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>> Hello beautiful people and welcome to. our humble abode the thunder on this. want Wednesday November 12th 20125 this. sports program begins right now. football. >> it is absolutely magical and we're so. incredibly thankful that we get a chance. to chat about it every single day and. there's some news that is popping up. around the football world that we will. certainly talk about both in college and. in the NFL. Yesterday, obviously, we had. the incredible honor of being down on. Paris Island for Veterans Day as all.

four of the main league's commissioners. uh dropped a note to the veterans. letting them know how much we appreciate. them. UFC President Dana White sent a. message of appreciation and gratitude to. our America's heroes. We also had the. Secretary of Veterans Affairs, Doug. Collins, who sent a message to the young. vets out there. And we also had the. Commanderin-Chief on the show live. I. believe it's the second time that a. sitting president has been live on an. ESPN show. The last one was uh from a. Democratic political party. Uh this one. obviously representing I guess the.

Republican political party, but in my. eyes he's the leader of the military and. we were celebrating the hell at a. Veterans Day. Now there are people who. are certainly uh not the most happy that. that happened. But what I would like to. say, every veteran military person I. talked to is very grateful and thankful. that we spotlighted the heroes of. America who walk amongst us who are. willing to sign a line and go for the. United States of America as opposed to. anything else. So if you're against what. happened yesterday, I'd like to say you. hate the troops and uh you should go. ahead and swallow that and you can take. that to where you want to go. and uh any.

president any any president okay willing. to come on our Veterans Day celebration. spotlight show commander-in-chief head. of military we would be very open to So, we would like to let any president know. going forward that if we are allotted. the opportunity to go to Paris Island. for the first time ever and have a live. show in front of actual Marines while. they're doing their thing. And if we're. going to celebrate uh Veterans Day and. we're going to have all four of the. commissioners, the heads of every single. league in the United States of America.

basically and also have the president of. the UFC global thing come on and the. sergeant major of the Marines if it. future presidents you always be welcome. >> Boom. >> Also was missed I did reach out to. President Obama's team. Okay, President. Obama's talked to multiple people in. President Obama's team wasn't able to. work because of the quick turnaround. We. started this thing on Monday because. there was a lot of conversations late. last week about this show getting. >> not going to be allowed. There were some. people in the government obviously I. found out about this very late that. said, "Wait, he's going to be allowed to. be on Paris Island? We're in the middle.

of a government shutdown. There's no. way. Is any other show allowed on a is. any other show allowed?" No. Well, why. the hell is this guy allowed? So, end of. last week, there was a lot of doubt, you. know, and I completely understood the. doubt. I thought it was crazy that it. was even going to potentially be. happening. Anyways, so once we got the. clear and the go-ahad and the stage was. built on Sunday on Paris Island in front. of that beautiful Euima statue, it was. an incredible thing. As soon as I found. out that it was real, then I started. piecing the show together because I had. no idea if I was just going to be. wasting my time doing it before then. So, everybody that responded within uh.

12-h hour period, I am so incredibly. grateful for and we are so lucky that we. got a chance to spotlight the greats who. walk among among us. And uh we. appreciate the hell out of the Marines. for the hospitality and uh you guys are. the greatest. What a day yesterday. >> Hell yeah. >> What a day yesterday. Got a lot of. people saying mean stuff to me. Got a. lot of people saying mean stuff to me. Yep. Got a lot of people that don't know. what a football looks like telling me. they're never watching my show again. And uh I would like to let you know. Good. [ __ ] you. Let's move on. OKAY. THE.

TOXIC table's here at Boston Connor and. at Tai Schmidt. A man who played in the. NFL for nine years. One of the biggest. football brains in the history of. football. Host of everything DB. Good D, bad D. Darius Jay brother. >> Cool day yesterday down there. >> Great day. Great day. Always love. supporting the vets. >> Yeah, it was a cool day down there. Sergeant Major, too. Getting a chance to. sit next to him. Uh, just feel and. radiate the machismo that he basically. has and has to have. And then the brand. new Marines that were sitting out there. You know, they only give yes, no. answers. >> It's only yes, no answers. I forgot. about that because they're in the middle.

of their uh Marine transition as we. speak at the end of their 13-week. recruit depot boot camp down there at. Paris Island. That was a fun interaction. with Oh, yeah. >> And they, I think, would say to their. family, uh, we oo with the. commander-in-chief. >> Yeah. >> Mhm. >> And we oo with the Sergeant- Major. >> People don't think about that, though. >> Pretty memorable Veterans Day for them. >> People hate troops. >> Yeah. Well, you know, >> people hate troops. 12-ear NFL vet. Super Bowl champion. Ladies and. gentlemen, AQ Shipley. >> Hey, don't you love the troops? We know.

that. >> Love the troops. Yesterday was awesome. Uncle's a former Marine. I mean, it was. awesome. I texted you during the show. That was one of the coolest things I've. watched. Did you give an urra or no TO. YOUR UNCLE? >> URA. >> THERE WE GO. >> That was a good one. Might have been. good. >> If we were to ask them if that was a. good one, uh, was that a good URA? They. would all say yes. >> Yes, sir. >> Whenever AJ did it, was that A GOOD ONE? NO, SIR. >> THEY SAID THAT WAS uh that was a. beautiful thing is and legit. I hope um. I hope the young vets saw that yesterday. and learned that the VA is ready. Like a.

the is a different VA than what it used. to be. So hopefully there's an uptick in. VA callers for younger vets especially. And I know the OG vets, too. I think. they're trying to make it all as, you. know, great as possible for the veterans. who it seems like everybody appreciates. on Earth. >> at this point, >> except for some people, but I heard. from. But it does feel like that is the. case. And hopefully yesterday we were. able to do that. Now, let's talk a. little bit about what's happening in the. sports world. We have big news today. Matthew and Brady Kachchuck will be. joining us. >> Nice. >> Okay. We have breaking announcement in. about 34 minutes or so. Huge breaking.

news in the hockey world. >> Let's go to the back. Uh Nikki Skates, Frank Moraldo. Uh two hockey players. coming on the program today. Good. This. is good for hockey. >> Who would have thought? Two hockey. players coming on. Dynamic. personalities, legacies, second. generation players, both of them. It's a. big day. >> Yeah, it is a big day. Making a big. announcement for the good of hockey, Nick. >> Absolutely. Look at this. We're growing. the game. People said it couldn't be. done. People said the NHL can't get out. of its own way. Look what's happening. now. >> Whoa. Whoa. We don't know yet. We don't. know yet. We We'll see for the big.

announcement if it comes together. We. have JJ Watt joining us and then. Stanford Steve will also join us because. last night the CFP College Football. Playoff Committee put together their. projected 12 team playoff as we sit at. this exact moment. At this exact moment. we HEAD OVER TO HAMMER.COM. AP TONE. What did the CFP committee say. with this newest bracket? >> So the CFP committee said that you know. everything from one to five will stay. the same. obviously Ohio State, Indiana&M, Bama, and Georgia. The first.

change was Texas Tech jumping Miss. because of their win at home against an. undefeated BYU team. So, that was the. first question that had to be answered. Was Texas Tech's win against BYU enough. to jump miss? And it was in the. committee's mind. Um, and then you go. down, Oregon moved up one, Notre Dame. moved up one. With BYU's loss, BYU. dropped out um down to 12 there. you see. them as one of the first teams out. behind Oklahoma. And then the big. surprise of the night was at number 11.

and I only say it's a surprise um. because Miami has a difficult difficult. path to the ACC championship. So this is. the bracket right here is just based off. of you know the committee's rankings and. they have Miami as the highest rated ACC. team now. So they slotted them in there. basically kind of as the ACC champion. But so everyone knows, Miami has a tough. road to get to the ACC championship. They are behind Georgia Tech, Pit, Virginia, Duke, SMU, and I believe.

Louisville as far as the ACC standings. are concerned. All those teams play each. others in a situation, but there is a. there is a path. But right there, I. thought Georgia Tech would be there. because they are at top of the ACC. standings, but u Miami was ranked. higher. So they're slotted there. does. not mean that they're going to be there. unless they get a uh at large uh bid. situation which I don't know if that's. going to happen or not. >> Yeah, that would piss off a lot of. people in the north and the south, but. certainly the people let's say for go to. the game would be pumped up about that. The ACC has one slot. Independent Notre.

Dame has one slot. Power five has one. slot. Now there's nine slots left. Is. this how you see it kind of forecasting. in the end with this many SEC, this many. Big 10 teams? >> Yeah, I do. I I thought that and then as. far as this weekend goes like. >> and the Big 12. Sorry, Texas Tech. Jesus, I love you guys. I hope you guys. win all actually. I hope we're in love a. lot more. >> There is there is a lot going on this. weekend when you look at Texas and. Georgia and then Oklahoma and Bama. Obviously, uh Texas and Oklahoma are. right there on the bubble. So, if you're.

one of the if you're that ACC team, if. you're a Big 12 team like BYU who's. barely on the outside, you are praying. this weekend that Texas and Oklahoma. lose because if Bama and Georgia lose, I. don't think they're going to drop out of. the playoffs and it's only going to make. the resumes of Oklahoma and Texas better. so they can then move up and take you're. looking at like if that happens, that's. five, six SEC teams, which no one is. going to be happy about unless you're in. in the SEC. So, if you're other schools.

and other conferences, you are hoping. that Bama and Georgia take care of. business this weekend. >> And if Pit beats Notre Dame this. weekend, open up another spot in the. playoffs. So, it's a there's a lot of. huge huge games this weekend. Whenever. you think about the College Football. Playoff and we're only a few weeks out, >> you know, we are right around the corner. from this college football playoff. starting. We're going to start with 12. >> We're going to count down to one. >> I hope they keep I hope they keep this. >> same song. >> commercial. >> They should. Maybe they should add a. little more boom booms to it. You know,

I think we all know like, hey, that. sounded like you guys just kind of. low-level AI song. Okay, let's add a. little boom booms to this thing, you. know? Let's get a little maybe a remix. in there. >> Same lyrics, though. >> Yes. >> Yes. Okay. >> Yeah. This is just like rock me like a. wagon. >> You just take those lyrics and you just. change who's singing it, you know? You. just kind of change who's singing and. that thing's going to be a hit out. there. >> You think Hoody's going to do it this. year? >> I wouldn't mind. There he's going. starting with 12 down. Yeah, he'd be. he'd be able to nail that. I think. there'd be a lot of people that would.

potentially want to do it. They might. have their own take on the lyrics. because there is some seemingly AI. generated lyrics that seem like this is. the easiest way to get to this. particular word. We could have maybe. done a little bit different, a little. bit more uh artistry in it. But we would. like to say the bones of that song, >> oh perfect all time. >> They're good. Yeah, they are a-ok. Okay, there that might be able to run. >> Yeah. for. >> in perpetuity. >> maybe till the end of college football. which we will never get to see. Thank. God for that. It's a huge weekend for. college ball. Also in the NFL, there's. some massive news. Let's go to the New.

York Giants, ladies and gentlemen. They. fire coach Dable. He's seen walking out. of his house wearing a Penn State. hoodie. >> Wait a minute. >> Penn State needs a head coach. Brian. Dball also has kids that are currently. at Penn State. >> What? >> He would be a massive splashy hire. He. has a lot of history of doing very good. things in football outside of what he. did for the New York Giants. But how. many people could say they did good with. the New York Giants is what a lot of. people would say if you're in Brian. Day's camp. Is this the next Penn State. Navy Lion head coach? Let's go to AQ.

Shipley. Penn Staterer Day named head. coach of Penn State would make you what? >> Very happy. >> Okay. Okay. So, this is the one we've. been kind of waiting for. We didn't know. who it was going to be. We didn't know. how it was going to come about. There's. more jobs seemingly than there is actual. names. Penn State's been sitting there. LSU obviously still wide open. We have. no idea who's going to take that job, but we think it's probably going to be. pretty significant name because LSU from. coach Sabin's eyes, five stars fall out. of trees in Louisiana. You can win in. Louisiana no matter what. Three uh head.

coaches, two of them had national. championships. Now it's four head. coaches, two of them had three of them. had national championship. So the. thought is LSU's good job. Florida we. assume will be a good job. Penn State. though in the North, great job for the. Big 10. And to kind of keep the boosters. happy potentially or the money happy or. the fan base happy, you have to make a. splashy hire. Day ball would certainly. be there, right? >> Yeah, I think so. And I think anytime. you get an opportunity to get a guy that. coached with Nick Sabin, with Bill Bich, offensive coordinator at Alabama, and.

obviously been a head coach, this is the. guy. Andy's an offensive genius. We. haven't had a good offense. 20 25, 30 years. We need a quarterback. We need. >> When were you there? Wow, we had a good. offense when I was there 20 20 years. ago. 20 years ago. >> Okay. Yeah. Say you kind of [ __ ] on. yourself as we look at it. Dave Ball. going to be a head coach in college. We. think he would do well. >> I think he'd be great. He's a He's an. offensive genius. He really is. And he. understands it. He coached in college. under Nick Sabin when they had a great. offense. So I think that then you take.

what he learned from Bill Bich. You take. what he learned from being a head coach. Splash higher, >> good offensive mind, and you just need. somebody to help you navigate the NIL. waters. kids are at Penn State. >> Yeah, one of his kids is I know one. definitely maybe two. >> Andy's wearing a hoodie. This is good. news. >> Yeah, I think he's potentially letting. him know, hey, I would be open. You. know, kids are down there. Wouldn't mind. heading up to State College. And I think. uh I got a chance to chat with him uh at. combine. I think he would represent Penn. State pretty good. Like I I I think he.

would be a good representation of what. they could potentially be as a team. You. know, he's very different than James. Franklin. Very different than James. Oh, yeah. He's a a bit more of a visible. optical dog than James Franklin, who I. think James Franklin is pretty put. together, which by the way, his name all. these jobs except for Penn State. You. know, you think like, hey, who's the top. coach out there? >> Mhm. >> Who's Penn State going to hire? Top. coach? Who is it? James Franklin. >> I don't know if they're going to hire. him back. I don't know if they're going. to hire him back, but it started to look. like that because there wasn't a lot of. names really for who was going to do it.

Dable getting fired from the Giants. seemingly opens a door for Penn State to. maybe make a move that everybody will. like up there. And I assume Pat Craft. and everybody that's making that. decision is like, "Hold the phone. We. got a guy who wants to be here like. very, very bad seemingly and has a big. name. That could be a home run for. them." Now, I'm not saying they need to. AQ's not saying that either. AQ is just. saying as a member of the Penn State. Colt, right? You're saying. >> that's right. >> I'd be pumped about that. >> I'd be real pumped. >> And he's not pumped about a lot of. things. >> True. They win the headlines for sure.

Call him an offensive genius. That's big. coming from UA. >> He is. I mean, he coached with New. England when they had Tom Brady. Obviously, what he did down there in. Alabama and won a national championship. as an OC, then a head coach, >> took the New York skipping Josh Allen. out. >> Yeah, exactly. >> So, Buffalo, obviously Buffalo, Josh. Allen. >> This guy's going to be your coach. You. need to know at least. >> I know. I know all this stuff, but I'm. just going I'm I'm skipping ahead to. when he was a head coach and he took the. Giants to the playoffs in his first. year. >> And then what? >> Well, then we had a little skit.

24, >> but that'll happen. The NFL is a hard. place to win. We talked about that all. morning. >> College. Yeah, very easy. I understand. that. But whenever Yeah. Penn State. could be the right spot for him and we. would like to say to Dave Bowl, if you. go to Penn State, college football would. be pumped. Like he would be electrifying. it. Yeah. >> Does he know anything about all the. recruiting? You say he's with Nick. Sabin. Nick Sabin is like with great. recruiter of all time. Does he know. anything about the recruiting aspect of. it all? Is he going to be able to do the. NIL social part of it? James Franklin. had 70 employees working just away from.

ball just on everything else that was. happen. He automatically inherits that. or maybe there's a change of structure. Maybe athletic department kind of runs. that type of stuff. Daveball, you worry. about football. We'll kind of handle. everything else if we have to because it. feels like Pat Craft as somebody's. talked to him feels like he at least. understands what it's supposed to be. I. don't know if he can hands-on do it. every single day, but I think they have. a good vision of what it can be with. massive financial support behind it. Day. bowl to Penn State feels like a lock at. this exact moment as we sit right here. >> Yeah. And like the recruiting aspect of. it, it feels like if you have the. resume, that speaks for itself more so.

than the actual recruitment, like the. old school recruitment. Because if you. have a resume, you don't have to go in. there and say like, "Hey, this is what. I'm going to do. This is what I want to. do." Like he made Josh Allen and didn't. make him, but Josh Allen's biggest steps. as a quarterback. We talk about the. lasers all the time. Massive part of it. But also Dball was his OC. So was Day. putting him in the right spots? And you. know, you can throw in a lot of. different things. Diggs coming over, but. for the most part, Dball being the OC. was a huge deal for Josh's, you know, success and development and growth. So,

him having that resume, you could even. go to Jackson Dart and be like, "Hey, look what Jackson Dart was starting to. do." Like, I love that guy. One, pretty. good talent evaluator, and two, put him. in good positions. And that and that's a. massive deal. So, like recruiting wise, it almost feels as though Dball makes. that easier because then he has a. resume. And as we know, Penn State has. the biggest bag and a lot of coaches are. getting out of coaching because that's. the only thing that a lot of the. recruits actually care about. >> Well, just based on like what AQ said. and a lot of Penn State people like they. they want a big name. They don't want. the next big guy in college football.

Exactly. They have the money to kind of. >> the money people want a big name. >> Well, yeah. Yeah. Exactly. Like so if. this if he's available because I I mean. I think people thought maybe Dable would. get fired at some point this season, but. then they started winning a little bit. with Jackson Dart and it was like no, he'll he's actually going to stick. around. and he'll be the guy to kind of. take him to the next level. And if you. had any knock on Drew Aller, like we. were talking about him after the Orange. Bowl, maybe being, you know, a top five. pick in the draft or I guess before the. Orange Bowl, like I don't know if he. really ever he was always good. I don't. know if he really ever got any better.

and took that next step. So if you are. like one of those people it's like, hey, he's he's a actual quarterback. whisperer. Look what he helped do with. Josh Allen. Whether that's true or not, like it's on his resume. if they can get. a guy who he can develop into one of the. best quarterbacks in the nation and all. this kind of other stuff like this is. it's just a home run any way you look at. it. So like if you're Penn State, you. would almost think too that they would. want to act on this fast because the. longer he's out like there is a chance. that someone else slides in and he's not. there. >> And on that note, Dball can get in the. building for the rest of the season here.

and kind of see how it goes cuz his boys. at school there or whatever. So he's. going to want to go see Yeah. Get in. there. Let's get cuz he was at the end. of the year last two games Rich Rodrod. was able to travel with the team kind of. see the team and they lose to Texas. >> Tech I think by like 50 or something. like like they just got absolutely. steamrololled and Rich was like okay so. we got a lot of like quit on this team. if it's like so he was able to learn the. team learn it out that was just a couple. weeks let alone if you're able to do it. here for like a month basically towards. the end of the season here for Penn. State could be a big big advantage for.

them good for Penn State maybe falling. into something here that might be. perfect for them. >> how deep was he into his uh latest. contract because what's his money. situation if he so that'll kind of is he. any any rush to get into another job or. to leave the NFL and go back down to. college? It is a head coaching. opportunity, but you know how a lot of. these guys feel when they get that. opportunity in the NFL if I know big. Mike big Mike McCarthy talked about it. like hey once we get there it's so tough. to get in and stay in does he want to. take that step back down even though.

moneywise in college football should is. right up there with NFL guys. >> That's a hilarious thing. We're just. putting Dable at Penn State. D was like, >> "Yeah, >> I got two years left to be a. multi-millionaire golfer here, so let's. just all go ahead and slow our horses a. little bit.". >> But based on his personality, do you. think like he that guy needs to be doing. something football related? >> Well, that and now I'm thinking about. the Hard Knocks, all the things that. Penn State can do with the Hard Knocks. clips of Dable. Dable looks very cool in. a lot of those Hard Knox clips where. he's doing a conversation wanting dogs.

like, "Hey, need a dog, but you got to. be able to control it." Whenever this. happens, this happens. It's like they'll. be able to sell the hell out of Daybel. the person I think even though his. record with the Giants was not good at. all. Worst of all time I think right. with I think it's the worst to get to 60. games. I think he has the worst coaching. record in New York Giants history but he. got to 60 games. There's other coaches. that didn't get to 60 games I think. Right, Bruce? >> Yeah, exactly. Like he won coach of the. year in 2022 and that that allowed him. this leash. >> I'm sorry. Yeah, I I think it would be a.

slam dunk hire and that he is a great. ball coach and it would be a perfect. fit. I didn't even think about that when. I saw him sad in the Penn State hoodie. I just said, "Man, why does the. paparazzi keep getting our coaches right. after they get fired looking?". >> Yeah, cuz the pizza Joe Judge at the. pizza. >> Exactly. It happens every time. Um, so I. was bummed just seeing him bummed out. like that. Um, because, you know, I I. don't feel like it was it was uh even. probably the majority his fault with. everything going wrong there. Um, but. yeah, I think it would be an awesome fit. if Penn State.

>> All right, let's talk about the Giants. now. Okay, you talk about the Giants. because we're talking about Dable. leaving there. Guess who's starting. quarterback? Electricity is, >> ladies and gentlemen, James Winston. starting. >> Wow. >> The Giants are expected to start. quarterback. Jameus Winston versus the. Packers per Jordan. >> Renan. >> and uh Adam Shfter. Incredible breakage. of news by those two. Jameus Winston as. the starting quarterback. What do we. know about Jameus Winston as. quarterback? We know he's electrified. We know he's awesome. We know the boys. love him. We know he probably has every. defense at least a little bit understood.

from the amount of football that he has. played because the first four or five. years of his career, he couldn't even. see the defense. He had like the worst. vision in the history of quarterbacks. who have eyes in the history of the NFL. He threw the most touchdowns and the. most interceptions in one season. So. when you talk about playing for your. team and the other team, he was doing. that, but he couldn't see a damn thing. Then obviously Jamus moves on. He goes. to New Orleans Saints as he goes to. university. Then he goes to Cleveland. Browns. gets some rub and on Cleveland. Browns prime time games he gets miked up. and gets a chance to talk and the entire.

world remembers that Jameus has always. got his fast ball. This guy is always. preaching, always leading and he's. willing to do whatever for a team. Do we. think he's the guy for this New York. Giants team at this exact moment? And. what do you expect out of Jamus Winston. deeply? >> Oh, I mean he'll give you an opportunity. to win for sure. And one thing you know. about. >> which team. >> when one thing you know about when. Winston's on the field, you got an. opportunity to make a play of the ball. That goes for everybody on the field. everybody on the field, you're going to. have an opportunity to get your hand on. the pill. It can be a good thing. obviously for your team or a bad thing, but he's been a starter in this league.

He was the number one pick. He's only 31. years old and he has some continuity. with Mike Kafka. I think he had been. calling plays and now he's the interim. head coach. So, that'll be a good thing. Obviously, all all things were going. wrong when Russ was in there. kind of. seemed like everybody was kind of out on. Russ. But he's also been put in a tough. spot here with Jamie because of how bad. just everything is around him. defensively, offensively. You know, you. only get so many opportunities to be. that you much much more likely uh much. be much more happy to go into a spot.

where hey, maybe a quarterback gets. banged up, you got a good offense, you. got a good play caller, you can play. four or five good games and have another. five, six years in the NFL. So, this is. a tough spot to go in, but he's going to. compete. He's going to be good vibes in. that offense and that huddle. Uh the. guys seem to like him. So, um you'll. have a chance to at least compete and. win a game with Jamus playing. quarterback for the Giants. >> Uh I'm a believer in Jamus the human uh. being on a microphone any time. I don't. know if this necessarily makes me a. believer in the Giants playing football, but I will certainly have one eye on the. game. I will certainly have one eye on.

the game just to see what James says. And one ear, too. We should have one ear. on that thing as well, Con man. >> Yeah. The best part about James playing. is strictly the postgame press. conferences whether they get killed or. whether they win just because you know. he's going to say some asinine [ __ ]. >> or prophetic. >> in the best way. Yeah. Sorry. Asinine I. I use negatively there. I meant it in a. in in a very complimentary way like he's. going to say something that is so absurd. absurd. Yes. So ridiculous that it will. be uh you know like a block news on. Monday because of how awesome he is.

>> Good luck Jamus. >> Just one last thing on this too. I think. we're going to get some good nuggets. because I know Drew Drew Drew Brees, excuse me, is calling this game. So, you. know, former mentor of Jamus and he's. also going to be able to talk to him, you know, production meeting. So, some. of the stories we might get from Drew. Brees about Jamus that no one's known. before. It' be something to keep an eye. on as well. >> Packers are seven and a half point. favorites. How do we feel as that we. look at it right now? >> Uh, Packers. >> Okay. Yeah, me too. I don't I don't know. if anybody's changed. >> For sure. Is Lafllor still the coach? Cuz I'm taking the Giants for sure.

>> Wow. Maybe he's Penn State's next coach. What's that? >> Where is the game? >> I honestly don't. >> It's New York. >> Yeah. >> Oh, you are you are you out? You just. tap out. You don't care. >> No, I do. But, you know, this is the. kind of thing that happens to the. Packers. You know, you're you're hoping. maybe Hey, we're. >> Yeah, you're right. Giants plus seven. and a half. This is no questions asked. This is no questions asked. Giants plus. seven. >> I don't think they'll lose, but like. this is going to be way closer than it. has any business being. >> Well, Jameus Winston's on the other. side, so business no matter what. Okay. What if Jamus steals a win against the.

Green Bay Packers sitting in the middle. of Metife afterwards looking around. thanking God maybe a little bit of snow. >> fired coaches game. >> they ask Mo a little bit of lift a. little bit of boost and then. >> line. >> he'll ask he'll get asked a question of. some sort found early success in his. first start for three previous NFL teams. uh for the Bucks in 2015 he won two. touchdowns two that didn't sound great. uh Saints 2021 he won five touchdowns. zero interceptions had a 70% completion. rate and then Browns he had three. touchdowns zero interceptions 334 yards. >> 15 rookie.

Yeah. And we know at the Bucks he. couldn't see anything. >> Uhhuh. >> Like he actually could not see anything. This guy had no eyes. Actually had no. eyes. >> We saw it. You know, we saw him. squinting. >> All right. Next one right here. Who's on. what team? I don't know. There's people. there. And then every once in a while. that was coming back the other way. He's. like, "How the heck did not go to my. guy?" And then they show him film. He's. like, "Oh, my guy wasn't even close to. that." Gets LASIC. Things change. Saints, he does good. Browns he does. good in his start. Maybe it wears off a. little bit later, but the Giants have. him for this weekend against the. Packers. Good luck to them. Now, let's.

go to the Bengals. Joe Burrow, they have. opened his return for designation play. window, which is four weeks. He's back. off a IR. Remember Jason Glazer a couple. days ago said that he was aiming for. Thanksgivingish. Obviously, this is. before that, even though Thanksgiving. will fall into his return window time. And we would like to let Joe Burrow know. we're pumped for you, bud. Joey B being. back is great for the NFL. And not that. Joey Flack didn't do his thing, but. obviously this team goes through Joe. Burrow. Debb, what are your thoughts on. Joey B getting back in the facility and.

maybe playing a little football? >> I just love the message this sends to. the organization, the fans and his. teammates that, you know, he's busting. his ass and trying to get back uh as. soon as possible. You can easily for a. guy like him who, you know, has the big. contract who you can say, "Hey, let me. get fully fully healthy and just. probably focus on next year because of. how this team is constructed and how it. looks like it's going to compete down. the stretch." So, I love this for him. getting back out there and competing. Uh, Flaco, he did his job. He put up a. bunch of points, threw for a bunch of. yards. Uh, and he also took, I feel. like, a lot less hits than everybody.

else had been taking, a lot less sex. than even Burrow had been taking. So, maybe Burl kind of saw saw a little bit. more of that. Get the ball out quick, take care of yourself. But defensively. and the things around him have to be. much better. >> Uh, Bengals offensive line uh able to. win anything. >> Uh, not good. Not good. They got to they. got to get a lot better. And I think uh. Joe Burrow can make them a little bit. better by following the blueprint that. Flaco did. He got the ball out on time. He got the ball out quick. Not trying to. always steal an extra second and a half. and push the ball down the field. Let's. just, hey, let's do this. Let's do that.

Let's get it down the field a little. bit. Then let's take our shots. >> Here's some stats that aren't great for. the Cincinnati Bengals. It's not just. that their offensive line maybe not. great at protecting, but worst scoring. defenses in the Super Bowl era. That's. since 1966. That's a long time, brother. In uh 2020, they're giving up 32.4. points a game. That's the Lions. Uh in. 1981, the Colts were giving up 33.3. points a game. In 1966, that Giants. team, boy, they sucked on defense. 35.8. points per game. In this 2025 Bengals,

they're giving up 33.3 points a game. Yeah, that's historically ass on the. defensive side. They move on from a. defensive coordinator, spend all their. money on the offensive side, and. basically tell two defensive linemen to. kick rocks before the season even. starts. And this is kind of what happens. uh with the Cincinnati Bengals, con man. >> Yeah, good for Lanno. Clearly not his. fault. But the toughest part for the. Bengals is the teams they've been. competing for, you know, for the Super. Bowl, not not you know, the division for. the Super Bowl are now the wild card. teams. Like they have to go up. There's. a chance, I mean, we mentioned it before.

the show, there's a chance the wild card. teams this year are the Chiefs, Bills, and Ravens. And if you were to say that, you know, before the season, you'd. probably be, you know, hung as a witch. But it's one of those things where the. the Bengals every single year something. seems to happen to them that gives them. some sort of misfortune. And although it. does kind of blow that they they still. have a chance. They're talking about I. think over the next three weeks I I. believe it's Steelers, uh, Patriots, Ravens. I'm not sure if that first one's. right, but if Flaco can get one of those. and then Burrow can come back and run. the table, there's a huge chance they.

end up with 10 wins. >> Why not the Bengals? Do you bring him. back if if you're the owner? Do you let. him play? Like I said, >> the owner, Mr. Brown, >> Mr. Brown, >> how much am I paying you? >> Yeah, we're paying this guy, right? >> Can you get out there? Now, on that. note, what you're talking about is sound. football mind. Uh, if you're not that. Mr. Brown isn't, I'm just saying he is a. frugal business sports mind. What we are. saying from outside looking in, Joey. Flack's doing okay. Your team's not. going to win a Super Bowl this year. Do. you want to put Joey B who has been.

injured? Yeah. Multiple times, including. right now. Do you want to put him back. out there and potentially risk something. for next season whenever you're maybe is. that what you're. >> That's what I'm I'm just thinking. because he's clearly your franchise. He's one of the the best quarterbacks in. had an MVP caliber uh season last year. He's dealing with turftoe which we know. sounds, you know, not that bad, but. turftoe sucks. Especially if you one hit. one step the wrong way, it can start. impacting next season already. So, I. would depending on where the team is. When he is fully fully healthy, I know. he's going to want to go. But sometimes.

from that top you got to protect the. player from himself at this point. So. that's that's the only thing I'm. probably thinking and considering. >> And in part too it's just one like you. know what the offensive line is. You. know what the defense is in. Are are you. going to really throw him out there and. say, "Hey Joe, if you don't score 45. points, we're still going to lose." So. you kind of need to be. >> I don't I don't think it's about winning. the Super Bowl. I think for them it's. like, "Hey, Joe, you're we are our. entire franchise. We paid both your wide. receivers because you wanted us to. We. paid you because you wanted you wanted. us to. like you're a franchise and you. can play. And I think in Ohio, he's an.

Ohio guy, too. They're not they don't. Hey, >> he he's going to want to play for he's. already showing that for. >> and also Bengals fans are going to want. him to play cuz I think it's Ohio. people. And if I had to guess, I would. say ownership. Hey, how much did we pay. you? Yeah, you we're at least filling up. this stadium here to get these tickets. back. I'm not saying that's the right. decision. I'm just telling you. >> in this particular case, situations are. situational. I don't think there's even. a thought by anybody in that building to. save this [ __ ] for next year. I I I. don't think so. >> No. if they have like a 1% 2% chance of. making the playoffs and he can come. back, you know, cuz like you said, they're probably thinking, hey, we need.

to make the playoffs so we can sell the. limited edition, you know, Bengals. t-shirts, squeeze out as many additional. shekels as we can. And like you said, he's going to want to play no matter. what. So if I mean, if they deem that. he's healthy enough and there is even. like a shred of a doubt that they can. make the playoffs, like he's definitely. going to play. >> Yeah. Sorry, this entire computer just crashed. over here. So, we're trying to fix this. thing as we're live on air. But I think. he's going to want to play. He's gonna. want to play. And uh we would like to. let Joey be know. We appreciated doing.

it. Let's stay safe. Y. >> I told Patrick Mahomes that I told. Mahomes that as soon as I saw him on. Saturday. I think I've already said this. on the show, but it needs to be. restated. We said it to Joey Burrow, too. Uh whenever he came on the show, hey, enough with you just taking these. hits that you're taking. The entire city. goes as you go, brother. And it's like. Patrick M. Joey B was like, I think he. told us I like taking it kind of wakes. me up when I get in there. It's like, well, just get punched in the face. before you go out there. Yeah, let's. let's do a controlled punch in the face. so you can kind of wake up and feel. tough. Uh, but as we're playing here, we. need you to be healthy. Joey B started.

his season or his career taking huge. every week. I mean, there was a shot one. week where his head was dislodged from. his B like his helmet was sitting. outside of his shoulder pads against. Philadelphia Eagles. >> Yeah. Fra Cox. >> and then he bang and then he goes down. and then he comes back later and leads. him back to a tie. remember they had a. tie game or whatever. He went back on. the field. Then there's one down the. sideline where he like lowers his. shoulders, gets like bamboozled, flipped. up over top. There's one where he's. running back and forth, blindsided, dead. It's like we saw in the first. couple years just Joey Burrow just. getting crushed, crushed, crushed. We.

had so much faith in him with how good. he was going to be, but he couldn't stay. healthy. This one's freak injury here. This foot one feels like a freak injury. So, I assume he's very bummed out about. it. But it's like uh if they can't. protect him and they can't stop anybody, should there be a question on whether or. not we roll the dice on next season here. with. >> I know it's it's anti- football, you. know, as a football player, the people. in football, but as far as business goes. because the money is it's paid. It's. already tied up and you know who he is. Not like he has to go out here and prove. himself to anybody. So that's just a.

question. But obviously Joe, what's. that? >> He's got to prove himself to those. season ticket holders cuz that was. confirmed. >> What's that? >> That everybody was like, "Get me out of. here. I don't want to go to the jungle. ever again. This place freaking sucks. >> Yeah, but when the ruler of the jungle. is good, it's a good jungle. That's a. good point. It was up there. I thought. it was a cool jungle. I thought it was a. cool jungle. Uh, other big news here. Jared Goff got a little sauce. He was on. with. >> 971. Uh, >> Foxy knows the name. >> Doug Kh. >> Doug Kh. And what's the name of the uh. race?

>> Carson Anderson. >> Carson Anderson. So Jared Goff was. joining Carson Anderson. I'll tell you, Car looks awesome. The guy that gave. this question to him. And Jared Goff, hey, he's got a little sauce to him. I. didn't know that. Here we go. >> Javon Kinlaw got in your face at one. point back when they had a player. ejected. What was that interaction all. about? What was said back and forth? >> Yeah, he I don't He was He was He was He. was not I don't know. I mean, I don't. know what he was really saying. He was. He jumped off sides. I told him he. jumped off sides. He said, "I know." And. I don't know why he was so excited about. jumping off sides, but he was. Um and.

then I think I think that was before or. after they punched St. Brown in the. face. And um so I can't wait to see. Lewis Rick break that one down this week. for us on Turning Point. >> Okay, so Lewis Rick Turning Point. This. all goes back to the situation with. Brian. Okay. When Brian Branch, uh, he. had a scene, uh, >> punched Juju in the face. >> and then Turning Point with Lewis. Riddick on X basically put out a clip. out of context is what everybody was. saying NFL film was saying, but. basically they were trying to build up.

why the punch happened and why Brian. Branch felt obligated to do as such. They put it out there. It was a terrible. read by whoever was running social media. and decided to put it out. NFL Films. actually deleted it off of X and asked. us to say like, "Hey, we did not want to. do it. that that is not the objective of. what we're trying to do. That's not what. we're looking for. Lions people didn't. forget about it though, huh, Foxy? >> No, everyone was really mad about that. It felt like a hit piece. It was just. right after the, you know, the Chiefs. and the ref situation. So, Lions fans. were pissed off about the refs. They.

were pissed off about that. And then. now, I love seeing this out of Jared. Goff having a little [ __ ] to him and. kind of stirring the pot here with Lou. Riddick. And that's just it's kind of. the Detroit mentality here. And Jared. Goff is embracing it. Yeah, you guys are. kind of getting calls though because I. saw on Don Payne's Instagram story, maybe he wasn't the only one throwing. punches to helmets. >> Don Payne has been suspended for a game. for the punch that he put on a Monroe. St. Brown, but he says, uh, why don't we. take a little closer look at uh this. situation on the left center of the.

screen there? It's a Monro and Don. Payne. There's a push, there's a shove, and then watch Deron Payne's helmet. here. Boom. That was a right to the. face. So Don Payne posts this and says, "Oh, okay. I get suspended a game. because everybody sees what I do. But. how about a man on Ross saying brownie. right in front of a ref. Look, there's a. ref eye on it. Literally a hat on it. He. punched him right. HEY YO, WHOA, WHOA, WHOA. So obviously they were into it. First of all, love that Aman Ross St. Brown's getting into it with a defensive. lineman. >> Okay, it's a wide receiver, your best. wide receiver. He's in the middle of.

fighting actually with a defensive. lineman, a big one, a dog for the other. team. So obviously he's a guy that likes. to uh mix it up. We appreciate that. But. ba basically what Don was saying was. >> okay so I'm getting suspended for one. game when he gets suspended one game. that is without pay. Okay so it all like. some of the announcements that'll come. out they're like he's suspended without. pay. I think that's normally whenever. the game check is maybe a little bit. lower. This one they're like he's. suspended for a game and they didn't say. without pay. Every suspension is without. pay. You don't get you don't work that.

week. I think his game check is very. big. >> Yeah. Like I I if our math was right, we. think it's about a million dollars. This. guy who's losing a game check and. getting suspended clearly can't be doing. sneak right hooks. Can't be doing it, especially on prime time. Terrible. decision. But he's like this. So the guy. gets punched as a hero. Okay. He punched. me in the face earlier. Now I'm getting. fined and suspended basically for a game. for what I did. Interesting how the. Detroit Lions. >> once again. >> are now always on the right side. Is the.

league pushing the Detroit Lions? carrying their water a little bit. But. it does surprise me. I mean, Ros St. Brown mixing it up with a big dude. I. seen his pops. I I can kind of tell how. he was raised. He can get into it uh. with anybody. But it does surprise me. that the ref number one didn't throw a. flag. I don't think I've ever seen a. punch thrown or whatever you want to. call it, punch slap, somebody get hit in. the face in the helmet in front of the. ref and it not be a flag thrown. A lot. of times coaches say, "Hey, the second. guy always gets caught or get in. trouble." So I would tell Payne just. slap him in the mouth right there, you.

know, so that way you look at the whole. play, the whole situation, maybe you. find both of them, maybe you throw throw. both of them out the game, whatever it. is, you don't wait until. >> No, no, no. You're saying nobody throw. any punches. >> If a punch is thrown, you throw one. back. That's what I'm saying. That's. what I. >> We're already in the scene. >> We're in the scene. You got punched, you. got the right to defend yourself. Uh. that's once again, this is this is me. speaking from my standpoint. And uh and. I think it would have been handled. differently if it was that way because. we all just saw the pain punch. like, damn, what the hell did St. Brown say to. him? Uh, because it was so far.

separated, two different instances. But, um, you know, not surprised at all from. St. Brown. >> Holly, you guys are fighting each other. a lot down there in the trenches. Like. you offensive lineman handtohand combat. That's literally what every single day. is. We're big bodies hand combat. Dlineman as well. They work on their. hands a lot. A lot of them get into. boxing. Max Crosby, I think, spars with. UFC fighters during the offseason to. kind of get prepared for that. So, hands. being thrown and everything like that. kind of normal for football as a whole. It's the postplay shenanigans that the. NFL absolutely hates. Right, AK? >> Well, that's why the coaches always try.

and get it out of practice because. typically how you practice is how you. play. They hate they don't even want you. practicing throwing a punch in practice. because first of all, it's going to make. you tired. You're going to be dog [ __ ]. on your next play and then you can't do. it in a game. So, it's like what what. what's the point of doing this, right? Like there's no point. And when you do. that, you get suspended or you get fined. and now you're out the next game. It's. just there's nothing good that can come. from BA used to just run guys for the. entire practice. That's what BA said. He. fighting doesn't happen in my practice. or whatever. It's like, don't you kind. of like fighting? He goes, "No, fighting. is a penalty. I don't like fighting.".

No, if they want to get after it in. between whistles, >> you do what you got to do. But. afterwards, we're not having the big. scrum, the big fight that we have seen. and become accustomed to in the uh the. training camp practice, joint, joint. practices, how there's always a fight. there. And we as former players, me as. former players watched a lot of these. practices goes, that's a guaranteed. fight every single time. And BA is on. the opposite end of that. BA is like, "No, it's not. You just run these guys. They They want to fight. Sweet. Now. we're running. Hope you had a blast. This is Thursday of training camp. You.

missed an entire practice just doing. cardio because you guys wanted to fight. because of it being a penalty or. whatever." I still believe though that. if I'm head coach of a team, >> you want to see it. >> Yeah. And my guys better be all in. there, too. It better Hey, we better. have 114 people in this fight if we're. going to have it. If not, we're showing. it on team meeting. We're asking where. this person is. But on that note, I. guess you are kind of sending a wrong. message to the boys, especially whenever. actual games start coming around. >> What about veteran guys? Cuz like I know. early on I used to love to mix it up. That was like my way as like a guy.

trying to make a name in the league. That was my way to like, hey, I ain't. backing down, right? Like I'm going to. be in this fight. But as I got older, once I saw it, I'd start to back away a. little bit. Boy, good job over there. You guys are doing great. I'm not. wasting my energy. I'm not getting out. of breath cuz I got another period to. run 38 more plays. >> Yeah. For you though, wouldn't they just. kind of take their hands on your. forehead like this and you would just be. doing this. >> underneath would remember I trained UFC. I could kick. I could do all kinds of. things. Of course. Yeah. Yeah. Of. course. Big news out of Jacksonville,

Duvall. Uh the day after the draft, okay, this past year, >> uh the brand new leadership group down. in Jacksonville, Stoner and Liam Cohen. did a press conference about trading. bunch of picks to get up to number two. Okay. They draft Travis Hunter. That. came out of nowhere. huge pop for draft. night for us as our draft spectacular. and for everything else. So then Stoner. the next day does a press conference and. he basically says drafting Travis Hunter. at number two is showcasing that. football could be lived outside the box.

Football is a sport that you're supposed. to kind of explore the boundaries. Football is a sport that you're supposed. to take to the next level. Football is. something that is right now but it can. be different in the future and players. like Travis Hunter are the guys that are. going to change it. And that's why we. took a big swing to all of our fans to. say, "Hey, we are going to try to move. in a positive direction and different. direction than in the past. We got a. player that is an anomaly. We got a. player that's unique. We got a unicorn. We got an alien in Travis Hunter." And I. felt the excitement all the way in. Indianapolis. I think we felt excitement. across the entire country.

Congratulations to Jacksonville, we. said. And congratulations to Travis. Hunter, who's a guy that's gonna attempt. something that nobody's ever really been. able to do in the history of the NFL. There's been a lot of great athletes. that have played in the NFL. There's. been players that have played on both. sides, but only in small packages. because it's so many reps on both side. How could your body hold up? How could. your brain hold up with it all? Travis. Hunter was trying it at the beginning of. the season. We're more on offense than. we are on defense. Then we're getting a. hundred some snaps on defensive side, 100 some snaps on the offensive side. Everything's rolling and we're thinking. to ourselves, wait a minute, Travis.

Hunter's about to do something that. we've never seen before. He might not be. as good this year at both these. positions. He's certainly splashy and. everything like that, but next year with. the amount of experience, he might be. able to do this for the foreseeable. future, and we might be talking about. one of the greatest football players of. all time. Then on Thursday in practice, we hear of an injury. On Friday, we find. out that he's out. Then they put him on. IR. Then we get a a response that the. ACL is intact, and we're like, well, if. they're looking at the ACL, that means. something really not good. Turns out LCL. is torn, and he has been put uh on the.

bench basically for the rest of the. season to get healthy and to gear up for. next year. So, Debbud, I ask you as a. person that was a wide receiver and a. DB, obviously focused more on DB once. you got to college and into the NFL, we. all wondered if his body was going to be. able to hold up. >> I'm not saying his body quit here on a. Thursday practice cuz things can happen. I I mean, which is even more so a part. of playing two positions, you're very. vital to the team. If you lose one. person, you lose two positions, it's. very difficult. That's a whole another. conversation about somebody playing on.

both sides of the ball. How should we. view this, you think, at this moment. with this news? And what do you think. the future looks like for Travis Hunter? >> I mean, I'm still I'm still all in on on. Travis Hunter and him maybe being that. unicorn. You know, we saw him do it at. the collegiate level, at the high level. to win the Heisman Trophy. And we saw. them move mountains to jump up to number. two and go draft him. Anybody getting. drafted number one, number two overall. at whatever position, you you're the. height of your expectations are you. could be potentially, you know, one of. the best players ever in the league. That's why you're drafted so high. So,

I'm still all in on them. The injuries. injuries happen. It's football. lost a. 100% injury rate. Everyone is going to. get hurt. It's unfortunate that it. happened in practice early in his in his. rookie season. We saw so much more that. he could do on both sides of the ball. And I still I'm still hing him. I still. think he can do the both ways thing. Um. he just has to get healthy now. He has. the rest of this season to get healthy, get his body in shape and more so the. mind. The mental part of the game is. what I think most even pros, former pros. are like, "Hey, it's it's tough just to. play week to week on one side of the. ball." So that'll be the biggest.

challenge for him going forward is. between the ears, you know, handling. both positions. >> Yeah. And that's where I'm at. I think. he needs to just focus on one side. I I. think. >> Okay. So you're saying you are he's. saying I'm still in on the uh Travis. Hunter experience. You're saying nope. This was an indicator from the football. gods that he needs to just go ahead and. focus on one side of this thing and give. him a package maybe on the other side. >> I'm still all in on him. Yeah, exactly. I think he needs to be focusing on one. side and for me it would be wide. receiver because that's where I think he. can have the most damage and whenever.

you look at the other side of the ball. Okay, maybe put them in on some nickel. situations or some third down. situations, give them those looks in. practice. Hey, these 15 things you're. going to focus on on defense. We might. sprinkle you in, but most of the time. you are an offensive player. You're. going to help us score points. It's a. points driven league. Let's let him. focus there. >> Would that be abnormal to guys in the. past? That would kind of be similar to. what uh other guys have maybe done in. the past, right? >> Uh yeah, rarely. Rarely. So, >> no. Yeah, I'm not saying I'm saying like. two, three. >> Yeah. Like Deion Sanders, you know, hey, we got these, you know, these 10 15.

players you may run. Uh Julian Edelman, he played a little DB. Troy Brown played. some DB before him, but more of like a. hey, cat coverage, you got that type of. guy. But if you're running in any type. of sophisticated def and everything. sophisticated on this level, it's a week. to week. Like we're playing the Rams. this week and we're playing the. Cardinals next week. Those are two. different offenses or defenses. But, uh, yeah, you you got I'm still I'm still. I'm still with it because I've seen him. do so many things that I've never really. seen done before. So, I still want to. see where it can go kind of maybe.

selfishly, but AQ, if I'm a coach, maybe. I do go from the saying, hey, maybe put. him on one side. But, as a fan, I still. want to see the experiment work out. >> You can argue the only bright spot in. the last three weeks for the Jags was. Travis Hunter in London going up against. the the Rams, and I think he went for. 108 and a touchdown. He was the only. player to score for the Jags. I think. they lost 35-7. But it does seem as. though, hey, 20 and in, you're going to. play corner when we're in the red zone. And guess what? We're going to need one. here. Why don't you go out there, get. your hands on that ball, maybe get a. turnover, and then at least he can.

focus. And Leon Con, you know, offensive. coach get in that system, you help out. Trevor Lawrence. >> Yeah, offensive coach is a big deal, I. think. Yeah, offensive coach is going to. want to, you know, hey, I got ideas. and. he's the head coach of the team, you. know, and he is faster, quicker, explosive, and has good football IQ and. feel. So, we're not saying Travis Hunter. not going to be a great NFL player at. this point. None of us are, right? >> No way. >> Yeah, we all think he's going to be an. incredible. But what's it going to look. like is the big question. They will only. be able to figure that out. Ladies and. gentlemen, we have some breaking news.

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>> Time out. Time out. I love you, but. you're nuts. Post the blooper reel right. after. That'd be epic. before episode. one drops out. Drops out of college. >> Okay, now I'm in my own head. But before. episode gets released, I said the first. thing I did again. I said it again. What's up everyone? It's Matthew. Kachchuck here. Oh god, I said it's. Matthew Chuck here. Not on Matthew. Chuck. Sorry. Let's redo that one more. time. The first and only hot one more. and this is all she wrote. I'm going to. mic drop after. Let's get into it.

Hell yeah. Lets from the people that. brought you the New Heights podcast now. bring you Wingmen with joining us now, Matthew and Brady. Kachcho. >> Yeah, boys. >> Boys, congratulations. Doing a show like. this, especially with the people from. Wave who've obviously accomplished the. Brother podcast to the uh highest of new. heights for sure. Is a beautiful thing. Let's start with you, Matt. Matt, when. did you know that you guys wanted to do. a podcast? And what are you kind of. hoping that this podcast will show to.

the world? I would say it was right before playoffs. when when we were offered kind of. something along the lines of a podcast. and both of us are in playoffs. We're. like, "All right, we'll talk to you uh. you know down the road and we'll figure. it out." And I think it started to. slowly pick up a little bit of steam in. the summer um after winning. And uh I. don't know, it just kind of happened. really quickly and finally is actually. happening. So for us, it's super. exciting. Our first episode drops. tomorrow on November 13th, but.

throughout the NHL season, it'll be on. Wednesdays. But we're just super. excited. Like, we FaceTime pretty much. daily, weekly or whatever. Now, we're. getting paid to do it once a week. Are. you kidding me? So, it's uh it's pretty. exciting. And I'm uh I'm just super. excited to grow the game. Our dad always. said, "You better leave the game in a. better place than when you got here." I. mean, there was a few fbombs obviously. thrown in there, but uh that's good. It's. >> But this is our our best way of doing. it, and we're super excited. We feel. like we're the luckiest guys in hockey. We're given like a golden ticket right.

now. I don't know why they chose us to. do it, but we are so excited. >> Well, we as hockey fans feel like we've. been given a thing on a golden platter. here with you two chatting more about. the game that uh a lot of people need to. fall in love with and they will, especially if they see it. So, more eyes. on the product, the better. Brady, let's. chitchat a little bit about the plan for. the show. We're going to have guests. We. going to be chit cchatting because Jason. and Travis uh they chitchated about at. the beginning of New Heights about how. you know we get a chance to catch up. basically weekly and to your point Matt. they're going to pay us for this. Are. you guys having guests on there as well.

or are we going to learn more about the. hockey culture you think through this. show and that's a great thing I think. for hockey Brady? Yeah, I think our for the first bunch of. episodes, I think it's just going to be. us talking of course majority hockey, but you know, the thing about Matthew. and I, we we're interested in all. sports. We are so competitive growing. up. Um, and then just other life things. I think that's what's, you know, our. FaceTimes are usually about where we're. kind of just talking about what's kind. of going on. So, uh, no, we're excited. about just kind of building off that and.

I think down the road to invite some. guests and and really have a great time. with them. >> We know the Wave people are incredibly. talented. Can't wait to see the clips as. well, which people will be able to. follow along with. Excited to see what. you boys bring to hockey. Brady Connor. has a question for you. >> Yeah, boys. Thanks again for fighting. Canada this year. That was incredible in. the formations. That moment, that moment. will live on forever no matter what. But, uh, Brady, I wanted to ask you, uh, since your brother plays for the. Panthers, you've been able to kind of. see, you know, the Stanley Cup kind of,

um, what's equation or basically the. things that the Panthers were able to do. to get there. and you know complete the. journey twice back to back. Are there. things you pull from from that to kind. of implement into your own locker room? You know, you're the captain, you're the. one that kind of sets the tone. Are. there things you pull from the Panthers. and Matt and Brad Marshian because he's. the best player on the team. Uh things. that you can bring to Ottawa. >> Yeah. No, I've I've been around the last. uh know two years and you know, just. talk with Matthew, you know, throughout.

them. I think the number one thing that. I've taken from them and from especially. Matthew you know battling through stuff. is just the resilience of you know day. in day out it's a it's a new day it's a. new opportunity and just you know if. things are kind of hitting the fan a. little bit that just you know just stick. with it and uh you know believe you're. going to win. So I think the resilience. from Matthew especially that you know. kind of translated to that group uh is. something I've taken and tried to. implement with the auto centers. I don't. know if Atawwa has an elbow room or not, but uh hopefully they get a chance to.

enjoy as much as they have down there in. South Florida. Mattie, let's talk about. it a little bit. You're injured right. now. How's the body feel? I saw you. whenever we did game day uh with the. Hurricanes. Had a little bit of a limp. there. Obviously, you were nowhere near. 100%. Where are you at now? Both of you, I guess. We'll start with you, Matt. Where's the body at? How do you feel? And what does the season look like for. you other than just the Wingman podcast? Yeah, I feel really good right now on. track if not better um for my return. here. And we we have like the little I.

don't want to say we have a date, you. know, a solid date, but we have a little. uh I don't know, a twoe period where I'm. planning to be back by and uh I've been. really really happy with how it's gone. so far. Obviously coming with winning. last year and the effects of it on just. some of the things you got to deal with. So I'm I'm recovering. I feel better. than ever. I'm excited to get back on. the ice with the boys. I miss it so. much. Like Britney and I were talking. about actually on our practice podcast. It's like our biggest passion in life is.

hockey, right? And we love playing it. more than anything in the world. But. right now, like all we get to do is talk. about it. So, it's actually been really. fun kind of going through this process. And I just think people are going to. like listen to it a lot. >> Well, I hope you also explain to the. people how injured everybody is in. hockey seemingly at all times and you. guys just never talk about it. It's an. upper body. Well, what part? just it's. north of the Mason Dixon dick line, you. know, just know that that it's it's from. up here. Don't ask any questions. Is it. Brady for you? How do you feel? What's. going on with your body? And uh what are.

your expectations on the ice for the. season? >> Yeah, I'm feeling great. I'm four weeks. uh you know, post surgery and you know, finally able to know grab my stick and. stick handle and stuff. There was a. couple weeks of no pucks, no stick, just. bag skating. So that was a lot of fun to. do. But uh. >> the worst sounds like that sounds like. the worst of all. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> All time worst. But it's it's good that. now able to stick handle and uh. hopefully back in the next couple weeks. and you know just feeling really good. about our team our final way and and.

really excited just to get back and go. to battle with them. >> Yeah. Florida Panthers kind of ass right. now. Ottawa kind of good right now. Hope. you're enjoying that during the Wingman. podcast. Debut episode tomorrow will. come out Wednesdays throughout the. season. Brady, did you lose your dangles. because you weren't able to control the. pocket or did you did you walk out there. and look like a [ __ ] on the ice. whenever you got back in your hand, Brady? >> Oh, I had I had my boxing gloves still. on, so it was.

>> Oh, two weeks to work on it. >> Uh, okay. Uh, Ty has the last question. for both of you. Go ahead, Ty. >> Yeah, for both you guys, obviously the, you know, winning the Stanley Cup is the. end all beall. It's what you're trying. to do each and every year. But with the. Olympics coming around and given how. vital you guys both were to USA's team. in the four nations, like how how. important does that become? I mean, even. right now, like we're kind of starting. to talk to it uh or talk about it. because it is getting closer. Like. ultimately, like where does that rank.

when it comes to winning a Stanley Cup. or having the opportunity to win an. Olympic gold medal? >> What? >> Yeah. Yeah. I guess. >> Yeah. >> Go ahead. Yeah. I I think that the. ultimate goal, right, is winning a. Stanley Cup. But when you get this. opportunity once every four years, and. for us, it's not even every four years. This is our first time being able to. compete for our country in the Olympic. stage. And like hockey to us is the. greatest sport in the world. I really. think this is why, you know, our friends. at our friends at Wave wanted to get.

this podcast going now to like build. some steam for hockey and get it like. going and and just really excite people. for the personalities and the sport of. hockey for the Olympics. And for us to. get that call in June to to make the. team already, it was like one of the. greatest calls you could ever receive. And I I just truly think that for the. first time in so long that NHL players. are going to the Olympics. Like we're so. passionate about our country. Like we. want to win gold medal more than. anything in the world right now. And. it's I think it's a great time to be a.

hockey fan. I think it's a great time to. be a hockey fan for the Americans. And. we're really excited about not only the. first six, but the team that we can we. can have over there. And if if the four. nations was the appetizer, I can't wait. for this main dish here in the Olympics. >> Yeah. Neither can we. And Brady, do you. echo his sentiment or have anything to. add on about playing for America where. we all get real excited about us beating. the hell out of, you know, founders of. the sport, Canada? Sure. And then. obviously Eastern Europe is having quite. a showing in hockey, but whenever we're. winning, we're a lot louder. We like to.

be obnoxious about it. Are we going to. have that in the Olympics? And what are. your thoughts on it? >> I mean, there was just so much pride. playing for the US and and just felt. like, you know, you weren't just playing. for the guys in that room. You're truly. playing for everybody in the country. Everybody that serves, protects, know. our country, keeps us safe. You really. feel like you're playing for something. bigger than yourself. And I really can't. believe it's 90 days away. So, so far it. up. >> All right. Well, you get those boxing. gloves off your hands, okay? We need you. to have some good touch, brother. Okay? And uh keep those boxing gloves on when.

we're fighting the other country. We. appreciate you, boys. Good luck with. Wingmen debuting tomorrow. You can. download that where all podcasts are. seen. They have bunch of social media. platforms as well. And then it'll be on. Wednesdays throughout the rest of the. year. We will certainly be watching and. we appreciate you for stopping by and. giving us an opportunity to chat about. it. Good luck, boys. >> Awesome. Thank you. Thanks, Pat, as. always. >> I wish you guys would have spoke in. unison, you know. Bye. One's in Canada, one's in South Florida. I mean, that's. how it's going to be, ladies and.

gentlemen. Duck Chucks. >> Yeah, boys. >> Those good Americans right there. That's. right. >> Chucks are good Americans. Talking about. hockey would be good. >> Yeah. I think anytime we get more. players talking about hockey, the better. because the hockey culture is like don't. talk. So then you don't really get to. know about it because there's no real. personal connection to anybody that's in. hockey because they literally have been. told their entire life hockey isn't. about you. It's about the team. But then. you realize once you start kind of uh. sorting through it all, it's like. hockeyy's got great moxy. These boys, they'll eat pucks, lose their teeth, drink 45 beers, get out there the next.

day with a broken back, play for the. boys. It's like I think anytime we get. to learn more and more about a sport, it's better. Hockey is certainly one of. those and they're only up into the right. at this point. Wingmen should be. beautiful with the Kachchucks debuting. tomorrow. That's from Wade, the leader. in digital entertainment for next. generation audiences. I think there's. some stats about all that, but. nonetheless, WAVE, YOU ARE AWESOME for. making this happen with the Kachchucks. We'll be back on the other side. Be a. friend. Tell a friend something nice. It. might change their life.

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this one Wednesday November 12th 2025. I. will show you the program begins now. >> Football is the greatest and it's not. just me that gets a chance to chat about. it every single day. The toxic table. does as well at Boston Connor and at Tai. Schmidt. How about the Kachchuck. brothers launching a podcast into space. tomorrow? >> Pretty sweet actually cuz like you said, you know, you outside of like maybe. spitting chicklets, I feel like current. guys who are actually playing right now, like we we've said this several times. over the last few years. It's like it'd.

be nice to hear more from these guys, especially guys who are actually. household names and we just don't, you. know, every once in a while we'll get a. player on the show and it's always an. awesome conversation and that's always. the first reaction is like, "Wow, it'd. be sweet if we could hear more from. these guys on like a more, you know, ordinary basis as opposed to just every. few months someone comes on. So, for. them to be doing it each and every week, like it's awesome. >> Yeah. And we say this from a standpoint. of we've been doing this show since. what, 2017? >> Yep. And I'm from Pittsburgh, which is.

hockey time uh USA. I've seen a couple. Stanley Cup celebrations. >> You need to not. >> used to do this. Okay, >> they are right now. >> Hey, we are again. >> with the same boys that created this as. hockey cup. Interesting. They're still. there and we're still doing it. >> Trophy center. >> I know you guys had hockey beach for a. while. >> They're still currently down there right. now. >> Are they? >> Yeah. talking about the standings. sitting right in front of. you runs right now. We can run the.

records if you like to. >> We played a lot of hockey last couple. years. All right. >> Very. And that's actually what Kachchuck. said just last hour. He's like, we play. a lot of hockey and you know, you win. back-to-back Stanley Cups. That's a long. time. And if three straight Stanley. Cups, back-to-back winning Stanley Cup, that's a lot of hockey. The body did. take some wear and tear, but I'll be. back. He said I'm ahead of schedule. He. said there's a twoe window that I might. be uh responding or returning in. It's. all on good. But if you look up there. towards the top of everything, you know, it's right back to what it should be. Pittsburgh Penguins sitting at five,

Boston Bruins AT FOUR. CANADIANS, WHAT? I didn't know they could still play. hockey. Carolina Hurricanes, they got. some Kaniacs down there. And the New. Jersey Devils, we know that they're. there now. They won't be later. So, let's just assume that the two through. five will bump up at least one because. the Devils will do something to figure. this whole thing out. But I don't see. the Red Wing. Oh, they're down at 10. I. don't see the Florida. Oh, they're down. at 13th. Okay. Yeah, hockey guns back. I. think in Boston, >> we saw uh I ran into like four or five.

people yesterday from Boston whenever we. were down there in Paris Island. >> Man, you all have the same mindset. >> Oh, yeah. >> Yeah, we're all the way back. Every. sport. >> Mhm. >> Every sport. We're back. Yeah. >> Sorry about it. Basically, is what they. were saying. Short guy, little round. guy. He's from uh Rhode Island, I think. Had a sweet hat. He looked like a. picture of what a New Englander about. 55, 60 years old should look like. hands. in pocket, sweet jacket. Yeah, we're. back. You know, just just kind of should. be good. Yeah, should be good. Young. coaches, too. Yeah, we should be good. around the entire thing. It's like I'm. around a masso on a regular basis. He.

feels as if all the sports are back. You. guys actually are. It does feel. >> Yeah, a thousand%. And the Bruins being. good is incredible. Just because we've. really only lost guys, but to what you. were saying last hour about, you know, the hockey player toughness is Dan. Ochara, Boston Bruin legend. He just. went into the Hall of Fame and Don. Sweeney, the GM, gave this speech or. this kind of little story on the red. carpet to the Hall of Fame or whatever, talking about how Charara, who broke his. jaw in game six of the Stanley Cup. final. He went and saw him that night in. the hospital and he walked into the.

hospital room, jaw, you know, wired. shut. Sweeny's like emotional like, "Holy [ __ ] this is our captain. Our. captain's out." And Char picked up a. pencil and just wrote down I'm playing. on the uh paper or whatever was in front. of him. And then the next night or two. nights after whenever game seven was uh. of the Stanley Cup finals against the. Blues I believe it was in 2019 um you. know he was introduced in the starting. lineup and he had the whole entire you. know fishbowl uh face played on and. everything. So it's one of those. testaments just to the hockey player. toughness you were talking about. >> Yeah. And Pittsburgh has it all again.

Okay. The Pittsburgh Penguins are back. on top. But from that I my 30th birthday. I had a Pittsburgh Penguin cake. Uh, growing up I was a diehard Pittsburgh. Penguins 30th 30th birthday. I had a. Pittsburgh Penguins cake. Like growing. up dieh hard Pittsburgh Penguins fan. Couldn't get tickets to the Steelers. Okay. But we could potentially get. tickets to get into the igloo. Obviously. celebrated all street hockey all deck. hockey where I'm at. Like I'm lifelong. Penguins actually lifelong Penguins fan. Can't skate but I certainly enjoy when.

the Penguins are good. Since we have. retired, I think I've sang the praises. of the Pittsburgh Penguins and called. Sydney Crosby the GOAT for I don't know. eight years straight now. At this point, very loudly, we couldn't get a. Pittsburgh Penguin on this show for the. life of us ever. Before we're on ESPN, when we're on ESPN, you name it. There's. a lady that works for the Pittsburgh. Penguins, an Italian lady who's the PR. person who has just shut it down at. every single turn. Nope. Nope. Nope. Nope. Nope. Nope. And she's not the only. one. It's like every team basically all. of hockey basically had a culture of. nope nope nope nope not allowed it's not.

about them it's about the team it's. about the team it's like well what about. your league like don't you think if we. learned about these like Sydney Crosby's. really we met him at big night out. she and they and he was kind of forced. to be there because every Paul SK was. there Rothberger was there you name it. we had basically everybody from. Pittsburgh in their building okay in. their building so I think they felt. obligated to god Crosby's like one of. the coolest dudes on earth throw a. football 20 yards through a thing, won a. million dollars for somebody talk [ __ ]. Chris Leang talks [ __ ] If Genny Malcin.

talks [ __ ] it's like, man, it would be. great if you guys would have just done. something in the last like 20 years that. you've been here because I think we. would have only grown our appreciation. for the team and for the sport as a. whole. So, any type of media that hockey. does, we love. So, we're pumped that. Wave is doing that with the Kachchuck. brothers. I think it's going to be. great. I don't know if we just need to. see them in like just bare Did you see. that? Yeah, maybe you you spruce up. >> we tape a hockey stick. >> or puck. >> to the wall or something on there.

>> But I think it's going to be great and I. think once they start talking when we. learn about it, it's only good for the. sport. So up and to the right and shout. out to Gary Bman, the commissioner of. the NHL sending a video back whenever I. asked him like within 20 30 minutes live. from the Hall of Fame saying thank you. and happy birthday to the Marines. So, it's like we love the NHL. We love. hockey players. We love their culture. We're happy that it's going to be. exposed. And here's Sydney Crosby uh. winning a million dollars for somebody. A big night out. And Chris Latang and. Gino said he was definitely going to. make it. I didn't think so. He did. Paul. SK threw 100 mph football off of that.

thing. And uh it was a magical night. It. it legitimately was a magical night. And. all I thought afterwards was Sydney. Crosby is so cool. Why would we not want. him to be talking? Well, that's a hockey. decision, I guess, that has been made a. long time ago. 12-year NFL vet Super. Bowl champion. AQ Shipley's here. >> Thank you. We're going to get to your. talking points, your takeaways here in a. matter of moments. Joining us live from. an Attaken, Ohio is a man who is a. college football national champion, Super Bowl champion, RDER Cup winner. Ladies and gentlemen, AJ Hawk. >> Hawker, how you doing, pal? Big news in.

the NFL. Brian Dayball gets fired. He. leaves his house in the middle of a. snowstorm, has a Penn State hoodie on. AQ Shipley goes, he's going to be an ex. head coach Penn State. That's good news. We have no idea if Dball, who's Daves. and confused at the moment, even wants. to be a college football coach. But it. sounds like Penn State people are like, "Think we found him." And he was on a. tabloid. That that is exactly who we are. looking for. What are your thoughts on. potentially Dable becoming Penn State. coach that we talked about in the first. hour? >> Yeah, it wasn't like my initial thought.

when he got fired like, "Oh, Penn State. should go snatch him up." But it does. seem to make sense the more you think. about it. Like AQ said, they've been. looking for an explosive offense for for. many years now. So, Dave, we know he he. can score some points offensively and. seems to be a guy that kind of relate to. people and uh and recruit some dudes. there and hire the right staff. So, why. not? I would imagine Penn State's at. least going to reach out and try to. interview this guy. >> Has anybody reached out to you from Penn. State since the first hour of you just. saying, "I'd love this guy to be the. head coach." Cuz I'm going to be honest, I had not heard it either, AJ. AJ, you. said your first thought when D gets. fired isn't like he should be the Penn.

State coach. Me neither. I I don't think. really anybody thought it. Then I see. him wearing that hoodie leaving his. house and I go, >> "What? Is this him saying maybe I'm. interested? Then you look at it was like. no actually his kid goes there. It's. like yeah. So are we saying and then AQ. this morning Brian Dball is going to be. a coach Penn State Davy Lions. That's. just what you're hoping right at this. point. >> That's exactly what I'm hoping. I love. that. I actually thought that was me. when I saw that picture there for a. second. Bald white with a with a goatee. wearing a Penn State hoodie. I just. Yeah. Clearly the snow gave away.

>> His shoes are much better than yours. >> Much skinnier than me now then, too. I. mean, he's uh but he is I think he's the. perfect hire. I think he brings. accountability. He's everything you. would want in a coach. Again, like I. mentioned over and over again, it's. Sabin and Bellich Tree. Obviously, McDermott and Buffalo, but what he did. with Josh Allen, and we need an. explosive offense to win in college. football these days, and you need a. quarterback. I think he can get both of. those. >> I hope that happens. And speaking of. quarterback, Dayo's gone now. Jamus. Winston's getting some shot. Yeah. And. is Dayball gone? If Jamus has been.

starting all season, we'll find out. What are your thoughts on Jamus Winston. starting for the Giants? AJ Hawk? >> Yeah, as a fan of the NFL and a fan of. Jamus, I am very excited about this, but. I I instantly thought of Russ. Like, did. they come and they sit him down in the. QB room say, "Hey, Jamus is going to. go." Like, Russ, this is your time to be. uh be ready. We might need you. You're. one play away. >> Honestly, I don't know. Like, I I think. some people were saying that maybe Shane. told Russ that he could be starter for. Giants, which is why he signed with. Giants. So, if they were to make him.

emergency quarterback, it kind of be a. smack in the mouth to Russell Wilson. So, did Jamus know that there was a. promise to Russ for him to be a starter. and that Jackson Dart was going to be. drafted in first round and probably get. some rub at some point? And Jameus said, "It's cool. I'm just here for the. vibes." Anyways, how do we get to this. point? I don't think any of us know. But. the Russell Wilson angle certainly a. fascinating one because how does he. feel? Is he a full-time backup to Jameus. Winston now? Is that a tough pill to. swallow or is everybody a fan of Jamus. and willing to help him debug? I mean, we'll see. You know, who who knows? And.

and we're getting to the point where. it's like about ah who cares is it's. going to be Giants on the next year. How's what's going to be what's going to. be the new challenge. quarterbacks do have a ton of starting. experience in the league, so it's not. going to be too big for them. So, uh, you know, I'm I'm looking forward to it. Like, like AJ said, it is going to be an. exciting brand of football. When Jameus. is understood, >> there'll be some prime time games we'll. be forced to watch, but we'll certainly. have an ear on those games. No doubt. about it. Yeah, we might not have an eye.

on these games, but we're certainly. going to have an ear on him, and it's. going to be what does Jamus have to say? And uh we will certainly enjoy that. Now, ladies and gentlemen, joining us is. a man who's a first ballot hall of famer. whenever he becomes eligible. He's a. member of the Bull Ring of Honor and now. full-time color commentator for CBS. And. I like the way he calls the game. He's. fun in there. >> He's fun in there. Ladies and gentlemen, JJ. >> WJ, how you doing, buddy? How you doing? >> I'm great. How are you guys doing? How's. your Wednesday going? How is everyone? >> Just burning some sage over here. You.

know, keeping all the spirits out. You. got to do what you got to do. J, we. don't. >> fire Marshall on hand. >> Well, actually, there's a fire. department right across the street. They. were here the other day whenever. somebody blew a Freze. They said, >> "Sure, >> it was breaking news.". >> Freze does not set off fire alarms. >> Yeah, it was never, never will. >> Really? No. Mitt told me that he he took. a massive dump and uh Whoa, smiles and. he took the Fbreze and he flew it and. set off the fire alarm and then lo and. behold, fire department right across the. street who we appreciate. They're good.

people. We appreciate you. >> Oh, yeah. >> They were right over here. Two trucks, no time right across the street. We're. like, well, it was Mitt. And they said, "Oh, we get it." And they turned around. and they went right back across the. street. So, you know, no fire marshall. needed here. None of that. Just burning. sage classic. Everybody does it once a. day just to keep the good vibes rolling. Speaking of good vibes, Jage, I'm pumped. that you're here for this. Ladies and. gentlemen, it's time for AQ Shipley's. Takeaway. >> Jage, feel free to chime in at any. moment here on AQ's three big talking. points coming out of the NFL.

>> I will. >> Oh, you got a microphone. Have you. always had that mic right there? >> No. How's it sound? >> Really? Not when you get that close. It. sounds like pickles. Need to get. pickles. Sound like Dan Cook a little. bit. >> We're going to be a little delayed on. our landing here. NOW'S NOT THE TIME. NOW'S NOT THE TIME FOR THOSE JOKES, JJ. NOW'S NOT THE TIME. Good though. That. was good. >> That was. >> It did sound like an actual pilot there. Yeah, but people don't want to hear that. about delays cuz No, they don't. >> They're actually hearing there's been a. delay to flight 2. >> I thought you were going to solve it.

yesterday. I mean, you had the you had. the head honcho on. I thought this whole. thing was going to get settled on the. McAfee show. Government shutdown done. >> I think it did. Did it? I think it. actually did. He said it and I said, "Well, I heard it's not happening yet.". He goes, "Well, there's certainly some. other things and then I got to sign it, but we're they want to stop the big. beautiful bill to be frank," he said in. there. But I thought we're good. I think. we're getting to a point where it's good. because we've been riding alongside uh. Mike Foss and Debbut and people that. travel literally every single week. What. a nightmare. What? Okay, breaking. We.

have breaking. >> now that we're in this world. >> The House Rules Committee voted 8 to4 to. advance the Senate passed government. funding package. It now goes to the. House floor for consideration. Okay, there's so MANY STEPS. THEY ALREADY. [ __ ] VOTED TWICE FOR IT. >> We did it. >> I don't even know. >> Guys, we did it. McAfee Show. ended the government shutdown. >> Nobody's talking about Nobody's talking. about. >> Nobody's talking about this. They only. want to write all the negative stuff. They don't want to talk about ending the.

shutdown. >> Thank you. And it got brought up while. we were talking to them. There's another. standoff happening that maybe the person. was part of was there wasn't brought up. We would just like to be talked about. A. little bit of journalism here, please. We did a little bit of journalism. Salute troops. Appreciate the troops. Some people don't respect or like the. troops. What I learned uh from. yesterday. But let's get back to a man. that does respect and appreciate the. troops. >> Hell yeah. >> And Jage, we like that new microphone. It looks amazing. Yeah. I I really like. it. It looks super cool down there, too. The Wisconsin hoodie looks cool, too. I. think Wisconsin people are going to be. happy that you're potentially repping. them a little bit.

>> Big win. You. >> I mean, I had to you I mean, our punter. was the number one passer in our game, so we win a ranked game. Punter leading. the way. Gez, >> it's fun to be able to support. Very. excited about it. >> You're allowed to support. >> Well, I mean, I always was supporting. I. wore, trust me, I wore this during a a. bad loss. Not publicly. I wore it in my. house. >> Uh, how do you feel about maybe going to. Penn State? >> Uh, that I thought when I saw that.

picture, I was like, "Wow, that's on the. nose. That was a very on-nose photo.". Um, I don't know. Could be great. I. don't know. I mean, they they were. pretty they've been pretty good up. there. It's like that that's uh the. world that we're in now. Kind of where. we were, like doing really really good, just not winning national championships. And sometimes you try and make that jump. and it doesn't necessarily go that. smoothly. So, I mean, that's a tough. picture. Who who who's standing outside. of his house? Just.

>> Well, this is like Joe Judge when he had. all the pizza and beer after he got. fired. Feels like this is somebody on. the fired coach, fired Giants coach. beat. Go get a depressing terrible shot. of this person. So, we can run it and. make a very clever headline. Boom. We. already got it. Dabes and confused. We. just need the photo now. And if we could. get multiple shots of him maybe looking. a little bit lost, a little he got a. black eye, too. I don't know if he got. punched in the face there or if that's. just maybe a shadow there cuz he has. such a good uh such a good forehead. You. know, he's got good caveman like stuff. But nonetheless, let's move along to the.

takeaways from AQ Shipley, which Jage, we would like you. >> We're going to get there at some point. We are going to get to THE. >> TAKEWAY. HERE'S THE FIRST ONE. In the. top left corner of the UNITED STATES. MAP, MIKE MADMAN. MCDONALD. WHAT the hell does that mean, AQ? I just. said it pretty loud. >> It means every time I turn on the film, this guy is a mad man. He's an absolute. mastermind genius on the defensive side. Look at this clip right here. You got. split mug. You got the two backers mug.

They rock and roll the safety. Backer. does a nice job. Okuda sack. You never. know where the pressure is coming from. Let's go to the next clip. As you see. the next clip looks the exact same. Split mug. Rock and roll the safety. Let's bring the corner. Debbuts showed. this last week. Get the interception. Got him. >> Now this next one doesn't look crazy. 42. Simple, but you got two safeties. coming up. And as they come, it looks. like they're bringing four to left. Bail. everybody. bring from the right. Boom. Get to him. You never know where the.

pressure is coming from. >> Now, you were on the call for that game. Obviously, we respect and appreciate. Jacobe Brassette. We think he has a big. brain. JAGE, THIS MAD man. is a beast. We knew his defense was. probably going to be good. Offensively, they have Sam Darnold maybe on an MVP. pace at this particular point. Seattle's. turnaround pretty crazy though, and it's. all led seemingly by the defense in this. particular. >> Yes, it's it's been incredible. And I. actually have a question for AQ off of. those clips because it's something I was. planning on talking about this weekend.

because we have Todd BS. Um, when. everybody's up in the line of scrimmage. like that and you guys are trying to ID. who's coming and whatnot. I personally. feel like as a defensive guy, some of. us, myself included, have not done a. good enough job making our posture and. stance look like we're actually coming. And it can sometimes be easy for the. center to figure it out. Is it easy for. you to figure it out or are some guys. much better at it than others? >> Some guys are much better than others. There's no question about that. But like. the biggest thing is all about. identifying the bigs first. So in this.

one there's an overload. There's three. bigs to the right of this picture. Only. one big to the left. Then you got the. two backers mugged and the safety. So. now to to me that's Sam, Mike, and Will. all to the left. Now we have to figure. that out. How are we going to handle the. four down plus pick up one of those. backers, leave one for the back, and. then hot off hopefully the widest. I. think that's the biggest thing. It all. comes down to identifying and. communication. >> Where are the bigs? I guess what he's. looking for. Now, AJ, what's the key to. that? Not give away that you're not. coming, right? Cuz every offensive line. has to think that all of you are coming.

The cell is maybe the biggest part of. that defense there, AJ. And why do why. doesn't everybody do that, AJ? >> Everybody I mean, you could you try to. do it. You want to you want to look the. same every single time. No matter what. when whether you're you're coming or. you're not coming here, you want your. stance and your posture to be the same. And you got to hold it till the last. second. Yeah. If they think you're. coming and all of a sudden you're not. and you pull out then the quarterback if. you do it too early he's going to see. that and he knows bam he's going to hit. somebody he knows he has time but what's. happen like AQ okay are you guys. assuming that everybody might come here.

like hey worst case scenario everybody's. coming how do WE BLOCK THEM. >> EVERYBODY'S COMING. >> well you have I mean typically like you. can look at the DBs and the back end to. kind of have a feeling if it's going to. be cover zero the only way all of them. are going to be coming is if they bring. all seven right so I think that's the. biggest thing but the back end will tell. you when you got someone at 15 yards. Obviously, it's not cover zero. There's. going to be somebody pulling out. >> and you're trying to stop Buk there. You. know what I mean? You're trying to as. everybody is potentially. >> going to be coming there. That's all. you're trying to stop. >> And uh Jacobe Brassette has a lot of.

bowl and I think this is something. that's difficult. But debut back to what. I was trying to say there. Not every. defense can do this because not every. defense can do this, right? >> No, you I mean you need the players that. can do it. You need the players that can. cover in blitz like. >> Witherspoon for example. He can cover. any receiver out there and he is a great. blitzer. The rookie that they drafted. Amarari Emirari says. Yeah, he war. Yeah, he's he can cover. He can blitz. He can. So, when you have those body. types and those players that can do. multiple things, that's one thing. And. then when you put [ __ ] on film,

>> the offenses from the next upcoming. weeks, they got to prepare for it. So, you can show a different look and then. run something completely opposite. And. these these guys practice this stuff, too. This is something that's practiced. and talked about Monday through Saturday. and then you go out there and execute it. on Sunday. >> Okay, let's go to your next takeaway, your next talking point. Demarcus. doubles. >> Yeah. Well, this stud defensive end had. two touchdowns in the first 16 minutes. of the game in this game. But if you. look. >> Hold on though. Hold on though. Okay.

Your takes are starting to become Well, I'm watching a lot of these Arizona. Cardinals. I can start fitting. everything into that. Is that is that. what. >> Certainly Certainly not good for the. Arizona Cardinals right here. But you're. seeing it. Your eyes are on. We may We. need to make sure you're watching the. entire league here. >> We We are We'll get there. We'll get. We'll get to your team here in a sec. >> YES. THAT'S THAT'S ALL I'M TALKING. ABOUT. >> YEAH. THERE. WE'LL get there. We will. get there. >> Thank you. Thank you. >> But check this one out. So, they got. both safeties up on the right now. Demarcus Lawrence is going to go to the. A gap. So, he's going to go bypass the. guard. They pressure rush the mic. Now, watch Knight.

>> Boom. Right before Lawrence picks it up. Can't time it up any better. I mean, literally one millisecond forward. That's an incomplete pass. Times it up. Now, you thought that looked cool? Check. it out. They basically do the exact same. thing. Different blitz on the other. side. Now, we get a pick stunt. Linebacker up, pick the guard, Lawrence. around. Boom. Same exact play. Bounces. right through him. And all of a sudden, it's 21 to nothing in the in the second. quarter. >> And Demarcus doubles down. Uh J, what do. you see here from the Arizona Cardinal. offensive line or is this all Seattle.

Seahawks defense just putting them in an. absolute blender? I mean, the first. thing I saw was those two balls could. not have bounced any better. I've never. seen one bounce that cleanly to a guy. And both of them, he picked them up just. casually walking in stride. Wow. Um, but. no, unbelievable job. AQ did a really. good job dissecting both of those. blitzes and they're similar but. different in who's going to what gaps. And it's kind of like Debbut said. before, that's what makes it so hard to. prepare for is you put all this stuff on.

film and now on Thursday blitz pickup. day, you're spending half hour just. going through each blitz one time, not. even doing it multiple times. It's. brutal. >> So that's in your guys' world. In our. world, anytime somebody puts a fake on. film, like there'll be like a fake done. whenever the game's blown out. And fans. will say, "Well, why are you wasting. that on this particular game?" It's. like, "Well, would we call it in a. really close game? Maybe not." But they. have to prepare for this now. Absolutely. This is a waste of 5 minutes. maybe out of a 7 to 10 minute period on.

one particular day. They have a lot of. that and that's why uh it feels like. he's a madman. McDonald demon. >> Absolutely. And it's one thing about. executing it, but you got to get to. those points where you can. The first. one was on second and long and then the. second one was on third and long. So. like when you when you don't when you. win on first and second down, you can. kind of get the opportunity to drop. exotics or drop some special [ __ ]. because that's a tough down or distance. for offenses. So it's about doing the. basic stuff on first and second down so. you can get kind of exotic on the third.

down. >> Foxy, if you can go back to the first. clip too, right, they got both safeties. lined up to the right. And if you see. that both safeties to the right, this. Mike linebacker is not coming. He is not. meant to blitz. They are in an eightman. protection. and the guy that he has in. coverage recognizes that he is staying. into block and he adds on and that's. what happened. >> Oh, so that's a fuel situation there for. the mic as uh he say his guy's not. coming. So he says, "Guess what I'm. going to do? I'm going to come.". >> And then he comes good, don't he? And. then climax hits and then bang, Demarcus.

Lawrence gets his first touchdown of the. game. And guess what? That's not just. going to be the first. He He has another. climax a little bit later when he comes. Yeah. And again. >> and again and again. This guy's got the. juice. This guy's got sauce. He's got. the splooge. This guy comes all the. time. Now, let's go to the number one. takeaway. Yep. Warren, rookie of the year. Now, I've been. saying it for a long time. Tyler Warren. is the best player in football. And uh.

is that because he was our first round. draft pick and he looked super cool and. we saw him uh snap his neck and get. concussed and jump right back up with no. not even a a second hesitation in frozen. Notre Dame. Yes, that is potentially why. we're saying that. But also anytime. Danny Dimes needs something, he's. looking for one guy. Since game one, 84. feels like his guy. >> Absolutely. He's been fantastic and he. not only is great in the pass game, he's. great in the blocking game. He's great. I'm going to show a bunch of different. things, but right here, fourth and two, got to have it. Down three in the fourth.

quarter. Free hitter up the B gap. Let's. go to him. Makes the catch. Contested. Runs through it. First down. They go on. to tie the game to make it to go into. overtime. Now we look at the next play. This is in overtime. They've already. Atlanta's already had the ball. So now. Indie just needs a field goal to win. Who you going to go to? Yep. Run the. corner out between four defenders. Still. throwing it to him. Dime over the. shoulder. What a catch. >> Sauce Gardner actually looks at him on. silent goes, "Geez, I've never seen an. offense operate like this." He actually.

says that he's they have a miked up of. Sauce throughout the entire game. Zire's. miked up as well, a couple of the. others. It's like the vibes for the. Colts are immaculate. But also Sauce. just kind of falling in there being. like, >> I can't believe this is my life. After. the game, he's like, "This is my first. win. This is my first win." On the. sideline, he's like a couple times like, "I've never seen I didn't know offenses. could do this for teams that I played. for." He is living a high life. that. Warren catch right there right in front. of Sauce and you see Sauce like turn and. look in like amazement. I can't believe. that just happened especially cuz it's.

overtime now on this particular play. with Tyler Warren making an insane. catch. The person who made an insane. throw is the same person that. everybody's praying for his downfall. Danny Dimes in overtime need to make a. mid-range throw here on this spot in. coverage and he did. It's like Danny. Dimes is a different version of himself. Or maybe Danny Dimes is who he's always. been and the Colts are just putting him. in a spot to really uh showcase his. greatness, but Tyler Warren helps. And. we got a lot of weapons. >> You do have a lot of weapons. And if you. don't have Danny Dimes at quarterback, guess who you put at quarterback?

>> Tyler Warren. Boom. Of course. This is a. power read. They're going to pull. Quinton Nelson. This is only a two- yard. game. The reason I'm showing it is. because it's coming. You see him. following Quint Nelson. That is coming. That is coming. I'm just telling you. >> Everybody's coming. Everybody's coming. >> Everybody's coming. Look, it it felt. like Tyler Warren understands because. he's not the only one. That entire team, if you listen to that miked up, is. Jonathan Taylor's the best player in the. world. This guy's the best player on. planet. Give it to him. Everybody's. saying that to him. So, Tyler Warren's. at quarterback. I'm sure Shane Stikens. big takeaways are Brexen. Hey, you got.

the best player in the world jogging. right here. So, unless it is wide ass. open right in front of you, you go and. just hand that thing to Jonathan Taylor. and not let his heat. But on that note, I think he was too selfless. I think. he's supposed to keep that ball there. >> Probably was, but I think that's just a. setup cuz it's coming. It's coming down. the road. It's coming. It's on film now. >> It's on film. It's coming. >> Uh they released it via the NFL social. media account. Berlin was sick. I think. it was a sick setup and the Colts really. took advantage of it. I feel like Jage, I don't know how much you got to follow. along with Berlin.

The Colts really like Carly Ers was. buying beers for people. We were told. from a DJ uh our DJ source. >> says in Germany uh that she walked into. an event that was happening uh and. before getting on the microphone asked. the DJ, "Hey, how do I say let's [ __ ]. go in German?" DJ tells her, she says it. to the group. She buys beers. Kalin's. out there building a park out there. It's like it really felt like a home. game for the Indianapolis Colts over. there. And us being able to get to win. in overtime is gigantic. But I don't.

know how often you get to watch these. other games now that you're calling it. This was a great start to the Sunday. slate on Sunday, AJ or JJ, sorry. >> Yeah. No, we got to watch uh we were in. and out cuz we were preparing for our. game and this game was ending just as we. were getting into our pregame stuff. So, it was a very exciting game to watch and. then obviously Jonathan Taylor just. putting a capper on an unbelievable day. Like I mean I I know it's been talked. about many times but at this current. moment like if this guy wasn't the MVP.

of the league just just like 2014 just. like many times in the past last year. like just say it's a quarterback award. because nobody is doing what this guy. has done. No, it's unbelievable. And I saw it was uh graded out average. uh yesterday which is about par for the. course. So 244 yards and three. touchdowns apparently not that great but. whatever. >> Wait, what? Who said that? What was the. grade? >> I don't know. I was just tagging some. things that said that his grade was he. wasn't the highest graded player on his. team. I don't know how he's not the. highest grade player in the NFL.

Unbelievable. >> But who who graded it? Mark from. >> just I'm just I'm just sharing what I. have heard. That's all. >> No, but who who are you talking about. there? Who who who graded it? Because I. know there was a guy named Seth that did. some grading of a trade last week. I. think we found he had like 64 followers. on something but. >> was working for a company that had a big. platform. So Seth gave the Colts a D and. gave the Jets an April. >> There's only one grade that matters when. we cross open waters and that's if it. came from. >> McQuade.

McQuade. >> Is that who you're talking about? Are. you talking about McQuade grades? So. let's get actually to McUade. Was there. any stats about this Berlin game from. McUade that you got tied? >> Yes, there was lads. Uh to your point, Pat, about this being, you know, basically an Indianapolis Colts home. game. We know middle of the country, you. know, especi there there's so many fast. food restaurants. >> German accent. >> Do you not. >> Do you want to just shut the [ __ ] up and. just let me c cuz guess what? Like I'm. I'm trying to do this off the top. Okay.

And when you do stuff like that, that. makes me like now I forgot where I was. at. But let me get back. >> So you didn't get any McQuade stack. >> I did get a McQuade, too. It's okay. It's okay. It's okay. >> Yeah. McQuade is an Irishman. >> He is AN UGLY. >> YOU DON'T KNOW MCQUADE CUZ YOU OBVIOUSLY. HEARD HIM RIGHT HERE AGAIN. DID, but I. was very confused with the Berlin game. I was had the beer in my mind. I was all. over THE PLACE. THAT'S. not on the left. I screwed it up. Stand. up, man up. >> McQuade's in which one? Uh, >> he's the one on the right. >> Okay. Yeah, Jimes is the one on the left.

there. McUade was in Germany, Jage. So, just turn that big mic off for a moment. and let us get some McQuade. Don't touch. it, though, cuz that's even worse than. turning it off. Uh, Tai actually got. some stats from the man that was boots. on the ground in Germany. Back to your. McUade stats. Sorry about J. And Mcuade. >> Sorry about J. >> Well, McQuade actually loves J. Loves. him very, very much. Uh, he's was one of. the guys who was really pounding the. drum to get him into the Bull Ring of. Honor. I don't know if you knew that, J. You actually, it was kind of like an up.

in the air. Is he going to get in? McQuade was like, "Yeah, exactly. Kind. of like a, you know, 67, you know. I. don't know how they do that in Yland, but uh, he was kind of the one that. banged the drum. image. Hey, JJ needs to. be in the bowl ring of honor. But that's. neither here nor there. Uh, back to, you. know, your your comments about the. Colts. It was basically a home game. You. know, granted, it was in Berlin. It was, you know, thousands and thousands of. kilometers away, but it was it was. technically a home game for the. Indianapolis Colts. We all know a lot of. kind of heavier set fats who live in the.

Midwest. That's why there is a. McDonald's, you know, Burger King, that. kind of stuff on literally every corner. out here because they know, let's put. one of these in to test something out. the fats will flock to it and they will. eat it. If you if you saw I posted a. picture of the um the concessions prices. over there. This is kind of crazy lads, but it is true. Over 880. million kilometers in distance of Vener. Schwitzel. Okay. Was actually sold at. the game. They went back and checked.

>> You're saying snitle to schnitle. Tip to. tip. >> Yeah, tip to tip. could actually extend. it from the Olympia Stadio in Berlin. You could extend it all the way to Lucas. Oil Stadium. Uh it would have reached. and they they went back in and and. actually looked at the numbers a little. bit closer. Realized Colts fans. accounted for 84.6%. of the purchases. And that's not even. that's not even going into how much, you. know, beer was drank over there, lads. Uh well, we could do a what, but it. basically we're only selling beer, lads.

Uh, apparently Germans do not like mixed. cocktails as much as you know the the uh. United States fans do. But, you know, just an all allaround great day for the. Indianapolis Colts in Berlin and um. yeah, I think you can you saw the home. field advantage. They ate more Vener. Schnitle and in the end that's why they. won the game last. >> So, J, that's why you couldn't talk. Schnitles tip to tip from Berlin to. Indianapolis. 84.6% of them being eaten. by Colts fans. Is that right? Yeah, that.

is absolutely correct. They basically. they took snapshots of everyone who came. up to the concession stand and said, "Oh, that's a Colts hat. Oh, that's a. Colts hoodie." Uh, yep. Oh, that's a. that's a you know, a Colts wristband, >> a MAC jersey. There are actually quite a. few MAC jerseys over there, lads. That. was basically the first thing McUade. posted was a couple MCA jerseys. So, he. said, "Yeah, the Colts were out. representing big time lads. It was. really never a doubt as to whether or. not they were going to win this football. game.". >> J, anything? >> Phenomenal. Really proud. Really good. Sorry, I screwed it up.

>> See, now you ruin it again. That's two. times. You can't let one loss lead into. the next. You know, that's kind of the. issue. But let's talk about one loss. leading into the next. You got two teams. that are very good. Both coming off a. loss this weekend. Bucks Bills. There's. actually a good slate. Hey, the slate is. very good this particular Sunday, especially where we are in the season. You'll be on the Bucks Bills call. Both. teams need a win. What are we thinking. about both these teams with where they. sit right now? Obviously, everything's. still in front of both of them, but. there's a chance. You let a couple games. slide here. Hold the phone. J.

>> Yeah. Uh, I'm very much looking forward. to seeing these two teams kind of. they've been trying to bounce back and. figure it out for a few weeks. I mean, they started out 4-0 and 3 and 0. respectively and then each have dropped. a few games out of their last five and. last week both of them drop a game. So, they are, I believe it's two of three. teams to make the playoffs all the last. five years with the Chiefs being the. other one. So clearly both trying to. figure it out, find a way. Um, diving. into the film a little bit here today.

Bills run defense has been struggling a. little bit. Josh is getting sacked. I. think he's already been sacked more. times this year than he was all last. year. Um, and then obviously injuries. for for both teams a bit. Uh, the Bucks. really banged up, but very much enjoyed. watching Ibuka film today. And I've. never watched Vive up close and in. person, so I'm looking forward to that. as well. I mean, last week he was uh. they were talking about him because. other people were doing well against him. because of how good he is. He's fun. though, dude. They need to start getting. him the rock. Maybe maybe they start. getting him the ball on the offensive.

side. AJ has a question for you, J. >> Yeah, J pivoting. The Bears are playing. the Vikings. The Bears have a chance to. go seven and three. Caleb Williams, Ben. Johnson, their whole situation looks. like it's on the up and up, I guess. What's your thoughts on the Bears? Are. they a legit contender? And what about. the Vikings as well with JJ? Like what. does their future look like? Yeah, I. mean the Bears going into some of these. divisional games now is going to be. huge. I mean, a chance for them to go to. seven and three. We had them when they. did the when they played the Ravens a. few weeks back and thought there was. some things that they could have even.

done better in that game to give. themselves more of a chance. Um. especially against Snoop Huntley. That's. one of their losses, but they are. figuring something out. And just talking. to Ben Johnson, seeing what he's done. with this team and seeing what he's. trying to build and Caleb being able to. take that and grow week by week, you. have to imagine it's only going to. continue to get better for them. And if. they go into this and have success. against divisional opponent, um they're. really setting themselves up very nicely. and we have them against the Steelers in.

a couple weeks. So very excited to see. them again. >> Bears becoming a real thing. Ben. Johnson's culture settling in. Good, better, best. Never let it rest. >> Until your good is better. >> Till your better is best. >> Go Bears. I don't know if they do that. at the end, but it is pretty sick. They're all bought in. >> Has he taken his shirt off yet? I know. that was a big thing where like he gets. free hot dogs for the city. >> Ben Johnson takes his shirt off. He gets. free hot dogs for the city. Schnitle.

>> 886 million miles of it. Apparently, it. only reaches from Berlin to to Lucas. Oil. >> You saw him debating 886,000 or 886. million miles. >> When in doubt, you always got to. >> You always got to. >> Especially with Mcuade. >> Yeah, exactly. >> Especially with McUade's stats. Yeah. If. he takes his shirt off, everybody gets a. hot dog. >> I think I think it's hot dogs. I know. it's something. He can feed the city if. he There. Wow. Quick work. Nice job,

everybody. Bruce, if the wiener the. wiener circle says if Ben Johnson takes. his shirt off during or after any. Chicago Bears victory this year, it's. once again free hot dogs for the city. Hey Ben, you know what to do, buddy. Good, better, best. Let's see your chest. so they can eat dogs. That'll be the. best. I think that's what we need out. there. Let's move to another game that's. happening this weekend. AQ has a. question for you. >> Yeah, JJ. Seattle and the Rams play this. weekend. Arguably two of the best teams. in the National Football League. What. Matt Stafford's doing is incredible. Who. do you think is the better team between.

those two? >> I don't I don't know if there's much. arguing that these are two of the best. teams in the NFL. They are both playing. at an unbelievable level. I mean, we. talked about Stafford early in the year. with the injuries and training camp. Is. he okay? Is he a different human being? Uh he's playing like Matthew Stafford. He looks unreal. Uh clearly in the top. uh two three for MVP this year. Oh yeah. Um so that that offense is just humming. And of course, Shawn McVey is doing. things that are taking advantage of.

defenses with his 13 personnel and. putting people in positions where it's. advantageous for them. So, you need a. guy like Stafford who can take advantage. and he is. But then you go up against. the Seahawks and Mike McDonald who knows. everything and who is a defensive guru. and who knows that you know what he. knows. So, it's going to be a really. cool cat and mouse game between McVey. and McDonald this week and I can't wait. to catch up on it because I can't watch. it live. >> Yeah, we do know what they know about. what he knows and they know. So, that is.

something that is always a constant cat. mouse dog chase tail. Hey, we think he's. going to do this. Yeah, but if we do. this, he'll do this. That is something. that McDonald I think has already earned. from other offensive coordinators and. other coaches. And certainly with what. we just saw from your takeaways, they're. going to be special. Seahawks win a. Super Bowl. You think that, J? >> I certainly think they're in contention. for it. Um I mean. >> I'm saying I'm just saying the way they. play. So we talk we talk about teams. like um like hey that team can win a.

Super Bowl. It and I think it's very. obvious whatever like offense can win a. Super Bowl, defense can win a Super. Bowl, special teams can win a Super. Bowl. That's kind of what we're looking. at. We think teams are good. We're not. saying we don't think there's good. teams, but there's a couple teams that. we think can win a Super Bowl. Feels. like the Seattle Seahawks are one of. those teams, J. Yes, I would agree with. that. >> Seahawks in the first half, the last two. games. Here's a Hembo stat. Uh last two. games are against Washington, Arizona. Obviously, you know, you take it for. what it is. Plus 55 point differential, 69 to 14, plus 301 yards difference to. start the game. So, McDonald's got the.

boys ready to roll right off a jump. street. Same with Sam Darnold. Seattle. owns 11.4 points per game difference in. the first half the season versus their. opponents. The highest by any team in. either half since 2007 Patriots. Okay. So, starting fast. >> These are all scorer stats, so we can. trust them. We can respect them and we. know what they're saying. But that's. coaching, too, is it not? McDonald had. >> that felt that's what it feels like. You. turn on their games like yes uh Sunday I. turned on their game and it was like 28. to zero with 12 minutes left in the. second quarter and you're just like, is.

that right? Like, am I reading this. correctly? >> And then same uh same the other day. So, but what it does to the other team when. you jump out that fast, like you're. you're just playing catch-up immediately. and you're you're doing that thing that. you do in middle school. You're like, "Okay, well, if they scored 28 points in. in a quarter, we can score 28 points in. a quarter." And you're like, "No, you. freaking can't. Are you kidding me? They're they're that much better than. they could score 28 more next quarter.". >> It was 33 nothing, right, with the. Vikings and the Colts. >> Oh, yeah. Yeah. >> 33 nothing with the Vikings and the.

Colts. And we had somebody on, I forget. who it was, and they said that the. message was, "Hey, we get five stops. All we need is five stops.". >> Patrick Peterson. >> Patrick Peterson said, "Hey, all we need. is five stops on defensive side." And. then the off and then they lo and. beholden do it. But kind of to your. point, there are certainly outliers to. the situation, but if you're down four. scores seven years ago or in the first. quarter, I mean, you're in trouble. I I. mean, that is just immediate trouble. And the Seattle Seahawks have done it on. the road. They travel into your trap and. they beat the hell out of you. Very.

>> defense travels, baby. Run game and. defense travel. >> and Sam Darnold. I I think that is Sam. Darnold's traveling all over the. >> That's the only hesitation for a lot of. people out there. Even myself. >> What's the turnovers, too, right? >> You just It's the turnovers taking care. of the ball. But everything that we see. up until this point is great and I would. expect it to continue. But we look at. teams, we're like, "Okay, who can win. the Super Bowl?" We go straight to the. quarterback. And what's your faith level. on the biggest stage in the biggest. games in Sam Don? You got to see it to. believe it. Everybody got to win their. first one to go on their first run. Can.

he do it? It looks like he can, but uh. we got to see it. >> Last two games in Minnesota, everybody. said, "See, see see cuz they're playing. for the number one overall seed. He. didn't play his best game. That was. against the Detroit Lions. They made a. lot of people not play their best games. And in the playoffs, it wasn't great.". And they're like, "That's that's what. we're talking." They kind of want that. with Danny Dimes right now. >> Exactly. >> We had to question this with Stafford. when he went to the Rams. a lot of. people, okay, he can he can toss the. ball, he can make all the throws, but we. haven't seen him do it on that stage. until he did and he went and done it. So. now, no one obviously you don't have any. second guesses about him now, but you go. back to when he when they first made.

that trade and both teams have. definitely won that trade, we would. think, but we didn't we didn't believe. it. >> Let's continue the chat. >> I think that's the Daniel Jones and Sam. Darnold discussion for people like right. or wrong, I think both of those guys are. in that category where it's like we. they're playing unbelievable. Their. teams are unbelievable and everybody. looks at that Vikings game last year in. the playoffs and then they look at. Danny's first couple years in the league. and they say, "All right, I see it, but. can they do it right or wrong?" Whether. it's fair or not, that's definitely what. people say. >> Danny Dimes, remember overtime, dropped.

one and a thing. Danny Dimes, fourth. quarter, need one, fourth and two, put. one right on a spot. So, like in those. moments, Danny Dimes, hopefully we'll. fall back on those situations as well. going forward, but none of us will know. until we know. That's just kind of how. it is. And I think Daniel Jones and all. them are the same way. It's like, hey, we'll see. We'll see how this whole. thing go. Got to stay healthy. You got. to get lucky with health, all these. teams. Let's continue to chat about. these teams playing this weekend. Go. ahead, Ty. >> Yeah, J. What do you think about Lions. Eagles? Uh Eagles after that Monday.

night game, just ugly. But they did. enough. And you know, even with all the. external BS about their offense and guys. not getting the ball, they're still. winning games. And then Detroit. obviously looked much different after. Dan Campbell takes the reigns on offense. and they looked unbelievable. What do. you think about this one? >> Yeah, I mean the way that Detroit was. able to put up points and the way the. Eagles weren't I mean it was a defensive. battle Monday night, the Packers Eagles. and I'm a defensive guy and I love. playing defense very much. I just it it. for three and a half quarters wasn't the.

most enjoyable thing to watch as a. football fan. Um but it got crazy there. at the end. That means going for it on. the fourth and nine certainly a choice. Uh and then the fourth and one play by. the Packers or they fumble it at the end. also certainly a choice. Um but this. game should be a heavyweight battle. I. think it's going to be I mean two teams. at the very top of the NFC. I think if. you look at it immediately you say the. Detroit Lions are having an easier time. scoring points. So that would be the way.

that you would lean. But this is why we. play the games. I'm looking forward to. hopefully finding a way to watch it. again. I think this one I can watch. >> Best record in one possession games as. you thought AJ Hawk just died. He did. not. He's still there. Uh best record in. one possession games since 2022. This is. from Hembo. Eagles 29-7. >> Damn. >> Vikings 29-12. Steelers 26 and 12. Steelers fans will say we won that many. It feels like we're losing a lot of. those. And then Chiefs 24-12 in onep. possession games since 2022. Sirriani's.

got the boys buzzing. Yeah, always will. And that was a close, miserable game to. watch, but they end up winning, which is. kind of expected I feel like in those. games. >> Yeah, thank god we were at the Brigham. Brew, you know, having some bruise with. the boys down there with the Marines. But yeah, it was a tough game to watch, but you get a win in any way you can and. the Eagles take care of the football for. the most part and they they don't beat. themselves a lot of times. Going for it. on fourth and six late in the game was. definitely um a choice, but uh we'll. stick with this this weekend. >> What is your thought on that, Jage? What. is your thought? It would have been a 53. yard. Would have been a 53 yard. If you.

miss that, they get the ball to 43 down. three. Uh with. >> I was a punt. I I was a punt. Like I was. on team punt. I was trying to figure it. out. Uh and also in my personal opinion, if you're going for it in that. situation, I would have played the first. couple downs a little bit differently. Um because it the whole the whole. sequence there felt like they were. trying to run some clock and then they. were going to pin them and and make it. very tough. Um because the runs weren't. it's not like they were like turnurning. them out trying to get deep deeper. Uh,

and then they throw it up here and even. this it was kind of like uh he was. trying to catch it behind him with one. hand. Didn't necessarily go up there and. high point it or anything. It was it was. just a strange sequence and I I in that. situation with today's kickers in the. NFL with the kicking ball change and. everything and how good they've gotten. I would much rather pin him deep and. make them go a long way. >> I I don't want to just misquote him. because it was a few days ago. So, a lot. has happened. Okay. A lot has happened. since this quote. He said three or six. it doesn't matter. It's like it does. I.

think. >> certainly. >> I think it does. >> But if you But the kick there is is I. mean the kickers have gotten very good. It is still Lambo. It was still Wendy. windy. >> Like if you miss that one, you're. putting them almost directly like are. you on What were you on? Were you on. field goal side or were you on go for it. or punt? >> Uh I I So allegedly it came out that. that wasn't the play call. There was a. miscommunication on what the actual play. was supposed to be or what it was going. to be. Allegedly. I I think I saw some. reporting of that from different uh. local radio stations who maybe heard. some things. I think punt would have.

been a good play. I I think punt would. have been an okay play. Sucks for the. punter to have to punt from the 35, but. you could put them in the 10 or the. five. Obviously up three, you're in a. much better position than whatever's. going to happen there. Now granted, if. AJ Brown has that and they score a. touchdown, it's like this Colts team is. or this Eagles team is so cool. They run. dagger in the Super Bowl whenever they. and they connect on it and they win the. game. it almost becomes like a part of. their mentality. But because it doesn't. work and you give them the ball at the. 35 and we don't get any points on the. board when we're maybe in field goal. position, it just optically looks stupid.

from all angles whenever it doesn't. work. But if it works, you look like a. genius. Obviously, you know how football. is. >> Yeah. Right. I mean, ultimately it. doesn't matter. But given what the. Packers had done on offense the whole. night, like you would think, hey, we'd. much rather like let's put them inside. the 10. They haven't done anything. The. likelihood of them going 90 yards to. score a touchdown or even getting field. goal range at that point is obviously. much less than where they ended up. taking the ball over. >> Yeah, cuz they had gone for it on fourth. down a couple series earlier also if I'm. not mistaken. Oh, maybe it was the.

Packard one. Yeah, they both went for a. little earlier because nobody's moving. the ball. So, you're like, "All right, I. mean, if they're not going to move the. ball anyway, we might as well go for it. on fourth down." But I'm with you there. where I would much rather make them go. 90 yards than just whatever it was they. had to go. >> They would been down. They would have. been up three. So they would had to go. what? 50 yards if they pin them at the. 10. >> Well, with McManus's quad, you might. need to go 75 yards to get down in the. field goal range. >> You got close. >> He was this close on that first. >> He was the uh the the free the free. practice shot to see if we were in range.

or not. And then the attempt to get a. couple more yards was not a not a great. attempt to get a couple more yards, but. that was a cool little sequence. That. was. >> a little gamesmanship out of McManus. Obviously Siri was incredibly pissed. Normally the ref is diving like a hockey. player in front of a puck to stop that. snap literally because they made like a. rule or at least a point of emphasis on. it. I think it was while I was still in. the league because I I talked about this. the other day. Me, Vinnie, and Overton, we were stealing a kick anytime we could.

get one. So, if somebody's calling a. timeout, as soon as I hear that whistle, HEY, HEY, HEY, HEY, LET'S SNAP this. thing. Let's go ahead and see what this. is because everybody knows if you're. going to be able to get a read on. especially windy cold night like this, a. long one. Let's at least see one fly. So, the fact that the ref didn't How. about Jaylen? Go, what was what was. that? That's what Jaylen's asking right. there. >> I I apologize if you covered it, but if. you missed the first one, like a yard. and a half, two yards short. Is there is. there anything in your head like, "Oh, I. I can definitely find two yards." Or is. it like, "Oh, [ __ ] I got no shot.".

>> So, he tried to hit it a little bit. lower, I think, and that's why he hit it. fat. He pulled that thing pretty bad the. next one. So I I think he did think that. he had to hit it a little bit further. because I think he probably thought he. hit that first one pretty good. It went. straight. It was a super windy game. It. ends up about a half a yard short. So in. his head it's like, "All right, I got to. give it a little bit more." Is that ball. position where I strike it at or a swing. and everything like that. So I think he. tried to swing a little bit harder. He. hits it fat. That thing goes directly to. the left for his second attempt after. they tried to pick up some yards. So I. think he knew he had to hit it a little.

bit fat. Probably drive it a little bit. more. And as soon as you do that, it. just ends up hooking to the left. So, I. think maybe it hurt him. I think maybe. it hurt him because if that ref jumps in. front and he doesn't do that first one, is the first one going to be what his. kick is? And since it's actual game as. opposed to just timeout where he's. messing around, is there a little bit. more juice and that ball goes through? Did this backfire on Brandon McManis is. what my brain is kind of piecing. together right now? >> Well, we'll never know because Laflur. doesn't talk to the kicker at all. So he. he wouldn't have even, you know, been.

able to like go communicate with him. like, "Hey, you think you got this in. you?" Like he it just kind of whatever. McManis wanted to do, he was going to. end up being able to do. >> Con man, last question for Jage before. we let him go on this beautiful W. Wednesday. >> Yeah, J, we've kind of been talking. about today, but Joe Burrow being. designated to return off of IR. Debuck. kind of voiced the question. Do you even. play Joe Burrow with how bad the O line. is? With how bad the defense actually. historically bad defense. But here's. Burrow coming back off of the turf toe. surgery. Um, what do you think about.

this? Do you think the Bengals can make. a little bit of a run here if they, you. know, close out win, you know, six to. seven, seven to eight for the rest of. the season? >> I mean, I think it's, we always talk. about the same things with the Bengals. It always seems like we're talking about. the defense and the offensive line. Um, and I I've seen obviously the stats of. what Flaco's been able to do behind that. offensive line and make it happen, but. their defense just isn't putting them in. any situations. Obviously Trey. Hendrickson been out for a while. Um, but I I definitely don't put him out.

there until he's 100% healthy because. that's the guy that you want leading. this thing for the very long term and. you don't want to risk I don't I don't. think they're at a point right now where. it's like, hey, if he's 70%, let's throw. him out there and see what we can make. happen. I think that Flaco is. serviceable enough and does a good. enough job that it's not at that point. Um, but the that that's a tough. division. And the Ravens are clearly on. the rise again. Similar to last year, their defense is turning around a very. tough start into playing good ball.

again. Lamar's Lamar and then the. Steelers still sitting at top al albeit. fragilely at the moment. Um if they're. able to go out there and get that win, keep this thing rolling, but seems like. week to week they look like a different. team every week. >> Lamar Jackson missed practice uh today I. believe is what's being reported. Lamar. Jackson did not practice for the. Baltimore Ravens on this beautiful. Wednesday that we have. Uh Jameson. Hensley reported that the Ravens. quarterback Lamar Jackson's not. practicing Wednesday. He finished. Sunday's win at Minnesota but took some. hard hits. Ravens play at Browns on.

Sunday. Injury report comes out later. this afternoon. Could just be a Gday. Could just be a Gday. >> Oh yeah, >> that's what we're saying. >> I notic you're avoiding talking about. the rest of the AFC South today. I notic. you didn't you didn't want to talk about. really anything else going on in the AFC. South. >> Colts get a huge win. Colts get a huge. win. >> Big come. >> what else happened? >> Big big comebacks. Like huge comebacks. Crazy games. >> Like 26 points in the fourth quarter. comeback. Is that is that what you're. talking about? >> Yeah. >> Was that in America or was that.

international game? >> That was that was on home soil. >> Well, Germany. I I agree with what you're saying, but. just doing that good in Germany. >> Germany's cooler than America. Did you. just say that? Did you say Germany's. cooler than America? >> I did not say that. I I what I'm saying. is for the growth of the game talking. about the AFC South's Indianapolis Colts. is the right play. Okay, that's what I'm. saying. For the good of the game, what. you're saying is something historic. happened for the Houston Texans down 26. 26 nothing fourth quarter. We should. maybe say a little something. Is that.

what you're trying to say here, Jay? >> I mean, it's just you seem to be just. sliding over the second biggest comeback. in a team's history in a game that's. very impactful in the AFC South. It was. an insane game. They were down by 19 at. the start of the fourth quarter and even. on the broadcast where like that was we. thought that last ETN touchdown was the. dagger. I I said that was the nail in. the coffin and then lo and behold Nick. Haley calls great plays. Davis Mills. plays lights out some huge plays. It was.

uh it was a crazy fourth quarter in. Houston. >> How is it calling these types of games. because I saw the Texans are undefeated. with you on the call. I think. potentially the Steelers as well. That's. interesting. Don't know if we're uh you. know maybe bringing an aura or uh. information. Yeah. Don't know what's. going on here. >> Just the aura emanating from the booth. is just pure. Yeah. There's just the the. ability to control the game from row 74. on the 50 yard line is impeccable. So.

I'm I'm really pulling some strings up. there. >> What are your thoughts about the. Jacksonville Jaguars? Everybody. questions Trevor Lawrence. Is he a guy? Is he a guy? Is he a guy? Is he a guy? Uh Travis Hunter obviously down for the. season now with a torn LCL. How what are. your thoughts on the Jacksonville. Jaguars? They look like a much better. team this year than they have in the. past. Will it be enough? >> They do. I think it's very like the. Texans are the number one defense in the. NFL. So everybody struggles against. them. You're going to struggle against. them. It's going to be difficult. I. think their defense yesterday obviously. in the fourth quarter, I mean the final.

drive of the game, the Texans ran the. ball most of the drive on 93 yards all. the way down the field. Um, that's. something that you can't let happen on a. game-winning drive. And they weren't. able to get as much pressure as you. thought they would against that Texans. offensive line. So, Denil Hunter played. unbelievable. He took over that game. Three and a half sacks. Will Anderson. closed the game out. Um, but the Jaguars. are good. I think Liam Cohen is building. something good down there. I really do. And I think he's got a good system and. scheme. Doesn't help when you lose some.

of your best players. And I think Jacobe. Myers will help. They've had so many. drops this year. They're they drop more. footballs than anybody in the NFL. >> Is that because it's not a catchable. ball or what? >> It's a combo. Like it it really is a. combination. It's it compounds itself. because number one, if you throw it well. and the guy drops it, that's. frustrating. And then you throw it bad. So even when you do throw it good, then. it's getting dropped and it's just a. very frustrating situation overall. Which is why they brought in Jacobe who. literally caught a ball with his eyes. closed, which was insane. Like they. talked about how this guy can catch.

anything and obviously we've seen it, but to watch him catch a ball with his. eyes closed was crazy. >> The combination down there in. Jacksonville is certainly one that we. think will be good in the future. What's. the Travis Hunter experience going to be. in the future, J? >> I do not know. I mean, it's really. unfortunate. He's been able to do it in. college for a long time playing both. ways. I think we all had our questions. about would he be able to do that at. this level, you know, and unfortunately. those questions at the current moment. point to no. We all want it to be yes,

but I I I just don't see how you could. possibly play both ways for a long. period of time in the NFL. It's so damn. hard, man. It is so hard. >> Every position is difficult. So, having. two of them would be an insane feat. Hopefully, Travis still tries to do. that. And we would like to wish him. nothing but the best as he recovers from. his surgery. And uh Jage, we appreciate. the hell out of you. This weekend should. be epic between the Bucks and the Bills. We can't wait to listen. >> Have fun in Pittsburgh, guys. That's. going to be awesome. I'm looking forward. to seeing that. Have fun back home. It's.

going to be crazy. >> I was looking West Virginia and. Wisconsin not in a 12 team playoff. Shame. >> Ah, man. I thought we might have snuck. up in there with our ranked win this. week. >> Yeah, >> we stormed the field. That was uh love I. I'm Celebrate whenever you can. celebrate. I love it. But uh that's. we only stormed it once when I was there. and that was against Ohio State and then. actually a second time when we went to. the Rose Bowl. So. >> So you like it or you don't like it? >> Celebrate to celebrate. Be a friend, tell a friend, tell somebody you love.

them. >> All right. Not bad. Kind of botched it, but you kind of made your own there. That was pretty good. I And it was right. on time. Great work out of you. That was. that was a good sense, >> bro. >> That was really good. I mean, nowhere. near what I say, but like it was. >> No, it's dear friend. Tell a friend. >> All right, man. It's what you said. You. said be a friend. Tell a friend you love. him. Goodbye. >> I said be a friend. Tell a friend. something nice. It might change your. life. >> Oh, yeah. Damn. Damn. That wasn't even. close. >> No, you were there. You made a new one. Be a friend. Tell them you love them.

>> Yeah, that's good. >> Yeah. >> I don't think we tell people we love. them enough. I don't I think like. >> friends, everybody should be. >> Yeah. I love you guys. I really. appreciate I love you guys. I appreciate. the daily entertainment, the laughs, the. inspiration. There's a lot There's a lot. here that I I take away from this every. week and from watching from afar. >> Wow. >> Motivation from how hard you guys work. and how much you do every week. It's. pretty It is incredible. I think people. give you credit, but I don't know if. they say it enough. It's pretty.

unbelievable how much time and energy. you pour into all this stuff. >> That was really nice. Be a friend. Tell. a friend something nice. You might. change You just changed my life. You. just changed our life, right? Yeah. Hey, we want to let you know we love you too, J. We love watching games with you, too. We appreciate the hell out of you. You're the man. >> Thanks, guys. I appreciate it very much. >> Ladies and gentlemen, he's going to go. get his second workout in for today. It's JJ Watt. Thank you, J. >> Very kind of him. >> What a guy. >> Yeah. >> Not a lot of that being said the last 24. hours.

>> Pretty good. Pretty good veterans. program though, >> I'd say. I'd say so. What how about the. weather? Like con man mentioned in the. show like not a cloud in the sky. What a. very weirdly temperatureed beautiful. day. >> Yeah, very weirdly temperatured. Uh I. don't think they were used to how cold. it I think it was unseasonably cold is. what they would say. And uh. the new marine lads that had to sit in. the shade. >> it was a 15 to 20 degree difference. Oh. yeah. At least. >> And then the wind would come it was like.

25 30°ree difference. I I mean it was a. uh it was a lot chillier than we could. have imagined when we uh saw the SC. You. know, I saw South Carolina. I'm like. tank top for sure. I had shorts and a. tank top. The reason why I was wearing. that shirt, not only because it's sick, it was really the only long sleeve shirt. that I had. The night before I was. wearing Oregon Ducks jacket, only jacket. I had because it just so happened to be. on the bus from the trip to Oregon. So, it's like shout out to coach Dan Landing. in Oregon because if it wasn't for you. guys, I would have been frostbit I think.

on uh Monday night around campus or. around uh the base. >> The brick and brew was special. You're. playing pool. You said you were playing. pool against some of the boys. >> Yeah, me and me and uh Bruce got on the. table. Got a couple games in. >> How'd it go? You got put the quarter on. top of the thing like old old school. like the whole thing? >> No, we didn't do that. But uh a couple. couple of the Marines were over there. playing too and we just got over there. had downs, you know, waiting. We got on. the table, won our first game. Uh kind. of playing twos. So 2v2 alternate shot. >> Yeah. Bruce Bruce got hot. He got hot. the second game. Boom. One in.

>> Two in. Three in. >> Scratch on the eightball. >> You guys lost. >> Yeah. Lost the second game. Everybody. just stopped playing. Just killed the. whole vibe. >> A Bruce, you brought him to life and put. him to sleep. I like what you did over. there. Uh, I guess the Brig and Brew not. normally very active there because it's. on base obviously and everybody has like. really really really really really. serious jobs. To be there for the 250th. birthday in on the in the Brig and Brew. on Paris Island was a crazy just happen.

stance. Yeah. Like it all coming. together perfectly and then you know I. wasn't going to be able to get out of. there. Not that I wanted to. >> Had chuck some beers with the boys and. uh URA. We certainly did that. Danlovsky's URA worse than AJ's. Yep. >> Have we gotten a final vote on that or. no? I. >> I'll throw mine in the uh ring as dinner. loss. He's worse. >> Wor worst of the day. >> I'd say yeah, I was second worst. I I. would vote on that. I would say that. >> No, but you had one though. Remember. >> one good one? Yeah. >> Dan had one on the way out, too. Go on.

the way out. >> But his AirPods are kind of. >> Yeah, I can't blame that on the. quarterback. >> Muting him so they mute him when he. yells. Is that Are they They're designed. to do that. >> That was weird. So I think it picks up. one sound. So when you get too loud, maybe it picks up another sound. Like it. tries to cut out the shitty sounding. sounds. >> Yeah, >> that's what AirPods doing. So you start. yelling it's like what? No way are we. doing that. And then it's like Danloski, I guess, doesn't have the voice of a. song bird. I I I'd assume if Luke Comb. starts yelling, that AirPod turns it up. Actually, >> let's go ahead and hear that thing. Dan.

Olowski starts yelling, that thing goes, "Nope, not [ __ ] doing that one. No. way." So I guess it is a little bit of. treason from the airpod on Dowski for. himself. But yesterday was epic. >> Yeah, >> it was epic. >> Legit. front of that statue. >> Look at the sky, man. >> Yeah, >> that's a great picture. >> Yeah, it's really really. >> doing drills behind us. >> And everybody will um find it. interesting that for that photo, AJ was. the last guy up on stage to take photo. because he was meeting with a couple DI.

from Ohio. And that that was very cool. of you, AJ. We clearly had the middle of. the photo kind of separated so that we. could see the statue of Euima. AJ jumps. up onto the stage, goes right to the. middle, big arms. Bring it together, boys. Standing right in front of that. statue. Just right there. And we got. like we knew each other. >> AJ, get your ass out of the way, dude. Oh, yep. Yep. Oh, yep. Oh, a lot of. those. Oh, yeah. >> That was on me. Yeah, that was on me. >> It was awesome. In the in the fatigues. right next to me, Bobby Yarro. Uh I.

believe he's coming up on retirement. soon. He was enlisted and then he became. an officer and he's a part of like I. don't know his official title so I'm not. even gonna try to do it. Huge part of. our show happening there. Uh and to my. left there is first sergeant Gartland. He was 22 years as a marine. He was uh. eight years as a DI. Spent a lot of time. at Paris Island as a drill instructor. and also working in the airfield that. they have there, the active airfield. that happens at Paris Island. So we were. taken care of down there. And I said. this at the beginning of the show. I.

didn't think it was going to happen. Like the idea, the concept comes about. about a month ago, whatever. We're. chatting about it. Sounds epic. Sounds. awesome. Uh, hey, you're going to be. able to do this. You're going to be able. to do this. I'm like, cool, cool. First. show ever on Paris Island. We'll be the. only show on a base during Veterans Day. And with the government shutdown and. kind of everything else and with Paris. Island and the world how it is right. now, I I thought there was a chance the. show was not going to happen. So did not. get hopes up too much about show just. kind of like in this in this business.

>> right. >> in this business like a lot of things. are talked about and then they don't. happen you know and at the beginning of. our entire run I think I would get. excited for everything and then it. wouldn't happen and I'm like well just. like defeated. So now I'm very much like. probably not going to happen so let's. just kind of assume that it's not going. to take place and then on Monday after. the Sunday stage gets set it's like hey. this is happening for sure. Bobby Yarro. was a huge piece of that like literally. calling Washington because there were. some people in Washington I guess that. found out that maybe were like this is. not a good look we shouldn't do this.

yada yada yada you nail you name it in. different departments so he's a huge. aspect Sergeant Major and his team had. to come out and say yes we definitely. would like them there because obviously. the Marines control the recruit depot. down there at Paris Island uh the. commanding officer down there uh he also. had to come out and say yes we were. there so there was like the amount of. people that had to say yes again this. past like four days before this all. started and went to bat for us to do. this. So incredibly cool and all we. wanted to do was make an epic Veterans. Day show like just because we understood.

how lucky we were to be doing it. So. yeah, from beginning to end it was an. outer body experience basically and we. just wanted to go ahead and showcase the. hell out of that place and the people. and uh I think we pulled it off. I I I I. am very proud of the messaging and uh. hopefully the younger vets got the. messaging about the VA trying to be a. little different VA than years past. trying to help and uh it was a special. day and that's a sick photo. I mean. that's something major of the Marines. They're at attention while the Marines. him is being played by the Paris Island.

Marines uh band as he's walking down. Boulevard to France. So we showed that. sign we make Marines a couple different. times. The reason why that sign is so. important, uh, that Boulevard to France. is the end of their Crucible. Crucible. is the last 54 hours of their 13 or. their 12week, I guess, boot camp, and it. ends with a 12mi hike. So, they haven't. slept in three days and then they have. to go on a 12mi hike. The end of the. 12-mi hike comes underneath that we make.

Marine sign down the boulevard to. France, right behind us onto that parade. deck, and then they are made Marines. So. every Marine that has ever come through. Paris Island basically is ann. So that. is the final walk basically as a recruit. before they become a Marine. So us even. being able to be on this street or have. be a part of anything is a massive. ordeal. Let alone setting up our stage. right in front of the Ewajima statue. which after they get their Eagle Globe. and anchor uh pin, they go over there. and kind of learn about the Marines that.

they're chasing. So, it's like we were. in the middle of a lot of very very epic. and important and crucial and historic. and emotional things for all the Marines. and uh the day after their 250th. birthday on Veterans Day for us to be. there the way they treated us. We were. so lucky and we hope we did it some. justice. We hope we did tried my. absolute best. Lot of phone calls on. Monday to a lot of people. >> Yeah. >> Two presidents. Two presidents. >> calling on Monday. >> A little late for the plane to head down. to Paris Island. I apologize. Who are.

you on the phone with? President Obama's. people. Yeah, I'm trying to get a a. video from President Obama. And then. right before that, I was talking to uh. President Trump's people because I I'm. trying to get a video. That's how that. started. I was just looking to get a. video. I was just looking to get a video. from all these people because I assumed. in such a quick turnaround time like, "Hey, could you guys just make a video. kind of where the league what you guys. think of veterans and what Veterans Day. means to you and everything like that?". And they were like, "Yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep. Let's get to. it." And um uh President Trump's people.

uh called to ask for some more. information and uh I was like, "Yeah, just looking for a video." They're like, "If he was able to come on the show, would that be okay?". >> Yeah. Yeah. We could uh Yeah. If the. commander. >> bump somebody. Yeah, we'll bump some. people. >> If the commander chief wants to come. Yeah. >> Yeah, we we would certainly do that. All. right. He'll do a phone call or. something like that. It's like we've. never done a Okay. Yeah, no problem. I'll hang up the phone. Uh. I think President Trump's coming on the.

show tomorrow. He wants to do a phone call. Can we do a phone call? Yeah, we can do. a phone call. We'll figure it out. Sweet. We don't want to do a phone call. though. So I call back to the person. Phone call. Not cool. Everybody's going. to think it's an impressionist. Don't we. think maybe a Zoom or Face? We'll do a. call. We'll do a phone call. Okay. Yep. You got it. Call back one more time. Hey, have we thought about Zoom? Zoom. We make it easy. Maybe, you know, we can. kind of do this entire thing. Yeah, he'll be calling in. Yeah, we'll do a. phone call. Hey, you got it. Hey, I. don't need to be We hang up that phone.

and then on the phone for now on the. phone cuz I know what it's going to be. like. It's like I tell President Obama's. like, "Hey, we do have President Trump. doing something at that point. He's. coming like is there any So, I try I. legitimat I would like and they tried. too. I think President Obama's people. tried as well, but it was such a quick. turnaround. So, it's like there's a lot. of people very very mad right now and I. understand that. But I think you should. turn your focus on like, hey, the head. person of our military stopped by to. spotlight Veterans Day so that maybe we. can give a little bit more love to the.

people that serve this country. So, you. know, that is uh that is kind of a. balance that we are always trying to do. And I saw a lot of people say like, uh, did you get permission to do that. enough? >> Okay. I'm an adult who owns my company. >> What does that mean? What does that even. mean? I don't I don't understand the. question. >> Exactly. I saw a lot of people like, "Hey, whoever gave permission to do. this, it's like, uh, >> who are you asking? Who are you asking. permission? >> I don't even know how that would work. I. don't I don't even know how that Hey, I. was wondering with my show that I own. that I control full credit if you like I.

don't even know how that would work. Honestly, I try to be a good partner. Obviously, they're licensing our show. just like the NFL is trying to be a good. partner. NBA is trying to be a good. partner. Inside the NBA is trying to be. a good partner. Whenever somebody. licenses your show, you're trying to be. a good partner obviously and you're. trying to provide good content. You. would like to have success so that they. have success so we have success. But. just like whoever let this happen, it's. like [ __ ] enough of that. Okay, let's. get to a break. On the other side, Stanford Steve will be joining us to. chitchat about the College Football. Playoff Committee's prediction of what.

the playoff would look like right now. and everything else happening around the. College Football World, which is huge. this weekend. Be a friend, tell a friend. something nice. It might change their. life. Take Faith Faith. >> Hey Pat and gang, it's good to be with. you today. I just want to say thanks for. all those folks. I know you're down at. Paris Island. Those young uh veterans. are going to be coming through. There. are veterans, but they're just getting. started right now. Young people all. across this country, if you've served in. the military, we want you to know that. when you get out of the military, no. matter how long you serve, there are. veterans benefits that you've earned.

Make sure that you find out about those. They can help you get started with a new. home. They can help you get started in. business. They can send you to school or. get vocational training. Look, this. isn't about the old stuffy VA that you. heard about from your from your. relatives, your parents. This is about a. VA that's focused on one thing and one. thing only. That's our our veteran. So, you know that you're out there. We love. you. We support you. This secretary. wants you to know these benefits are for. you. Don't let them for somebody else. They're there for you and the service. that you did. You raised your right. hand. Now, let us raise our hand and. serve you. Pat, y'all have a great day.

down there. >> Jack, you got anything to say to the. team here? >> Oh, man. You guys keep crushing and. firing everybody up. It's bigger than. you guys. And you guys are the freaking. best. >> Boom. >> Thank you, Jack. >> That's amazing. >> YES. >> GOD DAMN IT. I NEED THAT ONE. I got back in shape. Best shape of my. life. I felt like I just throw people. through walls. Oh [ __ ] What's. happening?

>> What the [ __ ] is this? >> We interrupt your regular programming. with breaking news. >> We have reports of a UAP approaching. Indianapolis. They have messaged to. officials they are coming to take over. the world. Government agencies have been. alerted that they plan to land and. activate Earth's Armageddon switch. >> This is literally the scariest situation. imaginable. A true doomsday scenario. Please stay calm, seek shelter. immediately, and pray to whatever god or.

higher power you believe in. >> Was that what landed here? >> I think Indianapolis. What? So that. can't be. >> We got to go find these [ __ ]. >> Yeah, >> that's what we need to do. I think that. sounds like something you should have. with Jack Carr yet. >> I don't know. We need to. >> Let's go. Come on. Let's go. >> All right. Let's go. Yeah.

>> [ __ ] these pieces of [ __ ]. Oh, there it is. That [ __ ] It's. here. It's here. It's the button. >> Yeah, it is. >> Oh, hey, do you have a rifle? No. I got something better. I got. something better.

>> Jack, I've been saving this. >> What? >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> What is this thing? This for a rifle. What is this? Yeah, it uh it kills. aliens. Yeah, I bought it online. Deep. web. >> That's certainly convenient for us. All. right, here we go. >> Hey, will you be my spotter? >> Oh my god. It'd be my honor. Let's go. kill these [ __ ]. >> Let's do this. >> Where are they? >> I don't know. I think they're coming. Yeah, I said they might be coming from. right over here. >> Yeah. Yeah, it looks like I see their. [ __ ] ship. Let's go. They're not. going to get to that button, Jack. >> Nope, they will not get to that button.

Is that one of them? >> Yeah. Black helmet, car heart, khaki. He's walking right at you. GO AHEAD AND. PEPP. YEP. YEP. YEP. THAT'S IT, JACK. CARR. THAT'S IT, JACK CARR. YOU KILLED. THAT SON OF A [ __ ]. >> OH, there's another one. He looks exact. same. A little taller. A little bit more.

awkward. >> More awkward. Yeah. Yeah, he's in the. same spot though. Go ahead and get him. Go ahead, get him. GO AHEAD. YEAH, THERE. HE IS. GOOD HIT, JACK. >> TWO DOWN. TWO DOWN. >> TWO DOWN ALIENS. NOT ON OUR WATCH. >> OH, he came down backwards. This one. showing you his back. No respect. >> No respect. Kind of a disrespectful. alien here as he drags his carcass.

around. Looks different. OH, ALL THREE. OF THEM STACKED UP. >> JACK CAR SLAYING ALIENS. >> OH, there's one more. >> IT'S A BIG ONE. >> OH, HE LOOKS LIKE an eater. >> HE IS AN EATER. >> OH, MAN. >> THIS MUST BE their supreme commander. Look at the size. HE'S LOOKING AT YOU, JACK. HE'S COMING AT YOU, JACK. HE'S. COMING AT US, ZACK. GET HIS BIG ASS.

BACK. BOOM. THIS GUY'S TRYING TO TAKE. DOWN OUR PLANET. GO THE [ __ ] OUT. That's it, Jack. GO BACK TO WHERE YOU CAME FROM, YOU SACK. OF [ __ ].

HEY, good work, dude. Amazing. >> That was awesome day. I mean, they were. going to [ __ ] come in here. I mean, they just popped up and then you just. shot him right in the [ __ ] head. >> I don't know. Good thing we saw that. newscast when we did. >> Well, that's the that's why they do the. live alert. >> I don't know. Did we know that? But. that's still. >> I feel like that should have been. disclosed when we bought this place. >> The legit. >> Let's go and talk to the boys. >> Amazing. Let's do it. >> What a life you live, >> man. I'm just glad you had this rifle. and I had those binos. What are the odds.

of that? >> I mean, I could see them. >> Good thing I carry those with me. everywhere I go. >> The big one at the end really ate some. [ __ ] pain. >> Yeah. I feel like he stopped somewhere. on the way in. >> Yes, he did. Yes, he did. >> Are we Are we good? >> What do you think, boys? [ __ ] Jack. Cars here.

If that's not enough reason to buy his. new book, I don't know what is. [ __ ]. just saved the earth and nobody would. have known about it if it didn't just so. happen to happen right here with all. these cameras. >> Thank you, Jack Carr. Thank you, Jack. Carr. >> Thank you, Jack. >> Thank you, Jack. >> Thanks, guys. Thank you guys. >> Three-time world saver Jack Carr has.

done it again. We're all mind blown that. a global attack always seemingly happens. when Jack Carr comes to the Thunderdome, but boy, we're thankful he's always. there to save us all. On that note, Jack. Carr's new book, Cry Havoc, is available. now. It's a Vietnam era thriller in the. eighth installment of the multiple time. New York Times bestselling series, Terminal List. Hell yeah, Jack Carr. Hell yeah. >> Hey, let's go.

>> This show sticks and the fact that you. listen, we are very, very thankful for. >> McAfee on the line with a gorgeous. assist. >> The alltime leading tackler for the. Green Bay Packers. You. stop. Damn it. >> Be a friend. Tell a friend something. nice could change their life. sport. Hello beautiful people and welcome back. to our hug of the bow the thunder on.

this what Wednesday November 12th 2025. hour three of the program begins now. football. >> it's magical that's AJ Hawk the toxic. tables here at Boston Conor and that's. Tai Schmidt 9-year NFL vet host of. everything DB good D bad D which will. debut this week's episode in a matter of. about 30 minutes or so Darius Jay Butler. is here super cool hoodie. >> thank you thank you for a little pop of. color today. >> So, so for me, wearing um like a a. lighter color, what would that be.

called? The uh that that series of. colors. >> Pastel. >> Pastel. Pastel. That's a summer thing. for me. I I I wear in the summer. I want. to let you know, you look so cool in. that thing. >> I'll wear anytime. >> Yeah. Anytime. >> Anytime, man. >> For me, I I I don't look good with those. colors there certain times of year, you. know, cuz I a little fatter. >> A little fatter. They start seeing it. >> You look good. You look good. right now. science seems to be working I will say. and also pretty busy schedule tough to. kind of uh. >> you know find time to either eat or not.

be. turns out that's not necessarily great. for the body but starting to look a. little better shirts a little bit too. big pants a little bit too big belts a. little bit too big and when you wear. those [ __ ] belt buckles like I do you. know those come with special belt you. need a special belt for that thing all. these belts too. >> I'm finding a nail in my bus on Saturday. mornings trying to put a new hole in the. belt stink. >> in the belt is lever lever. So I first. one I took like a pen and I was like. jamming it in there not working. I'm. like what do I need to do here? So I get.

a nail actually and I'm like I'll I'll. thumb it through here. I'll thumb it. through this thing. Yeah, right. Had to. find a hammer from person down street. Yeah. Uh worker right down the street. Hey, can I borrow a hammer real quick? Uh. >> yeah. Are you When will I get it? I just. need to go do a belt thing. Yep. Take. hammer. right into the desk. right into the desk. >> Had to use the back of the thing, obviously. >> Pull that [ __ ] out.

>> Pull that thing out. Got a hole in the. belt and the desk now. And I'll tell. you, I don't think it was in the right. spot either. I think I needed it a. little deeper. Yeah. So, we are If. anybody has an answer to that that is. better than that, I'm looking for it cuz. that I I don't know if you're supposed. to hold it on something and then pull it. out and then put the like how am I think. I need a machine cuz it's has to be on. something and I'm always going to put a. hole in that [ __ ] thing. I I mean, I. don't know how to be able to get through. it. >> Concrete. Do it on a concrete or. something.

>> or a fence. >> or somebody else's workbench. >> Yeah. >> You just need to go find a workbench. Yeah. I mean, >> maybe get one added onto the bus or. workbench in case you. >> have that thing fold down. >> Yeah, maybe I do need that. Could just. get a new belt, but no, let's let's. build. >> door a couple belts. Could Door Dash a. few belts, too. >> Yeah, but of course, I'm very I look. ahead and I prepare for everything, you. know? I'm a super look ahead, prepare. for the future guy. Let's set let's set.

a time for that and let's execute on. that. So, I'm not finding that out until. what, 40 minutes before this thing. starts because that thing's that's first. time that thing's been around my waist. since last week. >> Wait a minute. I'm starting to disappear. here. I think that's a good thing. But. in this particular moment was terrible. last week. Couldn't figure it out. Belt. was just gigantic. I mean, it was just. sitting up there. I could have been I. could have been doing this with that. belt if I wanted to. Just kind of. pull-ups on things. So, that's a fun. little game happening within the game. day uh game that I'm having on. Saturdays. A man who has experienced. something very similar. We've seen him.

about 700 lb lighter than he is right. now. And we've seen him about 100 pounds. heavier than he is right now. Ladies and. gentlemen, Moon Township's uh greatest. >> No, >> I was going to say. >> second greatest export, ladies and. gentlemen. A ship. >> That's why I keep wearing the same pair. of khaki pants cuz I gave them all away. when I lost the weight to Goodwill. I. only got one pair that fits anymore. Well, they say if you keep the um the. closet at a fit size, it'll motivate you. to stay in shape. I don't think that's. real.

>> No, clearly. >> I don't think that's really for you. You. don't think so either? Yeah. I think. you're living it right now. You just got. to have two different closets, I think. And that's probably what you have done. for most of your life. >> Yeah, that would have been smarter. But. I uh I gave it all away and now here I. am. I'm This shirt's from about 2012. >> You're too good of a guy. You only have. a certain amount of clothes because you. gave it all away. This guy went to. Goodwill. >> Mhm. Yeah. Yeah. gave it all away. >> Thank you, AQ. >> Thank you. >> Did you try to sell it at the Play It. Against Sports? You remember when they. were doing that? >> Love that place. >> I love spot. Grew up on that place. >> Me, too.

>> What? >> Play against. >> They sell new stuff, too. They actually. sell some new stuff. >> Okay. So, did you sell stuff to play it. against? >> No. Never. Never sold anything. Uh. either went there cuz I was a little. bigger than my older brother. So, most. of the time the hand-me-down stuff that. didn't fit me, played against sports. Let's hit it. >> I was so excited for that place whenever. it came about. I'm like, "All right, I. just need to get stuff." And this place. will give me money. Okay, that's good. news. >> A brick and mortar player. >> I get my hands on a ball. Yeah, store. >> You don't know what it is, D but they. don't have it down there. I think maybe. I I feel like I've heard the name, but I. I can't never w.

>> in my recollection if I'm thinking of. the right store cuz I think there was a. clothing as one of these stores as well. where you could take your [ __ ] back. basically and they buy it off you and. then they're going to resell it. >> My sister's closet I think is the one. you're talking the clothing one. >> Okay. So that's clothing one. Then the. sports had one. So yeah, it was like a. little in my eyes. I was like, "Yes, I. just got to find stuff to be able to. sell these people." And you bring in. their uh this this ball right here, original price, let's say 20 bucks. They. got 50 cents for you. It was like you're. watching pawn stars all over GameStop. >> Yeah. Before it was like, I'm not.

selling [ __ ] to these guys. Why am I. wasting my time driving all the way over. here? But to your point, I think it had. a lot of stuff in there. Like playing. against sports had a lot of stuff in. there. >> and every single sport. Like there there. wasn't one uh different type of like. basketball shoe, hockey skate, baseball. mitt, basically everything that you. could possibly want. Yeah. >> Like this might actually be in there. This the hurling ball from I So it was a. cool place, but I thought it was going. to be a much better hustle. Anyways, you. need to go to play it against sports it. sounds like. And I hope you get it. figured out cuz you look amazing. But.

you said you're going to lose a bunch of. weight. You're going to do some science. >> Oh yeah. 30 pounds. >> You're going to get on science. You're. going to call the people at affinity or. what are you going to do? >> I got my own people. I don't know if. they're the affinity people though, brother. I'm going to let you know that. I don't know. >> You might be right. Where are the. affinity people? >> Yeah. Everywhere. >> Carry your big pants around to motivate. you. Someone used to do that. >> You mean did this? >> Mhm. >> That was not good for America when it. all went down. And as somebody who lives. here in Indianapolis, those choppers. were out in abundance.

>> Do you know who you're talking about? >> Papa John, right? >> Was uh. >> No, no choppers or pants. Yeah, I think. we were just Yeah, we just getting out. soon. >> One of those places. >> You did? >> Uh, we were near one. We all were. >> Yeah, we were. We did see one. >> Not me. >> Yeah, we were. Yeah, it was. >> You just didn't have your eyes open. But. yeah, >> there was one on base. >> No, I didn't see one of those. >> Yeah, that's all Debone talked about the. entire time. How bad how bad he wanted. to go go grab one. >> Mhm. >> Are we see what he wanted a Subway.

sandwich? >> Zo as well. Zo mentioned it like 40. times. >> What was it going to go get over there? Just ham and bread. That's what Debo. wanted. Just ham and bread. >> What about the bigger meteor tastier? They hit a pretty good run with the BMT. there for a while. I'll tell you what, when I saw that fatso lose that weight. >> Mhm. >> I'm a sandwich guy. >> Debo. >> Did he lose weight? >> No. That's why I was so confused. >> Oh, okay. Cuz I thought maybe we had a.

new debone. >> No. No. >> What's that? >> No, we didn't. We didn't have a new. debone. He He literally. >> And you guys held him back from maybe. being the Cuz. >> Jared Fogle is who is being talked about. right now. >> Oh, >> okay. He's in Indianapolis. Indiana was. with Subway. >> That's right. >> That's who I was talking about. Tony, you knew that's who I was talking about. >> Thank you for clearing that up. >> I'm actually not sure. >> AJ's pen pals. Ask him. >> AJ, you wrote him a letter in jail. That's crazy. But nonetheless, when I. saw that happen, when I saw that fatso.

become a skinnier person from eating. sandwiches as a guy that sandwiches my. favorite. Like, yeah, I love this. I was. all in. I was all in. I was eating their. tuna. I was eating their tuna. So good. So, so good. And then somebody told me, "That's got more [ __ ] in it than a Big. Mac. You might as well go back to. McDonald's and just have I said, "Well, how' the the guy lose the weight?" And. at that time, they told me that it was. probably a lie. And I was [ __ ]. baffled by it. I guess you can't lose. weight just eating cinnamons every day.

>> I don't think you can. >> That's what I think. That's what they. were saying, which is [ __ ] cuz I I. was sold a bill of goods about I eat. this, I lose a lot of weight. >> Jared Fogle lied. Why didn't you let. Debbone maybe get in there? >> Well, I mean, we were getting ready to. go and he was like he was very serious. about like I think I'm just going to. walk down there. He's like, I want a ham. sandwich so bad. I was like, "Well, Debbone, you could go to the [ __ ]. grocery store when you get home and just. get some ham and some bread if you. want." He's like, "It's not Subway. It's. not Subway's ham sandwich.". >> He wanted the sandwich artist.

>> Yes. >> He wanted a sandwich artist, which is. what the people from Subway were. >> Correct. >> I'll tell you that was tough for me. I. want, as you can tell, when it all went. down. >> Oh, yeah. >> Losing Subway out of my life was a big. deal. That was [ __ ] go. This fresh. [ __ ] Hey, do one line of mayo, please. >> One line of the mustard there, please. The $5 football. >> meatball. >> It was good. >> Oh, never the meatball, but certainly. >> meatballs. >> Anything but the meatball. >> Put some vinegar oil on that. >> Cookies. >> Do you want it toasted? Yeah.

>> Yeah. >> Please put it. >> Now every Subway smells like [ __ ]. >> What happened? >> Yeah. Why? >> Let's get to the next segment. Rest in peace, Subway. >> Yeah. >> Well, >> chilled lettuce. Chilled lettuce. >> You're right. You remember that. >> the shredded the little shredded lettuce. is very good. >> Oven roasted chicken. Add some bacon, please. Can we please put that in the. toaster? Oh my god. Yeah. I need a lot. of lettuce on that. One line of the. light mayo cuz you guys like the I just.

need a You know, you guys are supposed. to be artists here. Yes. Please cut in. half. Let's do the entire thing. Let's. make sure we get a good wrap on that. thing. Those are good times. It was all. a lie. I became a fatso. Debo tweeted subway. I just saw. >> Diddy. >> It's 2013. >> 2013. >> 2013, right? >> So whenever he was thinking about. walking to that place, you guys have no. idea. It's a lifelong. >> No idea. >> He He would have been like Paris Island.

subway. Like he would have put that. under. >> He was 11 years old then. >> Yeah, that's what I'm talking about. He. views these things like they're museums. Like we need to go see this thing. >> Sorry they didn't let you go, D. Or. >> no, never mind. >> Well, you can say it. >> No, never mind. >> You think you think that was a thread to. a hashtag free fogal right above it? Is. that all you're saying? >> I mean, we can never know. You can never. know. Twitter used to be so different, too. The way you used to have to. actually uh retweet things was you. actually had to copy paste it, put it in.

quotes, and then you would respond to. it. >> So people don't even that. It was a. crazy time there. Yeah. You could really. change what was in those quotes, you. see. Mhm. >> So you could just kind of you kind of do. whatever you want. >> Some people thought those were DMs, too, not even retweets. >> Yep. Yeah. There was people at that. time. I mean, Twitter has had quite a. >> Oh, you didn't care. >> Yeah. People were treating that thing. like it was nobody's going to see. Yeah. >> And then people found out, hey, everybody's going to see all this. forever for the rest of time. So, go. ahead and uh figure it out. A lot of. athletes had some things to say whenever.

they were younger on there. >> And Debbone. >> since 2013. He was looking forward to go. to that subway and you guys cut it off. Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, is. a man who I'm sure is fancied. Oh my. god. >> Without a doubt. >> Oh my. Ladies and gentlemen, it's time. for another college football. conversation with Stanford. Steve. >> Steve, did you go through the subway run. like I did there? I I I think you heard. it obviously. Did you go through a. Subway run as well like me? >> Absolutely. And even funnier, driving.

out of Lambo Field the other night about. 2:00 a.m., there was a play against. Sports right down the street. I couldn't. believe it. I haven't seen those stores. in forever. >> Lambo's the greatest. Yeah, it. >> it's like going back in time. It's. unbelievable. >> Connor said uh that he actually heard. that you were called Subway Steve uh. before Stanford. >> coming. I'm I'm listening to the. conversation. I knew that one. >> Subway Steve. We didn't know that was. the case. That's crazy. Uh, okay. Let's. look uh let's look at this college. football world that we're currently in. right now. Obviously, the College.

Football Playoff Committee is the most. important ranking in all of sport. Uh, they have the AP ranking. There's other. people that give out rank. I think PFF. has their own ratings in college. football. The only one that truly. matters when push comes to shove is the. College Football Playoff Committee's. ranking because they are the ones that. are deciding who's going where. What did. you learn from last night? Any big. shakeups or uh is this kind of what you. expected, Steve? Uh yeah, I thought the. Miami Miami should be happy uh uh. sliding up because now when you see the.

teams in front of you, they're going to. be underdogs in some games coming up. And you know, we I thought Joey did a. great job on the show last night just. talking about like every year we get to. November and it's like, well, if we win. this game and win this, what we never. talk about is teams are going to lose. Teams are going to lose in November. And. when you look at especially this week, I. mean, we got two monsters in the SEC and. those are two teams that are ahead of. Miami in Texas and Oklahoma. They're. both on the road and they're both. underdog. Now, how far would they fall.

uh you know, if if they were to um to. lose, that's the question, but Miami, I. could see a path there uh for them. So, I'd be I'd be happy with them. I'm I get. the people wanted&m uh ahead of Indiana. after Indiana struggled. I wasn't too. fond of that thought. Uh with with&m, you know, they made the point, I thought. it was interesting, though. They made. the point that they went to Missouri and. they beat Missouri who's on their third. quarterback, right? Indiana went to Penn. State and beat a team that doesn't have.

their quarterback or their coach. So, I. I thought that was an imbalance there, but I don't have any problems with. Indiana staying at two. >> Okay. Indiana at two, I think they would. view it as a good win on the road. Didn't play their best. >> They never won there. >> Yeah. ever. Well, this team's never. played her, so that's true. >> I mean, that's what Signetti had to say. about it. But on that note, incredible. catch. Maybe the catch of the season. The body control is crazy there from. Cooper Jr. Fernando Mendoza. I think a. lot of us who have been watching him. this season with Indiana and hopefully.

Hooers fans can agree with me whenever. we say this. We thought he was going to. walk down there and score. Like, I. didn't know how easy he was going to do. it, but I think the expectation was, yeah, Mendoza is going to score. The. reason why I'm saying that right now is. because I was getting FaceTimes from. people maybe that are part of the Penn. State cult and they were calling Indiana. frauds, frauds, frauds. And then when. Mendoza got the ball back late, I told. that particular person, Mendoza is about. to slice you up. And what the [ __ ]. happened to Penn State AQ? Literally.

immediately upon that happening, pal, do. you remember? >> Yeah, I they they fell apart. >> Who? No, Mendoza showed up. You said. that fell apart. >> He got sacked on the first play and I'm. like, "Okay, here we go. It's over." And. then he proceeds to do what he did. That. was even more impressive. The fact that. he got. >> sacked and it was what, second and 16, back inside his own 20 to start. >> So, I think that actually I don't say. legitimizes him even more because that. would be kind of throwing shade at the. rest of the season where he went into.

Oregon and won there by the way and is. putting up more numbers than everybody. else and their defense has continuity. But did Fernando Mendoza in that moment. and granted they should have beat you. guys by 100. We all understand it. Big. 10 football though in Penn State. I mean. that's going to be a difficult game. It. can be if you let it. They certainly. did. Mendoza though when they needed to. score they scored. Their weapons when. they needed to score they scored. And. when they need a stop we assume they'll. just be able to do that as well. Indiana. can win the national championship after. watching play against your Penn State. team. And you know your Penn State team. isn't good but it's still a Big 10 game.

with fivestar players at Penn State. that place can get really intimidating. if you let them, right? And I think they. let the crowd get into that game. whenever Penn State came and took the. lead and what he did. Obviously, I think. they're built for it. I do. I think. they've built the team the right way. They're tough. The trenches are good on. both sides of the ball and the. quarterback's unbelievable and he was. without his top receiver basically and. was still able to do that and deliver in. the moment when he needed to. The seam. ball down the middle to get that thing. started after the sack and then from. there what he did was incredible. Okay,

let's go over to Hammer. Ton, we're. talking national championships right. now, chatting, Indiana. They've been a. part obviously of the top two teams in. the country for the last few weeks. What. do you have, Tone? >> I saw a fun fact uh this morning. In. each year since 2015, so basically the. last 10 years, the eventual national. champion was ranked in the top three in. the second CFP rankings. So that would. be these rankings. The national champion. has come from the top three which this. year would be&m Indiana or last year's. national champion Ohio State.

>> Stanford Steve we have AJ Hawk on here. and obviously he's an Ohio State legend. We had Ryan Day on last week and we. congratulated him for being number one. in the CFP committee. He said nope nope. He was literally leaving but there isn't. a lot of hype around this Ohio State. team like national conversation you know. and obviously they're number one team. Sain's favorite to win the Heisman. Their hype is certainly warranted from. the rankings and from the sports books, but national conversation kind of leave. them out. This feels like when the. Celtics were so good during the regular. season, it's like, "We're not going to. talk about the Celtics. We'll talk about.

them in the playoffs." And then they. dominated in the playoffs. It was like, "No, we can't talk about them. They're. too good." Is that what we're doing with. Ohio State right now, you think? And are. they the ones that are going to end up. with the national championship in your. eyes? >> Uh, I feel like there's an understanding. of how good they are. Uh but again to. your point, you know, uh was it Carnell. Take Hammy in warm-ups last week. Okay, what's what do we do? All right, let's. get the best player in the sport. 10. catches for a careerhigh saying takes. care of business. You know, the defense. is going to show up. So, it's not. boring. It's just a taking care of.

business attitude that they have. And. again, we've talked about it. This is. just a climb all the way to get to that. game in Ann Arbor. That's what they've. wanted. That's what everybody's wanted. And it's been slow because they have. been so dominant and there's nothing. really to pick up. People want to go. after their schedule. Okay, look at&m. schedule. I did I did&m schedule. Their. conference opponents are 8 and 27 so far. in games. Indiana 16 and 26. They. obviously played Oregon uh in Iowa, but.

you know, they have Wisconsin and Purdue. who are combined for one more conference. win. So people could pick them apart all. they want. I'm not going to do that. I'm. going to appreciate the hell out of a. team trying to go for two straight. national titles with a lot of different. pieces. And most importantly, what I. think is different about this team, which they absolutely had to piece. together during that run after losing to. Michigan, is they got some dudes on that. offensive line, man. They got some they. got some nastiness to him and that has. helped Sean a ton. Uh I think you know.

um show some evolution in his game and I. think it's just a credit to I mean at. the beginning of the year we didn't know. what H Heartline was going to do. calling plays. Everything is moving in. the right direction for them. And I I I. loved you guys trying to trying to crown. uh Coach Day last week. And he that's. one guy that's just not going to be. about it. And that was fun. >> Yeah, Ryan Day certainly has a good. mindset, especially for a coach that's. trying to build a dynasty, which they. certainly can. If they run the table. here, you're talking about maybe one of. the most dominant teams of all time, like literally in the history of the.

sport. AJ, in Ohio, it's obviously. national champion talk. How do they feel. about this particular team that's kind. of being left out of the national. chatter, but in a much different way? They are favorites, have been favorites, and expected to win by 20 every single. week. How do the Ohio people treat Ohio. State Buckeyes football games? >> I mean, I think the Ohio people are very. excited. They weren't sure coming in. with all the, you know, the change, especially on defense, what they exactly. they would look like, new quarterback. coming in, but I think they're super.

super excited, but also they're all. pointing to the Michigan game. Okay, let's beat Michigan and then let's go. take care of business. Like that that I. feel like is on the tip of everybody's. mind here. Uh obviously the coaching. staff, everyone there, they know, they. understand. First of all, that was an. unbelievable ball to J. Great ball, great catch. Like he's not open. Like. they're not, these guys aren't really. that open, but making unbelievable. plays, but uh yeah, it all comes down. to, hey, I think it's first. All right. Well, hey, we got to beat Michigan this. year, and then after that, let's go on. another run and let's go win a national. championship. Texas Tech representing.

the Big 12 in the CFP's committee. Love. was incredible. I I saw her what Herby. said on his show non-stop about like. just nicest, friendliest people. And. obviously we don't get treated the same. Like it it does, and this is going to. sound like such an [ __ ] comment. It. does suck that I am at the point now of. life and we I think now at this stage I. think I can say everybody up here, which. is cool to watch you guys get this as. well. People act and treat us. differently whenever we're at a place. Okay. I'm not get just getting treated. like how every human would get treated.

in certain situations. I don't love. that. Okay. I I would like to know what. it's supposed to be like. It makes me a. much better human and also the way I. talk much better. But just the reality. of my life now it it is I'm seeing. normally the best of every there. The. best of everything is kind of happening. everywhere we go, especially with game. day. So I thought Lig was amazing. Okay. Absolutely amazing. But then Gumpy. talked about it. Gumpy was out and. about, you know, and and walking around. Bull Rush was out and about walking.

around. And then you start hearing how. everybody's kind of talking about it. It's like this place is spec. Lick, Texas is a football town that loves. ball, loves their uh school obviously, but they also are an incredible group of. human beings that I want to see have. success. You know, like couple of their. local guys are investing in their team. They're proud of their local team. They. what they make their money off of local. business. like the local business, local. guys giving local money to the team. It's like they're building it the right. way. High school coach, Texas high. school coach as the coach. It's like.

that's a special place. I think Steve. and I think Kirk said the same thing. I'm wondering your thoughts on it all. down there in Levik. I I I hope that. place has success for the people that. are down there because how much they're. invested in that team. >> Yeah. Uh, and like I said, you know, being there for the Crabtree game, it's. a totally different place. That. unbelievable football facility with the. Patrick Mahomes walkthrough room. Uh, that wasn't even there the last time I. was there. So, you talk about, you know, the people and that that's what's the.

best. They haven't changed. It's it's in. this setting, you know, it's 5 hours. away from Dallas. It's it's it's almost. like its own island, uh, you know, in. Texas. And they appreciate so much. And. that's what I love to your point. You. know, they've built it. Yeah. Do they. have a lot of money? Yeah. Are they. putting at the right places? Yes. They. have a good football team? Heck yeah. And uh you know, last night seeing them. creep up ahead of Old Miss I thought was. interesting because their loss is. without their starting quarterback. Uh. so I you know they are that you know I.

mean need some things but it's not out. of the possibility that they could get a. first round buy. Although they really. want one of those home games. Yeah. >> They want one of those home games and. love it. And I think we should want we. should want one of those as college. football fans. A home game down in love. Let's go to hammer. Tatp tone. What did. the ranking say about Texas Tech to you? >> Yeah, I agree with Steve. Jumping Old. Miss was huge. And I think personally. Texas Tech is in the playoffs as long as. they don't have an absolute meltdown. because they have UCF at home. UCF is.

not the best college football team in. the world. And then I know West Virginia. is playing a lot a lot a lot a lot. better. But they go they finish with. West Virginia. So, if they take care of. business, UCF, West Virginia, it's very, very similar to SMU last year, who lost. in the ACC championship game, still made. the playoffs. Their one loss was was. without Kevin Jennings last year. So, I. see a situation here with Texas Tech as. long as they take care of business. UCF. and WU. I still think they can lose in. the Big 12 championship and still get in.

the playoffs because I don't think the. committee is going to um, you know, punish a team that loses in their. championship game when they're going to. be ranked five, six, whatever going into. that game. That would be two Big 12. teams. >> Yes, it would. Just like ACC last year. >> Yeah. And also the ACC. Do you think. that they put Miami up here to. potentially set up maybe if they can't. even get to the ACC championship because. of other things? Are they trying to set. up two ACC teams even if they don't win. the championship? You know, like there's. so many little things you can really. start saying, well, oh, they're trying.

to get Miami in here because they're. having them ranked high right now. So, even if Miami, who can't control its own. destiny, doesn't make it to the ACC. championship, will they still be able to. say, "No, Miami is still one of the top. teams." It's all those things we're kind. of looking at, Steve. Don't you think? >> Yes. The crazy thing is is they brought. it up on the show. There's a minute. possibility Miami could make it as an. atlarge and the ACC champion could be. left home. That that that's an outside. Yeah, that could happen. uh if the group. of uh if James Madison and the American.

team uh champion get in. Now, you got to. win your conference champion uh to be. that group of six. But that that is. there's a there's a little percentage. chance that can happen. >> No, isn't it? So, it's the highest. ranked four. >> five highest ranked uh conference. champions. So, if the. >> it would be two it would be a group it. would be two group of five teams then. that would get in above. >> Let's just let's just say Duke Let's say. Duke wins the ACC championship cuz they. still have a chance and they're what. five and four right now. They're five. and four now and they would end up being. 9 and4.

>> Yeah. So they Duke would be a 9-4 ACC. champ. But if you know if say South. Florida and James Madden are ranked. higher than them, they would get in over. the ACC championship cuz they would be. the champions of their conferences. ranked higher. >> The ACC champion not getting a bid. college football playoff would cause. quite a stir. >> Yeah. >> In how this whole thing is handled. Let's go to this weekend's games. Obviously, we're headed to Pittsburgh. for Notre Dame in pit. very historic. rivalry. Notre Dame can't lose. I think.

we all agree with that. Notre Dame. cannot pick up another loss. Narduzi has. come out and said, "I don't care if we. lose by 100. We can still get the ACC. championship." Now, to your point, >> if they were to lose by 100 and then. make it to the ACC championship and win. the ACC championship, that might be a. similar situation you're talking about. with if Duke was to win where maybe the. ACC champion doesn't make the turnney. And boy, people are going to be pissed. to hear that down there in the ACC. What. are your thoughts on this particular. game? you know, new quarterback for Pit. is electrifying. Has got everybody.

talking and they haven't lost with him. behind the center. And then Notre Dame, obviously, all anybody talks about is, hey, their two losses to very good. teams. They've gotten very, very good. They're a tough football team. They run. well. Jeremiah Love should be in a. conversation for Heisman. CJ Carr has. only gotten more and more reps. How do. you kind of see this game going? Is it. the new quarterback of Pit that can. maybe show up and derail Notre Dame's. national championship hopes? Or do you. think Notre Dame goes in there and takes. care of business as we sit on this. particular Wednesday? >> I believe if Pit's going to win the.

game, it's going to be one of those. highscoring back and forth games all. last year against Clemson until Kate. Clubnik, you know, had the long run for. the touchdown. But you see Desmond Reed. right there, number zero. He didn't play. against Stanford in their last game. He's their best player. He catched the. ball in the back field. He's a great. running back. Uh, and then they are off. a buy. So, I would think he would be. healthy. They got two line linebackers. that got dinged up, but Pit Narduzi has. always been great against the run. They. are number one in the country in yard uh.

yards per carry allowed. I think it's. below three yards. And on the other. side, you mentioned it, Jeremiah Love, as good as there. Price is is awesome. Uh, 1A, 1B, whatever you want to call. him. I think Price is just as good and. valuable. Uh, you saw him turn the USC. game around with a kick return. Oh, yeah. So, that's what it comes down to. Can Pit stop Notre Dame's uh run offense. and make them one-dimensional? We've. seen CJ Carr come back to reality. Uh. didn't play great against USC, but. again, that that kickoff return, a. couple turnovers got Notre Dame in the.

in the good there. So, Notre Dame's. offense against that Pit defense uh is. what this game's come comes down to. Pit. has the offense to hang around. Notre. Dame's defense is not as elite as it was. last year. So, I could see Notre Dame. winning and Pit keeping it close. Uh Pit. obviously hosting College Game Day. We'll be down there on the Northshore uh. right near the stadium on the river in. Roberto Clemente Park, I do believe is. the name of that place. It's a beautiful. area. It's a lot of space. I think it. should be an electrifying environment.

We hope you'll come hang out with us. The game that's going to take place. immediately after that, uh AP Tone is. going to go like what and what are your. thoughts on it? How do you think the. game day crowd's going to be too, Tone? Do you think it's going to be a lot of. Notre Dame or do you think Pit's going. to turn that place up? It is officially. sold out. The game is officially sold. out. You can check out Segeek obviously. for more options. And you can actually. use the promo code uh. >> Pat McAfee. >> Pat McAfee P A T MC AF E for $30 off. these tickets. Uh shout out to the.

sellout happening. Obviously going to be. an electrifying environment. If Pit. wins, Notre Dame is not going to the. national championship. If Notre Dame. wins, Pit fans are going to say we're. the same old same old. Then we. potentially get to the chance where the. ACC champion who could be pit doesn't. make the tournament. A lot on the line. Tone, what are your thoughts on the game. that's sold out and how it's going to. go? >> Yeah, I think game day is going to be. awesome. Obviously with the sellout, the. gravel lots going to be packed. Gold. lot's going to be packed. There's going. to be a lot of fans down there. This is. always a big sellout game. Pit Notre. Dame uh at Acer will be awesome. As far.

as the game goes, I I think Steve nailed. it. Uh Pit's rushing defense versus. Notre Dame's rushing offense. Pit's. defense has a slight advantage there. because they are so incredible there. Also on the other side of the ball, Notre Dame's rushing defense is really. good, too. I think they're 15th in the. country. So, I don't I don't think Pit's. going to run. They have been throwing. for over 300 yards a game since heel has. taken over. So, me, for the difference. of this game, I think it's going to be. which freshman quarterback is going to. play better, CJ Carr or Mason Hechel. Mason Hechel being the true freshman. quarterback out of Ohio. So, I I think.

it's literally whichever passing game is. going to be better. Notre Dame's passing. defense hasn't been as good as last. year, even though they have the same. same starting corners as last year. So, we'll see in this one, but I think it's. whatever freshman quarterback plays. better. >> Tony, uh, Bengals at Steelers the day. after. Are they changing the grass? Do. you know? >> I don't think I don't I don't I don't. believe they are. >> Oh, that won't be a convo at all. No, that won't be a conversation at all. >> I won't bring it up. >> If Boswell's leg snaps, there's there's. going to be a riot cuz.

>> we're not going to have that happen. But. if his foot slides underneath the ball. like it does again, there is going to be. a run. >> Mhm. >> What week is the state championship. games there? That's got to be coming. >> next week. >> Very soon. Yeah. >> There you go. >> I thought if that was Friday, >> that's going to be another. >> moons in the semis, baby. >> What? >> Moons in the semis. >> I saw the quarterback club. You ever be. a part of that? I saw a couple photos of. that place. >> They're the big boosters. You know, the. big boosters of Moon Township. >> Are you a big booster at Moon Township? >> I'm not. I don't You got He hates his. hometown. He really does hate his. hometown. Steve, have you ever heard of.

Joe Nardo? >> Joe Dinardo. You Joe, >> don't. >> Yeah, I feel like. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Just say yes. Of course. >> Love you, Joe. >> Yes, you have. Yes, you have. >> Joe was the man who when he said. something was going to happen with the. weather, it happened. And in Pittsburgh, you never knew with the weather. We had. more rain than Seattle, more soot than. you. And Joe Nardo was able to get on. that doppler and see exactly what.

happened. And he's from AQ Shipley's. hometown in Pittsburgh. >> Moon Township. And AQ hates Joe Donardo. >> Nope. I've changed. Remember? >> No, I don't. >> It's a lot of lot of tape me changing. I've changed. >> Why'd you change? Because Joe Donardo's. family. >> I realize how hard it is to predict the. weather. >> See? Come around. Thank god you are. finally acknowledging Pyono's greatness. on. >> especially in Pittsburgh. >> How about this project bundle up? Do you.

remember that? >> Oh yeah. >> It's coming up on I think 40 years. You. know who founded that? >> Joe Donardo. Sally Wiggins. >> So I hope Moon wins strictly for Joe, not for you. >> Mhm. >> Yep. >> I can't believe he's been. >> Hey, he did ruin a lot of golf rounds. though. Remember that. >> Foxy, once again, you're doing this [ __ ]. that you've been doing lately and I. don't like it. Whenever somebody lets. some words slide out of their mouth. about Rudy subs, you go, "Let me go. ahead and post this. See if anybody else. don't need to be doing that." And then. right now we're having a moment here, a. good one for Joe Nardo. And all of a.

sudden, you're going, "Hey, Q, don't get. too soft here. Remember about you and. your dad's golf trips that Joe said it. was going to rain and then maybe it. didn't rain as much." Why'd you do that? There's no reason to do that. >> I just needed to remind him because as. someone that's had a lot of golf rounds. ruined, it sucks and the weekends ruined. and there's got to be someone to blame. for that. So in this case, >> it's not Joe Donardo. >> I don't know. I I'm not from Pittsburgh, so I don't know. So I just am asking. >> Joe said it would and it did. That's. what the Joe Donardo difference was. And. AQ, >> that's right.

So that's right. I don't like it. I don't like it at all. You need a. >> I believe him. >> Thanks, AJ. >> He keeps talking. >> He seems sinc He seems sincere. Honestly, >> football gods aren't going to like what. you just did right there. Didn't you. send me a picture when you went back to. go to Kennywood of you stopping by Joe. Naro's grave site and taking a dump on. his headstone? No. No, I didn't. I. didn't do that. Why did you do that? No, I didn't do that. Disgusting. That is. disgust. That's what you're promoting. >> I didn't do I didn't do that. >> I drove by. I saw the Joe Donardo.

Dinardo water tower right there when you. enter Moon Township. I said, "You know what? It's hard to. predict the weather.". >> Okay. So, yay Gab. >> So, did you get out do the whole thing? >> You salute? Now, I was driving down. Route 60, you know. >> Mhm. >> Put my head down as I drove by the water. tower. I didn't look at the road for a. solid 30 seconds. >> Well, you didn't want to make. >> I had I had to give his respect. >> Oh, you you're. wow driving.

>> Yeah, I came out of respect. >> Okay. Thank you. >> Straight away. It was. >> Thank you for doing that. Thank you for. doing that. That Okay, now it does feel. like you've maybe come all the way. around. Maybe Moon will win now. What. are you guys? Double A, Alea AA, quad A? I think we're 4A. >> 4A used to be 3A whenever I played. Now. there's. >> 6A. >> 6A now. Yeah, they've reclassified. everybody. I think it's kind of a. confusing thing, but hey, Moon's going. to win it all. >> What are you guys? The super duper. Tigers. >> Yep. >> Good luck. >> That'd be two That'd be two big wins in. a couple weeks. You know, beat the old. plum Mustangs. >> Tough team.

>> What? We got a tough team. We got a. young team. We'll be back. Listen, next. year's Moon Tigers don't want to see the. Mustangs. I just want to let you know. that. So, we got we got a quarterback. who's gonna be a junior next year. Yeah, >> he was a sophomore this year. He's gonna. be a junior next year. >> Yeah, I figured if he was a sophomore, I. figured he'd be. >> Is he good? >> But couldn't be held back to, you know, and we need to start we need to start. doing that a little bit maybe more at. PL. I don't want to be promoting. anything. But if we get 20 year olds as. seniors at Plum, I think we'd have a. chance. >> It's a huge advantage. >> I think got to do it earlier. Got to do.

it before. >> kindergarteners like Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> Start them late. >> Okay. something think about people in. plum because I think with the way our. bodies are built in plum we're going to. need the age over the size against some. of these guys you know we're going to. need the wisdom in there so that's right. we get a couple 23 year olds in there I. think we'll have a chance really to body. those teams but Nenburgg our quarterback. dog absolute dog just like Joeardo and I. hope moon wins for him not for you two. big games in the SEC Stanford Steve do. you know Joe Nardo now do you feel like. you.

>> yes very familiar very familiar. >> thank you. >> appreciate his. Thank you. See, it's as easy as that. He. doesn't even know who he is. He didn't. even get a chance to grow up with. Project. >> I just did it. Why are we going back? >> Be hard for me to move on. That's how. disrespectful you [ __ ] were. What did. he say about Kennywood, too? Didn't he. say it was disgusting? >> Yeah, he said Kennywood sucked. >> I mean, time of my life. >> Potato patch is cool, but. >> Potato Patch not as I remembered. >> You ever been to Kennywood? You ever.

been to Kenny? >> I have not. I have not. detonator this. weekend here. >> Hold on. >> There we go. >> You should go film it. Do a special Jen. Langu. >> How did you just think of this? That. That's how you know it stinks. >> If you die, >> what's that? >> Are you going this weekend? >> I I didn't. >> Oh, you could go, I guess. >> Sure you did. >> I didn't just think of it right now. I. knew anytime I'm going to be in the. area, I need two things. Rudy Subs, Kenny's Wood, you know. And that's. that's where I'm headed this weekend, down there to Kenny Wood. Do you eat. Kenny's wood or is that just a place you.

go? You know, so. >> what's the mascot's name? >> Kenny. >> No. >> Kangaroo. >> Kenny Kangaroo. >> Kenny. >> Pretty sweet costume. >> He kind of he's kind of got like a used. sock kind of caution. >> Yeah. Yeah. Looks like Penn State's very. similar to the Nitney Lion uh up there. at Penn State, but that kind of has a. little history. Kenny Kangaroo does. could use a little bit of an offer. I. think we could make him. >> Kenny's got a little history, too. What's that? >> Kenny. It's Pittsburgh. So, you know, Kenny's got a little [ __ ] to him. I.

think we could all guess I think we. could all guess what's going on there. >> That's right. >> Like the Subway guy. >> Yeah. What do you mean? >> He's not from Pittsburgh. >> Okay. >> Okay. He He is an Indiana guy. And not. saying people like Indiana like him, but. Pittsburgh people. >> in a costume gets a little hot. As Nick. was uh Charles E. Chester. >> Oh, yeah. >> Don't you want to throw hands every once. in a while whenever you're dressed up. like a mascot, especially in Pittsburgh? >> Yeah. They actually only let me do it. once. It was so uh miserable. >> cuz Pittsburgh kids two mascots. >> Yeah. [ __ ]. >> This guy. >> Mhm.

>> I would have been a great mascot. >> You can still. >> time. >> Still time. >> Let's go to this weekend, Steve. >> Two huge SEC games. Let's start with. Oklahoma and Alabama. Tone mentioned in. the first hour of the program. He said, "Wait a second. What if Oklahoma and. Texas both win? You know, with where. they were ranked and Alabama lose, is. there going to be six SEC teams in. there? I I obviously don't want to go. into that world because that is hot take. world, but I guess there's so many. different outcomes that can take place. in the SEC. Everybody seemingly playing.

each other down a stretch here. What do. you see happening here early? >> Uh I look at Oklahoma, the success they. had last year of running the football. against Alabama. Uh over 250 yards, that. was when Jackson Arnold was a. quarterback there. He had plenty of rush. yards, too. But the ability Oklahoma had. to shut Alabama down. Milro couldn't do. get anything going through the pick six. Uh, and now you have a I I would just. more verified offense with Alabama. Uh, it wasn't pretty last week in a tough. game against a motivated LSU team after.

they got rid of their coach, but Tai. Simpson, man, still has NFL throw after. NFL throw uh in his arsenal. Uh, the the. the the drive, this touchdown you see. here with Ryan Williams, that comes. after a questionable deal with LSU with. the play clock. Uh, they gave the ball. to Alabama without a minute left. Uh. Simpson throws that deep post and then. gets a touchdown to Williams. Uh but you. know, you go into this game at Alabama. Oklahoma, you know, still with an. outside chance uh with a win. I think. they're sitting very pretty. Uh knowing.

what their resume already looks like, but I this Alabama offense is tough, man. It is. You got to play for 60. Uh. our Mason Thomas got dinged up in that. Tennessee game. I believe he's their. best defensive player. Uh status of him. is unknown. Uh but al Oklahoma has to be. they got to be better than they have. been I'd say going back all the way to. that Michigan game. Uh the offense has. to score. Matier ran for 80 against. Tennessee. So you saw a little. improvement there. Uh but the odds are. stacked against them. Alabama brings a.

lot to the table and we know al. Oklahoma's offense has struggled. So I I. lean Alabama in this game. >> Ty Simpson's everybody's darling for. maybe number one overall pick. AJ, what. are your thoughts on this Alabama. offense? >> I like Ty Simpson. I think the more he. plays, I think the the more I like him, actually. So, yeah, I could see an NFL. team. He's a big old dude, isn't he? Is. he like 6'4? >> Uh, he's got size. I think he does. I I. don't know his exact dimensions, but. every time he dabs somebody up who's. like an offensive lineman, it looks. natural. So, he does, you know what I. mean? He's not getting I think he has. the size. I think he will. I think he.

can move. Feels like he knows ball well. and he can put it in a bucket if he. needs to. AP Tone, your thoughts on. Alabama Oklahoma this weekend? My. thoughts. I I'm very interested to see. the Alabama offense because Tai Simpson. has literally like put this offense on. his back. And I like this is the best. defense that Alabama has played yet this. season. And can they keep doing it being. a one-dimensional offense? Their passing. offense is really good with Tai Simpson, >> but they have the 120th ranked rushing. offense in the country. Like, can you.

win against good defenses when you're. onedimensional and they know you're. onedimensional? And then Oklahoma, I. think, is second in sacks in the. country. So, like if they're just. pinning their ears back all day, if they. know Alabama can't run against them, I'm. very excited to see what Alabama's. offense does against Oklahoma's defense. And then, yeah, Steve talked about it. Oklahoma's offense hasn't been great uh. last four games since Matier hurt his. hand, but they have had a 100 yard. rusher in their last three games, which. is something they did not do before. And. if there is a slight weakness to the. Alabama defense, it's their rushing.

defense. So, I think it's going to be a. good game overall. >> Okay, so let's talk about what this game. is supposed to be. Hembo sent over stat. Oklahoma Alabama line movement in May. Alabama was favored by 14 in August 12. 1/2 November 7 now 5 1/2 what does that. mean Steve what am I seeing here. >> uh I think you're seeing people come off. Alabama uh you know just to all the. points that Tone just uh pointed out. about the lack of balance on offense. You know I go back and I watched. Oklahoma against Miss had their way for.

most of the day but they have more. balance in their offense. Uh so. Alabama's going to be put up against it. You got plenty of talent in the. offensive line uh to get this run game. right. You know, Grub, the play caller, is an offensive lineman. He wants to run. the football and uh they just has have. had so much success and they have so. much uh you know, of an advantage with. their receivers. They got NFL receivers. So I could get to how you get into into. a liking of throwing the football to. your NFL players. So Alabama's or. Oklahoma is not great on the back end.

So, I expect Alabama to to use the pass. to be successful. >> Okay, let's go to Texas, Georgia down. there in Athens. Obviously, this game's. gigantic. 10 verse five. Five favored by. five and a half. 7:30 on ABC. Obviously, a chance for game day to potentially go. to this particular game. Uh, it's huge. We've been to a Texas game, obviously. been down to Georgia already, but this. is going to be immaculate down there in. Athens. What are your expectations for. this, Steve? You know, I left the.

Georgia Old Miss game uh believing that. Georgia was going to run the table the. rest of the way and then I, you know, this past week and Texas is on a buy. Go. back and watch Texas. It feels like. Shark has fixed the offensive line. Uh. they made some movements. Uh they've. come out the first play against. Mississippi State, they throw a bubble. screen to Ryan Wingo. He goes about 60. yards. First play against Vanderbilt, they throw a bubble screen to Ryan Wingo. and uh it goes 75 yards for a touchdown. They're up 7 nothing. That kind of set. the tone for that Vanderbilt game. So.

along with fixing the offensive line, it. feels like Shark has simplified things. Ryan Wingo, we wanted more from him, you. know, at the beginning of the season. Couldn't get loose against Ohio State. A. combination of things of good defense. and quarterback lack of ability of. getting you the football. So Texas is, you know, they scored 30 uh two. straight, but they gave up 30 uh in two. straight two. It sounds like they're. going to get Taff, their safety, who's. their quarterback on defense back, which. is a huge get. Uh because when you look.

at this Texas, they're going to have to. score. Georgia's offense, you know, we've talked about it all year. They're. not a typical Kirby Smart team. The. offense outweighs the defense. So, Texas. is going to have to score. Uh and. Georgia doesn't have that NFL presence. on the defensive line. They don't sack. the quarterback a lot. So, I believe. Texas hangs around in this game. Uh and. and Georgia pulls away late. But I I. Texas with the points uh seems like the. side for me. >> Okay, you say that and then Hembo has. this stat. Texas is getting five and a. half. Texas on the road under SR two and.

six against the spread verse SEC teams. eight and 14 against the spread overall. Tone, what do you think with Texas and. five and a half heading down there? >> I think it's interesting because I think. Texas has the better defense when you. talk like Steve's talking about NFL guys. on the defensive line. Texas has them in. bunches. Their defense is really, really. good. And a million people were killing. Arch uh beginning of the season, rightfully so, because he was not. playing great. Last two games though, he's thrown for over 300 in each game. He's got seven total touchdowns to one.

interception. And I think it's a lot to. what Steve said about the offensive. line, how it has looked a lot better. So, if Georgia can't get to him, I think. Arch has looked so much better. And if. he's going to be the better quarterback. in this game, I kind of like Texas's. chances if they can stifle the Georgia. offense. >> Are we picking Texas in this thing? >> I don't know. >> Texas also 0 and4 against the spread on. the road this year. >> Yeah, that is that is the one thing. And. Georgia just wins. Like they just. somehow.

>> it's really tough to go Kirby might be. the worst coach to go against in college. football. You just I did it last week. First quarter, it's over. They play. their first best first half of the year. Can't get there and miss. >> How'd you do on your picks? How'd you do. on your game day picks? >> Uh two and one and hit sub superdog on. the field. So, we're good. >> 17 and 16. >> Oh, boy. See. >> 17 and 16 on season. We're above 500, baby. That's good. That's good, brother. I'm happy for you cuz I think a lot of. people see the 500 and think like not. doing good. It's like no, no, no. We're.

doing okay right now. You had a little. bit of a run then he cooled off one and. two, one and two, one and two to. counteract the two- ones that you had. If we're back on the two in one trend, it's perfect time. >> It's perfect time. Stanford C for you to. be seen aboard. Well, and we're going to. ride alongside you as we appreciate the. hell out of you stopping by each week. with another college football convo. Have a good one. We'll see you in. Pittsburgh, brother. >> Yes, sir. I got my eyes on a place for. lunch tomorrow. >> Fizzoles. >> There's no fizzles. >> Not a bad idea. >> What's your What's the name of the. place? >> Rudy's.

>> Hey, maybe don't eat that tomorrow. It's. going to be coming in bunches on other. days. What? >> Oh, okay. >> What was that? >> Just look somewhere else. You can't get. enough Rudy's utter guy. Hit it whenever. you want, brother. >> Thank you, Gumpy. Dumpy understands. Are. you going to eat there? If you're going. to go there, that's whole part of the. process. You can eat Turner's tea right. here. Boom. Let me go ahead and get a. little bit of this. Let me go get a. whole Italian hot lettuce on you. Mayo, I'll take cheese on the fries on the. side. Make it the daily special. Thank. you so much. Then go sit down. And then. they serve that thing. They bring that. out on you. Crispy fries, chili lettuce.

>> Great manini bread drop right down in. front of you. Don't be afraid to get a. cheeseburger sub either. >> [ __ ] you, Tone. You should not be saying. anything about Rudy's. It's. >> the best thing I got. >> You started all of this. >> Tone, you started all this. >> I did. Oh, >> no one came out really roaring for the. other side. >> I'm pretty loud about it, aren't I? I. mean, Gumpy's pretty loud about it. >> [ __ ] love Rudy. >> Joe Hadley sent in a text to the group.

Did you see it? >> No. >> Yeah. He said, "I love it.". >> Joe's in the group. Joe Joe's in the. group. >> Kaboli never said it was the best sub in. Pittsburgh. >> And Kaboli's voice matters more than. anything. And we don't have to get into. why. This is true. >> He doesn't care. >> Everything's good. >> I love his rating. I trust his rating. system better. >> Yeah. He's not going to come on and say. one's better than the other because it. depends what time of day, where he's at, and what he needs. Everything's good in. time for Kaboli. I mean, what do we even. say? >> Do you like skinny chefs?

>> Huh? >> Do you like chefs? You know, chefs when. they're really skinny, you trust him. >> I would like Michael Fatso as a chef. But on that note, on that note, >> Kaboli is eating mayonnaise sandwiches. >> He's not a chef. >> If you told me Kabali is eating poop, I'd believe you. But I'm just saying his. opinion when it comes to food. He makes. a good point. >> He does. If If someone said, "Hey, Kaboli had a bowl full of poop for lunch. today." I'd be like, "God, what do you.

put on top of?" I would believe that. >> Respect. >> You would believe that? >> I would not believe that. >> Me either. >> I'd be a little surprised, but I. wouldn't be taken aback. >> Yeah. Okay. >> I don't believe it. Kabool, >> I do think Kabal likes a lot of things. So, it's hard for him to just crown. something. You know, you can't just be. crying. >> Next meal is the best meal. >> Bingo. Why? Cuz it's the next meal. Exactly. That's That's what Kabali is. always in a football mindset. >> His food's the same way. >> He's the guest picker, right? >> Yeah. That is crazy. I don't know if.

they picked one. Is Maraboli the guest. pick? >> I think so. Please. >> That's a great idea. >> But have him walk from like 200 yards. away and film the whole way up to the. stage. >> Play music again. >> Sorry, Steve. Sorry, man. You have no. idea who this guy is. You know Mark. Kaboli? >> Yeah. Yeah, I've seen him on the show. >> Of course. >> Oh, you know Kabool? >> Yeah. >> I'll tell you what, Kabool is having a. great year. Travel's been tough for him, though. He's kind of all the way games. He. >> documents it though.

>> The air traffic controllers being down. has not been good for Mark Kabul and. >> we would like to support him here as the. official employer of him and let him. know we appreciate that Kabul. >> Uh. >> where the Steeler where the Steelers. facility is at? Lrobe or Latroe. >> Uh so if you're from there or you're. older, you say Lro, I believe. Okay. >> Most people though that I know say Lro, but if you would like to drop it around. there, you should say Lro. Okay. Like, but I'm not a yinszer.

>> Like AJ did yesterday with nam and nom. >> Yeah. Vietnam is what he said instead of. Vietnam. If you want if you want to feel. like a super yinser, you should say I. was up there in Latro. Do. >> Yeah, I've been there a couple times. >> Having some roller rock. >> Yeah. You were drinking a little roller. rock down there, having a good time. Had. a little Turner tea. Drop that one in. there. People will be like, "Yeah, Turner's tea." Yeah, of course I know. Turn. What are we talking about here? Drop it in Iron City if you'd like. If. you have an Iron City, >> I see light. There you go. See, you're. starting to get Yeah, you know all the. [ __ ] Yeah. Yeah.

>> Rudy Subs, though. Definitely drop Rudy. Subs. That'll really up the And the good. thing about Rudy Subs is the reason why. they're so good. And I don't like the. slander from your [ __ ] mouth. Foxy's. mouth. >> What did I say? I'm not sure why I'm. getting the messenger. >> I say anything about Rudy. >> I grew up eating pub sub. So, I know a. good sub. >> Pub sub can't [ __ ] hold the same. paper that Rudy Subs is. >> Is that Miami Subs? Miami Subs. >> That's another banger. Great fries, but. public subs, >> orange fries, great chicken,

>> cool lighting, poor lighting. Oh, yeah. Very cool. Very cool. Miami Subs did. have a little bit and it was closer to. the house than Rudy's. So, >> I'm going to let you know that sign that. got me the flamingo got me a couple. times away from Subs, I will say. But it. did go out of business because I believe. they were selling drugs at the back of. it. Tony, is that accurate? >> Yep. Them and Smarty Arties. >> Yeah. >> Both those places closer than Rudy's. So, to get to Rudy's on a bike or. walking, we had to go a pretty long way. I had to go past McDonald's first. That. might get me. That's a sandwich. I like. it. Miami Subs next. Discipline. Let's.

keep going to Rudy's. Smarty Arties was. there. Best wings in town. Best wings in. any. >> more than wings. >> Well, they were selling a lot of drugs. out of that place. >> Or they put them in a sauce. >> potentially. >> Whoa. >> Oh, it was good. >> Are they open? >> Best wings you ever had. >> Give me a bowl, Steve. >> Our dare officer actually stopped. That. is not Smarty Artist. That is Rudy Subs. Okay, just so we are are all clear. That. is Rudy Subs right there. >> Good spot. >> What's Rudy's last name? >> Well, I don't know if. >> Subs.

>> Oh, okay. >> Is that Italian? >> It was just a coincidence. >> Yeah, kind of knew what he was meant to. do. >> Subscene. might have a little respect. All right. Enjoy Pittsburgh, though, Stanford. I. will say this. You should go by Rivers. Casino, though. Lose about 100 bucks. just to tell the Pittsburgh gods you. said thanks and then go do your thing. >> Okay. >> Are you a casino guy? Uh, the problem is. I'm headed out to Las Vegas after game. day for Monday Night Football. So, trying to keep my poise as far as the.

casinos go. >> It's right there. You're going to be. right. The casino in Pittsburgh is going. to be howling at you. >> Yeah, I know. >> Rivers are going to be right there. Keep. doing your thing. We appreciate you, ladies and gentlemen. Stanford, Steve, >> there was an opportunity for you to. stick up for Rudy subs. >> Well, see, you didn't give me a chance. You just started just yelling at me. I. never said a thing about Rudy. What's. the sub place though in the Where you. at? West Hills. >> Uh, Deella Subs. That's. >> That's a sub shop. >> Debella has got good subs. They got good. subs. Good bread. I think they probably. have Mancini's bread as well if I.

>> Good. They're good. >> Let's go to your offensive lines that. are performing at an all-time high. Ladies and gentlemen, it's time to go in. the trenches with AQ Shipley in the top. five offensive LINES. NUMBER FIVE, CHICAGO BEARS. Why is that? >> Chicago Bears are awesome. That's why. because it starts with Darnell Wright. He is going to be the right tackle. He's. going to cave everything down. But I. love this scheme, right? You're going to. run a YNF counter. So you're going to. see Cole KT come across, stop, invite. the defensive end inside, seal him. Now. you're going to get Lovelin out in.

space. By the way, >> how good is that? Can you guys run. through that hole? >> That's a big GAPING HOLE. >> IS THIS BEN Johnson from Detroit [ __ ]. here we're watching? >> Oh yeah, it was unbelievable the way. that he did that with KT on the run to. invite him inside to seal to get Lovelin. around. Lovelin not getting enough pub. because of Tyler Warren, but he's. playing fantastic. >> Hold on. Wait, wait. What is What are. the Giants doing with that defensive. front? That's 93. That's a out there to. the right. That's a nose guard out of. the edge. And then we got Brian Burns. back here off linebacker.

>> Yep. That's what they're doing. That's. why the New York Giants are the New York. Giants right now. That's why their head. coach got fired cuz they're doing dunk. >> And now you want Now you want him at. Penn State. >> Well, see, >> now you want him at Penn State. >> He's not coaching the defense. >> Oh, true. >> He's a head coach. >> Yeah. Well, that's a good facilitator. You don't want to be a micromanager. >> You're right. Good leadership. >> That's good leadership. >> Good leadership. Letting your defense. play like that. That Yeah, Dave probably. had his hands tied if we had to guess. There's a lot going on over there. We. can't wait to see what Dable does next.

ESPN's college football account, social. media account has put out that AQ. Shipley and Pat McAfee think Dable at. Penn State would be good. So, >> I I don't know if that's a good thing or. a bad thing. And I don't know if I think. it's a good thing or a bad thing, but I. definitely loved hearing it from you. Y. >> and uh if Dball gets Penn State coaching. job, we'd like to let him know good luck. out there. >> Yeah, good luck. >> I'm pulling for it. >> Hopefully your defense ain't doing that. cuz uh Ben Johnson of college football. will take advantage on certain. Saturdays. Uh who's the number four. performing offensive line coming out of. week 10 of the NFL season? The New.

England Patriots. >> Yeah. >> What does this mean? >> Hey, they look good. And I've been. singing their praises, trending up and. to the right all year. Let's take a look. at this. This is old school duo right. here. But it starts with Morgan Moses. and on Wenu getting the double team up. to Levante David. Hit that thing 100. miles an hour. Go hit your head on the. goal post. Look at the left side. This. is the reason they drafted two rookies. Wilson and Will Campbell. Look at Jared. Wilson. If we can run this back one more. time. Jared Wilson on Vava just fighting.

for his life. Number 58 left guard. All. you got to do is just fight, fight, fight. And as Vita goes to do this, just. hold on. kept it out just long enough. and there's the hole. Goes untouched. >> So, we got two rookies on the left side. that are doing just fine. You're saying. >> they're doing great. I mean, listen, Will Campbell's been great. Jared. Wilson's been better. Better. And he was. drafted in the third or fourth round, I. think, Connor. Correct me if I'm wrong. >> Yeah, he's been fantastic and kind of. came out of college as a center out of. Georgia playing him at left guard. because they went and got Garrett.

Bradberry to be their center from. Minnesota. And now all of a sudden, this. left side has revitalized this offensive. line. >> Trayvon Henderson also very good. He. finally got full touches, right, cuz. there was an injury. >> Yeah, Stevenson was out and then early. in the game, Jennings went out, actually. another former Penn Stater and then it. was all Trevian Henderson. I think he. only touched the ball 17 times, 18. times, got 150 rush yards, two TDs. It's. unbelievable. I mean, the things just. this season are incredible, of course, but we're talking about a guy who's 23. years old playing quarterback. And this.

offseason, the story was, hey, you got. to overpay guys to prove it. It's crazy. to think that this upcoming offseason is. going to be more so. The Patriots are. one of the top destinations. >> A shout out to the New England Patriots. getting it right with their young. quarterback. Okay, let's go to the. number three performing offensive line. of week 10. The Seattle Seahawks. Lot of. Seahawks though. >> Lot of Seahawks. >> You saw them up close and personal. >> I did and I liked what I saw. And it. starts they get their fullback Brady UTS. back. He was on IRS. Rookie out of. Alabama spelled O U Zts pronounced oots.

>> That's a great name. >> Great name. >> He was a backup tight end at Bama. They've made him their fullback. He's. fantastic. Let's look at the combination. though between the center and the left. guard. So Olu Olu with Timmy is the. center. He comes in as the backup. because their starting center goes down. Him and Gray Zable their first round. pick. Look at this combo up to the. backside backer. Boom. Put his ass down. Charbanet does what he does. Make a. move. Get back out to the left. I mean. this was all game long. This entire. drive started inside their own 10. They. went the same play. They went to the. right. They went to the left. They went.

to the right. They went to the left. The. whole way down. Got some points out of. this drive. Incredible. >> Obviously, it's a lot of footwork there. from the big guys. Takes a lot of uh. coordination, chemistry, and uh. practice. Is this a newer offensive line. or these guys been playing together for. a while? >> They have been playing together this. year. I mean, they went and got they got. their guy Gray Zable from North Dakota. State, first round pick. He has really. injected some life into this offensive. line. Their left tackle was really good. So, same thing. If you get one side. good, your entire line becomes better. AJ Hawk, what do you think about this. Seattle Seahawks offensive line getting.

to the second level quicker than he. could, you know, kind of say get to the. second level? >> Yeah, you couple that with it. You see. Charbanet's footwork and him able to. like put his foot in the ground and. change direction so quickly. It's they. got something good going. When you get. the fullback uh back, I like that little. that little half motion he's doing, the. side motion because you can run a lot of. stuff off of that. Your linebackers are. naturally going to boss and bow. sometimes away to not get out leveraged. and you can kind of uh mix things up. But like I said, I've said for a while, like the Seahawks, they're legit. If. their O line's only getting better as.

the season goes, I think they're a legit. contender. >> Is Charbanet 45 years old? How long sh. >> Feels like he's been around for a while, doesn't it? >> Yeah. And he looks fast, quick. I mean, everything about him looks amazing. But. I know the name. I feel like I've known. the name Charbanet for a long time. I've. seen highlights of Charbanet for a long. time, it feels like, and now the Seattle. Seahawks are featuring him even more. And it's like, and they're on top of the. world. Like good for Charbanet, too. His. wife 24 years old. I feel like he's on. his rookie deal still. That's Wow. And. Kenneth Walker was great in this game, too. They both had over 70 yards. rushing. >> Both of them. >> Good for the Seattle Seahawks.

>> By the way, Sam Darnold, I think, only. threw the ball 13 times in this game. >> So, they just hammered the run game. >> And he's an MVP discussions. He doesn't. care. You have me throw it 13 times. I. don't care at all. Let's just win these. games. They're certainly doing that. Speaking of a team that's winning games, the number two performing offensive line. of week 10, the Detroit Lions. Hell. yeah. >> Yeah, this is this play's awesome. I. mean, talk about a hole. Let's watch. this. We get the old triple trap going. right, triple zone going left. Let's. watch Leaport to start this thing off. Wham the defensive tackle. Watch Penny.

Su on the backside decle this. linebacker. And then I mean he never. even broke stride. Never even broke. stride right through that hole. >> Hey, he's a lot of Detroit Lions fans. favorite player, huh? Gibbs. Everybody. likes Jir Gibbs. It feels like. >> everyone loves Gibbs. 173 total yards, three touchdowns. When he's going, we're. pretty much unstoppable. This is the. Lions team that we need to see every. week on In the Trenches. >> The Lions pounded the commanders. Dan. Campbell is calling plays. Did you hear. what Dan Campbell had to say about uh. who's going to be calling plays in the. future and how it all works?

>> I did not. I would assume he's going to. he's going to stay and uh he's going to. call the rest of the way. >> Well, what about Johnny Mo here? He. addressed it at the press conference. >> Yeah. I mean, eight games you you can. figure out a lot in eight games about. what you are, what you're not, where. you're at, all this and that. But the. bottom line, like even from where I sit, look, don't forget Ben. You know, I called those games. I called. whatever that was, eight or nine games. I don't remember what it was in 21. While he he helped me, but he he. watched, he learned,

you know, he he saw how I ran it, how I. wanted to run it, what I was looking. for, and then it evolved, you know, he. evolved it from there. He took it, he. knew exactly what I wanted, and, you. know, by the middle of 22, I didn't have. to say a word. I mean, he was. And so. that's that's kind of where John is. right now. That's all, you know, it's. it's good. And and uh you know, sometimes that's the best way to really. know what somebody's looking for is just. uh just going through that. So, um look,

I just feel like it's the right thing to. do right now and and I'm going to do it. Am I perfect? No, I'm not perfect. Uh. players are going to have to bail me. out. You know, they bailed me out. yesterday on a couple of things. Um. Jared G bailed me out. So, the staff. bailed me out, but that's what. teamwork's about, man. We got to all. help each other out. And uh. >> you say that you mean that maybe John. comes back around a year from now when. it's Colin plays again? I mean, is that. like. >> Yeah. Or who knows? I mean, maybe. sooner. I you know, >> yeah, I just kind of want him to see.

what I'm looking for. And then there's. some stats coming out from Hembo here. Uh the Lions tendencies by season 2022. through 24 with Ben Johnson, 50% under. center, 30% play action, 68 motion. 2025. here. 54% under center, 30% play action, 70% motion. So, it's like this may be. Dan Campbell's office is what Dan. Campbell's saying. Like, hey, this is. kind of what we're looking for. Now, he. did give credit to Ben Johnson. He. evolved. He changed it from there. But, this is what we're looking. We want. motions. We want explosives. We want to. take advantage of all of our people. And. the fact he can just drop back in there,

AJ, I think is fascinating where he just. drops back in, puts the glasses on, starts calling the plays, and they have. the best week that they've had all. season. Lions fans are saying, "Hey, MCDC, we're not taking those glasses. off." But four eyes MCDC is the rest of. the season. We need you calling it. And. I kind of like him talking his [ __ ]. too. Like, hey, I'm not like an ass play. color here. This is kind of something. I've done here for a while. That never. gets brought up about MCDC. >> Yeah, I like that. First time I saw that. clip, I was I not surprised, but I was.

it was cool to hear like the honesty and. how he talked. Hey, Ben was right there. I was calling those games. And then I. guess it is true. Like if you you're the. head coach, you want your play callers. to absolutely know the vision you have. and how you want like the the identity. of your offense. So yeah, maybe maybe he. does give up play calling eventually, but if you as long as this offense. continues to roll and I understand it. was only one game like he's not going. anywhere. He is going to be calling. those plays. >> I loved everything about that. One thing. about Dan Campbell, he's been. unapologetically himself. He's been. honest. He's been open with the. conversations. And some people have been.

saying he's a savant. I mean, a lot of. people say, "Hey, it was the commanders, but to come out and show like, hey, okay, we can have I'm I'm sure that was. an uncomfortable, difficult conversation. with a guy that's, hey, you promote him. and be the play caller, but it's like, hey, you know, just watch and learn. Ben. went through the same thing. You see. where Ben is now, and I'm sure he'll get. the opportunity again. But this was. awesome. And then knowing the post of. your team, too. You're a winning team, but hey, this is what the team needs. right now. Maybe I don't have to do this. the whole way, but let me do it for now. and show them how it's done. >> Yeah. And the guy said, uh, is Johnny M.

going to be calling plays next year? And. Dan was like, next year? It might be. like three, four weeks here. Let's uh. see how it goes. What do you think he's. waiting for, Fox? Do you think he wants. to see if he gives him enough time? Hey, here's against a team that has a good. front. Here's a team that has a good. like how do you think this is kind of. going? And what do Lions fans want? >> Yeah, I mean right now Lions fans want. MCDC calling plays for sure. >> WELL, BACK BEHIND the wheel. That's what. Foxy was texting. And it's great to have. MCDC behind the wheel again is is how he. chatted. >> Yeah, 100%. J Mo had six catches, 100.

yards, a touchdown. St. Brown five. catches. Leaporta five catches. Cle. Raymond four catches. Gibbs did what he. did. Montgomery still had 70 yards in. this game. So to us, we're going to find. out a lot on Sunday night against a. really good Eagles defense. I think if. MCDC keeps this rolling against that. Eagles defense, you can't go back. You. just literally cannot as the head coach. And I just love that he makes moves. He's not afraid to make these kinds of. moves. >> Yeah. I love that he's telling the. truth. What's that? I was I was just. going to say it's I mean he's kind of. said I don't think he would do this but.

he's kind of in a perfect spot because. if they lay an egg on Sunday night he. could just be like yeah you know I let. Johnny call this one tonight and. unfortunately you saw what happened. >> now coach we saw you calling the plays I. thought just like. >> no I'm I'm trying to throw Nick off on. the other sideline man you know I mean I. got to make sure he thinks I'm calling. plays that was Johnny up in the booth he. obviously didn't do a great job so I. will take the reigns next week. So, you. were showcasing your Applebee's. commercial acting there on the sideline. the entire game because they had a lot. of shots of you definitely calling the. >> gamesmanship, man. I mean, you get it.

In this league, everybody can be fooled. So, yeah, that but that was Johnny. I. mean, you Yeah. Hey, you score three. points. It's We might I'm going to take. the range again. Don't worry. You're. going to be seeing a lot more of what. you saw last week. Man, >> he could do that. >> I'm not saying he will do that, but you. know, it's it's there if he needs it. >> If it happens. >> Yeah. >> You never know. For the good of the. team. >> Exactly. Uh Tone, how do you feel about. that and your thoughts on it? >> To Tai's point, I thought I saw. something where MCDC said they were. going to trade off. So MCDC got the. Commanders and then Johnny Mo's going to. have the Eagles and then MCDC's got the.

Giants and then Johnny Mo's got Green. Bay and then MCDC's got Dallas and then. Johnny Mo's got the Rams and then MCDC's. got the Steelers. So I thought he said. he he was like, I think I'm gonna do. every other game. >> Yeah, there's not a bad genius. >> Not a bad Yeah. Once again, MCDC. football. >> That's right. >> Just so smart. Nobody ever talks about. everybody calls him a meatthead. Speaking of meattheads, who are the five. best meatheads in week 10 of the. offensive line in AQ Shipley's eyes? Oh. no, the Indianapolis Colts. Two time two time number one offensive. lines in the NFL this season. The last.

time it happened, we laid an egg against. Pittsburgh Steelers. Now this time, hopefully that'll not be the case. What. did the boys do? Oh, broke records in. Germany. Is that right, AQ? >> That's right. 32 carries for 244 yards. and three touchdowns. This was he. Jonathan Taylor obviously had some big. runs. Let's watch this. This is the. gamewinner. Look at Tyler Warren. Start. left. Watch Jonathan Taylor start left. This little subtle jab, then come back. Kick out by Quint Nelson. Kick out by. Tyler Warren. And then Jonathan Taylor. just absolutely undresses the safety in.

the hole. >> Yeah, it was a little heavy there with. it, but uh he is outrageous. Good setup, good scheme, good tragedy. Oh man, >> I mean, how good is that? >> That's tough, AJ. That's a brutal brutal. spot cuz he also he's f he thinks the. blocker's coming for him for a second. too. >> Look, he thinks Tyler War's going to hit. him. Oh, wait, not me. Okay. >> Oh, no. I just thought one-on-one here. with nobody else around. Great news. Jonathan Taylor has become a mustwatch. >> Yeah. >> And the offensive line has become. mustwatch in doing so. Is it the.

offensive line, which is why Jonathan. Taylor's doing so well, but he's. obviously special special. >> The O line's fantastic. Tyler Warren's. been a big piece of this because they. play him at fullback a lot and this is. what he's been able to do. But look at. the tray block on the right side. Moi. Cox, Braden Smith just cave that whole. thing in as they climb seal the. backside. You get the kick out, you get. the kick out and then. >> I think I saw Moi Cox on that miked up. say uh he was blocking and he heard no. whistle. He was blocking and there was. no whistle and he's like is this dude. about to score a touchdown? hears the.

crowd start roaring and it's Jonathan. Taylor going for whatever 90 yards or. whatever he did that one run and uh I. forgot about Moi Cox still being on our. team. He's gigantic, huge. And if he's. blocking and Tyler Warren's blocking, we're able to do what the Steelers are. doing there. Six offensive linemen, but. also it's a tight end. We got seven. offensive linemen, Tyler Warren and Mo. Alli Cox, obviously a two tight end set. >> Three tight ends in here. I don't know. who this tight end is on the back. >> Over. That's who knocked Alro Mooney. out. >> There you go. >> Pregame. So, you know, he's a big strong. son [ __ ] too. >> Yes, he is. I I don't know. He looked. like he was getting good blocking here,

too. So, we got 13 personnel basically, but uh two uh would be considered a. fullback and a running back in that. But. so that's eight blockers. >> Yep. >> So you give Danny Dime some time and you. give Jonathan Taylor a lot of. opportunity. Shane Stken seemingly has. figured it out. >> It's really good stuff. I mean, it. really is. And like AJ said earlier. about that little short motion. This is. what you can remember Seattle did it and. they ran zone to it and then right here. you can short motion left and now run. the counter back out of it. >> Watch Nelson here. Watch Quinn Nelson. He didn't have to make a block guy miss.

and HE GOES YES. YES. >> He Kenny Albert did that a LITTLE BIT. >> YES. WAS there any McUade uh stats about. Jonathan Taylor's game in Berlin, Germany? >> Uh his top speed actually reached um I I. want to say it was 38.67. km, which. >> per hour. >> Kilome. >> Do they do kilometers per per hour lad? >> But kilometers would be a distance. So. you need to add some sort of. >> It's like But but it's not. >> Oh, it's kilometers per second. >> Yeah. Or like kilometers per meter or.

something like that lot. Again, I'm. going to have to, you know, kind of. brush up on my metric system uh. measurements, but I don't believe it's. kilometers/h, lad. Uh but in this in. this case, let's say it is. Yeah, he was. he 34.86 km per hour. Uh that actually. set a uh Guinness world record. Unfortunately, no one from Guinness was. at the game, lad. So, it cannot be. authenticated. Adjudicated. Adjudicated. Yeah, the adjudicator. Excuse me, lad. Uh so, it will not be in the next book, which obviously very close to Christmas. season. Yeah, a lot of young lads will.

be getting the the big thick Guinness. Book of World Records, you know, from. Santa Claus. Maybe that won't be on. >> That won't be in there, unfortunately, lad. But but it it you know, let's let's. say what happened. >> Let's say what happened. Uh that is a. world record, lads. It's just. unfortunately the adjudicator was not. there. >> Okay, Gumpy is 38 km per meter, right? Or or are they going kilometers per. hour? >> It's 38 km an hour. Yeah. >> Okay. An hour. >> An hour. >> Yeah, you got to drop that in there, lad. You know. >> Yeah. There we go, lad. You know, learn. something new every day, lad.

>> What would 38 km an hour be in miles per. hour? Do we. >> fast lad? >> As fast as Caleb Williams. >> Much faster than Caleb Williams, lad. I. know he looked but but that's a bit. deceptive, lad. I think if we, you know, look at what Jonathan Taylor was, you. know, at his top speed, lad. Much. quicker than Caleb Williams, lad. >> What do they have Caleb in kilometers. per hour? I think because it was back. here in America. >> No, exactly. Excuse me. I just swallowed. a June bug, lad. Uh that that was state.

side. So obviously I'm not going to have. as as accurate of stats because I was. boots on the ground, you know, in the uh. the stadium there in Berlin, lad. >> 35.4. km per hour is 22 miles an hour. >> Okay. >> What' you say? 38. >> I don't remember lad. I may I want to. say maybe been like 35.46. I know I had like a 46 or a 48 in there, lad. But yeah, that was pretty close. Uh, I'd say that's, you know, a pretty. accurate reading, lad. >> Yeah, I'd say. >> So, you know,

>> it might actually come out. >> It actually might be pretty pretty. similar to that. It really, you know, McQuade stats. I mean, >> just pulling them out of your ass. >> Exactly, lad. That's the way it works. >> And you could have guessed that up a. little bit to be a true McUade stat. >> Yeah. And if I'm being fair, lad, I. think in my head I was thinking that was. going to be like 30 to 35 miles an hour. I don't know why, but clearly it wasn't, lad. Stats don't lie. That's That's. probably pretty [ __ ] accurate, lad. to see. >> truly. >> top five perform for offensive lines. Congrats to the Colts, the Lions,

Seahawks, Patriots, and the Bears. That's the first time the Bears have. been on, right? >> No, they've been on the last couple. weeks. >> Yeah, they were last week. >> They're rolling. >> Oh jeez. Good for me paying attention. I. need to pay attention more to them. I. love that. Caleb around the edge. outrageously fast. Good for Ben Johnson. Good for all the offensive lines. As we. pivot from the O line in the trenches, let's go to the defense. Ladies and. gentlemen, it's time for good D and bad. D in the everything DB world of Darius. Butler. >> Yes, sir. >> We got some we got some good ones this.

week. Uh we know with this game and how. it ended up right here, 3520. So, a two. possession game right here around. midfield. Big fourth down pre- snap. Obviously, manto man up top. A. man-to-man situation. Looks like middle. closed, but down here on the bottom, we. got Bourne, KD, and McCaffrey kind of. out wide. So pretty much this is a bunch. formation for this defense and they kind. of play a bunch adjustment to it. So. it's going to have five defenders on. those three receivers and you let it. run. It's going to be almost like a box.

situation we used to call uh AJ but we. have an extra linebacker in the middle. So box is basically hey as that safety I. got deep inside corner I got deep. outside then two underneath defenders at. corner right here on the outside low. outside and then low inside. You got two. low inside defenders here. So it's. really nowhere to go. CJ uh not CJ, CMAC. McCaffrey, he's going to curl up right. at the sticks. If M. Jones can kind of. step into this and make this throw right. on time, right on target, maybe he gets. the first down, but Emanuel Forbes does. a great job breaking on the ball, breaking on the tensions, tapping it up.

in the air. We talk about tips and. overthrows all the time and making a big. play on the ball. Obviously, the pocket. started to get muddy. Kind of double. clutch. Shouldn't never want to do that. and fade away, but great play on the. ball by Emanuel Ford. >> Do you think it's M. Jones or the. defense? And what are your thoughts on. M. Jones play against the Rams? Uh, I. mean, I think overall M. Jones is still. a very, very good quarterback. It would. be a conversation on who would be the. starter. Once Brock Perie is fully. healthy, if the money wasn't so. different, it would it would be a real. quarterback controversy, but I think. when Brock Party is fully healthy, he.

will be the starter. But M. Jones, I. think he has made himself a lot of money. this year, and he's definitely extended. his career for a long time. We know how. valuable that quarterback position is, and this is a very, very tough defense, and they were kind of playing behind the. eightball for a large part of this game. Super Bowl uh contender type defense, the Rams. >> Absolutely. Absolutely. I mean, they. kind of gave the Eagles a run for their. money last year in the playoffs and the. Eagles, a lot of those players said, "Hey, that was the toughest team we. faced along the way." And now with. Stafford, the way he's playing, absolutely, his defense is coming along.

long way every week. >> I said that last year. Just saying. >> What? >> The Rams are going to beat the Eagles. Remember, it didn't happen, but. >> Oh, nice. So what. >> they're pretty close to you. >> Tell me this, Joe Donardo. What What did. you forecast? What What did. >> that They were damn good team. >> You forecasted that they were they were. in the playoffs. Yeah. >> Yeah. Everybody had them as like the six. though. >> They were the second best team in the. playoffs last year. >> Oh, that was when you hated the Eagles. though. Remember that hurt sucks.

>> Yeah. The best offensive line. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I remember. Let's get back to the film. >> Moving on. Marlon Humphrey a all. everything DB slot defender last year. you know he's had some ups and downs. this year as his whole team and this. whole defense has third and one. situation nine to 10 ball game right. here the Vikings are actually up so. third and one around midfield kind of. four down territory so a shot a place on. the field where you can definitely take. a shot Marlon Humphrey's obviously been.

around it's third and one you're on the. island when you got 21 personnel it's. only you actually 20 this 22 personnel. 22 personel. only you and Justin Jefferson out there. I'm not giving up the big play. He stays. on top. Does a great job of stacking. Justin Jefferson. Justin Jefferson, I. don't know about the effort level in. this route and definitely about the. effort level after the interception. Like he's not interested in getting. there and trying to make this tackle. Don't love that. But a great job by. Marlon Humphrey staying on top, keeping. his eyes back on the ball. That's.

incidental contact. Both of them have a. right to the ball and then making the. pick and then obviously getting some. return yards to set your. >> good for Marlin too. He needed this, right? >> He definitely needed this. He had a. pretty good a very good year last. season. Uh has had been in and out of. the lineup. Has taken a bunch of [ __ ]. for his podcast off the field. Some. things that he said. He always has his. ex account uh getting people riled up. But this is a big time play uh for him. against one of the best wide receivers. in the National Football League. >> Yeah. And Justin Jefferson uh after the. interception, let's just not get hurt.

But that's what he's thinking. Yeah. That's what uh that's what I think is. probably going through his mind. We have. seen obviously people. haul ass to try to make those play. >> metaf we've seen yeah. >> legit all those types of things agreed. we've actually we've also seen people. not you know go after it but on that. note we think Justin Jefferson probably. should understand people are watching. >> uh people are watching we need at least. an attempt at an effort. >> you're you're kind of I mean loafing. like this it's a different league if. this was kind of when we're playing or a.

little older like cuz we're taught to. block quarterback and intended receiver. and you can see Rocoan Smith who's kind. of a throwback back. He's damn near head. hunt. So if maybe if he's half ass and. that's really coaches tell you all the. time that's how you get hurt not going. full speed and I'm sure Justin Jefferson. cuz I would assume KOC talked about this. on tape because you got to be showing. effort if you're the highest paid player. and the best player on the team. A lot. of times guys are going to follow your. lead and we know what what Jefferson is. in this league. He's a great competitor. week in and week out. So uh this isn't. him in the best light. So he'll learn.

from this as well. >> Absolutely. Those quarterbacks after. picks what used to happen to them. Oh. yeah. Oh my god. >> Oh yeah. >> That's what you're taught. Yeah. Intended receiver, quarterback. Kill. them both. That's what it used to be. taught. >> Yeah. Nearest intended receiver, nearest. receiver, right? Cuz they're probably. going to be the most athletic person. They have eyes on the ball. They know. that you have the ball before everybody. else. Let's not worry about the big. guys, okay? Let's not worry about the. big guys. We should be able to get. around them. Uh and the quarterback also. knows the pick happens before anybody. else because they are watching it. happen. So, if we can get the. quarterback and the nearest or the. intended receiver, that would be the.

right play. I didn't really learn that. until I was like around you guys. like. the football community a little bit. more. Oh, that makes a lot of sense. Then you started watching back then. >> Oh yeah. >> And it was like after a pick, you just. go watch the quarterback and it's like. there's three, four people like let's go. ahead. This is the time. This is a. return. HEY, SORRY ABOUT IT. YOU'RE. [ __ ] ON defense now. They they used. to try to and then through. >> quarterbacks know that. They knew that. as well. Like they they put their head. on a swivel and decide, hey, I may not. uh I may not go after this dude as hard. as I would. When you have like four D. lineman all head hunting you for sure.

>> What was it? Was it uh what's that sweet. boa from BYU? Zack Wilson. >> against Coastal Carolina. I think there. was a pick. He threw a pick. It was. Thursday night game maybe if I recall. >> And uh it felt like an old school thing. >> for the Coastal Carolina Dline. They put. him on the ground and then they were. like punching him through. If my memory. serves me right, it's the teal field it. was happening and there was like two two. guys pick up Zack Wilson and like drive. him into the ground. And it obviously. looks wild because it was just a few. years ago or whatever, but back in the.

day it was like to AJ and D. I didn't. know this coming into your guys' world. It's like, yeah, we get a free shot on. the [ __ ] most important guy on the. other team right now. We get a free shot. on this guy right now. Let's go ahead. and do that. They had to change rule. Defenseless. They had to change rule and. make a defenseless play just like. kickers and punters. Yeah. Here it is. Right here. There it is. Yep. That was. it. >> cuz it was co remember? And they opted. >> Yeah. They decided to play him like. that. >> The ref's like, "Are you kidding me? THIS AIN'T 2003, BUD. >> WELL, AND I THINK I I there was other. stuff that went into it, but I think.

that's what really made the bounty gate. thing get really loud was in the. playoffs. I want to say it was Saints. Cardinals and Curt Warner threw an. interception and got and you know, at. the time he was like 40ome and he got he. got [ __ ] blasted. So he's like dead. I think he like you know lacerated. kidney like something like that. And. then after that it was like hey what's. going on here? What are these guys. doing? >> Yeah. So they I mean that used to be. your guys' [ __ ] though. That was a that. was I will say that was the most. alarming one when I came into your. guys's world like into the football. world just not at the time when I was. told I was like oh that's makes sense.

that's probably how you should view that. thing and then you watch it in real life. in the first person it's like you see. three dudes like eyes like as soon as a. pick happens they're not even looking to. block anybody they're looking directly. to where is this [ __ ] [ __ ]. quarterback at and then it's like you're. literally getting hunted on the field. corner. >> [ __ ] this was nasty. >> yeah that was a crazy thing I think a. lot of quarter Quarterbacks are a lot. happier uh now that that is a a penalty. and we are ruled defensive. >> and we played with a quarterback Luck. who when he threw a pick he was full. like he thought it was a damn safety. He.

was like, "Hey, Drew, chill, bro. We. like we we need you real quick.". >> He used to he used to die lay out with. his. >> Yeah. >> I'm going to do it. Which goes back to. Patrick Mahomes in Texas Tech. Soon as. he gets on stage, has his earphones in. You need to stop getting hit. And he. goes, "I'm delivering the hits." And I. go, "Fuck it. That's the problem right. there. That's that's the problem right. there." But some of these guys, they. feel like they're disrespecting ball if. they don't do that that type of stuff. Which is an interesting dynamic in and. of itself. Mahomes Mahomes definitely. won't do that on interceptions because.

that's actually what uh destroyed Rashid. Rice's leg if you remember. Mahomes. sprinted down after the interception, you know, laid out trying to make a play. and he just happened to blow Rasheed. Rice's leg up. >> Scary situation. Oh, yeah. >> That's when you're reminded it's real. football, >> you know, like a kicker will get a mix. I I think it happened a couple years. back. >> Hoska. >> Yeah, >> I love Hoska. I got a chance to meet him. and talk about him, but his his family. was not happy with me saying, "Hey, Henry Goose Anderson was definitely in. the right to block you. You need to know.

that that block is potentially coming. because if he doesn't block you and you. make the tackle, Henry Goose Anderson. potentially cut from the football team.". Now, do I think he was a little. aggressive on his block? >> It's football, >> but just like in this situation, >> signed up for. >> We did a judge Pat on it and you. exonerated him. >> I did. >> Yeah. So, >> just because hey, when you're out there, there's a chance football's going to. happen. There's a chance football is. going to happen. And you cannot not know. that because just watching dudes get. [ __ ] obliterate. Just.

>> I was jogging down the field, jogging. down the field against Buffalo Bills. Ellis Langster, former teammate of mine. at West Virginia. I'm jogging down the. field right here. Okay. He's on uh our. left gunner. It was a punt to the right. I do believe he came all the way around. Okay. Would have never seen him. Okay. I'm jogging down the field. Would have. never seen him. >> He comes running right by me. He goes, "I could have [ __ ] killed you.". >> And then he just jogs right by and I go, "OH MY GOD, THANK YOU for not doing.

that." Jeez Louise, thank you for not. doing that. It's like it was at that. moment where I was like, "Thank God it's. [ __ ] Ellis, first of all, cuz even if. it's a little bit after the play's over, that person's still doing that." And it. was like a wakeup call every time we. swivel. >> And then his coach is going to be like, "Hey, why don't you kill that guy? There. he is. That's my boy. >> Yeah. Yeah. Come on. We have some times. But he literally I could kill you. I. could [ __ ] like oh drive. It was like a. drive by like oh my god. Yes, you could. have. Thank you for not doing that. Head. on swivel out there. Especially if. you're throwing a pick, but they try to.

make it a little bit better now. Sorry. about uh directing away from the good. deal. Let's get to some more of that. >> Let's get back to it. Uh back in this uh. another NFC West kind of blowout, but. we're late in the third quarter. Fourth. and five. You score right here. it kind. of becomes a much closer game. Obviously, great. I mean, we don't see a lot of. football. I don't know if I've ever seen. a pass break up this phenomenal. We. always talk about playing through the. ground through the entire catch. And. from this point, you probably just think. diving catch. Maybe Marvin Harrison Jr.

just drops it, but just watch how. >> Pritchette finishes this PBU. Just the. body awareness, the ball awareness to. finish this while you're diving to. completely turn around and make this. play in midair. Just a unbelievable. pass break up right here. >> How cool would it be to be able to throw. two punches in one jump. >> It's crazy. >> Throws one, misses it. Still floating. Oh, I can get this on the backside. Just. the wherewithal of where your body is. We talk about the Omar Cooper Jr. catch. because of how impressive it was for.

Indiana for his body control. This guy. still knowing ah he's not down yet. We. still got time and locating and pinpoint. accuracy on that. >> insanity. AJ Hawk. >> Yeah. You know what it reminds me of? I. don't know if you guys had the little. picture when you were a kid in your. elementary school rooms where I believe. a frog is getting eaten by a duck or. something and why it's in his mouth. It. has his hands around the duck's neck and. it says, "Don't ever give up." I believe. it's something like that. That's what. this kind of reminds me of. >> I'm talking about the same picture. You. know what I'm saying? >> Yep. Way to illustrate that. I had the.

same picture. >> Don't ever give up, man. Shout out to. Jimmy V and uh also the duck and frog. poster in our elementary schools. I'm. gonna think about that when I'm jumping. through the air and I miss on my first. pass breakup. >> It's going to be a frog and a duck. One. of them's going to kill the other. Don't. ever give up. >> I'mma break that up. Incredible play by. Pritchard. And thank you for that trip. back in time there, AJ. That was. miraculous. Go ahead. >> Talking about incredible plays. Another. one in a twominut situation.

>> Yes, you do. But you might get arrested. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Go ahead. >> Around midfield. First and 10. Two-minute situation. 17 seconds left on. the clock. We all know how this game. ended. But up in the top of the screen, cut split. You're going to get a. crossing route, which in man-to-man. coverage is probably the toughest route. to cover with the guy running across the. field. Just watch Derek Stingley Jr. >> Tailpipe. You're not tailpipe. >> Tailpipe and then undercut. And it's one. strict rule with all the coaches that I. played for. When you are undercutting a.

pass, you better make sure we used to. say two hands on it, but it only took. one here. Just an unbelievable. play by Derek Stingley Jr. This is why. he became one of the highest paid. corners in the league. This is why. you're also drafted number three overall. at the cornerback position. >> So, Trevor Lawrence or him? >> The ball was a little behind them, but I. think even with the a perfectly thrown. ball, and a lot of people think crossing. routes are easy to throw, they're not. He's got a little traffic in his face. and if this is routes on air, if this is.

against scout team, this is a catch, maybe a catch and run. But that is an. unbelievable, not only great play, but. just the confidence to undercut that and. then get out there one hand and just. snag that thing. Unbelievable play by. Derek Stingy Jr. >> Hell of a game for the Texans, obviously. exhilarating for them. They go 26 to. nothing in the fourth quarter, second. half to win. Fourth quarter. >> Yeah, 26 and in a fourth, which is. outrageous to think about. Jacksonville. Jaguars, horrible loss for them. Houston. Texans, maybe a culture shift win for.

them. >> You see both corners. We talked about. that tailpipe situation. Both corners on. these crossing routes kind of in the. tailpipe. Last he was ready to undercut. as well. And you got to have confidence. and you better get your hand on that. damn ball if you do it. >> Yeah, cuz I guess that's out the gate if. you can't. >> Speaking of out the gate, Kyle Williams. tight split against M Ben Morrison Jr. down here. Man-to-man coverage once. again kind of starts out similar. steps. out a little bit to outside his frame. Goes to undercut. >> Boom. Ball over the top. Perfectly.

thrown ball. >> and then up the sideline out the gate. for a big time touchdown to tie this. ball game up. And then watch the pocket. that Drake May had to throw this from. Collaps it from his right side. Still. had to touch hitting his stride over the. top of the undercutting DB. Big time. play by Kyle Williams. >> How crazy is it that Drake has this. touch vision while getting hit and the. ability to get it all? I mean, he's this. guy's like actually special. >> Yeah, he's special. You saw you've been. seeing it game in and game out all all. year long and having that type of.

pressure and this wasn't even in comment. cuz I showed him his play before and he. had obviously already saw it a bunch of. times. He was like this wasn't even. close to his best throw of the game. So, just the hits that he can take, the the. awareness and the wherewithal to still. make these type of plays. But, I'm sure. Comment can talk in more detail about. the throws he made in this game. >> Yeah, it's just incredible what he does. in the pocket with pressure in his face. I mean, that was just one, but there was. one where he rolled to the left, Vea, all pro, unbelievable player, Super Bowl. champions, you know, breathing down his. neck, and he makes him miss and then.

throws it with four guys around him. So, yeah, it's just incredible. And again, he's 23. I can't believe this is my. life. Amazing. >> Yeah, it's pretty cool. It's pretty cool. that you guys up in New England never. gave up. You know, you you obviously had. to turn into a new era. You had to turn. into a new uh page, a new chapter, and. you never you never gave up. You never. you never gave up. You never gave up. You never gave up. You never gave up. >> Never. >> Never gave up. >> You never You never.

>> Oh, >> yeah. >> Was that it, Edge? >> That's That's uh Yeah, it's one of the. versions for sure. >> Bring back. >> one of the versions. >> There's a couple different uh depictions. of this situation, but yeah, this this. paints a picture well. >> Yeah, cuz that's a stork, not a duck. That's one of them longlegged ones. >> Yeah. >> Thin. >> neck. I thought it was a duck, too. When I was. a kid. >> Well, there might be a duck version. I. think it would.

>> Is this. >> big old frog? >> Most of them are a frog and a crane. >> I think that's a toad. >> Oh, >> you think that's a toad? >> Who won? Who do you think won? >> Well, >> I think. >> right now I think the frog wins. That's. a pretty good look because there's no. way the frog's going to be able to get. Don there. Yeah, they're both kind of. suffocating. >> Yeah, but the frog water animal. >> Who gives up? >> Who dies first? >> Not the frog. >> Neither one of them. They never gave up. >> Well, I think bird's getting no air. >> No, >> frog's getting some cuz there's a little.

bit over the head maybe coming in. through the beak. >> I don't that head looks pretty. >> Yeah. So, the frog needs a lower right. shoulder to get a little air in there so. it can continue to breathe. But the. bird's getting none. I I mean, that. frog's hands can't be that big. And that. thing is completely. >> Stark might be dead. I mean that frog. just snapped every single bone in his. neck. >> Yeah. I mean maybe it is just kind of. what's that thing called when you lock. up at right afterwards? Uh. >> rigger mortise. >> Maybe the crane's in rigger mortise. Right.

>> Maybe. frog can hold his breath longer. >> Exactly. Kind of a water thing. >> Yeah. >> Air. >> He's also getting a little air from the. stork's butthole. You know opening on. the other end that he. >> see. But I don't think it's getting. through there. You think it's getting. through there? minoxone. >> Oh, >> you can breathe in a little bit of that. though before he passed out, right? >> AJ, who who do you think wins? >> Uh, I believe the frog strangled him. before he died. >> I think so. Frog looks a little bit more. like a dog, too. I think just strictly. because the birds have those dainty long.

legs, maybe. I don't believe in him. Frog's got [ __ ] good girth though. I. think they're a little bit more wide. base. >> Yeah, they they do got a little bit more. of an ash on them. >> AQ, who wins this fight here, Frog or. Crane? >> Yeah, Frog for sure. got a better base. I'm always going to lean with the. trenches. >> There's no base though. >> He's got a base. You just don't see it. It's just kind of up in the air a little. bit right now. He's got it. Okay. You. just don't know it. >> Toxic table con man. Who are you odds on. favorite? >> I mean, I'd love to see the picture. zoomed out because if there's like eight. other storks around him, then I.

>> What are they going to do to help. though? How are they going to help him. though? >> They're they're just going to they're. going to pick it out. Yeah. Legs off. >> Yeah. Rip the legs off. >> Frog's not letting go. Frog ain't. letting go. >> Yeah. I guess the frog could potentially. be locked in there. So they would have. to peck at the shoulder blade and kind. of get the leg hands up. >> Yeah, but if they peck they peck hard. enough, they're going to slit that. thing's throat from its [ __ ]. >> Ty, who wins who wins this? >> I'm going to agree with Con man here, you need to see how many other. >> Let's say no other sto ones.

>> Then I I think based on how big this fro. I mean, just looking at it, like you. said, that frog is not fitting down his. windpipe. I mean, look how skinny that. thing is. And if he wants to a very firm. jerk one to the right or left, he's. snapping the stork's neck in two. >> Yeah, he's in a perfect chest supported. row position, he's probably going to row. that neck right through his beak. >> Yeah, it might be a murder suicide sitch. because even if Frog gets past like Stor. gets Frog down, Frog's stuck probably to.

your point about the wind pipe even when. the hands aren't on there. >> Yeah, he can't wiggle out. So frog might. be dead, but Stork might as well because. can't cuz stuck. He got a frog in his. throat. >> Exactly. That's where it comes from. >> He'll have a frog. >> That's where the aggression comes from. >> He'll have a frog in his throat. So I'm. happy we got there D. But who wins? >> Team frog. Oh boy. >> Sweet. Uh, do we have more bad D? >> Oh, we got one more with JSN. Big time. play. Big time playmaker. We talked. about the addition. You pause it here of. Rasheed Shahed who circled down the.

bottom of the screen once again with a. cut split around midfield. Buddha Baker. He's going to dive down from the. opposite side to take that crosser away. from the speed. Rasheed Shahed does a. great job with leverage. So, he's taken. away, but down the field now you have a. one-on-one. And just like we saw kind of. the flip side of Marlin Humphrey with. the Ravens stacking the receiver. This. is what great receivers do. run good. route, great patience out and up and. then he stacks the DB.

>> incidental contact once again box him. out falls and then goes up and catches. the ball. So big time play by the guy. who's playing the best wide receiver. right now in football with JSN. Obviously a great throw from Sam Darno. as well. But the coverage focus on. Rasheed Shahed early. Six-man pressure. They don't get home. Big time play down. the field. >> AJ, they're saying Brian Hartline may be. another coach somewhere. He's calling. plays this year. I think I forgot about. that. And all of his guys are dominating. the NFL right now. What are your. thoughts on that potential move and. everything that JSN's been doing and.

acha and I guess Marvin Harrison Jr. now. with the Cardinals coming basically. everybody coming out of that factory. that Hartine the wide receiver room in. Ohio State has. >> Yeah, obviously Hartine is one of the. best recruiters in the country and he's. one of the best like coaches when it. comes to like technical how to run. routes, how to sit down, find the open. space. I think if Hart Line wants to. leave and wants to get a head coaching. job, there's plenty of people that that. want him. I just don't know what his. plan is. I think he could have left many. times earlier, but he likes where he's. at, I think. >> Yeah. People are also really talking.

about Kubak Kubak now that they're going. through who Kubak's been with in what. years. Brock Perie's best year as a pro. Kubiaak was I think the past game. coordinator or the OC, I forget which. one. Darnold now obviously I I forget, but there's a tweet that has all of. them. And Kubak they're talking about. too with the Giants being kind of the. the bell at the ball with Jackson Dart. >> Yeah, I love Heartline. He he's our guy. our age. I think he'll be a great um. head coach. AJ talked about all the. things the development of the guys that.

come in there and how they are when they. leave and then how ready they are when. they hit the pros. Been wide receiver. youth for sure. >> You don't want Brian Hartland at Penn. State. You say those guys are too. talented. >> No, I would love him. He's I've said. that from the beginning. How good of a. recruiter he is. He gets every wide. receiver. I think he owns Florida, right? That's who he gets all most a lot. of his guys from. >> Great play caller. He's obviously a. great player. I played against him when. he was at Ohio State and. >> I just don't think he's on the list for. some reason. Wait, >> you change that? >> Marcus Freeman was his teammate. He's. doing all right. >> Yeah, he's doing great. James Lauronitis.

is I think the linebacker coach. I could. probably be the DC. >> AJ Hawk maybe. >> No, I think I'm good where I'm at. But. yeah, >> you don't want to coach James. >> You want to coach? How about when. President Trump will say Nick Sabin. needs to fix this. >> college sports? >> I love it. Of course. >> Like I don't think he wants to do that, dude. He's got He's got a pretty. >> It's a lot of work. It seems like a lot. >> Yeah, I know. can do it though. Yeah, you could you actually I think could. >> Yeah, Nick's a guy for that. That's a. funny. >> Oh, yeah.

>> That's a No, I And I assume I haven't. talked to Coach Sabin about it yet. I. assume he'll say, "Hey, thanks for All. right. Give me all these jobs. Everybody. wants me to. I like this job. I like my [ __ ] golf. He's the best." Coach Sabin is the guy. though. If anything, everything DB good. >> Pretty good show today. Hell yeah. >> 3 hours 52 minutes fresh out of Paris. Island. 0400 wakeup call for some of us. >> Would you have went thousand%.

>> AJ. can't believe you made it at all. Uh I. will be there was the text. I mean he. was sending hilarious movie text. messages to me and to the group about I. will make it happen. You know planes can. never doubt agent. >> Yeah. I mean I did actually just because. of how hard it is to get to where we. were especially with it all. But. obviously coming in about an hour before. the show, AJ Hawk drives in. Who is it? Holy hell. How'd you get here? Don't. know. Then you take uh off and head out. of there. We're appreciative of that. entire thing. Um.

I [ __ ] Man, >> it's a great day, >> dude. I'm thinking about it all right. now. Like the 4 a.m. thing. Would you. have done it if you were there? >> Oh, yeah. I had I would had to do it. Yeah. >> Debb did it. >> Yeah, I had to. >> Con man slept in a barracks. Ty Schmidt. was fighting his own battle there. First. to fight. Ty said, "You got it. You got. Marie was coming out of the attic and. the basement, I do believe for Tai. Schmidt yesterday morning. Fought. through it." Shout out to the Marines. >> Got back in the fight. >> He did get back in the fight. That's how. the Marines were talking to Ty, by the.

way. >> Yeah. >> Back in the fight, which is good. It was. a wild experience. >> Yeah. >> Dutch, what what you've kind of now. you're 24 hours removed from it. What. are your thoughts for what we saw in the. morning? Not just the lights, but. everything. >> Yeah. You compare being, you know, my. pops been in the in the military, older. brother, younger brother. You hear. stories about boot camp and and being, you know, having training camp and. things like this, but this this was. different just to watch these and you. see you forget like how young these. people are. A lot of when you see their. faces like, damn, these are kids, you. know, fresh out of high school or maybe.

early 20s and it's a lot of things that. they're learning or being taught for the. first time at the highest level. So, we've seen people that have gone to the. military, maybe grown up with, and then. become completely different people. And. this is just a small glimpse as kind of. why we we walk away from like, "Oh man, that was intense. That was crazy." And. this is probably like somebody watching. an individual period of one of our. practices. We were in there for what, 30. minutes, 20, 30 minutes. So they had. another entire day and this was day 19. So it it was awesome to see. It was. awesome to get up and watch. I hate I.

didn't want to be the [ __ ] just on. the sideline, arms crossed, watching. guys suffer, but uh they they they. weren't paying attention to us at all. It was awesome. That was a funny part of. it because I've had the opportunity to. do this once before, AJ. And the way the. entire barracks or platoon is in a. barrack here, there's a company is the. entire building. There's six platoon per. company. This was the uh Mike, I think. I think. >> Mike four, I want to say, >> I think, yeah, third battalion Mike. here, uh, that we got a chance to see. and they were obviously up in Adam. Uh,

but some of the boys were like, "Oh, I. don't want to go. I feel like bad guy. Debo wasn't the only one." I'm like, "Hey, brother, they have no [ __ ] idea. you're in there. These guys, their. brains are just fullon wool wool war. They're 19 days into this thing. It's. like it's very cool to watch and get a. chance to see it like kind of construct. a disciplined accountable war dog is. happening right in front of us, which is. what the Marines are trying to do. And. uh 19 days in there, some of them look. like they have not done a lot of. physical activity in their lives. Think. about how sore you are 19 days.

>> Yeah. >> Push. Just go do a hundred push-ups if. you haven't done anything in a while and. then see how everything feels tomorrow. And then guess what? We're doing it. more. 200, 300. We're doing all this. And then pull-ups as well. Muscles that. people probably haven't used. >> Just those little muscles and then. you're sleeping for four hours kind of. sleeping. It's very. >> kind of when you know that's how you're. waking up too. You don't like good luck. sleeping when you wake up. Oh, is it. here? Like you always wake up looking. I. cannot imagine the mental games that. plays on you.

>> And they're just trying to hoard you. That was crazy too though, just how. soundly some of those those guys were. sleeping cuz it was we we got in there. probably what four or five minutes early. so we saw some things going on which was. you know loud to the normal person but. you know you just seeing guys just you. know it's 3:59 and you get that. countdown till 4:00 when all the lights. on the on the base go on and it's just. full chaos immediately. >> There was a guy there was the closest. bed to us. >> guy had this blanket up over his. shoulder kind of cuddled up. He looked. really guy above him was up like just oh.

my god there's there's action h. happening there's somebody there's night. watch happening or somebody on go there. are dis are now all in there there's. extra dis in there because Sergeant. Major's also there so they're having it. like it is it was very I don't want to. say loud but there's no like quietness. and there's lights and everything like. that and the guy on the top bunk just. eager I don't want to say eager yeah. probably eagerly awaiting whatever was. about to happen clearly and then right. below him was like such a perfect. depiction. He's just like so.

comfortable. And we're sitting there. with, you know, like seven DIs, okay? And and then retired DI, uh, Bull Rush, old Gart, First Sergeant Gartland. And. like you point that out and they just. get like, "Fuck that guy." And it's like that guy. has no idea that his comfort right there. just literally spiked the DI's like, "All right, we need to a little bit too. comfortable around here. Things are a. little bit too comfortable." Then all of. a sudden, boom, bang. Up here, back. there. Pow! Go walk. Brush your teeth. Shave your face. I don't want to see a.

single hair on there. Has to happen in. less than 30, 45 seconds. Get back here. Line up. Go get your shirt. Where's your. shirt? Get your jacket. Where's your. pants? Where's your boots? Get it back. Put your socks on. Quicker, quicker, quicker, quicker. Where are your socks? Guy dropped a sandal. Awesome. Just what. a moment. Accidentally tries to put them. on, throws one out into the middle. Just. all of us just look at it and go, "Oh. [ __ ]. >> Oh no. >> Oh no. >> This guy might be dead." Di turns. around. What is this? through the entire. thing, banging a bow, we're right back. in there. It's like discipline is kind.

of taught very quick and then the buyin. is outrageous. I mean, we obviously saw. it yesterday with the crowd in a yes, no. answer. We got a yes sir, no, sir. But. in there, the buyin is just like. immediately. What do you need? Where do. you need it? How? And then whenever you. join them, you know, that's why it feels. like such a family. We've all been. through the same thing. The buyin is. real and we've experienced it. We were. lucky to be there yesterday, man. We. were lucky to be down there. What a cool. place. Paris Island. I would have made it.

>> You would have made it. You couldn't. quit. Remember you asked him, "Hey, how. did so like you quit?" Like what? You. tap out, you ring the B. >> No, no, no. None of that. >> You're here. >> You will make it through. Yeah. And we. will see to it. Get injured. It's cool. Yeah. We'll put you in uh you'll be. wearing a little different color over. here and then you'll just have to. restart. Guess what? It's going to be. waiting on you. >> And while you're doing that, you're. cleaning all this [ __ ] Whatever you can. do, you were cleaning everything at all. times. We are trying to create Marines. here. Welcome to Paris Island. What an. honor it was. What an 18 years old.

walking in there. Just think about if. you came from pretty nice little area. You know, I won't be a part of Marines. You walk in there. Hey, how's it going? Shut the [ __ ] up right now. Then the amount of pride that they have. yesterday getting a chance to talk to. all the like families and parents and. ex-marines and everything like that. Once a Marine, always a Marine. But you. understand what I'm saying? Like retired. Marines. So much pride. >> Yeah. >> So much pride in that place. And it's. because of how hard it all is. That's. why you have so much pride. It's like.

football. Like the reason why people are. so happy is because the amount of work. you put in, how hard it is. If it was. easy, everybody would do it. And if it. was easy, everybody would get to have. these great times. It's the hard times. that create the great celebrations. >> I think they are they are ready. >> Yeah. >> All of them. >> They're ready. Like they're ready. Like. we got kids, we got different things. Well, hey, yeah, we'll lay on the line. for our loved ones. wife, kids, you. know, whatever situation. Like, it's a. complete different thing to be ready to. lay on the line for somebody you may not.

even like, you don't agree with, you. don't know, but like, hey, this is what. I signed up for. And then to also be. almost like cuz I I look at anytime I'm. talking to anybody, I still see view. myself as an athlete or a football. player. It's like, you know, football. players, we sign up to play football. because we want to play the game. Like, we want to go make tackles. We want to. score touchdowns. these guys, Marines in particular, they. want to go play the game. They're and. they're ready to go into the game. Tag. me in, coach. So, it's great. It's a. great feeling know like, hey, these. [ __ ] are on our side.

>> Still exist. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Still exist. Still we still got. them. So, that should be a nice message. to the rest of the world. We saw them. We still got Marine. Okay. And uh that is not good for you. You. guys want to do some [ __ ] Let alone. >> all the other branches of animals and. dogs that we have out there. very lucky. that the military took us in yesterday. and uh we appreciate the hell out of. him. All right, Tone, why don't you get. out OF HAMMER DON DON, LET'S get the. hell out of here. Four hours today. >> Good show. >> Everybody knew this was coming. >> Great job.

>> Little to no sleep yesterday. Pretty big. thing. We got to see if we still got it. Might. >> as well go four hours. >> Good. >> Be a friend. Tell a friend something. nice if I change our life. We're in this. thing together. AJ, any final thoughts? >> Uh, no, not today. Thank you, though. You get you get pissed at whatever I do. say. >> Yeah, I'll tell you what. I say nothing. >> I want to leave it to AQ. >> Good call. AQ, anything to say?

>> That was awesome. >> Hell yeah. >> Good. >> Team on me. Great work today, AQ. Safe. travels. Great work this week, Deb. Safe. travels. >> Team on me. Team on three. One, two, three. Team. Goodbye.