A Case For Israel with Noa Tishby | The Tim Dillon Show #368
ladies and gentlemen welcome to the Tim. Dylan show we have a really exciting. episode today Noah tishby is here uh she. is the uh big Israel Advocate she was. just profiled in the New York Times and. we talked to her uh some news on the. book I am switching Publishers we did. not really get along these are things. that happen I'm not a huge fan of people. editing me so um we're trying to work it. out where we can keep some of the pre. the pre-sales I don't know if we can so. you all may get refunded and then just. there'll be no other pre-sales you just. come buy the book when it's out in the. spring um but we couldn't really hammer.
out an agreement on what I wanted so um. that's the way it is you know it's like. hey who cares um so go out we'll see. I'll do a little book tour in the spring. we'll be out talking about the book uh. this is an interesting episode Noah. knows a lot about Israel she's a fierce. advocate of Israel and a staunch. defender of Israel and I'm sure there's. a lot of people that will agree with her. there's a lot of people that will.
disagree with her it's a very good. conversation very respectful I. appreciate her taking the time to speak. with us so without further Ado here is. Noah tishby ladies and gentlemen welcome. to the Tim Dylan show special guest here. Noah. tishby uh I pronounced that right um I. became aware of you a few weeks ago when. you were on your Instagram page uh. talking about what's going on in the. Middle East um and I read a little bit. about you you are very accomplished.
person um you worked for Benjamin. netanyahu's government nope no well. that's for very briefly but we'll get to. that in a second okay but I wasn't. completely I'm not completely I was. appointed I was appointed so I'm a I'm a. I'm Israeli American I was born born and. raised in Israel um I was a an actress. and a producer I first I brought the. first television show to the United. States and treatment uh sold it to HBO. it was the first television format to. ever make it to Israel to America from. Israel.
I have been an Israel Advocate and a. Jewish Advocate and worked in the. anti-Semitism space for a very long time. I started the first online advocacy and. rep response organization uh in 2011 and. in um last year I was appointed by yir. Leed actually uh to be Israel's first. special Envoy for combating. anti-Semitism and. delegitimization and I worked for the. Leed benett government which was the. quote unquote the good government in. terms of the um uh American kind of left.
and progressives and uh then the new. government got in which is much more uh. right-wing and much more religious and I. still said I was going to I wanted to. continue working because I feel like the. space of anti-Semitism is more important. than any politics and then I criticized. the uh attempt in a Judicial overhaul in. Israel and was relieved from my position. so I can I I can say that I worked for. the Netanyahu government for a couple of. months briefly very brief and you were. dismissed I was dismissed so you were a.
Critic of the right-wing uh what you. felt was right-wing overreach of the. Netanyahu government which is which is. the perfect example of how you can you. can criticize Israeli government. policies while acknowledging that Israel. has the right to exist as a Jewish state. which is what we are actually here to. discuss right what in your estimation. what has the media gotten. wrong about the narrative about what has. happened since the Mass Attack oh the.
question is what did the media get wrong. in the past like 25 years or or even. more so first of all let's go back for a. second on October 7th Israel was invaded. not by like a couple acute terrorists. which is when we say a terrorist attack. you kind of think you know 5 6 10 19. like we had here in September 11th what. people need to understand is that Israel. was invaded by nearly 3,000 terrorists. not give or take so it's a battalion. it's essentially a mil AR that attacked.
Israel from the south broke the Border. down and uh invaded cities and towns and. kbim with the clear orders to murder. Slaughter rape torture and kidnap as. many people as they possibly can the. stories the photos the videos that are. coming out of it so they not only did. they create like they caused the. greatest Slaughter and Massacre on the. Jewish people since the Holocaust in one. day so 50 1500 now people men women and.
children were were slaughtered that day. the level of barbar barbarism and sadism. is beyond the pale and they filmed it so. their intention was to show the world. and the Jewish Community what it is that. they're capable and willing to do I. can't that there was there's the the. beheading of babies the burning of fames. up alive there was a I'm I'm sorry to be. graphic but I'm I'm just going to have. to be there's a there was a 30-year-old.
woman who was pregnant they sliced her. belly open they pulled out the F fetus. and they beheaded that fetus such that. they literally I mean. inum torturing families next to the. children P like it's unbelievable right. right and this is something that. Israel's been dealing with in a very. small scale for a very long time so. there's this culture of radical Islam. radical Islamic Nazism basically that is. not interested in what we in the west.
think that they're interested in so what. they're not interested is a two-state. solution what they're not interested is. um living peacefully side by side what. they're not interest in anything that we. hold dear as our Western values and this. is one of the things that I've been. trying to warn against for a very long. time and a lot of us has because we you. you think that you can the the American. um specifically like the Left Right is. creating some sort of a projection. they're projecting their values on the. region and they're saying oh well well.
certainly everybody just wants to live. in peace like certainly every mother. just wants the children to grow up and. have a great future and as a liberal. Living in America when I moved from. Israel to here it was very challenging. for me to see that a lot of people don't. get that they don't get that no not. everybody has the same culture so but. this is also many many years no to. answer your question about the media the. re I also um uh I wrote a book a a. couple years ago it came out and it's. it's called Israel A Simple Guide to the. most understood country on earth and the.
reason I wrote that book is because I. realized that there's no no book that. tells the story of Israel in a way. that's easy to understand that's like. fun that's funny God forbid right and I. literally wrote that book because the. media was getting Israel wrong all the. time and that is I mean the book is. selling again really well and people are. finding it now because everything that's. happening right now including the media. including universities including all of. it is is written in the book because. it's been something that I've been. working on for a long time.
there has been and is an anti-israel. media bias that as an Israeli and an. American Jew right is kind of funny when. people keep blaming the Jews for having. a media cabal well aren't there a lot of. Jews that work in the media a lot of. Jews working in a field doesn't equate. control of the field no for sure so. here's where anti-Semitism jumps in. which is anti-Semitism is anti-jewish. racism it's where you have this. subconscious bias against.
the other people right blacks and Asians. and whatever you're kind of like. suspicious about them got with. anti-Semitism it's not simple racism so. it's not you don't don't just look down. at something or someone you look up at. them a little bit so anti-Semitism in. essence is a shape-shifting conspiracy. theory and the conspiracy theory sounds. like yeah these [ __ ] Jews they. control everything right right so when. you think to yourself for real that the. Jews control everything and a lot of. your viewers and listeners right now are. like well don't they that is a.
conspiracy theory and that is what. allows later on for your opinions to be. about Israel to be completely skewed so. if you think that the Jews control. everything then of course Israel is the. big bad wolf because like the Jews. control everything and we're sitting. there going we are the worst [ __ ]. cabal in the world now it was very funny. to some extent but now it's not funny. anymore well no for sure but is is there. a space like you said to be critical of. maybe the settler program you can the.
expansionism of uh you know moving yeah. here's the thing yeah you can be a. republican a Democrat a Libertarian it. doesn't matter what right none of us. love the policies of putting kids in. cages. right in the border right nobody well. was liberal Jews have been the ones. who've advocated on behalf of having a. lot of immigration wait wait wait wait. wait wait wait wait wait wait pause. pause for a second that's another wait. just a second nobody is for any there. are policies in America that we don't. love right.
nobody's talking about dismantling. America right but I don't think any. serious people are talking about. dismantling Israel you think so are you. seeing what's happening in colleges I. literally had the same argument with. Bill Mar and he's like no and I'm like. colleges have gone insane but that's the. young American Minds that are going. around and saying from The River To The. Sea Palestine will be free and they're. saying something like this and this is. something that I've noticed like 10. years ago right the conversation about. Israel in certain circles turned from. policy. BB Netanyahu yes or no settlements yes.
or no policies which is totally legit to. have a conversation about something that. sounded like this. right yeah but like is Israel a real. State though or is it like a colonialist. Settler's Endeavor that needs to be. dismantled then that is something that. can't we can't allow to happen Israel is. the only country that you have a debate. on whether or not it should exist insane. I I don't know of any serious person. that I know of that has said Israel. doesn't have a right to exist you're. absolutely right the normal people that.
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of the the opera house so what's by the. way just so you're clear it's a massacre. that occurred in the Jewish people that. people on the left are asking for more. Massacre why are the why are Jewish. people so devoted to the Democratic. party when the Democratic party says. we're going to bring every culture into. America no matter what their feeling is. towards Jews or what their values are or. whether they like Western culture or not. why why have the Jewish people. historically been so pro Democrat well I.
can't answer to immigration specifically. because everybody knows from the. Democrats or Republicans everybody knows. that um we need to have some sort of an. immigration reform there's no question. about that although I got to say that. saying that there's no immigration. system that's based on Merit is also. insane because I came into the country. based on an immigration system that's. based on Merit I had to prove that I was. it's called extraordinary in field. that's how I got my citizenship which. I'm a very proud American to so you know. I do think that do you think it's a. little far though to I understand listen. college kids are nuts do you think it's.
a good idea when you have the CEOs of. companies coming out and going I want a. list of all the college kids who went to. the protest I want a list of everybody. who signed this letter to the Harvard uh. Crimson whatever can I tell you. something because it does seem like it's. a little a cabal behavior well it does. seem overly paranoid and it does seem. like I I completely understand where it. comes from but I don't think it's the. right course of action to take because. it feels again it feeds into the a of a.
cal of a control of a yeah it's people. going I want to know everybody who's. ever disagreed with me and if a dumb kid. is 19 and goes to a protest should they. never get a job or should they be. blacklisted got I got to tell you all. I'm for is equal opportunity okay and. what we have seen as the Jewish. community in the past like few years. right is that every marginalized. Community is getting uh protected is. getting people are are uh sensitive. about it there's no microaggressions. towards any other marginalized Community. everybody's very sensitive but when it.
comes to the Jewish Community when it. comes to um Israel which is protected. under title six right of the human right. of the of the Civil Rights Act Right all. bets are off so right now what's. happening is the pantum is going to the. other direction look am I for any kind. of naming names I'm absolutely not but. right if somebody said something anti um. uh racist or anti or or xenophobic or. anti- or misogynistic they're going to. get repercussions and up until now if. somebody said anything anti-semitic. there were no repercussions so I'm I'm.
all for equal opportunity if you're. doing this for any other minority you do. that for the Jews as well because let's. just do you know how many Jews there are. in the world what the percentage of Jews. in the world me yeah do I know how many. Jews yeah you you have to know you don't. I would say it's 10% of 10% of the. population of the world population maybe. 3% I I grew up in Long Island and now I. live in Beverly Hills So my answer when. somebody says how many Jews are it's. always many because I come from Long.
Island percentage of Jews in the world. is. 0.18 that's wild there are okay let me. say this that's very few 14.9 or 15.1. depend on who you're count or what. you're counting million Jews in the. world so let's just go 15 right right. that's it wow that's it it's less than. the population of LA that's it yeah. that's it in the entire universe and Jew. and Israel is the only Jewish State. Israel is the only Jewish they 21 Arab.
State give us a [ __ ] break that's. what we've been saying we're like relax. on this we are a minority we are. marginal okay to look at the context of. it like I fully think that the Hamas. attack was barbaric and that Israel has. a right to defend itself that's 100% the. case does Israel have the right to exist. I believe so great then by the way to. your viewers you're a Zionist well I. don't know well but here's the thing I. will say you're just afraid of that word. has to also hang on hang on you just. let's just talk about that word for a. second because that word was taken away.
from us to mean something different but. they won't let me host a Daily Show why. I don't know but if they do I'll be a. Zionist but they does that have to do. with they won't even give me a test they. won't even give me a test how how come. what why not I don't know what does that. have to do withal no I'm kidding talk to. the cabal can I tell you one more thing. I've been saying this for like two years. I've been joking I'm like they keep. saying we have a cabal may as well start. acting like we the thing is the so the. thing about being a Zionist is like I. I'm not an Evangelical Christian because. I'm not going out there being like you.
believe in Jes to me Zionism is like. this weird evangelism where it's like. you're going out and telling people all. the time isn't that what it kind of is. absolutely not but I love that we're. having this conversation because people. I've noticed in the past like decade or. so that people are saying Zionism as if. it's like some sort of an evil Zionism. is the Jewish people's right for a state. that's it okay that's all it is in a. little bit more um kind of elaborated is. it is it is it is it is inherent in that. the Jewish people's right for the state. to be wherever Israel want to be.
wherever the borders are absolutely not. the Zionism is a movement for Jewish. Liberation and self-determination in. some parts of their ancestral land in a. Jewish not an exclusively Jewish state. so it was never supposed to be an. exclusively Jewish it is but it is. pretty much an ethnos State now no it. isn't they're 21% of Arab Israelis of. Arab Israelis Palestinians living within. Israel but they're Jewish is no they're. Muslims and Christians and they have. full voting rights full voting rights. that's the other that's the other.
[ __ ] well I'm just saying what's out. there you're amazing that's why I'm. coming on the show listen I'm coming on. a comedy show in the middle of a war so. obviously it's important right you know. and I'm not I'm not making light of. anything right of course Israel is the. only country in the in the in the Middle. East where Christian population is. growing okay Israel is not an apartheid. state that was something that has been. con like the the popul people are going. to be watching this right now and their. mind's going to go by the way I told you. this before we get ready for a lot of. well listen the reality is I when people.
come on I let them say what they're. going to say because this is but I love. you got to push back on I am pushing. back a little bit but I believe in in. the the ability of anybody to go and. speak freely yes and that's what I've. always believe that's what I've built my. career on so very so let me go back. people are not agreeing with you people. are agreeing with you let me go back to. the aparte stage because your viewers. and listeners are going to freak out. right now okay within the green line. within the state of Israel what is. defined as what is the state of Israel. equal rights one one person one vote.
there are Arab Muslims on the Supreme. Court bench there's a Supreme Court. Judge who an Arab a Supreme Court Judge. has sentenced the former president of. Israel to jail there are. 21.8% of uh doctors and nurses in Israel. are Arabs Arab Israelis have the same. rights as Jews okay now Gaza is not even. occupied by Israel at all right so Gaza. was that was supposed to be Palestine. number one the West Bank is a military.
control on hold been waiting to. negotiate some sort of a peace with the. Palestinians so when you talk about. Israel's an apartheid state you are 100%. wrong if you want to talk about what's. happening in the West Bank that's a. whole other conversation the people in. Gaza cannot leave well of course they. can't leave because Kamas is not letting. them out even through RAF through Egypt. right but they're they're living in this. place that is kind of like a prison 100%. they're existing in these horrible. conditions 100% Israel has limited the. type of supplies that can go in there.
historically you why you know why I. don't because for years we've been. saying that Hamas has taking the supply. to build tunnels to arm and look at what. happened you know right now that they. they found out the Hamas is holding. gasoline not giving it to the population. not letting them leave didn't Israel. fund Hamas and didn't they want Hamas. instead of the PLO because Hamas was. more extreme and easier to delegitimize. whereas the PLO was pushing for two. states solution has Israel always been.
interested in a two-state solution or is. their support of Hamas signaling that. they actually don't want a two-state. solution they'd rather this crazy. terrorist group controlling Gaza so that. they never have to have a two-state. solution a lot to unpack there so um. Israel uh is with along with Hamas with. Qatar with the US everybody kind of fell. into Hamas pretend game so Hamas in. their Charter is very clear and I talk. about this in my book that what they're. after is destroying the Jewish state Jad. on all the Jews Slaughter all the Jews.
except for the ones that are hiding. behind the Jewish tree and then the tree. and the stone are going to say oh. there's a Jew behind me like it's. ridiculous it's a joke it's almost it's. like a joke their Charter but that's. what they're after in recent years. they've been playing a game of like no. no no you can work with us it's fine. well we're you know we'll we'll be okay. and Israel mistake mistook this like. literally made the mistake of thinking. that they actually want to rule the. Palestinians that they're actually. interested in some sort of a normality. and they were not this was a ploy in.
order to destroy Israel and what they. did in the process is sacrifice Gaza and. it's not for nothing believe they could. destroy Israel Israel's so they had a. plan but they Israel has so much. military Supremacy it seems true but. they did a. very first of all they slaughtered 1500. Israelis and mutilated bodies and raped. women so to them this is a big win right. yeah and it's very it's it's in in. incredible they were able to do that. unbelievable it's unbelievable and is.
there a massive investigation in Israel. now how that Happ look the the milit. everybody woke up the military is like. this it's it's on the offense it's. everybody everybody woke up this was a. very very very very well planned planned. operation I said this from the beginning. I'm like yeah Kamas they they uh they. put a good effort they put a really good. effort good for them but you know who. else put a good effort in destroying the. Jews Germany exactly Nazis also put a. good [ __ ] effort and you know who. else in the Inquisition days they also. put a good effort so every few years.
some evil [ __ ] people try to put a good. effort to exterminate the Jews and it. never in the long-term works but this. was a big thing and also remember this. is Israel and Kamas and the whole region. Kamas is a pawn of Iran and Iran. sacrificed when people say that Israel. funded Hamas what are they talking about. that's [ __ ] Israel funded Hamas it. was like Israel allowed Hamas through. Qatar to get money because they thought. they're going to rule Gaza because there. 2 million people there and Israel is. trying to help them to rule these people.
and honestly anymore it's not the. responsibility of of Israel anymore. Israel might have known just the same. way that we funded the Soviets against. uh I'm sorry we funded Al-Qaeda against. the Soviets is there any part of Israel. thinking when they're allowing Hamas or. or to get money or funding Hamas are. they going like we would rather the. representatives of Palestinians be these. crazy terrorists instead of like. legitimate people it's very look there. were elections and Hamas won right so.
you Israel was given two entities kind. of could you guys unite into one look at. the establishment of Israel there was. the hag the and the there were three. separate kind of entities in the yesu in. the Jewish yesu that were kind of like. militant in their ways and and trying to. build the state in their ways and David. Boran as soon as the state was funded. he's like done with everything enough. with all of this everybody underneath. the IDF everybody underneath one. government One Voice one Jewish people. people because the commitment of the.
Jewish people was always to have a state. it wasn't to destroy anybody else and. hamas's commitment is destroying the. Jews they're not interested is is insane. and we we we know that and they they've. put the entire Arab world now in in. trouble because this is also Iran. sacrificed them basically they are the. the the the you know the Sunni xak had a. he came out and he said listen the. attack is barbaric Israel has a right to. defend himself he goes let me but he. also said there does seem to be a a.
knee-jerk reaction where we can't look. at context and context never justifies. anything right but there's the context. of where this comes from yeah I I. disagree with this vehemently well okay. but I'm saying what's out there what's. out there that's why I'm here I. understand when you talk about context. when you talk about people from rala um. protesting peacefully and and saying. let's build Nos and let's build a. government that's okay because what. they're after is what the Jewish yeshu.
was after which is a state they're after. building something for themselves sure. Kamas is just not interested in that I. don't think Hamas is interested in that. and I I agree with there's no context I. think the context is not it's that. there's 2 million Palestinians that are. not necessarily in Hamas right that's. that's the excuse is the occupation. quote again there's no occupation in. Gaza they this could have been Singapore. Israel has left Gaza but the the. settlements isra sement that are being. built where they're Built Well Goen.
Heights a bunch of places right Goan. Heights is is a is a done deal but the. the the whole idea is that the UN has. been roundly critical of Israeli. settlement you're talking about the West. Bank you're not talking about Gaza. because there no settlements in G by the. way Israel when Israel left Gaza. unilaterally pull out of Gaza in 2005 we. left houses and green houses and farms. and we left everything and you know them. yeah they burned them down cuz when we. hear about Palestinians going high being. evicted from my home I have this deed. that says I've owned this home I'm being.
evicted from it talking about haara. we're talking about all that stuff right. we let's be specific I know what you're. talking about we'll be specific this is. what Israel is criticized for throughout. the world and listen I'd rather live in. Israel it's much nicer is more. Progressive we know that we know the. valers to live in Israel gays women. everybody 86% of Arab Israeli say that. they do not wish to live in a. Palestinian State should one gets. theocracy is ever the the.
of Israeli Palestinians prefer to stay. living in Israel than live in a. Palestinian State one gets the issue of. settlements the issue of the. expansionist nature of the state of. Israel is this something that you get is. there anything that you concede do you. go we've made mistakes or things have. happened that shouldn't have happened. absolutely again you know why because. Israel is the country and countries make. mistakes now when you not America. not Us Again by the way they're trying.
to what they're trying to do all these. like these protest movements right now. that are yelling and screaming about the. occupation they're not talking about. occupation 67 which is the West Bank and. the settlement they're talking about the. whole thing exactly talking they 1948. they're trying to relitigate the war of. 1948 that Israel didn't one didn't start. and won right right after the Holocaust. okay so that's number one in terms of. the settlement when you read my book you. understand exactly where I stand. do I think the settlements are great no.
do I think that they are red herring. [ __ ] yeah because you're talking about. expansionism okay and you still have to. understand that even in the West Bank. which is a disputed State it's still. under military control it never was. annexed by Israel not even under the. right-wing government so everybody's. aware that that is kind of like a limbo. area right 90% of the Palestinians live. under Palestinian rule at the areas A. and B right and in terms of numbers it's. not that expansionism when there are. about 40 450 or 49 5,000 Jews there and. 2.9 Million right Arabs so it's not that.
expansionism it's just that every time. you hear about this deed you kind of go. a deed right and people don't understand. Americans are kind of like what's with. that deed and it's terrible isra are out. of their homes well this is this is if. somebody was living in some a place that. they owned and they had proof of. ownership well do they though I've I've. seen things where they've had Deeds. saying they own the house but even if. they didn't have Deeds the idea that you. can just go and evict somebody from a. house and and make them homeless that is.
seen horrible is seen as a war crime and. a violation of international law it's. 100% horrible but again when you're. talking about Kara specifically is a. land dispute it's a it's an ownership. dispute there are two land disputes. right two groups there that are that are. that are pretty extreme in their. positions and they're trying to Duke it. out and they know that this is going to. cause International uproar and again I'm. not even talking in this conversation. and the conversations that we're having. right now now CU remember there's a war. going on in Israel right now right I'm.
not even talking about who did what and. what the land this has nothing to do. with it this is about people that want. exterminate Jews period for sure I was. just for sure I was just saying that. there is all of this murkiness this has. been unending for a long time as long as. I've grown up we've always heard about. violence in the Middle East two-state. solution getting close never quite. getting why are we never getting there I. would say that it just the deal hasn't. been made made why wasn't it made I.
don't know we got very close right. didn't we get very close with Clinton. under yaser Arafat we got very close. yaser arat was on the plane in order to. sign the deal he received 96% of. everything that he got he landed in DC. and decided to en Camp David and said. I'm not signing so when you look. historically at what happened with. Israelis and P and again I am I come. from a liberal household like a very. Progressive household actually right. right so when you look at the history of. this and you see how many times Israel.
offered a Palestinian State and how many. times it was rejected and you realize. that the Palestinians as a national. movement have practiced rejectionism and. you kind of go well what did they want. then and you go oh well here's the. thing if the Palestinian is a national. movement first of all need to be called. out to be a bit more responsible that's. number one and number two if the. Palestinians would have actually been. interested in a two-state solution I'm.
sure that conversation could have been. had is it a specific piece of land that. they are refusing is the two-state. solution is it just that they don't want. Israel to exist is that the whole I'm. I'm not saying they because it's not. everyone it's a certain SE of people. that if you say from The River To The. Sea Palestine will be free then it means. no Isel that means Exterminating and. ethnically cleansing the Jews from their. ancestral Land from the Jordan River to. the Mediterranean Sea and we saw what. that looks like that looks like it's a. it's a exactly yeah no for for sure.
Israel right now preparing a ground uh. incursion into Gaza potentially Thomas. fredman writer at the New York Times. other people who are traditionally. historically pro-israel feel like it. might be a trap it might be a quagmire. it's similar to Iraq it's qu in the. Middle East very densy populated Urban. Warfare what is the end game there I. mean I think there's something about. eight or 10,000 pal civilians supposedly. have been killed according to the.
ministry there I don't know which I will. take with a grain of salt and I'll hurt. for every child who is uninvolved yes I. there's a ton of innocent Palestinians. who've died just like ton of innocent. Israelis who've died don't argue that um. it's horrible by the way but again the. difference is the intentionality of of. of breaking into people's homes and. slaughtering and mutilating them one I. will agree with you collateral damage of. War which is horrible right but when you. are flattening and leveling whole. section City you are aware you're going. to K civilians I mean this is true.
listen this I'm I'm nobody is for war. right and again Iran by training Kamas. the way that they did and arming them. and paying them and protect you know. creating this entire kind of entity has. basically sacrificed Gaza because this. operation everybody that's involved that. planned and executed that knew the price. that Gaza is going to pay there's no. other choice when Israel say and by the. way when when 911 happened we didn't.
know where the terrorists were I think. and we know where they are now we've. made a lot of mistakes since 911 and I. think there's a lot of Advocates of. Israel that say they wouldn't want. Israel to go down the same path that the. United States went down where we got. into unwinable Wars spent trillions of. dollars we left Gaza for a reason. committed human rights we didn't want to. be in there we like here you go here are. the keys go build yourself a home build. a state any part of this ground uh. offensive concern you in terms of the. objectives and what the reality of it is.
and what would be considered a victory. it concerns me very much also from. personal level um on a personal level. because I know people who will be uh. operating this uh ethereal ground. operation so I'm very personally. invested in it there is no other option. other than to eliminate Kamas there is. just no other op what does that look. like it's a good question we don't know. but I'm sure the United States and. Europe and normal countries will have to. have help the Palestinians make good. choices for themselves too when Israel.
tells the Palestinians leave this area. or evacuate because they don't really. have anywhere to go is that somewhat. disingenuous they do have places to go. Hamas doesn't let them go it's not this. is horrible Tim I'm not here to defend. war in any level no but these are these. are the questions that people are asking. it's not it's not simply uh you know. it's these are the questions that people. are asking and these are questions that. I think uh people are concerned about. they're concerned about does this. increase anti-Semitism throughout the.
world does it make Israel first of all. less safe here's the thing so Israel. gave gazin two days warning okay right. Hamas didn't give Israel two minutes no. Hamas is a. barbaric terrorist organization so we. can't compare the Govern you know we're. trying not to do we don't want to get. into that moral equivalence right right. cuz there is Hamas there is no moral. equivalence there so the sad part about. it I don't know if you've seen there are.
photos of Hamas blocking civilian cars. not letting them evacuate this is not a. good thing but you have you seen the. recent uh reports about the shifa. hospital uh okay so that is the hospital. that we we claimed that in Israeli. Missile hit or no no there there two. stories about the hospital about two. different hospitals Hospital number one. is the air strike that happened last. week um that immediately there was a. push notification on every news magazine. is and 500 people died within a second. so of course we're all like oh my God.
Israel does not [ __ ] bomb hospitals. and then you look back and you realize. it was a misfiled um um Mis launch. rocket of Islamic Jihad that landed in a. parking garage and BBC still has the. tweet that says that Israel did it still. up right that's number one but hang on. the the other thing is um that they just. revealed yesterday that Hamas. headquarters is located underneath the. biggest Hospital in Gaza. 40,000 displaced people are there and.
there's a Hamas terrorist that they. interrogated that speaking all the. visuals are online of saying yeah we we. place our headquarters underneath. Hospitals and Clinics because we know. Israel is not going to bomb there yes. that's what they do but but Israel I I. imagine has had to bomb schools and. hospitals to get never bombed schools. and hospitals never never bombed schools. and hosital inally believe you but I had. Barry Weiss on the show going we have to. bomb schools we have to bomb when. they're clean and clear Israel's never. going to bomb a hospital when there are.
people there right headquarter it's a. big problem it's a big problem and. here's the thing Israel never started a. war right Hamas always broke ceasefires. Israel always had to win a war because. the only one Jewish State like that's. the reality Israel wants peace I know. it's hard for people to understand. because they're like Israel is the big. bad wolf but like I don't think it's. people that saying Israel is a big bad. wolf I think people are looking at the. situ a and going what happened in Israel.
was terrible what happened in on 911 was. terrible the United States after 9911. went out and did a lot of things that. probably made us less safe we went to. the wrong country certainly in the short. term and we went to the wrong place and. hurt our credibility worldwide sure. Guantanamo Bay these underground torture. prisons uh you know not following the. Geneva conventions uh these unilateral. Wars that enriched you know maybe. defense contractors but didn't make sent. a wave of refugees throughout Europe.
destabilized the political situation in. Europe all of that kind of starting. after 911 I think there's a concern that. Israel in its very. understandable uh anger in this. situation could end up doing things that. are. unwise 100% yeah the difference is we. didn't know where the terrorists are. coming from right and here we know. exactly where they're at what is a post. Hamas Gaza look like I hope it's a. flourishing beautiful Singapore ever get.
the feeling that somebody's watching you. like there's somebody else in the room. now I know you're probably thinking oh. it's spooky Halloween time you're just. being paranoid but this is actually real. every single day there's actually. somebody watching your every move the. worst part is you're even paying them to. spy on you that's someone who's your. internet service provider the company. you pay for your internet every website. you visited late at night what are they. trying to say how much time you spent on. each to keeping tabs on you and that's. why I use.
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phone tablet computer so you can use up. to five devices at the same time under. one expressvpn subscription stop letting. people invade your privacy right now get. three extra months of expressvpn for. free when you go to expressvpn.com Jim. Dillan that's expressvpn.com Chim Dillan. expressvpn.com Chim Dillan to learn more. Singapore is lovely because the cane. does work because you need a little. something you do you need a little. something I I hope they turn Palestine. into a flourishing Country Side by Side. safely with Israel Saudi Arabia and.
Israel were about to normalize relations. I mean yeah and that's this was a big. plan for MBS the new Middle East the. birthplace of Islam recognizing Israel's. right to exist do you think that Hamas. chose to act when they did to destroy. that plan yes I think Iran did because. because Iran and Saudi Arabia don't. really get along they don't the sunnis. and Shiites they they're big they're. Arch enemies bigger enemies than Israel. so they're using Hamas so Iran is. basically using Kamas is also Sunni. right right so they're using Kamas.
they're sacrificing Hamas in order to. start a war with Israel so the Sunni. population in Saudi Arabia would be like. whoaa no no no no we don't we don't want. peace with Israel it's very important. this bond between Saudi Arabia Israel. the United States is very important in. order to alienate Iran and Russia and. all the bad actors in the world right. everybody knows yes but I I also believe. China can play a very constructive role. in will they though I believe they could. of course they could but and I I believe. that listen we could say Bad actors and. good actors and I would agree with you. probably on some of those things for.
sure but I also think that we have to in. order to avoid a larger war and more. Bloodshed we have to. enfranchise countries like China uh to. play a productive role hopefully I'm all. for it you know and I think China would. want to my godson is Chinese and. although he has Choice words about. Taiwan he's three but he still I think. can play a constructive role. you living in California you live in a.
multiethnic place I live in a. multi-ethnic place um you come in. contact with people from all over the. world do you have very interesting. discussions debates I mean very. interesting about this t look it's it's. right now because you are now you have. become the focal point of this. campaign as somebody who's an advocate. for Israel in the media yeah and I. imagine that there are people that not.
working for the Israeli government by in. any way or no you're just you're out. there with them don't this is your. Homeland it's what it's who you identify. with you're an Israeli person not just. that it's that Israel is the only. country in the region that's that shares. our values for real it's the only true. Ally that we have over there it's it's. the stabilizing for but America has. backed Saudi Arabia and they have never. shared our values and America's been. very cozy with them so Iran also was. going to be a progressive country before.
the coup that was sponsored by the. British government the American. government and and their intelligence. agen a lot of mistakes were made in the. a lot of mistakes were made so I agree. with you I I think there's a lot of. backwards uh you know countries in the. Middle East that are incredibly. oppressive and unfortunately if you look. back at the history of who propped up. some of those leaders it does lead back. of course let me just say one word about. Saudi Arabia and just with people that I. know that have in there recently NBS is. trying.
1,000% and I people say that it's. palatable on the street that you see a. difference yeah I'm hopeful I'm a big. fan of Saudi Arabia again I live in. Beverly Hills they never had a VX. mandate or a mask mandate I felt like. you know it was you know living in a. place that you know was really cool and. I I'm a big fan of that kind of Persian. aesthetic of being not that you know. Saudis are Persians but like that kind. of very loud all four the Persian. loud I drive at Bentley I have you know.
what I mean I I believe in that that's. the culture I believe in I'm going to. buy Trevor noahas Rolls-Royce hopefully. I believe in their culture I believe in. that culture of not only having it but. showing it dude I drive a Prius I'm like. literally well I mean I mean what are. you what are you producing in treatment. of course you drive a PRI what are you. mentally ill um but so yeah so let me. ask you Hollywood now they got dueling. letters and I no one's asking me to sign. either one I'll get you on the right one.
can someone get me on a letter here I'll. get you on the right one well you got. one group of celebrities going hey. ceasefire you got one group of. celebrities going hey release the. hostages release the hostages let's talk. about the hostages I agree with you. let's do it there now we know over. 230 men women children there are. 30 children under the age of 16. including a 9 months old a four years. old a 12 years old 16 years old they. were taken from their homes taken from.
their parents their parents shot in. front of their faces and taken into Gaza. this is this is It's unheard of and. Kamas needs to release them immediately. now there's there is a a letter that was. signed by the biggest names in Hollywood. like Katy Perry and Justin timlake and. Madonna and and and Orlando Bloom and. grenth ptro and Chris Rock and a lot. people galgadot and Amy Schumer and a. lot of people Jarry Seinfeld and yes uh.
Tiffany hadish hadish and I can continue. Onish Hades I know I love this Tiffany. hadish hadish she's appar she's. Jewish um signed calling on the release. of the. hostages we purposefully did not call. for a ceasefire because you cannot. expect Israel 3 weeks after the greatest. Slaughter of Jewish people since the. Holocaust to all of a sudden go oh no no.
no no no stop stop now right right you. cannot call for it calling for it it's. like literally when America went after. Isis we all agree that the world is a. safer place because Isis isn't in power. anymore right Isis isn't taking over. like hospitals and schools in in various. places around the Arab world right not. not slaughtering beheading right. journalists right but nobody was. standing with the stopwatch with America. and going when are you done okay. ceasefire now nobody that's understood. so no calling for a ceasefire Israel.
needs to be able to do whatever the [ __ ]. it needs to do in order fire I think. solve this I think what the ceasefire is. yeah is people looking at what could. what what they consider humanitarian. catastrophe and no a lot of the people. that were on that letter yeah well they. have no idea they publicist is going not. just that a lot of the people on that. letter have a they have an idea and. those are people that we know their. names and they sign on to every. anti-israel [ __ ] that's out there okay. so we like oh of course he's on it oh of.
course he's on it yeah of course like we. know all these people are it's not in. like naming names it's just that I've. been in the in this work for a long time. and I'm kind of like yeah Mark Ruffalo. is always gonna [ __ ] be on the wrong. side of History here always because he. doesn't literally doesn't understand the. region well so but can't and I don't. know Mark Ruffo at all and I'm sure I. disagree with him on a lot of things I'm. sure I would um you know can't like I'm. not naming names but Mark Ruff I don't. know if he signed on that letter but he. sure is there space for someone to go I.
believe Israel has a right to defend. itself um and I believe Israel has a. right to exist but I feel like the. military operation in. Gaza will get to a point where casualty. numbers will reach such a level that it. will not only hurt the ultimate cause. because it will start turning Western. countries against Israel because they'll. go there are so many casualties now and. such a humanitarian situation and.
refugees pouring into other countries is. there a room for that person who goes. I'm I'm C I'm cautious about the course. of action that Israel I'm cautious about. the the course of action I'm the one. that wants a humanitarian Aid and not. like people that aren't hurt to not get. hurt more I'm the one who wants them to. evacuate have you seen what they doing. with the water pipes they're making. missiles thank you right but they're. pulling the water I'm saying stuff and. people are going to think that I'm crazy.
but just look it up you knew this Tim. just knew this they they pull out the. water pipes from the from the ground the. water pipes that's supposed to bring. water to their people and they turn them. into Rockets right but the two Mill the. two million civilians that are being. deprived of water that is a huge. sticking point for critics of Israel. going the electricity the internet the. water absolutely why didn't they build. their own water system by the way or. their own po do I know the I don't know. I know why they didn't build their own. now is a disaster I'm trying to figure.
out zic I don't know why I don't even. understand that my friends looks better. but now like a a little bit of an old. witch here's what I'm saying when you. when there is this is this is again this. is again a war that Israel didn't want. this is again a war that Israel didn't. want it's and it's it's it's just it's. just I think the people that are. concerned are concerned about the. civilians and the way that they should. be concerned about the hostages I said. if you're calling for a ceasefire you.
should also be calling for the release. of all hostages all of them every single. one of them 100% we a dog tag if you. want it it says bring them home now I. 100% agree with I don't really wear. jewelry but I agree with the sentiment. but I 110% think all hostages should be. released absolutely it's it's just. heartbreaking and they're doing the. psychological war and which they. releasing two here and one there and. it's a [ __ ] disaster it really is and. everybody needs to call for that is. Benjamin Netanyahu um has this hurt him.
politically has this helped him is this. is this neutral well it certainly didn't. help him he's the he's the man in charge. I the bottom line is this I don't I. don't think it's the time to talk. politics right now right if you uh read. between the lines of my work in the past. 20 years you know exactly what I think. what where my policies are more or less. uh it's not the time uh he is in charge. and was in charge for the last 15 or so. years yeah so it's always the. responsibility of the CEO at the end of. the day but it's not the time right now.
to discuss this and I'm sure these. conversation are to be had after Israel. gets it people that say that Israel. doesn't have a right to exist are not in. my mind serious people but I do know. that there's a lot of them watch the. comments that you're going to be getting. oh I'll get a lot you're going to get so. much hidden you're going to get so much. free Palestine isra next week we have. heala is coming fabulous. that's great no but I I I I will say. listen my next guest right my.
my Straight from Doha right now what. about Qatar that's interesting you know. Qatar is this kind of you know somewhat. westernized country that's like going. give us a World Cup do this do that and. Hamas is living there in the Four. Seasons so I prefer um uh hania isma. hania and and uh and uh Khaled Masha. living in Doha than living in tan. honestly okay because there's somewhat. prob of couple of other eyes on them. there rather than in tan they'll just be.
lost in [ __ ] nose where right um I think. that qatar's role is going to be very. interesting obviously Qatar has been. extremely involved in releasing the four. hostages that were released up until now. and I can only say that I hope they play. an even bigger role I hope that the. brutality of this attack shocked a lot. of people in the Arab world as well I. know that to be um to be the case. because I see the reports and I hope.
this realigns the region in a way that's. uh prosperous and better for the. citizens of the region and Qatar has a. big role to play here what is the. solution do you think and I mean this is. asking you to maybe predict the future. but how do we move towards a situation. in Israel with the Palestinians where we. can yeah I would like some responsible. Palestinian leadership because the. Palestinian leadership as a national. movement need to figure out what it is. is that they want and what it is that. they're after they need to unite is mmud.
Abbas still involved mmud Abbas is. involved he's the head of the PA he's. completing a 16-year term of a four-year. term of sentence no of of being in power. right there's been no elections yeah you. know so he's elected for fouryear term. and is completing his 16th year um but. he he is the more moderate and he I mean. other than being a holocaust Den every. now and then and saying something stupid. about the Holocaust they the pales Ian. people as a national movement so what. does he say about the hog it didn't.
happen yeah yeah it's a whole thing he. had a thesis about the it was a whole. thing okay but they need to figure out. what it is that they want and I would. like to see the American left and. American progressives instead of. engaging in stupid virtue signaling on. online stupid virtue signaling activism. and bashing Israel how about holding the. Palestinians accountable too because. they think that I'm such a great so. social justice Warrior and I go Israel's. terrible well yeah they don't care about.
social justice they seem to care about. power uh you know women are being raped. you're not hearing about that you know. you're not hearing about the heinous. crimes that Hamas committed care about. power bab cutting babies heads is not as. bad as cutting gaza's internet like. people are up in arms about the internet. being cut up I'm like there were babies. that were being cut in half right I. think I think what people are saying is. if you cut off water and you cut off. electricity and you cut off Internet you. you have a situation where you're going.
to have you know I understand tens of. thousands of people die it's horrific. but you have to understand Israel is not. responsible for the citizens of Gaza. Hamas is responsible for the citizens of. Gaza right but Israel is taking certain. steps to I don't know exactly where. we're at right now Israel is always. trying to have as little amount of. casualties as possible and Hamas is. trying to have as many of them as. possible I understand that people might. look at it and think of me as mouthpiece. of the Israeli government look me up and. know that it's not the case but I'm just.
saying there's there's right or wrong in. the world and Israel and the Jewish. people have a right for a tiny State. What in in closing and I do appreciate. you kind of coming on and laying this. out because I do think that there's a. lot of people that don't have a full. understanding of you know what's going. on and they're just hearing snatches. from this part one especially when. social media is flooded number one. because we're again. 0.18% or zero less than seems to a lot.
of people that think about Gaza and they. go these people are living in a Hell yep. and there are Israeli guards on the you. know on standing there with guns yeah uh. there have been instances of of of young. Palestinians being killed you know why. they're guards because again I'm going. to say this again because that's. historical like that's what happened in. 2005 Israel unilaterally pulled out of. Gaza handed the keys over to the. Palestinians Hamas took over Gaza and a. kudatah killed the Palestinians people.
pal literally threw them off the. rooftops and dragg like tied them into. the cars and drove them through the. streets took over Gaza killed the. Palestinian Authority people and. basically he's been holding gazan. prisoners ever since so free Gaza indeed. free Gaza from Hamas it's a terrorist. organization it's the Taliban it's as if. you're saying I'm I support Afghan. people then I support the Taliban right. like those organization those groups. those m are critical of you know outside.
of the people that are just openly. anti-semitic there are a lot of them. there's elected leaders in America that. are openly anti-semitic right true that. um and anti everybody anti-white men. anti- this anti- that anti everything. and they're they're very vocal about it. everything is you know um but there are. people that are well it's true it is I'm. just laughing because you find you know. today with how Communications work you. find the same people that when when. people have been saying hey theologist. are getting a little crazy a lot of the.
Liberals that are now calling that out. had ignored it for years said everybody. was uh overstating it everybody has the. right for their. opinion right to speak and I'm like yeah. but they're not speaking they're calling. for a massacre there are people that are. genuinely anti-semitic there are people. that say there is not not a. justification for the attack but there. is a context with we with what we can. put all of these things into it's an. excuse It's not context please Hamas is.
not looking Hamas is not looking it's. not Hamas per se it's that you have this. thing if I could think of a place to. grow terrorists it would be Gaza if I. could design a place where terrorists. would become terrorists it would be a. place like Gaza is that not true right. that's because they took over by force. literally they have been controlling. that place they're not they're not even. interested in the lives of Palestinian. people I don't know what's hard to. understand here no they're just they're. just not for sure but but the fact that.
they are occupying this small sliver of. pal way that's a good way that's the way. to put it Hamas is occupying Gaza Israel. is not occupying Gaza right but Israel. is enforcing the the the blade and. preventing a lot of things from getting. into Gaza and has for a long time and. Egypt as well because they're terrorists. that so the bade that Israel put on on. Gaza um periodically is always put on by. Egypt as well so but nobody talks about. that that there was a blockade of both.
these countries one Arab one Jewish kind. of going Kamas is [ __ ] and we need to. contain them and we can't let them just. get cement because they're building. tunnels we can't just let them get uh. gasoline because they're stockpiling it. and we the the they're they're taking. the [ __ ] from their people in order to. fire isn't it isn't it curious for. people that Hamas is literally that Gaza. is running out of everything except. Rockets well they keep throwing they. there was an attack on Tel Aviv today EV. this is the other thing that you have to. understand the war didn't just this.
thing didn't just happen on October 7th. and ended it wasn't one day there were. eight terrorists that were caught. yesterday trying to get in through the. ocean there were four that were trying. to get through the North and there are. rockets that are being launched at. Israel all the time you also have hezb. Lebanon as well yes still today I'm. talking to my sister and she's like oh. [ __ ] siren I'm on I'm like oh my God. she's in Tel Aviv so this is ongoing. they haven't stopped right but people. are going to see Israel no no no no no. Israel ceasefire stop Israel please stop.
and by now we're like we can't listen to. what Israel can do no right okay people. are always going to have problem with it. and by now it's like we just better. [ __ ] do what we need to do. because they're gonna say [ __ ] anyways. I'm just hoping that this uh has a as an. end game and a and a you know what I. mean because I I'm speaking from. experience of being a citizen of a. country that went on a very long uh you. know very convoluted uh path after 911.
and it we ended up spending a lot of. money I I don't think we made anyone. safer after 911 I was like you know. young and all that but as an Israeli I. was watching the US going into Iraq and. I'm like the [ __ ] are you doing it's. Iran like we knew that Iran is the. destabilizing um entity in the region. you look back at every [ __ ] that's. happening in the world every terrorist. every everything it's all It All Leads. back to Iran how did the Mad miss the. this attack oh God nobody knows there's.
there. was one of the best intelligence. agencies in the world there was so mad. isn't external though mad is not. technically look there were so many the. CIA is technically external we all know. it's technically everything's external. there was how did the Americans miss it. how did everybody miss this it was there. was a major meltdown I'm I don't know if. the Americans have have the human. Intelligence on the ground that mad does. we have great satellites. we know now we're we're starting become. we we're starting to kind of break down.
backwards the moves that they did and um. they were look again really good effort. good effort Kamas you're not winning. this one either but good effort right. listen we don't nobody I don't think. nobody wants a moss to win except. AOC she does but um no did you see my. face how I didn't move yeah of course. tryan Omar see what my face does or she. I mean listen they don't they don't seem. to love the Jews I mean that's just what. it is you know I mean that doesn't but.
she also Al she you got to respect the. ones that come right out and say it AOC. like pretended to be Jewish once which I. don't have a respect for she was like. I'm like started [ __ ] it up I did a. thing about it years ago I just come out. and say what you believe that's what I. respect about you I respect that about. what Schumer's doing again I'm a Long. Island guy Catholic didn't grow up with. this around the dinner table this was. not discussed we heard about it right. but we we didn't have an intimate. involvement I had friends that went on. Birthright I have friends that are more.
well versed in it um I know there's a. lot of Muslim comedians that are talking. about it I know that there's a lot of. Jewish comedians that are talking about. I know that it's split a lot of people. and it's been a very contentious thing. if you. support democracy freedom of speech. human rights women's rights lgbtq plus. rights any kind of rights that we hold. de and you do not support Israel within. the context of the Middle East you're a. [ __ ] idiot I think you should support. Israel Within the context of the Middle. East but I also think you should support. the idea that we need to eventually you.
know bring an end to the suffering and. the in the death of innocent people and. we need to somehow figure out some type. of self-determination for Palestinians. and a life and a life for them outside. of Gaza which is a a training camp that. grows extremism and terrorism I. pro-israeli and also Pro Palestinian and. the these two things are not mutually. exclusive it's only on the American uh. fringes that it's presented as mutually. exclusive by the way almost all of these.
towns in kibuts on the on the south and. the party the Nova party the slaughter. at the party all these people are peace. activists pacifist left-wing there was. an old lady that was in charge of flying. kites every you know there I was on the. 7th of October at 4m. they had this. thing that they all got together and. flew kites into Gaza to show them how. much they love them like all these. people are like the lefties and they're. now hostages and were slaughtered in. Gaza so I'm all for that again. Palestinian people need to be a little.
bit more responsible and acknowledge. that Israel's there and Israel is there. to stay and stop trying to slaughter the. Jews because it ain't going to work all. right well Noah Tish B where can people. follow you and get your get this uh. information all social medias and my. best one biggest one is uh the one that. I'm most active on is is Instagram at. NOA tishby and my book is available. wherever okay hopefully we uh we'll be. back on Instagram we were we were we. suspended temporarily for doing video. saying that Pizza Hut supported. Hamas no it well it was just we do wait.
no I'm not a big pizza fan anyways but. write them down get that put Pizza Hut. on the list thank you everyone for. listening thank you for coming thank you. so much for having me appreciate of. course thank you.
