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Now, speaking of DraftKings Sportsbook, don't look now. We got odds for an NFL. game. >> Yeah, we do. Big time. >> And also, we got NFL teams reporting the. training camp. >> Hall of Fame game, a big one. Carolina. Cardinals, Carolina Panthers, Jesus. Arizona. Cardinals. It. >> is a big one. >> We'll be celebrating legends. And don't. look past the Carolina Panthers. Your. natural reaction is going to be Carolina. Panthers stink. Okay, that's what you're. going to think. You're going to say that.

owner the worst. And then if you. actually peel back the onion a little. bit and start looking into it, owner. might be the biggest dog in all of all. of sports as an owner. He will actually. fight for his players, which is very. rare, I believe, in these days. Also, Yinszer, so I have massive respect for. that. And the team that Canal and Morgan. are building down there, don't look now. >> That's a good football team. had a. playoff game, had the place packed out. Bryce Young comes into his own, becomes. his own guy. They got weapons all across. the board. The defense is obviously. going to be good. We'd assume because of.

who the general manager is, absolute. stallion, defensive linebacker in his. day. So, don't look now. Panthers, they. have a chance. Now, the Arizona Cardinals. >> Uhhuh. They are the team, not that. anybody has taken the Browns kind of out. of this combo or the Jets out of this. convo, but the Cardinals are maybe the. newest team that has kind of found their. way into that place is a [ __ ] hole. conversation. I don't like it cuz we. love Phoenix. I don't like it because I. think we've met numerous people a part. of that uh team and organization and we. like them, but they're obviously move on.

from Kyler Murray. That was what it was. New coach, new GM. They got a new. practice facility coming. We just. learned of that in the last couple of. days. They have a future that they're. looking to be very bright. Obviously, Larry Fitzgerald getting celebrated as a. beautiful thing. Luke Keequley, Drew. Brees, the boys, everybody. Bill Bichc. will be talked about at least once or. twice, but the Hall of Fame game gives. us moment to uh. >> kind of celebrate the fact that. football's back cuz they're all in the. building earlier than everybody else. And the players certainly are like, great. >> Yes, >> that's good. But for us, it does feel.

real, Tone. And as we try to uh bet on. the Hall of Fame game, what should we be. thinking about this? So, we don't know. anybody that's going to be wearing the. uniforms on that particular high school. football field. No high. >> Good news for you. We are going to know. some people uh for the Cardinals. I. would assume because nobody really ever. plays in this game that Jacobe Brassette. is not going to play. I'd be shocked if. Gardenner Mchu played uh either. So, you. most likely starting quarterback. >> Carson Beck for the Arizona Cardinal. So, that'd be fun. And then on the other. side for the Panthers, Bryce Young. probably not going to play. Is Kenny.

Picket gonna get some run? If not, Haynes King, Georgia Tech quarterback. will be getting a lot of run. He was. awesome and yes, exactly. A lot of run. in this game. So, that's kind of what. you got to look at. And then you got to. hope uh you know all the other positions. try to block, try to tackle, all those. things in the Hall of Fame game. >> Nine-year NFL vet Darius Jay Butler's. here. [applause]. >> Good to see you, Debb. The guys that. have to go early for the Hall of Fame. game, they're pumped because they get a. chance to start their season earlier. than everybody else. Ain't that right, Dut get to enshrine, they're legends. But, uh, didn't you say, "Okay, come to. the sports book. Come to DraftKings. If. you're not gonna be an [ __ ].

>> if you're betting on the Hall of Fame. game, you're an asshole.". >> That's not true. Don't be call the. number right now. Put the number back. up. If you're looking at lies or bets or. people for this game, >> call the number. >> Shut up. >> Give us Let us live. >> No, >> I like I'm responsible for Yeah, you're. right. You're right, Debbie. That's I. >> don't be an [ __ ] game of the year. That's That's diabol. >> You were just betting on Carson Beck. What's the difference now? >> Soccer. We didn't know [ __ ] about. soccer. >> Well, exactly. We're Hold on. That's. what we're talking about. We got to be.

[laughter]. >> Those are the best players in the world. We put a lot of fun in the world. on darts this year. I don't care what we. know a lot about. >> Carson Beck versus Hannes King. Yeah, I'm going to have a bet. >> Yeah, Carson Beck was. >> I knew Kitty Pig was on the Panthers. >> Contract. >> I didn't know until I saw that graphic. right there. Is there a glove on a hand? That's Kenny Pig out there. Yes, it is. And is that Carson? Yes, it is. I. remember the clips. And is Jacobe. reporting to camp? >> It was when we talked yesterday to. multiple insiders. uh believed he would.

report today, but we will see. >> All right, so that's obviously news that. we will have to talk about. Ian Rapaort. will join us in a second hour at about. 1:30. We have Big Perk joining us here. in a matter of moments. He is still in. his basement. >> rotating shorts out on the LeBron. Obviously going to continue to chat. about that because the Miami Heat social. team and digital team, they put out a. live link for July 27th for a. introductory press conference. That'd be. about 5 days from now. Now, they came. out and said that digital team was just.

practicing or putting something. together. Probably not supposed to make. that public, but you know, we got to. arbitrarily turn some wrenches. If we do. get LeBron, we got at least at least. maybe have a link ready for that in the. future because we got to think ahead. Well, whether it was a mistake, supposed. to happen, not supposed to happen, sports books reacted. Miami Heat are now. your favorites to land LeBron James. Believe the Cavaliers were the favorite. just yesterday. But the Miami Heat, I. don't think they fully understand and or. I'm sorry, the sports books, I don't. think they fully understand that some of. these professional teams have the. dumbest group of humans running their.

digital and social media departments. And I only say that because we've. witnessed it. We've watched it. We've. met some of these people. And it's they. kind of are handed the keys to a. Ferrari, a Lamborghini, multi-billion. dollar company, and they're entrusted. with it because they're younger than the. old folks who are scared to death of. social media and digital. So, we'll hire. somebody younger to kind of run that. department. And then those people in. some cases really good. Okay? Now, if. they're really good, they're probably. going to run their own businesses. It'. be way too expensive to work for a team. But, nonetheless, there are some that. are very good. We've seen them across.

the league. Obviously, we respect the. Chargers a lot. We got the Panthers a. lot. We There's certain teams that do. very well social and digital wise. There's a lot of these places that are. ass. at social and digital. So, I do not. think we should put too much stock in. them making an arbitrary link for a. potential press conference to announce. LeBron James and then doing that and. then putting it public. These are same. people that put that link public. There's a lot of decisions that have to. be made to keep that link private or to. keep it public. So, for them to do all. that, it's either in a great sense of.

ineptitude, which is possible. We we. would like to say in those particular. departments around buildings certainly. possible with who they're hiring for. those positions but also if they're. making a a link for a president do. people want to do extra work for no. reason I'm trying to read it is he going. to the Miami Heat. >> now he can't now he can't because. collusion will be called into play if he. signs with the Heat and it's on if it's. on the 27th guess what that's getting. walked back Adam Silver saying no way. we're not doing this absolutely not so. we'll see maybe they do have it you know.

scheduled it can't be on that day. anymore. So maybe that pisses LeBron. off. Well, I can't make I can't make my. decision on my time anymore. That's the. way this is going to work. I don't think. so. You guys are out. I'm going to. Golden State. And to your ineptitude. point, I don't know if it's real or not, but there was something going around the. internet this morning about the Miami. Heat looking for a new YouTube uh. manager. So, if it is real, they [ __ ]. canned that guy immediately after he did. this and and they are moving on. >> But I think we should understand that uh. there are some very good digital and. social people throughout the history of. the world. >> Certainly. Okay, we know that finding.

one, especially for all professional. teams. You would think this would be a. highly soughtafter job. >> Yeah. >> Which it is. So that means the hiring of. it is like who's doing the decision-m. Those people know nothing about what to. actually ask and what to do. So these. people Exactly. It probably is Pat Riley. making that decision. So somebody comes. in here fresh off a social media degree. They got a bunch of presentations about. numbers and we could do one trillion of. this and this and this and it's all. [ __ ] We all know that now in this. society that we're in living in it. That. happens in a lot of places and we get. bummed out about it. >> We get really bummed out about it.

whenever we see, you know, a video get. posted of a quarterback throwing a. wobble when the entire conversation is. about his injury on his hand and them. doing a 4K zoom in on the ball and then. a zoom out and then a wide receiver. >> making an insane catch and go. It's. great to be back. It's like, well, you. actually just killed your quarterback. Okay, now everybody's going to wonder if. he can throw a spiral. He has no idea. So, what we're saying is we can't take. all this um as like legit, but also that. feels like a lot of steps had to be.

happen for that thing to become. >> six days in advance. So, I feel like. that's a long time. >> This LeBron James. >> that's been kept under wraps for this. long, this quiet, and obviously, you. know, >> you got your Miami date hat on right. now. >> Yeah. I mean, everybody I'm bought in. I've been bought in though. I know he's. coming home. home. I know Cleveland is. home, but Miami is where he turned into. a man. >> It's where he married Savannah. >> Great golf. Better golf than Cleveland. I'll tell you that much. Better golf. than, you know, probably Golden State.

>> Rock and roll. >> We got guys going to play defense, too. We got Greek Freak. We got Bam. You go. to Cleveland. You got to You got to You. got to wear that hat. >> Hart ain't guarding nobody. >> What about Golden State? >> Ain't guard nobody. Tell me about Golden. State. >> Damn. Ain't guard nobody, >> huh? >> Draymond's, you know, he's a little long. in the tooth. >> defensively. The whole team would be. very long in the two. >> Yeah, we got Wiggins playing defense. I. mean, >> come on, Ralph. >> You think Miami You think Miami actual. real answer, huh? You're like super. excited. >> What about Philly? >> You think You think. >> No, >> I personally I mean I I a big Braun fan,

so I I watched press conferences and. everything. You know, one of the. greatest players. When he says things, you listen. And the comments he made. about Jaylen Brown, I think last year, maybe post game, >> I don't think he's going there. Okay, that's fascinating cuz Greek Freak, you. think you'd want to play with? You think. you want to play with Yiannis? >> No. >> Uh, why not? >> I mean, two similar trains just kind of. coming down the tracks. I guess that'd. be a good time. >> Greek Free is the offball guy. He's a. guy that's going to run the Can you. imagine them on the break? >> Bam on one.

>> Giannis on another and Braun bringing. >> Alis from half. Yeah. >> Unsubble chip cookies afterwards. >> No. >> Yeah. >> No. He's 80 now. >> Take those chocolate chip cookies out. >> Pass that [ __ ]. >> Ovaltine. Is that what he's looking for. though? What that was? The old. Okay. Couple quick things away from LeBron. before we get back to it. Obviously, people love that we're talking about. We. love what we're talking about. >> Last time we get to do this. >> Let's go to the Pacers hopefully. You. didn't even mention the Pacers. I don't. love that. Uh Sam Leaporta, big news. coming out of uh Iowa Hawkeye legends in.

the NFL. He had a herniated disc. Well, he was fully cleared and we'll be good. for camp. >> Sam, congratulations to the Detroit. Lions getting some really good news. Detroit Lions haven't had really good. news like two years or so. Is everything. okay up there, Foxy? How do we feel. going into the season? Obviously, this. is huge news and we'd like to. congratulate Sam on getting healthy and. getting back ready to get on the field. >> Yeah, I'd say everything's a-okay right. now. Quick Sam Laaporta stat for you. guys. When he's on the field, the Lions. are 32-10. When he's off the field, we. are four and five without him. He is an.

absolute X factor for this offense for. Jared Goff. And in terms of the Lions in. general, we're a bit under the radar. right now. And I I kind of like that. >> True. >> Yeah. You said Sam Leapora is the stats. and everything like that. I thought it. was Ben Johnson. Turns out Sam Leaporter. is actually the guy. >> Yeah, he's awesome. He blocks, he. catches, he does everything. He's been. fantastic. >> They're keeping Dan Campbell away from. microphones. How come I haven't heard. Maron. so long? That's actually a great point. I haven't seen any clips from him. I. haven't seen any clips of the new OC. A. lot of unknown right now, which is I am.

loving as a Lions fan. >> I did appreciate his half price rice. apps Applebee's commercial. I I did like. what he did there. I I liked when the. Lions are on top of the world now that. NFC North. >> stack. >> Look out. >> Tough sledding up there. Uh, also news. out of the NFL, Packers DTackle. Devonte. Wyatt has agreed to a three-year. [applause]. >> $57 million deal. First highlight we. have him putting a left up. I love. everything about it. You know, Chuck. Vaggono, one of his big things you. always say was put a left up, put a left. up, put a left up and strain, even if. you're not going to be there, maybe. deflect something on a right-handed.

quarterback. I think it comes from that. particular thing and then he's kind of. placing through everything. I appreciate. the fact that the Green Bay Packers, they bring in Micah obviously uh have to. realign the Dline and uh pay one of. their big boys in the middle and. whenever Micah was playing that Dline. was wrecking the entire game. I assume. you're excited about keeping Wyatt on. the Packers and this is big money for. this time of year it feels like. >> Yeah, well deserved and honestly didn't. know uh he was kind of, you know, he was. a first round draft pick a couple years. ago when they they had two first late in. the first round and it was kind of like.

a hey, we're going to wait and see. we. don't know if we're going to pick up. this guy's fifth year option be that was. before Micah got there it kind of looked. like there was a chance he wasn't going. to potentially be a Packer and then. obviously Micah gets there he's. unbelievable with Micah when Micah gets. hurt he's kind of the one who's. stabilizing the Dline so yeah with Micah. being out potentially the first like. four to six weeks or whatever it is this. year like they're going to need him to. kind of solidify everything and he has. been he has been really good always. healthy um and obviously uh we'll see. what happens but yeah this is huge for.

the Packers. >> feels like Ed policies policy is like, "Let's keep our good players here.". >> Yeah. Bingo. >> I like what Ed Polyy's doing over there. Once again, that's NFC North news. NFC. North. >> and we don't even know what Kyler's. going to look like down there, miss. So, sorry. Quarterback competition between. JJ and Kyler. >> I think those highlights kind of. solidified that if you watch the wide a. little bit there. Yeah, >> it's a lot of JJ McCarthy just kind of. [ __ ] his pants out there. But the. the Vikings problem is probably their. defense. They just lost too many guys. there, but their offense will always be. unbelievable. >> Let's go to some other NFL news. Fernando Mendoza has yet to sign his. rookie contract. He's not the only one.

Yeah, >> all the rookie QBs have yet to sign the. rookie. Yeah, this is a interesting. little game of cat mouse kind of taking. place with the NFL. There has been. holdouts in the past even though CBA, modern CBA, has basically all the money. slotted for every single draft pick for. what they're going to get for the next. four to five years if they were to get. franchise tagged on top of that as well. So money has basically been figured out. in totality. It's always the guarantees. What's the offset language? What can. kind of do this? What can do? Those. little details are what lawyers uh.

charge a lot of people for and what. lawyers are keeping other lawyers in. business for. And I assume that's what. Fernando's doing. It doesn't I don't. think I fully expected all the. quarterbacks to kind of Yeah. >> be holding out kind of. But is that. what's happening here? Is this is this. time for us to say I guess they haven't. missed anything yet. So. >> it's not a hold out yet, but they. haven't done a deal. This is fascinating. little development here. It. >> it is. But we assume this will all get. worked out. all these guys will be on. their teams day one when it comes to it. I know like you said there's always.

different language. I remember when I. signed my contract. Uh one of the things. we're going back and forth about was. getting some deferred payment as because. I didn't want all my money up front. I. wanted to wait kind of to that next. March to get a large chunk of my money. just because I was 22. I was like me let. me me live this first season go to the. offseason and get a different chunk. And. then you know my people kind of like hey. you want your money to be growing you. know interest and all the other [ __ ] I. was like wait. So, it's a back and forth. probably with his team, but probably. back and forth with the team, but all. different quarterbacks. I'm sure they'll. get this figured out and all being. >> I would assume you're one of the first.

guys ever want to defer payment as. opposed to wanting the money right now. I respect you thinking about you at that. age for me. Uh, that money was already. gone before I even got it. [laughter]. >> Yeah, that Cadillac Escalade almost got. repoed because I didn't have any money. I thought signing bonus soon as I sign. this thing, as soon as I get drafted, it's going into my bank account. That. thing took three, four weeks. And I'll. tell you what, the bank was wondering. what the [ __ ] was going on. [laughter]. Cadillac Escalade was awesome. That was. the greatest. That was my favorite car. >> Oh yeah. >> Night I got drafted, I bought this. thing. >> Good car. >> Still bringing it. >> Don't have any money obviously at that.

point. I just assume I had to show the. news like a news thing to the bank. person that was trying to repo the car. like, "Hey, this money's coming. I. promise it's the NFL deal." I just I to. be nobody around me really knew when. this was getting here. >> Google me, dude. [laughter]. >> Thing was gone soon as it got there. I. got interest. penalties, payments happening. I mean. that that car might have been that car. was worth 175% of what I what I have. [laughter]. because of what happened. So a little. bit different animal but maybe I should. have deferred a little bit later on. maybe getting a car that I didn't.

couldn't afford. >> So the report is that the 57.2 million. contract is predetermined by the NFL's. rookie wage scale but Mendoza's camp. wants the signing bonus worth worth up. to 38 million paid in one lump sum. immediately which is customary for the. top pick. But the leer or the Raiders uh. are don't want to pay it all at once. They want to pay it off. And. >> yeah, and DBA DA told you exactly what. Fernando's people are saying. We want. the money so we can grow the interest. and the Raiders are saying, "Ah, we'll. keep it." So, and they're thinking about. doing the same. Uh, let's get away from. rookie contracts happening. Hopefully,

they'll all get figured out. Hey, good. luck. >> Good luck out there. Got [applause] him. >> I mean, Mark Davis is kind of flexing. his muscle a little bit. He's like, "You. think I'm building a stadium to not put. grass in there?" Yeah, right. And it's. like, we build a stadium, build a new. franchise, has that new house out there. Now, you got a quarterback that wants 38. million bucks right now. Yep. Good luck. out there. Pulling for you, Mark, because that team looks better than it's. ever looked. The stadium obviously. going. The vibe seemingly positive. Their over under is what? Five, six and. a half. Five and a half. >> We did the other day. I think it was. five and a half. >> There's 17 games in a season.

>> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> I mean, start. >> Well, if he signs his contract, they got. to get him 38 million first. Let's go. back to the NBA, ladies and gentlemen. Joining us now is an absolute legend. A. guy who hasn't left his basement since. the finals. >> Yeah, pretty much. >> Long time. 15-year NBA veteran and. champion. Ladies and gentlemen, big Park. Kendrick Park. >> Park. How you doing, buddy? >> Hey, I'm still up here in the attic, man. You know what I mean? >> Yeah. >> So, it's not the basement. You're saying. it's the attic.

>> Well, you know, in Texas, we don't have. we don't have basements. You know what I. mean? We We got attic. So, I'm still up. here in the attic. But you you know. what? I'm not complaining. I'm not. complaining. >> I'm not complaining. >> Life could be much worse. Obviously, we. get a chance to chat about sports. Thank. God for that. And obviously the way you. chat about basketball is spectacular, especially whenever we're just trying to. fill time until LeBron James makes a. damn decision. On that note, uh Debut. South Florida Hall of Famer actually, but obviously Miami Heat fan, he's. reliving the glory days whenever LeBron.

made the decision and took his talents. down to South Florida and he's going to. the Heat now. There's a lot of things. that happened down there. Didn't last as. long as we thought, but they certainly. had massive success. Goes back to. Cleveland, has success there. Now we're. at the Lakers. This thing's over. I. would like to see him personally uh go. to Golden State, okay? Just because I. want to see him and Steph Curry uh do a. circus-l like thing every single night. in some arena. And I assume the. conversations behind the scenes will be. incredible. I assume the golf convo will. be incredible. I assume the business. Rich Paul will be up there in Silicon.

Valley. I mean, LeBron will own the next. Snapchat in the next uh everything going. forward. So, in my head, it feels like. Golden State's the answer. What do you. think? and uh Miami Heat's digital team. put out a link saying there's an. introductory press conference coming on. July 27th that is everybody all kind of. uh zeed up if you will. So what are your. thoughts on it all Perk and you up in. that attic? Uh when do you think you're. exiting after he makes a decision? July. 27th seems like a potential deadline. here for you. >> Yeah, I know. Listen, let me say this. I.

would love to see him and Steph Curry. play. I I I would love to see that. That. would be mustsee TV. But I also would. love to see him and Giannis play. alongside one another. Like when we talk. about alltime great, Giannis Toupo is. top five greatest power forwards of all. time. In my opinion, he's knocking at. the door in one championship away being. the clear-cut number two right behind. Tim Duncan. And when you think about.

these two freight ch trains being on the. same squad on the same floor coming at. you, how do you stop it? I believe last. year, LeBron James, he ranked number. three in transition buckets. I believe. that Giannis last year ranked number. seven in transition buckets. their. defense. You combine all three of those. guys with Braraw IQ and Bam and and. Giannis Anchoring with Andrew Wiggins on. the on the uh perimeter and and uh DaVon.

Mitchell like they would be one of the. greatest defensive teams in the history. of the NBA. And Pat Riley made it very. very clear that I don't have time to. wait. I'm not trying to wait two years. I'm trying to get this done now. And I. get it. Right now, Giannis, he's, you. know, he want to be Billy badass. He. don't have friends. He don't reach out. to people. He don't do all that nons. I. get all that, right? But if he's, if.

they trying to get LeBron, he got to put. his damn pride aside. At some point, you. got to jump off the porch and you got to. pick up that damn phone and call. somebody cuz Pat, hey, guess what? If I. need to talk to you, damn it, I'mma. FaceTime your ass at 12:00 midnight. If. you don't answer, you going to get. another FaceTime call from me at 6:00 in. the morning till you pick up the damn. phone. That if you're trying to get. something done, sometimes you have to. get uncomfortable. And I think the best.

destination right now for what LeBron. James is looking for, meaning sunny. weather, because you're not going from. LA for 8 and 1/2 years and trying to. move to a city like Cleveland, Philly, or Indiana where you going to have to. deal with snow at some point in cold. weather. You trying to you trying to get. somewhere where you could play golf, you. could wiggle your toes in the sand along. with playing some great basketball. And.

last but not least, over this period of. time while we wait on LeBron, it have. you thinking and we all turn into. investigators. And I got to thinking. last year, the most important part of. the season for LeBron that I felt like. it uh uh something went off in his head. is when Luca and Austin Reeds was hurt. and then he became the number one option. again and primary ball handler in that. Houston Rocket series. That right there.

gave him a a different view and more. life. If he goes to Miami, which he. should, he will be that primary ball. handler and that guy that he wants to. be. >> Inspector Perkins, [laughter]. that was pretty good. That was pretty. good ting back there because. >> made a lot of sense. >> Yeah, I do remember whenever Luca and. Austin were down, they're like, "Well, they're dead." And then Braun did it for. one game, then he did it for two games. They're like, "He's way too old to be. doing what he's doing right now. They. need to get him some help. He's going to.

do this again. He's going to do it. again. And then against Houston, he had. that moment. And it's just absurd to. think that he's still able to do this. Which leads to the next question. >> Is this a one-year thing? Is this uh or. like Connor seems to believe. >> and I'm on his side. >> I don't think this is capped at one. year. I think we got a two-year runway. wherever we're headed. Now, I could be. completely wrong cuz maybe he is. enjoying golf and retirement life and. maybe there is some other things that. are available for him to do and maybe he. does just want to wiggle those toes, you. know, in the sand. I get that. >> he's got that toe wear and tear.

>> That toe. >> we've all seen that. >> that thing go [laughter] turns. >> How does he have. >> lot of fast brakes? >> It doesn't make any I mean it's like. he's got he's got you know he's like. little paddles down there cuz like. >> Go ahead. >> That's what y Hey, listen. That's what. y'all call billiond dollarar feet. You. know what I mean? That's billion. That's. what billiond dollarar feet. Hey, those. feet been in trenches. You know what I. mean? A lot of stop and goes, a lot of. cuts, turns, first three steps. You know.

what I'm saying? That's what happens. You know what I mean? >> Yeah. But it does. And I agree 100%. It's like Ryan Fox with his golf swing. being one. >> I'm told that the big toe is like good. for grip and balance and like it's like. the most explosive athlete I've seen. The guy don't even have one. I mean I. mean his. >> he got to just point a different way. >> Yeah. But they just. >> Can you imagine having that type of. [laughter]. >> I didn't You're right. >> I didn't know he had a joint. >> He could go it was. >> down. We got a different you know. >> I didn't even think about that cuz the.

big toe is actually saying hey other toe. get out of the way. Let me get under. here real quick. So he kind of gets rid. of the extra which is kind of what he. does right. He kind of trims the fat. He. he he kind of trims the fat. His toes. said let me take the lead here. Let me. go down here. I didn't expect us to have. that particular convo, but I do think. he's in incredible shape and I think he. likes what he's doing and uh like the. great quarterbacks that we've watched, they never want to leave. You know, it's. like, hey, the whole building has been. built around you your whole life. You've. committed your whole life to this. You're still great. If your body can.

keep up, why not keep going? It's like. your brain's only getting better. If. your body for LeBron, I think a lot of. people are thinking, okay, he's got a. one-year run here. It's going to be. over. And it's like, I don't I'm with. Connor. I It feels like he's in great. shape. I don't know why it's. >> like a yeartoyear thing just like we do. with the old quarterbacks. You know, Aaron Rogers or you know Brady, he. wanted to play forever, but you know, usually you get to a point where it's. like, okay, every year, hey, I'm going. to take some time away. Big Ben, I think. he, you know, they all do it. Most of. them have to do it. But usually you can. see father time start winning. But like.

you said, Brun still looks like he has a. runway. Even if he won't be a top 10. player, he to play for another five. years and be another, you know, top 25. player in the league, which, you know, from what we see at least. >> It's what we're going through right now. with Aaron Donald conversation. It's. like Aaron Donald, good luck subbing him out. Like, if. Aaron Donald comes back and he's on the. field, like, okay, yeah, good luck sub. It's like LeBron feels like the Saint. like you're going to take LeBron off the. court right now, you're going to not. give the ball to LeBron right now. Like, I don't know. And on that note, Tai has. a question for you. >> Yeah, Perk, I agree with you about like.

Giannis. Hey, you got to swallow your. pride and maybe smooch a little butt if. you [laughter] want LeBron to come down. to Miami. But we made the I mean like. this was the biggest trade kind of. several years in the making here. When. is Giannis going to get moved? He. finally does. We saw the hall that comes. from him. Like does he want to be a. sidekick? Because I I understand how. good he is and everything, but like if. LeBron goes to the Heat that is. immediately it's LeBron's team. That's. what everyone's going to and Giannis cut. he does become like the de facto. sidekick. Is that something that he even.

wants? Like is he willing to accept that. or no? >> Well, I mean the only thing that he the. only thing that Giannis should want is. to win the championship. Look, I I. strongly believe this that Giannis will. never win another championship if he's. the number one if he's the number one. scoring option. He's going to get you. through 82 games because he's that. dominant. But if you look at where the. game has is going and where it's went. over the last three years, look at our.

last three NBA champions. The Boston. Celtics, what did they have? Perimeter. play to get it done offensively. Great. >> Oklahoma City Thunder, what did they. have? Perimeter play to get it done. offensively. The New York Knicks. perimeter play. Big Body Brunson to get. it done and close games. I'm not saying. Giannis is not that one of those dudes, but when you're talking about closing. out games and they get in the fourth. quarter, you need that perimeter guy.

You need that guy. And so, if Braun was. to come, like, I don't think Giannis. would mind being a 1B. That 1B still is. going to go out there and get you 25. points and 12 rebounds and maybe three. blocks. at this point in Giannis's. career, like over the the last four or. five years, he has it hasn't been. pleasant for him. Either he's been. injured, he's been uh dealing with. multiple coaches, multiple teammates,

and and now all of a sudden, you get. back to a space where you're actually. able to compete. Like, you don't give a. damn at that point. And he shouldn't. So. again, he needs to swallow his pride and. pick up that damn phone because Pat. Riley expectations is to win the. championship. >> I love I love that somebody told you. that everybody's calling but Giannis. isn't calling and you go, "Excuse me?" I. love that you heard that somewhere. Somebody told you of actual knowledge.

directly from situation. I don't know if. it was Rich or somebody else. I don't. know. And you go, "What do you mean. Giannis hasn't called?" Every team has. recruited LeBron to try to get out. there. Steph Curry and Steve Curry put. together a car. They gifted it to them. They did an entire thing. Cleveland. Cavaliers said they'll shut I don't. know. >> I have no idea. But but it is sounding. like people are like, "Hey, we really. want you here." And it sounds like you. heard that Giannis is refusing to do. that. Is that is that accurate? Because. I've heard you a couple times say this. now. You said it on first. Go ahead.

>> It was his interview, Pat. His interview. said that he felt like he didn't need to. pitch nothing that Brawn knows what's. going on in Miami. And my thing is is. outside of him trying to get Braraw. there to win the championship. Like. sharing a locker room with greats, I. call myself a groupy, a NBA groupy. because I played with so many Hall of. Famers. And when you're able to share a.

locker room with a all-time great and. experience that type of greatness and. playing a plan sharing a locker room. with LeBron James is nothing like it. Like real talk. And I experienced it for. two years. I was able to watch his. routine. I was able to watch this man. leave practice, go shoot a commercial, come back, get treatment. like be able. to watch him move like the president was. a beautiful thing to see. Like at some. point you got to sit back and think and.

say, you know what, when I get older and. I'm retire, like as I age and my kids. start to have kids, hopefully no time. soon because I'm ready for they asses to. get out the house and I don't need. grandbabies right now. But when I do get. grandbabies, I want to be able to tell. them stories. I want to be able to share. them moments. So when you look back and. you say, "Hey dad, hey grandpa." Hey, uh, whatever they call me. I I don't. want to be called grandpa. I figure out. a new name. I don't want.

>> n you know what? My grandbabies might. might just call me big perk. Like I. don't I like we're in a new age. I ain't. with all I You know what I'm saying? Big. perk. Papa per something. >> Grand walking up. >> Papa perk. >> Big perk. What up, man? [ __ ] dab up. Good to see you, [laughter] dude. We can. walk around. I'm saying like, bro, it's. it's it's stories that you you know what. I'm saying? Like we all impact. You. didn't shed locker rooms. >> Venitary and Payton. That's what I was. about to say. I I Venitary. I worked.

with Adam Vinitary like literally. directly every single day. No way I. would have had success both in life and. in football if it wasn't for just. watching how he operated. And then Pton. Manning also like and then you up in New. England, Tom Brady. Tom Brady Moss Bell. Chuck Pagano used to say, Chuck Magano. used to say to the young guys, um, hey, if this is your first or second year, there's like seven guys in here that. have been in the league for 10 years. Just go ahead and. >> get in their back pocket, just. >> watch whatever the hell they do. Robert, I mean, there's just a lot of them that.

you watch why and how they go about. doing what they do and it's like, oh, the smallest of things, treatment, even. like, hey, this is how you do treatment. This is how you leave treat or this is. how you work in treatment. This is how. you talk to trainers. This is how you. do. Not saying Giannis needs that, but. >> if you're gonna get a chance to get a. master class in how to do the NBA, which. I think LeBron has. >> has done more than if he's worried about. he could call Luca. Like Luca was just. with him and Luca was I don't think Luca. was 1B. Like when Luca was on, he was. the guy there and it was fine with like. LeBron played great with him. So like if.

he's got an issue, he'd call Luka and. ask him, too. >> I still think he needs to go to Golden. State. All right, forget about that. Let's move along. Uh Papa Perk, big Papa. Perk. Um obviously going to have a lot. of stories for the grandkids. They're. also going to ask you some questions, too, probably. Go ahead, Con. >> Yeah, Perk, they'll probably ask you why. you hated Kevin Durant so much while he. played. >> Yeah. What's the deal, Perk? >> We heard what you said earlier about. Perk working out with Paulo, I believe, instead of. >> Katie KD KD, excuse me, working out with. Paulo Bancero instead of the Rockets. Uh, what is the situation there? Because.

>> I was just screwing with you. We don't. think you actually hate KD, but there is. seemingly some gruff between the Houston. Rockets, Kevin Durant, and whatever's. going on there, Sangon, all those guys. What is their situation? Do you think KD. is a guy that might also be on his way. out at some point next year? >> Well, I don't. And here's the thing. I. have no problem with Kevin Durant. I. always, in my opinion, he's the greatest. scorer to ever touch the damn. basketball. But.

>> played with him. They didn't give up. Jaylen Green and Dylan Brooks to get KD. to for for him not to come to Houston. and deliver a championship. Like I grew. up a Elijah fan. I grew up a Sam Cassell. fan. I grew up a Vernon Maxwell fan. Mario Ellie, Otis Thorp, who I learned. how to shoot my jump hook from. Like I. was Clutch City all day. And what I'm. saying is is that the Rockets out of all. the teams that been making moves, you.

sit up and you watch OKC and the and the. Spurs duke it out in a brawl for it all. in the Western Conference and you sit. still and you say, "You know what? Our. players are untouchable. We want no. parts of the Giannis sweep stakes.". Okay, cool. That's fine. Trust your. coaching. Trust your player development. But in the off season, I need to see. some type of chemistry. I need to see. some type of togetherness because the.

narrative and what was coming out from. the Houston Rockets organization in the. locker room was those guys and I get I. haven't used one in a in a long time. They didn't [ __ ] with one another. >> Okay. Hell yeah. Right. >> Okay. So So So okay. So, so my thing is, you know, how you develop that. throughout throughout the off season. And all I was saying was I didn't have a. problem with Paulo Ben Carroll working. out with Kevin Durant, but I would like.

to see some videos of that surface of of. him working out with Atari E or Jabari. Smith to let you know because when you. develop a relationship with guys outside. of the lines, your relationship in. between the lines become a lot stronger. These are facts. These is not my. opinion. Before the Rockets were. relevant again, when they signed Fred. Van Vleet, when they had a young Jaylen. Green, we saw videos circulating around.

the internet in the off season of Fred. Van Vleet wrapping his arm around Jaylen. Green and all of a sudden that season. they took off and finished with the. number two seed in the Western. Conference. That's all I'm saying. >> We agree. In our sport, no team has ever. won that didn't love love love each. other like each other, hang out with. each other. I mean, it's very obvious. what teams like each other and what. teams don't. And they're the ones that. are playing late. I assume in the NBA, it's very similar cuz we watch a team. here in Indiana and the Pacers be great,

great, great. Then something happened. Nobody likes each other. We got to. restart all of a sudden. Great. And we. were in the finals. We were uh taking on. LeBron and Miami every single year. And. then they had to completely restart. because. >> seemed like some of that was happening. with Philly last year, the Eagles. >> Yeah, exactly. you know, went from, you. know, beating the [ __ ] out of the Chiefs. in the Super Bowl and then, you know, questions every, oh, what's going on. with this guy? What's going on with that. guy? So, yeah, >> chemistry matters. You need your leaders. to kind of do maybe Kevin Durant doesn't. want to just show it publicly. It's. like, hey, we're building in dark, dude. How about that, perk? >> How about that, perk?

>> Yeah. Yeah. You got no answer to that. Kevin Durant, he's going to unload a. photo dump. It struck the last three. months him arms around the entire. Houston. >> He's been laying low on social. Well, he. kind of had to. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> The internet sleuths got him a little. bit. They they found him. >> Yeah. But I I will say this, he knows. this, too, cuz he does actually live in. the paint of the internet. I mean, Kevin. Durant is in the paint. >> Oh, yeah. >> On the internet. >> You think he's still lurking? >> Definitely. >> Always.

behind that. >> Easy money sniper. >> He has been trying to catch. He has been. I assume there's a rolodex of like can't. wait to murder. This one's going to get. one too. >> This guy up here. [laughter] Yeah. going to get he'll be back. We know it. We know he will. >> I hope. >> Easy money sniper will come back in a. huge way on the internet. >> And if you live in the paint, we all. know what's possible. >> Oh yeah. >> Every once in a while you're going to. get yammed on. >> You're going to get yammed on. He did. He He got caught up pretty good. >> He He took a lot of dunks. >> Mhm. >> He said, "All right, I'll step out of.

the paint for a little bit.". >> But he's watching the paint. >> Oh yeah. Oh yeah. >> And he is waiting. And Perk might be the. one that kind of gets him back onto the. court again. You know, excuse me. this. [ __ ] guy again and he comes out. I I. would love every. >> Hey per, actually who got who got your. ass? Who was the first one to get you? And I know you were a rim protector. Who's the first one to get you? >> Man, to be honest, I you know what? It. might have been Giannis, a young. Giannis, if I'm not mistaken. Look, I.

didn't got caught a lot in my in my in. my lifetime. You know what I'm saying? But when you're a shot blocker, you're. going to get dunked on. Here's the. thing. The one thing I respect about. role players and defenders is the good. ones and the great ones, they're not. afraid of embarrassment. You know what I. mean? They're not afraid of. embarrassment. They don't give a damn. what's going on in the outside world. I. don't know if y'all knew this, but. >> I didn't really get involved with social. media until I retired. You know what I'm.

saying? I had to protect my peace. I had. to protect my sanity. >> But you know what? You know what Kevin. Garnett told me before? the great Kevin. Garnett. He was out for a season and I. was having the season of my career. Great a good season. Almost made the. All-Star game. And he said, "All right, just like your ass be running home to. turn on ESPN when you have a good game. Make sure you keep that same energy when. you have a bad game and you use that. [ __ ] as far. Goddamn it." And I was.

like, "All right, cool." So I learned So. I learned not to be sensitive as a young. player to criticism and I learned to. embrace that because we're just talking. basketball like these guys get so. sensitive nowadays. You know it it was. nothing that no one ever said on. television that stopped me from going to. sleep with my AC on 60 and my box. [laughter] fan blowing in my face. I. went to sleep real comfortable and cool. every single night. I didn't give a damn.

what was going on. >> All right. Thanks for painting a picture. for us like we were in the room there. with you. You know, I like it cold, too. Papa, too. >> And you said you don't you weren't on. social media cuz you wanted to protect. your peace whenever you're playing, which means, you know, you would have. got pissed off, which then means we. could have described you as thin. skinned, which is what you just did to. the guys now. But I'm not going to go. through that entire thing. I'm just. going to say you're the [laughter] man. I'm say you're the man and we love you, Perk. Live in that attic, bro. We. appreciate you. >> I love you. That's Parker.

Park. >> I stayed off social media to protect my. peace. You know, I get I get pissed. I. read that stuff. These guys these days. show they get pissed at this stuff. You're. >> the best. >> It's tough. It get tough in there. >> It is hard because. >> DB got 55 great plays. Those. >> Oh, yeah. >> four or five bad ones. >> Cut this guy. Yep. >> He stinks. Get rid of him. >> And we're going to see it again, too. >> Oh, yeah. >> Yeah. Cuz that's somebody else's. highlight. >> Yeah. It's a touchdown problem. >> Yeah. or big first down or two minute 18.

yard first down conversion field goal. >> Sounds like you remember these plays. Yeah, these are exact moments in my. life. >> Scars. >> Yeah, I had to watch these plays 45. times. Ask me why I took. >> that step. Just don't take that step. >> Don't worry. Killer bees did that to a. lot of guys. >> Hey, it's crazy with Hey, have you ever. They did. >> Not in New England. >> We watched that. Actually, we'll be. doing our top fiveish uh NFL punt. returners in the history of the NFL in. the next hour. That'll be fun. You'll. see some uh Pittsburgh Steelers. highlights in there, but their practices.

like what they're working on DBs, it's. crazy. Hey, you can't move your foot an. eighth of an inch. You move your foot an. eighth of an inch, guys. Gone. And guess. what? They even got whites that are. boom. [laughter]. Ladies and gentlemen, joining us now is. one of them. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. So many meeting rooms saying, "I know. what he looks like. I know. Just get on. your horse, okay? This guy will stack. you. I know it doesn't look like it. He. will. How many times has that been said?

>> A lot. >> Yeah, [laughter] I would assume that's. real real deal. Ladies and gentlemen, joining us now, two-time Super Bowl. champ. At one point, not only was he the. triple crown, it was actually quadruple. crown because it was also yards after. catch leader whenever he was with the. Los Angeles Rams. He goes to the Seattle. Seahawks. What's he do? Oh, wins a Super. Bowl. >> No big deal. Now, alongside his bride in. Fagatville, Arkansas, calling it home. He's the founder and owner of Dodo. Coffee. >> Hell yeah. >> Ladies and gentlemen, joining us, entrepreneur, uh, barista, Super Bowl.

champion, a man who's done everything on. a football field, including. embarrass folks in front of their. families. Ladies and gentlemen, Cooper. Cup. >> Hey guys, thank you for having me. >> How are you, man? that conversation that. I chitchated about people having in. other uh meeting rooms. I'm assuming. you've heard that your entire life that. people are saying no, no matter what he. looks like, I don't care how disgusting. his beard looks. Okay. Cuz he he hasn't. shaved it in 3 months.

>> Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. Cooper can thank. you for joining us, man. You're the. best. >> Of course. No, of course. Thank you for. having me. Yeah. No, the under being the. uh being the underdog, right? As we're. talking about, you got to convince. people like don't let him be the. underdog, right? It's a It's a lifetime. It's a lifetime journey. >> And let's talk about your lifetime. journey having a lot of great endings. and outcomes. Two-time Super Bowl. champion, obviously, Super Bowl MVP, offensive player of the year, 681 career. receptions, 8,300 plus yards, 60.

touchdowns, and the beard, I will say, didn't know beards could grow like that. Did not know that they could do that. So, we've learned a lot through it all. If you were to go back and talk to a. young coupe, is this exactly what you. saw for yourself? nobody else did or is. it kind of as it's all unraveling you're. kind of uh discovering what's all. possible with your football abilities? >> Yeah, I think there's a little bit of. both. You know, like I think you I've. got a healthy expectation for myself and. goals that I set and I mean look, I if I.

was I I guess I've said I worked too. hard in the offseason. Too much blood, sweat, and tears have gone into this. uh. too much sacrifice from me, from my. family, um from the people nearby me to. say that this wasn't the goal we set out. to accomplish in the first place. So, um. I'm not going to do them the injustice. of saying it wasn't part of the whole. plan. Um but there's still a part of it. that you discover you look back on. seasons say, man, that was just such an. unbelievable uh thing to go through. Um. so many things fell fell in place, went.

right, and um so there there's a mixture. of the two. >> All right. Well, we enjoy watching your. entire story. Obviously, others will. utilize it as motivation forever, which. is sweet. And I know that you certainly. honor and respect that story being for. the future. Now, let's talk about, you. know, Nine to Dime podcast and your Los. Angeles Rams run and everything we saw. there, cuz they talk about the Triple. Crown, which is catches, yards, and. touchdowns, but you also had yards after. catch as well. So, you had one of the. most historic seasons in the history of.

the NFL. We learn about you, I think, as. an athlete and a player in Los Angeles. You have massive amount of success. you. and the quarterback are best friends. You're another quarterback on the field. And then whenever you leave, obviously. it's like, whoa, we thought that was. going to be uh for everything. Going. back to Washington to the Seattle. Seahawks and then what do you do? I just. win a Super Bowl. So, can you tell me. when you get back to Seattle? Is it a. little or get to the Seattle Seahawks? Is it a little weird? And then how early. in there do you think, oh, we have a. team that nobody outside of this place. thinks can win at all? But I believe in.

what we have in here because of what I'm. seeing and I've obviously done it in the. past. Yeah, it was an interesting way of. all that stuff working out because. without a doubt, I mean, it it was still. we're still, you know, probably a. quarter of the way through the season. coming out of the tunnel. It's like. weird coming out of this side of the. stadium, you know, cuz I'd come out the. other side for so many times. Um, so it. was just kind of uh that took some. getting used to. Um, and eventually it. does eventually it does become just what. life is. Um, but then the uh I don't. know the like other side of that is like.

you spent 8 years in LA and we did. things a certain way in LA. Like it was. Sean has, you know, his alchemy is uh. science, you know, like there's like. there we're scientifically building like. what we know works, what we know is. going to win games. And so going that's. just all I knew. and you get to Seattle. and it's like, hey, there's a piece of. this. It's like, hey, we're just going. to play harder than you. We're we're. going to just out compete you. Uh we're. just going to play more physical than. you. Um and so there just it was this.

other side of things. It's like, man, you can still there's more than one way. to to win a football game to, you know, build a culture. U it was very. different. So it was took a second like. man, what is the expectation? Because. this is so different going through. training camp in terms of how it's built. and what we're what you're projecting. out. You're not you're not seeing the. data sheets, right? I'm not seeing the. Excel spreadsheet that says this is how. we're going to win games. Um it's like. no no we're just going to we're just. going to come and hit them really really. hard and we're just going to like will. ourselves to win. Um and then that came.

to life. >> God, I love that. I love that that. worked. >> You know, I love that that won a Super. Bowl because they always say there's so. many different ways to do things, but. normally accountability, attention to. detail, work ethic is all going to be a. part of everybody's, you know, kind of. mechanisms. But until one particular. culture or strategy wins, then you're. always going to wonder if it can get the. job done. Well, very quickly into a new. culture out there in Seattle, they get. the job done. Even though Schneider has. remained new head coach over there, who. I think we've all kind of fallen in love. with. Go ahead, Dud.

>> Yeah. What is the biggest thing I guess. with going from Shawn McVey to Mike Max? I always played for a defensive head. coaches. So, you going from an offensive. head coach and now, you know, having a. new OC, I know how familiar you are with. him in that system. I'm sure you'll have. a lot of input with that, but how. different and what was the biggest. different going and playing under Mike. Mack and that defense? I mean, the [ __ ]. you probably see in practice on a. day-to-day basis of what's going on in. the league is crazy. But what was the. biggest difference for you? >> Yeah. Well, there's, you know, a few. things. One, it was like, you know, go. through go through training camp in LA.

If the offense had a bad day, the entire. day was awful. Like, there was nothing. good that happened. If the offense was. bad, it's like, no, this is awful. Sean's in a terrible mood. He's ripping. everyone. Um there's days in training. camp where I thought, "Oh boy, we just. had a tough one offensively." And Mike. brings up like, "Hey guys, this is how. we practice. This is how we practice, right? That that that needs to be the. model every time." You're like, "Oh. yeah, there okay there's like this like. thing [laughter] the offensive coaches, defensive coaches just seeing their like. their side of the ball." Uh, so that. part was nice because you're like, okay,

there's a little bit of like, you know, you get to be your own, like you really. are your own critic on a lot of this. stuff and you're really um challenging. yourself as an offense. Um, but then the. other side of that is like the the um. defensive challenge of going against, you know, our defense day in day out and. we go, you know, Mike's a big believer. in ones ones. Like during training camp, it's ones on drill work. in uh in LA it. was a little more ones on twos like. you're getting looks you want like.

you're working on specific things. against specific looks that maybe like. the defense doesn't want to major in. Um. so you're going against twos that are. giving you certain looks um so you can. test plays out in Seattle. It was just. ones on let's go compete over and over. and over and over again. So you're. seeing um you know what end up being the. best defense um in the league on a daily. basis. Um that's a great challenge for. us offensively. I love that. That is. McDonald's strate. Like I like that. that's how he is. They go back to that. first team meeting that he had where he. goes, "All right, I want you to close.

your eyes. >> Late January, we're at home. It's. raining. It's a little chilly. >> Hell for them. Just right for us." And. then he was a year off. He said he was. going to get it the first year. Then the. second year it happens. It's like I like. that he's implemented this. And uh. >> it's a Ravens coming from the Ravens. >> I like that this style is winning. Yeah. You know, because you you do wonder like. because you talk about McVey, he's able. to draw plays. Not that there is another. offense coordinator about to ask you. about one actually, but he was able to. draw plays that like I don't want to say.

forced you to be open, but certainly put. defense in bad leverage. And then let's. execute it. And I like the fact that. you're seeing the data. Hey, if you run. this fast, this person cannot catch you. This will be a wide openen play. I. didn't know he was that attentive to it. all, but I we've seen it work and it's. awesome. And Stafford just won the MVP. in that particular offensive system. So, I assume that's what you need. McDonald. just being like, "Hey, >> we're gonna fight these dudes." Yeah, I. I like that a lot. I am a huge fan. And. Seattle is. >> not gonna get talked about enough ever. because how far away it is. I mean, you.

you understand because you've been out. there for a long time. But it's like the. respect that they should be taking from. everybody in the league has probably. already happened and now media is just. going to have to catch up. But I'll tell. you, the more I hear, the more I love. Tell me about Sam Darnold. Okay. Cuz I. love that story a lot. Okay. I thought I. thought him leaving Minnesota was wild. like this guy finally did it. Finally. found it. This is finally the right. spot. And then it's like well he also. got offered $100 million where it's like. all right you gota go do you got to go. do what you got to do at this stage. He. was cast off. Had to take his own.

journey. Didn't know if he was ever. going to get back into any meaningful. football games. And then when push came. to shove he played great football. Tell. me about Sam Darnold his leadership. And. is there similarities with Matthew. Stafford in the two? >> Yeah. No there is. I mean there's uh I. one first of all you got I mean. didn't work out great for Minnesota like. you saw the repercussions of that. >> Oh I didn't know you're an NFL analyst. group but I know. >> but I will say I I I debate whether to. say anything at all. But that being said.

I'm really thankful that we were able to. be the benefactors of that decision um. in Seattle. And so, um, Sam, I think. this the the coolest thing about Sam is. he is he is one of the few maybe one of. the only quarterbacks in the history of. the NFL to be written off to be a high. draft pick, be written off, go through. multiple teams, multiple organizations, end up being a backup, and then to come. back and reemerge, and then go and win a. Super Bowl. I mean, it's it his path his. path may has maybe never been replicated.

um in the NFL before. and to see his. resilience, the mental fortitude to push. through all those things. Um the um. self-confidence to be able to like. believe in yourself to that point cuz. there's there was times where nobody. believed in no there was nobody in the. NFL all all the people that you know are. outside of the buildings that believed. that he could go do this thing and he. just over and over again showed up went. to work and made it happen. And so um. I've got so much respect for him in.

terms of his process, the way he plays. the game. um builds himself up and is. never he's always learning. He's always. getting better. He's always challenging. himself. It's never good enough and. there's always more that can be done. Um. it just it's special to see him go to. work. >> Well, speaking of going to work, I'm. seeing this now for the first time. Opening pitch at the Mariners game last. night. >> Oh, I didn't I I haven't even seen this. yet. >> Me neither. We'll judge it in real time. here. Sam D from the. >> If it was If we didn't see it, it had to. have gone well, right? Yeah. See, you. you only see it if it was a disaster.

Well, I I we don't know if anybody was. at that game. Okay. We We don't know if. anybody had cameras on this other than. just whatever social team this was. We. didn't see the completed strike. >> Get Get a camera on the catcher for. Christ s. if it's a strike. It looks It's looking. a little high. >> Hold on. We got another Hold on. We got. another. >> See, and he gave a little like he gave a. little like, you know, maybe you need to. be be down a little bit. >> Here's alternate angle from right behind. >> how we feel. Yeah, >> somebody swung.

>> it. He took the safe this is this is the. safe this is the safe route. You lo that. thing in there, >> right? Like you know you're not going to. end up you're not going to end up on uh. >> on Sports Center for the wrong reasons. >> Not don't don't end up next to 50 Cent. That's that's the goal. You walk out. there, don't end up next to 50. >> Yeah. I'll tell you though, if you do. end up next to 50, it's a pretty cool. spot to be. It happened to me one time. It was uh it was one of the coolest. nights of my life. But there's also. >> it's Yeah, it's maybe the only time you. don't want to be an exhibition.

>> I think so. I appreciated you saying. seemed like Minnesota made the right. decision there and then you said I. debated saying anything [laughter] right. there in real time. You go through what. we go through every single day right. there in uh in real life. Okay. Tell me. a little bit about is it do or doodoo? I. >> do. >> Come on Pat. >> It wouldn't be It wouldn't be Doo. Come on. You know I would. [laughter]. It wouldn't be. >> You know, we wouldn't do it. >> Give it. Yeah. Take a little smell. Take.

a little smell. Those are They're. fantastic beans. We Yeah, it's it's. special. Oh, yeah. Why don't you just. throw it in their mouth? It's good. >> What should I be expecting in the flavor. here, Coop? What should I be expecting. here? As I. >> [laughter]. >> uh. >> like right now, I don't know. Crunchy. Crunchy. Uh, why are you doing this? Why. are you doing this to yourself? Trying. to find the flavor profile. I want to. showcase people how good it Brazil and. Brazil and Colia. This is good. So, this. is the stuff that we import here is top. 1% in the world. >> You're you're only going to be getting.

good. You're only going to be in the. best in the world. So, >> feels like. >> um if you eat them like this, I guess. you're getting the top 1% crunchy. [laughter] coffee beans in the world. There has to be there's a top 1% of. crunchy coffee beans. >> I really as well. So, >> I'll tell you what, I I don't recommend. doing that too many times, but if you're. going to do it, do it with Dodo. >> You can get Dodo right now. Dodo. coffee.co right now. It is available. >> You can just chew them up and you just. take a swig of hot water and [laughter].

coffee on coffee. Really coffee on the. go. >> Switch it around a bit. It maybe. [laughter]. >> this is something you should little. packs of them. >> Little pack. So, I just dump it in there. and get the hot water. Yeah. >> Yeah. and you just do it like really. really creating like a to- go coffee. situation where it's like fantastic. coffee. I don't recommend that. >> I do feel like I got a little Colombian. bam in me right now. Feels like it really went. Yeah, you. know what I'm talking about. A little. bit of little Colombian bam.

>> I don't know what you're talking about, but good for you, man. Dude, I'm glad. that it's getting I'm glad it's hitting. the bloodstream. >> I know. >> Yeah, we know. [laughter] You know, you. know, we know you know what we're. talking about. Not saying you do, but. you do know. Um, this a dodo blend. Okay, it's a medium dark roast. Notes: milk chocolate, orange citrus, medium. body. I could have said that myself, but. I don't want to disrespect it. Dodd. coffee.co. >> Okay. D O D O C O F E.co. Uh, love what you're doing. I appreciate. the fact that you and the lady are.

chasing uh something you uh appreciate. and love together. And uh good luck. I'll continue to eat your coffee and I. hope you have a great [laughter]. offseason going into training camp, brother. >> Awesome. Thank you, Pat. Appreciate it. >> When do you report? >> Uh, I'm leaving today and we're we're. reporting Friday. >> Okay, >> let's go. >> We're back, dude. Yes. >> Let's go. >> Let's go. >> Hey, I know you guys want to fight each. other training camp. That's like kind of. your guys' way. We need a couple. highlights so we can go Oh, you know, so. like that's what we need. We need a. couple highlights.

>> Yeah. Well, you know, we got the hard. knocks thing going, so if it happens, it's going to be on camera. >> No pressure, dude. [laughter]. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. By the way, you should be wearing. a Dodo coffee suit in that thing. everywhere you go. >> Every app. >> Every app with a with a maybe a QR code. that can go right to your website. >> I'll see what I can do branding wise. I'll see what I can what I can get done. >> You're the man. Cooper cut, ladies and. gentlemen. >> Thank you guys. >> You taste the flavor profile. >> Yeah, it's unbelievable. >> Jacked up. >> Yeah, we'll be back on the other side. Be a friend. Tell friends something.

nice. But it is great to be down here in. TTown, Alabama. Now, let's do a little. history here, shall we? This is uh. what's your name? >> Gabby. >> Gabby, you're a senior here, right? >> That's correct. >> And what is your major? >> Chemical engineering. >> Okay. Okay. Uh have you ever kicked anything. before? >> No. >> Okay. But you said you want to do it, not get somebody else because.

>> because I camped out for so many hours. with my friend and I got lucky enough to. get picked. So, let's go for it. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> All right. >> We love that, Gabby. $300,000 if you. make this kick right here, Gabby. Okay. >> Oh my gosh, [cheering]. >> that seems fair. >> I don't know what a chemical engineering. degree costs, but hopefully that'll help. towards it all. >> My parents would love that. >> I'll throw in 200 as well. He started to. $500,000.

>> All right, Gabby. >> Okay, [cheering]. >> good luck. We're pulling for you. 33. yards. All you got to do is make the. kick. Good luck, Gabby. >> Okay. >> Any final thoughts? >> I love you, mom and dad and brother. [laughter]. >> Love that. Mom and dad, hope you have a. good time. Ladies and gentlemen, Gabby. Matthysse, chemical engineer, senior. here at Alabama, will attempt to win. 500,000. It's come to this, huh? It's come to.

this. >> It's come to this. >> Yeah, this Why'd you smack me in the. face? Kurt just smacked me in the face. How about this? How about this, Gabby? If Kirk Herbstreet can throw that. football through those uprights right. there, we'll give you $300,000. [cheering]. >> Are you okay with that? >> 300,000. If Kirk Kre can throw it. through those uprights, former Ohio. State quarterback.

>> No warm up. Full suit for Deb. [cheering]. [laughter]. Get down. Get down. Get down. [cheering]. >> Congratulations. [laughter]. [cheering]. >> Hi. >> It's getting even more pricey. Kirk Curb. Street. I did not know you had that in. you.

>> Oh, that's crazy. >> Gabby. Gabby, it's for you, your mom, your brother, the whole family. Congratulations and Kirk. >> Good on you, man. It was close. Back to. you. Jeez. Way to go, Gabby. >> Hey, what a moment. You know, I love the. fact that Gabby wanted the experience. You know, blue-eyed Buckeye still got a. little sing in that arm of his.

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you're of age, >> I'd tattoo it on my face for a small. price. >> How small? >> I tell you what, I think we're at that. >> How small? How small? >> I know. A lot of people are gonna. >> I don't want to War Dogs this number. So, you tell me. >> We're kind of in the middle of one of. those situations somewhere right now as. well currently. And uh for those that. don't know the reference, I'd recommend. you watch the movie War Dogs. >> True story. >> True story. Yeah. They were only like. 200 $300 million under the next closest. bid. So that means they cut themselves. out of 200 300 million in doing.

something absurd and insane. True story. It is crazy. But you never you always. want to know what's possible before you. are. >> I don't think now is a good time for. this conversation. >> Probably not. Get your comps. Make sure. you get probably not a good time. >> Look around the neighborhood. Get your. comps. >> Bingo. Yeah. >> Nine. Your NFL vet Darius Jay Butler is. >> good to see you Debb. How you doing pal? >> I'm doing great man. What's that little. gadget you got over there? >> This thing? >> Yeah. >> Inspector. >> It's a little touchcreen thingy. We. haven't done it. It's been here for a. few weeks now. We haven't really dove. into it yet because I'm not comfortable.

with it. It probably making a debut. during football season. >> Okay. >> You're probably going to see this little. uh. >> let's not use all these stupid sports. >> Well, this is a good doohickey. >> I think that's a good way to describe. this doohickey. It's not a gimmicky. doohickey. No, this is this legity. doohickey. Here joining us now is a man. who's not about the doohickeys. >> He's more of a what a call guy. >> Yeah, but I I I assume he used to. >> Yeah, he's a hickey guy for sure. >> For sure. Ladies and gentlemen, college. football national champion, Super Bowl. champion, Rder Cup winner. Ladies and.

gentlemen, AJ Hawk. >> never understood that whole situation. I. don't I never understood that. Middle. school kids popping it. Like, I don't. get it. >> Me neither. I'm going to be honest. That. that was uh certainly a fascinating. situation. Uh you know, a lad would walk. in from a great evening and maybe around. a fire the night before and all of a. sudden it looked like he'd been attacked. by 30 leeches on his neck. >> Yeah. >> Turns out it was just it was just Lisa. She was attacking him, gnawing at him. Was she Was she pulling for blood? What. What are we doing here? I don't know,

man. That's pretty cool. You look like. you have a disease. You should take care. of that. But. >> love disease. >> Maybe you guys are going to have sex. [laughter] That was AJ. I know over. there in Centerville, Ohio, you guys. were sucking the [ __ ] out of each. other's necks back in the day. I bet. >> No, I told you I never I never got the. the gimmick either way. Giving them, receiving them. I don't understand the. situation with the hickey. >> That's why you wore a cowboy color. Cover them up. Yeah, cuz he had so many. hickeys. This guy was Mr. Ohio. Imagine. how many people were probably walking up. to him. >> Oh yeah. Give me that neck.

>> Yeah. Let me suck that Adam's apple. [laughter]. Get underneath that jaw. >> AJ diary of a polarizing figure coming. out August 14th, brother. We have a. date. Pretty excited about that. I made. that announcement this morning on the. internet. Now, you know, with everything. happening in the world and everybody. telling me how terrible of a person I. am, it felt like a good time to let. people know I know that you feel that. way about me. I actually wrote a bunch. of songs about it. So, August 14th, 13. songs coming out. I wrote this entire. thing, AJ, over the last like 20 years. or so in my notes section. A lot of very.

personal stuff in here. Finding my. singing voice has been fun. That has. been a blast. And then all the. incredible people in Nashville who have. assisted and helped me kind of piece uh. all this together. I'm so grateful and. thankful. I mean, there's a bunch of. people to thank and I'll certainly do. that. But um yeah, I'm excited, AJ. This. will be a fun. I think I got heat. I I. think they're good. I'm very excited, >> man. Good for Hey, why not? Like if you. want to do it and you care about it, why. not? Why wouldn't you go out there and. do it? Like that's happened. Hasn't that. happened with you a million times where. like, "Oh man, that's crazy. He's doing. that. Oh, it's actually good. Look at.

this. Look what it turned into." Like it. could easily be that. >> Yeah, it could easily be that. It could. go the other way as well. You know, there's been a lot of thought. Obviously, there has to be a lot of like. uh you know, what's that called? Whenever you're exposing yourself a. little bit, vulnerability. >> Vulnerability. >> Boom. There's a lot of that in a lot of. these songs, you know, because I I I. write in um bars, you know, and and I'm. not talking about in actual alcoholic. bars. I'm talking about like bars is how. I kind of write. I think people call it. journaling and diary or whatever for. like the last 20 years in my notes. section. I have 13 songs coming out. I.

got another like 40 probably in my notes. section that I just kind of, you know, when I'm going through something when. something's crazy, I try to get in there. and try to piece some things together. I've always had incredible respect for. the lyricist of the world and people. being able to tell story through song. and rhyme and everything like that. So, I've uh I got a lot in there. I'm I talk. about a lot a lot of things that are. being said about me at this exact moment. are going to hear my responses through a. lot of these talks. It is uh because. this these types of situations have been. happening through my life, I think, in. our life, in our existence as a.

business, but literally since like. elementary school, I've had people that. just don't like me because I'm too loud. and everything like that. So, I've kind. of been dealing with this my whole other. people label me a polarizing figure. It's like I don't want to be a polar I'd. like people to like me. I don't but it's. like no you're polar polarizing figure. this guy's polar it's like I'd rather. not be that'd be cool but it's just kind. of literally been my entire life. So the. diary of a polarizing figure which was. actually uh suggested by one of the most. talented musicians I've ever seen Alex. who plays the keys and the synth who was.

in tracking. He was like this is kind of. like your diary cuz all these incredibly. talented musicians down in Nashville. they track everybody's songs. So, like. on the album, the music that you're. hearing, the guitar, the bass, the. synth, the keys, the drum, the banjo, the fiddle, you name it, they're all. being tracked in these studios. And um. the people that are doing the tracking. and playing it aren't necessarily the. people that you see on tour. Okay? The. people on tour are playing the music. from what they are creating there. These. are like the best musicians on earth in. Nashville. The people that did did mine.

made my words come to life, uh let alone. Ernest introducing me to everybody and. helping and assisting in this entire. thing. These dudes are unbelievable. I I. we got I I think we have like the best. guitar player on earth played these. things. And I'm not like a super it has. to sound like this. It's like how long. you been playing guitar? Uh my dad was a. band leader for insert name of blah blah. blah. I've been doing this my whole life. or whatever. It's like you I think you. can Why don't you go ahead? >> Yeah. Explore the space. >> Yeah. Why don't you go ahead and. [laughter] do it? And it's like in all. the interest.

>> drummer he was not there was he was not. he was not in the tracking house. obviously. Yeah. He he he would have. been an interesting conversation. >> Thanks for keeping him alive, Debbie. Appreciate it. >> Always. >> Yeah, I don't necessarily love what. that's going to lead to immediately from. this guy's brain within the next hour or. so. But it was a incredible experience. Uh it's uh very very cool to kind of get. it done with and I'm excited for people. to hear it. But obviously there's a lot. of confidence stuff that comes along. this. The last couple years I've been. wanting to do this. We finally got to a. point where it's like, "Yep, let's run. it." And uh shout out to everybody that.

has assisted. And I think the songs are. pretty good. I think the songs are good. We got different styles of songs. >> How many How many songs on this? >> 13. 13 songs. >> Nice. And they all sound like Was that. for a reason or is that just how many. you have? >> That was how many you want to put out. >> That was how many I thought were like. good enough. >> Okay. >> People should hear. >> any features. >> No features. >> Okay. >> I always wondered why like um are. >> should Now on that note, >> JCole, >> on that note, >> Luke [ __ ] immediately comments under.

this and says. unforgivable that I wasn't asked about. this. If I would have known, Luke Holmes. could have got on to a song if I would. have asked and not, you know, I would. have certainly done. I think there's. going to be others that I may or may not. have talked to Booé this morning who was. like, >> "Wow, >> we're making a song.". >> And it's like, "No, no features, Boo.". No, but uh literally no features. And um. I wrote the whole It's It's very. fascinating and interesting and I'm very. thankful for the music people being as. nice to me and kind to me. We'll see if. they are still on August 15th, you know. We'll see what everybody's thoughts are. then. But I I think we got some good.

[ __ ] mostly because the people that. were tracking it are so talented and I. don't think they've ever just been given. like an open canvas like, "Hey, just. kind of. >> just do your [ __ ] man." And they killed. it, dude. >> I I was I I always thought this like. when people put out albums and they put. like uh say it's a 20 album record or. whatever, 20 song album. Uh they always. put like their best song at number 17. >> Yeah. I gota put I got ones. Yeah. I got. And then so people keep going. What are. we doing? >> No. On that note, I think all 13 are. good.

>> I think all 13 are good. I think all of. them are good. >> Bangers only. >> Okay. There's a couple that are that I. did not necessarily love that we've kind. of got rid of, but yes, I'm definitely. putting my favorites at the beginning. Now, there's a story normally told by. some albums on why songs are. >> Yeah, you're right. I'm a s guy. >> Yeah. For for us though, yeah, we are we. need people to stick around after they. listen to the first one. So, we are. going to attempt to do that. But there's. a lot of different genres all in country. rock genre which has kind of become now. But you're going to hear some influences.

from blues. You're going to hear some. influences uh from pop. You're going to. hear some influences from the islands. You're going to hear some influences. obviously from rap. You're going to hear. some influences from there's a lot of. that. And it's because of how talented. the musicians are. Actually, we think it. should maybe go like this. Don't you. think? >> Yeah. Do you think that? >> Yeah. I do. There's a couple guitar. solos in here that this guy Derek just. dropped out of his brain just out of. nowhere. And I'm like, as soon as he got. done recording it, I hit the little. microphone that gets back there. I'm. like, "Thank you so much for giving. that." Like, I have no idea why you just.

did what you did, but that's awesome. If. this song ever gets onto a Guitar Hero, nobody. >> That's the one. >> That That is going to be uh And then the. next song, he would get in there and. he'd listen to it. The words, "Oh, this. one's a little bit more grungy, huh? With the lyrics, a little bit more. serious." Yeah. Okay. Let me and it took. him like two times and be like, "Yeah, all right. Run that back. Let's go back. eight bars. Let's go right before the. curse. Flip fly. Turn me up here." And. then and. I'm like, "Oh my god, that's on my. song." Yeah. Is that just in your back. pocket or how how does that kind of go?

I'm just feeling in a moment or. whatever. So I'm like, "Fuck. Thank you. for doing that." So I'm excited for it. I think they're good. I think they're. pretty good. There are some that are a. little worrisome though. >> What What are you worried about? >> In what way? >> Something's already on the album, right? stuck. >> Yeah. I mean, it's not completely. uploaded. >> Hayes in a barn. >> Yeah. Haz in a barn. >> Hayes in a barn. There's been a lot of. work. Gumpy and I have been uh multiple. states through this entire thing. A lot. of different journeys. Gumpy, I. appreciate you riding alongside, by the. way, this entire time. It's been a lot. of uh interesting days in all these.

studios and stuff, learning and talking. to people and how talented they are. There's some songs that are going to. cause some [ __ ] though. I mean, you. know, >> you got some diss tracks in there. >> Yeah, there is. Yeah, there there's some. uh you know cuz I write these things. like let's say I wrote one song when I'm. like 21 or whatever. Okay, but something. and then as I get to 28 I find that in. song good notes. Okay, song good is the. note where I just have all my bars. basically and I see something I'm like. oh this actually is good for what I'm. in. So then I continue it at. [clears throat] like 28 then I'm like 34.

continue it and then like 39 now with. kids I continue. So there's a couple. songs where there's like, you know, like. different versions of my life I'm kind. of writing in there. And then there's, you know, some of these versions I guess. I just really wanted to murder some. people. So. >> yeah, sure. >> There and there's some, you know, talentless suits might need to find a. new scam is in there, you know, a couple. different times in different kind of. genres. So everything that's happening. right now. to me and to us, it's like I have an.

answer August 14th and it's in song. form. And I want to let you know, I wish. that you didn't hate me, but I. understand that you do. It's kind of. been happening forever. And uh literally. all we're trying to do is just live, baby, >> cuz we're all going to die. >> That's right. >> And that's a pretty everpresent uh thing. of this entire album as well. So, I'm. excited for it. I'm pumped for it. I'm. thankful for it. And uh August 14th. August 14th. >> Here we go. >> August 14th. >> Need you to learn the lyrics so you can. sing with me. That's been a whole. another journey.

>> Yeah. >> What do you mean? Well, there's four. stages to uh singing, brother. It's the. respiration, the vibration, uh what the. resonation. I wish I was born. I wish I. had it. I'm sorry to cut you off. I It's. one of those I wish I had that musical. talent like I was born to be able to. sing or even I tried to play. instruments, man. It's not easy. >> So, what I've been told is you can find. your singing voice. >> Okay. Now, we're going to find out now. >> I have now recording it. You know, they're able to uh I'm able to do like. 50 takes. Okay. When I perform these.

live, which we do have a date for my. first live performance, that's what. we're preparing for here. That that is. what we are getting you ready for. But. from my understanding, it is a trained. skill and you do have a singing voice in. there somewhere. You just kind of got to. find it or whatever. But it's all about. the respiration, the vibration, the. resonation, and the articulation. That's. basically the four piece. And you're. breathing from here, you know, and we. got to relax everything else. We kind of. got to let the vocal cords work, you. know, cuz they do this bad boy. We need. that there. And you know, you know, you.

need to really make it happen. So, I've. been I've been going to work, man. I. I've been going to work on it because. the live performance part is what I. want. Like, that is what we want to do. this for. We like to go out there and. have a good time with people. >> And uh I think we got some bangers. I. do. People are going to hate it. People. are probably going to enjoy it. And hey, that's the life. >> Yeah, exactly. >> A. uh figure. >> Yeah, that is life in the paint. That is. kind of how it goes. And uh I appreciate. everybody that has helped me along this. entire musical journey. Okay. Speaking. of journey, the NFL has had a long one.

You know, a lot of different positions, they have evolved and changed, and. there's been trailblazers and game. changers, and the position of returner. has become one that every team has a. good one. Back in the day, it wasn't. always like that. There's just a few. around the league that were game. changers. A lot of coaches maybe didn't. want to invest a lot of time in special. teams. And there was a couple tweets uh. that happened over the weekend about, hey, name a returner that doesn't get. enough credit. And I saw Debbuck go. Pac-Man Jones. And I was immediately. like, "Yeah, you're right. Pac-Man Jones. doesn't get enough love." And I don't.

think returners as a whole get enough. love. So, we wanted to start, you know, a little bit of a top fiveish list, if. you will. Today is going to be punt. returners. This is not kick returners. This is top five punt returners in the. history of the NFL. AJ, do you. understand what that means? >> I completely understand. I don't think. everybody will though. >> Okay. So, [laughter] kick returners and. punt returners, two different things. Okay. Now, granted, there are some. returners who play both positions. For. instance, Devin Hester was also a. kickoff returner, but he was also a punt. returner. He has 14 punt return. touchdowns.

>> Crazy. >> Okay, Devin Hester is in the Hall of. Fame. Devin Hester is not on his top. five list. Devin Hester is Devon Hester. Okay, we we had to make that decision. Okay, cuz it was uh you only got five. spots hereish. We we kind of rolled with. and there's no Devin Hester is the guy. So, there's no reason to even have him. on there. He will be on every single. graphic, but if you have 14 just punt. return touchdowns in your name. >> Oh, come on. Who put this? >> Oh, no. That's [ __ ]. >> Why would we put the ball to Deon. Hester? Get that thing out of bounds,

guys. >> Oh, it's so easy. Maybe if the wing. would block somebody, they'd be able to. kick that out of bounds. You know, that's part of the problem, >> right? You're probably right. >> But Devin Hester obviously league of his. own whenever it comes to returning, changed the game. We all respect it. We. all appreciate it. We all love it. And. he's in the Hall of Fame because of it. So, he lives in his own world. Now, that. punt right there, you can't do to pass. Okay, now that's Chicago, very windy. If. you put a ball in the middle of the. field to Deon Hester, you're in trouble. If you put a ball on the ground with no. real hang time to Deon Hester, you're in. trouble. And I believe that's Chris. Cluey there who had an incredible career.

with the Minnesota Vikings experiencing. that nightmare of a windy day in Chicago. and Deon Hester standing back there. Here's a Cole Qu I mean Hester got. everybody. >> Okay. That that is just kind of what. we're saying. So he lives in his own. world. We can all agree on that, right? >> Oh yes. >> Yep. >> Legend. >> Go. >> He took a kickoff return back on Adam. Venitary in the Super Bowl. Obviously. remember that. We're talking punt. returners. >> They got a great unit, too. I know Devin. Hester is the gop, especially Chicago. Like Peanut Tilman used to be out there. I think Chris Harris, like legit dudes.

who play legit snaps on defense, we're. out there being like vice guys. Like. they they put their all into the team's. unit. >> Now, you can tell me better, and I think. AJ could as well, whenever you have a. returner that can house it, boy, that. helps everybody's effort level on the. return team. I mean, you can see it and. you can feel it whenever they believe in. a returner. >> Absolutely. I me and Edelman got drafted. the same year and I took pride anytime I. was on the field but especially when you. had a guy like Edelman who you know was. dynamite every time he touched the. football he definitely. >> actually you said you needed to special.

teams and you tried to get. >> Oh I did I did but if I'm on the field. [laughter] it was Jewels. >> I'm actually on one of these as well. >> We'll see if Edelman makes this top five. shall we? Uh because I have high respect. for Julian he's taking one back on me. So I I certainly know that top five. >> Yeah we we'll see. We shall see. All. right let's get to number five shall we? Here's the number five returner of all. time. Uh oh, it's actually. >> three guys. >> Okay. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So, we couldn't we. couldn't uh we couldn't do a just five. once we started doing the math. Uh.

X-Factor Dante Hall game changer. Put. him in there for sure. The human. joystick uh was beloved and is beloved. in Kansas City still because of what he. was able to do at the returning. position. He was a stud. He was. fearless. He was fast. We certainly have. him in our top five and he just made. that punter look very stupid. I don't. love that. Also, Pac-Man Jones. >> That baby Pack. >> Pack never fair caught a football. Okay. And uh I played against him one time. I. tried to hit him a 70 40 yard punt, 35. yard punt. The guy just would never do.

it. Absolutely fearless. You know, there's a lot of things that Pac-Man has. done in his life that's not necessarily. perfect. I think he would even. acknowledge that. The world knows that. But there's a reason he was able to play. for like a hundred years in the NFL. because of how phenomenally athletic he. is. And also it was on display in. special teams. Shout to Pac-Man. Have to. have him on a top fiveish list at punt. return if you're going to have anybody. And then Deion Sanders. I mean if he. focused full time on returning, he would. be probably much higher on this list. But you're talking about whenever he.

went to Atlanta, I think the first time. he touched the ball was at the returning. position. He hosted it. I believe. whenever he was in uh San Francisco, similar situation. Dallas, same thing. Talk about it, be about it. You know, if. you look good, you feel good. You feel. good, you play good. You play good, they. pay good, they pay good, you live good. And if you're high stepping in front of. the 50, I think uh all those things are. going to happen. Dion prime time was. spectacular in special teams, especially. at the returning position. >> Yeah, he was different. Some of these. guys on the list, like if he would have. like a full-time returner, he would have.

probably had 40 uh kickoff and punt. returns total. since he was so dynamic. on defense, you know, he he didn't get. as many. You'll probably see that theme. with some of these players on the rest. of this list. But yeah, Dion was. different. Obviously, Pac-Man and Dante, all these I mean, I'm I'm intrigued with. the rest of the list. This. >> All right. If that's number five, who's. number four in our top fiveish punt. returners of all time? Oh, a man who has. a Heisman and a Super Bowl MVP. Now, the. Super Bowl MVP comes from him taking a. kickoff back to the crib. So, you might.

think that's the case. Now he's got. eight punt return touchdowns as well. So. not only was he a filthy kickoff. returner, also punt returner. Man, as a. Heisman and also a Super Bowl MVP. Desmond Howard has always been a problem. with the ball in his hands and in the. NFL as a punt returner. That was a nice. throwback there. I like that they're. getting creative back in the day for. that Washington. Um. >> No. Yeah, that was the Redskins at the. time. >> Okay, >> you can say it. Wasn't your decision. >> No, that's literally what they were. >> Wasn't my decision, you know, [clears throat]. >> unless you want to change history. Heard.

they might be going back. >> I don't think so. [laughter]. >> Are you sure? >> Great return, Dez. Way to go. >> Ever since just the super quiet. I don't. know, guys. I mean, there's been a lot. of petitions. There's been a lot of. noise. Who knows how that goes. Desmond. Howard though, number four. And uh I'll. tell you, I don't think people know just. how great Desmond Howard was enough cuz. I'll walk into something and Dez will. say something about football and.

somebody will shoot it off at like. college game day. Some [ __ ] producer. [ __ ] will just like shoe it off. >> And they're [snorts] like, I can't. believe he said that. And I'm like, hey, that guy's allowed to say whatever he. wants. That that guy right there, Desmond Howard, is allowed to say. Heisman and Super Bowl MVP. Also one of. the greatest returners and could have. played any other position. Desmond. Howard, absolute stud. And that being. the most historic Heisman pose. potentially in the history to seal a win. over Ohio State is just special. We love. Dez. He cracks the top five. Let's go to. number three punt returner in the.

history of the NFL, shall we? Oo, Darren. Sprouls. Now, I'll tell you this. This. caused some debate for Darren Sprouls. being up here. >> But I'm going to say. no punter wanted to punt to him when. Darren Sprouls was back there. Changed. the game. so small, so shifty, impossible to see, so fearless, and a. guy that was willing to do whatever to. make you pay. I put Darren Sprouls up. here over some others that are going to. be pissed off, and we will address them. But he was special, and Darren Sprouls. had an era where he was dominating.

games. I love everything about it, AJ. >> Yeah, he's awesome. I was able to I. guess not I was not lucky, but I got to. play against Darren Sprouls in college. and the pros when he was in college. the. guy we were, trust me, everything we did. was how do we find a way to contain this. dude as a running back, receiver, slot, whatever they're moving. But yeah, when. he got the ball back there, just watch. like I just love watching him move his. legs and like you're not supposed to be. able to be this quick and how he's crazy. powerful, too. So, it's not he you're. usually bouncing off of him the first. couple guys as well. So, I have a ton of.

respect for how he plays. >> Yeah, Darren Sproul's number three punt. returner all time. Who's number two punt. returner of all time? We have. Antonio Brown. >> Okay, this doesn't get talked about ever. with Antonio Brown. There's a lot of. things talked about with Antonio Brown. Obviously, people talk about on the. football field his work ethic, how he. does extra work in drills and how. nobody's ever seen anybody practice as. hard as he practices. Well, me as a. punter lined up against him. That's. Shane Leckler goat lining up against. him. Nobody wanted to see him back here. Absolutely nobody. If he was a full-time.

returner, that's that's what we're going. off of. If this man got every single. punt return that his teams had, he would. have been what? Second best all time is. where I I think he would have been. second best all time. I got a chance to. tackle him one time and I got a chance. to get smoked by him one time. Antonio. Brown had no fear. He was explosive. He. was fast. He had great vision. His hands. were ridiculous. And uh the boys loved. running for him. So I put Antonio Brown. at number two. And I I think more people. need to understand that we don't need to. run this one. Okay, look at the score.

38-10. >> Four minutes left. Everyone already went. home, too. >> Can you go back to the beginning just so. we can see what it was? Fourth and one. Okay, we're not going for it. We're down. 28, Chuck. >> Yeah. What do we do? >> I had my [ __ ] cleats untied. Okay. I. I literally I go up to Chuck. I go, "Hey, we're not punting, right?" Like 38. 10. He's like, "No, absolutely not. Unless we absolutely have to, which. would mean like penalty, like fourth, whatever. Fourth and one." And he punt. team. I'm like, "What are we doing?" So, I'm literally tying my shoes as I'm.

going onto the field. And then I look. back into return number 84 Antonio. Brown. I'm like what? And then Yeah. Bang. Yeah. I didn't even touch him. Didn't even touch the guy without. supposed to be. Then he would go on to. obviously do this. Hi. That lady had no. idea what's happening. Yeah. And then, you know, packed a couple of those two. Feels like that's a good returner. celebration. >> Tough tackle right there for you. Come. on [laughter] now. Can you go back? >> Can you go back, please? I mean, what am. I supposed Yeah, my shoes were just And. look, he set me up, too, cuz I got.

everybody to go to goes into space. >> Well, listen, >> my entire thing, I've explained this a. thousand times, bait and tackle, just. like a fisherman. I would bait returners. into thinking slow white punter. >> He's going to run by me. Okay? So, I. would always get them to think that they. could run by me. In the warm-ups, I'm. talking to them. Hey, don't run me over. today. [laughter]. Run by me. You know, just plant a seed. You know, I'm trying to get them so they. run by me. Right here, I think I got. him. Stupid is what I'm thinking. Stupid.

Antonio Brown. I'm going to close this. I'm going to get him. And he he sticks. that thing. It's like, yeah, right, dude. Now, did I make a Could I have. caused a fumble, right? >> Pretty close to poking the ball out. >> Yeah. Yeah. I [laughter]. Philadelphia. I actually got one out. >> It sparked a comeback. >> Philadelphia Eagles. I I uh I got one. out on a kickoff return. Guy came around. the field. I did the basketball punch. Sure. Around him. >> Boom. Punches it. It goes out of the. sideline. Nobody says a word. I thought. it was the most athletic thing I've ever. done in my life. I'm walking off the. field, people pissed. It was a long. return. I'm like, I [ __ ] punched.

that. >> Should I have turnover? >> Peanut, tell me. Are we even going to. talk about it? But yeah, this is this. was a tough day. This was. >> to your point, I believe. >> Tough day. >> I was looking at his stats earlier. because I knew we were doing this. obviously and I he only returned kicks. the first like five years of his career. He did not return kicks like 16 17 when. he was the number one wide receiver in. the league. Fun fact, obviously this is. we're doing punt returns here, but his. first touch ever in the NFL was a kick. return touchdown. So, I mean, he was. like, if he would have done just done. returning for his entire career, he. would have been unbelievable. That's. what people thought he was probably.

going to be in in the league when he got. drafted. It was sixth round story. I was. actually with him when he got drafted. Sixth round and you thought that was. going to be his path. Mike Wallace, they. had I think drafted Emanuel Sanders that. same year. Yeah. But Antonio, I think he. was the first one to end up getting. paid. But like you said, just like we. said with Dion, it's another guy who. didn't have those same opportunities. because he was so great at his offensive. or defensive position and he had the run. where I mean that he should in my. opinion based on what he did on the. football field. No doubt first first.

ballot hall of famer. >> Yeah. And and now granted Bill Bich's on. a first ballot hall of famer for a lot. of other stuff. So who knows how that. whole thing goes. But me and AB was. always very good to me. I always like I. talked to returners before games. Me and. AB always talk. I tackled him one time. on the sideline. I think AB was uh I. think he respected that. But man, I him. smiling while running at. >> Hit me with one of those and then just. striding out. Four minutes left to go up. 45 to 10. >> First of all, Chuck,

>> fourth and one waving the white flag. >> I should have won under center. I should. have won under center and just tried to. dive. Yeah, >> I should have overth. Hey, coming up. Let's go. Fourth and one. Somebody's. going to try to get a first down. >> Eight yards on a sneak. But I'm happy I got to be a part of. that. What's that? >> I'm He had to sub himself like. >> No, no. >> Tomlin sent him out there. >> No, it was Danny. >> Danny Danny. >> Danny Smith. >> Danny Smith is [ __ ] prick. >> Smell practice. >> Exactly. Special teams coordinator. Danny Smith. Um, >> now with the Bucks, >> he Yinszer legend. Chews a lot of gum.

Everybody knows who he is. He's a stud. He's been a special teams coordinator. for a long time. He and I know each. other very well. He's a Pittsburgh guy. I'm Pittsburgh guy. Special teams. We do. the entire thing. And I would always. tell him, I'm like, "I'mma hit you with. an onside kick tonight. I'mma hit you. with one." And obviously, we got the. fake against him. We did the entire. thing. Like, he and I had good banter. like that. So, literally, I look over at. the sideline when Antonio Brown is. announced as the returner and I look. over and he's just chewing his gum. And. he's he's going to get one on us. He. knows that he's going to get because our. guys didn't have our shoes. I I mean, we're literally going out on the field.

with no. >> Did you see the cover? I had a great. coverage team. >> I like this effort. >> Yeah, but I had a great fourth. That. group is a incredibly different. Look. how fast he is, man. >> Yeah. >> At least he didn't give you to feel that. snap, too. That snap was off to the. right. >> Thank you. I mean, Overton didn't know. you snapping. I mean, we were all kind. of caught up. >> At least he didn't kick you in the face, though, cuz he did do that, too. >> Yeah. And I don't like that people put. my face in there. Whenever they want to. say bad stuff to me, they say, "Remember. when Antonio Brown did this to Pat. McPe?" And then it gets a 7,000 retweet. It's like before I can I never played. for the Browns. [laughter] Please, can.

we move on? All right. number one punt. returner of all time in my eyes as we. judge a with a collective vote, but. mostly through what I thought, no doubt. about it, Tyreek Hill. >> This is the same thing as Antonio Brown. >> Tyreek Hill and I don't know what he's. going to be whenever he gets back. healthy and everything like that. That. punter right there, Shane Lackler. He's. the goat in my eyes. Should go into the. Hall of Fame. When he does, we will all. celebrate in a big way. And so will he. He will have probably 40 to 50 beers. that night. He said to me, "Uh, hey, have you played Kansas City yet? Have.

you punted against 10?" And I'm like, "No." He goes, "Okay, as soon as you get. the snap, you turn and you punt that. [ __ ] into the stands. You don't even. give him a chance. You put a ball on the. numbers, he's going to be back on the. other sideline before you even get your. head up. This guy's unbelievable. This. is just like Antonio Brown. This is just. like Dion Sanders. If Tyreek Hill was a. full-time punt returner, he'd have 500. touchdowns in a way he could do it. He. was built to be a returner. I mean, obviously great wide receiver, but his. body type and what he does, he's built.

to be a return. >> Yeah, the combin I don't think there. Well, I know there's never been the. combination of speed and quickness in. one guy. Like he would, you know, Darren. Sprouls, he didn't have the same long. speed that Tyreek had had the same. probably score area quickness, but yeah, once around the seam it was over with. And once again, this was a what was he. like a fifth round or sixth round, late. draft back, you know, he went to a small. school or whatever, but got in there. I. think I remember years back I think. Jaylen Ramsey might have been talking. [ __ ] about him like, "Oh, you're you're. a special teams guy. That's how you make. the Pro Bowl." And then obviously he.

goes on to have, you know, unbelievable. career. We'll see if he can bounce back. and kind of be back to that form. But. he's unbelievable anytime he touched the. football. >> Okay. Now, let's get the guys that are. going to be pissed about this list. >> Okay? Cuz there's a lot of those guys. We had to add them to the list as well. Uh ladies and gentlemen, here are the. guys who are going to be pissed. Matt. Caf, he has the second most touchdowns. in the history of punt returning. [clears throat]. I never seen it, but he's unbelievable. >> Great player. >> Mitchell. Brian, he really good. He He. has like the most kickoff and. >> Brian Mitchell.

>> Punt return yards in the history of the. NFL. >> Exactly. >> I see you, Brian. I should have done a. little bit more. We realized quickly. that you should be on there. And that's. why I want to let Mr. Mitchell know he's. probably the reason why we have the. entire guys who are going to be pissed. down here. Christensen, Up Church, Megot, and then Julian Edman there at. the end who you mentioned there. In my. eyes, at one point I Julian Edam as the. best returner I've ever seen. >> just because he always got at least 15. yards and that's a nightmare. Like if.

you're I'm looking I'm looking for a. fair catch. That is what I kind of. became. That was the punter I was. I. think I had uh to your own horn here a. little bit. I had zero return yards. punting and kicking off like into a. October. Like I no return yards against. our team. Like absolutely not. Fair. catch, kick out of bounds. >> That was before touchbacks, you know, it. got soft where people just started fair. catch. >> Yeah, exactly. We're hitting moonshots. >> Turners hated fair catch. >> Yeah. And they hated me, you know, cuz. it's going to be a boring day. But I.

would sell it to him. Good. This a. win-win. >> You fair catch, you don't get a fumble, you do good. I give up no return yards. We kind of just pass this off to the. offense and the defense. Let's be These. are all conversations I'm having, okay, before games with returner. And Julian. Edmond never talked to me. >> Really? >> Not one time. >> Ice cold. >> Ice cold, dude. Standing right next to. him. >> It's Jules. >> What's up, man? Hey, you're killing it. back here. One ball in his hands like, "Hey, don't. run me over if we kind of get in a field.

together." Catches two. Nothing. J. straps open. Can talk. Okay, this is not. like he's locked in there. Boom. Then. catches a third, hits one of those, and. then he's gone. I'm like, that's He must. not have heard me. So then we go then we. go on the other side, you know, because. you put it you put it back the other. side. So I go hit him on the other side. I'm like, "Hey, man, you're absolutely. crushing it, you know, like this. This. is pretty cool." Doesn't even didn't. even look at me. Took the first ball, gone. I'm like, "Oh no, this might be. probably And. >> this guy's locked in.". >> He did. [laughter] He did. He almost got.

two on us. He uh he was Julian Edmond. was a problem because he was just trying. to make it, you know, quarterback, however I can get on the field, whatever. the case. No fear. He caught that thing. and was just immediately getting in. It's like that's worst case scenario for. cuz if you get a couple guys blocked up. and you have somebody that just hits it. immediately, it's like that's at least a. first down. That's at least 10 yards. And it's like he would find it. He was. unbelievable. So, we know he'd be. pissed, but just know that it was a. very, very, very, very hot debate before. he came live.

>> Yeah. And he's another guy that did. first five years or so just special. teams. Like he he made that jump kind of. similar to AB like we were talking about. where then he became like a 100 catch. every single year guy after the welker. debacle and everything. So imagine if. some of these guys just like AB and. Tyreek if they just did returning it and. be nuts to see what their stats would. be. >> 14 people on our top five list. Congratulations to all of them. >> Welld deserved. Joining us now is a man that I would put. on this list as well. He's the uh voice.

of College Game Day. He's the face of. Thursday Night Football on Amazon. And. he's also the voice in the soundtrack of. college football for all of us. Old Blue. Eyes. home run big dong hitter out of. Centerville, Ohio. Ladies and gentlemen, Kirk Herbstre. >> How we doing? How we doing guys? >> How are you, Herby? You look fantastic. You're glowing almost. Is it because. football season's right around the. corner? >> Yes, I'm fired up, man. Can't wait.

Looking forward to it. I love that. I. love those debates in the summer, you. know. Great. Who's the best returner of. all time? I'm glad you finally got to. Brian Mitchell. I know you never never. went against him, but um he's at the top. of the list for me along with Desmond. I. mean, obviously Dez. >> Well, so Brian Mitchell, we'd like to. say we gave him his own category like. like we we did create that strictly for. him. Like, hey, who I loved your Edelman. story. Was Was he the only one that. never acknowledged you?

>> Never. Yeah. Every single one. That's. why anytime I made a tackle with. anybody, you normally saw like a a. friendly embrace because they were. always telling me like, "I should have. ran you over." Then it's like, "Yeah, should have. Too late now. Let's go. ahead and get out of here." It was. always like a a good relationship. Julian never talked to me ever. Pat, I. want to ask you when you when you are a. player in the NFL, typically I don't. know AJ, how you feel about this and. guys, but usually the punter is like the. last hope. If a guy gets loose, you're. you're kind of counting on the punter to. save it with you because of how physical.

and aggressive and and your personality. Were you ever part of the coverage with. your special teams coach or were you. always like the traditional punter kind. of in that safety valve? It was always. safety valve. Always safety valve. There's a middle area there you don't. want to be in. Kevin Huber found himself. in that that area. You That's where. >> no man's land. >> You don't want to be in there at all. But I did start getting blocked. >> which I think is a massive comp. So that. that I I started. >> But when you depleted that guy on the.

sideline, it just. >> Well, the one that I mean it just it. just was like viral even back in that. day. I'm sure you gained a reputation of. like this isn't this guy's a little bit. different. >> They blocked me. Yeah. They started. blocking me. So, like, uh, that was a. big compliment. That was a huge. compliment to have somebody come up and. lock. >> Uh, Holiday. Yeah, Holiday was the big. time hit. I love Holiday. Thank you for. doing that. I hate that that happened to. him cuz he's got to live that every. single day because of this and. everything like that. That was a huge. hit for me, obviously. And. >> and here comes the video one more time.

[laughter]. >> No, but the first guy that came to block. me, it was a big deal. Like, he comes up. to me and I go, "What are you doing?" He. goes, "I got you." And I'm like, "Whoa.". I literally say that. Whoa. And then. it's like, "We're just dancing here. I'm. not going anywhere. I'm not going. anywhere. I'm not going anywhere." And. then I go to the sideline. I'm like, >> they blocked me number. They are. blocking. That means we got to have. somebody. >> Yeah, >> we got to have somebody somewhere. >> Make a tackle. It's out of 20. >> Yeah, [laughter] this we might have a. guy somewhere. >> Kickers getting blocked. >> It was awesome. Huge compliment. I I I. had a coach come out. I think Jim Hunter.

when he was at San Francisco told me. he's blocking me. He said, "We're. blocking you today. You're not tackling. anybody." And I was like, >> "Oh, he had cleats on. He had the whole. thing.". >> Came up to me and told me. >> Maybe the only punter in the history of. the NFL that that had a blocker assigned. to him. I I'll tell you I when it was. happening in real time I never been more. compl like I felt like such Yeah. Now. granted if that guy wanted to he could. have. >> Yeah. >> if he wanted to [laughter] which we do. not want you know. So we are whoa whoa. I'm not going anywhere. I'm not going. anywhere. The first time I ever got the. brother-in-law you know like in uh do.

the entire thing. Then you use that. >> I've seen people do that. Yeah. Then I. then I joke the guy. Yeah. One time I. got a guy. He's coming to block me. around [snorts] him. Tackle. >> See that? That's what you don't want to. do. I got to line you up next punch. [laughter]. >> I knew it was coming. Yeah, I knew it. was coming. There was a guy coming from. this side next game actually and I Okay, and we're getting out of here. Yeah, it. started getting a little dangerous. >> I got a I got a question for you for. everybody. What percentage of the result. of a game do special teams play a part.

in? Because I think fans. >> 33 position. >> they they No, you think 33? Now the old stat the old stat used to be. um the stats that matter most if you win. them. Obviously score is a stat. So. that's one of them. Turnovers was number. two most indicator of who wins things. and then field position was the third. like most the clearest indicator on who. won the game. >> I don't know if it's like that anymore. >> Yes it is. >> I would I would for. >> I think explosives I think explosives. for and against are a big thing too. >> I think so too. I think explosive plays.

have become a big deal. Sabin's big on. that. He's like they they need more. They need more. They need more because. the stats are telling them that. But I. do believe field position still. Uh. >> yeah, the difference of a drive starting. on the 21 yard line as opposed to the 31. yard line. That's huge. And when you. look at the stats for defense, you know, obviously it's one less first down, but. it's big when you actually look at it. I. remember Chuck and and MIJ will go over. those things, you know, week in and week. out because, you know, drive home the. importance of it for sure. >> Especially with how kickers are now. That's the cuz like there there are some.

teams who you legitimately need to get. two first downs if you start at the 30. and like you got guys who can go out. there and make 70 yard field goals and. like I I don't think it's ever been like. that before. >> And then a play a block punt. >> Yeah. >> A field goal of kick return like that, you know, we played Green Bay Sunday. Night Football. I think the opening. kickoff, Jordan Toddman took it back. Like that that changes the game. instantly. >> Toddman, what an awesome dude. I hope. he's good. Uh we uh I like anytime we. get to compliment any of these. returners. They don't get enough love. The amount of like fearlessness that. they have to have is absurd. And uh.

let's talk about football, Herby. We're. close, brother. Obviously, SEC media. days are happening currently. Everybody's talking about Lane and. what's going to happen with LSU. Obviously, Michigan's getting a new. athletic director. SEC might break away. What do you think is big news right now. as we head into season in your world? The SEC potentially breaking away from. the NCAA is crazy to think about, but is. that just a leverage point? I don't. know. What do you think kind of where. we're at? >> Yeah, I think that's just talk. I think. that's just talking season type stuff. I. mean, if the if the SEC breaks away, my.

guess would be that that Tony Patiti and. the Big 10 would would also break away, you know, and and maybe the ACC and Big. 12. I I don't think the SEC I think that. may be leverage. I I think that might. have been something that was said. I. mean, I watched Greg and all of his his. talk when he when he addressed the. media. Um, it doesn't sound like, you. know, the Super League or breaking away. is is number one priority or that's like. the goal. I it wouldn't be surprised if. they can't get help and they don't get. some some traction on trying to get.

Congress and the Senate to try to make. some decisions to try to help them from. a federal standpoint. If that if that. ends up failing, then then I think you. start to talk about, okay, well, what's. the answer uh going to be? But um if the. SEC breaks away, I don't think they. would break away alone. This is just my. opinion. And live in their own world. I. just I think that's just fodder. I think. that's just people talking right now. I. I think that you know, you get to early. August, by the way, the World Cup, I. texted you all the time and I know I I.

didn't know anything about anything. three or four weeks ago. I always kid. you and and Gumpy about Oh, soccer. Oh, hey, they scored a goal. >> Got a goal. No, that is what what you. used to say is they almost got a shot, >> almost got a goal. They almost got I. mean I I'm like the the guy that least. interested in watching a soccer match. and then I watched and I don't know if. it was because the time zone and the. games were live playing here in in North.

America or what the case, but I was. freaking consumed. Yeah. >> With every game. I didn't even I didn't. know players names other than the big. stars, but I don't know if it was just. the the passion of it, the uh pageantry, the the pregame ceremony and and you. know the the national anthems and the. way the players would sing the national. anthem. >> I just college football. You love the. college. >> It it reminded me of college football,

but I think even even another level. I. mean, it was insanity. And I didn't go. to any of the the matches, but I'm a. thousand% hooked um on watching that. I. tip my cap to all the the the different. stadiums that um I mean, it just seemed. like it was in this world of fights in. the stands that go on video at Major. League Baseball games or the NFL. It. just felt I don't know. It just seemed.

together. >> It was a special experience. I think we. all we all in it was a special. experience. I don't know if you can ever. duplicate that honestly like if it was. come back. >> I really don't I don't I don't think I. don't think you can but and I thought. Fox did a great job the pregame just all. of it was fantastic. I just really. appreciate it all. The problem is it's. over. >> and being a Reds fan their season ended. in late April. >> That's what I was going to say. Hold on. That's what I was going to say is. >> Yeah. I mean Reds they they they they. [laughter] are done done.

>> I talked to them I talked to them for. you. I I try to rally S and the boy. Hey, Herb Street Herb Street's about to. jump off a cliff. Need you guys The. World Cup saved you, I think, cuz the. Reds were killing you. We were very. >> gave you three weeks and now now I'm. ready for NFL. When's the Hall of Fame. game? When is the two weeks from. tomorrow? >> Panthers and Cardinals reported to camp. >> I I got to get to I got to get to the. Hall of Fame game and then and then I'm. home free to February. But Red's. baseball is is just a a disaster and it.

has been for 13 straight years. So, um. it it just kills yourself. >> After 13 straight years of this. [ __ ] you need to realize you're. pissing in the wind. He's talking to. himself. It will not change. The Red's. baseball season is midFebruary to early. midmay. That's it. This season was every. >> mid is a bonus. Midmay. God, that'd be. huge. [laughter]. >> I feel bad for you with all these. tweets, okay? Go watch some soccer. Get. some preseason football magazine. Go on.

summer trip. Anything but deal with this. nonsense on a daily basis. It's over. Time to move on. >> Hey Herby, we were we were reading four. of these from you a day when the Reds. were playing when the World Cup came. >> Crushed. >> I need to be on this show. I needed to. be with you guys, man. I mean, it's. >> not not all of us are Tai who every team. he has is like chasing a championship. I. mean, that must be a lot of fun. They. never win. But. >> Iowa Iowa, you just know Iowa is going.

to always be Iowa. Like they're never. going to win four games, right? Correct. They're always going to be 8 n 10. Catch. some catch some Magic, maybe make a run. to the playoff. >> His Yankees, you know, you know, the. Yankees season doesn't even start till. September. You know, that's when they. start to get serious. True. True. >> So, um I I don't know, dude. I I'm a. Columbus Blue Jackets fan, Cincinnati. Reds fan, and it is hell. It is just. living. >> Hey, thanks for your support though to. sports. That's right. >> We need people like you. >> I I follow it. I cheer. Um that's my.

problem is I care too much. I need to I. need to get to that stage where you just. don't care anymore. >> You tweeting about the Reds and then. getting pissed at all of the modern. baseball because the Reds are bad was a. fun little time on the internet for me. to watch you kind of. >> Bro, well I don't know who you're I. watched your double play form. I You're. not a diehard baseball fan. Ty, I think. is a diehard. Who's your diehard. baseball fan? >> We got the baseball boys. Ty and Tone. >> Ty and Tone. Ty and Tone.

>> All right. Let me ask you. >> the playoffs. By the way, >> in in the in the earlier years, you go. back as far as you want. Guys, guys. could run. Like there was like athletes. were welcome in Major League Baseball. You know, you hit the ball in the gap, guys were running or plays at the plate. Guys were stealing base. It was just. action. Now with I think it with the. exit velocity and the launch angle, it's. all home runs or strikeouts and oven. mitts like that. That's that's all there. is in the current game. Major League.

Baseball has a massive problem in my. opinion. And I've talked with some. people that are involved with MLB and. >> and they told you wrong, right? I I saw. a lot of people coming after you saying. you're you're wrong and and I thought. you were potentially just caught up in. the red stuff that you were attacking. all the baseball. Sounds like you think. all. >> I am a baseball junkie. I'm the guy I. don't need a clock on the freaking game. I can sit there. >> and sit there for two and a half, three. hours. >> I used to. And it's like, oh, the game's. over. You know, you go to a baseball.

game now and it's like third inning, you. know, we can get there. We can we can. get there. And it it never used to be. like that. I there was because there was. so much going on in the game. It's just. it's a different it's a different era. right now. >> What do you What does he mean by that, Ty? Can you speak to me? I think by by. and large I agree with a lot of that cuz. it has gotten out of control with the. exit velocity and like teams want guys. to hit homers but to like Herby's point. like 10 years ago good teams you'd look. up and down like their their lineup and. there'd be three to four guys maybe.

hitting over 300. You don't see that. anymore. There's maybe one guy hitting. over 300 and usually he's right over it. Like they really do prioritize, hey, we. want this guy to hit 50 homers. If he. strikes out 200 times, that's okay. base. running is really bad with with the. exception of like a lot of the small. market small ball teams. Uh fielding's. really bad. I mean, the pitching is so. good. That's a big that's a big part of. it. But a big part of it too, Herby, and. you know this is if the Reds were, you. know, in a wild card spot right now,

you'd be all in. And it probably doesn't. feel good that Chase Burns, their best. player, >> you know, they might be shopping. >> Oh, no. What's coming to the Pirates? >> No, no, no, no. Definitely not. >> No, no, no, no, no, no. the Red. What's. going on with the Reds is they're. they're kind of like a AAA team where. they their stars get good, their. contracts run out, send them out to LA. or New York. All right, that's that's. basically where they where they'll end. up. They're not going to stay in. Cincinnati. >> I like that you're uh trying to change. baseball for the better. And hopefully. the Reds can hear this and understand.

that there's a man who is on a war path. now for your entire sport cuz you guys. >> He doesn't care. Remember, let me go. >> I'll [ __ ] move the team to Florida. Shut up. >> That's [laughter] Yeah, he said that on. opening day. >> Move to Nashville. Nashville would love. them. >> That'd be awesome. >> Well, that's him trying to get him. >> That would be. >> Yeah, cuz he's in there. [clears throat]. You see? So, he's trying to get to a. couple games so he can do the two three. >> The Grizzlies are going to be play. playing some games there. >> Memphis, I've learned some things about. that particular situation. >> Sounds like No,

>> I don't know if it's going to be as easy. just to move Memphis to Nashville. I. think there's going to be some paperwork. that's going to be scanned through there. that was kind of placed in in there. allegedly. >> How How's everybody's summer going? How's everybody doing? >> Great. Fantastic. >> It's been hot in the kitchen a little. bit over about the last 24 hours or so. >> Sure. Sure. >> But it's uh. >> I saw Yeah, I saw that. >> It's actually maybe his fault. >> It is definitely his fault. >> How come nobody's saying that? >> It's part of what he's talking about. >> Now they will. [laughter] Now they can. >> It's this guy. Think about it. Guy's. trying. >> the guy. >> No, I'm talking to this guy. Yeah. AJ,

make sure it's Make sure it's understood. which guy we're talking about. We're. talking about this [laughter] guy. Thank. you. >> Centerville alone. >> This guy? >> Yeah, you. And nobody's talking about. that. That's crazy. Jeez, >> I'm just hanging out with Peter. I I'm. doing nothing. >> Shut up. >> How is Peter? >> Wake up, Peter. Hey, it's almost. football season. [laughter]. All. >> those people mad about us having a job. >> They were barking at a dog that was.

laying on the ground in Kirk's office as. they we lose. Good journalists. These. guys are barking at a golden retriever. I've never seen it before. Um. >> dogs are so well behaved. Who are you. picking in the Who's everybody picking. in the national title? You guys at that. point yet? >> West Virginia Mountaineers. >> Who do you got? >> Miami Hurricanes. >> Who do you got? >> Oregon. Ohio State. >> Notre Dame. >> Who's got Who's got Ohio State? >> I do. >> Me and me and Ty. >> Wow. Okay. >> Oregon, Donnie. >> We got Miami, Oregon.

>> West Virginia. >> West Virginia. >> Miamiy's out there. >> AJ, who do you got? >> AJ. AJ, >> I got I got Ohio State. A real tough call by you guys. Favorite. favor. >> We didn't see those. If I Notre Dame was. the second in odds. I wanted to pick. them. >> Herby, who do you got? Fate. I mean, is. that he's your. >> No, no, no. I don't do that. I don't if. I thought that. I mean, they're the. number one pick here. Um, >> hey. >> I'm going Notre Dame. >> Oh, let's go Herby. Yes.

>> Hey, they're saying CJ's the real deal. This kid. >> Real deal. CJ is the real deal. I I like. Notre Dame. I like Miami. Um, I think&m. with with Marcel Reed could make a run. this year. >> What about Texas, Kirk? People say Texas. has the most talented roster. >> I know they do. And I I I just. >> coming out of there. >> I'm a fan of Sarkc. I'm a fan of Texas. I just I'm not a fan of like last year. Remember we had preseason Texas, LSU, Clemson, Penn State. None of those teams.

could handle like the pressure. >> I mean, think about the year all those. teams had. Clemson was another one that. was up there because of Kade Clubnick. None of them none of them had great. years. I think when it's so obvious, it. scares you. And I feel like Texas is. incredibly talented. This will be Sark's. probably his best team. Um but but can. they handle. >> Yeah. >> week in and week out? >> I'm judging their I'm judging their Tik. Toks against Mississippi State's Tik. Toks. And when I'm doing this,

>> right, >> it's not great. I saw that. Uh what I'm. what I'm judging whether or not their. Tik Toks are Yeah, exactly. Who which. one's better? I think Mississippi State. did that version of a Tik Tok better. than them. >> Uh don't like either of them, but I I I. do I'm talking about the Tik Tok itself, but I think Mississippi State did it. better than te Texas as a whole. So, that kind of scared me a little bit. But. once again, I got to remember he's Arch. Manning. You know, at some point, it's. all going to come together for Arch. Manning. It started to at the end of the. year last year. >> I don't Don't you think what he went. through last year, Pat? like it that was.

the greatest thing in his growth and. development not just at Texas but moving. forward into the NFL. I you know dealing. with first the first two weeks it's like. well actually the first week going into. Ohio State he's gonna win the Heisman. he's the first pick in the draft best. player we've ever seen in the history of. football and then goes through some. struggles and deals with all that. scrutiny the media scrutiny the social. media everybody crushing him for five. six weeks and then to get through that.

on the back end like you said and and. finish the year pretty solid I just. think having that behind him is really. going to allow him to to just relax and. play ball this year. And and I think. that we'll be able to point throughout. his entire NFL career to that that first. year as a starter and dealing with that. pressure and how it helped him grow up. I I I think he's going to have a great. year. I just don't know if Texas uh with. all that pressure on them. That's a. tough spot. But Sar, he's been this.

close, you know, the last three years. He didn't get didn't get into the. playoff last I know he got he felt. frustrated and they got left out, but I. I think I think they're going to be in. the playoff. They're going to be right. in the mix. Couldn't win the SEC. I just. don't know if they win at all. >> I'll tell you what, a team nobody's. talking about and you think about Texas. Obviously, you think about the Red River. there. We got a chance to run into coach. Arbuckle in the streets of New York and. what great guy. >> and what Mat. he was with you. I I think at the maybe. the ESPs or wherever he saw you going.

Yeah, we're at Robert Mahan's uh Irish. pub. Uh he saw he saw Sony. He was. walking street. He was not going in. there. We certainly were. He was with a. gentleman who was wearing a Tennessee. Titan shirt. I look at him. I go, "Hope. you guys are good. Been not burning. Colts." Haha. Cuz he's walking back cuz. I was potentially vitamin outside of an. Irish pub or whatever. And he goes, "Oh, can I get a photo?" And I take a photo. with this guy. The guy taking a photo. I. learned while the photos up. That's our. buckle right there. And I have to. [laughter] I have to run through the. entire And I'm like, "Rbuckle. Arbuckle.

Oh, that's Oklahoma. Oklahoma. Oh, offensive coordinator. I go, "Oh, I met. your dad." Cuz I met his dad. And he's. like, "Yeah, my dad still talks about. it." His dad had a big He used to be a. real cowboy. His dad like an actual. cowboy. So before the game day at. Oklahoma, the first one, the man who. meets me is Mr. Arbuckle and he's got. these big [ __ ] boots on. He's got. this huge belt buckle and he says, "You. need to get you one of these or. whatever, Pat." I was like, I I opened. the show with I was like, I just met the. offensive coordinator's dad. He's got a. belt buckle on that's bigger than his.

state. >> I remember. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So, uh. that whole conversation happened, but he. his he's on a fast track. If they have a. good year, Matier was going to win. Heisman Mat was they were going to win. everything. >> He's healthy, stronger. It's like that. guy also offensive guru and from talking. to him, he's very comfortable with where. they are right now. And that team was. very good last year kind of under the. radar. Nobody really talking about that. >> Look at that schedule. Look at that. schedule at at Michigan, at Georgia, Texas obviously in Dallas. a game like. even at Mississippi State that you know.

the Cowbells if that's a night game you. got you're at Florida at the swamp&&M. at home at Missouri uh probably an SEC. if they win all those SEC championship I. mean that is a grind that's got to be as. tough a schedule as there is in in the. sport. >> yeah but BV is ready for them. >> that's what they had last year and. that's why they made it at nine and. three or whatever. >> yeah you're right. >> all right Herby we'll see you on the. road soon brother let's make let's hope. let's hope the Reds win some games for. you. >> nah I move I moved on. I'm just going to. go watch you guys and get ready for.

football. >> Come to the Red Sox. Come be a fan of. the real team. >> Red Sox are on fire. Um, I think the. Brewers are probably going to finally. win it all this year. >> I don't know. Not after today. >> Four nothing and bought him a first. >> They got they got to they got to get a. couple big pieces at the deadline. Herby, maybe Chase Burns. >> Maybe. Maybe. >> No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. That's That's one guy. No, no, no. >> They already got Ladies and gentlemen, that's Kirk Her. Uh joining us now before the heart out. here is uh friend of the program. Some.

call him Junior. >> We call him Rap Sheet, ladies and. gentlemen. He. >> rap. Good to see you. Always on the move. We. like that mobile office. I like that. That's how we're living right now. Obviously, it's the summer. We have. about a minute before the heart out. Any. pressing news that needs to be said. right now? Anything break recently? Did. a quarterback for the Cardinals just. sign a deal? And is he the first rookie. to sign a deal out of all the. quarterbacks? Uh Carson Beck just signed his four-year. $7.4 million deal. Going to sign it.

imminently. One of the quarterbacks that. are still out there. Um you got Ty. Simpson obviously got Fernando Mendoza. Both those should be soon, but Carson. Beck the first Jacob Br. No news yet on. a possible new deal. >> Okay. Is he showing up though? Jacob's. going to show up. We just don't know if. the deal is going to happen. I would I. would expect him to show up and kind of. just stand around until he gets a deal, but the team does want to give him a. raise. They believe he's worthy of it. and deserves it. So, the hope is they.

will come together and figure something. out. >> Yeah, Jacobe is getting paid, I think, like the janitor. 15 bucks. Yeah, I think he was getting. maybe double the cash if he threw a. touchdown. Maybe get an extra granola. bar or something like that. >> Yeah, if he's going to be your starter, you got to pay him. That's just kind of. the business that we're in. That's Ian. Rapaort. He's junior NFL insider for. ESPN. Senior NFL insider for NFL. Is he. a part of the problem? >> Nobody's talking about that. That's AJ. Hawk. We'll be back tomorrow. Be a. friend. Tell a friend something nice.

might change your life. Goodbye. Okay, we're still live. Ian, nobody's blaming. >> I figured that out. Interesting. >> I'm going to start. >> Do you want some Red's news? >> Actually, let's call up Herby. Let's see. if he can take it. Is it good news or. bad Reds news? No, no, no. It's it's uh. it's not actual news, but they were uh. they were all hanging around the. Mariners practice yesterday. >> trying to soak up some uh winning ways. Frank Cona was out there and uh a bunch. of the Reds dudes. So, that's my Reds. update of the day. [laughter]. >> All right, Junior. >> Good to see you, Junior.

>> All right. All right. Uh Herby Junior. has some news for you about the Reds. that might make you feel good. June, can. you please repeat that for uh for Herby. here, please? I'm doom and gloom on the. red legs. What do you have? >> Listen, there's some optimism. The Red's. people, including Terry Franco, were. hanging out with the Seahawks yesterday. at practice, before practice, soaking up. some info, soaking up some intel. So, I. would say uh a lot of optimism there. that they can pick some good stuff up,

right? >> Well, they could hopefully that'll rub. off on him a little bit. And Tito, by. the way, as we know, maybe the best. manager in baseball with his. accomplishments. >> Um but that's good. I appreciate that. Maybe that'll help the 20 what? The 27. season because this one's done. >> All right, NASCAR card. >> The first time you told us the news, you. said he was hanging around they were. hanging around the Mariners, hanging. around the Seahawks. A little bit. different. >> Much different. >> A little bit different. It's okay. You're in a car. Where you headed right. now? >> Oh, whatever. >> Um, we are going to Saratoga to go see.

Train, which is a band. Hey, >> sing debut. >> Banger. >> Don't make it like that. >> That is a banger. [laughter]. >> Pat Mon. >> What year was that? >> Recent.

Hey sister. Hey. There's another thing you do. [singing]. >> You know that song, right? >> Boom. Another banger. >> You know that. [laughter]. >> Jupiter. >> They might play it. >> I hope so. >> I'll tell you what. If they don't, that's awesome. They got a new album. They got a new album, >> which is fair. >> Nobody wants to hear any of that [ __ ].

[laughter]. >> Ref. >> Play driveby. >> When is Seattle getting that deal done. with everyone? >> Hold on. Oh, what's that? Hold on. I'm. sorry. >> Smoked a pack a day. >> Wait, that's me. But anyway, >> [ __ ]. >> You know that's Go ahead. Hey, >> I thought you [laughter]. should be a singer. >> We got August 14th. August 14th. We got. to come out. We got We need you to learn. the lyrics, too. Even though it sounds. like uh. >> I don't necessarily want you to be. singing them, but but we would like for. you to potentially learn the lyrics.

Okay, let's get to football, please, shall we? Good luck with Train. It's. awesome that there's. >> Let me do an interlude on the next. Is. there horse races up every day? You. >> Yeah, just an interlude. >> You still got time. We can record it. today. >> N this one's this Hayes already in the. barn on this. >> No, it's not. We're recording. >> Can I ask you a question. >> today? >> Sorry, I know we're talking about. football. Can I ask you a question? >> So, I grew up listening to rap music and. and you know there's a lot of skit. So, like on the chronic there's like some. really good skits and 36 Chambers other. Does your album have skits? And if it.

does, can I be a part of it? >> Yeah, absolutely. you were a part of my. retirement skit which we certainly. appreciate and uh would never forget. You did great. The fact you held that. news too, that's how low I was in the. totem pole of everything. Okay. One of. the senior NFL news breakers recorded a. pre-record gimmick and did not I I won't. [ __ ] tell you, but yeah, right. It's. super [laughter] We got a lot of [ __ ] to. talk about here, sir. Um I don't know. Hold up. Hold up. I mean 50 had a couple. good ones on Get Rich or Die Try and go. right in there. >> Outcast had a couple on Stancia, though.

>> Eminem had some great ones. Great ones. Adam Sandler had a great one. >> Birdman, the loyalty skit they had. >> We don't have any skits prepared yet. >> Seinfel. >> Yep. >> J. >> Oh, your mother's cooking the macaroni. >> That one. >> Okay. Thank you for that rap. Thanks for. bringing it. >> Where the [ __ ] were you like two months. ago? You know, when we were trying to. piece this entire thing. >> Nobody Nobody asked me. I'm I'm here. I'm a fountain of of album knowledge. No. one's ever called me. I got. >> fountain of album though.

>> Guy's going to a train concert talking. about skits. >> Big dog was on. >> Did you go to Jay-Z concert? >> 30th. >> I was in Portugal. I turned down a. ticket. I was. >> Portugal. Turned down a ticket. >> Wow. >> Could have been you. And. >> I mean I think everybody was there. >> I think literally everybody was there. Imagine rap throwing up the rock. >> Yeah. I mean, it sounds like he grew up rowing. his boat doing that. >> Great. >> I love it. >> Oh, well, you're the blueprint, aren't.

you, Re? Okay, let's move along. Let's. talk a little bit about NFL stuff, which. hopefully Junior will will have. information on. Go ahead. >> You were talking about uh Seattle. Actually, both teams that were in the. Super Bowl. Seattle and the New England. Patriots have some young star. quarterbacks with some deals looming. Uh. when should we expect that getting done. and what do you think those numbers will. be? >> Okay, so uh we'll start with. Witherspoon. Uh that deal is a little. bit further along than the deal for uh. for Gonzalez with with the Patriots. You. know, would be surprised if it's not the.

highest paid. 31 currently per year. New. money is the highest paid. So it makes. sense that Devin Witherspoon would be. sort of the next. I mean, he's a great. player on a great team. They let a lot. of really good defensive players go. This is sort of why you do it. you could. have the money to pay the absolute upper. echelon core. Um, I mean, he's a he's a. physical beast. He's a great player. I. expect that to get done. And then when. Gonzalez, you know, I would expect that.

to be next. Usually the next really good. player jumps the previous really good. player. U, they happen to have the same. agent, so I would imagine the. information is pretty good. Um, so, you. know, both of those should be coming, I. would say, in the coming days and weeks. Uh, speaking of money, uh, Packers just. put out a pretty big deal there. Wyatt, that that feels like it came out of. nowhere. I mean, obviously we're not in. the trenches with the Dline updates, but. that feels like a lot of money at this. particular time of year. How long have. they been working on that? And what does.

that say about ed policies policies? >> Yeah, they have been they have been. spending. I mean, and and they're not. done. I mean, Tucker Craft is the next. to get a big deal. I mean, talking about. highest paid, wouldn't be surprised if. he ends up as the highest paid tight. end. I mean, him and Leo both up. Uh, I. mean, Packers have been they have been. spending, which I mean, first of all, is. good. They got a good team. That's what. you want. Um Oh, no. Am I unstable? All.

right, we're back. Hold on. All right. >> Well, yeah, you are unstable, which is. probably why everybody likes you, to be. honest. >> That's fair. I appreciate that. Um, so. Wyatt last year before his broken leg. was really like one of the better. Dlinemen in the NFL and I think they. learned that like this guy is exactly. what we think and then when he got. injured they kind of went the wrong way. That was like a pretty good show of his. value. So only played 10 games last year. before he got hurt. But they clearly. wanted to get ahead of this and did it. I mean $19 million per year it's a.

pretty legit deal for Devonte White. >> especially in Green Bay. It might as. well be a hundred. Go ahead, AJ. >> Yeah, Rabi, what about any of these. these uh veteran free agent receivers. that are still out there? DeHop, Tyreek. Hill. Are you When could we possibly see. any of these guys sign? Obviously, Debo's out there. >> Beast. >> Yeah, I mean, yeah, there is actually. Digs, of course. >> Keenan Allen's available. Get him to the. >> We lost you, did you? You know, you're.

lost up there in train. >> find some service. that song. >> Please tell Leah to get to where there's. service. Tell her to drive towards. service. Hi, Miss Leah. >> Hi, Miss Leah. >> Kids are not on the wheel. >> We Yeah, we are a big fan of yours, Miss. Leah. But you understand we got a child. here. So, if you could please take care. of him. I know you sent the two kids to. camp, but you got to You're stuck with. this one. So, >> kind of, right? >> You can help him. >> Can you hear me now? We good.

>> Ladies and gentlemen, train. He's going to be so drunk at that. concert. >> Oh my god. Drops drops of booze. >> Probably on Leah's shoulders so he can. see. >> Yeah, he will be right on top of her. shoulders. [laughter]. >> Sorry. I didn't probably train glasses. on. >> with the hat. >> Yeah. Cap. >> Do you think he's got a train hat? Like. a. >> He'll be batting on top of her head like. a little drum. >> Yeah. >> Get me another beer. That's what my kids. do when I when I put them on my. shoulders. >> You get the visual. >> They lean forward. Your neck hurts real. bad. >> I'll tell you what, Junior's having a.

pretty good little run here this summer. >> Yeah. bad. He's the best. He's. >> going on a train right now. >> Mhm. Portugal a couple weeks ago. >> I mean, you think if he put some like. long jean shorts on and dressed like a. little kid, he could sneak in and, you. know, be one of the kids at camp. >> Yeah. He said he saw the Odyssey and he. only paid 12 bucks for a ticket. >> Oh, was it because it was a afternoon. one or the Meta? >> Is that why? >> No, it was a youth ticket instead of. adult. >> Oh, they said he was a child. >> Yeah. >> Go on, little buddy. >> Go watch your lot of conversation about.

that. I guess that one's going to do. really good. Yeah. >> Oh, yeah. >> Good movie. >> Checked again today for more tickets. >> You saw it? >> Yep. >> Oh, you lucky. >> When? Last night? >> No, I took my kids to see it. >> In 70. Did you see it in 70 or. >> got to see it? >> Yeah. >> Christopher Nolan wants to see movie. >> I don't think I know what you mean. >> 70 mm. >> There's only like 16 theaters in America. that can show the movie in IMAX the way. it was shot. So, like Indiana State. Museum is actually one of them. 16. One. six. Yeah. Indiana State Museum is one. of them. So if you see it there, you get.

the full frame and picture and. everything, but if you see it in like a. regular movie theater, it's just like. crop. >> Okay. Gotcha. >> So you still get it, but it's just. >> This is the Oppenheimer fella. >> Yeah, exactly. >> Batman. >> Oppenheimer shot shot the same way with. Oenheim. >> Yeah, he's This guy's an artist. >> Yeah, he's a beast. >> Need to go. >> He says every movie is his last, so he. can put everything into it. >> I like that. And you should treat every. day like your first. Mhm. Hate CGI. >> Yes, he does. >> Yeah. Refuse crashed a real plane in his. movie Tenant into a building. grew a corn field.

>> Yeah, >> and then sold all the corn and made a. bunch of profit off it. >> [ __ ] that is true. >> Bought a corn field so he could crash a. plane into a corn field and then decided. to move all the corn. >> He sold it out. >> Sold the field or the corn? >> Uh, probably the field. I don't know. >> I assume he sold both. They said for the. Odyssey like they did like you know a. big part of it is like ships and like. they actually went out in a ship and. like on like the open waves and filmed. it and like people were getting seasick. and puking and like that's just that's. just kind of all part of it.

>> So people buried under the ground. I. won't ruin the movie but the Trojan. horse which we know about that like it's. it's worth the I mean it's the. three-hour movie. >> Jesus Christ. But it is. >> Chris I respect your art. I can't wait. dolphins in the in the shot that Tai's. talking about when they're out on the. ship and like it was dolphins actually. jumped up and they didn't CGI him out or. anything. They just kept him in. >> So that's why I wonder like are the. dolphins now going to be looking for a. cut? >> Probably. >> They should. >> They're smart though. They probably saw. the boat and they're like, "Holy [ __ ]. Christopher Nolan's full movie. Let's. get it.". >> And I think Chris is probably like,

"Hey, hey, hey.". >> Yeah. >> From top from top. Dolphin's like, "Fuck, I thought we nailed that one.". >> Mhm. >> Poseidon probably. >> Yeah. Could be. [snorts]. >> Turn back around. >> It's beside it. >> Those dolphins are smart. >> Poseid's everywhere. They're pretty. They're aren't they? They're pretty. ruthless, aren't they? They'll go after. you. >> Yeah, they'll hump the [ __ ] out of you, too, if you need to. But they will uh. protect. >> They're always masturbating. Always. >> Who said with no hands, too? I don't. know how they. >> You talked to somebody, they throw the. pool like I I don't know where I was. somewhere, and they said they they throw. pool noodles in there and they're just. masturbating all over that tank.

>> like horses do. >> I don't know how that means, but yeah, that's what I heard. I Yeah, it is kind. of like debunking, but I I don't know. >> if you need to just Isn't kind of. enabling just tossing a pool into it? Because that's kind of certainly. >> exactly what they're looking for. >> Yeah, but you got to get them to you got. to get them to hold two gigantic. tourists that weigh 420 lbs and pull. them through the water and you know when. they're paying $175. >> Yeah, I got to keep the tea up. >> There's a whole black market for it. >> Got to keep that tea up. >> They protect. Now, on a completely. different note that you guys.

are trying to allude to here about the. horniness of dolphins, >> that was hawk. >> That was hawk. >> Hawk did start it. >> I mean, it was accurate information. >> It's a fact. >> It is a fact. [laughter]. >> They're they're sexual beings, I think. >> Okay. Well, these sexual beings also. utilized by Navy Seals and such. So, we. appreciate the we. >> I saw the orca I saw a video of the. orcas last night just beating the [ __ ]. out of a pot of dolphins just treating. them like. >> it's not our Navy Seal dolphins though. >> Uh I hope not. >> Or our Navy Seal orcas.

>> Yeah, we probably got orcas. >> Those are the ones we want. >> Orcas still sinking sinking. >> Mean sons of [ __ ]. >> No. Awesome. You you meant to say very. dangerous. >> But they don't go after humans though. >> No, but they do though cuz they're. sinking ships that people are on. Remember when they were when they were. big tailing that boat? >> Oh, yeah. >> Oh, this is fun. You having a good. little time? They had a a music playing, dancing, probably some food, had a had a. crew working, and then the whales just. like, "Fuck this, dude." I don't like. their attitudes up there. Me neither. Calls a couple of the boys. What is. that? Whistling. I don't know what they. do. >> Yeah. Sonar.

>> Sonar. They come in and just start start. a wave pool and then the boat just. starts moving. It's like, "That's. funny." They're kind of ruining their. life and they're like, "No, no, actually, >> we're trying to capsize this [ __ ]. Yeah, this is fun. Yeah, we're having a. good time." Bang. flip that boat. That. was insane because that had. >> forethought. >> Oh yeah. >> Right. Had to get more. >> Also to rock that thingy. They had to. get it. They had to stick with it. It's. like. >> when did the whales start telling each. other how they sink human ships? Like is. that just a part of like 101 whaling or. is this a new thing that. >> I don't know. But the good news is there.

is zero recorded orca attacks on humans. in the history of Earth. >> Uh that's wrong. Remember blackfish? >> Yeah. In the wild like in captivity they. will kill human handlers big time. They. just sunk the ship though. >> Yeah, but that they don't care about the. humans. They just want to cuz the. propellers are killing or the orcas. They're just looking to raise hell. >> Defending the territory. >> Respect that as well. >> Rest in peace, Jim. You remember he. wanted to fly uh fly? >> Mhm. >> Lolita. >> Lolita. Takate. >> Yep.

>> Miss you, Lolita. >> Rest in peace. >> Where is that? Where is that orca now? >> Dead. >> Dead. Yeah. What do you mean? That's why. >> did it die? Oh, it did die. You're. right. >> Yeah. like a month before he got the. >> with. >> the bomber plane. >> Yeah. >> It was turning into an aquarium to fly. from South Florida to Washington is. where it needed to go. >> Needed to be the longest flight possible. in the United States of America with. this thing. >> Mhm. >> It's not fair what Lolita is doing down. there. Jim said this is not how this. >> what he what he called her a Buddhist.

>> Buddhist. Yeah. >> Buddhist whale spirit he said should not. be living its f her final days like. this. Takate needs help. He was He was. turning a [ __ ] plane into an. aquarium. >> 57 years old. >> Not so sure those pilots didn't kill. Takit day now that we're talking about. it. >> I think those pilots were in for a. pretty big payday. So So was the uh So. is the plane? I I I think that. >> she died at the Miami Sea Aquarium. >> Those are done, right? Aren't the orca. shows done now? Like there's no SeaWorld. big whale shows or at least they're like. phasing them out.

>> I think they're phasing. >> There's concerts there now. >> Say some big artist. What's. >> there some good concerts? You're right. >> Shanty shot it down over there. I think. I saw. >> the crowd's always loving. >> Fat Joe. >> Fat Joe obviously killed it. Hold on. There was somebody E uh E40 maybe he. went in there. >> Yep. >> And then who else? I think BWA was in. there. I. >> did see the Bow. Great venue. >> Oh yeah, it's incredible. >> She knows. >> Middle of the day, too. It's 150 degrees. out there. It. >> has. throwbacks. >> Walk around the aquarium. >> It's so random.

>> So humid and somewhere like in Orlando. or something. >> That's a great pivot. >> Flow rod has been here boys to men Beach. Boys. Trace Atkins, you name it. >> Yang twins. >> Oh my god, man. >> The other side [laughter]. of. >> Oh, what a good time. Insync also been. there. Well, Chris Kirkpatrick of. Insync. >> Okay. >> Yeah, it's a big difference. Yeah, that. is a big difference. >> Yikes. >> Otown. >> Otown. Okay, >> time to bring it. >> They can bring it. >> LFO. >> Oh,

>> summer girls. Summertime girls. Summer. >> Summer Girls. >> Summer Girls there. >> Summer Girls Fly and Summer Girls. So. >> summer girls go. >> figure. >> Yeah, you know that song. You know one. of them. >> LFO. What's that? >> Yeah. What does. >> light funky ones? I believe. >> I believe it's light funky ones. >> They had a banger. >> He's a young. [ __ ] Chinese. girls for the summer. For the summer. I.

like girls that wear crumpy and [ __ ]. >> You heard that? >> TRL days. >> Jesus Christ. >> D butt. >> LF LFO. >> Come on, [laughter]. homie. >> And Heaters. It's It seems like. SeaWorld. >> That was 1999 when that came out. >> SeaWorld's being casted by somebody that. is our age. >> Yep. Sounds like it. >> Yes, for sure. [laughter]. >> Yeah,

>> I got an idea. >> It's working. Yang twins. Come in here. Be [ __ ] great. Shanty, bring her in. here. Insync. Can we get in sync? Get. Chris [ __ ] whatever. >> [ __ ] run it. >> They're killing. We got to get to a. showdown here. >> Shaz, I think, is next week. >> Oh, yeah. >> JC. >> Let me hear it. >> He was in sync. So, whatever. JC shot. >> He was like the number two in sync. >> He was the uh he was the front man. >> He was People would argue that, AJ. >> Yes. >> Yeah. I don't know if we're just handing. out number tw's, right? He was He's. clearly the number two in Inc.

>> And then it was Lance and Chris. >> I don't know. I'd say Joey Fat one was. probably number three. >> Patone. >> Yeah, >> I think Lance. >> You pronounced it wrong. He's a. >> Oh, it's okay. >> Yeah. Unbelievable. >> JC had the most vocals besides JT. >> Oh, big pops in the back. Big pops in. the back. Happy we got you boys. You. should look that up. >> Happy we got you boys. >> What are they What's he. >> That was [laughter] insane. >> Uh Soulja Boy has also performed there. obviously. That's sweet. >> I was cranking that earlier today. >> You. >> not mine.

>> You were like the Dolphins. All right. Um, [laughter]. >> today's winner Wednesday. We'll announce. the winners of the kick that went in. before the break. That's crazy that went. in. And then also the bank shot throw. yesterday, which absurd that that went. in. >> First try. >> Those were nice though because people. were saying nice things to try to win. that. Fake nice things. I don't care. >> I used to say this all the time. >> These people don't. They like because. you have money. It's like, well, I'm. happy they're fake nice to me. It's a. real dick to me like you seemingly are.

trying to be. Okay, I'll take the fake. nice stuff all the time instead of the. real mean stuff. I like stay away from. There's been some really mean stuff. >> There's been some really clever stuff. said about us. >> Yeah, some really good ones, too. >> Really good stuff. Yeah. >> Yeah, >> I respect those. >> Yeah, me too. I We've been reading. through it all and it's been great. Now, I am remembering everybody that's saying. a lot of things and I'm pretty young. being a game a long time. I'm excited to. run into these people. you know, future. times. A lot of people that are real. [ __ ] ass at their jobs having a lot. to say, you know. >> It's the way it goes.

>> It is the way of the world, isn't it? >> Just day one. >> It be like that sometimes. >> Yeah, it do be like that sometimes. >> Time will tell. >> Time will tell. You know, the truth. always wins. It's just kind of on its. own time. >> Mhm. Never wrong. Just too early. >> Did you guys know Rap Sheet grew up a. huge rap fan? >> Yeah. >> Duh. >> Yeah. You see that? >> That's on me. That's on me. >> Yeah. He used to say straight out of. Yale or whatever the [ __ ].

>> Straight out of Columbia. >> Yeah. Crazy [ __ ] name Rap. Sheet. Yeah. He uh he was in there for a. long time. >> In the heart of New York. >> Throwing boats. I'm the king of my. fleet. >> Yeah. Ghost Face Killer actually said, "I remember when Rap Sheet was listening. to our [ __ ] way back in the day.". >> So that was. >> He did probably guy. >> He named Old Dirty Bastard. >> Really? >> Yeah. He cuz they were going to go with. just dirty bastard. >> And then Rap was like, "You know what? He looks a lot older than he actually. is.". >> Hold up, guys.

>> Who said that? >> I didn't know he had that uh pitch. That's great. >> Yeah. >> All right, let's get out of here. Shouts, go uh Ghost Face Gilder, by the. way. That was one of the coolest. conversations I've had. >> Yeah, I forgot all about that. That was. sweet. They were at the SP. I forgot all. about that. >> Yeah, literally just like standing there. and then all of a sudden uh somebody. comes up. Hey, Ghostface Killer wants to. say what's up. to who? Do you? [ __ ] yes. Where is he? And then you turn. It's like there. [clears throat] What's up, dude? Good to.

see you. Hey, man. I appreciate you. guys. Really do. I'm like, I appreciate. you saying that. Am I allowed to say. that you know that we exist? Yeah, man. We love. And then his friends were like, "Yeah, man. We love you." I'm like, "Okay." Went back to the table. I said, "I think [ __ ] Ghost Face Killer said. we are certified, I think, is what just. happened." And we all saluted and cheers. to it. Of course, we had a good time. We. appreciate that. Those moments of seeing. people and running into people is. fascinating because that's when you. realize that there's a lot of people. watching us. >> Mhm. >> You know, >> yeah. >> Not enough in some people's eyes for a. lot of things that are happening, but it.

is crazy whenever we get out into the. world and realize everything that's kind. of taking place. We're very lucky and. thankful to be doing what we're doing, how we're doing, and uh we're going to. continue to do it and just continue to. keep going and hopefully we'll continue. to be an asset to sport or hopefully we. will be remembered as somebody or some. people or some group that we're for the. good of sport. That's what we're here. for. Be a friend, tell a friend. something nice and might change of life. we're in this thing together. >> Thank you. [snorts]. >> Da you have anything to say to these. people up here? >> Love you, Jesus.

>> That was a good one. >> Nice. That was a good one. I mean, Jesus could be right up there. You don't know. It's. >> everywhere. >> That was good. >> Yeah. >> Omniresent. >> Debbut 3:16 says, >> "That's what I was going to say, too.". >> AJ, anything to say to these people? >> Love you, Jesus. >> Boom. >> Uh, Debbot just said that. >> I know. I'm just double stamping. >> Spread the word. >> Okay. So, love you, >> Jesus. >> Yep. >> Yeah.

>> Hell yeah. >> Can't say that. Well, actually, hell no. >> Exactly. >> Heaven. Yeah. >> We should start saying that. >> Heaven. Yeah. E friend, tell a friend. something nice. Might change your life. for him. Sing together. Team on me. Team. on three. For the good sport, baby. 1 2. 3. Goodbye.

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