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[music] our humble abode. The Thunder. Dome. On this wild Wednesday, December. 17th, 2025, this sports program begins. RIGHT NOW. FOOTBALL. IT IS MAGICAL, AND WE HAVE the. incredible opportunity to talk about it. every single day. What a dream life we. have as meaningful football is happening. all around us. The college football. playoff starts in just 2 days. And don't. look now, week 16 of the NFL season. starts tomorrow. Let's go to the toxic. table. Plus the Connor and Ty Schmidt.

Con man, it is something historic. happening with this NFL season where we. don't know [ __ ] about anything at this. stage. >> Yeah, zero division winners for the. first time going into week 16 since. 2016. It is electric. >> Wow, a lot of question marks all over. the place, including that NFC North, Ty. Schmidt, especially with the injuries. that are taking place all around the. league. >> Yeah, absolutely. But, you know, hey, we. we said it. Everything's still out ahead. of the Packers. Everything's still out. in front of the Bears as well. So, what. what a nice little showdown on a. Saturday night.

>> And then tomorrow night, week 16 of the. NFL season kicks off in the NFC West, which might be the NFL's best. It might. be the NFC beast as the Rams and. Seahawks try to find out who's going to. win that division. Now, the other team. will be in the playoffs, certainly, because of what the work has already. been done. And we're kind of staring. down a Vikings-Lions situation here. Although, Vikings-Lions last season was. the last weekend of the year where they. were trying to decide which was the one. seed and who was going to be the five. seed. But, in this particular case, it's. who's going to win the NFC West, which.

we all think is going to produce. potentially the Super Bowl champion, at. least the NFC representative. Let's go. to nine-year NFL vet Darius J. Butler. tomorrow night. Rams-Seahawks, so much. on the line. Congrats to Amazon Prime. That's how we're viewing this one. And. congrats to us as football fans. >> Yeah, we got a banger. We got bangers. all weekend long with the primetime. games. This should be a big one, two of. the best teams in the National Football. League. Superstars out there. Seeing. Puka do some other things right now. Not. concerned yet on the field. He's a.

dynamic receiver. He's going to have to. have a huge game without Davante out. there. He's going to have to continue to. have huge games if he's going to. continue to do the things he's doing off. the field, which we will certainly tell. Oos, like, "Hey, the louder you get, the. better you got to be.". >> Mhm. And that's just a part of the game. Everybody needs to know it. If you're. going to start doing a lot of extra. curriculars outside of football, which. is certainly going to be. very prevalent to Puka in L.A. with his. personality, with who he is, with how. good he is at football, with his. generation, with his age, with his. friends, he's going to have a lot of. opportunity to do a lot of things off. the field. We like him to take advantage.

of all those things for the good of him, for the good of his family, for the good. of his future. But, also, if on the. field remains great, it's okay. If on. the field slips at all, they will be. holding all of this against Puka. And. that's just what life is like as a. superstar, let alone in the city of. stars, where they could win a Super Bowl. this year yet again, D. Oh, yeah, absolutely. Got an MVP favorite, pretty. much front runner with Matt Stafford. slinging it. Great defense. Obviously, we expect Davante to be healthy playoff. time. But, yeah, they got everything in front. of them. And Puka has shown us that ball. comes first. First, he'll keep the main.

thing the main thing. So, I got faith in. this. This will be the first ever. Thursday night game with two teams with. 11-plus wins. Now, obviously, the. Thursday night package doesn't carry all. the way through the entire season. So, getting to 11 wins takes a long time to. get there. So, two 11-win teams, two. superstar teams, two potential Super. Bowl teams kicking off week 16. And then. guess what? It's not just Thursday that. we got NFL football. It's also. SATURDAY. WE GOT A DOUBLE-HEADER. Philadelphia and Washington at 5:00 p.m.

on Fox. This Philadelphia Eagles team on. Hard Knocks looks like they're having a. great time. >> Yeah, they do. It is crazy the. conversation around the Philadelphia. Eagles team with what's happening behind. the scenes. They just beat the breaks. off of the Raiders this past weekend, 31-zip. Coop was smiling. Kenny Pickett. was crying. The Raiders are going to. have to start over yet again next. season. And the Philadelphia Eagles. said, "Speaking of starting over, this. whole season could just start each week, and we could run this thing all the way. through the Lombardi." They have all the. talent. They have all the ability. Do. they have the team and the camaraderie? We shall see on Saturday as they take on.

the Commanders, who sat Jayden Daniels. Marcus Mariota will continue it as they. have lost their playoff hopes. And then. the Green Bay Packers take on the. Chicago Bears in an NFC North battle for. who's going to be the number one seed, the number one team in the NFC North. Ty. Schmidt, Saturday football for you being. meaningful for the first time in a long. time as an Iowa Hawkeye fan. Good for. you, pal. >> Well, I wouldn't go that far, but I. mean, Iowa went to the Big Ten. Championship just a couple years ago. So, we have had a lot of meaningful. Saturdays. Thank you. But, no, this is.

awesome. This is awesome. I'm very. surprised that the Packers are still a. favorite in this game. And then, the. best part really is is I I'm not saying. we are going to get two blowouts in the. college football playoff with, you know, two of those Group of Five teams playing. in the exact same time slots as these. NFL games. But, we have viewing options. now. Hey, if one of these turns to. shite, you flip over to the NFL game. Or, if it's the NFL game, you flip over. to the college football games. That's. going to be awesome. >> College football game, I believe, will. be on the Ocho and on the Super Dooper.

W. >> Yep. I I think is where you will find. those two games. Obviously, we cannot. wait for that. Friday night, Alabama-Oklahoma kicks off the college. football playoff. Then at noon on ABC, Miami takes on Texas A&M. Then, once. again, 5:00, you have an NFL option with. the Philadelphia Eagles playing. Or, you. can watch at 3:30 on truTV, Tulane will. take on Ole Miss. And then at 7:30 on. TNT and truTV, JMU will take on Oregon. >> That's a good. >> one. Oregon needs to watch it. They do.

Especially, we don't know what Oregon's. like on TrueTV. No, that's a good point. >> We've seen Lizard Lick Towing on TrueTV. We've seen multiple other shows on. TrueTV that are high performance. >> Cops? Elite performance. Cops is on. TrueTV. I believe Live TV potentially. was or Live PD was potentially on there. at one point. We don't know what this. Oregon team looks like on TrueTV and I. don't think they do either. JMU team 12. wins. Yeah. They know how to win ball. games. >> Exactly. A lot of them. Don't be. sleepwalking through this, Ducks. Don't. be ducking around, Ducks, unless you.

want this JMU team to be the Cinderella. story. Joe Klatt said, "I'm sick of it. all, okay? The NCAA March Basketball. Tournament, March Madness, should be. called March Stupidity." He said there's. never any Cinderellas. The small schools. that we want to win never go on to win. Joe Klatt took an entire take, not just. on college football letting smaller. schools into the tournament, but also. turned his sights to basketball. I think. That always a miscalculation because how. much we all enjoy March Madness and how. many smaller schools do go on a run, but.

what Joe Klatt was saying was echoing. the sentiments of a lot of people about. how in football it's not the same as in. basketball. You know, there is like a. size differences and weight differences. in every single physical combat sport. that there is. Fighting, wrestling, boxing, there's weight differences. because of things. In football, is there. a chance that this could be a weight. class disadvantage for JMU versus Oregon. who has a top four paid roster? Okay, their D-line across the front, all. multi-millionaires. The backups for the.

front four on D-line, all. multi-millionaires. JMU got a tough. group. >> Yep. Ladies and gentlemen, joining us. now is a man whose arms couldn't touch. each other whenever he was coming out. His hands could not touch each other. whenever he was coming out of college. Penn State is a Remington Award winner. His belly got in the way. This man's. arms were too short to be in the NFL. What did he go on to do? Well, he played. 12 years in the NFL, won a Super Bowl, was a player coach as well, like he's. Jackie Moon. Ladies and gentlemen, AQ. Shipley. AQ. AQ, when we talk about these games on.

TrueTV on Saturday, when we talk about. Tulane and we talk about JMU and we talk. about Ole Miss and Oregon and Ole Miss, obviously, we have no idea what they're. going to look like either. We have no. clue what JMU or Ole Miss is going to. look like. Tulane has a couple games. against big schools including Ole Miss. and UTSA. They've lost by 20 plus each. time. JMU, we have no idea cuz they. haven't really played anybody that would. be considered playoff worthy squad, okay? So, we don't know what's going to. happen and maybe JMU shows up. But the. biggest difference is in the trenches, right? That's kind of where these types. of games kind of get handled, which is.

the difference between football and. basketball whenever you're talking about. Cinderella stories and smaller schools. maybe going on a run. It's trenches. I. also think it's depth. I think that was. the biggest thing. Whenever you used to. play max schools, which again, that's. still Division I. It's not it's not. quite the level of. JMU and Tulane, obviously, but whenever. you may maybe they are, but I just think. depth. I think whenever you lose a guy. and now you're on your second guy, that. second guy's also a four-star at the big. schools. Now, that second guy's maybe a. little bit undersized. Let's talk about. what stars are normally for. Stars are.

normally projections of height, weight, athleticism, let alone film. I mean, film has to happen, but the reason why. guys are four or five stars is cuz they. have the dims, the dims, the dims. So, whenever you talk about these big. schools that are spending all this big. money and get all the five stars, four. stars, they're getting the dims. The. opportunity, the potential is obviously. all there, but it's the size that would. be the biggest difference. Like even our. West Virginia team, I would say our West. Virginia team whenever I was lucky. enough to be there and ride the. coattails of a lot of great players, getting off the bus, our size was clear. about, "Hey, who is a team that is, you.

know, SEC school or something like. that?" Now, granted, we were able to. beat them with speed and with tenacity. and with fight and everything like that. And maybe there's a chance that JMU has. the same type of build or Tulane has the. same type of build now than they did in. the regular season whenever they had to. face these types of teams, but it feels. like in the modern era that we're in, the schools with the money, Oregon. certainly one of them. They're not the. only one, but they are certainly one of them. And. they should not be judged because they. have money. They should be celebrated. that they have money. That's a good. thing for them. We all wish we had Uncle.

Phil Knight in as alumni for our. schools, but they got dudes every big. position. They could potentially just. bully this JMU team right off the field, right? Is that not something that very. much worries everybody as we look ahead. to these types of games? >> They could, but this is where I'm going. to go on my little high horse right now. and say that this is where Iowa why I. think what Kirk Ferentz does at Iowa is. one of the best coaching jobs every. single year because he takes the guys. that might be 6'1, 6'2, 6'3 that maybe. an Oregon or an Ole Miss or an SEC or.

another Big Ten school might not look at. because they're not 6'5 and 300 lb. But. guess what? At the end of the day, what. matters is what? It's are you a football. player? It's what you put on tape. And. you can be 6'5. I played with multiple. 6'5s, look like Tarzan, play like Jane. Yeah. Period. Absolutely. >> A million of those players and that's. what I think four and five stars are. You it's it's projections, it's. potential, but when you look at the NFL, those first round picks also, there's a. lot of busts. >> Yep. And potential gets you fired also. Yeah, potential will get you fired, but. these teams have made the playoffs. I. think it's been proven that they're a.

good football team and the people are. good, so maybe it is a little different. than at the beginning of the year, but I. still hey, I because my team that I got. a very lucky to be a part of, the West. Virginia squad representing the Big. East, a lot of guys that got their. scholarships pulled or didn't get pulled. anywhere else, kind of a last chance. type situation for our team. We beat. Georgia. We beat Oklahoma. We beat these. teams. So, literally, I was there. witnessing it, so I will hold out hope, but in the current state of football. that we're in right now, it does feel. like there are some For sure. There are. some differences getting off the bus.

>> the game. Got to play the game. Got to. play every snap. Got to got to. strategize. >> team in the country, too. If you look at. Indiana's roster and their stars. compared to the rest of the top five, they're not on par with all them. Now, this year they are. Last year they were. not. >> Ohio State? >> Well, Ohio State's different animal. >> League of their own. >> That defense for Indiana this year, size. is the biggest difference is they are. bigger and they're faster. >> like as far as like the guys coming out. of high school, like uh Ohio State's. made made up of mostly four and five. stars. You look at Indiana, there's some. three stars, some two stars, there's.

some guys that transferred from other. smaller schools. Like those are. different. So, coaching matters, obviously scheme matters, but obviously. these, you know, we. three three touchdown spread for a. reason. Yeah. >> You got to play the game. And a lot of. people aren't aren't necessarily. thrilled that that is even taking up a. spot in the College Football Playoff. Joe Klatt is a voice that we respect in. college ball. We appreciate his. contributions to college ball, but I. think no matter what network you're in. right now, everybody's kind of saying, "Notre Dame's not in.". Okay? Mhm.

It's not the 12 best teams. It so it's hard. It's hard to buy in, but I would like to hold on hope though. that there is good story and you win. your conference championship and you get. in there. The ACC being ass was really. the That's the big reason why it's on. there. >> Yeah. So, whenever you want to start pointing. blame at whoever you're pointing blame, it's not Tulane, it's not JMU's fault. JMU didn't get an opportunity to really. play anybody either, so they might be. way better than anybody could be. projecting and they might surprise this. Ducks team, which we would certainly be.

pumped up about because chaos is a good. thing for sports. Chaos is good, but if. they get blown out and Tulane gets blown. out, boy, it's going to get real loud. this offseason on the setup of it all. Yeah, and I saw Joe Klatt when he was at. Colorado, they were seven and five, they. played a bowl game against Texas who was. 10 and two and they lost 70 to three, so. I think that's why he has that take. about the Cinderellas, but that's the. whole thing about the stars. The stars, sure, it does matter with the big. schools and the small schools, but if. you're one of the best players at the. small school, you're only going to be. there for two years. So, I look at. Trinidad Windham Chambliss. He didn't.

even go to a Division I school, but then. he gets pulled because he's unbelievable. and now he's in the in the College. Football Playoff. Like that's the. problem with the small schools. The. small schools can't hang on to their. coaches and they can't hang on to their. players and it'll be like that forever. with the NIL, which is a good thing. because the best teams will be better, but it's a bad thing when we don't put. the best teams in the College Football. Playoff. It feels like that will change, but that's the whole thing about the, you know, the whole star [ __ ] Like if. the stars were accurate, then every. single year that top 100 list that ESPN. does for high schools, that would.

reflect four years later or three years. later in the draft process, but that's. exactly why stars are just projections. and that is also why those schools that. hold on to those dudes are almost more. impressive like Iowa. Yeah, and. obviously this conversation has gone. into a wave of you guys attacking like. the the stars angle which I was saying. If this was the beginning of the season. we hadn't seen Oregon already play and. the stars were Tarzan Jane thing, so. we're talking about the end of the. season already and they're in the. playoffs. So, I'm saying four five stars. because. >> No, but the the whole argument was the. fact that JMU doesn't have those guys.

and and they're still a good football. team. Against who is the question? That's my question. Is there still a. good football team against who is the. They got Shot Show. They do have the. Shot Show. They're Jake Paul going into. Anthony Joshua. Good luck. Good luck. And we learned a lot about. Jake Paul. >> He's winning. First round knockout. >> idea he had the Hulkster rolling through. his entire [laughter] body. Exactly. Did. we know that? >> No. No, I saw that and I said, "Okay, well, why am I even going to watch. this?". Jake Paul It's over. did a gator hunt,

killed a 12-ft gator, okay, out in the. in the swamp. He's turning the gator He. found him. He saw him. He goes, "Okay, he is a son of a [ __ ] He's higher than. 12-ft gator." And then he goes up close. to him. He goes, "I'm going to shoot. that thing right between the eyes. This. gator thinks he's tough. It's not. I'm. tougher than him." Takes the gator, turns it into shorts, then he starts to. decorate it and boom, he's summoning. summoning the spirit of Hulkster going. in against Anthony Joshua, obviously a. man who speaks with a British accent. I. am [singing] a real. American. This is what Jake Paul's saying. Is that.

going to be enough to power him over. this big time upset against Anthony. Joshua on Friday night? >> I mean, I'm a little biased, but I I'm. thinking yeah. Like I went from. thinking, "Hey, I hope Jake Paul can. survive. I hope he doesn't get killed by. this guy who we've seen fight before, who is a mountain of a human being, big. time heavyweight." And then I saw this. stuff and I said, "Jake Paul's going to knock him out in. the first round. Never mind going to a. decision. Never mind maybe knocking him. down. He's going to kill him. Yeah, there's a chance. We got Anthony Joshua, Jake Paul Friday night. We got Tulane, Ole Miss. We got JMU, Oregon. Joshua.

won. What's that? Anthony Joshua won. Yeah, I saw I saw Joshua say he's going. to take his soul and break his spirit. Um and it was a pretty uh enlightening. answer. I'm I'm worried about Jake. >> Yeah, with an English accent. And I. think Jake was worried, too, as he was. saying it. They were zooming in on. Jake's face, and I think Jake was doing. a wild That's pretty deep. This guy. seems He's thought about this before. All right. So, a lot of David versus. Goliath type situations this weekend. Going into the holiday season. Let's go. and enjoy it all. We appreciate sports. for always delivering for us. But, if. Tulane and JMU get murdered, it is going. to be very, very, very loud. But, if.

they get a win, that's the specialness. of sports. Maybe they go on a magical. run, a Cinderella-like run that nobody. thinks is possible in a physical sport. as opposed to just a bucket-getting. sport. Joining us now, ladies and. gentlemen, is a man who's a senior NFL. insider for ESPN. A guy who's on top of. every single story, including the one in. down in Miami with the turning of a. tide. Joining us now, Michigan man, Adam. Schefter. Schefty, we appreciate you joining us as. you were going to speak at your high. school as a distinguished honor alumni. and let them know that the future is. bright if you're willing to have four.

phones and be on them at all times. Now, Schefty, let's talk about what happened. in Miami. Tua Tagovailoa no longer the. starter. Quinn Ewers is the new starting. quarterback for the Miami Dolphins. What. does this mean? Is it dawning of a new. day, whole new era? Tua chapter closed. in Miami. Is that how we should read. this? Yeah, I think it's time to start playing. a numbers game, and we've seen this play. out before in Denver with Russell Wilson. in New York with Aaron Rodgers. When we. talk about the teams with the largest. cap hits that absorb the contracts of. quarterbacks that they once thought were.

going to be their future. I think you. have to turn to Denver and the Jets for. instructive ways as to which how they. handled it. The Denver Broncos this. season this season still have $32. million in dead cap money against their. cap for moving on from Russell Wilson. It was initially over $50 million last. year against their cap. It's $32 million. this year against their cap, and they. still have the best record in the AFC.

currently. The Jets moved on with a $49. million cap charge for Aaron Rodgers. Tua Tagovailoa is going to have a $99. million. cap charge if they decide to move on. from him. That would be the single. largest cap charge in NFL history, and. they certainly could spread it out. There are a couple of ways to look at. this. They could release him after June. 1st. They could see if they wind up. trading him in much the way that. the Houston Texans once traded Brock.

Osweiler along with a draft pick to the. Cleveland Browns. I remember the day. that that story happened, and Bill. Polian was on the desk there at ESPN. He's like, "That That can't be. Nobody. ever trades a player and a pick to take. on the contract." But, these are. different times with some larger. contracts, and and this certainly would. be in that category. But, clearly Miami. is going to be moving forward without. Tua one way or another. You don't make. the decision to bench him. and go with a rookie quarterback in. Quinn Ewers without the idea that you're.

essentially separating right now. It's. just a question of how the relationship. officially dissolves and how they move. on from him. But, this was the first. step. in that happening. They have begun the. process of moving on from him now. >> Okay, sounds good. Now, tell us where it. went wrong, you know, cuz a couple years. ago uh they put up 70 on the Denver. Broncos. They were the talk of the town. for offenses. Tua was all in. He gets a. new deal. He immediately goes right to. the group of people that can't afford.

regular tickets, so they go to training. camp, maybe some uh local sick kids come. to training camp and start screaming in. their faces, "Show me the money." Was. this the moment where it all went south? Like when Obviously, he had a couple. concussions, which we were all very. worried for him. The something went bad, though, cuz he got worse at football. Like none of us really understand what. hap- What How did it happen, you think? Where did it go wrong? It's hard to pinpoint. I Again, I think. I think the concussions and the injuries. began to.

play a part in this. I think he's played. through some other injuries here. But, I don't know that he's been fully. healthy, and I don't know all the. injuries that he's been through in the. past have taken a toll. Look, when Mike. McDaniel got hired, he came in there and. resurrected. resurrected the career of Tua Tagovailoa. so much so that they signed him to this. contract that now is going to become a. major sticking point with this. organization. Somewhere along the way, it just he didn't.

get better the way that some people do. And if anything, it's he seemed to. regress. Yes. And now they're at the. point where they've decided to bench him. for Quinn Ewers. I I I can't give you a. specific moment when it went south, but. I think part of it is the injuries. taking their toll. Part of it is him. not. improving and regressing if anything. Um. I don't have that specific answer. I. wish I did, Pat. All right. We. appreciate the hell out of you. Tell. those kids at that high school we said,

"What's up?" and that they should be. proud of their alumni. You and the. director of Monday Night Football, is. that right? Uh yeah, Artie Kemner, who's the. director of Monday Night Football. We. went to the same high school here on. Long Island. I'm literally. I got I will say this, it's a bit. surreal driving up the street um that I. used to go up every single day as a. youth. And I haven't been here in a very. long time. And uh about to pull up to my high. school, which I haven't been to in a. very long time. And we're going to go. speak to all the kids here for alumni. day. Hey, go see those lockers you used. to get stuffed in, Schefter. We.

appreciate you, man. You're the best, ladies and [laughter] gentlemen. You've done good, dude. You've done. good. Ladies and gentlemen, Adam. Schefter. Okay, let's go to you, uh D. Butkus. Obviously, South Florida guy, Dolphins. fan uh throughout your childhood and. will be for the rest of your life. We. talked about Tua and the moving on of. him. Sixth-year quarterback. This isn't. like first year, second year, third. year. This is a sixth-year quarterback. And what we saw in primetime obviously. wasn't fantastic. We showed a couple of. the lowlights there. Him taking sacks. when like a third-year quarterback, second-year quarterback you would hope. would not take sacks. Him knowing what a.

defensive coverage was, what their. offense was, and just throwing a pick. directly to a guy. He should know that. that guy is going to drop into that. particular coverage cuz there's nobody. to threaten him in the flat. We've. talked about this all like amateur-like. mistakes out of a quarterback in his. sixth year who's already been paid. Now, concussions aside, because there is a. chance that that affects everything. Okay. Obviously, that's your brain, and. big part of being quarterback is. thinking and critical analysis and. decision-making and all that stuff. So, we can I guess assume that that. potentially had an effect on it.

>> know for sure, yeah. After they lose. primetime game, he was the last one on. the field. I I mean, he was the last. person on the field like celebrating. I. saw him There's a video of him and Jalen. Ramsey talking. They're like the final. two people almost in the entire stadium. having a good time, catching up, old. teammates. I like that these teammates. like each other. But, a quarterback for. a team in primetime that just got kicked. out of the playoffs. They were. potentially going to go to the playoffs. Being the last one off the field, it's. like that's not what you want your. quarterback to look like. What he was. doing on the field, that's not what you. want your NFL quarterback to look like. So, what happened from year 3-4 to year.

six? Like Is that on coaching? Is that. on Tua? Is that on the building? Like. how do we kind of judge this fall from. grace that Tua Tagovailoa has because it. felt like he was on an actual fast track. Yeah. to maybe a a good legacy whenever. McDaniel got there. And then now here. we're like, "Well, he's gone. It's over. in Miami." It's a wild thing. This. postgame stuff is kind of the icing on. the cake. Um and like you said, you. mentioned players catch up all the time. You saw Rasul Douglas and A-Rod catch up. real quick after the game. And that. happens. I don't expect him to go into a. deep, dark hole after every uh loss.

But, as a quarterback, as the face of. the franchise, after a loss like that. that is that have ended your playoff. hopes, you can't be on the field like. this uh chumming it up. We've seen. former I want to say Burrow and Allen. maybe a couple weeks ago like just in. the tunnel catching up. That's kind of. how you do it, kind of away from the. cameras. But, on the field, we talk. We're not that far removed from him and. him being a very good player. Like he. was the passing rated rating leader in. 2022. 2023 led the league in yards. And. then 2024, just last year, he led the. league in completion percentage. But,

when you're watching the games and. you're watching him play, it's like he's. doing amateur stuff in in moments where. you can't do you can't put your team in. that position. Mike McDaniel, he did a. great job resurrecting his career. And. then this team, this was the team that. we all wrote off. We were all talking. about Mike McDaniel being fired at. midseason, him being on the hot seat. And then you saw this whole team. collectively, even after trading some of. their best pieces, fight. And then for. him to go down like this is ugly, it's. tough. Uh but, Tua Tua still got 54. guaranteed uh next year. So, they they.

got to figure that part out. >> what I'm saying. It looks like he. doesn't really like the after-the-game. thing. It was like, "Does this guy even. care?" Does this guy Does this guy even. care? And then obviously, we've talked. about it. You never want that question. for your quarterback. For your franchise. quarterback who's getting paid, like, "Does this guy even care?" And then. team, like when he walks in a locker. room, there has to be some people in. that locker room that care. Mhm. Somebody cares about the Miami Dolphins. in that locker room. >> say a lot of people. Based on how. they've played this last, you know, month or so, you know, their winning. streak and then even the games before. that when they were competing, I would.

say a lot of those people cared, the. coaches and the players alike. So, it's. it's it's tough to keep uh well, it's. not tough. You're a professional, so you. got to show up and play, you know, 17. games. But, they competed their ass off. weekend and week out. And it wasn't just. the play like we remember throughout the. weeks like seemed like every postgame uh. when he was at the podium, he was saying. some dumb [ __ ] or some wild [ __ ] or. throwing somebody under the bus. So, it's just been a wild wild ride. >> Well, that's the problem. Like he was. throwing people un- under the bus, and. they lost some players for sure. They. traded Jalen Ramsey, who's a Pro Bowler. Christian Wilkins, they didn't resign, which looking back, who knows. But,

their Terron Armstead, starting left. tackle, they paid hundred-plus million. Jalen Ramsey gets traded. Johnny Smith. gets traded. Like there were multiple. different things. But, when McDaniel. flew over, I still remember McDaniel on. the private plane FaceTiming Tua saying, "Hey, we're going to build this this. around you. Like this is your team. I. want He watched the 500 hours of Tua. throwing the ball. Like he was handed. the keys. Now, the whole entire money. thing, that that's another, you know, aspect of this. Ownership's on board. They're They're also done with all his. [ __ ] cuz they're giving him all that.

money. But it's year six. Like look at. the other quarterbacks in his draft. class and what they're doing. Between. Burrow, who, you know, boohoo Burrow, what are you going to do? Hopefully he. figures that out. But Herbert and the. Chargers, they they figured [laughter]. it out once they got the right coach in. there. And then Jalen Hurts. Jalen Hurts. has been to two Super Bowls and he's won. a Super Bowl. And you look at how Jalen. Hurts talks on the podium and acts after. losses. You look at how Burrow handles. it. You look at Justin Herbert who. handles it maybe too much aggressively. Maybe [laughter] he needs to calm down. take a page out of Tua's book instead. and Tua take a page out of his book. But.

it is a bummer, but it's done in Miami. Like maybe he gets a chance. Do you guys. think a team is risking it on him? >> Yeah, that's kind of the interesting. point. AQ Shipley, we know in this. league, you know, there's an opportunity. for anybody basically. And a lot of. buildings think it happened like that. there. It won't happen like that here. We've seen Tua have success. I. referenced it earlier. They hung 70 on. Denver. They were the talk of the NFL. changing what offenses are. That's why. they go and pay Tyreek Hill cuz of how. impressive they wanted that offense to. be, how incredible they wanted that.

offense to be. It was almost the. greatest show on turf again. Like that. is what the Miami Dolphins were just a. few years ago. Did defenses catch up and. they weren't able to adjust? Is it on. scheme? Is it on strategy? And do you. think another team will take a shot on. Tua? Tua would be agreeing that he's a. backup. This would be like a Russell. Wilson type situation where he gets a. million dollars. Or do you think there's. a team that'll go in on Tua being their. starter somewhere, AQ? Somebody will. definitely take a chance on him. I think. I'll start with that. And I think when. you look at what he's done, he's. obviously taken that team to the. postseason twice. He's been very good. Completion percentage, quarterback.

rating, all that stuff. But I always. lean back on the trenches. And Connor. kind of alluded to it already with. Terron Armstead. But they also lost. Robert Hunt. Robert Hunt was one of the. best guards in football. And there's a. reason he got paid when he went to. Carolina. Got paid a boatload of money. And when you lose him and you lose. Terron Armstead, and all of the sudden. you don't have the same protection up. front. You can't run the ball quite like. you used to. You can't have the. protection and get him down the field. because that entire offense is timing. throws. I think that that's kind of. where it went wrong. But he will. definitely get another chance. He's a.

first-round pick, a top-five pick. They. always get a million chances. >> Will he want one? I mean that's kind of. I honestly, this looks like a dude that. after the game thing and then like some. of those decisions and then how the. season's gone and like I guess I. shouldn't have said that. I apologize. I. didn't mean to put anybody in a. position. It's like, does this guy love. ball still? And you could see why he. maybe wouldn't. You. listed all the players that he got. traded away. All their good players kind. of left the team before the season. started. Good players, I'm sorry. They. got a lot of good players. All their. star players were either traded out of.

town or moved along from this Miami. Dolphins. They bring Minkah Fitzpatrick. back. But it was like this team's a. seller before the season even starts. Like what is their expectation? And then. they get through it and then they're. lurking and they're lurking and they're. lurking. And it's like it wasn't because. of Tua why they were lurking. The. offense had changed completely into a. run-first type thing. And then after the. loss and being kicked out of the. playoffs with how he handles after he I. just Does this guy love ball still? And. would that be the first question I guess. any building would be asking him? And if. he was offered a backup role somewhere,

is that something that Tua would want to. be? Or he's getting $54 million. Hey, yeah, I'll do whatever. I'll. basically do whatever. It's a good. situation to to you know reflect and. figure it out. You're still getting 54. coming your way. I think I up until this. point, I don't think anybody would argue. that he he loves football. We saw him, you know, looking like he was, you know, damn near dead on the football field. And then come back. A lot of people were. talking saying, "Hey, he shouldn't come. back. Go go enjoy your family.". When you are benched or you you suffer a.

major injury and you have your, you. know, he's he's been the face of. franchise. When you have that taken away. from you, I'm sure he'll love and. appreciate it even more. But like AQ. said, I'm on the same page. He'll. definitely get an opportunity. Everything that I've seen, I think he. still loves the game of football. And if. we look around the league every year, we. see We always talk about the quarterback. development issue in the NFL how there. just aren't enough good quarterbacks in. the NFL. So there will be another team. that will take a shot. His skill set is. limited when you're talking about. quarterbacks that are making the money.

he's making. I don't think he'll see. another contract like this. I hope I'm. wrong. But you know, he doesn't have the. arm strength. He doesn't have the size, the mobility, and all those things that. we talk about top-tier elite. quarterbacks. But I think he will have. the opportunity. Him with Kevin. O'Connell. For a $1 million contract. just like Russell Wilson. Tua. Tagovailoa. Now nine's coming into his. own. You know what? Nine's coming into. his own. But Tua Tagovailoa in an. offensive system where he doesn't Hey, you just drop back and this is where you. got to put the ball. That was very much.

what he was with McDaniel. So maybe the. offense too, McDaniel, the way he was. drawing it up wasn't the same going. forward where guys weren't as wide ass. open or as much timing routes because. defense caught up to the offenses. Joining us now is a man who might be. able to tell us a little bit more. actually. Dude played eight years in the. NFL, okay? Seven-time All-Pro, seven-time Pro Bowler. Very good. Hall. of Fame nom already, okay? Going to go. into the Hall of Fame. Eight years he. played. He's the type of human who. you know, walks around. He's smartest. human in any room in in our real world,

okay? He would be one of the. representatives that the NFL would put. up for if there was a smart human. contest just and we had to be. represented. This dude would be one of. the first ones that we send out there. Then he puts on his pads, okay? Flips. switch. Complete lunatic. Psycho. Maniac. One of the greatest of all time. And oh yeah, the smarts that he has, he. was able to do it in ball too. He knew. what everybody was going to do all the. time. Which leads to an alt cast called. Monday Night Football Playbook Playbook. with Next Gen Stats, December 22nd. An.

NFL data cast aimed at avid fans which. will complement Monday Night Football. and ESPN NFL postseason slate. So much. like the We got to see. like kind of a trailer or teaser or. whatever it would be. So just like on. Thursday night how they have the. analytics cast where they have circles. and percentages and all that stuff. ESPN. is going to provide that. Shoutout to. Adrenaline which Sean Lee, former Dallas. Cowboys linebacker and Penn State. linebacker, also Western Pennsylvania. soccer star growing up from Upper St. Clair in Pittsburgh. He's one of the.

owners of a company called Adrenaline. which has an AI model that backs with. football players with analytics, with. stats, and everything to be a good. dictionary type situation. So they're. going to team up Sean Lee, Luke Kuechly, analytics in Monday Night Football. Oh yeah, and Dan Orlovsky. Sign me up. >> it's going to be good. Ladies and. gentlemen, Luke Kuechly. I think it's going to be good, Luke. This seems in theory, and I know you big. brain people operate in theory a lot. But in theory, this seems to be an.

incredible thing. I saw you got to do a. little bit of a test run. I know you. call games for Carolina on a rotational. basis. How excited are you for this? And. what do you think people are going to. learn from watching alongside you, Danno, and Field Yates, Luke? Yeah, I think this I think it's a really. cool opportunity. I think it shows you a. lot about you know, what what guys are. thinking when DJ DK Metcalf lines up at. number three, the three position wide. receiver, he's lined up on a linebacker, his percentage of catches going to go.

way up because the matchup on the. linebacker is better. And then we can. just give reasons why. Why does DK. Metcalf line up there? Why does Jonnu. Smith line up out wide at the number one. position rather than in a traditional. tight end location. We're going to try. to explain a lot of the why. Um. the next couple weeks will be five five. games that we'll do. But the reason is. why. Why do they line up in this. formation? Why do they line up in this. defensive set? Why this personnel group? I think a lot is made out of the 13. personnel stuff this year and a lot of.

guys have talked about why they line up. in base versus nickel. I think it's. going to be a really unique opportunity. for us to explain why coaches do certain. things and why certain players line up. in in particular positions. >> I'm going to watch it, steal your [ __ ]. act like it's my own. I appreciate you. That is That should be an absolute. blast. I think that is what the goal. would be for every football fan and. football consumer to get smarter about. the game that we all love. And hearing. from you will certainly be a beautiful. piece of it. Let's talk about the game. that you did there with the Dolphins and. Tua. We just asked and obviously your.

your opinion is certainly. warranted in this particular. conversation. Tua put up 70 points. against the Denver Broncos with that. McDaniel offense whenever he goes down. there. They were using late motions, late shifts. They were doing a lot of. that stuff, kind of innovated, changed. the game. Do you think defensive. coordinators caught up to them? Do you. think Tua just wasn't as sharp as he. used to be? Why do you think we saw. a regression in performance clearly by. McDaniel and Tua down there in Miami? And him getting benched obviously is the.

end of an era of Tua in Miami. What do. you think the future potentially looks. like for him, Luke? So I think you start. with how and why we got to this point in. Miami. And then what do you think the. future looks like for Tua, Luke? I think it was certainly the production. wasn't there. Obviously the Tyreek. injury hurt them. Robert Hunt coming to. Carolina. I know you guys already. referenced that. Same thing with. Armstead. The pieces that they've had in. the past aren't there how they used to. be. Now they kind of rely on Jaylen. Waddle. Achane's obviously a really good. running back. But I think I think a.

little bit is people have caught up to. the motions a little bit, all the. pre-snap shifts, all the pre-snap. motions. That was all very new in the. way they did it. But as people see more. of it and the communication on the. defensive side of the ball catches up, it becomes a little bit easier. But. you know, I think you guys kind of. nailed it a little bit. You watched Tua. after the game. It's like, man, like how. much how serious is he's on there, you. know, talking with Jalen Ramsey. It's. like, man, just just get in the locker. room, be with the guys. If you need to.

talk to Jalen, you can do it behind the. scenes. But like you said, it's it's the. end of an era. They had a great They had. a great run there. But like like you. said, all first-round picks are going to. get another opportunity. He He's. produced at a high level in the past and. there's nothing to say that he can't do. it again. Yeah, it's what was it about. him that made him a great player? His. accuracy, his anticipation whenever they. were humming, what do you think it was? And for you as as a guy that was on. defensive side, what are the most. important things a quarterback to have. that's most lethal against a defense? Well, I think he knew where the ball.

needed to go very quickly and his. accuracy was there and. I think as people kind of caught up to. it and they lost some of the vertical. presence from Tyreek. You know, when you. have those two guys that can burn Tyreek. and Jaylen Waddle, it puts a lot of. stress on defense. But now when you only. have one vertical threat to worry about, the game changes a little bit. But I. think what allowed him to be successful. is he understood that offense, he knew. where the ball needed to go. He played. with great accuracy, anticipation and. just hasn't quite been the same this. year. Okay, let's move away from just.

Tua in Miami even though that's huge. news. I mean, he was the number five. overall pick to the Miami Dolphins. Obviously coming out of Alabama, a lot. of success. Mike McDaniel got hired. there to make Tua great just a couple. years ago. They're going to take on the. biggest dead cap in the history of the. NFL if they decide to cut Tua, which we. all assume will happen. Good luck to him. in the future. We can't wait to see. what's next for all parties there. Speaking of the future, Carolina. Panthers aren't ass. Hey, that's good. news, right? Luke, don't you don't you. think that's good news that they're not. ass? Like why do you think that is? [laughter] Why do you think that is the.

case? It feels like the vibes around the. whole team vastly different than it was. just 2 years ago. Is it as easy as. bringing in Morgan and Canales? Is it. What do you think you felt down there. with this Panthers team? Well, I think they've been very uh. very particular in. how they've built the team, right? So, Bryce as rookie or he got sacked like 53. 53 times. So, all right, what are we. going to do? We got to address the. offensive line. We bring in Damien Lewis. and Robert Hunt in free agency. We have. Austin Corbett and then we have two guys. we drafted at both tackles. So, in one.

off season they fixed the offensive. line. Last year we did we played really. well up front. We've had some injuries. and then last year the issue was we're. not very good on defense. We struggle up. front. We don't have a ton of depth. So, what do they do? You know, Derrick Brown. comes back obviously from injury. They. bring in Terrence Horton. They bring. bring in Bobby Brown. They draft some. guys in the printer Nick Scorton and. Prince Tega Wanogho, who's a Ole Miss. guy. So, we we have a combination of. free agency and then draft draft picks.

And I think the one guy that's helped us. a ton has been Trevon Moehrig. He we. brought him over from the Raiders. He's. he's able to do a little bit of. everything. He can line up as a safety. He can line up at the nickel position. He can line up at will linebacker. He. gives us a ton of versatility on the. defensive side of the ball. So, I think. Dan and Dan and Dave have done a really. good job of saying, "Hey, we need to. control up front." So, first off season. we go draft offensive line, bring. offensive lineman in a free agency. Year. two, we take care of the defense. And. then year three, I think is where they.

are really expecting to kind of take. off. Um do you know the rest of the. 53-man roster? And I'd like to hear. everything about him, please. Could you. uh. Hey, we've got we've got good young. players everywhere. Um. and a lot of it is just you got to grow. with these young guys, right? You know, on the offense. of side of the ball at the skill. position, we've got JT Sanders, second-year tight end. Jaylen Coker's. our slot guy we brought in. He's a he. was an undrafted free agent, but great. size and catch radius, year two. You. know, Leggette, year two. Our.

first-round pick, T Mac, great player, year one. So, it's a lot of that at that. skill position. It's just young guys and. you got to play with young guys when you. have them and sometimes they're great, sometimes you have those those young. mistakes. But as overall, our young guys. at skill position are great dudes. They. play really hard and they're they're. going to continue to learn. >> And they cook your ass. It'd be a milk. check every single time with this guy. right here. That's what they're looking. for out there, Luke. Canales seems to. have a good brain down there for the. offensive system with Bryce Young. Go. ahead, D Butt. Yo, Luke, there's a lot.

of great brains right now on offense. around the league. McVay, Ben Johnson, Shanahan. Uh in your opinion, what's. like the toughest offense to face right. now? What makes like a great play caller. in your opinion? I think the ability to set plays up, right? So, they're going to show you a. look. They're going to have two or three. run plays off that look and they're. going to have two or three pass plays. off that look. And I think. you know, there's. the Shanahan McVay that pre-snap motion, that pre-snap shift, I think is really. good. And just a good example of that.

is, you know, McVay will line up or. Shanahan will line up Kittle on one side. of the offensive line and then line up. Hueston Texans on the other side of the. offense line. And those guys are kind of. interchangeable. So, there's there's. really no run tell, there's no pass. tell. They can check it at the line of. scrimmage and then they start shifting. and motioning and it goes from 2x2 to. 3x1 pre-snap. And then on the snap, there's a guy coming back across the. formation. So, they're going to give you. so many looks pre-snap. They're going to. shift guys. They're going to move guys.

as the ball gets snapped. And all that. does to the defense is it gets you. moving sideways pre-snap. It gets your. communication off. Maybe it messes with. safety rotation. And then the ball gets. snapped, your feet aren't set, you're. not where you need to be, your eyes are. in the wrong spot. So, then that half. second that it takes you to get to where. you need to be, they've got angles on. you in the run game, Kittle's run past. you. They just do a great job of window. dressing and showing you stuff and then. boom, snap the ball and it's on you. right now. Okay, so let's continue this. conversation about what you just.

basically alluded to there. You go from. 2x2 to 3x1. Two close, CLOSE, CLOSE. THEN THE QUARTERBACK'S ALSO APPLE APPLE. TO THE SECOND play into the third. different. formation that they were in. But you. were a little bit different on defensive. side. Go ahead, AQ. Yeah, Luke, I. remember game planning for you when you. were in Carolina and it was always when. you guys would go double A gap, we would. always have to like dummy point just to. try and get you off cuz you were so good. at switching the blitzes, understanding. the protection and getting the right.

check up. How much power and how much. freedom did you have when you were doing. that? Or was that more part of the call. and part of the game plan? A lot of it was just part of what we. were trying to do. And I think Sean. McDermott was our coordinator for a long. time in Carolina. He did a really good job of saying, "Hey, what do you guys like doing? What. do you feel comfortable with?" And then. he'd go into the game and say, "Hey, what are you guys seeing and hearing on. the field?" And then we're able to kind. of switch stuff up during the game based. on what we saw. Thomas Davis was really.

good at it, too. So, we had our set. rules and then inside of those rules we. had the ability to try to figure out, "Hey, if we're double mugged and the. center comes to me, Thomas, you take. over the blitz, right?" Then it's, you. know, could be a one-on-one on the. running back. Boom. If they turn to. Thomas, then Luke, you go blitz and have. a one-on-one at the running back. So, we. were just always trying to find ways. within the defense, within the system to. find the best opportunity to create an. advantage for us. Um was there anybody. that you knew.

inside and out and you just couldn't. give away that you knew them inside out? Like you almost know it too good. We. don't want them to know that we know it. too good. So, is there a couple plays. where maybe you like, "Oh, you got me on. that one." Like you kind of do there in. early in the game? Like how did you play. once you got a really good beat on. somebody, which in our eyes, in the way. you are talked about by literally. everybody is you had a good beat on. everybody. But is there anybody that you. had like locked in very early that you. didn't want to give away, if that makes. sense or not? Almost play poker with?

Yeah, the the most difficult group was. always the Saints with with Brees and. Sean Payton because [clears throat]. my whole time in Carolina, all 8 years, it was Drew Brees and Sean Payton. So, they knew us, we knew them. Our system. on defense, we had three coordinators. McDermott left and then Steve Wilks went. to Arizona and then we had Eric. Washington my last year. Our system was. very similar year in and year out. Their. system was very similar year in and year. out. So, it was always within that game. you were always thinking, "Why are they. showing me this look right now? What is.

this look meant to show me that, you. know, and then they're going to come. back to it in the second half and run. something off of it." So, when we'd come. to the sideline, we'd be like, "All. right, this is the formation, this is. the look, this is the play that they. ran." And then you kind of had a look at. it from their perspective, an offensive. perspective, and say, "Hey, what else. can they do from this set that would. give us issues?" So, that was kind of. always the game within the game of, "All. right, this is what it looked like in. the first quarter. This is what it's. going to look like in the second. quarter. From their perspective, where.

else can they attack us?" And that's. kind of what we looked at. >> How about Peyton Manning told Ray Lewis. that they had 12? It's like one of the. it's a legendary clip where he's like, "You got 12, Ray. You got 12, Ray. You. got 12." And you see Ray like. it calls a timeout and they actually. they actually do have 12 for whatever, you know. And Peyton Ray obviously. played against each other a lot. They. have a lot of respect for each other. And I don't know why Peyton told him at. that point other than just maybe to [ __ ]. talk Ray that he Alpha move. Hey, I I am.

in there. But for you, whenever it came. to understanding what the other team was. going to do, and when did Was that film. study? You talked about it being live in. there. And is there anybody that you. felt bad for? Was there anybody that. after the game you were like, "Hey, you. guys literally the most predictable team. >> [laughter]. >> in the history of football." Like they. they you need to maybe work on some. stuff in that entire thing. Did anybody. ever ask you about that? Like, "Hey, what are our giveaways to you?" Would. you ever give that up? Like can you go. behind the scenes a little bit as being. known as the Nostradamus of football and.

how offensive teams would treat. relationship with you? Yeah, I think I always felt like in. Carolina our coaches did a great job of. preparation. Hey, these are top run. formations, these are top sets. This is. where they're trying to get to. And then. we would always talk about within our. defense what stresses us. Where are the. natural stressors are they that that we. have in our defense? And played a lot. of, you know, cover three, single high. defense. We brought very some slot. pressures. Where are the issues in that.

defense? So, you'd always have that in. the back of your mind. And then the the. film study to me was a huge advantage. You guys know how it is. You always look. to find an advantage before the game. starts and for me the film study was. something that I really enjoyed and if. you could steal three or four plays. during a game just based on what you've. watched, I think it's super helpful and. then also the more you watch in the. game, you know, in the NFL. the more you get a feel for how offenses.

are trying to attack teams and you that. kind of carries over from say we're. playing Shanahan one week and then we go. play, you know, McVay and they're the. same kind of a defense. Where did. Shanahan give us issues? Because you. know, McVay went and watched that tape. and he's going to have something that's. similar to that. So, I think we did a. great job um in the meeting rooms with. the coaches. We took practice very. seriously. We wanted to get things. right. We had a bunch of older guys on. our team that loved practice and love. doing things right and then we.

transitioned it to the film room after. practice and you kind of put all three. of those together and you roll it out. for the game and you feel pretty good. about it. >> December 22nd Monday Night Football. Playbook with Next Gen Stats. Luke. Kuechly will be live in real time. telling you exactly what every other. team's going to do alongside an AI. model. That was uh one of the founders. is Shawn Lee, former NFL linebacker and. he's going to make a bazillion dollars. off of this. I mean, if he's in the. middle of an AI company that is now.

sponsoring a Monday Night Football. simul. Congrats, Shawn. Congrats, Shawn. Hey, Shawn, congratulations to you as well, Shawn. >> Will you be calling out plays, Luke? >> Yeah, what's the Is it a Romo thing or? Yeah, how is that going to go? That's what we're That's That's what's. going to be exciting. I think a lot of. it will be. you you you like to. >> it, Luke? Do you still got it or no? I. guess we got to I guess we got to tune. in next week and see what's going on. It'll be It'll be fun. I I think I'm. looking forward to it most is I'll talk. defensive perspective and then Orlovsky. will have his side and we'll kind of I'm.

sure there's going to be some back and. forth on Hey, this is what Dan sees. This is what I see. Hey, it's third and. seven, you know, in the minus side of. the field. What's the defensive. perspective here? You know, everyone. talks about Pat, you know about this. On. the plus side of the field, are we. trying to bump a team out of field goal. range? What's the approach? You know, is. third and seven blitz package different. than a third [clears throat] and three. blitz package? I think that's all stuff. that we're going to try to figure out. and talk about during the game. Yeah, I. can't wait to hear it. And Dan Orlovsky,

now he needs to tighten up here over the. next couple of. >> Yeah. What's today's date? December. 17th. This is on 20 This is Monday. Night. >> Dan's ready. He needs to be. I mean, he. There's a chance he get exposed out. there, Dan Orlovsky. You got Luke. Kuechly [laughter] on the other side. I. mean, there is a chance. He's got an AI. model working against him potentially. and a human AI in Luke Kuechly. That. Dan Orlovsky's the only non-AI out. there. Field Yates is uh fantasy. football AI, right? Luke Kuechly is. defensive football AI, right? I think if. we were to get And then actual AI model.

founded by Shawn Lee. Okay, so We got. Solly and Wisniewski and Orlovsky coming. in. Exactly. We was just doing Fun Day. [laughter] Monsters Inc. LAST WEEK. DAN! FRINGE, BABY. >> DAN, TIGHTEN IT UP, DAN. >> GOOD LUCK, DAN. TIGHTEN IT UP, DAN. We. need you out there. Dan might also need. to be speaking to the humans that are. watching that that aren't specifically. dialed in to every single nose about. number three in the tray over there. But. I am excited to kind of uh learn a lot. more about ball, especially through your. eyes. We're all such massive fans of. yours and obviously your defense was a. massive piece of making it to the Super.

Bowl that year. Feels like the cyclality. word you would tell me, I don't know. Boston College guy. This the cyclality. in the cyclicalness in the cyclic. cyclical nature. >> of football at Yeah, you got it. Just. use that in the [ __ ] show. >> [laughter]. >> It feels like we have come back to a. very physical style and maybe defense Go. ahead, Ty. Yeah, Luke, as we've been. looking at the playoff picture over the. last several weeks, it's become very. apparent that there's maybe like four. teams on both the NFC and AFC who could.

win the Super BOWL. >> PAUSE. HOLD ON ONE SECOND. PUT IT UP, PLEASE. Put it up. YOU CAN USE IT, BUDDY. BOTH DAY. YOU CAN use it. Thank. you. It's a word. Go ahead, Ty. And like. uh all eight of those teams, they all. have unbelievable defenses and we had. Bruce Arians on yesterday and asked him. that question and he basically said like. that's important, but if you don't have. a quarterback who can score 30 points a. game in the playoffs, it doesn't mean. [ __ ] You're not going to win a Super. Bowl. But would you be surprised if. we're going back to that uh that like.

maybe, you know, like a 2000 Ravens. where if you have a truly elite defense. and it's the best part of your team, then you don't necessarily need like a. Josh Allen or one of those top five QBs. in order to win a Super Bowl. Well, I think if you talk to anybody in. the AFC, the last team that they want to. play right now is the Houston Texans. I. mean, that that defense has played. extremely well. DeMeco Ryans or DeMeco. has those guys rolling um and I think. they're going to keep getting better on. offense. C.J. Stroud probably hasn't had. the year that he's wanted, but they're.

they're big, they can run. Nico Collins. is a really good football player. So, I. think the defense is certainly play a. role in this, but I think, you know, I don't disagree. I think having guys. like Josh Allen always gives you an. opportunity to win games, but on that. AFC, you got the Broncos and you got the. Texans. Those defenses are really dag on. good. Yeah, here's what the current. playoff picture looks like and to your. point about the Houston Texans, they. could be the seven seed, they could end. up. AFC South champion. I mean, there's a. chance they have to take on anybody, but.

if it's Patriots-Texans, obviously Drake Maye and the Patriots. have been successful. Trivia on. Henderson has done his thing, but the. Houston Texans make everybody's offense. look like ass. They They literally they. bring the boo birds out every single. time they are playing in somebody else's. stadium because of how great they are. So, if you have an elite quarterback, I. guess that's the only way you can really. beat them like Josh Allen just did. coming back from being down 21. So, I. guess Bruce Arians' point is valid, but. it used to be like you just need a. defense that's like uh uh able to get a. stop whenever you need it. Now it feels.

like some of these defenses are full. game. pounding lower score type games. Is that. what the playoffs look like? I don't. know. I'll be excited to see what the. fan reaction will be if it is a. defensive dominant run to the Super Bowl. for any of these squads. We can't wait. to watch it. Good representatives in the. AFC and the NFC. Hey, we are in a good. place when it comes to ball. Up into the. right everything and that starts. tomorrow night. Thursday Night Football, Rams and Seahawks. And then Monday. Night, Colts versus Niners. And uh.

that'll have a playbook with Next Gen. Stats available alongside of it with. Luke Kuechly's big ass brain breaking it. all down. Philip Rivers? Yeah. Luke, you think You think Phil. Rivers is going to be predictable, Luke? Yeah, [ __ ] right. Okay, good luck. You might You might get it all wrong out. there, brother. Okay, you might have no. shot. We'll have it on in the uh in the. suite. We will have it audio all the way. up so we sound smart whenever we're. watching and I'll be excited for you to. continue to add to this world of. analytics while also using ball. Now, on.

that point, last question. Go ahead, Con. Man. >> Yeah, Luke, from Massachusetts. Last. time I went to a BC football game, you. were playing on the field. Thank you for. your service and thank you for kind of. showing me I will never be successful at. playing college football because of how. good you were. But looking at the. analytics and the stats, you know, this. is what your Monday Night Football is. centered around. How do you feel about. NFL coaches kind of centering their. decision-making around statistics? It. feels like it's going to be part of. football no matter what. Analytics, you. know, they do help, but sometimes they.

they hurt you more than they help you. How do you feel about that entire thing. really with coaches using it to decide. whether to go for fourth down, to punt. the ball, those types of things? Well, I think I think the advantage is. when you trust the numbers. If you're. going to be an analytics guy, the best. way to to be is to say, "Hey, every time. it says go, we go. Every time it says. don't go, we don't go." I think when you. get in trouble is when you're like you. get emotion gets involved into the. decision and you say, "Hey, it's a it's. a strong strong go for it. Hey, we're.

not feeling it. The momentum's not. there. Our guys aren't rolling in the. right direction." I think in order to be. successful over time using the analytics. and that's ultimately the goal of why. you use analytics. It's not for the. isolated time. It's for Hey, over the. course of the season, if we listen to. what the numbers are going to say, we're. going to have an advantage over teams. that don't. That's the best way to do it. and the worst way to do it is to kind of. pick and choose and get emotional and. when you get emotional, things things. don't work out and and the models don't.

work the way they're supposed to. Oh, no. I think the numbers I think they got. a Luke. That doesn't sound like you. >> got Olsen, right? No, he's all about the. numbers. It's the plays. It's him and It's HIM. AND GREG VERSUS JJ VERSUS FOOTBALL. You. know, I mean, we don't love it. You know, he's doing. an analytics now show. >> [laughter]. >> Sounds like black magic. >> hates ball. >> HEY, DON'T FORGET BALL, LUKE. PLEASE. DON'T FORGET THAT THESE ARE HUMANS. I. KNOW YOU'RE NOT ONE. HUH? It's still. ball. You asked me the question about. analytics and you just got to You got to. trust it. If you're an analytics guy,

you got to trust it and take the emotion. out of it. Didn't say when I coached. seventh and eighth grade football, that's how we do it. We We lean a little. bit more into emotion, but. >> [laughter]. >> for the for the end They would go I'm. coming back full circle. >> BALL GUY. YEAH, PUSH COMES TO SHOVE, WE. KNOW WHAT YOU'LL DO. YEAH, WHATEVER YOU. need to win. With your big brain, I need you to help. me here. And it doesn't look like you. eat any of these. Last night, the only. sweets that were available at my house. was this box of chocolates. I went 0 for. 3. I went 0 for 3. And a lot of people. tell me, "You need to look at the legend. to know what they are." There was no. legend on this box, okay? This was an.

actual box of chocolates. You never know. what you're going to get. I went 0 for. 3. The first three. All three ass ones. You know that raspberry one that's in. there? Some other ass one, some other. ass one. Which one would you go with. next here, Luke, just using your brain. and ability to predict things if you had. to look at this particular box of. chocolates? Reading the legend's like. reading instructions. You just You don't. do it. You just go in there and dig in. and find the one that looks the best. I. mean, the first one that grabs my eye is. that one with the white icing on top of.

it. The drizzle or the sprinkle? The drizzle one. That one looks good to. me. It looks like it would have a little. crunch. Might have like a caramel. caramel filling on the inside. That one. looks pretty That was not caramel, Luke. That's not it. Yeah, it might be COOKING. GREASE, LUKE. WATCH FILM, YOU DON'T NEED SWEETS, DUDE. WE APPRECIATE [laughter] IT. WE WILL SEE. YOU on Monday night. We appreciate the. hell out of you. Thank you for your. service to ball. You're the man. Thanks, guys. Ladies and gentlemen, Luke, keep playing. >> Yeah, Luke. That drizzle one has the the soft inside. cream that's good. That's probably the. fourth worst one in that thing. Yeah,

he's never eaten out of one of those. boxes before because in the I don't know. 100 years they've been doing that, that. one with the white drizzle on top has. never had caramel inside of it once. >> Yeah, and I didn't select it because I. knew there was probably some ass in. there. But I'm going to say they're. disguising these ones pretty good now. I. thought I had the peanut one. Peanut. cluster? Multiple times. And it was. something vastly different. Want a couple of those. >> Nightmare. So then I go the next one. Like I'm going to get this one, raspberry inside. That did not You used. to look different. >> Those ones are deceiving though. If if.

you don't have the legend, those will. cuz those sometimes do look like they. have caramel in the center. >> Oh for three. >> That's better. That's tough. That's. tough. I I. Yeah, put put the top back on. Done with. this thing. >> Yeah, that's why I don't like assortment. of things. I hate random [ __ ] I like to. know exactly what I'm getting. I want 12. of the same thing. >> I want Reese's. All of them. That's what I want. But I. want to let you know the reality of the. situation was I had that thing staring. at me. And I opened it and boy, I did. one of these. Blew the new healer dog running into my.

leg. I'm trying to figure this thing. out. Please sit. I'll give you one. Can't. This thing probably could just. eat that whole thing of chocolate and. survive. This thing's a house horse. Okay, it's out of rage. But he was. laughing at me, too. As I was in the middle of them. I'm. like, you need to get off my ass. >> Dogs still can't eat chocolate? No. No, he got to No, never. >> He got to evolve. Come on. It's like the. Achilles It's the Achilles for dogs. >> a chew. Even if this thing's a horse, which it clearly is. Be a friend, tell a. friend something nice. It might change. their life. We'll see you on the other. side. Goodbye.

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another Super Bowl. Leading a Rams team. that was supposed to be in the middle of. a turnover. Heading up to Seattle to. take on a brand new Seahawks culture. Brought to it BY MCDANEL OR MCDONALD. I'M SORRY, not McDanel. McDanel just. fired his quarterback. McDonald up there. in Seattle with Sam Darnold leading the. way on the offensive side with a run. game and a defense that is obviously. incredible. Seattle and the 12s will be. on display. 5:15 local time. We got to. remember that. >> Yeah. Okay? So every time we have. primetime game, we're obviously excited.

People are out of work, have been out of. work, have a chance to maybe even go. home, get changed, head to stadium. Thursday, 5:15 local time. Okay? So. that's an interesting kind of dynamic. for this. They'll figure it out. They're. a great fan base. But I'm excited to see. Seattle on full display, especially in a. divisional rivalry game for the number. one and winning of the division. basically. So tomorrow should be. special. That's what week 16 will kick. off with in the NFL. And then the. college football, we got the playoffs, baby. Boom. We got the playoffs.

Friday, it's Oklahoma. We got a college. game day, I believe, 2 hours, 6:00 to. 8:00 live from Oklahoma as Alabama will. travel to take on the Sooners. Cannot. wait for this particular match-up. Think. it's going to be a beautiful one. Bama. favored by 1 and 1/2 on the road. And. then we'll travel down to College. Station. College Game Day will be 9:00. to noon. Noon kickoff as A&M hosts the. Miami Hurricanes. And then at 3:30 on. truTV, Tulane will take on Ole Miss and. JMU will finish out the day taking on. Oregon in UTSA on truTV as 21-point.

underdogs. LIVE FROM HAMMER DOWN. TOUCHDOWN. AP TOP BAMA favored in. Oklahoma. A&M favored by three. Any. surprises on those numbers? And what are. you looking forward to most this first. weekend of the college football playoff? >> No, I I don't think there's any. surprises in in those first two games as. far as the number or any game as far as. the number is concerned. Bama outgained. Oklahoma in that first game. It was Now, it was at Alabama by 200 yards. They. kind of dominated the game, but there. was a pick-six for Oklahoma's defense.

and they forced two fumbles. That was. kind of the story of the game in that. one. The Oklahoma defense got the better. of it as far as the turnovers were. concerned. Um. So like yes, Alabama should be favored, but also Alabama has kind of played like. [ __ ] since then. They They had a close. one against Auburn. They obviously got. blown out in the SEC Championship. against Georgia. And Oklahoma's had some. time to potentially get their offense. fixed and and get back to kind of what. they were at the beginning of the. season. So that was kind of a coin flip. and the and the line shows that. And.

then when you go to A&M in Miami, when you go to minus three, like when. you're looking at sports books and. numbers, the home field advantage is. normally around two and a half to three. points. So there if you if you want to. look at it like that, they kind of have. these two teams as even, which is is. kind of what everyone else thinks as as. well. They are very evenly matched. They. have They both have incredible D-lines. They both have incredible offensive. lines. And they have playmakers on the. outside on both sides of the ball. So. that one kind of has those two teams. rated evenly, which which I I don't.

disagree with that all. Then obviously. you have the two big spreads between the. the more dominant teams versus the Group. of Five teams. Tulane plus 17 and 1/2 we. like? No. Really? They lost to UTSA. So So like. here's the thing with JMU and Tulane, okay? Listen, and the Roadrunners are very, very good at home. I think we're holding. too much. We're I think we're we're. we're doing Tulane a disservice or the. Roadrunners a disservice with that. But. >> [laughter]. >> I don't see the Roadrunners in the first. weekend of college football playoff, but. hey, maybe they.

maybe they should be. Something to think. about. Especially with how bad they beat the. hell out of the number 11 team in the. country in the college football playoff. But JMU like statistically is top 10 in. basically every single stat on defense. Their defense has been dominant. Their. offense is number five in the country in. rushing at like 245, 250 yards a game, but their strength of schedule is 121st. So, they haven't really done it against. so, but at least. they dominate. Tulane. still not a great schedule and their.

stats aren't great either. So, And their. coach what is already in Florida? Yeah, yeah, at halftime he's leaving. No, well, No, halftime, yeah. That dude. is a great job. He's sleeping two hours. He's doing his job at both places. He. donated $100,000 back to Tulane. Very nice of him. Him putting the. Florida hat on at halftime to call some. recruits and then putting the Tulane. visor back on for the second half. I mean, that's just multitasking to a T. and I appreciate the fact that he's. still doing it with Tulane and they're. still trying to go for it, but that dude. definitely only cares about what. Florida's got going on next Yeah, he.

knows he can't win it all. JMU's the. same. JMU's head coach is at going UCLA. He was He was actually just on Jim Rome. I think it was either yesterday or two. days ago and I don't know if there was. one question about JMU. They're playing. in a playoff game on Friday. He was just. getting. >> [laughter]. >> hammered about UCLA. Saturday, they're. playing Saturday. Who cares what it. What's that? >> They better enjoy it cuz it's going to. be a long road getting there from UCLA. Bring back to your shot to shine. Yeah, Rose Bowl is obviously awesome, but I.

the Big 10's going to be a tough road to. get to the college football playoff. So, maybe he should enjoy every moment there. with JMU and also maybe this isn't it. for JMU. Boys look big, looked athletic. >> They hired a great new head coach. Is he coaching this weekend? No, Billy. Napier I assume he's going to be on the. sidelines though. Yeah, he's going there. for a year. And then and then he's going. somewhere else. No, we don't know if. that's true with Billy Napier, but maybe. there's a chance that it happens. That's. uh Ladies and gentlemen, that's AP Town. Thank you for. Joining us now is a man who's won a. college football national championship.

A guy who'll be on the sideline down. there at College Station calling. for the field pass ESPN. People thought. that was a giveaway. Yeah. A lot of people at Texas A&M sending me. messages and tweets and stuff like that. saying. "Hey, for your field pass, me and my. husband have been diehard Texas A&M. Aggie fans. We would love to stand on. the sideline with you." As if it was. like a giveaway. And I want to tell them. you can be on sideline with us just. through ESPN2. We will be on in the. simulcast, but the field pass for some.

reason I think got. I don't know if it got on a message. board or something, but there was an. abundance of people that were like "Hey, how do I win the field pass? Me and my. friend have obviously been diehards. Aggies. Used to be a yell leader 20. years ago looking to get back." Like all. those types of things. So, we will not. be having anybody else with us as. credentials are actually very difficult. to get. You have to have very important. jobs to get down there. And obviously whenever you're standing. on the sideline trying not to ruin a. game and being [ __ ] who are. incredibly lucky, that is deemed.

acceptable I guess and we are confused. by it as well, but we will be down there. and we are very thankful for it. Not. only us down there, it'll also be ladies. and gentlemen, Super Bowl champion, all-time leading tackler for the Green. Bay Packers AJ Hawk. Hawk, you're just a few days from. college football playoff field pass, brother. This is a great time of year. How are you feeling just a few days out? I'm feeling great. I think it's going to. be awesome. I think the whole college. football playoffs will be great, but. this game is kind of a a marquee matchup. I think in this first round. I'm looking. forward. Hopefully there is a you know, a random couple there that gets to stand.

there and stare at us through the the. simulcast. Yeah, and maybe there will be. and there'll be somebody that'll be. holding a monitor and that person will. just be uh Out to lunch. Just no idea. what's going [laughter] on. Has never. seen football before. Has no idea what. we're doing there, but certainly getting. a paycheck for them being there and. we're appreciative of them getting a. job, but there will be a a little. self-awareness class that'll be. happening throughout the entire first. quarter. We assume Spanks will be doing. his thing. Please. >> Dropping in from the uprights onto our. head telling us we need to back up cuz. he's got a shot that needs to be on TV.

for 14 seconds. He said you know, that'll all happen. This has kind of become a part of the. field pass process, but we're incredibly. lucky to do it. We're very thankful for. the folks from Texas A&M for being as. hospitable as they have been and also. Mario Cristobal in Miami. We're going to. production meeting. We're getting a chance to talk to the. coaches before calling the game. Let's. go. That has never happened before. AJ, this is a big deal, AJ. This is a very. big deal. If you remember we had me and. you had a production meeting years ago. with Matt Rhule when he was at Baylor. and I was That was a fun experience. So, yeah, I'm excited to talk to these.

coaches. Yeah, I'm excited to get a. little bit of a heads up on what we. should be looking for as opposed to just. getting dropped in there blind without. being able to see anybody's names or. numbers or anything like that. So, should be a fun time, fun experience and. in theory the show should get better. because of this. It should. I love the. insight we're going to get from these. coaches. I got some good questions to. ask. I think just one question probably. for each of us. We promised them a. six-minute call. So, Yeah, at least so. let's make sure we're not taking a lot. of their time, but yeah, that's a. classic "Hey, just need you know, somebody will come up and try to pitch. something in life and they'll say I just.

need five minutes of your time." They're. way too much. Never expect five minutes from anybody's. time. That is crazy number to say. 90. seconds sounds amazing. That's going to. be five seconds or five minutes, probably six minutes, but you need to. get in the door with 90 seconds. That's. what we did with these production. meetings. "Hey, we just need five. minutes. Just five minutes. Can we just. get a little bit of a thing?" That. obviously is going to creep into eight, nine, maybe 10, but we can't be getting. to 15. That would be egregious. So, we. just got to know that there is a sliding. window of amount of time that they're. expecting and it's not a lot. We can.

steal a few on the back end, but we need. to be respectful of the time and Debot, you getting more questions than the rest. of us definitely. you'll be in front of the line. I just. need one. Just one good one for No, no, but you go front line and then we'll go. back, but if if there's another rep, you'll be in the front of the line. You. know, like off-season workouts, the terrible workouts. What part of the. line you're in is obviously a massive. piece of the amount of reps that you're. going to get. So, you don't want to be. too obvious that you're trying to get to. the back of the line. So, you try to. sneak in maybe two from the end cuz they. are going to attack the people that are.

at the back and put them into the front. cuz that's an extra rep. You see if this. is a three-minute drill and there's. certain amount, the people at the front. of the line are going to get the extra. until the time runs out. So, I would I. learned that early. I was in front of. the line early cuz I wanted to be a guy, you know. I'll go first freshman. Set the tone. Why is everybody Why is everybody so. yeah, Pat, go ahead. And then I get. through. Oh my god. And then I got to go again. Oh, no, bad idea. So, next year. sophomore year, obviously we don't want. to go all the way to the back. I have I. played poker since you know, I'm 10.

years old. We can't be overselling this. thing. So, you go from two you know, from the end, get in there and then all. of a sudden classic next year, Rich Rod. grabs the entire back line, puts them up. in the front, says congratulations and. now guess who's. smarter than everybody. I felt like a. genius. Next year, did the same thing. Fun game. He took the entire back half. of the line, put [laughter] it up in the. front half of the line. So, you know, you're always evolving, always changing, but you certainly can be front of line. whenever it comes to questions so that.

if we get to the front and we steal. another minute or two, you can get it. because your insight during the game is. special. Same with you, AJ. I think we. try to provide actual ball knowledge. while calling the game and following the. game while providing something. different. I do think we try that and I. think we've kind of gotten to the point. where we kind of know it, Ty. Yeah, I. think so. I mean, we at this point how. many of these have we've done? You know, it's been more that we've been doing. this for several years now and I think. that's just natural with Like you Like. you mentioned this like a couple weeks. ago, the first time you do it it's like. "Okay." When you're on the sideline we. got we got to follow the ball. So, like.

you you, AJ and Debot are just like kind. of just walking around the perimeter of. the entire field and then you realize. like "Oh, I just missed basically. everything that happened on that drive. trying to see everything." So, we got. our spots, you know, like everyone kind. of knows especially I think me, Digs and. Connor like we kind of know which spots. are that hey, this is a good good. portion for you to maybe have something, you know, whereas at the start it's kind. of just like. you know, we're just trying to get our. feet wet here and find out where we fit. in and at this point I think like we.

kind of know how this experience is. supposed to go. >> And we don't want to do a disservice to. ball. Right. We understand we're having. an opportunity that we should not have. on that sideline. We're on ESPN2 for a. college football playoff game and we're. standing on the field in front of a. hundred How many How many people, Tone, at Kyle Field down there? 110's the. record. Okay, playoff game. Let's assume it'll. be 110,000 people. We very much. understand we're not supposed to be. there and we're very grateful for the. opportunity to provide an alternative to. the main broadcast. Obviously Kirk. Herbstreit Is it No, it's McDonough I.

think, right? Cuz I think Herbie's. calling Oklahoma. The night before. Alabama. Yes, so it'd probably be. McDonough and McElroy. Okay, so. McDonough and McElroy will be on the. call. We're on ESPN2. Just an. alternative, you know, if you want to. come hang with us, we will certainly be. grateful and. this is one of the really, really, really, really cool parts. of licensing the show through ESPN and. having access to this. So, we're very, very thankful for the opportunity. Also, shout out to. and Omaha who had this slot and then say. "Hey, do you want this slot now?" Yeah,

absolutely. Thank you so much. We We'll. just worry about this other one over. here. You got it. At the beginning of us. having this alt-cast deal, we did a couple in here. It was okay. It was okay. I mean, Mississippi State. Alabama. 31-nothing. That That wasn't okay when. we just threw the ball around and. >> a world record. >> [laughter]. >> Most completions during a blowout. football game in the history of. television I would say. So, we didn't We. didn't have it and we felt bad that we. had the opportunity and it was ass. The.

show was ass. Like we did not think we. it was good for ball. Once again, lucky. to have these opportunities. Let's. provide something for the good of ball. at least a little bit even though I'm. not everybody's cup of tea so I ruin it. for the rest of the crew to even have an. opportunity because I'm a part of some. things, but we do like to at least add. and provide. The first few were bad. Soon as we got on the sideline And like. this is this is the one that we're. supposed to be. Mostly me, ex-punter, kicker. I mean, I've been on sideline. watching football a long time. Like that. is literally what my job was for a long.

time. And then AJ and D But get a chance. to feel it and see it. And then the boys. getting a chance to experience something. that they could never experience. Their. natural brains and talent is going to. point out things. So I think we've got. something that is good for ball as an. alternative. And uh we're different than. all the other alt casts. Just like Luke. Kuechly and Dan Orlovsky and Field. Yates, it's different than everything. else. I'm excited to see how comes. together. >> going to say don't definitely don't be. expecting uh the Monday Night Football. Playbook with Next Gen Stats if you're. coming to watch uh our alt cast on. Saturday. >> Yeah, cuz we we have no idea Well, we.

would like to stress this again so you. give us a little bit of grace whenever. we're doing it. I am calling. play-by-play for these games. I have no. idea if it was a 5-yard gain or 2-yard. loss from where we are sitting, which is. a pretty important thing, especially. whenever it's third down or fourth down. So there is a little bit of that where. I'm just watching Jumbotron trying to. figure out what the hell happens. But. other than that, we think we provide a. pretty good vibe. So we hope you'll come. hang with us. And shout to Texas A&M. I. think we're getting. I think we're getting the full Aggie. treat. >> Yeah, it's going to be sweet. Good match. up, too. Good match. But obviously that.

matters. It'd been a good game. We've. had the opportunity to be on the. sideline of some great games and. obviously some shite games. I expect. this one to be a banger. Yeah, and JJ. Watt has no idea what it's like to do. this out on television for 25 minutes, you know, cuz the game. uh is 30 to nothing in the fourth. quarter. There's still 3 minutes left in. that game. There's still another 25. minutes. And that's what we decided to. do just basically for the entirety. So. now we're on sideline. So look how far. we've come. It's good time to catch up. with this uh alt cast thing that we've. been doing because this one's much.

better than the alternative. Joining us. now is a man who's in the booth. Must be. nice. With a spotter. Must be nice. With. some food. Must be nice. An absolute. legend who's earned all of it. A future. first ballot Hall of Famer. A Houston. Texans legend and member of the Bull. Ring of Honor. Ladies and gentlemen, the. owner of the Burnley Football Club, which I watched the other day. It was on. TV this weekend. I think it was on NBC. or something this weekend. They win? No. Uh I don't think so from the part that I. saw. They were They were not They were. not winning at all. Uh but and also the. Espanyol soccer duper team over there in.

Spain. Ladies and gentlemen, JJ Watt. JJ. What's up, Jage? Hey guys, how we doing? I was just. thinking this as you were talking about. the alt cast and I was just looking at. the visual of all you guys on the. sideline of Kyle Field. Have you ever. done a MySpace top eight style ranking. of the boys? Like every week, like who's. your best friend, who's on top of the. show, who's crushing, who's not? No, that's also dance moms. I know what. you're talking about, like a pyramid.

type thing, you know, uh everybody's. going to be fighting up the pyramid for. the opportunity. We're all equals here, brother. You know, we're all equals. here. And everybody has the best week. every week in their own ways. And uh. once everybody starts thinking, then. we'll start ranking. >> Participation trophies all around, boys. Congrats on the participation. You did. it. You did it. We're up 17%. Don't keep. score, baby. Don't keep score. >> They are keeping score. We're up 17%. Everybody's doing great. Hey, boys. Everybody's doing great. Everybody's doing great. Everybody's doing great. Really good.

job, boys. Really good job, boys. Up. 17%. We're up a lot last year. We're up. another one. Yeah. So everybody's. Jage, everybody's doing good. Thanks. Everybody gets a juice box. All right. Um is Burnley worth a [ __ ] Uh. is anybody getting judged over there in. there? >> [laughter]. >> I'm looking forward to the Texas A&M. game against Miami. That is going to be a good match up you. guys are going to be on the sidelines. for. Hey, we need you sometime to join. us, obviously, because your height might. help you actually Kyle Field is Yeah, it. Kyle I've always said this. I said this.

a long time. If I was designing a. football stadium, Kyle Field would be the beginning. template for what I would design. Okay, so have you been there cuz uh I think D. But's landing in Houston then driving. over there. I think they they is in. proximity of each other. Texas obviously. massive state. I've gotten a chance to. go down there with Game Day. I haven't. seen a game there. I've only seen it. from TV. It is awesome. What a special. place, right? Is that kind of how. everybody views it? Only black. atmosphere. Yeah, they obviously they. got their some of their weird things. that they do. Um but somehow it all. works. And on game day, it is.

phenomenal. >> What's weird? What's weird? Um I mean, I think they self-admit that. it's weird. Um but just some of the. things that they do. uh. just non-traditional. Just different. than other places. Um but Like college traditions that. people have that we don't understand. because we don't go there. Is that what. it is? Yes, that's exactly what I'm talking. about. Hey, I like AJ going to bat for the. Texas A&M people. I I LIKE YOU DOING. THAT, AJ. CAN I CAN I not hype UP TEXAS A&M? NO, YOU'RE BURYING THEM, I THINK, IS WHAT AJ.

IS SAYING. I WAS TRYING TO help you. there. I was trying to help. It's not. weird, right? I don't want to help. See. See See, this This isn't what you. Yeah. [laughter]. But you don't You don't just blindly. toss the praise out and act like their. everything is 100% awesome. Like Like we. can You can be honest about things and. be like, "Yeah, if you looked at it from. the There's There's some things that. people from other places look at and are. like, all right, yeah, that's that's. your thing. I got That's how you guys do. it.".

Um but. what I was saying, if I could get back. to it, was that when it all comes. together on game day, it's unbelievable. Everybody is packed. on top of you. This is not one of those. stadiums that they left extra room so. that you could have soccer games and. concerts and everything. They smooshed. this thing to the sidelines. They built. it directly up into the sky and. everything's looking down on you. It. seems like that student section is going. to topple onto the field. And when they. play that power coming out onto the. field, it is uh.

that place is cool. It's really really. special. So I think it's going to be. great. And obviously home of Shane. Lechler. So you got to give the. shout-out to Well, obviously talk about. Shane Lechler who needs to be in the. Hall of Fame stat. I mean, that is uh. that is not even a question. Shane and. Vinnie going in same time would make a. lot of sense, I think, cuz that's how. kind of everybody kind of views those. two respective positions. But Shane. Lechler stud goes there as quarterback, right? Didn't he go there as a. quarterback? >> Yep. R.C. Slocum. Can still spin it. Can still act about it. Spin it if he. had to. Dude, perfect also down there. You're You're business partners. Kyle.

went down there. There you go. Yep. Chuck something off the top deck. See if you can hit something. Maybe we. do do that. Mhm. Maybe we send somebody. That's a good idea, Jage. Kyle's done it. before. You're welcome. This sucker's. always working up here except for when. it's not. Makes sense if you don't think about it. Let's go ahead and dump that cuz that is. a really good idea. So let's let's make. sure that doesn't get out. We should. have You guys should maybe be standing. up on the top. >> Yeah. Instead of thinking we're on. [laughter] top of each other. You guys. should be standing. >> Connor, stand at the bottom and try and.

catch it. Oh, not a bad idea. Marshmallow, maybe? Oh. Or a football. Or a bowling ball. Jeez. Sure, bowling. ball you could do. >> [laughter]. >> That'd be easy. All right. So this weekend college. football playoff is awesome. The NFL, too. We're in an incredible time. Tomorrow night Rams and Seahawks kick. off week 16. Saturday night we got. important football. Sunday night we got. important football. Monday night we got. important football. Feels like it's. special. But also, if you look at the. playoff picture currently, there's a. chance we have no idea how this is all.

going to shape up. What are kind of your. thoughts on this NFL season as this is. the current playoff picture, but also. none of this is set in stone. And for. the first time since 2016, we enter a week 16 with no divisional. champions yet. It feels like it's all. very much up in the air, Jage. I feel like for fans, I mean, obviously. outside of Kansas City, Philadelphia, and a couple of places that have. traditionally kind of been there year. after year, this is going to be the most. fun playoffs that we've had in a while.

from a standpoint of it feels like we're. going in and anybody could beat anybody. And you have no idea what's going to. happen. And so as somebody who's. obviously out of the game now, this is. such a blast to watch because every week. it feels like something new is. happening, somebody new is popping up. Now you've got the Broncos sitting there. at 12 and 2 and I think the Rams. Thurs night's going to be awesome, insane, because I think the Seahawks and. Rams over there in the NFC are cream of. the crop and that'll be fun to see them. both play. I don't love that it's on a. short week where they don't get the full.

prep. I'd love to see it at full force. Um but who knows, maybe we see it again. at some point. But this playoffs, to me, tell me if I'm wrong, feels like one of. the first in a long time where you're. not penciling people in to move forward. easily. >> No, absolutely not. And down the. stretch, everything can kind of change, too, which is special. I think the Rams. are the only team we're all kind of high. on. But then they lose to the Panthers 3. weeks ago and we turned our tune. quickly. I mean, all it is one loss to. change the entire picture, especially. with 3 weeks remaining in the NFL.

season. Go ahead, AJ. Yeah, Jage, when you look at those AFC. teams over there in the in the playoff. picture right now, I guess which team do. you trust the most to go on a run and. potentially make it into the Super Bowl? I mean, obviously I mean, the Texans. defense is unbelievable. When a C.J. Stroud plays like he has recently where. they're starting to figure themselves. out, I I obviously have. a lot of high hopes for the Houston. Texans. I think when you play defense at. that level now, they've definitely lost. some guys to injuries, which has hurt. them a little bit, especially on the.

interior of that defensive line, which. helps out the entire defense. Um but I mean, I I've I've said this for a few weeks. now, like the Jaguars are underrated and. I feel like they get disrespected a bit. at at many turns here. Um they're just quietly going about. their business and improving every. single game. And Trevor Lawrence is. getting better and they're meshing. together. Um so I think that's happening. And then. I just got to watch it last weekend live. and I'll see it again this weekend. When. Josh Allen goes Superman mode, you can't stop them. Like he when he.

goes into that mode and they decide like. they were down 21 to 0 on the road in a. hat and T-shirt game and they found a. way to turn it around. And then I asked. them to put together the stats cuz I. have them again this weekend. Josh. Allen's first half to second half stats. are unbelievable. Let me let me lay this. out for you here. First half 64%. completion percentage, second half 75%. First half 95 yards per game, second. half 139 yards per game.

First half 10 touchdowns, six. interceptions, second half 15. touchdowns, four interceptions. Now, here's where I think it is the biggest. difference and here's why I think it's. different. Rushing. Josh Allen in the first half, 35 rushes, 146 yards, three touchdowns. Josh Allen. in the second half, 63 rushes, 389. yards, nine touchdowns. Jeez. I think. the defenses get worn out trying to. contain him, keep him in the pocket, and. keep this team bottled up. And the.

Patriots did an unbelievable job in the. first half keeping him bottled up. But I. think you just get fatigued over the. course of a game playing tight man, playing all these contains in the. pocket, and then he just wears you down. over the course of the game, sees you. get tired, and takes full advantage. I. see the old Derrick Henry conversation. whenever he was with the Titans. It's. like, hey, what the first half's going. to look like versus what the fourth. quarter's going to look like. Very. different with Derrick Henry. Now, that's cuz he was literally thumping. him. You're saying the amount of effort. that they are trying to put in into. keeping him contained can wear you down. a little bit. This stay with uh Superman.

that you're talking about with Josh. Allen, D-Butt. It kind of seemed. inevitable and it's going to be tough. We're talking about it yesterday. It's. going to be tough for me at least to. pick another team and quarterback. specifically against Josh Allen once. these playoffs start with Mahomes out of. it. But you've had their your eye on. him. Is there enough around Josh Allen. as far as the weapons on offense and. then the defense, especially that run. defense? Do you think it's enough for. them to actually make a run uh when the. playoffs come? I mean, I think the defense is the. question. I think on offense, I think. they I think their tight ends are such a.

massive key. I mean, you look at the. numbers when Dalton Kincaid's on the. field versus when he's off the field. When he's out there, he's able to do so. much. James Cook is second leading. rusher in the league, could possibly get. up there in the first category like just. running all over. When he runs wild, their offense clicks. Um so, I do think. there's enough on the offensive side of. the ball. because Josh is Josh. The defense is. where you start to wonder and question. about it. Now, you have to give them. credit. While they got torched in the. first half this last week, they did lock. it down in the second half and they.

found a way to get close that game out. Massive moments. They made plays. Um so, you give them credit there, but even the. week before against Cincinnati, you. know, the big turnovers for touchdowns. Um they needed those big plays to do it. So, if their defense can tighten it up, that's where it is. But like you said, D-Butt, Superman is Superman and that. Kansas City is not standing there in the. way anymore. And I don't like that it's. a consistent caveat that we're throwing. on it, but it is what it is. That's the. reality. But skate on, baby. You know,

especially whenever it's cold weather, what he's going to be able to do. We. just believe in Josh Allen. And I think, you know, the only thing that's waiting. on a Josh Allen. resume to be goated is Lombardi. You. know, and that's what all anybody says. is can he win? Can he win? Can he win? It's the same conversation that's. happened with Lamar. No matter how great. you are, no matter how many MVPs, no. matter how many capes uh Superman capes. you put on and win games or how special. you look like, then you get to a stage. where it's like, well, how many. Lombardis do you have? Can you win the. Lombardi? Cuz that'll be held against.

you forever. Is this the year that Josh. Allen changes that? Start with Hard. Knocks. Yeah. Announces a pregnancy. Mhm. Gets. married. Mhm. And wins a Lombardi. Wow. What a run for Josh Allen that. would be. >> franchise, too. Well, you know, cuz they. had the four four straight years going. and losing it. If he can actually bring. one to that we all. we all respect, you know, Bills Mafia as. a fan Well, most of us respect them as a. fan base. Uh that'd be crazy at 17. New. stadium. I mean, this would be like the. send-off of the last Oh my. It's It's.

almost all written in the stars. >> Yeah. It's all there. Are they still calling. him ugly? No. Uh yeah, we don't have to get into. that, I don't think. After the. pregnancy. Yeah. Let's just say. He's not ugly. He's handsome. >> You don't You don't He says he's ugly. You don't got to tell me. He's 6'5". What's the uh The The Hailee Steinfeld. heads are The Stein fans. The Stein. Stein fan stands. Get their names right.

>> Josh is ugly, JJ. It's messed up. >> That's what they said. We don't like it. at all. We We've actually had to go to. bat a couple different times. And Josh. Josh is a friend of the program. >> a look at this panel. We're not the. people here to be judging who looks how, you know? Neither are these people. >> saying. That's what we're saying. And. JJ, I appreciate you taking the. opportunity to grandstand there. WE'RE. NOT SAYING THAT HE IS NOT ATTRACTIVE. WHAT WE'RE saying is they NEED TO STOP. TALKING ABOUT OUR MVP LIKE THIS. They. We DON'T LIKE THAT. JOSH IS HANDSOME. HE'S 6'5". HE'S THE MVP OF THE NFL.

COWBOY. ALL YOUR LITTLE HANDSOME MODELS, JOSH ALLEN WOULD PICK THEM UP BY THE TOP. OF THEIR HEAD LIKE THIS. ACTUALLY, scrunch into a football. SPANK THEM AROUND. Who do they want? They like Shamalay? Well, everybody. Everybody likes Everybody likes Tim. Tebow. Smart guy. That's not the guy. That's not the guy. >> with Kylie, so you know I like Timmy. I'm saying it as a good thing. Okay. >> Gosh, you guys are really just trying to. throw me under the bus. Yeah, it's kind. of been fun. It's kind OF BEEN A FUN I. DIDN'T KNOW THIS WAS GOING TO BE THE. DAY, but I do appreciate it. >> Neither did I. How about I tell you. what? I got my shovel, big dog. I'll dig.

myself [laughter] out. I'm all good. Ain't no problem. I mean, that started with AJ going, what are you. calling weird? Just real quick, you want. to offend an entire group of people. He. took the lid off his protein shake and. all of a sudden turned into Lex Luthor. over there. No, I saw protein. That's. the What are those things? >> Aminos. Aminos. It's aminos as well. Oh, you don't like my aminos? Yeah, that's [laughter] how I speak like. that. JJ, do you drink aminos all day? Is that. something you do? I take aminos. I just had a shake after. my workout with There were aminos in it, BCAAs. God, you guys are the best.

Remember LaRon Landry? He was taking more than aminos. But. >> [laughter]. >> He's He's pretty strong. He's pretty. strong. >> He had a a red bottle. >> My guy. He had a red bottle. I mean, he's one of my favorite humans I've ever. witnessed in real life. Just so. entertaining. So positive. Like. legitimate Like there is not a negative. thing that I could say LaRon Landry. brought into our locker room other than. the fact that he arrived at 280 lb. We. signed him to safety. 275 to 280. And he.

decided, didn't tell anybody, that he. wanted to be a D-end safety hybrid is. what he wanted to do with the Colts. Obviously fresh off. >> Comma combo. Which I mean, it would have. changed the game. Look the part. There's. a chance HE COULD HAVE DONE IT. I mean, there was a chance he could have done it. in in first time he showed up. So, I. think there was an immediate like, well, this guy doesn't care at all. And then. we start to like hear him talk and watch. him. It's like, this guy's the greatest. This guy is maybe one of the most. entertaining, electrifying humans of all. time. But he had a red bottle that was. with him at all times. I think it was. even in his tights during practice.

Where he And just like AJ. AJ just had. regular water there. There's a bottle. right next That's a red bottle that's. always there. >> And the piss bottle. And And there's a. bottle attached to the table, obviously. And that's a yellow one. Yeah, right. He's hydrated. It's light yellow. >> [laughter]. >> Which is what we're looking to do. Uh. let's pivot away from you two physical. specimens and what you guys do on a. day-to-day. And let's talk about a. physical specimen that uh ended up in an. unfortunate situation, your brother. Obviously, we've learned a lot about his. situation through your Twitter account. whenever you broke the news of like what.

actually happened. And I feel like you. wanted to clarify some things or clear. the air on exactly what took place. How. is your brother right now? Obviously, Steelers fans missed him on Monday. night. They get their first win without. him. Uh obviously changed the. course of Miami Dolphins football. forever on Monday night, which some of. the boys will ask you about. But from. the Pittsburgh standpoint with your. brother, how's he feeling? Is everything. okay? And was it a sketchy situation in. there? I assume anytime there's. emergency surgery, it's not great news. for the entire family or himself.

Yeah, he's working through it. Um he's working through it. It's It's. obviously not somewhere that he expected. or would like to be. Um but just. handling the situation day by day and. making sure to. uh find the appropriate and proper steps. to get back to where he would like to. be. Sketchy though, right? I mean, I. mean, that's probably cuz obviously. things happen throughout a football. season. There's injuries that take. place. But hearing I I mean, obviously. we're talking about your perspective.

from this, which you don't want to do. You want to talk about TJ cuz it is. about TJ. But let's just talk about you. cuz you're here and then you can. obviously allude to TJ TJ. But just out. of nowhere, that's a routine thing for. him. He does dry needling on a regular. basis. I assume this is a part of his. regular game week routine. And then for. that to immediately lead to always going. here Oh, he's got a. And we got emergency surgery and lung. involved. Like, that's pretty quick. How. did you kind of handle all that stuff? And what was kind of the vibe of the. Watts as a whole as they get blindsided. by this situation, seemingly?

Yeah. I mean, I would say unexpected is. the appropriate word. Um. it I mean, yeah, dry needling is. incredibly common. Everybody in the. league most Anybody who's been in the. league has probably done it at some. point. Um. so, yeah. I I would say he. he was certainly not anticipating being. in the hospital and getting lung surgery. last week. All right. Well, please tell. him. I I assume he doesn't watch this show. He's too locked in on everything else. Hey, he's probably right now actually.

taking his little fingers into his body. and stretching out his lung to make sure. it's entirely full. That's how we view. you, Watts. But please send our positive. vibes and well wishes. That's scary. [ __ ] There's no such thing as routine. surgery. Like, anytime somebody says. it's a normal surgery, routine surgery, it's like, uh they put them out and are. they cutting them open? Yes. Okay. This. [ __ ] is not routine. This is a very. serious, a very important thing. Happy. to hear he's okay. Hopefully recovery. will continue to go that way. We're. sorry for everybody a part of that. Now, let's talk about the other side of that.

now. Pittsburgh Steelers get a massive. win on Monday night football that TJ was. not able to be a part of. And then the. Miami Dolphins start making some. big-time decisions. Go ahead, Con Man. >> Yeah, JJ, breaking news today. Tua is. being benched in Miami and Quinn Ewers. will get his first start against the. Bengals. Uh it feels like a lot of. people might have saw the writing on the. wall with the Jalen Ramsey Tua yuck it. up session after they got blown out. Um. and he I believe he was the last one on. the field with Jalen Ramsey having a. jolly old time even though their season.

was inevitably over after this loss. They are no longer lurking. Uh what are. kind of your takeaways from the Tua time. in Miami and where do you think Miami. goes from here just because, you know, it was kind of one of those things where. they scored 70 points versus the Broncos. a few years ago. They're changing. offense in the entire NFL to this moment. in time now where this has become a. complete joke. Miami and the Dolphins. look awful after kind of going on a. little run during the season. Yeah, I mean I I'm.

I'm a little I know that this is, you. know, old man get off the lawn type. situation where it's old school. Um but. I I think there I'm a believer in there. is like at least a minimum. responsibility on the optics and. everything with the fan base and. understanding. um. how everybody's feeling after a certain. game or after a way the season is going. And. the fans, I mean the players, you know, everybody cares so much about this game. and I I do believe and it's uh trust me,

I'm not sitting here saying don't laugh. and and that, you know, you can't you. can't talk to a friend after a game or. anything like that. But like I do think. there are some optics of when you're. cracking up like like belly laughing on. the field after you just lost a huge. game in that way to be eliminated from. the playoffs. Like that that's a look. that doesn't go over well. Whether it's. with certain other players in the locker. room, whether it's with ownership, whether it's with the fan base. Like. there is a responsibility especially. when you're the highest paid player uh. on the team and you are the leader of.

the organization. That's that's just not. a good look truthfully. I mean. point blank, you can't be doing that. after a huge loss. Yeah, I uh I was up. for it. So um you know, I felt like a. younger version of me by the way stayed. all the way up through that entire. thing. I think I was trying to celebrate. with the Inser people who did not boo. Renegade, which is a very cool thing. I. think it was a active text messages. coming from Pittsburgh about the team. we're all the way back or winning the. Super Bowl. So maybe that's why I was. up. Uh game ends, I go bathroom, okay? I. come back out, Tua is still on the.

field, okay? I uh I I go Bluey is going. crazy, got to settle him down, come back. in. Tua is still on the field. Tua is. still on the field. Tua is last guy off. the field basically. And it's like. how is the quarterback for the losing. team last guy? And to your point, I felt. like old man. I was like, don't get mad. about this. Don't This is not a this is. not a thing. This is. >> It's free. different generation. Obviously him catching up with Jalen, it's good news. Him and Jalen are. friends. That's him Jalen likes Tua, still has respect for Tua, wants to talk. about Tua. That means Tua is good. teammate. Like I was going through all.

those things in my head, but then I was. just at the end like, you never see any. quarterback that's going to win a Super. Bowl have that situation happen, you. know? Like that you would never Patrick. Mahomes, would we ever see him after a. loss jovial the last person off the. field uh at an away game at an away. stadium after a loss? It's like, no. You. Josh Josh Allen, you would never see. that. Like Payton, Tom, I don't even. want to have to get into that whole. conversation. Drew, yeah, right. Drew. was like genuinely shoot pissed it felt. like every time. So you then I started. going back into that conversation. I'm.

like, this is year six for this This guy. is supposed to be is already a made man. at quarterback position getting paid. I just keep asking, where did this all. you know? Was it them trading away every. good player that they had? Maybe. But they still had a chance to make it. in the playoffs. Does he seemingly not care? Do him and. McDaniel get along? Does the franchise. like him? Does he not like the. franchise? You know, you start asking. all these questions and then they. announce that he's benched for a seventh. round draft pick and then you're like, well, what the [ __ ] wrong with Zach. Wilson? Is Zach Wilson Zach Wilson okay.

down there? You then I start asking all. these questions and then you immediately. all the way lead back to this team. hasn't won a playoff game in 25 years, okay? So there's probably a lot of. problems. Let's assume that there'll be. a fresh start for all parties and uh. hopefully it goes better. Let's go to. the other half OF THE HAMMER. DAH. COWBOYS, BUBBA GUMPINO, GOOD NEWS, bad. news. We've moved on from Tua time. Uh. unfortunately it is good news because I. liked Tua when we drafted him. I. believed him in him. But you go back to. like his best season. You remember how. big he was? Like he was muscular, stood in the.

pocket, took hits, threw the ball deep, and then he get got paid and he. completely changes everything. Like. everything changed. And then this year. he throws teammates under the bus. Every. time he talks it's never his fault and. then that was the end of it on Monday. night. Like you can't do it anymore. He's the face of the franchise doing. this [ __ ] all season long. It's been two. years of this [ __ ] that nobody's. noticed. They cut Matthew Judon. Uh. Judon is released by the Miami Dolphins. His deal is one year six million bucks. I don't know what that means for how.

much money is remaining. Will he clear. waivers? We assume. We assume he will. But this whole Dolphins thing it like. McDaniel we assume Yeah, bye-bye. >> it's over, you know? And it's just like. a restart down there. And that's where. we're at right now. We're staring down. restarts at some teams and then we're. staring down potential Lombardis at. others. And it's a crazy time of year. and we're very lucky to be a part of it. And the Indianapolis Colts staring down. Lombardis still. Go ahead, Ty. Thank. you. Yeah, Jage, what did you think of. Philip Rivers' performance last week?

Cuz, you know, on every sports show kind. of leading into Sunday, like there were. people saying that it was like, you. know, organizational malpractice for. them bringing him back. This guy's going. to get killed. >> or or worried about his family. And then. he puts the Colts in position to win the. game. Now his stats weren't. unbelievable, but I don't think anyone. was expecting them to be. But moving. forward, do you think the Colts still. have a legitimate chance to make the. playoffs especially if Philip Rivers is. going to be the guy who's going to be. the guy at the helm? Tough road. I mean I I what I will say is that like.

I don't think there's certain people. that went super far with their comments. on, you know, everything and I I don't. [laughter] think it was wrong to have. concerns about him taking hits. Like I. think that's what that was a legitimate. thing coming in. Now he did what I think. exactly he should do. Obviously hand the. ball off and he got it out of his hands. extremely quick because he's an. unbelievable processor. And so I think. it's awesome what he did. I think. literally him making it through the. whole game, having a chance to win that. game at the end, taking him down for the.

field goal, and then unfortunately. losing it at the end. But it was it was. must-see TV. It was awesome. And for him. it was probably the greatest feeling. ever and for all those kids back. watching like it was so cool. And so as. a fan of the game I loved it. I I am. very happy that it ended with him. successfully moving on to the next week. and having a chance to do it again. But. I I'm not going to sit here and like act. like I didn't have those concerns cuz I. certainly did. >> I think we all did. You know, we all had. the concerns. Yeah, five years away from. the game. We all saw.

what he looked like. He looked fat. But. then that got. like you're back. The pregame the pregame warm-up shot. with with the jacket like that rain. jacket that kind of puffs out further. than the belly. is not a good look and that was not the. best photograph. >> Well, and also I think with the hat the. way that the hat was fitting on his head. and the way the hoodie was, there was. potentially no real jawline either. So, you know, in his press conference so. everybody's immediately going, some big old fatso is going to play.

quarterback for the Colts. And what are. we doing? And Philip Rivers' answer was. like, I never run away from anybody. anyways and I have no idea what my. weight was coming off Buffalo. I don't. know what it is now. Then he put the. pads on, put shoulder pads on. He had. the uh rib protectors, the spleen. protector on. >> And he looked exactly like Philip. Rivers. I'm happy that happened. And the. all whites that the Colts wear not easy. You cannot hide in there. That's why on. Monday You cannot hide in there. We got. the Indiana Knights uniforms on Monday. night football. Boom. ON MONDAY NIGHT. FOOTBALL. YEAH. WOO. NO. YES, she grew.

up TALL AND SHE GREW up round with them. Indiana boys on them Indiana nights. >> [whistles]. >> Why capitalize the I? That song's about marijuana and I love. it. And I love that we're using the. Indiana Knights uniforms in a night. game. MONDAY NIGHT SMOKING THAT San Fran. pack. >> Good question. Stupid. >> What's that? >> Why is it a lower case I? >> Yeah. AJ with a great point. No, don't. worry about it. Worry about THE GRAPHIC.

THAT'S CAPITAL I IN THE GRAPHIC. Don't. worry about it. >> to intentionally do that though because. >> At least they're wearing them at night. I mean this is a step forward. >> Thank you. Let's not worry about the. lower case I in in the. in the Are these the ones with the black. helmets, blue jerseys? Is that what this. is? Yeah, I agree. Black helmets, blue. jerseys. Yeah, that's why they blacked. it out in the photo. I you can't even. tell what it is. >> Look how sick that helmet is and look at. that jersey. >> Sweet is A STRETCH. BOOM. OH. BOOM. SAUCE. That's a night time, BABY. THIS IS BUILT.

FOR THE STARS. THIS IS BUILT FOR OH, SORRY, SAUCE. YEAH, but this is Sauce. Gardner's. This is Sauce Gardner's. What. I mean? Built for stars. Built for prime. time. Built for Philip Rivers. Now. Philip Rivers also hasn't had the. opportunity to play in front of a packed. out loud house in Lucas Oil Stadium. Cuz. whenever he was Colts quarterback, they. had cardboard cutouts of me and the boys. in the stands during COVID. So it's a. it's a crazy time here in Indianapolis. We got night uniforms for a night game. cuz remember they rolled these things.

out. The marketing department had a. brilliant idea on these Indiana Knights, which why I would like to be. heard loud and clear that I appreciate. the fact that they're pulling from a Tom. Petty song about weed and they're. promoting it because if you play that. guitar lick anywhere, everybody will. sing along and it obviously puts Indiana. in a great place. But whenever they rolled out we did it. with 1:00 games and uh we didn't make. playoffs and we sucked. So there there. was no prime time. They actually changed. the rule I think for the Indianapolis. Colts not to have to get a Thursday. night game. Like usually every team had.

to get a Thursday night game at least. for one time prime time and then they. changed that rule and the team the next. year that didn't have any of the. primetime games was the Indianapolis. Colts and we had Indiana nights waiting. on deck. So they rolled this thing out. and they put them on at 1:00 and we. lost. So. all across the board we lost, I think. So now that it's Monday night football. and we got the Indiana nights uniform, San Francisco 49ers good luck. Bob Saleh. has no [ __ ] idea what he's Yeah, you're probably right. He has no idea. what he's about to watch. He's going to. go home and sleep.

>> [laughter]. >> You can't even see the uniform in the. picture. It's in there. >> [laughter]. >> Yeah, that is a bit concerning. They. know. Why did they not capitalize the I? That's disgusting. Why? Because no I in. team. Well, there's two I's in Indiana, so I hate them. That somebody's going to tweet us and be. like, "Hey morons, this is why." Yeah, there's got to be a I don't know why. I. think that it might have to do with some. of the stuff that's like the the cool. intricacies of the new uniforms. Like.

there might be something like that. Like. I know the Colts the symbol itself has. the outline of the state of Indiana, I. believe in it. Like there might be some. cool little thing that we're forgetting. And Bruce Brown just did some deep. diving. >> Speaking of cool little things, that. tarp you got on is sweet, brother. That. Bruce tarp. >> We beat the absolute shites out of that. dork Ryan Smith's Utah Mammoth last. night. Utah Mammoth, a good team I. heard. Oh, yeah. And there's a team. that's better and they're in Boston, baby. Ryan Smith, he's a super genius. We. appreciate his work ethic.

There's a chance someone call him a. dork, especially if you're losing to the. Boston Bruins. Yeah, good luck with your. focus on your Jazz line. Everyone's. pretty bummed out about them, too. They're building a facility right now. that's going to be the nicest facility. in all sports. >> By far. With I mean, they got the. Mammoth thing going, too, but a lot of. people. >> Battle back down now. Don't back down. now. Hey, have you heard Do it or don't. do it at all. Have you heard about what. they're doing with their practice. facilities? >> It's cool, man. Yeah, they're opening it. up to the public like part-time. They I. don't know, maybe. That that sounds like. a good business venture that Ryan Smith. would potentially do, but if it's going.

to sacrifice winning, he will stay away. from it. Bought a mall. Bought a mall. >> Okay. Mall. You know, you know malls? Gigantic. >> I'm aware. Carry on. Department stores. You know big department stores are? Like. the The Nordstrom, Macy's, JCPenney. Dillard's. Yeah, bought bought a mall, okay? And now he's turning like JCPenney. is the Utah Jazz facility and then you. go up some actual escalators that are. there, go down and then you enter into. the Utah Jazz facility, which is like.

Nordstrom or something like that. And. they're both gigantic. Build it up in. one year, the Mammoth side of it. Going. to do the same thing for the Jazz. And. then I do believe it is going to be. there's a public area of the mall that's. going to be on that side. If their teams. could just get. good, you know. >> Mammoth Mammoth have. The Jazz, they. actually really, really are in a bad. spot. Why is that? Cuz they thought they were. potentially going to get the number one. overall pick. >> Yeah, it turns out Oklahoma City has. their pick and now Oklahoma City's going. to have two top 10 picks and actually. the Jazz are contributing to ruining the.

entire NBA if that happens with the. Oklahoma City Thunder. But but that. might not happen. facility, very good. >> Very good and the Mammoth are clients. Very good and it's beautiful. But that is a beautiful sweater there. for the Boston Bruins as the NHL. continues to be awesome. And to wrap up. the Colts lowercase I thing, Bruce did. some research. I guess this has happened. multiple times. There's somebody that's. really new and cool that has a social. media degree that wants to add their own. little flavor. Yeah, all right. Just capitalize the goddamn I. I know.

you got a social media degree, please. It's name for our state, you know. What a joke. I hate the social media. people. Not everywhere, okay? Just the. super duper geniuses that are you know, having a lot of It's an artistic choice. they took. Is that what you're saying? >> Yeah, I believe that is what Bruce has. come to a quick conclusion that there's. potentially a new thumb on the social. account and kind of want to make their. own mark or maybe, you know, leave their. own little artistry. Maybe start a. trend. Maybe start a trend. >> Mission accomplished. New thumb or new. knob. I believe the Chargers are.

lowercase only over on their X account. So it is a bit of a thing. Not a bad. idea to follow the Chargers. Maybe we. back off this take. Maybe we back off. We We have not gotten full context of it. all. If you were doing what the Chargers. are doing, we would like say good Hey, this new social media person really. doing it. Really like what they're doing. Innovative. I really like what they're. doing. See [laughter] new information, we keep. it moving. Uh but on that note, let's capitalize. that I. Yeah, there's nothing cool about. being wrong. That's not the way it's. spelled. No. Especially with states. Yeah, especially this our state. Especially Indiana. >> Yeah, our state. Yeah.

Especially. Ty, you leaning up over. there? Ty, you are you leaning out? You. talking about? I don't know, you just look lean. You. look very lean. Am I leaning out? No, that's very nice of you to say that cuz. I probably need to lose about 35 lb. So. thank you. >> year, new you. Coming right up. >> So thank you for saying that. That. actually makes me feel great. And so. maybe now I'm not going to do anything. for the next, you know, >> [laughter]. >> Thank you, Ty. Appreciate it. Thank you, Ty. My turn. Tell a friend, tell a friend, >> [laughter]. >> you know. Uh you are looks like you might be.

getting THE HOLIDAY BUMP. WOW. THANK. YOU, THANK YOU. THE HOLIDAY WEIGHT LOSS. BUMP. I like that. >> Looks like you're It looks like you have. some good cooks in your family. Oh, I. like that. The kitchen's obviously. operating at. optimum. At least yeah, okay. [laughter]. Connor, I think you Connor, how long is. the hair going? Cuz I am on chop watch. I am near the end of the line here. I. think I'm at the end. Are you at the. end? Where are you at? >> No, I'm not I mean, I think I've I've. gotten I've gotten past the point of. where I wanted to be. So I need to trim. it up maybe a little, but I don't think.

you should cut your hair, dude. Where. are you at? Where are you at? Where are. you at? I'm I'm. I'm at the point and probably just past. the point of where I would like to be. Okay, will you. My question for you is, will you. continue to be hat guy to keep it down? Cuz hat at the beginning to keep hair. down while it's dry huge ordeal. Yes, I. think it's a it's a tech technique that. is used by a lot of people. You can. continue to do that while continuing to. grow it out, right? I cut you off there, but will you continue to do that while. you grow it out? Well, no, I don't want to grow it.

anymore. I am done growing it. It is at. the length where I definitely don't want. it to be any longer than this. I think it might even be a touch too. long at the moment. The hard part is is. on Sun like I like wearing a hat. I like. the flip out the back of the hat. But on. Sundays I got to go on air and for 4. hours this has to somehow stay like. okay. But you put on a headset, you put. off the headset, you're out in the. elements. Like it doesn't stay good for. that long. So I don't know what to do, man. Spray, hat, let it dry. Yeah, I know. I I do that.

But then I got to take the hat off to go. on television. And you're telling me. your your hair has so much bounce that. it's battling through that? >> it like Yeah, like it it like falls down. in front like this. It does like this. thing. Yeah, that actually looks. awesome. Yeah, that's that's a good. look. That looks sweet. You have good. hair, dude. You have really good hair. I. don't think you should be embarrassed by. it. I had the reverse quaff this this. week, too. Usually JJ, I've noticed you. go you go left to right, but this week. it was right to left. >> a lot of calyx in there or no? Um it's not too bad.

Um. I don't know. I I I. >> I think your hair is good, dude. That. would be a fun gimmick coming back from. break and if you do what you just did. and then your Yeah. That'd be awesome. >> Just get a little quaff. Every once in a. while Joey Burrow will get like the. curl. The curl down in front like Razor. Ramon. Yeah. I think you should think about that. whenever you're doing it. Your hair is. good, dude. I don't think you should. quit on it. >> And and don't be and don't be for me at. least, don't be fickle about that. That's my problem. Like I want to look. exactly one way. Once you do that, then. you're just going to you're going to.

drive yourself crazy. >> You're chasing. You're chasing. You're. chasing. Speaking of chasing That's. fair. Uh Matthew Judon is going to be. available, we all assume. Uh there was a. team that lost a great pass rusher that. might be in the market. Go ahead, AQ. Yeah, JJ, tough weekend of injuries. obviously with Micah Parsons going down. How big of an impact is it with Green. Bay losing him and what does their. defense look like moving forward? I mean, it's a gigantic impact. He is a. phenomenal player. He changes everything. for how teams have to block, to account.

for him, to know where he's going to be. Lines up all over. He's explosive. Um he's he's an incredible player and. you when you're losing one of the best. players in the National Football League. You can't replace them even with one, two, three guys. It's it's just. different when you have that level of. athlete on the field that you have to. account for. So yeah, they can go out. there and get somebody. It's not going. to be the same. It's going to be more of. by committee figuring out how this. defense in front is going to get the. pressure to try and somehow replicate a.

percentage of what he's leaving behind. and that's guys stepping up. It's games. It's schemes. It might be pressure from. the second level or the back end. But it is going to be the whole defense. rallying around. You You literally. cannot replace a player of that caliber. with one or two guys. I mean, would a. hometown or home state guy maybe take, I. don't know, $25 million to come back and. maybe try to fill that void for a. playoff run here? Oh, mama. JJ Watt and. the Packers.

I wanted to play for the Packers in free. agency. >> I know you did. I wanted to go to Green. Bay. And what They were not interested. What? >> That was old regime. Yeah, I was going. to say we got we got a policy now. Finish your story. That's where I wanted to go. I I I said. I told my agent I said, "I don't care. what the number is. I don't care how low. it is. Tell me what it is so I can at. least consider it. I said, "I'm not. saying it's a guarantee to take it, but. I said if it's 2 million, if it's 4. million, whatever the number is, put it in front. of me so that I can at least consider it.

against all these options.". And they said, "We We can't get a. number." They don't even They didn't. even make an offer to JJ Watt? >> I got I I. I mean, I I I don't know What year is. this? What year? This was 2020. This is right before I. went to Arizona. It was 2021. So you're still playing football. He was. still playing. He should have kicked the. door down, went in there. Yeah, like. this is my free agent my real free. agency. I said they we went you go. through the list of everything on what. you want to do with where you would you. like to go, what kind of what are you. looking for? And I said my the the ideal situation.

for me would be to go play for the Green. Bay Packers. That's where I mean I grew. up. I watched Reggie White. That would. be incredible. I said I'll take a. significant significant hometown. discount to play there. Um and I said. but I just need to know what that looks. like so I can at least consider it. against all options. And I was not given a number to. consider. Oh my gosh, J.J. Now that might have been your agent. saying we're not telling this guy this. small of a number cuz obviously that. affects what number we're getting in. this entire thing. And there has been. stories of agents potentially not.

telling people things so they can guide. them in a different direction. So we're. not 100% sure. You would know better. than us. Yeah. No, I don't I'm not 100%. sure. But what it sounds like right now. what it sounds like right now is the. Green Bay Packers said, "Who? Yeah, see. you." and just kind of moved along with. J.J. Watt. That's awesome to hear right. now. >> I didn't do that. I'm just. >> I can tell you with without question. right now I can tell you that $5 million. would have GOTTEN IT DONE. OH MY GOD. HOW MUCH DID YOU END UP TAKING? HOW MUCH. DID YOU END UP TAKING? HOW MUCH DID YOU. END UP TAKING?

Uh I think LIKE 15. GOD DAMN, THEY WOULD. HAVE DONE THAT. Come on. Would you consider it one more. time? $5 million now. [laughter]. We'll take 7 and 1/2. We'll say we'll do. you know we'll give you a 50% bump. Yeah, you still got that log cabin up. there? You still got that log cabin up. there? Maybe we can move back in and go. on a playoff run. J.J., we appreciate. the hell out of you, man. You're the. greatest. Genuinely, you are the best. You're too good at football to be as. good of a human an actual human that you. are. It really doesn't make any sense.

And then we see that your hair is also. flawless as well. Pretty outrageous. So. we appreciate the hell out of you, man. Yeah, I appreciate you guys very much. It's a blast every single week. I hope. you guys have a lot of fun at Kyle. Field. That'll be awesome. Um but. seriously, this show is so much fun. every single week. I know I tell you all. the time but I really really appreciate. it. Your fans are awesome. It's great to. get mentions from them all the time and. you guys are the best. Our fans, brother. You're the best. Ladies and. gentlemen, J.J. WATT. HE'S AWESOME.

Great on the call, too. He is. Yeah, seriously. Yeah. Good vibe while watching. No matter. what's happening. Yeah, it's fun. Yeah, point out the good in the game. Yeah, there's good stuff. >> Remember ball time is going. Remember I. know we're getting a break. He Remember. he's filming ball time. That's got to. come out soon. Ball town. Town. Oh yeah. >> Ball time. I thought. I thought it was. balls time. Well, we'll figure it out. whenever it Either way, great promo. Great tease. Yeah, cuz we remember it still. >> [clears throat]. >> All right. See you tomorrow.

>> [laughter]. >> That's our our best one. That was the. best. That was our best. That was one of. the best ones ever. >> [laughter]. >> I don't know why I had to bring it up. with 20 seconds to go but yeah. Yeah, but then again at 10 seconds I wanted to. ask him about it. It's ball time. I. thought it was ball. >> Call back. He call call him back, please. >> it's balls town. I thought it was. different. Neither. I think it's. neither. He pluralized balls and he. changed it to time. But I think it's He. filmed like I thought he had a whole. season in the can. Like I just want to. see when it comes out. >> Me, too, bro. We're thinking the same. We're Hey, we're thinking the same. thing. I forgot it existed and then you.

brought it up. Balls town. Okay. Balls. town. >> It's about all Joining us now, ladies. and gentlemen, the host of Balls Town we. think, J.J. Watt. What was the name of. that show thing that you you recorded? Do you remember? What's that now? Balls town? Ball town? Yeah, it never happened. Didn't come to fruition. What? >> don't speak too early. You filmed a few, right? Yes. Yeah, we filmed the pilot. We. filmed some stuff. Who owns the footage? Who owns the footage? Yeah. It's a cartoon. It's a cartoon. Is it What do you mean? Is it Who owns.

it though? Um I mean I I would imagine that I still. own. a portion of it. Oh, so it's not over. yet. It's not over yet. Okay. So just if. you know. there might be some people that would be. interested in purchasing the rights. >> the characters or something? How's that. if it's animated? It's a cartoon. >> Yeah, it's animated. So I voiced I. voiced the character. There's. Yeah. It's I love the concept. I really. love the concept. It's uh. It's literally It's kind of like Cars. but for sports. Like the balls can talk.

All different balls. Like you'd have. you'd have a golfer voicing over the. golf ball. You'd have a basketball star. voicing over the basketball. You have me. voicing over the football. It's really. cool. So yeah, sounds really cool. Wait, have you watched it and you hated it? No, I liked it. It was a very. interesting time back when we were. shopping it like the with. streaming and the amount of shows and. everything and just what would be. required to. make it happen didn't happen. Say no. more, my friend. Sounds like this Balls. Town still awaiting a release date but.

is still. >> How did this come up? I didn't. I got off and you guys started talking. about ball town. AJ said I want to ask him about ball. time is what he said. And then we said. no, I think it's. Balls Town and then we forgot all about. it though. And but it needs to not be. forgotten. That thing needs to be. That's good for sports. >> about that one a little too early. I I. brought the like I've learned that I you. can't bring things up that early. It's a. life lesson. No.

It's all right. No. That's still alive. I want to see that. >> AJ, are you going to Kyle Field? I will be there, yeah. It's going to be. sweet. I've never been there. It's It's a great place though. I mean. obviously. Ohio Stadium is an awesome place. I The. thing that separates it for me is how. close to the field. Like the Ohio Ohio. Stadium has that one end zone that's. real deep back behind that flagpole. I just love how this one is just. everything on top of you. I appreciate. the fact that you pointed out instead of. making it wider for concerts and.

anything else that they could. potentially profit off of the stadium. for, they decided to make it strictly. for the environment to be as hard as. possible in a home field advantage which. you respect which we also respect and we. will bring that up whenever we're. certainly talking about it. Um. we need to save Balls Town for the good. of sport. >> Yeah. This needs to happen. Sports need. to. >> what what do we got here? There's some. angle here. Some No. There's no angle. Literally, AJ kind of ruined the exit. off ESPN completely cuz you brought up. Balls Town. You brought it up like 6.

months ago, I believe. Is it animated so. you could say like controversial things. and get away with it? Is that why you. did that? >> [laughter]. >> That's why people do that. What's. happening here? >> Cartoons can say whatever they want. >> Yeah, I guess we don't know what the the. context of the. Wow. >> you can't you can say whatever you want. on SpongeBob SquarePants? Like what do. you mean? >> No, Family Guy though and South Park. F. is for family. And also Jeff Dunham, the. ventriloquist. >> ventriloquist. IT'S NOT ME. IT'S. IT'S TERRIBLE. OH, WHAT this person.

saying over there, you know. It's good. little play by comedians which we. respect and AJ was wondering if that's. what you guys are doing with this. particular one. You can. Let some jokes fly. I picture it like. Recess. I loved the show Recess growing. up. I liked Recess. It was great ones. Hey Arnold, you know, some of those. I. My son watched Jingle All the Way the. other night. Not animated but just. underrated Christmas movie. Yeah. Okay, let's make sure Balls Town is not dead. We appreciate. >> dog by the way? I got to ask you cuz I. saw your post the other day where he was. just chomping at the food bin. Love the.

attitude of this new dog that we've got. Yeah, hungry dog. It is a hungry dog all. the time. This dog is supposed to be I think. grazing plains with cattle or any other. animal horses. I've heard these things. hoard hoard. heard horses. Okay? So horses can really. run. You know, and horses are really. tall. So to be able to herd said things. you would assume. would have to have respect for the. stature of said dog which I think we're. nowhere near the end of where this thing.

is headed towards, you know, with the. size of its mitts versus the size of its. entire thing. How did you get it? Uh Hamilton County Humane Society. Hamilton County Humane Society, you. know, was sitting there staring through. the picture. with its ear which he still does, ears. back. Just did something that was. catastrophic to the house. Come sit over. I'm so sorry. I just have. too much energy. His tail is just going. I What do you want from me, dude? This. is just who I am. I am so sorry. And. then go down on the back. And then you. start petting him and he gets super. excited so then he pees on you. And. obviously when he's peeing his bladder's. gigantic. So it's just your entire arm.

is just now getting blasted with piss. while he's peeing on himself. So now. he's got pee on himself and on his. shirt. So then he gets up and you go. back to your room, you know, cuz you. need to take off the piss shirt that you. have on, you know, cuz you would like to. hold your child, you know, but you don't. want to lay in the piss. So as you head. back to the bedroom, you know, you you. notice that the dog actually jumped 45. ft and landed on the bed which is cool. that it landed on the bed but you. remember that it just pissed all over. itself. So now he's laying on bed, you. know, taking up the whole thing. He's.

kind of cutting that thing. You know how. sandwiches can be cut diagonal? So on the bed he's diagonal and he's tip. to tip, you know, from that. He's taking. up the whole thing. So It's really it. That's But then he gets down again. He. goes, "Ah, I didn't know. You How could. you expect me to know? I I just It was. so comfortable. It was so nice. I was in. a [ __ ] bin just a couple weeks ago.". And then sprints in and then he's back. It's like. He's a good dog. It's a great dog. You. can tell good dog, good natured but boy, big. What's the plan for exercising this. thing that normally runs with horses? So. electric fence we're putting in. Okay,

we got property out here in Indiana. which is good news but also there's like. a foot of snow down. So tough get in. anything, you know, cuz this was kind of. spur of the moment decision to just have. to get this dog within the next day too. So there wasn't Yeah, look at that guy. >> wasn't a lot of Give me that damn food. Give me that damn food. And he drank. >> on stuff? Does he like eat pillows and. stuff or mess the stuff up? Doesn't do. any of that. >> Oh, then you're good. You're all right. He just He He gets excited and pees and. has so much energy and he's always. hungry. Like he will always want to eat.

And I think it's cuz he has to grow but. we'll feed him. Like I'll feed him to. like what you think will make him happy. and then you put the food away and then. all of a sudden no, we're in the. vicinity of food. I need it. And he'll. actually head nod at this point. Ah, don't chuck him, man. Don't you dare. chuck this guy. He can't. He can't. You. literally can't. I I'm I have to run. sprints in house with this thing at. night to try to just get it to stop. So. he's is to end up turning me into a much. better fit person, but also I'm going to. have to add completely a daily routine.

of running this. >> Take Connor. Take him on your morning. jogs every day. >> That's not a bad idea. >> you two. you two go on your daily jog together. That's not a bad idea. >> some messages from somebody that lives. in my neighborhood that says, "I got one. of those similar dogs. I ran it for 7. miles today. I think it still wants to. go out for another one." So, what I'm. worried is. >> Oh, no. the more I work out this dog, I. think we're just creating a a turbo man. of sorts, if you will, and I potentially. I'm about to get run out of the gym by. this dog no matter what I do. I'm It's. an never-ending chase to get this dog.

tired, and from what I've been told by. people that have these dogs is. this [ __ ] ain't ever tired. That's why this. >> Yeah, you don't expend enough energy as. it is. You definitely need more energy. expenditure on your plate. Yeah, and that's what we got with Blue. You know, that's what we got with. >> Are you guys going to the Friday night. yell lead? We are. And that's what you were talking about? >> I got. I got I cannot wait to just take that. content into my eyeballs. Us. experiencing it is what you're saying?

>> Yes. Yes. >> [snorts]. >> I am very excited to experience you. experiencing it. Yeah, I think what J is. excited for. >> can we get you in some overalls? I was trying to ask you this. I don't. know a whole lot about it. I wanted you. to describe. I'm not sure what it is. I've seen a couple videos online, but. I'm not sure if they were real or not to. be truthful. I believe there are either painted or. bedazzled overalls involved. >> Painted? Um please. There is a lot of. this. That's the final call. Yeah, that's the.

final hand signal, but they do a lot of. That's them sawing off the longhorn. Okay, that's them acting like a saw. right there, and that's why they're. singing, and that's the cut off the. horns of the longhorn cuz they hate. Texas. They don't It's like it's like. that part is awesome. It's like this. like weird juxtaposition of like, all. right, that was weird, but that was. awesome. Uh but ooh, it's like that girl who was. on She's like, huh? Huh? Oh, that's good gift. >> It's good, man. That's good. We just got. another one too right there of J.J. Watt.

Somebody rip that. I can't wait to. respond to somebody when they say. something stupid. I'm just going to drop. J.J. Watt in there doing a what's that? Conflicted J.J. Watt. One an absolute. stud. I know what you were talking about. though cuz a lot of people do judge. Texas A&M people, and you said. self-admittedly, I do think they all say. like. we do stuff different down here. That is. That is way, but they're all all in. So, that makes it cool. >> They wear those rings, too. They all get. rings, and that is a real real thing. I. mean, being in Houston like they have an. Aggie ring, and you wear your Aggie.

ring. It's not like like a Jostens high. school ring where you put it away. forever. I think they wear it. full time. I think yeah, I don't know which finger. it goes on. It actually might be a Yeah, on your finger. Like they wear an Aggie. ring. That is a real thing. You'll see it like. out at dinner they Aggie. And they what? And they yeah, look at. this ring. If it was just pinky rings. only and they called themselves the. Texas A&M Dawns, and then every time. they saw each other they pinky to pinky. with that, that'd be a pretty cool. little thing. Let's try to get one of these dawn rings. this weekend. Let's earn one this.

weekend with our yelling. Let's do that. All right, is that the ring? Dude, great research. Super speed, guys. Really good job back there. >> Good pull, Bruce. Good pull, Bruce. Uh. is there any other information on this. website here about this, Bruce? Is it. like an alumni ring or is it like when. you're a current student? When you. graduate. No, when you graduate, you get. the ring. The Aggie ring. One of the. greatest moments for an Aggie is the day. they receive their Aggie ring. As the. most visible sign of the Aggie network, the Aggie ring is a unique. representation of achievement as it can.

only be ordered when a student completes. specific academic Well, we got no shop, boys. Well, congrats to all of them. Congrats. to all of them. All right, J, you're the. man. Have a great weekend, and let's. bring BALLS TOWN BACK. IT'S not dead if. it never started. Right? It just hasn't. started yet. True. It had to be terrible, right? Is that. why it didn't sell? It's cartoon, and. it's J.J. Watt. You would think they. would get sold. pretty quickly. You would think that. I. won't I mean, he did say something along. Maybe it was like, "We love this. We.

want. nine seasons and 100 episodes of this.". And he was like, "That's I don't know if. I want to sign up for that. >> Yeah. >> So, maybe us bringing it up almost put. him back into like uh. oh, no, you just helped the people who. are telling me that they we should do. this. They got a little bit more. leverage now because there is a demand. for it because A.J. Hawk remembered it. with 20 seconds left in the show, which. is good thing cuz I think sports one of. those would be good for kids. My kids would love it. Yeah. I've been. meaning to ask him for like 8 weeks. I. just never thought to bring it up till.

right then, for real. Maybe 12 weeks. probably. I've been meaning to ask. I'm. happy we got a a Hey, it's big day. today. We should get you a an Aggie ring to. celebrate [laughter] the achievement of. being a Don. I can't wait to get down there. And obviously, you said I've seen some. videos I don't know if they're real or. not. I do think they are real, and I. think. >> That's an honest That's an honest. statement I made, for real. >> I know. And I think we were all thinking. the same thing when we saw them. We're. like, nope, can't be. That's not how it. is. But then you get down there and you.

think, oh, everybody that's ever been. here is all bought in on this. And then. you start thinking about other people's. what do they do as their traditions and. everything like that. It's like, oh, this is just how they go about doing. their [ __ ] But what I do know is it. provides an electric environment for. College Game Day every time we've been. down there. It's been awesome. I assume. every game that happens down there is. awesome. And now they got a team in the. playoff, it's going to be. absurd down there. So, is it it's at. midnight? This goes on for how long? The. yell? Yeah. I don't We've never been. I've no idea. But like do they go home.

and then come back, get some sleep, and. then come back for the game? >> Uh from my understanding because I've. been down there and I walked around. town, and Gumpy, remind me if I'm wrong. here. There was people camping out of. the stadium to get into the stadium. overnight. So, I I don't And but not. everybody that goes into the midnight. yell could camp out at the stadium. because I think they're filling that. thing up with like 50,000, 40,000 people. at midnight the night before games. I. think Is it exactly at midnight? Is it. around midnight? How long it is? We. don't really know any of those things. We just know that we were asked if we.

wanted to come see it, and that was an. immediate yep. Yep, can't wait to see. that. I'm excited for it. But a midnight. pep rally is crazy to think about the. night before every home game. That's. like a lot of commitment, which once. again goes to they do things that nobody. else does, but everybody's all in, which. makes it a cool experience to kind of. J's point. >> Yeah, when we were there, it started at. like 11:30 they started letting people. in. I'm not sure if they actually kick. it off at midnight because there's. 10,000 I mean, 40,000, 50,000 people. literally lined up around the stadium to. get into this place, and then some of.

them were camping out just around where. Game Day was. They had those kind of. pockets. not trailers, but like there were little. tents around. I'm not sure if they're. actually camped for the game, but they. were camped for Game Day. Like and they. were and they had their own little like. areas, tents, kind of similar to Bama. How Bama had like a tent set up behind. Game Day, but but I'm not sure if it's. exactly the same, but yeah, I mean, they. started letting people in, and I mean, they might not be able to get it going. by midnight just because so many people. are lined up, and they got to get. everyone in. It's a It's a wild thing to.

witness cuz it's like. these people are not just fans of their. team. It's like they are so committed. So, whenever a win happens, it's like it. was all worth it, you know? It's like. the highs and the lows whenever you're. that fully committed to something are. more. So, I think that's why the. environment is created to be what it is. because it's like a very big investment. to be a fan down there. >> They definitely have great fans. We. played them in a my junior year we. played them in a bowl game in the Alamo. Bowl, which was in Texas, so they. traveled well to that game, and.

we did a pep rally, and they did like a. miniature version of that, and I was. like, oh. I mean, that was pretty intense with. 3,000. >> And you guys have a good cult. yourselves. >> We had We had a great following. It was. a great game, and we filled up the Alamo. Dome. It was It was a great game. >> Yeah, it was for a bowl game? It was a. bowl game. They had Von Miller, Michael. Bennett, Red Bryant on their defensive. line. I mean, they were good. >> Nobody cares about these bowl games. anymore. I'm about done with that. Yeah. We need to bring back the. Who wants to matter? No. Good luck. I mean, this this this. >> All the bowl games need to matter. This.

is a bonus game for these boys. It's dead, right? We got two CFP games. that don't [ __ ] matter. Cuz these stupid [ __ ] little schools. they need to get rid of all that [ __ ]. [ __ ] done. At least we got college. football this What about the bonus games. that the boys worked hard for all. season? >> Absolutely. They should turn them into. high school showcase games because all. the good players from these teams don't. play. And then all the all the players. who are still on the team probably won't. even be on the team next year cuz. they're going to transfer. >> But but and a bowl game provides another.

spotlight on a player to potentially. transfer or for a team's coach to. potentially move or for the team to look. like their ass on a grander stage. But. it's always for the gamblers. Isn't that. always the thing like, well, bowl bowl. season will always exist because it. always does ratings, and it it will. always have a lot of people invested. because of the gambling. Let's go to one. half of the hammer. Don. Cowboys. And. hammer. Don. Don. Uh AP tone. I didn't I. haven't heard much about bowl season. gambling or even watching habits like.

what the last 2 years basically, right? Have you? Is there going to be a What is. kind of the combo of the change in. perspective or change in. I guess. relevance of entire bowl season? What. does it look like? Are they going to get. I don't think it's a like as far as. gambling is concerned, I don't think the. bowl season is affected at all. People. are going to bet on it because it's a. game and it's happening and it's on TV. And also people are going to do the same. thing mostly watching it. I assume the. numbers are going to be down as far as. watching because yes, the games don't. matter as much, and eventually bowl.

season will probably end and die, especially once the college football. playoff. expands, but you know, that's that's. fine. I mean, it was great what last. year. >> I'm a Gator Bowl champ. Good run. Okay. Yep. I'm a Meineke Car Care Bowl champ. There you go. Go bowl. West Virginia has. been multiple time Mayo Bowl champs. Mhm. Okay. There's some Pop-Tarts Bowl. And today we find out who the Staff DNA. Cure Bowl champion will be. >> Cool. I've been waiting for this one. Old Dominion at South Florida. South.

Florida favored by 2 and 1/2. >> It is what I mean. >> The FBI projection says South Florida. should win by about 5.8 points. You're. getting good points on spread just from. the prediction model to what sportsbooks. are saying. And then the 68 Ventures. Bowl. Bowl. This ain't 60 Ventures. This. ain't 62. Not even 67. This is 68. Ventures Bowl. Louisiana favored by. three against Delaware. This is what. we're talking about here with bowl. season. >> Hell yeah. We're telling what Tone,

you're saying people will just bet on it. because it exists? Yeah, we had a team. ride yesterday on Jack State. Everyone. in in Hammer Dahn Town. And they won cuz you can still win money. off of these games. The FBI also doesn't. do the research on what quarterbacks and. and the opt-outs and stuff like that. So. I wouldn't trust that FBI much. >> Are you guys breaking down. >> Oh yeah. bowl season on Hammer? Every. single game. Every single game. They should do the NIT. No, these guys? No. >> Hammer Dahn. >> The the these bowl games, they should.

just do an NIT type tournament. Like if. we're going to do a college football. playoff. Instead of doing random bowl. games every night do do an NIT That's. not a bad idea. That's more shitty bowl. game. No. It matters. It's less. We are the not. real champions. Same guys that opted. out. >> No. There's a national champion. Opted. out. And then there's the not real. champion. You have a New Year's Six. Bowl. You you can end it on January 1st. >> basis. >> Yeah, they're part of the deal. But but. I mean now the New Year's Six we only.

have what? Two New Year's Six Bowls? >> You're telling me Michigan Texas doesn't. deserve to be in the not actual champion. champion bowl. I think it should be. Cheez-It Bowl by the way always brings. it. >> Still great bowl. You know, the Reli-. the Reli-a-Quest Bowl. It's a marquee. bowl still. So you know, those are the. ones that we really can't get rid of. Some of these other [ __ ] ones like. the 68 Ventures one we could probably. see that go away. >> DNA? Staff DNA I've been juiced up for. this one for a while because Old. Dominion's quarterback is very good. So. yeah, exactly. So we'll see. That one is.

obviously everyone's going to be looking. towards that. >> Byron Brown's not playing. No, he's not. Well, who is Who's Byron. Brown? Exactly. Exactly. Boom. >> not That's South Florida. >> Boom. It's South Florida. I'll talk. about Old Dominion. Old Dominion run. game unbelievable. >> Oh, it's it's Tone, it sounds like. you're heavy on Old Dominion right now. Let's not tell too many people about. what's happening with South Florida. >> quarterback is also not playing cuz he's. going to be He's going to be one of the. higher quarterbacks in the transfer. portal. But their backup quarterback. played in the last game last year, ran. for over 200 yards. So yeah, maybe I am.

high on Old Dominion. I don't know. And. their Their coach isn't leaving. So. you're saying shh. Who had the idea to have the bowl games. at the beginning of the season? I think. that was the best idea. >> Sorry, what? Yeah, have start the season. out. Kind of how college basketball does. it with some of the you know, Big 10. versus AC or whoever. Just start out. First like if Texas and Ohio State had a. bowl game to start the season out. Okay, then then that way the bowl games are. still significant. You still get the. sponsors. You still get the money. Everybody cares. All the players play.

You got your coaches. Cuz. >> Doesn't count towards the regular. season. You just call yourself the. champion going into the season. >> It'll help with pre you know, rankings. going into the going into the the rest. of the season. >> And you'll be forced into playing a big. game as opposed to being scared to. playing one. >> No week zero. >> And if it gets understood like hey, this. is not your actual record. This is. literally just bowl game. You go into. the season as this bowl champion. >> Yeah. Then you can get the big names in. these shitty bowls. >> Exactly. That's good idea. I I had not heard. that. >> So it's like preseason. No, it's like. qualis in F1. It's like the Maui.

Invitational in basketball. It's a good comparison, Tone. Good comparison. It is like the qualis, I guess. It is like the Maui. Invitational. It is like a preseason, but it's basically a bowl game. of big significance. And then you go off. the rankings off of that. >> Yeah. Wow. This is a good idea. >> know who to give credit to, but it was. somebody with Man, imagine the Mayo. Bowl. Ohio State taking on Oregon. Okay, uh. I'm sorry, it would have to be an SEC.

school. It wouldn't be Ohio State versus. Oregon. Sorry, I apologize for getting. that wrong. >> Ohio State and LSU. OH, IN THE POP-TARTS. BOWL. >> YEAH, BINGO. Oh my god. >> Notre Dame still just skate on by and. not play anybody and just get their. ranking from everybody else. No. No. They would have to play Syracuse. >> be in the Notre Dame Bowl. >> They did. They would be in the Notre. Dame Bowl. Notre Dame people would be. like yeah, we're we can pay for. something to be named after us. Yeah, we'll do that. The Notre Dame Bowl will. take on Old Dominion. Bring them in. All. right.

That's not the reality of what their. schedule is. >> Good run game. Yeah, exactly. Backup quarterback went. for 200 last year in the last game. All. right, let's get to a break. We are the. worst, we know. We apologize. But some of this [ __ ] I'm so confused. by. I turn on Washington Boise State the. other night after the Heisman. They were. playing a bowl game. >> Yeah, the LA Bowl. Banger. Wait, there's. college football this weekend? That was the LA Bowl. Oh. Yeah, I watched it. >> another one, too. Wasn't the only game.

There's a lot of games. >> The first ever Xbox Bowl is tomorrow. night. Okay. Now I will download. >> them all Xboxes. Pretty cool. I think. that is pretty cool that Xbox decided. now to be in the bowl game. >> Wasn't it the PlayStation Fiesta Bowl, right? Yes, yeah. Yeah, Sony. That's. what we played. >> Bowl gifts were the best. I got to. admit. Bowl gifts when we were in. college was the best. >> The kids realizing they all got Xboxes. was actually awesome. I want to watch. because of that. Xbox Bowl was Missouri State versus. Arkansas State, you know, the Red. Wolves.

They're favored by 1 and 1/2. They're. all getting Xboxes, but you got to. Myrtle Beach you actually get an. opportunity to go down to Señor Frogs. and have a team meet. >> [laughter]. >> Hey, that's huge. That is worth way more. than an Xbox. If you've lived it, you. know it. Shout out to Señor Frogs. >> 11:00 a.m. kick. In Myrtle Beach? >> Yeah. That's going to be tough to get. to. >> [laughter]. >> That's going to be tough. Myrtle Beach. is a good time place. That's what that. is. That Señor Frogs was awesome. We were. there We were talking down there. We.

did. We had a talk. >> Should we do the simulcast. on Friday? From Señor Frogs? >> At 11:00 instead? >> Should. >> [laughter]. >> I'll tell you that place was awesome. I've never been to a more hospitable. place. A. a better time. for short period of time. Okay, I was. there for like 3 days for one of my. college friends was having his bachelor. party down there. Okay, we go down there. and we just do Myrtle Beach. We have an. Airbnb on the beach, which is obviously. awesome. It's Myrtle Beach, so it's. spectacular. It is a hilarious scene. And then boom, we went down to that. little area of bars. I don't know, it's.

their version of the South Side. It's. good little hangout down there. There's. live [music] music. They got it's good. It's pretty good. A lot of golfing down. there as well. And we ended up at Señor. Frogs every night just the whole time. And I was obviously I was having a good. time. Had a lot of money. Too much money. Should not have had the. money that I had. And I'm just buying. shots for literally everybody in that. place from the first moment I get there. till the last moment we leave. I was. calling them team meetings. Team. meeting, team meeting. Everybody. And it. kind of caught on. We go back 2 years later, I think, for. AQ's. Same exact setup. House on the beach.

Awesome. Spectacular. We go to Señor. Frogs. I walk in there. Manager guy who's still there, eyes. light up. And he goes team meeting. And. I'm like. >> [laughter]. >> Yes, actually. And we do another. damage. I'm talking 3 days down there. And I think I did it one more time, too, with somebody else. And it was like team. meeting. It's like yes, we did. Didn't. you Didn't you get poached from a Señor. Frogs when you were on a cruise and you. went to a party after? >> Yeah, and I missed I missed the boat. I. had to catch the boat at the next. [laughter] one. Yeah, Señor Frogs gets.

me, dude. Señor Frogs everybody knows what's going. on there. Yeah, Señor Frogs always a. good time. >> Great place. >> Great place. >> Team meeting was real, though. Oh yeah. We had a talk. There could have been a. little bit of an altercation at a place, too. And because of our relationship. with Señor Frogs. the people that I would say lost the. physical battle as well also were told. that they can never come back for the. rest of the week. Cuz everybody's there. for the weekend golfing, doing whatever. they got going on. So it's literally. like a new group every single weekend. So I'd like to let the Señor Frogs. people They might still be there. I have. no idea.

Same crew might still be running that. place. Just know you guys do a great. job. And we have. I'll say this for AQ and I. and I can say this amongst the others. We have gotten drunk in a lot of places. around this world. And uh. the Myrtle Beach one As good as they. come. >> One of the greatest One of the greatest. in the history. [laughter]. I mean, we had a blast down there. Myrtle Beach Bowl That's what we're. talking about, though. Ohio State LSU. Myrtle Beach Bowl. At Myrtle. Yes, that's what I'm talking about. >> know if we can get that. This You don't think so, Nate? Oh,

they're back? Is this this year? I know Marty McGee a. big part of their deal is they go down. to the the boardwalk. You know, they get. the airbrush t-shirts. They do the. saltwater taffy. And then they call the. game. So I'm hoping it's again this. year. I don't like that there's nobody. in the crowd. Okay? Need to change that. around. 11:00 a.m. Right in Señor Frogs. They're watching a game from there. >> They'll get there. Yep. They got a good. Señor Frogs there. >> Good little deck on the back on the. outside, too. See? That might be it. right there. >> There they are. Airbrush t-shirts, saltwater taffy.

Let's get to a break. What we're saying is more football is. good football, but if the football is. [ __ ] football, it's okay for the good of. football to not have that football. Be a. friend, tell a friend something nice. It. might change your life. We'll see on the. other side. Take five. Five. >> [music].

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[music]. >> This is my guy here named Ben Gaiman. What is your major? Psychology. Okay, you're a psychology major. You like.

you're a deep thinker, is that right? >> Yes, sir. Okay, is that going to help or. hurt you today, do you think? Maybe hurt. a little. Okay, well, I want to let you. know, psychology-wise, you should know. that there is a radiant energy of. positivity right to your left, Jelly. [cheering] Roll is here. So, Jelly Roll said, "Pat, I want to try. to win hundreds of thousands of dollars. for a charity in Athens. I WANT TO KICK. A BALL FOR $100,000. to give back to this community that is. embracing him as a part of it.". >> And I think I'm fixing to split the.

uprights right now. >> Okay, how much weight have you lost now? I've lost 250 lb for this moment, Georgia. I'm fixing to do it. ALL RIGHT, BEN. The kick is currently. $100,000 for you. If he makes it, he'll. go up to $250,000. We will also donate $100,000 to a local. charity. Jelly Roll. And I will match. that $100,000, so $200,000 to a local. charity, baby. Let's go, JELLY ROLL. OKAY, HERBIE WILL ALSO TOSS IN $100,000 TO.

CHARITY, which is very KIND OF HIM. $300,000. FOR CHARITY. >> [cheering]. >> ALL RIGHT. I'M WORRIED FOR MY TOWN. All right, what. can I do different, Pat? >> I think you could try to aim to the. right if I were you. Or, if you knew. somebody that was a very good kicker, I. think now would be a great time to just. go ahead and say, "Hey, why don't you do. that for me?" You know what? >> Why don't you raise some money for this. city? I'll make another $100,000. We'll make. it $300,000 to a local charity. Okay.

>> If you'll let me pick up the LEGENDARY. HOT ROD FROM GEORGIA BACK HERE, BABY. My. boy, [cheering]. HOT ROD IS IN THE HOUSE TODAY. All. right, straight to see you. You look. fantastic. Thank you for your service to. the Colts. Can't wait to see you back in. the NFL. Okay, so he'll put up How much. you put up, Jelly? >> $200,000 for a charity right here in. Georgia, Athens, Georgia. >> I'll put up $200,000 as well. Kirk will. put up $200,000. We got a $600,000. donation, and Ben's kick will be WORTH. $400,000. THIS COULD BE A MILLION.

DOLLARS HERE. 33 YD. HOT ROD, POTENTIALLY A MILLION ON. THE LINE. >> [cheering]. >> STILL GOT IT. STILL GOT IT. THIS IS VERY EXPENSIVE. >> [cheering].

[cheering]. >> During commercial break, there was no. way we were going to be able to get out. of that law and not tear it without. giving him another shot. $100,000 bucks, he knocks it through. Pump for Ben. Thankful for Hot Rod. >> [music]. [music].

>> They all commit and love what's going on. in that weight room. They all commit and. love what Jim Harbaugh is preaching. And. everybody in the building tapping. Everybody's like they're excited to be. there. It is infectious, the thing they got. going on. And how many owners are. spending $300 million. on a new facility, just for the practice. facility?

But then for them to do it upright for. last couple It's like. Look out for the Chargers, dude. Look. out for the Chargers.

I love the high five. Yeah, give each other A HIGH FIVE. >> [screaming]. [laughter].

>> THAT IS INCREDIBLE. OBVIOUSLY, national. champion Michigan man, the greatest high. five. Yeah, cuz of what you brought for. the high five world. >> [music]. >> He tried to give a handshake to that. particular high five trophy. >> [laughter]. >> Did break the hand off. We had to put it. back on.

>> [laughter]. >> We have so much respect for. >> [laughter]. >> I mean, wow, looks like a lot of.

highlights against one particular team. He's played more than one game. for one game. Imposing our will. I love that Chargers team even more now. Young people all across this country, if. you served in the military, we want you. to know that when you get out of the. military, no matter how long you served, there are veterans benefits that you've. earned. Make sure that you find out.

about those. They can help you get. started with a new home. They can help. you get started in business. They can. send you to school or give vocational. training. Look, this isn't about the old. stuffy VA that you heard about from your. from your relatives, your parents. This. is about a VA that's focused on one. thing and one thing only. That's our our. veteran. So, you know that you're out. there. We love you. We support you. This. secretary wants you to know these. benefits are for you. Don't let them for. somebody else. They're there for you and. the service that you did. You raised. your right hand. Now, let us raise our. hand and serve you. Pat, y'all have a. great day down there. We have a great Texas boy named.

John. Okay, what's your last name, John? Uh John Matocha. Have you ever kicked a. ball before? I have. When? Uh growing up, I played soccer. In high. school, I kicked kickoffs and onside. >> Okay. All right, so I've never met anybody. that just kicked kickoffs and onside. Does that mean cuz you couldn't hit the. broadside of the barn [laughter] with a. football? So, my junior year, I missed an extra point. We lost the. state champs by one, and I was removed.

REDEMPTION COMES TODAY FOR YOU, JOHN. Here's the deal. Redemption is obviously. sweet. >> here. He's going to He's taking his He's. taking his his shoes off. >> Okay, we're going to barefoot. OKAY, WE. GOT the Texas Tech Red Raiders. cheerleaders squad, which I believe is. the best in the country as well. We got. We GOT FINGER GUNS ALL OVER THE PLACE. WE GOT PHONES EVERYWHERE TRYING TO. WITNESS THIS MOMENT THAT YOU WILL. REMEMBER FOREVER. YOUR KICKING STORY. doesn't have to end with a missed extra. point, brother. It can END WITH ONE KICK.

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Nine-year NFL vet Darius J. Butler, host. of Everything DB, Good D, Bad D, which. we will see in a matter of moments. And. 12-year NFL vet, Super Bowl champion AQ. Shipley is here. AQ, it's Wednesday, which means it's time to learn which. offensive lines were good, which. offensive lines were bad. Let's go to. the top five performing offensive lines. of week 15 in the trenches of AQ. Shipley. Who's the number five. performing offensive line? The Rams. Congratulations to the number one team. in the NFC. I love this group right now.

and I love the two-headed monster they. have with Kyren Williams and Blake. Corum, but their offensive line has been. fantastic. Great in pass pro, great in. the run game. Simple outside zone play. here to the right. I love this pull. around by the center. You cut the. defense, you get that, and then all of a. sudden there goes Kyren Williams. 70-plus yards for him, 70-plus yards for. Blake Corum each of the last couple. weeks. Um so, I think what the Rams. wanted to do initially is just punch the. Lions in the mouth, okay? And they. walked right down and right through this.

Detroit Lions team. But it's not just. the Lions they were able to do it. It. seems like they do it to a lot of teams. McVay's team, Stafford MVP favorite, they don't not scared to pound the rock, though. No, and he does a great job. I. think he takes a look at what the. defense is doing on the first drive of. the game. Like last week against the. Cardinals, they come out and they go. dime because they think the Rams are. just going to throw the ball all over. the yard. They come out in dime, he just. starts pounding the rock, and they just. boom, 10 yards, 10 yards, 10 yards. Boom, break one, and then all of a. sudden you get a touchdown. So. >> against the Lions. >> Do the same thing. Basically do the same.

thing. Wow, Foxy, it's tough times. This. year you're on the receiving end of. that. And Matthew Stafford always going. to have a little bit of spite towards. the Detroit Lions with how that all went. down. >> Yeah, I'll tell you what, everyone's. talking about Stafford, Puka, Davante in. that game. The run game impressed me. more than anything. The Lions all year. long have been really good against the. run except for in that game right there, which proves how good the Rams really. are. The Lions, too, are just like the. Chargers. Like they're always. snakebitten by injury. It feels like. that. It's too much to overcome against, you know, the teams like the Rams who.

are at the top of the league. >> Who's the number four performing. offensive line from week 15? The. Philadelphia Eagles are back in the mix. WAY TO GO. EVERYTHING'S UP INTO THE. RIGHT. 31 zip. Yeah, big shout-out to. Fred Johnson. He's been filling in for. Lane Johnson very admirably, but here's. why I wanted to put this play on. Could. have shown a bunch of other runs, but. this is why. Their empty run package has. been one of the best over the years. If. you remember back to when Jason Kelce. was there, they would do the draw, they. would do all the different things out of. empty. They got back to it a little bit. this week. Jalen Hurts hasn't run it. very much, but here you go. You get the.

empty package, you get the draw, get him. out in space. This is what they need to. do moving forward towards the playoffs. >> Third and 12 here, so obviously the. Raiders want to drop everybody. That's. why they don't have uh That's why they. have a massive hole on the defensive. line right in front of where the. quarterback is. They were looking for an. obvious pass situation. >> 100%. They think it's pass, but again, this is what they can do and this is. what Jalen Hurts can do. But also, if. you guys haven't noticed, the Raiders. have been on the receiving end of this. almost every week all season long. >> So bad. Yeah. Not good. So bad. I thought.

Cuz Tom Brady's here. You just got to. give Peace some time to get his guys in. there. Well, he has He's fired them all. Yeah. Oh, yeah, that's a good point. >> New guys, though. He's This second batch. is always his best batch. Yeah, I guess you're right. Yeah. He's gone. He is soon. Yeah. I mean, so what are they? Well, I mean, there's a guy There's a. guy they might get at the top of the. draft that might turn that whole entire. place around. Oh, Mendoza is so good at. football. >> He's got power. I mean, we we talked. about uh Mahomes and Kelce. Like all the.

Raiders need is a quarterback for that. Brock Bowers fella. >> [laughter]. >> Well, Gentry. They need five guys up. front, period. Only Five? Allegedly the. rookie they just put in is really, really good in the uh O-line coach have. been holding him back the whole entire. year, and I don't even want to go into. the why. >> round pick. Yeah, he's he's done a good. job, and Kolton Miller's their best. offensive lineman. He's been out for. injury, so maybe not five, maybe three, but. >> Chicago did that one off season. Go get. three, just like Chicago. >> did as well. Yeah, Tom Brady obviously. is around there, so we assume sound. decisions will be made, but they've.

struck out on everything they did this. year. >> [laughter]. >> I mean, that is a clean sweep, you know. It's just like with the Jets, everybody's like, they they got a lot of. opportunity to make the right decision. and and kind of fix this entire thing. next year. It's like, they already. picked Justin Fields, didn't they? That. didn't work. The owner came out and was. like, "Ugh.". We don't have. We don't have a quarterback on the. football field, so I mean, that whole. thing. So, we assume they'll get it. right. We assume Tom Brady will get it. right. AJ, is that what we assume? Yeah, we all we assume. I guess the. question is how long does it take? I. don't know. How's.

Nope, not getting into it. >> What's that? Got to get your franchise. quarterback first, but yeah, you. definitely should. you know, finish your thought. How's. what? Nope. Looks like it was going to be a good. question. It was going to be very good. Well, I was just going to say like, I. assume Tom Brady gets it right. Because that's just like what Tom Brady. does. >> I'm not assuming that anymore. TB12 won. big, right? Is it I Yeah. Big into the. into the Noble brand, right? So, I mean, there's no guarantee. I guess there's no. guarantee. I mean, Michael Jordan was. the owner of a basketball squad. Yeah,

exactly. >> Exactly. He's not playing, he's not. coaching. [ __ ] he's not even I mean, how often is he actually there? What we. heard. he was pretty in the off in the off. season. And then the season started, and. he's got his job with Fox. So, it's. like, how much is he I mean, I assume, you know, he he he owns a piece of the. team, so he's probably involved to some. degree, but like he has a full-time job. with Fox. >> We assume Tom Brady will figure it out. All in favor say I. I. I. Whoa. IT WAS A. QUIET ROOM RIGHT THERE. YOU DIDN'T SAY.

ANYTHING. You didn't I want to. I do, too. To Ty's. point, he's not there. If you told me. Tom was going to be there every day. 100%. 100% he'd figure it out. But doing this and being a part owner. and maybe doing being there more in the. off season. I don't see it. Yes, man was had his. hands inside of your thighs. AQ Shipley. But he's not there during the season. Not there during the season. And you got. to fix the offensive line. They fix the. offensive line, they'll be all right. And you get Fernando Mendoza. Maybe he. starts there. Hey, who's calling the.

plays, though? Who is uh Well, that's I. I think that's the biggest thing for me. Like I think he screwed up hiring Pete. Carroll. And like that. That was the big and Chip. Yeah, like. that was the big the the staff itself. Like I think if you if if he gets And. this guy. Who's that? The offensive line coach. Oh, Jesus. I I. knew you were taking it. That's Pete's. son, okay? That That Yeah, come on. What. was that again? I didn't see him. Oh, there he is. There he is right there. What's that? What is that? He's Undertaker? That's.

what he was doing the whole interview. You haven't seen this video? No. No. No. idea what you're talking about. >> Yes, EVERYBODY'S SEEN IT. EVERYBODY. I. HAVE NOT. WE TALKED ABOUT IT WEEKS AGO. NO, IT. FEELS like you might have had good. conversations about this. Uh he's giving. >> I watched it with Connor. Uh I don't. really watch stuff. Look, guy The guy. I'm watching a video down on the small. screen. Maybe we did see this a long. time ago. It's when he was blinking, but. he wasn't really there. You know, it's. Everybody operates differently on. camera. >> That's what it looks like. Dwight.

Schrute's brother. Yeah. Whatever the. case, uh you're saying whole new O-line. is needed. Yeah, whole new offensive. staff, I think, is where we're heading. And then obviously get rid of McMahon as. well, special teams. So, new uh whole. new operation. They haven't fired their. defensive coordinator yet, even though. their defense [ __ ] sucks, too, but 31. zip right there and always end up on the. receiving end of uh the best offensive. lines in the league. Yep. They'll figure. it out. They'll Maxx Crosby's here. And. Brock Bowers. Gentry. You got a O-line, you got Gentry as well. They could turn. that around, I think. That's a special. place. Could be a special place. >> a lot of things.

Defense, offense staff, special teams. Three, four new O-linemen, franchise. quarterback. I mean, you. That's one one good off season. Tom. Brady. Yeah. He could do it. Sure. Tom Brady. could do it if he's more hands-on. Con man said he believes I believe in. Tom Brady as well. All right, let's go. to the number three performing offensive. line out of week 15. Houston Texans, I. thought they were just a good defense. They're starting to get better. They're. starting to get better on the offensive. line. Big Trent Brown playing well. He's. about 400 lb out there. Big number 77. right there at the right tackle. >> Hell yeah. This is old school duo. Best.

play in football. Watch this hole open. up right between center and guard. Look. at that thing. What he marks. This guy's. unbelievable. Before he got hurt, scored. an unbelievable touchdown on a. fake. uh what do you want to call it? A fake. snap. It wasn't a snap, but pretty. awesome. But this is the best play in. football. All the teams that are going. to play in the playoffs are good at this. particular play because you get double. teams, and it's a physical football. play. >> Yeah, and you got to be able to just. move men. Like you got to be able to.

move men. This is a powerful football uh. play. This is showcasing what you are, I. guess. And we talk about the Raiders. always being on this. Feels like the. Cardinals also are because AQ sees it. live and in person and he goes, "Wow, this team is actually pretty good when. I'm watching them play against this. Cardinals team." Is that potentially the. case? Is it the Cardinals? Cuz I saw. Calais Campbell block a kick, and then I. obviously saw them lose by 20 again. But. is it the D-line? Is it just a or the. Houston Texans offensive line is for. real against whoever they're playing? Yeah, I think it's a little bit of both. I think the Cardinals have really gone.

downhill on defense the last couple of. weeks, so they've been on here, obviously, on the receiving end the last. couple weeks. But I think this Houston. Texans team up front has gotten better. They've got the run game going. They. like Woody Marks. They released Damien. Pierce, who I used to really like as a. running back, because they like Woody. Marks, the rookie running back. And then. obviously C.J. Stroud's been really. good. They're starting to get They're. starting to get rolling right at the. right time. Bless you. That's what it That was from. the soul right there. Congratulations on being voted the. number two local booth in the entire.

NFL. Wow. Congratulations. Thank you. Thank you. This is about This is about. 35 different uh commentary teams that. were scored because some teams have a. rotating crew that call the local radio. version of NFL games. Really, the. backbone, I think, of the NFL is the. local crew because back in the day that. was the only way you could really follow. your team. They were the voice of the. team. They told the story of the team in. which your town had. Myron Cope, obviously, in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania,

is a huge piece of the Pittsburgh. Steelers story, but it's also a huge. piece of our lives whenever we were. growing up. And how he decided to call a. game and what he decided to point out. was what everybody knew. So, you. stepping in and doing it in 1 year, and. it doesn't matter who's doing the. voting, and whether or not we have any. respect for them as a group, but the. fact that there is voting and you end up. being second as opposed anywhere else, you should be incredibly proud of, especially for your first year. >> Thank you. Thank you. Congratulations. >> Appreciate that. You're not ass.

Try not to be. I guess there's some real ass teams out. there. >> Sounds like. >> From the read up, I guess there's some. really terrible stuff. I guess I We only. hear it in the preseason. Remember, that's a showcase. Preseason is when. we're going to find out about you. because the local teams do a lot of the. games. So, whenever we're watching. preseason games, we hear the local crew. And boy, some of them are [ __ ]. terrible, but. we're going to have a gift whenever. you're on our team. >> Well, it's also the hardest time to call. games because there's 90 guys on the. roster. So, you're trying to learn all. these names of guys who probably aren't. going to be there. It's a little It's a.

little tougher in the preseason. >> Effort's ever been higher. Little. tougher in the preseason. >> That's big, too. NFL like got to know. the names. You got to know where they. You got to know what city like You got. to know that [ __ ]. >> Yeah, you got to know it inside and out. Especially if you're the local guy. Like hey, we are coming to you. You are. the one that is supposed to know. So, we. would like you to know we're proud of. you. We're happy for you. And we're. happy you're not ass out there. >> Thank you. No problem. Speaking of not. ass, who's the number two offensive line. coming out of week 15? >> Yeah, these next two certainly aren't. Number two, the Chicago Bears.

>> Wow. Giant time. Yeah, I really like. this group. Obviously, Caleb Williams. played fantastic in this game, but the. run game is continuing to impress. It. starts up front with a Ben Johnson team. Let's watch this outside zone here to. the right. We're going to send 81 in. motion. He serves as the full back. Look. at go Let's run that back one more time. Look at big Darnell Wright. He's going. to work with Colston Loveland on the. combo. He's got to peek inside cuz. that's his backer. Yeah, but just get a. little shoulder on him. Open that big. hole. Swift does the rest. See you. Keep. him moving to get in the end zone. >> Myles Garrett had seven sacks, but I. understand that the Chicago Bears.

offensive line is getting better. They. invested in it in the offseason, and. it's a a necessity, right, for this. offense that Ben Johnson runs. >> Yeah, they've been fantastic. I think. Joe Thuney's having as good a year as. he's ever had, and he's one of the best. ever do it. I think obviously, what. they've done in bringing in three new. guys in the middle, and then what. Darnell Wright has turned into, in my. opinion, he's the best right tackle in. football right now. >> Ben Johnson's offensive calling and play. design help offensive lineman, or how do. you think he gets three new people to. buy in so quickly and gel together?

>> Yeah, it's it's very similar to what. Shanahan and McVay do. They do such a. good job. It's all this right there. You. You get people to bump. You create new. leverage. You get people to bump out of. the box, and then you create leverage. where everybody's working back. So, everything that he does with the window. dressing, with the shifts, with the. motions, it helps the boys up front. And. then, you're always working back to a. guy instead of working out leveraged for. to the front side guy. >> So, maybe the Raiders try to find. somebody like Ben Johnson's offense, but. is there anybody like Ben Johnson? Uh. there's I mean, Shanahan and McVay are. as good as they come, but they're.

completely different than what Ben. Johnson's doing. He's creative, but he. also does a fantastic job of setting. things up. It's very similar to McVay. And And Shanahan does the same thing. So, those three are pretty similar. >> different style offenses. >> Different style offenses, but they all. do a great job. If you watch just the. film, I mean, you know this, it's. different than watching the TV copy, but. you cuz now you get a feel for how they. sequence their plays. >> Mhm. And if you watch it, it's like, oh, okay, play four, they did this. Play. nine, they did this, but that's off of. play four. Then you see play 16, and it. was something off of play four, little.

different than nine, got to a different. formation, but all of a sudden on play. 15, they got to what they wanted to get. to. >> So, it's Luke Kuechly earlier saying, whenever somebody does something, you. have to start thinking like, wait, why. did they show us that? They're looking. to do something else. These guys do this. actively in every single week. >> Absolutely. And I think I've heard I. heard a great quote from Shanahan one. time where it said that he's watching. the linebackers, and all he's doing is. watching the linebackers on all of the. runs early. And when he sees the. linebackers fully commit to the run, that's when the play-action pass comes.

Yeah, we got to wait until we get them. on the hook. Yep. We got to wait until. we get them sucked up, AJ. All they're. trying to do is Shanahan was just. eyeballing you the whole time seeing if. he got you sucked up or not. Yeah, he's smart. I tell you what. though, you you get a few like good 8, 10, 12-yard runs early in the game, you're going to suck those linebackers. up very quick. Yeah, those long ones get. sucked up quick. You know, because you. have to respect it. >> Jeez. Have to. And you used to stick your nose up in. there, too, didn't you? I mean, you had. to. I mean, yeah, a good hard run fake will.

get you sucked up, no question. >> And you. cuz you don't want another long one. coming down. You know, you know, you you. don't want another one of those. You. don't want one of those. You throw your. head up in there, and you're screwed, man. See you. Oh, I didn't even think. about getting screwed in this entire. thing. Jeez, Louise. You're right. I. guess one thing leads to a. Who's the number one offensive line in. week 15 of the NFL season? The Buffalo. Bills with number one. >> Wow. AFC East reigns supreme.

>> [ __ ] man. Yeah, the interesting thing. was New England was right there until. they end up blowing this game cuz they. had a great performance up front as. well. But, you take a look at this. Remember what we talked about earlier? That duo play? Remember when we watched. what the Buffalo Bills did to the. Pittsburgh Steelers a couple weeks ago? It was that duo play. Guess what? When. push comes to shove and they need. something, give it to Cook on the duo. play. Look at the boys open up that. hole. Osiris Torrence has been. fantastic. Backside guard, David. Edwards, great job opening that thing. up. Spencer Brown, all the boys up front. have been fantastic. >> AJ, how's this stoppable? What What.

happens here cuz it feels like there's. pretty good thuds, pretty good contact. It's just all It works out good. >> Go ahead. Safety Safety's got to make a. tough tackle in space to get downhill, but yeah, you got to somehow I don't You. got to find a way to get I don't know. I. mean, they do a decent job building a. wall there for the Patriots, but it's. Yeah, look, safety's got to be down. instantly making a play. Foxy, can you. pause it right there? Okay, so. >> So, if you pause it right there, obviously, the hole's front side, and he. hits he hits it exactly where he's. supposed to hit it. It's a front side A. gap between center and guard play. But, here's the thing. If you run this play.

over and over and over again, then what. happens is see that backside linebacker. uh in the top left of that circle that's. holding like holding like this on the. backside guard? >> Yep. Well, then they start to get a. little bit nosey. They play over the. top. Remember a couple weeks ago I said. the juiciest cut in football? It's that. backside A gap, B gap right there. And. that's what happens. You get them to. bite and get nosey over the top, and. then boom, you hit it out the backside. >> Yeah, but D But, he can't get sucked up. there as a safety because then they'll. drop one over top of them, right? >> Uh it's it's tough down in the corner if. he does that, but you got to show up and.

be that extra guy, fill that alley as we. call it. But, I mean, it's a one-on-one. tackle with James Cook in open field. And James Cook, what he just get paid. 20-something million dollars a year? Like he's not getting paid that money or. or hop not that much, but a bunch of. money to break tackles in open field. So, that's what he's going to do. James. Cook is a very good player. >> Unbelievable. Phenomenal. He's an. unbelievable football player. They got. as good of blocking tight ends as they. have in the league, too. They drafted. Jackson Haws, who's fantastic. Knox has. been fantastic. >> Haws in the Haws. Yeah, they're great. Jack Jack, they've been great. You got your top five performing.

offensive lines in week 15. Good. football teams. Those are really good. football teams. All those teams very. much alive. All those teams can very. much win a Lombardi. At this stage, what. AQ Shipley's saying is it's going to be. the Buffalo Bills. Unless he does what. he did last year, which is put the team. that has the best offensive line at one, and then say, "Well, actually, it's. going to be the fourth best offensive. line that's going to win it all." And. then we're saying, "Well, why are we. judging what the offensive lines are. saying then if it's not the one, and. it's going to be the four?" And he said, "Well, it's not just the offensive line. that's playing." It's like, "Well, that's kind of the entire point of the. whole thing." Remember that?

>> I do, yeah. He put the Eagles at one, but didn't think they were going to win. the Super Bowl because you. >> hate Jalen Hurts got sacked. So, you. couldn't even take the vic- couldn't. even take the victory lap on you having. the Philadelphia Eagles as the best. offensive line and winning the Super. Bowl because you were contradicting. yourself throughout a majority of the. season. >> I celebrated early when I FaceTimed you. guys last year as Stafford was getting. ready to drive for the game-winning. touchdown, then he got sacked. Do you. guys remember that? You guys were all. watching. >> Yeah, we're in Atlanta. Yep. Yep. I. said, "Here we go. WATCH HERE [laughter]. GO.". JALEN CARTER. AND THEN YOU GUYS CALLED. ME back like 2 minutes later like, "What. the hell happened?". >> Did you do that also.

for certain college football game? >> Yeah, Penn State-Indiana game. Yeah, I. was trying to really early celebrate. that one. >> Yeah, you were. And I think I actually. said to you, "Mendoza is about to walk. down the field.". >> That's exactly what you said. >> And he actually did. It was awesome to. watch. I didn't know if the kid had it. in him. I didn't know if Mendoza had it. in him. 100-some thousand, okay, still. showing up to those games, right? Yep. The cult very much there. Penn State has. five talent everywhere that could be. very good. Could say, "Oh, maybe they're. frontrunners. They just haven't had to. lead a lot, so now they're going to put. them away." It's like, Mendoza stands.

there, takes a 7-yard sack first play. All right, let's write it off, boys. You. know, let's say I assume that's exactly. what Mendoza said. Right back in next. play, and then delivers in crunch time. Yeah. Which would then go on to lead to. be a the only undefeated team in college. football, the number one seed in the. entire country. Oh, yeah. Heisman. winner, number one overall pick. What a moment. And you were [ __ ]. trying to think it wasn't going to. happen. Well, I mean, if that [ __ ] DB. would have just pushed him out the back. of the end zone. >> He tried. Yeah, >> [laughter]. >> what the hell are we doing here?

There was a play in an NFL game this. week where I saw it in my and I. FaceTimed my dad. My dad's like, "Who is. that Penn State guy who would have done. that?" Yeah, immediately. Always going. to think about that. Terry Smith could. have had a couple more wins. Yeah, and. they might be playing in the Xbox Bowl. Or the Mayo Bowl. Sure. E- Either of. these bowls. >> in a bowl game. What? >> Penn State? Penn State's in the. Pinstripe Bowl versus Clemson. Yankee. Stadium. >> How many wins do you guys have? >> Six and six. Wow, you guys got bowl. eligible. >> Yeah, Terry Smith brought it back three. in a row at the end. >> Is Matt Campbell coaching that, or who. is Terry coaching? >> Terry's coaching. As he should. Send him. out. >> he's remaining on staff. Highest-paid.

assistant college football that's a. non-coordinator. Congratulations Terry earned it. Western. Pennsylvania elected. Opted out. Got the boys together. What's. Yeah, you should opt it out of that one. Oh, the Pinstripe Bowl? Yeah. It's a. play in the outfield of Yankee Stadium, dude. Exactly. Babe Ruth. Exactly. Penn. State we're talking about. >> Yeah, Babe Ruth, [ __ ] Mickey Mantle. They played in that stadium? The. Pinstripe Bowl heard the Penn State. heard the Penn State was playing. They heard that they were playing and. they were just thanking to God. The. conversation's fine. They're like, no.

way Penn State accepts this, right? No. way. >> Well, Clemson too. Think of that. storyline. These were two top five. preseason teams. Penn State's going to. sell out that stadium though. Yeah, no. doubt. >> Yeah. The Pinstripe Bowl is like Yeah, thank God. >> Tell Penn State it's a good idea. Tell. them it's a good idea cuz their natural. instinct is going to be no, we're not. going to play in this Pinstripe Bowl. So, you got to go in there and tell them. it's good, it's good, it's good. But. really for us. this is our only option to sell this. [ __ ] out. Last year we had 15%. occupancy in this [ __ ] thing. It was. the most empty Yankee Stadium has ever. been. So, if we can somehow get Penn.

State to think it's a good idea, that. would be great for our business. Somebody went in there and was like. one more game for Terry Smith. That's. it. They did it. And you guys are going to fill that. place up. Yeah, I think nine of our guys. have already opted out of the game. though. Yeah, but Penn State people will. fill this [ __ ] up for sure cuz that is. literally and the amount of Penn State. people in New York I assume. Yeah, that's that's 80% of our demographic. Oh, good for the Pinstripe Bowl. See, this is what I'm talking about. That's. good business. We need whoever's running. the Pinstripe Bowl that was able to talk.

Penn State into doing this. That person. needs to be doing more in the. conversation of making things happen. Now, you were talking about who played. in that stadium, who didn't play in that. stadium. >> Yeah. The great Bambino. Yeah, none of those. guys played in that uh. new Yankee Stadium is fairly new. So, there really isn't any of the rich. history, tradition um that I was. referring to. Which is probably why. every single year the Pinstripe Bowl is. like, all right, let's just [ __ ] get. Rutgers in here. They're six and six. We. got enough people close enough in. Piscataway who maybe can't come to.

Yankee Stadium in the summer. They won't. come see in the winter. So, that that'll. work. So, I I I would agree. I'm sure. they are absolutely thrilled. And it was. probably the president. Allegedly, the. president just. knows what she's doing up at Penn State. She was probably the one that said, you. know what? I know where we should play. cuz I know where everyone will come. >> New York. >> Pinstripe Bowl, New York City. I do. wonder if they negotiated a percentage. of the ticketing sales. Like, hey, we. get a percentage of the ticket sales. though because we're going to fill your. Pinstripe Bowl up. So, congratulations. to you guys. There's a chance that. that's happening. Good business up. there, Penn State. Yeah, let's try it.

Matt Rhule, he won it last year. Let's. check in with Matt Rhule later. Beat up. Boston. We just saw him. He's out of the. bottle. Oh, yeah. Good point. Might be. rolling around in it. Yeah. Only got a. wrap, right? Yeah. Yeah. On his. uh Jeep. Yeah. Clean. Four-wheeler with. like a side-by-side. >> Yeah, for golf cart. On Rhule's house. It's not a golf cart. It's definitely. not a golf cart, Foxy. That was a golf. cart. It's a It's a UTV. One of one. Utility? Ultra. terrain vehicle. Not an ATV. Side-by-side I'd call it.

Four-wheeler? No, that's a four-wheeler. Like a. Can-Am? Side-by-side. Yeah, like a. Can-Am type. So, where we were we come. from. quad. Yeah. It's quad. Some people call that a. four-wheeler though. I call that a. four-wheeler. That's what I call a. four-wheeler. Okay, so you guys call. that a four-wheeler. We call it quad. Side-by-side is the two-seater with a. trailer in the back. It's got a little. truck bed. What do you call the I call it a. four-wheeler, the one that's like a. little outdoor car? There's two seats in the back, two in.

the front. It's like a little. buggy-looking thing, but it's awesome. What do you call that? Is that like a. Can-Am? Like a Can-Am type. dune buggy situation you're thinking? Yeah, like a souped-up It would not This. is a golf cart in my eyes, but like. I was used to call it a Gator cuz that. was like the John Deere brand name of. it. So, the Gator for me the Gator is. the truck. The back thing. Can you pull. up a You're saying doesn't have a bed. behind it at all. Yes. Yeah, I'm saying. the seats are in that that. So, it's a.

four This Yeah, I would I would call. this. I would call this one for Rhule a. side-by-side personally cuz it's a. two-seater with a truck bed in the back. basically is what this one is once they. get to it. Once they get to it. Oh my god, what's No, yeah, you got a. you got a ways to go here. Your promo. Yeah, this is an awesome. all-terrain vehicle in my eyes. This is. an incredible usage around if you have. any property. Okay, so that's the one. that's side-by-side. I'll call that one. a side-by-side as well. Four-wheeler is.

the one that I the the little car. It's. like a Yeah, I forget it. You know what. I'm talking about? Yeah, yeah, yeah. See, I thought like a four-wheeler. [laughter] a Polaris RZR is like. >> RZR, like a RZR, yes. Like one of those. Yeah. That's what you're calling it, like the little mini car thing that you. Yeah, I agree. But they call these. four-wheelers which are quads. So, I. love quads. Me too. I love quads. I'm a. big quad guy. We say all the same stuff. cuz it's Pittsburgh. We were talking. about that. >> Yeah, but we learned we're wrong, I. think. Everybody else thinks.

everybody else is wrong. vernacular Have. you heard about Kennywood's upgrade? Did. you see what I posted? I mean that. roller coaster is not Kennywood first of. all. That thing's unbelievable. >> Yeah, they put it in a dome like they do. dome in Disney World. You That That's at. Kennywood? They're building it right. now. Zero chance. That's two-seater RZR. Yeah, this would be a two-seater RZR. I. I would call this four-wheeler as well, but there's four-seaters of these. That's more of like a dune buggy sport. type thing that Matt Rhule thinks not. exactly a work I have a side-by-side. with a snow plow that I recently got and. I've been dominating the snow recently. in the winter. We've had two different.

snows. So, I've I've plowed four or five. different driveways. You got to put. sandbags in the back of that thing. though to give you a little bit more. weight on the wheels there to keep that. thing. >> should. I probably should, but it's. actually it's enough heavy duty right. now that I haven't had to put anything. in the back. These bad boys right there, these things wide ass open, good times. These are. These are dangerous. Me and Nick almost died one of these in. the woods of Indiana. Mhm. Almost died. Almost flipped that thing pretty. quickly. You got it though. Saved it. Beer saved. Shouldn't be.

>> [laughter]. >> Should not be doing any of the things. that we were doing. Zero seat belts. Flying through woods. Wide open. We're turning to the left. around a tree. Okay, got it. No problem. Been in this thing. Maybe we even do a. little fishtail on this thing. Maybe a. little bit of drift. Very comfortable. with car. Very comfortable with this. thing. Had been driving it a pretty good. amount. And I I think we were. uh I'd say pretty tuned up at the time. >> Had a couple pops. Had a couple So, pretty comfortable and confident in. basically anything at time which is part. of the problem. I'm not saying others. should do this. Everyone shouldn't. We. go around there and then we catch a.

groove and then I think it goes up on. two wheels. Oh, no. We we we work that thing back. Okay, now. we're going back the other way. Now. we're up on two wheels the other way. Now I put leg out. Okay, I'm going to. Save my life for us. I'm going to save. us. I'm going to save us in this thing. Pretty much the only thing we couldn't. afford to lose in that moment. >> Was legs. Legs out in this thing cuz it gets up on. this wheel. Cut it back. We get back. onto all four wheels and we stop. And there's a We look at each other.

Pretty big hole, boy. No seat belts. either of us. They certainly have full. rigs they're supposed to have on. And uh. there was crew of uh great. hillbillies I'll say. They're great So, great out great people. Indiana boys. Yeah, Indiana boys. They were Indiana. boys we were with out there and they. just looked AT IT LIKE, WOW. AND YOU. KNOW, ONE OF THOSE AND THEN IT was an. immediate beer. We're right back into. it. And then we're supposed to just keep. going as if that didn't happen. And we. did I would say. We had the power along. to showcase for Western Pennsylvania.

But those things are awesome. Those are. the Those are the coolest things in the. woods if you can get those because it it. does feel as if you're untouchable in. those, but you're not. No, you can die. easily. Some of them have the full cage. where like you can roll and just boom. boom Oh, yeah. They said full cage. They. said full cage. We had no seat belt on. Yeah, yeah. So, that almost makes it. worse cuz now you're you're now you're. bouncing around in a breaking your neck. Now you're now you're in the entire It. was bad idea. We immediately this one. right here. Immediately, yep. I think we. need to.

and I'm. I'm a I'm a I'm a stop doing that. Shut. beer down real quick. Let's go ahead and. let's get through this the rest of the. day. That was quite a buzzkill going. forward. I like the way the outdoors. people live though. Like those quads These things can go 70, 80, 90 miles an hour. It's like, holy [ __ ] Then you get some. of these. uh. ingenuitive. um. Southerners outdoors. I don't know what. to call them. Obviously break off the governor. We're. not going to do that. But then the way.

they're able to soup these things up to. go speeds that there's no way the body. of these the frame of these things is. supposed to go. The center of gravity is. nowhere near low enough for the car to. be or whatever to be going that fast. And then the sound of IT IS JUST. >> [screaming]. >> WIDE ASS OPEN. IT'S LIKE, YOU GUYS HAVE. A GOOD time out here. Jesus [ __ ]. Christ. >> Souping it up is actually a big part of. the hobby to them I think. They like. doing that more than riding it almost. >> Yeah, then cleaning it afterwards and. then fixing it afterwards. It's a whole. part of the process. It's a wind down. There's some music. It's a whole thing. Yeah. We need to start doing that. We. should do that. We live in Indiana. We.

can do that. We need to do that for. Bluey anyways. That's the only way we're. going to be able to get that [ __ ]. tired. We're going to have to be on quads. running him in circles. We're going to. have to tag in and out just doing laps. around this place. You think you'll be. able to take care of Bluey maybe. whenever you come out here, AQ? Sure. Are you a dog person? I was a dog. person. Now you're full cats. >> Full cat. Two cats. It's great. >> Dan Orlovsky said he hates cats, didn't. he? He did say that. Dan Orlovsky said. makes sense. I mean, the cats are Cats are the. coolest thing on Earth. You can't say you can't you hate cats if.

you've never had cats. Coolest on Earth? Would you agree? I like cats. I I. It's a sneaky. I'm not going to get into. the Coolest on Earth is a little much. >> I'm going to I'm going to say you I'm. going to We got to tell Orlovsky you. just said that he No, please. Dogs. obviously means better. I mean, they're. emphatically They're going to beat your. [ __ ] ass. >> They're point 06% DNA away from a lion. I mean, what are we talking about here, people? Yeah, I agree. Hey, living room. lion, bro. It's a real deal. Point 06? You a stats guy now, ain't you? Well, I. watched I watched exactly what he just. said lying in my living room documentary.

on Netflix a couple years ago. And. showcases how they can land on their. feet all the time and how athletic they. are and how agile are Arlovski doesn't. want to hear it. He's done with your. [ __ ]. >> Mhm. Perfect. >> To wrap up this glorious Wednesday by. learning about the defensive side of the. ball. It's always such a magical thing. to be able to hear what's good and. what's bad in good D bad D presented by. everything DB and Darius Butler. Darius. Butler. He started in Chicago and he's been all. year ton leading the NFL in. interceptions. CJ GJ has had some good.

games. He had a rough game against the. Packers, but he's had some good games. outside of that. This is great disguise. against the rookie Shedur Sanders. You. start running back from the beginning. Foxy starting on the line of scrimmage. showing middle close and going to get to. a cover three three deep four. underneath. He is the flat defender and. when you start up on the line of. scrimmage with this. disguise, it is very important that you. get with just as much you get your depth. because that width actually becomes your. depth. So, you'll see him as he gets. wider. He continues to climb against our. fending junior tight end here climbs,

fools the quarterback, jumps up, high. points the ball. Great job by CJ GJ. Veteran play fooling the rookie. quarterback. I love the fact. that the Chicago Bears are being. celebrated on. in the trenches. and everything DB every week. If you want to win, these are two places you would like to. be showcased at. And Ben Johnson once. again has been able to establish this as. just a normal thing for this Bears team.

When this has not been normal for. what the course of their entire. existence. >> Long time. I mean we saw them in the. Super Bowl was that '06 and kind of. since then they haven't been a great. team, but when they were in the Super. Bowl they had a great defense. So, you. got a defense that's feasting on. turnovers and their best linebackers. getting healthy. So, he'll be activated. soon with Edmonds. But their DBs have. been great. Byard we see him on here a. bunch. Right, Jaylon Johnson he had an. interception as well. He's finding his. form. So yeah, they're hitting on all. the cylinders and if you're in Chicago, if you're in this division, you want to.

be able to run the football obviously. and you want to be able to take the. football away. That's always a great. recipe for success. Stealing possessions. is good news. The weather's going to get. bad. How can you do? Wait a minute. Let's see another good D it looks like. from everything DB. Hell yeah, this is. what you kind of visualize I believe. last Friday with the reigning defensive. player of the year Patrick Surtain. And. right here is quarters coverage. Now. were some opportunities for the Rams to. be on here, but they they gave up a. couple touchdowns against the Lions both. in quarters coverage both with a post. And the reason you see that route. against quarters coverage, you'll see.

right here with the leverage. We talk. about leverage a lot. Patrick Surtain is. going to be outside leverage against the. post. Pause it here. So, uh. quarters coverage the safety he's. reading number two. So, you running back. to beginning his number two blocks. And. when your tight end blocks, that kind of. sits you down. You become a part of the. run fit, right? Cuz if they do run this. ball, he has a gap. He's kind of a half. man in the box. When they don't run and. when it's the play action, now as that. safety it's your responsibility to be. underneath that number one receiver. You.

you should take away the curl. You. should be underneath the curl route, underneath the dig right route, and then. you'll be underneath the post route as. well. So, the corner you're going to be. outside and over the top and then in a. perfect world you'll be able to undercut. and make this play. Christian Watson. obviously a blazer one of the fastest. receivers in the league. If you let it. run here, you got to have confidence. You got to have speed. You saw him just. put the head down, then get back, track. the ball, and go up and make a. phenomenal play on the football. This. Denver Broncos team's everything on the. defensive side that we thought they'd be. and how come Vance doesn't really get.

talked about for head coaching much? >> I think he will. I think people have. been around ball since that 70 point. game he gave up against the Dolphins. This defense has been obviously with the. sack numbers they've been on a record. pace. And then they got guys on the back. end that can cover. Hufanga was a great. great signing coming over, but Surtain. obviously his season has been kind of. short with the injury. He sat out some. games. Riley Moss he got an interception. on the tip ball on the crossing route, but he's a very good cover man as well. And then the guys up front they mix it. up and they'll get after you you know,

all game long. So, they'll be a tough. team to beat with Bo Nix playing how. he's playing. Very similar to what Caleb. Williams Caleb probably had his best. outing of the year as far as throwing. the football. If they can find their. footed Bo had his best outing of the. year on offense as well. So, they're. clicking on the right right cylinders at. the right time. There's a chance too. like Vance might fall into that Josh. McDaniels bucket where it's like, hey. I've done the head coach thing. Like I. got the best defense in the NFL and Sean. Payton Surtain. Yeah, you got the. Waltons who can pay me as much as Sean. Payton says or I want like the Broncos.

and Patriots both might have their. offense and defensive guys kind of set. for the forward and young quarterbacks. like Yeah. Hold on. Yeah, hold on. Broncos. Hold on Patriots. Congrats to. Broncos defense getting showcased yet. again. Oh, is this good? >> Another team who's been on here a ton. the Los Angeles Chargers. Now typically. they pay play a ton of zone coverage. I. believe still in the top of the National. Football League when it comes to zone. coverage. Derwin James this is Gardner. Minshew now and and at this point had to.

try Almost Pro Bowler. and get him done. Almost Pro Bowler almost got us to the. playoffs and got thrown obviously in the. end at the end of the game. Got want to. get in a position for a field goal and. tie this thing maybe get an OT or maybe. try to go down and win it. So, you got. to Travis Kelce matched up on Derwin. James. They've seen a ton of each other. year in and year out been in that. division. Just a great job of. maintaining his outside leverage from. the beginning. You'll see it better from. the other angle. Kelce tries to give him. a head fake to the inside, doesn't fall. for it, keeps his leverage, looks back, makes a play on the ball to end this.

game. So, big time play by a big time. player and they're playing very very. good defense. The only I guess weakness. on their team would be the offensive. line. Their defense is good enough to. win a championship I believe. And you. talk about Vance Joseph, Jessie Minter. will probably be in head coaching. conversations as well. And then it's. going to be okay how healthy can Herbert. be down the stretch and how upright can. that O line keep him, but the defense is. is are making plays big time week in and. week out. Incredible coverage here by. Derwin. >> Great coverage. Gardner Minshew we're. already in field goal range kind of with.

Butker. Now granted is he going to make. it or not make it this year has become a. question. He has a very strong leg. 20. seconds left down three. Have a chance. to be on the field and throw the ball to. Travis Kelce I'm going to do that. He. did it earlier in the drive too. I think. him and Kelce had a great connection. Gardner Minshew is not scared of. anything. Feels like this not. necessarily ever going to be a. completion because Derwin James is so. damn good, but remember Travis runs. Travis Kelce runs 43 sitting in there. They weren't going to let Travis get. another route. No. No, and this is man. coverage I believe they had a couple. like whole defenders in there. But man.

to man coverage outside leverage and. this is this is perfect. Like this is. how you draw it up. You do drills like. this. Hey, keep your outside leverage. If he runs the corner route, you make. him pay and he did. All right, let's go. to another good D with Darius J. Butler. This is the last one Kamari. Yeah, the. best defense in the league right now and. he is I mean probably a top five corner. now. We all talk about Stingley on the. other side who's you know, one or two in. that conversation. Bullock he's been the. best free safety this year. Petrie we. had him on maybe last week against the.

Chiefs when he had the big hits in the. interception. Kamari Laster second year. out of Houston I believe. Hard hitter. who show up in the run game. He'll. blitz. He'll tackle and he'll also. cover. Had an interception against the. Chief Chiefs last week and it's another. interception in high red zone. Post. route once again maintaining his. leverage and then making a great play on. the football and a phenomenal. celebration as well. All right. Y'all got Ooh. Pretty good. Spider-Man. Is that Spider-Man? Yeah, there was some. question marks about him a couple weeks.

ago. I think before the Chiefs game had. a toe injury that he had been kind of. battling. And remember the comments that. he made. I love hearing DeMeco Ryans. talk talk about him and his mindset. But. he was asked the question, hey who would. you send first off the bus from that. defense? And he was like, me. You know, I'm I'm with all I'm with all the. [ __ ] and he absolutely is down in. the down out. I mean that's an. incredible catch. If a wide receiver. makes this catch without being able to. see the ball with hands touching it, I. mean we would say that's an incredible. catch. And the casuals may not know who. that receiver is Michael Wilson, but. since He's unbelievable. He's.

unbelievable. His numbers, his targets. since Marvin Harrison Jr. has been out. he's kind of become a guy, but that's a. great job reading your keys, keeping. your leverage, and then making a great. play on the football. That was his. fourth interception on the year. >> Great backflip, too. Great backflip. Anytime But he stick it to him. I think. you're allowed to say that. I'm not. The. the the anytime you do a full pads and. be that clean with it, that means not. only is it been done thousands of times. in the past, but in the moment didn't. get too excited. Oh no. Perfect balance.

I mean it's like shooting a three. You. got to have the right amount of. explosion and turn. Just casual in the. moment all the way into the Spider-Man. me. I mean this is phenomenal. celebration. >> Absolutely. You can probably see it. better from the wide copy if you fast. forward to the end, but I also like the. awareness of him cuz once again dealing. with an injury, but peeking back real. quick. He spun it. Boom got to spin it. You can peek back. Make sure there's not. a cameraman, cheerleader. Boom stick. that thing. Great Great camera angle. I. mean that's perfect timing there. >> 10 out of 10. It's going to be some sick.

pictures somewhere online. Well, congrats to him. It seems like there's. going to be more of that coming out of. the Houston Texans defense. They are so. good. We're talking about them maybe. winning the Super Bowl cuz that defense. Best unit in the ball. Oh, really? Best in my opinion just if. you got that unit. best unit in football. With Devonte. Notten? If Devonte if Devonte's in, are. you taking Los Angeles Rams offense or. the Texans? I'll still I'll still go to. Texans defense. They own somebody in. their division still. Uh there's a very. big chance they have the tiebreaker with. the Jags. The Jags are at Denver and the.

Texans are hosting the the Raiders. So, maybe the Texans win. The Jags Broncos. will be a war, but they have the. tiebreaker and the the closing three for. the Texans relatively easy aside from at. Indy the last week, but there's a chance. they end up being the three seed maybe. even two seed. >> And if you get that, you get a home. playoff game obviously and everything. else that comes alongside of that. It. maybe even another home game, depending. upon what happens below them. And if. they're able to get that building Ooh, yeah. going with that defense going.

We've been there. Yes, we have. With CJ. going, I think we've seen that. It's. like nobody really wants them. And. that's what everybody has said. Luke. Kuechly said, "Nobody really is signing. up to take on the Houston Texans right. now because to to win games that involve. points, you have to be able to score. them." And the Houston Texans defense. >> [gasps]. >> poses uh poses quite a problem when it. comes to getting into end zone. They are. everywhere all the time. And you talk. about Lassiter as like the third guy. that you showcase on everything DB.

Every other guy that's been on there is. because they fit. Everybody hits. Everybody hits. All tough. Like all of. them are hitters. All of them want to. punish you. And it's like that's DeMeco. Ryans to a T. Like when Al. Shaheer Shaheer gets in that fight on. the sideline and then he gets suspended. DeMeco Ryans, head coach and defensive. guy, comes out and he's like, "We got to. watch what's going on on that sideline, too. Like our guys like you want to hit. us, we're going to hit you." Like he was. open with the fact like this is who we. are. That's a scary [ __ ] team to have. to play, especially in the playoffs, I.

think, AJ. Yeah, I think it's contagious, too. Like. when you have a physical team like that. and they all you you talk about running. to the ball. Like great things happen. when you run to the ball. Like they just. feel like they're playing with supreme. confidence, whoever is in there. I don't. know like you have to uphold the. standard, I feel like, and that DeMeco. and the rest of that team has set. Yeah, like we said, it's it may not be fun to. watch your team play the Texans, but if. you are a fan of defense and a fan of. physicality, this defense is who you. want to watch. >> Yeah, and they're finishing every hit, too. Like it's like. Yeah, we're Through the ground. They're.

finishing through the They're trying to. take you through the ground. Yeah, and. you know, yeah, when there's a. quarterback, obviously, we'll be trying. to catch ourselves, but C.J. Wilson will. be there. Yeah, we we will certainly be. there every single time. Like I don't. think people fully understand that's an. entire mindset. Like hey, this is who we. are as a team. And nobody's allowed out. of it. Like corners. Mhm. No, you are we. are This is. >> This is who we are. Like this is what. our defense is known for. When people. turn on to I bet you DeMeco. When people. turn on tape and they watch our defense, all 11 guys have to showcase exactly who. the [ __ ] we are. Like that is that is.

what it is. And you talk about a. standard they're already having, it's. like next year whenever somebody joins. that defense or if they sign somebody, it's understood like hey, this is what. we are. Oh, yeah. That's a great thing. to have. That is a [ __ ] great thing. to have on the defensive side in 2025, 2026. >> You talk about them getting a potential. home playoff game, too. Like Look at. Look at how we've been talking about. Josh Allen the last several weeks and. how he's unstoppable. Rewind a couple. weeks ago when Buffalo went to Houston, like and what they they sacked Josh. Allen nine times. We're we're seeing him.

laying on the turf, kicking his legs. down. Like they they beat the [ __ ] out. of them. And Not just them, everybody. They That's what they do. Right, but I'm. saying like we're talking about the best. player in the NFL who is unstoppable and. just said a few weeks ago we saw them. make him look very pedestrian. All I can. remember is that was his red jersey. Yeah. everywhere. And And then Jacksonville Jaguars. They're getting really really really. really really really good really. quickly. Mhm. All of a sudden the AFC. South starting to become the NFL's best.

Yeah, they they lose. If they lose this week, the Jags are in. legit trouble as far as winning the. division. Well, they they'll still get in as a. wild card. >> Yeah, the seven teams are basically. locked in. Uh it's just the the divisions. the the divisions are basically all a. toss-up. You could argue maybe not the. Broncos, but like the AFC East, AFC. North, and the AFC South are all toss-up. right now. And the Steelers can lose two straight. games, and then if they win the last. game, they still win the division. Yeah,

and that's the big thing with New. England. Like if New England wins then. they have this weekend against. Baltimore, that is massive for Pittsburgh and for. New England, obviously, cuz they get in. But that also gives them a little bit. more leeway to win the division this. week. Football's great, but there's some. people that are ass deep. Let's get to. the bad D, shall we? >> Oh, man, speaking of people and teams. and defensive units that are ass, they. got defensive coordinator fired after. this game. Steve Wilks. Liam Coen has done a great great job.

with Trevor Lawrence. I know. Dan said yesterday the Texans offense. probably the most improved unit in. football. This Jacksonville Jaguars has. been hitting all cylinders. You'll see. Etienne, he had three touchdowns. This. is one of them right here. They're going. to get to basically a four by one on the. snap. So right now he's starting off on. the left. Whole snap, he's going to get. to the route and just get the right and. then it'll just be a swing route. And. now AJ knows just how tough this is on. 56. We run it back. Just look at the. traffic that 56 has to run through. If.

you pause it here, he's a linebacker. just to the left if you're looking from. the offensive side of the hash. And. watch what 56 has to get through to get. through and try to cover Etienne who's. already a speedster. So he went. underneath. And you always have to make. a a decision as a defender, do I go over. the top or do I go go underneath? Do I. try to go to that back door? And usually. when you go to that back door, you get. outrun, especially with a speedster. It's great for that O line. He 77, he. just gets a hand on him then does a save. it block, just puts the ass on him, and.

then Etienne takes care of the rest. >> Jets get rid of Quinnen Williams and we. hear what the Dallas Cowboys think about. him. Do we think that is potentially the. devastation to the Jets defensive side. of the ball? >> it was bad with him, too. This is a team. I don't know what maybe one interception. on the entire year, I think, which is. None. What zero? Zero. Like that That's that's hard to do. That's hard to do through five games, let alone 15 at this point. This is like. this is like all-time bad. You didn't. expect this with a defensive I didn't. expect this with a defensive head coach.

Don't have a bunch of the pieces and. just got the [ __ ] kicked out of them. We. talked about Trevor Lawrence earlier in. the week having a historic day. This. offense has been good, but they looked. obviously great on Sunday against the. Jets D. Like right there you got to get. on the ground. Hey, big play, you got to. get on the ground. Hey, you got to pull. the rip cord. We just saw what I mean I mean, I'm not. saying that there's like a Mike Vrabel. option out there for the Jets, but like. as a defensive guy with how bad they've. been and just like everything, like. I don't know. Maybe Hey, maybe maybe you.

own up, say we we got this one wrong. We. need to go back to the drawing board and. we need to we need to make sure we get. it right. And then what, AJ's going back. to Detroit? Potentially. Yeah, maybe. just swap. >> Maybe. >> Shepard gets hired by the Jets. If they. don't do it this year, they they're. signing up for two years cuz they have. four first-round picks in the next two. years. So if they let them pick. the two first-round picks this year or, you know, who knows, trade up with the. GM? What do you want to get Darren Muji. Muji? I mean, yeah, I I I'm not there. I'm not there as far as pulling the cord. just because of we the things that we.

talked about. You were a [ __ ] you were a seller. You you sent all your best players away. You get all these picks. You know, make. that looks like to us, hey, you position. yourself, go get a quarterback, build. for the future. So you give them an. opportunity give them a couple years to. try to figure out what's going. >> I I think we like I like Aaron Glenn. Me, too. Love it. I like Aaron Glenn. I'm an Aaron Glenn fan. I like his. energy. I like his juice. I like what he. did with Detroit. I got a chance to talk. to him. I feel like he's a very real. human being. I mean, the Aaron Rodgers. fly over there and then him kicking him.

out of the. room in three minutes or whatever. Hilarious move. Interesting move. I don't know if that. happens in football a lot in its. entirety, but trying to set a tone, I. think, on what he's looking for. So for. it to be this ass, I think we were all. kind of surprised by. It's the Jets. It's been a [ __ ] show for. for a while now. It's been an offense as. a defender and I'm not making any excuse. for that defense. Zero interceptions is. crazy, but the I think Brady Cook. started that game on offense. >> Easy. He's lost more than he They had,

you know, Tyrod Taylor and and Justin. Fields. So they you know, it's been. tough on offense. Can't believe they let. go of Allen Lazard. He's out there. Maybe end up in Pittsburgh. But you. know, MVS. >> a tough It's been tough. It's been a. tough year. Feeling Mhm. Listen to the. Pittsburgh Steelers Avenger. Where's. John Kuhn at? Take the headset off, John. Come on. I. don't know if they got helmets in. modern-day helmets that can fit that. thing, but maybe just wear the Guardian. cap. Jordy still in good shape? Nah, Jordy's in great shape, but I don't. think he Randall Cobb though, he might. be a guy who's looking good.

>> call Jordy. Jordy's the one that needs. to run my dog. Cuz isn't he out there. with the Yeah, cattle and whatnot. Yeah, ranching. Oh, he's probably great shape. Great shape. >> Oh, yeah. He's tackling them, jumping on. them, jumping off them. Still. Softball. National champion. What Isn't he some. softball like champion? He's a freak athlete. I don't know where. what his titles are in softball, but he. can he can do everything. >> Yeah, I think he's a softball national. champion at this stage. He was at some. rodeo. We saw him doing some [ __ ] at. some rodeo. Yep. He was he was running.

the rodeo, I think. He was a boss. Wouldn't belt Oh, no, we don't need a. Jordy highlight tape. I might be on here. somewhere. Yeah, well, that's what. happens. MILK CHECK. MILK CHECK. I'LL. GONE. SEE YOU. SIX, Jordy Nelson. >> He's a monster. I do enjoy the. conversations that happen in DB rooms. about Jordy Nelson all around the. league. That was cool. That was cool to. kind of. learn about hear about just because of. how funny it is that that is the actual. truth of the situation. Hey, listen. He's country [ __ ] Okay, this guy is. super nice. You have no idea what you're.

looking at when you're standing there. You you view him, you think to yourself, We got we we got time here. We don't have time with this one. Well, you know, when you you get eyes on him, you. He's He's He's a stallion. >> Yeah, he looks like a a thoroughbred, for sure. You get eyes on Four If you get eyes on. him across the field, you you're not. you're not sleeping on 87. Hey, watch. the film. Okay, then when we see him in. real life, it's He'll strive to get. >> Understand what this thing is. >> Oh, yeah. Weapon. Why doesn't he go to. the Steelers?

Why not? What's Randall doing right now? Cobb Getting ready. >> [laughter]. >> Feeling MVS, Jordy, Randall, Lazard, Tom. Crabtree. Maybe he comes back out. >> Donald Driver. Yeah. Yep. And Bills in. the first round. Donald Driver would be awesome. That. would be awesome, but. >> still play. >> He He's a Packer for life. I don't I'm. saying with Jordy, we don't need to see. all those guys. Jordy played for the. Raiders. >> are the Packers of the AFC. I know. I.

know, but I think Donald Driver's also. like 55. I don't want him to get hurt. out there. That's a little bit older. Look at Philip Rivers. 44's the 44's the. ceiling. No, it's the floor. >> That's what I meant. [ __ ] Who's the. white Who's the white wide receiver used. to catch all the Hail Marys? Jared. Abbrederis? There it is. Get him out. Jeff Janis? >> Jeff Janis. That's it. Janis. They are. literally the same guy with different. names. The 83? He got He got the. Cardinals. That's right. Twice. Yeah. Twice, same game. Yeah. Remember having. read after that? Uh Hail Mary? Yeah, Rodgers threw like a.

60-yard touchdown to send it into. overtime as time expired and then on. like the first play of overtime Larry. Fitzgerald caught a slant and ran like. 85 yards. Look at that like the 5-yard. [clears throat] line. The Packers lost. like a play later. Damn. On Pat P. That's Oh yeah. That's. quite a deal. Yeah, it was quite a deflating deal. How many He has the most Hail Marys, right? Aaron, that's the that's like. definitely his. I would assume so. >> Yeah, the the Jets one, I think. uh last year that happened in prime time. with Lazard. Five or six Like broke the. record. Yeah, yeah. I forget what the.

number is. And like free play touchdown. Mhm. Yeah, like that up. Which you're. trying to take away from his game. I'm. not. You Shaq of wine. >> Bruce Arians No, when he when he gets to. the hard count free like those, but the. you know, the pinky toe in the in the. sideline. Get off the field. Yeah, hustle. What was Bruce's take? He's anti. it? Yeah. Yeah. He was anti it as a. player. So like some some coaches teach. it. Like if as a center if you see them. like jump across snap it. And Bruce was never It was always tell. the guard. >> He's talking about somebody running off. the field though. Oh, oh got it. Got it.

Got it. He's talking about this from the. other night. There was 45 second. uh advanced replay replay assistant that. actually there was 12 guys on the field. they didn't give me the flag, which. Aaron was talking about. And then BA and. D-Butt the next morning. Well, BA first. >> Still no flag. We knew D-Butt was not. about it. Yeah, in real time there's. still no flag. Aaron's not happy. That. [ __ ] didn't get off the field as he. clearly says in the entirety. Advanced. replay says, "Yep, he's actually right. There's 12 on the field." Because Troy. and Joe thought maybe it was like a hold. or something on MVS he didn't like and.

then this and then they replay it. So. yeah, it was uh We thought BA would be. about it though cuz it was an offensive. gift and a quarterback has to be smart. enough to see this. And also it's a deep. shot, no risk it no biscuit type thing. It's actually a biscuit potential with. no risk it in it. And instead he was. like, "It's not the intent of the rule.". He says not the intent of the rule. Way. offside. I mean, that's the other thing, too, Brady. Huge in in doing this. That's why I was surprised that was his. philosophy, too. Yeah. What's that? We knew D-Butt would hate.

it. I I We knew AJ would hate it. >> Exactly. That was the first time I. looked at Bruce and I was like, "What. the [ __ ] are you talking about, Bruce? This is This is your time.". >> he's been here a long time. That's good. That's good. Exactly. And that was the. first time I looked at him like, "Bruce, hello?" Hello, you're an offensive guy. What's up? Bruce, you benefited from. this probably. Come on, man. Let's ask. Ben Roethlisberger what his thoughts. were. Mhm. You know. And his thoughts on. that photo. Let's go to Hammer. What do you think Big Ben's thoughts are. on too many men being smarter than.

defense? And what do you think Big Ben. was looking at with Dan Marino when he. had that look and Dan had that look? Uh. seven loves catching 12 men on the field. and then just hucking it deep to, you. know, one of any number of wide. receivers. So he's he's definitely for. it. Uh but he was also coached by BA, so. you know, that's weird as well. I don't. I'm with you, Connor. I don't know what. BA was doing there. Um and I still think that Ben was just. in awe of how Aaron is spinning it. There's a chance. Dan Marino knew it was. over. Literally. Maybe that's what he saw. Dan.

Marino saw Aaron throw it and he thought. to himself, "The Tua era is over. Well, that's it." Maybe he saw Tua yucking it. up before the game with Jalen Ramsey. Huh, IF BEN GOES. GOD DOESN'T CARE ABOUT HIS TEAM. And Dan. goes, "This is [ __ ] disgusting." I'm. [ __ ] benching him after again. After again. >> [laughter]. >> Sound like Stanford Steve, but. Pittsburgh accent certainly similar to. Baltimore one, whichever one Stanford. Steve has. We appreciate you Tone. Why.

don't you. start heading this way, Tone? Why don't. you start heading this way? Uh D-Butt, final bad D. What? >> Yeah, we haven't seen the Packers all. year. Yeah, I don't think all year long. And this is a seed from Bo Nix talking. about some quarterbacks playing their. best ball at this point in the season. Bo Nix is definitely in that. conversation. This is a big week, too, for the Broncos. They've been winning a. lot of close games, but winning. nonetheless. And a lot of people are. like, "All right, Packers, Broncos, this. will be a big test for both teams, both. quarterbacks." And uh he passed the test. with flying colors. This is him with his. college teammate, Troy Franklin. Uh this.

is like a scissors route. So a corner. from the number two receiver and then. he'll end up running like a post and. he'll sit right in this window. Kind of. a cover two type drop. And he throws it. Dan kind of talked about throwing the. ball across the middle. It's about kind. of where you place the ball, the pace. you put on the ball. And he puts this. kind of back shoulder high, away from. the defenders. Great ball placement, great accuracy, stepping up in the. pocket, big time throw and catch. That's. just uh hitting a hole in the zone, right? Yep. I mean, that is exactly. that's a Exactly. >> Called a hole shot, I believe, and.

that's how you beat zone. And was Bo. always able to do this in the NFL, do we. know? Well, Sean Payton loved him, you. know, when he came when he came on he. talked he spoke very very glowingly. about him. It was some questions for a. lot of other people, could Bo develop. and be a big time quarterback? But. making plays like this on this level. against this defense cuz this ain't, you. know, this ain't a bunch of slappies out. there. These are some good defenders. Obviously Micah is got hurt this game, but big time throw against a very good. defense. You got to find a hole in the. zone and make the throw. We liked Bo on.

the show, right? He sounded like Kevin. O'Connell. Yeah. Yeah, that was my. takeaway if I remember right. He He. everything was right. He's super. competitive, loved the quarterback. position, everything like that. >> QB1. >> And that's why Sean Payton as soon as he. met him was like, "This is the guy.". >> And I like quarterbacks that when the. moments get bigger like they show up the. best. And that's who he's been all year, whether it was a team you were supposed. to blow out or a team you were supposed. to lose to. Fourth quarter comes, Tannehill's playing his best ball. So I. I love that from a quarterback, young or. old. He's, you know, kind of a young old. guy almost in the NFL. Second year.

starting, but he's a older fella and. he's playing his best ball. Shaq. It talks about how old he was. Look out. Saints care. Hey, Saints care right now? Look out for Shaq. Danno was right. I. mean, he was on good D. Threw that pick to uh So Douglas. And. we're like, "Damn, things you two picks. had a pick pick two to Minka." And Dan. think tweeted that day like, "Hey, I. love his film. He's confident. He's. this. He's that." And I, you know, I. think he's ran off a couple wins since. Well, and the Saints celebrated when. they drafted him in the third round as. if he was going to be their starter.

Mhm. Remember that? And everybody was. like, "Well, if you're drafting a. starter in the third round, why don't. you draft him in the first round?" What. are you talking about? "We like our. pick.". Mhm. That [ __ ] Is he still down. there? Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Shaq was fantastic today. Aggressive, moved really well, confident size, saw. the field clean. That's what I'm talking about. Mhm. I. mean, Danno's been on it. The Dan wagon. will hop on some things that are good. >> Yep. Leave it at that. It's holiday season. Great work today, boys. Thank you, D-Butt. Great week.

>> Thank you, brother. You, too. Thank you. Great work today. >> You, too, brother. Be a friend, tell a. friend something nice, it might change. their life. Uh AQ, anything for the. team? Yeah, big week of football ahead. Thursday, head up to the Pacific. Northwest. Playoff games Friday. NFL and playoff games start. Enjoy this. time of year, everyone. Hell yeah, AQ. Hell yeah. Well done. Thank you, AQ. Team on me. Team on. three. One, two, three. Deuce. Goodbye.