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athletes out there doing it enough for. everything that they're putting on the. line. Even some guys, okay, Mr. Vanderbilt for the Lakers last night. Four years on the team, mostly a. defensive specialist in a game one. against Oklahoma City. In Oklahoma City, getting her asses beat, actually. dislocates his pinky so much that it. pops out of his skin and the Oklahoma. City team sees it and get immediately. disgusted. WHAT DO YOU GOT? OH JEEZ. WE. GOT OH. OH, THE BOYS, THE LADS IN THE. BACK SAYING, "NO, that's disgusting.". Now, we're hearing obviously uh that.

he's going to have to get that stitched. up. obviously put the bone back in the. skin, but that's possible at any time. that any of these players injuries. obviously could be much worse than just. a pinky popping out of their skin, but. that is certainly something that is very. gruesome and disgusting. So, we. appreciate what all these guys are going. through every single night for us to be. entertained in the sports world. The NHL. swinging a hot bat. And guess what? The. hottest bat of them all might be in. Colorado over there. >> This mile high team in the Aval, they're. bigger, stronger, tougher, and better. you. Yep. I mean, that's just what they. are. coming into the Stanley Cup. playoffs, everybody that knew hockey,

which is obviously not who we are. claiming to be the super duper hockey. experts, but everybody that is deemed. hockey experts go, I mean, that's just. tic-tac-toe right there in the play that. that's against a very good Minnesota. Wild team. They're just basically. playing with them, playing with them. That's goal, that's goal, everybody's a. goal. McKinnon's killing people and also. scoring goals. This team coming into the. playoffs is being talked about as maybe. being one of the best in the history of. hockey with how great they are with the. run that they can go on. And they're. proving to do just that. They are. pounding teams. And it's not just. scoring more goals, height. It's not.

just scoring more goals, it's beating. the out of him. Here's Quinn. Hughes, obviously American legend. We. appreciate him. S McKinnon, star of the. Colorado Avalanche, obviously superstar. Quinn Hughes lost an edge a little bit. there, but let's look at this one here. >> Night night. That's down 52. The. Minnesota Wild Guy getting bodied off. the thing by the star of the other team. late in the game. It's just like uh this. Avalanche team is rude. This avalanche. team is strong and this avalanche team. will uh ACTUALLY GO AHEAD AND BANG BUNCH.

A REF RIGHT IN THE HEAD as well. It is a. avalanche run kind of like an avalanche. happening in the NHL playoffs. It'll be. exciting to see who can keep up with. them. The NBA obviously always. delivering. We have Gary Bman the NHL. commissioner. Kendrick Perkins joining. us today. Cam Young, PGA Champion. multiple time now this season. Obviously. an absolute superstar. And Pete Crow. Armstrong of the Chicago Cubs joining. us. So, we have a pretty big little. sports day here and we're thank thankful. for it all. Also, junior rap sheet will. be joining us here in a matter of.

moments because there's big NFL news. Let's go to the toxic table. Have Boston. Connor and toxic tone con man playoffs. delivering every single night. Always. having a little bit of controversy as. well. You know, always a little. controversy. Last night, >> LeBron James was facing his biggest. underdog spread in the history of him. playing the playoffs, 15 and a half. points. And I thought to myself, as. somebody that is a LeBron supporter, has. been since the beginning. >> LeBron's going to war right now. The. biggest he's ever, you know, had to kind.

of take on, I'm going ride with him. Okay. I'm Why not? I never know if this. will happen again. I'm going to ride. with him. >> Then the other thought was I just. watched the Knicks just absolutely. pummel a team. Oh yeah. And this. Oklahoma City team is kind of been a. team that is not scared to kind of. pummel a team. And with this Lakers team. get pounded by this Oklahoma City team, there's certainly a chance that that. could happen. Is LeBron about to lose by. more than 15 and a half? I don't care. I'm riding with him. So, I ride with. LeBron plus 15 and a half. I also bet on. Shay to have at least 25 points cuz he.

scores 20 points literally in his sleep. >> Every game. Yeah. >> What happens? Shay doesn't score 20. points for the first time since he's 12. years old or something like that. I. forget the number. It's been forever. since he's done it. So, I lose that bet. LeBron plus 15 and a half. No, nowhere. near. No way. >> Shay scores 18 points and they just. pummel the Lakers. LeBron was asked. afterwards like, "Hey, what how do you. think you keep up with this team?" He. goes, "I mean, let's just be honest. Luca Donic is Luca Donic because he. scores more points than anybody else. He.

averages like 37." We don't have 37. points. Do you know what this game would. look like if we had 37 more points out. there? That would certainly be great. But the thought about the conversation. about this Oklahoma City team is. obviously JJ Reic attempted to eliminate. SGA. Every basketball person that we. talked to this morning was like JJ Reic. is a little bit of an extremist. He's. certainly going to do what he has to do. to try to eliminate the rest of the. Oklahoma City team. Absolutely dominated. con man. And you ended up picking I. believe Oklahoma City minus 15 and a. half whenever you were push come to. shove to Gambbo a little bit I think.

And you looked up what happened in the. regular season between these two teams. This might be a four no more. >> Oh yeah. Oh yeah. >> type series here and I don't like that. at all. Con man. >> Yeah. You're uh referencing the 4-0. OKC. was 4-0 against the Lakers in the. regular season and their average margin. of victory was like 29.9 points. So 30. points they were basically beating the. brakes off of the Lakers uh. consistently. Luca Donic you mentioned I. believe he got hurt actually against OKC. in the last game that they played.

against one another. Now the whole like. hey 37 points is a difference for. missing Luca Donic definitely huge. Uh I. saw yesterday they were talking about. Donovan Mitchell being number two in. playoff points per game uh you know per. you know every single year whatever all. time and Luca Donic is actually fourth. So it is a massive loss. OKC is also. dealing with their second best player. Jaylen Williams being out. That's huge. You know you think about that. So both. teams a little banged up but yeah this. is why the NBA playoffs are just. different than the NHL playoffs. you. know, the NBA playoffs, we're talking.

about the greatest basketball player of. all time getting the doors blown off his. team by the Oklahoma City Thunder. Like, that doesn't really happen very often. >> You put a pause there real quick. You. just said with like an exclamation. point. >> He did. >> Did Foxy, did you hear that? >> The greatest of all, >> basketball player of all time. It's got. a 9-year NFL vet, Darius J. Butler, here. joining us. Uh, Dut, you look incredibly. cool. Great week. Appreciate you. traveling up here as always. Love it. Uh. Connor just I believe kind of. >> put a stamp on.

>> He did. He kind of just put his flag. down. >> I don't know why we're doing this. >> This is a very I've never been a Jordan. or LeBron guy, but when it comes to just. basketball as a whole, he's the only guy. that's top 10 in every single category. >> Da Connor is just saying the same thing. that Kyle Hamilton's saying. Baltimore, it's sad. >> Some people will leave this [laughter]. earth and not think LeBron's the. greatest. Gotta be like living life in. black and white. Yeah. You know, there's. a lot of upgrades, you know, now they. got 8K, 9K. He's saying, "Hey, you're.

you're talking real old school if we're. not talking about this guy being the. greatest." I would like to let everybody. know I do not uh participate in this. particular debate strictly because I. think they're playing two different. sports. >> I think. >> I think they're playing two different. sports. >> I think you participate a lot over the. last week or so. I think the sport that. was being played, okay, that Michael. Jordan completely changed, >> completely evolved, flipped on its head, certainly by far absolute dog in the. history of dogs. I think he's the. greatest. >> in that particular game.

>> Okay, >> this guy, I do not have memories really. without this guy being the best player. to ever walk. I don't know what I'm. supposed to do. I'm 39. I got my second. child on the way. Okay, >> I'm into a second career. Pretty deep. into this thing, this guy is still doing. it. >> Amen. >> I don't know how the most playoff games, the most points, the most this, the most. that, the most. But he doesn't have. Michael Jordan's killer instinct, they. can't do what MJ did. I haven't seen him.

go cradle underneath the thing. And it's. like, okay, are we nitpicking. everything? Two different sports. LeBron. would have been great back then. Jordan. would have been great now. Greatest of. each sport. Sport that I'm alive for to. watch. LeBron's definitely the guy. Last. dance did not help. I had a lot of. people tweeting me telling me that I. need to watch Last Dance and like learn. basketball a little bit about what. Michael Jordan did. And it's like really. do I need to do that? Cuz I saw some. misses. I had never seen those before. from Michael Jordan. I'd only seen the. makes. I had never seen a single miss. And I was seeing some of the other. people that were he was playing against.

and they were dribbling that ball as if. they were on the Harlem Globe Trotters. as the highest dribblers in the history. of dribbling basketballs. I mean, it was. just it was tough for me. They would. both be great. They're both the. greatest. >> I'm on the fence. >> They're both great. >> There there's errors. Like, you we can. go all the way back. >> and I mean, I wear Jordans every why. we're doing this. This is our point. This is not. We're going to talk like we should go. all the way back to Bob Koozie. We. shouldn't just go to We should go to We.

should go all the way to the 50s. Koozie, then Russell, then of course the. Mike. How can we leave out the Mike. drill? Then we can go to Dr. and Magic Johnson and Larry Bird. But. really, if if we're talking about. greatest of all times, I mean, it's hard. to put anybody above Bob Koozie just. because of what he. >> No, you already [laughter] you already. said. if we're doing I'm I'm doing everything. Usually, it's just LeBron Jordan. If. we're including everybody, Bob Koozie, baby. And you can throw in Bill Russell. there, too, cuz he won 11 titles.

>> Okay. I'm surprised you didn't try to. sneak in bird, too, just because you. smoke sigs in between. Larry's saying a. lot of stuff. >> We learned a lot about Larry. Larry's. putting up Braun numbers before Braun. But with that being said, 41 years old, he still kind of kind of did his part. last night. Look, the team is. overwhelmed, but it's the other guys. We. always talk about the other guys. You. talked, you saw talked about talked. about JJ Re and how he tried to take or. or limit SGA, but the other guys were. hitting a bunch of shots. That was not. the case for the Lakers. Austin Reeves. didn't really show up. Aiden had a.

double double, but he wasn't really. impactful. Ruy kind of did his thing. They missed a ton of open shots. And. look, this is just a better team. There's a reason why they were 15 and a. half point dogs. They'll win this series. in in in commanding fashion. >> Is SGA flopping? I'm seeing a lot of. theatrics. Ask that question. >> I'm seeing a lot of theatrics. >> That ain't a question. >> WHO'S A BUCKY GETTER? >> 512. first quarter. Okay. Now, Brick Center, I do believe on X certainly took some. liberties on what was a flop, what was. not a flop, what was maybe over.

dramatized, but a lot of it was. happening in the first quarter. It felt. like the tone was being set by SGA to. maybe try to get a call. maybe they. wouldn't give him a call. So then the. internet went crazy. I think there was. maybe a few floppity flops throughout. the game by SGA. But I think there's. also a lot of like he just lets people. know that a foul just happened, you. know, like he's pretty dramatic. >> Yeah. >> Like he is pretty. >> kind of the league, you know, that's the. league today. >> He's zany with it. >> He's Yeah, he's got a lot of pizzazz on. his uh fouls. I think like actual fouls,

though. Like I I after watching him live. last year, and I keep saying this all. the time, and I'm just trying to put. into perspective how TV verse real life. works, uh it's hard for me to act like. SGA getting fouls is the reason why he's. good. Uh whenever you watch him in real. life and it's just like this guy, >> this guy's everywhere all the time and. he's so good at basketball and he's so. smooth. But I think he is a little bit. over dramatic on the actual fouls cuz. Brick Center put one out where the guy. clearly hits him clearly hits him in the. elbow, but then he does a full, you.

know, like a full Got to make sure they. see it. >> Exactly. So I I think there is a little. bit of embellishment potentially. happening, which I think is a uh soccer. thing that happens as well, but I think. SGA gets uh falsely accused of being a. free throw merchant because they think. all his embellishment are flops, if that. makes sense. I think personally. >> and just people I think universally know. how good he is and they get more upset. at the fact that he doesn't have to do. that stuff. I think like you mentioned. the brick center there's multiple in. that video that were fouls for sure but.

people who just watch it just it's. another reason to pile on him. I think. the majority. >> he's flailing. >> Yeah. Well, that stuff. But, you know, Embiid, we see it damn near every night. People do that. Like, both teams argue. about the other team doing it to them. But, it's more so just like, "Hey, SGA, we know you don't need to do this." So, that's why people get so upset about. >> SGA, you play your game, bub. They're in. the middle of a dynasty right now, and. they are very, very good at the. basketball. Uh, let's pivot away from. the NBA, which we'll talk to Kendrick. Perkins here in about 15 minutes. Can't.

wait to catch up with Big Perk. We. appreciate the fact that he's joining us. today. And the NBA has been awesome. Like, it has been a lot of fun. The NHL. has been crushing it and the NFL always. staying alive. Big news kind of broke. yesterday quietly uh via Seafford tweet. alongside Kalin Kaylor. Um the. negotiations between the NFL and the NFL. referees association have progressed far. enough that the union has scheduled a. ratification vote on Thursday night and. they're not scheduling a vote for no. reason. They think this is a vote that. could potentially get passed. Now, will. there be bickering amongst the ref's. association and maybe a vote does not.

come back? Yes, possibly. I guess. anytime you have a vote that is. certainly possible, but I don't think. this ref's association is uh one that is. dissected much. They are. >> they are a tight bunch. >> So if they are putting it to a vote, I. assume they've already made that. decision. Congratulations to all. football fans if that is the case to. give us more information. Ladies and. gentlemen, joining us now, junior NFL. insider at ESPN, senior NFL insider at. NFL Network. Ladies and gentlemen, make.

some noise. Reduce Ian. >> Rapid. >> What up, Junior? >> I mean, I mean, come on. I also like how. last time we spoke, you guys were. debating Kobe and or uh LeBron and. Jordan, and now I come on, you're still. debating LeBron and Jordan every time. before I come on. >> Welcome to ESPN, baby. Welcome to ESPN. >> Welcome to the family. >> Hey, great to have you. Hey, great. Do. you have any thoughts? >> Is the next segment going to be how. Micah doesn't get any calls? cuz that's. really like dating back to his Cowboys.

days plus Packers plus ref controversy. I feel like that's sort of the next. level of discussion debate. >> We'll see whenever we get to that. It's. right around the corner for sure. But. still, but LeBron's 41 now warranted a. conversation and I think a lot of people. that have sat on these particular. microphones haven't been of the age that. we are. Like I'm 39 years old. LeBron's. older than me. So I have uh grown up. much like how a lot of other sports. media people grew up with Jordan as. somebody they were a fan of. I I do. think we uh come from a different. perspective. But on that note,

>> people do love watching it. We've. learned. I mean, there is just. >> watching. >> the Jordan LeBron. >> Oh, really? >> Yeah. The internet stuff, internet. reactions are just immediate number like. immediate thought. >> It literally happens. I would say just. speak from my group chats, it happens a. lot. >> Yeah, dude. It's an immediate buzz, which is why it became the thing. But. we're not going to continue to do that. >> N we're done with it. >> We didn't mean to. Both times we didn't. >> No, YOU.

>> NO. >> THE GREATEST BASKETBALL PLAYER ON PLANET. EARTH IN THE HISTORY OF PLANET EARTH. >> I mean, that's cuz I thought it was just. kind of a matter of fact. I wasn't even. bringing it up. >> Exactly. Which guys become the whole. thing. And I don't want TO GET INTO IT. >> RAP'S IN A CAR. Rap's in a car. He's got. somewhere to go. >> Thankfully, he is not driving. Please. tell Miss Leah we say thank you for the. time here. All right. Let's talk about. the refs. Okay. Thanks. Big pop. Hi, Miss Leah. Good to see you. Thank you so much for the time. Uh I'm. sure you don't feel like you're just.

wasting life away right [laughter] now. So, we will get to this as quickly as. possible. The NFL ref Association uh. putting this to a vote on Thursday. night. We believe because how tight the. ref's association has proven to be over. the years. This means that this is. something that is passing. This is a. huge huge piece of information as we. look ahead to the next season because. with the replacement refs of the past, it became state fair football and with. how popular the game is, where the. league is trying to go and everything. else we got going on, especially with. sports gambling and amount of money.

being wagered and everything that's. taking place, the replacement refs, I. think would have been a detrimental blow. to the NFL and its steam that it has. going on. I think it's a big deal. Tell. me how we got here, Rap, and tell me. what you think this means. >> Uh, I agree with you. I think this is a. a really really big deal and you know. it's it's weird because you have some. topics like we just discussed that are. hot button and people like have to get. into it, have to weigh in, have to this. is sort of not one of them. You you said. you know use the word quietly when you. talk about the break of this like. yesterday. I would agree because people.

like okay well it's going to get done. Yes, I do think eventually it will get. done. The real story would have been if. it had not gotten done what kind of. disaster would it have been for all the. reasons you mentioned. Uh it certainly. seems like it's headed toward. ratification and you're right, if the. refs association is scheduling a vote, you got to believe that they have. supreme confidence that there's going to. be a deal that their members are going. to ratify. And as far as like what this. all means in kind of, you know, looking. forward, I would say it represents a.

pretty good investment from the NFL and. from the owners in officiating, in. training, in development, in, you know, sort of using the referees more than. just like on Sundays or Thursdays and. Mondays during the season, you know, making better use of them during mini. camp, during joint practices, during. training camp, sort of, you know, shortening the amount of dead time that. they have and just getting them on the. field to work. Um, and I think that's,

you know, that's something just more. reps is better. And I think that's. something that's going to help. The. other thing that I wouldn't be surprised. to see is a little more u focus on sort. of accountability and less on seniority, right? Like more of a focus on if you. are good, you will get rewarded and we. will see it. And if not, then we will. not see you as much and you will not. have as many high-profile assignments. Um, so I think those are sort of the the. hot button important points here is that.

this is going to lead to better. officiating, which is good. >> Okay, so the NFL wanted all those. things. They wanted accountability, they. wanted offseason work, they wanted a. little bit more of that. The NFL ref. association, I believe they wanted more. money. I believe that was a part of the. negotiation. We can assume that both. sides probably put their swords down for. a little bit of an agreement. And do we. expect the NFL Ref Association uh to. come out of this very very happy and. excited about what the new day could be. alongside technology and development in. the offseason or is this going to be. like a uh a process of weeding out all.

the old refs that are going to hate. everything about this and a newer class. of refs that are kind of coming through. >> now? There there is there has been some. I would say over the last like maybe. four or five years there has been some. weeding out of older refs or refs that. haven't been not nothing related to age. but refs that have not been performing. in a way that um that they wanted. So, we've sort of already seen that. I would. expect the referees association, considering how much sort of drama was. in this, how much angst and frustration.

all the way through. Once you get to a. point where you're on the cusp of a. deal, I would expect both sides to be. pretty happy. But, you know, this has. been like stressful. Like, I started. calling around yesterday when I started. hearing this before Seafford and Kayn. Scoop me. Um, and get. >> I know, right? I know. Nobody would talk. about it because they were kind of like. don't want to mess it up. Don't want to. do anything to spook it or jinx it. Like. I think everyone's in a good place. I. think they just want to get it done. And. it is extremely good for the game that.

it will get done. >> Yeah, I think it is extremely good for. the game. Shout out to the refs getting. it done before the deadline. Okay, that's them wanting the game to get. better as well, especially if they're. being tasked with becoming more. accountable, which no group wants to. contractually sign to. Uh, you know, I I. don't think that is something that. necessarily a union wants to sign up. for, especially when they haven't really. had it for a long time. So, thank you to. the refs for getting that deal done. And. also, shout out to the NFL for getting a. deal done, understanding this a big. deal. I think the money is going to have. I think there's probably going to be a. little bit of a uh. >> if I had to guess, I think those refs.

probably got a good bit about more money. if I had to guess. And uh and the good. thing is none of us will care as long as. they're getting better and. accountability is real. And I think. that's what the NFL had probably. realized whenever they were negotiating. It's like, hey, if we have to tell the. the owners that we're paying the refs. this amount of money, but the game's. going to get better and nobody the fans. aren't going to care either way. Actually, kind of a good thing. We do. this. >> Way to get a deal done. That could have. been a disaster. >> Nightmare.

>> A disaster. >> Yep. >> Last time was not great. >> Oh, AJ was on the field for that fail. Mary up there. I I mean, it is that was. just one play that people remember. That. was every play, every down in the NFL. because there's so many things. Putting. the ball on the right hash or the left. hash or in the middle or the yardage. marker or spotting things or what balls. in the game, whose balls are in the I. mean just like so many. >> just the logistical that is not. even like a real thing. That's every. play. And then obviously in the NFL.

professional football, if the ball's on. the left hash as opposed to right, there's probably a different play call. potentially. So then ball is supposed to. be on the left hash, we're calling a. play in. Well, actually the ball's now. on the right hash. Now look, how is the. ball on the right hash? Then somebody. calls down. Yeah, it should be on the. left hash. Got to stop the thing. Hey, we're going over to the left hash. That's second down now. Okay, that's. second play of the game. I mean, that. that's just one thing. And with the eyes. and everything, with how the league is. viewed, >> THANK GOD THEY GOT WAY TO GO OVER THERE,

RO. >> GOOD WORK, EVERYBODY. >> Way to go, refs. >> Great job. >> All right, let's talk about some other. deals that could potentially be. lingering. Obviously, there's a lot of. bigname free agents still available, but. it feels like one name of interest uh. could have got a little bit more. interesting. Yesterday, Stfan Diggs was. found not guilty on all of his charges. in a very public court case that was. taking place from his chef. He uh Stfan. Diggs has to feel very vindicated after. everything that we saw in this. particular situation and case. Obviously, it was very, very public. I. assume there was a lot of people. watching to learn what the details were.

on this around NFL teams to see where. we're at, what we're at. What does this. mean for Stfan's career, you think, as. free agency looms? And I saw him back on. a treadmill already on his IG story. >> Always working. >> Yeah. I mean, he he [clears throat] has. from the beginning maintained his. innocence. Talked to agent, lawyer, like. they have been adamant to wanting to. fight this because they have firmly. firmly believed that he is not guilty. for a variety of reasons like it will. come out. It will come out and then he. had his day in court and found not.

guilty basically exactly like they said. Uh, I would say this, he is still he's. 32 or 33, still very good, still very. productive. There's a lot that goes into. signing him, but I think he showed last. year with the Patriots with a really. good team. Now, you know, the off the-. field stuff, obviously that got handled, but as a player, it seemed like it went. well. Like, you know, there can be a lot. >> for him, and I think there's been a. couple places where maybe he's worn out. his welcome.

>> in the right situation. it seemed like. it went well and he was good and. productive and reliable. Um, so I would. imagine the teams who were waiting for. this have gotten the kind of answer that. they had hoped and I would expect him to. have a pretty good market because like. you look around and how many. gamechanging receivers are there? I mean. no disrespect to a lot of those players. I mean there still can be some guys who. make an impact but like he's got to be. close to the top of the list among. really healthy players. Tyreek Hill. would be in the same category. obviously.

not healthy yet, but uh this was a very. good day for Stfan Digs, no doubt. >> And Connor uh thinks maybe he comes back. to the Patriots, especially with the. June 1 trade potentially lingering with. AJ Brown. Who knows what the deal would. look like for Stfan Diggs after last. year with the Patriots or elsewhere. Uh. he's always in the best shape. He. recovered from an injury like with no. problem. Let's talk. You mentioned. Tyreek Hill there. Tyreek's been. obviously a topic of conversation. Maybe. going back home for a reuniting of. sorts. Uh Debbut has a question for you. Yeah, Diggs had a miraculous uh healing.

almost. Seems like the same thing is. going on with Patrick Mahomes out in. Kansas City. Any update with the Chiefs. quarterback, Patrick Mahomes? >> So, they're going to have OTAAS in. pretty soon actually. And I wouldn't be. surprised based on the words of Andy. Reid if he's out there, right? It's ACL, it's LCL. The Chiefs have an excellent. medical and training staff. So, they're. going to make sure that if he is on the. field, he is out of harm's way and he's. okay. The thing I would say is, you. know, rehab sucks and players hate it.

and it's miserable and to allow him to. be on the field is a little bit of a. reward for the work he's done. He has. been he has been working like surgery. immediately in the next day for seven. hours like he has been working. So this. feels to me like the team is like you. know what you have earned the right to. be on the field for OTAAS. What I would say is this does not. necessarily mean that he's going to be. on the field when the season starts. That is all very different and that's. really more like medical and training.

like milestones where he hits them. >> If he is not on the field, I think this. team will be okay. And obviously trading. for Justin feels they prepared for this. But either way, whether he's on the. field in September or whether he's on. the field in October, >> he's still not going to be 100,000% like. he was. So, they're still going to have. to like run the ball and protect him for. a little bit this season. >> All right. If he's not 100,000, maybe. he'll be, you know, >> 100 would be cool. >> 99,000 or maybe, you know, 90,000. And I.

know Justin Fields is over there. Nmire. can move and spin it. >> Look out. >> Okay. Nuser can make He's seventh round. draft pick. >> That's going to be interesting. That's. going to be really interesting. >> I don't know. I don't know how he's. going to be in the NFL, but I do know. like he can spin it and he can move and. he's got a lot of moxy. Yeah. So, I. think he'll be liked over there. Uh, but. Justin Fields obviously has NFL. experience and whenever he has the ball. in his hands, he's the most electrifying. guy on the field. >> Yes. >> Now, when he throws it, his owner comes. out and says, "We don't have a.

quarterback and complete a pass.". >> So, Andy Reid fix that. We shall see. Maybe. >> Last question here before we have to. move to the NBA because they're in the. middle of the playoffs con man. Yeah, Rapid was just kind of floated through. the rumor mill, but uh Rogers to. Arizona, does that have any legs. whatsoever or is he probably most likely. going back to the Pittsburgh Steelers? >> Uh no legs for that one. Uh certainly. don't expect Sorry, sorry to disappoint. everyone. I don't expect that. Um do not. expect him to sign in Arizona. I expect.

if he is going to play to play for. Pittsburgh and you know you're sort of. getting to that point where you'd really. like an answer but we're in the same. situation we've been which is that like. it's Aaron Rogers so you don't want to. be like hey we need an answer cuz he. might go no you don't and they don't. like they don't they would like one I. would like one um everybody would like. one but you sort of don't so when he. decides to play football if he decides. to play football I expect it to be for. the Steelers I expect it to be for the. contract where they sort of figured out.

based on the UFA tag. I just you'd sort. of like it to be before OTA's release. mini camp and that's getting to be. pretty close here. >> All right, we'll see how it all goes. We. know he's busy. >> Yeah, super. >> And then when he's done. >> is he. >> getting busy again? >> Yeah, he's working out. >> Yeah, >> working. You mean like. >> he's doing the appre lunch that you and. Leah are about to go to? You know what. I'm [laughter] saying? >> You're the man. We appreciate the hell. out of you and Leah.

Thanks you guys. >> See you rap sheets. Goodbye. Jun. >> I did see someone yesterday say and I. can't remember who it was. It was on. Twitter that you know Aaron did hate. replacement ref. So maybe who's waiting. to see if they get a deal done. >> Yeah. Fail Mary was also a part of uh. his legacy as well out there. Joining us. now from the NBA the association man. that got drafted straight out of high. school. 15-year veteran of the NBA, a. champion and a man who obviously lights. up every television that he pops on. Formerly. would say carry on. Mhm. >> After everything he's kind of buried.

that got everything else that's brand. new, ladies and gentlemen. Big. >> perk. >> Big [singing]. >> carry on. >> Hey, I got greatness behind me, baby. I. got greatness behind me. That was I. listening right? Did I hear Connor. complaining about SGAA and. >> I wasn't complaining, Perk. I wasn't. complaining. I was just kind of saying. what everybody was thinking. >> Well, well, everybody need to stop. thinking that. And that narrative need. to stop because I could remember at one. point in time we used to praise Michael.

Jordan for his ability to get to the. free throw line. We used to praise Kobe. Bryant for his ability to get to the. free throw line. I thought all greats. got to the free throw line. That's what. Paul Pierce used to do when I was. playing with him when his when he wasn't. able to get when his shot wasn't. falling. I'mma get to the free throw. line. >> And that's the truth. >> Yeah. I think it looked a little. >> Oh, let's not act like let's not act. like selling calls just started in 2026. >> Thank you, PERCH.

EVERYBODY FROM THE NBA CARRY THIS GUY'S. WATER. [screaming] I'M SICK OF IT. THIS. IS RIDICULOUS. [laughter]. >> EVERYBODY. JUST said Michael Jordan. >> Did they all do that? No. They went to. the bucket AND THEY GOT FOULED. >> I RESPECT AND APPRECIATE PAUL PIERCE. I. love the way he operates. Hey, everybody. needs to understand that. >> True. I love everything about him. >> Especially. >> Did he GET WHEELED OUT ONE GAME? >> He had to poop. >> Okay, >> that's different. He had to poop. >> Did he have to He GOT WHEELED OUT.

>> LET'S NOT COMPARE. >> I'M NOT SAYING IT'S A BAD THING. >> HE HAD TO POOP. LET'S THIS IS NOT THE. SAME as getting wheeled out for no. reason. [laughter]. >> It was poop. >> Actually, pretty good content getting. wheeled out for no reason. >> Yeah, we saw Lamar do it. >> Kevin Nash, he had to poop, too. >> Exactly. >> All right, let's move along. Uh, carry. on. Let's talk about the Oklahoma City. Thunder. LeBron James afterwards. obviously getting a lot of because. uh he didn't answer something exactly. how they wanted him to answer whenever. he said Luca we got we're missing a guy.

that averages 37 points. It's going to. be hard to go offensively whenever we. don't have that with us. What are your. thoughts about the Lakers chances? How. do you feel about the way JJ put uh. double team on SGA and basically said. everybody else has to score and they. were able to do as such. Like what are. your thoughts as that as a whole there? Is this going to be 4? Is this going to. be 4 over here? Well, well, number one, Bronn didn't lie. So, he didn't lie. They are missing the Luca led the league. in scoring. They only scored 90 points. last night. So, obviously, yes, they're. missing Luca and they need Luca in order.

to stay alive or even be in this series. Without Luca, I got the Lakers getting. one game. This is going to be a. gentleman sweep. But the game plan was. perfect. Like you supposed to walk into. a series and saying, "You know what? We're going to take the ball out of the. best player hands in SGA. One of the. most efficient players to ever play the. game. No, somebody else is going to have. to beat us." And that just showed you. how deep and the depth of the Oklahoma.

City Thunder. and Chad Homegrid, way to. step up. Because what I wanted. to see and what I want to continue to. see is can he be a reliable second. option? Can he be a robin to SGAA? And. he got off to a great start last night. because we don't know how long Jub is. going to be out and we don't we don't. know when JDub when he does return. Is. he going to be 100%? Probably not. We. know how tricky them hamstrings are. So. again, LeBron knows what what a.

championship team look like. He's just. telling you, "Hey, we're going against. the champs. We're going against one of. the greatest defensive teams that we've. ever seen in NBA history." Ain't nothing. wrong with what he said. >> Yeah, I agree. And I'm on team LeBron, though. And Connor actually said. LeBron's greatest basketball player of. all time actually to start this entire. show. So, we kind of got into that. entire convo. >> What's that? >> Good for Conor. >> Good for [laughter]. >> you like that. He took that stand there. YEAH, >> IT WASN'T A STAND. IT WAS JUST A.

throwaway comment. >> It was not. >> It was not meant to be a thing. >> It became a fool thing because it's. obviously this guy's 41 years old and. you know I I think you mentioned it. about the first series like if he wins. this all by himself here. The goat. conversation is over. But what he's. doing I mean he's not done right. He's. playing next year too. We assume, right? >> Uh I don't know. >> Uh he's doing a retirement tour. >> No, he said he's not doing a retirement. tour. >> Oh, did he say that? Okay. OKAY. SEE. HATERS THAT YOU SAID HE'S THE GREATEST. PLAYER ON EARTH. WHAT ARE YOU SAYING? >> THAT DOESN'T MEAN HE'S not going to do a.

retirement tour. We know LeBron. >> Tim Duncan didn't say, "Hey, next year. I'm not doing a retirement." Tim Duncan. just all of a sudden left in the middle. of the night. Okay. >> Great. He's got. >> Yeah. >> Right. >> Yeah. Now that is how you do it. You. don't even bring it up. He already. brought it up and honestly. >> that's cuz we brought it up because he's. the greatest player of all time in your. words. >> He deserves a retirement. >> Okay. Let's move along here. Let's talk. about other basketball happening. Perk, we appreciate you. What do you think? Do. you think he continues to play? >> I I think Braun could play till he's 45. to be honest with you. I think I think.

he has another four years. >> of this level of play. Like real talk. And I I'm not I'm not even BSing. I'm. dead serious when I say this. What he. did like what he's been doing in this. postseason. Last night he did his part. Last night he was fantastic. He just. didn't have the help. and guys in the. back court like Marcus Smart and and and. and you know Austin Reeves, they didn't. they didn't play well. And one thing, let me get this off my chest. >> All right. >> Can people lay off of Austin Reeds for a.

second, please? >> No. >> The guy No, listen. He just he just got. back. >> He's got a peg leg two games ago. Two. games ago. You know, it usually take at. least five TO 10 GAMES. >> COME ON. THIS WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. >> WELL, YOU KNOW WHO'S attacking him, right? shot. Also, >> you know who's attacking him, right? >> Oh, >> LeBron fans. >> No. >> Well, that's why Foxy just put that up. as fast as possible. >> It is LeBron fans. >> He does need help. >> Help the King. >> You just need help. King doesn't need. help.

>> But what I'm saying is we know when a. guy come off an injury, he was thrown. He was thrown right into the fire, man. Like, you need. >> wrap on his leg. >> Yeah, >> he's got that wrap. >> Caruso put him in a bag. Ant-Man tore. his knee off his leg and got back at. nine days. And. >> let's talk about they might be they. might be cheating. I don't know what the. Anthony Edwards got going on. He. should not have been back. That thing. was disgusting. Now, on that note, that. series, you've made some predictions. there as well. Go ahead, D. >> Absolutely. I know coming into the.

playoffs, I believe you had the Spurs. coming out of the West and maybe even. winning this whole thing and you've kind. of changed your tune lately after that. first loss. What's your expectations for. Wimby and the Spurs going forward? Well, look, Wimby, the future is bright. It's just not this year. They're not. getting past the Minnesota Timber. >> And look, Wimpby got to understand in. these moments, I want him to continue to. be a big man with guard skills. Going 0.

for eight from the three-point line, that's not go get it. And I understand. he's going against a physical team. He's. going against one of the better. defensive teams that we have in our. league. But this Minnesota Timberwolves. team, they're playing with a a a certain. spirit, edge, and tenacity. And it. reminded me in this game one, in that. game one, that this team has a lot of. experience. We're talking about a a core. group that has been to backto back. conference finals. And when Anthony.

Edwards said, >> I get another cuss word, right? I always. get two. Maybe three. When Anthony. Edward said, "Fuck what the doctors are. talking about. I'm playing. I ain't. trying to hear nothing. I'm not sitting. out. I am going on the floor and I'm. going to compete with my guys." And he. went out and did it in great fashion. That told me everything I needed to. know. Uh, Coach Finch is coaching his. ass off right now. When you talk about.

the different lineups, when you talk. about him empowering guys, maxing out. guys, dealing with injuries, knocking. off the Denver Nuggets, getting the. crucial game one, Terrence Shannon, all. of a sudden he's empowered. He got the. confidence. That is coaching. That is. coaching. We are watching a coach that. is writing his own legacy right in front. of our eyes. And I'm telling you this. now, the Minnesota Timberwolves can win. the NBA championship this year.

>> Oh, whoa, perk. I like hearing that. Especially if you're able to heal from a. bone bruise from a hyperextension in. nine days and be able to tell doctors, I. don't want to hear it. And then drop 18. off the bench and be an absolute. stallion down the stretch without even. missing a hitch. And is Go Bear going to. be able to handle big big Wii? And then. we were talking to some people around. the league and they're saying if you. look at the Minnesota Timberwolves. outside of the 7 foot10 guy, okay, that's saying tennywise Minnesota. Timberwolves are pretty physically. imposing team. I mean, they're going. through chess. They are they're actually.

kind of about it. You're saying the big. wagon that is the Timberwagons over. there in Minnesota could potentially win. the entire thing this year because I. thought this Oklahoma City's entire. dance. I thought I thought they were. supposed to be the ones that be able to. walk away with this. >> Well, well, here's the thing. We don't. know what Jay Dub is going to look like, but I will say this, Jaden McDaniels. has been one of the best stories in this. postseason. If I had to give out an MVP. award for the first round, he was. getting the MVP trophy. It's not just.

what he did, it's how he did it, right? To talk his noise and to back it up. He's already, in my opinion, the best. wing defender that we have in this game, >> but now we're watching him get into his. bag offensively. >> Jay McDaniels is different, right? and. and and what he's doing right now, I'm. telling you, is just is just you got to. you got to give a lot of credit to coach. Finch and that coaching staff for the. player development and the and the.

confidence that he is putting into these. others outside of Julius Randall and. Anthony Edwards. They are playing with. an edge. And let me tell you, Chris. Fitch is petty as hell, too. I love what. he said after the game. They chose us. after the series. They chose us. He is. playing a a a great He is doing it. He. He his game playing is on point. And. last but not least, he is doing an. outstand outstanding job playing mind.

games with the officials. You heard what. he said after game one, right? Yeah. Wimpy had a lot of blocks and a lot of. them were go like that is putting it out. there. I love this Minnesota Temple Wars. team. >> Yeah, it sounds like you're pretty. jacked up. I like it. Perk might be. overreacting cuz all y'all NBA guys say. every every game takes on a life of its. own. Don't overreacting. They stole one. of the road. It feel like you. overreacting right now. Perk. >> Perk, you're not overreacting. >> Uh over perk,

>> listen. >> I I am not a delusional Knicks fan, right? Like the Knicks, they fan base, they overreact. Like they the ones that. had a parade cuz they won game one. I'm. I still think that series is going seven. games. I think that series is going. seven games because what people don't. understand is when you come off a tough. seven game series and you have a quick. turnaround, one, you don't have time to. prepare, right? Like you can like your. scout is different mentally and.

physically. You're exhausted from all. the energy you had to to put out into. that series and then you have a quick. turnaround. I expect the 76ers to be. better. Here's why I'm not overreacting. when it comes to the Timberwolves. >> When you know, you know. And I'm telling. you, I could feel the energy through the. television. I see A-Rod sitting on the. sideline. They chest bumping. He He. fired up. It's something that is going.

on through that organization that I wish. I was a part of. >> Okay. >> Well, you keep saying what you're. saying. It might just adopt you in. there, pal. I think the timber wagons. are certainly filling up right now. Especially Ant-Man is an easy person to. get to. >> I I mean that that is an easy holy hell. I cannot believe this is happening right. now. >> J McDaniels as well. >> If they were to win a title in Oklahoma. City's league right now. Wow. Would be. insane. We appreciate the hell out of. you, Big Perk. Thank you for taking. time. >> I appreciate it. >> Okay, so you got the Sixers tonight and. you got the Timber Wagons.

>> No, no, no. I No, no. I didn't say I had. the Sixers. I said, I see this series. going seven games. That don't mean the. Knicks are not going to win, but I don't. it's not going to be a blowout again. We're going to see a better version of. the 76ers. Now, I will say this. >> This is a must-win situation for the San. Antonio Spurs. This game two, if they. don't win game two, they're going to get. swept. >> Oh, all right. They're not going to You're not going.

into Minnesota down 02 and expecting to. get a win in that hostile environment. where they're undefeated in the. postseason. This is a must-win situation. for the San Antonio Spurs. This is not. the Portland Trailblazers. Your ass. could go down 02 if you want tonight and. you going to get sent home early. I'm. telling you that now. >> Ladies and gentlemen, that's 15ear vet. and NBA champion Kendrick. >> Perkins. [applause]. He's talking about maybe the Timber. Wagons, becoming champion. How about. becoming a champion in golf?

>> Oh, >> how about winning the players. championship earlier in the year, telling the entire world you have. arrived, and then go ahead and compound. it. Cadillac champion from this past. weekend. Winner by six strokes. Could. have been seven. >> If he wasn't such a a gentleman. >> Yeah, >> great guy. >> Stand up lad. >> Absolutely. >> Ladies and gentlemen, Cameo. >> Yam. >> How you doing, bub? >> Good. Good. It's been a nice few weeks. >> Yeah. Hey, you've been living pretty. good, huh? How how is the mind? Pretty. clear. Have you uh just kind of been. enjoying it all? How have you kind of. handled the massive success? Because I.

believe there's a stat about your first. 103 events. I'm sure you've heard about. the not winning and then all of a. sudden, hey, over the last few, you've. been winning a lot. How has it been. handling the success? It seems like it's. uh only benefited your game. >> Yeah, I think so. I mean, what I've said. for a long time is basically that, you. know, each each good result you have is. kind of proof that what you're doing. works. And, you know, as more of that. stacks up, it's easier and easier to. believe in what you do. It's it's. hardest when it's not going your way to.

kind of believe in what you're doing. And right now, things going well, I feel. like um it's been really nice to kind of. see the fruit of that work and, you. know, start to believe in what we're. doing. >> Yeah. I don't want to get too deep here, but probably your whole family and. friends and everybody, too, right? I I I. assume everybody's like super pumped. like, "Hey, yeah, we've always said. you're the guy. You've always believed. you're the guy. Now you're getting a. chance to celebrate it and the world's. getting a chance to celebrate." I bet. you that's cool for the whole family. Yes or no? >> Yeah, absolutely. I mean, there's. there's a lot that goes on behind the. scenes that is not me. Between, you.

know, all my kids, my in-laws, my. parents, there there's a whole group of. people that deserves probably a lot more. credit than they're getting. Uh, so it's. not not all me. I just am the fortunate. one that gets to do the golf thing. >> All right. Well, shout out to you. remaining so humble obviously as the. bank account continues to massively. grow. >> Oh yeah. >> Just grow through the weeks obviously. Congrats to you all earned in the entire. team. And I mentioned your family, you. know, obviously we learned your story. Your dad like PGA Golf Pro up there, Sleepy Hollow Club, I do believe uh lad.

from Scatter. Uh Sleepy Hollow is the. club. And then I believe you went to. Forom Prep down there uh in high school. Took the train down. We did a lot of. learning about you uh New York kid. becoming this golf sensation, but your. dad obviously you raised you're raised. in the golf world. >> When that ball rolls. >> on Sunday with you in the lead, >> it you're just your first reaction is. holy I can't believe this just. happened and then now I have to say. something, right? That is kind of how it. goes. >> Yeah. I just watched Scotty hit driver.

drive onto the first screen and make. birdie and uh my ball rolls over. I'm. like, man, here we go. Um, so it's just. one of those times. I mean, it moved. I. don't think anyone probably could have. seen it. But, um, yeah, I mean, stuff. like that, you got to think of it. If. you're doing the right thing, good. stuff's got to happen at some point. because of it. Um, and at least you can. feel the good about what you do. So, just one of those times. It was super. unfortunate, but it did move. And, uh, I.

couldn't say that it wasn't me, so just. had to take it and move on. >> Well, I want to let you know, everybody. talks about what they would do in the. moment. what they would do to Sunday. Okay. Scotty lurking. Lurking. Lurking. is the closer. >> He's always lurking, >> you know. And then you're s just hit a. beautiful shot. >> Lot of money on the line. >> So much money. Legacy. I mean, There's so much in there. And everybody. thinks about what they would want to do. I'd be a hero. Yeah, I'd call it I do. it. You actually in the moment did it. Except for that. Hey, >> good on you, Kyle. Good on you, Kyle.

And I hope a lot of people have told you. that cuz for the good of the game and. and in our sport, if something like that. would have happened, I'd say 35 to 85%. of the people would not have called it. Yeah, they would. >> It's a good range. 35. >> 85. Yeah. It's like uh cuz it could be a. >> big range. >> Depends on when in the season is, what's. the game for you yet this year? >> You know, what is the season look like? Yeah. There's a lot of different things. that could happen. But what we're saying. is you're uh you showcased your sport. well in that moment and uh it was a cool. cool thing for all of us to witness. Go.

ahead, D. >> While while we're on there, I just want. to ask you because there are so many. rules in golf and I feel like, you know, we see the guy have to come over the. referee. Is there one rule that you. Look, we have a a high school golfer in. our building who has admitted to. cheating in every tournament he played. in pretty much. But is there one rule. that you would change uh in golf? >> Um, I would change. um I don't know. I mean, golf is strange. in that way because I feel like there's. so many unique scenarios that can go on.

We're just in the habit of calling a. rules official pretty much no matter. what happens, even if it's a very. routine one that we all know. Uh, just. because if they're there, you basically. can't be faulted for it. Um, so I don't. know. I mean, the the ball moving one is. pretty pretty relevant right now. I. mean, obviously I wasn't I wasn't trying. to hit the ball. I didn't try to give. myself a better lie. I had already, we. were playing liftly in place, so I had. already put it basically up on a tee. Um, so there was no advantage to me. doing what I did to move the ball. All I. did was put my club down. So, you know,

that's one of those ones that, you know, obviously there was no intent to do. anything that was going to help me. I. already had the best line I could ask. for. Uh, it seems like maybe that one. doesn't need to be a penalty, but uh, just kind of how it's always been. >> Yeah. But now think about every single. golf coach, every dad or mom trying to. teach their their kids how to golf. They. say, "Hey, on a Sunday in the middle of. a tournament, you call this this is like. you you almost it's a it's a passing of. a baton it feels like of the sport to. another generation whenever something.

like this happens because there's been. the alternate, right, where somebody at. home caught something on the internet, then it became like a firestorm and then. all of a sudden it's like, "Oh, I. thought golf was supposed to be. whatever." So like I love that you did. it legit. I would be that kid that's an. that like he was up he was up. six five strokes. If he was down a. stroke he do it that. >> Yeah. Well, exactly. And also I think. Scotty even said to you, "Who cares?". [laughter]. >> Yeah. Basic. Yeah. He was he basically. just said that there's no way that you.

moved it. And I was like, "Well, I mean. I the timing was certainly suspicious, but I don't really think I moved it. either. Who knows?" So just kind of one. of those you just got to beat. [clears throat] it. Can Scotty like kind. of testify for you there to the rules. official or is that just an automatic. ruling there? >> Yeah, I think it's just a ruling. I. mean, I don't think anyone was watching. closely enough to really see. I mean, you had to be kind of right on top of. it. >> Um. >> Oh my god. >> to notice. >> You're such a good guy. Let's move. along. Okay. Hey, good for you. Just.

Thank you for doing that for your sport. Literally, thank you for doing that for. your sport. Now, speaking of your sport, a lot coming about your sport and we're. not expecting you to give some political. answer, but there is certainly some. things brewing amongst the PGA Tour at. this point. Go ahead, con man. >> Yeah, Cameron, if you don't want to. answer at all, you can just tell me to. shut up and we can [laughter] move on to. the next question. But we had a very. heated debate this morning just about. kind of the reintegration of the live. golfers with everything going on over. there back into the PGA. It felt as.

though the PGA live rivalry over the. last couple years has kind of gone gone. to the wayside and no one really cares. anymore and we're all just trying to. golf. As a player on the PGA tour, how. do you feel about kind of everything. going on? I know Kepka is already kind. of going through the process. Is that. something you think everybody should go. through? Should it be some, you know, different separate thing we kind of. threw out there? Do they be the. groundskeepers maybe [laughter] on. Tuesdays and Wednesdays? days for the. tournaments. >> Thursday, Friday for the tournaments.

Yeah, maybe. >> Hey, we're brainstorming. We're. brainstorming. >> Yeah, just just things that they should. do. Yeah. >> Build the bleachers. >> Build the bleachers up. Take them down. on Sunday, which is even worse. sometimes. >> Just if you guys We'll tell Rollap, too. If you need any ideas, we can do all. these things. But. >> let's turn them into construction work. is kind of that that's what I'm getting. here. >> Yeah. And then once they win a. tournament, you can take off the. construction hat. >> Then it's done. Yeah. Yeah, that's. that's But on that note, >> we assume there is a lot of different. feelings because I think at the time of. Liv starting, you were top 20 in the.

world. I assume that was a conversation. with you about going over there. Massive. amount of money allegedly for everybody. and it did feel like it was you're. taking the money, not going to be ever. going to do business with PJ again. At. the moment, it felt like that. Now we're. at a different time. How does kind of. the locker room feel about it all? And. are you guys even being asked what your. thoughts are at this point? And if you. don't have any, all good, too. Yeah, I. mean I I haven't been asked much. Um, you know, it it's I feel like it's a. little bit tricky because I think it's. been great to have Brooks back. You.

know, he's a fan favorite. He's a great. golfer. Um, you know, great major. championship player. So, I'm I'm happy. to have him back. I think it's good for. the PJ tour. I think it's good for the. game to get to see him more. Um, but I. mean, the tour did have the system that. they put in place for him. they had, you. know, the opportunity this January for. some of those guys, a select few to come. back. Um, and Brooks was the only one to. take that opportunity. So now, I mean, it's it's not up to me, but I think the. PJ tour, I'm sure, will have, you know,

I imagine they will find a way for some. of those guys to come back, but I don't. know if it will be as simple as it was. for Brooks. You know, his relatively. time-wise, you know, he didn't have to. sit out or anything like that. So, I I. really have no good information on what. will happen. Um, but all in all, I mean, I play golf to play golf against the. best players in the world. You know, that's one of the main things that. drives me is to is to compete. >> Yes. >> And. I don't know to to me there's there's a.

handful of really really good players. that are over there and, you know, seeing them four times a year, I' I'd. probably rather compete against them. more. So, uh, if you're asking me, I I'd. probably like to see him back in some. capacity. however they decide that's. going to work out. Um, and you'd like it. to be fair to both sides. I think I I. don't think there's any reason to unduly. punish them uh coming back. But at the. same time, like you said, you know, it. felt like kind of an all or nothing. decision to go. So, um, yeah, you know, up to people smarter than me to figure.

out. >> how it all is going to work out. >> I genuinely don't know if it's smarter. than definitely the people are smarter. than us. Let's say that. But I think it. is like the diplomacy diplomacy of how. it's going to be dealt is certainly an. interesting it's a very because the. February 2nd deadline I believe is the. one you were referring to about books. entering into and I think his contract. was up at the time. Now Rambbo has come. out and said like hey my contract's not. until like 2032 or something like that. and then well they said well what if the. league isn't around him. It's just. there's so many crazy conversations. I.

think all of us just WANT TO SEE. >> WE JUST WANT THE leaderboard to be. packed. But on that note, >> yeah, >> maybe build the bleachers, boys. Yeah. Maybe have to hammer and nail. >> Can't do what you did and just come back. scotfree. Okay. >> Maybe hammer and nail. You know, stacking them barrels out there to get. back into the good graces of the. bartend. >> Yeah. Maybe bartender. >> Yeah. You get cut on Friday. Guess what? You got to work the bar Saturday, Sunday. >> 8 hour shift. >> Maybe Caddy. >> Yes. Caddy. >> Maybe Caddy. >> Nobody. >> Just you walk. >> You just have to walk and stop.

>> You want to walk over and over again. >> First, you are the opening tea, too. >> Yeah. in the opening uh throw your ball. >> Yeah, >> things is just something to think about. But. >> I don't think they want I don't think. they got they want you in charge. I feel. like you GUYS ARE. >> WHY WOULD WE MAKE THIS A LOT WORSE IF. THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR? [laughter]. >> We would like to see the leaderboard. pack though. And you talked about the. four times a year. Go ahead, Tone. >> Yeah, Cam. Uh we talk a lot about here. like when there's a young and upand. cominging team like they have to lose. first before they can win a.

championship. You've obviously have top. fours now in every single major. Uh. coming off third at the Masters. Is that. similar in the golf world where you like. have to learn how to play at a Masters? Maybe learn how to. >> not get the top spot at the Masters. Learn how to have heartbreak at a major. major before you can go and finally get. a major. Is that just a stupid thing for. me to say? >> I like that. >> No, I think experience can help. I mean, I think it can go both ways. you know, you build up kind of too much.

scar tissue and it it stays kind of in. your head negatively, then it can hurt. you. But I think for me, I mean, the. main thing is just continuing to build. belief and, you know, continue stacking. results just so you have so much more to. look back on. And um, you know, I've. played played golf in majors well enough. to win and just haven't quite gotten. over the finish line, you know, and I. don't I don't think generally much fault. of my own. this year at the Masters was. was a really nice chance and I just. didn't make anything on the back nine. I. didn't I didn't feel out of place. I.

didn't do anything wrong. I just didn't. make anything. Um so I think in a lot of. cases, yes, having some high finishes. and, you know, getting some experience. playing late on Sunday in the majors is. great, but uh it it doesn't stop, you. know, young guys from coming out and. having chances to win, too. So there. there's going to be plenty of instances. with, you know, young relatively. inexperienced players winning majors, too. I mean, I'm sure there'll be more. of that in the future. So, um, yeah, it. can be a mixed bag and kind of depends. how you're treated. I think. >> situations are situational. Obviously,

ignorance can be bliss. You don't know. what you don't know, especially whenever. you're just blindly in there. You have. no idea how big it actually all is. And. then once you get too many of those and. it doesn't work out, then it's like, oh. no, now it's becoming a thing, which. obviously everybody hates. But golf. feels like that is a constant kind of. conversation with everybody. Um, Cam, I. have a quick question for you. Nelly told me Nelly Corda. Okay, Nelly. >> Pretty good player. Pretty good player. >> Yes. >> Came off back to back. Her and you. winning. That's what she should do. >> There you go.

>> She told me to go CocaCola. Okay. With. my golf swing. Okay. That's what she. told me to do. >> Maybe a little slower. >> Yeah. >> Coca-Cola. You were still watching every time. Yeah. >> COCA-COLA. OKAY. UM, I can do that with my golf. swing. Can I technically take that thing. >> up to here, over to here to where you. are, and then swing from there?

>> Yeah. Yeah. I mean, the back swing is. basically, you know, lift, hinge, and. turn. So, you could do them all in. whatever order you want as long as you. get up there and you can do it over and. over again. >> Oh, I can do it over and over again. >> There you go. >> Boom. Bang. [laughter]. Boom. >> Yeah. Easy. >> Cola. you know, and I'm not even doing. the cocoa at the beginning. >> Sure. >> Hey, um, can we get on a course at some. point in your guys' off seasonason, which I don't know what it is. >> And, uh, can we just see the difference. of you golfing for us cuz I watched you.

at 12 at Augusta. You didn't say. anything. Thanks for that. Left me. hanging in front of all my new friends. >> Kind of doubted. >> Yeah, you're kind of focused there. >> I was busy. That hole was so hard. >> So hard. So hot, too. It was so hot. >> Yeah, it was a thousand degrees at that. hole potentially. But like watching how. locked in you guys are with everything, I would love to be able to do a round. I. don't think I've ever done a Can I make. that happen? This is kind of me putting. you on a spot publicly here, but I would. like to experience that. I think it. would make me a better conversator about. golf. >> There you go. Yeah, we'll get we'll get. a group together in Florida then.

>> You guys looking at that green was. insane. Like the amount of that was. happening with all the thing. It was. like these guys are killers out here. And I've never even thought of any of. this. >> Yeah. I would love to see. >> Well, you you you get that whole It's. like six yards between the front bunker. and the back bunker. It feels like it. anyway. And you get the 11th flag stick. and the 12th flag stick blow in opposite. directions and you're sitting there like. what do I do? And it, you know, that's. why we're not looking up there in the. crowd. I think. >> I was third row back. I almost got hit. with a ball at one point. Hear the man, ladies and gentlemen. An absolute.

sensation. PGA Chomp. >> Cameron Young. Thank you. [applause]. >> We're back on the other side. Be a. friend. Tell a friend something nice. It. might change their life. I think we're. going to get beat at the golf course. >> Yep. and the commissioner Roger Goodell. making his way to open night two of the. 2026 NFL draft. >> Go. >> Come on, Pittsburgh. >> And here's a familiar face and voice to.

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attendance. >> Maybe. >> Sure. >> That's toxic table at boss of Connor and. toxic tone. Nine-year NFL vet Darius J. Butler is right over yonder sitting in. tone seat as Tai is celebrating life. >> for uh the foreseeable future. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Hey Ty, we love you guys. >> Hell yeah. How you doing? >> Congratulations. So happy for you. Live. from Manatak in Ohio, ladies and. gentlemen, a college football national. champion, Super Bowl champion. >> I just got shown a tweet by a man, Ryder. Cup winner, ladies and gentlemen. AJ. Hawker, like a funny tweet or.

>> Hawker, how you doing, pal? >> I'm doing good. I'm curious about what. this tweet is you just read. Well, the. tweet was uh Joel Embiid at tonight, okay, for Sixers Knicks. And then I said. Stiller was going to be in attendance. obviously because he'll be there for the. Knicks game per huge. And then Bruce. Brown just dropped into this uh little. monitor and he said, "Just want to. remind Ben Stiller, remember?" My man, seriously, I thought we were good. Ben. Stiller put me out to obviously his. followers. Uh Ben, we are good. But but.

but I do have to say. what I saw Timothy Shalomé do, >> he was there. >> was something that I will hold in high. regards. Now Timothy Shalomé came. through college game day. >> Mhm. >> New ball. >> Parking Navaro. >> absolutely crushed it. I mean just. absolutely killed. So I had him and you. know Timothy Shalomé also Dune I mean. Timothy Shalamé you know Michael Phelps. uh Tom Brady that was the speech he gave. after winning an award. >> Yeah the SAG awards. >> super sports super sports guy. Okay. face while I was holding him high.

regard. He could have certainly went to. the to the mech. He said, "I'm going to. the Knicks game." So, we immediately had. to judge his Knicks father, Ben Stiller, >> for not going. >> Yeah. >> But then we heard obviously it's a. family affair. We found some tape from. before the Met Gala that I think will. justify everything that Ben Still are. saying to us. >> Let's go, Nick. >> All right. Yeah. >> I wish I was [laughter]. I wish I was there.

>> Oh, quick, too. In the car. >> Quiet. >> Mhm. >> Veteran in the game. So, we know he'll. be back. >> Yeah, he does. >> Grow up. Go to the game if you want to. go. Ben. >> Ben's a good man. >> Tim, it's our fourth year in the second. round. Happy life. Okay. >> Listen, Bruce. >> Oh, they don't care anymore cuz we're in. the playoffs a lot. >> Are you going to watch the game tonight. or No, cuz it's the fourth time in a row. we've been in second round. >> I'm going to watch the game tonight. It's not like I've been in Madison. Square Garden a ton. I live here. Um but. yeah, you know, he'll be there for all. the finals games.

>> Listen, lunch has been cancelled due to. lack due to lack of attending. basketball. >> No, lunch is not cancelled because of. this. Okay, we ain't we ain't doing none. of that. Okay, he's no average Joe. He's. allowed to do whatever the hell he wants. to do. He's a Knicks heavyweight this. guy. >> And he's not simple. >> Not anymore. He's a middleweight now. >> No disrespect. >> He missed the game. >> What are we talking about? >> We made him bleed his. >> die hard fan. We called him. who took. his seat though. >> Uh Jimmy Fallon, I think it was Jimmy.

Fallon was there. Um now granted his. show immediately followed the game. So I. think that was probably. >> Tracy Morgan. >> I don't know if you Tracy Morgan. obviously in the building. He could have. went to the Met Galla. Peter Shrager was. at the game. He could have went to the. Met Gala. Shabuzzi certainly could have. went to the Met Gala. He ended up at the. game. Not. >> the next fan. >> Yeah. >> One. day. [singing]. >> I know. >> Yeah. Yeah, he was there last year. during the ECF as well. >> I think all Shabuzzi really does is make. bangers. By the way, every song I've.

heard from Shabuzzi is an absolute. smash. So, I certainly appreciate him. doing that. But Ben, you knew we were. going to have to point this out in. sports world. Knew it was going to have. to happen. Now, >> orange tie. >> He wanted us to just sweep it under the. rug, didn't he? >> Ben did that. >> And what were his lady has a blue dress. on as well, too, right? They were on. this. >> See, she was there. He felt like he had. to represent. Obviously, blue steel. It's fashion night. Had to do his thing. Actually, he kind of halfassed. That. That's not That That fit isn't goofball. enough for the Mecca. >> Yeah, it's cuz he was not there. His.

body was there. His soul was at the. Mecca. His soul was watching the Knicks. do their thing to the 76ers. >> So, you can go to that and not be a. goofball, >> I guess. So, I don't like that. >> No. If you do that, when you get in. there, they make fun of you a ton and. then they basically force you to go. home. >> No, I don't think that's the case. >> Yeah. If you dress normal, they. basically make you a dunce for the whole. night. Whatever the case, we know Ben. Stiller will be back and we'd like to. let them know with Joel Embiid out and. him back in the building and they lose. They're going to say it's him. >> Oh no.

>> They're going to say it's him. And I. don't like that cuz we like Ben Stiller. We are big fans of Benance. >> His super serious stuff. We even like we. think he's very very special talent for. society. We want the bat for him. Obviously we would certainly do that. because he's a sports fan. On that note, you missed first game. They kill him. >> They kill him. >> Yeah, maybe you should stay away. >> Oh, which he has mentioned. He has said. maybe I don't go to the next one. It's. like, oh, fascinating. >> This guy doesn't want to go to games. anymore. That's what I'm That's the read.

I'm getting. >> Yeah, >> he wants the Knicks to win. >> Sure. No doubt about it. He doesn't want. to do the whole song and dance and he. doesn't want to go anymore. >> All right. Well, that feels like big. news. Uh joining us now, ladies and. gentlemen, to kind of tell us anything. else that we need to know for tonight's. games. Little bit later than I. potentially thought, but certainly can. hit a driveby if we need it. Ladies and. gentlemen, Sham Shiranya, [music] just need a hot five. What's. going on in hoops? We don't need a deep. dive. Sh.

What's going on in hoops? We don't need. a deep dive. >> Ladies and gentlemen, Sean Shiran here. >> Sean's okay. Joel Embiid out. This feels. like a very big deal uh for the entirety. of the NBA, especially with how Embiid. had been playing against the Celtics. He. was back all the way to being who we. thought and hoped he could be. What. happened and how long is this going to. last? >> Yeah, it's going to be at least this. game. But I mean, so this is what you. know, I was on a call right before right. as you guys are facetiming me because I.

wanted to figure out what exactly is. going on with Joel Embiid and he's. dealing with a hip injury. He's dealing. with an ankle injury and he was hoping. in the leadup to tonight's game that he. would be able to get both of those. things to loosen up to get both of those. in in in in the right place to be able. to play. And I I was told he spent all. morning on the training table. They had. shoot around this morning. They had. other team meetings. He literally was. stuck on the training table trying to. get treatment, trying to get his ankle. and his hip ready to the point where he.

could try to play and it just did not. give and the team ruled him out. uh just. literally about 10 minutes ago for. tonight's game. They they the the the. Sixers made the decision to rule him out. here tonight. Uh we know Joel Embiid's. history. He's played through ligament. issues in his knee, uh damage in his. thumb. He's dealt with facial fractures, Bell's palsy in his face, and now this. this postseason, he came back after. appendicitis after just over two weeks. And we saw him get hit in that area. I.

think it was Muel Bridges who knocked. him right in the stomach area. Whether. you want to call it a stomach, a hip, he's dealing with pain in that hip area. now as well as an ankle. >> Okay. The spread goes from 7 and 1/2 to. 10 and a half immediately for the Knicks. to be favored. They've obviously at one. point in the last three games have been. up 30 over their opponents. First time. that has ever happened in playoffs. Feels like blowouts are happening even. though it won't take place for the. second game that's happening tonight. Uh. Ant-Man, can you tell us a little bit. about him? Obviously last game it was a.

miracle seemingly him coming back after. nine days of the hyperextension. Where's. he at now after playing a full game? Are. we just expecting the same thing from. him coming off the bench? What what. should we This guy's unbelievable. >> It's it's it's [snorts] insane. How. often in football does it happen where a. team is like, "No, no, you're not. playing. No, no, you got to play it. safe." And a player is just like, "No, I'm playing and I'm good and I'm going. to show you I'm good." And that's. literally the process that happens all. the time. All the time every damn week.

>> All the time. Sean, brother, thanks for. asking. Except for Zion. >> Thank you. >> Well, I I think in the NBA, we're. accustomed to seeing oneon-one, two on. two, three on three. Anthony Edwards, Anthony Edwards didn't go through any of. that. He didn't go through any practice. He did a couple individual workouts and. he told the team, "I'm ready to play and. I'm going to prove to you I'm ready to. play." He passed all the medical testing. that they had. They weren't expecting to. evaluate him at all to play until after.

game two. They thought game three, game. four at the earliest. But Anthony. Edwards, he went through multiple. different treatment options. I I heard. he spent multiple sessions in the. hyperaric chamber. Reminds me of the. hyperbolic time chamber. Shout out to. Dragon Ball Z fans. But he went through. everything to try to see if he could. play and he was able to get get on the. court. And I I I do think his knee's. feeling better. And I think the hope is. in game two tonight, bump his minutes up. just a little bit more and and see what. he can do. And another in other injury. news, IO Dumo, uh who missed game one,

he scored, I think it was 43 points in. that game against Denver, uh last week. in game five, uh he is set to uh to to. play tonight. >> All right, IO. >> Way to go, IO. So Goku is the from the. thing you were talking about. >> Yeah. Yeah, he went super scan on that. >> There you go. There you go, BC. >> Which one is that? The one that IS A. LITTLE BALL. YEAH. >> Come here. >> And what do you do? You guys do cards. Is that what it was? >> Don't Don't you guys me? Don't you guys.

me? >> What was the one you said? You said. >> Dragon Ball Z. >> Dragon Ball Z. Is that the one where. they run like this? >> Was the card? >> That's the one that runs like this. >> That's Naruto. >> Is that from this one? >> No, different one. >> What's this one from? >> That was Naruto. No, I'm not an eager. eagle. That's the Gary Vee monster. Which one did he just mention there? >> Dragon Ball Z. >> Dragon Ball Z. >> But Naruto is that one. >> The run. >> Mhm. >> They did. >> He knows all about Dragon Ball Z. He's. holding out on us right now.

>> I don't know [laughter]. >> It was pretty It was pretty I mean, Dragon Ball Z took over there for a. while. AD didn't let me get into it. >> There is actually a video game coming. out that I am rather excited about. I'd. play it for sure. >> Dragon Balls. >> Yeah, Dragon Balls. God, that's going to be a good game. >> Hopefully, it should be. A lot of hype. A lot of hype. >> All right, Shams, we appreciate you, man. Thank you for bringing that nerd. Hey, May the 4th been with you, too, the. other day. We know that was probably a. big day for you. We appreciate the hell. out of you joining us here. >> Happy Cinco de Mayo, late belated Cinco.

de Mayo as well. >> Okay, you like to celebrate the battle. of Puebla in 1862 down there when the. French uh got uh knocked on by the. Mexican forces. Uh that that is. something we like to celebrate as well. Shams, >> you didn't know that. You thought it was. Mexican Independence Day and that's how. I know Yep. >> that you need to stop spreading that. lie. >> Wake up. >> That's not what it is. You're the best. Ladies and gentlemen, Sean Shan. >> AJ, I I said that yesterday because. people that we know, not us. >> No,

>> not us. AJ, no. Nobody here. >> No, none of us thought Cinco de Mayo was. Mexican independence day. None of us. thought that. >> No, that's much different. >> Much different. Yeah. We didn't go like, "Okay, July 4th, but for Mexico, let's. go ahead and have a good time." We. didn't do that. People we knew did that. >> because on May 5th, 2025, you actually. explained the battle of Playbo last. year, too. >> Exactly. That that's kind of our mission. at this point. It's like, "Hey, something Independence Day also very. cool. It's a huge deal.". >> Yeah. >> You should have seen this 300 story that.

happened with the battle of Pueba. >> And that's what Cinco de Mayo is. AJ, you knew that. >> I did know that. I tell you what, my. second grader knew that. He came home. and explained it all to me as well. >> Watch the program. No, not from the. program. They actually I guess at school. they were trying to teach them like the. hey, this is what it is. >> in Ohio. >> Yeah, that's crazy. I didn't know you. guys taught stuff over there in Ohio. >> They do. >> Well, actually, this isn't actually very. impressive. It was against the French, so that was kind of what they taught. >> Yeah, you might be right. I don't know. exactly how they presented it, but. >> that's the Ohio narrative. Okay, we. won't [laughter] talk about the. opponent. >> We'll just talk about what they had.

>> It's about us. >> It was a really weak strength to. schedule. It's about us. Just like the. bunker. >> No, it wasn't French. Obviously, I don't. want to get into it. A lot of good. things. We talked about it the other. day. Talked about it the other day. There's a lot of good. >> French onion dip. We forgot. >> Oh, so good. French toast. So good. >> You don't like French onion dip? No. >> All right, let's move along, please. Oh, I forgot about that. >> Ces says Christine Aguilera, noted. French Pittsburgger. >> Yes.

>> Okay. So, noted French. >> She's from the. >> Yeah, she is. She wasn't part of the no. all hits only bangers freaking let's. have a good time hell of a time. tailgate. >> I was bummed out about that as well. And. Christine Aguilera could have definitely. been out there crushing something. Yes, >> she'll be able to sing forever. She's. the Enzer obviously. No problems at all. there. Joining us now, ladies and. gentlemen, >> is a man that I actually uh saw in. Pittsburgh. in just an open lobby. Just just an open. lobby. This man might be the most uh.

humble would be um just like too basic. of a term to say. Relatable commissioner. I've ever seen. Okay. Just walking. around the arena. >> like a dawn. >> Just literally just walking around the. arena. I I it was mindblowing to me. I I. did not expect this. Sit down right next. to a nachos and in. >> Jack and Diet literally right there. Have a ch sitting there talking to. people walking out. Go sit a seat. Watch. the game. most casual, but also a man. who's in the middle of quite a bump in.

popularity and obviously action for the. league in which he is the commission uh. commissioner. Ladies and gentlemen, the. NHL commission, Gary Bman, [applause and cheering]. >> Gary, >> how are you, man? >> I'm doing great. How are you? >> Cool. >> I'm good. Last time we saw each other, my neck was a little bit uh. >> what? But everybody wanted to see you. They could have cared less about me. You're the most relatable star. >> Oh, well, thank you for that. It was in. Pittsburgh, so a lot of people know me. I'll tell you, I did not expect for us. to be meeting where we were meeting. I I.

I thought for sure that was a that was. an aggressive decision as I was getting. walked in there and I'm like the. commission as you're literally walking. through there. Hey, how you doing? Are. you enjoying you actually like boots on. the ground commissioner was so cool to. see strictly because you love your. sport. You love your league. It was very. obvious and right now we're in an up. into the right time. Can you tell me. about the league success that we're. having? Ratings obviously through the. roof. Obviously, the new media deal has. boded well, but why do you think the. league and the sport right now is as hot. as it is from your perspective?

>> That's a great question. So, let let me. start a little bit further back. I think. in the US, round one was the most. watched opening round of the Stanley Cup. playoffs ever. Uh, and we were up. something like 68%. uh over the last year. And round two is. off to an incredible start. Uh, Saturday's game one on ABC between the. Flyers and Carolina was the most.

watched. Round two, game one on record. And Sunday's game one on TNT was the. most viewed. Game one uh in the second. round on cable. We were up in the. regular season somewhere between 25 and. 30% on our ratings in the US. uh and and you know it it's a really. good time and it and it we don't even. have the biggest markets. This is really. about how good the hockey is. So to.

begin to answer your question, what's. going on on the ice in terms of our. competitiveness, how exciting and. entertaining the games are. Check that. box. Secondly, I think Four Nations a. year ago and the Olympics this year, >> oh yeah, >> had an impact in bringing people to the. game. check that box. I think that. heated rivalry for some people. introduced a whole new group of people. to the game as well. And so when you. mush it all together, uh cuz it's never.

one thing, I think that's how you can. account for it. But I've always said, and I say it to my people here when. we're marketing and promoting, authenticity, how good the game is, that's more important than anything. else. And I think that's what's driving. us right now. And we've got a lot of. great players doing amazing things. >> Yeah. I think the sport is obviously. spectacular. The US Olympics and United. States winning will obviously bring a. lot of uh patriotic meattheads to the.

table. Hey. Yeah. Our sport, women and. men, we're better than you, especially. with, you know, Canada always being able. to do that. Uh, I also believe the deal. that you guys made media-wise to have. everything so accessible as opposed to. how hard it potentially was before is. also brilliant. I think the rules that. you guys implemented after the lockout. or the hold out that you guys had way. back in the day has made the game more. exciting. I think you relaxing on the. the wanting to ban fighting there for a. bit, but then you kind of relax on it.

We don't want staged fighting if. fighting is still going to happen. Like. I think you have kind of I think you've. done a good job, Gary. I just want to. let you know that. I think you've done a. good job kind of finding the right. content, product, and placement of your. league. I think you've done you guys. have navigated it very well. And I think. you're only up and to the right from. here. Don't you think the more people. that see the game, the more people that. love the game? >> Well, first of all, thank you. Um, >> uh, yes, we we want the game to be. accessible. Our relationships with ESPN, the Walt Disney Company, wi with ABC as.

well, and with Turner on TNT and their. networks has been great for us. easy to. find the games. You're not searching. We're generally in one of two places. Uh. it's worked very well and both entities. have done a great job of producing the. games and promoting the games and. scheduling the games. So yeah, but it. all starts with the game fighting. We. haven't changed the rules a lot. What's. really happened and and you alluded to. the rule changes 20 years ago after we. lost the season. The fact is we have.

because of our system extraordinary. competitive balance. I think it's the. best in sports. And so as a result, every team can compete and can afford to. compete because we have a salary cap and. revenue sharing because the competitive. balance is so good. You need to have. skilled players. You can't have players. who just fight. Even if you're a tough. guy and you're defending your teammate. and in the heat of the moment you engage. in a fight which kind of acts as a.

thermostat on the game because you know. it's pretty emotional, pretty physical. and the guys are carrying sticks. But. the fact is you're all your players have. to be able to play or you really can't. compete. >> Yeah, you can get exposed if you have a. weak link out there. Obviously. everybody's bigger, stronger, faster. than they've ever been, more talented. than they've ever been, but I like the. business will get handled. Last night, a. ref caught a punch right to the face. On. that note, AJ has a question for you, Kamish. >> Yeah, Kamish, obviously NFL is going. through some situations right now with. their NFL or the the ref union and.

everything. We hope they get a deal. worked out. But when it comes to NHL. hockey, I feel like you guys, you do a. great job. We don't talk about the. referees or the linesmen. We don't we're. not really focused on them. They don't. seem to get into the, you know, the. talking points unless something like. this happens and it's awesome. He just. continues to do his job. But what do you. guys do, I guess, to train these. referees? Obviously, they have to be. super talented, be able to skate, be in. shape, but what is your program? I guess. finding new refs and keeping them. >> That That's a great question. Steven. Walk runs our officiating program. We do. combines over the summer. We recruit.

from all around the world. He looks for. for players who, you know, played in the. Canadian Hockey League or in college who. couldn't quite make it but have a feel. for the game and can skate. Uh, and we. do clinics and we recruit from all over. the place and then we work the. officials, the young officials through. the EA, the ECHL and then the AHL and. then the good ones work their way up. Uh, you've got to be knowledgeable about.

the game. You've got to have a feel for. the game. You've got to be passionate. about the game and you have to have the. commitment to go through the rigors of. being an official at the NHL. I don't. think there's a harder job to officiate. and our guys don't get the credit they. deserve. I mean, they are moving with. the flow of the game. They've got to. skate like the players. It's physical. They got to stay out of the way. There's. a lot going on really fast. And it is. remarkable how good a job they do and.

how much they get right. And video. replay for us has really vindicated. their performance even more. >> Yeah. Yeah. And I like that they've. adapted with the video replay as opposed. to fight against it. It feels like for. And it makes sense that it's ex players, a lot of them that are kind of getting. in there cuz that's the chirps. The refs. chirp. They're like, uh, they do makeup. calls, too. Like, hey, had to get you. for one. >> Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no. They call. they, you know, they used to Yeah. Sorry. Yeah, they definitely don't do.

that. >> But if there is a mistake, it does feel. like the refs and the players are all on. the same page on like, hey, this is how. this has to kind of go. We love the. synergy it feels like that the refs have. with the players because obviously. they're all sharing it. And I'll say. this, uh, the refs are in incredible. shape. I mean, we're talking massive. quads. They're skating. >> They have to be. >> You know, it's interesting. When I took. over the league, you know, in the Stone. Age, the fact is that we had two. linesmen and one referee. I mean, and to.

think that one guy could have called it. all was nuts. And one of the first. things we did was say, we we need to do. to go to a twoman system. one to have. more eyeballs, twice as many, but also. it kept our guys in the game longer. because they didn't have to skate quite. as much and didn't have quite the same. responsibility. Uh, but again, our. officials are are trained and recruited. and critiqued on an ongoing basis. They're held accountable the amount of. video that they get after each game and.

it's circulated among all of them. if. there's a particularly interesting or. difficult call. Um, I'm really proud of. our officiating department. >> Yeah, you should be. Sounds like. everybody's trying to aim for it. I. think the NFL have a vote on Thursday to. ratify a new deal with the refs. association. Hopefully, it models a lot. of what you guys have going on. Now, let's talk about the future of your game. last night. Hey, you were Sinatra out. there hosting this entire thing. Go. ahead, Con man. >> Yeah, Gary, fantastic work last night.

with the uh lottery. It was very fun to. watch. It's very entertaining. Hopefully, this is something that the. even the NBA considers doing as a whole. But the Toronto Maple Leafs end up. getting the first overall pick. Of. course, people on the internet aren't. happy, but specifically Bruins fans and. Flyers fans weren't too happy about it. Uh, was there a thought going into it. about the fallout with the next couple. drafts um between the with the. unprotected pick and this being. technically the Bruins pick, but but it.

was protected, so now it's, you know, moved forward. How is that whole thing. going to work out? >> Those are the terms of the trades and. and because we have a lottery system and. teams can move up. Uh frequently the. terms of the trade have a protection in. there under certain circumstances. because I'm I'm not sure anybody wants. to feel like they've traded away the. number one pick if that wasn't their. intention. What was interesting about. last night and ultimately we don't care. who wins. We want the system to be pure. uh and have integrity which it does. U.

but the when you see the result last. night there's no incentive in our game. to lose to get a better pick. Um the. fifth team moved up to the first slot. The ninth team ranked in terms of. inverse order of the standings from the. regular season moved up to the second. slot. And so if you lose more, it. doesn't necessarily assure you of. anything. Yeah, it may increase your. odds a little, but not enough that.

anybody's perceived to have an incentive. to lose. And I think that's the most. important thing both for the draft and. leading up to it at the end of the. regular season. >> Yeah, I think uh with your sport, it. feels like your culture is not of one to. ever give up or try to lose in anything. So to have a system to benefit that is I. think a good thing. The Toronto uh Maple. Leafs obviously are in the middle of a. big change right now. Uh he's hired a. new GM. People are really pumped about. it. Sounds like that press conference.

went great. But the Toronto Maple Leafs. for American people that aren't like. hockey fans. I think they're viewed as. like the Dallas Cowboys in Canada. Lot. of hype, lot of fans. Lot of fans. everywhere. Not as many cups though, you. know, as the entire thing. So everything. Toronto does highly scrutinized. Is that. accurate, Gary? everything they do. And. now Gavin McKenna going in to the the. mixer up there with Austin Matthews. Maybe takes them maybe Toronto, maybe a. Canadian club wins a Stanley Cup. That's. all possible now because of the NFL.

draft lottery last night. Uh, you know, I think that that even in the United. States, the original six clubs, of which. Toronto and Montreal are a third of the. original six, they carry a cache not. just throughout our league and and. particularly in Canada, but they also. carry cache in the United States. And I. think that that hockey fans in the US, while they pay attention to all of our. teams, I think they particularly pay.

attention to Toronto and Montreal. because of the histories that they have. >> Yeah. I like watching uh Biz just kind. of crash out. You know, it feels like. there's uh there's a lot of them. There's a lot of Canadians that ride, public Canadians that ride with the. Toronto Maple Leafs. And uh. >> listen, the passion for the game, particularly in Canada, is great. I. mean, in Canada, we're like the NFL is. here, but on steroids. >> Yeah. Second best in the world, too. Women and men's hockey. It's pretty. good. >> Mhm. Not bad. >> Canada's top three. [laughter]. >> That was a subtle jab, but that's.

>> subtle. Yeah. Poor Canada. Now, Canada. certainly taking a couple with me as. well. But on that note, we love the. sport. We love hockey. We are very. appreciative of it. Let's talk about. what's happening right now. Not only. numbers up, obviously the style of play, you name it, everything's great. How we. got to this point, certainly a. conversation piece. Go ahead, Tone. >> Yeah, Commissioner, obviously you. changed the play playoff format about a. decade ago. Uh going away from the one. through eight and focusing more on the. divisions and division matchups. I know. it's a hot button topic every playoff uh.

every playoff season. Are you guys happy. with the current playoff format or is. there any thought of ever going back to. the one through eight? >> Well, some people have that thought. I. personally don't. What we have has. worked really well in terms of the. series that develop, in terms of how the. playoffs play out, in terms of the races. to get into the playoffs with the wild. card. Our regular season goes down to. the wire for virtually all of our clubs. Maybe we had a handful of less teams. that weren't in it for the last couple.

of weeks. Uh, and we get longer series. as a general rule. We had six of our. eight first round series win at least. six games. Uh that's extraordinary. You. get more games. You get more compelling. seasons. I mean, yes, there are people. who are always going to have preferences. for other things. One of the great thing. about sports and particularly sports. fans is their passion and they're. wanting to con constantly debate things. Uh, but from our standpoint, mine at. least, I think it's working well and I.

don't see the need for a change. But we. always talk about everything because if. there are things we can do to tweak what. we have and make it better, we're not. adverse to at least considering it if we. don't do it. >> Do you think the Avalanche should have. to play with somebody in the penalty box. the entire [laughter] game? >> They're they're playing awfully well, as. is Carolina, by the way. >> Oh, yeah. So, you know, but but the. playoffs are off to a great start, which. is why the ratings is where we started. this conversation are as strong as we.

they are. It all starts with what takes. place on the ice and how terrific our. game and our players are. >> Yeah, we're big fans of the Kaniacs down. there. They've been riding down there. for a long time. Now, they get a chance. to potentially ride. That Colorado team. though looks. >> I mean, they're rude. They're rude, too. >> Physical. [laughter] Love physicality. >> So, >> I mean, they are rude. They they 52. they're up at the end still pounding. like hey listen we're still playing here. this is a. >> I mean the f the first game. >> you know 15 goals I mean it it was crazy.

in a good way it was fun to watch. >> 14 goal scorers. >> 14 goal scorers Gary that that is yeah. I'd say that's an okay night for just a. casual hockey fan to turn it on. Holy. does everybody on the ice score is. this how this thing goes? And then the. inverse of that, I was in Tampa on. Sunday night and that series, every game. was decided by one goal. It was. incredible to see. >> Yeah, it's been a great playoff. Now, on. that note, go ahead Debut. >> Yeah, Kamish Pat mentioned seeing you in.

Pittsburgh last round. Uh, what's the. travel schedule like now and how do you. decide which games to go? You kind that. Lulu hoodie might be hopping on the. plane here soon. [laughter] And how do. you decide? >> I like that, huh? >> Very, very clean. super chill. >> I I try to get to places I haven't been. When when I saw uh Pat in Pittsburgh. that week, I was in five games in five. nights and I was back in the office. every day because we're in the middle of. doing budgets. So, I have to do my day. job as well. Uh so, so I bounce around.

and I try to get to places when I don't. have other commitments that I have to. take care of in the office. >> How's the budgets going? We're doing. pretty good, huh? Yeah, things are going. well. Yeah, we're working on it. Work in. progress. Everybody always, all the. department heads always want to hire. more people and spend more money, [laughter] which is good. >> Yeah, bureaucracy is great. Remember, meritocracy is the champ, though. And uh. you guys certainly have all the talent. in the world. Tell Pyano, we appreciate. the connection here and thank you for.

taking the time, Mr. Kamish. >> Pat, it's always great to be with you. and your guys. So, thank you for having. me and enjoy the playoffs. >> You're the man. He does look cool in. that. >> It's a great hoodie. Let me go back to. this uh let me get back to this P&L. sheet here for [laughter]. got going on here. The man, ladies and. gentlemen, Gary Bman. [applause]. >> Yary. >> He's in it. >> Oh yeah. >> Every day he's in it. Anytime we talk to. him, he's doing something for hockey. Like anytime. There's never a time where. I've accidentally interacted with Gary.

and he's not doing something. He is. always in there. And that's like um you. know, super growing leak. Not saying the. NFL doesn't have the hungry dog kind of. motive, but you listen to Jesse Cole. with Savannah Bananas. They sold 102,000. tickets uh down there in Texas A&M. It's. like he's he's thinking about still so. much growth like trying to become it's. like Gary Bman in the NHL are still. thinking like how can we get this game. to more people all the time. Like all. the time. Not that the NFL isn't. thinking that, but I'm just saying the. NHL knows that it can still grow.

immensely and their sport is certainly. only getting better and they already. have the business in place. They're. already making money. It's like the NHL. is in a great spot and I think the more. people that watch hockey, the more. people love hockey. >> Yeah. And it's hard to argue that they. there's other sports that can do what. they can do. You know, it's probably the. last sport where the lowest seated team. can go on and win the entire thing. Like. even in the NFL, if you're talking about. seven seed in the wild card making a. run, sure that can happen. Hasn't. happened for a very, very long time, at. least since they've gone to 14 teams,

seven in each conference. Baseball. typically not the thing because of the. spending. NBA, we've seen it really. Seven and eight seeds, can't get the job. done in the end. NHL, literally any team. can have a hot goalie or someone who. just, you know, catches fire. McKinnon. who's hitting everybody, scoring three. points a night, that can happen in. hockey. And it is one of those things. Hey, the more eyes we we get on this. thing, the more people are going to love. it. >> Really bright. It's on like. day mode. I don't know what your phone.

is. It day mode or night mode. >> Need lights on to watch it. >> Hockey is very bright. >> Yeah, >> that 10:00 game, you might as well just. have a flashlight on in the bedroom. >> Lot of white. >> You know what I mean? That thing is just. >> that p if you follow the pup. >> No. Yeah, certainly. I'm just saying. it's a really bright game. That that's. what I'm realizing with these super late. hockey games. >> and it gets loud sometimes. >> Exactly. The Barnes get really rockus. which we love. And sometimes I'll have. them fall asleep maybe and I miss the. whole second period and then middle of. third period something goes crazy. I.

open my eyes. It's like I'm walking out. of a casino in Vegas at 6:00 a.m. >> The sun is just blinding me. That is. what the ice is doing from the TV. So if. we could somehow figure that out, I'd. appreciate that. >> That help. If we could just I could have. a setting on my television that'll. basically say like, "Hey, if you think. I've fallen asleep, you know me pretty. good at this point. Maybe we dial that. down a little bit because that. thing is on phone flashlight all the way. up.". >> Yep. >> That's not a dial. That thing is really. white. Just. >> thousand%. >> Maybe get some Boise State type rinks.

You know, the Colorado Avalanche. Let's. get some blue ice. >> Now we're talking. >> We need to do the Savannah bananas of. hockey. >> Yeah. >> Yes. >> Dark ice. Yeah. Put Lay a black tarp. under the ice. >> Leave my sport. >> Cosmic hockey. >> Fans will love that. The traditional. fans will love this. >> Hockey but louder. >> Bring the globe. >> That worked out. >> Hockey but louder. >> I'll tell you, Liv was an ass execution. of an idea that had a $5 billion budget.

>> You say it was. What do you mean was? They're getting They're getting infusion. of cash, aren't they? >> I saw Louis Vuitton, Travis Scott. Okay. I have faith in him. That was a good. city. I thought he looked cool. The guy. who's the new CEO of Liv. >> I hope he does a great job. They've. already used $5 billion. I don't know if. they have access to another 5 billion, but maybe they won't need it because. it's a completely different direction. and maybe he has great ideas. Feels like. Liv is dead. Yeah, it does feel like. that's the case. People's contracts are. for another few years. Rom's gone in.

there and say, "Hey, they're really good. contracts." Yeah. >> So, I don't know how I'm getting out of. this thing unless the entire thing. folds, which I guess could happen in the. future. But the PGA community obviously. now has to live with how who do we let. Cam Young had interesting answers. I. won't play against the best man. That's. what I do. I just Let's go ahead and. >> he did but he also No, he didn't say. just let also said it did feel like you. were going all in or not. >> There's a handful of them over there. that he wants. >> to play against every week. >> Yeah. But. >> and that's the only ones we really care. about too as spectators.

>> Yeah. And I think we are kind of. pitching this entire conversation just. for a few people. >> Oh yeah. Two to three. Now, those people. though were the ones that were poached. to go take on. >> Yeah. Oh, yeah. >> So, that's why. >> they were the biggest defactors. >> Did you see us groundskeepers maybe for. the tournaments? A couple of those AJ. Did you see that? >> Yeah. The old construction worker angle. like Yeah. Make them work their way back. into a tournament. Yeah. I I guess it's. not the worst idea. >> What if they were tea box? We've seen. John Daly do it before. >> What do you mean? >> Put a te. >> Put a tea between your butt cheeks.

>> Okay. Yeah. I don't know. Maybe roll. will do that. What? Another idea was. they come back to the PGA. They have to. play all the events. >> Every single one of them. >> They have to play all the event. >> Yeah. For like for two or three years, you play every single possible event. >> All the events until you win one. And. then if you win one, you kind of test. your way out of there. Okay. Yeah. I. like that. >> Yeah. But you got to play at all of. them. And for me as fan, I'll turn on. some golf tournament on a Sunday. and I'll see two names that I know and. it'll be good for the PGA. Be good for.

me as a golf fan. Good idea. You're back. in the PGA. Okay. Congratulations. You're playing in. Wyoming at the who gives a damn thing. Whatever. Whatever it is, but it's on my. TV cuz it's PGA tournament and now you. have to play this because you're back in. the PJ. Could also start with strokes. Like, oh, you got $150 million from, you. know, live. Boom. You're plus 15 to. start this weekend. >> Oh, because they do that with the FedEx. Cup. So, they already have precedent on. giving strokes. >> Bingo. >> So, this would be no different. >> Nope. Same exact thing. It's just kind.

of a PIF tax. >> That's what we're saying though. We we. can think of so many ideas. I I felt. like we were kind of just shoot away on. the. >> roll out the red carpet, let him back in. and tell them thank you on the way back. Those fat checks, those elevated events. >> Yeah, those other players better thank. >> this weekend the no cut signature event. Ton of money. >> You're welcome. Thank you, Liv. >> The 150 flat rates. You're not just. wasting 40 grand just in case you don't. make the cut on Friday and then you have. to get back to it on Monday or Tuesday. and do all that BS with the sponsors.

that they used to have. >> Participation talk going on. right now. >> You're welcome. >> Well, I like what you guys are are. >> I agree that it certainly made the PGA. um better to its players, treated the. players better. I think that is very. true and real and I think they would. admit that as well. But when it. happened, it was very clearly like, >> oh yeah, it was a war. >> I'm going to kill you. >> It was a war. Now. >> it's messed up. >> That dissipated. >> They lost. >> It's messed up. >> And it kind of did it fizzle out. But. there's gonna have to be something, you. know, especially whenever they say,

"Hey, if you come by February 2nd, >> yeah, you're back.". >> Is there a path now though? Is there a. path for anyone to come back? Now. >> they Somebody's gone through a year. suspension or something. And then. Brooksie was an alternative, I think, for a couple or something like that. >> Yeah, he's uh at the elevated events the. last two of them. He had to he went. there as an alternate. Did not No one No. one dropped out of the field. So, he had. to he left on Thursday. So, uh he has. not played an elevated event yet. But. yeah, Brooks $5 million to charity or. whatever. Uh but he was like they had an. option. Cam said it like all these guys.

had an option. Brooks was the only one. that took that option. And now now that. Liv is folding, they're like, "Oh shoot, I want to jump on that trade.". >> Brooks was never all in. >> Let's talk about he had Nike. He stuck. with Nike the whole time. >> Feels like he kind of We watched the. Super Swing series, >> the full swing. Yep. >> There it is. And Brooks in a bad spot. Felt like watching Brooks when he made. that decision to go to live, he thought. he was never going to be able to hit a. golf ball to where he was aiming it. again. >> That's what I learned from Super Swing. Yeah. >> So, when he gets offered $200 million. for golf, I think he thought, "This is.

it. This is all I got.". >> Then he found his game again. He was. like, "200. million, but who am I playing against? Let's see." Hey, everybody else had to. give up their Nike deal. I'm not doing. that. >> I'm keeping my Nike deal. Okay. You're. gonna wear your range goats hat. No, I'm. wearing a Nike. >> Smashmouth GC. >> No, I'm wearing a Nike. >> That's a sick name. >> Smashmouth. >> Smash GC. >> Do they still own these teams? Remember, they're talking about how you get equity. in the teams and all that. Are they. worth anything? >> Yeah, they're making a ton.

>> Investors, >> possibly. >> The team owners, Phil and Bryson and. Bob, they're making a ton. >> I was pumped to see the amount of money. go to the athletes. I don't want to. continue to just say that. That's why I. stuck up for live because so much money. was going to athletes and everybody was. grandstanding about where the money was. coming from. It's like, well, there's a. lot of that money everywhere, >> okay? >> So, let's not get mad about and now we. all know that. Now, everybody on Earth. knows that a little bit more than they. did maybe in 2022. So, I didn't like. that the athletes were the only ones. that were getting grandstanded. I'm. like, you can't take that money cuz you.

it's a bad it's bad money. It's like. well that. >> I just got Starbucks and I just watch a. >> I download they're in everything. their. money, their money, whatever. We tracing. money for everything. So, I was always. seemingly people would tell me that I. was a pro live guy. I'm pro these guys. getting a ton of money to be. athletes. Now, I had eyes and I tried to. find a live thing. Couldn't find it and. it was ass when I found it. And I think. I was pretty open about that for for for. a while about that. So, I'm happy the. PGA and its professionalism and what it. is continues to rain. But I would like.

to see everybody, but I don't think the. people that made the decision to take. $200 million being walked right back in. is fair at all to the guys that turned. down 150 $200 million at the time and. basically were forced into a. >> you're bad peopleide. >> trying to take on things. So I think. there has to be something. That's all. I'm saying. >> There got to be a path. Got to be a path. where you can play your way back onto. tour. And you got to have some kind you. shouldn't have to start from the the. absolute bottom. There's got to be some. kind of way. If you have status somehow. and you are a guy that's won, >> you got to find a way back.

>> What was that show that they big break? >> Is that what they used to show? >> They used to break the glass. >> Love that. >> Tic tac toe with the glass. The whole. thing late night. That was right after. the golf fix when you put the tube in. the thing. >> Undouable. Great show. >> Yeah. That's why I bought the. >> That's why I bought this. >> Yep. >> That's why I bought this right here. The. undouffable big break. >> They weren't using this. I thought. >> Is that like a fairway? Is it like a. fairway wood or is that like chipper. around. >> anywhere? I think it's a wedge. >> It's undeuffable. >> It's a wedge though. >> Oh, >> I don't doubt.

>> Can you turn it turn it sideways? Can we. see it? >> I want to see the full. >> Okay, I got it now. I'm okay. I thought. it was like almost like a a wood. >> And by the way, put that head on a brick. wall. >> Yep. Co. >> Perfect. >> Yeah, that's all you got to do. Ladies. and gentlemen, a man who might be able. to teach us about batting balls around a. little bit. >> He's a guy who is currently has an 839.

OPS over the last nine games. >> That's good. >> A man who's on a team that is currently. in the middle of a sevengame win streak. It's starting to feel like good old days. with a lovable reunion as Grandpa Ross. He's continuing to talk about what this. Cubs team used to be. Young Chicago Cubs. star who just signed a massive deal at. the beginning of the season. Living up. to the hype, enjoying a winning streak. Ladies and gentlemen, Pete Crow. Armstrong. Yeah, PCA. >> I like that where without a clap for. yourself. >> My voice. >> Yeah, cuz if you didn't clap, you would. have looked weird. So, I appreciate you. doing that. We kind of put you in a. little bit of a predicament. I think you.

handled it well, just like you're. handling the season well. How's life, brother? Sevename win streak feels good, I assume. >> Oh, every time. Yeah. Um, it's fun. playing uh fun playing good baseball at. Wrigley. It's fun. Uh, you know, we were. just delayed for like an hour and hour. and a half the other day, but we still. had 32,000. And it's always fun when uh, you know, when when the boys are coming. up in big spots, you got everybody, you. know, one through 13 and this offense. kind of just making it count when.

they're when they're called upon. >> Okay. So, sevengame win streak. I don't. follow many baseball seasons in my. existence. This year I am, though. This. year I'm in. Okay. And I'm thankful for. you and many of the lads at the World. Baseball Classic for that, for me being. in there. Sevename win streak. Is this. normal throughout a good season? Like. what is kind of because you guys play so. many games, I assume you drop games and. you just like don't kind of care. You. got to kind of move on. Is this a good. length for a win streak? And what is the. most you guys have experienced?

>> Uh I mean we had I think we had a 10. game uh earlier this year. Um, you know, I mean, you're taking you're. really taking any you can you can get. throughout the course of the year, grand. scheme of things. I mean, um, you know, seven seven's a lot. So, you. know, you walk away from each one of. those games kind of, you know, feeling. really good and celebrating those wins. cuz they're hard to come by. um as you. are probably starting to find out. watching watching this sport a little.

bit more is like you know we're playing. a a division rival and and they were hot. before they came here. So um you know. they could turn it on at any point as. well and and it's just our job to kind. of to kind of match that at any point. >> Yeah, you're certainly doing that. And. what if this just becomes what if you. just win every game going forward? >> That'd be crazy. >> What what if just through the entirety. of the rest of the season you guys never. lose again? I guess that is possible. Now, I think there's one side of the of. the entire uh Major League Baseball.

that's doing great and then the other. side of baseball is kind of ass right. now. Yeah. AL ass league is what they're. saying right now. >> That's what they're saying. That's what. they're saying. But the NL is completely. different story. Go ahead, Tone. >> Yeah, Pete, I do have a question. Only. three teams over 500 in the AL. Oh, but. look at that. One, two, three. All five. teams are over 500 in the NL Central. Obviously, you guys are up at the top. there. Um, is that is that talked about. at all with you guys and just being in. the NL Central and how good the NL. Central is right now or is that. something that you'll worry about.

farther down the line? >> I mean, will we ever worry about it? Probably not. Um, you know, if anything, it's it's it's. fun to be a part of a division that that. is uh, you know, kind of taking the game. by storm this year with. with a lot of fun callups to to be aware. of and and Connor Griffin and JJ. Weatherhol and. >> S Stewart, >> S's Balling. Um, you know, I think it's. just I think it's really good for the.

game. I don't think the Central's really. uh to to me it's never felt like the. division um until this year, but. everybody's everybody's really fun to. watch and it's fun to be a part of. So, at the end of the day, no, we're we're. never going to worry about um the. standings until they tell us where we're. going to be seated in the playoffs. I. mean, the goal is to just make sure that. you come out on top. >> Know that the AL's ass right now go. [laughter] they're bad. They're bad bad. over there. You know, the NL Central. Yeah. Ski is cooking. Yeah, skins is.

starting to cook there. Yeah, he's on. the bump. So, let's make sure we got uh. look alive out there. Okay. And you. know, we. >> Yeah, thank you PCA. You get it. You. understand the deal. You understand. what's going on? They're. hoisting cones over there, too. I don't. know if you got a chance to be on the. other side of that. They're dunking on. people with cones right now. >> I haven't really seen it, but I' i've. heard the cone, Lori. Yeah, I have. >> Oh, YOU DON'T WANT TO FEEL IT, BROTHER. I'M TELLING YOU, THAT IS NOT SOMETHING. YOU WANT TO FEEL, BCA. NOW, UH, I will. say the Pirates aren't trying to feel. any type of PCA way either. We got a.

Hembo stat because you were coming on. the show. We asked, uh, defensive run. save DRS doctors is a stat that dates to. 2003. That's 23 years ago. Season record. 42 of them. Okay. Shout out to on. drought and Simmons. That guy was a. Spider-Man out there. Season. outfield record 37. Kevin Clareire, uh, Pete Crow Armstrong, he's currently on. pace for 45. You tell me, did you know. about this stat? And uh do you feel like. you're having your best defensive year. or best year uh of your life thus far? >> Um.

I I I'm aware of of doctors. Uh but I. mean my job is just to go make sure the. ball doesn't hit the hit the floor. So. like what whatever whatever stats can. measure. um your defensive run saved, it's cool. Um, but we we've been taking a lot of pride. in in other little like basebally things. that that people may not appreciate as. much. >> Yep. Tell me these things so I can act. like I know what they are whenever I'm.

having conversations. >> Yep. >> So, so when we're in LA, right, Andy. Paes or Andy Pes, the center fielder for. the Dodgers, um, he threw two guys out at home plate. Um, there was just this relay where he kind. of like fielded the ball and threw it on. the run. And normally you don't really. see that from an outfielder, but um when. you got an arm like that, that guy, he. uh it was just in a super impressive. play. So we're all we're all super. focused on just like getting the ball in. clean to the right spot really quick and.

efficiently. Um so, you know, like. Wrigley is a tough place to play. So. when you can take away runs, um that's. huge because it's not always the easiest. place to hit. But um you know, yeah, this yeah, this was one of the more. impressive things I've I've ever seen. Like I I feel for our third base coach. here cuz he sees that ball get get all. the way to the wall just about and next. thing you know it's it's in the. shortstop's hand. So. >> it's just rare that you see an. outfielder make a throw like that and.

and I think that is such an important. part of the game that that goes. unnoticed sometimes or. >> So is this a doctor's right here? This. is a doctor. This is a doctor right. here. >> It's got to be. It's got to be. I don't. know. I don't know enough about doctors. that. [laughter]. But to me, to me, that's just a that's. just a damn good play. >> I like that you're learning, constantly. learning, and also complimenting. somebody else immediately upon us. saying, "You might be the greatest in uh. the history." Debb has a question for. you, PCA. >> Yeah. When your bat is as hot as yours. is right now. How do you kind of manage,

I guess, the aggression versus having. maintaining that plate discipline? Because when I'm out here playing. whiffle ball in the third, [laughter]. I want to swing at everything anytime I. touch that ball. So, how do you manage. that? How do you balance that? >> Hey, I'm a lot I'm a lot like you. I uh. I uh that's that's always been the. hardest thing for me really. I mean, uh. I love to swing the bat. I love to try. and make stuff happen with the bat. So, um, you know, I think the the plate. discipline was actually a little bit. better, um, like I would say a little over a week.

ago, but and and before that, but you. know, when I when I start feeling sexier. and and I do start putting more balls in. play, more balls in the air to the pull. side, like. >> I do end up swinging more. So, I'm. inevitably going to chase more. And. that's just I think that just I that's. something I got to accept about myself. But, um, I'm just I'm not going to walk. that much, man. But when the bat's. feeling good, then then I got to let it. rip sometimes. >> Okay. You said when you're feeling. sexier, some days you just go ahead and. walk through that clubhouse, you take a. little look at the mirror. Hell yeah,

dude. >> Be a good day. >> Hell yeah. Today's a good day. Go out. there and start swinging at everything. I uh I enjoy that. Did ABS affect you. guys at the beginning, you hitters, because uh I we thought Aaron Judge was. maybe overthinking the ABS at the. beginning, maybe coming out if it's not. a strike, it'll be able to get fixed if. it's a strike. Was that messing with. anything with you at all or was that. just kind of us making up for. you guys that kind of stunk at the. beginning and now are doing great? >> I mean I I think if you look at like the.

numbers of or the success rate like I. think catchers maybe pitchers just cuz. they've probably challenged less have. the best uh success rate but. >> I think it's catchers I think catchers. are like 69% or something like that. I. forget the number. >> There you go. Um makes sense. I mean, I. think as a hitter for me, it's tough. Again, like the the zone awareness is is. something that's kind of a work in. progress for me. So, like, um, it. definitely messed with me a little bit. I was 0 for two to start the year on the. challenges and and I was just kind of. like, I'm never going to do this again.

Um, if I'm if I'm a guy like Aaron Judge who. does handle the zone very well, I if I. was Aaron Judge at all, I I'd be. confident in every single one of my. abilities. But, um, I our team's been. pretty solid with it. I me not so much, but again, I'm not going to be the guy. that's like really making most of those. challenges at all. >> Do you love it or hate it? Has it been. an overall good or bad for game, you. think? >> I think we've definitely seen some. moments where it's been really good and. then we've had like honestly I I think.

we've had one game where it's where it's. kind of kind of come back to bite us in. the ass, but like for the most part, we. we've made the most of the challenge. system and made it work for for us. And. then you know like late innings having. them is big but with our catchers like. our catchers been so solid with that. So. I trust those guys to kind of just go do. it whenever. >> What's that bat that got introduced to. my life? >> Torpedo. >> Torpedo bat. We using those. Are we. still using torpedo bats? >> Many are I I'm not man. I I can't I.

can't I can't find I can't figure out. where the barrel is on those bats. Like. it's just. >> it's in a sweet spot. That's what it is. I heard I heard it actually meant. >> yeah they like sorry they just they move. it down like they move the sweet spot a. little lower and like closer to the. hands and that's just a weird concept. for for my brain and my hand connection. to grass. Where you going man? >> We got we got a couple. torpedo. >> Yeah. So we saw what all the guys who. were cheating were doing. They got a. little different. You know they got this. thing looking like a cricket stick but.

it's got a bigger down here from what. I've been told. And then this is old. school here. Just kind of the funnel. effect, you know, cuz you used to put. cut off the top of these obviously. >> Mhm. >> And uh puts in. >> Yeah. Louisville chugger right at the. top of this bad boy here. Yeah. This. thing. And then obviously a torpedo. Hey, you good? All right. See you soon. Hey, so this thing here, it it was like. a cheat code for a bit. And you're. saying some guys just swing differently. and for you it's not like that. I mean, I think the the point of it is.

to like move it's to move the density of. the of the like sweet spot down in a way. that it actually helps your your misses. more. So, like the balls you maybe. wouldn't hit as well with the with like. the normal barrel. Um, I'm pretty sure. you get more forgiveness or at least. like a higher exit vo or better contact. um on the balls you mis hit. So, I don't. know. I just don't like feeling like the. barrel is closer to my hands cuz that's. usually when I get jammed. So. >> yeah. Um.

>> me too. >> It's just not a concept I can grasp. >> So are you guys allowed to use three. bats if you can hold it? Like if you. felt pretty comfortable, would you be. able to because it feels like this would. be a mass much better success rate. What. is the biggest. >> What is the biggest uh. >> Is there barrel size? Is there a barrel. size like that you you have to. >> Yeah, cuz what do we want that thing to. be the biggest? >> Is it minus three still? >> Like Fred Flintstone. >> BINGO. DABA DABA. Do that Can we. Can we get that thing like. >> hard to keep up the bat speed, I would. assume. >> No, not for.

your jaw. >> How big is your bat allowed to be? What. is your bat? What is a normal bat? And. how big is a bat allowed to be? We're. just trying to brainstorm here how you. could become, you know, maybe Mark. Magguire without eating all the, you. know, Yeah. the vegetables, the vitamins. Yeah. >> Well, I I appreciate you looking out. This this could help me in the long run. Um. I swing I swing a 3431. So that's 34 in 31 ounces. Um. >> like pant size. >> that's standard. >> That's Yeah. Yeah. Actually.

>> this is 34 31 and a half. >> There you go. Boom. >> Boom. >> Yeah, that's that's close to what I. swing. That's just a half half ounce. heavier. Um. >> give it a cut. Big deal. Yeah. Sorry. >> I do I have a cup in there. Um. [laughter]. a lot of guys a lot of guys uh swing a. similar size. A lot of guys swing like a. 33 and a half 31. I don't know, man. the. I have this uh Jose Bautista bat from. when he played and it's like it's it's. like the Fred Flintstone club. Like it's.

>> it is a dense piece of wood. Uh and I. don't I don't know if it's legal. anymore, but um I don't I wish I could. tell you what the the legal limit was. for for barrel size. >> Uh 2.61 in in diameter, 42 in in length. Okay. Is that the girth there? the. diameter it's talking about. >> That is the girth. >> Okay. So, 2.61 in in girth that these. things can have. And that makes sense. You know what I mean? Especially for you.

baseball guys. That makes a lot of. sense. >> You know what I mean? PC. >> Pretty pretty on brand. Yeah. [laughter]. >> You're the man. Thank you so much for. taking time. Uh good luck to your Cubs. as you guys continue on this win streak. hopefully of good time. Maybe till the. season's over. And uh. >> Yeah. Yeah. Why not? could happen. >> Why not? Let's just not lose ever again. >> Get the 2.61 lawn flashing. [laughter]. Get this thing to 42. Let's start. banging balls all over towns all over.

the place. We appreciate you, ladies and. gentlemen. That's Pete Crow. >> Yeah, PCA. >> Pizza Bro. >> Pizza Bro. >> Yeah, he's awesome. >> Love Pete. How old is he again? Do we do. >> 25? 24. 25. >> 24, I think. >> Cuz Cam Young, he's 28. >> 28, >> I believe. He's 24. I mean, >> come on. The next generation of sports. in a great place. We're incredibly lucky. that we get to have those convos because. we can start acting like we did them. Hey, the doctors on that one guy for the. Angels who robbed three home runs in the. outfield. It's going to be outrageous.

>> Yeah. More on that tomorrow uh as Sports. Center takes it away from here. I think. you know the show that's going to follow. us is going to be a big announcement. >> Really? Huh? >> Oh, really? >> That was a good ending. >> Jeez, what a te. >> big announcement. >> I think I think Eric's sports center. >> Okay. Is it really? >> I don't know. I don't I don't know. I. know too much, but not enough. You know, this is one of those things. >> That's a good spot to be in, though. >> Sometimes. >> No, I think it's worse place to be, which kind of where society is right. now. >> You're right. I was thinking the. opposite. [laughter] You know, you know, >> we all know too much, but not enough.

>> You want to be a little but not enough. >> That's kind of where we are. >> People think they know a lot. >> Bingo. >> A little bit of information is pretty is. dangerous. >> Yeah. But we have a lot of information. all of a sudden, but we don't really. >> know. Flooded with it. It's all part of. the plan. flood you with a bunch of. information so you never really know. what the truth. >> Whose plan are you talking about? >> Let's talk about they. Who's they that. you're talking about? >> I don't know. I'm trying to I'm trying. to I've been trying to figure out who. they is for 42 years now. I can't figure. it out. >> You know what I'm not doing? I'm not. joining them on a cruise ship ever. again.

>> No. >> Yeah. I I think that's we're going to. take that away from, you know, the. McAfee plans. >> the Rolodex. >> forever. Now, age, we know you love a. good cruise, >> but boy, it's. >> What is this virus? says weird viruses. >> Haunt virus. >> Haunt virus. >> Like Fanta, but hunter. >> Don't you wanna Haunt? >> We don't want to haunt. It It is uh that. that's that has to be worst case. scenario. You know, it took us back to. the poop cruise. You remember that a. couple years or back? >> A great dock or a great little dock they.

did on that. >> That would be scary, man. That'd be. that'd be a scary situation. Obviously, tease a piece for everybody. Uh. >> but that one sounds like it it's kind of. hit the algo pretty good. Yeah. But not. new. Just so we can clarify when you. know it's not some virus that is brand. new. This No, >> this is this is. >> I think we're gonna learn a lot about a. lot of that hopefully finally. >> Yeah, sure. >> But they'll probably just over. information everything and then we. probably won't learn anything. >> But then Aaron Rogers will come out and. say. >> he should come on to talk about this. >> I think he's a little more occupied now.

>> Is he? >> What's he doing? >> He's not doing those 500 page. >> He's boning. [laughter]. >> He's doing 500 pages of bon. >> potentially. He might be writing a book. on both. >> I mean, how long is the Kama Sutra? >> Uh, good question. >> Has he been to the jungle, too? You. know, there's so many different. >> Well, we know. Yeah. >> Yeah. That's where the haunt virus is. >> Well, welcome to the jungle. You know. what? He's bringing a lot of pain. >> This wood. >> Let's just be careful joking about this. virus. I'm sick of you always doing.

this. >> This isn't a new virus. I'm just saying. last time this happened, Foxy said, "Oh. yeah, this will be done in two days and. we're done with it forever." Foxy or. fashion two years later. >> Foxy or Fouchy? I had to hear what you. said cuz there was a couple people over. talking that because I was told two. weeks. >> basically. >> officially. Now I will say. >> us we didn't miss a day. >> Nope. No. >> We are safe 6 feet. We didn't make eye. contact for a few days as we were told. not to do that. >> None of us got it. >> Got vaccinated. >> But there is no way any of us could have.

expected what happened then. Okay. >> Losers. We would like everybody to get up and. exit the arena immediately. Do not panic, but if you do not leave, everybody could die. Do not panic. Please get out of the arena. Watch this has been cancelled. The NBA. has been cancelled. Everything has been. cancelled. Stay in your house for. >> do not panic. [screaming]. >> Actual. >> Yeah. >> Can't be having that again as a society. >> No. >> Let's go ahead and fight this haunt. >> Let's haunt Haunter. So, is it only on a.

cruise ship right now as far as humans. go? >> No, because it has been uh it has. occurred other places. I believe there's. a guy in Switzerland like this is this. is a common thing I think because it's. on a cruise ship. The cruise ship itself. is a bigger is a bigger deal. Yeah, it's. a small not even a cruise ship. >> It's not conval. >> What's that? >> Did they burn the cruise ship once they. got all the people off and just. >> They're still on it. >> I don't know if they got everybody off. >> I saw news they did get off. >> No, the Canary Spain said go land in the. Canary Island. Yeah, but I saw recently.

updated. >> Yeah, then. >> whatever the case, we hope everybody's. okay. >> Wow. >> We We hope everybody's okay. >> We're not doing the whole thing again. >> The whole the whole thing again. >> Yeah, I refuse. >> World world shut down. >> Can't. >> I feel like a lot of people would. probably resist more this time. >> Three evacuated off cruise ship with. suspected haunt virus cluster. World. Health Organization says. >> it's a fatality rate. Nope, we're not. getting into it because it's I think. Bailey Mcomes did some research earlier. which is always fascinating and he.

dropped some percentages on us and. >> Okay. Yeah, let's not share any. percentages he dropped. >> Exactly. Thank you. But he might be. right and we don't need to. >> Well, and who's given those? >> There's some votes though that are. happening. I don't know if you guys. heard about this. Uh big news coming out. of the American Football Coaches. Association, which is the union for the. coaches. They voted uh in a vote last. week. The AFCA board swing its support. behind one, a playoff with max. participants, 24. Two, discontinuing. conference championships as a whole. Okay, the game that decides a champion. where you play all season to earn your.

way in there. That has become quite a. hot button topic over the last few years. as teams that are trying to make it into. the playoff are forced to play in a. conference championship. Don't want to. play in a conference championship. because if they lose in the conference. championship, it's going to be held. against them for the playoff. But if. they didn't play in the conference. championship like some of their foes, they wouldn't have another loss. So now. all of a sudden does conference. championship game matter? Why are we. doing this? It's an extra game. People. get hurt that are going in the playoff. or somebody to potentially work make. their resume even worse going in the. playoff. A lot of the big conferences. have hated the conference championship. game over the last few years. I assume.

that the fans will still love it and. everything like that, but the coach. association said we're good with it. And. then also we'd like to end the college. football playoff by the second week of. January. Okay. Second week of January. This year the um upcoming national. championship is January 27th. >> Damn. second week or second Monday of January. could be January 8th technically or uh. if the math was to work out with a. Monday being January 1, which would. obviously be great uh great for. everybody's schedule as you start a new. week, you start a new year, but. nonetheless, they're trying to take a.

few weeks off. They're trying to say no. more conference championship games. Uh. there's also, I think, a by-week that. goes from two down to one. So, this has. been voted on by the uh American. Football Coaches Association. Now, >> upon hearing this, we go, "Oh, this. ain't a bad idea." Okay. Okay. It's. nice. This certainly does mean. something. Then we reach out to source. >> says and they told us basically that's. cute coaches. >> Okay. We're in reality here. >> All right. We got five, six, seven more. years of deals with a lot of money going.

to a lot of your pockets and a lot of. your schools, okay, that are having a. conference championship game and the. dates have already been. So, we. appreciate your vote. duly noted is kind. of what we were told that this vote was. kind of a piece of it, but the AFCA has. voted in things in the past and it's. gone publicly broadcasted and then ended. up happening. So, I do think this is a. massive sign of like the coaches just. basically saying, "Hey, we would be good.

with this if you guys were to pass. this." And I think the people that are. to pass it say, "Okay, well, wouldn't it. have been nice to maybe vote on this if. you understood what we kind of have to. do and are kind of a part of." So, I. think that is kind of where we lie right. now, AJ. >> Man, yeah. I guess just putting it out. there on their radar, but I when I first. saw this, I'm initially thinking, okay, like what if us as a show got together. and we voted something we wanted the NFL. to do. We're just suggesting something. That's basically what's happening, right? >> Yes. That is kind of what this funny you. weren't in. So, we made multiple calls. this morning just to kind of see what.

this meant. You were not here. You did. not get to experience this. I'm. appreciative of you thinking the same. exact way that I kind of thought as. well. As soon as I heard this, I was. like, I don't think this matters. So. then we call a couple people and. everybody that we called that would know. was like cool thank you we hear what. you're saying but this doesn't know this. means absolutely nothing and we're also. told that the coaches were not given any. information or ask for any information. about things that are like kind of. non-negot you know so from my. understanding this is the coaches saying.

we'd be okay with this but the actual. you know decisions that have to be made. are happening by people that are like we. can't thanks for putting that out into. the universe now we look like even. bigger whenever we have to do. what we have to do because that's not. the reality of the current situation. because although people hate it and it. certainly is something that people can. say ruins things. The money and the. business behind it all, especially now. for college football is a massive piece. of it. And there's some things I think. that like some of the people that are. voting on this are like are you taking. pay cuts then so we can get out of if.

that's what you're voting is that what. you want to do cuz we have to find a. billion dollars somewhere to give back. if we want to do all these changes. So I. think we're nowhere near a final. decision being made on all this. But I. do appreciate the fact that we're all. trying to push it to like hey we need a. better schedule. Uh we need better this. We need this. I think the coaches are. saying that as well. >> Yeah. Like it's it's cool for football, for the coaches, like yes, all these. things are done one last game. Uh the.

season's over basically before the. portal are around when the portal is so. those teams don't miss out on as much. But we celebrated it yesterday. The Big. 10 made what 1.3 or 1.4 billion dollars. and every single school got 75 or 78. billion. like those conference games uh. more games in the you know entire year. basically like that is what it's all. about and it's not just football like. that that money that the schools get it. helps a lot of sports not just football. So like even if it's just the football.

coaches like you would also think the. schools themselves would probably want. it to be the way it is now and not these. changes. >> The funny just the reaction of. okay. >> was awesome. Yeah. I'm telling you, it. was one of the greatest reactions I've. seen to something in in a while. Multiple multiple responses just going, we already got enough on our plate. We. we know, geez, we got a thousand things. we got to answer. And now coaches are. doing a vote without information and now. it's getting public. And it's like, I. think everybody wants the right thing.

What is the right thing? What's reality, too? Like, what's actually possible in. it all? Because January 27th National. Championship, that one's locked in. Yeah. I think that one is is locked. That's the one that needs to be figured. out cuz the last week of the season, >> 25th, sorry, not 25th, >> the regular season is what, November. 28th or whatever it is. It's the last. week in November, Thanksgiving weekend, like and then you have three or four. weeks off till the playoffs and then. after the semifinals, you have I think. last year was like 13 days or whatever.

between the semi-finals and the finals. That's absurd. Like the coaches are. putting these things out just kind of. trying to throw things out there. I. think the schedule, cuz we've talked to. coaches, I think the schedule is the one. that they probably feel most passionate. about ending closer to January 1st. Maybe not January 1st. That's probably. why they didn't put it there, but for. the portal and everything, the coaches. want it to end earlier than January. 25th. >> Yeah, it's late. We would like. >> for the players. Yeah. The player safety, the long season. end, you know, the players going to the. next level. Like you're ending at to end.

of January the combine is what a couple. a few weeks later days you got prep for. draft like that's a long long time. >> right in the longest season of your life. coming up in the NFL which is obviously. hard the rookie wall is a hit for. everybody especially for those that play. late into the college football playoff. if it gets to 24 teams I mean if without. any adjustments that these coaches have. voted for I mean this thing's going to. go till past Super Bowl you know so. hopefully there is some changes I also. can appreciate the fact that the coaches. are Like nobody listens to us.

>> Yeah, >> nobody listens to us. >> This decision is being made by suits and. people that aren't a part of this entire. thing. >> Maybe we should just. >> we'll just put out everything that we. guys. >> we've all agreed on. We would like the. world to know that we as coaches think. that this would be the right answer. >> and then the suits that have to make. decision are like. >> that's not possible. I wish we had a. golden plated road that we could all. just walk down in this entire thing. It's like, well, we're just letting the. world know this what we want, so.

make it happen. It's like, >> we got four different networks, five. different streaming companies. Uh, we. got five different leagues that have. five different contracts. We have, uh, deals that were just negotiated. We got. some off games to CW, I think, is having. some like we got a lot of there's a and. there's a lot of sports. There's a lot. of timing. They did go down from one. transfer portal, though, right? It used. to be two, now went down to one. Coaches. voted for that publicly. That ended up. happening. So, I think they are trying. to get it done. I think everybody is in. the mindset of trying to make it better.

I I do believe that. How we get there, though, >> so much money on the line. That's what. I'm saying. You got to if you have an. you have like a solution, you got to. find a way to make up for the money you. would lose if you didn't do it the way. they're doing it now. >> Speaking of the money, the Redbird. private equity Big 12 deal. >> Yes. >> 30 million per team if they wanted to. tap into it. We did a little research. I. think it's pretty high interest loan. >> basically. >> Oh, okay. >> I think there's other options for money. that have much less interest rates if. universities needed money.

>> So, I think it is at the point where. >> could definitely get it, but also it. would not be considered a good amongst. what comps are for getting if that makes. sense. >> Yeah, there was always we we knew we. knew there was something. >> Yeah, because nobody was taking it. Correct. So, you got to be giving up a. lot here. Turns out it's just like a. loan. The payback is. >> Yeah, >> it's right at 10%. Just under 10%. So, it's like a 9.99%. I think there's other. options that people could potentially. get though. >> Yeah.

>> I I took out a couple loans, >> some low yield bonds. >> totaled in $40,000 in college. >> Oh, yeah. >> Because of commercial, I saw 13. >> Did you get a good rate? >> It's like 27. [laughter]. >> Like the like the lockout loans guys. were taking. >> Yeah, exactly. I did that at West. Virginia University right from my dorm. 20,000 bucks first. >> I didn't even think about the lock up. How many loans were being taken out? >> Oh yeah. >> Oh yeah. Like 40% interest. Yeah. >> Yeah. They got me. But I just thought. I'd be in debt like everybody else. If I.

didn't make it to the league and if I. made it to the league, I'd be able to. pay it back. >> I mean, >> and I paid it 75,000 bucks back on that. 40,000. Worked out. >> I No, I'm joking. I uh. >> I certainly did. But you know there's. the uh cash advance places that. obviously taken it like there's always. >> the interesting thing of getting money. for what you're giving up is always the. constant convo you know. >> we've been having it I've been having it. >> it's a constant conversation you know. like what do you take what is owed. what's going to be held over your head.

all the time it's kind of like what you. need to balance in this life whether. it's uh money whether it's uh uh. anything literally anything. >> like getting something free you know if. someone wants to gift you something. Cool. Hey, I don't I don't want the. strings attached that are going to. that's going to come with that. >> Never. It's one of my rules. It's. literally one of my rules. I think it's. one of the first things that I teach. Uh. >> I said to you the other day. >> Yeah. I think Foxy legit Am I your only. boss other that golf course I guess you. didn't really work at? >> Yeah. Basically. >> Yeah. So, one of the first things Foxy I. taught him was like, "Hey, nothing's. free, bro. We don't take People. hold something over you for the over.

your head for the rest of your life. You. take a pair of pants from somebody." So, just, "Hey, remember I in." No, you didn't. No, you didn't. No, you did. not. I mean, we could send stuff here and. then all of a sudden we get. >> time. Exactly. Someone puts it up on. auction. Bingo. Who the did that? >> It was us that did that. >> What are we talking about? >> What? Yeah. I mean, it's just a never-. ending. You know, you can't do it. Nothing is free. Let Nothing is free in. this world. Okay. Especially in the mind. of the person that is giving the thing. That is a you'll get me back later.

>> Yep. >> But you give stuff to people with no. strings attached. Like people still do. that. Like I do like it doesn't have to. be that way I should say. >> But it is. >> it's good business I guess. >> It's good business what they say. >> How about Gary Bman? Good convo. >> Gary's great. He was chill, relaxed. >> Casual Gary. I like it. >> I was in the middle of balancing the. budget. Five games [laughter]. back in the office every single day. >> Well, that's the thing. That's why he's. so casual. the Canadian Sabres is gonna.

like we love the Stars or sorry the Wild. in the Avalanche but that's kind of. one-sided like he's got the seven game. banger coming up here tonight in the. best arena. >> and the Barnes both. >> he's probably going to Buffalo tonight. you know that's so close. >> I haven't seen the Bladen boys from. Buffalo. >> no out tonight. >> they've been icing their feet icing. their legs getting ready I'm glad I'm. not glad I'm bummed out the Bruins lost. I'm so excited now to kind of not root. for the Sabres but appreciate them even.

more now that we don't have to go up. against. >> experience the. >> experience the sabers more like like I'm. excited to see what the blade blades. boys do with the Canadians jersey on a. some sort of doll that they are fighting. with their rollerblades on in the middle. of downtown Buffalo. >> yeah I'm pumped for it as well and then. Ducks Golden Knights hello electricity. remember last time coach for Ducks who. kind of looks like a cartoon character. almost had his head explode whenever he. was so pissed off about a non-icing call. that led to the game leading goal ah Ah, yes.

>> Yeah, he's got some Looney Tunes in. [laughter]. >> pushing the guy's back. See, they're. always just have to fold their neck. They're always worried he's going to hit. him in the back of the head. >> My daughter watched a movie recently. He's a character in it. I I forget. [laughter] which one it was. Maybe Up. There's probably a bunch of them, but. >> Yeah, I think Up. You're taking Up, I. bet. >> Yeah, there's a new one, Swapped, that. just came out. >> on Netflix. Really? >> Yeah. >> I almost watched that. >> Animated thing. >> It's an animated thing. It was number. one in the kids thing. And uh obviously. any animation is going to capture Kenzie.

for a bit just it's so talented. >> It's crazy what all these kids movies. are, man. >> So negative at the beginning just to. lock in. >> teach resilience to battle adversity. >> Like I mean it's right there. >> That's the That's the Disney kind of. formula. Let's kill the parents right. away and then let's bring them back. >> It was the Lorax is what I see. >> Oh Lorax does look like. >> guy sold air or sold air on that. He's. kind of Loraxy. I'll tell you what, I. enjoyed the Lorax. >> Lorax is full.

>> Mhm. >> Yeah. Protector of the forest. >> He's also got the bugs bunny hunter. >> Can you put the Lorax up a little bit? Maybe. Can we put them next to each. other? Is that. >> Yeah. >> Back to him. >> That looks like. >> he looks like the hunter that killed. tried to kill Bug's Bunny. >> More fun. >> Not as fun when the rabbit has the gun. or. >> Yeah. >> I hope we see him that I explode. He. might. >> Loraxes love marshmallows. Maybe the. refs should think about uh giving giving.

the coach a marshmallow. >> Shut up, Joel. >> I'm not a big marshmallow guy. >> Me either. I think that. >> What about with s'mores though? What. about put on fire? >> Not a big guy. >> Something not a rice krispie treat guy. either. >> I'll do a s'more. I'll do a s'more. because it's the vibe. It's the. community. S'more is a thing. You're. very rarely doing that by yourself. I. will do the s'more activity, >> but boy, I'd much rather just have the. graham cracker with the Hershey. chocolate. Just eat that. Just don't.

make me burn my fingers. >> I'm with you. >> Okay, don't make me have to do it, but. I'll do it for the community. I'll light. that on fire. >> Put that thing right in there. That. thing will seep out over my thumb. I'll. get third degree burns. Hey, do the. whole thing. There's music playing. We're boozing pretty good. Probably some. smoke happening. I'll do it for the. vibes. But in my best life, that from. the very beginning would have had no. marshmallows in it. >> Wow. >> Yeah. Agreed. >> That's key ingredient. So that bag of. smells just laying around, you not just.

>> Never. >> You do. >> Yeah. What? >> When do you have one laying around. though? >> When you're making s'mores or maybe the. kids want to make some Rice Krispie. treats, whenever that bag is laying. around, especially the jumbo ones. When. I was a kid, I roasted and ate like 8 to. 10 marshmallows in a night and later. that night ended up catching the flu. >> So I puked. >> all night marshmallow. I haven't touched. one since. I think I was about seven. years old. >> I had that with orange juice. Just the. worst dumps as an 11year-old. I think.

just running right through. I might have. pooped my pants in public. >> I had that with orange juice. >> Well, orange juice. >> That's what I blamed it on for my whole. life. I blamed it on I assume it was. something else that I had that was. probably expired or something. probably. wasn't the orange juice at all, but. >> I remember being very embarrassed. publicly because I pooped my pants and. >> that'll happen. >> I like how old were you? 20 something. >> AJ, I already said I was like 11. or something. >> I didn't I didn't hear that part. I cut. out. >> Yeah, I'm sure it did. >> Adults poop their pants and talk about.

it all. >> So, sounds like guys that poop their. pants here. Uh so, [laughter] so uh. >> you guys jumped right on. >> sharding. Are you sharding? You're. talking about pooping your pants? >> No. That should take a full dump in your. pants. [laughter]. >> That should not be happening. How old. are you? That should not be happening. >> Uh 30 38. >> I don't think. >> How old are you? >> You're taking a full dump in your pants, though. >> Like like my daughter in her diaper. where there's a little. >> I did, but I I know people who do. >> Who? Adults. >> You know them, too. >> How old are they? 90.

>> They're migrants. >> Don't talk about the window washer like. that. >> Joe Hadley's not pooping his pants. Joe. forces other people to poop his their. pants. >> And [laughter] if he did, he had the. tools to clean them right away. And. exactly. If you would like your windows. cleaned in Western Pennsylvania, you. need to call Joe Hadley. 412795. I'm joking. I don't know what his number. is. >> Joe Hadley's window cleaner. Just Google. it. >> And his schedule is booked. Don't. call him. >> Called them. >> He needs you. He's got a family. >> A beautiful one. >> Yeah. >> Growing obviously. But no, Joe Hley's.

not pooping his pants. Who's pooping. your pants? >> Kaboli has pooped his pants. Yeah, is. definitely. >> I have full diarrhea in my pants if you. remember like three years ago over. February break after the Super Bowl. >> Oh yeah, you had the tacos. >> Full Yeah, like and that's probably the. only experience I've had with food from. one specific place that I'll never do. again. But aside from that, like if you. >> Were you at home? >> No, public. >> I was on my way. I was on my way home. I. was walking home. But if you you just. get back up. >> walking home. So that was a. >> Oh,

>> no. That's when it started. It didn't. actually happen till in my apartment. >> You pooped your pants in your apartment? Yeah, dude. It was crazy. >> You made it all the way to the apartment. and then just let loose as soon as you. get in. >> I felt fine once I got back. I was like, "Okay, I'm good." Like I just. >> almost sat down. >> Yeah. >> Didn't even shower after. Just went to. bed. >> That's not true. [laughter]. >> Smart play. >> Took me like two hours. >> Not a smart play. >> Can you imagine? >> That's most efficiency. You know, >> an army crawl to the bathroom. How How. do we. >> Yeah, you got to put plastic bags around. your feet. What do you do? >> I got close. I was in the bathroom when.

it happened. I was right there. >> Oh no. That's. >> diary on the wall. >> I've peed on my pants before. accidentally. I haven't peed my pants. on. >> Yeah, that happens to me a lot, actually. >> I peed on my pants. >> Sure. >> That's a moment you got to have with. yourself. Oh, I'm in public right now. >> Yeah. >> How's that work, dude? >> You're an adult. >> You got to go speak to these people. Go. to a hand thing. >> Mhm. [laughter]. >> Or or splash like your whole. >> That's both fashion. You do fashion. You. do fashion legs.

>> Oh, sorry guys. sink exploded or. something. >> Or buy the Tim Robinson pants. >> That would be funny. Just to. >> I don't know what the Tim Robinson pants. are, but yes, we should try to buy them. The splash of water just to make it look. like it's a fashion movie. >> You got to something. >> That water pressure is crazy. >> Yeah. A lot of guys. >> a lot of guys had mayonnaise issues. there for a while on their pants, too. Remember that? People were having a lot. of sandwiches mayo. I think Foxy was a. big mayo. >> I I hate mayo, actually. >> Dork. >> All right, dude.

Who the hates? >> I'm with you, Fox. >> Yeah, I don't I'm not a mayonnaise guy. >> What the Yeah, you don't eat food. >> I love kleslaw, though. So, and I hear. it's in kleslaw. We've had this talk, but yeah, I do love kleslaw, but I would. never have put mayonnaise on anything. else. >> I don't know if I've had that. conversation with you, but I do. appreciate the fact that you've had that. before. It sounds like you you've had to. uh uh kind of defend your mayonnaise. hate while also liking something that. mayo's in. That happens to me with like. any creams, sour cream, cream cheese. >> I don't like them, >> but then they're in recipes, you know.

Mhm. >> You don't like cream cheese? >> No, dude. >> And I say I hate mayo, but it's. basically on every sack of subs we get, and I still eat it. So, it's like it's. >> Yeah. So, do you actually hate it? >> Yeah, exactly. >> I can't like I can't see it. If it's. snuck into a sack of subs, subs going. down, >> but if I'm getting a sub made sack of. subs, >> I'm not getting made. I'm not telling. them to put mail. >> I am starting to figure out we we got to. figure out how to get good subs whenever. we're traveling. I'm about sick of the. They have to leave the condiments. off to the side. Let's let us put those.

on ourselves. >> I have no complaints about this episode. >> No, but they are sometimes a soggy. >> The wings. How about the wings though? Whole. >> wings are always 10 out of 10. Great. >> We're starting to figure out how to be a. mobile operation, you know, and that's. going to pay off. I think I think that's. going to pay off for us at some point. But we are uh. >> we are kind of little Rolling Stones of. a not the band, but like actually just. kind of pick up and move where we're at. And we've kind of got it figured out at. this stage. >> I like what we're doing. Yeah.

>> I'm pretty proud of us. Karen, also Miss. Karen knows exactly when, where, how, what needs to be there. We got a good. little system going. I'm proud of us. That's a logistical nightmare, I assume, for a lot of people. >> Definitely. >> all that. >> Half the battle. >> Miss Karen kind of a dog. A bit of a. dog, a super dog. But the wings have be. >> always 10 out of 10. >> Always a deliver. >> The pso subs. Just because half of it is. sometimes soggy doesn't mean you can't. just take it off and turn it into like a. sub pizza. It's just as delicious. And a. way to maybe beat that is just we have.

like a designated suck subs where. someone just picks it up on the way. The. only way the only way it gets soggy is. if it sits there for a while. If we pick. it up. >> and we know how some of the people, you. know, they want that thing to get soggy. biscuit. >> Bingo. Sitting on it. >> What? >> What's that? >> What are you talking about? What are you talking about? >> I don't know. I'm I'm genuinely. confused. >> Ketchup, man. AJ always eats all the. cheese. >> Soggy biscuit. I do like cubes of. cheese. If it's on a plate, I'm eating.

If it's not fancy cheese, >> let's do some news, please. Have you. heard from Aaron if it's going to be a. Arizona Cardinals this season or if it's. going to be the Pittsburgh Steelers or. if it's going to be a retirement tour. We want answers. Now, >> that's I am not the guy to come to if. you need answers about this situation. I. tell you what, Ian Rapaort, he and Leah, though, they reported that Arizona does. not seem like a likely outcome, right? >> So, >> I think I tried to say that yesterday. >> So, anytime AJ says something that. somebody else says, that's him finding. out what's allowed to be said and then.

putting it on them as opposed to. himself. [clears throat] We've seen it. many times in the Aaron Rogers offseason. sagas. >> Uh AJ just said, what did Rap say? Not. happening. Okay, I'll go with what he's. saying. That is AJ knowing. and finding who he can retweet. That. one, right? Sure, >> we've seen it before. We appreciate him. doing that. He's done this in the past. >> Somebody would say somebody said that. he's still going to play football, right? Yeah. I think that would be the. most logical thing cuz remember there. was a time where he was going to. potentially retire. >> Oh yeah. >> Then he went into a dark hole. I think. he was planning on retiring. Comes out.

of the dark hole. Holy hell. Was Amish. there for 48 hours. Had no lights, no. power, no contact with the world. Had a. bunch of text messages. He basically get. shoot out of the Packers. Oh, that's not. how he wanted to go out. >> Nope. And now, is he chasing a perfect. finale? >> Feels like it. >> Will that ever happen at AA Arizona? >> Nope. You never know. >> Although, what about the New York Jets? There was that photo rolling around. I. don't know if it was real or not of him. wearing that Jet sweatshirt recently. Have you heard anything about that?

>> He was wearing a Jet sweatshirt. recently. >> I think it was an old photo. >> I think someone Yeah, just it was good. internet and they got they got a lot of. people. There's some new accounts that. people aren't aware yet that are just. troll accounts. >> Oh, we're talking aggregating trolls. >> No, even worse. More more like uh hey, this is a to what Foxy just said. Hey, this this account says football. Let's. say let's call it football crave. They're the newest one and they are the. ones that are taking old photos and then. basically making the caption like Aaron.

Rogers spotted in a in a New York Jets. hoodie leaving his hotel. I'll tell you. what, the internet will get me. sometimes, especially if it's like a. highlight tape or a video from training. or something like that. >> Get me all the time. >> Was Malachi Tony wearing uh pants? >> Yeah, Capri. >> What? He was. >> Capri with J. >> Yeah, when he was training down there. First of all, love Jackson Smith and. Jigba kind of opening up training for. college guys looking to do uh or be the. next generation. Also love the Malachi. Tony already established, already. famous, already a dog, so comfortable in.

what he's doing. He just wears baggy. clothes to a wide receiver workout. I. love everything about it. That's a. statement in of itself by Malachi. >> Yeah, he's an absolute dog and I love. him. Crafting out there with uh I would. say coming into this season, the best. wide receiver in the National Football. League right now. So, um you're always. trying to get that edge down there in. South Florida. A lot of these guys do. this. College guys, high school guys, pro guys. It's one of the edges you get. down there. >> Are those snap pants? >> Are those throwback snap pants right. there that Malachi was wearing? I do. wonder when he ran when we saw the uh.

>> Gez. my my knees would just blow up. >> Good luck covering that. >> Yeah, absolutely. Are those snaps? >> They do look like they look like it. >> I thought they were jeans. >> They're not snap. >> I think they're snaps. Those are snaps. >> Swiss with some sauce. >> I see some snaps. Snaps. Yeah, there are. snaps. >> Malachi snapping. Those are snaps. Yes, they're back. >> I love it. Wait till you guys feel the. swishy pants. Snappy pants to about to. take over. You guys have no idea. Walk. into a place.

How you doing? Keep it moving. Now, I. will say with the new snap community, you will very rarely unnap any of those. Those will just become pants with snaps. down the side. And every once in a. while, one or two of them will get kind. of unnapped and it'll be uncomfortable. There will be a breeze that'll get. through that you do not expect. Snaps in. theory great. Didn't really live up to. their potential except for basketball. warm-ups. >> Basketball warm-ups very cool. That's. about it. >> Life not so much. Malachi Tony he said I. want sails around my legs so it. slows me down so I have to train harder.

I like what he's doing. He's like he's. training at altitude though. >> I don't know if those are snaps. >> Definitely snaps. There's a couple. >> right there. Snap. Snap. Snap. >> Those don't look like the Amazon snap. pants I have. Those look like a little. nicer. >> Remember back at our school everyone. started going commando because everyone. was pulling their snaps off and it was. like jokes on you. I'm wearing nothing. underneath. >> Yeah. It was always uh you had to. prepare for an outcome when you put the. snap seat on. >> just in case. >> Yeah. >> It's not really jokes on the the guy. pulling the pants if old buddy's dong is.

out. It's like, hey, jokes's on you. Depends on your dong. >> Yeah, it depends on how you feel about. yourself, Bob. >> Yeah, you're right. Depends on how. flaccid you might be. But yeah, >> thank you for letting me show this off. I've been waiting. >> That would [laughter] be awesome. >> Now, on that note, >> my fault getting them back. >> Hold on. Hold on. Take a picture. It's the last time. >> Leaving the bottom two. Snapping down at. the bottom. Kind of loose. >> Sure. >> Always. Those are the days. >> Malachi gets it. He's throwback guys.

Old school. >> Old school player. >> He's snapping his pants. Yeah, >> it's crystal ball boys. >> I don't know if they're. >> What's that? >> Why are they Capri style snaps? I don't. understand. >> This is their generation. They're always. going to do their own this. generation. Uh Bryson Dshambo said, "I'm. gonna be a YouTuber then. off." And. uh that was quite a big statement. >> Yeah, it was. >> Bryson said I love you know Bryson. massive git for Liv. Massive git. >> One of the most popular golfers on tour. Obviously big golf ball whacker guy on. tour. He was an attraction. Uh he became.

an incredible YouTube content creator. Very relatable. We started learning a. lot about Dsham Bro and uh obviously he. takes his talents over to live. Was. still able to play in the majors. played. the best I think out of all the Liv. players on a regular basis. Also became. the most famous, most relevant in the. entirety. Now getting back into the PGA. from the Liv seems like something that. uh might not be the easiest it sounds. like. Uh from Bryson Dshambo's point, he's just focused on YouTube, bro. So I.

like that he's just potentially is he. just viewing himself as a retired. golfer? I'm just content creator and. then he'll get to play in the majors and. then just kind of keep it moving and. this is his life now because he's. already been paid a couple hundred. million dollars from his last tour. >> It's a great question. Um, I believe. this was like he said if if Liv folded. So, obviously we'll still have to see. what's happening there. Um, I would love. to see how he would fare if he only did. YouTube golf and then played the majors. Uh, feels like something that probably. wouldn't go well. This is a guy who uh. did the crime and doesn't want to pay. the time. Okay, that's kind of what. Bryson's doing here. He wants everyone. everyone everyone drop your egos, but.

he's not willing to pay any concessions. for what he did. Okay, everybody. everyone's going to drop their egos. except for Bryson. Okay, have fun balls. over your house and in little red cups. and then see how it fares at the majors. Sounds like you're pretty passionate. about this. Did not expect that. I love. when he was chipping it over his house. 21 days or whatever it was. I enjoyed. the content. Him showing up at majors, being able to play well was certainly be. a question mark. That's kind of been the. live story of this whole thing. You guys. got paid a lot of money. Do you still. care about golf? Damro has done well. And I think if he was to just go. YouTube, he feel like he'd be. representing the YouTube golfers out. there in the majors.

>> He came here in the back of the. Thunderdome. >> He was. He did. >> I can't believe you're saying this about. Bryce. He'll be he'll be back in the. PGA. >> Yeah. Hey, he's one of the five guys we. talked about earlier like C that Cam. Young mentioned. There is a handful of. people. He's one of them. Now, if John. Rom says that his contract is pretty. tough to get out of till 2029, I'm. assuming Bryson D. Shambo's contract is. the exact same. So, if there's just a. little inkling of Liv where there's 25. people going to a Mun and they're going. to put on a some sort of tournament, which is kind of what I'm expecting at. this point, [laughter] and they're going.

to pour about, you know, $5 million into. it over the next three years. He's going. to be there wi with John Romp. >> What's that? Bruce raising his hand in. the back with some clarification. Maybe. >> close. >> Um if if PIF is pulling out, who's like. enforcing Liv's side of the contract? And won't they eventually run out of. money for lawyers to enforce said. contract. >> Louis Vuitton, Travis Scott. >> Yeah, they had a CEO. >> Yeah. >> Scott O'Neal. Shambo. >> Bryson said he was shocked that Piff. pulled out. Really?

>> He said there was communication. This. guy's got no. >> It was described. >> WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? EVERYBODY. WAS TOLD that they were in it to to win. it. >> DESCRIBED AS A BOTTOMLESS PIT. >> IT DOESN'T MATTER IF YOU HAVE seven. quadrillion dollars. You don't want to. keep dumping trillions and billions into. it and not getting any return. >> That's kind of what we were. a couple years. >> Seven quadrillion dollars. You're not. worried about the force majour. situation. >> Yes, you are. >> But it did feel as if, you know, they uh. kind of changed it all. you know, feeling like they kind of changed it all. because at the beginning, you know, this.

was kind of the money that they had over. there. >> They said it was golf but louder. >> There's no way you could do this again. >> And they said, "We will support you.". >> Okay, I'm watching it. >> They put everything in there. 5 billion. worth in there. >> And they said, "You got everything you. possibly need. We're going to go ahead. and do golf but louder.". >> Zoom that in. >> You jamming in with your other fingers. Why are you jamming with your thumb? >> I jam. Yeah. Whatever you want. >> Don't cover your mouth. You put in your. mouth. >> No, no, no, no problem. You take all.

that money. >> Uh-huh. Watch this. >> And now what are you left with? >> Piff said we're out. So Liv's got. >> Oh, holy. >> WHERE' IT GO? >> WOW. >> WHERE GO? WHERE' IT GO? WHERE IT GO? OFF. THE SLEEVE. NO. NO. NOTHING. >> IT'S GONE. >> IT'S GONE. MONEY'S GONE. OH, go for. >> So maybe we'll get Damro back in PGA. because they won't be able to uphold the. contract cuz they're supposed to pay him. a certain amount of money. So maybe. it'll be a breach on their end. Maybe. Rombo won't be able to get a paycheck. from Liv who doesn't have the PIFF. backing. So that's a breach on their.

end. And maybe the boys are welcomed. back into the PGA after they go ahead. and grounds a little bit. >> Yeah. >> And maybe we got all the best golfers. battling every single weekend at every. single PGA tournament. That is possible. And I like that. >> That'd be cool. >> That' be the win. >> Is Piff still doing boxing? >> We're hopeful. >> What's that? >> Are they still doing boxing? >> Yeah, Zufa is still going. Ring Magazine. still going. >> I don't know if they're going to pull. out of that, too. >> Probably down the road. >> Turkey. Turkey is separate from this PIF. venture. He is. >> Oh, okay. I did not know that. >> Yeah. >> He's operating on his on his own accord.

as long as the crown prince, God bless. him, allows him to do so. >> Okay. And they didn't say that they're. going to they basically said, "We're. done with this. We're not done with I. think, right? Didn't they know what they. said? >> They said this one not." Yeah. >> They handed over the production of that. thing to some doofus. I mean, I don't. know who it assume was somebody. That. was the dumbest disaster. >> I mean, absolutely. >> How do you put all that money into the. thing and then just hand it over to a. >> I think they actually thought the live.

events would carry it and it's like, no, you need a TV copy that people watch and. thousands and hundreds and millions of. people watch. It made no sense. And I. love Bryson and his YouTube career and I. love all YouTubers out there. I. genuinely do. I need him on Sundays. I. don't care about his YouTube career. Yeah, I need him to do the. >> boom. the tracker. Oh, a little left. Way left. I think. he's a decent blue. talking [clears throat] to his guy.

Brand new club he just 3D printed in a. clubhouse hours beforehand. It got. approved. Thanks. >> Yeah, actually takes longer. Okay. >> Yeah, stupid question. >> You want to make some picks for. tonight's games, AJ? Huh? You got. >> Let's do it. >> You got uh in the NHL, [clears throat]. you got the Canadians and the Sabres. Game one. Uh, that's going to be. electrifying. Obviously, Conman just. talked about how he can't wait to see. what the Blade Boys are up to there in. Buffalo. Uh, who do you like? How do you. like it, AJ? >> I mean, I have a hard time picking. against the the Blade Boys. So, give me. Buffalo here for sure at home.

>> Yeah, Debbut, your thoughts. >> I'm Buffalo as well. >> Blades. >> Toxone. >> Blades. >> Con man. >> Oh, man. I. I hate to say it, but I might go. Canadians. Didn't you just say you can't. wait to ride home? I can't wait. But. yeah, La just have something going about. it and Marty St. Louis. But hey, look, >> we're all winners cuz that place is. going to be crazy. >> I'm going to take the Sabres. Obviously, I'm not a psychopath. Let's go Ducks at. Golden Knights. Uh 9:30 on TNT. This is.

going to be one of those flashlight ones. that's going to kind of get you in the. third period. Uh who do you like? How do. you like it, AJ? >> I'm riding with Tors here in the Golden. Knights for sure. >> They're up 10 in the series. Ducks, >> I'll pick the Golden Knights as well. >> Tone, >> uh, they have a bit of a wagon right. now, so yeah. >> Okay. You like the Knights as well, and. Con? Man, >> you quack it up, dude. I'm taking the. Ducks. >> I appreciate you saving the graphic. I. love everything about it. Golden. Knights, obviously. >> Uh, playing the best hockey they have. played. The Lorax though for the Ducks.

>> I don't think he's going to lose after. that happened last. >> I mean, it was 1-1 with five minutes. left, so it was good. It was good. hockey. >> I'll quack with you. Let's go with them. Let's go to the NBA playoffs tonight. Sixers at Knicks. Obviously, that went. from 7 and a half to 10 and a half. immediately upon Joel Embiid being ruled. out this evening with hip and knee. >> Yeah. >> Ankle hip and ankle stuff happening with. him. Obviously, he's a giant of a man. Uh it's tough to. I don't know how he does anything. I. don't know how Wendy does, which we'll.

talk about here in a second. And then. the Knicks obviously on fire. Ben. Stiller back in the building, we assume. Uh and obviously Celebrity Row going to. be electric. Who do you like? How do you. like it, AJ? >> I'm going to ride with the Knicks at. home. Even though Ben Stiller will be. there in the front row cheering him on, I don't think he will be bad luck, but. 10 and a half feels like a lot, but I. I'll take the Knicks to cover. >> Okay, you got Knicks - 10 and a half. A. debut. >> Yeah, it shouldn't feel like a lot after. that ass whooping they just put on him, but I'm going to I'm sticking with the. Sixers. I think they cover tonight. >> Sixers plus 10 and a half, says Debbut.

Let's go to the talks of table. Tone, who do you like? >> Yeah, basketball gods Tyresese Max's got. the ball in his hands a lot more this. game. Give me the Sixers. Okay, Sixers. of both guys on the stage thus far. Connory, is that a clean sweep? >> No, I'm taking the Knicks minus 10 and a. half. >> Yeah, me too. I will take the Knicks. minus 10 and a half. And then let's go. Timberwagons. A little bit of a buzzsaw. taking on the San Antonio Spurs. Perk. calls this a must-win game for San Anton. cuz you think you're going back to. Minnesota and get a win? Yeah, right. >> Timberwolves rolling. AJ, who do you.

like? How do you like it? As the Spurs. are favored by 10 and a half. Yeah, I. love everything about Ant-Man and what. he's doing, but I'm taking the Spurs. here minus 10 and a half at home. >> Debucks. >> Damn, I'm torn on this bounce back. Bounce back. >> after Perk. Perk got me. >> I'm I'm going to go to Spurs. Spurs. bounce back. You're right. They win and. they win big at home. >> Okay. Spurs minus 10 and a half. >> Uh they win, but they don't cover. >> Spurs like the Wolves. >> Yeah, Wolves plus 10. >> That's a twofer there from Tone from. Hammer. Con man.

>> Yep. With them. Close game. Wolves. cover. Spurs win. >> Can we see Ant getting taken out in the. fourth quarter to rest? >> No. >> Spurs up. >> Oh, well, yeah, they're up a ton. >> Does this become one of those? >> Could they're up 20? Yeah. >> In my mind, I just saw that. >> a bounce back game for the Spurs. I. think. >> I don't love that. I just saw that. >> But everything tells me about WBY is he. would not let that that they're going to. go crazy. I think. >> I mean, definitely take the WBY points. tonight if we're talking point bets. He.

went 0 for8 from three last time. That. won't happen again. You you can count on. his points. go Bear is tough, man. >> God cannot cover outside the paint. So. hopefully if WBY can hit one or two of. those threes. >> So tonight's spreads are both double. digits. >> Yep. >> Not good for ball. >> I believe in Antman. Give me Antman. Give me Ant-Man plus 10 and a half. >> Okay. >> What am I talking about? I just for two. hours I talked about how much I. love the guy. >> Mhm. Then what? He's gonna let them just.

get blown out. >> You like WBY, too. >> Today, Luke, >> I love WBY. >> But WB's never been here. Lob dunks. tonight. >> You don't have to like WBY like 10 and a. half times more. >> You can just like him to get points. >> I think they should have called timeout. with 7.2 seconds left. I think he should. have went to the front court. And I. think they should had Wendy go like this. and tip it in and go to overtime. That's. what I think they should have done at. the end of the game. Instead, they get a. wide open up in three. They miss it. They should have won that game in their. eyes. Probably. Yeah, >> probably.

>> the crowd will be in it. >> They They'll always be in it. Great. crowd. Probably. >> Maybe the Spurs minus 10 and a half. Let's get out of here. Be a friend. Tell. a friend something nice might change. their life or in this thing together. >> AJ, great show out of you today, Paul. >> Good job, guys. You too. >> Are we hoisting it today? Paul SK's. pitching. >> Ski day. >> How's Show doing? Show still pitching. >> Show's pitching really well. He's not. hitting very well. >> Oh, so if Tai was here, Tai would say. this is kind of what we're talking. about. Nobody's been able to really do. both at super high level. Just not.

possible. That's what Tai would say. >> I believe Shi said like if I was hitting. better, I assume I'd be hitting on. pitching days, but he he's not. So, >> and that's cuz he focusing more on. pitching because he is a pitcher and. he's up for the award. >> Yeah, he's pitching guys. Very, very. good. >> I mean, that that thing's moving, sweeping. See you later. >> He made Altuve look real bad. >> He's got like a.7 RA. >> Somebody on the internet said Altuve. missed by an entire Altuve. Yeah, but. two pitching ninja. >> I mean, that's what the that's what the.

internet says. >> cuz [laughter] Aluve is not the biggest. guy, but it was certainly a big big old. whiff on it. Here it is right here. This. is from Pitching Ninja. >> Yeah, he missed. [laughter]. >> That's I'm. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Somebody actually put. >> Oh, instead of a bat, they put Altuve in. his hands and had him swing himself and. Yeah. >> He's still a strike. >> Oh, boy. >> Yeah. I mean, that's what the Altuve. great hitter. We know that. >> We've seen him running the bases. We've. seen him coming home a lot. We talked. about that. >> champ. >> over the last few years. Show though. Unbelievable.

>> I think he'll his battle will heat up. >> Yeah, of course. >> For sure. >> All right. We appreciate you all for. allowing us to do this for a living. It. is a uh joy. We are in the middle of up. to something season. There's a lot of. things cooking right now. It's all crazy. >> and it only happens because of you. Can I get a little bit more faith. whenever these next couple announcements. roll out from you? >> You know, because it feels like some up. to something seasons I get like really.

proud of and we get like really happy. about and a lot of things have gone into. it and then all of a sudden when it gets. announced. >> some of you use it as a way to just. attack me as a human and I'm like what. the have I done? Mhm. >> So if I could have a little bit more. faith, if we could have a little bit. more faith from all of you, >> they will. >> We will continue to be wildly grateful. for all of you as we [clears throat] as. a team, us and you are doing cool.

for sports. >> We're very lucky and thankful to do it. all. You are the best. Thank you for. letting us do this. Be a friend. Tell a. friend something nice. It might change. your life. Debbuck, great work this. week. >> You too, brother. >> Safe travels. >> Thank you. >> Safe travels. Pleas. >> Thank you. >> Team on me. Team on three. One, two, three. Goodbye.