The Basement: Chris Bledsoe | UFO Contact, Government Secrets and the CIA

Today I'm talking with Chris Bledsoe, a. North Carolina businessman who in 2007. was facing the end of everything. His. company had collapsed. He was dying from. Crohn's disease. And he went down to the. Capefir River with his teenage son and. three of his workers to fish. What. happened next changed his life. And. honestly, it's one of the most unusual. cases in modern UFO history. Chris and. all five witnesses experienced multiple. orbs, creatures with glowing red eyes, and a massive tic tac-shaped craft, and. four hours of missing time. Chris came.

home healed from his Crohn's disease. 4. hours of missing time, and he came back. healed. H meanwhile, I lose 4 hours on. Tik Tok and come back with Carp Finn. >> And here's where it gets interesting. Since 2007, senior officials from the. CIA, NASA, and even the Vatican have. been quietly investigating him. Former. CIA officer Jim Seivan wrote the foreign. to his book. A NASA engineer spent years. trying to debunk him and couldn't. >> Oh, NASA tried to debunk him, huh?

That's the tell human. When NASA tries. to debunk you, you're over the target. >> I agree. We're going to talk about the. encounter, the healing, the beings, and. the entity Chris calls the lady, a. divine feminine presence that's been. appearing to him since 2012. >> Yeah, at least she's bringing him. healing. Whenever a feminine shows up at. my door, she's usually bringing legal. documents. >> Okay, let's get back to work. This one. goes places you don't expect. I really. enjoy the conversation. Let's go down to. the basement.

>> Chris, thanks for coming today. >> Thank you for having me, AJ. >> I am so excited. >> It's my Me, too. It's my honor. Been a. big fan for a long time. >> Oh, don't say that. You don't have to. say that. I. >> have been. So, um, it, so if you know my show, and. I'm just going to recap this for the. audience, at the end of the Y files, I. do a segment debunking and analysis. I. don't do that here. This is about. telling the story and just kind of.

exploring your experiences. >> So, if you feel any push back, it's not. this isn't a gotcha show. This is we're. we're going to talk about your story. Um, I guess it all starts at the river. >> Yeah. >> What brought you to the river? >> Well, it actually started before the. river. Okay. And and let's back up to. about 2001. when the World Trade Center disaster. happened. At that time, I had been in.

business nearly 20 years and uh building. upwards of 100, 120 or 30 houses every. year and was one of the biggest builders. in the in in in our county and one in. the state. private company. And uh when when that disaster happened, being that my business is based in a. military town, Fort Bragg, the housing. sales just stopped suddenly. Nobody's. buying. And so here I am with uh $18.

million invested in property and the. interest rates had gone up to like 8%. And uh on borrowed money it was it was. costing me $100,000 a month. We fast forward and I was dealing with. Crohn's and that made it worse. It got. worse and worse and worse. And by the. time 2004 come along, I was in the. hospital having and I write about this. in my book. What happened there? Had a.

near-death experience from a doctor. poisoning me. I'd lost everything. Took. me 5 years to go through all the savings. I had and and liquidating all I could, but I paid the banks off and sold the. property, but I was left with nothing. So. the near death happened in ' 04. and uh early05 I was still recovering. By summer of06. I was just getting to where I could go.

back to work. Uh I was still sick with. Crohn's, right? And I just had this this. poisoning in the hospital by a doctor. >> And I'd love to get into that at some. point maybe later today because you've. had two NDEs. >> Yeah. one from a gunshot when I was 10. >> and one from over medication not. checking my vital my liver and my blood. work right they just doctor just didn't. he he he failed to do it and it caused. me to go into toxic shot metal poisoning.

they call it. >> and so here I am now all this happened. sick I'm recovering. um I'm at I'm at the end of my rope I. had a million-dollar home four kids. living on the golf course for all these. years and now I'm in a mobile home. with uh B getting free lunch money from. school. How and how [clears throat]. debilitating that was and demeaning and. but that led me to the river.

>> What what led you to the river? What was. that decision? >> Um well it wasn't my decision but it was. I started back to work. uh just the. first job my dad convinced me to go out. and look after a big house that he was. contracted to build on the coast 2 hours. away. So I took a crew of men and had. them working there and we worked 4. months in ' 06 from October to December.

And when December comes along, um it was. right before Christmas, I didn't need to. go back. We had we were down to the last. 10% of of what they owed us. um doing a punch list. So on the on the. first day or 2nd of January, I sent the. crew back, told them to to do their work. and uh bring me a check back. And that's. exactly what they did on January the 8th. of that day. They called me, "Hey boss, we got your job done. We'd like to.

celebrate. We don't have to drive out of. town for anymore. It' been 4 months. they've been going in two hours away.". And so. I I was at home, my wife was at home, she was off with the rest of the kids, but it was Chris Junior and I there. And. uh so we agreed to go fishing in the. middle of the day in January. And it was. uh about 2:30 when we got to the river. And of course, I was very um I was.

having a hard time mentally, you know, uh depressed and struggling about. And. so I didn't fish. I had my son there. He's 17 then. These three grown men, they were crew leaders. They were doing. roofing and framing and that people that. worked with our family for my dad for. years and years. And so I thought it'd be nice to get. Chris Junior down out the house. And um. so we get to the river 2:30 and I left. walking. I told him once I got him set.

up and I left walking um about 3:30 or. 4. Why did you lay off? >> Well, I was wanting to get away and. think, you know, I wasn't in deficient. I just wanted to make sure they were in. their they were I'm a manager, right? So, I managed to cruise them in. And I. felt like they were they were sitting on. the bank with a little stick with forks. and their poles. Yeah. So, they were all. set up. >> They're good. >> Yeah, they're good. I'm going to go find. I'm going to go talk to whoever's up. there. >> Okay. So, you had the intention?

>> Yes. >> Okay. >> Yes. So I left walking and I went. Imagine you go to the dead end of a a. culde-sac. Drive down in the woods and. it dead ends into a round grassy area. about a acre. Well, I walked on in the. culdeac. to the back of it looking for deer. Really not looking for anything but away. time right from me. So I'm sitting. beside a big tree and it starts getting. dark in the woods a lot earlier than out.

in the open. And so. I think it was 4:45 I come walking out. of the woods and walked up to where they. were fishing and um I said, "You guys. want to go home or you want to fish some. more?" And they're like, "We just got. here. We want to do some more." I said, "Well, it's going to get cold tonight. Better get a fire going." So we. everybody stopped fishing and all four. of us um. there were five of us. It was me, Chris. Junior, and three guys. There were five. all five of us went around the culdeac.

picking up dead wood dead falling had a. huge pile of wood standing uh sitting. beside the bank and a little fire going. So about 10 after 5 that was the fire. was going and I said. you know it's going to be dark soon. I'm. going to walk up to the field the way we. came in not the end of the cot. I went. walked a/4 mile up to the field. and it's up it's uphill. It's 100 foot. of elevation from the riverbank where.

we're fishing to this cornfield. It's. flat field. There's a gate and I'll. share the photos of where the gate where. I was standing. And um just before I got. to the top of that hill. um and it's about 15 or 20 minutes after. 5 now, so it's not dark yet, you know. It probably didn't get fully dark until. this the the sun was setting behind the. trees. When I got up there,

I walked up that hill and when I got. near the top, I could see the trees on. the far side. I couldn't see the field. cuz it's up here, but I could see what I. thought was the top of the sun sticking. up right above the hill up there. And I. look down cuz it was muddy and I'm. walking. And I'd look up and I'd walk. another step. And when I got up to the. top of that hill where I could see, I. said, "Dang, that don't look like the. sun. That's really weird." It was it was.

fire going around this thing. So I I. looked down, took two more steps, and. when I did, I could see a wider per. peripheral because, you know, I got. trees on either side, and the higher up. I get, the more my views spread. There was another one sitting right. beside it that I didn't see to start. with. So now I've got two huge balls of. fire. >> How far away are they? >> They were probably 300 yd. >> Okay. A good ways away. >> 200 feet in the air setting right above. the trees and and just this flame going.

around them and these little tips of. fire was shooting off these things. So I. immediately froze. I was I'm a. commercial rated pilot. I knew what I. was looking at wasn't anything from us. at all. And I'd never really studied. UFOs. I was dealing with poor children. and sickness, right? And uh so it scared me and I squatted. down, actually got down on my stomach. and I would raise my head up and look.

above the hill cuz I've still got some. more hill in front of me and I'd look at. it and I' I was just mesmerized. But I. started getting worried. Oh, my son's. down the hill. I need to get back down. there. Tell him what I'm looking at. And the minute I decided to run, I had it in my thoughts, I'm going to. run. So I I turned my body and I'm. looking back behind me at it, you know, and I stood up to run. And the minute I. stood up to run, right up here above me,

another one appeared and shot down right. in front of me. And at that moment, AJ, I knew that it knew what I was thinking. I knew that it saw me. And I knew I felt. like a like I was a I was captured. I. was a a lab rat. I I I didn't know what. to think. It was just overwhelming. knowing that this thing I was on its. radar. That's when it all changed. When. it came at me, >> you're a hunter and now you're on the.

other side of it. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's a good. explanation. >> And so you knew you knew it was watching. you. Was that an was that like an animal. instinct or did you hear it, feel it? >> I didn't know it was watching me. The. two I was looking at. I thought I was, you know, hiding from this thing, but I. was thinking, I got to run. Oh my god, what am I looking at? So, I'm thinking. and the minute I go to run, this other. one appeared. And I knew immediately. that it knew that I was going to run and.

it wanted and it knew and it it it was. connected to my thoughts and I couldn't. get away. was the first thing I I knew it. I mean, but luckily. uh they wiped my memory. So, I had that. moment of fear and then all of a sudden, oh my god. And then the lights went out. >> just just everything just. >> went out. >> went out dark. And so the next thing I.

realize I'm walking up to the fire. I. don't remember leaving at the top of the. hill. I don't remember any of that. I. just remember the last 50 or so feet. going up to the fire. So, I'm walking in. the dark. They can't see me coming. And. these three guys are standing at the. campfire. There no fishing no longer. They're standing there and the fires. burnt down to very little fire. And I. left. It was pretty good size fire. And. um that scared them bad when I snuck up. on them.

>> And I'm like, "God, you won't believe. what I just saw.". They're like, "Where have you been?" I. said, "I was just up at the hill. I. haven't been gone but 20 minutes." And. they're like, "No, you've been gone all. night.". And we've been looking for you all. night. >> I said, "Well, where's Chris Junior? He. wasn't there." And so, uh, they said, "Well, he went back to Culac where you. went earlier today looking for you while. we took your truck and drove up and down. the road." And one guy stayed at the.

fire the whole time. And so I panicked. where my son's down in that forest and. it goes for 50 miles to Wilmington and. very little to nothing in there. So I. could I was just dreaming he was lost, you know. And then. >> so I panicked and took off running, ran. to the back of the culdeac where I'd. gone in that day and he knew where I'd. gone cuz he'd watching me all the time. Um. and I cried out to him. I started.

shouting for him and nothing. Couldn't. hear anything. So I started making my. way into the forest and I got about 10. ft in there and he I heard him getting. up off the ground. He was laying on his. stomach underneath these real thick. shrubs and he come up and he was uh in. tears and he's like, "Oh my god, daddy, why'd you leave me?". And and I said, "I didn't leave you, son. I just walked up to the field. I've. been gone 20 minutes." He said, "No, you've been gone all night. We've been. looking. So, I'm I'm like, "Oh my god,

what's happening? [clears throat]. >> What's happened?". >> But, you know, I wasn't scared anymore. >> You weren't? >> Not at all. From that point forward, it. was like amusement. My son is freaked. out. He's in shock. These three guys are. in shock or they're they're terrified, right? So, I drag him back to the fire. They hadn't displayed that yet, but. shortly they will. So, I took Junior. back to the fire where they were. standing. And they're very quiet cuz I.

was telling them about this ball of. light I saw at the top of the hill. And. Chris Junior's talking about this. creature that he had seen coming from. a/4 mile away. The the road at the end. of the culdeac is a/4 mile and then it. makes a left up. which is only an eighth of a mile. Right? So he sees this light come out in. the road way down at the end. A red. glowing light. He thought it was a camera. I mean a a.

flashlight cuz in the military they use. a lot of these red lenses on their. flashlights, right? So and he has guns. and infrareds. That's what he thought it. was. And there were two of them. They. went across the road about 3 ft off the. ground and then they came back out on. the road and they started towards him. and he's standing back calling for me. The closer they got, the more afraid he. got. >> Can he see what they are at this? >> Yeah. Well, no. He sees these two. lights, >> two red balls of light about big coming.

towards him. >> So, he crawls under these bushes trying. to get away just cuz he's afraid. Couldn't go back to the fire cuz now. it's between him and the fire. Mhm. >> All right. So, he's hiding and they get. within 15 20 ft of him and there are. these two little uh creatures that were. uh glowing. They could turn they it's. like a riostat. They could turn. themselves up and glow brighter or they. could turn themselves down to where they.

looked almost translucent. And in a dark. night, they look just like almost black. figures there but with red eyes. If it. was their eyes that were red, that's. what he was seeing. Is it like a. humanoid shape? >> Yeah, they look like humans. >> like. >> in a way. I I have a photo a picture I. drew painted I'll share with you so you. can I painted this in 2009. And so. anyhow, [sighs and gasps]. I don't know what to think. My son's.

crying. He's upset. He's seen creatures. He's complaining that I left him, abandoned him. I drag him back to the. fire. They're freaked out. These guys. are grown men, right? Tough country boys. that don't get afraid in the woods. So. now they're they're very quiet. Junior's talking about the creatures. I'm talking about the light. And all of. a sudden, one of the guys says, "Look.". And we all look up and there's. between eight and nine, maybe 10 stars.

bright. This is Venus that just appeared. above us. They just like come on and. then they just started flying around and. doing it's almost like somebody. choreographed it. >> and they just appear out of the sky just. materialized. >> Yeah. Just materialized above us. They. were way up there. >> They were bright as Venus each one and. they were playing. They were flying out. and they'd come back together and we. were watching this and all of a sudden. here comes three down and they land on.

the other side of the river in front of. us and the river is only 60 or 70 yards. wide. It's not a big one, right? So here. they are on the other side of the river. in the woods and pandemonium set in. These guys freaked out. I'm not afraid. I'm mesmerized at whatever they did to. me. I was no longer afraid. I'd be angry. at you cuz you're so peaceful. >> Yeah. [laughter]. And they were all they were angry at me. They were panicked. >> So we ran and jumped in the truck.

There's three men in the back seat and. Chris and I in the front of a Ford. four-door Ford pickup. >> They didn't let you drive. I hope. >> I was driving. [laughter] You just was. your arm out with the radio on there. screaming at you. >> Well, I'm starting up the path, right? >> Mhm. >> Out of there. And this this road is. muddy. Real muddy. And the bushes were. like scrubbing the mirrors as we went. down through there. And they're. screaming every breath, "Go, go, go.". And Chris Junior's just want to get. home, Dad. I want to get home.

One of them told me, told Muon when we. reported it, that they had witnessed. this red ball of light come out of the. woods and come following the truck as we. were driving up out of there. So, undoubtedly, they were still there. They'd never left. They just went. invisible. >> Right. So when we got up to the top of. the hill to where I had my experience, we went up that hill so fast it almost. went airborne when I went over. It was a. real steep, you know, like a incline.

there. And there in front of us was the. same two red balls of fire and the same. exact spot that moved. This is 4 hours. later, right? The third one that. appeared and frightened me. is no longer a ball of fire, but a tic. tac. It's a glowing white egg. >> While you're still in the truck. >> Yeah. It's in the road in front of us. The one that came over and said, "I see. you.". >> Mhm. >> That's the one that took me. Now it's an.

egg in the road. It's not red anymore. It's glowing white. It's 45, 50 foot. long. And it's like a football or an. egg. >> Can you see that? It's a structure that. it's a craft or is it just light? >> It was all light. >> Just light. >> And there was light was doing this. It's. like sparkles of light going around. It. almost look like spikes coming out of. it. And this thing just pivots. It's. only 5 ft off the ground, 150 yards from. us in the road. Pivots, starts towards.

us. And as it gets closer, it starts. rising up. But right over my sunroof. I. opened the sunroof and watched it. through it. and all the guys were. looking out and it was probably 100 ft. in the air, totally silent. And then it. pivoted and shot off like out of a. canyon to the north. I hit the gas and. we took off. and there become a fight between the. guys. Who gets to go home first? >> Are are the are the fire orbs still with. you at that point? >> There was just balls of I haven't seen.

the fire ones now. We left them. They. were still sitting there. >> Okay. >> So, we left because this thing's coming. out. It had a path block. We couldn't go. because the road was blocked. But once. it went over us, it was it was beating. on my seat screaming. I want to see my. wife before before us over. We thought. the world was coming to an end that we. were being invaded. I didn't understand. what was happening. Um, you know, it did. something to me. Here's an important thing.

We left from that point. uh racing. Only a mile and a half down the street. is where I was shot when I was 10 years. old, right? Or maybe mile and 3/4. Well, at a mile and a half is where my first. wife was killed. And I found her there. when I was just a young 21year-old, 20. yearear-old guy. I'd married. this uh sweetheart that I'd had for four.

or five years. And on the 11th month and. 28th day of our marriage, 2 days before. our 1year anniversary, I'd been out of. town fishing, hunting, uh not fishing, hunting, my dad and I. and some his hunting club and we' taken. boats down on the coast and and were um. running dogs on islands, running chasing. deer on islands, right? I grew up doing. that. [sighs]. And so [gasps].

I knew that she was going to be at this. party out in the country. Bunch of. friends since we were young, we'd always. had a cornfield. They'd go hang out. instead of trouble, right? And we went. to bars and all that. We. >> found trouble somewhere. >> Yeah. We were out in the country and and. and the law found out about it. They'd. come and raid us every now and then, catch young kids drinking beer and. stuff. But so that's we were at a party. I came in at 9:00 and I took off to the.

party. And um I write about this in. detail in my book. What why I left. uh her one of her old boyfriends was all. snuggled up with her when I got there. >> And it it this I turned around and I. left. I spoke to him and said, "I'm. going home." So I started home. went two. miles down the road and. um turned around to go back to meet her. because I I'm like I'm not let this guy.

take what's mine. I was just mad, right? I turned around to go back. >> and on the way back and this very sharp. curb there was a a car laying on its. side was laying and I could see the. bottom side of it and I hit the brakes. and jumped out of the car. Didn't know. who it was. It was in the front yard of. someone's home that had rolled up, went. through the curb and rolled end over end. up in these people's yard. I jumped out. I ran up to the car,

looked in, nobody. Then still didn't. know what car it was, whose it was. It. was dark and it's laying on its side. So, as I'm looking in the car, the front. door of the house opens. The tires are. still turning on the car and the motor. is still running. Okay. >> Laying on it side. I ran to the door. Uh they came out and. they looked out. They had heard it. And. I said, "You better call the ambulance. uh rescue. Somebody's probably hurt. I. can't find who who it was." So I left.

and started back to the road. And that's. where I tripped over her laying in the. shade. >> This is your first wife, Dana? >> Yeah. Yeah. She was laying in the shade. of the pump house, water pump. But that night when we left the river, I. blamed myself for that all those years. like I could have that I was part of it. and uh but I wasn't you know. >> you forgiven yourself at this point. >> I couldn't. >> You couldn't. >> Yeah. And but that night when we left.

the river, everybody's freaking out, scared. I'm in La La Land for what had. just happened. I don't know. I'm not. afraid. It's the biggest thing I. remember. So, we get to that mile and a. half down from where we were. We go. through that curb. There's this big. huge thing hovering right over where she. was killed. >> Mhm. >> And I slow down and I'm trying to stop. And they're beating on my seat. Don't. stop. And I'm like, I just want to see. I want to see. And they're like having. nothing to do with it. And it spoke to.

me. It just put this vision in my head. and it said, you have to forgive. yourself. She's fine. don't worry about. this any longer. And so that was the. first time in 25 years that I had a bit. of peace over that. So all that together. over the next couple of years is what. made me understand this thing was so. much bigger than some alien coming from. the pleades to right aggravate me. Yeah.

So, but anyhow, not to drag that holy van out but too. long, we we dropped the guys off. Chris. Junior and I head home. He didn't want. to go back that way. Was going back. towards the house was that way. Shortcut. because we'd had to drive back under. that power line and where this thing. was. So, we took the long way around. Got home. It was probably 11:30 and uh. Christopher ran through the house.

locking everything, locking the He'd. opened the bathroom door with no window. in it, turned the light on and locked. the door. He had every door locked, all. the windows shut, all the flood lights. on. I'm in my room trying to see on TV, you. know, if the military is coming. Uh we. just know there's an invasion, right? cuz it wasn't one or it was probably 15. in total that we were seeing that night. Nine or 10 at once and then others up on. the hill. No, >> I've heard Chris Jr. talk recently and.

he still struggles with the story. >> Yeah, he does. Yeah. Yeah. It was. traumatic. Um you can never get over those things, but you know, he's 36 now and he has a. baby on the way. He has two children and. one coming and um he's very happy and uh. he understands it now a whole lot more. He ran from it for a long time and it. weren't all his fault. It was pressure. from the community and the church that.

caused a whole lot of problem for us. >> Well, when you got home from the. experience, um your wife Ivon wasn't wasn't there. yet. >> No, she was off with her mother. staying. with her mom. Uh they were doing. something for a couple of days. And so. we're home. We're home now. The house is. locked down. Junior comes in my room. where I met and he's like, "Have you. seen anything?" I'm like, "No, this is. like total normal. I don't know what's. happening.". >> Are you still peaceful? >> Yeah, I am. Okay. But he's not. He's.

He's in shock. Sure. >> And um suddenly my dad lived next door. We lived out in the country on uh our. houses beside one another. and and he. had a dog kennels there where he'd. raised hunting dogs all his life before. I was born he had dogs he'd have 30 or. 40 all the time and one time he had 104. but he had 15 hounds then and they were. all of a sudden they started barking all. of them and hounds barked very loud big.

mouthy deep voice and I knew that what. they were saying was they were scared. they were doing what I'd call a boo. bark. You know, they were woo woo woo. woo. You hear dogs do that. They they. hear or see something, but they don't. know what it is. >> I've seen that with bear hunting. They a. bear come out on a dog. The scent along. will put them in panic. >> Is that what you thought it was? A bear? >> It was a bear or a deer or something.

So, all the dogs are barking. Then I. thought maybe somebody's breaking in. dad's shop. first thought that was. somebody's breaking in the shop because. the dog kennels next to his garage. He and I share this big 40 foot garage. the we had boats and fishing gear and. tools and [sighs and gasps]. so I'm imagining the dogs seeing. somebody going in that shop and um I. said Christopher he's freaked out now. he's scared these dogs are barking and. I'm going outside I'm going to see who's.

breaking in that shop and he didn't want. any part of that. He's like, "Please. don't go out there, daddy. Please. don't." I'm like, "Look, we won't take a. flashlight. We got Rosie here. She's 110. lb Chesapeake. She'll keep anything away. from us. Um, we'll just sneak down there. and see who we see. Maybe scare them. away.". And um so I opened the door. He had me. by the back of the shirt and he never. turn me loose. We walked across the yard. into the pathway to the dog kennel. Was.

down in the woods behind the house. We. walk in there and I look and they're all. looking out the back of the kennel. They're not looking toward the garage. They're looking in the forest. >> Uh-oh. >> Behind it. So immediately I thought. maybe it's a bear, >> right? >> Because there were barking every breath. facing into the forest, all 15. Plus my. Chesapeake, she's frozen. Her hair is. standing up and she's pointing in the. bushes. So I'm whispering to Chris. I. said, "I'm going to send her in on.

whoever's in there or whatever. Well, let's just run back out to the back of. the property. We'll make a run for it. We'll go back and hide behind this big. oak tree and see what she pushes out of. there." Typical hunting. That's what we. hunted doing that. Try to cut the dogs. off, put them in and get in front of. them and see what comes out. >> They're trained to do this. >> Yeah. And so I bumped her on the rear. and she took off immediately. So we took. off running. We didn't have no time. You. got to run hard to get down this path.

and back to the far yard and to the. back. And I felt Christopher turn a loose when. I I made a left turn and and the grass. was getting frosty and I slipped and he. turned loose and I thought, well, I just. outrun him. So, I ran hard as I can. I. ran up to this tree and stopped myself. I ran up to it in a full run and and I'm. trying to be quiet, but I'm breathing, you know, heavy breath and I'm trying to. calm my breath and I'm against the tree.

and the dog's coming straight at me. You. very loud, you know, it's quiet at night. and this thing you hear it coming. through the forest is real loud. So I. turned to look back to see if. Christopher was coming. And this all. happened so quick. And when I looked. back, he was gone. He didn't he didn't. come. He took he couldn't stand anymore. So he ran to the house. When he turned. loose, he took a right. I took a left. Right. >> But when I did, AJ, there standing behind me about arms.

length was this little figure. Yay. Tall, which I painted it and it was. glowing white about 3T, 3 and 1/2 ft. >> Three feet. Uh, no more than three. probably. And it had it was glowing. white. And it had uh what looked like a. triangle on its chest, a dark area that. was triangle shaped. And it had red. glowing eyes about this big around. And. they were round, perfectly round glowing.

eyes. And it scared me. Scared me bad. when I saw it. I'm, "Oh my god." So I. backed myself up to the tree to try to. get away from it. But I got a tree, you. know, I'm looking at it. So I turn and. face it and I dropped my hands and I. said, "I surrender.". And. the dog's coming. Still coming. >> Rosie's barking. >> She's barking every breath. Coming very. close. >> So she sees these. >> Well, she's Yeah, she senses it. >> Okay. >> Um I think the energy dogs have a way of.

seeing things we can't. Right. >> I agree. >> So it it is definitely the dogs coming. This all happened very quick. I'm facing. this 3-foot thing that's glowing. I'm. panicked that I'm going to die. I. thought it was going to kill me. And I. said, um, I said, I I surrender. I don't. mean you any harm. And it said, you. don't understand. We're here to help. you, not hurt you. That's exactly what. it said. And then the dog comes out of.

the bushes and this thing vanishes right. in front of me. Just immediately. vanished. >> Did it speak or you heard this in your. mind? I heard it in my mind loud. Sounded like a man's voice. Deep, thunderous, loud. That's one of the few. times I ever heard audible voice. You. know, you don't hear voices, but I heard. that one plain. >> I heard when the lady came in 2012, this. audible voice. >> Yeah, I would definitely arise just like. that. >> And so it vanishes. And when Mufund did.

their investigation, that whole tree. started decaying and dying and rotted. down. This they found some kind of. something on it that radiated it and. killed it. That's what they said. Um, so. I go back to the house. thinking, how I'm going to tell. Christopher about this, right? I better. not say anything. >> Good call. >> Yeah. And so I made it to the house and. now I'm panicked. I was a smoker then. I.

had to have a cigarette. I got to have a. cigarette. I'm smoking, you know. >> That's why you could not run this thing. >> I know, right? Right. [laughter]. And so I'm trying to to find a cigarette. and and and Chris is like, "You can't go. outside. You can't go outside to smoke.". So I go over to my back of my in my sun. room and put my feet knees on the couch. and reach over behind it and started. raising the window up, right? The. blinds. I didn't even get the wind up. When I raised the blinds, the flood. lights on that corner was illuminating.

this 7 foot tall being that was walking. towards me, towards the house. I could. see it in the flood light 20 ft away. That scared me when I. >> What did that look like? >> Like the being on the crabwood crop. circle. >> Okay. So, this is also a humanoid. >> Yeah. Very tall, skinny thing. And it. was uh it was scary looking. So I I. grabbed Junior by the arm and didn't. tell him. I said, "Uh, we don't want to.

stay here tonight. We're going to go. somewhere else." So we went four or five. miles away and this cuz midnight 1:00. where we going to go, right? So we went. down to a big hayfield, parked in the. middle where I could see in every. direction until the sun come up. I'm. having to manage my child. He's he's. panicking. Have you ever heard of the. incident at Devil's Den? >> I've heard of Devil's Den. Yeah, >> it's almost the same creatures. >> Really? >> It's small creatures with red eyes and.

and a very large being with them. >> Wow. I never knew that. [clears throat]. >> And they're they're walking around the. forest and they're picking up different. objects and surveying them. And. >> that's what they were doing with Chris. He was sitting there pinned down out of. the bushes and they were 20 ft from him, two of them. And one was on its knees. picking up bottles and cans and sticks. and it would look at him and put them on. the ground while the other one was. staring at him the whole time. And he. said that he couldn't scream. He. couldn't yell. He felt frozen. The when.

it looked at him, he had absolutely no. control over his self. He couldn't talk. He couldn't move. And he felt a lot of. trauma there. >> At Devil's Den, that large creature had. a triangle on its chest. >> Get the heck out. Mhm. I had never heard. that. >> It shows up in all these stories. The. triangle. >> I never heard that. >> Yeah. >> Makes sense why NASA come calling. I. said, "We'd like to talk about that. little being with the triangle on his. chest.". >> Well, where are we um chronologically at.

this point? So, you're at uh you're with. Junior. Your wife your wife is back yet. >> She comes back 2 days later. Okay. >> So, this is on a Tuesday night, I think. >> Okay. by the end of the week, Thursday. or Friday, she comes home with the other. kids and I had the greatest story to. tell and um and it was scaring my wife. because you know she being raised in the. Pentecostal Holiness Church and her. family is is they're the part of the.

they're part of the whole movement. They. brought it to North Carolina. They're. her grandmas and and ancestors. So they. were very big in the conference. So I. had that whole power. uh on my head there. it got but the first night that was the. first night the end of the first night. >> when you were telling her the story were. you telling it from that position of. peace or because I can't see her.

reacting positively? >> Well I was telling her the story and it. was couldn't get a word in cuz Chris Jun. was telling it too. Right. >> Right. and um she didn't want to believe. it. And then when the other guys came a. couple days later, they came back to the. house to to bring back my fishing poles. cuz we left everything on the river. Sure. We left coolers and all sitting. right there, sticks still with rods in. them. And um so she questioned them and.

immediately. >> the church condemned it as the devil. >> How did how did the church find out? Well, that's my wife's family is the. church. My mom and my family, they're. all big in the church and we live in the. Bible belt, right? >> Sure. >> So, the whole community. >> Did she tell them because she was. worried? >> Well, she was worried how to handle this. with the children because the children. were frightened. >> Sure. >> My 10-year-old daughter,

um, she thought I was interrupting their. school. They It just disrupted. everything. to school, their sleep, and I was a bit I'd have to say my wife. is a very I love her. We've been. together 43 years, and I couldn't live. without her, right? She she's the calm. person. She's the mother, right? And. she's worried about school in the. morning. And I'm like Dustin Hoffman all. of a sudden. [laughter]. >> You're the mashed potatoes. >> Yeah, I was just like that. And I still.

am. I mean, I came home. and she said, "I looked wild in the. eyes." I was just telling us, "Oh my. god, you won't believe what happened.". And and when she calls um her family and. my family and all that, then it turns. into it was a demonic experience. You're. playing with the devil cuz the Christian. church believes, you know, not the. Catholics. No, no, not. >> with the Protestants, they preach is the. devil, not knowing,

it's just part of their any light you. see, if it's not of God, it's got to be. evil. >> How did you know it wasn't? >> Cuz it healed me. And it told me I'm. here to help you, not hurt you. >> Okay. >> But I struggled with what all that Who. was it? Was it an alien? It didn't. didn't act like what an alien it it knew. my prayer. It heard me. So I started. researching the Bible and I learned that. these chariots of fire.

Immediately it started making sense. So. I furthered my research into meeting Dr. Dian Pasula and Dr. George Zervos and a. whole lot of other religious scholars. and people that know this. and we. started digging into the text and. researching and have still researching. >> What did you find in your research of. the Bible that tracks with this story? >> Well, this is something. uh Diana gave me the the information.

>> Okay. >> And she said, "I'm going to give you. this. I can't talk about it, but I'm. going let you I'm going to tell you. this. I want you to pay attention to. what I'm going to tell you." And that is. in the Bible. Throughout the Bible, Mark, Matthew, Luke, Revelations, and even in Exodus, there there is something called the. clouds of heaven. This will be in my. next book, by the way. But the clouds of. heaven. I'm like, "What is that, Diana?". And she said, "Well, these clouds, some.

of them are talking, some of them are. shiny, some of them are feeding people, some of them are protecting people." For. example, Exodus, it says, "And an angel. of the Lord, went before the children of. Israel for 38 years in a pillar of a. cloud." Pillar meaning pylon or s. cylinder, right? Wherever that thing. went for 38 years, they camped. underneath it. It fed them mana in the.

morning and it gave them uh shade by the. day and warmth and light at night for 38. years. Right? Matthew uh 26, Matthew 24. talks about Jesus. When I come back, I'm. coming in the clouds of heaven or on the. clouds of heaven. I'm going come back. the way I left from here. and and he. left. It says he left. He was taken up. in a cloud. So Diana educated me on this.

very carefully. and there is just tons of evidence. Do. you know um Daniel 10. >> Oh um. talks about the the. he's made of topaz. He's made of light. >> Yeah. >> If that's the right book. Well, that. that uh Daniel chapter 10 talks about. his angelic vision, what he saw. Daniel. saw an angel. Daniel chapter 10 talks.

about and there stood before him this. this angel that was glowing and it was. so shiny. It looked like topaz and it. had red eyes like fire. >> Like torches. >> Yeah. Yeah. Like fire. Torches. Yeah. And in Ezekiel 40, he talks about. meeting a messenger made of shiny bronze. who shows them this temple of the. future. >> Yeah. Crazy, huh? >> And then in Enoch 19, Archangel Uriel.

takes him up above the clouds and shows. him. >> the origins of the wind and and the. earth and takes him over Egypt and all. these places. And I thought you had an. experience kind of like that, didn't. you? >> That's where they took me. So I I didn't. know what happened during those four. hours. Yeah. What happened? I had no. clue. But after Dr. Okonnell came from. Harvard and he started working on me, he.

said, "You'll remember it all over. time.". >> He was a student of Dr. Mack. No. >> Yep. John Mack. He trained under Mac. So, John Mack for folks listening um was. an expert psych psychiatrist. award-winning at Harvard who specialized. in abduction and experiences. >> Yeah. He actually started all this. research. He did. >> Well, Dr. Michael Oonnell was a student. of his and got his degrees there. and um. he he started helping me um.

with hypnosis to get rid of this. headache that I had. Every time I tried. to think about what happened, I'd get. this massive headache and I would. eventually pass out. did it numerous. times in front of investigators. My wife. was would tell you, you keep asking him. questions, he's not gonna he's going to. pass out on you because it it was such a. block in there. It would become this. pressure and it would get so painful. that I would just go I'd black out. He. removed that to where I could think.

about it and it wasn't painful anymore. And he said, "If you learned everything. overnight, it would probably cause you. to melt down. So, we're going to program. your subconscious to reveal everything. over time. And that's what he did. >> So, immediately. u thing I started dreaming all kinds of. weird dreams and I would start yelling. and crying in my sleep and all this and. it started scaring my wife and the kids.

I go to bed early cuz I get up early. Well, they their nights, right? They'd. come sneaking in the room cuz they hear. me and record me in my sleep talking and. stuff. >> What were you saying? >> I was saying all kinds of things. In. fact, one crazy thing I was saying is. that. they took me to Egypt. It was like a a. virtual tour. Um being inside a bubble, something clear, round. I could touch. the walls, but I couldn't see it. And I.

was looking at this the Spinx and the. pyramids and Hatheror's temple and all. these obelisks and stuff and they were. narrating what I was seeing. >> I started first getting images, not the. information. >> Were they narrating like a tour guide in. the museum? >> Yep. Y. >> So there wasn't a spe like a message. was just this is Hatherther's Temple. This is. >> Yeah. Well, I didn't know what it was. I. just saw it. Right. >> Right. And so that.

that caused me to get into deep research. into. Egypt and I met Dr. Robert Gilbert that. ran the vesica institute. He's you know. he was um sacred geometry is what he. taught. Sadly he passed away last year. but he made a lot of sense to to what I. was seeing. And so it's been a long. journey trying to figure it out. I don't. have the answers like everybody thinks.

It's more the more I learn the more I. learn. I don't know. Right. It's just a. big It's this is so big. We can't. imagine what is around us. And. but they took me up over the Midwest. I. saw. what I was crying in fear about. My wife. recorded one particular thing was I I. was saying in my sleep that they were. showing me Bigfoot on Mars of all. things. >> Oh, come on.

>> I'm not joking. I I saw it in a in a. dream or asleep. I was asleep that she. recorded that, but I remember seeing it. in the dream, you know, landing in this. bubble and here comes walking up these. creatures that were furry looking. So, I'm she's asking me questions and I'm. answering in my sleep. But um. it all began to to to to. center around. the the scary thing was and this is what.

got um the powers that be interested. even more is that I saw the sun start to. grow in size in the sky. Before you get. to that, is this before what you call in. your book your 5 years of darkness? >> This was be this was in the 5 years of. darkness. >> Can you can you tell me a little bit. about how you went from this experience. where you you're feeling peaceful and. then now 5 years of dark that's a lot of.

darkness. What happened? >> Well, why I call it that is uh I came. home with a story. that I'm Dustin Hoffman. They're looking. at me like, "Look, he's crazy. He's lost. it." You know, he he's because I'm. saying all this weird stuff, right? And. I'm really like Dustin Hoffman. I'm. obsessed with with it bad and I couldn't. control it. And um. that turned into a backfire cuz the more.

I talked about it, the worse it got. And. it got so bad that I come home one day. and there's uh the sheriff pulls up in. the yard and these social workers. And. it got so bad that at school at. elementary schools and high schools, they were questioning my kids cuz I was. on TV now and made a DVD in 2008, you. know, Muon did that and promised to.

vindicate me and they made it worse by. far. >> That was a hit job. Yeah, it was a job. >> And so now I've got to school. questioning my kids. Next thing I know, social services is at my house trying to. take me out of the house from my family. Oh, this is the darkness. For 5 years, this went on. Just constant. >> This it might be too personal a. question, but is your wife on your side. at this point? >> Yeah, she's on my side, but it's out of. control now, right? everybody. She's.

just trying to be a mom and and live her. normal life and and raise her four kids, right? And um. >> are you still welcome in church? >> Well, yeah. No. Um they told me if I I. had to completely stop talking about. this if I ever wanted to be involved in. the church anymore. And I'm like, "Sorry, I am having church." To me, it. is church. It's not evil. It's not the devil. It's.

something much greater and I aimed to to. pursue that. >> Okay. >> So, yeah, they kind of gave me that. ultimatum there. Although, I've been a. couple of times during Easter or. Mother's Day, you know, that I'll go. with the wife. But. well, I want us to take a break in just. a minute, but can you give us before we. go to break that final scene, that final. moment. in 5 years of darkness where you went.

out. >> Okay. Yeah. That's when it all changed. >> Yeah. And then when we come back, we can. get into. >> Okay. Good. So 5 years of fighting, social services fighting, the. communities ridiculed so bad. It was so. bad I wouldn't go to the grocery store. anymore. I'd hold my head down. And here. I'm working with NASA, right? I've got. NASA scientists at my house and I'm down. at Cape Canaveral and all these places. Well, I ain't got to Cape Canaveral yet,

but I'm with NASA. It was a NASA scientist Al Papa went to. my mom and dad's house and said, "You. need to listen to your son. He's not. lying.". >> Yeah. Don't worry, gang. We're going to. get into all that in a moment. So, uh, at the end of 5 years, it was Easter. of 2012. I was so beat down that Richard Drifus. in me had gone into hiding now and.

shame. The zeal that I had hadn't gone. away, but the wall I was hitting is now. affecting my kids because my kids are. coming home crying. >> Sure. They're being made fun of in. school, picked on in the hallways and. called out in class by teachers and. children. So I got I went to bed that night at. 9:30. It was a Saturday night of 2012. before Easter. So that morning, Sunday. morning's Easter, right? I walked out about 9:00 and I looked up.

at the heavens and it it killed me to. say it because I was so deeply. moved by what happened and and the the. Richard Drifus to experience it and to. talk to it and to find more. This all I. wanted and I had to concede. I let the. community beat me down and then the. church and the family and I say extended. family. Our family's big in our town and. we've been there since the 1700s. So. there's two or 300 cousins that live.

around or relatives in that town. So I went out and I shouted at the. heavens, "Why did you do this to me? Now. I've ruined my children's lives. I was. sick. Thank you for healing me. I lost. everything. Now I have nothing. It's. worse. I I can't even get a job now. Nobody will hire me." And I put in for. several jobs. I needed work. I couldn't. get any work. Not even family members. would hire me. People that work for me.

It got that bad. So I shouted at God and. I said, "I quit. I'll never talk about. this again to save my children and. what's left there." And I went to bed at. 9:30 at um 3:00 in the morning. And I. know it was three because when I heard. this voice, I heard it. It was so loud. it woke me up out of a dead sleep. My. clock, my alarm clock on the counter. Back then we had the digital ones. Now. you don't have those anymore. It said.

3:00 a.m. So I heard it and I stood up and it was. set up in the bed and I could see. movement just flare just just not very. clear, but I could see movement at the. bed in my room. >> Let's stop there. Let's take a break. here. It's a good spot for a break. >> Good. >> Uh we'll be right back. It's Easter 2012. and your shout, "I'm done. I don't want. any more to do with this. You ruined my. life. You wake up at 3:00 a.m." And this.

voice, >> okay, that said, "Arise." And it sounded. like the deepest manly voice I'd ever. heard. So I wake up, I see this movement at the. end of my bed, and I'm like, "Who said. that? I know you're in there." Those the. very words I said and I don't know what. happened um how they are able to control. our movements and what we do. Maybe they. can turn time off. I don't know. But I.

got up fully dressed and I was in my. underclo right now. I'm in full blue. jeans, socks, coat, and I'm heading. outside. So I walk behind these shadowy figures. following them. >> You're not afraid? >> No, I haven't been afraid since. [laughter]. >> Okay. >> Ever since what happened to me, I lost. all fear. >> Okay. Yeah. Uh I invite it, you know, and it say it's not here to hurt. And I. I knew that. I still know that. So, I'm.

following it and it leads me out to the. dog kennel right where Chris Junior and. I put Nelly in the forest and said, "Go. get them." They were standing in the. same spot. and. one of these shadowy figures hands me. something. It stops and it reaches out. and it hands me this object and I he. said, "This is yours. You must keep.". That's what he said. So I reached out. and I took it.

And when I did, it felt like holding a. hedgehog. You know how they had little. spikes on them? It felt prickly. So I. dropped it on the ground. >> No head or tail? >> No head, no tail. It just felt like a. bag of bones. Like a animal with no. legs. No head, no tail. >> You're describing a tribble from Star. Trek, >> maybe. Okay. So you you dropped it. >> I dropped it and it said, "No, you must. keep this." So I reached down. Pick it. up. It said, "You must keep this." So, I. reached down to pick it up and I'm. juggling the thing. I'm scared of it. I.

don't know what I got. It's dark, right? And I look up and they're gone. So, I'm. standing at the dog kennel. So, I reach. over. I thought I'm going to not let it. get away. I'm not going to lose it. I. open the dog kennel, set it in, close. the door. Are the dogs in there? >> Uh, no. They're gone. So, whatever this. is is not is safe from the. >> All the dogs are gone. >> Okay. >> This is 5 years later. And um. the minute I closed that door, I felt. this blast of air. This wind just hit me.

like physical wind. And it wasn't the. trees. It wasn't the wind like you. It. was concentrated. It was in front of me. It was almost like somebody blasted me. with a air blower. Caught me off balance and pushed me over. backwards. So, I fell to my back in the. leaves. right where all this happened with with. the dog and you know in 2007. Um, and.

as I'm falling backwards, I see what was. coming at me out of this black. blackness. It's like I'm looking at an. oak tree, but now I can't see it. I see. the tops of it. But this hole opens up. and out comes this bull like a huge cow. runs right over me and I could see. through it. It was translucent. I could. see the stars up in it. And it it was. just so quick and so powerful. It scared. me because of the force from the wind.

and this thing. I grew up on a farm, right? Working. My neighbor had a dairy. farm, had cows, we had pigs. But. the minute it went over, I land on my. back and I roll to my stomach. So now. I'm facing behind me and I'm getting up. to run all in the same time. And when I. do, there's no longer a cow there. standing, not standing about 6 to 8 ft. from me is floating.

This most beautiful woman from from. heaven. It's all I could say. She you. would think it's an angel or whatever it. is. And she looks at me and she leans. towards me and she looks at me and she. says, "You know why I'm here and I knew. what?" Because it was hard for me to to. fuss at God and and whatever it was. I. still. still try not to label this, right?

Because we really don't know. And uh. it's it's up to everybody to experience. it, figure it out on their own. Um but. she said, "You know why I'm here? You're. not going to quit.". She said, "This is your burden. You have. to bear." And she said, "If you'll. continue to do this, I promise you I'll. be with you and I will help you. And on. top of that, I'll allow you to fill our. presence and let you share us with.

others." Before I couldn't film it. That's one of the things that made me so. angry. I'd go out and there's a orb. hovering 100 ft over the house. Golden. orb. Pull my camera out and it says. memory card error. The camera don't work. anymore. Or every time it would appear. when I get the camera out, it disappear. It wouldn't let me film it. So, I'll never forget right after that I. started amassing a database and never. had any information. But now I've got a.

lot. And uh. >> Chris, you mentioned that you were shown. Hatherther's temple. I don't know if you. know this, but she's um she's the. goddess of maternity and motherhood. >> And according to ancient Egypt, she is. the sky. She came before everything. >> Sophia. >> Yes. Which I think is in Greek is wisdom. >> Yeah. Um, and Hatherther is depicted as. a cow in in ancient Egypt. And whenever.

she's depicted as a human, she always. has horns. >> Well, she told me that um cuz I you. know, I asked who she was and she said. she had planned. that she was from she was called Hathor. in Egypt. And that resonated with me. because first thing it showed me was. Egypt. Right. >> Right. And um I saw the faces of Hatthorp. carved in the temples and it's like cow.

ears and stuff. >> Yes. >> And so immediately uh that resonated. But she said she had many names in many. countries, many cultures from Diana to. Deer to Hara to the white buffalo calf. lady in the American Southwest. >> American Southwest, Hinduism, Buddhism, Lakshmi. Could. it be. Mary? Could it be? >> Well, I suppose it could be, but in my. research, I know that the word spirit,

the definition of a spirit, nobody. really understands that, but it's the. wind, right? And the word Holy Spirit is. the breath of God. Well, that most. impactful thing to me was not only. seeing and hearing, but the wind that. pushed me over the cow and over I saw. it, but the wind physically, it it frightened me. It hit me so hard. You know what I mean? So, here's this. force that came at me only to reveal.

itself as the most beautiful woman I had. ever seen. So, I went from extreme fear. to, "Oh my god, what am I looking at?". you know, >> and she's allowed me to share her. presence or or the orbs with everyone. >> Yes, she has. Um, every. all those men that were on that trip. with you, that fishing trip have all. come forward and corroborated. Your son. has said has happened. >> I think orb sightings in your presence.

are now numbering in the thousands. Hundreds of people have seen them. >> Thousands. >> Thousands of people. Yeah, I've had a. thousand at one time. >> So. now, um. I I don't know what to call her, the the. divine the divine feminine or whatever. >> You're now you're back on your mission. >> Right. >> So take us back through. Crohn's disease, which is a very. difficult disease with no cure.

>> Horrible. >> And. you were cured of that. >> It's gone. I went to Chapel Hill. A. doctor sent me to Chapel Hill to find. out if uh where it had gone to, if the. markers were still there, and there are. no markers. And. >> when did that when did were you cured? >> I was cured in 2007. 2009. Um I I came down with rheumatoid. arthritis. And it really didn't get bad. But I know. to me that that rheumatoid came on from.

the stress during those 5 years. And I'm. in remission now. Uh it did a lot of. damage. But um even the rheumatoid. doctor said, "Well, maybe it even Gary. Nolan, Gary Nolan told me that it. probably was a reprieve from the Crohn's. and it came back as RA.". >> Could be. I went to Chapel Hill. >> Chapel Hill. I have the paper. I'll. share with you. It says there's. absolutely no.

>> I believe you. >> no marker there. It did not move from. one to the other. So. yeah, it was. >> and this healing ability. unbelievably um you have shared with. others. >> Yeah. >> Can you talk a little bit about that? Because when I say share with others, I. don't mean a boy in your neighborhood. I. mean you've been summoned to the White. House and. >> Yeah. Well, um um.

>> that was part of what she gave me when. she came in 2012. >> Did it start with Nelly? Did it start? >> It started with my dog, Nelly. Yeah. And. that's and believe it or not, she came. back in 2013. It didn't happen the first. year in 2012. 2013, she came back and. she told me on 2013 about the the thing. with Iran and Israel. So it was 2013 is. when I first got that information and. that's the year that that I was uh asked. to put it in writing through the.

Pentagon. >> What did she see between Iran in Israel? >> She she Yeah. She said when you see. Israel and Iran begin to exchange. missiles and I saw them in vision. You. know they give you telepathic. You see. it's like looking at a television. really. That's what it kind of looks. like. She said, 'When you see these. happen, that's when we're going to come. in and we're going to start waking up. the population. We're going to reveal.

ourselves, which will change the. consciousness of people. So, all this. new knowledge is about disclosure. It's. about consciousness and. and they're going to make it happen. because it it it tames people. It opens. us up. It turns us into psychic beings. It gives us power. A lot of things this. does. >> All right. Let we'll get back to that in a little. bit. Can you tell can you just start. with Nelly? It's such a touching story. Then what happens from. >> So this is how this went down. 2013 she.

>> And there are pictures of all of this. >> Yeah, there's witnesses, a lot of. witnesses. So 2013 Easter she comes. Two. weeks later, two weeks after Easter, um this journalist UFO is is a UFO. researcher out of Canada. good friend of. mine, a guy I really have a lot of. liking for is Grant Cameron. Grant is on. the way from from Congress. They were. doing this mock Congress thing in.

Washington. And he calls me. He says, "I'm going to Florida to do an event. down there and would love to stop on the. way and visit you." I said, "Why don't. you come stay tonight?" He says, "Okay.". Comes, he stays two days. He goes to. Florida. He calls me on the way back and. he's like, "Man, can I just stop back. by? I'd like to at least take pictures. of the burning tree. I didn't get to do. that while I was there." And so he. >> the burning tree. >> Yeah. That's something else that. happened right after the lady come. I'll.

show you this. I have the video of it. >> There's so many biblical connections to. the story. >> Yeah. True. It's a true story. We have. it on video. Uh and I'll get back to Grant and Nelly. Right. So in October of 2013, October. that year, um, October of 2012, 13, 2012, cuz Grant come on 2013, right? October 2012,

right after the lady come, she came in. April. Here it is, October. It had been raining for 2 days. My wife and I and children were living. next to my dad on a 6acre property, right? 600 ft deep property and probably. 500 ft wide or something like that. And um I was a smoker then that's when I. quit smoking and I quit smoking October. 2012 after the lady came and seeing this. I wasn't going to smoke anymore right I.

[laughter]. good idea. >> So it we were watching TV my wife and I. I said I got to smoke. So I paused the. movie we were watching on the cable. vision box cable. I paused it. I walked. out the back door, lit up a cigarette. I'm on the back patio. It's a concrete. patio. The wife says, "I'll be out in a. minute." And so she's walking by the. back door as a full glass door. And she. looks out at me through the glass and.

sees way back in the back of the. property, this tree, what looked like. somebody lit a couple of bottle rockets. off from the ground and they shot up and. they did this, right? She sees that and. says, "What?" She opened the door. She. said, "What's going on with that tree?". I said, "I have no idea, but I saw that, too." And then all of a sudden sparks. would poof out 3 f feet and they would. they would just kind of do like. fireworks. It looked like then suddenly. poof this thing erupted into flames and.

it's burning 12 ft in the air from the. inside of the tree is burning and it's. shooting up through the tops. She freaks. out. Oh my god, how did this happen? And. then we run out and anyhow Ryan, my son, he takes his iPad he's got in his hand. and he starts filming this this tree. just spontaneously combusted in our. backyard. So I run a hose pipe all the. way out there, give it to my wife and. she puts it up in the tree inside of it.

and sprays it all and puts it out. Messed her up so bad she couldn't sleep, couldn't think. That was at 9:30. At. 12:00, uh, she walks by the back door and looks. and it's burning again. >> It's It's burning again. >> Burning again. So, we go out and we put. it out the second time. At 3:00 a.m., she can't sleep. She goes by the door. There it is burning again. So, she puts. it out the third time. 9.

12 and 3. And, uh, so Grant is there wanting to see this. tree. I have a video. share that burning. tree video. It's under my name, Chris. Bleds, Burning Tree. You can look that. up on YouTube. It's been there since way. back then. And um that tree became very famous. [laughter]. >> I bet it did. >> A lot of people would bring articles of. clothing and all and put in the tree and. healings would happen and stuff.

So, April 2013, Grant Cameron comes 2 weeks after Easter. and we walk out to the tree. We look at. the tree and uh stand around it 20. minutes conversating. He's got his. camera all in it and around it, right? And my black labador Nelly is laying. beside us. She just would walk where. we'd lay down, right? So, she'd been. with us the whole time. Grant's like, "Okay, um, I'm done." So,

we start back to 75 yards from back. there to the back door of the house. All. my kids are standing on the patio. They. have friends there. Grant's got his. camera in his hand. He's been filming. the tree, right? And Nelly. and and Grant and I walk right up to the. patio, stop short of the patio. I'm. standing on the dirt. He's standing on. the patio between me and the house. He's. looking at me. I'm looking at the house. Nellie's laying here beside us, right? I.

said, "Grant, um, if you want, I'll get. the kids to get your bags out of the car. and you can just stay tonight with us.". He's like, "Oh, that'd be fabulous.". So, immediately he turns his back to me. and starts toward the door. So, the back. door is open. We We live in the country. I heated with with wood. It didn't even. have heat. And so, I'd leave the doors. open that time of year and windows and. all. And so Nelly takes off to beat us in the. door. You know how a dog would do that? They try to cut you and get in front of.

you. But she did it. And when she did, I. saw her go by and blood shoot out of her. neck. Right out side of her neck. Long. stream of blood. Wet down Grant's pants. There's a string of blood going right on. in the back of the house. And I ran in. the door. Oh my god. I tackled her on. the floor. This LV plank flooring, you. know, it's real slippery. Yep. Especially with blood. was a slippery. thing. I tackle her and I drag her back. out the house. She's about 80 lb heavy.

and me with rheumatoid arthritis, you. know, was it was adrenaline that kicked. in. So I drag her out and I lay her on. the patio and we're all looking and. Grant's down there with the camera and. she's got a hole in her neck this long. right across her vein. We don't know how. it got there. my friend at NASA, the. dragon, >> he suggested maybe I should look into. healing because maybe the phenomenon is. trying to tell me something. So, I.

didn't think about it, but. that's what happened. But, um, here here's how it went. She's laying. there bleeding to death. I got my hand. on her neck and blood's coming up. through my fingers. Every time her heart. would beat, blood would shoot. [clears throat] out. It's all over the. floor, patio in Grants Pence. So, I knew at that moment she wasn't. going to live because we're 30 minutes. from a vet out in the country, 25.

She's going to bleed bleed to death. before I can even get her in the car. Is. that much blood? And uh so I just kind. of I I can remember blocking everyone. out. I didn't realize who was standing. there at that moment. I just looked up. at the heavens. And I said, "Lord, you. got to help her. She's going to die.". And the minute I said it, I felt her. struggle just she went limp. And the. picture I'll share with you has her. laying there completely limp. Didn't.

even wiggle. It went on for a while to. where I had Chris Junior go get a rag. I. thought maybe we could put pressure on. it and help it stop the hole. So he went. in and got a washcloth. Right. So. everybody sees what's happening. But the minute I said the prayer and she. went limp, I lifted the ros cloth off. her neck and the hole was disappeared. It was gone. She just stood up and waggled her tail. and walked away. >> like nothing happened. >> Like nothing happened. Grant saw it. He. documented it. He wrote a paper on it,

an article or two. And so I told that to my NASA friends. and I told it to someone. uh after the lady came, a whole lot of. people started showing up. >> Well, when did when did the government. first? >> 2008. >> How did how did they find you? How did. they. >> um did you report what happened? >> I reported it. Well, let's just say in. 2007.

is when it happened, right? In January, under. my wife's wishes not to ever talk about. it anymore because it was interrupting. the children and the schedule, I decided. I wouldn't talk about it and try to. hold, but I'm Richard Drifus, right? I. got to talk about it. >> You have to. >> And um so I went in agony. I I went in. depression and slept in my little office. for October 10 months. I wouldn't even.

talk to my wife. I was so upset, felt. restricted and and but I understood her. position with the kids. Right. >> Mhm. >> But I had uh so much anxiety and and I. had just had to talk to somebody. So I. went on the computer and found this. outfit called Muon and said, "Report. your sighting." So I wrote it up and uh. I didn't hit sin because I knew if I did. I might lose my family. >> Yeah. >> So for two weeks there I looked at it in.

agony. I finally. hit the button and the very next day I. get a call out of California from a guy. named Jim Deanchi I think his name was. And uh he's like man this is we want to. come visit and we want to investigate. I'm like hold on. I just wanted to tell. somebody I don't want y'all here. this. is going to cause me a problem. So I. said, "No, thank you." So January comes. along. This was October. I They call me.

every week. And I kept telling them. fine's gone. >> Yeah. Every week. And January comes. Um. they called me and said, "We're going to. officially close the case if you don't. want to talk about it." They'd already. open the case file. >> I said, "Well, okay, I'll talk about. it." So within a week, but within by. February of that year of 20 2008, I allowed them to come in February. So. it happened in January of 2007. So I'm. February of08, right? A year and a month. later.

>> And. we um shoot, I forgot where I was going. with that. >> When how the government first. >> Oh yeah. So, um, when I reported it, Jim. Simean told me that he knew the very. minute that I reported it. >> Cuz then some would say move on and the. government have a little bit of it's all. the same. >> It's all the same. >> It's a data gathering apparatus. That's. all they do is they gather data and they. use um volunteer people to do it. So,

they you get a sighting, they ask you, "Hey AJ, since you had that sighting, you want to become an investigator for. Muon?" Yeah. And it's exciting, right? And they can tell if you're you're like. Richard Drifus. Fall for it every time. And. >> and uh they tried to give me a training. manual and and but I never because what. happened next was terrible. This is 2008 February. By March they had six or seven.

investigators at my house all the time. and they were convincing me to do a a. documentary on Discovery. we're going to. vindicate you. This was a month, two. months after I met them, they already. had it in place. By June, they had the whole thing shot. And I was determined to to prove myself. that, you know, I saw this. It really. happened. And the community said, "No, it didn't. You know, you're dealing with. the devil.". Long story short, um, it backfired.

>> Yes, it did. Mufon did a hit job on you. >> Yeah. Yeah. And um what everyone points. to is that you didn't pass the lie. detector test, >> which on my channel I tell everybody. there those things do not work. >> Right. Right. >> But what's not emphasized is you pass a. psychiatric exam perfectly. >> Yeah. >> A perfectly sane man. >> Yep. And and the lie detector was a it.

was a farce. They gave me 34 questions. you're only supposed to have three or. four questions, you know, >> right? >> But they asked me 34 over and over for. two hours. And um. it was an abusive thing. The whole thing. was abuse. They they came in and filmed. this show. and I write about this in the book where. they my little children were so excited. Hollywood's coming, right? My daughter's. 10, 11 years old. Here they come and. they they got these assistants going.

around a lot like your staff. They're. working for support the thing and they. come and they take my kids' orders for. dinner they're going to send out for. dinner and we were all, you know, they're all in my house. They took my. whole house over. There's 17 people in. their crew. My whole house is. rearranged. Couches moved, furniture, cameras. They go out and get dinner, took our order, and when they got back, the kids was went to the table and they. didn't have any food for us. And the the producer said, "Well, you.

guys weren't in the budget.". >> Wow. >> Yeah. So, they sat there in my house, ordered food, and ate without feeding. us. And I knew then I was in a mess. >> Yeah. And then went and aired a hit job. on you. >> Yeah. So, that's the kind of thing that. happened. >> And is that where the government. >> Well, the government Yeah. Jim said he. knew immediately it was a hit job. Yep. >> Felt sorry for me. And he [snorts] said, "I couldn't ever talk to you until I. retired from CIA." But once I overtly.

retired, then he he's the first one I. met. >> This is Jim Sime. >> Jim Sime. Yeah. Wrote the Ford on your. book. >> Yeah. So this is a senior CIA official. >> Yeah. >> When did you first meet him? >> I met him in 2013 right after. >> right after the. >> right after the healing. But the first. government person I met was Dr. Hal. Pavmeire from NASA. How he is a he is a. debunker. >> Well, he was. >> he was. >> Yeah. So, they sent him to debunk my.

case. He's a senior official at NASA. for, you know, or a contractor with. them. Engineer still holds a security. clearance when he died 59 60 years he. was there. >> Yep. >> He was serious people, right? He shows. up one day at uh in the fall or summer. in 200 right after the thing aired in. June or July within a month he knocks on. my door. My son Ryan calls me. I'm in. town working or something and he's.

called his dad. Um there's this very. tall guy from NASA here at the house. wants to meet you. I said NASA? He said. yeah. He drove all the way from Cape. Canaveral by chance to find you. I said. well tell him to hang around. and I'll. be there in an hour. So, he did. And um. I was terrified because I had been told. by Muon's people in the UFO world, they. they'll kill you to go men in black. >> Yeah. They're going to kill you. Right. And so we were the whole family is. terrified by this giant of a man, right?

Turned out. >> from the government's never good news. >> Yeah. Right. Turned out he was um he was. a like a family member. He stayed with. our family until he died in 2019. Thanksgiving. He was coming. He and. Katie, his wife, were coming to to visit. us for Thanksgiving. He was 80 and he. fell and uh and and. hit his head and he never come to after. that. >> Was he the one who got you involved in.

the intelligence community? Uh yeah, in. a way that and Jim, but um he he was. there in 2008 and he would come every. year for two, three, four, five times a. year and stay. He come to my kids'. birthdays. He come to my daughter's. recital. And uh he told me, he said, "Chris," he. told everybody, you know, uh that's what. I did. I debunked everything. I was the. one that that did that. He said, "But I. have to tell you, I could not never.

debunk you." He said, "I found eight. witnesses in Grace Creek where this. thing happened on the river." Mulan. didn't go out and look. He went and put. in the effort. He went to the airport. He went to He checked behind me. He. checked my building records. He checked. everything. And he could never debunk. me. And we went right before he died. He. said, "Chris,". he said, "I know about everything there. is to know about this. I've been there a long time and I've.

always wondered is it spiritual or is it. alien? He said, "We all suspect. um one or the other, but not sure." He. said, "But now I know. I know now is is. is about God." And that's what the very. guy NASA told me that. Well, at this. point, meaning present day, you've had. CIA, DoD, EIA, all of them.

>> Yeah. >> And I mean I mean senior leaders, not. >> some low. >> Congress people. Yeah. >> What is their interest in this. phenomena? [sighs]. >> Um this is this is this is much of an. interest is more of an interest to the. government than us. I mean, we want to. know it. They they're people like us. Right. >> Right. Then and they want they want to. know what it is, but also they want to. know the technology and how to defend. >> So whatever. Yeah.

>> So there's um there's the human. curiosity about the spiritual aspect, but there's also fear that there's. technology that we can't defend against. >> Yeah. Because they don't know, you know, most people automatically they're. conditioned to believe alien. This. thing's alien. It's coming from the. Plleades or this or that. And you don't believe that? >> I think it lives right beside us all the. time. It's around us. It knows your. thoughts. I know this. I can demonstrate. it at any time with groups of people.

>> I believe you. >> Yeah. >> Now, what if there this is maybe out. there, but what if there's life on other. planets? Does this energy exist all for. infinitely? >> Yeah, I think it's I think something I I. was concerned about the triangle. I. asked people at government, the dragon. and others, "What does that triangle. mean? What does it mean?". >> The dragon, by the way, is Tim Taylor, who's a very elusive figure. >> Yeah. Yeah.

>> And see, he seems like he could swipe. his card and get anywhere. >> He can. And in the White House. or any king or queen, it doesn't matter. the Vatican. He walked right in the. bottom the ba basement of the Vatican. >> The archives. He can. >> I know somebody else can too. >> Well, who's that? >> There's a friend out of Washington. >> You don't want to name him? >> No. You probably wouldn't want me to. name. [sighs]. >> So, the Vatican is interested in this as.

well. >> Oh, yeah. >> Have they been in touch with you? >> They have through several people. Yeah. >> What What is the Vatican. >> to them? It's it's to them what I'm. seeing is the Virgin Mary. >> Right. Right. And they're go to Fatima. What do. they see? Orbs. >> They saw orbs. >> Mostly orbs. They see sometimes they get. the full apparition, but a lot of times. at these holy sites they see the orbs. >> And I I think the Catholic Church now.

has acknowledged UFOs. And I could be wrong, but haven't they. revealed at this point the three secrets. of Fatima, which which were hell, war, and. the end of religion was the the white. bishop, I believe it was, being murdered. on a mountain. So, were you ever shown? I mean, we talked earlier about there. are so many stories about two timelines. and we're in an inflection point where. we can choose as a species. We can go.

down a dark path of evil, >> right? >> Or we can go down the light path of. enlightenment. >> And we're at the point where. >> which where are we headed? >> Well, I think we're heading to the. light. >> I hope you're right. But were you ever. shown? What? Were you ever shown the other. side? >> Yeah. >> Could you tell us? >> Well, yeah. I saw. the first four hours when I was gone. remember the four hours and I started to.

hit on this earlier. >> Yep. >> They showed me Hatheror's temple. >> They showed me the pyramids. They showed. me Egypt as a whole. The Spinx was the. biggest thing. Three pyramids. I'm. looking over the pyramids at the rear. end of the Spinx. That's the position we. were in. Then they transport me up over. the United States somewhere up over the. Midwest. And we were way up high and we were. looking um and they're talking, they're. narrating these things and all of a. sudden I see the sun.

swell up in the sky. It got real big to. where the whole sky become the sun and. then it flashed. and the lights went out and I knew then. that was the reset mechanism. that uh and they told me this is what. we're in for. This is a Is this a solar. flare or is this something worse? >> Supernova. >> Oh no, that's the end of everything. then. >> Yeah. And. >> so that's not the the lights going out.

That's everything out, >> right? Uh and that's how the tectites. got here. Scientists would try to say, "Oh, that can't be a supernova." Well, yeah, it can. It's happened before and. we know it has because I've studied with. Dr. Pavmeer was the world's expert on. tectites. Yeah, he was. And how did they. get made? It come through a supernova. It didn't come from a solar flare. It. come from a supernova. He told me that. he and we know that. >> and that it can happen again. So the way.

they explained it was we had two. timelines. We had a choice. They said. that there were people in power. scripting the book of revelations to. bring about the end of the world. They. want to do this. these religious nuts, I. guess you would call it, people that are. um I don't know why they'd want to do. that. >> I think it's a shadow government and. that that's why they're building bunkers. and all of that is cuz they're trying to. engineer the end of the world.

>> Yeah. And that's what she told me. That's what the beings told me. Um that. they were trying to bring about the end. of the world. And if we'd go that route, it would end up in Armageddon. And the. like the Bible says Jesus comes back and. saves the world, right? That's what I. was talking about with Sean Ryan was. that timeline. But the other timeline. they said was that the reset button. didn't have to happen if we made the. choice to seek the light and remove the. darkness from our and that they were.

going to help. And that's by waking us up. And does. that lead us into the 2026 event? >> 2026 into a time of awakening. >> and peace, not war. >> And you have been called, I know you. don't like the word prophet, >> right? >> So let's just call it a prediction. >> What was the prediction that the lady. made? >> Well, what she told me was she it was a. riddle in a way. She said um she said.

when the red star of Regulus now keep in. mind I don't know anything about. astronomy. I don't know what Regulus is. She just put these number words out. She. said when the red star of Regulus aligns. in the gaze of the Spinx and she showed. it to me. It looked like a little red. ball. Now Regulus is blue. >> It's blue but she said it would appear. red on the horizon just before dawn. When that happens at that point would. mark a shift into a new knowledge and.

awakening of the people don't mean that. you're going to flip a switch and we all. a sudden know that day. I think it's. just a beginning of a a new era a new a. new knowledge and maybe that's the the. the revealing of this the the truth of. consciousness. >> and this will be the sphinx gazing at. Regulus. Do you know what constellation. Regulus is in? >> It's in Leo. It's in Leo. >> Ain't that crazy? >> It is. >> Why does the Why does the Space Force.

have on their badge a triangle, >> right, >> with the Sphinx looking up at the star? >> That's funny that you mentioned that. If. you look at a lot of the logos, >> whether it's NRO, all these, there's all. this Egyptian iconography on them. >> Yeah. >> It's It makes me think they know. something we don't know. >> Oh, they do. >> They do. >> They do. I can tell you they do. What do. they know and why won't they tell us? >> I wish I could tell you something I do.

know. >> Okay. >> Um. >> but let's just say uh without me getting. in really serious trouble. >> Are you under any NDA and you're not? So. you can speak freely. >> I can, but I might cut my toes off or. cut myself off from a stream of. information. >> As the legal counsel, I would advise you. to be careful here. Yeah, that's what. I'm doing. Um, but I do know that. they've documented things over the last. several hundred years,

>> several hundred years, [snorts]. >> ever since they started keeping records. in the US and and abroad over hundreds. of years, thousands, 2,000 or more. The. specific thing I'm speaking about, >> well, we can see orbs in paintings that. are hundreds of years old. >> Yeah. Yeah. Uh, it's like the the Gelder. painting of Jesus being baptized by John. the Baptist. Yes. There's a cloud up. there and it looks like a flying saucer. with laser beams. >> Yes, it does. >> How did they know to draw laser beams in.

the 1300s? >> Right. Exactly. >> They don't have a flashlight. Right. >> So, yeah, there's a whole lot of. knowledge we don't this hidden. knowledge. Do you think um. disclosure is happening now? >> It's we're in post disclosure. >> You think it's it's already happened. >> It's happened. It's happening one person. at a time. >> Cuz I'm very suspicious of what we're. being told, >> right? >> Cuz I don't know. I don't know what's. true and what's not true. So I don't.

know if this is planned disclosure. >> And if it is, I don't like that. I don't. >> Well, they're planning it. They're. definitely planning it and they've. turned up the notch 100%, right? Partly. because. when the drone thing happened. and there was there weren't drones. There were not drones at all. And we. know that they weren't drones. They know. that they weren't drones. They were. orbs, right? It's the very thing I.

predicted. >> I didn't predict it. I just told what I. was told. that when the Iran and Israel go to. exchanging missiles, then the orbs would start appearing out. of the sea, out of the land, out of the. sky. And. they were firing at one another in. November. And what happened? November, December, orbs appeared everywhere. So. the government freaked out and they. started sending their own drones up, big.

ones. and leave them for days hanging. around. All that was done to confuse the. people. >> So, you're a pilot. >> Yeah. >> Um I've been shown from another pilot a. a NOTAM report that showed in advance. all these areas where the where drones. would be. But the government never told. us that. They never said, "Relax, we got. it. It's us." They kept us confused and. frightened, right? And. >> what would be the purpose of that? Why. frighten the population? >> I tell you why. because.

I was sitting in a restaurant. with some people from the Pentagon. [laughter]. and some Congress and others in the. Capitol Grill in Washington DC this past. summer and or this p after that happened. with the the it was in this this this. year the thing happened in November, right? December but this past summer. >> Yep. and uh or spring. It was not too far.

after that we were meeting. and they wanted to know my opinion about. this. I said, "I told you you you start. shooting missiles with Iran, you're. going to get uh you're going to get it.". And they're like, "Oh my god, this is. this this is catastrophic disclosure.". So that term was coined with me sitting. at a meeting with these people back this. year. So, they don't want that to happen. They. don't want to lose control of the.

people. They're afraid if they push the. button too far, it's going to come down. here and wake us all up and take over. They're worried what's going to happen. >> And then they lose their power, their. control. >> Continuity of government. >> Continuity government. So, this all. points back to the DoD and the Pentagon. >> That's exactly what's going on. So, they. backed off of Iran. They quit shooting. at one another. >> The [clears throat] whole thing settled. down. But it didn't stop. The minute we. put F-35s in Poland, >> Yep. >> they started shutting down airports over.

there. The orbs did, not drones. >> The orbs did. >> They're orbs. >> If there were a a nuclear war, do you think these orbs would stop it? They would stop it. >> cuz we know that they have shut down. nuclear facilities. >> They told them, "You keep pushing these. buttons. We're going to we're going to. expose you. We're going to stop it." And. that's they keep warning them that. >> are the orbs themselves craft or are. they beings? >> Both.

>> They're both because. >> they're they're they're. say both because I have video of orb. beings coming out of orbs. I can show. I'll show you one today where this orb. approaches myself and two two or three. ladies. One very sick with cancer. It. approaches right up to us and flashes. and outsteps a 7 foot tall glowing white. figure. These orbs, these smaller orbs are. beings. When they flash, you see a flash. that steps, something just stepped out. of it. So, I think it's a way they can.

come into our world through that light. Um, but I have also seen many and. filmed. I have a whole thing of flying. saucers and metal balls like the. bugosphere, um, tic tacs. We we will put all that. footage in this episode because. it's all it's all there. It's it's. really undebunkable. When I see people. >> debunkers try to say that these are.

airplanes or I I I just don't get it. because I've seen the video of it happen. in real time where an or will appear and. disappear. >> Yeah. And um and there are places around. the world I think like um the H I think. it's the Hassan lights and the Marflal. lights and the brown mountain lights. Are these orbs as well in these. different places? >> Yeah, that's what they are. >> Where did they come from? Where where. did they start? >> They're here. They're around us all the.

time. We just can't see them. >> I mean the beginning. whoever created consciousness. I look at. this is a little different than a lot of. people do and I'm slowly. creating a hypothesis just you know. we're never going to know until there's. a lot of you know we may not ever know. >> I I'm wondering where the origin of. these beings were. Well, I say my little. way a difference in the way I think. there and this is biblical.

>> kind of. >> What are or what are angels? What are they? The Bible says they're. messengers, >> right? >> Doesn't mean as grandma with wings, right? Everybody has a misconception. about this. These angels are terrifying. experience. It tells you even Diana told. me every angelic experience is. terrifying because they're creatures, right? or or they're different than us. A lot. different. They can come any way they. want to come. It's a tough question, but. I think that they're part I think.

they're fractals of God or. consciousness. The word God and. consciousness is the same, right? And I. have the greatest time right now. watching all these scientists that are. atheists saying, "We're studying. consciousness." Well, you're studying. God, right? So, this is a great thing. And this is what it's all happening. We're studying consciousness, which is what is God? It's everything. >> It's everything. Whether you call it God. or the universe or what whatever you. call it, it's.

>> the source of who programmed this world. we living in. It's all information. It. was all written in code. It was all. pre-written. So, somebody programmed. this thing that we're living in. It's. all programmed. >> It's a simulation. >> Yeah, it's a simulation. So if our souls. are spun out of the source and these. orbs are spun out of the source, what's. what what's the difference? >> That's our that's a fractal of God. In. other words, how can 7 billion people or. 8 billion people pray and have a. personal experience with God at the same. time?

>> They're all connected. >> It's all connected. So these orbs are. just a little piece of that. They're a. little piece intelligent piece of God. responding to you and me. And that's. where Jesus said, "The kingdom of heaven. is within us." And if you had the faith. of a mustard seed, you could tell that. mountain to move and it would. So what. is he telling us there? They didn't like. what he was saying, so they killed him. >> Yeah, that's right. >> And um but I think that we're magical. beings with humongous power.

>> Do you think we can all do what you do? >> Yeah, 100%. >> Do you How do you do what you do? How do. you cuz you can summon orbs at will. >> I don't call it summoning cuz that is. kind of a dark term. You don't summon. these things. >> Okay. >> It's like uh tell ordering God what to. do, right? You come Well, you summon. things. People say it's evil. Well, they're summoning. You may get evil. doing that, right? Stay away from that.

word because it's not about summoning. >> That's in the Bible as well. They. >> Yeah. Yeah. When you talk summoning, whoever's doing that, these guys doing. psionic summoning, well, they don't know. what they're getting. They're liable to. get trouble. Really, you get some bad. stuff cuz it's out there, too. But I. humble myself and I say a little prayer. I just I have a little prayer that's. like this short one, and it's just. asking the Holy Spirit. whom I believe is the lady, to come.

share her presence with us. That's all I. do. nothing else. >> That's it. >> In front of a thousand people. I I had. church [laughter] at the contact. together with Gino, right? He was. standing there with me. >> The most liberal. UFO place you could go to. I just had a. little church for about 2 minutes. >> 300 people saw orbs that thousand saw. orbs that that you prayed for. >> Yeah. I just asked a little prayer. I I. said look I the lady I met.

I believe is is a divine being. She was made of light. She was floating. She come at me like the wind spirit. Uh. could it be the Holy Spirit? I don't. know. But that's where I believe. You. know it's okay. I believe that we all. imagine God in our own way. Sure. Right. >> The problem we have in this world is is. this brother Tom over there. He wants to. kill me because I don't think like him, right? Kill you because you're.

blaspheing. Well, who knows? You know, how do you know? >> How do you know? >> Right? So, that's the problem we've got. to come to understand. is this whole thing is not. in our. in our uh we can't imagine. this. Why try to own it and name it and. kill people and and have wars over. something? You have no idea how complex. and how mysterious this whole thing is.

whether you're right or wrong. >> Right. We're living in a in two. dimensions and the [clears throat] world. is much more complicated. >> Yeah, it's real complex. >> You said something earlier that. kind of frightened me a bit that that. these this energy is here. It's a. positive energy. It's a good energy. It's a protective energy. >> What's it protecting us from? >> Um the dark force. >> Oh boy. >> There is a dark force. Let me say this.

that gives a a little um. kind of where I believe this. And I. learned this through Dr. Gilbert, Robert. Gilbert. He explained something to me. about Egypt. He said, 'You know what. they dig out of the ground in Egypt the. most of all the artifacts they dig up. over there? What is it? And that would. be pendulums. Pendulums. >> Sure. >> They get thousands of them and out of. the soil there. In fact, Dr. Gilbert uh. sold a whole kit of different kinds and.

he taught people to use them. The. Freemasons use them, the Templars and. different ones and the old knowledge. These people use them. What the. Egyptians would do. is that they knew, and Robert explained. this, they knew that the earth has these. grid lines and they're very close. together. Some places they're further. apart where they're stretched and all, but he he's just like this. It's like a. tic-tac-toe pattern.

>> Some call them lay lines. >> Yeah. Yeah. Um you could, but they're. very they're they're abundant and. they're they're all over around the. whole world. It's just energy travel. north and south and they're going back. and forth. I keep buttoning this thing. >> That's fine. >> Um he said those energy lines, some are. negative and some are positive. and there are there are beings. running up and down these energy lines. constantly moving back and forth. And if.

one of those negative lines happened to. run through to your house, through a. bedroom where your child slept, uh that child could develop very bad. problems, sickness, die from it, from. this constant negative energy and these. evil spirits that are in that. So they. took pendulums and they would find these. negative lines. They would transmute. them up off the surface to clear the.

area only leave the positive lines. Right? So then they put these p these. obelisk out there. Those things are. tuned. These stones are tuned by. somebody. that we can't replicate. Why does there. one in Central Park from Egypt? Why is. there one in Paris from Egypt? >> London. They go they went to Egypt and. got them and brought them back. Right. >> They're tuned to sound frequencies. They're they they transmute this. negative energy and that's why all these. cities are so big and all the biggest.

cities have them because and the. pyramids were part of that. They were I. think they were tone generators peing. this frequency to transmute the darkness. >> 100%. It's it's been proven that if you. send the right frequencies toward the. great pyramid, it will amplify it and. turn it into energy. >> Amplifier. >> Yeah. exactly what they were. >> Yeah. >> I think the water underneath them and. the salt that they find in them. >> Yeah. >> was creating this frequency.

>> pinging constantly. >> Totally agree. I hate to plug my. episode, but we do have an episode about. the pyramid as a power plant, as a power. generator. >> And there's evidence of it of chemical. reactions and hydrogen and and it's all. based around sound and music. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. There's a belief that the pyramids. were defaced by the Europeans. You know, they were there before Jesus. 5, 600 years. >> Sure. >> The Greeks were, but I've heard through.

Robert that the pyramids used to have. musical notes all over them and that. somebody stripped that all off to. >> I haven't heard that. >> I'd heard that before. >> So, if there's the negative energy. lines, is there also a negative energy source. like we have our source? Well, everything is um yeah, the whole the. earth is a is a die hold. The sun. shining on the earth creates the energy.

and you can see it in the aurora. That's. all electricity. >> So, it's an electrical machine and and. it super we're all part of that. electrical energy from the sun and um. >> yeah, so this uh this negative energy is. like a battery. Everything works on a. positive and a negative pole. You have. same way on earth you have positive and. negative poles and you have a battery. that cranks a car. Ying and yang. It's. all the same.

>> Okay, that that makes sense to me. >> Good and evil, light and dark. >> What happens when we die? Chris, >> I think that we, [sighs]. you know, in my Christian world, they. they preach about and I'm still a. Christian, right? I love I love I was. born and raised on Jesus and always. will. >> I don't think anything you said today. contradicts religion. >> But I believe a little differently that. I don't think that we know enough to to.

demand it that when you die, you go to. heaven. It's out somewhere way. I think. it's right here around us. And I think. we can come back here. When people ask like I did, what do you. think happens when we die? I'm asking. out of fear. Are you afraid? >> No, I'm not afraid at all. >> I'm not afraid. And I think that uh. we're friends now and we'll be friends. forever. This life and the next. So, it.

works. >> Um I believe there's a possibility in. reincarnation is possible. >> I agree with that. >> Yeah. I want uh I want us to take one. more break. If you wouldn't mind coming. back for one last segment. Sure. >> I'd love to. Yeah. >> All right. Let's take I'm having fun. >> You're having fun. Uh when we come back, I'd like to talk about remote viewing. Maybe the Memorial Institute, some of. that. Okay. Okay. >> We'll back in a sec. >> Tell me about the dragon. >> Tim Taylor, the most elusive man in the. in Intel in Euphology.

How did you meet him and what's your. relationship with him? >> Um Tim. is that most elusive. He's a ghost, right? I like to say that about him. And. he's a he is a um he is a ghost because. of his work. >> What What specifically does he. >> pretty much in charge of all the. launches? >> All the launches. So NASA. >> Yeah. NASA, SpaceX, all of them. You. know, NASA runs the launch facility, but.

they all use that. They rent it. >> And I think it's public knowledge that. he consults with Elon Musk, so he's. involved. >> Sure. Yeah. So, so imagine, let's just say from what I know that. that the National Reconnaissance Office. does, you know, they they have eyes on. they have the satellites, they own all. the observation reconnaissance. That's. right. And so if you took mission. control.

and and Tim being the Dragon, he's the. head he's the head of that. He's in. charge, right? So he has mission control. is just a there's a square building. It. looks like a mobile home that's put. together a big double quadruple wide. mobile home. Little metal tin on the. outside, but there's one hallway in the. middle and it's identical on the left to. the right. And this is pretty long. hallway. building's not so small, but on.

the right when you walk down the hall. there, you get past the offices and then. there's this big glass wall and you look. over in the glass wall and it's kind of. depressed in there and there all these. consoles, people standing there and. they're running the launch and the. televisions screen on the left is. exactly the same, but it's US Air Force. people. So over there you got fatigues. on camouflage and they're in there. running a launch while this the NASA. people on the right. Well, at the end of.

the hall is where the general is and. where Tim's little office is that he. goes in after that launch goes up. He. goes in there and he has these. television screens only for him to see, right? And he's communicating. with the team that's flying. um an old. friend, he died here a couple years ago. His name Peter Choban. Peter in our guy from Houston. Um I.

write about him in my book. He he's. there. Uh I love Peter. He was old. Texan. But um Peter run the WB57 program out of. Houston, which is these big highflying. almost like a U2 spy plane thing, but. it's bigger. and it lorders around up. there at 50,000 ft. So these groundbased. cameras are looking at the rocket when. it takes off. It starts getting blurry. up that high, but this plane just.

intercepts it and follows it right on. up. It keeps hitting its cameras until. it gets to about 100,000 ft. And that's. when this other plane called F104 star. fighter. equipped with rockets on it and they. wear spac suits in that thing. and they. fly way up there and they keep tailing. the rocket. So, they're watching it. every detail. There's like seven cameras. on that plane following it. Once it gets past its range, it goes.

into the satellites, right? So, what are. they looking for? Two, three things. Big thing is a. mechanical failure. If something goes. wrong, they got know how to fix it. But. why is the dragon in that one office, >> right? Because often. these these just UFOs, flying saucers, orbs will approach these rockets in. space and investigate.

And I have seen videos of them shooting. them out of the sky or disabling them. >> Yeah. >> And I'm like, why' they do that? Did. they have weapons on that thing? He. said, well, there was a mock nuclear. warhead on there. >> I have, >> but it wasn't active. It wasn't. It. wasn't. But they still wouldn't accept. it when he told me. You saw it. >> You can find that illustration online. I. think it it talks about a craft flying. around a warhead, beaming light at it. >> I saw that video. >> until it's disabled.

>> I watched it. That's the one I asked. him. Why' they do that? Was there a. weapon on that thing? >> I And that told me all I needed to know. because they're protecting. They don't. want us up there blowing up warheads and. stuff. They don't want weapons in space. How what percentage of astronauts have. seen? >> All of them. >> Right. >> All of them. Howal told my wife that one. night I'll never forget before he died. He would start talking more. Things he. would never tell us. He always said, "Don't ask me that. The men in black.

will come get me." [laughter] I'm like, "Who's the man in black?" How? He says, "A bunch of CIA guys riding around in. black trucks. >> They all work for Tim Taylor.". >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Um, >> what do you think happened? What do you think we landed on the moon? >> I want to say I I I tell you how. confusing they are. They put out. disinformation big time. >> They don't necessarily tell you the. truth. And and uh but they will tell you. some things if you're paying attention,

but a lot of things they'll tell you'll. be confusing. >> Limited hangout. >> Yeah. Yeah. Uh Tim and Tim told me. um and I got Hal now. Howal's my best. friend and he he was the he had the. David E. Lord Award for 50 years of. occultation grazing. That's the the. moon. He wrote books on the moon and he. was the guy that that um supposedly. mapped it where Apollo landed on the.

moon. Right? So, he's telling me all. about this and that there are buildings. up there that we didn't build. How would. tell me this stuff? >> He said there's structures up there. >> He said there are old ancient structures. and we didn't build them. >> So, do you think that we landed men on. the moon in 1969? >> Well, I hear that and then Tim tells me. that uh what do you think of the moon? I'm like. it's not that he's telling me. He's. planting these ideas in my head. What do.

you think of the moon? I'm like I don't. know. I've been obsessed with it all my. life. You know, I wrote about in the. book. I [clears throat] was a little. boy. I was always staring at it. He. said, "You think it's real? Think the moon is real?". >> That's what he told me. He said, "You. think it's real?" I said, "Well, I think. so." He said, "Uh, isn't it funny?" and. he give the numbers like 400 million. miles and it's in the exact spot and it. never changes its face and it's locked. in the locked and.

>> how it got there. He said maybe it was. towed in position. >> There are ancient Native American. legends about the sky without the moon. and when it arrived and the earth was. covered in mist and when the moon. arrived that's when the tides and the. oceans formed. >> I had no idea that. Yeah. Wow. So that's. what that's the kind of things that they. do. These intel people, they tell you. all kinds of things. So I have to try to. sift through the data and make my own. thoughts. But insinuated that it may.

have been pulled here. >> A moon that large and that close. has never been found on any planet ever. And we've found thousands of them. We. are the only one with this thing. >> Yeah. If I had to guess, I would say we went. to the moon, saw some things that maybe. the government didn't want us to see, and that's why we didn't go back for a. while. And maybe. >> Yeah, I think that's probably the truth. about it. You know, that we did go there.

and they were told not to come back. >> They were told not to come back. >> Yeah, most likely. >> So, that leads me to to remote viewing a. little bit cuz um Project Stargate, >> right? So you Joe McMonicle is a friend. of yours. Project Star good friend of. mine. Yeah. >> Ingoing Swan was part of that project. He saw aliens on the moon and said we're. not welcome there. And he saw the. structures and all of that. >> And earlier you mentioned that you had a. vision or dream about Bigfoot on Mars,

which sounds funny, but. >> Joe remote viewed without knowing what. he was looking at. He was given. coordinates, >> right? And he said he saw large beings. on Mars and he finally opens up the card. and it says it's Mars 1 million years. ago. >> You said you've you can remote view or. you've trained in it. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Um in fact. uh you know I'm on the history channel.

of being at Monroe Institute and I'm. kind of like an ambassador for them and. um I promote them. I love them. my. daughter, my son is a trainer for them. and. >> we're big fans of them here. >> Yeah. Yeah. And um so I'm a huge. supporter of them. They've helped me out. a whole lot. But remote viewing, all of us have that capacity. Everybody. Some people it comes easy. Some people. have it all the time and don't know. what's happening. We all have these.

moments where say you call you think I'm. going to call my wife. pick up the phone and you start dialing. and suddenly your wife thinks about AJ. and then the phone rings. >> always. We all have it, >> right? That's that is the that tells you. one thing that when your wife thought of. you, you thought of her, her thoughts fly through space and. you're able to pick up on that. So. that's what consciousness is about.

is it's floating. It's an internet. around us in our brains is the the. receiver to it. I think our information. is stored throughout our whole body, even in our organs. But that's the. computer. That's the CPU that's been. shut off and doesn't know this ability. >> What did you see when you remote viewed? [sighs]. >> All kinds of things. Um we're given. tasks to do. You know, I've taken. training on this stuff. I've been to. classes with it. And uh.

um it's according what the task was, you. know, whatever we're working on. But. I've been doing this, they first came to. me, let's just say one of the things. that that they know that NASA told me a. long time ago that people who interact. with these orbs become very psychic. So that's natural part of it. All of. humanity starts experiencing this. they. become very psychic. and um that is that's kind of alarming.

to the people in power. They don't want. us all becoming psychic. >> Well, imagine if. >> all of us could communicate with orbs or. or remote view. >> and we all can. >> and maybe that's the awakening. >> that you've been told about by the lady. >> I think that's it 100%. I believe the. disclosure is happening and once these. people one at a time begin to realize oh. my god it's real then you become you.

start awakening and you can develop. these powers and it's happening with Dr. Diane Hennessy Pal and uh Dalia and uh. Vu which are very close friends of mine. I work with them. Uh we do a lot of work. together and all these wonderful kids. with Kai Dickens. Uh Kai and I were on. the World Forum just during Christmas, right? She told me I ordered one thing. for Christmas and that was your book. [laughter].

>> I thought that was pretty cool, right? But um. >> well, let me put you on the spot then. What? Cuz you've you've said this. before. What's the date? What's the date. when Regulus turns red? >> I don't know that. Uh and I'll tell you. why. >> Okay. >> I was given this riddle by the lady. >> You've been misqued. >> Yeah. Yeah. I'm misqued all the time. I've got people on the internet saying. Chris says this or Chris says that. I've. never said that. Chris says that the.

Spinx is going to open up its paw and. all this. Right. I never [laughter] said. that. Edgar Casey said that, right? It's. all over the internet. Uh but what um. >> you say a lot of things that Edgar Casey. said about all Hall of Records and stuff. similarities. >> Well, it's all part of um this. progression and studying. I study. everybody. I'm on admission myself. But what I do know is when I when the. lady told me about this many years ago.

um. about the the Regulus and and this the. star I immediately called a a a a. literary agent friend of mine Lisa. Hagen. Lisa's a very close friend lives. in Virginia book publisher. and I told her we were working on a. manuscript Lisa and we were talking all. the time. So I told her about this and. um she said oh my I know a lot of people.

that does astrology they I write they. write books you know I said well find. out if this is going to happen if it's. really real. I don't know if it's going. to happen. It was just a riddle she gave. me. So she calls. um Kurt Nielsen from uh he's part of the. the Edgar Casey Research Center and. different ones and they all came back to. me way back then September. of 2026 this is going to take place. So.

for seven or eight years that's all I. preached about. You can look at many. podcasts at older ones and I I'm always. saying September of 2026. when I wrote the book. I thought I. better fact check this. And so I called. Lisa back and I said, "Lisa, um, you. remember this? Tell me, am I correct? Wouldn't it September?" She said, "Oh, I. think we made a mistake there. I think. they believe now it's going to be an. Easter around April." And I thought,

well, that makes sense because the lady. always comes on Easter. So that's what I went with. But I never. really felt. because for eight or nine years, that's. all I said was in September. I was never. sold on it other than the ladies always. associated with Easter or has been. That's when she comes. And. but now I see that these astrologers are. still unsure of the when this alignment. will happen. And some are saying October.

or something. >> October 7th. >> Yeah, >> October 7th, 2026 at 5:30 a.m. it will. line up with the Sphinx. And if the. atmosphere conditions are correct, that. blue star is going to turn red. >> Well, that's that's the date. >> This is scientific. If if if it's a like. have a harvest moon or. >> that red dust from the Sahara, if that. happens, that blue star is turning red. that day. >> And that's what date? October. October. 7th, 2026.

>> Okay. Cuz I'm planning to go in the fall. to Egypt. I wasn't really set on e. Easter and and and so you know, even. though I wrote in the book. still, if you read what I wrote, it was. just that I become to believe. I was never really sure uh when that. alignment and I'm totally dependent on. the the experts to tell me when that'll. be. And now I'm here in October 7th, right? So that's probably when I'll be.

in Egypt. >> And I think it's important for everybody. to know that when and if that happens, we're not going to see magical visions. in the sky. It it could be a very subtle. just shift. >> Yeah. I think it's going to be something. that comes and goes, but we'll all. realize. >> in the next 5 years. Boy, that dude. really 12 years ago made this prediction. that the orbs would appear when Israel.

and Egypt and all that, but well, it all. happened. I've been saying it 12 years, right? And now, um, I think it's just going to mark a. change, uh, a a new. I think we're going to learn some things. between now and then that's going to. shock us all. I think disclosure is. going to come more real. The. government's going to reveal more. things. I have a little birdie telling. me that Egypt is about to release. something this year that's going to.

rewrite history. >> Is that right? >> Yeah. I've been asked to be a part of. it. >> Can you share any of that? >> I can't. >> Can you tell me where in Egypt or. >> I just know it's through the Egyptian. government through the antiquities. authority. >> I don't I don't trust those guys. [laughter]. >> I don't either, but there are very valid. scientists in the United States that are. a part of it. >> There are and there's a lot happening in. the Valley of the Kings right now. It. could be they just discovered a new a. new pharaoh there. It could be something. out of that dick.

>> I think it's more about what's under the. ground, >> man. I hope we're talking about the Hall. of Records. >> I I don't know. They didn't tell me. They just told me they want me in Egypt. this year and that they were going to. reveal something that's going to rewrite. history. >> There's a there's a story that that I. tell on the show about Dorothy Edy. I. don't know if that rings a bell. >> Dorothy who? >> Dorothy Edy. >> Edy. I don't know her. She she's she's. born in England early 1900s and since. she's a child she's always drawn to.

ancient Egypt and her parents don't know. why and they take her to the British. Museum one day she's four or five years. old and she goes to the mummy of the. pharaoh that might have been Ramsy's the. great and she's crying and she's says. that's that's who I I know him they give. her a book about ancient Egypt. As a child, she's able to pick up. hieroglyphics. She can she speaks the. language. She eventually goes to Egypt.

and she knows her way around all the. temples. >> She believes that she's reincarnated. >> Yeah. >> From an ancient Egyptian priestess. called Amseti. And she says that. underneath the Sphinx are these chambers. and there's knowledge down there. And. this is someone who worked Dorothy. worked with antiquities for years. They. trusted her. >> Oh, wow. So you've got scientific. evidence with a little bit of the. spiritualism of reincarnation. You've. got Edgar Casey's predictions. You've.

got the people that you know. We've got. liar GPR showing all these cavities. There's something down there. >> Definitely. And they're going to tell. about it this year. >> if it it changes everything. >> Yeah. So I think that'll be part of this. new knowledge. This is going to happen. It's going to rewrite uh it's going to. rewrite uh that an old way there's a new. way a new knowledge uh I think you're. going to see fusion energy.

all that come. >> helium 3. >> all that well imagine a world tomorrow. >> to where Elon doesn't need rockets. anymore. >> but there are going to be forces that. are going to fight that every step of. the way. >> are they still are. >> And they still are. >> And they just killed the fusion expert. I tell you right, they just killed him. >> They just killed them. >> And they're planning to roll fusion out. That means, you know what that means? About 80% of everything you buy is.

energy cost. >> That's right. >> Energy. >> So what happens if energy is free? Then we become very wealthy and um. everything gets very cheap and right the. living becomes a lot different. >> and those who that power structure it it. kind of goes away. >> Well that's part of the new knowledge. >> The lady said she was going to wake the. people up and reveal expose the darkness. and look at all what's being exposed.

right now all around the world. This. things that people are horrified over. seeing and you know dark politics and. child trafficking. Who ever thought in. the this year in 2025 we'd be. trafficking children or people and the. US is the biggest trafficker it seems. >> It seems so. I I think everybody can. sense can sense that something's. happening and can sense that there's a.

ongoing war between good and evil. Yeah, that's and I think the the the good is. going to prevail and all the evil is. going to be exposed. That's my. prediction that's going to happen. I. don't think we're going down the road of. Armageddon. I think we're going up to a. new time of happiness and after all. these dark individuals are exposed and. kicking and screaming and it's. happening. >> I'm going to I'm going to choose to.

believe you. Chris, thank you so much. for coming today. >> Thank you. name of your book is. >> UFO of God. >> UFO of God. Um, and I would say it's an. excellent book. Even if you're not into. UFOs or religion, it's a fantastic. story. It's a great book. >> Thank you for that. It's on Amazon. um and most other outlets. I. self-published it, but the crazy thing. is that it's been in the top three to. five in its categories for three years.

now. >> Well, let's get it up to number one. And. when's your next book coming out? >> Hopefully by summertime. >> Now, for fans of the W files, you know. the saying is there's always a book. Um, something to keep in mind, folks, is. that Chris didn't monetize his story for. 15 years. >> 15 years. Yeah. >> Right. So, >> I never wrote about it until um 2022. This started in 20 2007.

and all the research I've done. I have. spent. I have spent more time out filming the. sky than any three people you can come. up with. Nobody probably has spent the. amount of time I have out observing the. sky. And I've done it all on my dime. And it was I get people saying, "Oh, you. got the horrible camera. You should do. this. You Why don't you go out and do. the filming?". >> Well, let's let's support his work, gang. grab that book and uh and I'll.

keep everybody posted with what you're. doing and how we can support your work. It's very important. >> Um I do believe we're in a battle with. darkness and your message is is valuable. and important and it's it's a weapon for. for good and we all need to wield it. >> I appreciate that, AJ. And if things go. right in the next 30 or 45 days, we're. going to we're going to step it up and. start an expedition out your way and. hope to have you and Gino to come along.

with us at times if you want. >> We'll be a part of it. >> We're going to film this guy every night. and and get more serious about it. >> We'll be a part of it. >> Yeah. >> All right, Chris. Thanks again and God. bless. So, we just spent 3 hours with. Chris Bledstoneone, [music]. and I need to sit with this a minute. Here's what we know. The January 8th, 2007 incident at [music] Capefar River. is documented. Chris, his 17-year-old. son, and three adult co-workers were.

[music] all present, and all of them. reported what they saw. Muon. investigated, though Chris says the. investigation became a hit job, and. that's probably [music] true. What's. harder to dismiss is who came next. Harold Pavvenmire, a NASA engineer who. worked on project Apollo and spent. [music] 59 years at the agency. He. investigated Chris for over a decade and. couldn't debunk him. Pavvenmire died in. 2019, still [music] believing. Jim. Seivan, a 25-year veteran of the CIA's. clandestine service, wrote the forward.

to Chris's book. Dr. Hal Puto put off. from SRRI, the guy who ran the CIA's. remote viewing program. He's [music]. also studied the case. These aren't. fringe characters. These are real. people. As for the big claims, Chris. says his Crohn's disease was cured after. the encounter and that he has. documentation from UNCC [music] Chapel. Hill showing no markers remain. Well, I. couldn't find independent medical. verification of that. It's his word and. his records. [music]. But here's where it gets interesting. Chris claims orbs interact with nuclear. sites. [music]. Well, that's actually documented.

elsewhere. There's the 1967 Malmstrom. Air Force Base incident [music] where. Captain Robert Salis reported a glowing. red object hovering over the facility. right before 10-minute man nuclear. missiles went offline. [music] That's. been testified under oath before. Congress. UFO activity around nuclear. facilities isn't infringed conspiracy. It's in [music] Pentagon records. Now, here's what I'm still chewing on. The. lady, this feminine being of light that. appears to Chris on Easter, that he. connects to Hatheror, [music] to Fatima,

to the divine feminine traditions across. cultures, and the 2026 prophecy. When. the star Regulus aligns in the gaze of. the [music] Sphinx, a new knowledge will. come into the world. Now, the astronomy. nerds have run the numbers, and [music]. nobody agrees on the exact date. Some. say Easter, some say August, but it's. probably going to be October 7th. Chris. says he's been saying this since 2012, long before anyone was calculating. [music]. alignments. So my take is that Chris. Bledsoe is either sitting on experiences. that bridge the gap between UFOs,

spirituality, and human consciousness in. ways we don't have language for yet, [music] or he's the most convincing. experiencer in modern history with an. unusual talent for attracting highle. interest. What I can't explain away is. the caliber of people who investigated. him [music] and walked away believers. NASA engineers, CIA officers, Pentagon. officials. Something about this case. keeps pulling [music] serious people in, and that's what keeps me thinking about. it. Chris's book is UFO of God, available on [music] Amazon. He. self-published it, and he's been in the.

top five in its category for 3 years. If. you want to go deeper on his story, that's where [music] to start. Until. next time, be safe, be kind, know that. you are appreciated. [music]. >> [music]. >> Oh. yeah, I play [music] Bibia [singing]. in area 51. A secret code inside the.

Bible said I would. [music]. I love my UFOs and paranormal fun as. well as music songs [music] hanging like. I should. But then another conspiracy theory. becomes the truth my friends. and it [music] never ends. No, it never ends.

[music]. I feel the crap guy. I got stuck inside. Mel's home with MKL. I feel [music] only. aware. Did Stanley Cubrick fake the moon. landing [singing] alone on a film set of. the shadow [music] people there? The Roswell aliens just fought the. [music] smiling man. I'm told. and his name was cold. But [music] I.

can't agree. I'm catching with the fish. on Thursday night. and my family through the night. [music]. All. the truth. all through the night. [music].

The m sidings and the solar storm. [music] still come to gather the young. city underground. Mysterious number stations, Planet. Circle, [music] Project Stargate, and. where the dark watchers [singing]. found.

in a [music] simulation. Don't you worry. though. The black night. so I can't believe I'm dancing [music]. with the fish. on Thursday night when they chase you. and my [music]. all through the night. I never wanted to hear the truth. So. [music]. all through the night.

[music]. that's when they. all. [music]. >> [music].

>> Girl loves to dance. Your girl [music] loves to dance. because she is a camel. Camel loves to. dance. When the feeling is wasting time. [music]. Heat. Heat. [music].