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that for a living. You're the greatest. people on earth. We can't thank you. enough. And hopefully today we give you. at least a reason to say I spent some. time with the boys over there in the. Thunderdome. We got some great segs. today. >> Oh yeah. >> Hey, a lot of good segs today. Okay. We. got uh you know that seg that really. makes you feel tough and gritty. We're. going in the trenches with 12-year NFL. vet Super Bowl champion player coach for. the Tampa Buccaneers. AQ Shipley. >> Can't wait to go in the trenches. AQ. Who are the top five performing. offensive lines coming out of week six? Who are the teams that have the big guys.

that are moving at a good pace? Who are. the big guys that could maybe lead their. team to another Super Bowl just like the. offensive line of the Philadelphia. Eagles did last year? Who has the best. offensive line in the league? Are they. the best team in the league? Because. that's what, you know, we've learned. from last year's study is if you have. the best offensive line in the league, you win the Super Bowl. That's modern. football. You know, it used to be uh. punch them and mock ground and pound. rugby style football. We know we grew up. on them, 38 years old, especially in the. city of Pittsburgh. We all ought to. ground and pound back and you know steel.

curtain comes around. You think about. that old school day. Then there was an. innovation in offensive football where. somebody was like, "Holy shit." I. believe his name was Hal Mummy actually. He said, "We got everybody in here. running faces into each other. We need. to separate everybody and make them. smaller and just make everybody fast.". Then it started kind of uh spreading. everything out. Football started. becoming a fast man sport. Uh football. started becoming less 250, 245 lb. linebacker, more 225, 215 pound. linebacker because they got to go. sideline to sideline. You see, and that. captivated football. That captivated.

fantasy football. That change rules of. games. You started seeing tight ends. become more and more dominant because. the bodies were getting smaller in the. middle of the field. Wow. They were. changing rules so that there'll be more. offensive explosion cuz we want to see. points. But now it feels like with all. the small bodies on the defense, some. offensive geniuses around the league who. say, "Listen, it's time to punch these. little dudes in the mouth.". >> Hell yeah. and ground and pound football. is coming back with some. wrinkles. >> of the explosive football that we love. from yesterday year. So football's in a. great spot, but it feels like the.

trenches are more important than they've. ever been in the outcome of games. And. no offense can really go without a great. offensive line. So we learn every single. week about the top five from AQ Shipley. And this is the definitive top five. This is no [ __ ] Nobody's arguing. This is what it is. Ain't that right, AQ? That's what you're hearing from the. offensive line community, I'm sure. >> Absolutely. They love it. And listen, I. just go by the tape. I just go by the. tape. >> He's pretty biased, too. If he'll get a. text from some team or a player, I love. what you're doing on trenches. Oh, maybe. give them a shot.

>> We're good last. >> Yeah, you guys live five. I mean, it's. not going to be in there. >> Check these DMs real quick. Yep. Raiders. are in it this week. >> That can't be what this becomes. This is. a very vital piece of information. whenever we're gambling on games. Nine-year NFL vet Darius Jay Butler is. here. everything DB good D bad D. obviously cannot wait to watch I I. didn't pay attention enough to the. defenses and I think that's kind of a. common issue whenever football fans. watch games is we're following the ball.

let's go to the next one hand off where'. it go is in the oh he's out there we're. following the ball. >> we don't really know what the hell's. going on the other side you breaking. them down for us has been a true gift to. football bra uh brains and lovers I. think personally today do we Do you have. any like embarrassing defense that we're. going to display? How many good D's do. we have? And how many of the bad limp. bad do we have? >> We got four. Four good D and then two. bad D's. You always got to have two. But. you know, you got to take your medicine,

see what happened. You know, we we all. did it in the film room and then you go. move forward. You learn from it. >> How is uh how are defenses performing. this year? >> Oh, it's it's hard to say. It's kind of. a week to week just like with the. matchups, week to weekly. Sometimes it's. uh damn near 30 interceptions, sometimes. it's 15. Uh you have forced fumbles, you. have all type of different things um. that you can grade them by. But uh once. I put a grade out, I'm not uh once I put. a grade out and watch the tape, I move. on. I don't go back and you know, >> yeah, see there's a little slight shot. from nine NFL vet right there to uh. certain grading systems out there. And.

that leads right into what I would like. to talk about today because boy, it is a. hot topic, is it not? The toxic table at. Boston Connor and at Tai Schmidt stats. from one particular company are coming. under fire radar. >> Oh man, >> Ty. Now, there's been a select community. that has been anti-PF for a very long. time. Okay? Very vocal. Since the. beginning of PFF, there's been people. that say, "Nope, hate it. Hate it. See. denominator. Hate it. Hate it. Hate it.". Okay. Stats kind of taking over football. was something that a lot of people hate. PF became like the commercial face of.

stats taking over football because. Collinssworth's Yeah. They're Jordan. Yeah. They the Jordan brand of stats. PF. authority. >> Oh, you're saying the authority. >> Yeah. >> Okay. I would say also the Jordan brand. I think BFF kind of became the drawer. and the authority brand of like stats. commercial companies. Chris. Collinssworth tying obviously and I. assume it's a negotiated deal with NBC. that they will be used during Sunday. Night Football which is obviously the. most watched game every single week. So. these PFF things become like the. authority on the stats world and there's.

been people that have hated that since. very very beginning. Sure. A lot of ex. players and current players hate these. things. Now this isn't the first time or. first era of players hating ranking. systems. I have been very open about my. feelings with the Madden folks whenever. I debuted on that particular game. And. although I was not a Madden player, everybody around me were Madden players. and they couldn't wait to punt with me. their first time. And then all I heard. from everybody is how ass I was as a. punter in Madden and in life. That's how. people felt. And I said, I never met a. Madden guy. Has this guy ever watched me. kick? Has this guy ever watched me lift?

My strength was like 14. >> Yeah, I'm I was getting I was watching. myself just get my ass beat by people on. this try to throw a football. Strength, arm strength went to nothing. I'm like, "These bad people have never seen me. throw a football. I've been an all-time. cornerback in my neighborhood since I'm. 8 years old cuz I can go telephone pole. to telephone pole. I'm pump pass and. kick world champion. I can spin this. thing. You got my arm strength to 13. What the [ __ ] do you know, Madden people. make me look bad to my family?" Okay, that's just my story. >> That's just my story. >> I'm a punter. Low-level punter.

>> Think about all the other stories in. which these PFF grades have changed ways. people's uh lives have gone. Madden has. gone. Let alone playing with yourself. >> Yeah. >> Getting bombed on by 14-year-old. >> in headset. >> right. >> on you. Bombass trash ass. Okay. In real. life though, you literally just lock. this person down. So the rating and the. number next to somebody. Okay. Always. been a talking point. Whenever one. becomes the authority over others and. one becomes like a bible or like a most.

definite factoid for people, there is. always going to be detractors. and ex-. players have been attacking and coaches. have been attacking. Spagnola, the. defense coordinator for the Chiefs, I. think two weeks ago, came out and said, "I know PFF is gonna say and then buried. it.". >> Yeah. >> Chris Long, Super Bowl champion, hit a. dinger of a uh I'll say a PFF take on. his most recent podcast. >> Get Momes quarterback 13 of 32 off my. television screen. We're talking about. legislation, what our kids shouldn't see. at school, what they shouldn't be.

learning about. Like, should we have. political ads on television? I want the. PFF scores off the TV as bad as I want. political ads off the television because. like, god forbid there's somebody. watching the game who doesn't know who. [ __ ] Patrick Mahomes is, right? They're going to be badly misguided, brother. 13th best quarterback in the. league. I mean, if I was Nandi and maybe. he earned it this year, but I would. [ __ ] sue. >> I'd be in Chris Collinssworth's. backyard, dude. You know what I'm. saying? I I'd be at the window. >> Like, what the [ __ ] You can't do that,

dude. You can't do that. That's at the. very beginning, too. Like at the very. beginning, they're scra. Hey, let's. introduce you to these characters. Okay. Uh here's Nandi 119 judged. He's the. worst. Okay. And it's not like golf. You. don't want to be the lowest. Okay. This. is He's by far the worst. Patrick. Mahomes, middle of the pack. Okay. Just. kind of middle of the pack here. Go. around. Then there's people that somehow. there's like more than 32 starters and. they'll somehow put you in there and. it'll be like uh ranked 27th out of 33. or something like that or 33rd out of.

30. It's like you're really burying. these people on things that you might. not know all the information. And I. think that is why players hate it so. bad. And coaches say, "Hey, I'm actually. the one that told this one player on. this one particular look to leave his. person and go. It was our decision to do. that strategy. You know, we're trying to. mix it up a little bit. You can't. imagine PFF trying to judge Troy. Palamalu. >> Yeah. >> Okay. Troy Palamolo had no rules. He's. everywhere all the time. So PFF would. just have to say, well, well, he's. actually cover three here, so he's.

supposed to get this deep third and he. left his deep third. So that's actually. a downfall. He does get the sack where. he jumps over an offensive lineman, but. his actual job on the play was to be. deep third. So he kind of they could. have got bombed on if he didn't jump. It's like those types of conversations. being able to exist just completely. defeat your argument that your rankings. are definitive and the fact that it gets. showed in a biggest game. I like the. players and everybody's starting to kind. of stick up for it. And there's always. been a little anti-PF out there.

>> Oh yeah. >> Oh yeah. >> There's always been a And I'm I was PFF. punter of the decade. >> That's right. >> Congratulations. >> We celebrate that. I still got the. sweatshirt. >> They sent us hoodies. >> Yeah. >> I put the hoodie on. I was pumped about. it. Now, I would argue in PFF's case, uh, punting is probably a pretty. straightforward one on who's doing good, who's not doing good. So, let's make. sure we take PFF serious whenever it. comes to punting because that benefits. me. Now, not benefiting anybody else in. this particular world. Then there are. situations that brew like uh, you know, TJ Watt and Miles Garrett this weekend.

So, obviously TJ Watt, Miles Garrett. defensive MVP battles AFC North. There. is real tension here between the two of. them on who's the goat. Not only in the. NFL, but just the AFC North and. Cleveland and Pittsburgh. Obviously, historic rivalry of cities and towns and. this is AFC North football getting to. the quarterback. Big tough guys that. lead their team. One guy sets the market. for the other guy. One guy sets the pace. for the other guy. These two have been. battling and PFF has seemingly always. kind of leaned towards Miles Garrett. >> Certainly. Okay. TJ Watt has a lot of. stats, okay, which we thought they loved.

with stats that would indicate that TJ. Ward is on a historic run and we should. maybe give this guy a little bit more. credit. But what PFF says is we're not. just looking at stats, even though we. are stats people. We're looking at the. game. We're not looking at the outcome. of the play. We're looking at what's. actually happening on the field. You. guys watch highlights, we watch film. Here's PFF explaining how Miles Garrett. obviously lost uh to the Pittsburgh. Steelers, Cleveland Browns, who. seemingly statistically wise had much. less of a performance than TJ Watt did, but still outperformed TJ Watt and then.

they dropped the points later after. second Evval. But here's PFF guy on the. right describing everything about how. they got to that score. >> And they saw that Miles Garrett's grade. was ahead of TJ Watt and they weren't. very happy about it. And they wondered. how Miles Garrett was able to get that. high of a grade while only having one. pressure. Those are the preliminary. grades and and we we go over the grades. We comb over it. We have our rechecks. and everything. And so those are the. final grades that we showed you right. there. But I do want to say like Garrett. still had a really good game in this. game. His passers win percentage was.

still pretty dang high. He was still a. force to be reckoned with in this game. The fact of the matter is the Steelers. had a fantastic game plan for him. They. constantly had different looks with. tight ends being able to be on his side. of the line of scrimmage and chip him. and all that kinds of stuff. the. offensive line I thought played really. well in mitigating exactly where Miles. Garrett could go and how he could impact. the game. If they were running the. football, a lot of times they weren't. running it at Miles Garrett. They were. making him get beyond a chip or beyond. the offensive tackle just to chase the.

running back from behind. And a lot of. times he couldn't do it. And to be. honest with you, part of this great. Aaron Rogers game, which I'm going to. get to more in a second. >> Yes, please. >> Rogers is the perfect quarterback to. mitigate a guy like. >> taking my ears out. >> He's getting the ball out of his hands. quickly. He's not dumb. He knows Miles Garrett is. to his blind side and he knows how to. just get around that. And so I thought. it was an excellent job from the. Pittsburgh Steelers game planning around. Miles Garrett to make him a non-factor.

in this game. That didn't mean that. Miles Garrett did not have a good game. I thought he was a presence. He was. impactful. He was still winning a lot of. his assignments. by the time he was able. to win versus a tight end and versus an. offensive tackle, that ball's gone. Yep. >> And Aaron Rogers knew that. And so it. was just a a hat tip to. what the Steelers were able to do, I. think, from a philosophical standpoint. going into this game to neutralize a. great talent like Miles Garrett. So hats. off to what Pittsburgh was able to do.

>> BFF guy on the right says this was. actually a compliment to the Pittsburgh. Steelers because of how good of a game. Miles Garrett had and he didn't have. much of an impact. Now, if that's going. to be the story for all of your rankings. in your ratings, that needs to be. explained on the PFF rankings on Sunday. Night Football. Certainly, hey, these. are actually uh rankings off of thinking. how good of another team actually did. against how you actually did for your. assignment. Now, what is your. assignment? We're kind of guessing here. We think that your assignment is to do. this on every single play. I appreciate. the fact that he said Miles Garrett had.

a good game. Pittsburgh Steelers just. out out scheme this guy. Now grant. there's swats and jumps and other ways. you can affect if you're not getting. home because of how quick it is and. there's different ways to affect the. game and getting to the quarterback is a. part of it. Stopping the run is. obviously a part of it. But it's like. all these little qualifiers that they. have. I don't think the general public. knows. So whenever you're putting the. ranking system up, I think maybe we. should put a follow-up graphic that also. explains everything he just said there. Okay. PF got it right. I think he nailed. it. Okay. And I it does make sense with. what he said whenever you hear him say. how he said it. It just doesn't make.

sense that you guys give an actual. rankings without everybody understanding. it. is a compliment to the offense as. opposed to a slight against TJ Watt. >> Yeah, I mean it's it's just tough. whenever you put a grade, like you said, whenever you put a grade on something is. tough. The only people that can truly. grade it are like the coaches and the. players, like position coaches, coordinators, they cuz they know exactly. what's going into it. And I kind of. understood what he was saying. It's kind. of like a a Revas type guy. If he just. locks down one side of the field and you. can say, "Oh, he didn't have any PBUS or. any tackles or any interceptions. He. didn't impact or this guy had one.

interception." And you can say, "Okay, this guy impacted the game more." Uh, but it's Yeah, it kind of put my mind in. a pretzel as well. I I mean, it's great. job. Keep doing your thing. PF is a good. tool. I think it is a good tool. Um, you. could definitely use it along with. watching the tape and watching the games. and doing [ __ ] like this. But, uh, it's. a time and a place for it. Uh, Sunday. Night Football. I understand the. business relationship there with Chris. Chris Collinssworth, but uh, yeah, that's you you can't have I agree with. Chris Long with his with his sentiment.

Take it off my screen. >> That was awesome. Uh, Chris Long really. laid it out perfectly. God forbid. somebody's never seen the game before. >> Patrick Mahomes, this is the best player. in this is our guy right now. Hey, the. guy who eats ketchup in the middle of. Kansas City, seemingly nice to. everybody. Uh, everybody, he's a. hardworking guy and oh yeah, he's. already in the goat conversation. He's. not even 30 years old. Let's let's try. to make him look good at the beginning. of our biggest show every single weekend. instead. Somebody seeing that he's just. middle of the pack in the NFL. That's a. funny way for Chris. Chris Long saw that.

and was just disgusted. These mother I. would I would like to know what they did. to Chris Long. I assume there is a I. assume there is a deep seed either Chris. Long story of a ranking or somebody. that's very close to him ranking and. >> yeah I mean he comes from a football. family obviously the long football. dynasty but I appreciate that. everybody's kind of spinning against it. right now. Well, and I think a big issue. like whether people wanted like stats is. such a big part of like the NFL and. people who aren't in the NFL that want. to talk about it now that maybe it. wasn't 10 years ago. But think of like.

all the how this affects like legacies. Like we were talking about, you know, an. agent or like a team bringing this up in. uh you know, like a negotiation. It's. like, well, you know, PFF has you as the. 119th of 119th uh tackle. But in terms. of like MVP votes and stuff like that, like there are a lot of people out there. who are very like analytics driven and. you know the NFL is kind of already. co-signed on this stuff. It's on Sunday. Night Football. So like there are. definitely people who look at this stuff. and it's like okay well you know.

defensive player of the year like look. how many weeks you know Miles Garrett. had a 92 rating or higher. So it's like. whether you like it or not like this. stuff is absolutely also influencing all. votes. Yeah. like contracts, negotiate, you name everything, legacies, life, >> daytoday life for people. I mean, it it. does affect a lot of things. Once again, >> for the punting rankings, I think. they're pretty spot on. Just if I had to. guess, they watch they watch every It. used to be I I thought the angle was. too, it used to be scouts, like old.

scouts watching film that didn't want to. wait to either become general managers. They found something that was good for. them in the media lane, which is like. how you would evaluate and how you would. judge tape and score tape and things. like that. It's like PFF guy on the. right there. Was he Was he uh cuz guy on. the left I don't think I knew him. either. >> Is it Trevor? Yeah. >> Okay. Was he was he a scout or. something? I'm not sure. >> I don't believe so. >> Okay. So, that used to be the thing, right? PF had old scouts that would come. in there. I think that was like the big. selling point. So, I think for a lot of. football fans, NFL fans, it's like, hey, these are the actual people that were.

doing the judging of things. So, if this. is how this is going to go, this is how. it's going to go. And AJ Hawk has texted. us, you don't win assignments in. football. Okay. That's what he That's. what he just said. So, he's picking. apart that particular answer, but that's. always going to have stats people and. football people. AQ offensive line. I. couldn't even imagine what a winning. assignment looks like and what a losing. assignment looks like. And I would. assume PFF had you as a loser a lot if I. had to guess. >> Surprisingly, they actually had me. winning quite often. >> Okay. So, they're pretty good at judging. centers.

>> I was a technique guy, so it it was kind. of easy. But to go to your point, >> if anybody's using that as a tool while. they're watching film, they're a. [ __ ]. >> I don't know what else to say about. that. But here's what I will say. >> There's a lot of those people. >> There is a lot of those people. And then. coaches also use this to justify their. job. I'm telling you, I've seen it. What. a coach will do that will come in after. the game and be like, "Hey, the tackle's. just getting I mean, he's getting run. around all game. He's giving up. pressures, giving up sacks." And then. they'll be like, "Hey, this is how I can. justify my job." Well, PFF had him at a.

85 pass protection rate. That's what. we're talking about. It's infiltration, >> but that's where you go. So, like say. like, hey, I want to go and watch all. the just like we used to do cutups, cover three, single high or match zones. or or split safety fire zones and I. could just watch that. Like that'll help. me. I don't have to go and watch every. PL. Hey, I just watch these two zone. I. just watch similated pressure. I just. watch that. And that can help you from. that standpoint. Or like a quarterback, uh, where's his heat map? Where does he. like to throw the ball? Does he like to, uh, between the seams? Does is he stay. away from the middle of the field? Does.

he like the sidelines? So like it can. help you kind of cut down the time part. of it, but you got to still be able to. watch the film and the stuff we do like. the breakdown stuff. Well, it's probably. a little different with O line, but as. far as secondaries, like it's only so. many coverages and based off, you know, my experience. Okay, it's a cover four, they're trying to do it here. >> You say that every time you break my. >> Yeah, I but I can't say 1,000% unless. you know I shoot a text or I call. somebody. Hey, and you have that. conversation and you know, you go back. and forth. But things change so much and. even the coverages that we know or the.

past protections that you know inside. and out can be massaged between [ __ ]. series. So it's always moving parts. So. whenever you whenever anyone can get on. TV and say this is what it is without a. shadow of a doubt blah blah. 99% of the. time they're probably wrong. >> Well the duo play that we talk about I. talk about it all the time. It's double. team double team double team. Well if I. don't have a double team on the backside. and I have a backside nose guard but the. play is being run to the right. I want. to lose with this guy getting up the. field away from the play. But PFF might.

look at that and say, "Oh, he got beat. His guy's five yards in the back field.". Well, good. I took him out of the play. I want to ride him five yards up the. field, right? >> So, that's where like the ex scouts. being in there would allegedly make up. for that. And I don't know if that's. still the thing. >> I mean, I don't think it is. And even. with them in there, like. >> for quarters, for example, if we play. quarters, we say, "All right, we're. going to trap this one." like third and. eight. They like to run a out from. number two and over the top. So, hey, I'm in a trap too. So, I'mma jump two. If you're a PFF, you just watch me jump.

two and I drop number one. But my safety. is not on the same page. He doesn't get. over top of number one. That's a blown. assignment for the quarterback. When in. reality, they go to the sideline. The DB. coach going to be like, "Hey, what. happened? The this is the conversation. that was had. This is what actually. happened." So, it's just so much that. goes on. You never really know unless. you know you watch the tape. And a lot. of times people reach out and say this. is what happened or this is what the. coach told me. So being you know plugged. in I'm sure these guys are plugged in. somewhat to people in the buildings as. well. I know how much the players and. I'm sure they can make coaches.

>> because there these people these people. are infiltrating the buildings in the. system. All right. >> Joining us now ladies and gentlemen is a. man who's a huge fan and I think he uses. it every single day as well to grow his. brain and maybe even his brand as a. football analysis giver. Uh he's. obviously got the brute strength and the. ball. >> and he's obviously uh very handsome, but. with the help of PFF, he's built his. stats game to a level where now. >> he's calling games every Sunday. >> Nice. >> Ladies and gentlemen, future first.

ballot hall of famer, one of the only. members of the Bull Ring of Honor down. there for the Houston Texans. Former. Walter Payton man of the year whenever. he raised ass all the money. >> for the city of Houston. >> Burnley owner, espanol winner JJ W. Yay. >> If you could please elaborate on your. PFF usage and thoughts, especially fresh. out of a week where your brother got a. lower ranking than uh Miles Garrett in a. battle, you know, in which there's a lot.

of legacy, a lot of conversation, a lot. of tension, a lot of rivalry, a lot of. everything between those two. So, if you. could break it down your angle. Now, we. we haven't left a lot of meat on the. bone with the things that we have said. about BFF from a players perspective. Now Jage, I'm sure you have some ideas. on what maybe hasn't been mentioned in. this entire argument, but you have been. an open, hey, we can't be putting the. rankings on TV. This is not a how this. goes guy for a while now. Many other. people are feeling empowered to maybe uh. say it as well or why do you think there. is a little bit of a ground swell right.

now where people are going we got to. change how this goes if this is how it's. going to continue to go? Uh, well, I. think first things first that that. conversation, the TJ Miles conversation, people want to take that and turn it. into something different. This is I've. had my issues with PFF for a very long. time. Oh, yeah. I was their number one. rated player. I had over aundred score. while I was playing. They had to change. the system. They literally came to me. and told me, "We had to change our. system because of how you did it." So, this isn't. >> a guy who had bad grades, who's. disgruntled. I literally was their.

number one guy, and I still hate it. I. have to start with this. PF has a lot of. very beneficial tools. They have things. Debut was just talking about it. They. have things where you can break down. plays by coverages, where you can cut. down the film to I just want to see runs. to the right side under five yards. They. have all this really good stuff that you. can use. The number one issue with PFF by far, bar none, hands down, is their player.

grading system and the fact that they. project it everywhere, including. nationally televised games on Sunday. night where everybody's watching and. they make it underneath the rankings. where it states as fact 91st out of 97th. defensive tackles, 117 out of 117 offensive guard. And that is a completely. madeup number.

That is not like the coaches around the. league and the players around the league. and that is a guy or guys in the back. room. I this I'm getting hot. I'm. getting hot. >> Oh, I like going. how you summon some change. You know, you got personal stories of Uber drivers. telling NFL passengers that they break. down film for PFS. and that they watch the TV copy only and.

put a grade out after the game. >> That Uber drivers, >> you can't watch film on the TV copy and. create a grade. You can't break down a person's grade. and know what they're supposed to do if. you don't know their exact assignment. Like Debbut just said, I know defensive. line play unbelievably well. I could not. go and grade a game for a player and. give him a definitive grade without. speaking to him, his coach, the scheme, everything. It's just a fact. PF has a.

ton of great stuff. Player grading. sucks. Stop putting it out. >> Hell yeah. >> And a boy change. >> Well done, J. >> Well done, J. Change. He broke the system. >> This guy broke the system and now he's. raging against it, you know, and he's. saying, "Hey, this ain't right. You You. guys might have liked me, but I got. teammates that you were misjudging in. this entire thing." And Jage, I think. that's right. We We talked about this,

too. Like when PFF was trying to make. like a name for itself in the stats. world because there's a lot of stats. coming. Stats, stats, stats, stats, stats, stats, stats, stats, stats. everywhere. They were coming. We're coming for your sport, bro. >> We got a whole new area to do it. And I. think I would like to say as football. guys and football people, we were pretty. open to it. I think, you know, I I think. we were pretty open to the stats at the. beginning. We're saying a lot of it was. [ __ ] But listen, there's some very. beneficial things. I think this is good. stuff. Whenever the coaches started.

making only their decisions for this. entire thing and changing it all, I. think we, you know, kind of started. judging them a little bit more harshly. for not having a feel or a gut feel or. an instinct or anything like that. But. PFF became the one because of the I. don't want to say the hot takes, but. basically the hot takes. I think they're. at the stage now where they don't have. to do that anymore, right? Which is kind. of what you're saying. Like, hey, you. got a lot of other good [ __ ] that would. be a sustainable business, I think, for. a lot of football people. I think you. guys have found what you guys could be. and and could be a real asset for. So, just doing the trolling holier than.

thou, >> we know everything [ __ ] is just stupid. at this stage, I think, is what you're. saying. A lot of us are saying, right? I. think you were even saying earlier. It's. like you have actual you have great. benefits for the football world within. what you guys have, especially with all. the information that you've garnered. with the platform that you have with. where you're at. So, it's like let's go. ahead and utilize that. Let's make. football better. >> Demo on me. >> Yes. >> J, any final thoughts here? This is kind. of your thing here. This is kind of your. your run.

>> I I'll hold my tongue. >> No, you do. Good stuff. Just stop doing. your [ __ ] player grades, man. >> Hell yeah. Well, >> team on three. One, two, three. All. right, let's move along. Other things. that need to stop. We need to have. >> great turf everywhere. Football's. happening. Okay, I can't take it. anymore. >> We're in 2025. We got super scientists. I watch how high how long ago they were. growing tree in their dorm room. >> This won't make you smarter. This won't. make you you happier. This won't do. this. The green thumbs of people these.

days, okay, higher than it's ever been. They're growing everything everywhere. And somehow we can't get good turf in. these NFL stadiums. Now obviously there. are some places that are fantastic. Pittsburgh, the artist formerly known as. Hinesfield. Now Acer has been. notoriously terrible with obviously. stories of them spray painting dirt and. mud green so that on TV it appears as if. it is grass. But it's even worse than a. situation like this happens with one of.

the best kickers in the history of the. NFL. One of the most shorefire kickers. in the NFL. he's on your team and. obviously the entire tarf rolls up on. top of his foot. Could have rolled his. ankle, could have sprained it instead. Uh Akasherfield said, "Don't worry about. it. You won't roll it because you have. to get stuck. We're just going to slide. right underneath the ball." Obviously. doesn't hit a clean ball there. So, whenever you see this type of [ __ ]. Jage, what are your thoughts? I I don't. know where you were on the hashtag. change the turf. Is that what it was? I. don't remember what the hashtag was. Whenever it was like turf versus grass, you've been on the record of saying to. us like, "Hey, I've gone to some of.

these soccer games where they put the. grass on top of the turf. That shit's. not the greatest either. What are your. thoughts on what's going on in. Pittsburgh and what are your thoughts on. the turf thing kind of as a whole in the. NFL that kind of we revisit every I. don't know 15 months or so? >> Yeah. I mean, my first thought when cuz. you could tell that this field was. deteriorating throughout the course of. the game. We were there, we were calling. the game and you could tell and we had. stuff ready because we thought that. something might happen like this just. witnessing it. Um, and my first thought. was, well, this is an anti- turf ar or.

anti-natural grass argument because you. obviously have the whole turf argument. going. Um, but I also know that the. Steelers, they had already planned to. switch the field out after this game. I. think they switch it out three times. throughout the season. Um, but I think. Tone's touched on it before, many people. have. This is what happens when you have. natural grass that far north and you. have Pit playing on it in addition to. the Steelers playing on it. I completely. understand that the Steelers don't own.

the field and everything, but like this. is a multi- multibillion dollar business. here and these are the assets of the. business and I I understand everything. that goes into everything, but that had. a chance to hyper extend his knee in a. very bad way. We saw Miles Kilbur go. down earlier. You don't know if that's. directly correlated to that or not, but. I at the end of the day, I think players. still would prefer that their foot slide. like that to give them a chance versus. the turf where it gets stuck. Um, but.

that that field was really really bad. And it's very rare you see players like. Aaron Rogers and Cam Hayward come out. and just blast their own home field the. way that they did after the game. >> See, Aaron Rogers obviously knew there. thinking to himself probably with how. high he has held the Pittsburgh Steelers. in his mind. So the way Aaron has always. talked about the Steelers, Pittsburgh, everything has always been like in very. high regards. Like McCarthy being his. coach in Green Bay and McCarthy still, you know, he's got pictures of. Greenfield behind him in his office. Like Aaron knows Pittsburgh, has been. around Pittsburgh, has always held the.

Steelers in high regard. It's AFC Green. Bay Packers is basically how he's always. talked about the Steelers. So I assume. whenever he gets on that field and it's. like that, he's like, "This is not. >> Yeah. >> This is not like what. >> Lambo's immaculate every Yeah. like he's. probably mind-b blown, I think, but also. saying like this is not how it's. supposed to be. You guys are like the. this is the franchise. This is not how. this is supposed to go. And I saw a lot. of people, Tone Diggs included, talk. about the Pit Field and Ben Rothosberger. said on football and the same exact. thing. He said they need to build like a.

35,000 stadium uh uh person stadium in. Oakland a little bit. Gonna be tough to. find that room, I think, in the city. It's going to be difficult to do that, but a lot of people have been saying get. pit their own stadium even though the. city owns it. And then a lot of pit. people are saying we didn't have a game. for like eight days before that. So why. are we what are we what are we weren't. even playing there? Let's go to hammer. time. Tone, you've been taking it on the. shins pretty good. I think a 48-year-old. in Robinson went after you pretty good. And then obviously that spurred some. other conversations around Pittsburgh,

but then Ben Rothersburgger comes out. and kind of echoes your sentiment. You're not the only one. How do you feel. right now about what the the is possible. for the future of the city of Pittsburgh. with their stadium setup? And how are. the shins after the 15,000 20,000 people. that go to every game took out their. broomsticks and hit you on the shins? >> Yeah, I uh I fired off that original. tweet that Foxy put up or put up in the. moment there. Um and Pit has always been. the easy target as far as firing shots.

at the field. Yes, I know they lease it. with the Pittsburgh Steelers. Neither of. those places own it. Um, and then I did. fire off some other tweets after that. after I started getting attacked cuz I. am not really good at, you know, just. letting it go and not going cutthroat at. places. Um, so yeah, they got upset. The. shins took it quite a bit. That's fine. That's going to happen or whatever. All. I want is like, yes, I know it's north. of the Mason Dixon line and they share. it together, but like there's other. places that share um fields with college.

football teams. I believe the Eagles do. it uh and others and and their grasp is. fine. I'm really just frustrated. Like. figure it out cuz if Bos would have got. hurt there, >> that's that's an absolute like disaster. And in that city, I just hope everyone. realizes what the pecking order is and. it's Pittsburgh Steelers and then it's. everybody else. So, if it's going to. help the Pittsburgh Steelers, yeah, I. think you should uh only play Steelers. games. >> On that note, I think some Pit fans. really turned heel thinking that they. were more important than the Steelers on. the internet. I I saw I saw some of. that. So they kind of worked themselves.

into a shooting, brother. So they they. they kind of went into a circle, but I. think all we all want is just a perfect. setting and environment for great. football. >> Is this not the NFL? >> This is this not the highest level? >> It's pinnacle. >> Hey, you're talking about Boswell. getting hurt. TJ's making 40ome million. a year. Miles Garrett's making $47. million a year. If Aaron Rogers first. ballot hall of famer, if any of those. guys get hurt because of the [ __ ]. that story is obviously magnified. Boswell having that happen, it's a. kicker. That's one of the greatest of. all time right there. Like that that.

kicker Boswell is one of the greatest. >> There weren't people putting pit up. ahead of the Steelers. >> They were acting like it, bro. They were. acting like it. >> I mean, I've turned down a few pit games. in my day and seen those yellow seats. All right. >> Screaming. They're screaming at you. through the screen. You know, >> wrong with the good program. Good. program. Great history. I've turned on. those games and I've seen the yellow. seats. >> Yeah. You can hear the yellow seats with. your eyes cuz it's in a quad box and. it's just like the whole thing. I've. heard people even describe it as those.

yellow seats are spitting through the. screen cuz you see because they're so. loud. Like if it was if it was black. seats or something like that or blue. seats, I think it would just kind of. blend in. The fact that it's yellow, it's like we see everyone like we we see. it all. And I'm not saying that PIT. doesn't have their diehard fans of the. University of Pittsburgh. I think people. would die for the University of. Pittsburgh. There is. >> they got them. >> There is Pit. There are those types of. people. Now, I do think not a lot of. them have the opportunity to go to the. football game still because we all, just. like Jade said, we all have eyes. We. watch the game. But now, if that field's.

perfect, nobody cares about anything. So, let's figure out the grass. >> Exactly. Let's figure out the grass. Why. doesn't your dad go down there and. figure out the grass? How's he on a lawn. mower? He's got a Zturn down there. We. got to make this thing go ahead and tie. in. >> He should because he hates Pit as much. as he loves the Steelers. >> All right. Uh, let's go to the next. conversation. Uh, speaking of injuries, I don't know what I'm talking about. We. had four very serious injuries in the. Indianapolis Colts game. One, including. a neck on a special teams return where I. believe the guy got released from the.

hospital later in the night. So, we're. very thankful for that. That was scary. in real time. Uh, but obviously Mooney. getting hurt in a pregame warm-up, Anthony Richardson gets hurt doing a. band exercise, and then Marvin Harrison. got concussed right in front. I mean, it. was there's a lot of. >> What are you guys doing pregame in. Indianapolis? What is going on pregame. in Indianapolis? >> Good question. >> We don't know. We're winning. I know. that. But I I I think we should dial it. back a little bit because we can still. win without losing guys in a pregame. warm-up as they're running little snake.

>> Oh my. It looked like he put a shoulder. into him. Like I don't I don't really. understand that right there. >> No, he was in the middle of doing his. thing. >> Trying to tried to avoid him last. He. was doing his thing. Yeah, right. Our. team's tight, bro. Don't think about. that. Don't talk about that. He was a he. he felt terrible about as well, you. know. So, what's that? He's. >> He tried to scoot his He tried to scoot. out of the way. He slid He slid his butt. a little bit out to the side. I got the. Colts this weekend. I'm going be. watching those pregame warm-ups. >> Close. >> Okay. >> Going to see what's going on out there. Thanks for keeping an eye on it, J. We.

need you to do that. We need to keep an. eye on it. >> On the pregame warm-ups for you. >> On that note, what was your routine? Did. you do pre pre workout uh warm up? Um, >> yeah, I did the pre- pre, but I kept it. I did it way too hard early in my. career, so I learned to back the pre-. pre down. >> and ramp up the pre. >> You were doing. >> You do the pre- pre, you get too. excited. >> Do you remember what he became in the. pre- pre? JJ Watts playing catch with. every kid in the city. >> Yep. >> Do you remember that? When did you start. doing it? Did you do that to save.

yourself from running all over the field. so you uh didn't wear yourself out. there? Like, I need to do something, but. I can't just run my life away here on. the field. Is that how that started? How. did you start that? >> Uh, it actually was a nice little. warm-up, but no, I started it because, so I grew up in Wisconsin, Green Bay. Packers fan growing up and I went to. training camp one time, literally one. time. They have open training camp and I. remember going to the players parking. lot after and standing outside the fence. and I had literally a white t-shirt and. I threw it over and hoping somebody.

signed it. Didn't even know who it was. probably a practice squad guy or. somebody signed it and threw it back to. me and I was like that was the coolest. thing of all time. And so in the NFL I. always try to find like that thing where. some kid is going to a game for the. first time ever and is going to have a. memory of that day. How can you make. that memory a special one? But you have. to keep it rolling. I couldn't sign. autographs for everybody before the. game. So I was like I'll play catch. like it takes one second for each person. and I can hit a shitload of people as I.

go around the stadium. So, I just make. one quick lap before I went in and uh. played catch with as many kids as. possible. >> I thought it was good for the game what. you did. I thought it was good for the. game. I And I like the fact that in. every city they were catching it and. throwing it back to you, you know, like. some of those places you throw it into. the stands and they hate you. They're. taking that thing, throwing it. backwards, backwards, backwards up out. of state, you know. So, the fact that. they didn't do that, I think that was. the tip of the cap to you as a person. But that pre preworkout that you were. talking about losing your mind during.

it's organized chaos out there. I don't. know how more injuries don't happen. after seeing this and it was uh right my. mom actually had eyes on it. My mom was. already at the game and she sent a text. to the group and then or to me and then. Debbone was at the game as well sent a. picture and my mom was like somebody. just got really hurt like really hurt in. warm-ups or whatever and it was like how. it's two hours. How how was there. anything happening? And we learned it's. one of our guys. And guess what happens? >> EBS cuz you're going backwards. >> and those like the punt returners where. they're like you don't know where that.

ball's going. You don't know what's. going on. Like those are the two to me. that are the ones that have the biggest. chance of getting hurt. And clearly here. was one of them debut. Did you did you. participate in this? Did you have to. like clear out 30 yards of space? Yeah, you just kind of know uh and the person. throwing the ball to you is kind of. responsible too in my opinion because. obviously they're leading you either. right or left, but you usually take a. peek back. You're not just out there. just blind. Um depending on what time, you know, depending on if it's home or. away, you will have, >> you know, the time you would go out. there and warm up, but you knew your.

kind of area of the field that would be. safe. This is It looks like Ogatry was. kind of coming kind of out of nowhere. off the sideline, but once again like. those I don't know if they're coaches or. trainers or or what they were, but they. are they got to be responsible too cuz. you don't want guys getting hurt in. warm-ups. Just like in practice practice. when shit's on the sidelines like you. know that one time, you know, first. second day of training camp is maybe at. loose helmet or loose pad on the. sideline and everybody just kind of. stops like. >> [ __ ] is going on now? So it's the same. thing with pregame. you can't let you.

know your big time corner get hurt. pregame. >> and there's no like designated places. for people but there's like unwritten. rules. It's like an interesting it's a. very it's a very interesting dynamic and. all I know is kickers and punters we are. lowest on the pecking order. So if we. find some space we definitely use it. Okay. If you're Justin Tucker and Travis. Kelce and Patrick Mahomes coming around. you just go ahead and get those balls. away from their feet cuz uh guess what? Go for the entire [ __ ] league here. and not to have these guys get hurt on. your kicking balls beforehand. I I just. like that to be known like that's where. kickers punters stand from. But we need.

that that's when we need that field cuz. for punters. >> were you ever the guy that went out and. like in between the cheerleaders was. practicing like right before the kickoff. or after halftime. >> No, I I I thought if you got in the. middle of there Okay, you were really. trying to work on something for me. I. thought mentally we could get some work. done on the side. Definitely hitting. while things are happening though at the. halftime show. Uh there was some. preseason game where it it had to be I. was punting in it. I forget what year it.

was, but the other team's backup punter. Okay. So, because you got preseason. backup punters. >> Oh, yeah. Yeah. I guess. Yeah. >> Guy uh I think he hit somebody that was. in the in the in the show. >> in the thing. Yeah. I got called in, asked about if I saw what happened, yada. yada yada. >> Oh, no. >> I was like, I did see what happened. Yeah. And that. >> Who called you in? Uh because it was at. our it was at our stadium and the email. that got sent was from apparent it was. like a band. uh contest or something happening in the.

city or something. >> High school band deal. >> Yeah. It was like a big deal and the. person that sent in the email was like. talked about how hard everybody on that. band field worked to get to that moment. and the everything that was put into. that and the sacrifice like really laid. it in. I mean it was it I was I was told. to read it. Why did I get this is what I. was told and I was like, "Oh, I saw it.". Yeah, it was not good. Yeah, it was it. was a shank completely. Like because in. those moments can't be shanking into the. if you're kicking, you know,

>> like I've I've done a punt, >> you know, halftime show, big halftime. show, and it's like you're really. rolling the dice every time, you know? It's like that's real pressure there. Let's see if we got just got out of the. [ __ ] locker room. A little chilly. here. >> Gallery. >> Got a hundred million dollar artist. right here. Okay, let's not hit a shank. left right now and just take somebody. off the thing. But you got to get your. work in too. Like I'm trying to do my. job too. Like I got to do my [ __ ]. >> You actually broke my finger prek. I. just remember. >> Well, that's on you, brother. That ball. was coming down from the clouds. Zoom in. right there. Just. >> Well, that's me.

>> Yeah, that's you. >> No. >> What happened? Middle finger, too. That's a good one. If I was get any of. them, I'm happy. Middle finger. >> So, I think backup punt return either. went down or was inactive. So, uh M mitz. came up to me and was like, "Hey, going. to need you today. Just back up punt. return, you know. Have you done it? No. Never. Can't return it. But sure, I get. out there and catch a couple. Yeah, go. catch a couple from Pat. My god. Then went in there. Had to just. splint it before the game.

>> Tough, man. I think it was before Rams. >> The game they killed us. >> Yeah. >> Oh man, >> that might have been Did you have the. halftime like military? >> Yeah. >> Yeah, that was a rough one. >> Yeah, that was a rough day. Yeah. >> Chris Long, >> I was bombing the ball though, man. That. one uh Tavon Austin took one back 90 98. that game. That was a perfect punt cuz. Tavon Austin takes it to the crib. >> I bet Karma for breaking my finger. >> You broke your finger. >> I didn't break your finger. That's on. you, brother. >> That's you. >> What What you think you were top six? Probably right hands on the team. >> Uh I was two I between two and three.

>> Yeah. >> Reggie. >> Go on. >> Um then probably me and Ty. Probably not. that come then. You were probably four, five. >> Okay. J, you know what? That's J. Okay. Shane Leckler hands on the team. What. What do you think his hands were? You. think they were top three, top five? >> No. No. No. >> Catches the ball every time he goes on. the field. Every single time he goes on. the field, he catches the ball. >> Yeah, it's put. We had John Weekes. tossing it back there. It was put.

exactly where he wanted it. The lace was. right where he wanted every single time. >> Weeks was an animal. Weeks is this tall. >> Weeks is. >> still playing San Fran. >> Still doing it. It's out there in San. Fran. >> Maybe what? 20. How many years is this? It's got to be. It's a lot. >> Jeez, he was unbelievable. >> Incredible. >> So smart. >> I I cannot believe that those guys can. snap the ball 14 yards and still decide. how many rotations to get the laces up. That blows my mind. >> That's unbelievable. If can do that, I. don't think there's a lot of people that. I mean,

>> your guy could. >> I had a couple different snappers that. were very good. Matt Overton snapped for. a very long time. He was incredible. He. was good with laces on field goals. before. >> Justin Snow was his name. So he actually. named his his kid Hunter. Okay. the. punter that was here for 11 years before. me, his name Hunter. So, the uh long. stepper and the previous punter, besties. We're talking best best. friends. And Hunter the punter was. beloved in Indianapolis. He was a very. good man. He he's a uh I believe he's a. religious singer. He has a Christian. He's a Christian rock band singer. Very.

athletic. Went to Notre Dame, I believe. I mean, you're talking about beloved. here in town. And then this dumbass gets. drafted in here. Just complete opposite. of this guy. I mean, just complete. opposite of this human being. I get a. public intoxication obviously my second. year. Hunter the punter. Yeah, right. This guy literally Notre Dame Christian. singer be loved in the community. We're. talking about going to hospitals every. single day like Mount T like Mother. Teresa type stuff. This guy the long. sniper names his kid after him. And then. I get draft to come in here just [ __ ]. animal. Justin didn't talk to me for. like six weeks. He the only time he.

talked to me like where was the snap? And I'm like I blacked out. I don't. know. >> And he's like he's like what's that? I'm. like I don't know. I don't know where. it's I don't remember. Sorry. I just. kind of go out there and do my thing. It. must have been good, I guess, because it. was a good punt. I don't even know. So, that guy hated me for a while, but then. we came Best friends. He was really. good. Strong, handsome guy. Long. snappers are an interesting job. Two. mistakes, you're fired. >> Yeah. >> All the time. Just looming. >> Yep. >> Two mistakes, you're fired. Weak, still. doing it is incredible. Speaking of. still doing it, two old guys are. battling in the AFC North. Kind of.

unexpected matchup here, but obviously. going to be a great one. Go ahead, Con. Man. >> Yeah, Jay. 2025, but feels like 2015. What are you thinking about the Rogers. Flacos? I believe someone, it might have. been Cam Hayward dubbed it the Icy Hot. Bowl during Rogers uh press conference. yesterday. What are you thinking about. tomorrow night? >> All right, Harry Potter over there. asking questions. Love. >> um I think this is it's going to be. interesting. Short week. Um you know, last week we had the Steelers and coming. off a buy Mike Tomlin's 14-4 against.

rookie quarterbacks. Mike Tomlin's 26-6. Uh, I believe if I'm not mistaken, his. Thursday night record specifically. against divisional opponents is not very. strong. >> 0 and6. >> Um, oh, >> is it really 0 and six? 0 and six. Not. very strong. >> in the division. >> Jeez. >> Yeah, that fits that category. But, um, >> I know Trey Hendrickson's possibly out. here. Brick Jones played a really good. game this past week with a very.

difficult assignment in Miles Garrett. Um, the Steelers just know who they are. right now. You can tell that they know. how they have to play these games and. win these games. They're going with this. XL personnel on offense with Spencer. Anderson stepping in, Darnell. Washington, and they just block well, run the ball, and then set up these. throws where Aaron's taken a ton of. underneath throws and then every couple. times throughout the game, he takes. those deep shots. That throw to Connor. Hayward was vintage Aaron Rogers. He's.

got the DK throws. Um, he missed one. super deep one to DK where DK had burned. uh the corner. So, they just know who. they are and how they have to win games. right now. And their defense has finally. started to figure it out after the first. two games where they struggled. Um, but. we all know how it is. Going on the road. is tough on Thursday night, even if it. is close like Cincinnati. uh the. Cincinnati offensive line, you know, it. feels like this is uh a short week and. you're not sleeping much knowing what's.

coming on the other side and how you. have performed thus far. Joey Flacker. though can get that ball out quick. You. know, PFF said it. You know, sometimes. quarterback can have a scheme that's so. much better than everybody on defense, even if they're winning their. assignments. Yeah. >> You know, because their assignment could. be go left and that's assignment. Check. the box. 100% on assignment. Ain't that. right? I mean, Joey Joey Flacco, he the. Ben the Browns have not scored over 17. points in 11 straight games. Joey Flacco. goes to the Cincinnati Bengals scores 18.

points in the first game. Like he he. he's like the the the throwing of the. we're we're calling that game and going. into the game both teams all week long. had said Quinn Sean Judkins is the key. to this game. He's a dynamic runner. Really can do everything. explosive will. run people over and then they throw the. ball 58 times. I think they got sacked. on six of them, so it looked like 52. Um, but they just didn't get the run. game going at any point. You have to you.

can't abandon the run. This game wasn't. really out of out of reach until like. the fourth quarter. I mean, maybe end of. the third, but they just were chucking. the ball all over the yard. And yes, I. know there wasn't a lot of success in. run game early, but for them to be. successful, specifically with a rookie. quarterback, you have to try and get. that run game going. And they just they. could not do it. >> It feels like everybody has to get the. run game going. It's 2025 football in. the NFL. There's two teams at the top. though right now. Okay. I don't know if. you know this, J. There's two teams that.

are 5-1. Pittsburgh Steelers 4-1 early. bye. They might become 5-1, but there's. currently two teams 5-1. Representing. the AFC, the Indianapolis Colts, of. course. Okay. Everybody knew that's how. that was going to be. whenever you. forecasted the season in training camp. after week six, the Indianapolis Colts. could be the number one seed in the AFC. You know, give us the Hunt trophy. Go. ahead. Go ahead and just give us the. Hunt trophy. It's great to be here, Jage, by the way. Thank you for asking. Indianapolis fans are very happy about. how we're playing in every miked up. thing that gets released. We're a cool. team, too. So, I mean, everything's. going good here. >> Good. I love I love the Daniel Jones.

miked up. That was great. >> Which one? The one where he's talking. >> Which one do you like better? >> I like I like both. I like At first I. saw the one where he wasn't talking. That was great. And then I saw the one. where he's talking. He just I I we have. them this week. I'm very excited. I. haven't been able to watch much of them. So this week watching the film, I was. really looking forward to seeing what. the Colts look like. And I've had this. thing in my head where it's like Danny. Dimes is managing the game. He's just. taking what's given to him. And then I. flip on the film and he fires this dart. into Alec Pierce in the red zone between.

three dudes. And I'm like, "Oh, he is. not just managing the game. He is. firing.". >> Brother, watch that Broncos game, dude. They listen like 73% of the time or. something like that. You're talking. about moving in the pocket, eyes. downfield and throwing seeds. Every ball. is a good ball. Every ball is the right. decision. It's like remember the string. that they went on at the beginning of. the season with no turnovers and just. touchdowns. Basically, they didn't punt. for like three weeks. I mean, it has. been very good very early with Shane. Stikens offense and Danny Dimes. And my. source says tell me that Danny Dimes.

lives in the building. He is in the. building. He's a 5Mer. So, he's in there. 5 a.m. and then he stays till the end. He's trying to build relationships with. everybody. Obviously, he's only on a. one-year deal with us. But everything. you want from a lead quarterback, he has. been. And I think if you ask the people. in Indianapolis, they're like, "We got. to go back and watch the film of him at. the Giants. What what we need to see if. there was, is this the same guy that was. at the Giants?" Because they believe. that he is the perfect guy. Like they. everything that was said about him, there were people on his side coming out.

of the draft like, "Hey, this guy worked. with Manning's people. He's more. athletic. He's smarter. He's tougher. He. can run faster." Y all those things he's. doing right now at his highest level and. I think the Colts people are like we got. so lucky that it did not work at the. other places and we're riding that wave. On that note, there's a team down in. Florida that's riding a wave of a guy. who didn't work in a couple other places. as well. Go ahead, AQ. >> Yeah, Tampa Bay is 5 and one. They. started the season without Tristan Worfs. and Cody Mock, the right guard. Then. they lose Gdki. Then they lose all of. their receivers. Chris Bucky Irving's.

out. Chris Godwin comes back. Then he's. back out. Right. Baker Mayfield has been. incredible. How is he able to keep this. team afloat? >> I love that. >> I mean, like a a his skills are. underrated like like like we I think we. put so much on his moxy and his persona. and everything that he has from that. standpoint that his his arm is great. Obviously, his ability to read the. defense to break him down, but his. ability to escape and to run and to just. do whatever it takes. And then once you.

add on the fact that he's just never. dead at any point in any game and he has. this like standing in the tuttle against. Seattle is such a great visual of him. and who he is. And when you have a guy. like that slinging it in your back. field, you just believe in yourself. more. The defense believes in themsel. more where they say if we get one stop. here and give it to him, he's going to. take us down the field and win the game. The receivers are catching balls that. they might not have caught before. O. lineman are blocking a little bit longer. and getting that extra little push.

There's just that that is very very real. and I think it's such a cool aspect to. his story what he had to go through in. the middle and obviously you wouldn't. want to have to go through those. Panthers years and all that stuff again. but to see what he's playing like now. after people wrote him off a few times. Guy's a baller. It's awesome. >> You think he's pre-workout guy. >> before game and halftime? He does seem like he could be, but then. if you also told me like no, he's just. like a pre-workout guy. Yeah, I could.

see that. >> Salts big time. He's definitely playing. with Zin in too. >> Okay. Yeah. Which has to that that's. Baker Mayfield experience. >> Like he feels like he's drinking beer in. the parking lot with the O line. Like. that's the type of guy he feels like. >> He feels like Gus Sees. The video that. the Buccaneers re put out of him being. dressed up as a super fan at one of the. workouts fantasy camps and throwing it. That is how he plays which I think is. why he's so beloved down there. I'm so. happy it is working for them. I can't. wait until they have their full fleet. Now, you aren't a full season into it. yet, but you've been doing a great job. calling games. Debut has a question for. you, JJ.

>> Yeah, JJ, going into week seven now, your new gig in the booth every week. Like, how how's it been? What's kind of. been the biggest, I guess, challenges, biggest surprises so far in the year uh. for you? >> Yeah, it's it's I love it, man. It's so. much fun because you're in the stadium, you get the adrenaline, you have no idea. what's going to happen on the field, and. you're just reacting live. Um, probably. the biggest changes for me have been. preparation during the week. Um, just. learning what I need to know and what I. don't need to know. Early on, I just it.

was an unbelievable amount of. information on my boards and I learned. that like some of the stuff was not. relevant and I didn't need it and I've. transitioned to adding more stuff that. is actually useful during the game. But. >> smart. >> being able to see trends, being able to. see how teams attack certain things. And. as a player, you attack the week and. you're watching one side of one. opponent. I'm only watching the offense. of the other team and generally mainly. the offensive line and just figuring out. how I have to attack them. For this, I.

have to watch both sides of both teams. So, it's more it's a lot more global. view of the game and trying to figure. out all these different aspects and how. they play together. and then making sure. you explain to the viewers in a way. that's comprehendable to them. Um, this. last game there were some really good. examples. Dylan Gabriel had thrown a. couple balls over the middle that were. caught, but his guys took big hits and. then they started to be looking at the. safety instead of looking back at the. ball and they dropped a couple because.

of that. And we had some really good. shots and I thought that was a really. cool thing to kind of be able to show. and talk about on the broadcast. >> Yeah, that's great. Anything that you. know you can show that people don't. normally see is a good thing. But also. you got to talk about what we're seeing. You know some of these booths become. super experts and talk about stuff. that's like super niche and it's like. how many people understand what the hell. you're talking about? I think you do a. great job of dumbing it down while. making it great. And it might be because. of just who you are and where you come. from. On that note, Ty has the last. question for you. >> Yeah, JJ. Uh look, I know you're a.

big-time entrepreneur. Okay. Mo, you. know, you own multiple soccer teams. I. saw a report on the internet. I don't. know if this is true, but it basically. just said, "Hey, if Luke Fickle is to. get fired at Wisconsin, JJ Watt has. already said, I will throw my hat in the. ring. I will go back to Madison and I. will help restore the Badgers to glory.". Uh, is there any truth to that? And can. we be expecting that? Because AQ already. said, "Hey, listen. I want to go coach. at Penn State.". >> Whoa. Whoa. Did he? >> Yeah, this morning. >> Did he? >> Yeah, this morning he said that.

>> Yep. Summertime. >> I mean, what James Franco was getting. paid, I think anyone would take that. job. No, that's not the we we wish James. Franklin his best. On that note, Jage, you own Burnley, you own Espanol. College is like professional sports now. Have you thought about dabbling? Maybe. maybe Penn State. >> The life of a college football coach has. absolutely no appeal whatsoever to me. I. like coaching football like the just the. pure on the field accident like helping. guys be better at what they do and.

create the best they can. But then you. add in all the meetings. You add in all. the hours and you add in recruiting and. the traveling and having to go to these. 17-year-old kids and be like, "Hey, you're the greatest in the world. Come. to our university." Then you add in the. NIL and the boosters and people coming. at you after the game. You didn't cover. the spread. What's going on? Like I. don't want to deal with any of that. [ __ ] man. You could pay me $50 million. and I don't want to go and do that. That's JJ1, living legend, saying.

there's no dollar amount on freedom and. happiness. So go ahead and find yours. Our happiness comes from talking to you. every week. You're the man. We'll be. back on the other side. Goodbye. >> But it is great to be down here in. Taton, Alabama. Now, let's do a little. history here, shall we? This is uh. what's your name? >> Gabby. >> Gabby, you're a senior here, right? >> That's correct. >> And what is your major? Chemical. engineering. >> Okay.

>> Okay. Uh, have you ever kicked anything. before? >> No. >> Okay. But you said you want to do it, not get somebody else because. >> because I camped out for so many hours. with my friend and I got lucky enough to. get picked. So, let's go for it. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> All right. >> We love that. $300,000 if you make this. kick right here, Gabby. Okay. >> Oh my gosh. That seems fair. >> I don't know what a chemical engineering. degree costs, but hopefully that'll help. towards it all.

>> My parents above that. >> I'll throw in 200 as well. >> He started to $500,000. [Applause]. [Music]. >> All right, Gabby. >> Okay, >> good luck. We're pulling for you. 33. yards. All you got to do is make the. kick. Good luck, Gabby. >> Okay. >> Any final thoughts? >> I love you, mom and dad and brother. >> Love that. Mom and dad, hope you have a. good time. Ladies and gentlemen, Gabby. Matthysse, chemical engineer, senior.

here at Alabama, will attempt to win. 500,000. [Applause]. >> It's come to this, huh? It's come to. this. >> It's come to this. >> Yeah, this Why'd you smack me in the. face? Kirk just smacked me in the face. How about this? How about this, Gabby? If Kirk Herbstreet can throw that. football through those uprights right. there, we'll give you $300,000. >> Are you okay with that?

>> 300,000. If Kirk Armstry can throw it. through those uprights, former Ohio. State quarterback. >> No warm up. Full suit for Deb. [Applause]. [Laughter]. Get it. Get it. Get it. >> Congratulations. [Applause]. >> All right.

It's getting even more pricey. Kirk Herb. Street, I did not know you had that in. you. You son of a [ __ ]. >> Oh, that's great. David, David, it's for you, your mom, your brother, the whole family. Congratulations. And Kirk, >> good on you, man. It was close. Back to. you, loose. Jeez, way to go, Gabby.

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with those. >> blue light no more blue light in the. brain get it out Okay, I like that play. I like that move because it does affect. you, I think. You know, definitely. there's uh there's nights because uh we. live on our phones. We all have to. basically because in the daily show. world, we have to know what's going on. everywhere. Yep. Okay. Try to at least. And whenever we get it wrong, we're. right in the fire because we're wrong. So, we try our best not to be. So, to do. that, you have to be on your phone a. lot. You have to be scanning a lot. You. have to be scouring a lot. You have to. be seeing a lot. You have to be doing. all that. There are some nights where I. put it down, I'm about to pass out, and. my entire head just feels like there is.

like an orb inside of it just like. that's going to affect us long term, I. assume, at some point. Cuz the blue. light glasses, they had their quick run, remember? >> Cuz they were It was almost like those. little wristbands that uh they sold back. in the day that Puka brought up to us. >> Oh, yeah. >> Tease of peas. But but the the. wristbands back in the day, a little bit. of a hustle, that's where it felt like, hey, you need to wear these uh you need. to wear these blue light glasses. You. need to wear these blue light glasses. You're going to go blind. You're going. to go blind. And everybody just stopped. doing it. I still think they serve a. pretty vital purpose. Yeah. And if. that's what those are, you look very. cool in those glasses. They got good.

shapes in them. >> But yeah, it was more so just like 12. years of one a day contacts. Like I was. just done with it. And then I thought. about. >> You were doing one a day contact. >> for 12 years. Yeah. So I was at the. point where I just I couldn't do it. anymore. And then, you know, I went to. the eye doctor. They, you know, I asked. I inquired about some glasses and they. they told me, "Hey, the fivestar. treatment, they got blue light. They got. the whole the whole nine, the whole. kitten kaboodleoodle. Never actually had. a fitted pair of glasses." So yeah, it's. nice. >> I think they look cool. I think it's a. good pair of glasses. It's I assume you. feel better, too, because you have to do.

it. >> Sleeping much better. Like my whole life. is better. >> Imagine it's stabbing yourself in the. eye every single day with contacts is. crazy. I never did that when I had. contacts. I left them in I don't know, two years or so. Turns out your eyes get. real swollen and they get really worried. about you after surger I would not. recommend that. I would not recommend. that to anybody. Nine-year NFL vet. Darius Jay Butler's here. Can't wait for. everything DB. Good D bad D. And 12ear. NFL vet Super Bowl champion player. Coach AQ Shipley's here. We're going to go in the trenches and. maybe get some takeaways here in a. matter of moments, but we need to head. to an attic in Ohio. College football.

national champion, Super Bowl champion, Rder Cup winner, ladies and gentlemen, AJ Hawk. >> Yeah. Hawker. >> Hawker, how you doing, pal? >> I'm good. I didn't uh I thought the blue. light glass were out. Didn't they prove. that those things don't do anything? >> Well, that's what I'm saying. It was. kind of like the wristband. It kind of. came through going to save your life and. then it keeps you moving. Now, I don't. know if the blue light glasses will stop. my head from feeling the way it does. when I stare at my phone for too long, especially in the dark at night. But uh. it feels like it's part of the fivestar. package that's currently sitting on. Connor's face right. >> Yeah. Yeah. Who proved it? Was it the. FDA or the WHO or was it one of those.

companies? We definitely question. there's going to be stats from both. sides on that which is once again. another thing that we have to try to. figure out is we're a daily show. Lucky. to do it. Thankful to do it. Speaking of. daily shows, we could kind of sense that. maybe the PFF wave was rolling in a a. certain direction. Now it's always had. its detractors. I mentioned this a. couple different times. always had. people against it. Most notably the. people that have played at the highest. level or coached at the highest level, seemingly the most against it on a. regular basis because you're making up a. definitive number about things that are.

not definitive. You have no idea what. actual rankings could be. But PFF. saying, "No, we're just trying to give. general audience a general idea of what. it is." Well, it's like you're changing. lives. Chris Long's take was hysterical. We're we're talking about legislation. about what kids need to be seeing in. school. We don't need kids seeing that. Patrick Mahomes 13 out of 32 as you're. incredibly blurry. Maybe you need to get. some fivestar package over there on your. screen or on your camera. We need to. call you back. We'll certainly call you. back. You're going to have to reset that. thing. AJ, I was excited to get his take. on it because AJ sent a text in.

>> Yeah. >> In the middle of our argument and says. you can't win an assignment. He feels. the exact same way as everybody else. does. We'll get back to that with AJ. Let's head over to Hammer Don. Don AP. Tone. Listen, college ball is heating up. and it feels like we had the biggest. road win of the season. AP put out their. top 25 on Sunday. Stanford Steve put out. his top 15, I believe, yesterday and you. now officially going to be putting out. your college football playoff prediction. as we sit after week seven of college.

football. Is that accurate, Tom? >> Yeah, I figured at the halfway point. this was probably a good time to do. this. I I uh saw that everyone was. putting out their, you know, top 25s and. stuff like that. That's all fun and. good. This is what really matters. The. playoff and the playoff bracket and. what's gonna happen here is what is. really matters at the end of the day. So, yeah, I wanted to put one out. >> And how do you feel? What is the. storyline of yours? Obviously, your. number one team is Ohio State. Number. two team ACC champion Miami. SEC. champion, number three seed in Alabama. Number four seed's the Big 10 CH.

runnerup in Indiana. They make it to the. Big 10 finals and lose and still get a. buy because they're ranked in the top. four. Yeah, I Ohio State is clearly. looks like the best team in the country. and they're defending national champion. So, at this point, it's hard to predict. any losses for them. And then IU, if you. look at the schedule, there's a real good chance that they win. out as well. So, I figured if they both. get to the Big 10 Championship game as. undefeated, obviously the winner would.

be number one. And then I have a hard. time dropping the loser, an undefeated. regular season loser, and punishing them. for losing the Big 10 championship game. out of getting a buy. So that's why IU. would go from they'd probably be two or. three before the game and then drop to. that four seed. >> Congrats to Texas Tech with a huge win. in their conference. USF is the power. five that makes it in at 12. Notre Dame. sneaks in, but much debate though. You. in your mid-season college football. playoff prediction here, you didn't put. what conversations led to Notre Dame.

making it in. Was it massive debate? How. loud did it get before they made it in? >> Well, obviously there is a huge one this. weekend between Notre Dame and USC, which is an absolute mustwin for Notre. Dame because after this, the schedule uh. is not super tough. So, if you win this. weekend against USC and win out, it's. very very hard to leave out Notre Dame. with their two losses would be to Miami. who's potentially undefeated at that. point in the season. And then&m who I. put at six instead of three because in.

this situation I had them losing to. Alabama in the SEC championship. So if. you lose if your only losses are to. Miami and&m obviously a big one this. weekend for them and SC I have a hard. time leaving Notre Dame out. >> Notre Dame the road looks clearer and. clearer every single day. Obviously that. road can become a fast pass to the. playoffs if they beat USC. I was not a. believer. I thought they were going to. be dead whenever it started the way it. did. But now with how we see A&M doing. to your point and how Miami is doing, those are not bad losses to actually.

have on the old resume. They just so. happen to happen early. Congrats to Old. Miss and Georgia where we're heading. this uh this weekend making it in there. Obviously, you're not giving anything. away there. Tennessee Hypo's team. rolling. Congrats to them. Oregon out of. the Big 10 makes it in in the final spot. in your eyes. Well, the final spot's. USF, but you get it in the bracket. And. then in the hunt there, I can't help but. notice a few teams. You know, I see Utah. there. Don't see BYU in the hunt. BYU. plays Utah this weekend. BYU undefeated.

currently. Utah has one loss. Says. Utah's in. So, it sounds like Tone. doesn't think BYU's winning a holy war. That's what I noticed from your college. football playoff prediction here, Tom. >> Yeah, I might have showed my hand a. little bit on that one for this weekend. I do like uh the Utes over BYU. I just, you know, I like Dampier and Utah and. and Whittingham over a freshman. quarterback in BYU in his first holy war. in that situation. Then Utah would have. to then win out. Um, because, you know, there's not going to be a lot of Big 12.

games in there, uh, or Big 12 teams in. there, I should say. Um, and then the. other ones, you know, when I like went. through and I looked at the schedules, it's like LSU, Oklahoma, Missou, Texas, Vandy, those SEC teams, like they're. they got them around 9 and three. Like, are they going to get in at 9 and three? There's the question mark. Georgia Tech. is undefeated. So, but Georgia Tech is a. dog at Duke this weekend. So, like, is. Georgia Tech going to slip up? They. still have Georgia on their schedule. They have an ACC championship on their.

schedule, but obviously if they keep. winning and win out, they're going to be. in. There's just a lot of those SEC. teams in the hunt. They have a far. tougher schedule than Tennessee and. Georgia and Miss. That's why I had those. SEC teams sneaking in. The other SEC. teams that have to play five ranked game. in a row. I have those ones out strictly. because of it's going to be hard to. navigate those waters. >> Five SEC teams is what tells you. one. ACC team, one Big 12 team, one. independent, one power five, which.

leaves what? Three left there for the. Big 10. And uh I think the Big 10 people. would say our top three, we feel good. about running any of them. Is that right. what the Big 10 feels? >> Yeah, I would assume so. You're you're. thinking that I mean, especially with. Indiana now, it's like, hey, who who's. to say that Indiana might not be in the. championship with a good shot to win it? And then I think everyone thinks Ohio. State is the best team in the country. right now. And then if Oregon is kind of. just like your throwaway, you know, hey, Oregon's there, they might win might win. too. Like it doesn't matter if they get.

four teams in because they have a very. good chance of potentially winning a. national championship with any of those. three teams that, you know, could. potentially get in. >> Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, from Ohio is a Ohio State. representative. Has a tree on their. campus. He's a college football national. champion, a Super Bowl champion, a. runner cup winner, and maybe he's in. focus. Ladies and gentlemen, focus on. this man, AJ Hog. Oh, look at that. Focus. So fresh and so. clear. Clear. I appreciate you doing. that for us. A nice little reset. Tone's. mid-season college football playoff. predictor here has the Ohio State.

Buckeyes sitting in number one. Congrats. on another Big 10, AJ. >> Congrats on another Big 10 championship. over there. >> Yeah, we we appreciate being number one. We know it doesn't matter right now, but. just everyone just getting into the. dance. It's all that matters. It's. getting to the dance and everybody's got. a shot. Five SEC teams, three Big 10. teams, obviously Power Five, Big 12, and. ACC represented as well. Your thoughts. on that, AJ, and how loud that's going. to be at the end of the year? Because. the back-to-back national champions are. Big 10 uh teams, I assume there's going. to be some record that is going to be. talked about as Big 10 teams, but.

whenever Penn State, no offense, AQ. >> Okay, >> thanks. None taken. >> When Penn State does what they do, they're supposed to be a good game. >> Not good. >> Michigan, they're supposed to be a big. game. That's supposed to be a ranked. game. A lot of these Big 10 teams were. supposed to have actual ranked games. down the stretch. Now there's like none. of them. So we're going to learn nothing. really about the top teams in the Big 10. until Ohio State Michigan obviously. going to matter. But the SEC, they're. going to beat each other up, AJ. They're. about to beat each other up pretty good. I mean, they're all playing each other. So the debate before this comes out,

whenever the actual one comes out, it's. going to be gruesome. I mean, it is. going to be very, very loud and toxic. AJ. >> Oh, it is. We I mean, hey, Coach Sabin. came on here and said like he was. talking about how deep the SEC is. I. agree. The SEC is very deep. Well, let's. see what happens once the playoffs. start. Let's see if when they go. headtohead, what happens? Can the Big 10. uh prevail again when it comes to when. you do have to play in some elements and. everything? It all changes, I think, towards the end of the year. >> Well, what's the weather going to be. like for college football in Oregon?

>> In Oregon, is that the only cold game. that's on Tones graphic here? >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> Eugene get really cold? Gumps. I assume. that gets very cold up there. Is that. accurate? You're from Pacific Northwest. area. >> Well, cold, but not as cold as it was in. Ohio State that night. It won't get that. cold on the West Coast. >> So, it's closer to Alaska. It's more. north. >> More more rain though than snow over. there. >> I don't think I understand why it's not. more rain than snow. >> January, it's normally highs of 48 and.

lows of 34. >> Oh, that's perfect football weather. >> Wow. >> That's perfect. Tennessee learned from. last year. Yeah. Yeah, and that's going. to feel like a cakewalk compared to what. it was last year. Tone, we appreciate. the time and the effort, >> pal. Thank you. >> Uh let's go back to what we were chit. cchatting about before you uh were. getting throttled over there potentially. by the Ohio based company that was in, you know, kind of question PFF. What are. your thoughts on the reaction currently? There's always been a little bit of a. negative narrative by players and. coaches and people that really really. know ball about PFF kind of giving a a. broad not so accurate potential ranking.

on people and humans and changing their. lives and maybe value. But then there's. also the point being made there's people. in rooms that are making decisions that. are using this PFF stuff as well. AJ, how do you feel about it all and how do. you feel about the chatter that's taking. place around it right now? >> Yeah, I mean I think it's two different. things. First of all, PFF what they do. with stats and all that, that's great. Like that's awesome. That's a resource. for people to look at. And when you're. grading players though, that's a. different story. I mean, I I just think. we don't know. Obviously, Chris Long. nailed it 100%. He spot on. Everything.

he said is true. I'm like, yeah, it just. it makes so much sense when you hear it, but I I just remember it makes me think. of a play. So, Champ Bailey was playing. for Denver. Our one of our defensive. coaches showed the whole defense this. play. I believe it was a na like a. national televised night game. And it. shows it looks like Champ Bailey is. getting beat deep. He's like trailing. three or four yards behind a dude on a. deep ball. Guy scores, whatever. And. people think Champ Bailey's lost the. step. He's done. He should retire. And. my coach was showing us and he he was. explaining the coverage to us because I. think he even called and talked to their.

defensive coordinator about what. coverage they were in. And Champ was. being a great teammate and trying to. slough off and help his buddy. Like I. think the safety dropped a dude or. jumped down on a on a 12- yard dig or. something when he had to cover him deep. Champ decides, sees it happening, comes. over the top and it looks like Champ. gets beat deep and I think even the. commentators on TV are talking about it. and our coach was tell like hey like. Champ was being a good teammate trying. to cover up for another guy and he get. and now people think the guy can't even. play football anymore because we don't. know what the responsibilities are. We.

don't know the assignments. And it's. true like I don't if it when I'm when I. was on the Packers, if someone on. offense ran a wrong route or did. something, I have no idea. I had no idea. what he was supposed to do that unless I. come over and I talk to him after he. gets off the field. Like even players on. their own team don't know whose. responsibility certain things are at. times. >> Yeah. I have no idea what anybody's. doing out there. I was in meetings I was. in the meetings listening to it. It's I. I I just to put kind of a bow on this. entire thing because we've certainly. attacked it from all angles and maybe we.

were seizing the opportunity to do as. such because we've kind of been on this. for a few years now because it's mostly. playerdriven show. So a lot of players. seemingly have the same exact feels. about this. JJ Watt, who's the best. player in the history of PFF, has the. same exact feeling as we do like, hey, >> broke the system. >> Enough of this stuff. Your system wasn't. even good enough to be able to track how. great I am. Okay, so how are you going. to be able to track how good anybody is. in this entirety? I think we're at the. point now where PFF doesn't have to do. us anymore is kind of what we're saying. Congrats PFF. You gotten to a great. spot. Yeah. Just like they said the the. Miles Garrett ranking was a compliment.

to the Pittsburgh Steelers. Everything. we've said to you here has been a. compliment to you. You've gotten to a. point where you don't have to do this. [ __ ] anymore cuz all this does is just. kind of undercut everything else you do. because the people in the football world. don't take you serious. And the people. that do take you serious don't know. football, but they don't know that they. don't know football. And sometimes. they're in football positions and we. need you not to ruin that. Okay. PF, that's a powerful tool you have. So, please take care of it and we appreciate. you. Compliment. >> Imagine if they do it in other sports. Imagine if like prime time NBA games and. they pop up the starting lineup and it. gives you their rankings in the NBA from.

like or say the NHL. I don't know a. whole lot about hockey. And if I see a. guy is, you know, 88th out of 100, like, oh, this guy stinks. And then you talk. to a hockey person, actually that guy's. a stud. Like that. I can see how people. get swayed by that. >> I believe it's called NBA Twitter now. >> Oh, yeah. NBA Twitter would be awesome. if there was rankings for every player. up there. Look at Halle Burton ass. >> ranked 55th in this entire thing and. then he hits gamewinner at the end of. it, you know, because rankings and stats.

can kind of go however they want. Baseball, what would be Hey, there's. baseball happening right now, right? Last night was a huge night in baseball. with a a player that we certainly know. well from around the program because we. had a holiday party, a Christmas party a. few years back where his name was. certainly mentioned and then trending. worldwide because of something that was. said from our our Christmas party. But. baseball doing it last night. >> Yeah, big time. Uh Dodgers and Brewers. and the the guy you're talking about. Um, yeah. I unfortunately a couple years. ago at the holiday party got a little. boozed up as we all did and I basically.

said, "Hey, listen. Yoshobu uh Yamamoto, he's it's a done deal. He is signing. with the Yankees. He is leaving Japan. He is the golden goose right now and he. will be it's done. Nine years, $326. million. >> And the terms, >> uh, I had the terms. I had sources. telling me that actually Godzilla. Matsui, uh, one of the greatest Yankees. of all time, who is also Japanese, helped push it over the goal line. And, uh, just kind of the cherry on top, that. Yoshi would be keeping the number eight.

>> Readers added context. Just want to let. you know. >> Yeah. So, I put this out there and boy, I don't know, maybe 45 minutes, hour. later, uh, he signed with the Dodgers. He he signed with the Dodgers. that. community noted not until after the. signing with the Dodgers though there. was a 30inut period where Tai Schmidt. was the biggest baseball insider on. earth and I'll tell you what there might. be some benefits to that there were. certainly a lot of negative as well. including Jeff passing calling our. Christmas party facetiming me answering. and Tai in the back and Jeff going what.

are you doing and so I go. >> that was literally what he did over my. shoulder literally as I'm facetiming he. goes like this he goes you don't know. maybe is what Ty said I And Jeff goes, "No, I do know. That's not what. happened." Ty goes, "You don't know.". And then Ty just walks away. And Jeff is. like, "Hey, he's wrong. You know that?". And I'm like, "Yes." I mean, I didn't. know he sent that out. We're all pretty. boozed up here. And boy, the action that. that got. I mean, you were. >> Yeah. That thing spread like wildfire. >> You were around the world of baseball.

pretty quickly. I mean, you took a jet. engine around the world baseball. People. were heralding you. This guy, the new. guy, this is a new insider. >> Yeah. Yankees fans really wanted him. I. really wanted him, which was, you know, partially part of the reason. He did end. up signing 12 years, $325 million with. the Dodgers. So, I had the numbers. >> You were three years off. >> I had the contract, but I had the I had. the total value, which is really all. you're looking for cuz you know. >> what you just pulled that from your. head, drunk head. >> Pretty much. Yeah. >> And we learned a lesson that day. We. can't be doing it now. People take us. serious. >> Yeah. Exactly. You know, about 5,000.

retweets later, you know, people they. they will see it and they will let you. know. >> I think even Ravi, Carl Ravage sent a. text like, "Hey, what does Tai actually. know?" It's like, "No.". >> Oh, no. Yeah. I mean, Jet said, you. know, like somebody from the Yankees. called like, who the [ __ ] is who the. [ __ ] is this guy? >> So, you know, I mean, sometimes it gets. away from you. >> and we like we try to learn from all. these things. At one point in our show's. lives, we could do that and everybody, haha, obviously this is not true. >> We have learned over the years. >> through a lot of trial and error, a lot. of error.

>> that there are things that we need to. navigate much better. Okay, we apologize. for that, but we are trying our absolute. best. Being the biggest baseball insider. on earth for one night, for one. 30-minute period was a fun little trip, though. >> I had to do it. And hey, listen. There. going to be a couple pretty good. Japanese players posted this off season. I might have to do it again. >> No. >> It didn't work out. >> I know it didn't, but it might work out. this time. That's kind of the. >> Did you know this, AJ? Uh, baseball in. Japan started in 1872 when Horus Wilson,

an English teacher, went over there. I. assume there was some sort of religious. reason to travel. to Japan 1872. I don't. even know how you get over there. I. don't know when the Wright brothers did. the thing in walked. >> Yeah. I don't I don't know. Wow. >> I don't know. It's so far away. I don't. even know how he takes the game over. there. And then obviously they become. massive fans of the sport and I think in. 1936 or something like that they started. a professional league. So Japan and. baseball have a very very deep history. But obviously with Showi doing his thing.

and more superstars coming over here. that's only going to grow I imagine. And. what happened last night I think is even. building the game and the team in Japan. I think tenfold after a performance like. last night. Right. >> Yeah. We can assume that that teacher. went directly to Bison Okyama Japan. which is where Yoshobu Yamamoto is from. Uh because it seems like a lot of good. players are coming from that region. Yeah, exactly. A real hot bed when this. guy South Florida Japan, right? Wasn't. that. >> is what a lot of people say. Yeah. um. and at the time when he got signed it.

was like hey this guy is going to be one. of the you know he's he's going to be. one of the next aces and uh he's been. good but then last night was really kind. of his coming out party for the Dodgers. Um so you know I mean if you want to. roll the clip Foxy here and we'll just. kind of you know real quick. Uh so. Yoshobu Yamamoto and there he is. I mean. we we can show everything else. Dodgers. hit a couple homers. This guy threw a. complete game last night. Um, yeah. I. mean, there's Tay Oscar Hernandez. hitting one out early, but you can. really stop it there, Foxy, and kind of.

just go back to the strikeout to the to. end the game. Yo, uh, Yoshino Yamamoto. threw 111 pitches. Uh, he gave up a. homer, his first batter of the game, and. then basically just mowed the Brewers. down. He's the first Dodger to throw a. complete game in the playoffs. There, there you go. Since 2004. So, like, we've been talking about this throughout. the playoffs. This stuff doesn't happen. anymore. And that's why you pay a guy. from Japan $325 million because in the. biggest moment he goes out and kind of.

just mows guys down. So, uh, we said it. a couple days ago, unfortunately, Brewers are going to need an absolute. miracle. Dodgers are the best team in. baseball. I mean, you know, th this guy. is kind of just like an afterthought and. they're paying him $325 million and any. fifth day he can go out there and have a. performance like that. So, I tell you. what, if you're a Dodgers fan or you're. a Mariners fan, you're uh you're pretty. jacked up. You're pretty ecstatic today. because boy, it feels like, you know, in. the biggest moments right now, both. these series are kind of over. Both road.

teams uh won both took two leads, the. Mariners and the Dodgers, respectively. So, um yeah, I mean, we still have. baseball left. These are best of seven. series, but boy, >> looking real west coast, huh? LA, Seattle, >> looking real west coast right now. >> I hope Big Dumper is able to finish the. story and then obviously show and the. boys being able to do their thing, especially in Kershaw's last year, right? >> Yeah. Kershaw's last year. >> Show how he playing. >> Uh he hasn't been great at the plate. I. believe he's batting like 143 right now.

But uh I mean it doesn't matter. You. know, last night he he gets an RBI. single to kind of pad the lead a little. bit. Uh but that's the thing about the. Dodgers. Like when you spend, you know, like $8 billion on your roster, like. yeah, you'd like the MVP to come. through, but guess what? You got another. MVP behind him and another MVP behind. that guy and then an all-star behind. him. >> So that's why I like the Pirates. Next. year we have a chance. >> uh. >> big time. >> Yeah. If you know what. >> back to Japan. >> if you can either walk back to Japan. maybe. >> with Horus Wilson like it's 1872.

>> some of these posting fees they're going. to need to spend a little money and you. expect you hope skins is the same guy. and then you basically go into the. clubhouse and you say all right you. seven guys need you guys to take. steroids. >> and I need you guys to take steroids. right now. >> and get on multiple cycles over the next. how six to eight months and then you. guys will be different players come. opening day next year. So you you batted. 198 next year. You start taking steroids. right now and you get on a cycle and you.

just keep doing that and then guess. what? We we we flipped a 196. batt. >> This is not a real This is not a We just. talked about this with Yamamoto. >> No, I know. But unfortunately that is. that is the only way the Pirates will be. able to win. It's the only way because. they're not going to spend a bunch of. money. Um and they just, you know, they're just kind of always going to. stink. So that that is basically what. you're looking at. >> You. >> Yeah, you seven guys. All you guys. >> a lot cheaper. Lot cheaper, right? It. >> is a lot cheaper. It is a lot cheaper.

If. >> you get suspended, there's going to be a. lock out in 2027 anyway. >> Hold on. We're just getting good. So, >> we got barbarians stepping into the. batter. That's not a bad idea. And I'm. sure our guys, it's Pittsburgh, will be. able to get around the test. Hey, >> just kind of wrap up the Dodgers and. Yamamoto pitching the entirety of the. game. Dodger starting pitchers in. postseason. from Hembo. In 2024, they. obviously won a World Series, 5.25 ERA. for the starting pitchers, they pitched. 42% of the innings. Starting pitchers in. 2025, 1.54 RA, and they're pitching 71%.

of the innings. So, they're going longer. and throwing better this year than they. were last year. >> Yeah, correct. And that's a big deal. because that uh if you wanted to nitpick. the Dodgers going into the playoffs, it. was like, hey, you you get to the. bullpen. If they can get these starting. pitchers out, their bullpen is kind of. in flux right now and not as good. But. that's why they went out and, you know, North Carolina legend Blake Snell, that's why they paid him a bunch of. money because when you can have starting. pitchers throw eight to nine innings in. the playoffs and you have the kind of. lineup that they have, it's going to be. virtually impossible to beat a team like.

that in a seven game series. >> At between the noms, Greg Harvey with. some great stats literally after every. single sporting event. I love the cut of. his jib. Hembo obviously keeping us. stocked and loaded every day with. numbers. We appreciate the hell out of. uh, you know, commentating on the. history of the sporting events that we. chat about. Let's go back to the NFL now. after week six of the uh NFL season. Had. a lot of magic happen. Two teams really. seemingly separated themselves. Two. teams really said that we're the best in. the whole damn league. Two teams said. we're doing this from the beginning to. the end. That'd be the Bucks and the. Colts. Now, we don't have to just talk.

about them forever. That that'd be too. much for us to do. That'd be a little. biased, wouldn't it, AJ? If we talked. about the Colts all the time, number one. seed in the AFC by all accounts and. maybe most complete team in the NFL. right now. Okay. So, don't we could talk. about them all day, right AJ? >> Yeah, we could. >> We don't want to do that though. But we. don't want to talk about them all day. because then we'd have to say things. like going into the season nobody. thought they were going to be good. Everybody thought they were going to be. ass. Colts fans online actually said. this team's going to be ass. Danny Dimes. being a starting quarterback ever again. was something that people would have. spit in your face of your take if you. were to say Danny Dimes might be in the.

MVP conversation in 2025 with the. Indianapolis Colts because we had the. opportunity obviously with AR and once. again we were believe ours coming into. the season and we can't believe our eyes. whenever we read things about what's. happening to AR whenever he's working. out trying to get better and the. building actually attacks his face like. that is obviously unfortunate. This. guy's been incredible. We could talk. about that all day. Michael Pitman Jr. gets into a fight. Danny Dimes actually. jumps in to fight with him. Goes, "Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. We're not doing that.". Danny Dimes on the sideline, high five. Quinton Nelson playing better football. than he's played in a long time. Might. just make an appearance in there. Jonathan Taylor is the best running back.

in the damn league. Best Let's go to the. leaders actually of this entire NFL. season thus far. Here's the rushers. Okay, here's the rushers. Jonathan. Taylor right now leading the league in. rushing. And we just had the year where. Saquon Barkley had what he had with the. Philadelphia Eagles win the Super Bowl. Top five rushers at this point. Jonathan. Taylor 63 yards. James Cook 537 yards. Bjon Robinson who's ranked number 19th. or something like that or 13th in. running back position in the entire NFL. from PFF. >> That is correct. He's getting really. dinged up for uh fumbling but not losing. fumbles but he's but he's fumbling.

>> or at least he did on Sunday night. So. he. >> they're calling this guy the MVP. They're saying he's the best football. player in the entire league. Our entire. offense runs through him. PF says middle. of the pack whenever it comes to running. backs in this entirety. Uh Javvante and. then Rico Daoell. The Rico act has been. tossed a couple different times. I don't. even think he's ranked by PFF. I I I. think Rico's. >> he was not in their top 16 from Sunday. and he once again had like 200. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. He was not a top 16. Yeah. So. there's a lot of things happening with. PFF right now. >> They actually had him listed as a tight. end I think on PF. >> Okay. So we don't know if that's true or. not, but top five rushers right there.

could be. >> Hey K, what are you seeing there? And. obviously we'll do your in the trenches. top five offensive line here in a little. bit. What do you see from this? And do. you think this is the way to win. football game? >> That's a pretty accurate list right. there. Jonathan Taylor's been fantastic. James Cook didn't get a touch in the. fourth quarter. probably need to go a. little bit more through him. Bejon, as. we've talked about, maybe the MVP, electric player. Javvante Williams, they've done a fantastic job revamping. their offensive line and run game. I. know they lost this last week. Rico Dao. has really come on. He's got 200 yards. rushing in the last two weeks. Incredible.

>> Yeah, it's been fun to watch Rico and. he's they warm buckled up though. Like I. love the way everybody for the Carolina. Panthers seemingly speaks and Bryce. Young included. They had a miked up. about Bryce Young whenever they were. down 17. He sounded like a 45-year-old. pro in there in his calmness and his. matterof factness and his like I want to. say his empathy for his teammates for. the moment while also right here's Bryce. Young while they're down 17 this past. weekend. >> Stay with me. Just stay with me. It's a. long game. Just stay with me. Stay with. me today. Let's go. I got your back, bro. Hey, keep going with me. I promise. we in a good spot. Keep going.

>> Here we go. Oh, here we go. >> Music. >> Let's get it now. One at a time. >> NFL. This where we finish. This always ours. This is where we finish. >> Yeah, it is. >> Let's go. Fourth quarter. This is where. we finish. Stay with it. We're right. where we need to be. Right where we need. to be. >> Into the end zone for a touchdown. And. he gives Carolina the lead. >> Great calls, coach. >> Hey. Hey, ball. Great job, man. Got your. back. Finish your song. Let's go. Set. from Carolina. >> Let's go. Hey. Four minutes. Four.

minutes. Let's go. Four minutes. Hey, we. finish right here. They don't touch the. ball. Yeah. Let's go. Let's go. A pass. interference and the Panthers just have. to kneel it. >> Let's go. Hell yeah. The best play in. football. >> Young takes the knee and the Panthers. make a statement. >> That's what I'm talking about. Yes, sir. >> Hey, that's what I'm talking about. >> Hey, maybe they got something down. there. >> Maybe they got something down there,

especially with the run and what their. offensive line's been able to do. Let's. go to the top wide receivers thus far as. we are week six into the season. Number. one, Jackson Smith and Jigba. He's been. special. Puka Naku, obviously, we heard. him give a speech to the team on the. sideline that was incredible. His miked. up stuff inside the NFL on X has been. phenomenal. I like that they're getting. stuff out there. Now, there's a lot of. other people saying, "We've been. stealing foots for so long, you know, feel bad for us." Uh, George Pickkins. obviously a whole new world out there in. Dallas without CD and Mecha Ibuka got.

hurt early for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. who obviously monitor that situation. and Jamar Chase who now has his third. quarterback of the season. He's at 468. Debbuts, what do you see from the top. five receivers in the league? >> Lee's in good hands when it comes to. pass catchers. Uh Seattle, they moved on. from DK, Jackson Smith, and Jacob. He's. been unbelievable since coming into the. league. Same thing with Puka moving off. Cooper Cup. Gave him the mantle. Uh you. got to have all these are getting great. quarterbacks throwing the ball as well. So you're going from Sam Darnold, you. got Matt Stafford and Dak getting the. George Pickings. He's been a great.

pickup so far. Ibuka, you heard BA. talking about, hey, if my rookies are. ready by Thanksgiving is great. He came. in. Hopefully, we get him healthy soon. And Jamar Chase been up here in this top. five with what's been going on at the. quarterback position over there is. absolutely tremendous. He'll he'll. produce regardless of who throwing him. the ball. So, uh, great great list right. here. >> Let's go to the top five quarterbacks. We want to talk about the leagues in. good hands. Uh, speaking of the ball in. hands, Matthew Stafford leading the. league. Dak Prescott at number two. Sam. Darnold with the Seattle Seahawks. Crazy. what's happened for Sam Darnold. Last.

year with Minnesota, now with Seattle, Baker Mayfield down in Tampa Bay, obviously the picture of uh picking. himself up and becoming the face of a. franchise, both him and Sam Darnold, both and Matthew Stafford, I guess, whenever he goes over to LA and just. becomes the face of that Rams team. And. then Drake May, the man out of North. Carolina who's already on his second. head coach and into his second offensive. coordinator and a guy who since the day. he got into a Patriots uniform, had. Patriots fans, at least the guy that we. know is a Patriot fan, saying, "We got a. guy. He's big. He's strong. He's fast. He rounds out a top five. AJ, what do.

you see from the top five passers in the. NFL thus far this NFL season? >> I think it's cool to see young Drake May. crack into this top five and Matthew. Stafford with the longevity that dude. has had and how long he has been doing. it. But I mean, can we get Dak some help. on defense, man? Like Dak is playing. very, very good football at a high level. and they just can't seem to stop. anybody. It's it's on it's like a. feel-good story I feel like to see. Darnold and Baker on. They're playing so. well. For whatever reason, it's easy to. root for those guys. >> I concur completely. Let's go to getting. to the quarterback. Let's go to sacks. Top five sacks in the league. You got.

Bonito on that Denver Broncos defense. that made the Jets look horrendous in. London. Byron Young number 06. Same with. Brian Burns, Aiden Hutchinson and Durant. Armstrong. Now, whenever I see these. five guys, AQ, you think nightmare or. what are the thoughts on what's. happening on the defensive line pass. rush side of football? They are. nightmares. But I think when you look at. Bonito and you look at Byron Young, both. of those guys benefit from having a good. defensive line all the way across. When. you look at Bonito, he's got Cooper,

he's got Zack Allen, he's got all these. guys, right? Byron Young has Fisk, he's. got uh Verse. I mean, they got players. everywhere. Obviously, Brian Burns got. Dexter Lawrence, he's got Abdul Cart, right? Like all these guys are. benefiting from the entire group. They're just the ones making the plays. >> Okay, now let's talk about more on the. defensive side in the back end. Let's go. top five picks. top five picks. You got. Lloyd with four, Bard with three, Joseph. with three, Petri with three, and then. 18 people with two. Okay, now I don't. see all the names on her. I see Bayham. pretty good and Mai Blackman, all the. other names kind of Leatu Lu is also in.

there. He's a defensive end, so feels. like those names are a little bit bigger. than all the other ones. But what does. this mean, Dutch? Is this a good start, you think, to the defense on getting. their hands on the ball or a bad start? >> Kind of coming from all over the place. You got a linebacker right now leading. the league in interceptions of Devin. Lloyd and then two uh kind of free. safeties, deep field safeties getting. their hands on the ball and Jaylen Petri. who kind of plays all over but mostly in. the slot and then obviously a bunch of. guys tied at five. So um getting their. hands on the ball from all over the uh. defense. >> I like that. I appreciate where we're.

at. And congrats to all these guys being. top five. >> Y a lot of guys top five here. >> That's right. >> A lot of guys top five. They're. intercepting top fives even though. they're top 30 in this particular list. And then let's go to tackles. AJ, total. tackles. Now we got dogs all over the. place. 66 tackles down there in Miami. There is an upside down there. Bobby. Wagner still doing it in Washington at. 65. Cedric Ray, Jam and Nate Landman. Great name out of Land Man. And. obviously it's been fun to watch him. play this year. Feels like we're just.

learning his story. AJ, what are your. thoughts on Bobby Wagner's old ass still. doing it? >> It's so awesome to see Bobby out there. And Bobby's still playing. Like that's. the problem. people when they know that. somebody's been around forever and they. know what age they are, they like. instantly you watch it with these weird. like filtered look like, "Oh yeah, he's. still pretty good for how old he is.". No, he's pretty damn good for a football. player. He's an awesome linebacker in. the NFL no matter what age he is. And I. tell you what, land man, he's quietly. just racking up the stats over there in. LA. >> Jordan Brooks, let's go to one half of. the Hammer D Cowboys Bubba Gumpino.

Jordan Brooks all over the place knows. real ball. >> Absolute leader on the defensive side of. the football. probably the whole leader. on the entire team. He makes a tackle. every time he gets near a guy. >> Well, the leaders need to get it right. because I've heard there's people being. late to things that the leaders are. putting together. >> He'll be he'll be taking the podium. today actually. >> Okay. I'm excited to hear what he is. >> This is you know lot of lot of they're. facing a lot of offensive snaps. If you. pop that list up again, it's the one. list I think stands out from the other.

ones where. >> you see three teams on here. The. Dolphins, the Titans, the Jets where. Yeah. So, yes, >> teams are only scoring. saying stats are. a little misleading. >> No, no, no. I'm not saying it's. misleading, but. >> you're saying, well, it's easy to get 66. tackles whenever you're on the field. 4,000x the other team. >> No, not saying it's easy, but it's just. one of those lists that sometimes you. don't want to be on. And then it's even. with the passing, like you don't. necessarily want to be, you know, you. have a great passer obviously, but you. don't want to be on that list. A lot of. times you want to be running that ball. out, winning the game, four-minute. drives, but um can be misleading.

>> Okay. Okay. And last stat, this might be. misleading as well because it's our. first time really giving it. Kickoffs. and punts only, not turnovers. Drive. start average. Basically, after a return. is when the offense gets the ball. The. Washington Commanders average the 32.2. yd line after every single time they get. the ball. Okay. So, if it's a kick or a. punt, a kickoff or a punt, they're. return averaging getting them to the. 32.2 yd line. That's a great drive. start. And then after the kick, you. know, which would be the defensive drive. start when the defense takes the field. The New York Giants defense currently.

jogging onto the field average 24 yard. line start which is that's less than a. touchback used to be last year whenever. it was at the 25 or two years ago. whenever it was at the 25. That's. incredible stuff. You know the kickoff's. a big deal now. Okay, they're a big deal. now. You either got somebody that can do. them or you don't. And if you don't, you. can get punished. You kick it out of. bounds. It's 40. Touchback's 35. You. kind of have to cover. These teams have. been doing well in special teams and. some of these teams haven't been doing. well the rest of the way. So maybe they. need to lift up and play to the level. their special team has been playing. Joining us now.

>> is a man who's coaching a special team. >> in a special place that hasn't been. known for the sport that they are. currently playing great at in a long. long long time maybe ever. Ladies and. gentlemen, head coach of the number. three ranked team in the United States. of America, the Indiana Hooser football. team, Kurt Signetti. >> Yeah, coach. >> How you doing, Pyon? >> Doing. >> Thank you for joining us today. I know. you got a lot going on. I know you have. a lot on your plate. Obviously, whenever. you win, you know, the expectations grow.

and it's your job to make sure everybody. knows that we're just on to the next. week. Now, on that note, that win in. Oregon felt good for you and the boys. I. mean, obviously with the conversation. last year about Ohio State and Notre. Dame, you had to face it head-on. multiple times. That win in Oregon was. something like a weight off your guys'. shoulders, you think, or was there a. sense of excitement about we know we can. do this and we finally did? Is that a is. that a true statement or no? >> Well, I think it was a challenge, you. know, well.

mind the game and great I mean great. team does a great job, [Music]. you know, to play. veteranship. plays football and. Oh, it was a football. >> It was Hey, coach, we have to call you. back. We have to call you back. We have. to reconnect because the audio was. dropping out on our side, not on your. side. It's our fault, not yours. We. apologize for that. What What happened.

there? I mean, that was We didn't even. get half throttle. >> We didn't. Normally, that thing kind of. corrects its course, you know, that kind. of starts doing itself and starts. figuring it out. It got worse almost as. he was talking. Did. >> he was in his bag, too. You see the. hair? >> Oh, yeah. >> Oh my god. Yeah, there was good light. It was really That was phenomenal. Now, I do believe there was a connection. thing at the beginning and then. obviously we see him and we want to get. started. So, that's on us for maybe. rushing it before the audio was. completely put together. But what their. team has been doing, AJ, you could see. how maybe the boys on that flight back,

four hours, 5 hour flight back, there's. probably some [ __ ] talking happen. amongst the boys about we knew this was. possible. And I think they did and I. think I did as well because I've seen. them because I'm here in Indianapolis. I. don't know if a lot of people know this. Indiana team, AJ. Legit, I don't think. that's the case. >> No, they don't. And you're right, like. you're I mean you picked them. You. definitely you definitely felt this. before the game. But yeah, it's like. anything else like team like people. casual fans want you got to prove it. over and over and over again that you. are that team that deserves to be in. this kind of situation. I think win the.

game on the road like this in Oregon. that puts you on the map and people need. to know you're legit. >> Longest home winning streak because of. Georgia and Washington losing at home. and the weeks before that and Auton. supposed to be impossible place to play. It is an impossible place to play. the. travel, the sound, everything about it. is a real homefield advantage. I thought. it not being a night game, a little bit. different. I thought that potentially a. little bit different, but I think they. have to play in a lot of these games. because obviously West Coast three hours. ahead. So, did they get the best of. Auton? I think so. And did they get the.

best uh team in versions of themselves? I think so. For them in the biggest. moment, they showed up and played their. best ball. I think that's huge for a. team's confidence. >> Huge. You go into a hostile environment. like that. It because everybody outside. of the building, nobody believed in. them. you saw obviously the panel who. picked the games but that was pretty. much the consensus outside watching the. game. So to go in there and make plays. and it comes it starts with your big. time players sometimes in these type of. games just your top dog or one of your. dogs just need to make a bet a big time. play and everybody else knows all right.

we're here and we're here to win it and. then it's nothing like that. Those are. the probably one of the top two or three. things you miss as a former player. Like. those trips back home, you know, going. into somebody else's place, kicking. their ass, getting on the plane and and. having that trip and the vibes are just. unmatched. >> So, I don't know if there's a connection. issue still. If coach Signnetti joins us. again, we will certainly bring him back. in. We can't wait to catch up with him. We believe in him. We love him. And. also, this state loves him. This is a. football state. You know, when Payton. got here,

>> I've been sitting there. >> Yeah. Mhm. Mhm. Allergy season. >> Yeah, but I've been seeing up. >> You have got to do both, unfortunately. >> What the allergy Claridin type thing? >> Oh, yeah. >> See? >> Every day. >> Can't Can't miss days either. >> I've been half ass. >> Me, too. I've been seeing the sh We got. C in here. We got vitamin C gummies. >> I take I get about I take about 10 of. them every time I come in on Friday. >> Boom. So, you're once a week in it. trying to make up for the rest of the. week. So, I'm every day in here walking. in. See? See? And I'm doing it. So, I. feel like I'm putting up a good defense.

system, you I'm putting up a good battle. for this. Happens to everybody that's in. this world every single fall. And and I. assume it happens to everybody in on. Earth as well. I'm just talking about. the TV world. So whenever you see people. on TV or you hear them talking, you can. hear it. Just know that they're going. through it right now. And they are very. excited for that to be done. And when. it's done, it's clear sailing for the. rest of the season. So it's like, when's. it going to get you? When's it not going. to get you? And then we start reading. about these vitamin C gummies. It's. like, hold the phone. We don't have we. don't have to. >> Sounds like we don't we don't have to. get it. we could just battle every.

single day with these gummies. Instead, what it sounds like is I didn't know. there was another tag team partner this. entire thing. >> Yeah. I mean, we are getting in the. point now where we're going to start. these 75s are going to go away and we're. going to be start, you know, we're going. to wake up and it's going to there's. going to be frost on the ground and the. high is going to only be 5560. You got. whether you have allergies or not, you. got to take them cuz that ragweed does. not quit and that pollen does not quit. and it's coming. >> This is me getting old though, too. I. never would have worried about this ever. in my life, but now I'm an old man. >> Part of it. Just wait till you start. sending Mackenzie back and forth from.

school. >> Oh yeah, >> it's coming. >> Oh yeah. All non-stop. >> Peach builds everybody's immune system. Everybody's immune system gets better. then. >> Her immunity. >> Yeah. >> Yep. >> Yeah. >> I did hear some stuff about it and it. was kind of quickly. But I do remember. her immunity is a strong cuz I like to. be a part of a hurt, you know, I like. this thing together, you know, your arms. up like we just won a Stanley Cup down. there right before thing. We we are. going to get through this together. We. need a sea up and we need the I didn't. know we need the other thing. We need. the other thing to be as readily. available as the C's are. Let's go and.

get on it. Can we buy that over the. counter? >> No. Yeah. Oh, yeah. >> I thought I thought you could only buy. one per day. >> Well, that might be it because you know. you get so many scumbags out there. crushed down pills and cook meth with. it. But your Algras, you're Claritens, you know that kind of stuff. >> You you get on it. >> Those things go boom boom. >> They go boom boom big time. That's why. you got to have your ID readily. available when you go to your local CVS. >> or when Door Dash arrives. Hey, we need. to check your ID. >> Hey, you a [ __ ] scumbag. You ain't. cook meth with this? No. Okay, let me.

see your ID. Let me scan that. You'll be. good to go. >> It's pretty wild what they these. chemists, these meth chemists have been. able to create into things. Yeah. Like. there's just the weirdest things you go. to buy at a store and they'll be like, I. need an ID. I'm like, >> what are we talking about? They're like, some of these psychossefed is locked up. now. You can barely get pseudafed. >> Uhhuh. >> Man, >> that's meth. I have you thanks a lot. breaking have you obviously out here in. Indiana. Yeah. Bingo. Out here in. Indiana, you know, I don't know in. Pittsburgh there was a lot of meth. I I. don't think there was a lot of meth in. Pittsburgh, at least from my. understanding. I I think it was other. drugs of choices that were kind of being.

used. Out here in Indiana though, there. is, you know, country a little bit more. methy. Oh, yeah. >> You know, so my first couple years out. here, you just hear about something just. blowing up. >> Yep. >> And it's like, whoa, whoa, what was it? Like a gas leak or something? You're. like, well, kind of, I guess. Yes. Guy. named Jackson, rest in peace. He was. cooking up some real [ __ ] He had all. this stuff and that thing just blew up. and it's like right in the middle of. like a town like they turn these houses. into these entire kind of meth shops and. they were just kind of chasing it for a. bit. That's scary stuff. So we need the. meth be the we need the ingredients to.

meth but need not make meth. >> Correct. >> A lot of IDing. We're going to do a lot. of ID. >> Lot of ID checking. >> We're going to get through football. season though with perfect voices. I. mean I already started to have it. So I. guess I'm already being defeated. potentially. >> You're back though. Look at that. You. just a quick. >> and you're back. >> Mhm. >> You're right. You're right. >> So, you know, >> how about Saturday morning in Eugene? I. woke up and it was not there. >> and I was like, whoa, what why is this. happening? Out of nowhere, I got in um I. watched Kenny Chznney before one of his.

shows. He had like a like one of those. Nyquil steamers, >> vaporizer thing. >> Yeah, like a vaporizer. And he like was. like breathing that air in, you know, and I was like, "Oh, this is a good. idea." cuz that's probably he goes I. have no idea if it works. I just been. doing it for like 20 years or whatever. I'm like sounds like a good idea. So I. remember that from that moment. Saturday. morning I wake up in Eugene. Nothing. I'm like whoa. I don't have a cough. I. don't have any. I don't feel sick. Where. did you go? Like where have you been? I've just been talking regular mouth. I. turned on that vaporizer thing and I was.

just huffing that thing for like an hour. and a half straight just down in this. stuff. Water dripping off face onto. clothes. Sitting there doing notes. shooting myself in the face with it. Still lost my voice. I don't know if it. works 100% of the time. That's kind of. the worry. We got to beat this fall, though. We will beat this fall. Oh, yeah. >> Did we beat the technical problems? >> Never did. >> No. >> Damn. >> Hey, I'll tell you what, >> sign is too electric. You can't just put. a [ __ ] microphone in front of him, expect it not to pop out. >> On that note, let's move along. Uh, some.

takeaways. Takeaways. Can't have. signetti next to any electronic. equipment because he's too damn. electric. He'll pop out all the systems. That's what we just learned. >> Bingo. I'll tell you what, I've never. been more sure of an Indiana Hooser. football run than I am now. >> Tech, modern technology can't handle. Signetti. That sounds like a problem to. everybody on the football field. Let's. do some takeaways, shall we? From week. six of the NFL season. A joins us every. single Wednesday and we're thankful for. him. What day is it a A? >> It's Wednesday. >> It's hump day. >> Hump day, baby.

>> Hump day. Guy Torres Maniscus standing. up off the couch yesterday. Today he. will tell us his top takeaways from week. six of the NFL season. >> Mile High Mers, >> let's talk about this Broncos defense. Nine sacks from this last week. >> Net negative passing yards and pressured. on 50% of the rush. Let's watch Zack. Allen. Wow. Just push pull. Get a. pressure. By the way, the more I watch. the film, Zack Allen's the guy that's. popping off this tape making this whole. thing go. Let's watch this one right. here. He's going to slant inside. Take.

two. Franklin Myers comes around, causes. the pressure. He doesn't make the play, but guess who does? >> Cooper. Jonathan Cooper off the edge. >> Wow, that's a good name. Hey, I'm happy. you pulled that cuz you said, "Guess who. it was?" We did not know. I looked. around the room. I saw a lot of people. that did not know. AJ. Buckeyes. >> Oh, okay. I like that. >> Hey, AJ, you'll like this. Check out. this coffee house stunt right here. What's a coffee house number 40? Fakes. like he does it. Comes around, causes. the pressure. Look at Zack Allen again. Gets his hands on the football. Big Zack. Allen's having a monster year. And then,

oh, Lufano, hey, let's try and block. this freak off the edge. Nick Bonito, guess what? Get out of your stance. Nope. >> Here he goes. Look at that. Get off. right around the corner. I mean, these. guys were just getting I mean, >> causing havoc all game long. >> Vance Joseph, Dcoordinator, been a head. coach before. A lot of people assume. he's going to be a head coach again. He's been around a long, long time. >> Now, he's getting taken care of by the. Walton family that owns the Broncos. And. we thought that could have been an. advantage for Shawn Payeyton. And maybe. why he chose to go to Denver is because.

there is no salary cap for how much you. can pay the coaches. So you can keep a. great staff around if they don't want to. go on to be head coaches. Vance has been. there for a while now and they've been. great for a long time. I don't think. they are the team we need to be putting. in London games, okay, to introduce our. sport to another group. But they have. been dominant for a long time with Vance. back there. What is it about it? Obviously the players are great. What is. it about that scheme that makes it so. damn great? I mean, in my opinion, coaches are great, but you got to it. start, it always starts with the players. cuz you have the scheme, but these guys. being pros, being able to go out there.

and execute it and adjust on the fly and. get that [ __ ] done. And on the flip side. of that, like just watching Justin. Fields, and I know this was his worst. game by far, could anybody have played. quarterback behind? Like, was it more. the defense or the offensive line just. [ __ ] the bed as well? >> Their line's actually been decent this. year, but I mean, just look what they're. doing. I mean that push pull on the. first play by Zack. He was dominant in. this game. He jumped off the tape. I. actually called JJ. I'm like, why why. did the Cardinals not resign him? He was. like a couple injuries, couple things. didn't happen, but then Vance gets him.

But here's what's interesting about. Vance is he's always been known as a. pressure guy. He's sending cover zero. from anywhere on the field. And now he. has four really good pass rushers and he. doesn't need to do that every play. >> Good cover guys, too. >> What's the second takeaway from week. shik? A. >> Nick Herbig wres havoc. >> What up? Herbig's a weapon. And his. hands too look spectacular from the. highlights we saw. >> Really good. We got a couple of those. highlights. Let's take a look here. This. is the first time you've had all three. pass rushers together. Watt, Highmith, and Herbig. And they lined him up over.

the center right there. And let's go to. the next one. Now a first down. >> Oh, that's so you're saying BFF. That. was good play by him. Actually won his. assignment. Watch him. Watch him beat. the center here. Watch this. Boom. Over. top of center. He's gone. Hit hit on the. quarterback. >> Just got out quick. >> I was going to say football's gone, too. >> Yeah, that's a good scheme. >> Next play. lines up over the guard. So, they're lining him up all over the. place. What they're not doing with the. other ends over the guard. Boom. Quick. beat outside again. Hit on the. quarterback again. It's a pass. completed, but he's doing his job first. time. Showing I'm showing the. versatility here now.

>> Very bff of you. >> Yeah. Well, now let's show him on the. edge here. Let's get to the edge. Watch. this inside move. Watch him lift with. his inside hand. Boom. Lift up. underneath. >> There it is. That's good play. >> Big one. That's good play. He had a lot. of good plays. Just not to show him. >> We got another one. We got another one. Let's watch him here. Outside, not go. inside. Go outside. Run around. Another. sack. Herbig is a dog. >> Okay. What you just did was lay out the. argument exactly for PFF. Okay. So, let. me get this straight. We're showing. highlights players, but they're still.

the pass is getting off and it's. dropping. Everything's happening about. that. I didn't know that was even. possible. PF guy on the right says, >> "Okay, then he follows up with saying, well, yeah, that's why we gave Herbick. 94.8 PFF rating he had this weekend. because everything you just said." And. you can win an assignment. You can win. an assignment, right? And then. >> the difference is he's getting a stat. That's still a hit on the quarterback. Miles Garrett was nowhere near the. quarterback. >> They literally kept him out of the game. plan. He was three guys to him, chipping, sliding two. He wasn't even. getting near the quarterback. >> Yeah, but you know, that's cuz he was.

winning his assignment. >> Yeah. Since we're here, do you know what. his uh pass rush win rate percentage was. or No. >> Is it ESPN or PFF? Which one we asking? >> Both of them use shitty stats. So, I. mean, >> whoa, >> these stats matter. These stats matter. Thank you. Holy [ __ ] man. >> I would like to say this. Uh, Hembo. stats are amazing. We love them. We. think stats do have a good purpose. >> Yeah. And Hembo still does send us some. some stuff sometimes like, "Okay, dude,

that's not real.". >> Yeah. And we don't tell him that, but we. should maybe let him know more often. that, hey, some of these like. >> we can't be doing the kid knows. Like. yesterday, I started thinking about this. because some of the stats came over and. Hembo's phenomenal. He's won awards for. everything that he's done. He's. incredible for us. Very nice to us. And. he sends us stats that make us much. better. It's not just us. He makes a lot. of people better on TV. But like stats. people have become like uh like lawyers. Like lawyers do stuff that you have to. hire a lawyer to read what the other.

lawyer they keep each other employed. Okay? They might be against each other. in this particular case, but you're. going to have to hire a lawyer to read. what this lawyer said. It's like kind of. ring this game. Stats people. It's. getting to the point where you're going. to have to hire a stats person to break. down what stat is being said by the stat. person. So now stat people are keeping. stat people employed because it's both. ends giving them and breaking them down. And I respect the hustle. I certainly. do. But any of the ones that I don't. understand, >> I'm out on just immediately. >> The acronyms get me. >> The EPA one is just I I don't fully.

>> Everyone just assumes they know what. they're talking about, too. I feel like. not no one wants to say, "Hey, I don't. want to sound dumb, but what does that. mean?" And I think people just act like. they know what it is. and not many. people know what they're talking about. >> Yeah. And we would like to say once. again to the stats community, there's a. lot of positives that have come to our. sport via the stats community. We are. very thankful. But sometimes you just. like we sometimes just like us, you do a. little bit too, you go a little bit too. far. >> Sure. >> And we just need to abuse less of. restriction. You're getting the public. restriction done now. Chris Long is. going in. JJ Watt very passionately.

doing his thing. >> AJ Hawk even guy on the right I think. made a good he tweeted he tweeted us. I. don't know if he was a former uh scout. His name is um Trevor Sikma. >> Okay. Trevor Sikma. He's Tampa Bay Trey. So he's down at the bay. We we got a lot. of respect for Tampa Bay Trey. He said, "Pat, first love the show. Y'all change. the game." Okay. Appreciate the guys. showing a full clip of our show for. context. Happy to come on anytime. Y'all. want to have me talk grades, process, transparency, guy on right. We might do. that actually. That would be a fun.

little game. >> It's good. >> And it feels like Tampa Bay Trey guy on. right. probably the right guy to do it. because at least he gave a full actual. coherent answer like hey this was. actually a compliment to the Steelers. offense as opposed to a shot at TJ Watt. or anything like that. So I respect it. >> No, I think it was wrong but we still we. still respect. >> Agree to disagree. >> All right. What's the last takeaway? Is. that what it is? Stats are coming under. fire right now. No, it's. >> scatter boom. [Music]. >> Favorite one of the week and that's this.

guy right here. You don't need stats. You don't need stats for this guy. You. know why? All you got to do is watch. this tape. Let's take a look at him take. this inside hand off downhill. Look at. Cooper Deene. Come over the top. Boom. Fall down. Every single person that runs. into him hits the ground on their back. Let's look at the next one. All pro. Zack Bond. You see him in the middle of. the field. Over the top. Take the pitch. Get downhill. Don't go out of bounds. Find somebody. Throw his ass on the. ground. And then the last one. >> Yeah, you can't measure Hart. Gets hit. behind the line of scrimmage down on the. goal line. Keep your feet moving.

Strain. Get in the end zone. never goes. down, never die attitude. >> AJ, what are your thoughts on Scataboom? >> I mean, I love the dude. I absolutely. love why he's a true like. he show that to kids. Show that to every. kid. Hey, you think you're playing hard, you think you're running hard. This is. what running hard is. This guy is. getting the the most out of every single. time he touches the ball. And what's. awesome when he doesn't have the ball, he's blasting dudes. He's a great. blocker as well. And obviously, he's. he's got to have been a real like spark. plug for that whole organization, I feel.

like, right? And we're all interested to. see if he can maintain this, you know, like in college it was spectacular. >> Yeah. >> Jo awesome. High school incredible. Then. the question was, can he do this in the. NFL? We after seeing the size of his. head and the way he operates and getting. a chance to learn about him. We assumed. it would have success. He is having. massive success and he's playing the. exact same way he has played on every. football field his entire life. Guys. might be bigger, guys might be faster. There might be more lights on them right. now, but he is playing the same exact. way. Does it last? Can it last? We hope.

so. We [ __ ] hope so. >> We hope so. It is awesome football. debug. >> Low man wins in football and he's built, you know, like I forget which running. back it was maybe yesterday AJ was. talking about, but like those Mike. Turner type built running backs. Those. are the worst backs to try to tackle. because they have built-in leverage. He. is like a Mike All and one of our former. teammates, Ahmad Bradshaw, just hybrid. right in the one and he he plays his ass. off. But yeah, I I'm a little concerned. about his longevity.

>> Well, also Jackson Du is getting in on. the action. He's just he's just. dolphining. He just did a dolphin. Just. starting quarterback in the NFL. >> Run, send it. Just head first into another. guy's head. And then him and Scataboo. headbutt each other all the time. Helmets on and helmets off. It's like. what a perfect duo for Dable. >> Yeah, >> we're excited about it. And that was. scatter. boo. [Music].

Thank you for your takeaways. Hour three. will be on the other side digitally. We. can't thank you enough for allowing us. to do this for a living. We'll see you. tomorrow. Be a friend. Tell a friend. something nice. It might change our. life. Goodbye. Think we really hit it. >> Bam. Nailed it. >> Uh those are good takeaways. >> Great take. >> Thank you. >> Hey, take a wish. Did you guys see Chuck. Pagano was talking to the media? >> Certainly. I I didn't get a chance to. hear it all or listen to it all, but I'm. sure there's. >> what. >> is he moving up? >> What do you mean moving up? >> Is he taking over the defense? >> No. Whoa.

>> Jeez. Geez. >> Calling for guys. >> We don't know. But there's a lot of. people talking about that in this. Thunderdome over the last couple weeks. just like, "Holy [ __ ] What if Chuck. Pagano is [ __ ] calling plays. >> in just a matter of time?" He goes from. sitting on our show, you know, talking. about waffling a little bit and what. happens when he goes home sweet Miss. Tina and then all of a sudden he's. calling defense for the Baltimore Ravens. who are still in it. >> Okay, they have been absolute ass. >> terrible. >> Coming out of the bye-week though, there's a chance they can still go on a. run and they're going to need their. defense to get a lot better. Last year, week 10, I think they had one of the.

worst defenses in the league. Then they. were able to turn around down the long. down the long haul there. And it's like, is this the team that's going to be able. to do the same thing or are the. Baltimore Ravens just wasting a year. here? You know, that's kind of the is. this just a wasted year? Like the Niners. last year, wasted year just because of. injuries and things that don't go your. way. The Ravens had the top seven. highest paid guys not playing in one. game in the first five weeks of the. season. That sucks. I mean, that's. [ __ ] sucks. That's six or seven guys. What do we. >> top seven highest paid guys? This is how.

our team's going to be built. >> We're gonna We're gonna Jeez, that thing. really came on nice. How you doing, love? love. Here's our here's how we're. going to build our team. Okay, here's. our highest paid guy. Obviously, we want. him to have success. Here's our second. highest paid guy. We want him to feed. into this. We want to take it seventh. highest paid guys, the most important. guys to your roster. Literally, that. decision has been made financially that. this is what you're going to focus on. all of them out. So, now you just move. this up. It's like this early to have.

that much bad luck whenever it comes in. You lose five out of the top seven. highest paid guys, it's a story. You. lose four out of the top seven high pay. guys. Three. It's a huge story. Seven. guys all out at the same time. It's like. football guys just seemingly not on the. Raven side this year. AJ, >> they got time though. They are. I mean, they don't have much time, but they have. time. They could turn it around for. sure. >> Especially if Chuck shot giving. >> Yeah. Bingo. >> Belgium pretel. >> They only have five AFC Northers left.

>> They're going to need Steelers to do. something. Joe Flacco better not get hot. >> No. Let's get a hammer. >> Tolman seems real worried about Flack. >> I love that. Do you? >> He was real worried about him last year, too. I think you guys won, right? Or no, did we? >> I mean, uh, that was the first time. Colts won in 13 years against Steelers, I believe. >> Oh, that was last year. He was a little. worried last year about it and now he's. all of a sudden worried about him. >> He was right. He's a smart coach. He's a. smart guy, but I don't like him acting. like uh we haven't beat Joe Flacco in. the playoffs like six times and stuff. Like, it's Come on. Let's just go.

>> Bill Bich, though, he's just pumping up. the opposing. >> We are on to Cincinnati. That is. correct. So, yeah, >> playoff wins weren't on Thursday. >> 0 and6 against the division on Thursday. night. Is that what you said? >> That's Yeah, that is correct. And it's. all it tells me is we shouldn't be. playing football games on Thursdays. >> Yeah. Certainly, if you're the. Pittsburgh Steelers, you're thinking. that. And if you're the Cincinnati. Bengals, you go, "Hey, this these these. guys suck on Thursdays.". >> Yeah. >> But is this a different year because. Aaron's there? >> Yeah. Yes. >> Jaylen's there on the other side. Remember Jaylen on the pivot said, "Hey,

once I learned why Aaron's doing all. this, I was all in. I was a boy." Cuz. we're kind of seeing it the same way. It's like they got a lot of spite. seemingly on that team over there. Thursday night, Sunday. Pretty quiet, too, hasn't it? It's been pretty quiet. out of the Pittsburgh Steelers. It. >> has. It has very much. I think, don't. you think nationally especially like. it's definitely been quiet with them how. they've started off and how well they've. played. >> Kind of locked in, you know, in these. games that they're playing very well. Obviously, we're talking about Thursday. night prime time game. They put a. drumming on the Cincinnati Bengals. Everybody starts talking about the. Steelers. They move to five and one if.

that's the case. >> Steelers are a really good football team. and they just have not gotten the. attention because it doesn't look. pretty. It's muddied up. It's gritty. It's extra O line package. It's. nothing's pretty and then they're. hitting short pass, short pass, short. pass. Every once in a while he hits the. the little chunk play, but because it's. not pretty, it's not getting the. national attention. And. >> Aaron Rogers is also ranked like the. 38th quarterback, too. So I think that's. >> Wait, it's on PF? >> Come on. >> 39th, actually. 39. How many teams are. playing? What What leagues? They They. brought in the UXFL.

>> Yeah, the game has to be real. 39. >> UXFL. >> That should be the name, bro. I saw. Rapin. What? What's his name? >> Oh, Rapolei. >> Rap. I saw Rap. I'm almost said Rapino, world champion. >> She may be an investor. We don't know. >> We don't know. We're 100% Rapole. >> Yeah, Mike Rapoli. >> Rapoli said, "Hey, we're going to work. on a branding or whatever." We helped. you, brother. It should be UXFL. >> Boom. Done. >> You put the Ax in football, Brooke. That's what we need.

>> We need the UXFL to do it thing. 39th, you said is Aaron Rogers? >> Yeah, I looked it up this morning. >> What? >> He has been absolutely perfect though. for this team. Like, has it been flashy? No. But he's been so smart and does the. right thing with the ball almost every. single time. And then, yes, when you. need those three-step shot plays, he's. been perfect on him. He has been the. absolute perfect quarterback so far. >> Who's behind him? Who's ranked behind. him then? Uh, the guy right behind him. was Mason Rudolph. >> How many were qualifiers? >> Yeah, >> I don't know how many qualifiers were.

>> So, like 39. What's the denominator? They know the denominator. >> I'll pull it up. >> How many backup quarterbacks have we. even had? >> So, Browning, Carson Wentz. So, yeah, >> Browning was ahead of him at one point. in their rankings. >> Jacob's definitely ahead of him. I bet. >> Cooper had a good game. A Jacobe had a. good game. >> If Cooper Kush is in front of him, then. someone. >> He had a pretty good game on Sunday. He's like 15 for 40 something with you. know but but his assignments you're. right he's hurt three step did.

>> Gabriel good. >> did Dylan Gabriel have a higher rating. than he did on Sunday. >> I mean there's a chance once again. because he you know he had right here. and then ball. >> elevated above shoulder y. >> wasn't sloppy down points. >> it was up here. >> no interceptions. >> and then as he scanned he seemingly went. from his proper progressions which once. again PFF would not know. >> Two points. Two points aggression. Two. point two. >> And then actually got to the four one. time which is bonus ball. >> You know that that I think that was. five. And then his motion was good.

transfer of weight. >> Yep. >> So he made he went to his fourth. progression bonus ball. Good transfer of. weight. Good form. It was it was an. incomplete but it could have been caught. >> cuz if it's a completion it's a two. times multiplier. Well, it was an. incompletion, so they missed out on that. and it actually made a sound whenever. the ball was dropped because the ball. was actually on fire after all those. things happened and then the ball drops. and hits the ground. So, his assignment. actually we saw. >> nailed it. >> All of.

>> Dylan Gabriel is actually 44th. >> Okay. So, maybe what I just said wasn't. about Dylan Gabriel. >> That was another That was about another. quarterback. >> But, you know, there I mean there are a. lot of quarterbacks. >> Who's one who's number one? >> Who's number one? Sam Dorm. >> Who's number 50? Cam Ward. >> Okay. >> Cam Ward. Yes. Where's Flacco? >> Joey Flacco is currently um 32nd. >> Oh, so he's out playing Rogers. >> Anthony Richardson 31. >> Good call. Those knees when he when he. came in the game and took those knees. >> Well, he threw a completion to himself.

>> Yeah. See, should be one. >> Qualify. >> CJ Stride is 30th. >> Where's Drake May? I hope he better not. be on this list. >> Drake's on Drake's number five. >> [ __ ] Get him off. Can we scroll up or. no? >> It's two screenshots. Two separate. screenshots. >> Oh, there it is. Sam Darnold is number. one. Here we go. Here's the tops. Sam. Darno number one. Marcus Mariota. >> He played well. >> Okay. >> Holy [ __ ] What is wrong? >> Frank May is number five overall, dude. >> Yeah. Get him off because I mean Davis. Mills is better than him. I don't know.

why he's ahead of him. >> Doggy Mills is a player. Obviously, he's. better than Josh. >> Is this real? Like, are we really. Whatever. What's that? >> This is real, bro. What do you mean, Conor? This is real. These are rankings, bro. You got number five quarterback. >> I'm a huge fan. I am. BTT. >> Yeah. No, I'm a big BT percentage. >> Yeah. No, I like it. >> All right. Those are big time throws. >> Good luck to everybody. Good luck to. everybody being better. >> Yeah. >> And hopefully the PFF overlords will see. you as a success story in your.

assignments as opposed to a failure in. your assignments. >> JJ Walt was the best of all time, they. said, and he hates them. >> That was crazy. He got real upset. Oh. yeah, big time. >> He got super duper upset. >> I mean, Davis Mills, if he doesn't get a. $250 million contract, should sue the. NFL. >> So, >> all right, let's go. Uh, let's do our. top five offensive line, shall we? See, we don't know what PFF's saying, but we. do know what's coming from the mind of. the man behind in the trenches with AQ. Shipley. Top five performing offensive.

lines out of week six. Number five, wow, >> the Chicago Bears. >> Whoa, what did they do? Let's take a. look at Darnell Wright, their big right. tackle. If you remember a couple years. ago when we did the draft special, I was. demonstrating Darnell Wright right. there. Top 10 pick out of Tennessee. Pulls around. But check it out. Zakias. misses his pin block right there. Now. watch Darnell put it back on. Zakius. back up underneath. Darnell still gets. the block. And this was big time to get. the big run in the fourth quarter to.

seal it, to get down, run the clock. down, kick the game winner. So, left-handed, stiff arm to a guy's chest. just to make up for a buddy who missed a. blocking and then let me get downfield a. little bit. Let me slow you down and. then let me bury you out of the play. with a little bit of a hold, but they're. not going to call it. So, it's a. touchdown. >> That's exactly right. >> Not a touchdown, but success. >> Successful play. He's fantastic. And he. was fantastic this whole game. They have. been waiting for him to show up like. this, and he really did this week. >> All right. Who's number four performing. offensive line coming out of week six? Whoa. >> Los Angeles Chargers. Mhm.

>> ran for 124 yds at 6.9 yd per clip. Let's take a look at the left side. See. this little tight end wing formation. Then that's a wide receiver Trey Harris. out there and they are setting it up. like they're running downhill. You get a. 6-1 defense. Everyone piled inside. They. think it's downhill run. Nope. Let's. toss it. Is that Is that enough? >> Ah, that's a big gaping hole. That's a. lot of meat out there. AJ, what do you. got to do? >> It is. If you run that back AQ, they've.

had to practice. Look at this left. tackle. How does he not and chop all of. that down and take three people out and. create a pile and they can't do it. anymore. >> Yeah. If you run it back to the. beginning, show exactly what AJ's. talking about. 26 out here wide. He. needs to run right at Nine's outside. knee and just create a pile right there. and then let everybody run inside. I. mean, I don't know if it would have. helped on this play with how it What was. this? Third and short. I'm sorry. Third. and one. Third one. >> Yeah, third and one. Like you said, thinking it's going to be a short inside. play getting out to the edge. But yeah, with no power like that, we just will. extend those holes wider and wider.

>> What do you want for a 142 or something? Vidal. >> 124 18 for 124, 6.9 per clip. >> Hell of a They got it set up over there. They're They got injuries. They're just. continuing to roll. Is Horal find it? Number four. >> You know what they did? >> What's that? >> They went fullback again this week. Remember early in the year it was all, hey, let's let's showcase Herbert. Let's. pass pass. They got back playing. fullback, tight end, all the stuff this. week. It played the Dolphins, too. That. didn't hurt. >> Well, Dolphins are certainly making. superstars out of other players, and we. appreciate that. Uh, the number three. offensive line. I don't know how this.

works. >> The Indianapolis Colts are the best. offensive line cumulative for the year, but for this week, number three. >> Okay, so still best offensive. I like. that. So, coming out of another big time. win, obviously a shootout against the. Arizona Cardinal, which you were on the. call for, you have the number three, not. number one. I'm intrigued to see why. they're doing so well and why they're. not one. >> They got one guy in this group that's a. little bit below par amongst the rest of. the group. The other four have been. playing fantastic, but let's take a look. at the left side. These guys are. fantastic. Raymond, let's watch his down. block. The footwork is impeccable. Watch. him keep the edge. And look at Quint.

Nelson out in space. Rumbling, bumbling, boom. Jonathan Taylor is fantastic. >> Hey, leads the league in rushing. Obviously, the Colts offensive line's. doing well. Danny Dimes putting him in. the right positions. And Quinton. Nelson's been moving a lot more. Isn't. that kind of what you've been noticing? >> A lot more pulls. He's pulling across. the formation and your power schemes, your counter schemes, and all that. stuff. And they're getting a lot more of. this stuff right now. Pin and pull. And. they love what Tyler Warren's doing on. the edge. >> Yeah, Tyler Warren's special. They got. him lined up absolutely everywhere. So, obviously like this player. Is there any. other great plays at this offensive line. that we need to see?

>> Indianapolis goals. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. I think I put one on my Twitter. >> Did you? >> Well, what we saw. >> Let's take Let's take a look at Quinton. Nelson. If if we can pull this up. somehow in the back there. >> What? On your Twitter? >> Yeah. Off my ex. We're searching. >> Okay. I I You need to watch posting. football clips on your ex, bro. I I. don't know how much you think this. umbrella kind of extends. >> Don't shut me down. Don't do it. Don't. do it. Don't do it. >> I don't know if let's not do it. Let's. not do it. >> I don't know how far the license e kind. of goes to. >> Remember what we used to talk about when. we target lock right there. Target. locked.

>> Don't spin. >> Yeah, I got. that should be a legal. safety. >> Who's that? >> Quinton Nelson again. >> against who? >> Baron Browning. Pretty good defensive. end. >> He was so happy there. All right, tough. time. >> He got another one. >> Tough time to spin. >> He had one going outside and then he has. another one ear later in the game where. he goes inside and gets a nose guard. I. mean, he is just wrecking ball. >> I'll talk about this with Quenton. Nelson. I've said it before, but it's. noted uh at least should be noted again. Ryan Kelly was the OG in the offensive.

line room. He was the center. Center. normally the leader of the group anyway. So, facts that he was around the longest. and he was the center. I think he was. ipso facto the leader of the group. He. leaves go to the Vikings. We love Ryan. Kelly. very thankful for everything Ryan. Kelly did in Indianapolis. His family is. incredible. I think Gwent Nelson felt a. little bit more onus to be a leader and. a vocal leader. It's been fun watching. him take on that role. They've released. a lot of miked ups and I think it's. getting him back into enjoying ball. again. Now, is it the fact that he has a. quarterback that understands what the. hell he's doing for maybe the first time. in a long time in his career?

Definitely. But he's chasing the ball. down again. That was like earlier in his. career. He's first person with. everybody. He's first person with. everybody. He's all over the place. He's. special. Glen Nelson is special talent. Let's also mention he was the number one. rated guard by PFF this week and Tanner. Bornealini see. >> the center was the number one rated. center I just I just saw somebody sent. me a picture of it and I saw it so I had. to bring it up. >> and that was a scout or a GM you see. we're thinking about pay that we got to. continue to have these conversations. listen. >> sometimes you got to have awkward. conversations with people. >> that's right uncomfortable if you.

>> bam there it is sometimes you got to. have uncomfortable conversations with. people who maybe don't want to listen. maybe whenever they hear it they'll be. better for it that's what's happening. with PFF as we speak Yeah. >> Let's go to the number two offensive. line coming out of week six. >> Atlanta Falcons. I've been talking about. these guys for a long time. >> You really have. You have loved the. Atlanta Falcons. Why are they on this. week? >> First of all, Chris Lindstrom might be. the best right guard in football. He's. fantastic. Elijah Wilkinson filling in. at right tackle for Caleb McGary. He. handled Joey Bosa all game long. Let's. watch these three in the middle. Poetry. in motion. Combo up to the second level.

Jup. See you later, boys. 81 yards. Bejon Robinson had 19 for 170. He had. 8.9 and a touchdown. The Falcons had 210. yards rushing. >> The guy almost takes him out of bounds. Normally that you go out of bounds. there. Him keeping his balance and. staying in is outrageous. >> That that was unbelievable. I wish. Bishop would have just dived and just. pushed him out of bounds, but you can. see Bian keeping his balance kind of. going be however we're going to call it. Um AQ, I'm not sure if you know this, but we actually call this 28 blunt. Uh. this is a weak side. I was on here. Uh.

>> did you know that age? What did you call. it from your tree? >> We called it blunt as well. >> Okay. >> Yeah. And if it's further inside, we. call it 24 blunt. >> Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. >> Yeah. Because the way the holes go, obviously fours inside, outs outside. And we're talking about weak side, outside zone here. That thing. You. nailed it. >> Yeah. Well, we nailed it. >> You see the single block on the front. side. >> Oh, I certainly did. So, >> you see the slip block on the back side. You see what I'm saying? >> There was a little slippy wooty there. We saw it all, didn't we, Daw? We've. been talking about this for two days. now. You're kind of slow, a little. little late to the party almost on this. 28. >> And I see how you're using my man Bruce.

Aren's term. So that's where we got it. from cuz that that that's where we got. it from. >> Bruce who? >> Maybe maybe maybe maybe. >> Who's the number one performing. offensive line coming out of week six of. the NFL season? >> The Carolina Panthers. >> Good and Gilbert. >> So I love this play. This is called jab. duo. You are going to run a play to the. left, but you are going to sell like. you're running it to the right. So watch. the quarterback open up to the right. over the top ball handling. We're going. to bring 87 back across as a fullback.

essentially. Let's watch this combo. between left tackle, left guard. That's. Kenny Clark they're going against. They. just took him 12 yards and put him on. the ground. We can run that back one. more time. Let's watch left tackle, left. guard Damen Lewis and Big Icky, their. former first round pick at tackle. >> Let's watch this. Watch this. What? Wait, wait for the motion. Here come. Look at that car. That's Kenny Clark. >> That's Kenny Clark. Jerry brought him in. to stop the run. Can you guys run. through that long? >> I like the guys that we got up there, man. We had Ma. We don't have Ma. We. tie. We don't win. So, what the [ __ ].

Okay, Jerry Jones would say, but what. the [ __ ] to the Carolina Panthers? Are. they a real team? >> They're a real team. Their offensive. line's playing really good and they're. calling the runs. I think early in the. season, they weren't calling the runs. cuz they were playing from behind a lot. Now, they are calling runs and it is. marrying up with the pass game. They're. getting some good stuff from left. tackle, left guard all season long. They've been great. >> The Carolina Panthers are a real team. Let's go. You guys deserve it. Hell. yeah. >> One of the best compliments I heard from. Luke Keequley and Jake Delhome. two. Panther legends obviously. Um I guess. they do a radio do some type of show.

together and usually Luke Keequley's up. there kind of calling plays out before. they happen like you know Luke Keequley. football and he like took the headset. off I guess this week was like they're. confusing me I don't know what they're. running so he was like Dave Canales that. was a big hat tip to him that was one of. Jake Del Holmes takeaways here. So if. they're confusing Luke up in the box, >> think about that though. You're the head. coach and the offensive coordinator. >> Mhm. >> The guy that's talking to your crowd, your fans, >> is Luke Keequley, >> who is known for just understanding and. dissecting everything everybody's doing.

>> Yes. >> You're being judged as predictable. because Luke Keequley is focusing solely. on your play calling to figure out what. you're doing. That's a tough task just. to beat the guy in the booth. You're. beating the guy in the let alone the. other team. Luke Keequley was like known. for the Isn't that like what he's known. for is he dissected a play quicker than. anybody else and knew exactly what was. happening at all times and can memorize. every single player and their family's. name in one week as he's playing him. He's a special talent. But how about. that Carolina Panthers completely. different vibes all of a sudden. AJ, >> yeah, it is different. I mean, if you're. the head coach, you're canal saying, "Hey guys, I understand we have these.

great legends working. I assume the. radio call. Why don't you guys watch the. TV copy where they're not predicting. everything we're doing? It makes us look. a little different.". >> Yeah. Why don't you uh let's let's maybe. not bury the guy. Could you not bury me, Luke? I'd appreciate that. They're doing. special things. Here's the top five in. the trenches with AQ Shipley of. performing offensive lines coming out of. week six. The Chicago Bears, congrats to. them. Chargers back Colts. >> Okay. Okay. >> They're in there. >> Cumulative. >> Cumulative. Yeah, you're right. And then. you'd mentioned in there one guy needs.

to go ahead and play at the level of. everybody else. He's going to do that. My source says have told me that's case. So maybe number one outright throughout. the rest of the year. Falcons are number. two. Carolina Panthers are number one. Congrats all them. Thank you, AQ. All. right, let's take a break. On the other. side, we got Stanford Steve joining us. to talk a little bit about college ball. And then we got Darius Butler. Everything DB, good D, bad D. A lot of. great [ __ ] left. AJ, >> can't wait, buddy. I know Stanford. Steve, he's uh I know he's got some some. game like big matchups, right, that he. thinks he knows what's going to happen. coming up. >> Nailed it. That is exactly that is.

exactly what we're. >> I mean, I couldn't have I couldn't have. said it better. I actually couldn't have. said it better. >> Poetry in motion. >> I appreciate you doing that. And if this. goes in to that hoop right there, it's. going to be the greatest finish to an. hour three that we've ever had. >> [ __ ] yeah. >> Oh [ __ ]. >> I think that went in. I think that went. in. >> Went in for my view. >> Yeah, the net the net's broken. >> So that went in. >> Yeah, it looked like duck on that one, right? Yeah. >> It didn't go in, but it went in. >> Yeah.

>> Killed it. Ball's been good. Congratulations. I heard. >> you guys. You guys took back the crown. >> Congratulations. >> Congratulations to you guys. They can. never take away that first day from you. >> Never. >> Good run. >> Team D bone and butt certainly held it. down for one day. The first day of the. game and then me and Foxy went to work. on day two. We went to bed understanding. that we can't have what happened. happen again. >> Debbound can't be. >> He was so happy.

>> Just glee would be the term. shorts and. a t-shirt ready to go yesterday. >> That was. >> Was he not as was he sore today or not. as springy? Maybe he didn't recover. >> So, I think his hail Marys just weren't. falling as much as they were. He He's. going to have to find a consistent. fundamentally sound game. And I think. everybody's on their journey of doing. that right now with a brand new game. But boy, Debbone appeared to be. >> the Wayne Gretzky of the game after day. one. >> Wow. >> The great one. I mean, it really felt. that way. And I honestly didn't know how.

we were all going to handle it. I. assumed that the game was going to get. banned if that would continue from the. Thunderdome just because of how it was. going. And then day two, water found its. level and now he's going to have to, you. know, battle back. It's a good game, AJ. We got a good game over here right now. This is a enjoyable. >> You have to throw it one-handed or can. you shoot it? >> You can definitely shoot it. And. >> Oh, okay. >> I'll tell you though, I did some. throwing with Debbone after the games. because yesterday I was like, "Hey, you're gonna have to start shooting it, dude." Like the throwing it just bends. so much. You have no idea where it's. going to go. And air balls minus points.

are like. >> detrimental. You can't It's absolutely. killer. So having a good miss is better. than an almost air ball. Like you don't. want that at all in this game. So you're. going to have cuz he has a good jumper. T-Bone has a good like a pretty good. jumper. So we told him that and then he. just kept throwing and like it was. hitting the rim and then I started. throwing hits the rim. I'm like wait a. minute he might be on to something here. And then I threw one and hooked and I. missed the entire backboard. I'm like. >> that's we can't have that. Debb's like. we're getting those out of the game. Okay. >> So, today he will battle again, I.

assume. >> But the mountain top has the goats at. it. And that be me and Foxy. Abby and. Foxy. >> Here we go. >> Foxy hit one. Last shot of the inning. Two-pointer. >> The game's been close. Like, it's a. great game. >> Ta. Do you like the game still or. >> love the game? I think we walked away. yesterday still with a better uh PFF. grade even though we didn't win. >> Oh, wow. >> Offensively, we brought it. >> There's no YFF here. Okay. There's no U. ball fantasy football static.

>> I'm going to sit up here and grade it. today. >> You don't even know what the [ __ ] our. jobs are. So, you don't even know the. game. >> Perfect. >> You're perfect for the judge. >> No, that you don't even know the game. You can't be doing the judgment. >> cuz me and Foxy might be trying to do a. little something out of you. We might be. setting up a defensive play for later. >> So, we might miss a tip, but that's. actually a setup for later. >> So, you don't know that. >> That's why I'm perfect. >> What if you step on the line though? We. need people looking at the line stepping. because DeBone's feet. I think. >> Oh yeah, >> he's touching the paint a lot and I.

don't want to be like, "Hey, you're. cheating every time because he's not. making it anyway." So, you know, >> also his feet on defense. I mean, he's. on the ground almost every single tip. >> Needs to be in the sky. >> We We've been working on that. >> Yeah. Well, not Well, maybe you. shouldn't be coaching Penn State. >> Let's get to a break. >> K got me fired up thinking about you not. knowing the [ __ ] rules of the game, judging this game, giving out official. scores, and then that is actually. >> Mhm. That's what's going on. >> We got to get to our I got to cool off a. little bit. That's too real. Everything.

just got a little bit too real. Be a. friend. Tell a friend something nice. about change your life. We got good [ __ ]. on the other side. Take five. Jesus. [Music]. >> Whenever you stop by this beautiful. campus, you can sense a radiation of. success and professionalism. They call. it track town because we create. Olympians here. Their baseball team. national champions all over the place. Every sport seemingly very successful. Football awesome. There's cranes. everywhere. They're building this town. up. It's only growing and getting.

better. So, whenever you think about. Kurt Signetti's team, you know, from JMU. and IUP and stuff like that, his teams. just they don't they don't get a chance. to win these types of games, you know, and Indiana last year was certainly a. good fairy tale story, but whenever they. ran into Ohio State, they uh they [ __ ]. to bed. And whenever they played Notre Dame, same damn thing. Couldn't get a stop. So. whenever you think about what's. happening up here, you think to. yourself,

[Applause]. [Music]. You make me want to put my hands up and. wave my feet up and wave my hand. >> Now, you would think that would scare. this year's signetti team. You think. that because auton so damn hard to win. in. smoke sigs around here, they smoke trees.

around here, Fernando Mendoza has no. chance to come in here. I love Oregon. I. love Dan Lanning. I was shirtless with. that man this morning. But my wife is a hooer through and. through. And so am I, baby. Hers. hooers. Hers. [Applause]. >> And the biggest win of Sigetti's career.

The Indiana Hooers tell the world we're. for real. I'll see you both in the. college football playoffs. Indiana gets. a win today. Changes the trajectory of. all of college sports. Congratulations. to Sig in the boys. Sabrina, you're the. goat. Thank you for the shoes. Go. Hoosiers. Have an incredible day of. college football, everybody. We love. you. Goodbye. You know what? I think there's only one. thing left to do here. I've experienced.

cafesito time. I've experienced the. wonderful culture. I've experienced the. beautiful people. And I think we got. some canes over here. We got some pains over here. We got some canes over here. This day in Coral Gables is going to be. one that I will remember for the rest of. my life. Ray Lewis started his dance. right here at Miami. Ed Reed started his.

legendary run here at Miami. The legends of football run deep. The. moments are special. The national. championships are in abundance. Just. last year, a lovely University of Miami, woman diver from Italy, won a national. championship. This thing's been staring. at me all damn day.

You're mine, brother. You're crazy, >> Kirk. I'm a little winded. >> That's what I was going to say. You talk. the whole time you're running. I'll give. you a chance to catch your breath, [ __ ] You're crazy. >> I hope somebody got a lifesaver over. there. My man's out of breath. >> It is a long way to the top. You're. going to jump in and. >> Are you going to jump in there? >> Oh my god. >> Yeah. So, I'm tired for you. Oh my.

>> Oh, he's going to take the jacket off. Okay. Okay. Okay. Oh. Oh, he's taking. the shirt off now. All right. All right. All right. >> Looking ripped. >> Oh, he's taking the drawers off. >> Ladies and gents, the pants, >> ladies and gentlemen. >> Not the drawers. >> Ladies and gentlemen, if you come to. this beautiful campus, you will notice. quickly that the students here love this. university. They love this atmosphere.

and I'm with everybody. I think the you. is back. Give me. the speed. Oh my god. >> Give me the. Oh god. Oh god. Oh god, [Applause]. >> the canes, baby.

>> Here he goes. >> Oh god. >> Here he goes. Feet together. Feet. together. >> So for the pencil. and he's got the. crushing it out. [Applause]. That could be with a refreshing punch. Miami and Florida tonight. Let's have a. look at that again. Check out the form, Herby. >> Let's see the target. We need to. >> pretty good together.

>> Perfect. >> Perfection. [Applause]. and all. >> This is greatest band. At the end of the. show, the four of us have to come up. with one Rushmore together. >> We all agree on the Beatles. So, the. Beatles is settled and now we're. discussing who we're. >> the Grateful Dead. They created the. road. >> I love Radio Head, but if I was going to. pick Radio Head, I might pick Pink Floyd. before Radio Head. >> I'd have to go NWA over the Ramones. because NWA didn't look like anything.

I'd ever seen before. Can we go with Bob. Mar? >> Obviously, last year this segment became. a little bit of a rug. $1.7 million out. the door for good causes and great. college kids. >> Have you ever kicked before? >> Yes. >> What do you mean you've kicked? Hold on. I was told you have never kicked before. I feel like I've been bamboozled a. little bit here. You have kicked before. >> My brother's a kicker, so every once in. a while I go kick with him for fun. >> Okay. All right.

>> Okay. We'll make it $250,000. for you, Logan, >> to start this season. Anything to say. here to Logan as he tries to win. $250,000. >> after that hand gesture, breathe and. close your eyes. Okay. He doesn't want. you to win. I do. So do these people. Oh, >> let's go. >> Logan Kirk Herbsting will be holding for. you. >> Look, by the way, this is this is. >> tough terrain.

>> Tough. >> This is real Ohio here. Glenn kicking is. easy. Everybody says, "Let's find out.". >> Ready, >> Glenn? What are your thoughts? >> I'm trying to give you. >> What are your thoughts? >> This is I think I think that poop was a. bad omen. >> Yeah. I mean, Pete just pooped right in. your face. I can't believe we don't have. turf. >> Well, we're in Ohio. This a football. state. You got to be tough. Logan from. Ohio, sophomore in business finance. Does he win $250,000?

Oh yeah. [Applause]. [Music]. [Applause]. >> Watch the poop. Watch the poop. That's. what I'm talking about. Jeez. Okay. Congratulations. I'll tell you what. $250,000.

week one of the college football season. Thank you for showing up. I'm proud of. you. How do you feel, buddy? >> I feel amazing right now. That That was. amazing. >> I don't want to be the bearer of bad. news. You definitely stepped in Peter's. poop during your celebration, but who. cares? Buy yourself some new shoes from. Glen Pal, K. Back to you, Reese. What a start. >> That was great. >> What a start. >> Hey, why? Let's go.

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hour three of the program begins now. football. >> is a special thing that's college. football national champion Super Bowl. champion AJ Hawk toxic tables here at. boss of Connor and at Tai Schmidt. nine-year NFL vet host of everything DB. good D bad D which we'll see here in. about 20 minutes or so Darius Ju here. Super Bowl champion And the man who just. crowned the Carolina Panthers is the. best performing offensive line coming. out of week six of the NFL season. AQ. Shipley is here. And joining us now. >> live from Hammer, Don Ton Tone Digs.

Good to see you. Tone. >> Hey Pone, we got a big thing about to. happen as you know. It's uh it's time to. dive into another week of college. football convo with. >> Stanford Steve. We appreciate you taking time. We. understand you've been waiting for us. That's 100% on us. So, we got it behind. schedule, but we're thankful for you. joining us. And we've enjoyed this every. single week getting a chance to catch up. about ball, but also just catch up with. you in general. How you doing, Steve? We're big fans of yours. >> Oh, great. I just got educated for a.

whole hour. Felt like hearing AQ, hearing you guys talk, I I'm locked in. I'm usually behind in the NFL prep uh by. this time this week, but hearing AQ, hearing the excitement level, and what. he's ready to go. You bitching about the. Colts being too low, I'm all in for. that. Thank you, Stanford Steve. He. seems like he also agrees with me, which. is why he remembers that. So, we need to. take that in going forward. They're. five- one. Let's never forget it. And. they're healthy and they're dominant. And we'll dive into that at another. time. Uh Steve, let's talk about college.

football coming in. We got a huge one. happening down there in Georgia. Obviously, we're going down to Athens. There could have been a couple other. places, but you got Miss rolling in to a. very, very dominating Dogs of Georgia. Steve, what are your thoughts on this. game? Yeah, the issue is the dogs. haven't been dominating Pat early in. these games. Uh you go back last week. down 10 nothing almost 16- nothing uh. with that fumble and chaos at Auburn. Uh. you know falling behind 14 nothing and. 217 to Alabama at home. They lose that.

game first time in about 33 home games. You go back, we were at Tennessee, it. was 217. That place is as loud as any. building. Georgia's got to figure out. how to start these games better. We're. having Kirby on the show. Uh I hope. somebody figures out how to or you know. he explains what's been going on and how. he's tried to address it because they've. been incredible in these second halfs. Uh last week the the drive the drive to. uh clinch it by Gunnar Stockton was just. textbook. I thought Bobo was great. You. know, outside runs, third down.

conversions, uh using, you know, their. go-to guy Branch as a as a decoy on a. big third down and then they get the the. brutal touchdown to cover for all those. Auburn backers. Uh Georgia is 4-0 as a. seven-point favorite against all uh top. five uh teams uh under Kirby. So, it's. up against Miss who slept walk out of a. buy against Washington State watching. that game last week. And Trinidad made. some plays in the second half uh or else. they were going to lose that game. So, Miss has got to prove it. They gave it.

to him last year uh at home in Oxford. with a great, you know, we saw how many. guys go to the draft from Miss's team, but this is a different test. And I I. like George's offense when you look at. it in its totality. So, uh, awesome. matchup coming up. >> Georgia's offense is there whenever. they've needed it. And obviously, we go. back to Tennessee whenever we talk about. that because what they did at the end of. that game was awesome. What Gunner did. on that fourth down was spectacular. Then they lose to Bam. Obviously, they. had a 33game win streak at home that. obviously gets snapped this season. And. then the timeout clapping extravaganza.

last week is obviously fantastic. Let's. talk about that Old Miss team a little. bit. Lane Keifin has another top five. team. Let's go to Hammer Town. What do. we need to be thinking about this game. in Lane Keifin's boys? >> Yeah, to be honest, I don't know if the. numbers next to either of these teams um. are correct. They they might be a little. too high. Neither I don't think either. of these teams have been super. aggressive. Yeah, the records are good. Um but, you know, this might be a little. SEC bias and where they were ranked. early in the year to where they are now.

Um but no, I mean, Georgia back between. the hedges. They just had their 33game. home win streak snapped. Both these. teams are top 25 in rush attempts per. game. Now, yards per rush, Georgia is. the better team and they also have the. better rush defense. So, I think Georgia. has the advantage there. But, I think. overall both offenses have the. advantage. And I want to get this right. here. So, Georgia's 115th in sacks and. 109th in tackles for loss. That's on. defense. And then Miss is 100th in sacks. and 121st in TFLs. Both on defense. So.

neither one of these defenses are. causing havoc up front. So I think. offenses are going to have their way in. this one. >> Okay. So that's an exciting shootout, you know, between train le and Gunner. Georgia against the spread the last two. seasons. Here's um Hembo stats. Overall. six and 14. Favorites four and 13. At. home they're two and eight. Okay. This. is against the spread, not straight up. This is just whenever they're have to. cover. You said whenever they're uh. favorites of seven or more, they're they. win or whatever. They don't win for the.

betters though. It sounds like they. don't win against the for the betters. What other game were you looking at this. weekend, brother Steve? >> Uh the Seagar game. Alabama and. Tennessee. Uh Tennessee since we've been. there has won every game by one. possession overtime in Starkville. Uh. you know, they they let Arkansas come in. the back door uh last week at home off. of a buy. Uh and Alabama's the hottest. team in the country. Ty Simpson has been. spectacular. uh going, you know, uh I. think Grub and and Kalin going for it on.

third and longs, fourth and longs. Uh. the defense steps up and holds Ahmad uh. to 52 yards rushing, I believe. So, that. was really good to see in a in a tricky. spot, an 11:00 a.m. kick. Their defense. showing out and and shutting down the. nation's leading rusher. Uh Tennessee. has really fallen off defensively. Uh. given up a ton of points lately and and. that Alabama offense matches up really. well. Tennessee I know not sure if. they're going to get those corners back. They were talking about them when we.

were there. They're still not back. One. of them is an NFL player in McCoy. So I. think this leans uh Alabama night game, night show, fireworks, the whole thing. Uh plenty of points scored uh in this. game. >> Okay, we have another stat from Hembo. And Bruce just pointed out some mean. stats here from Hembo. Hypo has a three. plus point road dog. 0 and6 win loss. straight up. >> 0 and six obviously against the spread. Average score 378. >> Yikes. >> Every loss buys 14 plus points. So if.

they're supposed to lose by more than. three, >> it's going to happen is what is what. these stats are saying. Don't love that. Hembo is saying that. That could change. this year though. Let's go to Hammer. Ton Ton Tone. What's up with these Hembo. stats and how much are you looking into. them? >> Yeah, I I mean, hey, like these they're. trends and once trends happen, they're. hard to kick. We we've seen that all. season long. Um and Hypo, yes, away from. Tennessee has been, you know, that's. kind of been the story of Tennessee. They haven't really been able to win the. big one yet under Hypel. They got Bama a.

couple years ago, but that was at. Tennessee. Um, as Steve said, I think. the Bama offense is going to be able to. do whatever they want, especially Tai. Simpson in the passing game. Um, I. believe uh Tennessee's like 120th or. something like that as far as against. the pass. So, I don't think that Bama. offense is going to have any issue. And. then on the other side of the ball, if. they if Bama is going to have an issue, Tennessee runs for over 200 yards a. game. If there has been a question mark. with the Bama defense, it's been the run. game. We've said that the last three.

weeks, but they've they've handled it. pretty well, especially last week. against Hardy and Missou. So, I Yeah, Bama could potentially roll in this one. >> Steve, what the hell is going on with. Ryan Williams? >> What do you Where is he? >> I don't know if he's as motivated as he. used to be. D. >> we all know his PF. >> I keep I keep hearing about how much. money he's making. That's all. >> Hurry's got a real nice house and set. up. He's earned that with his abilities. and we appreciate him and obviously we.

hope he continues to live up to all the. talent that he has and the expectations. But you're right, Tai Simpson's become. the story, not the young wide receiver. who's insane. And they got a who's. number one for them? Uh. >> Orton of Miami. >> Isaiah. >> Orton. Yeah, >> he was him and Jeremy ball. >> Look at that ball placement right there. Come on. That's unguardable. >> Yeah. You called him the hottest team in. the country. Indiana would say uh. >> really. >> not so fast, huh, Steve? Maybe we. >> I didn't say best. I didn't say best.

Indiana's the best. >> Well, and also the hottest then, right? Wouldn't they be the hottest team as. well? >> They're They had a long flight home. You. know, you know, a lot of time to cool down. >> Hey, it was a timeout, but yeah, they. passed the ball away. Okay, check ball. Check ball. Got to move to the next one. That's awesome. Uh let's go to the next. game. Stanford Steven, we need to be. paying attention to old rivalry. >> Yeah, we just touched on the SEC where. it means more. I think this game means. the most this weekend in week eight. Notre Dame's last stand for a ranked.

win. They don't have anybody on the. schedule that resembles a ranked team. the rest of the way. Maybe Pittsburgh, but we don't like talking about Pit on. this show. So USC comes in redot. and very dangerous. >> We were talking about Pit a little bit. earlier. It was about them getting a new. stadium. So it. >> they had a great win this week in. Florida State. >> Hey go Pit. And if that would have been. on the slate, I would like to let you. know I would have picked Pit to win that. game because that does feel like a. Nardoo's win type thing. Uh, you know, gritty picture. We just think, you know,

stadium setup needs to change. >> Maybe we could go to Pittsburgh for. Notre Dame when they go there. You never. know. I don't know. >> Maybe that would be awesome. Actually, >> won't go to the Holy War, but yeah, let's go to pit. >> I'll tell you what, this would have been. a game I think a lot of people thought. maybe game day would head to. And once. again, I can't stress this enough. the. fact that uh I am lucky enough and I. assume Steve says the same thing to be a. part of a show that people like would. like to see at their events you know. that is a very cool thing that we are. very lucky to be a part of that so. anytime there is anger from anybody that. our show doesn't go somewhere or that.

game day goes somewhere we understand. the magnitude of how cool it is to be a. part of something that has that effect. on people obviously it's been this way. long before I got there and Steve got. there it'll be long after I and Steve. leave this will be a thing this is we're. very lucky to be a part of game day. This game everybody thought could. potentially have it and I assume the. next game we're going to talk about the. holy war out there in BYU. This could. have been an epic college game. Not that. Georgia Old Miss won't be okay.

Obviously huge implications. Nine verse. five. Honored lucky to be down there. Used to have the longest home winning se. uh stretch at 33 games. Tough place to. play. Obviously a lot of history and in. the middle of a dynasty still if they. were to go on to win people would lump. this all together for Kirby Smart. lucky. he'd be going down there. This place. though I think would have shut down the. whole state if we would have went out. there. Th this it means something too. this year. Six and0 five and one. I mean. you got real playoff implications and uh. this is big. I I love that we got Bear. versus Dan Pier. I I love the storylines.

that are coming and I like how good both. these teams are, Steve. >> Yeah, and Utah has proved it uh 3 and 0. against the spread as a road favorite. which is tough to do in this day and age. college football. And BYU came back from. the dead last week late night in Tucson. Goes to comes back, goes to overtime, wins it. Bear Bachmire the Mormon stolen. from Stanford. It's still tough to watch. him play for BYU, but we're moving on. And uh plenty at stake. Uh what do we. got? Fourth time both teams in this.

rivalry are ranked in all since 1994. So. there's not a lot of times this game has. meant this much. We know how much they. hate each other. Uh both head coaches. went to BYU. Whittingham won a national. championship when he was at BYU and now. he's the head coach of Utah and had a. serious run uh in that state. So, the. hatred is real. I love genuine hatred. There's nothing better, but uh Utah. feels verified being a road favorite. here um seeing what they're up against. >> Okay. And that's potentially because of. what BYU looked like for most of that. game last week. Obviously, you got to.

take everything into account. Kyle. Whittingham's career record versus BYU. I don't know if you saw these numbers. Obviously, Whittingham BYU alum. >> Oh, yeah. >> Kyle Whittingham showed up at our show. uh whenever we were out there on a. motorcycle and sle. So it was cool. Pretty sweet. >> Yeah, it was pretty sick. Cal winning. him. He's 11 and5 win loss record. against BYU, which also 11 to five. against the spread. 5-1 against the. spread versus a ranked BYU team. And 13. of 16 games have been decided by single. digits. So it's good battle. It's going. to mean something. And uh that would. have been.

that could have been what they call. scenes, I think, out there. Biblical. >> I think that actually holy war. I guess it could have been pretty. biblical out there. Tone, anything we're. missing on the Holy War? >> No, you guys touch on. >> the West Virginia head coach. He played. both teams. We got his pick. >> That's true. >> Yeah, we play a lot of tough teams. Yeah, >> they're both good football teams. We. know that. >> Good football. Ohio University with. Navaro. That's a good football team. >> Pit is a good football team. A lot of. good football teams West Virginia knows. the ins and outs about. You know what I.

mean? >> I don't need to hear anything from you. I don't Northwestern and UCLA. Great. team. >> Great football teams. Great football. teams. Tough to play Northwestern at. home. >> Tough to travel. >> Tough to play Northwestern at home cuz. they come in there and you just think to. yourself, >> it's Northwestern. >> Yeah. Here come the Wildats. >> Are big. >> And I don't even know. Did you guys fill. up for Northwestern at home? >> Did you see the pictures of the stadium? >> No, I didn't see. Do you guys not go? >> You were at the White House. >> There might have been about half that. >> Oh, at no.

>> Oh, really? >> Oh, no. I mean, I bet it was 75,000, 80,000. Bring your room. >> When's the last time that happened? Has. that ever happened before? >> I don't know if that's ever happened. >> Really? >> What? Hold on. I didn't know I just. opened a story that I should definitely. known about. So, you guys didn't fill. that thing up for that game? >> Not even close. >> I've never heard of that at Penn State. >> Really? Someone put a still shot of like. before the white out and then like right. be Okay, so here's this might be it. >> This is during the game. >> No, this was uh. >> Yeah. Well, right as it's ending. >> What's the score? Is this end of game?

>> Yeah, it's when they're taking a knee. >> Okay. So, end of game's tough because. 100 some thousand potentially want to. get out of there. Hard to get out of. there. Can we get one from earlier? >> Yeah, there was one like before the. game. Uh there was one right before the. white out against Oregon and then one. right before the Northwestern and it was. night and day. >> Well, >> no pun intended. >> It's cuz you lose to UCLA the week. before or because you lose to Oregon a. week before that or. >> two in a row early game. But it wasn't. >> No, didn't 3:30. >> 3:30. 3:30. Yeah. Plenty of time.

>> It was bad. >> So, they were done. >> The fans made the decision. >> I think the UCLA thing really sent the. fans over the edge. >> How about that, Steve? Penn State. Franklin walked out there, saw an empty. stadium, and go, "No, that's not good.". >> Right. I mean, that that is that is not. good. >> He made comments before the game. like. we've prepared the team for booze and a. hostile environment for a home game. >> I would like to reiterate this a 100. times. James Franklin has been very good.

to us and always had great energy with. us. I I. >> He was great to that program. >> Great. Turned you guys around. >> Turned us around. Kept us there when it. was in the depths of hell. >> and he'll be remembered as that guy. >> for sure. But it's a results driven. business. Period. >> In the moment though, it's not thinking. like that. >> Correct. But 5 years from now, looking. back, James Franklin had a vital piece. in the Penn State story. >> There's going to be a lot of gratitude. towards him. And without question, >> and he'll say, "Thank you to 49 million. bucks I've got since I've been there.". And also, I agree. We did some good. things there. It's not just negative.

That'll be a good time for Coach. Franklin. >> Absolutely. I mean, I think he's third. over the last 10 years in most wins. across college football. >> Yeah. >> Gosh, it's a tough game. >> Yeah. I think that's why he got fired, right? because he's third in wins, but. he's never Yeah, I bet those other. coaches on that list have national. championships. >> Well, not only national championship, it's like a big win. Signetti going into. Oregon. >> and winning that game. >> for sure. >> on the same at the same. >> This guy's beaten Oregon and you can't. [ __ ] beat Northwestern.

>> Hit the bricks, pal. >> That is bas I think that is potentially. what happened. >> And they had a travel and he was blaming. travel the week before. >> Tough. >> Oh my gosh, there's a lot. That is a. lot. All right, Stanford Steve, anything. else? >> No, I was just saying you were doing. their show from his office like 20 days. ago. >> Yeah. >> Like, and they were on top of the world. up seven in overtime. Coach Saving puts. a white suit on and goes and gives their. gives that fan base a funeral for their. season. >> Jeez.

>> I don't know. S Well, maybe landing a. little offspring, I guess, from saving. There were certainly some seeds of. success there that were planted for. landing maybe in that Oregon team, but. yeah, we were just feet away from JJ. Yeah, that's right. >> JJ, Coach Franklin's friend from high. school. He's right in the glass window. right there on the show. >> It was great. It was a perfect setup. Everything was great. James Franklin. obviously has done great things. I'll be. excited to see what he does next. Uh I. wonder when we'll see him next. That's a. >> That's a good question. >> Probably not for a long long long long. time. >> No, I'm thinking you're wrong. I'm think.

we're seeing him real real real real. real soon. That's what I'm thinking. >> Where? >> I don't You got to look for a job in. sports, right? >> That's what they said. Sports me or. sports. But we talked about this. yesterday, how those interviews could. go, you know, when push comes to shove. on whether or not he wants the spot or. if he is a ball lover and wants to get. back in there. I assume that is the. case. His energy feels like he is a. football guy. >> I agree. I think we'll see. >> Uh Steve, I don't know if you saw We saw. your top 15. >> Yeah. I. >> I don't know if you saw Tone's predicted. college football playoff bracket at this.

point. >> That's a sexy graphic. He's got five SEC. schools, three Big 10 schools, obviously. Big 12, Power Five, ACC in there as. well. And independent with Notre Dame. making it. Congrats to them beating USC. and then continuing to go on a run for. the rest of the year is what Tone Digs. is saying. Also, congrats to Utah. beating BYU cuz Utah is still in the. hunt. BYU is not. Big news. Texas Tech. does its thing and Miami wins the ACC. outright. So, congrats to them making a. win is what Tone saying. anything you.

see here, Stanford, Stephen, how. accurate do you think these projections. are as we sit week seven verse what the. end of the season actually is? >> Well, that's that's what it's going to. come down to. I mean, everybody wants to. know the numbers. We changed the format, you know, so that it doesn't, you know, the buys don't go to the league winners. I saw the analy I'm not an analytics. guy. I just read it and I wrote it down. because I thought I could comprehend it. So, hopefully other people can. Right. now, the SEC is 90% to send four teams. to the playoff. Tone has five, so he's. on point there. And the Big 10 is 89% to.

send three teams, 42% to send four. So, yeah, it's it's it's pretty toph. Everybody's talking about the depth and. and what it is, you know, SEC versus the. field, whatever. Uh the Big 10's pretty. topheavy right now with Michigan getting. getting beat last week by SC and and uh. Penn State not being what they have been. and the SEC. I I don't know if they have. a team that can win the national title, but they're going to have the most teams. in the playoff. I I I think we could.

guarantee that just seeing what those. teams have to play, and the resumes are. just going to look tougher because of. all the games you you still have to go. through. I mean, Alabama, this is what, six straight uh against ranked. opponents. This is the first team that. Alabama hasn't played that hasn't been. undefeated this year. So their resume is. as strong as anyone's even with a loss. to Florida State uh because of the wins. they've attained on the road and now. coming back home against Tennessee&M's. the the outlier to me because they're.

good. Um you know it's probably the. second best win in the country after. Indiana went to Oregon last week which. was the best&m going to Notre Dame uh is. pretty damn good and they uh they don't. play a home game until November 15th. They got three road games and a buy. So, we're gonna know everything we need to. know by November with Elco's team, which. I I know you like Pat and I love him. what he what he's doing on third downs. is just gross uh with dialing stuff up. So, that that looks pretty good. And. Texas Tech is an awesome story. I I.

really hope we can get to a Texas Tech. home game during this run cuz that place. I was there for the Crabtree catch. It's. the greatest night in Love, Texas. And. uh if we go back there, it'll be. absolutely awesome. >> I love that. And I also appreciate the. fact that they're going all in and it's. working, you know? Like I like anytime. somebody goes all in and it works cuz. that is hopefully you know uh an example. for others to follow. Like hey if you go. all in you also have success. When. people go all in and they fail okay. >> that gives other people yeah.

>> say see they're doing all this and they. don't even win. So like we need the. people that go all in and are doing it. to win so that other people look at that. and say that's the model that we need to. follow. We don't need people. >> going all all all all the way in and. then not having success because then the. cheap skates out there go. >> see. >> see just like we said. >> I'm 17 years removed from that program. point another direction. >> this guy doesn't want to be a part of it.

say. >> I'll be back next year. >> they are Penn State that's what you. wanted to say right there. >> I'll be back next here. >> Terry Smith, Western Pennsylvania. >> Love Terry Smith. >> He's the interim head coach. He needs. you. >> Gateway High School, WPIL, Hall of Fame. class. Same year I went in. >> See? Wow. >> And you're turning your back now on the. court. >> I love Terry Smith. >> Okay. So, maybe give a little bit of. respect to the man. >> He's going to get him fired up. I'm. telling you. >> Well, then stop saying they are Penn. State. Start saying we are Penn State.

>> We got a lot of tough games coming up. >> They better buckle up this week. >> Bingo. >> Who's the bingo quarterback? Well, now. the starting quarterback. He's a high. kid. Drunkenire. Yeah. >> Drunken Meyer. >> Grunken Meer. >> Grunk. >> Grunken Meer. Okay. Yeah. Columbus area. Columbus kid. Yeah. He's He's legit. He. can play. >> Well, Drew Aller was a hot guy, too. >> That's right. >> And Drew was a high guy. Hope he. >> he's going to be going back to Columbus. in a couple weeks. >> Godspeed. The surgery. >> No, no, no. >> November. November 1st they play. >> Oh, okay. You're talking about. Drunkenmire. Okay. That Drew Aller out.

for the season, right? Grunkenmire. >> Yeah. >> No. N Granka. No, >> Grunkamar. >> Yeah. B R U N K E. >> That's the best name of sports. Hold on. Bear or something. What's Bear's name. out there? >> Bakmar. >> Bakmar. >> That's a good name. That's a really good. name. >> Thanks, brother. >> There's a lot of really good names. I. mean, >> Tigers. >> Fernando Mendoza is a great name. >> And the Mendoza brothers being on the. same team. They're not twins. Couple. years. So, it's not the Mendoza Twins, but the Mendoza brothers taking the. world by storm down here in Bloomington.

College football's great. We're having a. great season. I'll see you down there in. Athens, brother. Can't wait to get down. there. All right, Finn's up for Gumpy. >> They actually have a guy who's a leading. tackler in the NFL right now. He No, he. is. Here you. >> go. >> 55% more snaps than everybody else. because the defense on field love. He's. tackled a lot of people. Ain't that. right, Gums? >> Yeah. The offense is only scoring 60% of. the time against the defense. What do. you want them to do? >> The leaders need to start taking charge. down here. >> They they need to start saying we are. instead of they are. >> one in particular. Right.

>> I don't like the way you've been talking. about some of this Dolphin stuff down. there. >> I stood up for that man for a long time. All right. >> We deserve better. >> See, everybody right now doesn't know. which man you're talking about. There's. two men that you've been standing up for. for a long time. Hasn't there been? >> Oh, yeah. >> So, why don't we just go ahead and leave. that a mystery on who you're talking. about? Good for you, Gumps. >> Who are you talking about? >> Our quarterback. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> Number one, Uno. >> Okay. Yeah. All right. Tua got it. All.

right. >> He takes the podium today. >> Who does? >> Tua. >> Yes. >> I'm excited. That's what I'm talking. about. We need more questions. We need. more out of that. >> Tu is a lead by example guy. Okay. Now, obviously, his quarterback's got to. speak. He likes to disappear from his. life. He don't like to do all the. spotlight stuff. He's been very open. about that. So, I think we got to take. that with a grain of salt with. everything he's saying. He's trying to. not give [ __ ] to anybody. Wallace are. not enjoying what he's doing. >> Sure. >> And on that note, we enjoy what you're. doing, ladies and gentlemen. The man. Stanford Steve. Thank you, buddy. Steve,

>> I enjoy. Hey, how'd you do on your. picks? >> One and two. >> That's back toback weeks. One and two, brother. >> Stephen, >> all of a sudden that 66% hit rate's. about to become a [ __ ] 50% hit rate. And then all of a sudden now we're 33%. That. >> a quick slide in it from [ __ ] house. to the outouse. Holy [ __ ]. >> The first half Penn State didn't hit, Steve. >> Yeah, exactly. >> Oh, I forgot that was one. >> That set the tone. That was an. >> We got there with coach Savis Kent. State. >> Did they win?

>> Yeah. >> He He really doesn't like him. What. happened? He doesn't really support them. much, doesn't he? He He's not really You. never hear him going to bat for Kent if. you He said he didn't get the job there, maybe. Is that what happened? >> Yeah. Well, he was at Toledo, so I think. he gave them the business when he was. coaching at Toledo. And I mean, you're. not No offense, but like Kent State's. down at the bottom, and you know, Sabin. is going up. He's not going back to go. up. He's keep going up. >> Yeah, I understand. He's moved on. But. you you know there is a moment a couple.

times like once every four shows where. Ken State gets brought up and. everybody's like, "Coach Sab, you're a. Golden Flash." He goes, "They got. terrible players." Dang. >> And that's like the take and then he. just moves on to the next one. And I'm. sitting next to him. I'm like, "Jesus. Christ, they do." I mean, I can't get. anybody. What do you want? I don't I. couldn't coach her. I don't think he's. the best. You're the man. Stand for. Steve Laser. Saving the greatest. He's getting so. comfortable up there. I've told the boys. there's like, you know, the way the.

conversation is structured, it's vastly. different than how this show is. Obviously, the because there's so many. things you got to hit, like obligation. to hit because this is college football. We are covering college football. So, there's like things, you know, like, hey, we're going to hit this. We're. going to talk about this. You got this. You got this. And then Sabin will hear. something that somebody else says and. he, well, I need to say something to. that. Excuse me. So, he he taps his. finger on the desk, right? taps his. finger on the desk and it's like his way. of showing that he would like to say. something and I'm right next to him. So. I see him tapping it first normally and. I look at him. I'm like, "Yeah, yeah,

you're good." I have no say over that. >> I have no say over that. So then I then. I try to go to Re. Yeah, exactly. I have. no say over that. So then I go to Reese. I tell him, get him like, "Hey, Sabin's. ready to go." Then you talk to the truck. and then all of a sudden it gets back to. it and then Sabin says something. And. it's like, yeah. Hey, also you should. not you should just whenever you want to. if I'm talking and you want to let it. fly, just [ __ ] go ahead, dude. You're. He's the best. >> Yeah, >> he is so good up there. >> So good. >> Legitimately. I don't know what his. picking is, though. I don't know what. his picking is.

>> Just the goat. >> That's tough, dude. Picking games is. wild. It's really nice that I'm getting. really lucky with these right now, but. obviously I know what's happening, so. that's why it's a difference. You know, there's a talent in this, obviously. you. know, 18 to 23 year olds just on any. given day showing up and all doing the. same thing is certainly easily. predictable. You know, that's the that's. the thing that gets most seen though. The end of the show is the Knicks. >> You have one bad day on there. Boy, the. air that's tough. It's been nice to have.

a couple good day good weeks, but I know. what's around the corner. You know, it's. been getting a little loud. We've been. taking a look. >> More good days. More good days. More. good days. >> Yep. >> Mhm. >> That's what I was thinking. Yeah, you're. right. I'm never going to miss. No. Why. would you? Huh? >> How much fun is that? Think about how. cool that is. I'm never gonna do one. wrong. >> I'm so If this goes in. All right. >> No, no, no. >> Don't even leave this to chance. You're. riding a hot streak right now. You don't. You don't even You don't need to. introduce anything. True. >> Yeah. No, this is it. This is what the.

universe universal. We need to know. I. would like to know right now. I think. it's going to change my vibes, change my. mood cuz all I'm thinking about is right. around the corner. You know, going 8 to. 10, 8 to 10, 8 to 10 every single week. That's certainly a time. That's a good. time cuz all the people that you picked. against can't really say much because. the team was right, you were wrong. But. boy, you pick against a team and you. were wrong and their team wins. That. opens the floodgates in their eyes to. say whatever they want about you. You. know, anything that they. >> Anything they've wanted to say, not. Yeah, exactly. That's a good one. Out of. nowhere, just an enemy all of a sudden. quickly comes and bang, you don't. So,

when you're winning, it's good. >> When you lose, it gets loud. >> This ball right here will say whether or. not it's going to get loud for me. >> Are you sure? Are you sure you want to do that? You. you like a face up on the blackjack. table or you like face down? >> Face down. >> Okay. >> That's opposite. >> of what I'm doing right now. >> Yeah. [ __ ] that. Yeah, right. I'm not. doing that. >> Okay. >> No way. >> No. >> Why would I even want that to be You're. right. >> How'd you do that? >> Blackjack was a good call.

>> If you miss that, >> I know. >> you're going to get every game wrong. >> I'm going to start fading myself. >> Yeah, I will. I will start walking. I. need clear eyes. >> Yeah, >> exactly. >> Few screens. >> Mhm. >> Yeah, that's what I need right now. >> Mhm. >> All right, let's learn football on the. way up. >> Let's go. >> It's a great way to wrap up a show. whenever you learn at a level that you. never thought was possible. Ladies and. gentlemen, it is time to go inside the. mind of one of the greatest football. minds there has been. It's time to go. everything DB. Good D, bad D.

What up, >> DB? >> Let's start with Good D. one of the best. defenses in the National Football League. coming off a hot prime time win. This. was a big big interception from Dawer. who also had a big sack in this game as. well. So uh second I'm sorry first and. 10 15 seconds left in the second. quarter. Big time. Everybody here is. outside leverage. Start running back. from the beginning real quick please. Sorry. Manto man across the board. You. got split safety look and then after the.

snap that top safety up at the right. hat. He's going to rotate down and kind. of be like a deep robber. The Bills are. just trying to get in the field goal. range, get a chunk play, and no. undercuts him using his outside leverage. big time play. And this sets up an. opportunity for the offense to get. points before the half. Obviously, we. know the Drake London uh almost. touchdown did get it in there, but this. set him up and gave him a chance. So, you talk about complimentary football, this is it. Offer having a big big uh. year. This defense as a whole allowing. under 160 yards per game when it comes.

to passing. Uh, Coach Ba mentioned a. couple times yesterday, number one. scoring defense. So, you talk about a. huge turnaround. Got a lot of rookies. out there playing in some premier spots. playing big time ball. So, shout out to. Brick and the boys over there in Atlanta. turning things around and getting a big. time win against the reigning MVP. >> Okay. So, Carolina game just didn't. happen. Like Carolina maybe a better. football team than any of us could. imagine. So, when it happens, maybe we. didn't show enough respect to the. Carolina Panthers. Nonetheless, they. [ __ ] the bed that day as well. >> Yes, it I mean it's such a a week toe.

league. Sometimes you just wait. Sometime the game plan is shitty. Sometimes the quarterback's just not. seeing it. Young quarterback, too. So, it's young quarterbacks. You're going to. have your your ups and downs. But, uh, he's playing well, the offense is. playing well, and the defense is playing. even better. So, hopefully they continue. to ride that wave over there in Atlanta. >> Wow. >> Yeah. >> I'm just seeing the next team that's on. good D here. It appears they were also. on in the trenches. >> I know. >> Just a few weeks back, they were going. to be in some trenches as a team that. was dead. Now, they're all the way. alive, it appears. >> Yes, absolutely. on the back end, banged.

up on the back end. Brisker, who missed. a ton of time last year, he's back uh in. the lineup. He's playing some good ball. Dennis Allen have these board have these. boys playing some good ball. Second in. the NFL with interceptions with eight. This is Brisker cover three. And now. there are different variations of cover. three. Sometimes this guy is covered. right here. We uh keep it paused for a. second. Uh a talking point. I think uh. Dano mentioned it uh with this game with. the Monday night game. Four strong is. something that Cliff loves with this. offense. He likes to overload the zone. coverages on defense. The Bears do a.

good job of covering their guys up. And. in cover three, as that slot defender, you either drop to a spot or you carry. that vertical. You carry that scene. route. So, if you let it run, he carries. Debo Sammy here. And when you're running. out of real estate deep and you're not. worried about getting beat by a deep. ball, you can undercut this and play the. quarterback. And that's what the veteran. Brisker does there. Just a very, very. smooth interception right here, keeping. them from scoring points and preserving. that three-0 lead at this point in the. game. >> You know, the last time we saw this.

Bears defense play against this. Commander team in this type of setting, we saw the worst defense of all time. >> Yeah, it's true. >> Dyreek Stevens, he's been playing some. good ball this year. >> Yes, he has. >> Think about that team till now. >> Yeah, >> think about it. Laughing stock, fire, everything. Hell, now where they're at, winning three games straight and looking. like a real team. And that that's the. NFL kind of kind of wrapped up. This. team started off 0 and2. There were. moments in this game where they could. have just folded in years past that team. would have definitely folded and just. pissed down their leg. But it's a these.

are long games and it's a long long. season. You can get in a rut. You can. drop a couple games, but you got to be. able to battle. So it just shows you the. leadership not only on the sideline with. the coaches, but in the locker room. The. Eagles right now, the next team on the. opposite side, obviously here, they're. dealing with a little rut here, dropping. two games. Big time. Big time play here. by Flop. Now, keep it paused. We got. pressure. So, it's going to be a zero. look from the New York Giants. And as a. corner, kind of similar to Brisker. When. you get to this area of the field, you. get inside the 20, the field now becomes.

wider than it is longer. So, you're not. necessarily worried about getting ran. by. And then we talked a couple weeks. ago about leverage. So, right here with. that cut split of the wide receiver, he's about a yard inside the numbers. Flat does a good job starting out with. outside leverage, foot up, and he knows. we got more guys than they can block. So, this ball is going to be coming out. quick. So, Herz has to be absolutely. perfect. This ball has to be out in. front where his receiver catches it or. it goes out of bounds. If it's not, it's. going to be in trouble. When you throw. these picks, when you throw these uh.

these balls out to the flat and you're. late or if you're off target, they can. go back to the house. Saquon does a good. job here running them down and getting. them out of bounds, giving his defense a. chance uh to just line up and play. defense. But big time play right here by. FL. How's he been playing this year, Bruce? How you guys feel about 28? >> Uh he's good. You know, it's his fourth. year in the league. He's been rotating. with Deontay Banks, who's in his third. year. This was actually the first game. this year where Flat just played the. whole time. And obviously it uh pays off. here. Uh young secondary, been on baddy.

a bit, but obviously this is. encouraging. Um, you know, on the other. side of the coin, >> I'll tell you what, we've been a lot of. bad beginners around here at the Giants. Everything's turning up Giants right. now. >> Yeah, >> everything's turning up. Giants saw. scatter a boom out there as a big. takeaway. Now the defense, Flat's. getting a pick. That looked easy for. him, AJ. That looked easy for Flot right. there. >> Yeah, it did. Zero Debut say zero. coverage. You know, he doesn't have to. bail. He knows like, hey, man, where. they are on the field. I mean, yeah, just something that for Jaylen Herz and.

this Eagles offense just absolutely. killer. Can't happen. But it was a great. play. And timely, timely, too. 2717. right here. Fourth quarter. So, if they. go in and score a touchdown right here, it's a three-point game, obviously. And. now, not only do you get the. interception, but you set up your. offense that's led by a young. quarterback in a great position to be. able to continue to run this ball and. tick clock off the clock. Tick time off. the clock, I'm sorry. >> Yeah, tick tock. No worries. Time off. the clock. Now, speaking of time off the. clock, as it game gets later, it seems. like this team only gets better. >> Yes, they do. Now, M. Jones threw for a.

ton of yards here. Uh Jamal Dean. actually just won NFC defensive player. of the week. It's his birthday as well. Happy birthday. >> Happy birthday. Happy birthday. He's. missed some some time, but he's played. well this year. Has made big timely. plays. This another one here. Now run it. back a little bit. >> Starting here for M. Jones. This looks. like What kind of defenses look like AQ? >> Single high. >> Single high defense. So probably manto. man, maybe cover three. But post snap. once the ball is snapped, it's going to. rotate and become cover two. So that.

safety is going to get vertical the. corner to bottom. He's going to become. the deep half player. You have your run. through and Jamal Dean does a good job. playing it high to low. So you play the. the high route to force the quarterback. to either put enough air on it so it. gives my safety enough time to get over. the top and if not I go up and make a. big time play. And that's what Jamal. Dean did here. Had a strip sack as well. this game. So a big time game for Dean. and a big time interception. Once again. a timely interception. And they're up. eight right now in the fourth quarter. Big time play right here. M. Jones, I.

wouldn't necessarily say he was fooled. cuz he saw him, but he thought he could. get that ball and layer it over him, but. he went up there and high pointed and. made a big time play. >> He ba butter there. Jamal Dean, named. NFC defensive player of the week for. week six. Dean currently leads the NFL. and lowest passer rating when targeted. at 20.8, is tied for second and lowest. completion rate when targeted, 42.1%, and ranks tied fifth in interceptions. Full release here from Buckers uh. Buccaneers Communication. He's a player. guy. a lot of stats saying he's great. and it turns out good D is also saying. he's great and it appears as if he.

baited butter right into that particular. throw. I love the disguise from one high. to two rolling into that thing. >> got you confused. >> It did. >> AQ had no idea what the hell was going. on. >> No. And I was kind of blown away on how. they got to two. >> Yeah. >> Kind of wild because they sent the. corner. >> and you're seeing that kind of live. You. see down here at the bottom, uh, if you. run it from, uh, back to the beginning, 22, you'll see he starts to get back. early. So, that's the thing about. disguise. I talk about disguise a lot. It It's obviously great when it works,

but you never want to put yourself or. your teammates in a position where you. can't be where they expect you to be. So, it's one thing to be uh in a in a. good disguise pre- snap, but postnap, just have your ass wherever you need to. be, and you'll actually see a perfect. example of a team not doing that. on the. flip side. >> Oh, we got bad things. >> And we flip over to the bad team with. Tampa on off. >> Oh, they got twofer here. >> Fred Warner got hurt. This isn't fair. >> We look obviously Fred Warner being hurt. is a big thing. Bosa being out is well.

shot and peas of Fred Warner. He is my. favorite linebacker to watch play. football for sure. I don't know if he. would have helped him uh on this play. Disguise, if you keep your paws here, that cornerback all the way up top. This. is some variation in my opinion of cover. three. You'll get the late motion with. the back going out there. That kind of. gives you a little eye candy. But that. corner, he is responsible for the. deepest of the deepest on his side of. the field in that third. And obviously. the post safety, he has the same. responsibility. And you have a corner. down here with the same responsibility.

So right now, he's only one yard deep. and he's responsible for the deep third. part of the field. So TZ Johnson, we saw. this play yesterday. Let it roll here. He sees he sees the vacated area and he. just throws that hand up and run it. down. And Baker does a great job getting. the ball, seeing it. BA said this this. probably wasn't even his route. He just. saw the saw that open area and just ran. to it. But that corner, you're never. going to get to where you need to be. with that alignment. You can see him. kind of, you know, we all you slap your. hands or slap yourself in the past. You.

know, you know, you [ __ ] this one up and. they just started with alignment. If. he's aligned, if he's off, who knows. what route TZ actually runs if the. coverage is played properly. But. whenever you do this, that's the thing. about cornerback. Like you can have, you. know, 55 great plays and you mess up. once or twice and it becomes a play like. this. >> MVP. MVP. MVP. >> That's a special that he said, you know, I'm slow sometimes. It's going to take. me a little bit to catch up. And uh the. boys hyping them up saying, "Now you got.

your confidence. Now you're going to be. you." If they continue to add weapons. down there, >> I mean, they're a problem. >> He's got to get healthy. >> Exactly. >> Yeah. If they continue to imagine guys. just coming back healthy like week 13. just dropping in. Oh, we got an All Pro. dropping in. We got another one dropping. in. It's like they're only going to get. better and stronger and somehow they're. still leading the NFC. Oh, another case. of Dallas Cowboys. Bad D and Big D. >> I mean, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. 20 yard. line. We got some variation of two high.

down here. So, you got a a cloud corner. and then you have a deep half safety. Once again, not worried about. necessarily the deep ball, but you're. playing concepts down here because. things happen so tightly. And a very. common concept around the National. Football League is like a high low, like. a a stick dig route. So, if you run it, let it run a couple clicks here. You. pause it here, you see Lee Get about 5. yards from the line of scrimmage, just. sitting up, curling up. So, that lets. that safety know this. I'm sure this is. a concept the Panthers run a ton because. it's ran across the NFL. You sit there.

and then you have a dig or post route. from T-Mac down here number four. But he. goes boom gives him a little eat. >> baited butter went vertical dig and go. Great job by Canales calling it. Great. job by uh Young seeing it and throwing. it. A little Q here. You run it back a. little bit which once again is much. easier sitting here looking at the. screen. But the receiver never looks. back, right? So if you're running the. dig, if you're running the post, you're. going to snap that your head back and.

get it back to the quarterback. the. entire time of him running his route, he's looking at the safety. Once again, a lot easier to see here than it is on. the field because you're anticipating. that you want to jump that and beat him. to the spot. So, a great job having. tendencies as an offense and then using. a double move off of those tendencies. So, he had two touchdowns in this game. uh T-Mac did for him in this big. comeback that we kind of saw uh kind of. a little bit behind the scenes with. Bryce Young miked up. >> Irish Juice is special, huh? They're. saying T-Mac's a real deal. Okay. I I. like that. >> He's got all the tools. He's got all all.

the tools. He's big. He's fast. He's. agile, which you don't really see that. combination much. And then as long as. they can continue running the ball like. they have. >> number one offensive line in in what he. said. >> back to back what? 200 225 for Rico. >> Isn't that weird when you run the ball. how it opens everything up? Isn't that. crazy? Isn't that a crazy thought? Maybe. Cleveland should throw it 70 [ __ ]. times next week. >> Jeez. >> All right. Thank you. A great show. We. appreciate you. We start out with a. little PFF heat. We end it with a little. play call and heat. That's a That's a.

nice little Wednesday. Great work this. week, Debbuck. Great work on Bad. >> Hey, AQ. Thank you for traveling out. here, brother. Great work today. We. appreciate you. I'm excited to see how. you do a ball. >> I'm excited, too. Find a partner. >> Yeah, you do. You need a partner. >> Isn't Yeah. Tony, right? Tony in the. >> Tony did drop Bruce. >> Yeah, >> I did not drop Bruce, but it would be an. honor to play with AQ. >> But I would certainly drop him again cuz. I did drop him the other day. I said, I'm looking for a new teammate. And then. if you want to be that new teammate, I. will certainly drop Bruce.

>> I love Bruce. He just got so down in the. dump so quickly. >> Yeah, he doesn't. >> do that. >> You got to pick him up, Tone. You got to. pick him up. >> Nah, that's not my job. >> No, that's you ball. It's your job. Be. like Bruce. Stay with me. Stay with me. >> It's you ball. It's not Wee ball. >> But you're a team. >> That's good. >> And it's on you. >> Kind of need to win though. >> Bruce, how do you feel about just kind. of getting buried here publicly without. really saying anything? >> Yeah. No, I I mean the Tony was Dennis. Rodman out there. He was grabbing every.

rebound, throwing it down. So, it it was. completely on me. My PFF grade, I. probably give myself like a 36. >> Oh, you're missing assignments. >> 36. I'm. >> not a defensive player. >> I I got a little caught up in trying to. uh catch the ones that just hit the. backboard and drop right away. Bad. strategy. Then I was letting up all the. easy ones that hit the rim. >> Read the rebound. >> Yeah. No, I was trying to re reinvent. the wheel and I should have just been. focused on my fundamentals. Yeah, that. Okay, that's good ownership. Great. ownership. That's good accountability. right there. Tone, I ask you,

>> do you have any regrets on maybe moving. on from Bruce twice after hearing the. accountability? He was doing a lot of. this one's on me. All fingers pointing. back at Bruce there. You got to like. that as a teammate. Are you guys still. splitting? >> Yeah, I mean, he's great. He's saying. all the right things right now after the. game, after the locker room, after the. shower, after things calm down, but. during the game, he was, you know, kicking dust up and and popping and I. just didn't love that. >> A lot of passion. A lot of passion, Tony. I'm not going to apologize for. that. >> You're saying when bullets are flying, boy, there's somebody heading for the. hills and we don't need that. >> You know me. I'm a positive guy. I need.

some positive reciprocation. >> Yeah. Especially in the middle of this. game cuz this game will knock you down. >> Yeah. >> Cuz you're going to fail a lot. >> I want to be downs. >> He's getting a partner. He's the most. positive guy on earth. >> You. >> Me? >> Yeah. >> I can't wait to watch Tone and Q do. their thing. And then the team of the. D's. Are you guys giving up or are you. guys back? Oh, >> hell no. >> You guys are still a team back. I'm. interested to see what Debon is wearing. >> cuz that I hope he's. >> he brought his Duke hat today. He means. business. >> Okay. >> And I think he's got a hoodie, a thin a.

thin like athletic hoodie on like one of. those. You know what I'm talking about? >> Oh, he said he's going tarps off for. this for this game today. >> I'll tell you what, I wouldn't be. surprised if he yesterday. AJ, what were. you saying about uh Debbone and Dutt? >> No, team Team Bone and Butts. I didn't. think they were splitting up already, right? >> Well, >> that's not the team. >> Bones are meant for butts. We all know. that. That's not the team name. We'll. work out. >> the names. >> I mean, you guys are team. >> You're bone and butts. >> Bone and butts. >> Bone.

>> Didn't you hear Stanford Steve said some. team came in the back door? >> Yeah. Stanford Steve does a coming one a. lot. You know, it's hard not to whenever. you see a team just climbing. It's like, oh, look who's coming all over the. place. And whenever true. >> two guys are teammates and D is the. first name of both of their nicknames, it's hard not just kind of put that. together like they do with those. headlines how they put like one big D. >> Sure. >> And then they put bone and butt right. there next to it. Just one D. Bone and. butts. >> Not to mention the coach.

>> Who? >> D. >> Oh yeah. Coach D. And also Kirk the. driver. >> Yeah. >> Yes. That Yeah. Yeah. >> D. Is that who you're talking about? >> Yeah. Yeah. >> He's their coach. I didn't know he was. >> saying he went over the game plan last. night. >> He should be our referee, though. >> He's a great referee. He does not know. the rules, >> but if he learned the rules, he would be. good for me. He would also make good. signals. >> Oh, yeah. >> What are you doing? Is it a one-hand. game? Because it's a small ball. >> You're going to have to figure that. itself. That's on you. It's you ball.

>> All right. I'm good at adjusting. I'll figure. >> AQ is going to be good. I I predict AQ. does very well. >> Thanks, AJ. >> For real. This could be an AQ game to be. clear, but he might also get stuck by. the rim. I I had one yesterday where I. did not put it high enough and got stuck. by the rim. 8 foot rim seems very. attainable. Seems very easy to get to, but you do got to put a little bit of. effort, you know, unless you're debone. who's taller than everybody. He doesn't. jump at all. >> Okay. So, that's part of the problem. because it is tips. Yeah. You know, so. you have to jump.

>> Do you have to dunk tip it or can you. lay it in? >> You can lay it in, but it's much easier. with the size of the ball. It's AQ's. thing to dunk it cuz like it's hard to. get a good You're like Shaq with the. >> with the basket. It's hard to get. >> be tough. It's going to be tough with a. miniscus. >> Yesterday, just yesterday it happened. >> Yeah. Tough day for me. >> Stood up off the couch. I just sat up, stood up, and. that doesn't feel right. And it hasn't. felt right since. I think it's done. >> And it's it feels like a little grally. in there. Or what's it feel like?

>> Yeah, it feels like something stuck on. the outside. >> You guys just rubbing? Does it feel like. the rubbing? Do you feel that or no? Just a stab. >> No, just stuck. Like I can't. >> Can you squat? Can you bend still? >> I can squat. Yeah. >> Up steps. >> I don't have steps. >> Steps do hurt meniscus terror. >> Yeah, that's how you find out. >> All right. Do you have Yeah, you have. steps. I'll get. >> going up obviously is the issue cuz. going down you can kind of do the half. limp step. >> All right, we're going to get out of. here. We're going to go play some U. ball. We'll give you some updates. I'm.

sure you guys are really riveted by. this. You have no idea what the game is. and obviously you've never seen it. before, but this whole conversation is. just for us and we both do Foxy. Good to. see you, champ. >> Yeah, it's nice. It's nice to be champ. again. >> If this ball goes in, >> yes, AQ and. >> Tone, >> we'll win a game today. >> Okay. >> God damn it.

>> That didn't mean you were going to be. champs. That's probably in that other. game is what I was talking about, but I. wasn't going to give that up ever. But. looks like you guys got no shot. I think. it's going to take you about three. quarters of the game to figure out how. to get the ball to the hoop. And by that. point, we're already winning a game. So, welcome to the Thunderdome, brother. >> Hey. Hey, Tone. Why don't you come on. out here, B? >> All my way. >> Gave out your bracket today. Also, uh. got some good callous shins. You know, it had feel good whenever Seven came out. on your side in the entire thing in. Pittsburgh. That's a good voice to have. on your side. >> It was good to have Ben come out on your. side. >> Seven. Yeah.

>> My Lord and Savior. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> You're not the only one that calls Lord. and Savior. Good to see you. >> Be a friend. Tell a friend something. nice. It might change your life. We're. in this thing together. We can't thank. you all enough for allowing us to do uh. this for a living. That's real. We're. incredibly lucky. We're incredibly. thankful. And every um like few months. we get a heads up on how many people are. watching and how many people are seeing. and how many people are spending their. life with us. And uh it's mind-blowing. every time. We're forever grateful. We. have no idea why you choose to do so, but for as long as you choose to do so,

we'll continue to do this. Thank you all. so much. We're in this thing together. Never forget it. Team on me. Team on. three. 1 2 3.