Are We Too Obsessed With Celebrity Hair?

I have a question for you that I think. you'll like from Ali Olsen. She says, "I've seen Taylor Swift's new haircut, it's now shoulder length, reported in a. ludicrous number of tabloids recently. Is this just Swift mania at its most. boring or her previous celeb haircuts. cause a similar storm?". >> Oh my god, Alli, it's not even the. biggest hair hair story of the week. First of all, yeah, she's got some sort. of bangs, as they call it. She's done. something different with the fringe. >> I never really know what bangs are. I. hear about them on on a lot of uh. American dramas. >> It's American for fringe, I think. >> Then now I do know. >> Now you do. But the big story is surely.

the two mega buzzcuts. One, Erling. Harland's buzzcut. And two, I hate. talking about him. It's Connor's story. from Heated Rivalry for season two. He's. got a buzz cut. This has caused a lot of. outrage. A lot of people are like, "I. loved his hair before. Don't be stupid. He's going to look just as good with. this hair in all the 10-minute sex. scenes. So, don't worry about it." But. yes, haircut celebrity haircuts are big. A Beckham's haircut was the front page. of the sun if he got a new one. And he. had so many different ones. The other. day I was read reading that part of the.

issue at the um the Brook the fate the. fateful Brooklyn and Nicola wedding was. that a lot of David's speech they um. they he talked about what haircuts he. had at certain times during the Yeah. My. father. >> No, I mean we've talked about my. father-in-law's speech at my wedding. before, but yeah, that that had a lot of. what car he was driving. The rest is entertainment is presented. by Octopus Energy. Now, traditionally, the entertainment gatekeepers had to.

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quite a lot of your children's money. with you. I can I can confirm. Um. anyway, rest rest in peace my. father-in-law. Um there. Yeah, haircut. So, no, but you know Diana when she got. her hair when Sam at night did her hair. shorter, that was a big thing. Deme more. shaving her head for GI Jane. That was. huge. Do you remember Justin Bieber had. the swoop and when he finally cut that. off? That was a huge deal. He auctioned. some of the hair. When Miley Cyrus went. platinum, Jennifer Aniston's Rachel, that was a huge thing. That haircut and. when she she actually gets much better.

hair later in Friends. I think my. daughter's going through the whole of. Friends at the moment. And I you Rachel. has some great hair in Friends. Um and. most sort of awfully I suppose Britney's. hair getting shaved. This was huge news. So yeah, haircuts are big, but I have to. say that Connor Story and Erling. Harland's buzz cuts are bigger this. week. >> I always found one of the things in TV I. always found interesting because that. this this idea of hair and makeup and. clothes and stuff being incredibly. important to people and and it was never. something I think maybe because of my. eyes. I just never it never meant.

anything to me. But I worked out very. very very early on that some of the. cleverest, smartest, most creative. people I knew were also obsessed with. that as well. So everything had to be. right. And so I've always paid attention. to it because my my brain would be oh. why does it matter? Uh and you realize. after a while when you're in any sort of. visual medium that it does matter and. it's some people's job and they're. incredibly good at it about image and. making things uh look good. I have it. will shock you to learn never been good. at that sort of thing but uh I'm uh as. the kids say I'm here for it.

>> Oh I love this question. Liam Richard. asks, "You mentioned in a recent podcast. that the entertainment world is run by. Tom's and Olivia, but if you had to pick. your top five Toms and Olivia, who would. they be?". >> It's true though, isn't it? There's a. lot of them about. I mean, I guess. Olivia makes sense cuz it's been like. the the most popular girls name in the. US and UK for sort of as long as records. began. But Tom less so. Okay. So, I'm. going to I'm going to do combined top. five if that's all right. I'm combining. my Tom's and Olivia. So, there's lots of. good people who are not in this list.

because there's only room for five. In. fact, there's room for more than five. because I'm going to go for a joint. fifth because I think these two people. sort of exist as two sides of the same. coin. And I think they are the sort of. last two guys to really come through and. be universal monoculture movie stars. Tom Cruz and Tom Hanks. You can't put. one of them above the other. You can. like one of them more than you like the. other for sure. or you can prefer the. films of one of them to the other, but. you can't deny the sheer cultural power.

of each of them. I I I think there is an. equivalence between the two of them, right? >> I will allow you a joint fifth. And I'm. so pleased I'm corrupting you in this. way. Carry on. >> Don't forget, if I had a joint fourth, we wouldn't have a fifth, but I have a. joint fifth, so that's okay. Number. four, because movie stars are all well. and good. There's a there's a thing in. We Chase Shadows, my new book, where. Rosie goes on Graeme Norton and Steve is. going up to see it and and his mates in. the pub saying, "Well, who's on?" And he. goes, "Oh, Denzel Washington is on. Um,

there's a there's a chef is on." And. they go, "Oh, a chef. That'll be. interesting because over here we don't. really care about big movie stars." Not. really. That's not what we really really. like. We like homegrown stuff is what we. like. So, number four, I'm going Olivia. Coleman. I recognize she is a movie star. and I give her great credit for that but. she is one of us. >> as has the academy. >> as has the academy which in some ways is. probably more important to her because I. guess she can't put my respect on a. mantle piece right you can't do it um.

yeah I suppose you could quote me and. type it up it's a lot of it's a lot of. hassle in a way that an Oscar isn't uh. but you know from Peep Show and. Broadchurch to start as one of the sort. of uh TV comedy people in the UK, the. kind of stuff that we love and to have. gone where she's gone. I think Olivia. Coleman absolutely has to be up there. Number three, Sir Tom Jones, you can't. not. I just think the length of his. career. We funny enough when we were. talking about Dolly Parton on Tuesday's. show. There's an amazing story about how.

she just as a bet from some of her. friends stre on Tom Jones's lawn right. >> during the filming of 9 to5. It's like. late at night and she just Yeah. Yeah. She said, "I I can't tell you how. smoking hot he was at the time." So, she. said, "Yeah, I I stripped and streaked. on Tom Jones's lawn." She said, "I don't. know if he ever found out." He said, "But uh I did notice two weeks later uh. there was a fence around his house. >> He built a fence to stop Dolly Parson. streaking across his lawn." And I mean, that that is a messed up value system. But for what he's done across the, you.

know, the the era he's done, the amount. of times he's reinvented himself, what. he means to British popular culture and. he's stayed relevant and he loves music. so much and he still plays great music. You know, the the the voice is still. there. Uh so I have to go Tom Jones. Number two, only because well, not only because uh. Oscar winner, nominated many, many. times, died at the age of 104, sued Ryan. Murphy when she was 100. I'm going for. Olivia de Havland. To have had a career.

that spans being in Gone with the Wind. before the war to suing Ryan Murphy. I. mean, if if Tom Jones thought he'd had a. long career is nothing compared to. Olivia De Havland. Number one I'm going. to go for because and again it's three. people because I'm going to go for Tom. Holland, Tom Holland and Tom Hollander. because I just think with three of them. all together and poor Tom Holland from. the rest is history constantly has to. turn up at restaurants and to see people. being disappointed and then as soon as. he opens his mouth they go oh my god. you're the guy from the rest is history.

and then being happy again and Tom. Hollander is very very very funny in. interviews about firstly people being. disappointed he's not Tom Holland but. also uh occasionally receiving royalty. checks for Tom Holland which uh you know. and Tom Holland is doing pretty well for. himself but uh when he gets the uh the. Tom Holland royalty checks uh he says. it's it is it is quite some it's. sobering I think is I I think is what it. is so because those three constantly.

have to explain who they are to fans of. the others and because of their uh. achievements altogether I'm going for. Tom Holland Tom Holland Tom Hollander we. await as always at some point the rise. of Tom Hollandest. and it's going to be exciting to see who. that is. This episode is brought to you by. Lloyds. Now show business loves a club. >> I love all these sort of unofficial.

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MTV's, if you don't know, they're MTV's. video music awards and they're are, you. know, they're another ceremony um that. isn't the Grammys. You've got to be. different. I think they do matter and I. think they've always had a really. distinct vibe to them, which is they are. an absolute chaos engine in our culture. They are like a pop culture event and. they have been so many times because the. Grammys is that real, you know, it's. that kind of gentile that goes on. forever and it's but it's very kind of. establishment. the VMAs. I mean, Madonna, by the way, has been part of a.

lot of this by the f her f she really. kind of went particularly big in 1984. All the way back then, she did like a. virgin in a wedding dress and she lost a. shoe. She was like writhing all over the. floor like you know, hi, welcome to the. building. I think it's always chaos. basically and it's always those things. before we knew before we described. moments as viral or whatever. These. talking point things always happen at. the VMAs. I'm just going to go through a. few of them because they're kind of. amazing moments. Nana doing lithium in.

1992. Like someone throws a guitar and. then gets hit by the guitar. Um there. it's it's all that's all chaos. The red. carpet is always really out there. Do. you remember Lil Kim going and she had. this purple jumpsuit but it stopped at. her waist and she had these kind of. nipple pasties on. I mean that was a. sort of iconic look. 2003 Madonna again. kissing Britney Spears and Christina. Aguilera. was massive. So again, all. these things happen. I think this is. 2009. I mean, think of the aftershocks.

of this. It's almost like the financial. crisis. Kanye interrupting Taylor on. stage. Oh, please. I mean, this it's. always chaos, right? It's always chaos. Things that happen. And um Oh, what. else? Oh, that same year, 2009, Gaga did. Paparazzi but in covered in blood. And. it was really like, oh, I see. Yeah, I. see what we could achieve with her at. awards ceremonies. 2011 Beyonce. performing and then like bring her thing. to show that she was pregnant. That was.

quite a way to announce it. >> That's how Bucks Fizz would have done. it. >> Miley Cyrus who's who obviously came. from Hannah Montana was a you know kind. of Disney child. If you didn't know what. the word twerking was before 2013, you. certainly did after you'd seen her with. Robin Thick, that idiot from Blurred. Lines. They did that. They did a sort of. medley of We Can't Stop and Blurred. Lines. You knew what twerking was after. that. everyone knew what it was. I I. there are lots of moments like this. I. definitely think that in terms of pop. culture, they matter, but also because.

no other industry would do an awards. show like this. The music industry, I. love it when the music industry is. properly music industry and it's like, you know, you watch the Oscars and it's. all so gental and all of those any of. the even like the things that they tell. you aren't gental. You're kind of. relying on the opening monologue to do. something. The actual ceremony itself is. kind of pretty boring. We know what. happens. You just don't you don't know. what's going to happen at the VMAs. I. love it for that. I love the music. industry for just like having an abs,

you know, meltdowns on the red carpet, for like having feuds with each other, for every it's all completely Yeah, it's. so unbounded and you don't know what's. going to happen. So, I've and I hope. Madonna will have something up her. sleeve that will scandalize all the. boring people who can't stand that she's. still working when she's over 60. I hope. something exciting will happen at it. this time. She is as the biggest nominee. and I just said, you know, you know, I. thought the album was really good. So. yeah, that's what I love about the VMAs. >> My favorite thing about the VMAs is um.

when uh we used to record Pointless or. when I used to record Pointless, you. would we have the same makeup team. So. there's Pauline and Debbie who would do. me and Xander uh and there was Lisa and. there was various others who would do. contestants and you know all of this. So. it's it's the same a really really. lovely crew. uh Bambi and just a really. good gang. They would never really have. a day off because you knew in advance. when you were recording pointless. You. so that three months would be, you know, you you. that's what they'd be doing for that. time. There would always be two days in.

any series. when they weren't there when there was. something that was so big that they'd. had to just just carve it out of their. contract because they had to go do it. And that was always the VMAs. So they. would all they would go from on a. Tuesday doing the makeup on pointless. doing like contestant makeup and you. know going on the the floor and sort of. touching people up to going to wherever. the VMAs were that year and working with.

Miley Cyrus and you know just these. massive massive stars and then come back. on the Friday and be back just doing me. and Xander and uh the contestants always. with amazing gossip. >> I was about to say you know the gossip. was off the scale. The makeup girls are. the best. But I would have I'm so. jealous of that. >> Yeah, it was amazing because because. they'd worked uh for MTV for years and. years and years. They were they were. always flown out to wherever it was. They flown up from our little studio. instas. and then back to us again. Yeah. With.

with every bit of absolutely unre. repeatable gossip that uh is possible to. have. >> Okay. Question from Lucy May about the. the masked singer. Lucy says, "How do. they keep the celebs a secret on Masked. Singer? What happens if the judges. genuinely work it out too early? I. really want to know this. >> I know a few people have been on the M. singer and they always it it's an. amazing setup that they have on uh that. show." I think rather than me give you. the answer though, someone who would. know far better about it and certainly.

know far better about how uh how the. judges are are kept away from people's. identities, we have an answer from Deina. McCall. I've got a really unique um look. at the Mar singer, Lucy, because I get. to go I got to go behind the scenes. because I was a Mar singer and I've been. on the panel and the mad thing about. being a singer is that no one knows your. identity. The sound guys that you are.

dressed in a cubicle in the back and. there's like two people that know who. you are. The floor manager doesn't know. Joel doesn't know. Like the camera crew. don't know. No one knew that I was. behind the mask. So that's mad. The. panel definitely don't know. Now there. have been people that have walked out. onto that stage where universally. everyone. um knew Macy Gray. We she opened her.

mouth and um she didn't disguise her. voice at all. So we just knew she's. going deal like we all knew. Um so there. was a point where we were kind of all. guessing and then really when that. starts happening you end up letting go. of that singer because everybody knows. who they are. And sometimes that's quite. controversial because they're a massive. name. But when we all know it's not as.

much fun. I mean, we've all realized. that it's much more fun when we don't. know. So, have I sometimes wondered if. it's someone but maybe gone with another. name because I don't you know what I. mean? Like, it's not that I'm lying, but. I'm like, but it could be this person. Um, and sometimes I try if somebody's. guessed someone and I think, oh, I think. it might be them, but I want to be my. own person and it might not be them. I've been wrong about thinking so they.

might be wrong. Don't trust anyone to. what I'm trying to say. So actually it's. pretty true to life the mass singer. Um. and we're all rubbish actors. So there. you go. >> Thank you so much Deina. And it's it's. fascinating because I that of course is. the answer because people always say oh. everyone knows everything and. everything's faked. If a show is better. if they don't know, that is how the. producer will make it. And that show is. much better if they don't know. So. that's how the producer will make it. And you know, you talk to contestants. who are on it. And they they sort of,

you know, they have to be let out, you. know, in with hoods over their heads. like black hoods with a question mark on. it to walk down the corridor. So it is. kept incredibly secret. And the reason. it's kept secret, I say, is because that. makes the better show. And people who. don't know about Teddy think everything. is faked. And people who do know about. telly spot when something's faked. And. you can see with the Mar singer that it. definitely isn't. I thought Deina is. fascinating there talking about that. thing you would do as a host sometimes. where you think I think it is that. person but it might be better if I don't.

say that which is which is which is as. she say is not fakery. It's it's just. it's it's understanding how the audience. is watching it at at the same time as. you. If there's any chance of doing a. show where you don't fake something, where everything is real, that's the. thing that a producer does and they. certainly do that on that show. We are now going to have a little chat. about Paris on behalf of our friends at. Euroar. >> Paris is one of cinema's great. shortcuts. Romance, fashion, conspiracy,

car chase. The city does quite a lot of. the establishing for you. >> Yeah, very efficient. Although the Paris. you're looking at isn't always quite the. real thing. It might be rebuilt, tidied. up for cameras, and occasionally Paris. turns out to be Sydney. >> Yes. Today we're talking about where. does Paris end and cinema begin. >> Well, cinema sort of began in Paris. >> It did begin in Paris, but that bit. about Sydney is amazing because Mulan. Rouge where they basically recreated. almost the whole mar on a sound stage in.

Sydney and they spent up to two years. building it all. It's obviously very. very expensive to build Paris like that. But you can have full control when it's. on the studio back lot, but some of the. places in Paris, which I love, they have. the this whole sort of story built into. them. You know, the pale G where the. Phantom of the Opera is set. Um, Gaston. Laroo set it there. And there's all this. kind of myth about the building. Is. there really an underground lake? Well, actually, there sort of is because when. they were building it, the Pale Garnier, the builders found that the water table. was incredibly high. And so they've got.

this kind of natural reservoir that they. had to create for drainage because. otherwise it would completely fall down. >> We had that in our basement once. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. It was very very similar. >> Did you have a Phantom of the Opera in. your basement cuz that would have been. quite good. >> And we certainly had a Phantom. something. Something was going on. Definitely. It was definitely one of. those places even though often other. countries and other cities step in for. Paris. The whole point about going to. Paris is you get to see the whole thing. Lots of people who go to Paris say it's. because they've seen I think Emily in. Paris is is is the most quoted thing of. people who go to Paris to see film sets.

So that's huge. Lupan is huge. Amily. would be one of the reasons. Go to where. Emily is is set because it just looks so. beautiful and you can go to the real. place and sometimes those real places. not aren't even all that crowded in. Paris. >> No, Emily in Paris has been an absolute. massive driver into for tourism if you. they really want it to be set anywhere. so that they they pull people in. Ratatouille even though animated people. absolutely love and say that they they. wanted to visit because of Ratatouille. I know the Paris tourist board even have.

they have an official Emily and Paris. trail now I bet they do as well which I. bet is popular. >> So even when oncreen Paris has already. been built in Sydney or tidied up for. camera, it still sends people looking. for the real thing. >> Yeah. Recreating Paris can apparently. take quite a lot of work. Getting to the. real one is much easier. Euroar goes. direct from London city center to Paris. city center in 2 hours and 33 minutes. >> Book your train to Paris with Euroar. now. >> Another one for you Marina from Amirit. Nelson. He said, "I've read that Warner. Brothers is developing a live action. film of the Flintstones with Ryan.

Gosling producing. The plot is going to. center on Bam Bam Rubble, the toddler in. the original show. My question is, what. do you think are the stupidest character. names in film and TV?" I quite like Bam. Bam Rubble. >> Yeah, I I like stupid character names as. well. Um, there are just so many group. there there are lots of group obviously. Bond girls. We we talk we talk about. some of the names on our Bond series. Um, I think probably Christmas Jones. simply because any movie in which Denise.

Richards plays a nuclear physicist is. one that I am 100% showing up to. Um, the Batman ones, some of the ones in. Batman are brilliant. So, like you get. Dr. Chase Meridian, but then there are. other ones it's like, come on, man. Edward Nigma. Well, like he's one of the. Stafford Enigma. I mean, it's it's not. really a sign. You you know, Enigma, you. know, there's what god there was a. character I was trying to think of the. stupidest name. Um, in Twilight there's. someone called Reneesme Cullen. Like. they've put Renee and Esme together. Like come on. I am a big fan of all the.

dingles in Emadddale with all their. biblical like Cain and Shadrach and. Charity and and then sort of randomly. like Maron. I mean the first three. Beckham children being given stripper. names and then the Beckhams become very. gentrified and are like actually having. said they I've never read a book. actually my favorite book is to kill a. mockingb bird and that's why I'm calling. my daughter Harper. But the first three. strippers names I I quite enjoy. Um I. love the joke about I love the name Dr. Drake Remor, which is obviously Joey's. Days of Our Lives character. Star Wars.

names are brilliant. I think they're. absolutely amazing. I think so much. about Star Wars and what George Lucas. came up with is genuinely incredible and. just like something that does feel like. it as a kind of different form of. language. If you think about that that. very first uh the very first Star Wars. movies, it's hard, you know, names are a. huge thing about how you come up with. them. And I I never like something if. it's too showy. I I don't like a comedy. name in a comedy. You think no, you have. to give comedy people. You look at like. the office and stuff, they just have.

normal names. They're not called sort of. Jonathan Greenbottom because that is. just that's not what what you do. But. Luke Skywalker, Han Solo, Obi-Wan. Kenobi, Princess Leia, Chewbacca the. Wookie. Count me in for all of those. names. Darth Vader. I mean, it's so. clever. You really felt that there was. an entire sort of Yeah. an entire space. nomenclature out there and these were. just like part of it. It's brilliant. It's brilliantly done. The names of the. planets, all of it. >> Jaba the Hut. >> Tom Cruz has some very stupid names. In. Days of Thunder, he's called Cole. Trickle. I mean, you know, he's a NASCAR. driver, so it's.

>> He's called what? Sorry. >> Cole Trickle in Days of Thunder. Cole. Trickle. >> If I've been his age, but it's so NASCAR. that as well. So, I think you have to. allow it. Um, I I love I find things. like um Keanu Reeves in Point Break, Johnny Utah. I' I've got a real. weakness. There's a lot of martial arts. names. I And I love martial arts movies. Um, I've watched a lot of action movie. names. I So, I love I'm a big fan of. kind of ridiculous names. I have to say. I don't and I don't hate Bam Bam either,

but those are some of my ones that I. like. I must say that I think that. they're all I'm a I'm a big fan of them, but I don't like if it like Nigma is not. a good surname. There are no Nigmas in. the world. I don't believe. >> I love Charles Dickens. The only my. absolute only bug bearer I have with him. is some of is the character name. sometimes where you're like I get it. Listen, it was it was it was of its. time. But uh yeah, just just just called. it, you know, I mean Martin Chuzzlewit, I get it. I absolutely get it. But uh I.

it's it's getting in the way of the. story for me. >> Yeah, I know what you mean. I really. agree. It's of its time. We have to just. contextualize and explain. >> Yes, I Yes. Listen, and he's he's he. more than makes up for it, I would say, in other areas. >> Excellent writer. Excellent writer. Right. >> In lots in so many ways. >> I think that wraps us up for today, does. it not? >> Oh, it's been an absolute pleasure. Thank you. >> It has been. We'll be back together next. week. >> We will. We got um the story of Dr. know. is the uh latest in our um Bond series.

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