#256 - The Announcement | The Tim Dillon Show

ladies and gentlemen welcome to the tim. dillon show. uh a little squeeze here starting uh a. little late. because uh someone was late. someone was a little late. do you have any defense for your. tardiness the traffic was. heavy i tried to be on time the traffic. it's always something the traffic. well you said you were going to record. it three and then you moved it. i was doing a thing with my wife i was. that a thing. you know i mean i had to run from it and.

then. you had to run from the thing you were. doing yeah we. did your job there was a friend in. austin who was in town and you had to. run. from the friend to your job well you. said we were gonna record it four then. you moved it to three. so so i moved it your job was moved. and you had to leave why don't you go. back to the friend. i think you should go back to your. friend go back call your friend and say. go back to your friend let's just do the.

show let's you go back to your friend i. think it's better for you to go back to. your friend. seriously i'm dead's here please go back. to your friend. who's going to produce the show i'll. figure it out. i'll figure it out. it's insane um.

ladies and gentlemen welcome to the tim. dillon show uh. beautiful day in austin texas a mass. shooting downtown uh and in true austin. fashion. no one was killed 13 people injured no. one was killed this city cannot even do. that right amazing. have you learned your lesson okay. moving on big announcement.

to be made on the show. and i don't usually say that because we. don't usually have big announcements we. have them. rarely um and this announcement i. believe will be shocking. it will be stunning and i'm not a shock. value comedian that's not what we do. um but this will be genuinely. uh paradigm shifting it will. it will move people genuinely i believe.

and because it is so unexpected. there's no there's there is never a hint. you you know a lot of the things that. happen here there's some foreshadowing. elements. but not this this is uh out of the blue. as they say it's coming out of the blue. it is completely. uh utterly uh without um. any preconceived.

this this is just happening. organically it it just. it's really it's shaken. uh me to my core. the announcement i'm about to make. because i'm. i i understand how big of a deal it's. going to be to people. and how much it's going to throw them. throw them off. and i and i want to do it with care and.

i want to prepare them uh and i want to. take. the utmost care and caution with an. announcement of this gravity. because this is this is there's gravity. here this is real it's hard to even say. it's hard to vocalize it's hard to get. out of my mouth. it's hard to. bend.

why are you laughing i don't why are you. laughing. what's funny about this i don't know i. don't know. five months ago ben's wife. told us she was having an affair with. joe rogan. it was uncomfortable we respect and love. joe. he's incredibly generous nobody has done. more for comics than joe.

no one but even. even that being the case it was still. tough to hear. that ben's fiance his wife. was having sex with joe who had been so. good to both of us it put. us in a very difficult position his wife. then. informed us that she was going to keep. the affair going. and in order to do that we needed to.

move. to austin texas so she could continue to. have sex. with joe ben being a good husband. dutifully agreed and he came to me and. he said. katie wants to keep having sex with joe. rogan. do you think we should move to austin to. make it easier for her. so that she doesn't have to keep flying. and i agreed i said yes.

so ben's wife has been. carrying on an affair with joe. even the morning of their nuptials. they got married but in in the morning. of that day. she was having sexual congress with joe. rogan. and and she told ben that at the wedding. in front of a few of us she had a few.

drinks. and she said i just want you to know i. [ __ ] joe this morning. now something happened. there was a disagreement. i don't know what. we're not privy to that information and. i don't want to speculate. but ben's wife has ceased. her affair with joe she has stopped.

she is no longer having an affair with. joe. she's back to sleeping with ben. now it is awkward. living in austin texas so the. announcement. is as follows because of ben's wife and. only ben's wife. it is time to leave austin texas the tim. dillon show. will be leaving austin texas.

um in all seriousness because. what i was just saying was a joke i hope. for your sake it is a joke right i think. so yeah. in all seriousness we came down here. because the quarantine had warped. everybody's minds. i had moved from l.a to palm springs i. spent a lot of time in the desert alone. in 120 degree weather um.

and and then i went on the road a lot. too and i did a lot of stand up. did comedy during the craziest uh period. in the history of this country maybe to. do comedy. during a pandemic with the most. contentious presidential election. i did comedy the night donald trump was. put into the hospital with kovid. i mean this was [ __ ] wild those shows. were. wild doing them and we did them we did. them to go out and to make money. to see fans to to do it as carefully as.

we could to keep ourselves. mentally healthy and keep people. mentally healthy. and keep people working that worked at. comedy clubs. and we did them distance see we did them. outdoors and we did them. and and then joe who we love and respect. said i'm moving to texas and it it. it came at a time when l.a was. particularly bleak. and nothing was open and. i'd never loved austin i i had gone here.

and i've done south by southwest i've. done the moon tower. comedy festival but austin to me always. felt like brooklyn it was. fun but it was yeah a lot of hipsters. and the food was good a little. one note it's barbecue we get it great. mexican food as well. um but it was a college town it was a. small. city this was not a uh world-class city. it just was not and i hadn't been here. for a while and i. i i didn't know and and i moved here. because i felt like i needed something.

new. and that something new would be good and. yes the taxes are better. and yes there are uh benefits to not. being in la and yes. la has a host of problems but i moved. here because. first and foremost i said something new. will be. good um. i was wrong i was wrong. um the city of austin texas. is a city in the realm of the.

of the artistic or whatever for people. who have. left new york or l.a or never had the. guts to go. to new york or l.a it's for people who's. they've never figured out a way to make. their art or whatever commercially. viable. and they should have a city those people. should have a place to get drunk at 2. a.m. to get high to eat brisket they should. have it it's their culture. do not force them to be productive.

members. of society uh it shouldn't happen. that's the culture of austin if the. slacker the near duel. always has been always will be a few uh. exceptions. mike judge richard link letter but the. vast majority of austin. quite proudly is uh. a culture of not making it not doing it. for whatever reason um so when joe wants. to create a comedy hub here god bless. him. but he's fighting against a current and.

cultures. matter and this culture has been around. for a very long time. and i have no interest in colonizing a. city and making people. uh making it into a great comedy city i. don't care um. the tech people are moving here they'll. have 3d printed brisket. uh they'll they'll have uh you know the. house values that go up. i bought a home here i'll rent it or. i'll keep it and. i'm not worried about that i think it's. a great real estate move i'm speaking.

solely. about comedy and me and this show. it is not the move um. austin has many of the problems of los. angeles a lot of the homeless people. there was a mass shooting last night 13. people got injured not shot not killed. of course not. even the mass shooters in austin. can't get it done. and the cops didn't even find the guy.

he's running around here. on the loose he's on the loose. we got a mass shooter on the loose it. could be any one of our friends. we should call the tip line and just. read off my instagram the people i'm. following. but we love joe we respect him when joe. has a club i'll come back here and work. at that club and be excited to do so but. i. i just could not get in a groove with. this city i tried. not really um but i i gave it some.

effort. i gave it a uh you know i've been i've. been downtown four or five times. that's enough that's enough the first. time i went down there homeless people. were throwing bottles at us as we walked. out of the creek in the cave. people are being killed at night the. homeless are just going up and murdering. comedians and i don't even know am i. against that. i i i'm i'm put in this weird position. of of of having to care about a city.

that i've never. cared about and i i can in good. conscience. do that i only want to be funny i. only want to really affect people with. what we do. i don't give a [ __ ] about hostage i love. texas. i love the areas around austin are. beautiful i like dallas and houston and. fort worth and. the audiences are great but i don't care. what happens to the comedy community of. austin texas.

i don't care it has been forever. a community of sloth-like people. truly slugs slugs. and they should have it. it should be for them. joe rogan can walk around here and ask. people be like hey why don't you write. more. shouldn't you work out it's not gonna. work. because they're losers. to the bone these people are losers to.

the [ __ ] bone. the stench of human failure in this city. is so that you cannot breathe you cannot. inhale oxygen because the stench. of human failure infects. all of the air it is a grotesquery here. they do not know how to run a city the. food. is [ __ ] there's two places that make.

good barbecue and they're not terry. blacks. it's franklin in the barbecue and it's. nine hours. line to a blue-haired. tattooed lesbian can give you an. attitude. when you say can i add a sandwich to. that. people come here to get married like. this fool.

because it's cheap and you can get. married in some raft. you could float down a dirty river and. get. down syndrome drunk and take photos. to put on your facebook. he did have a beautiful wedding but the. point is this my point still stands. this is the bachelorette capital of the. south. it's drunk pig women. and men that have an itchy trigger.

finger just trying to shoot people. dancing around sixth street drunk. these people are out of their [ __ ]. minds. it's a [ __ ] rodeo of fat [ __ ] and. school shooters. everybody eating at the trough it has. nothing to do with music can we. say that now can you hear it loud and.

clear. this town has nothing to do. with music there are. heroin addicts that occasionally. do melodious things on the street. while they're after they take a [ __ ] in. the street. they play i don't know you are my. sunshine. or something you my uh you make me happy. when skies are gray. [Music].

it's nothing it's less than nothing. here there is no seafood there is no. fish. there is one sushi restaurant that joe. rogan mentioned and now you can't get in. until 2027. sandra bullock and matthew mcconaughey i. don't give a [ __ ]. i don't care that a couple of white. demon celebrities live here show you. white mouth.

what's funny about that is that i've. been very critical of the critical race. theory and yet i find in times. it is important to have in the pocket. this is what it is i tried. i played pickleball with a few. psychopaths. we met a few tech people we met a few. people. who when you looked in their eyes you. realized. that uh uh trouble was a bruin.

we met some of the masters of the. universe not the bankers. some of the uh you know silicon valley. cultists. who are colonizing the area who are here. because of no state income tax and their. love of baked beans. some of the libertarian wing of the tech. movement. some lovely people maybe not too bad. don't hate any of them i like being. afraid for my life.

during the afternoon i like that. i don't i don't think facial expressions. are necessary. i like people. that keep you on your toes but it's. time to go. and i don't want to discourage anyone. else from moving here it may. be your destiny to come here many of you. will be happier. floating down a route which by the way i.

tried to go to the swimming hole. you have to make a reservation for the. swimming hole. you can't even jump in the [ __ ] lake. without a reservation or the creek or. the crick whatever you call it i've had. about enough. i've had about enough. i can't work on caitlyn jenner's. campaign long distance i have to be. there.

i gave it four months and i'm not going. anywhere immediately this summer i'm. touring and then in the fall i start to. look and. who knows where we end up next maybe we. end up in dorado. puerto rico with the pauls and peter. schiff. here's to hoping but it's time. to go there was a mass shooting last. night 13 people were injured outside. the vulcan gas company the venue of the. moment. it's time to go i love joe joe's been. more generous to comics.

he's done so much for us we don't. deserve it he deserves happiness go and. be. happy and if he opens a club i will come. down here and work it and be thrilled to. do so. but right now it is time to go. this has been a fun experiment uh the. quarantine has been very interesting. i've made and lost friends i've made bad. decisions i've made good decisions. we've all done wild things uh. we've put ourselves into situations we.

never thought we'd be in. and we've taken ourselves out of. situations uh we never thought we would. get out of. our minds melted we uh you know kind of. went through the looking glass it was an. acid trip without having to take the. acid and it was not a good one it was a. bad one it was good for us. it was good for certain people you know. but the reality is that is over now and. for some people it'll never be over. they'll keep the masks. whatever let them let them do it fine. it's fine.

but it is now time to leave and and you. know bait it's gonna be a little tough. for ben ben will fly and do the show. every week. and you'll have to really kind of talk. to your wife. because it's going to be difficult but. we've suggested gaslighting her into. making her believe she. made us move here yeah that's an f. that's an option. you haven't told her yet no i i i will. before we put this out. you have not told her i have not told. her anything no not yet.

i told you you're renting your house out. that you bought but that's it. did she ask why she just i just said. that you were gonna make like. money on the income from the thing and. be cash positive did she say where would. he live. i said he was just thinking about. extending his rental here so you lied. yeah so you made it you made something. up. so far we're lying we're in the lying. stage. what does she want to do go downtown to. get a bottle thrown at her head.

is that what she wants to do does she. want to go play the accordion downtown. and get raped with a. bottle a glass bottle to her neck. it's chaos down there it's utter hell. and chaos. it's chaos down there okay it's sahara. yeah. la's big enough austin's not that big. also like seven square blocks and two of. them are hell. two of them are fallujah it's crazy. so what so to to do what so you can eat.

it. [ __ ] you know miss vicky's brisket. house who gives a [ __ ]. can we get the [ __ ] out of here please. can we get the [ __ ]. what the [ __ ] were we thinking can we. get the [ __ ] out of here please do i. want pickles and onions with it. no give me a ticket i'm leaving i'm. leaving. get the tattoo off your neck white demon. [Music]. i've had enough of a white homeless kids.

i'm out we're out of here. burn it to the ground sorry. the truth hurts as lizzo has said. there's parts of it that are nice. there's parts of it that are beautiful. not the city. the outskirts and those will be the. parts that get nice it's the marin. county thing here. they let san francisco go to [ __ ] and. the surrounding area. went skyrocketing that's what's gonna. happen here that's what i believe. but i believe comedically artistically.

for me for you for the show. for the future of what we have to do. this city. has tested me. it really has i i i don't get it. i don't get the charm here i don't get. what everybody else gets. i don't get what's fun about five fat. drunk [ __ ] from nashville. on sixth street drunk and falling down. shoving and then getting in a tub of.

macaroni and cheese. i don't get it look at the ban you wanna. hear. the band. not good we've covered it all we did the. text [ __ ]. we had lunch with a few people we we did. a few shows they were decent they were. fine. it's time to get out i don't even want. to do moon towers she didn't ask me to. do i don't want to do any of it. south by i went out of this town for a. long time for a goddamn long time here.

i went out of this town and i may rent. the house may just keep it it's fine. it's a beautiful little thing to have. it's not that expensive it's not i. didn't go nuts and buy a crazy thing. so it's all gonna work out but i mean we. do have to tell. you to tell your wife and then i'll have. to give you guys a bunch of money which. i have no problem doing. but you know it's it's unfortunate well. what do you feel about this be very. honest here because you got excited to. come back to texas. and it started worrying me because you.

and your wife started going to see. fiddle players. and you're like oh you should come see. the fiddle player with us and i got very. nervous because i said. this is everything you left to not be. somebody some [ __ ] some guy sitting. in a field listening to a fiddle player. i don't like uh the golf courses here i. don't like the food well that's nice. you don't like the golf not at all what. is the problem with it. i don't like link style courses right i. like uh i like a nicholas designed. course in l.a somewhere right.

shut up but that's it's important. it's important that there are things you. also don't like the food's trash. it's not good it's trash the people. the people it's like if every witch. from a disney movie got fat. it's like what happens to maleficent if. she starts a podcast. and eats 14 sandwiches a day. and dyes her hair blue she lives in. austin.

thought people should at least be. talented headlight on their feet. jackie gleason yours truly not these. lumbering soulless [ __ ]. vessels just barking at people. that's ableist. [Music]. they gotta go and i wish everyone the. best here. i do i do i wish everyone the bad i. cannot stress that enough. because as somebody who's invested in. austin real estate it is a great place. to live.

and that's what people forget is that it. is a great city. it's a great american city and i have a. lot of hope. for the future of austin and i i love it. here. and to leave kills me because the food. is great. as we've talked about and the people are. great. and i like it you know what i mean it's. not that bad yeah no. not at all so if you're thinking of. coming here. and renting or buying it's the place. it's the move.

because what i like about it is you have. a good balance of nature. and then also a thriving vibrant. metropolis. when you go to austin there's always. something to do. get followed by a homeless guy on the. way to go get a taco from a. dodge durango that's parked because. everybody eats food here out of a truck. you could do that you could catch a. stray bullet on sixth street. while walking back to your uber that. doesn't show up and if it does we'll.

kidnap you. there's a lot of benefits to this city. okay so i don't want to scare anyone. away. from it i have to be but this is a big. announcement. it's a big announcement it's a big deal. the fact that we're moving to dorado. with peter chef in the polls. no we're not we're not going to dorado. we're we're going and we're staying the. next place we go which is. california we're staying we're going to. los angeles we're staying we're going to.

stick it out it is what it is. i mean at the end of the day we really. tried here i tried. people said it was gonna last four. months and it lasted about four months. and. i'm not leaving immediately i'm on tour. i'm on the road and i've got things to. do. okay irs i'm here this year. i'm here this year. but next year you know and. the fall you know it's like it's tough. and i know that. you and your wife are happy here because. the dogs have a yard they're gonna have.

a yard in los angeles too. the dogs are disgusting i mean one of. them has. three legs and none of it matters so. it's all good i i know it's gonna be a. tough discussion to have are you nervous. about it. no no katie's uh ride or die. i understand that yeah yeah and she was. riding joe. is there a way we need to gaslight her. into thinking that she made us move here. because she has a crush on joe.

but we need we need to leave there's. there's nothing else to be said about it. i'm not performing at your bachelorette. party. no i'm not doing that no i don't care. about your wedding. ugh it's a college town. like without that many college kids yeah. you know i mean i just i just have to go. sorry i apologize.

you know at the end of the day i wish. nothing but the best. for the people that live here i hope. that it's only a flesh wound that's what. i'll say. but it's not for me i must go now. i must go back to an underprivileged. area. called beverly hills. where people are real and they struggle.

you understand where people have real. jobs. like i'm a sex slave slash. assassin pa on blackish. real jobs real people real america. i'm not excited to go back to california. there's a whole host of issues there. which caitlyn jenner will hopefully cure. but it's time to go it's time to leave.

austin texas the faces of the people. the faces of the people the insects that. crawl. god bless people trying to make this. into something. god i mean picture. picture someone you know who's been a. disaster their entire life drunk drug. addict in and out of rehab. thief just the worst person. maybe not a horrible soul but just steps.

on rakes their entire life. can't seem to get it going and then. imagine the most the winner the most. productive person you know. the most productive human being you've. ever met. wins every game gets the hot check. gets the money is a nice person. genuinely deserves it is generous. that person that you know the winner. the alpha the winner now.

is bringing the fat drug addict thief. out and going. this is the goal. this is the goal this and you're going. but that's they're a fat. drug addict thief i'm pretty sure like. looks up things on the dark web and the. winner goes no. no no no no no they're good. they're it's a much better they're a. much better quality of person. and you go i don't think so and the.

person is screaming as the winner goes. no no this person is good the person is. screaming. no i'm a fat mess i like it. i don't like good i hate good i never. want to be. good. food falls down on the floor starts. pissing themselves. heroin shooting heroin their fat arm. like. [Laughter]. and then the winner is like that's. pretty cool.

and you go what no that's pretty cool. that's a pretty cool. [Music]. we wish everyone the best we wish. everyone the best here. and i'm i'm just hoping. that it's been it's been it's made me. realize a lot of things living here. and uh culture really matters the. culture of a city matters miami's a. party. never turn miami in anything that's not. a party how dare you new orleans is also.

a fun party why ever turn that in. new york is a hectic uh race to nothing. leave it be that let it be this hectic. frenetic. pace to eventual you know death but. they like that it's necessary it. sharpens people it molds them into. something. 10 of them the rest of them who cares. but. l.a is is a den of sociopaths. narcissists. people that it's fake on a level it's so.

fake it's real. you're just talking to human volcanoes. as they stuff avocado toast. down their genetically engineered. throats into their plastic bodies. and then they go vomited up it's. important. just like new york is important just. like miami is important. just like austin being the den of. failures is important. being a place for losers a place for. those fat bachelorettes. to feel like they're going to the big.

city. big mama's in the city now. she's got her brisket and she's gonna. take a shot of so-called lime. and then they're gonna play her song. which is up by cardi b. and she's just gonna be like. and her brain her useless brain is just. gonna bounce around in her head. and she's gonna go and just this mass of.

flesh. this total waste of resources just. gyrating like a pig in the middle of the. street. while all her friends look at her and i. can't believe she's getting married. this thing is getting mad and she's. going to jar right in the street. because this is her three days to get. really [ __ ] up before she has to go. back to checking elderly people in for. the hysterectomies. and she's just like.

and then some mass shooter is going to. come out. and he's going to see this person going. and the smash shooter is going to look. at her and go you know. this mass shooter is going to say i'm. sorry joe rogan. i'm sorry comedy. i've got a bit too and he's gonna fire. wildly into the crowd. like a monster like a monster not good.

not condoning this and he's gonna hit. this fatty. and it will barely stop her she'll just. she'll feel it and she'll still. she'll get a little up and it's up and. it's up. and then her friends have to go you've. been shot. and then they put her on the gurney. [Music]. and then they bring her to the hospital. and then they extract this piece of. metal. out of her [ __ ] pulled pork filled.

flesh they extract this uh bullet from. her. and she's like and then her fiancee. calls her goes. i love you are you okay and she goes. i am okay i love you. and then she's got a story for the rest. of her life she's got a story. for the rest of her life and then she. goes on a little bit of workman's comp a. little disability can't go back to work. and and and then she goes back in a few.

years. to that place in austin she goes back. there. to see where a guy shot her in the leg. while she was gyrating to a cardi b's. up which they won't play anymore this. will be years later she'll have two fat. jalapeno popper sized children. and her husband who tries to drink. himself into a grave every night and. sometimes damn near succeeds. and they'll get out of whatever uber or. which vehicle austin permits at that. time and they'll get out and she'll go. that's where mommy got. shot and they'll take a photo where she.

got. shot they'll take a photo with that. bullet ripped through her [ __ ] flash. and she'll make it her profile picture. and she'll have some quote. she'll have some quote about that how. life is about appreciating the little. things. and she won't be a her quote because. she's [ __ ] [ __ ]. so she'll take it off some lifetime. movie of the week or some magnets she. saw at a friend's home. where she was getting juiced before her. kids got home from school. and she'll put that quote up and. there'll be a photo of where mommy got.

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uh who took a decidedly anti-israel view. as is her right. um and so we wanted to find somebody who. would come on and present the other side. um and we have barry weiss who has a uh. among other things a very good sense of. humor and uh. she is here with us to present. um i would imagine probably quite a. different view. from what abby has presented we're here. from the bitcoin conference. in miami barry by the way thank you for.

coming on and having a good sense of. humor we do give you a hard time. uh every now and then but we do. appreciate that you're willing to come. on the show we. we we think that's a good thing well the. mossad gave me a special dispensation to. be here they're. they're big fans big big fans wow yeah. i'm sure. i'm i'm sure they are so my my first. question for you would be what are we. what are we getting wrong right like the. the narrative that is um that that is. coming out. that most people are seeing is that you.

have uh. two groups um that are not matched uh. in any real way not in military uh might. not in economic power um uh. not in any type of power you have israel. which is it which is a strong. military um and you have. uh palestine which is i believe. two million or so people living in a in. a small area that don't really have. uh the military capable of.

of having what seems to it doesn't look. like a fair fight right it seems like. you have one side now all these words. are being thrown out like apartheid and. genocide and things like that. what is mainstream narratives getting. wrong because it does seem this less. conflict. the mainstream narrative seems to have. switched a little bit where people are. now seemingly more sympathetic to what's. going on. in uh palestine and the way i've always. looked at it seems like a very untenable.

unsustainable situation right it seems. like that. i'm sure that the pro-israel people. recognize that people that uh. don't agree with things israel has done. recognized that um. but what are people getting wrong about. this when we see. uh you know the the the bombing of. palestine when we see. um uh children being harmed and we uh. see that. palestinians are unable to access. medical supplies or. clean water or things like that what. about that or are we not.

kind of what are we missing. so i think two things one is history and. the second. is really the aperture of the lens that. you're using to look at the conflict. with. so let's start with the second thing. which is if you're looking at the. israeli-palestinian conflict like this. you're going to see exactly to some. extent him what you just described. you're going to see. israel as the goliath that has the. military power etc. and you're going to see palestinians as. having the the less strong hand.

but if you widen out and zoom out with. your lens. what you're going to see is an entire. region. filled with something like 22 arab and. muslim nations. and a jewish state the only jewish state. in the world. that is smaller than than new jersey. that state surrounded on all sides. the abraham accords aside and we can get. into that by people that. don't seek its borders to be shifted.

but that fundamentally seek its. destruction i think the thing that. people fundamentally get wrong. is that they think that this is a. conflict fundamentally about borders. it is not a conflict about borders it is. a conflict about whether or not. israel has a right to exist it is a. conflict. about zionism and anti-zionism it's a. conflict. about whether jews like every other. people has a right to self-determination. in this case in their native land or. whether or not they don't.

that is what the conflict is about. whether or not jews can have any. presence. in the region of the middle east at all. that's what this conflict is about and. so to go back kind of to. you know to to go back and watch the. abbey martin clip and of course i you. know defend her sacred right to. say that 911 was an inside job and. everything else that she says but. well there's a lot about 911 we don't. know whether it's an inside job or not i. mean it's not there's a lot we don't. know. we covered for saudi arabia for years we.

really. then we said we released a 911. commission report the people on the 911. commission reports that it was set up to. fail. i mean these are direct quotes so i mean. it's not i understand that. no one's saying jews did 9 11 or. whatever i know some people are. well some people are some people are but. there's a lot we don't know there's a. lot we weren't dealt with honestly about. 911 we went and attacked iraq. you know so okay well okay that was a. throwaway line. i understand what you mean like yeah. what i meant to say is that.

you know everyone has the right to their. own positions but. i'm not going to sit here and listen. while people. spew lies and there's a giant lie that's. being told right now about israel and it. has. incredible power right now especially on. the far left. and that lie goes like this the jews. are white people they are. ethnocolonialist nationalists. who dropped into a foreign exotic land. with which they have no connection and.

since 1948 when they plopped into this. land. they have systematically taken that land. from the indigenous brown population of. palestinians. and indeed more than that they're. bloodthirsty. they're warmongers and they won't stop. until they've. you know immiserated the people around. them and the problem with this is that. absolutely none of it is true it is a. fantasy projection. created by people with small brains who. have an attention span the length of a.

tick tock video. you know the jews aren't let's start. with the jews aren't white. the jews are from the middle east the. jews. go back to the middle east for three. thousand years. that is the reality the jewish people. precedes the modern conceptions that we. have of. race and of religion okay they were a. tribe they were the. judeans they were the judaized living in. judea. and the jewish presence in what we now. call the land of israel or the palestine.

that goes back all the way back to. to that period way before jesus was ever. around. the jews themselves were colonized. speaking of colonization. they were colonized by the romans they. were colonized by the byzantines they. were colonized by the crusaders by the. ottomans. and finally by the british and you know. just to. give people a little bit of historical. perspective what is palestine what is. that name. the romans renamed the region syria. palestina. after the philistines to kind of give a.

middle finger to the jews that they had. pushed. out as a way of punishing the jews. because the philistines were their. mortal enemy. so it's like you know when israel. sort of miraculously and i think this is. what makes it such a hard story for. people to understand. most indigenous populations are screwed. over. they never get a chance to return to. their land but israel got that chance. after the holocaust. in 1948 1947 1948. and basically the u.n comes to the.

jewish people. and says we are and and the arabs living. in the region. and says here is the partition plan. essentially the jews get half the. muslims get half and not the muslims the. jews get half the arabs get half. and the jews said great and their. motivation for saying great was they. weren't going to get anything else. and in totally real politic terms it. makes sense that the palestinians said. no. but then they said no again after every. single. offer to split the land and and i think. that that is really.

what it's about in the end do jews have. any right to have any self-determination. in any piece. of their indigenous land or not and by. the way it's. not it's not to say that you know given. that. like little history that i just swept. you through the crusades and everything. else like is there a long-standing. palestinian connection to the land. and muslim connection to the land yes of. course there is is there a long-standing. christian connection. of course there is right the question is. only do we also acknowledge.

that the jews have a connection to that. land or not and that to me is what. everything is about. is there room for an argument or a. debate where people say we completely. understand. israel's right to exist we support. israel's right to exist. but the expansive nature of a lot of the. policies. and maybe netanyahu himself as being. somebody who is uh you know has. certainly. uh put more of a right-wing face. on uh policies and the bulldozing of the.

settlements. and evicting people from their homes is. there a space for people to. argue like listen we think israel should. exist. but you know as a as a expect. because when you say colonial power i. think part of what gives that argument. credence in people's minds is that the. borders of israel don't seem to be fixed. they constantly seem to keep expanding. and israel keeps evicting people from. their homes and. there there there is that that is.

what most people regard as a colonial. um you know posturing from israel it's. not like. okay here are the borders and we're done. and i'm sure it's. you know there's some complexities there. but that's why p. like you said people are saying israel. is a colonial state. but it seems like they're that they're. not finished like the borders aren't. uh you know rock solid that they're. expanding and taking. more and more territory and some people.

fear that they're taking. they want all the territory right so is. there a space to criticize bibi. netanyahu. 100 i'll do it right now i did it often. in the pages of the new york times. is there a place to oppose settlements. and settlement expansion in the west. bank. of course i oppose them i do that all. the time what what this is about. again is fundamental existence and let. me just give you an example of that in. 2005. israel pulled out every single jew every. single israeli that lived in the gaza.

strip every single one. left all of the infrastruct the hot. houses behind etc. what happens then it's not that there is. a. flourishing you know singapore uh on on. in the gaza strip could have been. possible tons of money flowed into gaza. instead what there is is a piece of land. in proxima and rocket proximity to the. center of israel. run by a group that says in its charter. that their goal is not two states that.

their goal. is to exterminate every single jew this. is from their charter there is no. solution to the palestinian question. except through jihad the day of judgment. will not come about until the muslims. fight jews and kill them. then the jews will hide behind the rocks. and trees and the rocks and trees will. cry out oh muslim. there's a jew hiding behind me come and. kill them that's not just in the. founding it's also in these videos that. i pulled for you. that i don't think many people see so. maybe we want to play the one. about with the hamas senior official.

talking about. we'll do that now and we'll we'll add. that in post.

and then there's a second video where. the mother. of uh palestinian martyr as as they. would call him. talks about the jews and says may their. hearts be ripped out. may their eyes be gouged out.

so that is what happened when israel. pulled out of the gaza strip. now you have the situation where israel. is occupying the west bank. and it's a horrible situation and i. oppose it the problem is is that. just from a purely like.

existential perspective given what. happened when israel pulled out of the. gaza strip. there is an understandable fear and if. you want to understand why. so many israelis feel torn about this. their fear is okay what happens if we. pull out of the west bank. and there is another hamas terrorist. statelet at our other border. and the mid point of israel is like a. mile wide. that's an existential problem and so you. have a tension. where obviously continuing to occupy.

another. people that you know like i believe. in a two-state solution i believe in the. palestinian right to self-determination. just as i believe in the jewish one. period but you have to understand. where that fear is coming from and why. israel doesn't just. unilaterally pull out of the west bank. as they did in gaza. you know 15 years ago right better help. better. atlp i'll tell you right now there's no. better place to get online counseling it. is fast. start communicating with a licensed. professional in under 48 hours.

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secular. option right in terms of you know of the. different. factions of people that israel could. negotiate with why. were was israel kind of demonizing the. plo. is is there a hope again that. because when you say the other side is. hamas i don't know if hamas represents. all palestinians right oh no no let me. be extremely clear. the palestinians in gaza are living. under hamas occupation. understood but right but isn't it.

because they can't. leave and it's not a functional state so. there's. nothing let me just finish that i want. to be like. super clear about in the same way that i. would make a distinction between the. chinese communist party. and the average chinese person right of. course i would make a distinction. between. you know dictatorial totalitarian. leaders. who throw gay people off buildings right. and. like and and actual people who live in. miserated lives because of them.

and the average palestinian what do i. think they want i think they want a good. life. i think they want the exact same thing. that anyone else wants of course i think. is that yeah is my my question is like. who can israel negotiate. i mean now i guess it is hamas but how. can there be. any like there's a ceasefire now uh. netanyahu is out there's a new. government being formed now. is there a new yeah is there a new one.

sorry i didn't mean to interrupt you. it's hard to like read you with the. glasses. i was gonna say there's this new. coalition government right with. with an arab party in the coalition. like this is a historic thing that's. just happened in israel for the first. time ever. this rama party i think it's called and. do you think is the hope. that there will be uh you know. something in the in the way of a. two-state solution being discussed. because. that seems the only possible.

solution you have yes and i think. love trump or hit or hate trump the. reality is. did anyone 10 years ago ever think that. israel would sign a historic peace offer. with countries like. qatar and the uae and saudi arabia that. there would be flights from tel aviv to. abu dhabi like the world is changing the. region is changing. and i think what's happening. increasingly you know whatever you think. of those countries is that.

israel is increasingly being accepted. like that it's not going away and that's. the key to peace. if the if palestinian leadership can. accept that. israel's just not going to go away it's. not going to. erase itself out of existence that's. where peace comes and i think. you see that and to me like that was an. enormously. huge seismic shift that happened in the. middle east the fact of this. new coalition government the fact that. you know like.

20 and i'm not sure people understand. this 20. of israeli citizens are israeli arabs or. palestinians. like 22 of israel's mit the technion. is made up of israeli arabs they're in. knesset they win reality tv shows like. this is such a like there is just such a. gap. between reality and the kind of things. that you see from bella hadid's. instagram feed. about what's actually going on there and. frankly i would love to take you maybe.

maybe abby martin would want to come too. um to to give people a sense of. what's really happening there because. like so many things in the legacy press. there's just an enormous gap between. reality and this kind of like. american parochial fantasy projection. and i'm sure that it is reality shows it. being won and there's it is all love and. light. but when you shell when you shell. the associated press building.

i mean that's not a great thing right. can we agree with that. shelling anything is tragic. killing people right yes what do you of. course. right but it's it's especially that it's. a press building. and it seems like you have a country. trying to intimidate the press when they. do that. tim tim israel's had to shell hospitals. israel's had to shell schools why. because hamas's strategy is for innocent.

people to get killed. i know that it's very hard for like. coddled american brains to understand. this. but like it is not hamas's goal. to protect its population right it's. hamas's goal to let its people. suffer and die that is why it launches. rockets. from literally inside hospitals and. kindergartens. right that's that's the reality and so. like what do you do. right if you are and israel has gone to. like insane degrees.

to try and mitigate against innocent. people getting killed but it's. it's horrible and they're and it's like. you look at the stories of these. children and it's. it's it's horrible there's like there's. no. the full stop that's it but it's like we. have to look at. why they're in that situation right. well i mean it's it's it's tough i hope. that there's. some solution to it. um that you know upholds the dignity of. people i mean.

when you see the way the people living. in palestine that's not. i think a sustainable thing and most. people i think. looking at this would say it's not. sustainable you know and right. yeah i i can i completely agree with you. that's why i support a two-state. solution. that's why i think that the sooner. palestinian leadership can accept. israel's existence the closer we'll get. to peace. why don't the christians go back i mean. didn't we i mean. isn't this time to start listening to.

the christians my people. is it not time to start you ready for. another crusades. i am a little bit i mean don't we think. it's time now to realize. that the other religions have had a time. but the christians are kind of still the. we're the we're the ones you guys are. the kings well. i mean am i wrong that seems. i mean we've never done it the. christians we just behave we have dinner. i mean i think you need to go back to. your crusader history here's what i'll.

say. the i mean this is again like one of. those stories that's enormous and that. no one has talked about. there has been a systemic purge of. christians. from the middle east over the past. several years yes coptic christians in. egypt yes i know that yes. there's like no christians left in the. middle east you know where there's. christians. in israel palestinian christians there's. no. christians in gaza like right like. so again like as imperfect as israel is. like i think people need to have a.

little perspective when it's clearly a. more. tolerant society to live in that's a. fact. and where are people who are fleeing. gays fleeing persecution in the west. bank going for refuge they're going to. tel aviv they're going to israel. right so it kind of it's a little. sorry if i sound impassioned it boggles. my mind a little bit. to hear people who identify themselves. as progressives. and liberals sort of overlooking. like the immigration of muslim.

minorities across the. of muslims across the world uyghurs in. china. 500 000 palestinian ref palestinians who. live in refugee camps in lebanon. and who are not allowed certain jobs. they interviewed a palestinian guy two. days ago. palestinian born in kuwait built a. hummus empire in minneapolis amazing. story. why did he leave kuwait because he was a. palestinian he told me he's a third. class citizen. can't get into university went to.

elementary school in the second half of. the day because he's palestinian. it's like somehow only when israel or. the jews are involved. do we care about the lives of muslims. and arabs and palestinians and i think. that that is something that deserves a. closer look. [Music]. clearly or and i'm not saying you're.

saying it does. but i know that it it's been difficult. for them and yes they experienced. the arab world is rife with sectarian. conflicts where everyone hates each. other right i mean that's not. that's not new i just think that there's. got to be some. decision about where israel's borders. are and i think the constant expansive. nature of the policy. and the settlements in the west bank and. kind of what seems like it's a. a policy that's kind of based on. agitation. and that to the outside viewer to.

somebody like me who's again. not a big stake in the game here i look. at that and i go. that when you see people getting evicted. from their homes. and i know that ben shapiro is saying. that it was you know. a bill coming due from years and years. ago or whatever it's a contract. the sheikh jura thing i tried to. understand i watched him three times it. was a. contract somebody getting back it just. does it seems. yeah yeah but but all you need to like. just make it super basic. yeah the shake the shake giraffe thing.

yeah i don't support what israel was. doing but it was about six homes. watch those clips from hamas what's it. about i understand. but i think it's like when it's six. homes six. families six groups of people it just. blows up. think about america and how many. movements have been started about. you know one interaction with police. that's gone wrong. so even though it's six homes i think. that there's like you know. the power of media and the power of. everything it it. it's i think it exemplifies the issue to.

people. i don't think yeah but but you're saying. the power of media you have to ask. yourself. why is there this obsession with this. conflict. why is there an obsession with this. conflict to the exclusion of. everything else well because it's so. long-standing. i know that you would say it's because. of anti-semitism it's a bed in china. no i'm just saying like it's not that. long-standing it's pretty long-standing. right it's about since i mean depending.

on how you count but you could say it's. from 48 or 67. in the scope of like ongoing wars in the. world. it's not that law i mean it's terrible. it's horrible i think it's the. occupation is. eating at the soul of israel's democracy. like i have no problem saying that. but you you have to wonder like why is. there this. absolute and utter fixation with this. tiny economy. america is very supportive of israel. right so you have.

any conflict in the middle east you have. america getting drawn into it. on on in terms of narrative like america. has to make a decision america has been. incredibly supportive of israel. um you know when trump moves the embassy. to jerusalem it just becomes a massive. news story because it is america it's an. american president doing it. and yes there's anti-semitism out there. and people do fixate on things. because of anti-semitism but this seems. to be it's about the fact that america. is so. supportive of israel's actions.

that i think it makes the story bigger. than it. might necessarily otherwise be. but it's like you're constantly hearing. about let's say american foreign aid. it's like america gives. tens of billions of dollars in foreign. aid to countries all over europe to. egypt all over the middle east and like. there's this obsession on israel the. reason to him that i'm. interested in that is like that. demonization that is so beyond criticism.

has actual effects in the lives of jews. in this country of course. yeah like like when a caravan of people. waving palestinian flags. drives through west hollywood and pulls. up to a sushi restaurant and says. who's a jew and then beats the [ __ ] out. of people or where a caravan of cars. in the uh jewish neighborhood in london. drives through and says [ __ ] the jews. and rape their daughters like yes. that's why i'm that's why i care about.

this so much right i don't. i care about this like israel's going to. do it israel's. its own country that's a foreign. conflict the reason it matters so much. to so many american jews beyond you know. the fact that for many reasons. is because the way people talk about. israel. has incredible ramifications on jews all. over the world. should it be constitutional though to. boycott israel if you want to. the bds movement like it seems to be. your free speech.

person is it weird to mandate that. american citizens have. a responsibility to not boycott the. actions of a foreign country. like those i think what you're referring. to are these bills that. that say that there is. you know boycott divestment yeah yeah. but what the bills say. is that americans america that states. and governments won't do contracts with. businesses. that support bds just in the way that.

america that. states have contracts that say we won't. do business. with companies that support you know a. white supremacist organization it's. like what is bds about it does a college. student have a right to stand up and say. boycott israel 100 does that be martin. have a right to go on youtube and say. that and should her. video be not be taken down 100 but like. let's be clear about what bds is bds is. a movement. not about palestinian rights not about. creating a palestinian state. not about opposing the israeli.

occupation of the west bank. it's about the eradication of the state. of israel and the question is whether or. not you think that that policy itself. is anti-semitic in effect if not an. intent. well a hundred a hundred percent is is. anti-semitic if that's what the the. policy is. it is sure but shouldn't you be let's. say. somebody says hey i don't believe that. israel or the united states or whatever. country has the right to exist because. of the way it was founded.

right do you stifle that person's right. to speak even though i think it's a. ridiculous thing do you stifle that. person's right to speak. and i my answer would be no my answer is. also no. what i think is important to add to it. though is. is what bds is about i i think people. really don't get it most people who are. supporting bds. like young people or you know that think. they're anti-zionist think they're just. supporting the underdog. no what bds is about is the elimination.

of the largest jewish community. on planet earth that's it miami and. that's okay. the uh are they trying to they're. they're they're right now they're trying. to get rid of my happiness. i was gonna wear like a uh like a boca. lady outfit for you you should have well. listen. where can people support you and find. you now because i know you left the new. york times did you leave or did they get. you it was a thing right you just said. it's time for me to go. i i jerry mcguired myself out of there. right yeah. yeah was it weird to work there where. people people were.

hostile to you openly towards the end. oh some people were hostile openly in. the beginning but yes. right okay yeah all right it wasn't. it was it was uh it was not the middle. east but it was a hostile. situation and you know like you talk. about a lot on your show. there's there's i think that the most. interesting independent voices right now. are. on the outside and not the inside of. these institutions and i wanted to leave. so that i could.

be free to tell the truth which is the. reason i became a journalist to begin. with. right where can people support me yeah. they can support me at um. on my newsletter it's. barryweiss.substack.com. and i'm going to be launching a podcast. in a few days and i know that you're. going to be doing lunch that day. or in no we just would cancel you just. because we made a joke about you so we. said. barry west will definitely cancel the. podcast but the fact. that you haven't it's i'm we're shocked. you're shocked i mean i don't know i. don't hang out with journalists and i.

don't know these people. yeah i just know that we make fun of. katie herzog all the time and katie. always comes on. we do like katie herzog a lot well katie. herzog uh has. an amazing series going on right now on. my newsletter. about um the spread of the illiberal. ideology. in the world of medicine and there's an. absolutely bananas. up there today it's not good it's not. good. people should read it and uh no i'm a. huge fan i mean as you know my favorite. even though you go after me and various.

other people. uh i freaking loved. the segment on the airbnb lesbians which. i have watched. several times they i'm still banned and. you know it's uh you want to talk about. israel-palestine this is another. long-standing conflict of which there. will be no two-state solution. and i feel like i'm the. the people that are you i don't know i. mean i i feel like. they have they feel like i have the. power and they feel like.

and they i feel like they have the power. so. nobody really i just i was thrown off. airbnb. i literally you actually were banned for. me i'm banned we have to use ben's. account i stay in hotels. most of the time anyway but like you. know it's it's crazy and it's not even a. deep platforming discussion you can. enter into. because nobody has any sympathy when. you're thrown off airbnb it's not like. you would throw off twitter. or anything people are just like they. think you're like unsanitary or. something and. and again lesbians shouldn't be.

decorating homes this is the reality. in the same way that gay men shouldn't. be doing certain things and it's a. natural conflict between gays and. lesbians but. you know maybe they will they'll come on. and we'll we'll talk it out with them i. don't know if you know them they're very. stylish. i i would love to broker that camp david. accord. on this show as as someone that you know. identifies with parts of who they are. parts of who you are i feel like i can. be. switzerland in that situation well we. hope well we thank you again barry i.

know the week was tough. barry weiss.substack.com. uh you can subscribe to barry's. newsletter that's out there and support. what she's doing. and we appreciate for coming on and now. no one can get angry. because we've had everybody on uh except. the. real winners the christians who should. be giving the whole area back. because we're the people who've never. done anything to anyone. that's the truth that's the truth. christians have become the people to.

really. be to rely on in my in my uh we have. like a nice we have like a whole. it's too much with the jews and the. arabs all the time bring the christians. in let's do the easter. it's nice for everyone barry weiss thank. you. thank you very much we appreciate it.