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sports, sports, sports. Hello, beautiful people, and welcome to our humble abode, The. Thunder Dome, on this WOTW October 22nd, 2025. This program begins now. Football. It is magical, and we're lucky. to talk about it every single day, but. I'll tell you what, the NBA brought it. last night, the NHL brought it last. night, the MLB is obviously cooking with. fire, and we're about a little bit over. 24 hours away from week eight of the NFL.

season kicking off. We're in the middle. of a great time to be alive. We're. appreciative of the fact that we get to. do this. We'll have Shams Charania. joining us in about 15 minutes or so. Can't wait to catch up with him about. all the NBA stuff that we need to know. after an exhilarating start for the. association yesterday. I mean, they had. a double overtime thriller, and then. into the late, late night, they had. Steph Curry and Luka putting on a show. Now, granted, that Lakers team certainly. looks a certain way without LeBron James. on that particular court, but Luka looks. a little different, too. 40-plus points, obviously one rebound or assist away. from a triple-double, and uh they look great, but Jimmy Butler.

and Steph Curry and the Golden State. Warriors appear to be the real deal, but. nobody, and I mean nobody, appears to be. able to topple this Oklahoma City team. and what SGA was able to do in that. first game. I This. This whole Houston Rockets with Kevin. Durant dynamic is certainly awesome, and. I love the fact that Kevin Durant gets. to experience a new city and do a new. thing with a new team and earn his ring. He's still an absolute dog. They got Big. Turk on their team, too. They They got. this big Turkish fella. I I. Sengun. Sengun.

and Big Turk, I'm sorry. Ball. This. guy's an absolute ball. Houston Rockets. were a good team, young team. They get. Kevin Durant, he's obviously a weapon. They're going to be good this year. They. lose in a heartbreaker to this Oklahoma. City team, and at one point during this. game, Alex Caruso, yes, that guy you're. talking about, tried to go over top of. three dudes in overtime. Okay, in. two-point game, Caruso's going for it. They all got maximum confidence over. there because they obviously just won. the title. The Dorture Chamber still. locked down, and SGA can get a bucket. whenever he has to. The NBA had a hot.

start. They got a lot of games today. We. appreciate them doing that. And then in. the NHL, there was a magical moment up. there in Boston. Now, we'll obviously. chit-chat about that in a matter of. moments. We have 12-year NFL vet, Super. Bowl champion, player-coach for the. Tampa Bay Buccaneers, the Jackie Moon of. the NFL, if you will. Ladies and. gentlemen, A Q Shipley. Yeah. How you doing, A Qush? Great, boys. You're a big NBA guy. I know you were. all excited and jacked up. You've always. been a big-time Jordan's, Bird, and. LeBron guy since. >> the beginning of time and since. beginning of that conversation started.

becoming a daily conversation on sports. television channels all over the world. Um Last night, he debuted his commenting. stuff. Now, that was alongside an entire. NBC package that I think did a fantastic. job in the rollout. It felt big. Talks. to Ty was here at Boston Connor, at Ty. Schmidt. Ty, Torico's voice on it makes. it feel big. And then Maria Taylor is. obviously synonymous with massive. moments. She comes from like College. GameDay. Now, she's on Sunday Night. Football, Football Night in America host. and halftime show host. She feels like. she's a part of something big. Then you.

got Melo up there. You got T-Mac up. there. You got Vince Carter up there. Then in the booth, you got Hey, Crawford Man. Good on the mic. Torico. calling this thing. And then obviously. Reggie Miller, who's been on the call. for games like the last 30 years. It was. like NBC really did well last night, I. thought. And that was a big takeaway, I. think, from a lot of the sports. community after watching last night. >> Yeah, without a doubt. I think, you. know, like for me, who like I'm a casual. NBA fan, I will watch the games, but. like the the actual double overtime game. to start, like that was just the cherry.

on top because, if you remember like. when we were younger, like I I had so. much nostalgia and like déjà vu almost. watching that NBC intro last night. Like. I was 8 years old on my couch watching. the Bulls game. Like it was nuts. And. then, yeah, it just everything down to. like the score bug, every little detail. And And that could just be because it's. something new. We're not quite used to. it or or used to the previous stuff on. ESPN and ABC and all that kind of stuff. But yeah, the the Yeah, Turner. Exactly. But like it just everything about it.

felt like they gave attention to detail, and the the cast is incredible. And it. was only the first night. Like I think. we can assume that, okay, hey, this is a. great launch. These guys are going to. get much more comfortable and much. better throughout the course of the. year. >> Nine-year NFL vet Darius J. Butler's. here. Good to see you, D But. Your. thoughts on the coverage on NBC. I LIKE. OBVIOUSLY. YES. LOVE THAT. >> YEAH, I'M RIGHT THERE WITH TY as far as. that being nostalgic. I remember.

watching the Bulls game and my big. brother, Mitch, forcing me to watch the. intros and that Bulls music. But. obviously wasn't the Bull last Bulls. last night, but that game was great, came down to the wire. I probably want to take back some of my. tweets. I won't delete them because I'm. not a bitch-made cat. But you know, I. was a mark riding along some of the best. because that is one of the most exciting. parts about the NBA to bet alongside it. as well. But the stars showed up. You. mentioned SGA just stepping up in the. MVP coming off the title run. You're. always wondering about these teams, how. would they show up to start the season.

We saw the banner night, we saw the. ring, and it was no doubt he was going. to make that shot. That's just what he. does with that shoulder shimmy. You. mentioned Sengun, absolute dog. They. were calling baby Joker a couple years. ago, and he showed why. Pretty much. their best point guard right now, great. lineup. But the Thunder got it done. That That attempted dunk from Caruso was. absolutely electric. So, there is the. Oklahoma City are down two. Kevin Durant. obviously had an opportunity to put them. up three. He missed a free throw. If he. would have made that free throw, I think. SGA makes a three instead of a.

mid-range. Then it goes to overtime. after SGA makes a shot. That was one of. the most matter-of-fact shots that we've. seen in some time. SGA has the ball. dribbling down. He's in the paint. He's. mid-range. That's definitely following. They go to overtime. Overtime gets. electrifying. We mentioned Caruso trying. to absolutely go yam in this entirety. But all of overtime was pretty There was. a couple like five-point leads, and then. they would come crawling back. This. thing would end up going to double. overtime to kick off the entire NBA. season, to kick off the brand new. relationship or re-relationship with. NBC. I think Adam Silver was out there.

like, yes, more balls. They did have to. make a decision, though. They put the. Lakers and Golden State. Okay, so you're. putting Luka and Steph Curry on Peacock. only. Okay, so I thought to myself like, ooh, if this goes to. What do they end up doing? We get over. to the Lakers-Golden State game, it's. like 32-31 already, and I think to. myself, this actually worked out for. them perfectly. We got through the first. like [ __ ] let's figure out who we. are as a team first game of the NBA, and. we got right into it. It was almost like. a better setup for them when that could. have been a problem. Michael Jordan, you.

know, sits down with Michael Torico. I. don't think that's what I thought was. going to happen. >> No, definitely not. >> I think I I didn't think that was it. Now, granted, we got Michael Jordan. >> Yeah. Love that we got Michael Jordan. He says he's paying for it, he's giving. back to the game, you know, that's what. this is all about and everything like. that. He sit down with Torico. I, and. it's my dumb brain, and maybe because. I'm too simple, I thought he was going. to be Wayne Gretzky up there. Like I I. thought there was a chance we were going. to see him in studio. That's not you. being dumb because that was the bill of. goods that we were certainly sold for a.

while there. I feel like it was only on. Sunday Night Football when they first. introduced this, that it was like, oh, actually never mind, this is what he's. going to be doing. He's not He's not. going to be doing any of the studio. stuff. >> Insights to Excellence. He's just. sitting down with Torico and Doner at. the crib. They're just kind of having a. little conversation, going to go through. some stuff, which is obviously great to. get more content from Michael Jordan. Anytime you get a Michael Jordan talk, it's great. But that's why I was excited. for him live in real time. So, on that. note, does that change the way you view. anything after last night? Or did you. feel like the sit-down with Michael. Jordan, especially in this long-form.

interview style, which Torico, we think, is incredibly talented. Torico's on the. Olympics. Torico's on Sunday Night. Football. Torico on an NBA game is going. to feel big. >> Awesome. Thank you. Congrats to Torico. Yeah. He's bringing it. Feels big whenever. he's on it. Nantz feels big. Al Michaels. feels big whenever he's on the call. Michael Cole, you know, when he's on the. call. >> Always. Bingo. >> It feels It feels very big. Who else? Buck. Buck is on the call, it's big. Let's see. Anybody we're missing, we do apologize. >> Al Michaels, Al Michaels.

>> Fowler, Fowler, Fowler. Fowler's Herbie. McQuaid. Herbie Byta. He's He's got, you know. He's on play-by-play. Well, sure, but. yeah, you're right. >> So, I'm talking play-by-play only. It. not color comments, please. We are not. talking Okay, I don't even want to get. into that. Everybody that does it, we. are big fans of. Okay, except for some. people that aren't fans of, you know, whoever. But Michael Jordan last night, was that a big deal for you as a. die-hard Jordan guy to be able to see. him just do something with the common. game with the. the live game? It was good to see him, but I was I was with Ty. I thought he. was going to be on the desk. I thought.

he was going to be like you said like he. was going to be Gretzky, give some. analyst. But I will say, when you think of NBC basketball, all I. hear is Alan Parsons Project. 6'6" FROM THE UNIVERSITY OF NORTH. CAROLINA. ALL RIGHT, THAT'S THE MOMENT. HEGGER. THEY SHOWED THE INTROS LAST NIGHT, TOO, WHICH AL MICHAELS. YEAH, THEY went crazy. Yeah, they uh. The the the branding was good behind. that. Was that uh who was the GM that. you all you Bulls fans hated so.

>> Krause. Krause, was that him directing. all that? Was that him piecing that. whole thing together? I think probably. He is the goat. Yeah, he is. He should. get a little bit more credit, this guy. He's also the pregame activity, what's. going on comment. Well, the like it. sucks that it was only 3 minutes, okay? 3 and 1/2 minutes for sure, it blows. But like I was locked in on that 3 and. 1/2 the entire time. So like although. the first one was just kind of. generalizing, hey this is what I'm going. to be doing. When they do ask him about. specific players and stuff like that and. they do throw in the little 3-minute.

clip, still definitely disappointed. But. that 3 minutes is going to be talked. about no matter what because what he. says about a Sengun or about a SGA, about KD, when they get to a Lakers. primetime game that's actually in LA and. they're talking about LeBron and you. really do get unfiltered MJ on LeBron. with Toriko, like that's going to be. incredible. The logo, too. Not sure if. you know it's in the logo. The little VI. on the bottom being golden highlighted.

for the six championships in the MJ. insight. >> Oh, the detail. >> LITTLE TOUCH. NBC'S KIND OF HITTING all. the all the little details. >> Yeah, I'll be excited to see what their. coverage is and. yeah, that is that's very nice. I didn't. either. Wow, that's that's a mean size. to excellence right there. Bingo. And. then that that is a little bit of the. difference. Now, the sit-down interviews. will be captivating. Told the story. about. Airbnb, you know, shooting. >> Yeah. in front of kids had to touch. ball, felt a lot of pressure when that. one goes through, he feels good. Toriko. goes, "Did you make it?" Uh.

Yes, brother. He was nervous. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yes, brother. But I do like. the fact that he felt a little alive. You know, I think that's why the whole. gambling on golf thing happens. Cuz. these guys are in these biggest moments. I mean, you think of Michael Jordan, you. think of all the big moments we're doing. all the [ __ ] all the time. Think about. an entire arena, the entire league is on. your back, everything basically. Nike is. on your back at that point. The amount. of pressure and exhilaration that you. have to feel whenever that [ __ ] falls, okay? So now that's a dragon. Okay, that. thing is out there. How do you feel. that? Well, this putt needs to be worth.

150,000. This this 3-foot like chasing that. thrill. I assume was what maybe started him into. that particular world and then nowadays. it just seems like it's status quo to. learn. Like my thoughts are Michael. Jordan is competing on a golf course. right now. He's obviously taking over business and. the fact that we're getting a sit-down. interview with him that was already. recorded. Are they going to update this. thing at least? >> That's that's what I'm going to say. >> get some updated Toriko? Hold on, wait. Toriko, we need you to travel down. there. We need that to happen each week. So we're thinking this is just one long.

interview that they're going to just. microdose throughout the. >> Yes. I think we're getting episodes, brother. I think last night was episode. one. podcast. So like we will get, you know, like him talking about like LeBron at. some point, but I don't think it's going. to be topical as to what is actually. like We don't know this. We don't know, but but my impression from last night. was Toriko went down to his house before. the season started during the summer, sat with him for 2 and 1/2 hours and. they're going to cut that up into little. splices throughout the course of the. season. >> Yeah, but just like the Roman numeral. six at the bottom, they always keep us.

guessing. >> I agree. I hope so. >> he was going to be on the desk. Well, we. got this, we got the six, we got that. We're all excited, we're all into it, we're all listening. And I do appreciate. him saying he felt obligated to give. back to the game, you know? At this. stage, why is he choosing to do it now? And I think you have given back to the. game. I mean, we're all wearing it. >> Yeah. Yeah, basically. you've given back you've given back a. lot. Your name and uh. your dunking has really changed. everything, but you know, I'm excited. for it. I thought he was on the desk, though. Yeah, he was. I felt like a mark. whenever I saw IT. WELL, WELL, BIG TIME.

WHEN I SAW HIM SITTING DOWN AT HIS HOUSE. YEAH. How [ __ ] STUPID AM I? THE HELL YEAH, LIKE HE'S GOING to be go. go to Oklahoma City and stand on the. court tonight before the game. What a. [ __ ]. That's what I was doing. I KNEW, I KNEW. I DID, TOO. That might just be the first. one. I'm so embarrassed by myself. >> I know. I WAS HARD TO LOOK IT WAS HARD. TO LOOK AT LIKE You you you know the. business. What if Michael Jordan is Oh. yeah, he's going to go down there and. spend his whole night in Oklahoma City.

Yeah, I bet he will. [ __ ] idiot. What do we think? I DON'T. KNOW. I HAVE NO IDEA. And it seems so. simple now looking back on it like. Of course he wasn't going to go down. there. Why would you? Yeah, they they. rolled out the red carpet and came to. him. Of course why would he? He just got. done. Yeah, exactly. >> Hell yeah. Just got done, you know? He. could have done opening night. Yeah, okay. I don't think he's going any. arenas. Like there if they do a double. header on NBC and then maybe, you know,

they're just doing studio show, maybe he. pops into the studio show. >> And maybe last night they went from. Oklahoma City because it was like first. game, let's go ahead and be live from. here. Maybe it will be a studio like. Football Night in America with a couple. people spread out because you start. looking at the lineup of all the I don't. want to say the cast of characters, but. you get you get what I'm saying here. A. lot of people for NBC. Amazon Prime's. got. so many. They got a lot of legends. working over there. I'll be excited to. see how they kind of disperse everything. that they got going on, but it feels. like the new rights deal that Adam. Silver has negotiated with all these.

different platforms is going to provide. a lot of opportunity for a lot of OGs to. kind of tell their story and give their. takes on it. I'm excited to see all the. drama that kind of just starts. I mean, there's going to be so much [ __ ] You. got a lot of players saying a lot of. stuff at a lot of different places. And. there's a lot of things that are going. to go through the season. You know how. like normal player or. live players right now, how they feel. about the OG players. So now you got a. lot more OG players potentially saying. things. That's why we asked Steve Nash. yesterday. Yeah. Like hey Steve, what. are you going to say about the current. players, you know? Like how are you. going to He goes, "I'm always going to. be me. I'm going to be I I'll be excited.

to see how they all balance that.". Because I think Shaq and Chuck obviously. get a lot of heat because it feels like. they're burying the modern day, but. they're just pointing out from their. eyes what they see in ball. It's like. how do all the other OGs see ball and. how are those conversations go? I think. it's good. I think it's great for the. conversation. It's great for us to kind. of keep up with. And if last night is. any indication of what the season's. going to be like for NBC, congrats, you. guys nailed it. Michael Jordan, we thought he was going. to be there. Why would you guys think that? Yeah, I. don't know. I'm wearing the shoes. The guy's.

the guy's got to have all the money in. the world. Yeah, okay, what do we do? Are you want. me to read an A block? Okay. Is it my turn to talk now? We think Michael Jordan was there. I I. was honestly shocked at the story. I. couldn't believe he actually shot the. free throw for for the I'm assuming. billionaire that owned the house. I. would have thought he'd say, "I'm not a. [ __ ] puppet. I'm not shooting a. [ __ ] free throw." But he shot it. That shocked me. On that note I'd like. to buy this house and tear it down. The family's just like he's it's an. Airbnb and he gets there and the.

family's just there and they're like, "Hey Michael, can you just just shoot. one putt?". >> Think about them seeing the order come. through. Yeah. That's like that. commercial the Michael Jordan guy who. get trying to get the reservation for. the restaurants and then shows up. Michael Jordan's right in our house. That's not They say. say no Airbnb either. Yeah, exactly. It's not it's not like this. No way. >> Yeah, I'll be excited to see how much uh. that would cost a night if you were able. to rent it. Maybe Ty, maybe you rent. that thing. >> Yeah, we'll see. And you can hey, start working on your.

free throw. I know. You're right, that's. all it takes. That's all it takes, quick. 150 grand for the weekend, no big deal. A night. Joining us now, ladies and. gentlemen, is a man who might have more. information on why the hell did we think. that Michael Jordan was going to be. sitting in a studio talking about. basketball. throughout this season. on NBC. Ladies and gentlemen, Shams. Charania. Hey, Shams. Shams, we we feel. so stupid. We we last night while we're. sitting there watching Michael Jordan at. his house. It looked beautiful, by the. way. I assume he's got a lot of those. different rooms and we saw his house in.

Illinois that was for sale, still for. sale, everything like that. Beautiful. place, he's earned it all. Congratulations to him. He's built a lot. of different businesses for other. people. I think Chicago Bulls, the NBA. would say this, the Jordan brand would. obviously say this, Space Jam. potentially. I mean, you start naming. things, this guy is obviously an earner. I think for everybody that he's ever. really worked for, Gatorade, everything. So I appreciate how nice of a setup it. is for him. And. why did I in my brain when I heard this. think that Michael Jordan was going to. be doing anything other than sitting in.

his house having a podcast? And on that. note how does the NBA, Adam Silver and. people you talk to around the league. feel about all these OGs getting an. opportunity to cover the game with the. new rights deals? Well, I I think one. your your heart would have been broken. If you had reached out to me yesterday, I would have told you Michael Jordan is. not going to be #shams deal. #shams deal. as as excitedly. So I'm I'm happy you. didn't and you you know, I'd rather you. get your dream shattered, but you still.

get to experience the Michael Jordan, you know, mentality, the you know, every. the aura that that is MJ. Um but I mean, I enjoyed watching that. I think it was. like a 3-minute interview. I believe. half of it was talking about when he. went to the right I think it was a Ryder. Cup owners home and he got challenged to. shoot a free throw. Uh he said it was. like years ago or something. I I know. Brandon Miller was drafted by the. Hornets in 2022. Uh in in high in the lottery. I think he.

was the number two pick in Charlotte. He. told a story at the time that he was. shooting free throws with Michael Jordan. and he was trash talking Michael Jordan. So that was. So we do know that. We do know I don't. know how long ago this was, but at least. 3 years ago Brandon Miller and Michael. Jordan I think Brandon Miller the story. goes he saw Michael Jordan airball a. free throw. So. shout out out Brandon Miller. NO, I. DON'T WANT TO HEAR THAT.

YOU DON'T NEED TO SAY EVERYTHING THAT. COMES INTO THAT BRAIN, OKAY? You can go. ahead and filter something. I'm just. refreshing memories. So I don't know how. long ago this was. Was this after the. Brandon Miller on court? Was it Several. years after. We got to we got to do some. How could it be several years? Several. years is like this year. It was. It was. like it was like a month ago. But he. said but he says in the interview like I. haven't picked up a basketball in years. The last time I picked it up was insert. story. No, no, I think it years with that. We. got to figure out the years. >> he hadn't picked up a basketball in.

years whenever he was asked to shoot the. free throw. That's why he felt the. pressure. So so Pat, me as a listener, I'm hearing that and I'm like, what's. years? Is years five years, six years? I. know for sure he picked up a ball in. 2022. So that's probably There you go. The air ball free throw and said, "I'm. never doing that again. I'm going to go. golf.". >> he did it and then he made it. So the. ending the what let's just for for our. fantasy purposes we'll we'll just. >> No. >> No, 40 out. Wait, wait, wait, wait. Remember the camp, too? Where the kids. it was like if he makes every shot or if. he misses one shot, yeah. Well, how many.

years ago was that? Uh it was 2020 maybe. 2019. That feels like it was a little. longer ago. >> kids. Yeah, if you make every single. shot, if he misses one of these shots. everybody in here gets. >> Free George. >> Yeah, you know right. I don't think so. I will say though Pat, um I think the. return of like players, you know, whether you know, at Amazon, NBC, we're. seeing a lot of former players, uh you. know, up there and I I love it. I mean. back when I was at FanDuel TV worked. closely with Chandler Parsons, Lou. Williams, uh we had DeMarcus Cousins on,

uh. you know, Iman Shumpert, Evan Turner, guys that would come on and like from my. purposes I know what I'm what I do uh. and it's always refreshing to hear the. experts, the people that were in it, that lived and breathed it. I mean, you. guys you DB, AJ, the other AJ, like you. guys have that experience that um the. expertise that I think the fans. hopefully can can can get and uh and. absorb that. >> Yeah, me AJ's in the D-Butt always try.

our best just trying to give our. perspective, but we think everybody. obviously is a good voice to be heard. Now, when some people take themselves a. little bit too serious and if they're. not they're going to get buried every. once in a while by some people, but. that's the game that we're in. That's. the world that we live in and uh we. appreciate what you do cuz we obviously. can't do that, but I'm excited to hear. the former uh NBA legends commentate all. year long. Now, let's talk about a. legend that's currently not playing but. still in the league and has played. against all the guys that are currently. on TV now. Uh LeBron James, okay. So he. has a sciatica, okay, in the back there.

with the Los Angeles Lakers. Three to. four weeks is what it was being said. Obviously at this stage of his career, this might be beneficial for him. long-term if he misses three to four. weeks worth of games here at the. beginning whenever obviously at the end. of the year is whenever you're going to. need LeBron James at his absolute best. Last year he's flying around like he was. a 29-year-old still, they were expecting. him to do that. Luka obviously brought. in to be the future of the franchise. Are we about to enter LeBron James sit. in the corner, let Luka cook? Maybe.

LeBron James save the legs a little bit, still be able to dominate. Is this a new. era of LeBron James basketball with the. Lakers and when are we expecting him to. be actually back with the Los Angeles. Lakers? Watching the Lakers last night, I think. they need LeBron James who's going to be. there, have the ball in his hands. whenever Luka doesn't have the ball in. his hands and Austin Reaves is either. off the court playing off the ball. Uh. they need LeBron James to be LeBron. James. That's what I saw last night. I. mean, a top 15 player last year he was. on he was on an all-NBA team. And this.

sciatica that that we talk about, right? On his right side, um it is important to. note here Pat, I'm told he first had. this back situation occur late July, early August in an on-court workout. I'm. told he was working out with Tyrese. Maxey and Zach Levine and he felt. something in his back and then he ends. up getting tests and things of that. sort. And so this is an injury that's. been described to me and I think. Draymond Green spoke about it last night. that it it comes and goes, you feel it. you know, you don't really have like a.

set timeline or there's it's not like. there's a a treatment that you just do. and it just heals. It it's time, it's. how you feel and I think there was maybe. a notion that he'd feel better by now, but obviously he needs time because all. of the off he didn't have an off-season. So all that time that he missed, you. know, we're usually accustomed to seeing. LeBron in August and September post. these 6:00 a.m. workouts. We only saw. that really for a couple weeks this. summer. So he didn't have that routine. normal LeBron James off-season and so I. think this this training camp, I think.

right now is a lot about him getting. back into basketball shape and being. able to go out there and play uh with. the proper conditioning that we're. accustomed to seeing him play because. he's not a guy that's just going to come. in the game and just stand in the. corner. I don't see that from LeBron. James this year. Never say never where. that could be next year or if he keeps. playing or you know, how the second half. of the year goes if he's not able to be. back physically, but I am told he's. doing more and more on the court. But. sources tell me he's going to be very. very patient with this injury and I'm.

told the Lakers and LeBron are looking. at mid-Novemberish for him to make his. debut. So we're still looking at some. time here before he's going to be able. to be back out on the court. There's. still some boxes he's got to check and. in the meantime, you know, he's sitting. there watching this team and you know, I. think back Rich Paul told me the day. that LeBron James opted in that they. just want a realistic chance. LeBron. James just wants a realistic chance of. winning a championship and I think we're. going to see how this team looks and you.

know, watching this team I can only help. but reread Rich Paul's statement to me. back on I think it was June 30th and. kind of that message that they had was a. cry for help. Like we want this team to. be as as as loaded as as stacked as. possible so we can have a chance to win. a championship and you know, we'll see. I'm not going to panic over one game. I. I'm sure Laker fans are panic, but we'll. see how this team looks as as the next. few weeks go on. DeAndre Ayton, right, was brought in for the Los Angeles. Lakers. Now they're getting an. opportunity obviously see what the.

roster is without LeBron playing. You. talked about him not being stand in the. corner guy at this stage and June 30th. text from Rich Paul about wanting to win. a title. It's like if LeBron can. continue to be the freight train that he. has been, he's a modern marvel this. year. Like he he is an actual and then. we don't even have to go back to the. Olympics. What's that? >> It's insane. It's insane. He's he's. about to be 41 in December and the fact. that he's playing at this level, that's. why like I can never picture him. standing in the corner. If LeBron James. has to I I. I think a lot of scouts, a lot of teams.

would would agree. These Lakers need. LeBron James to be LeBron James for this. team to have a chance to really uh. contend and compete for a championship. So if he is a stand in the corner. player, I think that's going to shift. What? I'd say. >> balance of powers a lot. Yeah, LeBron. James on your team on your roster, need. him to be LeBron James to win. It's like. I'm excited to see how long that can. last cuz remember it's been like the. last three, four years where they're. like LeBron James can't just be the ball. dominant, run heavy at the age that he's. going especially they're running on.

hardwood. Think about how big he is, the. joints, everything like that. They talk. about the body and everything, the. travel schedule, the lack of rest, all. the [ __ ] that NBA players talk about. This dude's 41 years old and he's bigger. than everybody and he's somehow still. doing it all. The guy is a absolute. physical specimen and uh I can't wait to. see him back. So what it sounds like. you're saying is his sciatica might not. be still hurting right now, but he needs. get back into game shape is what we're. hearing. And through this process the. sciatica might pop up a little bit. because it's kind of a sporadic this. sciatic is a little sporadic. Okay,

that's pretty. That's pretty good couple bars there. actually. So so that whole thing to. think about certainly going forward in. my life. But it is uh sporadic thing so. it might pop up, but mostly this is him. training to get into season shape at the. moment is how your kind of feel your. feel is for the situation. He went a. little over a month before September. 29th, which was media day and training. camp. He went over a month prior to. that. So we're thinking late August, uh. mid-August. He went that far without.

touching a basketball. Like real real. live basketball action. So you're. already behind the eight ball when. you're starting training camp and you. haven't really done live basketball. You. haven't been your routine normal. off-season. So he's he is playing. catch-up in a lot of ways as far as his. conditioning and I'm sure he's looking. great in his individual work out. He's. got to get to the point where he's. feeling like LeBron James, he's able to. move like LeBron James. But listen, in. the meantime and and even as we move. forward, I think a lot with the Lakers. changed once they got Luka Doncic. Like.

Luka Doncic has been the guy, he is the. guy for this team. He is the new face of. this franchise. Um and so yeah, they. need LeBron James to be LeBron James, but Luka Doncic is 20 I think he just. turned 26. Like he is supposed to be. that guy. If if you're asking for you. need LeBron James to be LeBron James, which is you know, probably on this team. having the ball when Luka doesn't have. the ball. Probably being the 1A 1B. option, but you need Luka Doncic to be. the face of your franchise as well. We. saw that last night. He was absolutely.

brilliant. He played great basketball, didn't didn't force the action and the. numbers he put up at the end just. unbelievable. Yeah, one assist away from. a triple-double. He goes for 42. uh sorry, 43, 12 and nine, okay. And uh. Lakers lose to the Warriors. The. Warriors improve to 27 and eight when. Jimmy Butler, Steph Curry and Draymond. Green all play including regular season. and playoffs. Jimmy Butler the third, sorry, 31 points his most in a regular. season game since joining the Warriors. and Luka Doncic 43 points most in a.

season opener by a Lakers player since. Kobe Bryant in 2007. So obviously Luka. comes in in great shape playing his best. ball. Are the Lakers poised to go on a. championship run? And if they're not, what does that mean for LeBron? Ooh. San Antonio. San Antonio.

Is that what you're saying about that. June 30th message? That sounded like a me like a meteor, you know, like I think that's what that. what the sound you guys just made is. like a meteor hit the meteor might hit. We'll see. You you never know. >> Oh, he's saying that thing sweet. It's. buzzing. It's buzzing the universe. LeBron James is on the court. We saw the. message from Rich Paul like they want. like he in his mind he's about to be 41. years old year 23 never been done. before. It's about having a realistic. chance to win and only time can tell you.

know one game isn't going to decide THE. LAKERS SEASON. ALL RIGHT, THERE WAS ANOTHER trade we're. not talking about LeBron being traded. this moment we're just saying hey these. things are all obviously being chatted. about there was a trade last year that. obviously rattled the entire industry. rattled the entire sports world on the. same night as the Royal Rumble in. Indianapolis Indiana. There was a trade. to send Luka to Los Angeles to become. the face of the Lakers. He looks better. than ever but at the time it was. earth-shattering info that maybe not. everybody had go ahead D-Bug.

>> Yeah, absolutely talk about longevity. LeBron first player to play with his son. and his son is making a rounds now on. the internet see some internet reports. Want you to clear this up for me. Did. you text Bronny James to break the Luka. trade or how did this how did this work. with him sending that into the Lakers. group chat Shams? Can we pull that tweet up? Sure. >> pull that tweet up? >> Boom. Right from your burner. >> What's the tweet? I can't even I can't. see it. I Oh, we have it up Jesus. Louise.

So he put my tweet. See some people hit. me they're like. Yo, why are you. why is it coming out that you were. texting players? I'm like what are you. talking about? It says right there. So they're saying that. Bronny. posted my tweet in the Lakers group. chat. >> That's right. That's right. You told him. to do that. You told him to do that. I. think I had time I don't think I had. time to text anyone that night. I I had. time to pick up like five phone calls. that night. You being one of them Pat. you being one of them. My hands were.

shaking they were like this like. literally literally literally. Hey. Shams. >> I was I was sweating bullets. I was like. I don't want to typo. This is. you have typos and tweets. This is not. the tweet for a typo you know this this. is not the tweet for a typo. You got to. make sure you're on it. You can't have. any detail wrong and I I the only people. I was texting were the my sources on the. story. So about five people I was. talking to the last call I had this is. exactly how the call went. I picked up. I said did this.

really happen? Mhm. And the person goes. it did. That's it. Hung up. I I didn't. even have to say what it was. They didn't have to say what it was. We. knew it. And I put you know maybe 20 seconds. later I put it out. >> a self-censoring there in the in that. big of a moment? Yeah, it did. >> Airways. You know I can take advantage. of of this of The platform. Yeah, but. you're you're a you're senior NBA. Insider you need to make sure you yeah. Watch your mouth. >> Yeah, you need to watch your mouth and.

I'm about sick of your mouth too the way. you've been talking about these stories. Okay, so you need to slow it down Shams. That's a obviously the tweet heard. around the world very quickly. Hall of Fame Hall of Fame tweet Hall of. Fame break and uh So no I didn't I. didn't I I to clear up D-Bug I did not. text Bronny James anything about. anything that night or or really any. night but. you know that night was was five people. I was in constant communication with.

over 7 minute period. and then my phone started going crazy. >> sources. Picked up my guy Tom D'Angelo's call. SportsCenter producer shout out to him. You obviously called. So there were a. few there were a couple GMs I picked up. a couple other people but. yeah that there it is. There it is. >> Yeah, this doesn't even count for people. that screenshotted and posted it. themselves. I I mean this thing's over a. billion obviously no typos great. capitalized letters there. I think you. really pieced it together well and I.

will say his. his hands were shaky strictly because I. did FaceTime him and uh. it was like he was in that moment of. like holy [ __ ] like it just happened you. know and I was telling him he got. hacked. I think everybody's probably. telling you that. >> And you knew I was woefully unprepared. cuz what did I I had glasses on you you. you've seen my you you've you're one of. few people that have seen you know the. hair without the hair. Shams looks very. cool without it all kind of you know. buttoned up just like whenever he's not. saying words. You know like Shams got a.

little messy hair and he's not doing the. king. You know what I mean? He is. there's two Shamses here and we. appreciate this Shams obviously. >> coolness. I expect Shams to be a wake up. and make the bed type of guy too. You. know you're in the hotel but jeez Shams. It's made what are you what are you. talking No, right there on the over your. left shoulder brother it's right there. on the Made poorly. YOU KIDDING ME? WHAT? ARE YOU 40 YEARS. OLD? IT'S MADE. Am I tripping? What are you. putting it on the counter for? What. what's going on?

What's it on the side table for? What are you what's that? You might have. a little straggler on the side but it's. a made bed over here. Yeah, who made it. Helen Keller? Jeez. Come on Shams. Helen Keller would have felt that on the. side. That's a good point be better. If I had to get cuz that was right? That. was her entire Deaf and blind. means of. uh That's wild the amount of patience. Oh. We don't have to get into that. We don't.

have to get into that. We don't want to. get into that. Let's talk about patience there's going. to have to be some in New York you know. because we're all figuring it out. Go. ahead calm man. Yeah Shams as a Celtics. fan I just try and rile Bruce up as much. as I can cuz he loves the Knicks and he. actually is kind of pissed off today cuz. Karl-Anthony Towns one is questionable. for night tonight and two said that he. doesn't really know what his role in the. offense is with their new coach Mike. Brown. So what's going on with the. Knicks? Did they kind of build a team.

for Thibodeau's style and now they're. realizing that they have to completely. change the team because Mike Brown's. style is different. What do you kind of. expect the Knicks to be this year and am. I wrong in thinking that the Cavaliers. are going to win by 50 tonight? No, I mean the the the Knicks and the. Cavs have the pressure going into the. season to be the. you know coming out of the East. I mean. they're they're. Orlando Atlanta. Detroit. you know Philadelphia if if healthy.

Boston's going to always be competitive. and we'll see Jason Tatum the way he. looks I'm sure he really wants to come. back this season but yeah, I mean those. are that's the pressure that they have. when you fire Tom Thibodeau after making. the conference finals. you know it's championship robust. Mike. Brown is entering a championship robust. situation. The Knicks roster knows it. but even the players in Cleveland know. that this is a championship type season. championship robust season. That's. what's on the line at least getting to. the finals. So what comes with that of. course there's going to be growing pains.

like I think. Jalen Brunson Karl-Anthony Towns OG. Anunoby. Immanuel Quickley all trying to figure. out exactly how Mike Brown is as a coach. his offensive systems and all that but. honestly BC the thing that I'm more. worried about than anything is the fact. in New York right now is so. you know like they're dealing with. injuries like they're they're banged up. already and the season hasn't started. Mitchell Robinson is out tonight Josh. Hart is out tonight. Those are that's. your starting center and essentially. your sixth man who basically can be a.

starter for your team. So you're already. starting the year and those two guys I'm. I think there's a very real chance. they're missing real time to start the. year Mitchell Robinson. it's been touch-and-go with him all. throughout the last couple years. He's. had ankle surgery. ankle surgeries. He's had you know time. off. He only played I think 17 games you. know 18 games or whatever last season. So this is a team they need to be. healthy. They need Mitchell Robinson. I'm more concerned right now about how. banged up they are even Kat he's dealing.

with a quad strain. We'll see if he. plays tonight. I I would expect him to. try everything he can to play. He's he's. been playing through a ton of pain. throughout the last few years. So. I'm more concerned about their health. I watched Kat run up and down that court. against the Pacers with these eyes right. here. I'm happy I'm not that tall. Yeah, he's. logging. [Music]. After about 40 times of that I I don't. know how a body that large kind of.

continues to go. He was a weapon for him. whenever he was balling though. Big Perk was killing it for the Knicks. for a while. Big games obviously tonight. and last question obviously comes from. Ty about a an ex-big man. Go ahead Ty. Yeah Shams we need an update. New. season's officially started. Zion looks. absolutely jacked. He's no longer a. fatso which everyone absolutely loves. What does this mean for the Pelicans? I. feel like we've been doing this you know. the last five years really ever since. he's drafted now you know it's kind of.

they gave him the keys okay and and is. he going to be able to take him to the. playoffs? What's going on with Zion and. the Pelicans? I'm looking at their injury report and. all of their main players are healthy. Kevon Looney their backup big he's out. to start the year but everyone else that. matters is healthy and that's the only. thing that matters for the Pelicans. When Zion Williamson's on the court we. know he leads to winning and he leads to. success. The problem is he has not been. able to stay on the court and then when. he misses time with soft tissue injuries.

he. obviously. you know he he looks different than. before and he also Smoothie King. sets. him back conditioning wise his. basketball shape and it prolongs his. time period and the Pelicans trying to. look out for him set these expectations. and set these ground rules but they do. have a. new management in there. Joe Dumars is a. new president of basketball operations. there David Griffin Let him play. Let him play. He's one-on-one two-on-two. three-on-three four-on-four.

five-on-five. Well let's hope it doesn't. get to that point this this season with. him but Joe Dumars I will say this he's. a guy that's won a championship. He's. he's was the champion with the Bad Boy. Pistons then he was the the GM of the of. the Pistons in the 2000s when they won a. championship then. He's been a part of. building cultures, building teams, and. he's holding Zion Williamson. accountable. I think this is for the. first time in his career he's had a. voice like this really hold him. accountable. And so, this is a pretty.

make or break season for Zion. Williamson, for the Pelicans, see how. this team looks. So, when he's on the court, we know what we. get, and he looks like he's in shape. this year. Yes, he is. We appreciate it. LET'S GO, ZION. ZION RESPECTS the art of being a chef, okay? So, he dabbles every once in a. while. Everyone and then he just doesn't. do as much working out as he's supposed. to do. And then all of a sudden. everybody says with his style, the way. he is built, they say this guy is this. guy is fat. Then he goes on a court, he. has a quadruple-double somehow, okay?

And that's just the Zion Williamson. story. Everybody looks at him, says he. can't do it. And then down there in the. Pelicans they're like, "Well, we need. him to be able to run 45 wind sprints.". It's like, "Can we just get [ __ ] 5. minutes out of this guy cuz he puts ball. in hoop, and then he finds some He's. electrifying whenever he plays. He is. dominant whenever he plays. So, if we. get a Zion Williamson Please. >> We've been pulling for this for like a. half decade now. LONG TIME SINCE I. STARTED SEEING HIM DUNK. I'VE SAID THIS. NUMEROUS TIMES. SO, I I I hate it. >> Look at this. Look at this. Boom, he's. been doing that on little tiny white. kids in South Carolina on the internet.

since I'm what, like 25 years old? I'm. 38 right now. >> Yeah. So, he's been doing that a long. time. I I have followed Zion's story. The shoe blowout, the whole thing. I. love how he is so explosive. Just he is. such an explosive athlete. Like, they. don't make a lot of humans in the. history of the world that are as. explosive as Zion. To be able to be as. big as he's always been, and to be able. to do what he does at the effortlessness. that he does it, it's like this is. special talent. Then he gets the. Pelicans and they won on the on the. Yeah. on the court. And he has good. vibes, too. Like, he's a he's like a.

jovial guy. Yeah, that's why it sucks. >> himself into some stuff off the court, but because he's Yeah, exactly. >> You know, so it's it's an interesting. dynamic down there with him and the. Pelicans. And then they pay him a bunch. of money and then they're like, "Yeah, we're still not going to. still not going to let you play though. You got to be able to. we want to see more out of you." I don't. know if I'm ever going to get that. They. got a new [ __ ] chef right down the. street right here. I don't know if you. want that. Yeah, now they're going to. let him out there. I hope it happens. Let's go, Zion. Looking back on it, it's. crazy like the how him and Ja went one. and two, and like how their careers have.

both, you know, gone. They've both been. paid, they've both been very successful, but like very two different like. controversial number one and number two. overall picks now. And they can wrap it. up in the Hall of Fame. >> Hell yeah. That's right. And that's what. it's all about. The thing is like both. of them have a chance here, still have a. trajectory line here to like make a. great sec, you know, I don't know if. second half is the word. These guys are. still so young. Like, it's scary. These. guys like 25 years old talking about. like how they're going to finish their. career. They have their whole, you know, 26, however old they are, they have.

their whole career. But I think everyone in the league would. love like even even fans of his, other. players, they'd love to see him put. together a 70-game season. You know, he. the way he's dunking, he should be in. the dunk contest. Try to lead this team. to the play-in playoffs. Like, that's. what everyone's been waiting for from. Zion. Oh, let's be real here. I mean, I. mean, do they play 82? We just saw the. goat last night, 82 games. 70 would be. great. Let's get Zion to play 35. >> Yeah.

That's what I'm saying. I said it sound like WHAT IT WOULD SOUND. LIKE. >> we Listen, I'm a big Zion guy. First of. all, I I like fat Zion. So, I don't know. if I love new jacked Zion. We'll see if. he's the same guy. Connor said he's very. jovial. Being very jovial is a fat guy. trait. That's not really like a jacked. guy trait. So, I remember I remember. him. Bingo. Yeah, living, breathing. embodiment right here. Yeah. So, I mean. >> people. >> We'll see. AQ Adrian. Yeah, but you know what? To be a dog,

maybe he has to be a little miserable, a. little hungry. You're right. Maybe. that's the new Zion. >> Wait, AQ or. What's that? Is. AJ? Okay. All right. All right, I forgot about that. Yeah. That was you, Shams Insider, but not for. football, obviously, or the program. Last question here from D But for you, big big debut tonight. >> Oh, yeah, going from one Duke number one. pick to another one, Cooper Flag. What. what should we expect from his usage? Heard some reports about him being a. point guard for the Mavs. What should we. expect from Cooper Flag?

I think I think he's going to spend a. lot of the early part of the year at at. point guard. We'll see what the final. starting lineup is, but the way they. finished the the preseason was D'Angelo. Russell coming off the bench, and Cooper. Flag as the point guard. I mean, this. guy does everything. He's able to impact. the game on every single level already. in the league. So, I I think it's going. to be very interesting to see the now. the playmaking game so early in his. career. They're kind of experimenting. with it. Kyrie Irving, we'll see when. he's going to be back. Obviously, that's. their that's their point guard.

when when he's healthy, but in the. meantime, I think they're going to put. him in position pretty early. Jason Kidd. says we got him. This whole them getting. number one overall pick with this Cooper. Flag main event generational type talent. after the Luka trade that we just talked. about having at least a billion views. and becoming the topic of conversation. It's certainly some conspiracy fodder, and your name is involved in all of. them, including group texts. We. appreciate the hell out of you for. joining us, Shams. Have a great NBA. season. >> Appreciate you guys. Happy NBA season. We'll be talking soon. Let's see that.

Let's see that bed real quick one more. time, can we? Just so we. See, that can't happen. Hey, hey, look. at this. Look at this. That's a made. bed. >> No, it's not. Look at the pillows. Why. are the blankets Hold on. So, look at. the blankets on the left side, too. It. feels like you This is like your thing. You put them up on the on the side. tables. It's No, no, no. We have some stragglers. here, you know? It's a big bed. I love my my comforters. Maybe I got double comforters here. The. pillows are up. >> Oh, double comforter, okay. Double. comforter. But look, this one's on the.

table. >> Oh, yeah, on the left. >> over here, too. Yeah, you keep moving, Shams. On your. right, Shams. >> side, too. This one's. over here. It's on the table, right? Didn't it, Shams? Maybe the comforter is. so big you can't you know, you can't. tell if it's a MADE BED. >> A COMFORTER THAT'S BIG ENOUGH FOR YOUR. bed that fits the size of your bed. >> But I I also How do you not know when. you're making the bed? Cuz you're you. have to be pulling. >> Oh, no, I got an extra 6 ft here. >> Actually, there's a chance that Shams. does You ever see those people jump in.

the pool feet first and then they like. go all the way down? Shams actually goes in the in the top. under the under the. So, he doesn't even the pull them up on. the. I think this is a seven seven and a half. rated make the bed MOMENT RIGHT HERE. YOU ARE A DISRESPECTFUL LOT OF MADE beds. right now. He's got some nice spirits. You're out of control, ladies and. gentlemen. Shams Charania, thank you. So, he pulled those up, right? Had to.

Unless he did the which he could have or. from the bottom. Yeah, bottom slide. >> Could have which he could have done. that. Yeah, he All right, we're good. That's. what he did, right? that's what That's. what he might do, too, when he gets in. bed. He might just throw them up as fast. as possible and then. That's a chance. Yeah. I mean, there's a. chance with Shams. He showed doubt in. into, you know, having conversations, building. relationships, getting inside. information. Outside of that, I don't. know Shams, you know? I don't I don't. know with him. No. I never know with. Shams. Yeah. Well, that's why we love.

him. Bingo. Well said. The water alarms. What's that? >> drink water alarms. >> Yeah, lunch the uh oatmeal uh fork in. the oatmeal Yeah, that's certainly a. move. That's a decision that was made. Wife had a little potato soup the other. day. Ooh. >> thick though. Didn't know if I should go. with the spoon or the fork, you know, cuz there was little bacon bits on top. as well. Went with spoon. I am a fork. user though. I think I would rather fork.

than spoon. Basically, nine times out of. 10. I I think I'm more of a fork guy. It. is very interesting cuz I've been having. the same debacle with my microwave. meals, and I have learned that I am a. spoon guy, no matter what. >> Really? Yeah, like I've been eating like. just steak and rice little, you know, pre-made ones. >> So, you'll go down in the corner, use. that thing as a shovel. BINGO. I'M A CUZ. THAT'S WHERE I THAT'S where I come in. I. have problems cuz my guys, you know, pitchforky, they can't they can't get it. all. So, I got to turn this on the side. and I'm cradling this way. You see, you.

guys are doing a little bit of this, it. feels like. >> Oh, yeah. Yeah, still use. sporks. Yeah, boom. What's that, buddy? >> use sporks. Okay, so you. >> in elementary school. You go into your. kitchen. Mhm. Oh, hey, it's a pretty. good day. Let me go ahead and get a. paper plate for sure. That's my house. I'm a big paper plate guy. Paper plate. for sure. Let me pull that out. Let me. go ahead and open this drawer right. here. Spork. >> Yeah, got How's that? >> spoons, butter knives, forks, sporks. Metal. >> Always love Metal silverware, very nice. silverware. Spork metal spork metal.

spork. [Laughter]. I mean, always available. >> Always. If you have sporks, that is I. mean, I'm so jealous. I haven't been. jealous like this ever, I think. Silverware spork. If you have metal. sporks, yeah. Yeah, cuz you only think. of spork being a plastic or the. sh. >> Exactly. Took months. Took months to come in. KFC, right? They're the only one. KFC's the the plastic sporks, right? That's the model we we used. So, hey, we. need to say actual match the rest of the. set. That's like a little chipper on the side. of the green. You know, it's just like.

perfect for the occasion. They're. unduffable. It's the Exactly. It is the. unduffable silverware. That is exactly. what. >> Ice cream, soup, Oh. >> spaghetti Doesn't matter. OH MY WHAT THE. HELL? >> THAT IS the right move. >> I DON'T KNOW HOW I HAVE A SPORK. ICE. CREAM cracking through, and then don't. worry, I got you, says the spoon. Oh my. god, everything. Spaghetti is I mean, boy, cuz usually you get the big, you. know, serving spoon with the fork to. kind of twist if you want. >> All in one. [ __ ] it, that's for the birds. Get a.

spork. Yeah, get both of them. Yeah. I. think you guys use scissors while you're. eating spaghetti. Sometimes. Sometimes. it calls for it. I think I'm out on. spaghetti. Just as a whole? Yeah, like I think I'm. a penne guy. Yeah, I think penne pasta is fantastic. I'm a little linguine too. Yeah, I'll do. that entire game. Uh I agree spaghetti is my least. favorite of the pastas, but boy do the. Italians love having a good spaghetti. Like you go to an Italian's house. Yeah, no thanks. >> and like would much rather the thicker. one that has a little bit more. Like no,

you got to try the spaghetti. It's like. okay, I'll definitely do that, but the. other ones I think are better. You guys. should maybe take a little bit more. pride in those ones than you do in. spaghetti. Why Nick, why is the. spaghetti always the one? Why is it just. the orig? It is the orig. It's standard. It's it's just the best option. It goes. with everything. I see, and that's what. we're saying. We we don't agree with. you. >> Yeah. We we think the other one is a. much better all the the penne one the. rigatone not bad either. Sure. Both. ties. Yeah, the both ties not bad. >> Tortellini. Tortellini. There's so many. different options. >> never be out of spaghetti. No, that's.

because of the tradition of it I think. It right? Is that what you're doing? Yeah, I mean it's just it's got to just. It's always just Sometimes go a long. ways. Good goes with everything. Like. yeah. And also you can get a little. parmesan on top of it. Don't even need. the sauce or the gravy, whatever it is. For me though, I don't like the. the Yeah, don't like sucking it up. >> Yeah. I don't want to eat my food through a. straw like you are with spaghetti and. and But you got to be able to do the. hang and that's where the scissors come. in. Cuz you do the twisty twist and then. you do the scissors. Now all of a sudden. guess what that is? That's a fat ass. rigatone all of a sudden right on the.

fork. And it's like yep, I got to the. final game that I was looking for here. Thank you for letting me do that. Nonetheless, shout out to the Italians. You guys got it. Fazoli's. The only place you can eat spaghetts. Fazoli's, baby. It's the only place they. do it right. Everywhere else it tastes. like cologne. Okay. That's not. That's not real. >> places that. the only Italian houses I've been where. I eat spaghetts. No thanks. Not good. No. Yeah, right. >> Terrible. LET'S GO TO HAMMER DON DON.

ANTHONY DIGIULIO, WHAT the hell is going. on out here with this conversation about. bad skets out here and Vaselini's being. the only good spaghetti. Sounds like a. bunch of Irishmen talking ABOUT ITALIAN. FOOD. SCOTTISH TOO. I'M A I'M A RIGATONE GUY. OKAY, ME TOO. We're Okay. So we're all. on the same page even the Italians now. Me and you are not on the same page. Ever. Well, rigatone you guys are pretty. on the same side. Oh what, you don't like penne? Okay.

Whatever. Guys eat steak with a spoon. No, spork actually. That's different. NO, THAT WAS D-VON. OH, YEAH. YEAH, YEAH, you're right. You're right. You're. right. When it's cut When it's cut up. already, you know, he's getting the. pre-made meals obviously, which a lot of. people are doing now. >> They're so good. Feels like the chefs. are getting good at distributing good. food for people to get into like shape. I I think that's I think that's a good. advancement of society that we have. right now. Nothing nothing makes me more. mad than whenever they don't they don't. pronounce the vowel at the end. Prosciutto, mozzarell. Who's they? Who's. they? What are you talking about?

Mozzarella. Mozzarella. Technically it's prosciutto. No, it's gabagool. It's mozzarella. No, I hate it. It's prosciutto, yeah. >> Pronounce the vowel at the end. You are This is the Joe Dinoro. Disgusting. This is a part of the. problem. I didn't know this was going to. Let's go back TO HAMMER DON DON. Anthony. DiGiulio, this is disgusting out here. Sick. Why don't we just call HIM ANTHONY. DIGIUL? WE DO. WE DO. We actually do call him. Anthony.

And there's an EO at the end like. E-I-E-I-O. So you would have to hit the. E at least at the beginning. Anthony. DiGiulio, I I don't like what's going on. here amongst the stage. I want to let. the Italian conglomerate know that I am. 0.1% Italian and it's documented. >> And we love you. And grazie and prego. for that. And I'm thinking about going. and renting an Italian club and joining. the the pepperonis. >> The pepperonis. The Irwin pepperoni. You. should think about joining uh coach. Diggs's team instead. He's got a great.

team name for his boys. What's the name. of the team? Ask Tony. Tony, what's the. name of the I can't remember. Isn't it the fighting. the fighting day nabbits or something. like that? >> No, I don't think that was the name, but. they are a tough squad on that bocce. court I'll say. They don't like playing. on the rocks they got over there at Penn. Hills, but we'll certainly get it. figured out. Tony, we appreciate you. buddy for sticking up for the Italians. cuz they got it disgusting out here. Yeah, that was gross. I love the. Italians. Thanks a lot, AJ. Italian. food. Appreciate it, AJ. That was outrageous.

The AJs. Yeah. That was good. Well, you. should be going by fake name anyways. with what you said about the Italians. Might be smart for you to lay low for a. little while. They I think they just need to pronounce. the vowel at the end. That's it. Pepperone you're talking about? You're talking about a bocce team name. That's a brand. That's a brand name. Yeah, you're right. We should probably shouldn't rile up AQ. Shipley anymore just cuz he might blow a. gasket. All right, let's uh let's talk. about some of the news that happened. around the sports world over the last 24. hours.

Um the NHL did. uh hit a home run. The NHL had a magical. moment. The NHL did something and the. Boston Bruins and the Boston Bruins fans. did something that happened, you know, I. I don't want to say. um. very rarely cuz it does happen. You. know, like it feels like sports do try. to pay respect to the people that have. given to their team, to their cities, to. their franchises. Now everybody does it. differently. You know, Jerry Jones said. when Emmitt Smith came back, of course. we [ __ ] do. For Marchand, there's there's enough to.

say thank you. We said thank you. Thank. you. Thank you. Thank you. Okay, we're. getting out of here. There's none of. that. Here with the Colts, I got a. chance to see Edgerrin James who. obviously meant so much to city and. team. He got an entire video. I think. Jeff Saturday did as well. Obviously. Peyton Manning did so. This does happen. This is something that does take place, but the way teams kind of do it and how. the fans buy in and how the player. receiving it uh kind of operates. certainly makes the moment great or. makes the moment bad. What Marchand. returning to Boston happened like that. was some of the most beautiful [ __ ] I've.

ever seen in the history of sports I. Yeah. damn near say. Now obviously. there's breakthrough moments that have. happened in sports that made the world a. lot better. There's championship moments. that'll be icon uh. uh. Immortalized? >> Immortalized forever. There's the word. I'm looking for. But it's like this. moment right here, I think everybody's. going to be trying to chase whenever. they're trying to pay tribute to. somebody who means so much for their. city. How long was Marchy up in Boston? And on that note, you as Bruins fan. watching this, I mean I got teary-eyed. watching this. I'm a Pittsburgh Penguins. fan. I assume you did as well. >> Yeah, he was there for 16 years. And it.

was his whole career. It's not like he. started somewhere else. He started in. Boston, stayed in Boston. You know, was. the rookie young kid making a name for. himself. Was awesome right away too. He. he's been the same player the entire. time. And that's the stuff that like. really gets you. Like him and his kids. You know, cuz. when he first came here, he didn't have. an entire family and his kids grew up. here and he talked about it after the. fact like yeah, it was very emotional. for me driving into the stadium or the. arena because then I started thinking. about everything my kids have sacrificed.

and my family just to go from Boston to. Florida, you know, in that sense too, but also just supporting him through his. entire hockey journey. I mean, the thing. is too, no one will ever wear the number. 63 again in Boston. And and Boston is an. original six hockey team. It's a. historic franchise. He's one of six. players to ever score 1,000 points for. the Boston Bruins. And you look at that. list and it's Bergeron, it's Bobby Orr, it's Ray Bourque. It's legends of the. game. And you know, he's in that. category. I'm sure for him being a.

undersized NHL player, you never imagine. when you're starting out like yeah, I'm. going to be a 20-year vet with my jersey. retired in multiple places. And now he. might be that. And he did leave the door. open after the game like I do see myself. possibly coming back if the situation. presents itself. >> Panther Marchy, did you How did you feel. watching that all take place? I mean. that was awesome. I love when the. places just celebrate their legends for. sure. And. and that took me back to last year when. he was traded. The one time in however.

many years we were working together that. comment legitimately wanted to fight me. I came in after the trade, hit him on. the back and he like the look in his. eyes like okay, this is real. And. watching that, experiencing that, it. took me back to them okay, they really. love this guy. And we love him too. And. he loves them. >> Yeah. I like that he got emotional out. there. Florida gets the win off a. terrible. Meant to be. The NHL was awesome. The. NBA was incredible. The NFL is about to. cook. And we have JJ Watt on the other. side. Be a friend, tell a friend. something nice. It might change your.

life. We'll see you then. You know what? I think there's only one. thing left to do here. I've experienced. cafecito time. I've experienced the wonderful culture. I've experienced the beautiful people. and I THINK WE GOT SOME CHANGE OVER. HERE. WE GOT SOME CHANGE OVER HERE. WE GOT SOME CHANGE OVER HERE. THIS DAY IN CORAL GABLES IS GOING TO BE. ONE THAT I WILL REMEMBER FOR THE REST OF.

MY LIFE. RAY LEWIS STARTED HIS DANCE. RIGHT HERE AT MIAMI. ED REED STARTED HIS. LEGENDARY RUN HERE AT MIAMI. THE LEGENDS OF FOOTBALL RUN DEEP. THE. MOMENTS ARE SPECIAL. THE NATIONAL. CHAMPIONSHIPS ARE IN ABUNDANCE. JUST. LAST YEAR, A LOVELY UNIVERSITY OF MIAMI. WOMAN DIVING FROM ITALY WON A NATIONAL. CHAMPIONSHIP. This thing's been staring.

at me all. DAMN. DAY. YOU'RE OUT OF YOUR MIND, BROTHER. KIRK, I'M A LITTLE WINDED. YOU TALKED THE WHOLE TIME YOU WERE. RUNNING. I'm giving you a chance to. catch your breath, you dumb [ __ ]. >> You're crazy. I hope somebody got a. lifesaver over there. Is there a lot of. ladders? What's up? My man is out of. breath. And it's a long way. TO THE TOP.

SOMEBODY Are you going to jump in the. water? Yeah, so I'm tired for you. Oh my god. Oh, he's going to take the. jacket off. Okay. Okay. Oh, he's taking his shirt off now. >> Okay. All right. All right. Looking ripped. Looking ripped. Oh, he's taking the drawers off. Ladies. and gentlemen, the pants. WHAT THE DRAWERS? LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, IF YOU COME TO THIS BEAUTIFUL CAMPUS, you will notice QUICKLY THAT THE.

STUDENTS HERE LOVE THIS UNIVERSITY. THEY. LOVE. this atmosphere. AND I'M WITH EVERYBODY. I THINK. THAT U. IS BACK. GIVE ME. HE'S GOT THE SPEEDO. OH MY GOD. GIVE ME THE. [Laughter].

[Applause]. CAN YOU stand it? Here it goes. Oh god. Here it goes. Feet together. FEET TOGETHER. I THINK THAT WAS UNBELIEVABLE. SO, for. the pencil. [Applause]. Can you stand the U? Brushing it out. Oh my god. Mark, if he wouldn't be. brushing it out. Miami and Florida tonight. Let's have a.

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Darius J. Butler is here. What are you. wearing there? I'm a McLaren fit. Nice hoodie. You know, two drivers trying to get. their first championship this year. Is. that the one that Van der Stoppen's on? Uh no. Van der. Verstappen Verstappen Max. Max Verstappen G1 Are we good? Max Verstappen He actually is driving. for. Red Bull. Oh, really? Who's Who's on.

McLaren? Is that uh That is Let's see if. you got it. I think you got it. That's. Mr. Lewis Hamilton. And uh Not Sir. Hamilton, but he did just set the record. for all-time points scored over 5,000. for a race. >> That's got to be either Oscar or Lando. >> Both of them. Boom. Boom. Boom. I will. say I got an assist on Lando. Ah, come. on, bro. >> on Oscar Piastri. I feel pretty good. that I pulled Oscar out. Yeah, Pistorius. And I'll tell you what. No, no, that's not his name. Ah, hey. >> He's from South Africa, too. I don't.

think that's right. >> down under. Yeah. Poor little Ting Ting, too. If that whole thing wouldn't have. happened. >> I know. I mean, who knows where we're. sitting now. >> Truly. Nine-year 12-year NFL vet, Super. Bowl champion A.J. Shipley is here to. see you. A.J. Shipley. A.J. Shipley, we're about to get into your takeaways, but please let me introduce a man who. was a HOF nominee this year, but did not. make it to the semi-final, but this is. uh s- kind of standard operating. procedure from uh my experience, you. know. I was HOF nominee three times. A.J., I think he's going to go on to. make the Hall of Fame, and he should. This guy's the all-time leading tackler.

for the Green Bay Packers. He is a. college football national champion with. the Ohio State Buckeyes. He's a Super. Bowl champion with the Green Bay. Packers. And this man has a tree on a. campus named after him. And it's not just a redwood, Taylor. Ladies and gentlemen, A.J. Hawk. Yeah, A.J. Hawk. The reason more of a Japanese maple or. is it more of a redwood, the tree that. you have on there, uh A.J.? Uh it would. be a buckeye tree, you know, Ohio State. Buckeyes. That's where I went to school, so that kind of makes sense. What does a. buckeye tree look like? Is that thing uh.

Like the chocolate. >> Pretty sweet. Look them up. They're pretty sweet, you. know. Buckeyes, you know, they they grow. on them. They're very They're very hard. You can throw them at people if you. want. Nuts. Yeah, that's what we're. talking about. So, so what is the bill? Is it a. uh. What is the bill? Is it a rounder? Is it. a little Christmas tree or It's got a. It's got a trunk, and then it goes up. like that. Oh. Like an apple tree. I. think I could take your little buckeye. tree with one of those. >> think that's exactly a buckeye tree. right there. >> I could take that thing down with a SHIN. KICK. MHM. I I THINK I COULD I THINK I.

COULD POTENTIALLY GET ONE OF THOSE right. there. Is that Is that A.J.'s tree right. there? Did we just look up actually A.J. A.J. Hawk's buckeye? No. Do buckeye. trees normally sit amongst their. friends? Is it normally like a. a what a chattering I don't know how it. works in the wild. It's called buckeye. grove where they plant them, so they are. amongst their friends there, for sure. You're telling me that I couldn't go. shin kick that thing in half right there. that I just saw? That thing on the on. the internet that you pulled up, yes, you could definitely kick that little. baby tree down for I didn't pull up AI. I did. Okay, that On that note, AI's.

cooking for these sports books in the. NBA, okay? We need to know that they're. going to be throwing a hot, hot, hot, hot, hot baseball in this basketball. odds world. Now, Gumpy, obviously one. half of the hammer, Cowboys, didn't even know there was NBA. action. He He was actually betting on. Cuso last night. It was Conference USA, and then maybe some footy. But there are. people that are noted basketball. gamblers, and what we would like to let. people know is they know what's going. on. Okay? These sports books know what's.

going on. What were some of the bets. that you had last night on Kevin Wayne. Durant? I had him to go over his prop, which I believe was at 23 and a half. Well, I know, at least in the book that. I bet on, it was at 23 and a half. He. ended up with 23 points in a double. overtime game on opening night, which is. tough. And then Steph Curry, I believe his was. maybe 24 points, and he was one short as. well. So, you know, you bet on two. all-time greats on opening night. And. you know, they're right there. And they. go up early cuz their shots are falling.

Shots are falling. KD, he came out hot. first half. He's cooking. And they're. feeding him the ball. Mhm. Of course. >> they turn and and KD, it's like, wait a. minute, these guys are the new This is. the new duo they're doing. >> Yeah, I think I made a decision to just. bet on, especially after the. conversation yesterday with the great. Steve Nash, I think I'm just betting on. international guys going forward. >> Okay, cuz they're going to They're going. to block the wood. You know that. Luka. Doncic, Joker, Giannis, SGA. Uh yeah, yeah. I think I'm going to go with those. guys. Okay, not a bad idea. Let's go. international heavy on the prop betting.

for the NBA. Just to kind of reiterate. the fact about them knowing what the. hell's going on. You mentioned a stat. about the sports books last night. >> Yeah, points and rebounds for KD was 28. and a half. He had 20 and eight going. into overtime, got one rebound in. overtime to get the over 29. And then I. guess in the double overtime he hit a. three as well. So, I mean, without the. overtime, a lot of bets don't hit last. night, especially with Kevin Durant prop. bets. SGA, too, just looks like he's. shooting at a bigger bucket, A.J. This. guy's special. I don't know how much of. the game you got to see last night. The.

Oklahoma City Houston Rockets game in. Oklahoma City on banner night. And. shout-out to the boys that are currently. on Houston. They got a chance to watch. the banner fall and them get their ring. The rings were very. ingenu- uh Yeah. A lot of ingenuity in their rings. So, you're able to just pop off a ring, and. then basically get a smaller ring that. you can wear out and about in the public. cuz nobody can wear Super Bowl rings. except for Bruce Arians when he comes in. here. And he puts this thing on, and it.

literally looks like he's got a I I. don't know, some caricature of a ring on. his hand, and it. just makes noise. Sitting in the safe. A.J. needs to do. that, but it's so big. I think a lot of. people talk about it. There was even a. multiple tweets about like how a lot of. people say these Super Bowl rings and. championship rings are getting too big. So, for them to think past that and be. like, oh, it's actually get a little. ring inside of it where you can put all. the stuff. Then the boys can wear that. whenever they want to go out and about. And then obviously, whenever we want to. flex our [ __ ] we can go ahead and put. the bigger one on. This Oklahoma City. team is special, A.J. That's what I. think I watched last night. They're only.

going to continue to be at. Yeah, I would I'd actually like to. attend a game there. I I bet it's one of. those places where if you go in person, especially, you feel like the atmosphere. and how they rally around the squad. It. uh I watched the whole pregame situation. where they're getting their rings and. all that. Man, Oklahoma City seems like. the the center of the basketball. universe right now if you watch. Well, I. mean, let's not get crazy, okay? Cuz we. got the fever here doing doing all these. magical things. The Pacers obviously. about to go off and do something magical. with Rick Carlisle. But on that note, we.

all watched as Pacers fans last year. during the finals like, damn, that place. is awesome. That place is cool. And the. people like watching their style of. play. Now, SGA was called foul merchant. and all these things. He's just so much. better than seemingly everybody on the. court at just getting buckets. The guy. will get a bucket whenever the hell he. wants. They needed a two because Kevin. Durant missed a free throw. Everybody's. like, you can't miss that. If he would. have made it, and they needed a three, SGA's knocking down a step-back three. Like that is just kind of who he is at. this stage of his career. He's fun to.

watch, man. His mindset, too, is deadly. >> Yeah, and I've been loving watching in. some of the clips from the starting five. that he has kind of behind the scenes. Just his whole vibe and his mindset. I. think a part of it he was like they. asked him about a 30-point game and he. was like that was a below average game. for me because obviously he averages. more than 30 points. He is one great guy. to bet on on that on that note. But. yeah, he's a walking bucket. He's a. clutch bucket. He can get it on all. three levels. He can get to the rim. He. can hit the mid-range which is kind of a. lost art at this point in the game. I.

love everything about SGA's game. And. then hearing other great scorers kind of. talk about him. James Harden was talking. about how kind of easy the game has. become for SGA at this point in time. So, love watching him play. Yeah, and. that's the other thing about some of. these props, too. Like the big guys like. me and D Butts were betting on KD. You. know, you're never going to go wrong. doing that. But if you were to bet. Sengun, a guy like that who's always. been good but now is starting the year. super hot. >> Yeah, the two. Exactly. Like his odds. are massive. And then there's another.

European guy playing for the Bulls, Matas Buzelis. And he actually. is one of those dudes people think are. going to be really good. And like his. odds to score are high. And when I say. international, I mean he's from Illinois. but his name is Matas Buzelis. Okay, so. it sounds like at one point potentially. family was not from here. >> Exactly. >> Which kind of sounds like everybody. Wait. Hold on. Wait. So, we betting on everybody now. We're. not getting into it. We're not doing. that. Here's some stats from Hambo about. last night's Oklahoma City-Houston game.

SGA has scored 20 plus points in 73. straight games. >> Jesus Christ. [Laughter]. This guy's unbelievable. >> you can bet on him to score 20 points. for that. >> Yeah, they won't even get an odd on. that. Passed Kevin Durant and Michael. Jordan for the fourth longest streak in. NBA history. People have done it more. Okay, we shall see. Thunder outscored. the Rockets 26 to 12 in points off. turnovers. Kevin Durant took only three. shots in the fourth quarter or OT which. certainly made Jerry Stackhouse Butler. pumped about betting on his over there. including zero in the first overtime.

He's passing a lot. He was deferring a. lot to others. I found that interesting. Obviously new team. They'll kind of work. through it. And then Sengun here, the. big Turk fella. First Rockets player. with 35 points, 10 rebounds, and five. assists in a season opener in franchise. history. Rockets, their starting lineup. had an average height of 82.2 inches. The tallest for any starting lineup in a. season opener since starters were first. tracked in 1970 and 1971. So, hey Hambo, come on, bro. America, we need to know. what that is. >> Yeah, and that's going to get broken. tonight by the Mavericks just for the.

record for tallest lineup ever if Cooper. Flagg's playing point guard. >> Well, and then Wemby has an opportunity. to potentially break that with any. teammate that they bring in on any given. whim. But on that note, 82.2. inches. 12 24 6 ft 6 ft 7 in. Another would be. 12 that'd be. 6 ft 8 4 7 9. You're looking at about 6, yeah. 6 9 6 10 in that range. Now, that is us just saying what a high.

number would be in our mind. We didn't. do the actual math there, right? Well, I. just did you know 72 6 10 Yeah, 12 6 10. >> 12 * 5 you know. >> I was just saying a number that would be. a big average. That's literally all I. did. >> ft Yep. So, 6 10. 6 10 72 6 Yeah, yeah. So, 7 ft is yeah, 84 inches. >> Yep. It's a tall team. They're playing at a different altitude, AJ, than anybody since 1970-71 stat was. created, AJ. That's a tough team to. handle especially. >> a good thing? I mean, is that always a.

great thing? Can they get back on D? I. don't know. I mean, they lost. >> tall. You're not these big tall You. know, you watch them in person. These. guys aren't the stopping and starting. getting back. Like it's They are freak. athletes. We know that for being 6 10. SGA put Kevin Durant in a little bit of. a blender actually to get him to foul. out. Kevin Durant fouls out of last. night's game. He was bummed out, too. I. I appreciated how much he cared. It was. great team. He was on. Effort. Max. effort. too. That's a lot of max effort. on there. And then I think he was in. SGA's head. He's like, "Oh, he's going.

for it right now." SGA goes, "I don't. think so." And then gets him bang and. it's like you watch Kevin Durant bang. Like that's not good. He walks out. Obviously team needs him. And SGA just. knocks those down. I mean, that's just. what's going to happen. What do you. think about how the Thunder crowd booed. Kevin Durant? He He seemed like he loved. it and then he kind of spoke about it. after the game saying like, "You know, it's kind of in jest. That's just them. Obviously started there a long time ago. Long time. >> Long time ago. A lot of teams ago. Great. run there obviously with Russ and. Harden. And obviously everybody's had.

their own careers now since then. They're kind of like the Shield, aren't. they? A bit. Yeah. Yeah. Kind of like. the Shield, Roman Reigns. Is that. somewhere he might go back? Like we we. were talking about LeBron's the era. where he might, you know, sit in the. corner. Like if KD were ever to be in. that era, it feels like OKC would be the. place he would go back to do that. >> So, Kevin Durant is just sitting there. like it's a practice drill. He shoots. 60% from three. Think about that lineup. with you know, it'd be Chet Caruso. dunking on dudes in the fourth, too. Caruso in OT, AJ. That was in overtime.

That's the best. If you would have made. that dunk, they it would have been an. earthquake in Oklahoma City. Like this. was so awesome. >> What was I mean, honestly in his head. RIGHT HERE, "YEAH, I'M GOING. Don't. care. YEAH, I'M. GOING." CARUSO, WE LOVE IT. WE. absolutely love it. Caruso has certainly. found quite a home out there at Oklahoma. City. They all have. Joining us now is a. man who's found a home in the. in the booth. on Sundays. He's getting comfortable. He's showing different looks. Showing. different styles. Ladies and gentlemen, a first ballot Hall of Famer whenever. the time comes. A member of the Bull.

Ring of Honor for the Houston Texans. Woah. Oh my god. >> the last member. Lay down there. Jesus. Louise. Down into that ring. JJ Watt. JJ. Holy [ __ ] You look so cool. >> to come on and talk all nice about the. Colts. I'm ready to talk nice and then. you just want to come in hot. Hold on. Speaking of coming in hot. >> YEAH. GET OUT. JESUS LOUISE. WHAT? I had to look at the.

TV up here. Just get a closer look. You. look so cool right now. Do you. understand how cool you look right now? What is going on here? Because I saw the. glasses in the booth. Obviously we've. seen the hair come through a couple. different things. You said you were. trying some stuff. Appreciate you guys. having a good time. What are you? Just. enjoying life right now? That's why. you're doing this? I'm just messing. around, man. I love it. These were $5 on. Amazon. I just tossed them on. Just messing around. Having some fun. And look at the hair, too. You got. strong hair. >> I'm trying the Connor. Nice. Don't worry about the back, brother. The.

the the flow on the top is your. strength. >> Yeah. Yeah, let's keep this look right. here. This is really good. You might. even be able to take that son [ __ ] up a. little bit. You might be able to take that thing. right up right over top there. Just hey, you explore the space. You're doing a. great job. We appreciate you. Let's talk. a little bit. Did you watch any of the. NBA games last night? Do you have any. takes on that? I watched a little bit of it. I had my. my son was wrestling around a little bit. in the bed so I was bouncing back and. forth. I saw the end of regulation. I.

unfortunately did not see the end of two. overtimes. Monday night really buried me. staying up till 3:00 in the morning. watching the Texans game. That was tough. to watch stay up and watch and we won't. have to talk about the Texans anymore. I. don't want to make you feel bad. especially with how good you look. But. let's talk about the AFC South. Indianapolis Colts. I saw your tweet. I. retweeted it. I don't know when you. tweeted it but I don't know. I just saw. it and. your breakdown is everything that we. have been kind of thinking as well from. watching this team at the Loud House. But I do appreciate you having a chance. to learn about them, talk to them, watch.

a game, call the game especially against. a team I think we all respect in the. Chargers. What are your thoughts on the. Indianapolis Colts other than just this. tweet and they're for real, right? It. feels like they're actually for real, J. It's pretty incredible. You know, having. heard about them all season long and. finally being able to call one of their. games. The offensive efficiency. I mean, I just. sit up there in the booth and I'm. watching as a coordinator. Let's say. you're a defensive coordinator and I'm. like, "Okay, what's my game plan going. to be here? I have to stop Jonathan.

Taylor. No question. Number one. priority. Okay, I'll stop Jonathan. Taylor. Then they're going to run these. play-action schemes. They have Tyler. Warren who's just wide open all the time. because of some of these schemes. Okay, so I got to stop Jonathan Taylor. Now I. have to stop Tyler Warren. Okay, well. Danny Dimes is also firing balls into. Alec Pierce. He's got Pittman. He can do. all these different things. Then they. open up the screen game. The offensive. line is blocking at an unbelievable. level. I'm sure AQ's talked about it. already. They are just opening.

everything up for this team in the run. game and the pass game. Danny Dimes is. not taking sacks. He's not even phased. by pressure in his face. He's delivering. efficient throws when he has to and also. crazy clutch tough throws when he has. to. This this offense, I said it many times. this week, this offense has no. weaknesses. It is truly, truly. impressive to watch. Yeah. J. LOVE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. SO, THE AFC South is obviously the.

Indianapolis Colts. He's the entire AFC. might be for the foreseeable future. But. whatever you learn about this team, you. know, we're going to have to pay Danny. Dimes and hopefully Danny Dimes. understands that he wants to be here as. well. You know, and hopefully that is. how he feels. I assume he's enjoying his. time here. I know the city loves him. I. know there was potentially a gathering. this past weekend Okay. >> between maybe Pacers and Colts players. and maybe Danny Dimes was having beers. with the boys. which we like. We like to see that. We.

like to hear those types of things and. it's like all the pillars that you're. talking about all in. It feels like the. vibes of this team just vastly. different. What do you think for the. first Talking to them Go ahead. Talking. to them during the week, that was a a. major theme. So, like these guys the. offense gets together on Monday nights. and watches Monday night football. together. All the position groups do. their Thursday night dinners which a lot. of teams do. But you could just tell like this team. likes each other. They hang out a lot. They find time to get together. Danny.

made a great comment about it's a little. easier to get together in Indianapolis. than it is in New York City. But he just talked about Tyler Warren. came in and he's a guy's guy. He just. wants to be part of the hang. He wants. to be there and be around the guys. And. Porous Buckner was telling us about the. Thursday night dinners and how. attendance has been 100% this year, whereas in the past it has not always. been that way. The organization top down, you can just. tell everybody's LOVING IT. OH.

LOVE TO HEAR AND STOP playing a lot of. us. Very. And stop playing a lot of us. Especially when you look that that. stinky. What did you think about those. Charger jerseys? You know I always got. to ask you your thoughts on jerseys. What. What did it look like boots on the. ground? All right. All right, let me break this. down for you. So. in the stadium, the end zone the. branding around the stadium, unbelievable. We all know the Chargers. have 10 out of 10 some of the best. uniforms in sports history. These are not it. Yeah.

Yeah. Uh these these were not it. Um we. made the Savannah Bananas reference. There's it's just. there's it's off. There's too much. yellow. They have so many great. uniforms, so many great colors. That. Charger power sign in the background, awesome. Mhm. The uniforms, unfortunately, were not it. Uh I guess. tomorrow night they're debuting a. throwback on you? >> Yeah, like the filthy old school dark. blue like bolts on the shoulder. LaDainian Tomlinson and all the. highlights you see of him. They're.

wearing those tomorrow night. >> That's the equipment staff and the. Chargers That's the equipment staff and. the Chargers saying the blue light from. Men in Black. We got our fastball, dude. Don't worry. about the minion [ __ ] Okay, don't don't. worry about all that. And we lost in. this entire thing. Oh yeah. Look at. that. We still got But but us as fans. think you guys got this in the chamber. What the hell are we looking at these. yellow things for? Like we have we hold. the Chargers I think in such high regard. when it comes to all these things. When. they roll that [ __ ] out there, especially as a Colts fan it was like I.

was kind of looking forward to what you. guys were Yeah. And you guys do that. Can't have this. We were in the. facility. Remember they had all the. mannequins dressed up. All the different. units, different everything. Fire. Fire. Fire. Fire. All and they're proud of it. They take a lot of pride in that as they. should. So them rolling that. >> even white pants like if they just went. white pants, you just got to break it. up. You can't go full mustard bottle, you know. Let's go to hammer. Dot. Dot. What you say, Tone? Yeah, I just. want to get ahead of this right now. Sunday night's going to be an absolute. disaster class as far as uniforms are.

concerned. Steelers are going with a. throwback with like brown tanish. uniforms with a yellow helmet against. the Green Bay Packers and their yellow. helmet. What? >> Sunday night's going to be horrendous. I. just want to get ahead of this now. I. know, trust me, I know. Yo, Packers. Steelers, why not have two of the most. iconic uniforms ever on Sunday night. football? Nope, we're going to go with. the worst uniforms of all time. See you. Sunday night. >> Okay, well, you know, the Packers hadn't. won since 1970. in Pittsburgh against the Steelers.

That's us. What are we doing here? This. is what we're putting out there. WHY WHY. ARE THE PITTSBURGH Steelers doing that? And then there's a chance that the. Packers go out there looking like this. Yes, blood ball game for the Packers. They're going to wear the old leather. helmets. I think they have like the. brown leatherish tint helmets that they. might be going out there maybe with the. Acme Packers uniforms, but that just you. know what, that that's the way Sunday. night football should be. >> It's a good look. I guess most people. are watching let's put our worst. uniforms out there. But nonetheless, Packers Steelers big deal. Also Bears. Ravens this weekend. You have that.

particular game. Ravens got rid of. cornhole, ping pong. Uh they got rid of. all Video games. >> Allegedly via report, they got rid of. all fun. Jacuzzi. All team chemistry. building things, get them out of here. A. lot of distractions in the building. Allegedly, this is a report. We do not. know how much of it is exactly real. I. will say this as a person that was on a. team that Chuck Pagano was the head. coach of and he was from Baltimore and. we bring big number 90 Corey Redding. over from Baltimore. They tried to turn.

our locker room into more of a Baltimore. style locker room. That's where I was. introduced to cornhole. So the Baltimore. cornhole. thing with the Ravens I think is a big. deal. I think it has been for a long. time. Actually. >> You had never heard of cornhole? No, but. on that note I never lost either once I. learned about the game. So okay, just I. don't know if that was good for the. Midwest that I learned this game in the. locker room cuz you guys got a lot of. meetings. I don't. Okay. Yeah, you got a. lot of time. A lot of time. >> Yeah, and once you get that little pizza. toss, you know, that little turn that.

son of a [ __ ] sideways, you can really. start gauging that thing. And then once. you start playing a little defense and. then we're running this thing. Oh, I got. a climber or two on this. You want me to. go ahead and layer a bird this thing? We. could do that as well. I got real good, too good some would say. And I didn't. want everybody to know that cuz maybe. they take the cornhole boards out of our. locker room. But the Ravens are at the. point where they're taking [ __ ] out of. the locker room. Okay, that's not good. That's never good. This is players only. meeting stage of things happening over. there. And then on the other side, the. Bears, are they a real team? Good better. best never let it rest till your good is. better and your better is best.

Afterwards they're going crazy. What are. your thoughts on the game you're about. to call right now? Yeah, I mean I think we're all waiting. It should be happening right now the. Ravens practice to see if Lamar is out. there. I mean before the bye week, it. sounded very confident that he would be. back out there for this game. Now you. hear the press conferences at the. beginning of this week, it does not. sound nearly as confident. So we're all. kind of waiting to see what practice. looks like today if he's out there. because that's I mean, we all know we've. seen what that product has looked like. the last few weeks without him out. there. He's former two-time MVP for a.

reason. Like they need him back out. there badly. And on the other side, the. Bears four-game winning streak. They're. starting to look like what you would. imagine Ben Johnson's vision is for this. team. They're running the ball really. well. Their offensive line is playing. together. The running backs are seeing. it, hitting the holes. Dennis Allen has. that defense humming. They have. turnovers on turnovers on turnovers. T.J. Edwards comes back, plays really. well. Um honestly, if if they even continue to. elevate Caleb's game to another level,

there are much more things that can be. unlocked for this team. So you look at. it as a four-game win streak and you. think to yourself, wow, they're playing. really well. Then you turn on the tape. and you're like, these guys could be. playing even better than they're playing. right now. Sound football though is what. you're talking about whenever you say. like Ben Johnson like tough sound. football is what you're seeing from. film? I think there's a lot of run game. He's. really implementing that run game kind. of that Detroit like do what take. advantage of what you know you can. control well. I mean they have some. really condensed formations. They run a.

lot of shifts and motions. They have I. believe it's the number one most. explosive plays in the NFL. The guy just. really knows how to scheme and you can. tell that the players are picking up on. what he wants them to do. And as you saw. by the locker room after the game, they're also buying in from an emotional. standpoint. >> How about him the Mike of their scoring. a touchdown four times stop everything. He he doesn't even Psycho. >> He's awesome. He is a psycho. He's a. psycho. Yeah. That That is exactly what. he is. And I don't think we knew that. I.

mean obviously we knew he was very good. He was the bell of the ball. We did not. know he was a full football psycho. No. Had no idea. >> Yeah, we had no clue. His what him. walking into the Bears thing. Exactly. Us watching that now with what we know. Yes. Okay, cuz we see his offense. gimmicks, people running all over the. place. This guy might be fun. This guy. This guy must be a good time. Now what. we know about him looking back on his. first speech to the entire building, Jesus, he hated everything about Yeah. Yeah, he hated every single thing about. that and we'd like to let Ben know you. might be the perfect guy for Chicago, brother. And I think if you continue to.

win, they're going to love everything. about it. They don't need you to be. doing all the [ __ ] Okay, we just. want to win football games for the first. time long time. And if Caleb's bought. in, there's a chance here we got. something special brewing in the midway. Good for them. Thankful for them. And. the NFC North now is in Uh-oh. Uh-oh, Ty. Uh-oh. Best division in football. It. might be the best division in football, but now it also makes more sense looking. back on maybe like his relationship with. Dan Campbell and why it worked. Like Dan. Campbell was like This guy's a [ __ ]. psycho, man. I got to stay away from. him. Like you know, he's not a big tough.

guy like me, but I'm not [ __ ] with. this guy. >> Serial killer Rodgers. >> killer guy. I I respect this guy, man. He can do whatever he wants to do. >> Yeah, you can see they get along. The. ownership in Chicago, interesting, you. know, cuz they haven't had that I think. for a long time. And him doing it, it's. great. I can't wait to see you on the. call, J.J. You've been doing great work. in the booth, brother. We're not just. [ __ ] We're not just the funny. photos in the Ash. J.J., you've been. doing a great call great job calling. games. We appreciate you. Go ahead, A.J. Yeah, J.J., you were mentioning the. explosive offense that the Chicago has a.

you know, a pivot to an offense that. isn't been as explosive, the New York. football Jets. I don't know if you saw. Woody Johnson, their owner, had some. comments. He was trying to defend the. head coach Aaron Glenn. I don't know, you may some people may say you kind of. threw his QB under the bus even though. he may not have been lying when it comes. to stats and in performance, I guess. But how would you handle that? How do. you think that goes in the locker room, I guess? Yeah, that was. that was interesting just because we all. have eyes. We know what's kind of been. happening up there. We know it hasn't. been great. But for an owner to just.

pretty much explicitly say that the. quarterback has been bad. in the way that he did. It was That's. not something you see very often. And. Justin Fields, whether been playing. great or not, like he is very well liked. in the locker rooms he's been in. The. players like him. So it's When when your owner says. something like that, it definitely. is discussed. I mean, it's definitely. something that people see and you just. around the league people see that oh.

wow, that's they. even though whether he's benched, whether he's not benched, who knows what. that situation is. That is that is. something that I don't I can't quite. remember an owner saying something like. that in the middle of the season while. the guy's under contract, can you? No. No, I mean Woody does a A of Woody. stuff, you know. It's pretty cool just. to hear. I mean, our coach is good. Yeah, the guy. 20 million a year I paid sucks a. quarterback. So, might be a Bill O'Brien. situation. >> Antoine Staley, oh yeah, that's a my. middle fights coach. Antoine Staley, New. York Daily News reporter says Aaron.

Glenn, when he was asked about the. quarterback situation, we will have a. quarterback. They will line somebody up. >> Good. Okay. That's good That's good for the. sport. >> Good move. That That's good for the. team. I I think that's good. You kind of. have to have somebody there at some. point, even if it's the punter, you. know, cuz punter lines up against. technically in the quarterback position. every once in a while. And Aaron Glenn's. letting you know, we will take the field. Love that. with a QB. Aaron Glenn's trying to change You talk. about Ben Johnson. Obviously, they both. come from Detroit where, if you think. about Aaron and Ben, oh my god, and then.

MCDC, think about everybody thinking the. same exact way about everything. Now you. get dropped into a new building and they. don't think like that at all. And it's. like, you got to do not just the team, not just the locker room. That's an. entire culture shift you got to do to a. building. Ben being able to do it as. quick as he's been able to do in. Chicago, and then what Aaron's going. through in New York. Do you think there. is success on the other side with Aaron. Glenn? It's really hard to say, man. I mean, I. I having been there, we did their first. game of the year, we saw them in the. preseason. I mean, we said he says all.

the right things, the building seems to. buy in. He wants it to be football. first. He doesn't want it to be the. fluff, the media, anything outside the. building. He wants it to be pure. football first. Um, they've had a really, really tough. go of it here. There's no question about. it. And yes, the quarterback play hasn't. been great. Um, some of those first half end of the. half situations have been pretty wild. I. mean, you have Garrett Wilson kind of. questioning your own decisions on your. team. Like, so those that's where you start to see. some cracks where you're like, oh, hang. on a second here. Like, there's there's.

doing everything the right way and. making sure we're doing it. And then. when it comes time to implement it in. actual game situations, if it doesn't go. the right way and you see players, captains, leaders start to question it. I've been in those before. We've all. been in those meetings where coaches go. over those situational situations where. it's like, hey, at this point in the. game, this is what we're going to do. This is how we're using our timeouts, and this is how we attack it. And then. all of a sudden you get in that. situation and they don't do it. And. you're like, wait a second. Why do we. have that 45-MINUTE MEETING? >> THE GUY CAN'T THROW. WE'RE TRYING TO GET.

TO HALFTIME, OKAY? That's That's See, so. you got Garrett Wilson throwing. everybody under the bus whenever he sent. out, I didn't know what the plan was. Then once I found out what the plan was, I I was bummed out about it. I was. bummed out that was the plan. Then you got the owner coming out. saying, coach isn't the problem. You guys are. looking at the wrong guy. The quarterback sucks. I mean, that's That's the Jets team. That's like the most It's a tough place. to play, man, because it's just there's. a billion eyeballs on you at all times. The pressure's so high. You have to win. immediately right now, otherwise.

everybody gets pissed. You don't have. time to develop or build that culture. So, I I have sympathy for that, but it's it's certainly been tough. I. also know if you win there, you're top. of the world. So, Parades forever. >> Somebody's going to figure it out at. some point. You know what I'm saying? >> hope there's more of this. We hope. there's more of this over there for. Aaron. Cuz. that Jets job has sucked a lot of. happiness out of humans and a lot of. emotion and a lot of soul out of people. We hope that doesn't happen to Aaron. Glenn. Good luck over there, AG. Yep. Good luck. Calvin Shephard's having a. good old time in Detroit right now. Now.

he's running up and down the sideline. yelling, "Hoorah! Hoorah!" and Aaron. Glenn's over there like, "Yeah, you're. my owner won't and the quarterback and. the wide receiver, jeez." Yeah, we have. a quarterback. >> Yeah, we will play with a quarterback. Thank you. >> That's a different world, but hey, you're the head coach now. Now, let's. talk about another pressure pot. position, being a Philadelphia Eagles. player, just in general. Now, this. Eagles team obviously has a lot of. drama, but maybe. they got a. maybe a leader coming back. Go ahead, Con man. >> Yeah, Chase Brandon Graham coming out of. retirement and rejoining the Eagles.

Last year, he was the one in the media. actually that accidentally said. something about Jalen Hurts and AJ. Brown. So, maybe there's a chance he's. coming back in there to maybe, you know, heal the locker room and get them back. on track. What do you think about this. move and now that you are, you know, this far away from retire or from coming. back and all that [ __ ] after the first. couple years you were done, can you tell. us what the closest time your closest. team you were to coming back if there is. any at all?

Yeah, I think this is great. I'm very. much looking forward to seeing it. I'm. happy for him. I mean, I know exactly. how it feels to be out and watching and. like having that itch. So, I'm really looking forward to seeing. him play and him getting that experience. and. just There There is literally nothing. like playing NFL football, man. It is. the coolest, best job in the world. And. no matter what you try and do in the. real world, you can never replicate that. locker room, that adrenaline, that. feeling of that competition. There is.

nothing better. So, I'm happy for him. I. can't wait to see how he does. I do. think that they're, you know, the Eagles are like, it's crazy. Like, you see them start out the year so well. and then you see them go through all. this stuff in the media and everything. and they're still a very good football. team. Like, we can pick them apart and. everything, but like they're still a. very good team. So, maybe he's bringing. it together and is the ultimate glue. guy. Um, but I'm just happy for him. And then. from my standpoint, I mean, there it was. never actually legitimately close. The. two teams I was watching always were the.

Texans and the Steelers. Um, because it would have to have a. real, true, significant meaning for me. to have come back. And it just never. came to fruition. Both those situations. needed you and you chose not to do it. I. think. If I If I recall. Both those teams did need a possible. pass rusher named JJ Watt. I think cuz. we got real excited every time one of. those situations popped up. Hated that. somebody got hurt. Didn't like it. Actually, we thought there was going to. be no injuries this entire season. Turns. out we were wrong. That You're going to. be wrong whenever you're on Daily Sports.

Talk, whatever the case. But we thought. maybe you were going to go back to the. Steelers. I mean, it was. it was like storybook [ __ ] was. happening. TJ and JJ getting introduced. last as they're coming out onto Acrisure. Field. I mean, doing the entire thing, doing all of it. I mean, that was like a. potential possibility there we thought. with the way the roster was kind of. constructed. And then the Texans same. thing. I think you were in the building, too. You're in the building. You're in. the building. So, you, I think, mentally. didn't want to deal with the Monday. after the game. I think I've heard you. talk about that. >> Uh, yeah. Yeah. And I was very conscious.

of like the retire-unretire thing for. me. Like, when I made the decision to. retire, I took a lot of time to think. about it because I knew that I was most. likely going to be a retire once and be. done guy. So, I didn't take that. decision very lightly and I knew that it. would take something unbelievable to get. me. out of it. And that situation never. arose. I was always ready. I I. truly believe for 2 years I was fully. ready. At the end of 2 years I could. have still gone back out there and. played.

Now, this is probably the first year. where I would be like, you got to give. me a legit three three months to get. ready if I need to get ready now. >> Okay, so you finally stopped training. like an [ __ ] Is that Is that what. you're saying? Um, a little bit, yeah. I mean, I still. train like an [ __ ] I still train. like an idiot. Um, but I'm definitely. taking a an off day here and an off day. there a little bit more often. Yeah, I. remember when we were talking your first. year of retirement and it was like, what. are you doing, dude? This is not what it's supposed to be. No, no, I just I need to be able to walk. in every room and beat up everybody that.

I walk into. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I. remember that whole line. And we thought. you were a psycho. We're happy you're at. the point where maybe you sleep in for a. day or maybe take a day off, let the. body recover. And we're also excited and. thankful that you. you did a retirement and then you said, you know what? I did my [ __ ] and now. we're just awaiting on the Hall of Fame. Cuz if you were to go back, that delays. the Hall of Fame. >> Yeah, exactly. That delays the Hall of. Fame another 5 years. BG John Clark of. NBC Sports over there in Philly is. reporting that it's his understanding. that Brandon Graham has been working out. regularly over the last month or more to. get ready for a possible return. With an.

original plan of possibly returning for. the Green Bay game after the bye week, it looks like it's been sped up. I'm. told he's been ready and is in great. shape. Okay. Bruce Brown shaking his head. He thinks. there's a little conspiracy cooking up. back there, it feels like. That's New. York Giants fan Bruce Brown. Yeah, I. haven't dug into how it works with the. dead cap and the salary cap and all. that, but I just know that Howie. Roseman's pulling some [ __ ] here. This was planned all along, all. off-season to have him just show up. after the bye. But, you know, Jackson. Dart beats him and they got to speed it. up. Oh.

That is That is potentially That is. potentially the case. Let's get back to a team that obviously. you know a lot about and you said you. would have went and played there if that. was the case. We are going to stay away. from questions about the Houston Texans. cuz of what I did early, but AQ Shipley. actually has a very good question about. the dynamics potentially behind closed. doors down there. Yeah, the Texans. defense is playing at a high level. Obviously, we saw that the other night. with four takeaways. Is there ever a. worry or a concern that there's some. division between offense and defense in. that locker room?

Uh, I don't think there is in this. locker room. I do think that that there are teams. where that's that's certainly been a. part of. I think with this team, there's almost. it just seems like on the offensive side. it might be more like not. not. 100% sure of exactly who they are, what. they're trying to be, or what they're. able to accomplish. CJ was just under. fire this past game. I mean, every. single time there's guys coming right up. the middle, he's running out, he's. running all around. Obviously, he had.

the one where he ran back in the. safety-no-safety situation. But, the offense just hasn't found their. legs. And whether that's Joe Mixon not. being out there and not being able to. establish what they want, whether it's. Nick Cayley. not quite running things the way that. everybody envisioned because like we've. talked about before, this off-season. everybody was crazy excited about this. offense. They were really excited about. the install and about what they would be. able to do and it just hasn't happened. Whether it's Laremy Tunsil being traded. away,

there's just all sorts of questions and. not a lot of answers. And I know it's. very frustrating because people down. here in Houston especially remember. that rookie year for CJ and had big, big. visions of what that was going to. become, and switching offensive. coordinators was supposed to be the. thing that springboarded this team into. the next stratosphere of legit Super. Bowl contender with that defense they. have, and it just has not happened. Yeah, I I it was tough to watch. I I. don't like what's been going on with the. Texans, even though obviously it's the.

Colts division now, but I don't like cuz. we were big fans of CJ and everything. they were growing. We love Demeco, obviously. Caserio's been very good to. us. Obviously, the Houston fan base is. fantastic. So, we thought this was the. time where the Texans were about to be. great for a long haul. For whatever. reason, they haven't been able to do it. We have some updates on some news that. we have discussed here, especially for. the game. >> Okay. that you were going to be calling. Adam Schefter's reporting that Lamar. Jackson is practicing today. Ravens. quarterback Lamar Jackson is practicing. And we also have uh from source.

says within the building, uh the report that the. it was the coaches that or the coaches. pulled out the toys from the locker room. is false. Okay. >> Okay. That's huge. I was not looking. forward to asking that question in a. production meeting. So, I'm glad that we. already take care of that. It's that. never fun. Did the players do it? >> Yeah, were they removed, too? So, the. wording is we just copy we got a text. from the building. Okay, it says report. it to report it to was coaches that.

pulled out the toys from the locker room. is false. So, I don't know what the hell. if that was the actual sentence. >> Well, that there that whole article, I. don't know if that was the same article. or a different one, but there was like. an article that came out that said like. we talked to 25 players in or 25 people. inside the Ravens organization during. the bye week, and this is what we came. up with. That's there's a lot of things there. First of all, 25 people in the. organization singing like a bird is. pretty crazy. >> Not good. I don't know. That's never. good. Second, you never know what kind. of agendas are going on here, cuz I.

think part of the report was like, we. blame the offense more than we blame the. defense, and there's all sorts of So, there's there's a lot to digest here. Now, with that being reported false, which you never know with those types of. things. Sometimes they're like, we took. it out for cleaning. Uh you know. There's uh We forgot to put it back in. This is This is the type of stuff that. comes out when you're an expected Super. Bowl contender, and then you end up. sitting there one and five. >> Well, and like if it wasn't the coaches, and the players did it, that changes it, right? If if the players made the. decision to to do something like that,

or is that the same. >> Anybody making the decisions is terrible. news. I mean, if we feel like we got to. get cornhole boards out of the locker. room, that's not good. Cuz there is. somebody in there that loves those. cornhole boards, and they're now pissed, and then they're getting their group. together that's like, hey man, that. guy's an [ __ ] Yeah, it's what? He. thinks that's why we're losing, well, maybe he should cover somebody a little. tighter on man-to-man. Let alone the. politics of who's voting to keep what in. there, but also, this is where people. gather. Yeah. You know, there is [ __ ]. talk happening in these moments. There. is let alone me, punter kicker, whenever.

there everybody else is studying film, and I I've I've really I've gone through. every rep. You know, I I I have an I I. I got some time here to do. Let alone. that whole aspect of it. But these. things these these little places in the. locker room or in the building, this is. where people gather. You know, this is. camaraderie. This is where people become. humans. Ping pong table, even if you're. not a ping pong player, there's couple. people playing, you'll stop by for 30. seconds, 45 seconds, have a little. moment, keep it moving. Even maybe. potential gather entire team. It's like. these are just little moments to provide.

moments. Mini hoop? Yeah, mini hoop is. huge out there. Time to compete. together. You get to compete like it's. just more. It's great, I think. It's. yeah, it's that thing where everybody's. always like, you need to be locked in on. football. It's like, okay, I I you do. not watch film or study your playbook. for 24 hours a day. When you're in the. building, not every single moment is in. the meeting room. There are times where. you are resting and relaxing in between. That's some of the best memories are. those where you got guys. dropping 20 bucks on who can make it.

into the garbage basket with their tape. after they take it off. Yeah, 20 bucks. Those are the It's awesome. Yeah. I I. kept it low. I don't know what the. threshold is for. whatever it's supposed to be. Yeah, yeah, whatever it's supposed to be. >> yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. M&M's, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's what they I've lost a. lot of I've lost a lot of push-ups in my. day. Yeah, didn't expect somebody to make the. Gatorade bottle shot that they certainly. made right there. Lost lost about 600. M&M's on that particular shot. We got another message. It was the. veteran leaders that wanted all of the.

games out there. So, it is out? Yes. So, it is out. Oh, boy. So, the message was. that the veteran leaders saw what was. going on, and there was too much. Do you think the young players were. abusing it or something? Like, how's. that work? I wonder. Too much jocularity. going on. Guys coming late to meetings. Yeah, trying to play Fortnite all day in. the locker room. It's like, hey, why. don't why don't we, you know, look at a. coverage or something? >> Yeah, why don't we watch the film? Why. don't we uh. Man, that's tough, cuz now you got. leaders, and then now you got a little. segregation in the locker room now. And.

I saw a pretty nice. >> saying, well, I don't agree with the. leaders, and then you're undermining. leaders. Yeah, yeah, it's they're Lot of. vets on that team, too. It's not like. you you have obviously young players. that play, but. >> Pagano might have been cooking everybody. on the ping pong table. Was he cooking. them? There isn't Hey, they call him. ping pong Pagano, actually, because of. his ability to And then they go out and. dominate this week, and then every team. is just firing ping pong tables out of. the locker room. Everybody get out of. here. Seal it up. Do the Dolphins have a. ping pong table? I don't know. Not.

enough of those to get out of the locker. room, brother. I don't know if that's. going to help them. They uh. STINK AT football down there in Miami. We don't love that. What are your what. are your thoughts on that situation? Go. ahead, Ty. >> Yeah, I mean, now that you brought it. up, Jage, and you know, you're thinking. about retirement, man, wouldn't that be. a great place to go back for you this. year? Maybe come in, save the Dolphins. season. Uh. listen, it's not great. It gets worse. every single week. They've said, hey, listen, we're not going to fire coach.

McDaniel anytime soon. It's not. imminent. Stephen Ross doesn't really. care, it seems like. And boy, he's going. up to the podium postgame and saying um. a lot, and that's really People have. kind of met their threshold with that, too. He's throwing people under the bus. He's throwing two under the bus. Just. kind of what's your what's your whole. view of this entire Dolphins situation? Uh this is this is far past ping pong. table territory. Um when you are doing. it as publicly as they're doing it, and.

and hiding it as little as they're. hiding it, uh it just makes you wonder what it's. like behind the closed doors. Because it's pretty wild how much stuff. they're saying publicly, and when you. sit there and watch it, and you just. think to yourself, you didn't have to say any of that. Like, Tua didn't have to say what he. said the other day. The coach doesn't. have to say what he says at the podium. Like, it it's. you can stand at that podium and give. coach speak and player speak answers. People do it all the time. And you can. handle stuff behind closed doors. So,

when it gets to the point where you are. discussing these types of things in. public, generally that means it has been. pretty bad behind the scenes for a. while. Uh and uh uh clearly it has to be. at that point there. I mean, we all saw. this team as a legitimate playoff team a. few years ago, and potential. for bigger, bigger things, and. unfortunately, it just seems to have. unraveled quickly. Yeah, I think it has. unraveled pretty quickly, and their fans. have certainly witnessed it all kind of. unravel in real time alongside Gumpy.

watching this team. Will anybody ever be. able to win in Miami? Why not? Because Wow. Have you been I mean, obviously you're JJ Watt, so I think you. probably live and move a little bit. differently than than some people, but. whenever you talk about a football team. and the sum of its parts and everything. that is available in Miami, I I think. it's I think it's a tough I think it's. going to be a tough place to win. Since. '72? I mean. That's true, before the. merger. >> Yeah, you're right. 1972.

I didn't even think about. >> could say that about like LA. LA's got a. lot going on. No, it does not. I don't. think so, actually. I think that's a. little different story like Miami. Florida and Cali just never sleeps. Miami never sleeps. Lot of. opportunities. Lot of opportunities. And. lot of places you think are nightclubs, they're not nightclubs. They're actually. adult ballets. And then you walk in. there, they're also serving you steak, and they're telling you you can be here. till 7:30 a.m., and guys are like, well, I don't got a meeting till 8:00 a.m. So, why don't I down in Miami. I I don't. know, and I know the Miami Heat have. been able to win. Obviously, we've.

learned that Gilbert Gilbert Arenas just. gave a great quote to Neon, I believe, about what the lifestyle is of an NBA. player and everything like that. >> Feeling. a little too little. Oh, I got to see that. Lot of stories. Lot of stories coming in. It was a lot. He he he he he said a lot. I'm sure. there's a lot of people you. whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa Stop. But he's. just telling us we're learning from. outside looking in. I think Miami's. going to be tough to win. And then we go. back to what Tyreek Hill said after the. season last year. Tyreek was done with. this [ __ ] last year. And everybody like kind of buried Tyreek.

for it. And then now the season's. happening, and Tyreek's like, this is. what I was saying. This this place. sucks. It might be a reverse Dan. Campbell situation, too. I mean, obviously they never knew what he was. going to turn into, but like he was. their interim head coach a couple years. ago. Like he was in their building. They. could have I mean, if he gets that job, do things change, you know, and do they. stay the course a little bit more? But. they were like, this guy's a [ __ ]. [ __ ] Get him out of here, you know. I I don't know, man. Detroit and Dan. Campbell were the perfect marriage, perfect time and everything. Like, I.

don't know if it Maybe it does. Maybe, but I do think you have to have the. right. mentality and infrastructure for that to. happen. And we always have to remember. what happened in his first year. Like, you had to be able to weather that. storm. Uh and I I I just That was tough to see. I don't know if it it's the same. situation in Miami if he is able to do. that. >> You you mentioned Miami and the Miami. Heat in particular, but one of the first. things you think about when you think. about the Miami Heat is Pat Riley and. the Heat culture. And that's why even. being so opposite of what most NBA.

franchise, at least from the outside in, look, it's like, hey, I mean, [ __ ] ran. and out of town because of some damn. cookies, you know, what I mean? Like. that's Russ. We heard UD talk about him. every time he came on the show. So, that. type of structure obviously what's going. on with the Panthers. Obviously a very. different culture just in hockey in. general, but that style of leadership. from the top down, the coach Murray's, Zito, all those guys. So, you definitely. have to have the structure from the top. down and you look at coach. Once again, we're not in the building day in and day. out, but you hear a lot of people that.

have been around football for a long. time and they talk the way they talk. about Mike, you know, Mike McDaniel, they'll be like, "Hey, that's the. complete opposite of what you need, especially in a place like Miami." So, yeah, it's a lot of It's going to be. tough to win down there. >> He would have had to have won a lot. And. they were starting out good, but all. your [ __ ] that you do that they love. whenever you're winning, they hate. whenever you're not. Which brings us to. Russell Wilson. Greatest tweet he's ever sent. I mean, let's ride. Uh Mr. unlimited. You're talking about a guy that's given. us a lot of catchphrases. Okay, he's.

given us a lot to the internet. His. greatest work might be a tweet that just. had no context was just sent out there. saying, "Hey, you know who I'm talking. about." Okay? And I think this is. potentially Jackson Dart, Scat Boo, maybe even Daboll saying, "Hey, listen, you're We can't just be sitting here. letting this [ __ ] happen." Like I I. understand that you are like super good. guy all the time and high road all the. time. You're Russell Wilson, bro. Super. Bowl champ. Get the hell out of here. with this whole thing. Then you probably. got Jackson Dart push him a little bit. This guy's with Bounty, remember? And.

Scat BOO'S LIKE, "YEAH, [ __ ] THIS GUY.". YOU KNOW, THERE THERE'S PROBABLY A. LITTLE BIT OF a motivation happening and. Russell Wilson says, "Yeah, you know. what? Send it." First time we have seen. Russell Wilson do this legitimately. And. I want to let him know we love it, J.J. How do you feel about it? Yeah, I mean, I'm great with defending. yourself against a. just seemingly out of nowhere. unnecessary shot. Um so, yeah, nothing. wrong with it. I'm What I'm focused on. right here now is that's a weightlifting. glove type look on the right hand there.

Yeah. With the fingers cut off. I had. never seen that before. Me, neither. It's thicker. Dangerous. Yeah, it's. thicker, so. >> not I did not know that we were. operating in that wet bandits. Love. Yeah, that type of territory. That is. wet bandits, yeah. That's a very good. call, right? Yeah, that is good call. Yeah, because you need those fingertips. so that you have a control, but you. know, you need the thickness of the. weightlifter to kind of keep them warm. Now, granted, it is certainly going to. be different feel of the ball than what. you're used to because there's a layer. of warmth there in between. Maybe that.

was the reason why him and Sean Payton. really didn't get along. Sean Payton saw. the glove say, "This guy sucks.". We dude, we were just talking about like. when stuff gets public, how what it must. have been like behind closed doors. Like, I mean, this is a Your team's. doing great. They just won a big game. Like, they're. in. just a shot out of nowhere towards New. York City. Like, why Like, there had to be some stuff. going on behind the scenes for that to. still be in the back of the mind after. all that. I love Russell Wilson.

responding. Love. >> Hey Russ, if this is the new you, we're. happy about it. And J.J., if this is the new you with. the glasses and the hair, just know that. we love it, brother. Keep going. We. appreciate the hell out of you. Thank you. I appreciate the hell out of. you. What's behind you there? What do we. got behind you? There's a lot of stuff. like perfectly placed, it seems. Uh. that's just a cleats from the game I. played after my son's when my son was. born. Two sacks. Uh No big deal, color. >> Right after he was born, my wife Um this. is a book from. a family vacation, all of us. The ball.

my son got me a Father's Day gift. I. can't figure out the point FOR MY WIFE. UH. SO. YEAH, YOU DID IT FOUR TIMES. YOU GOT THE. wrong side four times. I didn't glove with it. >> Ladies and gentlemen, J.J. Watt. Hail to. J.J. Hail to J.J. You know, every once in a. while you put those glasses on, you kind. of lose your sense of direction. >> Yeah. Yeah. That is something on a. camera though whenever you're trying to. You'll see me just get like kind of. caught in the middle. I'm trying to go. up into the right. Is it that way? Well,

in me, it's actually up into the left. here, but on the camera, it's up into. the right. J.J. had quite a moment. there. Before we get out of here on ESPN, we. need to do some takeaways. Okay, from week seven of the NFL season. Age, this is some great segs, is it not? Great. Unbelievable segs we've been. having, yes. >> We have been having unbelievable segs. Have we not, Pat? Great segs, have we? Yeah, we've been doing a lot of segs. around here. >> Best segs in my life. I love good segs. Me, too. We we do love good segs. You're.

talking about segments. Correct. That's. not what it sounded like coming out of. your mouth. You need to know that, A.J. So, let's. talk about your Why'd Shump's do that to. you? I don't like it, but let's take. your big three takeaways coming out of. week seven of the NFL season from A.Q. Shipley. Let's start in San Francisco. Block. party in the Bay. >> Oh, it's a party. It's a party. It's a. party. Love that. Let's just talk about Kyle. Juszczyk and George Kittle being back on. the field together for the first time. since week one. And let me tell you,

Kyle Shanahan had all his toys back. Would you ever use a fullback to block a. five-technique defensive end? No. No, never, right? Let's send Kittle out. Juszczyk cut off the defensive end. Christian McCaffrey right up the middle. Damn. Big time play. Big time. from him. Yeah, he did it on third and. short there. That's pretty good. Pretty awesome, right? Let's take a look. at this one. Kyle Juszczyk here. Kyle. Juszczyk here on the left. Let's look at. George Kittle on the backside chasing. down the backside safety. Look at Trent. Williams. Juszczyk out in space. He got. all his toys. The operation was up and.

running. All the shifts, all the. motions, all the eye candy. Take a look. at Juszczyk again. Fake. No. Bring it. back. That's nasty. That's pretty sick. Now, he's able to run his full. operation. First time there for the San. Francisco 49ers. CMC got 63%. of the yardage for the San Francisco. 49ers, the most by any player of this. NFL season. That was a Hembo stat. They're special over there when they can. run the rock, obviously. And George. Kittle and Kyle Juszczyk helped that. There was a time in the offseason, I. think we This got brought up the other. day where they weren't going to bring.

back Juszczyk and then they get the deal. done. He's a vital piece of that entire. process. >> He's everything. That's the whole reason. why I brought this up. With him and. Kittle there, they can do everything. And sometimes it's opposite sides, sometimes it's together. But the fact is. by having them there, they're. interchangeable. They can do all the. shifts, all the motions, all the things. I mean, I remember a couple years back. you said, "If you want to know where. they're running the ball, you got to. follow Juszczyk." Juszczyk is literally. going to take it to him. That's why they. do the pump fake on the What's that. called? An orbit motion? I don't know if that's what it's And he. sold it with the tilt. Like, "Hey, I'm. going Yeah, well, you can kind of call. it that. Orbit would go behind the. quarterback. What's that one called?

It's really just a fake. Like, he's just. selling like he's going across. And if. you notice, can we run this back real. quick? Absolutely. >> goes When he goes like he's going across. the formation, watch what it does to the. linebackers. And that sets up the block. for Trent Williams. >> Leverage. Bingo. Now, Trent Williams has. leverage. That's easy block. Anytime you. snap the ball while a player's in. motion, it always mess with the defense. Because the conversation a couple weeks. ago like leverage. Everybody's trying to. get and win Start to boss over. Look, linebackers boss, boss, boss. Oh, no, bow. We got to bow actually. Bow means. like reduce. And then Trent will punch a.

guy in the face as well, which is always. good, A.J. You're off balance and then. he's going to punch you in the jaw. >> That's good. That's welcome to football, baby. What's your second takeaway coming. out of week seven of the NFL season? Money time, MICAH. OH. AND HERE'S WHY. He is the closer. Every. single time in the fourth quarter you. need a play, it's coming from him. They. were supposed to chip there. He. recognizes it, does the old Reggie White. hump move inside, gets the pressure. This is in the fourth quarter. Guess. what? Next Very next play. Let's get the. sack. Let's go up and around Jonah. Williams. Tough day, I know. I saw it. I.

watched it live. Yeah, that was big. Push-pull gets that. It's 20 to 20 right. now in the fourth quarter. They're. driving on the eight-yard line, need a. touchdown. They don't They get a field. goal and then Green Bay goes down, scores a touchdown. They win the game. >> What'd you say, A.J.? Slingshots. himself? Slingshot. Push-pull. Like A.Q. said in the last one. That was a great. dip and rip there. Punch him and then use his momentum and. throw yourself into the quarterback. This is why you paid him in Green Bay, right? I mean, this is literally the. reason. Yeah, yeah, that's it. I mean, after the the last sack, that's exactly. That's why you trade for and pay this.

guy. Because he he's single-handedly. winning the game. Like, I remember, you. know, and I was texting a little bit. with A.Q. and he just said like, "Yeah, once once he moved over to Jonah. Williams' side, like, it was blouses.". All right, let's go to the last takeaway. from A.Q. Shipley coming out of week. seven of the NFL season. Stafford still. spinning it. Yes, he is. This time in. London, A.Q. Shipley. Yeah, let's look. at this first one real quick. We are. going to get hit in the side of the. head. Let's just sidearm it to the back. of the end zone. Touchdown. Go to the next one real quick. You got a. fade to Davante Adams. Incredible what.

he's able to do here. Just one step, throw it perfect. Only he can CATCH WOW. MATTHEW STAFFORD GOT DRAFTED the same. year as me and A.Q. Shipley and Darius. J. Butler. He's in London at 9:30 a.m. spinning it all over the place. I'm. worried about maybe getting a hemorrhoid. while I'm pooping. That's the difference. in lives. That's the difference in. greatness. Matthew Stafford is elite, brother. And yeah, it was incredible. Hey, thank you for your takeaways, A.Q. We'll be back tomorrow as week eight of. the NFL season kicks off. You're the. greatest people on Earth. Goodbye.

I just had it You We had a We had like. 34 seconds here. I think you did a great. job adjusting. You could sense the. urgency. Mask on. Mask on. Mask on. Mask. on. And you kind of did your thing. I. like Waving the towel. Yes. Yeah, we. were coming in. You did a great job. there. Running straight off the field. Not trying to get in everybody's way cuz. you don't want to hit the kicker. You. want to get the hell out of the way. Don't go at an angle cuz they're coming. at an angle. >> That's situational football. Let's go. back. You You said bow is something. What is a bow? What is a bow call? What. is that? >> Like, if you boss, you're bossing, you're all like taking your stepping. strong. Okay, we're moving over strong. Or say say the safety comes down here.

We want to boss this way. Like, watch. Okay, boss, boss, boss. Nope, here we. go. No, actually we need to bow back to. where we were. Okay, so actually. >> But look, it does A.Q. said I'm sorry. again. Like, there's a lot of good. things on here, but it does it sets up. these guys' blocks. So, they just kind. of It takes those linebackers and. already gets them out-leveraged. Boom, you're setting up the blocks down the. field. Yeah, and we started seeing this. in the last few years of offense. coordinators designing plays to set up. blocks. And the Niners are the biggest. proponents of that. They use their. shifts and motions to set up plays down. the road. So, that right there, you.

think he's going across and then he runs. the the crack toss. And then later in. the game they're going to do that and. they're going to stop he's going to cut. the defensive end. Kittle's coming as. the second puller and they're running. two tight end counter. Then the next. time they're going to start like that. they're going to stop them and then send. them the other way. Like there's a. million and then there's a play action. off of it. There's so much they build. off of. >> And then AJ if you put the clip back up. there the boss S in the boss is that to. the run strength and the bow is to the. weak side strong weak. Okay. Usually. boss strong bow weak, yeah. Okay. So you. want to say hey boss boss boss bow bow.

bow and he he already tells you which. way you're going. Got you. Yeah and they. have strong bow obviously doesn't have. anything strong. That's strong side weak. side left side strong side. You guys. doing all that type of stuff and and all. Shanahan and you Shurmur doing is just. big braining the [ __ ] out of you. Just. puppeteering. Okay we need you all to shift this way. Thank you. It's going to be hard for us. to get you if you just stand there. Thank you. Let's go ahead and do this. and we got Christian McCaffrey he's more. explosive than all your guys. It's. amazing what this 9ers. >> work it though. So you got to work it. you got to be good at it cuz if not it.

looks like poop. If you're trying to run. all this pre-shift motion shift all and. then all of a sudden you're getting TFLs. every play. They're all cool nice why. don't we just line up and play buddy. like so yeah you have to be very very. good at it. >> The timing of it all you're saying very. well rehearsed. Oh they've ripped that a billion times. Like how many times have they ripped. everything? I would imagine walk. throughs practice everything. This is. why it's so good and you can ask BA when. he's here next week because most teams. around the league when they get to. Thursday when they get to Friday it's. mostly pass because it's a passing. league, right? Every single run period.

every single pass period doesn't matter. what period they're running in practice. they're getting eight out of 10 of them. as runs. And they're constantly working on it. That's why it looks so good. And that's. something that like we we do forget. right now with Miami. Like McDaniel. revolutionized the whole motion thing. when he started doing that sprint out. and maybe that only works for players. like Tyreek Hill and Jaylen Waddle but. that's another thing with those motions. that just completely changed the game. like you mentioned like setting up. blocks. Like it felt like Miami was. unbelievable about that for a while and.

you know it started in San Fran. >> They started blurring the lines with the. motions. Yeah. The Miami Dolphins offense started. blurring the lines and that's why there. was so much promise. So much. And so. much hope. And that's And so much. optimism. Oh. Oh man it's going to be. impossible to stop. It's also impossible. to learn as a quarterback. If Tua goes. down we are [ __ ] Oh yeah. Completely. >> And unfortunately. >> And if Tua ends up not playing well we. are Mhm. [ __ ] completely and our. culture boy it's splintering quickly and.

our quarter and our head coach just. Get me out of here. Yeah doesn't give a. [ __ ] What? He cares. Not anymore. He's. done. You don't think so? No. Side eye. and Quinn Ewers is it for you? You think. that was it when he was cold it was. raining it was 60 mile an hour winds. Quinn Ewers is playing the game. Okay. great. And he does ass and he jogs off. and he's he's side eyeing. You think that was the moment where. McDaniel said I'm done with this. That. was part of it. I think it might have. been after the game when he had the. presser and that person put out the.

super cut of him just saying um and um. and he I mean he knew what kind of. questions he was going to get asked and. he was just like [ __ ] it I'm just going. to go up there and say um and um a. bunch. I don't care anymore. >> That wasn't AI? We don't know. There's there's a chance. there were a couple you know doubles in. there. When I rewatched it there was a. couple double ups but it was still. accurate. >> Yeah good at it. I mean especially with. how similar they all sound. Exactly. It. was also a moment in the game where I. think Tua threw a pick and like the. offense is kind of like kind of you know.

Moseying off the field he's like [ __ ]. off the field. Yeah here's the clip. actually it's like a it's like a half a. second here after you got to wait for. it. Not yet. They'll show Tua first. after the pick obviously. Not good. It's 24-6 fourth quarter. things have not gone well the weather. stinks Tua is not get the [ __ ] off the. field. You're done. He is not happy. He is not. happy. So he's still invested. He cares. Yeah he does. How do those team meetings. go? AQ how do you think that like how do. you bring the juice as the coach for. team meetings? Um. It's really tough to. sit up there every single week and be.

like boys hey this week we just got to. be one and oh. This week one and oh. You know it's tough. It's really tough. I don't I mean I don't know especially. when you starting to lose all these. games especially when you lose a bunch. of games in a row you lose the locker. room and then you start to see what's. happening outside of the locker room in. the press conferences. It's it's tough. >> Then you got Kennywood. Yeah bad idea. Sure yeah. You see this? It's always a. good time. Oh I see the shirt did it. what is Kelsey's company investing in. the Kennywood or what? >> No Bruce Brown had it all wrong. Okay.

Bruce Brown said Yeah why would they. there's no way they're putting any money. in that place. Yeah man. Seems like. Travis Kelsey saving Kennyworld. Shut. the [ __ ] up Bruce. Okay it's Kennywood. Okay it's not. Kennyworld but Travis Kelsey I believe. is an investor in Six Flags and he's. looking to make it almost as good as. Kennywood, right? Is that kind of what. you read Bruce? >> Almost. Yeah that is correct. I believe. they purchased a 9% stake in Six Flags. and the stock was up 18% on the news. Uh yeah I believe his focus is on the. Cedar Point location to kind of restore.

to his childhood glory but I just. figured you know they would just you. know maybe acquire Kennyworld in in the. aftermath of the deal. and get that [ __ ] going uh you know as a. Six Flags It's a good idea. This. [ __ ] Good idea Bruce. Yeah now. this is very cute. I love that that's. being done. That's very cute. I love. that the Kelsey family is classic. Cleveland family. Okay I I like that. they are going to amusement park. I like. that they're doing a Six Flags. I like. that they're doing the entire thing. I. love that he's invested. I appreciate.

the fact that Travis knows what's good. for a community and what's not good for. a community. I appreciate that he's. trying to make things better and also be. a businessman going forward. With that. being said you saying Kennyworld as. natural as you've been saying it you. need to [ __ ] stop. Okay? That's a. great name actually. They should have potentially named it. that. We don't need everybody to know. that Kennywood's not the right name cuz. Kenny owned the woods and it's Kennywood. you know just like the Italians dropped. the final sound there. Just get rid of. the S for the woods and just keep it as.

Kennywood and just know that Travis. Kelsey. he might have invested in some other. amusement park dump that needs saving. Kennywood's just fine. Okay Kennywood's. just fine. We had that cinder block. underneath that one roller coaster, We. have that picture still. Yeah yeah. We. don't have that picture up anywhere we. can pop it up. That would really good. All you got to do is OSHA OSHA certified. no question. Definitely. It's a strong. cinder block it's from Pittsburgh. That. fucker's ready for it. That that thing. is built for it. Don't you worry about. any. Did you hear about the racers? No. I was I was on them this summer though. Oh buddy. >> Brave man. Should I have not been on?

You are brave you are brave man. Should. I have not been on? It's Kennywood. you're safe everywhere. Of course. This. ain't one of those hot places but yeah. they they put a cinder block underneath. one of the roller coasters somebody. found and took a picture it looked. certainly sketchy yeah. Certainly looked. like it was right around the bend but. they said don't you worry about it we. got the mechanical engineering all. figured out. These things will take care. of themselves. That thing's not feeling. any pressure and I went over to potato. patch and I [ __ ] believed them. Then. I went over to Noah's Ark I said wow. this thing's just same as it was. whenever I was growing up it's amazing. I rode the Jackrabbit and I took my. seven-year-old daughter with me and I. told her I said hey listen this first.

this first little dip we're going to go. down it's going to go up. We might lose you so just we're going to. hold on real tight. I mean I had her in. a full tilt headlock and I thought I was. going out too. You talking about the whoopty woo of the. Jackrabbit? Yeah boom boom. That's. that's the whole purpose of the THAT'S. THE WHOLE PURPOSE OF THE JACKRABBIT. You. hop hop you know? I do appreciate that. >> cool when I was 12. As a 39-year-old man holding a. seven-year-old daughter I thought we. were we were goners. See that's the. Kennywood difference. Also this was. fined. Okay this was fined. Oh Facebook. log out. Geez Bruce. Bruce. Bruce just.

got booted by Is that by Zuck? Just. kicked you out? Here it is. One Burgs post here. No way. What's. wrong with that? Really really sturdy. Well there's a lot of hills in. Pittsburgh. What the [ __ ] do you want. these guys to do? That's how we were taught to fix stuff. growing Exactly. What is that? You know. whenever you're at a restaurant and the. table's a little wobbly you obviously. put Splenda under one of the [ __ ]. corners. That's exactly what you do. That's what they did with a roller. coaster. >> Smart. One Burg knows. I appreciate it. Now I don't think they should have let. humans on the outside seat. No.

definitely not. That was their mistake. They obviously put up a board here and. nobody can see it anymore and we move. forward. And on that note Kennywood doesn't need. saving. No I told you. Has QB1 been to Kennywood. yet? He was at the Pens game last night. It's a hockey night in Pittsburgh. Obviously Keyshawn cut a great promo. with High Hertz out there with the boys. I assume Aaron Rodgers wanted to. experience Kennywood. I don't think you really go to. Pittsburgh and not do that. I don't. know. Hard to imagine that. What are you. talking about? The swings the best. swings in the entire country. I mean.

these things go [ __ ] way out there. They hit up Phantom Fright Nights after. the game last night. I talked to him. Okay so they went by fright fright. nights which is obviously a legendary. time to be at the Kennywood and which. could also be called Kennyworld because. the entire world of happiness kind of. resides right there. So. let's get to a break on the other side. we'll do another college football convo. with Stanford Steve. >> Oh yeah. Just reminding you that Kennywood is. getting more expensive and they're not. really adding many things but they need. you. Now more than ever. Bad.

JUST FOR MAINTENANCE. FREE PARKING AND. FOOD. NO. No no. Oh that's done? From what I've been told. It was an. expensive day. Okay. About like 15 bucks? >> As it should be. The whole day was. expensive. I think whenever you pay you. you don't really know how great it's. going to be. So you often wonder why. that's a lot of [ __ ] money per. person. What is this place? Is this. Disney World? Even better. It's Kennywood. Yeah if we're paying that much I want to. kick Kenny Kangaroo in the dick. Could. do that he's around. Yeah boom. Did you.

see him? Did you take a picture with. Kenny Kangaroo? >> I didn't. He's a little creepy looking. remember? He kind of looks like a tube. sock a little. Yeah he's got a little. bit of that in him. But there might be a. new Kenny Roo. Yeah you don't know. Cuz Kennywood brand. new. Be a friend tell a friend something nice. might change your life. We're back on. the other side with another football. convo with STANFORD STEVE. JACK YOU GOT ANYTHING TO SAY TO THE TEAM. HERE? OH, MAN, you guys keep crushing. and firing everybody up. It's bigger.

than you guys and if you guys are the. freaking best. Boom. Thank you, Jack. That's amazing. YES. GOD DAMN, I NEEDED. THAT ONE. [Music]. WHAT THE [ __ ] is this? >> We interrupt your regular programming. with breaking news. We have reports of a.

UAP approaching Indianapolis. >> They have messaged to officials they are. coming to take over the world. >> Government agencies have been alerted. that they plan to land and activate. Earth's Armageddon switch. This is. literally the scariest situation. imaginable. A true doomsday scenario. Please stay calm, seek shelter. immediately, and pray to whatever God or. higher power you believe in. What's. that? What? Landed here? I think. Indianapolis. What? So, that can't be.

We got to go find these [ __ ]. Yeah? That's what we need to do. I think it sounds like something that. you should tell Jack Carr, yeah. I don't know. We need to Let's go. Come. on. Let's go. How the hell let's go at it? Yeah, well. [Music]. [ __ ] these pieces of [ __ ].

[Music]. Oh, there it is. The [ __ ] It's. here. It's here. The button. Yeah, it. is. Oh. >> Hey. Do you have a rifle? No, I got something better. I got. something better. Jack. I've been saving this. What? Yeah, yeah, yeah. What is this thing? I asked for a. rifle. What is this? Yeah, it uh.

it it kills aliens. Yeah, I bought it. online. Deep web. That's certainly. convenient for us. All right. Here we. go. Hey. You be my spotter. Oh my god. It'd be my. honor. Let's go kill these. [ __ ]. >> this. Let's do this. Where are they? I. don't know. I think they're coming. Yeah, I think they might be coming from. right over here. Yeah, yeah, looks like. I see the [ __ ] ship. Let's go. They're not going to get to that button, Jack. >> Nope, they will not get to that button.

Is that one of them? Yeah. Black helmet, Carhartt khaki. He's walking right at you. GO AHEAD AND. PEP YOU UP. YEP, YEP, THAT'S IT, JACK. CARR. THAT'S IT, JACK CARR. YOU KILLED. THAT SON OF A [ __ ]. OH, THERE'S ANOTHER ONE. HE looks. exactly the same, a little taller, a. little bit more awkward. A little more awkward. Yeah, he's in the. same spot there. Go ahead and get him. Go ahead AND GET. YEAH, THERE IT IS. GOOD HIT, JACK CARR.

>> TWO DOWN. TWO DOWN. >> TWO DOWN, ALIENS. NO, NO, NO, NO, WATCH. OH, HE CAME down backwards. This one's. showing you his back. No respect. >> No respect. Kind of disrespectful alien. here as he drags his carcass around. Looks good. OH, BOTH THREE OF THEM. STACKED UP. JACK JACK CARR IS SLAYING. ALIENS.

OH, THERE'S one more. IT'S A BIG ONE. HE LOOKS LIKE AN EATER. HE IS AN EATER. OH, MAN. >> THIS MUST BE THEIR. SUPREME COMMANDER. Look at the size. HE'S LOOKING AT YOU, JACK. HE'S COMING. AT YOU, JACK. HE'S COMING AT US, JACK. GET HIS BIG ASS, JACK. BOOM. BOOM. LET'S GO. GOING TO TAKE THAT ARM FOR IT. GO TO [ __ ] OFF.

THAT'S IT, JACK CARR. GO BACK TO WHERE YOU CAME FROM, YOU SACK. OF [ __ ]. [Music]. HEY, don't worry, dude. That was awesome today. I mean, they. were going to [ __ ] come in here. I.

mean, they just popped up and then you. just shot them right in the [ __ ]. head. >> know. Good thing we saw that newscast. when we did. Well, that's the that's why they do the. live alert. I don't know. Did we know that but. that's still. >> I feel like that should have been. disclosed when we bought this place. They're legit. Let's go and talk to the. boys. >> Amazing. Let's do it. What a life you. live. Man, I'm just glad you had this. rifle and I had those binos. What are. the odds of that? I mean, I could see them. Good thing I. carry those with me everywhere I go. The. big one at the end really ate some. [ __ ] pain. Yeah, I feel like he.

stopped somewhere on the way in for a. snack. Yes, he did. Yes, he did. [Music]. Are we Are we good? What do you think, boys? [ __ ] Jack. Carr is here. [Applause]. [Applause].

If that's not enough reason to buy his. new book, I don't know what is. [ __ ] it, he just saved the Earth and nobody would. have known about it if it didn't just so. happen to happen right here with all. these cameras. Thank you, Jack Carr. Thank you, Jack. Carr. Thank you, Jack Carr. Thank you, Jack. Thanks, guys. Cry Havoc. Thanks, guys. Three-time world saver, Jack Carr, has. done it again. We're all mind-blown that a global. attack always seemingly happens when. Jack Carr comes to the Thunderdome. But,

boy, we're thankful he's always there to. save us all. On that note, Jack Carr's new book, Cry. Havoc, is available now. It's a. Vietnam-era thriller and the eighth. installment of the multiple time New. York Times best-selling series, Terminal. List. Hell yeah, Jack Carr. Hell yeah. What's my guy here named? Ben Guyman. What is your major? Psychology. Okay, your psychology made you that you're a. deep thinker, is that right? >> Yes, sir. Okay, is that going to help or. hurt you today, you think? Maybe hurt a.

little. Okay, well, I want to let you. know, psychology-wise, you should know. that there is a radiant energy of. positivity right to your left. Jelly. Roll will be here helping out. SO, JELLY. ROLL SAID, "PAT, I want to try to win. hundreds of thousands of dollars for a. charity in Athens. I WANT TO KICK A BALL. FOR a hundred thousand dollars to give. back to this community that is embracing. him as a part of it in Athens.". >> Got fixing to split the upright. OKAY, HOW MUCH WEIGHT have you lost now, Pat? >> I've lost 250 lb for this moment,

George. I'm fixing to do it. All right, BEN. THE KICK IS CURRENTLY a. hundred thousand dollars for you. If he. makes it, it'll go up to two hundred. fifty thousand dollars. We will also. donate a hundred thousand dollars to a. local charity. Jelly Roll. >> And I will match that hundred thousand. dollars. So, two hundred thousand. dollars to a local charity, Ben. Let's. go, Jelly Roll. LET'S GO, JELLY ROLL. LET'S GO, JELLY ROLL. OKAY. HERBIE WILL ALSO TOSS IN A HUNDRED. THOUSAND DOLLARS to charity, WHICH IS. VERY KIND OF HIM. THREE HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS FOR.

CHARITY. DOLLARS ON THE FIELD, COME ON. ALL RIGHT. I was worried for my toe. All right, what can I do different, Pat? I think. you could try to aim to the right if I. were you. Or, if you knew somebody that was a very. good kicker, I think now would be a. great time to just go ahead and say, "Hey, why don't you do that for me?". >> You know what? >> you raise some money for this city? I'll make another hundred thousand. We'll make it three hundred thousand to. local charity. Okay. If you'll let me. pick up THE LEGENDARY HOT ROD FROM.

GEORGIA BACK HERE, BABY. MY BOY, HOT ROD IS IN THE HOUSE TODAY. Hot Rod, great to see you. You look fantastic. Thank you for your service to the Colts. Can't wait to see you back in the NFL. Okay, so he'll put up HOW MUCH YOU PUT. UP? >> Two hundred thousand dollars for a. charity right here in Georgia, All. right, I'll put up two hundred thousand. as well. Kirk will put up two hundred. thousand. We got a six hundred thousand. dollar donation and Ben's kick will BE. WORTH FOUR HUNDRED THOUSAND. THIS COULD. BE A MILLION DOLLARS HERE. [Music]. THIRTY-THREE YARDS. HOT ROD, POTENTIALLY.

A MILLION ON THE LINE. LET'S GO, BABY. LET'S GO, BABY. Still got it. Still got it. Thank you. This is very expensive. BEN. BEN. [Applause]. BACK TO YOU, WILLIS.

BACK TO YOU, WILLIS. During commercial break, there was no. way we were going to be able to get out. of that lawn out there without giving. him another shot. Hundred thousand. bucks, he knocks it through. Pump for. Ben. Thankful for Hot Rod. Hey. Why? Let's. go. This show sticks and the fact that you. listen, we are very, very thankful for. That could be on the line with a. gorgeous assist. The all-time leading. tackler for the Green Bay Packers. YOU. PAY.

DAMN IT. TELL A FRIEND TO TELL A FRIEND. SOMETHING NICE, could change their life. [Applause]. [Music]. Hello, beautiful people and welcome back. to our humble abode, the Thunderdome, on. this Wat Wednesday, October 22nd, 2025. Hour three of the program begins right. now. Football! >> It's magical. That's AJ Hawk. The toxic. tables here at Boston Connor and that's. Ty Schmidt. Nine-year NFL vet Darius J.

Butler's here. 12-year NFL veteran and. Super Bowl champion AQ Shipley's here. God bless you. Bless you. God bless your. soul. It's allergies. No, I've been seeing up. Allergies. though. Allergies they come for. everybody. >> this morning. Yep. Yeah, see you next. >> Can I get a heads-up whenever it's time. to do that? I'm new to this entire. thing. >> miss days. I said you got to start it. and you got to ride that [ __ ] through. December. >> Yeah, but you know I'm not used to this. being my life. So maybe a reminder every. once in a while, especially on a day. like today where it sounds like it was.

pretty obvious and I got big-time. sneezes happening in the middle of hour. three. This is starting and it was. Stanford Steve. So I don't like anything. about any of this, bro. >> I get it. See, but personally I'm mine's. mine's more towards the sniffles. You. know, I'm not going to be sneezing from. the allergies. I'm just going to. Which is even worse. >> Exactly. Exactly. So if I if I sense. that tomorrow morning, boom, I'll text. >> at 5:30. Please. I'll let you know. >> Internet doctors actually told me that's. bad for your immune system. It weakens. it. Taking all that vitamin C and. medicine and. >> Really? Yeah, that's what I was No, herd. immunity is what you're talking about.

here, bud. Okay, but you're allowed to. add some PEDs to your herd if you want. like we've been seeing up over there. What do you You're telling me that. that's been a waste of my. >> relaying the message that was given to. me. Don't listen to that. He doesn't know. [ __ ] [ __ ]. >> Does anybody Does anybody about. anything? Yes, there's one man Two men, actually. that know about college. football and we get a chance to. chit-chat with them every single week. One of them is live from Hammer, Don. Don, an AP Town, who's a published.

college football author multiple time. And another is a man who's on the game. day set. He's also with SVP every single. night whenever they have a show. Four nights. Oh. When did they. uh. >> It's a good question. Steve's always on. the road. >> Steve's always on TV, always on the. road, and always keeping us updated on. what games we need to be paying. attention to coming into the weekend. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to another. college football convo with Stanford. Steve. >> Yeah. Steve, how you doing? Did you take your. allergy medicine? I guess it's that time. of year even though Ty's keeping that.

[ __ ] tight-lipped. I don't know if I'm on the same. medication as Ty. I don't know if I'm in. that tier. Uh but yeah, the the the. runny nose, dripping like a faucet, season is here for sure. >> Yes, it is and we will survive. Okay? We. will certainly get through it. But I've. been vitamin C-ing to try to combat. against this and then all of a sudden we. got a Yukon educated man coming over. here saying that ain't doing nothing for. you. That's actually hurting you. I. don't like that one bit. Just drink your. water and get your rest. Yeah, I. understand. Ice and steam. I I I I get. it. We will certainly figure that out,

okay? I will hammer the water. Let's. talk about this weekend. We have the. incredible opportunity to head down to. Nashville and celebrate this Vanderbilt. University. football program that has obviously come. through the ashes and now is a. powerhouse in college ball, not just in. the SEC. They're hosting Missouri. What. are your thoughts on this game and how. should we be viewing it before heading. down there? Uh fired up to go down to to Nashville. And after watching Vanderbilt for our. lives, they had never been favored over. an SEC ranked team until last week. And.

now this week they're again. So for. after never being a favorite two weeks. in a row, they're a favorite after that. impressive win over LSU. Obviously Pavi. is the story, the face of that team. He's fourth in the Heisman rankings down. around 10, 11 to 1. But you know, Missouri played their. first road game last week, looked a. little vulnerable. Didn't run it as well. as they have in their home games. Still. good against the run. Both these teams. are top 12 against the run. So to me. it's whoever shuts down each each.

other's run games. Pavi's is just been. insane on third downs and keeping his. offense on the field and that was in. full full vision last week against LSU. with him converting third downs, fourth. downs. They're over 56%. on third down, which is top two in the. country, I believe. So that's the story. to me is what the defenses bring to this. game and what should be a hotly. contested ranked match-up in Nashville. >> Tone, whenever Vandy LSU was on the. board, Nick Saban said, I know, okay,

that Vandy's good and they're favored. for the first time in 575 games or. whatever the case is. It is just hard. for me to wrap my mind around the fact. that LSU is going to lose to Vandy. That's literally what Saban said. Saban. said, I've just been around too long. I. am sorry. I have respect for their team, yada yada yada. I just can't see it. This team not only last year obviously. had a big-time run with the NIL transfer. portal. They got even better this. off-season. Feels like Vandy feels. great. Now they lose to Bama. Obviously. people are going to talk about that. But. another opportunity to prove that. they're for real, Tone, is that what.

you're thinking as well? Yeah, last week. with LSU, I disagreed with Coach Saban. That was strictly because LSU does not. have an offense at all and I was. favoring Vandy because Pavi is going to. score points. They're going to get. rushing yards. Steve talked about these. two teams like they both can stop the. run and they both can run the football. The difference here for me is is Pavi. over Purdy. It's not that Bo Purdy is. bad. Pavi is just him with a little bit. more moxie in my mind. And Mizzou is. definitely better than LSU in my mind.

cuz they can score points and LSU cannot. and the defense is really good. But I I. I think the difference in this game. Steve talked about being in the top five. in the Heisman race now is is Diego Pavi. and Tim Beck, the offensive coordinator. of Vandy. It's his second year here. He. came with Pavi. So second year for. everyone in this offense down here. So I. think they're going to continue to get. better on offense. But Pavi is the. difference for me. >> AJ, special story in Nashville, dude, these last couple years for this. Vanderbilt team. It changes everything. Literally, like they're talking about.

the projections and expected people that. are going to come through game day and. obviously there's multiple sites visited. and everything like that and there's. people in South Dakota State and that. are pissed off about us not going out. there and I just learned from the. internet that it was actually six years. ago this weekend that I had the. opportunity to be the guest picker out. there in South Dakota State. That place. was [ __ ] awesome. Go big, go blue, go. Jacks. But down there in Vandy, obviously anytime our show is mentioned. is something that people want, it's a. big deal. It's like, hey, this is. biggest game of the weekend. This is. conversation about your program. This is.

spotlight of everything you're doing. because of how the football team is. Last year could have been just a kind of. a, you know, a flash in the pan and said. they've continued to build on it. Great. for the university, AJ. I I think it's a. beautiful thing when sports can do this. for somebody or something. >> Oh, it's awesome. Yeah, their team is. awesome. I mean, it starts with Diego. We know that. It's unbelievable when you. think about the impact that one player. can have. And I understand like the. others there's there's studs all over. the place. But when your quarterback is. a guy that plays this well, but also has. that kind of personality, I think that. makes him very very easy to root for. It's It's ridiculous if you think about.

the money that he has brought into that. university just by being a great. football player and seemingly a great. person. Now, Vandy obviously good. school, everything like that. Pavi. alluded to that in his interview with. us. Like, hey, everybody thinks they're. like high academics, yada yada yada. He. said, we're a gritty group down here. We. are a gritty group. And their coach. seems to be the perfect fit for the guy. to be the head coach of this particular. team. Ty has a question for you, Steve, as we wrap up this particular game. >> Yes, Steve. Maybe this is out there and. I just haven't seen it. But why isn't. Clark Lea's name being mentioned for a.

lot of these like open jobs, you know, he's obviously got a past with Elko. He's the DC at Notre Dame. I think. people are finally starting to realize. like, oh wow, this this guy is actually. really good. I know he played at Vandy. But like why isn't he right up there, you know, being mentioned for like the. Florida job or the Penn State job or any. of these other big jobs that might open. up? Well, I think with the Penn State. job, Ty, they don't want to look at. another Vanderbilt head coach coming. Fair. Franklin came. And I think there's a little bad taste.

in their mouth right now there in Happy. Valley. But no, I I I agree with you. I just. think he's made it known how much he. loves his school. and what he's built there. I mean, people are going to bring back the old. press conference. I think it was from. '22 when he said the goal is to have the. best football program in the country. And I think there's just a there's a lot. of stability. There's a lot of. foundation he's built, you know, with. the stadium being redone. And and he's made it known that I mean, you look at what Signetti did and.

putting his boots on the ground and. getting, you know, extension after. extension. I think Clark Lea is more. than happy to take one of those to stay. at Vandy in a place that he loves so. much. >> about Dillingham out of Arizona State, too. You kind of think the same thing. Like this guy just loves the program, loves the area, loves everything about. it. So there is still some, you know, love of program, love of sport happening. in this massively business world. Because if, you know, some of these. schools come in with an offer, like, hey, $96 million was was just paid by Indiana.

to Signetti. So now there's a comp. Mhm. Like on what? >> Yeah. To not go to Penn State. What the. deal is, you know? So if some of these. places can't keep up with those big. checks, push comes to shove, love the place, love the school. Do you love them? 30, 40 million dollar difference? Do you Do. you How much do you you know? That's an. interesting dynamic for a lot of these. guys. And players, too, are having the. same exact situation at a smaller level. for the amount of money going different. places. It's a wild time. Now, we had. two undefeated SEC schools before this.

past weekend. Texas A&M now the only. undefeated SEC school. Ole Miss loses to Georgia. They got a. big one this weekend and so does. Oklahoma. Your thoughts on this. match-up, brother? Yeah, I know AQ talks. about leverage all the time, Pat, and we. got a playoff leverage situation here. This is looking like an elimination game. for Ole Miss and Oklahoma. Oklahoma's a. little bit favored. You see that four. and a half. But the probability of these. teams right now is below 50% to make the.

playoff. With a win, the numbers, the. math, the analytics, whatever you want. to call it, the stuff I can't. comprehend, says both teams get over a. 60% chance. Oklahoma's got a tougher. remaining schedule. But this is a. monster spot for Ole Miss, Lane Kiffin, you know, being that close last week and. then just getting a given to him in the. fourth quarter. You know, they only had. three possessions. I don't even think. they had a first down in like 13 yards. It didn't go well and you saw we talked.

about last week about you know, this. game the Georgia game against Ole Miss. and I talked about Georgia being more. having more depth amongst the line of. scrimmage. I felt like you saw that in. Ole Miss. You know, they weren't the same team in. the fourth quarter as they were. the first three quarters and on the. other side you got Oklahoma who had to. go to South Carolina get a much needed. win. Rattler looked a lot better. The. defense is as good as it gets in the. country. So this is a test of good. I. should say very good on very good. When. you talk about Ole Miss's offense.

against that Oklahoma defense. That's. that's that's the match up everybody. wants to see. It's a matter of what Ole. Miss defense looks like going on the. road and going against Rattler who got. things back on track after looking rusty. in that Red River game. >> Tony, your thoughts on this match up. here being a playoff decider basically. here going into week nine of the college. football season. >> Yeah, I I agree with Steve especially. for Oklahoma. They can't lose anymore. because their schedule is still so hard. going out. Ole Miss with two losses if. they if they lose this one their.

schedule's actually pretty easy going. down the stretch. So I think they still. may have a chance with two losses at the. end of the year depending on if it's an. SEC championship game or not. But I love. Oklahoma's defense and this is by far. the best defense that Ole Miss is going. to be playing so far this season. They. played LSU's defense but it was at home. They scored 24 points which was their. lowest total of the year. at that point. And. Oklahoma last week for the first time. all year ran the ball. They ran for 170.

yards. Ole Miss has the 100th ranked. rushing defense in the country. So with. Rattler and running game at Oklahoma. with that defense I I tend to lean. towards Oklahoma in this one. >> Let's look at the Oklahoma sooner. schedule just got pulled up here by. Bruce. They got Ole Miss and then they got. number number number number down the. stretch here. Tennessee, Alabama, Missouri and then LSU. Now a lot of. people are saying well. just because there's a number next to a. team does that mean they're actually. good or is there an SEC bias? That's a.

good point. >> cuz the Alabama stat that they won four. straight ranked games for the first time. in history. I saw everybody from outside. the SEC go ranked teams. Yeah, they're. ranked teams in this entire thing. So I. think a lot of people are wondering. who's who in this entire college. football world that we're living in. right now but nonetheless Oklahoma has a. lot of opportunity to win their way back. into the college football playoff. conversation if they were to lose this. game but if they lose this game they got. a lot of potential L's around the corner.

as well for Venables. >> Yeah, it's week nine so I put a little. bit more respect on those numbers now. It's not like that number that was next. to Penn State before the season started. So I respect a little bit more but what. do you think about the number next to. Oklahoma that minus four and a half. Steve? I guess it's for Steve and Tony. What do you think about that number? Good or what do you think? I thought it. was good and then I looked at this stat. Listen to this one. Top 10 teams are two. and 15 against the spread when an. underdog against a lower ranked team. This was Ole Miss last week against.

Georgia and that's again them again this. week. It's 0 and 6 this year when you. look at that top 10 team as a dog to a. lower ranked team. Oklahoma versus. Texas, Illinois versus Indiana, LSU. against Ole Miss, LSU against. Vanderbilt, Ole Miss last week against. Georgia and Texas at Ohio State. That's. that's a trend that's not good being on. the wrong side of. So that I I I like Tony's call there of. the defense being at home and Oklahoma. getting that ground game. They have you.

know, some young guys some freshman on. that offensive line they got to go. against a good defense in South Carolina. this year. So that makes me lean. Oklahoma. All right, let's go to the. next game that we need to be watching. this weekend. You know, the slight. interesting. Okay? Slightly interesting. We got a lot of good teams. We got a lot. of good storylines this weekend. Not as. many massive games but ball will show up. for us and this game could be special. This game could be Texas A&M reminding. everybody once again like hey, we are. for real dude. Like every every week.

that passes that Notre Dame win looks. better and better and better that they. go into there with Texas A&M. Only. undefeated team left in the SEC. They're. taking on an LSU team with no offense. Steve. Is that the story of the game in. your eyes? Yeah, there's also the. history. LSU is 12 12 and two. against A&M. A&M has just not had much. success against LSU at all. You go back. to last year that's that was the Marcel. Reed coming out party where he ran all. over that LSU defense. If A&M were to. win this game I would think they would.

be wary of a number one ranking Pat. When you look at what that win is that. looks that looks like now at Notre Dame. and now you go to LSU on a Saturday. night in a place that's just been. wretched to you in years past. I think. it's it's has all the goods. Marcel. Reed, those receivers against that great. defense of LSU is an awesome awesome. match up. You got everything you want in. this game as a top ranked team coming in. you know, as a small favorite against a.

team that's great at home. Hasn't lost. at home this year. and and you. the the key to me is Marcel Reed in that. offense because in these two road games. they've played they've gone to Notre. Dame and scored 41 and they went to. Arkansas and scored 45 last week. So. that's the match up. LSU's defense at. home against Marcel Reed and a guy who. continues to climb up those Heisman. polls and odds and all that stuff. What. happens in that match up when A&M's. offense is on the field? >> Operator won't you put me on through. that I save my love in a bad mood.

Hurry up. Brian Kelly lives down there. Go ahead. Debo. Yeah, he does right now. Is this. kind of a must win? It may be crazy. talk. Maybe a crazy question but is this. are we entering must win territory now. for Brian Kelly? Absolutely. Absolutely. When you look at. their schedule the remaining way they're. going to be underdog a bunch of more.

times. If if if chalk holds up I believe it's. they're going to be seven and five. I. don't know if Brian Kelly makes it to. that. They got road trips to Alabama. They have to go to Oklahoma or they get. Oklahoma at home. and then also you got Arkansas on a. rivalry game. >> At Oklahoma. Yeah, this is a monster. monster spot for LSU at home. >> At Bama next. At Oklahoma. Now they got. WESTERN KENTUCKY THERE.

YEAH, HUGE huge obviously middle of the. week football is good for all of us. Let's go to Hammer. Don. Tony, what's. the story of this game that maybe we. haven't hit yet? >> Yeah, I I love this A&M team and I love. the A&M offense because they are so. balanced. They they can run the ball. with that running back room that's. incredible. They can run the ball with. Reed. They can throw the ball with Casey. Concepcion and Craver on the outside. The defense Steve was talking about how. much how much the points the offense has. scored on the road. They are on the road. here at LSU. The defense gave up more.

than 40 at Notre Dame and more than 40. at Arkansas. So we'll see. I mean LSU. offense has not been good so they should. be better on the road here. But I mean. they got a guy on defense for A&M whose. name's Cashius Howry. He's got eight. sacks. He's going to be a first round pick next. season. They're the number two third. down defense in the country. I love A&M. I think they should win this. one. It would be a huge upset for me if. they did not. I just I mean I think as a. team they're just very very well.

rounded. >> All right, so we like A&M. They're. undefeated. We've liked them. since the beginning. We really like Ohio. State. Mhm. Okay? We really like. Indiana. >> Mhm. Okay? So we start piecing these. teams together. Alabama we all really. like, right? >> Yeah. Really like Vandy. Really like. Vandy as well. >> them. Cuz we really like Bama. Yeah. So. so it's like a it's one of those. situations. It feels like the cream is. starting to kind of rise to the top but. also it's college football [ __ ]. anything can happen. This weekend is one.

of those weekends where absolutely. anything can happen. On that note about. anything happening. James Franklin. joining the GameDay set. Steve, your. thoughts? I I thought everything I told. James Franklin on the set is exactly how. I felt about it. I I just want him to. know about it. I want everybody to know. about it. You sitting up here is [ __ ]. wild. Okay? I wasn't able to say that. but I do appreciate you just getting. into the pocket here and just sitting. right in the middle of what could be. incredibly awkward cuz he has no idea. what we're asking. I was not given a. question to ask. I was not told. Now do.

I want to bury a guy that is spending. his Saturday morning with us with an. [ __ ] question? Probably not but he. did not know what was going to happen. there. It's live television. Anything. can take place. If you listen to the. Penn State people they're like well it. was really nice you guys to do for James. Franklin. Okay? How come we didn't hear. a lot of stats being said? I saw the. graphics of a lot of these stats. Didn't. hear you guys saying anything about hey, you never won one for us even though. 2016 Big Ten championship year. So I. think the Penn State people are a little. emotional. What were your thoughts on.

James Franklin joining us and what were. your thoughts on him saying yep, we're. just going somewhere else to win a. national championship. He feels like. he's even more energized for the future. of coaching. Is that your takeaway from. our convo with him and what did you. think of it as a whole Steve? First off I thought it was extremely. brave to do. People people, you know, to your point. he's still getting up at the desk. He's. still getting to Athens, Georgia, you. know, in the middle of nowhere when. you're talking about Big Ten country and. all that and and to show up and do what.

he did is not an easy thing to do. I. don't care what the questions are. To. be, you know, humbled like that and. fired, you know, before a team meeting, you know, the Sunday before and to go. through those losses, you know, at UCLA, uh at home against Northwestern, to see. him walk off the field, uh you know, what looked to me like Heath knew that. was the last time, like it was going. down. Uh. to come back the next Saturday and stand. up in front of there I mean that I.

you're in the middle of the interview, I'm on the side, I'm trying to take it. all in. I mean there wasn't a you could. hear a pin drop in that thing because I. think people were really that interested. in what he had to say. And the coming. out of that, him him the want of him to. coach again was pretty evident. So, he's. going to have I mean the list is only. going to get bigger and longer for him. to possibly be a candidate of. So, I. don't think he's going to be out of. coaching for for a long time at all. I. think he's going to jump right back in. Massive respect for him going out there.

and doing it. Like even you guys got to. even think that's. incredible like AQ Shipley, Penn Stater, okay? Saw saw your name on the wall there a. couple times whenever we were there. How'd it look? I thought it looked. great. I thought you especially the. Remington Award trophy that's up there. it really, you know, symbolic of. greatness at Penn State which is how I. think the Penn Staters view it, right? Like Penn State people are sick of being. third, fourth in the Big Ten. We want to. win national championships. We are. putting the money up to win national. championships. We want to win the big. games let alone losing at home in front.

of a $700 million renovated stadium that. somehow still has 112,000. It feels like. the expectations at place are to win a. national championship. You guys haven't. been there in a long, long time which I. think a lot of people are saying on the. counter side of that. It's like your. guys' expectations aren't really. realistic. So, what is your kind of. takeaway? I I think the biggest thing. was first of all, yeah, it was very. admirable that he went down there. I. mean obviously that's not an easy thing. to do, but I think whenever you look at. what Penn State is expecting I think 5. years ago pre-NIL, pre-transfer or. pre-transfer portal. you're sitting there at 10 and 2 you. probably accept that and you feel pretty.

good about it, right? But the fact is is. that they put the amount of money that. they put back into this roster and kept. everybody from going other places I. think that was the issue. The. expectations were preseason number one. So many people had them preseason. winning the national championship. And. okay, you lose the game to Oregon, that's fine, but you got to you got to. come back the next week and you lose to. UCLA who hadn't won a game all year and. then you lose to Northwestern which. uh you just can't accept. Yeah. That's. what the Penn Staters were saying to the.

entire segment on Game Day. I don't know. if you kept up with the internet. reaction. Obviously I do, I live in that. world. It's a tough world to be in, but. I have to be in it for the gig. And it's. like the reaction from the Penn Staters. were like, "This is real [ __ ] nice. you guys. Just let this guy just let him. come up here and redo his entire image.". It's like I I don't think we were doing. that. We were just kind of getting an. opportunity to talk to a guy that's in a. very unique situation. I mean this guy. very good football coach, has built I. think what I said to him about you guys. like 10 years from now you will look. back on James. >> that to you last week. I mean I think.

everybody will be very grateful for what. he did for that program and where it was. when he took it over and where he. brought it to. But in the moment right. now, we're not in that time right now. We're not in that time right now, we. will be in the future, but who do they. get, Steve? Who who's who's the right. fit? Obviously everybody says Matt. Rhule. Matt Rhule was on our show last. week. He's like, "I'm coming we can. build a powerhouse here. We do which. obviously, you know, it is what it is. It is college ball, but it's like that's. really the only name now at this point. Sig. Signing and then other people is he. a fit or are they not a fit? Other.

people potentially not wanting to leave. like it's a pretty crazy time right now. in the head coaching search I'd assume. for multiple people including adding. Florida into this. Yeah, I I just look. at Penn State if they were going to pull. the trigger there. you have to think they have a plan. Right? I mean Pat Kraft's too good and. been around too long to not have a plan. I mean you hear coach Saban talk all the. time. He talks about getting, you know, coordinators leaving. He always had a. list. He always had a couple guys. I've. heard athletic directors talk about it. So, as after the Oregon loss you could.

sort of feel this, you know, hey, we we. missed a monster opportunity against the. you know, top 10 team which has been the. crux of Franklin's Franklin's tenure. So, I I don't know. It seems like it's. pretty tight to the vest with all that's. going on and all the money that they're. spending, uh there has to be a plan that. they are keeping it pretty tight to the. vest. >> Yeah, we shall see. It'll all work out, you know, it'll. What? Or won't. I think if you have. I think if you have that much money for. a roster that they're going to continue.

to have, we will assume. They're always going to have good. players. I think in this modern world of. recruiting. >> They will. A lot of NFL talent. >> I think they'll always have good. players. So, does that make them like a. champion? I don't I don't know, but I. think they will be like. I think whoever gets in there will have. a good team. Like I I think they will be. a good team. I don't think they're going. in the [ __ ] okay? They've been a. good team. They've been a good team. They need to win a national. championship, don't they? Yeah, like. next 4 years between Michigan, Oregon, Ohio State, and Penn State. Who do you think is out of those four.

like I have more faith in Bingo. I'm not. even including Indiana cuz they're. already going to win the natty this. year, but like at Indiana other than. Indiana. >> Yeah, other than Indiana or you can have. them in here cuz I forgot about them for. sure. No, you didn't. No, you didn't. No, you never forget about Mendoza. Mendoza for president, baby. My jersey's. in the mail, but still like out of those. schools like no doubt about it I would. rank Penn State last and then the other. ones having a better chance. Just the. next 4 years. And that's because of what. has happened over the last 10 years. Okay, that is what you're going with and. obviously all these places have cash as.

well. >> And they're losing every recruit right. now. Every recruit is decommitting. So, Terry Smith, his job as interim is, "Hey, how can we get this culture back. to where at least semi was and how do we. keep some of these recruits?" Or you got. to make a splash hire to tell these. recruits, "Hey, let's come back." I. would not be worried about the. decommitments. cuz whatever coach you get that you're. going to get there. >> flip. Yeah, it's like none of this. matters right now. The portal. It's totally different now too NIL. It's.

just going to be money. I I I really I really believe that. When. you look at and hear what coaches talk. about, as long as you have the money. you're going to get the players. Which. goes back to they're always they're. going to have a good team. Always going. to have a good team. Yeah, always going. to have a good team because the alumni. are like we would like to [ __ ] win a. national. It would be cool if we were. able to go these places and just kind of. flex our [ __ ] to everybody, but instead. you start rattling off names. What if I. you. >> All those schools have money. Like I I. get money's a thing and Penn State has a. lot of money. Indiana has a lot of.

money. Oregon has a lot of money. Michigan has a lot of money. Ohio State. has like everyone's got a lot of money. now. Sorry, not everyone. The top. billing teams have a lot of money. And. so like sure you can it does come down. like I completely agree with you, Steve. It does just come down to money when it. comes to players, but at the same time. if everyone's money's kind of similar. then what what's the next best thing? Chance to win. a championship and Penn State is not in. the top three when it when it we're just. talking about the Big Ten. Think about. this. Think about this sales pitch. You.

could be the one that brings the. national championship to Penn State. You. could be a hero here forever. And I. think they're top three in draft picks. by the way. Putting people in the NFL in. the James Franklin era by the way. Like. they put people in the pros and they all. are killing it in the pros. Good. players, yeah. Why don't you guys just. sign Jon Gruden and get over it? I hope. I hope they don't steal Jim Mora from I. wouldn't hate that. I said I said Mora. would be an awesome hire if he was to go. to Penn State. I said Jon Gruden on Game. Day and I was not planning on saying. that. Like that was not like a planned. line. Just in the moment I'm like, "Fuck.

doesn't Gruden want to coach again? How. come we're not saying Gruden's name?" He. would be a great college football Guy. with a pulse. You you mentioned Jeff. Brohm. He's coaching soon too by the way. Who's. that? Jon Gruden. Where? Jon Gruden. versus Jay Gruden in the Hula Bowl. Oh, sweet. I maybe that's an audition to get back. in the game. Can we go? I just see him in the SEC, Jon Gruden. I don't know why, but I just. see him as an SEC coach. Him and Lagway?

But then down in Florida there's a lot. of names that are associated with that. Florida job too. True. Steve, who ends up with that job? Oh, put me on the spot, huh? We know who. they. want. Oh, yeah. I. reading stuff this week I thought it was. interesting. They know Lane is the guy. that everybody wants. People have. talked, you know, he's the modern day. Spurrier and you look what Spurrier did. there and he's still still the god. So, from what I read they're going to make. Lane say no twice. So, that just means. more millions of dollars. I mean he's up.

there, but now you're talking about 11, 12 million dollars and he's going to say. no. That's that's a tough deal. That's. not the big separate the obviously the. millions for him is obviously a big. deal, but the finances for the team, right? Like that is the different ball. game. Like everybody says Florida has. big NIL, right? Yeah, I just I feel like there's I don't. know if they they're aligned correctly. If that makes sense with your Makes. sense. You know, you got ADs, you got.

donors, you you whatever. Like that they. just need to get on the same page and. that's when you have a school that. monstrous and cares that much, that's. where I feel like their problems have. come. So, alignment Alignment technique. The why why Swamp's getting redone too, 2-year project. >> Why did Governor DeSantis who's he. trying to pluck? What's he doing? There's something He was trying to pluck. Sig. Yeah, he was That's what it was. Yeah, he was trying to get Sig Daddy. Governor DeSantis quote tweeting things. saying, "Hey, Sig, you'd love Florida. down here." It's like, "Hey, Gov,

we don't need that." He doesn't like. Florida. Okay, then he signs $93 million. deal. He's like, "No, thank you to. Florida. I like the fall up here." But. whenever you're talking about the. governors getting involved and trying to. figure out the [ __ ] state school. team, it's like yeah, they're going to. figure it out down there at some point. I hope they do because this bad boy is. awesome whenever it's like kind of in. And uh it's a special time. All right, we appreciate the hell out of you, Steve. I'll see you down in Nashville. Sounds good. No pressure for AQ with. Colts are the best offensive line in the. league now. Agreed.

Okay. This isn't cumulative rankings. that we do this, Steve. You will see. >> You will see in the trenches top five. performing offensive lines tomorrow. You. also see everything DB good D bad D. tomorrow and for us we're going to head. the hell out of here. We can't thank you. enough for allowing us to do this for a. living. AJ great work today. The hair. looks phenomenal. Yep, I don't know but yeah appreciate. it. Great great job by you buddy. I do. appreciate the fact you had to change. your entire hair because they said it. was starting to look like a yarmulke. That's what he's doing right now.

No that's that was in the process of it. I think. The yarmulke came as I was. growing it out. Oh really? I thought it. it just for some reason your hair. >> know maybe. Maybe earlier I don't know. but yeah I think that's when it came up. Hey it's okay. Mazel dude. It's all good. bro. I'm all right. Jeez oh Pete. >> and months. It's It's a month Yeah it. takes a long time right? I think it. looks good though. I think your hair. looks good. >> Yeah we'll see. Good haircut too. Face. is shiny. You know what I mean? Jawline. It's kind of It's really warm up here. I. can't regulate this attic very well and.

sometimes it's super hot and sometimes. it's super cold. We're in that time of. year not only do you need allergy stuff. you also need to know that if the sun's. hitting your windows well it could be a. thousand degrees inside. Yes. But then. as soon as that sun disappears we're in. the desert now it's cold as [ __ ] in. there. And then do you have the heater. on? Do you have the AC on? Well I have. auto on. Well my [ __ ] auto has no. idea what's going on either. It's tough. to kind of adjust. So we're in that time. of year you know we're in Oh the house. is 78 degrees all the way down to Oh the. house is 61 degrees. That is where we.

are right now. It's a good time to be. alive. It's football season. Tone why. don't you come OUT OF HAMMER DONE. DONE. LET'S GO AND GET THE HELL OUT OF HERE. SHALL WE? HOPE YOU'RE good buddy. Hey hope you're. good. Do you want to do a giveaway? Sure. Ooh. Ooh. Here we go. You know D-Bone threw. one off a wall yesterday. >> He did. It's about the luckiest [ __ ] thing. I've ever seen. It's pretty sweet. >> Divine intervention. You son of a [ __ ]. >> It was unbelievable. >> Here it is right here. We're fast. forwarding it alive on camera I believe. Is this feed two show right here that. we're showing?

This is it. Okay. Got some time to get to it I think and. D-Bone got a motivational speech from. Bruce Arians. He steps into the D-Bone. spot. He says he is a U-Ball pioneer cuz. he does that shot right there with a. throw Thank Jesus. Christ. nothing but chain. Boom. That's. D-Bone U-Ball right there. He's calling. himself [ __ ] Magellan. of U-Ball. He's calling himself. Christopher Columbus Lewis and Clark if. you will. He is a U-Ball pioneer cuz he.

throws it like this when everybody else. was doing this and I want to let you. know AJ started to mock him yesterday. before he did this throw. I mocked him. because I'm like hey it's like the Dr. Pepper thing. You're supposed to throw. it. Don't be doing chest passes. The. throw might be the right move and. D-Bone's doing a lot of this. I'm a. pioneer. Yeah a lot of that. >> Christopher Columbus is a good. comparison just [ __ ] lost out here. Good luck. I think that is a good comparison for. team D-Bone and Butts cuz It is my. partner though. Ever since that first.

day you guys haven't had a lot Oh yeah. sorry D-Block did have one win I think. yeah. The D-Boys though are certainly. starting some else and uh It's a rough. go at it. There is a champion of the. office. AJ I know you I don't know if. you can see it as Tone has made his. thing. Damn it. Where does this ball. reside? You know where it resides. Yeah. With me and Foxy. Foxy good work. yesterday buddy. Yep good shooting. Here. we go. Who's AQ's partner? Tone. Oh okay. They're going to play again. yesterday? No. Tone just found it out. Tone will get rid of you as a partner.

He was my partner last week. >> Yeah Tone Tone will certainly say this. ain't working it's not you it's me. See. you later and kind of get out of here. Bruce is my partner on Wednesdays. Bone. is my partner on Thursdays cuz Butsy. isn't here. Yeah but you fired Bone. What was that last week and the week. before that? No Bruce and I Bruce yeah. I me and. Bruce now are a unit. Pretty good little. team. We got a lot of good teams kind of. brewing out here. Dirty actually good. player too. Dirty's been working on his. shooting. He's going to end up being. teammates with somebody and they're. going to steal a win. Dirty Mitts. Dirty Mitts was.

They were just trying not to get shut. out yesterday. And they didn't. Have. potential. Got two points. They do go to. They're out there. They can stand on the. court. Thank you. What do you want to do? It's football season. Come on. It's U-Ball season too but where do you. want to throw this football? Okay. Let's shoot right over here. Um if. you're able to bury this particular. football. for the Brandon Baby Duke into that. basketball. We used to stare down Jabba before. That. Jabba will beat you. Oh.

Like this. I don't want you to Jabba. I. don't play no games buddy. Just making. sure it's not me. Jabba Jabba will hit. you with a higher higher higher. I don't. know if you should be messing with Jabba. whenever you're trying to win some. people some money. That's a good point. >> AJ actually has a motivational message. for you to go ahead and make some people. happy on this glorious Watch Wednesday. Yep I sure do AJ. You know hey do this. one for James Franklin. Win it for him. Boom. There it is. One for James. This. one And and Shoms. For James. AQ Shipley.

25 winners of $500 if you're able to put. that football into that basketball hoop. right there. The chain net is obviously. all busted because of too many splashy. splashes into that particular hoop. Not. a lot by you but I do know right now. could be the time Perfect. for you to. win 25 people $500. AQ for the good of. Penn State. Not a lot of wins over there. recently. You could do it for the people. AQ Shipley would be in the Hall of Fame. Steps up wearing khakis Here we. and a hoodie. Ooh. Ooh. Yeah good ball though. Good.

ball. I think that went in. Might have. I can't tell. Yeah I can't. tell either. There is a chance. I I. heard the splash. What? What? What? Is. there I don't know what everybody's. talking about. >> no net on that side. Yeah. I think it. went in. >> did not go in. I would like to let everybody know that. that did not go in. It me and Tone we. got pretty good eyes on that. I'd say. you were four feet off. But it looked good. It looked good. Best. throw I've had in a long time. All right.

well let's go. We're off on that one. Be. a friend tell a friend something nice it. might change your life. We're in this. thing together. Team on me. Anything say. AQ? Hey let's have a better week next week. huh? Yeah. Let's go. Get better every week. Yeah. Team on three. ONE TWO THREE TEAM. GOODBYE.