#254 - Apocalypse Olympics with Abby Martin | The Tim Dillon Show

ladies and gentlemen welcome to the tim. dillon show happy memorial day and. thanks everyone uh for your service. um what does memorial day mean to you. so much so much correct. now the olympics are. happening in tokyo what we think. i'm we i'm wheezing when i go to breathe. i don't know what that is but it's not.

i it would make a lot of sense if i got. this right at the end. like after i've been vaccinated a month. after this is all over i just dropped. dead. like i made it through the entire thing. i went on the road. i was not taking it seriously i barely. wore a mask. finally get vaccinated memorial day. everything opens back up. i dropped out of it when it's not even a. news story.

it's not even in the top five news. stories i just. pass away from covid. tokyo is learning that the only force. stronger than a pandemic. is the olympics. olympic organizers say games must go on. tokyo is getting hit. in japan the population has turned. against the olympics. one poll found a whopping 83 percent. opposes staging the games this summer.

83 percent nevertheless. japanese prime minister yoshida suga. tokyo organizing community president. seiko hashimoto. and international olympic committee. president thomas bach. insist that the show must go on. he goes ioc the olympics committee their. spokesman mark adams went as far to say. we listen. but won't be guided by public opinion. that should be.

the quote of of of everyone in power. anywhere we listen. but we won't be guided by public opinion. we're listening. but that's where it ends it ends at. listening. um so they have a state of emergency. happening right now because of coven and. hospital capacity is a problem. and they're in some other some type of.

lockdown i believe and they're gonna do. the olympics um there's also. militarized security measures including. surface-to-air missiles. ratcheted to the roof of an apartment. complex defend of terrorist attacks. that's nice. they want you know olympics brings in a. lot of money. for i they had they were thinking about.

la for the olympics in a few years and. everybody was like. no because they had to move the homeless. people for the academy awards and they. got upset they go well. can you only imagine what will happen. to the homeless in la if you have the. olympics. i say let them compete but no one has. thought of that compromise um. first of all and i'm wearing glasses now. because the lights we're in the middle. of getting a new studio here and the.

light the lights are so. oppressive that they hurt my eyes and. i'm getting ready for the miami bitcoin. conference. uh don't even want to tell you who we. have it is so. um monumental and it's going to be wild. uh. guests we have several guests. several of them are trying to pull out. as we speak because we're handing others. and we don't know we're it's a real. behind the scenes. you know musical chairs up there to see. who's gonna sit with us.

at the main stage uh when saturday. saturday at 4 15. saturday 4 15 the main. stage of the convention. tim dillon show podcast with. guests um. [Music]. so this is interesting first of all the. way i have. felt about when is the last time you. watched the olympics. oh man probably phelps right do adults. still watch the olympics does anyone. care. can we stop pretending that this matters.

in anyone's life this is not. diplomacy anymore like this idea that. it's like it's sportsmanship. and it's diplomatic and it helps. international relations to have people. it it does it. is do the palestinians have a delegation. in the israeli and that's going to. matter. if israel and palestine play volleyball. is that really gonna matter. i understand at a time potentially but.

right now i think things are at the. point now where. no one cares anymore about this. adults do not watch from what i mean. children watch it my dad and me used to. watch it. we used to watch uh the olympics because. people had fun names like peek-a-boo. street. that skiing or or there was a speed. skater named hey chavo. we liked that um and you'd watch it with. you you know i'd say they were my dad. and we'd eat haagen-dazs ice cream.

and and uh and fast food and we'd watch. the olympics. um and then you know they would have all. these inspiring stories. of people but the stories now have. gotten so hellish. they've gotten so disturbing. that and first of all have you ever met. anyone that. like got close to the olympics or. qualified for the olympics. and went and didn't place like these are.

the most. destroyed people you'll ever meet like. my friend's sister. like went to the olympics in volleyball. like nothing happened. and she just i mean the woman is a wreck. she's just like a tall beanstalk of a. woman. and we'll we'll tell people like she. went to the olympics but. nothing nothing came out of it so it's. it's it's only nice if you're winning a. medal truly. otherwise and.

it used to be like oh you know. she was the youngest of six kids and she. used to ski. going down the stairs like they were. like heartwarming stories. about the olympians like she used to put. on you know. she used to take her brothers uh you. know uh. skateboard and pretend that they were it. was a snowboard and she would go down. the stairs and. and then she became the greatest skier. now. the story's because life has gotten. harrowing.

the stories are so horrible now that. you're not you. you're just worried about the people. that are in the olympics it's like too. much of a pressure cooker. bring up that article i told you about. this this article. listen to this by the way this is listen. to this. this is the title of the cnn article. depression drove her close to suicide. now olympian raven saunders wants to. quote. destigmatize mental health um and.

and good for her but the idea that. she was close to suicide and then she. discovered the shot put. is troubling. since returning from the 2016 rio. olympics her mental health had spiraled. sitting at the wheel of her car her mind. was now drawn to a dark place. from which there seemed to be no return. as she circled past a drop-off along the. mississippi highway. the urge to veer off the road towards. the towering trees.

below was almost overwhelming this is. nice huh. this will be a nice montage they do. just have her sitting in her car they'll. recreate it they're like. can you take us through the route where. you thought about driving off the. highway. we want to film it we want to have like. a little compilation before you go up. and and lose. it was like no one really understood the. pain and the challenges i was going. through saunders who placed fifth in the. shot put. this is what i mean if they if if they.

go. and it doesn't happen it's curtains. it got worse and worse and worse and. worse till it all boiled over. i remember in the morning just going. through the motions kind of being in a. daze. having things to do but not really. having any motivation. or any care to really get anything done. then hopping in my car and driving and. looking at that spot. a few months before saunders had. considered how the chances of survival.

would be slim. if someone was to drive off the edge of. the same drop off she now circled past. however it was an impromptu text to a. former therapist really a last-ditch. effort. that saved her life she soon received a. response. was it better help providing her with. the re. assurance and courage to go home and get. the help she. needed today she's. preparing for the olympic trials in june. with the prospect of her. second olympics looming she wants to.

quote destigmatize mental health. and help others who like her can get. caught up in cycles. of depression and anxiety so these are. the. types of stories you're going to hear. at the tokyo olympics i mean if you. think i mean there's not going to be any. more. cute like you know. stories where it was like you know this. athlete.

you know we always knew they were. special it's gonna be like. i wanted to hang myself. and then i decided that my only hope. was [ __ ] synchronize swimming. i had an eating disorder for many years. where i would vomit up everything that i. ate. but then i realized that that positioned. me perfectly. to be a synchronized swimmer and and i.

like it because only my legs. show and the rest of my body's in the. water because i still can't look at. myself. without wanting to purge but i can look. at my feet. and those are the only things that come. out of the water i keep them perfectly. pointed. i mean get ready for the tragedy. like you have never i mean. it's going to be and it used to be like. they were athletes. and it was like you know great athletes. that had like worked their entire lives. at being athletes now it's just going to.

be people. who you you're worried about and you. don't think they should. you actually go we don't think you. should go we don't think you should do. this. like after i read that i go i don't know. if you should do this. this might what happens if you lose. again. what happens if she comes in and this. time she comes in seventh. it's back to the car isn't it. that's a problem she's gonna be driving. on that same.

[ __ ] stretch of highway. it's gonna be sad and now with kovid. i mean there's gonna be like some. memorial in japan. to cove which people are still dying of. covert by the way yeah osaka is getting. yeah they're getting ravaged so what. they're gonna do is like you know like. if they're just gonna like they're just. gonna release like. you know those lanterns into the air and. one represents everybody. who is still in a hospital bed.

it's gonna be it's gonna be very strange. olympics. i think we don't need it we can skip it. who believes no one believes that. they're gonna be in the olympics by the. way. like no one gets like very few people. get into the olympics. nobody like my mother was a swim coach. and i think a few of those people got to. the olympic trials it's. very very tough to get into the actual. olympics it doesn't. motivate anybody it might.

you know but i just don't think it. it matters anymore it doesn't really. matter anymore and i don't i don't. remember the last time anyone i know. said did you see the olympics i don't. care i don't root for america i don't. care who wins. i don't really care i mean that's the. other thing does anyone give a [ __ ]. if your country beats another country. no one really cares anymore.

we've gotten soft here we're probably. gonna lose and aren't these people all. junked up anyway aren't these a bunch of. drug addicts. i mean they have to they have to test. them like nine times. to make sure they're not like skin. popping. steroids in the locker room right before. they get in the pool. aren't these little junkies anyway i. mean we've just created a race of. junkies to perform these people some of.

them have natural talent but. but everybody's doping. that's what the olympics is it's a bunch. of it's. it's like a bunch of lab rats doping. and i don't i don't get inspired by it. is my point. i'm uninspired by the olympics i don't. need it. and i don't know why you need it. but it's it's a it's an antiquated idea. i understand that people think it's.

important but it's not. just leave it alone that's my. take on it i don't need to see a bunch. of drug addicts. run around and do hurdles i can skip. that and i think you should too. and i don't need all the stories about. she was raised by a single mother in the. bayou. you know and now she does. hurdles good. good moving on like i just don't.

i don't need that it's going to be. and here's the other thing about. destigmatizing mental health you know. i'm let me say this at the risk of. offending anyone. can we de-stigmatize people who aren't. mentally ill. because i believe they are getting a lot. of pushback right now. in society the people who are not insane. i feel like are having a much tougher. time of it. mentally ill people.

and not real mental illness like my. mother has like schizophrenia. but i mean mentally ill seems to. kind of be a little bit of a benefit in. certain industries. certainly the one i'm in can we perhaps. destigmatize people who. don't want to kill themselves is that. okay. is it okay that someone doesn't want to. kill themself. anymore can we destigmatize. that experience in life people who.

don't want to take their car and drive. it off a road. do you think they have anything. interesting to add. everything now is about destigmatizing. mental health which i don't even know. what that means how about. funding it fun give give it funding. and help people that are insane i don't. know what destigmatizing mental health. means. and they're rarely talking about like. schizophrenia or multiple personality. disorder. it's always anxiety and depression it's.

never. any of the serious real bipolar. it's always anxiety and depression which. can be real and can be serious. but also there's a lot of people that. are diagnosing themselves off of. instagram. and they really have no idea what they. have uh. they're fetishizing mental illness it's. becoming their identity. and uh they're leaning into it and this. is i am a person that understands this. because i have a mother who's seriously.

mentally ill. like real mentally ill like not like she. doesn't have a twitter. they're not doing a profile her and uh. in rolling stone chris gathered. like she's actually mentally ill it's. not like a way to just. put a bunch of young kids in a room and. make money on them. just she's got an actual problem so. that's my concern only my concern is. that. but no it'll be fun get me some uh get.

me some. uh inspirational olympic style music. okay. i wanna i wanna read this again with. some inspirational. olympic i just love on youtube tim. dillon discusses birds. oh from that that was a good idea i. don't even remember sex traffickers when. the bird was screaming outside. yes um olympic sport music free no. copyright. there was not a day that went by that.

she didn't feel like taking her car. and driving it off the road she imagined. the sweet release of being plunged into. sub-zero freezing water. she had read she would only survive for. 60 seconds and that was okay with her. as she could feel the water literally. choking her. her body all of her extremities losing. feeling as she slipped into the darkness. which she called home the final comfort. her.

final resting place as she thought about. taking that. sweet barrel of a gun and putting it. right in her mouth. blowing her brains out of the back of. her head not one day went by. when she didn't think of lighting her. house on fire and. locking herself in the sweet smell of. her burned flesh. signifying that her earthly race had. been run. but then she discovered. pole vaulting and that changed her life.

his mother and father raped him. constantly. they would they would they would sell. him to other pedophiles in the community. when he was a young boy he learned. a deep sense of shame after killing both. of his parents and then being. and then being sentenced to a juvenile. hall for only three years. because of the heinous nature of their. crimes against him.

he finally started running ironically. something he should have done years. before. he ran and ran he jumped over hurdle. he finally found his sister his. long-lost sister later in life. and she raped him and that gave him the. strength. to pursue his dreams of running and. jumping over hurdles and now he is here. to compete in the tokyo coveted games.

this is a very inspiring story. this young girl for many many years. was a nazi. raised in a small quiet suburban town in. georgia. she discovered the alt-right at a young. age she started live streaming. started asking questions about jewish. people and the shapes of other people's. skulls. for many years she became a [ __ ] poster.

she fought against misogyny in the. alt-right online community. for many years establishing herself. as one of the preeminent [ __ ] poster. trolls. in the neo-nazi gaming community. then she left all that behind. to swim at the tokyo games. no longer a nazi though not really. comfortable with. everyone different races we did observe.

that she was a little weird. but she's here now leaving all that. behind. to be an olympian what she was destined. to be. we are investigating an incident where. there was a swastika in the pool locker. room. we're not accusing her but we're not. we're not exactly. exempting her either but that's what. you're gonna get. at the olympics this year it's just. gonna be a horror. beyond human comprehension and you're. just gonna have to sit there and go.

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code tim dylan to save five dollars off. your sorrow. thank you magic spoon but god love. everybody. friends did a reunion which was uh. completely unnecessary. but friends was the biggest show when we. were growing when i was growing up i. forget you're younger than me. look at that hoodie everybody are you. nuts not getting that. fakebiz.net can you move the.

there it is sit down. when i was growing up i was into frasier. because it was a smarter show and it was. better written. but then you had your seinfeld people. uh you had your frasier people you had. friends people. i would occasionally watch friends but i. never. cared about it french is a very. interesting time capsule of new york. city because. you know they lived in these big. apartments it wasn't even realistic. during the time but it was. more realistic than it would be now or.

like you have this well maybe not now. rent is dropped but you know you had. these massive apartments where people. lived there and it was like somebody was. an actor. somebody worked at a coffee house it was. like how's this happening and they never. met a black person. well they they had there were a few. black guest stars but it was it was. that's. the they get uh flack. for the lack of diversity um. but then they had a reunion which i. didn't watch but um.

people were saying that the reunion. disappointed them because. i mean this this is where people are. people are so miserable right now. that if there's any like outpouring of. joy people go wait a minute. why isn't this being tempered with a. little bit of. misery why aren't people being made. being made to feel uncomfortable. why is everyone happy that's really what. a lot of this comes down to is people. are just. completely disgusted with the idea that. other people. might be happy for a period of time.

without introducing. uh something horrific and. people were upset that uh the cast of. friends was not. castigated more for their. problematic moments which by the way. none of them are really problematic like. when you look at. the things that they're upset with. friends with the show. for example in this article which is. should we forgive friends for feeling a. little offensive. um if you go down here.

they said that they said that. chandler was homophobic because they. would have these gay panics where. uh basically you know. uh chandler and jo like they would be. like. um you know do i look gay or do i seem. gay or whatever which is by the way. that's not homophobic for straight guys. to. think right i mean i i i don't think. that's. inherently homophobic for a straight guy.

to go do i seem gay right now. because if the goal is to hook up with. women then maybe seeming gay isn't. the greatest idea i mean. now no one seems gay or straight people. are genderless drones but. i mean i don't think it's inherently. homophobic for somebody to go do i look. gay and maybe they want to look. i mean maybe you know gay can be a. compliment many in many. uh ways the way people look not not the. way i dress but. gay people are usually very in shape and. fashionable but.

i the idea that he that he goes hey. maybe i look gay that it's homophobic. also friends was insanely progressive. like you know. ross with the two lesbians i forget. or his ex-wife or whatever chandler's. dad. was a drag queen and one of the jokes. they're upset about is when chandler. um chandler says his dad opens the door. in like full drag and chandler. chandler goes hi dad and the joke is. like. great this is my dad so here they go.

today it is a bit. jarring to see chandler greet turner his. father. in full makeup in a dress with a. sardanic hi. dad followed by a laugh track. why i don't understand. if your dad is in full drag it is at the. very least in most cases. not what you expected can we say that. and when he answers the door he goes hi. dad like great like this is dad.

he's a whole joy yeah i mean the joke. there is that listen no one is supposed. to be like. people are always gonna have to find. reasons that they're a little. embarrassed of their parents. this is the reality of of growing up. your parents get older. uh you realize that they're fallible. human beings there's always a reason. you're a little offended by your parents. it doesn't mean it's the right reason or. a good reason right.

i talk about my mother investing in. beanie babies um i think the joke is. like hi. dad like this is dad you know i don't. think it's i hate my dad. he loved his dad and he and it even says. the article but chandler's acceptance of. his dad becomes a growth experience. and the show deals more with the breakup. of his parents marriage than his. father's sexuality. um. okay here's something that people at. glad did well they go. ray bradford director of entertainment. media for glad said that even today the. portrayal wasn't.

what we hate seeing on tv by a mile so. again. they're looking for reasons to be upset. but. even glad which is crazy said that this. is okay. really it's not offensive um. at all and then there were i didn't i. didn't care that much about friends. um but it was this cult show and i when. i was a tour guide in new york city i. realized. how many people around the world loved. it like people from the uk were obsessed. with it. um problematic plot lines.

the one with all the fat shaming well. you know it's interesting i watched the. pilot of beverly hills 90210. i was just curious as to what was going. on i watched the pilot of beverly hills. 9-2-l. the pilot jenny garth uh you know. brenda played by shannon doherty hot. chick. jenny garth hot chick brenda moves to. beverly hills from minnesota with jason. priestley her brother. and it's her first day in the new school.

and of course it's beverly west beverly. high and everybody's rich. and there's a scene in the pilot. where um and i don't know if you could. play this right. we can't play something like that you. can't play that yeah yeah well a fat. girl walks into. um bio or. biology or chemistry where you know. where you have a lab. partner and you both sit at a table in. high school. and the looks that the fat girl got in. the in the room everybody was like.

like i mean visually repulsed at the. idea of. so when the fat girl walks by them they. all move their books. so that she can't sit there because she. thinks somebody else is there. and jenny garth the blonde they get to. her and the fat girl goes hey is there. anyone sitting here jenny garc. yeah yeah there are and she goes who. because the fat girls had it now she. goes who's sitting here. and jenny garth as soon as shannon darty. walks in jenny garth goes. that girl and then shannon dardy comes. and sits down. and then they have a scene only a few.

minutes later where. uh brenda goes yeah. minnesota is really fun because you can. eat all winter and hide it under a. sweater. and jenny garth goes yeah here. everybody's always having a pool party. so you can't really pig out that much. so i don't know that that was healthy by. the way i don't know that. that extreme was needed because it was. it was. essentially the promotion of bulimia on. that show. but we've now gone so the other way.

where. it's it's also completely ridiculous as. i've covered in previous episodes with. the fat activist movement. and now what is i don't really remember. this storyline on friends is this the. one where phoebe's in a fat suit. i believe so yeah or monica's in a fat. suit. the fat suit that courtney cox is. wearing is monica is also portrayed as. being insanely possessive of her food as. though an overweight person was eat. constantly and that's funny. spoiler alert it is possible to be.

overweight and actually eat well in. exercise regularly well that is true. but that's a true small percentage of. people. we also see fat mon i mean fat monaco is. kind of funny yeah it was funny. so the problem is that fat monica is. portrayed as eating. so there's this idea that we need to. divorce fat from eating. which i don't know is scientifically. true. the idea that we need to get rid of the. link between. fat and eating food.

they seem somewhat inextricably linked. it's very odd to me that we have that. situation here but the friends reunion. um if you loved friends. go check it out who got fat uh chandler. chandler yeah chandler got he got big. good for him he got big. huh and there's nothing wrong with that.

i'm a fat activist but let's take a look. at him. oh he doesn't look that big. i think people were saying his speech is. a little slurred i don't know i didn't. watch it so. he doesn't look bad was it matt leblanc. was it joey. jennifer aniston looks exactly how she. looks. everybody else looks a little haggard.

but that jennifer addison looks great. well good for them maybe they can. compete in the olympics. every uh every everybody. now is obviously bitcoin has crashed we. have the convention coming up it has. lost half of its value. um roughly half of its value where is it. right now about 35 000. great and we all know that we've been. on this uh we've been riding this.

economic. um you know train. here at high speed for well over a. decade i mean. this is one of the biggest bull markets. in history for the longest amounts of. time. a lot of people said that it speculated. it should have ended pre-coveted. but kovid uh just allowed the government. to print money and artificially. subsidize everybody's lives. uh their new homes their you know cheap. interest rates.

you know put money into the economy. stimulus blah blah blah. and then eventually this is all coming. to an end. every financial show now literally. introduces every guest like this you're. like. uh ladies and gentlemen our next guest. says that the entire world. the entire world economy will be. destroyed within 72 hours. give it up for peter schiff and then. peter schiff comes out and he's like. you know literally and i like peter. shippies this libertarian who lives in. puerto rico. who gets hard every time the economy's. about to tank. every time there's about to be like a.

serious day peter shifts on every show. talking about stagflation he loves it he. just start he gets. we want him on here let's get him. somebody email peter schiff. um we want him on here uh he does not. like bitcoin. he's a big gold guy he goes [ __ ] bitcoin. it'll never be gold i wanted to bring. him. to the bitcoin convention and have him. just screaming at the people and have. them booing him being like [ __ ] you. and he's like it'll never be gold and. they're like boo. but that's every financial story right.

now is that it's gonna end and nobody. really knows when it's gonna end. that's what keeps people up at night. they go. when is this gonna and how bad is it. gonna be when it falls apart. i mean if you get some of these um. articles up. i mean literally the youtube thumbnails. are like i think peter schiff has one. where it goes people will lose. everything. um i'll just type that in you know. you know dent uh i forget his first name.

yeah the crash is gonna come sooner than. you think. a new crisis is coming i mean. this is a planned economic collapse. please save yourself. it's gonna crash sooner than you think. i mean he's gonna start selling merch. soon that just says crash. the final financial crisis yeah the. final financial crisis. i mean it's just please save yourself. prepare. the worst crisis of your lifetime i mean.

he's he's his brand is like. because the thing about these guys and. listen he's gonna be right eventually. like one day it is gonna happen. but until it happens you gotta keep. saying it's gonna happen like there's a. great quote where it's like peter schiff. has predicted nine out of the last two. recessions. like he just doesn't stop but that's the. libertarian like austrian economist. gold standard guys and i get it but. they're always like. it's coming and it's gonna be bad.

and when it comes whoa. stock market's going to go to zero like. there goes some of these guys. some of these they just they they're. literally it's just like. stock market is going to go to your so. if you want to learn how to save. yourself. sign up for the thing that i am selling. now you might think to yourself hey if. the stock market goes to zero. and we go back to a barter economy. nothing in your newsletter is really.

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four percent. tax should we call the new york times. reporter. and tell him that i changed my mind and. i want to talk. given my number of mine's hooked up i'll. call because we shouldn't call him from. yours right. why not. let's see if let's see if let's see if. we could call him because. uh a new york times reporter reached out. to like they're clearly reading some. writing some hit piece on rogan and. they're like do you have any comment and. i was like hey respectfully [ __ ] off. this is his uh. this is his email hey tim this is matt.

blah blah from the new york times. by the way the uh the the the header to. the email like the subject line was like. hey new york times just like hey nyt. it's like what hope you're doing well i. hope you don't mind. blank pass along your email i first met. him years ago for a story about stephen. miller the trump guy who happened to be. his classmate. i'm working on a rogan profile which of. course we know means hit piece. and have been making the rounds with. assorted friends comics podcast. it'll be very interesting to see who. talked.

i was hoping you might be up for a chat. too mostly trying to get a feel for joe. as a host of what it's like to be on the. show. etc i'm at blank uh if you got a few. this week or next i appreciate anyhow. should i call him and tell him. that i i i want to report that rogan. raped me. take call his number now can we call his. number. we're going to call him and we're going. to say listen i apologize.

for i outed it on social media because i. want people to know he is working on. hippies. and i want dummies see some of these. reporters are good they make it sound. like it's an approved piece. but what it really is is a hip piece so. they call people that know you and they. go. hey so we're working on this big thing. and right with whoever with tim with. your. and then they then people get lulled. into all right i'm gonna call him.

he knows ben avery's name. all right hang on maybe he'll call back. does anyone answer on the sixth ring. no should i shoot him a text. um no let him call back.

if he calls back which he might not but. of course i said hey. [ __ ] off because you know i know how. people twist words and everything. he's like i wanted to get a feel for joe. as a host i'm like watch the show. hey right matt right do some work. but what they want to do is they want to. convince people that this is like an. approved thing. and that uh you know it's oh it's. positive. it's positive and we are just. you know we just want to share the love.

that we all have for joe at the new york. times. we just love him and we want to share. the love we have for him so if you could. participate. and there's a lot of people who will be. duped into giving quotes. but i know how to deal with the press i. said matt respectfully [ __ ] off. because i know i only will deal with the. uk press by the way because i'm. trying to sell tickets over there and. build more of a. career there and i and i know they're. trashy monsters and.

i expect that that's okay and i don't. care if it's me. i don't give a [ __ ] but i'm never going. to give a quote about somebody else. that's going to be. taken out of context or used in a piece. that seeks to hurt that person. especially if it's something i like. but even if it's somebody i hate i would. not have participated in that. if they called me and said hey do you. know this uh hey we're doing a piece on. and i don't hate. these people but like we're doing a. piece on chelsea peretti or doing a. piece on whoever. i would go hey respectfully [ __ ] off. that would be my answer no matter what.

new york times we're doing a piece on. this [ __ ] off every. all answers are [ __ ] off to the press. unless it's a the uk press and it's a. and it's about. me or you know whatever upcoming shows. that i have or something like that i. don't have time the world economy has. about a week left. as peter schiff says get out now i love. just the youtube thumbnails are perfect.

get out now. most people will lose everything that. was another one it goes most people you. know. will lose everything. and by the way i'm not even saying that. he's wrong there needs to be a. correction. 100 it's just a very fun brand. to have and i get it like he's the town. crier. it's like you know he's like the poor. reviewer going through like the british. are coming the british you know.

get out now everyone you know will be. dead. we're gonna go back to a barter economy. where we just trade gold bars back. and forth yeah that'll work. and if you want to know what happens. when the stock market goes to zero. and uh the supply chains all fall. and no one has food energy money when. that happens. sign up for my newsletter if you want an. idea.

i mean i mean what is the newsletter. what's the first week of that newsletter. there's just utter chaos in the street. in the first week is. so i hate to say it but i told you so. kathy wood blames elon musk. esg investors for recent crypto crash. speaking at coindesk conference. kathy we've tried to get her on the show. tried to get her as a guest to the. bitcoin conference. but she's like part of this interesting. group of christian investors. oh she's christian yeah really she's.

like she's like uh. like part of this weird like culti group. of like christian investor group. like you know how like in the military. they have the knights of malta. which is like this you know kind of. weird like you know christian. group like fundamentalist uh she's part. of like some christian investor group. you know so i think she might find our. show. vulgar or crass. that's what she might i don't know could.

be. but uh speaking thursday coindesk. consensus 2021 conference woods said. a lot of institutional buying went on. pause. and that it was precipitated by the esg. movement and this notion. which was exacerbated by elon musk that. there are some real environmental. problems with the mining of bitcoin. recent reports have found the energy. usage behind crypto mining is comparable. to that of some medium-sized countries. much of it coal powered. crypto bulls have challenged those. findings. she was talking the other day about you.

know alternative energy sources being. used to mine bitcoin. what does esg stand for environmental. movement it's like long-term people. where they're like people communities. people communities and the environment. otherwise known as environmental social. and governance esg it's a growing. investment methodology for companies. who want to be seen as focused on the. long-term. forward-thinking leaders in their. industry corporately responsible better. man. you know what's funny about all this.

stuff is that you know lockheed martin. is now doing like. woke anti-racism training the defense. contractor. lockheed martin is now like putting a. bunch of white guys in a room and having. them talk about their privilege. that's great it's phenomenal so it's. we're we're beyond self parody anymore. you can't even make fun of it you can't. do life is the sketch. nothing to be made fun of here coming up. on the show is abby. martin are uh uh what are she's a real.

journalist she's a staunch defender of. israel. her new documentary missiles they're fun. for everyone. uh is out that is of course a joke uh. abby uh has a documentary called gaza. fights for freedom. um abby martin is an investigative. journalist. who spends a lot of her time overseas uh. on-site reporting um. from gaza from places like venezuela. she joins us on the show today to break.

down. what she sees as uh the problem. over there in the middle east. i'm getting a little sick of it by the. way but abby's gonna break it down for. us but i'm all about. quarantine's over it's time to have fun. it's time to have fun that's what it's. time to do. but i'm very interested to hear what she. has to say. um and then of course we would have.

loved to put her and barry weiss in. tanks like like glass boxes. and have them uh debate each other. interesting and we are still booked on. barry's show. when is that june 9th. i'll be in florida but oh yeah you will. you'll just do it over the phone it was. supposed to be. through zoom oh great easy. over the phone hi barry.

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if you don't you should. when i say there's seven or eight. journalists left in america this is one. of them. she has a documentary out called gaza. fights for freedom. where can they watch that and where can. they support what you do that's first. off. thanks tom uh tim sorry thanks mom uh. gossip fights for freedom.com. you can check out because it's being. throttled on youtube uh youtube is now. making it impossible to actually. find it if you search for it so you have. to go to our page on empire. files uh and actually watch it there so.

you can't share it from the page. you can't search for it uh they're. making it pretty hard to find. now this i know a little bit about the. conflict in the middle east you know a. lot more about it uh it seems clearly. like an unsustainable situation. um what don't people get because i think. people that are in america. that are are not really following they. only started to pay attention recently. they it's just basically like hey it's. two groups of people that don't like. each other that's kind of the simplistic.

explanation that we all like we're all. just like hey they don't like each other. but it's actually uh much deeper than. that. clearly but but this idea that i never. knew that there were two million people. kind of living in this. prison that they could not leave and. could you just. go into that yeah yeah so. the media tells us that it's basically. two sides of the same. fight you know two different states just. warring over. religion and this ancient conflict that.

will never be solved and it's way too. complicated for you to actually know. what's going on. it's actually really kind of easy to. understand. it's subtler colonialism we're talking. about a state that was founded on top of. another people. and every single day they continue to. take more of these people's. land and ethnically cleanse them off the. land so. there's two situations here there's a. brutal military occupation in the west. bank. uh that every day you know just making. palestinians lives just. horrible and humiliating with.

checkpoints. and blockades and this is like akin to. the height of the us military occupation. in iraq i mean this is not like an. abstract thing like oh there's a base. and soldiers milling around no this is. like. soldiers are [ __ ] with you every. single day every second of the day. making your life insanely hard to live. you can't protest you can't hand out. political literature you can't raise a. palestinian flag you can't do [ __ ]. and these extremist settlers who are.

taking over and colonizing the land. are harassing you and they are state. sanctioned and they are protected by the. israeli government and they can have. guns. and they're financed by the us. government right aren't we kind of. financing everything that's going on. there. now that video of the guy being like if. i don't take her house someone else will. that right that dude is actually being. funded to squat. in a palestinian home he is being. directly financed by ngos in the united. states and the israeli government. to do this um but then you have gaza.

gaza is basically surprise house for. refugees. that were ethnically cleansed during the. foundation of israel. and they also continue to be sent there. as like criminals quote unquote. criminals the israeli government will. just like designate someone for their. punishment. you are now going to live in gaza for. the rest of your days. and these people cannot leave without. permits or authorization by the israeli. military. and the egyptian military is just as. hostile and they collaborate with the.

israeli military. there's no basic human mobility you. can't get medical attention if you need. it um. um you there's no clean water like 97. of all the water is just non you know. it's like unpotable water. it's dirty and this is like the main. source of disease in gaza is. water that's between electricity two to. three hours a day it is it is hell. i also watched your documentary and they. said there's there's you can't get. medical supplies in. like yeah right yeah and right now.

after what's happened they're not. letting fuel so you can't feel the. generators they're not allowing. construction materials to rebuild. it's basically just continuous torture. and punishment for what hamas hamas. does for 2 million people who live there. 50 of which are children. so just keep that in mind every time you. know every couple of years israel just. bombs the [ __ ] out of gaza that's a war. on kids who are just innocent in a. situation. what is the justification for the. continually.

bulldozing the settlements and taking. the land like i think. that seems to be a a major. problem where you're it's it's an. expansion it's it's not only a. you know like you said a you know. colonial state but it's expanding it's. like constantly expanding. what do you think the ultimate goal is. is it just to get rid of all of the. palestinians. yeah it's to it's to completely kick out. all the palestinians from the land and. take. all of the land and this is why you have. israeli officials and the government.

openly saying no there will be no. palestinian state we are planning to. annex the entire territory. so you have this facade propped up by. u.s politicians being like yeah like. we believe in the two-state solution. while israeli government officials have. not entertained. the quote-unquote two-state solution for. decades this is this is a joke. right when it comes to israel society. this is an open conquest. of ethnic cleansing and the. justification. is that you know jews from all over the.

world can. immediately you know if you have the. heritage of judaism in your ancestry you. have the ordained right based on. biblical ancient texts that you can go. to this land. and colonize it and take it over and you. can get citizenship. which means that you are uprooting. people who actually have. real roots in the land who lived there. for generations and this is. this is what's going on every day. netanyahu seems to have taken the thing. in a radical direction i mean not that.

there weren't obviously problems before. what about him specifically has. presented this. uh you know probably uh more. radical face to what was going on was it. just was it was it his party which is. the likud party i don't know if i'm. right or not. um were they just like basically like. okay. hey now we're gonna like turn it up like. now like. what was there anybody i mean for lack. of a better word. is there any moderate voices in israel.

that are like we need to not. do this yeah so there. there's not a real like quote unquote. like left opposition. or like a center opposition that's. strong to really be a counterweight to. netanyahu it is really like. the right wing and then like the fascist. right wing and netanyahu. absolutely is uh you know on the fascist. uptick i mean you can look at like. you know he's been [ __ ] president. forever it's really crazy how long he's. been president and i think that when he.

rose to power he kind of emboldened a. lot of society. um to basically come out of the shadows. and just embrace kind of this genocidal. mentality that netanyahu so openly. embraces as well. through all of his rhetoric when it. comes to palestinians but just to give. you a sense of like what is the. opposition in israel like even though. there's a couple token seats in the. knesset for arabs. um that is that's you know it. it doesn't really they don't really have. power in terms of like the arab. population there you have arab-israeli.

citizens who are also oppressed and. treated discriminately but benny gantz. was. the opposition to netanyahu in the. previous election and he is also. an unabashed like war criminal he's very. proud to. uh do carpet bombing in gaza he was. running the idf operations during the. 2014 war and. he is equally as notoriously just. horrible. about the entire situation so it really. is like. you know a trump and then an even more. like a tom cotton or something.

it's like really right you know what is. the solution. um there seems to be very little chance. that we're cutting aid in a meaningful. way. you know the last person to threaten. that was george h.w bush by the way. but there doesn't seem to be any chance. that that is going to happen. uh why do you think that is why. are we so steadfastly i understand. supporting israel but we are steadfastly.

behind. everything that they do that. seems to be troubling. why is that why is that so. has become such an indelible part of. being a politician in america even aoc. you know when she went to go talk i. think it was like before jewish group. she's like. she she was like i'm a little jewish and. i know that you knew that i'm a little. and you go it's like it's a weird like. box that has to be checked why can't is.

it the fear of being called an. anti-semite. is it what is it that makes people just. hesitant to go. hey we're supporting something here that. is number one unsustainable but number. two uh it's a brutal. occupation that is inhumane. i think there's several layers there the. first layer is the fact that. israel has been able to construct this. alternative reality narrative that they. are. victims in this situation and then if.

you question. the entity like if you question the. construct of what zionism is you want a. second holocaust of jews right and so. for. generations people have been put on the. defense to be like no no like of course. i support israel's right to exist. as this subtler colonial entity that's. ethically cleansing people but i also. like i support palestinian rights. but i think over the last 20 years. israel's continuous going on the offense. in terms of invasions in syria lebanon.

the continuous bombardment of gaza where. gaza has no air like palestinians don't. have an air force army or navy right. they have like. rockets that they're reconstructing out. of mostly israeli bombs that are dropped. on them. as well as other means they don't have. the means to. to retaliate they don't have a method of. self-defense yet israel is continuing to. just. carpet bomb them over and over again and. then of course tighten the noose. of this medieval siege um that i think.

is given the perception like oh wait. maybe they aren't. you know like maybe this is not what i. thought it was so that that i think is. falling apart. more and more but that narrative has. been so successful. and they've weaponized this notion of. anti-semitism to such an extreme degree. that it's really made people. terrified of questioning it there's. another. level to this which is the highly. successful lobbying campaign. which manipulates people that that. basically. does smear you as an anti-semite makes.

your life. very hard in in your professional career. right to go anywhere. if you question this i mean i remember. comparing israel to. israel's methods to nazi germany because. they were actually. forcing ethiopian jews to take birth. control which is like. i mean that that's a classic um classic. method that actually you know eugenics. method and i was. i mean it's like every every bio of me. ever online is like and she said this. like right can you believe it it's like. yeah that's actually a fact.

but then then you go down to like who. are you up. u.s politicians who are corporate media. journalists you know what is their. intention. they adhere to the orthodoxy of zionism. they. they go into these outlets wanting power. and access you know i don't think. they're going in there being like. we we really care about human rights and. we're really trying to like hold power. to account no a lot of these people i. was in dc for a long time i know that. it's all about access. right and it's all about having your. career. be on the ascent and so these people go.

in there playing the game tim. like they know what they need to say and. even if they disagree. look at what happened to that ap. journalist like she was fired before she. did anything because she was a member of. a students for justice and palestine. group in college. meanwhile you have the [ __ ] editor of. the atlantic jeffrey goldberg who was an. idf. prison guard like that's the strain. it does seem the balance of power is a. bit skewed um.

but like but like the uh you know u.s. politicians like we grow up thinking. that israel is an extension of the us. and so we have this undying allegiance. it's like our whole mentality of this. perpetual war on terrorism. we like relate to israel like their. their experience in a war on terrorism. like we have this weird sympathy and. allegiance with them. and i think they we empathize with them. to a certain extent without. understanding even though we externalize. all of our violence with our. our wars and empire you just want a. lawsuit.

you just want a big lawsuit yeah yeah so. uh and and there you go this is like. this is the cancel culture cancel. culture is a serious thing and you have. governments. around the country passing laws and 35. states now have. laws that restrict your speech your. first amendment and prevent you from. talking about. israel boycotting israel and. pro-palestine solidarity issues. this is a huge issue of censorship and. it is on the forefront of the free. speech movement in the u.s and.

you know the fact that u.s politicians. feel the need to bend over backwards to. cater to israel and actually subvert the. first amendment and constitution. is quite shocking and i do think it has. to do with resources like they. they know that israel is a successful. military garrison and battering ram in. the middle east and this goes back to. the. 67 war where israel was basically able. to assert. dominance in the region crush all of. these arab nationalist movements and the. us was like hey we can use israel. just like we use colombia and latin. america and just like we use uganda.

and africa as these kind of. you know lynch pads that we can. yeah operations from you know and. basically. weaken the surrounding states that we. want to inevitably take down. yeah i mean i i understand that. you know israel was founded i'm like. i'm like this is the massage the mossad. has got my throat. um i understand that like america was.

founded on. on settler colonialism stuff like that. i'm not saying that. israel doesn't have a right to be there. because you'd have to look at every. country that was founded in a kind of. ridiculous way. and and say that they don't have a right. to exist but there does seem to be. um a real issue with the territorial. expansion. the the open-air prison is insane you. can't keep people like that it's. inhumane it's you know. and there does seem to be and obviously. the the american. right except for certain parts of it are.

are insanely pro um. netanyahu pro-israel um. and then they always give examples of. like well do you know how bad it is for. gay people in gaza which is. unlike how it is in saudi arabia which. is a party apparently or or. egypt or any of our other friends um i'm. not i don't i don't i also don't think. hamas is like a high school theater. group. i'm sure that they have there's problems. there as well. now i read in an article you're in hamas. now i'm kidding but to you.

[Laughter]. uh that's that's what i mean a real but. in order to be a real journalist you. kind of do have to be in a mosque. how what is your life like dude because. people go whitney webb who we've had on. the show they call her anti-semitic. do you have problems at airports do you. have problems like because you. they know of you and yeah yeah. so how how much has that impacted your. daily life and what you're able to do. well i'm banned for life from getting.

into gaza and i'm probably banned from. getting into. 48 so israel uh but i haven't tried to. fly into tel aviv i feel like i. you know i feel like i know what the. outcome of that's going to be but i was. called an iranian. agent by israel when i tried to. apply to get into gaza they said you. know i'm a propagandist not a journalist. but i'm also an iranian. spy and i i was pretty alarmed by that. i'm used to being called a russian agent. or a venezuelan agent i was like that. that's scary you know when you're. called that because we know the we know.

what they do to journalists that don't. toe their line and i'll just give you a. quick anecdote back in 2012 when i was. covering. war crimes on a daily basis that israel. was committing on breaking the set my. old show. they shelled a journalist tower that. they then leveled just a couple of weeks. ago. the al-sharap journalist tower and an rt. cameraman's leg was blown off. and my boss wrote them a letter and he. was like why did you shell this. journalist tower knowing that there were. journalists there and they were like. a everyone is a hamas target because.

there were satellites on the roof and. whatever whatever and they're like b. your network has taken a side in the. coverage. so explicit admission of war crimes as. well as basically a. threat like an ominous threat to rt and. my. show i i presume by being like you're. covering war crimes and so we can. blow you up if we want to so yes i know. i'm on the radar. we know how crazy you know the law i. don't know if anyone's seen the lobby or. if you've checked that out by al jazeera. like.

they go to great lengths to spy on just. peaceful palestinian solidarity. activists to subvert. and ruin their lives um and. it's it's an extreme extreme operation. so you know you got to watch out because. uh what role do you think. like a jeffrey epstein or someone who's. uh you know i don't know who he's. working for. no idea uh could have been france. maybe zimbabwe i don't know i don't what.

do i know. right and yet some would suggest. he was uh engaging in like a blackmail. operation for the mossad with. very high-level people do you give any. credence to notions like that that that. uh you know this is something that many. intelligence agencies do and. i guess the cia and the massage is very. good at it like. is that potentially why you see people. that don't really look at this with a. critical. lens oh my god i mean look at what we.

know the mossad just did they took out. actual just civilian like scientists in. iran. i mean this just happened a couple. months ago actually. just did a like a breaking bad style. machine gun. operation of like automatic machine guns. that just took out this guy. and it's just like this is the kind of. [ __ ] that they're doing all the time. absolutely i think that uh you know the. cia and masada are working very closely. together doing all these co-voter. operations. the only reason we even know about that. is i think because they were very brazen. and actually wanted us to know.

right irresponsible this is part of. the kind of psyop um but yeah i think. that when it comes to things like. epstein there's a lot more that we don't. know and it what really annoys me is. people have. accepted this weird alternate reality. where they're like oh the cia just. doesn't do this stuff anymore oh yeah. they used to do the you know the dirty. wars and fun. death squads and assassinations it's. like why don't you think that they would. have just gotten. better like we're in uh surveillance. capitalism where they actually. like can it's like pre-programming they. know what we're about to do.

like they they have been able to. sophisticate. their operations quite a bit like why. would you just assume that they're not. doing horrific. things on a daily basis like that where. does this lead if you if you could. uh you know step back and look at. where israel and palestine are right now. does this ever come to a resolution do. you think that this. is the pressure starting to grow and. mount for israel to take a different. course. is the leader after netanyahu more. moderate or reasonable.

or does this ratchet up just constantly. it ratchets it up constantly and. netanyahu i think. is emblematic of where israeli society. is at. um because when he got into power people. were able to kind of. take the masks off and say this is what. we feel. you know we they embrace netanyahu and. in fact whenever he. does things like just happened in the. gaza strip his poll numbers shoot. through the roof. you can see this reflected in polling. throughout the country 95.

of israeli jewish citizens supported the. gaza war. 80 to 85 support the shoot to kill. policy at the border i mean that would. be similar to like 85 percent of. americans supporting just. executing migrants like wandering around. by the border. like that i mean it's a really fascist. society and yes of course there's. opposition of course and i believe in. our defense we only have 75. of americans uh supporting executing. migrants so i think that's right. it's a country.

what does a two-state solution look like. you'd have to normalize trade with. palestine right you'd have to. there'd have to be an an agreement where. palestine could trade with other. countries i mean. they would have to have the rights. they'd have to have right to go places. and. i mean that was the hope when i was. growing up in the 90s. that's all i heard was two-state. solution two-state solution. and that was the also and that was you. know that was basically arafat. and uh the plo and all of these like.

secular. nationalist palestinian movements that. were supposed to be a counterweight to. the islamist rise of hamas that actually. israel. helped create and fund and wanted to win. the election so then they can just. blanket gaza's this you know hostile. entity and justify everything that they. do by. you know hamas being the government but. they helped. make that happen they helped create the. situation today so then they can just. perpetually use hamas as an excuse now. what does this do. to state versus one state i think.

palestinians have shown that they are. willing to negotiate. what that is but going back to the oslo. accords that was supposed to be the. future palestinian state was. what the west bank is and that has been. atomized and taken over by settlements. completely so for me it's hard to. imagine what the state would look like. when. it there is no state to be had i mean. it's you have to go from one settlement. to the next you have to cross military. checkpoints only 17. of the west bank is actually palestinian. territory without israeli soldiers. present. the rest is is horrifically under.

occupation. you would have to dissolve those. settlements and retreat. the settlement boundaries back to the. 1967 borders which. is a formula of national consensus. palestinians have have. talked about that they would accept that. but again like israeli. government officials have have declared. that that is not on the table. even hamas has been willing to negotiate. those lines. so people have said well what's the. other solution a one-state solution. which means. you know stopping the occupation lifting.

the siege and giving. the 5 million palestinians who have no. human rights or equality. basic democratic rights and having one. person one vote. but that would kind of fly in the face. of of what israel is i mean it's an. artificial israel is how many people. live in israel. uh oh man i want to say like seven. million i. might be way off um [ __ ] i. i might just look at that. like for example it's in in east.

jerusalem there's a 70. demographic law that you have to have 70. israeli jewish citizens there versus 30. arabs. which means 9 million you were close oh. great yeah. it's an artificial majority which. necessitates like ongoing expulsion of. people who live there you know what i. mean and like yeah like i think that we. have this abstract notion like yeah the. native genocide was really bad slavery. was really bad that should happen. hundreds of years ago. but we still feel the remnants of racism. and a lot of institutions.

imagine that happening like now right. that's happening. every day it seems like a two-state. solution is the best. course if israel is willing to give back. some of that land. and you know they can figure it out but. it seems. unlikely it seems unlikely without math. it seems like it's going to be tough to. do a one state. at this point with all of them that's. going to be because. that's all that's all predicated on the. the false premise that.

you don't want israel to exist as a. jewish state and that. you know that's where everything falls. apart and i will say you know back to. this anti-bds legislation that they're. passing. this is super surreal because the. israeli lobby and. israeli government officials as much as. we hear this hysteria about. russian interference in our democracy. israel has been interfering in our. democracy for. years and years they are trying to push. the boundaries of what. we will accept like legislatively to. actually change the laws here like.

i think that they know these anti-bds. laws are blatantly unconstitutional but. they're just throwing them out there and. seeing what sticks. you know just like they tried to. actually sue a palestinian woman here. for defamation but knew the statute of. limitations had to run out so then they. could apply. israeli law in the u.s. that was struck down as well but this. shows you like how far they're actually. pushing. because they know that they can go far. here and they know a lot of people. will just blindly pass these laws. knowing that they are. i mean it's just so flagrant and crazy.

and brazen that they are trying to. undermine free speech. by saying you can't talk about this you. like you can't work. in 35 states unless you pledge to never. boycott israel that's nuts. right well it doesn't seem like anybody. wants free speech in this country maybe. you do. maybe i do maybe there's a collection of. people but. left to the right nobody really wants. free speech but they've been very. successful but congrats to you. because you won that lawsuit which i. think. maybe is a turning point there because.

you can't. define what people are allowed to to. uh boycott or what they're allowed to. talk about. it's crazy you were going to give a. speech on a college campus right. yeah yeah this is supposed to be the. beacon of free speech. you know across the country and i was. supposed to give a keynote speech about. media not even palestine and i was given. a contract that says you can never. boycott the state of israel if you want. to make money. in georgia and make this honorarium so i. refused to sign i sued and.

a year and a half later on the heels of. the vicious onslaught in gaza the judge. ruled. that this was unconstitutional because. what it did was basically say i need to. adhere to a certain type of political. belief. or speech which is exactly what it was. um and. and just imagine how crazy that would be. to replace the word israel with any. other entity including the us and. georgia right like you would. be beyond the realm of comprehension if. you were given a contract being like you. can never boycott russia. and then you had putin taking to twitter. which netanyahu did. after the lawsuit was filed bragging.

about the fact that they have passed. these laws in the u.s being like we've. worked really hard. to pass all these laws and we're gonna. boycott whoever boycotts us it's like. now you're threatening us like how is. this real yeah. no i mean it's it's it's absurd really. it's absurd. it's absurd gaza fights for what are you. doing on memorial day are you. do you ever have fun because everything. you do is so serious me and rogan. were talking about it the other day we. said abby where he's like i brought more. knows balls mom.

and do you ever just relax. and have a nice uh memorial day weekend. without having to check for all your. stuff being bugged. i do man i i love nature i love uh. having fun i like to laugh. yeah did your brother leave twitter what. i mean you gotta you gotta [ __ ]. chill out we miss your brother on. twitter i don't know what happened to. robbie on twitter we used to. call him at 3am and and to try to hunt. down people from.

the 911 truth movement you're. you're all wired jazzed up jacked up and. called them talking about 9 11. i. appreciate that. yeah i mean listen that's until an. experience. two o'clock in the morning call you. about nine gaza fights for freedom. uh watch the documentary i didn't know. much about this but i watched it and i. was like this is [ __ ]. wild uh and and again and we're gonna. have all your stuff in the description. of the youtube video here which i'm sure. they'll take down. but tell everybody uh where to find you.

yeah so gaza by supreme really quickly. this this shows you what happens when. palestinians peacefully resist. this was a mass march and they were. mowed down by snipers uh and it was. a very shocking war crime that has been. completely covered up. find me on twitter abby martin find uh. empire files on youtube. gazafreedom.com while it's still allowed. to be up tim thank you so much for. caring about the issue and having me. again i'm i'm i'm learning more and more. about it but that documentary is is.

harrowing. so uh everybody go check that out and. and uh go read what abby writes even if. you don't agree with her. she's doing she's there you're not there. i'm not there you're she's talking to. people. i tried to join hamas he said no so. abby martin find the idf man you can go. join the idf. they don't want me either they won't say. yes to me i've had whitney webb on too. many times. all right yeah the weinsteins will stop. that.

anyway abby martin thank you so much we. appreciate it. happy memorial day yeah peace out.