Bobby & Cheryl | The Tim Dillon Show #360

ladies and gentlemen welcome to the Tim. Dillon show very excited to have uh RFK. Jr on today who's running for president. and his wife Cheryl Hines uh 30 minutes. into the podcast we did have a weird. blackout in the studio it's never. happened before I've been podcasting. about seven years this has never. happened it was strange it happened uh. in the middle of the episode we lost. about 15 good minutes and then we got. back to it. um but as you know uh there you know it. kind of broke uh the uh you know we had.

a groove going and it was fun we had a. dynamic and it was cool and when the. lights went off I think he thought. someone was trying to kill him. and you know because it's again it's the. family history. um but you know he's really. conscientious guy but you know when. those lights went down he was like. Pharaoh like he they were you know it. got strange so he's a great guy I would. love to see him uh you know gain.

Traction in this race because I think he. could be uh an incredibly. um amazing president you know when you. listen to the guy talk. um and his wife is lovely and amazing. and talented as well so they were great. but if there is a weirdness around the. middle of the episode we do address it. but it it it stopped and it started and. when that happens to a podcast. unfortunately it does kind of break the. Rhythm a little bit but they were great.

Sports about it and there's some really. great information in this episode. um thank you here we go ladies and. gentlemen welcome to the Tim Dillon show. special episode today RFK Cheryl Hines. thank you guys for both coming uh I. appreciate appreciate it fellow. Californians uh coming here I appreciate. it it's a you know we get a lot of bad. press as a state some of it is deserved. you've been living here how long. 2014 I'm out here so nine years and what. do you think of it.

well you know I didn't want to move out. I moved out for love because I actually. had a you know I had it live and a. profession in New York right and um but. Cheryl couldn't move and then none of my. kids wanted to move. and then we got out here and now they. all love it here so you know I mean. there's you can't beat California first. of all if I don't know if you lived on. the East Coast I was a New Yorker yeah. you know I should have but I didn't you.

know usually my mother or grandmother. did it it was good for them I figured. them on yeah I mean watched him through. the windows yeah I I mean but I I I I. have occasionally but yeah though you. can't beat the winters here uh when. they're nice when they're mild no. they're it's so beautiful and you have. the ocean in the mountains and it's. amazing it has everything so yeah it is. great and we have I think we're the. fourth largest economy in the World. Behind uh you know it's like GDP where. the fifth I mean it's in a it's a.

massive engine of the American economy. um now you're somebody who who's been. open about your your struggles with with. drug and alcohol and coming out of that. when you see you know the the the. problem in California all over the. country but specifically because we all. live here. um in California with people that are. homeless that are addicted to drugs. um. how do you internalize that as somebody.

who's been through that and you're. looking at people and you have. compassion but you know you also realize. that like it's becoming. um a massive problem and every time now. someone talks about California they. think about this uh issue where you have. people that are unable to live. um uh without you know being you know. really there's Mental Health crisis. hopelessly addicted to substances is.

there a way can we do more I mean there. has to be a way to do more well I mean. there's two issues one is addiction. and the other is homelessness and I. don't think that they're necessarily. connected my son Connor. last night we were talking about this. issue and he said he pointed out that. um. that in West Virginia that there's more. drug addiction per capita there's more. poverty. um per capita and there is probably an.

equal amount of mental illness and yet. there's no homelessness problem. and it has to do with the availability. of housing right uh so it's not uh. homelessness and addiction do not have. to go hand in hand right if you solve. the housing issue you know one of the. reasons in San Francisco. that they have this terrible problem is. because they have zoning laws that don't. allow any high density housing and and.

um and that that contributes to the. problem but I you know we were in San. Francisco recently when we tried the. Monsanto case. I was there almost for a year because. each of those three trials were about. three you know it required about you. know two or three months of their. and I would go to Union Square every day. uh to you know to exercise there's a it. was an equinox there and I uh.

and you know I'd see the shops and you. had all of the great iconic American. stores you know at plus you had brought. on Gucci and then you went Gap and Old. Navy and. Levi's and you know. um Nordstroms and and Bloomingdale's and. all of these and it it's like fifth for. people who don't know of course oh there. was there's a part of San Francisco that. is like Fifth Avenue and it it is a. shopping City people tourists come all.

over the world. the shop in Union Square the way that. they do in Fifth Avenue and today I went. up there I don't know if you've been up. there recently but I went up there a. month ago and every one of those stores. is is boarded up it's just acre after. acre of plywood it's like if you shut. down. Fifth Avenue I don't think people. understand what in the cataclysm that. has struck that City. and it's uh the the office space is 30.

has a uh 65 percent. vacancy so it's a 35 occupancy rate they. built buildings. five years ago for 330 million dollars. and they're now selling them for 100. million and it's hard to see how. that City recovery even with really good. leadership you know those those. those are um those kind of stores take a. year to just you know to a runway on.

them right you have to then make. commitments that are 10 or 20 or so well. a lot of people say those you know. California's Democrat Run State very few. Republicans uh San Francisco certainly I. don't think you have any Republicans. right so and people there has to be like. one or two there's one or two. Republicans but they're San Francisco. apartments right yeah so there's no way. so people are saying they're going to. say you're a Democrat you're running for. president what is different about the.

way you would handle San Francisco and. certain issues in Los Angeles then what. Democrats have done in this state. well you know I I mean I have a I I have. ideas for how to handle those issues. that people can go on our website but. you know one of all right. I think housing is a critical issue and. it's not just critical for people in San. Francisco and our kids kids I might you. know I have Cheryl and I have seven kids.

between 20 and 39. and. um. and when I was that age I was already. thinking of you know buying a house or. how am I going to do it Etc where do I. want to live you know. and I don't know any of my kids friends. who are even thinking that a lot of them. are living with their parents. um and you know they they the chance of. them actually buying a house is unless. they do incredibly well their lives is.

very very slim and my kids are. you know they they have good jobs they. make money but um but it's not enough to. buy a house and two years ago. you had uh you had the the average price. of a house was two hundred and fifteen. thousand dollars and even that was Out. Of Reach for a lot of in America that. was the average that was the average. across the country okay on the coast. it's much higher is the average today.

it's four hundred thousand it's two. years ago and you're now paying you know. you were back then you're paying maybe. three percent interest now you're paying. seven percent interest. the house is three or four or five times. expensive and there's no way anyway and. then what everybody has this experience. of knowing somebody who is about to buy. a house and then somebody comes in just. before they go into escrow. somebody comes in with a cash offer and. snatches out from under them and this. this is just now a ubiquitous experience.

and what's happening is not only are we. aren't we you know suffering inflation. from the constant Wars eight trillion. dollars on War. a trillion dollars that we didn't have. on regime change Awards since 2002. or also. um you have these three giant companies. BlackRock State Street and Vanguard who. own who all own each other you know. BlackRock has 10 trillion dollars under. man these are all private Equity.

companies yeah the biggest companies in. the world and they and they are they own. I think they own uh 88 of the s p 500s. those three companies say on 88 of the S. P 500 so they already own everything and. now they've decided. they're gonna buy every single family. home in America so. um they're on track Now to control to. own the corporate control of the 60 of. the of the single family homes in.

America within six years so so you're. saying so when somebody comes in with a. cash offer it's it's usually from uh. it's an LLC with some ambiguous name a. shell Corp right and if you if you. follow the you know the breadcrumbs. it'll go back to it. Vanguard State Street and they want to. own all of them and you know and I mean. ironically and I you know I don't want. to feed into anybody's partner but.

you know it's playing with matches and a. dynamite you know [ __ ] yeah with you in. the room but uh yeah but Larry Fink. who's uh who is the CEO of BlackRock is. also on the board of the world economic. Forum yes which you know their Mantra is. we're going to have this great reset.

what does that mean it means that and. this is these are their quotes not mine. you will own nothing and you will be. happy you'll be happy the famous article. I mean now they're doing I talked about. it last week in the show they're running. all these articles in Wall Street. Journal where they go it's now the trend. and not have a dining room you don't. need a living room all of these you know. the Publications are coming out and. they're going like Americans are are. they're they're happy with shrinking. houses and less space and and and and. then they talk about like home builders.

are trying to figure out ways to like in. a challenging real estate market still. be profitable what they don't mention is. these home builders are not like Mom and. Pop contractors these are you know DH. Horton these are massive by BlackRock. State Street right so how is this. takeover of the of the American real. estate market uh how can this how is. this preventable well you know what what. I would do immediately there's a lot of. things you can do one is you can change.

the tax code to make it. uh unprofitable because our kids are now. competing against black rocks and. BlackRock has a bottomless Bank book. it has the lowest interest rates on the. planet of anybody. and our kids now have to compete against. that company now why is their rates so. are they lending themselves money how. does it work well first of all they own. all the banks they own all the credit. card companies and they that helps just. because they have a huge Bank book The. you know the uh they're a safe loan so.

there's zero risk in wanting to. Blackrock. and so the banks will give them the. lowest possible rates and our kids then. have to compete you know our kids who. have no credit rating who have you know. a 600 credit rate or whatever it is are. paying not seven percent but maybe 10. interest right and they're competing. against somebody that's that's getting. three percent interest. it's all right and you know we have an. American Dream in this country the. promise as World War II your parents.

generation my parents generation if you. worked hard if he played by the rules. you could have one job not three and you. can own a house you could take a summer. vacation you could raise a family and. you could and you could put away money. for retirement. that is just not even for anybody that. is not true over now that's over these. kids are not going to own homes and and. if you don't own a home. you don't care about your community you. don't care about the schools you don't.

care you know you that you're less. vested you're less vested and so you're. not you're not you know you're not doing. the things that homeowners do to take. care of them to invest in their. Community to to make it a better place. to live so. and you also have no access to Capital. because. you know if you are a homeowner and you. want to start a small business and you. want to take a risk you get a second. mortgage on your home and you have some. access to Capital because you have an.

asset. you can go to the bank with and say look. I I know this may be stupid but I'm. going to start a in our restaurant and. I'm going to put up my home as. collateral and I'm going to do it so but. if you don't have a home. you have no access to Capital that's a. great Point somebody else no way right. to tap the equity in your home you know. you're you're you're you're you're. you're cut off from that source of money. you're also I think people that are are.

not homeowners are subject to the rising. rents yeah all the time. you have no control and the ownership by. these companies. is driving up the cost of rents 48 of. people in this country who are renting. are are have anxiety and Cheryl and I. talk about this all the time. you're living paycheck to paycheck in. this country. you know and and and.

57 of Americans cannot put their hands. on a thousand dollars if they have. emergency right if you're living. paycheck you are not that fewer than. half of those people are making enough. money to pay for basic human needs for. food transportation and uh and housing. if he and Cheryl you know made this. point to me about when she you know. because she spent most of her life. living paycheck to paycheck right he.

said the engine light would come on in. her car and it's like the apocalypse. yeah you know you don't have the money. to pay the mechanic you can't put your. hands on that money and you know that. car is gonna die but you have to get to. work yeah you can't get to work what. happens if you don't have a card you. can't get to work yeah and everything. then starts spiraling to you end up on. the street well it's like you know I. remember being broke being a a comedian. and just trying to make it and like it's. tough to you know opening bank accounts. it's hard yeah you know I was climbing.

out of poverty and the type of poverty. that you know we're not talking about. people that are momentarily broke or. talk about in many cases generational. poverty people aren't inheriting homes. they're not you know they're still. locked out of the system in many ways. they are their credit rating is is tough. maybe they maybe they got busted for. smoking weed or there's some you know. criminal record that's preventing them. from getting the job they want the. Democratic party had always styled. itself as kind of the defender of.

working people and the defender of. economic Justice what happened. I mean now. I saw this data the other day and I. haven't traced it down to you know. verify it but I what I read the other. day was that 70 of the wealth in this. country is now controlled by Democrat. um versus 30 play Independence and. Republicans and. um so and at the time 10 of the nine of. the ten top.

richest counties are now Democrat. counties so it used to be this is. flip-flop from where it was when I was a. kid. where the Republicans were were the rich. with the oligarchs. and the um and the Democrats are you. know working uh working for working. people right. and so it has flipped and you know and. uh uh you're asking me well I I don't. know it exactly no I saw I watched it. happen. let me just finish the yeah this is.

interesting Democratic counties. represent 70 percent of U.S GDP 2020. election shows so that's the 2020. elections chaotic and marked by race is. too close to call have nonetheless. reaffirmed that at least in Washington. the two parties now speak for markedly. different segments of the U.S economy. yeah I mean that's that's very. interesting yeah because when you and I. were growing up the Democrats. represented the poor in them that's. right yeah. and the Republicans represented Wall.

Street in the oligarchy. but one of the things that I'm going to. do I'm I'm going to immediately create a. new class of mortgages that you know if. you have a rich uncle. you can get a much lower mortgage rate. if if he will close on your loan. go sign your mortgage you can get it. because the bank is looking at his bank. book. other than yours and they're going to. give them a better rate because it's a. lower risk what I'm going to do is I'm. going to give everybody a rich Uncle.

which is going to be Uncle Sam and I'm. going to Uncle Sam to co-sign this new. class of mortgages that people get for. three percent. only first-time individual homeowners. can get it. they have to live in that community and. they have to work in that community and. I'm going to give the first 500 000 A's. to teachers because we need to start. supporting our teachers and allow them. to live near the schools and work in.

those those places and with the way. and I'm going to finance those mortgages. not by increasing our debt which we. should not be doing. uh the I by selling. um three percent bonds that are tax-free. so the market will snap up those bonds. and uh and we'll be able to finance. mortgages so your kids. now will be paying a thousand dollars it. will take a thousand dollars a month off. the typical mortgage of our average. mortgage and you can now get a thousand.

a a home for a thousand dollars a month. and uh you know people are paying rent. that for rent and you're building a. middle class and you know when we built. the middle class in this country. after World War II we built a middle. class that became the greatest economic. generator in the history of mankind and. uh we owned when I was a boy half the. wealth on the face of the Earth because. of the American middle class. and now we're tearing it apart and uh.

but it began by by making sure everybody. could get into a house after World War. II the GI bill or these other. programs that allowed every American in. my house and once you buy a house you. have access to Capital you can start a. business if you're entrepreneurial and. it released the you know these what. which Franklin Roosevelt called. America's industrial genius you know the. the. inclination for Innovation for. entrepreneurship for. um you know for business development.

you can't do that if the if the middle. class does not have access to Capital. which means if they have no equity if. they're living in a rental home you. cannot rebuild them you need to get them. into their own homes how do you stop the. BlackRock Vanguard State Street from. cannibalizing the real estate that we. have in America right now well they're. doing too with a farm real estate and in. fact. that's one of the reasons for the. Ukraine war is that they you know we're. loaning 140 billion dollars a year for.

to Ukraine and they're paying it back by. you know we force them to do this. through austerity programs. and it's part of our contract where they. have to put all the Farmland in Ukraine. up for sale it's called the land market. and. um and BlackRock is over there buying. you know the corporations have snapped. up 28 of this is the richest Farmland in. the world I'm so stunned and shocked by. by that it is so shy can you imagine. that what I mean how do you but yeah.

how do you stop that you do it you do it. through the tax card I mean we I believe. in free market capitalism sure I don't. believe well we don't have we don't have. that now what we have is Corporate crony. capitalism and Monopoly capitalism. and you need to start uh enforcing the. antitrust laws which is one of the. reasons BlackRock is getting away with. murder they're you know they they're. they own all these industries that. they've Consolidated they've vertically. integrated them.

and they shouldn't be allowed to do that. when we're dealing with this now in. Cheryl's business and my business to a. lesser degree uh with the the strike. with sag and the WJ because a lot of the. streamers and the Studios in Hollywood. it's also vertical integration where you. have you know that type of cronyism. where you have all those kind of you. know fixing prices and fixing costs of. Labor and stuff and that is kills. capitalism it kills competition it kills.

the thing uh that we all know is. responsible for some of the great. Innovations we enjoy and the standard of. living that we used to have so you're. coming up because you you let a lot of. people during the last election cycle. with Bernie Sanders that were saying. they were giving up on capitalism that. they felt like uh especially the younger. generation right younger people are. identifying more with socialism than any. other generation prior to them because I.

think they've looked at uh the rising. inequality they've looked at how corrupt. Everything feels. um yeah I would say that one of the. reasons for that is that. they're looking at BlackRock and they're. saying that's capitalism right and we. reject it but that's not capitalism no. that's just you know it's a it's. plutocracy it's a you know it's uh. it's this uh it's a corporate. kleptocracy that's what it is it's. Monopoly so you do you cap the amount of.

homes that that those well you what you. do is you say you know you change the. tax code. so that they to penalize corporations. who own over a certain number of homes. that they you know you have to uh and. you can do that in a million different. ways but you know that what we should be. doing is we should be lifting the. regulatory burden on small business. right and increasing it on these on.

large businesses you know across the. board on environmental uh regulations on. worker safety on all of the different. issues. you need to go easier on small business. yeah and I'm not saying you know you. know let them abuse workers or or poison. the environment and I'm saying most of. the problems are coming from the top oh. yeah and they get economies of scale and. so they get you know they get to buy the. subsidized corn they are the ones who.

get this corn subsidies they're the ones. that from. I'm cradle to get grave everything they. do is subsidized because they got the. big lobbyists on Capitol Hill or you. know or. writing the rules that. um that favor these you know these. monopolistic incumbents. and punish the little guy in our country. and we got to dismantle that and do you. know we. listen we lost uh we lost our democracy. once before we lost it during the Gilded.

Age in the 1880s and 1890s. and we lost uh we're not lost free. market capitalism too you had you know a. straight out Monopoly capitalism the. railroads the sugar trust uh. cotton trust the the uh the steel trust. all of them were you know they had these. interlocking boards. back then you didn't have direct. election of senators so the senators. were chosen by the legislatures and they. owned the legislatures outright. and you know it was said about the.

Pennsylvania state legislature and none. of them could be bought because John D. Rockefeller owned them all and he. wouldn't sell any. right and that's how it was with all the. legislatures in our country they were. owned by these big corporations. so they controlled the Senate they. controlled the government and you know. we had now even though we're electing. these Senators directly it feels like. they're owned by the same corporate. interests exactly after the citizens. united case in 2008.

we're back where we were during the. 1880s and citizens united basically. allowed money to be looked at as free. speech one of the things I did to break. up you know they did a whole bunch of. things in the early 1900s you had. uh corporate income tax come in for the. first time the 40-hour work week you had. you know unions basically legalized you. had. um uh you had women get the vote. you had a man's unchild labor you had uh.

and then you had uh the Sherman. Antitrust Act was passed in 1903. in 1908 they passed a law making it. illegal for corporations to donate to. Federal political campaigns so and all. of those reforms and then you had Teddy. Roosevelt come in. um you had these you know movements you. first of all you had great journalism. and these muck raking journalists like I. had a Tarbell and and Sinclair Lewis and.

the person who wrote that thing about. the meat factory yeah yeah yeah. who were exposing corporate corruption. and you know McClure's magazine was was. and I had a Tarbell did these uh Xmas a. of the Standard Oil company and John D. Rockefeller every American was reading. it they were all pissed off. you had a populist movement in the. countryside that that popped up that was. Democratic a a progressive movement in. the cities that was Republican but they.

all ended up getting together they. elected Teddy Roosevelt he went in and. bashed. in a dismantled Standard Oil which was. the mother of all monopolies and uh and. you know we got our democracy back right. and then in exactly 100 years later I. think 2008 citizens united cases pass is. that that ruling comes down from the. Supreme Court. it throws out this Hundred Year law this. 100 year old law that had said.

corporations can't give to the political. process. and so we threw that out and you know a. corporate our own Supreme Court throws. that out in 2008. and then or 2006 I forgot which but they. then you had this just wall the tsunami. of money pouring in and now. you know Democratic party right now has. two billion dollars well how do you get. two billion dollars it's with Joe Biden. sitting in the basement calling you know.

billionaires and 100 millionaires or. someone calling on his behalf or calling. on his behalf right and you know the. Senate you're not allowed to make those. calls from the Senate Office Building. right right. so the political parties of erected. buildings right next to the Senate and. as soon as the Senators vote they go. over these call centers and they sit on. the telephone and they make two or three. hundred calls a day. but if that's what you're doing you have.

to you each one of those owners you have. to get ten thousand dollars from them. and if you are doing that you do not. have time if you need to raise 50. million to run for Senate from ten. thousand dollar donors you got no time. to talk to the little guy right oh. they're living in a bubble we're the. only people who matter to them are the. people who can write a ten thousand. dollar check. and everybody else becomes invisible to. them and that's why to me.

Donald Trump rolled across this country. because all of these people in you know. Pennsylvania and Ohio. who are watching their lives deteriorate. their kids can't buy houses they're. being their Wells are being poisoned you. know their lives are upended and and uh. and they're. they're in this Dad this terrible dad. and they and no and living paycheck to. paycheck like Cheryl says. and nobody's listening to them they feel. like nobody is paying attention to them.

nobody is hearing them right now. the average. income in this country the average. income is five thousand dollars less. than the cost of basic human needs so. you know food what is the average income. in America I don't know I I think it's. around thirty four thousand Thirty. thirty five thousand I believe it's. around 34th and so you're saying that. that is this true well this is as of. about.

it that's tough yeah but in order to. live you need 36 right so what they're. doing is Americans I have a 5 000 on. average average American that's a five. thousand dollar deficit every year. they're putting that on their credit. card the credit card companies are. getting 22 percent and which if the. mafia gave you that they would go out to. jail for lawn shortening right.

that is coming from you know Chase. Manhattan and Wells Fargo and the worst. culprits are visas and Masters car those. are they have these little cars when I. was really confident they send you a. card that has a 250 activation fee yeah. to just activate the card and the limit. might be three hundred dollars so. literally I had one of these credit. cards when I had like no money yeah and. you know you go out to dinner because. you're like okay I have a credit card. now and you know you're not making the. best financial decisions but then it.

like does it work and then you go I have. room on this and they go no that the. activation fee is 250. like and then the. interest you pay is so crazy so that. cycle of poverty is very hard up to. escape those companies who owns Visa I'm. gonna take a guess and say BlackRock and. garden stage three so they're just. they're what they think I'm like a big. vacuum cleaner yeah like so it's a black. rocks you just walk through Washington. like lighting things on fire just.

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here once that we've recorded. um and uh you know this is fun so we. lost a lot of stuff and we're back and. we're gonna go through it again but it. was a blackout in the studio and it's. just fun you've had fire alarms at your. speeches pulled and who knows not. sounding paranoid not sounding paranoid. Black Rock State Street Vanguard we. don't know what happened but uh we'll. we'll say this well we we were in a. great discussion about the Ukraine war. um because we spent eight trillion.

dollars on Wars we've spent all of these. all of these interventions that we had. after 9 11 where all of these The. Architects of them these Neon. conservatives after that you know they. were shut out of government right they. kind of laughed they were disgraced. another popping up again they're popping. up again as Democrats and they are the. main a lot of them are uh some of the. main uh promoters of the idea of this. endless war in the Ukraine yeah and I. mean that's one of my. one of the things my uncle figured out.

when he uh four months into his. administration you know he had been. warned by Eisenhower about the emergence. of the military industrial complex which. would turn America into an imperial. State abroad. and a surveillance State a Garrison. State a Security State at home and you. know Eisenhower had said the thing that. our founding fathers had said. you cannot maintain democracy if you're. an imperial State abroad you're gonna. you know you'll bankrupt the middle. class you'll.

you'll turn us into a surveillance day. my uncle four months in recognized that. you know when he was lied to by the CIA. by Alan Dallas Charles Richard Bissell. and by the military brass about the pigs. and when the men were dying on the beach. you know he took public blame for it but. he privately told his aides I want to. take the CIA shattered into a thousand. pieces and Scatter it to the winds.

and um and then he fired Alan Dulles. Richard Bissell and Charles Cabell the. guys who were directly responsible for. lying to him but for the next Thousand. Days his administration he was in a. pitched battle. to keep our country out of War they. wanted the wars because that was that he. recognized that their job had devolved. into providing the military-industrial. complex military contractors a constant. pipeline of new orders to feed their. profits well. and you know the neocons uh which are.

neoconservatives for people who don't. know it's a movement that started in uh. early 1990s around 92 and uh. when the Berlin Wall came down and they. published a document that called a. project for New American Century that. said that because we were the Victor in. the cold war that America now had. the uh the right to rule the world uh. for a century or more at by using its.

Superior military Powers the unit power. so after 2001 we spent between then and. now we've spent eight trillion dollars. on Wars on regime change Wars it was. Iraq war and then all these spillover. wars in Yemen Libya Syria Pakistan and. Afghanistan. Etc what did we get for those Wars. here's what we got Iran Iraq is now. worse off than we found it it's an.

incoherent kind of battle between Shia. and Sunni death squads. we killed more Iraqis than Saddam. Hussein. we pushed we killed between 650 000 a. million Iraqis. we. have pushed Iraq into a proxy posture. with Iran which is exactly the foreign. policy outcome we've been trying to. avoid for decades uh we in the spillover. war in Syria we created Isis. we sent two million refugees into Europe.

and destabilize every democracy in. Europe you know we we created brexit. right the riots that are now happening. in France her direct result of that. those Wars. and we bankrupted the American middle. class because we didn't have the money. to pay for them so and that is you know. what we got and then we're given these. kind of comic book depictions. each time you know whether it's Gaddafi. whether it's a Saddam or given this this. this caricature of you know okay there's.

a bad guy here and there's a good guy. we're the good guys we're always the. good guys and here's the bad guy and. it's a. it's a black and white debate there is. no question about it if you side with. the bad guy if you question ask. questions about you know the action. it means you're on the side of Putin or. something right right and that that. whole game. so. um the the what happened I mean the. thing people should know about Ukraine. war we were told it's you know Putin.

wants to be the new Hitler he wants to. invade Europe and right right and but. when you look at what actually happened. it's much more complex than that and. much more nuanced. Putin actually steadfastly resisted. going to war he's he has said and that. Russians not just Putin but all the. Russian leaderships had said since 1992. if you move NATO to the east you're. going to provoke a violent response we. you know. uh. Russia's been invaded three times.

through Ukraine. the last time Hitler killed one out of. every seven Russians so they they you. know it's a national security priority. for them. a Ukraine cannot be under the control of. a hostile foreign power they can't. tolerate that and all of our greatest. diplomats George Cannon who was the. architect of the. entertainment policy after World War II. have constantly reiterated that if you. go into Ukraine with NATO you're going. to force Russians to have the violent.

response. also I here's what happened in 2014. we put five billion dollars. into the med on into funding the Madonna. Rebellion which is this you know. Uprising in Ukraine against. the duly elected governments of the. Ukraine which was neutral and maybe. leaned a little towards Russia but we. wanted them out and we paid five billion. dollars to in a in a series of.

demonstrations that ended in a coup. d'etat against that regime. and the installation of a pro-american. regime. Putin wants to settle things immediately. the first thing that new pro-american. regime did was it made it illegal to. speak the Russian language. and it um banned Russian political. parties too right yes yeah and when the. when Russian ethnic Russians.

which are 90 of that population when. they began peaceful demonstrations they. were attacked violently and ultimately. they it started a civil war or 14 000. more killed the Civil War really began. in 2014. Russia. tried to sell it the people of those. provinces voted. to join the Russian Union right and and. Putin said no so this is not consistent. with the portrait of him. and then he said we need a peace treaty. it protects these people I don't want to.

go in there but we need a peace treaty. and he agreed he negotiated with. France Germany England and. um and the U and Ukraine. on a peace treaty to organize a pastry. called the minska courts that would have. left. part of Ukraine as a semi-autonomous. region able to speak their own language. and that would have permanently kept. NATO out of Ukraine it was a reasonable. settlement. um.

zolenski who's a comedian and an actor. campaigns in 2019 and wins he has no. political experience but he wins in a. landslide 70 percent of ukrainians. support him why he went in on one issue. peace. he said I'm going to sign the Mexican. cords and I'm going to get a ratified in. the Ukrainian Parliament Ukrainian. people did not want a war and wanted. peace. he gets in there and suddenly he pivots. now why did he pivot nobody knows but I.

think it's fair gas and he pivoted for. two reasons one is that Ultra naturalist. in his government and he is Italian. um told him that they would kill him if. he negotiated a piece with Russia and. neocons particularly Victorian Newland. in the U.S White House and state. department told him the same thing that. he could not sign a peace Accord so he. abandons it. Russia goes in Putin goes in but only. with 40 000 people.

well he's got a lot more he's got a. million 1.2 million reserves but he only. sends 40 000 people in there why. this is a nation of 44 million people. Ukraine oh merely he's not trying to. conquer Ukraine with 40 000 troops right. he wanted to bring us the negotiating. table so and this and this they go in in. January. in March almost nobody's been killed at. that point comparative what's happened. now. he says okay let's negotiate peace he.

comes back to the negotiating table. and they if the U.S won't help him. oh he has to go to Israel and Turkey to. get their help negotiating a peace. Accord they negotiate a peace Accord. which is uh which is Minsk Accords 2.0. with Putin. lensky initials it the Russians initial. it and the Russians start withdrawing. their troops from Ukraine in good faith. what happens then Biden.

sends Boris Johnson over there the UK. prime minister to torpedo that peace. agreement and uh. and he and the landforcelinski to. tearing up and since then. 400 000 Ukrainian kids have been killed. on the front lines and I and you know. all of those kids and mothers and every. one of those lives was an unnecessary. tragedy and you know you know my son. went over there and fought I did not.

know that but I I had heard something. like that and that's amazing. well he and I. disagreed with the war yeah you know I. have tremendous respect for him and he. believed what he was doing he had great. sympathy Ukrainian people which I share. with Cheryl and I share of course he had. were never the ones. right and um I that's that's a badass. thing for him to do it shows his.

character to go over there and and fight. with Ukrainian people I mean we didn't. know that he was going yeah I would not. help if Manhattan Beach was invaded you. know what I mean like I wouldn't even do. that so the idea. yeah I would tweet about it so sad the. ransacking of Manhattan Beach I would. not who cares. I'm unaffected but no that's that's an. amazing thing and what uh is is he still. there is he oh he's back but he was in.

he fought in the court keep offensive he. was a. machined on Earth I mean you tell what. happened yeah I mean well he he. he. told us he was going somewhere but. wouldn't tell us where yeah um because. he said he didn't want us to be worried. yeah this would qualify as worry yeah. and then so after he left of course we. were worried because you know if. somebody says don't worry right I'm. gonna be okay it's like.

what well what are you doing right um. and then we started seeing some credit. card uh charges in Poland and we you. know put two and two together and right. but we couldn't reach him we couldn't we. couldn't communicate with him right it. was really it was very it was very. stressful so he was joined a special. forces. um uh unit he was uh in the Foreign. Legion. Ukraine important Legion and he fought.

in that offensive as a machine gunner. first the Drone operator which is the. most dangerous job because the Russians. can tell as soon as you turn on that. drone and then they and it's our. children they send artillery the. artillery kills anything within 300 feet. um and and then he became a machine. gunner and. um he uh and you know now he's back and. he's he just graduated law school so he. says thank God. but all I talked to him yesterday and.

all of the people that he served with. have either been killed or are. hospitalized you know. it's it's it's terrible. um but you gave a great succinct. explanation I think a lot of people are. confused about. uh why we're not trying to negotiate a. settlement why we're not trying to force. peace talks why that isn't something. that we're requiring along with all of. these donations and or I mean all of the. funding and the Weaponry.

um but I think you know it's it's pretty. clear to a lot of people that we may not. want peace talks that well and you know. there's people making a lot of money on. this and. um when you know we committed uh now 140. billion you know if if Biden gets the. extra 24 billion that he's looking for. oh but in March we opted to 113 billion. well the entire budget of EPA is 12. billion so that's all we've got for the. environment this country well we have 10.

times at. or Ukraine and um you know we're having. crisis here yeah we have a lot of we. have millions of people in the US that. can't eat that don't have enough it has. a lot of problems 35 of America's. resources are not making enough to pay. for basic human needs and those people. are on the edge of becoming homeless and. it's a crisis. um well the entire budget for CDC is 12. million. when we got 10 times that again.

when Mitch McConnell was asked in March. why are we in the um why are we in the. Ukraine why do we have enough money for. this where's the money coming from he. said don't worry about it. because that money's not really going to. Ukraine it's going to U.S military. contractors Raytheon General Dynamics. Boeing Lockheed. and you know so he admitted it it's just. a big money laundering scheme to the. military industrial complex and then if. you look.

who do you think actually owns all of. those companies Steve Vanguard BlackRock. exactly yes now you see it all goes back. to that yeah they're they're strip. mining the wealth from the American. middle class and shifting it upward. through all of these different. mechanisms they're literally control. everything so I mean and no one's. talking about this which is interesting. the Republicans aren't talking about it. the Democrats aren't talking about it. um you're the only candidate out there.

kind of bringing up these issues in this. way the media has been kind of. dismissive of you outright hostile and. now they're saying they want you to pay. for the Democratic dncs and they want. you to pay for primaries well that's one. of the things they're talking about the. dnc's does not want me in the primary. they. um. you know they have the candidates that. they want who's President Biden they. don't want him to debate they don't want. him to do retail politics they don't. want him to have unscripted uh.

conversations with. uh with voters and they definitely don't. want him to debate me. and so there I they look at me I think I. feel. um although I haven't spoken to them. directly I've written them but have not. gotten reply. as a colossal nuisance and. um and they're trying to they're doing. everything they can to fix the results. so.

one of the things they've done is. they've made it so that. um any vote that I get in Iowa or New. Hampshire. uh will count for Biden. and that and they're trying to do the. same thing now in Georgia they're trying. how are they doing that well they're. passing a rule that if you. any candidate who steps into the state. of New Hampshire Iowa to campaign. um we'll lose all their delegates. and.

um and so I've campaigned in both days. so I lose their delegates but now what. they're trying to do is is and they. we're going to know on September 14th. where they actually do it. is they're trying to pass another rule. that if you step foot in New Hampshire. or Iowa. that any vote you get in New in Georgia. which is a big big delicate State. um we'll also. account for the president and not for.

um you know so they're basically. disenfranchising everybody in those. States so there's no campaign and. they're talking about. this idea of making myself and Marianne. Williamson as the other Democratic. candidate to pay for all the primaries. ourselves are you enjoying this process. Cheryl of running for president. doesn't that sound fine I mean it sounds. fun I mean is this fun for you you're an. accomplished actress and comedian and. like you know is this fun going all over. the place and meeting people I'm sure it.

has its challenges but is it enjoyable. at all you know it's to interesting. because I did not think that it would be. fun of course being honest of course I. don't like crowds yeah but she's like. hostile you know of course yeah he's a. comedian right well yeah it makes people. happy right people laugh yeah but it was. interesting because I I met Bobby in. South Carolina and I thought I would.

just you know sit in the hotel room and. wait till he got home yeah. um but then I went out with him. everywhere and it was so interesting. because. I don't know when in my life I would ha. I would be going to like small. communities right in South Carolina and. just meeting people just listening to. people. um and it's it's very. um. sweet actually and it's very eye-opening.

yeah because you live a lot of people. live in your space your right Town your. city wherever and. um and so you get wrapped up in what's. going on in your city and what's going. on in Los Angeles is not necessarily a. reflection of what's going on right in. Middle America so right it's so really. interesting to to sit down and talk to. people and hear what they're going. through and what their struggles are and. what their hopes are. um it's a really.

um sort of magical way to see people. yeah and I know that you were an. environmentalist for a long time this is. a big part of your career people don't. know that but you were somebody who's. out there trying to protect. um things like national parks and rivers. and folks I don't even like national. parks and I I'm kind of I anti them. because everyone disappears in them and. but the reality is they have some. benefits but there's there's a lot of. things. I've said that many times national parks.

right here so if you're in there it's. like you're looking for a problem. um I like cities and and you know. industrial things the crime happening. yeah yeah I want more of that I don't. like this big expansion but you have. tried to protect uh the environment yeah. I mean why I ran a big. uh the biggest uh and found it the. biggest what is now the biggest water. protection group in the world which is. water keeper Alliance and I went to work.

in 1966 for I mean in 1984 for a blue. collar Coalition of commercial and. recreational fishermen. whose lives and livelihoods were being. destroyed by pollution on the Hudson and. we started suing polluters and I you. know represented them in over 500 cases. um against Hudson River polluters we. forced polluters to spend five and a. half billion dollars on. uh penalties on remediation.

um and today the Hudson is the richest. waterway in the North Atlantic so it. produces more pounds of fish per acre. more biomass per gallon. than any other waterway in the Atlantic. Ocean north the Equator is the last. major river system left that has a. strong spawning stocks of all of its. historical species of migratory fish. and the miraculous Resurrection the. Hudson spawned the creation of of of now. 350 water keepers. all over the world were in 46 countries.

where on most of the waterways in the. United States we have them here on Santa. Monica Bay each one has a patrol boat we. Patrol the waterways we track down. polluters and we sue them but we're a. law enforcement group. yeah and it's not and it's not just. water I mean I watched him and his uh. Law Firm Sue Monsanto because of the. Roundup so you know Roundup is a weed. killer and there was one man who was a. groundskeeper at a school who would wear.

Roundup on his back you know like on a. tank on his back and he started getting. lesions and reached out to uh Monsanto. and said is it possible that right this. is giving me lesions and so when when. they said and I never called him they. never called him they discussed but. internally and made a decision we better. not call him back because it probably is. yeah it's causing and so uh so so.

something like that where they they sued. Monsanto and they you know it's clear. that Roundup did cause lesions and he he. got uh Non-Hodgkin's lymphoma. um. but just the idea of standing up against. these huge corporations and in this case. it was on behalf of one man but of. course there were lots of cases all over. the country yeah. um but being able to say it's not okay.

you guys knew that it was killing people. right we have here's your email Trail. um and and then to win against Monsanto. it's a huge series it's a huge victory. yeah and it presents. um you know. companies that got corporations like. that you know in the future from you. know utilizing those same types of. dangerous chemicals and I mean what. about the food in this country the food. is incredibly unhealthy and polluted and. you go to Europe and other places you're.

not allowed to put certain things in. food like GMOs right right and that's. why a lot of people you know eat we were. talking the other day eating bread or. pasta in this country and they get. gluten allergies celiac disease all. these allergic reactions. then they go to Italy and they can eat. it without any consequence and that's. because I I've been suing the. agricultural industry for now 40 years I. probably you know brought as many.

lawsuits against the big companies like. Smithfield uh. uh Tyson's Pilgrim Purdue the big animal. factories that are creating a lot of the. pollution. uh probably bought more than any other. attorney against those companies and um. and one uh and you know but I I've. watched the corruption and the capture. of the Department of Agriculture by big. Agriculture and just. USDA was created to protect the small.

farmer and to ensure as a wholesome food. supply and today the function of that. agency. is to destroy for the small farmers to. um to you know to create a safe spot. from Monsanto and Cargill and all of. these big agricultural BMS industrial. agricultural polluters. and chemical Agriculture and. the food that we get from that process. is not really food it's a it's filler. that you know has all kinds of poisons.

in it and it lacks almost any. nutritional value right. and we're poisoning a whole generation. of Americans we now have the highest. chronic disease rate of any country in. the world. and because of that we pay them biggest. Health bills we pay. or 0.3 trillion dollars a year in. healthcare. and that's two or three or four times. more per capita than any other country. and. we have the worst health results so we. you know we have I think we're 79th now.

in terms of health outcomes behind. Mongolia behind Cuba. and during covet we had the highest. coveted body count of any country in the. world we we have. uh we have 4.2 percent of the global. population but we had 16 percent of the. club of the deaths so. we at the highest kill rate of any. country in the world and you know why. they're giving people awards for that. million dollar prizes Etc.

um when we had the worst record for. caring for Americans of Any Nation we. had 200 times the death rate of Nigeria. so do we need more regulation. well what we need is less. um do you surround yourself with guns. you've got to get rid of the agency. capture you've got to get rid of the. financial entanglements and these. perverse incentives right. um that give advantage to the you know. to the uh chemical agriculture over you.

know regenerative farming and we we need. to. actually support farmers who want to. take care of the soil who want to. produce healthy nutritious foods for. Americans and that's what you know. that's what I'm going to do I know how. to do it. this is your wheelhouse because you guys. actually met at an environmental event. we did yes yeah we met at a water keeper. event okay it was a skiing it was a it.

was it was a fundraiser so it was a. skiing event and um and Larry was on his. way and he's like you want to go with me. and I said uh yeah okay and then we got. there and then we met Bobby and um and. that I mean I made them skinny they. didn't I didn't want to ski oh I didn't. think we were going to ski yeah. um but they they came and then that was. sick and then both of us were married at. that time right oh we didn't you know. nothing. um there was no like spark turning into.

a flame but then. I think six or seven years later Larry. brought her back to another and I was. very good friends with Larry I lived. with him for two summers we went on all. of our family vacations together. and he had just started curb the first. time right I mean Curb Your Enthusiasm. and that was the first time I met Cheryl. and she came back six years and we were. kind of friendly but you know. and then it never really saw you right. right but then yeah then I was I was.

going through a divorce and he was going. through a divorce and it was like oh hi. oh hi right how are you fun yeah yeah. interesting and what's it like being now. I'm kind of member of the Kennedy family. and this has got to be this is a very. interesting family to to to marry into. yeah it is it is it is it's and it is. interesting yes on you know on one level. there just a family right everybody sits. around and we play charades and it's. right fun and is that what you guys said.

I don't think Kennedys are doing are. they playing charades that's not what we. thought okay okay. very competitive game I I would imagine. they're competitive yeah oh my gosh yeah. um so on one hand you know you have that. and then on the other hand you know I. don't know your play Trivial Pursuit and. it's like oh your uncle you know and. that's weird right because it's like. this yeah worldwide. uh well it's like this legendary.

American family that you're now a part. of yeah yeah I mean interesting it's. amazing how have the how has the. response been from the family to you. running is this good is this mixed is it. it's a big family right I would say if. they all voted or I think there was 105. of us at the cave um over Fourth of July. weekend. if they all had to vote I would I think. I think Biden would beat me.

my family loves him okay. his family yes yes I have a lot of. people who support me in our family but. probably slightly more than our uh I. don't know I mean they're. they're. um. uh you know I feel loved by my whole. family right so I don't feel like it's I. think that you know but is it fair to. say that there's some people in the. family they're institutionalists and. yeah and there you know there's five.

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Administration yeah okay a lot of them. are in the administration or have. big Charities like uh you know. um. uh anyway you know run big well you know. like maybe Special Olympics right or you. know that are very have a very strong. important relationships with NIH or with. government of course and that and it's. understandable it's understandable. do you think that the inquiry uh that.

the Republicans are opening up into uh. Hunter Biden into Joe Biden into the. Ukraine the burisma the energy stuff do. you think that gets to impeachment oh I. don't know and you know what Tim I kind. of stay away from. because I'm trying to focus on issues. that you know right the kind of values. that people have in common rather than. the inflammatory stuff that keeps us all.

apart and uh you know so and and the. other thing is anything. that I say about those issues is kind of. suspect and and really doesn't Advance. you know the understood understood well. let me let me ask you a few more things. I really do appreciate you guys coming. on I do think that you are you make some. very interesting points in a way that. very few people are right now about the. lack of affordability uh the the lack of. housing uh a generation that's kind of.

being poisoned with uh food that's being. impoverished with a lot of these um. policies that are not that are going. unchecked where you know you have these. companies being able to buy up large. swaths of of American homes. um. but let's talk for a brief moment about. corporations that do good right like the. pharmaceutical industry. because we should at least mention.

because there are good ones and good. ones there are good ones but then there. are you very much. um. want vaccines to be safe this is your. whole thing yeah I'm accused of being. anti-vaxx and that's kind of a. pejorative that is applied to me to. marginalize me and to silence me that oh. he's against all vaccines and that. therefore he's crazy and you shouldn't. listen to anything he says and I've.

never said that and I've never felt that. way I feel like vaccines like other. medicine if they work I'm for him. but let's make sure they're properly. tested both for safety and for advocacy. let's make sure that we know. that that product is not causing more. problems then it's averting that's right. oh um is it your intention to take. vaccines away from people oh of course. not and I um. you know I mean I am against mandates. because I'm just go against generally.

for bodily autonomy that comes for. abortion or you know people should be. able to make up their own minds. about what to put in their bodies and. how to treat their bodies Etc yeah we. need those personal freedoms but I don't. but otherwise I think that everything. that I say about vaccines of people. actually heard me talk that I'm 99 of. Americans would say. um yeah that makes a lot of sense they.

should be tested in in Placebo control. sounds like every other medicine is and. they're not yeah outside of vaccines or. do you think we're over medicated as a. country yeah I mean I know we're over. medicated we take three times the amount. of pills. as anybody does in Europe on average and. and uh medication those pharmaceutical. drugs are now the third leading cause of. death in this country. after heart attacks and cancer so. they're not making us healthier and uh.

you know they're of course. there are drugs that help people. um but you know we are over medicated in. this country and part of that is because. of Television advertising of. pharmaceuticals that we are there's only. two nations in the world where it's. legal to advertise pharmaceutical. products on television. that's New Zealand and us and it's. unhealthy it's uh we shouldn't be doing. it it should be illegal it was. in our drugstores if you go to another.

country's drugstore there might be two. or three aisles Maybe. our drugstores have 10 aisles of just. just medications and pills and potions. and powders oh we're also the sickest. country in the world right higher. chronic disease well we've still got. that going for us we've still got that. going for us for the sickest. hundreds I mean that might be a good. campaign slogan RFK we are the sickest. country in the world let's fix that. um yeah but it is true that we take a.

lot of medication. um we have a lot of uh you know uh. issues in this country you know in terms. of mental health that we don't address. right or like mental health care just. like physical health care is not great. and I think a lot of people you know the. root cause of some of those issues might. be diet they might be situational they. might be clinical they might be. biological but like nobody's figuring. that out no so people are just throwing.

pills at people yeah. yeah that's exactly right I mean we you. know listen the industry Right medical. cartel and the pharmaceutical industry. which is the core of that cartel benefit. from having a sick population right and. you know I'm not saying there's somebody. sitting somewhere you know with the. cabal saying let's make everybody sick. or. that's another just like everyone's sick. right if we're making money yeah right.

exactly and the more chronic disease the. more drugs they can sell and we've got a. whole generation it's a feedback loop. I mean there's always listen there's 150. million. um uh or 120 million uh benzo. prescriptions every year 120 million. ssris so we're talking about. benzodiazepines talk about things like. Xanax yeah and right now. 118 million. Adderall prescriptions yes and so you've.

got this 118 million Adderall. prescriptions and benzos and cheese you. know our kids are all like they're. hopped up to The Kills. and a lot of that is because there's. chronic disease rates these kids all. have not only you know they have. physical illnesses they've got. autoimmune diseases like we've never. seen before rheumatoid arthritis. juvenile diabetes uh they've got. a Crohn's disease all these things that.

we never heard of before lupus and then. they've got allergic to peanut allergies. suddenly appeared right ubiquitous. around 1989. asthma exploded all of these allergic. diseases and this might be we might be. over vaccinating people there might we. might not be you know there's a whole. there's. what we do know is it's it happened. around 1989 right and that is when the. vaccine schedule exploded and that's. when all of these uh diseases all those.

disease are listed as side effects on. those products right I don't think it's. the I I it that's not the only issue. there's a lot of other. Roundup became ubiquitous around that. timeline near naked white pesticides. pfoas which are flame retardants which. I've litigated on um you know. extensively and they became it went into. every child pajamas all of our furniture. at that time. cell phones appear there's a lot of it.

has to be in environmental exposure. right but it's probably just a a. combination of all of these our kids are. now swimming around. in a toxic soup and the food they eat is. contaminated the air they breathe. contaminated the water they drink is. contaminated and it has mental health. issues. impacts it has physical impacts as it. has spiritual impacts ultimately on them. and. you know what what we ought what NIH.

ought to be doing is. um looking at very easy for them to do. they have a 42 billion dollar annual. budget they give that. money to 56 000 scientists mainly in. universities and they give them. assignments and say look at these issues. why aren't any of them looking at what. is causing the autism epidemic system. it's really the money unfortunately it's. the money we're gonna we're gonna have. to get people off I mean that's the. problem right because people.

are blinded by self-interest to the. point where they just and and that's. your challenges as you know as somebody. running for president is basically how. do you. you know fight that innate desire of of. people to help themselves at the expense. of others yeah well you know one of the. uh interesting unanticipated. benefits I believe of of what happened.

during covet where they locked down the. entire country right is it okay it. suddenly becomes permissible now for us. to have big solutions to problems. right so if we fight you know I would. say five years ago that if you found out. that glyphosate which is the you know. the. um. active ingredient of Roundup was causing. uh. he let's say that you know we learned. for sure that it's causing the.

um aceliac and grow and uh and gluten. allergies to all the merits yeah that. you're seeing now ubiquitous. at five years ago even if we knew that. definitively. um they'd still say well you know it's. still too important to agriculture to. ban it right and now I think you can say. hey you just shut down the entire. economy with 3.3 million businesses we. locked down.

or and close many of them permanently. bankrupt. in order to prevent a disease so let's. you know start preventing chronic. disease that are much worse than covid. right and now with a big program now. because it's kind of I think yeah you. you know it may be now easier for people. to imagine. Banning entire product lines in order to. right then it would have been before. coven yeah so you could go in and say.

we're done. you know like things like that right I. mean we grew up eating fast food really. bad our parents would take us there. because they kind of trusted the. government in this way that like you. know they were like if it was that bad. you know I'm sure they would have. figured it out the FDA will give the.

kids you know Lunchables or whatever. garbage I mean My Generation grew up. eating all this stuff because the gut. the the people trusted the people in. power to the extent that they were like. hey I guess it's fine it was like big. tobacco yeah yeah. I don't I think it's okay right right. it'll be fine it was killing one out of. every four of us customers who use the. product is directed yeah or 60 years. nobody did anything right and then you.

know. um the lawyers came in but you know one. of the things that I'll do. as president as people say that well you. know you can't ban products like that. because they're the manufacturers like. on Santa are too powerful and you know. they'll never let you do it and then but. here's the thing if you have good. science. at you know which I can do at by. controlling NIH. good science that shows okay they're the.

reason we're having the Obesity epidemic. is because of high fructose corn syrup. right right and that's you know and it's. causing diabetes causing all these cause. and then all the even if you know the. lobby is up there on Capitol Hill saying. the agriculture Lobby and the porn Lobby. is saying we we can never stop that well. guess what. you have really clear science on the. books that showing that link now the. plaintiff's lawyers are going to come. out of the woodwork you know what's. really interesting all the body positive.

stuff a lot of it that's been coming out. has been actually backed by like Nestle. of course I mean this is crazy of course. but I mean we don't know I mean it's. kind of funny but it's like like when. you see something crazy where it's just. like people that are you know it's wild. you know people you know and there's. somebody on the cover of a magazine that. should not be there. [Music].

can we say that it's new that they're. there now it's a new thing now when. they're there A lot of times that you. will look at some of that stuff and it. is sponsored by people that are are. making junk food and I'm not a model. myself I'm not saying you know I'm just. saying that is. true that the the incentives and the.

people that are behind certain things. would be fascinating it's interesting. when you look at like the money behind. certain campaigns that spring up. supposedly organically out of nowhere. but that behind those campaigns is. actual money and actual corporate. interests. yeah and then put anyone on the cover. you want I'm not saying that it's uh you. know right that they shouldn't be there. no nothing they shouldn't be there let's. just see you know what's behind of.

course choices I just right that's all. I'm saying I know that it's hard I I. mean listen I get it you know and do you. you guys disagree on stuff and that. doesn't mean you don't love each other. this is a whole thing in our country now. people are not allowed to disagree. people are not allowed to say hey this. person feels this way I feel this way. but we're both like Americans like. something happened during covid where we. just got so sad at each other and angry. at each other and and hateful the. discourse is is is is is is is one of.

the lowest points. you know that's why when you were asking. me about going on the road that's what I. found so interesting about even going to. South Carolina because. Bobby attracts crowds of Republicans and. Democrats and independents so in one. room you have hundreds of people who you. know. people that I always thought would just. be angry at each other just because. they're in different parties but he's. attracting people that are in different.

parties that are saying yeah I'm. listening and I want to listen to how we. can solve this so it's and and you don't. always feel that like perhaps in Los. Angeles that's right I don't feel that. so much I feel like it's very divided it. must be tough for you because I can't. tell you how many people have come up to. us and say you're keeping our marriage. together right it was a you know. trumpers and married to a button. interesting yeah it is interesting. interesting but I mean this is like I I.

think it's important for people to see. that. people share a ton of commonalities yeah. you know that's right and and it's like. even more so than our differences that's. exactly what we're yeah everybody want. nobody wants crime everybody wants right. everybody wants some level of equality. that you know everybody to get a fair. shake that view of America they want. healthy kids they don't like you know.

the things that we all share the desires. the aspirations for our country for. ourselves everybody wants more freedom. you ask people about these General. issues. and then we're it's almost like you know. and I I said this to Bobby Lee the other. day I said it's almost orchestrated the. you know the the anger you know feels. Orchestra and manipulative that you know. the anger that we're that is is drummed. up between us.

you know over issues that affect the. tiny sliver of the population and we're. all fighting over this right you know. whether somebody can use a bathroom or. not. and it's like somebody is jangling the. keys and everybody's attention is on the. keys and meanwhile they're those guys. are robbing the bank. yes and they're telling us look at that. way right you know who's not right about. that right right instead of these actual. big obstructions. problems right yeah they're distracting.

us from getting together and say hey. wait a minute you know you guys don't. like each other remember right right. remember you guys hate each other yeah. um well listen I really appreciate both. of you coming I really appreciate you. coming on Cheryl and and and and you. coming on as well I know that you have. such a you know incredibly busy schedule. and you know a lot of the people that I. know are very interested in seeing what. you what you guys have to say you know. because it's like a big and I'm I'm glad. that you're out with him you know.

because I know in the beginning it was. you know it's hard it's hard yeah but uh. doing your thing yeah but it's like it's. such a big thing he's doing it's like. running for president yeah I know so. it's you know what I mean it's like. because in the beginning I felt like you. were like this is his thing he's doing. his [ __ ] he's. tinkering around he's running for. president I'm gardening I'll be on set. I'll be on set I'm acting but he's this. is a big thing and I think um you know. like I said everybody loves you and a.

lot of people love you. so I think that's the best that's the. best thing where can people go if they. want to support the campaign see you. live donate spread the word of what. you're doing. go ahead they can go to Kennedy. kennedy24.com. kennedy24.com can you follow him on. Instagram and on uh yes. on Ax. yes and Tick Tock yeah and tick ten.

everywhere and and um what's uh any. final thing to add because I mean it. does seem like you're getting more. traction and and you're you know you. seem really deadly serious about this. and like you know a lot of people are. out there. um and it's kind of exciting because we. kind of got a mess if you look at the. people running him it's kind of a mess. I know I you know. I. um. you know I mean I I our objective from. the beginning is that how do we bring.

people together how do we remind people. that I mean there's polarization is so. toxic in our country more toxic. and more dangerous than any time since. the Civil War right and um we have to. stop you know hating each other we we. need to be able to have debates that are. congenial that are mutually respectful. and be able to you know my uncle. Ted Kennedy has his name on more beats. of legislation than any other senator in.

American history and the way that he did. that you know he was on the left wing of. the democratic party but he was friends. with all the Republicans right he would. come home on the weekends with people. like Orrin Hatch who you know I thought. was like Darth Vader because he was so. bad on my issue the environment. and I was like Teddy how can you be. friends with him and he was like I am. you know and if he found. commonality and with Robert Byrd or yeah.

he'd bring these guys home and they. would write songs for each other they. would write poetry for each other. was singing songs and writing poetry. that's amazing well no but this is good. this is encouraging to hear yeah and so. this is the way I feel about Putin like. give him a guitar and let's figure it. out we can do this you know RFK thank. you thank you Cheryl thank you so much. we appreciate it of course thank you. guys.