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this watch Wednesday, December 3rd, 2025. This sports program begins now. Football. >> is magical. We're so incredibly lucky. that we get a chance to chat about it. every single day. We can't thank you. enough for allowing us to do this for a. living. We hope you are having a. spectacular hump day here as we await JJ. Watt to join us here in a matter of. moments. and he's uh entrenched in a. little bit of a battle with the. superstats people where, you know, there's some uh representatives of the. superstat community. Uh a former.

football legend, a current incredible. commentator, Greg Olsen, basically said, "Hey, the two-point conversion thing. went down two scores. It's non-debatable. at this point. This isn't even like kind. of a conversation." And JJ Watt. responded, he said, "Definitely. debatable." I mean, what are we even. talking about? And then JJ, what he. didn't know he was going to do is he was. going to get into a war with every. single stats person. And I think what. Greg Olsen potentially didn't realize. completely is that he was going to get. in more with everybody. That's like. enough with just the stats making. decisions community. So this this came. to a head. We we would like to say two.

incredible football players. >> Yeah, boys. Hell yeah. >> Two great contributors to football, which we appreciate the scrap of what it. should be, what it shouldn't be. JJ will. uh be joining us in about 10 minutes. excited to hear what he has learned. through this entire process because. whatever you're mentions start heating. up by enemies, you learn things through. that as well because they are showcasing. things to you that is letting you know. that you're stupid. And if we know JJ. Watt, I'm sure he saw some things that. he would like to counter as well in. their argument. Cannot wait for that. And obviously, uh, Houston Texans are.

who they are. Okay. And the Indianapolis. Colts might be who they currently are. He called that game. He's, uh, he's. going to be all over everything. Cannot. wait to chat with him. And then we'll be. talking to Nick Khan, the president of. the WWE and also one of the founders of. the new boxing uh promotion, Zufa, that. TKO is putting together. If you do. recall, they had the Canelo Crawford. fight uh in Vegas to kind of launch the. promotion, but that wasn't necessarily. their fighters. They're launching in. January on Paramount. But before that, there is some stuff happening with.

Congress in them where they are trying. to uh change evolve the Muhammad Ali. Act, which is a part of combat sports. and boxing and how it's regulated and. who who's allowed to do what. I think. there's a lot of potential holes in the. Muhammad Ali Act that would potentially. be able to be tightened up through the. Revival Act, which is what they are. pitching. And there's going to be people. that are so mad about Nick Khan and TKO. doing this. But I think if you listen to. the TKO people, it's not the boxers who. are going to be mad about this. Mike. Tyson has come out in support of the TKO.

and Zufa Group for the Revival Act. There's also some people that are. obviously countering this particular. conversation. TKO, Dana White, Nick Khan. coming together to try to put together. boxing in their way in their eyes. I. think they see a sport that they love. that could potentially be better and. they want to do that. We'll hear about. that from top to bottom. And then. obviously he's the president of WWE. Just got done war games out there at PCO. Park. Wow. >> John Cena's uh last time last time is. next Saturday. So, obviously they're. cooking and anytime you have Nick Con. on, he basically knows everything going.

on in every business. So, we'll pepper. him with a bunch of questions on his. thoughts. Today should be a big day. We. also have uh. >> Hayes Faucet. Haze Faucet from on three. and rivals. >> because we are currently in an early. signing day right now and there's a lot. of recruits getting flipped from schools. that maybe don't have a coach still or. maybe a change of what's going on at a. coaching staff. Brian Hartline, wide. receiver coach, offensive coordinator. for the Ohio State Buckeyes. Obviously, we all know the Ohio State Buckeye wide. receiver tree. It is phenomenal.

Everybody kind of points to Brian. Hartline for being the reason why that. has happened. He's an incredible. recruiter. obviously an incredible rec. uh developer of talent and also somebody. that is trusted. He is now the head. coach at South Florida. Congratulations. to him. Well earned, welldeserved. They. thought maybe that would change some. with the recruiting angle. Well, Ohio. State still Ohio State. Chris Henry Jr. actually committed and signed to Ohio. State. He's a 6'6 wide receiver who's. the son of his father who's a wide. receiver legend. Chris Henry, slim West.

Virginia legend. He was uh he was in. Ohio living with Pack and his family. Pac-Man Jones, best friends uh with. Chris Henry since college and through it. all. Whenever Chris Henry passes away, Pac-Man and his family kind of take on. Chris Henry's family, which is an. incredible thing. But he grew up in. Ohio. Ohio State was his uh original. commitment in high school. He continued. to grow though. He was like 6'3. His dad. tall, right? Tall, athletic, great wide. receiver. He was like 6'3. Then he was. 6'4. Then he was 6'5. Then he was 6'6.

and they're like, "Hey, if you get 6768. here, you're not going to be able to. play football really. It's going to be. you're going to be a basketball guy cuz. this kid can take off from the foul. line. Has been able to since like uh. high school basically." So, they didn't. know if his body was going to grow into. too big of a monster to become uh actual. college player. What he did is he goes. to Matter Day over in Southern. California, private school academy, develops, stays 66, gets strong. Then. there's obviously other schools that are. interested on the West Coast, so nobody. knows what he's going to do. he remains. with Ohio State. So, the Buckeyes get.

the next one. That's what we're saying. here. Yep. So, they got obviously the. the baton was passed from I mean, if you. go back to all uh Chris Olive, >> Terry McLaren was there and then. obviously you go Marvin Harrison Jr., Jackson Smith and Jigba, >> Garrett, Garrett Wilson obviously a part. of that. Yes, definitely a part of that. Uh Michael Thomas is in that run there. >> Insane. >> Jeremiah Smith right now. Carnell Tate. is there now. Acha Ibuka is in. So the.

wide receivers, that's wide receiver. unit. >> And that's Brian Hartline's kind of. baby, I think, is how everybody kind of. views it. Now they get Chris Henry Jr. going in there who we think will. probably just go on and take the baton. And does he have a quarterback that's. going to be able to throw to him? Oh. yeah, Julian Sain can spin that thing. So might win the Heisman. >> Yeah, there's a chance. Yeah, there's a. chance that Ohio State's going to. continue to be Ohio State, which is. obviously a special thing. But don't. look now. West Virginia's flipping four. stars. They are. >> five stars. >> What? >> Rich Rod's out there in a portal right. now at recruiting day saying, "Hey,

you're tough, right? You're tough.". Yeah. Why don't you come on? Why don't. you come through here? Muya will move. you. This dude's 6'8" or something like. that. You think West Virginia signing. guys that are 6'8 to be on the offensive. line? Absolutely not. Now we got Braun, okay, who's coming over, which obviously. we saw him light a couch on fire. His. dad Tim, absolute West Virginia legend. Now we got Muya coming. I think we got a. 6'5 guy on the hook. Oh yeah, and we. just stole a fourstar from Penn State. and SE who's an absolute dog in a.

weapon. West Virginia becoming a. problem. Hey, Texas Tech, maybe you. don't leave the Big 12. >> Mhm. >> I was getting attacked for that. yesterday. >> Why? >> Well, because a lot of people were. saying I was holding the wall in the SEC. cuz this is SEC, ESPN. >> Sure. >> Whatever. I was telling Joey Magcguire, the head coach of Texas Tech, that he. needs to get his team the hell out of. the Big 12 and go to the SEC. >> That's why you were saying it. >> Bingo. So, everybody on the internet was. saying that why cuz a team gets good and. has money. They need a good SEC classic. ESPN bum. It's like uh I'm actually. saying this because uh they [ __ ] beat.

West Virginia 49 nothing and West. Virginia is not going to be invited to. any other conference. You know how we. know cuz we tried a couple years ago and. nobody would take us. Okay. The the SEC. said uh the SEC said uh you don't have. good enough grades. And the Big 10 said, "Yep, what they said." And the ACC said, "Yeah, right. We're smarter than both. those places." Big 12 said, "You can. come on in." So, we're kind of stuck. there. And what I'm what I'm very very. worried about this guy just signed a. brand new deal. Okay. Joe McGuire did. >> Mhm. >> The guy that is running this entire.

operation, Cody Campbell and his boy. >> Yeah. Dusty Wumble. >> They're football people who are. billionaires who love Texas Tech. So, me. telling him to get the hell out of the. Big 12 is strictly because I'm a West. Virginia Big 12 guy. Not that I want him. in the SEC. Now, on that note, Texas Tech going to the SEC would be. awesome. Can you imagine? and and they. would be able to I I think you know get. a little bit more prime time games, get. a little bit more operation, but I think. that's around the corner for this Texas. Tech team anyways. Regardless, they're. going to be good for the next 10 years. They got their guy. We love this guy.

Absolutely love this guy. But college. football has been swinging a hot bat. They released their most recent uh. predicted playoff bracket last night, their newest rankings on ESPN at 7 p.m. And uh there's a lot of conversation. Notre Dame sitting there at 10. Uh-oh. Because obviously, you know, this says a. conference champion five, conference. champion 4. There's really no other. atlarge bids from the ACC that are. sitting in there anymore. For the Big. 12, Texas Tech set four if they were to. lose the Big 12 championship to BYU.

Well, BYU would be in there for sure. Texas Tech is not dropping off. Notre. Dame sitting at 10, very close to the. So, there's a lot of things that could. happen for that and more. Let's go to. Hammer Don AP Tone. Notre Dame is in the. most dangerous position is your big. takeaway from last night. All anybody. wants to talk about is Notre Dame Miami. Notre Dame Miami headto-head. That. conversation might be happening, but I. don't think it's going to end up being. good for Notre Dame as everybody has. kind of expected it's going to be for. Notre Dame this entire time. >> Yeah, for a while everyone everyone.

thought they were safe, including the. betting markets. They were like minus. 400 a couple days ago. Um but after last. night, the the committee had Bama jump. Notre Dame after Bama's huge win over. Auburn. Um, so that made them jump Notre. Dame. So now when you look at it, uh, I. broke it down or I was looking at it, I. think the top eight are definitely in. That is goes from all the way from Ohio. State down to Oklahoma. A lot of those. teams don't play or they're playing in a. conference championship, so they're not. going to drop out. Texas Tech, if if.

they were to lose, I looked at it. SMU. was eighth last year before they lost in. the ACC championship to number 17. Clemson, and they did not drop out. So. if you think number four Texas Tech. would lose to number 11 BYU and drop. out, I don't think you are correct. there. So I think the top eight are in. So then you go 9, 10, 11, and 12. There's two spots for four teams. There's two spots for Bama, Notre Dame, BYU, and Miami. Obviously, if BYU wins, they are in. If Bama loses close or.

wins, I believe they are in. So then the. situation would be if BYU loses. So if. BYU loses at number 11, >> possible. >> Possible for sure. Uh they're 12 and a. half point dogs. Miami you would assume. would then move up to 11. Um sitting. right next to Notre Dame. And would that. be headto head? You would think Miami. would jump Notre Dame headto head unless. the committee set some unreal precedent. where headtohead doesn't matter at all.

or if Alabama loses, like how are they. going to drop far enough where they're. out and they put Miami and Notre Dame. in? I don't see that happening. And and. le if Bama loses, are they going to put. Bama and BYU out if both those team. loses in the conference championship and. have Notre Dame Miami in? I don't think. so. It feels like Notre Dame might be. the odd team out here based on if BYU. loses or not and then it'll be Miami and. both Notre Dame out. >> Thank you for the breakdown, Tone. Uh,

obviously a lot can be said about the. decisions that they'll make in the. future by the decisions that they make. right now, but we all know when it gets. in the room, anything could happen. Exactly. >> And if Notre Dame's on the bubble, which. is what everybody's big fear is, we. don't think Notre Dame's going to carry. more weight than some of these other. teams, then it's just becoming a. popularity contest. And then are we. actually getting to 12? Well, Diego. Pavio said, "Hey, Trump, listen. We need. an executive order to make this thing a. 16 team playoff stat." Okay? And I don't. know what all executive orders can do. I've heard about them a lot over the.

last what 16 years. It feels like. they've really come into conversation a. lot. Feels like more so than maybe ever. before, but I wasn't around before. So, I don't want to speak out of pocket, but. it feels like we know more about. executive orders now than we've ever. known in the history of the United. States of America because how often they. seemingly happen because our government. can't really work together to get. anything done. I think I I'm not that's. outside looking in on how this whole. thing comes about. But yeah, Diego Pavey. said, "Listen, send me to New York for. the Heisman. That'd be cool. I think. that's welld deserved. But also, can we. get 16game playoff? Just go ahead and. sign that pen. Let's go ahead and make.

that happen. And then Klay Travis of. Outkick started uh obviously theorizing. it all. I think he could actually do it. So I I don't know who would sue him to. stop them. >> Get politics out of sports. >> WELL, YOU KNOW, EXECUTIVE ORDERS TO make. sports better. You know, have those been. happening since beginning of time to. allow who to play where and and all. these types of things. Maybe. But maybe. just open that son [ __ ] up to 32 team. tournament. >> Why not? and and he talked about uh I. saw Clay talking about um you know there. would be three more games. I guess those. things automatically go to a bid now.

There's more money coming in and the TV. people aren't going to be mad about it, are they? Maybe maybe they sue it. Like. who's going to stop him if he was to. come out today and say. final answer? >> Yeah. 16 teams. >> What would happen? >> I I don't think I mean what would have. it would be absolutely chaotic. Two. weeks out or whatever. Yeah, >> I think now is the time to have that. combo. Uh if you have 16 teams, 20. teams, 24 teams, 32 teams, doesn't. really matter how many teams each year. are really going to win the national. championship. Probably three to four. So.

inevitably, we're just counting our way. down to them. But we would like to see. good games and we would like to see the. best teams be rewarded with an. opportunity and a shot to shine. Talks. to tables here at Boston Conor and at. Tai Schmidt. Uh nine-year NFL vet, host. of Everything DB, Good D, Bad D, Darius. J. brothers. >> Nah. 12-year NFL veteran, uh, former. Super Bowl winning coach, uh, ladies and. gentlemen, a Penn State cultist, AQ. Ship, please. >> AQ, we started that conversation with.

high school recruiting. Uh, because. obviously today's a big day. Uh, you. guys aren't signing anybody to Penn. State. Uh, because all West Virginia's. been doing is saying, "Come to Daddy. Come on down. You don't want to go to. Penn State. They don't have a clue what. the hell's going on. Bears still don't. have a coach. They're the first ones to. fire their coach. They still don't have. a coach. you need to come on down here. They're 138th. I didn't know there was. that many teams that were doing uh. recruiting and stuff like that. You're. you're right above Akran, which is good. because they had a pretty good class. coming. They signed a three star kicker, I think. And then Montana State, they're.

always going to be problematic because. they got the rodeo team competing. against the football team for national. championships over there. So, uh the. fact that you're right above Akran, I. think we're all very impressed with. below Montana State kind of expected. I. I don't think we really uh looked into. the numbers. you were a little bit. >> just a little bit by that. >> by Montana State. I can see that. But. >> they just want to brawl for for the Wild. though. >> Yeah. Come on now. >> Big put some respect on their name, bud. >> I didn't know that. Thank you. >> Yeah. See, so now it all makes sense a. little bit now we have more information. How do you feel, man? No coach. Uh,

nobody's trying to go there. Feels like. all your recruits are leaving and coming. to West Virginia or Virginia. >> We still got We still got four. I just. read that we still have four. So that's. a win. Don't know how that happened, but. four commits. There's still four commit. >> That's kind of like the LSU thing, right? cuz Pennsylvania does have. players that come from Penn State. families. >> Yep. >> That if you're good enough to play. football, you are going to play for Penn. State, right? Isn't that kind of a. thing? I guess there's four of those in. this particular class, but I think. Pennsylvania does have a little bit of. legacy around the state of Pennsylvania.

Not as much as like LSU talking about. Louisiana or Louisiana talking about LSU. or whatever where it's just understood. that Lane Keifin is going to get like. 10, five stars from Louisiana because. they want to be LSU Tigers. Like that is. what your recruiting day looks like. every single year. this congratulations. You're the LSU coach that has come that. comes alongside of it. Penn State. doesn't have it to like what they have. Penn State does have a pool of players. though that want to be Penn State Nines, right? >> They do. But I would like to think that. when my son's old enough and I am a. legacy obviously and hopefully I have.

the opportunity to send him off to that. program. I would like to see them have a. coach. That'd be really cool. That would. be awesome to have a coach on signing. day. That'd be cool. >> Well, I think that actually that's why. all this [ __ ] was happening down at Old. Miss and LSU and everywhere basically is. because we need to know who we are. officially starting next year with this. signing day. Like this is actually what. we're do early signing day but we're. officially doing it right now. That's. why there was a deadline made after the. Egg Bowl for Lane to make his public. decision which was pushed to Sunday. which then becomes that entire. nightmare. But it was all because of.

this and then transfer portal happening. You guys still don't have a coach. Drew. Allard, quarterback. He's posted on his. Instagram story. >> Hey, you never know what you have till. it's gone, you know. >> Oh, no. >> Yeah, that's interesting. >> It's a good point. >> How so? >> Coming. >> I mean, he he. >> Okay. Okay. OKAY. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. All. right. Good luck to Penn State. Good. luck to Penn State. >> Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, who are they going to hire? >> Great question. >> Satakei staying at BYU. Congratulations.

to the Mormons and to us getting a new. deal out there. You know, there was a. lot of rumors maybe that uh the boosters. out in uh Utah weren't going to be able. to or BYU weren't going to be able to. keep up maybe with what Penn State was. doing. Then Crumble Cookie came around. >> and then I think there's a Qualrixs out. there, something like that. >> And then I asked the people out there. that are maybe BYU alum about like, hey, how many. >> big money Mormons are walking around. there? And the number we were told is.

there's at least 60 crumbles walking. around is what I was told. There's at. least 60 crumbles walking around. And. they all love coach Sitake. I think they. love how he goes about his business. I I. think they like the way he coaches. And. obviously he himself is a Mormon as. well. So it's like a perfect fit almost. cuz BYU I think just like LSU with. Louisianans. >> Mhm. >> Just like Penn State with some. Pennsylvania. >> Ohio State. >> Ohio State with Ohio kids that want to. get like AJ once he was given a. scholarship to Ohio State. wasn't even. going to be a conversation anywhere else. just because of who he Mormon kids I do.

believe and there's a lot of great. athletes that come from this religion uh. because I think. >> there's a lot of strapping the Mormons. have quite a look and the athletic ones. are very athletic. >> yeah Puka and then Austin you you just. go through. >> that's the two different. >> everything in between too like it is. >> they have athletes and I think they want. to go to BYU like that's like a a part. of the entire thing is going to BYU. So, I immediately thought like, coach. Satakei obviously knows his situation.

better than me, but he also has a. plethora of recruits that want to come. to BYU strictly because of their. religion. Will that carry over to Happy. Valley at Penn State or does he have to. go do something different? I didn't know. how the fit was going to be, but I think. we're all happy that Satake is there. Penn State still didn't have a coach. though. >> Yeah. >> And they're and they're they may go a. while before they find their guy. >> On that note, breaking news. Brent Key. just signed an extension with Georgia. Tech. >> Nice. >> Congrats, coach. Let's go, coach. Good.

move. >> This is great. This is. >> This is unbelievable. >> Heartline key. Who's left? >> I'd like to throw my hat in the ring. I. will coach the Penn State Nitney Lions. if they need a head coach. >> All right. In a sentence, let me hear. why you are the person to lead the. Nitney Lions into the next generation. >> Thank you, Darius Ber. I have won three. national championships on NCAA 2K video. game that you play on video games. And. uh let me just say I ran the most. efficient offense in history. I had. three straight Heismans as well. And I. also played five years of high school. football. So I mean when you look at the.

entire kind of laundry list of accolades. I have, I think I do qualify. >> And much like what Lane Keifin said in. Louisiana, people want to play for your. systems. You win Heisman's. >> Exactly. You win Heisman. It's. high-flying and it's all about the. players. Players, players, players. >> You could probably do it for three. million a year. Uh, three. Look, I I'm. not going below three, but three is. where we'll start. I'd like to get up to. five, but again, I will do it for. >> You're incentive based, Governor Jeff. >> Exactly. I'll be incentive based. I'll. do what the other coaches have done. As.

soon as I lose the big game, I want my. escalator to activate there once I lose. the big game. But I'll get there. Yep. >> Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, is. a man who might actually be a great head. coach for the Penn State Nity Lions. >> Well, what do you mean by that? Actually. be? >> No, just also. >> Okay. Thank you. I mean, you led your Bulls. I was. watching. You had a good team. >> I watched you work. You worked. I mean, it was a good offense. >> Different programs, too, gentlemen. I. wasn't just rolling with some state. Okay. I had different programs, different state, different. championships.

>> Different recruiting markets. Bingo. >> What's your archetype again? >> My archetype? I'm a motivator, baby. I'll get the boys going. >> He'll hit X whenever you give. motivational speech. He'll give one. >> Yeah. Bingo. Bingo. A lot of this. >> Oh, you're the floor style. >> Uh, more of a circ. I saw Sark do this a. lot. Do this a lot uh against uh Texas. A&M in their rivalry game. >> Sounds like Hunter, you're a check there. too a little bit with 6. >> Well, if if the recruits called for it, I mean, I'll break it out. >> Will you sing baby baby? >> I will draw the line. I'll draw a line.

right there. >> Do you remember that? >> Oh, yeah. Tom Herman, >> we're covering the We had joining us. now, ladies and gentlemen, is a man who. might also, much like you, be a great. head coach for the Penn State Indian. Lions. He is a future first ballot. professional football hall of famer. He's already in the bull ring of honor. He's an incredibly nonbiased commentator. for CBS currently. Ladies and gentlemen, JJ Wall. >> Connor, I would be happy to have you as. my special teams quality control. grabbing the coffee intern. That would. be great to have you on staff. >> Okay. Once again, yeah, the price starts.

at 3 million. So, if that's what those. coaches make, that's where I would like. to enter. But again, we can negotiate. that two and a half with a lot of maybe. a house, you know, like we we can go and. kind of discuss. >> that depends on how many cookies they. sell in Pennsylvania. >> What does that mean? >> I don't know. >> You're talking about. >> I mean $3 million for a coffee getter. We need We're going to need a lot of big. bags. >> Yeah. He already told you what his price. is. You're the one that gave him the. job. >> I don't know what AQ's giving. >> Well, what are you are you um tough to. give when. >> are you throwing your name into the into.

the bag here? Because you could make. five, six, seven million a year. I I. think obviously if they were to get a. huge name, they get a huge name. It's. like what 10 million is the the price is. basically what coaches are getting paid. >> So at Penn State at this stage, I think. they lose a lot of leverage. Probably a. new head coach for college is what we're. thinking probably at this point unless. that rumor about the Alabama Kaylin. Debor situation is anywhere near real, which we don't know, but that would be. crazy if he was to do that. So it's. probably somewhere between.

>> Frank Kelly. >> How do you how do you feel about it? Do. you think he would be a winner up there. in Penn State? What do you think? >> I mean, I I don't I don't know what the. pool looks like. I. >> There is First of all, you're creating. You are maybe in it. >> Well, then then yeah, then then check. He's a He's a head coach that first. qualification made. He is a head coach. who could do the job. Um, no, college. football has kind of lost me. Uh, it's. it's I'm kind of with everybody, man. It's it's uh there's not not because. players are getting paid. I think that's. absolutely right. I think uh you No, you.

bring us in, don't worry. But it's just. there's just it's they got to figure it. out, man. Just figure it out. Like you. can't you can't be trying to get a. national championship and have a chance. to actually do it and then leave for a. chance at national championship. It's. like, >> oh that's pretty wild. I don't know. Just figure it out. >> Yeah, it doesn't make much sense. You. know, uh the calendar is insane. Uh head. coach Joey Magcguire from Texas Tech who. announced an extension immediately upon. getting off of our show yesterday. Could. have been cool to leak that one just. about 10 minutes earlier whenever he was.

talking to us. But we are happy for him. Coach Signetti, same thing happened to. him uh whenever he was on the show. About 10 minutes after he got off the. show, announced a mega signing for. another deal. Also, >> Coach Rule, >> Coach Matt Rule got an extension about. 10 minutes after uh he came on our show. So, that was a good announcement. So, JJ, what we're saying is you could. potentially get a massive deal with Penn. State if you wanted to give your. >> 10 minutes from now. Could be 10 minutes. from now, guys. You have no idea. If I. do, I'll call back. I'll let you know. >> Thank you. Just Thank you. I mean, we.

had a coach on this show that got signed. to be a senior assistant in the NFL and. didn't even find out through somebody. else's tweet. It was like, could I have. got a heads up, baby? Could I could I. have got like a heads up before reading. this on there? Listen, I didn't know if. I was going to It was a conversation. It. was a I didn't make my decision. Yes. >> Old school guys are different. >> Yeah, >> we're in the new age. Everything leaks. out a little early. Old school guy, they. wait till the ink is dry. >> No, I also think the old school guys say. it. Somebody's leaking this, right? Yeah. Shaft is going to do it. Got it. All right, we'll just let him do that.

entire thing. >> I love doing games cuz Chuck Chuck is in. the booth next door and he just knocks. on the windows. We give a little head. He's He's great. >> He's got such good energy. Obviously a. legend. This year is not going how we. thought it would go for Baltimore. I. don't think how Baltimore thought it. would be going for Baltimore. But let's. pivot to another team in the AFC that. just got a huge win. Okay, just got a. huge win this past weekend. I don't know. if you saw on Monday, people on the. internet were making despicable images. They had uh Lucas Oil Stadium and then. they were putting they're calling it the. Stout House. Okay. Which it's called the.

lot house. You heard it when you were in. there. What was your takeaway from the. game as you were calling it? And uh I. feel like the Colts are in trouble and I. love the Colts and I will be at the. games. I'll be supporting the Colts, but. 40% of our offense, I think 35% of our. offense maybe is really dependent upon. at least the threat that Danny Dimes. could run. And now we're at the point. with this fractured tibia that he can't. really move much. Now Houston's defense. is remarkable, but I am very worried. about this Colts offense, which has been.

a wagon for us going forward into the. most important games as we have a very. tough stretch. And on the flip side, feels like Houston, CJ, that defense. maybe clicking at the right time. What. What is your takeaway from the game? >> Yeah. Uh, first of all, it was really. cool to see you and McKenzie there get. going crazy in the in the suite. That. was very sweet to see uh up close and. personal from the booth. The loud house. Um there were definitely moments where. it it got loud and they were into it. Uh. I think the loudest was the booze. I.

mean certainly there were a couple calls. that you know everybody knows were were. difficult calls and the fans let them. know. So that was definitely loud. Um. but the Colts offense it's it's so clear. right now that if Jonathan Taylor does. not carry this offense, they will not. win the games. That is just what you are. seeing play out in real time. It's when. he has over 90 yards rushing, they're. 6-0. When he doesn't, I think it's two. and four. Um it's just any stat, any way. you want to slice it. If he does not run. the ball well, they don't win. They.

can't do what they want to do. And it. all comes down to first down. Shane. Stiken will tell you that. Daniel Jones. will tell you that. If they can't keep. their playbook wide open, if they can't. run their RPOS's, if they can't run. their play action pass game, their. screen games to Tyler Warren, if they. can't keep the defense off balance, they. are not successful right now. And that's. the truth. And yes, Daniel Jones has the. fibula or whatever it may be. Um, but I. don't think that that fully explains. where the RPO game has gone to keep the.

linebackers off the line of scrimmage, to keep Jonathan Taylor's lanes open. Um, so they they I mean three of four is. tough and they're dealing with that. right now both mentally and trying to. find a way to win. Wall Sauce is now out. for a little while. While DeForest. Buckner is still out, um, this is a. massive, massive game. I mean, technically the Jaguars are in first. place in AFC South right now and the. Colts have the hardest remaining. strength of schedule in the whole NFL. So, they have to go into Jacksonville. and win this game. >> I just learned that. I I mean, I looked.

at it and I said that looks really hard. I I didn't look at everybody else's. road. We do have the most difficult path. uh down the stretch here. Is that what. you just said? >> I believe that's what I was reading in. my notes this morning. Yes. I believe. you have the technically hardest. strength of schedule and the stats for. the Colts verse teams that are currently. over 500 and teams that are currently. under 500. Don't need to hear it. >> Is not uh not great. >> Thank you, J. Let's move to Houston. Uh. let's move to the Houston Texans. Team. above 500 and certainly looking good. CJ. made some throws that reminded me of.

like very good CJ. That is certainly. possible out there on the offensive. side. Colin seemingly available. Offense. had some misdirection stuff and we have. a couple injuries obviously which is not. great, but I thought CJ looked good. I. thought the Texans offense looked good. as well. What's your takeaway on where. the Houston Texans can go this year? >> Yeah, I mean I think CJ, he said it. himself. Demo said it himself that he's. still knocking off some rust and there's. a couple throws obviously that. interception that he'll want to have. back, but overall they ran it well. Uh. they got in down in the red zone which.

they have struggled with all year long. before CJ during that three-game Davis. Mills stretch. They started to figure it. out and I think they're continuing that. down there in the red zone. Um but the. defense like the defense is. unbelievable. I mean you got to see it. up close and personal. It's just the. speed and the violence and the intensity. that they play with. And you look at it, they don't even do anything that crazy. schematically. I mean, they had a couple. cool things drawn up this week where. they had Will Anderson off the ball over. the center and he just kind of ran. straight down the tracks. Um, but other.

than that, like Derek Stingley's. unbelievable. Kamari Lacier, Aziz, like. these guys, they just fly around and. Matt Burke has that defense humming. So, it's very, very tough. I mean, the Colts. had not scored under 20 points all year. long as the most potent offense in the. NFL. And the Texans hold them to 16. Now. again, I I'm I very rarely am going to. bring up refs in a game cuz obviously. the Texans had some too. They had a. uncatchable ball and a pass interference. that certainly. >> who says it's uncatchable. You say it's.

uncatchable. I've seen Michael Pitman go. up and get something like that. >> I I don't disagree. I think the angles. on that are interesting, which is part. of the reason that it wasn't brought up. in the moment, but there is that one. camera angle that the ball lands in a. garbage can 15 yards. >> where we were sitting. Yeah, we had a. good angle on that definitely not being. catchable. But Bill Bichc has told us, I. think at the draft that the NFL feels. very terrible saying something's not. catchable because then we show some. highlights of guys making catches and. somebody's like, "So you're telling me. that maybe he couldn't get it?" So what. they're saying is that thing has to go.

into the stands basically for it to be. not catchable, which that one almost. did. That one almost did to be clear. I. do have to give credit here because we I. mean the pass interference, the delay a. game and the field goal that went or the. extra point that went over the upright. Uh we brought in Jean Sertor and it's. very difficult for these rules analysts. to come on here and and say that a call. was wrong because those are their. officials, brethren. Like those are the. guys they've been out there. They know. how hard this is. They know how hard. that job is. And so for Gene to come on. with us and be honest and open about.

what he was seeing was great. And I very. much appreciate it because I think it. does help us in the honesty and trust. with the viewers that we're just calling. like we see it. I mean that extra point. like in the moment it was just an honest. reaction of whoa how did they call that. good? Uh and then you try and slow it. down and try and explain all the angles. and everything but I I get it the ref's. looking up directly at it so he saw. something there. U but at in the moment. live on TV for us it was that was tight. >> Well especially with the timing of it. all to your point. I mean, the delay of. game non call into the phantom pass.

interference into the touchdown into the. missed extra point you call good. It's. like those are three calls all wrong in. a series of like four different plays. that lead to them scoring a touchdown. and taking a huge lead uh in the fourth. quarter. Yeah. So that's why you heard. the stadium and Shane Stike. It was just. non-stop. I mean it was through the. commercial break, it was through the. next stop, it was an entire thing. I was. actually pretty proud of the lighthouse. I was like, "Hell yes. This this is what. it's supposed to do. This is what you're. supposed to do to these people. And now. the refs say we're humans and yada yada.

It's like, well, you got to be better at. calling [ __ ] football games as a. human then for what you just did. >> Dude, I I love that stadium, man. It's a. great stadium. Everybody in Indianapolis. is awesome. I mean, they had a great. little the Chamber of Commerce or. whatever it is. I assumed it was you. sending it. Uh, >> no, no, they're a good group of people, though. Visit Indy's good group of. people. They're good. >> They are. I mean, I had I had stuff for. Ka and Nico in the hotel room when I got. there. Everybody there is phenomenal. But there is a guy, I don't know if you. know this. I I Eagle knew this and I. didn't. So maybe it's just common. knowledge and I wasn't aware. There is a.

man downtown Indianapolis that plays. drums on a bucket non-stop all day. forever. >> Yeah. Well, I don't know if it's all day. forever, but yes, there is a bucket. drummer downtown who has made a lot of. money off of, you know, uh what's it. called? Um busking. Yeah, busking. >> Busking or whatever. Yeah, I he has. gotten plenty of drunk money from me, I. will say, but uh it's not all day every. day. I mean, he takes a break, I think, whenever there's not a lot going on. >> I mean, I I my hotel room was in direct.

ear shot of him, and I don't know if. there were breaks. I didn't catch many. of them uh until midnight after I when I. was watching the Cal SMU game and saw. that was a wild ending there. But uh. yeah, I was I was up late thanks to him. and I got to watch college football that. I had not been planning on watching. >> Hey, shout out to him. Shout out to you. watching more ball. It's good for your. soul. And uh I I feel like you probably. got a lot more information through a. little bit of uh heated exchange. Let's.

go to the tail of tape, please, can we? >> Um. >> Oh, this is good. >> So, this is Walk versus Olsen. Yeah. 40. and 36 years of age. Uh 6'5, 6'6, 255, 288. Is that accurate weight for you? >> Uh, no. Not now. Now I'm like 272. >> Okay. Not to be too exact. I'm honestly. 272. Greg might be a little slimmer, too. So maybe 235. to 272 right now. Whatever the case, a. little bit more ripped. Three Pro Bowls, five Pro Bowls, player of the year,

three of them. Super Bowl appearance is. one. Uh, opinions on stats. Loves them, likes them. Okay, so. >> let's go ahead and uh let's get into. this a little bit. Okay, Greg Olsen is. talking about the modern world with the. modern information that we have with. modern strategy. And I think what you. saw, what a lot of people saw is him. saying it's not debatable at all. Okay. And then you auto automatically come in. like, okay, analytically it's absolutely. correct. But let me debate you here. Now, this obviously spurred a massive. amount of conversation which stats and.

football people have been happening over. the last few years. Where do you stand. on all of it right now? And uh how is. the timeline or the mentions since all. this has started? >> I mean I the the thing that's funny. about this is that I agree with his. stance like I the analytics and the. stats do tell you that I am saying that. that is absolutely correct. All I'm. saying is that there are people who. offer counterpoints to that. So I I. think the non-debatable part is the part.

now an numberswise analytically sure if. you can you can say that the numbers. prove provide no debate. You cannot. debate the math of it. All right that's. fine. But I'm just telling you the. reason that I put that out there was. because there's obviously a massive. faction of the fan base in the NFL that. would like to debate that or at least. offer a counterpoint as to why. And. that's all I was doing. I'm not. It's. just, you know, the analytics and. everything while may be 100% accurate.

and factual, >> it's not 100%. >> That's the issue is it's not 100%. So. nothing is 100%. So therefore, it is. debatable. And even something that is. 100% that maybe we think could become a. not 100%, it is debatable. And I think. that's what you're thinking about. And. the stats people, and you know, stats. obviously have been involved in the real. world for a long time from what I've. been uh told. Now it's happening in. sports media coverage. And the stats. people have a natural instinct because. they've been taught this and this is how. their brain functions that the stat is. the end all beall. But every side has a.

stat somehow. I I've realized that every. side can pull a stat that makes their. argument better no matter what it is. So. it can't be the end all beall ever. Which is what got everybody pissed off. is when Greg Olsen says this ain't. debatable. It's like Greg don't [ __ ]. do it. Okay? You're a football guy. can't have you doing that because humans. and momentum and vibe and everything. matter like that matters in real life in. theory it doesn't in numbers it doesn't. but Greg you know in real life that.

matters so that's why I think everybody. kind of got mad at Greg like Greg you. can't be this this can't be who you are. because you know the humans matter but. on that note the stats people have added. a lot of information for us go ahead JJ. >> yeah and I agree like on a broadcast you. should at least mention why they're. going for two there that the numbers. support it and that the analytics. support it as well. But I also think. that you can mention the opposite side. of it and what fans at home might be. thinking in that moment and the emotion. and the adrenaline of a game, etc. I.

mean, at the end of the first half of. the Colts Texans game this this week, the Texans decided basically that they. weren't going to push down there for. points and instead were just going to. kind of settle and ended up getting. nothing out of it. when they had the. ball with like a minute and 38 seconds. left in two timeouts, they very and they. got a successful play on first down, they very easily could have pushed the. ball down the field. And I discussed. that on the air as to why I believe that. that would be the right thing to do to. move the ball down the field, try and. get points because of everything in this.

game and how much you trust your. defense. Demo Ryan believes that that's. not what he wanted to do. He wanted to. play it safe and conservative, trusting. his defense and going into the half on a. more safe note. He said as much at. halftime to Evan Washurn. That's fine. We disagreed with how we saw that. I. discussed the reasoning for both sides. and ultimately he went his way. But like. to to to for me to stand up there and. say this is the only way possible to do. it. I mean come on. Like there's a. billion different ways things can go. down and there's a billion different. reasons why people do things. >> But we would like to let Greg Olson know.

we love him. >> Oh yeah. >> Like love Greg Olsen. We Greg Olsen. We. love you. We appreciate what you've done. for ball. Let's not forget that you're a. ball person though. Okay. This isn't. video game. This is human. >> Yeah, nerds are getting to them, man. >> No, no, the nerds are good. The nerds. are good. >> sometimes. >> Well, I guess anybody can be good. sometimes. So, it's not just a nerds. thing, but nerds are good. They have. been good for football, I think, and. good for the sports world. >> And some people suck all the time. >> It's a good point, too. >> Like who?

>> Yeah, you're right. There are some. >> There's no need. He educates a lot of people from good. stuff. Yeah, he does a lot of great. stuff. >> But we saw that tweet and we're like, Greg, come on. >> Yeah, if you if you end it with the not. debatable, just mute the tweet and then. have everybody else debate and then you. you just started a great conversation. You. >> I did see that he was responding. So. therefore, there was debates happening. >> So it was technically I guess debatable. is what people it was an Ipso facto. situation. But we would like to let Greg. know we love him and we think he's.

incredible in the booth and we're he was. part of my retirement video. >> That's right. >> So I love Greg Olsen former team. Right. We see this exact for debut down there. in Carolina. So we read this tweet and. we're like. >> greg. >> Greg momentum's real too. Greg, don't. even tell me it's not. I don't need you. to cuz that's what the stats be. >> They got numbers for that though. They. got numbers for that. >> What's that? >> They they got numbers for momentum. They. they. >> No, they say stat they say momentum is. not real. It. >> does not exist. >> Well, no. On they they have Okay. They.

have numbers. I They presented me with. them and I read it all. I I read it all. because I want to educate myself. Maybe. I'm messed up. >> No, cuz you want to battle you read. Yeah, go ahead. >> They have numbers for what happens to an. offense after in each situation. Do they. perform better with more pressure on. them or do they perform not as well? Like they have a number for every single. thing that you want to try and throw. back at them, which is great. That's. fine. That's good. You and I, we've all. been on a sideline. We know what it. feels like on a sideline. We know what.

it's like in the locker room. We know. that you could present us with every. number, reasoning, rationale in the. entire world for why a decision is the. right decision and the wrong decision. and still not get it through to us and. it still won't matter in the heat of. battle on the moment on the sidelines. So humans we're human the humans are. doing this and these these numbers are. coming from humans and yes you can look. back on a thousand outcomes and say that. but each individual situation is. situational. I mean that is that is an. actual thing that is just kind of the. difference between in theory and reality.

and that's kind of in everything not. just in sports. So we'd like to tell the. stats people like we appreciate what. you're doing but that's theory. Everything you're operating in is theory. because of outcome prediction. This is. reality is what we're telling can have. really good insight on this but each. reality is its own thing. You might have. uh for just my position you know kicking. punting. There was games out there. during seasons in which I made Pro Bowls. in which you didn't see me hit uh many. shanks at all where I thought every time. I was going on the field I was going to.

hit a shank. Imagine if I hit two. shanks, give a short field to the other. team. What's the stats on our team. winning or losing? And I'm just one tiny. piece of the the entire puzzle, let. alone like everybody else having a good. day or bad day at positions that matter, you know, as opposed to what stats are. telling you. So, we're just trying to. say let's leave it. >> The thing is, I know I don't know all. the answers. I know I don't have them. all. All I'm going to do on the. broadcast is try and present to you the. options and we'll all watch it together. and see what happens. >> You have a good energy in that booth. >> Yeah, >> it does feel like you're having a good.

time, which we love. Don't get jaded in. there, JJ. Even if stats people are. trying to take you down. Now, you can be. JJ. >> Nice booth in Indie. Halftime food. Very. good in Indie. >> Very good. They had shrimp with St. Elmo's sauce. Phenomenal. And then, did. not see this coming. Barbecue board. >> M. >> Phenomenal. There was sausage, there was. brisket, there was burnt ends there. I. mean, it was fantastic. Ltheathered in. sauce. Not the best thing to eat while. wearing a suit.

>> before going back on the air, but didn't. stop me, brother. >> So, Indianapolis, uh, Indianapolis. appreciates everybody coming through. here. You know, you talked about visit. indie people leaving stuff. I assume. like the Indianapolis sports corp corp. or whatever also a part of that. like. very much love ball and sports here and. very much set up to host it. You know, hotels very easy and close. All the. restaurants and [ __ ] are all in the same. area. The arena's here, the stadiums. here like we are. And the city loves. ball like that is they're trying their.

best. So, I appreciate hearing that from. you. And no, it wasn't a gift from me. I. want to leave you a bag of flaming poop. at your door. >> Texans again this week. So, you'll be. able to watch it. You'll be able to. watch it on Sunday. I got them at the. Jags this weekend. Going to be a good. one. Very good one. Run defense. Phenomenal. >> Oh no. >> Who? For Jacksonville. >> Jacksonville has not allowed a rusher. over 70 yards this entire season. >> What was the stat you said about the. Colts? >> Yes. Perfect. >> The Colts when Jonathan Taylor rushes. for 90 or more. They're 6 and0. >> Yes.

>> This is like a unstoppable force of. movable object 2.0 because that's what. Houston was this last week. >> You said. >> Jonathan Taylor versus the Jags run. defense. >> Yeah. You said that it doesn't the. injury doesn't make up for all that. You. don't think there being zero fear of. Danny Dimes keeping and running off the. edge does anything to help Jonathan. Taylor front? >> I think it certainly helps. Yes. >> Okay. Thank you. I just want to make. sure I'm not on side here with slants. and inb breakers and everything behind. behind to to help open it up. I mean,

it's and also it's tough when the game. goes a certain way and obviously. Jonathan Taylor's going to RACK UP YARDS. WHEN AND THEN IT'S THE FOURTH QUARTER. AND HE GETS TO ADD. >> SORRY, there's some breaking news in the. college football world that just popped. on my screen here. Uh, Ohio State. committee Chris Henry Jr. has not sent. in his paperwork to Ohio State yet. Oh. jeez. He's weighing options according to. him at both Oregon and USC. This isn't a. money thing. This is clearly a Brian. Hartline thing. He wants to make sure he. makes the right decision. Says, Tom. Lloyd 247. Oh no.

>> Oh [ __ ]. >> Holy [ __ ]. >> Developing story. LET'S GO TO HAMMER DAD. AP Tone. Tone. It was reported that he. uh signed right with Ohio State this. morning and then now he's weighing his. options. He was out there in the West. Coast matter day. USC obviously given. their pitch. Oregon as well. And uh we. know Oregon can keep up with anybody. I. don't know about USC. >> Yeah. I think it's very interesting. because they said not moneywise. And I. kind of believe that cuz H Heartline is. leaving for USF obviously and then.

Oregon just lost their offensive. coordinator to Kentucky. The only one. without changes on the offensive side of. the ball, huge offensive side of the. ball, uh is USC, who currently has the. number one uh ranked recruiting class in. the country, the first time in 18 years. it hasn't been an SEC team. >> Oh [ __ ]. >> Okay, >> good stat. >> Thank you. >> They already got a a uh Ohio State. commit. Guess they flipped flipped one. today and now they want another. >> Uhoh. And he's back gets a ton of. credit. I still don't know if it's.

enough credit. It is just absurd what. that guy did. >> Pipeline and he's great at recruiting. Florida and now he's going to USF. Feels. like that. He no offense USF. Okay. We. had good battles with USF. I respect. USF. I love what USF's about. Feels like. we're one year, two years away from him. having the situation pop up with massive. school somewhere. >> Bam. >> Who knows? Bam. Every year there's going. to be a massive one open it feels like. going forward, which is why like Lane, do you need to go now? And then Lane's.

like, "Yeah, this is the one um to get.". Every year they're seemingly one of. those. That's big news out of college. ball. Chris Henry Jr. is a guy. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. He's caught the. >> he's and Chris Henry so and he's 66 or. something like that. >> Where did you come down on Lane on them. either letting or not letting Lane coach. the games for LSU? >> I never So this is a theory reality. thing again, you know, which we do a lot. of in theory it because we in day-to-day.

sports get dunked on a lot because we. have to deal with theory and reality, right? We're trying to project what the. future is while what's happening right. now. So I think we kind of get exposed. to the you look like a doofus for saying. this this is not real life on a more. regular basis than maybe other people. So I think like Herb Street Sabin I. think a lot of the people that were. saying he should be allowed to coach his. team. He recruited that team. He built. that team. They've had the best year. Like in theory in a movie that's really. good. Like that is a really good thing.

Signing days happening right now. Okay. So this is early signing days taking. place. Transfer portals in the middle of. the playoff run. So LSU, which I assume. LSU would have been good with him. coaching Miss is kind of been the. convers. I don't think LSU wants him to. be focusing on Old Miss either. He wants. him focusing on transfer portal signing. day and LSU as a whole. And Miss, you. got to get recruits in here and. potential transfer portal guys and they. potentially see the building or talk to. the building and it's Lane that's. running the building. He's in the office.

of the head co. It's like a I just don't. think I don't think it would have ever. been a good situation. So, I didn't. think it was ever going to happen. Now, in theory though, good movie story. Guy, six years, turns it around, does this. whole thing, gets offered this dream. job, he needs to stay with his team and. [ __ ] like that. Like, that's the angle. that they're going from. But like, in. reality, I with the way signing day is. and with transfer portal and with the. amount of tension and storyline that's. on all these college football playoff. teams, it's like in reality, I don't.

think it would have ever been good for. anybody. Like, I think it would have. just been would have not been great. So, I didn't think it was ever going to be. able to happen. >> It's in the same conference and it's. like it's it's not like like like I look. at uh summer going from two lane to. Florida like that's two lane is a great. program but that's clearly going from. one level to a different level. That's. just a fact. >> Okay. >> Like Miss to LSU Miss is in the same. conference and currently going to be in. the playoff and the team he's going to. is not. So, like the fact that it's like.

I I completely understand why you like I. I I do not understand how it was even a. possibility of disgust. I just I can't I. don't even I understand everything he. built it and everything, but to leave. and then want to stay to coach it. I. that that was just crazy. >> It never made a lot of sense to me. either. But there was I think there's. people that are pulling for like that. those are his boys. Like they you know. did the training camp together and the. blood, sweat, and tears together. >> Then stay with them. That's it. Like. that that that's the option. Well, but. those boys can go with him. So, that's. kind of a part of the which LSU or Miss.

was saying like, "Okay, so now you guys. are going to go through a playoff run.". And what at the beginning of every game, you could potentially say, "Remember. boys, this is happening in a new place. next year. Let's go." And like just all. of it never really went. >> Have my cake and eat it too. It's great. >> Which I never really understood that. So, so people were getting cake and then. they weren't eating it. They were just. allowed to look at it. So, then they. were at one point somebody was like, "You're actually allowed to eat it, too." And they're like, "Whoa, what an. asshole." I I don't really understand. how that all came about. But.

>> no, you have a plate of cake. You either. eat the cake and it's gone or you have. the cake and don't get to eat it. Those. are the only two options. You can't have. a piece of cake and also eat that piece. of cake. >> Okay? >> Now, if you have multiple pieces of. cake, then you have options. But if you. only have one piece of cake, you can't. have it and eat it too. >> Okay? And you can't have two cakes in. this situation, which is what he was. trying to do. He's trying to eat some. cake down there at LSU. >> He double fisted cake. Double fisted. >> while holding this cake still,

>> which he already nibbled off of. >> Already nibbled off for six years. He'd. been nibbling on this one. Now he's got. a new one over was never going to work. How do you keep everything balanced? You. don't have enough plates or forks. Can't. do it. >> Oh, he's a yogi, so he's pretty good in. balance. >> Well, you're right. Let's talk about. forks and spoons and soup. Let's talk. about the Pittsburgh Steelers. Uh AQ. Shipley has a question for you, Jage. All right, JJ. Pittsburgh Steelers when. I came up, when I grew up, it was the. standard was you can't let a running. back run for over 100 yards.

>> This week, they ran the same play. It. wasn't creative. It was two tight ends. downhill runs over and over and over for. 250 yards. What's going on in. Pittsburgh? >> Yeah, unprecedented. I mean this it it. was I trust me I I landed at home and I. turned on the I checked the score and I. looked at the box score and I was like. holy what happened? >> Yeah. And then you like then I found out. that it was duo just over and over and.

over and over and over and over and over. and it's like no you guys couldn't. figure it out like nobody nobody figured. out like hey maybe we So I mean there's. some gap integrity issues there's some. tackling issues there's all sorts of. different things there. Um, and clearly, I mean, you listen to the comments from. the locker room after the game and. there's they got to figure it out. And. it's I mean, they're sitting there and. it's kind of one of those situations. where them and Baltimore this weekend, they're both tied for first in the.

division. And so, whoever wins this one. is actually going to be sitting in a. pretty good spot, but I'm not sure. either of them actually feels all that. good about where they are right now. And. Pittsburgh just seems like the same. situation year after year after year. For some reason, the offense can't quite. get it going. The defense hasn't been. performing that well. They're either. feast or famine. They get takeaways or. they just get roasted. That's just kind. of what it is. It feels like every. single game they're waiting for one. massive play to split the entire game.

And if that doesn't happen, then they. really, really struggle. >> Ben Rothosberger was on football and he. said, "I'm just kind of spitballing. here. Maybe Tomlin just goes and bees. the head coach of Penn State. Maybe. maybe he gets a new fresh start and I. think his name was floated for USC a. couple years ago and he talks about how. he. >> You think he wants to go do recruiting. >> LSU? It was LSU. Okay. So a couple years. ago it was LSU I guess which was being. described as the best job in college at. that point because that's how Tomlin's. name was even mentioned. It's like do.

you think Mike Tomlin with the amount of. years without a playoff victory with how. the fans have starting to kind of soil. uh turn and everything like that would. he want to take this massive job in. college? Then he got in a press. conference and said, "I have the best. job in football. I'm the head coach of. the Pittsburgh Steelers." And he walked. off and I kind of put it to bed. But now. it's really loud. It seems louder than. ever about this entire situation. More. stats are getting thrown out. And Ben. Rothersburgger was like, "Everybody's. talking about the Steelers fans wanting. a refresh and a reset. It might be good. for Tomlin to get a reset as well." And. then he just threw out the Penn State. job because he's in Pittsburgh around a.

bunch of them. And there were some. people saying, why would he ever say. Tomlin wants to go to Penn State? And it. sucks that that's how people are viewing. Penn State. By the way, Penn State is. just like uh I don't think Penn State. people love that they were being talked. you guys being talked about as if you. were too lame. >> Well, no. Why would anybody want to go. to college over the NFL? If you're an. NFL head coach, there is no. reason why you would rather be a college. football head coach. >> Who do you think potentially could be. good at Penn State that you just thought. of? >> I mean, it just feels as though. everything's going south in Vegas and. that uh Pete Carol is going to get fired.

and he would be perfect at Penn State. Now we got to wait till February to get. the get the head coach, which would be. pretty late in the entire cycle there. >> They're already there. They're already. there. We already missed the day. It's. too late. >> No, there's transfer portal coming. The. big one's a transfer portal that's. coming up. >> Can't hire an 85year-old. You might as. well hire Joe Paul. >> Thank you. >> They would if they could. >> They're going to they're going to end up. getting a guy like Matt Campbell from. Iowa State who is a good coach, but who. people at Penn State will go apeshit and. be like, "This is the guy we waited to. hire." Like I that's that's where it's.

give him an extension. It's Campbell or. Braum or Dball. >> or Matt Naggie. I still think Matt. Naggie is a. >> free agent. >> All right. Um, let's go to back to the. Pittsburgh Steelers. They might have. figured it out though. >> Adam Thelen has signed with the. Pittsburgh Steelers. Congratulations to. the Dam. >> Adam Thielen. That's what they're. calling him on the internet. And uh, you. know, there was a tweet from a few days. back that said uh, Mike Tomlin will say. something like, "We can't eat soup with. forks. We need spoons." and Steelers.

will sign a 2018 Pro Bowler to the. practice squad. Well, we don't know if. the Demon Thelen's on the practice squad. or not, but we didn't hear the spoon and. fork with the soup line could be on the. way. It's a great metaphor, actually. And also, Tomman would say something. exactly like that, but we know this guy. was a monster in 2018. Yeah, I mean, an. absolute demon in 2019. There's a chance. Adam Thailand gets a resurgence out. there with Aaron Rogers, one of his. really close friends. Obviously, they're. golfing friends. And uh the Pittsburgh. Steelers are making yet another play as.

the Minnesota Vikings say, "Yeah, Adam, you can go finish your your career. somewhere else if you want to." Now, let's pivot away from them. Let's talk. about a couple teams that are real. Go. ahead, Debb. >> Yeah, talk about teams with fresh. starts, new head coaches. Vable first. year in New England, Ben Johnson, first. year in Chicago. Both the young. quarterbacks going to week 14 now, Pat. obviously on a by-week, but going to. week 14, both of these guys on top of. their respective conferences. How do you. feel about the team right now? and kind. of I guess what's your trust level and. confidence level in these both teams. making a real run in the playoffs?

>> I think it speaks to what a great head. coach can do for a team with the. requisite. roster to start with. You obviously have. to have a certain talent level to be. able to start with, but these two. coaches have come in and done a. phenomenal job with their new teams. I. mean, I've talked about Ben Johnson. multiple times, but just the things that. he does and how blunt and honest he is. about correcting issues that are wrong. This week, he talked about the passing. game. If you go back to their by-eek, he.

talked about fixing their running game. And ever since that bye-week, their. running game has been on fire. Uh, it's. been unbelievable. So, now he's talked. about fixing their passing game. And you. would imagine when he says something, he's going to get it fixed because. that's what we've seen before. Just his. players respect it. And not only is he. fixing things, he's doing it while. winning. Like they are in first place in. the NFC. That's the Chicago Bears who. last year had a complete collapse and. fell apart. He came in and has done this. and he hasn't even had that full second.

off season to do everything he wants to. do. So I think the sky's is the limit. there when he continues to get Caleb to. develop. And then Vrabel up in New. England has obviously done an. unbelievable job. I think everybody. knows he's a great football coach. Um I. I would imagine that there's some people. in Tennessee wishing that they hadn't. let him out of that building. Um because. of what he is able to do. It's just. they're they're good. Obvious everybody. points to their schedule. You can only. play who you can play who like that's. you just play and win and go out there. and do what you do. Um he's he's a great.

coach and he's disciplined and he. teaches these guys how to play hard. He. talks I loved his answer about that hit. when Jackson Dart was going out of. bounds and Ellis laid the hit on him and. he was like I I we show our guys every. single week. We show Drake May the plays. of other quarterbacks getting hit and we. tell them if you stay in bounds you're. going to get hit. That's football and I. love that and I think that the players. love playing for a coach that says stuff. like that and publicly goes out there. and defends them. Phenomenal. Hey, real.

quick on the run game because we talked. about if you put those clips up real. Foxy with the Chicago Bears run game. How does that impact the Caleb Williams. like the fake play action, him rolling. out, holding that fake, how does that. impact the D line? >> Yeah, you see 50 Phillips right there on. the edge. He has to stay out there that. extra second because you know what Ca. Caleb is capable of. You see him take. that tiny little jab step up the field. like a just in case. Did he keep it? Um. because Caleb can do anything and that's. what Ben Johnson has done best with the. Bears in my personal opinion. He knows.

that their passing game isn't where it. needs to be right now. So he has schemed. up that entire offense to minimize the. negative impact the passing game can. have. >> And if you look at what Detroit's run. game is whenever they have bad days and. you watch what Ben Johnson does in. Chicago, it's like tell you what, man. Maybe that guy did do it all. All right, we appreciate the hell out of you. That. was great. >> THAT'S JJ WATT. WE'LL see you on the. other side. Goodbye.

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hour two of the program begins now. >> Football is magical. The toxic tables. here at Boston Connor and at Tai. Schmidt. 9-year NFL vet Darius J. Butler. is here and 12year NFL veteran and Super. Bowl champion coach Penn State Ctus. Maybe he's the guy that should be. leading the Nitney lines. AQ ship. >> AQ. We're going in the trenches later. Uh what should we think about as we uh. kind of look ahead to your segment. spotlighting the big boys on the.

offensive line? >> It's the most inconsistent group all. year long. There's not one dominant. group until recently. The Chicago Bears. have taken the most cons consistent. position. >> Okay. So, the Chicago Bears with Ben. Johnson have just become the most. dominating offensive line in all ball. I. think it's a part that and I think it's. also a part the scheme. The scheme. really does a great job. But the. offensive line, they revamped the group. Got all new guys this offseason and. drafted well with Darnell Wright. They've been fantastic. >> Good for the Chicago Bears. Seems like.

they got going on. And I saw some Hembo. stats while we were talking about the. Chicago Bears and Ben Johnson. Uh Caleb. Williams passing wos. And it is I didn't. know this was the case. Did you know. this with the Chicago Bears? Yeah. Caleb. Williams accuracy wos rank among 33. qualifiers 22.1% offt target 58.1%. completion percentage and negative 8.5%. CPO which we. >> is big completion percentage over all. right. >> who's first. >> well. we know. >> oh yeah.

>> who's that. >> Drake May baby. >> in the CPOE. >> and all of them. >> okay you knew the CPOE though you. >> no I mean I just figure that's some fake. stat I mean which it is uh but once Once. again, this is what I meant by the stat. paper when we were talking to JJ. I get. that they're necessary and I like them. I hate them. It's just it's just too. much. Okay. They just do too much. >> I know it's necessary and I like them, >> but. I hate them. You just said you like. them, but you hate them. It's a It's a.

like hate relationship. >> Yeah. Well, you love to hate them and. you hate to love them. You know, it's it. stinks, but it it they're necessary, I. suppose. And Oh, yeah. Look at that. He's a leader in all of them. >> I don't see the CPOE in there. Feels. like there was another stat maybe. created to showcase that Caleb can't. complete a pass is kind of what that. that Hembo stat was appearing to be. But. that means Chicago Bears are only going. to get better. So good for them. Speaking of getting better, ball is only. getting better. More winning meaningful. games. Conference championship games are. this weekend. We'll be down in Atlanta. with college game day for the SEC title.

Alabama will be battling a very hot, maybe best team in ball, Georgia. Alabama beat Georgia in between the. hedges a couple uh months back, I guess, stopping Georgia's longest home winning. streak at 33. Since then, Georgia has. really become quite a wagon. Alabama as. well. Alabama's won a lot of big games. Their worst performances have come over. the last couple weeks. They might be. worn out because of their tough. schedule. And Georgia is looking to make. another run, not only obviously at an. SEC championship, but a national. championship. Uh let's go to hammer don.

Georgia Bama happening down there in. Atlanta. And then one verse two. happening here in Indianapolis in the. Big 10 Championship game. There was a. chance, actually there probably was. never a chance that college game day. would be here in Indianapolis for one. verse two, but I do know it was at least. uh thought about and talked about. amongst people that I was in a. conversation with. It doesn't end up. happening because I think we all. expected to be heading to Atlanta. And.

once again, it's really cool down there. be a part of the SEC Championship, be at. Convention Center. Alabama and Georgia, obviously two titans of college ball. take each other on. Indiana looking to. do something it's never done before. Uh. Indiana in such close proximity to. Indianapolis with so many hooers uh in. Indianapolis. It's going to be a scene. downtown Indianapolis. And then the Ohio. State Buckeye faithful just 3 hours away. whenever you talk about hopping on 70. and traveling directly to Indianapolis.

So, this is going to be insanity here in. Indianapolis. What should we expect from. the game? Obviously, Julian Seain is a. Heisman favorite, as is Mendoza. We. assume they'll get their touches in. Defensively, Ohio State supposed to be. historic. Indiana better than they were. last year. Much on the defensive side, much better than they were on the. defensive side. Over under 47 a half. What is the expectation and thought for. this one on Saturday night? >> Yeah, I think this is going to be a. large large hooer contingent. Obviously. it being in their state, in their town.

Um, obviously Ohio State coming off a. national championship. They go to the. Big 10 Championship literally every. single year. I think it is going to be a. heavy heavy hooser crowd on Saturday. because it's the first time they've been. in the Big 10 Championship. I don't. know, I think ever. Um, but there's only. two teams in the country who are ranked. top five in both scoring, offense, and. defense. That being the Indiana Hooers. and Texas Tech Red Raiders. Obviously, Ohio State is number one um on defense. and then really good on offense. is just. not in the top five. Obviously, Carnell. Tate, Jeremiah Smith come back last.

week. Julians Sain is is a Heisman. favorite. Both defenses are incredible. Uh both offenses are incredible. They. are the two most complete teams a lot of. people think in all of college football. That's why they are number one and. number two. It's going to be a very very. remember Indiana went to Ohio State last. year and was kind of overwhelmed by the. crowd. There was a muffed uh punt snap. punt situation happened, a punt return. that happened and things kind of got out. of out of uh hand and Indiana was never. tested before that game last year. Like.

they've been they've had some good. tests. They went to Oregon to Iowa. played some close games obviously at. Penn State played a close game. So. they've been tested. They've won all of. them. I think it's be a really good. game. >> I think so, too. I I think it's going to. be worth the price of admission, which. we did pay and it is a lot. And. hopefully there won't just be a jib. sitting in front of our suite again. >> There definitely will be and uh that. entire thing just becomes a character of. the story because they are choosing to. charge us the amount of money that. they're charging us to put us in that. seat and then they are choosing to put a.

15t tall jib directly in front of our uh. seats. So they're doing that on purpose. It's malpractice. But to be clear, it is. kind of cool to not see a portion of the. game. It is. >> and not really know what's happening in. those things. Even if you try to get to. the jumbotron, we'll just wait. The top. is actually blocking the whole. jumbotron. So, it's actually a fun. little game. >> Keeps you on the edge of your seat. >> Yeah. And it trying to dance around the. It's coming at your head actually cuz. it's trying to get a shot over top. So, it it was. >> You know what I felt like? I felt like I.

was. >> felt like I was a boxer. >> Sweet science. >> It was a sweet science, wasn't it? >> You know, sweet science has a lot of. good things. The cardiovascular. conditioning is just second to none. Toughness, quickness, you know, being. able to defend yourself. But the. business seems to be out of sorts, doesn't it, >> for a while. >> in that business? Feels like it's out of. sorts all the time. Feels like it's. chaos. Feels like if there was something. that was uh, you know, a little bit more. structured, a little bit better managed, maybe something that was about the.

development and hopefully about the. heightened uh, spotlight on the sport. That'd be a great thing. Well, >> fat chance. >> No, it's happening. >> What? What? >> From my understanding, it's happening. now. I do not have a contract with any. company currently that is about to be. represented in this conversation. So. before people start saying that this is. a biased conversation because I'm. getting paid by these people. I've. certainly been paid by this company in. the past because they do business with. business that we do business with. And I.

don't want people to think that I'm. contractually obligated to have this. conversation because there is a. congressional hearing I think about what. we're about to talk about tomorrow. What. I will say though is the people or the. person I'm about to speak about and. speak to are people that I have immense. respect for that are incredible. businessmen and everything I've ever. seen them touch has had success. So if. they're looking to get into a sport that. we all love that could potentially. thrive in the future better, we are. certainly going to be in support of. that. Ladies and gentlemen, joining us. right now representing the Zufa Boxing. Promotion founded by TKO, the current.

president of the WWE. Ladies and. gentlemen, Nick Khan. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> How you doing, buddy? >> Dad, gentlemen, thank you for having me. back. >> Did you see me do the suit thing there? I'm not getting paid by this guy, but I. do know this guy. So, I don't want. people to think that I'm out here. lobbying for a guy. But if I was to. lobby for a guy, it would be this guy in. whatever he was doing. So, thank you for. joining us. But this does feel like a. pretty pivotal moment for a sport that I. know you've loved since you were a. child. Can we dive into this a little. bit? You born raised Las Vegas. Las.

Vegas didn't have any professional. sports teams because obviously they were. worried about the gambling aspect and. all that type of [ __ ] but boxing was. obviously hubbed in Vegas. You lifelong. boxing fan, is that accurate? And then. whenever you learn of TKO getting into. the boxing business, how excited are you. to kind of showcase that knowledge and. also maybe change the sport that you. love for the good in the future? Thanks for the question and first and. foremost, congratulations on the post. that Sam uh put up the other day uh to.

you her McKenzie. Love everything going. on in your life, especially your. personal life. So, congratulations on. that. >> Thank you so much, Nick. Yeah, baby boy. on the way hopefully happy, healthy, everything like that. I'm scared to. death on how big of a pain in the ass. this thing's going to be, but I am. honored and pumped to obviously meet the. baby boy. But let's get back to the. conversation about you changing boxing. because you know WWE obviously you've. been a wrestling fan. You understand. wrestling. I think you were a uh.

ticketing person at uh or Wrestlemania. way back in the day like you've been a. fan. You've been able to implement. you've been able to be a part of it. You've been able to utilize your massive. business brain to help that particular. business. TKO obviously doing it with. Dana White UFC him being able to do. that. Now you're getting into boxing and. kind of relaunching boxing as a whole. Do you feel like a personal thing with. this because of your lifelong fanhood? And I don't want to share too much. personal stuff, but I get gifts from. Nick Con every once in a while. They're. usually boxing references, either a. boxing book or a boxing photo or a.

boxing quote. I think you have posters. all over your [ __ ] that are boxing. people. It feels like boxing is really. the home of your heart. How does it feel. getting involved with it? And what is. kind of where you're at in the whole. process right now? >> So, I'm going to answer your question. right now. I don't see the most recent. gift on your studio set anywhere. The. one that you received pre-T. Thanksgiving. >> No, we got one right here, brother. >> Oh, there we limited collection edition. black box set compared to the blue box.

set. So, >> of course, the right stuff. >> Hulk Hogan one in the black box. >> Yeah, the black box. >> This thing will stay up here until the. end of the world. >> Yeah, we know that, brother. says the. man who dressed like Hulk Hogan at the. last Wrestlemania, which we greatly. appreciate. So, in ter. in terms of boxing, uh, number one, keep. in mind I did grow up primarily in Las. Vegas. As you said, there were no. professional sports at that time. Dana. White also grew up primarily in Las.

Vegas. So, as a kid who didn't have or. as kids who didn't have a lot of money. in a pre-cable world, in a three network. world, so before Fox even existed, there. was boxing on NBC, ABC, and CBS almost. every weekend. So, the local paper would. cover it. The local news would cover it. I used to be a a paper delivery kid. also, which enabled you to get free. newspapers in the morning and afternoon. So grew up a huge fan of the sport and.

progressively over the last 40 years or. so saw the sport start to die in the. United States in particular where if you. look around now outside of our. announcement, Zufa's announcement with. Paramount Plus, uh alongside UFC's big. announcement with Paramount Plus, boxing. does not exist on any major media. conglomerate outlet again outside of. Paramount. It's time to put some effort. in. We think there's a chance to bring. it back to where it should be and we'll. see if we can get that done.

>> Okay. So, let's talk about the chance. and what you need to happen basically in. your guys's eyes for this to really take. place. I think what you're looking to do. is put together obviously your own. promotion, develop boxers, develop. fighters, and also have your own ranking. system and kind of run your own boxing. world. Allah what UFC is doing in mixed. martial arts and WWE does with. professional wrestling. But obviously, we're talking about very different. things here with when it comes to boxing. and all that. But that is basically the. goal, right? From my understanding what. TKO is trying to do, which is why you. guys are kind of the ones that are going.

to be heading this. This is also. something that you both understand very. mightily. And then that leads to what's. coming tomorrow. And I just really. learned about this and read up about. this. I guess the the Muhammad Ali. American Boxing Act is in act right now. And I guess there's a lot of holes, a. lot of flaws, a lot of different things. that people take advantage of. There's a. story this morning where Terence. Crawford was stripped of his titles. because he didn't pay a fee back to the. World Boxing Confederation or whatever. it is for $300,000. So, they stripped.

his title because he didn't pay them. that amount of cash afterwards. And so, he's not the champion because he didn't. pay them. They stripped him whatever the. case. seems like really odd timing that. this news gets released right now when. tomorrow I believe there is a. conversation happening in Congress about. a little bit of an evolution of this or. a revival of this particular act and I. know Zufa is a massive piece of this but. you're not the only ones there's a lot. of boxers that are backing this there's. a lot of people in the boxing business. that are backing it there are retractors. obviously can you tell me about what you.

guys are trying to do and why people. would not want you to do it that are in. the boxing world. >> of course so first of all on the Terren. Crawford side. You you watched that. fight on Netflix on September 13th. Terrence Crawford, amazing effort. against Canelo, who also had an amazing. effort. Terren Crawford unanimously won. that championship. So, how in fact is it. 2 and 1/2 months later that he's no. longer the champion of the World Boxing. Confederation because he didn't pay a.

fee? That would be akin to the Los. Angeles Dodgers, whether you're a Dodger. fan or not, having won a grueling. sevengame World Series in one of the. greatest game sevens of all time. It. would be like if Major League Baseball. came to them and said, "Well, you didn't. pay us a fee, so you're no longer the. World Series champion." It It's only in. this sport of boxing where you see. nonsense like this. So, with the. Muhammad Ali Enhancement Act, what we're. looking to do, everything that the act. already has will stay the same. If.

you're a fighter and you want to do it. the old way with the World Boxing. Confederation, and by the way, the. gentleman who runs that organization, this is supposed to be a nonprofit. organization going into Canelo Crawford. said he couldn't stay in a regular hotel. room. He needed a suite. He wanted to. make sure that his tickets were front. row. He wanted to make sure there were. ample number of tickets. It all seems. quite odd to me that a sport would be. run that way or quite odd to us. So in. the enhancement act all of that if. you're a fighter and you want to.

continue with it nothing changes. This. is presenting an ore a different option. where if you want to come into a unified. boxing organization like Zufa or anyone. else who wants to create a unified. boxing organization come here fight with. us we'll have our own ranking system. The champion will fight the number one. contender just like in the UFC. And if. the number one contender is not. available, then the champion fights the. number two contender. So rather than 17. weight classes and 15 different.

championships and people getting. stripped for no reason, let's do it in a. credible way. >> Okay. So I love the thought of that. Common sense seems like it should be. able to happen cuz right now there's. what? The WBO, the WBA, the WBC, the. IBF, and the ring all have their own. rankings and then they kind of are the. ones who decide who gets titles, who. doesn't get titles. They kind of run it. all. what you guys are saying is yes, we. would just like to add a new ranking. system as well. Like what what would be. the detractors of this? Why would people. not want this to go through if you're. just adding to something as opposed to.

maybe eliminating things? >> So number one, the ring magazine uh is. does it right. So it's the ring model is. based on the model we're basing our. model in part on the ring's model, which. again, the champion fights the number. one contender, the lineal champion, if. you will. To be the man, you got to beat. the man. Not to make this about Ric. Flair, but that's exactly what you have. to do for the Ring Championship belt. It. would be the same thing in Zufa. So, detractors, anyone, and you know this,

you've seen it with your own show on. ESPN. When someone comes in to disrupt, the people who aren't by nature. disruptors don't like it. So, what do. they do? They say, "Hey, he doesn't do. it this way, or why is Pat McAfee not. doing it that way?" Whatever the things. that have annoyed you over the course of. time, many of which we've had private. conversations of, sometimes it's. multiple things in one day, that's all. normal. So, you've disrupted. And by the. way, your viewership numbers and your. ratings are reflective of the great.

disruption that you've caused. Significant. >> Hey, that means a lot coming from you. You know that the boys, you know that we. we really. >> feel you. >> Yeah, Nick, you are held in high regard. around here cuz you are an absolute dog. So, we appreciate you saying that. But. yes, uh, we understand that anytime you. rattle or shake some [ __ ] up a little. bit that has been the same way for a. long time, people that are bums and. don't have brains and don't know how to. kind of evolve or get better are going. to be upset that their cash cow is. potentially getting ruined. Is that what. you were saying? Because that's what I. kind of experienced. >> That That's exactly right. So, what.

you've said and what we've said to each. other about your collective show, you. and the boys, it's the same thing with. Zufa Boxing. But I also say what I've. said to you in private. What are they. supposed to say the establishment? Oh, Dana White's coming into boxing. Let's. just go out of business. Let's just give. up. Or, hey, Pat McAfei is coming in. here to disrupt. Well, let's just go. away because our model is not as good as. his model. Of course, they're not going. to say that. They're going to say any. negative thing they can. That's. expected. We don't care. If we care.

about you, as I care about you and your. team, then by nature, I care what you. think. If we don't know who you are and. you're simply upset that we're coming. in, we don't care about this. Go on and. live your life and we'll do our thing. >> Okay. I I love you and uh I love what. Zufa is seemingly about from everything. you're saying. Just makes perfect common. sense. I'm not from boxing world though. I couldn't even imagine the voices that. are going to come out and say, "Well, it. kind of ruined my life, though." You. know, like. >> I I did see you doing some boxing moves.

in your warm-up there. You you look like. you've actually, you know, by the way, you're very lean right now. Would. probably put you in, you know, 147. pounds, something like this. Very lean. >> Yeah, I I don't know. Uh I don't think. the real ones for me. I'm I'm I'm Oculus. boxer, but I. >> I got it. But all I know is when Sam was. pregnant with McKenzie, you weren't. lifting up the shirt like that. >> Yeah, you're right. >> You told me, you said, "Hey, you know, it's tricky. You know, sometimes maybe a. little extra this, extra that." Now you.

got it fully in shape. >> Yeah, we're locked in. We got a morning. routine. We're working out. I went and. saw those drill instructors, you know, for that uh for that movie. I went and. watched these drill instructors operate. And then now we're around a former drill. instructor on like a weekly basis. And. boy, you really changed the standard in. which you kind of view yourself uh with. how they operate. Like in the morning, as you I'm a shaver now. I shave my face. now, which was never a thing. Maybe. because I have a jawline currently and. that could go away at any time. I'm. Irish. That thing can go right there uh. very quickly. But it's like watching.

these drill instructors, they like look. at other people's fa like 5:00 a.m. 5:15. a.m. see if it's it's like, "Oh, you. lost this morning because you didn't. shave." Like you you immediately woke up. and you lost. Like cuz there's always. that kind of looking at you like do you. want to wake up, shave, and go out or do. you want to snooze for another 10 10. minutes or whatever. So it's like the. way. >> there's there's there's also another. thing about not shaving and and you can. see I don't fully shave with a razor. I. I have some stubble here and and some of. the gentlemen on your show may not fully. shape. Those of us who aren't as.

naturally handsome as you, we got to. cover it up a little bit. >> No, no, that's where I was. Hey, everybody needs to relax, okay? I. WAS A BEARDED MAN, OKAY? Believe me, I've been hiding a lot for a LONG TIME. >> YOU CHANGED, BRO. >> I DID NOT CHANGE. I DID NOT CHANGE. I'M. STILL A BEARDED MAN UNDER THERE. What. I'm saying is uh watching these DIs. operate, it's like I've I've forced. myself to almost be like, well, I'm. piece of [ __ ] compared to these. So, it's like I've tried my best to uh. become better for, you know, myself, but.

also for like do like I would like to. live, you know, I would like to live for. the good of Mackenzie and obviously Baby. Boy that's coming. So, I've tried my. best, man. I'm trying to stay in trying. to do it right now. >> And for your eventual return to WWE, I. know you're I'm focused on college. football. I'm building out my empire. This and that. When are you I've already. gotten six text messages since we got on. this. Yeah. Five minutes ago. When's. McAfee coming back to WWE? >> Look at you. Six text messages. You. probably got one maybe. And now you're. working at W. That's good. Kay Fay, baby. That's good. Kay Fay, baby.

>> Were you? >> Many, many, many. This is just since we. got on. >> Yeah. Yeah. But those are all world. leaders. That's Nick on football, baby. Uh, don't you worry. I am in shape. And. obviously huge Survivor Series. Congrats. You guys 48,000 people. I. heard 48,000 people at PCO for that. thing. That's awesome. Unbelievable. >> 48,000 people. And by the way, some of. the things we do at WWE and what Dana. and Lauren Epstein and the team do at. UFC, we actually schedule events so they. make sense for a city. Boxing doesn't do. this. By the way, you'll see boxing.

consistently up against college football. against NBA Finals games. This past. Saturday, yes, big rivalry, college. football Saturday. But keep in mind, we. go in the evening. Michigan Ohio State. was a long-distant memory by the time we. started. We did it from the San Diego. baseball stadium, Petco Park. They were. amazing hosts. Why do we do it there? There's currently no NFL team there. So, if the San Diego fans have been at home. watching stadium events, wishing they. had an NFL team still and saying, "Hey, I'd like to go to a big stadium event.".

Well, guess what? WWE had one for you. 46,000 plus people in attendance and we. think great matches across the board. >> Said a couple names. one name I I think. I knew but I didn't know the person. there kind of snuck it in there but uh. >> oh Larry. >> no relation. >> no yeah I understand what you're saying. I think I know that now I don't know. that name. >> so Lawrence Epstein you've met before um. he's a senior senior executive at the. UFC listen sometimes now because you you.

become so famous Pat you meet people and. then two days later you might say I've. never met this person that. >> definitely. WHAT DID HE SAY? HI, I'M LARRY. I DON'T. THINK I HEARD FOOL. >> I hope so. >> I I don't think I heard. So, we just. need to clear the air here on who the. hell Larry is. Who is Larry? >> First of Lawrence Epstein, by the way. He's on the board of trustees at. Vanderbilt. Very strong football season. for Vanderbilt, as you know. So, with. Lawrence, who's an excellent executive. and has impeccable credentials. Now, not.

only are we talking to him about UFC and. boxing, but we talk about Vanderbilt. football, and you saw the obviously. rankings last night, you know, strong. season for the Big 10, strong season for. the SEC. We'll see what happens. Either. way, Lawrence will be in front of one of. the subcommittees in Congress tomorrow, presenting the proposed addition to the. Muhammad Ali Enhancement Act. Everything. that we just talked through, and anyone. there can ask him any questions that we. have. This is a bipartisan bill.

introduced by a Republican congressman. and a Democratic congresswoman. As you. know, that's very rare in today's. political environment. And we think we. have uh really strong support and we're. going to get more support. People want. to see the sport fixed. >> Yeah, I think so. And it sounds like you. have the people to get it right. We need. to say though, old buddy, no relation, right, Larry? No relation. >> No. No. Different. >> Thank you. Yeah, cuz Congress, you know, we're doing the whole thing. >> Have another one. I mean, that's a bad. time. That's a bad time to have that. name, but I He's good time to have a.

good brain, it sounds like, cuz he's. obviously Bandandy at UFC and everything. like that. Uh, okay. So, tomorrow, let's. hope everything goes well. Bipartisan is. a big deal in the world that we're in. right now. It doesn't feel like that. happens for anything. I'm happy that it. seems like our government is coming. together to hopefully make a sport that. we all can fall in love with be lovable. yet again and understandable. Now, to. that note, Debbut has a question about. the operations. >> Yeah, I know uh AJ will have a ton of. follow-up questions, but I'm going move. back to boxing. uh real quick. So you. said uh or you said uh being a disruptor.

in the space and the first thing came to. my mind is live because I'm kind of a. casual boxing fan and got into golf a. few years ago and and and once they. split a lot of the golfers are kind of. shunned the world rankings got. misconstrued. So how would this impact I. guess boxers ranking overall in all the. different you know WBC and all the. different uh ranking systems? >> Yes. So look, Liv came out and by the. way, our partner in the Zufa venture is. Turkey Al-Shake, who you guys know. God.

bless him. >> God bless. >> Um, different than the the group that. was backing different group than the. group that backed Live G. So what we're. going to do here, we're certainly if. Terrence Crawford's a super middleweight. champion of the world, you're never. going to hear us say, "Well, he's not. the super middleweight champion of the. world." So all of that will be. acknowledged. We're just simply going to. focus on what we're doing, which is. let's have the best fight the best. So. rather than matchups, there's an. upcoming fight where there's 11 to1. favorite in the main event, not our.

fight, of course. We're not going to do. anything like that. Let's do it the way. the UFC does it where you go in and it's. either 50/50 or 6040 and let's have. competitive fights. And by the way, if. you lose, no problem. We'll bring you. back if you made a game effort. And if. you showed for the fans, you'll come. back. You'll fight again. And why only. fight twice a year? When when did this. start? Sugar Ray Leonard coming out of. the 1976 Olympics, gold medalist. The. next year he fought nine times and three.

years later against a gentleman named. Wilfredo Bonitez had a massive fight. It. only took three years because the. frequency of his fights and obviously he. knew everything to do in the ring and. had charisma and all of those things. That's the better model than just show. up twice a year and then go away. We'll. continue with our storytelling year. round. We want to build characters and. certainly we'll build those characters. based on their actual personalities. >> Now, finding these types of guys and. girls to be able to build these stories. is obviously not easy. So, I think it's. going to be a lot on you guys to.

potentially develop. Go ahead, Ty. >> Yeah, Nick, do you think this new model. and the new, you know, revival of this. act? Like, will that help create stars. easier? cuz I think casual boxing fans. that would be their argument is like hey. you know you're I I'll always watch like. a Canelo fighter whoever the biggest. fighter is but then a lot of times that. guy is fighting someone who clearly is. not game does not belong in the same. ring so we don't really ever get the. opportunity to see stars built there's. just three or four guys at the top and. they're kind of just fighting everyone. else like do you think it's possible.

with this that we'll get people that we. can see rise up the rankings and it's. like oh this guy is a he's a verifiable. star and he's risen up the rankings and. we've followed that rise. >> That that's the absolute goal here. So, one of the many problems in boxing is. what you just articulated. So, if. there's three or four boxers that the. general public knows, and that might be. stretching it. If there's three or four. boxers, why not try to make that 20 to. 30 to 40 to 50? So, it's not that only. three to four boxers are skilled. It's.

only three to four were showcased. properly the right way. And of course. they have to have the skill in ring to. do it. But for us we think we have a. promotional machine. That's what we are. at our core. You have UFC and Dana. promotional muscle. In my opinion the. greatest fight promoter in the history. of the fight game. Dana. You have the. WWE'se's promotional muscle which you. guys have lived through it. We know how. strong that can be promoted. What you. can't do is just put together a fight,

do a couple of boxing interviews and. say, "Hey, please watch my fight on a. network that people have not heard of. You got to have some promotional muscle. behind it." We think we'll provide that. and we think we can develop more stars. with that. >> Stars move the needle. You know that. Everybody knows that stars move the. needle, but you got to be able to have. supplementary, you know, as you're kind. of freeze up there as you're talking. about changing the entire sport there. Welcome back. I uh I'll be pumped to. watch you guys do all this because you. would think with how busy you both are. running these multi-billion dollar.

companies and having to deal with all. the things that you have to deal with. trying to expand globally. Both of you. Dana and you do business in every city. in the world basically a lot of time for. you both to have to pick up now have to. get to I guess is how you guys would. describe it because how much you love a. whole new promotion. How does that. change your life? How does that change. Dana's life? like how are you guys? >> Well, here's what I would tell you for. the people who are busy in this world. Let's take you for example. I've never. heard you complain about I got to go.

shoot this movie now. I got to get into. shape. Oh, now I have to go to uh game. day. Oh, now I have to go like the the. reality is if you want it and you. clearly did, you Pat and your team did, you go and get it and you don't complain. along the way. So, we are willing. participants in this. We think we the. one thing that we can do at TKO that we. don't believe anyone else in these. spaces can do, we can outwork you. So, there's no issues in terms of that.

stuff. And it all starts with that here. And if we're willing to answer, I don't. know that there's ever been a time, and. you correct me if I'm wrong, that you've. called me and I haven't either answered. or texted, "Hey, give me an hour. I'm on. a flight or this or that. I'll get you. right back." Right? The same applies. across the board. And you do business. and you live your life the same way. >> No, I do not. You know that I I am. a-okay not answer I'll answer you. Yes. Yes. I I will answer you and your entire. TKO group as you freeze up there. Uh all. act the same way that you're talking.

about the business minds that are at. this TKO group TKO group are. >> second to none. >> Outrageous. It is absolutely outrageous. And uh congrats to them coming together. and being able to work together, you. know, cuz obviously Ari and Mark. Shapiro. >> Yep. >> Okay. >> Ari Emanuel, Mark Shapiro, you know, incredible prowess not only in dealm but. in business across the board. If you. look at the good fortune that we've had. in the TKO stock, >> you know, if you look at that good.

fortune, it's up and to the right, not. jinxing anything. You got Dana White, you got a whole plethora of people at. the UFC who work with him. You got. Triple H, you got all of our executives. at WWE, and you have a really strong. executive group at ZUFA. You'll never. hear us complain about, "Oh, we're. tired. Oh, we have to work so much." I. watched a reality show on Netflix about. some other boxing promoter. And all I. heard in the show was, "Oh my god, I'm. exhausted. I need to go play golf now.". And it's it's a great hobby for people. who do it. But please don't tell me.

you're exhausted if you're going out to. play four or five hours of golf. Tell me. you're exhausted. By the way, tell your. mama if you're tired. Don't tell me. >> That's a dog. You just heard a dog talk. And uh that is why we respect the hell. out of you, man. And uh we assume this. is going to go great. We cannot wait to. get to your fights. We cannot wait to. experience what you guys build over. there with Zufa. And congrats on it all. And tell Larry, good luck tomorrow. That's a crazy last name to have. That's. crazy.

>> I'll I understand. I'll tell Lawrence. who's good people who accept my. representation you like when you see him. you'll be like oh yeah I do like this. guy and as you know the Pat McAfee I. like somebody that's not the easiest you. know hurdle to get over so he's one of. uh your guys he's one of our guys and. he's going to do great. >> Nick you're the great he literally hears. everything about everything so whenever. I'm in war with somebody which happens a. lot of them dress like how he dresses. you know because of what we talked about. here at the beginning so I'll say.

something to somebody that they have. never heard before. I assume, right, Nick? I I assume some of these people. have never heard anything that I am. telling them. I would assume. >> Listen, I I all I know, I'm not going to. mention any names. Certain there were. certain executive changes that happened. at ESPN. Other executives reached out to. you sort of trying to, you know, form. some sort of bond, but executives who. had already by you not done right. And I. think your response to one of them when. they said, "Hey, I'd like to uh sit down. together this and that." Your response.

was, "You're next." Like the Goldberg. sort of you're. >> I know people would need more context to. fully appreciate that, but I know you. know what I'm talking about and the boys. know what I'm talking about. So, yes, Lawrence Epstein, friend of yours, friend of all. He's going to do great tomorrow. >> Okay. Good luck to him. Good luck to. you. And, uh, shout out to you guys. celebrating Cena, man. That should be a. massive ordeal next Saturday. You're. talking about GOAT but and basically all. aspects of it and his career post WWE.

because of how damn good of an actor he. is is about to be gigantic as well. So. you're talking about legend out there. I. think you guys have uh truly celebrated. him. Next Saturday should be insane, right? I think that's what we're all. kind of assuming. >> That's right. Next Saturday, December. 13th, that's Heisman Day. You got Army. Navy during the day. You have no college. football at night. You have no NFL. They. have not moved to Saturdays yet as of. December 13th. And you have John Cena's. final match uh exclusively on Peacock uh. in the United States. Uh and it's going.

to be a great show. By the way, you talk. about people who never who work their. behinds off, who never say that they're. tired. Cena, you know him. You never. hear him say, "I'm so tired. I can't. believe this. I have to do this or. that." He just does it. And when you. talk about the goat, that's goat. mentality. He deserves everything that. he's earned in his life. And it's our. honor to uh help see him out. I It's. either Gunther or LA Night. If I was. him, I'd be trying not to be in a. Gunther. >> Just What were the Gunther chops like,

>> brother? My first one first one I took. Okay, cuz you can't I was running around. slapping myself in the chest just. seeing, you know, I was in the leadup to. it, I was just seeing what I could do, you know, kind of like Matthew McCloney, but as hard as I possibly could in the. shower, little bit of wet. I'm like, let. me see. I'm smacking the [ __ ] out of. myself here, trying to see what it's. going to be like. What I realize I would. never be able to hit myself as hard as. he's about to hit me. And uh that first. time I go up over the ropes, I stumble a. little bit because I see him. He's. almost ready. Then I go to get him and. I'm exposed completely like this. That's.

a big mistake. I I had not felt one of. those. My entire body's like this. Yeah. I felt like I was going to die. Felt as. soon as that thing hit me, it felt like. I was The sound popped an eardrum. Okay. Off my own chest and then my sternum. just kind of deflated my lungs. So it. was a cool time. It was a lot of fun. Everybody Everybody enjoyed it. St. Louis out there. It was a lot a lot of. fun. >> Listen, we're we're going to bring you. back. I know you and I are going to sit. together once college football slows a. little bit. But by the way, how weird is. it in the shower? Why does it hurt less. the self chop in the shower than it does.

out of the shower? Is there a film of. water? >> I don't know. Yeah, I don't know. >> I don't know what that is. >> It sound like a shotgun when he hit me. though that first time. >> Yeah, it was violent. >> It literally And I remember I had that. bruise here cuz his elbow. >> Yeah. Yeah. His elbow hit me here on one. of them while he was out here and I had. a bruise for like a week and a half. >> That was a contusion, not a bruise. >> VICIOUS. >> OH JEEZ. I'M DYING. I'M OH, I ATE A BOAT. TO THE STOMACH. I ATE A BOAT AGAIN. M'S. GETTING HIS ASS MADE BY GOTH IS THE MOST. VIOLENT CHAMPION IN THE HISTORY OF THE. W. YEP. YEP. I wanted it. Oh, it looks.

like a little Triple H right there, don't it? It look like a little Triple H. right there. Is he? No. Down. Dead. Dead. >> That was tremendous. Tremendous match. Yes. So, we'll see. LA Knight Gunther. who's going to be John Cena's final. opponent. Either way, it'll be a great. show and a great match and we'll see uh. we'll see Cena out the right way. >> All right, we appreciate you. Please. tell Larry we said good luck tomorrow. Please tell Dana we said congrats on now. officially running a boxing promotion. Had a great launch with Canelo and.

Crawford. Now we'll see what you guys. can do in building an entire. organization to make boxing a sport that. is consistent and hopefully great for. the next what 100 years. >> Mhm. >> Let's see what we can do. Thank you. gentlemen always for having me and for. being so gracious with me. I really. appreciate your time. >> Please tell S we said what's up and he. did great here. He did great setting. this whole thing up. Suit did a great. job. >> We like shout out. I know. >> we like we hated Suit at the beginning. >> at one time. >> At one time we met S. He was working for. another company and he had all the. answers and I think he was forced to.

have all the answers and boy I did not. like his answer. So that was uh that was. an immediate Nope. >> I'll leave it some. Go ahead please. >> No no that's what I said to Chris. Nope. That's what I said to him when I met. him. >> Some people, maybe you, I'm not saying. this, but some people when they meet new. people may not necessarily like them at. the outset. And trust has to be earned. over time rather than other people who. embrace people right away and then get. disappointed by people. So Suit, as you. know, has proven himself over time to.

you. That's Chris Gentle. He does great. work with us. >> To the team. To the team. To the team. Yeah. S S came into our house a long. time ago. >> Long time ago. Sue came into our house. when he was working for a different. company and he sat he sat at my one of. my desks. >> And then he was You're welcome using my. internet with my heat and drinking my. cold water. Okay. >> Bacon. >> in my kitchen. And then all of a sudden. he had all these answers. I'm like, "Who. the [ __ ] are you? Why are you talking to. me?" Yeah, right. I don't know.

>> Talk about the internet. How about 2022. Wrestlemania Dallas? You show up, you're. running 15 minutes, 20 minutes late. I'm. so sorry I'm late. What? We said, "What? What happened? What were you doing?" He. said, "Oh, I was setting up the internet. in my Airbnb." And our question to you. was, "You're still setting up your own. internet? Like, can we get someone to do. this for you?" And boom, here you are. now. You're not setting up your own. internet anymore. >> Well, we need our internet needs fixed. >> If you have any answers, we are. currently in the middle of it. But Nick, we love you, man. We appreciate you.

You're the best. Good luck with. everything. See you. That's Nick Con. >> Once again, I'm not getting paid by any. of his companies right now at this exact. moment. I'm not under contract under any. of his companies. I might I might take a. UFC fight. I mean, [ __ ]. >> Yeah, he might be boxing. >> Yeah, maybe I'm in Zufa. >> Yeah. >> You versus Michael Cole. >> I need one round. He He climbs. mountains. He does like He runs like. six, seven miles a day, that guy. Yeah. >> I don't know if he's still doing that, but the last time I was around him, he. was running like six, seven miles a day.

like relentlessly doing it. That's what. boxing is, right? Oh, yeah. That was the. whole Conor McGregor, you have to had. know how to box. But Conor McGregor, Floyd Mayweather, whenever that fight. was happening, my entire take was like. Conor McGregor right now is not going to. take on something he's not good at. Like, why would he do that? He is on top. of the world. Why would he sign up to. get his ass beat? Like, I don't think. that's going to happen. And then I was. watching videos of him, which I will do. for any sport. If I see a couple. highlights and I know what's possible, it's just like golf. Like, I'll hit one. good shot. I'm like, that's golf. as. opposed to all the other bad ones. I'll.

see a highlight and I'm like, that's. possible. So, if that's possible, that's. what I want. I saw Conor working it. I'm. like, Conor McGregor's gonna win this. fight. He's bigger than him. He's Conor. McGregor's gonna win. He's younger than. him. And then every boxing person was. like, in what world does Conor McGregor. beat Floyd Mayweather? Floyd Mayweather. doesn't get hit. And I'm like, yeah, if. Conor Conor, he he pinpoint accuracy. brings it. >> I mean, there's no problem. He's And. they're like, uh, this is going to be 12. rounds. I think it's going to be 12. rounds. What do you think happens around. like seven, eight, nine, 10, 11, and 12?

I'm like, Conor McGregor's a fighter. He'll be able to figure it out. They're. like, no, boxing is just a different. animal. It's like if you have the. stamina, that is a part of what your. boxing weaponry is. That's why Floyd. Mayweather can hop out of bed right now. off of a plane where he's counting a. bunch of money, get into a boxing ring, and beat the [ __ ] out of anybody because. he can last 15, 20 rounds for the rest. of his life if he want if he wanted to. just get out there. That's a that's a. tough sport to be good at. like a very. you have to earn it. >> Oh yeah. >> Like that's shitty. There's no pill to.

get better at uh cardio. There's no like. you can't take an injection to get. better at conditioning. Like you. actually have to earn that [ __ ] And. that's why boxing is special, I think, because it is so damn hard. It's. obviously changed a lot of people's. lives and trajectory. It's a spectacle. It's an event. And hopefully it becomes, you know, great because I'll watch a. couple boxing a year. >> Bud. you need Bud and Canelo. You need the. stars. You need star power. You need the. big fights, multiple times a year. I'm. not sure about, you know, actual boxers. fighting, you know, three, four times a.

year because. >> need heavyweights ideally. >> brain, but uh. >> ideally. >> you don't think they're going to fight. three times a year? >> I hope not. >> Just for their own good being. >> Yeah, >> nine times sounds crazy. >> Nine. Well, that was before anyone. actually knew what, you know, hey, you. probably shouldn't box nine times in a. year. But. >> yeah, I assume the sell will be. >> here's the amount of money per fight. If. you want to do three of them to move up. our rankings, you can do that now. If. you want to do two fights, cool, but. you're going to lose out on this. opportunity to get these fights. These.

guys are going to be doing this amount. of fights against these people. There's. going to be a point system. So, hey, you. do whatever you want to do. We're just. telling you it's possible if you would. like to do it. And if you're losing. fights, they're not going to have you. continue to fight. I think a lot only. going to be for the winners. But I do. appreciate they say if you do lose, you're not just necessarily kicked out. of the federation. That's because. they're probably going to have to sign. contracts and pay these people for a. long time. >> Mhm. >> So then there's a minimum salary, it. would sound like. >> Yeah, probably. I mean, I'm sure there. is in the UFC, too, >> right? That would sound like there would. be a minimum salary at least. >> I don't know how that would work, though. >> Could it work like the PGA where you're.

making X amount of money no matter what? And they have not a retainer, but money. for some of the other things that you. would need while traveling. Like. >> that guy's last name is crazy. He's he's. he's got a big conversation tomorrow at. Congress for the good of Zufa going. forward. Just snuck that in there. I. didn't hear that coming. He's you know. you got me, you got Dana White, and you. got Lawrence Epste and he'll be talking. tomorrow. And. >> you know him very well. >> Yeah, you met him before. You like him? >> I met him. I don't remember meeting him. Oh, wait, wait, wait, wait. So much.

things. This guy's name is Larry, right? That's not that other one. No relation. Yes, no relation. Thank you. Just need. to hear that. So, he will be going in. tomorrow for a big deal. Hopefully, they're able to figure it out today. big. deal for college football. Uh early. signing day, we've had so many flipped. commitments both in the recruiting. process. I'm going here publicly. Actually, no, I'm going here publicly. And then now even on signing day, we. have people choosing different schools. It's always been like this, but it's. spotlighted and highlighted even more. with all the different business. opportunities and what schools can maybe.

provide at the very last second. If. somebody goes to another school, all of. a sudden, we got an extra $75,000 that. just opened up. Hold the phone. Where do. you want to go? hears this could be. chaos. Ladies and gentlemen, joining us. now is national recruiting reporter for. on three sports. Ladies and gentlemen, Hayes Faucet. >> Hey, how's it going, man? >> Hey, great. How are you? Thank you so. much for joining us. Obviously, insane. day. Let's talk about some of the. storylines that we've seen here early. West Virginia's eating. Is that's. basically what's happening here with the.

Penn State recruitment and. decommmitments. Penn State is kind of. reaping the benefits here or what are. you seeing from West Virginia before we. get started into all the national. stories? >> Yeah, no doubt West Virginia is doing a. great job. You know, obviously a few. weeks ago Kevin Brown rivals number two. interior offensive lineman came on the. show and committed to the Mountaineers. Al he was previously committed to Penn. State. This morning we saw fourstar. safety Matt Sie flip his commitment from. Penn State to West Virginia. Um, coach.

Rich Rodriguez is doing a great job. Um, and also behind the scenes, there's a. recruit to watch. Um, fourstar running. back Amari Vladimir from Georgia. He's. currently committed to Wisconsin, but. there's some talk behind the scenes that. West Virginia's, you know, working to. flip his commitment. So, THAT'S. >> WE'D LIKE A AMOREI. THAT'S WHAT WE WOULD. LIKE over there. West Virginia, come on. He's a running back, you said, from. Georgia. >> Fourstar running back. Yes, sir. >> Look at the offensive line that we're. getting, brother. Look at everybody.

that's coming in. This is for you. We. need Amora. Amore up there in West. Virginia. Wisconsin. Yeah, right now. I. feel dirty kind of even doing that on. signing day. You know, it sounds like, you know, kind of trying to steal. somebody's commitment to somewhere else, but there's been a lot of that. Can you. tell me a little bit more about the. Chris Henry Jr. story? Cuz I think. either on three or rivals reported it. We follow along very closely. We love. what your guys' business does. We. appreciate what you contribute to. college football. That Chris Henry Jr. staying at Ohio State or going with Ohio. State. Then an hour or two later, it was.

reported he had not signed his paperwork. yet. Chris Henry Jr. is a game changer. Brian Hartline obviously leaves Ohio. State today or he's still there. throughout the playoffs, but leaving. Ohio State to go to USF. What are you. hearing about Chris Henry Jr. and uh USC. has the number one recruiting class in. the country and maybe going to add Chris. Henry Jr. to it or is Oregon going to do. their thing? >> Yeah, so as far as Chris Henry Jr. goes. He had a announce a ceremony at a school. this morning and he announced that he. was going to stay with Ohio State.

However, he hasn't officially signed his. letter of intent. It hasn't been sent. into Ohio State, so it's not officially. done until that happens. Um, behind the. scenes, I'm hearing that Oregon and USC. are both making a push. Um, and again, like I said, it doesn't really mean a. thing to that pin hits paper, and I'm. hearing that, you know, both of these. schools are continuing to push really. hard to make that happen. >> All right, Hayes, we need you to stay in. it and on it. We got questions for you. Go ahead, Ty. >> Yeah, Hayes, after uh Jared Curtis, who.

was either the number two or, you know, number one quarterback, like number one. or number two. >> Exactly. Depending on who you look, after he flipped from Georgia to Vandy, is Vanderbilt slowly kind of becoming, you know, like a destination in the SEC? Do you anticipate their class being very. very good this year, especially with. Clark Lee signing an extension and being. there for a while? >> Yeah, no doubt. No doubt. About 2 hours. after Jared's um flip from Georgia to. Vandy, I had a 2027 wide receiver reach.

out to me and we uh committed him to. Vandy. And then today, about 10 minutes. before joining the show, um Vanderbilt. flipped threear wide receiver Owen Cabel. from Alabama. So, that's two big time. SEC program flips, you know, flipping. Jared from Georgia and then Owen from. Alabama. Um, Vanderbilt's doing a great. job. >> Yeah, I'd say Vanderbilt uh locked in. Clark Lee obviously. I think Diego last. week with Busting with the boys alluded. to Curtis becoming the next quarterback.

and I don't think everybody kind of knew. who it was or what it was. And then. whenever this flip happens, obviously. it's just another message from Vandy. that they're for real because obviously. financially you have to be able to keep. up with everybody else and maybe Curtis. is the next one to continue to lead. Vandy into the promised land of the SEC. Let's go up to the Big 10 country, shall. we, Hayes? You know, as we started this. show, Penn State ranked 138th uh in the. recruiting, early recruiting and signing. day here. They were just above Akran, which we were mind blown by, and right.

behind Montana State. Well, now there's. an update. They are now currently. sitting at 150th. Uh. >> yeah, CF Kings report that with yet. another flip uh uh to Virginia Tech, Penn State's recruiting class now sits. 150th overall. Uh so obviously things. are going well for the team that fired. their coach earliest this season and. still don't have a coach. But on that. note, AQ Shipley, Penn State cultist, former Remington award winner for the. Penn State Indian Lions, has a question. for you about where they sit now verse. maybe later. >> Yeah, back when I came out, there was no.

early signing period. Obviously, you see. where they're at right now and obviously. the transfer portal plays a major role. in what goes on now, but how much. usually changes between the early. signing period to the final signing. period. >> Yeah. Who's not signing right now? >> Yeah. So, in terms of that, pretty much. 95% plus of these high school recruits. are signing in December because they. want to go and enroll at the school of. their choice in January so they can get. ahead of, you know, spring practice, get. in the weight room, you know, learn the.

playbook, all that good stuff. So, in. terms of that, there's not really many. recruits that sign in the late signing. period anymore. I mean, I would say 1 to. 2%. So, it's 99% hay in the barn. Uh, you guys are ranked 150th right now. Still got some hours left, though. Still. got some hours left. One of the schools. reaping the benefits recruiting wise, uh, with a brand new head coach, the. former head coach of Penn State, Jame. Franklin squad down there. Tone has a. question for you. >> Yeah, Hayes, I do. A lot of that Penn. State dropping is because I saw I see.

all over your Twitter timeline is James. Franklin flipping commits from Penn. State to Virginia Tech. And also I've. seen like the hashtagbeg great in. Virginia, stay great in Virginia, something like that. How has James. Franklin done in his short time at. Virginia Tech? And do you know where. they're ranked right now or where around. where they're ranked right now? >> Yeah, Virginia Tech is recruiting at a. very high level under James Franklin. Obviously, he had those built-in. relationships with those recruits that. he had committed to him back when he was. at Penn State. Um, there's been 10 plus.

recruits that were committed to Penn. State. flipped to Virginia Tech and now. the Hokes stand at the number 25 class. in the 2026 rivals team industry. rankings. >> West Virginia also moving up the. rankings. Uh Virginia Tech obviously. moving up the rankings. Good for them. Uh I have no idea if this is football or. basketball recruiting here this. particular page, but uh West Virginia is. uh moving up. So is Virginia Tech. So go. ahead. What are you looking for, Ty?

>> Slide up. Just see if. >> Illinois is up there. Miss. >> 22. Okay. Yeah. respect. >> Okay, let's talk about recruiting every. single year. Hayes, this is your life. Go ahead, Debb. >> Yeah, we know how the hot bed of talent. that Louisiana is and that was the. reason big reason why Lane uh took that. job there. What is that LSU class. looking like since Lane has taken over? >> Yeah, the uh the LSU class is looking. great. Since Lane took over, they've. already flipped three recruits. Yesterday, they flipped four-star tight. end JC Anderson. They flipped four-star.

wide receiver Cory Barber this morning. and then yesterday they flipped three. star interior offensive lineman Ryan. Meritt. Um Lane Keifin in company, you. know, showed up in Baton Rouge and. started recruiting right away. Um I. think the Tigers have one of the best. classes in the country. They're. headlined by the number one recruit in. the 2026. on three um rivals team rankings. Lamar. Brown who's showing on camera there with. Kein. Um I I really like where the the.

Tigers class stands and I think Kein's. going to continue to recruit well in. Baton Rouge. >> All right, Hayes, we appreciate the hell. out of you. When's this end? They can. sign anytime. I guess it just started. this morning. This can go on forever. >> Yeah, so the signing period started this. morning and it closes December the 5th. So people can sign from today to Friday. >> All right. Today's the 3rd. Chris Henry Jr. will he sign them pipers. or what? >> We'll find out. >> Why didn't Rich give old Chris Henry Jr.

a call? >> I think he might have actually. >> Maybe we should be g Maybe he ends up in. West Virginia. Oh, wait a minute. >> Let's not get crazy. >> Yeah, >> we got a Mo. We got a Mo. >> You're right. >> He's coming from Georgia. >> You're right. >> You see the big guys up front? >> Yeah, we're going to win this thing. Thank you for telling me that. That's. Hayes faucets. Take. >> Hayes's Twitter account. Hayes's ex. account has been very active. He's on He. lives in it. >> Oh, yeah. >> Which we appreciate. Probably from that. exact seat that he's in right there. I. would assume we were in his bedroom.

right there. >> We were at his computer. >> Yep. >> And that is where he is just. >> That is his workstation. >> That guy is plugged in in the recruiting. cuz recruiting is. >> so vast. High schools everywhere. Two. stars, three stars, our stars, their. stars, every star could potentially be. there. You said I think the number one. or number two recruit because there's. like number at a position, number. nationally for this particular website, the WBO, the WBA, the WBC, the IBF, there's so many different ones and Tone. even gives out his stores. So, I mean, it's a whole different world. Uh Tone,

what were you going to ask about LSU? Cuz I wanted to ask him their uh the. follow-up to the LSU thing, >> but he he kind of said they got a good. class. I I kind of we got it out of. there. Feels like Louisiana in the. recruiting in the signing day is a big. deal to kind of stay claim of where your. organization is at or viewed. Transfer. portal seems like the much more. important time right now for your team. like right now. But I think like the. stability of your culture is kind of. viewed upon the recruiting signing day.

is kind of how I'm looking at this right. now. Like West Virginia getting people. to flip from Penn State is strictly. because there's chaos up there. What's. the culture? They have no idea what it. is. Rich Rod, what's your culture? We. want tough football players down here. This is exactly what we are. Okay. Recruiting is like high school kids. believing in your culture. So like LSU, I guess they're just going there. regardless. But hearing somebody's. leaving from Alabama to go somewhere. else. Crazy to me. That's like crazy to. me that they would even because if. you're at the point where you're saying, "I want to go to Bama.". >> Yeah. >> Feels like you've already made up your. mind like, "Hey, this is what I want to. do." So for them for you to change your.

mind, go elsewhere, it's like, does that. worry me about Alabama a little bit or. is that just mean somebody else opened. up a little bit more money because one. of their recruits that they thought they. had ended up going somewhere else? >> Flipping from Bama to Vanderbilt is. crazy. Like that is like that actually. is like a massive like. >> Penn State to West Virginia. >> Yeah, same deal. >> That's a big [ __ ] deal. Yeah, >> that is that is a big deal. >> Bama coach. >> Bama is still number. >> I know. That's what I'm saying. That. sucks for you, but it's like great for. us, but Penn State, like that's Big 10. recruits. The. >> Penn State guys end up in the NFL.

>> Yeah. >> There's a lot of That's an NFL pipeline. >> They all went back. >> What's that? >> All those Penn State guys went back just. because like the tradition and. everything. Like we were we're two. months removed from Penn State having. the most money, h having the most. attractive job, >> number two, >> number two in the country, >> and being like the premier place to go. like they put all this money into every. single sport, not just football. Like. they're all in on sports and now two. months later we're at a place where Penn. State is like you don't even want to.

touch it if you're a coach. Like I don't. understand how the hell we got here. It. is insane. >> Well, and I guess I I don't know if we. maybe just got too ahead of our skis. because like the the re like the reality. is Penn State is the third best job in. the Big 10. Like it is never going to be. better than Ohio State or Michigan. >> or. I guess. Yeah, you could throw Oregon. USC has the number one recruiting class. Like it it you know, so it was like. >> I don't want to I don't want to You're. right here. So you're having to hear all. this. >> No, no, no. Let's lay it on.

>> You guys You guys all have constant. buys, which is fine. But at the end of. the day, like. >> like Oregon's won how many national. championships? How many? You tell me. >> Zero. >> But to. How many times have they had the 15th. recruiting class in the country? >> Who cares? Doesn't matter. You got to. win a national championship. That's what. it's all about nowadays. The reason Nick. Sabin should pops up there every day is. because he's got seven titles next to. his name. >> Correct. So Dan Lannon can be great all. he wants and tell all the great speeches. and go out recruit USC and bring in this. quarterback and guess what? Go play in.

the Insight Bowl or play in the college. football playoffs and lose in the third. or second round. It does nothing. It. means nothing anymore. You win or you. don't. Period. >> Penn State pissed off the wrong guy. >> Yeah, I watch. >> they're saying big deluxe brother. Yeah, I was talking about a bigger guy. >> They're saying big Deluxe said. >> that guy. >> Week five, you want to fire my guy? >> Okay. Yeah. >> Okay. We'll see if anybody comes. Coach, it's for you guys. >> We don't know if that's real or not, but. that is certainly a theory that has been. out there and uh maybe Penn State has. had an idea all along. We're skipping.

signing day. 95% of the signings happen. We don't want to be a part of it. We. like to be a part of the 5%. They zigg. We zag. Maybe that's where they're at. Or maybe Penn State's about to fall back. 10, 15, 20, 30, 40, 50 years. But if. they did that, they'd be good. Oh no. Maybe this is what the next 30, 40, 50. years look like. Oh no. West Virginia's. taking all your recruits. Oh no. We'll. see you tomorrow. Goodbye. That's a. great way to sign off. >> Oh no. For Penn State's just a couple. big ones. >> The guy's still there. The guy we've all.

been talking about, or at least I have. >> Terry Smith. >> He's still sitting right there. >> Terry Smith. Yeah. >> Day ball sitting right there. Looks just. like me. Little bald white guy right. there. He's sitting right there waiting. Right there. Go get him. >> What if he doesn't want to do it. anymore? >> Yeah, he might have his back turned. You. tap him on the shoulder and get the [ __ ]. away from me. I don't want to do that. >> He might. >> I'd rather just go be an offense. coordinator in the NFL. You remember. what I did when I did that? Five Super. Bowls. >> Or the head coach somewhere else. I. mean, he might get a head coaching. >> What are the coaching changes that are. going to happen in the NFL?

>> Raiders. >> I would like to certainly. >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> Maybe Miami. >> Well, Tennessee already's open, right? AFC North across the board. M that. Tomlin stuff's crazy. That You're from. Pittsburgh. You don't really, you know. >> No, he's not. >> He doesn't claim it like I do. >> Pittsburgh. Pittsburgh in my blood. >> My roots. >> Okay. All right. Okay. I appreciate. that. >> He is a legacy. >> Hall of Famer. >> Yeah, he's a lot of things. He's a WOIO. Hall of Famer. You're right. Western.

Pennsylvania Scholastic Athletic League. Hall of Famer because how great he was. at basketball over there in Western. Pennsylvania. And certainly a good. thing. Coach Tomlin, your friends and. your family, obviously Steelers fans, they are a very judgmental bunch, okay? They expect to be great. They want to be. great. And even if you are great, it. needs to be great in the way that we see. it to be great. You know, they like the. killer bees there for a while because it. was fun, but inevitably that wasn't. really like what Pittsburgh Steeler. football is. We need to control line of. scrimmage. We need to be tougher. We. need to fight. That's what we need to. be.

>> And what they've been seeing from coach. Tomlin and this particular regime is. above average football. So they have a. winning team. They can win any game, but. they proven they can lose any game as. well. And now this year, three home. blowouts. Okay. In Acer, they booed. Renegade. You heard about this? >> I heard all about it. I saw it, too. >> [ __ ] save it, dude.

Sticks don't deserve to be played with. this horseshit football team. That's. what they're saying. It's getting louder. than ever. Fire Tomlin. Fire Tom at the game. >> I know. I heard it. >> on national television. They're chanting. that. They've done that before. It has. worked because they are relentless with. their chance in Pittsburgh. What are. your thoughts with everything in. Pittsburgh as a former Pittsburgh. Steeler, as a person that grew up in the. area and has friends all around you as.

Steelers fans? Because every time I. speak, I just try to reflect what I'm. hearing from the streets of Pittsburgh. Same. >> and the people that I know from. Pittsburgh might all be too similar and. like view it the same way. So maybe. there's a little diversity and thought. in Pittsburgh that I'm not hearing, but. man, they are pretty bummed out about. this entire thing. And I think it's. actually your first takeaway, ladies and. gentlemen. AQ Shipley's first takeaway. coming out week 13. THE SILK CURTAIN. >> OH GOODNESS. >> Oh gosh. >> Silky soft. Silky soft.

>> That's what the That's what the iners. think of this Steelers team. >> It's a soft team. We're not supposed to. be a soft team. This is soft team. They're the silk curtain. The softest of. them all. You think that's where their. biggest problem is? >> I do. I think you have to be able to. stop the run. And I think the standard. has always been set in Pittsburgh that. you have to stop the run. You have to. get off a block. You have to play. Steelers defense, which is steel. curtain, not silky curtain, if you get. what I'm saying here. So, if you take a. look right here, >> steel hard, silk soft. >> Look at the holes that are here.

Nobody's getting off a block. And let me. tell you when I say this, and JJ said. they just ran duo, duo, duo, duo. They. ran duo, they ran inside zone, which if. you look at it on paper, they you end up. on the exact same people. The blocking. scheme is the exact same. The. difference, this play right here is. going to be duo. So, he's going to open. up to his left, hand off to his left. If. it was inside zone, it'd be going to the. open side right here. Look at the holes. every single time. These two are the. smallest holes of the four I got on. tape. Let's go to the third one. The. third one. Wait, do you see this one? This is unbelievable. Again, send the.

motion. He's reading the safeties, pointing it out, making sure we're on. the same page. Josh Allen, come down. This is a hole right up the middle of. the Steelers defense. >> That's a big gaping HOLE. >> RIGHT DOWN BROADWAY. HELD OUT. >> THE logo. >> and they keep running the same play over. and over again. This plays on third and. one. Look at that. >> That's inside zone there. >> That's inside zone. You're you're. running it to the open side, bending it. back right up the middle. You get them. one-on-one with a safety. But again, third and one with a 15 yd wide hole.

>> Okay. Can you tell me a little bit more. about football here duo? You don't know. what hole is going to bust open, but a. hole is going to bust open to the right. is what they're thinking whenever. they're running it. >> So listen, this is. >> So let's see which way he opens up. Let's see what he does here. So this is. inside zone. So he's going open side, inside zone. But if this was duo, he'd. open up to his right-handed off and you. end up on the same exact people. >> No, but the running back though, any. hole that's available. >> So it's for both plays, whether it's. inside zone or duo. Yes, there is a. aiming point. There is a landmark and. you are meant So that inside zone play,

you are starting at the inside leg of. the tackle and then you can make the cut. off of there and you can hit either. front side, you can hit front side A, you can hit backside A, backside B, or. bounce it out the back side. And you're. literally just reading how they block it. up front and find in the hole. >> Okay. Can you go back to the duo which. was uh the play beforehand here? Yeah. So this one's supposed to go tackle. right side. >> Front side a gap. This should hit front. side a gap. But again if. >> which is in between Josh Allen and 64. >> Correct. And if you see TJ Watt stand. up. He's trying to close this down. He.

probably recognizes that's what it is. But they do a good job. Jackson Halls. the rookie tight end closes him down. You fill in the safety and now he can. bounce it outside. >> So he's just looking for space. That's. it. >> Here's the This is desired spot. But if. you're an offensive lineman and you're. getting beat, just carry them that way. >> The whole thing as an offensive lineman. is take them where they want to go. That's the whole thing they teach you. Hey, listen. My aiming point is this. I'm going to get my head on the inside. I'm going to be heavy with my backside. arm and I'm going to drive. But if he's. going to flow heavy this way, now I. torque him and I take him that way. And.

you cut off my backside. >> Okay. So, there isn't necessarily. there's a goal like, hey, this is. supposed to be an A gap run, but every. run could be wherever the [ __ ] hole. is. >> Correct. >> Got it. So, an offensive lineman can't. be judged just specifically if he opened. the hole that it was supposed to be. Even though in that case, he certainly. did. But there's other times where he. doesn't, but he creates a massive hole. the other way. That's still a successful. rep. >> Absolutely. And you will see later in in. the trenches, Green Bay Packers play. Actually, just there's a little. >> spoiler, >> little spoiler. They're going to be in. there somewhere. Don't know where, but. you will see. >> First time this year. Let's [ __ ] go.

>> Wow. >> But you will see them basically take. guys where they want. guys will move. Defensive lineman will move and now, okay, I was supposed to block him, but I. put the brakes on and now I work back. and I work with this guy, right? So, it's what it looks like on paper versus. what it looks like on film. Two. completely different things. >> cuz I played uh pee-wee football over in. Plum for a few weeks. I was on 10 digs. this team. It was a good time. I was a. running back, safety, linebacker, offensive lineman, DTackle, and and punt. returner in uh about three, four weeks.

of action. It just so happened to be in. the middle of cup soccer, which is the. most important part of soccer. I made a. tackle and then slid onto some cement at. one field. So, it was kind of like a. hey, >> like the national team's looking at you. for soccer. How are we doing here? We're. doing okay. >> You win league MVP doing okay over here. But it was a good time. I forget what it. was 24 or something is to the right and. like. >> Yeah. So, even numbers to the right, odd. to the left. >> But smaller is closer to the center. >> Yeah. >> Okay. Cuz I always assume that there was. a hole that is exactly where we're all. aiming for. But after watching James.

Cook do his thing, it's like, oh, he's. just going anywhere. Saquon, he's going. anywhere. Jamir Gibbs, he's going. anywhere and it's still a successful rep. by the offensive line. It's not like the. offensive line is bummed out that it. didn't go through the desired gap, right? >> That's exactly right. And if you look at. this that play Fox, he run the play that. just ran, right? If you watch James. Cook, a lot of running backs bend it. back even before they get the ball. But. what James Cook does such a great job. and the good backs do such a great job. See how he stays front side setting up. the block to get the seal. It keeps the. backers on that side and then that sets.

up the block of your offensive lineman. and you know where the cut is. >> So whenever guys can't find a damn hole. that's problematic for you guys. >> Yeah. Very. >> The offensive lineman go. >> we had one. >> The good ones can create them. Correct. >> You said because we're as defenders we. can see the back. So we're trying to. beat him and kind of get there. Oh. linement can't see him. They can, you. know, they know how to play a design, but the good ones, they'll kind of bend, lean this way, get us on that and kind. of give that leverage to AQ and then. just boom, hit it, get north and south.

>> That was Gibbs' overtime touchdown. against the Giants. Like AQ broke that. down. Like the whole reason he set it up. is cuz he leaned to the right, safety. came down, went left, and then Gibbs. just went the opposite way, and it was a. touchdown. >> That's returners on uh kickoff as well. Returners on kickoffs. If they set up a. block for somebody, life's a lot better. You'll see like young guys just kind of. hit one way and it's like you're not. helping anybody here. That's right. You're you're not helping anybody. We. need a little bit of leverage, a little. bit of a help on this entire thing. >> Actually, a huge reason Trevian. Henderson didn't play very often early. on in the season is cuz he was getting.

the ball on tosses and then just running. past linemen and getting tackled for two. yards. Like that was something he had to. learn. Like, hey, you need to slow down. and wait for your guys to actually. block. >> Levy on Bill. >> Oh my gosh, >> he was the best. >> for you guys. >> Levy, >> the best. Let's see. Oh, that guy's a. great guy. >> I mean, he was the best at he had the. best stop and start in football. He'd. sit there and just hide behind guys. He'd lean his head this way, somebody go. there, and then boom, gone. See you. through the gap. >> Yeah, they showed 45 of his plays the. week we were playing the Steelers. >> I didn't see a single Ben Rothosberger.

throw. He could do that, too. >> Well, you were prepared, I think, for. Liv. >> Yeah, that was that. I mean, you had to. be because he was dominant run game and. at that point he could have been a. number two wide receiver for anybody at. that point, too. when he got split out. he was a problem but yeah with those. killer bees obviously you had AB who's. the best wide receiver in balls so. >> and Martavis. >> Martavis was a freak they had one more. guy too I can't remember who but um yeah. >> Tone probably knows. >> Tone who was it. >> no it was uh number 11 I'm drawing a.

blank. >> Emanuel Sanders. >> Lev on Bell in the back Antonio Brown. Martavis Bryant. >> Heath Heath in the middle Ben. Rothosberger spinning it. >> and I'll tell you what We watched the. highlight. >> Don't forget them boys up there. >> Yeah, I was about to say that dog Castro. Pouncy and Raone Foster. >> in the middle. >> Golly, what a time. >> Arty Smith's going to get that. Let's. go, boys. >> Good luck, boys. >> I don't like you called them the silk. curtain, saying they're soft. Saying.

they're soft. Pittsburgh saying the same. thing. That's why they're asking for. maybe a reset. >> I wouldn't have chose silk. Silk's like. a very strong thread. They have soft. feeling. Soft feeling. You know, it's. soft. >> Shite does feel very soft. >> What would you say? Cotton curtain. >> Cotton would have been good. >> I don't like cashmere. >> Cashmir. >> Super soft. That's the furry stuff, right? >> Like spiderw webs are made out of silk. Those things are strong. >> Not really. Every time I bat them, they're gone. But they do wrap around my. hand. I guess. >> perspective to what's hitting them. >> Well, yeah, in comparison, I guess. But.

silk too, I guess it can catch you if. you really wanted to. But when you put. your face on, it's like, wow, this feels. like it's expensive. >> Yeah. You never been hit by Peter. Parker. Oh, Miles Morales. That's a problem. >> Mine's Toby. Is that who you're talking. about? >> Yeah. Toby McGuire Parker. >> Yeah. >> Is that me, too? Who's the other one? >> Toby did the upside down sucker. Andrew. Yeah. Andrew Garfield. >> That lady. >> Tom Holland. >> Little respect to Tom. >> Yeah. Yeah. I think I think Tom Holland. is my guy.

>> Okay. Who's your Grinch? >> Oh. >> What's the anime? Boris Caroff. No. Better cover. >> Cumberbatch. >> Well, the originals Boris Caroff. >> Okay. So, you're talking about the. cartoon? Yeah, the word that started it. all. Yeah, >> I'm talking about the Yes, I understand. which one you're talking. Oh, OG, thank. you for being a classic for us and thank. you for having that name. There's no way. you're supposed to have the original. Grinch's cartoonist name. Okay, you're. not supposed to have that. But. Cumberbatch is his name. >> He's pretty good. I'll tell you what, I.

wanted to hate it cuz I like the Jim. Carrey Grinch the most. That's like. maybe the Santa Claus with Tim Allen and. the Grinch with uh Jim Carrey for me. mustwatch. Home Alone two you can throw. in there. Jingle all the way I think you. can toss in there. Uh obviously there's. others but for those I think the Grinch. with Jim Carrey and the Santa Claus are. the two for me that are at the top of. the class. So then when the new Grinch. comes in I want to see this [ __ ] It's. already been done. Jim Car's the Grinch. That's all you see. Watching with my. daughter obviously cuz songs and. animation and everything. It's a good. movie. Hey, he's really good.

>> Very good. >> And Farel I think does the music for it. >> Tyler the Creator. >> Oh that's Tyler the Creator did the. music. Fel might have a song, but I know. Tyler the creator was like a massive. part of the soundtrack. >> The music is really good, too. You know, my my daughter obviously loves it. So, those. >> Yeah. It's uh the same company's Minions. and stuff like that. So, >> Illumination. >> Yeah. Illumination. Fil's high. >> And they have a great, you know, little. lead in for the movie. >> Oh, yeah. With the minions. >> Oh, yeah. So good. >> Yeah. With the little rabbit from the. the dog searching movie.

>> Y. >> I'll tell you what, my daughter's. locked. This is my first time watching. kids movies. I'll tell you what, these. things are pretty good. These things are. pretty good. Good stories in there. >> Foxy just went to the movies to see. Zootopia, too. He said it was great. >> Yeah, it was very good. >> Who's in Zootopia? >> Uh Jason, Jason. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> Okay. Sick. It was good. >> Yeah, it was very good. My nephews loved. it. >> Popcorn. >> Popcorn. I got an ice cold beer cuz you. can do that now. We got all the candy. you can get. Yeah, it was great. >> What? So you're So there was little Fox. boys around and we just said, "Hey, this.

is what you do. You get beer and you. watch movies.". >> Yeah. Exactly. And they got water and. then we did uh. >> and we steal their water cuz obviously. the beer and the popcorn kind of leave. us a little dehydrated. >> Yeah, you got to do that. >> Yeah. Why don't you give them a little. Mountain? They all had huge popcorn buckets and. they each got a full candy thing. We. didn't need to add popcorn. >> Who took them on this trip? Who was all. there? >> Whole family was there. We haven't done. this literally since I was probably like. seven years old. It was awesome. >> That does sound awesome. I don't know if. it was under your orders that they're.

drinking water while watching a movie at. a movie theater. Something. >> something. >> Jeez Louise. >> Water's good for you. You got to drink. water. >> Of course it's good for you. We're at a. movie theater. They're giving you. the amount of butter they're putting on. the popcorn. >> So good. >> You're drinking ice cold tall beer out. there. >> Movie theater was supposed to kind of. indulge a little bit. >> And it was 3D which I really enjoyed. >> Wow. You were in there. >> Mhm. >> Yeah. You put the glasses on. Yep. Did. you return your glasses safely? >> They don't make you do that anymore. I.

thought you had to do that. Environment's going to [ __ ]. >> People are wondering about the movie. business, Dian. Maybe they need to start. recycling the [ __ ] glasses to turn a. little profit in that entire thing. >> Shout out to Christmas movies though. >> It's good time to make good Christmas. movies. It's nice to watch them. I. always feel good. And shout out to. Arnold Schwarzenegger getting it all. done there. The way. >> shout Simbad for, you know, there's a. lot of [ __ ] parents out there around. Christmas as well. >> Yeah. And to hell with that neighbor. Rest in peace. >> Yeah. Phil Hartman. Yeah. >> Trying to slide in. This guy's trying to.

work, make a living. >> Yeah. >> You're trying to bop his wife. It's. [ __ ] Christmas, dude. >> Exactly. >> Back off. >> No kidding. >> Jingle all the way. >> Mhm. >> What's your second takeaway from week 13. of the NFL season? AQ Shipley. >> Ben's bully ball. >> Whoa. >> Yeah. >> And it always starts with the run with. Ben Johnson. I think we always think, oh, he's so creative in the pass game. and all these different things. No, it. starts with the run game. And it always. starts with the run game and the. creative and the deception, all the.

stuff. Send KT over. Send DJ Moore back. All it does is occupy the backside end. Creates the. >> big GAPING HOLE. >> YOU'RE GOING TO SEE A lot of them on. this one. Here we go again. Send him. back. Guess what we're going to do? We're going to leave that three tech. unblocked. Just get in his way. Create. It's called split zone. This is huge. right now. All you're doing, you're. stretching the front side, sending the. backside tackle out, sending the guard. through, and cutting him off. This one's. awesome. Look, the tight end in motion. falls down right here. They send Darnell. Wright out to the right. Jaylen Carter's. lost. What's going to happen? What do I. do? Okay, cool. I get back up, still get.

the block, and walk in touchdown. Easy. >> So, that's all wpped, obviously. What. else? Mindset like in Ben Johnson's. scheme and strategy is just one that. these boys want to demolish people in. >> He's so good. He was one step ahead this. entire game. If we can run this one back. to beginning, watch when they send the. motion. Watch what does the safety. Okay, let's rock and roll. He just took. the guy out of the gap and where they're. running. You see what I'm saying? So the. whole entire game plan is how can I. create one less on defense to where I. want to go and that's what he's done. >> And he's like the best of all time at it.

>> cuz remember McDaniel was super smart on. the um motions and pre-shifts and. everything like that. That certainly was. revolutionary. They hung 70 on the. Denver Broncos defense. It was special. between he and Tua. I think a lot of the. defenses maybe caught up to what he was. doing. What does he do differently? He. just does his [ __ ] with intent and. purposes that are specific and a little. bit different than maybe anybody else. that has done it before. >> He's so good at doing this stuff right. here. When you put DJ Moore in the. backfield, you make this look like it's. going to be play action out here to the. right and you're going to throw a little. naked hide to him. Well, it occupies.

that guy or you're going to send this. motion when you know what the coverage. is going to be pre- snap. You send the. motion as they rock and roll the safety. and then all of a sudden guys disappear. Look at Go back to this one real quick. Go back to the beginning. Watch this. So, whenever he comes across, goes. there. Now, look what all these guys are. fitting outside. So Cooper Deene comes. outside or Blankenship or whoever these. guys, they all come down. They don't. know where to fill. They have no idea. where to fill. But he's creating and. manipulating everything to create the. holes that he wants. >> Ben Johnson, you guys. I'll tell you. what, Maron. >> Yeah. I'm going to say something right.

now. I miss this. And I mean, no. disrespect to our O line. Gibbs, Monty, we're running the ball fine, but it's. not like this. And this is why. everyone's like, "You guys suck on. fourth downs." Well, on fourth and two, fourth and three when you got to have. it. Last year, two years ago, we had. some cool creative motion run off the. tackle, you know, deception, easy first. down. What do we do against the Packers? Ty, fourth and shotgun, hand off to.

Gibbs, stuffed. It was disgusting. And I. was like, that's the Ben Johnson. difference right there. >> Well, here's some stats to your point. about fourth downs. Uh maybe you guys. ran out of plays. Weeks 1 through 10, you were 13 of 18. >> Wow. >> Then 0 of seven. >> How many weeks has uh Campbell been. calling the play since week 11? Right. >> Okay. >> What's your problem? >> I'm just throwing it out there. >> No. Yeah. Interesting stats and. information to drop at key times.

>> Yeah. Just throw it out there. >> Yeah. They're going for it a little bit. >> Yeah. >> Okay. They're going for it. Maybe the. players are already maybe the well has. run dry in fourth down plays. But it. does feel like Ben Johnson's a special. play designer. >> The Bears also getting Kyle Manungi in. the seventh round. I think a lot of. people would just been like whatever. But if you watch Big 10 football, him at. Ruckers like he couldn't have went to a. more perfect location. >> All right, let's go to the third. takeaway here for AQ Shipley of week 13. America's most dangerous. Wow, they're. wanted, huh? Every team's looking for.

this. Instead, it's Dak, CD, and GP. taking over all the highlights. Uh, AQ, it's special to watch them, isn't it? >> It really is. They're so good. And it. starts with Dak, obviously, because he. is leading the league in passing yards, but guess what? He's got two weapons. now. Just doesn't have CD Lamb. He's. also got Ferguson as a tight end. But. look at this. All these plays are on. third down, by the way. Up top, you're. going to see a little deep dig route. Third and six, I think it is. Third, whatever it is. Third, and he gets a 16. yd gain. Deep dig. Now, check the next.

play here. Let's watch this. Watch this. stutter and go up top. Boom. That's on. McDuffy. Leave him. Go get it. Make a. play on one of the best corners in the. league. >> Third down. >> Those are both on third down. Now, let's. get to Pickkins. Okay. One of the best. gets of the offseason again. Third down. Cover zero, right? They bring everybody. They pick it up enough. Get it to. Pickkins. Get back outside. Watch this. Beat him. Now hurdle him. I mean, this. guy's an absolute weapon. Absolute. weapon. Now money time. Three-point. lead. Fourth quarter. Can't give the. ball back to Momes. Fourth down or third.

down, go to pickins when you need it. Winner winner chicken dinner. Game over. >> Okay. So, anytime you have two ones, Deb, but obviously it's a numbers game. all of a sudden. Changing of the math. >> Absolutely. And they have a good running. back as well. Good offensive line. running back. So, they have the weapons, you mentioned it, but when you have that. number one, when you're going in game. plan on Wednesday, when you have, you. remember the game records that we put on. the board, 88 and three is going to be. on that. So, if I'm a free safety, where. do I lean? You know, George Pickkins, we. saw a couple big time post routes and. that's kind of been the conversation. take away the I mean not post slant.

routes. Take away the slant, take away. the slant. But everybody knows his kind. of number one thing is that deep ball. So when you have that ability and he. does most of his damage on the outside, that slant is almost always going to be. available because a lot of these corners. are terrified of getting beat deep down. the sideline. And then Dak, I mean Dak. is playing at an unbelievable level. Like he's not going to miss these. throws. These guys going to be open. Got. a chance to watch some of hard knocks. last night. like his leadership. obviously from his starts at the head. coach position with Shotti and then Dak. just seeing him on the sideline and the.

guys they they love each other. They're. playing they're playing great ball right. now on offense. Hopefully they can pick. it up on defense and make a real run. >> I really like Dak. I think I forgot that. about uh Hard Knocks they had a couple. years back. It was like oh Dak's a dude. >> Like Dak says [ __ ] Dak is a guy. Like. Dak is a dude. Like that is what I I. think that's why we enjoy Hard Knock so. much is because we get a chance to kind. of see who they actually are even though. it's highly edited and everything like. that. They're not going to bury anybody. It's an NFL films production, but once. you see the interactions and how he.

responds to situations and how he. decides to talk to people, it's like. >> Dak's a guy. Dak's a guy. And Shotty. might be too. Yeah. >> You know, it's his first year as a head. coach. There's a moment in there. They're down 21, right? And Shotty goes. over to Dak and just simply asks him a. question, right? >> Yeah. They're about to go on the field. and Shotty just says like, "Do you still. love football?" And Dak says, "Yeah.". And Shotty just turns around and says, "I [ __ ] love football." And then they. cut to, you know, them driving the ball. down the field. I mean, it really is. just an incredible little uh peak into. what their building's all about. And we.

have the clip. >> Hey, you still like football? >> I [ __ ] love football. It's [ __ ]. dope. >> Down 21. Throw it in the end zone. Touchdown. It's back. Hard Knox is back. They're. covering the entire NFC East. Obviously, there's a lot of storylines. Oh, yeah. And the Dallas Cowboys might be for.

real. Like, uh, and they might be the. best team in ball. Good timing, right? >> Yeah. No, I mean, tomorrow's an absolute. must win tomorrow. >> Well, what's tomorrow? What's. >> We got Lions, Cowboys. Basically, >> Lions can't lose right now. >> All the analytics are saying that. whoever loses this game will not make. the playoffs. And with how Dallas looks. and how we have looked the last couple. weeks, I am very nervous for this game. right now. >> Well, Detroit, yeah, I'm sure there's. some good stats coming out. Even though. we saw some bad ones, uh the fourth down. ones, there's some stats coming out.

about the Cowboys offense that seems to. be okay. Uh last couple weeks, they. gained 473 yards and 457 yards. >> Oh boy. >> Yeah. And obviously all the highlights. we just watched were from one week. We. we assume that maybe continues. >> Aman Ra might play though. Might. >> we like Aman Ra. >> looking like he won't but he. >> we like Jared Goff. >> We like Sonic and Knuckles. >> Oh yeah. Those guys have been fine. Actually the last couple weeks it's. really been the defense and Terry Arnold. just went on IR so that's no good. >> Pennies.

I I'm sorry. It's just it's for me I'm a. Lions fan so like it's not a big deal if. we don't make the playoffs. I'm used to. this, but it has been like three years. until I've seen a team be this bad. So, it's been quite some time. Yeah. And. still holding on to hope. >> A lot of injuries last year, too. So, you didn't really get a chance to really. fully believe last year. >> Two years ago, we're this close to the. Super Bowl. Bummed out about that now. >> Yeah. Still going to be bummed out that. for a long time, I think, especially. with if the Bears are doing what the. Bears are doing and that guy was in your. building, so you're going to have to see.

him. And that maybe that's why everybody. in Detroit was so mad. >> whenever Ben took the Chicago. He could. have took any job. you stayed in. division. [ __ ] you, Ben Johnson. Lions. says, "Well, we're going to be okay. anyways." Then Peter Shriger's like, "I. don't know if the [ __ ] Lions make the. playoffs.". >> And you know what? >> That's what he said. >> You know what? Out of everything, [ __ ]. I don't care that we aren't making the. playoffs. I don't care that we don't. look that good. The fact that him and. all the haters are right, that's what. pisses me off. >> Yeah, they were. >> That makes me mad. >> Shank said, "I'm not doing a victory.

lap." But you look at Ben Johnson. leaving, there was a reason everybody. wanted him. Do you think that might have. a little bit of an impact? And then. defense coordinator as well. Yeah, I. don't want once again I'm not taking a. victory lap. Whenever I said the Lions. weren't going to make the playoffs, obviously a lot of people were calling. me very mean names. People are saying. very mean things from Detroit about me. And uh once again, this is not a victory. lap, but they lose Thursday night. They're probably not going to make the. playoffs. That's basically what Shank. said the other day. >> Yeah. And then he's got Ben on his show. and clearly he has no one in the. building in Detroit. So I know his. angle. Okay, Sh. But it still pisses me.

off. >> Does anybody have anybody in the. building in Detroit? No, >> it does say it doesn't feel like that. >> Uh, whoever released the Ragnaw thing, was that rap sheet or G follow or. something? That was my only thought is. the Ragnar news. Maybe that. >> Detroit keeps it pretty tight up there. Pretty tight up there. >> Should have did the physical first. probably. >> Probably. >> before the post. >> or they should have just cleared him. I. mean, he wanted to play. Let's just. clear the guy and it gets hurt. That's. on him. >> Yeah, >> let's think about that for once. I mean, with the Patriots, you guys probably. would have did that for sure. >> No, that's not how the medical works in. the NFL, brother. >> Oh, really? Because I've seen a lot of.

guys go into that blue tent and come out. and they're looking crosseyed, but. they're still playing. >> Yeah, I think that is. >> Those are unaffiliated neurological. consultants. Heys, >> we were going back to the Super Bowl. just one week ago today and now we're. not. I'm pissed off. >> Don't give up yet. >> Hey, but remember Jack White and Eminem. [ __ ] killed it. >> Killed it. >> They won Thanksgiving. >> They were awesome. >> Do you know much Jack White you do? I. do. I'm big Jack White.

>> See, me too. I kind of know Jack White. as well. Even I didn't know the new song. though. I guess that's a brand new song. >> Didn't know that song either. >> Yeah. But watching him just do his [ __ ]. I was like, who cares if you know you're. watching a [ __ ] show here. Like that. is. >> there's there's a documentary. I forget. what it's called, but it's one of my. favorite scenes. And it's him, the dude. from YouTube, and the dude from Led. Zeppelin. All the guitars. >> The Edge. >> There. There it is. And then is it uh. Jimmy Paige? Maybe. So all three of them. sitting there and they just start like. talking about. So they they bring up.

White Stripes and they talk about like. how it came about and then all the other. two jump in on the guitar and they have. a little session and then this guy talks. about Cashmere from Lad Led Zeppelin. talks about how it was like a part of. another song that they didn't use and. then all of a sudden. and then this guy hops in and then they. they're all just sitting there just jam. It is awesome to watch. >> Yeah. Real talents. >> It's unbelievable. >> Yeah. You're watching like actual talent. at work here and that's what that show. was. It was good. It was a [ __ ] great. show. >> It was. >> Lions got kind of stink.

>> Yeah. >> We'll find out tomorrow. Tomorrow's it. >> We're going to find out a lot tomorrow. >> I You know, Foxy, I don't love where. we're at, you and me. >> We're both in the same position. >> You guys are better off than me. >> We're tied for first. >> You guys are all [ __ ] [ __ ] So, I. don't even know why you were even. talking about your guys' teams. >> Well, that's kind of what I was getting. to. >> I think Foxy and I understand. see the. writing on the wall with our particular. teams right now with how we are and what. is happening. >> and then we see the other teams that we.

think probably do have a chance to go. Yes, your team is one of those teams. >> Oh yeah. And the buys right now. So. we're going to be very fresh. >> Exactly. So I think whenever I look at. the Colts team that I love, team that I. am a season ticket holder, payer for, team that I support, friends with the. people that run the [ __ ] team. actually love the city doing well. Very. grateful for that. I had eyes on that. team this weekend and Houston Texans.

defense is number one. They are. >> No doubt. >> They're so good. They are so good. They're going to make a lot of teams not. look good. But then you go back to the. Chiefs game as well and then you add in. the the fracture fibula. >> And the reason why I think people didn't. think Daniel Jones would work in this. offense, only Anthony Richardson could. work in this offense, is because I think. people didn't fully understand the. athleticism of Daniel Jones. Daniel. Jones. white as milk. Maybe the whitest.

>> Mhm. >> He might be [ __ ] whole milk white. >> Yeah. >> Nerd. Yeah. >> Dresses very very mayonnaise. >> old navy model. >> whitest. So I think people immediately think this. guy came from the Eli Manning school. quarterback school. Pton Manning. quarterback school and he appears to. look. immobile. >> This guy can't be that athletic. Daniel. Jones is freak athlete. Very very fast,

very very strong. Jumps high. All those. things. That's a huge part of his game. Actually, being able to run, extend a. play and do it is why I thought if not. Anthony, Daniel Jones, same offense. here. Actually, same offense. I don't. think a lot of people were viewing it. that way. And now that he can't, you saw. that video from Thursday practice. I. mean, that is that was when I knew. immediately. The reason why I like. Daniel Jones is because his mobility, because of what he's able to do. And now. I don't think he can move. And do those. things just heal? Well, I I don't We.

need to get on like the vibr how how do. fractures hairline fractures heal? I. don't know how they heal. >> this time. >> We don't have it moral chamber. >> It'll be all right. >> The answer building. The answer's in the. building. >> You put them out wide anytime you want a. threat of a running quarterback. You. motion Tyler Warren into quarterback. >> You run the zone, Reed, with him. >> So then what's Daniel Jones doing? >> Blocking out on the edge. >> He's just chilling until we're doing a. drop back pass. We we keep him in the. block. So Daniel Jones is in there. He's.

a shotgun. Y. >> and then he. >> he goes motion and he goes out to wide. receiver. Tyler Warren comes in. So. who's respecting him out there? Corner. >> don't need him. Got to. >> corner has to respect him. >> Go out there. >> Even if the guy can't really run. >> Got to go out there. >> So we we're taking one for one out. there. Yeah. >> And then now we got once again 10 on 10. in here. >> That's right. >> And Tyler Warren's quarterback. >> Listen, let's dump that. We need to send. that to Shane Stiken immediately. I'm. assuming he already thought of this. Well, we we had a a fumble on a fourth.

and one. >> Yeah. And Tyler Warren already. completely [ __ ] it when he was playing. quarterback this week. >> This guy's a rookie. Okay. There's going. to be moments where it's not great. >> Touch push though. I mean, let's give. him the ball in like a zone read thing. Let this guy just run quarterback power. like Josh. He is Josh Allen in the back. field. >> Yeah, but Josh Allen can throw the ball. Can Tyler throw the ball or. >> high school quarterback? >> He was a high school quarterback. >> That's exactly why we should only be. talking about the Packers and the. Patriots and we can throw the Bears in. there. All these teams are so [ __ ]. bad compared to our teams, it's it's not. even funny. >> Yeah, but what about [ __ ] Tyler.

Warren at quarterback? We're just. learning of this possibility. >> Yeah, but that's true. >> What if you put Danny Jones out there. and but somehow he gets rolled up on and. that compound fracture. >> or that hairline fracture turns into a. compound fracture. sticking out of his leg? I don't want. that. >> We can't have him out there then. >> I don't want that to happen. But if that. was to happen, all of a sudden we got. another. >> Riley Leonard. >> out on the field and he's out where he. might supposed to be. >> Mhm. >> You got to put him out there. >> Then we'd be [ __ ]. >> At least you got the first.

>> If we got Riley Lyn on the field, we're. [ __ ]. >> I'm not saying it's not personal shot to. Riley. >> Putting a rookie quarterback in week 14. It's Dude, you see Did you see our. schedule? >> You see those defense? >> It's the worst. We got the worst. schedule down. >> The Brass just put Shadur in in week 14. They look pretty darn good now. >> Oh, I saw someone tweeting the watch. emoji. Debbutt, huh? What's the. difference? >> It's still up. Did you see the other. rookie quarterbacks that got thrown the. fire this week? I won't name your names.

>> Bro didn't look great. I'll grant you. that. >> That doesn't count. >> Why? We weren't naming names. This guy. got thrown into the fire this late. Yeah, right. He did have some Carson. Wentz in him. >> He did. >> But that's going to happen with rookie. quarterbacks. Every once in a while, you're going to have your moments. and. Riley Leonard getting dropped in there. I think he would be pumped for the. moment. Now, >> would it be much better, especially with. the road that we have, to have somebody. that maybe understands what the defenses. might do and maybe put us into a better. play and maybe set up the whole thing to. be successful? Yeah. But we might not.

have that capability at this stage. >> Guy went to Duke and Notre Dame. He. could read a defense like nobody. Nobody. >> That's right. There's a lot of Duke. quarterbacks out there just [ __ ]. >> That's Tony. That's the same guy Tom. Tony Bromer can [ __ ] spin it. >> He can. It's Max Bromer. >> A lot of people are saying it's KOC's. fault. >> Who's saying that? >> Okay. Can't develop a quarterback. >> Okay. All right. >> Hard not to argue that. >> Let's go. >> Guy had a top 10 quarterback and turned. him into mush.

>> JJ McCarthy has not looked good at. quarterback, but he's been hurt. He. hasn't had time to develop in the. system. Okay. Kevin O'Connell, every. quarterback he's ever had has had. success seemingly. >> Mhm. one coach a year already. >> Every single one. But a. >> lot of playoff wins or. >> what you're doing right now we don't. like. Okay. It sounds like you're being. a little condescending about Kevin. Okonnell's greatness and now this. Vikings team having a little bit of a. good run right now. Sounds like you're a. hater. >> They're having a good run this year. >> Well, the last couple years they're.

they're playing for the number one. overall seed in the NFC last year last. week of the year. >> And the year before that they were under. 500. >> and the year before that good year. >> They lost in the first round of playoffs. to Daniel Jones and the Giants. >> Yeah. But they also came back down 33 nothing. in that. >> Who's the coach of that Giants team. >> all RIGHT IN FRONT OF US. >> LET'S get to a break. We back on the. other side. Penn State still hasn't. hired a coach. Signing day ends December. 5th. >> Mhm. >> Hayes Faucet of on three tells us from.

his bedroom that 99% of the high school. recruits are signing in this particular. signing day. Penn State doesn't have a coach and. they're currently ranked the 150th in. the country in recruiting. >> Hard times in Happy Valley. >> Sorry, AQ. >> Tough. >> You guys might be ass, >> but hockey team's going to be good. >> Women's volleyball team's going to be. very good. >> Wrestling,

>> lacrosse is going to be good. Wrestling's going to win everything. >> It matters. >> All eyes are on wrestling right now. Can't wait. Botch. Can't wait. >> National champions. last 12 years, I think. >> I don't think he has lost a match. >> Yeah. >> What's his name? Mr. uh. >> Kale Sanderson. >> There it is. >> Dog. >> He was undefeated in college, too, right? >> Yeah. >> And then he moves over to coaching and. then now he's the same thing as a coach. >> He's like he's the greatest of all time. >> Yeah. Since Dan Gable pretty much.

>> Speaking of Gable, you see Gable. Stevenson? >> Yeah. >> Mhm. I saw Joe Rogan basically sent a. video of his last fight to Dana White. and said, >> "Do you see what he did to the last. guy?". >> Oh yeah. >> Left hook while going in for a tackle. Knockout. So knockout while tackling guy. to ground. So guy out basically and then. he ends up on top of I mean it was. >> Oh [ __ ]. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> That guy's out. So hook knockout then he. almost overshoots the wall. He's 255.

pounds or something like that. Almost. overshoots it. You remember this was the. dude that just won all the time and then. he lost one time. >> Yeah. >> And uh everybody's, you know, a lot of. people wanted to hate this guy cuz how. much success he had and he did have a. lot of moxy. I got a chance to chat with. him a couple times. He's a dog through. and through. A freak athlete, an. incredible wrestler, which a lot of. college wrestlers obviously go into. mixed martial arts and it appears as if. he does have lightning in his hands. And. uh if he's going to smoothly transition. from hooks to tackles in the same with.

knockout power in that, that's going to. be uh he's going to be he's going to be. a problem in there. I think that's. pretty evident. And Rogan was like, "Hey, need him now. This guy's. >> on TV.". >> Yes, >> for sure. So, speaking of uh he crushed. it, Hayes faucet crushed it today. I. think that's my first time seeing him on. T. Is that his first time on TV? >> I would venture to guess that it is. >> himself. Are we? >> I'm about to. I think he was super. excited about recruiting. Let's get to a. break. We appreciate a be a friend. Tell. a friend something nice that might.

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>> I'm all the way in smoking on some new. green changing up the routine. Gratitude. truly feel like new school. Life's. pretty cool. Three jobs. So this insane. You're the fifth guy. ever to ride this motorcycle. It's a. 1996 Fat Boy. They've been doing it. since 1999. It's called the leader of. the quack. >> You can call me the leader of the quack. right now. Quack. Quack. Quack.

>> Dogs. I currently name Matt. He's a dog. He's wearing a different jacket today. and he told me to wear the one he's. wearing. This is a Grateful Dead one. So, I'm going to wear this one. Leader. of the Quack coming in three, two, movie stars.

Bank accounting. Yeah, you waiting for. Yeah, you waiting for. 2K. Yeah, you waiting for.

yeah. Yeah, I'm up here in your jeans, walking. on some new green, checking out some. new. >> Were you the one that I beat the hell. out of tic-tac-toe and roam? >> I just beat him at tic-tac-toe line and. sinker. You're the worst tic tac toe. player of all time. >> Yeah. Get out.

>> Undefeated. Completely done. You guys came down in the thing. Go, go, go, go. Make me want to put my hands up, take my. heels up. Smoke some cheese. Give me the Oregon Ducks to get a huge. weight today. A little bit softer now. A little bit. softer now. A little bit softer now. A.

little bit softer now. A little bit. softer now. And let me see now. A LITTLE. BIT LOUDER NOW. A LITTLE BIT LOUDER NOW. A LITTLE BIT LOUDER NOW. A LITTLE BIT. >> DON'T LET THAT [ __ ] happen again today. >> Oh yeah, man. Oh my god.

>> Thanks, bro. >> It's electrifying here at Happy Valley. We're lucky to be here. And uh you know. the way you win this is you have uh be. the first 300 people here and you get a. ticket and then we randomly select a. ticket and that person gets an. opportunity to kick a 33 yard field goal. for an undetermined amount of money. This week we had our man William, right?

What's your name? >> William. Yes, sir. >> You won the raffle and you said I don't. want to kick because I suck at kicking. Is that accurate? >> More or less. >> What is your uh major here? >> I'm a finance major. >> Okay. So, money decision was I suck at. this. Let me try to find somebody who's. good at this. How did you land on my man. here? And uh what are your hopes in him? >> Well, I was looking around. I saw my. man. He said he plays soccer and I was. like, this is my guy right here, my guy. Carson. I have faith in him, so I know. he's going to get it done.

>> All right. You're Carson, right? You. played high school soccer. Is that. accurate? >> I did play high school soccer. >> Where are you from? >> I'm from Hannover, Pennsylvania. >> Okay. You're a Pennsylvania guy. Have. you ever kicked a ball before? other. than not football, soccer. >> Okay. Well, hope hopefully you're. terrible at this. It's $100,000. Uh are. you guys splitting that 50/50? >> Yes, sir. >> Okay. Uh so we'll make it uh $300,000. $150,000 for both of you. Okay. >> You only get one kick, though. You've. gained the ticket game, which I.

appreciate and respect. It's up to. $300,000. 150 for both of you. Only one kick. though, Herby. We're not doing anything. I don't care how many stainers chant for. another kick. >> Only one. Herby played high school. soccer. He's a good player. >> We got a problem here. >> That's right. It's a white out. It could. be a special day. YOU COULD HELP OUT. YOUR GUY WILLIAM in winning $150,000. >> One trick, 300,000.

two. You're a good man. >> This finish, congratulations. You pushed that, WILLIAM. WAY TO GO. IT.

HAS BEEN AN EXPENSIVE year out here at. the field goal kick. Carson, I'm proud. of YOU, BUDDY. 300, 150 to you. 150 to. you. Good finance decisions were made in. THE FIRST TOP SIX WHITE OUT HAS A. MAGICAL VIBE AND AN EXPENSIVE ONE. WE. ARE. >> WE ARE. WE ARE. >> Thank you. >> Goodbye. >> Thank you.

I hate that bike. Maybe they should have. turned that around and said thank you to. Pat. >> Is my guy here named. >> Ben G. >> What is your major? >> Psychology. >> Okay. You're a psychology major. That. you're a deep thinker. Is that right? >> Yes, sir. >> Okay. Is that going to help or hurt you. today? You think? >> Maybe hurt a little. >> Okay. Well, I want to let you know. psychology wise, you should know that. there is a radiant energy of positivity. right to your left. Jelly Roll will be. here helping out. So Jelly Roll said, "Pat, I want to try to win hundreds of.

thousands of dollars for a charity in. Athens. I WANT TO KICK A BALL for. $100,000 to give back to this community. that is embracing him as a part of it.". >> And I think I'm fixing to split the. upright. >> Okay. How much weight have you lost now? >> I've lost 250 lbs for this moment, George. I'm fixing to do it. >> All right, Ben. The kick is currently. $100,000 for you. If he makes it, it'll. go up to $250,000. We will also donate $100,000 to a local.

charity, Jelly Roll. >> And I will match that $100,000. So, $200,000 to a local charity, baby. >> Let's go, Jelly Roll. LET'S GO. LET'S. GO, JELLY ROLL. >> OKAY. HERBY WILL ALSO TOSS IN $100,000. to charity, WHICH IS VERY KIND OF HIM. >> YES, SIR. >> $300,000 FOR CHARITY. >> Come on, circle. >> All right. >> I was worried for my time. >> All right. What can I do different, Pat? I think you could try to aim to the. right if I were you. Or if you knew.

somebody that was a very good kicker, I. think now would be a great time to just. go ahead and say, "Hey, why don't you do. that for me?". >> You know what? >> Why don't you raise some money for the. city? >> I'll make another 100,000. We'll make it. 300,000. The local charity, if you'll. let me pick up the LEGENDARY HOT ROD. FROM GEORGIA BACK HERE, BABY. MY BOY HOT. ROD IS IN THE HOUSE TODAY. >> Hot Rod, it's great to see you. You look. fantastic. Thank you for your service to. the Colts. Can't wait to see you back in. the NFL. Okay, so he'll put up how much. you put up?

>> $200,000 for a charity right here in. Georgia after I'll put up 200,000 as. well. Kirk will put up $200,000. We got. a $600,000 donation and Ben's kick WILL. BE WORTH 400,000. THIS COULD BE A. MILLION DOLLAR HERE. HOT ROD. >> 33 YDS. HOT ROD POTENTIALLY A MILLION ON. the line. Let's go.

Let's go. >> Still got it. Still got it. >> Thank you, Rod. >> This is very expensive. Ben Ben. during commercial break. There was no. way we were going to be able to get out. of that lawn out there without giving. him another shot. 100,000 bucks. He. knocks it through. Pump for Ben. Thankful for Hot Rod.

>> Hey, >> let's go. >> This show sticks and the fact that you. listen, we are very, very thankful for. >> McAfee on the line with a gorgeous. assist. >> The alltime leading tackler for the. Green Bay Packers. >> You. stutter. >> Damn it. Be a friend. Tell a friend. something nice could change their life. >> Hello beautiful people and welcome back.

to our humble abode. The Thunderdome. on this watch Wednesday December 3rd. 2025 hour three of the program begins. right now. >> Football is magical and uh we hope. you're having a great Wednesday. We just. had an incredible little snack session. There's a little sausage over there. There's a little uh. >> you know, we got some good mixins and. fixings in the Thunderdome at this exact. moment. And it's uh good conversation. ever. Also, there's a good 20 30 pounds. being added I think to some people.

through this winter over there at that. snacks. The readily available Oreos that. are happening right now, six-packs. >> Yeah. Some people or is there any any. standouts? Every time I go over there, I do see. >> you can say it. We've all seen it. >> But it leads me to do it. It leads me to. do it as well if it makes it. So I don't. want to judge. I don't want to cast a. stone upon. >> You're not. >> in a glass house cuz every time I go. over there, I see it and I go, "Oh, that.

looks like a good idea." We got the. six-pack of Oreos in here. Like 150 of. them just sitting there. Just you slide. that thing out, it's right there. It's. the greatest. And then there's some. obviously some uh fruit gummies. underneath. >> Real fruit. >> Some other options. Of course, >> 100% juice. >> Of course, that's what it says. I read. it. That's what it says on there. It. tastes like it's not the case. And then. on the other side, we have all the chips. you could possibly ask for. It is a. little problematic, especially in this. cold weather where you kind of want a. comfortable eat. And then we got a blimp.

out there that is just kind of going. through all of this. And I uh. Debbone, you're becoming an influence on. me. And I don't know if it's a good. thing or a bad thing. Big pop out of. somebody over there. >> I think they made it. >> That's good. Uh. >> that wasn't his life. >> It's a good time to be in a Thunderdome. And we are thankful to do this show. The. talks tables here at Buzz Connor and. that's Tai Schmidt. 9-year NFL vet. Darius J. Butler is here. 12-year NFL. vet, Super Bowl champion, AQ Shipley is. here. And live from Hammer D is Tone. Digs. Tone. Uh we didn't like what you.

were trying to do last hour. You told us. during the break that you're basically. trying to manipulate some things with. the platform that you have. And uh I. certainly don't appreciate that, but I. respect the nod. And uh. >> I hope the Vikings uh front office is. listening and the Steelers front office, let's take advantage of it. >> And what do you think the Vikings front. office should know if they were. listening right now? >> KC's he just he can't get it done. They. can get it done in Pittsburgh though. >> Okay. >> And by the way, that was Mitt. Big pop. >> Big pop out of Mitt. Okay. In the same.

room over there with Tone. Tone is. trying to talk KOC out of Minnesota so. that he can hire him in Pittsburgh. Pittsburgh still has a head coach. Okay. Yeah. >> Has been a head coach for a long time. there. And. >> now he's going to Penn State. >> Well, that's what Ben Rothosberger said, but a lot of people I hear said, "Why. why the [ __ ] would Mike go to P?". >> A lot of people on there that don't know. that seven is our god. So, we listen to. him. >> That's Ben Rothosberger who he's. referring to. And Ben Rothosberger still. lives in the area. Ben Rothosberger. obviously still very dialed in. Foot. balling with Ben and Spank is obviously.

an absolute heater of a show. We. appreciate it. We respect it. He did. throw some things out about maybe a. reset in Pittsburgh. Nobody that has. actually been in the building at that. particular level, coaching level or. anything. Says if Mike Tomlin wants to. be there, Mike Tomlin will be there. He's kind of earned that. I think a lot. of people feel that that should be how. it is. And then, you know, maybe he does. move on and then maybe he does go to. Penn State who doesn't have a coach. So, AQ, it feels like Penn State's at a big. L right now, but they can turn it all. around with one hire and one signing and. one win next year. But let's talk about. teams that turn it around through their.

offensive line. Let's go in the trenches. with AQ Shipley for the top five. performing offensive lines coming out of. week 13 of the NFL season. NUMBER FIVE, THE DALLAS COWBOYS. >> Crazy to hear week 13. It is crazy how. fast this season is flying, but Dallas. is trending up and to the right. This is. old school counter. You got two tight. ends. Let's take a look. 40 ends up. being the F. And then the tight end. comes across to fill in on the. linebacker. And then if we can run that. back one more time, check this out.

Check the left guard, Tyler Smith, one. of the strongest. There's a butt. Check. out the center. There's another butt. Find left guard and center and go find. the back of the end zone and just run. your ass off. >> We talked about the Big D having the big. three, you know, in Dak CD and GP, but. didn't really get a chance to dive into. their offensive line being good again, and you were shaking your head. What. were you shaking your head? >> Uh, you know, I'm always looking at the. defense and one of the best defenders in. the game, probably has ever played the. game, Chris Jones, just jumping out of a. gap. This is kind of what you live with.

with great players. Sometimes they dance. around blocks, jump out of gaps, and. then somebody behind them has to kind of. adjust and they didn't. But that's. tough, especially right down the middle. of the defense. And I believe I saw him. miked up, go up to the other guys on the. defense, say, "That's that's on me, boys. That's my bad." But, uh, can't. have it in this situation. 14-10 game. right here. >> Dallas Cowboys offensive line, top five. in the NFL, says AQ Shipley. Let's go to. the number four performing offensive. line in week 13, the New England. Patriots. Number one team in the league. The New England Patriots are showing up.

every single week. They're missing the. left side of their offensive line. Ben. Brown, I believe is his name, at left. guard. Number 77 and number 59, Vidarian. Low, who has spent some time at the. shipyard. >> Wow. So, there is definitely some bias in. this, but they are the number one team. They are the number one. >> No, no, no. When you step up, I mean, I. you could argue that BA could have given. a game ball to the left side of this. offensive line. >> Two young guys who step in for two other. young guys and look at that blocking. How I mean how easy is that whenever. Trevon Henderson gets to see that hole.

kick out torque find the other young guy. in Brown and go follow it for an 11 yard. run. I mean it's incredible. >> That's a special thing to happen on a. prime time game for a very very. important part of your offense. The. entire left side of the offensive line. having to fill in and show up. Good for. them. Good for you guys. >> Yeah. It just gives you a bunch of faith. too just because the Giants say what you. want about their team as a whole. They. have one of the better defensive lines. in the entire NFL. And then when you. think about longevity going into the. playoffs, the one position, the one. group that gets hurt that might cause. you some concern would be that offensive.

line. We're going through it right now. and the backups are stepping up. It. really does kind of reaffirm your faith. in the team. >> How many do you have to have offensive. lineman? >> So you dress eight typically. You. typically have your five and then you. know you have a backup center, you have. a backup guard tackle, and you have a. backup swing tackle. So you got your. eight that you would normally have and. they're basically playing number six and. seven right now, right? >> Yeah, six and seven. and our backup. center is kind of our starting rookie. left guard Jared Wilson who's out right. now. He played center at Georgia for. most of his career playing guard right. now for New England. So, it's very.

incredible just to think about the. Patriots. That's why don't even be a fan. of your own team. Just come on over to. the dark side, start rooting for the. Patriots cuz there's no real point to. root for anybody else aside from New. England and the next team on In the. Trenches. >> Yeah, but you you're saying that because. you're also thinking that maybe this. Patriots seems likable to. >> there. Well, they're likable. >> because Braves is funny. >> Yeah, he's funny. >> Braves is funny and he's had success and. he's from Ohio. So, like I think. everybody just kind of likes Braves just.

all Drake May. This guy, >> he's so damn likable. >> I I don't think there's anything about. him that's the way he talks is so. humble. He's so casual on the field and. he has the moxy to be a leading man. And. then obviously going through the. decision-m process that they went. through to fire a coach after one year. and move along and say, "Nah, this isn't. right." And then bringing in a big name. doing some big time signings, keeping it. moving, and then being where you're at. It does feel like it's a likable team. somehow. That's crazy because it's the. Patriots. >> Yeah. But that won't last long. Nobody's.

going to like us uh after we win the. Super Bowl this year. It's going to be. kind of like, wow. >> Yeah. Cuz it wasn't supposed to happen. this year. >> Yeah. And it's going to be like, wow, we. wished away the Chiefs. Like, we wanted. some other team. And then, oh no, what. do we we wished away the team and then. we got back the other team we hate even. more than that team. So, it's it's. really a conundrum for everybody. That's. why it is kind of a hey, ditch your. team. Your team [ __ ] sucks compared. to New England. Just come on over and be. a Patriots fan. >> Doesn't hurt having [ __ ] Chznney in. the owners box every week either. >> Chzn, Cardi B. I mean, [ __ ] Who's next?

T T T T T T T T T T T T T T T T T T T T. T Swift might start dating Will. Campbell. I don't know. >> I do know. Okay, T. Swift is with Travis. Kelce, but then you start thinking about. what the Chiefs future looks like. You. know, what does the future of the Chiefs. look like? I will say this about Travis. Kelce, who we are big fans of. Uh, New. Heights number one sports podcast of the. year. >> That's right. >> Congratulations. Happy for them. They've. been a good show since the beginning. Obviously, very clearly going to be a. good show since day one. Pardon my Tank, I think, is still number two. And you're.

talking about they've been doing it for. like forever. OGs of the game at the top. of it all. Shout out to them. Uh, still. doing it. Big Cat, PFT, Hank, the entire. crew. What a wagon and has been for so. long. It's a grind, you know. That's uh. the podcast world is just uh you know. never ending. You have to just continue. to create and there's a a lot of. podcasts and sports podcasts and a lot. of people deciding to get on microphones. and it's like to be able to do it for as. long as they do is just the brilliance. of their minds obviously and James.

Madison supporters are obviously. >> sure. >> watching very closely to what's going on. over there. The new heights podcast and. Travis like you can have brothers just. talk you can have people that play. sports just talk. Like there's a lot of. that. They're special both because. they're potentially goats at their. positions, both of them. Good arguments. for both of them. And then they got they. got the [ __ ] Jason Kelsey's got the. [ __ ] He will do it. I mean, he will do. it. >> Mhm.

>> He will sing queen. >> Oh yeah, you bet. >> He will chug a beer. >> What? >> He will shoot a gun. >> He does not take himself seriously at. all. And Travis Kelce, for how famous he. is, he is still a human somehow as well. who is obviously electrifying. That's a. cool duo, those two. Now, for the. future, what does it look like for the. Chiefs? If there is a future beyond, you. know, the Travis era and what they are, if this is the end of this particular. era.

of this Chiefs dynasty, what does the. future look like? Especially with a. young New England Patriots over there, most money in the NFL. Yeah, there's a. few players that you can just kind of. list right off the top of your head that. you know are coming to New England next. year. >> AJ Brown, >> that's one. >> You think AJ Brown's coming up to New. England? >> Oh, I don't even think it's a question. I I think the Eagles will probably lose. in the first round. It'll be a Okay, we. got to get rid of some of the [ __ ]. that's going on. Hard to argue that AJ. Brown hasn't been somewhat of a.

distraction, you you could say. Um, and. who's the guy that he still talks to. damn near every week? Who drafted him? >> Who got up and walked off whenever he. was traded on draft night? >> Yeah. Who who. >> do you remember that scene? >> Yeah. >> Frael reading the timeline or reading. the. the whole scene in the background in a. suit and then coming back to the table, sitting back down. And people say it was.

at that moment where Varel was like, "This is not where I need to be." It. would still go on to win. And then he. would get promptly fired after going. into the New England Patriots Hall of. Fame and giving a speech about how great. this place is in comparison to other. spots. And then now the New England. Patriots are the number one team in the. NFL and the Tennessee Titans. Have no. idea what to do with football. >> And who's AJ Brown's childhood football. team? >> Oh yeah, he grew up a New England. Patriots fan. So I mean, add AJ Brown to. this offense. See what the [ __ ] happens. next year. Okay. I just hope Matt. Stafford wins the MVP this year because.

if he doesn't, we're looking at three. straight for Drake May. >> Three. >> And that worries me. >> Wow. >> Why is it where you just how people are. going to talk about you guys? >> No. No. How I am going to talk to. everybody else. >> That's why. >> Yeah, cuz I didn't really get good at. this [ __ ] while the Patriots were good. >> You're too young. >> Yeah, I was too young. And we were. really bad the past couple years. And. I'm kind of good at this. And if the. Patriots get good again, it's I I won't. you guys will [ __ ] hate me even more. No, it'll be a problem.

>> If you have a reason to talk [ __ ]. that's what we I've always said that. about the Patriots fans. Like they are a. good shit-talking fan base and if they. have a reason to do it, that's just like. >> a catastrophe for everybody else. Exactly. And that's what it was like. playing in Foxboro whenever they're. during the run. It was an actual home. field advance. Well, why was it? Well, the weather obviously was controlled by. the Patriots. Somehow it sucked. It was. always going to suck somehow. And it was. always going to be wind in your face. I. don't know how that always happens. But. then also their fans are good. Like the. fans know what they're doing. And also.

the little side combos that happen from. fans and players. All of them have a. good bite. All of them. Every sing. eight-year-olds are shit-talking. Uh 90. year olds are shit-talking. That's like. true football town, a shit-talking fan. base. And they had a lot of reason to. talk [ __ ] for a long time. And it does. appear as if they are back. You know, it. does feel like that. And we all live in. that reality. And hey, it's not their. fault. >> No, >> but how did everybody else let it. happen? >> It's not everybody.

>> Ladies and gentlemen, who's number three. performing offensive line coming out of. week 13 of the NFL season? AQ. >> Green Bay Packers [ __ ] time. HERE WE. GO. >> GO PACK. GO. PACK. GO. PACK. GO TO NUMBER THREE. WOW. Good for. them. >> Yeah, they took the fight to Detroit. It. was good to see. It was good to see them. fight. They got some injuries as well. They're missing Jenkins, their center. They move Ryan into center. They got a. new right guard. They pick up Wy off. Minnesota's practice squad playing tight.

end number 81. We're just going to run a. simple zone play. But watch the defense. moves. This what I was talking about. earlier. So Aaron Banks can continue to. run. Then that linebacker makes a play. Nope. Turn into a double team with. Walker climb. All you got to do is make. one person miss. And there goes Jacobs. >> Wow. So beautifully orchestrated. This. guy's coming off a practice squad. He. knows all this stuff. That is actually a. fake report. That is a false report. He. has been on the Packers practice squad, but he just got activated November 5th, so he's only been up for a few games. >> Okay. So, he's been in the building. He. understands what he's doing. Hasn't been. getting the reps though to be able to be.

doing this type of [ __ ] cuz this all. has to be planned and calculated right. cuz if not, you step on each other's. feet to begin. >> Absolutely. And the other thing that's. huge, too. Yeah. Well, first of all, with 81, what you're saying? Yes, exactly. You have to be able to read. that out. But if you go back one more. time, 63 Walker, when you have the man. outside, he's leaving that guy for 81. But watch him. He recognizes they just. moved the defense inside, slows it down, pulls the defensive end across, and now. he has to adjust to that, and then gets. up on the linebacker. >> Good tackle by Jack Campbell, 25 yards. down the field. >> That adds to his list.

>> Yeah, he's chasing the guy. What? That's. a ballhawk effort. >> I agree. I love him. Great last name. >> What's going on here, Fox? >> I don't know if Jack Campbell's the one. we have to go after, but you know, that's okay. Well, I don't just in. general the Detroit Lions now are on the. wrong side of these segments on our. show. This hasn't been how it's been at. all. >> This was a weird game. I saw a stat that. like rush yards were pretty much the. same between the Packers Lions. Pass. yards were pretty much the same. Time. and possession was pretty much the same. The only difference we were 0 for two on.

fourth down and I believe you guys were. three for three on fourth down. So, it's. just like correct. >> It's it's that close. We are that close. >> and zero sacks allowed by this unit. Big. one. >> Sacks allowed on the other unit. >> against Aiden and him. >> Yeah. Was Hutch just thinking like what. am I gonna say on game day tomorrow? >> Allegedly. Yes. >> No, that is not alleged by anybody other. than some people on the internet that. were pissed immediately upon hearing it. ain't Hutch. It was going to be Guest. Baker after just losing the game on TV.

We all just watched it with our. families. Speaking of watched it, >> Chiefs boys, the what was the number? What was the. >> Oh, uh, yeah. Cowboys Chiefs hit 57. million viewers on Thanksgiving. >> Yeah, the new record. It's a new They. They thought it was coming. They They. thought 50 million plus was coming. Turns out. >> 57.2. million viewers, making it the most. watched regular season game in NFL. history. Um the previous record was 42.1. million. So the record was shattered by. whopping 15 million. If you want to talk.

about access to games being a big deal, obviously being able to see it is a. massive piece of it. But then also the. game just being in such a healthy spot. You know, for a long time the game was. being uh I don't want to say attacked. because it sounds like a victim. mentality, but I think there was a. little bit of a negative onslaught of. [ __ ] towards football that was certainly. happening and scaring people away from. either playing the game as kids or. having your kids play the game and maybe. even watch the game because of how yada. yada it is. And then obviously there was.

a lot of political stuff that was. potentially happening. And then the way. the game was changing with the rules was. pissing people off. And then there was a. uniform police time that everybody was. kind of getting met. There was just like. a lot of things that the NFL was kind of. battling both self-inflicted and things. that were just going to happen. inevitably anyways because of the growth. of a league and things happening like. that. So I think that all kind of has. settled down and now people are just. kind of appreciating the opportunity to. maybe cheer for their team and watch. great football. And I I think football's. in such a healthy place and I think it's. very good for society whenever the.

sports are in a good place because I. think sports are really the only thing. we have left that really unifies people. You know within a city there's obviously. people that see things differently but. uh whenever a football team is great in. that city the city normally sees the. same thing and that is we would like to. this team to go ahead and win it all for. the good of all of us. So, I think it's. special whenever these types of numbers. come out that this many people are. watching our game and uh I think it's a. great thing obviously for our sport and. for society whenever more people are in. on ball as opposed to less people in on. ball. >> Yeah. I don't know if there are very.

many other things. I mean, people would. probably say there are, but like that. people's lives revolve around the NFL. season and college football when that's. on. Like you you everything that you're. doing, you go to work, your family, all. that [ __ ] It's all just to get to. Sunday to watch your favorite team play. and then on top of that they've done. such a good job just to like massive. holidays like there is going to be a. game on and that's that is what you are. doing with your family if you're like a. sports family and now it's getting to. the point where even if you're not it's.

like oh yeah you know the Cowboys and. the Chiefs are playing like let's put. that on. >> Go ball go. >> ball go. >> We're gonna dance Christmas too. >> Yeah, exactly. Roger Gadell already did. that to the NBA and we've tried to tell. the NBA the highest level Mr. Silver. Hey, you need to move Christmas Eve. Christmas has always been our day. I. understand in theory. I used to watch. too. I loved it. I loved the Christmas. showcase. It was a cool thing. You know,

NFL had Thanksgiving. The NBA had. Christmas. It was cool. Holiday sports. kind of doing their thing, showing up. Then the NFL said, "We want Christmas.". and uh they just did it and they got it. now and I I don't love that for the NBA. obviously because that has been a. storied showcase thing for just move to. Christmas Eve. No problem. The issue. though is just like what happened with. Red Zone. If the NBA goes Christmas Eve. and has success, the NFL is going to. say, "Whoa, whoa, whoa. Maybe we put a. couple games. >> We'll take that, too.". >> Just like they did with Red Zone. Did.

you see what they did with Red Zone. channel? >> Yeah. There was like 400 commercials on. Sunday. I was part of the problem. because when I was told that there was. going to be a couple commercials, 30. second commercials, I think I was told. 90 seconds maybe of commercials at the. time. >> Uh, and I said, "We don't care." Meaning. that we will still watch, which I think. every red zone watcher still watched. I. think I think it is still something. because of how good it is. They're. saying now they've opted all. They're. just doing it. You give them an inch, obviously, they're going to take a mile. That's why I'm an idiot for not.

understanding that in the moment. whenever I said we do not care to Scott. Hansen because I'm still gonna watch it. and I want to let them know it does feel. like they're taking advantage of us. right now, doesn't it? >> Yeah. >> Don't be doing it. >> Fat cats. >> Don't do it. Red zone's awesome. >> If they get up to 45 commercials, I'm. out. >> 46. >> Definitely. >> I draw a line there. >> But where they at right now? Do we know. how many commercials they're doing right. I think they said there was like 16 on. Sunday or something like that.

>> Okay, so they got some time, but yeah, they better slow. >> Does feel like we're the Red Zone, this. from Sports Business Journal, the NFL. Red Zone channel ran 16 sponsored. elements. Okay, so that's L wraps Sunday. slate of games. According to an SBJ. analysis of the broadcast, the telecast. ran eight 15-second double box. advertisement, two minutes total over. seven hours, evenly split across the. early and late windows. Once play. wrapped up, Red Zone also ran a 30. secondond doublebox ad with DraftKings. that closed the broadcast. Uh, DraftKings ran a commercial maybe last.

week, earlier in the day, not just at. the end that I thought was a really good. idea. Like whenever they announced the. playthrough model that they were going. to do with the ads, I immediately. thought of a sports booking in there. being like, "Hey, second half of these. games about to take place. There is this. available, this available, this. available. This is currently available.". I immediately thought like that would be. the right move. And then it's not really. a commercial. It's kind of just like. added information about gambling. I did. see that they started doing that. I. thought that was smart. The LRAPS they.

started last year before they were. saying seven hours while they were still. saying seven hours of commercial free. football. They were running LR wraps. which I guess what do you describe as a. commercial? I think it's why they. probably technically had to get away. from that to seven hours of red zone. football or commercial free football and. then they do the entire thing. But. you're right D. But if they up this. thing, >> I swear. >> they're at 2 minutes right now. >> Mhm. >> If they even think about getting that. thing to an hour or two hours is 7 hour. window, I'm [ __ ] out, dude. What I'm.

saying is you don't have to watch Red. Zone Channel. If you want to be pissed. off at him, you can. I'm going to watch. it. It is so [ __ ] good. It's really. for our particular professions. >> The best. >> We have to. >> Top right box every time. >> Sound. >> Okay. >> Yep. >> Sound on that one. All the other games. are floating through the other three in. the quad box. [ __ ] a. >> [ __ ] a. Think about people that did. these jobs before that [ __ ]. >> I don't know how you did it. Honestly,

how did those people do it? >> Well, now you see why they just talked. about the Cowboys every every [ __ ]. segment every week. >> Like actually, I think. >> there's no way you could have watched. like after that one:00 slate like and. you have the red zone as well. like you. feel like, okay, at least I kind of kept. up with the theme of games, the big. plays, the scoring plays, you know, somebody gets injured, you know, big. time replays or controversies. Like, you. kind of keep up with all of it. >> Like just watching one maybe two games.

or a couple TVs. Like I I don't know how. people did it. >> Yeah. You literally could only talk. about what's on national TV, I guess, at. one point. and then asking for film from. people, but then you're just listening. to the words of the people that are. local reporters, which is why local beat. reporters had such an important job for. so long. It's because they were. literally the only ones probably telling. people what it was like for you, you. know, telephone game there. So crazy. times, but we would like say the Reds. NFL don't ruin [ __ ] Red Zone. >> Not do it. >> People are scared you guys are going to. ruin it. >> And every new report we get sounds like.

you're trying to ruin it. Don't ruin it. It's great. Maybe the greatest. invention. >> I mean, the first downline. >> Really good. That's a great invention. TV invention. >> Skycam was sick. XFL created that. >> Replays. >> Replay system. Incredible. Super slow. motion. Incredible. But when it comes to. TV technology and like entertainment. technology, the Red Zone channel might. be I mean, it's March Madness every. Sunday. >> Mhm.

>> [ __ ] brilliant. Don't ruin it. get to. the number two performing offensive line. coming out of week 13 of the NFL season, the Buffalo Bills. What a huge dominant. win they had. >> Yeah, they were incredible. And the. first three teams in this top five had a. great week. Very good week. >> These next two, there's levels to this. [ __ ]. >> Really, >> Buffalo was insane. They had two backup. tackles in the game. They had Vandermark. in at left tackle. They had Ryan or Alec. Anderson in at right tackle. And then. you take a look at Dawson Knox right.

here. I love this move right here. If. you watch him on the end, 88. Run this. back one more time. Watch his outside. arm. Watch this little swipe. It's a. little vet move. Pull him up the field. and then that creates the. >> big GAPING HOLE. >> AND THEN James Cook does what he does. But the boys, this was what they did all. game long. This one's your inside zone. Hit the backside cut and there it is. They couldn't get off a block to save. their lives. The Pittsburgh Steelers. defense in the. >> Was there business decisions being made. or just bad play being made? I think it.

was really good offensive line play. I. think that's what it was. I think you. you start to see TJ Watt right there. He's he knows the play's coming. He's. starting to take the inside gap which. forces it to the outside. But guess. what? When you try and force it to the. outside, your buddies debut, somebody's. got to come make a play, right? >> Yeah, man. I mean, you talk about. business decision. If you watch run that. back, you watch watch the safety 29. >> What's What's five doing? >> Five's got to go. I especially with that. guy on the outside of him, you got to. take your shot. The thing about playing. defense, you got to take shots. Like,

you can't wait for blocks. Like, you. talk about the running back setting you. up, but I mean, the second and third. level right there, that's just that's. horshit horseshit effort. I'm sure. they're having the same conversations in. the meeting, I assume. So, >> does Jaylen Ramsay have to engage with. Keon Coleman or could he maybe fly in. and just try and make the tackle. instead? >> Uh, no. So, James Cook kind of slowed. down and kind of ran at him. And I know. we can see it easily, but I don't know. if Jaylen knows that that corner is out. there, but he kind of ain't, we talked. about James Cook being one of the best. running backs when it comes to that. So,

he's kind of setting them up and then he. gets uh get straight get back up field. But yeah, so and then Keon Cole, you. don't want a guy to just, you know, blindside you, do a dirty shot like uh. Juan Jennings or anything. So, um you. got to got to protect yourself out. there. >> Hey, they're saying some stuff about. Juwan Jennings. >> Yeah, he got some things on TV that you. don't hear often. I love what he's doing. though. >> He's. >> I bet you do. >> He's That kind of confirms everything. that was said then. >> Yeah, >> I love what he's doing. He's beating the. [ __ ] out of everybody every week. He's. getting somebody to fall into something. and do something. Create a He is He.

plays the game the way I like to see it. He likes to play the game through the. whistle. Not to the whistle. Through the. whistle. And then even like a little. extra like be that nat, be that prick. after the [ __ ] You don't see that from. receivers. >> Yeah. >> And I love to see that from. >> Yeah. You don't need that from everybody. on your team, obviously, is what you're. saying. >> No, you need it from some guys, though. You need a couple guys. >> You need a couple guys. >> So, this is why you won't be a head. coach at Penn State or something like. that. But, you certainly need I think. that sets a tone for your team is what.

you're saying. And you just expect him. to get punched in the bowls and maybe. the jaw, if you will, at some point. during the season. And he understands. that that's his style of play as well. >> Absolutely. That's the way I tried to. play. I tried to always like just give a. little extra just to let everybody like. know, hey, I'm [ __ ] here. I'm here. and I'm going to be here. And if you. take it even a step further, you guys. remember Ryan Jensen, one of my. favorites. I mean, that dude, he was. trying to put you into the bench two. seconds after the play. He was flirting. with what was legal legal and illegal. every single play. I love that. >> He had the first ever uh what was that.

call that got put into the game that we. weren't happy about? It was the first. one that ever got called. It was opening. night Bucks versus Cowboys. It was at. the old office. [ __ ] I can't remember. it. It it was like it wasn't unnecessary. roughness or taunting or anything like. that, but he got like the first ever. whatever prick flag they basically put. into the game. >> instigating or something. >> Something like that. I forget. It only. lasted like a year or two, but Jensen. was the definition. >> And he always had the visor and his hair. was hanging out the bag and it was like, "Oh, this guy's going to get a late. shot." So, boom, there he is coming in.

He was submarining, I think, in the. piles. You love that. >> Love it. See, that's the you see that. debuts on the other side there. I'm the. one getting submarine. >> Yeah. I mean, I don't mind it from O. lineman. Like you said, receivers, you. don't expect it from you don't really. see it from. So, when you get that and. it's it's not that you have an agreement. like the play's coming at you, you're. getting blocked, you're getting crack. blocked, but you're 30 yards from the. play and you're hit me in the back or. you're cut blocking me when it's not. like that, that's some [ __ ] And. then you go and hide behind your O line. >> Yeah. Now, see, that's the issue. That's.

the issue. If Jawan Jennings is now. talking [ __ ] to the nose guard, I'm. like, "Shut the [ __ ] up." All right. Shut the [ __ ] up. All right. cuz I don't. want to deal with that. >> That's talking [ __ ] about him. >> Yeah, I I saw I saw Shelby Harris. He's. a dog, too. >> Yeah, absolutely. >> Yeah, he's a dog. >> I once got Orion Dean, great teammate, incredible offensive lineman. Was with. the Colts for a long, long time. And uh. I was talking [ __ ] to a D lineman. We. changed quarters, so the field goal is. on one side and then the end of the. quarter goes to the other side. So,

we're walking length of field with team. basically. Yep. >> And another team D lineman started. saying something to me. I forget what it. was. Like something and I was just like, "Oh, I never get this opportunity.". Punter, never do I get a chance to be on. the field. I'm actually pretty good [ __ ]. talker since I've become a kicker. Not. really allowed to [ __ ] talk. This is. good time right now. So guy says. something to me, I engage. I say. something back. I end with a pretty. heavy pretty heavy shot. Definitely. should not have done that. Guy could. have killed me or whatever. He did get. actually kind of upset or whatever. starts talking [ __ ] to me through the.

offensive line while I'm doing the. holding. Okay. So, this guy's telling me. he's going to beat my ass. Guy has to. block him. Okay. Just got done with a. long drive. >> Yep. >> Turns around afterwards. There's a. little bit of a give and take. I'm. walking out of here. Okay. I'm not going. to do anything, but I'm definitely not. going to look like a little soft ass in. this entire situation, but certainly. don't want to die. So, that walking off, I get a conversation. Hey, you don't. have to touch that [ __ ] guy. Okay? So, do that after the play or don't do. that ever again because I have to deal. with that and my life's already bad. enough.

>> You got it, buddy. That's 100% on me. Joan Jennings, though, >> he's willing to fight, I think. Right. >> Absolutely. He really is. He He'll fight. anybody. I mean, you can see it every. single week. He He mixes it up. He's. >> good player, too. >> He is a great player. >> Are they going to win. >> the NerS? >> Yeah. >> When? What do you mean? Like the Super. Bowl? >> Yeah. >> Why are you making us do this? Because I. want to know if a team can do it. Fred. Warner and Bosa out. If they were able. to do it without them, that would be an. absurd feat, right? But every once in a. while, we see a solid defense and we.

think to ourselves, wait, I couldn't. imagine if they had Warner. I couldn't. imagine if they have Bosa, but it feels. like they have enough to do it. Brock. Party doing his thing. Jawan Jennings, a. wide receiver, is fighting people. George KD is a psycho. >> CMC is doing something that's. unprecedented. I mean, literally, he's. he's going to have a thousand thousand. and he leads the league in touches and. he's as good of a receiver as he is a. running back. >> We don't talk about the Niners though. really whenever we talk about Super Bowl. strictly because of the injuries, but. it's like I think they have everything. that they would want. I I think the. Niners have everything other than Warner. and Boser, but I think they think that.

they're in a really like a spot that can. go. >> Yeah. McCaffrey will be the first ever. thousand,000 uh rusher receiver with. multiple seasons. This will be his. second. and I think it was Marshall. Faulk and one other and then I believe. he just crossed the threshold already. for 800 800. He has 800 receiving yards, 800 plus rushing yards. Uh Chev did a. massive tweet about it. Uh oh, yep. Boom. There it is. Uh and there's a few. other things in there as well. But yeah, he he's a freaking nature. But the. injuries you guys talk about all the. time. You got to get lucky sometimes. with the injuries. >> with who gets hurt. >> And we'll see because they they have the.

Titans this week, but then at Colts. Bears Seahawks. So that's I mean that's. a pretty tough test, you know, going. into the playoffs. That's right. That's. right. That's right. >> Cuz everybody's talking about the Colts. tough test. >> Let's remember they got those teams got. to play Colts. >> Yeah. So, if they win the next two, they. got 11 wins. I mean, they beat the. Titans maybe. And they beat the Colts in. Indie maybe. >> Prime time. >> Prime time. Yeah. So, >> in a lot of. >> by then Daniel Jones's uh leg, I guess, will be healed. >> Yeah. >> 100%.

>> That's such a bummer that that happened. >> Sucks. What is the We'll ask Wes. Who's. the number one performing offensive line. coming out of week 13 of THE NFL SEASON? WOW, THE Chicago Bears. Congrats, Zittoars. This is by far the most. consistent unit of an offensive line in. the NFL right now. And it starts with. number 58, Darnell. Wright. Now look, you send the guy in motion. Now watch. See how he's lined up outside of him. right there? He's a five technique. Now. watch. Here we go. Here comes the. motion. He just got head up. So now what. that creates is a man on, man outside.

So he has to slow it down. And just that. little bit. >> sound like a hold. >> No, no hold. That's That's phenomenal. with his right hand. Watch how good this. is with the right hand. Torquin with a. strong outside arm. Pull him across. Dig. Doesn't ever turn. Stays square. That creates the hole. Obviously, the. motion with DJ Moore. Everything else. opens up that hole. That's incredible. >> That seemed like he was holding there at. the end. >> You see a flag on the. >> Was that? >> You could call it every [ __ ] play. There's no holding there. >> This is great technique. You're saying. unbelievable strength. Most there's if.

that's a young offensive tackle right. there, a rookie offensive tackle, he is. telling himself, hey, I just got to get. down to this B gap. He doesn't recognize. that the DB is up outside, man on, mount, man on, man on, man outside. They. call that Momo look. So right there, you. have to slow it down, pull the guy. across. >> Unbelievable work. And Ben Johnson. obviously has an offense that sets up. the guys to be in good positions to. block these people. >> It's over and over again. I mean, it's. just those holes because it's the. motion. It's the deception. It's get.

this guy. It's rock and roll. The. safety, the guy you think's going to be. in the hole. Now, all of a sudden, he's. back and you just opened up the hole. >> Congrats to East 5. >> Hell yeah. Packers make an appearance. It's late in the season. It's good time. to show up here. >> That is a good time to show up. >> This is right here who I believe will. have a chance to win the Super Bowl. Okay. If you're on the top five. performing offensive lines late in the. season in the trenches, I guess we have. to do a bunch of indicators about your. defense being championship defense, yada. yada yada. If your team's not on this. over the next couple weeks, you don't.

have a chance to win a Super Bowl. That's what you need to do. Cuz in a. conference championship game or in Super. Bowl, inevitably you're going to run. into a Dline that could just take over. the entire game. So, if your O line is. not a top elite offensive line, you're. going to lose eventually. And that's. kind of uh that's kind of football, baby. That's what in the trenches has. been. So, congrats to these five teams. Now, ladies and gentlemen, let's learn. about those defenses that are. championship defenses. Let's also learn. about those defenses who might be ass. Ladies and gentlemen, it's time for. everything DB, good D, bad D with Darius.

Butler. >> Stay with the Bears. Ben Johnson is. obviously doing a phenomenal job with. the offensive side of the ball. Dennis. Allen is doing a great job with the. defensive side of the ball. took a. chance with Kevin Byer, brought him over. and he has been a godsend leading the. National Football League in. interceptions. This just single high. safety, post safety, keeping an eye on. the quarterback. Herz, breaks the. pocket, turns it into a scramble drill, throws the ball in the air. Wind was. impacting the ball a lot for both. quarterbacks. But this is a great play.

finishing the play, diving to secure his. six interception to lead the National. Football League. This team, this. defense, week in and week out from the. beginning of the season, they've been. dynamic when it comes to turning the. ball over. We got By, we got Wright, and. also Edmmonds who's who have missed some. time. They're all in the top five. We. talked about them yesterday as far as. league leaders when it comes to turning. the ball over. When you have that. combined with an offense that runs the. ball well and also takes care of the. ball, it's a scary situation to uh face, especially as the season goes on. >> You run the ball, you can uh run the.

clock obviously, and then if you get. turnovers, you take time away from the. other team even more. Time of. possession, I would assume for the Bears. is pretty absurd this season. And uh. them having three of the top six turn or. pickers in the league is crazy. 26. turnovers I believe, right? Is that the. number? >> Yep. >> It's a lot. >> That's Yeah, >> so many. >> That's going to help. And we talked. about it earlier with the HBO stats. about, you know, Caleb Williams. And. I've been saying it kind of as a he's. not where he needs to be as far as the. passing game goes. I think he will be. there. And once again, if you're having.

this success, you're the top of the NFC. without your quarterback playing where. we think he will be playing. Uh you you. got to feel good if you are a Bears fan. >> Shout out to the Bears. Shout out to Ben. Johnson. That's good culture. All right, who's next on Good D World? >> The Carolina Panthers. Coach Ba said. yesterday this was the biggest kind of. statement win for a team. And this team. has kind of been up and down uh. throughout the season, but this is a big. time win against who we crowned as the. best team in the National Football. League coming into this game. You watch. Mike Jackson down here in the bottom of.

the field. Now, the way he plays this, you would think, pause it here. You. would think this was a split safety. coverage with how he's just squatting on. this route from Puka Nool. Now, Puka. Nool, great route runner, great hands, great blocker. You wouldn't necessarily. fear his uh speed when it comes to like, hey, this guy's just going to run by me. He's not Jameson Williams. He not just a. speedster. He's going to be more of a. craftsman when it comes to route. Sitting on the route, understands it, makes the play, and then takes his back. to the crib. We've seen JC Horn on here. a couple times. We talked about Morg. being suspended because of his nut punch.

last week. So you talk about guys. stepping up, making big time plays. against the best offense in the league. up until this point getting this not. only picking it off but taking it to the. cribs was a huge play. >> So he was just sitting at the sticks, right? He knew they knew what they were. doing. >> Yeah. I mean this is sec second and 10. He was definitely sitting at the sticks. He understood the route. I think McVy. came out after the game and kind of you. know tried to just have his quarterbacks. back like hey I could have gave Matt a. better play there. But you're I mean at. this point in the season, you are who. you are on offense and in defense. It. just comes down to execution. And this.

was great execution. Not only from him, too. If you look at the blocking, we. always talk about you see the old man. Matt Stafford giving effort all the way. to the goal line. Blocking, great. coverage on the inside as well. That. tight end was covered up, but I love. when guys picking the ball off and then. getting it back to the crib. >> They knew that route combination there. Oh yeah, certainly. Right. Yep. All all. parties down there knew exactly what was. coming. Probably as soon as the motion. happened, they knew or what? >> Just all just a feel. Uh maybe he saw. something when it comes to Puka's like. body language. Sometimes receivers kind. of rise up at the break points. You know.

the different break points and every uh. team that you're playing. Just like AQ. shows running schemes. It's the same. with the passing schemes. Like hey it's. if I'm impressed or I'm off coverage. All right. This team they run their. shoulder routes between four and six. yards. They run the deeper ones between. 10 and 12 or 14 and 16 or you know 22 to. 24 yard dick. Like different teams based. on quarterbacks. Matt Stafford with his. uh arm strength and the play calling. ability from Shawn McVey. It's a wide. range of different things that they do. So, this is a great job of taking that.

chance. Been physical at the top, too. You can This is a You talked about being. able to throw the holding flag on any. route. You could easily throw a illegal. contact here because it's 10 yards down. uh down the field. But, uh they didn't. They let him play and it's a big time. play. >> We like that they let him play. We got. to say that's good refing. Yeah. Okay. That's understanding the game a little. bit. >> Yeah. Cuz he was, you know, he got his. hands on the he was looking at the. quarterback. he was anticipating. I love. not seeing a flag there taking away a. big play. Speaking of big plays, another. one on second and 10. I don't know how. it happened. Just went through here and.

most of these plays are on second and 10. or second and nine, which is weird. >> Let the stats stop that. >> The best time to get an interception is. actually on second down with 10 yards. needed for another first down. >> Yep. And this is uh two-minute. situation. So, a little bit over a. minute left in the clock. Two-score lead. here by the Dolphins and Rous Douglas. So, we talked about Mike Jackson on the. last interception playing it like it was. split safety. We always talk about split. safety and single high safety. And. that's all offenses and coaches and. quarterbacks want to know pre- snap. Am. I getting a split safety look or a.

middle field uh closed look? And that. lets you know the corner cuz on the. outside if you have a middle clos, if. you have a free safety in the middle of. the field, I'm guaranteed a one-on-one. with my outside receivers because there. is no safety that can get there. It just. can't happen. But when there's a split. safety, you always have to be aware of a. corner that can squat. And if you run it. back to the beginning, this is exactly. what Douglas does. He's a veteran. He's. been around the league a long time. We. call his palms. We call his trap. And. his height, his key is literally just.

the number two wide receiver. Run it. back one more time. He is reading the. number two wide receiver. He breaks out. within the four to six yard range. I'm. breaking it and I'm playing the out. route. And if you run it back one more. time, the free safety, he's also reading. him because he knows once he breaks, I. got to get over number one right now. because they're looking at their whole. shot. So, he's reading him. If number. two goes vertical, then it turns into a. quarter coverage. And then the safety's. on number two deep and the uh corner is. on number one deep. But with this route, this is a perfect route, perfect. execution for the defense that was.

called. And it's nothing better than. getting an interception. And I didn't I. didn't put Minko on here. He had a big. time two-point conversion that he. returned uh for two points, which we. rarely see, which gave the Dolphins a. four-point lead and pretty much sealed. the game for him. But the defense making. big time plays. >> Hey, the Dolphins. >> lurking. Make us a dog. He's been so. good all year. Happy is back in Miami. He seems happy, too. It's great. >> You seem happy, too. >> Hey, we're lurking and we ain't dead. yet. We ain't dead yet. >> Lurking. >> Yeah. And and on that Mika on that Minka.

Fitzpatrick play um the comms weren't. working so they didn't get a call. I. believe was it Jordan Brooks Gumps. >> Tyrell Dodson? >> Tyrell Dodson kind of called the play. and then once they got lined up still. you know had get Minka lined up so he. ran across um we won't be able to see it. but he gets lined up undercuts the. crossing route once again. Another. veteran player understanding where the. play is going to be where the play. should be made and then picking it off. and taking it back to the grip. once. again a rookie quarterback. Even though. he's, you know, a grown old ass man at.

this point, is a rookie quarterback. >> Okay, never mind. I'm sorry. I didn't. want to interrupt you. I just definitely. interrupt you. But to your point, Tyler. Shuck, like 40 years old, got drafted. Yeah. >> Jay Will last night calling some college. game. He was like 28's like the average. age of college basketball now. He like. made that comment like subtly. >> I'm like, "Oh, are they going through a. little bit in college hoops right now?". >> Oh, yeah. with what was been happening. with football uh. >> and with the G-League, they are college. basketball is going through it because. the G-League guys that's not that's not.

going away like there are 20 year olds. and 20 is not that old but I guess in. college basketball kind of is 20. >> two-year delayed start. Yeah, that's. that's because then at the end of that. thing you could be not that you will be. but you could be 24 25 years old. >> Yeah, I believe BYU just got a 22 year. old from the G- League. Yeah. >> It's like this happened in football. >> and that's four years of eligibility. So. if he does stay like he'll be 26 it. seems. >> five actually if the red shirt. >> and if he goes on a mission he'll be 30. when he's done. >> Bingo. >> Yeah. So there is that worry in that. conversation. It has happened in. football. Shuck is a story. There's been.

other like. >> baseball guys that have there's been. older guys in college football. Punters. obviously coming from Australia. Not. blaming the Australian folks. Love the. Australian community and love that their. game involves a lot of punting. But guys. would be finishing professional careers. in Aussie rules football and then coming. over to America to start in college. Some of them not but like it was like a. handful but they were like 25 years old. freshman and it's like.

>> 24 year old freshman it's like that's a. >> that's a much better option than a. 17-year-old kid from America. Oh yeah. Now how many 18 17 year old kids from. America now are going to have an. opportunity if this becomes a thing? It. was small in the kicking community. because it wasn't like we were judging. the Aussies, but it was like this is. kind of a crazy Yeah. >> setup that this can even happen. And. then now it's starting to happen, I. guess, in basketball. This has been a. little bit of a niche thing that could. happen if you don't start your clock, I. think, is how it was always described, right? You had five years once you start. your. >> further educa, secondary education.

clock. So, if you never do anything. university, it never you can just start. later. It's a crazy setup right now. I. mean, didn't you call a game like when. you were calling games in 2018 and it. was Houston and his kid Dane Roy who was. 30 years old and he was the punter for. the team like. >> Yeah, I think so. >> That that stuff that that can't happen. Punting is one thing like you talk about. all the time like as a punter on a team. like that is one separate thing. Like if. there's a 25year-old center on Iowa or. on Florida like that is asinine. There.

are guys think about think about Anthony. Edwards right now. He he's not even 25. and he's already got a max contract. >> He was a tight end at Miami didn't he? >> Yeah, he played nine years of college. football injuries. It's too much. But uh. Tyler Shook, I think he'll be all right. You know, getting thrown in that fire. Uh what when he take over like week 11. or something like that, so it's still. early in his career. He will be all. right. It's a learn. You got to get. beat. You got to get beat by Shik. That. that first pick that Shadore threw where. I think the flat defender kind of faked. in and faked out. Like you got to throw.

that interception. You got to get beat. on double moves. That [ __ ] has to happen. in this league and then you learn from. it. >> Orki said shock was fantastic. >> He did really. >> Yeah. He said uh Tyler Shock was. fantastic today. Aggressive move really. well. Confidence. I saw the field clean. >> What you want to see? I saw two plays. where that ain't true. It's confident. >> Hey, it's non debatable. You said. >> you got to give Charlie Smith an option. You can't you got to give him an. opportunity. You can't be throwing picks. anywhere near the red zone. Really on. the plus side of the field. >> You tossing around in Gaelic. Uh I'm I'm.

kind of just waiting to see what's going. to happen to Charlie Smith. I haven't. heard anything. Obviously Blake Groupy. signing with the. >> huge. >> Yeah, that's massive for Mr. Smith. >> and for the Colts. >> That too. >> Huge. >> Yeah. Well, he's not, but the the. signing is. >> No, but he's back in Indiana. Remember, he's Notre Dame legend. >> That's right. >> He's got good kicks in them. I'm happy. we got Blake. I guess extra points. We. got to make those. You know, we've been. searching for makeable. >> Got to make them. And the Colts are. signing captain too. Guy's a good leader.

in the locker room. I like that. I like. to see the C on his chest coming to. town. And also, brother, you make kicks. This could be your job for a long haul. >> Someone crop him in this photo. >> Why? >> He just he looks real small. >> Yeah. How big is this guy? >> What are you guys talking about? Yeah, he's. >> dooms. >> He hits big balls. >> I can't lie. >> He hits big balls. There's no reason for. Bruce to do what he's doing, D. >> Yeah. Just I I mean that guy's on his. knees and he's damn near halfway up his. chest,

>> dude. Come on. >> He's 5 Yeah. 57 155. >> 57. >> Yeah. >> Bombs balls. >> He's a modern marvel, actually. >> Wow. >> Blake, I I don't know how he's able to. do it. He crushes footballs. Welcome to. the Colts, brother. Great to have you. >> Hell yeah, Blake. >> I would like to say I did what you guys. did before watching him kick balls. I. say he looks to be way too small to be. kicking footballs. I've never seen a guy. small that can be explosive enough to. move an NFL ball, which is big. The Duke. is big, far and high enough. His leg.

speed's insane. >> This guy's leg speed is absolutely. insane. Welcome to the Colts, Blake. Happy, Blake. >> Let's get back some good D, it looks. like. >> Let's do it. Talk about modern Marvel. Tony Jefferson back in the league. Set. out a couple years and then came back. and he's been finding the football this. season up top. You're going to see a. double move from backed up. And this is. something if you pause it here, this is. aggressive by the Raiders. You know, you. throwing it from the your own end zone. You got to trust your offensive line to. run a double move. The quarterback up. top does a great job. I believe that's.

Dante Jackson up top with the double. move. But watch it. Look at where Tony. Jefferson is right now. You talk about. covering ground, getting off the hash, single high safety, running to the. football. You run to the football and. good things happen. Dante Jackson tips. it up. We talk about tips and. overthrows. And this is why you run to. the ball. All the way out of bounds. They were reviewing this. Hey, was the. guy out of bounds? Did he touch it? Should it be dead? They held it up and. they stayed an interception. Got his. knees down in bounds. Great catch. Great. rep. You see it? Pause it here. So, he's.

trying to show right now. Run it all the. way back to the beginning if you can. They're trying to disguise and show, hey, this is a split safety look. If you. see him here, hey, I want to show Gino. some shoulders going to the left. And. then as soon as the ball is snapped, I'm. going to open up, get to center field, read those indicators, read Gino, and. just haul ass to the sideline and. hopefully something good happens. Yeah, I love whenever superstar plays are made. by superstar players. You guys uh. obviously talking your [ __ ] after. accomplishing this because obviously tip. drill is a drill practice. >> This is beautiful though. This is.

absolutely beautiful. And also let's. keep it up in the sky as opposed to. getting it on the ground there. >> Yeah, love that. Just a effort from both. guys cuz him obviously you get a PB. He. thinks probably at that point when he. just bats the ball in there, hey, great. play PBU and you look up and you see. your guy got the ball in his chest. Unbelievable play. And I love these. [ __ ] jerseys, too. >> Yeah, they looks unbelievable. Uniform. struck. Who's this against? >> The other the Raiders. >> Yeah, but who's quarterback? >> Gino Smith. >> That's what I'm talking about with his. interceptions. This exact [ __ ]. >> Very unlike. >> He has had some plays made against him. that are outrageous. Somebody put on a.

Batman cape, jumped over a person, levitated, and picked it up like this. And uh Gino threw two picks today. Did. you see them? I mean, the guy dropped in. from the clouds. This one, you should. see it. The guy broke it up, falling, bats it up in the sky, and then he just. so happens to have a guy there. Guess. why? His knees don't slide. Somehow they. stop right in. Gino's trying to explain. this to people. I I know the numbers. aren't good, but you should have [ __ ]. seen this pick that this guy made. Outrageously. >> Blame it on me. >> Yeah, blame on me. Exactly. I'll blame.

it. Your kids uh get sick, you can blame. Gino. Guy makes a [ __ ] highlight. reel, impossible catch, blame Gino. It's. tough times out there in Las Vegas. Pete. Carol may be the Penn State. I know. Braum isn't. >> Oh, >> Braum, I guess, has now come out and uh. uh turned down Penn State. Actually, he. and Louisville are actually reworking a. deal right now. I'll stay in Louisville. instead of going to Penn State. Now, it. is being reported by on three that uh. big-time donors at Penn State are.

potentially pushing for Terry Smith to. be promoted from interim to actually. full-time head coach just like the boys. are kind of saying, >> but they want that. >> It's on three reporting. We do not know. Uh Pete uh. >> No, no reported that. I don't I think he. works for on three. >> He does. >> Okay. We appreciate everybody at on. three. I watch I follow the graphics. I. follow the graphics. >> Good graphics. Great social. Great. social. >> Uh so we appreciate that whole Okay. Terry Smith, obviously living legend,

former Penn State great wide receiver, Western Pennsylvania beast. Uh damn good. high school football coach before going. up to Penn State there. AQ, how do you. feel if that report is accurate that. Braum said, "I'll stay in Louisville.". And uh Terry Smith hiring from within. Let's go ahead and try to see if we can. get over the top here. >> Well, I never thought Braum was ever. going to be an option. He played at. Louisville. All his brothers played at. Louisville. Brian Braum was actually one. of the top quarterbacks in our class. coming out of high school. So all they. were they were Louisville through and.

through. I think uh Terry Smith. Whipfield legend went into the Whipio. Hall of Fame same night I did. >> Hell yeah. >> Ah Peters, >> can we scroll up? Can I see his face? >> You think he's embarrassed at all being. the 25th option or No. >> Uh I think that's not Terry. Yeah, that. is Terry. >> Terry Smith. Uh Terry Smith was the. interim head coach. He knew that the the. AD had to do what the AD had to do. No stone left unturned. I'm gonna hold. it down here in the locker room. You do. what you got to do for the betterment of. Penn State. I think Terry loves Penn.

State. I think he cried because of like. I think he is got emotional because of. how much he loves Penn State. Obviously. the locker room rallied around Terry. through this entire thing. Still didn't. win a couple games, but you did win one. Okay. >> Three. >> Okay. >> You won three. You. >> guys didn't have a Big 10 win until deep. into November, but nonetheless, a lot of. turnover, lot of craziness. Yeah. >> Quarterback. >> Quarterback got hurt. He's great. >> Got hurt. Yeah, he's great. >> Talking about 15.

>> Talking about 15. >> Feels like you're We stopped debuts, good deed, bad deed to break the news. that basically it feels like we. >> I don't think that's news. It's saying. the the some donors are pushing that. I. don't think that's. >> donors are embarrassing. Can we just. [ __ ] hire the guy we had all year? NO. ONE WANTS TO GO for us. >> I GOT SENT A FLIGHT PATH. I got sent a. flight path. I think there's other news. >> Flight path. >> Who's Who's doing flight paths? >> Someone sent it to me, man. >> You got source the internet.

>> Yeah, >> we don't need to put that up. I don't. like that that exists. >> But I just I'm seeing the flight path. that you probably got sent to you if I. had to guess. >> Peel, >> huh? >> Keep your eyes peeled. I think that's. what AQ's saying. >> Head on a swivel. Okay. >> You What do you think donors are saying. though about where that plane's headed? >> Turn that [ __ ] thing around right. now. We're wasting gas. Let's get Terry. Smith's family on that play. >> Yeah, we'll see. Terry Smith there. Terry Smith's there. He was in charge of. keeping recruits. >> It's been there.

>> We got two left. >> That's why you got a quarterback for. >> What was Terry supposed to say to these. recruits? Am I going to be back? I have. no idea. There's no reason for you to. say that about Terry Smith right now. There's no reason for that to be your. reaction. >> Terry, I'm in a I'm in a bitter place. Hey, we're. >> Well, Braum said to hell with Penn. State. >> Yeah. I mean, >> how about you saying, "Well, you want. the Louisville." So, his brother's. Louisville. >> We keep announcing these extensions, expecting Brent Key or Braum to leave. I. mean, these guys are legends at their. own school and they're going to pay him. $10 million a year to stay. Don't have.

to move your family. Don't have to move. your kids. Don't have to switch schools. Don't have to listen to your wife. [ __ ]. about having to move the whole family. and all that. It's a win for all these. guys staying at these schools to get 10. million plus to stay at these schools. Of course, that's what's going to. happen. College football's a [ __ ] show. right now. >> NO, IT'S NOT. EVERYBODY, EVERYBODY'S. HAVING AN A- OKAY TIME. West Virginia. signing three stars and four stars. We've never done this before. College. football's great right now. >> HIRE NEIL BROWN. >> NEIL BROWN. ALL RIGHT. They get hired in. North Texas. Congrats to him. He's off. the market. >> Doesn't even want Penn State.

>> He's going to coach him if they get into. the playoff. That's a decision they've. made. >> Trust. >> Dead serious. >> Good photo they use. >> Neil Brown is finalizing a 5-year deal. to become the next coach at North Texas. He brings 10 years of head coaching. experience, including a 3516 Mark at. Troy. He was great there in a 3735 mark. at West Virginia. Felt like we're always. getting closer. Just always getting. closer, just really never really. climbing. So, we move on from him. He. goes down to Texas, works alongside uh. Steve Sarkeesian as an assistant to the. head coach, and now he's the head coach. at North Texas. He was always first.

class with West Virginia. He was always. super kind to our people. I feel like he. did his job the way he did his job. I. don't think his style would work at West. Virginia, but it did work at Troy. We. assume it'll work at North Texas for. him. And they got a good team. You're. saying he's coaching in the playoffs? >> Yeah, I believe so. I believe once this. was finalized, they basically said, "Hey, you can go to Oklahoma State, pal. We got [ __ ] Neil Brown now. >> So, get to stepping.". >> Is that Tone? Is that Was that reported. here? Where's Ty in this room? >> Did Hayes Faucet say that?

>> I don't know if Hayes I don't know if. Hayes on the recruiting beat. I don't. know if he's on the coaching. >> Might have been Nakos. Could have been. Nakos. You're right. But I'm pretty sure. Eric Morris is going to coach North. Texas through the playoffs. >> Well, what's Neil is Neil get a ring? They should. >> If they win, >> they win what? >> I appreciate uh the whole thing. Win. national championship. >> Debots, whether you like it or not, that. team's going to be in the playoffs. >> I I don't mind. >> Oh, really? It didn't sound like that. yesterday. >> I don't mind. It was me. It wasn't me in. war on X. >> Who was it? >> I don't mind.

>> Who was it? >> Ty, you were in the middle of it with. two lanes. >> I didn't think they'd get that upset cuz. I thought they'd just see it my way. And you know what? Maybe that was naive. of me to think. >> I didn't think they would get upset cuz. I thought they would see it my way. I. thought they had brains. That's what you. just said. >> Well, and then they started trying to. say like, you know, two lane would run. right down Iowa's throat. So, I just. went and I said, "Hey, hypothetically,

if we were to play a game between Iowa. and Two Lane on a neutral site, will the. spread be?" And a lot of places had. Iowa's 10 and a half point favorite. And. I said, "Well, that's the problem right. there. I was [ __ ] eight and four. And. if they're a 10 and a half point. favorite against two lane on a neutral. field, what do you think a [ __ ] team. like one of these teams is really. [ __ ] good, what do you think they're. going to do to them? That's all I was. saying. >> And then in that case, the two lane. people said, "You don't know what's. going to happen. Anything can happen on. a football field. That's college. football." Is that what they said to. you? >> Actually, I don't think a lot of those.

comments were even made. Just a lot of. mean stuff. This guy looks like he plays. Dungeons and Dragons. He doesn't know. anything about football. I said, "You. know what? I do know you're not going to. like what happens if you get into the. playoff, but we'll see. That's why we. let Hunter the Hunter URKs of the world. deal with that and decide. >> There's a lot of people turning against. the smaller school champion. >> I hope they get a shot to shine. >> That's not what you said yesterday. You. agreed with me, >> huh? >> I agree with you, Ty. >> Thank you. >> You all were kind of agreeing. >> You all were 100% agreeing. I mean, if.

two. >> I don't remember. >> One day at a time. >> Be where my feet are. >> You were starting to agree. You said. comment. Oh, not starting. I've always. agreed. I mean, if two lane plays. Oregon, I'll watch the first drive. Oregon will walk down the field, score. on them, then they'll get a stop, then. they'll walk back down. It'll be 14. nothing. And I'll turn off play. Battlefield. >> Battlefield's a good game. >> Great set, baby. >> Remember, two lane did play a team, the. UTSA. Sir, >> they were four and four at the time. I. don't know where they're at now. 4826.

Teams have bad days though is what two. lane would say. James Madison Madison. people say what we are told top five. champions get in the dance what are we. even having a conference championship. for this what we're playing for here. championships matter conference. championships matter. and everybody now is starting to say. well they're going to [ __ ] take whose. spot are they going to take. >> and it's not just them cuz like this. year I don't think the ACC conference. championship matters. >> Duke and Virginia. >> yeah that's [ __ ] too.

>> got a lot to figure out somebody will. We'll see. >> Good luck to Lane, though. >> Good luck to Lane. I'm all for, you. know, having more more teams get a shot. to shine. >> And North Texas. >> And North Texas, especially if Neil. Brown's coaching, which I've heard. rumors that he will be. >> You were the only one that hurt him. >> Yeah. I don't know. I [ __ ] Hayes. Faucet may have led me astray. >> He's wrong. It's a It had to be That was. Faze Haw. That was Faze Haw. You got to. watch that. >> It might have been. You're right. >> Internet's so good. You know who it does. kind of seemingly sound like we're on. the up and to the right for Penn State.

That's what I'm saying. >> Nope. >> Donor's pulling the trigger on Terry. Smith. >> Yep. >> Penn State's a hockey school. >> Yeah, but the. >> wrestling. >> Sorry. Excuse me. Yeah. >> They paid the most uh NIL to a hockey. player ever to this McKenna kid. >> That's cuz he's the one. >> He's the one. >> How you guys doing? >> I think we're pretty good. Top five, I. think. >> You don't even know. >> Wow. Disgusting. >> Well, hockey they change rankings every. week, you know? It's like you lose one, you drop to seven, you win two, you go.

back to three. So, >> oh, like college football. >> Oh, so like how rankings work. Like kind. of how rankings work. >> Yeah, the [ __ ] deal goes. You lose, you drop down, you win. I don't know. what they did. I don't know what they. did last year. >> Every once in a while you tie and they. just, you know, just kind of move along. >> Sure. >> Penn State is currently in ninth. >> Oh man. >> Yeah. >> See, they dropped down. >> They're 115 and0. >> Five. They beat Michigan State. >> Duth. >> Michigan State 113 and 0. Not bad. Good. team. >> Michigan 15 3 and 0. Gez, they're.

playing a lot of games. >> Dartmouth 8 and0. >> Yeah, Darm's pretty good. They don't. have as many games as everybody else. People are scared to schedule them. >> Yeah. Ivy League, too. They got to go to. school. >> Yeah. North Dakota, it's cold as [ __ ]. out there. A lot of ice. They're playing. outside mostly. 104 and0. They got. difficult ice outside there. >> Oh, yeah. >> Yeah. So, you got to come into the real. prairie out there. Skate on the wood. >> And then Penn State's down there 11 five. and0. They'll get hot air. >> No doubt. >> Volleyball team will win. Yeah. Wrestling's going to win. >> Soccer probably be good. >> Awesome.

>> Football, you guys are good, too. >> Yeah. >> Braum doesn't want to go. >> No. >> Frank Key doesn't want to go. No. >> Signetti didn't want to go. >> No. >> Rule didn't want to go. Lane Keifin. didn't want to go. No. >> Saw didn't want to go. >> Morris was okay with that. >> Glesh. >> Florida can have them. Auburn can have. them. >> Pat Fitzgerald. >> Fitzger. Well, Spartans can have them. >> So, this what we're saying? who what. human is out there is that you guys are. looking terrible.

>> He's there. I think he lives in New. York. He's unemployed. There's no coach or no B booster at some. school that's going to give him an. extension right now. >> He's the guy. Who is that old Dolphins O. line coach? >> He's cooking with the ners, bro. >> Yeah, maybe we bring him in. He's a. great offensive line.

>> He's a big bad speed. Great offensive. line go. Get him in the Happy Valley. Turn everything around. All right, let's. get some bad D, shall we? >> Yeah. So, this is actually kind of bad. Starts off bad, ends up good. You talk. about playing, you know, the snap all. the way through. And we always say on. defense, defend every blade of grass. So. Isaiah likely makes a big time play. Lamar Jackson steps up, makes a throw, and 80s going all the way. Bop bop bop. bop bop. Jordan Battle all the way to. the goal line. Punched it out. Stripped.

right at the wrist at the forearms. Knock this ball out. Turns it to a. touchback and not a touchdown. So starts. off as a terrible defensive play and a. great offensive play by Likely, but we. always talk about defending every blade. of grass. defensive back coach going to. talk about it. Even the other guy coming. in, uh, Davis coming in with a punch. out, but this is unbelievable effort. diving over the block, making the strip. at the goal line. Just an unbelievable. play. Start off his bags. Was a terrible. rep, but it's all about how you finish. as a DB. >> Cincinnati Bengals have a chance.

>> Hey, this was a obviously huge play. You. see the score, you know, if they go up, you know, obviously eight or nine points. at this point in the game, depending on. how they feel about the analytics and. great play to to get the ball back in. Burough's hand. And they're they're in. playoff mode right now. So all these. plays matter. So you love seeing this. from your safety Jordan battle. >> How do we feel about the rule, you know, the ball going out? >> I like it. >> Yeah, defensive players like it. >> I kind of do too. >> I I think it's great. I think it's like. attention to detail, you know, through. the through the entirety of it all. Obviously, this one was a great play. that was made, but when the guys even.

when the guys bobble, >> I think it's like uh Yeah, you're about. to enter the most important part of the. the field. You have the most important. thing in your hands. Figure it the [ __ ]. out. >> Yeah. I I genuinely they were trying to. overturn that. Remember. >> like ball goes back to where you fumbled. it. There's. >> what play what play was it? It was a. specific play maybe on a prime time game. where that conversation got loud again. Maybe last season. I can't remember. Obviously we saw Jeremiah Smith. >> Yeah, that situation I think is. different like Jeremiah Smith where. >> he had it. >> He has it just kind of changed his hands.

a little bit but still has it. Like I. was going to be so mad if they didn't. call it a touchdown. here. This is just. a great play and if you drop the ball. before the goal line, you're a [ __ ]. idiot. But like in a Jeremiah Smith. situation where he makes the catch, he's. running in and then like in the snow. he's changing hands and bobs it a. little. >> He still controls it though. That ball. is going with him where he's going. I. think he's still in control of the ball. He's influencing the ball after he's. already clearly had possession. >> and caught it. Yeah. >> If he's if he didn't have possession.

before that, I don't I don't think we. could give it to him in that moment. But. since he was already ball carrier poss, he was still in control of ball. >> Like I don't think he ever fumbled that. ball to your point. Like he always had. the possession. Like if you're changing. hands with the ball and it like moves a. little, I don't think that should be. considered a fumble because there I. thought there was a chance they're. legitimately. >> But if I'm Michigan have a real. argument, I think. >> Yeah, I think you have a real argument. That's why I think it was going to get. really loud. But in my head, as soon as. I saw it and I had picked Penn State or.

Ohio State, I'm sorry. I. want to do that. >> Have you seen Have you seen the updated. rankings. >> with what? >> For recruiting day. >> They got better. >> No, you guys fallen out of rankings. entirely. You don't even number. You're. tied for 17 64th with William and Mary. >> To be quite honest with you, I'd rather. be there. >> than have one just put a [ __ ] dash. next to us. That's what I want. >> You're tied for 164th in the country. >> Looks like you might need three recruits. to qualify. Love that.

>> Colgate got some. >> We got We got a quarterback. Tone told. me though. We got a four-star commit. committed to a school doesn't have a. [ __ ] coach. This guy sounds. brilliant. >> He's a believer, dude. >> He's a believer in the brand, in the. logo. >> Hell yeah. >> In the name. >> I want that guy. >> That's a good thing. >> It's unbelievable. It's not a good. thing. >> Oh [ __ ] I want a critical thinker. playing quarterback.

This guy's like, "Ah, they're gonna. figure it out. They haven't figured it. out for the last [ __ ] month, but. they're going to figure it out. Penn. State, it is like what?". >> Now, to be clear, Terry Smith played a. key role inside. quarterback. >> Fzone. >> baiting foul zone. I didn't know this. was a foul zone. That's a whole. different ball game. >> Foul zones. Cal zones. >> all over the NIL trail. >> That's right.

>> Terry Smith signing fourstar. quarterbacks. Don't even know if he's a. coach yet. This guy is committed to the. brand. >> Yeah, >> he's so committed. He was committed to. Penn State once before and Auburn. previously as well. >> So this foul zone guy. >> Why don't you like him? He's a four-star. quarterback. He believes in Penn State. >> Your quarterback. >> You got to take what you get. You should. probably pipe down and just accept the. fact that this is the only [ __ ] guy. you're going to get. >> Foul zone. >> I don't know. It's transfer portal. coming up. That's who we got. >> Yeah. And Terry Smith's going to be. like, "Hey, look, they went with me.

[ __ ] it. I don't know why, but you. should go with me, too.". >> Terry Smith is good. Hey, he's a good. He's a good baller. No doubt. >> Yep. >> More like we aren't. >> Oh my god. What a kill shot. What an. absolute kill shot. Do you feel like. >> you know you know what the kill shot's. going to be? This [ __ ] and that. [ __ ] back there. These guys are. Big 10 guys. So, when Penn State doesn't. have a [ __ ] coach or a recruiting. class and they beat I1 Michigan State. next year, I'm gonna come in here and. drop my [ __ ] balls on the thing.

>> Okay. Okay. He's getting jacked up. >> We're in a rebuild right now. >> And we beat you this year, you know. So, I mean, hey, let I got to see it. >> Without a quarterback and without a. coach. >> So, what you guys do next year? >> And what you guys do? You guys uh refuse. to schedule West Virginia for the next. few years, right? You guys are scared of. West Virginia. >> Oh, so scared. So scared. So scared. I. mean, Penn State's terrified. >> You guys don't have a recruiting class, dude. You. >> You guys are basically Northwestern. No, we're we got two. >> No, Northwestern's like a top 50 class. right now. >> That's true.

>> Foul zone. No, >> it's better to be a dash than a number. right now. Right. >> 164th. >> Who's last in the NFL in defense? Not. this team. This is the first time we've. seen him on bad D. >> Oh, probably. Yeah, cuz once again, going into last week, not only were we. talking about the offense, we were also. talking about the defense. And I think. that actually played a factor in this. Um, believe it was Kobe Durant. We. talked about, you asked about, hey, is. he sitting on the sticks because he. trusts the pass rush and he trusts the. stunt and he trusts those guys to get. home. And I was like, yes, most likely.

Same thing with Forbes here. And you. know, this is the life as a DB in the. NFL. You have great weeks, you have bad. weeks. And this was definitely a rough. weeks, a rough week for Forbes. You got. T-Mac running the crossing route and. he's ready to undercut it. He's like, "Hey, I know the quarterback. I know. young can't just sit in the pocket and. pat this ball until he runs all the way. That timer goes off. He looks back and. T-Mac climbs and he throws the ball. right over the top. This is a big time. fourth down play. He played great on the. high leverage situations. Seven. Go. ahead. Shot him out there in the pocket.

I see you. >> Chuba Hubard. You see Chuba Hubard? Watch this. >> Boom on Braden Fisk. I like that. >> And that's a big boy. It's 74 securing. that uh middle of the pocket. We always. talk about protecting the middle of the. pocket, especially, you know, shorter. quarterbacks, but all quarterbacks. He. had time to sit in there, sit in that. pocket and throw a great ball over the. top on fourth down to take the lead in. the fourth quarter. >> Carolina Panthers a good football team. >> They're a good football team. >> I mean, they're playing their seventh. right offensive guard. Jake Kurhan was. not even I mean, he was on the Arizona. Cardinal training camp, then he's on a. practice squad. He wasn't playing. They.

pick him up. Playing right guard against. >> one of the best defense in the league. It's pretty good. >> Yeah. Carolina Panthers. Let's go. football. >> Good football team. >> Good football team. great win and I. think I think the best front four in. football just straight front four. Houston I think they have the best edge. and I think just allaround pass rush. would be the Broncos because of all the. different things that they do but if you. just talking about a front four um. getting home it was the Rams so for the. Panthers to step up with guys that you. know not front line guys for Bryce Young. to step up big time win at home ugly.

weather game back and forth game. everybody showed up complimentary. football big time win big time throws. >> hell yeah that's a good deep appreciate. you Duchi Great work this week. >> You too, brother. >> Great work. >> Hey, great work this week. >> Thank you, Mike. You too. Great work to. you guys. >> Talk to Taylor. Really good day today, boys. >> You too, man. >> Boys in the back. Really good stuff. >> GDBs, good work. Z Mitt, phenomenal stuff. YouTube coding bill really doing it.

>> Hell yeah. >> What a time here. Meaningful football. I. have some breaking news. Thursday at. midnight, uh I'll be releasing uh my. first song, Dookie. Okay. >> Hell yeah. >> Yes. The open from Oregon the first time. uh this year got flipped into a. freestyle which got made into an actual. song which then led to a conversation. with a couple people who are really good. at music and then all of a sudden we're. recording some songs and then all of a. sudden Dookie is ready. Then all of a.

sudden we're going to put it out on all. platforms and then uh how about all the. other songs that you got? Yeah, let's do. those too. So, there's about to be a. crazy addition to I think my life here. over the next uh couple weeks, months, or whatever. And uh this has been a lot. of fun. This has been a journey into. music, which I've obviously always been. a huge fan. And for like the last 15, 20. years of my life, uh I've just like kind. of gone through life in my notes. section, just like I guess they call it. journaling. For me, it would just be. like writing poems or bars or choruses.

or verses or melodies or songs just. throughout different portions of what I. was kind of going through. And I asked. uh Jelly Roll one time, I think we were. uh this back when Jelly Roll was still. big. Back Jelly Roll was still big. Now. he's. >> very slim. >> Mhm. >> Yeah. He's just jelly. >> Yeah, >> he's just jelly now. There's no more. roles in there. I told him, I'm like, "Hey, I love writing. How do you go. about writing?" Got a chance to kind of. meet these guys and talk to Jelly a. little bit. and he was like, "Let me. introduce you to Ernest." Ernest. obviously is one of the biggest music.

minds that is even out there right now. The amount of number ones and the amount. of like talent he has just radiating. through everything. So I meet up with. him and then all of a sudden I'm in a. studio in Nashville and I'm watching. these geniuses do their thing and I'm. I'm sitting in the middle of the show. song land pretty much in real life. watching these musicians do stuff and. then they're ask me questions and then. my lyrics are being turned into actual. songs and then I'm singing. It's like. this whole thing has like kind of become. its own little journey in of itself and. reflection because I'm visiting old. lyrics in old times of my life and uh.

yeah, it just felt like it was the right. time to kind of start something. So the. dookie freestyle that comes a song is. the first one we're putting out. But. there's like some real uh life messaging. coming out in songs I think from me over. the next I don't I want to say couple. months I think cuz it's like an. interesting process in the you know the. mixing the tracking the singing the. vocals the editing the I don't know what. this last version was. Do you remember.

the version before this one and then. this one that came out? They did. something to the audio. I have no idea. what went in there. Everything was just. like cleaner and more pristine. It's. been fun. So, Thursday at midnight, Dookie is dropping and uh we'll be doing. some contests, you know, with the Dookie. song. I think it'll alleyoop and set up. for some good uh, you know, content. I. think the lyrics and the song and the. vibe will set up for some good content. So, obviously, we'll have to do a. contest of some sort for the people. And. I I hope you get a chance to listen. And. uh for all the other songs that end up.

coming out, it's like uh know that I've. been writing for a long time and. watching it all come to I got like. emotional multiple different times like. actual tears falling. And I think it's. pretty good that uh you know my daughter. McKenzie and baby boy on the way if I. was to die which a lot of these songs. are about you know like if not a lot but. there's a lot of trends about me dying. young and I think I've always expected. that and if it was to happen I think. through these songs my kids will know. exactly who the [ __ ] their dad was and.

when he was and what he was and uh it's. been a really cool thing that I've been. lucky enough to do here. Ernest and Seth. from Big Loud have been like a tag team. partner for me. Holman, obviously you. guys got to meet Holman, one of the. greatest vibes of all time. And uh it's. been a cool journey to kind of pick up a. whole new thing that I'm such a big fan. of and learn about. And uh hopefully. hopefully it'll be some good [ __ ] I got. to find out if they suck or not. Dookie, what a [ __ ] hilarious song to be the. first one to drop honestly. And uh the.

boys have been forced to listen to all. these songs. >> Not forced. >> over kind of though. you have definitely. been forced. It's like uh boy, sorry. I. got to turn this. I got to hear what. this [ __ ] is. And you know, learning my. singing voice has been an entire thing. cuz I'm not a big singer. I'm a yeller. and a talker, you know? So like singing. is not necessarily my forte. And then. there's a couple songs where you know, you write it and then they create it. with the music and you hear the melody. and then it's in a key or something. that's like too high. It's like, oh, I. don't think that's where this thing. should be. So then you got to kind of. redo it, bring it down a little bit, do.

the entire process and watching like the. scientist of music do their thing, you. know? It's been like [ __ ] sick. And I. think we got some I think there's some. bangers coming. I think there's some. very intimate stuff though. Like there's. a lot of like you're going to learn a. lot about me, I think. You know, it's a. lot of me and myself thoughts that we're. kind of finding out if they're dookie or. not. >> And uh it should be a fun little. experience. And I appreciate you guys. >> Congrats, brother. Big seen grind behind. the scenes. So to see be on the cusp of. it dropping like I'm excited for you.

It's dope, man. >> You guys have been here through the. whole process of this thing cuz it's. literally been since what when Jelly and. Ernest came in here. You can actually go. back to the exact day. >> summer jacket. This jacket was left here. by Ernest. Not on purpose. Some things. left in the pockets as well. >> Hey, little treat for you from old. uncle. >> But it was like from that day on it was. like the conversation just kind of one. thing led to another. And I think they. were expecting potential shite from my. writing and then it's like I think I got.

some bars in there. I think I got some. real [ __ ] Oh yeah. And if you write for. like 15 20 years there's enough to. create. >> So maybe you piece some together and. then all of a sudden it's like hold on a. second. I think we got like a meaningful. song here with a [ __ ] real bang bang. behind it. It's like yeah this is music. brother. It's like man thank you for. allowing me to do this. And Dookie is. hysterical. >> It's got [ __ ] real pop on it. Mhm. >> I'm really singing on that thing, too. >> Oh, yeah.

>> That's funny. Sitting in a room with. people that are actually talented in. music and I got headphones on. microphone. They're hearing without cuz. my ears are hearing this. >> They're just hearing me. Yeah. Their. actual talents listening to me sing. First time I'm doing that. I' I haven't. felt like that in a long time. Like I. can normally walk into any situation and. in my mind make myself feel like, hey, supposed to be here. Just act like. you're supposed to be here. Why not? Like just kind of do whatever it is. I. can kind of act as if, you know, like.

let's just kind of get through this. thing here. Be confident. When you're. just sitting in there with a microphone. like this and you got some of the most t. number one hits just like sitting all. around you and they're just waiting for. you to kind of record your vocals now. and it's like [ __ ] me. This is quite a. this is quite a this is a it was a you. know a lot of anx and then the amount of. positivity from the music world that it. has been down there in Nashville. It's. like really really cool. Really really. cool. So it should be a fun little. experience. Sports obviously always.

going to exist. But I think you know. having words that exist past 24 hours. would be cool too you know. >> certainly. >> And maybe people learn a little bit more. about who I am could be nice. And if you. still want to murder me, don't worry. I'm murdering you in some of these. songs. Uh Tone, why don't you come on. out here, brother, OUT OF HAMMER DON. DON, AND uh let's enjoy the hell out of. this life. Let's enjoy the hell out of. it all. It's crazy, though, that it's. all coming together. It's really crazy. >> Oh, yeah. >> It's an insane thing. >> Yeah.

>> The process is. has been so cool to kind of just watch. the different ears at work, if you will. You know, you talked about them sitting. around Jack White and Led Zeppelin and. >> Y. >> uh who. >> the Edge. >> The Edge was in there. you're talking. about that like I got to do that for. like my like hey here's my lyrics here's. how I think it could potentially go and. then like the actual genius is being. like oh we can. >> it's awesome. >> and then we can add. >> so cool. >> and we can add and it's like [ __ ] who's. that guy oh he has 40 number ones yeah. it's like one of the greatest session.

players of all time. thank you so much for who's that guy oh. he's one of the original Rascal flats. he's playing what the [ __ ] why is that. guy doing this who's that Post Malone's. a band leader and a guy who has I forget. how many all the number ones. Why is Yeah, dude. Everybody's like kind. of pumped that you're doing this. They. like kind of want to. Now, granted, we. are paying these people to do this, okay? This is a payment process. You're. they are working, but like they are all. like. >> the amount of like creative uh input and.

like effort it felt like from the music. community for this entire process has. been [ __ ] so cool to feel. It's been. a very cool thing. So, hopefully it's. good. And if if it's dookie, just know I. want four. And that's [ __ ] in a. couple of these songs as well. Great. work, Tone. You're the man. You look. like real cowboy right there. >> Hell yeah. >> Uh AQ, anything to say before we get out. of here? >> Buckle up, world. These songs are good. >> That's very cool of you. Dookie drops. Thursday night at midnight. More on the. way. Shout out to Big Loud, Cadillac.

Records, the Records, Jelly Belly, and. everybody else that was a part of the. process. I'm living a dream. And the. only reason why is because you people. allow us to do as such. Thank you so. much for letting us talk about sports. and do it for a living. You're the. greatest. Um, be a friend. Tell a friend. something nice. It might change your. life. We're in this thing together. Team. on me. Team on three. 1 2 3. Goodbye.

>> All the way here in Eugene smoking on. some new green. Changing up gratitude. I'm all the way in your jeans. Smoking. on some new green. Changing up the. routine. Gratitude truly feel like new. school. Life's pretty cool. Three jobs. >> So this insane I'm the fifth guy ever to. ride this motorcycle. It's a 1996 fat. boy. They've been doing it since 1999.

It's called the leader of the quack. >> You can call me the leader of the quack. right now. Quack. Quack quack. dogs. >> Guy currently his name is Matt. He's a. dog. He's wearing a different jacket. today and he told me to wear the one. he's wearing. This is a Grateful Dead. one. So, I'm going to wear this one. Leader of the quack in three.

shots. movie star. bank account juicy canceling. Yeah, you waiting for. Yeah, you waiting for. Yeah, you waiting for.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I'm a pair in your jeans. and you waiting for. >> Were you the one that I beat the hell. out of tic tac toe and roam both? >> I just beat him at tic tac toe line and.

sinker. You're the worst tic tac-toe. player of all time. >> Yeah. Get out. >> Undefeated. Completely done. He just came down in the thing. Go. make me want to put my hands up. TAKE MY. HEELS UP. Smoke some cheese. Give me the Oregon ducks to get a huge.

wave today. A little bit softer now. A little bit. softer now. A little bit softer now. A. little bit salty now. A little bit. something now. A little bit now. A. LITTLE BIT LOUDER NOW. A LITTLE BIT. LOUDER NOW. A LITTLE BIT LOUDER NOW. >> Don't let that [ __ ] happen again today.

>> Oh yeah, man. Oh my good. >> Thanks. >> Okay.