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November 5th 2025 this sports program. begins right now. football. >> it is absolutely magical and we're so. lucky that we get to talk about it every. single day we are now in a world post. trade deadline for all of our NFL teams. did your team get better at the trade. deadline did they take a massive swing. and give up a couple first round picks. maybe so that they can put their team in. a position to go ahead and win a Super. Bowl like the Indianapolis Colts did and. even the Dallas Cowboys you traded away.

a firstrounder. Or are you on the New. York Jets and staring down a full. rebuild with who? Young players that are. good. Well, we just got rid of a couple. young players that are good. We need to. find new young players that are good so. we can kind of strip this thing down and. rebuild it in a brand new image cuz. we've been ass. So, we apologize for. getting rid of some of your favorite. players. And that little boy over there, >> oh no, >> who [clears throat] learned of Sauce. Gardner's release from his father in the. kitchen who would go on to.

>> throw a full on fit temper tantrum, tears, yelling, screams because Sauce. Gardner, his favorite player, is no. longer a member of the Jets and now he's. a member of the Indianapolis Colts. I. would like to let that boy know. Come on. over to the shoe, brother. >> Be smart. >> It is a great time to be a part of the. shoe. We got a team. We got a. quarterback. We got a coach. And we got. an ownership group, the big three that. aren't scared to step right into the. batters box and take a massive hack. Just a few months into being the owners.

of the Indianapolis Colts. They give. away a couple first rounders to bring S. Gardner back. And breaking news, as of. yesterday, uh Josh DS will go down to. business. Uh just like his brother Caleb. and wear the number two. He was. previously the number one. As of two. days ago, he's going to two. He is too. slippery, too good, too cool, too sweet. And he's dons to business alongside his. brother with the number two. Sauce. Gardner will be wearing the number one. for the Indianapolis Colts. As a person. who wore the number one with a lot of.

pride, okay, I appreciate that. The. number one, we had a top 10 in jersey. sales there for a little bit. The number. one for the Indianapolis Colts. It's. obviously slimming. Not as slimming as. the number 11. So that is why I. necessarily liked it. On draft day, uh I. was drafted pick 222. Uh you know, seventh round. There's a lot of. commotion after you get drafted to an. NFL team, especially if it feels like. you're not going to get drafted and. you're going to have to go back to. school. Maybe all the drunks in your. house who have given up hope on you. making it to the NFL are now realizing. like, "Oh, he's he's going to be drunk. with us." Basically, that's what we're.

going to do. And then you get drafted. and it's announced on television and. everybody goes crazy and you're talking. to somebody that's in Indianapolis. They're like, "We got a couple things. What time do you want to fly out for. rookie mini camp? Whatever the earliest. flight is, I'm good with whatever. Thank. you. No problems." And then you got. people, "Yeah, we're fine. We did it. Yeah, we did. Yeah, we did. Uh, what. number do you want? What's that? What. number do you want? What's available? One. Good. I'll take that one. You I. can't believe I have a number. I I'll. take number one for sure. Okay, we'll. see you on Friday. Good. Bang. Hang up. Beers. Celebration. Craziness. Pat,

why'd you pick the number one? Literally, because it was just full. chaos around me. And then once you get. to number one, you're like, "This is a. pretty sick number." All of a sudden, you feel like a sense of purpose. Okay. I'm I am number one. This is not a. winner. Yeah, you start thinking about it. All of a. sudden, it starts looking cool. And then. you start doing well and you're like, wait, I do seemingly have a connection. to this number. I love this number. This. is a cool number. It's better number one. than any other number, I guess. Especially if you're going to do your. job well. And then all of a sudden that. number one just gets handed off to.

somebody else. Literally the year after. I retired. I'm like, no connection. Tell. why would I have any connection to that. [laughter] number? I I I should not feel. a connection to that number. Then it. gets handed off again. Then it gets. handed off again. Then Josh DS gets and. I see him electrified. I'm like, at. least the number one's out there flying. around. Like I I like what we're doing. right there. It's a nice trip back in. time. I love Josh Downs with it. Now, a. guy named Sauce is going to be wearing. it. He's going to look so filthy. This. is his forever. I believe that every one. jersey you see going forward will say, "Garter, I'm going to get one because I. would like Sauce to know that we are. very thankful that he is a member of the.

Indianapolis Colts." Obviously, it's the. headline of trade deadline. It's the big. storyline and we're trying to get, you. know, more information as it unfolds. How'd we get here? You know, there's a. guy named Seth uh uh. >> Wald Walder. >> Yep. Seth Walder. >> Seth Walder works at the ESPN. Now, we. looked him up. We don't know if it's his. accurate account or not. 77 followers or. so. So, Seth says it. Uh we know that. it's a big deal. He said that Colts got. a D on this trade. And uh the Jets go, okay, because they also get AD Mitchell. alongside the two first rounders. Saw a.

lot of people potentially saying that. that's the case. Hey, Jets fleece the. Colts. Jets fleece the Colts. If we're. Sauce Gardner away from winning a Super. Bowl, bingo, >> fleece us all you want. Fleece whatever. the hell you want to fleece cuz we'll be. wearing our fleces and right outside of. them will be a [ __ ] Super Bowl ring. And the Colts think that this was a move. that can put them in a position to go. win. I I I I asked big three, you know, hey, this is a huge move. Congratulations. Very thankful you did. this. It's a message to your entire fan. base, to the entire NFL. Hey, we.

understand what window we're in right. now. we're going to go for it and we're. not scared to get a deal done whenever. some other people would not maybe push. it through. We'll do that. And also, uh, they trust Chris. Like, hey, Chris. Ballard has always said, "We like our. guys. We like our guys. We like our. guys." All his guys right now are. playing the football that they're. playing. They just bring in a. quarterback and a couple other culture. setters and then all of a sudden we got. a super team. And that's what it feels. like here in Indianapolis. So, you can. say it's a D. You can say we gave up too. much. We here in India are like, "Well, we're in a [ __ ] Super Bowl because. Sauce Gardner's on the team." reach out.

to Lou Anarumo, defensive coordinator of. the Indianapolis Colts, say, "Hey, what's cool?" You know, he spoke to. press uh right before the trade. happened. So, just want to get his. thoughts on it. Love the addition of. sauce. It gives us another Pro Bowl. corner. The guy's been a lockdown player. his whole career and gives us the chance. to match him and Ward up on different. receivers. Two super smart football. players. I can't say enough about S. Gardner being on our team. We just. elevated our whole defense. His Lou. Anarumo, who every player that's ever. played for loves him. and you see his. defense and what he's been able to do.

for us this year. Had a couple injuries. Obviously, we're trying to figure it. out, but they've invested a lot of money. into this defense. We invest in Lu. Anarumo as our defensive coordinator. Obviously think the offense good with. Shane Stiken. Let's lock up the defense. What did you get from that quote from. Lou? Cuz whenever he said they're both. super smart players and we're able to. put them on receivers, what does that. mean you think in Lu Anumo's eyes with. what he can do with the defense? >> Man, that just gives you so much. freedom. uh so many more uh resource, so. many more different places that you. could put resource like a left tackle. who you can just put on the island just. put by themselves with all these teams.

We look around the league, especially. the teams that's going to be there in. the end, they have one, two, maybe three. like weapons that can kind of change the. math. So when you have corners that can. offset the other side, chest pieces. almost that can match up with these. different receivers, that's huge. And. the Colts, they kind of played their. most man-to-man coverage last week. against the Steelers. Obviously, we. lost, but I feel like the defense had a. pretty good outing. Played a lot of. man-to-man. So, maybe that's Lou wants. to do a little more of with this. defense. You know, all the different. things that he uh as far as disguise,

different simulated pressures, blitzes. When you do all those different, a lot. of these coverages on the edges, they. turn to manto man for the corners, quarters, cover three, uh all these, they turn into manto man once these. routes released down the field. So. getting a weapon like this if he can. play up to who he's been in this league. at his peak now I would say it's kind of. been a not a fall off but a little. decline in his play I would say probably. last season and a half maybe but I think. fresh start new plays he can definitely. get back to being that top two three. corners for sure.

>> Super Bowl. >> he he immediately goes one and seven. yeah okay. >> to seven and two hey we're trying to go. for a Super Bowl and you saw what we. just gave up for you it's like this team. is very thankful for. that type of mentality and mindset. coming into a place. He's going to be. welcomed and he's going to be celebrated. like hell and the number one is. hopefully going to be gluing guys down. Uh let's talk about some other. storylines. Obviously trade deadline. day. It's basically been announced now. Jacobe Brassett's starter for the. Arizona Cardinals. Congrats to him. >> Yeah. Wow. >> Jacobe Brassette, former starter for the. Indianapolis Colts. This man, I was.

pushing for him to be the MVP that. season. He led the Indianapolis Colts. whenever we were in the middle of a. quarterback carousel in phenomenal ways. He was a leader. Everybody loved him. He. was calling meetings. the team would. obviously fight for him. He was doing an. offense it Frank Reich I believe offense. in a way that we hadn't seen and it was. like everybody's on board. This guy is. leading the Colts to to the promised. land. Now obviously one thing leads to. another. He ends up leaving us. He goes. to another job, goes to another job, kind of bounces around. Jacobe Brassette. backup quarterback. Why is this guy. still in the league? A lot of people. say, "Well, it's because he's a damn. good football player." And out there in.

Arizona, they haven't had a chance to be. able to get him on the field. And that. offense is executing better with him. than anybody else we've seen, including. Kyler Murray, who they just paid $200. million. We were talking to Bruce Arens. yesterday, former coach of the Arizona. Cardinals. And he said, uh, Kyler Murray. is going to be a starting quarterback. for that team whenever he's healthy. Uh, a lot of money was given to Kyler. Murray. There's no way they're just. going to let that kind of just sit on. the sideline. Then just a couple hours. later, yep, we are. We actually will do. that. They're moving on with Jacobe. Let's go to their color commentator, the.

Arizona Cardinals. A man who knows this. team a lot better than maybe anybody. with uh the research that he's had to do. to call these games for the Arizona. Cardinals fans. And he rides the wave of. the game. >> Oh yeah. >> I mean, he rides the wave. He kind of. got shades of iron cop in there whenever. he's talking about stuff. The legendary. Pittsburgh Steelers uh commentator AQ. Shipley here. Now AQ, >> obviously you played for the Arizona. Cardinals amongst many other teams. You're a Super Bowl champion. Now you're. doing color commentary for the team for. the local audience. What are what is the. reaction out there? You know, because.

obviously BA's reaction was it would. never happen because business-wise. Uh. across the entire league, it's like. Kyler Murray's upside. Well, he could be. he could be special. Obviously, very. high draft pick. Very very high draft. pick. Uh in Arizona, how do they view. it? Is everybody on board with Jacobe? Like basically fan-wise, and what does. this mean for the future, you think, with Kyler and the Cardinals? >> They love Jacobe Brassette. He's been. fantastic. And when you watch what he's. done, when you look at him against the. Colts, then to the Packers, two of the. best teams in football, the offense was. so much more fluid, so much more.

efficient. The ball's getting. distributed to more people. He has been. fantastic. And then he comes out against. the Cowboys and was basically flawless. The one interesting thing, he's been. fantastic on third and long, whereas. typically you typically go draws, you go. screens, you do all these things, he's. hitting third and 23, he's throwing a 43. yard pass, and they're getting first. downs. He's been fantastic. He's great. in the play action. He knows Drew. Petting. And he's distributing. He's. thrown more touchdown passes to Trey. McBride this year than he has thrown to.

Trey McBride from Kyler his entire. career. >> Yeah, I heard Trey McBride more. touchdowns in like the last three games. than Trey McBride and Kyler throughout. the entirety of a couple seasons. Adam. Sher reported that Kyler Murray's uh. Kyler Murray and the Cardinals have. consulted with multiple doctors on his. foot injury and have been told the. timets for recovery have been anywhere. from four to eight weeks. Okay, one. month, two months with an increased. chance of set back until it's properly. healed. Murray now has more time to. heal. Well, the Cardinals get a chance. to kind of experience what Jacobe. Brassette could be as a starter. Deb, but that's kind of a that's good news.

Get him completely healthy and also get. a chance to see what it's like for. Jacobe. That's in a good spot for the. Arizona Cardinals, you think? >> Yes, it's a good spot. It's a good. problem to have. Obviously, we always. said now if you have two quarterbacks, you don't have any. So, you do want to. have a clear direction with whoever that. guy will be. Now, with Kyler not being. 100%. I know a lot of people were kind. of calling this a soft benching. I did. see a quote uh I believe from Jonathan. G. I don't know if it was confirmed. I. did see Rap Cheat retweeted. So, I kind. of took it for, you know, it being the. truth and basically saying even if Kyler.

was healthy, they would be going forward. with Jacobe, which is which is wild. It's a big decision. Uh but. >> Oh, Burns and Gambo are on it though. They're on it. I mean, once I saw rap, she put stamping and I said, "All right, [laughter] it got to be real." What's. that? Burns and Gambo are his peers. >> My peers. >> Those are his. >> Those are my cooworkers. >> Hey, you did good interview. Good quote. Good quote there. Debut from Burns and. Gambo who we certainly appreciate. >> I mean that that that's huge. So it is a. I mean it's a real benching at this. point. Now you still want him to get. healthy, but you are going forward with.

Jacobe and he's proved it. It's is you. get your opportunity, take full. advantage of it. You can't lose the. locker room by saying, "Hey, we're going. with this guy because he's making $40. more million dollars because we're. fighting. This is a team. This is a good. football team, you know. It's a good. football. >> Even last year, remember, they didn't. win a lot of games, but it's like. defense is going to be uh stubborn. Defense is going to be stubborn. And. they were going to fight and fight and. fight. It was like a lot of close games, close games, close games. Then this. year, close games, close games, close. games. It's like they're not as. looked. Just like the Colts kind of. The.

Colts were a team that was much better. team than what like didn't make the. playoffs last few years. Colts were a. much better team than what their record. showed. I think Arizona kind of the. same. Now, their record is still ass. though. I mean, it's still an ass cheats. >> record right now if you look at that. But a lot of football left to maybe go. on a run. >> They have a long way to climb. There's. really no room for error moving forward. But they're doing it differently than. they have in the years past cuz their. run game coordinator went to Dallas this. off season. They relied solely on the. run the last couple of years. 13. personnel. They ran the heck out of the.

ball. Now all of a sudden, they're. becoming a passing team. They're doing a. ton of play action. They're pushing the. ball down the field. for Jacobe. >> Jacobe might be a sleeper fantasy pick. He might be go and trade for Jacobe. Sounds like they're going to be throwing. the ball a lot. Marvin Harrison Jr. said. whenever he was told that he was going. to be a focal point in the Dallas. Cowboys plan, he was excited about that. And then I saw somebody tweet go, "Yeah, the guy should be a focal point." Yeah, maybe we should be focus maybe we should. do that. But nonetheless, Arizona. Cardinals make a massive what's next for. Kyler. you know, the natural instinct. for, you know, football fans, especially.

whenever Tyler has as much talent in his. pinky as, you know, some people have in. their entire bodies. And we're talking. about a super athlete here. This guy, unbelievable. We've obviously seen the. highlights on football fields where he. runs for three miles and he's out. running everybody. We've seen him full. speed run and have a perfect throw. We've seen him be able to do things on a. football field that are very special. athletically, but he's also top 10 draft. pick in MLB. Okay. Like also top 10. draft pick in MLB, how old is he? Can't.

be that old. Like. >> 27, I think. >> Okay. So now the question is if this is. from Burns and Gambo, you know, and they. know. >> what's the station. >> 98.7 Arizona Sports. >> Nice. >> Nailed it. >> Your peers. >> Hell yeah. Nailed it. >> But what's next for Kyler? You assume. that maybe another team will say, "Hey, if we get him in our building, he'll be. able to be unbelievable." But is there a. little bit of collar that's maybe. thinking, "Hey, I I I could see that. curve. I I could see that curveball and.

he's still young enough. He's still. young enough to potentially be able to. do that." How impossible would that be. in that conversation? And how realistic? Probably not that much because other. teams will want him. But we're talking. about a freak athlete here whenever. we're chitchatting about Kyler. And I. think that gets forgotten about with all. the other stuff. >> Yeah. I mean, the video game stuff, pausing the contract stuff, and then. this stuff and that stuff. And it's. like, hey, we're talking about a special. elite uh athlete that has ever been one. of one. >> top 10 in both football and MLB. So, I.

think that kind of gets lost in the. conversation about all this. >> Yeah. I mean, I don't think he he he. hasn't played baseball in like six years. and who knows how much, you know, he's. like going to the batting cages cuz I'm. sure he can still do that kind of stuff. like pretty easily. But the big thing is. is like he hasn't played in six years. So, it's not like he's going to be able. to, let's say he's done with football, he's not going to go sign with like the. Red Sox and then be on their opening. day. >> I see Russell Wilson training. >> I see Russell Wilson comes jogging out. >> Yeah. He goes to spring training. He.

gets two at bats. He strikes out. He. looks like an idiot against like a guy. who has been playing baseball. It hasn't. just taken six years off. >> I hope Russell Wilson tweets you right. now. >> I hope he does, too. That'd be awesome. >> That would be awesome. That would be. awesome. Hey, this guy can't hit a. curveball either. And what if Russell. Wilson says to you in response to on a. tweet says, "I'd take you yard 10 times. just straight." Why don't you pitch. against Russell Wilson one? >> I would love to. And I would hope. Russell Wilson would take me yard 10. times because he's a Super Bowl winning. quarterback. He's an unbelievable. athlete and he's also got drafted to. play in.

>> But how sick would that be if you struck. his ass out? >> That'd be pretty sick. And you know. what? I was going to say, you know, he's. never seen my knuckle curveball. So like. we'll just we'll say that. But the big. thing about Kyler is you make $200. million. Like if you had made $200. million, do you want to go back down and. play single A double A and be on buses. with guys who like that's never going to. happen ever. >> Is that what he has to do? >> Yeah. There's just there's no there's no. way that I mean I I suppose he could get. invited to like a team spring training.

and then all of a sudden it's like he's. batting 500, he hits a bunch of homers, but there's just no like over the. >> imagine Kyler walking into spring. training. haven't played in six years. How do you do? Steps in there. Bomb. >> But it'd also be a thing like, you know, with TB like the you know how much every. one of those guys is relishing like. >> you know I'm I'm going to strike this. [ __ ] out like this guy thinks he. can just come in. Yeah. No, but but. that's what I'm saying. It's completely. different. Obviously T-Bo like. >> these guys knew that was kind of more of.

a publicity stunt. Like yeah, he had. played baseball before, but like Kyler, you know, I mean it was. >> he couldn't catch a fire. got pop-ups bouncing off his head going. into the crowd. [laughter]. >> As somebody that played Frontier League. baseball alongside uh Michael Jordan as. well, >> I would say what I was doing a little. bit of a publicity stunt. >> Little bit of a publicity. I had a. microphone. >> Miked up. >> I was miked up having a conversation. Maybe a little ahead of our time. Yeah. You know, uh now that you look at that. entire thing, that was Tim Ta was on. these buses driving tonto. I don't think.

he was doing it as I think he was trying. to make it in MLB. Like I think he was. >> I agree. He absolutely was. Do you think. personalitywise u how similar do you. think Tim Tibo and Kyler Murray are? >> Well, so what if Kyler Okay, so let's. get rid of all the bus taken. >> Okay. >> In the single. >> That's a pretty big part of it though. >> Well, let's get rid of it. >> Okay. All right. >> Let's get rid of it. It's out of the. way. >> Okay. All right. >> Now we're double. >> Every game is in his backyard. >> Big [laughter] traveling to him. He's. got the money. We're buying the tickets.

>> Exactly. Okay. >> Let's they move double A out of there, too. Let's say it goes in AAA. Okay. Like they did with Mr. Skins. Okay. He. comes in Triple A. Maybe here in. Indianapolis. >> Maybe. >> Would be great to have him. >> It not a chance that they would just. drop him in Triple A because he's a. 28-year-old who might be a special. talent. >> Maybe there's a chance because I assume. with a guy like that, like you said, like he he is one of one like and it it. could be like riding a bike, but I I. mean just it's a lot. It's obviously. very difficult. Like all these guys talk. about how hard it is to hit a baseball.

and I'm assuming that like if you need. to be if you're going to be an NFL. quarterback like there can't be any like. he is all NFL. He hasn't probably. thought about baseball. >> That's not what I've heard potentially. >> really. >> I've heard that maybe maybe there is. back the ball in some of the workouts in. the offseason. >> Okay. So if that's the case like yeah I. mean I I again he it might. >> No, we are not telling you you should. quit football. Okay. I'm not telling you. that. But I'm saying if an opportunity. presents itself for you to be one of the. first of all time to do something, I. wonder if that is something that kind of. spurs motivation, inspiration to maybe.

go and get it or another NFL team would. say, "Hey, you get in our building. You'll be Imagine with Kevin Oonnell.". Not that they will because J.J. McCarthy. is going to be a guy. But you start. thinking about like offensive gurus like. that. If McDaniel got, you know, with. Caleb Williams, would they be able to. time something up and be able to come an. efficient offense, especially because he. has an absolute host? Now, can you break. down a defense? Will he spend all that. type of stuff is the whole conversation, but we're talking about a special talent. and we need to never forget that. >> NBA BA obviously he's not coaching now,

but you would think a lot of coaches. probably still think like him, especially offensive minded coach like. NBA definitely was not out on him. He's. still Hey, Kyler can still be a guy. There's still a lot of tread on his. tire. He's 20ome years old. We talk. about the freak athlete that he is. He. has the arm talent. We've seen. quarterbacks go to different system and. different coaches and and you know. personality and all that stuff matters. as well. But you know still I think I. think we'll obviously see Kyler Murray. on the football field but I mean look I. I I would love him. >> I don't want to I don't want to see him. dying single. A Tyler you're.

representing the NFL. >> MJ did it right. Where do you go? Where. was the Baron? >> Yeah Birmingham Barons. I double A. >> Okay. Yeah he did. I mean you know MJ. ain't do much [ __ ] now but. >> well back then also there was no. internet. There was no Call of Duty. I. don't think there was no uh really. anything else to do, you know. So, >> MJ MJ had [ __ ] to do. >> Always did, didn't he? [laughter]. He was good at all of it. >> How about his like legendary golf. stories? Playing 36 holes before like a.

game four or whatever, game three, >> scoring 50. >> Yeah, >> I I played 36 holes with this guy. He's. playing tonight. It's a playoff game. Drops 32. Winks at me as he's going out. It's unbelievable. Guy different. Couldn't even imagine him in the modern. world, you know, with all the content. that is happening. Imagine him on a golf. course day of a playoff game. Imagine if. they caught Tyrese's big ass [laughter]. on the day of a playoff game. He would. get absolutely. >> eviscerated. Joining us now is a man who. might have a little bit more information.

on all the moves that we saw yesterday. He's an insider everywhere. Has friends. literally in every single building. Now. he's with ESPN, formerly Emmy award. winner at NFL Network. Ladies and. gentlemen, Peter Shreger. Craig, how you doing, brother? We're. talking about Kyler Murray. Any thoughts. on that entire situation over there? >> I'll tell you this. I was there Monday. for that Monday night football game and. I'm walking around the field before the. game and I'm, you know, talking to. everyone, doing my thing, kind of. kissing babies, shaking hands, whatever. And everybody in Arizona, you know, was. talking about Jacobe Brassette and and.

how good he had been the last five weeks. and what a shame it was that he wasn't. able to get the victory. And they had. three walk-off field goals. And the. elephant in the room is there's Kyler. Murray standing there. He's dressed in a. Dallas Stars jersey. He looked great and. he's there on the sidelines and he was. nine and0 in his life going back to high. school, college, and the pros in that. building. And he was just a complete. non-factor in this game because he was. out with the injury. But the juice. around Jacobe was so real that I came. away from this one thinking like I don't. know if they're just pumping him up or.

not, but like there's maybe a future. with Jacobe Brassette as the guy there. The problem is Kyler's contract the next. three years it's over like a hundred. million dollars in dead cap cap space. So what do you do with that? But in a. post Russell Wilson era where teams just. say rip the band-aid off. That that. might be the move. I I I'll say this. They are still paying Cliff Kingsbury. his full salary. They are still paying. Steve Kim his full salary. Those guys. are from a different era. Those are the. guys who brought Kyler in. These new.

guys, Ganon and Monty Austin and his. crew, they didn't draft Kyler. They. didn't sign him to that extension. And. if you go to the owner and say, "Hey, we. tried it for two years. We're going to. move on. We got to take a financial hit. We'll figure it out." They might be more. open to it than if they were the guys. who actually drafted him. >> That's crazy. Yeah. Anytime you got a. new GM or new coach, new power, uh you. have new allegiances and new loyalties. and new visions. you know, how you see a. team being is not necessarily the team. that you've inherited uh whenever you're. in charge. And uh I experienced it. You.

know, we got a new GM and I was. literally told during the negotiation. process that there is no loyalty between. us and it was like really? Wow. Yeah. So, I was literally told that piece of. information. It was like, oh, okay, sounds good. So, I'm gone, I guess. And. then Jim Ers says, "Nope, you're. franchise tech, brother. You're not. going anywhere for at least a year. We're going to figure this [ __ ] out.". And I was very thankful for Jim for. that. But there was certainly a time. where new GM came in and I was not a. good punter, but I'm low man on totem. pole and I'm being told that. Couldn't. even imagine whenever it's 20% of your. salary cap, 22% of your salary cap as.

you're trying to build this team up. Uh. it takes a lot of courage to make that. decision. On that note, the big three. here in Indianapolis sign off on a. massive trade to get Sauce Gardner to. the Indianapolis Colts. He'll be wearing. the number one. Obviously, two ones and. AD Mitchell go to the Jets. Everybody. that knows Sauce has said, "Man, awesome. dude. Awesome in the locker room, awesome player. You're going to love. him." Fans and some other people say the. Jets are getting two firsts and AD.

Mitchell for just saw Gardner. What is. your take on how this trade played out? And I don't want to say winners or. losers, but just maybe your takeaway. from it all. >> I loved it for both sides. >> Indianapolis first. That like that was a. little trick. Indianapolis first. Um, this is a team that looked at their. roster and said, "Okay, we're not this. young squad of just first and second. year players." Like DeForest Buckner is. a veteran and Quinton Nelson is a. veteran and Kenny Moore and those guys. deserve us to go allin at their ages and.

what they've done for the first half of. this season to go all in and make this. move. I will tell you, speaking to. sources around the league and with both. these teams, Chris Ballard has been. calling around the league for a move. over the last several weeks. Sauce. Gardner's name was not mentioned, but he. had been calling the Jets about players. on their team because they were. obviously in a fire sale mode. About 48. hours ago, S's name came up, and the. Jets were not looking to trade Sauce. Gardner. Remember, the same first year. GM who just traded him, Darren Muji,

signed him to a 4-year, $120 million. extension in July. And this is his first. year, his first massive move on the. defensive side of the ball. But when. that deal came in, it was almost. described as like a godfather deal that. they offered that they could not say no. So, I like it from the Colts side. because Ballard looks at it and says, "All right, we've got a veteran team. They're all healthy. We're playing good. ball. We've got a crazy tough stretch. coming in the next four weeks. We need. to stay on the ball. This guy makes us.

that much better in an area of. weakness." And from the Jets part of it, they just got what essentially the. Cowboys got for Micah Parsons for Sauce. Gardner who's got 18 career wins in four. years there. So they weren't going. anywhere. They haven't won with Sauce. and Quinn. They were like crap, we can't. say no to that. And to Ballard, like all. chips on the table, here we go. Like. we're all in on this team. >> Big swing. And if Sauce is the one that. lifts this defense to, you know, to a.

place where we can win a Super Bowl, who. cares about the future? BA said. yesterday, uh, whenever we got Gron, the. fourth round came around, we didn't have. our pick and we all just looked at our. ring. Oh, there's our fourth rounder. right there. There's our fourth rounder. right there. That's pretty nice. And. then we move along. First rounder. obviously different than a fourth. rounder. But if this works out and we. win, nobody will say a damn thing about. anything else. >> I love it. You're right. And it's the. same thing that talking to McVey and. Sneed over the years when the Von Miller. deal happened. Now people always talk. about that team and it's f them picks. and they got Ramsay and they got Odell.

and all this stuff. Von Miller was the. move at the trade deadline. They called. Denver every day for about two weeks and. then finally the last day they were just. banging on it so hard that Denver said. fine take Von Miller here. We'll get the. exchange. That's what this was. And I. came on your show last week and I said. don't read all the stuff online. Don't. listen to the thing. There's going to be. a big name, but those names don't even. become evident until the day of. I said. that on this very show. I said, don't. read, like, don't get fixated on the. names that everyone else is talking. about. There's going to be a big name.

that goes the day of. And that was S. Gardner because I will tell you S had no. idea he was being traded. Other teams. around the league were texting me being. like, did you know he was up for sale? I'm like, he wasn't up for sale unless. you offer two picks in a in a wide. receiver that they can use on their team. today. >> I like that the Colts are that. aggressive. They're going to be judged. for it going forward. And I think our. team is in a good spot. Lou Anorumo told. us he's happy. He's pumped up. Love the. addition. He, you know, it elevates the. entire defense. What he just did for the. team. He just Lou Anarumo is so excited.

Remember, think about where Lou was and. what was going on. Okay. Losing all his. players. We're not paying. Yeah. Yeah. Right. Defense stupid. Nobody's paying. tickets. Nobody's buying shirts. We're. selling jerseys on offense. We're not. selling jerseys on defense. We're not. paying any of your guys on defense. L's. like, "Well, what am I supposed to do. here? >> Figure it out.". >> He loses. They say, "Get the hell out of. town." Chris Ballard. immediately. Excuse me. You're available. right now? Yeah. We would love to have. you. And guess what we're going to do? We're going to sign three guys this.

offseason on defensive side. And then. right before trade deadline also, we're. going to give you a guy, another. lockdown guy. It's like Louis Anarumo is. sitting in a place that I assume he. would any defense coordinator would love. to be in. team clearly investing on the. defensive side of the ball while. assuming that the offense is already. figured out. If this works, that's. great. Now, on the flip side of that, this New York Jets team seemingly. sending a message. You said fire sale. Go ahead, Debo. >> Yeah, absolutely. Fireell just a full. rebuild, get letting go of these uh. young phenomenal players that you.

already paid like what's the how does it. what's the vibe around Aaron Glenn? Do. you feel like they'll be patient with. Aaron Glenn and actually let him build? You would assume they're going to use. this draft capital to go get a. quarterback, kind of start that new. chapter, but we've seen the Jets do this. time and time again since probably Rex. Ryan's departure. So, what's your. thoughts with um Aaron Glenn and the. patience level with him? >> You have to try to separate the history. of this team, which has been plagued. with, you know, quarterback selections. in the top five that haven't panned out. and have had success elsewhere and where.

they're hoping to go. I will tell you. this, a lot of the organization was at. the mangled services yesterday and they. purposely held any news of these trades. until afterwards and Darren Muji was. like, I'm well aware of what's going on. right now this morning during this. I'm. not going to try to make a headline. here. However, the night before these. deals were pretty much done and put to. bed and they felt comfortable because. now it gives them the flexibility. to do what they want with a quarterback. We know that this isn't going to be the. quarterback draft class of 04 or even.

2023 or one of these groups where it was. coming out like, hey, there are six. guys. In fact, every week it seemingly. changes who's the guy. So, what this. does is having five first or second. round picks in the next two years. It. gives you a little wiggle room. Do you. want to trade up to get one in 26? Do. you want to stay pat and get one in 26? Do you want to save that for 27? use. those picks to maybe get one. Or do you. want to package them and get a veteran. quarterback in a monster trade because. he's now got five first or second round. picks. This didn't exist before.

yesterday. They didn't have this. flexibility. They have this flexibility. now. And before we say, well, the Jets. are going to screw it up. Let's give. them a little grace. Darren Muji's. actually have a pretty good draft. If. you look at those rookies on that roster. right now, they're playing pretty well. And the offensive line, which was what. the focus was, has been really good. So, let's see about it. Let's give him a. little grace. Let's give him a little. patience. But you can't hold regimes of. the past and the failures of Zach Wilson. and the failures of all the different. quarterbacks that have come through.

here. You can't put that on Darren Muji. and Aaron Glenn just yet. >> Well, they paid Justin Fields 20 million. a year. Now, obviously, that is who they. thought was going to be their. quarterback. Maybe he will be. I mean, who knows how the rest of this season. goes. Uh, and maybe they will save it. for 2027. That's an interesting thing. You say you can't hold the regimes of. the past uh or the current regime kind. of their feet to the fire for the past. regimes. Jets fans are. >> Jets fans are just like, >> "Yep, that's what we thought. We'll. trade away all our young good players to. try to find other good young players and.

then that'll work cuz we hit on these. guys. These guys are really good." Look, other teams are willing to give up two. first rounders and a wide receiver to. get this guy. >> No doubt. That's the thing. those guys. that 2022 draft that Joe Douglas and. Salad did got them, you know, obviously, you know, Garrett Wilson, who is the. offensive rookie of the year and is a. solid receiver, S Gardner, who just went. for two first round picks, Germaine. Johnson, who's an outstanding pass. rusher, and Bree Hall, you're looking at. those four names and you're like, gosh,

they all panned out. And guess what? Even with all those guys, they stink. Even with all those guys [laughter]. playing well, they stink. Quarterback. matters. And it's becoming more and more. evident every single day. And whether. it's the it's nature verse nurture and. like look Sam Darnold's awesome on. Seattle. He's he wasn't great with the. Jets and Zach Wilson might have a fine. NFL career. Didn't work with the Jets. You have to keep swinging the bat. You. have to keep trying. But all those other. players, those guys drafted pretty well. It doesn't matter if you don't have a.

quarterback. And that's where they're at. right now. >> They kicked Aaron Rogers out of the. building. He's having an okay year for. the Pittsburgh Steelers. They outpaid. everybody for Justin Field. Sam Darnold. was available from what we're. understanding. So, I'm not saying like, hey, let's make sure we give this. current regime uh a chance here, but. like they're the ones that brought in. Justin Fields and it's not working. right. >> Aaron Glenn's the one that kicked Aaron. out of the office immediately upon. walking in after he flew four and a half. hours over there. So, it's like they've. made a couple decisions here early, right? We've seen them already and now. they're halfway through their first year.

and saying, "Next year's our first. year." That's right. Next year's our. first year. Next year's our team. I. would like to wish Aaron Glenn, who I am. a fan of, good luck in this entire. venture. But if you're a Jets fan, I'm. sorry, man. I am. I'm sorry. Because one. of the most entertaining guys in the. entire NFL now gone. Go ahead, Ty. >> Yeah, sure. >> Yeah. Poor kid. Get crying. >> Yeah. Get another team. >> That's the first time he he's. experiencing what life is as a Jets fan. >> Oh, he's heading it too. I don't want to. be a Jets fan or his pointed it out. >> Don't worry. I'll buy you new I'll buy. you a new jersey.

>> That's it. He's wearing a Quinton. Williams jersey in the clip. It's like. you can't even make it up. >> Exactly. Speaking of Quinn and Williams. Shregs, uh I I guess maybe that wasn't a. shocker to some people. Uh but. >> you said that. Yeah. You said it wasn't. a shock. >> Yeah, exactly. But uh what was kind of. the idea around that whole thing? I saw. a lot of people, Dallas fans in. particular, kind of pissed off because. it was kind of like, hey, we we gave up. everything we got in the Micah Parsons. trade to get Quinnon Williams. Uh and. especially given what their record is. and all that kind of stuff. Uh how did.

this come to be? Does does this kind of. like are the Cowboys do they just flip. their defense? Are they all the way back. now all of a sudden after getting. Quinnon Williams and Logan Wilson? >> No, they're they're improved though. because of these guys. You look at the. the four names, Kenny Clark, these two. obviously Logan Wilson is a good. linebacker. As much as people have been. rolling their eyes because that was not. some slam dunk like you know headline. grabbing move and we thought we were. getting one. Quinn's legit and then you. oversh.

at least you can say they're gonna not. be run all over by Bam Knight and. Demarcado next time the Cardinals come. in on a Monday night. You know this this. fact of this is like they're 35 and one. and I don't know if this team is going. to the playoffs and I don't necessarily. think they are. They do have a rest of. the season to play out and in those. games they've got a prime time game. against the Raiders on Monday Night. Football. They got a Sunday night game. against the Lions. They got a. Thanksgiving day game against the. Chiefs. They've got a 4:00 window with. Brady and Birkhart doing the Eagles.

game. They've got a Christmas Day game. on Netflix that we're going to have to. do flips over where they play the. Commanders. So, they're going to be on. TV a bunch in your face. And I think. honestly the other day Jerry was like, "We have to stop the bleeding." He. already put it out there saying earlier. in the day he had a trade in his back. pocket and like at he was hot to make a. trade. I think Jerry was hot to make a. trade. And I will tell you, talking to. the people around the league, there. wasn't an offer as good as this, and. when it's out of division and out of.

conference, and it's a 28-year-old guy. that like we like, but I don't. necessarily think we're winning because. of, and his career record with the Jets. was 31 and 67. Like, I think it's okay. We can. >> Hey, I appreciate the angle that you're. spinning here. The. >> sauce Gardner won 18 games. It's like. Sauce Gardner won 18 game. [laughter]. That that that is uh that's a wildole. >> That's a wild Yeah, but that's what you. just said though. Like that is I. understand the narrative is we have them. on our team now. We we can't win. So we.

have them not on our team. We can't win. >> Not them. They were the reason they won. any of those games. That's the problem. And it's like. >> well that's why you were trying to get. young guys that are good is the entirety. of like what you're doing in the draft. And it's like I guess they already paid. these guys so they're not considered. young anymore, you know? I guess because. they're already taking up so much of the. salary cap. But just being able to. replace greatness. I mean, all right, good luck. Good luck. We are excited. about it. Now, on the flip side, if I. was building a team or in my first. couple years or first year with the. team, and I was offered five first round. picks over the next two years to build.

this team up in my uh kind of view and. vision, I would certainly say yes to. that as well. And now, granted, would I. say we 18 wins this corner? >> 18 times we got to say yes. Yeah. 18. times we got to say, "Yeah, it was fun.". This guy Yeah, I mean that's just uh but. I understand the narrative is. >> there's more of the collective. We've. had these great young players. We suck. >> So, let's get some new great young. players. Maybe we won't suck. >> Yeah, let's at least give it a go.

>> Got to get a quarterback. >> Okay. So, Jets fans should be excited. Jets fans pumped years from now. >> Like five, six years from now, you can. be super excited. >> No, the Jets are actually going all in. on the future. So, the future should be. bright. Now, the future's not right now. Okay, we got nine more weeks, right? And. you know, this thing is gonna happen. >> You know what I did see as well is they. traded, you know, kind of a bunch of. like stalwarts franchise players and. then hit them immediately after with. boom, we're raising ticket prices next. year. >> Yeah, they did. >> No, they didn't.

>> They wouldn't do that. >> Is that why J E [clears throat]. T S Jet Jet Jet? [singing]. >> J E T S J. >> Is that what Fireman Ed's pissed? Probably. >> Anybody Do we have a health and wellness. check? >> Is he pissed. >> on fireman Ed? >> Oh, he's got to be. >> He's got to be so upset, dude. >> I think he's pretty pumped to retire for. the fourth time. >> What? >> He might be on another golf trip.

>> Fireman Ed ran towards Fire's not away. from him. He's allowed to go golf. whenever the hell he did. >> And he left early to get there in time. >> What are you talking about? >> His golf trip. >> Well, it's the boys. You want him to to. show up the boys? >> That's what I'm saying. He said he left. I left the golf trip early. That's a big. deal. >> Yeah. >> Yes, it certainly is though. >> The end of it, too. >> Probably sweet golf trip. >> Oh my god. If. >> imagine how many times. >> every debox. Yeah. >> Every time. >> Yeah. Every before every shot he. >> We're at the halfway house. Do it again. Ed.

[laughter]. >> run it. >> Yeah. >> They walk into the halfway house. There's like a little snack in there. Two people accidentally in there at the. same time. You want to see it? Yeah, you. do. [laughter]. >> Hey, Ed, we love you, man. Sorry you've. been battling so far. That's a good bit. >> That is a good bit. We got a lot of good. stuff going [laughter] there. Uh, okay. Let's talk a little bit about yesterday. AQ Shipley has a question for you. >> Yeah, obviously we keep talking about. all of the trades that did get done. What was the closest deal yesterday that. didn't get done?

>> Oh, >> I was surprised AQ that that there. wasn't a fire sale in New Orleans. Now, I know they gave away Penning and they. also traded Rasheed Shahed, but to me, I. thought all those veterans, those guys, Deario Davis, Cam Jordan, Taesm Hill, Alvin Kamar, all those guys could be up. for sale because that team's going. nowhere either. And yet, they held on to. those guys even after a terrible loss to. the Rams. So, those guys will finish the. year. And if I was thinking as a Saints. fan, maybe like the philosophy the Jets. had where it's, hey, we're not going.

anywhere. We got a bunch of veterans. let's un unload them because there was. interest in all those guys. Um but they. didn't make those deals. The other name. was uh that was being tossed around a. lot was Bruce Hall and the Jets didn't. trade him. That was more of like a hey. that's our best offensive player this. year. We're actually you know in on Bree. Hall and if he goes somewhere else in. free agency we'll get a compensatory. pick that might be better than the value. of what we were getting offered for him. So, it's it it was I was looking at the. teams that were obviously sellers and uh. some guys weren't sold and it was just. like, well, the juice wasn't worth the.

squeeze to get rid of them for like a. fifth or sixth round draft pick. >> I like whenever, you know, is this good. business for both of us comes to play, you know, at the very final hour, you. know, whenever we're right up against. it. Are we going to do this? Are we not? And it's like, well, I don't think we're. getting good. You you don't and you kind. of back out of those deals. Always. chirping, always chatting. That's why. when these big ones happen, the amount. of courage it takes to get that fun. because you know, >> do it. Shfter was reporting yesterday. about how the deal's not done. The. deal's not done. Quinny Williams and. Dallas Cowboys, he goes, "We're close.". It's like that's sometimes the hardest,

you know, when you're in goal line. preush push days, when you're in goal. line, those are the hardest things to. get. Negotiations and contracts can be. that way as well. So to get to that. point and then actually make it happen. is a huge deal. So if your team's a. buyer at all like we are, so many people. probably said probably not, probably. not, probably not, probably not, probably not. So for your team to say. yes, let's go for it. That's why tread. deadline day is so beautiful. It's like, okay, now we know in the building. they're going. Now, now we know that. they view it the same way we do. You. know what I mean, Shreggs?

>> Yeah. And it's and it's become. different. It wasn't this way 5 10 years. ago. It was more incentive to just keep. your guys and just ride it out. But I. kind of loved yesterday because teams. were taking swings and other teams were. being honest with themselves and looking. in the mirror and saying, you know, the. Jets case like what are we? We're not. winning with this. So the the other part. of that like Dallas deal, there was. other teams that were calling about. Quinnon. But when you start saying like. the particulars of like, all right, we're going to get the better of your. two picks when it's the Dallas pick or.

the Green Bay pick because of Micah. Parsons and you're going to give us the. better of your two picks. That's the. nitty-gritty. That's the stuff that. usually holds deals up. But both sides. were motivated enough to get it done and. Jerry Bent on that one. And now the the. better pick between the Packers and the. Cowboys will be going to the Jets. >> Jerry Jones threw the snowball straight. up into the sky. There's Logan Wilson. I. told you I got a trade coming in my back. pocket. And then Quinnon Williams. >> Great afternoon. >> Bang. >> Dallas Cowboys. I always stir some [ __ ]. up. I told you literally yesterday, didn't I just say this? I will stir [ __ ].

up. And I certainly did. Everybody's. talking about soft gardener. Soft. gardener. That's cute. Dallas Cowboys. just loaded up on defensive line. Everybody said I'm big dumb [ __ ]. We'll see how it all works out for him. Now, with the things you were talking. about, the particulars, first rounder, second rounder, players being moved as. well in both cases. Connor has a. question for you. >> Yeah, Sh piggyback off of AQ a little. bit. Once those bigger trades, you know, went down, did trades like Jaylen Wadd. and Trey Hendrickson and Bradley Chub, did those just become too pricey, like. did they have a certain um, you know, pick, I know Wadd was allegedly fetching.

a one first round pick, but once Sask. goes for two in a player, did those. prices get bumped up and is that why. some things didn't happen? >> I think so. And I give credit to Champ. Kelly, who's the interimm GM down in D. in in Miami. Chris Greer gets fired. You're handed this plate. And it's. basically like, well, I have no. incentive to to not do anything. I'm an. interim GM. I want to make moves. I want. to show the owner. And the value just. wasn't there for them. Jaylen Wadd was. too good for what they were being. offered. And then in the case of Bradley. Chub, you'd think that would be a very.

movable piece. They probably just didn't. get what they thought was was worth a. player who could still be a good pass. rusher for the rest of the season. So. Jaylen Phillips goes third round pick. That sounds about right. um especially a guy in the final year of. his contract. And then the other two was. like, "No, we're not going to trade them. 20 cents on the dollar just to do it,". which I appreciate. >> Yeah, I do too. But some of these trades. that end up happening for really good. players are mind-blowing. Randy Moss. went for what? Fourth. >> Fourth, I believe. >> Fourth rounder. And Napoleon Harris, I. believe, was the player. >> Hey, Napoleon was a dog. They used to. talk about him back.

>> You fear Napoleon. This guy. >> a lot of spite. >> favored in New England. >> A lot of it. Oh, really? >> Oh, yeah. Everyone, honestly, it was the. first Napoleon they accepted in New. England. >> Yeah, it was like a full complex. It was. a full complex they put together for. him. All right, we appreciate the hell. out of you, Shregs. You're the man. >> Oh, I love it. You guys are the best. Thank you. >> You're the best, ladies and gentlemen. Peter Sh. >> Yeah, they didn't think they got enough. for Waddle, man. Wadd's a good player. >> Yeah, >> put the tape on. Also got a sick. celebration. You're going to sell. shirts. That's a whole another business.

that we don't even talk about. That got. to be at least worth a second there, don't you think? Maybe. Maybe third. How. about whenever sauce goes for two ones, all of a sudden everybody at the trade. deadline's like, "Oh, I didn't know. we're giving up that [ __ ]. >> I didn't know that was a thing.". >> I didn't know we were giving up ones at. the trade deadline. It It did kind of. come out of nowhere. >> We were sh We're like, "Oh [ __ ] we got. sauce.". >> Wait, Cam Little, >> two first round picks. >> Two first round. >> You guys were yelling in the back. screaming. >> Yeah, the Cam Little interview is. running. Okay. Shout out to Cam Little. >> His interview ran three times yesterday. First time ever that anybody's. conversation has run three times in the.

same show. Not in entirety. one time, but you know, it got cut off both times. We were trying to chitchat with the guy. who just broke the longest field goal in. NFL history record this weekend at 68. yards. That thing's running. All of a. sudden in the back, all you hear is, "Yo, yo." People are going to the. bathroom. People are doing the whole. thing. Caught it. Let's go. And then it. pops up on screen. >> Sauce coming. The Indianapolis Colts. Oh. my god. >> This real. >> AI. Got to be AI. Nope. We're back. It's. real. Okay, we're celebrating. Holy. hell, the Colts are all in. Colts ice is.

awesome. The big three, of course, we. knew that. They knew we didn't do it. Goes for two first round. Two two two. two first rounds. Hold the phone. I. didn't know we give up two first rounds. at trade deadline. And then BA's like, "Who cares, baby? [laughter]. Who cares?" You got Sauce Garner. That's. the real thought. Is your team good for. right now? That's what trade deadline is. for. Right now, this season. Now, when. people want to judge it, they're talking. about the future. What's the future look. like? What's the future look like? The. New York Jets get an A for that because. what the future's going to look like. with who they're going to draft. It's. like well all the Colts care about right.

now with that is this year. That that is. what that pick is for. Now granted we. got saw us for multiple years. We just. signed that deal which is great. But. this trade deadline move especially if. you're a buyer. It's like this piece. sends us this year to where we want to. go. You never know when your year is. going to be your year. This Colts teams. thought they've been good for the last. couple years. They're in the middle of. it like wait a minute. We've been. building for this moment. Why would we. not go for it? They go for it and we. make the biggest play trade deadline. It's a beautiful thing. >> Absolutely. This is definitely for this. year, but also for this window going.

forward, I guess, this Daniel Jones. window because this lets you know like, hey, we believe in the quarterback. We're probably going to lock him up long. term. He's going to be driving the ship. You got sauce now for m multiple years. You got Ward on the other side of him. for multiple years. You got Cam Bayham. for multiple years. Kenny Moore, he's. one of the highest paid Nickelbacks in. the league. So, you have one of the best. secondaries uh definitely on paper. And. that should help those guys up front, you know, be able to get home, too. We. don't necessarily have that elite closer. up front, but when you have multiple.

coverage guys on the back end, that. definitely helps the guys up front. >> I think what we're seeing from the big. three. >> Mhm. >> is if we win, that's how the business. grows. >> Mhm. >> You know, some people that get maybe. handed a team or kind of next generation. of team are worried about literally just. dollars, okay? Because this is the. family business just worried about. dollars in this entire thing. But we've. never really understood that because. like any business, if you make a good. business, that will make it more. profitable. Look at the New England. Patriots before Bill Bich out there.

Then you win for 20 years. Look at the. valuation of the New England Patriots. after you win. Like when you win, the. business goes up. So this is just like. with the Pittsburgh Pirates ownership. where we go like, hey, if you were to. actually put your money into the team, what might happen? Think about this. your bottom line might be more because. you're better and you're getting bigger. deals and you're on more TV, more. everything can happen. I appreciate that. the big three seemingly with this move. and with everything else that has. happened this season with the moves and. signings, they're like, "Yeah, we would.

like to win." I think Carly Ers in her. opening press conference said, "We want. to be the greatest. We don't want wins. will happen if we're the great. However, we can make this team the greatest is. what we want to do." And it's like. >> they're living up to that right now. Yeah. And uh that's a sick precedent. I. I don't think they're going to be crazy. like every single they're not going to. be like uh Carmine over there like, "Hey, we're known for doing this stuff.". But I think they're very much like, "Yeah, we want to have good. We want to. win. When we win, we live through the. Pton Manning era with the Indianapolis.

Colts. When we win, life is, you know, >> and they will be judged.". >> Super Bowl, everything. You're. everywhere. And they will be judged on. this particular move. >> It's a big swing. Whenever you whenever. you're sending that PJ out for for for. somebody that you sign, whether it be a. free agent, somebody you draft, whenever. you send that bird out, that's going to. be one of the signings, one of the moves. that you'll be judged for going forward. So, I love them taking this swing while. the offense is on kind of their. historical run right now. Obviously, you. hit a road bump against the Steelers. last week, but with Daniel Jones, with. Jonathan Taylor, the O line, and then. these receivers around uh Daniel Jones,

I feel like they're having career years, too, and it's almost like just. scratching the surface of when they're. going on that side of the ball. So, for. them to make the investment defensively, I mean, that's what all you can ask for. is a fan. >> Going to have to uh pay Danny Dimes and. Jonathan Taylor. Uh joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, is a man who's uh. no stranger to football greatness. He is. a pro football hall of famer. His name. is mentioned anytime you talk about the. greatest wide receivers in the history. of the NFL. A man who was unguardable uh. just anytime he was on a football field, including whenever he was at Georgia.

Tech. The only way that you'd be able to. stop him is if they stop throwing him. the ball, which they did in the Gator. Bowl second half against West Virginia. And we win that game. Ladies and. gentlemen, for our friends at Real. Truck, an aftermarket product and. accessory brand for truck, Jeep, and SUV. owners, they announcing their opening of. its flagship retail store in Rochester. Mills, Michigan. Okay. If you got a. truck, you check out Real Truck and you. make that truck the best truck possible. Ladies and gentlemen, Detroit Lions.

legend, superhuman Calvin Johnson. >> Yeah, Calvin, how you doing, dude? >> What up, guys? What up? What up? It's. good to see you, Pat. >> Hey, great to see you, too. Obviously, we're big fans of yours. We saw you Pro. Football Hall of Fame weekend. Kept it. moving. Uh, nice to see you get. celebrated every year amongst your. peers, as you should. Tell me about Real. Truck, cuz I know. Okay. I think you did. some well to save the world at one. point. Uh, I think you got into some. maybe some greenery business at one. point. now obviously teaming up with.

Real Truck here for the announcement of. their November 13th uh retail store. opening up there in Rochester Mills, Michigan. Like how are you so. the depth of businesses that you've been. a part of? I want to let you know almost. as historic as your playing career. How. did we get tied up with Real Truck and. what do we need to know about them? >> No. Awesome. Appreciate that. No. Um. with Real Truck, man, they just saw what. I was doing in the community, man. just. really trying to help these uh young. student athletes, you know, just trying. to help them in their, you know, path to.

uh, you know, through college and onto. their careers. We trying to give them a. boost whether it's financially uh uh. through mentorship or whatever way we. can. And you know, they they they kind. of um you know, they they had synergy. with uh with our mission and what we're. trying to accomplish through our. foundation. And you know, with what. they're offering the foundation, man, all the proceeds um that of the truck. that they're auctioning off will be. going to Calvin Johnson Jr. Foundation, obviously, to boost those student. athletes and families both in Atlanta. and Detroit. So, it it's pretty awesome.

what they what they're doing. Um they've. done a bunch of u these collaborations. So, kudos to them for putting their. hands and having an impact in the. communities that they're uh that they're. working in. But, it's dope to have this. close to home here in Rochester Hills, Michigan. So, I'm going take my Raptor. over there and get it all fitted up cuz. I seen all the all the accessories they. got going on. >> I can't wait to hear that thing power at. home. You know, obviously Real Truck's. got it cooking. And uh you can see the. uh brand new custom Ford F-150. It'll be. showcased at Real Truck, the store in.

Rochester Hills, Michigan. And then in. 2027, the vehicle will be auctioned off. with 100% of the proceeds going to. Calvin Johnson Jr. Foundation. That's a. beautiful thing. I like whenever the. community companies and great people. come together to make magic happen. Shout out to you, Calvin. Let's talk. about Magic. This Detroit Lions team, brother. Hey, listen. I know that you. could probably still play and maybe you. get that truck all suited and booty, you. start feeling like you're 28 again, but. this feels like a team you would want to. play for this Detroit Lions team. What. is your take on this particular squad? [clears throat].

>> Yeah, man. No shade to any of my. coaches. I played for Rod Marinelli, Jim. Schwarz, Jim Codwell, but uh Dan, man, that player coach, man, it's it's. nothing like having a player coach. I. was fortunate to have a player coach in. Sean Jefferson um throughout half of my. career in Detroit and I understand you. know the buyin that you get and that's. what those guys got up there. They got. buy in cuz half of that staff and not. most of that staff are former player. coaches but just the the energy and the. the environment um to compete and to. thrive and to become the best version of. yourself. Not just player but yourself.

Um that's what Dan is creating there. man. It's it's a great culture. >> Going to win a Super Bowl. >> What do you think? >> Are they going to win a Super Bowl? You. think they can? You think they can? Because let me tell you, Foxy over here, right? Foxy die hard. Foxy loves you. Foxy uh has been praying to the football. gods for another Calvin Johnson since. you were debuted as a Lion and forever. as a Lion, right, Foxy? >> 10,000% Calvin. Thank you for everything. you did in Detroit, brother. >> Yeah. But are we at the point this year, you know, are we at the point this year. where you can go on a run or do you.

think you're setting up for like next. year? For instance, both new. coordinators. Now, I don't know if. Kelvin Shepard's going to be there next. year. He's just defensive coordinator. His name is starting to get floated in a. couple different jobs because of how. awesome he is. You talk about former. player, we are teammates with him. He's. beloved. >> Might be LSU's head coach. >> Exactly. That that is what we're saying. like back. So. >> yeah, >> it might be [laughter] might be. >> Yeah. But I'm saying though, like with. the brand new coordinators, with. everything, do you think this team has. the same uh juice as last year where we. thought they were going to go win the. Super Bowl? You think same thing this. year if we just miss the injury bug as.

much as we had last year? >> I mean, we know we have the juice. there. like you know last game you know we was. a little bit of a struggle but we saw. there's a little stretch there um over. the last month where they got hot on. offense and they are really moving the. ball up and down the field um both. running the ball and passing the ball. Um if we cannot continue to do that you. know if we get stuck um in one facet. then yeah we're we're not going to you. know we're our days are numbered put it. like that. >> Yeah I Debbot has a question for you. Yeah, Calvin, I know you rooting for. your Lions, but what's it like still.

watching your old quarterback, Matt. Stafford, still spinning it, still. playing at a high level, MVP level? What. What have you seen from him? I guess. differently like his evolution from the. time that you played with him, >> man. What up, bro? Good to see you. Um, man, it just looks so easy. It looks so. easy for him right now. Um he looks, you. know, stressless, you know, that that. that's the side of Matthew that, you. know, I got to see latter part of my. career and he's just he's just taking it. to a whole another level. He's gaining, you know, different making different.

throws. Um not all fast balls. Um and. he's just seeing the field really good. I wish he could uh wish he would have. he's he's still not running the ball. like I want him to as a quarterback, but. [laughter] that's never been Matt's game. either. >> Yeah, but he used to take some massive. hits. Oh, yeah. I mean, the shots he. take, I mean, it was he's tough, dude. Still doing it. Everybody remembers his. miked up where it feels like his. shoulders out of place and he didn't. score. We gota go do another play. [laughter] Ah, and then somebody comes. over to you know and then he's still. >> Cleveland game I think.

>> Yeah, exactly. It is like what a dog. especially for how long he's been able. to do it. All right, last question here. for you. We talk topical NFL stuff. Go. ahead, con man. >> Yeah, Calvin S Gardner got traded. yesterday from the Jets to the Colts. What type of corner um for you gave you. the most trouble and what type of corner. is S Gardner and how much better do you. think the Colts defense will be because. of him? >> Definitely an improvement to that Colts. defense. U for me the corners that gave. me the most problem were the ones that. didn't necessarily necessarily press. I. like it when you're aggressive and. press, but the ones that more so play.

that catch technique where they were. like, you know, three yards off. They. didn't really go at you, let you more so. come into them and then they kind of. latch on. Um, and then with that, you. know, if you're a long u a tall long. armed corner, those are the ones that. gave me the most trouble because I mean, not at today's game, cuz today's game. you can't touch the receiver. But back. in the day or like 10 years ago when I. was playing, you know, they would latch. on that first 5 10 yards and it never. get called, >> you know. Yeah. They would always call. it really properly at the first five. yards and end it there. And I do love. hearing older players, especially ones.

that are like the greatest of all time. going would have been nice maybe. So, let me I'm taller than everybody. I'm. faster than everybody. I can jump higher. than everybody. And they're not allowed. to slow me down at all. That is the. rules precisely. Sweet. Boom. We are. doing this one right. You did that back. in the day as well, though. So, you need. to know that we all understand your. greatness. And anytime a good wide. receiver comes out, they always pop the. clip out and go, I don't know if they're. ever going to get the Calvin Johnson. punt bracket coverage, though. And. that's like kind of a staple now. You.

change the game, brother. We appreciate. the hell out of you. >> Appreciate you, bro. You changing the. game right now, man. I love the show. Y'all keep it up. >> All right, we need you soon. Uh, we need. you to come back whenever we have more. time. We love chatting with you, ladies. and gentlemen. That's Calvin Johnson. [applause]. >> Real Truck, Rochester Hills, Michigan. That guy. >> from Wells, I believe in Africa. Yeah, I. believe he was building to he has uh. greenery company obviously Hall of Fame. football career, the now truck. partnership. It's like this guy.

>> one of the most well-rounded business. [laughter] people of all time. I mean, unbelievable. And then what he did on. the field was. >> great family as well. Come from great. family. >> Georgia Tech they first half using him. >> Yeah. Can you imagine if he went to. Oklahoma and not Georgia Tech. in Oklahoma too. Thank god he wasn't. there. Be a friend. Tell a friend. something nice about might change your. life. We'll see you on the other side.

$4 million. in prizes and charity as a result of the. field goal kicking contest. And Pat, what do we got going today? >> Yeah, Ree, I'm happy I can't see that. graphic from where I'm at. Just hearing. about that is obviously something to. make my wife and daughter not be. thrilled. $4 million out the door. because these college kids have been. showing up in such a big way. Congratulations to Garrett Morris here. You were the ticket winner. Uh you are.

not going to be the one doing the. kicking. How come? >> I cannot kick. >> Okay, so you're at kicking. >> I'm ass kicking. I climb rocks. I don't. kick. >> What's your major? >> I'm an accountant. >> Okay, so we're going to be counting. numbers later. >> Absolutely. >> Hopefully it'll be some numbers off of. >> Jonah. >> Okay. Uh. [laughter]. [cheering]. >> this is great. >> All right, Jonah. Hey. Uh, so you were a kicker in high. school. Is that right? >> Yeah, I I kicked my senior year of high.

school. I was a all region kicker, baby. Jordan. [cheering]. >> Oh, really? >> We got a couple blockers. >> Oh, yeah. I think we need a couple. blockers. >> No, they do. No, no, no, no. Your senior. year, what were you? How many attempts. did you have? >> We had about five attempts. Um, made. three of them. >> You went three for five and made all. region. >> Good job. Oh yeah, reach it. >> Uh let's make this for $750,000.

>> $250,000. to charity. $1 million to the all region. kicker Jonah. Three back, two over. >> He's got a shot here. Time out. [laughter]. >> Time out, dude. We got a timeout. Time. out, dude. >> You know what I'm saying? >> Need for ice a little. >> Yeah, right. We got blockers. >> Yeah. Yeah, that's tough. >> We got We got some We got a million. dollar kick. Why don't you think about. it a little bit? Uh. >> here he goes.

[cheering]. >> No good. >> Jonah, we will still donate 250,000. >> Oh, he called a timeout before the kick. [cheering] He called a timeout. [laughter]. >> 250,000 is going to go to charity. You. two will get an opportunity to win. $125,000 each. 250 in total for you if. you're able to make this kick. Jonah. sound good for $500,000 out the door.

[screaming]. >> He curled that in. [cheering]. Oh, he Steve's waving it off. I think. that was good. I think that was good, dude. >> Can New York tell us if that was in or. not? Like this is the NFL? >> I think it was good. $500,000 after. >> the following program is a collection of. stooges talking about happenings in the.

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2025 hour two of the program begins. right now. it's the greatest sport [music] on earth. and we're lucky to cover it every single. day it's not just me here the toxic. tables here at Boston Connor and at Tai. Schmidt nine-year NFL vet host of. everything DB good D bad D and also the. NFL matchup show that you could see on. ESPN uh do uh. >> depending upon what carrier you have. >> Mhm. >> Let's make sure we figure that out. >> Mhm. Please.

>> please. >> We need it. bad. And I clarify. what I said yesterday has obviously made. it rounds where me saying, "Hey, stop. saying. >> go to the website.". >> Yeah, I need you to stop doing that to. me. The way I said it made it sound like uh. I was taking shots at the the people. that were saying it or tweeting it. Sure, because they agreed to do it. This. is mostly from whoever said, "Hey, you. know what? All our liked people, we need. to throw them right in the middle of.

this fire, too. You know, have them go. tell people to go." That is mostly my. So, if you like to correct it and run it. back, that is who I am. It's not. necessarily like, hey, Herb Street, I'm. I'm saying, hey, to because Herb Street. was probably informed by somebody like, hey, would you like to that person needs. to not do that, okay? Her Herby's got. enough on his plate already. We don't. need to be putting because it's at the. end of the day, you're going to get 20. people that go to that link. Okay, we. know this because of affiliate business. You know, the beginning of the internet. business days is links, okay? Send.

people to your link so companies know. how many people are using your thing. So, do you have an active audience? So. then we've done the whole send a website. thing. We've done the whole what happens. people very lazy. Okay, even on an app. people are lazy. They don't even want to. do it. And as soon as they see you doing. that, their immediate reaction is no, you figure it out, smart guy. And also. shill corporate sh you. Oh, you want me. to fix the problem? Okay. Yeah, I'm the. one. So I just think it's all bad, I. think, for the people that I am a big.

fan of. But on that note, none of us are. a fan of the situation. Everybody's. trying to get this thing over with. We. all do, I think, except for potentially. the people that are currently actually. sitting at a table that aren't reading. the petitions that are coming from a. website. No, those people are not doing. that. That that is not how that's going. So, we need them to put their source. down for the good of all. >> Yeah. Right now. >> Right now. >> Yeah. Kind of kind of needed it last. Friday, but need it right now. >> Ink to paper. >> Yeah, >> we need it. Actually, you know what? Get.

the deal done. Celebrate for a night. Okay. Don't tell us until tomorrow. >> Sure, >> but just we need it Saturday. We need. this by Saturday morning. Okay. Need. this by Saturday morning. >> Maybe maybe pull a Jerry Jones like. Friday night. You're going to you're. going to be happy tomorrow morning. >> Oh, wake. Hey, it's Christmas Eve, isn't. it? Yeah. Little smile on your face. Go. Why don't you leave some cookies out for. all. Santa Claus Jerry Jones? Yeah, maybe. there is a little bit. That's what we're. going to live in. We're going to live in. that world where that's going to happen.

Congrats to the people that are. negotiating this deal that are. definitely reading the website telling. them that they need to get a deal done. to try kind of drive them to get the uh. negotiation to the right place. >> Congrats to them getting that deal done. for all of us. Thank you. You guys are. heroes. >> Thank you. >> A lot of negative things said about all. of you guys, but you guys are now heroes. for getting it back in the middle of. football season. >> Need it. >> 12ear NFL veteran, Super Bowl champion. That's AQ Shipley. Uh we appreciate the. hell out of And joining us live from. Manatakin, Ohio, is a man who has a. statement to make about uh YouTube TV.

and ESPN's current disagreement. Ladies. and gentlemen, AJ Hawk. AJ, floor. >> Give him hell, Hawk. >> AJ, the website. Get to the website, AJ. >> Yeah, I do appreciate you letting me. start off with that. Yeah, I actually. went to the website four or five times. and signed up and, you know, I guess. typed up my complaints. I don't know why. you uh went out of frame. You must be. going and checking the website as well. to see the the massive amount of. traffic. >> No, the computer's right here. I I was. letting you kind of have the floor. What. I was saying is the floor is yours. basically is what I was saying there for. you to do that. But uh on that note, thank you for going to that website. because it does mean that you would like.

to be able to watch ball again. I'm the. same way. I didn't go to the website cuz. I thought to myself, is this a waste of. time? Maybe. Maybe it I but maybe it is. a. >> What is at the website? Has anyone truly. gone there and and checked out what you. do? >> Yeah. So, there's a little there's a. couple different options there. You want. to send a tweet? You want to send a. tweet? We got you right here. You want. to do this? You want to send an email? You can do this right here. you want to. watch, you can do this right here. It's. got options for it's more options. It's. more you actually get a link to get to. more links and it's like people love. that especially in 2025 now. Maybe in I.

don't know when the internet started. You know, people loved being able to. just kind of. >> Oh yeah, this is fun. >> When Al Gore started it, >> I do I do believe he is credited with. birthing uh the internet and uh I. thought so. >> What a wild turn the internet has taken. now that it kind of. >> Al Gors. >> I believe Al Gors was Beyonce. I thought. he'd clap. >> or Beyonce. One of the two. Yeah, >> Beyonce started here. >> Maybe together was Beyonce's internet. >> Well, I think that is a a section of the. internet. Like Beyonce certainly has a.

portion of the internet. >> Yeah, the Vehive. >> Yes, exactly. It is. Yeah. And you buzz. in and you buzz out of it. >> There's also NBA Twitter, which we know. >> Yep. >> Now, it did have a rebrand. NBA Twitter. always been the best part of uh Twitter, I would say. But. >> black black Twitter still still there. Whoa. [laughter]. I know what you're saying. >> No, me. No. No. That's not what I'm. saying. Boy, you get dropped into there.

though as a what? It is a great place to. be or worst place to be of all time. Just want depending upon how it's going. >> You just never want to be the main. character. >> Never. Now, it's going to But if you get. into the. >> What portion of Twitter are you. referring to now? >> Uh, it's Black Twitter. >> Okay. So, if you happen to get into that. particular portion of Twitter, boy, and. you are a what it is, enjoy the ride and. go ahead and just keep updating that. thing cuz you're about to hear [ __ ] that. you have never heard before. AJ, it is. great to have you back. Uh, we missed. you. Sauce Gardner is now a member of.

the Indianapolis Colts. Quinnon Williams. is now a member of the Dallas Cowboys. There was actually some massive moves. made yesterday. What is your takeaway. from the trade deadline as you kind of. gather it all in? >> Uh, definitely more uh superstars moving. around than I thought. I said it felt. like it happened. Uh, obviously late. I. mean, saw us going to India. I instantly. thought of you and just thought and I've. seen the clip of everything during the. pre-record. I've seen it all. It's it's. it's pretty awesome and it's it's. bizarre that it actually happened. honestly. Like the timing of it, everything about it is wild and sauce is. awesome. Like why not? If you're the.

Colts, I think it's I didn't Shreg say. he feels like it's a win-win like in. that whole situation even though people. can say whatever whoever won the trade. right now. >> Shrekes has to say that because he has. friends on both sides. Remember these. insiders have to play fence all the. time. Okay? Have to. It has to be some. sort of positive except for with the. Lions. I I don't know if Frags has any. ties to the Lions because remember. before the season he was like upside. friend of mine. Okay. Even though the. team looks bad and is going to. inevitably not play back. >> down I don't think Detroit Lions that.

was one of his misses that was he was. taking massive takes and that was he. literally laid out this is a massive. take a massive uh say but I think. Detroit Lions are going to have a down. year and I'm like wow Shrekes never. really does it. Shrekes is always at. least something positive from. everywhere. That's life of an in. >> That was my takeaway. Shrekes knows no. one at the line. So, hey, this is a team. I can bury and not make anyone mad. >> See, that's journalism. We're trying to. get to the bottom of these takes. AJ, uh, we've missed you, buddy. I don't. know if you've know this, but uh, last. night, huge night in the college. football world. the actual rankings in.

the actual bracket that is coming from. the actual group of people that are. going to be deciding who the college. football playoff inevitably is at the. end of the year whenever they start at. 12 and countdown to one rolled out their. first official rankings of the year. We. saw them put their hats on the hat tree. and now we see what they came up with in. that room. Let's go to hammer dad Todd. AP Tone. Tone, what did the uh college. football playoff committee tell us with. their first projected 12 team bracket? Yeah, I don't think there was a ton of.

surprises here. There was two things. that I took away from looking at this. and the first one being Oregon at nine. Um, when I projected it, I thought they. would be higher, but the committee. disagreed with me. They are the lowest. ranked one loss team from the Big 10 or. SEC. They are behind Bama, Georgia, Miss. and Texas Tech who's in the Big 12 as. far as one loss team goes. Teams go. So. they are like Oregon needs to be.

careful. Oregon still has Iowa this. weekend at Kinnick which is huge. USC. and Washington like all those teams are. ranked. All those teams are good. Like. if Oregon messes around and loses any of. those games. I like I they're definitely. going to drop them behind Texas or. Oklahoma, teams like that. So, like. Oregon, I wouldn't be happy if I were. them when this came out because one more. loss and they could definitely be out of. the playoff as a two loss team, which. would suck for them. And then the other. thing I was looking at, Notre Dame's at.

10 right now as a two loss team, but. going behind them, the two teams right. behind them, Texas and Oklahoma, Texas. has Georgia and&M left. Like, if they. beat Georgia and&M, guess what? Texas is. going to be ahead of Notre Dame. So, Notre Dame drops to 11. Oklahoma has. Bama and Missou left. and that Bama is. at Bama. Like if if Oklahoma to somehow. beat Bama on the road, I think they jump. Notre Dame, too. So, while Notre Dame's. in there right now, I don't know if. they're safe. Obviously, if they lose, they're out. But Oregon, as well as a.

one loss Oregon, if you drop to two. losses, I think you you might go behind. Texas and Oklahoma in that situation, too. So, those two teams is what I kind. of took away from last night's rankings. Okay, let's check out what Tone's. predicted CFP committee bracket looked. like verse what the CFP committee. bracket was. What did you get wrong? You. got uh Oregon ranked differently, but. basically have all the same teams. You. you basically are seeing the field how. the CFP committee seeing the field. Do. you feel that way? >> Yeah, as you said earlier, I saw all.

those old whites walk in there and put. their helmets up on that that hat rack. and you know, they went in there to do. their business and yeah, I had Oregon. higher. I thought they would be higher. I maybe five was a little too high, but. I didn't think they would be behind, you. know, Texas Tech. Like I thought for. sure they'd be ahead of Texas Tech just. because normally there's no respect for. the Big 12. Not saying there shouldn't. be. I'm just saying in the committee's. eyes. Um, but yeah, all the teams were. correct and just kind of Oregon was. really the only one that was out of. place. >> Okay. What a baby Tone. >> That's why you're best in the game. >> Thank you.

>> I see you're growing back your beard. I. thought maybe you were just sticking. with mustache for a while or is maybe. this the look? >> No, the the just the mustache was a. horrendous look. Um, that was a. miscalculation of epic proportions on my. part. Um, but no, I don't mind that I. don't mind the mustache with like the. it's starting to come in. This is a. week's worth of growth. Maybe like. another week with the mustache. I'm. starting We're starting to find it a bit. here. >> Yeah. [laughter]. >> Holiday season, Tom. Holiday season. Congrats to you. >> Thank you. >> Steelers get a huge win over the Colts.

Uh, Tone batting a thousand in college. football and uh he's starting to find it. with his face. Joining us now is a guy. who's starting to find in the booth, isn't he? >> Oh, yeah. >> Mhm. >> Listen, I was listening for a long time, this guy talk about a game in which his. brother dominated and my team was the. best team in the league and was losing. pretty bad. >> And I'd say he did a great job doing it. Ladies and gentlemen, future First. Ballad Hall of Famer, a member of the. Bull Ring of Honor, ladies and. gentlemen, JJ Watt. >> Y.

owner of Burnley as well and Espanol. The soccer team's absolutely crushing. it. How come the Texans aren't calling. it the Bull Ring of Honor? How How come? I saw there's an announcement. There's. another member going in, a fourth member. going in, I believe, this weekend. It. just said Ring of Honor. I thought for. sure this must have been a Mandela. effect. I thought it was called the Bull. Ring of Honor. >> It's not. >> No, it's just a Ring of Honor. >> Come on. >> That's a miss. >> Yeah. >> I mean, you've you have certainly taken. that bull by the horns and and let it. around the track. So, it's it's got a.

second nickname for sure. No, I thought. that was the. >> official title. >> Yeah, I thought that's what it was. And. then I saw the logo and the photo and. it's like, oh, it's not that. >> But we did welcome Miss Janice McNair. Sweet, sweet soul. One of the best women. ever. So, she is now up there and. rightfully so. She's the best. >> So, there's four of you now in the Bull. Ring of Honor. Are you guys going to. play Uker? Is the crew going to get. together and maybe play a little cards. against each other? >> Uh, I don't know. I don't know. I'm. there this weekend. I'm very excited.

They got a Houston game this weekend. So, I'm really really looking forward to. that. And uh. >> really really hoping we can get some. offensive production going. >> That would be that would be a plus. >> Yeah, that would be a plus for an. offense to maybe not turn the ball over. and do what they've been doing all. season, you know, especially in a game. where maybe it's a homecoming for one. particular squad. And let's go back to. the game that you called this past. weekend as opposed to the one that. you're going to talk about this upcoming. weekend, which we will certainly dive. into. CJ Stra, that's a big hit and. obviously did not look good at all, but.

we'll dive into that later. Let's talk. about Colts Steelers. You're obviously. calling it. Your brother has huge play. after huge play. The defense very. dominant. Obviously, a special teams. turnover as well. This Colts offense. didn't look the same as it always has. Look, Jonathan Taylor was never really. able to get going. It's because this. Steelers defense was so damn stingy. Your takeaway from the game is this is. the Steelers team that everybody kind of. thought they could be coming into the. season. and has the defense kind of. flipped the switch on or is it just. against the Colts when the 2005 team's. in the building and that's the only time.

they're going to be good all season? What are your thoughts as you watch the. game from inside? >> Um, I got a lot of thoughts. First of. all, I'm going to go ahead and say that. my prediction from last week of they. just couldn't win in those ugly. throwback uniforms. Maybe that was true. They put their regulars back on and they. play good again. Um the 2005 team being. in attendance certainly you don't want. to embarrass yourselves in front of that. group. You got Dick Leau and all just. the legends there. Um so the defense. wanted to come out and play good I'm. sure. But it was uh it was just all week.

long they had talked about simplifying. their defense. You know in our meetings. and everything they said they wanted to. simplify it and just play fast. And I do. think that the Colts may have abandoned. the run a little bit early partially. because the Steelers were playing the. run very well, but the Colts offense. we've seen all year is efficient. It is. on schedule. They stay ahead of the. sticks. They get tons of yardage on. first down, creating short seconds, short third downs, and they just weren't.

really in that. The first drive of the. game, they go out there and score a. touchdown. But then the game got a. little weird. They had that muff punt. Uh they had obviously the interceptions, the force fumble by TJ. That was really. kind of in the stadium, the turning. point. You could feel the momentum. change. Um but I mean six takeaways in a. game is a ton. That Steelers defense. really did have a good day. And we. people are always looking for a reason. to doubt the Colts. You know this, you're part of it. We were talking to. Zire Franklin about it and he was like, "Yeah, they always move the goalpost. It.

was, you know, we hadn't beaten. anybody." Then it was we hadn't beaten. anybody outside. Then it wasn't on grass. and so this is kind of one of those. first ones where was it because it was. outside on grass? Who knows? But looking. for them to get back on track in Berlin. for. >> it wasn't because of the grass. Okay. The boys are just fine going into a. mutter if they have to. Okay. They just. had an off game and the ball was going. obviously a different direction than it. had all season. We like that that. happened as a fan. Yeah. Let's get it. out of the way. Okay. Let's get out of.

the way. We're still seven and two. Still lead and everything. But six. turnovers you assume and you only lose. by seven. Hey, almost had it at the end. Appreciate you shouting out the uh old. onside kick. I appreciate the love. >> Last onside kick. Didn't realize that. it's been that long since an onside. kick. I mean, it that speaks to how on. We got to fix this onside kick thing, man. We got to There's got to be at. least some sort of chance here. >> So, since he just got one against the. Bears, but I think that was even uh that. was because it was a shorter kick and. the Bears end up hitting it with the. foot, but I think there's some. protections on the guy. But yeah, you. guys showing this one was really cool.

Really uh sweet cuz I completely forget. about that one to be honest. Yeah, just. bend it over a guy's back. Don't worry. about it. Bend it like Beckham. [laughter] I don't even to be honest, when you showed it, I had not thought of. that particular kick uh ever really. since retirement cuz there's so many. more. You know, the one against Houston. >> I thought for sure it was going to be. ours. I thought for sure it was ours. >> Yeah, we had a good time. Yeah. Okay. So, we need to stop showing this. I. mean, that's a nasty ball that I mean. [laughter] that is an absolutely. >> that you thought that was getting. recovered. You cannot tell me that you.

thought that was getting recovered. No, but it did dance exactly how I wanted it. to. I I mean, it did exactly what I. wanted it to do. I I mean, I bent that. son of a [ __ ] I mean, >> you gave a chance. You gave your You. gave the, you know, your cover team a. chance to get it. >> And that thing was dancing. That thing's. dancing like a top. That guy's scared to. death. This thing's coming at me. sideways. You know, I don't know what to. do. And he tries to fall cuz he thinks. it's going to take a quick thing because. it's obong. Yeah, right, brother. Benny. like Beckham just got kned, I think, yesterday. Around it. Boom. Let me hit a. go. Hey, brother. Run a go route. I'm. gonna send this thing to you on the.

other side. Yeah, I I need to like that. one more. Completely out of memory. Had. no idea that that even happened until. you guys showed it. So, you're kind of. breaking news to me about that. I'm. like, man, I [ __ ] forgot about it. >> That is a very nerve-wracking position. to be in as that hands guy who's. responsible to [ __ ] try to read the. bounce. That is very, very. nerve-wracking. >> See, a lot of mine were surprised. though. And the onside kick now has kind. of gone away from that completely. It's. just kind of to your point, Jage, it has. kind of just become over. Yeah, this. one. Ah, come on. >> Yeah, this one was cool. Yeah, this one.

was cool. J, >> you don't need to go to the well this. many times. >> Yeah, listen. I didn't know Foxy was. going to be doing this. I didn't know we. had all of them back there, but I do. appreciate the fact that I'm going down. Glory Day. Were you guys even on the field? That's. what people were wondering, you know. And the reason why it was wide open is. because we had hit had a surprise onside. game to the right earlier in the year. and then we hit one to the left earlier. in the year. So, Houston, Texas like, "Well, if we go on the right and the. left, this guy can't do [ __ ] They. completely forgot about the middle of.

the field." Now, I'm not saying that's a. bad idea cuz uh no kicker really um. thinks that they're safe when they do. that kick. So, they it you know, as I'm. kicking that, I think, oh, I'm going to. get my spine fractured here, you know, cuz I'm going to go down on this and. this is going to become a boom boom. boom. So, as I'm doing that, I'm. literally laying [laughter] You see me. like, if you saw my face, it's like a. ready for full. Oh, no. I I might not be. able to walk out of here. I mean, who. knows? Nobody touches me. I mean, they. weren't even close. I mean, what a.

perfect situation. It was the greatest. I mean, I got up. I'm like, >> no contact. This is the greatest of all. On that note, thank you for the love. Tell the CBS people that I very much. appreciate them showing me do something. good as opposed to something bad, which. is normally the case in this entire. situation. I would like to let you guys. know you called a good game, too. I. thought you called a very, very good. game. All right, let's talk about some. other [ __ ] going on around the league. Go ahead, AJ. >> JJ, I know it's most important on on top. of your list what you want to talk. about. Is it true that you may clone. yourself and possibly your brothers uh.

with this whole situation with Tom Brady. cloning his uh his dog, I believe. >> Come on. It's a great question, AJ. >> Come on. >> Took you a pivot away from the Steelers. >> Yeah, I thought we were going to do. football soon, but hey, Tom Brady's. greatest football player of all time. So, might be back. >> Certainly topical. >> We're we're uh there's a lot of dog talk. in the analyst world. Um, I'm just going. to keep my dogs on my Instagram story. and that's that's going to be about the. end of it. I don't they're not. >> Hold on. No. Did we know that I could.

clone Valerie, my dog, who's a pitbull. sharpi dog who I absolutely love? Now, I. don't know if they're just going to be. able to pick up her mentality and. mindset from being a street dog and. shelter dog and everything like that. I. don't know if you're going to be able to. clone that. But if if Valerie can just. be two years old again, just sleeping at. the at the floor events like, "Oh, I got. the same dog." Oh, she's got a different. attitude now. It's like, okay, good. I. mean, Valerie's going through a. different stage and then I just got. Valerie for the next 50 years. Is that. what's happening? That's Tom Brady told. me. >> Is Chuck the big one? Is Chuck the the.

hefty fell? >> They won't let you clone him. [laughter]. >> You could you could clone him. Can we clone him? >> Legs have so much on him. >> I mean, give him a break. Okay. The. Ottoman. Can we Can we Can we clone the. Ottoman and just shrink it? >> Okay. The Ottoman is. >> stronger legs. And he has an incredible. stature, I will tell you. Yeah, he. stands there strong and fat, but he's. very tough to move and he's stubborn. Actually, if I could clone Chuck and get. a better mindset, which is possible, I.

guess maybe I do that. >> Another shot from the beginning. >> Yeah. So, and maybe we did get him on. Doggy Zmp from day one because we know. what's in his blood. >> Yeah, exactly. >> We know he can become super fat. So, >> the cloning arm, it's starting back at. the start, right? It's like it's just. like a baby all over again. Yeah, here's. Chuck. >> I had the same question. [laughter] I. don't know if that's God, man. That's. unfair. >> Well, and I'm the only one that didn't. have a leash on, you know, cuz he's he's. too fat for leash at the game. >> So, uh, he ran though. Look at him. His.

little legs. >> Damn near won. >> If it was skiing, he would have won. [laughter]. >> That man is not awesome. >> Hey, we're not thinking about coining. Chuck anyways. Chuck's got a long life. ahead. Valerie though, certainly on her. final. >> long life. >> days here. And uh. >> AJ, I feel like you I feel like you've. looked into this before. I feel like. you've looked into this before. >> To clone animals or to clone humans? What are you talking about? >> All of it. I think you've looked into. all of it. >> No, I saw the movie Multiplicity. It.

doesn't always work out. [laughter]. There's always going to be some defects. when you do that. >> So, I don't think that's a smart thing. Well, the dogs, if you could bring back. Carl, my old German Shepherd, I would do. it if he if he had Carl's mindset. That's what I need. That mindset. I. don't think they can clone the mindset, JJ. I don't I don't think they can do. that. I don't know. Tom would up to you. Parenting, nature versus nurture. Maybe. you maybe it's you that put the mindset. in him. >> I don't want to give me that much credit. for Valerie, for sure. I I don't know. about Carl. Uh maybe my wife kind of. >> Carl was Carl. >> Yeah, he was. Hey, rest in peace to.

Carl. Carl was a hell of a dog. Tom. Brady doing this though does add to the. thing about like, man, these super duper. duper rich people just do sweet stuff. all the time. Found out he can clone his. dog. Yeah. Give me her. And uh you. asked, "Is it a baby dog? Is it?". >> Well, yeah. I think JJ asked it as well. I don't know if it's a dumb question. Do. they when you clone it, is it just do. you pick the. >> Thank you for asking cuz I'm with you, dude. >> Does it come back? Yeah. Does it come. back as you know, start from scratch or. we starting from like what do we start. from scratch? I mean, start from petri. dish. >> I just want to be I think it's I think.

it's [ __ ] weird. >> and I I thought I was in the majority, [laughter] but apparently I'm not after. the show. I'm not a big pet guy, so. maybe that's what it is. But it was more. people on the Oh, maybe. >> I'm with you. No, but what was what was. the consensus though? It was the same. thing. It was, hey, if I can clone Murf. and he is the exact same dog as he is. right now, I'll take him. If I get a. knockoff version and he's not acting. like him, I'll kick that dog in the. stomach as hard as I can cuz that's not. the dog I want. I want my dog.

>> Don't kick your dog in your stomach. >> Well, but but. Well, that's what I'm saying. This thing. This thing's a monster. He's created by. science. He's not a dog. He's not my. dog. Put him down. [laughter]. >> Listen, Tom Brady. Enjoy your dog, dude. Okay. I don't think any of us are going. to clone our dog's butt. It's. >> 50K, too. You got. >> You just calling it the same name. Like, do you just go like just pretend? >> Definitely. It's like the uh UG. situation. This is uh Valerie 2. [laughter]. This is Valerie 3. You know, just like.

the um the uh Buffalo the um Ralphie. >> Ralphie. Ralphie. >> I They got that figured out. Have you. seen the newest one? >> He's got spunk. >> Lot of spunk. Yeah. >> Have you heard the why the new Ralphie. was introduced? Jage. >> Uh, no. But I do remember our Buffalo. Bison talk. We did have that. >> Okay. So, what happened was Ralphie five. I think is which one it was. Uh, middle. career prime. Okay. They thought they. had at least three, four more years of. uh Ralphie kind of giving it a go out.

there and Ralphie just said, "Nope, I'm. not doing it anymore." They brought. brought Andrew Luck. He's brought some hard times right there. for the Colts. Why'd you do that, J? I'm. talking about Ralphie Six coming in and. saving the day. That's what Danny Dimes. is. That's what Danny Dimes. >> Maybe Danny Dimes is Ralphie saying. >> Danny Dimes is Ralphie Six. That is that. is 100% true. >> I don't know. Things aren't going very. well with Colorado. So, >> no, but Ralphy's killing it. Have you. seen this uh bison run? It runs. >> It does. It does. You're exactly right.

But like Colorado and Wisconsin might be. a pick them right now. >> Okay. So, let's talk about Wisconsin. Uh, you own Burnley and Espanol. Why. don't you own the Wisconsin football. team? I, you know, I see Willie Compton. giving speeches and donating his time. and everything over there in Nebraska. You're both You're both in the middle of. America. You're potentially competing. for the same type of players. Feels like. you got to step up and maybe sell one of. those soccer teams so you can invest. directly into Luke Fickle's pockets in. that team. You have you thought about. that? >> We uh we we we need to uh play better.

Yes, we do. >> significantly. Why don't you go give a. speech? >> I did. Didn't work. >> Oh no. [laughter]. >> I am so sorry. Let's move along. Let's. move along. Let's uh let's definitely. move along. Debut has a question for. you. >> I know it's a lot of travel right now. You sound a little backed up. I mean, I. know you kind of take I thought I take. you as a homeopathic guy, not the, you. know, big farm guy. So, get your sleep, get your rest, hydrate. But, uh, back to. >> Also, there's some drugs you can take.

>> No, no, no. He he take this raw dog. Let. me hear both sides. Debunk. What should. I do? And Pat, what. >> uh sleep, hydrate, and uh eat right. You. already exercise, so that's all you. need. So AJ agrees. >> And for me, you just call somebody. that's in the super duper world and say, "Hey, these are my feelings right now.". And they'll say, "You got it. We're. sending two IVs to you with the nurse in. about 14 minutes." And then you'll say, "We're going to give you this, and then. you're going to have that thing out of. you in about 72 hours." I would never do. that cuz I don't like getting. pricricked, but I do believe that is. what you super duper owners of soccer.

teams can do in this entire thing. We're. pulling for you and you only got to beat. it one time, remember, throughout the. season and then you're on to the other. side. Go ahead, >> D boy. >> But back to the NFL. Uh big news. yesterday with all the trades. You know, on the other side of it, Cowboys, Jets, Colts, Seahawks, who actually came out. to be my winner in my opinion with the. trade deadline. Who's your winner as we. sit here about 24 hours later? >> I'm with you. I like I mean the Seahawks. are a wagon, dude. Like the the I think. the West Coast kind of loses. I think I. think there's true football fans and. deep football fans obviously know it,

but they're putting something together. out there and then you go ahead and you. add Shahed to it. It's that's Sam. Darnold's playing unbelievable football. That whole West Coast right now with the. Rams and everybody like there is some. very good ball going on out there. I. mean, the Colts make a massive swing but. also pay a massive price for it. So, you. you come in and we were talking about it. during the game like were they going to. look at a Trey Hendrickson edge rusher. type? Are they going to look on the back. end? you get sauce out there and you get. Mooney back, all of a sudden like where. are you throwing the ball on that.

defense? >> Um, so it's the the Colts clearly also. putting Danny Dimes in a very nice spot. when it comes to negotiations in the. offseason if he decides to take that. stance because you're basically all in. at the moment and saying that this is. going to be your guy. >> Yeah. and we have to figure out where. that money's coming from because because. I think Jonathan Taylor, if we know. anything about uh how his business goes, he's going to be want to be paid as. well. So, we got to pay Danny Dimes. We. got to pay Jonathan Taylor. We've paid a.

lot of people on this team and they're. going all in and they showcas it even. more uh yesterday and we're all. incredibly pumped about. Let's talk. about trade deadline a little bit for. you. Go ahead, Con man. >> Yeah, J. Uh something just to consider. with Brady as well. You ever want to win. a divorce, bring back your kid's dog. growing up? That might help. Um, when. you're looking at the trade, >> it's not a bad play. Exactly. Oh, you. want to go to your mom's house? Well, guess who's here? The dog that you grew. up with that was dead. Ta. >> It's back. [laughter]. Um, but JJ, with the trade deadline,

have you [applause] ever uh kind of gone. through that process where your agent. was letting you know like, hey, there's. a chance you might get um dealt here. today. Uh, or were you always just kind. of, hey, it doesn't even matter. I don't. even think about that um up until the. day unless your agent reaches out to. you. Um, the only time it ever happened was. my last year in Houston where it was at. least like somewhat where I was like, ah, should I be listening here? Should I. be paying attention? Because we were. obviously going through some stuff there. and there was some organizational stuff. There was there was just a whole lot.

going on and I didn't even know at that. point. Um, so I it's it's really. interesting because. your your agent and everybody can tell. you like, "No, don't worry. You're not. going anywhere. Nothing's going on." But. you still see all the stuff on the. internet and you also realize that 99%. of it is all [ __ ] Um but. >> wow, >> I wouldn't I won't lie and say you don't. think about it and you start to look and. you're like, "All right, so if this if. they did do that, where how is this. going to work? Where am I going to go?". Like it's it's a really interesting. thing between that and then free agency.

And it's I hadn't been through that at. any point in my career. And it's uh it. it it it's wild to put yourself in. situations and know like I could be. living in a completely different place. with a completely different life. >> And then he moved to Arizona, you know, and become a mega golfer. You see, he. was out there on he's got those hockey. stick golf clubs. Became a valuable. member of the community over there. Him. and AQ used to actually sweep streets at. night cleaning. >> That's right. Pick up garbage. >> Pick up garbage and then make sure that. >> Congrats on the I haven't talked to you.

since. Congrats on the skeleton coming. back. That's fantastic. >> Big day. Big. It was a big day. It was a. big day in the Shipley household. >> Thanks for calling attention to that, Jage. I I think uh you mentioning it. might have been uh the thing that made. those frat boys say, "Oh, JJ Wall wants. us." Now, that only happened because the. Houston Texans said, "J, get the hell. out of our building, please." You know, and that was whenever nuke was. happening. That's a tough realization. for some people. You know, we talked. about Trent Richardson whenever he came. out and said whenever he was traded away. from Cleveland to Indianapolis, it was.

the moment where he was like, "Oh, this. isn't this is business." He he thought. it was kind of like a shattering moment. to hear that a team doesn't want you. anymore. I think players experience that. at the end of their careers as well. Like sometimes guys who've been the. greatest for a long time are finally. told by a team for the first time like, "Hey, we don't want you." And there's. like a jaded feel. You know, it doesn't. feel like any of the guys nowadays feel. like that. Like Sauce came out and was. like, "Hey, it's just business. You got. to do what you got to do." I wonder if. that's because the NIO era where these. guys have been around money for so long. It's like, hey, business is everything. almost. You know what I mean, J?

>> Yeah, I think the business side of. things has certainly become much more. understood by everybody involved. I also. think we've talked about it before like. the the old school mentality of like. this is my team. This is like I live and. die and bleed for this team. It's a lot. different with even fans like with. fantasy football and with the ability to. watch all the games. You see people from. a certain city who in the past it's I. only support this team. I don't support. anybody else. Now we're in an era where.

you're supporting all different people. Sometimes it's just players and you're. because they're on your fantasy team or. just because you like them or maybe they. got traded away. So it's the whole. jersey swap thing. It's a little bit of. everything. Like it's it's just not. quite as like tribal as it used to be. Aaron Aaron Rogers jersey. Hawkamley. >> Yeah, big time. >> Hawkamy. Everybody's going up right. >> Who got it? Did Did somebody get it? >> I'm not sure. I'm not I am not sure. Somebody did though. And the thing that. I like is obviously the Colts number one. team in the NFL still. And they're.

humble enough to understand, you know, what a legend's out there. >> Did I see is Sauce getting number one. from DS? >> Dons is uh going Dons to Business. alongside his brother. his podcast. actually Downs to Business podcast and. he and Caleb will both be wearing the. number two you know Caleb currently at. Ohio State maybe the best football. player in college football as a whole. and uh Josh superstar for us obviously. Danny Dimes and he have done some. magical things together he moves to. number two cuz they're dons to business.

and then so. >> I didn't even know you could do that in. the middle of the season. >> me neither especially with like the. jersey thing you know cuz anytime guys. want to change numbers they're always. like well you got to pay back the amount. of money that jerseys have already been. made That's always something. >> You'd assume sauce probably footed that. bill for him. >> Yeah, I'd assume after getting paid. like, hey, this is kind of how this. whole thing goes. Don's too business. though, being their podcast that has. just launched and them both wearing a. number two and him coming out here. saying too slippery, too sweet, you. know, too everything. It's too neat. Like that is a uh I think that is a very. good move. I I like what they're doing. And also the culture in the locker room.

is great. You see that immediately from. before him even stepping foot in there. Yeah, you're cool, dude. Let's keep it. moving. Let's roll. It's no worries. And. everybody coming in. Louis Anarumo, did. you see his quote, J see? >> No, I did not. >> Well, we reached out to a building and. we said, "What's. >> I don't have uh I I don't have the. stuff. I can't watch the uh ESPN shows. I don't I don't have I have something. I. don't know what I have.". >> Tell them where I didn't I didn't go to. the website that you told me to go to. >> I never said go to the J. Don't you put. that on me, J.

>> I didn't. You You told me that I had to. go to some website. I saw you do a PSA. and I didn't go to it. >> Okay. Once again, not the boys's fault. that are doing it. That should have. never been an idea. Hey, why don't you. Hey, >> the suit said it was your idea. I heard. that it was you who said, "Guys, we. should crowdsource this amongst all of. our talent.". >> Mhm. >> This is how we should do it. I know the. social media. >> Hey, everybody's really mad at us. Can. you go tell them?

>> Go sign up. >> I mean, other guy bummed out. We were so. we were so bummed when Otter Guy was. forced to do it. >> But when Otter Guy said it, >> I did it. >> I went and did it. >> Go do this now. >> It's basically what he said. And when he. said that, I was almost like, "Oh [ __ ]. Okay, Otter Guys talking. I got to go do. it.". >> That one got traction. That one had like. 2 million views on it. >> We'll be talking to Otter Guy here in. about [laughter] 30 minutes or so. And. once again, it's not like I don't we. don't like whoever's idea that was was. just coming from a place of just not. understanding the reality of everything.

Okay. It's like that. What? >> Thought we were going to just rally. We. were all going to be like, "Yeah, let me. do it. Where's the petition? Let me sign. up. I want to help corporate America.". >> That's exactly [laughter]. exactly. Yes. And also, hey, they like. you, right? Well, let's change that. Go. ahead and, [laughter] you know, like. what are we what are we even doing? Hey, it's all right. just know that all these. people that people think are like these. uh maybe a lot of things been saying. about corporate show and stuff like. that, these people all love sport, want.

sports, you know what I mean? So, it's. like that's why I get so like, man, why. are we doing this? Like. >> Herby's already got enough on his plate, right? Herby's already got enough people. for whatever reason because he's been. calling games for 30 years and has the. voice that he has in this entire thing. Yeah. Let's just tell them also tell. them tell them [snorts] you go to the. thing it's like, God, who are you doing? >> Your ex account is is benefiting. fantastically though. Well, I think that. many would say there was a benefit for. maybe all parties involved there, but uh. on that note, yeah, it was an honor to. be able to stream that and shout out to.

X to be like, yeah, absolutely. We were. thankful for that. And who knows what. the future looks like there, you know, in that entire. >> Are we on X right now streaming? >> Um I don't believe we are streaming live. on X. Maybe. >> Yeah, we are. >> Yeah, we are streaming live on X. Yes, we have. >> Very cool. >> No idea. I I don't even know if I can. watch this show in my own house right. now. I have no idea. >> The thing about X is. >> sign competition, man. phone, laptop, they they don't have the TV app yet. No. >> You know, and that's kind of the like. YouTube has TV app everywhere. So, everybody can pull YouTube up and put it. up there. But if X wants to go in the.

content world, which allegedly they do, right? They really want to go. It's like. I think there's some things they can. build up to be able to become a real. thing. They're going to have to get. there though. But other than that, it. was like them being so nimble and. welcoming on Saturday in like a 2530. minute period. That all came together in. like 2530 minutes because I think the. YouTube TV I thought the YouTube TV deal. was going to get done before Saturday. I. think we all kind of thought it was. going to get done. >> Yep. I I did think that. >> it's like, hey, college football. We're. in the middle of college football right. now. Ratings up and to the right. Like.

this is certainly for all parties here. This is really good news. And then. Monday night football comes we still. have. But on Saturday morning whenever. it's like no, it's not happening. It's. like there has to be something here, you. know? And then uh kind of make some. plays. it reached a lot of people kind. of trying to track how do you compare. that to it's like you don't these are. two different world you can't compare it. to a TV number or a YouTube TV number. what an X number is it's a different. place but it was an attempt to be like. hey we do we this is. >> we understand what's going on and we. would like to put out their so I think. that's a good thing that ESPN did.

everybody's just kind of attacking them. it's like it's a negotiation happening. you know there's a lot of. >> there's a lot up here. >> but what we're saying is there's [ __ ]. ball. >> yeah there's We need to see ball. >> football. We We need it. And I'm not. entering my information on another. freaking website. And I'm not getting a. confirmation code sent to my email, clicking it, and coming back and putting. it in and then I'm not doing it. I'm not. doing it. I did it once. I have some. sort of subscription. I have no clue.

what it is cuz I can only watch freaking. half the content apparently or it's. replayed content. It's [ __ ] Figure. it out. >> This is a miracle. >> This is JJ Watt talking here. This ain't. some rock for brains defensive tackle. from the NFL. No, >> no, >> this is a guy that is your average. American JJ Watt saying, "I already. signed up to watch this. Why do I got to. sign up again?" And then with the. ability for your phone to be able to. take a picture, scan, QR code, then I. got to type in another password, another. code. It's like we're all kind of done.

>> That thing when that thing pops up, it. >> get hot. >> This guy's breaking TVs. >> Hates and then you and then you do it. and you scan it and you're like, "All. right, I'm in." And then they're like, "No, you don't have that one." So, too. bad. [laughter]. I mean, I'm trying to watch my guys. Like, I played for the Cardinals. I. wanted to watch the game on Monday. night. >> On that note, on that note, Cardinals. have the biggest win they've had in a. long time. Nobody saw it. Uh, AQ, uh, do. you have a question for Jade? >> I do. Let's talk about Walter Nolan and. Kus Campbell, the youngest defensive.

lineman and the oldest defensive. lineman. Kus gets two sacks. Walter. Nolan makes his debut. A sack, two TFLs, played great. What did you see from him? >> I love it, man. I mean, it's it the. Cardinals, we talked about this earlier. in the year, like they lost those crazy. crazy close games in quick succession. and their season would be looking. completely different. And it's I mean, as a guy who still has a bunch of. friends on the team and in the building, like I'm sitting there like, damn, it. would be so much fun to watch these guys.

having success. Then Kas obviously. dominating at the age of whatever the. hell he is. He's just still so damn. good. Um, obviously interesting moves. there at the quarterback position and. everything that's going on and then. Marvin's dad comes out and rips the. offense. Then Marvin has a great game. and it's like, wow, that's we should. just maybe we should rip the offense. earlier if that's what it's going to. look like at this point. Um, but I don't. know. It's it's tough. I I know what. it's like down there in Arizona. I want. them to be good so badly and it would.

have been awesome if those one-sore. games had gone the other way and we were. sitting there looking at a different. story. Jacobe the quarterback obviously. incredible leader and uh ability to. navigate through the offense and they. have a lot of faith in him as well as. they should. Huge Monday Night Football. win. Marvin Harrison Jr. said he was. pumped up to be a focal point of the. offense and uh we assume that'll be the. same going forward. >> You tell me what Walter Nolan did in the. game. I I'm not joking when I tell you I. did not see the game. I I I'll just read. all that up. >> Yeah. So he had one sack, a batted pass,

two tackles for loss, and played against. two really good guards. He showed up. I. mean, he looks like he's going to be a. present. >> Nice. >> Look forward to seeing him on regular. television next week. >> Well, >> it'll be cleared up if you go to the. website. >> Speaking of that same subscription, I. got that same subscription because I. used to be able to watch things. Now you. can't watch anything. It's just replays. >> You have to upgrade. They got you for. >> They don't even let you upgrade. >> It's not money. I got like I got the. money. I just don't want to sign up. I. don't want to enter my information.

again. So, do you have to do it? Sometimes you have to do it on the. device in which you uh registered. Have. you ever seen that one? >> Oh, yeah. >> Where you have to do this on the device. in which you register. I'm like, I don't. know what [ __ ] device that is. When. was it? >> The amount of people told me to put. bunny ears on. I like. >> Yeah. >> No offense. I don't know how to do that. I don't know how to get it to the right. television in the house. Like I'll be. honest with you, I got a couple of them. in the house and I don't know how to get. from my roof to the TV in my living.

room. It's a little waste. >> But but on that I don't know if the. bunny ears even work with modern telev. like if you have a smart TV. I'm not. 100%. >> People were screaming at me in the. comments. Get some bunny ears. Get some. bunny ears. What the What do you want me. to do with bunny ears? >> Again, it it would it would work for. Yeah. basic cable like ABC, NBC, CBS. But yeah, if you you ain't getting ESPN. with. >> You know what? Take a key, put it on a. stick,

hold the smart TV, go to the highest. hill, and just get a lightning rod. That. That should be able to to run. >> You got to put a disclaimer on that, dude. You got You got to put some kind. of. >> Oh, sorry. That won't work. Maybe I JJ, I don't know if that'll work. >> Some kid's going to go out there at the. top of a hill and just get smoked by a. light. >> Don't do it, kids. Don't do it. Williams. AQ helped me out on how to get it on. ESPN cuz you explained it to me like. when you upgraded your browsers to. premium. [snorts and laughter] Wasn't it. the same idea, right? >> Well, see that changed cuz they've. changed the state laws everywhere. So,

that's [laughter] what. >> put your ID in a AQ. Put it in. >> All right. All right. AJ has the last. question for you. Jage. >> Jage. Obviously, off on that note, the. Cowboys brought in Logan Wilson, Quinn, and Williams. I like especially Quinton. Williams. What does he bring to a team. when you have a big dude like that that. is that dynamic in the middle? Like he. can help a lot. I think I don't think. people understand what kind of impact a. big big dude like that can have on a. defense. >> Yeah, sounds like they could have used a. Monday night from what everybody's.

saying. I don't know. [laughter] Um but. uh yeah, I mean Quinton Williams is a. guy like I love Quinnon Williams game. I. mean it's like he can play the run, he. can play the pass. Um, I mean, you look. at the Jets and you're like, "All right, so you trade these two stellar young. pieces that you have in hopes of. drafting more stellar young pieces for. like I I just I'm not 100% sure. Yes, it's a huge hall and yes, they got a. bunch of great stuff, but Quinnon's. great. Uh, do I know if he's going to.

fix that Dallas defense? No, I don't. know that. But he's certainly going to. make it significantly better. The guy's. a damn good football player. and you. have somebody that can plug up the run. like that in the middle and rush the. passer, it makes your entire defense. better. So good for them. Now, if you. compare I know there's been that. sideby-side done with the Micah Parsons. trade and everything that's been done. with the picks and everything with it. I'm I mean Michael Parsons is still. Micah Parsons. >> Yes, he certainly is. And Money Time. Micah is going to show up in a big way. for the Green Bay Packers, we think late.

in the year, which will obviously pay. off the entire trade and then some. Here's some Hembo stats about maybe. Quinnon helping [snorts] Jerry Jones on. trade Michael Parsons. We need to be. able to stop a run. Okay, he's here, there, there. We tied. Most run stop. wings as a DT tackle this season. Quinnon Williams 61 of them. There you. go, Jage. That's all you need to see. He. He's dropp most run stops by DTackle, Quinnon Williams. Period. That's all you. need to know. So. >> most run stop wins, not most run. That's. Those aren't tackles. What exactly are.

those? Well, he's eating up, you know, >> like, you know, ball. >> Benny, you're g. >> those run stop wins. I mean, wouldn't. wouldn't it have to be a win for you to. stop the run? How do you how do you have. a run stop loss? >> Uh, here's the explanation, please. A. defender can earn a win by doing any of. the following. Beating his blocker so. he's in better position to stop the run. Disrup. >> Oh, dude. Dude, dude. [laughter] Yeah. Swimming out of the egg. >> What the hell is this? >> Can you let him face? There's a.

semicolon. There's a semicolon. Disrupting the pocket or running lane by. pushing his blocker backward. Okay. Containing the runner such that he must. adjust his running lane. Okay. Or record. >> or recording a tackle within three yards. of the line of scrimmage. That's a run. stop win. And guess who has the most of. them? >> Dallas Cowboys Quinton Williams. >> Wow. James, >> these people that just make up new. things like this is. >> you like like I've seen like like.

there's like uh you know. >> you should see the EPA on these run. Yeah, please. >> Yeah. >> Seth Walder says that uh. >> do we know who that guy is? >> Is that a real guy? >> He's a graph man. That's the only thing. we know. The guy just makes graphs. >> No. >> Lot of them. >> Is that what he does? cuz he gave the. Colts a D and a Jets an A. >> If it's not coming from Bill Barnwwell, then you don't need to worry about what. it says. >> Thank you, Ty. >> Yeah, exactly. >> Gump's a big Bill Barnwwell guy.

>> I know his ball. I know his ball. >> I did not expect Gump from the back. saying, "Whoa, whoa, whoa. Bill Barnwell. will tell us the truth in this entire. thing." Um, Jage, how's Burnley? How's. Espanol? >> We're doing good. Uh, Espanol suffered a. loss midweek. We're. doing good. We're in sixth right now. at West Ham coming up this weekend in. Espanol. We got Villa Royale. V V V V V. V V V V V V V V V V V V V V V V Royale. V Rail Royale. Good school. See. >> that. So, it'll be good. But Burnley. West Ham will be a great one. And.

Espanol is another shot. Life is good. >> Yeah, it is good. Wisconsin's going. >> out of the relegation. Sold. Don't we. don't need to go there. Uh Burnley. Burnley's out of the relegation zone. Espanol's in six. That's good. We don't. >> Burnley's out of relegation. We're going. to stay up with the big Okay, Burnley. Let's go. >> Schedule to start the season. You guys. been playing well. >> Gumpy, what are your thoughts on Espanol. maybe going on a run after taking on. Villa Royale this weekend? >> They should. Villa Royale is playing. midweek, so you could get them a little. bit tired rotating some changes. Espanol. bounces back this weekend. Got to beat.

West Ham if you're Burnley. West Ham. struggling. >> Is Burnley still parking it or not. parking it? I forget what their problem. was. They would have the lead and then. they wouldn't park it and then the other. team would just blow right through them. And. >> I tell you what, I'm not [ __ ] you. This Burnley team's playing some good. footy. >> Really? They are. They are much better. than when they were up in the Prem the. last time around. >> Okay, how about Espanol? What do we. think of Espanol? Obviously, they were. like third in all of the Spanish Super. Yeah, there it is. La Liga. Are they. still up there? What style of play do. they have? And are they exciting?

>> They're very impressive to watch. They're top six. Hopefully maybe uh. Champions League or Europa League for. JJ's boys. >> Champions League. >> [ __ ]. >> Yeah, we got we got the boys rolling. over there in Spain, man. We got Pereia. It's We are We're living good. We're. living good in Barcelona right now. Have. you you've never been a part of the. Champions League. Obviously that has to. be massive for ownership if you get in. the Champions League, I would assume. >> Yeah, I mean obviously that is that is. the ultimate goal to be playing European. football um and everything that comes. with it. So.

>> he just saw dollar signs. Look at that. face. >> Wow. You got to be real careful because. that's when people get in trouble. You. make it and then you're like, "Oh my. gosh, you got all this cash. Throw it. back in." And then like it's you got to. be the business side of this has been. really really fun and a lot. >> bank account like no you don't put it. you do it smart so that you can sustain. yourself. You've seen we've seen teams. go and play in Champions League ball and. get relegated like you you got to be. really smart. >> a lot more games during the week your. team can get thinned out get banged up.

like you got to build depth in your. squad to play in those competitions. >> Yeah. You got to make sure you're not. just pocketing and looking at the bottom. line. change. Okay. >> Yeah, trust me. You don't There ain't no. pocketing anything going on over here. It's expensive as [ __ ] to run these. teams. >> You're the best. You're the absolute. greatest. Hope you have success in that. as you have in everything else in your. life. You're the man, ladies and. gentlemen. And you're this weekend, Houston. You're in Houston. Houston. >> Yeah. We got Houston versus the Jaguars. who are hot on the Colts tail. Five and.

three. Colts. >> seven and two. >> Seven and two. But if Berlin slips, if. Jags, I mean, who knows? Who knows. what's happening in this AFC style. They. got real interesting after that. Pittsburgh game. >> Well, and Cam Little is hitting 68 yard. field goals. And how about that? >> They're trading for wide receivers that. everybody wants. I mean, Jacksonville is. a whole different team than they were. And Houston appeared as if they were. going to be on a different trajectory. there for a couple weeks. CJ Strad gets. hurt. Kind of change that conversation, I guess. Huh. That's kind of Everybody's. out on the Texans all of a sudden.

>> I mean, it's it's tough, man. The Texans. defense right now is literally playing. like a historic defense in the NFL. Number one in total yards, number one in. total points. Like they're doing. everything possible. It's just they're. not. They've had 10 attempts to score. from inside the 2 yardd line this year. and they've scored on zero of them. >> 10 times inside the 2- yard line. Scored. zero. >> That's heartbreaking. >> You have to be able to put the ball in. the end zone, man. >> That's heartbreaking. Um yeah, but. that's that's what's going on there. Um. the defense is playing phenomenal. So,

I'm really looking forward to seeing. that. And if you wouldn't mind letting. the Jaguars fans know because they saw. the announcer pairing come out and they. were not happy that I was calling the. Texans game and they think it's going to. be a one-sided fest. So, if you wouldn't. mind calming them down cuz they're my. mentions already. >> I told them I I said here earlier. listening to you call the massive TJ. Watt success and Steelers game against. Colts. I I didn't think you were There. was one time you said we very. ecstatically and I was like, "Okay, I'm. going to red zone. Scott Hansen's. getting my ears uh going forward." That. was at the very end. That That was at.

the very end cuz then you said it. >> Well, I said we about us. When you. kicked the onside against us, I said we. and Ian had to remind me that I have to. tell people that I played for the. Texans. He was like, "When you say we, you mean I said the Texans?". >> Oh, yeah. Cuz you went to Arizona. We. talked about that. But on that note, I. think you do a very good job at calling. it. You also you got good moxy in there, brother. It is entertaining listening to. you uh kind of go about doing your. thing. And the energy alongside Mr. Eagle there is fantastic as well. I. think you're crushing it. We're proud of. you.

>> I appreciate it. I appreciate you guys. very much. I learn a lot from y'all. So, I uh I try and take some of your guys'. fun and energy and banter with me as. well. >> Yeah, I see Ash Jade is still going. It's a good one. You should continue to. do that, especially because we can learn. more about one of the greatest of all. time. And all I need you to do is go to. keep my networks.com and maybe you can. continue to watch. You're the man. >> Post it from the sauna next time. Do it. from the sauna. >> 194 in there, bro. >> Yeah. Love it. Love it. >> That's really hot. >> I do. I got the red light in the sauna. and cold every day. I love it. That that. sauna is no joke. >> I don't red light. I got the uh the.

rocks. The rocks where I'm tossing. >> No, I I No, I don't do the red light. I. don't do infrared. I do real sauna with. you. I'm with you. I don't I don't I'm. not an infrared guy. >> They said my inside's getting better. Oh, you do red light after the sauna. >> AQ face thing. Yeah. >> Yeah. >> You still doing that? Looks like it. >> Yeah, I'm doing it. I got I got the. tower now. I got the tower. Oh, wow. >> Wow. Just walk full body. Stand there. naked. 10 minutes each side. Oh, >> hold on. [laughter] So, so what's. happening? >> Visual.

>> You put your arms out like that like. you're Jesus. >> Like a spray tan and you stand there for. 10 minutes. >> Oh yeah. [laughter]. >> And then you turn your. >> shoulders going to be so tired. >> And it's. >> You don't stand Why do you stand there. with your arms out? You spread your. [laughter] feet. Oh god. >> They get that. >> You never know. You never know what. you're going to need. Honestly, >> this is what you're saving your network. for, people. Make sure you get that on. your network. Sign the petition. We're. talking about health and wellness here. And honestly, [laughter] you take that. You're the man, ladies and gentlemen. >> JJ Watt,

>> that was an aggressive move by you. I. will say on television. >> It was good, though. >> Well, [laughter] it's authentic. Maybe. save someone's life. >> Yeah, you're a method actor, man. He. just went right back into that infrared. full body scanner and said, "What do I. normally do?" Well, I do this and then I. do this and then I normally do this for. a little bit. Kind of get a little. insides. Kind of get it going. All. right. Uh Frankie Louvu's suspension was. lifted. Uh, and now he's just getting. $100,000 fine. My source. >> says from the league aren't happy.

>> Really? >> Yeah. That the suspension has been. lifted. They think it is a very. dangerous play. They are taking it very. seriously. The NFL heard what BA said. yesterday about how it's not good. It's. even more dangerous than the horseer. And if we listen to what Jim Harbaugh. said about it whenever the rule was kind. of being initiated and I think now we. all kind of see what they are referring. to whenever this tackle happens. So, I. think the league is very much like, "Hey, we need to get this style of. tackle out of the game." And obviously, it was put up for review. Former player, uh, >> Derek Brooks,

>> Derek Brooks overturned a suspension and. gave a $100,000 fine, which is a lot of. money. Obviously, that is still a lot of. money in the fine. Oh, yeah. >> But, yeah, the NFL, I guess, is not. necessarily thrilled that that was uh. lifted from a one-ame suspension cuz. they would like this completely out of. the game. So, they think precedent has. to be set. I assume Derrick Brooks said. $100,000 is a lot of money. Frankie Lu. will change the way he tackles. So, it's. an interesting dynamic here on what. they're trying to make the game and what. they're trying to not make the game. >> Well, then they have to call it. Like, if you're not going to throw the flag, none of these are flags. Like, he. doesn't get called one time for it. And.

I I mean, believe me, I don't want to. see more flags. I don't want the refs. more involved in it. But like, how are. you going to find a guy or not find, but. how are you going to suspend a guy when. none of it gets called in-game? Like, doesn't that kind of have to change the. in-game refereeing that. >> AJ Hawk, your thoughts on it all? Obviously, we've been [clears throat]. That's so nasty right there. We've We've. all been a part we have as a show been a. part of this becoming a rule. This would. have been the first ever suspension for. it. Your thoughts? >> Yeah, I don't I think sometimes it's not. necessary to do this. I obviously you.

got to change the way you tackle. It. looks so dangerous, but some of them, especially like this one, I don't think. Yeah, I could have seen this one called. That one looks so nasty because you. could have gone through him and try to. go through the quarterback instead of. pulling him back on top of you. Yeah, I. don't I don't think he has any ill like. intent, but it does. These ones I think. sometimes you can definitely avoid. these. >> Yeah. And I think it's his style of. tackling which we went back to like. James Harrison. Like James Harrison. whenever they were changing what the. rules were. He got like $750,000 in. fines back whenever $750,000 was. >> and still is a massive number. But I'm.

saying like back in the day when that. was happening, it was huge. But they. were transforming how people had to. tackle. And James Harrison since he's a. little kid playing youth football only. tackled one way. And then he gets the. league. They're like, "We're not doing. that anymore." and he's like, "Well, what am I supposed to do?" And now he is. teaching his son, "Hey, you're going to. do what that did because this is. football. Let's make sure we remember. that. But you can do it differently.". And what the NFL saw was although at the. beginning it was a huge wave of, "Oh no, we're not going to be able to do it." An. entire generation of football players.

changed the way they tackle, change the. way they do everything. And it's like. this is almost what they're trying to do. with the hip drop tackle, even though. there's not as many people that use the. hip drop tackle style maybe like Frankie. Luv. >> Yeah. And it's tough. And I understand. why the league would be upset because. this is a very dangerous play. But I do. love the move of just finding him 100k. and then letting him play because every. game, it's not like the NBA or the ML or. MLB. Every game matters so much. So I do. like uh the decision by Derrick Brooks, but Louisville definitely has to change. the way he's tackling. And 100 100 grand.

that that'll that'll that'll get you. that'll get you learned real quick. >> Yeah. 100 grand is a lot of money. Yeah. I mean to anybody. Oh yeah. You know, anybody at this point 100 grand is still. a lot of money. But the NFL is very much. like this can't be because those are. nasty injuries too. They look nasty. Yeah. You know, >> those are worse than those feel worse. than a horse collar for sure to me. >> Yeah. NBA and BA mentioned that. He's. like it's like a horse collar, but it's. even worse cuz you got a full body on. the bottom of it. And those are also the. injuries that you know get picked up by. people that aren't football fans. >> Yeah, those career altering. >> Yeah, it's just all not good for the NFL.

and for the football. So, they're trying. to change that. Derrick Brooks like. 100,000 seems fair. They didn't even. throw a flag on it, but if he doesn't. stop, we'll obviously take the next. steps. We're trying to set a little. precedent here. We're here on ESPN. currently. We'll be off in about 11. seconds or so. You can join us. digitally. We're live on YouTube, ESPN. Plus, Disney Plus, and Tik Tok Live. This show's dumb. The fact that you. watch is even more crazy. Have a good. one. Goodbye. That might be the best. sendoff I've ever. >> Oh, yeah. >> Yeah. It might be might be the best one. ever. But I do appreciate the fact that.

I, you know, reach out to the NFL and. like, "Hey, heard you guys' little. punishment got lifted." you know, and. they're like, "Yeah, not happy. This is. mad." Yeah. Like legit like they. >> because they don't want it in the game, you know, like that is in for good. >> The only way you can work for Luvu. though is in a game because guess what? He's not tackling like that in practice, especially during the season. You're not. taking people to the ground like that. That's not happening. >> But with how natural he is at doing it, it's clear like this is how this guy. made it to the NFL. Like this is his. style of football. And it's like, buddy,

you're just Clay Matthews right now. You're James Harrison right now. You saw. it with um Kareem Jackson. So Kareem. Jackson has been suspended, but Kareem. Jackson, >> for lack of a better ter, he was like a. head hunter. He was like an old school. throwback. Like you come across the. middle, you you throw a high ball like. you're going to pay for it. And he. played that way until it until it was. over. He he was suspended what, like. three games, I think. Three or four. Yeah. Like which was which is crazy NFL. talk when you're talking about something. that's happening between the lines. So, I understand why the NFL wanted it out.

for player safety, but I do love that. this shows that there is a real process. that it's not just the NFL just dropping. a hammer and say, "Hey, this is how it's. going to be. Forget what anybody else. says." So, I do love that part of it. >> Yeah. The NFL not liking it is. >> Exactly. Yeah. I think that's For sure. For sure. >> We should be taking a victory lap. The. players, Absolutely. It's terrible that. it's happening, but the players should. be like, "Yeah, okay. >> We have some power. Like, we have some. like we have some recourse. If they want. to punish us, we have a little bit way. to fight.". >> Way to point that out, actually. Yeah. I. didn't even think about that. That's a.

great call. Like this is first time have. we ever heard the NFL be like, >> "We don't like it.". >> Yeah. [laughter]. I don't know. >> Yeah. Got to think about it because. usually you think like, "Okay, it's a. judge, jury, executioner." But to have. somebody at the table that can say, "Okay, nah, checks.". >> Louisville, like he's he's a guy, he. brings the energy every, you know, whatever whatever your thoughts is on. the commander defense. That's your. thoughts. But he's one of their guys. that they rally behind for sure. >> Let's talk about some other news around. the NFL. A little bit better news. Drake. May uh was doing a Q&A at Bryant.

University, which is in. >> Rhode Island. >> Rhode Island, which is obviously in New. England. Listen to this reaction for. Drake May. [cheering]. That's [ __ ] sick. Let's go to Connor.

I mean, the Drake's new king of uh New. England alongside Tatum, obviously, and. all the boys for the Celtics. Feels like. this is the next generation of sports. stars up there. And shout out to having. the perfect guy. Feels like he's humble. He can handle it. This isn't something. that is going to change the way he. operates. And all he's doing is getting. better and better. I love that you guys. are all the way on board from beginning. and bottom of the revolution region all. the way to the top. Is this kind of what. you were sensing from the beginning of. the Drake May era?

>> Yeah, it's incredible. I mean, definitely didn't think it happened this. quick, but that goes back to Mike Vrabel. and, you know, you mentioned Tatum, Joe. Moula, like the leaders of all the four. main, you know, franchises, Alex Cora, the Red Sox. I mean, Marco Sturm for the. Bruins. The Bruins are actually. outperforming how everyone thought they. were going to do. like the head coaches. at all these stops is kind of my whole. entire thing is why I think everyone's. very confident in the sustained success. because you know Drake May hopefully he. plays for 20 years and hopefully Mike. Vrabel's his head coach for all 20 of.

those years and then there's clips. coming out of Vrabel going up to Drake. May right before their last drive where. they kind of ice the game um before you. know taking the victory formation and. it's Vel going up to him saying like hey. all the [ __ ] that happened before this. drive doesn't matter like go get a First. down. Let's win the game. Let's get out. of here. And we're seven and two. So, people loving Drake May. Incredible. Him. being only 23 years old. Incredible. But. more more so Mike Vrael doing this uh on. Sunday.

We're going to need one drive. Everything that's happened doesn't. matter. We're going to need one drive to. win the game. I don't know what it's. going to be, but we're going to need one. more try. All right. One drop, man. One. drop. >> Okay. And Dig's getting in there. Some. good leadership. And Dig said, "I don't. know how Rael got me to buy in, but I'm. all the way in." But buying in obviously. a big deal. Leadership a big deal, but. Drake may be the right guy for it all. Seems like a perfect fit. And you saw it. from whenever you golf one round with. him after Clyde Christensen, who's.

former Indianapolis Colts coach. Right. Right. Right. >> He's been around a long time. Payton, Andrew, Tom, you name it. He was at. North Carolina. It's his alma mater. I. believe he was going back there because. family to live closer after a life of. coaching the NFL. And he told us when. Drake May was coming out, this is the. guy. He's Payton, right? He [laughter]. He But he's also very athletic. I mean, he led us in rushing, right? I I mean, you're talking about everything that's. right about a quarterback. This guy, he's youngest brother, got older. brothers, very competitive. He's not the. only successful guy. He's been there.

He's been popular. He's been big man on. campus for like the last three years. here in North Carolina. There's nothing. that's going to rattle him or change. him. That's what Clyde Christensen was. saying. Then you went in golf with him. and you came back an hour later, sat. down on our set and was like, "Drake. May's the number one [laughter] guy." It. does feel like he's the perfect guy for. all of this. >> Yeah. Cuz it's one thing to be the big. man on campus and I think it it's. another thing to be kind of the little. brother and kind of look up to kind of. who people you see as your heroes, whether it be your dad or your big. brothers or your uncles, your sisters, your mom, just bunch of athletes, and.

you kind of become that little brother. And then you get thrust into this this. limelight. And like all these. quarterbacks, like all the great ones. that we either played with or cheered. for, they're all very different. They're. all themselves. They're all unique. They're obviously all talented. But him. being himself. And then that little clip. from Vrabel, like it seems like a small. thing. That's a big thing cuz a lot of. times in these high pressure situations, especially young players, you it can be. kind of like too much. And a lot of. times it's the coaches on the sideline. that make it worse. You know, they're. panicking or they're trying to get. So. just to have a head coach come over.

there and say, "Hey, I trust you. Settle. down. Whatever happened happened. We. just need one drive." And then I've seen. clips of even Diggs being miked up going. up to the coach been like, "Hey, anything you want me to echo and get it. back and around the team." So when you. have vets that are buying in, you know, Vrabel's doing things right, but we talk. about with the Jets, none of it matters. if you don't figure out at the. quarterback position. It looks like he's. figured it out. And whatever who. whatever role you play on this New. England Patriots team, you will be a. king in the New England area. Like if. you are a Patriot, it didn't matter. Like I'm sure it was like this in Green.

Bay or in Pittsburgh, you can be the. 52nd man on the roster. You're going to. be going and getting a few grand for the. rest of your life, signing autographs. whenever you want. So I love what he's. doing and obviously, you know, they they. they're used to championships up there. and they look like they have the right. pieces in place to go and get another. one. >> Yeah, you become a made man in. Pittsburgh as well. Uh that's why the. 2005 team going back to Pittsburgh this. weekend was such a big deal, I think, and an influence on the current team. But New England has had so much success. and just getting a chance to relive that. through Drake May has to be special.

What are they calling him? >> Uh I saw it on the internet. I really. wish I I kind of thought of it first, but a mobile Matt Stafford and it's. basically to a tea. I mean AQ brought up. one of his throws against the Saints. where he's stepping up off off the wrong. foot just a little flick touchdown and. I'll tell you what, it looked a lot. messed up. Drake May passes Patrick. Mahomes for longest streak of games at. 200 plus pass yards and 100 plus passer. rating by a player under the age of 24. He's under 24 still. Oh yeah. >> Uh eight of them straight in their only. rolling. AJ, what do you think about the.

culture that Vel was setting? Are the. Patriots for real? The Patriots are for. real. Drake May's number two in the MVP. odds right now. >> Still playing the Jets twice. >> Jeez. Yeah. I mean when you It shows it. shows how valuable it is when you figure. out that if you're you're drafting a. quarterback in the first round, it pays. to get it right. when you get it right. and then you pair that up with Mike. Vrabel and what he has done throughout. throughout that whole team. Yeah. Like. that's why the Patriots are rolling and. watching Drake walk in like that's. pretty awesome, man. Like that's such a. New England thing, too. Like those these. college kids chanting MVP for him. Like.

you said, he didn't expect it. Like it's. a good time to be a Patriot. I feel like. right now it probably will for you know. the next 10, 12, 15 years. It looks like. >> and that's why no matter what, no matter. how you feel about the crafts, like it. took balls to fire Gro Mayo after one. year. Like it really did because Rael. was out there and I and Drake May might. still be Drake May it whether you know. Mayo was there or not but if Mayo's. there McDaniels isn't there and. McDaniels is a huge reason of his. success and and not to mention like Doug. Marone who's the O line coach now huge.

reason for the offensive line success. like for the crafts truthfully hats off. cuz it was nothing without that. >> when he said McDaniels he gave a big. point you love what they're doing with. Draco. >> that's exactly where I was going to go. next scheme and fitter everything in. McDaniel Daniels is back to doing the. same stuff they did when Brady was. there. It's fullback. It's, hey, let's. start with the run game. Let's get the. play action going. Let's get him easy. throws early, get his confidence up, and. then let's take the shots. And he has. the ability to take the shots. They've. gotten better with the O line. You. mentioned Doug Marone. That's one of the.

biggest hirings all off seasonason. Former head coach, O line guru, right? Like he comes in there after having. Scarncia there for so many years as the. O line coach. Took a step backwards, get. Marone back in. Now they're playing at a. high level. Yeah, I love the thought of. McDaniels going back up there having. success and already tasting what a head. coaching was like and being like, nah, I. don't Yeah, I'm I'm good. We're just. kind of chilling here. Family likes it. here. I mean, we [ __ ] we've seen a. lot of places. Yeah, we turned the plane. around obviously going to Indie, but we. went out to Denver. We did some other. stuff and. >> we're good here, especially with how. good Drake May is going to be. I think. BA almost had that mindset with Andrew.

Luck. Now, BA hadn't been a head coach a. couple different times with it failing. whenever Andrew Luck became offense. coordinator, but BA was with Andrew's uh. rookie year. And I think if you ask BA, BA would have been good, which is all. right, we'll just do this. Now, I'm. getting offered some other stuff, so I'm. gonna need a little bit more. You can go. ahead and find that somewhere else. All. right, [ __ ] I'll go be a head coach, I. guess. Arizona Cardinals, and then I'll. be a head coach, Tampa Bay Buccaneers, and I'll win a Super Bowl. But some of. those coordinators, they do see. something and they see what their life. has been. It's like, this is a happy.

life for my family and I. Yeah, I'm. going to get paid a couple million bucks. here, and we're going to have success. We're going to be hunting for it. Maybe. they stick around up there. >> Especially playing with it for a. defensive hit or not an offensive like. it's it's it's your it's your show like. you run the show like we trust you with. the offense and obviously Josh McDaniels. he's a made man in New England. He's won. multiple Super Bowls you know coach Tom. Brady all the good things but like yeah. when you have that pairing obviously. that was the pairing with Bill and all. the different OC's that came through. I'm sure OC's probably like that uh with. that that relationship as well.

>> All right so those are some takeaways. from the week. Let's go to a couch. takeaways from week nine of the NFL. season. >> Here we go. >> Brissett's brilliance on big dimes. Obviously, you're the Arizona Cardinals. color commentator. Had a had a big one. on Monday night as those of us that. couldn't watch on YouTube TV listen to. your call and that's kind of how we. survive through it all. So, we. appreciate you doing that. But you're. saying on Big Dons, Brousette showcas. his brilliance. What do you mean by. that? >> Yeah, he's been great on third down. I. think a lot of times, I mentioned it. earlier, you just run a screen or hand.

it off on a draw. They they run pressure. right here. First third down of the. game. Watch the subtle move left. Put it. right on Marvin Harrison Jr. And by the. way, he was fantastic in this game. They. target him early and often. Next clip. right here. Again, bring the blitz. You. get the overload right. Check out this. blitz. Debbuts. >> They're going to drop out the left and. bring the DB. Get the overload to the. right. There comes the DB. Sit in the. pocket and deliver another one. >> Trusted it. >> Trusted it. That was third and 10. Huge. gain. 15 yd gain. This last one 18 yd. gain on third down again. Here it is.

Fiveman rush. That's another blitz. Sit. in the pocket, feel the pressure, deliver it on time, dimes. >> It feels like there's one guy he's. throwing that ball to a lot. Jacobe sees. uh we got a man out there. We got Marvin. Harrison Jr. >> Yeah, we should throw him the ball. Yeah, but he dropped the ball early. Yeah, but also he didn't do the combine. He didn't do the meetings and we still. draft him really hot cuz this guy is a. freak show. They're really finding him. out there. It feels like. >> Yeah, I love it. When you build that. continuity, you build that trust with. the young wide receiver and the. quarterback. The same thing with Trey. McBride. like when you build that with. him cuz you wanted more out of Marvin.

Harrison since coming into the league. You see these young wide receivers take. over early so get him going. His pops. came out and say hey I don't know what. the [ __ ] going on out there. So they. figured it out. I love to see what I see. some%. I mean there's been a lot of. conversation about what goes on over. there. Jacobe Brassette incredible. leader and I think everybody's feeling. it in the building is what Peter Shger. said. What's your next takeaway coming. out of week nine of the NFL season? A. >> Darnold dropping dime. Oh, >> he started he started this game 16 of. 16. He was unbelievable. Let's take a.

look at this first play right here. Hits. a Royo, the rookie tight end. Watch this. ball just over. Look at that scene. >> How good is that? And there's about 16. clips like that in this game. I only. chose three here. Let's look at this. next one. Sit back. Sit back. Watch this. little hitch. Drop it to JSN on this. island. Just drops it in a bucket. This. last one. >> two minute, too. Let's take a look at. Gray's Able to left guard first. Let's. take a look at this one. He recognizes. Oh, we got a dropper. Boom. Get him out. of the way. Step left. Hit the seven. route to the rookie Horton.

Unbelievable. >> Yeah. Sam Darn Special. What they're. doing on the road, too, is insane. >> Yeah. 11 Warriors. >> Yeah. On the road. And this is a long. ass trip. >> I mean, DC, Seattle, that's a long ass. trip. They look more prepared than. anybody else. McDonald's an incredible. leader. Darnold, perfect quarterback for. them. >> He's incredible. And they are the best. in the National Football League. Kubak. comes in as the offensive coordinator. They are leading the league. in play. action past. It's incredible what. they've been doing. >> Good for Sam Darnold, by the way. We've. talked about it a lot of times. Good for. Sam Darnold. We thought he was going to. Seattle to disappear. >> Yeah, >> we thought there was a chance that was.

going to happen. They had completely. different mindset. They're taking over. over there in the NFC West. And then. obviously your big takeaway number one, they curtain call. >> Curtain call. >> Yeah, Steel. >> Yeah, let's take a look. >> They played like Steel Curtain, didn't. they? >> Yeah. Two batted balls right in a row. 36 years old. Cam Hayward, look at this. Stops a touchdown. Batted pass. That's. the first guy. Now, let's get to the. next one. Here we go. Mr. TJ Watt. little. Did you see that? Let's Can we. run that back real quick? Watch him fake. the long arm, >> then go to the dip and rip. Goes right. around. Sack, fumble, and recover.

>> They baited butter right there. >> Unbelievable. Now, let's go to the other side. >> No, I'm just saying. Why are they doing. it against us? >> Sorry. Here it comes again. Other side. Highmith. This looks familiar, right? Dip and rip. Go around. Sack. >> So, so honestly, I was watching them get. beat like turn styles against this team. And, you know, you just showcased a. couple of them here. our offensive line. has been good. Is this the depth issue. with the quarterback? Is this just a. pure pressure? Like what is it? Why do. you think this happened on this. particular game versus maybe every other. game this season? >> So, I think their tackles were a little.

soft and they didn't do as much play. action with the chipping and all that. stuff, which I'm really confused about. because they got some of the best edge. rushers in the game. The other thing. inside, Quinton Nelson always struggles. against the Steelers for whatever. reason. If you look over the years, he's. always struggled against Cam Hayward and. Fletcher Cox. Both what? Big powerful. dudes in the middle. So, I think he puts. a little bit too much onus on trying to. sit and then get swimmed and then there. you go. You get the bat a ball, you get. the sack, you get whatever it is. >> Yeah, Cam Hayward's a beast. Been around. a long time. Monster. >> Yeah, he he's one of the pillars of the. Pittsburgh Steelers. That's why they had.

to get a deal done with him uh before. the season started, but their Dline. played like, you know, I would assume. Steelers fans thought with the amount of. money that they've given to them exactly. how they would have hoped they would. play all season. Let's head to Hammer. Don Don, what do you think about the. steel curtain call, AP Tone? >> Yeah, it's awesome. Uh, and AQ. highlighted the guys on the outside in. Highmith and Watt. But like he talked. about Cam who's 97 95 Keanu Benton and. 99 Derek Harmon, our first round pick. Like they were awesome as well. So the. three in the middle stopped the run and. then the edges were able to pin their.

ears back and get to Danny Dime. So like. if we can do that Super Bowl. I think. there's a sack on there of 95. I think. this is the clip right here actually. against Gonzalz. Look at that move. Little Reggie White inside hump move. Hey, I mean that looks like uh teach. tape there on how to use your hands, especially in the middle of a line. Uh. Jaylen Ramsey playing safety and Tomlin. committing to that or Jaylen committing. to safety going forward because of. injuries. What does that do for the. Steelers defense? >> I mean, I like Jaylen Ramsey. I love him. as a as a defensive player period. He.

can play the slot, he can play outside, he can play safety at this stage in his. career, I'm sure he would probably want. to pick one and just because he's such a. smart player. So, when you can see the. game and prepare and game plan and do. all that [ __ ] watch cutups, whatever. you're doing from one position that. you're going to be playing majority, that that can make you much more uh. impactful. But you got to stay healthy. and you got to have guys that are. talented enough to hold up on the edge. >> AJ, this Steelers defense always been. good. You know, that's why the steel. curtain is a real thing. Pittsburgh. defense like hey defense.

>> Yeah, >> Pittsburgh. It's just kind of what you. think about honestly. Bill Carr. obviously his team's great defense. Talk. about that. You go all the way through. this Tomlin era, it's all like always. have good defense. They spend a lot of. money. Pittsburgh's expecting good. defense. They spend a lot of money on. good defense. So when they don't have. great defense at the beginning of the. season, there is calls for fire alarms. to be pulled. They show up like this. Do. you think this is what they're going to. look like the rest of the way? AJ Hawk. >> Yeah, I think sometime, you know, like. what six turnovers, coaches always say, turnovers come in bunches. So start. getting them and then bam, they they.

will continue to show up. I think as a. defense you can kind of like build. momentum and have games like this that. are pivotal games that where you look. back on after the season and you think. like okay we finally started to put it. together and that was one game where we. figured out where like it clicked in a. lot of our guys' heads of hey this is. what we are this is what we are capable. of doing. >> It's good breakdowns. >> Do do you take any ownership of of. giving the [ __ ] rat poison and. finally putting number one? >> Listen I some people got to learn how to. handle success. You know whenever you. get success you got to handle it. You. got to show up the next week. They they.

laid an egg. I don't know what to tell. you. That's not my fault. >> Tone, final thoughts. >> Yeah, a couple unsung heroes. Pton. Wilson, I believe he's had 13 tackles. backto-back weeks. He's 41. He's the one. who batted it coming off the edge uh. that Jack Sawyer caught. And then trade. deadline didn't happen yesterday. It. happened last week. Got Kyle Duggar from. the Patriots. He played I think like 74. of 75 snaps or something. 68 of 69, something like that. He came in, didn't. hear his name once in a bad way in the. game on Sunday. So, him and Ramsey at. the safety positions really kind of shed. things up. >> Congrats to you Steelers fans. back on.

the wagon, >> right? >> Age, I don't know if you know that. They're winning the Super Bowl again. >> The Steelers. >> Yeah. >> Yeah, I feel that. I felt that. I mean, you could tell on Tone's face like, yeah, that's what they think. >> Did you get a text or anything about not. picking the Steelers this weekend? >> I did not actually. No. I I forgot I. didn't pick him. Now you say that. >> Yeah, you took the Colts. We all did. >> I told you I got to take the I said I. got to the I was a believer of the Colts. and I was like, I got to pick him now. until they proved to me that I shouldn't. pick them. Here he goes. >> You remember last time whenever we were. out in Utah, they were chanting fire.

Canada. A lot of Steelers fans in Utah. Okay. I think that's just I don't know. why. I don't know if Pittsburgh has. marketed Utah, but it feels like there's. a lot of Steelers fans out there. Every. time we go out there, so many Steelers. fans on my way off stage out of there. going like, "Tomorrow we got the Colts. and I go, we might hang 50 on you. We. might like literally just so matterof. fact." That's all I was talking like, "Hey, this Colts offense absolute. juggernaut. Your defense not good.". Right? Isn't that kind of what's been. happening? We might run wild on all.

those people watching that Steelers uh. game. They thought the same thing going. into it. Yers won't admit it, but they. were definitely all thinking the same. exact thing. Holy [ __ ] we're going to. lose by 60 to this Colts team. Our. defense can't stop a [ __ ]. nosebleleed. There's no chance we're. going to be able to do that. Then five. turnovers, they're swarming all over the. place. They got sacks in bunches. They. got the boys going crazy. The 2005 teams. in there. The answers are like just I. can't believe the Indianapolis Colts. thought they were gonna come in here. What [ __ ] [ __ ] said that was gonna. happen. It's like all everybody was. thinking that. Now fully different.

trajectory and it might be the 2005. Bull. >> Yeah, I think that's the X factor. I. know it it definitely played a role. I. don't care if it was college or pro like. if you have a whole team of your guys. who came in and kind of hey this is a. standard. Obviously still is still. curtain goes way back but like. >> carried the baton. >> Yeah. This is these are you got Dick. Leone in the building. got all these. legends and the Steelers already do a. great job of keeping those guys around. [snorts]. Yeah, those guys are going to play. better. I didn't think they were going. to show back up as the legit [ __ ]. Steel Curtain, but they definitely.

>> That's a lot of people showing up for a. reason. >> Like that's a lot of people showing up. for. >> legends. >> And that makes sense for Pittsburgh. Like it just makes sense for the. entirety. AQ lot of happiness these. dudes brought to our lives. >> Yeah, they sure did. And I got to play. with some of them when I got drafted. there. I mean, look at big Casey. Hampton. He looks like he can still. play. >> Yeah, he certainly can. He actually. looks better than me. >> Yeah, he does. Yeah, looks incredible. >> Casey had to do what Casey had do. I. also think Casey uh after the amount of. respect we have for sumo wrestling, I. think we can speak on this. >> Casey Hampton would have been a grand.

master champion sumo wrestler. I think. if he would have known about the sport, I think with his leverage, his ability. to kind of do his thing. Look at Fanica. That guy was what, down to like 135. pounds at one point because he was. running Iron Man. Yeah, things like. that. >> Good squad. Jeff Reed just being right. in the middle of the staff. I do love. >> Yes. >> I'll continue. Shout out B man. >> Aaron Smith. >> Oh yeah, there he is up right. >> Travis Kursky. Big hokey up top. Oh, I. like it. Kendall Simmons. Remember him? I do. AJ Hook. >> it. >> He doesn't.

>> AJ. >> I'm just looking around. I'm perusing. through there. Sorry. Sorry. [laughter]. >> Hey, who's 81? Who's 81 down there? Who's 81? >> He's That's the greatest special teams. players Steelers have ever had. That's. Shawn Mo. >> I remember the name. I remember the. name. Shawn Mo. Great hair. I like the. way Shawn Moore. >> 90 91 could still play as well. Aaron. Smith. Greatest three, four defensive. end of all time right there. >> Great jawline, too. That [ __ ] guy. looks like he just got done roping. Jesus Christ, what a dog. >> Bigfoot, >> bottom left. Jeff Harding's up top, right in the middle behind Reed. >> Dan Crowder right there in the middle.

Number 35. >> Yeah. Who's number three? >> Jeff Reed. Yeah, that kicker. That was. kicker. >> See, he then went on to become the lead. singer of uh Creed. >> Well, actually, >> he looks sweet. >> Jeff Reed, exactly. [laughter] Hey, everything you're thinking. >> everything you're thinking right now. Awesome. Jeff Reed is Yes. Just by. looking at him, yes, he is everything. >> Legend. >> Yeah, he is. Made a lot of kicks for the. Pittsburgh Steelers. A lot of kicks for. the Pittsburgh Steelers. >> I didn't realize Tommy Gun and Chuck. Pagano are the same person. >> Yeah,

>> they look identical. >> I guess Tommy Gun Maddox, top left. corner there, eight uh quarterback. obviously for team. >> He does have a little Chuck Bagano in. him. I guess he was a super vibes guy in. the locker room. >> Oh, I don't doubt it. I guess Tommy Gun. was a real lightning rod in there. I. guess. >> NFL MVP. >> Yeah, I guess he was really the straw. potentially in LA. Really? Yeah. From. what I've been told, I've heard some. stories of some stuff just in the past. Who knows what's real, what isn't, but. all of them are like, "Yep, Tom Baddox. is awesome." Basically, is how they talk. about him. That whole team is. And.

you're right, them being around. certainly did some Wizen Hunter. I just. saw him. I just uh that's my first time. catching eyes on Wiz Hunter. I forgot. the amount of legends that are in there. who uh former GM. >> Kevin Colbert. >> right there. >> Yeah. >> Golly, that's p That's our childhood. >> Yeah. >> Thanks for showing up, boys. I wish it. was a different week. So, the hell with. Mr. Lton for scheduling that for the. Colts weekend. Can we have that be. another Hey, homecoming weekend. Can we.

do another one? Can we do another. weekend? Maybe not the Indianapolis. Colts. Let us kind of have our thing and. do our thing here. That would have been. great. Let's take a break. On the other. side, Stanford, Steve will be joining us. for another college football convo. And. I'll tell you what, with the co uh. college football playoff committee's. first bracket reveal, there's going to. be a lot of talk about AJ Hawk. Who's. sitting number one? >> I think that's the Ohio State Buckeyes. >> They played anybody? >> I don't know. Have they? >> They shown last night. >> They've shown up and dominated.

everybody. >> Yeah, >> they've dominated everybody. >> Oh, who they played last week? AQ. >> Relax, dude. They they they played a. terrible team last week. >> Penn State didn't just shut down. >> I was there. Hey, I was there. They got. athletes. They got studs, man. They look. good. And like they look they looked the. part. They look good. >> They looked apart against Oregon, too. >> Remember that goes a couple overtimes. >> Oh, yeah. >> They win that game. Who knows where. we're at right now. >> Yeah. They're probably ranked number. three or four in the in the playoffs. >> cuz then they probably beat UCLA.

>> Certainly beat Iowa. >> Then they beat Northwestern at home. Then they play Ohio State and they got a. Heisman Trophy candidate and they just. let him run by him all day long. Like. like he didn't know he could run like. they didn't know he could get behind the. D. >> Oh, they trust their guys. >> They were calling quarters. >> They trust their guys. >> [ __ ]. >> Wait till you see this highlight of the. linebacker come up. Orl Ree. >> He's the guy. What number is he? Eight. >> Yeah. So there's there's about being. there's about to be an offensive play. here. Jeremiah Smith obviously one hand. He's insane. And then you get this sick.

look, >> right? Oh. >> yeah, he's he's going to be an awesome. pro as well. >> Teach tape. He's. >> He's like 6'4, like 245, too. He's a. monster. He's huge. >> You and Sean Perkins before the first. college game day whenever we're there. for the Texas game, and Texas is back to. being who maybe everybody thought they. could be. They're like, "Hey, uh I was. like, Sean, who should I say up there. that makes me look like a super genius?". He goes, "Number eight, Rel. He's the. one." I go, "Sweet. Thank you so much.". I go up there completely forget. just.

basically just completely forget. And. then I think he had like six sacks or. something in the first like two weeks or. something like that. They're like, "Hey, Arvel Reese is the guy." I'm like, "Shawn knew before everybody." And I. could have looked like a genius, but. instead I'm riding alongside the wave of. holy hell, who's that guy with everybody. else, but you look at their schedule, Desmond Howard makes a point. Now, he's. a Michigan guy, so he's always going to. make a point about Ohio State. But it is. like you guys have just smacked. everybody in the mouth basically. It's. just everybody. And it's not your fault.

I mean, [ __ ] It's not Ohio State's. fault. And they've showed up and. dominated everybody, but we don't really. know. We don't really We have no idea. because everything has looks so damn. easy for them. But that might just be. who they are. >> Yeah. >> They might just [ __ ] do that to. everybody. We have no [music] idea. Certainly did to Penn State. >> What are you guys going to do? >> Yeah, we're narrowing it down. >> They're tracking planes. I heard, aren't. they tracking planes? Fine. >> Yeah, we're narrowing it. >> All right. >> Throw your hat in the ring. AQ. Sorry. paying probably pretty good for that. position.

>> Yeah. >> Tell me you're doing it for 15 a year. >> 1,500 because you love Penn State. >> Probably just do it for one of those. stupid Jeff Landry contracts that he was. talking about. >> Yeah. One of the one of those. >> Yeah. Just incentive incentives and game. by game. >> Someone's a little salty. They don't. know Nebraska football. [laughter]. >> Oh yeah. You. >> stand down. [laughter]. Be a friend. Tell a friend something. nice about change your life. We're back. in five.

Taking running, making spinning, making. kicking. This Buckeye's team is playing. football on a level nobody else in the. country is playing right now. [music].

That's just stupid. That's crazy. That also take us off the we do not. deserve to be. >> They all commit and love what's going on. in that weight room. They all commit and. love what Jim [music] Harbaugh is. preaching. And everybody in the. building's happy. Everybody's like. excited to be there. on the first row. Our fresher the first row, second row is. up here. >> It is infectious what they got going on. And how many owners are spending 300. million on a new facility just for.

practice facility? >> This is the birdies. >> Wow. >> Oh [ __ ]. >> But then for them to do it upright for. the last couple, it's like look out for. the Chargers, dude. Look out for the. Chargers, >> coach. Hey, I got a gift for you. >> Oh, yeah. >> Okay. So, miss your birthday and miss. Christmas.

>> Wa! Look at that. >> Your perspective on high five is one of. the greatest things you've ever seen. All. >> time in adventure. >> I love the high five. >> Yeah. Give each other a high five. >> Oh my god. >> Wow. Boom. >> [ __ ]. >> We wanted to make basically something. that we could buy. My dad made it. >> Oh, wow.

[laughter]. >> Feeling. I think you can get a pretty good pop. >> Yeah. >> That is incredible. >> Obviously national champion Michigan. man. Greatest high five. >> Yeah. >> Because of what you brought before the. high five win. >> [music]. >> Hell yeah. >> He tried to give a handshake to that. particular high five trophy. Did break.

the hand off. We had to put it back on. >> We're going to go handshake. >> Oh no. Oh no. >> There we go. >> We have so much respect. >> You guys just rolled teeth. This is. cool. >> This would be authorized level, wouldn't. it? To be honest, we didn't know we were. going to be able to get 11 people in. here. And then we pulled up 11, right? That's where.

>> Yeah. Start 11. >> I mean, wow. It looks like a lot of. highlights against one particular team. >> They played more than one game. Why. >> for one game? >> Imposing our will. >> This sucks. Party in the back. No one can beat no one out the hut. This. might be close. >> I love that Chargers team even more. Now, >> if you were to touch this grass, it. would feel as if the history of football.

was kind of one with your soul, one with. your balding. And then you look at the. views, the sand, >> Gabriel Gabriel. >> mountains with the cotton candy clouds, the way the sun will rise and then the. sun will set. And as the sun is setting. tonight, there's going to be a football. game taking place. You're talking about. movie stuff. What do you think it is. about your team in that locker room and. why do you think you guys have been able. to show up every week? >> You know, I think the buyin uh on our. team is unbelievable. We talk about a. player team. I think a lot of people say. that, but so rarely do you actually see. it. >> Two Goliath [music] Big 10 teams. What a.

magical matchup here in the Rose Bowl. And watching Ohio State do what they did. to Tennessee, it felt good for a North. It did. It felt good for the B. My god, look at those mountains. >> Look at those mountains. San Gabriel. Mountains. There's the field. >> The San Gabriel. [music]. >> San Gabriel. I believe that means thug. Gabriel. [laughter]. >> All parties and all agree that it's in. the best interest of everybody in public. safety uh that we postpone the game for. 24 hours.

DJ Hawk's working for the goal. >> Hello, beautiful people and welcome to. beautiful Pasadena, California. The. granddaddy of them all, the 111th. Rose [music] Bowl, which will be taking. place on the most beautiful field in the. history of football. The Oregon Ducks, who are the Big 10 champs, will take on. the Ohio State Buckeyes.

The college football playoff is. obviously in the middle [music] of a. transition era, but we go back in time. into a movie like setting to battle in. the Big 10 to see who gets to move on. and who goes home. Our UFOs just flew. over top. of Bomber and in the national anthem and. on a day in the United States of America. where a heinous act has happened. It's a.

nice reminder that we'll get your ass. You might take a shot but you're never. going to win a 10 for Howard. Same exact. play action. Drops it off to Jeremiah. Smith. down by a Smith. First touch is a. touchdown. Total. is right here. So Will Howard knows his. room. Looks all steps up in the pocket. Great throw. >> Takes a shot and what happens? Jeremiah.

Smith comes up with the ball. Hand off. to the left. Jordan Chase. [screaming]. >> Well, Howard time. Oh no. Jeremiah. Smith's wide ass open. Ohio State is kicking the living shite. out of the Oregon Ducks. If Jeremiah. Smith is on your team, I think you can. win every game. Tavon Henderson. He's got the 30, the 20, the 10.

Touchdown. They can run it. They can spin it. They. can kick it. This Buckeye's team is. playing football at a level nobody else. in the country is playing right now. Yeah, there's a low snap. Rolls left, throws bounce to the right. Jerem field. So that's another first down. Thus far, this game has been absolutely. shining.

I'm stepping. Oh my god. Oh wow. Wow. Wow. Oh, that is so beautiful. You got Matt Hardy. on the left there. [laughter]. >> AJ, I see the 47. Unfortunately, my youngest. son uh puked all over himself and went. to the hospital, so my whole family's. not here anymore to hear that. >> But I'm getting some updates every once. in a while. He seems to be doing not. much better. >> He puked over the whole section.

>> Jeez. >> Instant urgent care. Instant hospital. >> Oh no. >> What type of [ __ ] was he eating? Is. someone making salmon down here? We came. down here and smelled like fish. >> Look at this. >> For those that have never been here, I. would recommend coming and checking it. out. Although this particular game was. absolute. >> shoo.

>> Hey, let's go. >> This show sticks and the fact that you. listen we are very very thankful for. Makabi on the line with a gorgeous. assist. >> The all-time leading tackler for the. Green Bay Packers. You. >> can. [screaming]. start. >> Damn it. >> Be a friend. Tell a friend something. nice could change their [music] life.

>> Hello, beautiful people, and welcome. back to [music] our humble the boat, the. Thunderdome, on this Watt Wednesday, November 5th, 2025. Hour three of the. program starts right now. >> Football. >> This man's a college football national. champion, Super Bowl champion AJ Hawk. The toxic tables here at Boss of Conor. and that's Tai Schmidt. 9-year NFL vet, host of Everything DB, Good Dad D. Dary. is here. 12-year NFL vet, Super Bowl. champion, host of In the Trenches, Top. Five, Top Five, Top Five. Uh AQ Shipley.

is here live from Hammer Dad. He's AP. Tone, an accomplished uh author of. college football, and he will certainly. be a big piece of what we're about to. do. The conversation we're about to have. is not like the other ones. No, no, ladies and gentlemen, it's time for. another college football combo with. Stanford Steve. >> What's going on? What? So, >> sweet digital camo. >> Yeah. What's going on? I I mean, you. look really cool right now. What is uh. crushing? >> So, what do we have here, Steve? What is. this? Just uh just some Navy, Fear of.

the Bones, you know, Jolly Rogers, a. little Navy. Big game this week. >> Oh, hell yeah. Hey, Navy. Tough one. against North Texas. Not as tough as. Tyler Hang with you under the upright, though, you know. Uh. >> I stand by it. >> Sorry, Jonah. Jonah. >> Jonah. Yeah, a lot of kicks I saw this. weekend. Looked very similar that were. all called no good. >> I appreciate you doing this for the good. of the team. I appreciate Herb Street. bringing out the blockers. I respect the. the fact that Jonah was a high school. kicker all region going three of five.

And I also love the fact that everybody. was kind of saying, "No, I think it. hooked in." And you were like, "Nope.". Cuz I heard everybody in the ear going, "No, I think it's good. I think it's. good." I don't think so. Says Stanford. Steve. Everybody in there was saying, "It's good. It's good. It's good." And. you're like, "And then you even went a. step further." Yep. That thing actually. What? Hey, Nope. Sorry about it. That. one left, brother. Yeah, that one. As. this kid's celebrating, Steve's looking. him right in his eye. I don't think so, brother. You think that? Once a review. Obviously, they counted it from the.

angles that we had, but I want to let. you know I appreciate your integrity to. say with these eyes, I didn't see it go. in and that's what that segment needs is. good integrity in there. So, thank you, Stanford, Steve. >> Yeah, I didn't think it was conclusive. that, you know, when it went to the. review, I didn't I didn't think it was. conclusive. So, uh yeah, we're moving. on. Can't wait till this week. Uh we'll. uh we'll get after it. >> Yeah, I hope to go to Lick. >> I I I liked your move. I want to let you. know. I do appreciate your move. And if. the camera angle wasn't where it was, it. might have looked a little different. Like maybe it was a miss and you're a. hero. Instead, I think you were number.

six or 16th trending topic in the United. States of America. And a lot of people. were saying, "This guy's an [ __ ]. >> This guy sucks.". >> Yeah, this guy's an [ __ ] So, I uh I. appreciate you sticking up. And then. your tweet later, well, that SMU kick. looked pretty sim uh similar. What was. that? >> Same thing. >> Same thing. Steve's got a point. >> and they said no good there. Steve's. like, "Oh, I'm the I'm the bad guy. I I. just I know ball is what Steve's saying. >> Oh, we covered the upright. You see? Oh, no, we didn't.

>> Same kick. >> That's no good. It's. >> like the same kick. >> That's no good. >> Grabs all over. >> That's no good. [laughter]. >> That is no good. Ty, you're 100%. >> side by side. They're both wide right. >> Stanford Steve, you're a good man. We. appreciate the [applause] hell out of. you. >> Love you, Ste. >> Uh we also did go to a website cuz you. told us to. Yeah. Although we don't love. that you were told to do that. Uh, we. went because we love you. We support. you. Same with Herby. And just know that. Stanford Steve, even though people were. saying that you're trying to, you know, rob these kids of money and everything. like that, we think you're a good guy.

We love you, Steve. We love you, buddy. >> Love you guys, too. Appreciate you. >> You know what else? We love the thought. of starting with 12 counting down to. one. And last night, we got the first. bracket from the actual committee that's. going to be doing the selecting of the. college football playoff. What's your. big takeaway from last night, Steve? uh. what should you be thinking about? Basically, Tone's take was they don't. respect Oregon much. It seems like. Oregon doesn't have a lot of respect. They're one loss away from potentially. being out of this entire thing. Is that. something you agree with? And what else.

did you see? >> Uh I I see where they're coming from. with Oregon, but I get it. You know, with the best win being uh against. Northwestern. Now, the good thing about. Oregon, they have plenty of. opportunities moving forward. I thought. the top three uh I wanted to see what. that was going to look like and I had a. feeling Ohio State was going to be with. what their game control and what their. dominance has looked like. Plenty of. people have talked about the competition. that they've played but I look at them. being ahead of of Indiana simply due to. one reason. Look who Indiana scheduled.

in the out of conference and look what. Ohio State did in in scheduling Texas in. that opener. Uh, so I have no problem. with Ohio State being number one&m might. might have the best win in the country. at Notre Dame, but there's other games. with the defense. Uh, I I thought the. board chair made good valid points with. how dominant the defenses of Indiana and. Ohio State have been compared to one, you know, little thing about&m. Yeah, the defense has given up more points. The biggest takeaway to me is that this.

committee seems to be rewarding close. losses. And when you look at Notre Dame. with two close losses to at that, you. know, last play of the game, they're. ahead of of say, you know, Texas, uh. Iowa, uh plenty to play for moving. ahead, but seems like they got a lot of. credit for, you know, keeping it close. against Indiana in a home game. Uh so. that was one thing I thought was was. pretty evident that that close losses uh. look to be a factor for this committee.

>> AP Tone, your thoughts on the close loss. theory from Stanford, Steve? Yeah, I. mean he's he's absolutely correct. I. mean Notre Dame lost on, you know, a. fumbled snap at home to&m in overtime. and then a close loss down in Miami in. week one. And then if you want to talk. about Texas Tech who is right ahead of. them, their only loss is on a last. second play to Arizona State. So when. when Steve's talking about the close. losses for sure and Georgia's, you know, close loss would be better than better. than Oregon's obviously because you know.

IU kind of handled them a good bit and. their one loss being to Bama who's the. number four seed. So yeah, as far as. Steve's talking about those close. losses, that is that is definitely a. thing and that's definitely going to. drive people crazy. Ste, >> yes, definitely going to drive people. crazy. But this is also going to make. some football people pumped about, hey, who do you play? What are your losses? Where are your losses? What do your. losses look like? When were your losses? Like that is something that I think a. lot of people hope that they add into. the decision-m process. What are they. going strictly off? Each kind of. committee has their own thing, right,

Stanford? Steve, isn't that kind of part. of the problem? Like this committee. might view things vastly different than. last year's committee and then people. will say, well, last year they didn't. It's like, well, this is a different a. completely different situation, right? Isn't that kind of like the evolving. process of the CFP committee? >> Yeah, that's you know, uh, you know, I. think some things are subjective and. object. You know, people want to throw. all those big words around. I try and. just watch the games and figure out. who's the best. But the way my record is. going this year, I can't be on that any. say. So, I'm going to listen to the. people that are in the room uh in the. committee. The one thing I will say is.

that the idea of the losses with Miami. uh you know, I was interested in the. Miami Notre Dame comparison and Miami. being eight spots lower than Notre Dame. Uh tells you I think it's more recency. Uh you know, Miami is as frustrating in. their losses as anybody. Uh you got a. one loss where the quarterback throws. four picks. Uh another loss I believe. they had 13 penalties in an overtime. game where they had the lead and you. know had a costly penalty for SMU to get. a field goal. So Miami is the one I.

think the biggest loser to me right now. because when you look at them moving. forward there's not a lot of. opportunities along with Vanderbilt. they don't have a lot of opportunities. to get wins uh and move up as as does. Oregon uh you know or even say a Texas. Tech or BYU like they they have ranked. teams on their schedule. So uh Miami. being down that far uh it was pretty eye. opening to me. >> Yeah. Bad for the ACC as well you know. and obviously lose games that's what's. going to happen especially up there and. you start asking yourself is there going.

to be two besides out of the ACC or they. only going to get one? Go ahead Con man. Yeah, Steve, uh, looking at the, you. know, games remaining, especially with. those teams that are on that bracket, is. Georgia Tech verse Georgia going to be. the biggest game you think in that, you. know, rivalries history? But as far as. just foreseeing what the playoff's going. to be, Georgia Tech goes down, someone. else goes in, Georgia goes down, they're. out, all of a sudden maybe, you know, a. different SEC team, Texas per by chance, they slide in. What do you think about. that situation kind of brewing now?

Yeah, I think it's enormous, Connor, when you look at Georgia Tech and what. they are, their strength of schedule, I. believe, is in the hundreds. Uh, and you. know, that's a team that every year is. going to play Georgia, right? So, you. got out of conference game there. They. go and schedule Colorado, who you think. is going to be all right, but they're. getting worse and worse every week. Uh, you you beat Clemson and Clemson might. not make a bowl game, and it's just. tough. And then you, you know, you have. that game that catches up to you, uh, where you can't get your defense on. track against NC State and you get that.

first loss. But they, they are in. control. Uh, you know, the comparative. thing, and that's why I think the Miami. Notre Dame thing is unfortunate also is. as big as these conferences are, we get. less and less head-to-head, and I'm I. think head-to-head should should matter. a ton. Uh, so the Georgia Tech game is. going to be enormous as far as. comparative. You know, it's an out of-. conference game. It's an SEC versus ACC. And you know, to Georgia Tech's point, it's it's not going to get in their way. of making the ACC title game. But yeah,

that's uh it I thought they were ranked. properly uh with with what their resume. actually is when you take a step back. and look at it. Uh but they got a couple. chances for some monster wins. Uh but. yeah, that game is is enormous to your. point. >> You talk about the SEC and the ACC. showing out there at that particular. point for maybe how many bids should. they have? And then the Big 12 obviously. has a lot of teams vying for the Big 12. championship. Still very much in it, which is a beautiful thing. I mean, BYU, Utah might be having a holy war reunion. at the Big 12 Championship game, but.

then you think about that other. conference, you know, the one up north. Go ahead, Ty. >> Yeah, Steve, when you look at the back. half of the rankings with Iowa, Michigan, and USC all clustered right. there, do you think that suggests that. more than likely the Big 10 is only. going to be a three bid league? because. obviously you could make the case that. either SC or Iowa would swap with Oregon. potentially because they both self-delay. them and then obviously they're, you. know, kind of saving grace to get a. fourth team in would be Michigan. potentially beating Ohio State. But with.

the way this is set up right now, do you. think that that means that the Big 10 is. probably only getting three teams in? >> Yeah, that's the way it looks right now. What I will say to those teams. individually, you know, control your own. destiny, whatever, what have you. Uh, it's there. The issue I have is if. Michigan wins and beats Ohio State, they're going to be in the Big 10 title. game because that they're their other. losses out of conference. So, you would. have potentially Indiana Michigan in. Indianapolis. Ohio State sitting with.

one loss and in the most recent number. one team in the country, which would. turn, you know, throw a whole flux. Uh, Iowa, it's there, man. Uh, I I would be. pumped if I was an Iowa fan knowing that. you're you're 20. Yeah. I mean, what a. weekend for you. You got the Packers. Monday night. We got Iowa CBS 3:30. Good. luck. I hope you don't have your kids. this weekend. >> Jeez, >> you need some time. >> Send the kids out there. Send the kids. out there. It's a big one. Iowa can win. maybe the biggest game that they've had. in a long time during the regular. season.

>> Yeah. I mean, it really is all in front. of them. You know, I It was kind of like. a tongue and cheek fun now. >> Lingering. >> Yeah, lingering. But like they I I as of. right now, I really do feel like they're. going to beat Oregon this week. I don't. think there's been this much juice. around an Iowa team in quite some time. in the building as well. But then the. the true test, I mean, obviously that's. a test, but they have to go to USC. So, it's like if they could get through both. those teams though, like look out. Iowa. might be sneaking in there as like an 11. or 12 seed. >> Go ahead, Tone. >> Steve, I was just looking at and I.

brought it up earlier, but I wanted to. get your opinion. Notre Dame sitting at. 10 and then right behind them, Texas and. Oklahoma. Both with two losses as well. Texas still has Georgia and&M. Oklahoma's still got Bama. If it's a big. if, but if those teams win out, is there. a chance they jump Notre Dame and Notre. Dame sitting on the outside with their. two close losses? >> They should, but I don't see it. happening. Okay. I I would the most. definite thing I feel about right now is. that Notre Dame's going to get a home.

game in the playoff. uh when you look at. what they've done and and you know I I I. just wish they were down a little bit so. they had to earn that 10-game win streak. to get in and and you prop them up again. like I said to the two close losses and. then everybody throws away what they. looked like last week against Boston. College. >> Boston College is atrocious. Stanford. beat Boston College. They are not a good. football player. >> Stanford's playing good ball. >> Bill O'Brien said they're showing up and. fighting. Okay, you want to be negative? Get the hell on out of here. >> Signs up. >> Signs up. We're playing football.

>> I love Bill O'Brien, but that they're. not a good outfit. Uh, as I said, >> Oh, that's what the guy asking the. question. >> Not a good outfit. >> Yeah. Yeah. The guy asking a question of. Bill O'Brien said, "This sucks." Basically, Bill O'Brien. said, "I don't want to hear it.". >> Okay. We need to be This is a real This. is a real press conference. It happened. what, yesterday? Maybe two days ago. >> Yeah. And even worse, if you go back to. how Bill O'Brien got there, guy could. have been the OC of Ohio State last year. if I do remember correctly. Or was that. two years ago? But either way, uh I. think it makes sense now why Jeff Hafley.

left BC because they got no resources up. there. >> Well, Bill Bryan said his son's up and. we're playing football. So, he's about. sick of all the. >> talking season now for the BC Eagles and. they're going to be in that Frozen 4. We. know they're going to be dangling around. with their sticky mitts. We understand. that that's going to happen. But yes, you're talking about Notre Dame's big. time wins. They're going to have to put. on a show. I think Tone said at the. beginning of the uh year, he said um if. Notre Dame wins every game by 30 like. they did last year and they just kind of. do that for the rest of the year, they're definitely going to get in the. college football playoff. I assume they.

were already out because they had so. many wins. But Texas&M being who they. are, obviously is a big deal for them. Like I I think that's a big deal. And. then Reese Davis, who is a very. influential person in college football, he speaks to the committee. He's one of. the only per people that get to do that. He hosts college game day. He said Notre. Dame uh I test top five team in America. and it's like maybe and maybe just the. two losses are completely uh tough luck. almost because everybody talks about the. Notre Dame schedule like Notre Dame's. able to schedule whoever they want.

They're independent. They're going to be. on national TV. They got enough money. They're able to kind of do what they. want. They don't have a conference. championship. They have it easy when it. comes to that. It's like they scheduled. some tough ones early. They lost them. both. And then the national narrative. for the first time was like Notre Dame. is done. So, it's like a very different. Notre Dame season as opposed to like one. where they're kind of who have they. played, who have they played, who have. they played. Now, it's like, well, they've actually played top three teams, uh, top three team, lost to them close. Very close. And they've dominated. everybody else, they're going to get in. We all assume. >> Yeah, >> it's Notre Dame. >> It's Notre Dame. >> They should just say at the start of the.

year, no matter what, Notre Dame, you. lose two or less, you're auto bid. That. should be a part of the rules because. remember the SEC and the Big 10. allegedly like hey if you make the. championship game you should be. automatically in. So like we that's what. I think was being talked about because. you know the big angle started to become. well these guys aren't going to want to. play in championship games because it's. another loss. Like what is a. championship game? Championship game. means nothing because these teams don't. care because they just don't want to get. there because they don't want to lose. And it's like well if you made an. automatic bid for both finalists of the.

championships then it's a whole. different conversation. We're not there. yet, you know. We're not there yet. But. whenever we get there, maybe it is like. uh finalists for the championship games. get in and Notre Dame if they have less. than two losses, they also get a spot. All the other spots up for grabs. All. the other spots up for grabs. There's a. chance that they actually do that, Ty. >> Yeah. I mean, but that it's Notre Dame. Okay. Like, so we can say all this kind. of stuff. It's one of the most powerful. and biggest and most beloved. institutions in the United States. So,

if they're even on the cusp of. potentially getting in, you know, they're going to say, "Hey, you know, would you rather see Notre Dame or. Memphis in the playoffs?". >> Well, Memphis is obviously group of. five. >> No. Yeah, I get it. >> They got their own slot. There's no. reason for you to attack. >> I'm just saying, you know, if Notre Dame. is even close to getting in. >> You think that committee is going to say. >> got a lot of old white people on that. committee? How many of those guys are. Catholics? >> You think they're. >> I don't know. I don't know.

>> Yeah. >> A amen. >> Amen. Yeah. There is. >> let's get Notre Dame in this thing. >> Now that is always the problem. >> Baptist. >> That is what everybody thinks is. actually happening. Okay. That's what. everybody is thinking actually. happening. And uh there's a chance. anytime humans are involved there is a. little bit of bias. Now let's talk about. bias. Let's talk about trust. Debut has. a question for you. Steve. >> Yeah. I want to ask you Steve, maybe. even you Tony. The eye test. Which one. of these quarterbacks if you pop up? Which one of these quarterbacks do you.

trust the most down the stretch? >> Mendoza Moore. >> It's man Simpson. >> Simpson. saying. >> say. >> Reed Bachmar. >> Gunner. >> Granowski. Thank you. >> He's not all there. >> He should be [laughter] lingering. though. >> Lingering. >> Yeah, >> that graphic. I mean, I I look at all. the the toys that each quarterback has. to play with, uh, Debut, and they all.

have awesome awesome, you know, deals. where, you know, saying continually, you. know, you see them open up the playbook. more and more more throws down the. field. Marcel Reed, you know, doing more. with his legs in that win. The last time. we saw him against LSU, Simpson's a guy. that's probably responded the best to. adversity, uh, you know, knowing what. Florida State looked like, but then. ramping it up. And I I thought him being. the reason uh you know third down, fourth down conversions at Missouri, at.

Georgia uh jumping them early, I would. probably trust trust Simpson uh because. I've seen him face adversity and I know. what I'm getting. Uh but I mean the guy. we're not even talking about in Mendoza, I'm not sure what Serat's going to do. Is he going to be out a couple weeks? Indiana sounds like they got they got. pretty banged up. So I'm interested to. see uh how many guys they have. Uh, I'm. not saying they're gonna, you know, blow. it at at Penn State, but right now when. you're saying with all things aligned, I. would look at at at Tyson. >> What are we even saying in these words, okay, blow it and all this other stuff.

Let's not put that on the universe. Obviously, Indiana's having a miraculous. run. Fernando Mendoza, an absolute stud, but you're right. The injury is. certainly something. And AJ, let's talk. about Julian Sain. He's the odds on. favorite to win the Heisman. Nobody. really talking about him strictly. because he has so much talent or because. you guys haven't played anybody. Not. your fault, but you seemingly haven't. played anybody, AJ. Yeah, I mean it. that's they're in a tough spot, but they. are so good that no matter who they. play, they're going to say, "Oh, this. team sucks anyway." No m like Penn State. started out, weren't they? Number one in. the country like preseason. Like I. understand things happen, but yeah,

they're they're taking care of business. And I first I went to the first this. first Ohio State game I went to in. person this year, the Penn State game. and watching I was like we got a little. pregame field pass with my kids and then. they usher you up and get you off the. field. You can't sit there and watch the. game there. And I I hung around and. watched like the first couple drives and. Julian saying the ball, man. I tell you. what, Pat, you know, when we see a guy. throw a ball in person, you can kind of. tell early and that dude, he's got it. Like he I know he's thrown to some. studs, but this dude, he has the moxy, how he carries himself, how he walks. through the huddle, how he everything.

about him, like he he seems like he's. been starting for 10 years. >> How what year is this for him? >> Second year, I believe, right? >> Yeah, red shirt freshman, right? >> Oh, so he's got another year at least. That's great news for Ryan Day and. obviously the entire offense, but. >> he he's not getting much chatter at all. And uh I I love that coach Sabin said uh. he was at Alabama and the coach had him. playing scout team for an entire year. What a dumbass or something like that. It's like he has been high on Sane. Coach Sabin has been high on Sane since.

like before that Texas Ohio State game. and now now he's odds on favorite to win. the Heisman. Feels like the sports books. are high on him. We need an Ohio State. prime time matchup. We We need a massive. game. And AJ, to your point, Penn State. was supposed to be that. They're not. It's like every game is supposed to be. and then it's not. >> But there's teams that get caught by. these teams, though. And Ohio State has. not. They've maintained their dominance. And that defense is outrageous. AJ Hawk, >> that's the thing I wanted to ask. Stanford Steve. We asked like, "Hey, who. which quarterback do you trust or pass.

the eye test? Which defense do you trust. the most, Stanford, Steve, when you look. at those four top four to six teams?". >> Yeah. I've thought about this a lot watching. these teams AJ and I to me Ohio State. plays better team defense. Indiana has. better difference makers up front, but. when you I mean you guys talked about. Arvel Reese earlier like I I saw their. first PR or their last practice before. the Texas game. I'm like who the hell is. number eight? Where's he been hiding? And then he's just gone crazy this year. I love the obviously you love the back.

end uh styles uh both of them uh the. speed they they play with. Uh, so I I. trust Ohio State the most. Um, I would. just if if if Indiana's in that. conversation, I understand it, but they. have more difference makers up front, but Fischer didn't play against. Maryland. Uh, he's the quarterback of. that defense. He really impressed me uh. against Oregon. But overall, trust, I I. go with the Buckeyes. >> All right. Well, we appreciate the hell. out of you. Thank you so much for. joining us. Oklahoma's defense also. very, very good. They're right on the. outside if they're able to find their.

way in. And we're heading to Love, Texas. down there. BYU, Texas Tech. What should. I be knowing? I've been hearing a lot. about tortillas. And then tortillas, I. guess, are kind of bands or something. like that from the game. And obviously, I can't wait to get down there. I I've. heard we got some cowboy mentality. >> I I am very very lucky, Pat. I was there. in love for the greatest night in the. history of Levik, the Michael Crabtree. catch against Texas. It's probably the.

best sporting event I've ever been to in. my life. The place was absolutely. insane. If you go back, that's it's. Halloween weekend. The Batman movie with. Heath Ledger had just come out. Everyone's dressed as the Joker. Uh I. mean, it was it was nuts. And they they. get the Crabtree catch. They rush the. field like three times. Like when. there's one second left in the game, Texas Tech has to kick off from like. their five yard line and the field is.

just absolute madness. Uh like I said, best atmosphere I I've seen. So I I. they're supposedly they're already. camping out. Uh be ready for some stakes. the size of your head. Yeah, I'm. standing right there like the 10 yard. line. You could see me. Um. >> Oh yeah. >> Oh, there he is. Not the other guy. It's. at the other guy. absolute [snorts]. scene uh with what was uh I think I. think McConnah went up to the press box. because the sidelines were so crazy that. night. Uh but it was an alltimer. It it. is you want to talk about West Texas,

man. It it's it's all in love and now. with the money I'm I'm hearing Coach. Magcguire said you won't even recognize. it with the facilities and all that. So, uh I I can't wait. Uh like I said, steaks for your head, the size of your. head. I can't wait to eat one Friday. night and Thursday. >> I I like I like big old meat. I like I. like big old meats, especially, you. know, you get a little cowboy cut, you. know, on that thing. A little little bit. savory sauce on that thing down there, you know, and you got one big old hat. You walk in there, you hang that some. [ __ ] on the wall because we like to. show respect to the place that we are.

You got them boots on. You got a buckle. on. And by God, we're tucking that some. [ __ ] in. And we're go ahead and button. that all the way up. Maybe. >> pops. >> Mhm. >> Definitely got little bit of inseam on. this thing right here. >> Definitely a little inseam. We'll pop. that thing up too if we want it. >> I can't wait to get down there. You. already got the fit picked up. >> In my mind, I see what it looks like or. could look like. >> Where's some pearl snaps? Some pearl. snaps on your shirt. >> So, [snorts] certainly a possibility, but on. that note, there's a gentleman.

I don't I don't know if I should say his. name or not, but he was some uh town. what's that like the person who like uh. coordinates what events come into town. and stuff like that. It's a like a town. organiz uh town uh. >> community organizer. >> something along those it was a voted in. something. Okay. This guy whenever we. went down to Texas for something he was. there he delivered me a cowboy hat. My. name is blah blah blah. They call me the. woof. Have you ever seen anything like. that? I get things done. yada yada yada. Welcome to Texas. Sick cowboy hat. This.

guy sick. He had boots on obviously the. entire thing. I'm like hell yes. I wore. that thing on game day. That is the I. believe it's the it was either the tan. one or the black one. I forget which one. it was, but it was the first time I wore. one. It was it was from this man. This. man is a Texas Tech grad. So, he has. reached out and been like, "Hey, listen. >> We got ideas here." So, I think I'm. going to be pretty suited and booted. >> We got a lot of belt buckles being. offered up. Obviously, they earn them. down there. I just buy them. So, it's a. little bit different animal, but they. are a sweet accessory to add to your. stuff. So, I think it should be a pretty.

country ass Saturday. I I I mean, they're camping out. We talk about them. camping out. They got like tents lined. up outside the stadium. I think for them. to get in there, set up Mario Kart. outside. I mean, they are. >> kids taking shifts. >> Yeah. Garden tents and spots to get in. there. It's like the place is. outrageous. And they got a huge one. against BYU. I cannot wait to get down. there. It literally Graham Harold, what. a stud. AJ, I heard you say his name. >> He's awesome. Great throw. Great throw. Great. How do you stay in bounds on. that? >> It's kind of like Ryan Williams from the.

other day. >> Yeah, very similar. You're right. Blake. Gideon dropped an interception right. before that, too. >> See, toddy, brother. >> Always come back and bite you. >> Catch the ones they throw. >> Yeah. All right, Steve. We appreciate. the hell out of you. You look awesome, ladies and gentlemen. >> Appreciate you guys. >> Hey, thank you for wearing a WVU. We. won. Huge win. >> Monster win. Now we're a favorite this. week. Come on. >> Is the hard edge back? >> I think so. >> I'm thinking Yeah. Scotty Fox, quarterback. Yeah. I'm thinking we got a. guy. the moxy through the roof. Hard.

edge reel and these guys have all had to. battle through one training camp with. Rich Rod, one summer conditioning, okay, and hard times this season. So, the guys. that are still playing and still there, I think are a bit hardened. Like I I. think we have kind of maybe got to the. point where it's like a culture is close. and then obviously we're going to have. to add in in the offseason, but it's. like maybe Rich Rod is able to find a. little something out of these books. Maybe he is a little able to find a. little something out there. And in the.

Big 12 now, I know Texas Tech is. obviously going to be good. BYU is going. to be good forever. Utah is the real. deal. But. Mountaineers start climbing all of a. sudden. >> There's a little bit of an East Coast. fist fight coming to town. They're. coming straight out of mountains with a. hard edge and an attitude and hopefully. a lot more boosters. going forward. >> We need more. Steve, why don't you come. give some money to West Virginia. Mountaineers? [laughter].

>> Can the Jerry West estate help out? Maybe. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. I mean, >> I think they do. Maybe they do, though. Yeah, but maybe they do. Johnny West, his son, his boy, played basketball. >> Yes, >> he was he was awesome. Johnny West was a. great guy. But yeah, if you run into. anybody with a lot of money, just ask. them if they want to pick up the West. Virginia Mountaineers. I I'm That's what. I'm doing right now at this moment. >> Yeah. And we're going to West Texas. There's a lot of oil money down there. Maybe maybe maybe they like West. Virginia. >> Yeah. I fear though. Yeah. With us being. in a Big 12 with them. I I need to find.

a natural gas. >> Exactly. >> I need to maybe get my own. my own rig to kind of [laughter] dive. down there and get natural gas. Maybe. we're the West Virginia Gas. Mountaineers. You know what I mean? Maybe we get in there. I need to talk to. Jerry Jones to find that [ __ ] You're. the man, ladies and gentlemen. San. Francisco. AJ, I don't know if we've gotten your. full take on Jerry Jones thinking he's. going to make a hundred billion dollars. So why what are we talking about. football for right now? What are we. talking about football for?

>> Well, we can't do like we have. technology now. He can still go manage. hundred billion dollar possible, I. guess, well that he's he's trying to. pump out and then uh still work on the. Cowboys. Look, he's still able to make. big deals, bring some players in. >> That's right. He's the one on the phones. making all these trades as well. He is. the general manager for the Dallas. Cowboys. And uh we certainly love the. way he's just come out and said, "Yeah, if it's boring, I'll [ __ ] stir it up. Just why not?" Yeah. If not me, then. who? We're going to talk about the. Cowboys. But there's a hundred billion. dollar present value with gas out there. That's why I'm talking to you on the. telephone rather than trying to fix our. defense with Dallas Campbell. I woke up.

this morning. I got sent a memo. I. [ __ ] printed it out. I read it. They. said $100 billion. Who's Whose hundred billion dollars is. that? That could be yours, Mr. Jones. All we got to do is get three miles. down. It's going to be tough to do, but. if you give us about a billion dollars, we'll be able to get hundred billion. dollars. Is this in about a week or. about a month? probably like a year, sir. Well, let's get some shovels. Let's. get this thing started. And that's Jerry. Jones in a nutshell. He's always going. to go for it. He goes big. Him getting. Quinnon Williams feels like he says he's.

going big. I got one trade already done. That was a Logan Wilson one. I might. have another one. I might have another. one. Quinnon comes in there. You know, he's always going to be the topic. Are. they ever going to be able to win? And. maybe they need to make play for. offensive line because if you have a. great offensive line, you have a great. football team. Ladies and gentlemen, it's time to go in the trenches with AQ. Shipley for our top five performing. offensive lines out of week nine. Who's number five in. >> San Francisco 49ers? >> Wow. >> Yeah, you can't control who you play, obviously. >> Sorry, Bruce. They they they're not very. good on defense right now, and.

everybody's running all over them. Let's. look at this backside combo, though. You. got Jake Brendle out with an injury. Insert Matt Hennessy, former Atlanta. Falcon, gets the climb check out in. space. Trent Williams doing his thing. Christian McCaffrey runs through a big. gaping hole. We love those. If you if. you go back to the beginning real quick, Foxy, remember a couple weeks ago, we. had you check as a tilt. He faked it, went this way. Now we gained plus one on. this toss, crack toss, gains leverage on. the defense. Love the way they ran that.

>> Is you check still the indicator on. where everything's going. Is that what. you're finding? >> He always is. But the thing that they're. doing differently now is now they're. starting to send him one way and bring. him back. So you can't get full tells. It's pretty cool what they're doing. >> Yeah. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool. me every time. That's use check. football. seems like he is always going. right where the play's going and it's. right off his ass and it always works. Congrats to him putting together maybe. one of the greatest fullback resumes in. the history of ball. Who's the number. four performing offensive line of week. nine? Wow, the LA Ram LA Rams.

>> Wow. Congrats to them. >> Yeah, they did a great job. They ran for. almost 170 yards this week between. Kairen Williams and Blake Corm. Here you. got Blake Cororm. Check this out. You. call the perfect play into a slanting. defense. Everybody slants. Cool. All you. got to do is seal the edge. Look at. Parkinson on Deario Davis at the second. level. might be hold but got away from. it or got away with it there. And then. look at Puka Nakua getting this thing. started outside wide zone. I mean. anybody can run through that hole, boys. >> Puka Nakua giving it up for the boys. Obviously love everything about it. Sean. McVey always has a good run game. You.

know there was that one year they had a. a potential ass offensive line. They. address it and move on. He respects the. position. I believe. >> the thing I love about what he's done. this year if you go back to 161 17 when. he first got there he was ahead of the. game. He was doing all the shifts and. motions. They were going jet motion and. they were just pushing to spots. This. year they went back to simplicity. They. are doing every single thing the same. way, same formation and they are. downhill at you and running the zone. >> Oh, I just saw their number three. performing offensive line out of week. nine. Holy hell. That's good football. team. >> Good football team. Good football team.

The Carolina Panthers. >> Wow. Congrats on that big win. >> If we can pause this real quick, I'm. just going to set this up. This was a. pivotal play in the game, right? This is. the play that got them into field goal. range to win the game. And if you look. at Bryce Young and you look at Rico D, they notice that Michael Parsons is. standing up, Cooper stand, see him. talking. They're basically bluffing, making it think like, "Hey, we're going. to run a pass right here." And you got. him in pass protection. And then they. seal it off, they hand it off, you get. man coverage on the back end, brings the.

safety out of the box, everybody seals. it off, and you get the huge run right. there. >> First down, win the game. Uh, set them. up obviously for the field goal. Bluffing the Green Bay Packers defensive. front. Everybody's saying we're going to. go for a pass. And instead, Dao shows. incredible patience. AJ, this Dao fella, Rico, is awesome to watch. Now, he can't. be pumping and gyating after he scores. touchdowns. He's learned that lesson. I. guess we all have that. Some refs just. ain't going to have any pumps. I'm a no. pump ref. You can have two pumps maybe.

with other refs. You're in no pump. territory with me on the call. Rico. learned that. And also, I think we're. all learning he's a dog. AJ Hog. >> No, he's awesome. And credit to Bryce. Young. Yeah, he is very like. demonstrative when he's going over and. pointing and and bluffing this whole. situation. So hopefully he continues to. do that as the year goes. But yeah, look. at that. Like all right, come on. What I. guess he would get you thinking though. if you're Micah and you're the Well, is. he is he messing with me? Like this is. this is kind of weird. I haven't seen. him do this a whole lot. Like yeah, it's. that's the thing, man. Bryce Young is. growing. >> That's funny to think about like the.

respect the defense has for you is how. they're going to respond to that. Okay. >> If they think you would just give that. away like that that loud and that easy, they're like, "Oh, this guy, what a. dipshit." and then he can get work. If. that was somebody else who's like an. established I'm not saying uh Bryce. Young isn't going to become that guy, but if that is like Payton or Tom or. Drew even who just signed a deal to call. games for Fox, Drew Brees is going to be. in the booth alongside Adam Amin front. of the program. Good luck to him going. in there. We all assume that this is the. replacement by Fox for the situation.

that happened with Mark Sanchez in. Indianapolis. But the fact that Bryce. Young, you know, pulls it off at the. stage in which he's at, it's almost like. the perfect time for it because I don't. think the defense uh thinks something is. up immediately. Like if Pton's doing. that, everybody's like. >> huge. >> Yep. >> Payton, why would Payton, there's no way. he would be giving away that much. Bryce. might be a guy, huh? >> He might be. That's next level stuff in. that situation right there. It was. second and 10, tie ball game, less than. a minute. So like if you do throw a. pass, incomplete, now you got third and. long, and then you maybe give Jordan.

Love and those guys an opportunity. So. that's that's good ball right there. That's winning football right there. >> Hey, Carolina Panthers are good football. team. >> Good football team. Good football team. And Bryce Young, he although he did have. the lowest quarterback rating in the NFL. this past week, he still got the win, did enough, did what he had to do. Pulled him right there. They're running. it. They love Rico D. AB. I've talked to. guys in the building down there. >> Love Rico D. By the way, let me say. this, too. >> They're on their seventh offensive line. combination. They continue to get hurt.

and they continue to run for 150 yards. every day. >> I would love Rico, too. >> Who's that O line coach? AQ. Do you. know? >> Yeah, Harold Goodwin's my guy. He's been. He was my O line coach nine of my 12. years. >> Goody and Joey Gilbert down there. The. the operation. >> Big deal. >> Great vibes. >> Oh, yeah. >> Those dudes, great vibes. Incredible. vibes. Now, they've been coaching a long. time, especially in the offensive line. world. But yeah, that's an incredible. job. And I assume they're potentially. the ones that are telling you, "We love. Rico. This guy makes everybody's life a. lot better." Special culture. They're. potentially building. Speaking of a.

special culture, number two performing. offensive line of week nine. >> Yeah, the Buffalo Bills. And they were. the most physical team in this game. It. wasn't even close. Whenever you line up. against the Kansas City Chiefs, you got. to beat them up physically. They got. guys across that can be bullies like. Chris Jones. They took it to him. But. this is their bread and butter play. And. let me tell you, Jackson Haw, their new. tight end, and Reggie Gilliam, every bit. as important to this offensive line. They love this play. Send the tight end. back, get the fullback up, get the seal. by everybody else on the offensive line. Skinny through there. Unbelievable job.

>> It's first and 10 in the second quarter. there. Got a couple blockers leading the. way. James Cook hooking for the Buffalo. Bills. I like the physicality of this. team. I like that they will fight you. You know, like the Buffalo Bills. defense, what they did to Patrick. Mahomes and then offensive line-wise, we. talked about Deion Dawkins. They will. they're going to have to, I think. >> Oh, they're physical. Dawkins is. unbelievable. David Edwards incredible. Former Super Bowl winner with the LA. Rams. McGovern's incredible at center. I. mean, obviously Spencer Brown's an. absolute psychopath. He self-described. I think we saw that a couple weeks ago, but their tight end and fullback are.

awesome. I mean, they got a really good. team and other on the other side of the. ball, their defensive line's playing. really well, too. They got a. >> they got their one of their guys back. I. don't know how you pronounce his name. H. O E C HT is height. Height. Okay. So, he. tears his Achilles in his first game. back, which big loss for them cuz he was. he was bringing some juice. >> Yeah, the Buffalo Beals back in it. You. know, Buff is six and two right now. Second in the AFC East behind the. Patriots who are seven and two. They've. already had their bye-week. How will. they finish? And wow, >> this is a massive one.

>> The number one offensive line in week. nine, the Chicago Bears. Congrats to the. Bears. >> Wow. >> I guess highscoring affair. The Bears. offensive line had to be great. >> If you turn on their film, there is. bodies on the floor on every single. play. And I love, you got to give Ryan. Ples a lot of credit. He went out and. made some crazy moves this offseason. We're going to really bring in a bunch. of new offensive linemen. And it has. paid off. If you watch this, check out. this. By the way, their left tackle,

Braxton Jones, starts the season, he. gets injured. They put this guy in this. Canadian who was on the practice squad, Theo Benedict. You want to talk about a. block? Let's watch this dude climb on. the safety, run his ass to the [ __ ]. sideline, bury him into the [ __ ]. illegal. >> How good is that, AJ? >> That's actually pretty That's pretty. awesome. I can't lie. >> Okay, so that's the left tackle. >> I don't want to be that defender, but. that's great. AJ. So that's a left. tackle and I think the boys in the back. got another clip of Darnell right. Let's. take a look at this. Here he is to our. left playing right tackle against Shamar.

Stewart the first round pick. Take his. ass and bury him on the other side. >> Jeez Louise. The Bears are burying these. Bengals bodies deep into the. dirt. >> That's it. >> I thought I was trying to think of. another B- word, but they're for real, huh? The Monsters of the Midway are. actually the monsters of the Midway. >> Who does that remind you of? That's the. Detroit Lions offensive line just. beating you up. That's what Ben. Johnson's bringing to this team. >> Wow. Ben Johnson's culture settling in. everywhere. Yeah. So, you're saying that. the offensive line for the Chicago Bears.

going to be good for the rest of the. year? >> They're healthy. Dolman, the new center. Unbelievable. The two tackles are. playing great. They got Jonah Jackson at. right. And obviously Tony's an absolute. monster. I mean, they look really good. >> Chicago Bears are the real deal. Ty. Good luck, Bob. >> Well, and Rucker's legend Kyle Manunga. getting his first start and running for. 170 yards, too. I mean, I've been saying. it all year. You hear everything from. Ben Johnson. Don't love it. You watch. them play. Don't love it. But we we'll. see. You know, I mean, you can't play. the Bengals every week. >> Jeez.

Bengals are in an interesting spot. >> They really are. >> They didn't trade Trey. >> They didn't trade. No, they didn't. They. didn't do anything. >> They didn't do anything. Bangles said. we're sticking with our guys. >> Yeah, we like our guys. >> Let's go ahead and try to get this thing. figured out. What an interesting time. for them. And what an interesting time. for the Chicago Bears. They have the. number one offensive line in the. trenches with AQ Shipley as the Niners, Rams, Panthers, and the Buffalo Beals. are the rest of the top five. Congrats. to you, boys. Way to go. Way to battle. If your offensive line's good, your. team's good. So, that's what we've.

learned from this particular segment. So, whenever you see the Carolina. Panthers show up at three, it's like. Carolina Panthers, it's good football. >> It's a good football team this week. >> No, it's a good football team. >> It's every week. >> You're right. It is week to week. >> It's week to week. Connor Connor maybe. thought you forgot about a team. Maybe. they couldn't run it. They didn't run it. very well. >> Yeah, definitely not the Patriots. They. [ __ ] stink at blocking right now. They've given up they've given up like. eight sacks and or I don't know maybe 11. sacks actually the last two weeks. >> They're close though. They are close.

>> All right, let's get to some uh deeper. ball in the defensive back world. Let's. go secondary eyes through the eyes of. everything DB. Good D, bad D with Darius. J. Butler. >> Yes, sir. Sure. I talked about it on the. offensive side. I think they won kind of. the trade deadline getting Sam Dardo and. Kubak another weapon with Rasheed. Shahed. And we know what this defense. has been under Mike McDonald. Now you. get in third and 17. That opens up the. full playbook for what we love some. exotics here, some overload bliss. So if.

you run it back to the beginning before. the motion, the defense does a great job. disguising here, maybe showing some type. of single high. If you see the safety up. top, I believe his last name is Okata. Is that how you pronounce it? Okata. You'll see him up top look has his hips. open like he's going to rotate to the. middle of the field and then post snap. that Witherspoon the corner up there to. the boundary you'll see him blitz along. with some other guys and they'll drop. out and this will be a fiveman pressure. kind of umbrella fire zone so he begins. to be the flat defender continues to. sink watching the quarterback and goes.

up climbs the ladder high points his. ball and makes a phenomenal interception. on the sideline got both feet in just an. unbelievable play but it started with. the disguise and then postnap execution. getting pressure in Jaden Daniel's face. and then going up there and finishing. the play. So if you watch it from here. the blitz here you see that blitz show. left timed it up perfectly got the gap. free hitter on the quarterback can't. step into the throw kind of sails on. them and you go up and climb and catch. the ones they throw to you. >> Is that exactly how you want it to work.

out when you draw that up? >> Absolutely. and you you already know, you know, it's it's third in the bus. ride. So, it's not too many plays that. the offense, you know, has dialed up, but for defense on the flip side, you. can do anything. So, this is this is. where you want to feast. This is where. you want to draw up and run the uh. exotics, as we call them. Just great. execution from the front end all the way. to the back end. So, it lets you know. some great coaching going on. >> Seahawks are a great football team. >> A great football team. All right, that's. some good D. Do we have some more? >> Let's get to the next one. We had him. kind of pop in on the show behind AllP.

Pro. Young boy Maxwell Haristston made. his debut. Got his first interception. against Patrick Mahomes. Talked about it. yesterday. Patrick Mahomes had his. lowest completion percentage in his. career against this Buffalo Bills. defense. Just a great job here. Once. again, another fiveman pressure. Fire. zone. Deepest is deepest. You're that. cover three defender. You just get back, keep running, cue the quarterback, and. then go up and high point the ball once. again. And then it starts once again. with pressure in the quarterback's face. Offseason acquisition. Joey Bosa getting.

pressure in Patrick Mahomes face. Can't. step into the throw and make the one he. wants. Worthy. Great job eyeing the. ball, going up and getting it and. finishing a play, picking it off from. the rookie Harist. >> They were just super physical. Is that. what it was? Just like on the offensive. side. I mean the Buffalo Bills offensive. line on in the trenches. The Buffalo. Bills defense on everything DB good D. because of how physical they are and. obviously making plays here. But were. they just clearly the more physical. team? >> Yes. And that's the mindset every week. in NFL. You want to set the tone. You. want to be the more physical team, especially when it's two teams that, you.

know, they're very familiar with each. other. They're they know they're. probably going to see each other again. in the playoffs. So, you want to kind of. set that tone uh early in the season so. that when you see them later, you know. what's going to come. But you had some. young and they also, I think, lead the. league in disguise defenses and they. have some moving parts on the back end. >> Se uh Buffalo. >> Yeah, Buffalo. They So, they disguise a. lot of their coverages. Now, they can be. some holes and they can be uh. susceptible to some things, but they. played very well. And you never see. Patrick Mahomes under like he was like. 15 for 34, I believe. You never see that.

stat. >> I think I went back to Texas Tech. He he. that was the first time since he was in. college, I think he was under 50%. >> and he came into this game where, you. know, was he the favorite in MVP? Like. he shortest odds. So, it was it was a. great performance by that Buffalo Bills. defense. Uh, another great performance. This, uh, Jacksonville Jaguars defense, second in the NFL with interceptions. But I want you to watch the bottom of. the screen. Cover two, flat defender. You got the tight end motioning out. So, he's going to widen him and try to run. this quick hitch route. Great job.

getting his width, staying down in that. cobra-like demeanor. Eyes back to Gino. Smith and then making a great break on. the ball. This was a lowscoring game, so. all of these turnovers, these. interceptions matters. Great job by the. DB getting the ball, finishing the. catch. Once again, unbelievable play. >> Yeah, Gino Smith, you know, tough with. the Raiders. Obviously, this game goes. to overtime, so every turnover, every. play matters. The Raiders decide to go. for two for the good of ball, but. Jacksonville seemingly like good. football team, too, like like.

>> finding ways to win close games. >> Yeah. And well, their defense has they. have they been good all year? So, the. numbers, they aren't great numbers wise, but like splash plays, havoc plays, like. kind of how the Steelers were early on. They're getting wins, just creating a. bunch of turnovers. And last season, they were bottom of the league and. creating turnovers. So, up until this. point, second only behind the Chicago. Bears when it comes to intercepting the. ball. >> Okay, now it's time for some bad days. [singing]. >> Bad old days. >> And unfortunately, we got to start down. in Miami. Lamar Jackson, he returned and.

Mark Andrews was eating. Now we got Mark. Andrews down here. He'll be circle and. he's going to run, if you pause it here, what's called like a mesh route. So you. got two crossers. You got him coming. from the right side and you have Isaiah. likely kind of in a similar position on. the opposite side of the formation. And. they're basically going to try to run. their defenders into each other. Now, usually one guy should be high, one guy. should be low. But Mark Andrews does a. great job here of faking the pick and. then just climbing and the the defender. on him. If you run it back again, just.

watch. So our technique here, pause it. right here. So you're coached up to. tailpipe right here. That's what we call. >> getting the tail pipe. Get in the tail. pipe, debut. Ex. >> So actually, go ahead, explain it, AJ. with the tailpipe technique. >> I don't want I don't But you see getting. the tail pipe. Exactly what we mean. >> You guys tail pipes. So just tell us. what that means. >> You get right up into his tailpipe. So. then you cannot get picked and you're. directly behind him. So if he runs into. something like you're using his body as. protection, you're sticking right on. him. And then when you clear the pick, you can hopefully undercut him and maybe. get a pick or, you know, PB you.

>> Okay. So the tailpipe is uh you're on. the bumper there. Yeah, you're on the. bumper there. >> Exly directly behind him. If you're. inside of a mall, you're getting picked. >> You hit somebody. I hit somebody here. >> Exactly. Directly behind. But right I. mean right before contact. If you run it. back one more time from this wide copy. You can probably see it from the replay. as well. Mark Andrews kind of takes like. a little stab with his left foot and. then immediately climbs. And I think. this was designed because you had a free. hitter. You had a free hitter in the. pocket right up in Lamar Jackson face. But Jackson continues to kind of sink.

back and they just make an accurate. throw on his back foot. But great play. design, great execution from Lamar. Jackson and Mark Andrews there. >> So much chaos right there. So much trust. out of Mark Andrews, too. Yeah, >> cuz he's just running looking back. There's another guy right in front of. him that he could obviously get clipped. It's just insanity whenever it all times. up perfectly. And Gumpy, let's talk. about the Dolphins defense here. The. boys are taking care of each other. The. Ravens don't even have to do anything. >> Yeah, it was a rough night for Dante. Trader. He's a fifthrounder rookie out. of Maryland. He's been very good all. year though. This was just an off night.

He's also a very good lacrosse player, too. >> Wow. >> He's He's actually a dog. He's been one. of our best secondary players all year. >> Okay. We like him. Moments. You're going. to have these. >> for sure. Learning moment for sure. And. Puka Nico, welcome back. You'll see him. One of the things about 12 is hard to. double him or even scheme on how you're. going to take him out of the game. because you never know at the snap of. the ball where he's going to be. Pause. it right here. So, he's kind of like an. offset fullback right now when the ball. is snapped. Stafford's going to do a. good job play action and then this is. just an absolute dot. I think it's.

pretty good coverage down the field. You. can't ask for much better coverage, but. you couldn't run down there and place. this ball between the one and the two. better than Matt Stafford did here from. the pocket. It's just unbelievable. accuracy, timing, and trust from Matt. [laughter] Stafford and puking the cool. So, I wouldn't even This isn't. technically bad defense, but I just had. to show Big O some love for being back. out there and showing back up. Yeah. And. obviously hitting the pylon counts as a. body part, I do believe. So that's two. uh contact. Stafford's been doing this.

for so long. AJ, >> I know. And look at the time he has, too. Credit to this O line because this. is kind of a, you know, late developing. route downfield like this. But man, you. couldn't throw this any better. This is. beautiful. >> How many times you play against. Stafford? A lot. >> A bunch. Yeah. He came in the league in. what, 08 or 09? >> 09. >> I mean, I don't know. Probably six, six, seven years. Twice a year. >> So good. >> Damn. and he he was, you know, he was. the number the clear-cut number one pick. for a reason. And uh something that uh. Calvin Johnson Megatron said earlier is. like, you know, it's not just fast. balls. You can see that the game is.

slowed down a ton from he's seen. defenses change a bunch. You've seen him. do it with different offenses, but he's. just un his arm talent like he can make. every throw. You see the look off throws. every other week. Like he he's playing. quarterback at a high high level right. now. >> So not necessarily bad D just Grado, but. figure it out D. Now, do we have another. bad D? >> Now, that was great, though. And and. good D, but this is this is as bad as it. gets. 41. >> Oh, is this Hall of Fame now? >> 42, right? This this is a Hoffn.

>> Wow. [screaming]. >> Wow. Bad D. Hoffn. >> I mean, anytime you got 83 points with. 25 seconds left on the clock, was a bad. deal on both ends. But this is tough. Uh, I don't I don't know what the. Bengals what the plan was here. coveragewise like because you're just. it's 25 seconds left in the game. You. don't want to give that team the. opportunity get an easy catch and get in. the field goal range and set up for a. game with a field goal. But they just. say, you know what, [ __ ] it. We'll just. let the guys score right here. Now, we. see this week in and week out. You got.

to wrap these guys up. Like, I don't. care how long you play. You can't tackle. anybody in the National Football League. with just a shoulder bump. You have to. tackle these guys. You got to wrap him. up. So for him to catch this ball and. have two safeties right here with the. opportunity to get him on the ground, >> man. I didn't even think about it. Are. they playing no Moss here? Th. >> No, this Are you sure? >> Get the ball back to Joe Flacker. >> 83 points. Let's make sure we get the. ball back. Is this is this no Moss? This. is this is usually a situation in. defenses that I've been on where you're.

going to play you're going to play if. you go back to the wide wide copy you're. going to play some type of sticky. coverage maybe even bring some pressure. but you don't want to give up easy. >> It looks like they're playing no moss. >> It it looks terrible. >> It looks like they're playing no moss. >> It looks terrible. But I mean hell of a. play by Cen Lovelin the rookie making a. big the biggest play of his career so. far. And and great job by the Bears. sneaking out of there with a win. And. congrats to Coulson Loveland and all the. good videos of him coming out after he. scores a touchdown. You know, it's nice. reminder like, hey, this dude's awesome.

He is. >> Were they putting some bad videos on it? >> Well, just when Tyler Warren was doing. his thing, course all anybody was saying. was remember this was the second draft. of I even said it a couple times because. like we we're going to probably take a. tight end and it's like it was chosen. for us to take Tyler Warren. It's like. this guy's the best player in football. So, there's been a lot of that. They'll. probably be compared to each other for. I like that picture right there. But. they'll be compared to each other for. for a long long time. But Lovelin Love. is a talented very talented kid.

>> Oh, is that putting his mouthpiece in? >> Oh, the ref looks super cool. >> Got specs on. >> Yeah, the refs the refs are incredible. We need to make sure that we get players. um we need to get players uh into that. refing thing. We need to make sure we. get back into that. Now, I don't think. the refs were asked this past weekend as. maybe a weekend before that, but I'm. certain we could find some cases. They. just need to not be the story ever. And. uh that's going to be tough, especially. whenever humans are involved. >> We appreciate the hell out of you, Debb.

>> You too, Aush. >> Thank you, boys. Great time. Thank you. >> Great to see you, man. >> Great to see you guys. >> AQ looks good, doesn't he? >> Oh, yeah. >> AJ, he's getting a little conscious. He's getting a little. >> body. He looks great. But AQ, I ran into. a guy who said he is a uh what do you. call it like wingmaker? What's what's. your thing where you do in Arizona for. the golf tournament? The big charity. deal. >> Thunderbird. >> Thunderbird. He's a Thunderbird with. you. >> I forget his name, but yes, he was he's. one of. >> that helps a lot. >> Memorable guy. >> Michael Phelps. >> Yeah, I forget. No, it wasn't Michael.

Phelps. >> Did you call him a wing maker? >> I didn't know. I forgot the term of what. they called that thing. >> A Thunderbird, but in your head it was. wing maker. So, I guess bird maker. I. knew I probably wasn't right, but I. thought that would jog his memory to. what I was speaking of. >> And we got there. We got there. immediately. But just the fact that your. brain remembered it as wind maker. I. don't. >> wing. Wing. W I N G. Wing maker. >> What is the term? What is the real term? >> Thunderbird. >> I was I mean Thunderbirds. Wing. W I N G.

like a wing of a bird. That was close. That's what I'm saying. Yeah, that is my. exact point. The fact that your brain. remembered it as wing maker and it's. Thunderbird is a beautiful depiction of. how that thing works up there. You. Thunderbird save the city though. Thank. you for your service to Arizona. >> We donated over $20 million back to. Phoenix this year. >> Thank you in one year. >> One year. >> Speaking of wings, how big were those. wings on a Heavenly Hulk? I hate that I. wasn't able to be here to I had so many. questions. >> So good. >> Those things are platinum, brother.

>> So many. How on TV? How how are they a. real real. >> They're 22 in apparently 22 in for his. 22 in biceps obviously. >> Yeah. And we looked up the average bon. uh p biceps pythons and boy those 22 23. in pythons were gigantic for the time. >> About two times the size of the average. human you know the untrained male if you. will. >> Did you expect Heavenly Hulkster to kind. of be the breaking news guy for heaven. just as a whole? like all the names that.

every. >> stories I mean just tossing it back and. forth with Jackie Robinson that that was. you know awesome number one obviously um. I honestly I was surprised to see him. with the wings you know and the halo I I. thought that took more time but you know. was it St. Pete St. Peter's big time. maniac, I guess. >> Yeah. I mean, I guess I'm not shocked, but [clears throat] yeah, that was that. was uh that was awesome to watch. >> He even predicted the game. That was the. coolest part for me. Like, I was. watching the baseball game and I was. like, well, >> I know Will Smith like why are we even.

watching this? We already know. >> World Series winning home run, Will. Smith, just like Heavenly Hulkster said. I mean, it was. >> pretty good. >> Honestly, there's a chance Heavenly. Hulkster. >> You might see him again. I don't know. You [laughter] know, >> feels like we might have threaded the. needle here to find out. >> to kind of figure this whole thing out. What a run. I did see Real American Beer. commented underneath and was like, "Hell. yeah, bro.". >> Yeah, exactly. [laughter]. >> Exactly. He is. He made it. All right, let's get the hell out of here. What a. day. It's a nice Wednesday. >> Yeah, it.

>> was a great Wednesday though. >> It's like hot. Is it Is it hot there? >> It's warm. >> Is it? I don't know. >> Unseasonably warm. It's warm. Good. >> High 50s, I think. >> Yeah. 60. >> Beautiful. >> 64. >> Boom. >> That's beautiful. >> Oh, so we got to sit outside right now. probably. >> Boom. T-Bo. maybe be careful. You. >> say T-Bo. >> There are a lot of bugs in there. >> I thought I figured there might be. >> There's actually a wasp in uh. >> Oh, yeah. That's right. >> Somebody got stung by a wasp. I had no. idea that still happened in November.

Ain't that crazy? >> Yeah, >> that's still taking place. Did you know. those exist still? >> I did not. I thought Yeah. When do they. usually die off or take on? Get out of. here. >> No way. November they still survive. I. had no idea. Yeah, I seen one yesterday. and then that some [ __ ] came back and. did a sneak attack on somebody and all. of a sudden, oh my gosh, what was that? Stung in the finger. >> Wasp. Or was it a wasp? >> Wasp. Yeah. >> Is there a wasp nest in there? >> Spray that sucker. >> No, I think this is just a solo act. Solo. >> Yeah, I think the wasp is all by itself. >> Hopefully. >> Yeah, >> the nest is in the walls most likely. >> Yeah, usually.

>> Most worker and male wasps, they die in. the fall as temperatures drop. But the. queen wasps, well, they survive the. winter by hibernating and starting new. colonies in spring. Wasp also die from. old age. You know, these [ __ ] live to. 12 to 22 days. >> What a waste of a life. >> That's it. No, it's a worker wasp. >> I guess it's two different without cuz. the worker wasp is the dog of the wasps. >> Plus, how long is a day in wasp years? >> Yeah, it's a good point. >> Question. >> Starvation, predation, or environmental hazards like.

pesticide. I'll tell you what, the. pesticides really flipped all these. [ __ ] on their head. You think they. tell each other like, "Hey, you got to. watch this [ __ ]. >> Go over there.". >> Do you think like what do you think? >> Yeah. >> Yeah, definitely. >> I don't think so. Natural selection. >> Really? How about birds? Don't you think. birds have gotten dumber? >> Well, >> what's that? >> I I know. I mean, I'd assume con man is. still on the bird train. >> Technology has only gotten better, so I. assume birds have only gotten smarter. >> Saw a lot of birds on, you know,

telephone poles and wires on my drive. home yesterday. An unruly amount. so. much I almost got out of my car and took. a photo. >> charging up. >> I don't know. >> You think they're all strapped in? >> I mean, I'm not kidding. There was like. 2,000 birds within a half mile. >> You think there was a surge, a power. surge? >> I just I just What's it about? I don't. know. >> You tell me. What are these birds? They're flocking, huh? The birds like to. flock. Is that what they like to do? Oh, that's that's convenient. That's. convenient. >> They all like to just stand on power.

cables. Fascinating. >> Man, you've been seeing them flying in. circles like together. It's crazy. >> Yeah, the birds. I'm just talking about. birds nose diving into cars. Remember? I. don't know if they did. They always used. to do that. I feel like. >> flying into my windows like all the. time. >> All the time. I'm like, how stupid are. these [ __ ] I know. >> It's got clean windows. Got clean. windows. >> Yeah, I guess. But also, I think maybe. even dirty windows these things will. fly. They say they got bird brains. You. know, that's obviously not a good thing, but shouldn't these things be talking to. each other? Like, hey, don't fly into.

houses. Don't fly into cars and stuff. cuz. >> we're talking high speeds. These things. are dead. I mean, they're hitting their. heads, breaking their breaking their. necks, exploding their skulls, and then. falling, you know, >> blood everywhere. >> Maybe it's on purpose. Maybe they want. to they want to end it. They don't want. to get eaten by a bigger bird, maybe. >> Well, then maybe they need a little. therapy bird somewhere to get out there. and have them chirping a different tune. >> Legit, >> you know, we need them to kind of figure. it out cuz. >> big bird. >> I don't like having to explain, Mackenzie, this bird. Yeah. Just was not. supposed to fly into this thing. It It's. dead. >> Yeah. >> Oh, didn't the owl just fly into.

Shotti's house? He did say that. Yeah, I. saw them. >> He's staying staying in the condo. He. said, >> "Hey, staircase, bro. Staircase.". >> Yeah. Owls are mean sons of [ __ ] You. cannot things in your house. >> You remember the staircase? >> That was his defense, right? >> Yeah. >> Yeah. And it I'll tell you what, >> that guy had he led a he led a colorful. life if you find in that documentary. >> Yes, you do. We had the uh we had the. lawyer on. >> Yeah. Mhm. >> Oh, yeah. >> Do you remember this? >> No. Who we talking? >> Have you ever seen The Staircase? >> No. guy in North Carolina wife ends up.

dead in his house. He's the only one. there. Obviously, he gets accused of it. There's a lot of shenanigans. A lot of. shenanigans in this entire thing. It's. crime, Doc. Inevitably, his defense was. that an owl flew in, grabbed her by her. skull. >> and she tripped down a staircase and. died. >> That was his defense. >> And it was a lawyer. Did he defend? I. mean, >> the lawyers defended him. Yeah. said. this he he was the one he was the one. telling the entire story about how this. was possible cuz these owls are [ __ ].

aggressive. >> Yeah, >> skulls. >> I think so. Yeah, if my my memory serves. me accurately grabbed her hair skull and. then she tripped down staircase because. of it or something. >> Wow. I'm going to watch this on the. flight home. >> Hell of a story. >> I think it's like three or four part. series. >> Mhm. >> Yeah, it it was during the Tiger King. had a run, then this had a run, then a. staircase had a run. It was like one of. those. >> takes a few turns AQ that you might not. be expecting. >> Perfect. Can't wait, but I need Is he. free? I don't want to spoil it.

>> No, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. >> Can't spoil it. Can't spoil it. >> All right. >> Just know that the lawyer that is. representing him is the star of the. show. >> He's pretty good. >> And he came with a program. >> Hell yeah. Oh, yeah. Reached out. What's. his name? >> That's the HBO version. They made They. made a show out of it on. >> That's a scripted one. Oh, okay. >> Yeah. So, that's like the TV show. They're talking about the documentary on. Netflix, I believe. Yeah, Netflix. But. yeah, this this thing did two different. shows. That's when you know. >> That's when you know it's a good story. And these owls these things watch your. [ __ ]. >> If you hear a.

>> Yeah. Dead. >> They take animals, too. >> It's not a who, it's a what? >> What's that? >> They take animals, too. >> They always say, "Hey, make sure your. cats are locked up. Don't let them out. back or they're going to just disappear. from an owl.". >> Cuz they'll come down. It's just see you. later. >> They do. They do a little owl talking. >> Their heads do like full turn all the. way. >> You way they blink is weird. You learn a. lot about Alice. >> 300 degrees, I believe. >> Almost all the way. Like these PTZs get. caught right at the end. [clears throat]. >> All right. >> Wow.

>> Pretty good show today. Staircase is. worth it. >> It is. >> I'm on it. >> Yeah. I'm watching it today, too. >> What is the lawyer's name? David. >> David Rudolph. >> There it is. David Rudolph. What year. was that? >> That had to have been, >> man. Was that before CO? That might have. been before. >> I think it was before. >> They were everywhere. Cameras were everywhere and all the. meetings he was having in the jail. Like. every like cameras were allowed. everywhere. >> Hey, David Rudolph. Pretty good juice. We remembered your name since 2019. That's pretty good little.

>> long time. >> He he you wait till you watch it. You'll. be like, "Yeah, this guy is the guy. He's the guy. If I ever have anything, this is the guy. I would like to call. this guy.". >> Okay. >> He's smooth talker. This guy, he's got. ideas, but also a lot of personality, a. lot of charisma, a lot of, you know, a. lot of that stuff. >> It's what you need in the store. Hey. kid, you want to try to throw a football. into a hoop or what? >> Sure. >> You know, Penn State doesn't have a head. coach yet. >> But maybe if you make this football into. a hoop, they'll hire a coach and 25.

random people will win $500. >> Boom. >> AQ, all you got to do is do better than. you've done over the last few weeks and. you just got to put this ball, Baby Duke. 2 Dup.0 into that hoop right over there. Now, there's steel net, you know, obviously chain link net out there. So, if it goes through, it's going to sound. cool, but maybe you should try to put a. little bit of Oracle on this one. You've. been kind of attacking it. Todd, do you. have anything to say to AQ before he. attempts the impossible? >> I do. Stop messing around, AQ. Put this. thing in the bucket and then, you know, celebrate as Billy Napier is named the. new head coach of Penn State.

>> That's possible. I mean, who knows right. now with the coaching options that are. out there. Debut has some words of. encouragement for you, AQ. >> Just step into it. Let it rip. You saw. Jacob Brassette do it. Just do exactly. what Jacobe did. >> AJ Hawk said, "You know what, AQ? Maybe. you do look like Jacobe Verette. Maybe. you are able to make it. And his final. note to you before you attempt the. impossible. AQ is this. >> Yeah. AQ. I think you remember isn't it. AQ who does very well when he gets a. snap and he kind of takes a drop like. not when you're static. You need to be. moving because you're an athlete. We. know that. We used to drop step dunk on.

old buddy. Whatever his name was back in. high school. >> He didn't dunk on hard time. [laughter]. >> He did not. dunk on his fa. boned and big big bellied. Oh, >> and big. >> that too. >> He's like Chuck. Oh, here we go. 25. people, $500. All got to do is m. >> give a cadence to him. >> Yes. >> Oh, no cadence. Silent count. Short drop. back. Pocket's going to collapse for. sure. Misses the back board. Bonus ball. Bonus ball. Bonus. >> Oh, >> ball's gone.

>> Floor is lava. There's more balls here. >> Don't die. Don't die. >> Okay. >> You didn't have You don't have the. runners on. Ladies and gentlemen, AQ. Shipley, a Super Bowl champion player. coach for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, formerly of the Arizona Cardinals as. well, the Indianapolis Colts, the. Baltimore Ravens, the Pittsburgh. Steelers, and the Philadelphia Eagles. will attempt the impossible as Boston. Connor gives him a message of. positivity. >> Remember when you would make your shots. with the basketball, you would just pick. the ball up and throw it, but every time. you lined it up, it would be the worst. [ __ ] shot imaginable. Just Yeah. Just.

lean back and [ __ ] spin that thing. Now, now that you're thinking about not. thinking about it, why don't we think. about making that shot? 25 people, $500. and maybe a hiring at Penn State for the. good of the people. >> Fade away. Want a little sauce on that? >> That was close. >> That was good. Good distance. >> Hey, you're in Sauc City. Add a little. sauce. >> Awesome sauce. >> What's that, Debb? You think he's trying. to miss? >> I don't know. That wasn't That wasn't. even close. I mean, you're giving away a. lot of money on the weekends. >> Okay. See, this is what we need.

integrity in the games. >> I'm trying. Well, you've already got a. little controversy brewing with you. ball. >> Sure. >> Okay. Maybe people mailing it in when. they have certain teammates so they. don't get the team with the person. [laughter]. >> Yeah, that's who's doing that. >> I'm not saying as we all saw it. We. don't like it. This can't become what it. is. Guy throwing it through the. backboard. It's like you're not even. trying to make it. You're not. We know. you're not even. >> You got to lift your teammate up. You. got to lift him up. >> And then accidentally not jumping to. tip. Oh, missed it. Can't have it. Not. you ball. We'll sort that out. Just like.

Dana White said, we're going to the FBI. >> Yep. >> Did you see his answer, his response, AJ? >> Oh, yeah. >> He was he was trying to set the hey, enough with this [ __ ] This cannot. become what we are cuz he understands as. a man who is running the the sports. league. Anytime integrity is questioned. to sports league, you potentially lose. sports league. Okay. Completely. Like if. people don't think it's fair. competition, people don't aren't let let. alone the gambling side of it. Okay, that's a whole another animal. But.

whenever fans and people on teams, everything, it's just like you you. potentially lose everything. And as soon. as Dana hears about this and this. becomes a big story line, I appreciate. him saying that they were told there. were some abnormal betting patterns on. this one particular fight by IC3, which. is their independent consultant for. gambling. Tracking bets that he employs. for the UFC to track to make sure there. isn't any [ __ ] basically is what he. said. So then he calls and says to the. camp like, "Hey, we're hearing about. this. what's going on. Fighter says, "Nope, we're not doing any of that. I I.

can't wait to win." Then first round. loss, rear naked choke with the way it. looks. Dana says he calls the FBI. immediately and says, "Hey, we were told. that this was potentially a thing. We. reached out. We talked to him." They. said, "Absolutely not. We told them we. heard about it. This happens. We think. you should look into it." And then he. say, "Talk to Cash." And then an entire. fleet of FBI people were in his office. chatting about it. So Dana White is. coming out very loudly about like, "Hey, this [ __ ] is not happening here. And. if you want to roll the dice, there's a. chance like actual jail time, hard time.

This is going to ruin your life. So, I. think he's trying to play defense here. for future situations as well as settle. this particular one because he knows. what's uh at stake here, AJ. >> Well, yeah, you can't let it linger. Like, the longer you don't address or. you don't say much about it like people. just run with it, I think. And so the. fact that he's trying to jump in, get. ahead of it, he he knows like that's one. of the only things I feel like that can. bring huge franchise like that down or. at least take huge losses if people. truly think this isn't legit. Like. they're not they're all manipulating. everything. >> Yeah. It's not a good vibe that could.

potentially be in there. So he's trying. to cut it off. Now people say, "Well, you like the game all the time." It's. different. >> Okay. And I know everybody like throws. that in there together. It's like got to. keep that separated. Has to be for the. good of sport. And I know it's easily. accessible now for the common person, but the people that are performing the. act just can't do it for a good of. everything. Literally can't happen. Literally can't happen. >> Can't happen. Feels like there's a. chance it happens. Which I'm starting to. worry about you both too. You got guys. throwing games. >> Kidding. >> Yeah. Well, the rat [ __ ] insider. I'm.

sure they'll leak it out. Who's doing. what? >> Is it the insider we hate or their rats? >> He'll probably have the information. wrong, too. >> What do you mean? Aren't they kind of. one and the same? >> Well, I definitely think that. >> Schultz and Chefy ain't the same, bro. >> Well, I think there's definitely levels. to insiderness and the Uball insider. seemingly has a monopoly on the entire. thing. >> He does. >> True. >> He's really the only insider. >> But is is he the problem or the person. that's giving him the information? That.

that's kind of the question. It's dog. chase tail here. You know, dog chase. >> Morgan Wall is the problem. >> still. >> Mhm. Oh, yeah. Still. >> still the problem. Tour tickets. available I think coming up very soon. Coming to Indianapolis two nights. >> They were they went on the two nights. Friday night went on sale today. Uh my. wife got in the queue. She was number. 230,000 in the queue to get uh tickets. for Friday night at Morgan Wall. I don't. think we're going to make it. >> Yeah. Sounds like you're going to have. to hope and a prayer that entire thing. there. But.

hope and a prayer is not what the. insider is operating off of in a new. bowl. He's going off. >> his facts. I do believe Tony, you said. that he's getting facts wrong. What do. you mean by that? Uh, I can't remember. what the report was. I think it was uh. that Bone left me for AQ to join the. Fatso's team or whatever. Uh, I was. never partners with Bone. I was partners. with AQ. So, actually AQ uh was the. backstabber in this situation. >> Way to. >> I don't know why you threw Fatso in. It. doesn't say that in the tweet at all. [laughter].

>> I didn't come up with a team name. You. guys did. >> Look at the graphic. >> That looks pretty official. >> Yeah. And AQ's in there. AQ, you're part. of the profit, bro. real story. >> That's pretty good technique right. there. You see that behind the line? >> The foot looks like it's on the line. >> No, it's behind. >> He's got those shoes. >> All right, you guys play together. I. found a different partner. A better. partner. >> Yeah, exactly. What? So, you were. frustrated. Okay, so insider [laughter]. got it right again. All right, why don't. you come out here, Tone? Why don't you. come out here, Tone? I didn't like the. thought of people trying to lose so they. didn't have to team up with somebody. again. I'll tell you what, yesterday.

Foxy and I had another day of Foxy and I. Ball and uh there was a team of Debbut. and Tone that were together. I'll tell. you what, that that sparked a little. something in us knowing that we could. maybe lose the title of these boys. >> 100%. We had to lock in. It ended up. being the shortest game in Uball. history, which goes to both teams. because a lot of shots were made there. >> That's right. >> Three and a half minutes, >> man. Four six in the first top of the. first. Foxy and. >> guys are on fire. You guys are on fire. >> Foxy fought through some adversity, too. >> Yeah, he pulled his calf, >> dude. Yeah. What the hell was that?

>> Foxy pulled his calf. >> My cramp or my calf started cramping up. in the middle of the game. >> Yeah, he almost had an Achilles here in. Uball. That's a real deal. The insider. would have got numbers if that were if. he would have been reporting that. Uh. Bruce, they're kind of questioning. everything about what you do for you. ball, brother. I don't like it at all. >> It's all right. You know, we'll just uh. keep our nose to the ground looking for. any stories. There was also a a close. call I've been waiting to update the. people on um where there was a a I guess. a vicious kick volley you would describe. that almost decapitated Ty Schmidt.

>> Yeah. And we will certainly have to get. that story out today. You can follow. along at Bruce Bryan, the official. insider for Uball. And there was one of. the funniest situations that I've ever. been a part of. And uh I'll tell you. what, people are getting after it. U. trying to win some games. And all we're. trying to do is celebrate the hell out. of sports. Be a friend, tell a friend. something nice. It might change your. life. We're in this thing together. AQ, anything to say here before we get out. of here? >> Full steam ahead in Arizona, boys. We. know our guy for the next couple of. weeks at least. Let's go. That's Arizona.

Cardinal superfan and color commentator. AQ Shipper talking about Jacobe. Brassette being the starting quarterback. for [laughter] the Arizona Cardinals who. are currently two and seven, three and. six, something like that. >> Three and six. Let's go. >> Three and six. But have it all in front. of them just like everybody does. Let's. never forget that everything's always in. front of us because it has to be. Team. on me, team on three. 1 2 3. Goodbye.