Jensen Huang, Chinese Spies, and a Humanoid Future | The Tim Dillon Show #521

- Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the Tim Dillon Show. Thank you to Jordan Jensen who had me do a guest spot. at the Beacon Theatre last night for her. New York comedy festival show. Jordan is unbelievable. and it was great to be a part of that. Her friends in the green room, eh. What is that about? I walk into the green room. Now she's from Ithaca, whatever. Jordan's a great comedian and she's from Ithaca.

and that's like the town where Cornell is. Remember that thing that we used to talk about, the Cornell gang bang? Was it a gang bang or a gang? I can't say that word because we're not... Five minutes in we can start really talking here, but for the first five minutes for the purposes. of monetization, we have to use your imagination. But we're no longer talking about the Cornell seven thing, which I guess must mean people are kind of giving up. People seem to be giving up on that one. because all the texts came out.

and everybody's like, "Oh, everyone behaved badly, which was my take. Remember my take which ended up being correct? Everyone was behaving poorly in. that situation." But whatever. So her friends are from Ithaca and I walk in the green room. and I introduce myself to her, these two, with all due respect, these two frigid bitches. And I said, "Hi, I'm Tim Dillon and I'm friends with Jordan. I'm doing a spot on the show." And they go. like that, like that.

And then they went and I said, "Where are you guys from?" And they go, "Well, we're from Ithaca." And I said, "Oh, I love Stewart's, which is a gas station in upstate New York. where they have ice cream famously. and the toppings are free. You don't have to pay for the toppings." And they went, "Oh, there isn't a Stewart's in Ithaca." And it's like, "Hey, I'm trying to find something to relate to you on. I don't know if there is or not. I don't care.

You know what it is though, right? Right. It's a gas station. That's what I'm trying to bond with you over, that there's a gas station close to where you live.". And then they're like, "Well, we. actually don't live in Ithaca. We live here now." And it's like, oh, oh, oh, the hero's journey to New York. The behaviour was unbecoming. Unbecoming. Unbecoming. There's actually not a stewards in Ithaca. Oh, I'm sorry.

I don't know that. I'm not a white trash. Anyway, sorry to the people that live in Ithaca, by the way, that may be listening. I'm sure it's great there. I'm sure it's lovely. And these two women were not good stewards of your name. or your town, and that's why I was angry at them. But Jordan, lovely, and thank you for the experience. Everyone, I guess this NVIDIA thing is huge. because we're on the brink of this AI, but we've been hearing for the last year that AI was going.

to replace everyone and kill them. Every bit of news that came out of the AI sector. for the last year was like, "Hey, AI's coming. It tricked our computer. It got out of this programme and into that programme. It's sending emails. It's trying to blackmail us. All of these programmes are sentient.

or on the edge of being sentient and they're conspiring. and they're going to eventually kill you. We're going to unleash the most powerful. force that has ever been known. We're creating intelligence. We're giving birth to a life form. We can't control it. It's the Frankenstein thing." And. that's the entire last year has been that. And you've just had to kind of deal with that. You had to just be in your car. and listening to NPR, whatever the hell you listen.

to this show, whatever, Rogan, who's ever out there talking about news. And then you're driving your job. and they're like, "Well, the AI is coming. and then you're done." And you'd have to go, "Huh." And. that was the way that you had to just, for the last year. of your life, there's this existential cloud of dread. that AI was going to come. and it was going to just vaporise you where you stand. And that was just what you had to do. as a citizen of this country.

And then the president of the United States would bring. these people to the White House. and he'd give them more money. And this is one of the reasons they all just got. shellacked in the midterms is. because he's best friends with all of these people now. and they all gave him a bunch of money to win. And they were at the White House asking for more money. and they're like, "If we don't get more money, we have no idea what this thing's going to do. We don't know. This monster needs money." So.

the whole world's, the focus of our economy, a large. part of our economy, an unhealthy percentage of our economy. is attached to AI. It is the bubble of all bubbles. A lot of people are speculating that. And it has been in the last few months, but really crystallising in the last few weeks. that it has become apparent that it's a bubble. Adoption of this technology has slowed dramatically.

It is not as profitable. When Anthropic came out with its numbers, everybody went, "Wait a minute," because Anthropic posted. double digit billions loss. and people are kind of like, "Wait, maybe we're not there yet. We're not here. This isn't the promised land. This isn't going to be the most radical. upending of the workforce that's ever seen right now. Maybe it will be in the future,

but right now it may not be." And then. we find out that Nvidia, which is the chip maker, this is a company that has grown faster than most companies. People have made so much money investing in Nvidia, not me sadly, but this is minted. Millionaires, centimillionaires. I mean, this is the company. and there's tonnes of national security implications.

to these chips that Nvidia is making. This is the whole big reason we don't want China. to take Taiwan is. because a lot of these chips are made in Taiwan. This is a very contentious national security issue. for the United States of America. So the CEO of Nvidia, Jensen Huang, am I saying that correct? Huang, Huang, Huang. Apparently this guy's cheating on his wife.

and he's doing it with a Chinese spy. Now, egg on my face, I though he was a Chinese spy. I really believe he was a Chinese spy. This is going to sound racist, folks, and I'm only going to say this because you know. how not racist I am. I believe most. Asians on college campuses are Chinese spies, and that's not a negative thing, that's a positive thing, unless they're overweight or giggling or something. Then I got Korean or whatever.

But when I see a very serious... I was just in Boston at the Wilbur Theatre. If I see a very serious Chinese person. walking on a college campus, I imagine they're a spy. And by the way, and I don't hate on them, I'm just imagining that's the deal. If I see a Chinese person on the campus of MIT, and maybe this sounds racist, but if I see a Chinese person on the campus of MIT.

and they have a stern look of purpose, like a solemn look. of purpose, I imagine, oh, you're a spy. And I had always believed that it was the job. of American pop culture to convince them not to spy. I though they all came over as spies. and it was the job of American movies, television. and music to make them defect to us. That's what I thought. I though they came over as spies.

They got into Greek life. They started doing gang rapes. See, we're past five minutes. They got into Sabrina Carpenter. I don't know. I don't know what they like. They went. to go see the movie Obsession, but whatever, death by a thousand cuts, eventually they defect to the US. because they go, "You know, it's kind of fun. here." They go to Chick-fil-A. That's what I'd always though it was. They come over as spies, they go to Chick-fil-A, they eat.

a Chick-fil-A sandwich. and they go, "America's not so fucking bad. That's what I thought." Now, a lot of people are going. to find that offensive, but I'm telling you right now, you also believe that. if you see a Chinese person at. Harvard, you think they're a spy. Sorry, you do. And I don't look down on them for that. I'm actually impressed by it. No one I know really,

certainly no one I knew when I was younger could be involved. in espionage because it takes work. First of all, you have to get admitted. to a school like Harvard so that all of my friends are out. So this guy, Jensen Huang, CEO of Nvidia, and this is the way China's going to get these tech guys. They send in the Asian females who are gorgeous. I don't know. Is this woman pretty? Can you get up the woman that he was having.

extramarital relations with? And that's a big thing in our country is the affair. It's a big thing everywhere, but I mean, it's big in our country. We have shows about it. A big thing in our country is the extramarital affair. It's not if for a lot of people, it's when. I'm not saying that's good, but so he is in an affair with this, I think, pretty attractive, but see the look of purpose in her eyes?

See the look of purpose? Make that bigger. That's a spy look. She has a look. She's locked in. That's what the younger generation would say. She's locked in. And the way the CCP works is they tell her, they go, "Go over there and fuck that guy." And she does it. And then... I mean, this is.

how the intelligence agencies work. This is how they've always worked. This is what they were doing with Epstein, except it was underage. But the CCP, Chinese, they're so good. They have people that come to America, they're born in America, they're citizens, but they're still loyal to China. and they're part of the CCP and they go back. and forth and they get involved in highly sensitive.

research project and they do a tonne of corporate espionage. That's what they're doing here. Corporate espionage, that's actually real espionage as well. And I mean, oh God, is that the wife? That's the wife? Christ almighty. That's the wife? I didn't even see that's the wife. Oh my God, that looks like one of my aunts. Oh my God.

And this guy's worth what? He's worth billions, right? Billions and billions of dollars and he owns the chips. He's Mr. Chip. Yeah. I mean, come on. You got to be able to fuck up if you own the chips. You can't. And I mean, God bless his wife, whatever her name is.

He's worth 144 billion. I mean, he's probably losing money now because he's out. The company kicked him out. Lori Huang, the couple met. as electrical engineering graduates. They married in 1985. and have been in the headlines recently following. his resignation as an NVIDIA CEO amid revelations. of extramarital affairs and related corporate. So now all of these women, by the way,

whether it's Mackenzie Bezos, all. of these women go live their best lives. They marry these tech guys. These tech guys finally start getting pussy once they're. worth a billion dollars and run the whole world. And then their wives leave, that's Mackenzie Bezos. And then the wives go out and they donate a lot of money, or Melinda Gates, because this creep was hanging out. with Jeffrey Epstein doing God knows what. And they leave these guys and they go out.

and they have these vast fortunes now, these women, and then they go donate a lot of that money. Now, we've talked about on this show, these are the new. robber barons, meaning like. these are the new industrialists. These are the new Carnegies and Rockefellers. and these are the new Vanderbilts. They are. what we would call the big bond traders in the 80s,

the people that held global economies in their hands. These guys are the new masters of the universe. Their companies. and their products, they possess more power than any group. of people maybe you ever lived. I mean, you have to go back to things like the. Ming Dynasty or whatever. If you want to talk about money and much smarter people than. me could make those comparisons. They don't command armies, but they kind of do. A lot of these people, whether it's Peter Thiel. or Palmer Lucky, they have armies of autonomous drones.

They have unbelievable, these warehouses in Long Beach, California or whatever, and they have machinery of death. and they're selling it to our government. They're selling it to Israel. They're making all these. deals all over the world. So they kind of do have armies, but they also possess more information about people. than anyone ever has. Everything you search for, everything you're watching.

and reading, and they have a composite profile. This is why the political establishment needs them. so badly is because they are going. to give people such a competitive advantage in terms of. how do we win an election? What is motivating people? What are people fearful of? How can we manipulate that? So these guys are so incredibly powerful, but they have to be controlled.

You have to control these people. How do you control these people? How do you exercise control on these people? They can't be left without any. type of oversight. So you got to send in intelligence operatives. and people that are good. and people like Jeffrey Epstein types. that can penetrate their circles,

collect information on them and either blackmail them. or monitor them or steal information from them. These people are targeted. And this guy, this fucking spy shows up and they start having an affair. and you can't... I mean, listen, you can blame him, I guess. I mean, I'm not trying to... I mean, I'm disappointed in him.

Does that make everyone feel better? I'm disappointed in him. I'm disappointed in him in the sanctity of his marriage. What? What? All right. Anyway, well, let's get that out of the way. How disappointed I am in him. And all of these, I'm so disappointed in Bill Gates. and Jeff Bezos that it didn't work. I'm disappointed that these men. would not take their vows more seriously. and trade their wives in for newer models. I can't believe that even though. that's all they do all day, every day.

I can't believe these nerds who have made trillions. of dollars and live like super villains on their own yachts. would want to go out and get some strange. It really is a shock. And as a citizen of our country, I don't know what. to believe in anymore. I don't know what to believe in anymore. If you're worth $150 billion. and you don't want to fuck that anymore, I don't know. I don't know. It's like my whole world is disintegrating. But having gotten over that shock and awe.

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And this is a political scandal. Let's read a little bit about this here. because this is a political scandal. It's involving Donald Trump. It involves Howard Lutnik, which... So here, just make that a little bigger. So Jensen Huang's stunning resignation, by the way, is it stunning? "Has sent ripples through the global tech industry. with rival chip makers itching to take advantage. of the uncertainty and others wondering if the downfall. of one of AI's biggest cheerleaders will dampen the mood.

around the civilization altering technology. "Because you remember, that's been the pitch, civilization altering, even the words they're using,". It's coming and it's revolutionising everything. "So he stepped down on Thursday following reports. of extramarital affairs, including one. with a suspected Chinese spy. Now we don't even know that she's a Chinese spy. The FBI said she was, and she did flee to China. Not a great sign, but we don't know.

So he was the very public face of a company. that dominates the market for computer chips used to train. and run AI models. So he's an integral part. of this civilization altering revolutionary technology. In March, Wang predicted NVIDIA will be grappling with a $1. trillion backlog in orders for its chips by the end.

of the year, doubling his estimate from a year earlier. So NVIDIA's like a linchpin of AI boom. It trades off with Apple. as Wall Street's most valuable company. So this is the CEO of Wall Street's most valuable company. who has been found in bed with a Chinese spy. Quote, "This could turn. what has effectively been a monopoly into a horse race again. as competitors rush. to meet growing demand." NVIDIA did not create that demand. and a shift in this part of the market could ultimately.

diversify the supply chain, create more choice for customers. and strengthen the broader AI industry in the years ahead. So there's a lot of people are now... There's AMD, Intel Broadcom, and other services, cloud services, companies like Google, Amazon, Microsoft. These other players are established. and respected within the industry for their chips. They've been trying to catch up to NVIDIA. and they haven't yet.

Let's take a look at this here. The Trump connection here, because a lot of people... Now again, Democrats won, they. slaughtered the Republicans and now... Which I wanted to say a little bit about, and I will later, about this Iran war angle, which. everyone's running out and going, "It's an oversimplification to say it was a war in Iran.". Yeah, okay, maybe, but also it was the war in.

Iran that nobody wanted. All the people that are still backing the war in Iran, the people that hate Trump. but love the war in Iran are running around going, "It's actually, people don't care about foreign policy. They don't care about the war in Iran." And we'll get to. that in a minute, but the reason this is such a big thing. here, and this is extramarital affairs. are usually private matters. The 63-year-old Jensen Huang is the leading face.

of the AI revolution with his black leather jackets. and fluff of grey hair. Yeah, it's like a midlife crisis. It's like fun. He runs a company NVIDIA which produces. highly coveted computer chips. That landed him on late night phone call basis. with Donald Trump, a promoter of the industry. Now, but he's also fucking. this Chinese business person. who has allegedly fed intelligence as well. as advanced chips to China. Alice Huang is a former executive at the Singapore based.

cloud computing company, Megaspeed. So Alice is fucking him. and she's probably like, "Show me that chip. Give me that chip. Put that chip in my pussy." And then. now that she has the chip in her pussy, she then goes to China. And I don't know how exactly this works, as I imagine the way this works. "Put the chip in my pussy. and then you forget things, whatever. He's leaving the house. He goes," Do you have that chip?

Is it still in your pussy? "And she goes," No, I put it on the nightstand. "And he goes," But it's not on the nightstand. "And she goes," Well, it's not in my pussy. I would know if it's in my pussy. "And he. goes," I don't know about that. "And he goes," Should I inspect your pussy? "She goes," You're so bad. I have to go now. "And then she takes the... So then. Trump goes about this guy, because Trump, by the way, these are Trump's two favourite.

things, extramarital affairs and billionaires. So there's no one that Trump feels. bad for more than this guy. Trump says," I think he'll be in good. shape, "Trump said, adding that. He said he has absolutely no idea. that the person in question was a spy. So Trump first learned about these concerns. because he was briefed on this, and he goes," Yeah, I guess it was mentioned. It certainly didn't make much of an impact on me. "And here's where you have to believe Trump, because it's something. that he's done his whole life is just have an affair,

probably with spies. So he goes," Yeah, you fuck people. Some of them are spies. So what do you want me to do? "No one understands this more than Donald Trump. Give Donald Trump the credit. that he is due here for consistency. Can you imagine briefing Donald Trump on this? So hey, you know that Nvidia guy. that you talk on the phone with late at night? Yeah. He's fucking this hot Chinese chick from a Singapore company.

and we think she might be a spy. Well, you know how it is. He's completely... He probably called Jensen Wang and was like," Good for you. "He's pro-extramarital affairs. and he doesn't care who they're with. He doesn't give a fuck. So I don't think it. did make an impact on him. He doesn't really care. And now that it's all out. and it's all on the street, this guy, Trump has never felt worse for a guy than Jensen Wang.

Trump is definitely back channelling with him, calling him, telling him not to worry, telling him... Trump's most likely recommending divorce lawyers. to Jensen Wang right now. Trump's going," Hey, I get it. This is tough. I've been through it. I've been through it. "Sometimes you want to fuck something else. Nobody understands that more than Donald Trump. And Donald Trump's also not like...

Donald Trump's biggest passion is not like. corporate ethics. He was like a real estate developer from Queens. He's like the guy that built that building. that just collapsed in Brooklyn on those people tragically. Fishman or Fishman, that guy that just threw. that building up and it just collapsed. And I mean, Donald Trump's not, he's not concerned with corporate ethics. He's not passionate about that. The computer chips produced.

by NVIDIA would essentially turn data centres into factories. that made raw intelligence, which could then be applied across the economy. to produce cars, new pharmaceutical drugs, advanced weapons, and seemingly unparalleled wealth. Again, this is the story that is being sold to us. Trump would regularly phone Wang to discuss the future. And here's what's so funny about this AI story, right? We already have a lot of wealth in America, so this is what's hilarious about this. This is what's very funny. This unparalleled wealth.

that AI is supposed to create, we have a lot. of wealth in America. How's that look? How does that look? People out there don't feel rich. There's a small group of people. that have an ungodly amount of money. I have a lot of money and I'm fortunate to have it. Not as much as some of the other people have, but the vast majority of my life, I didn't have money. The first 13 years of comedy, I had no money. and I didn't feel like I had any money.

Now I was having fun and hanging out with my friends. and telling jokes and I didn't care. But had I got into a car accident, I would have cared. because I'd be in medical debt. or if I had a disease or whatever. Now, so this idea that AI is going to usher in an era. of unprecedented wealth. and that it's going to benefit everybody. All of a sudden everyone's going to live forever. and have money because AI is going to cure cancer. and all these pharmaceutical drugs are. going to come from AI.

And no one believes that. because look at the inequality that we have now. Look at how vastly uneven things are now. The average age of a home buyer in America is 40 years old. Nobody can afford anything now. A smoothie is $26. And people are going, "So wait a minute, I can't afford anything now. There's a tonne of wealth that we have now,

but if AI brings in unparalleled wealth, I guess I get some of it? Maybe. Maybe I'll share in some of this. Now I won't have a job. There'll be no job for me." That's what the AI people say. They go, "There's not going to be a job. You're not needed to produce anything anymore, but we're going to keep you around. because we think you're a swell guy. and you're going to have a lot of money. because you're going to have everything you need. We're going to make sure you have everything you need." And.

then of course the argument is like, "Well, you could kind. of do a little bit of that now. You have enough money, you could do a little bit. of it now." And they go, "Nope, nope. We're not doing any of it now. Just wait till AI comes. and you're going to have everything you need." You go, "I'd kind of like healthcare now. Can I just have healthcare now? And then when AI comes, I can have all the other stuff.". "Nope, you'll wait for AI. When AI comes, you'll get it. Hey, I just need a knee operation now. I'd love to get back to work, but I can't.

because my knee, when AI comes, you'll have it all. Shut your mouth. Bananas are going to be free. We'll 3D print them. "Yeah, but I don't know, I've had headaches. and I think maybe it's a tumour. Nah, sleep it, sleep it, take a nap, walk it off. So there's nothing that's been done yet. Why don't we start edging the population into this AI. exuberance and abundance? Let's edge them with a little healthcare. Huh, a little healthcare, a little infrastructure repair?

Let's start edging them so that when we come. with AI abundance and no one has to work. and everyone has all this money. because the medical advancements, everyone's living forever. and everyone's rich and that's all good. because that's what's going to happen, right? Let's just edge them into that with a little bit. of something, which is the midterms. The midterms are a story about the cost of living. and also about being in this stupid war. that we're not winning, that's demoralising, that's cruel,

that's evil, that's bombing girls as they sit in schools. And it's dictated by Israeli interests, security interests, not American interests. It's not a controversial thing to say. The president of Israel's on the phone. with Trump all the time going," We got. to start the war up again. We got to keep bombing them. "And then American commentators are like," Why would people. blame our relationship with Israel for this? "It's like, well, the president's on the phone. saying we got to keep bombing them. And listen,

it's not like I think the Iranian regime is good, but we're not winning that one unless we nuke them. and we can't nuke them. That's the only way to win that. And I know people listen to this show. and please don't hear that part. and not any of the other ones. The president called Huang. and said," A man whose determination laid the foundations. for the explosion of super intelligence. and put America at the front of the race. An amazing man gotten to know him so well. Nvidia also donated 25 million to help Trump.

fund the construction of the Trump White House ballroom. "Get an image up of that ballroom. because the ballrooms, if nothing else, we have the ballroom. and I think that's important. A lot of people wanted other things, but you're getting a ballroom and it's... Yeah, show that one a day ago. No, not that, the renderings. The renderings are always nice, but I've toured a lot of condos. The renderings, you see the renderings, you go," Whoa. "And then you see it built. What happened?

Go to that one a day ago, up to the left, right there. And that one, yes. Okay, make that big. So this ballroom is so big, it dwarfs the white... It is a gargantuan ballroom. And this has always amazed me. because he's going to leave office, he's old, he's going to die. But his legacy will be this ballroom. I mean, years later,

and this is kind of what's funny about Trump. It's almost what you have to like about him. And again, I'm not saying he's good, please. I get it. But this is what you do have to like about Trump. Trump knows that whatever happens is going. to happen historically. People are not going to argue like whatever happens. with the pronoun battle or whatever, these things will fade, but physical real estate is the only thing that lasts.

And someone somewhere in the future is going to be walking. by this heinous obscenity, this gargantuan obscenity. and say, "What is this? Who did this?" And they're going to go, "That was President Donald Trump. He was the president and then he wasn't. and then he became the president again." And this whole era. of American history will be symbolised in this really. grotesque, garish ballroom.

that supposedly has a military bunker on the... And Trump knows that. Trump knows. that his legacy will be the buildings. You'll walk down 5th Avenue, you'll see this obsidian black sleep tower that towers. above 5th Avenue, one. of the most famous streets in the world, a few blocks from Central Park. What building is this? That's Trump Tower. Who's that dad? Who is that? That was Donald Trump. He knows this ballroom is going to be the way.

that children learn about who he is. It is about the way people in the future. will discover Trump, their entrance point into this era, which by the way, from 2016 to 2026, even though Biden was in there, it's been the era of Trump. Kids have come alive in that era. People have lived in that era. My career feels. like I look back at my career as a comedian, as podcaster,

whatever, and it's been dominated by Trump. I started this show in 2016. He had walked down the escalator in his building. And for the last 10 years, this has been the most political time that I've been alive. for, and he's been dominated by Trump. And that will fade and he will go away. and he'll start to feel like a lame duck. and eventually he'll pass away. and there'll be many complicated obituaries written about. Donald Trump, whatever, assuming he doesn't get us into a nuclear war in the next.

two years, and that is an assumption. But imagining that this stays. and this is not completely dismantled. and he's able to finish this ballroom in the next two years. because I think that's all he cares about. That's all he really cares about. And when this ballroom is completed, people. 10 years from now, 20 years from now are going to be in Washington DC. Trump will be dead. And groups of school children go.

to visit the White House all the time. And now the ballroom is a stop on the tour. You will never be able to even conceive of the White House. Is this a real photo? Is this an AI photo? Am I getting duped? This is real, right? You will never be able to ignore it. This is kind of the brilliance. of Trump and it's so interesting. He's given up on politics. He knows it's fake. People try to kill him, whatever.

Israel's blackmailing him maybe. Who knows, whatever. But at the end of the day, he knows, he's like, "Well, there's nothing you can do." You know what I mean? Whatever he did or they have him on camera doing, he's like, "You fuck a 16-year-old in 1987. and all of a sudden you got to go to. war with Iran," or whatever. He knows it's all fake. He's like, "There's nothing. to be done." He's like in this web of whatever. He's a con man and a grifter. So now he goes, "All I can do is build an obscenity, an obscenity that offends the senses.

that you cannot avoid talking about. You will never be able to give a tour. of the White House and avoid this. You will never be able to visit Washington DC. and avoid this building. It will have to be spoken about and mentioned. and it will be. his enduring legacy." I'm. telling you, the ballroom is going to go... We joke around about the ballroom. It's like a joke because it is. That's his legacy and he kind of knows it's kind of amazing. He's like, "It's not going to be immigration.

I'm not going to kick everyone out who's selling churros on. the sea train, but what I am going to do. is build something that cannot be ignored. and you will not be able to dismiss it. because it is going to be so big. and so central. in the nation's capital. and it's going to be attached to the home of the president.

So every president that's ever elected is going to have. to look out at this casino that he built.". And that's kind of the fascinating thing about him. and that's the enduring legacy. And hey, I mean, that's kind of... I'll tell you this, there's something a little. impressive about that.

Not ideal, but this is going to be such a huge thing. Let's talk a little bit about Howard Lutnik, who's the secretary of commerce. Howard Lutnik, by the way, had the good luck. to not be at... He's the Canter Fitzgerald guy. who wasn't in the World Trade Centre during nine eleven. because he brought his kids to school. Good stroke of luck there.

Lucky man. Luck, luck, luck. Lot of luck. I'm a lucky man. So Howard Lutnik and everyone else. that he knows is burning alive. and he's telling his children, I guess, "Do good today." So. senior White House officials... And what is this? Is this... Yeah, yeah. Okay. So senior White House officials are discussing whether. Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnik should be pushed out in the.

wake of the spy scandal surrounding Nvidia's now former. CEO Jensen Wang. Two people familiar. with the situation said Thursday, leakers. A growing number of lawmakers criticised Lutnik over the. administration's refusal to add dozens of Chinese companies. to a key US trade blacklist. and over whether the government was properly overseeing. NVIDIA's exports to China. Criticism of Lutnik's actions predates Thursday's. resignation of Jensen Wang,

who announced he would step down. The charge that Lutnik has not done enough. to restrict AI chip shipments to China has bubbled up. as the fallout, but it didn't start there. Here's the thing about Howard Lutnik. Howard Lutnik is a. member of the permanent, like the financial government, people that are not really concerned with.

who wins the election. He's a fan of Trump, he likes Trump, he's friends with Trump, whatever. But again, he's there to protect the interests. of a certain group of people that have. financial interests. and those financial interests are not always directly. reflected by the policies of who's in office. So Howard Lutnik's main concern is not like rebuilding.

middle America or fixing our cities or whatever. Howard Lutnik thinks on a global scale. and he thinks about. how industries are developing. and how exactly America, and by America we mean again, this small group of people, their financial interests, how those. interests can be benefited. So much like Jared Kushner, he's kind.

of doing his own thing. Obviously he's within the scope of the administration, he's carrying out orders to a degree, but he's also advising the president. He's an advisor to the president. Donald Trump is probably taking a lot of his advice. So Howard Lutnik's saying like, "Yep, these guys, we got to watch them. These guys not so much. Here's what we should do. Here's how we should proceed." You know Howard Lutnik again, the guy who went to Epstein's Island who's like,

"I never really even knew the guy." I think he was on. Epstein's Island with his family, like barbecuing, whatever. So he's again, part of a class. of people that sits above government. Howard Lutnik's one of those people. He's not a government employee the way that you would think. of other people like, "I serve at the pleasure of the president. I re-watch the West Wing because I love the show. It's corny, but it's amazing and it's a great show. and it's well acted and well written. and it's so fun to watch. Makes you feel like, wow, America, rah,

rah." And I have a slight cold, so I'll re-watch the West Wing and my cat likes it. He sits there and watches it. And you get this idea. that all these people come into the administration, they're like, "I serve at the pleasure of the president.". And they go all these good hearts. and they're all picked from different industries. and they're picked. because they really add something to the... And there's no Howard Lutnik on the West Wing. There's no billionaire guy who's brought in.

to the administration to. completely manipulate the President of the United States. That character on the West Wing doesn't exist. It's like Sam Seaborn and CJ Craig. and all these people. that are like, "We really believe in things. We love Jed Bartlett because we saw him when he was talking. to 10 people in New Hampshire. and now he's given the state of the union.". But there's not like Howard Lutnik. of the West Wing who's like, "Here's a shady financier.

who's brought in, whose company exploded. and he happened to be packing lunch for his kids.". And then he's in there running his own. He's got his own thing going on. It's like Howard Lutnik's got his own thing going on. And I know people that know him a little bit and whatever. I'm sure he's not like... And I don't know him or really, I can't speak. to his character, but in Howard Lutnik's world,

he's not like a rare guy. There's not a rare thing that he would care only about. his interests and the interest of people that he respects. And these are the people that he has dinner with. and the people that he vacations with. and the people whose islands he visits. I mean, it's not a rare thing that he would have those. interests as opposed to like, "Hey, how are teachers in Michigan affording..." What? Huh? So he's there to kind of manipulate the President. of the United States in any way that he can.

And he's put there because the group of people. that when the president is staffing the administration, they go, "We need this guy in here. because this guy's going to... He's our guy. He represents our interests." So he's put there. and he gets along with Trump. I'm sure he's a fun guy, whatever that means. But his job is, make no mistake, in the same way.

that Jared Kushner's job, it's. to steer the president away from the country. and people and steer that person. into the world of. finance, of tech. Obama's team was chosen by a lot of ex-city group guys. Go back to George W. Bush, Hank Paulson, these are all ex-Goldman guys. that then go work in the White. House and then leave the White House.

So you have this revolving door of private industry, whether it's finance, the defence industry, tech, and they're in the White House. to just manipulate the President of the United States. That's never been more obvious than it is now. There's never been a time in our country that. that's been more blatant, that the staff. around the person is more important than the person. It's more important than the actual president. I'm not exempting Trump of responsibility. for the things he's done or whatever,

but I'm saying it's never been more essential. that you look at the people around the... And nobody barely knew who they were for years. George Stephanopoulos worked with Clinton, whatever. But it is really important now to look at. who are the people around though? Who is in that room? Who are these people that are sitting. around the President of the United States. and who are they loyal to? What industries do they come from? What are those industries lobbying for? And how is that going to affect the advice that they give.

to the President of the United States? Are they in an intelligence agency? Are they spies? I mean, I know that Jensen Wang is fucking whoever he's. fucking, but are there spies in the White House. for another country, another intelligence agency? Do we know that? I bet we don't. So that's all very interesting too. Who are these people that want to give up. billion dollar... I mean, these jobs that make them hundreds of millions.

of dollars, they have all this net worth. and supposedly they all have to freeze their assets. and not profit from their positions, which we know is a lie, but supposedly they all have to do that. Who are these people that just want. to leave the private sector. to go work in the glamorous Washington White House. where all they are is their backgrounds people look into, they're shamed for their actions, they are put under a microscope. We have all this evidence that all of these people running. for public office now, a lot of them are going,

"Why would I run for public office? Why would I leave the private sector with all its money. and relative anonymity. and I could do what I want and make all this money? And why would I leave that to go run for Congress. or go run for the Senate when then. if anything I ever did in college is fleshed out, I did. an offensive Halloween costume I have to apologise for, something about my past comes out I don't like." Well, okay, but how about let's think about cabinet picks.

So why would people leave these lucrative jobs in the. private sector to go work in the. presidential administration's cabinet? Maybe they have other motives. and those motives are to get rich. or to advance the interest of a certain group. or a certain country or a certain sector of the economy? That's possible. And then a guy like Lutnik might go, "It's getting too hot. I need to leave now." Like any good gangster, Lutni might go, "It's getting a little hot.

It's getting a little hot in the grill. Let me get out of here." Huang got popped, people getting popped. This is a mob. We all talk about Russia. It's a mafia state. Oh, Russia's a mafia state. Give these people Russian names. Give the Russian names. Call them Igor, call them Oleg. And then all of a sudden it doesn't look. that fucking different. How different does it look? Well, Russia's a criminal mafia. Now obviously I know Russia sucks, blah, blah, blah.

I wouldn't be able to do my job in Russia. I get it. I'm not into Russia, although I did want to go to St. Petersburg and eat at the restaurant. where Invented Chicken Kiv and was told by Poland. because it's a NATO country I can't. And then my private jet guy wouldn't fly me there. And I was like, "I have nothing to do with the war actually. to the dumb Polish hotel clerk. I have nothing to do with the war. and I don't love the Ukraine anyway, so I just wanted to go to a restaurant. I was not allowed to." Chicken Kiev Russia. Yeah, look it up. It was invented...

I believe it was invented in St. Petersburg. Let's see. Yeah, they're not going to tell you. Yeah. Well, there's a place in Moscow too, but the St. Petersburg is so gorgeous. where Putin's actually from, but I couldn't go. But it is very interesting. We keep talking about Russia. But now we look at all these people around the president. and we go, "Oh, these people are all here. for whatever reason." Mint Mobile, I'm telling you right now, so many people are coming up. to me and they go, "I'm paying way too much. for my wireless." And I said, Mint Mobile took what's wrong.

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My new obsession is these new Android robots that are coming. and how many of them we're going to have. I read about this a lot. It interests me. Let's take a little look here. Earth currently hosts about 10,000 humanoid robots. Now, I don't know what they mean by that. Do they mean like the food delivery robots in LA, like the little buckets with the wheels and the googly eyes? It's about 10,000 humanoid robots,

but some published scenarios foresee roughly one. billion by 2050. One billion humanoid robots by 2050. At the same time, human population growth is slowing. The United Nations world population prospects 2024 median. projection places the global human population. at about 8.2 billion in 2025, rising to a peak. of roughly 10.3 billion in the mid 2080s. before beginning a gradual decline.

Demographer Joseph Chami has argued, Chami, Chami, has argued that. as humanoid robots become more numerous. and capable, it may become useful. to count them alongside humans as a second population. That raises a simple but provocative question. When, if ever, could Androids become as numerous. as human beings? So this is an interesting question of how...

And again, I don't think it's happening tomorrow. How soon are robots going to be integrated into. American life and global life? Because we don't... Listen, I complain endlessly about the lack. of humanity in interactions. and the way that people, they already. kind of talk like robots. I was telling a friend of mine recently, you go. to a restaurant and all they say is, "We're fully committed this evening.

We're fully committed this evening." They don't have... Nobody says, "Oh man, sorry. I wish I could help you." But it's the same words. that are used, uniform, the same words, "We are fully committed this evening. We are fully committed this evening.". So we're already there. We've turned people into robots as much as we can, and I'm sure that will continue. The Android model distinguishes two fundamentally different. ways the population can grow. Present day production is direct.

Factories produce new robots, whether. or not existing robots reproduce themselves. Interesting. A future robot mediated channel would be. replicative in a broader technological sense. The installed Android population would itself contribute. materially to the industrial capacity. that produces additional Androids. Robots making robots, robots making robots. This distinction matters. because rapid market adoption is not the same thing. as autonomous reproduction.

So you have robots in factories producing. more robots. Eventually, eventually, if Jensen Huang can put his dick back in his pants, then we'll get robots. producing robots. It's like the March of the Wooden Soldiers, which we're not going to play. because I'll get demonetized, but boy, do I love that. And it's a great Thanksgiving. We did something on the Patreon.

Thanksgiving, but Thanksgiving's coming up. This is not our Thanksgiving episode, obviously, but Thanksgiving is coming up. And that's a great watch with your family, is. March of the Wooden Soldiers. But here's what makes me, this is what this begins. to crystallise. And I don't want to be bleak about this, you know me. But once they have the robots, what are the people doing here is my question.

Once the humanoid robots are here, don't they have. to start killing large numbers of people? What do we do? We bring in all the people, we have all the immigrants coming in. They're having more kids than the. population that's native born. There's a million arguments about all of that. We're not rehashing now for the point. of this particular segment. But now we have all these people coming in, population growth with the native born population of the US.

and a lot of countries is slowing. The immigrants will eventually probably. start having less kids, whatever. They won't be able to afford it or it'll get whatever. And now we have all of these humanoid robots doing a lot. of tasks and jobs. And then apparently you have a global super elite. And then what happens? Are we supposed to believe that at no point. do the global super elite go, "You know, this planet's got a lot of people.

It's got a lot of people. And I don't know that we need..." Because at that point, the robots are servicing the elite. Right now, a lot of the service jobs, whatever they are, maids, nannies, landscapers, whatever, tutors, whatever you care about, and a lot of those service sector jobs are very plentifuls. in cities like New York with wealthy populations. that utilise that kind of labour.

Makeup artists, people getting their nails done, first world shit. When robots are doing a lot of that for these people. that have the money, when robots are performing a lot. of those tasks, and maybe AI is doing some of it, AI robots, whatever, it's a combination. What are we going to do with the people? This is why I've always kind of. been a critic of immigration. I go, not that there's something wrong.

with immigrants coming here, but where are. the jobs for these immigrants? Where are the jobs for the people that live here? Where are the jobs for anybody? This whole idea that we're just going to have an abundance, it's going to be abundant. And there's going to be abundance and nobody's going to have. to pay for anything, but then how does that work? And who's deciding that? Who are the stewards of that new world? Mark Zuckerberg, Bill Gates, Jeff Bezos, Jensen Wang, whatever suit is in the White House. who doesn't matter because he's surrounded by a bunch.

of criminals and he himself is probably a criminal or she. Don't want to box you out ladies, but what exactly are we doing? Humans and Androids may eventually form parts. of the same productive network rather than two nearly. independent populations. Can you imagine if, by the way, if you think we're getting outworked. by Chinese people in factories, can you imagine robots? How embarrassing that's going to be? Humans and androids may eventually form parts.

of the same productive network rather than two. nearly independent populations. Humanoid deployment could affect human fertility, mortality, migration, care, income and labour demand. While the human economic base would continue. to shape android production, a fuller model could. therefore include explicit cross-coupling, shared network effects and resource constraints. Energy deserves particular attention. Billions of mobile computationally intensive machines. together with data centres.

and communications networks supporting them. could represent a substantial new electricity demand. So now we're really going. to start replacing the third world sweatshop people. Now you're fucked. Hey, third world sweatshop people, you're going, you're out. We replaced American industrial people. with third world sweatshop people. because we didn't want to pay Americans to live in houses. and go on one vacation a year. and send their kids to college.

We said we're going to bring in immigrants to depress wages. and we're also going to ship the jobs. to places like Pakistan or Taiwan or Mexico or whatever. or China, whatever made in China. And now that we have humanoid robots coming, the sweatshop worker. who's had it pretty good working in a sweatshop. for a few dollars a day, pretty nice gig. Sweatshop, a lot of them are children,

but it's a pretty nice gig. to be a nine year old and make a sweater. It's a pretty nice thing to have a sense of purpose. And you go, "Oh, that's actually terrible, Tim." Really? The rest of them are soldiers. The rest of those 10 year olds are on the battlefield. So it's nice to go to the fucking pillowcase factory. So all these children who've had it pretty fucking easy, instead of working in diamond mines. or being child soldiers, they are allowed.

to work at the sweat shop. They're now going to be replaced by robots. So now what? If we start replacing child. sweatshop labour with humanoid robots, then. what the fuck are you going to do? You're going to have a bunch of unemployed child soldiers. Problem, problem. I'm sure Howard Lutnik will have the solution for.

that because that's what's coming. You're going to have to fight for your job. I'm talking to you. Child, listen to me now, you child in a factory. Listen to me now. I know you may not be thrilled with the way things are, but it's going to get a hell of a lot worse when you're. working in a factory alongside a robot. So I'm telling you, but this is how, but then how does it all work? How does it all work? This is my question. What happens?

If people don't have gigs, they don't have jobs. and they're supposed to like... And I don't believe people should work to get diagnosed. with a kidney problem, by the way. I believe people should have healthcare. and I'll gladly pay for that. I'd rather not have my taxes raised so. that we could have chaos in the streets. DSA freaks, do something good. Give people healthcare, do something nice.

And if that's what the DSA does. and go, let's give everyone healthcare. and not do every day is not like kill Whitey, then I'm all for that. But they can't stop with the Kill Whitey. They just like it too much. They just like Killing Whitey too much. But maybe not, let's see. But I mean the things like this Brooklyn building collapse. should really unite people. and go, whoa, whoa, whoa, what the fuck is going on? You shouldn't be able to continually build shit.This.

guy's been fined multiple times. He's trying to get away from these regulations. It's a terrible fucking story. Let's look at this a little bit. God, Winston Brown quietly watched. as NewYork City firefighters look. for survivors in the rubble of a collapsed building in. Brooklyn after a deadly tragedy. that he blamed on careless developers, leading rapid gentrification. I've never gentrified one area. Isn't that nice?

I've lived in only the wealthiest areas, truly, and. because I will not gentrify. I live in all white areas that are wealthy. Sorry, you know why I'm an ally. I'm actually an ally. I'm so racist, I'm woke. I'm so racist, I'm woke. Thank you very much. I see one minority, I run. And you know why? Because I'm against gentrification. Call me racist. I'm like not gentrifying the area. What do you want? Am I gentrifying the Hamptons?

I think not. Investigations have only just begun, but Bowen said he believed the property owners may have cut. corners in their plants to construct a nine story building. Of course they did. Now, and I'm going to try to read this without being antisemitic, but we know that the guy who built this building is going. to be named like Israel Steinberg, Katz, Abramowitz, Cohen, Howard Lutnik. And I'm going to try, I'm trying. It's all about making money. They didn't. care about the danger.

Bowen, a local businessman, told AFP. as he looked onto the heap of bricks. Listen, you're killing people. When people die in something like. this, you've murdered them. And when the buildings are completed, the rent is sky high. Somebody said, developers want black people out. of the neighbourhood and we're not going like. that and now they're killing us. Well, listen, emotions are high and they should be. because this is terrible.

All right, we don't have to keep reading. We get it. People that are developing. and that are paying fines and not being shut down. and still getting licences. and permits to continue work on these buildings. and if something like this happens, this is murder. Truly, this is absolute murder. And I think that. this is the way it should be looked at.

It should absolutely be looked at as murder. Yeah. I mean, this is why I have never gentrified. I don't do it. I won't do it. I'm not trying to kick people out of their areas. You live where you live. I live where I live. And that's progress. I'm not trying to gentrify anybody. This is terrible. I hate this and I hate the people.

because I like when you go... This is what New York's all about is groups of people. that live near each other, not necessarily with each other, but this is horrible and the person responsible for this. And I don't know who it is that's responsible for this, but they should be held to account. I mean, they should be held to account. I mean, they should be criminal charges. This is probably a negligence thing.

And by the way, eventually this is all going. to be the argument for AI. An unregulated society with no consequences. for anyone will be the argument for AI government. It'll be the argument for AI in the private sector. It'll be the argument for AI everywhere. A society where you can buy your way out. of consequences will be the argument. for the universal standards of AI 1000%. If you don't want to give cops the resources,

and I'm not saying you should let them run around. and do whatever they want, but if cities become dangerous. because you get rid of cops, you will just have better surveillance tech, more autonomous private companies will step into. that space and fill that void. People will have less rights, you'll have private security, you'll have all of that stuff. So if you don't have strong government regulation. that cannot be avoided by people buying their way out of it.

and the cronyism, this all becomes the argument. for just taking people out of all of these situations. because people, you can blackmail them. They have dicks that they want to put in Chinese spies. They have kids that they're trying to get out of trouble. because their kids did something horrible. They have financial interest. They have embezzled money. that you know about that they'd go to jail for. People are people and that human element.

that makes life interesting and makes life good. and what makes art good. and what makes all of this experience on earth worth it. because humans are unpredictable. and they all have complex histories. I mean, the woman outside of a restaurant last night comes. up to me, just schizophrenic woman. She's young, not bad looking. and she's in all new clothes, new bag. I'm standing outside her restaurant. She goes, "Hello?" I go, "What?" She goes, "Excuse me?" I go, "I don't work here." I though she. though I worked at the restaurant.

And she goes, "I clearly have headphones in. Why the fuck are you talking to me? Just a crazy person." She's a crazy person. And first of all, I'll punch her in the. face, first of all, number one. But number two, I didn't. But number two, she was just a crazy. person but didn't look homeless, probably just had a schizo break. And me and my friend spent the whole dinner. going, "What happened to her? Was she thrown out tonight? Did she take a drug? Did she have a schizo break?

Did she have a nervous break?" And isn't that. what makes it all interesting? That's what makes the world interesting. And she was kind of outside the restaurant. She was leering in like the girl from the ring. and we didn't know why. And she would look at us with her eyes and she didn't blink. It was a horror movie, but that's what life is. That's what's interesting about life. You eat a profiderol or something. and you stare and go, there she goes. And she'd walk across the street and come back. and then we go, "What's going on in there?

What's she up to?" And then you start having dark thoughts. You go, "Is she AI? Did she escape from something? Is she an MK Ultra victim? What's going on? Did she just come out of the new Jeffrey Epstein's new. townhouse or wherever the hell that is? Who is this person? What does she know? And what secrets does her brain unlock? Maybe nothing. But that's what makes human beings. and humanity so interesting is how unpredictable it is.

and how vulnerable human beings are. to all kinds of measures of control. AI is going to come. and AI is going to fill the void of. that unpredictability. And that's how it's going to be sold to America. and that's how it's going to be sold. And that's how you're going to find a lot. of people beginning to warm to it. And you're going to have to be careful about that as well. because AI has.

another set of problems as well. But we feel for Jensen. If you make the kind of money he's made. and you revolutionise the world in the way that he's had, you should be able to have sex with a Chinese spy. And don't be mad at me from what I said earlier. I think I would love to be a... Do you know how proud my family would be if I was a Chinese. spy and not this fucking guy that calls Megan Markle a cunt.

or whatever the hell I do? Do you know how proud I would be if I had a child? I don't have a child, but if I had a child. and they were a Chinese spy, you know how proud I would be? In fact, the best thing you can be in America now. is a Chinese spy. It's the most... You couldn't be. prouder of your son or daughter. If I had a son or a daughter. and they go, "How's Maggie doing?" And I said,

"She defected to China." Soon in the future, everyone would go, "Wow, you did the right thing. You raised a good kid." I go, "Yep. Haven't heard from her in years. She started fucking the CEO of a chip company. and now she's defected to China." And everyone would just. kind of like nod their head. and go, "You raised a good gal.". And I go, "She was always special. We knew it when she was young. Always special. Good night.