#250 - The New Shepard | The Tim Dillon Show

ladies and gentlemen welcome to the tim. dillon show here with newly married ben. avery you finally did it you made it. legal with the old battle axe. and now a long happy life together. uh recap of the wedding which was lovely. is on uh patreon. and um i had a great time i enjoyed it i. really did truly everyone loved it. i liked it um and and even the parts of. it i didn't know that i would think i. would enjoy um like the exorcism for. example they did an exorcism where they. brought a child out in a tub.

and. they kept putting it in the water and. then there was a lot of screaming but. then your mother said that's how it you. know it's working it's the demon leaving. well i didn't know that and it was. lovely and then we had did the cake. um i want to start off today by by. saying that we we criticize. um. these batman. villain uh billionaires that seem to be. running around our planet. being a billionaire now just seems to be. you get to do what you think is cool.

like when you're worth a billion dollars. peop it's basically just uh teenage. fantasies. uh that you get to act out. but i will say something let. hey. let's give credit where credit is due i. will admit when i'm wrong about somebody. truly. i've said negative things about jeff. bezos before on the show. we all know what's happening with. coveted in india.

jeff bezos. has decided to step in and help. and this is this is amazing to watch. let's play the video. this is jeff bezos who's getting. involved to help the people of india. right now. and it's heartwarming. all right here we go. guys how exciting is this come on.

[Applause]. i'm a bit confused but. those hats are very important for the. sun. [Music]. so he's what he's doing to help with the.

coven in india is he's uh uh letting. people know that you can be one of the. very first to buy the first seat on the. new shepard. which is uh his spaceship. hey man that's not nothing. that is not nothing. and i think that it's high time we give. him his due. because. it would be easy. to just step back and do nothing when. people are suffering in india.

that somebody's dying like i don't even. know the statistic it's like every two. seconds or something crazy. and they're burning bodies in the street. and it is an absolute humanitarian. crisis. but. to be honest. jeff bezos uh saying that you can buy a. ticket. to a rocket. which will take you on a tour through. space. i do believe is a good use of i think. it's good. i think it's a good use of resources.

i do and anyone that disagrees with me. is wrong. i'm a little sick of people not. appreciating this man's contribution. he's in uh what is one of these cars. he's in the new shepherd. no the car the rivian the rt-1 and. they're they don't make a lot of these. and he's in there with a hat. and he's showing people that very soon. you could get on the new shepard. who's in that car with him by the way.

i guess his new girlfriend maybe. oh. look at jeff. he's got people in the back with masks. on. what's that about. what are you doing with a mask on in the. back of the rivian with jeff bezos what. virtue can you imagine that level of. virtue signaling you're on the way to a. rocket launch. with jeff bezos. in the back of his rivian car.

and you've got a mask on to prove what. exactly is that person scared of getting. covered. are they scared of getting covered from. jeff bezos. on the way to a rocket lock can you. imagine explaining that to the people at. the urgent care because i'm sure that's. where they go you know the urgent care. yeah how'd you get this well i was in. jeff bezos's rivian his what it's a car. they make very few of them and we're on. the way to see the new shepherd the who.

it's the uh the new shepherd it's the. new space tourism rocket that bezos. my boss jeff and uh i got covet. i was in the car and i got covered so. smart that they have the mask on because. it is a high risk situation it's a high. risk situation to be uh. in a car with a billionaire on the way. to uh rocket launch it's a real hotbed. of coronavirus in there. jeff bezos's space venture blue origin. said in a video released thursday it. will soon begin selling tickets for.

rides on its space tourism rocket called. the new shepard guys how exciting is. this come on bezos said because people. are getting bored with it you know. and i'm not one of these people who's. always like we should not explore space. i get it. it's just funny. sign up to learn how you can buy the. very first seat on new shepard. now do you think. do you think because obviously it's.

going to be for rich people. but you know everyone's going woke now. so do you think that they have to just. for the for to save face. send up like a spanish lady works in a. laundromat and blast her in his space. with the other space freak. multi-millionaires. like do they just take like a black bus. driver and say. you've won and she goes what do i want. and you go you're going to space. and she's going to be like what. you go listen.

jeff bezos. is uh trying out his new tourism rocket. the new shepherd. yeah the problem is. a lot of people bought tickets and. they're all pretty damn white. because white people are sick of this. planet they've ravaged it they've. destroyed most of it they're sick of it. they want to go somewhere else. point being we need it to look more. representative of america so you have. won it's like that thing you've been. selected when you get those phone calls.

so they're just they're i i want them to. go into the hood. and get like a thug [ __ ] and throw her. in the new shepherd. sitting next to whoever the hell is. spending money to go to space. it shows him driving across the texas. desert the remote location of the new. shepard launch facility notably at the. wheel of a rivien r1t. electric truck which is emblazoned with. blue origin signature feather. new shepherd is designed to carry as.

many as six people at a time on a ride. past the edge of space. with the capsules on previous test. flights reaching an altitude of more. than 340 000 feet. 100 kilometers the capsule which has. massive windows to give passengers a. view spends as much as 10 minutes. in zero gravity before returning to. earth. the rocket launches vertically. with the booster now i don't want anyone. to get hurt and we know that.

but would there be something wrong. with a challenger-like explosion. killing. all of the people. except the black bus driver in the that. we're sad about that but like if if it. was just the usual suspects. people that have too much money and go. let's go to space would there be. anything wrong with watching this thing. incinerate. i don't think so the rocket launches. vertically with the booster detaching. and returning to land at a concrete pad.

nearby. the capsule's return is slowed down by a. set of parachutes before softly landing. in the desert. shares of virgin galactic fell more than. three percent after blue origin posted. its video as bezos's company will. compete with richard branson in the. niche space sector of suborbital tourism. my favorite word now. suborbital. tourism.

don't you want to see space. virgin galactic has sold tickets to 600. passengers at a price between 200 000. and 250 000 each. although the company expects it could. increase its prices substantially for. the first commercial flights. they will be and then bezos said we're. going to price them uh. competitively uh with uh where uh. branson is at so between two hundred. thousand a quarter million around that. area is what it will cost to uh engage.

in sub-orbital tourism. while the world literally burns. beneath you that's what being a. billionaire is now i mean and we should. be exploring space but i think it's. funny that immediately. we're thinking about uh ways to open. marriotts up there and get people up. there. uh uh in uh a completely non-educational. capacity by the way. let's take a space cruise.

it's about that time. everyone is also being mean right now to. bill gates. who's one of our good friends they're. being mean to him because he doesn't. want to share his vaccine patent with. the developing world. well. i mean. have you ever been. to a restaurant. and. you're eating the chicken wings and you.

go what is in. this sauce i've done this. and the waiter looks at you and goes we. could tell you what's the funny joke. do you know it. you don't know it oh if we told you we'd. have to kill you if we tell ya we'd have. to kill you. this is this guy's hot wing sauce.

this is his secret sauce. this is his flavor of the month. mango habanero glaze. sauce and no. it doesn't get bottled up without his. say-so. he could tell you but he'd have to kill. you. you think bill gates was sitting around. cooking up this batch. so that people.

out there could just take it and open up. their own wing stands. we think not. and and i understand it because you. imagine a hot wing sauce imagine if it. was a vaccine that could potentially. save the lives of of millions of people. that are literally burning their bodies. in the street right now you would still. say hey that's my mother's. recipe you can't take it. let's read a little bit of this bill.

gates under fire for saying vaccine. formulas shouldn't be shared with. developing world. do you want to hear him defend himself. here. let's hear him defend himself because we. are too critical of him i have always. believed this guy had no intentions. except the best intentions for humanity. that's why he wanted to shoot a missile. of uh dust at the sun. and uh why he uh you know he went uh you. know white water rafting with epstein. but he is.

just about saving lives. there's been some speculation that the. changing intellectual property rules um. and allowing these vaccines as you say. the the. the recipe for these vaccines to be. shared would be helpful and do you think. that would be helpful no why not well. there's only so many vaccine factories. in the world and people are very serious. about the safety of vaccines. and so moving something that had never. been done moving a vaccine from say a uh.

a j factory into a factory in india. that it's novel it's only because of our. grants and our expertise that can happen. at all. the the thing that's holding things back. in this case is not intellectual. property there's not like some idle. vaccine factory with regulatory approval. that makes magically safe vaccines. you know you've got to do the trials on. these things and every manufacturing. process. has to be looked at in a in a very uh.

careful way ah i'll answer the real. answer. play her question again i'm gonna answer. his answer okay. there's been some speculation that the. changing intellectual property rules um. and allowing these vaccines as you say. the the the recipe for these vaccines to. be shared would be helpful and do you. think that would be helpful. list listen. listen. i don't even know.

what you think you're. asking me right now. okay here's a reality. there are these things called vaccines. they're tough to make. they're not made in a magical factory in. the sky. okay. they're made for profit. in a factory. where i walk around with a hard hat. and i goose. people. gender unimportant i just goosed them.

that's where they're gonna be made. and if you want one. you could spend a little coin. okay but other than that we're not gonna. be. letting you run around with our product. all over the developing world we do that. if somebody's pricking you in. sub-saharan africa that is us. okay. so let's be real clear.

about why i'm in this business it's to. make a couple of bucks. you think tech is good money. you think finance is good money. you know what's good money the essence. of all life. that's what i've decided i got a little. bored. i got a little bored. at microsoft where do you work microsoft. right yeah i got a little bored there. okay. so i decided my next business venture.

would be. trying to control the essence of all. life. on this planet. deciding how much of it there is and. where it should happen. okay. so i'm not interested in like you know. this isn't a potluck dinner where. everybody brings a vaccine this isn't a. firehouse. where somebody brings macaroni salad. somebody else you know brings a [ __ ]. lasagna. this is a vaccine party and it's at my. house okay [ __ ].

he seemed a little flustered kind of. giving that answer. he didn't look as comfortable as he. usually does giving that answer. why doesn't he host snl. what's with elon musk all the time get. gates uh to host snl. elon musk clearly wants to spotlight. let's not give it to him. let's get bill gates to host snl and. they could do a fun sketch. about bill gates explaining uh to an.

indian peasant whose entire family of 72. people has just been burned alive in the. street why he can't share the vaccine. patent it'll be a laugh riot. i think so can't you see that sketch. aidy bryant and bo and yang dressed as. indian peasants. crawling across the floor. okay. talking to bill gates about the vaccine. patent. i can.

and why not. people are up in arms uh about this. bernie sanders what did sanders say. sanders was like hey. sanders sanders was start staunchly. against this. yeah he wa he wants to share the patent. sanders like a good moral man yes. the huge concentration held by okay last. weekend senator bernie sanders called on.

president biden to support international. efforts to suspend patent protections. for coven 19 vaccines arguing that. they're artificially restricting the. world supply of vaccines and preventing. citizens of poor countries from gaining. access to a life-saving product there's. growing public support in america for. sanders position. a petition signed by two million people. was sent to biden urging him to back a. temporary patent waiver for the vaccines. 60 on the other side of the fence is. billy gates billy boy gates.

who supports increasing poor countries. excessive. accessibility to the vaccines however. [Laughter]. you love that sentence. on the other side is bill gates who. supports increasing poor countries. accessibility to the vaccines however. gates the great global philanthropy i. mean do they write did bill melinda. write these articles and send them to. the paper. gates the great global philanthropist.

whose businesses are based on. intellectual property laws argues that. it's a bad idea to wait this is the guy. that they had to break up microsoft. because he wanted a monopoly he had a. monopoly he wants a monopoly on your. health. and when people like me said things like. that i was called names. argues it's a bad idea to waive patent. protections for covet vaccines and share. their formulas with the world for the. sake of achieving a dramatic rise in. their production. and distribution.

he said it's a technical matter. there's a limited number of. manufacturing plants. and the safety of the manufacturing. process is of the utmost importance. hey there's a limited number of places. to do this. and we should keep it that way. how about how about trying to increase. the safety standards at the. shut up. uh sir may i ask could it be possible to.

increase the safety standards hey [ __ ]. you. i my question is just that i know you're. concerned that there's not too many. manufacturing plans could we build those. plants perhaps and increase the safety. standards. get out of my face. we hope every we we uh we hope that the. patents are uh available but and this i. truly believe this is what i believe if. you are in india.

and you are 21 and you are healthy. i don't believe. you should get vaccinated even if. everyone you know has died. if you are in india. and you are healthy. and you take the right supplements. and you work out. and you eat a high protein diet perhaps. carnivore. uh if you eat only meat in india which. you can't you're not even allowed to.

right. right so. if you're breaking the rules. and somehow. surviving off a carnivore diet and you. are healthy. and you are 21. and everyone you know is dead. still. still. and if your 21 year old friend who is. also healthy. died. i would i i don't think you need to get. it. and i hope that's not a firestorm.

i hope that's not national news and i. hope that dr anthony thought she doesn't. respond to me at tim j dillon on twitter. but if he did that would be fine too. i'm not. just trying to get attention here. i'm not trying to get atta a lot of. people accuse me all the time like oh. you're trying to get a 10 i'm not trying. to get attention i'm just saying that. the podcasting world has made some news. in the last week i don't think anyone. should get the vaccine even if you're. old and immunocompromised and.

and you've had covenant and almost. killed you once i don't think you should. get the vaccine i don't think anyone. should get any vaccine ever. and if if that's a national news story. and my name trends on every social media. site that's ever existed then so be it. because that's what i feel. do you understand. so i'm saying that no one should ever. get a vaccine.

okay. ever. for any reason. even if you are sick and you have asthma. and you are 700 pounds and it's being. offered to you for free. don't. get it. at tim j dillon instagram twitter. timdylandcomedy.com. dates are on the on the tour page merch. is on the merch page.

okay. i'm not. i don't want this i don't want this. controversy do you understand. i'm just saying i don't believe what's. happening in india is actually happening. i believe it's fake. i believe. they are. faking this have you seen any actual. body i think they're just burning wood. in india to get attention. i'm not trying to be controversial.

and increase my audience like that. what i'm trying to do is just converse. so what is happening in india. isn't real. and you should not get the vaccine. okay. other things i've noticed. trans child athlete i'm kidding that's. the i won't even even for the joke even.

for the bit. even for the bit we won't even though. it's clearly an ironic bit and many of. my smarter. listeners realize that and and viewers. we can't even you know. we can't even go because. you know what'll happen but rogan is uh. he doesn't mean don't get the vaccine. what do you think he means. uh i i think he means that if don't be.

nervous you're such a [ __ ]. he he means if you're a healthy person. who's not around other. like other people should be like. fauci kind of agreed with him right with. fauci's comment in regards to rogan. where he said if you're in a vacuum then. that's okay then you shouldn't get. vaccinated. like fauci did indirectly kind of agree. with rogan right with this statement. i'll pull it up. i'm not trying to do a non-answer here.

but. i think fauci was saying. that he was disappointed. uh that. india would go to such great lengths. to just try to get cheap vaccine from. billy gates. an icon. and a great man.

what if this happened okay what if saucy. showed up at rogan's studio and smacked. the [ __ ] out of him. on air. like just beat the [ __ ] out of rogan on. air. we would all listen to fouchy. fauci should fight rogan yeah. in a jake paul style. public spectacle. that's. that's how to settle it. fauci versus rogan similar height.

but different skill sets. and let's see what happens. the reason why this is fauci's quote he. said is you're talking about yourself in. a vacuum you're worried about yourself. getting infected and likely that you're. not gonna get any symptoms but you can. get infected will get infected if you. put yourself at risk well. we support everyone and that's the most. important thing. if we support all of the people out. there that are doing all of the things.

at every minute. however you feel. whether you're a cop. or you're a fat girl with a knife. whether you are joe rogan or anthony. fausch. whether you are uh vaccinated or. anti-vaxxed whether you are bill gates. or an indian peasant who desperately. needs you to uh remove the vaccine. pattern we support everyone. we support everyone in all of the things. that they do at all the times they do.

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for ten percent off your next order. um let me let me just quickly with the. mckee brian tweet my point about that. tweet which got everyone nuts was that. fat children fat teenagers are looked at. as threats as adults it may not be right. i wasn't saying she deserved to die. because she was fat i said the cop made. a split second decision because he saw. the girl with a knife uh uh charging. another girl or you know are about to. thrust a knife into another girl which. is a potentially fatal injury i did not.

say she deserved to die because she was. fat the fat activist movement came for. me. again. i don't remember the last time they came. for me. but the fat activist movement. uh has come for me. and this is why i'm actually trying to. get in better shape because. uh fat people at at one time were a. jolly. sad. but jolly people.

meaning fat people were sad. when they were by themselves but when. they were with others they had to. convince you that they weren't sad and. they were like. it's fun we're having fun i'm f you know. now fat people are like. they're like. rude. and they're. it's true. i don't want to be a part of this. community anymore because they've become. they've become like moralists and.

they're they're they're saying. that fat. is uh like a mark of achievement or a. mark of virtue. that you should love your body no matter. what well maybe. i'm not telling anyone not to love. themselves but i'm saying you should. love yourself. uh. within reason. do you see what i mean. you shouldn't just love yourself no. matter what. there's got to be a point where you stop.

loving yourself there's got to be a line. like body positivity. is there ever a line where you're not. allowed to be positive about your body. there was a guy when i grew up he was. 1100 pounds he had when he died. he had to cut. part of his house out and take him out. they had to they had to do a. construction project on his name was. walters from long island some [ __ ]. person will find it. they had to cut out.

part of his house. to get him out of the house. did he really need to hear. that he was beautiful. the way he was i'm not saying it's. necessarily always a negative message. but i'm saying. between. hating yourself because you're a little. you got some pudge. and. needing to be cut out of a wall. is there a happy medium where we can we.

can tone it down with the love of the. bodies. can we tone it down with the love of the. bodies here's the other thing about fat. people fat people are pretending they. don't know they're fat. and they don't like fat people are now. acting like fat. has no negative health uh implications. and that it's just not harder to do. things. they're like oh it's a social construct. not always. walk upstairs. that's not a social conscious it just. sucks.

walking upstairs is hard. when i do it with him when i get to the. third of the fourth flight i have to. stop and pretend i'm saying something. profound. or pretend to notice something this will. be like oh you know what i just thought. of to just catch my breath. because i don't want to keep going. you know you're fat you know you're. unhealthy if you're a fat person you. know you're unhealthy can you play. lizzo's thing where she's talking about. the body positive movement being.

co-opted by thin people. and i'm not saying if you're fat you. should hate yourself or you should be. unhappy with yourself or you should be. uh you know made fun of or shamed or we. don't want any of that but people and. not everyone has to be uh real thin. but we need to calm down with the love. of the bodies. that are like being broken. lizzo said that the body positive. movement was being used by people who.

who like. really like their bodies genuinely like. thin people. are getting involved and saying hey i. love my body and lizard's like yes we. get it everyone should love their body. but this movement is for fat people and. fat women of color specifically it's on. lizzle's tick-tock. yes. here we are. and the thing with the mckee branding. it's a tragedy that she died it sucks. i'm very upset about it um. that anyone is that dies that anybody is. killed by the police or anybody's in.

that situation. um it it it it's a tragic situation. but i was not thatched i was not saying. she deserved to die because she was fat. this is this is uh this is insane. um what i was saying is that a fat. person wielding a knife i was 16 i was. chubby not that chubby i i got chubbier. later but like. a fat person wielding a knife.

it's. it most people look at it and they're. they're afraid you don't register as a. child. you don't register as a child when. you're a fat person unless. unless you're a chef. if you're fat. and you have a knife. you have to be a chef and you have to be. preparing a meal. but in any other. situation a fat person with a knife is. very scary.

it's true i i don't. i don't mean to disrupt anyone's sense. of reality. but. it's not nice. what happened and i don't like it but i. also don't deserve. uh to be called out by the fat activists. here we are. would you wake up and trade places with. somebody who is on the heavier side i'm. glad she asked because this has given me. very much when that sociologist dr jane. acts that room full of white people.

raise your hand if you want to be. treated like how black people are. treated in this country or raise your. hand if you would wake up and be black. tomorrow and nobody raised their hand. and that's because they know that. there's some systemic [ __ ] that. happens to black people that does not. happen to them and will never happen to. white people that's correct so yes if i. asked you right now have you been shamed. yes you've been through a lot yes it. sucks being a person in this society. because we have to go through so much to. love ourselves but would you switch. places with a fat person's body tomorrow.

you would not because you know that. there is a whole system that oppresses. fat people that you do not experience. experience wait a minute hold on. the system that oppresses fat people. don't know i look at the restaurants and. the portions and the servings and the. drive-throughs and i think fat people. are pretty well cared for in this. country they're pretty well taken care. of. i don't see the oppression of fat people.

when there are fast food restaurants and. all you can eat buffets. and there's postmates and grub hub and. door dash and people will literally show. up to your house and put a sandwich in. your mouth for you. i don't see fat people being. uh i mean literally there are shows. about food until there is a network. dedicated to food there are countless. instagram i on my instagram it shows me. like hot dudes and and uh nice houses. and then just those exploding desserts.

you know those desserts that explode. it's very sexual it's like it's a dome. that's over it they pour something on it. and then it just explodes all i see on. instagram is those desserts. so it's weird to me that she says. there's a system that's against fat. people but literally everything from. what you put in your mouth to even what. you look at every day is to entice and. excite fat. people am am i wrong about that. i know that people go through things for.

being fat i hooked up with a guy once. who did nothing but grab my fat and. scream. at the top of his lungs. it was very disturbing. he was grabbing and this is a fetish. that i found out people have and it has. to do with something in childhood i. don't know but he would just grab my fat. and mash it together and he'd go. and it was off-putting at the time i was. trying to enjoy it. he was having fun with it but i. understand that that's what happens to.

people truly literally. he was sucking my dick but then he just. decided to start mashing. my fat together and we went. i did that for several minutes but then. i read about that and that's something. that's more normal than. not normal. so what i'm saying is that i understand. what she's saying but i also have. issues with it continue this. so let's remember body positivity yes we.

want to end harassment and shame but we. also are working to dismantle a system. that oppresses fat people what is that. system that we treat. people though this is what i'm curious. about. and i genuinely want to be educated i. understand that fat people have it. tougher and some people have medical. issues and some people you know are not. it's not their fault that they're as fat. as they are. um. my mother used to complain because my. mother had a thyroid problem.

my mother did. she had a slow thyroid and she would. tell us that all the time at outback. she would say i have a thyroid. condition. she would tell us about it the outback. and i know that that happens i'm not. blind to that i get it. it's not all. nurture some of it is nature. my mother would explain that to me but. continue i want to see the rest of this.

oh that was all of it that was all of it. yeah just one tick tock 60 seconds well. that's okay i saw something else but. it's it's uh. we get it we we know where we're going. here with that. and. i'm just saying that i have a lot of. love and respect. for the body but can we put on one of. the really big people that talks about. fat phobia and fat acceptance. let's put on because i'm trying to. understand the system that oppresses fat. people okay. so an f-bodied person.

what the [ __ ] is f-bodied it's it's what. they identify as now jesus [ __ ]. christ's body. um now we're talking that you got trans. ams up there. and i mean cars not. youtube relax f-bodied activist maybe. just put fat activist in ben don't start. getting [ __ ] fancy with your reddit. terms. let's get a fat activist here to tell us. what the deal is. test holiday but it's an hour i can't. it's too long okay this is the.

difference between body positivity and. fat activism from nylon go to this i'm. interested i want to learn. because this is another community the. gays have left me out and then these. people have left me out should i do this. i'll do this what do i have to say. everybody should be a bowling ball. hi my name is virgi tovar and i'm the. author of you have the right i don't. have to [ __ ] fat people right. because that's my only problem but i'll. get on the board with everything else. because i think people should have to. [ __ ] me keep going. okay is this what it is if fat activism.

is just forcing skinny people to [ __ ] us. i'm into that. if that's if this is a clever workaround. saying that you have to [ __ ] me or i'll. kill you. because you're uh uh that's fine. if that's what fat active because i. genuinely don't know what it is so if. it's just shaming thin people into. having sex with fat people i am for that. keep going. i talk about the differences between. body positivity and fat activism or fat.

liberation. what i've found since body positivity. has eclipsed fat activism is that. positivity seems to be the biggest. i guess demand of the movement the thing. is that positivity isn't exactly a. political resource. so it's important as we're thinking. about moving forward as a political. movement what do we really. want yes and in fat activism the demands. are pretty clear okay body positivity.

doesn't have that same and let's go with. the focus. if they're going to be a part of a. political movement you need to know what. the purpose of the vision and what the. plan of that is what is the plan an. issue i have with body positivity is. that the face of it becomes increasingly. whiter straighter and thinner the more. that the movement gains traction right. people of all sizes all shapes all ages. all abilities all genders experience. body shaming however right like when.

we're consistently focusing on the. people who have the least. experience with structural. discrimination. politically we have to really focus on. who is the person who is most affected. by this issue we all benefit when we. think about the person who is having the. greatest impact third as. body positivity eclipsed fat activism. the question of the movement kind of. went from how do we create more rights.

and a life free from discrimination for. people of all sizes two. how do i love my body both questions are. very important but in. isolation again. i need to know what fat activism is. because they're fat activists sometimes. if you lose weight. they get mad because you've betrayed. you've made them feel worse by losing. weight. i am so confused as to what this is.

because i went on a rabbit hole about. this after i was accused of being fat. phobic. imagine. and i'm trying to find out what fat. activism is because i may be for it. do you understand i could be a very. powerful resource there are a lot of. there are a lot of. listeners out there and viewers and i am. for fat activism as long as i don't have. to touch another fat person so let's. find out what it is i don't want to. touch a fat person but tell me what fat. activism is because i may join it so we.

we may find out at the end of this video. you think let's see. question of how do i love my body is not. complete how can we think about this not. just as an individual experience but as. kind of a collective one indeed and the. way that we do that is we sort of start. to think about you know again who are. the people who are experiencing the. greatest impact of discrimination based. on body and when we kind of think about. that we expand our frame of reference. and our political power and our.

political might beyond just one person. to something that can have this. extraordinary ripple effect on a. cultural level and finally body. positivity. and finally. queso. how great would that be. if she goes and finally. queso. okay let's let's finish this but i i'm. still you haven't done what i've asked i. want to find out what what fat activism. is and this is not telling me what it is.

it's telling me it's differentiating. body positivity from fat activism but i. need to know what fat activism is. i believe it is. that we cannot. here's what i think it is. i think it's that. fat people. get to go around. killing.

thin people which i'm not against. per se. my only problem with overweight people. and i don't have any because i am an. overweight person. but my only problem with fat people is. that i don't want to i don't want to. have sex with them. because i feel like it's monique had. that joke two fat people she had a great. joke i'm trying to find your [ __ ] you're. trying to find my [ __ ] let's just go to. uh uh let's get a fish sandwich or. something it's very funny and and i'm. just uh but i.

want to be involved in the fat activist. movement while. mainly. spending my time with with twinks who. are kept on a treadmill and stuffed with. adderall. but. only because it's i feel like that. someone needs to. show them respect too. but we're not we've we've not been able. to find what if what fat activism is it. says we the plane seats need to be. bigger. and right. and that. fat people have to be celebrated and.

which is great and they have to be. undercover magazines. and things like that. but see you're with fat acceptance but. go to fat activism is what we want. it's also known as right here oh okay. and there's third wave fat activism. you can't find one thing on youtube. about this uh it's mostly like dr rhonda. patrick clips rogue who's not a doctor. can we move on please she's never seen a. patient.

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an answer for what is fat activism. and this answer i like. very much we're going to share it. uh with the audience. anyway. so what fat activism is for me um i've. been thinking and about and working on. the question what is for activism daily. not very much for the past of 25 years. or so you know i still don't have an. easy answer um and it's a question that. i came to in my master's dissertation. which was published as my book fat and.

proud in 1998 which was ages ago now and. i returned to it for my phd. which was a four-year research project. that i finished last november. and during that project i interviewed. about 30 fat activists around the world. people of all different backgrounds and. perspectives many of whom had decades of. experience in. fat activism and nobody gave me a. consistent answer about what it actually. is since they were chewing and so given. this it made sense to me that fat.

activism can be absolutely anything it. just really depends on the context i. like that and this makes fat activism. really exciting because it means you can. tailor it. you can tailor it to what you're. interested in yes all the things that. you enjoy or the things that you're good. at or your very very specific moments in. your life yes and so i kind of thought. that so if i'm just being fat and rude. and nasty in the lobby of a hotel. because i've come down a few minutes. after. the the breakfast has ended. and i'm really giving it.

to the people that work there and i'm. giving it to them good. is that this sounds like that is fat. activism. well i like that. if i throw a fit. an enterprise rent a car. because the car they gave me is what i. consider to be uh. too small. that is fat activism. i'm now coming around to this and. enjoying it let's let's watch a little. more something really big like a street.

protest that's the thing that most. people think of as activism when i talk. to people about it or a letter writing. campaign that kind of thing and it can. be as small as a wink a wink directed at. the right person at the right time yes. well that's that i that i like. what she's basically saying is we don't. need these street protests where. everybody has to walk and chaff. but a wink a well-placed wink is fat. activism.

wink i will wink and make people. uncomfortable and i think that's a good. barrier of entry it's low. so the idea is that a well-placed wink. to the right person is fat activism. so let's say. okay. if i and i've actually done this right. i've been in 7-eleven. and i was eating the big one. the big on is a cheeseburger that you.

heat in the microwave. and you take it out of its wrapper. and i've been with the big on in. 7-eleven eating it you know putting the. pickles through the condiment bar on the. on and squeezing ketchup on it and. biting it and if i choose to wink. at the cashier. i'm engaging. in the important work of fat activism. let's see what else this is really. this is uh beautiful.

and it can involve changing laws but it. can also involve having a conversation. with somebody or wearing something good. and sometimes it's about refusal of. dominant cultural values and sometimes. it's really really ambiguous. some fat activists try and draw lines. about what is and what isn't for. activism but i think that kind of. ideological purity is completely. overrated and i'm interested in those. kind of hybrids. um that people develop for themselves. and kind of try and draw in to make.

livable lives. um my fat activism is a part of my daily. life i don't put on a uniform or an. outfit or something special to do it. right or go somewhere me too um it's. really embedded in the way that i think. about things the work that i do the. people i know yes it's there in how i. walk and how i talk yes and i don't see. much separation between activism and. life right um you could think of it as a. kind of consciousness yes um. sometimes i do stuff that's more.

recognizable as activism. i make things magazines which are small. homemade publications okay like this one. which i have for free you can have a. copy afterwards if you want. and sometimes i write and publish things. like my book and i've published stuff in. well i'm on sitting on the board for the. the fat studies journal it's an. interdisciplinary journal of body weight. and society there's a mouthful for you. how do you get into contribute to books. like the fat the fat studies reader. and also our own beautiful fat studies.

in the uk which karina co-edited. so i do stuff that is activism. and sometimes my activism is very small. and subtle. can be something like breathing. or thinking. or um. hold on.

this woman. just said her fat activism was the act. of breathing. that she could just be somewhere. breathing. and she's being an activist. isn't that. isn't that sort of proving that being. fat isn't healthy. if breathing is activism. aren't you giving away the game there a. bit.

if you look my activism sometimes is. very simple. it's not breathing or getting out of a. chair. doesn't that. suggest. that being overweight is potentially. unhealthy. i'm no doctor neither is rhonda patrick. but i still think. that there's something about breathing. as activism. that denotes.

probably. not the healthiest lifestyle. but again what do i know but all right. let's we we've had enough thank you we. get we kind of get it now it's. everything it's nothing. it's breathing it's winking at people. whatever you want to do. plus size models sent death threats by. fat activists after dieting this is what. i like now this is what i like. i like this. i like a fat person.

threatening to kill. a another fat person who's started to. get thinner. that to me is an interesting type of. person and one that i want to know more. about the person that rosie mercado who. used to be a size 24 and is now a size. 12 to 14 still fat right good. was told to jump off a bridge and kill. herself by people. with people. who objected are slimming down the 36. year old told tmz i got hate mail not so. much from other models just fans that. hated on me. wow.

they hated the thought that i was really. public about my weight loss and i was. losing weight she lost more than 170. pounds. some people love being overweight some. people don't. that's what she says. i think it's a personal choice but. people were not happy. they were sending her threatening. they were threatening they would tell. her to kill herself oh she was 410. pounds too. she was 410 pounds and then she got and. she lost 170 pounds well she's down to.

170 now yeah no go up. oh wow she's 170. wow good for her she. went from four no no no. no. no good for her. no. you skinny piece of [ __ ]. she's. a benedict arnold. there is a movement of fat activists. that do activism by breathing heavily.

yes. but. she's. i can't believe you would say that and. be so heartless. the people. that loved her as a 410 pound. model. want her to kill herself. and jump off a bridge. because she's now down to 170.

the only reason i'm not afraid of that. is people are telling me to kill myself. anyway. they're saying it now. let's just do quickly elon musk at snl. everybody's angry that elon musk is. hosting uh snl. we'll do this quickly uh. elon musk uh and miley cyrus people are. upset on the show they're you know. responding to his instagram stories or. whatever i read this article.

i don't know why he's hosting the show. but i mean i'm not a huge fan of the. show and i don't know i mean they don't. like that he's a billionaire and lord. michael says a lot of money he's got. like half a billion and lorne's a legend. he deserves all his money but i mean. you know i mean it's weird that you. could work for somebody worth half a. billion. and you're like uh. talking about income inequality. i don't know. you think it'll be funny. you think elon's gonna kill it.

i don't know. i think elon's gonna come in there and. light it up. with satirical brilliance. i'm not exactly sold on that but i'm not. exactly a huge uh. i'm not it's not for me. you know right. you said what do you say is gonna do. dogecoin scotch is gonna he might do a. doge father sketch yeah. what does that entail. i guess he's like you come to me on a.

day when doge is we're pumping and. dumping the dogecoin or something like. that that sounds horrible man. i hope it's better than that what you. just described was that your idea of. what a dogecoin sketch should be well. the doge father sketch what else would. it be i don't know i hope it's something. else. that was horrific. god. but. you know. we'll see what happens.

maybe it'll be better than uh we think. you know maybe and then miley cyrus is. on uh musical guest. what about they should have done like. ted nugent. just to really get everybody going. just really get everybody going. isn't lorne michaels a kind of a. republican too there's no way he's not a. republican. wasn't he like friends with trump. whatever i don't know i could be wrong.

elon musk. it's gonna be interesting he's gonna. walk out there. musk is the second. richest person in the country after jeff. bezos. yeah. snl was not available for comment well. we hope everything goes well for elon. and the cast of snl we hope that they. come together to produce. the great show that we know and expect. every week.

on saturday night which is up as our. show is opposite saturday night live. that's why we're a little you know. this is the saturday night live that we. hope that you care about but i. understand if you have to. switch over. to watch uh elon musk do the doge father. sketch. on saturday night live i will not hold. it against you. you only one time though. only one time that'll be a fun after. party huh you think they're doing an.

after party. doing snl after party with elon musk. just walking around. talking to. people on the show. he's got a lot of money. what if. elon musk did an entire. they should do a rogan sketch where like. elon like smokes weed. and they got to have somebody play joe. rogue like have bow and yang play joe. rogan.

and then have elon get high again. and say something about vaccines get. them all. that's what i say. well you can use that that's a free. suggestion snl writer's room you can. have it and i won't get mad i will be. very happy if you go with it and if you. don't go with it just know that you have. angered a fat activist. and i will not be. silenced. and now i'm going to go back to my. activism.