Marina Is Wrong About The Best Bond Theme

Hello Marina. >> Hello Richard, how are you? I'm very. well, [clears throat] looking forward to. answering questions. Soon we're going to. do an episode where we're not answering. questions, so we are again on the. lookout for questions from our audience. This time for. Tom Hanks. Heard of him? Yes, cinemas. Tom Hanks. >> Yeah, from the movies. The guy from Big. You know Tom Hanks, smash. Yeah. Tom. Hanks, they got him. He has had a long. and amazing career and we are taking any. and all of your questions and we're. going to be talking to him fairly soon, so get them in, please. To.

therestisentertainment@goalhanger.com. After such a question. >> the way we always have to look at Joey. We've done [clears throat] this so long. It is, he's given us the thumbs up. therestisentertainment@goalhanger.com. Any question you've ever wanted to ask. Tom Hanks, you never ever let us down. with those things, so. looking forward to that. But should we. get on with our questions now? >> Please do. Bridget Mayor or Bridget. Mayer has a question for you about the. roast of Kevin Hart, which is on. Netflix. Why are Americans obsessed with. roasts? It seems quite an arcane format, but the Kevin Hart roast on Netflix.

looks like it has been a great success. It has been a success. The roast format. is basically comedians taking the piss. out of somebody else. In this case also. a comedian. Yeah. But not always. It's. funny, we think of them as I don't know. whether it's just that our whole British. culture is like this. So we don't. actually feel. >> [clears throat]. >> we're always taking the piss out of. everyone and putting them down. So we. don't really feel the need to have a. dedicated thing, whereas they're always. building everyone up. But every now and. then they like to have a sort of A safe. space. >> space. >> [laughter]. >> Where they can say the worst things. imaginable. >> are. I mean,

genuinely shocking. The Rest Is Entertainment is presented. by Octopus Energy. Now, celebrity. culture has a way of taking very small. preferences and promoting them until. they require a lot of paperwork. Yeah, it's like the first time you ever go on. a show and you say, "Oh, could I have. some sparkling water?" And then like. forever it's like, "Oh, he has to have. sparkling water. He must have sparkling. water. It's very, very important." And. that's what we call the rider. >> The rider. Right, in some cases the. rider didn't stay sort of practical for. long, you know, it started as a wish. list and then it sort of strayed into a. kind of a hostage note from the ego.

There was a point in J. Lo's ego where. she was having like, you know, you know, the white drapes, the white candles, the. white absolute everything white flowers, white, you know, sofas, everything. Most. people don't actually need a rider in. this life of ours, however, but there is. something reassuring about not having to. specify everything twice or more. >> of my absolute favorite things about. Octopus Energy. If you ring them about. anything, your number is recognized and. you'll go through to a team who deals. with you and have dealt with you before. So, yeah, you have a a team, they. recognize your number, and you go. through to people who you don't have to.

explain the same thing to 15 times. You know, I mean, Kevin Hart is sitting. there listening to all of his. impenalities be listed. People like. insults comedy. They they really like. it. The reason I like them is because I. think I just really like jokes, and if. people have crafted a a beauty cuz, you. know, you don't have long. Lots of. people are coming to the microphone, you've got a short space of time. So, and it's kind of a it's a competition. It's like sport, but amongst comedians. >> say the worst possible thing here, but.

but it's still be funny. Yes, you really. look awful if your thing is cruel, funny. enough. You actually everyone just. thinks, "Oh, and Or if it's it's. interesting, there's there's sort of a. if X then Y that. you have to absolutely balance it that. if it is incredibly cruel, it has to be. incredibly funny. It has to be what. always has to be one degree funnier than. it is cruel, and then you get away with. it. >> I agree with you, and there there are. lots of. So, what's so nice about it is that. there's that sharp writing, there are. callbacks, there's it's only one night.

I mean, it's like a million, we live in. a kind of reaction gift thing of we've. discovered, and people like watching. people's reactions to things. Will the. target take it? That's the thing. It's a. it's a sort of the comedy of awkwardness. as well as the comedy of insults. You. can see what fans do like, and they do. like deadly precision, as you say, not. cruelty. It used to be always a Comedy. Central thing. Comedy Central used to. have this thing entirely sewn up. And. actually the biggest rating ones of and. the most memorable kind of cultural. moments with Charlie Sheen, that is the.

number one. Now, that was because he was he he had. that extended pub he has had a number of. public meltdowns, but this was the. really extended one. It was totally. unpredictable and it was before. audiences actually became fragmented in. the way that they are now with. streaming. And also as a comic there are. four or five different angles you can. come at. Yeah. And it's happening now. It's like a new live news story. Um the. Justin Bieber one is is a huge kind of. is is probably the next down from that.

There's a Trump one. And then some are. not successful and people it just it. feels off for some reason it never quite. catches fire. And there's a James Franco. and a Bruce Willis one, but they've now. sort of gone to Netflix. They don't. happen that often. Yeah. Because it's. [laughter] quite quite a lot of it. >> Tom Brady. The Tom Brady is immense. It's far it did far better of than the. Kevin Hart one even. Tom Brady in America is so famous over. here you have to like sports. >> you know the iconic quarterback. He's.

like Beckham for America. >> Yeah. But. exactly. And it's there's something. about sports audience they bought that. bought in a sports audience maybe that's. something slightly different. He is huge. as you say. There were really. uncomfortable moments in that. I mean. there's a bit when he says don't say. that again to so. But that has those elements that as I. say that you know it is unpredictable. You know that Kevin Hart's not really. going to he's going to be able to handle. it because that's his job. He's had a. million worse things shouted at him.

maybe less artfully, but he has. In a. weird way I found it was quite a it was. a bit of a marmalade dropper when Tom. Brady comes on in the in the Kevin Hart. one because the Tom Brady one is the. more iconic one, but I do think that. people do think the world is sanitized. and lots of and perhaps the reason it. maybe has kind of cross-cultural appeal. if I can put that in a kind of. politically neutral way even though I am. really talking about politics is because. people think oh hang on anything goes. here. This isn't being censored. It's.

it's not a sanitized well. >> This is very very unsanitized but. because you are in an American tradition. that you know that there are no rules. and the gloves are off. >> Yeah. Culturally they get it they get. away with it which is why I found it. really really interesting cuz there's. stuff there's material there that you. would not see anywhere else. Everyone. has agreed. everyone on stage has agreed that. they're going to do that. Everyone. watching signs a contract that is oh. it's a roast. So we are all in this. space where you go oh we can literally. say.

any joke we want and they really do say. any joke they want. I yeah so I like I. like it and it's all on one it's on one. one person but actually there was a lot. there's a lot against other comedians. Those real comedians got took quite a. pasting. Once you went to a real comedy. festival but you know I do have a a sort. of weakness for those sorts of things. and I think that in the culture when. they're so super revered I always loved. Ricky Gervais's opening monologues at. the Golden Globes which were so brutal. and. they and they just didn't really know.

how to deal and also you never know. who's coming for next and that so. >> [laughter]. >> you just people sitting there having to. smile glassily while he's saying you. work for the most disgusting companies. in the world you work for Apple, you. work for Amazon. And they all just have to sit there on. their artistic night. So I like all. those things but actually what I really. like of those things is the craft is the. there's such few words in a way and just. to kind of make it funny but also. incredibly vicious. I I think they're. they're great but I think it's just in.

our culture just we do it all the time. so maybe we would That's exactly it you. know we're we're used to doing those. jokes. I mean these go further it's. definitely I've said before I'm sure. that the rudest joke I ever heard on. television was aimed at Joan Rivers in. her roast. I mean something. absolutely extraordinary. But it it is. yeah. they're of course. you know what you can. joke about on terrestrial television. when you know you've you've got. responsibility to to an audience is sort. of ring-fenced and this is one of the. few occasions where you're outside of. that ring-fence and everyone agrees so.

we just say look what they're just going. to do it for tonight. Do not watch if. you are offended at all by anything. for sure. But I thought it was a very. interesting watch for lots of reasons. A. question from David Richard. I've read. that Jimmy Fallon is going to be. producing a new game show based on the. Wordle puzzle game and due to air on. NBC. The detail that caught my eye was. that it would be filmed in Manchester, England. >> [clears throat]. >> Do they really film American game shows. in the UK? What's the attraction? Yes, they do. We'll get on to what the.

attraction is. It probably won't shock. you but we will get on to that. Yes, so. Wordle they're they're doing over here. with Jimmy Fallon which feels. weird to me because. one of the biggest game shows in the. world is Lingo Yeah. which is sort of a. TV version of Wordle but whenever we. announce any TV show people go oh that's. just like that and you go no. >> [clears throat]. >> we thought of that I promise you. That's. just you know so I I imagine it won't be. the same as Lingo. Yeah, so they're. filming that in Manchester. It it is. become a much more common thing.

recently. There's. a couple of reasons. You'll do certain. shows like this golden elevator show I'm. doing where every territory in the world. comes to the same place that happens to. be in Belgium just cuz that's where the. Because that's where the set is and. that's where the yeah the production hub. is as well. So that's often the thing. that happens. But more recently yeah. Americans have started taking their. really high volume series. to the UK. So recently I I was talking. to a brilliant producer who I've worked.

with for years and years Michelle Woods. who's just done Trivial [clears throat]. Pursuit. and Scrabble in the UK. They're both. American I mean, they've absolutely. nothing to do with the UK at all. They're both from American networks. Craig Ferguson did did Scrabble and. LeVar Burton did Trivial Pursuit. They. again filmed that in Manchester. Manchester, England. Manchester, England, yeah. I don't know if you've. heard of it. Uh funnily enough, this. always happens. It's it's probably. Salford. Yeah. >> Cuz that's where the studios are. It. will be Salford, yeah.

>> be Salford, but they, you know, I guess. they the Americans think that they can. say Manchester people would have heard. of it. So, they'll they'll they'll film. those things in Salford. Um the reason. for doing it, and by the way, this is. not a sort of, oh, let's find some. Americans who live in Cheshire and bring. them in. All of the contestants come. from America as well. You get the odd. one who's from the UK cuz it's a bit. cheaper, but it is cheaper for the. Americans. to fly over members of their public. >> every single contestant, every single executive, every single.

person from the channel, every single. member of a production team it's cheaper. to to fly them over to the UK, have a UK. production team make it. They know that. the UK production team will make it, you. know, Michelle and her team, they can. make these shows. They're brilliant at. it. They know it'll be brilliantly made, and they know it'll be cheaper, and it. is I mean, it's a union thing. I mean, it is just. an awful lot cheaper to do it over here. It is cheaper to fly every single person. over here, film four or five a day in.

Salford, fly everyone back home, and then put it. out than it would be to do the whole. thing in America. >> Unbelievable. Uh and it's yeah, it's. this is quite this is actually quite. quite a recent thing. That that thing of. having a production hub like doing Total. Wipeout in Buenos Aires, that's been. going for years and years and years and. years, and that's when you've got a big. set. But the set of Scrabble or Trivial. Pursuit or this is I mean, you could. literally put that anywhere. Just put. this idea that, you know, you're going. to shoot 100 shows, and you're going to. go over to Salford to do it because it's. just going to be cheaper for you in.

production terms and in labor cost to do. that. That's a sort of new thing. As. always, as a great supporter of the UK. entertainment industry, I'm all for it. I suspect if I was a. an American entertainment AP or. researcher, I'd be less for it. It's. good business for UK production teams, and it's good business for American. networks as well, and there'll there'll. be more and more and more of it. But, it. is weird. Yeah. It is weird, you know? There it is. That's the international. nature of television now. Question for you, Marina, from Jake.

Magary. Big fan of the pod. That's how. do you get That's how do you get your. question in? In fact, that's That's all. he says. >> [laughter]. >> So, big fan of the pod, question mark. Big fan of the pod, ahead of its May. release, the title song for 007 First. Light by Lana Del Rey has been released. My question is, what is the likelihood. Lana Del Rey thinks she made the song. for a Bond film, rather than for a game? Okay. With Lana Del Rey, she is She's. very, very great and smart. Various. people know who know her, tell me. She. is has got a very fascinating mind, so. you can be sure that she knew exactly.

what she was doing. She has submitted a. a Bond song before, and it She wrote a. song for Spectre, and um they didn't use. it as they used that Sam Smith. >> Oh, yeah. Writing's on the wall, which I. think is the only Bond song that ever. went to number one, maybe. Yeah. >> Okay. Yeah, you know more than me. And. Lana Del Rey, she's got that voice, hasn't she? She'd be great. I I have a. weakness for the Bond My prefer my Bond. themes to be sung by women. There's. something [clears throat] about it. I. don't I don't know I don't know why it. is what it is. Yeah.

>> Um I prefer the Bond to be a man, and I. prefer them. It's so weird that you didn't say that. to Paul McCartney, but anyway. Well, I mean, that's not one of the. great Bond themes, and I didn't bring it. up. >> Whoa, you don't Sorry, you don't think. Live and Let Die is one of the great. Bond themes? >> don't. I I have a I prefer the ones that. are women singing in that kind of. slightly kind of moody, noirish, ethereal way. >> your mind? >> No, I haven't. You don't think You don't. think. Wow. You don't think Live and Let Die is. one of the great Bond themes. >> It's it's a it's a very very good Bond.

theme, but I prefer If you think I think. it's as good as Skyfall, don't be. stupid. >> I like Skyfall. >> Skyfall is brilliant. Skyfall is. everything about the movie is brilliant. The everything about it. the tone of the movie, the whole sort of. story about what's happening and Adele. is so perfect. Yeah. >> Three best Bond themes are, in my. opinion, Skyfall, of course, Live and. Let Die, and Nobody Does It Better. I. was against I knew you guys would Nobody. Does It Better, you're correct, on. Skyfall. And. um.

oh god, what um I don't say like. Diamonds Are Forever or something. Don't. go obvious. >> No, I'm going to. Sheena Easton All Time It's All Time. High. I know that was Rita. [clears throat] Coolidge. You said it. >> Rita Coolidge All Time High, sorry. All. Time High is great, but it's too up. Okay, let just leave it with me. I'll. come back at the end of the episode. No. I love it, but no. Okay. >> Um anyway, so can we get back to Lana. Del Rey for just a minute? >> Well, no, cuz I my mind has slightly. been blown by this anti-Paul McCartney. rant. Right. >> [laughter]. >> He's a friend of ours. He's a friend of. the pod. I It's not an anti-Paul McCartney rant.

I just prefer. I I just prefer when women sing them. Okay. >> for some reason. Understandable. It's James Bond, not Jane Bond, love. You know what I mean? Okay, so th- this. Lana Del Rey one who um I think this one. that she's done for the game is written. by David Arnold, who's the original. composer for Bond. Scored, I think Not. the original. >> No, no, but he's an original composer. for Yeah. And I think he scored four or. five films. And the the really good. people are involved with all these games. now. It's like extraordinary. What do we.

know that has happened? They It has been. acquired by Amazon fully. They have. control. We know they're going to be. building out into a universe. I would. say that doing that song and make And. the song is great, by the way, if you. listen to the song. It's called First. Light as well, and it's um it's really. good if you listen to it. But again, this can be a springboard. She. She doesn't really need to get in with. them cuz she's already done things for. them. But you can definitely see Lana. Del Rey doing a Bond track at some. point. And also, there will be more Bond. tracks. As you can see, there's they're.

going to obviously we're not going to be. just seeing one film every how however. long. There's going to be many different. different parts of this universe. There's going to be series, there'll be. TV stuff, there'll be all sorts of. things. And you know, that's not to say. that they're going to completely over. flog it and over farm it and whatever. I'm not suggesting that. I know a lot of. people worry about that. They haven't. done it so far. We'll see. But, there. will be many more opportunities. And I. 100% think her vocal is very suited to. it. >> And also, you'd imagine the house style. would be they would have original songs. even for the spin-offs because that's. >> They'll Of course. Of course. It's one.

of the It's one It's part of the whole. It's part of the furniture of who they. are and what how they do it and all of. that. So, yes. So, the good news is Lana. Del Rey knows what she's done and she. knows what she's doing. But, what about. Oh, hang on. What about Gladys Knight? Yeah. What about it? >> Okay. I I agree with you. It's All Time. High. No, I didn't say All Time High. >> What did I say? I said A Spy Who Loved. Me. Nobody does it better. Nobody does. it better. Yeah. It's an absolute And. it's also an absolute classic Carly. Simon song. >> Yeah. Agreed. I Skyfall without any. question.

>> We need a terrible choice for number. three. Are you not just going with. something like License to Kill? Me? I. I'm not No. Are you not just going with. Gladys Knight. the two time singing License to Kill? No? I don't think so. I think that Chris. Cornell and Morten Harket would like a. word. Okay. If you had to have a man in there. It would be that Yeah, it would be that. Oh, hang on. What about I mean, Louis. Armstrong? Yeah, that wasn't an an official uh that. that was like an outro one, yeah. >> I mean, it's not Duran Duran, let's face.

it. >> Okay. That's fair enough. We can agree on some. things. Uh yeah, okay. All right. Let's just put it to a vote. What is the What is Top three. Top of. our listeners. Top three of our. listeners. We will send it out to our. members. Okay. Members, you'll be able. to reply to that. We'll we'll email you. And then you can vote on your top three. So, that will actually be quite. interesting. I think I'm I'm forgetting. things. In the moment, I'm forgetting. songs. >> Cuz but we also said that there's a lot. of work for our listeners to do cuz on. Tuesday's episode, they have to answer. the question of have you heard of a a.

phenotype or have you heard of Big. Break? That's not what the question is. You'll see what you're doing with that's. a form of false polling. It just depends. entirely how you answer question. Anyway, let's go to a break now. >> [laughter]. >> This episode is brought to you by. Lloyds. Now, I love it when characters. are part of a club. You wouldn't know. anything about that, would you, Richard? >> The Thursday Murder Club in some ways. reminds me of the A-Team. I would now. like to map each of those characters. onto the A-Team and feel I probably. could. I mean, Elizabeth is Hannibal and.

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>> [laughter]. >> Helen Smith has got a question. >> Save us, Helen. My husband and I love. the Great British Menu, she says, but. we're baffled by judging day. How long. does it take to film and how do the. judges manage to taste so many dishes in. a single day? Eight mains or desserts in. one day seems almost impossible. I love. that question, Helen. Thank you, because. it is there's a there's a lot going on. in Great British Menu. By the way, that's very quietly been built into such. an important franchise for the BBC. It's. incredibly impressive what they've done. So, I asked Sarah Eglan, who's the.

executive producer of Great British. Menu, Helen, and I'm just going to read. out what she said verbatim because I. love it when producers tell you about. Yes. >> put their shows together. Sarah, thanks. you for your question, Helen. She says, "It takes a whole day to film each. episode with four chefs cooking in the. morning and four chefs cooking in the. afternoon. Tom Kerridge actually goes to. a nearby gym and has time to do a full. workout and shower before returning. >> Wow. >> the middle of the day, that's his secret. to making more space for the calories. Our food is served hot, which is not. always the case on these shows. So, once. the chefs say the food is ready, it.

takes under a minute for the food to. leave the kitchen and arrive with the. judges. One of the challenges for the. crew is filming Tom's plate before he. finishes eating [laughter] as he is an. extraordinarily fast eater. No judge has. to finish their plate, but most plates. return to the pot wash empty. We have a separate serving which is used. for filming the graphic shot of the dish. and the crew take it in turns to eat. this afterwards. So, that is quite often. they'll have a lovely cutaway of the. dish and they'll do a like, you know, a. lovely shot of that. That That will be. done like race across the world when the. crew go back to, you know, the route and.

do lovely GVs and everything. Although, one time Andy Oliver accidentally ate. the remaining pieces of a beautiful. sharing loaf before it had been filmed. Andy, during dessert finals, do we have. teas and biscuits on standby to help. with all the sugar? >> [laughter]. >> And this is the one lunch break where. the judges might join the crew for lunch. to get more savory food into their. system. I could do dessert day without I. wouldn't need a single bit of non-sugar. >> yourself. [clears throat] Yeah, I. already have. You're a professional. That's the. that I could do. Sarah, if you're ever. looking for anyone, the mains final, I love this. The mains.

final is not for the faint-hearted. >> Hi. >> [laughter]. >> That's Marine. >> I can Yeah. Uh Uh, in fact, he's a. friend of yours is on it. I was. momentarily worried we might kill. national treasure Sir Stephen Frears, who judged eight main courses with us. None of the chefs buy their ingredients. They submit the recipes in advance and. our home economics team supplies all the. food within our budget. Some chefs do. use their own money on presentation. props, but spending a fortune is. discouraged as if that chef wins, we. won't be able to replicate it at the. banquet finale episode when the. production supplies all the presentation.

for 80-plus guests. The Great British. Menu moved production to the Midlands. over 7 years ago, so we rely on. persuading famous people to come to. Stratford-upon-Avon for the whole day. I. didn't know it was in. Stratford-upon-Avon. I didn't know. either. I love Stratford-upon-Avon. Yeah. You're you'll be visiting. relatively soon, I believe. Yes, we're. going to see Mark Rylance's play. I. really want to see that. >> Yes, look, anyway, this is. absolutely by the by. We're talking. about Great British Menu. And our. studio, Sarah says, is the old Teletubby. studio. I still remember Peter Hook, the. the bassist from New Order, being a. fantastic and hilariously entertaining.

guest judge during the music-themed year. but dessert finals some years ago. Dessert finals. I know I just watched. that. He explained he'd be able to eat every. last crumb of his eight desserts as. sugar was now his acceptable drug of. choice, but he was done for speeding on. the way back home on the M6 and it might. have something to do with all that. sugar. That is fantastic, Sarah. Thank you so. much for those. She she sort of answered about four. different questions there but I loved. all of them. Marina, question for you. from Tasha. Tasha asks, "When two.

high-profile celebrities start dating, do their respective managers team to. agree on how and when they'll go public. with their relationship? I'm thinking of. Kim Kardashian and Lewis Hamilton. Is. Insta official now old hat?" Okay, that's interesting. First of all, I. don't I mean, those two, I don't think. he would think about things like that in. quite the same way. She would think. absolutely how with a team about almost. how everything she does, but that's just. perhaps the nature of the the person. In. the old days, you know, it would be. quite simple. You'd be photographed.

together. Maybe then you people started doing. joint magazine features about their. their love paid for. >> Yeah. The Beckhams had a press. conference to announce their engagement. It's really weird watching that Take. That documentary that was recently on. Netflix, which is really good. They just. did press conferences for everything and. you suddenly thought, I forgot that. actually rather than having a way that. they could instantly do something and it. look really good online and all of this, they would sit at a sort of long table. with a tablecloth on it. >> Yeah. >> [laughter]. >> And it didn't matter whether you were. engaged or Robbie was, you know, had.

left the band or whatever it was. Done. in this one way. >> hall. Yeah, in a hall. It's really weird. looking back at it. It suddenly seems. such a period piece even though it was. kind of recent. So yes, there was a. whole vocabulary for all of this, as you. know, like the soft launch. Now the soft. launch. >> launch of of a relationship. >> Of a relationship. The soft launch, you. know, the sort of breadcrumb reveals. So. you might see someone's shadow in a. picture or crop photos or you know, they've been quite obvious and a little. bit so that you'll say, "Oh my god, but. who's been cropped out of this picture?".

>> [clears throat]. >> Paul Mescal for as an example. There's a. whole relationship theater to Instagram, isn't there? And and the way that people. talk about it, you see them using these. terms in real life. I remember Taylor. Swift talking about people saying, "Oh. how ridiculous that people would think. we were hard launching our. relationship." But I thought, "Oh my. this vocabulary has just become. completely normal now." Again, we talk. about this all the time, but it's like. the the whole decoding culture, the. kind of open-source intelligence thing. where your life is a curated public. narrative. It does increase engagement, so you can see why Kim Kardashian would.

really string out the amount of time. before she did something formal. So and. it also shows just I think how much the. platforms have inserted themselves into. all of our interactions. Modern. celebrities. can treat these moments as branding. events and as fashion editorial moments. I wouldn't be surprised if her and Lewis. Hamilton definitely do something. together, but also work. >> a relationship? Like if if you're. literally if you're two single people. and you start going over you know and. you've had a date and then you go oh you.

know that. film you were talking about you know. it's on next week you fancy going to see. it and you have another date and then. you kind of go oh we're sort of hanging. out. a bit more and you kind of think oh. maybe we're going out with each other. But. you know how how does that physically. work then you go well when you talk to. my manager. about that. >> they talk all the time about that they. do well they just they spend a long time. trying not to be photographed when they. don't particularly want to at the start. of things for definite cuz that's just. that's hustle and nobody wants. And if.

they're both famous they both know. They. both know. and then they you know often they're. very successful in keeping it completely. away I mean every now. but eventually and in the old days. people used to tip people off so they. would get the first photos would not be. high on the front of OK magazine we're. going out with each other it would be. paparazzi photos. But every now and then. it is a bolt from the blue like we had. to do a whole item on it when it. happened cuz it was so funny literally. and Billy Ray Cyrus. Every now and then you're like excuse me. what? Still going as well right? That. was the everything launch all at once.

all all the launches all at once. But. and it's hard to explain to like. Gen Z or Gen A that it this didn't used. to happen and to the as I say the. platforms are so inserted in life that. even Brooklyn Beckham who's constantly. talking about wanting privacy and to be. away from it posts. incredibly frequent updates and pictures. of his relationship all the time. >> that amazing. again going off on a tangent but the. brilliant comedian Al Green on. Instagram this week has has launched his.

character he's called Jackson Benson. and he's he's sort of pretending to do. his who who am I thing for Vanity Fair. and it's it's so funny but it's it's. very very Beckham adjacent but he's also. got an indie rock band called Jackson. Benson and the Boners. And it's it's really it's very very. funny. >> I'm obsessed with Cruz Beckham and the. Breakers I just want to know who's in. the Breakers. Yeah. look like they're. 30-year-old guys. I'm just. >> [laughter]. >> It was just the stuff. But I I just any info information on the.

breakers, I want to know more about the. break the breakers. But anyway, so. basically just sort of summarize it. Relationships used to be revealed by the. tabloids. Now they are serialized by the. participants themselves, basically. So. there might be first thing might happen. might be rumors, then you might have. grainy accidental sightings or Yeah. >> in the back of other people's pictures. who tick them off or who who really. didn't control it on purpose. Then. there's all the sort of social media. breadcrumbs. But this is a form of fan. engagement. And even if they don't say.

it out loud, this is about being always Yeah, this is. about being always on. If you're a. female, you know, pop star and. you don't you don't have to release. something every you're just sort of. always there. Things are happening. There are plot lines. There's, you know, the series is continuing. >> you used to be able to see it on. Twitter, didn't you? When you'd see. couples sort of forming to go, "Hey, comment a lot on. his Oh, now she's coming to his." You. think, "Oh, that's nice." But. non-celebrities. Yes. But now it's Now. it's a it's a much more But when they're. both big stars, it have This is how then.

I think you you have the soft launch, then the hard launch, then the joint. branding. As I say, I think Lewis. Hamilton and Kim Kardashian will. definitely like you'll see them together. for like Moncler or something like that. And they'll do an ad campaign probably. at some point, who knows, maybe. Or. they'll do so maybe not an ad They won't. do an ad campaign, but they'll do. something perhaps together. And then, you know, when it all goes wrong, the. the the joint the silent unfollow. Oh, no. Or the breakup statement. Oh. And that But these are the This is the.

new theater of it all. And if you look. at someone like the Biebers, Hailey. Bieber and Justin Bieber, it's almost. has all been done via their Instagrams. They are married. They have a child. She's got She had about eight products. in her Rhode's skin care. They launched. with eight products. It became a. billion-dollar brand. They sometimes do. things together. He's had a finally he's. had a. IRL appearance at Coachella and it's. gone absolutely massive. But really the. entire thing has sort of been sustained. off is their relationship working out?

Is it not? All. almost entirely a digital fabrication, a. digital soap opera. I assume so. And then he's had this. thing and then he managed to sell. absolutely masses of units of his. various products at the time. And that. is a kind of quite a. classic template now. Which as I say would have seemed. completely nuts a few years ago. Imagine. Jane Austen writing a novel about it. I. would read that. That'd be amazing. Well, it I mean lots of had you know lot. of things like letters. I mean it's like. epistolary.

She would she would decode that stuff in. a hot minute. What's Dangerous Liaisons. if. the book if not if not you know an. epistolary novel about. people scheming and plotting and you. know trying to influence each other? Rita Ora unfollowed him. Yeah. That's us done I think. Please please. please if you have questions for Tom. Hanks do send them in to the Restless. Entertainment at goldhanger.com. As you. know it's fun when you get your. questions asked to these it's it's it's. a really lovely thing. So if you if you.

have anything you've always wanted to. ask Tom Hanks that you haven't heard him. be asked before then please do. You. always come up with a good so thank you. for that. Your wonderful bonus episode. with James Kangasooriam came out. yesterday about tradwives. I recommend. everyone listens to that. The first. episode of that they'll they'll be bonus. episodes from here on in but the first. one is free for everyone. Strongly. strongly recommend that. >> He is mega interesting and I am. interested. Yeah, and how is that. sitting across from someone that you. find interesting? You know I never don't sit next to.

someone I've. someone I find interesting. But it was. really but you you know But this is. actually really interesting. [laughter]. It was different because it was it was. he was able to poll people on I know you. wanted to get some polling always done. live just my earlier this week you. wanted to get polling done live in the. episode. He would have been able to do. that. Yeah. God he sounds amazing. Wow. >> Anyway, listen to it it's really. interesting on tradwife and tradwife. content. Yeah, listen to that.

sending your questions for Tom Hanks and. otherwise we will see you next Tuesday. >> next Tuesday. >> [music]. [music].