The Pat McAfee Show Live | Wednesday August 26th 2026

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Hello beautiful people and welcome to. our humble the boat the draft kings. thunderdown on this college football eve. Wednesday August 26 2026 this sports. program begins now. >> football is the greatest and we have FCS. football tomorrow there's six ranked FCS. teams playing football tomorrow night. starting at 600 p.m. on ESPN Plus.

Youngstein State's one of them. And then. North Dakota kicks off late night. So, we got an entire evening of super duper. real FCS football tomorrow night. Then. obviously this weekend, college football. week zero starts. And then next week, week one begins as college game day will. be down in Baton Rouge, Louisiana, as. LSU starts its lane keen era with that. boy Sweeney in Clemson coming into town. unranked for the first time in his. entire coaching tenure seemingly. So, the the kitchen is hot around Baton. Rouge, obviously, and the LSU Tigers.

Who's going to be able to play, who's. not going to be able to play, who's. voting for LSU whenever they're deciding. on new rules of the SEC conference, because last night it came out just like. what happened in the Big 10. The SEC. announces that basically a rule was. being instated to their particular. conference that if you if you're in the. NFL, you can't play. >> Mhm. >> Okay. The vote was 16. >> Okay. So, that would mean every single. member of the SEC voted yes to this. rule. That would include Alabama.

>> Sure. >> Old Miss, >> uh, Texas, Georgia, Vandy, >> Kentucky, Arkansas, >> Mississippi State, >> lay. Missouri, Oklahoma, >> and then who? LSU. >> Oh, >> LSU voted yes to pass this rule. Who's. in the room saying yay or nay? Is that. the president, Dr. Wait, Roose, we're. learning about and is he saying, "Yeah, I don't like this." And they're like, "It's you." All right.

>> Got to talk to me. >> I'll go have a conversation with me. about it then. So, it feels like that. this uh conver conversation we had with. Lane yesterday where Lane's like, "Which. injunction are we going to go with? Which injunctions are we not going to go. with?" Feels like we're setting. precedent on picking and choosing which. people are eligible, which people are. not eligible. And I actually was. listening to Lane. I'm like, "Okay." I. mean, if that's the angle you're going. to go with, I could see how you're. saying that. He also mentioned that. other schools were also going to benefit. from this. Not just LSU, even though. this injunction was in Baton Rouge, Louisiana. So, we will find out if.

that's the case or not whenever this is. all said and done, if any other schools. other other than LSU attempt to put, you. know, pen to paper for any of these guys. that potentially cut out of NFL training. camps who've got the five for fiveyear. injunction in Louisiana. If that. happens, I think it is a different. conversation. But if it is just LSU. benefiting from this, I think it's going. to continue to grow louder. But. yesterday, what Lane told us was he. inferred, you know, that there was other. teams that are going to do this. Once. again, we will find that out. Old Miss. Walker Jones, who's the head of their uh. NIL collective, he put a tweet out that. said fake news that that is this is not.

real. We did we now he is in charge of. the money at Old Miss. Now, is there a. chance that Lane Keifin whenever he was. uh negotiating for DQ? Was he told maybe. by representative of DQ that maybe hey. Miss you know miss is is potentially or. this you know is Drew Rosenhouse a. seasoned vet whenever it comes to. potentially negotiating Lane Kein's mind. potentially told Miss comes out though.

and says fake this Walker Jones I. believe he is somebody who knows he was. also a part of the uh the bugging FBI. search of Old Miss. I believe Lane. actually and he obviously worked. together at Old Miss for a long time. I. think they know each other very well, but obviously this is the situation we. are currently sitting in. So if no other. players are going anywhere else, I think. that's a big part of the story. But if. there's dozens of these guys allegedly. that are available for this particular. five for five injunction that the. Louisiana judge put in, if it's just. LSU, I think it's going to be I don't.

think it happens. >> No, >> I think if it's multiple schools that. end up benefiting from this, I think it. happens. But if you listen to what these. conferences are saying, just like in the. Sorsby situation, which happened uh just. a couple months ago, the conference was. basically like, "Hey, we. >> we will do something. If the judge won't. do something and the NCAA can't do. anything and your school feels like they. can't do anything or don't want to do. anything, we will do something then.". And I don't know if that is what. everybody uh has been looking for or. not, but conferences seemingly having a.

little bit of power over their own. conferences as opposed to worrying about. the NCAA who's going to get sued to. oblivion would certainly be a more. effective strategy, I think, as we go. through the next couple uh what the. hell's going on era. Now, that would. have to take though 160 for the SC. That. would have to take everybody buying into. the same agenda. And if everybody's able. to do that, maybe we do have an answer. Maybe this Big 10's saying, "Hey, if. anybody does that here, we're going to. suspend coaches. You guys are in deep. [ __ ] We'll see how the courts go. We. We're willing. We're willing to see how. it goes." And then the SEC says, "Yeah,

you know what? We'll do the same thing. You want to sue us? Sweet. We'll figure. out where this court's going to be. We'll figure out what the court's going. to be. We'll actually do that if the. conferences actually uh get a little bit. of power here and get a little uh. governance seemingly of their. conferences." Maybe that is the way this. is saved. And maybe this is what the. future could potentially look like as. we're in the middle of a no guardrail. chaos situation. But on that note, we're. how many days away from kickoff down. there? >> Uh, eight. >> Yeah. >> No, 10. >> So much has to happen before then.

>> Oh my god. >> I mean, there's so many things that are. going to happen and it is going to be a. buzzsaw down in Baton Rouge. I mean, it. is going to be an absolute buzzsaw down. there. College football kicking off. tomorrow night for FCS. Obviously, the. NFL has their final preseason week and. then there's rosters that are going to. be pieced together and there's going to. be journeys and stories told over the. next few days. Inevitably, once the. games start, nothing else matters. >> Nope. >> Mhm. >> You got the Steelers taking on the. Bills. Bills favored by three. What's. going on with the Pittsburgh Steelers? >> Good question. >> Who who who's what over there? You know,

who's playing? Who's not playing? >> Does Mike McCarthy even know Joe Porter. Jr's name? Since he's been a coach, I. don't think the guy's been on the field. When's he going to get paid? That guy's. really good at the football. They got a. lot of drama. Then Patriots, Browns, please don't even got to talk about. what's going on Cleveland. Don't even. got to talk about what has been going on. New England. >> during football time. >> Right. Right. >> Cool. >> Lot of highlights coming out in New. England. >> Yeah. Oh yeah. >> Lot of highlights coming out in New. England. Getting even better. San. Francisco 49ers, Raiders. Hello. Rams,

Chargers. Here we go. That's also. tomorrow night. So football is inching. closer. Baseball's been delivering for. us. And oh yeah, guess who's back? Back. again. Skino is back. >> Okay, >> tell a friend. >> Throwing gas. Throwing gas in San Diego. Struck a bunch of people out. Hit 99 or. 98.6 for the first time. Long time. Felt. like his confidence is at an all-time. high. And Slam Diego is a good team. So, it feels like Paul Scaines, whatever he. had going on, we either he fixed it, he.

healed it, or popped out of it. Whatever. the case, we did send a video of. congratulations. We would let uh the. sports world know seemingly back and. this is good for all parties including. baseball and we would like to let him. know congrats man. I know. >> has not been fun. It's been since the. Allstar game that feels like forever ago. now he's been getting questioned and. asked about his thing and he getting ex. pitchers telling him what he's doing. wrong. He needs to do this. Hey, you. need to go visit this. He's shirtless. next to his girlfriend on a beach. This. guy's a fatso. This guy I mean he's been.

getting absolutely slaughtered. And it. seems like last night we got a chance to. see something that we've always known. was in there which is Paul SK baseball. Shout to the Pirates keep pushing him. until we get to this because a lot of. people were saying need to sit him. Sit. him. Sit him. That off season would have. been potentially terrible if he doesn't. Sports are delivering. We're lucky to. talk about him. The toxic table's here. at Boston Connor and at Ty Schmidt. One. of the hammer Cowboys AP Tone is here. Hey, DraftKings ran a DK game day. commercial. That was very ominous. I saw. that. Yeah. What was that? >> That's a good question. We should. probably ask him. Okay.

That's probably the right move. >> That's right. Cuz how ominous it was. There was just kind of a car driving. Yeah. Go ahead and run this thing a. little bit. This is from our friends at. DraftKings. >> It's nice car. >> Old school. >> Good music. >> America. Go paint job. >> What car is that? >> I think. the strap. >> I like the song. I. >> mean, it's kind of like a moment. >> What do the signs say? >> Must be a sign.

Okay. And then. >> Oh, >> Traffic King's game day. September 2nd. >> September 2nd. >> Okay. >> September 2nd's a big one, too. >> I think Jonas, Nick, and uh Kevin Hart. are going on a road trip. All 50 states. Seriously. >> Wow. >> Yeah. They announced that yesterday on. Kevin Hart's. >> Was that whose voice? >> Yeah, I think that was Yeah. Here we go. I think you know what he was saying. because he's a sign. >> Yeah. I think DK game day is coming. September 2nd, 2026. >> DraftKings game day. That's cool.

>> Do we all get those cars? Do I get them? >> That'd be cool. Classic. >> That would be cool to get one of those. cars. We're not betting on these FCS. games. We're not betting on these. preseason games tomorrow night. Uh what. what are we how are we kind of viewing. these things? >> I mean, if if you think I'm not laying. some money on the Youngsttown Penguins. tomorrow night. Sorry, Youngstown State. Penguins tomorrow night. Basically, you. know, what is that? 45 minutes out of uh. Pittsburgh. Basically hometown. >> No. No. We're not claiming close to. Pennsylvania and Ohio right now for the. next week or so. >> No, we're not claiming Palestine. No, but Youngtown.

>> East Palestine. >> Yeah. No, not that. There's two. There's. a couple Palestine. >> Oh, Palestine. >> No, just like. the Middle East. >> No, New Mexico, Old Mexico, East. Palestine's in Ohio. >> Okay. >> There is a Palestinian. I had to explain. >> Mark Ruffalo. You look different, too. I. saw you. >> What does that mean? >> I saw you earlier on the internet. You. look different. >> What are you talking about? Let's go to. one half of the hammer. Cowboys AP.

tone. >> Mhm. >> Boom. >> There he is. >> There we go. >> No, that's me. >> That's Mitch. Shout out. I believe his. name is Mitch. >> I couldn't get through the entirety of. the video, but I did see this, and I. want to thank him for how accurately he. portrayed our entire operation. In tone, I think this is the best you've looked. out of people that have tried to dress. up like us and make us look like. [ __ ]. >> I agree. And I think it's the best I've. looked ever, even including me. >> Okay, sweet. So, maybe we just kind of. do that with the new modern technology. Shave your beard. nine-year NFL veterary. Jay Butler here. Deb, what's up, >> man? Baby, >> FCS games tomorrow starting at six.

o'clock ESPN plus. I know you're dialed. in. Youngtown State Penguins are are. kind of primed to go on a run this year. You've been talking about. >> No, I've been talking more so about the. North Dakota boys. Yeah, >> yeah, they always bring it. Southern. Illinois. Salute's up, baby. >> UT Martin. >> Yeah, >> man. What a slate. >> That's tomorrow night. >> We're here. >> Yeah, we are pumped. One more sleep. It. it feels like you're just now seeing. what the schedule. >> No for like an hour before. >> Yeah. You said Chattanooga West Georgia. is kind of the matchup. You see one of.

those two teams going for the rest of. the year. That's that's not part of the. rank. >> And then the University of McCarthy's. playing, you remember? >> I didn't know that. >> Yeah, they're pretty good team. They're. a pretty good little team. >> Coach Mike. >> Yeah, you were talking about. >> Yeah, they're playing. They got a lot of. decisions to make over there before they. kick off tomorrow night. That's all on. ESPN Plus. We can't wait to get in. there. Uh, as many of coaches have said, uh, if we're looking for games to. schedule, if it has a Dakota in it, I. don't want it. And, uh, those North. Dakota boys, to your point, they're. gonna be playing hard. >> Oh, yeah. >> FCS guys, they don't wash their pads.

like Debbone had to at D3, but those. guys have an opportunity to not only win. for their school, win for their team, win for everything. Got a chance to. maybe go up, you know, at big-time. payday, you have an incredible season. uh, at any of these schools. So, we. might be seeing some real lifechanging. [ __ ] on a football field start tomorrow. night. And remember, for those that. didn't weren't watching last week when. we talked about it, North Dakota State, one of those North Dakota schools, has. moved up to D1. So, they will not be. playing tomorrow night. They'll be. playing in the Mountain West. vying for a chance to make the playoffs. >> via Pack 12, I believe. Also, I mean,

college football is upside down. >> That's who I thought. >> No, now listen, the North Dakota. Fighting Sue are still a very good very. similar color scheme as well. They're. tough. They're tough. >> The Sue I I like the Sue. the the tri. the Navajo had a big week though in. football. They did. They did. >> down there with uh she has a Pete, right? She has a Pete down there. Uh. Mitt is Cherokee uh tribe. So obviously. what's that?

>> Yeah. It helped him get into college, remember? >> No, his dad actually What are we talking. about? His dad was our coach actually. And what are we talking about? >> Oh, so it did come from a different. source than just Mitt. >> Yes, very much so. Okay. I love that you. guys think everybody's lying. >> Didn't know based on what happened. yesterday. Hard not to. Still feeling. that the effects of that one pretty. hard. >> We will get to the bottom of that. Somebody did take a dump and did not. wipe. Joining us now is a man who would. never do that. Okay. This guy actually. might be in the running for greatest. parenting job of all time. I honestly.

don't know how you're able to accomplish. what he has been able to accomplish as a. father, as a husband, as a athlete, and. then also as a professional television. personality all at the same time. He. seemingly managed to remain humble uh. while also having an incredible amount. of moxy. And I he has to be stern as. [ __ ] with those kids. I I don't know how. you get a number one player in the. country in basketball. Uh what a a. volleyball scholarship to Texas probably. top 10 and then a younger that's going. to do it again. He and his wife.

obviously kicking a lot of ass. Cannot. wait to join him on the road this year. Ladies and gentlemen, from Monday Night. Countdown and back-to-back Emmy. awardwinning NFL Live, Swagu Marcus. Speed. What's up, >> my guys? What's up, >> dude? Congratulations on everything. Every time we watch a highlight of your. kid, it's just like, holy hell, the. amount of time obviously that has had. into Yeah. >> Yeah. And I like how supportive you. obviously have been. And I love gets a. chance to learn, but he's got it, huh? This dude is This dude's got it. When.

did you know with the lad? When did you. know with the boy? >> Uh, probably 14. 14 hit that growth. spurt after eighth grade. and uh he was. a long lanky giraffe and it started. coming together and now it's now it's. scary. >> Yeah, he's uh really good. I can't wait. for him to win about seven gold medals. for America. We appreciate Tell him we. all appreciate that uh for the next. >> dream team type stuff. And then your. daughter's at the University of Texas. and I heard we read on the internet that.

there's an a youngest who also in. volleyball as well. Congrats to you and. your family. Congratulations, man. Pat, Pat, it's all about the woman, man. It's. all about the woman. I'm trying to, you. know, I'm disseminating the message. throughout the the diaspora. You better. marry right. >> To the diaspora. >> If you marry wrong, if you marry wrong, [ __ ] can go real left. >> Okay. >> But if you marry right, some really good. things can happen for you. >> Things can go way right. You're saying, "Yeah, it sounds like it." Yeah. And of. course,

>> I'm telling you, >> of course, having a couple professional. athletes, you know, uh, as parents is. good start. That's good news. And uh. >> Well, I'm going to be real. I'm going to. be real with you, Pat. She had to be. fine and pretty, too. When I met her. more than It's more than just being able. to hoop. Like, you got to look good for. You know, my wife is My wife is I like. her a lot. So, >> Damn. Well, that's good. I assume she. likes you a lot, too, cuz seemingly. everybody that's ever met you does. Let's talk about this upcoming season. Very honored to be joining you on Monday.

Night Countdown. Can't wait for that. It. feels like this year. >> that's going to be fun, man. >> Hell yeah. I can't wait. I'm very very. excited to hit the road and see what the. Monday Night Football atmospheres are. like. Obviously, I've been to a couple. Monday Night Football games, but getting. a chance to get to experience Monday. Night Football is such an honor. I. cannot wait to do that alongside you. Feels like the story lines in the NFL. are obviously in abundance right now. because of training camp for you. What. is your favorite thing cooking around. these story lines? Is it Aaron Donald. coming back alongside Miles Garrett and. what the Los Angeles Rams could. potentially be? Uh, >> go ahead. >> I mean, that would be total pandemonium, bro. like I'm it like I want it to.

happen, but I'm so invested in thinking. Dallas is good enough to actually make a. run for the Super Bowl that I don't want. it to happen based on my fandom. But to. see Aaron Donald and Miles Garrett play. together would be a first of his kind in. the history of this league. When you. start talking about two dudes that could. arguably end up as two top 10 defensive. linemen, I think Aaron Donald still in. his prime, too. I know AD act like he. old and [ __ ] and he, you know, but at. the end of the day, he is still going to. be a monster if he decides to come back.

And when he left, you know, it was. almost like I remember talking about it. like it was Barry Sanders leaving. Like, you know, it's still there. You know. that if he comes back, he can continue. to do the same things that he was doing. That's excite exciting storyline. But. Pat, a little bit boring. I just love. how quiet it's been in Dallas this off. seasonason. It's been my favorite part. of the entire off seasonason cuz it it. just seems like a lot of maturity has. hit the building. Um the deals that that.

were made obviously with Quinnon and. bringing in Vaughn and Rashan Gary who I. think is going to be like a little. that's going to be that could be a. silent big time season coming from. Rashan. They all work out here in. Dallas. That's what a lot of people. don't know. Uh big dog BT Turner trains. these guys in Dallas and the guy Moells. that trains my daughter and my son, they. all in the same facility. So a lot of. these D linemen, they spend a lot of. time in Dallas. So for Van, for Quinnon, obviously for Rashan, they have.

everything in place here. I'm talking. about trainers, nutritionists, uh. everybody that works on their body. So. and and two, like a different change of. scenery for these guys. Bun is used to. Dallas, but I think this is going to be. a really good team this year, and I like. how quiet it's been. The George Pickings. thing in our history of watching. football with the Dallas Cowboys, it. tends to get loud, and it tends to carry. the entire off season if something like. this is going on. George quietly said, "Look, I'm going to play under the. franchise." Dallas said, "We going to.

franchise tag and we're not going to. extend." And from everything that I've. been hearing, he been balling out in. camp. So he motivated because he know. payday is around the corner, but just a. lot of like business being handled and. not a lot of drama. >> Yeah, I think that's a a good read on. what's happening down there from our. perspective as well because we got a. chance to catch up with Shotty and. obviously Shotti's been around football. what since he's like 10 years old. Like. actually I think there they have NFL. films has him as like a 10-year-old. around the NFL. So it's he understands. what it is, he understand what it isn't.

And I think the George Pickkins thing. was about to cook on draft day. that was. about to become a massive storyline. I. think all of us on TV were like, "Okay, here we go. A number one wide wide. receiver certified who has some uh I. don't want to say antics in the past, but like uh some drama in the past. I. believe baggage would be something that. would be considered." And it's the. Dallas Cowboys and we're in a time where. everybody's getting paid the most amount. of money in history. So this and he has. got Mooletta as his as his agent. So, whenever you start piecing that all. together, it's hard not to be like,

"Well, >> this is going to be an absolute nuke. down there." Instead, >> we get the messaging. I assume you guys. did as well. Mullella is like, "Uh, some. guys just want to play on the franchise. tag." He's one of those guys. He's. completely cool with it. And now we're. watching him miked up at training camp. The videos are like, "He's completely. happy. He's enjoying himself. He's. balling." CD is doing the same. And the. boys are running extra sprints because. they wanted to do it, says Shotty, in. front of the Rams. It's like, is this. the Dallas Cowboys swag? Do I? It. doesn't make much sense. It It doesn't. make much sense, D, but it is very.

different than what it has been. >> I know. It's been quite a man and. obviously the players, but Christian. Parker, man, like I'm I'm excited to see. him get this opportunity been the. youngest DC ever for their uh he's. obviously coming over with the hype from. Philly. He's been under great coaches. the whole time. Then to have these. players, you know, coaches, I feel like. they're only going to be as good as the. players out there. And you mentioned. Rashan Gary. I think that move kind of. has slid under the radar. was a a top. flight uh guy coming into the league and. he's been productive since coming into. the league. So, I'm excited to see him. out there, too. >> So, did Jerry Jerry just didn't love the.

way Mako was a Dallas Cowboy? >> Didn't like Mo. >> Is that Is that what we think? You think. that's what we think now at this point? I think so. Right. >> For sure. It was more it was more than. football. I mean, [ __ ] you look at the. football play, you don't trade a guy. like that in his prime, but obviously it. was some it was some not getting along. in the building or not thinking that he. would be the future in the direction. that the team wanted to go. And I got to. give Jerry credit cuz I'm on Jerry ass. all the time about things that he do. But I definitely got to give him credit. give him credit for the aftermath of. trading Michael Parsons. He's turned.

this into a really good pickup. a really. a lot of things he's done and this in. this front office um has done to look. you don't replace Micah because we know. him as an individual but by committee. when you look at this group and some of. the benefit that you were able to have. by getting rid of well trading away. Micah it's it's turned into pretty good. now they got to go ball like we going to. tear their ass up if they don't if they. don't hoop this season but based on. paper and what they've done you could.

see this team kind of maturing like like. look at the names, right? We talking. about a lot of mature football players, dudes that have played a lot of really. good football mixed in with some young. guys. Um you look at you look at PJ. obviously, you know, we don't how how is. uh injuries and stuff going Dwinners. Um. I I can't wait to see Dear Overshon this. year coming off injury. If you hear the. camp reports about him, uh, it could be. serious top five linebacker situation. with him and how he's, um, come back.

>> Well, what's everybody's saying? Everybody's saying, "Yeah, but that's. always Dallas Cowboys. Everybody's top. five at every position every single. year." It does feel different this year, let alone the Caleb Down stuff. Caleb's. like a tenure vet allegedly as soon as. he got to the campus at Alabama, let. alone transferring to a Matt Patricia. defense at Ohio State and having the. success that he had. They've been saying. gold jacket guy since he's like 16 years. old and now he's now he's on the Dallas. Cowboys and the most mature defense that. they've had while having. >> Well, our guy Pat our guy Sabin said he.

was the smartest player he's ever. coached. >> Yeah, >> you know that I played for Sabin so it's. I'm a little pissed off about that cuz I. was super smart playing. But but no man, you've you've heard you've heard that. about Caleb for a long time. >> Pat, let me ask Darius a question. because it's one concern I have. >> Okay, >> quarterbacks. What we got? Oh, I mean. >> I want to. >> That's the That's the big question. >> That's the big question. But, you know, >> oh, YOU GUYS ARE GOING TO GET BOMBED ON. DOWN THERE. >> WHO HELPS the That is That is the. question. But Christian Parker, I would.

assume he's going to kind of bring in. that quarters type of situation. Vic. Fangio defense, you going to keep the. shell back there and then Fangio always. had some dogs up front. You've seen they. they put the money up front getting. after the quarterback, making them. uncomfortable. And then you have an. offense. You were a part of this with. the Colts when you with with Payton. You. get that offense, you get up a couple. scores and then you let them pin their. ears back. But yeah, you don't want they. don't have the personnel to have the. corners in my opinion just be out on the. island, lock guys up. And I think Caleb. DS too, he's going to help a lot. Not.

only in that pass defense, the run. defense as well being able to be that. tweener. So uh I'm excited. Now we are. we are doing the [ __ ] the Dallas Cowboys. [ __ ] every year, you know, hey, look at. this, look at that. >> It does feel different. So, hey, let me. put put Pat up there cuz D, right? Foxy. Listen, >> but but I got to let everybody know. >> Mhm. >> This is not me every off season. >> See, so you're saying that you kind of. get lumped in with everybody else that. does it because you. >> I get I get more I get grilled more here.

in Dallas for being quote unquote. negative. >> about [ __ ] that I don't like that's. going on. I'm telling you this off. seasonason now. Look, the reality is. this don't equate the wins or anything, but what it does is it feels like it put. the focus all on football this this off. season. >> and and getting ready to play a season. where you think you got a chance to win. They got the talent though. The talent. is there. Now they got to go put it. together. >> Did Jerry get to that honey hole he was. trying to get to? What was that? Three.

miles underground. That's right. >> There's $3 trillion right underneath our. boots right here. I just need to get to. it. You think I give a damn about the. Cowboys defense right now? I'm trying to. get a rig three miles into earth. There's a honey. He said that. That is a. direct quote from Jerry Jones last year. as the team was going through whatever. it was going through after he traded. away Micah before the season. And his. entire quote about the trades, a couple. of them there uh about Micah was uh they. got what they got. Uh they got Micah, we.

got what we got and we tied. Okay. And. then he said uh he said I'd rather uh. you know one player is good, one. player's good, four players better. And. he did. The guy got the guy got like. >> maybe that maybe that's why it's been. quiet, Pat. He been trying to he trying. to hit that honey hole. >> I'm telling you. I think he is just. >> Yeah. >> I mean, I almost try to figure it out. and I got zero experience. There's how. MUCH MONEY? THREE MILES. I COULD GET A. SHOVEL RIGHT THERE. >> I'M TALKING ABOUT come out the ground. But I'm in Texas. Y'all know I I see. that liquid gold everywhere you go. They. got a pump going. >> So what do we do? We just take a shovel.

TO LIKE HOW DO WE GET INVOLVED? >> Don't take a shovel, >> Pat. How you get involved is you send me. one of them damn backpacks you give all. your guys and I'm going to go find us a. I'm going to go find us a hit and then. we'll get it popping. >> Deal. Just open the Y'all just look in. the mailbox. They call it mailbox Monday. down here. >> Yeah, believe me. I know. I was down. there in Texas Tech. I I didn't want to. pivot to college just yet because. obviously you're going to have to uh. speak for an entire institution here in. a second. But when we went down to Texas. Tech and I was just kind of looking.

around at everything and I just see. these these things just, you know, out. in the skyline and I'm like, >> "So that's where everybody's living.". They're like, "Yeah, this is actual God. God blessed us right underneath our feet. here right underneath you. >> God God actually blessed this land for. us to. >> be able to have one of the best rosters. in all college football." And uh. >> I'm talking about a oil roster. >> Yeah. >> That's what you call Texas Tech. >> Yeah. And they. >> That's a liquid gold roster. >> Yeah. And they're still maybe moving. somebody in right now. Now they're not. doing. >> Didn't y'all didn't y'all just have a.

kid one of the top O lineman commit. attack Austin Otala. Yeah. 68 270. Yeah. He he's uh and he he puts people through. the ground too. Cody Campbell who is one. of the double eagle partners uh down. there at Texas Tech that is obviously a. massive part of the NIL. He was an. offensive lineman in the NFL. So like. you look at their trenches like what. David Bailey is doing right now at the. Jets. >> He's investing heavily in trenches. like. that is where he thinks like we win game. because that is who he is. Turns out. that's probably.

>> the right move. >> Big probably most important part of it. Pat, what you got on your wrist, man? >> Which one? This one? >> No, the left one. Show me the watch. >> Okay. >> Give a damn about that bracelet. >> Okay. I BELIEVE UH THIS MY DAUGHTER. MY. DAUGHTER MADE THIS. >> OH, I CARE ABOUT THE BRACELET. >> YEAH. OKAY. >> I NEVER KNOW. I I never know. You might. have dropped a bag on that bracelet. >> No, no, no, no, no. My daughter My. daughter made this. sentimental. I love. the bracelet now. Way to make me feel. like [ __ ] in the middle of. >> you KNOW MY DAUGHTER MY daughter is old.

enough to know that old uncle swagoo is. an [ __ ] I think she I will run this. back and she will know that I'm joking. Yeah, >> it'll change when she meet me. >> Yeah. So I uh Yeah, I agree quickly. And. she is uh she's fun, man. It's so much. fun. >> How old is she now? >> Three three and like three months or so. We got in the middle of it. >> Yeah, we got. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Starting to roll now. >> Yeah. That's incredible. A lot of guilt. though. She's learning guilt. So, this. season is going to be much tough. But. she's able to travel now with me, I. think. You know, we're fully We're fully.

pooping and peeing in toilets. Okay. Yeah, we're fully human at this point. A. lot of. >> Don't let us sit on them nast stadium. toilets. >> No, no, we are. >> You got you got to bring some Yeah. You. and wife bring some cover guards for. that, man. That's what my wife See, hey, speaking of how you brought me into the. show, my wife my kids asses have never. touched public toilets. It's just just. one of the things. >> How about that? Good. YOU DID IT. YOU. DID IT. You made it. You made it. I.

mean, that is a huge deal. All right, let's get let's talk about LSU right. now. >> Okay, let's talk about LSU right now. >> Let's do it. >> Where do you stand last night? 160 vote. 16. >> of the members of the SEC voted and all. 16 of them said, "Yep, we're cool with. uh rules being instated where you can't. be a professional football player and. then come back and play in college.". That would mean LSU voted yes for this. Okay, which is a very fascinating little. wrinkle in this all because obviously.

LSU and Baton Rouge is the epicenter of. this entire conversation. I have said. and I think it should be said that if. LSU is the only team that signs anybody. like this, obviously it's gonna be but. if there's a a plethora of teams or a. handful of teams that are doing this, I'll be intrigued to see how the convo. goes. Now you. >> as a representative of LSU and obviously. you understand that you are in the. middle of this uh entire story with. Lane. Where do you stand and what are. your thoughts on it? >> Well, I don't I don't like dudes going. pro and then deciding to come back. I.

don't like that and it's a little bit. personal for me. And then too, like I. get the five for five and people want to. use that rule, but when most of these. guys went into college, it wasn't five. for five. The rule should apply to the. new people that's coming in college. They they are under that. That's the way. it goes. [ __ ] [ __ ] has evolved since you. and I and everybody in in the studio in. the Thunderdome has left college. Things. have changed that would have been better. for us, but we weren't able to take. advantage of them cuz that wasn't the. time we were in school. So, I got that.

part out. Pat, you know, with my kids, bro, I've been around high school. sports, grassroots sports. >> for uh uh for [ __ ] all their life. And. you see the impact it has on. developmental high school players, like guys when we were coming into. school where a coach would say, "Yeah, he's going to be a red shirt, but we. going to give him a scholarship and. he'll turn into a player that we want to. play." Now, I know money has become a. part of college and everybody want guys.

to star right away. They want a. production right away because of NIL and. I get that. But a large part of this. high school segment has been affected by. this this these age gaps and coaches. saying like, bro, I've had basketball. coaches during my son recruiting be. like, look, we only taking one or two. freshman because everybody else coming. out of the portal and that's what we're. waiting on. We're waiting on the portal. And to their defense, if you got a guy.

that has averaged 17 and eight last year. in college basketball, you going to take. that over a project coming out of high. school. The problem is a lot of people. like us who who's in television, you. guys do a hell of a job bringing these. guys on that are getting recruited and. signing, but ultimately people don't. understand the impact that this is. having on high school athletes, bro. like it's almost to a point and and my. son look my son number one player in the. country when he was in high school my. daughter number one volleyball player.

right so it was a different path for. them but every kid not like that like. you got guys in in high school. basketball now that regardless of how. you feel about rank that are ranked 30. and below where college coaches are like. well we going to wait to see if we going. to offer you a scholarship bro if you. was ranked top 30 in high school. basketball last like 10 years ago, North. Carolina knocking at your door and Duke. knocking at your door. Now they knock at. the top five players door and they hope.

they get one or two of them and then. they move on. Like Texas this year with. my son, that team is comprised of some. transfers, a lot of juniors, a lot of. sophomores. I think my son is one of. three freshman on the team this year. So. again, like bro, it's it's an impact. that's being had. And then too, like. once you declare for the pros, I've. never had a problem with that rule. Once. you declare to go be a pro, you're done. with college. That's how I feel about. it. >> So it thank you for the transparency and.

also coming from the perspective in. which you're coming from because you. your kids obviously number one number. one, but a lot of their friends and. teammates obviously going through a lot. of these problems. And from my. perspective, this started happening with. punters with Aussies like Aussie guys. from. >> Yeah. So they they would come over as. like 23 year olds, 24 year olds. they. wouldn't have started their university. in Australia because they were. professional Aussie rules football. players and they've been punting their. entire life. So, it's like, would you. rather have a 17-year-old American kid. that is punted, I don't know, four,

five, maybe months, six months, or would. you rather have a 24 year old. professional guy coming in with a family. to be there? It's like you're picking. that guy every single time. >> I'm picking that I'm picking that guy. every single And the Aussies are. awesome. I like I think the Aussies are. incredible. Everyone that I've met I've. absolutely loved. But you saw like I I. thought about like a younger version of. me like when I was 17 coming out. Would. I have been able to compete with a 24. year old? I don't Yeah, exactly. And now. it's then basketball started creeping. in, right? The G-League guys started. coming in and then once this transfer.

portal became like a free agency every. single offseason. You can see to your. point why the rosters at the top are. like we're spending money on improving. guys. We don't have time to waste. But. there's going to become schools that are. just like. >> freshman and then they're going to be. the transfer. There's going to be two. different there's gonna be a divider of. how you make teams because I think you. >> and Pat think about this think about. this Pat everybody everybody they're in. the Thunderdome right now. >> bro do you know what kind of man I was. at 23 as opposed to 17 when it came to.

ability physical strength. >> like bro I. >> when when I when we made the jump to. college and we played against seniors. that were 20 and 21 years old them some. [ __ ] felt like machines. >> Mhm. They felt like like I Dwayne. Pierce, a offensive lineman at LSU, destroyed me every day, but it was. because I was 17 and he was only 20. >> Yeah. >> So imagine, bro, at 23, I was four years.

I'm three years in the NFL. >> Yeah. Yeah. I had a friend in college. I. had a friend in college football. for. football in particular, like I'm not as. staunch on it in basketball because once. you reach a level in basketball, you. playing against older people forever, right? Like that's how you actually cut. your steak and it it that game just goes. like that. But the physical difference. between a 23 and a 17 or even a 18y old,

bro, that is night and day. They show. the pictures of uh freshman showed up on. campuses. Like for instance, that Austin. Atala kid we had just committed to Texas. Tech. He's 68 270. In three years, he. will be 68 340. That guy will be 68 340 335 lbs. Probably running a 4849. too somehow at that at at that size. So. yeah, you're right. You're 100% right. >> Imagine Imagine you going when I got.

drafted to Dallas, right? Imagine me. showing up at Soma Valley State. and I'm I'm a freshman walking into not. a big division one college, not. anything, but Larry Allen is there and. he's 23. >> It's going to be a tough day. >> Come on, man. >> It's going to be a tough day. Crazy. Hey, that's LSU. Hey, that's not just. Okay, I shouldn't say that's just. >> everybody. >> Yeah, I think there's a lot of people. that are uh exploring the rule to see.

what happened. But it feels like the. conference commissioners are at a point. where they're going to be able to. regulate college sports a little bit. Feels like. >> Yes. >> Feels like we're getting to the point. where maybe the conference commissioners. are saying we're going to regulate this. [ __ ] if the NCAA can't. And uh. >> well at some point they had to, bro. Cuz. if you waiting on everything to go to. the Senate floor or legislate, bro, that. take years. Like you'll never you you. won't have order. But Pat, I I do say. this like and I don't want us to forget. this when we having these conversations. about college and the state of it right.

now cuz when the game start, you said it. earlier, bro, we locked in. Like we all. locked in. >> Dude, this is this is nothing but the. answer from a NCAA committee that didn't. evolve. They ne they thought that old. archaic system that they had where you. just come, you get your scholarship, you. play and you go to the pros or you play. and we we present to you that you you. got a degree and we pay for your. scholarship. They thought that [ __ ] was.

going to go forever. And then what. happened was information started to go. everywhere as far as how much money the. tournaments were making, how much money. teams make per game. You see coaches and. all of that dog. I went to war about. this when I was at SEC Network. Like Co. Sabin is that's your dog now. But that's. that's my guy, man. And I got I got so. mad at him and Kirby Smart because there. was a rule in college.

uh prior to where coaches could. determine where guys could transfer. Like they'll put a list of schools. together that you couldn't go to if you. wanted to transfer. And I was like, that. is that's crazy. But under the NCAA. rules, >> Yeah. >> you could do that. Yeah. >> Right. Now, again, >> do we need structure all of that? We. hear these damn conversations every day, bro. But if these like like Greg Sanki, the commissioner of the SEC, if they.

don't step in and just say, "Look, we. going to abide by these laws with our. league, it's going it it it's going to. get more chaotic." But this is all an. answer to what the NCAA was. Y'all were. college athletes, bro. Y'all know how. restrictive that [ __ ] was. I remember. Todd Gurley signing autographs for like. three grand while he was at Georgia. Todd Gurley probably was going to win. the Heisman that year. The way he was. playing, this was when I was at SEC. Network. He came back after a twoame. suspension, I believe, or something like.

that, and tore his ACL. Now, I don't know if he would have. torred if he would have been playing. those previous two weeks or the one. week, but I I just remember that. vaguely. And I remember all of that. tizzy being over 300 I mean $3,000 for. signing some autograph. >> Yeah. One ticket into a suite that's. watching him play now. Um to your point, legit to your point about it all, the. NCAA did fight it every step of the way. There was like an injunction in. California about NIL and they're like, "Nope, we're not doing this. We're. fighting. We're fighting. We're.

fighting. We're fighting. We're. fighting." And I think what you're. saying is if they would have maybe tried. to lean in a little bit, try to figure. out how to do this, maybe we're at a. stage of uh hey, this is reality. This. is going to happen. Do you want to be a. part of it or do you want to get left. behind? Feels like the NCAA because of. the lawsuits getting left behind. But. the conference commissioners now. showcasing that maybe they can take care. of it hopefully. All right, Swagu. >> Thank you, man. >> My brother, >> who's winning? Who's winning Super Bowl? >> Hey, man. I'mma pull up to Indie. Are we. in Indie for Monday night this year?

>> Come on. You're not that. >> Yeah, right. The Colts play here. >> I'm a season ticket. >> Can they flex it? >> You need to stop. You need to stop. >> I mean, we were talking about. >> Who play there? Who play in India, y'all? >> Yeah. Okay. >> Every team wins but them. >> No, WE WERE ON THAT. WE WERE THE BEST. TEAM IN BALL. WE'RE THE BEST TEAM. I. WOULD LIKE TO LET YOU KNOW Swagger. right there. >> Not even awake. >> I am a season ticket holder. Okay. For. the Indianapolis Colts at Lucas Oil. Stadium. >> Pat, I see you there. >> We We. >> I see you there. We ain't never getting. a Monday night football GAME THERE.

OKAY. 1:00. WE WERE AT 1:00. We made a. jersey, an alternate uniform called. Indiana Nights. >> Okay. Cuz she grew up tall and she grew. up right with them Indiana boys on them. Indiana Nights. WE DIDN'T HAVE A SINGLE. NIGHT GAME ON THE SCHEDULE. WE WORE THE. 1:00 IN THE AFTERNOONS JERSEY WAS WORN. AT 1:00 IN THE AFTERNOON CUZ we didn't. have a night game. That's what your. network says about the Indianapolis. Colts. Swagoo. you got Sunday Night. Football against the Chiefs. >> Great. >> They got a ball. >> Yeah, we got week two.

>> Will ball. >> We got the Chiefs number. >> It's gonna be a fun trip though down the. road. We appreciate the hell out of you, man. We're big fans. Cheers, dude. >> All right. All right, fellas. Y'all take. care, man. >> That's Marcus. >> Okay, ladies and gentlemen, joining us. now is a man who's doing something. incredible this season. Uh he's a. national champion. He came really into. the spotlight in the Big 10 Championship. game uh when he was just uh catching. bombs on absolutely everybody. This year. he'll be raising money uh to help and. hopefully uh cure ALS alongside the.

Huddles for Hope. Last year it was. Fernando Mendoza who did this with. restaurant Buffalo Louise down there in. Bloomington. He'll be doing it this year. with something I think a little bit. added on top. Ladies and gentlemen, a. national champion, an absolute stud, a. man who. there's a lot of DB saying, I know what. he looks like. That is not how he plays, though. Ladies and gentlemen, Charlie. Becker, >> how you doing, dude? >> How's it going, boys? Thank you for. having me.

>> Hey, thank you for joining us and thank. you for signing up to do something good. alongside your football season. We. learned the story of your aunt and your. personal kind of experience with the Lou. Garri's disease ALS and why you're kind. of driven to do this. Can you tell us a. little bit more about your Huddle for. Hope uh kind of initiative and what the. plan is for this season? >> Yes, sir. So, um, my family has always. been super close and 5 years ago, we. learned that my aunt was diagnosed with. ALS and, you know, as a close family.

that affected all of us. And, um, you. know, I just I was in a spot where I. couldn't really help and I really wanted. to cuz there's not a cure. And now being. at Indiana, uh, I was put in a position. where um, I could maybe help the. financial burdens cuz it costs a lot of. money. and I, you know, I just want to. do as much as I can for my aunt and. everybody who's affected by this. terrible disease. So, uh, we started, uh, Huddle for Hope to try and ease the. burden.

>> Well, I love that you're doing it. We're. thankful that you're doing it. Obviously, we saw Chris Johnson uh just. a few months back and we're reminded of. how terrible this disease is and how. little we know, you know, uh cuz I think. Chris Johnson's wife said in the. interview with Strahan that it was uh. sporadic. Like they thought maybe. football was a reason, but actually it. was called a sporadic case, which is. like 90% of the cases. And anytime. something's being called sporadic, it. means they don't have a clue on why or. how it happened. And obviously, it's so. so devastating so quickly. So, I.

appreciate you continuing to spread the. word. Now, I've heard potentially. uh we are we're I heard you maybe taking. some NIL money and uh giving back as. well. Is that accurate? Is that a little. uh birdie telling me that you're going. to maybe take some money that you have. earned earned by the way we just talked. about it all and maybe help with the. initiative as well? >> Yes, sir. I I've been extremely blessed. and um we kind of said that for every. touchdown that I get this year uh I'm. going to be putting $1,000 towards the.

foundation. >> I love that. I'm going to match. We will. match. We will match it for every Hell. yeah. Let's go. I like that you're doing. that. >> Thank you so much. Thank you. >> I like that you're doing that. Uh you. know, because obviously uh collegiate. athletes getting paid is a huge topic of. discussion right now across all college. sports. I don't know how much you guys. get to pay attention to, but it is very. loud right now. and the fact that you're. taking some of that, giving back, also. wanting to shine a light on something. that we all will hopefully uh kind of. buy in with. I I love what you're doing. Okay, we will match. We'll also call I. mean like the ALS challenge, we should.

also call for Mark Cuban. We'd like you. to match. Uh we'd like uh let's see, Joe. Buck. >> Joe Buck. We'd like Joe Buck. >> Coach should match. >> Yeah, we'd like. >> Fernando got that first overall pick. money. We'd like him to match. >> and Alberto. >> No. >> Mad Max. >> No. Mad Max Mendoza though. Anybody know. he's getting some podcasting money and. what we're saying is we would like. anybody uh. >> to join alongside of us. That's huge of. you. How old are you? How old are you? >> Uh I just turned 21. >> Dude, I love that you're doing this.

Happy birthday. Happy birthday. Now, we. know your generation doesn't drink. They're saying that uh everything is. done uh in the alcohol department with. your generation. So, we would tell you. to be safe obviously now that you're of. age. And in Bloomington, we know have to. be of age to have a good time down. there. The rules are very, very strict. Can you tell me a little bit about life. now as a national champion football. player at IU versus maybe whenever the. dreams were still there last year or the. year before? >> Yes, sir. Um, to be honest, last year's.

last year and uh we we just got wrapped. up with fall camp. So, um, starting this. week, we're going to be focusing on. North Texas and the season that we have. coming up. >> Yes. Who told you that? Who is that? Did. Sig say? Who told who said it? Was it. Keg? Was it Sig? Who said, "Hey, let's. remember now." Okay, last season 16 and0. never going to happen again. Okay, listen. That team's gone forever. That. championship, last year's team, we're. zero and zero. Bottom of the mountain.

Everybody's got to climb to the top. One. day at a time, one play, six seconds at. a time. Each play has a life of its own. Is that what you're hearing every day. right now? Has that been the messaging. from coach Sig to you guys? >> I mean, we got back and I think a week. after the national championship, Sig had. a team meeting with the new team and. he's like, "Guys, last year's last year. We're not focusing on that. It's time to. get it's time to go. It's time to play. some ball and uh you know, we all bought. in and I think we're really excited.". >> Tell me a little bit about Hoover. Tell. me a little bit about how the ball's. coming out for you cuz obviously uh we.

have your stat across the bottom there. Yeah. 20 yards per reception. Okay. and. they they were all over they were in the. Big 10 champions. Rose Bowl was national. I mean you're talking about the biggest. moments Charlie Becker was getting big. chunks in the biggest games. Can you. tell me a little bit about the ball. coming out of Hoover's hands versus. maybe Fernando's? >> Yeah. Uh Josh was an amazing addition. for us. Uh, I'm really happy that we got. him. And he, uh, you know, as as soon as. our national championship was done, he. was texting me asking me, uh, hey, you. want to go throw on Saturday mornings.

and Sunday mornings and, you know, just. get this ball rolling, start this. connection. Uh, which is a testament to. how much of a hard worker Josh is. And, you know, whenever I'm in the facility, Josh is here. He's watching film. Um, him and our our other quarterback, Grant. Wilson, they're watching film 247. and. uh they're great people, even better. football players. Uh and I'm I'm super. pumped to see what they can do. >> Love that. Can't wait to watch you guys. try to run it back. Tone has a question. for you. >> Yeah, on that. Uh Sig recently said that. last year when you guys walked off this.

scrimmage field uh in 2025 that the. passing offense was not great and then. you guys went on to win the national. championship and Mendoza won the. Heisman. He said this year he feels like. you guys are in a lot better spot. How. does that feel with you and Nick Marsh. and Hoover? How's it how's how's it. different this year? Uh, and how you. feeling about it? >> I feel great. I'm super excited. Uh, we. had a lot of good additions, like you. said, Nick Marsh, Josh Hoover, uh, Turbo. Richardson, our our running back. We. retained a lot of our O linemen. Uh, I. was saying earlier just, you know, we.

got dogs all over the field. Um, from it. starts from the O line. Uh, they did a. fantastic job of retaining I think, you. know, we only lost Pat Kugan last year. to he's on the Titans now. And so, uh, we got studs on the O line and look at. our backfield. We got Turbo, uh, Lee and. Kobe. Just some absolute dogs. And then, um, you know, receiving room, we added. Nick, we added Shaz, we got a lot lot of. young guys. Uh, Da'Von Chandler, LeBron. Bond, Jackson Was, those guys are going. to ball out. They had a great fall camp,

and I'm looking forward to seeing what. they can do. And, you know, Josh, he. he's really taken control of the. offense. Uh, he's he's brought us all. together, rallies the boys. Uh, and I'm. I'm I'm super so pumped. >> Okay, so what are the boys doing. whenever we rally? We have uh we we hang. out. We uh sink the biz. >> We play some maybe we we have a biz that. needs to be sunk. Maybe we play video. games. We watch film. We tell stories. We play chess. What What are we doing? Cuz you guys are so young. I'm 39. How. old are you? >> 40.

>> Yeah, we're old, dude. So, what are you. what are you guys doing uh as a team, especially with new pieces coming in and. having to build camaraderie as quick as. possible? >> Yeah. I mean, outside of football, we we. just got done with fall camp, so we're. at the facility all month, 24/7. And so, ping pong is a huge thing for us. Like, we have tournaments. We have a a WWE. belt that's got ping pong balls on it. You know, we got the championship of the. ping pong table. And uh we got cornhole. going. So, you know, whenever we get. some free time, we're everything here is.

about competition and everybody's just. trying to beat everybody uh and get that. belt. >> How are you at ping pong? >> I'm nasty. You're the guy. You got the title. >> Uh, I think Grant Wilson has the title. right now. He's pretty good. But, uh, you know, I'm I'm up there. I'm getting. there. >> How about cornhole? >> Oh, I'm from Nashville, man. That's all. we do in Nashville. >> Yeah. Okay. I bet. Yeah. I play a couple. people for Tennessee. We smoke you, bro. You get Absolutely. Yeah. Absolutely.

Great. You You throwing uh pancake or. you go end over end? >> Pancake. >> Yeah. Okay. We We air mail plus slide. Oh, you slide. Play defense. You set up. you you got a strategy or are you just. out there trying to get as many points. as possible? >> As many points as possible. >> Yeah. Yeah. You're done. You're too. young. We'd walk in there. Yeah. You. >> give away your game plan. You young kids. got no idea. You had no idea. I was So I. wasn't introduced to Gornhole until I. got out here to the Colts and I think it. was when Chuck came over from Baltimore, they brought it in to our locker room.

and obviously kicker punter. I got a lot. of meetings, you know, but I got to be. in that building. So, man, I became a. pro cornhole player for like three. years. I love that. I love. >> My roommate's a punter, too. So, he's. he's done all those meetings there. Yeah, he's. >> Yeah. >> Hey, but you got to be able to You hit. two shanks though. People really stop. caring about how good you are at. Cornhole. I learned, you know, that is. uh something we got to do. Okay, let's. talk about you. This year is going to be. different than last year. We saw you. rise to prominence towards the end of. the season. Obviously, in the biggest. moments, a little bit different this.

year heading in, it seems. Go ahead, DB. >> Absolutely. was a former DB. Charlie, you're not sneaking up on anybody this. year. We know you're the deep ball. threat, but what specific, I guess, improvements did you look to make in. your game this off seasonason heading. into this next season? >> Yes, sir. I'm really looking to uh just. expand my route tree and, you know, people like you say, just know the the. deep ball threat. Um, but you know, I'm. really looking forward to being able to. show uh all the other route trees that I. can do and being able to get some yak.

>> All right. Well, >> let's see how it goes for the Indiana. Hooers as we uh don't even think about. winning the national championship last. year. >> Don't even remember it. Don't even think. about Wow, what a time out there in a. Rose Bowl just absolutely pummeling. Alabama. >> Was he the only underassman there uh at. the SB sitting in front of us? Was he. the only one that could have remembered? >> Yeah, I don't know. >> Was there any other underassman there. with you? >> I was not at the SBS. >> You thought you were. >> No, it was all the older guys. how foos.

drum. Sorry about that. See, once again, he's not worried about defending a. national championship. He's out there. sinking base whenever he's not even at. Knicks or whatever the hell it is. >> That was Mad Max Mendoza. >> Oh, yeah. You're right. That was. >> similar similar. >> He's a boy. He's a boy. We went to. Florida for uh for a little break that. we had and got to spend time with the. Mendozas and Max is a he's he's a boy. >> Yes, he certainly. >> trying to steal our beers. >> Yeah, he was trying to steal our beers. Steal our steal a lot of things. got on. the show, stole a microphone, stole the.

show. That's what Mad Max does. It does. Uh, when are you getting the title back. for when do we play? We play every day. That's like a constantly evolving thing. Do you put that over the shoulder? Do. you wear it around the waist? How's. coach Signetti feel about the title at. the ping pong table? >> I don't think he knows about the the. title. Um, but every day, you know, it's. a tournament. Um, you know, whoever's on. top gets a belt. >> Okay, let's say game day comes down. there. You know, couple games. There's. there's two games I think that we're. potentially eyeing to get to. Bloomington, have a home game. You know,

potentially that Ohio State game. I. assume we're we're probably going to be. Donner. Who knows who uh what other. Listen, you got to take care of North. Texas, Charlie. Don't even look at the. rest of their schedule. Okay. Don't even. look at it. >> Yeah. But on that note, there's a. there's a couple opportunities probably. get down to Bloomington and celebrate. the hell out of football and life. You. guys play on Fridays as well or And what. are the rules? We're throwing ball or do. we hit out of hand like we're amateurs? Well, you know, Pat, in season we we try. to we try to stay away from pingpong,

but any anytime you want the smoke, man, you let me know. >> What are the rules on serves? I need to. know what the rule is on serves. Are you. hitting it out of your hand like a child. or you playing actual uh table tennis? >> Toss it up. >> All right. Okay. Listen, I didn't know. you you new school dudes, you know? I. don't know how it is. I don't know how. it is. All right. Good luck this year, man. You're the best. >> Thank you guys so much for having me on. >> Thank you for donating, dude. That's. cool. That's really cool to do. And uh. we're excited to join you alongside Mark. Cuban, Joe Buck, uh and everybody else.

>> Yeah. Fernando Schwarbo. It'll be. awesome. We appreciate the hell out of. you, man. Ladies and gentlemen, Charlie. Becker. >> from Indiana. Let's go to a West. Virginia press conference. We have a. fullback named Kaden Cowboy Luke. And he. said his job is to uh knock people on. our ass. That's it. Yeah, I'm thinking. West Virginia's back. How about that? And they're not in the FCSD debut. I can. already tell that that was your next. question. Are they playing tomorrow. night? No, they are not playing tomorrow. night. Thank you for not mentioning. that.

>> I wouldn't disrespect Western like that. We we had our battles back in the Big. East days and I and look, Rich Rob was. on that sideline, so I have no doubt. that he can build a monster, but um you. know, it's a different different. ecosystem. >> Yeah, I think college football is a. little different, but don't worry about. that. West Virginia's in the game. >> Hard edge. Trust the clin. >> Yep. >> No, hard edge. >> That's actually No, trust the clin. that's actually coaching um. >> North Texas Indiana week one and they. just named uh IU's former quarterback, one of their former quarterbacks their. starter. So. >> yeah, story lines. >> No, Tav Jackson. He was there when uh.

Curtis Ror was. >> centergrove legend. Uh he's from the. south Indianapolis. No. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> That's our back here. I got to say kid. Canada. >> He started this kid Canada's little. brother actually. Remember Curtis's. older brother was Kid Canada. So this is. Kid Kid Canada. Also in football, Lil. Wayne. >> Lil Wayne. He's a kicker. I'll tell you. that. I saw him make a 35 yard and uh I. forget the other other distance, but I. love the fact that Weezy Faby's boy.

He's kicking field goals. And uh I I. appreciate the Okay, so he's a soccer. player. I think he has a sweet tat on. his left uh leg as well where he looks. cool. I saw him catching some punt snaps. on the sideline. I don't know if he was. just helping out his snapper. He's. actually doing that. stepping out there. kicking obviously something sweet for. the brand and I can't wait to hear. wheezy make uh 35 to 60 metaphors about. kicking field goals in his next work. which we are all grateful for football. we got to remember whatever we get onto. the field is the best sport of all time.

>> okay all this stuff that's been. happening around it is about to go to. sleep hopefully now I was firmly in the. camp that the NFL guys who didn't make. teams who are utilizing their fifth year. of eligibility were going to be playing. football this. Now that the commissioners of these. conferences are kind of coming out and. they're kind of peacocking a little bit. and if we've talked about people that. have power in college sports, the names. always seemingly go right back to Petiti. and Seni, >> the Big 10 commissioner Patiti and the.

SEC commissioner Greg Seni. They were. the last two to sign off on the Protect. College Sports Act. Now, was that. because they wanted to showcase to. everybody like, "Hey, we'll let you know when this is good, or. were they actually worried about some of. the things that were going to affect the. two biggest conferences in all of. college sports?" Whatever the case, if. they're going to start taking a little. bit of ownership, this is kind of like. uh, you know, states having power, like. uh, conference having power. So, maybe. we don't have to worry about a national. entity. If the conferences are able to. come together, this might be a good. showcase of that. And maybe this is what.

we need for the future. >> Yeah. and it kind of just take up all. the problems that we have with the NCAA. They just kind of get rid of them. Then. the NCAA can just do their March Madness. thing because it feels like that's all. they really have any power over or care. about. And then the commissioners can. just be those people and then there. isn't a need for one, you know, commissioner to unite them all. It's. like, hey, just treat your leagues as. your own. And guess what? If you are. Petiti and Seni, all the other. commissioners, they're just going to. say, yep, you're right. Let's do that in. our league, too. Like the ACC and Big 12.

have already started to do. and Bvakqua. right at Notre Dame cuz I feel like he. would. >> they really suspend a coach. >> That would be huge. And would the coach. sue them? >> And how would that work? Would the judge. then just put in a suspension of the. suspension and then inevitably do you. kick the can down. >> which might be worse if you were. suspended for the start of the next. season. >> or the judge says, "Yeah, he's he's your. coach. You can do whatever you want.". >> And then what? Then there's inevitable. court. >> Football starts. >> Yeah. Right. We will continue to talk.

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Super duper responsible. With that being. said, we've fared pretty well actually. in this entire preseason. Will that lead. to the best season yet? >> Feels like it. Joining us now is a man. who's uh really thrown high heat. He's. representing the entire state of Ohio in. everything that happens within its. borders. Y. >> doesn't matter if it's in a trailer park. or in a stadium, ladies and gentlemen. To get to the bottom of it, college. football national champion, Super Bowl. champion, Rder Cup winner, ladies and. gentlemen, AJ Hawk.

>> Trailer, trailer, trailer. >> I do not speak for anybody that spent. some time on the the border of Ohio and. Pennsylvania, you know, maybe possibly. point into a mobile home park. That has. nothing to do with me. >> Okay. Well, I understand that you were. trying to defer that even to. Pennsylvania at one point yesterday. But. >> that's basically PA. We know that. >> No. Nope. It is Ohio. No state is. basically another state. That's why. there's borders. True. Okay. That that. is why that kind of takes place. And.

Ohio is certainly its own country, >> which is a much deeper conversation, I. guess. You know, how are we all supposed. to agree when you got like a country of. Ohio that exists. >> and then they're supposed to all have. the same opinion as somebody who's from. Florida and. >> Louisiana. down there occasion down by and let. alone California, southern part of it. and northern part of and then the inland. part of it. >> I don't know how we're all supposed to. >> or not. Okay. >> So, it makes it great. >> That's why sports are the best.

>> Exactly. >> Speaking of sports. Yes. What's that? >> Thank you, Darius. United States of. America. >> United. >> Yeah, >> that's right. >> We're not supposed to all think the same. thing and have the same opinions, but. we're supposed to be able to. respectfully disagree. >> There you go. >> That's right. And move about our day. >> Mhm. >> But every once in a while, you got to. take a stand, don't you? Right here. For. instance, sounds like the commissioners, including Mr. Patiti, who obviously. represents the Big 10, he's saying, "Hey, go ahead. Do the little NFL thing.

See what happens. You'll get you'll be. gone. Okay? We we'll suspend you. you. obviously uh will lose paychecks, you'll. lose opportunities, your your team. hopefully will lose, you know, that that. is a hope that we are hoping that'll. happen as well. Uh but you're going to. have say then the SEC is coming out. saying, "Okay, yeah, we'll do the same. thing." We might be getting to a point. and he said United States of America. I. believe the states were supposed to. govern the states and then we're all. supposed to come together and do the. entire thing. And obviously since 1776, 250 years later, it's certainly gotten a. bit convoluted on how it all goes. But.

it does feel like the commissioners in. the conferences, you go back to the Big. 12 with what happened with Sorsby, feels. like they're going to maybe be the ones. that are going to be able to keep us uh. going forward, AJ, potentially. And and. I'm excited about that genuinely because. I was very worried about how this could. all potentially blow up very quickly. We. got gambling, we got pros going back, we. got this going back. It's like at some. point there's going to have to be a. breaking point, but it's like the. product on the field's so good, we need. to keep it alive. Might be the. commissioner's jobs, AJ. >> Yeah, I guess it could be. I so like.

what's what's going to happen in the. next 10 days, 10 to 15 days. I know the. 31st something's coming down, right? There's some kind of ruling. >> Yeah, I think what's going to happen is. the commissioners are going to tell uh. seems like the whoever voted for LSU. said we're not bad about it either. I. mean, I I don't know what to tell you. 160 vote is uh pretty one-sided affair. and that would include LSU doing that. Now, are they doing what the NFL owners. do, which is we're all voting for this. whether we like it or not. Good. >> Okay. Even if there's two people that.

are against, I think Mark Davis is. really the only person that's ever been. able to break through and be a one. oppose vote against things. Normally, they try to show a united front. Now, it. does feel like maybe this is when these. conferences and commissioners are having. these conversations and saying, "Hey, we. need to be a united front here on. everything if we want to kind of keep. this going the way we're going." Maybe. this will be the answer for the good of. the sport. But what I do know, FCS games. start tomorrow night. Youngsttown State. plays, North Dakota plays, then we got. this weekend, week zero. We're in. Ireland. We're going to get a chance to.

see UNC play for the first time, you. know, under under this new era and then. we're off and running. AJ, it is a. spectacular time to be a fan of sport. and to be alive. Uh, whenever you look. at this lake this weekend, obviously. getting eyes on USC will be sweet cuz. for how many years do we think Lincoln. Riley has over there if he's not. successful? And is this year going to be. his best year? Favored by 30 plus. TCU. favored by seven and a half over there. in Ireland against Bill Bichc's boys. How does that team look this year? They. had a recruiting class for the first.

time. Remember last year they didn't. have. >> What are we hearing on them for real? What have we heard any like is it more. positive than it has been? >> Investigation. investigation. >> I mean on the field on the field the. product on the field. >> They they named a starter. It would have. to be better than what it was last year. Remember um in Paul Finebomb I believe. said yesterday uh that he is inching. closely to the worst college football. coach of all time is what he said about. Bill Bich. especially if he's not able. to. He said that yesterday. >> How could you even like. >> He's just saying if you look at the the. the chaos, the controversies, the uh.

record, you you name it. The. expectations, there's an argument for. it. And I'm like, there is certainly an. argument that could be made that this. has been a massive failure. Now, has it. been a massive failure because the noise. outside of the building? Yeah, I think. the noise outside of the building was. very, very loud. I think they were going. to try to attack however they possibly. could. They certainly have. And now. there's been reasons and they've been. giving reasons to potentially be. attacked. But we talked to Marcus Spears. uh last hour about how when he was going. through the recruiting process with high. school kids, how the transfer portals.

kind of taken away uh the high school. kind of opportunity. They firmly believe. in like recruiting. Uh let's get these. seniors in here. Let's develop them. They they want to turn it into like a. full development option. And last year. they didn't have a recruiting class. This year they have a recruiting class. And they also use the transfer portal a. little bit. I'd assume they think. they're in a much better spot now, but I. guess we find out this weekend against. TCU is always good at football. >> Yeah, I believe they have uh UNCC this. is I believe they have 40 incoming. freshman and 30 transfers. So, 70 new. players uh this year. Um they do have.

some guys from last year who were good. Uh Billy Edwards is a is a decent. college quarterback. He was good at. Maryland, not so good at Wisconsin. injuries there. So, we'll see. I mean, they bring in Bobby Petrino at OC who. scores everywhere and anywhere that he's. ever been. TCU had some locker room. issues, uh, but they bring in Harvard. quarterback Jaden Craig, so that'll be. interesting there. We will find out a. lot in that first game there in Ireland. >> Yeah, we certainly will. And Hawaii, hey, I hope they play really good this. year. >> Mhm. >> I'd like them to be able to host a game.

day. >> Maybe a couple. >> They might. >> Maybe a maybe a couple year. >> They're going to be a good team. >> Yeah, maybe two or three of them late in. the season. Just back to back. They they. >> got Timmy Chang back leading that team. >> Do they really? Yeah. I like head coach. >> What's that? Pack 12. They're in Pack. 12. Mountain Whoa. Whoa. >> Mountain West is Pack 12, right? Are. they No. Two separate. >> But. >> the Mountain West makes I mean Pack 12. North Dakota State is in the Mountain. West. You I mean it just makes no sense. >> No, college makes sense, dude. This all. makes. >> sure. And I also, you know, you want.

Hawaii to get game day. Didn't you say. Andrew Luck is legitimately thinking. that Stanford might win the national. championship this year? >> That was one of the most. >> No, he is. >> interesting. Not national championship. not national championship this year, but. that was one of the most interesting. interactions I had in uh Canton that. entire time, you know, the the literally. the entire weekend. Go come out of the. bathroom. He's going in the bathroom. First time I've seen him. A lot of. people everywhere, you know, not like uh. doing this entire thing. Andrew, so good. to see you, man. >> We got to get you out of there. We got.

to get you to a place, you know, cuz I I. think you're probably really good at. what you're doing right now. Your dad. obviously has managed teams your entire. life. You've kind of seen it. You're. super smart. You obviously know the ins. and outs. passionate about it. I think. he wanted to be a high school football. coach at one point. It's like, "We got. to get you a place that can win." He. goes, "We can win." Like straight face. I'm like, "Yeah." And he was like, "No.". >> Like he was offended by what you were. saying. >> Yeah. Yeah. Like he he was serious. >> Yeah. He was very serious. I'm like, "Okay." He goes, "We already we just got. a guy. We just got somebody from.

somebody. We're finding our people. again." I'm like, "Hell yeah. Okay. I'm. pulling for you." So, I'm picking. Stanford to win every game until they. lose. >> Okay. And I'm also believing in the. four-year plan at Stanford. Okay. I. think Andrew Luck's committed and I. think they have a chance this year. though. I don't know if game day is. heading up there. I hope we get an. opportunity to. Would be nice to kind of. walk those lands. Really tall trees. Really, really. >> beautiful campus. >> Really big brains up there. Uh but it. feels like uh. >> might take some time. >> We all kind of know what's going to. happen. >> He made me a believer. >> Me too. >> He gave me the same prize or same Oh,

no. Not year one. >> Were you right before they have any. money? They have any money to give? That's the question. Well, they give the. money to football. Some of these super smart institutions. have money, but it's like convincing. these uh finance people that, hey, you. get zero ROI other than maybe a good. parking spot and your football team's. good. I think it's tough sell for some. of these people. Now, there's other. schools where they get these finance. people and they're like, "Hey, you. entrance in back here. You give us 10.

million bucks, we'll get a couple of. this." Big clap. Uh what else? Your team. would be good. You'll be able to brag. Deal. Here's 30 million. Actually, he. wanted 10. Here's actually 30. Some of. these places I think it's tough to maybe. get their money people to fully buy in. on. So, this person can transfer at the. end of the year and I still have to pay. them and they're not even going to be on. the team and this doesn't guarantee a. win. And do I have any say anything or. is there any? No. Nothing. I don't have. a percentage of the team. Nothing. No. Nothing at all. Parking spot. Really, really, really good parking spot. Might.

be tough to get Sanford people to do it, but one school did it that made me. believe. Northwestern. >> I don't think any of us would have. expected Northwestern to be invested in. a football team. They got a brand new. stadium. Remember, they got Kelly. wearing a little hard hat, the vest out. there. They got everything coming. together. One of the most prominent. alumni of Northwestern, a man who uh has. been on your television for 30 years on. ESPN. >> Now, we were not asked to send a video. congratulating him on his show. Shout.

out to everybody over there. Uh, but we. are very grateful cuz he was first. person to put me on ESPN on a regular. basis. Has always been incredibly kind. to us and is a man that we've watched. I'm 39 since I'm literally 9 years old. doing sports the right way. Ladies and. gentlemen, a member of every single Hall. of Fame that he could potentially be. eligible for already. Mike Greenberg. >> How are you, man? >> Thank you very much. Hi, guys. It's good. to see you. >> Yeah, we weren't we weren't asked to. make a video. We we were not happy about. not being asked about making a video.

Every other employee of ESPN basically. or anybody that has ever been around you. was asked to make a video. We're. watching these videos unfold and how THE. [ __ ] THAT GUY GET AN OPPORTUNITY to. say we don't even get opportunity. So we. just want to let you know we are very. grateful for you. We understand the. importance of you in our story as a. whole and also sports as a whole. So. thank you for your service to sports. brother. Legitimately we're very very. grateful for you man. Well, you have more than exceeded my. expectation. I was hosting what was at.

that moment a somewhat floundering new. morning talk show and I needed something. that might give it a jump start and I. saw you speak at the NFL draft in. Nashville and I said there's something. there and that was where I got the idea. to try it. The idea that you would then. parlay that into not that long. thereafter becoming literally the. biggest star I've ever seen in sports. media. I don't know that I foresaw that, but I will gladly take all the credit. for it. And whoever it is, I will get to.

the bottom of whoever it is that put. together those videos today and did not. ask you guys to be a part of it cuz. that's a disgrace. >> What's his name? Pete. Is that his name? I I think we know. >> No, it's Pete's on vacation. Pete. Famble. >> No, it might Hembo. Yeah, >> it might have been Hembo. Might have. been Hembo. >> It wouldn't be Hembo. I don't think so. Hembo is too busy right now. They're. working out the the potential completion. percentage of all of the quarterbacks in. the National Football League for the. upcoming season. That takes him a little.

time. >> I do love the homework assignments that. seemingly happy for or happen for Hembo. And then the next day we get to reap the. benefits of it as well cuz you'll text. it over to us. Hey, did you know boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. It's like I feel. like I just got a glimpse into Greenie's. brain right there on what Greenie is. looking for. He's a weapon as are you. We're very grateful for you. Can we talk. a little bit about the current state of. sports as a whole? Obviously, we'll get. to the NFL and everything good. college. sports here. We're new to the game. I. mean, I think we've been doing a live. show now seven years or something like. that. I I I think is the uh the. timeline. Maybe eight. I don't know. >> Eight.

>> Eight years. We've been doing a live. show. So, very very young in this. particular world. We were very NFL heavy. for a while because it was uh what we. thought people would want us to talk. about. Why are we going to talk about. stuff we don't know about? Getting. dropped into the college football world. with game day 2019 and then yet again. three years ago, it's like, wow, this is. just an entire universe. It it is a. completely different world. It's. awesome. The pageantry, the tradition, the environments, the spectacles, the. story. It's It is awesome. Pete Tamill. though comes into us and says, "Hey,

listen. If you want stability, you go. somewhere else, pal. This is how this. has been since the beginning of time.". Is this legitimately what college sports. has been forever? Is it just being. spotlighted more now because there's. money involved with the players? Or why. do you think we're at this point of. complete chaos? And why is it just kind. of understood that this is how college. sports is from your perspective? The. answer is both. Certainly, for as long. as I've been around, which is whatever. it is now in the business in general, 35. years, um, and probably long before. that, there has been unimaginable.

corruption. The old expression that I. think was originally attributed to. NASCAR definitely applies, which is if. you ain't cheating, you ain't trying. Everyone was trying to cheat. Everyone. was slipping players money under the. table and all sorts of things that were. then against the rules. So to that. extent there has always been that. element of college sports. The part of. it that of course is brand new as you. just pointed out is that now there are. no rules. There's a great uh line in the. movie Greece which I love when they're.

going to have the race John Travolta is. going to race in the car and the guy. says the rules are there ain't no rules. And that's exactly what is going on in. collegiate sports right now. There are. no rules. We've got guys leaving NFL. teams because it is more lucrative for. them to go back and play in college. Um, and I'm one of the very few people who. does not think that is the end of the. world. I know that the Big 10 and the. SEC are now treating that as though it's. the most terrible thing that ever. happened. I actually agreed with what. Lane a lot of what Lane Kein said on.

your show yesterday, which is um, if. everyone else is going to if anyone can. be doing it, we should be doing it. I. don't think he should be criticized for. that. his job is to win football games. It's not to achieve some sort of state. of morality that the sport has. absolutely never aspired to. And second. of all, it's not like Patrick Mahomes is. coming back and playing for Texas Tech. You're talking about people who are sort. of right on the fringe. Like like AJ, I'm I'm looking at your face and trying. to gauge what your reaction to this is.

If you've got a guy who is an undrafted. free agent, goes through the process at. in the NFL, doesn't make it, let's not, not Daquin Wright, who sort of seems to. have had this deal, >> but so who just goes through the process. and and the very end he is cut and now. his options are A, go find a career. somewhere else, go do something else. with for a living, or B, the colleges. are offering you money to come back and. play. I'm not a 100% sure why we think.

it is the end of the world that B is an. option. Now, I'm sure there are reasons. I'm not thinking of why this is. terrible, but I'd love to hear exactly. what they are. >> Yeah. I mean, I think as far as players, they're talking like it's it's. supposedly unfair, right? If you're a. player and you went through training. camp and you do all this and then all of. a sudden, hey, a week before the the. first game, an NFL guy that was in camp. comes back and takes your gig. I. understand that part of it, but I don't. know, Granny. I don't I would never. blame the player. If you're a guy that's.

trying to play in the NFL, you're trying. to continue playing. If you have the. option to go back, yeah, I'm going to go. try to play anywhere. I'll go to the. Arena League, the US XFL, what we call. it, I'm going anywhere. So, I the the. fact that it's only possibly a one-year. deal is why I think it's it's not a huge. a huge thing. >> AJ literally just said, you can't hate. the player here. You got to hate the. game. And that's kind of what you said. about Lane Keifin right there. Now, I. think the way you chitchated about the. way the conferences have come out and. said like, hey, this is the worst thing. in the world. I think the conference. commissioners watched what happened with. Sorsby and the Big 12 and inevitably uh.

Texas Tech and Sorsby both kind of. backing off of that decision. I think. the commissioners are trying to figure. out whether or not they can be the ones. that can kind of maybe be. >> the guardians the guardians the guard. rails of college sports as a whole. Like. is it a big deal? Uh especially with you. know we got guys playing eight years, nine years, six years and all these. things. is when you talk about these. five for five guys, I I think back in. the day a little bit more because. professional amateurism status, right? That was always the thing. Now. everybody's kind of professional, but I.

think this is the commissioners just. being like, "No, like this cannot this. cannot be what this is anymore." And I. think we need more of that to be honest. Now, who will sue and what will the. ruling say and how will the courts deem. it all, I guess, is what we got to look. at next. But to your point, like. listening to Lane explain why he's doing. it and he's like, "We're either playing. with the guy or against the guy and my. job is to win." And then players having. an option to make like 350,000, 500,000. or go sell insurance maybe later or play. in the CFL for 75,000 or 100,000 or.

whatever. I understand why they want to. do it. I could see why Lane would want. to do it. But there's a lot of coaches. that are saying we're not doing it. And. it feels like the commissioners now for. the first time are saying we're not. doing it. It It's an interesting time, man. It does feel like we're at a. boiling point, old Greeny. I know that. probably happens a lot in this world. thinking, "How could it get crazier? How. could it get could it get any bigger?". This feels like one though, doesn't it, Granny? It feels a little bit. >> Well, Sorsby was a breaking point. So, and I remember I was on your show the. day the Brendan Sorsby news broke and.

you asked me about it and I hadn't. really had a lot of time to think about. it and I I I went on TV the next day and. I said I sort of regretted my response. here because it wasn't forceful enough. I I hadn't had enough time to sort of. think it through. >> Hey, we apologize for putting you in. that spot. It seems. >> 30 of your career. We almost ruined it. >> Happened halfway through spot. >> Okay. >> That's not what I meant, but I just. didn't know it was even going on until I. heard you talking about it. And so, you. know what it's like. You you you offer. your first thought on something and then.

you have a little more time to think. about it and you realize, damn it, why. the hell didn't I say this? Gambling is. something entirely different from. eligibility. So, gambling is a whole. separate problem. And with the enormous. rise in popularity and significance of. gambling in America, that's something I. fully understand why the teams, the. conferences, the leagues, and everybody. else need to be as completely steadfast. in as they can. This is something. entirely different. There are a million. shades of gray to this. So, let's say a. guy goes and he spends a couple of weeks.

in a training camp. Or let's look at a. guy who makes it into the G-League and. doesn't make it any further than that in. the NBA. We have a guy um who was coming. back to play also at LSU who was a great. player at St. John's, played in some NBA. preseason games, didn't make it to the. league. He can make more money by going. back to school. The I don't think anyone. is um yes, there will be uh some victims. in this to the point that AJ just made. Someone has to lose a spot in order for. someone else to gain a spot, but that.

happens in a lot of different ways. So. to me, this is vastly different from. Sorsby. eligibility is a is a different. question and I'm not 100% sure that when. push comes to shove they won't make some. sort of ruling. There won't be some sort. of rule in which players can go a. certain distance into finding out. whether or not they are ready to be pros. before they go back to college. >> The whole getting paid in college thing. changes the entire amateurism thing. You. know, because you used to ask the NCAA. why you couldn't do something. Hey, why.

can't this guy buy me 10 jack and diets? Okay, cuz amateurism that's a word you. made up. You can't. Yeah. Yeah, we did. And it's the reason. Hey, why can't I uh. get a car? I just did some stuff over. here. I want to get a car. Amateurism. It'll ruin your amateur status. You guys. made that word up again. Remember that's. a word that you made up as an excuse. It's like, yeah, welcome to the NCAA. world. That used to be the answer for. everything. Now, because everybody's. like kind of professional. I I don't. know. It It's Which once again, I think. the commissioners saw this as an.

opportunity because they saw how. everybody has responded to it pretty. much. I think they saw this as an. opportunity to be like, "All right, we. can be the ones that kind of maybe have. to regulate this entire thing." We'll. see how it goes. Let's pivot to the NFL. because obviously we are right around. the corner. Your team, man, I don't. know. I'm not hearing much. Uh, go. ahead, AJ. >> Yeah, Green. I don't know if that's a. good or a bad thing. I think you guys. might be laying under the radar. You. know, you're New York football Jets, obviously. What's your thoughts for. Aaron Glenn, Gino Smith this year. heading into the season? We know it kind. of uh it can be a roller coaster of.

emotions for you sometimes as a Jets. fan. Yeah. He thought about cut, didn't. he think about cutting his uh. >> He said he might cut his meat off. Yeah. Back in the day if they won it off. >> It It was a toe. Um there was a toe. game. >> There was a toe game. I was willing to. sacrifice a toe. Um I've rethought that, but I have very few appendages left at. this stage of my life that are really of. that much value to me. Um the Jets have. not made the playoffs in 15 years. I. know I'm not telling you anything you. don't know, but maybe there's someone.

listening to this conversation who who. does not realize that. I want you to. conceptualize that. Think of all the. things that have happened in 15 years. The Jets have not made the playoffs a. single time. It is the longest streak in. any of the four major sports. So, incremental progress, I think, is what. we have to be looking for here. Here's. the best thing I can think of to tell. you about the Jets. I think the Jets. have a lot more good players than most. fans out there realize because by the.

end of last season, they were absolutely. tanking. People talk about NFL teams not. tanking. NFL teams absolutely tank. They. traded away their two best defensive. players and they started the worst. quarterback on their roster for the last. four or five games to make sure they did. not win. And they were during those. games by far the worst team in the. league. They aren't that bad. They have. a bunch of good players on that team. And Dan Olowski said it the other day on. Get Up, and I agree with him. The Jets. have a chance to have a good enough. year, and I don't even know if you.

measure that in wins and losses. They're. certainly not going to be a a a. contender this year. They have Buffalo. and New England in their division who. are way better than they are. But I. think the Jets could make themselves a. pretty attractive place for whatever. quarterback it is next year. >> that is looking for a spot. Whether that. is someone that they draft like Arch. Manning or Dante Moore or whoever it is. or if the free agent shakes loose Allah. Aaron Rogers once upon a time and they. actually traded for Rogers but you know. what I mean. Some veteran who is looking.

for a new spot maybe the Jets decide to. go that way. I think they could be a. year away from being something of some. consequence. In order to get there, they. have to be good this year. Not great, but good. And I think they have a chance. at that. >> Baker Mayfield, fun conversation. I I. mean, obviously, who knows how it works. out with him in uh Tampa Bay. And I. couldn't even fathom a 15-year playoff. draft. Now, granted, I'm in the middle. of it with the Colts. We're close. >> Uh we we have not won a AFC South in 12. years now at this point. But I couldn't.

imagine being on microphone for 30. years, okay? talking about sports, talking about the NFL, and having your. team put up these types of numbers. So, I don't know if you know this, we looked. this up. Overall record during your. tenure of having to speak to the world. about sports, 206 and 279. That's a lot. of L's. That's a lot of times getting on. camera saying, "Look, the Jets aren't. going to win a Super Bowl." But the NFL, a lot of that, you know, a lot of that. type of stuff. 11 head coaches over that. span, 30 years. 29 starting. quarterbacks, 30 years. >> 15 obviously, he just talked about the. playoff drought. And then you look right.

there at the end. It's been beautiful. Zero Super Bowl appearances. Now, Rex. Ryan did have four playoff wins, I. believe, where there was also good times. and great Hard Knocks seasons. So, that. was probably the best time to be alive. for you. But, the Jets have not really. delivered for you as a man in front of a. microphone in some time. Maybe this year. with Frank Reich as the offensive. coordinator and Gino Smith slicing and. dying in the last preseason game and. Aaron Glenn keeping the information. tight about the draft and not leaking. that out. Nobody knew who the hell the. Jets were going to pick. Maybe this is.

the year that the Jets turn it around. for you for your next 30 years. Greeny, >> I would absolutely love that. Look, you. look at all the different ways that. they've tried the the jersey that I'm. wearing there. I'm not sure. Maybe we we. I think that's an Aaron Rogers jersey. >> Yeah, it's an eight. We changed it to a. zero. Yeah, >> you guys did a very good job. >> A baby dirty. Good work, Dirty on the. thing. But on that note, eight Super. Bowl appearances. Yeah, right. You would. have never, you know what I mean? Zero. is the number. Yeah, but. >> the Jets look I mean look at the. different things that they've tried just. in the last few years. They drafted Zack.

Wilson second overall. They drafted Sam. Darnold third overall and they traded. for maybe the best quarterback of his. generation and Aaron Rodgers and nothing. has worked. That has been the really. frustrating part. They just can't get. the quarterback thing right for whatever. reason. So Gino Smith hopefully holds. down the fort, plays decent enough to. make the Jets an attractive place for. whoever it is that might come in next. year and be their quarterback. All. right, I love it. Let's go to the other. team, shall we? In New Jersey. Go ahead, >> Deb. Make it worse. You had to watch the.

Giants win a couple Super Bowl titles, beating the EV evil empire. But, uh, what's your thoughts on the Giants this. year? First year with Harbaugh, second. year with Jackson Dart. All accounts. look like Malik Neighbors will be. healthy. What's your thoughts with the. Giants going this year? >> I I think they have a chance to be good. I think they play in a really good. division. I think the Cowboys are going. to be way better. Um, I think their. defense has a chance to really make a. jump. And the Eagles have been the class. of the division and and one of the class. teams of the of the league for a long. time. So the Giants, here's the thing.

about the Giants. They and I wish I had. the number in front of me. Hebo would. have it. Maybe you guys know it. I. believe they lost four games in which. they had doubledigit leads in the fourth. quarter last year, which was. unprecedented in NFL history. They were. a team that wasn't nearly as bad as. their record for most of their year. Um, and they did that with a significant. injury to Malik Neighbors right at the. very beginning. They did that while. Jackson Dart was a rookie and was. learning on the fly. And then they did.

it with obviously much less experienced. and probably competent coaching than. they should have this year. So, I think. I'm one who thinks the Giants have a. chance to be pretty good. They got a ton. of pass rushers. Um, I I love Cam Scaboo. if he's able to stay healthy. There's. nothing about that kid not to love. And. I believe in Dart. I think he has a. chance to be a really good player. So, I. think the Giants have a chance if. everything goes their way to be like a. fringe playoff team this year. The NFC. is loaded with the Rams obviously being.

a super team. And I just mentioned the. Eagles and Cowboys in their division, but I think the Giants have a team to be. a chance to be a team that's playing. meaningful games in December, which for. them would be an enormous step in the. right direction. >> Let's stay healthy. >> And how about today is the day where it. actually Let's Let's do Universe Ball. real quick. Okay, I'm happy you're here. for this cuz you are a uh football. sports lord of sorts. Okay. Even though. you would not decide that this uh flag. football championship football, which.

might be. >> the best have a catch ball. I mean, it's. you could kick this thing if you had to. The sizing is perfect. If you got baby. little carne hands, you could still grip. this thing and kind of throw. You know, this is this is good ball. universe will. tell us if this ball goes in that hoop. right there. No more injuries rest of. the NFL season. To anybody, Greeny, to. anybody, Greeny, no more injuries at. all. Do you have anything to say before. this ball gets tossed in the universe? >> Please make this shot. >> Well, it's not about me, Greeny. Once. again, this is the universe doing this.

with this ball. It's not me. >> Oh, cond. >> Well, I I don't have a lot of faith in. the universe when it comes to this, having watched the sport a really long. time, but I'm hoping I'm hoping as best. I can. Come on, universe. >> Yeah. Oh my god. >> Oh, it was close. It was even close. >> I ruined What does that mean? >> I ruined the season. >> I mean, it's not good. >> I ruined the season is what I mean. So, people are already saying I'm ruining. sports. I can't believe I just ru It was. the universe. Remember, it was not me.

It was the universe. Okay, let's talk. We're going to have to do that again. >> Way to go, man. >> I'm so sorry. The the hoop got smaller. out of nowhere. >> They should cancel all practices the. rest of the day. >> No, they're here. >> Son of a [ __ ]. >> No. Okay, HOLD ON. YOU SCREWED US, DUDE. YOU SCREWED US. >> NO, I DIDN'T. I DIDN'T MEAN TO, THOUGH. IT WASN'T ME, REMEMBER? It wasn't me. It. was the uh. >> the universe put a few more balls down. there. >> Yeah. Yep. >> They weren't down there five seconds. ago. >> No, they weren't actually. >> Set. >> Oh, that was good. >> Good line.

>> Bully. >> Oh, the universe normally works in. threes. >> I was going to say that is a. >> Okay, that was actually that was that. wasn't about that. The universe said it. wasn't about it was like, "Hey, if if. that ball goes in, talk about something. good. If that ball doesn't go in, talk. about something bad." Connor has a. question for you, Granny. Thank you, Universe. >> Yeah, Granny. Junior Ian Rapaort said. like, "Hey, it is impossible for the. Falcons to start Tua at quarterback. right now, which some people thought was. a little egregious, but also hard to.

argue." And then he also mentioned that. the doors pretty much open for a Michael. Penn Jr. to go out and just kind of. steal that job, take that job from Tua. for Atlanta. What What do you think. about Atlanta right now? Do you have any. expectation for him? Do you think. they'll kind of maybe fall off a cliff? It's Stfansk's first year. What are you. thinking about the Atlanta Falcons? And. who do you kind of see taking over as. that starter, maybe even long term for. Atlanta? >> Well, I think their long-term. quarterback answer is probably not in.

the building. And that's it's a real. shame because they have so many good. players. They have Bejian Robinson who. is as certainly as much fun to watch as. any player in the league. And people who. know a lot more about the sport than I. do will argue he might actually be the. best football player in the NFL. And. they've got London and they've got Pitts. and they've got all these other guys. Um. and they just haven't been able to get. the quarterback thing right. I don't. know that I would say Tua can't possibly. start a game for them, but I would say. if you had a any better option, he.

shouldn't. And I just don't know that. Michael Pennix is going to be a. long-term option. Look, the injury. history on him, and you guys don't need. me to tell you that, and obviously being. there where you are, you saw him at. Indiana. He's so talented, but the. history of injuries, when guys are as. hurt as he always was in college, the. idea that you're going to get him for 17. games, much less five or six years of. healthy play, I think feels incredibly. unlikely. That was a pick that stunned. me when they made it. Now you're seeing.

why. I'd love to see him healthy because. if somehow he stayed healthy, then I. think the Falcons could be a really. interesting team. But it would it would. pleasantly but very much surprise me if. he's able to. I think they're one of the. teams that'll be looking at quarterbacks. in next year's draft. >> It's being reported that Tua will start. the final preseason game against the. Miami Dolphins on Friday night. You know. what that means? That means Cooper Kush. is coming in. Okay, if Pennix isn't. Cooper Kush is going to be coming in. there and then Jack Strand probably gets.

uh maybe the fourth quarter. Yeah, nobody's talking about Jack Strand. Okay, we seen this guy. He spiked the. ball into our area. My daughter had to. hand it back to the ref because of how. powerful his spike was after he scored a. touchdown against the Indianapolis. Colts. He is 6'5. He's thrown for like. 3,000 yards or something like that at uh. Minnesota State Morehead. I think he. wants to be an astronaut like an I think. that is what he's looking to do and he. could spin it. This guy can spin it now. Will he be the starting quarterback for.

the Atlanta Falcons? Maybe Yukon. >> No, that we're not doing it. No, >> if he doesn't make it, baby. Hey, come. on, Coach Kendall. >> Hold on. Get him. >> See, Drainy, THIS IS WHAT YOU'RE. TALKING. THIS IS NOT IN the conference. though. That's what we want. Can they do. it? >> Us Notre Dame. >> No, Notre Dame already said they will. Uh, they're aligned, >> but you can do whatever they want. They're in their own comp. They don't. have They're independent. Kind of a fart. in the wind though, right? If it's. Yukon, I mean, they could take Aaron. Donald and it really, who cares? >> He could play quarterback and. >> Yeah. What's the point? >> How do you How do you feel about that?

You talked about. >> You guys You guys had that You guys had. that haunted hotel or something up. there. I remember a couple years ago. >> Get out. They probably follow him. >> Yeah. The haunt the ghost. >> Yeah. Level up to Colorado State. >> Seems like they're down there. Okay, let's talk about Ghost. um offensive. lineman had been seeing ghost since this. guy from Penn Hills uh got into the NFL. He's a monster, an animal. He's been out. of football for two years. His words. were like, "Got to see if I have that. fire again." And then all we've seen is.

uh workouts where it appears as if he. might be faster than he was before. So, is he more healthy, more rested? Should. we expect Aaron Donner when he comes. back to the Rams, which we all kind of. assume he will be doing in a matter of. time? What do you expectations for him? And what about Miles Garrett being next. to him for the first time in his career. getting an opportunity to be the. Avengers actually on the defensive side. with two defensive MVPs? >> Here's what I think of that. My son played AAU basketball for a very. very long time on teams that that never.

had any players who were going to wind. up playing division one college or going. to the NBA. I watched in my life a lot. of games that I knew in the layup line. should not be played. Right. We're in. the layup line. We got a bunch of 12y. olds on this side. On the other side, these guys are doing reverse dunks in. the layup line. And I'm like, guys, why. are we doing this? Like, why why even. start? They have to call off the press. when it's a 20point lead. Like, these.

are That's what lining up Miles Garrett. and Aaron Donald next to each other is. like. If you put Reggie White and Joe. Green next to each other on a defensive. line, the opposition would have just. quit. And that is what we're looking at. right here. If they are healthy, if the. Rams I mean, you just, you know, as you. just the universe just reminded us um. with our with our football toss there. I. mean, injuries are always the great. equalizer and everything. So, the Rams, if they are beset by injury, then like.

any other team, they become very mortal. But if Donald Garrett and Stafford are. all healthy and then some combination of. Nua and Dvonte Adams and all their other. good players, as long as they are not. completely devastated by injury, they're. as prohibitive a favorite as I can. remember in the NFL in a really long. time. What's the last time we had a team. that before the season started, you said. if they stay healthy, they had a they. were they were superior to this, their.

chances were better than what you would. say the Rams are right now. I'm not sure. what team we'd have to go back to. >> Okay, so the 2023 Chiefs had the same. odds uh to win the title at plus 600. I. I believe that is where the Rams are. right now. That's absurd. Obviously, there's 32 teams that that should be. thousand that that everybody should be. up near there. So plus 600 whenever. you're talking about an entire field of. NFL teams to win the title before it. even starts is an absurd favorite. Like. it is that because of the amount of. money that's being bet on the Rams so.

the sports books are just going to catch. up because obviously they want money on. both sides of this entire thing or is it. because they view the team to be as dumb. as they could ever be just like the 2023. Chiefs. And I think it's that one. I I. don't think it's trying to catch up to. the money. I think it's seeing what. we're all seeing. Like Greenie, you you. hit the nail on the head there whenever. you talk about Reggie White and Mean Joe. Green. It's like how do you get a first. down on these guys? Because it's not. just in the front end. The back end they. loaded up too. It's like if they're not. going to get to the quarterback or stop. the run immediately. Back end's got dogs. everywhere as well. That's just the.

defensive side. Let alone Maddie and. Hookah and everybody they got on the. offensive side. I assume the pressure is. crazy. Uh whenever you have that good of. a roster because obviously you're. expected to win, but they've been living. like that since they won a title. anyways. It feels like they're all made. for the LA Lights with another Super. Bowl back. >> Yeah. We always talk about when you look. at these teams or these organizations, ownership, head coach, quarterback, and. they got stability there. They got the. reigning MVP there. And then you go to. the other side of the ball, you have the. reigning defensive player of the year. I. mean, this is for me with or without.

Aaron Donald. Obviously, Aaron Donald. moves the needle, but you still have a. very, very talented defensive front. Then you went and got Jaylen Watson and. Trent McDuffy from the Chiefs who. already have McDuffy a couple titles. under his belt. So, not only his. experience on the field, but in that. locker room is going to be great, man. And so yeah, everything if they stay. healthy going into the season like you. said the 23 Chiefs probably the 07. Patriots when you had Moss and Walker. and all those guys like but yeah they. they should be as do but you still got. to play the games. You still have the. reigning defending champs Seattle.

Seahawks who we're getting a closer look. with the Hard Knocks and they got a lot. of those things in place as well. So I. mean we'll see. >> I love this Hard Knock season. It feels. like I'm learning about maybe a coach. that could go down as a great of all. time in McDonald with how quickly he won. a Super Bowl with how young he is and. seemingly his future over there with. Schneider as the GM who might go down as. one of the greats of all time. Hard. knocks do anything for you? Does hard. cuz we're watching Seattle and I'm. loving it. I'm watching McDonald talk to. his his leadership council which is like. 15 people. That's a lot of people in. there. There's a lot of people in that.

leadership council. him reaching. directly in kind of the locker room, monitoring the locker room, the. practice, the way he gets on people's. ass, like he gets on people's ass, his. theories, the way he brings in other. coaches. Like, I love watching this guy. That's what I'm getting from Hard. Knocks. For you, 30 years in this entire. thing, Hardnox's had its run. Now, it. seems like it might be back because the. Super Bowl champs are how do you view. how do you watch that? And what are your. thoughts on what's happening in Seattle? >> I love it. I Seattle I think obviously. is if anyone out there right now feels. like they could challenge the Rams at.

their best. They're probably the closest. thing to it. That defense is that level. of good. I think Houston's defense is. that level of good as well. But you look. at the offensive firepower that the Rams. have and and neither Houston nor Seattle. can can touch it. Um here's what I think. is the most uh genius thing about so you. guys who played I think have a totally. different view it because you you've. lived this all these things seem. relatively familiar to you and so you're. seeing how this team goes about it for. people like me before I got to ESPN so.

30 plus years ago I worked in the local. media I worked in Chicago and I covered. the Chicago Bears and there are very. specific times where we were allowed as. reporters to go into the locker room. during the week there was an hour on a. Wednesday and an hour on a Thursday and. they would bring the coach out and the. quarterback and a few players out for. specific press conferences and we could. watch a little bit of practice but not. all of it. And I think reporters like me. always were dying to know what is it. like when we're not there? What do they. talk about when we're not there? What.

does it feel like when we're not there? What does it look like when we're not. there? And I'm sure they are cognizant. of the cameras being around. So, this. probably isn't fully authentic, but it's. so much closer than anything that. someone like me would ever have had the. opportunity to see. So, I've always. loved it. Some teams are more. entertaining than others. You pointed it. out. The Rex Ryan Jets were definitely. the most fun team because Rex, just as. is the case now, didn't give a damn what. he said. Um, so they were the most fun. team to watch, but I find it all. fascinating because there's so much in.

it that I would otherwise never get a. chance to see. Yeah, I uh I really like. this season more so than maybe a couple. past training camp seasons. That. offseason one with the Giants, the. greatest. I I mean, terrible for the. Giants. >> Yeah. Not great. >> Yeah. Never going to get approved again. by any team because of it. But boy, for. us, that was spectacular cuz we've never. seen that side. So, just like you were. talking about with the players, it's. like we hear about what the. conversations are. We we can guess with. what the conversations are, but actually. being in there where you got a GM asking.

his kids, "What would you do?" You know, if you're in this thing, it's like, "Okay, we do got humans out here." You. know, >> they're coming in. >> I will not be able to sleep if this guy. ends up on the Philadelphia Eagles. I'm. just telling you, this guy's got to be. our most popular guy. Oh my god. Worst. case scenario, my life is over if this happens. And. then literally MVP Super Bowl. >> Yeah. Lo and behold, >> for the Eagles right there. I mean, that's why a team will never do it. again. Never ever do it again. But I. like whenever we get this [ __ ] It feels.

like it's getting good. Okay, let's. pivot from, you know, Hard Knocks and. you just mentioned the Chicago Bears. there getting a chance to be a reporter. in there. That feels like a team that's. going to have a lot of news coming out. of it this year and for the foreseeable. future. Go ahead, Tone. >> Yeah, Greenie. What are your thoughts on. the relationship between Ben Johnson and. Caleb? Because obviously they take Caleb. one overall. He's he's been good. Uh. he's he's he's been a great playmaker, but it still feels like Ben Johnson is. not afraid to criticize him and. criticize how he plays within Ben. Johnson's offense. What do you think. about that relationship and their future.

together? >> All right. I've been workshopping this. take. I'm dying to hear what YOU GUYS. THINK. >> OH, YES. THIS THE FIRST TIME? THIS THE. FIRST TIME? >> YES. >> SO, I've used it in and like um you. know, like guys will use it on the road. and then they go on the Tonight Show and. they actually get to finally I've used. it in some other you know media. Uh, but. now here we are. We are on the big time. and I'm going to. >> Hey, good luck, kid. Good luck, kid. >> Let's see how this thing plays. >> The history of football is defined more. than anything by the great quarterback.

coach combinations. Right? If you look. at the best teams in history, you go. back to Lombardi and Bart Star and Terry. Bradshaw and Chuck Null. Then into the. 80s where you had Jimmy Johnson and Troy. Aman and that excuse me, the 80s was uh. was Joe Montana and Bill Walsh. the 90s. was Jimmy Johnson and Troy Aikman which. should have lasted longer and then you. get to Bellichic and Brady and Reed and. Mahomes the these are the greatest teams. in NFL history. So if you're going to. place a bet on any combination right now.

to become the next one in that line, if. you're going to take any young. quarterback and coach combination and. say I could see them becoming that. they're that good. I love the coach that. much and I love the player that much. I. think this is where I would put my. money. I think Ben Johnson is brilliant. Now, I have been hearing that from Rex. for a very long time. I think you guys. may know Rex's son was an offensive. coach on the Lions for many years. So,

he has been Rex has been hearing about. and thus telling me about Ben Johnson. since before the whole world caught on. to Ben Johnson. I think he's. magnificent. I love everything about his. attitude. He takes the job and. immediately calls out the Green Bay. Packers. This year when the world is. projecting that they're a candidate to. regress, he's up there talking about. breaking the all-time scoring record. I've never seen a team run the ball as. creatively and effectively as they did a. year ago. And then you combine him with. Caleb, who I think has the gifts of just.

about any quarterback I've ever seen. I'm not sure I've ever seen a. quarterback who is just more naturally. gifted. He's certainly on that on the. the very highest possible level of that. and he's a young man who seems to get. it. I've never met him in my entire. life, but he seems well he kind of. marches to the beat of his own drum. I. actually think he kind of gets it. So, if you're going to look at the young. quarterback coach combinations in the. league now, there are a lot of them. because there are a lot of good young. quarterbacks. I think if I had to bet on. one to become the next great duo, I.

think this is who I would bet. I would. bet on Ben Johnson and Caleb Williams. What do you think of that take? a pretty. good take, especially because you had. the timeline, you know, all the way back. to the 70s that legitimizes your. conversation immediately. So, I think. the setup was good. I think the punch. was good. I think the transition from. that to there was also fantastic and. certainly agreeable uh take. But on that. note, Joe Burrow and Zack Taylor, right? Do they consider us like a next group? They've already been to a Super Bowl, these two. >> Zack doesn't even want to throw his.

flag. >> He might get fired. >> Yeah, but they're in a Super Bowl. already together. Would they not count. together. >> going into year eight? >> How young are we talking? >> I don't know. That's what I'm wondering. Granny, we got to we got to qualify. >> Herz's been in two Super Bowls. >> McAfee, if you owned an NFL team, which. candidly someday you might. Um, and I. gave you right now the option of Ben. Johnson or Zack Taylor to coach it. Which one of them would you take? >> Okay. What is that all about? There's no. reason. It's not about me.

>> I don't have the question. That's a good. take. >> Yeah, I don't have uh Joe Burrow as my. quarterback. You know, now that's a. question, I guess. What young. quarterback would you draft? McDaniels, Drake May, there's another one. Maybe. >> Drake May. I mean, for sure him and. Vable and even with, you know, how loud. it's been. I mean, if they start out the. season four, five-0, six and two, all. that will be quiet. I think Shawn. Payeyton, Bo Knicks have a pretty good. argument, too. >> Honestly, there's a couple around there, which is why the league is in such a. good spot because we have so many good. quarterbacks. It does feel like younger.

quarterbacks playing better now than. they ever have in the past. I think you. would be able to state that clearer than. anybody else. >> Demo CJ Stroud you could argue too. defense. >> A lot of people are out on Stout, but he. already has three. He's one in every. year. >> He was saying quarterback people though. I think right you were talking. quarterback head coach. >> Oh okay. Okay. like Serriiani Herz uh. Herbert Harball. >> like if you were just that's why I think. Drake and Vrabel probably would be the. one just because what Drake's already. done cuz like McDaniel let's say they.

have another great year and McDaniel. ends up getting a McDaniel excuse me. gets like a head coach opportunity and. doesn't leave maybe after this year but. leaves the year after like at this point. with Drake M feels like we're already. pretty comfortable and like how smart he. is and how good he is that an OC leave. him wouldn't be the worst thing ever. >> and Lamar do we count Lamar whoever. Lamar is with. >> anyone could be right. >> Monking and Watson. >> I like your take, Granny. Listen to what. we just did here. This is what you've. been doing for 30 years. Doing pretty. good, Granny. Hey, >> we're just stirring the pot. That's all.

we're here to do. We're just stirring. the pot. We're coming up with takes. I've been working on that one for a. little while. I'm delighted with the way. that it landed. >> Okay. I'm happy you liked it as well. We. loved it. You liked it. Okay, let's. pivot off of football. Who's winning the. Super Bowl right now? August 26. I don't. need a big take. Just who's winning the. Super Bowl? >> I mean, it's too easy to say the Rams. There's no. >> plus 550. Hold on. It got even better. >> I'm sorry. Plus 550. Now it's better. than what the Chiefs I believe were in. 2023. Now shortest odds in the. >> reality is it's very hard to look at any. team and say they're as good as the.

Rams. So what you're betting on if. you're betting if you're not picking. them is something bad happening to them. If there's a team out there that I think. is greatly undervalued on that board, it's Denver. I remain very surprised at. at at how little attention the Broncos. are getting. That is a team that with no. disrespect intended to the Patriots, um. that's a team that absolutely would have. been in the Super Bowl last year if Bo. Knicks hadn't gotten hurt in that the. very end of that game against Buffalo. He played great in that game against.

Josh Allen. And and I think he they they. were at home. They wound up playing that. game with a quarterback who just had no. chance. And then weather came in unlike. anything I've ever seen in my entire. life. That's a team that's defense is. totally legit. Maybe not quite on the. level of the Texans or the Rams, but not. that far behind. And they've got they. added Jaylen Wadd and they've got the. coach who's been there and done that. I'm very surprised at how little. attention Denver is getting. >> Brand new facility, too. They're they're.

walking into a beautiful, beautiful. place every day they go to work, let. alone the city of Denver. Everybody. obviously sings its praises. So, I said, you know, the Rams plus 550, you know, shorter than the 2023 Chiefs. Certainly. not short odds of all time. 1994, San. Francisco 49ers. This might be a Hembo. trivia question at some point. Uh, their. odds, I believe, were plus 200. >> Yeah. The year after that, the Cowboys. were plus 300. >> Jerry Rice, Steve Prime was on that team. as well. EMTT, >> I mean, that was back whenever Sports.

Gambling was also like, hey, uh, I'm. giving you plus 200, plus 250 on this, uh, for that entire thing. So, there has. been odds on favorites from the. beginning. It was probably also back. when there was about four quarterbacks. instead of, you know, 10 12 quarterbacks. in 94. >> You're talking about the quarterback. club. >> Yeah. Who? >> There was six of them. Have some. respect. >> Just in the NFC, you got, you know, Steve Young, Aman, Favre. I mean, there's three right there. >> All right. Let's go to the other side. now. >> Marino. Marino. >> Sorry. Sorry. Green was actually there.

Hold on. Let's do. >> celebrating 30 years of Green. They. played San Diego in the Super Bowl that. year and I think that was the least. competitive sporting event I've ever. attended in my entire life. My son's my. son's AAOU team that played against a. bunch of kids who wound up in the NBA. had a better chance of winning than say. I think the score someone could look I. think the score was 21 nothing at the. quarter. It might have been 28- nothing. at the quarter. They had Ricky Waters, Jerry Rice running wild. That was the.

Steve Young got the monkey off his back. game. They obliterated them. That was at. a time when the Cowboys and 49ers just. owned the NFL. It was it was the year. that Jimmy Johnson had left the first. year after the Cowboys had won the. previous two Super Bowls. Um and and. then Jimmy Johnson left unceremoniously. as everybody knows. And that's where the. Niners got in there and they they. destroyed everything in their path. That. team did have Dion. They they were as. good as any team you'll ever see. 49-26.

they win that particular Super Bowl. I. assume there are some trash time scores. You talk about the Niners and the. Cowboys obviously running rough shot. during that period of time. Obviously. their fan base has still showcased that. entire generations obviously got to. experience that dominance and became. massive fans of them. Are the Niners. looking to move because that substation. are they going to Ohio? >> I mean they got a lot of distraction. there. Are the Niners looking to move to. Ohio right now to get away from that. substation? Is that what's happened? Nobody. >> scout out some land. Murman's scouting. some practice facility. I mean, maybe. might be able to purch.

140s, I think, is what they're calling. them. >> Oh, no. 49ers. >> 160, I think. 160. >> No, it might have been 159ers. We're not. 100% sure what all it is, but are the. Niners moving out of Santa Clara to. Ohio? That That would kind of change. some things. Scout and land. I don't. know. >> Nobody talks about that. >> I'd be smarter. >> Happy. >> I have nothing to say whatsoever. I'm. just enjoying the conversation. Happy 30. years at ESPN, Greeny. Happy 30 years.

>> Thank you. Hey, let me say something. Two very quick things if if this is you. letting me go. >> No, no, we got to ask you about baseball. real quick before we Let's go. Go ahead. >> Yeah, Greeny. I did just want to ask and. I don't know why no one's talking about. this. It's probably because the NFL. season is right around the corner. But. what's your take on the whole Mark. Walter situation? Because Jet Pass's. been getting [ __ ] killed online. because he basically said, "Hey, anyone. could have done this." He said this a. while ago and then like yesterday. basically said, "Oh, wait. They actually. do have a massive tax loophole that. gives them a huge advantage over every. other team. And now we're basically.

staring down a work stoppage because. this cheating, lying, fraudulent scumbag. who I hate saying it cuz he's from Iowa. He's an Iowa guy. Uh Mark Walter. essentially just destroyed baseball. Like what? Why is no one talking about. this? And is that essentially what's. going to happen? Like they're going to. have to blow up this whole thing, right? The Dodgers can't keep doing this. because they just [ __ ] cheated for. the last five years and now we are we're. not going to have a baseball season next. year. >> They they have an amount of money at. their disposal that no other team does.

is is what you're referring to. So Mark. Walter is someone that I don't I. wouldn't say I know him. I have met him. He is not only is he from Iowa, but he. is a Northwestern alum and he is the one. of the two or three biggest benefactors. of the Northwestern athletics program. If people made a very big deal when we. built our new football workout facility, Pat, I'm not sure if you've ever been. there to see it. Um, but people were. saying it was literally the nicest. facility that any school had in the. whole country. It is called the Walter.

Sports uh facility. Um, so he's he's a. an enormously important person at. Northwestern. That's neither here nor. there for the purposes of this. conversation, except that I have been. aware of him a lot longer than most. people have. He was a person who flew. very under the radar. I can't pretend I. know anything about the situation that. he is in. But what is pretty clear is. that he needs a a ton of money, right? He needs to liquidate pretty much. everything. He's sold the Lakers. From.

what I understand, he's going to wind up. selling Chelsea and and um and probably. the Dodgers as well, even though he has. said he's not going to. Um it's an. interesting question as far as what. impact that has had on the sport. They. they have backloaded all of these. contracts, right? That's another piece. of all of this. Like show Otani's money. isn't he's not getting all that for you. They got a bunch of Benia deals. Deferred payments. Deferred payments. Deferred payments. >> But way more. Like Bobia. Bobby Benia. gets like a million dollar once a year.

Like show Otani is going to be getting. like $30 million. um you know every year starting 20. something years from now when he's no. longer paying California state taxes. I. don't know what's going to become of. that whole situation. I think it has. made everyone in the world root against. them. And especially when you consider. that their biggest competition is the. team that has every built-in. disadvantage, meaning the Milwaukee. Brewers, who right now by one game have. the best record in Major League. Baseball. Um, I think there are a lot of. people who feel, as you do, I wish I.

could tell you exactly where it's going. to go from here. I've heard exactly what. you've heard, which is that work. stoppage feels almost unavoidable at. this point. I covered the last time. there was one. I was there in '94 when. they called off the season. I was at. spring training in '95 because Michael. Jordan was there with the White Sox when. they had all these replacement players. there. They had guys literally off. construction sites and stuff like that. who were at spring training in Sarasota, which is where the White Sox used to. work out. It was horrific. I mean, everything about that whole ordeal was.

horrific. And then of all things, a. judge, this is a a I think a little. remembered part of the story, a judge. wound up ruling with the players and. ending all of that. That judge was named. Sonia Sotomayor, who was now on the. Supreme Court of the United States. Um, at that time, she was just known as the. judge who saved baseball. But if I. really hope we're not heading in that. direction again, but that does feel like. the way it's going. >> That's Mike Greenberg, Greeny, icon, legend, a man that we're very grateful. for. We continue digitally as I believe.

Little League World Series continues. from here. Goodbye. See, that was a hard. out, Granny. You knew what that was. Thank you for knowing that. Okay, because. >> still bringing it. >> There's maybe one last week where. >> we we we we were. >> we we didn't know, you know, we didn't. know that there was going to be a an. abrupt stop to something else or we. would have maybe taken a hand off a. little differently. You know, TV hard. out stuff. You are a consmate pro right. there. Unbelievable work. Thank you for.

doing that and making us all better, brother. And on the baseball front, what if this causes no work stoppage? What if because of all this, there's. actually an agreement that's able to be. put in? >> Well, there's not going to players are. never going to agree to do a salary cap. So, there will be a work stoppage. That's never going to happen in a. billion years ever. >> You can't be the generation to do it? No. >> Yeah. >> So, the whole season's going to be gone. or could it only be half? Maybe. >> forever, dude. I mean, it could be, but. >> the sport. >> we might never see. Oh, banana ball. Thank you, >> Savannah. Bananas.

>> Thank you for the bananas. >> Savannah Jesse Cole is the guy who's got. baseball for us. Thank you, Jesse Cole. >> Not the MLS. Thank you, Jess. >> No, we don't. >> MLS not in the spring anymore. They move. to the winter during football. So, next. spring, Savannah Bananas. Okay. That's. what we're watching. And you're going to. like it cuz it's baseball. Aaron Judge. is going to be playing for the [ __ ]. Wild Things. >> No, he's a clown through and through. What's it? Oh, he's Indianapolis. >> They're saying Schwarbo potentially.

taking some big hats for the banana. They're going to call him big banana. next year. Paul skins. >> Paul Skenos. >> Sergeant Clown. >> He's pitching for [ __ ] second base. now. He's got the juice back. >> You better lose that gut because you. know you got to I think you have to. pitch without your jersey on with your. your titties. >> No, he's not. >> That is not an Everybody has their own. gimmick. Okay. A lot of them have the shirtless. gimmick. >> Paul's gimmick will be he'll pitch from. second base cuz he's got a juice back. Do you know that? >> I hope so. That's just what Skins needs,

too. You know, he's kind of starting to. find it again. That's a great idea. Let's stop the season. You know, Sk. might never play again. >> What? >> If we don't have a season, >> he's going to play for the bananas. Jesse Cole's got a one-way ticket. >> I'm not Yeah, I'm not sleeping on Skad. heading over to some sort of war going. on just to serve. >> You're right. I guess we can't put that. past him. I mean, especially with the. way the World Baseball Classic was. going, it felt like he was kind of maybe. in a cockpit of a fight. >> Might be buzzing the tower in the. straight at home in 10 months.

>> Is that thing open? Did we know that. thing existed? I I don't know. Depends. on the day. >> Uh Greeny, we appreciate you, man. We. really appreciate you genuinely and. thank you for just uh going along with. our [ __ ] basically. >> Well, it's a pleasure. I'm so proud of. what all you guys are doing every single. day. And I'll leave you just with this. one thought. Um I don't know if you're a. fan of of the singer Kenny Chzn. >> Oh, yeah. But um he's someone that we. got to know many many many years ago on. Mike and Mike and I never grew up with. any country music or anything. I'm from. New York, so I didn't know anything.

about him, but I started listening to. his songs. And there's a song of his. that I particularly liked and still like. called Don't Blink. And I found myself. thinking about that song today. Um. because, you know, one day you're 29. years old and you walk into this. building and you're surrounded by. legends that you have looked up to what. feels like your entire life. turnaround. and Chris Berman and Dan Patrick and. Stuart Scott and Keith Alberman are all. working in the same trailer that I'm. working in, which is where we were. working out of when I got to ESPN 30.

years ago today. Um, and then you blink. and all of a sudden they're handing you. a little statue that says you've been. here 30 years. And if there's one word. of advice I would like to offer to. everybody um who is listening because I. know a lot of younger people are with. you guys every single day and and to you. in particular McAfee is try and remember. that while it's happening like try while. it's going on every now and again not. just to look at how much taller the.

mountain is that you want to climb but. look down at how far you've already. come. Um it doesn't mean that you're. going to quit. It doesn't mean that. you're satisfied. It doesn't mean that. you're less hungry. It just means that. every once in a while you really need to. stop and appreciate the things that are. happening in your life. Because if you. had told me 30 years ago today what my. life would be, I I don't even mean this. um figuratively, I would have wept. I. mean, I literally would have fallen to. the ground and cried that my life was.

going to turn out this way. And I don't. know that I've been as aware of that as. I wish I had every minute of it. So, those are my words of advice. Before. someone hands you a a a little trophy. and says, "Congratulations on 30 years,". make sure you enjoy the ride, cuz don't. blink. It goes by a lot faster than you. expected to. >> We love you, man. That was beautiful. >> And thank you for the reminder and. perspective. And thank you for the 30. years that it seems like you have kind. of been in uh locked in for all of us in.

your service to sport. And here's to the. next 30 years where you will, you know, not blink and enjoy the entire process. and we'll be lucky and thankful to be uh. in your uh uh little what are those. called? Those little uh when you're. under somebody's wing uh coattail maybe. >> We'll be uh little baby birds under your. wing for the next 30 years, brother. Uh. following in everything that you've done. for sport alongside the legends that you. mentioned and uh we appreciate you, man.

Thank you for everything. Yeah, it's a pleasure. Good to see you. guys. It's a lot of fun always. It's. Let's talk as the football season gets. started. Have a great day. >> You got it, ladies and gentlemen. >> Mike Greenberg. >> Y. speech. What are that's called? You put. them under a wing. Uh, is it co. >> I don't know what the hell you're. talking about. >> Take under the wing. You take somebody. under the wing. >> Yeah. Yeah. That's what I was saying. And then there's coattails that you. ride, right? >> So, is that that was all those together? >> That's what I was trying to tell him. though. I was trying to think you've.

kind of. >> I thought talking about like the frilly. things that like Macho Man wore on his. coat. >> Oh, tassels. I don't mind tassels. either. Yeah, you take us as your. tassels. >> We were his nipple tassels. >> Yeah, at certain times. Certainly have. been. But coail and wing. He takes us. under his wing with coattails. Yeah, we'll ride behind him. >> But. >> or raora. Isn't it called raora? The. little fish that rides in the back of. the shark. >> Sure. >> Yeah. >> Maybe. >> Yeah. >> Maybe a pilot fish, too. Raora. I'll. tell you what, if you pulled that name. out right there, >> Jimmy Buffet. It's in a Jimmy Buffet. song. That's why I know it.

>> Okay, let's hear it. >> I hope it's right. I don't I can't even. remember the whole song, but I remember. back in the day hearing it like what is. it? >> I think he does it in Cheeseburger in. Paradise actually. >> Really? >> Don't blink a banger. >> Don't blink. >> It is. >> Yeah. Kenny Ch. >> I thought I was going to say boys of. fall. Obviously, that's making it drown. >> I was like, "We are the [ __ ] boys of. fall." Say it, Granny. And then he went. a different way. But. >> I was planning on doing a fool. >> Yeah, I was pumped to be called the boys. of fall.

>> And then he gave like a real speech. >> Yeah, that was cool, too. >> I can't remember why. >> Sean Payton. Yeah, it was Shawn Peyton. >> Yeah, like AJ said, >> the common Ramora, also known as a shark. sucker, so I love that AJ obviously. knows what a shark sucker is. >> Yeah. >> Give me that raora, babe. >> Yeah, Ramora's got a neckon mentality. You suck off the nectton. Hey, um Okay, so the balls didn't go into the hoop. >> No, no, no. We're [ __ ]. >> You should see the. >> So many guys have been getting hurt. >> The amount of injury news that's coming. out is unbelievable.

>> Like 10 different guys have been done. for the season since you started. throwing those [ __ ] footballs. >> That That is actually what happened. >> Oh, there's another one. [ __ ]. >> OH, COME ON. >> JACKSON DAR just went into the medical. tent. >> Did he really? >> Yep, he did. >> Look at that. JACKSON. >> NO, NO, NO, NO, NO. HOLD ON. HE'S GOING. TO BE OKAY. THEY'RE GOING TO GET HIM OUT. OF THERE. >> He just went home. >> Oh, that one was supposed to go. >> Jackson Dart just passed out. No, no, no. Go in, please. >> Jackson Dart's not breathing.

>> CPR. Oh my god. >> They're taking Jackson Dart by straight. out of the hospital. >> This is true. No, this is true. Jackson. Dart is injured, though. >> No. >> No. No. >> Oh, thank God. >> I actually believe. >> Yeah, me too. Thank God. Okay. >> Just another 10 visit. >> Is that real? >> No, it's not real. >> Okay. Jeez. What's going on? What's. going on? I can't believe you had your. own quarterback, >> dude. He told me yesterday. Okay. He. said, "My mustache, uh, I'm finding. myself tough to take serious like like. he like he put a mask on. He's playing a. character." And, uh, I do think we have.

a little different Bruce here. Mustachioed Bruce. And I think it. optically it should stick around. I am. worried about the mentality behind the. mustache though, where he says he can't. take himself serious. He pops on the. screen, he's uh, almost wants to drop. into a character. >> I never feel very serious, but I feel. less serious with the mustache for sure. >> Yeah. And when you see yourself, I think. is when you have a real problem with it, which happens to be like Zoom calls and. stuff. Yeah. >> So like he'll pop on a screen and he. just immediately goes like, "Holy [ __ ]. there's Bruce." You know, he drops into.

a character, you know? So he looks too. cool maybe for himself right now, which. is something we're dealing with. Also. dealing with. >> rampid pooping and lack of wiping. >> You tell me. We don't know. We still. don't know. >> Genuinely do not know right now. There. is. >> Do we have like a handful of handful of. suspects? Like how many suspects is it. down to? Two. >> Two. >> Who's it? >> Two. I like this. >> In my mind, it's down to two. Stone. cold. Stonewall two. Down one in mind. But.

>> so Gumpy Gumpy had his own opinion. Then. we presented another option to him and. he goes, >> "That could be it as well. That could be. it as well." And then we said, "Well, what if somebody thinks of another one?". He goes, "No, it's either that those. two." So he is locked in on two. I think. he's the only one that is certain that. it is certainly two people. There's just. an added element of the nonwiping of the. butt leads to there's no way with what. that looked like that you just go. through your day and not know, you know? So, you either got to have no feeling.

back there. >> or did you hop in shower afterwards? >> So, who works out and who isn't on the. show on in front of a camera? >> Yeah. And it's it so the walls are. closing in. >> We got to do the vent. If they did hop. in a shower though, it would be a I. would hope that it's a bit that they're. messing with people, right? If they did. or. >> could if it's a bit then it is. diabolical cuz I am so angry. >> That's not a very funny bit. >> Not at all. >> Maybe it's cuz I'm the one that's open. the stall both times. But like I was. driving into work today and I remembered. and I was so mad like just sitting out.

there before the show. I was like I. [ __ ] have to hate everybody because I. don't know who the one is. So I [ __ ]. hate everybody because of this one. person. So it's if that's a bit I don't. if you're a heel it it has it has. worked. >> I just think it's that's the only. rational like thought like a word. >> We're not dealing with a rational human. being here. Obviously. >> correct. >> for someone that [ __ ] person took a. nasty ass [ __ ] and didn't wipe didn't. flush. Which is why I stand by if you do.

that you should be shot in the head. >> You should be [ __ ] assassinated. >> If you start somewhere else and make it. hurt, you know, shoot him in the leg, right foot, left foot. >> Well, yeah. Yeah, maybe we maybe we. castrate them first. Get one of these. hot hot blades we got around here. We. got swords and [ __ ] Maybe we, you know, sharpen one of these on a wet stone, get. it real hot and slice their dick off. like a knife going through butter and. then just stick it in their mouth and. shoot them in the head. >> I don't think we're going to do that. I. don't think we're.

>> If you do film it, please. >> We're not going to do that. I'll send it. to you. >> That would not happen. But it does sound. like you should maybe write some film. cuz that was like kind of a Saw type, you know, like uh you go watch the Saw. movie and you immediately think to. yourself, somebody had to think of all. those things. We should have eyes on. whoever that was. Feels like this. particular situation has the toxic table. in a uh very toxic place. You guys. should maybe write out your thoughts. right now. On that note, I don't think. this is going to ever happen again. >> It will. Have you talked to him yet? >> The second time. >> Are we sure the first time we found it.

was the first time it happened? >> Yeah. So then we were told about another. time that actually happened last year on. a Friday where I go, "What happened?". And they go and run back in there and do. I don't know. There's a lot of different. defenses going on right now. So I just. know that we need to stop it. >> That picture is disgusting. By the way, picture. >> allegedly it happened on a Friday when I. was not here. I was just informed of. that last evening as we were kind of. diving into the evidence and trying to.

figure this out. It became a fun little. game last night just because how. passionate everybody truly was about. this and. >> when new ideas were presented, we had to. no stone unturned last night. We really. went for it and uh. >> there was a new piece of evidence that. was brought to uh the table that would. have been good for the first time this. happened. I think. >> uh this particular time not really a. similar situation. I I think we have. multiple I think there's multiple. >> There's no way. I think so. Did the. person did the suspect when they were. questioned, did they were they.

defensive? How did they respond? >> Uh what which time? >> Uh this time, right? Like yesterday, last night. >> Okay. Little bit more. So I believe it's. two there's it's down to two people for. both of these. I I. >> could you do like an a slight impression. of them of how they responded when they. were questioned? Like can just. >> No, not going to give that away. But I. do believe it is multiple people that. are doing this. Uh and I think. >> Oh, >> I think the non-wiping of the butt. I. didn't know that there's this many. people that do it. Okay. We. >> I didn't know there was one person that. did it. I didn't know there was one.

person that did it on the planet. It. can't be. >> Huh? >> No, I didn't get that information. personally. I'm just saying like what we. are learning here first time. Nobody. that what there was no wiping of the. butt. There was no toilet paper in that. person. >> Not that we saw. No. Someone left this. person wiped their ass and then ate it, which I'm starting to think we might be. dealing with someone like that. >> There's a good chance. >> Yeah, >> that would be next level. >> Like the uh. >> I think it's multiple people though. That's what we need to. >> The cone heads the cone heads is the. toilet paper. >> I'm telling you, I'm I'm a little bit. worried. Okay.

>> Wait, you think they're like a team. that, like, okay, here we go. This is. what we're doing. >> No, I think uh independent contractors, both of them. >> Two of the dumbest [ __ ] people. >> Absolute buffoonery of the. >> worst people. No one shits in that. toilet. No one shits in that stall ever. And if you do, you shouldn't. There's. way too many options. >> I don't know. Bill told me this, right? He's seen one person [ __ ] in there a lot. of times. >> Yeah, I've seen I've seen people [ __ ] in. there. Even a lot of uh a lot of people. that have eyes on things all of a. sudden, you know, quickly. >> Yeah, exactly. And a lot of people that. always do this or always go in this.

bathroom. [ __ ] people, too. >> Who is it then, Connor? >> He doesn't know. He's He's the most. >> If I [ __ ] knew there'd be one less. person HERE TODAY. >> NO. COME ON. YOU GUYS CAN'T BE TALKING. LIKE THAT. >> Kill him. But someone gets suspended. Like you get suspension. Yeah, right. Everybody's got like six jobs here. You. We can't just be dropping people law. You could kill them. >> I wouldn't do that, but I would make. their life [ __ ] hell. They wouldn't. be able to get to work. >> I like that. >> Oh, you already can't.

>> 60 to 90 days. 120 and 240 days. This. roundabout here. >> Okay. >> We got full road closures like a mile. out each way. >> Blocked roads except for local. >> for the roundabout or is there other. stuff? >> Well, there's like a bunch of. neighborhoods in here. the amount of. people that are just driving through. those. I mean, that has to be in the. thousands I would within the blocked off. area and obviously with the four-way. that's right out here, >> you you have to go around. So, these. neighborhoods obviously have it is it is. crazy times. I guess there was an.

announcement on uh on the Facebook, it's. could be about 609. >> It's not showing up on uh like GPS apps. either that like there's a road closure. so people are just driving up here like. they normally would and then just like. what the [ __ ] is going on and then they. have to, you know, cut through one of. the neighborhoods or. >> Yeah, but it's got to get done easy. Now, I thought we had already been doing. this a lot of time. We've already lost. power and internet multiple times. >> They haven't done anything. >> That's what I'm learning. >> They haven't been doing anything. >> They're It's going to be quick. >> laying the groundwork. >> They're going to Yeah, they're going to. [ __ ] blow through it. >> Yeah, you're probably right. You're. probably right. >> No, no delays. It's going to take.

[ __ ] two weeks. >> We know the lads out there are awesome. dudes. We've talked to the construction. workers. Now, >> the planning from the top, Don, I think. there's going to be some interesting. timelines, I think. Well, and the. problem is it rains for about two weeks. at a time. So, when it rains, typically. construction just gets delayed till it's. done raining. And I mean, we just got. out of a two week window. So, that's why. I'm saying we have two weeks here before. it starts raining for like a month. straight. >> Yeah. Like two months maybe. >> Yeah. So, let's get they they have two.

weeks to do this. >> Remember, we don't see the sun for four. or five months. >> Now, if you are a free agent looking to. sign with the Colts, you should see the. palm trees out here. >> It It is in the beach. Awesome out here. We do have a beach up here. >> Yeah, we do. Right there on the lake. >> Don't go in the water. >> No. Touch the sand. Not the water. >> Yeah. Do not go in the water. There's. ecoli in there. But the beach is nice. >> Not just a little ecoli. >> No. Like a bunch. Like you will get. really [ __ ] sick if you go in there. >> It's interesting. But you can hang out. on the sand, which is what we have.

Exactly. Boom. Right there. >> Look at that. Real. >> Okay. Yeah. It's real. And if you're a. free agent, that can all be available to. you. >> That kid is really close to the water. >> Yeah. Do you'd be shocked how many. people still just go [ __ ]. >> parents got arrested last week. >> That's how Mick got how he is. >> That explains a lot. >> And now he doesn't know how to flush a. toilet. >> Whoa. That sounds like Tony. >> Tonyy's number one. >> Tony thinks it is. Okay. That's an. interesting little uh Now we got people. on the record starting to say so. >> Yeah. But Mitch said that he only poops.

in the woman's bathroom. >> Mhm. >> And we've heard from sources that's not. true. >> Yeah. So. >> what. >> whoever did it is I would assume is. Tony. source said that that's not true. And uh I was cleaning up dog [ __ ] on the. [ __ ] floor. >> Do do not say that I am the master. [ __ ] Everybody knows where I [ __ ]. and when I [ __ ] because it's honestly I. take too long. Yeah, I know. Cuz guess. what? Kind of. Maybe I'm SMOKING A.

LITTLE BIT. >> I I HAVE TO BE AWAY FROM I HAVE TO BE IN. a certain drug testing him tomorrow. >> Now someone someone who is smoking in. the bathroom all the time would be a. prime prospect to forget to wipe their. [ __ ] ass. >> I don't like that narrative. I don't. like that narative. I don't like that. They would be. >> I don't like that narative. >> Now, with that being said, I've only. ever seen Mid poop in the women's. bathroom. And if I ever did see him poop. in the men's bathroom, it was the most. disgusted, smelly poop you've ever. smelt, but from the handicap stall. I've.

never seen him poop in the stall. That. was in question. >> Okay. Well, and also he was putting in. that work yesterday. Uh, >> I don't think it was Mitt. >> I don't think it was just from hearing. his voice. I don't think it was him. >> I don't think you know everything. though. I don't think you know. everything that's been said. You're. >> right. I don't. >> No. I do not believe it. Once again, Tone is the only one who has said who he. thinks it is. >> Record. >> Yeah, he is the only one. >> I've gotten texts from a lot of others. that agree with me. So, >> Oh, really? Off the record? Yeah. >> Okay. Interesting. We'll get to the. bottom of it. Uh, okay. Let's take a.

break. Let's come back on the other. side. Let's hit all the headlines that. we didn't get a chance to chat about. I'll tell you the college football. craziness is absurd actually. >> Like that shit's crazy. >> [ __ ] dope. >> The school me too. I would like football. to start and you know we've been. pounding the drum that once football. starts that nobody's going to talk about. this. >> Let's go UT Mark. >> Let's go Youngsttown State. >> Yeah. >> But I mean if that kid gets touchdown. first week. >> and does something. >> go up 33 nothing on Clemson.

>> You know that's going to immediately. just be like look who y'all. Also, how. many tight ends? >> How many tight ends does Llay need? >> What if he goes, "Guess who's back? Guess who's back?". >> What if he scores three touchdowns. against Miss? >> [ __ ] world's going to implode down. >> They just gave their starting tight end. number seven. You know what that means. at LSU? They don't need another one. >> Yeah. I think you have kind of got to. the point where you're like, I is this. worth all of this [ __ ] that's going on. right now? >> I stand with Kirby. He said, "Hey, these. boys have been fighting with me for. eight months. I'm not going to give him. some job to some guy just got here.".

>> I [ __ ] love Kirby, bro. Kirby. about. Mad. >> Oh, yeah. >> Okay. I missed that. >> Well, that's that's kind of where I'm at. is like I get we're doing like, hey, if. they're not playing for us, they're. going to be playing for someone else. But we're not hearing that from anybody. else. We're only hearing it from Lane. and LSU. So, until we hear it from. someone else, I'm thinking this [ __ ]. guy is orchestrating everything. He's. the only one talking about it. He's the. only one who wants to do it cuz everyone. is coming out and being like, "Yeah, it's not right. I don't think we're. going to do it." But, but apparently.

everybody's [ __ ] reaching out to. these guys. If you're not playing with. us, you're going to be playing with. somebody else. >> Yeah. Well, you know, >> I don't [ __ ] buy that until I see it. >> So, I don't Lane is Lane being told by. agents that other people are involved. >> Maybe. >> Maybe. Is Lane doing the negotiating. directly or is that a GM that's doing. this and he's just kind of doing the. talking and you know who's where the. information is coming from. I think it. is a very interesting piece of. information if anybody ends up on any. other teams like if it only benefits LSU.

and the injunction was in Baton Rouge. >> which thus far. >> publicly that's what's being stated but. we don't know what's happening behind. closed doors negotiations and everything. like that. We don't know who's talking. to who. We don't know what players. because there's what dozens of these. guys allegedly that could fall into. these particular injunctions. I think. other states have them as well. But if. it's only LSU, I think that's going to I. think that's going to be real loud. I I. think that is going to probably have the. SEC cuz LSU already voting against this. happening.

>> I think it's going to get real loud if. it's just LSU. Now granted, the old Miss. NIL Walker. >> Walker Jones. >> Jones, >> great name to be in the. >> Walker Jones comes out and says, "We. didn't do any Oh, we didn't do any. negotiating." know where there was none. of that from us. Uh so that's them. clearing their name with this particular. player. But we have seen the SEC. recruiting trail potentially go through. some muddy waters in the past. And I'm. not saying miss. I'm saying Lane thinks.

that other people are doing this as. well. Will that happen? We find out and. that's where the entire conversation. kind of begins and ends. >> Well, and some of the other examples was. like Texas with that offensive lineman, but that kid didn't transfer in. That. kid went to Texas, then went to a mini. camp, then went back to Texas. They. didn't get him from some other school. So, that adds another layer. Like the. Indiana guys, the two guys from Indiana. who are trying to play again. They're. just not transferring from a different. school to Indiana. >> And those guys got hurt. So, they're. basically just getting like a medical. red shirt to play another year. >> Kid from Texas tried out, right? There.

was two tryyouts. Is that what they were. considered? >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Didn't make the weekend. Goes back. >> Just going back to the college he was at. the year before. >> Oh, man. Woo. >> Get hot in the kitchen. >> I am just kind of tired of talking about. it and I just want the season to start. because it's [ __ ] horshit that this. is all we're talking about right before. >> Is Kirk doing it? >> No, they would never because he's. [ __ ] got integrity and it's college. football. It's not, oh, you weren't. quite good enough to make an NFL team. and why don't we [ __ ] give you a. million bucks to come back and play for.

us this year. It's college [ __ ]. football. You saw it. Big Tan's going to. lead from the front. We're not going to. be [ __ ] taking any [ __ ] from the. back. Okay. You want You want to play. with these guys? You're gonna get. suspended six games. There's gonna be. institutional penalties. This is college. [ __ ] football. This ain't you played. six months with the Cleveland Browns, four months with the Cleveland Browns. You're not [ __ ] good enough to make. the team. Come on back. We got you. Maybe you'll Maybe you'll catch 15. touchdowns this year and be a first team. all-American. And maybe you'll get. drafted in the third round next year.

Let's try it out. No, we ain't ever. gonna [ __ ] do that. Kirk Kirk get a. fivestar freshman quarterback and sit. his ass until his junior year just out. of spite because guess what? We got. [ __ ] these guys who've been putting. in the work that have been here which I. necessarily love that but that's just. the way it is. >> I'm good with that. >> I'll tell you what people were saying. maybe Iowa's getting some of these NFL. guys. Is that what they were saying? >> They were saying that maybe the Iowa. Hawkeyes. >> No one is saying that. No one is saying. that cuz we do it the right way. >> Now you got raising hecklinsky.

>> Mhm. >> Yeah. Well, maybe. >> we still haven't [ __ ] named a. starting quarterback yet. >> Well, I thought we were raising. Hecklinsky. >> I think we're going to see him and Hank. Bryan quite a bit week one and then. we'll kind of go from there. >> I like Hank hanging on. >> Yeah, >> I like that. Putting up fight. >> Mhm. Consider me a Hecklinsky guy. I. want to raise some heck this year. But, you know, I trust Kurt. >> Big 10's going to lead from the front. I. like Landing first coach that came out, right? And said, >> "Yeah, >> you're an NFL guy. You're an NFL guy.". >> Yeah. Get the [ __ ] out.

>> Respect. That's why I'm wearing the O. today cuz we staying with them. >> How about you? Do you what? >> I don't I stay with Mario Crystal and. Coach Cand. >> Mario, >> another guy who would not [ __ ]. welcome any of his guys back because. >> Do we know. >> he set them free? >> Pretty pretty sure. >> Yeah. Crewing classes. He's got. >> AJ, where do you stand? >> Stand with Ryan Day in the Ohio State. Buckeyes. >> Okay. And if they sign a guy from the. NFL,

>> I sign I side with whatever decision. they make to make the ball club better. >> There's a lot. >> trying to win games around here. We're. trying to win games. We don't want to. get fired. >> There's going to be a lot of that idea. >> I think you guys are going to be all. right. >> If we got a couple guys coming from the. NFL, my tune would change pretty. quickly, but I know it's not going to. happen. So, >> so I don't even I don't even need to go. there. And I don't have a college team, so I could stand on my high ground. >> You certainly can. You can grandstand. the [ __ ] out of that cuz you're going to. go low somewhere else. Yeah. kind of. balancing it out. I get it. >> I get it. If it's just LSU, I think this.

is over. >> I think that's the other part of it is. that I'm sick of Lane Keifin being like, "What are we doing? What do we do?". Playing victims and then also doing the. [ __ ] that pisses everybody off. Like, why are they pissed? Everybody could do. it. It's like, dude, shut the [ __ ] up. I'm sick of that [ __ ] Bruce. >> Have been sick of this [ __ ] It feels. like Lane lost Con man a little bit over. the I don't know how in the last 24. hours because he was on the show. yesterday. I was listen to him like all. right Lane obviously has his reasons and.

that's just how it's going to be. I I. thought it was just going to roll on to. the next one. And then the Big 10's. saying I don't think so. The SEC saying. I don't think so. LSU voting 160. Conor's like. >> this guy's literally just acting by. himself and this is I'm sick AND. >> HE [ __ ] LOST ME LAST YEAR. HE CAME. ON. HE'S LIKE HEY I got this. documentary. Uh it's coming out. It's. going to be pretty cool. And I watched. it. [ __ ] Wednesday night, E60. Awesome. All of a sudden, I'm like, I. like Lane Keifin. Then I don't know, in. January, he decides to leave his. program. They can easily stay at be like.

the most legendary coach in the history. of the program. And then he's acting. like they won't let me coach. I don't. know why. I'm trying to coach. I don't. know why they won't let me, but they. won't. And it's not my fault because I. want to be here for the next two weeks. It's like, dude, okay, playing victim. Then once again, we're doing this again. right now with all these [ __ ] guys. It's like, okay, you know what, Lane? I. hope you go six and six and they [ __ ]. run you out of town. I hope it's a. miserable experience. >> They got a $50 million roster down.

there. >> Exactly. >> Allegedly. I mean, who knows what's. real. Who knows what's real and what. isn't real, but it's like I don't think. they're going to go six and six. And. that's why this all happens because Lane. is going to win bowl games. >> And that's why it'd be awesome cuz it's. wouldn't be the first time there's high. expectations and it [ __ ] burns down. Yeah, >> at the hands of Lane Keifin. >> And I'm not praying on that to happen, but if it were to happen, I ain't. [ __ ] grabbing a hose and saying, "Give this guy a break, saying, "Look. what this [ __ ] guy did to your team. Where's Brian Kelly?

>> You're going to hose him back. >> Where's Brian Kelly? Bring Brian Kelly. back. >> Yo, money. We get a guy. We get a guy. And look who the the agent uh the. taxpayer going to pay. Jeff Landry. I. wonder how he feels about all this. He. probably loves it. >> Yeah, >> he doesn't. As long as they're [ __ ]. one and0. >> Have you heard about the women's. basketball team? What happened? I guess. there's been some news over the last. couple days. >> Mhm. >> Have you heard about that? >> No prize. Something like that. >> That's what they're going for. >> Hoping for which I like cuz sports do.

kind of, you know, unify and bring. people together. People from different. backgrounds have the ability to lock in. Uh can you turn that uh the the Yep. Thank you. The people from different. backgrounds have the ability to kind of. lock in. We're not going to take a. break. We're just going to answer this. stuff and then you know why why would we. >> Sure. >> Go take five and then come back to do. where about we should do it right. >> here. We'll test everybody's bladders. >> Yeah. And I have to piss real bad. I'm. ready to go. >> Yeah. I like it. >> I got to piss pretty good too. Legs are.

pretty deeply crossed right now to kind. of save myself from myself. But I don't. know if you heard AJ down at LSU. Uh the. women's basketball obviously the men's. football team big conversation. the. men's basketball team, >> big conversation for similar things. The. women's basketball team, uh, Coach Miy. actually, she had these visions of. unifying a war torn, uh, territory. She. thought to herself, if we can get. somebody from both sides of this war in. the same locker room and on the same.

court shooting at the same hoop, we can. maybe bring two countries together. that. have potentially been a war for it seems. like forever now. >> Yeah. Long time I play from Israel. >> Nope. >> No. No. Different one. >> in Palestine. >> Nope. Nope. I don't think. >> that's next. >> She might. They might try that next. >> Yeah. We don't know. We don't know where. her scouts are. >> Different one. >> But we do know she had uh. >> Buffalo assistant. >> She she had scout in Ukraine. >> Oh wow. >> They had a Ukrainian player.

>> And then say, you know what? We can be. the ones that do this. Baton Rouge, Louisiana. women's college basketball. We can be. the ones that can end it over there. Brings in a Russian player. Okay. We got. a Ukrainian player on team. Got a. Russian player on team now. This could. be a shining example to the world about. coming together in what we are. She says. all these Ukrainian girl quits. I ain't. doing this. Dad's in the military. I'm. not No way am I doing. She leaves the. team. >> Yeah. >> So coach Mali has these grand ideas of.

bringing everybody together. I guess she. didn't run him by the Ukrainian. >> didn't seem like. >> uh representation of the conversation. Uh brought the Russian on the team. Ukrainian said, "Get me out of here. I'm. not doing it." Now, was she already. going to leave the team? Was there a. chance she had ideas before this? It. wasn't exactly directly because of this, but it just feels like a lot of. potential L's in LSU happening back to. back to back to back. But the idea that. she had bringing the world together, I. like that. I like that a lot. I just. think she kind of misread the war maybe.

>> Yeah, maybe a tad. Yeah. Although I kind. of I'm reading here Moi told the. Ukrainian player she could not pass on a. good basketball player just because of. war between two countries. >> but I heard it did work. I heard Putin. saw this and was like ceasefire. >> ceasefire. >> just for the moment. >> Yeah, for like extended time being fans. >> We'll pick this up after March. >> So sports let the girls play the. >> buzz. So I I'm not you know that might. have been uh AI that might not have been. real but I did see that.

>> You did see that? Okay. All right. >> That's the first thing he said in the. Paul Burrow the other day. >> And then he took off from the foul line. Just. >> Oh, he said high expect. That's what he. said. >> Wow. That see that's what coach Malty. was trying to do. >> Wasn't it didn't last long, but at least. it lasted, >> right? I guess we we should be happy. about that. >> Their men's team has about four guys. heading into first semester right now. because they got a bunch of G-League. guys and this thing was like, "Hey, all. those guys can't play anymore." So, I. think they got like half a roster at LSU.

for basketball. So, just thinking about. the future, if you want to take the. under on their team total wins, that is. probably a very, very, very good idea. >> for the LSU men's basketball. >> Yeah, they they added five guys from. professional leagues. >> So, you're saying because of what the. SEC said? >> Yeah, they have like six guys on their. roster right now. >> Wow. >> But, >> and it's August 26. >> Their head coach, Will Wade, serial. [ __ ] cheater. So, he will he will. figure it out. >> What do you mean? He's just been caught. up in some scam. He got fired at LSU.

initially for cheating. Uh had to go. somewhere else. Went to McNe State uh. with you know Amir Khan, Mr. Aura King. Uh got them to the tournament. [ __ ]. cut bait real quick. Went to NC State. Uh got them pretty decent. Cut bait real. quick. Let me go back to LSU. They. they're good with me being a cheater. I'm going to go back and you know be use. those resources. >> But how do you get how do you keep going. up these jobs if he was getting caught. up in things? You're saying he did cheat. at one point? >> Oh yeah. Big. That's why. >> not at all the points. >> He's winning games. I'm kind of. guessing, you know. Yeah. Like, you.

know, do people give a [ __ ] if he was. cheating at McNe State? Probably not. That's why he got fired from LSU. It was. like a big scandal. Uh, and then he left. and then he's kind of just But, you. know, it's kind of a in college. basketball, I feel like it's, you know, cheat always. These guys cheat, get. fired, doesn't matter. They end up. getting a big time job elsewhere. >> Time heals all wounds. >> Yeah. And maybe this and to tie it back. to what Petiti said and what Seni said. and what the ACC and the Big 12 is maybe. what we needed all along.

>> was these conferences to police. themselves. >> And we found our our way here. >> It's perfect. >> Thank you, Lane Kein. >> Thank you, Lane. >> Yep. >> And that's what I think Lane will. probably say. Yeah, >> you're welcome. >> Because there's now a coaching when you. can get hired, >> right? Lane Gifin rule, I believe. >> Shout out. >> Now there's going to be one for this. college ball. >> Trailblazer. You know the the distance. between a villain and a hero. >> Uhhuh. >> Not that far.

>> I heard that recently. >> And that Lane Keifin coaching thing. actually a great thing for college. football. >> Incredible. Yeah. Needed cuz last year. was that was that was insanity. That was. my first real like what this isn't real. life. Yeah, it is. And actually we're. talking about it right now. Yeah, but. like this doesn't feel like it's real. life. Like what do you mean you're. trying to win national championship. somewhere else? You're a you can win a. national championship where you're doing. a decision to win a national champion. You actually. >> Yeah, but that it doesn't matter. Just. we're going to talk about it. It's like.

what the [ __ ] This doesn't seem real. How how is this even real? Like yeah, this is just way it has to be, man. Just. got to start recruiting for the other. school, man. Just can't be there. Got to. get out of here. See you later right. now. It's like in the middle of a. playoff run. Doesn't feel like the. timing is a little bit wrong. Yeah, but. this way it is. They won't let him, coach. He can't. recruit anybody. He's not allowed in the. building. We got to sweep it for bugs. I. mean, what a [ __ ] wild world college. football. I I mean, just that situation. in of itself, let alone everything else. that's going on everywhere. Uh, thank. God for it. >> Thank God for sports.

>> Yeah. >> Thank God. >> Summerall, he was doing the exact same. thing. He was he had two lane but he. already had the Florida job and he. basically said like. >> I'm doing two full-time jobs right now. So it's very difficult. I'm trying to. get us ready to win, you know, and but I. also like. >> I got to I got to build the team up in. Florida. Well, there's a lot of stuff. that needs to get done there. >> Who do you bury? He buried Dano Summer. >> Yes. >> Yes, he did. Florida. Yeah. >> Think he posted a picture of Dano. sniffing shoes. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Oh, that's right. >> He was sniffing some shoes. >> Why did he do that? >> He said something about uh pedicures.

Dano did. Yeah, >> like guys who get pedicures or weirdos. or something like that. >> Yeah, he's 100% against Yeah, I remember. that one really big. >> I listen, you do what you got to do. I. got a lot of people that I know that. have to take care of their feet for a. living, you know, like I think a lot of. athletes at this point decided to take. care of their feet. People in the past. did not. I hate the feeling whenever. >> Oh yeah. >> Really? I hate it. >> Great pedicure. >> You love the feeling. >> Oh yeah. >> See, I I get real uncomfortable. The. bottom of my feet, I think, are a little.

bit weirdly sensitive. the the the. grinding of the I don't like the feel. I'm not against it. Go do it. I've done. it multiple times, but I only enjoy. really a couple parts of it. At the end, I think they do the the salt the the sea. salt, >> the stones on the calves. >> It's a great part. I mean, that's an. incredible part, but when they're going. to work on my feet, I don't really like. the feeling of it at all. When they. start doing the the grading of [ __ ] the. >> I tell them no files allowed. >> Yeah. I don't I don't like some salt. >> I'm not against it. You do what you got. to do. But I'm just saying like I I. don't really prefer the feeling. You big.

You do petty manny. >> Oh yeah. >> Yeah. I think it's I think a lot of. people have. >> pedicure manicure. >> Yeah. Never done a manny but the petty. the best. >> Yeah. I I don't really do I don't like. the feeling of it. So that's why I don't. do it. But I appreciate that people are. taking care of themselves. >> Which takes us back to let's make sure. we're wiping after we poop. >> Yeah. >> Well said, Pete. >> Even just flushing. If you want to live. your [ __ ] life like that without. wiping your ass, fine. Flush the toilet. >> All right. I think we would smell what. else is person not to wash your hand.

>> We would smell the. >> That's That's You got to wash your ass. I believe is red. >> We do. We share thing, you know, we. touch the sink. >> Yes, exactly. Fridge like, you know, a. lot of things that we sanitize the whole. place. >> We are actually cleaners coming in. today. >> Funny funny you say. >> If someone doesn't wipe, then there's. probably other things they're neglecting. in their life. That's pretty agree. >> Yeah, I would think so. >> Yeah. Which kind of maybe opens up the Nope. Not gonna get into that. >> What's that? >> Just sounds like Tone thinks he knows.

who it is. >> I did a private investigation. I. interviewed a lot of people in here. Um, and this is where the evidence led. >> Okay. Well, sound like you might have. had a little bit of a. >> No, it's nothing personal. >> All right. I don't know if that sounds. real or not. >> Remember his has to keep has to just. keep going with it, though. Like now. they came back. All right, guys. F it. It was me. Like, I'll give him a hundred. bucks actually. >> Wow. >> Okay. >> I'll match. >> I'll match. I'll match. >> I'll match. >> Five. No, you give me give some [ __ ]. in here a hundred bucks because they. won't openly say that they're a ploy.

You just say you're gonna give them. money and then they say that they did it. and THEN WE [ __ ] BEAT THE [ __ ] OUT OF. THEM. >> OKAY. YEAH, THEN SURE. I don't give a. hundred bucks. >> You got it. You You know what? I'll give. them a hundred,000 bucks. >> There we go. Okay, that's very kind of. Thank you for the Thunderdome culture. Yeah, >> you could do the old uh lie detector. situation, like bring a legit lie, >> dude. Great idea. Great [ __ ] idea. >> Yes.

>> Yeah, I like that. Now, granted, you. know that somebody will step on a. Somebody will step on a tack here. >> Put a penny under underneath there. >> Anybody that's doing that ain't that. bright. >> Nope. >> They definitely are. Anybody that's. doing that will definitely swindle their. way through this for sure. I told Pat. last time, could we please not do that. cuz my brain is so weak that my brain. will convince myself that I I'm the one. doing it. >> Yeah, I think that's why they don't. really let it carry into court, but it. certainly has done talk shows great. justice for a long time. That those are.

crazy days watching TV. You see a guy. sitting up there and I guess at this. point, you know, those weren't a work. >> No, it couldn't have been. >> No, it was 100% real. >> No, that was a shoot, brother. >> 100% real. >> That was a shoot, bro. programs. >> All of them. >> All of them. Mory, Steve, Jerry, you. name it. Anyone at. >> Jerry's was definitely for real. >> Sally, Jesse, Raphael, >> was for real. Ricky was Ricky Lake. >> Ricky Lake. >> Was a beast. Absolute beast. Those are.

good old days. >> Oh yeah. >> And they would trot somebody out there. just right in front of everybody to see. >> Are you the biggest piece of [ __ ] that. ever exists? No. >> That's a lie. This guy is the biggest. piece of [ __ ] And then guess what? the. next episode somehow they found a bigger. piece of shoot. >> and they just kept rolling them out. there. That was an unbelievable casting. job. There's no way that was a work. Those are all shoots. Good work by them. scouting out all those situations and. getting them on television. >> What if we get O's in here to do some of.

his mental [ __ ]. >> I don't think his test I was going to. say, isn't he a fraud? >> What? No, that was proven uh wrong. >> Was it? I don't know. I just. >> He did something to me at the backstage. of the ESP. I was really [ __ ] up. He. had uh. >> Whoa. He. you are. >> okay. Let me rephrase that if we could. dump that from the record. I ran into. O's Brax and uh he did a little trick. He did a little little mental trick and. he he guessed Chris Lman's name. Slar.

monster. And I don't know how O's would. ever know the slur monster. Legitimately. I have no idea how he would know that. So I was all the way back in soon as he. did that. I'm like this exactly the. [ __ ] Just like when he got you. >> I was about to say he did my phone like. that. My daughter's nickname with the. emoji. >> with the emoji next to it. >> There's been some videos on that one, too. Yeah. >> I got Send me that, AJ. I need it. because Yeah, me too. That'll that'll. that that'll make me. >> It's long got in a really long. situation. >> Hawk's always been a disbeliever. He has. >> I'm not a disbeliever. He does. unbelievable stuff. O is amazing. But.

let's There's not wizards walking this. earth, fellas. >> I disagree. Sure. >> I'm just going to let you know on a. little secret. Don't want to break your. heart. >> We don't know that. >> Picasso. I do. I do. >> Picasso. You don't think there's aliens. in. >> Picasso? He's a genius. >> You haven't watch a wizard. Well, >> he is kind of a wizard, I think, with. what he's able to do. But you're you're. you're not a believer in uh. >> I'm a believer in doing great tricks and. illusions and all of that and magic. tricks. I'm not a believer that somebody.

is reading my mind or your mind. >> Okay. I mean, [ __ ] Chris Larmman. That that I don't know. That's a deep. pool there. I don't know how he would. have said very good at what he does. Amazing at what he does. He's not. climbing into your little brain and. figuring out what you're thinking, though. >> We don't know. >> You're big brain. Sorry. >> No, a little brain. You got a little. brain here. Lot of air. Lot of air. It's. got to get. >> I'm pretty sure AJ, >> it does. >> Yeah. There's not even openminded. I. thought you were an open mind. >> I'm very openminded, but this has been a. thing for years and years. They've been. trying to do. Look at Pen and Teller. He. gave, you know, they give a billion.

dollars if someone can prove that. they're a mentalist or they can read. your mind or whatever. Guess what? No. one's no one's stepped up yet. >> Yeah. But Pen and Teller have been. fooled before. They get a big FU trophy. called Foos. You ever watch that? You. ever You ever watch? >> It was a good show. It was a good show. >> Great show. I love Magic. I I really. love Magic. But I do appreciate the fact that. somebody took an hour and a half to. break down as the mentalist. And I think. um if that's happening, you did good. >> I think your I think your gimmick. worked. >> Yeah. And people actually watched it.

like, "What the [ __ ]. >> What?". >> Yeah. You did good there, O. And he's. running like 27 miles a day somehow. He. does a marathon every day. Yeah, that's. kind of crazy. >> So. maybe. >> a little bit of a. >> No, maybe AJ is right. I guess he would. have won a lotto at some point or. something. >> Yeah, >> they already. >> I have a I have a tough time putting big. night out out of my head. >> [ __ ] leg. >> There's actually a rule for that if you. like use it. >> I have a real tough time for I would. never forget that. >> Yeah, but he was.

>> 37 fell flatter in a [ __ ]. >> Yeah, but that was a crowd full of. drunkers. drunken ying in. >> doesn't matter. That's the the brain. turns into a con. >> He's a mentalist. >> No, it does. >> You got to fight through that. I I. wasn't drunk. It. >> is true, Ty. >> I mean, him trying to do that to an. entire arena of Y. >> It was an aggressive move. >> It was I thought it was an aggressive. trick. >> Those brains were barely firing at that. point. >> Yeah. Had the. >> It wasn't that late in the night. I. mean, I know drinking all day. >> No, it was like 47 different inputs into.

your iPhone. That's the problem. That. was Yeah. None of those people know how. to. >> trying to get you to spell boobs on your. calculator outside. I think so. >> No, it wasn't. That is what. >> That's what it was. >> 8,000. >> like Steelers go Steelers boobs. >> or 5,88 or. >> like this. >> I don't [ __ ] know. It was the worst. thing I've ever seen. I remember. >> Worst thing you've ever seen. >> I mean, as far as like mentalist stuff. goes, it was basically David Bla hanging. in a harness with a bunch of balloons. Like, what the [ __ ] No, that was way.

better, actually. >> Uh, all right. Let's get to a break. until tomorrow. We're on 1:00 tomorrow. >> 1 to 4. >> 1 p.m. >> We are so close to like actual season. >> So close. >> We are still off seasonason right now. >> Yes. >> Regular season hasn't kicked off. What. an offseason it's been. >> Mhm. >> It's been a lot to happen. AJ came a. little bit of a wizard, a little bit of. an alien here with the neon light behind. his head on this particular graphic. >> So, he doesn't believe in wizards. Debbut not going to be here tomorrow. Debbut going back. Hey, great work this.

week. >> My daughter got a buff match tomorrow, too. >> Nice. Good luck. >> Here we go. >> Oh, yeah. Who? >> Sophomore season. >> Oh, my bad. Your daughter. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Who Who does she play? Is it just like a. whole area? How's. >> uh Yes. Usually like I think six, four, either four or six schools. However many. schools and then it's a few of them on. different TE's and they play nine. >> Little jamboree. >> Yep. >> You guys got people moving balls like uh. Foxy said he did school entrenching the. greens. That was alarming when Foxy put. that cuz you know my my thought this.

daughter in particular she is by the. book. She don't like to cheat. She's. very and I'm like hey you know we can't. tell us we can't even as parents help. your kid find the ball. >> She has an Well actually. >> yeah you don't do that. Yeah, it's very. kind of you. >> I mean, I respect that, but also for the. good of the team. >> In this case, cheating would actually. >> No, Foxy. See, >> this is what we're saying, Foxy. >> But it could hit you though and go in. the fairway. Her drive hits you. >> Exactly. >> Oh, for sure. I'll take that one for the. team.

>> You're trying to Erling Holland. >> Mhm. >> Kick. >> Oh, I didn't see that ball there. Your. foot just pops that thing into the. fairway. >> Don't be doing that. We need the. integrity of [ __ ] golf. This is what. they're saying. Shrink the game. And. then you need to teach her like you need. to walk 30 yards ahead of her group. She. needs to walk 30 yards ahead of her. group. Oh my my ball's on the green. You. mark that thing about 10 ft closer than. it actually was on the. No way. This is disgusting. Don't be.

just right there from the. >> Don't be doing Don't be doing any of. this and don't be tackling anybody on. the on the golf course. People don't. like that. >> No, they don't. >> Since the beginning of time. >> Who does that? It's not good. Good. >> Be a friend. Tell a friend something. nice might change your life. We're in. this thing together. >> Rest in peace, Dolly Parton. >> Yeah. >> Well said. >> Well said, bos before I get out of here. Love you, Dolly. Miss you, Dolly. >> Rest in peace, Dolly. Thank you for your. contribution to society. >> Very wide ranging.

uh folks. mourning Dolly Parton's passing. >> Flags are at half staff, I. >> Yeah, >> not just flags. >> Damn right. Be a friend. Tell a friend something. nice. It might change our life. >> That was a good one. That's pretty good. Pretty good. >> Safe travels. >> Thank you, brother. >> AJ, get your state in order. >> Yeah. Yep. >> Just like the commissioners are. seemingly doing for their conferences. >> Ty,

>> tomorrow's going to be a good day. >> I hope so. Iowa's got a big game in the LLWS today. That's got kind of all I'm thinking. about. >> Ohio dominated New Jersey. >> Cur. >> Yeah. >> Soup. >> You will see you. >> tomorrow 1:00. AJ will be in ste. >> Wow. >> Yeah. Team on me. Team on three. For the. good of sport, baby. One, two, three.

Team. Goodbye.