Civil War: The Original Heated Rivalry | The Tim Dillon Show #481
- From the free press. This is honestly, and I'm Barry Weiss. We started this podcast nine years ago. because a white woman in Minnesota served a chicken. quesadilla to a man. and was immediately accused of cultural appropriation. That man's name was George Floyd. When JK Rowling had the audacity to suggest that penises. and vaginas were different, we did a 72 part series on the fallout from her comments,
including interviewing many of her slaves. After I was asked to leave the New York Times. because I was too much of a rogue. and a truth teller, I started the free press. because I really wanted to encourage. and foster open discussion. and debate between people in New York, Miami Tel Aviv. I am a huge supporter of freedom of speech.
It's one of the things that I find most important. When David Ellison called me. and said, would you like to run CBS news? I had to think about it 'cause I really enjoyed my blog, my 17 listeners and this podcast. But I ultimately decided that $150 million was enough money. to come into CBS news and turn it around. The scenes unfolding out. of Minneapolis are incredibly disturbing. People are looking at their televisions,
and they're not recognising this as America. So we thought at most important, right now to speak. to Greg Bino, who is the commander at large of Ice, who's now been demoted, and he's now the Mare d. of an Italian restaurant in Paramus, New Jersey. Without further ado, Greg Bino. Greg, how does it feel to have gone. through such a whirlwind in the last two weeks? - The pizza. I make it, they fly out to the window.
- Now you're working at a restaurant, an Italian restaurant. - Restaurant. They call it Anthony Son. - Some people say that ice actions in Minnesota. equate to fascism. What would you say to them? - Fashion. I wear the bow tie every day at work. I do the bow tie. I got the, the rine, I got to the bow, tie the jacket. Nice with the, the the fill out here. baby. Want a little bit.
- Do you have anything to say to the families. of the victims in Minnesota? - Everybody love it. When I cook, I take my cookie. Espresso. Espresso, little espresso. Give everybody little espresso. I got a nice bigger conello Bella Conello conello. For everybody that wishing me better, I give a ta ta. - That's beautiful. Well, Greg Bino, thank you so much.
for coming on and joining us here on, honestly, and I'm Barry Weiss, ladies. and gentlemen, welcome to the Tim Dillon Show. What a week. Lot to discuss here. Lot to lot to break down, lot to react, to. reaction. That's what the, what the internet wants. They want a reaction video, react to it. React and there's.
a lot going on. You know, there's a tonne, there's a tonne happening, a tonne. over there in Minnesota. Some of it quite violent, some of it quite violent, some. of it actually regrettable, which is not a strong enough word. There's no words that are strong enough. You know, when someone gets shot, who I don't think should have been shot,
and you say it's regrettable, people are gonna get angry with you. And they're, you're, you said it was regrettable. Well, it's terrible. It's horrible. You know, we gotta take a, a, a chill pill. That's what my aunt used to say. She goes, why don't you take a chill pill? You know, when, when the kids are going, you know, the kids are kind of climbing the walls.
and then your mother, your aunt, or a, you know, some, a woman from the neighbourhood. I don't wanna gender it, but that's not something dads said. That was a mom expression. Hey, take a chill. If your father said that he was gay. And there's nothing wrong with that, by the way, I know a lot of gay people who are actually great parents. I'm not one of them. But if your father said, take a chill pill, he was gay. It's something that the woman said, you know, like,
take a chill pill. And that's what we have. to do across the board. You know, you, you, you've all been over somebody's. home when their kids were losing it. and they had to turn around to their children. and go, why don't you take a few minutes. and get yourself together?
And that's what we have to do. We wanna zoom out for a minute and look at how we got here. I think it's important. I think a lot. of people are very emotional. and understandably so, justifiably so. And this isn't breaking down politically necessarily, the way people think it would. There's a lot of right wing people. that are concerned about the government.
cracking down on protest. and putting the boot on the neck. of citizens. There's a lot of right wing people that believe that. So it's not necessarily something, you know, broadly speaking, are Republicans more supportive. of ice than Democrats? Absolutely. However, when you go.
deeper and you look at these shootings, a lot of. Republicans, conservatives in some. of the most prominent ones are dismayed over. how these events played out. How they were handled. And, you know, being sceptical of government. in any of its manifestations, which is something a lot.
of rightwing people share. It's understandable why they would look at these events. where people got shot needlessly. There were many ways to subdue a Renee Goode. or an Alex Preti, whatever, without using lethal force. A lot of right wing people are going, wait a minute. So how we got here, we gotta back up. And I think it is, it's important to do.
because most of what we talk about now is completely ripped. from context. Meaning there is no backstory. Nobody understands why things are happening. You are shown a fragment of an event. on your phone, and then you have a, a reaction to it. Immigration is the biggest issue in the world. It's not a uniquely American issue.
It is not even a uniquely, you know, western issue. Although it has driven political. instability in, in Western countries. Things like Brexit in the uk. But you could also look at France. and Italy, Europe, the uk, the Netherlands.
All of these areas have experienced some. form of migration. that has intensified over the last decade, but really over the last five, five to seven years. And the difficulty. with absorbing those waves of immigrants. and assimilating them into a culture that's existed.
for hundreds, thousands, whatever of years. And the difficulty assimilating them into an economic system. that is rapidly changing. and in a lot of countries deteriorating. that difficulty has proven. to be the catalyst for a lot of political movements. and candidates in those countries.
that are trying to deal with. that issue in a myriad of ways. Some people are pro proposing deportations, some people are proposing a freeze of government benefits. Some people are proposing changes. to existing law. that that allows refugees in large numbers. to come into the country to claim political asylum.
It's not a uniquely American issue. and it's not an issue. that has any easy solution. There's none. There's not, there's no, this is never happened. before in history where this amount of people migrated. to another part of the world. this quickly. Usually this was done with through war.
This was done over a long period of time. So it's been difficult for a lot of these societies. Small, relatively homogenous societies. Not only racially, but culturally. Societies have cultures. If you go to Spain, you're gonna notice it's a lot different than Louisiana. If you go to Louisiana, you're gonna notice it's a lot different than New York. And New York is gonna be different from Kansas.
We're just talking about states within one country, different countries have vastly different cultures. So if somebody comes into a country that has a culture. that's existed for, who knows, but a very long time, and that culture has established norms. and then people come in from a radically different culture.
that's also existed for a very long time, that has its own set of values. That's hard. I don't know anyone who, who thinks that's easy. I know dumb people that don't care. And it's your absolute right to be dumb and to not care. or to be so rich you are unaffected. Or that your political ideology is some version of be nice, that everyone should kind of be nice.
and things tend to work out. If everybody is just nice, that's a, that's a faction. of our, of our society that just believes. that the words be nice will heal the divides. And that's okay. You're entitled to have that. I know a lot of people with that. They're, they're wealthy. Their, their privilege, globalisation has been a boon to them. They're okay. They're doing good. And thinking about any of these issues. doesn't interest them.
They just don't wanna do it. They don't care. They're unaffected. Their family is unaffected. And so none of these things tend to interest them. They tend to ignore all these issues. 'cause they're hard to talk about. They're sticky issues. They're not dinner party issues, really. They're not. They're things people talk about in private. They talk about in their home with close friends.
These are not issues that you tend to talk about, like on a job interview per se. You know, you don't, you don't open with, there's a lot of immigrants. It's not your opener on a job interview. It's interesting, a lot of immigrants here now, interesting. Some of them are cool. I, it, it's just interesting. Like that's not an opener. A job. You can't do it. Nor should you, I'm not advising that.
But these are real issues. You can tell they're not, these things aren't being made up. Now you might just, you might go, well, they shouldn't be issues. Well, good for you that you feel that way. It doesn't matter. They're, they're hugely. impactful issues. Trump was elected twice on this issue. A lot of the European leaders right now.
look at Nigel Farage in the uk. Any of the, you know, candidates. where the wind is at their back, meaning that they're, they're going up in the polls. Most of them have hard line positions on immigration. They want less immigration. Most people in countries when. they are polled, including America, want less immigration.
That's bipartisan now, yes. Do Republicans want, you know, whatever, you know, you could, you could, you could politically assign. But on the whole, most people want less immigration. across the board when they are pulled. There are very few people that want more immigration. They do exist. They do exist. Many of them are billionaires.
Many of them are incredibly wealthy people. Many of them are radical libertarians. Many of them don't believe in a state. Some of them are fart to the left. where they also don't believe in a state. and they're an narco, communist, whatever. But the vast majority of people when they are polled, want less immigration. Now, I don't think.
that the people that want less immigration want, want what's happening now. I don't think that people. who look at what's happening now, the ice rates, how random they are. that they're taking people who've lived in the country 20, 30 years, they've raised their children here. Their children are citizens. Some of their children served in the United States military.
They're, you know, productive members of society. They are not criminals. and they are being torn away from their families at a high. school graduation. They're being, you know, abducted. by guys in masks. who are roaming American cities, grabbing people out of their houses and deporting them. Some of them to an El Salvador in prison. Nobody.
Very few people, I'm not gonna say nobody. because there will be, there will be people that want that. And they are pretty vocal about that. They do want that specifically that, but I don't think the vast majority of people even. that want less immigration. I'm, I'm, I'm, 'cause we obviously the people. that want more immigration. or whatever, of course they wouldn't want that. But let's just talk about the people. And again, it's a majority that, that every poll. that want less immigration,
I don't think want this. because it's, it's fundamentally. cruel and inhumane. And it doesn't take into account any. specific considerations for. people that have been here a long time. People whose children of, you know, are citizens.
and have been here a long time. So when you do these random raids, they provoke a response. that is, is, is, you know, justifiably, you're gonna provoke a lot of anger. because this is barbarism. When you go on the, the Department of Homeland Security. social media accounts and you joke about doing these things. and you make memes about doing these things.
and it's completely unserious. and you're not treating this with any gravity. and you are exhibiting kind. of a sophomoric behaviour. and people look at it. This also is disgusting. to people who, again, many of them would say. that with AI coming, with automation, coming.
with a large number of undocumented people here already, that it's, it's, it's difficult to imagine. how bringing in more people is going to help in. that group of people. They still look at this stuff. and go, this is. terrible folks. I cannot, I cannot stop talking about Stash.
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LC and SEC registered investment advisor in invest involves. risk offer subject to terms and conditions. If the Trump administration came, came to power. and said, listen, we're either going to do a compromise, which I saw Rand Paul talk about at Rogan, it was a quick clip where you're not getting voting rights. because you came in illegally and you're not a citizen. And if we give you voting rights, you'll just see Texas. and many other states flip blue.
and be democratic states forever. and you'll live in a one party system. In the same way that there are certain Republicans would. love to use these ice raid by the way. We'll talk about this in a minute, to, to cancel elections. or press it turn out and they wanna live. in a one party system. But if we give everybody voting rights overnight, you are going to politically change the country in ways. that again, nobody voted for. The problem with this is that nobody voted for it. Nobody voted to bring in.
however many people we have here. We don't even know. That's the other problem. People are like, it's 10 million, it's 80 million, it's 50 million. I don't know what it's, I don't think anyone does. I don't think it's 80 million. and I don't think it's 10 million. I think it's like probably, I don't know, 25, 30 million people, whatever it is, nobody voted for it. So if you bring in 30 million people. and then just give them voting rights overnight. and say now you guys can vote. And that fundamentally changes. the political structure of, of the entire country.
by flipping some of the biggest states, then no one voted for that. You've brought in people to do that. That's not democratic. Nobody voted for this. Nobody in Texas voted for it. So Rand Paul's compromise was, well, people can just. exist, they can work. We're not gonna deport them.
and they could kind of live in the shadows. and some of them may apply for citizenship and whatever. I think if you look at the amount of people that Biden. and Kamala brought over, I think it was a, you know, the, there's, there's, again, it's hard to get numbers, but there's probably about 10 million people that came over. Yeah, let's watch Rand Paul here. 'cause he's, I don't wanna make a massive. what he's suggesting in saying, because we're gonna go through every. angle of this here, by the way. We're gonna try to do it somewhat dispassionately.
because I do, I I have an interest in less people. getting shot in the head. Rand Paul, - You're gonna shock you. I'm a moderate on this. I actually think that most. of the people that are here and working lawfully. and can pass a background check, I would give them no welfare. and I would, I give them no citizenship, no voting privileges, but you can. work and we won't arrest you. - Okay, no citizenship, but a potential path to citizenship. - I think it's better just to say the trade off is this, that you came illegally right now the law says you gotta go.
back and you'll never get in basically. So the compromise is you came in illegally, you just don't get to be a citizen. Your kids will be now the new ones, the 8 million. that might have come in last year, some of them need. to go back and particularly any of 'em committing crimes. The compromise I'm offering is. different than anybody's ever talked about. Everybody thinks the compromise has. to include voting and citizenship. If in Texas we gave amnesty. and let, I don't know, a couple million people vote. immediately, Texas becomes Democrat for the next 20 years. So that's what it's all about, right? It's about voting. - Thanks so much. Alright, so it, listen, that's an idea.
What I find, you know, Biden brought in 10 million people. or at some, some, some number. Now there are, there are disagreements about whether those. people are fleeing persecution. Some of them are, some of them are coming. for economic reasons. I I bet a good amount of them. Most people that live in the regions we're talking about. can claim with legitimacy to be fleeing something.
because those areas are deeply unstable. And we're not blameless in that either, by the way, we're not, it's not our fault that every, all. of those regions, but that's also not lost on me. that we've conducted a lot of wars in the Middle East, we destabilised areas of Latin America. And then the argument is, is the debt. that you owe those people to fling your borders open. and destroy your own country.
And then none of us voted for that either. A lot of us didn't vote for it. Some of us did. And when I say destroy the country, it's not simply. because, you know, we're bringing in people. that don't look white or anything like that. There's a certain amount of wealth inequality. that we're, and we're there by the way, where the working class. of this country has less and less power. The biggest proponents.
of immigration when I was younger were pro. capitalist Koch brothers, libertarians, that realised that you could break the back. of the working class by bringing in people. that would do jobs for a lot less. and unions would have less power. and workers in general would have less power. And the critics of immigration when I grew up were the left,
were not usually from the right, they were from the Buchanan, right? More the paleo conservatives that worried about borders. and language and culture. But the economic critique was from the left. It was not from, you know, the, the chamber. of commerce or any of those people. They thought you could grow the economy. by bringing in more consumers. because immigrants would obviously come in. and consume things and also they would take a lot. of the jobs you just didn't wanna pay Americans to do.
And then we could build houses. and buildings with a lot less in the, in the same way that. on the high end, in the tech world, the reason. that Elon Musk and all these guys want H one bvs is, is. so they can bring in Indian. and Chinese indentured servants who will work, who sleep in bunk beds and work at their companies. They don't care that Americans aren't. gonna get those jobs. And that we're not even focused on training Americans.
to get those jobs. In the same way that when my aunt told me, you know, well if we slow down immigration, who's gonna be your doctor? And I asked her to explain that. and she goes, well, my doctor's from Pakistan. and he's lovely and I love him. And by the way, great, but is it odd to anyone that Pakistan. kind of a Islamic theocratic, somewhat dysfunctional country, from what I remember.
is producing doctors. for the United States of America. Pakistan is, is educating doctors that are helping my boomer. and, and no one thinks that's a problem. And I asked her, I said, well, that is that not a problem. that we are not creating. the conditions where doctors in America are going.
to med school here and they're from America. And I, I'm not saying. that people from Pakistan have done anything wrong. by wanting to be doctors, but how do you run a society. where people from other countries come here, either get educated here or they're educated there, but they come here and they have six figure a year. jobs while native born citizens.
languish in a failed education system. where we just send them to prison. because they become addicted. to drugs because they're hopeless. And then we've got, you know, 10 cities in America. that are doing well. and houses over $10 million sell. But the housing market. for first time home buyers is completely frozen. How does that society work? How what exactly Other than tech feudalism, and you can see it there, the housing market is slumping,
but sales over 10 million are skyrocketing. That's not an accident. So how do you run a society like I'm, I'm, I'm literally asking, and I'm curious, how do you run a society where the people. that are born, by the way, white, black, brown, Asian, whatever, that are born in America. are, are languishing.
and the job market is very weak. and wealth is consolidating on the high end. with the asset owning class. People that own real estate, stocks, bonds, companies, billionaire wealth jumps three times faster in. 2025, the highest peak ever. sparking dangerous political inequality. And a lot of that's AI and, and things like that. It's about 3000 billionaires for the first time.
And none of those billionaires, by the way, have any allegiance to a nation state. Most of them don't. Most of them don't care. So I guess in the mind of the far left, we could kill all those people and redistribute that wealth. and find a charismatic dictator, whatever. I mean, that's like a childish college fantasy. But most rational, logical people go, the people coming here from El Salvador. didn't do anything wrong. They wanna work, they want their families.
to have better lives. And it's inhumane if they've lived here a very long time. and they have roots in a community to rip them out of it. and separate them from their children. But if they've been here two. or three years, four years, whatever they, whatever it is, if they came in in the latest wave. and they don't have those roots, there needs to be a way. to orderly in an orderly fashion. If people are here. and they came in illegally, you have.
to figure out a way to deal with that. And you can do it the way Rand Paul wants to do it. You can encourage them to self deport. by denying benefits. You can pass legislation, whatever, but the performative ice raids right now that are. all over the media and all over the news. and people are disgusted by them, aren't,
aren't doing the cause of border security any, any good. So you have to look at these. options and figure out what exactly. you can do without tearing the country apart. There's a mandate to cl to, to close the border. Trump was elected with a pretty sizable mandate, specifically on that issue.
People do not want more immigration into the. United States of America. Again, it's just they don't want it. They also don't want this. So you've gotta figure out a way to do this. What you could do, which Trump does not want to do, is enforce something called E-Verify, which means. that it's the employers that will pay fines. and possibly be jailed if they hire illegal labour. The reason Trump doesn't wanna do that is. because his friends in the construction industry. and the hotel industry.
and the agriculture industry don't want him to do that. because they are the ones that are. benefiting from the use of illegal labour now. And you might be, and they, and they have a point when they. go, listen, by the way, we can't just fire everyone. who's not legal. We we're gonna, we'd be looking at like massive delays. The economy would have a problem.
So there is a humane way to do it. There's also an economic way to do it. where you don't cause a three year slow. in the construction of houses. because you've just, there are ways to do it. This administration's not interested in those ways. They're interested in, in, in running the country like a reality show. They're interested, they've passed no legislation, they are not communicative on this issue at all,
other than these like childish memes. and they're losing support across the board, but on this issue they're losing support specifically. It's, it's like unserious and cruel. So you ha you have a lot. of anger and a lot of protests and they're turning violent. because there's a lot of protests in America that are, you know, we're a crazy group of people.
and it turns violent. And yes, some of it's funded, some of it's agitators, whatever, but we're cra it's a crazy country. on the left and the right, it's, it's crazy. Everyone is crazy. So it's not really surprising that these things. get violent quick. because people are ready to go. at the drop of a hat. Not everybody, but there's, there's groups of people.
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and again, Seymour Hirsch's, a Pulitzer Prize winning. reporter, but he's alleging, and again, he is been wrong. before on certain things, but there's a lot of issues where, you know, a lot. of his reporting is held up. He is alleging that this whole thing. has been orchestrated. to potentially either cancel.
or depress turnout in the midterm elections. And that a lot of people in Trump's inner circle, people like Steven Miller want this violence. to be used as a justification. to either shut down elections. or depressed turnout in the elections. Let's read a little bit of. this, keep going.
So here, anxiety in the White House that both the House. and the Senate might fold to the Democrats is acute Trump's. poll numbers are sliding mid the ongoing protest against ice. in Minnesota and in reaction. to the harsh tactics it is using to find. and seize undocumented immigrants. He hasn't delivered on promises. to end the war in the Ukraine. and he hasn't delivered on the economy. I've been told by someone with knowledge. of White House planning that Miller was a major advocate. for the ice operations in Minnesota that have led.
to the killing of two protestors by federal officers, the ongoing disruption of a major metropolitan area. and in international condemnation of the administration, but it was Trump who authorised raids. and he has yet to put an end to them. Miller was also the author of an earlier proposal. to use local National Guard troops to disrupt. the midterm elections in critical states. of polling predicted that the Republican. party would lose the house. That suggestion, given the current negative polling in the. fiasco in Minneapolis, is now dead in the water.
Another plan that has been discussed in the White House is. to disrupt the future presidential election when Vice. President JD Vance might be the candidate in the case. of a loss at the polls. It was conceived by John Eastman, the disbarred lawyer. He's currently appealing his disbarment in California. who also thought up the failed plan. after Trump's election loss in 2020. So if this is true, if Seymour Hirsch is. accurate about this, then, then.
we're going to see a civil war. and it won't look like a civil war, but you're going to see something that resembles. the closest thing that we've seen to a civil war. If this is to happen, if this is true, and I have no problem believing this, by the way, a lot. of people spend a lot of money. to put this administration in office, and it is very possible those people don't want.
to have an election that reverses this. So the idea that. Stephen Miller was thinking about using. an event like this to depress turnout. or to just cancel the elections, I was told. that Eastman's new scheme recently, the subject. of informal discussions at the White House calls. for sympathetic election officials in states. where the Democratic candidates win simply to delay.
or refuse to submit the electoral votes at the time. mandated by the Constitution. Eastman's notion is to find a way. to avoid the electoral votes from states. with a large democratic plurality so that the number. of electoral votes needed. to claim the presidency is low enough. to turn a losing Republican candidate into a President. So we're, we're at a point where it does seem.
that some of these things that people, including myself, didn't think were possible do seem. to be being discussed if Seymour Hirsch is. correct, and if that's the case, there is going to be, we're going to have a a huge issue. We already know that. this isn't politically breaking down the way. people think it is. Meaning that a lot of Republicans look at these people.
executing citizens in the, in the streets. and are unhappy with it. And they also know this is the same President, by the way, who just sent Pam Bondi down to meet with Miriam Addon. to discuss how to, you know, start putting people in jail. that Miriam doesn't like their statements. This is the same president. that won't release the Jeffrey Epstein files. in their totality.
They gaslit everyone and lied and said they didn't exist. This is the same administration that, you know, has at every turn not reigned. in Netanyahu. And it's the same administration that is supporting a lot. of these very vague laws. They're putting on the books, I think in Florida to. critic to, to make criticism of, of Israel.
a a punishable offence. The way that criticising immigration in the UK has become a. punishable offence. Somebody can show up to your door in the uk, knock on your door and detain you. for criticising immigration. If you do, if you do it in a way that's not, you know, articulate. If they feel that you, if you've said something indelicate, they can show up to your house and knock on your door.
They can charge you with a crime, they can put you in jail. This is the same administration that. is, you know, behind a lot of these laws or, or you know, co-signing a lot of these laws. that will allow criticism of a foreign government. to be labelled hate speech. and will make it a punishable offence.
It's the same administration that's allowed a takeover. of, you know, TikTok from the Ellison family. They support paramount buying CBS news, they support all of these things. And this is the full politi politicisation, not only of. media, which has always been true to an extent, but also now social media where.
you have a space. where the word Epstein is being censored. Is that true? Didn't you tell me that on TikTok? That videos about Epstein are being censored. So all of this violence in Minnesota. and the, the discussions about, you know, again, can't verify this, but it is Seymour Hirsch, literal, legit reporter. All of the discussions about disrupting elections. or cancelling elections,
they're all against, they would be wrong no matter. what obviously, but they're all against the backdrop of his, of an administration that is doing all of these things. that has billionaires buying TikTok. to censor the mention of Epstein. You have the attorney general going down to meet. with a bi billionaire, Miriam Addison, the owner. of the Dallas Mavericks, and going, by the way, what are your concerns?
And the people that elected this guy. and that put him into office. are at a grocery store figuring out how they're going. to get groceries just days. after, mainly American investors approved. by Donald Trump took control over TikTok. Some users announcing the app is censoring. and limiting their content, including posts about Jeffrey Epstein. and the shooting deaths of US citizens. by federal agents in Minneapolis. So it's time to admit for all the people out there.
that are the diehard MAGA people, I don't want to, you know, the, the, the boomer types that really truly. get get a kick out of the guy because he's funny. They get a kick out of him. You know, we talked about it last week. They just, they love him. They can't really be bothered with their own family, but they love this guy. This is pretty obvious. This is pretty blatant. This is pretty blatant. This is all the things that I would listen.
to Alex Jones talk about when I was younger, you know, are happening. And I've said it before. And that's not to say by the way that the, you know, that I'm like somehow a fan of like, you know, post-war liberal, CIA interventionist, neo-conservative warhawk flood, the inner cities. with cocaine fund the conscious, like we get it.
Okay? But let's just talk specifically for a minute about. what you see happening in front of your face. against the backdrop of all of this. We have ice in the street, we have the National Guard, we have people talking about the Insurrection Act. and you can't talk about it on TikTok, you can't talk about Jeffrey Epstein on TikTok. and they're passing laws in Florida telling you. if you criticise. Now, by the way, can you get up the video of the woman.
who said something about the mayor of Miami. and they just like knocked on her door. So I mean, again, that's coming here. and you thought these people were the free speech people, they campaigned as the free speech people. and they were truly. criticising the left, which in the 2020s had lost their mind. and were censoring people that said, you know, maybe this virus came from China. and they were kicking their them off social media.
But I mean, here's a video again, it's the United States of America, Miami Beach Police questions, woman over social media post. regarding the Jewish mayor whom she says, calls. for the death of all Palestinians. From what I read about this woman's tweet, it was a somewhat innocuous political opinion that you may. or may not disagree with. But again, take a look here. It's the United States of America in Florida, Republican,
Florida, Republican Florida. Let's take a look at this. There you go. - Picture to make sure it's you we're not sure. - Okay? - Is that I think, is that your account? - I refuse to answer questions without my lawyer present, so I really don't know how to answer that. - Question either way. Okay, well you're like I said, you're not gonna. - Jail and this is freedom of. speech. This is America, right, - Veteran. Correct. And I agree with you 100%. Okay, all right.
We're just trying to see if it's you because we're. not talking to the right person. We wanna go see who the right person is. - Okay, how can I help you? - So pretty much it's just a. statement that was made as far as you know, - Verbatim. It says the guy who consistently calls for the death. of all Palestinians tried to shut down a theatre. for showing a movie that hurt his feelings. and refuses to stand up. for the L-G-B-T-Q community in any way. Even leaves a room when the vote. and unrelated matters wants you to know. that you are all welcome clown face, clown face, clown face.
- By the way, stop that. She didn't say let's kill the guy. She didn't call for violence. She made a political, the guy cancelled the movie. It's a pro-Palestinian movie he didn't like. And she goes, this guy calls. for the deaths of all Palestinians. He doesn't stand up for the LGBT community. Whatever. I don't like the guy clown face, clown face. These people are at her house. Didn't JD Vance go to Europe. and start talking about free speech. and how embarrassing it is that. Europeans didn't have free speech. Didn't, didn't he do that?
This is Florida, it's Republican controlled Florida. By the way, they're censoring your posts on TikTok. Anyone who's not criticising this, anyone who's not calling this out, I cannot trust them. I don't know why they're not calling it out. I don't know if there's a financial benefit. to them not calling it out. or if they feel that one side's already one. and they want to be on that side. I don't know if they're fearful of something or other, but if you're not calling this out,
if you don't think this is wrong, if you make a living speaking, if you're a comedian, podcaster, journalist, whatever you are, doesn't really matter if you are a YouTuber, if you're a social media personality, if you make a living. using your fat mouth. and you don't think this is a problem, you don't think getting a group of billionaires. that are ideologically aligned to go buy an app.
and then start censoring the content on the app. It was a problem when it was being done during COVID. And it's a problem when it's being done now. And if you don't care about that. and if you think that's not gonna affect you. for whatever reason, I can't trust you. and I can't listen to what you say. You don't have any credibility to me. So that it it, it doesn't mean that, you know, there aren't.
considerations politically of like, you know, who's gonna censor us. How about nobody? How about no one? How about you can't call for the death of people. You can't call for violence against people. You can't dox people, but you can have a political opinion. without people showing up at your door. with a badge in Florida, Republican Florida, Trump,
Florida, Trump country. So this is coming here and these ice raids. and these executions are against the backdrop of all of this. and the discussion about the midterm elections. and whatever, whatever credibility it has. with Stephen Miller and Eastman. and whoever it's against the backdrop of this, an administration that campaigned on being pro-free speech, but very quickly realised.
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but I'm just telling you right now. that if you are not disturbed by this. and your spidey senses aren't going off a little bit. or a lot, you know, we have a lot of people in this country. that have taken flights of fantasy into, I mean the, the way. that adults now react to television shows, whether it's stranger things. or heated rivalry, whatever these shows are. that are super popular, the summer I turned pretty, whatever.
the way that adults are, are, are, are dealing. with television shows attacking the actors in the show. for not living up to, is the girl on, I love LA too brown. Did she tan? Did she go on a tanning bed? What is she going Ashkenazi to Sephardic? What? And these are real things that people are saying. The way that adults are.
engaging with entertainment shows that adults. are, are, are, are degenerating and regressing. and they're unable to tell the difference between real. and fake. They're unable to discern what an actor is, who's playing a role that was written by a writer. They're not able to do this anymore.
They've lost the ability to do it. They get in these little fan cults. and lose their fucking mind. They can't just enjoy a show. They have to know everything about the actors on the show, what their political opinions are, who they're fucking, they wanna know their sexuality. They want to know what exactly they. believe about every city. They want to know how much they're hanging out. with the other actors on the show. Are they hanging out? Is it fake? Is it real?
They wanna know all of these things. They have a weird toxic relationship with entertainment. because it's filling a void for them that is supposed. to be filled by things like family, community. and engaging civic with things that actually matter. But in the absence of that. or in the denial of that, people are like. concerning themselves with like.
how much the two guys on heated rivalry actually hang out. Why aren't they together more? Do they not like each other? To the point where these people have to come out. and go, Hey man, I like the guy. He's, he's my friend. But like, we are separate humans. We have lives, but it's not enough. If a character on a show does something that people disagree. with, they then attack the actor. on the show and they go on the actor's social media.
and attack the actor. because they're unable to tell the difference. Or here's something even more disturbing. They don't care. They don't care that there's a difference. because they need to channel their anger. and their passion into something and they don't own a house. So they need to channel it into the fucking summer. I turned pretty. and debate the religious affiliation.
of the actress is Jewish actress Odessa, a Zion, a scientist. No Marty, Supreme star. This is so incredibly gross. Number one, it's just straight up anti-Semitic. to tell the woman, oh, you're Jewish, you better speak up now. Fuck off. That's bullshit. She shouldn't have to say anything about anything she. doesn't wanna say anything about. By the way, if you need your political opinions from.
actress, you're a fucking retard by the way. You should get them from podcasters dummy. But here's the reality, people can no longer engage responsibly. with this type of stuff. As soon as there's a hit show, a fandom develops. These people start frothing at the mouth, they love it, then they start turning. Because by the way, this is kind of the problem.
And I see this a lot on, on, and I'm not trying to make this political, but you see this a lot on the left, the left. because they have, they don't really have traditional, a lot. of them don't have traditional religion, but it's so ingrained in our DNA, they create these quasi-religious moments. where there's like an epiphany. and their epiphany is like, I don't know,
a show about fucking people in LA. or the gay hockey players, whatever. And they, they have this, this thing like a wow, this is an amazing example of art. and love and this and that. And then immediately. they start turning on it. They need to turn on it, they need to get angry about it, and they need to prove to themselves. and others that it's not actually as good as they thought.
And the actors have some bad takes and some bad opinions. And I'm really depressed about this. They ride high on this thing and, and then as if they have to crucify everybody. and then the part of them that wants it. to be bad, that wants the experience. to leave them empty and unfulfilled. They wanna get angry. They need it.
They need to tear these people apart. It's, it's something that I've witnessed over and over. And now they're doing it to actors. for a while they were doing it to like comedians and podcast. and they're still doing it to those people. Don't get me wrong. But now it's like actors. and these people, actors don't even know. where they are half the time. I know they don't even know where they are. Asking actors to have political opinions is cruel.
It's the same thing as dragging the kids out. of the fucking ice. That poor little kid with his, with a little fucking blue hat, like acting, asking an actor to have a political, a well articulated political opinion is cruel. It's barbaric and it's inhumane. Actors exist to be hot. and or interesting looking to be diplomatic.
And they're, they should be able. to slip into roles. They should be good at being other people. That's their skill. Dragging them out into the light ruins it, it ruins it. The reason succession was a great show is. because Sarah Snuck, who plays Shiv, didn't have a podcast. where she talked about her pussy for 18 years before it.
'cause it, it wouldn't have worked. Let these people be actors. Let them be actors. Stop dragging them out into the spotlight, analysing the, the, the, the tan of their skin. Stop making Sidney Sweeney into a political figure. How empty is your life that this big titted blonde, who's a good actress, needs to be a political figure?
It's crazy, but it's deeply unhealthy. And it comes from this, this reptilian part of the brain. that just, you wanna see people burn cruelty is the point. It's the same thing when the DHN I'm not equating them. because obviously it's horrible. to rip kids away from their parents. But by the way, there is some of that that's unavoidable. If you can say, these guys are in trend, aua,
they're a criminal enterprise. and they came here with a bunch of kids. and we gotta get 'em outta here. Keep them all together and get 'em out. There does need to be a way to get cri crime syndicates. out of the country. I think most people would agree with that. But the same part of the brain. that delights in the dumb department. of Homeland Security memes. Santa Claus is coming to deport you. That's the same part of the brain that wants this, this,
this woman to this poor woman just got cast in something. to play some Mexican chick. She didn't know. She didn't read the book. I believe her. She didn't read. I didn't read the book. What do I know? Also, I know a lot of Mexican people. that look white, but whatever. Who cares? You want a Mexican actress to play her fine. They dragged this woman, I don't even know this woman, but they dragged this woman. And she goes, you guys are right. And she has to say it.
Just go on her Instagram and go, you guys are right. It's why I love you guys. You let me know this chick was Mexican. I totally get it. I totally get it. And, and, and listen, if you spend your time. engaging in this type of behaviour, the utterly meaningless. and you give this meaning. and you are running around trying. to give your own life meaning by analysing whether the stars.
of heated rivalry spend enough time together when. they're not on set. If that's what you are doing, you've completely lost the plot. And this is why AI's entertainment's coming. because you are, you are torturing the real people. You are trying to destroy.
Fame looks so unappealing right now. You know how unappealing it is now. I mean, yes, if you, if it comes with money, you can always, it's always worth it. because I've been broke and it's not fun. But do you understand when you were in the nineties. and you were famous, you were an actor, you made a great thing and you got to go away. Now it never ends. Now you make a show. and then the people become obsessed with you.
and they wanna know everything about your private life. Okay? And then you wake up one day. and you're just trying to be hot. and somebody's like, what about Sudan? Big quiet, big kind of quiet on Sudan. What these people all need. to have fully formed opinions on Iran. And we're analysing how much time they spend. with their co-stars and if they're toxic on set. and if they love each other. Connor has been vocal about fans being overly invested in.
his love life as he adjust to his newfound fame. And then they're all scared to confirm their sexuality. 'cause a lot of these people are straight. or whatever they are, you know, and the, and the people can't handle that. The straight guy's playing a gay guy, they can't handle it. So then they, then they want, so then they turn into psychos. and go, you know, there was actually a lot. of gay people that could have done that role. A lot of gay people that could have done. that role, whatever.
This has become their politics. This has become their political identity. This has become their religion. Hunting the dumbest people in our society. and making them have views on Iran, hunting the dumbest people in our society. and making them articulate positions on Palestine.
This is barbaric. This is an ice raid. This is an online ice raid. Finding the dumbest. and most insignificant people. And it's not to say that actors don't do great shit, but I mean in the realm of the political, you could not find someone more insignificant. than the hot guy. who was waiting tables in LA three months ago.
That's on heated rivalry. There's no one whose opinion matters less. Nobody. And the fact that these people. keep dragging these dummies into the light. and forcing them to confess. What is your sexuality? Tell me what you, what when you come, what do you think about? It's not enough. Just enjoy the fucking show you loser. Just enjoy the fucking show.
You loser enough already. And I can't believe I'm defending, but I've got nothing to do with these people. I'm defending them. I feel bad for these dummies. I feel so bad for these dummies. They don't know what's going on. They're hot. They're, they're trying to remember if red means go or stop. or which one is green. And they're just trying to walk across the street. and not get killed. They're trying to walk across the street.
and not trip over a food robot. Or they don't know where they are half the time. That's not why they're here. They don't know their sexuality. They don't know what's going on. They sat in a chair that got them hard once. They don't know. It's not, they're not here for that. They're not here for that. They're not here to be your hero. They're not here to influence you.
They're not here to hold your hand. and walk you through your meaningless garbage existence. They are there to pretend to be someone else. for a half hour on your television. I can't believe it. And some of they're young, some. of 'em are like in their late teens and, and they're getting bullied by adults. Some people, they're gotta take their social media. pages down.
They don't, they're like, what? I was on this show now everyone hates me. 'cause they disagree with the ending of the show. They didn't like the se se seasoned finale. So they're trying to kill me. It's, it's embarrassing. We've reached a a a point in our culture where we're, where we're forcing. our hottest, dumbest people.
to become something they're not. It's cruel, it's degrading. I'm gonna protest that and get shot. I'll be shot protesting that. Defending the rights of hot, dumb people to remain hot. and dumb because we all benefit in that. It's supposed to be a fantasy. You fucking retards. You're supposed, it's a, that's what it is. The dream factory. They're not supposed to be, I don't wanna know.
about these fucking people. What's wrong with you? It diminishes the experience. to know too much about them. It's not like politics. Politics. You should wanna know all of the things about these people. You should wanna know where they come from, who funds them, why they believe certain things, why their beliefs change. You should wanna know why exactly they're having dinner. with whoever they're having dinner with. You should wanna know all these things.
You should be curious about where they. live, where they came from. You should be curious about why they're the governor. of a state they didn't grow up in. It's an interesting thing. Well, what, what about the state do you like? You, you should wanna know why. Some of them are incredibly vague about. their personal lives. You should wanna know that. You should wanna know who is. financially backing their candidacy.
You should know the main industries in their state. and who runs them. All of that should be fair game. If you're a politician, not if you're the star. of the hockey thing. That's not what you should care about. If you're the star of the hockey thing, you fucking moron. So we've got problems in our society. Big ones. Big ones. We've got real,
real issues here. We have a government that looks to be. using, not looks to be, by the way, let me correct myself. 'cause people clip that. He won't admit a government. that is using their billionaire friends to shut you up. and then potentially maybe put you in jail. and maybe end up getting shot.
We don't know. But these aren't independent events. We should look at how we got here. We also have people that are trying to destabilise. the country from other countries, or people that live here that are trying to. egg on riots, make things worse. a hundred percent. We have people that are stirring the pot. We have agencies in our country that want more power.
They want a bigger budget. They want autonomous drone technology. accepted by the citizenry to feel safe. They want facial recognition. They want biometric skin. They want all of that. They want it. They want it. So violence to them is good. That works. If everyone feels safe. And you all live in a community where everybody cares. or trusts each other, to the extent that that's possible, you won't need all of the things that are coming.
The AI bubble's, the only industry in the country. that's functioning, and it's not functioning, it's largely fake, but it's one of the only thing it's gotta deliver. This has gotta deliver. You got a fucking massive investment. Our economy's hinging on this. The stock market's hinging on that. It has to deliver. Well, I would think a great way. to usher in AI would be a lot.
of violence all over the place. That would be my guess. And in fact, if you didn't have that, well then, I don't know, maybe you wouldn't consent. to all these new things. that are gonna start popping up in the next few years. All these companies are gonna have. to start selling all this technology to the states, to local jurisdictions, to private companies, to private individuals, to other countries. Well, if you don't have, if you have random outbreaks.
of violence, if you have high incidences of crime, if you have protests that are turning violent. and spiralling out of control, if you have the federal government in conflict. with the states, which is causing chaos on the streets, private individuals, private corporations, federal, state, local governments, all of these. consumers are going to accept.
this technology by this technology. So this, what's happening right now is the wet dream. of the national security state of Palantir, of all. of these different companies. They're not the only company, by the way. There's lots of different companies. And this is their wet dream, because this will lead to surveillance. It will lead to AI government, it will lead.
to decisions being made by ai. Those ice agents are untrained buffoons. and killed a person. But you know who's not gonna do that? The robot, the robot's gonna know. The robot's not gonna fear for its own safety. The robot's gonna be programmed to deescalate things. Watch, it's coming. If you don't think those conversations are. happening, you are insane.
And if you have a buffoon group, a ragtag group. of people you recruited 25 minutes ago. that are ripping kids outta their houses. and then shooting protestors in the street, it's a pretty good argument. In fact, maybe the best argument I've ever heard. for something that five. or 10 years ago, we all would've completely rejected, which is a robotic. or drone based police, okay? It's the best argument I've ever heard for that, if you were.
to make arguments, you'd say, well, this is what, this is the what happens when people do it. Why don't we go somewhere else? Why don't we go somewhere else with this? Why don't we think about automation? These decisions will be made. Look at Waymo's five or 10 years. Yo, I don't wanna, I'm a driverless car. What? I don't wanna sit in that people have. accepted them, they're using them.
And if I was gonna make an argument to get rid of. people and replace them, this would be a great argument. I would show this at my investor, meaning. I would show it if I was an investor in one. of these AI companies. I would say, I want everyone to watch something. And it's gonna be a little disturbing. But I think it's important. because I think we've got a real chance here.
I would play the shooting of Renee Goode, and then I would play the second. shooting in Min Minneapolis. It's the last name. What's his name? Alex what? - Freddy. - Freddy. I would play those two shootings, and then I would look at my board. I would say, this is the argument. to automate policing. This is the argument to introduce mass surveillance,
drone technology, biometric, facial, recogni, whatever it is. We wanna avoid this. We wanna take human error out of this. And that's what I would say. And people would be nodding and sipping their coffee. and going, yeah, this makes a lot of sense. Because they're basically saying all these people, they're, they're getting them in rooms. They're getting them in rooms, and they're saying this to them.
They're saying, when this all falls apart, and it will, that's what they're saying to them. They're going, when this all falls apart, and it will, you are gonna to live far away from this, and you're gonna wanna be protected, not by a bunch. of buffoons. You're gonna want to be protected by the types of things. that we are working on. That's what they're telling these people. They go, yes, some of you are gonna, you know, fleet. of Switzerland or whatever, and they'll, they'll close the borders.
And you know, they'll, and all the bullshit you guys talked about, about open borders and diversity. and all the shit you tweeted, you'll flee. and you'll, you'll live behind gates, you know? But some of you, you know, you'll, you're gonna stay in America. You'll stay in America. And when that happens, you are gonna want, you want these guys protecting you. You want these people. Do you want these people. or do you want, what, what we have? Because I'm gonna tell you right now,
you're gonna want what we have. So this entire economic bet. that we've all made on AI is. going to be in my mind. and the minds of other people. It's not only me, it's, it's not, you know, not the one person who said, or the one person who said this, but you can look at all of these different incidents. and say to yourself, these will be used.
And it'll happen when it happens. And it's may already be happening, but when it starts happening out there, when they bring the, the, the police robot on the Today Show, they're gonna use the example of Minnesota. They're gonna use these examples. and they're gonna say, what we wanna avoid is human error. We wanna avoid. And then they, they're gonna just start remaking society.
And you're gonna have, you're gonna, the few rights you have left are completely gone. They'll be completely gone. You'll, they'll be completely gone. They're already evaporating in Trump's Florida, right wing Florida. Freedom. Freedom. What'd you say about the mayor? What'd you say about the mayor in his film? I'm here with a badge and a gun freedom. Hey, what'd you say? Trump's Florida, by the way.
So the left and the right can keep fighting, keep fighting on acts. and threads, keep screaming about whatever. they, they're screaming about. But there's a very, very dark reality. that star to become very. obvious if you're smart enough to zoom out, this is a very, very dark reality. And it's gonna be across the board, it's gonna be across the argument.
to remove people from many, many things. is starting to happen. The attacks on artists, entertainers, the idea that they should live up to some standard. that was created by to 10 psychopaths on Reddit. or whatever, wherever this emanates from these campaigns. against these people, the idea that. people are going to be obsolete.
and that you're not gonna need them, that you'll actually be. happier with something that was generated. by Sam Altman. So the dark reality of, of what's coming is, is. I don't think a. political issue. I think it's an issue that has political elements, but I think it's darker and more important. And I think it's about the survival of humanity.
It's about the survival of being an autonomous human being. that has the freedoms to speak, to travel, to move, to resist some forms of mass surveillance. I believe all of that to be the case. And I, and I, I believe that you have bad actors on the left. for sure, that are, that are making these protests. spill over into violent riots. And some of those bad actors are federal agents, as we know.
Some of 'em aren't. It's a toxic soup of foreign influence. and federal agents and whatever. You have bad actors on the right that want. to cancel elections and, and, and, and just basically turn this into Russia. and the oligarchs at the top don't care. That's the scary thing. They actually don't care. So understand the point of what I've been trying. to say here, they actually don't care whichever way it.
seems to be going. They're gonna survive. They know they're gonna survive. That's the most disturbing thing about it all is that no ma, they're still at Mar-a-Lago. with the dog mask in the showgirls. They're dancing, they don't care. And they'll go to Kamala's house or Buttigieg House. or Newsom's House. They don't care. Tim Cook will go to Melania's documentary,
and then if Kamala Harris gets elected. and writes a book, he'll be there too. It doesn't matter. The oligarchs actually don't care. who runs this show, whether it's a autocracy. or a fake democracy or a bloated oligarchy, or it looks, feels, smells and tastes the way it has, or whether it kind of makes a sharp turn into something. else, it doesn't really matter to them. What really matters to them is that they have enough money.
and political clout to survive. And the ones that don't will. So we're in another thing now. You can fight on threats, can argue on threats, fight on acts, do anything you want, but we're in another thing now. And you should fully be aware of that. You should fully be aware that the people at the top. don't know which way it's going. and don't really care.
There's factions, there's groups. that think it would look better like this. Some think it'll look better like that, but at the end of the day, none. of them give a fuck about you. None of them want you to be able. to resist the things that they are planning. And their only concern is, is generational wealth. for themselves, power for themselves and their families.
That's why they went with Trump. That's why they went, and they'll go. with whoever else is here and, and, and, and listen if this, there'll be a fair amount of them. that if Trump wants to cancel election, I'm not saying he will, but I'm saying if he does that. and uses some violence in the street as a pre, there'll be a fair amount of people that just go with him. Elon will go with him. The ellisons will go with him. Then there'll be other people that are an opposing faction. It's now a naked power grab at the top.
There's absolutely no doubt about what is going on. And it is darker than the political fights you are having. about, well, if you know, there were less immigrants, there'd be higher hourly wages, or maybe more immigrants actually. grow the economy because they're predict. There, there, there's, there's other things happening. It's not that these, those debates are inherently unimportant. It's not that you shouldn't, in a free society be able to, to debate things and then, you know, enact laws.
and change the course of, of, of things for the better. It's not about any of that. It's about if you zoom out, you could kind of see what's happening. There's a bunch of people at the very top. that are sitting on the fence not really. knowing where this thing's gonna go. Maybe it's always been like that. Now we just really have the means to see it for what it is. Maybe it's, it's always been like that. It probably has. You've probably just had different factions sitting at. the top going, which, what? What's this thing gonna do? Are we going with Hitler?
Who knows? Maybe we would, maybe there were people in. Germany going like, eh, there's people in America going. like, Hey, maybe, maybe we will, maybe we'll be a, a kind of a fascist state. And then there's people that, you know, during the Eisenhower and the Truman administration were. burrowing in pretty high level communists. who were like, maybe we'll go Soviet it. Maybe we'll be communists. I don't think, I don't think it's ever not been the case, but now we have the tools. to explicitly see it for what it is. All these people are also out on social media, like begging. for our approval and trying to tell jokes.
They're trying to be, they're, they're their, their their, their PR strategy is different. They're out, they're buying the social media app that you, you wake up and post on. So that's what's happening. That's what's happening. And it's not political. It's apolitical, which makes it even scarier. That's, and I'm not trying to say like, don't vote. or it doesn't matter or Trump's good, or whatever you'd think I'm trying to say. I'm not saying that. I'm saying that the,
the li the the tech people that were, were very liberal, are now very right wing. and they'll be very liberal and they don't care. They don't care. And then the people that came. to power criticising free spe criticising the lack. of free speech on social media are now shutting down free. speech on social media. So it's obvious that that, that a lot. of this is fake and it's performative. It's a show, it's a reality show.
I mean, it's not a, it's not necessarily a, the funniest episode we've done, but it is the truth. It is what's happening. It is what's happening. And in this time. you can really only trust one per, there's one person. that I trust in this time. There's only one person I trust, and it's Erica Kirk.
Good night.
