JFK's Assassination and the CIA's Psychic Cold War

This episode of the Y Files is brought. to you by PBS Debt. On March 29th, 1977, George Demoren told. a journalist that his close friendship. with Lee Harvey Oswald was an assignment. from the CIA Dallas office. Congress sent an investigator to take a. statement. When he got to the house, George's family said he wasn't home, but. he was. He was in his bedroom dead from. a shotgun wound that nobody heard. But. the story doesn't start in 1977 and it.

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residential kidney? >> Never mind. Found out. In 1948, the Cold War got weird. There. was the space race, the arms race, and. the psychic race. Rumors out of Moscow. said Soviet scientists were testing. telepathy in labs. If mine could be a. weapon, American intelligence wanted. one. But there was a problem. No.

respectable scientists would touch the. subject, and Congress was never going to. fund seances, at least not publicly. The. psychic race needed a man willing to bet. his career on it. That man was a. 30-year-old doctor from Chicago named. Andrea Purich. The army put Purich. through medical school at Northwestern. during the [music] war. While he was. still a student, Purich published a. theory that his colleagues would go. near. He believed the human brain was a. radio. Neurons didn't just fire, they. transmitted, and anything [music] that. could transmit could also receive. If he. was right, telepathy wasn't magic, it.

was biology. And poor Rich wanted to. prove it. He rented a 45 room mansion in Glen. Cove, Maine, and started building. He. converted one of the rooms into a. Faraday cage, a chamber wrapped in. copper screen that blocks radio waves. and electricity. If the brain is a. radio, you test it like a radio. Put a. psychic inside a room that no signal can. penetrate and see what still gets. through. He called the project the. Roundtable Foundation of Electrobiology. So, the program had a name, a facility, and a testing protocol. The only thing.

Porich was missing was money. He needed. private funding. >> Private funding? That reminds me. I need. to launch the Kickstarter for my. vasectomy. >> Just why? You want me to have the cat. eat you? >> Reward tiers. Reward tiers. For $10, you. can hold the camera. For $50, you can. hold the scissors. For 100, you can hold. me. >> I'll give you 500 to never talk about. this again. >> 200. >> Done. The first check came from Alice. Aster Boovery. Her father was the. richest man on the Titanic. He went down.

with a ship in 1912 and Alice inherited. a fortune and an obsession with the. afterlife. After that, the donor list. read like a who's who of American wealth. and power. Business tycoons, aises, and. of course, politicians. Henry Wallace, Franklin Roosevelt's former vice. president, he cut a check. These people. sat on corporate boards, advised the. White House, and had some ties to the. OSS, which became the CIA. Poor Rich. tested mediums and claravans from around. the world, and most of them disappointed. him. Then the Indian philosopher DG.

Vinod took Purich's right ring finger, held it for a minute, and whistled. softly. >> I held the guy's finger for a full. minute. Pull my finger. It's a two-c. transaction. Anything longer, you're. dating. >> That That That's not what this was. >> He pulled his finger and heard. whistling, "Hello.". >> Vinod spent the next hour describing. private events from Poor Rich's life in. perfect detail. The round table was now. in business. And on New Year's Eve 1952, Vinod laid. down inside the testing room. At 9:00,

Vinod started talking. It was Vinad's. voice, but the words weren't his. The. words came from nine ancient Egyptian. gods. And Purich recorded everything. The voice was slow and deliberate, nothing like Venods. >> We are nine principles and forces. personalities, if you will. >> The voice called itself the great. Indian. The nine gods of Helopoulos.

worshiped in Egypt for 3,000 years. before Christ. And they said they. weren't a myth. They were real and. physical. And they weren't gods. They. were alien minds on a spacecraft. watching Earth. The Nine said they controlled the. universe and guided all of human. history. But they were through. influence, not miracles. A person met. someone at the right time. A door. opened. A decision looked ordinary until. years later when the pattern became. visible. Vinod came out of the trance. with no memory of what happened. But.

poor Rich had dozens of pages of notes, including physics equations that didn't. make [music] sense, at least not to him. But he didn't have much time to study. his notes cuz 6 weeks later, the United. States Army recalled Poor Rich to active. duty. He went to Edgewood Arsenal in. Maryland [music] where the military. tested hypnosis, LSD, and measculine on. soldiers. His orders were to find a drug. that enhanced extra sensory perception, psychic research, and mind control. funded by the US military. That summer, he went back to Maine on.

leave. And on June 27th, 1953, under a. full moon, he gathered nine people at. the mansion, one for each of the nine. gods. And he picked these people. carefully. [music] Eight were wealthy. and connected. Puridge took the ninth. chair for himself. Vinod sat in the. middle. At midnight, the nine [music]. returned, and this time they came with a. mission. They said the nine people at. the table were chosen to transform human. civilization. They didn't answer to any. religion or government. They answered to. something much older and much more. powerful. Then the cotton threads.

appeared. Nine threads on the floor 3 ft. from Vinod. Nobody saw where they came. from. >> They should have checked his belly. button. >> Who's the the magic guy? What's his. name? Gonad. >> Vinod. >> Rimrod. >> Vinod. >> Whatever it is, my money's still on. belly button. There was one thread for each [music]. person at the table, identical to the. sacred thread Hindu brahinss receive at. initiation. The nine chosen ones picked. up the threads and accepted the. assignment. Nobody outside that room would have.

believed a word of it. Puridge barely. believed it. But 3 years later, a. stranger a thousand miles away sent him. a letter that proved the nine were real. After the session, Vinad returned to. India and the nine went quiet. When the. money ran out, poor Rich went to Mexico. looking for [music] sacred mushrooms to. open his mind. >> Ah, the classic wellness retreat. My. uncle Irving took the same trip in ' 74.

Left as an accountant, came back as a. rain stick guy. Yeah, I can still smell. the puli. And let me tell you, Uncle. Irving looked terrible in a fish bun. At. the hotel, Purich's room was. accidentally given to an American couple. from Michigan, Dr. Charles Loheed and. his wife. [music] Purich met them. Void. said they were contactees. Space. Intelligences spoke through them. These. were Purich's kind of people, so they. kept in touch. A month after Purich came. home, a letter from Loheed arrived. It. described a young Arizona contactee,

George Hunt [music] Williamson. No. connection to Maine, no connection to. Poor Rich. He never heard of the round. table. But somehow Williamson received. the same transmission from the nine on. the same nights in 1952 and 1953. Pidge. still had his doubts, but then he got to. the last page. [music] The letter. contained the Einstein Lorren. transformation, the physics equation. that describes how time and space. distort near the speed of light. Poor. Rich recognized it. The nine spoke the. same equation through Venad. Nobody. outside that copper room could have.

known this. The nine broadcast the same. message to two receivers separated by a. thousand miles through people who never. met. After that, Purich stopped [music]. doubting. He spent the rest of his life. following the instructions from that. room. But the nine were silent. [music]. Purich searched for another channel, but. every medium he tested came up empty. It. took 15 [music] years, but the nine. finally found a vessel worthy of. delivering their message. A 24year-old. Israeli paratrooper who could bend. spoons with his mind.

>> [music]. >> The call came from Israel. Yuri Geller. claimed he could read minds and. influence events. [music] He said he. could bend metal and stop clocks. Puridge was skeptical, but witnesses. said Geller was the real deal. [music]. So Purich flew to Tel Aviv to watch him. work. Soon after that, both men were on. a plane to America. At his estate in. Austining, New York, Purich [music].

launched operation lab 9. He built. another Faraday cage, had a new medium, and once again asked to speak to the. ancient astronaut gods. And this [music]. time they answered. But a different. voice came through Geller. It called. itself Spectra, a super intelligence. aboard a spacecraft 53,000 lighty years. away. It was still the nine, but using a. new name, and it had new instructions. To complete this new mission, Purich. knew he needed help. So he took Geller. to the Stanford Research Institute in. California, the infamous SRRI.

Two physicists, Russell Tar and Harold. Putoff, were also experimenting with. psychics, specifically remote viewers. SRRI was recruiting and training people. who project their consciousness [music]. anywhere on Earth and beyond. Some of. their most talented subjects could even. see through time. The first experiments. were easier than sending [music] your. consciousness to Mars. The subject was. given a sealed envelope and asked to. draw what was inside. The experiments. were conducted in a shielded room. similar to a Faraday cage. Over 7 days.

in August 1973, Geller made drawing. after drawing. One envelope had a. picture of grapes, 24 of them. Geller. drew 24 grapes. [music] Another image. was the solar system. Geller drew that, too. Geller got 10 in a row. [music]. Impossible odds witnessed by trained. scientists. In October 1974, Tar and put. off published their experiments in. nature. This highly respected. peer-reviewed [music] journal printed. evidence that mines could see through. walls. The CIA noticed. They launched a. secret program that [music] eventually.

became Stargate. And for over 20 years, Stargate trained the CIA's psychic. spies. And back at Lab 9, the guest list grew. Scientists from SRRI, wealthy elites, politicians, even European nobility. showed up using fake names. And one of. those wealthy elites was British. businessman John Whitmore. Whitmore was. so impressed with poor rich that he. wanted to make a movie about the nine. So they brought in an out of work TV. writer, Gene Rodenberry. >> Gene Rodenbury wasn't impressed. He. thought the psychics were making it all.

up. But something must have stuck with. him because years later in Deep Space 9, there's a character named Vinod. The. episode is about a cult leader who is. protected by a small inner [music]. circle. >> Season 2, episode 15, Paradise. the cult. leader champs, everyone's technology so. nobody could leave the planet. >> Do you know the episode number. >> human? I've seen every episode of Star. Trek ever, except the one with a whale, not the whale. Uh Star Trek went down a. dark alley and I could not follow. >> Whether Poridge was a cult leader could.

be debated, but he had an inner circle. and [music] they kept receiving. instructions from the nine. Prepare. humanity. Get the right people [music]. in place. The transformation is coming. One member of the inner circle was Ruth. Forbes Payne Young. That Forbes, she was. also the great granddaughter of Ralph. Waldo Emerson. Her husband Arthur Young. made his own fortune when he invented. [music] the Bell helicopter. In February. 1963, their son Michael Payne was at a. dinner party with his wife, also named.

Ruth. At that party, they became friends. with a Russian housewife who [music]. spoke almost no English, Marina Oswald. The Pays didn't know it at the time, but. 7 months later, Marina's husband would. be sneaking around their garage hiding a. [music] rifle. Before that dinner party could happen, someone had to bring Marina Oswald into. that room. In the summer of 1962, Lee. Harvey Oswald returned to Texas with a.

Russian wife, a baby daughter, and a. problem. He spent nearly 3 years in the. Soviet Union and announced he wanted to. give up his American citizenship and. then he changed his mind. The Russian. speaking community in Dallas helped the. family at first, but Oswald wore them. out with his temper and his politics. One by one, they walked away. But not. George Demorenshield. He was a. Russian-born aristocrat who became a. Texas oil man. He moved in the same. wealthy social and diplomatic circles as. the Drexals, the Morgans, [music] the. Bouvier, and the Kennedys. He also had.

friends in the US government. specifically the intelligence community. Jay Walton Moore was an officer in the. CIA's domestic contacts division. They. collected information on Americans. overseas. After every foreign trip, George sat down with Moore and told him. what he saw. In 1962, Moore brought him. an assignment, an ex-Marine living in. Fort Worth, just back from the Soviet. Union. He was perfect for the job. He grew up. in Minsk, and Oswald had lived in Minsk. for years. Of every man in Dallas, only. one can sit across from Lee Oswald and.

talk about Lenin Avenue stretching to. Victory Square, about the river, about. the smell of popcorn at the circus. George was actually eager to chat with. someone from his hometown, but he. wouldn't risk his business or his. reputation. Moore said both would be. fine. In fact, there was a juicy oil. contract in Haiti that could land his. way if he helped out the agency. So, George De Moilt with fresh orders to. make a new friend drove to Fort Worth. And for about six months, he ran. Oswald's life. He drove him to job. interviews. He helped the family find.

housing. He even stepped into arguments. when Lee got violent. And Lee listened. to George. On paper, the friendship made. no sense. George Deornshield dined with. senators and oil executives. Lee Oswald. worked a factory job and read marks. during lunch. But the friendship was. real. George liked him. He told people. he felt sorry for Lee. He was bright, bitter, and in over his head. He stayed. close until February 22nd, 1963 when he. brought the Oswalds to a small party in. Dallas. One of the guests was Ruth.

Payne, a separated mother who studied. Russian. Marina needed someone to talk. to, and Ruth wanted someone to practice. with. By the end of the evening, they. exchanged phone numbers. That spring, George de Morenel left for Haiti and. never saw Lee Harvey Oswald again. But. he didn't need to. His mission was. complete. The CIA's man in Dallas made. one introduction and it was the only one. that mattered. The only thing left to do. now was wait and watch history unfold. [music].

The rifle started in a Chicago mail. order warehouse. It ended in a garage in. Irving, Texas, wrapped in a blanket. tucked behind camping equipment. Between. those two points, a chain of. introductions ran through one family. Ruth Payne was separated from her. husband, Michael, who still paid the. mortgage on the house in Irving. Michael. worked as a research engineer at Bell. Helicopter in Fort Worth. He also held a. security clearance. His mother was Ruth. Forbes Payne Young, the woman who.

accepted a cotton thread at a seance in. Maine. His stepfather was Arthur Young, the man who designed the Bell helicopter. and signed the checks for Purich's. research. In September 1963, Ruth Payne. packed her station wagon and drove east. on a two-e trip to visit family. One of. her stops was her sister Sylvia's house. in Falls Church, Virginia. Falls Church. is next door to Langley and Sylvia. worked for the [music] CIA. Then Ruth swung south to New Orleans. where the Oswalds were coming apart. Lee. was out of work and Marina was pregnant.

with her second child. Ruth made her an. offer. Come live with me and Irving. until the baby comes. Marina said yes. [music] and moved in permanently, but. Lee stayed behind. He only came out on. weekends. By that fall, he had almost. nothing. His wife and children moved. out. He lived in a rented room. He was. almost broke. The one thing he owned was. wrapped in a blanket in the Payne's. garage in Irving. Michael Payne thought. it was camping gear. By October, Lee. needed work. Ruth made a few phone calls. and helped Lee get a job as a warehouse.

clerk in Dallas. His first day at the. Texas School Book Depository was October. 16th. That same morning, he was offered. a job with an airline. Better work, better pay. He kept the warehouse job at. D Plaza. When Kennedy came to Dallas for. a motorcade, his route was unknown to. the public until November 19th. Lee. Oswald had already been at the. depository for over a month. On the. evening of Thursday, November 21st, Oswald came out to Irving a day early. Marina was surprised, and [music] not in.

a good way. He played with his daughters. outside until dark. Then three times. that night, Lee begged her to move back. to Dallas. She said no three times. He. went to bed angry. In the morning, he. asked her for a kiss and she turned. away. Then Lee Harvey Oswald was gone. He left his wedding ring on the dresser. and he never took that ring off. Not in. 2 and 1/2 years of marriage. He left. $170 in cash, almost everything he had. He did not leave a note. He walked into work carrying a long.

paper package. A coworker asked what was. inside. >> Curtain rods. >> Oswald said it was curtain rods. >> It wasn't curtain rods. At 12:29 on November 22nd, 1963, the.

presidential motorcade turned from. Houston onto Elm Street in De Plaza. Kennedy sat in the back of an open top. Lincoln waving. At 12:30, the shots. came. Three rounds. Kennedy slumped over. Governor Connelly collapsed in the seat. ahead of him. The limousine raced to. Parkland Hospital where [music] doctors. pronounced the president dead at 1:00. On the sixth floor of the depository, police found three spent shells, a. cardboard box near the window, and a.

long empty paper bag, and hidden near. the stairwell, a boltaction 6.5 Carcono. rifle that traced directly to Lee Harvey. Oswald. [music] And you know the rest of. the story. 45 minutes later, officer JD. Tippet was shot dead on a sidewalk in. Oakliff. Police arrested Oswald at the. Texas Theater. Two days later, in the. basement [music] of Dallas Police. Headquarters, a strip club owner named. Jack Ruby stepped out of a crowd and. shot Oswald on live television. Oswald. died at Parkland Hospital.

There was no trial, no. cross-examination, not one word of. testimony from Oswald, but there didn't. need to be. He was the shooter, the lone. gunman, and that was the end of it. But. a murdered president and a murdered. suspect left the country full of. questions. So 7 days after Dallas, President Lyndon Johnson appointed a. commission of seven men to answer those. questions chaired by the Chief Justice. of the United States or Warren. The. press called it the Warren Commission. For 10 months, the commission took. testimony from hundreds of witnesses. In. [music] September 1964, it published its.

answer, an 888 page report backed by 26. volumes of evidence and one conclusion. Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone. Case. closed officially. Except the case never closed for the. American people. Instead, the questions. got louder. Within a few years, most. Americans didn't believe the official. story, and people spent decades digging. into details [music] that the commission. ignored. What they found always led back.

to one house, Michael and Ruth Payes. Marino lived with the Pays. Oswald was. there every weekend. He was there the. night before the murder. The murder. weapon was in their house. Nobody was. closer to the Oswald family than the. Pays. Ruth Payne became the commission's. most valuable civilian witness. She. testified longer than almost anyone, and. she translated for Marina, who still. spoke very little English. Her. translations were the backbone of the. official story of who Lee Oswald was and. what he intended to do that day. The. backyard photos, Oswald posing with the.

rifle and his Marxist newspapers, [music]. they came out of Ruth Payne's garage. with the rest of the family's. belongings. The rifle came out of that. same garage, and so did one piece of. evidence almost nobody talks about. When. Dallas police searched the Payne's. house, Detective Gus Rose found a Minox. camera loaded with film in Oswald's bag. A Minox is a German spy camera, small. enough to hide in the palm of your hand. Intelligence agencies loved them. Warehouse clerks couldn't [music] afford. them. The camera was photographed and.

put into police inventory. Then the. camera disappeared. But something showed up in the FBI's. inventory, a Minox light meter. Three. times the FBI asked Gus Rose to change. the paperwork from camera [music] to. light meter. Rose refused every time, and he testified to all this under oath. Reporters asked why the Dallas PD said. camera and the FBI said light meter. There wasn't a good answer. So Jay Edgar. Hoover sent orders to the Dallas office. Find that camera. And the next day,

[music] someone did. Michael Payne. The next day, Michael Payne handed the. FBI a minox micro camera. He said it was. his and was in the garage the whole time. in a coffee can. Michael said the police. weren't interested in a spy camera found. in a house occupied by a defector's. Russian wife. His spy camera was in a. coffee can, of course. Right next to the.

microfilm in a sugar bowl and a cyanide. in a spice rack. >> And the serial number on Michael's. camera had five digits. The Minox. Corporation said their cameras had six. [music] digits. And the serial number is. important. It's how Minox could trace a. camera's manufacturer date and origin. A. five-digit number makes it untraceable. The Warren Commission had the pains. under oath for days. Nobody asked them. one question about that camera. The. rifle, the photos, the translations, the. spy camera, and the job that put Oswald. in that window. Every one of those.

things ran through Ruth Payne's house. Even Oswald's mother said she believed. both Marina and Ruth Payne were. involved. Somehow, the family at the. center of the evidence was never treated. as part of the case. And here's the. thing, the FBI was already looking at. the pains. Twice in the weeks before the. assassination, an agent stopped by. He. was keeping tabs on the defector's wife. who lived there. The bureau had a file. open on Lee Harvey Oswald before a. single shot was fired. So when the shots. came, every phone line that touched.

Oswald's world became a live wire and. the FBI started listening. On the. afternoon of the assassination, Michael. Payne called Ruth from work. He said he. felt sure Oswald killed the president, but he didn't feel Oswald was. responsible. And then came the next. sentence. >> We both know who is responsible for the. assassination. When commission lawyers asked Michael. about this, he denied saying it and the. call never appeared in the war report. It was reduced to a few sentences in an.

FBI file called commission document 206. And in that [music] file, the source was. redacted. The names of the people on the. call were redacted, just a male voice. and a female voice. The phone numbers. were not identified. For more than a. decade, we both know who was. responsible. That quote only lived in. that buried report. When the files were. opened in the 1970s, it was revealed. that it was in fact Michael and Ruth. Payne on that call. Something else was missing from the. Warren report. In all 26 volumes, all.

888 pages, poor Rich, the round table, and the nine didn't appear once, but. they should have. The seance world was. closer to the commission than anyone. knew. One of the seven commissioners was. former director of the CIA and longtime. villain on this channel, Alan Dulles. Dulles should not have been on that. commission [music] for a few reasons. One, Kennedy fired him. After the Bay of. Pigs, Kennedy said he wanted to quote, "Shatter the CIA into a thousand pieces.

and scatter into the winds." He believed. Dulles wanted to drag the US into a war. with Cuba, which they tried over and. over. So Dulles was out. And there's. another reason Dulles had no business. being on the commission. He had a. secret. During the war, he ran a spy in. Switzerland, Mary Bankraftoft. She was. his agent and she was his mistress. And. for more than 40 years, Mary Bankro's. best friend was Ruth Forbes [music]. Payne Young. They traveled together. They vacation together. >> Hold on, hold on, hold on. The.

commission spy girlfriend's best friend. is the seance lady whose son had the. rifle in his garage. >> Those are the facts. >> I've seen tighter plots on vertical. dramas. >> You watch those? >> Guilty pleasure. Hat is welcome. While Dulles sat on the commission, Bankrooft wrote him a letter reminding. him how well she knew Michael Payne's. mother. That letter wasn't in the report. either. It was found 40 years later. The. man Kennedy fired had the files on the. family that housed this killer. The.

files on the family of his mistress's. best friend. And 14 years later, someone. started burning the files. On September 5th, 1976, George Demorilt. wrote a letter to the director of the. CIA begging for help. He said, "Vigilantes [music]. surrounded his family. Their phone was. tapped. They were followed everywhere. >> Either FBI is involved in this [music].

or they do not want to accept my. complaints. We are driven to insanity by the. situation. I tried to write stupidly and. unsuccessfully about Lee H. Oswald and. must have angered a lot of people. I do. not know. But to punish an elderly man. like myself and my highly nervous and. sick wife is really too much. Could you do something to remove the net.

around us? >> The director read the letter and he. [music] recognized the name. His prep. school roommate was Demor Shield's. nephew. And in Deor Schult's own address. book, there was an entry for an old. [music] friend, Bush. George HW Poppy. The director of the CIA was George Bush. Bush's staff asked how well he knew the. writer. Bush said he knew the man since. the 1940s. Then in a memo, he added a. strange sentence. >> I do know this man, Demoren Shield. I.

don't recall his role in all this. I. don't recall is politician for I recall. vividly but not until I have counsel. present. >> and Bush wrote back to George Demorelt. >> In your situation, I can well imagine. how the attentions you described in your. letter affect both you and your wife. However, my staff has been unable to. find any indication of interest in your. activities on the part of federal. authorities in recent years. I can only. speculate that you may have become.

newsworthy again in view of the renewed. interest in the Kennedy assassination. and thus may be attracting the attention. of people in the media. Two months after that, George tried to. take his own life four times. His wife. got so scared that she had him. committed. Doctors put him through. electroshock therapy and released him at. the end of 1976. In March 1977, journalist Edward Epste went to Palm. Beach to interview him. They met at the. Breakers Hotel for breakfast. That's. when George finally admitted his CIA.

contact JWalt Moore put him on Oswald. >> I would never have contacted Oswald in a. million years if Moore had not. sanctioned it. Too much was at stake. >> The friendship was real. The assignment. was too. They took a break for lunch. Epstein went back to his room. They were. scheduled to pick things back up at 3. That same morning, congressional. investigator Gayton Fonza drove to. George's house. >> His name is Fans. >> Yep.

>> Cool name. >> George wasn't home. Fona left his card. with George's daughter. >> George came back at 2:00. He saw the. card and went upstairs. Almost 40. minutes later, his daughter found him. He apparently shot himself with a. shotgun. But six people were in that house, and. not one of them heard a shotgun go off. But a maid had a tape recorder going. She was recording a soap opera. On the. tape, you hear a single blast at 221, then the sound of a gun hitting the. floor. And George wasn't the only.

witness connected to JFK, who turned up. dead, or didn't turn up at all. Chicago. mob boss Sham Junko was shot in his. kitchen before he could testify about. the CIA's plots against Castro. Mobster. Johnny Rosselli went missing and turned. up in an oil drum. And ex- cop, Richard. Kaine, was linked to the mob and the. CIA. He was also killed in Chicago in a. sandwich shop. Hail Bogs was a. congressman on the Warren Commission. He. publicly criticized the Warren report. and called for a new investigation in. the 1970s. He disappeared in a small.

plane over Alaska in 1972. The wreckage. was never found. And a year and a half after Palm Beach, the Lab 9 estate burned down. Decades of. Poor's files went up with it along with. the family dog. He didn't talk to the. police, but later he wrote he believed. it was the CIA. Then poor Rich went into. hiding. He died in 1995 after a fall. down a staircase. By the end of the 1970s, the JFK.

witnesses were all dead and everyone in. Poridge's world lost their jobs, their. reputations, and their funding. Some. people lost their minds. Every person in. the Council of Nine and every person who. could name them was gone. This is one of those stories where the. true parts are strange enough without. any help. So, let's separate what. happened from what didn't. The seances. happened. The round table was real and.

so is that donor list. Kurich's. assignment to find a drug that enhances. ESP is true. The nine are a different. story. Everything from inside that. copper room comes through one man. the. aliens, the predictions, the equations. Nobody else saw any of it. And poor Rich. didn't write about it until 1974. After JFK, after the Warren Report, after the Pays got famous. [music]. Either nine aliens predicted history or. one man made up a story to claim a piece. of it. Now, Geller's 10 for 10 really.

happened in front of witnesses, but he's. been controversial for years. But the. CIA wrote about him that he demonstrated. his paranormal perceptual ability in a. convincing and unambiguous manner. But. that wasn't good enough to keep Stargate. running. The program was eventually shut. down because it wasn't yielding valuable. results. But that's also being debated. What happened in Dallas is different. There are records. There are witnesses. There's connections. A lot of. connections. Too many connections to. explain away as coincidence. Lee Harvey.

Oswald got a job at Daily Plaza over a. month before the president's route was. announced. That's either a coincidence. or he knew something. Now, I leaned. toward you knew something, but until we. have all the JFK files, all we can do is. speculate, which we love to do. Now, it's true that everything ran through. RuP's house, but she was never charged, and she said for 60 years she was just. helping a friend. She's still around. today, and she sticks by that story, and. please leave her alone. The spy camera. turned up in the FBI's own files. Then,

it became a light meter. The police. receipt says camera, and FBI signed. [music] it. The property clerk admitted. he changed the paperwork when the viewer. asked him to. And Hoover's teletypes. about this still [music] exist. Skeptics will say the camera appears on. the Friday list, but the bag wasn't. searched until Saturday. Maybe someone. confused a camera case for a camera, but. a camera case doesn't hold film. [music]. And Gus Rose opened it and found a roll. inside. >> He said so under oath, and he never.

wavered. [music]. None of it makes anyone a spy, but it's. one more thing that ran through that. garage that got rewritten on paper. That. phone call happened. The Warren report. didn't have much to say about it, and. without an actual recording, Michael. Payne is innocent until proven guilty, but it's another uncomfortable detail. George Demoren Shield confessed, but he. was dying and he was paid for his story. So, the confession is not solid, but he. was a CIA informant at the time. MJ Walt. Moore denied that, but the classified. files show George really was reporting.

to the CIA. The CIA denied a lot of. things about JFK, and they still do. I. don't think George was killed, but the. uncomfortable connections are there. Dulles is the real problem with all of. this. His mistress's best friend was all. over the story and was never. investigated. That's not a confession, but it proves the Warren report was. incomplete at best and corrupt at worst, and everything [music] flows from that. Bella should have never been on that. commission, and I'll never stop saying. it. Dead mobsters happen. Were they.

connected to JFK? Maybe. Was the mob. connected to the CIA? Absolutely. But. the one death that should bother you is. the dead congressman, the guy from the. commission, Hail Bogs. His plane. vanished over Alaska. Now, that's a. place where planes vanish, but it would. be nice to have some closure on that, but no wreckage, no closure. Puridge's. house really was set on fire while he. was away. His kids were home, but they. got out in time. Their dog was really. killed, and his notes were lost. [music].

But he published before the fire. So, here's what we're left with. An ordinary. explanation. Wealthy families are. connected. They're connected with each. other, with the government, and with the. intelligence community. Wealthy people. cluster. >> Oh, sure. They cluster around seances, the CIA, and the guy who shot the. president. My poker buddies cluster. around TV, warm light beer, and. somebody's wife's meatballs. >> You have a point, but correlation is not. conspiracy. >> Yeah, and it ain't exculpatory either, counselor. Clearing someone to guilt.

>> I know what it means, but that doesn't explain the pattern. The same people kept appearing around. psychic research, military money, the. pains, Oswald, and the CIA. I didn't. even get into the Mory Island UFO. connection to JFK, but I have a whole. episode on that. More names like Fred. Chrisman and Guy Banister. More people. connected to New Orleans. All connected. to the CIA, all connected to the mob, and the death of a president. Coincidences are not a conspiracy until. they are. The alien gods weren't real.

The nine people were. They had the. money, the connections, and the power to. change the world. And nobody could prove. they didn't. There are people out there. right now sitting around a table. deciding who lives and who dies. Deciding which elected leaders are. inconvenient, deciding what stories. you're allowed to hear. It doesn't. matter if you're a mobster, a strip. [music] club owner, or the president of. the United States. If you become a. problem, you go away. But nobody at a table like that thinks. they're a villain. They think they're.

chosen. A god, a flag, a voice in the. dark. Something always gives powerful. people permission. And once they have. it, the ordinary rules don't apply to. them. The people at the table change, but there's never an empty seat. [music]. >> Thank you so much for hanging out today. My name is AJ. You know, hacklefish. >> Word to the wise. If [music] your new. best friend speaks fluent mink and keeps. driving you to job interviews, ask for.

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inside the Bible [singing] said I would. I [music] love my UFOs and paranormal. fun as well as music [music]. songs like I should. But then another [music] conspiracy. theory becomes the truth my friends. and it never [music and singing] ends. No, it never ends. [music].

I feel the crap [music] cat I got stuck. inside M's home with MK out of being. only twoear. [music]. Did Stanley Cubrick fake the moon. landing alone on a film set? I would. shadow [music] people there. The Roswell alas just fought the [music]. smiling man I'm told and his name was.

cold and I can't [music] agree I'm. dancing with the fish and the fish on. Thursday night. all through the night. I never wanted [music] to hear the. truth. The world will never be all. through the night.

[music]. [music] The math man sightings and the. solar storm still come to a gather. [music] the secret city underground. Mysterious number stations planet circle. to [music] project star gave and where. the dark watchers found.

in [music] a simulation. Don't you worry. though the black night satellite over. [music]. me. Oh, I can't believe I'm dancing with. the fish and [music] your fish on. Thursday night. you and my family through the night. I am a [music]. hearing. all through the night.

[music]. That's when they change you and my. [singing]. [music]. truth. The one of the. night [music]. [music].

loves to dance. to dance [music]. because she is a camel. Can't love dance. when the feeling is right on. time. [music]. [music].

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