#246 - I Love The CIA (with Whitney Webb) | The Tim Dillon Show

ladies and gentlemen welcome to the tim. dillon show we are uh. we just got back from a uh. meeting not a meeting what is an. engagement mm-hmm with one of the bigger. tech people here in austin. yeah and uh it was a lot of fun we've. got whitney webb later on on the show. uh talking about some things coming down. the. pike with the vaccine passport.

and um we met this dude through a mutual. guide he was a nice guy brilliant guy. very smart very successful um when we. walked in. he felt i felt like he didn't really. know us or knew who we were what we did. um i think he only has a slightly better. understanding of it after the two hours. but we played pickleball which is a. game it's like uh it's a cross between. tennis and ping pong and it's very. interesting when you meet like. high-powered successful people a lot of.

times they're like do something athletic. in front of me let's see if you can do. something. uh do you have a competitive edge do you. want to win you know it was like that. kind of. they said there was going to be a lunch. we walked in there was a hummus and a. strawberry so it was like not exactly. but that's fine they're healthy that's. what they eat you know what i mean tech. successful. it was a scene from ex machina is what. it was but it was lovely it was lovely. and um. you know the house is you know. tremendous and beautiful and uh and then. they go let's play some pickleball do. you guys play pickleball and i was like. i don't really know what it is but i'm.

sure um. i will do it and then um it's a cross. between. tennis and ping pong so you have it's. like a court in a gym. and you're playing uh pickleball and um. me and ben of course are gonna play. together but then they said well you're. both beginners. you should play with the other people. there so we did. and it was now you look at me and you. look at bannon you're like oh ben. he's going to be the athlete ben was so. bad at this game. and he kept cheating by going into this.

area where you were not supposed to go. into. um it was so embarrassing. now they're in gym clothes me and ben of. jeans on cause we didn't really know. it was raining we didn't know what was. gonna happen and um. i was doing pretty damn good like a few. of the other people they were like. you're gonna be really good at this i. had a great you know because i. i play tennis as a kid a little bit and. i i know how to really just kind of. hit the ball just have it sail right. over the net ben was aggressively. you know we're playing doubles and ben.

was aggressively trying to. like hit the ball in front of the other. people and then just failing miserably. at it. did you know how bad you were doing i. charged the net a couple of times it was. embarrassing. did you feel how how bad you were doing. i had a couple were you shocked who told. you that. well i can't say his name but he he was. not. i was doing very well you were great at. serving. very good you know what you know what.

see this is what he's trying to do. i was doing really really well okay. i do what i do well and ben likes to. pretend he does everything well. i was i'm an amazing server and then i. could also do the volley but i also feel. like after i've done the serve. i should be done for the point i don't. want to run around the court like a. psychopath. it's unbecoming of a man of my stature. so i do the serve and then the other. person runs around like a monkey. and then i was good at returning too.

he's being a piece of [ __ ]. because he was he was genuinely. embarrassing and there's a. these are really rich successful people. judging us and the pig is murdering it. running around the court doing what i. have to do uh and then. this guy's uh uh family walked in and. then they were all staring there. watching ben just. wildly run around and it was so. it was hard to see it was hard to see. for me because i felt bad for ben i was. embarrassed for ben.

we'd never done anything athletic before. and you. you thought you were thinking that i was. just gonna not be good at all. that's not true at all that's what you. felt no i know but what happened. yes pipe down what happened was. i was phenomenal i was pretty damn good. the guy looked at me and said you are. going to be very good at this. the other guy the main guy said you were. good when did he say that. he actually said twice he was like wow. that was really impressive when i was up. there like i had a couple times where it. was. that's one isolated thing that's not a.

review of your performance for the. entire day. it's what you did one or two good things. i don't think i missed a serve though. like i didn't i didn't had to serve out. of bounds though i had the services. i was just saying between me and you. would you argue that i did a little. better. uh oh wow overall yeah overall you won. more games. well that would be that's they care. about winning. you understand what metric are you. deciding i won more games what metric. are you going off of. um inner belief.

well anyway. after the game uh we hung out and ate uh. hummus and it was nice it's a matcha. delicious yeah so matcha it was uh uh. lovely meeting new people here in. uh austin texas and um. you know we're not influenced by anyone. ever on this show we're never influenced.

i've nev i've never in like i am never. influenced. by anyone on this show like i like i. meet successful powerful people all the. time. but i'm never like a guy who's like oh i. should start evangelizing on the behalf. of anyone. i never felt that i've never felt that. you know what i mean yeah. i i do and this is unrelated this is. an unrelated point i was thinking this.

morning. about what a great company palantir is. while i had my eggs. and i just i woke up and i said what a. great. company it is because they have all the. information. of the people and that's what you want. you want you want all the information. to be in a place and i think that's.

they do it good they do it well. so i'm a fan of them yeah great. investment. it's a great investment yeah i also. would like to say. i like the central intelligence agency. i like them they're efficient. they're mysterious.

and i think that we have to relax when. we are. um always with the bringing up the bad. things they did in the past. enough with that stop that. there everyone's made mistakes when i. was young i kicked my friend. i wasn't becoming of my character that's. not who i am. so i like the central intelligence age i. like. it and i think it's good.

and i don't think you should. be upset if people want to listen. to what you're saying on the phone. or read your email i don't. think that's a problem i don't think. it's a big deal. i don't think it's a big deal if people. know what medications you're on and if. they need to be refilled. i i i'm okay with that.

and you should be too. i think we asked too many questions do. you understand. i understand what you're saying and i'm. just saying i'm an independent. broadcaster who has thoughts. that are in his head that he says them. they are not given to me by anyone and. they are. i am not influenced by anyone. but god damn it if jeff bezos isn't a.

great [ __ ] guy. he's a great guy. and i i want things to be delivered to. me and. with a drone right yes. that's what i'm saying i'm saying those. things and only those things. mark zuckerberg gets a bad rap. he's a sweet boy who's created a thing. that's a little wacky. do you understand.

jack dorsey is a fine man he's a fine. man he's created a platform that makes. me feel better about the world and our. ability to. have a meaningful dialogue i love you. jack. do you understand whoever owns. page i love them the patreon uh people. you are good p hey eric schmidt. these are i i'm just saying.

that i lo i love people in tech. i like them i think it's important that. we. get off their back get off their back. i like that they don't have an. expression all the time on their face. i like that i think that's nice how many. people do you meet where they have a. when you look at them they have an. expression and they go hello or and you. see. oh you're happy or you're sad or you're. embarrassed i like when there is none.

i think it's refreshing i think it's. modern. i think it's modern i think it's very. modern. when someone looks at you and does it. you can't quite tell if they are. if they're real i like that i. i enjoy that that's what i like. you don't the people are so caught up in. like. oh i should be able to say what i want i. don't think so. i don't think so i believe.

that you should get a list of words that. you can say. which will be shorter than the ones that. you cannot and that'll make it easier. for you. i i'm just saying i am saying that i'm. i am not i have not been co-opted at all. okay at all i'm just. saying. that i'm. i want to get the vaccine.

more than twice. i'd like to get it six or seven times. is what i'm saying do you understand and. a lot of people are like. oh oh you're in texas and you're meeting. all these uh. people and you're you're they're. influencing you no. no that's not it i'm realizing. how lucky i am that there is an industry. taking care of me.

taking care of us all they're taking. care of us all. thank the lord i like it. i like people pooping in the street. i don't think it's a big deal i think if. if you think it's a big deal you should. start a company and buy a house. out of the city but i think people. should be able to poop in the street.

sorry i'm a humanitarian. okay so i wanted to get that out of the. way because people are always. nervous how and and when we'll be. co-opted. so there's not i just want to let people. know there is no. fear of that at all no fear of that at. all. okay let's do an ad break here we do we. do have an end hold on hold on let's get. it. let's get the end here. the tim dylan show is proud to be.

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clue about it it would. scare us all i apologize for that. i also apologize for continually. bringing up the epstein angle with bill. because bill had no idea what jeffrey. was doing. i'm a fat opportunist who likes to link. people's. is a long head who likes to link people. together that had nothing to do with. each other. it is because i am fat and i am not. thinking clearly that i have. constantly brought up previous. associations with uh jeffrey epstein.

i am sorry i want to take this. opportunity to apologize to. bill melinda and warren buffett for all. of my transgressions. and i am excited to welcoming them as. sponsors of my new show. where i will be vaccinated on the table. in front of everyone. so i think it's important that people tr. know and trust us you know what i mean. and that's. because there's so many people out there. right now in the entertainment business.

that are. you know people don't trust them but i. feel like we have to kind of. show everybody that just because we're. in austin and just because we know some. of these people. we have not changed who we are like our. core beliefs and values which have. always been a deep love of the. intelligence community. and and big pharma why are. you know are do you people really so. lucky you are. with the pharmaceuticals that.

you can get them when you are young and. keep taking them for your entire life. do you realize how lucky you are many. people don't have the chance. to begin a regimen of adderall at three. and then take uh puberty blocking. hormones. at nine and then graduate to. lithium at 12 and then. keep going on a cocktail of different. medications. until uh you're in a grave it is so.

nice i just want to throw that out there. i just want to throw that out there. because i think i've been very. hard on the pharmaceutical industry um. i've said that they're selling us junk. cures for products like you know for. problems that they've invented. and i want to say that i'm dead wrong i. am dead. think of this everything i have said. before today i have been dead wrong. dead wrong and.

i realized that i i have realized that. i've been dead wrong i think chelsea. handler's doing a good job with her. documentaries about. uh black people. i want more of them i want. more of her content. i i believe in her.

and her mission. and if i've ever said anything on this. show that makes people doubt that. it's because i'm uh a bad. person but i'm trying to get better at. that. do you understand yes i do. do you understand now since we left this. person's house my cell phone has not. worked.

and i don't i think that's a coincidence. right yeah probably there's something. odd with my car. when i turn it on it makes a weird sound. but i don't think that any of that. is related. do you think we'll be invited back i. hope so they were lovely they were very. fun i had a great time. what are the chances i think 50.

okay okay. what do you think um i don't know. i'll get better at pickleball in the. meantime but i hope so. i just want to use this opportunity. why are you why are you i'm not i'm not. i want to use this opportunity.

to talk about. my love. my love for. elizabeth holmes. she made one mistake you know. one mistake that's all.

you know. why are you all you're all nervous now. i'm not nervous at all. why are you all nervous i'm not nervous. i don't know. you're very nervous you think they're. gonna kill you. you think they'd kill you you think. they'd. waste their time remotely hijacking your. tesla when you and your wife are going.

to get oysters. at whatever dump is in austin. you think they'd waste their time. killing. you are you have you not. lost your mind. if they're going to kill anyone it's. going to be me. i don't want anyone to kill you. that's true would not be good.

but i was i was i did all the ads that i. was supposed to do. so i don't think we're going to have an. issue. do you think so i enjoyed it and i hope. we're invited again i love our new. sponsors i love our new friends. i and i was wrong to question. why bill gates wanted to shoot a missile. of dust at the sun. that was a mistake i'm sorry about that. i think he i think he should shoot a. missile of whatever he wants at whatever.

he wants. i don't you understand that i want my. audience to know. that i have integrity okay. is there anything else we didn't cover. we're doing this bitcoin conference. we are doing this until that email comes. in tomorrow. but we can't we're doing it when is it. can you get the ad this is a real ad. june oh. let's do that let's go right into an ad.

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an answer party that i'll be opening up. for i i don't even know what's happening. here. this event will be the event of the year. it's going to sell out get your tickets. down go to b. tc what now b dot tc. conference i'll put it on the screen. right here and it'll be in the. description yeah go to b. dot tc slash conference promo code tim. dillon. 10 off your ticket price am i selling. tickets to this. yeah yeah but am i getting anything from.

that. well you're getting paid to do the. bitcoin conference yeah but i mean. that's not what that's not what i'm. gonna. get people to come to this and then go. if you wanna see if you wanna see me do. a live pod we have no idea. what's going on or what we're doing i. mean that's not the greatest sales pitch. but i genuinely don't know we don't know. but it's going to be fun. because it's always fun yeah yeah but do. you know what we're doing. not a clue right neither i don't know if.

your agent doesn't know i don't know. what's going on but. we will be in miami and we're going to. do. a live podcast and then i'm moderating. an event. and it looks like you might be doing. stand-up at an after party or something. i don't know. no one has said anything about it come. learn about bitcoin and celebrate life. and freedom at the bitcoin. 2021 conference b. dot tc forward slash conference and use. the code tim dillon ten percent off jack. dorsey is going to be headlining.

on twitter is he a bitcoiner yeah yeah. they all are. they all are it should be interesting. i mean i'm wondering. i'm wondering how this is gonna go. you know. like are we gonna be podcasting in like. a half pipe that tony hawk is like. skating in. i don't know. i don't know how this is gonna go.

you may want to come and see it to just. see it because i genuinely. do not have an idea it'll be funny. certainly but i don't know. what's gonna happen this will be way. more fun than like a comedy festival or. something 100. yeah i am hoping yeah i believe so. it's a real cultural moment a live tim.

dillon show from the biggest bitcoin. conference. i mean it's going to be wild they're. going to talk about everything right all. the coins. dogecoin uh i'm where i want to wear. like a dogecoin. shirt well this one might specifically. just be for bitcoin it looks like oh. okay. but what if i have the dogecoin dog on a. shirt have a little fun. that could be a big hit yeah i mean we. gotta figure something out here.

we gotta we gotta do something something. if we put him on the shirt. people can see we're putting the work in. here you know. what else can we do because that was my. idea. do you have any ideas you brought to the. table. well my idea is i i would like us to do. the live podcast with garyvee. i think that would be amazing invitation. to garyvee if you allow me to i would. love it. i would really like i don't know if he's. gonna do it if you know gary let him.

know that. we'd like him as a guest i will pay. garyvee money to be on the show. at the bitcoin conference it will be a. lot of fun. it will be like he could coach me as to. how to like start a business. [Music]. what i'd like to do is get garyvee and. bring my friend ryan who's a recovering. heroin addict. to the conference and i'd like to have. gary instruct ryan on how to start. a business that would be. that would be my goal if i could get.

gary vee. to instruct my recovering heroin addict. friend. on how to build a brand. that would be my goal but it is a weird. like we don't it's gonna be interesting. but we don't know. we don't know what's going to happen are. people going to sit. and listen i i think. it's like a ted talk thing but with. bitcoin like people are going to sit. around talking i mean but to our podcast.

yes yes i believe so we should get a. guest. who are we going to get for well my idea. was gary vee. um i noted i guess noted another guess. could be little xan little zen. yo like bitcoin. but i'm dead serious shouldn't we have a. guess. oh. you're the producer of this show you. went today and made a mess about.

pickleball. you lied on the show and said i did you. mean you did nearly the same. we did not you blew a lot of high high. profile things i blew a few of them but. you blew some serious. and i had an amazing serve people. noticed that i had a skill set. yeah i was a little bit chaotic in my. skill set. you were really all over the court and. you kept cheating. you kept going into the kitchen which is. the thing you shouldn't go into that i. was wearing clarks though. if i was wearing tennis shoes i could. have stopped on time yeah i mean. everyone's got a story.

but you know that area right by the net. you kept going into and cheating. what about roseanne like i'm dead. serious oh amazing can we fly roseanne. to the bitcoin conference from hawaii. sure. i don't know what we're gonna we gotta. do something here. i'm dead sir paying us money we got to. figure out something. what if we get chamath.

to explain bitcoin to roseanne. something like this has got to happen. i'm telling you. we need to get. somebody who needs to explain bitcoin to. someone else who's completely. off the planet that's. the fusion i want to make i want to make. this happen. i want to take a bitcoin expert maybe.

i'll just get one of my friends who's. like from long island who's just. completely shot i don't know. but that's what needs to happen here. whitney webb is coming up she's going to. be here to discuss. getting thrown off of patreon. why that happened she's also going to. talk about. vaccine passports why she's skeptical. that the maxwell new charges mean much.

we told her we'd have her back if the. maxwell thing goes to trial which we. don't know if it will or not. it's supposed to in july yeah we'll also. be. the we got an episode with stanhope on. the patreon right now the higher tier. because we we kind of [ __ ] them over. we didn't mean to. uh we were going to do a big long. episode with doug and put it out. this week but it just didn't work it. just kind of went off the rails at the. end it was like. this was what we could do here we can't. you know.

um but we'll be back there lovely people. love them both. doug and bingo um we'll be back there. uh so we got that rocket and rolling we. got live dates a lot of them are sold. out the. majority of them are sold out um and we. got more being announced all the time. the world's opening up and. uh we're out there having a lot of fun. or. just doing what we have to do as a job. you choose. your choice some of it is fun but you. know. i hope this is fun what about aj.

i was kind of thinking that or like. maybe even you know they're shutting. alex jones down they're not letting that. happen. cause what about if alex jones like. charged jack dorsey. on stage he's like you [ __ ]. and jack joyce like who the [ __ ]. brought alex jones and it's like oh the. comedian that we hired. it would be really cool if we like snuck.

alex in he stayed at our hotel. and we got him like to enter the back. door he just like like the kool-aid man. just popped into the conference. yeah well now that we've yeah no one. will figure that out now. you just put that plan out there dum-dum. well no i mean it's it's clearly it's. clearly. uh a situation where i we need to bring. in a guess who else. you said alex and then you were thinking. of somebody else oh um. maybe someone's like i was thinking like. not just like maxwell of course.

because she's not on bail but i'm trying. to think of someone. we also can't talk to a human trafficker. for goofs. we can't bring on a human trafficker for. a bit people would get angry at that and. rightly so. like yucking it up with just lane. maxwell who's tortured children. there's got to be some line what about. rogan should i email rogan. text him email him a formal offer then. we'll pay him 1500. to appear. hear me out okay hear me out yeah yeah.

hear me out. are you ready yeah yeah are you ready. do you know what i'm about to say no how. well do you know me. very well almost as well as anybody. probably better than anyone that's. exactly right yeah. who am i gonna say [ __ ]. what about. eric weinstein.

in a world why not that would be the. absolute perfect. gig perfect guest why not. how about eric brat. eric brett heather jordan peterson. michaela peterson sam harris. barry weiss.

roxane what gay roxane gay. i don't know i don't know anymore. what if we just had the wine scenes on. we talked about trans people for three. hours. people like what does this have to do. with bitcoin talk about the coin we're. getting tackled. we're like puberty blockers they're like. talk about the [ __ ] coin. we're here to make money.

we should talk about what a great troll. to talk about something completely. unrelated. there's something that's nothing to do. with it we're just talking about the. kennedy assassination for an hour. to go yeah that was not the room for. that they really went off the rails. we just what if we bring sharon osborne. in and get her drunk. and have her just [ __ ] go crazy. shouting asian slurs. amazing you know this [ __ ].

wontons. my [ __ ] people. piers morgan john mcafee. he's not going to step on salta's u.s. soil right. yeah he's like still on the run steve. bannon could be interesting too. steve bannon at a bit now that'll be a. major story if he would do it the. conference people would probably get mad. they don't want to politicize it maybe. i'm wrong maybe they're friends with him. i. have no idea they probably are behind. closed doors but. in front of those doors they're going to.

act like you have no idea where he is. all these billionaires stopped. pretending they didn't know who trump. was when he got elected it's like wait. what. um matt gates what about matt gates. what about donald trump jr. dt june. i think he'd do it trying to think who. we could get that would actually be good.

for like for the show. what if we had like. it's got to be someone in that world. well yeah i mean if john mcafee can step. on u.s soil. he would be legendary if we give him. some white russians and just let him go. right he's amazing right. well anyway as you can tell we've we've. planned out a real big. great event and we've dotted all the. eyes and crossed all the t so go to b.

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even in here and i don't know. and he goes he goes but i need underwear. to cradle my junk. you see he also learned about underbar. underwear uh the day after he shot. ben azar budo in the face. after he shot ben azar budo in the face. he learned he was sitting in a cafe. in karachi pakistan and he said i wish. something would cradle my junk right now.

and one of the afghani warlords was like. we can get a child to do it he's like no. no i'm not into that. so they said uh you should invent an. underwear. i'm doing the ad the way they want i'm. just hey i'm just. following orders. sheath underwear dot com 20 off. use the code tim we have to say that. we have to say that okay now whitney.

webb. ladies and gentlemen welcome to the tim. dillon show uh returning. favorite uh she is the tech community's. favorite reporter when are you gonna win. that award when are they all gonna get. together and give you an award. uh for being the the tech community's. favorite reporter. uh from an undisclosed location. whitney webb your now i want to go into. this with you first. what happened with patreon oh man okay.

so that was going on actually while i. was moving countries. so i just left chile for the first time. in like six years. uh and i'm going to live somewhere else. now and why all of that was. happening uh patreon sent me an email. saying. i was going my account was set to be. suspended if i didn't delete. certain posts um for medical. misinformation they said but. they have it's like a scripted email so. they had. here are the examples of misinformation.

we found on your page and they left it. blank for me. i actually tweeted this out other people. that had um. gotten this email from patreon have had. like links examples of the alleged. misinformation on their page provided to. them. uh they left mine blank so i responded. and asked. and they provided links that instead the. things that had never been posted on. patreon. but things that had been posted on my. website unlimited hangout including some. that i'd never even written. claiming that uh patreon's community. guidelines.

apply to my personal website so wait a. minute. because they sent you links. from articles some of them that you. wrote. but some of them that other people had. wrote yeah that were on just my website. and they were saying if you don't delete. those articles. then you're off patreon yes and i am off. patreon because i'm not going to delete. them because there's nothing factually. wrong with them. right and they you know declined to say.

what was wrong about the articles. uh you know on their website on. patreon's website the only examples of. medical and misinformation they're going. to censor for. are things like drink telling people to. drink bleach. and telling people that uv light is the. same as a covid19 vaccine. and stuff that like you know i would. never say on my site and stuff like that. but. i'm not the only one that got censored. uh in this way like james corbett of the. corbett report and ryan christiana the. last american vagabond were also taken.

down. uh under this new policy uh james. corbett's. especially you know cites literally. everything he says and has never been. wrong. i never had to retract anything so it's. really amazing. that they went after him as well but all. of this is about. any sort of reports that were critical. of the vaccine. so in the case of uh in my particular. case with patreon they were most. uh unhappy about an article about the. oxford astrazeneca vaccine that i wrote. in december. and you know fast forward a couple. months i mean i think it's over 20.

countries now that are no longer easing. that vaccine because of safety concerns. and that article was about how the. people that developed that vaccine. have a history of doing really shady. things in their safety trials and. including this one but i was talking you. know about about. past examples and also the fact that one. of the developers of that vaccine is uh. gave a speech and is deeply uh connected. to individuals that are part of. something called the galton institute. in the united kingdom which is the. renamed british eugenics.

society they used to be the eugenic. society until 1989. i guess thinking that having eugenics in. your name was fine. i liked it until 1990 they were like. we're still going with this. eugenics name because maybe there'll be. a turn in public opinion right. and but they named it galton after. francis dalton who's the guy that came. up with eugenics and talked about how. there's a need to improve racial stock. in the west and all of this stuff so. you know they're apparently still fine. with it so i thought it would be you.

know it's obviously newsworthy the guy. developing this vaccine. uh that they were marketing specifically. uh through kovacs into. you know um like third world countries. and stuff like that was the one. that was being developed by a guy with. links to this institute and that had. this. uh you know uh questionable track record. i mean everything there is like sourced. exactly where i get it from you know. like all of my articles so. it's ironic it's ironic to say the least. that this gentleman. is behind the uh astrazeneca vaccine.

and that was the article that they had a. problem with. yes uh but they wouldn't say what was. factually inaccurate and in their. original email they didn't say. they didn't even give me an example of. misinformation they just sent me the. notice. um saying that i was going to be. suspended into the platform. um and you know obviously. that has an impact on what i do um you. know. for most of last year until i saw the. writing on the wall a little bit with. patreon. and created a backup you know to be able.

to. financially support myself and my. website you know if i hadn't done that. uh last year you know patreon doing this. would have completely shut me down. well we want we want you to plug that. right now where can people go and. support. uh you now oh well since patreon shut. down for people that don't want to use. the main alternative i've been using. which is a. rock fan r-o-k-f-i-n um where i have my. podcast and some other stuff. um directly through my website on on. unlimited hangout we basically set up a.

a patreon equivalent like on the site so. there's like you can. there's posts and it's sort of like a. forum thing and you can comment. uh that you can join by signing up with. really like any amount for like a. monthly thing. just like patreon yeah there's something. very strange about. patreon censoring people for off. platform activities. meaning that it's not necessarily what. you did on patreon. it's an article on a website did they. give you a time limit did they say you. have 48 hours to delete.

no just kept following emails uh like. one or two being like just wanted to see. if you've deleted those articles yet and. then when you don't delete them they say. oh well i've suspended your page. um and then you know it goes it goes. away right. but you know this is a really insidious. form of censorship because. it's attacking the finances of the. content creators directly. um as a way to try and prevent us from. being able to. you know uh do this professionally you. know.

yeah and i mean listen it's uh we're the. fourth biggest show on patreon and and. and and i am that we are number four. right ben. and i am in the world right i believe so. yeah yeah. um and i'm highly critical and i don't. have any direct contact with them do you. ever speak to them. they don't let me talk to anyone it's a. very good idea ben handles everything. because. when i talk to people i mean you think. you think you were thrown off quickly. they've been very polite to me they've. been very kind.

we bring in a lot of money over there. but i'm highly critical. of what they've done and especially in. your case. like that to me you're not. i think what they're trying to say is. your articles are gonna. uh you know make people less likely to. get vaccinated now here's a reality. people have to have access to. information the people are gonna have to. make decisions based on that. um if they can point out factually. where you are lying or misrepresenting.

something. or uh slandering someone but if. if they cannot show that there are. there are like lies or distortions in. your article. and you're just giving facts that are. uncomfortable that they may not like. to then remove you from earning an. income that. is to me not. the right thing to do well one of their. follow-up emails after i challenged them. on some of the stuff they said was that.

they didn't necessarily find. misinformation. in the article but that the article. may have dissuaded my audience from. taking what they called a. preventative counter measures to um. you know uh go again you know. counter the pandemic or whatever no so. they were basically saying. they didn't like how people may react to. the information in there not that it was. necessarily wrong well that is the. argument that.

they are making and a lot of people. online are making is that. people um i mean this is the big. question right we all know there's. misinformation online. all over the place but then if we censor. everybody. who decides what information we get and. how we get it. and then it's usually the same people. that told us the iraq war was a great. idea. which i believed but i was on cocaine at. the time um. and they and these are the same people. that told us that.

uh you know uh that it was a great idea. to set up a labyrinth of. secret torture prisons that that was. necessary for our safety. that the patriot act was necessary all. these whether it's the new york times or. the big three networks like. they are they still want to control the. information and now it's those tech. companies. that are stepping in in place of these. broadcast networks it is now. tech that wants to control what. information we get and what information. we look at. but here's the thing you know if your.

public health measure is largely. your your campaign around it is largely. based around coercion. that is necessary that that's going to. lend itself to people being. hesitant about partaking in it and. you're saying that 20 countries now. don't use the astrazeneca vaccine. well yeah um or some of them suspended. it for particular age groups like under. people under 50 years old aren't going. to be taking it anymore and stuff like. that but there have been a lot of safety. concerns that came out that didn't show. up in the safety trials that were also.

after my article criticized by. mainstream media outlets. because they weren't conducted well and. they were sped through or the the data. was manipulated i mean all of this is. public record. but i guess if you put you know you. aggregate all of that negative. information and you put it together. you know i it may have a different. effect than just one. you know mainstream media report on one. case this is what happens. with your work a lot you'll write. something and then. six months later when it's safe the. media will write about it. and it could yeah yeah.

yeah i mean it it it happens that way uh. but. you know a lot of times uh people wait. to speak up about something until they. feel it's safe and that won't. necessarily impact their career. um that you know if they're a journalist. coming at this from you know. sort of the careerist perspective hoping. to ascend up the ladder but really at. this point at least the way i'm looking. at the world you know. this information has to come out now um. because. not just of the censorship environment. but where things are heading.

now a lot of stuff yeah sorry no the the. what i what i. the hot issue now is the vaccine. passport. this is the big issue that everybody's. talking about uh naomi wolf. was on tucker carlson and she was. talking about now she's a feminist. writer naomi wolfe right yes yes yes she. is. um i always mix her up with the other. naomi naomi klein but it's naomi wolfe. was on tucker carlson talking about this. and saying this is much. more than just a vaccine passport.

and i wanted you to talk about that. because i know that you've looked into. this. and it's a contentious issue there are. some people that dismiss. any concerns about it and go anybody. that has any questions about a vaccine. passport is a lunatic. and shouldn't be listened to and then. there are people. uh uh where where i am where i go i. don't really know what a vaccine. passport is. i don't know that i trust people to tell. me what it is. in your estimation what is a vaccine.

passport and how could it be used. okay so what we need to understand about. the vaccine passports they're promoting. now is that they were never. they're not intended to stop with being. vaccine passports it's something that's. going to be much more expansive and. extensive. if it gets its foot in the door so i'm. back in january i wrote about something. called the vaccine credential initiative. a public private partnership uh with. microsoft oracle sales force of the.

mitre corporation a us government. contractor. all coming together to create the. framework for vaccine passports of. course a couple months before. there's this big public uh push but they. called them smart health cards. and called them vaccine wallets um and. this is basically the. the framework that a lot of these. passports at some point will be. um running on some of the ones in use. are already running on this this. protocol it's interesting they call it a. wallet. because the developer of this uh this.

framework at microsoft talks about how. you may need to show your vaccine. passport to be able to rent a car. someday in the future and of course them. using the term wallet. uh implies that this is going to move. into economic activity at some point. and if you look at for example bill. gates is gabi the vaccine alliance. they've already partnered with. mastercard. to combine mastercards digital payment. service with. gabby's uh digital vaccine card and. they're currently piling that in africa. uh the gabby mastercard thing in.

combination with a company called uh. trust stamp which is biometric identity. so basically what these vaccine. passports are intended to be. is a a digitized vaccine record. uh plus a digital wallet and then a. biometric id. all in one yeah why is that why is. mastercard involved i mean call me. ignorant here. and many have but why is mastercard. involved with a. vaccine passport what why would you need.

any type of financial like why would. they need any of your financial. information that confuses me. it's a partnership to have everything. moved. to these mobile based uh systems i guess. where it's a it's a biometric id that. gives you access to your money. through your by providing your. biometrics your face your fingerprint or. whatever and then also has. a vaccine your vaccine registry but. really it's not intended to stop at. vaccine registry it's intended to be. your electronic health records and.

basically have it all. uh be there tied up together and if you. actually go and look at the vaccine. credential initiative and the stuff they. talk about and their partners talk about. i mean it's really obvious that this has. been the plan. um from the beginning and you know this. gabby. mastercard partnership is just one but. it's worth pointing out that a lot of. these same actors including mastercard. are part of something called the. council for inclusive capitalism uh. which is uh. supposedly headed by the pope but has a. mastercard and visa and some of the.

biggest companies in the world. wait a minute there's a council for. inclusive. activism uh capitalism capitalism headed. by the. wait a minute headed by the pope yes. officially and it's about redesigning um. a new system. a new economic system uh for everyone in. the world under the moral guidance of. the pope. uh yeah and so you have the ceos of all. these really.

when did that get going well it gets. better. it really does now some of the people on. there are lynne forrest or derose child. the jeffrey epstein bill clinton. powell is on there reimagining. capitalism for everyone. um and then you have the lotter family. from estee lauder like ron water. yeah was one of these mega group. billionaire guys that i wrote about in. the epstein series and stuff so like. there are so it's you know it's funny. it's reimagining capitalism but it's. people that capitalism's worked very. well for.

yeah yeah like why would they want to. really reimagine. capitalism they're doing quite well well. this is about the stakeholder capitalism. idea that has come in that has come out. from the world economic forum and that. this. pope-led council is is promoting and. basically what they want. is uh you know basically global public. private partnership to be the. model of governance globally and of. course public private partnership. basically means. you know the public and private fuse. together. there's another word for that that has.

been used historically but this is what. they're going around promoting. and saying that it will but under the. guise of it being called stakeholder. capital what's the. so now what's that what's the pro word. that's been used historically fascism. yeah well yeah um. and you basically have one entity that. is the power that you cannot challenge. and has a monopoly on force and right. and the production of goods and. everything else i mean. chris hedges calls it the corporate. state and he said it's the most powerful.

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imagine they're coming it doesn't seem. like there's. much of a fight here i imagine they're. coming. they're going to have. information about your health records. your. any sickness that you may have had your. mental. uh health if you've spent time in uh. you know any medications you're taking. this is farther. farther down the line i mean they're. gonna start off with less information. first but they admit that these these. initial ones.

um are just a starting point they plan. to expand it later. if you go and watch the people that. design the the frameworks and. protocols that all this stuff is going. to run on uh they basically tell you. what the intention is so you know first. off with the kobit 19 vaccination you. know it's this little paper card it. doesn't look very threatening. and now they're talking about you need a. vaccine passport well they're already. saying. people are going to fake vaccine paper. vaccine cards and paper vaccine. passports. we need to tie it to biometric identity. they're already saying.

that we have to combine it with that. before they even rolled out the vector. so like a retinal eye scan. little retinal eye scan but facial. recognition is really pretty ubiquitous. in the us and western world. i mean most people online a lot of. people unlock their phones with their. faces now. i do yeah we all do most of us do. well i don't but somehow okay. well they know who you are anyway you. don't yeah i know i mean. that's not why i just feel like i'd feel. bad if i did it you know considering.

what i write about and then no of course. i get it i get it i just i just hate. typing in that little code. that so this becomes part of the pro. part of the problem is i love what you. write about but it just. it feels like the weird and i want you. to keep writing about it. but it does feel like we're gonna lose i. do feel like if it's a council of people. led by the pope. and the louders and the rothschilds i me. and my friends are gonna lose. what gives you any hope does anything. give you any hope ever. uh yeah well i think there is actually.

going to be a lot of resistance to that. and yeah. to this i think it's important to keep. in mind that what you're seeing on. social media. what you see on mainstream news and the. news in general is so manipulated to. make you think a certain way i mean so. are the polls. so for example in the uk um they were. saying a vast majority of the public. supports vaccine passports. and it turns out the polling company. called ipsos mori. its ceo is part of the world economic. forum and they recently received almost. three million pounds in funding from. bill gates.

so you know those are two big backers of. vaccine passports that company is a. conflict of interest. to manufacture consent for vaccine. passports and we know that they've like. manipulated polls for public opinion in. the past i mean the 2016 election all. the polls were wrong and said hillary. was gonna win. she didn't win right so there's like. this huge effort underway to manipulate. public opinion. to get us to go along with this but also. to make us think that. uh you know if we don't want to go along. with it we're the minority. right and people are uneasy about this. if you talk to a lot of people they're.

uneasy about the idea of vaccine. passports they're uneasy about this. stuff. and they are really open. and they should be and they're open to. questioning it and they are questioning. it privately. people aren't questioning it publicly. for fear of like retribution. um biden's new secretary of health. or not secretary of health someone in. the bible administration. uh epstein funded or a buddy of jeff. yeah. yeah well so um it's the ah it's the.

white house office of science and. technology. um and for the first time biden because. he you know. is going to be the administration of we. believe science or whatever. is going to elevate this post to be a. cabinet level position where which it's. never been before. so basically it's going to he's going to. be the person in this post is going to. be elevated to you know a secretary of. uh defense secretary of health you know. a cabinet level. position um and yeah this guy that. they've nominated is a man named eric. lander who leads the broad institute.

which is basically. um mit and harvard and silicon valley. uh figuring how they can harvest as much. biometric data from you. uh and use it to train ai and all of. this stuff um but eric lander before. then you know was photographed meeting. with epstein jeffrey epstein bragg on. his website. about funding his work and he has never. been held to account for it. right now he's about to be nominated to. the highest science posts in the land. of an administration that says we're. going to do whatever the scientists say.

and this is the scientists that they're. putting in their top post a man that was. funded. uh by jeffrey epstein and denies it and. lies about it despite there being. evidence of the contrary and mainstream. media has like not mentioned it at all. um and i am worried that if more people. don't know about this they won't even. question him about i've seen at the. confirmation hearing which would be. just i imagine they i imagine they won't. what do you think about these new. charges. which is lane somebody's saying that. she's now finally being charged with sex. trafficking a minor.

and they've expanded the scope of the. inquiry into. uh other periods of time that could be. more damaging to people. i'm a little skeptical uh just because i. really think uh. the more you look into the epstein case. you know i'm writing a book about it. uh the deeper you go into it the more. obvious it is they can't really let. glean. uh go to trial or at least they can't. have the trial be. as extensive in certain periods uh. because they're going to incriminate. themselves really.

um you know as i've talked about before. in my series uh the fbi. uh the national security intelligence. communities you know. uh of the united states where he knew. what i've seen was doing and we're. involved with him too. um in an extent that really uh needs to. be you know. well understood by people so you're. basically having you know. a lot of the same entities that. previously worked with epson and delano. help protect them. now prosecuting them they're not going. to get their hands too dirty because it. can it will make them look dirty if too. much information comes out.

so um um i'm trying there's been a. couple new cases that have come out or a. couple new claims in the fc case in. general not just with delane. um i've had uh some of the epstein. victims that i'm in communication with. have expressed a lot of skepticism. at least about this one that said that. she was almost uh. i've seen threatened to feed her to. alligators and and all of this stuff. that was recently. reported on uh by the i think the miami. herald uh they were pretty skeptical. about it just saying that the the. behaviors. subscribed to epstein there didn't.

really match up um at all and this has. happened before because there are some. people that think that they can. you know make money um out of this whole. uh scandal you know there's a lot of. grift related to epstein. that tries to profit off of his victims. um and. and things like that and um there have. been people in the past that. you know it was pretty obvious they made. up their encounters with epstein based. on. um saying things that he everyone he. knew friend or victim or whoever. uh said he would never do and never had.

had done and stuff like that so. you know some of these newer cases. they've expressed skepticism. right about what's what's going on here. and you know. um i think these late latest charges. against galen was because uh just. because of how the. sdny prosecutors had constructed her. case up to that point. her lawyers were apparently in a. position to potentially get the whole. case. dropped which would have been super. scandalous uh. for the scny and definitely led to a lot. of uh. not necessarily public unrest in the.

streets but you've been getting a lot of. heat and a lot of angry people about. their handling of that case. if that had come to pass so i think they. did have to sort of slap her with um. with bigger charges because last time uh. well i came on your show after she was. arrested and we talked about it a little. bit i noted how in the indictment they. admitted. that she sexually assaulted uh the. victims. in in that indictment they but they. didn't charge her with sexual assault. right why would you not charge her for. that so i guess you know they. save those charges uh for later and here.

they are now. when is her trial when is her trial. scheduled to happen do we know um i. think it's in the. beginning of july i think it's i can't. remember the exact date i'd have to go. back in. and check i have a couple months right. so you have a couple months. when do you think your book is are you. gonna are you waiting for her trial. to to add to the book or are you trying. to is the book mainly about what. happened before. they were caught so it it's mainly about. what happened before the. new information is coming uh out all the.

time. and i'm actually worried they're gonna. start censoring i've seen related. information from the internet as we get. closer to the trial so i'm just trying. to like amass a lot of. information about particular things. before they can do that because the. censorship. is really bad and i think they want to. um you know it's not just very. people talking about current stories and. current events on youtube or wherever. but they actually want to go back and. censor things like the way back machine. that they've already started. messing with and things like that um as.

far as my. uh when the book comes out it's it's. currently scheduled to come out just a. couple days before the trial but because. of uh. i had to move across countries and the. situation in chile before i left was. really crazy so i couldn't even get. child care. uh because of what's going on there so. right so yeah we may. have to uh delay it a little bit but we. you know i'll be making well i'm living. in austin texas now and you're always. welcome to come here and visit and all. of your friends right now. every day a new tech company moves down.

here so maybe we could get you a few. speaking gigs. all right so it's rockfin rokf. and also what is the website. unlimitedhangout.com. whitneyweb off patreon we're not happy. about that. not much we could do about it other than. say go. uh support whitney if you enjoy her work. she's written the best articles. about epstein and about a lot of. different things and you go into.

territory that people are afraid to go. in. too and that you're like a muckraking. journalist that's what you do. you rake up muck is that fair to say. yeah i mean i i guess so um i definitely. rake up muck and try and tell people. about it and. about all the muck you know whatever i. find i just i put out there in the. article i mean it's up to people i think. to draw their own conclusions. yeah stuff and to me as long as you're. not distorting things. factually i don't i mean to remove you.

off the platform for an. off-platform activity that was not uh. a bunch of distortions it was here's. factual reporting. that may be uncomfortable and people may. draw their. it's very interesting to penalize. somebody based on the conclusions. their audience might draw from an. article that gets as close to. thought crime as you can get but it's. also in a way you know uh. criminalization i guess in a sense or. sending the message that you will be. censored for criticizing a product of.

big pharma. really um because basically the vaccine. here is a product so what if they apply. this to other things. um at some point you can't criticize. this right. you know i've always talked about that. i've always said that it's very. interesting. you know the financial industry they had. bernie madoff. so bernie madoff was this guy that. supposedly. uh he's you know lee harvey oswald he's. a lone wolf that existed unto himself. and. you know it's there's no comment about.

the larger system it's bernie. and now we have the sackler family who's. you know uh. uh made oxycontin and everybody goes the. sacklers at oxycon and listen they're. demons no doubt but the idea that it's. like this. one family that we can isolate and draw. a line around them and go. they're the problem it was bernie madoff. or is the sackler family. and criticism of anybody else in pharma. means you're a hysteric or you're an. anti-vaxxer or you're a lunatic.

if you say that um you know there's a. lot of people right now getting in. trouble for uh. criticizing puberty blockers for. children that are identifying as trans. saying. that there's you know they're. questioning the the. um uh you know rationale. for prescribing uh very strong drugs to. children who are going through. uh a gender identity crisis there are. people that are. that i remember when adderall came out. in ritalin people were going. wait a minute should we be medicating. children.

in the way that we are medicating them. and often. i have seen uh throughout my life. whether it's anxiety or depression. we are a heavily medicated country. um the root causes of of most of those. issues anxiety or depression a lot of. times. they can be uh situational a lot of. times they have to do with diet. a lot of times they have to do with. hormonal things people going through. that they just don't understand. um and we dismiss all of that and our.

answer for everything is a pill. and that to me has been i've always been. skeptical of that. and anybody who questions that we don't. really the pharmaceutical industry is. something that we barely. uh understand their power they have a. ton of power we always talk about. the national security state or oil and. gas or. whatever but or attack but. pharmaceutical industry is they're big. dogs. and they usually get their way well yeah. and they're also tied to the national.

security state. as well it's worth pointing out like. donald rumsfeld before he was secretary. of defense for uh george w. bush was head of a major uh. pharmaceutical company gilead. right that happened and was basically in. this revolving door between the pentagon. and big brother that's an interesting. overlapping skill set to have you are. the ceo of a pharmaceutical. company and then you're the secretary of. defense. god yeah it is a little odd. i wonder if the public remember the pope. who resigned.

it would be funny if the pope who. resigned i forget his name. was now just like the ceo of astrazeneca. like a pope like has a pope ever gone. into. being the ceo of a pharmaceutical. company soon we'll have that we'll have. ex-pope now leads gilead whitney webb. thank you so much. unlimitedhangout.com rockfin. to to to listen to what the podcast. yeah i have a podcast on there i have. some video stuff um there's so much.

material coming out every day. about the crazy orwellian uh crap that. is going on. a lot of it behind the scenes and. doesn't get coverage so i'm probably. gonna have to move the video or some. other stuff to get some of these smaller. stories out more quickly. because writing does take a lot of time. and i also just uh you know moved eight. thousand miles across the world. right well we appreciate i always. appreciate you coming on we'll have you. back on uh during the trial let's see if. we get to the trial of just lane. we'll have a special whitney webb uh.

exclusive trial maybe we can watch. do you think that there's no way there's. cameras in the courtroom right no way. no well they haven't even allowed. there's still no mudshot. of the lane i i really doubt they're. gonna let um you know a big public. presence of any sort. uh in in her trial or it'll even be in. person. um also for uh you know um litigation so. far and she's been you know. present via zoom and stuff like that so. yeah. she'll be out in a few years and she'll. be running a pharmaceutical company.

probably and she'll be telling you about. the important. tech companies with her sister and i. think i've mentioned this before. isabelle is the technology pioneer of. the world economic. forum which is uh behind a lot of this. stuff so. well i'm sure she'll find a place to. work they're a fun family and i'm sure. galen will be out there. telling you about the importance of. vaccine passports whitney webb thank you. again. everybody that likes what whitney does. go support her on her website unlimited. hangout. and on rockfin and uh we're glad you're.

you're still out there waking up mock. thanks. all right thank you whitney.