The Joe Rogan Experience | #330

how many cigars are you smoking now. what a show. no more than one no more than one more. than 100 sick is it is do you get any. nicotine from it oh yeah you do yeah for. sure everybody does interesting that's. why they smoke cigars they don't just. smoke it for the taste right that's. stupid that makes sense but you don't.

inhale no but you do the the tobacco is. you know it's pure tobacco and you're. getting that in your mouth and you're. getting the nicotine in your mouth until. you get a buzz yeah 100 yeah 100 we were. even considering Ari and I were smoking. cigars once in the beginning of sober. October we're like are we cheating I. kind of feel like we're cheating I feel. like I'm getting kind of high. you get high from cigars 100 interesting. it's just a different kind of high it's. a it's a nice conversational high it's.

right relaxed it's similar to cigarettes. where you don't get you're not [ __ ] up. but cigarettes do provide like a relief. or a release whatever that is whatever. that nicotine is why is nicotine so. addictive. it's not that addictive I mean um I like. it but I can like like if I uh was. smoking a vape pen a lot I was doing it. every day and then I just took it off. and just didn't do it for a week and I. just stopped craving it totally but.

maybe that's just me you're you have a. constitution it's it's easier for you. you're very disciplined. other people struggle with that there's. other people that cannot. do that cigarettes are tough I've given. up ever I've given up cocaine alcohol. pills marijuana I've not done a drug in. 12 years but cigarettes are time and I. haven't smoked now for two months but. did one day in the near future and I. don't know when someone's gonna give you.

a cigarette they're not even going to. give it to me they just reach for it I'm. going to request it and you know spark. it out I'm gonna have a cigarette and. then I'm just going to be sitting. somewhere having a cigarette not knowing. how yeah not knowing how it happened. wouldn't it be awesome if they were good. for you it would be amazing. it would be a man well I love that scene. from sleeper Woody Allen movie where you. know he they freeze him and he wakes up. and they go uh he goes they go what he.

goes what should I eat for breakfast. take a red meat eggs and cigarettes and. he goes what he goes no it's all good. for you he goes everything we thought. was bad for you it was like great for. you it's like chocolates have some. chocolate cake it was like it's such a. great scene well they're right about red. meat yes some of it's correct right. I think the sugar industry because. they're behind a lot of the fat activism. stuff are they really oh yeah so if you. look at it you know a lot of the uh. people that go listen there's no. different because you know they just had. this article the LA uh School District. was like don't tell kids that like junk.

food's bad because it's classist and. racist or whatever. it's Insanity like don't tell them. there's any difference between foods and. what you know and it's all linked to. this like be always body positive no. matter what and a lot of that is backed. by like Nestle well I know there was. some body positive people that were on. social media that they found out were. getting backed by Nestle or one of those. companies yeah yeah and they they were. promoting the idea that there's no. difference in foods and there's no junk.

food and it's all about your mental. health and yeah and you mentally healthy. apparently eating just ice cream on a. couch but it's all of it it's so. unscientific and the fact that that. doesn't get fact checked online is so. crazy right you can say you know. something about covid or something about. something else and you'll immediately. get that little Banner ether post. that'll tell people that what you're. saying well they always use some example. of like a person who's robust a little.

chubby and go this person's healthy and. then they'll always Point like a skinny. heroin addict and go this person isn't. yeah and you go yeah but that's not. the overall yeah you know thing yeah. even if you're even if you're. like 50 60 pounds overweight and I fit. yeah you're still less healthy than you. of course if you weren't 50 60 pounds. overweight I think some of it is that. there was a weird period when I was. growing up where all the models were. like sickly thin yeah where they were.

like gaunt they wanted them to be like. hangers they didn't really want them to. be half bodies well it was like the. Balenciaga thing right that came up with. the kids where it was like this is. creepy and they're weird and of course. you probably saw that like that weird. advertisement where it's like kids have. these BDSM Bears these bears that are. dressed up at like leather daddies and. kids have them and and people with. fashion have always been creepy and. weird because like when I was growing up. the 90s it was heroin Chic and they made. all these young girls look like they. were strung out junkies so it's like.

they've always been kind of off well. don't they kind of promote amphetamines. to a lot of those gals I hope so no yes. uh. but you can't be against fat activism. and against amphetamine like right. somebody's you know. um no they do I'm sure they promote well. fashion is all about sexual currency. like everybody asked me about how you. know they talk about Hollywood what I. think I'm like Hollywood's run on like. sex appeal I'm like not the one I'm in.

I'll tell you right are you in Hollywood. though yeah I have no idea I have a. house there but like the this idea that. like people talk about Hollywood like. it's just one thing and they're like. it's run on sexual currency I'm like. yeah not the lineup at The Improv you. know like not the lineup of The Comedy. Store that was Roseanne is right there's. a lot of people where it was yeah but. like yeah those fat because all of these. human trafficking people they love their. like hooks into fashion like really oh. yeah so John Luke Burnell who is the guy.

that you know was like a big Epstein. Confidant and Associate was like a high. level fashion photographer and it makes. sense because like you're they're. recruiting these girls when they're. young and they're impressionable and. they're like you know hey here's this. guy and just laying back like here's so. if you want good looking people you're. probably not gonna to go to a comedy. club right you're going to go to a. modeling shoot yeah not that there are. good looking Comics but I mean like.

young impressionable good-looking people. are found in modeling so I think that's. why a lot of them it is a bizarre job. it's a really strange and you like. what's the woman's name that was married. to Tom Brady Gisele Bundchen she's worth. more than him. well yeah how just by being hot just by. being hot isn't that amazing it's huge. greatest quarterback of all time in the. biggest game yeah in all of North. America right and a woman just by virtue.

of being pretty right wins she wins she. wins well and she's like I'm done with. this guy he keeps wanting to play. football yeah but now you're looking at. it's changing it's changing we're pretty. now like if you're a model I mean they. things that the look is changing right I. mean it's there it's a lot of bigger. people and it's a lot of not as pretty. people or not traditionally pretty so. yeah it's not all changing but there's. some you can't deny nature you can't a.

hundred percent nature is it's all about. well there was no fat activism on. Epstein's Island you know what I mean. like he was not maybe there was I mean. there's I mean I don't think he was like. concerned with diversity like the you. know the people that are purveyors of. just people's looks are just you know. maybe he had a request list he might. have who knows. right you know it's yeah like you fill. out a questionnaire yeah you know like. you fill out a questionnaire like the. spoke post the question is there's been.

people like that that have been sex. trafficking forever yes but it's. shocking to people that it's going on. now they're like what still but here's. yeah it's it there is sex trafficking. for sure but there's also like I was I. was in Romania I did a Bitcoin Guy. brought me over there to do his um. birthday party didn't you hang out with. Andrew Taylor I did I did 20 minutes of. comedy and I it bombed because it was. people weren't really speaking English. and the ones that could didn't love me.

so some of them liked me and one guy. pointed at me and just yelled Joe Rogan. because he had seen me on this some. Russian crazy guy just got it for the. middle of the set went Rhoda got Joe. Rogan and then sat down and they like. brought him out it's it was insane and. but they paid me a lot of money to do it. and then there was you know there's only. one person there to really interview and. it was Andrew taste I went to his house. and he's a lovely guy here's the thing. about him and his brother they are. lovely people whether they're human.

traffickers or not they're lovely people. I'm not for human trafficking but they. took us out for a steak dinner and there. was women there and a lot of the women. were quiet and I thought they were just. quiet. that would be my story if I'm called to. test if I would go the women were quiet. and they were obedient and many of them. looked at the floor but really yeah yeah. it was but it's eastern Europe Joe. that's kind of the way they act and. coming from America was a little bit of. a nice change of pace we stunned. no I mean come in for this nice comment.

yeah we stunned when he got arrested. it wasn't stunning it wasn't still like. when eventually I smoke another. cigarette would I be stunned that I have. a cigarette in my hand no I wasn't. stunned that he got arrested it was. surprising to me because listen people. say things about somebody and you hope. that they're not true right because he. has some wacky opinions but he has some. opinions that I would say are probably. you know pretty pretty reasonable and.

interesting and interesting that people. should you know stop being victims and. go out and work and figure stuff out and. that you know they're they this world. does leave you out in many cases and you. have to figure a way around things right. he calls it the Matrix or whatever but. like you have to be pretty like. resilient. um I think some of those messages are. good I think some of his stuff is funny. and over the top but you clearly don't. want this to be true you'd never want uh. you know this to be true and I hope it's.

not true. um they think it's true I mean. is Romania corrupt yes it's corrupt it's. a Soviet you know Eastern Bloc country. where I think a lot of people get paid. off I think Tate even talked about that. it was kind of a corrupt country and. that people just kind of paid each other. off and like I think it's just the way a. lot of those Eastern European countries. work where you know America's corruption. is is and you know Tate you know kind of. made this point right American. corruption is a big deal corruption. billionaires right you got to be you.

have a lot of money to play the game you. got to have the you know serious capital. in places like that you know you don't. have to be a billionaire to influence. things you can have a small business and. have enough money to be like you're in. the game you pay you pay people off to. get the business open and then you pay. people off to keep the business safe and. I think it's kind of maybe the way. America worked in the 70s before. corporations owned everything hmm it's.

what it seems like but again I only. spent why did he move to Romania he. isn't he from the UK yes well um that's. certainly not a great. part of his defense is that he's living. in Romania he did live there his. attitude was I live here because I like. the freedom to do what I want. um but some of his detractors would say. that it's easier to get away with stuff. there he's even kind of said that you. can kind of do what you want you can.

kind of do what you want now maybe that. means driving your car fast also it. might mean you know human trafficking I. don't know that's all he runs the gamut. but you can get away it's it's a weird. place to live if you could choose to. live anywhere it's an interesting place. to live the people were lovely. um you know have you ever thought of. where you'd live outside of the United. States. I mean I probably have to go back with. my people in Ireland I think we all have. to go to our people I mean you'd go to. Italy we have to go to our people no. yeah.

I think. I go to my people and they're just. laying around eating I know maybe I'll. go to your people they stopped they. stopped building Cathedrals and well my. people are drinking but I mean I guess. you I mean I don't know if I'd go to. Brazil or something I think you know. I've been an island I've performed in. Dublin and it's kind of like I don't. know you feel I don't know that I'd ever. live outside of the U.S but you do feel. like a little bit of a kinship do you. feel any of that when you go back to. Italy not too much okay no I enjoy it I. enjoy their way of life I enjoy the way.

they behave I like Ireland they're all. tortured they're tortured you you gotta. see the new movie The Band she's even. sharing yeah it's really good it's the. crew from In Bruges it's amazing it's. like Colin Farrell Brenda Gleason Martin. McDonough direct it's really good and. they shoot in Galway Ireland Ireland's. beautiful it's beautiful it's not. raining yeah when it's not raining it's. beautiful yeah but yeah but the people. there you know it's it's a very. different lifestyle than America so I. don't know that I could ever do it but I. don't know where would you go.

well the only reason why I'd go is. there's some horrible [ __ ] went down the. United States and what are the chances. of that it's just. I mean if [ __ ] if like Manhattan gets. hit with a nuke right that's not a good. sign no and that's when you have to. really think oh my god do I stay here. right if La gets hit with a nuke it's. like uh. they deserve it you know you go well you. know. as long as I'm not there I'd be like uh. I would be sad I would text Andy.

Letterman like love you goodbye yeah but. yeah but Manhattan gets hit with the new. because New York's the nerve center of. the country so if that gets hit we're in. trouble isn't that weird that New York's. the nerve center not really if you've. been there well because it's number one. it was before America it was a Dutch fur. training Outpost it was a Marketplace. but in America is a capitalist country. so the the everything's about Commerce. and New York predates America right it. goes back to the 1600s those are really. oh yeah New York it was New Amsterdam. you know before oh that's wrong yeah.

before America became anything. um and um it's just the best city we. have it's the best we can do as a. country now not everyone's going to want. to live in a place like New York it's. expensive you live on top of each other. but it's got the best of everything when. you when you think about you know all of. the things that a country can do New. York probably does them all the best for. what we can do as America food yeah I. mean everything like that education I. mean all the big companies a lot of them.

are headquartered there it's kind of. Market yeah it's an amazing City you. have this amazing diverse population of. people that all become kind of New. Yorkers and all kind of meld together it. it's it's a real City you know what's. great about it before the crime really. really upticked crime's not helping the. the thing was great that you would be. around everybody would just like from. all walks of life would walk on the. streets together and ride the subway. together it's like there's a real.

mixture of people whereas in Los Angeles. people are just in their cars Los. Angeles is an isolating and lonely place. where everybody's out for the same thing. which is Fame yeah and if they're not. out for they're out to capitalize if. they're not out for it even the doctor. in Los Angeles will brag about his. celebrity clients right like you're. going to Los Angeles in many cases to to. build something right you want and you. know it's it becomes it's not a. community in the way that New York is. New York feels more like a community and.

you get the best of everything so you. have people in New York that are like. going to be the best Architects or the. best chefs or you know maybe the best. baseball players or the best whatever. you know and you you put them all. together and like there's Excellence all. around even the buildings when you look. at the buildings in New York you go you. know Emery Roth or you know all these. great Architects Henry hardenberg built. a Dakota where Landon lived or the plaza. like you're just around this amazing. architecture some of it's been around. for hundreds of years and it inspires. you and you feel great I was watching. this online piece about this lady who.

pretended to be a billionaire so that. she could go to all the different places. that were being sold yeah and so she. could take photos of their views yeah. but it was a really interesting. perspective no one should have this kind. of money no one should have this. interesting well how do you stop that. you cap their money you can't stop it. and I was also like I've been doing that. too going to places I can't afford. looking at them but I don't take the. tactic no one should have that kind of. money you take the tact one day I I look. at it and go I'd like this kind of money. yes.

um I think that there's a limit where. money doesn't make you happy but it is. nice to have and this idea that you know. there is a new generation of people. coming up where fulfillment is the main. thing which I understand and that's good. but I also think at the end of the day. like you know we shouldn't lie about the. fact that like. being you know working and like getting. the benefits of earning a living that. you can be comfortable with is good and.

you're not always going to be happy all. the time yeah not yeah every job you. have you're not going to love right I. think a lot of young kids coming up. right now are like I need to be inspired. at every moment of the day or I need to. be really and it's like there's a lot of. [ __ ] jobs that you do and you don't. realize why you do them until you get to. the next thing and then you go oh I. learned something in that job that I. didn't realize I needed well money. doesn't make you happy but it does. relieve desperation and Desperation. makes you sad that's true that the.

desperation the the desperation of not. knowing if you're going to be able to. pay your bills and that pressure and. stress of it I clearly remember when I. got my first development deal and I got. money in the bank and I just like it was. like a weight of like a physical weight. had lifted off my shoulders because For. the first time in my life I didn't worry. about how I was going to pay the rent. and that was interesting because I was. like that is what year was that 93 and. that was the first time you took a. breath yeah yeah I was like wow this is.

what this feels like it's hard. especially with comedy because when you. start there's not a lot of money for a. while no you're barely getting by you. got no health insurance you know you're. getting a couple hundred bucks here a. couple hundred bucks there you're trying. to scratch together a living pay your. rent pay your bills pay your gas bill. yeah and when you get done you know with. the week and you pay all the stuff you. know you don't have anything left and. that's how you're living you live in. hand to mouth yeah and you're always. wondering like am I gonna fill my books. so I can get enough road work so I can.

pay everything and you know you don't. know where it's going to go and then. getting a big check I got a big check. from Disney of all people and uh oh I. started going to restaurants eating nice. I was like this is my manager actually. thought I had a gambling problem yeah. because he saw what you were spending. yeah no I'm eating out right. it's. interesting when you when you transition. from from being.

anxious about that stuff to at least. having a taking a breath and going. it's a huge Advantage yeah it's a big. Advantage you can focus more on being. creative but the hunger is good too yeah. the hunger of not knowing where you're. going and what's going to happen that. fuels people but it doesn't fuel. everybody some people don't have the. Constitution for it and [ __ ] them up. yeah so many of the Articles you read. now are about how they're they seem to. be preparing people to live with less. going you don't need to own anything.

you'll be happy that's all World. economic Forum no I know I know it's. shitty that's true nonsense but it's. also because people don't have anything. that's right and when they don't have. anything and they see people who have. things they think there's something. wrong with those people there's no way. they did it the right way those people. are all criminals yeah like there's this. attitude that people have when they're. poor when they look at people that are. wealthy like those people are evil. there's no way they're not evil which is. ridiculous it's ridiculous because if. you got a job that paid more money and. you kept working up and you got more and.

more money and you're the same [ __ ]. person now all of a sudden you're. wealthy are you evil now right did you. do do this by subjugating people did you. do this by stealing no well there's such. a vast Chasm of like intelligence too. right so you have like brilliant people. and then you have people that are you. know they're just kind of struggling and. I think that like sometimes even. understanding the world that we live in. and even understanding how to make money. right or is difficult for a lot of. people right there is also a lot of. [ __ ] and a lot of corruption like.

sometimes bad people get a lot of money. but that's just the way it is there's. bad people without a lot of money you. know yeah but it's just understanding. how to make money is difficult I think. for a lot of people because you don't. learn anything about money in school you. know you go through 18 years of school. you don't hear the word credit card. interest rate I mean it's kind of. amazing you know you get some basic. economics courses in high school but. like the consumer economy like the. things you would need to learn you just. don't learn a ton about that all right. how much did I discuss with you about.

how student loans you yeah have to pay. back no matter what yeah not really if. you go bankrupt yeah they're not really. like you know maybe they're doing it. more now but like if they leave out this. stunning amount of information that you. would need and I think a lot of people. you know are are you know you very smart. people that can tell you all about. history or whatever you know and I've. been one like a person who like I. remember one of the first credit cards I. got it had like a 200 activation fee and. the limit was like 250. this was years.

ago I tried to use it at a restaurant. they're like this and I'm like this is. impossible it had to go through I just. got it and it literally I looked it was. a 200 activation fee and I only had 50. whatever dollars available credit like. you get in that system and you [ __ ]. yourself it's hard to get out of it I. know a lot of people did that when they. were struggling they got into credit. card debt and the interest rate keeps. going up and. then you get under you're only paying. the minimum amount every month so just. like the the actual chunk of money that.

you owe doesn't really shrink what's. good about America is there's no debtors. prison so you can declare bankruptcy. that is less that is unless you have. student loans that's the one thing. that'll get you on but I'm always I tell. people all the time just declare. bankruptcy and just let it go. Let It Go yeah but if you let the. student loans go you can't let the. student loans go but I say don't even go. to school like it's what are you even. doing in college I mean when you think. about it what is every story coming out.

of an American University is like some. insane it's like they've they're holding. the teacher at gunpoint now because she. said you know something nice about. Colombia like I don't even understand. what anyone's learned unless you're like. a finance guy I'm going to Princeton or. your Tech person you're going to. Stanford but these low-level mid-tier. schools do we need them I mean they're. just they exist for like football and. it's fun you have fun you go get [ __ ]. up for four years you enjoy yourself but.

like do you really. I don't know what you get out of it and. it depends on what you're trying to do. if you just want an education you just. want to have more information and you're. not thinking about using it as a career. yeah which nobody does right but if you. did that you you could learn some things. in college and if you wanted to be a. doctor well that's the way to do it if. you want to be a lawyer that's the way. to do it you have to go through. University but we don't need more of. them like we don't need more doctors we. don't need more lawyers and in in terms. of doctors we probably don't need more. doc we have enough doctors.

in terms of like you know you know we. have a lot of doctors we have every kind. of doctor we have plastic surgeons we. have all kinds of it's like it's you. know especially because yeah but they. die off. that's good point I guess I mean they're. not gonna keep refreshing population but. if you're not gonna be a doctor you're. not gonna be like a lawyer it's stem. yeah we've got a few people doing. engineering most people are just in. marketing people go I'm in business Mark.

you've ever talk to kids they're like. I'm a business they have no idea what's. going on they don't know what to do. they're filled with hormones they're. partying outside their house for the. first time living in dorms yeah getting. late it's a good experience yes it's a. fun experience I never had it I went to. Community College and I dropped out to. start selling subprime mortgages so I. regret not going to college but I like. my journey was meaningful too but yeah I. regret it I regret not going kind of. what do you regret about it the. experience that you would have had in a.

college where you're living on your own. with everyone your age. but I think I I you know my life would. have been very different had I done that. I don't know but it might have been. different probably so I think though the. life I had was was good because I I love. comedy I like what I do and I think it's. good to go through crazy [ __ ] and have. it be funny but I think. a college experience is interesting if. you make the most of it you ever think. about what life would be like if you. didn't do comedy.

yeah I do like during the pandemic how. long did you go without doing comedy I. think I was doing the podcast every week. but I did uh you know when they shut it. down in March. and then I think the first time I was on. stage might have been. you know. I did a comedy club Vinnie brand in in. New Jersey opened up the stress Factory. outside and he had an entire outside. theater tent he had a tent and I don't. know when I did that but I did it and it.

might have been three or four months. maybe it was five months I don't know I. don't know I can't remember exact might. have been longer than that but it was. weird yeah you thought about it you're. like what would I do well what was weird. to me was when it seemed like there was. a possibility that we could never go. back to doing it again right the first. few months I was like what if it just. stays like that what if it stays like no. shows ever again right and I just have. this distant memory of what it's like to. do stand up because it is the best thing. the internet's fun but it's like being. in a room with real people that are live.

you need that human connection yeah it's. a great time because some of the. YouTubers that never are around people. like it's a little weird oh yeah like. the people whose entire interactions. with everyone in life is just on the. internet you can you can look at them. you go there's something off when you. talk to them like they're kind of like. they always hate that they're not online. like when you talk to some of them in. real life they're kind of like they want. to be in front of a computer screen. that's where they're most comfortable. yeah and there's something they're. accustomed to it's what they're.

accustomed to and it's a little sick but. for me I I love that I grew up without. that and now we have it but I like that. I didn't grow up in front of that school. yeah well I personally it definitely. does something about your Social. Development and there was a an article. recently about how it affects children's. brains in a measurable way like this. connection to social media yeah it's. undeniable if you're if you're not. interacting with people for the most. part and you're most of the time like if.

your job is to be a streamer right and. the more you stream the more money you. make and you're streaming all day your. connection with humans has got to be. very strange and different than anybody. that's ever existed before yeah it's. very interesting because you are. interacting with people yes but you're. not interacting with anybody in person. right A lot of it is just you putting. something out out there and then people. reacting to think you put out there it's. almost like sending a messenger pigeon. it's very interesting it's definitely a. unique. vantage point where because you look.

also dealing with people online that a. lot of them are Anonymous a lot of them. are kind of you know it's different than. it would be if they were in front of you. yeah speaking to you face to face you. know people are you know really either. you're trolling or they have their guard. down they're saying whatever they want. to say some of them are being completely. honest some of them are just trying to. have fun some you know yeah so you you. get to see like you know maybe the best. and worst I don't know it's interesting. well you get to see what people are like. in the back of their mind without social. interaction without communicating with.

people you get to see like this little. the little base thoughts that people. have right shitty ideas that people have. about other people and just right just. the shitty ideas they have about. themselves right it's astounding to me. how many people like when I go on social. media if I just randomly scroll through. Twitter how many people talk about their. mental health and how bad they're meant. yes it's it's well it's because I talk a. lot about it on stage now you know. having a mother who's mentally ill. genuinely right and I don't mean that.

other people you know that obviously. mental illness is it's running rampant. but it does also seem like there's a. difference between the mental illness my. mother has where she's a schizophrenic. genuine skit you know she didn't. diagnose herself on Instagram she's. genuinely she's in an institution she. cannot live in a you know I think that's. different than like you know for example. you know depression and depression is a. very bad thing but there's clinical. depression there's also situational. depression right some of the things that.

you're doing or eating or being whatever. you know how do you discern it's hard. what's the cause though it's very. difficult because when someone is. diagnosed with clinical depression but. then you look at their actual lifestyle. and you look at what they're doing and. what's fulfilling about their life. you're like well of course you're. depressed some people clean that up yeah. how much of it would affect like I don't. want to be dismissive of people with. yeah chemical Impressions because I know. people that have it yes and I know. people that have taken antidepressants. and have changed life and then they. weaned off of them and then they're.

infinitely better off than they were. before they took them yeah because they. were on the verge of suicide some people. have a chemical imbalance and some. people that can be corrected with. medicine some people really the. depression comes from a situation in. their life they can clear up some people. have anxiety because you know again they. they have this disorder but then there's. a lot of people that have anxiety. because like. you know maybe they're in a job they. hate yeah maybe they're in a bad. relationship and then there's some. people that just genetically their brain.

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just killed those you know I don't know. if he even killed them to Idaho guys. that's a [ __ ] crazy well it's weird. because for six weeks they were like we. don't have one lead and then everyone's. no no no no no no yeah they didn't talk. about it because you don't talk about it. when cops are investigating something. yeah I mean they do they vacuumed that. place looking for DNA they've got. genealogy DNA right so they mapped hit. the DNA to people that were related to. this guy crazy yeah so it's not that. they didn't have any leads they didn't.

share it well why would they because. it's entertaining for me I would like to. know I would like to know that guy. scares the [ __ ] out of me no there's. people like that they say people like. that the people that went to school with. him said that he went back when he went. back to school now that this is. obviously if he did it that he was. noticeably happier and noticeably had. more energy and more lively and. interacting with people well which is. [ __ ] creepy that's a really sick. person yeah well this is a guy that was.

studying criminal behavior and stuff I. mean he was that's crazy he came back. after and he was happier well that's. what they said but also this is hearsay. but this is also people that you know. know him and maybe they think he's a. creep and right you know who knows but. the idea that you could be have that in. your brain where you one day you could. just you could stalk these people or. whatever figure out how to murder people. and just go in kill these innocent.

people and leave and go to school the. next day like that is somebody's brain. that's [ __ ] there's no other way to. say it there's no other way to say it. there's no other way to say it and they. think there's just a certain percentage. of those people like there's a certain. percentage Association and I guess the. challenge is identifying them yeah. Psychopaths that's where the tax or. stuff comes in and you start to get. nervous about it because like they'll be. like well we want to start identifying. those types of people early it's like. yeah but that's almost you know you run. the risk there of you know drawing lines.

around a lot of people we're never going. to do that who are either goofy or funny. or silly or saying dumb [ __ ] online and. then you know you they're like death. metal yeah they like death metal. whatever they listen to my podcast or. whatever they don't want to hurt anybody. yeah they don't want to hurt people. um but at the end of the day it's like. that's where a lot of that Tech stuff. comes from they're like well we where we. gotta identify these like anti-social. people that's Minority Report yeah I. mean that's what it is that's pre-crime. pre-crime yeah that's scary [ __ ] it's.

scary it's scary also because like. there's people that at times in their. life like there was a guy who was on. this podcast. um you know John Bernthal the uh actor. yes break yeah yeah what an interesting. dude interesting like way different than. you know when people think of actors. they think of people that are insincere. this guy's the opposite of that he's. super sincere yeah really intelligent. really articulate very deep and. interesting guy and a really nice guy. too really really liked him but he was.

talking about this guy that he knew that. he interviewed that was. um he was going to blow up a mosque and. he went into this mod he had this hate. of Muslims after coming back from. overseas right from serving and um he. was going to blow up a mosque and he. went in there and he met this woman who. welcomed him into the mosque and he was. still totally intent on blowing her up. blowing everybody up she invited him. over her home for dinner he was still.

intent on it so he gets to know her and. his family completely change his course. becomes a devout Muslim. wow and then talked about the whole. experience about what his plans were and. that he didn't do it and now he's just. like very well that's like there was a. prison guard in Guantanamo Bay that. converted to. Islam he was a prison guard that's what. how you know you're losing the war. America uh by the way that's not a great. sign but he converted to Islam because. you know he struck up a friendship with.

a guy in the thing I think people are. looking for something and that gives. them purpose the intensity of belief is. always interesting to me and the people. and I get like you know Camille pagley. wrote an interesting article about Obama. and she goes he's such a brilliant guy. but one thing he doesn't seem to. understand is like the like religion he. doesn't understand the passion and. intensity of like belief systems because. he is so intelligent that he doesn't. seem to grasp that which motivates.

people like you know that is she how. does she know that though well she just. made comments on like the way he would. talk about religion I think this was. like after he made that comment like. people cling to their guns and their. Bibles or whatever and she was like I. don't think he fully you know. understands you know being a Harvard. educated guy like he doesn't fully. understand and you know that the the. religion provides a great comfort to. many people and an organizing principle. for their life right I do think that it.

can it can spill over into this you know. fervor that's unhealthy right and you. see that with you fundamentalist. religion everywhere where it's like. whether it's you're a Christian or. Muslim you know there is a certain you. know value to critical thinking and not. cult you know Behavior but yeah that's. interesting or a story like that where a. guy goes in to kill people and goes well. I want to be one of you and it's someone. who's looking for something something. yeah well obviously just the fact that. he wanted to go in there and blow the. mosque up he's obviously in a bad place. he's not in a good place and sometimes.

when people get involved in a really. rigid ideology a religion with a bunch. of other people that are committed they. feel a sense of community and purpose. and it gives them discipline and focus. and you know and you know the Islamic. faith is particularly rigid in that. regard yes and particularly devout a lot. of those faiths are if you follow the. letter of the law like in the Western. World a lot of our faiths have been. tempered by the types of governments we. have right so where we don't we have a. separation uh of religion and and uh you.

know government. um but in other parts of the world they. don't and um I think one of the problems. now and you're seeing this kind of. resurgence. of religion which I think could be good. it depends right on on the form it takes. but a lot of the the Western world is. kind people feel an emptiness now that. we've you know religion isn't big in. America but we haven't replaced it with. anything like people are still at the. end of the day trying to figure out why. are we here what are we doing here does.

anything happen when we die how should. we behave towards each other and we. haven't given them anything they had. this you know my grandparents would. devout cat my grandmother was devout. Catholic my grandfather was a devout. Catholic she was still a Democrat voted. she you know she was still like you know. not someone who you know but she went to. church all the time in her life and the. way she believed. um you know the we they were both you. know when they I was around both of them.

when they died. um. you couldn't find a more peaceful person. as they were dying because they believed. they believed like my grandfather when. he was diagnosed with cancer and they. said you don't have much left he said. like you know my kingdom is not of this. Earth he's like that's fine with me he. was really at peace uh my grandmother. too my grandmother said I've lived a. good life and you know well that's what. people want that's what people want they. want to be at peace yeah yeah it's very. hard to achieve peace in this world. especially if you're doing difficult. things yeah it's very hard it's very.

hard to the the just the battles you. have in your own mind but failure and. you know and everything that you're. doing in life just people that you. interact with the the chaos and you know. struggles and strife and and then the. why what is it all for if you don't have. a what is it all for it can get really. [ __ ] weird yeah and that I think that. not knowing that chaos people can't deal. with it. and it's easier maybe for people. that can block all that out and just go.

but I think a lot of people struggle. with that a lot of people use drugs to. block it out a lot of people use drugs a. lot of people like amphetamines right. because it just blocks it out. you just keep going and yeah your. purpose isn't going yeah you know yeah. it just kind of gets muted yeah it's. difficult it's difficult I think for a. lot of people to just make peace with. the idea that. the unknown yeah you know like we really. don't know like it you know I mean you.

could follow a system you can. try to be you know and that's where I. get some of that DMT [ __ ] that you that. helps people seem to people seem to come. back from some psychedelic experiences. and feel better about everything yes. yeah I definitely do yeah yeah that. definitely changed the way I look at. things yeah it's just the fact that. that's real that you can actually have. that experience everybody not know about. this how does how is this not promoted. yeah and obviously not for everybody. especially not for people who already.

have a slippery grasp on reality itself. that's a problem what's a big problem. with uh psychedelics and not not just. psychedelics but like milder. psychedelics like marijuana and people. with schizophrenia yeah that's what uh. Alex Berenson wrote about in his book uh. tell your children yeah it's a very. interesting book because a lot of people. that are pro-marijuana including myself. you know instinctively want to regret. reject this notion that it triggers. schizophrenia but it does I think it. might I think with some people I mean it. doesn't with me but I think some people.

that have a tendency or an inclination. towards that and they have like a really. heroic dose of Edibles or something like. that I've seen people crack I I know. multiple people in my life that have. gotten really [ __ ] up from weed and. got crazy and it's hard to know until. you've done it right it's it's basically. it's too late yeah like you know people. you know they smoke pot they want to. smoke pot and eventually like you know. maybe something is some underlying you. know Tendencies schizophrenia like that.

stuff just comes out they don't know and. a lot of them are smoking it all day. every day and so that's the reality the. real the way they interface with the. world is through cannabis like they're. they're too much it's probably but some. people are fine with it and then. everybody's on pills right I mean. there's the amount of people that are on. ssris or depression meds or anxiety I. mean it's it's a massive amount of. people a lot of people there's so much. money in it yeah just get vaccinated. stop with the pills just get a coveted. vaccine every four months you'll feel.

better about whatever's wrong will you. yeah I mean my aunt's on our ninth. booster and she feels great. she calls it gapis and I just got busted. ah she's great her eyes are blood red. she's you know I wonder if people get. addicted to doing it oh there's by the. way like they want to do it more often. we're going to read nervous we need an. article about the person who's gotten. vaccinated 100 times what's the personal. life that got vaccinated the most times. right now definitely somebody who's. gotten vaccinated way more than they.

should what's the number you think oh I. don't know like you know how like people. that are hooked on Oxys that go to a. different doctor especially before the I. had a friend who was he [ __ ] himself. up I forget what his injury was but he. got on oxy's in Texas and then he moved. to California and got on oxy's with a. different doctor right and was getting. both doctors to prescribe him and then. he went off the rails Doctor shopping. yeah they call it well it's the fact. that I guess the doctor in Texas didn't. know that the doctor in La was giving it. to him right so he's getting double dose.

and then he was getting it on the street. and then the next thing you know like. he's [ __ ] gone. yeah it's pretty normal before that. happened yeah there's definitely there's. there's got to be people that are. abusing vaccines like what I would like. to know like what's the moat is there. see Google this. is. it's hard to find person who's been. vaccinated I mean this guy by the way. there's no way Pfizer likes that article. no right it's got probably like online. support group Dennis is not putting this. person in anything yeah no no this is. they're keeping this quiet but there's.

probably like some online oh yeah things. where people are like discussing like. you know there's there's people that. they feel like they should chop a hand. off yes you know yeah they feel like. they're not supposed to have a left hand. well there's also weird stuff where. people pretend to be disabled yeah like. it's crazy yes they they want to be they. want to be disabled there's something. it's like trans disabled yeah I mean I. mean but the brain is such an amazing. thing right like Oliver Sacks was just. amazing uh I forget what he was I called.

it he wrote a book called The Man Who. mistook his wife for a hat and it was. this crazy book about rare brain. conditions where like people just for. whatever reason their brains function in. a way that was still puzzling even to. doctors even doctors were like what the. [ __ ] is this yeah yeah now obviously. that stuff keeps you up at night so you. don't wanna you know because you you. start to hypochondria I don't know I had. a headache yesterday did it make sense I.

mean yeah the brain is like a very. complicated biological computer in some. ways like uh you ever drop your phone. and just starts doing wacky [ __ ] yeah I. I had a phone once I dropped it in. Hawaii and it just started calling. people yeah I would just I would hang up. and it would just randomly call someone. else hang up randomly call someone else. like look at this [ __ ] and that's what. your brain will do some people's brains. yeah it's just the wires are wrong. everything's [ __ ] something got. knocked loose and yeah. and that's crazy that's you forever yeah.

that's what it's scary about Knockouts. like some people that have been knocked. out like they don't come back the same. person yeah they're in a new world now. yeah they're a new human with a new way. of interfacing because their brain is. [ __ ] yeah. are you now with all the bad press with. the nfts are you happy you never took my. advice yes. [Laughter]. not take your advice I refused. advertisements yeah that was smart yeah. there was a few of those crypto yeah. [ __ ] NF I'm like uh uh that's not.

real yeah I'm not getting involved in. telling people to put their money into. something that I don't [ __ ] it's. tough it was a gamble you know and um. you know a lot of people lost and that's. you know now a lot of people getting. held to the account right there's a lot. of people Logan Paul a lot of these guys. people are people are upset at people. Tom Brady a lot of those people are. getting they're getting sued in a class. action lawsuit a lot of people are angry. yeah Paul you know like how about those. Matt Damon commercials where he's. comparing it to like Magellan and. [ __ ] people that's Transit on the.

moon yeah yeah. be brave yeah be brave with your [ __ ]. entire life saving Kim Kardashian got. involved you know well those people were. throwing money around yeah they were. throwing a lot of [ __ ] money around. yeah not to me but we had uh we do. crypto ads on the show not for specific. things yeah we did crypto ads for like. like you know if you want to invest in. crypto here's a good service to invest. with but it wasn't like I wasn't like.

pumping my own Dylan coin right you know. what I mean like I was doing that but. like yeah I mean like I I would still do. ads for FTX like if they I would still. do them if if they you know what I mean. if there was a plan like if Sam Beckman. freed said to me we're gonna make. everyone whole which is what he keeps. saying how is that even possible well. it's hard there aren't there millions of. creditors so much millions millions so. there's millions of people he owes money. to us even if he owes them one dollar. yeah he goes I just want to make them.

whole like they keep interviewing him. and he keeps going my goal here is to. make the customers whole and so if he. called me and goes we're going to make. everyone whole and you know we're going. to pay your rate and we're going to get. in there and do some ads it's like I'm. not going to hold one mistake against. him do you think he thinks that he can. just do it again yes this is because he. did it already I believe that a guy like. that believes I was I was on I was in a. room with Bill Clinton I was in a room. with Joe Biden I was in a room with the. most powerful people in the world I was.

the second biggest donor to Joe Biden's. presidential campaign I I can get out of. this and maybe serve my sentence or he. pled not guilty so he might be thinking. like there's a comeback story it's. what's getting him up every day there's. no way that a Redemption Arc is not. motivating his behavior do you think. they let him be on the amphetamines now. oh I don't know because wasn't that part. of the problem they were all jacked up. on pills well part of the problem was. they were just well maybe that's true.

and I think that's part of the problem. part of the problem is this is also all. [ __ ] kinda you know that's also part. of the problem right that's the problem. Bitcoin like a lot of this stuff didn't. get implemented right it's not being. used it's not like the currency it's not. but you know FTX didn't even sh they. didn't even trade in Bitcoin no they. would do these other [ __ ] [ __ ]. which is really wild it's wild and then. they had to allow me to read you know. they were just doing a sex cult in the. Bahamas with ugly people and I'm for. that I'm for it too it's a great story. if it was real like if they were just.

making money and banging each other and. taking pills called for gross nerds it. worked out great for a while yeah during. that time it was a wonderful story it's. amazing they couldn't get hot people. with the amount of money they had but. they just had gross smart people [ __ ]. each other on an island yeah how great. everyone looked gross nobody looked like. they showered people's hair was weird it. was a good old hippie commune yeah what. was the purpose of the Bahamas this is. the regulatory thing yeah they don't.

want to be under the watchful life they. wanted to get out and do you know Jamie. do you know you're you're um what is the. it's Regulators us Regulators let's do. it that's all there's a bunch of cryptos. are down there no they're all down there. by the way they all moved to Puerto Rico. why do you think that is well it's all. taxes it's four percent tax rate and. they could kind of do whatever they want. and now they're all being found dead. what all these crypto guys a lot of them. are like one guy ended up he tweeted. like the cia's gonna kill me and then he. ended up in the ocean yeah well that was. it you see that that seemed odd a little.

sketchy a little sketchy and then you. just ended up because a lot of what. happens I think with these guys these. Bitcoin guys is. the government has to understand the. stuff better right so the government has. to go and figure out how are you guys. doing whatever you know what I mean and. the government probably sends agents out. to befriend these people right and then. these people either figure something out. they shouldn't figure out or are no. longer useful and then what happens when. you're no longer useful is you're you go.

it's not useful you're a liability we've. become a lot no longer useful so they. could possibly tell a story that's to. get people [ __ ] yeah that could expose. the identities of people yeah for the. guy who drowned what was he saying what. was you know that story Jamie right it's. but it is one of many and you know you. also have to think look look you're not. dealing with the the mentally the. healthiest people in the world not. really that's true CIA Mossad and pedo. Elite are running some kind of sex. trafficking entrapment black rail ring.

out of Puerto Rico in the Caribbean. islands they're going to frame me with a. laptop planted by my ex-girlfriend who. was a spy they will torture me to death. by the way this guy's a fun guy to do. lunch with. you just want to talk I mean by the way. if someone if somebody said that to me. I'd go go on that's the gentleman right. there yeah oh boy oh boy I don't have. that look Sam bankman free you know what. I mean don't be Jewish but that is what. you would do if you were uh an. intelligence agency yes and you wanted.

to entrap a nerd you would bring a hot. spy of course and they have hot spots of. course I've seen James Bond yeah that's. ripping in a hot spot that's what they. do that's how you know FTX was. uncompromised there were no hot spies. that's true that was uncompromised the. CIA was like I can't believe it they. actually want to [ __ ] each other. they have 10 people to choose from. they're all on an island guys and girls. just banging each other yeah and when. you're on that amount of amphetamines.

and what else they're on who knows. they're probably enjoying every [ __ ]. second yeah the Indian guy's attractive. in FTX I will say that everyone else is. gross uh I don't want to I don't want to. put him in with the rest who uh the. India was an Indian guy who's attractive. but everybody else was kind of it was. rough he's probably the king he yeah it. was rough everybody else was rough well. freed was the king because he was the. brains The Mastermind Mastermind well he. also had that Mom that was a democratic. operative and they went to Stanford man. it's so funny because I walked around. Stanford I was doing the San Jose Improv. and I walked around Stanford and you do. get a Vibe it's interesting it's like.

they are the Future Leaders those are. the tech you know it's like Harvard Yale. [ __ ] all that that old wasp money [ __ ]. that it's all about Stanford so these. are all the folks yeah he's the guy. that's the guy with the glasses to the. right of him is not bad looking you know. what take off those glasses that's the. best picture he took and if you saw him. in real life you'd go oh. no I think the Indian guy holds up no no. no that guy with the blue v-neck he. could go to the gym get jacked shave his. head he's got I can tell the features. bad skin I'll just tell him no I'm.

telling you if you're doing good in real. life he had a horrible skin really be. very oily I didn't know I just feel it. oh you just I'm just feeling it you're. being mean I'm not being mean first of. all they stole everyone's money well did. we not make is he in trouble as well. because it seems like only Sam bankman. freed is in jail. other people flipped they became rats. what Caroline did right Caroline flip. because there's no honor anymore well. put those photos up there's one other. gentleman flipped who's uh which one is. he I believe he's Asian.

if he's not he's culturally appropriate. if he's not he's got to explain it to. them yeah which which guy flipped I. don't know that I'm gonna guess that's. Gary Wang well or the guy next to him. got into my head that's scary what about. the guy next to him. that's a prasoud that's a wang okay and. so those I mean that guy to the left cry. I mean he looks like British are they. all oh there's Gary Wayne you know I got. it you son of a [ __ ] see Brett Harrison. already looks worse is that the same guy.

dude he already looks worse wait that's. the same thing go back to the other. picture if that's the same guy that. can't be the same guy I'm telling you. Joe no that's not the same guy I. guarantee it's the same no it's the god. of the right of him isn't it we gotta. find it go back again let me see that. again and go back to the other one again. no yeah no no [ __ ] way I don't know. dude that guy's balding the other guy a. full head of hair go back full head hair. luscious yeah his hair is good no. there's no way that's the same guy.

that's like a handsome fellow with the. v-neck I'm in I'm in his Corner okay. okay but let's let's see those are the. names okay so here's the Inner Circle. uh okay keep going that we know her. she's wild she's watching she's. listening to her talking there's I mean. yeah he's not no there's Gary Wayne he's. in trouble there's William mccaskill. okay wait a minute William mccaskill. Mentor he's a mentor Sam Bank from free. scroll back down again what does it say.

philosophy professor at Oxford Chief. Architect of effective altruism didn't. we have him on the podcast did you have. him on the podcast are you involved in. this hold on a second. the feds break in right I think we we. had someone on the podcast. oh wow that's him that was talking about. effective altruism yeah he was a very. nice guy. and I think there was a request to have. him back on recently before the [ __ ] hit. the fan yeah that's him yeah handsome.

fellow yeah he isn't bad no he's a very. nice guy well he was talking about. effectively sweetheart let's hear him. talk hear him talk a little bit. faster for learning they're going to be. interested in running because they're. now going to have huge amazing computer. power they're going to be able to create. simulations of the past. that um they're going to have some. interest in learning simulations of the. past. well the number of if that is true then. the number of Scottish uh. these future people are going to be.

running will vastly outnumber the number. of actual. um timelines the kind of Base universes. it were. so for the one real Universe where. history kind of unfolds there's also. let's call it you know 10 000. simulations of that universe. and if that's true. then. it's the case that well given that I'm. just you know these things really are. indiscernible for the people who are. inside them it's overwhelmingly likely.

just in the base plate that I'm going to. be in a simulation rather than. um in the real world. and what Nick Bossman says actually is. not that we definitely are in a. simulation but he just points out the. conflict between these three kind of. beliefs that we would seem to hold one. is that we're not going to go extinct in. the near future. two is that you know people in the. future will have some interest in. simulating the past. and thirdly that we're not living in a. simulation. and he himself gives you know a.

reasonable degree of belief. maybe he thinks it's like 10 likely 15. likely that within a simulation. other people who understand the argument. vary a bit more but I think you know. it's something you should at least be. taking seriously. um the reason I've object it is kind of. um. uh even weirder I think. um or it's somewhat technical. um but the well what's interesting is. like see I'm sure I'm gonna give a dumb. answer so let's get out of there right.

now sambang and Fred heard that and went. great we're gonna do it and we don't. care if the experiences are real well I. would imagine that Will mccaskill was. involved with them because they were. donating a lot of money to altruistic. causes and that's probably what his. position his whole thing is about giving. he gave away most of his income I. believe he only kept some very small. amount like thirty thousand dollars a. year and most of his money that he.

earned he was giving away that's how you. know they're real bad folks when they. start giving away that's how you know. nobody's giving away his own money I. know but he lived a very simple life I. know so is Warren Buffett and Bill Gates. the Angels. um they're all giving all these. billionaires are like we're gonna give. away our money and we're gonna and we're. setting up all these foundations and a. lot of it's a fraud audits like a tax. scam and the other thing is like it's. never enough they're not just giving you. the money they're giving you the money. and then going and here's what I want. Society to look like that's the problem.

they go here's my ideas on public health. policy it's like you started Microsoft. what the [ __ ] do you know about good. shut up this is what I want here's what. I want it is bizarre when they get. involved with public health why does. Bill Gates. yeah why is Bill Gates buying everybody. not to eat meat yeah there's a weird. thing where they have they want to. socially engineer society and they think. from where they sit they can do that and. the cover for that is we're doing. everything for you you're gonna love it. it's gonna be better and just to prove.

I'm not a crazy lunatic who wants. control over you I'm look all this money. I have I'm giving it away yay here it is. I'm throwing it out and the reality is. they're just doing it to increase your. power base I mean it seems none of them. are broke. they're all just you know. interesting yeah the Farmland stuff is. wild it's wild why would he buy some. seeds you know he's he controls most of. the seeds he want they want margin they. want a meatless future but here's the.

thing about because everyone can be. trans but then I go what's the point of. that like they just want to genderless. like everyone's genderless and like. typing a pod but Bill Gates I'm not. genderless that was the thing about. Gates is that he likes [ __ ] yeah well I. know and he's you know so to me I go. what is the pert like if everyone's like. this weird like you know androgynous pod. person I go who even benefits from this. I don't know. do you really think that's what they. want yeah if Society gets boiled down to.

this thing where we're not dangerous. anymore they want a very docile oh uh. you know group of people and I think. this is what they've always wanted well. if you can make all the men feminine you. can make all the men feminine stop. Revolt if you can plug everybody into. the idea that they are always doing the. right thing and everything they're being. told to do is for the betterment of. others and there's this social.

responsibility they have it's good to do. this and it's bad to do that right and. when you introduce all these things. because most people want to be good. people yeah so if you can get them there. which is why the woke [ __ ] goes so far. because people go I just want to be a. good person right right right right so I. don't want to deal with it you know so I. think that's a part of it they just want. everybody to be it's kind of a slave. state where everyone will just go and. work at their jobs and not complain yeah. and corporations will you know own.

everything and everybody and you know. they tell you what they want I mean the. articles are out you know you'll own. nothing and be happy you'll you'll have. no savings you don't need to own a car. you don't need to own a house you can. just be on Uber well you will know where. you're going and isn't that wild that. you will own nothing and you'll be. happier this but this is the the and the. people it's Wilder that the people who. are writing that own everything. but obviously someone has to own things. right otherwise you would just take. whatever you want that article came out. I think it like Bloomberg or something. it came out and it came out in something.

where you'd go what like this is the. people that own everything are telling. you that you don't need to own anything. and that the gig economy is great you. can just go from gig to Gig to Gig and. you're on you know you're on the grid. and well maybe the idea is like if you. wanted to look at it in the most. charitable way if you extrapolated to. the Future like what it may be one of. the things that's holding people back is. this desire to possess things and is. this desire to constantly accumulate. wealth and money and power and if it was. even across the board and we could just.

concentrate on the things that we enjoy. doing and not concentrate on things. people don't enjoy it's not human yeah. that's the problem it's not it's not. you're talking about like things in. Idaho concentrated on what he enjoyed. doing and now we have four people dead. Everybody by the way everybody was like. oh kovitz here like no one's working. anymore it's gonna be a paradise look. everyone's Gonna Start Community Gardens. what happened I remember a lot of things. getting burned down. people need [ __ ] to do isolation too.

yeah they shouldn't be slaves to their. jobs but people need things to do and. when you talk about people owning things. and material things like yeah people. want houses it's not only a material. thing right it's a it's a it's a it's a. way to basically provide a sense of. security safety Comfort yeah that you're. not depending necessarily on someone. else to provide you you're able to. independently give your family a certain. quality of life because you own a home. right uh when you own a car you have the.

ability to travel and get a job that you. want per se you know you have more. freedom I look at all those things as. Freedom right like and you're right. there is a materialist angle of that. where like you can always get caught up. you know the house isn't big enough or. the car is not nicer or whatever yeah. but at the Bare Bones these people are. just I think trying to you know. basically self-actualize and have things. and the people that are telling them. they don't need any of those things I. mean well then what the hell are they. placing it with you know an apartment.

you rent. and everybody will tell you the color of. the wall and you know the noise after 10. has to be that's why people stop with. Airbnb people don't Airbnb is going to. go out of business soon because people. have don't Google that but are you. saying that are you saying that just. because you got banned from Airbnb it's. completely a coincidence I'm saying this. Airbnb got too crazy with the rules they. kept telling everyone to clean their own. stuff up and people like well I'm paying. a huge cleaning fee and why am I not. supposed to be loud after 10 pm they got.

rule obsessed and people are sick of it. and now Airbnb is going to go out of. business and hotels are back Everyone. likes hotels now Airbnb zero and hotels. are winning is this true yes people are. going back to hotels people getting sick. of Airbnb but is Airbnb like is that an. actual fact they're putting all kinds of. no I'm glad this is your podcast not. mine it's it's nobody and here's the. Brilliance of this setup no one knows. it's mine that's true I get all these. views because they think it's yours.

right they think it's back on YouTube. it's great don't even say it's mine we. just put it out I start doing ads for. Traeger grill. um. but no I think I think airbnbs are they. got restrictive and there are articles. about it like obviously I'm kidding. they're not going out of business but. people started saying like hey man I'm. on vacation like when I check into an. Airbnb and there's 35 rules I don't feel. like I'm on vacation now is this just up. to the person who owns the home.

yes but it just got too much but can you. look at that in advance before you. decide to rent a house I believe you can. so then. on you but it's a lot of them now a lot. of these things are like. you know everybody's just like there's. no don't because they're in residential. areas so they're like well don't be loud. after 10 and well it's got to be a. problem and because I know it's a. problem because I know a guy who owns a. home and right next to his home he lives. in a wealthy area and they rented it out.

to tick tock kids yeah it's like an. Airbnb at a really baller putting on. some coffee yes there's a they rented it. out a little thank you tell me when. that's fine okay they rented it out to a. bunch of tick tock kids and they were. having all these parties all the time. and he started getting really pissed off. because like his neighborhood be crowded. with cars now and you know and they're. in this very wealthy community this. really nice house that's right tick tock. kids have a [ __ ] ton of money when I. would rent these airbnbs what happens is. I would just sit in the backyard with a.

microphone and scream because I'd be. doing my podcast and people wouldn't. like it because somebody would be. raising their kids and I'm like Megan. markle's a [ __ ] and they're like what. is and I'm like it's my job it's. legitimately my job yeah to do I'd be. smoking cigarettes and yelling into a. microphone and they'd go hey man this is. not so I get it but you know that's why. people you know. I think are gravitating back to you know. Airbnb felt very pandemicy everyone's.

like on vacation in someone else's life. let me see you know you know it's. interesting it was like oh you know. everything you know had become possible. during the pandemic and people were like. maybe you know people are moving around. people were questioning all kinds of. things and it was interesting like what. would it be like to live in wherever and. I'll live and how but now people I think. are just going hey man let's go to a. [ __ ] hotel The Maids come and they. clean they have room service hmm so I. mean that's what I think. sorry Airbnb. I think this might be motivated by your. hate for Airbnb because well it is off.

the platform it is Airbnb is on the outs. or is it airbnb's once allotted a. vacation rental model begins to go stale. who disrupts the disrupter oh. interesting. has the Airbnb Bubble Burst according to. one recent viral tweet Airbnb hosts have. seen bookings evaporate since the busy. summer travel season. air bust Air B and bust is upon us. what's going on with Airbnb no bookings. at all okay so people who this is Airbnb.

super hosts and also they're putting. more restrictions on rentals in certain. communities right so Tahoe look at this. it says has anyone seen a huge decrease. in bookings over the last three to four. months we went from at least 50. occupancy to literally zero percent the. last two months I'm just curious if. something's going on with my property or. if other people are seeing similar. things I'm in Palm Springs where you. located stop telling people now were you. had a problem yeah Josh Patrice stop. telling people to take their own garbage.

out stop telling them to clean their own. dishes make it an actual vacation. experience for them get off your lazy. asses walk into your house and do the. dishes for people and take out the. garbage and have a maid do it they pay a. 500 cleaning fee that should be cleaning. someone needs to clean so that's a huge. problem and that's the problem that I. had where it's like I'm paying a. cleaning fee I should also not have to. clean on top of that and stop with the. covid clean meaning it's fake well it's. a deep covered clean it's fake what do.

you mean deep covered they used to say. that during the pandemic they'd be like. it's a d we're doing a deep covered. clean it's like number one it doesn't. live on surfaces number two this is fake. so they were charging you more money of. course. I just think that it's one of those. things where you know it's it's been. interesting to see it change right I. think and they're also putting Tahoe. just banned short-term rentals gotta be. 30 days really interesting interesting. so they essentially put Airbnb out of. business there they don't want you doing.

short-term rentals in Tahoe Jamie make. sure that's true but I believe that that. is true someone told me that interesting. well Tahoe is a big money place it's a. huge place and there's a lot of money. there but they're I think they're. getting sick of the short-term rentals. interesting the Tahoe kind of makes. sense to me have you ever swam in it. it's supposedly so cold it's like you're. you can't breathe like a ice bath kind. of interesting they say it's one of the. coldest Lakes it stays cold all year oh. it's a glacier Lake yeah Mark Twain said. it would revive a mummy yeah I've never.

swam in it but supposedly it's really. like I wonder what the temperature is oh. I see above last year they capped. short-term rentals but this is a almost. a year ago so I don't know if something. happened since I'm trying to find and I. think when you said capped what does it. mean. um this is six month moratorium so like. whatever was there now you can't have. any more additional short-term rentals. added to this the county or the yeah. they were they were getting real upset. with short-term rentals and I think they. might have just actually just banned it. and just said you got to do 30 days see.

if that's true I don't know if that's. true or not I didn't have an update yeah. my realtor said that I don't know if. that's true or not but oh why would you. reel to a lot of you I don't think that. a realtor I think he wouldn't yeah. so blame him yeah but it's uh you know. that the whole getting people to stay in. your house for a little while and. pretend it's a hotel but then make them. clean up that does seem a little. problematic it's weird it feels like you. should hire me it's strange and it it it. it's confusing because you check in and. you go well I want to treat this like my.

house and I treat my house like [ __ ]. so here it is what does it say here uh. wired cities sites New York City and. Lake Tahoe as examples Arizona. sb1350 a law that passed that bypasses. states ban on short-term rentals means. that such a Crackdown is unlikely to. happen so what does that even mean oh. Airbnb effect while some locations. across the world have instituted. crackdowns or wholesale bands on Airbnb. such as New York City and Lake Tahoe.

wired cities. where the article is I think I get it so. some locations have instituted. crackdowns or even wholesale bans so. that does seem to prove your point so. wired sites New York so it's Wired. Magazine that's got this going on gotcha. is New York City and Lake Tahoe as. examples. this article is about Sedona getting uh. crippled by the Airbnb gold rushes came. out five days ago it's also a creepy man. most people most airbnbs you stand. people are watching you what most.

airbnbs you stand people are watching. you they're watching yeah little cameras. no not even like that but sometimes. there are weird cameras but like I've. heard it's just their surveillance it's. weird like literally they'll tell you. when you check in they're like I don't. have any people here because you're on. camera and the neighbors are watching so. it's like they're like don't have. anybody he over don't have any parties. like we're watching like when someone's. pretending to be a hotel but they're a. private individual that wants absolute. control but they don't understand how. hotels work this is why Airbnb is a sick.

company that has allowed a lot of. people's like weird voyeuristic impulses. to take over and they've monetized it it. should be outlawed frankly they should. Outlaw Airbnb woman books Airbnb only to. find it's an abandoned Villa with. smashed Windows oh wow. so it's in Bali though right so this is. what did she get here no one home well. that's no one's supposed to be home. there's a pond smashed Windows where's. the smash Windows oh okay that's it well. here's the deal it's like.

you know I it's it's interesting I think. if you have a large group of people I. totally understand like why you would. consider being in a plane but just go to. a hotel that's what you do now yeah I. mean you were a Mr Airbnb I use them all. the time because they were cool and they. were fun you could you could be like hi. I'm I'm living like a person who lives. in Suburban Houston right and then. you're like uh now it's just I've gotten. to the point where it's like well they. they got rid of me.

and there was no process you know which. was unfortunate like there was no I was. not able to defend myself like there was. no like you know it's like it's uh the. way the platforming works they just go. you're done yeah so that was it. so that's unfortunate but so you're like. a little bit happy that they're on your. slide I mean I'm a little bit happy that. they're on the slide but I knew it. because I knew when you started asking. me to clean up after myself I know it's. over. it's in America and people need to be.

able to like leave it like it's if if. the cleaning fee wasn't there I totally. understand right but the cleaning fee is. there it's like take out the garbage do. this do that like you live it's like. what. like kit what are you talking about this. is if I'm on vacation here in Suburban. Maryland in your [ __ ]. this is a [ __ ] vacation so treat it. like such the problem with airbnbs is a. lot of them are like you know a lot. there's a lot of people that are trying. to make some extra bucks and they they.

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the office well I also think people's. messages I think people's well I don't. know I think there is still a lot of. hybrid work a lot of remote work going. on uh I think people are saying come in. less than you used to but I also think. people's marriage is like you can't just. sit at home all day like my friend and. his wife work together and like not work. together but worked in a house together. and he goes listen I love her and she. loves me but like it was very healthy. for us to go out every day and have. different social environments right and. then come back together at night right.

it's very healthy to have that not like. every minute be in the same house where. she has a corridor I have a corridor and. you know we're meeting all the time you. know right it was healthy so I think I. think that's you know gonna go back. where people realize that there's more. to work than just work there is like. this social Arrangement and I think that. people in a house all the time. that seems to be you know I don't know. how that will be negotiated going. forward but I do think that you're not. going to have all remote work there's no.

way. people are going to want to leave their. [ __ ] house you know some people don't. know some people love the idea they. didn't have to commute yes well that's. true too because the commutes are. getting worse and worse because. you know there's more and more people in. cities so the commutes are getting worse. and worse but it was also I think people. just love the idea that they could be. free that they're still working but they. can do it on their terms but then like. jobs started instituting things where. they would monitor your clicks and. monitor your computer they'd give you a.

work computer and then people were. installing those programs that moved the. mouse around randomly and clicked on. things nothing is free nothing's free. yeah so whatever you want to get a zoom. camera whatever you get nothing's free. you know it's I think you know after. that period it was interesting because a. lot of people reflected on like what do. I really want to do do I really want to. do what I'm doing right so you saw. Industries. the service industry is still not come. back because people have left the. service industry permanently like a lot.

of people left waiting tables people. left. jobs you didn't want to do right and. they were like I want to do something. else and maybe I want to live somewhere. else and I think it gave people a lot of. time to stop and think about the. direction of what they were doing and. then some people changed it you know. it's interesting to see I mean I I still. feel the places still feel understaffed. a little bit some places some places. still feel like they haven't fully come. back well at the end of the pandemic. like when when things were really.

opening up again that's what I saw a lot. of places like you would go there and. there was a long wait for tables yeah. and you'd see open tables and they're. like we just don't have enough weights. we don't have people yeah. so it'll be interesting to see what. comes in like I think when we look back. on it I think in like 10 years it's got. to be so far in the in the rear view. that 10 years from now I think people. are going to look at it and be like what. the [ __ ] was that it's going to be. interesting oh for sure right in many. ways in many ways and the fact that.

everybody just sort of complied and that. people Everyone of the government by you. know telling other people what to do the. the conflicting information that people. were getting every day do this do that. don't and then knowing now because of. the Twitter files the government was. involved in that oh sure well I mean I. think most people had assumed that I. don't think most people did well a lot. of people did I think I think suspicious. people did most I I know a lot of. suspicious people yeah yeah I mean I.

think most people were. kind of like this is a big mess yeah and. the because you know I mean it was a big. mess and I think like a lot of this will. shake out years later it will shake out. years later things tend to shake out. when everyone's like dead yeah things. shake out years later I mean we still. the kind of you know Biden still. wouldn't release some of the Kennedy. files right it's like it's still going. these things still go on people go like.

we're holding back a few there's just a. few it's like just released a one page. where you admit you killed them well. you're you're a big on conspiracy. theories you're not well I'm a little. bit sometimes I get back I go back and. forth the this one is a big one the. Kennedy one is a big one and you just. see Tucker Carlson we had that the the. program we said he talked to this guy. who's read the files and the CIA killed. Kennedy yeah that's like they were. involved three-year-olds know that but. the fact that he said it on Fox News is.

wild the fact that he said it without. any worry about repercussion yeah I. think everyone knows it's one of those. things now where everybody kind of knows. there was [ __ ] everybody knows there. was really something wrong not everybody. Michael Shermer is convinced Lee Harvey. Oswald actually but that's his beat yeah. shermer's beat is going like this isn't. a conspiracy so the same way you can't. trust a guy whose beat is everything's a. conspiracy right you can't trust someone. who goes nothing's a conspiracy right to. say that there are no conspiracies is.

patently but he doesn't do that he says. there are conspiracies understood he's. just reluctant to give in to ones that. he has supported in the past as not. being conspiracies yeah because it's a. huge credibility issue well it's also. like then it causing the question all of. your other assertions yes yeah of course. and I listen I've heard you talk to him. and I've heard him talk and I know that. he's a smart guy and he's done his. research but like he's just come to. conclusions I think that are. unreasonable well the Trinity one the.

just the one the Magic Bullet one was. the big one for me what is a guy like. say about Epstein does he just look at. everything and go oh yeah he got sad he. killed him so good question right did we. discuss Epstein with him I don't know I. don't know if we did we've discussed it. so many times I mean it's just like I. feel like you know that with the Kennedy. one the reason that it's they they. haven't let it really seep out and now. it's obviously long enough where it's. seeped out is that it's kind of the. mother of all conspiracies all of them. descend from Kennedy and the meaning. meaning that if you can have a coup in a.

country like America where you have an. element of the government or whatever it. is uh Kill the President right and. install the vice president essentially. we don't have a free country we don't. have a democracy all of that [ __ ] is. fake it's all [ __ ] it all sounds. nice but if that is out and widely. believed. you could wave the flag you could have. people go out and sing the national. anthem before the games but if that gets.

out people really understand and they. also go where are all those. [ __ ] now what are they doing. now most of them are probably dead well. yeah but until they are they're not what. about the people that are still working. over there like are they have they. gotten more honest in the past 50 years. right everything evolves everything. evolves so they might not be whacking. people out in the open but what are they. doing how are they controlling people. what are you not allowed to ask. questions no that's what the Kennedy one. for me has always been like that's the.

mother of all of them they can't let. that one. slip and when it slips however it'll be. some like Rogue it was a rogue element. of the guy and we don't you know we have. no idea and. but that's when they came up with the. term conspiracy theory that's right. conspiracy theorists that's right and. they they use it as disparaging term. yeah that's what the origin of it that. was planted I mean if people looked at. our system of government they would not.

come to the same conclusions that we are. taught it is in school we are taught it. as a representative democracy a republic. right you know we're obviously it's not. a direct democracy it's representative. you elect people they go in they debate. and if you did a study of our system of. government by the way like Princeton. University did a while ago and they. concluded it was an oligarchy I mean. they just did an independence study and. looked at what was going on you would of. course go oh this isn't the full story. you know and and I think stuff like.

Kennedy uh really exposes all of that. that you know there are people that. operate in the shadows and they get they. get what they want a lot of them get. what they want. and the fact that the Epstein thing is. just sort of done it was hilarious I. mean you got Andrew Tate by the way. Andrew Tate they're acting like Andrew. Tate. and I'm not saying you know but think of. the political ramification of the. Epstein story what's a bigger story. Andrew Tate human trafficking in Romania. I'm sorry Romania but that's Tuesday.

and you can get hookers in the cabs in. Romania it's just it is what it is like. the cab driver will say to you would you. like I mean it's true that's all a fact. now Andrew Tate I don't know what he was. doing he nothing's been proven but he's. been charged with this. but the abstain thing was all proven you. have genuine victims coming forward. saying these things. nobody's been arrested in conjunction. with it and against the fact that he was. whacked and the cameras were off and.

those [ __ ] people that were the. security guards that day yeah they have. to be [ __ ] their pants. well they probably got taken care of you. think so U.S Virgin Islands district. attorney fired days after suing JP. Morgan Chase over Jeffrey Epstein ties. by the way do you know that Biden flew. to the Virgin Islands for vacation and. then the woman was fired shortly after. inference surprised woman Right In. fairness to Biden he did not know where. he was flying he had you know like well.

people that were with him did yeah I. mean interesting I wonder why he would. go there but it's nice it's pretty there. it's beautiful though yeah it's pretty. pretty Biden's not I mean he's just so. old he doesn't know they just put him in. how much do you think he's aware and how. much do you think he just falls apart on. camera I think he's aware to a degree of. what's going on I just think he was. select I mean again Bernie was. sandbagged they were like we're not. gonna have him in right so who's the guy. and it's like Biden's been the guy. Biden's the guy that you know they just.

want somebody they know right what do. you think happens in 2024 DeSantis. and he'll be fine he'll be I think he. wins yeah and he'll just Trump. yeah really yeah I think now Trump's the. weakest he's ever been really yeah. politically Trump's very good he's very. good in the primaries though so I mean. that would be interesting to watch but I. just I just feel like people are it's. not gonna have the same effect when a. comic goes out and you see it for the. first time it's amazing if it's the same.

stuff the Third special you go okay like. right I think it is he's it's wearing. thin uh his appeal I think DeSantis is. who the party wants well the Santa's is. going to get the reasonable Republicans. he'll get the reasonable Republican he's. not going to get the Qing on people. though yeah but he won't get down but. they're not a huge Force and uh I met. one I met one in Aspen yeah. this lady came up she sounds fine she. grabbed me in the line and she was with. her daughter she says I love you this.

older lady yeah she goes I love you you. are out there speaking the truth she's. saying all those things are going oh. thank you thank you I'm trying to be. nice and then she goes and Donald Trump. is our real president yeah I go he's. definitely not I go you can Google that. she's like oh my God they got to you. that's right oh they got it to me yeah. it was really funny because her. daughters were like her daughters were. super reasonable yes and they were. younger and they're like oh mom's kind. of crazy it's like the Shane Gillis joke. which is a great joke he's like you want. a fox and his dad you don't want an MSN.

but if you have a Fox News Mom it's a. bad mom you know like it's a cute you. know it's the same it's a great job and. it's the same thing that I say a lot. about like it's just the Boomers have. gotten to a point now where they are. this is politics has become a sport. for Boomers where they are it's MSNBC or. Fox News it's right or left right and a. lot of them are sitting there and. they're sitting in their chair and. they've got a heating blanket on they've. got pills everywhere they're drinking.

wine their brain has been melted and. they're just trying to they've got a few. years left not all of them some of them. will live but you know they're at the. end a lot of them and they're in their. 70s or wherever they are some you know. my parents age their 70s and they're. basically like. you know trying to have a little fun on. the way out and that's what I look at Q. Anon as it's actually just fun we should. stop saying it's a threat we should stop.

treating it like it's a thing it's just. fun people want to have fun and it is. fun to believe that Donald Trump's still. the president and he's going to lead a. secret army of whatever Christian people. through tunnels to kill everybody out. like it's just fun they just want to. have some fun that's really what it is I. think that's what I saw from the Q Anon. documentary yeah they're just having fun. to the storm it's like they were just. obsessed with the idea that they were a. part of something they just want to be. unaware of and this is like they just.

want to go around there's nothing to do. anymore there's like a religion in a lot. of ways it gave their life meaning yeah. because there's not much to do you know. there was this great book called bowling. Alone written about like how American. social institutions have fallen apart. things like the Knights of Columbus or. whatever like social clubs or people. used to be a part of small communities. where like people would be vested. involved in their Community they you. know do that anymore so the social. Fabric's been torn apart and people need. to be a part of something. so what if it's the Q Anon give them the. fake Capital to storm you know like they.

just want to be a part of something it's. just what they want to be a part of and. that's a problem with the charismatic. leader like Trump that's comes along and. he tells them you're a part of this and. we're together until they start storming. the capital but it's cute if you watch a. killing on rally it's kind of cute it's. fun it's folksy it's a Civil War. reenactment they're all nuts they're all. bored what's Wild is how many people. were infiltrated yes how many of those. groups were infiltrated by the FBI yeah. yeah because they're bored well that's.

the Whitmer case yeah the FBI wants to. come in and how many of her uh 12 out of. 14. We're fbias the two guys that. weren't are doing big time yeah they're. doing longs long stretches well this is. one of them was talking about it and one. of the things that he was talking about. was like I never planned on doing. anything they coerced me into all of. this I've planned everything and you. know this is. the Boston Bomber Boston bombers it was.

weird too there's something weird about. that the FBI goes yeah we don't know who. they are and then Russian intelligence. goes we told you who they were. Samantha Fuller whose father Graham. Fuller was a huge CIA guy who's. architect of their middies policy she. married this guy ruthless. his nephews are the guys who did the. bombing that's odd that a CIA family. this woman married Bruce Lee's and IV. his nephews who are traveling back and. forth to Dagestan.

and the FBI had no idea who they were. Chuck Grassley who's a senator writes a. letter to the FBI going why were you. doing surveillance the night that Sean. Collier the MIT police officer was. killed in the neighborhood of the. tsarnaevs did you know about them did. you had you had any relationship with. them it's odd and then the FBI wrote. back we were in that we were in and. around MIT because that was the MIT. police officer was killed the day after. or the night of the the bombing where. they supposedly killed you know the. police officer and then were trying to.

get away. um and they robbed the 7-Eleven they did. all this stuff truck rests he's like why. are you guys in that area and they were. like we were around MIT uh for on uh for. a separate reason the FBI was there for. a separate reason this is also a thing. where they killed one of their friends. like one of their they had a routine. interview at the guy's house they didn't. make him come to an FBI office and one. of their friends uh this guy ended up. dead four FBI agents in the room. interviewing this guy supposedly he went. to go grab something and kill them and. then he ended up shot dead so really. yeah the FBI eyes like they're it's.

weird. the FBI the entrapment and the stuff. they get into is weird it's odd the. entrapment thing is strange it's strange. talked before about the story about the. 19 year old guy I think it was in Dallas. who they talked him into uh using a bomb. and activating this bomb you know it's. like uh yeah some fundamentalism right. they talked him into doing this but it. was a fake bomb right they gave him and. then when he went to activate this fake. bomb then they swooped in and took him.

yeah like they gave him the bomb they. told them to do it they yeah then he was. young and gullible and. it's crazy what they do this is kind of. what they do. this is just the way they operate and. they don't want the way they operate to. become public. so all these things that happen but you. got to think that also by doing that you. can infiltrate legitimately dangerous. organizations and you can stop. legitimately dangerous things I think.

that's some of what they do that's. probably the orange sure the origins of. it some of it is I think good I think. the problem you run into with that is. it's so murky yeah and it's such a fine. line when you're dealing with mentally. unhealthy people and when you compromise. somebody or you're you recruit somebody. as an informant it's Weighing on them. they're crazy they don't know what's. going on they're anxious they're like. you know I think they promise this guy. supposedly they might have uh this guy. Tamron or whatever like might have been.

promised citizenship or they might they. hang they dangle carrots with people. they will make you say well do this. we'll do that we'll give you money we'll. do this what's the big conspiracy theory. about the Boston bombings the FBI again. these are just guys that they were you. know probably trying to set up and then. the [ __ ] bomb went off meaning that. again it was just a similar thing where. it's like the FBI had either recruited. them or in the process of trying to. recruit them and then you know if you if.

you come clean with that the American. public goes what the [ __ ] are you doing. right but what yeah the conspiracy. theory is it that the FBI is covering up. that they had prior relationships with. this or knives that they knew them that. there was any pre-existing relationship. with them at all but there's not that. they instigated this. well what is instigated right that's a. big question right and you know did they. did they. give them the bomb we don't know right. but they I don't you know but there are.

instances where they do give people. stuff right or they do allow people to. purchase weapons or they do you know. like did they instigate the Wimmer. kidnapping supposedly they probably did. they're putting this idea the fact that. there's 12. there's 12 guys out of 14. guys so when you when you talk about the. jedias it is just weird that. you know number one there's not a lot. known about the trial that they put. special administrative measures on the. trial uh which means that like nobody. can really speak out about what happened.

it's all very tightly controlled and. they said it's National Security but. then you're like but you told us they. weren't related to any terrorist yeah. thing so why if they're not related to. any overseas terrorist cell and they act. alone what the hell is National Security. so again you're just supposed to go like. hey got him. they got them they got them. horribly like that's people like my Aunt. they just go they go stop with that go. to Markle now markle's been a racist to.

Meghan Markle it's like it's just an. endless circus of nonsense you're never. supposed to get in the weeds with. anything and if you do you're meant to. look insane. because some of the people in the weeds. are insane some of the people that will. will have the conversation I'm having. right now are crazy most most so that. becomes a problem your allies become. people who are [ __ ] nuts and they're. like Chrissy Teigen has a tunnel under. there and you go okay she does it she. does she's selling [ __ ] cookware.

um so you you know you start looking. into things dude when you start looking. into serial killers. it's crazy like when you start looking. at Son of Sam and David and this idea. that there might have been more people. doing that [ __ ] like there's been books. written about the fact that David. Berkowitz like maybe didn't do all of. those murders but he was the guy that. went down did you send me the article. about they never caught the guy who. built the bomb. I send you yes I send you a lot of that. stuff but didn't you send me it like yes.

I said in an article today where it was. a guy from the Boston Marathon bombing. where that you know he had gotten into. multiplication with his parents and they. they can't ran in his house and I don't. know Ipswich which is the clam town or. you know all these places. um and they found like a pressure cooker. bomb and it was like the type of bomb. that would have been using the marathon. and they also proved that he knew Tamil. like they had a you know connection so. it was like oh they were like is this. the guy that built the bomb so who knows. Michelle McPhee who's a journalist in.

Boston wrote the book I think it was. called maximum harm about the Boston. Marathon she did a lot of great work on. it and she wrote a book basically kind. of ripping the official story of Park. going like the feds are clearly covering. up something here. and you know it's interesting and she's. a fun uh journalist I think she punched. a cop or something she's got a dealie. and punched a cop that's something good. Boston good you know something good I. trust people I trust you if you've done.

something like that really yeah if. you've gotten drunk and like punched a. cop it's like oh okay. I get it. you know what I mean it's like I I try I. have more I'm more inclined to. to trust you in that scenario you know. but that's the thing it's like you just. gotta enjoy life because it is you know. you're never gonna you're never gonna. figure it out. you're never gonna figure it out you'll. never figure it out you'll never know. nobody's gonna you'll never know what. really went down. no you know and that's part of the.

purpose that's part of the purpose. because there's so much noise and. there's so much craziness and people get. mad at me and they're like no you you're. cynical and you tell people not to care. it's like I'm not telling people not to. care I'm just telling people like just a. lot a certain amount of time to caring. it's a good diet don't consume too much. most people aren't good at that though. it's a good thing with diets chewing on. here's the thing with diet it's like. you're supposed to take in a little bit. of conspiracy every now and then Q. anon's Denny's. Q anon's just banana salted caramel. pancake like food doesn't even make.

sense yeah Q Anon is everyday fast food. I tried the gate before we go I I wanted. I wanted to get you a Comanche gift for. Christmas and it's very difficult. but just the idea that I wanted to do it. I think you should register is really. nice I appreciate it I called the. Comanche Museum in Oklahoma and they had. like we they're like we have like towels. and shirts I'm like no that's not what I. want I wanted like an artifact and you. cannot buy them no they don't want you.

to have them I know that like if you dig. up uh Arrowhead they'll kill me they. believe that it belongs to whatever. Nation other thing I was reading about. do I want to curse myself to give you. something but so I I wanted to get a. Comanche thing that's why I texted you. I'm like where are they coming at you I. want to text you about the manual yeah. it was it's impossible to get anything. so. thanks anyway but I really wanted to. thanks for the thought it was a great. thought and it would have been great if. it happened have you ever read into them.

I want to read more about you said they. were like a nomadic and it was the wild. yeah it's right here Empire of the. summer moon is probably the best book on. it interesting it's really good are they. your favorites well they're the most. fascinating to me because uh they were. the reason why people couldn't get. across the Plains and and into the. Warriors they were the yeah well they. they would set people up by giving them. homesteads like hey yeah you would you. like all these acres in Oklahoma go. there yeah and they'd go there they'd. get slaughtered and then that would be a.

reason why they would bring in the Army. and then were they the toughest time. well what they were were the tribe that. mastered uh horse like horse racing so. they they were Horsemen they knew how to. ride horses they knew how to raise. horses they had an abundance of horses. and they would ride on them and shoot. arrows while they were riding they they. mastered equestrianism amazing yeah so. they would like hang on to the horse. sideways and shoot from under the.

horse's neck as they were riding so they. were riding and shoot arrows while they. were protected by the body of the horse. do you are you do you think the Avatar. stopped there's any obviously Native. Americans are kind of pissed about it. but not all well I just sent you that. article which is but that's just. everything right no matter what the. [ __ ] movie is if it's Maverick Tom. Cruise's movie or right there's always. going to be someone that's upset about. it yeah this is an outrage culture. outrage is. I think it portrays advertises if it's.

based on the Native American it portrays. them as like like really good people oh. they're the most noble I mean they're. the most people in Avatar are the the. navi or the most noble they're the most. noble you know what's interesting that. someone pointed out all the in every. movie you have diversity but in Avatar. all the humans are white because all the. humans are evil yeah I think the Nazi. are interesting people you know what I'm. saying yeah of course the navi are the. most noble but I think they're also. short-sighted because I think the sky. people are giving them really good.

opportunities and Pathways to money and. profit and I think the navi are like hey. we're just going to be in the forest. forever it's like you're not let's get. real like they're ignoring tourism. they're ignoring a lot of things I. believe in progress. I believe in print no I literally do and. I don't think you can just like oh I'm. blue and. I think eventually it's like enough and. the people they when in 2009 when people. went to see Avatar they got Avatar. depression because the way those people. lived was it so resonated with them like.

the way they want to be they want to be. they think go to Brazil go to Brazil and. get bit by a bug the size of a bird it's. all [ __ ] nature [ __ ] and the planets are. done no the reality of the planets are. dumb the only thing good really is. casinos and like inside things that's. why people like Dubai they build. everything inside yeah it's like this. nature [ __ ] it's people like fetishize. it go out in it for a day you're shot. you have skin cancer it's over do you. have anything to promote I mean how. hilarious is this to ask you do you have.

anything do you want to tell do you have. anything to promote no I don't I don't. promote anything I don't even I've never. even promoted my show history I doubt. it's done well. um uh yeah Tim dilloncomedy.com if you. want to get live tickets to the shows. how's touring been it's been fun I mean. we're we're doing doing uh we're in. clubs now to build material yeah and. then we'll probably start some theaters. in the fall where like you're a. different person well I have multiple. personalities no it's me but I just I.

was talking the Royal way it seems yeah. you know what I mean yes. um but yeah it's been fun we did Irvine. Improv on New Year's they were fun they. were it was great do you like doing New. Years. you know every year I go I'm not gonna. do it and every year I do it that's what. I do I just like to work because like. everywhere I don't want to do it but. then like I I you know you get an offer. and they go they want you to do and I'm. like I could entertain people over New. Year's Eve um and you know somebody said. to me once they said. whether it's New Year's Eve or New. Year's Day do something you want to do.

for the year. it was interesting they were like do. something that whether if you're if. you're jogging if you're this if you're. that do something start the year the way. you want to finish the year so I love. doing stand up so I start and maybe you. start the year doing it. you know the way I don't know but why. don't you work. um it just seems like too much of an. amateur hour like it is you know it's. just everybody just wants a cheer when's. the countdown yeah see how many people. are angry at Don Lemon because he missed. the countdown have you ever done this.

you've probably never done it oh I've. done it multiple times yeah yeah many. many times I've done I used to do New. Year shows every year so now you just. take it off do you spend it with your. family yeah soft it was fun it's a. little soft I enjoyed it you're not. worried about money no I'm kidding. I don't think that it's the same kind of. show I think it's a fun show yeah and I. think that people like their noisemakers. they like those little horns that they. get to blow we brought a woman on stage. at the end to just help us do the.

countdown well the thing about La is we. did a countdown at 8 30. it was totally. fake there were two shows the early Kent. I'm like this doesn't even correspond. with New York it's a completely fake. countdown and everyone's in the mall. it's just why did you do a countdown. because they make you. yeah so that was in the contract you. have to do the count it's part of the. thing you have to say I'm not doing a. countdown. I used to do early shows.

a fake countdown I think the audience. kind of enjoyed the countdown I don't. think so I mean you know they like it. they love it they like making noise on. cue yeah it's they're like yeah it's new. it's a fun you know it's a fun thing to. do and next year I'm like this year I. went I'm not doing it next year I. guarantee I'll do it next year people. love being sort of like corralled like. that like yeah yeah ready go yeah we're. gonna do the same talk show taping oh. God yeah well just kind of the same.

thing like all right everybody applaud. yeah let's go Applause signs are wild no. it's crazy that whole thing is wild it's. such orchestrated enjoyment of a show. that's right like when you see the. person who's the producer waving at the. crowd doing it you go to one of these. things people don't know there's signs. that flash that say Applause right which. is [ __ ] crazy and then there's a. person who's like doing this to the. crowd getting out of jail excited so. when you see everybody cheering along. it's not organic because people don't.

know who half the people are anymore. like when you go to see a taping a. Fallon you have no idea who these people. are somebody comes out and it's like. give it up and you're like okay they're. like you know do they have a say at all. and who goes on those shows you think. the audience is yeah like Seth Meyers. does he have a say uh interesting I. don't know that's a whole area of Comedy. I know very little about like I don't. know how the guest selection process. could you imagine though doing your show. if somebody chose your guests yeah that. to me sounds like hell it would be crazy.

well it sounds like a totally different. thing it's not not that you wouldn't get. great guests you probably get a lot of. really interesting conversations but not. being able like one of the beautiful. things about podcasts you get to pick. who you're talking to yeah well it's. like they wanted me for hot ones one. once and then they go we got someone. else and I was like oh. like because I was like very down the. list like everyone else had canceled. they couldn't get me one and then they. go well you do hot ones I go yeah and. then they go we got someone else and I'm. like what was this how long ago was this. probably like I don't know like a year. ago or something but it was just one of.

those things where you realize like. you're like okay I got it because you'll. get it you know they get somebody for. what you doing now probably you don't. feel upset that they canceled on you I. was a little it was a little [ __ ] up. but I'll still do it I'll still do it if. it moves some tickets if it gets people. to come see me or whatever they probably. will you have a great hot one yeah so it. was weird to me that they would just dip. out they might have Googled me too and. they're like wait what like what are we. nuts like and I get it they want like. you know listen I'm you know I just did.

an acting thing and I kind of did good. um in it I had three lines and during it. the director said to me because I'm kind. of at my wit's end with you I don't know. why you're doing the wrong thing I was. moving a book I had to pass someone a. book and the thing with acting is. everything has to be the same time. different like everything's got to be. the same every time right and I wasn't. doing it the same way he's like you're. doing you're passing the book like. differently I think I don't know what's. wrong with you and I'm like oh I'm sorry. because I would get nervous right so.

because you're putting the pen on the. book differently he's like sometimes. your hand is over the book he goes. sometimes you take two fingers and push. it like that he goes what is he you know. what's wrong with you so but I think by. the end we did about 17 takes and by the. end. um I think it was good at the end to. decide to never act again well by the. end he was like you did a really good. job and I was like thank you so much and. I have to believe him I haven't been. back to set since yeah now no but I. think I did good it's fine or you know I. think I did well okay it's acting stuff. I think I did great I think I did great.

and but he was very he seemed upset I. can't wait to watch it now yeah because. that's all I'm gonna think about edit it. out but I think I did really well and I. think during it he just the director. seemed very upset and the other actor. seemed a little mad but they were nice. that's good they were really nice but so. I don't know we'll see we'll see. CAA was like that might open up some. more doors I go well I don't know. open up some more doors do you want to.

do that though would you want to be on a. set for 16 hours a day for five months. no but five months is no but if they. said like two weeks. yeah and I come in and I just get to be. funny I don't I shouldn't carry this. unless like it's all about me and I'm. involved in the create you know but like. if they bring me into a thing where they. go you can kind of be like you and be. funny but that wasn't this this was like. a different but like if I was like yeah. but you know. yeah I wouldn't want to do it for five. months but like you know a couple of.

months like if you know it would depend. on you know if it was something where I. felt. like I feel good at podcasting I feel. good at stand up because I really worked. at those things I feel like I could be. funny but you know it would have to be a. real specific thing well the acting. thing is it's very specific in that you. know you're brought in for a very. very specific goal but you're supposed. to move this aspect of the plot you're. supposed to be this guy that does this. thing I think some people enjoy that.

kind of work where you can kind of like. lock into this character and then you. see how it affects the script and see. how it affects the movie and you get. excited about it yeah I mean and I I I I. I I could be excited about that I feel. like. um you're too free though the problem is. like the directors are less excited. about you you've gotten to this point. where you can be so free and then you've. developed an audience that's the problem. is free and then that's the problem yeah. well I don't think the good news is I.

don't think anyone's really. go like I'm not going to be a marquee. actor like if I ever did a movie I'd. want it to be a cult classic on woke but. look at that very funny Bert Chrysler. the machine he's just like yeah he. released the trailer on the podcast that. I did yeah and but that's him after he. released that I could do because that's. like his story yeah that's what I'm. talking about you as a corrupt mortgage. guy yeah something like that something. like that yeah that you could do that I. could do like you could do your story.

that I could do yeah yeah I mean selling. subprime mortgages it would have to be. that it couldn't be I'm not going to. come into like a roll but it would have. to be like far enough from 2008 where. people aren't mad at you anymore. right well I think yeah I mean I think I. think I've done a great job. rehabilitating the image of subprime. mortgage sales people. that's one of the things I believe I've. done I I think I've kind of because the. the borrowers were criminals too through. also but did they know there were.

criminals or were they were just like. given an opportunity everybody wants. money if you look at the word victim. throughout history you've done a big. history guy a a imagine explaining to. someone in history you were a victim and. then they're going what were you a. victim of they go somebody gave me 700. Grand you go what. you were I was a horrible victim in this. predatory scam what was the scam. somebody gave me 700 Grand I didn't have. a job. you were a victim no everybody played.

the game and then you know it's musical. chairs the chairs went out I lost the. house my house is foreclosed on I bought. a house when I was 22. I had no money. but a 600 000 House in Long Island did. you really it sold five years later for. 250 000 without a good investment. I would never sell someone something I. wouldn't sell myself. I was a cocaine addict and I wanted a. house. [Laughter]. I love houses. I hate I don't like homes homes are. weird what do you mean people that have.

families and like love in the home I. prefer just a nice house to destroy. really yeah I'm gonna have a I have an. investment course called many houses no. homes. how to own and abuse real estate yeah no. I mean yeah and then I lost the house. too and I bounced back I moved into some. dump and I did stand up for three years. you're funny and the best years of my. life were spent doing stand-up you know. and eating pizza in New York and then. you know and then I get I I came and I. did your show and things were okay so.

it's gonna be fine. thank you very much thank you I. appreciate it I appreciate you thank you. thanks thanks for having me of course.