#283 - Joe Rogan | The Tim Dillon Show

Joe Rogan, thank you for coming. Your first podcast. My pleasure, Tim Dillon. Thank you for. having me. I like the way you do this. We come to. your studio. It's easy. We sit here. We do it. Jamie has to work. extra. He's not happy about it. But. that's okay. That's all right. Thank you. for letting me do We wanted to follow up. Lex Friedman with somebody bigger. And. that person is you. And then And. it's it's I want to ask you cuz it's. been. you know, we were just talking about the.

Hamptons and how crazy people go when. they have an insane amount of money. Yeah. You've done very well in the last. forever, but in the last year. Yeah. Do you Is it weird as a comic the types. of people that you can be around now? Or. It's weird. I'll get like messages from. celebrities, like random celebrities, usually about COVID advice. Right. Like. I get no [ __ ] I've have like. dozens of people. Yeah. that I've never brought their names up, like famous actors, Right. musicians, they just contact me for.

COVID advice. Interesting. Yeah, it's that's weird. But it's also. weird that they can just they know I. know them and I'm famous, too. So. like I've reached this weird spot where. I like I feel comfortable meeting famous. people. Like, "Hi, fellow famous. person.". Right. Whereas I was plagued by impostor. syndrome like for forever. Like and I'd. get real weird around actual. celebrities. I'm like, "Ah, I got to run. to the store. I got to run with the. freaks." You know. But now you're cool with it.

It's It's more I'm just more accustomed. to it, I guess, but the the money thing. and the celebrity thing and all that. stuff, it is odd. And it's not good for. a comedian. Comedians are best off. known, but not too famous. Right. Because you get too famous and then you. get scrutiny from people who aren't even. really fans. And they start picking. apart your material or looking for, you. know, where you've erred on the PC side. and you know, and where you're not woke. or where this. What do you think that is with comics.

where if they get too much money or if. they're. they get too big, a lot of them lose. their minds, a lot of them have real big. problems. Well, famous people lose their mind. Right. It's just a a totally unnatural state of. existence. Right. Where everywhere you go people know you. and they're all happy to see you. Right. And then you also surround yourself with. a bunch of people that don't tell you. the truth. That's that's pretty common. Right. And you got to find a way to mitigate. that or you'll go insane. You have to. have something you do that's like an.

absolute thing, whether it's a workout. thing or you play chess or you [ __ ]. you know, whatever it is. You have to. have something that you do that's really. difficult. Yeah. That doesn't give a [ __ ] if you're. famous. Right. If you don't have like. I look at it literally like um. like it's a. exercise for maintaining sanity. Like. this you have to brush your teeth, you. have to go work out. Right. But it's not just you work out to be. healthy, it's also work out because it's. so hard to do. Right. that everything else seems easier.

Right. Over the last year you've kind of become. Is this the most heat you've ever taken. for the position? Over the like. From the COVID and about the vaccine and. stuff like that. Is there cuz I know. that. uh the trans MMA thing was big, but it. didn't feel this big. Well, the trans MMA thing was big, but. it wasn't it wasn't valid. It was people. that don't want any criticism whatsoever. about trans people. I was like, "Look, I. don't have a problem with trans people. I have a problem with someone pretending.

that they're a biological woman and. fighting women." Once you say you're. trans and everybody says, "Okay, I'll. fight her.". Fine. I'm fine with that. And in fact, MMA is one of the best places for that. because you know exactly who your. opponent is. Unlike like this swimmer, was it U Penn? Is that what it is? I don't know. Whatever the swimmer is, it's like. lapping all these biological. Right. That's [ __ ]. Right. Because they don't have a choice. They have to compete against. fighting is you're you're you're more of. an expert in fighting than many things,

right? This is you put your knowledge of. fighting up there. And the knowledge of. advantages that a biological male has. over a female. The advantages are giant and I don't. think they go away. Right. in two years of, you know, hormone. treatments and surgery. Right. It's uh it's too much of an advantage. But if a woman is a biological woman who. wants to compete against a trans woman. I have zero problem with that. And there. was a situation like that recently. Right. I had no comment about it. Right. It's basically some regional level uh. fighters and one was trans and she was.

uh former like Navy SEAL, like [ __ ]. super jacked dude. Right. He used to look like. Right. like a savage. Yeah. And then became a woman and fought MMA. and but apparently was a good fight, too. She almost lost in the first round, won in the second round. I don't care. Right. My my issue is not it's not an. anti-trans position. It's like. can't pretend that that's fair. That you. don't tell someone that you were a. biological male for 30 [ __ ] years. So. 30 [ __ ] years of having testosterone.

pulsing through your system and. strengthening your tendons and your. muscles and changing the way your mind. works. It's it's a different mind. Yeah. Absolutely. That's So that was a lot of. That was a big one. But it was more like I realized that. people will distort your perceptions on. things or your positions on things. This. is different. This is like the. government gets mad at me. Right. Like this is crazy. This is the most CNN. lies about me. I think I've ever seen a private. individual take outside of like somebody.

who's leaking secrets or something, right? I mean, this is a pretty Now, obviously you're you're you're fine. They're not, you know, they're not. disappearing you, right? But in terms of. just criticism. uh you know, you know, Fauci and the you. know, people have addressed you. personally. you know like the media has. kind of gone after you personally. Does it Does it affect you. at all being in the midst of this. shitstorm. on the level you're in it, which is.

pretty you're pretty central. Well, it has to affect you because. you're aware of it. If you're aware of. it, it has a an effect on you. The. question is do you change the way you. operate? Like do I decide that now I'm. going to play it safe and I'm going to. just have podcasts with athletes or. comedians just talk about silly things. I could do that. I could just decide to. bail out of it or I could just do. exactly what I want to do and do exactly. what got me here in the first place. So. that's what I do.

I'm I'm aware of it, but I'm like. Right. It's I know what's going on, too. You. know, what's going on is one of the. reasons why they go after me is that. they realize I have a lot of influence. Another reason why is because they need. a boogeyman. Like the mainstream media. needs a Trump. They need a someone. They. need because. on their own, the problem is you it's a. lot of it is editorial opinion pieces by. morons. Like they're really dull-minded. folks. Well, the reason why they got there in.

the first place is not because they're. these courageous pioneering thinkers who. have like compassionate intelligent. views in the world. No, they they they. have followed narratives. They read. teleprompters and they say things that. align with whatever the ideology is of. their network. So that's what they do. Do you ever Do you have people that. disagree with you on this issue that and. I'm sure you do that you respect that. you go Sam Harris somebody like that. Like people that go I feel. you cuz it's a big issue and it's like a.

life or death thing. It's an important issue. People have. very strong feelings about it. Do you like obviously there's a lot of. disingenuous people in in media that are. doing it for clicks, but do you have. people in your own life who this is kind. of I don't want to say a rift, but like. have you fallen out with people over it, or have you Okay, yeah. Yeah, yeah, definitely. Yeah, it's um. it's controversial, but at this point, particularly when I see the way the. government's behaving, um the.

suppression of monoclonal antibodies, the demonizing of um generic treatments. that are available, whether it's. hydroxychloroquine or ivermectin, there's there's a concerted effort to. demonize treatments that many many many. doctors are using and many countries are. using. There's [ __ ] going on, man. And there's and there's brought to you. by Pfizer. Right. Yeah. the root of this [ __ ] Yeah. And so, I'm pretty confident in what I'm. saying. Right. saying that you shouldn't.

get vaccinated. I'm not saying that. vaccines don't have a positive benefit. for a lot of people. They most certainly. do. A lot of people got COVID who were. vaccinated, it was way better for them. than not being vaccinated. That's a. fact. Right. Another fact is there's. treatments that are available that could. stop it dead in its tracks, particularly. monoclonal antibodies. The the Biden. administration is doing their very. [ __ ] best to make it really hard to. get monoclonal antibodies. And according. to Peter McCullough, Dr. Peter. McCullough, who's the most published. physician in history in his field, the.

most published ever. Right. Rock solid. physician without ever having any. controversy in his career up until. COVID. He says there's enough monoclonal. antibodies for the entire country. He's. like, "They're doing their best to try. to prevent this, because if you get that. monoclonal antibodies, it stops COVID. dead in its tracks." So, why wouldn't I. Early treatment monoclonal antibodies. knocks it It did it with you. It did it. with me. Right. And So, then why not go. that route? Now, I know Pfizer's making. a lot of money. want to vaccinate. people. They want universal vaccination.

Yeah. You could say there's all sorts of like. sinister motives for that. You know, you. could say they don't want a control. group. They want the entire country. vaccinated. So, if health problems. happen, there's no one to compare it to. There's like There's a lot of things. that you could say. There's You could. say that this is just a gigantic money. grab. That they have some sort of a very. close relationship with the. pharmaceutical companies that. manufacture the the vaccines. I don't. know what the [ __ ] it is. But, I do know. that there are treatments. And in a sane.

world, you would be pursuing all these. treatments. They wouldn't just send you. home and say they can't they can't give. you Ivermectin. They can't give you. anything else. They just come back when. your pulse your blood oxygen level drops. below 92. That's not normal. That's not. normal with any other disease. When they. have off-label treatments that are. available, that people are using, and. there are randomized control trials that. show that they work. I don't know if. they [ __ ] work or not. I'm a [ __ ]. All right? I'm not a doctor. I'm not a. epidemiologist. I'm not a virologist. But, the ones that I've talked to that.

are, that have treated thousands of. people, they tell you time and time. again that these are effective methods. They point to Uttar Pradesh, India, that's knocked it out using entirely. this combination of Ivermectin and a few. other off-label drugs. They point to all. these different countries all around the. world that have experienced very low. rates of COVID. And they say, "Why does. Japan use Ivermectin? Why do all these. other countries use it? Why is CNN. pretending. veterinary medication when more people. have taken Ivermectin than there are.

horses on planet Earth?" It's [ __ ]. nuts. media has clearly. attacked you using a playbook that has. only made them look. uh. very disingenuous. And you've, I think, more people's eyes have been opened by. the media lying about things you've said. or. um misrepresenting. uh Ivermectin as horse medication, things like that. In terms of I think. one of the criticisms people have had is.

they've said like, "Why not bring on people that are more. pro-vax? So you put on. certainly have. Sanjay Gupta. Well, I had him on. I had Rhonda Patrick. on. I had a conversation with her about. it in the early days of the the podcast. I had um uh Michael Osterholm who is. he's a infectious disease expert. I had. Peter Hotez who's a vaccine expert. I. had quite a few of them on. The the thing is like over time I've. noticed that the mainstream narrative is. being guided in a way where everybody.

steps in line or people are ignoring all. these other things that we talked about. They're ignoring the suppression of. monoclonal antibodies. They're ignoring. the suppression of treatments. There's a. lot of [ __ ] going on. of those dudes reached out to like come. back on again or have they like. Osterholm or people like that? Is it. weird? Because also people bring up this whole. thing that you have where you go listen. I'm not anti-vax, right? You have a. whole thing where you talk about like uh. that a lot of people that are against. all vaccinations are are historically.

you know, they you know, they've been. proven wrong. Like we've stamped out a. lot of diseases. What what about like. the cuz I would wonder because. This isn't a vaccine. Right. No, no, no, for sure. therapy. That's part of the problem. It's it's it's kind of an experimental. thing. Yeah. I mean, the experiment is massive now. It's billions and billions of people. worldwide. Right. But it's essentially experimental in. terms of the long-term health. consequences for all these. Well, so I wonder about guys like cuz. there there there's cuz they don't seem. like bad people. Osterholm or guys like. that, right? They seem. never been bad people.

been bad people. And are they just. looking at well, all these people a lot. of them are faring better. with the vaccine if they get COVID, so. they're not looking at the other adverse. effects? There's there's a bunch of things you. could say. I mean, it's a lot of it's. speculation. But again, there's a lot of. people that benefit from being. vaccinated. That's a fact. There's also. people that have horrible reactions to. the vaccine. That's a fact, too. Like. there's a lot going on and when you're. only allowed to look at one group of.

of one, you know, example of evidence. and not another example. Like one a. positive example versus a negative. example. Yeah. That's not good for anybody. No, it's not. sucks for me that I'm stuck in this. weird position where I have to talk. about it. position as a comedian, MMA commentator, podcaster, but you the show has become. such a massive, I mean, they put out. numbers the other day. I mean, you're. the leading media. figure. Right now. Dumb is that. Well, it's not. know, that's how you know this world is. [ __ ]. I was so mad that you were and I called.

my producer and I fired him. I had to. rehire him cuz I couldn't find anyone. else, but I was so angry because I don't. have guests and that's what a real media. person should do. I have no interest in. anyone's opinion. Just like my mother who's a. schizophrenic, she never had to have. anyone over to have a good time and. that's the way I do, but you now have a. crazy amount of people listening. Do you. feel cuz people try to guilt you. People. try to go, "Somebody didn't get. vaccinated and they died of COVID." And. they try to go, "That's Joe Rogan's. fault.". This is what people say.

Well, is that what they say? Well, that's what they say. I mean, this. is their whole thing, right? Um. This is what I would say. Why didn't the. doctors give them treatment? Right. Why didn't the doctors give them. monoclonal antibodies? Why were they. denied monoclonal antibodies? Did they. request them? Did they know about them? Right. You know, why didn't they get IV vitamin. drip infusions? Why didn't they get NAD? Is that available? Yeah. Isn't that available? That seems like. especially IV vitamin drips. Like that. that shit's very available. We know that. high-level vitamin drips, whether it's. with especially with C, D, zinc,

glutathione, all these things are like. hugely beneficial to any kind of disease. people have. I've got them. I've got them like as a just a health. remedy for the last few years and every. time I do it it feels [ __ ] great. And you know people personally that have. had problems with the vaccine. quite a few now. Yeah. Now I know over 15 people that have had. like serious side effects of the. vaccine. Yeah, both men and women. menstrual issues, strokes. strokes, neurological disorders, chronic. fatigue. what's a neurological Just out of.

curiosity, your whole body shaking? Jesus. Yeah. And you can't do anything about. it? Yeah. Like weird ones, man. There's And. it's The thing is when you're. vaccinating, this to be fair, you're. vaccinating hundreds of millions of. people in this country alone, you're. going to get adverse side effects on any. medication. Right. The thing is if you look at only that. Like if you vaccinate a hundred million. people, they they think that the adverse. side effects and they don't really know. because the VAERS report, it's kind of. it's it's very underreported and it's. also it's hard to see whether or not the.

it's 100% accurate. I don't know how. much they investigate each individual. one. But. if you they they seem to think that at a. low number, like a conservative number, it's like one per 1,000. So, if you. vaccinate a million people, you're going. to have a lot of people that have. adverse side effects. You vaccinate a. hundred people, you're going to have a. lot. So, this is what we're dealing. with. Yeah. And that doesn't get any play. It doesn't They suppress it. There was a. kid on TikTok that had myocarditis and.

he was a high school kid, like an. athlete. He was in the hospital and it. got millions and millions of plays. They. removed it from TikTok cuz it doesn't. fit the narrative. Like that's what's. [ __ ]. That See, that's a really an indication. of a much larger problem. Yes. The problem is they think they're. doing good. They. the 13-year-old got it and died a day. later. a few. There's a few kids that unfortunately, you know, have passed away. Yes. I have a friend and one of his good. friend's daughter got it. She was 14.

years old and just immediately. respiratory failure. They put her in the. ICU. She's [ __ ] You know, there was. one of the girls in the trials that was. 13 years old. It's confined to a. wheelchair for the rest of her life. And. And you can't sue? Not that suing would. matter when it's your child. can't. That's part of what's going on, the emergency use authorization. It. exempts them from any And you're talking. about these companies that have always. historically lied about adverse side. effects in order to make profit. They've. done it with Vioxx. They've done it with. a bunch other drugs in the past.

Pfizer's like one of the most fined. companies ever. vaccine, Sputnik, is actually the best vaccine. to be very good. It's actually the best vaccine. It's. crazy. And there's another one from. Cuba. It's supposed to be very good, too. Yeah. Yeah, the Cuban one is supposed to. be actually. Lex Friedman is an You know Lex is an. agent of Russia. He works for Russia. does. And he's here in America now. he's related to Putin. Yeah, he's certain He's his son. Lex Friedman is the son of Putin and. Ghislaine Maxwell. name's Damian. Keep it on the.

Keep it on the low. But he was talking. about Sputnik, and I researched Sputnik, and Sputnik is actually good. Yeah. Could you, instead of with the. Ivermectin, just pitch Sputnik? Well, I think. they're going. the people that are angry at you, and. you go, "All right, I'm I'll give you. the vaccine. Just. Get the Russian one. It's the best one. Get the Cuban one. Um. What's the Cuban one called? Do we know? know. It's a good question. Can you check that. one that's coming out, apparently, that. is. uh it's an inert version of the virus, like an old-school vaccine.

So, that's what you want. Well, I don't know, man. I mean, is that. good? Is that good to get? I don't know. Well, here's the thing, man. What about. treatments? Like. What about these [ __ ] treatments? How. good is this Pfizer pill that's coming. out? How good is the Merck pill that's. coming out? Maybe that's the way to go. Great. Maybe a good thing to do is get the. natural antibodies from an infection if. they have a really effective treatment. And also, you're right about this, you. can't have the body positivity [ __ ]. No. where you tell people you can be fat, and that it's great for you. You. shouldn't demonize fat people, but you.

should also be very honest with them. about you're making a choice. Just like. when you become a comedian, you're. making a choice. It may not work. Statistically, it won't, but you can. try, and good luck, right? It's like you. become an actor, an artist, whatever. Being fat is kind of similar to that. where it's like it's probably not going. to work. Long term. It's even worse with COVID apparently. because there's something about COVID. that targets fat. It does. Yeah, and there's they've shown. significant numbers of people that are.

in the ICU that are overweight. It's. It's one of the worst things you. in the beginning they weren't as honest. with that. Right. as they are now. Well, that's the thing. It's like. there's things that upset people and so. because they know those things upset. people they decide not to talk about it. Right. And you know, body shaming is one. of those things. Right. But it's it's it's it's true that. you have a much higher risk. Yeah, it's true. uh of having adverse reaction to COVID, hospitalization, death if you're a fatty.

boom batty. Yeah, I think if we're really lucky. these Merck pills or the Pfizer pills. are excellent. And then also this. Omicron, you know, I've heard I have a. friend who's a biologist who's talking. to me about this. He goes, "Essentially. what this is is a live vaccine. It's a. vaccine that's burning through the. population. It's not He's saying He's. saying it's not good to get it. I'm not. saying it's good to get it. What I'm. saying is it's a respiratory virus and. it's almost inevitable that people are. going to get it because of the. infectious rate of it. It's super. infectious.". Right.

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They hide it. They have fake vaccine. cards. We've been told this by. everybody. No, no, no, no, no. A lot of Hollywood actors are not doing. it because, you know, they're younger, a. lot of them they're healthier, they have. access to really good treatment, this. that and the other thing. Um they don't. trust the narrative, whatever. They're. just not. And you know, outwardly. they're not talking about it, right? Like think of how many Hollywood. celebrities were went hard for Black. Lives Matter. Now think about how many of them went. hard for the vaccine. Not a lot. There's.

just not a lot of Hollywood people. went hard. He went hard, but that's his job. Is it? Well, he's Yeah, he's a puppet. I mean, that's like literally the marionette. Puppety thing I think I've ever seen. Well, he's a guy that took the 25. million a year, which I get. If somebody pays me 25 million dollars a. year. what they give him to host that show? him a lot of money. And he And he was getting no ratings, and then Trump came in and he goes, "I. will" My aunt loves Stephen Colbert. You. know, she's she's in her 60s or late.

50s. She has three or four autoimmune. disorders. She's self-diagnosed. She. drinks white zinfandel, and she sits in. her chair. She has a loveless marriage, and she stares at the TV, and Stephen. Colbert comes on and he goes, "Trump's. evil, and the Republicans are evil." And. she cheers and smacks her seal-like paws. together, and this is how she's going to. spend the rest of her life. And I have another aunt that does the. same thing, but she's a QAnon [ __ ]. and she watches Laura Ingraham, and and. her husband and her are like, you know,

it's a loveless, you know, marriage, and. she just sits in her chair drinking wine. watching Laura Ingraham and Tucker. Carlson. So, people at a certain age, I. think when they've given up on. everything else in life, they get very. political. Yeah, that does happen. It also gives. them meaning. Gives them something to do. Well, they they watch their tribe go to. war. It's like, well, people are into. football teams. You know, [ __ ] go. Buccaneers! Right, right. It's crazy. They paint. their chests.

They go insane. It's their team. And if their team. loses, they get devastated. Do you, as a highly productive person, look at people like that and go, "They're just lower life forms." Cuz I'm. not even nearly as productive as you, and I look at them like that. And I I do. a hundredth of maybe a thousandth of. what you do. And I look at them and I. go, "They're like zombies.". Yeah. Their bodies and minds have been taken. over. Well, they got It's a trap. Right. It's like if you You ever watch people. play three-card monte in New York? Yes. And you go, "Oh, you [ __ ] dummy.

Like, you're going to get sucked into. that." Like, you'll get sucked into all. these things. You know, it's what I say. about like if you get really invested in. politics. Like, bro Voting for president. is probably a lot like rooting on pro. wrestling. That's right. make you feel better, but I don't know. how much it really affects the outcome. Yeah. And they're trying to pull that back as. much as possible now. I mean, if you look at Biden, who's. clearly. you know, this act didn't get passed. Even the Democrats are going, "This guy. is out of it." Even people that voted.

for him are going, "Hey, something's. wrong.". It It's clear to see that the the will. of the people gets subverted a lot in in. many different ways. And the people who. end up running the show are not. necessarily representative. of what the public wants. Yeah. Um And how do you I don't know that you. fix that. I don't know if you fix that either. So, unfortunately, it's just a You end up adopting this.

kind of cynical position. Right. That you can only really take care of. yourself, your family, your community, the people you can donate money, you can. be altruistic in many different ways, but as far as the government, it seems. like an unsolvable problem. It's um it's definitely complex and it's. moving in the wrong direction. You know, I've been paying attention to these. companies that are buying up affordable. housing. Yeah. Have you been paying attention? and Zillow?

Yeah, that's scary. It is scary. cuz if they can move the entire country. into renting, like that's right. Nobody. can own anything. That's what they want to do. Right, that's what I'm saying. want anyone to own anything. get a giant majority of the population. that are just renters, they don't ever. own property. They never have their own. real real home. Yeah. And then you make sure that you control. their wage because you have massive. corporations, whether it's Target or. Amazon or whatever, and they limit the. amount of possible growth you have. within a company. Yeah. And there was that article, you'll.

own nothing and be happy in 2030. is wild. And this is, you know, kind of, you. know, when you look at a lot of these. think tanks and, you know, groups of. very powerful interests, when you look. at the kind of world they want, they. would like to get rid of things like car. ownership. Yes, I've been seeing that, too. They want to get rid of home ownership. They want people to all be on the grid. in a major way. They want surveillance,

you know, cradle to grave, 24 hours a. day, 7 days a week. Social credit systems. Yeah, and the only thing that's left to. do seems to be to to get in with them. So that when they're doing this to. everyone, you're with them. Yeah, you're on the right side of the. plastic glass. Because here's the problem. People are. marching into this willingly. They're. like marching into it. It's like my aunt. or the other aunt, like people, as long. as their team wins, they don't really. care what rights they lose and what.

things end up looking like. Yeah, they don't. There's a lot of. people that don't They and they're so. tribal that if the right-wing people. want something, they want the opposite. of that even if it kills them. And so, I. think that there's a lot of exaggerated. positions by people that take up these. real like amplified right-wing positions. and it's probably like Russian trolls or. Chinese trolls or something like that. And they take up these positions which. force the people on the left to get even.

more crazy with their Marxist ideas and. leftist ideas and they turn it up. They're being played. And very few people are autonomous. Very. few people have their own like. But we're also a silly country now. So, we have kids in the suburbs calling. themselves Maoists unironically in these. leafy green suburbs. And then we have. the alt-right and it's the same kids and. they want a a return to the Holy Roman. Empire. And these are children running around.

the suburbs that are online all day. venerating these genocidal dictators and. going this is a good idea. It's it's a silly country and there's a. lot of problems. And you know one of the first. indications that I saw of that this was. coming was when comics stopped doing. colleges. Interesting. Yeah. Cuz as soon as comics lose the. younger people, comics are like, "Dude, they're too. [ __ ] politically correct. It's too. It's too annoying. I don't want to do. this. They don't have any world. experience and their their their ideas.

are preposterous and you know, they. don't want any they they they're like. the first to say no one should own. property. They're the first to say that. you know, that we need a redistribution. of wealth and we need. Which a little bit of is good, but you. don't want all of it. Because then why make money? Income. equality is a crazy statement. Of. course. Because should people make more. money? Yes. Yes. They definitely should. If you look at a. corporation that's making [ __ ] untold. billions of dollars and then you go down. to the bottom of the chain and people.

are in dire poverty that are working for. that company and that company is. benefiting substantially more than. person's. The balance is way off. Balance is way off. And those people. have no leverage. That's where unions. come into play. That's why it's. important. but that's why Jeff Bezos recently with. Amazon like he's taking the photos with. the girl. Yeah. He's enjoying it. At least the Amazon. employees, even though they don't have. food or health care, can look at him to. go he's having fun. Well, we're working for someone. Whereas a Warren Buffett, he's just in.

Omaha having sex with kids quietly and. worshipping Satan. what it sounds like? I come on. Who lives in Omaha? He's got. a billion dollars. He drinks a lot of Coca-Cola. He's got a hundred billion dollars. He. lives in Omaha. Why? Cuz he likes. He lives in a small house. he likes Dairy Queen. Let's cut it out. But Bezos at least he's on a raft with. these [ __ ] in the middle of the ocean. At least that inspires people. I think it's his actually his. girlfriend. Yeah. She's really pretty. She's pretty in an interesting way. Kind. of. that mean? There's a a shapeliness to her that's.

she seems threatening. Like an animal. She looks like an agent. Ah. Kind of like somebody that would play an. agent in a in a in a movie, which is. interesting cuz she probably is an agent. in real life. Well, she's a Mossad agent. or something. Dated a lot of other people. She's had. children. I think she's American. Well, God bless her. And she's making. good choices. I always tell women if you. can marry a a billionaire, right? Marry. move. Marry a wealthy dude. Hang in there for a couple years and. it's way better than working at Amazon. someone who will who they make money by.

destroying themselves while you enjoy. it. Which is many relationships that I know. A woman will enjoy the fruits of a man's. labor. He will destroy himself and she. will kind of enjoy the money. Right. Well, Bezos I believe is retired. Well, in. down as the CEO. kind of like Putin, right? Where they. never really stepped down. Interesting. But my my thing is like. when you have a country that's this.

silly, where Where specials are people. coming out making serious points. You. have late night hosts crying. You have, you know, the girl who. threatened her mother on Dr. Phil is a. legitimate star. Right? Bad baby. Remember that woman? Oh, yeah. She threatened to kill her mother on TV. She's a star now. She has massive Instagram following. Massive. Massive. Where does this go? Right? Pictures of. apes are selling for the cost of a.

Lamborghini. Our last president was the guy who. hosted The Apprentice. And on his last. day of office, a mob of lunatics ran. into the capital to take selfies with. [ __ ] wigs on. It looked like a sketch I would do. Like, it really is where we're in like a. [ __ ] weird movie. Do you remember when you were a kid and. you would hear about the last days of. the Roman Empire? Yes. Where they were just like eating till.

they couldn't take any more and then. shoving a feather in their mouths and. throwing up and [ __ ] everybody. Yes. That's us. And it's. This is that version of. that, it sounds good. It doesn't sound. that bad. But it is it is funny as a. comedian when you when you step back and. you go like this is. really, really. crazy stuff. It's crazy stuff and the problem is I. don't see a good ending. Because if we. fall in the the other problem is we have. to compete with China. And China has.

this amazing ability to control their. population through propaganda and. intimidation and, you know, total. censorship. Which we're like moving in. that kind of general direction. Which is. really scary because the the one way we. may be able to compete with China is to. become more like China. Because. otherwise, like they're so. they're so integrated. They're um. their government and their business is. inextricable. They're connected. You. cannot have a corporation where the.

government's not involved. Right. So, the government makes decisions with. the corporations that benefit the. government, benefit the Chinese. Communist Party, benefit the country in. general. And we're on that path, too. Yeah, but. We have military industrial contractors, pharma companies that kind of killed the. Obama healthcare bill, then went in and. rewrote that. They were like, "We don't. want this." All their lobbyists had a. lot of influence on that. It I mean, it's strange to to really conceive of it. as a reality as opposed to just a joke.

or a um. you know, kind of a cynical aside. It. actually does seem that we're in a stage. of decline. Yeah. that's somewhat irreversible. Yeah, it does. it's it's it's hard not to be depressed. Have you I think we've talked about this. before, Douglas Murray. He talked about all the the gender. issues. Yes. He was on my podcast and he was saying. that these gender issues where people. were changing genders is what I'm. talking about. He goes, "That takes. place in all civilizations that are. collapsing.". Now, why is that?

I don't know. You mean. Is it people just get bored? I think it's a. when life gets very easy, people start. looking for problems and they start. looking to the structure of society and. then looking to try to dissolve. Yeah. Cuz there are legitimate trans people, clearly. Clearly. Clearly, I know somebody who's trans who. never speaks about it. Lives as a woman. Doesn't even know that I know. Great person. Um born a man, now lives.

as a woman. Doesn't speak lives as a. woman doesn't speak about is like. Well, say her name so everybody knows. Well, I I don't She probably wouldn't. even mind. Everyone now is such a fame. [ __ ]. Well, Uh you know. I had Blair White on the podcast. Blair White, yeah. as trans as you can get. Like, you look. at that and go, "Oh, I get it.". So, there's. But then there's this other thing where. people are going, "I have green hair. Yeah. I'm. trans or non-binary and you go, wait a minute. Hold on a minute. You're.

a white female who goes to Wesleyan. College. You're dating a guy. Right. You're in a heterosexual relationship. You felt no oppression your entire life. Your dad works for Raytheon. Your. mother's a pill addict. You go to school and you go. Joel song? THIS IS. YOU GO TO SCHOOL AND you figure out a. way to not be the oppressor. Right, right, right. You go, I will be different now.

Yeah, it's true. And as a real [ __ ] you used to have. to be a [ __ ] to be a [ __ ] Like, you. used to have to have sex with men or if. you're a woman you have to sex with. women and and people were supposed to, you know, be like. And there was some naturalness to that. because like the reaction of people was. that the thing that you were saying was. real, right? It and some people were. like, it was harder for them to to to.

get behind and. But you suffered legitimate oppression. You suffered legitimate oppression. because the feelings you had were valid. and real. Right, not non-binary oppression. was it was it was real. Like you were. saying, I put a penis in my mouth and. people are going, that's odd. And well, it's my father who said that, cuz that's. odd. No, I'm kidding. He didn't. He He's He's fine with everything as. long as he doesn't have to work harder. He's not a hard worker. But. he So, the the the whole thing is this. new thing has taken over the gay thing.

now. So, it's not really gay people. Gay. people are kind of looked at as Nazis. Really? If you see two lesbians now, cuz. lesbians usually own businesses, um you. know, they're usually they're. capitalists. Most lesbians are. capitalists and they're quite vicious. Really? They fire people. Oh, most lesbians are. very competent people. Big Alan? Big Alan. Alan is a CEO. Truly. Yes. She She has a. a real estate portfolio that's in excess.

of a hundred million dollars. I mean, she. Right. Right. The woman was a tyrant, but she got. things done. Yeah. But now I think. gays and lesbians are like the normies. of gays now. And there's a new crop of. people coming in that don't really have. any sex. They spend most of their time. online. They're all like pansexual. communist witches, and their main goal. is to tweet about you. No one even. [ __ ] They're really just tweeting. about you. No one's even having dirty.

sweaty sinful sex in a motel room. anymore. Everybody's on Reddit talking. about you. Have you. It's a weird thing. It's weird for me. It's you know, it's. really weird. the movie? It was very fun. Yeah, I never watched it. But it's a great Nichols May Rohmer. edge, brilliantly funny. It's gay people. in South Beach doing drugs, having sex, and having fun. We are like the opposite. of that. We are like in some sexless. autistic horror hellscape where people. just sit around, and there's this weird. like office politics, bureaucratic like.

you know, weird like. you know, you made me upset. You made me. upset. Like I grew up with Rent where it. was that show where people were like, "We have AIDS, but let's have fun.". Right, let's dance. That was the theme of Rent. It was like, "We have AIDS, but let's not let it ruin. the night.". Yeah. And now people are just upset for all. kinds of reasons. It's weird. And you. don't really hate uh gay people. No, I don't hate any I love you. Yes. No, you've been you've been very. good to me. Yeah, I don't. Loving me is like go golfing with.

Candace Owens and going, "I LOVE. BLACKS.". SO, NO. NO, I LOVE EVERYBODY, MAN. I I I have no ill will towards any. individual group. Right. I individual people. Yeah, of course. silly people. How weird is it that comedy's gotten. weird like now at the Comedy Store, you. have all these guys that have talked. [ __ ] about you, right? Now, obviously. many of them are feeble and diabetic and.

dying. So, it's not like they present a. physical threat. I mean, many of them. are not well. But, if you were like is. it weird now with this community the way. it is that's so splintered? Well, I don't know who's talking [ __ ]. about me. And the ones that do, if that. is real I left. Right. I brought a lot of the people here. And. it's better here. Right. Right. and I think there's a lot of FOMO going. on, for sure. But, then there's also a. lot of people that are trying to. establish this new position on the food. chain. Which is one of the way ways that. you and I became friends cuz I read the.

thing you wrote about Louie. Right. And I'm like, he [ __ ] nailed it cuz. that's exactly what it is. It's these. mediocre talents that are looking to. attack Louie who was at the time and. still is one of the best comics that's. ever lived. One of the most brilliant comic minds. that have ever lived. And so, when they were attacking him, they weren't just attacking him because. they thought that what he did was wrong. They were doing it because they wanted. to establish that they want to stomp him. down because he was. even know what he did. You know, like. there was just this idea this very kind. of vague general idea of what what had.

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100%. Wow. 100%. think he'd come on though, right? think he'd come on, but if he did, I'd I. would request a real podcast. Like you. can't come on for 20 minutes. Like we're. going to talk for a few hours. he came here, sat down, got high, and. was the greatest guest you've ever had? What if he just admitted it? What if. he's like, "Joe, we're making [ __ ]. money.". AIDS. Yeah. He goes, "We're making money. We. made money off AIDS. We made money off. this.". I've got to a point. I'm coming clean. I'm 80. What the [ __ ]. He goes, "Who gives a [ __ ] You chop.

them up, a couple of them fall down in a. Walmart.". You are entirely correct, Tim. That is. exactly what I've been doing my entire. career. It's a. He's in a He's. tell you about repurposing HIV drugs. This was how we started the scam. Gain of function research. just unlocked. Obama shut it down, right? 2014. Obama shut down gain of function. research. Yeah. And he was like wary of the.

implications of having. 100% cuz he's [ __ ] smart. He's a. smart guy. You know, how bad do you miss him? When. you look at the presidents that we've. had since then. I still do coke with him, so I don't. miss him at all. I would like to. coke with him and his wife in my home. hilarious one with him and Bruce. Springsteen. Bruce is a depressing. a bad podcast. I'd like to come in and. spice it up. Uh Bruce has a podcast? With Obama. No, he doesn't. It's terrible. That is horrible. could go on and show them how to do it. Like stop. Yeah. Like, you know how they get like dance. instructors that do like Dancing with.

the Stars? They They They think they're. dancers. Yes, right. Like, "Oh, I'm a dancer." No, no, no. The real dancers are going to show you. how to dance. You and I will show them. how to [ __ ] podcast. What the hell are those two talking? Nonsense. Oh, god. It's nonsense. It's all like so like. it's so aware that people are paying. attention. They're so aware of like. walking that line of acceptable. narratives that nobody cares about it. It's It doesn't It doesn't work. It's crazy. work. That's one thing about podcasts. The. brilliant thing about it is because. there's no real production, there's no.

real engineering, and where a bunch of. people are like writing scripts and. following that, is that it's so raw that. anything that's not like that doesn't. work. Whereas like mainstream news is so. produced that if you had raw on. mainstream news, people are like, "What. the [ __ ] kind of unprofessional [ __ ] is. this?". Like Bruce Springsteen's got to turn. around to Obama during it and be like, "So your wife's a man." Like someone has. to. someone has to liven it up with fun. stuff like that, which isn't true, but.

it's a fun way. one to take. That's a killer non one, you know, they believe that. do believe that. They're hardcore. There's even videos of trans people that. are with you on the vax, but they want. you to go much further. Oh, yeah. They're like, "Listen, flat. Yeah, they cuz they don't stop at the. vax. No, why would you when you go hollow. earth? Why would you when you go hollow earth? They They go hollow earth, they go the. world is flat. Reptile people. Yeah, the Jews are in the cupboard. It's. a whole thing. Yeah, deep Yeah. Who knows what's real and what's not. real, you know?

Right. You go down the list of all the. things that Alex Jones predicted. Right. get a lot of them wrong. Well, he did it, but he did get a few of. them wrong. up that Sandy Hook one. Rhymes with. Mandy Mock. And that's a real That was a That's a. rough one. one. If that one didn't exist. Let's. Let's pretend that he never [ __ ] that. up cuz he was going through a rough time. in his life, man. was drinking like crazy. He had. essentially a psychotic break. I mean, he's really open about it. But my uncle went through a rough time, he just played golf through it. Like. sometimes you just.

Sometimes you do That's a great point, but sometimes you just got to go through. the rough time without accusing kids of. faking their death. Well, he wasn't accusing the kids of. doing it. He was accusing the parents. Whatever. up. He's a good man. The The point is if that if he didn't If. you just remove that and then you look. at all the things that he predicted that. he was right about a lot of them. Look at a guy like People like, "Why. would you talk to a guy like that?". Yeah. Because, first of all, I've known him. for more than 20 years. He's my friend. He is a very nice guy. Right. He He absolutely [ __ ] up, but he'll.

tell you that he [ __ ] up. And people. [ __ ] up, and I think you got to be. allowed to [ __ ] up. the people to do the horrible things. but the problem is. His fans are crazy. They're Well, people are crazy. fans. are what they call They're a little off. news for you, pal. Some of yours are. off, too. Mine as well. Mine know it. Yeah. I know it. No no avoiding that. But the idea that. you're responsible for the off people. that listen to you and want to start. screaming at Meghan McCain, "Stop. [ __ ] your dead dad.". Well, that I tell them to do. I organized that. I have rallies.

But yeah. For sure. I. I said they wanted to find a. conservative on The View. I said, "Let. me go in there with the wig. I'll be the. conservative that left.". Does any woman even want to do that. anymore? It's like. Nobody wants to do it anymore. Cat Timp, who was a libertarian from Fox, they. were trying to go hard at her, but she's. like, "I'm on Gut Feld. I'm on a show. people watch. Who cares?" They've turned. that show into. What they've done is they've made it so. that all they do is fight. Right. All they do is scream and yell. All they. do is get upset at people. It's all. negative. It's all demeaning. It's all.

insulting. Yeah. They've just gotten to this point where. the show has just got this feel of it. You only watch to see who they're mad. at. Right. No, it's a it's a horrible horrible. experience for anyone watching or. participating in it, truly. This is what's wrong with it. If you got. five friends that just wanted to talk. about things like that, and they didn't. have time limits, and they didn't have. Like all these constraints that are put. on a show like that hinder the the. possibility of it being good. You know, the. Oh, for sure.

All the people in the audience, that's a. problem because you're playing to the. audience. And then you have the fact. that you have a commercial coming up in. 45 seconds. You got to make your point. And then these other [ __ ] are trying. to chime in. You got to talk over them. But they can't find a female. conservative. No. I think they're going to have to use. that grandma who was yelling at the. Sandy Hook parents. I forget her name. The one who's like, "Prove it, you dumb. fuck.". But she she's a Q She was a QAnon. grandma. I forget her name. Ben knows. her name. Two QAnon grandmas? Yeah, she was this grandma that was in.

that documentary, and she would go She. would yell at these parents. It was very. sad. She'd be like, "Prove it, you dumb. fuck." About their kids. dying. And I think she should be on The. View. Or get Rosie O'Donnell back cuz. she at least questioned 9/11. Yeah. Yeah, she um she questioned Tower. 7 and a lot of other things. Like. there's a. the those things are like real. complicated. You can't get those wrong. You can't get them wrong, but there's. clearly [ __ ] with that. Yeah. If there's [ __ ] with the vaccine,

there's [ __ ] with that. Well, there's certainly [ __ ] in the. reaction to that because we invaded. Iraq. That's all you need to know. Like. I had a whole Twitter about that at one. point. Yeah. Yeah. It's like if you can look at what. happened on September 11th, 2001 and. then the logical conclusion is we got to. invade a country that had nothing to do. with it. It's crazy. It's crazy. And then they did it and they said, "Well, there's weapons of mass. destruction there." Okay, and they cost. like more than a million lives and it. turns out there were no weapons of mass. destruction. It's just a weird thing where I go I'm. just like one of those old school guys.

goes, "Just show me one video of the. plane hitting the Pentagon." And I'm. good. See, I think there is a video of the. plane hitting the. No, there's not. It looks like a [ __ ] plane. What does. that look like? a trail of smoke. They they doctored it. You think they doctored it? 9/11 the new Pearl Harbor is a crazy. documentary by this Italian guy Massimo. Mazzucco. It's 5 hours. Watch it. You people have. nothing to do. It's 5 hours. Is it good? It's great. I'm telling you right now. it's a 5-hour documentary on YouTube. You will watch it. Get the fam together.

Sit them down. Popcorn. And I'm telling. you right now cuz I watched it to debunk. it. I watched it to debunk it and went, "Yeah." You start going into the flat, the phones at 30,000 ft. These people. having conversations. It's just not. happening. Something's off. You can't have a cell. phone call at 30,000 ft. Something's really, really off with that. day, but you just can't Now when these. publications that write about me, they. describe me as like 9/11 truther, COVID denier. It's like I just get all. these. You had COVID. How can you. I've had I've never said COVID was not.

real. Yeah. You know, I've said I thought it was. good. Well, I've had people mad at me because. I medicated cuz I took medicate medicine. for and you're in shape. You eat right. You work out. Why would you take the. medications cuz it's better than not. taking medication like that the stuff. works. Listen, I'm I'm not saying you shouldn't. take medication. I'm saying you're. saying you should take medication. I'm. saying you should for sure always but. especially if it's proven medication. that works. But the point is like you.

shouldn't have a binary solution for. things. So it's either this or nothing. It's either one or zero. That's crazy. Do you when people pass away? They. donate a large chunk of their fortune to. like. research and things like that. Do you. think you will donate yours to Robert F. Kennedy Jr. Or like Dana White? Who will. you give your money to Demi Lovato? She's she's going to she's going to give. it to ghosts. Hey man, she used to live. in my building fun woman.

Yeah, it's it's straight. Do you ever. think to yourself? What's the next act. because you've literally You're the most. successful comedian probably when you. look at all the different things you've. done. There's not many people that have like. what do you ever go? I've done it all. and that's a little scary. No, no. because I don't think like that ever the. crazy thing about all the different. things that have done is. all I've ever tried to do like I tried. to become a professional comedian. I. achieved that and then I started working.

as a professional comic and then all the. other stuff is just stuff that came up. whether it's acting on news radio. That. was just. They just offered me money to ask do you. still keep in touch with Kathy Griffin? No, I would though. I love her. Yeah, was she on that show. or no? No, okay. I thought she was on that. show. No, no, no, no, Kathy Griffin was. on just shoot me, right? It was the other one. I forgot. She's. nice. Yeah, Vicky Lewis was on news radio. That's. who you're thinking of. Yeah, okay. I.

don't know. I don't know about her. She's red head too. She's That's why maybe I'm getting. confused. We used to always joke around that like. she was stealing her act like when we. were on News Radio. Joking around. And and you worked with Phil Hartman who. was like one of the funniest people. ever. But again, that was just like I stumbled. into that show. Like completely stumbled. into it. I had no acting experience. I mean I'd. done a little bit acting on another. terrible sitcom that got cancelled. That. got cancelled. All of a sudden I'm on. News Radio working with Dave Foley and. Andy Dick and Phil Hartman with no.

acting experience. Like what the [ __ ] is. happening? Yeah, what's going on? And then I go from that to Fear Factor. I'm like, well, this is going to get. cancelled immediately. Meanwhile, it's. one of the most successful reality shows. ever. It's like six [ __ ] seasons. you learn from like. that? Was it just do everything and. don't focus too much on like. cuz. there's there's there's even though. you're saying you're stumbling into them. and you are stumbling into them, there's. a skill to stumbling. Right? There's a skill to being position. yourself in a way that you can kind of. get those opportunities.

There's that, but there's also being. able to handle pressure. Okay, there you go. Like being able to handle auditions, pressure, being able to. handle the pressure of speaking live in. front of a large audience, whether it's. doing the UFC broadcast or doing a. comedy show or a podcast. You got to be. able to handle pressure. Right. Some people just suck at pressure. You. know, and I always put myself in these. positions where I have to perform under. pressure because opportunities are. available there because so many people. don't like pressure. So I would look at. it and go, "Oh, they're scared People.

are scared of this, so I'll go do that.". Right. There's less people doing it and there's. it's more exciting to me because it's. kind of dangerous and scary. got into it, was your family like, "Oh, this is cool" or were they like, "No, what are you doing?". doing, idiot? Yeah. Go to school. Get a Get a career. Get a. real job. Like you're not funny. Right. a lot of. Right. Right. Right. I was fighting, like you're going to get. hurt. Yeah. Like everything I've done, like what are. you doing? You know, it's just it's. hard. If you have a child and you want. your child to be successful, you don't. want your child to take some wild, crazy, [ __ ] chance that What is a.

million to one chance it's going to pan. out? Probably more than a million to. one. Right. Was your childhood like the show Cobra. Kai on Netflix, where you just fighting. people all the time? Mhm. That's what I imagine it is. You're just. fighting You're in a dojo, you have a. sensei, you just fight the other kids at. the at the, you know, No. Well, I did fight a lot of people, but I did it mostly in tournaments, but. I did fight in dojos a lot. We had real. dojo fights. that I know of. Okay. Why were you fighting everybody? Were. they fighting you? Yeah. Yeah, we Like, guys would come in.

from other schools, and they would want. to challenge us. And I was often the guy. who got thrown in with them. Yeah. When you were younger, were you bullied? What motivated you? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I was small, and guys would pick. on me, and I moved around a lot. Like, we moved all the time. Like, I lived in. San Francisco from Well, New Jersey to. age seven, San Francisco age seven to. 11, Florida 11 to 13, Boston 13 to 24. So, I was [ __ ] moving constantly. So, I never really established a great group.

of friends that I was tight with. I was. always the new kid, and I was not big, so I got [ __ ] with. Right. So, you learned to defend. yourself. Well, I had to. When I When I moved to. to Newton, I got [ __ ] with like by a. bunch of kids, and it was kind of scary. You know, I didn't know how to defend. myself. And I was like, [ __ ] Like, I. got to do something. And so, I started. taking martial arts, and it changed my. life 180 degrees. Like, turned it around 180 degrees. Then, all. of a sudden, I wasn't worried about. conflict anymore. And then, I became.

obsessed with being like, oh, like a. world champion. I became obsessed with. being. have like one good teacher, or there's a. few good teachers that stand out? I had quite a few, but I I went I got. very lucky that I went to this one. school, this Jae Hun Kim Taekwondo. Institute in Boston. It's like one of. the most uh highly respected schools in. the country, at the time at least. And. it was just dead lucky. Just dead lucky. I I just happened to go there one day. Right. And I I happened to go there while this. guy, John Lee, was training for the.

world championships, and I I happened to. watch him train like when he was at his. peak of condition, when he was a. national champ, and and I became. obsessed. And then I And I was there. every day. Right. So, my most of my my high school, from. like age 15 all the way until I was 21, was just obsessed with martial arts and. competing. Right. Traveling all over the country. That's. what mostly what I did. And your friends, I guess, were people. in that world. Yes. Yeah. Some of them, like my friend Steve. Graham, I'm still really tight with. Yeah. And how do what makes you go from.

that to comedy? Well, It's kind of an interesting transition. Right. a little bit of that. Because I was I. was definitely aware that I was getting. hit in the head too much. There was. especially when I started kickboxing. I. had three kickboxing fights. And when I. was training for kickboxing, which I did. for more than a year, there was a lot of. getting hit in the head. There was a lot. of hard sparring rounds. And then I was. also watching a lot of other people that. I saw that had brain damage. I was like, like this guy's not who he used to be. Like he's slipping. And then I realized.

like, oh my god, this is happening to. me. And there was no money in it. Right. There was no UFC back then. So, this is. 1988, '89 is when. So, you're like, you got to get out. Yeah, I had to get out. And I had to get. out soon before I ruined my brain, you. know? And then also, fortunately, my. friend Steve that I was talking about. earlier, he was one of the people that. told me I should be a comedian. Cuz I. would we would go on these trips to go. to fight in tournaments, right? Right. Often times we'd be on a bus, or we'd. travel by car together, and we'd be. bored. And I would be the one who made.

everybody laugh. And so, like if we were. like getting ready to spar, everybody. would be like super nervous. And I would. say the most inappropriate [ __ ]. Right. and get laughs out of people. And once I. knew that I could get laughs, then I. would just try to do it. Right. whenever I knew people were nervous, I. would say the inappropriate thing, or do. impressions of people, or impressions of. like uh our instructor having sex. Right. So, you you just established. yourself as kind of the funny dude. Yeah. Silly and funny. was like it was gallows humor. Like cuz. everybody was so scared. And it was also. would alleviate some of the pressure of.

like getting scared before you go to a. tournament. We were all scared. Right. And so, my friend Steve said, "You. really should be a [ __ ] comedian.". Yeah. And I go, "Ah, man. You think I'm funny. cuz you like me. I think other people. are going to think I'm an asshole.". Right. And he's like, "I don't You should just. You should just go and just see an open. mic night and try it." And so, I did. I. went to an open mic night and. hooked on night one? Yeah, pretty much. Yeah. Richard Jeni had a great point. Yeah. He goes, "Horrible comedians are amazing.

in that they inspire people to try it.". Cuz you look at someone who's terrible. and you go, "Well, I can't be as bad as. that guy.". Right. I'll give it a shot. Right. That's what open mic night was to me. Cuz I had thought of stand-up like Jerry. Seinfeld or Richard Pryor. I thought. like, "I can't do that. These guys are. too good.". Right. you go to open mic night and you go, "Oh, some of these people are terrible.". Right. doing it and like, "I can kind of do it. like they're doing it, maybe a little. better than them. Maybe I can Maybe I. could do this." And then, on the same. night, like there was like Jonathan Katz.

was the host of the open mic night from. uh Dr. Katz. yeah. Yeah. He was the host of open mic night. the first time I ever went on stage. And. then, on that night, some other real. professionals went on. Like Teddy. Bergeron went on. And I got to see him. go on and I I got hooked immediately. Yeah. So, I did my first set and then I almost. chickened out. I got really close to. chickening out. Oh my god, I I came that. close to pussying out. Yeah. And then, um once I did it, I was. hooked. And then I started doing it all. the time. And you got successful pretty quick.

Pretty quick, yeah. I mean, luckily in. Boston, you could get work pretty quick. Right. You know? So, like within 1 year of. doing open mic nights and you know, and. we I I Fitzsimmons and I started out. together. And we would drive Greg and I. would drive together to Rhode Island to. do 10 minutes. So we drive 90 minutes to. 10 minutes. was that? 88. Wow. Yeah. We both started in 88. We both We. all started within within a week of each. other. So you would go to comedy Everybody. smoked cigarettes. Was it all. you know old school? Oh yeah. Yeah.

Bars were filled with cigarette smoke. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Yeah. There was no idea like there was no. non-smoking. Right. Right. Yeah. It was hilarious. just everything smoked. It smelled like. that. Yeah. Yeah. And everyone smoked. Right. It was crazy. And people just you would you would go. up do the 10 minutes. Yeah. Sink or swim. Kill or bomb. And then you. would be back on the road. Yep. And then we would try to go to. different places. Like we would go to a. couple different spots a night if we. could. You know sometimes we knew. another guy wanted another room. So you. do a spot here. back then would you look at certain. people and go that guy is going to make.

it? I A lot of people I thought were going. to make it that didn't. And what what do you attribute a lot of. that to? Why do you think a lot of funny. people cuz I've seen that now I've been. doing it about 11 years to probably. almost 12 years now. A lot of people I. was like that person was really funny. Yeah. And they didn't get to that next level. I don't know man. Yeah. I don't I mean I think there's a bunch. of factors. That that's one. A little too much sometimes. Drinking or. drugs. be it but it's also there's psychology. involved. Like. Yeah. the the mind games that that the unknown.

and the uncertain play on people. Some. sometimes people just crack. That's right. Just like we were talking about fame. Yeah. People crack under fame. Like they get. to a certain point where they can't. handle this anymore. They can't handle it. They don't know. what's real. Right. They crack under that. They crack. under the pressure of not knowing if. they're going to make it. I mean I've. seen that in actors too. Like and I've. been friends with actors that were like. they'd get on a show and then you know. they'd audition for another show and. then maybe not make it but maybe have.

like another callback for the thing and. they're always in flux and They would. would go crazy because they didn't know. like what am I doing with my life? What. is happening? Is this going to work out? Am I and they'd start crying, freaking. out. It's like just the uncertainty and. the unknown. For some people it's just. too much. It's too much. Some of them are really [ __ ]. talented. Some of them are really funny and then. there's a lot of people. that are some of them mediocre but they. have mastered the unknown. Yeah. Like that's.

delusional. Yeah, there's crazy people out there. that if you. that can channel that into certitude. Yeah. And then they start convincing. themselves like they've convinced. themselves they're great and then they. start convincing everyone else and it's. kind of like the emperor has no clothes. where everyone's like I guess they're. great. Well, I don't even know about that but. one thing that some mediocre people do. is they're not funny at all but they've. managed to stay around. Right. they are 10 years later, 15 years later. He's still here. He's still going up.

hosting that show at the you know. whatever. it. Still doing it. Yeah. Do you Do you. think. Do you think people that are starting. comedy now. are is it going to be a completely. different world where I I tend to think. now. people that are starting are going to. have to go to the internet. And and. almost the same way that you were taking. a beating at open mics and things like. that they're almost going to have to. take a beating online in front of a. digital audience to build their thing.

because the. the mainstream or the legacy industry. seems to of comedy seems to be dying. So. even though they'll be getting good at. stand-up on the side, if they don't have. other components. What What do you mean by the mainstream. of comedy is dying? Meaning that the idea of moving to New. York or LA and doing 20 sets a week and. then getting. the the Montreal Comedy Festival and. then getting the the booker at the club. to see you and like you and then getting. a special on HBO. All that seems to be. dying. I I so many people with hour.

specials and nobody's watching them, right? Or so many people with late-night. TV shows, like they're hosting them and. no one cares. Yeah, that's true. And and they're not making that much. money, and it seems to be a smaller and. smaller circle of people that this is. mattering to. Every day the internet's. expanding, it seems to be getting bigger. and bigger, and the people that have a. platform online, a digital platform, seem to be getting more and more. attention. So to me, isn't there an. inevitable shift coming to where comics.

really are just going to have to compete. digitally? I think the digital aspect of it is the. best way to promote themselves, for. sure. Whether it's through putting their. stuff online on a YouTube or a Rumble or. Instagram or whatever they're doing, like people. which you're now on. You're on Getter. That's a new story. Why is that a new. story? Communist Party now, I believe. Yeah, why are you It's a new story that. you're on Getter? Well, the new story is their their. [ __ ] amount of people that signed up. increased by 1,150%. or something. Yeah, you have like 20 you have like.

eight 9 million followers on Getter. Yeah, it's not real, though. Because. Getter doesn't even have 9 million. people. No. Really? Yeah, yeah, it's it's very it's. So there's [ __ ] with that? where the [ __ ] is. They take all my. Twitter followers. So I my Twitter. followers like 7.8 million, and then. they port those over. So I started out. with 7.8 million. So whatever I have now, if I have eight, it's like really I have 200,000. So Getter is fugazi, as they say. Definitely fugazi. And every time I post. on Twitter, it posts automatically on.

Getter. Oh, interesting. Yeah, like it's automatically does that. Wait, so it's just harvesting your. tweets? And I don't know how to get off. Like if. I get off of Getter, You have to. You You have to You have to sit down. with Marjorie Taylor Greene personally. And she's going to tell me all about. what's in the basement of Comet Pizza. got to take you down the rabbit hole, then you come out the other side of. Getter. But yeah, it it seems to me that like. the the business is kind of dying. I don't think it is. You don't think it is? No, no, I disagree. I think. You prove it is.

This is No, no, no. The that aspect of. the business as far as like Montreal. Comedy Festival and stuff like that. being beneficial, that's true. That's. dying. But podcasts have taken their. place. And. Right, okay. comedians now like Brian Simpson who's. got his new Netflix special. Yeah, he's working with me this weekend. at Vulcan. He's one of the best. I love him to death. And he now that he. has this huge Netflix special that. killed and he's been on my podcast a. couple of times. He's got a career. Right. He's killing it. Right. And he will continue to kill it. Yeah. is where the the the conversation comes.

as Ranboo. So my point is that. Who's that? What are you. Ranboo's a Minecraft streamer, Joe. Stop. pretending you don't know who he is. Is that real? Yeah, he's a Minecraft streamer. My. point is that. things are moving quickly. ourselves to Minecraft. I understand that, but I'm just saying. yes, we can. I was IN THE NEWS BOOKSTORE THE OTHER. DAY AND DR. Disrespect has a book. Mr. Beast has a burger. Well, Mr. Beast deserves a burger. He's a brilliant guy.

a great show. It's a great show. Yeah, he does he does he's a visionary. guy. It's a smart thing that he does. He. spends a shitload of money on his show. what I mean. These are the new stars. Well, that's just in that world, but. those are the new stars in terms of like. that would be he would be a reality TV. star like 10 years ago. For sure. Now he's a YouTube star, but now he's. his own [ __ ] boss and he's doing it. the right way, which is why it's so. successful. The same thing with your. podcast. Imagine a world where an. executive bank rolls your podcast and. says, "Oh, you're going to sit together.

with your friend Ben. Yeah. going to wear cop sunglasses. Yeah. and you're going to talk [ __ ] about the. whole world? Yeah. you talking about? Yes. pay for that? I I can think of several executives that. would fund it, but they're all. disgraced. Angelo Mozilo at Countrywide, Dick Fuld. at Lehman Brothers, but. Exactly. Yeah, no, for sure. Yeah. The world has changed, but there are new. avenues that are available. But. the world of comedy remains in clubs. Like you must that is true. got to be able to get on stage and kill.

And we both. Yeah. That is the most important one of the. most important thing. Yes. It's like I'm not giving that up. Like. stand-up is [ __ ] awesome and that is. always going to be a thing that I like. to see and it's always going to be a. thing that I like to do and it's always. going to be a thing where people want to. go see a comic. They want to go live. It's a fun thing to do. want to get to the point where people. know you so well from the internet that. when you get on stage they just clap for. 45 minutes. You don't even have to write. material and then you can just leave.

You can kind of wave like Princess Diana. used to do. I don't think that ever happens. I don't. think you ever get that. No, of course not. the heat after about 15 seconds of. funny. No, of course you do. I I get nervous as. soon as I walk on stage I I get the mic. I go. No, it's the biggest high you ever have. It's the best thing. It's the best art. form. It's also the best thing for the. audience. Like in terms of like me as an. audience. audience member Yeah. I love watching someone kill. It's fun. When I laugh hard like I'm laughing hard. someone killing. But you're also from a generation of. people that leaves their house. That's true. There's a whole generation of people.

that are scared to leave the room. Well, my audience dies of old age I'll quit. You have to keep evolving. You should be. on Twitch. You should be streaming. I'm on Spotify. You're a young man. You can keep go Where's my deal? What. did they tell us? [ __ ] off for the ninth. time? Well, cuz I Why are they telling you to. [ __ ] off? I attacked the CEO. I said it was a. pedophile. It was. That's not real. No one can have fun anymore. I think he said I'm a pedophile, too. Yeah, I'm I don't know if I did that but.

I said that the CEO. was something or other but they. So, he's mad at you? No, he's not mad but apparently because. they have you they don't need me. Yeah. Because we have overlap and. They are still going by the old should. get you. They're still going by the old numbers. that say that this show is bigger than. mine. Those are the old numbers. This. last week This show is not even on. YouTube anymore. I keep telling them. it's true. It's not even on YouTube. They go, "Oh, no, it doesn't matter. We. have the internals and you're better. Honestly, the the beautiful thing about. Spotify has been the lack of censorship. and the lack of fear of having episodes.

pulled and all that [ __ ]. Spotify has been amazing and in the. beginning people thought they were going. to be worse than YouTube. They've. actually commercially been so much. better. Yeah, they've been so much better. I. think that's just cuz people are always. they tear they're they hate change. They. hate any kind of like new. thing that's happening and you know, also it's like they hate they hate. someone doing well. So, someone gets. some big crazy deal and they're making. all this money like, "AH, IT SUCKS NOW. I USED TO WATCH. Now I hate it. It's. [ __ ] the worst.

He sold out. Normal. It's normal. So, and also in the beginning I did lose. a lot. We lost like 50% of our audience. like almost right away. Yeah. Jamie was in a frothy panic. Really? Look at him. Well, he's got so many other. opportunities. Frothy panic. Yeah. Uh, but a year later we've got as much. if not more. We have more now. Right. Right. And it's better it's bigger than it's. ever it's ever been. It just it just had. to like. This is just what happens immediately. But I was like, "Good. Let me be 10%. less famous. I'll be happy for 25. Give. me 25% less fame and more money.

not the way it's worked out. Yeah, well, that's funny that you said. that. You're like, "Let's be a little less. controversial, a little less famous. Well, I was like, "I don't know. trying to drone you outside of your. house. It didn't really work out. now. Yeah. Yeah, but oh my god, that guy is out. Yeah, they're coming for him. They held him. look at the Cuomos. Yes. They held you and held you like the. Cuomos. a different situation, but the Fauci. situation after Rand Paul attacked him. for gain of function research and then. people started looking into gain of.

function research and it all came from. Josh Rogan's reporting and Josh Rogan he. was the one who showed that Fauci. funding the EcoHealth Alliance that the. NIH funding them is what started up gain. of function research in Wuhan like after. Obama had put the kibosh on it. Yeah. And he's like still in denial but the. NIH has come clean. NIH has said yes, it's gain of function research and. Fauci's like gain of function research. is a very nebulous term like he talks so.

slow. gets off to diseases. The guy's a. problem. It's amazing he is like the way he. handles where he's obviously cornered. Right. just like jujitsu's his way. Well, he's also been a government. guy forever. Forever. He's been a bureaucrat forever. employee. Yeah, and. He's paid more than the president. Yeah, and they did a documentary about. him and it's he's very vain. The documentary about him is the reason. they took the thumbs down off of. YouTube. It's crazy how vain.

how vain he is, you know, and how you. know, unwilling he is to give up the. spotlight even when as you showed me. that Hugh Hewitt clip people are like, you know, you might accomplish the goal. of getting more people vaccinated by. stepping aside because you're not. well-liked or trusted. And it's crazy to watch him react to. that. Yeah, you're crazy. You're crazy. disagree. Yeah, it's my show. If you criticize. Anthony Fauci, you're criticizing.

science. Would you have Billy Boy Gates on? 100%. Yeah. Yeah, 100%. I think that would be interesting. how do I get in the club? Yeah. What do I have to do to get in the club? about that time. You're you're knocking. on that door. a yacht? Dude, what if you just reversed. everything you said tomorrow like it. would be kind of hilarious. Turn it around. If you just went in here tomorrow and. go, you know, I slept on it and I've. decided. vaxed last night. Yeah, and you go I got double vaxed last. night. at the same time. a great sleep and I have the CEO of.

Pfizer and Moderna here and Hillary. Clinton and we're all going going you. everything's okay. Yeah. Yeah. Maybe that's the move. Does it scare you to be. at the level of prominence you are. with like a family? Just the idea of. like as the kids grow up and they hear. things on the news, does it is it harder. for you to explain. to them like. what I do. I mean, it's it's not easy to. explain, but nor would it be easy to.

explain if I was a hitman. You know, it's like. Well, those aren't the only two options. of. That's how I live. I have one one or two. choices. Either I go out like the. Punisher. Right. I mean, I like that. But so do do they ever ask or is it are. they not. Yeah, I mean, they think it's funny. Like but they think it's funny cuz I. think it's funny. That's right. Like when I come home like daddy's in. trouble again. Right. Oh, the the the the government's mad at. daddy. You know, like. they don't if I think I guess if I. really tweaked, they would probably.

tweak, too. But you set that standard of like this. is part of the job, part of the. business. man. You know, and you know, it's that. if you can't take the heat expression, you know. Right. Shouldn't be in this business. Right. Absolutely. So the business of opinions, you know, we're in the business of opinions. Yeah. And it's a weird [ __ ] business. because people it's hard for people to. have opinions today because of corporate. structures, human resources, you know, you want to make it up the corporate. ladder and there's an ideology that your. company has and if it's left-wing or. right-wing, you have to tow that line. Like it's [ __ ] hard for people to.

just have opinions. And even if they do. have opinions, when do they have the. time to talk about it? That's right. The thing about talking about opinions. like we do, where you sit and talk for. hours and hours, nobody has the time to. do that. What have you learned, I think, through. this whole period, not only just the. last year, but the last few years, about. the way that. friendships work. at your level because everybody wants. something from you, I know. right? You have this platform. You can.

share it with people. Everybody wants to. get on the show. Everybody wants maybe. you to endorse their I have friends who. call me like, "Yo, tell Joe about this. weed opportunity." I'm like, "Are you. on drugs?" And they are, but. like, how do you deal with just that? Where it's all these different people. to say no to a lot of things. You say no to a lot of people. And sometimes yeah, and sometimes it's. uncomfortable. Like sometimes people. won't let it go. And you know. And you said people will come at you all. different ways.

All different ways. Friends, your wife, friends, yeah. Trying to get in there. Yeah, it's it's it's uh it's an issue. You know I mean, I change my phone. number a lot. Right. I've got to change it again, you know. I've changed it last year. I got to. change it again. I I have several. phones. I have four phones now. Right. to. I have A, B, C, and D. You're A. Congratulations. Oh, congrat Thank you very much. I. appreciate. funnest character. Um, but there's a lot of people that. I'll check their I check that phone once. a week. Right. Yeah. And maybe not even. Sometimes not.

even. guest you've had other than me in the. last seven or eight years, would you. say? many good ones, man. Yeah. Was there anything I mean. There's so many serious ones, so many. funny ones. my head is Peterson. Yeah. Classic. Yeah, he's awesome. Bob Lazar. Oh yeah, that was a great one. That's a great episode. You know, I. don't know if he's. Mike Tyson or not. Mike Tyson's great. had a lot of great ones, man. Elon. Elon is always great. And Alex. Yeah, Alex is great. I've had so many.

great ones. So many comics. Like one of. the things that we've been doing is uh. me, Shane Gillis, Mark Norman, and Ari. Shaffir. We do this thing called Cuddle. Party. Yeah. Where it's the four of us, and we get. [ __ ] hammered and talk the most [ __ ]. And then afterwards, like panic. Like. maybe we should cut that part out. the best. That's when you know it's. good. That's when you know an episode is. good. Gillis was hammered. We've only had one person, and it was. Yianni's Pappas, come on our show where. we couldn't use ANY OF IT. CUZ HE JUST STARTS ATTACKING, screaming. about Ali Wong. I mean he's he's. mentally ill. We love him but he's meant.

he's unwell and we know that. too many heroes. Yeah, and so we just couldn't use it but. God love him. Um. The uh but yeah, those are when you know. they're good episodes. Yeah. it's those but those with the ones with. comics are my favorite because I feel. the most at home. I mean look I I I wear. a lot of different hats for lack of a. better term when you do this when I do. this thing. It's very strange. Like. sometimes I'm talking to a scientist. Sometimes I'm talking to someone who. wrote a book about the environment.

Sometimes I'm talking to a psychologist. Sometimes I'm talking to a comedian. Sometimes I'm talking to a fighter. Sometimes I'm talking to an invent it's. like weird. It's a weird gig, man. And I. it's only me that's booking them. Like. like that guy looks like fun. How do people get on? People ask me all. the time. They go, "How does somebody. get on that?". I I seek people out. I said yeah, I I think I'm like he just. has to want you to come on. Yeah, that's it. There's no other way. on. And I have to say yes. Like there's.

literally no other way on. Cuz well there's there's also giving me. $25,000. And what that'll do is increase the. likelihood of them coming on. It'll help. Yeah. But it's not an exact. done that once. Really? Yes. I didn't take the money but he paid. a friend and he my friend was broke and. he told me, "Hey, this guy told me that. if I get you on if I get him on your. podcast he'll give me $25,000." That was. the exact number which is funny to say. that. And I said, "Listen." I said, "I would. have that guy on anyway cuz he's really.

interesting. So yes, so you can I love. you so you take the money and then I'll. have him on." But I would I would just. let you know I would have had him on. anyway but don't tell him that and get. that money. Good for you. But yeah, there's no way. on. There's just you have to be. interested in what somebody is saying. That's one of the beauties of the. podcast is that it's only what I'm. interested in. So, whether it's talking. to Bob Lazar or talking to a fighter or. talking to an artist, you know, like. Beeple, like it's only. Right. I have to be interested. And I'm like,

uh I'd like to talk to that guy. Or. Oliver Stone who was on today. I was. like, Oliver Stone wanted to come on and. I don't know if you've seen his new. [ __ ] Kennedy documentary. Holy [ __ ] It's going. I haven't seen it, but I. It's [ __ ] amazing. And it's a 4-hour. one that's coming out. It's on Showtime right now until the end. of February. At the end of February, it's everywhere. And he's going to. release. a 4-hour version. Wow. Yeah, it's [ __ ] fantastic. will leave no doubt that it's a coup. god, there's no doubt with the 2-hour. one. But he says it's even deeper with. the 4-hour one. 4-hour one.

But like having Oliver Stone on, like. [ __ ] yeah. Quentin Tarantino, [ __ ] yeah. Like. Yeah. Those kind of people, it's like it's. just who I'm interested in. I I. Can I talk to that person? Yeah, let's. get him. Go get him. Go get him. Let's. do it. That's what it is. Yeah, I mean. That And that's one of the reasons why. the podcast works is cuz there's never a. moment like Do you remember that Bill. Hicks bit about Jay Leno sitting there. talking to Joey Lawrence? splatters like the NBC peacock. Yeah. Cuz he's a company man to the bitter. end. Yeah. But it's that Jay Leno really didn't. want to talk to these guys. Like that's.

the bit. Like, "Hey, Joey Lawrence. Yeah, you You got a girlfriend? What's. going on?". Well, maybe. Yeah. Yeah. You know, and he's just pulling out. these jokes. you want to talk to. Exactly. Like there's no one gets on. unless I'm interested. And so much of the rage I think at you. is that you've really found this way to. monetize enjoying stuff and satiating. your curiosity and having these long. meaningful conversations and you've. revolutionized the long-form discussion. Yeah. And all of these other media figures.

that supposedly could have done it or. fancy themselves to be intellectuals and. to be None of them did it. You did it. A. comedian, an MMA commentator, you did. it. None of them did it. It's weird. So, I think a lot of the rage at you. comes from that. It's that you took a. chance on yourself and it worked out and. none of them did. Well, it's it's weird too in that. um. like when it became a long form just. because that's what I wanted to do. Like.

Ari was like the [ __ ] most adamant. person telling me, "You got to change. it. You got to edit it." He would tell. me like you know, "I'm telling you right. now, you're [ __ ] up." I go, "How am I. [ __ ] up?" He goes, "You got to edit. your show. It's too long." I go, "Well, then don't listen.". Right. I love. when he goes, "People won't listen." You. go, "They don't have to.". Yeah, I'm like I don't care. Yeah. I was making no money. Right. making zero dollars but I was doing it. every week. Yeah. And it got to the point where it There. was one time when me and Redban were. sitting around he goes, "Do you know how.

many downloads this gets?" I go, "No.". And he goes, "That episode got a million. downloads." And it was like like a. record skip. Yeah. I go, "What?". What? Yeah, where did that go? What? A million downloads. Ari has great advice. He told me once. that I should I should put out a tweet. about Kobe Bryant and I DIDN'T. AH! SO, THANK GOD. BUT JUST SO, sometimes he. is wrong. Sometimes. Sometimes he's wrong. Yeah. Uh he's a funny guy. Uh but he Have you. ever seen his dick and balls? Every day. I mean, he's Well, I let him. stay at my rental and Tex sent me this. video. I mean, all he does is is is.

expose himself indecently. His. His balls don't look like they belong. with his dick. I told him that his balls. seem like his dick is a hermit crab and. stole his balls from someone else and. they're living inside of it. He's He's completely out of his mind. best friends. So, in a way. it's like you're here with me in spirit, too. So, happy New Year and. Look at those balls.

It's insane. They're so big. It's like elephantiasis. They're like. like a giant chimp. Yeah. Like you know chimps have huge balls. Yeah, it's like elephantiasis. It's. crazy. it's like. How does the family like Tex? Love it. They love it. Yeah, they love it. They love it. Yeah, man. It's [ __ ] great here. Yeah. People are so much more relaxed. And my. what I think is really important what. I'm doing here with the club and the. podcast here is I'm completely removing. myself from the influence of Hollywood. Right. Because when you're in LA, you're still.

In it. You're still in it. Yeah. still it's contagious. It's in the air. and you're like, "Ew, I got it on me.". Like that disingenuous. [ __ ]. Right. or you know, that fake sort of behavior. that they do. That stuff gets into our. business. We have those actor types that. kind of like they they dance in both. worlds and. Yeah. like one foot in the actor world and one. foot in and then they'll tweet about. stuff. Yeah. What the [ __ ] are you. What are you doing? What are you doing. about that? Because they're in these. both worlds and that world it.

contaminates things. Right. And comedy needs to have its own center. where it's like comedy is the 100% of. the thing. It's not comedy to become a. sitcom star or come. Right. I want to tell young comics and I want. to help them and say, "Hey, you don't. have to do anything else. Right. just do comedy. You don't have to have. anybody hire you for something. Right. You can be completely autonomous and you. could have all this like freedom to do. podcasts, do other people's podcasts,

and we all will work together as an. organic network. Yeah. You can just practice stand-up. Right. Which is what everybody loves. Right. Everybody loves stand-up. You do those. other things cuz you think that's what. you have to do for a career. But. ultimately, I remember being on. NewsRadio, I remember being on Fear. Factor in particular, and seeing people. that I knew that I started out with that. were killing it in theaters and they. were on the road all the time and I. would be jealous. Right. be like, "God, I wish I was doing that.". Yeah. I was trapped. Not trapped, obviously. It's a good trap. Yeah.

But I was doing a a show and I was like, "I can't travel. I have this show I have. to do all the time.". Yeah. I could travel very rarely. Yeah. remember thinking, "God, this like. cements in my head that I really love. stand-up." I I love money. It's Money. What's What's nice about money is you. don't have to worry about money. Because. if you don't have money, then you worry. about money. But if you can have a clear. head. and once you get money, don't think, "Oh. my god, I hope this doesn't go away. Now. I have to play everything safe and I. have to I have to really play by the. rules so I get more of this Hollywood. money." Instead, what I did was go,

"Okay, good. Now I've got some money. Now I can just be free. Now I'm going to. just do what I want to do." And then the. the podcast thing came out of that cuz. it was completely organic. There was no. thought whatsoever about it being. profitable. Zero. Yeah. And the club you're going to open. in a few months and then a lot of people. will come probably, you know, to the. club from other places, too. Well, I hope so. The goal is to be as. supportive as possible to. The goal is to be as supportive as. possible to stand-up comedy. To make an.

awesome place where comics where their. audiences can come, have a great time. Comics can come and know they're safe. They can have fun there. We you know, we're going to make it. going to require the booster. Everyone gets a booster. Before you go on stage. Every time. I. think if you just I think there's a. waning period where people are like, "Well, the vaccine effectiveness have. dropped off." Maybe if you keep hitting. people it'll come back. Just boost them. every [ __ ] week. And maybe if you. die, you were supposed to. I mean,

people are always saying that the roads. are too crowded here now. What if we. boost a lot of people? Yeah. I mean, that makes a lot of sense. I want to thank you for taking your time. and you're a busy guy. Ben's going to. get you we promised you $50. Ben, go to the ATM get him the money. I want to thank you. I want to thank you. for being one of these new up-and-coming. people that's very exciting and I think. you're paving the way for a lot of. people that are seeing what you're. doing, seeing your your courageous, you're a wild [ __ ] you take. chances, you're smart. It's awesome. I. love you and I'm happy to doing this.

by the way. Well, I am happy to be your friend and. thank you for giving me the strength to. be a gamer and be trans. Good night. Thank you. Thank you, Joe.