The Pat McAfee Show Live | Wednesday May 14th 2025

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[Music]. Hello beautiful. people and welcome to our humble abode. The Thunderdome on this NFL schedule. release day. Also the paces are the ECF. Wednesday's show starts now. sports are happening all around us. And. obviously in this particular city with. this particular team, they punched their. ticket to the Eastern Conference Finals. Once again, last year they lost four zip. to the Boston Celtics in the Eastern. Conference Finals. They were a team that.

was not expected to make it to the. Eastern Conference Finals. They were not. a team that was expected to be one of. the four teams left in the NBA all. season long. And then they go on this. miraculous run last year, captivate this. entire city, this entire state, this. entire fan base. And then this year, the. beginning of the season, they're not. that great. And then post all-star. break, they have been the best team in. the NBA, both rec record-wise and. optics-wise. They are led by what the. hell? Tyrese Hallebertton, who is voted. the most overrated player in the NBA.

There's a lot of these uh basketball. journalist people that are saying, "Yeah, he's pretty good player. He's. pretty good player. He's pretty good. Yeah, he's [ __ ] led his team to the. Eastern Conference finals in. back-to-back years as a 24 year old. He's an Olympic gold medals. Didn't get. to play. Didn't get to play, but did get. invited over a lot of people. You know. why? Because the people that actually. play basketball respect this dude. True. point guard who obviously has a.

three-point shot that is unique, but it. finds buckets. I don't think he's missed. a free throw other than on purpose for. like six months, whatever the case. and. his teammates love him. And it's not. just Tyrese Hallebertton, it's also. Miles Turner who's been here for 10. years through many different. transitions. Spicy Pascal Seakum traded. from Toronto last year mid-season. He's. a perfect buyer. N Smith, Nhard, TJ. McConnell, and Rick Carlau, the head. coach. He's been a guy that's been shued. out of a couple different cities after. building a winner. This team perfectly. epitomizes the city in which they.

represent. And this city loves hoops. And the fact that the Pacers are back in. the Eastern Conference Finals is not a. surprise to those of us who actually. watch them play. The only issue with. watching them play is if you're a. national fan or an NBA fan or a fan of. another team, you haven't been able to. watch them because they're never put on. national television. They've tried to. hide this Pacers team. Which is why I. think 11 out of 11 people on ESPN. projecting what this Cavaliers series. were going to go projected the Cavaliers. to win in either a gentleman sweep, an.

outright sweep, or in six or seven games. because nobody has seen this Pacers team. play. If you've watched them play since. the All-Star break, they're fast. So. fast. They'll run your ass out of the. gym. Everybody's like, "Well, they play. against teams that aren't healthy.". Well, that's cuz in a best of seven. taking on this Pacers team, they're. setting the pace, brother, and that. thing is moving. you're going to have to. keep up. Now, it stinks that Donovan. Mitchell hurt his ankle and he wasn't. fully healthy. Moy was playing Don. Everybody was playing on the number one. seed uh Eastern Conference Cleveland. Cavaliers team. And I must say, watching.

Donovan Mitchell do his thing was fun. Now, I posted a uh about Donovan. Mitchell last night. I said, you know. what, it's been fun to watch Donovan. Mitchell in this particular series. He's. a dog. It does feel like he's battling. through a lot. Everybody is. It's a long. season, everything like that. All. anybody respond to me is he's a free. throw merchant. He's a free throw. merchant. He gets more calls than. anybody. It's like also he hawks up. threes like this and somehow they fall. It was very obvious he was carrying that. Cleveland Cavaliers team on his back. when he was not doing great. They were.

not doing great. He had 40 in a game. against the Pacers. He had 35 plus last. night. I mean, this dude was fun to. watch. I had no idea he gets as much. hate as he gets as well on the internet. But nonetheless, number one seed. Great. season out of the Cleveland Cavaliers. Great season. Not everybody can make it. to the Easter Conference Finals. Pacers can back to back years and maybe. finally they'll get some respect and. maybe finally they will think to. themselves maybe Tyrese Hallebertton is. a he's a leading man. This guy is an. absolute superstar and I know he won't. say it because he is a humble uh.

superstar and that might be a part of. his problem. He's a funny dude. Uh he's. got a lot of moxy. Will rather do a sick. pass to somebody than take it to the. rack. will if he has to. He went for 30. obviously last night in a uh series. night plus 54 in uh minutes when over. the last two games against the Cleveland. Cavaliers when Tyres Hallebertton was. playing. So like the guy can score is. willing to score but he's a team first. guy and I think that's why the boys all. buy in. We'll be talking to Tyrese in. like 5 to 10 minutes or so obviously.

late night traveling back from Cleveland. after demolishing them in a gentleman's. sweep uh to get to the Eastern. Conference Finals. But yeah, it's a. great time to be in Indiana. And I at. Smackdown, what was the date of that. Smackdown, Foxy? January 31st. January. 31st. Said this. How excited are you to have the Royal. Rumble in Indianapolis? I'm very. excited. I'm very excited. Indiana, don't we deserve this? Yeah, we do. I. like how he says we, too, by the way. Yes, we do. I'm so excited to be here. It's going to be a lot of fun. Great. weekend. We're thankful you're here. And.

tomorrow you take on the Atlanta Hawks. in this building at 5:00 p.m. Eastern. How's that going to go? And then are we. going to see you at the Royal Rumble. tomorrow? It's going to be a good game. Uh patients are hot. We had a great. January and we just want to keep it. rolling. So, uh you know, goals to get a. win and get to the Rumble. He said they. had a hot January. This the best team in. the NBA. Best record in January. They're. getting hot at the right time. Cole, we're hanging a banner in this building.

because of this young stud and spicy. pee. Everybody said I was uh pandering. at the time. No, I was just watching. I. was actually just getting a chance to. watch them play. They all buy in. They. all run and they don't give a damn who's. the one that's going off on that. particular night. It might be Miles. Turner hitting step back threes. It. might be Pascal doing his wild [ __ ]. taking it to the rack. It might be. Tyrese Hallebertton doing his thing. You. know what? Nehart has taken over game. Mith has taken over games. guys that. you've never heard of because once again. they're not on national TV. Now you're.

going to have to respect them. You're. going to have to see them. They're back. in the Eastern Conference Finals. And. with Kevin Pritchard, the director of. basketball operations, I think for the. Indiana Pacers, how he has pieced this. team together for dogs is what he's. looking for. Obviously need to be able. to play basketball, but we need dogs. It's a perfect fit for coach Carlo. It's. a perfect fit for this city. And uh they. punched their ticket back to be one of. the final four in the entire NBA. Congrats to them. I'm proud of this. Pacers team. Hell yeah. Pride and. special. Never hear a peep out of them. No, never hear a peep out of them. Just. kind ofoop. We'll just do our thing.

We'll keep working. And uh they've. obviously garnered respect from. everybody, their peers. And now it seems. like the media is going to be forced to. talk about it. I didn't hear a lot of it. this morning. You know, did see the. other day who's going to get their first. title, Ant-Man or Hallebertton? It was. like wow. Yeah. Holy hell, we're. complimenting Hallebertton here. This is. good news. This is the first time he's. young. A lot of career left. Good for. them. who will join them in the Eastern. Conference Finals. Maybe we find out. tonight or maybe the Boston Celtics. Let's go to the toxic table at Tai.

Schmidt at Boston Connor. You guys are. without Tatum officially torn Achilles, which is an absolute bummer. We are very. optimistic hoping that that was not the. case. He's obviously going to miss all. of next year. Surgery already has been. done. We know from our sport, Achilles. is obviously a very fickle matter. It. takes a lot of rehab. It's a long time. to get that thing back to where it was. beforehand is going to be damn near. impossible. But to get it strong enough. to be able to be stable enough for him. to play 82 games and do basketball that. he does, he's going to miss all of next. year. The Celtics still, I think, uh,

they're favorites tonight, I believe, to. beat the Knicks. And I think the Celtics. still have what it takes to potentially. go on and win it all. Now, maybe the. Knicks punch their ticket to earn their. way to play against the Indiana Pacers. Sure. And obviously that's a throwback. rivalry that we all learned about last. year yet again and were reminded about. last year. You know, Reggie Miller, you. know, the entire Knicks, I think he. scored like nine points in like four. seconds or something like that to come. back and beat the Knicks. Pacers Knicks. has always been a good thing in. basketball. It's seemingly all the way.

back with what happened last year in the. playoffs. Now it could be an Eastern. Conference Finals matchup. And I got a. lot of Knicks fans tweeting me, we can't. wait to see you go Knicks, go Knicks. It's like you better, hey, there's a. champion up there. It's a wounded dog up. against the with their backs to the. wall. How do you feel about the Boston. Celtics taking on the Knicks this. evening? Uh feel good about tonight. The. Celtics are 8 and2 without Tatum this. year. So, it's not as if it's kind of. uncharted territory, if you will. Sam. Hower will be playing again, but you. know, just listen to what I'm saying. You know, Sam Hower will be playing. again. I'm not saying Jason Tatum is.

going to be back. Jaylen Brown kind of. uh a lot of people have a lot of faith. You know, $300 million man, time to go. earn that. Hey, this is my team. I can. still do this on my own. I think Pton. Pritchard could be hoisted into the. starting lineup, which I think everybody. would be very happy about. Actually, fun. fact, Pton Pritchard is the only game he. played more than 30 minutes was the game. we won. So maybe more Pritchard, maybe. some more points, maybe another win. perhaps. But again, you know, we're in. it for this. And when you watch the. Pacers play, especially last night, when.

you watch the Thunder and the Nuggets. play, but especially the Pacers because. that's who's in the Eastern Conference. Finals, they're just so good. you know, they were down by 20 points last night, and people aren't talking about that. There was a stat uh two of the largest. comebacks in closeout game uh history. for the playoffs. They have two of them. this year, the last series against the. Bucks, they were down 20. And then the. Pacers last night, they're down 19. against the Cavs. So, when you when you. talk about kind of rising to the moment, and and that's an easy spot to be in.

Hey, we're on the road. It's game five. Everybody's expecting us to win this. We're up 3-1. we can go home and play on. our home court, which they've only lost. once when Hallebertton's playing. I. think they're nine and one on at home. court with with Hallebertton playing. So, it's one of those things where, hey, let's just punt on this game. We've. actually seen it. The Cavs did it in. game four. Golden State did it, I. believe, whenever Steph got hurt. The. the Nuggets kind of did it uh in game. four as well in in the Pacers don't do.

that. Carile gets the boys going. So, it's awesome to see that. But when it. comes to the Celtics tonight, you know, game five, sure, I could see the Celtics. getting the job done. Again, they're a. three-point shooting team. It's not like. Tatum's only one shooting threes. They. all shoot threes. They get hot, who. knows what can happen. So, still have. faith in the boys. Still have faith in. Missoula, but it's definitely an uphill. climb back to the uh, you know, Larry. O'Brien title town. Yeah, he talked. about last night and obviously tonight. we'll watch that game. And if it is the. Knicks, that's exciting news for the. NBA. Pacers Knicks in the Eastern.

Conference Finals is a beautiful thing. Little old Indiana taking on obviously. New York. Both teams play similar. Both. teams kind of dogs and both teams like. to run. So it would be an exciting. Eastern Conference final. You talked. about last night uh Nuggets and Thunder. played. I passed out. The Nuggets were. up. Mhm. Because like it was the West. Coast, the Western Conference is tough. to stay up for. I'll be honest. It is. tough to stay up for. I passed out. Nuggets were up. Joker had I think 28. points whenever I passed out. Maybe he. was already up over 30 points by.

whatever the case was. And I saw. yesterday that like the most bet thing. on ESPN bet I think was Joker 25 plus. points because how everybody had been. talking about how Joker hadn't been. playing well. Hadn't been played well. Then down the stretch there were some. big time plays made by both teams. Obviously Joker would inevitably end up. hitting a crazy three to tie this thing. up and then SGA would answer on the. other side and then all it would take. down the stretch is a miss and then. somebody get on the foul line and then. another miss and the game's over. That. is why four quarters obviously 2 and 1/2.

3 hours whatever the case is if these. games are close and you talk about the. Pacers being down 20 at the very end. it's who makes shots late that that is. really the only thing doesn't matter how. much you've been behind does not matter. how much you were up in the game who's. going to make shots late SGA and the. boys cadet uh. Haren C yeah yeah and then Hardenstein. also had some big time plays down the. stretch and Joker obviously led the boys. for the Nuggets gave him everything he. possibly could have. But what a great. game and congrats to OKC uh being who.

they said they were all season basically. last night. Very easily Joker could have. stole that one. Looked like they were. going to and OKC with that crowd. I love. the strength shirts. I love how loud. their crowd is. I love how invested they. are. But them coming back and winning. that and watching this this morning, the. the recap of the final four minutes, it. was like OKC answered the bell every. single time. And I think that's the most. important part whenever we get to this. stage of the playoffs. Yeah. Lou Dort uh. because you you fell asleep and you know.

they were up the Nuggets were I think by. 11 at one point. Lou Dort had I think. three threes backto backto back to kind. of cut that lead down. And then SGA. towards the end of the game is just. unbelievable. Now when it comes to the. Nuggets going to need Russell Westbrook. and Watson and Michael Porter Jr. maybe. to hit a three every once in a while. because that is I don't know if that's. coming from Russ. So I I I I love. Russell Westbrook football. Basketball. football. Basketball. I I love his. effort. I love his energy. I don't think. these eyes right here was still pop.

blood vessel because going through. I. don't think these eyes and a bruise. Yeah. New bruises just popped up here on. my arm. Pretty big one too. I didn't. expect that to show up. You can see that. thing. This just kind of came out of. nowhere. That must have been a deep. bruise in there. It's just kind of. making it way to the surface now. It's a. contusion. Jeez Louise. That is a. contusion. Yeah, it is. I think Bruce say there might be some. real damage in there. It's like Yeah. Yeah, there is. It's bleeding. There's a. pool of blood on my bicep days later. Uh. so I don't think these guys though have.

seen Russell Westbrook make a three in. some time. But Joker and the boys will. send it out there and he's always wide. open. I think I know why he's always. wide open. But his confidence just to go. up and huck that thing, immaculate. Always. Part of the reason why I love. Russell Westbrook. But there was a time. during a run in the fourth quarter where. he gets ball three. He shoots that thing. out of bounds. I mean it ends up Yeah. It ends up going out of bounds. It's. like they do need to make if you can. make shots late, you win the game. Yeah. And I love what Russell Westbrook has.

done. I love him on that Nuggets team, but there's times where he has nothing. but space. I think he should just maybe. take a step in like maybe a couple steps. in and just maybe see if it's a little. bit easier there. But nonetheless, OKCUs. is who they said they were all season. And the Indiana Pacers are exactly who. we said they were all season. Joining us. now, ladies and gentlemen, young. superstar who has found himself in the. Eastern Conference Finals for the second. year in a row. Leader of this Indiana. Pacers team. Ladies and gentlemen, last.

night had 30 plus points. 31 I believe. Tyrese Hallebertton. Tyrese. Congrats, dude. I always appreciate the. intro. I always appreciate it. I don't. know who made this shirt if you're. associated with it, but it got sent to. the office like two days ago. So, I. figured I'd wear it just to show respect. to you and the Pacers because it feels. like everybody's been talking about you. and the team the same exact way. And I. saw you give the interview last night. after the game about outside noise. The. only thing that matters is how we. believe in there. You guys definitely.

use that as chips though, right? I mean, all 11 people that were predicting this. series had you guys lose it for ESPN. I. assume the same from TNT. Do you use. that? Does coach Carl bring that up? How. often do you guys chat about the. disrespect outside of maybe uh you and. the fan base? Oh, all the time. I think. it's uh it's all the time. We It's fuel. we use. I think we have a lot of guys. who have been overlooked at some point. in their career. Um you know, I think. the majority our starting lineup, you. look at it, Andrew Near is a second.

round pick. Aaron Nith gets traded and. they Bleacher Report puts out a meme of. calling him a paperclip when he gets. traded. Uh Miles Turner was in has been. in tread rumors his whole career. Um you. know, Pascal's, you know, started the. game late and, you know, has been a big. big uh big addition for us. And then we. got a lot of guys like that who can all. relate on that level. We've all been. overlooked at some some point. We just, you know, we use it as fuel to, you. know, try to do something special. Do. you think Kevin Pritchard's looking for. guys that are dogs? Like do you think.

that is your culture? Do you think you. guys have more dogs than most teams in. that in that locker room? Uh, I think he's looking for guys who. play the right way and are willing to. play our way. You know, I think we got a. lot of guys who just fit our style of. play. Um, you hear people talk about how. fast we play, how hard we play, and I. think that's a buyin from everybody. even our guys, you know, at the even our. two-way guys who, you know, aren't even. allowed to suit up right now, how hard. they're going, uh, in their workouts,

you know, even though they can't play. and helping us with scout team and all. that stuff is just it goes through our. whole organization. So, uh, definitely a. special group we're part of and, you. know, doing some special things right. now. Coach Carlile looks like Jim. Carrey. Uh, certainly certainly looks. like Jim Carrey. He's had success in. different places. He doesn't really get. too high ever. Really doesn't feel like. he's not too Last night his big thing. was we're eight games away, eight wins. away from NBA championship. He's like, "Congratulations, you've earned it. Uh, we're eight wins away now from an NBA. title. Pacers on three, one, two, three,

Pacers." That was basically like the. call up in the locker room for I don't. know if he's speaking before that. Then. when he talks to the media, it's the. same exact thing. It's like when you. guys are up 3-1, he didn't. He was like, "We don't care about being up 3-1. because Cavaliers don't care that we're. up 3-1." Is he always just he is uh just. always blinders on type guy? What is. coach Carlile like dayto-day for you. guys? Yeah, I think uh he is a very. super serious person. Uh I try to I try. to joke as much as I can to try to get. him to, you know, crack a smile or laugh.

from time to time. Uh during playoff. time, it's hard. You know, if I can get. him to smile or laugh during the. playoffs, it's pretty it's pretty. special moment for me. Something I. cherish. So, uh, you know, I know he's. he's the guy who always is setting the. tone with, you know, his sternness and. being serious and, you know, I feel like. it's it's kind of my job to, you know, I'm the point guard, so I got to kind of. be the coach on the floor to share that. messaging, but at the same time, you. know, keep keep everybody loose and. having fun. Let them know it's just.

basketball, so let's just go out there. and hoop. Yeah. I think you said that. whenever uh somebody was saying. something, you're like, "It's just. basketball. It's not that serious." And. then you just kind of kept it moving. But basketball is obviously something. that this city and this state love. I. mean they this is a basketball state. Before pay as you get a phone call from. coach Carlo saying keep my name out of. your [ __ ] mouth. Okay. Keep your name. out of my mouth coach. Carlo. Um but before Pton Manning got. here this was a racing and basketball. state. A racing in basketball city.

Obviously the Indy500 is here every. single year. The largest sporting event. on Earth. And all the indie cars are. based out of here. So the Indie drivers. are actually like famous here in. Indianapolis. The Pacers had obviously. been something that's been beloved and. the Indiana Hooers are beloved. So then. Payton comes in here and kind of turns. it around. But there's a time coming up. now where I think the Indy500's. happening during the day and then. there's an Eastern Conference Finals. game happening at night and I assume. that would be to the detriment of us. Every Indiana person I talked to like. that's the greatest day in the history.

double dip. That's the greatest day in. the history of Indiana. Let's talk about. you being back in the Eastern Conference. Finals. Coach Carlile has won a title. before with Dallas, so obviously he has. been there and he has seen it before and. he can obviously say those things. For. you getting a chance to experience the. Eastern Conference Finals last year and. then getting a chance to do it again. What have you guys learned? Are you like. a more mature team, you think, from all. the experiences from last year or does. that not really matter? You just kind of. got to focus on today. Yeah. No, I think. uh we've grown a lot over the last year. Um you know, I think last year we were.

just happy to be in the playoffs. Like. honestly, it was just like playing with. house money at that point. Uh you we. were just happy to be there. And I think. this year we came into the year with. real uh internal expectations uh to get. back to here and you know beyond and win. a championship. That's been our goal all. year and you know we're eight games. eight wins away uh from doing that. But. we know we know there's a lot of work in. front of us. But um you know I after we. won yesterday I'm sitting in the locker. room just kind of you know letting it. like feeling it you know because I don't.

want to take winning for granted you. know that's something that I've heard a. lot from my vets in my time in the. league is don't take it for granted you. know it's special stuff happening and. you know a couple years ago I was at the. draft lottery representing the Pacers. and I was sitting there I was like. steaming I was like I do not want to be. here right now you know so the fact that. the lottery happened the other day and. it just so happened to be on on TV. You. know, I didn't even know it was. happening that day. Um, that's pretty. that's a pretty cool feeling. Something. I don't want to take for granted. Last.

year, you know, I got hurt after, you. know, in the middle in game two. So, um, you know, I'm just excited to, you know, be in the Eastern Conference Finals and. get the chance to, you know, get to. play, you know, cuz last year getting. hurt in game two was frustrating. So, I'm looking forward to, uh, you know, hopefully having a, you know, healthy. series and being able to, you know, compete. Yeah. You're only going to get. a chance to win so many playoff series. You know, they only come so many. So, you got to enjoy those moments wherever. they come. And also, nobody's going to. remember it if you don't win the next. series. So, if you don't enjoy that. moment right there, you potentially miss.

it all. Like last year, nobody really. got to enjoy the Pacers season in the. miraculous playoff run because of how it. ended legitimately. And then right into. the Olympics, then we're right into the. season. It's like nobody really took in. how awesome of a run last year was. I'm. happy to hear you have a little bit more. presence about you to enjoy the good. times because who knows if they're ever. going to come again. They will. hopefully. You never know what's going. to take. But let's talk about that. series a little bit. Ty has a question. for you, Tyrese. Yeah, Tyrese, there was. a stat going around last night that said. the Cavs are 0 and5 against you guys at.

home this year and 36 and5 against. everyone else in the NBA. And Pat. mentioned it before he came on about. how, you know, I know you guys don't. give a [ __ ] about it, but ESPN, all the. NBA analysts, you know, no one picked. you guys to win and all that kind of. stuff. Why do you think you had the Cavs. number and and what is it um about like. you guys as a team that matched up so. well with them? Cuz coming in, you know, everyone was talking about how good the. Cavs were all season and and no one.

really, you know, except maybe with the. exception of a few people and you guys. in the locker room expected you guys to. win the series. Yeah. I don't know if it. was necessarily like we have their. number, we have them super figured out. or anything. They're a hell of a team. and they uh they do so many things so. well. Uh but I think that our focus was. just coming in and being us, you know, playing Pacers basketball. We don't. really I feel like that's the most. important thing every series is just. being who we are. So, you know, no. matter how teams guard us, we're going.

to run, get up and down, dictate the. pace, and then defensively, if we can. get enough stops to get to be able to. play in transition even more, I think. that really plays our uh our favor. So, I thought we did a great job of getting. stops, getting out and running. You. know, the only game we lost this series, they dictated the pace. They dictated. the physicality. Um, and you know, that. was a recipe for disaster for us in game. three. And I thought we did a great job. responding in game four by getting. stops. You know, they had what, 39. points at halftime. Uh, we had a hell of.

a shotmaking game that game. You know, definitely uh big hoop. Yeah. Yeah. Big. hoop that night. Uh but I feel like a. lot of it was we were getting stops. getting out transition and then. obviously playing in gamebridge uh with. the crowd behind us, you know, the rim. just it felt like you throw it in the. ocean, you know. So um I think I think. the big biggest part for us was just. oh this is it. This is ESPN. Yeah. Yep. [ __ ] Yeah. He just froze Tyrese because. we're talking too much about the Pacers. We knew that. I'm not going to say it's. Adam Silver because I think Adam Silver.

likes Tyrese for sure. I think he likes. the Pacers and Indiana. Yeah. But this. is definitely the networks, you know, being like, "Yeah, these guys, we don't. need anybody liking this guy." We don't. need anybody liking this guy. I did see. people tweeting last night, uh, not an. NBA fan, but I have adopted the Pacers. because of our show and because of. Tyrese and everything like that. I also. saw some Pacers fans saying, uh, you. should get some of the other guys on the. show. Would love to. Miles Turner is a. dog. TJ McConnell, we've been trying to. for legit two years. Yeah, we've been. trying. You know, he's been on team.

since like he's been on team like five. years. That's not true. I didn't think. so. So they were complaining. They were. complaining. No, they weren't. complaining. They were like, "Continue. to showca." They wanted us to continue. to showcase this Pacers team because. nobody really talks about joining us. again, ladies and gentlemen. Tyresese. Hallebertton. You were talking about uh. game four where you were able to respond. after. Yeah, that was the network. shutting you down, brother. They didn't. want you to be too liked. They didn't. want you cuz you were speaking to three. different voices there. They didn't want. any of them to be liked. I think you did. catch a different one. Yeah. Yeah. A. mixture of the two. Yeah. Yeah. It's.

like, you know, and then what's that? uh. graph ven diagram the ven diagram you. got the the one over here then you got. the other over here and then every once. in a while those things uh you know like. good tag team wrestling they come. together and they're putting they teach. you that they didn't teach you that in. West Virginia no well I didn't I learned. a lot of West Virginia tag team. wrestling I learned a lot I learned a. lot of West Virginia not tag team. wrestling I'm talking more about the ven. diagram but okay you saw me draw it. brother okay I might not be able to read. the music but I can certainly play it. shout out to you know Nick Cannon that.

entire thing but like whenever you know. uh You have those voices. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You just Yeah. Great movie. Drum line. Drum line. Hell of a movie. I. didn't like, you know, and I don't know. what the head guy is named in that. entire world or whatever. The b the. coach, the boss, whatever. The head of. the P1. Yeah. I appreciate him kind of, you know, laying laying it all the good. coaching and everything. But when push. comes to shove, the [ __ ] guy had it, you know, like let's not be worrying. about the little things. Let's worry. That's why they shooting them up for the. biggest game. Bingo. And they had to.

And they knew they had to because when. he Yeah. Well, yeah. There was a. momenture. Yeah. One band, one sound, but that guy has a different sound. He. does. Yeah. Maybe you can't read the. music because they weren't able to keep. up with him. Nonetheless, you said in. game four uh you guys were able to. dictate the tempo and control it. And. that's kind of how you guys play. That. is when you were at your best. And you. talked about that game three where. Cleveland kind of did that uh to you. guys and won by 40 or whatever the case. was. I'm really happy that we didn't. have a show the next day. Like uh that.

was. Yeah, that happened on a Friday, you. know, so we get away from that. Go. My. focus was backlash, you know, after. after that game. You know, let's not do. this too much. I'm getting PTSD. Yeah. My fault. My fault. My focus was on backlash after uh after. that. I don't even know we had a game. three. Just on to the next one, you. know. Yeah. Yeah. Well, or media in game. three. Yeah. And also media or media. Uh I don't know if that was your. decision or if it was Steve decision. Nonetheless, love that we are moving on.

to the Eastern Conference Finals. You. talk about that game three where you. lose by that massive amount. One guy had. 40 points in that game and he was. spectacular to watch. Con man has a. question for you. Tyrese. Yeah, Tyrese, first of all, thank you for calling. yesterday and checking in on me after. the Tatum news. That was very nice. You. said you said a prayer immediately. That. was a that was a classy move. Class A, if you will. Uh but Donovan Mitchell, Pat mentioned it. He was unbelievable uh. when he was playing for the series. Obviously, he was banged up, too. You. guys had a little moment after the game. You were covering your mouth as you were.

talking to him, so the lip readers. couldn't really decipher what you were. saying. What was that conversation like? Was it something along the lines of, "Hey, Cleveland's not that far from. Indianapolis. You come and team up with. us, we could really run this [ __ ] next. year again, or what was that?" Would be. a great Pacer. Would be great. Would be. a great It feels like he has everything. That would be a great pacer. Already in. the Midwest, he played for Utah, so we. know what that's like. So, you come to. Indie, he he would love it. But what. what was that? Uh what's that? They are. very We have more black people in Utah.

No, I'm. talking that's not what we were talking. about. My fault. He's from Boston. I get it. That's what. your immediate. thought. But no, not not at all. I. completely disagree strongly. But what. was that back and forth like? And where. where did you guys kind of leave it? Did. you talk to him after the game or was it. just on the court there? Uh just on the. floor there. Um I've gotten to know him. over the last couple years uh through.

CIA. We have the same agency. Uh our. marketing agents are really good. friends. So uh me and Don have got to. know each other pretty well. Um just I. think it was just a show of respect. I. think I got a lot of love for Don. Obviously you guys saw when the crowd. was trying to get on me there and uh was. at game two and he was quieting down the. crowd when they were chanting overrated. at me. Um yeah, I just wanted to share. with them that I couldn't tell him at. that moment or you know during the. series, but it meant a lot to me, you. know, cuz uh definitely a peer of mine.

that I have a lot of respect for and um. you know, he had a hell of a series. He's an unbelievable player. So, uh just. a show of respect there and a guy that I. know um that I'll see a lot throughout. my career, you know, being in the same. division, same conference. And so, just. love competing against that guy. Great. dude, great competitor. Uh and it was a. lot of fun. He gets a lot of heat, too. I tweeted uh I tweeted about it was fun. to watch him. Like it was unbelievable. to watch this guy this series. I don't. get to watch as many Cavs game because. just like you guys they don't get a lot. of respect in the national prime time uh.

kind of slots throughout the season. And. then all anybody responded was like free. throw merchant. This guy's [ __ ]. It's like what are we watching the same. are we watching the same guy? He gets a. lot of heat too. Why do you think guys. like you guys like him maybe don't get. as much respect? You think it's smaller. market stuff? I mean, it's not even that though. It's. like I think it's just sometimes there. are just miserable sports fans in every. sport. True. You know, there's just. people in every sport who like my if my.

team's not doing well, I got to talk. negative about somebody else. Or, hey, he's doing well against my team. I got. to talk negative about him. Like, that's. just how sports and competition work. I. mean, we all everybody has critics. You. have critics, you know, on your show. I. have critics in what I do. Jesus had. critics. We all got critics. So, like. Amen. Jesus did, didn't he? A lot of. critics still does. More than most. So, you know, it's all it's all part of it. Could you imagine if there was social. media when Jesus was doing his stuff? Oh. my gosh. The amount of his mentions. Mhm.

They'd be ridiculous. He he'd turn all. the water into wine. You know how many. retweets that would have got at a. wedding? Just like, oh my god, you're. right. Cuz we see O's the mentalist like. predict a number or something like that. I couldn't even imagine what Jesus's. content would be like. Jesus, we're out. of We're out of wine. What do we do? What about the bread? He did something. with bread, too. Yeah. Yeah. Basically. took like three fish and three loaves of. breads and was like, "This isn't going. to feed anybody. How about I boom, make. it into 500 fish and 500 loaves." Oh my. god. Retweet. Retweet. Retweet. I mean,

that would Oh [ __ ] A lot of people. would be I saw I saw him pause it and. put all those fish in prison. Yeah. Bingo. That would be the the opposite. side would be I don't believe the water. I mean the walking. Yeah. Walking up. Yeah. Jeez. People would think there was. glass underneath something. Oh, he's on. uh one of one of those uh the You see. the strings holding him up. You can see. the the wire. This is why Chris Angel's. the hate he gets is [ __ ] He doesn't. get hate. Please, I don't think we. should be putting Chris Angel directly. in the Jesus Christ conversation. Oh,

really? Angel. Okay. Is that right? I'm. saying for Chris Angel, who we are a fan. of, I don't think this is the right time. to insert him into this convo. But with. that being said, what is the sandbar? That's like whatever the That's what. people would say. You see the sand bar? He's walking on it the whole way. Yeah. And that's why, you know, that's why. people say, uh, I could walk on water. and people say it's because I can't. swim. You need to just keep going, Tyrese. Don't listen to any of these. people. You know, I will say though, you. shooting. threes, you're a much better three-point.

shooter than anybody gives you credit. for, I think. And what? Like, do you. agree? Have you always been this way or. have you worked on that? cuz I feel like. for point guard that is a great weapon. to have especially because how much you. got to move and then obviously drive, dish, pass, get the ball back. Feels. like being able to dribble, being able. to pass and being able to shoot a three. are like the three most important things. for a point guard. Have you had to work. on your three or is it always been. there? Yeah, I mean I have to work on it. every day. Uh I mean coming into last.

night I had been shooting the ball awful. all playoff from three. So, you know, good to see a couple go down and uh that. second quarter, you know, the game had a. chance to get ugly there and, you know, I saw the first one go in, they just. they just felt good from there and uh. you know, guys kept finding me open. So, just trying to, you know, make the right. play. But, um yeah, I mean, I feel like. I I've shot over 40%, you know, for the. majority of of my career going back to. college and high school. So, uh you. know, I just continue to do what I do.

It's not the prettiest. It's not the. prettiest, you know, but That's that's. that's How did you get there, do you. think? How how do you just were always. shoot like that where you No, like if. you if you if you find clips of me from. like early in high school, I used to. have to catch the ball, dip it to my. hip, then raise it back and shoot it. And then I met this coach, Coach B, who. was my my AU coach all um freshman year, all throughout high school, now you. know, runs my AU program. He used to. have me do the mic and drill every day. I don't know if you guys know what that.

is, but like you shoot layups. You shoot. layups on both sides. You grab the. rebound, you shoot it. Grab the rebound. and shoot it. And the way most people. teach it, you grab the rebound, you dip. the ball, you shoot it, right? And you. dip it. And that's just not human. nature. But for me, he used he used to. put his arm out like in my stomach and. if I dip the ball, he would just smack. it and get like make me go like kick it. across the gym. I have to go pick it up. So like now that he would force me to. keep it above my shoulders and then that. force that I feel like now if somebody.

gives me a pass high I don't have to dip. it um you know and that allows me to get. it off u more efficiently. But yeah I. used to have a ugly ugly like hitch and. dip to it. But you know it it all comes. it all comes with some work. Yeah. But. if it falls who cares and I think that. has been the that's kind of been the. emmo of the NBA for a long time. A lot. of different styles. Obviously, you got. like the perfect form, guys. And then. there's the uh Amari, maybe Shawn. Marion. Shawn Marion. Yeah. Had like. Yeah, it was just absurd. But if it was.

falling, who cares? I also saw Cat. Williams. Did you see him with Lethal. Shooter? No, he didn't miss. He's chess. passing that thing and it's splash. splash. Cat Williams might be Hold on. Yeah, he might be looking for a 12 day. or whatever it is you guys have. Uh call. it a 10day. It's 10day, brother. I think. it should be 12 though for Cat because. uh Cat is an absolute dog. You guys will. want him in the room. I think you guys. will want him in there. He's been. working um with Lethal Shooter. Okay, so. let's look ahead the Eastern Conference. Finals. You're going to watch alongside.

all of us. I assume Celtics Nicks. Celtics certainly have enough to get the. job done. I think they are the champions. for a reason. Losing Tatum to an. Achilles not only for this playoff run, but all of next year sucks. The abs. Hey. Connor, we want to let you and all. Celtics fans know just like Tyrese said. yesterday to you. Sucks. Sucks for the. game. Sucks for the Celtics. Sucks all. all together. You would I think you said. something to Connor, but would you like. to say something about the Tatum thing? You're obviously a big fan of his. That. sucks though. Yeah, obviously. Uh, man,

sucks to see. He was really hoping, playing really well, and uh yeah, I. think it's I mean, I think everybody in. the in the basketball world just hates. to see that happen. You know, he's had a. hell of a year. um you know, he's been. such a staple for the Celtics. organization, for the league, and so. hate to see that happen, but you know, uh prayers up for him and uh feel like, you know, he got surgery already and you. know, he's going to heal and come back. to be the the the same guy he is. hopefully. So, um yeah, man, hate to see. that happen. That sucks. It absolutely.

sucks for all of basketball, especially. with the reigning champs. But I still. think have enough. But I saw a lot of. Knicks fans showing up in my comments. last night basically saying they're. waiting on us. The world is. Tone has a. question for you. Yeah, Tyrese, let's. let's just say, you know, the Knicks are. the favorites to move on and play you. guys in the Eastern Conference Finals. I. don't know if you know anything about. long-term storytelling. Uh we do over. here. Um and so does the WWE. And they. predicted the Eastern Conference Finals. right.

here. Boom. Oh, wait a minute, Wayne. Shoot him off. We might need to get some. security out here in a work. No, it's. not. That's for shoot. Um, how do you. feel about instead of doing a jump ball. to start the game, a no holes bar New. York style city street fight uh to. decide who gets ball first or just a. lock up or lock up or just a lock up, you know, maybe just lock up. I think. that might be a I think that might be a. time where, you know, I uh might fake an. injury and they got to find a.

replacement and James Johnson comes out. to to represent the Indiana Pacers. So, uh I think I think that's where we're. that's probably where we'll have to go. if that's if that's the case. But Lo. Logan texted me last night after the. game and I was like, "Man, sorry to do. it sorry to do that to your city." Uh. and he was like, "Man, this is crazy. You got you and Jaylen were with us in. the garden." And I was like, "Yeah, let. me know if you want to come to a game.". So, see if Logan or uh Logan or uh Mr. H. would like to come to a game here in. Indiana. They got an open invite. I got.

seats courtside cuz you know Pop still. ain't coming to the game. So, they're. more than more than welcome to to to to. come to come join and and uh keep the. storytelling going. I hope we get a. chance to see them here in Indianapolis. Obviously, they would be welcome. Mr. H. has a thousand things going on. So does. Logan Paul, but I think they should at. least take a victory lap on what, you. know, they potentially had come. together. You just brought up your dad. How's he been through this entire thing? Is he starting to enjoy watching it away. from the arena or is he yearning to get. back in there so he can let the people. know? I think he's uh I think he's.

enjoying watching it from the house. Um. you know, he watched it. They had a. little watch party at my house last. night. Him and my mom and and Jade and. over here at the crib. Um I called him. after the game and the whole locker I I. have a video I can send you. Uh the. whole locker room was got on the phone. with them. Everybody was like free pops. to us backwards, you know. So, um, you know, the the league left the. league left it open. They said. foreseeable future. So, we don't know. what the foreseeable future really I. don't know what that means. So, we'll.

see what what ends up happening. Uh, but. yeah, I'm sure he would love to get back. in the building. I'm sure he would get a. uh he would probably get an ovation if. he not just probably. Yeah, they should. they should at that point with I think. at that point with the whole with the. whole WWE thing, I think he needs to. they need to like stone cold glass. shatter Pops walks through the tunnel. That would be that'd be pretty throws up. the tip. And he would live up for the. moment. He would live up to the moment, too. I mean, let's not get it twisted.

here. Pops don't get him started. Yeah, he he's already he's got a plan already. if he's coming. Maybe a t-shirt gun, you. know, with free Pops shirts in there. Pang pow. the boys. Maybe him and Mr. Maybe him and Mr. Mr. Ace could come out. to to DX. Are you ready? [Applause]. That'd be kind of sick. And then your. dad just comes out. Where's Adam Silver. at? Goes right up to Adam Silver. That. would be that'd be awesome. All right,

last thing for me. LeBron put out a. tweet about you. You talked about. LeBron. He talked about you uh after the. Olympic experience. Obviously, you're a. young lad on that Olympic team. They're. expecting you to be come if not be the. next like leader of team United States. of America and maybe you win four gold. medals in this. There's chance with how. young you are in the entirety. But I. think you built up a relationship with a. lot of guys on that team. LeBron being. one of them. There's a photo of you two. flexing your gold medals at the end. But. that last sentence there, uh, that boy.

nice, very complimentary. Uh, your dad. read that and was like, "Thank you. I. agree." And even more someone everyone. would love to play with. Do you get a. sense about that as a point guard that. that's a big deal? Because like you talk. about being a coach on the field in our. world, you're also like the quarterback. out there and it feels like the point. guard has to be wellliked by his. teammates. I feel like the point guard. has to be look out for his teammates. before he looks out for himself. Is that. kind of your mindset? Do you think. you're like a throwback style point. guard, which is why maybe LeBron and the.

other boys enjoy your style of play? Uh, I just feel like I'm maybe part of a. maybe a little bit of a dying breed in. our league. Uh, I feel like I'm, you. know, a true pass first point guard, you. know. I feel like that's not uh as. common these days. Um, but I just try to. play the game the right way, man. Try. to, you know, I want to play the right. way and I want to win. That's the most. important thing for me. Uh, so um I'm. sure it's easy said people would want to. play with me. Yeah. If we're if we're.

winning, I'm sure people would love to. play uh alongside alongside me. Um, but. I think our group, just a group, our. group in general, I think we have a. group that people enjoy to watch, people. enjoy to cheer for. I think that's why. we got, you know, our fans here in. Indiana love getting behind this group. And um, you know, we're getting people. like like you out out of uh, you know, used to the Pacers kind of kept at arms. distance, but we're bringing you back. in. You know, you're back in. And that's. happening with a lot of people out. there, and that's that's cool to see.

And um, yeah, the Braun thing was super. super cool. We texted back and forth. last night. Um, you know, there's got a. lot I've grown a lot of cool. relationships, you know, from from that. Olympic experience and, uh, it's been, uh, it's been really cool. But, yeah, we're not done. We still got a lot to. go. Okay. Let LeBron know next time you. text him. We appreciate the hell out of. him for the LeBron conversation. Conversation conversation. I'll make. sure I let him know. Yeah, please. I've. not talked to him since then, but please. let him know. So, I've tried to say it. publicly, so maybe it'll make way to. him. We are very thankful for the LeBron.

conversation and we are still all very. amazed with how [ __ ] big he is. He is. you all are so big. Like I watched that. clip. I don't know if you saw it. earlier. We ran the clip from the. Smackdown before Rumble when you came. out with me and Michael Cole and it's. like I am clearly you know and you're. nowhere near the tallest guy on the. court. You look at look how big you are. Look at just look how tall you are. I. don't want to call you like abnormal but. you get it. NBA guys uh are a special. special type of athlete and uh what you.

and the Pacers are doing has been. nothing short of magical here in this. city. We appreciate the hell out of it. Enjoy your day. Tell the family. Tell. Jade we said what's up and uh thank you. for making time. Yeah, appreciate you. guys. Pat, all I know is you better come. to our Conference Finals game. Okay, that's all I know. Yeah. Yeah. Got. nothing but time. Nothing. No, no, no. No. Yeah. Yeah. No got nothing but time. You better be at the game. It's race. day, man. I I Yeah. Game three is. patients and racers. Race in the. morning. Yeah. You can make game three.

happen. You can't make game three. happen. You can make game. Yeah. Of. course. Of course. I'm loud in my house. when I'm watching these games. Oh god. I. got my legs kicked up. Yeah. It's really. nice. It is. No. No. No more legs kicked. up. Court. You need to be court. I got. you. I got you. You guys won't let me. Oh, you got it. We don't We don't rev it. up anymore. We don't rev it up anymore. Okay. That's what we learned from last. year. That's what we learned from last. year's playoff run. Got it. Got it. Yes. But we could give you a mic and let you, you know, do your promo. You know, Stephanie McMahon, Stephanie's Place.

says she learned promos from you. We. could, you know, you get your promo off. right there. Hey, that was a pretty good. episode, wasn't it? That That was a. great episode. Yeah, great episode. I. watched it. I was like, man, you guys. were like really nice to me. That never. happened. Yeah, normally whenever I take. my time to talk to somebody uh and. they're either writing something or. creating something, it's just a burial. of me and it's like, "Oh, I'm happy I. spent my time uh doing that with you. I. didn't know that was an angle that you. could even take from what we talked. about." They were very kind to me. Stephanie is very cool to me and I think.

it told the story well of how much. wrestling can do and how much wrestling. can, you know, help folks. And I think. you're one of the people that believe. the same thing as do we. And uh I can't. wait to watch you do your thing in the. ECF, brother. Good luck the rest of the. way. Yeah, appreciate it, bro. Appreciate it, guys. You're the man. Ladies and gentlemen, Tyrese Hallebert. Tyrese, perfect superstar. Yeah, especially for. Indiana. Absolutely. But if he was even. in a big city, I think. Oh, it'd be. especially with the [ __ ] he does and the. way he plays. Yeah, cuz he's kind of a.

nerd, you know? He has nerdy qualities. about him. I think he said something. about katan. Katan. Katan. Katan. Yeah. He said, "I never played chess before, but like I think I've played Katon, which I think is like a similar thing or. whatever." Well, loves wrestling as do. we. So, I'm not saying like that's. nerdy, but like a lot of the things he's. interested in. Yeah. I went to Iowa. State. No, that's that's part of it. That's. part of it. That is not That's an Iowa. grad. They're talking about that. But. it's like loves video. Like everything. about him is like maybe more relatable.

than any NBA superstar that I've ever. encountered. But then on the court, dog. Yes. Like absolute dog on the court. and. he he wants his team to do what? Point. guard. Like that is literally what he. want. It's uh it's been perfect for him. here in Indie. Well, that's why some of. these small market teams like we talk. about how the the NBA doesn't see a lot. of fans don't see teams like Indiana. because they're small market, but now. these small market teams have massive. stars like Halle Burton. Uh, I mean. Minnesota with Annne Edwards, Oklahoma. City with SGAA, like four of the last,

you know, four teams possibly will or. three of the last four teams possibly. will have these smaller markets. But was. Denver, what's Denver considered small? I think they're small, but because they. just won a title a few years ago, they've been on a much bigger um market. because the yogurt, they're bigger than. the other ones. Three MVPs. Yeah. I. mean, Colorado, they went on that run. where the ABS won a title. the, you. know, the freaking Nuggets won a title. and all those things. So, they're. getting bigger. Yeah, I think so. Basketball's in a good spot. A lot of.

young superstars. Yeah, Brunson. If it. is Brunson and Tyrese, that's Yeah. Here. we go, brother. Cinema is about to take. place. Absolutely. We will be off. tomorrow and Friday because the PGA. Championship is being covered by ESPN. Obviously, this is massive in the golf. world. All the mega stars will be. golfing at Quail Hollow. Joining us now. is a man who is a meastar. Ladies and. gentlemen, ESPN's Southern Hospitality, Marty Smith. Cory, how you doing, gentlemen? How are we.

doing this fine day? I look like. Skeletor in this overhead sunlight out. here at beautiful Quail Hollow. Yeah, I. think it means we're out here. We're. What do you think about this view, Patty? That's not bad. Where we at? We're at the driving range right now. Everybody's getting warmed up, getting. loose for the day. Yep. We're out here. at the driving range. And uh I just had. a great conversation with Rory Mroy who. of course along with Scotty Sheffller. are your betting favorites this weekend. here in the PGA Championship. And for.

Rory with with great reason uh won the. players championship already finally won. the Masters tournament and and thereby. the career grand slam along with it. And. I've known him a long time. I've rarely. I don't know if I've ever seen him this. emotionally free as a result of that. victory. I was just talking with with. Rory and his caddy about winning Augusta. and he said earlier today that he won't. watch it anymore on TV. He won't go back.

and watch the footage of that victory at. Augusta because he wants to remember it. the way he lived it in the film strip of. his mind. And I just think that's. fantastic. Yeah, I think so too. Especially cuz you could see the weight, you know, kind of leaving his body. You. talk about him being mentally free. We. saw the moment where it all happened. And uh if Rory can get back to what we. thought Rory was going to be what, like. five, six years ago, I mean, absolute. weapon. Scotty Sheffller, though, you. talk about uh the favorites for this. weekend, favorites for any golf. tournament. This guy's just a different.

animal whenever it comes to golfing. What is Scotty Sheffller's vibe like? And is this a course you think that. Scotty Sheffller is gonna do well on? Not that Scotty Sheffller has any weak. courses, but is this a course that. Scotty Sheffller should be able to slice. and dice? Absolutely. To your point, there is no weakness. The guy does. everything well. And on top of that, Pat, going back to the emotion of of the. lives these guys live. Scotty Sheffler. is the most unaffected number one player.

in the world, elite athlete, global icon. that you'll ever meet. The guy just. doesn't define himself based on his. sport. He defines himself based on the. husband he is and the father he is. And. he's a man of faith. He lets those. things define him, not the game at which. he's the best in the world. And so I. admire that. I know a lot of other. people do. But certainly the way that he. strikes the golf ball, uh the respect he. has out here, he's going to be. formidable. And as good as Rory's been.

playing, Scotty is the favorite. Let me. let me just take you guys on a little. walk. Yeah, please. Where are we? So, we're at the driving range where. everybody's warming up. Wednesdays are. normally like proam or is this practice. day? We're It is a practice day. We've. had terrible weather here in Charlotte, but I wanted to show you guys something. and hopefully our boy Tyrese. Hallebertton is still watching. Oh, wow. Look at that be right there. America, what's up, buddy? That is the. Larry O'Brien trophy that Tyrese and his. boys are chasing after along with many.

other elite players. Isn't that cool? Ain't that cool? They gave me a nice. little lapel pin. I feel official. Thank. you guys for that. Our great friends at. the NBA. Hey, let's get that thing to. Indiana here in a couple weeks, you. know. Let's get that thing to Indiana. Down the range here. And then I got to. be a little muted. This is golf. Okay. Yeah, it is. I'm going to be a little. muted. Okay, check this out. Here's our. boy Max. Okay, Homer's got a good swing. Let's judge this thing. Brand of the. show. Let's just watch this for a. second. Oh, good swing. Casual in. shorts. He likes it. Hopefully that.

shot's good. Okay, there we go. smaller. calves. They're in shorts. Are we. allowed to wear shorts out there, Marty? We're allowed to wear shorts. Where did. he go? Oh, there he is. Yeah, they can. wear shorts out here, but uh during. practice, right? Good nose shot by. Marty. Marty there. We're seeing right. up your nose. I like the view of I'm. trying. Oh, can you see my nose hair? My. bad. Yeah. No, you trimmed it. It's very. properly trimmed. Maxoma. Oh, he likes it. Hey, that's a good. That's a good motion there. Absolutely. pure. Just pure voice. Man, he's Palmer.

Go down here. Maybe we can maybe we can. say there's there's Nick Dunlap. He's. roll tied. Hey, roll tide. Roll tide. Roll tide. Great resilience at Augusta. Shot 90 on. the first day. Did not withdraw. Did not. quit and came out and finished. I love. that. We should talk to Keith Mitchell. Okay. Keith Mitchell's Go Dogs. Go Dogs. He's one of the great He's one of the. all-time great Americans. Keith. Mitchell. Hey, Go Dogs. You're on TV. right now. Go Dogs. Go Dogs. You're dog.

Hey, how do we feel? How do we feel? How. do How's the ball coming off the club? It's good. We're trying to hit our. numbers here, but you know, I got a man. in a suit and tie over here talking to. me, so it's a little tough. What do you. think about my pants? I think they're. very Charlotte. Oh jeez. How the hell. are you guys supposed to golf with those. pants, Marty? Jeez Louise. We just. turned on the neon lights. Give us a. quick preview of the tournament. Yeah. What's the course What's the course like. playing? What's the course playing like? It's It's sloppy. It's uh I mean, I mean. that because of the rain. It's in.

perfect condition. It's just soaking wet. out there. But they have this system. under the greens that sucks all the. water out and it's playing firm and the. greens are firm and fast and the. fairways are are soaking wet and slow. So, what's that mean? Whoever can hit. it, that means you have to hit it really. far and really high. Oh, cuz then it's. Yes. Got it. And do you know what do you. know what Cashmir Keith Mitchell leans. on when he has to hit it really far and. really high? What's that? The greatest. chest hair on the PGA tour. Thank you, sir. Appreciate you. I mean that that man that man has some.

meat sauce I've ever seen. He just lets. it go. I thought there was some golf. analysis coming. Oh, this guy has the. best seven iron maybe. Like I thought it. was coming. No, Patty. No, sir. Hey, really. It's really all about the chest. hair. Before we interrupt, somebody else. has driving range, which is awesome. We. need to do this every single tournament. with you, Marty. This is fantastic. I. just learned a lot there. Sloppy. fairways, hard greens. They got a drying. system underneath that. Everything else. is potentially going to be a little. thick. I don't know who that benefits, but I'm going to bet on the guy with. some chest hair. Now, there's another. person on the favorites list there from.

the ESPN bet. Uh Tone Diggs has a. question for you, Marty. Yeah, Marty, when we were looking at the favorites. there, obviously Bryson Dshambo from Liv. is up there plus 800. It feels like he's. the only one from Liv that we can kind. of trust right now to go out every major. tournament and put and put out and show. up. Like, what's going on with Rombo and. Brooks Kepka? Obviously Rahm's up there. at plus 2,000, but it feels like those. two in the last couple years, you can't. really rely on them. What's going on. with the the rest of the live and. obviously you know those top two? Well,

first with with Bryson, you're so right. Uh he is so well prepared every time we. come to major championships. Of course, won the US Open last year at Pinehurst, outlasting Rory Maroy. But it is. interesting with with Brooks, who's one. of the greatest major champions there's. ever been. and you know that when we're. on these stages, he's going to be there, but it has been a struggle uh since he. won the PGA Championship a couple years. ago. Uh and and Dustin Johnson, you. know, he's a major champion multiple.

times over. Where has he been? Rombo, a. Mast's champion, a multiple major. champion. Where has he been? A lot of. people will tell you it's because Liv. doesn't have the same intensity or. require the same focus that the PGA Tour. does. those guys will scoff at that, but. that is most certainly a narrative out. here that because those guys got all of. that money that that they've gotten. complacent. Uh they don't they don't. believe that. And certainly Brooks, and. I will tell you, uh having known him.

pretty well for a long time and someone. that I consider a friend, I think that. he is incredibly focused this weekend to. go fly the bird at that narrative. Okay. I like to hear that because Brooks. hunting in the weekend is just looks so. cool. Mhm. Everything just looks so cool. when Brooks is around in Rombo. To. Digs's point, I mean, he was about to. take over golf. Oh, yeah. Little. three/4er swing. We learned a story. about his his birth uh foot. I think he. had like club foot or whatever, which is. reason why his swing is the way it is.

We loved old Rombo. And I I didn't blame. him for getting 150 million. But when. you're sleeping on satin sheets, Marty, they say sometimes it's hard to want to. wake up and get punched in the face. You. know, it gets a little bit of a. different different animal in that. entire thing. And I think that 150. million number is a little bit a. conservative estimate there. I think it I think that number was. fatter than that, sir. I think his. wallet is much fatter than that. Double. Well, maybe uh maybe at some point you. get past the honeymoon phase of like, wow, I am ridiculously wealthy and uh.

get back to playing great golf. You look. man, they're competitors. Yes, they are. They are down in here. They are. competitors and they desperately on. these stages when they're back aligned. with the PGA Tour at major. championships, they want to prove it. Yeah. And I'm I can guarantee you that. any narrative that they aren't as. prepared as they once were pisses them. off. Yeah. And so we'll see how they. respond to that. to your point, it. hasn't been there hasn't been a whole.

lot of competitiveness from Liv other. than Bryson Bryson in recent recent. years, but uh all of those guys are. really good. Really good. And I would. love to see one of those guys in. contention here on Sunday evening. All. right, Marty, beautiful Charlotte, North. Carolina. We have a heart out in two. minutes. Real quick, the PGA. Championship has uh Scotty, Rory, and. Xander golfing together for the first. two rounds. You talk about everybody. being competitors. How do Who do you. think this best? Do you think this helps.

all three? Do you think like I do? Yeah. Okay, go ahead. I do think it helps all. three because when you're sitting there. and witnessing firsthand, you don't have. to look up at a leaderboard to see who's. doing what. These are three of the best. players in the world and have been for. many years now. Of course, Xander won. two major championships last year. Rory. just won the Masters and Scotty's the. best player in the world. So, they're. going to be in a position where they're. seeing real time for a couple days what. the best in the world are doing out here. at Quail Hollow. And I think that they.

all three will uh ratchet up their game. to another level. Now, Xander, of. course, he's been battling a little bit. of an injury. It's been a little bit of. an inconsistent year so far, but he's. been he he he's been fantastic in major. championships the past couple years. It's going to be that that that that. grouping is just going to be fascinating. to watch. Can't wait. Yeah, me neither. And Connor's got the last one for you. quick. Yeah, Marty, real quick. You uh. you have any Bojangles from for from. McGee down there in Charlotte? Well, I know that a lot of people uh in.

the. national viewership and the national. consciousness may not really understand. the. just what Bojangles is. Okay. when okay. when when when LeBron James is uh when. when it is when it is must eat anytime. he comes near Charlotte, North Carolina, you know it's the truth. It is a. Charlotte state. All right, we got to. go. We get it. We love Bojangles. Wait a.

minute. Wait a minute. Best sweet tea in. the world. Boys out there, put sugar in. your tea. That's Marty Smith. Thank you, Marty. We have an opportunity to give away. $75,000 to a giving named Daniel Venor. Absolutely. You're a sophomore, correct? Yeah. What is your major? Civil. engineering. Okay. So, what's that mean? What is civil engineering? Uh, I don't really know. Have you ever. kicked a ball before? I have. I have.

Wayne, were you a soccer player? Soccer. player. Yeah. Okay. How were you at. kicking soccer ball? It's pretty good. I. was okay. I was good. Have you ever said. anything negative about football. kickers? Maybe once or twice. Daniel, damn Daniel, we don't need that. You. make a field goal here from 33 yards. uphill. You're the civil engineer. You'd. have to tell me. I think it's about a 40. yard kick. If you're able to do that, we. will give you $75,000. All right. He's got no laces. Yeah. What. do we got going here? Can we get Can we. get a shot of shoes? What time of the. shoes? Daniel showed up in his vans with.

no races. What time did you get here for. this? about 11:40 last night. Need a lot. of power. Good luck, Daniel. I'm not feeling it. Not feeling it. [Music]. Just like everything this morning, that. was a surprise. We did not expect that.

Let's go. We got to do one more. One. more kick. for $100,000. You got this, dude. Let's go. How about. this, Daniel? How about this, Daniel? Not only is this one for. $100,000, if you make it, we'll add. another $100,000 to the $500,000. donation we're about to make from. College Game Day to the hurricane. relief. It could be 600,000 if you make. this with a h 100,000 going into your.

pocket. Daniel, this is bigger than you. Let's make a kick. Way to overcome the. shoes here. That was a heck of an. effort. Come on. You got this. In. Berkeley, California. You got it. [Applause]. Hell yeah. Great job. Damn.

Daniel, [Applause]. are you kidding me? [Applause]. [Music]. 1140. He was there. I know. 600,000 to. hurricane relief.

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Hello beautiful people and welcome back. to our huddle the boat the thunderdome. on this NFL schedule release day. Wednesday May 14th 2025 program starts. now sports are happening all around us. and we're lucky that we get a chance to. chat about it last night the Indiana. Pacers who were led by Tyrese. Hallebertton Miles Turner Pascal Seakum. Nemhard N Smith TJ McConnell and Rick. Carlau as the head coach punched their. ticket to the Eastern Conference Finals. for the second year in a row. Uh Tyrese.

Hallebertton was voted the most. overrated player in the NBA by the New. York Times athletic poll. And uh what. did they do? They just knocked off the. number one seed in Cleveland last night. Now, who will they play in that Eastern. Conference Finals? Will it be the Boston. Celtics who just learned yesterday that. their worst fears have become a reality? Jason Tatum tore his Achilles tendon in. a game in which he was about to score. 40. I think he maybe already scored 40. against the New York Knicks. He'll be.

out for the rest of the playoffs. obviously and then obvious I think out. all of next year as well. An absolute. bummer for the sport of basketball and. not great for the association and. obviously sucks for all Boston Celtics. fan. But the rest of their team is still. stacked and still have championship. pedigree as they take on a New York. Knicks team that if the game is close in. the fourth quarter, that man, the. Brunson burner, Jaylen Brunson will make. it a Knicks win as opposed to a Knicks. loss. Carl Anthony Towns was traded over. there and the rest of that Knicks squad.

is built for the moment seemingly. And. all of New York City is rallying behind. them. They could potentially punch their. ticket as well as underdogs in Boston of. four and a half points. That game will. start at 7:00 on TNT Andrew TV. Who will. be seeing the Pacers in the Eastern. Conference Finals? Let's go to the talks. table at Boss Connor at Tai Schmidt. Ty, how do you feel about the Boston Celtics. chances without Tatum? Do you think this. is a Knicks game obviously to win? I. kind of get a sense that the Celtics win. tonight just because they're not like.

there's no way they're supposed to win. Yeah. Know, I'm kind of in the same camp. as Connor. I think there's a good chance. that they do win this game tonight, but. when you're a Celtics fan or, you know, anyone on the Celtics, like you win the. NBA championship last year, so like they. don't give a [ __ ] about just making it. to the Eastern Conference Finals and it. does seem like it's quite the tall task. for them to win another championship and. go back to back without Tatum. That's. just that's a big part of the offense, a. big part of the team that you're going. to have to try to to replace. But I do. think they will probably get it done.

tonight and then, you know, ultimately. the Knicks will close them out. We are. not basketball handicappers. No. Okay. We are not doing any of that. I've been. telling you since January the Pacers are. the best team in the NBA just strictly. because I've been watching them and. their record has been the best. But this. feels like in sports when something's. not supposed to happen, it happens. Like. this just feels like through our history. of gambling on both our sport of. football and random sports in the. offseason when you feel like there's no. chance. Now, the Celtics being favored. by four and a half kind of tells us that.

they the books thinking the same thing, but in my eyes, this seems to set up for. a Celtics win just because it would be. unexpected. Now, let's go to one half of. the hammer down Cowboys AP tone. I say. all that while also understanding that. this team in the fourth quarter is the. best team in the league with what they. have to do. They've been unbelievable in. the fourth quarter and Brunson has. obviously been unbelievable in the. fourth quarter. But like, let's take a. look at Jaylen Brown. Uh, I believe he. was the MVP of the finals last year. Drew Holiday and Derek White were both.

on team USA this summer. Christoph Sport. Porzingis is still there. Al Horford is. still there. The cupboards are not bare. in Boston now. The Six are or the Knicks. are minus 600 to win the series. Obviously, not favorites tonight, but I. think there's definitely a world that we. live in where the this series is not. over. Yeah, I saw a lot of Knicks fans. just being like, "Yeah, we'll see you. there. We'll see you there." It's like. just like whenever everybody's saying. the Pacers are going to get past the. Cavs, it's like maybe like this best of. seven for a reason. Crazier things have. happened. Don't think it's possible with.

the way this Knicks team is built for. them to overlook anybody or kind of lay. an egg. But there's a chance that it. happens and that's why you know this. association best of seven playoffs has. been so electrifying. Yeah, it's been. awesome. Look, look, we're not some. rinky dink operation. Okay, this is the. Boston Celtics we're talking about. So. sure, a game five. How much you guys. sell for this year? and $6 billion, which got left off of uh some people's. evaluations of teams, which again, everyone's [ __ ] everyone sucks, so. I don't care. I'm looking forward to the. broadcast on TNT tonight. I think it's.

going to be a start to finish master. class just because there's a lot to talk. about. Uh but like I was just about to. say, we're we're the Boston Celtics. Okay, I understand some teams just want. to get to the Eastern Conference Finals. And in this situation, we have now. fallen into that category as a team that. would be, you know, happy to advance. But we're about banners, okay? We have. the most banners in in NBA history for a. reason. We only are playing for banners. We don't give a [ __ ] about beating the. Knicks in the round two. We don't give a. [ __ ] about beating the Pacers in the.

Eastern Conference Finals. We give a. [ __ ] about winning this trophy right. here, Larry OB, which I thought was. interesting. They got a fake one at the. PGA Championship because the real one's. sitting right here next to me. So, I I. mean, it's cool. It would be a great. story. I'm excited to watch the game. tonight. I'm excited to watch Jaylen. and, you know, Derek White and Drew and. support my boys. But again, without my. boy Jason Tatum, who leads the team in. points, assists, rebounds, and I believe. minutes, it's going to be hard to get me. to think, yeah, we're going to be able.

to go and raise banner 19 without him. But I can also see Jaylen Brown saying, "We did this one for Jason. This. banner's for Tatum. This one's for. Jason." Bingo. Joining us now is a man. who's in an attic in Ohio. I'll be. excited to get his thoughts on all of. this and anything else that he's maybe. stewing on because that's what this guy. does. He does. He stews on stuff. He. does. He's a college football national. champion. He's a Super Bowl champion. He's a Ryder Cup winner, ladies and. gentlemen. AJ Hawk, what are you stewing. on, AJ? Is it the fact that they uh said. that Tyrese was the most overrated.

player in the league and now they're in. the Eastern Conference Finals or what's. really, you know, uh driving you wild. right now in the sports world? Well, yeah. you know, I do sit and stew on. things, so I appreciate you letting me. let me get that out. Uh, when you guys. were talking about this this Celtics. Knicks game, I feel like either the. Celtics find a way to win this thing or. they get routed or they get blown out. and it's over like halfway through the. third. That's that's what I view this. game tonight as. So, the interesting. thing about that is a lot of these games. in the NBA playoffs have been blowouts. at one point during the game and then. granted Pacers lose by 40, Knicks lost.

by 30 or whatever it was in in the game. three whenever they were up 20. So like. there was a couple games that have been. blowouts. I understand that. But in the. fourth quarter, all these games have. basically come back to within reach. Game of runs. It's definitely a game of. runs always. You're right. I mean a. 20-point lead is that's nothing. Seven. minutes to go. Yeah. Happened last night. and it's happened again against the. Pacers a couple weeks ago and then I. think the Nuggets were down at one point. and then they were able to come back. It's been like it's been on a very. regular B almost like remember football.

a 14-point lead in football like 5 years. ago was like ball game. You're in a good. spot. Insurmountable. Yeah. You can't. come back. You're in a If it's halfway. through the third or later, it's. like I don't know. This one we got to. start bringing out trick plays. Like we. got to start trying to figure this out. Now like 17 points, even like 20 points. in the NFL is attainable pretty quickly. with how explosive things have gotten. It's not just the NFL obviously where. people have gotten more talented on. offensive side of ball. Basketball as.

well. I mean, there's like 19 two runs. that happen out of nowhere. And for some. reason, I know stat statistitians can't. find it in their souls to believe in it. But once one falls for a team and then a. crowd starts building, it feels like. that next one, there's a little bit more. surface area on that hoop. And whenever. these runs start happening, especially. at home for these teams, it is. electrifying. And if you're on the other. side, you just got to be you got to be. holding on for dear life and just hoping. that a foul comes or you make a big. shot. And that's the thing about this.

Pacers team, what I've liked about him, and I think probably Nick's fans will. say the same thing. When the Cavs would. go on a run and it felt like they were. getting their momentum, like the Pacers. in the face of their fans and momentum, they would knock down a massive shot and. it's like boom, right there, you just. put everything to sleep. But if you miss. a couple of those, that thing's going. the other way rapidly. And that's what. the story of this playoffs has been for. the NBA in my eyes. Yeah. I mean, last. night the Pacers, like when they were. down 20, you know, I I was getting to. the point where I was almost like, "All.

right, I'm going to, you know, flip. channels and and I'll I'll check back in. during the next game." And then Tyrese. hits a couple threes, like they they cut. that 20point lead to, you know, nine. like in under a minute, you know? So, it's like how quickly things can happen. is is crazy. And again, I said this a. couple weeks ago, like that's what I. think the biggest difference between. playoff basketball and regular season. basketball is is we see those blowouts. in the regular season. Like teams will. kind of whether it's load management or. whatever. Yeah, exactly. Teams will be. like, "Okay, hey, we're down 20 in the.

third quarter, like it's not our night. We got another game tomorrow, the next. game." In in the playoffs, like that. that's not the case at all. And and we. will see these leads more often than. not, you know, get cut down and and. games are coming down to the last couple. possessions in most of the playoffs, which is why the Celtics have been. losing. Yeah, exactly. Because the. Knicks in the fourth quarter, they've. been knocking down the shots and the. Celtics haven't. No matter what happens. in the first three quarters, it's always. coming down to like the final four. minutes. I went to sleep last night, pretty late in that game, Nuggets were. up. It's like Nuggets are going to win. this game. Congrats to Joker. He's kind. of shut everybody up. Everybody's been.

talking [ __ ] on him. And I wake up in. the morning, it's like they missed three. shots and Oklahoma City made three shots. and then they made their free throws. over. You lose the game. It's out of. reach now all of a sudden. It's like I. um I've been impressed with this year's. NBA playoffs. Yeah, the stat everyone's. talking about with the Knicks Celtics is. the Knicks have only led for like 24. minutes and 50 seconds in the entire. series. And obviously it's 3-1. But I. feel like tonight will be either a. Celtics, you know, shoot 30% from the. field and get killed or they make 30.

three-pointers and are just absolutely. rolling. I will be excited to see if. Tatum's there, you know, a quick couple. days after an operation. Maybe he's up. in a suite with his leg kicked up and. people are going nuts for him and it's a. hell of an atmosphere or maybe the. Knicks just say, "You know what? It's. been a good run, but it's MSG season, baby. We got homecourt advantage if we. beat these Celtics." Let's just get it. done in five and we don't have to worry. about anybody getting, you know, tired. in this next series here. Yeah. And the. story of the Knicks Pacers last year was.

the Knicks got hurt, ran out of gas, and. the Pacers ran them off the court and. went into Madison Square Garden and did. did some gardening. They did some. gardening. I remember that and it's. become a great rivalry, I think, personally. Uh the Knicks and the Pacers. already with a young crew. Let's go to. one half of the hammer. D Cowboys AP. Tone. Yeah. Uh something you guys were. talking about there as far as second. half comebacks. Now, this is not coming. back to win, but teams that trail at. half are now 70% against the second half. spread in this year's NBA playoffs. They've covered 10 in a row. So, if you.

were to take the team that was down. second half spread, they have covered 10. in a row in this NBA playoffs. Good for. them. Yeah, good for those teams. Good. for the better, too. Back door, back. door, back door, back door. Uh, joining. us now, ladies and gentlemen, is not an. NBA player. Uh, he's actually a Pro Bowl. NFLer. I think he's been to the Pro Bowl. four times. if uh Connor's math was. right here on this particular sheet. He's also a guy I think he owns a race. team or a drifting team. You already. know, ladies and gentlemen. Tackle for.

the Buffalo Bills, Dion Dawkins. [Applause]. You already know. Yeah, you already snow. baby. How you doing? Vibes. What up, man? Hey, how have you been? How's the. offseason been? I saw you promoting the. NLL Buffalo Bandits, the NLL lacrosse. team up there. How's that going? Are you. a fan of the team? Yeah, I'm a fan of. sports, bro. I like sports. I like. people that compete. Anybody that can. get on a big stage and perform under. lights is cool, you know? I've been at. all the WWE events. I've been all over. the place, bro. I enjoy it. I enjoy.

being at events and I enjoy spectating. This shit's pretty cool. Yeah, I enjoy. watching people do their thing, you. know, cuz we understand how much work. has been put in beforehand to get to. that moment. Uh, now let's talk about. the work that beforehand to get to the. moment. What does the offseason look. like for you, Dion? When does everything. get started for the Buffalo? Oh, we're. driving. We're driving, right? We're. driving, bro. Yeah. And we're driving. We're driving. Um, now that's what my. offseason it looks like. But, you know, it's OTAAS now. So, uh, bouncing back. and forth from Buffalo to Florida to.

Atlanta to Virginia this weekend. But, uh, I come I work out for four days a. week and then Friday, Saturday, and. Sunday I'm probably drifting my drift. car and, uh, enjoying the family. Um, I'm trying to just balance it all and. it's been a good balance. But, you know, I try to just just have fun, bro. Like, life is short. I've been seeing that. stuff is happening in the world, bro. Do. what you like to do, man. I like to. wrestle. I like to play. I like to have. fun. I like to do drifting. And I'mma. I'mma spin them tires, dog. I've been.

following along on Instagram and. watching you dri I mean, he's we're. real. Hey, we are professionals. No, it's it's it's a real thing, Pat. It is. a it is a real thing, bro. But I'm. telling you, I know that everybody wants. a piece of Pat, but I'm telling you, if. you want to experience something that. you have never experienced before of a. thrill and a rush, get in a drift car. with snow. Please just get in a drift. car with snow. It's one of those things. that you don't even know exists until. you get in it. You're like, "Bro, why. have I not been doing this my whole. freaking life?" Yeah, I had a uh I have.

a Mustang, 650 ponies going to the back. two wheels. Yeah, I've done some. drifting in my day. I've done some. drifting in my day. I That is insane. I. actually have a I have a Mustang being. built right now from Justin Pollock who. was a FD driver and it is a Mustang. Um. Roush is the sponsor and Rous is. donating all the supercharger and all. the stuff and uh I agree the 650 horse. powers. Yes, it's beautiful. But you.

know what you're doing if you're talking. that type of number in the in the horse. range. Well, I did know what I was. doing. Yeah. I uh I took that Shelby. Okay. And I was very comfortable. Okay. Hey, I'm fluttering with the clutch. I'm. fluttering with the clutch. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm working this. thing. You know, and I I I got too. confident, I think. So, I have a little. I at one of my houses uh I had a little. roundabout in front of the house, you. know, a little circuit, you know, super. successful. Super successful. And uh. Yeah, it was cool to have that. Very. cool to have that. Yeah. Super cool. Until it's not. So, I uh you know, had.

the wife in the car. First time having. the show. He's tripping. Yeah. Yeah. Don't do that. You'll scare them to. death, bat. Well, almost kill them, too. So, uh, so it was the first time I had. Shelby out in like two years. I hadn't. had it out in a while, you know, just. was excited about it. I was like, "Oh, I'm going to drift this thing around my, uh, driveway, you know, cuz I can Okay, I I feel pretty comfortable with it. Okay. Been driving, you know, uh, manual, been driving sticks since like. 16. Learned how to do it. Kind of been.

floating gears a long time, brother. You. know, Dad, the whole thing, you know, like I thought it was really good. Short trick. Pull that E bra. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Pothole. Go crazy. Pull the. E bra. All you hear is the little guy on. your shoulder go. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well, what I heard was pothole. Pothole. Back right wheel hits pothole. Oh, that's n Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Into a tree. Yeah. Yeah. Boom. Yeah. Shelby had to go Shelby had. to go shop there. And uh the wife at the.

time girlfriend not the most impressed. I learned quickly and uh yeah, it was a. wild time. So that's the last time I. drifted a car. But with that being said, would love to sit passenger while you. are snowing me around the damn uh drift. course. Hey Pat, like where we drift at. like up here in Buffalo, it's a it's a. open black top. So we don't have no. potholes. It's all flat. It's all open. And then we go in between but the. buildings. And that's maybe the only. part where you can get a little iffy.

But besides that, it's all a complete. black top. But I want to ask you. something, Pat. I don't ever like want. to hijack, but bro, can you tell me. about Backlash, please? I watched I am a. fan. I love it. I was rooting for you. I. was like, please kick Gunther's ass. I. freaking love it. You are a freaking. stud, bro. You are the black and blue, bro. I'm telling you, bro. It is It is. It is the real deal, bro. First of all, New Bruce, Pat, I had no idea. Well, first of all, I knew that you wrestled.

and that you had history of wrestling. and you were actually a wrestler for. years. But, bro, the backflip off the. top turnbuckle. I'm telling you, bro, people don't understand the athletic. ability to be able to do that and then. land and then about to get suplexed and. then come out the suplex with this. Jordan 11s on. It's crazy. You already. know, brother. You already know, there. brother. Yeah, I appreciate you doing. that. And uh yeah, I mean, I was trying. to get him with the one 123 kids moons. there. He obviously ring general moves. out of the way here. I'm like, well, he.

just German suplexed me two times. Legs. give out from underneath me there. Okay. Was uh was trying to land on the feet. and right here. Oh my god. This is it. Big punt. Kick his head up. Boom. Gunther's done. One. Nope. Open for one. Crazy. And then he tried to choke you. out. And like come on, bro. He didn't. try to. Come on. Yeah, he did. He did. I. had to take a stand, you know. Yeah. Boom. Boom. Yeah. Boom. Yeah. Right. I. had I think he was worried. The goother. gut. Yeah, the gut. The gut of goth.

Yeah, Gunther didn't take it anymore. I. thought I had I was thinking sidewalk. slam. I was trying to remember what. other people would do. Man, you should. swan ball the top turnbuckle. So, the. Swan Tony Bombini was certainly. something I was thinking about trying to. add in there. I do a little grati up. there. Uh it was obviously um it wasn't. a fun experience for me. For Cole, it. was worse, I think, than it was for me. because Cole felt terrible about the. entire thing that was happening because. he put us into that entire situation. It. was his fault I was in there. But it was.

uh obviously when you're about 6 minutes. into that thing, 7 minutes into that. thing, you already know. Yeah, we are blowing. up in that entire thing. But also, uh. it's a realization. Oh, we're beating. the [ __ ] out of each other in here. That. is what this is. And it's uh it's quite. a boom smacked to the mouth. You a lot. of that. It was a lot of that. He uh it. was awesome. I think you would be great. Crazy. I think you would be great in. there, too. Yeah. I mean, I still I'm. still bruised up pretty good. I mean,

man, look. And but the next time you get. to practicing, bro, tell Let me know, man. I will come and practice with you, dog. I'm telling you. Cuz next time, maybe tag team champions, dog. We can. kick their ass, man. We can kick their. ass, man. I think you would have been a. phenomenal professional wrestler if you. boot to the face. JBL, you know what I'm. saying? Like the real, you know what I'm. saying? Clothes line from hell. Yeah. Clos line from hell. Yeah. You know, I. felt a couple of those this weekend. I'll tell you what, those are. devastating. Those certainly are.

devastating. And I don't know if that if. it's directly from hell, but it sure. felt hell was coming with it. All right, let's from heaven. Let's talk a little. football. Um, for the Buffalo Bills, what do you think is the thing that gets. you guys over the hump? I don't want to. say over the hump, but you get it. What. do you think gets you guys to take the. next step? Obviously, elite team, elite. program, elite vibes, it sounds like in. that building, uh, culture, fantastic. What do you think it is this year that. maybe you guys either have or what do.

you think you talk about going into the. year? You know, I think to just to keep. it of what it is, uh, it's just. opportunity. All we need is the. opportunity again and we'll see and what. happens because we have everything that. we have and we have everything that and. we need but I think that the biggest. thing is honestly just be able to get. oursel in a position to have the. opportunity to take another swing out of. it. Swing at it. Um that's it. Like we. don't need another player. We don't need. another this, another that. We just need. ourselves to just tone in on finishing.

and just having the opportunity and. getting ourselves to be able to have the. opportunity to go for it again. Cuz it's. hard. It's hard to get to that distance. of a season, but to be able to get. there, you know, that's what it is. But. we have to be there to have another. swing out of it. And uh when we get. there, it'll be special. A lot of things. have a lot of things have to go your way. to get that far in the league. And a lot. of things have to go way. A lot of luck. has to happen. A lot of balls have to. bounce your way. That's why what the. Patriots were able to do for 20 years is. just absolutely absurd. But you guys as.

well, we've had a lot of success. obviously haven't had the massive. success that uh you know Chiefs Eagles. have had, but being around is just a. very difficult thing. Excited to watch. you guys break through. Go ahead, AJ. Yeah, Dion, as far as you personally, how is your like we're in the heart of. your offseason workouts right now? Everything you're doing with the team. How has your off season's changed from. when you first got in the league until. now? Like as far as physically and. mentally, what you have to do to get. ready for the season? Yeah, man. It's. been uh like the older and but you get.

you learn how to maintain and protect. your body. I think uh a lot of I mean I. don't want to cheat code it but I do a. lot of Pilates. I do a lot of Pilates. I. do a lot of re reform. I do a lot of. stretching. Um and I rest. I rest. I. rest when I can. But the lack. of rest can hurt. I do a lot. But while. I'm traveling I sleep. If I'm not at. performing I'm sleeping. If I'm not. doing something I'm stretching. Like I. think that that has been the biggest.

difference in my career is I do a lot of. stretching with Pilates and I rest when. I'm not performing and uh I do a lot but. when I can get a 15 minutes here or 20. like minutes there those add up over. time and I've trained and my body to be. able to sleep whenever I choose to and. uh I think that that's what is beautiful. about it because with moving around so. much you have to be able to just sit. back and just turn the switch off and. I've been doing that and that's been. been great. But and a mental part too is.

uh just understanding who I am and not. cheating on at myself and understanding. that I'm not perfect and just uh just to. be free. Just try to be as free as. possible and don't cause no extra added. stress that is unnecessary. Love your. vibes. Love everything about the way you. approach life. It is fantastic. There. needs to be more Deion Dawkins is. There. won't because of how big, strong, fast, athletic you are with this mindset is. absurd. You said you can fall asleep. So. you you can fall asleep like sitting up. You can do all that stuff. You're like. uh not not standing up, but as I'm. sitting here in in this chair, yes, I.

can sit here and I can just work on my. breathing and just breathe and breathe. and then all of a sudden it'll be and. it's and that's like a military and. that's like a military like technique. But like I've I've listened and I've. learned but yeah, you know what is it? Is it the uh in for 4 812 or whatever it. is the uh Yes. Is that what you do? Yes, it does work. Okay. It's like it feels. like it's a up down down down left right. for your body. Like you uh It's a It's a. joystick a Grand Theft Auto cheat code. type of thing. Yeah. What is it? You.

breathe in for a certain amount of time. You hold for a certain amount of time. You breathe out for a certain amount of. time. Then you have no air for a certain. amount of time. It's called like block. or box or square breathing. Is it box. breathing? Box breathing or something. like that. Yeah. I uh whatever but the. name is. Yeah. Like it's it's but it's. literally all off of breathing. Like you. have to just hold and your breaths, deep. breaths in and just kind of just slow. your heart rate down. Just slow it down. Slow it down. And then you just don't. don't fall asleep. Don't fall asleep, Dion. We need you right now. Yeah. Don't. Don't fall asleep. Don't Dion, you.

already snow. Wakey wakey. Wakey wakey. He's getting rest for the season. He's. going to have a good season. You got to. stole a quick two minutes or whatever. All right. Uh let's talk about the. season. Got some new teammates. Go. ahead, Con man. Yeah, Dion. Big addition. for you guys on the Dline was Joey Bosa. Have you been able to talk to him? Is. that something you're looking forward. to? Just learning kind of his thoughts. and tricks of the trade when it comes. to, you know, dealing with certain pass. rushers? Yeah, so I've I've known Joey. for a little while, but uh now that I.

get the opportunity to speak to him, our. first like conversation was real Joey. like. Um he's definitely a football guy, but we talked about bunkers. We talked. about bunkers and it was pretty cool, bro. It was like, "Yeah, bro. I kind of. just want a bunker just in case if. anything happens. And and uh that was. the Joey Snow conversation. It was about. being out in the country and about. bunkers, which is a very unique thing. cuz I'm like black top, very. in-your-face and it's like, yeah, I just. want to go in a bunker. And that's cool. It's super cool. Uh but yeah, Joey is a.

great player. He works out hard. He's. here. He's present. And as a as a. teammate knowing and receiving new. teammates, the guys that choose to be. present when he doesn't have to be. because he's already at a certain level, I respect it cuz like you know, right? Like he's had a contract, he has his. life, he has his uh life and he doesn't. have to be here yet. But he understands. that this is our motto to be present and. being present and that he's just came in. and grabbed on board. You know, I'm okay.

with it. Like he gets my head nod and my. and thumb up. But I like Joey. Bunker. Joey. I think Bunker Joey Joey Snowy. conversation is uh one that certainly. should be a uh Buffalo Bill social media. thing if possible. Maybe go into a. bunker to record it. I've heard those. are great times. There's spent a lot of. money on a big bunker from what I was. reading on. Yeah, who knows? I don't. want to get into it, but I've heard the. bunkers are uh uh a pretty good idea. And when he said life and then you. double down and said life again, I think. you didn't want to out anything in his. life like family, friends, houses he. got. But him picking up new city off.

season coming up there to a place he. doesn't know to show face to be present. I think that is a great sign of. leadership and obviously that goes back. to the culture you know that Bean has. built up there that obviously McDermott. has and you guys have all taken to a. next level. Tai has a question for you. Yeah speaking of that culture and. everything. Uh, is it weird when you. look at your team, obviously the Super. Bowl is the only goal and that's what. you guys are looking for, but you guys. are kind of the elder statesman in the. AFC East now you look around, you know,

there's two new head coaches, there's a. lot of stuff going on in Miami, you. know, with different players maybe. leaving and all that kind of stuff. Um, how how hard is it? I I don't want to. say like, you know, keeping the main. thing the main thing obviously knowing. that, hey, in order to, you know, win a. Super Bowl and do what we want to do, we. need the we need to win the division. first, especially when now you have a. couple of these teams who are going to. be much different than what you guys. have played over the last couple years. Yeah. Our our first goal, you know, is.

we have to win our division. Not that. that's the easiest way in, but when you. handle your division, then the rest. takes care of itself, right? Win the. division, you get the opportunity to. play in the playoffs. Get the. opportunity to play in the playoffs, you. get the opportunity to play for the. championship. So, step one is one, be. present. Two, know your job. And three, you know, win the division. And that is. what we preach and that's where we're at. every single year. But, you know, winning the division is the first step.

of greatness. And we not we seem to have. that unlocked, but like we do a good job. of taking that first step. But it's hard. every single year. Our division gets. tougher. These guys get better. The. Dolphins, the Jets, the like the. Patriots even. Like these guys play us. hard. Like even if the records don't. show it, these guys play us extremely. extremely hard. And that's our toughest. battles throughout this season until we. get to the Chiefs and the Ravens and. like all these, you know, juggernauts. Colts. Yeah. Colts. Yep. My guy Kenny.

Yep. Colts. Thank you. Yeah, Kenny. Mad. respect. Kenny Mo. Mad respect. Mad. respect for Kenny. Mad respect for Kenny. Mo. Love Kenny Mo. I I wish we had It. would be great to have Mo Kenny Mo. Mo. Kenny Mo. It would be great to have Mo. Kenny Mo. You already You already. If we could get a Bunker Joe, that'd be. great. I think we do. Bunker Joe. I. think we do have a Bunker Joe. Mo Kenny. Mo. You had Bunker Joe. What are you. talking about? Not in Cleveland. No,

you're not. You talk about Joe Flacco. Yeah, Bunker Joe Flacco. That ain't. Bunker Joe. Oh, you did that truck. Yeah, Flaco. Yeah, he was there. Yeah. Boom. Yes, he was there. You know, Jeez. Louise, you got Danny Joe now. Now we. got Danny Joe. We need At least you got. the Indy500. You got the Indy500. I'll. be there. You're coming out. 500 is. coming up. That was a super It's super. dope. I'll be there. You're coming to. any You know, the Pacers are playing. afterwards. They got uh Eastern. I'm. planning on I'm planning on being there. Yes, sir. Okay. Racing and patient,

baby. Come on out. We'll see. Oh, wow. Yo, look. Yo. Yo, you're legit, bro. Racing. I didn't make it up. I didn't. make it out. Do not give me credit. Do. not give me credit. There's other. things. That's tough. No, thank you. There is other things that I have. created that people do not give me. enough credit for. This is not one that. I created and we do not. No, no, no. I. did not. No, no, no. Now, you already. know I did not. You got it. Race it and. past it, man. All right, we get the. shirt. All right, I'll make sure. Let's. trade. Don't plan on doing much either. AJ has Yeah. So the. Indy500, I don't know how much you're.

living. I don't know what you're living. like. There's going to be a lot of. opportunity to do a lot of boozing if. that's what you're looking to do. And uh. I don't know if that's what you're in. Yeah. Yeah. There's a lot of that. A lot. of that. So hey, know that Pacer game's. coming though. That Pacer game's coming. hours and hours and hours later. So I'll. be excited to see you uh monitor your. vibes throughout the entirety. For sure. They will. I have my glasses on. I. promise you won't see my eyes. Well, and. also I mean in that snake fit he could. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Exactly. Catch a.

quick nap and catch a quick catch a. quick catch a quick monster refresh. Okay. Go ahead, AJ. Go ahead, AJ. Yeah, Dion. I don't sorry I don't know your. exact sports background growing up and. in high school, but I assumed you played. basketball, ran track, baseball. I. assumed you're an athlete and. everything. like uh when you have I. think when you watch it you see your. feet like you have great feet and I. think that comes from a lot of times. playing other sports as a young kid. What sports did you play and how. important do you think that is? I think.

it's the most important thing because I. did everything and you're correct. Um I. played basketball but because I grew up. in Jersey I never played on the high. school team. We played in Hoboking every. single day um during the basketball. season. We played every day in Hoboken. I ran track and field. I threw. I. wrestled. Um, I bowled and I swam. But. one of the biggest things that I do and. still do now is I longboarded. I have a. longboard that I still have since I was. young. And I used to longboard. And that. longboard helped me with my single foot.

balance. And why my calves are the way. and that they are is because I was. always pushing and kicking and. balancing. But, um, all of that. definitely did work. And then in. college, I took tennis, which helped. with my lateral movements. And, um, I. just tried to do everything. And uh. sports is definitely why it creates the. perfect type of character of player, you. know, like you just can't just do one. thing, but you can like you can do one. thing and you might get lucky. But all. the variety of sports definitely do play. a big part of the sport that that and.

that you love, which is me in this case. is football. But it does definitely. balance and help. Swim, tennis. Yep. Yep. Longboarding. And then let's talk. about bowling. You think bowling helped. your lungs a little bit? We had a. bowling lane, uh, bowling alley that I. hung out at growing up. I didn't get. good at bowling, but I was around there. Billiards, I could probably do okay if. we needed. Cigarette smoke. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. Do you think that build up the. lungs? The cigarettes, man. The the. cigarette smoke definitely made your. lungs extremely strong because when you.

don't smoke the cigarettes, your body. begins to form this defense of keeping. it out. But who knows? I think I was. definitely Pete Weber. Yeah, Pete Weber. and other things. I think I mean, I'm. not getting into I'll let him tell his. story more. Where were you? Were you a. two-handed wonder from down under? Were. you No, that was that was elite bowling. That two-handed stuff is elite. I was. the one hand spin, but when you end your. your your go, you end on that one leg, which is still balance. So, it was still.

balancing and still helping everything, which it was fun, but it was also cool. cuz I tightened up and my quad and. everything. But, yeah, one hand spinner. and I would only put two fingers in and. flick the rest. And what was the uh what. was the average? What was the average? Oh, I was really like a 180 guy, 175. Like that was that was like me like on. an average day. But you know, I get to. the 205s, you know. You know, the bigger. the kick, the better the flick, they. say. You know, whenever you go out like. there, I didn't create that either. That. was a bowling thing. Yeah. See, look at.

the balance. Look, your quad is. activating right now. If you stay there. for 15 seconds, your quad is going to be. on fire. 10. 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 two Hey, that's. burning. Look, I mean, no scores, too. The other one now got. balanced. My other leg I can left leg I. can balance on. That's you know cuz I'm. right footed. So the the balance all.

came from this one. I have learned. through my years the right foot not as. the knee not as what what a guy, bro. What a guy. Yeah, you're the guy. All. right, we appreciate you for joining us. Enjoy the hell out of your life. It. seems like that's going to be uh. definite. You've earned all of this. Can't wait to see where you're drifting. this weekend. We'll see you in Indie in. a few weeks. Yes, sir. Much love as. always, yo. But you guys are the truth, bro. You already show. You are. Hey, let's make sure they don't screw you. this year with the Yeah. Oh, yeah. No, we already talking about it, man. It. ain't happening. No flags. No flags,

man. You know, we need a. for big boys need an award. I big boys. need an award. All right, Pat. That's. all I'm saying. Big boys need an award. We did give out an award this year, but. we will try to push for the NFL to give. one out as awards NFL honors cuz that's. real. Now, are you going to go interior. and then tackles or you just going What. is the goal? It's a unit. It's anybody that plays. ball, center, guard, tackle. You shall.

see. We shall see. But I'm telling you, we And we working, man. It's We're working. All right. This. is what we This is what we gave out last. year was a trenchy. We gave out the. trenches. Uh you you were a finalist for. the trenchy. That's AQ Shipley on top of. that when he was at the Arizona. Cardinals, weighing 360 lbs at 5'11. And. uh we put some Kevin Green hair on him. just to show some respect. You know, that is insane, bro. Why is the stomach. so big? Look, the big guys can be.

swagged up, too, man. The big guys can. be swagged up, too. We did not edit the. photo, obviously. My ball stomach the. Frenchies boy. That boy like a little. Frenchie, man. What's up with my ladies. and gentlemen talking? Thank you. He's the greatest. Why is your stomach. so big? We were asking the same. question. It had to be as his friend at. the time. I was asking him the same. questions. But what's going on here? Well, I'm playing fullback. I'm playing. kill off push people around. Yeah, he.

was able to move at that weight. And now. that he's thinner, he I'm happy he is. putting weight back on though. Remember. he was on that big long I feel like he. maybe thought to himself like when I. retire I'm gonna become a iron man. athlete or whatever. UFC fighter. Yeah. Whatever he was thinking. Yeah. Wrestling in billionaire basement or. whatever. And he he got like too thin. too focused like way too focused on the. fitness thing. And he wasn't eating. food, right? Like he he was miserable at. 30 pills a day. Yeah. It wasn't him. either. like it was it was him but like.

he lost that edge and that edge came. from being happy you know and like doing. this entire thing. So then yeah here's. the actual photo that we took from and. nobody we're not expecting that's a real. photo for real. That's a real one. Yes. And we're not expecting him to look like. this. We're happy he does not look like. this. Oh my god. We'd like him to look. I've never seen that before. It's just a. bad angle when you bend down like that. It's a bad angle. Yeah. I mean. especially with how tight the football. pants are. Right. Football pants are so. tight. Two bowling balls in his gut. Yeah, maybe four if you really start.

doing the math and start looking at it a. little closer. But we don't want this. We none of us wanted this. We huge. We. were worried out. We were worried about. him. I'm worried just looking that he. was like that at one point. Exactly. He's got He's got kids. He's got a. family. He's got a future like this is. not good. This is not We told him that. Okay. I would like to let everybody. know. Friends of his at this time said, "Bob, this can't be. Tighten it up. This. can't be what it is." He goes, "Oh, I. know these white jerseys." You know, he. gave a full speech at the time. So then.

when he retired, I think like all of us. maybe in this exact moment telling him. this, he like locked in like, "When I. retire, I'm going to become like super. fit." And we watched that for what, a. year and a half after he retired, it was. like, "All right, dude. I know this is. partially my fault because of what I. said whenever your [ __ ] big gut was. hanging out, but like we don't need. this. This is not what we need. That was. crazy. This is not what we need for the. entirety of your existence." So, he's. back to being a I think he's normal. But. we should myself AQ. I mean, I'm in the.

middle of it right now. You're you're. about one two bad weeks away from like. Oh, yeah. running away with it. Yeah. You know, cuz I was uh heavy keto trying. to lose weight against Gunter, you know. And then I thought to myself like four. days before, I'm like, well, maybe I get. some more padding on me actually cuz. he's going to bang hard in there. I. mean, he's going to be banging in there. So now I'm like, "All right, what do I. have to prepare for?" Uh, nothing. Yeah. So I will take the French toast sticks.

from Burger King this morning. Is five. pieces enough? I don't think so. I'm. 6'1, 240. Sure. Heading to 260. So I did. two of those this morning. So then I I. had to look at myself in the mirror and. be like, "Buddy, come on. We don't need. to do the full song and dance again.". Sure. So, you know, I think AQ's doing. the same thing. And that's why what you. do every day so impressive. White. rice, bare grilled chicken. Yeah. Yes. Every meal, rest of life. No. No. I'm. not Orlowski. Dan Dano really lives that.

like that. I am not that. But I'm very. plain. You know, I like food plain. That's all. Once again, forget. everything he just said right there. Yep. This guy eats white rice and bare. plain, sorry, grilled chicken every. meal. Even whenever we present him with. a very tempting offer. Look at his. pizza. Look at his sandwich. Yeah, look. at this chocolate donut. His discipline. is unbelievable. AJ, your discipline is. unbelievable. It really is. I don't know. how you're able to do it. I I'm looking. to do that for, you know, the rest of my.

being. Today was a wakeup call whenever. I had I don't know, 6,000 calories over. there for breakfast, give or take. Yeah. I don't know if that's a good thing or a. bad thing. AQ's the same way. So, we got. to monitor it. And we need some. accountability buddies. We need some. accountability buddies, too, to say, "Hey, don't be so fat." A lot of people. tell me, I need to say that to you. AQ. looks amazing there from um the shipyard. there. Sure. I wonder if they flushed. the toilet since last year in that piss. in there. A lot of people say that I um. Oh, that was in the Hawk House. A lot of. people say I'm not a good enough friend.

to you. Conor's not a good enough friend. to you. They say Tong's not a good. enough friend to you. Why are they. saying that? Cuz they say you almost. poop your pants way too often. And that. should be talked about. What should we. do, Ty? I mean, not a whole lot. I have. a physical illness, a physical. disability that I've had for a long. time. So, like, you know, when people. say like, "Hey, you should try taking. probiotics." It's like, "Oh, wow. I. never [ __ ] thought of that. You think. I like doing this? You think I like. eating something very plain?" And then. like, "Yeah, two hours later it's like, "Hey, sorry. I'm legitimately going to.

[ __ ] my pants if we if I can't go right. now." You think it's it's fun just. sitting there with like a stomach ache? It feels like you have a a goddamn, you. know, mortar shell inside your stomach. No, it's not great. It's not great. But, you know, am I just going to eat a plain. turkey sandwich from Subway for the rest. of my life with nothing on it? No, I'm. not going to do that either. So, it's. kind of Every once in a while, you need. a little zah. You need some zah. Okay. At 10:30 a.m. Exactly. Or at 11:00 p.m.,

you know, when you know, eating it, hey, guess what? eating this and then. piggybacking it with a 45 ounce coffee. the next morning, you might have some. you might run into some issues. Listen, everybody on this earth has a cross to. bear. That's my cross to bear. You know, it's just something I got to deal with. It's something I'm going to do. So, I. don't ever think, hey, you need to be a. better friend to me deciding what's. going in my stomach. I I live with that. and I'm doing just fine. Uh this is from. yesterday, obviously. And you did make.

it, right? Is what we're being told. I. did make it. It was a It was a photo. finish, but I did make it. How come you. didn't slide across the ring? Debbut. wanted you to maybe way in there. I. considered it. Uh I had a pair of nice. Lululemon slacks on. I love those. I. wear those all the time. If my stomach. would have hit the uh the ring, I would. have I I mean, I would have [ __ ]. blown out the backside of my pants big. time. And I don't really, you know, doing that's one thing. I don't really. need to see a bunch of people on TV. seeing my me explosively [ __ ] my pants.

So, uh, that's why I decided not to dive. into the ring. I'll consider it next. time. I will I'll consider doing it next. time. Well said. I don't mean to laugh in your. face. No, it's a I'm laughing with you. here. I've been dealing with this since. I was 16. The thing that's the greatest about it. is it does happen a lot on the show. Yeah. People don't even know obviously. outside the show. Think about how many. times this potentially happens to Tai. and how he feels this way. But we'll. watch what Tai's eating for breakfast.

and we'll all go, "Well, seems like. there's about a nuke on deck. It's. coming." Yeah. And uh I did appreciate I. I got like some real messages from. people that were like, "Somebody's got. to be the adult and tell Tai that he. needs to lock in here. This is not how. it's supposed to go. You guys need a. dietitionian at the Thunderdome. You. need somebody to come in there and talk. about nutrition." Okay. At the It's. like, "Oh, I'm sure Tai will listen. Dude, would you like to would you like. to talk to You want to bring a. PowerPoint deck and show everybody how. they should eat and how Ty should eat. This guy's an adult. He's got kids.

Okay. Yeah. We're in the business of. telling other adult males, you know, how. they should live their life. Speaking of. Dan, we need you to start taking care of. yourself a little bit. If I choose to, I. will. Okay. Um, we have some breaking. news out of the NFL before we turn to. some breaking news from the MLB. Derrick. Henry and the Baltimore Ravens have. reached an agreement on a 2-year $30. million extension that includes 25. million fully guaranteed over the next. two seasons per Todd France of A1. athletes first. It is the largest deal. in NFL history for a running back over. 30 years old. Okay, however you qualify.

it for being a big deal. Sweet running. back position back and Derrick Henry, remember he had that magical run with. the Titans uh where he led them to the. playoffs. They're actually the team that. kind of launched the Kansas City Chiefs. dynasty because they had the lead and. then Chiefs come back and win. Uh. Dererick Henry and Ryan Tanahill get. paid in Tennessee. Massive turnover. happens. He goes to Baltimore. We all. assume what a perfect fit. What a. perfect match for a team and a culture. And here we are a year later after a. successful run. And that is the case. Remember at the beginning of the season,

Harbaugh said we're not running a. 30-year-old Derrick Henry 20 times a. game. Like that is not how we're going. to win. Then as the game season went on, it was like, "Yeah, we are actually. going to feed this guy. He's a special. athlete and uh he takes care of himself. He's committed to the uh profession.". And uh what a perfect fit over there in. Baltimore. Congrats to Derrick Henry, King Henry, and also Baltimore. AJ, he's. one of those guys that's like the. scariest type of guys to play against. because obviously the guy's a physical. freak. He he was born genetically like.

he's unbelievable, but then he has. absolutely like maximized every single. ounce of what that is. when you you hear. about people that play with him like his. nutrition, his work ethic, everything. he's doing. Yeah. Well well welldeserved. and running back position, he is a big. part of a reason of why I think the. running back position has gotten some. some good shine over the last three, four or five years. Yeah. And the. running back position all the way back. seemingly. Go ahead, K. Yeah, I think he. was the only running back with, you. know, 1500 yards over the last five. seasons to have multiple of them and. he's got like four of them. Uh, but this.

was what Jimmy Seafood, uh, John. Minadopoulos was talking about. The. extension that was coming. Yeah, that's. not his name. What's his name? Yeah, it. is Jimmy. They extended with the Ravens. yesterday. Yeah, they they the Ravens. and uh uh Edgar Poe. Oh, Edgar Allen and. Po. No, Edgar Poe, the bird, the mascot. Yeah, we knew that. Yeah, congrats to. Jimmy's and Edgar Alan Po the Raven. Yeah, I think they just call him Edgar. Poe. I think they dropped the Allen. Oh,

see I thought Edgar got hurt and then. Allan and Po were the two replacement. Oh, remember they broke his leg. The one. that one had his broken do remember. that. Dancing too hard. I forget how. Kind of. I think so. I think his knee. blew up. I think his name is just Po. Just Po. Okay. So, Edgar. No, there was. Sorry, there was three of them. There. was Edgar, Allan, and Po. Yeah. And. Edgar. Yeah. After he broke the leg. Yep. Exactly. Which I don't like. Mhm. That's just That's the business. Allan. had a bad attitude. Always squawking. They all do. Yeah. And then Po now you. know AJ that's kind of the Did Allan I.

thought Allan or Po may have you know. the old was it who who was the old ice. skater that blasted somebody in the knee. with the Oh Jeff Galuli. Yeah Gali. Harden if you remember in 199 started. the franchise all three of them birthed. from eggs on the football field. That's. not a lie. I do remember that. Well, how. else would Ravens Yeah, that's kind of. Let's pivot away from the NFL. Works. Tony. Congrats to Derrick Henry and Po. signing back with Jimmy Seafood. Free. crab cakes for that bird. That's. probably a great move. Huge. Joining us. now, ladies and gentlemen, is a man who.

has more information from the baseball. world than anybody else we've ever spoke. to. He's a senior MLB insider at ESPN. And in my eyes, the voice of a. generation for an entire sport. Ladies. and gentlemen, he talks about baseball. for a living. We try to limit that, but. he's always great at it. Jet passes. How you doing, gentlemen? I have a. question for you. This is like a sincere. baseball guy trying to understand. football. Derrick Henry is ridiculously. good at his job. He touches the ball.

three to four times as often as wide. receivers. Why is Jamar Chase making $40. million a year and Derrick Henry is. guaranteed 12 and a half? So, there's. always a stigma about the running backs. today. Any play they can get hurt. because there's a lot of contact right. now. Granted, wide receivers have that. opportunity as well. Wide receivers also. normally bigger chunks whenever they're. getting the rock, especially if you're. electrifying. less electrifying uh wide. receivers than they think running backs. can be. Derrick Henry an anomaly at the. position, but that is just kind of how. the running back position has been.

viewed. And I'll tell you what, the. running backs were pissed about it two. years ago. They should be they were two. years ago. There was almost like they. have every right to be. It was created a. union. It was like they almost created a. union and almost did like a hold out. Like legit, this was a real thing two. years ago. Now Saquon signs a massive. deal. Derrick Henry just signs a massive. deal. I think they're coming back. around. But to your point, the running. backs were pissed about it just like two. years ago. They are. I'm I'm sorry, but. they do not provide half the value of. elite wide receivers. It just seems like. a clear market inefficiency in football.

And that's good journalism right there. by you. And now supply, demand, all that. [ __ ] will get put put into place. And. I'm sure teams will have a reason. Nonetheless, we're happy for Derrick. Henry. We agree. Probably deserves much. more money in our eyes if we were paying. him, we would do that. Let's talk about. somebody or somebody's that deserves. something and potentially have the. possibility to do it. Big news out of. the MLB yesterday. Pete Rose and Sholess. Joe Jackson are now allowed to be voted. into the Hall of Fame. I assume that all. the super baseball purist nerds and.

journalists who are the ones that making. all these decisions will hold all these. things against Pete Rose and Sholess Joe. Jackson even though they're available to. go into the Hall of Fame or how do you. expect this to go and what is the. narrative now that Pete Rose has passed. versus maybe when Pete Rose was still. alive about him potentially getting into. the Hall of Fame? yet. Pat, this is an. incredibly complicated issue. And let me. start off just with what the process is. going to look like. Uh if you don't make. it into the Hall of Fame uh after your.

career as a player, you go to what's. called the ERA committee and it's a. group of 16 people comprised of former. executives, Hall of Famers, as well as a. few journalists. Uh and they essentially. get to decide on a group of players. This past year, for example, uh Dave. Parker and Dick Allen, two guys who had. been overlooked by the writers, ended up. getting voted in by the ERA committee. Um w with the case of Pete Rose, though. especially it is just so complicated.

because you have all of these different. elements of his legacy bumping into each. other. As a player, Pete Rose is. unequivocally a Hall of Famer. 4,256. hits, the most in Major League Baseball. history, 20 plus seasons of just. incredible baseball. He was, you know, an otherworldly baseball player. He also. broke the cardinal sin of baseball, which is do not gamble on games in which. you are involved. Did so as a player and. a manager as well. uh was accused uh of.

statutory rape of a girl who in a sworn. statement said she was 14 or 15 at the. time when she had sex with Pete Rose. Uh. his retort to that was uh I thought she. was 16. The the interesting thing though. is going to be Major League Baseball and. and the Hall of Fame has a character. clause. uh you know, you look at the. players who are voted into the Hall of. Fame and it tends to be just based on.

numbers, but uh one of the elements that. people who are voting are supposed to. consider is the character of the person. involved. And because it is such a small. group of people, Pat, who are voting for. this, all it takes is five nos. You have. to get 75% to get in through the error. committee. All it takes is five people. who think that, you know, what Pete. Rose's moral objectionability was should. keep him out of the Hall of Fame. And. you know, he's never gotten the chance.

to get voted in. This is going to be his. first chance in December 2027 when the. ERA committee meets next. Okay. So, obviously all those things that were. being held against him for a long time. are notable and make a lot of sense. But. whenever you talk about artist art, that's kind of like the conversation, right? Because whenever it comes to the. sport itself, it's like Pete Rose is. Hembo sent over and Hembo is not for no. Pete Rose going in. I actually asked you. about that. I'm like, "Hey, do all you. baseball purist people feel the same way.

that Hembo feels, which is like Pete. Rose doesn't belong in the Hall of Fame, nor does Shoulless Joe Jackson." We'll. get to Shoulless Joe Jackson here in a. second because interesting story in 1919. about the potential mafia and what it. was like, what the rules were, and. everything like that. and a man who was. actually illiterate, I believe, is what. we learned into there or leaned about. But like the stats for Pete Rose as a. baseball player, like yeah, insane, right? I mean, all-time leader in hits, obviously, games played, played. appearances, and at bats, three World.

Series titles. I think he was only on. two losing teams in like 21 years or. something like that. His teams are 500. games over 500 whenever he was playing. The success rate that he had in the. playoffs versus the regular season was. higher. When you're talking about. seventh inning or later, you're talking. about a guy who performed better than. anybody at the plate, it's like in the. clutch time, he played his best ball. He. won a lot, but he obviously added some. ammo in the people that were against him. on a regular basis. I think a lot of. people that are fans of the sport are. like, "Hey, the best hitter of all time.

deserves to go into the Hall of Fame.". And I think the what people say is you. can't tell the story of baseball without. Pete Rose. That is kind of always the. angle. So maybe that'll get settled. Go. ahead. Let's go to uh shoeless Joe. Jackson now, shall we? Um that's the. Black Sock scandal I do believe of 1919. He was a part of it where a from my. understanding, this is just how it was. recanted to me and we tried to do some. research over like the last 12 hours or. whatever since this has all been. announced. Mafia gets a hold of a team. pretty much. Sounds like I think it was.

like seven guys on the team or something. like that. It wasn't just Shoulless Joe. Jackson. There was a lot of eight guys. on the team. Nine guys on the field, right? Okay. Okay, so Mafia gets a hold. of team and they end up whatever. colluding and throwing the World Series. is how the story is portrayed. In a. trial, they were acquitted, right, of. this all. Yes. But everybody from the. era says no, they all admitted to it. anyways. It was the trial was different. than what actually was the case. So this. is gambling on the game as well, but at.

a much broader stage in a negative. light. Pete Rose allegedly was only. betting on his teams to win and perform. well. The Black Sock scandal has always. been brought up because they were. working against their team to lose this. entire thing. 1919 is a long time ago. It's a much different era. What the. mafia was potentially able to do and say. and what narrative is real, what. narrative is not from them is tough in. 2025, not only for this story, but most. stories. How does this end up working. out you think for Sholess Joe Jackson? And what is kind of the overall thoughts.

on him and the Hall of Fame conversation. in general? Unlike Pete Rose patch, Shoulless Joe Jackson actually was on. the Hall of Fame ballot. He was on twice. and the first time in the 1930s, uh, I. believe he got two out of 226 votes and. the second time he was on in the 1940s, he got two out of 200 some odd votes. So, uh, you know, the writers back then. had the opportunity to induct Sholess. Joe Jackson and said absolutely not. But.

I, you know, all of this to me it's. really interesting because it's so much. of a modern story and what is acceptable. now or what we have grown to accept as. society and you know mainly like. gambling is an enormous part of sports. in 2025. It has been not just accepted. but embraced, commodified. Sports are going out and making money. hand over fist through gambling.

companies. And Major League Baseball for. the longest time tried to stay away from. gambling. Didn't move to Las Vegas. because of ties to gambling. Whoa. And Joe Jackson may have a chance. because uh societal norms have changed. and attitudes toward gambling have. changed. Is it as grievous a sin as it. once was? Unquestionably, it's not. perceived to be that way, but it's going. to be super interesting when this. committee gets together. I I would love. to be a fly on the wall in that room,

Pat, just to hear what the arguments are. from the people who are in that room. because the ERA committee tends to be. comprised of people who are older. um. you know, retired general managers and. presidents of baseball operations. Uh. Hall of Famers who are in their 60s and. 70s and grew up in the game hearing. there is one thing in baseball you. cannot do and that is gamble on the game. and writers who uh are either retired or.

toward the end of their careers. So you. have a group of people who may look at. what the societal norms are like right. now and reject them. Like it it is a. secret vote and a secret ballot as well. So we will never know who voted for. what. I don't think it is a fate of comp. plea that Pete Rose is going to be. elected to the Hall of Fame in December. 2027 for induction in summer 2028. I. don't think that's a guarantee at all. It's just a possibility now. When when. Fawn Rose, Pete's daughter, went and met.

with Rob Manfred in December, that's all. that they were looking for. I think they. they just wanted the chance. And Pete. himself had said in the past, you know, when I'm 6 feet under, I don't give a. damn if I get voted into the Hall of. Fame or not. But clearly, it's an. important thing to his family and that's. part of what Rob Manford heard during. his meeting with Fawn Rose. Give him an. opportunity to see if they want to vote. him in. Sounds like potentially not. first time, but maybe in the future. We. will be off Thursday, Friday due to the. PGA Championship. We will see you back.

here on ESPN on Overreaction Monday. Have the greatest four days of your. life. Okay, let's continue to talk. baseball here as we still continue uh. continue digitally here, which is it. sounds like the big hope for ESPN to. make the jump to in the future. Uh we've. been doing it for a while now. You know, open door policy on if have any. questions. So, um whatever you think. about gambling too. Yeah. all these. things. I mean, there is a lot of. things. Obviously, we're just a bunch of. doofuses. We get it. But as we continue. here digitally um on this glorious.

Wednesday, what did you say? Fata. complete. Fate accomply, which means. like a foregone conclusion or a. certainty that he goes in. Oh, Patrick. Yes. Context clues. Look at your ball. knowledge here. Love it. Yeah. Context. clues. Brother never read a book, so. I've had to always kind of pick up what. the hell smart people are saying around. me by what else is going on. But it. sounds like the Rose family obviously. wouldn't mind seeing their father get. honored for how good he could hit a. baseball and play baseball. And then.

Sholess Joe Jackson, that's got to be. what? Great grandkids now. Yeah. They. might not even know. That's got to be. like great great. 1919. You talk about all the things. societal norms now when it comes to. gambling and everything like that. How. about what we know now about what the. mafia did and how they treated people. and like the things they would say to. people to get things done. allegedly. built this country. in some cases. In some cases and I think. rock and roll was another big part of. it. I don't think the mafia utilized. rock and roll as much, but I do know.

rock and roll was part of building it. But it's like the documentaries we've. watched now on how the mafia used to. operate and how they used to be able to. go about getting things accomplished. It's like if that team was told like. which very easily could have happened in. Chicago. I mean, from everything that. we've learned like, hey, you either do. this or like and even given an example. of something, you would hope that there. would at least be a little bit of a. conversation, at least a little bit of. empathy for what potentially was. happening at the time, but I'm not a. voter. Never will be, thank God. Good.

luck to all of them. Let's talk about. the current state of baseball, shall we? Connor has a question for you, Jet. Yeah, Jet. Five walk-offs yesterday, three walk-off homers. Esso Peres, hope. I'm saying that right. Tatis Jr. And. then one I saw you tweeting about Jav. Bayz for the Tigers. Trey Sweeney tied. it up in extras and then Bayz hit his. second three-run homer, I believe, of. the game uh to win. Uh how big of a. surprise is this Tigers team, not just. Bayz, but are you surprised by the.

Tigers being, you know, the number one. team in baseball when it comes to. record? What is the Jav Bayz story? And. are they peaking too early or is this. one of those things where hey the Tigers. can keep this rolling for the entire. season? Connor, I was talking with somebody. yesterday about just how good the Tigers. can be. And I picked them to win the. American League Central this year. So. I'm not surprised that they are a good. team. I'm surprised that they're scoring. enough runs cuz I was looking at them as. like a team that was going to be led by.

its pitching and going to be led by AJ. Hinch who manages the bullpen just about. as well as anyone. But getting. production from Javier Bayz is something. that absolutely nobody expected. Like. let's remember when Jav Bayz came up, he. was an absolute wonder kid. Like the the. smoothest shorts stop you're ever going. to see. Like he made tags look cool. That's how smooth he was out there. But, uh, you know, he always had swing and. miss issues, got out of shape, uh,

signed for six years at 140 million with. the Tigers and had provided negative. value. Uh, it was at the point where. there were questions like, how long is. it going to be until Javier Bayz gets. cut by the Tigers and they just, you. know, sunk cost at this point. Let's get. rid of him and use the roster spot. but. he got into good shape this off season. and good enough where he's playing some. center field now after being an. infielder his entire career and uh the. resurgence of the bat is really the. shocking thing even you know when he was.

a little bit overweight and not looking. quite as good physically defensively he. was still pretty good but he he just has. this propensity to swing and miss a lot. and he does not have good play. discipline and uh if you're not making. contact you're not going to be able to. hit the ball well like it's pretty. simple thing. Now, that was just a bad. pitch. Um, just left the slider left. over right in the middle of the plate, but he took advantage of it and that's. what he's doing. He is hitting mistakes. this season. And I think you're going to.

see a lot more pitchers just start. working outside with him. Um, because he. he is the guy who will swing a pitch two. feet off the plate. But, uh, Javier Bayz. is beloved by Cubs fans for what he did. in the 2016 championship. And you know, Tigers fans are are learning to love him. a little bit after a couple of really. rough years. Three walk-off homers, ding-dongs last night. Obviously, that's. great for the sport. We have been. enjoying uh it more than I think any.

year in the past. Jet, you will be proud. of us. We talk about baseball more and. on a more regular basis than ever. And. that's because I think I think what's. happened in New York is potentially. historic. Go ahead, Ty. Yeah, Jet, do. you think I mean, is there any way Aaron. Judge can sustain the pace he's on? I. mean, I don't think anyone thinks he's. actually going to hit 400, but when you. look at the Yankees, obviously Paul. Goldmid's been very good. He's got the. second highest batting average in the. AL. And Trent Gisham has been one of. the, you know, best surprises, I think, not only to Yankees fans, but just the.

MLB in general. But with the I mean, it's kind of they they go as Judge goes, the Yankees do. Do you think he can. sustain the type of pace that he's been. on for the next several months or how do. you see that kind of Yankees? This is the best version of Aaron Judge. that we have ever seen which is saying. something for a guy who hit 62 home runs. back in 2022 and who hit 58 home runs. last year and who has the opportunity to. win three MVPs in four seasons. um his.

strikeout rate tie is down to under 21%. Uh he's hitting 410 right now. That's. not going to be sustainable. Um you. know, his average on balls in play at. this point is. 481 whereas his career average on balls. in play is a little bit closer to 350. So, we're going to see the batting. average go down. I don't think Aaron. Judge is a candidate to hit 400 and. maybe not even be a guy who's going to. hit 350, but uh the power is still there.

despite having more patience and despite. making more contact. And very rarely do. you see a guy who maintains the kind of. uh juice that he's got while lowering. his strikeout rate. We've seen it with. Pete Lonzo this year, too. It's the mark. of a good hitter. And Aaron Judge is not. just a good hitter. He is the best. hitter in baseball right now. There is. not a close second. Uh, and he is. putting up some of the best seasons. we've seen all time. Now, this year, if. Aaron Judge finishes with 11 plus wins.

above replacement, he's going to be the. third player in baseball history to do. that three times in four years. The. other two are Babe Ruth and Barry Bonds. Pretty good company to be keeping. Uh, yeah, I'd say. And he's bombing balls, too. It's not just like he's hitting for. average whenever Aaron Judge when he's. connecting on these things cuz he's such. a Goliath. Yeah, he doesn't hit any. cheapies. The balls are gone. That has. to be explosive baseball for the Yankees. fans to be watching. Obviously good in. that market. There's another market. that's gigantic with a superstar. Go.

ahead, Ty. Yeah, Jet uh Show, another. guy who over his last 10, he's been on. an absolute tear. He's really starting. to come into form. Uh we've talked about. this with you a couple of times in terms. of him potentially pitching. Obviously, Roki Sasaki, the guy they signed this. year out of Japan, he's going uh on the. IIL for a little bit and we we. continually see the videos of Shi, you. know, throwing off the bump and and. doing some bullpen sessions. Do you. think with the uh the Dodgers starting. pitching starting to get banged up a.

little bit that there's a chance we're. going to see Showi pitch maybe sometime. sooner than later? Nope. I don't think the Dodgers give a. damn about right now. And it's a weird. thing to hear, right? Like, uh, you. know, a bunch of guys going down with. injuries. Don't they want to bring him? No, they don't. Because the doctors care. about one thing, and that's October. That's when they want show Otani. healthy. And what they're trying not to. do is allow any concerns right now to.

get in the way of their ultimate goal, which takes discipline. and and which. very few teams guys uh if any have the. luxury that the Dodgers do. But part of. this luxury is also that they are really. good at developing starting pitchers and. they have like a room full of guys uh. whether it's in the bullpen or down at. Triple A who can be capable fillins. Uh. I I understand that there is a. temptation to want show Otani to come. back right now because we've seen him on.

the mound. He's awesome on the mound. like he's going to be really good when. he comes back, but at the end of the. day, they are more concerned with having. the best rotation that they can for the. postseason and not trying to rush guys. back at all. Uh because they figure, hey, we're going to be a playoff team. We're going to win enough games during. the regular season to make the. postseason and then the postseason, you. can see what the Death Star really looks. like. Do you think there So there's no. concern either with how good the NL West.

has been to start the year? I mean, they. have, you know, four of the best teams. in baseball already. Totally agree. No. concern whatsoever. And look, maybe. that's misguided. Maybe that's. misplaced. But in spite of all of the. injuries that they've had so far, the. Dodgers are still at the top of the. National League West. Um, Show has got a. little bit more sauce this year, a. little bit more comfortable in who he. is. Is that accurate or no? I don't think we're ever going to really. see who Show Otani is publicly. Right. here. Right here. Right here. Did we see.

it right here? whenever he answered the. bat flip to that guy. Yeah, I you know what I I think that's a. that's a fair way to put it. And and. here's Lordis Guriel looking down, chucking it up, doing the airplane. Uh I. I think that show Otani did that for his. teammates. And you know, you spend. enough time in a clubhouse, you win. enough with people and and maybe you do. become a little bit more like them. Maybe you do uh you know let it eat a. little bit to use a baseball term, but.

no, I don't think we're going to be. seeing show Otani doing cartwheels. around the bases anytime soon. I bet he. could do them though. Oh yeah. Did you. see that back flipping? Did you see that. New Japan. wrestler the I bet you I bet you all the. way up all the way up the uh the ramp. Yeah. Unbel How he hits his head off the. top rope there. He was probably very. Yeah. I mean that is impressive. That's. half an inch away from being. catastrophic there. I wonder if as he. hits his head while he's doing that back.

handsburg he's like oh no I completely. ruined this and it's watch. So obviously. he's a big boy too. Yeah, he's he's. thick right there. He hits his head off. the top rope. It's like damn that's so. close. And now once he's chasing you. You're in trouble. You better get out of. the way. I'm going to keep doing this. Bang. Kick to the head. That's. unbelievable. Yeah. We need this guy. needs to be uh obviously New Japan. gigantic wrestling uh promotion and a. historic promotion has created a lot of. magical wrestling moments and also. historic wrestlers as a whole. Uh.

especially getting a chance to go over. to Japan. The way they hold professional. wrestling in such high regard is such a. beautiful thing. But if we can get one. of those in Mania, oh man, if we get one. of those if we can get one of those. backhand spring pay kick thing fest long. ramp someone show long ratch stadium. That's at a football stadium. Uh, what'. you say? Joe Hendry. I said someone show. that to Joe Hendry now. Yeah, Joe needs. to get working on that. Joe needs to get. working on that. I wonder when his head. hits that top rope though if there's a. little bit of a Oh, I broke my neck and.

then and then he slips through and it's. like, "All right, we got magic still. We. got cuz that would scare the [ __ ] out of. me just as somebody who has potentially. slipped on the top. I mean, his head. hits the top rope there. Uh, maybe it. was part of I mean, that's an. unstoppable move, though, you know, cuz. once he gets rolling, especially if. you're in his sights, you you got no. [ __ ] I don't know. That seems very. stoppable. Can't you just stand there. and kick him when he's like like kick. one of his arms? What? You ever see.

those things that uh what they hypnotize. you with? You know, pendant deal. What? Yeah. You You're telling me you don't. see that guy hit all those? You don't. get kind of kind of like Oh, I stepped. to the side and kick his arm out. Oh, you've never been. Only thing stopping. that guy is a gun. Big gun. That's probably right. And it's. going to be a multi-shooter. It's going. to have to be You're going to need a few. of those things cuz he's going to What. they don't show there is if you step it. aside like you're implying. So simple,

Jen. Jeez Louise. He'd actually boom on. his hands. Yep. He can redirect that. thing. We only got to see it go straight. cuz that guy was right in his sight. If. he was doing the alligator walk or the. zigzag walk that we learned whenever the. DC sniper was kind of out and about as a. child, I think he would have been able. to adapt that thing back and forth if he. needed to. You didn't let him showcase. his trap. Bang. And he gets you a shin. to the top of the head. You're done. And. also his back hurts. You know, I don't. know. He's selling his back. Exactly. So.

just got kicked in the head missile. I. mean, you got to time it right. and. either, you know, hopefully you can get. his his legs in in the amount of time. where you can hit a sharpshooter or a. Boston crab. Yeah, exactly. That's. that's really all you're looking for. Yeah. You got to you got to be like, "Show." Yeah. Got to be a golden arms. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Not just one glove. You need both of those things to be able. to Yep. I think we could try. We should give. that a go. Bone. bone. Need you to do the back handspring. party thing. need you to need.

springboard backhand spring party. Bill, catch him if he doesn't. Yeah, Bill, you're the target at the end of this. thing. We'll get it figured out. We'll. get it worked out. All right. Uh AJ has. a question for you about pitching. So, show's not going to pitch is what you. just said. He's not going to pitch right. now. He will pitch this year. Yes. Whoa. When? Like playoffs or when? Uh, this is purely a guess, but I think. in order to get him built back up, because let's remember, guys coming back.

from reconstructive elbow surgery, they. will usually go down to the minor. leagues to do, you know, four or five. rehab starts just to get the feel of the. mound back in games that don't count. Uh, show can't do that. So, it's going. to be like right out there for him. And. I my guess in order to get him built up. to start deep into the playoffs, it. seems like August is probably the right. time. But the Dodgers haven't said. anything to this point. So this is this. is not this is not news. This is.

informed speculation. Okay. I like that. out of you though, cuz I think there for. a while was like, we don't think so. There's no reason to do it. Now there's. a chance we're going to see show back on. the bump. Go and get it, show, go on, show 101, brother. We can't I can't wait. to watch. Go ahead, AJ. All right, buddy. Yeah, Jet, staying on the. Dodgers. I believe what Clayton Kershaw. is coming back Saturday and uh, you. know, for his 18th season. What do What. do you expect from him and what do you. think the Dodgers expect from him? Clayton Kershaw's consistency, AJ, is. just remarkable. Like, the guy has.

legitimately never had a bad season. and. to play at that like hall of fame. caliber level even when his stuff isn't. what it used to be even when you know he. he mainly throws two pitches his. fastball and a slider and there are. times when the separation of velocity is. so small that it's tough to distinguish. those two from each other and yet it. still works for him and it works for him. cuz he has always thrown the ball over. the plate uh never walks guys manages to.

get strikeouts still by getting swings. and misses in the zone and having this. exceptional command. And like I'll be. honest, I was on the uh I was on the. field with him after the Dodgers won the. World Series last year. And you know, I've known Clayton since I met him when. he was 19 and was in double A. And I. went down to uh went down to Alabama. where he was playing a game. And I. wanted to write a story about what's it. like to be like this prospect who's. can't miss. Like what are the pressures?

What's the expectation? How do you how. do you rear a prospect properly? And uh. all he's done his entire career is prove. that like he was ready for the moment. and and so this was like the perfect cap. last year during the World Series. I was. like, "Dude, you're done, right?" He's. like, "No, I think I want to come back.". And and I give him a lot of credit. Like. the man's body hurts. Like he has had. back issues. He has had arm issues. And. yet I he understands Clayton's a smart.

guy. He understands when you're an. athlete, you get one chance. Get one. chance to have a career and once it's. done, like you can never match that. I I. mean, I'm talking to two people right. now who understand that as well as. anyone. Like there is nothing like being. out there on the field. And I think he. wants to keep that going as long as he. can. His kids are still young and he. wants them to have those moments and. those opportunities to see what it's. like when their dad looks like a. superhero. I understand that and um I.

respect that and I like the fact that. you know you don't know how many more. you got. So if you're getting an. opportunity to go again, why not take. it? You know, there's other people who. have the idea of I'm going to go out on. top and always think like people will. think and remember me at my absolute. best. I don't mind that either. I'm a. guy that retired after a Pro Bowl, you. know, and I think a lot of people just. assumed for like the next five, six. years, hey, you want to teams will reach. out, hey, we remember you from 5 years. ago being able to do your job. you think. you still got it. It's like in my mind, I know I probably don't, but the the.

last memory is good. I think then some. guys just we're going till the wheels. fall off. And I respect both ideas and. both theories because people have. committed their entire lives to these. sports. It's not easy just to [ __ ]. turn the lights off. Uh take take from. your career what you want from it. And. Clayton Kershaw was a guy who didn't. grow up with a whole lot, you know, a. single mom. um was raised in Highland. Park which is very affluent area of.

Dallas. He did not have a whole lot of. money but uh Maryanne Kershaw wanted to. send him to great schools and so that's. where they landed and went to went to. high school with Matt Stafford and both. of them have had pretty incredible. careers. Pretty good ball throwers. Yeah, pretty good ball throwers there. Um, okay. Speaking of good ball. throwers, let's talk about one that's. uh representing city Pittsburgh and also. our great country. Go ahead, Tone. Yeah, more importantly, our great country. Uh. Paul Ske is going to play for team USA.

Um, he's finally going to get a chance. to pitch for a team that has a chance to. win. How happy do you think he uh is doing. this? Um, and I just want to throw a. fact out there. I don't know if you guys. have known this yet. uh 19 straight. games where the Pirates have scored four. or less runs. Um that's never been done, I don't think. So, are we happy for. Paul? How happy do you think he is for. this opportunity? Uh he's elated because Paul Sch might be. the most actually patriotic ball player.

that I've ever met. Like, you know, there are people who wear the flag and. and wave it, but Paul Sch actually lived. it. Like, he was gonna be a fighter. pilot. He went to the Air Force Academy. like that man loves America and the. opportunity to represent the United. States I think is a big deal for him, but it's a bigger deal for the World. Baseball Classic because you guys. remember like I I came on the show last. time the World Baseball Classic was. around and it was awesome. Like that. that tournament was phenomenal from.

start to finish. But the thing that Team. USA in particular has always been. missing is top end starting pitchers. Uh. it's held at the time of year when guys. are still trying to ramp up and where. guys, you know, like arm care is a. really hard thing and you don't want to, you know, you don't want to get hurt in. what essentially is an exhibition game. But uh the the truth is to Paul Ke, these are going to be the most. competitive games as long as he's a.

Pittsburgh Pirate that he plays before. he reaches free agency. What's. happening? So, so we got him for what, another six years or something in. Pittsburgh and then like what is the. reality? What is the reality of this. situation? LSU is calling him America's. Ace. Obviously, he had great success in. LSU down to Bayou. He found love and a. championship and I think he figured out, you know, what he could possibly be as. baseball player. He comes here to. Indianapolis, this place filled up for. him every single time he was on the. mound. We went and watched him the night. before big night out in Pittsburgh. There's 2,200 people in the stands and.

you know like and I know Paul Ske has to. be a professional and he has to go out. and do his job. It's not about who's all. there, who's not all there, but it feels. like he's a competitor. Feels like he. he's a guy who understands who he is. And I think even as a guy who, you know, loves to represent Pittsburgh, I do. I I. am very proud of the fact that I'm from. there. It's like we watched that stadium. that night and it was like this dude. deserves better than this. This dude. deserves to be in massive. What is the. reality future uh realistic future of.

Paul Skins in his baseball career? Like. the Pirates can trade him at any time. Is that accurate? And yes, let's let's. let's start here, Pat. Uh it's not just. Paul Skins who deserves better. It's. Pittsburgh Pirates fans concur. Deserve. better and and they they deserve. uh a. system that allows teams to keep great. players. right now. In some. cases, guys will stay with small market.

teams. We've seen that. Bobby Whit Jr. signed for 11 years and 28, you know, $288 million with the Kansas City. Royals. We saw Joe Mau stick around in. Minnesota. Like there there are plenty. of instances where guys will stay with. smaller market teams. But what incentive. does Paul Sches have to extend with the. Pirates when the Pirates haven't shown. the willingness uh from either Bob. nodding all the way down or the ability. uh to bring in guys who are going to.

make this team better. Uh that the. Pirates haven't shown that they are. worthy of a Paul Skins extension at this. point. And so what it comes down to is. the Pirates, including 2025, have 5. years of club control before he reaches. free agency. If they believe that they. have absolutely no chance of signing. him, uh then they should trade him. And. and you can make the argument that they. should trade him now. I I'm not going to.

because I think the Pirates with some of. the players that they have coming up, they would have a chance to win if they. were to go out and actually bring in. some offensive players and sign some. free agents. Uh but the truth is like. there there are teams that already are. going to ask about Paul Sches at the. trade deadline this year. Uh, and I. don't anticipate that he's going to be. moved, but there's a real argument to be. made that the best thing for the. Pittsburgh Pirates would be to move Paul. Sch when he has his most value. And it's.

a it's like it's a depressing reality. I. get it. We literally have the next Paul. Ski, too. So, I mean, I told you about. Bubba. Bubba's good, man. Like, Bubba. can play and and Bubba Chandler is going. to be up at some point soon. And when he. is and if Jared Jones gets healthy, you. have a rotation of Paul Sch, Jared. Jones, Bubba Chandler, Mitch Keller, Hunter Baros coming like. I mean it's it's really it's a really. really good potential rotation, one that.

should be able to contend. Uh there's. just not enough help there from the top. Well, hopefully he wins in the World. Baseball Classic for United States of. America. Amen. I saw him wear he was. wearing the United States of America. headband uh hair hair thing. Yep. When. he was being asked about the manager. being fired and he was like we're 12 and. 40 dude. So it sucks that it's him. We liked him. but we somebody was going to get fired. We kind of understand that everything. going on around Pirates not great. No.

Even the security out there. Yeah. Yeah. That that kid didn't die though. That. was good. That was good. Said he put. some ice on. it. He said he put some ice on that. fight. though. Yeah, defin not kind of. I mean, yeah, I don't know if the. Pirates will win that fight. Yeah, it. sounds like that fight is not over. It. feels like that fight's going to. continue. Uh Jet, we appreciate the hell. out of you for joining us. Go baseball. Go baseball. Go baseball. Exactly. It's. You know what, Pat, it's been a good. season. Conor just laughed. Connor just. laughed about your go baseball there. I. don't know why he did that. I did not.

It's not that. It wasn't that for sure. It wasn't that. I don't like that at. all. Conor, why do you have to be a. dude? I knew I knew why. This is why I. said it wasn't me cuz I don't want to I. don't want to light this fire. Chad, I'm. going to be on let you fly in the sun. Okay. Everything's good. It's Wednesday. We got a 4 day weekend coming up. South. is fur coat on. Yeah. Come on. Just let. me live. Let him live. Good for. baseball. Good for baseball right now. though. Yep. Go baseball. Go you. Ladies. and. gentlemen, are you an insider, pundit,

analyst? What is your title? All the. above. Whatever you want to call me, Patrick. Author, the baseball man. Yeah. New York Times bestseller. Ladies and. gentlemen, jet pass. Jet. Why'd you laugh in the guy's face? Let's run it back. Let's run it back right now. He's been. hanging out with Tim Kirk a little too. much. Run it back right now. Play it. back. It's all No, we all heard it. Yeah, we all heard it. We all heard it. Yeah, I heard that. It was a little bit. of his Elmo impression creeping in. He.

does have a good Elmo impression. He. does good. But I think he was excited. Greatest baby. He was excited for. baseball. He is. Which is understandable. cuz it as a baseball hater I am even. very much into it. Three walk-offs last. night. Nice. Five. Yeah. Three walkoff. homers. Five walk-offs in total. I. thought it was 3-2. Oh, so there was. like a single or something like that. Yep. Yeah. Two rounds. Three walk-off. dingers. Yes. Good for baseball. Awesome. I mean, I'm not watching the. entire game to get to that moment. Sure. I'll watch the clip and I'll say.

baseball. Yeah. Mhm. You know, like I. watched the uh Jav uh from Detroit. Jav. Bay. Yep. That sound when that thing. awesome. And then that place going. crazy. The best. I didn't know you guys. were filling up for the Tigers. It. looked like there was a lot of people. there. Yeah. People are so excited. The. Tigers are good at baseball again. And. like Jet nailed it. Jav Bayz. legitimately was one of the most hated. Detroit athletes I've ever seen in my. lifetime because they gave him all that. money. He gave piss poor effort. He was. kind of a shitbird. And now he's playing. great baseball. Everyone's apologizing.

everyone loves him and he hits the. walk-off. It's awesome when Detroit. sports are good. We just need the Red. Wings to kind of get on board here. because we're all making the playoffs. right now except for them. Uh we have a. couple updates uh from today's program. Uh there's also some schedules and games. being leaked as we round up this. glorious Wednesday. AQ Shipley told me. um that he blames the photographer or uh. the cheeseburgers. He said he was in a. cheeseburger era uh when his big gut was. sticking out. Understandable. Also could.

have been the photographer though, AJ. That is something trying to get him that. like that photographer takes that. picture straight on. Probably not as. devastating. Slips to the side there. We. can go ahead and get this thing Eddie. Lacy got screwed by this too. Remember. when Eddie Lacy got screwed by this? Oh. yeah, definitely. Definitely not. That. was the angle. Yeah, definitely blame. the photographer. Uh yeah, we should. always. AQ's exact Texas that [ __ ] pick. Come. on. I blame the photographer or the. cheeseburger. Okay. Okay. So, shout out. to him. Um, we have some games that have.

been leaked while we've been live. Remember, schedule releases this. evening. This is the social media team, the digital team Olympics around the. NFL. People are starting to hint at what. their videos are going to be. Pittsburgh. Steelers have some of the boys acting. out there. Laurel Highlands, I think. Yeah, it looks like they're acting out. there. Um, you know, Steelers, Packers, those franchises, don't expect much from. uh from them tonight. They're going to. do their best. They're going to try. hard, but you know, this is we're about. getting wins out here, uh, during the. football season, not so much, uh, in May.

for the schedule release. That that's. for the Chargers, Panthers, teams, teams. like that. You know, that's how that. goes. Uh, so, uh, Ari has a bunch of. tweets, uh, that he has put out. Shout. out to Ari at my sports update. NFL. schedule week, the full week one prime. time schedule. Uh, Thursday night is. obviously Cowboys at Eagles. That's. banner night in Philadelphia. The last. banner night Philadelphia had, Philadelphia Eagles fans were booing. them at halftime. You remember that? You. remember that? Just a few years back. We. That could be anything that could happen. there. And then Chiefs at Chargers, uh,

Friday Night in Brazil. Once again, that's been kind of alluded to numerous. times. That'll also be streaming live on. YouTube. Yeah. YouTube TV, but also on. YouTube. That number is going to be. [ __ ] insane. If it is streaming just. on YouTube like uh we are. And we have. exclusive. Okay. Wow. Yeah. It is going. to be I think it's on YouTube TV and on. YouTube. Uh, but the YouTube number is. going to be [ __ ] absurd. Uh, just. because the way that they can position. that obviously on their website is just. basically anybody on Google is.

potentially going to be watching that. The concurrent is going to be. record-breaking. And uh, congrats to the. NFL holding another record, which is. going to be in front of everybody's. eyes. And shout out to the Chiefs being. a part of opening night or opening. Friday night yet again. Ravens at Bills. on Sunday Night Football. Love that. game. Love everything about that. And. then Vikings at Bears on Monday Night. Football. A lot of hope and expectation. for the Bears to be good this year. Let's hope that that is the case. And we. have a banger of prime time throughout.

week one there. Yeah. Another one that. was uh tweeted about that I believe was. from Sher was uh Chiefs Cowboys on. Thanksgiving as well. That is another. that has been locked in. Okay. Chiefs. Cowboys on Thanks uh giving then Chiefs. are on Christmas against the Broncos. So. they got opening Friday night. They're. on Thanksgiving. They're on Christmas. You do some math. Christmas is the 25th. That's a Thursday. What's New Year's. Day? I The Thursday, right? Yeah. The. first. So, how many days is that apart.

there? Seven days. I assume they're. going to be on New Year's Day as well. I. assume the Chiefs are doing the gamut. here. Yeah. And they want they want. Christmas was the conversation last year. like, "Hey, we want to be the Christmas. Day game." Hey, good news. They got it. Yeah, they did. They they they got. Christmas coming right down the pipe. They're the perfect color for it. Yeah. and Chiefs Kingdom is obviously a. perfect home for it because they're. always going to show up and be big and. is perfect for it. It's like uh I'm. excited for that. Here's some other. games that have already been announced.

uh across the schedule across the board. and obviously we will learn more as we. go. A lot of international games this. year. That's only going to continue to. go up if you listen to Roger Goodell. talk. Going to try to travel to more. places. Go ahead, Tone. Uh believe it's. I mean not officially officially. confirmed but 99% uh Steelers will be. going to the Jets week one. So you can. almost guarantee now that Aaron's going. to sign just for Spike week one. Yeah. Well maybe or just to spite the schedule. makers he doesn't. Yeah. You know he. could take this both ways here. True. Oh.

you think it's Steelers Jets week? Oh. isn't that cute? Justin Fields against. the Steelers. Me against the Jets. Okay. that's cute. Okay. Yeah he he might. sound weak too. I think I'm busy that. week. There's a chance. Oh yeah, AJ I. you would know more than us. There's a. chance that because they scheduled that. he goes, "What am I a [ __ ] puppet? What is this?" Yeah. In there. Possible. Yeah. Yeah. He signs like two hours. after that game ends. Yeah. There's a. possibility. Yeah. They need me. That. would be awesome. I saw a video with him and Mike Stud.

Saw that too. Living good. Looks like. he's happy. That's good for uh hitting. jump hook. He loves that jump hook. three. He's doing that. He tries it a. few times in this video. This video is. from a few months ago. Yeah, it's older. It's from Mike St's documentary that he. released. Oh. Oh, nice court. It's like a TBT. Got a good. golf. Got a good golf setup, too. Mhm. I. saw Aaron with the hands, you know, with. the hands coming out of the pocket. No. Yeah, it was a little chipper. It was. just a little chipper figure. Mike Ste, former college baseball player, turned.

into a rapper, pop uh musician, and. philosophizer, I believe. Oh, yeah. Right. I believe he is a philosophizer. Has pocket. Good murder. Did he make one? Did he. make one of these shots? He makes one. Yeah. Mike stud putting himself over. Smart right in Aaron's face. Good luck. stopping that. Yeah. Walk it off. Three straight. Looks. like he's in great shape. Looks like. he's living good. Yeah, that's from. months ago. He saw him at the derby a.

couple weeks ago. Looked good. Looked. like he was happy and in great shape. Excited to see what he does this year. OTAAS are about to start happening. Obviously, the schedule's being released. tonight. It's a great time to be alive. The PGA Championship starts tomorrow. here. It's going to be good. Come on. People. are to people's opinion of the course. are torn, right? Either way, either they. really love it or they don't love it as. much. Well, isn't the PGA Championship. always the one or is that the US Open? US Open. US Open is the one that always. makes really hard. They're not happy. because Quail Hollow is um a PJ tour.

event. This year it's not, but normally. it is a they play a PJ tour event at. Quail Hollow. A lot of people think that. a major shouldn't be played at a course. where there's always an event at. Okay, got it. Because too many people know the. course. Bingo. Um, I appreciate that. We. got a little heads up from old uh Keith. Mitchell in his chest hair. Yep. Sloppy. course. Mhm. Greens dry though. They got. something under the greens. Keep the. greens dry. Yeah. It can suck it can. suck the water out of the greens, right?

Make it faster. Yeah. So the greens fast. fairway everywhere else very slow. So, the high ball hitters, the high the guys. who hit it high in far are going to be. the ones that have an advantage. Tone. actually looked up a stat. He sent it. into the group. There's 11 guys that. have like a high ball hitting uh apex. 180 m plus and then 110 110 ft apex I. believe was what it was. Yeah, you sent. it into the group. Hopefully, you're. able to pull it up. Yeah, Tone, I can't. read this because of how small it all is. and I don't think we'll be able to. Bryson Dshambo is at the top of hitting.

the ball high and far. Minu Lee who's a. dog obviously. Rory Mroyy's in the. group. Gary Woodland, Windham Clark, David Pig. Oh, Michael Thorberry. Thornberry. Brookie, that's not his name. You were. nowhere near it. It was close. You were. nowhere near it. Got the first four. right. How do they know this about. Bryson and Brooks, though? We haven't. seen him golf. It's a good question. I I. know Bryson hits a high ball because I. saw him hit over his house. Yeah. Yeah, he does. Yep. I don't think David Pig's gonna win. I'm.

gonna go out on a limb and say that. I'm. kind of with you on that one. Okay. All. right. That's that's my kind of big pick. to click for the weekend cuz if you saw. this and you're thinking, you know what? Yeah, it's time. I'm going to [ __ ]. lay a little money on David Pig. Save. save those shekels for, you know, a. different event. But this list could. cement, you know, Bryson, Rory, Brooks, if you wanted. Yeah. Lvig. Kaiser. He's about to have a big 2025. Yeah. How about this? I tweeted that uh.

Sydney Crosby should play for America, you know. Yeah. Yeah. Uhhuh. Everybody. was really rational with that response. Yeah, Canadians love it. Yeah, I figured. that Americans too for basically. American now. I mean, how long? 20. years. But he's doing Sydney Crosby [ __ ]. at this World Games. What is this. called? Uh Nick, the World. Championships. Boom. World Games. And. look, P, you're a child goalie. The. other day it was Latafia guy punching. his [ __ ] bucket off. They're up 72. now. It's a triple de shot. How you.

doing? Up over the goalie's shoulder. These guys that are playing in this game. had no idea Sydney Crosby was going to. be popping into this thing. They had no. [ __ ] clue. Who's playing for Canada? Sydney Crosby's playing. No way. What's. that going to be like? Well, kid, see you. That's what it's like. You'll see that goalie is going to have. nightmares at that [ __ ] rest. I mean, the puck was just going, so I didn't. know where I was. What is this guy? He's. fighting guys, doing the whole thing. And I tweeted, "I still think he should. be playing for America, but nonetheless, Sid's doing Sid shit." The reaction has.

been hilarious. You [ __ ] idiot. How'd. this [ __ ] get his own show while we. [ __ ] build it, [ __ ] How about that? That's how you get it. And with that. being said, he's lived in Pittsburgh. longer than he lived in Canada. This. guy's a. Yinszer, and I know he's the greatest. international player in the history of. hockey. I think his record with the. Canadian team is like the best record in. the history of any sport playing for. their international team. I think he. only has like two losses or something. Two or three losses. I forget what it.

was. It was like what was the number. like 28 and two or something like that? I forget. Yeah, it's something absurd. like that. I mean he's won the two. Olympics. He's won two gold medals. So. he's he's captain. Canada. He's got a Gzer accent. Well, obviously I actually he does not somehow. cuz remember at big night I was hoping. there would be a little bit of a he was. faking, but I I mentioned to him about. how he plays for America next time and. uh yeah, he reacted in the same exact. way as an irrational human being was. Don't think that's possible, but people. on the internet read that. Surprised.

this piece of [ __ ] It's like what? All. right, dude. Irrational think coach. Would he ever coach? Cuz he is so into. hockey. I don't know what his life will. be like when he's not playing hockey. That's a good question. He said he's. gonna play for a couple more years at. Big Night Out. Um GM maybe. Yeah, I'd. see him more as a executive than Mario. Like Mario Lemieu. Yeah, like ownership. Eisermanman. What a player, dude. He was. so He's so good. He's healthy. He played. so good this year. So good. It's like. SK's playing so good. It's all right.

They'll be back. Pens at some point. Dubis. Dubis is going to get it done. Cold call. Don't say what you're going. to say. Yeah. What I'm going to say, Dubis is going to get and don't add an M. to it either. Pump Diss. Yeah. Get Get. it done with the toilet. Maybe. That's. what he said to me after the show. He. goes, "Oh, I should have added an M to. it." Yeah. Instead of flipping the B to. a P. I thought that's where you were. headed. That's why it was good. Curveball. Do piss. I don't even know. what N you guys are talking about. M. M.

Dumb. Mubis. What? All right. I can't believe us. idiots go on show. That's a good call. Get in. I love throwing tennis balls. That was the best. They're the best. For. real. Do you hard? It was a little It. was a little That's a tough one. There's. nothing like a tennis ball with a. baseball bat. Yep. Bonus. Boom. Couldn't see it on camera. Whatever. Went in a trash can. D. Yeah, we saw it. Get tempted to throw. something away in that trash can. Those.

trash cans on a regular basis. Thunder. Buckets is dead. No, it's not. Once the. Once the Once the ring leaves, we'll. play again. Thunder Buckets is a dead. game here. We knew it had a chance. Once. the ring's gone, it'll play again. Guy's shoulders a little sore. Yeah, imagine. No, bonus ball. A deep bicep contusion, too. So, I got a So, this is the thing.

You just got to acknowledge what you are. and then play it. It's like people have. a slice who just say, "No, I'm going to. hit it straight." No, you're not. Okay. [ __ ] look left. Yeah. It'll come. back. No, I'm going to hit it straight. then if I do that. Okay. Well, if you. hit it straight, then the next time we. aim straight down the middle. This time. I'm going to have to aim I'm just going. to aim past the hoop. Yeah. Yeah. Aim. higher. Aim higher. I don't You aim. high. Mhm. Shoot higher. I don't know if. I aim high. Shoot higher. Watch. You'll.

see. Shoot. Just shoot it a little. higher. There it. is. I mean that I mean that much high. I. didn't know it was going. You went under. before. You went way high. Not that much. high. You went under before. I didn't know you. had that in the basket. Listen, massive. giveaway happening right now. Oh, that's. right. Okay. I have a Topps card. It is. awesome. This is a card that I'm not a. big card guy. Not a big card. was never.

really given a football card, just to be. clear. Never really uh afforded the. opportunity to have a football card. Felt weird to me that was never offered, but it really never was. I think there's. a few of them out there. I'm not really. a big card collector guy, but there are. a few in the office that are card. collectors. This one looks sweet. This. is one that my wife has already. purchased. I would like to keep one. These are only available, I think, for. the next 48 hours or so. This is. available. We have a uh QR code here. Boom. That'll take it right there. Right. now, if you take a screenshot of your.

purchase of a five-pack of this. particular card, post it on X and use #. TOPS McAfee, you could enter for a. random drawing that we'll do for 20. winners, and I'll sign 20 of them. And. then we'll send them out to I think that. that means something in the card world. Uh I don't really understand the card. gimmick as much, but I do appreciate the. fact that that one's sweet. And uh we. bought 40 of them here. We'll sign 20 of. them, 20 random winners. All you got to. do is # topsmack McAfee and post a. picture of your purchase of a five pack.

Maybe we'll give away 30. This goes in. Okay. Kraken. packs. Aim high. Aim high. You got a. money. All right. 20 of them is all you. get. #opsmack. We appreciate you all so much. And shout out to Tops for doing this. It. looks cool. That's sick. Who took the. picture? I mean, what a great picture. Yeah. I don't know. Randy Johnson. Yeah. Could have been Ken Griffy. Ken Griffy. Jr. Huh? Could have been Ty Street. I don't. know if you guys Drew Carey. Are we just naming people now? No, he.

does that. He's a He's a big. photographer guy. Seattle. Could have. been Tim McAfee. Tim McAfee. Could have. been Oh, he wasn't there, but he's got a. good camera. Yeah. Good timing. Thanks, Topps for making. that. Shout out. And shout out to you if. you purchase it. All you do is post a. picture of a five-pack and you could. potentially be one of 20 winners of an. autograph card. #TOPS McAfee. All right, you guys have a. great weekend. Watch PJ Championship. We. will be. We'll be enjoying time with our. families. We'll be enjoying the life of.

a sports fan and we'll be back for every. action Monday going crazy. Will the. Celtics still be in it? Oh, or will it. be over? How about in the West? Will. there be a clearer picture on who is. going to be taking on the Pacers in the. NBA. finals? I don't want to get ahead of. myself. I don't need to do that. I've. just been saying since January they're. the best team in the NBA. Now they're in. the Eastern Conference Finals. They're. making me look really good. I appreciate. them doing that. Looks like I know ball, AJ, doesn't it? You do. You do know. ball.

People would also know ball if they were. able to watch the Pacers. Yeah. Like I. think that is Well, they weren't really. on TV ever. NBA's doing a good job of. keeping them away from us. I think it. has been like a shell game somehow. Jam. Uh they're playing the number one seed. in the East. Yeah, but how can we uh We. got to put it on Turner. Do True TV. Actually, ECF is only on Roku this year. Not getting into it. Not getting into. it. A lot of people have Roku. I agree. Really? I have Roku. Do you really? My.

TV came with it. It's an app on there, right? Yeah. I've never used it, but. there was a thing you used to plug into. the side of the TV back in the day, right? Mhm. Hundreds of millions. Hundreds of millions. Those are fire. sticks. I've heard Roku has the sticks. as well. I don't think so. I've heard. Roku. Oh, yeah. They do. Nothing. What? I've I've heard Roku is just like a. nothing burger like No, I've seen it as. R. Nah, that could be said that some. circles do say that. Con man. Yeah, the. circles I I have frequented say like. Roku what what is on Roku? Joker. Well,

no. I like I know a lot of people have. the Roku stick. I have never met a. person who actually like you get the. Roku stick and then you you watch. Netflix. You watch stuff that you don't. I've never That's what I thought it was. That's honestly all I thought it was. downloading the Roku app and kind of. we're learning of Roku here over the. last couple days. Yeah, it's a good. product. I have the sticks, but I use it. to watch YouTube and Netflix on the TV. that you don't isn't a normal like I did. that back in the day before the TV had. it on there. Fire. Yeah. And I actually. haven't heard it's a good product. I've.

just Oh, you haven't? No, I've just. heard saying that. I I We don't know. much. No, I don't know. We don't know. enough about it. Hundreds of millions. Makes sense. All right. Sticks for AJ, you're the man. Have a great weekend. with all the kids. You too. Happy. birthday, Axel. Oh, yeah. His birthday. was yesterday. Yeah. Appreciate it. Thank you. He He doesn't look like your. kid at all. Thank you. Your kids all. look like your kids. Yeah. Like. they are AJ. I'm too close. I'm too.

close to it. I don't know. Did you know. Axel's middle names after Chris Jericho? I had no idea. Axel Jericho. Yeah. Yeah. for Y2J. You guys were Well, you know, I. mean, if Chris Jericho is in the room, then yes, it is absolutely for Chris. Jericho. Chris Jericho is not in the. room currently. Let's say he's listening. though. What What would it be for the I. mean, just cuz it's sweet from biblical. all that. And we want to make him AJ Jr. I mean, he's not AJ Jr., but his. initials are the same. Yeah, but. wouldn't that have to be Aaron James?

Cuz that's what you are to be a junior. Like officially a junior, but there's no. rules when it comes to names. You can do. whatever the hell you want. Call him. Deuce. We should call him Deuce. We ever. think about calling Axel Deuce? Axel. good name. I don't know why you want to. get rid of Yeah, I think the the same. name thing has isn't that the first and. the seconds versus juniors or the first. Yeah, but like Clay So Klay Matthews, he. is he wasn't the firstborn son, but he. is his dad. He is like the third. The. third. Yeah, Klay Matthews. Congrats to. Clay by the way, signing with Boston. I. believe he's going to be doing some more. media stuff. Like to see that kind of.

presidential promo at the draft. That. was awesome. Right there in Green Bay. was hilarious. How a letter. Yeah. The. Bears song. place went apeshit. Yeah, they did. Green Bay was a great host. It was. Will. Pittsburgh be the same? I think so. Yeah, they already got the countdown. clock up. So, where are they putting it. at? Do you know the countdown clock is. at the point? Um I know they're doing a. huge project to renovate that this this. year. So, I don't know if that's where. it's at. I don't know if there's enough. room there, but not counting down to the. season. Already looking ahead.

They're hosting an event for the NFL. It's kind of weird. They're hosting an. event for the NFL for nine Sundays. Yeah, they they have a countdown to the. season. Figure they Everybody's brain. already knows what it is. I haven't. heard about that. They get in their car. DV tells them we got this many Sundays. until [ __ ] Pittsburgh Steeler Sunday. That's what they say. I hope the 2026. NFL draft is still being finalized. The. main portion of the event is expected to. incorporate elements of Pittsburgh's. Northshore and Point State Park as well. as Acer Stadium with a variety of venues. to be utilized and activated within.

close proximity. All right. If they do. go down there at a point where the. stadium is kind of across the river. there, that would be pretty nice. Yeah. I mean, there's a lot of there's a lot. of views, a lot of areas that you can do. it in. A lot of huge like I think people. are going to look like you're packed in. there. Yeah. Yeah. Getting in and out of. there is going to be fun. I'm a little. worried about You need a boat. It's. pretty compact. Everything's pretty. compact down there. Yeah. I'm a little. worried about day two, day three. People. still having the excitement to to do all.

the [ __ ] to get there, you know? Why isn't it in the southside? There's. no room over here. Come on. They should. just shut down the Southside. They. should just shut that [ __ ] down. Should do it to Coach Dick's pool. Yeah, you're talking about That's an idea. Paradise Dig. Yeah, exactly. Something. to think about. Could fill that up. I. know. It's a big pool. Fill it up right. now. Of course, Coach Digs is in here. How's the weather where you guys are? Uh, it's been raining a ton, but it's if. it's not raining, it's very humid. It. was coming down this morning. Shite.

coming. Also, this is gonna be a. shocker. Coach Coach is at the elbow. room right now. So, he's down Florida. Yeah, he texted me. He said, "Hey, watching you guys on TV is the elbow. room." Maybe they do it. Okay, it's in. Pittsburgh. Never mind. I was going to. say maybe the elbow elbow room. All right, everybody have a great 4 day. weekend. We can't thank you enough. AJ, great work this week. Really crushed it. Thank you, boys in the back. Really good work. Really good work, boys. Boys, the. graphic design, boys. Really good.

really good. Can't wait to see you do. that. Uh oh, you know, there's multiple. back flips. Debbone. Yeah, we need to do. the back handspring party like Ninja. Mac. Mhm. Is the name. Okay. Debbone. could do it. I could see Debbone getting. in there and doing it. Yeah, I think so. Debbone said he plans on getting in good. shape by football season. Is that right? We just have to hang like a box of like. Mc Krispie strips or something at the. end and he'll just Come. on. Come on. He probably would. And he. wouldn't kiss those. You ain't knocking. those over. No. No. Girl Scout cookies.

showed up in her office out of nowhere. Nobody brought them. And uh somehow. nobody brought them. That's always They. were the worst. The worst collection. The coconut the coconut ones or. whatever. Bingo. Not the worst. Worst. They're good. That's. crazy. You guys are asine. This is This. might be a generational chocolate peanut. butter one. That is We agree. Yes. But that doesn't. mean the worst [ __ ] ones. The coconut. one should be burned. Throw them away.

You agree with AJ who only eats. [ __ ] So it doesn't help my coconut. I'm not a coconut guy. I'm not a coconut. guy. That's a Samos, I believe. The um. Yeah. You don't like Samoans? That's. interesting. Watch your. mouth. You better watch your mouth. You. better watch your mouth right now. That's weird. It's called Samos. Whatever the hell they're called. I'm. talking about Girl Scout cookies right. now. That one not my favorite. I. understand people that do like it, but. if you don't like coconut, you're not. gonna like that one. Okay, that is just.

a I don't like coconut, but I like the simoleons. Anyways, it. was that one. Okay, so obviously Yeah. No way I'm doing that. And then there. was the plain like probably the one that. you like the most. It's just a plain. ass. That one sucks. Yeah. Vanilla and. cream. Yeah, whatever it is. Just plain. looking ass one. It's okay. It's okay. Yeah, you love that one. The white Oreo. And then there was three thin mints. Fire. Three thin mints. Thin mint. Fire. Yeah, they they were the original. I. believe thin probably were the original. I appreciate their service for this.

entire thing. But that was the worst. collection of Girl Scout cookie. purchases I've ever seen. They just. showed up here this morning. Nobody. brought them in. Okay. I don't know how. that happens. I have no idea how that. happened. We started burying them too. early. That's how it happened. Yeah, we. should have complimented him a little. bit cuz I went over there and I go, "These are all ass." The [ __ ] Yeah, this is the worst collector. Does. whoever brought them instantly just. quieted down started kept typing. wherever they were. man actually stood. up. Used. Zo brought those in. awaren that's when he forgot to he.

forgot to write something down. Yeah. Well, the Faulk was uh he m had a couple. moments this morning that were really. good. The whole the whole office got to. hear him in his takes, his opinions. I. saw Zo bring those Girl Scout cookies. in. Zo's like, I found him in the front. room. So, somebody had to bring him in. the front room. Oh. And he sits down. [ __ ] Wait. I know where every kid is in. the front room. I am the front room. basically is what he said. And then. there was another one that had a graphic. of some sort. He forgot to write. [ __ ]. Sure. Write it down. It was such a good.

idea. M. You're trying good work this. week, Mitt. M. Worst Girl Scout cookie. collection we've ever had. It's not. true. But no questions asked. There are. I'm asking a question right now. you. So. you. think if that collection cuz there's so. many good options I think of Girl Scout. cooks Yeah. was placed against any other. collection. That's not what I'm saying. I said it's a [ __ ] collection. You said. it's the worst potentially. No, cuz I.

think you put them in Simone's top four. Both of them. And then you got the. tackalongs at one and then and then you. have a floating. other box that just slides in there. sometimes. Shout out to the Girl Scout. cookies. Where's They got to make so. much money. Where's it all go? Good. question. Probably to that um uh cool bunker. Heard about that bunker. And then Joey. Bose is like, "What's up, Dion Dawkins? Good to talk to you, man. Love football.

They call you snow. Uh I'm trying to. never see that in my bunker." And then. they just roll right into a bunker. conversation. That sounds like That is. exactly how it went. So is every So the. bunker talk is we're going down. Yeah, we're going down. You could YouTube. There's some There's some guys that have. great YouTube channels that are burying. bunkers in people's yards that are. awesome. I mean Zuckerberg has the $240. million bunker in Hawaii. What was that. show? What was that show? Paradise. Paradise. Very good. Is that the one. that was all down? No. Silo or.

something. No, Silo is all down. Yeah. And that show took a turn at the end of. the last season. But Paradise is about a. bunker built inside a mountain in the. Rockies. Not really a bunker. It's like the size. of Toledo is what they said. Oh, a ton. Yeah. Which is what You ever toured that. Greenbryer one? You guys ever to the. Green Bryer? Big old bunker that that. was secret and then all of a sudden got. found out and now it gives tours. Green. Bryer, West Virginia. Yeah, they have a. huge bunker there. Never been. The only. thing I remember from Greenbryer is uh.

one time at the casino and they maybe. put a a fake pair a pair of dress pants. on. True. Size 46. Had to put these. dress pants on cuz I had shorts on. Not. allowed in the casino with shorts. So, they pulled a pair of suit pants out. from the back. Here's 48. Still fit. And. we had a great time on uh Jay-Z's bus. Yeah, we did. Great times. On Jay-Z's. bus. JD John Dailyaly. John Daily. Good. gosh. I don't think so. Yeah, I don't think. so. Be a friend. Tell a friend something. nice. It might change their life. We're.

in this thing together. Okay. Great. work, boys. Team on me. Have a great. weekend. Team on three. One, two, three. Goodbye.