The Great Shark Debate | The Tim Dillon Show #356

ladies and gentlemen welcome to the Tim. Dillon show uh we are here a very good. friend uh director actor writer. Eli Roth thank you for coming thank you. for having me I know it's a rare. occasion it's a rare occasion. um for a guest on the show there's very. few and most of them are hated well I'm. a listener to the Pod so yeah I hate. when you have guests because I tune in. to listen to you rant so I know how. people feel hearing my voice yeah and. I'll just say this don't kill sharks. thanks Tim no but here's why I wanted to.

have you want very rarely do I want to. talk to someone about something it's. true I spent a lot of time alone I drive. my car alone I swim in the ocean alone I. stare at people I go up and down PCH. it's actually very I don't mind Solitude. and I gather my thoughts and then I come. here and I say them very rarely do I. want to speak to anyone about anything. and hear or you know if I want to talk. to someone I'll just play something. they've said on YouTube and then when. I'm done with it I can just exit out.

instead of having an actual conversation. but you. outside of the work we've done together. because we did just do a film together. which we will not speak about because we. are in a strike in solidarity with the. strike yes which will end soon we hope. we hope and we can get on and talk about. all that stuff because I have a lot to. share but we will not yes later on. months from now when the strike is over. and everyone is happy and the executives. and the writers are hand in hand if. you're having lunch with zazlov later so. if between that and your dinner with me.

you know the breakfast with Bob backish. I think you should be able to solve this. I may be the secret weapon meaning like. and I've said this before why am I not. on a negotiating committee. I understand the way the executives live. where they eat what they enjoy what they. value and the writers don't because the. writers live in Echo Park in Silver Lake. and they're they're just it's a. different breed of human if you want to. call them that and I respect and love. them and I know that they need uh their.

needs met. but they need to find a way to. communicate that to the denizens of. Beverly Hills of Malibu people that I. know and that I see and that I respect. and I like so we need to meet in the. middle but one thing one of the reasons. I wanted to have you on is that. somewhere along the line and I don't. know when your Instagram got completely. hijacked I thought you had been I. thought your Instagram had been uh. hacked hacked yeah I thought it was. hacked by environmentalists I didn't. know what was going on because I know.

you as a director of films and an actor. and I'm like okay and you would ask me. you I auditioned for a thing you did a. bunch of times I didn't get it that's. okay it's by God's not a big deal I did. I think 40 auditions it's all right it's. fine and I think it was like I think you. were like we hired someone who's even. fatter and I was like God damn it all. right I don't know if I use those words. but it did serve as the audition for the. new one you know I basically was like. okay he can do it and that's good yeah. and I didn't I didn't make you. re-audition I wrote something that's for. you for the new one that's a good point. so I knew that from the first audition I.

was like oh he's great and he can nail. it it just we needed a different type. for that role I like that and this was. like I'm gonna write something great for. you and well again we want to talk about. it we can't talk that's why I didn't. yeah but then I'm looking at your. Instagram and I'm I'm just seeing bloody. sharks bloody fish I'm seeing the. entrails of fish I'm seeing sharks that. are opened up and and you're you're. having this uh moment where it's all. about sharks and I and and what's. interesting about this is people have.

breakdowns in a myriad of ways right in. Hollywood like people have all of these. CR like there's all kinds of ways to. lose it right lizzo was making people. eat bananas out of vaginas in Amsterdam. people just there they get to a certain. point they go and listen nobody's above. a break nobody. and I'm looking at this and I'm going is. everything okay can you communicate to. me why at some point in your life you. decided to care about vicious killing. machines that inhabit our oceans.

well thank you for that lovely. introduction Tim I I agree I mean you. could say it's a mental breakdown but I. also have a somewhat manic personality. and obsessive which I think helps being. a director yeah I think you I'm like you. I'm totally alone I like to be in. solitude I like to write what I want. people to say and then control the. actions of what they do and then edit it. it's it's part of what I enjoy in. storytelling but I think I also love. sharks I grew up in Massachusetts I will. say this and you're a swimmer and an. ocean person I'd never seen a shark in.

the ocean before have you. I have not seen a shark in the ocean so. everything we know about sharks came. from TV and movies because we had never. encountered one in the ocean because why. would you want to because a shark as far. as I was concerned was just going to eat. me so then I heard I someone asked me to. be part of Shark Week With the Show. shark after dark and they started saying. well you know we're killing 100 million. a year I'm like how's that possible they. go yeah we are it's for soup in China. and I go really that doesn't make sense. and I started talking to more activists.

going is this thing real and they go yes. since 2000 it's a recent phenomenon they. serve it at weddings and uh the shark. trade has started then they stopped they. said well you can't take the fins. because that's cruel to throw them back. in so they started the shark liver oil. started and and all these kind of side. businesses started and I go well what. does Shark taste like they go well you. can't really eat it it's too toxic I go. what does shark fin soup taste like they. go it's nothing it's like fishing line. it's fingernail they have to flavor it. with chicken stock I'm like wait hang on. a second why do we need sharks like. what's the big deal and they go well.

sharks are what keep the ocean healthy. they're like the doctors of the sea like. if you think you have a swimming pool. like imagine if you didn't have the. filter and all the scum started building. up on the top layer and there was. nothing to clean it like that's what. sharks function are so I went is this. true yeah because I've never once heard. and I'm not saying you're lying and I'm. not saying these people are lying and I. maybe you could look this up are sharks. the doctors of the ocean yes they are. I'll tell you why they are the oldest.

Predators they're 400 million years old. without I know everyone's already tuning. out so I'll try and make it fun and. short 400 million years old they're. older than trees older than dinosaurs. they've evolved to basically be a. perfect Hunter where they'll only kill. what they can catch and they don't eat a. lot they'll eat once a month and they. eat the sick and dying fish so what. sharks do is they keep everything in. balance and they clean up the ocean so. which is interesting what it says here. as well as keeping the ocean food web. and balance sharks also play a pivotal. role in keeping populations that they. prey on genetically healthy as well as.

removing disease and sickness from the. ocean hence the turn doctors I've never. heard this well that's there's a reason. yeah and there's a reason you're afraid. of them there's a reason you hate them. it's because the fishing industry is. making millions and millions and. millions of dollars off of their debt. but they also they also attack people 12. people a year more people more people. are killed by vending machines is that. truly like yes it is this is one of. these fake statistics about a fake. statistic how do you die from a vending. machine because your Zagnut bar gets to. get stuck and you pound the damn thing.

going give me my candy bar and the thing. falls on you like 38 or 40 people a year. die from vending machines more people. are killed from armed three years oh my. God at least 37 deaths and 113 injuries. since 1978 that have resulted. oh but that's since 1978 that's not per. year that's what they're aware of a lot. of people aren't bragging about well it. says we're learning risk in the U.S of. dying from a shark bite is roughly one. to 250 million in contrast the yearly. risk of dying from a vending machine. accident is roughly one in 112 million.

okay so this is the party line these are. the talking all right so it's basically. you you came in prepared with this well. I know this stuff from doing the reason. so I spent five years making a. documentary called Finn that is on it. aired during Shark Week it was on. Discovery plus then that sold to your. friend David zazlov so now it is on. stream on Max well no one cares more. about sharks than him right exactly well. the thing is nobody likes sharks because. they don't have faces they don't have. personalities they don't have vocal. cords it's not like when you say by the. way creepy.

and here's the thing this is the way I. feel about sharks. I don't have a particular issue with. them but when when people say like we. have to live in balance with nature. okay but I mean let's I mean let's take. that to the extreme are we not going to. use uh bug spray are we not going to try. to limit uh the incursions of rodents. and things like that into our homes I do. think that at the end of the day we. should be.

looking at sharks you know when we have. these seal populations that are out of. control they're nuts in where you come. from there's a there's a documentary. right now called uh. after the bite yes and it's incredibly. boring and a waste of everyone's time. but I watch it's you don't have to what. it's about is all these people from. Massachusetts with heinous accents uh. the water it's the worst but I grew up. with it but what it is is the seal. populations have gone nuts the sharks.

are feeding on the seals there are more. sharks now than ever and it's created a. really dangerous situation for people. that want to enjoy the water and it's. become like the tough guy thing on the. internet to go hey you're living with. the sharks you're in their home you. better be uh you know aware of that. you're taking a risk and my thing is. like we need I think to really. not let sharks intimidate us and we need.

to see them as a threat and counter that. threat the same way we would counter a. threat of China or our country you know. we are building up an Arsenal right now. to fight China in our defense department. we have trillions of dollars of money. being spent on weapon systems to. eventually counter China. should we not look at sharks the same. way should we not experiment with fences. at beaches electric fences sharks are.

there they don't want anything to do. with us they don't 99 of the time. they're just they're there anyways they. don't want any they don't want any more. interaction with you than you want with. them what you should be afraid of is the. algae the acidic algae blooms look at. this this is interesting this is this. I'm also afraid of this look at look if. if you want to worry about sharks. closing a beach okay you can have shark. spotters they have in South America. someone looks and they go up there's a. shark people come out they go back if. the fin is up no they can you can I mean. you can see them you can they can have.

drugs a video up of that person in Egypt. being mauled I want you to defend this. I'm not going to defend it to defend me. hang on a second okay let's talk about. the algae yes look up in Ventura County. this summer the beaches that were closed. because of acidic algae blooms Dolphins. were biting dolphins are washing up on. shore seals are washing up on shore last. week all the beaches in La were closed. because of bacteria this is this is when. they say the ocean is out of the balance. what the Sharks do and this is algae no. but they eat the fish they they keep the.

grouper in check the grouper eat the. parrot fish the parrotfish eat the algae. so there's no sharks right and then you. have the grouper go crazy because. they're like well the police aren't. around let's eat all the parrotfish so. there's no parrot fish now so the algae. are like well hey we're great because. the grouper don't eat the algae they've. taken out the parrotfish the parrot so. now the algae spreads and it turns toxic. so animal life can't live but but it's. it's impossible to clean you can't fix. that there's no way that human beings. with our vast array of resources and. technology and science can fight the.

algae without sharks no not yet I mean. we're talking about dumping chemicals in. the ocean the natural way to do it is. sharks right but we're pulling them out. of the water for nothing what's the. problem though this is mainly the. Chinese it's not that's the myth it's. that we're selling our fins everyone in. the world does it we just stopped. there's like a fin ban but it's legal to. kill sharks so that's why this thing. started the Alabama Bama deep sea. fishing rodeo which I was going to make. a post about I kept quiet and then I saw. what they did over the weekend two years. ago they allowed sharks so what they did.

is these scientists Alabama deep sea. fishing Road it's the biggest kind of. fishing bloodbath in the United States. it's a rodeo where thousands of boats go. on a crazy fishing it's a show of. strength and two years ago from Humanity. they showed they they put they added one. guy who's a bear hunter added great. Hammerheads bull sharks tiger sharks and. people were so upset because you had. these beautiful magnificent apex. predators the hammerheads really don't. attack people so I say leave them alone. none of them attack people it's an.

investigation it's an investigative bite. when you bite a sandwich are you. attacking it are you going okay but what. if it's a sandwich you don't know if. you're gonna like that's true you take a. bite and you're like if even if I'm. biting a sandwich that I don't know if. I'm gonna like the sandwiches let's say. let's say you go to Jada and you bite a. sandwich and you're like I don't know if. I want this set this the turkey and the. monster cheese maybe I have the roast. chicken and you take a bite and then you. know I don't like it I put it back but. you're not attacking it sharks attacked.

five people over in the beginning of the. summer. yeah they bit people yeah now those. people are fine they were not fatal. bites yeah it's an investigation yeah I. mean how many does how many people die. from fentanyl I mean like there are a. lot of things more people die from bees. more people die from dogs it's not fun. you're not crusading on behalf of. fentanyl not yet right not yet I might. my next iteration yeah so this this does. and here's where I will throw you a bone. this seems a little [ __ ] up well what.

they did this year was not only but the. shark is tasty no but have you measured. it for mercury it's 35 times the. allowable amount of mercury in your body. so you have like Shark Girl Madison. there's project nakawi. this ocean Rams is a major problem I. know you do but I was amazing. and I don't well I don't like the. trolling of dude first of all is it not. disrespectful if we're gonna respect the. doctors of the sea to read to jump in. and redirect them and tap their nose and.

if I did that to my doctor in Beverly. Hills he'd be upset if I'm like go that. way and I just touched his nose so I. don't know what ocean Ramsay is doing. she seems a bit sick well there look. ocean is big on education and is that. her real name that is her real name and. Ocean's been great with me and I think. that Ocean's main thing is of course. she'll defend her and all of us look. there are other people that feel people. like why are you touching sharks at all. that's correct there are plenty of. people that feel that is correct I will. completely acknowledge that but the. point is that in this Rodeo you had a.

guy who killed a thousand pound tiger. shark Brett Rutledge look him up he's. the winner he won he won six thousand. dollars paid for by iHeartRadio so he. takes this apex predator they slice it. open and 25 babies come out the. fishermen so deep sea Guardians get all. these videos there and then the. fishermen send a video to deep sea. Guardians where they've taken the 25. dead babies and the mother and they did. a tick tock to the song baby shark and. that's where I was like you know what. it's on my Instagram yeah and that was.

sent by the fishermen so I just said so. you basically have this Rodeo I will say. this I love um raycon earbuds because. they're like the other one but they're. better and they're less expensive and. you have. a 30-day happiness guarantee you really. can't lose. there are so many modes you talk you. know you have 32 hour battery life and. the modes you have awareness mode so. basically you can be aware of things. while you're listening to whatever. you're listening to music podcasts and.

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you get 15 off your order I mean what do. you deserve that no but you're getting. it because I'm telling them you know. what I mean like you you because you. know me you're getting it but you don't. deserve it you should pay full price for. raycon because it changes your life and. they're giving it to you for 15 off good. night now and and they get the size that. seems too far but they get the. scientists from Mississippi State. University on my Instagram uh it's like.

Mississippi State uh Southern Alabama. University and then the deep sea fishing. rodeo put some precious going look. science is there now Noah which is the. body that's supposed to be overseeing. all this stuff Janet Coit at the head of. NOAA Fisheries says shark fishing is. sustainable my whole point is we can't. eat them it's too toxic to eat they're. not down ninety percent killing at least. 100 million a year and I show this all. in the documentary it could be as high. as 270 million 30 000 an hour sharks. take 11 years to reach sexual maturity. they have like eight or nine pups like.

they breed basically like humans so. they've killed this apex predator cut. out 25 babies made a tick tock with it. took the prize money from iHeartRadio. and nobody and all these scientists are. like shut up it's for science you don't. know what you're talking about and I'm. saying we have to completely end shark. fishing because now the beaches are. closed because the algae is spreading. it's a real problem and everyone is. looking at the activists going you guys. are crazy so what I've learned and you. want to know why I go crazy this is it a. lot of the the science labs they get. their money from the fishing industry.

they're funded by them so they don't. want to speak out against it and the. ngos too the fishing industries so I'm a. film director I can go crazy is it. powerful asset to have in terms of. conservation one of the things that RFK. did was when RFK whose career was as an. environmentalist for a very long time. people don't realize that. um he went and he got you know the the. the fishermen and the hunters he didn't. go out and use words that were. politically divisive like global warming.

he went out and said. let's get the hunters let's get the. fishermen don't you want clean rivers. yes don't you want uh you know forests. that are healthy and thriving yes okay. well here's how to do that and he you. know so I think the fishing industry can. play a vital role in conservation are we. against all fishing are you saying. absolutely not all fishing is bad no I. am not that's I completely agree it's an. extremist point of view it's very you. say that no one should have anything.

there's two-thirds of the world shark is. bad what else are you looking to ban. just shark that's it just shark that's. it. um like honestly the the Sharks you. can't do anything with it anytime a. shark is out of the water well have you. ever seen when they do uh the jaw well. no no well that's nice yeah but also. have you ever seen like on a restaurant. when they do uh it's not quite Taxidermy. but I forget how they do it where they. take the shark and they you know they. make it into uh something into a wall.

mount yeah here's the thing so much of. the sharks are killed by bycatch anyways. they're all getting caught in the Gill. Nets and the fishing there's and I do. think so they're not even pretty to look. at they're not yeah they're all ground. up they have no fins on them I mean look. you can't it's a pointless industry and. the reason people want to keep going is. because they want likes on Facebook so. I'm the one who's like I don't make my. money from the fishing industry I can. just be a voice and go why are we doing. this that's all I'm saying the whole. point of the doc is can't we just we 50.

years ago the whole world got together. and goes why are we killing whales we. need to stop sharks will not be able to. never attack. it's it's except Moby Dick. right but Will's never attack and and. killer whales really don't attack people. except did you read in the heart of the. sea where the bull sperm whale Ram that. boat three times that's what inspired. Moby Dick before that was that was the. first sign of intelligence that book is. incredible because people thought whales. are Mindless monsters and the fact that. it stopped and turned around and rammed. Captain Pollard's bows twice and then it.

happened to him again the guy got. Shipwrecked twice the book is insane the. people were started cousins when we. exempt sharks from criticism for their. behavior yes when we say that it's not. their fault that they killed somebody. and we are saying that you know we're. calling them Predators or apex predators. and I'm just saying like we should view. them potentially as a threat and they. should when they attack us shouldn't.

they be punished. well I think that if you if you get. attacked by a shark then your chances. are probably better to win the lottery. or get struck by lightning I mean 12. people here's here's the thing Tim you. you are getting your wish right now yeah. what you wish for will happen to a shark. is happening 30 000 times per hour if. you want sharks to be punished what's. happening I'm not doing well but here's. the thing if if if we take away all. punishment. what happens you're telling me.

you're saying you don't think if sharks. could they would come on land and kill. everyone if they wouldn't they don't. want to kill anyone they would figure if. they wanted to go on land they would. kill everyone they are you telling me. that you think sharks are like cuddly. people who are like I've been in the. water with them and I have cuddled with. sharks before when what a sand truck a. nurse shark no and what water tiger. shark. at first I I held it's me holding shark.

in tonic that was a gray reef shark that. was in the Bahamas there was a shark who. had a hook in its mouth that they had. taken out that would follow me finally. in in French Polynesia I went in the. water I just with no chainmail with. nothing and they said just put on. flippers be careful don't Splash and. they threw Chum around me and I had like. a hundred lemon sharks around me and I. just sat still and they didn't care this. is a sexual thing people going in the. water with these shots it's what is. going on I wanted to know if they were. gonna bite me and they didn't and then I. went under the water with a tiger shark.

for an hour and it was really cautious. and really aware and you know there was. someone with tuna fish behind me and I. fed them by hand and this thing didn't. go crazy just carefully glid buying it. and then I was in the water with great. whites you have to get in a cage with. Whites by law in Guadalupe and I saw. SEAL swimming around hanging on the back. of sharks fin and I was like and they. don't go after if they see us and when. you approach a tiger shark or Hammerhead. you have to underwater you have to be. very still hold your breath they get. scared of bubbles they they just like. are you a predator are you a prey you're.

a large thing with arms I don't know. what that is I have to be very cautious. they take an hour before they come over. to you so by the time they get to you. you have very you have to breathe calm. because you have very little air left. because you only have an hour 75 minutes. of air underwater so I couldn't believe. basically everything I learned about. sharks was a lie from the media and the. reason they're doing it is because they. want people to be totally turned to. Blind Eye so they can keep killing them. so they can keep money so then why would. Spielberg make Jaws if it's a lie. except well he regrets it he apologized. for it is that what he said and Peter. eventually too it's one of the greatest.

movies ever he said he's very sorry. about the damage across the Sharks I. don't blame Jaws I think it's the I. think it's the weddings I think that the. industry started but I I do think that. Peter benchley Well Jaws was a very big. component it was a fear of fear it. wasn't but it may be justifiable fear do. you know that because that was created. like there was that guy that got eaten. in Massachusetts there was a guy that. was eating in Egypt and we're supposed. to ignore this ten people get eaten on. land I'm not saying ignore it I'm saying. they are dangerous animals like let's. not pretend that there's cute cuddly.

creatures look at that make that big if. you know how to go in the water yes I. mean this is horrible and this is the. poor guy this is your friend it's not. necessarily mine this is your friend. these are the people that you defend all. day these sharks I can defend them. because they don't have vocal cords. somebody needs to defend them I'm not. defending approach you know what they. would say horribly racist things they. would say anti-semitic things there's no. look at his face that's me that's me. with a little show is that really true. that's me right there on the right times.

is writing about this. I can't get one review of my special. Jason cinnamon no by the way good to. millions of views on Netflix and and. they were writing an article about him. and a shark they trashed me they were. like oh did they oh my God they were. like the New York Times design I don't. even think they watched the movie they. were like Eli Roth torture porn blah. blah blah it's like I was like they. completely missed the point of it okay. so yeah so if you're very happy you want. to see me get trashed read the New York. Times review it's like they didn't watch. the movie or listen to anything I said. interesting but that's all right I mean.

I I don't well you know what it is. you're a horror director you're known. for that and they think that you're just. kind of exploiting Gore and that's okay. but you I wasn't prepared for how much. you knew about this you're very well. versed on this well I have to be yeah. five years making the documentary and. there's a lot of people that put their. trust in me so and there's a lot of. people that are much smarter they're but. look trust me you you talk to the. biologists that are Dr Sean Powers Dr. Marcus dryman who were the two. scientists who endorsed the Alabama. culture they said the core of.

environmentalism is a hatred of humanity. if I speak to those scientists they will. want to destroy all life on Earth to. protect animals well they they will they. will tell you that I'm crazy I'm an. extremist shark populations are fine if. you oh oh wait a minute if you ask. Janice so they don't they don't agree. with you the scientists no they think. we're crazy write their names down no no. because I do I've always respected. science but let's go I'm telling you go. on there they put up Noah put up a whole. Instagram defending shark tournaments. not even acknowledging the 25 because.

they're bought and paid for exactly well. their Department of Commerce NOAA is. under the Department of Commerce because. they're more than paid for and you are. hated by the fishermen yes well I'm I'm. not anti-fisherman I'm just saying fish. whatever you want just leave the Sharks. alone that's all I'm saying does that. seem weird but but don't are you ever. concerned about and too much too many. sharks do you not have that fear at all. are you no you don't think they're I've. been in the one spot in the water the. shark Super Highway in fakarava in. Tahiti the only other person that was. out there was James Cameron in a boat.

yeah and it's just like you go and you. do a drift dive when. where I was raised and I love and it's. my home and I love being there and we. banned the hunting of the deer well do. you know what happens now you're hunted. by the deer there's lots of deer is. there not something to be said for. balance. yeah but balance right now it's going to. take like about 25 years of not killing. sharks to get it even close to. rebounding if you stop uh fishing the.

Sharks and shark bites go up to 100 a. year. and fatalities go up is that okay with. you. well yeah so your position is more dead. people less dead sharks well of course. but I don't believe that's going to. happen I think that what's going to. happen is with more sharks in the water. the oceans are going to be healthier. they've shown that reefs when you put. sharks in balances we all believe are. fine the re well if you've been. underwater with them and seeing the. dying reefs we also have pools right but.

you would you what if we start to be in. pools what if we said ban your pool. filter and you let all like well my my. house manager. my pool got a very big algae bloom. because my house manager did not tend to. it and she was potentially I don't know. eating right and I had to have them come. in and they put a bunch of chemicals in. and within 48 hours it's fine right so. why are we not dumping chemicals in the. ocean to kill algae we are dumping. chemicals in the ocean make no mistake.

about it it just has nothing to do with. algae interesting yeah like think about. the ocean as your pool and think about. that house manager as a shark if the. sharks are you know what I mean if you. had a better house manager that was more. of a shark and less of what would a. walrus I don't know a seal that would be. nice. I'm sorry I don't know your house. manager I'm not getting sued if you had. less of a like more of a shark less of a. seal I guess you can say seals yeah I. was disappointed with her behavior but.

you know I didn't bite her I'm just. saying this there is a reflexive. position that most people have right now. it's this reactionary position where. they're always defending sharks and. they're always looking to. um you know attack human beings and it's. like well you were in the ocean it's. your fault well I think that's wrong I. think everyone without the other I think. that's crazy I mean I'm not trying to. listen I understand that the fishermen. in Alabama are being told this is great.

you have the scientists to know going. there's no problem Go Fish them. everything's sustainable so when you're. told that by it's like the Milgram. experiments when the person says you can. shock which we I recreated for Discovery. and we saw like when someone says oh. they told me to do it when the. scientists are there and they condone it. people believe the scientists because. why wouldn't you they're reputable. scientists they're not like shady of. course these are top scientists that are. going populations are fine I don't know. where their money's coming from that's a. question yeah but the problem is people.

go crazy next thing you know they're. ripping babies out of pregnancy and. making tick tocks but they're doing it. because they're like it's for science. guys and they're like haha they hung a. bull shark from the American flag now if. you're a veteran is that what you want. like endangered sharks hanging from a. flag in Alabama and everyone going. woohoo like something's wrong that's not. okay so when I see the environment I was. just going like why are we doing that. you can't eat it there's it's completely. useful and now we're gonna get the. outside get them or throw them out.

they all got thrown out and in fact in. New York they have the Block Island. there's there's shark fishing. tournaments there were two of them I. think it was Block Island Star Island. fishing they're now finding all the. carcasses of the the juvenile ones. because you have to throw back the. underweight ones so all like the kid. sharks that they didn't bring in that. they didn't report are all just rotting. in the bottom of the ocean the whole. thing is it's like and then we criticize. China but we're the ones killing sharks. at home why can't we clean up our back. can we all have fulfilled lives without. killing sharks that's all I'm asking is.

this one thing that we can all do and. it's not going to come from me it's got. to come from the kids of the fishermen. someone in Mississippi someone in. Alabama has to go you know what Dad can. you just not kill sharks I know you love. fishing but we can't eat them and you. just throw them back and all you're. doing is making tick tocks with them. you're making tick tocks with dead. sharks that's the only reason you're. pulling them out of the water or getting. prize money can you just not do that is. that possible can we have fulfilled. lives without dead sharks well you know. I I certainly think that's an idea and I. see this bull shark here.

um that was hung from the American flag. and. I I do understand what you're saying but. I also understand that that Public. Safety is important when people are. swimming in the ocean. and we have to you know realize that. sharks are coming closer to the beaches. now they're swimming in they've always. been there well but but is it you know. this is I think an increasing. uh danger to people and that people have.

to be very aware of these animals and. they have to be very aware of you know. the the potential for them to be violent. and deadly and like there is this thing. where but that's like saying that is. there's Bears vicious I'm against those. people. like people fetishize vicious animals. and they think they're cute and cuddly. this happens all the time there was that. uh documentary but that guy that hung.

out with bears and then guess what. Grizzly Man he got eaten they got eaten. by a bird okay now your friend uh ocean. ran stressing whatever her name is ocean. Ramsay eventually statistically she's. going to get ripped to shreds by one of. these tiger sharks on YouTube reels or. Instagram reels YouTube shorts I don't. want it to happen I'm saying what she's. doing is incredibly dangerous and she's. trolling a a an apex predator. so to me I just think that.

they should be viewed as Predators they. you said when a shark comes into contact. with humans they go predator or prey. I think is is it wrong that humans look. at sharks as Predators or prey if that's. how they size up us is it wrong that. that's how we are sizing up them we are. not on either of their food chain. they're not on our food chain and we're. not on their menu they just they don't. know like they take a bite and they. don't we're like two bony and fleshy. like when you see a tiny little bird or.

a sparrow you're not like oh let me take. a bite it's like right maybe it was a. big roast Americans are getting fatter. they are Americans are now resembling. marine life it's true in an alarming. rate in an alarming rate many Americans. are indistinguishable from sea lions in. the water this is very true this is a. fact. sharks will stop seeing Americans as. bony and flashing and start seeing them. as what they are. kind of large marine animals that will. provide sustenance for shark but the.

idea okay so let's say you win and we. now eliminate all sharks I don't want to. eliminate all sharks I've suggested. electric fences I've suggested poisoning. some the ones that are bad I've. suggested clubbing seals because the. seals on the beach are the reason that. we have more sharks now you talk about. algae blooms the reason that we have. more sharks is because we have more. seals you used to be able to Club a seal. on the beach they banned that they got. rid of the seal clubbing used to be able. to go and you would go boom you're done.

you wouldn't always kill it but you. would just go boom and then they would. know oh this isn't Fun and then they. would leave and then the shark because. we have more seals now than ever and in. Massachusetts they're saying this and. these shark conservation freaks come out. and go don't worry about it it's okay. and they have to remind them they go the. job of of this is Public Safety it's not. to protect sharks it's to protect people. we have a Constitution now when you when. you were able to remove the seal but now.

you can't remove the seals you can't. touch seals can't make the seals. uncomfortable so then sharks eat the. seals it makes it unsafe for everybody. the beach is getting closed all the time. and you have to understand that the. parents who lost their child in the. water in Massachusetts who is surfing. have a right to be angry at the sharks. so many people running online businesses. right now but they really don't know. what to do and here's what because it's.

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these sharks have a God you know do you. know that in Hawaii the spirit of your. ancestor goes into a shark that's why. they I'm a little I've had enough of. them by the way I've had enough of them. I know everyone's spiritual over there. and then you go over there everyone's. 600 pounds and on math what happened to. the spirituality by the way you leave. the resort okay you leave the Four. Seasons in Maui there's spirituality. goes out the window because there's a. gun in your mouth and they're taking. your luggage okay so I've had enough. well the how about more rain dances and.

less gun in the mouth so but that person. dies and their Spirit goes into a shark. so wouldn't you want that person who put. the gun in your mouth be inside a shark. this idea that like Hawaii is some great. spiritual place and it's just tourists. getting knives to their throats. um listen I understand what you're. saying you have to understand what I'm. saying if I own a house in Southampton. or Malibu or Palm Beach I should be able. to float in the water without thinking. of shrive paid enough money to so that.

these sharks should know this guy should. not be touched and In fairness I haven't. had a problem in those three places and. I've been in the water a lot that's what. I'm saying is that none of us you know. 99.9 of us will never have a shark. encounter we're not supposed to but I. think we need you need to have healthy. respect for them but I think that we. need to protect you who would win a. shark versus a polar bear. oh that's a good probably a shark. interesting yeah sharks are Ambush. Predators right you know you wouldn't. even know the shark is going to get you.

you'd be floating and then you're either. gonna live or not they move they'll take. off like a rocket and just bite you but. this is what I'm saying it's just it's. weird to me like why do we see. people that live with very uh you know. they adopt these animals right you see a. guy living with a a tiger you go that. guy's nuts but when we see these people. going into the water. and touching sharks or giving sharks. cute nicknames. does this not raise is this not a red.

flag to me it's a symptom that it's just. a reaction to What has been presented. out there before if everyone had just. been like sharks are important we need. them leave them alone stay out of the. way don't swim at night don't like these. are the times when sharks are feeding we. have people can spot them from drones. going okay there's a shark here you guys. watch out like if we had a healthy. respect for them the way that a lot of. the surfing Community does. um then I think we wouldn't have to have. sex. surfing Community Jonah Hill used those.

words Surf and Community they were. disgusting that and they're disgusting. now those two words to me are vile uh. because there are Surfers I think with. many different views but I get it I get. it respect the oceans respect to sharks. blah blah blah blah. um it we may get to a point where pools. are the new oceans it might happen it. might get to that point where literally. like it or not here's the thing whatever. we say in this room people are going to. keep killing sharks because as long as. you're making money from doing it well I. don't make a dollar from it we don't nor.

do I nor do I get any money from this. but that's why you know FedEx is still. shipping sharks GNC is still selling. shark products but people can go to this. are they good bonds what about the shark. oil what is that terrible we tested it. in the lab in the documentary what does. it do for you nothing it causes. inflammation it was started by a guy who. wrote a book called sharks don't get. cancer which is a lie sharks do get. cancer and then two weeks later he. started a shark cartilage pill thing. because he's like well they're killing. all the fins and taking the oil anyways. Image Google Image shark fin soup let's. because let's see because you try it I.

try it in the in the movie I ate it and. it's not good and they have a gelatin. version that's identical and I went to. China what about New England clam. chowder is amazing dude I love clam. chatting so are you gonna go on a. crusade next to protect the clams no I'm. not going to save the clams I will. don't you think tuna are going hey man. uh because the vegans. are gonna say well Eli Roth seems to. really love sharks and maybe it's. because they're Stars sharks are stars. yeah so they get a lot of attention so. if you make a documentary about tuna no.

one cares but I would I heard some. things about tuna while I was making. this someone told me that there's a. certain corporation that is trying to. kill every tuna in the ocean and freeze. it and stockpile it so they can own it. have you ever gotten the criticism from. vegans that you're not going far enough. all the time all the time what is your. response to that why pick sharks why not. salmon why not tuna what about octopus I. was at avra the other night in Beverly.

Hills and the manager there who treated. me very nicely and I will be returning. although I was trying to eat healthy and. they sent me 19 desserts for free that. wasn't great but I do like the. restaurant they sent me free uh uh uh. you know on the house they sent me an. octopus uh like a appetizer yeah and. don't they have a movie where my octopus. friend right and isn't that some freak. that's friends with an octopus once you. see it it's like it's too it's too. upsetting like I had a pet pig I can't. eat Park anymore once you know Eli you.

know. first of all you can you can eat bacon. you can eat pork it's phenomenal. um the reality of the situation is most. of America I'm sorry not America. most of the a lot of the world is. starving it may not be most but a lot of. them are starving it's true and a lot of. them would eat anything they could get I. know and this idea that we are sitting. at the top of the food chain in this. incredibly privileged country lecturing. people like the Chinese a lot of them. have to eat dogs that's what it is. they're poor and you know what they're.

eating dogs and I've always supported. their right to do that even when people. are get mad at me because people are are. poor and if I was in a poor city in. America and someone was eating a dog I. would not yell at them if I was in. I don't want to say a city name but. let's just say uh uh Levittown Long. Island and a family was eating a dog. because that's all they had I'd go hey I. get like don't you see that to people. around the world it seems so privileged.

to sit on this perch and be high and. mighty and say oh this guy is the luxury. of worrying about fish like for example. when you go in on the Safari in Africa. um. you know there there are people that get. offended by you know the hunting there. that you know what happens but a lot of. people will tell you that game hunting. actually supports the environment yes. because it actually allows investment in. areas that badly need it it promotes uh.

the the uh a necessity to have the. species propagated so it doesn't go. extinct and a lot of those animals are. going into Villages and eating people. and so it's funny to me when it's like. somebody like you or ocean Ramsay on. your yachts in the ocean and you're. having little you're having little tea. parties with the sharks because you're. the elites but then there's other people. that are getting eaten by sharks and I'm. worried about those people well I was I. was very careful about that Tim and.

that's one of the reasons that over the. course of the movie I go to everyone in. the country with sort of No Agenda I. Don't lecture anyone I go out with a. shark fisherman and I try to understand. why they're doing it how they're doing. it how they can feed because what I've. seen is that in the Bahamas says one. shark dead is basically sells for about. thirty dollars one shark alive can bring. in 250 000 in shark tourism in dive. tourism so there's actually there's. actually a gold mine so so there's. actually more money keeping the sharks. alive much more money so so I worked.

with a woman named Reggie Domingo we go. to the fishermen and there's there's two. beaches one called Cabo Puma one called. Los freireless and then where is this in. Mexico in Baja California you're always. out of the country oh well I go around a. little odd it's not odd you're. constantly uh like on the land country. but look I sat down we have beaches here. in America where you grew up how about. you visit them I did and I went to the. shark tournament in Massachusetts in. Newburyport it's crazy so I talked to. everybody and I don't come in I don't I. know how they see me I know they're.

going to see me as privilege and there's. some Hollywood director I was like let. me just go and just turn the camera on. and let them say their side of the story. because I think that you can't tell. people what to do I think you can only. lay out the facts and go is there a. better solution than this can we just. stop doing this what what would the. benefits be and the answer really is you. look at shark girl Madison she's helping. in Indonesia the dive tourism helped the. fishermen we should be helping the. fishermen turn their businesses into. dive tourism because we have literally. two beaches side by side one has tourism. they're all thriving and one is killing.

sharks and it's everything's dying so my. feeling was like I know I'm going to be. mocked I know everyone's going to go at. me I sat down with the shark traders in. China they'd never gone on camera before. and I was like I just need to understand. they're like and the guy said the same. to me he goes do you know what weed in. China do you know where all the pig's. feet go they go to China we eat. everything people are and I listened and. they're starving and I hear them and. it's a great point and I go I understand. that guys it's our Salient point that. we're gonna be out of sharks in 10 years.

anyways if we don't stop now they're not. going to be able to repopulate I'm just. saying that I think we in the Western. World in the First World. um. have a a privilege and we don't realize. that food is really to many people. around the world of luxury and. like if you're a a young person that is. not hungry I'm sorry that is hungry and. you're in one of these countries and. you're look like you're working hard at. school all day and you're waiting for.

that bowl of shark fin soup when you get. home and you go I work hard all day at. school and then you're driving a. rickshaw a literal Rickshaw through the. mountains with your panda friend and. you're going up hills and up and down. the hills and then you get to this. lovely little rustic little Chinese kind. of like bamboo it's very it's kind of. well appointed and you and your panda. friend get out and mom goes hey and. here's the shark fin soup that's. someone's culture.

so to me. what you're suggesting is like someone. goes oh I have a culture but it doesn't. matter because you want them instead of. that to go through McDonald's get 15. cheeseburgers and like you know like. start like I don't know vaping by the. mall but they're like no no no no no no. we have a culture too and it's eating. this soup I asked them about that it. actually started in the 1960s there was. a story that one of the Emperors in the. year 800 said I want to eat a shark.

because that's the strongest animal and. I want to be stronger than that so then. in the 1960s the restaurants the hotels. were like what if we served it as a. gimmick and just to get people to stay. here and have their weddings here and. then in 2000 China really started. getting money or 90s took off it became. a really expensive item but the problem. with the soup is that nobody likes it. because it tastes like nothing it's. actually fishing wire so they have to. put chicken stock in pork stock and they. have to scrub it with bleach now the. bleach they scrub it with is the same. stuff you clean your toilet with it has.

neurotoxins the bleach does not come out. they have have to scrub it bleach it. dehydrate it rehydrate and it only just. feels like if you bit your fingernail. that's exactly what it tastes like so. fairness so so I'm describing 85 of. American fast food exactly as well. there's a lot there's plastic in the. yoga mats at Subway I know I'm sorry. there's yoga mat plastic in the bread. yoga yeah the yoga mats all of my yoga. at Subway but you know what I mean like.

like you're making good points but then. they will turn around and they will go. you're serving people plastic they can. they can say it but here's the thing the. Young Generation in China I I asked them. I go what what they don't want it at. their wedding because the parents are. doing it to show off and I said that you. know I said with you I don't listen to. the younger generation because they. don't believe in Tradition they don't. believe in values they're many of them. have been raised on the internet they're. sick. and if you're gonna have a shark fin. soup a traditional shark fin soup at the.

wedding. and you know if you're having food that. has actually no flavor and causes. impotence in brain damage which it does. with the neurotoxins in the fin and and. to even get it to taste like anything. you have to flavor it with either but. it's delicacy and it is a flax it's it's. a flex but they but what we realized. fake there it's not 50. dummies but we. realized fake if you have an expensive. bowl of mushroom soup or lobster soup. people are just as happy and we talked. to everybody so the young people in.

China are over this are over and the. older people are just like we just want. to show off give something expensive and. treat our guests well so a lot of people. destroy every tradition that's ever. existed on the planet like this is my. this is a fake tradition it's it was a. marketing gimmick it was never a. tradition it's not like oh by the way. the Pharaoh Islands you know they kill. them if you ever sat down with one of. these fishermen and have they really. opened your mind. you know when you sit down with a. fisherman like a yeah a a hearty kind of. old salt from Massachusetts who's like. you know the Sharks must be eating yeah.

but really though has any has anybody. opened your mind to the necessity of. this is there do you see any of the. arguments from the other side at all the. only thing I can see is that in a place. like Indonesia uh they're starving and. eating shark because there's a lack of. protein that's that's a serious issue. because Indonesia but what I've seen. mainly is that it's like the mafia is. very involved in Spain there's they're a. huge Spain is the number one exporter of. Finns it's a completely useless trade.

there's not a single person where I sat. down I was like and that's why you see. me in the documentary talk and I go. crazy I'm like but I don't understand it. like the soup has no flavor it caught it. has neurotoxins none of the health stuff. like what is it and then it's like oh. everyone's just making money from. killing them so why stop it that's. really the answer well I mean listen at. the end of the day it's it it's. certainly you have an opinion and I. think that it's valid and I think you've. done research into it. um and I think that like there's me is.

there not a happy medium. oh can we not meet in the middle what is. the middle though the middle would be. viewing sharks as violent Predators yes. protecting ourselves against them by. means of well I don't know but. but you've been in the water your whole. life you've never even seen one a sand. shark once swam into me and was. disgusted don't you think that's racist. isn't that the definition of racism as. you've heard things about you have. actually no experience whatsoever with.

sharks none everything is from what. someone has told you and what you've. read in the news you've never. experienced one you've been in the water. your whole life and yet you still. believe this That's How Strong the media. is don't you see the brainwashing that's. been the last 40 years that's what the. fishing industry wants they like us to. be terrified and angry and petrified of. them instead of saying going we need. them respect them protect them but let's. figure out a way. I'm only sometimes on a plane if I have. nothing to do.

and I have the Wi-Fi I will watch shark. attacks like a lot of people. and. we all watch plane crashes which is. actually kind of ironic and fun to do in. a plane but I'll watch shark attacks. because I want to know what's going on. and I want to know what I'm up against. and this idea that sharks Eli are not. violent when they are apex predators is. crazy but that's not my position my. position is please don't kill them we. need them okay but also how about please. don't kill us two sharks well there's a.

lot of other things that guy in Egypt. why is the tiger shark eating him I. don't know. tiger shark but the tiger sharks it's a. tragedy it's a tragedy people are going. to die like we can't protect we can't. child proof the world we can't you know. what about a gate no I'm literally. saying what about if they tried people. tried it it doesn't work why because you. can't build it in the ocean the ocean. moves you can't like build something. that sits in the ocean that keeps sharks. out which we have drones that watch the. Sharks and can we send threatening. things down like not not just not just.

we just there's a horn they do shark. spotters they just there's a shark. people move out five minutes late shark. passes most of the time the sharks are. there swimming with us. we never know it because they don't want. they're afraid of interaction I'm. telling you they only go after things. they know they're going to eat and they. don't eat that off and they're pelagic. they wander the globe eating the sick. and dying fish that's what they want and. so when we're splashing around that's. mimicking that like when a fish is. injured well I don't like splashing it. out into it a lot anyway because it's. very it's kind of like low rent Behavior. well you know when you have to float.

kind of like you know. uh you know like you just kind of like. just be quiet I don't like a lot of. splashing I don't like a lot of loud. music on the beach I don't like a lot of. fast food you know like a certain type. of beach I like a couple of women in. white linens for a quiet woman don't go. in the ocean it's a little gross and the. men will go into the children or the the. housekeeper will bring the children in. but the women sit there a little white. linen on the beach reading a novel I so. there's certain type of beaches that I. don't go to I mean and God forbid and.

God help us we know a lot of what's. going on in the beaches right now it's. crazy. um but I'm just saying you know I've. always been a person who believes that. human beings are a special and unique. thing. I know that about you no I believe that. and would you ban smoking I mean you're. an advocate of smoking well not always. but I think there's times when a. cigarette will make a situation more. livable. um uh but no I I I I wouldn't ban.

smoking what I would say to people is. you know. I believe human beings are special and. unique and I believe they have dominion. over the animals and the beasts a lot of. people do and I and I don't even believe. that. necessarily in a theological Christian. way I believe in it in a we are smarter. than them we are sharper and we have. been able to do things like make things. like drive-throughs and nuclear weapons.

and uh all-inclusive resorts and things. that people may not like but. they're nice did you know that great. white sharks speak with mouth gaping. they do this a lot. these little jaw movements and move. their fins and is that speaking that's. how they communicate and what do they. say well they go down in the bottom they. decide who's going to go up to breach. they have an order they discuss it. amongst themselves you'll never see two. sharks breach on a seal now can you. speak in mouth gaping and fin movements.

no but a lot of people I grew up with. can well so a lot of those people decide. through mouth gaping and fin movements. who's going to talk to what girl and. who's going to get in what car exactly. so there's a lot of human beings that. behave in a certain way I'm just saying. I I here's what I say and this is maybe. the the the the resolution let's all. just lighten up right right because. you're making these very depressing. things about oh there's all the killing. and the shark let's lighten up the. Spanish Mafia let's let's all have some.

wine and relax let's not go here and. tell everyone how to live that's my only. problem you like I go let's not am I out. there killing a shark with a knife no. but I'm very much let's Live and Let. Live let's let people around the world. do the things they want and if it's your. culture to have the shark fin soup at. the wedding I don't know if it's my job. as a western American to tell you how to. live I believe that we all share a. planet but the sharks are pelagic they.

they roam the globe so they're taking. your sharks out of your way as much as. it's like it's it's a problem that. affects all of us I don't want to tell. anyone how to live I know no one's going. to listen to me but when I see them. making the tick tocks with the 25 dead. babies in my gut I have to say tasteless. and they're hanging it from an American. flag that's taste that's what I said I. was like what are we doing no that's. wrong and then I heard rados paying for. it kill the universe. with two and they're celebrating it and. so how can I not say something it's. about it's just I listen I agree with.

you in that case what's your that's your. favorite animal as a shark pretty much. let's be honest it is I love dogs too. but yeah sure what's your second. favorite well sharks and dogs. sharks and dogs is that the next. documentary the people eating dogs in. China oh no the next documentary is. gonna be something far more sick that I. can't even talk about because that's. another before we let you go am I the. greatest actor that's ever lived well I. can't speak in specifics but I will say. you are a brilliant actor and I and I'd. say and I say it's better than Leo or. Clooney and if I did the roles they did.

the movies would be better because it. would be less about sex enough with the. sex all the time it because people can. focus on the movie everybody's asexual I. mean with we're not promoting something. specifically why is Timothy Charlemagne. everything when I can also do it for a. fraction of the cost I think if you. change your name to Timothy Dylan May or. something but it's just he's all the. time he's befuddled and Confused. let me in and I'm more direct and it. hits a little harder can I tell you. something in my opinion if I was to call.

me by your name you know how homophobic. people would be. you should be Willy Wonka that would be. the champion. with the kids the kids just getting. stuck like. sharks on that set and eat them all I. mean that's just you it's sad for me to. see a lot of these franchises things I. grew up with being destroyed uh for. whatever reason or you know reinvented. in ways that I I can't uh co-sign and. and but I do appreciate you coming on I. do appreciate this I I know that you've.

swayed me a little bit here where I do. understand now where you're coming from. with the algae the algae is bad look up. Google algae bloom Venture County I. don't care about venturiken but I do but. these beaches were closed this summer. because they're like out of control. acidic I don't like that and I do and. that's because we're killing all the. sharks and they can kill them in Alabama. and it's going to affect the sharks in. California like the Sharks move around. they don't just sit in one state so.

that's what I'm saying is like can we. just as a practice is there a way to. make them live on land like is there any. way that they could live on land I. looked into it I used to work there's no. way right but could they they it's like. it's like the Dolphins I mean it's like. the the orcas you can't you can but part. of the problem with them is that they're. in the water all the time and no one. really like it's not you don't interact. like if they were on land a little bit. we're not supposed to see them they. don't have faces they don't have. emotions so people are like the only. time you see it is when there's a bite. what are they going to do.

the shark did nothing ever why don't. they have faces well they've evolved. that way they here before there are they. are our last dinosaurs I know there's. some dinosaurs in the movie industry but. these are real dinosaurs for real and. we're wiping them be here forever they. should no there were five mass. extinctions we're currently in the sixth. they will not survive this now at the. rate we're killing her hedges keep. saying that Chris Hedges that we're in. the sixth message how do we black what. does that mean well we're killing. everything which we know but like the. bug I mean pick your cause they're.

people that talk about the bugs that the. bugs are dying the people oh no here we. go more bugs but that's great but the. sharks aren't the sharks are not going. to make it we're killing them too fast. and there's too much against them and at. a certain point do you know how buggy it. is when you go certain places it's very. buggy so what are we doing I don't know. well we all want to live in the. Brazilian Amazon do we all want to live. in in bug tense I'm sorry about. civilization I'm sorry about Western. Civilization I'm sorry this russoian you. know third world thing we're all doing I. I know it's kind of fun to do in Silver.

Lake with your hat but the reality is. civilizations is actually a great. accomplishment of humanity it is and. animals have their own thing but we got. to figure out a way to kind of deal with. it and they're going to deal with us. well I think that anytime you take a. position defending something you're. thrown in the category of crazy. extremists right and all I'm saying is. can we all live happy and fulfilled. lives without rewarding for killing. sharks and everyone says well it's just. a few sharks in Alabama but it sends the. message to children that these are.

prizes that this is fun and that this is. a whole culture well that listen yeah. can we not do that fish for food but. well the Gilgo Beach guy didn't kill any. sharks. right. he didn't. but you know again Long Island for the. win. he's not out there killing sharks he's. not going to kill any more from jail. people want to because everyone's gonna. agree with you when because my fans are. soft so when they see this they're gonna. you you've made a lot of sense and. you've come in here with Statistics and.

and biology and all this crap and people. are going to say that I'm throwing out. kind of superstition and fear but I. think both of those things have a. tremendous value. and that's a great point to come maybe. end on is like don't you think it's a. little hypocritical that you make people. afraid for a living like hostile I'm. afraid of Eastern Europe now for no. reason none Eastern Europe's not like.

that although it is a little but like. this thing. when you made hostile you're making a. movie about people that are kidnapping. and torturing and murdering people and. it's a secret Club of Elites where they. can visit this place and and and kill a. person it's all before anyone knew. anything about Epstein's eyes yeah well. it's all before we all knew that was. kind of we all know that it was real you. made us scared of of these these. communities billionaires that wanted to.

cut people's eyes out but you were right. but I was correct you were correct I was. on to something so maybe these uh Peter. benchley is right or maybe I'm correct. with Finn that we gotta you know now we. gotta do this for the Sharks I also. thought it was kind of perfect because. if you if you're an environmentalist. you're going to get a certain crowd but. if I make horror movies people will know. maybe I'll give it a chance maybe I'll. listen to what he has to say and they. don't have to agree sharks are going to. get killed no matter what we do but at. least I'm the CR I'll be the crazy. extremist that puts out the idea and.

maybe moves the you know the Overton. window a little so when you hear it. again next year they're like it wasn't. Eli talking disaster but I have a friend. who does like think he's going to get. eaten by a shark all the time and I do. want to say to this person nothing. special will ever happen to you nothing. good or bad will ever happen to you so. don't worry about it like my friend's. like well there was a juvenile white. shark in Manhattan Beach I go you will. never make the news for anything not for. one thing nothing no one will ever care. about you at all so tell people where.

they can see this documentary where they. can support your efforts thank you I. mean Finn it's on HBO Max or Discovery. plus it's called Finn and you can go on. my Instagram page or actually a great. page is shark allies is a really good. one but I would say watch watch Finn on. HBO Max and look at my Instagram and I. tag everybody and and if you want my. point of view watch guy in Egypt eaten. by shark that's on YouTube you can find. it on Tick Tock they keep Banning it but. it keeps popping up you can watch that. that's my argument in a nutshell in a.

few minutes a guy yelling daddy as the. sharks eat him uh timdellaccomedy.com. American royalty Tour on sale now and. let's hope you have a resolution here. are you Optimum Mystic this is going to. be resolved soon I think everybody wants. it resolved and I think all parties are. and I think that you know the Tim. dylanization of Hollywood needs to start. um very soon and uh well the reality is. that I want to I won't really want to be. able to come back here and talk about.

your work because I think you are you. know I think you're something special. and I I can't wait for the world to go. it's very nice of you and I will say. that in the reality there are a lot of. people hurting it's been a tough time. yeah there's a lot of people all the dry. cleaning businesses all the side. businesses the restaurant it's so. painful [ __ ] tough right there's just. restaurant workers that are are saying. like nobody's eating out nobody's doing. lunches and stuff anymore and it's like. it is an economy it is fun to [ __ ] on uh. Hollywood because it's worth [ __ ] on.

but like there is an economy of people. that you don't see that are really. affected by this you know what I mean. yeah uh it's not just the CEOs we all. feel bad for them because the names are. being dragged through the mud and so we. all feel bad for Zazzle. obviously the first thought we have is. like are they okay yeah well they can't. they can't even use their names at. restaurants anymore no it's tough It's. hard but the reality is they can all. right. um and but that's our first thought but. then also much further down the line.

people that may not be as sympathetic. like restaurant workers or unemployed. writers still should get a little bit of. our sympathy I think you know I think a. tiny bit of it should be reserved for. people that are like I've missed a. mortgage payment but still the vast. majority of it should be to people that. are being yelled at during College. commencement speeches it is very. embarrassing I thought it's very funny. if zazlov had again just take it out of. gun instead of shooting wildly in the. ground I mean it's just funny but no one. has any fun anymore Eli Roth support.

everything he does save the Sharks blah. blah blah. um we'll see everybody on patreon.com. thank you bye.