The Pat McAfee Show Live | Wednesday April 29th 2026

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>> Hello, beautiful people, and welcome to. our humble abode, the Thunderdome. on. this big sports [music] Wednesday, April. 29th, 2026. This program begins now. >> Sports are the absolute greatest. And. today we're covering all of them. We. have a special guest joining us. A man. who was once very familiar with this. program has now inked a deal to come. back into the world in which we live. Uh. Ian Rapaort will be joining us in about. 20 minutes or so. We're happy for Rap.

Sheet. Rab sheet allegedly inked a new. multi-year deal with ESPN. We shall see. if he can confirm that or deny that. Obviously, whenever NFL network comes. into the ESPN world, there's a lot of. confusion. Everybody doesn't know what. the future looks like. Well, uh, we know. Rap Sheet here is now officially a part. of the ESPN umbrella as an NFL insider. We believe he'll be probably junior NFL. insider. The senior NFL insider is Adam. Shfter. So, junior here will be back. >> Congrats, Junior.

Way to go, Junior. >> Junior. >> Oh, I know. We don't want to do it. We. just thought of this junior title. >> six h four minutes ago. Okay. As we were. standing up here, we're like so excited. Rap's come back. He's in the thing. And. then we're like, "Oh, how should I. introduce him?" Because he used to be. senior NFL insider at NFL Network, you. know, and there's an entire team. That's. like a rank and file type situation in. the insider world, but we know senior. NFL insider ESPN is one man. Yeah. Right. >> And that's Michigan man Adam Shfter. So. now that rap sheet has come into the. fold, he understands that. He has told. us that both privately and publicly.

like, "Hey, Shfter is currently the. guy." And then they write an article. It's like successor though to Sher. And. then Sherfter goes, "Whoa, whoa, whoa. >> I'm still running five miles a day. easily.". >> I mean, I'm in the middle of my prime. right now. Rapture, I think, understands. it. I think their relationship is going. to go very well. I I think it's going to. be good for the league. But junior NFLs. insider for. >> little cheap, [laughter]. >> the prince who was promised here. That's. right. >> Who was promised? Yeah, J.R. Deuce. Maybe call him Deuce. I mean, we'll get. into it. Uh we will certainly chat about. that in about 20 minutes or so. We're. happy for him. We're happy for the.

league and we're very thankful. Another. man will be joining us which I know ESPN. fans will be pumped up about. Uh Mike. Tannen Bomb will be joining us. >> Come on Tannon Bomb. >> Okay. Tannon Bomb never okay on our. radar. Okay. He was very clearly uh part. of a different team we thought at ESPN. and we've seen some things he said on TV. and we go okay it's okay if we never. talk to that guy. >> Yeah. >> Then Mike Tannon Bomb showed up at the. event on Wednesday, the Football Town. event. had a couple of drinks, came. right up to us, started talking to us. He loves bowl. >> Yes, he does.

>> And everything he says up there, that is. not okay. He's not just working people. up whenever he says the stuff that he. says. He genuinely feels that way. >> and he has a much better personality. than any of us could have imagined. >> Amen. Swing a hot bat. >> and we enjoyed the hell out of him. That's why I'm happy that entire event. happened. Tan mom's coming on today. Yes, we will treat him exactly how we. treat everybody else that comes on the. show and I think he will be appreciative. of it. I think he will be excited for us. to immediately go. Hey, >> come on. >> That's dumb. That that is not reality. there. But could be, you know, and.

that's like uh he's been around ball a. long time. Obviously had his title. I'm. excited to see how he performs on this. program. >> Me too. >> And uh we were very pumped to have. >> Me too. >> He won Connor boxing table at Boston. Conor at Tai Schmidt. Con man was won. over by Tannon Bomb on Wednesday night. at the Cayman Science Center at the. Football Town draft spectacular. >> I mean, he worked for the Jets for 20. years. He's basically the epitome of. somebody that I don't want to talk to. because he was a Jets mark for so long. And then I mean 10 minutes in I'm like, "Okay, Mike Tannon Bomb." And then 20. minutes in I'M LIKE, "MIKE TANNON BOMB'S. THE MAN. [laughter].

I CAN'T BELIEVE this right now." So I am. excited to have him on here. >> This is what happens though. You know, now we're becoming biased. You know, now. we're starting to like learn more about. these people that we have maybe judged. for a long time. And maybe we're. starting to like them. I don't like. that. >> We got to remember stay in our holes. still, boys. True. Okay. We got to. remember stay in our bunkers. Let's not. be all the branching everybody. Okay. We. still got to have our spice in our. Exactly. nine year NFL vet Dary J. Butler's starting to get feeling good. THAT'S [laughter]. YOU KNOW ALREADY TO BE NICE good people. I will sell out to be a nice good. person. I I am I I have no problem being.

kind to anybody. It's free. >> I'm not selling out. >> I'm buying into being kind to people. >> Yeah. How about bad guy? >> You used to wear. that. one. >> Oh, you can't. >> This is Amazon still. This thing came in. a bag. Also, I don't think it's uh. properly put together. So, I had to cut. the side there, you know. So, straight. scissors to this thing. Once I wash it, it's over. Uh but thank you. Yeah, maybe.

I am evolving a little bit. And maybe we. >> maybe we don't bury Dan and Bomb for. everything he says on other shows going. forward. We'll see. We'll see. >> We'll see. He has a chance. We're giving. him a chance. Uh we'll also have Shawn. Shirani on for a driveby. >> Sure. >> Mhm. >> Uhhuh. Excited to see. >> slaughter everybody again. >> Yeah. What do you mean? >> Well, I I think Ty put it pretty. eloquently last. >> I mean, it was a Sham's driveby. Um, and. then he did the initial driveby and then. he said, "You know what? Let's circle. the block and make sure everyone's. dead." And, you know, maybe if we see.

anybody else parked. >> Yeah, exactly. Parked. >> He was driving a street cleaner. [laughter]. >> Yeah. So, what we need is we just need. him. We need to know what's happening at. Hoops. Yeah. >> You know, not a deep dive, but he has. all the info. So, he wants to give it to. us. We appreciate that. Hockey certainly. happening. Obviously, we'd like to cover. it. A lot of things happening uh for the. draft and them trying to get rid of uh. people tanking. How can you manage that. while the NBA has come up with an idea? Shams will certainly try to explain it. We got Austin Reeves probably returning. for the Lakers. There's a lot of. storylines that obviously Shams will be.

able to tell us about. We cannot wait to. chat with him about that. Let's go to. one half of the hammer. Cowboys AP Tone. Sick Woods camo you got on right there. I like what you're doing. Maybe you're. thinking about going kill something out. there. I I I respect and appreciate. that. Every night there's a lot for us. to bet on. every single night. Last. night was spectacular. Can I tell you my. favorite moment last night? >> I would love to hear your favorite. moment from last night. >> The Buffalo Sabres. >> Thought they were going to win a playoff. series against the Boston Bruins for the. first time long time. The Blade Boys are. rolling into town. The Buffalo Sabres.

fan base outrageous. You're talking. about an environment of all. environments, >> and that sounds good. >> until a goalie decides we're not going. to lose this game. We saw it in the gold. medal game between the US and Canada. when Halabuk stopped every puck. A 100. shots was not enough. He clearly decided. that he we were not going to lose this. game is what Halabuk said last night. Swayman the Boston Bruins goalie said. we're not losing this game. That it is. just not going to happen. Now did. Buffalo score on him? Yes. Was that.

early? Yes. Did he stand on his head for. the rest of the game? Yes. And in. overtime, did Pasta do some cooking? ABSOLUTELY. >> [screaming]. >> BANG. GAME WINNER. JOE'S OVER TO THE. BACK BOARDS, LOOKS AT THE CROWD. THAT. NEVER HAPPENS. NORMALLY, everybody goes. to the uh to the glass, jumps and turns, and then everybody comes with them. Instead, Pasta goes right to the crowd, looks at him, teams come, hit him in the. head, bang, off the off the glass, off. the glass, off the glass, celebrating. the life away. That is pasta football. right there. That is exactly what.

>> Panak has been doing for a long long. time for the Boston Bruins through an. evolution of the Boston Bruins where. they move on from Marshy and they have. Char retire. He's now running marathons. What the Boston Bruins were whenever. they had the greatest regular season in. the history of hockey to what they are. now, fighting from the death there in. Buffalo in overtime. Pasta getting it. done. Felt like a special night for you. guys as the Celtics got their asses. kicked last night. Yeah, and I wish we. could talk about that, but there's no. time, you know, with backs against the.

wall when it comes to Boston. And that. was one of those Bruins games where it. was going to be Swayman or we were going. to lose five nothing. You mentioned them. scoring right off the bat. There's a. penalty early. Uh, unfortunately, Castle. got a little too aggressive. Hey, don't. don't even come near my goalie. He gets. a rough in. Buffalo goes on the power. play. They score damn near right away. And and that was five minutes into the. game and all of a sudden you're. thinking, "Okay, this is going to. happen. The Blades boys are in town. They're pounding the drum. One of the. Blades boys was so drunk he was standing. in front of the camera. The the other.

Blades boys had to grab him and bring. him. >> Was Whitney chugging something? >> Yeah. Yeah. Whit was chugging one of the. Saber uh beers. He was. >> There's the Blade Boys. They're a. problem. >> Yeah, they're a problem. They're. probably going to be in Boston tomorrow. night, so we got to, you know, still. come prepared. But yeah, Wit was with. the other Blades boys pregame. They were. all getting boozed up. Everything seemed. to go in the Sabres direction early. I. don't know if you saw too the mic cut. out during O Canada while they're. singing the national anthem. Whole. entire arena is singing it. Hate hate.

seeing that as an opposing fan. Very. cool just to see though. >> And by the way, Canada. >> knew it. >> Huh. Knew it. >> Sung it. You're welcome. >> Huh? >> Huh? >> Cuz if our if the mic was to go up in. Canada during national anthem, we know. you guys would do. here in America. Buffalo. >> Yeah. >> Very close to Canada. very very close to Canada. We would. never give it up to Canada. If there was. a negotiation on what cities are coming. and going, we would certainly keep. Buffalo forever. But we just finish it. off. Respect obviously hockey and.

country. A lot of humans in that place. that have done amazing things, including. Bubba Gumpino. That's why they sang. They sang for you, >> Gino. Probably just hockey in general, but I appreciate that. >> Yeah. Certainly not you with the stupid. Dallas Stars. >> Oh yeah, we're in it right now. We're. gluten's got to dial something up. We're. in trouble. He can't score five on five. I can't take it anymore, >> man. I a lot of green on that screen. >> Power play merchants. >> 500 500 minutes without a five on five. goal. >> That's not good. But you're still alive.

How's Otter doing? >> Otter's been good. He's getting no help. We had 12 shots with about 10 minutes. left in the game. We got to get going. here. >> That's an ugly goal right there by. Zukar. Anytime those things are happening, you. know, it's probably not going to be in. your favor for at least the evening, maybe the series. The NHL is swinging a. hot bat. At least one of the games is. going to be spectacular. This is the. second game from last night after Boston. won in overtime over Buffalo. And then. the Edmonton Oilers went absolutely ham. Dry Cidle had two goals uh over the. Anaheim Ducks. That was obviously the.

situation where the goal was called and. then it wasn't called and then Edmonton. Are they going to get robbed again? Is. Mc Jesus ever going to win one? Well, they get a huge dub over Anaheim as. Dryidle puts two away and people's now. talking about him. Is he one of the. greatest Oilers of all time? Hebo sent a. very, very, very particular stat. >> Okay. >> Power play goals in the playoffs in. Oilers history. >> Mhm. >> Dry Cidle just tied who? Wayne Gretzky. >> Wow. That means something. That's pretty.

good. >> Oh, you tell me. Obviously, they got. McDavid. They got a lot of other studs. Never been able to win a cup, though. Always get their hearts broke seemingly. late in the playoffs. McDavid is a. special character. The Florida Panthers. are normally the ones doing the. heartbreaking there for the Edmonton. lads, but the NHL swinging a hot bat. Every night there's at least one good. game. Tonight, this one's going to be. fantastic. Sydney Crosby backs against. the wall. Him, Gino Tanganger, who's. fighting 18, 19 year olds now at the end. of games. Obviously going over to.

Philadelphia, which is a tough barn as. the Flyers try to close out the Pens. Flyers favored in this one. Is that. because they're home, Nick, or is that. just strictly because of how the vibes. are going back to Philadelphia? If. you're going off the vibes, I think the. Penguins would be favored. But. originally in this series, Philly was. taking it to Pittsburgh. Here they are. at home. They're going to be dangerous. at home. That crowd is going to be. rockus. It's like feeding uh wild dogs. red meat. They're going to be playing. videos on that board of Flyers fighting. and hitting Penguins. And the Philly.

crowd, you know, those Philly fans, they're going to be insane. >> And if we know anything about that. Flyers team, that could get them jacked. up. >> They look like a fighting bunch. That. 741, the one that is a Flyer in human. form. Yeah, >> he is gritty as a human. >> Yeah, he's a problem. Tip it. Sanheim, >> he he he might be a serial killer. >> He's a maestro. >> That guy didn't change his face. The. whole I mean, he. >> locked in. >> Remember when he spit at me? That guy, >> he didn't change his face. >> I liked it. >> Yeah, me too. I was big, >> to be honest. It was hard not to become. a fan of the Flyers if you watched them.

live and how they kind of operated with. everything. Off the ice, waving to us. goodbye. I'm sitting there in a neck. race, too, >> sitting down front. I could be in a. handicap seat. They don't even know. Those guys flipping me off down. Exactly. And by the way, I liked it. >> Sure. >> I liked it. I like it better that the. Pens are beating them for sure. But if. this gets to a game seven back in. Pittsburgh, >> good luck. This one's all she wrote. The. Pens move on. I think the NHL playoffs. need the Pens. Okay. I think they need. Boston. But if they don't, incredible. teams across the board. And the tus up. down here, the Mammoth crew, they've.

been surprising everybody. the. ownership, Ryan Smith, who we know. obviously. Okay. He got fined by the NBA. for his team uh uh allegedly tanking. >> Now, he came on and said, "We're. rebuilding.". >> Yeah. >> So, at the six-minute timeout, maybe we. think about rebuilding. Okay. Is that. not something we the first people to. ever do this? >> No. >> And his fans, you know, obviously would. like to see the Jazz good. So, they, you. know, sometimes people are trying to put. in the air like Ryan Smith, bad owner, bad owner. He takes over the worst team. in the NHL in the Phoenix Coyotes. They. come up to Utah year or two, they're in. the playoffs and they might be the. Golden Knights. I mean, it is a.

spectacular story happening up there in. Salt Lake City, but it's also incredible. vibes over in Las Vegas for what the. Golden Knights, they're already an. established great fan base. The NHL. playoffs are delivering on all fronts, con. >> Yeah. And all all the teams that are. still in it, they all are like kind of. big markets right now. You know, talking. about the Canadians and the Lightning, the Canadians haven't been in it for so. long. And that series is damn near. guaranteed to go seven. They'll probably. go to overtime again tonight. But. Penguin Flyers, you know, Boston and. Buffalo, like there are a couple series. in a couple teams I think the NHL would.

love to see continue on. Like Boston and. Buffalo. Buffalo is going to be the best. environment probably going forward. And. then the Mammuth, you you mentioned it. Utah, those two, >> that's not their name. And they're still. trying to build their brand. >> The Mam [laughter]. Mimuth I think plays I I think Mammoth. is probably what the O Canada crowd. would would be saying up there if I had. to guess. the Utah mammoth. But still, either way, ts up like. >> I mean, you're right. Cuz a bootact. buddy. >> How do you guys say mammoth up there in. Canada? Gumpy, how how would uh how.

would you guys reference that? >> Utah mammoth. >> Yes. >> Yeah. Boom. Mammoth. Sorry. >> Are you saying that because of Connor. who's not a Canadian? Are are you saying. it more Canadian because an American was. telling you how a Canadian should maybe. think about saying it or are you. actually saying it? >> Yeah. Ever since the Coyotes left. Phoenix, it has been the Utah Mammoth. Yeah. And he has a little more on the a. too. The mammouth. I think that's the. difference. >> Probably lived in Canada, too. So, >> yeah. They were in that area. They found. the mammoose around there. >> Similar to the Manitoba moose, you know,

>> as well, you know, >> on that note, that's why we appreciate. what Buffalo did last night. >> Yes. >> Because the mules were roaming their. land and our land. An imaginary line. really divided us for a long time. >> Sabres. Yeah. >> And then it became a real line. >> And then they still do. And then I got. scared coming back into America more. than I got scared going to Canada. whenever I was underage kid going to the. casinos and the bars up there having a. time of my life right through Buffalo. >> That's Canada football. >> I was actually going through there. saying, "Oh,

and then coming back in you're like, "Oh. no, do we get everything out of every. bag?" Cuz they're going to check. everything before we can go back home. We live down here. We'll find out about. that. Open the trunk, take the keys out, empty the bags. Nick brought an entire. GNC purchase. >> Oh no. Nick went to GNC the day before. we came and said, "You know what? I'm. going to dump these into a bag, I. guess." Put them in his bag. We get. stuck coming back in because we can't. open our eyes. Obviously, we're. underage. What are you guys doing? Trying to go home. Uh, go ahead and open. your trunk and turn off. Great, Nick.

Way to go. Sing shotgun. Guy gets his. bag, >> opens it up in the back, pulls up this. bag of pills. Even I was alarmed. [laughter]. I look at Nick. What the was that? Get out of the car. Police come sit. inside. Jesus Nick. Why? This guy's got. a drug. GNC. Tells the guy GNC. >> GNC daily vitamins. >> Guy kind of a meatthead. Looks at it, cracks one open. >> Yeah. Okay. >> All right. >> He's right. >> He knew. >> Put us right back in the car. We got. back in there. That was every time we. came back into America. Going into. Canada. >> Green flag racing.

>> Go online. >> Go on little young drunk American who. wants to spend so much money. You can do. that. >> Have fun, buddy. >> It's a little different now, >> but maybe what happened in Buffalo, >> maybe that kind of unites us. >> It should, >> right? Don't we think? >> Oh, sports net's covering it. >> Sports does. >> Yeah, absolutely. Because I I think that. that broadcast how we show respect to. your country there. >> There you go. >> Okay. We had an opportunity right there. We had an opportunity. >> Oh yeah. >> Could have been a response. >> You know how how clever here the. Canadian national anthem doesn't work in.

America. Instead they sang that's a. beautiful thing. >> That is beautiful. >> That's a beautiful thing for our world. >> Good job. >> It is. And Buffalo is one of those. cities. I think most US cities worth. their salt would say, you know, we. respect Buffalo. If Buffalo's doing it, we we will co-sign them. >> They created a Buffalo wing. >> Pretty American, you know. That's right. >> Pizza, French fries, >> hot dogs, >> wings, >> America. >> Yeah. >> Fried chicken. >> Buffalo Soldier. >> Fried chicken is great. What else do we. got? apple pie.

>> Oh my god, we killed a game of that one. >> Yeah. >> What were they doing with with pies. before? Not that. >> I don't think at all. >> Burger King. >> God, we're the best. See, this is part. of the problem whenever people start. hating us. Like right now, Canada's. trying to maybe show appreciation and. then all of a sudden we just start. rattling off like we got it all. And. even we're going to claim Elon, too. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. So, we got spaceships, too. >> We got the entire thing. >> Bacon. Not stupid. Canadian bacon. >> True. >> Yeah. Exactly. Ham. Okay. We got what. you guys have. We call it ham. Now, granted, I will say. >> what you guys did with that ham. Perfect. for the egg McMuffin. >> I was going to say Canadian bacon is.

fire, but but it pales in comparison to. regular bacon. >> Yeah, agreed. I would much rather. >> Yeah. Right. Yeah. Exactly. >> But the egg McMuffin with a Canadian. bacon. >> top. >> That's maybe what? >> Yeah, I'm with you. Never had one, actually. >> Disgusting. >> You guys are choosing that over a. sausage McMuffin. >> It's just an option, boys. [laughter]. >> You've never had an Egg McMuffin? >> No. No, I have. Not with Canadian bacon. Sausage 100% of the time in my life. >> That is what the Egg McMuffin is. That. is just what it is.

>> Sorry, what? >> The Egg McMuffin is Canadian ham. >> No, it's sausage. >> No, it's not. Don't do that to. McDonald's. Don't do that, >> boys. >> Sausage, egg, and cheese. >> Guys, we're fighting the same fight. here. Okay, that's what Buffalo told us. last night. THAT'S WHAT BUFFALO TOLD US. LAST NIGHT. >> PUT AMERICAN SAUSAGE over can or under. Canadian bacon. >> No. So, I will double down on that. thing. I will certainly get a little. multiple meats on there. But the. Canadian bacon, aka ham with that egg.

How they perfectly cook it every single. time. And then that muffin. more of a a. croissant bun guy or a bagel guy. Not. really a muffin guy, but boy, McDonald's. muffin has that perfect crisp little. edge. A. >> little bit of cheese kind of hanging off. the side. >> Lightly buttered. >> And then I unwrap it. Yep. >> Put the wrap on the bottom of it. >> And it's just [clears throat] perfect. And that Canadian ham. >> Can't relate. >> I'm with you, bud. >> Yeah, the social issue is better.

[laughter]. >> It is. All right. I I will I will say I love. the sausage one. [laughter]. >> Yeah. >> You know what else they screw up? The. bloody mary. They have their version. The Caesar. >> You remember Caesar? They were they were. disgust. I'm. >> not a bloody mary guy. Bloody Mary. Molten triple XX and cheap vodka. Labot. >> No. If you ask you ask many people, they. prefer the Caesar over the Caesar. >> What's in the Caesar? >> They use clam juice instead of tomato. juice.

>> OH, CLAM JUICE. THIS PLACE SUCKS. >> CANADA. [laughter]. >> YEAH. Let's go back to before last. night. >> No. No. Last night told us the place was. good. >> Come on. What are we doing? >> They told No, no. We. >> Timmy Horton. King Timmy. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Timmy. Timmy host for sure. No. doubt about that. Double double. >> I mean, even when they started doing the. next song. I I think everybody thought, "Oh, wow. This second rendition is much. better than the first one they let off. with.". >> Okay. So, uh, let's follow up. Did the. Kings stop by your guys' country, too? Cuz I already stopped by our standing.

ovation. I like that. Did you stop back. to you guys? >> Oh yeah. >> Still owned. They're still paid. >> You ain't my king. >> We don't like guys. >> No. [laughter]. >> No, we don't. >> Okay. >> No. >> No way. Let's move along. >> Okay. >> Prince of insiding for the NFL. >> Mhm. >> At ESPN. [laughter]. >> Part of the royal family. >> Ladies and gentlemen, >> the king of my eyes. >> He once was. >> You better watch like this. You better. watch. >> He moved to a new manor. >> He did. >> The dog bites. Ladies and gentlemen,

[laughter]. he was once a duke. Now he he was once a. king. >> Now he finds a home. >> as prince of the royal inside family at. ESPN. Ladies and gentlemen, Ian Rapaort. >> What's up, Junior? >> What's up, guys? How you doing? Appreciate it, Pat. That was. >> That was something. That was something. >> Which part? What's going on? You talking. about Canada all the way in? Cuz I. thought that was a pretty smooth. transition. I was trying to figure out. how to get to you. king was the only way.

because you being prince now. First of. all, congratulations. >> Let's go rap. [cheering]. I appreciate you guys. I appreciate it. >> We are very proud of you. Uh genuinely, we think this is a great thing for ball. We think it's a great thing for ESPN. Uh. what does this mean for you actually and. how has it kind of been laid out on how. this will all work? Because we. understand that insighting is a team. game. We have been very fortunate and. lucky for our Sher relationship. He has. always shown up for us whenever since. we've come here to ESPN. Tai hosts a. podcast alongside of him. So, we've. gotten a chance to kind of see the inner.

workings of Insiding. And this feels. like a big deal with you two seemingly. coming to join the same team. Is that. how you're viewing it or how's this kind. of work? >> Yeah. Well, a couple things. First of. all, um I appreciate you guys very much. I mean, I've I'm It's good to be back on. here. Um and I appreciate the kind. words. I didn't really like the non-love. for the Bloody Mary. Um cuz I love. Bloody Marys, but it's that's a whole. different. >> We know you did a lot of boozing to get. to this deal. We understand. You got to. do what you got to do. Uh, yes. Not.

[laughter]. >> everything. Okay. Yeah. >> But Bloody Mary, drinking the line. >> Booz and boozing. >> GIVE ME BACK THE BALL. >> OKAY. [laughter] I know you are right. now. Um, >> well, we appreciate you and we're proud. of you. >> Well, thank you. Um, as far as how it. will work, my first of all, nothing has. been like laid out as far as what the. next 6 months are going to be like cuz. it's a transition and everyone's trying. to figure their way and kind of see. what's going to happen. My assumption. based on kind of what we've been told is. there's going to be a lot of things that. are going to look pretty similar. Like.

I'm still going to be on NFL Network a. lot. Um I'm still going to be doing our. shows with uh my guys Mike and Tom. Um. now like as far as like working with. Adam and first of all he has been great. in this whole process. Um, and a lot of. the, you know, I sort of, you never. quite know what to expect, but a lot of. the ESPN people I've encountered from. Burke Magnus, who's been awesome, all. the way on down, um, you know, guys like. Seth Markman, I mean, everyone's been. really, really good. Um, I'm excited to.

be here. However it happens, like. working with Adam, like, you know, I. like the team part of this. You know, I. like working with I like working with. Tom. I like working with Mike. I will. enjoy working with Adam because like. this is a hard world and it should be. fun and teamwork is fun and so like. whatever that gets however that happens. whatever the way that gets laid out like. I'm looking to have a lot of fun in the. next many years. >> We're happy for that. NFL Network. obviously not going anywhere. It's just. coming under a little bit new mannership. and I I think a little bit more support. coming in there as well as what has.

been. So I'm excited for that. relationship between ESPN and NFL. Network and how it continues to evolve. I'll tell you though, you and Chef have. a little bit different ways to go about. doing business. I'm excited for you guys. to kind of get in the same room. [laughter]. >> Yeah. >> We still have source offs. Need that. That can't go anymore. >> Yeah, we need source offs. >> We No, we can have them. Let's do it. It. just won't be me versus shifter. >> A. >> Oh, cuz there's other insiders. >> Yeah. >> This is Hey, Kevin Durant want to blow.

the state, pal. >> Okay. Brawn went down to the Heat. That. is what we're looking at here. Yeah, >> that that is a situation we have. And. then guess what? They're going to hang. banners, these boys. >> That's right. No doubt. Not one, not two, not three, >> not four or five. >> Going crazy. I'm wearing bronze right. now, actually. >> Nice. >> Thought he had a pretty good little. Thought he had a pretty good little. interview. >> Are we going to dedicate an hour to that. piece? That was a good piece by uh. Minman. >> What? What? >> Good piece. Brian. >> McMman.

>> Which one? >> Compared himself to Jordan. I mean, you. saw it all. >> He wasn't comparing himself to Jordan. asking others to not do it. We play. different games, dude. And you don't got. on me and normally I'm the one get. on me [laughter] entire thing. >> Wait, we're not allowed to compare them. now. >> JUST SHUT UP, REP. YOU JUST JOINED ESPN. DON'T DO IT. Don't Don't do this. You do. insiding. Okay, we don't need you to. start taking My bad. >> Why did you do you have a take on LeBron. vers Jordan now that you're an ESPN guy. rap sheet? Is that what you have? >> No, but I really should get one. >> Yeah, you better.

>> That's Yeah, I got to figure it out. right now. I really don't care, but I. I'll I'll figure it out. I'll get. something. >> You better get a source at the Cowboys, too. Quick. >> Yeah, you went down there. He Oh, I. already got one. He said, "Yeah, we. know. We know. We That's why you signed. that deal." Okay, let's talk about a. couple things that have happened around. the NFL, shall we? So, you can showcase. your gig. Uh Jawan Jennings visiting. with the Minnesota Vikings. Obviously, there's a situation with Brandon Aayuk. and the San Francisco 49ers. AJ Brown is. still looming. There's only been 12. receivers who had 15 touchdowns uh or.

more over the last two seasons. Uh 11 of. them are currently on teams. Jawan. Jennings is the only one not on a team. Coming off a career-high year where he. had nine touchdowns, career-high amount. of yards. He's also an absolute dog. Uh. I think I would love him on the Colts. Minnesota Vikings are interested. What's. going on with Jawan Jennings? Why is he. still available? Is this his choice or. team's choice? >> So we'll start with Jennings, then we'll. get to some of the other like I and all. of that. Now, with Jennings, like. there's a couple of these guys every. year where you have a price that you.

want to get to, and in free agency, for. whatever reason, um the the deal does. not come together. Either the price is. not right or they want a different. number of years, and you can either. really sign quickly, like we see a lot. of guys signing, you know, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, or you can wait. And. what he decided was just to wait. And. there are some teams in the draft who. are like, "All right, we're going to get. a receiver maybe second, third round.". And then if you don't, all of a sudden. you have a need. And so there's a couple. veterans like I would say like Naji. Harris is is one of those guys. Um you.

know, Jennings is another. There's a. couple of these guys that like didn't. quite get the deals they wanted and now. all of a sudden teams are like, "All. right, we gota we got to have them." So, my guess is generally when you have a. veteran player and an agent who's pretty. good like Drew Rosenhouse, they probably. already know what the deal is going to. be. So, if he's visiting, my guess is. he's at an okay place with the deal. So, if all checks out, like I wouldn't be. surprised if they signed him. And to me,

that would actually be a great great. spot for him and would be a good signing. for them. >> Tyler Murray [clears throat] at. quarterback. Jordan Addison just uh got. his fifth year option, I do believe. Dustin Jefferson still there. or Jawan. Jennings doing all the dirty work. >> That's a lot of good That's a lot of. good receivers right there. >> All of a sudden, you start thinking. maybe the Minnesota Vikings. Then you. look at the defensive side, it's like, well, they just trade their captain. away. Fascinating. Minnesota Vikings are. kind of in a interesting uh predicament. Speaking of interesting predicament, let's go to the San Francisco 49ers and. Brandon Iuk. What what what is going on. there? You know, cuz Lynch was basically.

like, we don't have to do anything. It. sounded like, but everybody's expecting. them to move on. >> from IU. How do you kind of see this. whole thing working out? This is like. kind of weird. Um, what I thought of is. like, you know, when you're like young. and you're like in high school and. you're talking to someone on the phone, let's say a girl on the phone and you're. kind of like, "All right, hang up. No, you hang up. No, you hang up." Kind of. like that. You know, that's like what. this is like because I think the 49ers. are kind of like, "Well, just trade for. him, right? I mean, he's he's got no.

guaranteed money left. He's do a big. number 27 or something like that, but. he's got no guaranteed money left cuz he. stopped showing up for rehab last year. and they took his guaranteed money away. And then if you're a team like let's say. the Commanders, you're like who has who. have interest, you're like, "Well, just. cut him. You're going to cut him. anyway." And the Niners are like, "We're. not going to cut him. You got to trade. for him." And then the Commanders are. like, "No, you're not. Just cut him.". And that's where we are. And so it's. like kind of like a funny little talk. about source off. This is like a. standoff. And so he's just kind of like. waiting and like, "All right, what are.

we going to do?" And then some one of. those things will happen. I just don't. know who's going to blink first. >> And what's the trade going to have to be. for? Like a seventh or a sixth or a. fifth? Cuz it feels like. >> nothing. Yeah. And then he would have to. redo. The reason why Aayuk would have to. be involved is the commanders wouldn't. take on his huge contract. They'd pay. him a lot less and then he'd be able to. capitalize like in other ways or it'd be. a one-year deal, whatever it is. But. he'd have to adjust his contract. So. that goes to a one year $15 million. deal. >> I mean that would be a lot but my guess.

is it would be less but yes like it. something like that. He'd have to adjust. his contract to do the deal. >> Okay. Colts I mean we get brand one year. 10 mil. >> Yeah he'll want to come. >> N. >> HE'LL WANT TO COME. >> SPEAK FOR COLTS Nation on this one. No. We're fine. >> All right. >> Take you on. >> What about Kevin Durant for the Pacers? >> Nope. >> What? >> What? >> I get that one. >> Oh yeah, I get that one too. cover. play. >> No, I get the value. Yeah. Yeah. [laughter]. >> All right. That was a great comparison.

You're really throwing a basketball. first day at ESPN. You hang out. >> You hang up. >> That was good rap. >> It's the only thing I can think of. I'm. sorry, but I just It's It's literally. what it is. It's bizarre. >> You're so clever. You're so funny what. you do. >> That was pretty good. I agree. >> Yeah, it was pretty good. Let's get. another update, shall we? Go ahead, Debb. >> Yeah. Denver Broncos, their quarterback, Bo Knicks, we all remember the injury. late in the playoffs. What's the update. on him and his ankle? Yeah. So, he had surgery, had another. procedure, I think it was last night or. yesterday. Went down to see Dr. Waldrup.

uh in Birmingham, Alabama. It used to be. Andrews, now this is kind of like the. next really good foot and ankle guy. Um. so, basically a little bit of a kind of. a clean out kind of just make sure it. was healthy, get some stuff out of. there. Um, and just, you know, I think. when when he had it most recently. examined after the obviously fractured. ankle, um, they thought, all right, maybe there's going to be another. surgery just to make sure it's healing. properly and to clean some stuff up. So, that's what happened. You're not going. to see him very much at OTAAS or mini.

camp, which like honestly, who cares? Um, but I would expect him to be ready. for training camp or very close to. training camp. So, like it's, you know, second surgery sounds bad. I don't. really think this is that bad. that's. kind of more like Dak had the same thing. um when he was coming back from his. ankle and went on to play great. Like I. don't think this is a it's a thing, but. I don't think it's anything that's going. to derail his season or anywhere close. >> Okay. Uh we hope Bo Knicks is obviously. back under center. What a special run. they went on. That was a.

>> just a rude ending to a season. I I I. would say a rude ending to a team that. went on a run and what a fortuitous. bounce for the New England Patriots as. they make. >> I wish I would have seen how it would. have ended like how it would have ended. if he was you know what I mean like. >> I mean that Patriots defense was so good. they were so good out there but they. didn't have to play anybody make it all. the way to the Super Bowl. They didn't. have to play anybody. >> Yeah. top top five defense actually the.

most top five defenses in one uh playoff. run in the history of the NFL. >> and they're focused on ball now right. >> that's all we're focused on baby that's. it we don't have to hope we've heard. from the players. >> all right well the Patriots potentially. in for a wide receiver trade post June 1. is what we're hearing there might be. another wide receiver that is currently. available on the market as well ahead. con man. >> yeah rap sheet speaking of standoff. George Pickkins seems to be in a. standoff with a pen because he has not. signed the franchise tag yet even though. it's reported he did and then and. intended to and he actually has not.

signed it yet. Do you think he's playing. for the Cowboys? Is it safe to assume. he's playing for the Cowboys or is this. a situation where he might actually sign. it but then get moved immediately? What's your read on this entire. situation? >> Okay, a couple things. So, he has told. the Cowboys that he intends to sign it. Now, I think it's, you know, it's a. weird thing because we all imagine like. them faxing him or whatever people do. Emailing him a piece of paper. I don't. know why I said fax. emailing him a. piece of paper and then just signing it.

But it's actually a little different. You tell them, "Hey, we intend to accept. this. >> and then like eventually you physically. sign it." I think after like a physical. So like he is accepting the the. franchise tag. So to me not physically. signing it is not that big of a deal. Um. I would be surprised if he's traded, but. I wouldn't be like beyond stunned. because I've seen this before, right? Like I the Cowboys have been adamant. they do not intend to trade him. Steven. Jones has said on the record he is going.

to be playing for them and I agree that. is the most likely scenario but everyone. has a price and there is a possibility. that someone could say you know what I'm. going to send a what would be a good. price a two for George Picket. The. problem is that's for next year. So if. you're a good team trying to be good. this year that actually doesn't help. you. So trades for franchise players are. really hard and usually they happen. before free agency and before the draft. so you can replace him and that hasn't. happened. So my guess is he's playing.

for the Cowboys, plays great and then. next year either signs a huge deal with. the Cowboys or walks and signs a massive. deal somewhere else. >> Okay, I like to hear that. >> Especially if George Pickkins gets an. opportunity to play under a franchise. tag, we assume uh it's going to be. showtime every single time he steps out. there. Not that it hasn't been his. entire career, but we're just saying a. little bit of a bag driven season is. could be great for George Pickkins and. Dallas Cowboys and us as fans. They can. franchise tag him again though, can't. they? >> They can. Yeah. Uh and.

>> that's a big that's a big commitment by. George Pickings if he was to do the one. year under the franchise tag because. then they can just run that thing back. and do it the second year under the. franchise tag as well. So then he's. actually two years out. But also, if he. wants to be a Cowboy and enjoys his time. with the Dallas Cowboys and he's played. his best ball with the Dallas Cowboys, maybe he'd be willing to do one year and. then hopefully they sign him after. That's an interesting. >> rap. Rap just said that he thinks he's. going to be playing under the franchise. >> I know. >> That's what I just heard right there. Right. >> You would know better than me being a.

former franchise player, how much. players hate. >> I signed that thing as soon as I could. I [laughter] was told I was getting $2.4. million guaranteed. Give me that thing. Much different situation for George. Pickkins and and everybody else. >> Yeah. and he's, you know, entering the. prime. And what you want is long-term. commitment moneywise for these wide. receivers, especially what the market is. for wide receivers at the top of the. market. And the big difference is. playing on the tag. The tag is what 27. >> uh right. >> Yeah. Something like I think 274 or. something like that. Yeah.

>> And the top of the market is 40 now. So. with with Chase and those other deals. that have been done and he's playing his. best ball and he got to actually. showcase everything that he can do in. this Dallas offense with Dak Prescott. because coming into this that last. season like I thought he was a good. receiver. I didn't know he had all the. things that he has in his bag as far as. you know his route tree being able to. play in the slot his run after catch. like when he was in Pittsburgh it was a. lot of him lined up at X and running. deep balls but to kind of have Yeah. To. kind of have that full route. Yeah. So.

>> he blocks guys. He was long-term commit. I know people, you know, and. >> we hear stories and about him maybe. being a head case or what's going on. between the ears. Do you trust him. giving that type of money, but I don't. remember him being any like real. trouble, you know, off of the field. So, um I mean, I hope he gets his money. He. He's He's earned it. >> It seems like his trouble is like he is. uh I want the ball and I want us to win. And uh I'll tell you what, I know a lot. of wide receivers that are like that. Yeah. And uh the offenses that he was. playing for in Pittsburgh whenever he.

was saying a lot of these things were. statistically and optically ass. terrible. >> Yeah. You know what I mean? Like the uh. they were actually chanting fire Canada. all over the place because of how lame. it was. >> Historically, especially with that. position. Um you know, you pay you know. wide receiver once and if they aren't. being successful or things aren't going. their way, you can become a cancer in. that locker room. when you become one of. the highest paid players in your cancer, when you want to be like a pillar guy, um you can run into trouble. I'm not. saying that these are the things that.

George Pickkins is, but this is what. people around. >> worried about giving the deals to. >> Absolutely. >> Yeah. You you put a lot of money to. somebody that's potentially not like the. greatest. >> uh positive influence for your entire. team as a whole. That's where everybody. looks at like who's getting rewarded. Those are the people getting the money. That is what I'm going to try to do. here. You're 100% right. Now granted, on. that note, do I think Dak Prescott will. ever let George Pickkins get pissed? because it's all kind of hit on him, right? >> Yeah. On who gets the ball, who doesn't. get the ball. Uh. >> kind of because defense you could you.

could just shade them. You saw some. games you saw some games where people. like, "Oh, he's not running routes." Cuz. sometimes as a wide receiver, you see. the safety shaded over top like, "Okay, I'm not getting the ball here. Let me. just kind of halfass this route." You. know, all receivers don't do that, but. you can kind of get taken out of the. game. And then as a defender, like I. give Brandon Marshall for an example. For us as defenders coming into the. game, we're like, "Hey, take 15 out. early. At some point in the middle of. the first quarter, second quarter, you're going to see him on the sideline. Do Hudson, Josh McDaniels, or whoever it. is the head coach or play caller is.".

You're like, "Okay, got him." So that's. what you want. So can you stay. encouraged? Can like Justin Jefferson, don't matter who's playing quarterback, how much production he's running routes. full speed. He's doing his thing. >> If you don't stop Brandon Marshall. early, he'll have 20 some receptions. That happened. he gets going early to. like those type of receivers, they get. going early, it gets ugly for you. But. if you take them out early, you it can. possibly impact that whole game. >> So, and team, but on that note, it feels. like uh Dak has probably warranted a lot. of trust and respect potentially from. George Pickkins like, hey, if I don't.

get you some days, we will definitely. get you the ball later. It's a big deal. Wide receivers are dependent on a lot of. other things and they are judged harshly. on a lot of little things. So, it's like. they know exactly what they're going to. be judged upon. Okay, yards, touchdowns, championships. Okay, that's what the. wide receivers are going to be judged. upon. And it's like there's a lot of. other things that have to happen for. them to get anything. And that's why you. hear AJ like, >> you know, AJ Brown's like, "Yeah, I need. the ball, right?". >> Okay. Like this is what everybody has. told me I'm going to be judged upon. So,

let's go ahead and make that happen. It's like, uh, that wide receiver. position is an interesting one cuz it. feels like. >> all the ones that are I mean, I guess. Justin Jefferson, but he he'll have 180. yards in the first half every once in a. while. Mhm. >> But all the guys that are at like the. top, they want the ball. They. That's why they're there. That's why. they're in the NFL. >> Yeah. And for like Jerry as well and the. Cowboys, it's like, hey, we kind of saw. this experiment already with the. Cincinnati Bengals where you pay two. guys, wide receiver, one money. And like. granted, the Bengals had injuries and. Joe Burrow went down and stuff up. Like. there's a reason that their defense has.

been not so great the last few years. because they just haven't had the money. for it. >> Okay. Uh let's pivot away from the. Dallas Cowboys. Shout out to us. We did. LeBron and Jordan. [laughter]. We did Dallas Cowboys. We're ratings. >> Yeah. Well, ESPN baby, you know, ESPN. baby. I don't know about our ratings. I. don't know about our ratings. >> Some of some of the stuff we talk about. everybody else talks about. We We. actually I think see a little bit of a. dip. >> Sure. >> I think the OG digital fans are like, "Nope, you sell out. >> We're not doing it. >> We will turn it off. Check back in.". Still doing it. >> Come on.

>> The other day we're doing LeBron and. Jordan for what, like 11, 12 minutes? >> 10 10 15. >> Think about the amount of times people. are checking back in. Come on, dude. [laughter]. >> Come on. have to do it. Cowboys are a. big time story. Dak Prescott looked. light walking into that building. Okay, let's pivot away from the Dallas Cowboys. and let's talk about some contract. stuff. Go ahead, Ty. >> Yeah, she uh just curious. We saw. yesterday that the Lions are not going. to exercise the fifthear option on Jack. Campbell. Is there any potential changes. coming to this whole formula? cuz we saw.

it again with Linderbomb last year where. it was basically like hey listen we want. to resign you but it financially it. doesn't make sense at the number that. you would be you know franchised for and. then kind of the same thing here with. Jack Campbell and it kind of just opens. the door for a shittier team to maybe. overpay for one of these guys like are. there any changes coming to this uh. potentially or is it kind of just it. works so the formula is going to stay. the same? >> This is a great question. I think about. this stuff all the time and there's. there's not that many examples like Jack. Campbell's awesome obviously Linder Bomb.

was awesome but just like positionally. it didn't make sense and I'm sort of. like can we just fix this so every. position has one like we're like as a. collective football world like we're. smart enough to figure this out. Um, it. would have to be in the new CBA. Like, this would have to be a a topic that the. NFL and the NFL PA, uh, which are. several years away from a new CBA unless. they decide to do it earlier with the TV. deals, but, um, several years away from. from taking a look at it. But, like, it.

makes sense that somebody could figure. out like a center should have his own. franchise tag, a guard should have his. own franchise tag, or they could just do. away with the franchise tags, which, you. know, teams would never do. Um, and then. just everyone just could get just paid. whatever. But like for a couple of these. guys, it just doesn't make sense. Like. off the ball linebackers or like outside. linebackers who aren't rushers, like. sucks for them, but you know, no t no. fifth year option. On the other hand, you know, Jack Campbell is going to be. in a contract year and like probably.

going to make a huge ton of money anyway. because he is an awesome football. player. But that's a good question. That's classic [clears throat] like. tight end who has a 100 receptions and. only is down on the line like 3% of the. snaps. He's a tight end though. We're. paying him like a tight end. >> That's also ridiculous. Yes. >> Yeah. That happens all the time. You. know, it's uh just like a running back. who potentially also plays slot. It's. like nope. Running back. Oh, actually. he's a returner. Yeah. This guy's. actually This guy's actually. >> with TJ back in the day. They were like, you're a linebacker. You're not an edge. You're not a defensive end. Like but.

who did that? >> The whole league. No, but was it the. Steelers doing that? What's going on. with the Steelers, Ian? >> Business. >> Making up tags. >> It is good business. >> Well, yeah, we we're using a Alpha. >> Yeah, >> an off last year. >> They're using the alpha tag. I mean, ain't nobody ever heard of Alpha. >> The Hall of Famer. Show him some. respect. MORE MONEY. >> 23 22 years. >> putting the Alpha on them. What What. does this mean rap in your eyes? What do. you think ends up happening inevitably.

with the Aaron Rogers Steelers. situation? >> Well, two things. One, I would say. overall, this probably doesn't affect. what ends up happening. Like, I have not. thought he was going to play anywhere. else besides the Steelers. I've never. thought money was going to be an issue. So, if he wants to play, he'll probably. play for the Steelers and he'll probably. play for similar to last year. So, like. in the end, I don't think it has that. much to do with anything. But, it is. weird. Like I saw this yesterday and I. was kind of like, huh? Like it makes.

sense. I guess if you're allowed to sort. of like I guess loosely retain the. rights of a player who you like but. hasn't signed, I guess it makes sense to. do it. It's just like to do it to Aaron. Rodgers, you just never quite know how. he's going to react to things, right? And so like. this was very it was very interesting. I. don't think he's going to be like, "All. right, well, screw those guys. I'm. done." But it does limit him a little. bit because, you know, if he wants to. just not sign and go, you know, sign.

with with someone who loses a. quarterback in week two, it either makes. it much harder or impossible. >> We've heard impossible, but I guess it. could be a work. >> Impossible is right. It's honestly, it's. complicated. It really is. >> Well, I guess what Aaron would probably. have to do is sign with the Steelers and. they would have to trade him to that. team or whatever, which would probably. become uh. >> uh Yes, I think that's right. >> Okay. I'm just piecing that together in. real time. Shout out me. Love everything. that did there in my ears. Thank you. brain for doing that. Uh but you're. right about who knows how he's going to.

take this because we are so confused by. almost disrespected for him and then you. like look into it. It's like Steelers. just trying to get a compensatory pick. if he was to play anywhere else. This is. also them making a public announcement. of a formal offer to him. This is what. we want and also would like to have him. here. So there's a lot of things the. Steelers could say like hey we we kind. of had to do this. Like this is kind of. something we had to do. And I assume. Aaron understands that. And maybe we'll. see him slinging a pill for the Steelers. once again. >> Maybe. >> Oh, mama.

[singing]. >> They put the era on them. Dude, they. did. >> I heard that song so many times in I. came back like singing it. It's I mean, it's ridiculous. Sticks are legendary. >> You're singing sticks. >> Oh no, my life is really terrible. >> Not a good song again. I sing renegade. all day. I'm not a renegade. I'm kind of. a kind of a junior. >> Junior. Bit of a junior. >> All right. ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT. All. right. >> Country club champ. >> We appreciate you, dude. Congrats,

[laughter] Junior. Congrats. Super proud. of you. >> Thank you guys. Appreciate you guys for. everything. I am extremely pumped for. all of this. Cannot cannot wait. >> You're the greatest, ladies and. gentlemen. That's irreappable. >> Yep. >> All right, Junior. >> Deuce. >> Yeah. Yeah. Big deuce. >> Ladies and gentlemen, let's go from a. junior to a senior. >> Wow. >> From the league to the association. Ladies and gentlemen, it's time to go.

ahead and get it all in a nice quick. bite. >> Yeah. See. [music]. dive. [singing]. What's going on in hoops? We don't need. a [music] deep dive. >> and a baby GO. >> senior NBA insider for ESPN. A lot. happening around the NBA. Shams, we. appreciate you taking the quick time to.

let us know what's happening over there. in your world. Okay, we're not tanking. anymore. We're not tanking anymore is. what's happening. They know that that's. a big deal. There was a 25point spread. this season. There was numerous games. where people would pay their hard-earned. money to go watch and their team was. clearly trying to not win. There was a. lot of teams doing it this year. You ask. the owners of the teams that were doing. that, they're saying, "Are we tanking or. we trying to rebuild here?" It's not. easy to rebuild a team. Free agency is. basically dead, especially with the. Stars, unless you can trade for them, and they're picking where they want to.

go. And if you can't get a top four, top. five pick, you're not going to get a. pillar. So, all we can get is try a top. one, two, three pick. The lottery is the. only way to do it. That's what ownership. says from the teams that are seemingly. losing on purpose. The winning teams. say, "Why aren't you trying? What is. this going to do? How is this going to. change the game? And are we done with. tanking over there in the NBA? >> The the NBA hopes so. This is Adam. Silver's crack at trying to basically. deincentivize losing. And you know, the. the term relegation is the one to keep.

an eye on right now. It's the NBA's. This is their version of their of. relegating uh the bottom teams in the. NBA. And so in all of American pro. sports, the NBA has now if once this is. implemented May 28th in an owner's vote, They'll be the first league in American. Pro sports to penalize the bottom teams. in the draft or town. uh acquisition. It's not that you can't. acquire players or can't build through. the draft. It's just if you're openly.

trying to be at the bottom or if you are. at the bottom, you're going to be. punished by it by losing lottery balls. So basically in this format, if you're a. bottom three team, you will have two. lottery balls. If you're four through. 10, you actually have three lottery. balls. So, in a lot of ways, if you're 1. through three, you're incentivized to. win more in at least enough that you're. not at the bottom. So, you're going to. be trying to win. And then if you're 4. to 10, your goal is to try to win so you. don't get out uh get get sent to the.

relegation zone. So, this is the NBA and. and I I was told and I said on Get Up. this morning, Adam Silver had a call a. couple weeks back and he told the. owners, he was very forceful with the. owners. Not going to lie, there was a. couple fbombs in there and he told uh. whether it was owners, GMs, everyone, you should hate to lose. Losing should. be uncomfortable. People are now taking. as a badge of honor. And so this is the. NBA. They are trying to take the step to. crack down on this. And it a lot of. people might look at this as rad a.

radical approach uh as as an. overcorrection in a lot of ways of. what's happened in Utah and other. leagues. So this is something that's. obviously going to have major impact not. only this year but years to come. >> There are two elements of this pad. I do. want to point out this now means moving. forward you can't pick number one. backto-back years and you can't have a. top five pick in three consecutive. years. So that means teams like the San. Antonio Spurs right now with WMY, Stefon. Castle, Bill Harper wouldn't exist. A. team like Oklahoma City back in the day.

with KD and all those guys wouldn't. exist. the Rockets right now with the. Men Thompson, Reed Shepard, Alpurn Sang, Jabari Smith Jr. wouldn't exist under. this new policy. So, this is the NBA. trying to basically. >> um say f you to teams that are trying to. lose. >> All right. Thank you, Shams. That was a. [music]. >> drive. What's going on? We don't need a deep. [music]. need. What's going on in hoops? We don't need.

a deep [singing] dive. Yeah. >> All right. We're not actually going to. kick you off here. [laughter] That would. have been funny if we just send God your. way right there. Okay. So, fun fun. little question here. Uh the bottom. three teams uh get a lesser chance to. get the number one overall pick than. four through 10. Uh in theory, that. makes sense. What if the bottom three. teams are actually asked though? Boom. Like what if. >> this is the dumbest thing of all time. I. agree. >> No, because I think they're saying that. the teams who have been to bottom three. over the last however many years, I. would assume that they've researched. this. Those teams were trying to do. that. like they were trying to become.

the bottom three teams. So, they're. trying to get rid of the attempt at. becoming worst team in the NBA. But what. if you are just the assiest ass team and. put the ass in association of the NBA. for multiple times in a row? Like what. happens if that happens? Cuz I assume. people are going to be. >> What happens in soccer? What happens in. soccer? Don't you get relegated to. another league like Adam? >> Soccer. >> Soccer's been going on for like a. hundred years over there. 150 years over. there. >> There's like a thousand. >> Adam Silver has taken a lot of models. from the soccer. You think about the.

playin tournament, the inseason. tournament, there's been a lot of like. crossover at least from an idea. >> So, what are they going to do? They're. going to kick these teams out of the. league, Doug. That's. >> you're not you're not really going to. get relegated to the GLeague, although. that might be what's you know, I had a. couple people like you might relegate, >> you know, so and so to the to to to the. G- League, but I think what it is is you. Yes, it's it's punishing teams that are. losing. Like, there's now going to be a. level of punishment, a level of. penalization that goes to the team that. are at the bottom. And so a lot of. teams, there are teams, right? Like.

Sacramento went into the year trying to. compete and be competitive. They just. had a bunch of injuries and they just. weren't. The Dallas Mavericks went into. this season trying to be good, trying to. be competitive with AD. They had. injuries. They pivoted. They went to. another direction and they just weren't. good. And so I think there's going to be. teams like that. There's going to be. unintended consequences. There's going. to be teams that that end up uh getting. the number one pick that might be the. 10th seed that, you know, maybe people. will feel like, hey, this team didn't. really deserve or need the talent.

>> and a team that really isn't good. So, there's going to be a lot of randomness. in all this. And all 16 picks are going. to be from a lottery drawing. And so, that means 15, 16, 14, 13 with flat. odds, they could in theory bump up to 1, two, or three. >> Wow. What what did Adam say about. Giannis getting traded in this whole. thing? >> Uh I don't know if the NBA is coming NBA. trade. >> I don't know. Uh all right, [laughter]. let's do quick. Austin Reeves is back. tonight. Yes,

>> Austin Reeves is expected to play. tonight. From everything I'm hearing, all signs point to him playing tonight. unless there's some setback that he has. He's now about four weeks removed from a. grade two oblique strain. Um he's gone. through all of his progressions. One-on-. ones, three on threes, five ones, multiple times. Um he was basically a. game time decision the last couple. games, but they were up 2, then they. were up 3 0 and they decided to sit him. out. He wanted a little bit more time, but he is on the way back. Big boost for. this team. He's obviously a star.

all-star for this team uh in his role. with Luca Donic. We're still a little. bit ways away from Luca Donuch though. >> Okay, a little bit away from Luca. Donuch, but Austin Reeves and LeBron. play very well together, right? That. should go swimmingly. We don't think. there'll be any issues on how the Lakers. are on the floor. >> No. And this is the exact piece that. they need. They need, you know, it's. crazy when you're without Luca and. Austin Reeves. You you you know, you. need at least one of those guys to be. ball handling for you. Shot creation. So. much of that onus has been on LeBron the. other night. I think he had what 10. points um eight turnovers or whatever.

Like he's had a lot of responsibility. and he's done great over the three. games, the first three games of the. series, leading this team to a three-0. series lead. Now Austin Reeves on his. way back. This this they actually need. Austin Reeves really bad right now. >> Yeah, I'd say every team if they get an. all-star back, they would certainly want. that. Uh Magic Pistons tonight. This is. going to happen, huh? The Stones, the. number one seed in the East, are just. about to get kicked out by Orlando. Is. that what we're expecting tonight? Any. any news on anything we should know. other than France Vagner? >> Fron Vagner, I can report right now. I.

literally just got a text. Um he is not. expected to play. Fron Vagner right now, as of this moment, is not expected to. play. He's got a calf strain. uh right. calf strain and you know anytime you. talk about calves those are tricky. injuries and Paulo Beno actually said at. shoot around this morning that he. doesn't think uh Fran Vagner goes. tonight that they should be careful with. this calf injury and so yeah they built. this 3-1 series lead but now you could. be without uh and likely are without. your your star forward here in France.

Vagner we'll see if they can get the job. done I'm sure as as you see right there. with no Fran Vagner the the Pistons uh. you know are probably favored today. >> yeah I They certainly are. Raptors, Cavs, anything in that game that we need. to think of before we bet it? >> This is a big game for the for the Cavs. Like, they need to take care of bit. I've talked to a bunch of people around. the situation. Like, they need to win. this game. Obviously, get back control. of this series. Uh Toronto's playing. with a lot of momentum. Cleveland should. have had game four and so Toronto's. playing with a lot of momentum momentum.

Big comeback win. They've tinkered with. their lineup a little bit. Uh they they. they played their their center Murray. Boils a lot more at the five essentially. reduced the role of Yakob Purle. So uh I. do think Toronto's going to be coming in. with some momentum. >> Thank you. You're the man. That's senior. NBA insider at ESPN with a drive by a. sweet hot. >> Congrats rap sheet. Congrats to Rap. Sheet. I do have to say congrats. He's. Ian Ian's a good friend. Good dude. >> You and Ian know each other for a long. time. Look at you now. Both just sitting.

there in the kingdom. I mean, we're in different parts of the. kingdom. I'm in the back office, you. know. I'm in the back office in the. dark. >> Oh, no. Look at that. >> Laptop blaring with the brightness. >> I like that. >> My eye is probably getting strained. >> Yeah, I like that. You look good. You. got a good tie today. You've been. sitting on the studio shows in the. morning. Looking really good. Posture is. phenomenal. Great. >> Yeah, posture is phenomenal. Also, talking to Greeny and then talking to. camera and then back to Greeny. >> Be concise. >> It's kind of like you're kind of.

directing that thing. You're the man. Congratulations. [laughter]. We appreciate you. That's Sham Shan. What's going [music] on in a deep. [singing]. hoops? We [music] don't need a deep. dive. >> Every time. It is pretty deep though. It's a deep end of the pool. It's me. coming off that thing with Miami. >> Yeah. Isn't it? It's hard not to. subject. >> Yeah. Well, it's hard not to talk about. the tanking situation cuz that's a lot.

>> Yeah. >> Yeah. Especially when they come up with. a stupid change. Yeah. >> Especially when it's the possibly the. dumbest thing you've ever seen in the. history of things to be suggested. >> It it it does leave for me. >> It does leave out the teams that are. just like. >> just bad ass. >> Several of those teams. >> Also, the the worst team should get the. first pick because the the best player. is going to make the worst team better. Like if Cooper flag goes to the worst. team, they're not going to be the worst. team. >> Utah. >> the next year. Yeah. Well, Utah will. probably get it this year because they.

are the exact team who has had the. lowest odds but have never been in the. top five. >> I like that it's this is the last year. of it cuz the Pacers are dancing down. here. >> Yeah, exactly. >> Last year ever. Maybe maybe Pacers steal. number one. >> I do like how aggressive Silver is with. his changes though. He's like I don't. like what's going on. >> I'm changing it. >> Yeah. >> Lowest three can't. Yeah. To hell with. him. >> Make it like soccer. >> in season. >> Yeah. Sean's the big word here. Relegation. >> What Sean's What's it mean? >> I [laughter] don't know. soccer doesn't. matter. We'll see you next hour. Goodbye.

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directly in the heart and kill them and. move on. First time long time but in. overtime pasta hi hits the brakes little. bit of dangle. How you doing? Keep it. moving. stares at the crowd as he's. celebrating. The NHL showing up every. night for us. The NBA also doing the. same. Tonight, the Lakers are playing. That means LeBron James. And he probably. by most accounts has Austin Reeves back. joining him and his boy and many others. who have certainly taken the Rockets to. task even though the Rockets coming off. their only win of the series. Kevin.

Durant still injured. He would not be. playing for the Rockets. Obviously, that. has been a massive piece of the story. Cavaliers James Harden. What? >> Yeah. >> Mhm. Spider, >> it's a big game. >> Hey, >> huge. >> James Harden in Cleveland is a little. story that has not been talked about at. all. Obviously, alongside Donovan. Mitchell, who's a superstar and the. Cleveland Cavaliers last year were. supposed to be the team. They lose to. the Celtics or to the Pacers in. back-to-back years, whatever the case. Cavs always been good. They bring in. James Harden. James Harden fully. committed. >> James Harden playing great basketball.

for the Cleveland Cavaliers. Obviously, that series is tied. And then the. Pistons are. >> about to get their. >> dog walked out. Yeah, >> Stones need to go. >> Need one Stones. Yesterday I was bummed. out. Today we got a little slice of. optimism. No, Fron Vagner. I think we. can win this one tonight, boys. >> As a reporting, somebody's going to miss. a game because of an injury. Don't need. you on a microphone going, "Yes.". >> Remember, Fron has a family. >> Yeah. Sorry, Fron. That was on me. I'm. just a Pistons fan here needing a little. bit of hope here. You have been the best. player in the series by far and away.

You being out tonight is absolutely. huge. >> Thank you for making up for it there. Uh, one half of the hammer down. Cowboys. AP tone. What did you say? Uh the spread. on two of those games are interesting. Uh the Stones being 9 and 1/2 point. favorites when they are down 3-1 is. interesting. >> 10 and a half with. >> 10 and a half is interesting. And then. the Cavs that series being 22 and that. one being 8 and a half is also very. interesting. It's still like hey we're. going off these teams and the regular. season and not what we have seen in the. postseason. These feel like regular. season lines, but I could be super super.

wrong. It's just they're those are heavy. lines for t for series that are you're. either down or tied. >> Okay. So who are you? Uh if. >> I think I'm going to go with the dogs. tonight and as I say that the favorites. will cover but you know that's just what. I'M THINKING. >> NO TONY hunting a crown. >> I wouldn't say NBA is my best betting. sport. >> Yeah well I don't think any sport is uh. my best betting sport other than bowl. Been watching a UFFL nine NFL vet Darius. Jay Butler. Hey what UFFL team is really. the one that has got you captivated the. most? >> I mean it seems like it's the DC.

defenders kind of title loose. You know. on a four game win streak right now. >> Yeah but who else? I'm a Houston Dynamos. guy. >> You like the Houston Dynamos? I don't. think that's their name. Houston Dynamo. and the ML. The Houston Gamblers is the. team you were talking about. Todd Haley, I believe, is the offensive coordinator. for the Houston. >> I thought he was a Columbus Aviator. >> No, I I think Ted Gin is with the. Aators. >> But didn't he stop in and be the. >> Oh, yeah. You're right. Todd Al is with. the Aviators. Yeah, I love everything. he's about. Uh the Orlando Storm.

second. Are you second place? Yeah, they. are in second place. That's a good call. Dallas Renegades, they're uh currently. sitting in third. They got three wins. and two losses. A lot of parody in this. league. St. Louis Battlehawks uh three. and two. They're tied obviously with the. Dallas Renegade. Louisville Kings, they're kicking off Kentucky Derby. weekend on Thursday night. Donn, >> you finally know the quarterbacks in. this league. >> Listen, I'm about I'm about done with. the UFFL fans or IWC.

>> Yeah. >> Who's leading the passing of UFFL? Anybody? DTR probably. Maybe Desmond Ritter. >> He's up there. I think. >> Desmond Ritter's in the UFFL. >> Oh, yeah. >> Okay. All right. Desmond play for. >> I saw Austin Reed play. You guys know. him? Remember him? >> Oh, Western Kentucky. >> Yeah. And former before that? >> Tony. >> Oh, Western Florida. This guy doesn't. know ball. UFFL fans, get him. [laughter]. >> Jason, great player. Kansas former Colt, obviously. No takebacks. Obviously,

UFFL. We're in on the UFFL and then we. all said we hope it does well. >> and I'm taking mine back. >> What? >> No takeback. I just did. >> You don't want to do Well, >> you want a dreaded Repi? >> You can't do that. >> What about Repley Farms Stables? >> And I know that I'm saying this and Repi. see and he's and he all he's thinking is. bingo. Exactly. I need more doubters. So. I I think I'm helping Repl. >> Okay. So you you're motivating Rep. >> Exactly. Yeah. And that's why I'm taking. it back. We will say the co-owner of the.

UFFL has been on the record of stating, "I'll go bankrupt for this league.". >> Exactly. >> And uh we're gonna hope that that. doesn't happen. We hope that UFFL does. well for the good of football and also. for the good of gambling during the. spring on something that we understand. because the NBA is very fascinating to. gamble on. The NHL tough. >> Yeah, very tough. Empty netters at the. end are deciding so many things in NHL. every single night. Obviously MLB first. five we can get a chance. What teams are. good right now in MLB? Obviously, I know. the Cincinnati Reds last night earned.

all of their fans that were in the. stadium some free pizza. They said 325. people won free pizza last night. Are. the Reds on fire right now? >> Yes, the Reds are actually very good. The NL Central, which the is the. division that the Pirates are in, is. probably you could argue is the best. division in baseball right now. I think. they're a couple games over 500. They're. a couple games over 500, would be. leading multiple other divisions. They. are in the cellar right now, but they're. playing good. Dodgers obviously very. good. Yankees very good. Padres's very. good. >> Show pitched last night yet again. He's.

doing a full season of pitching. They. haven't been having him play in the. field, right? Or I'm sorry, hit whenever. he pitches, but he's looking to do that. right now. >> Yeah, I think so. Last night uh was one. of the first times that they just wanted. him to focus on pitching and then they. end up losing 2-1. He takes the loss. even though he pitched unbelievably. well. And he basically just said like, "Hey, listen. I'm going to listen to. what the Dodgers want me to do. Obviously, me being healthy by the time. the playoffs comes around is the most. important thing. So, if they think this. is going to be more strain, like I'm. good with going out there and just. pitching on days when I'm slated to.

pitch. >> Can you put into uh perspective what a 6. erra is and what show Otani is to the. humans once again that maybe haven't. heard us? Uh glaze, I believe, would be, you know, we do a lot of show glaze. Otani around here cuz how could you not. with this guy? >> Yeah, I would say like a very good. seasonl long erra uh in the majors would. be any more probably like around three. So like that average like you're giving. up three runs per start or you know or. per however many innings you pitch. Him.

being around uh you know 6 is basically. saying like there's a good chance that. if this guy goes out and pitches it's. almost guaranteed that if he throws six. innings he's probably going to give up. zero earned runs or if he does like last. night you know by by comparison like. that maybe wasn't that great of a start. but that that's considered a quality. start. That's unbelievable. he gets the. loss, but it's yeah, pretty much I think. in his last 180 batters he's faced, he. hasn't given up a home run. Like he, you. know, that was kind of always the thing. that was dragging behind was, hey, this.

guy's pitching stuff is unbelievable, but for whatever reason, you know, he's. he's still kind of hit hit or miss there. because the hitters are so good, but. he's been absolutely lights out on the. bump. >> What's the best pitcher in in the league. called Sai Young? Yep. >> Is he potentially in Sai Young. conversations here early in the season? >> I would guess he's probably Well, he's. probably not the favorite in the NL. I. would assume skins still is because he's. been unbelievable since uh his first. start against the Mets. But yeah, Shi is. pro I mean it's like a skins is the. clear number one. I'd say show is.

probably number one uh number two and I. bet the odds bear that out as well. >> Ski is plus 175. It's actually then. Yamamoto, Chris Sanchez, Chris Sale and. then Otania at plus 800 which is. actually very surprising. I don't know. if it's because they're not going to. give him MVP and side. >> Well, he's minus 350 to win the MVP. I. guess obviously because he plays on both. sides of ball there for baseball. So MVP. is obviously a better award than Sai. Young, I guess. >> Uh it it depends. Sometimes pitchers. have have won MVP, too. The the other. thing that kind of kills him a little. bit is that the Dodgers typically have a. six-man rotation, so he's not getting as.

many starts. A lot of other teams only. have five or fourman rotation, so their. starting pitchers will get more starts. during the year. >> I think those fourman rotation teams. need to take a look. I'm working. Okay. I didn't like my performance against. Clayton Kershaw. I didn't like how I was. pitching against, you know, in. Thunderball. So, I'm trying to figure it. out right now. I got a lot of experts. telling me a lot of things. All of it. revolves around you need to use your. legs. I'm like, well, I'm trying there. They said take the jeans off. Okay. From. >> that that it's tough to pitch in jeans.

>> That's what a lot of people told me. And. they say I need to transfer weight from. ash cheek right to ash cheek left while. going down towards and we got some. really highlevel baseball people sending. me uh ideas on this entire thing. I got. a lot of optimism though from the. baseball world saying maybe I'll figure. it out. I will say this little whiffle. ball thing we've been doing in here, it. is a good time. >> Great. >> If you can pitch, >> sure. Sure. >> If you know where the ball's going, it's. great. >> It's been tough for me to figure out. We. saw with Clayton Kershaw. >> almost killed a couple people in the. stands as I was trying to pitch a strike.

there. I just never really have done. that in my life. So, I'm trying to learn. it here at the ripe old age of 38 about. to be 39. >> You looked pretty good the other day. when I watched your kind of mini bullpin. sesh out here. It looked like you were. kind of tunneling your pitches a little. bit, you know, mixing up your your fast. ball with your kind of offspe. I think. you're a lot closer than you think you. >> I'm starting to get it straight, which. is good. I used to have to aim six, seven feet left for it to go straight. cuz I think early release potentially. when it was coming out now. We got. everything going straight. Just can't. get the height. I mean, I'm hitting. basketball hooper once in a while. That.

thing's really kind of going out there. We don't really know where it's going. It's kind of like me kicking field. goals. >> We don't know exactly where it's headed, but boy, if we're grooving some, >> we can really be a threat. Give me about. a year, I think I'm going to be able to. throw some strikes. And I guess there's. a whiffle ball game here in Indie. Uh, that's pretty big deal. and we obviously. got invited to. Would love to see the. Thunderdome team take on those, but I. see some people on the internet doing. some crazy with these whiffles. >> Yeah, you remember the ball uh we were. kind of around with a little bit. yesterday that only has the slits on one. side. Like you can make those things. dance like you would not believe. And.

that's typically what they use in those. kind of whiff ball games. >> See, I got to get that out. I can't just. throw gas the entire time. Right. >> I can't be a gas station like Paul. Exactly. >> I need to get a little bit of the. cutter, the sweeper, the stinker. >> Exactly. You got to have the funny. stuff. >> The dropper. The dropper. >> Yep. The swerve. We'll get there. Love. baseball still. We haven't talked about. it much. Obviously, we're at the draft. and we're in uh. >> they're nowhere near the dog days of. baseball yet. We're not even close to. that, but we are still invested and we. appreciate them. Joining us live from. Manatican, Ohio, Cincinnati Reds fan. might have worn himself a piece of pizza. last night because of what happened at. the end of the game. Catcher called for.

uh a review. It was a strike. Everybody. in there won pizza. We don't know why, but they showed the crowd. A lot of. people dressed like seats. It was the. end of the night. It was a work night. It is Cincinnati, so maybe people went. home. Uh, anytime the Reds get 11. strikeouts, they get pizza for the fans. That was the 11th strikeout. >> A man who will not experience free pizza. because he won't support the Cincinnati. Reds. AJ Hawk, >> is that accurate? >> I believe there was a few Lightning. delays. I mean, I had kids practices. delayed, uh, cancelled because of.

Lightning. So, yeah, credit to those. fans that did stick around for the free. pizza because the Reds are 19 and 10. And we all know the World Series runs. through the NL Central. >> Okay, it certainly does. We agree with. that. But it runs through the city of. steel. just a couple hours east of. Cincinnati. 19 and 10 is a great record. early in the season. Uh I didn't know. there was multiple lightning delays. They said there was 24,000 people that. went to that game. >> Yeah, that was [clears throat] the early. gate number. That's right. >> Yeah. And then at the end there as we. get 11 strikeouts in the back. It. doesn't look bad. They pan to the side. and it's just empty seats everywhere.

It's like that's what the Pirates look. like before Paul and the boys got there. at night game. Day games you can catch a. PNC Park looking like. >> Tuesday nights are tough. Yeah, especially a working time like. Cincinnati. But I like that the catcher. called for this and all of a sudden we. got free. There she is. She's getting. pizza. He's getting pizza. They're. getting pizza. I like that they're doing. that. And uh shout out to the Reds doing. their thing. And for the catcher saying, "It's me. It's me. You ump stink." And. uh that's what I like about ABS. Uh.

let's move away from baseball. Did you. see my pitch, AJ? >> Yeah, you look pretty good. It's But. you're you're right. You got big strong. legs, man. You got to use them. Like. back in the day, especially the Juice. era, remember some of those pitchers? They had gigantic legs. >> Yeah. And you know, I don't know what. that means though. I'm trying. I think I. do. But. >> push. All you got to do is push off. I. mean, you're good. The whiffle ball is a. little different. I think you're not. really trying to throw full gas all the. time in a whiffle ball game. >> Well, I am though. Yeah, I [laughter]. am, actually. And if you're. >> Well, then you can really You guys fall. down then when you hit them with the old. curve or a change up. Yeah.

>> We're nowhere near that, brother. The. junk. I just I'm trying to get the thing. >> just in that vicinity right there. It. is. It's hard. It's hard for me to do. that. I got two. I pitched a couple. times in this game. I'd get a couple. strikes and then bang, right in the back. of the head. I mean, right in the back. And then they were walking. They weren't. trying to get out of the way to get on. base. It was like, "All right, I'm never. going to be able to put three strikes. together before four balls. Like, there's just no chance I'm going to do. that." So, I'm working. That's what I'm. trying to do here. >> It's also very tough using your lower. body on the mound we have out here.

because if you're really, you know, exerting a lot of force, that thing's. going every which way. And we don't need. you blowing your knee out coming down. off the bump because you're, you know, just trying to gas someone out of the. building. >> That's right, AJ. The next time you come. in this Thunderdome and you step in that. batter's box, just know that there's. some gas and juice coming right through, pal. Okay. Who knows where it's going? Keep your head on a swivel. Uh we got. some breaking news out of Ian Rapaort's. uh Twitter account. The Texans and Pro. Bowl linebacker Aziz Al Shier have. agreed to terms on a three-year. extension. Uh nice payday for a big time. defender and Walter Peyton man of the. year nominee and a deal negotiated by.

Jason Chayot at Sports Stars New York. City. Uh that's a huge deal. He's one of. the leaders obviously of the Texans. He's also a guy that Nick Cacerio who. was just on a show yesterday. Uh he said. we're trying to get a certain type of. player here in Houston and he has. referred to him as the type of player. that they were looking to have in years. past. Remember he got into a fight a. little bit. There was a little bit of a. skirmish. Then Deo Ryan comes out and. says, "Hey, they don't want no. There won't be no our guy's. getting suspended. We don't like that. Then Cacerio came out and was like, hey, this is our guy. We do not like what's.

going on right now. So, they've loved. him publicly before they signed him. This comes a couple days after Will. Anderson. Incredible draft. How do you. feel about what Nick Cacerio and the. Texans are doing down there, AJ? >> I think it's great. I mean, I was shy, if you watch him, the guy is an absolute. tone setter from the first snap every. single game that he plays and I assume. he's that way in the building and walk. through in practice as well. But that's. what's cool. The guy's a Walter Payeyton. man of the year and he's also the most. violent guy that plays through the. whistle like play in and play out. So, he's a he he's a great guy, I think, for.

the NFL. I'm I'm a huge fan of watching. I I want to show young kids his tape and. say this you think you're playing hard. No, this guy is playing hard. Like. that's there's certain guys that you can. turn on the tape and they're always. playing hard. Playing through the. whistle, not dirty, not cheap, just very. physical old school football. And that's. what Alsha does. Walter Payton man of. the year. Uh, playing old school. football and not being scared to fight. I mean, that's football in a nutshell, Dud. And that's Nick Cacerio finding. exactly what he wants. >> Yeah, he's a perfect example of what. Bill Cow always talks about when he when. he coach his guys of kind of towing that.

line or having to pull him back like he. toes the line every snap that he plays. I love him and that defense. I would. love for him to be the play caller, the. green dot on the defense that I'm. playing on. Great. Another great signing. by Cerio. >> Okay, let's go to a guy who's had to. make these types of decisions in the. past. former general manager, uh, former. executive vice president of football, a. guy who's been around ball his entire. life, started something called 33rd. team, which Bill Bich and Lombardi kind. of said, actually that's UNCC football. Uh, [laughter] so kind of jacked that.

thing. And also ESPN analyst, who was so. kind with his time that he came to our. event on Wednesday to welcome everybody. to Pittsburgh. Ladies and gentlemen, hopefully. long-term friend of the program, Mike. Dan. Hey, Mike. >> How you doing, man? >> Great. Good to be with you, Pat. Thanks. for having me. >> I'll tell you what, Tan Bomb, you had a. hell of a performance Wednesday night. You You really turned an entire We were. in a Sprinter van. Okay, we're in a. sprinter van. And uh Hey, let's talk. about the night. What all do we think.

immediately? Tannon Bombs the man. And. uh I didn't expect that, but I. appreciate you taking the time to come. hang out uh chat with everybody. And we. appreciate you taking time today, Mr. Former GM. >> Yeah. No, I appreciate, you know, we had. some emergency frozen Gatorades and I. think I started to win uh Connor and Tai. over. But, you know, I didn't draft. Darius. I didn't draft AJ. I passed on. AJ in ' 06. So, I thought it'd be a long. time coming until I got this invite. >> Yeah. I mean, obviously you didn't draft. me either, you pricks. [laughter] So, let's get him out of.

here. Let's get him out of here. Uh, can. thank you for the time. We appreciate. it. You love B, so we appreciate you. Let's talk about what Cacerio just did. This comes through the water through. Rapaort's uh ex account literally as we. speak. They just signed Will Anderson. whenever we had him on yesterday talking. about the type of guys that they want. They want dogs. Keelin Rutled the guy. didn't have like a draft party. He kind. of did his own thing. How do you feel. about what Caceria has been able to do? Uh do you think with the new generation. of players, it is vital to continue to. seek the guys who are violent and who. are dogs? And do you think long-term.

success is coming to Houston with what. they've been able to put around CJ Strad. seemingly? Yeah, Pat, I agree with what. Avery was saying like the juxiposition. of Aziz Alsha where he's the mayor of. the year off the field and he is a tone. setter that been around guys like Rex. and Bellich guys that love those types. of players and that defense is a. championship defense. I think one of the. underrated picks the other night was. Kayen McDonald. He really is going to. anchor the middle. If they had a. vulnerability, it was at defensive. tackle. That is a championship defense.

And then Pat, when you put that next to. hopefully an improved offensive line on. the other side of the ball, if CJ Stra. could get back to where he was, they. could compete for a championship. And. you're right, in this day and age, you. got to look for guys like a Keenan. Rutled who loves ball, that would play. for free. You know, we used to say. anytime, anywhere. >> Anytime, anywhere is seemingly going to. be a place where we will talk to you. going forward. AJ has a question for. you, Mike. >> Yeah, Mike, what do you think the. Pittsburgh Steelers are thinking right. now with the whole has Pat? What do you.

call it? the the UFA tag that they threw. on him and what's the plan there? What. what what's the reasoning behind that? How do you think it all plays out? >> Big oof. >> Yeah, AJ, that that was a rare thing. And basically, they just kept their. rights to be able to sign him into July. He gets a 10% raise. And you know, Pat, you mentioned it earlier. If he's going. to play this year, he's going to play in. Pittsburgh. I'll tell you what, like to. me, there should be a sense of urgency. He's going to be 43 in December. We know. he's closer to the end than the. beginning, but if he is there, that. means everybody else has to be there. He.

knows the offense because he's been with. McCarthy for a long time, Green Bay, but. there's players like a Rico Do, a. Michael Pitman that they would benefit. from being around Aaron. And I'm. assuming this is not if, but a when. And. if I was Omar Khan or Coach McCarthy, we. saw him at your event. They certainly. didn't seem worried about it, but boy, if I was them, like, let's get this. thing signed and let's get rolling. I I. appreciate that coming from a former. general manager. Hey, let's make our. decision. Okay. And now let's get to. work. You know, we're all trying to win.

here. A lot of things have happened. Uh. Coach McCarthy obviously not on his. front nine of his coaching career. Back. at home obviously want to win right now. They're paying a lot of different. players. Having Aaron Rogers as a. quarterback would certainly be special. The Pittsburgh people, the injers, which. you learned a lot about, I think. probably during the draft week. They're. about sick of waiting around. >> This is two years in a row now. We're. waiting for one guy. >> Okay, that's how Yan injurers feel. But. as soon as he gets back in the building, gets to work, throws one touchdown, all. of a sudden we're all the way back in.

I'm excited to see how Aaron kind of. handles it all. They draft Drew Aller in. the second round. Third round. Third. round. Drew Aller. They have Will Howard. who everybody from within the building. has said he is a guy. We like the way he. carries himself. We just have to see him. in live rounds. Drew Aller, McCarthy. guy, I guess. What do you think about. the backup plans that they have in case. Aaron Rogers says, "Oh, you want to put. big oof on me?" Well, actually, I'm. gonna go ahead into uh jungle in South. America for the next six months. >> There's a chance that that happens. >> Yeah. Well, first of all, that's why Hey.

Aaron, if you're going to do that, that's great. Tell us six weeks ago so. we can go get Kirk Cousins. But if. that's where we are, look, Jason. Rudolph, we could go win games with him. And then Will Howard is an interesting. guy to me. And look with Drew Aller, you're getting somebody going to last. year Pat was probably going to be a. first round pick. He looks the part. He. has a great arm. And then look, we all. know that we we know that fell apart. against Oregon, got hurt against. Northwestern and that was it. But he has. high upside. Coach Parcels used to say. all the time like when you draft a. quarterback, not only do you want starts.

and you want the physical aspect, but. you want to know what the upside is and. he has great upside. So if coach. McCarthy could invest a year in him, they may have something in Aller and. where they took him. It's not the end of. the world if it doesn't work out. >> Yeah, it feels like the entire draft is. actually like that. Even though people. don't judge that immediately. There's. been ass picks everywhere in the draft. and there's been like Hall of Famers. everywhere in the draft. Such a. crapshoot, man. It actually is. You've. been in that room obviously making. actual decisions. But when we do the. draft spectacular, everybody that gets.

picked, we're like, could be. Yeah, >> cuz it actually could be, you know, like. the big shocker of Tai Simpson going to. the Rams, >> okay, could be a great decision. Michael. Pennix. >> two years ago, obviously immediately. on his situation and then as soon. as you look at it, it's like, ah, might. end up working out for him. Isn't that. kind of how the draft should be viewed? And how do you kind of view it in a. nutshell? >> Yeah, Pat, you know who agrees with you. is my uh knucklehead son, Jacob, because. anytime I yell at him, he goes, "I can't. listen to anybody that drafted Charles. Harris before TJ Watt." And then he.

walks away. [laughter] So it is. absolutely the most. >> Jacob cannonball. >> I mean that is that is awesome. That is. awesome. But you can't tell. I mean TJ. Watt I think we should have known. probably. [laughter]. I don't want to on you alongside. your son Jacob. But it really is such a. crapshoot especially situations and. everything like that. Minimizing that is. really all you can hope to do I assume. especially at the top of the draft. Is. that how you view it? Yeah, I think the. whole aspect of it goes back to like.

what Parcels, Belich, they always talked. about like the tape sets the floor, character sets the ceiling. Like if you. get good players from good schools and. you draft them and ask them to do what. they're what you saw on tape within. reason, they should work out. And those. first three rounds, you have to be. airtight. And you know, we did pass on. AJ Hawk, which we probably shouldn't. have. Um, you know, he's exactly what. we're talking about. Like Darius, same. thing. Of course, Pat, you as a punter, you know, You can't draft specialist. Uh, by the way, Jacob's a long snapper, so he's in the same uh family as you.

are, but you have to draft players that. you have a distinct role for. And when. you see the teams that have sustained. success, they have lock step between the. head coach and GM. They have a vision. for the player. And if you want to take. a shot or projection, that's fine. But. you should do that fourth, fifth, and. sixth round. Those first three rounds. really need to be airtight. And physical. uh airtight and physical prototypes. really minimize your chance of making a. mistake. AJ wouldn't let anybody see the. scans from his knees. That's probably. why you passed on him. Now that we know.

how big of a deal that whole thing is, it did work out. But at the time, they're like, "This guy's hard-headed.". Look at his head. Walked in with his. knees. He has no conversation. >> He just says, "Where's the weight room?". >> It's like, "This guy might be actual.". >> I know where I'm supposed to be. >> You got a caveman coming out of Ohio. I. don't know if that's what we need. You. weren't the only one, boss. Don't worry. about that. Only four others or three. others. Uh Debbot has a question for you. about one of those reaches maybe or. surprise picks that happened the other. night. Yeah, talent-wise, uh, it was a. no doubter with Kaden Proctor coming out. of Alabama and he was one of the most. talented offensive linemen in this. draft. Was some questions when it came.

to character and then Miami took a shot. on him early in the first round. I hope. it, you know, pans out obviously as a. lifelong Dolph fan. You were down there. in that front office in Miami. What are. kind of some of the challenges that come. with building a winning culture down. there uh in Miami? >> Yeah, it's going back to what Pat. mentioned earlier, Daryus, like you got. to love ball. You got to love the. process. there's a lot to be distracted. with. I think Proctor is going to be. really good. You look at he lost weight. for his pro day. So, when they're out of. structure, you know, what's their innate. discipline? So, I was really encouraged.

by that. He really moves great for. somebody his size. He has position. flexibility the right or the left side. And I'm sure that Jeff Hafley, John Eric. Sullivan did a deep dive on his. character. It's their first pick. That's. meaningful. And I still remember mine. It was the Brickaw Ferguson who was. really the backbone of a lot of good. teams. And I think Proctor has a chance. to be a good player. You know, weight's. going to be an issue, but I'm sure. they're going to manage that. >> Yeah. But that that could be a massive. motivation for him. Yeah. >> You know, that could be a massive You've. been in Miami, obviously, in that. building at a really high level. I.

wonder if you can win in Miami. >> Been 26 years since they won a playoff. game. I was a freshman. >> That's what I'm saying. I wonder if you. can like There's a lot of options there, man. It is only becoming more and more. getting bigger. >> Yeah. Like Miami is becoming I think. since co. >> Miami has become an even more desirable. distraction place, you know, for. professional athletes. Basketball 11. guys, right? 12 guys. Yep. >> We can kind of corral hopefully. >> And Riley got doing everything. >> It was a tight ship.

>> NFL, what's it? 60 guys on the roster. 60 guys with practice squad and. everything like that. And you need what? Probably 30 of them to be good. Oh yeah. Like very good. That's a lot of people. at an age with a lot of I think it's. tough down there. And I'm just strictly. judging off of if I was drafted down. there as a 21-year-old, >> I'd be dead. >> I I I don't think I would still be on. this earth at this exact time. I It's a. lot of distra. You got to find the right. people, I guess, is kind of the way you. have to view that because it's awesome. The city is just filled with awesome.

everywhere at all times, seemingly. >> Pat, you got to draft guys that love. football that would play for free and. it's really important to them. Look, we. just saw the University of Miami play. for the national championship game. You. know, Mario Chrisall is doing a great. job. I think Jeff Hafley, if you go back. to BC and what he stands for, San. Francisco, Ohio State, obviously what he. did in Green Bay, I think he's a really. good coach, he'll get the types of guys. that love ball, that really want to work. hard in the offseason. And look, there's. distractions everywhere. You know, we. got a team in Vegas now. So, I think it.

goes back to like, you know, how. important is football? you know, how. hard are you willing to work and are you. committed to the process? >> Yeah, Vegas is like just this area right. here. >> Yeah. A lot to do though. Still a whole. lot. >> lot lot to do. >> in the [clears throat] in that area. >> A lot to enjoy. Miami though is just. like a pretty. >> sprawling. >> I mean everywhere. >> Yeah. >> Always something to do. That's why if. like a Miami guy's available to play for. the Dolphins, you would think this guy's. already been here. He's already done. that. >> Bane junior.

>> That's who I'm talking about. Yeah. >> Yeah. But Proctor done down a guard. >> I mean, the rest of the draft too. Chris. Chris Johnson, he he's a a great guy. Jacob Rodriguez, he's like everyone's. favorite player. >> Yeah, that's we hope the second coming. of Zack Thomas in the middle of that. defense. Just up. Chris Bale is. unbelievable. Like they they made some. good picks. >> All right, let's talk about some moves. that were made. Obviously, that's their. first draft over there. There's some. other people that kind of exiting. interestingly. Go ahead, Con Man. >> Yeah, Mike. Kind of weird timing here. for the Titans and the Eagles. The. Titans president of football operations.

Chad Brinker steps down. And then for. the Eagles, their assistant GM Alec. Halib is also leaving. What What does. that kind of mean for both of those. teams? And is that timing not weird? Wouldn't that be something you expect. before the draft or free agency right. after the season? Like what what does. that tell you about what the Titans and. what the Eagles are doing? For the. Titans, is it kind of like, hey, this is. Boron's team. He's just kind of making. some decisions over there. And same for. the Eagles. Does Halabe just want to go. and be a GM somewhere else? What is.

this? >> Yeah, Connor, I would I'm with you. I. was a little surprised because typically. that would happen like when you see. coaching changes. So, with Tennessee, obviously, Salah comes in hired by. Boranzi and I I felt the same thing that. Chad Brinker was the president of. football operations, but clearly this is. Mike Borgani's team. He came over from. Kansas City, talented guy. So, I'm sure. Chad Breaker felt like, hey, you know, there were it just wasn't a good fit for. me because I wasn't running the show. And we'll see where he winds up. But I. was caught by surprise from a timing.

standpoint. And Alec Alibaby's been with. the Eagles a long time, part of two. Super Bowl teams. Uh really smart, capable guy. I know he has big. aspirations. So maybe he felt like by. going someplace else, he'd get more of. the credit. I'm really not sure, but uh. I'm sure both those guys will land on. their feet. >> Okay. I appreciate in uh Paul Koharsski. always on the Nashville beat. >> dog south pal in Philly. >> down there. Yeah, Paul Koharsski though. the whole setting up for maybe. son-in-law who's chief of staff to. potentially become president of.

football. There's a president of. football, there's chief staff football, general manager, there's a head coach, a. lot of titles obviously, but it feels. like a lot of people, Paul Korski. included, think that chief of staff, son-in-law of Amy Adams, Shrunk could. potentially be stepping in there. has. been around a long time. >> and if you got Borggon's there, which is. what Brinker kind of alluded to, he's. got faith in Borggon's. Feels like we're. in a good spot here, maybe the setup for. the Titans in the future is great. And. uh maybe Brinker says it's time for me. to go somewhere else. You know, maybe. it's time for me to do this some other.

program, some other organization. >> And Pat, it's better to leave too soon. than too late. So uh maybe he wanted to. be on the front end of that. >> Yeah, you can open the door as opposed. to get kicked through it. Yeah. Speaking. of, I uh I got little wood shards coming. out of my hand still. >> Yep. >> How many days Wrestlemania go? >> Uh 9 15. >> Yeah. >> Long time ago. Still got wood coming out. because Jelly Roll thought he should put. me through a wooden table. >> Come on. >> I don't like that. I should have got out. of there before he kicked me out.

>> Should have. >> There's a lot of writings on the wall. There was in that entire thing. Uh let's. continue to move around the NFL. Let's. go to Cleveland, shall we? Tannon Bomb. That's a fun place to talk about. football. Todd Monkin's in there. That's. great. Deshawn Watson is the QB1 coming. out of voluntary mini camp. Mary Kay. Kabo. Uh Kat is uh Mary Kay, she has. corrected us to our face. >> Kitt [laughter]. Kat, I'm so sorry, Mary Kay. You've been. serving Cleveland Brown football goods.

for so long. So we are uh very. apologetic of potentially pronouncing. your name wrong. Mary Kay from Cleveland. is saying Deshun Watson a starter in the. NFL in 2026 basically coming out of. voluntary mini camp. >> Wow. >> Tana Bomb, your thoughts on somebody not. playing NFL football for as long as he. will have uh played obviously played a. couple games and he got hurt again. How. do you feel about what's brewing over. there in Cleveland? And I see the head. shaking back and forth. Does that mean. your mind blown that this is potentially. happening? >> Yeah, Pat, that is the most improbable.

development we've seen in a long time. given the amount of time he's missed. And you talk to quarterbacks that torn. an Achilles, it is a skill diminishing. injury. He's done it twice. And when you. talk to quarterbacks at the end of their. careers like the Brett Fars, the Dan. Marinos, it's not their arm, it's their. feet and their legs. And I would just be. surprised like when the bullets are. flying and he has to show some short. area quickness movement in the pocket. I. would just be surprised given the amount. of time that he has that he could still. move. I have no doubt that he could. throw the ball effectively. And by the.

way, they had a heck of a draft. When. you look at Spencer Fono should be a. 10-year star at tackle, great player. Then they were able to get Casey Conpion. and Denzel Boston, like this offense. should be way better. But I would just. be surprised that Deshawn Watson could. start and play at a high level for 17. games given everything he's been. through. >> AJ, he has the edge coming out of. voluntary mini camp, says Mary Kay, who. knows everything happening with the. Browns seemingly for the last 20 years. You've kind of been on the Deshawn. Watson's going to be the starter in. Cleveland beat since the beginning. AJ.

saw the first couple videos of Deshawn. working out and going, "Hold. Are they. still paying Deshawn?". >> I said I What did I say? I said, "Dawn. wants to be the He wants He's still. there. He's still on the team and he. wants to be the starting quarterback.". I've been saying that for months and it. looks like I don't know. I mean, are we. going to have an open uh QB competition. in training camp? Is that what we're. looking at? >> Like Dylan Gabriel, Shador Senior, >> Dylan Gabriel won't be involved. >> Why is that? Cuz Taylor Green's already. passed him. >> They got a Pro Bowl in the roster as. well. Good point. What are we talking. about? Sean Watson.

>> No, Shador. >> Reigning Pro Bowler. Still got his. jersey in his locker right there. >> Yeah, Shador. I say Shador. Hey, brought. a spark to that Cleveland brows. He was. a rookie quarterback, too. Excited to. see what he could potentially continue. to grow upon and become. And Todd Monk. said, "Hey, I wanted you. I was the one. who wanted you in Baltimore." You know, when you said, "I'm not doing it." I was. actually the person saying, "I'd like to. do this." So, we got a lot in common. Deshawn Watson the former what almost. MVP in the league. >> I mean, you know, in this business, you. follow the money first. So he's still. earning a lot of money. So if you are.

Hasslam, that's the guy you want to see. a return on your investment. So if he's. if it's even close, Deshawn will. probably be the guy. Shador, you know. how it is with your draft position, those other things. You got to play that. much better than the guy in front of. you. So I'll be interested to see how it. is in training camp, how those reps are. being split up. >> Tannon Bomb's worried about the. movement. You need to check him running. the running back drills. >> He's going over the back. He's running. sideways. Looks good. >> Yeah, he's doing it all, Mike T. I mean, he's out there moving and grooving. Okay, let's talk about another. quarterback situation that is brewing.

Uh, the New York Jets, obviously a. building you are familiar with. Uh, Russell Wilson, I believe, was in the. building kind of looking around. Uh, we. got a stat sent into us uh that no. quarterback has ever started for the. Giants and the Jets in consecutive. seasons. Okay, nice. Okay, they're uh. that could be Russell Wilson's journey. from the Giants of football to the other. team that's also in the same stadium, the Jets, who much like the Miami. Dolphins and much like the Browns.

obviously have not had the most amount. of success, but they also have fan bases. that expect them to suck. >> And Jets certainly are one of those fan. bases. We got a chance to meet a lot of. them whenever Aaron Rogers signed with. them. They have been the worst team in. football offensively for the last 10. years. Yep. >> Yards and points. Yep. Stats. >> The worst. Gino Smith now going to be. the quarterback. Feels like they did the. right stuff through the draft. Them not. leaking who they were going with at. number two I thought was a big deal for. the Jets. I think nobody knowing was a. big deal. I think I think that's a good.

sign for the culture. How do you feel. about the quarterback position over. there? How do you feel about Russell. Wilson taking a visit? And what are you. know your realistic expectations of this. particular Jets team? >> Yeah, Pat. I think they're ideally win. for today with Gino Smith, give. credibility of that program. I think. they're much improved. Give Aaron Glenn, you know, more runway and then develop. for tomorrow. See what you have at Kate. Clubnick, who if we were having this. conversation a year ago, guys, we would. say, hey, within reason, he could be a. first round pick. You know, let's see. what Frank Wright could do with him. And.

if you bring in Russell Wilson, you. know, that's another one-year band-aid. So, that makes a lot of sense. You know, in this day and age, it's hard to. develop players, quarterbacks, and head. coaches. So, Jets have to make. improvement. I think they will based on, you know, what they've done this off. season. You know, if they win six, seven. games heading into next off seasonason. with three first round picks that they. are well positioned. I think Aaron Glenn. will have a much improved team. And, you. know, if they do that, that'll buy him. time. And I think Gino Smith, given the. offensive line, spec specifically Arman. Meu, Olo Fanu, will be better than what.

he had last year in Vegas. >> He also got incredibly unlucky. I knew. he threw a lot of interceptions, but I. mean, there was lot of things. Every single interception was like. somebody making the play of their life. on Gino. He had to wonder what the hell. was going on out there in Las Vegas. Pete Carol was wondering the same thing. He gets another opportunity where it all. began. Good for him. Good for the Jets. Did you see Russell Wilson playing. banana ball, huh? Russell Wilson, good. eye on it. Gets good contact. That's. good. Wood. Is he going TO RUN IT OUT?

NO. BEHIND THE BACK through the legs. Toss. You're out. >> Hits into a trick play. >> And then hold on. Look at the ump. >> That might be the most dazzling ponche. in history. Can we run that back from. the top? Everything there is pretty. special. That's between the legs behind. the back. Toss over there. LOOK AT THE. UP NINJA. HI PUNCH RUSSELL WILSON. They. almost missed it. >> Yeah, >> can't be missing that. He knew Russell. Wilson getting uh uh tossed out at. first. Was certainly going to go viral. We go and hit the side flip. Yeah, it's. Mr. Banana coming kind of telling. whether or not he should come or go.

Russell Wilson good swing. Looks like. he's in um. >> he's jacked right now. >> Biggest he's ever been muscle. That. yellow isn't the most slimming looking. jersey. >> Whoa. >> Excuse me. >> I'm sorry, but listen, I nothing against. >> other than Stilts guy who looks thin out. there in the bananas. >> You know who did? Yankee legend Tino. Martinez who was also playing for the. Bananas, but nobody cared cuz. Russell got out there and hit a little. blooper off the. >> He's about to be quarterback for both. the Giants AND THE JETS. PALECT.

NEW YORK LEGEND. THAT'S A NEW YORK. LEGEND. >> WON FIVE WORLD SERIES. >> LOOK, YOU'RE RIGHT. OKAY, FORGET about. this. disrespect that out of here. GET. OUT OF HERE. >> YOU didn't calibrate it. >> I know. That's why that pissed me off. You got Tino Martinez. You got a Yankees. legend there. And then all all I see it. takes me three days. There you go. There. he is. >> Russ is a Yankees legend. >> Look at that standing ovation. You think. Russ got one of those for going, you. know, three and 14 for the Giants last. year? I don't think so. >> Do you think he played 17 games? You're. out of your mind. >> I didn't even see this Tino.

>> I assume he did. No, I can't find it. Oh. no. IS IT YOUR PONCHO? 65 YEARS OLD. >> LET'S watch this IN REAL TIME. LET'S. LET'S GO FULL SCREEN ON THIS. >> OH NO. PJ. Ping. [laughter]. >> That's why it No kidding. >> Russell Wilson. Well, he has stepped in. batters blocks in years. That guy's a. New York legend about to be quarterback.

for both NEW YORK TEAMS. BOOM. ACTUALLY. SAW A CONTACT. BOOM. BANG. >> THE ONE I didn't see it. I feel like a. real. >> You forced us to do that. >> I know. >> You forced us to do that. >> I know. I just saw Tino. I just saw a. picture of Tino, you know, giving a Oh, man. That stinks. That's embarrassing. [laughter]. >> Hey guys, who who would win a race. between Russell Wilson and Deshun. Watson? >> Deshawn Watson? [laughter] What is your. problem? >> Good question. >> WE DON'T NEED THAT ON THIS SHOW, OKAY? HEY, we don't need to start. fighting on him who would be Deshawn.

would win. Deshawn would have beat that. out. I think I think I've been seeing. his running back drills. Tenb. >> I've been seeing him. >> He's been doing I mean he's been really. moving, man. And and the camera's like. >> and I don't think there's any AI. trickery to any of it. I think he is. feeling his best. I think I saw him. Nope. Not going to say it. >> What's that? >> No, not going to say it. >> What is he doing? He's [laughter]. getting better. He's getting better. He's just getting better. He's just. throwing the ball around. Look. Look at. this. Look at this. Look at this. You. tell me. Tan bomb. This is posted uh by. him, I believe. [snorts].

>> Yeah. >> Whoa. >> Yeah. He's getting to first base, I'd. say. >> Holy. >> Yeah. Yeah. Watch this. Watch this. >> And the sound effects are actually. >> Yeah. Guy Guy Filman's on a scooter. He's going like 10 miles an hour. >> Motor. >> Yeah. So, I don't think the guy's going. behind the back against him. >> Not enough time. Probably not. >> I think he's trying to scoop that thing. and he's trying to shovel that as quick. as possible. And then Deshan's got the. football in hand. Actually, >> if he plays this year, good football. Holy.

>> Yeah. >> What a wild football life. >> Big if that's going to come back of the. year. Is he eligible? >> Has to be. Yeah. They've been giving it. to the non-ass to super ass guys. Like, you know, if you're super ass and then. you're not ass. >> Yeah. He to Achilles. He could be a. comeback player. Yeah. >> Okay. Definitely. Yeah. >> Yeah. Because it's injury and not pain. >> I don't think he would have been after. the other stuff, but like after the torn. Achilles. Yeah. >> He's an AP voter. Thank you for breaking. that down. Let's go to another situation. that is brewing. Tannon Bomb, cannot. wait uh to hear your thoughts on this. And we don't need any of your whatifs.

You know, I I I don't need any of those. Who do you think in that particular race. to first base would get there faster? >> Oh, I'm going Russell Wilson. >> That's he died head first. >> Yeah, you're right. He definitely would. >> Good point. >> He definitely would. >> Seriously. >> And he was a baseball player. Uh all you. know, he could have uh. >> Deshun Watson was the Michael Jordan of. football. Okay. Came out. >> when Michael Jordan was playing. basketball. >> It was a long time ago. Those highlights.

we seen. >> Mhm. >> JJ Watts been retired for what? A. hundred years. >> Yeah, you're right. >> His quad's still gigantic. >> JJ Watt, Deshawn Watson, Russell Wilson. Who's winning a race? The first. >> JJ Watt. >> I like JJ. >> I'm still going. >> Definitely JJ. >> Still going to Sean. >> JJ freaking what? >> I don't think Deshawn's losing to JJ, right? Is he? because they're like kind. of. >> I don't think JJ's if JJ's about to. lose, he's tripping both of them and. he's crossing first. >> And that's what we're looking for in the. draft. Okay, that's what we're looking. for in the draft. We want that type of.

competitive spirit whenever we're. bringing somebody in. Speaking of a. competitive spirit, there's a man down. in Dallas that got a chance to showcase. who he is, but now there's something. brewing. Tannon, go ahead, Ty. >> Yeah, Mike, we were trying to figure out. yesterday if George Pickkins is going to. be on the roster week one for the. Cowboys. Listen, we we heard everything. with the uh franchise tag. He intends to. sign it. He hasn't signed it yet. No big. deal. He will. Um I don't want to say. what would you do if you were Jerry here. because I don't think anyone thinks the. way Jerry does. But what do you think.

will ultimately happen with the George. picking situation? Is he going to be a. Cowboy this year and just kind of play. on the tag or do you think they'll end. up, you know, maybe moving on and. trading him at some point in the. offseason here? >> Yeah, Ty, I I think what was really. important was, you know, uh Adam Sheriff. came out and announced before the draft. that he had signed the tender. Turns out. he didn't. So he cannot be traded until. he signs that franchise sender. So I. think he's on the team this year. I. think if they were going to trade him, it would have been before the draft and. obviously then they could have drafted a.

receiver. I think for a team that really. thinks they have a chance to win it all. this year. I just can't imagine they. would trade somebody as productive as. George Pickins was a year ago at this. point in the offseason. So I think it's. just a matter of time until he signs it. and then they'll get through this year. and then figure things out. But I think. Stephen Jones basically laid it out. like, "Hey, we'll pay him $27 million. for this year on a one-year deal and. then we'll go from there.". >> Okay, it seems like today's words from. Rap Sheet and Tannon Bomb are he's. playing for the Cowboys here. This is.

probably going to happen. Mulleeta is. his agent. We understand how great of an. agent Mulleete is. We're just talking. about Deshawn Watson still getting paid. Hasn't played football in a long time. That contract the biggest of all time. He doesn't just have the biggest deal in. quarterback history. He has a lot of. different positions history as well. If. GP was to hit the market, there's a. chance he could get broken off in a. massive way. But instead, there's a. chance he'll play under a one-year. franchise tag under another prove it. But then they can't they franchise tag. him again after that. Tannon, isn't that. kind of a scary predicament there. business-wise? >> Yeah, I don't think they will, though, because that's 20%. So, you know, back.

of the envelope, that'd be, you know, 34. $35 million, which is a lot to pay on. another one-year deal, especially when. you got CD on the other side. So, I. think you get through this year, let him. go, and then go draft somebody else. because I I just can't imagine they're. going to move on from Dak, break up that. Dak CD combination. So, I think they hit. on Pickkins. It was a great move. Um, and I think if you were going to extend. them, now would be the time. I just. can't imagine that they would go. backtoback years on the franchise tag. >> All right. Well, uh, be excited to watch. it. We love GP down there in Dallas.

because they're on national television. every week. >> So, it's nice to have a guy that can. jump over a human standing up. You know, a lot of people can do the hurdle over. people that are going to tackle. Yeah. George Pickkins can get you if you're. trying to hug him and he can jump right. over top of your head. >> Absolutely. >> And he will and he'll hold the ball like. this. >> Yeah. >> He's unbelievable. >> Yeah. I don't think Deshun Watson could. do that either. >> What's this guy's problem? >> He just doesn't like him. >> What's this all about? I mean, I I bet.

he can't either. >> No, I don't think so. >> That's why GP is one of one. Okay, let's. pivot away from uh current NFL stuff, and let's get the thoughts of a former. GM on something that is currently. brewing in all of college sport, but. definitely in college football as we. speak. Go ahead, Tone. >> Yeah, Mike T. I'm not sure if you saw, but projected first round quarterback. for next year, Brendan Sorsby, who is at. Texas Tech, has decided to step away. from football uh because of a gambling. addiction and everything that is coming. out is he's probably not going to play. college football again because of what.

he did. Um, the NFL does have a. supplemental draft. Um, Chris Carter's. coming out of the supplemental draft. Josh Gordon's coming out of supplemental. draft. Um, do you think there's a. situation where NFL teams would be uh. interested in this? I don't know if. Sorsby would have to go through the. supplemental draft, but do you think NFL. teams are looking into this situation. because of a guy that's so talented that. but they might be interested in who. would be a firstrounder next year if. this did not happen? >> Yeah, it's a great question. First of. all, let's hope Brandon Sersby gets the.

help that he needs with a really serious. issue in our country now. And uh we did. check with the league and basically he. would have to be ruled ineligible to. play college football to even be. considered for the supplemental draft. So the NFL is not going to do anything. until his situation gets, you know, sorted out, which we all know sometimes. takes a while. You know, we saw Trinidad. Chamblas go to court amongst many others. to get his eligibility. You know, he he. was successful, others haven't been. So, we may not know for several months. Typically, the supplemental drafts in.

late July. And the way that works is if. you draft the player, you would lose. that draft choice in the corresponding. round the following draft. He's. extremely talented. He's a borderline. firstrounder. So, there's a lot to. unpack with this story. I think we just. saw the beginning of it and it all the. the biggest issue is going to be is. whether or not he's allowed to play this. year in college football. And once we. know that, that's when we know if the. supplemental draft could become a. possibility. >> Okay. That's obviously a very serious. situation. There's more information.

coming out. I believe Pete uh. >> Knos Pete Knox. Yeah, sure. >> Pete Knox of all three. Yeah. >> Was able to see what investigators saw. about his gambling and they were talking. about but I think it said $10,000 was. the gambling and obviously all this. information is flowing in fluid in real. time. I assume there'll be more. information that is released or. whatever. Uh he's he placed more than. 10,000 in wagers, so he's at like. 10,500. And at one point he was. averaging 20 bets per day. Sorsby placed.

bets across multiple states using a. range of gambling apps. Now, it did come. out that he was uh Indiana when he was a. freshman on the Indiana football team. Uh but then we also saw like he was. doing balls and strikes and they were. like dollar bets, 250 bets. So. >> that's how you get to 10,000 pages, >> I think. Yeah, exactly. Pretty quickly. I think the NFL um is going to want to. know. They like obviously the NFL is. going to want to know, but I I'm I'm. very. I don't want to say intrigued because I. guess that would be a proper uh.

descriptor, but this is a huge point of. a lot of things here because this is. projected firstrounder. This is. gambling, but is it on his actual team? Is it actually on his sport? Is it on. other sports mostly? Is he allowed to do. that if he's a football player? Is he. allowed to gamble on baseball? Have we. already decided that? Have we evolved. the rules for what he's allowed to wear? And if he did gamble on his own sport, on his own team, I think there's a lot. of NFL teams that'll be like, "We don't. want that guy on our team." And then.

with where sports gambling is right now. and with where it's headed, you know, it's just like. >> it's very fascinating how this is going. to be a pretty big indicator, I think, on what's going to happen in the future. if this situation pops up, which we. assume at some point it will. definitely. going to set a huge precedent. But you. you mentioned being a a decision maker. if he gambled on his own team. I don't. know if it would take him off. everybody's board, but I want to know if. he gambled to win if he, you know, if. he's betting to lose or if he's betting. to win.

>> I'm sure. Yeah. >> Yeah. The report was he was Indiana was. not playing and bet on the win every. game. >> Correct. >> Just one little action while I'm. standing over here on the sideline now. [laughter] Can't have that happening. Cannot have that happening. But in the. grand scheme of weather, >> he's sick of it. He's disgusted. >> His phone died. [laughter]. >> Clean his. >> He's bummed out. >> He's about Yeah, he is a little bummed. out. We're all kind of bummed out about. the situation. >> I am bummed out about it. Yeah, Texas. Tech is I mean, they became one of the.

darlings of college football last year. >> Yeah. Still are. >> Yeah. >> To be honest, let's put him up. Actually, let's get a shot of him in the. back wall there with a There it is. We. put him on the back wall there. Split. Oh, >> let's get a photo. Thanks for coming on. Tannon bomb. >> killed. >> All right. See you dude. Ask Mike. Tannon. >> Way Mike. >> That was a good app. >> Great. >> Memorable. I think it's a very Mike. Tannon Mexican. >> Yeah. Perfect. >> Don't you think? >> Yeah. [laughter]. >> Yeah. I think if if there was any other.

way, uh I think it would have been worse. than that in the Tannon bomb brand. The. Tannon brand if you. >> Exactly. Maybe another Watson shot. >> He is Dude, >> what was up with that? I mean, obviously. there's a lot with that, but but on that. note, if he was come back after four. years of not playing football, really. played some football, it was ass. But if. he was to come back after not playing. great football or not playing at all, especially with everything that has. happened and play good football, that. would be insane to think. >> Insane. Have we ever seen that? >> No. >> No.

>> That big of a break? Yeah, probably not. >> That's why when Colin Kaepernick was. trying to get back in the league like. six years after he hadn't played, I was. like, "Good luck out there." there. And. then there's people like, "Oh, they're. going to hold it against him. They're. not going to sign him." It's like, there's no way he's able to. play. Six years away from the game at. that position. That is a very difficult. position to just be away from the game, not getting reps, not getting in there, not getting action. It's like punter. If. I was to step back in, I mean, that's. the bottom of the totem pole. That that. is the lowest level of everything. Just. dropping back in there would be a crazy. move after stepping away from it.

There's only so many jobs. I mean, there's only 32 quarterback jobs. There's so much talent out there to just. step away, not play, and then drop back. in there as if nothing happened is. insane. That that's that's an insane. thought that it could happen. >> He played in six games in 22, six in 23, and then seven and 24 before tearing the. Achilles. Obviously, none last year. Um, and they didn't really look great in any. of those games. So, >> ladies and gentlemen, wrapping it up. here. Mike Tannnan Ball. >> Mike, you had a great exit. What are we.

doing? You come back for round two here. I just want you know I didn't hang up, you know, my video froze, so I wasn't. trying to thumb out or anything like. that. [laughter]. >> All right, we appreciate you, ladies and. gentlemen. That's Mike Tan. >> Yeah, Mike. >> I love that guy. >> Good clarification. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. He's just trying to throw him up. >> Does he really think that does he really. think Russ Wilson's beaten Deshawn in a. 40? >> That's a good question. >> I I mean, let's run that banana ball run. again one more time just so I get him. >> He did look pretty fast. Like he. honestly looked he looked quick. >> Yeah, no hamstring pull. looked like he.

was going. >> it down the line. >> We should try to get the Deshun Watson. video up next too, please. If we can. kind of go back to back here as Russell. Wilson stepping in for the bananas. First pitch he sees gets wood on it. Oh, in between the legs behind the back. pitching THE PITCHER FAT. >> AND PUNCHING. >> He did run though a little bit. I. appreciated the reach too. And then. here's Sean Watson. >> His car rolling too. >> That juke move was lightning slow. So I. don't know if he's slow. Yeah. Yeah.

[laughter] Yeah. BUT DIDN'T HAVE A. CHANCE. >> I don't know if the agility's there, but. straight line speed maybe. [snorts]. >> I mean, we'll have to see it. I mean, why don't we Yeah, cuz Russ. knee drive, too. >> Taking Russ. >> Russ actually is moving. >> You know what? I don't know. I was my. >> He almost beat out hit the first. >> My first response was Deshawn Watson, obviously. What are we even talking. about here? >> Yeah. >> Okay. Go back to Russ. >> Yeah. This ain't. >> I'm going to time Russ 60 real quick.

>> I'm go to Seanino. three. >> That's that was fault. That's a 38 160. That's 60 ft. >> 60 ft. >> Yeah. >> Sorry. 90. >> What you just did was accurate for sure. >> What do you mean? >> You got a good thumb. I know you got a. good thumb. Now time him. >> One. >> Okay. >> Pretty even. >> I'm taking Russ. >> One, two. >> He's He's going 70% right now. >> Yeah. Yeah, he's. >> he ran at 3540. >> Yeah, but he might be going 70% cuz he's.

scared his hamstrings are going to pop. out of his legs. That's why Russell. Wilson should not be going 100% right. here. Maybe I pull something. No, he's. full out because he's in the best shape. he's been in. >> I'll tell you what, they both look slow. as dirt. But I would not want to be in. the hole when Russ came barreling. through like that. He looked He looked. like the bus right there trucking down. the lane. >> The bus. >> The wheels on the rust go. You're right. Yeah. And that's why he. was such a good baseball prospect. because you might get him out, but you. might be knocked out. >> That's right. >> That's a wheels under Russ.

>> Is he in Monument Park? >> What do you think, Tony? Man, I cannot. believe that happened to Tito. I'm I'm. going to think about that for the next. 20 years. >> What is Monument Park? >> It's where all like the Yankees legends. are all the numbers are retired. It's. behind that. >> You don't you think Russ is there? >> I don't know. He spring ball. He's. always clean in the stripes and then. they always got him. He's. >> boom. He he's even doing the uh the. magic trick with the palm. >> Yeah, you bet. >> Somebody out over there. And then he. gets in the batter box, takes a little. BP. And you saw him with the banana.

boys. >> He had a very comfortable eye on that. ball, didn't he? >> Oh, yeah. >> Great hack. >> First swing. >> Trying to go the other way, you know, just hit the ball where it's pitched. >> God, Tino. >> Hey, 62. Wasn't even close. I would have. just shut my mouth. >> I didn't even know the guy was in this. thing. >> Stupid mouth. >> I knew he existed. Of course. I knew who. Tino Martinez was before you said his. name. >> FIVE TIME WORRY CHAMP. >> FIVE TIME. [screaming]. BANNER. BANNER. BANNER. BANNER. BANNER.

Pennets all over the place. >> He was so good. He when he held that. bat, [laughter] he was at lefty. >> Yeah. >> And when he played lefty. care home run wasn't a short stop. >> This guy's great at first. >> He wasn't first base. >> First base. Boom. >> That's right. >> You knew. >> Yeah. >> Mhm. >> Yankees fan in the back kind of left me. out to drive right there. I would like. to let you know. Yeah, that that was a. lefty. Lot of bombs. Okay. Quick. How. much do I know about baseball? That. feels like a first baseman right there.

>> I I got a little worried that I was. going to uh destroy my own credibility. and call. He's got a Yankees hat on. >> Good call. >> Oh my god. >> And he also I'm about sick of you guys. just making things up. He He won four. >> Yeah, I know. I was just trying to gas. him up a little bit. He wasn't there for. the first one. I know. He was with the. Mariners still. That's okay. It's okay. Nobody No, I mean, you know, >> Tino Martinez, though. I knew that. before today. >> Legit legend. So, that's why it really. bums me out that bad.

>> Yeah, but the Cosmonauts have some good. pitchers. >> That guy was throwing a little gas. And. Tino is I mean, can we Is Tino 60 plus, is he not? >> 58. >> 58. Yeah. So, he's getting up there. >> He's battling injuries, too. I bet he's. got injuries and he he probably played. through some stuff to play in that game. >> Yeah, BUT ALL THE EXCUSES. that. >> he didn't make them. I'm making them for. him. He didn't make people. No, but I'm. SAYING I THINK TINO would say Scott can. really move the rock. >> Oh, yeah. >> Yeah. I think Tino would be impressive. >> Call him up. >> Nibble in the edges. >> He was nibbling the edges a little bit. >> Do we know how many good baseball. players there are out there? Who are all.

these super duper cosmonauts? >> A lot of good guys are playing for the. bananas. So much so that like now it's. kind of starting to get to like the. really good guys are getting plucked and. they're going to the big leagues. >> What? >> Banana ball. >> The white. bush. >> That's awesome. >> Yeah. >> Once again, cannot say it enough. Congrats to the banana boys. That's an. unbelievable thing that they're selling. out stadiums and entertaining the masses. with a sport that we love now. So, I. enjoy it mightily. We'll continue. digitally. Sports Center will cover. after us. We'll see you tomorrow. Be a. friend. Tell your friend something nice. about change your life. Goodbye.

>> I think I got you. You did. >> That was me trying to get the first like. wrestle. >> Mhm. >> But I don't know if I. >> Is the other team really called the. Cosminauts? >> Party animals. >> There's the I thought they might added a. team I didn't know about. I didn't. >> They added the Indianapolis Clowns. We. know that. >> Don't love that. Tough to be a fan of. them, but I do appreciate that we got. added into the realm because we do sell. out for him all the time. >> I uh they got Cosmic Baseball though. >> Yeah, at night. That's right. >> That's Rogers Realm is playing for one. of the teams. >> Really? I saw that. Actually,

>> he actually got hit a double I believe. last night or two nights ago. Did the. Rogers nipple celebration and then did. the pinky hang. >> He's a good ball player. >> He is actually a player and he can throw. pretty good. Oh, >> are these pitchers just good pitchers. from lower divisions that aren't tall. enough? >> No, probably just don't have quite. enough velocity would be my guess. >> Vo is probably. >> So, >> do we think size? Because I saw a guy. wearing Daisy D. So, I was. watching uh I was watching the LA.

Angel City. >> Yep. >> Angel City. >> Wait, are you talking about the Los. Angeles Angels of. >> the women's soccer team? >> Oh, gotcha. LA FC or whatever. >> LA Angel FC FC. >> and they were playing. >> Portland I think. >> Okay. >> Timbers Timber. >> What what sport is this? Soccer. We're. talking. >> women's soccer was on Sunday. Good game. by the way. Lady who just returned I. believe from uh having a baby scored in. her return. >> Big deal. One of the story lines before.

the game. >> Hell yeah. >> Was the her and then she ends up. scoring. I believe it was pretty good. Then they had the women's sports on on. this is all on ESPN 2 and it was uh on. TV obviously we had hockey we had NBA it. was just taking up all all the TVs we. had baseball uh yeah it it did replace. Sunday night baseball I was watching. that they had interviews with uh Floj uh. FAJ and crushed it by the way she always. does she's incredible content and then. right after that show was over there's a. guy wearing a cowboy hat Daisy Dukes. right on the bump and he's so and I.

hadn't seen that you know there was. something going on over here with the. TVs And all of a sudden, I corner my. eye, I think I see an ash cheek up here. >> Oh. >> I'm like, what? I don't know what's. going on. I look up there, cowboy hat. Daisy Duke's gassing that thing. >> And he was throwing unbelievable. >> And I'm like, that's banana baseball. right there. Also, they're on ESPN 2. right now. >> Yeah. >> Signed a contract. >> Legit. >> They're like on It was. >> I saw I saw professional air guitar.

competitions on ESPN 2. >> Those are. >> Who won? Who won? I I I could guess. I. know. >> One of the gentlemen with with a long. wig on one. >> and he was a Caucasian fella. >> Uh you know what? I think it was a very. diverse crowd like that really. >> that that entered. Yeah. Yeah. From what. I remember. >> I like that cuz that you know sometimes. you'll see like the horse competition or. like the human pet dog competition. >> What is the horse competition? What. would that be? >> You know which one? >> Mr. Hands. >> No, the ones that are actually doing the. galloping with their hands and their.

feet. Oh, you're for like humans acting as. horses on all fours. >> Yeah. Not Mr. Hands. [laughter]. >> I've never seen that. >> These are the fuzzies. >> These aren't the fuzzies. They're. >> That's fries. >> Oh, fries. >> Fries. They're And I don't think they're. ever going to get on ESPN, too, but. I mean, never know if they'll. start. [laughter]. >> Yeah. You. >> congrats to CW, by the way, becoming a. part of the ESPN Plus fan. >> Thank you. >> More sports coming over. Certainly love. that. Appreciate that. Shout out to CW.

because remember I believe there had. been an arrangement between ESPN and CW. for a couple things. College football. playoff game I believe in years past. that had kind of been subleasased or. whatever. So who knows how long the. negotiation has been going on. CW Sports. finds a home in the ESPN Unlimited app. And it feels like uh ESPN's continuing. to do what it has done for a long time, which is gather as many uh sports rights. as possible and try to. um recruit sports fans however you.

possibly can because they have some. interesting contracts over there to CW, you know. So, it's like pick it up. And. I'm not saying it's like the OO, but it. does feel like ESPN is like, "Hey, if. you're a sport, we would love to be and. we would honor to be a part of your. presentation." And uh I'm happy to see. that they're still investing in that. I. think that's good news for the future. for ESPN. >> I know they have ACC football. Um cuz. what's his name's calling it? I was. listening to it last year. It's pretty. good. Um. >> they got NASCAR or some they is live. golf gone now. >> Well, they're backing out of. tournaments. But.

>> postponed. >> New Orleans. They're returning. They got. to pay. >> Yeah, they're returning a hosting fee. So, I don't know if it's people. >> 1.2 million is owed back to New Orleans. >> He's going to get his money. >> 3.2 million in total. >> Mhm. >> That we have given. See, we held up our. end of the bargain. We'd like to say 2. million of that went into a park to make. it better. Okay, we'll keep that. But. the other now, and that came after he. said, "Would love to thank the PGA. for a phenomenal weekend with the Zurich.

Classic." On that note, leave is. postponing. We'd like about a million. back and we'll see as we go down. >> I'm a little worried. I think it should. be. I'm a little worried. >> It should be. >> Well, about what? >> I'm a little worried about the future of. of that league. >> What? >> They just got on ESPN. >> Yeah, >> we'll see. We'll see. >> This might save them legit. >> NXT massive. There's like six debuts. last night on NXT. >> Evil huge. >> in also. >> Who was that fat man?

>> Yeah, I can't remember. Bone was going. crazy for him this morning. I. >> Ghost, I believe. Ghost or Goss. British. lad. >> Yeah, British lad. Yep. >> Supposed to be the next KO. >> That guy's supposed to be the next KO. >> I think they say that cuz he's big man. >> Okay. All right. Yeah. >> Cruz is his name. Cruz name. He's big. man. He's an athlete. >> Yeah. He can really move. KO. Bigger man. who can move. >> Absolutely. But yeah, Evil is kind of. the the prevailing story there. I don't. see anybody in NXT being able to stop. this guy. >> That sucks. So,

>> whoa. >> What What are we [laughter] talking. about? >> Evil or. >> what? Evil or just. >> I think just in general. But I am. excited for Liv. If Liv continues to go. on ESPN, >> we need to turn off the music on the. 18th hole though. Yeah. >> Okay. We need to do a civilized golf. tournament if we're going to do it. We. need golf. >> but golf. Not golf but louder. That's. what we need. Okay. Over there. >> Golf but golf. >> Golf but golf. >> And ESPN might do that for him. like,

"Hey, you guys have good golfers. You. need to stop with the gimmicks. We're. going to bring you in and we're just. going to make it normal golf, but live.". >> How about this? Empty golf courses. We. don't care. Yeah. >> Okay. Just get them out. We'll play at. night. Actually, we got night time. >> That'd be awesome. >> Prime time golf is what you guys are. doing. That's awesome. Good luck out. there. We're pulling. >> They don't play on it. They bring the. crowd. Nick, can you speak to your. experience at a live event? >> I had a great time. It was very um. sparsely attended, so there was a lot of. room to be able to see everything. You. can get right up against the ropes.

>> Liar. >> THAT'S GOOD. THAT'S A GOOD EXPERIENCE. >> I THOUGHT I thought the music was going. to be terribly distracting. It wasn't. bad, but it was only really at one or. two holes. So, >> the 18th and the first. >> Apparently, you guys didn't spend enough. money while you were there. >> Maybe. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. I think they were spending a lot. of money and then all of a sudden some. >> some real stuff started happening early. >> Yeah. >> Oh, for me, >> how's it doing over here? Not good, right? >> Oh, is there a way out of this train. wreck? Yeah. >> Oh, yeah. There's there is. >> Maybe they started the whole thing. I'm. kind of bummed out about that though. >> We'll see. We'll see what happens.

>> Congrats again. >> You think they got it still, Da? You. think it's gonna keep going? >> I'm hopeful. You know what? I don't. care. >> Why. within as much as possible. >> You did this gimmick for THIS LONG AND. NOW YOU'RE JUMPING. >> I CAN'T WAIT FOR YOU just to turn on F1. We had to do an entire F1 thing. >> He will. >> Wait till you see the Indy500 this year. These cars are blessed. >> They bring it. They bring it. >> They're bringing it this year. >> Yeah. All respect to Indy500.

>> Okay. The pinnacle. >> The pinnacle is the pinnacle. >> Indy500. >> Mhm. >> The grandest spectacle in racing. >> Yes. >> The number one. of a bunch of number ones. >> That's right. How many people go? Like. 400,000. >> Yeah. 400 500,000. >> Yeah. I was like 550 last year. I. thought they're talking about like 700. this year. >> Did you go. >> start to see the flags? I went when I. play here. >> Where did you watch from? Wait, how'd. you Maybe you need to get out the field. a little bit. >> Yeah, but maybe you need to get down.

there and kiss. >> I kissed the bricks. >> You need to stay inside the track. >> Yeah, but don't you think you need to. feel the. wait. >> That one's just going so they get the. money for the laps. >> They got no chance. And then there's. also another. They crashed early. They're five laps. behind. [laughter]. >> They're just playing catchup. And then. you sit there for a couple more seconds,

30 more seconds. You watch as the. jumbo's drawing. It's like, "Holy. these things are flying." Then they come. around the corner. It's. what it is. >> Remember New Garden last year? >> Remember he was all the way back and he. always electric. >> Do you see what Sig said? >> No. He said he told his AD or whatever. it is, uh, FBI, whatever the person who. runs colleges are, um, I'm not doing.

anything except for the Indy500, >> right? He's driving a pay score. >> So, what's that tell you? >> Yeah. He said, I told him say, no, everything except for any 500. We got. football games to win. >> We're perfect last year. People ask me. how we get better. Well, it ain't going. to do anything other than any. 500. [laughter]. >> I can't wait to see them. Expect it. >> Yeah. Absolutely. That's cuz it is the. pinnacle. >> Yeah. And Sig kind of wants to feel the. >> That's a big part of it. You need to get. out there and. >> speed. It's just the It's just an oval.

>> What do you mean? >> It's not just a freaking oval. >> IT IS THE OVAL, BROTHER. oval. Like. >> I'll never get it. >> I need some. >> Oh, they got a road course, too. Come. on, weak. >> I need some I need some whoopy whoops. >> Well, they actually pass each other, so. you probably won't even like that. >> Tony, I thought you were I thought. you're on my side. >> Well, I am. Pick a side. I am on your I I can. like both, but I don't have to. disrespect the Indy5. This is just like. the LeBron jersey. Okay. >> Yeah. I don't have to disrespect the. Indy500. >> Be nice, remember? >> I respect I put my flag up in May.

>> Can you like both though? Isn't it one. or the other? I feel like it's one or. the other. >> I feel like it's that way. It's either. American racing, which is better than. their racing. That's what it is. So, I. got NASCAR. >> Either it's either racing or it's like. single file line. >> You're rubbing or you're racing. >> Yeah. I got sprint racing. All of them. And that's why NASCAR is a goat. >> Hey, go-kart racing, all of it. >> I'm not going to say the word cuz. Michael Cole said it about the group. that Dan Housen was with, and it is a. style of racing, >> but nobody will really respect that I. know that much about racing to say it.

So, I'm not going to say it. But that. style of racing is awesome. >> H get my eyes on that. >> And what do you know about this? >> The drivers aren't that. The car the. cars are funny. >> No, that's not funny car. The uh little. person racing. >> Yeah, that's what I'm talking about. is. they are I believe I mean we're we're. >> they're drifting right now. >> Yeah, we're doing a lot of. >> Okay, >> they can drift. The driver the drivers. are normal. >> Cletus going to have some of those out. there. >> Hey, listen. Cletus, I got a uh I got a. message from somebody not named Cletus.

Might have gave up the cave fab. I don't. know if it's the actual person. I have. to do some more research. >> Yeah, but I think there is some car. happening out here in Indianapolis this. weekend. Certainly a lot happening this. weekend. We'll try to make it. But if. Cletus would like to come in here once. again, we would like to say we love to. talk to Cletus about the event he's got. going. >> Now, not 100% sure if we're going to be. able to make it to that. >> No. >> Lot going on right now. >> A lot going on right now. >> I apologize. >> Full. ton. You were the one that was supposed.

to be boots on the ground for us. You. Bailey M. >> That was. >> Didn't Didn't he say that? >> He said you were jacked up to go. That's. why you. >> If I have to break my ankle to not go, I. will. [laughter]. There's no reason for all that. >> All right, >> let's talk about some Let's talk about. some college sports news that's. outrageous. You know, it felt like March. Madness had it figured out. >> Feels like a lot of people had been. chasing the feeling that March Madness. has brought to so many over the years. Obviously, the NCAA runs March Madness. They don't run any of the other. championships at D1 level, but they do.

run the basketball men's and women's. They see a lot of profit. They see a lot. of greatness come from March Madness. every single year. We all shut down what. we're doing. watch a sport that we don't. watch all year and buy into what's. happening because the chaos is. spectacular. What is the madness of. March going to bring? It's different. now. Obviously, there's not as many. Cinderella stories to be told with NIO. and Transportal and everything like. that, but this past season was. electrifying. We were lucky to be a part. of numerous games here in Indianapolis. And now the NCAA is trying to change it. >> 76 teams.

>> Too many. >> When does it stop? >> WHAT IS IT? THEY GOT IT FIGURED OUT, DON'T THEY, AGE? I thought we had it. figured out in this entire thing. Now, I. will argue against myself saying that we. have it figured out. More games at the. beginning doesn't matter. >> Okay, that's basically what this would. change cuz once Sweet 16, Elite 8, that's only so many teams out there. So, more games at the beginning, more maybe. playin games at the beginning. Certainly. something like that we would get excited. about. But I think everybody's natural. reaction to this is how many teams are.

130. What? 76 of them are getting into. the tour. Do we even Why do you. even play a season? It's just a It's an. interesting thing. >> It's It's like winning six games and. becoming bull eligible in college. football. Like now I guess so. We're. going to have multiple 500 teams in the. tournament. Are we going to have teams. that are, you know, 15 and 18 that are. going to make the tournament now? Is. that how it's going to work? >> And was it Coach K that told us this? I. forget who gave us the speech that was. basically like what this is going to do. is only get more big conference schools. in that are weighed down.

>> in Auburn. >> Yeah. So like yeah, middle of the pack. big conference schools are going to get. in. Like that is what this is going to. become if they get to this point. But. this is just like a natural tendency I. think of a lot of people that make. decisions. It's like, "Oh, we got a good. thing. Let's do more of it." As opposed. to, "We got a good thing. Let's cherish. it." Which I think is what people get. mad about with everything. Which is why. when college sports changes as much as. it does and as drastically as it does, you're going to get the uproar. immediately. As long as the electricity. remains, nobody will care. But all.

anybody cares about is the fact that. we're probably gonna lose electricity. because of this move. So why would we. want to do that? That is kind of the. immediate backlash that this type of. sees. >> Yeah, I mean you're you're right. I mean. it was perfect. No one was complaining. about the size of the NCAA tournament. Um yes, it's going to be the big it's. they're probably going to take uh all. the teams that were in the crown. So WVU. could have absolutely made a run because. they did I don't know if you guys. remember won the crown so they were. getting hot at the right time. >> Yeah, we remembered. >> Absolutely do not remember. Thanks for. >> You didn't remember that? No, thank you. for the reminder though. That was a TP.

>> Let's go ahead and revisit. Maybe they. moved the crown before the tournament. You win the crown, you get to the elite. eight. >> Now we're talking. >> Now all of a sudden it's a special. seven. [laughter]. >> Yeah, you special. >> Yeah, it's a special seven. The crowns. go out the eight seed. >> Yeah, I like that. >> Like seven shoots and ladders slide. right in. >> You know what's next though? CFP's next. >> That's what everybody's like, come on. Come on. >> But that hasn't been figured out for 50. years. Agreed. Which is the difference. We had this conversation earlier. The.

college football playoffs are still. being kind of tweaked and figured out. right now as we speak in real time. Bad. decisions are going to be made. Good. decisions are going to be made. And then. 10 years from now would probably settle. in to what it's supposed to be. The. amount of teams where they're playing, when they're playing, how they're. playing, which is all getting worked. out. Moving the calendar up to week zero. being actually week one, so that we. don't have to go all the way into. January or whatever the case is. So it. can get done before the new year so it's. not absolutely absurd with how long. everything is. That's going to change. The amount of teams going to change. It. already has changed. So, it's like the.

football one still being figured out. Okay. I don't think we've had a home run. success of saying yes, that is the. perfect way to do a tournament. People. have done that for March Madness for a. long time. So, like the football one. still going to have some ass decisions. made, but I think it's still trying to. get figured out. >> And the the bubble itself, like last. year we had the big thing with ND where. it's like, you know, hey, if Notre Dame. got in, like there's a ch I mean, who. knows? maybe they could make a deep run. and and potentially go to the. championship. Like no one is saying that. with any of these teams that are on the. bubble currently. It's like, hey, a team.

that went 17 and 18 and like they're not. going to go win a national championship. They're just not. So if that's all we're. going to do is just, hey, we want to. take four more teams from the Big 10 and. four more teams from the SEC and get. them in like then just come out and say. that that's what we're doing. >> and the Big 12. >> Sure. Definitely. Absolutely. >> Definitely Big 12. We know that. And I. still think we should not completely. rule out the crown getting one of the. Elite 8 spots. >> and it should be from last year. So, we. should already have it. >> an automatic bid. The crown [laughter].

should be an auto. >> Yeah, I think it's something to think. about. Let's go to some NFL news. There's still a lot of great free agents. out there. Jawan Jennings is the one. that we have chatted about obviously the. most because I think we would all like. to see him on our team. An absolute dog. and a fantastic wide receiver. He's with. the Minnesota Vikings uh today. Kyler. Murray, Justin Jefferson, Jordan, uh. Kevin O'Connell. Maybe the Vikings do. start piecing some together. Hasn't. signed a deal, but he's certainly. visiting. Who are some other free. agents? Well, >> don't forget about Kano. >> Ever.

>> You forgot about him. You forgot about. him. You forgot about him. You forgot. about him. >> He's a legend. Two of those. Never. forget about him. >> Oh, AJ, you forgot about him. >> AJ did actually for sure. >> No, no. He came on here and talked about. bunk bedding or whatever it was called. >> Is that what you call it? >> Earthquake. Quake. Quake. And bunk bed. >> There it is. Yeah. the, you know, where. you demonstrating how you lay on your. back and you you kick the bed. >> Yeah. Listen, you soak and then you. quake. It's different evolutions of, you. know, having sex without having sex. Yeah.

>> Cuz somebody else is kind of bouncing. your penis up inside of what's going on, you know, so it's not actual sex, >> but he has said a lot more on our show. than just quaking AJ. Okay. He has been. a great friend of the program around. here. And I like the fact that he is. seemingly nowhere near done. It's like. for the last four, three, four years. it's been like what's he going to do? Where's he going to go? Went down to. Miami and end up not working out. Goes. back to New England obviously gets. released. Then he's a free agent. Comes. on this show, bodies Con man in the. sideyard, then he gets signed to the.

Ravens. That becomes like a real home. for him. He loves He was with the. Chargers in the meantime in there. It's. like Kyle Vanoi loves ball. I think he's. always been productive, especially. during these years where people probably. have overlooked him a bit and he's. saying, "Hey, I'm still free agent out. here. I'd like to continue to play. football." I think he's earned the uh. respect to be able to put on the list. And why not right at the top there, Dbut? >> Why not? You know, pass rushers, you can. never have too many pass rushers. He's. still got some uh some tread left on. that tire. I'm surprised Andoku is still. out there as well. He is a weapon at.

that tight end position. And uh Sneeed. as well. Sneeed was one of the highest. paid corners on the market a couple. years ago. Did not work out at all down. in Tennessee. But I wouldn't be. surprised if the team kind of kicks the. tire on Sneak. >> Huge names on this free agent still. available. huge name and this doesn't. even have Aaron Rogers on here and Aaron. Rogers is now uh under the U of attack. So, is he even one of these? We're not. 100% sure. AJ, any names on here that. kind of stick out to you? How about. Bobby O' Carrick? >> Okare. No question. But what about. Tyreek Hill? What's his status? Will he.

be healthy at the start of the season? Do we know anything about him? >> Got surgery, right? >> Yeah, I didn't think he was going to be. healthy. Yeah, he needed another surgery. was kind of the last report and he would. be like a midyear towards the end of the. year, but still worth Kanan Allen will. get you a first down. >> Oh yeah, >> Kan Allen will get you a first. >> Bobby Wagner will get you 140. >> Devon Digs had a really great year last. year. >> Yeah, I um I like the names that are. out. >> Cam Jordan is available. That's crazy. cuz normally he's just a saint. >> Joey Bosa, >> we wish all these boys good luck. Good. luck, boys. Good luck, boys. Good luck.

>> Clear you, Kyle Vanoi. Uh New York. Knicks are winning basketball games. >> Don't look now. Celebrity row packed. >> Yeah, again packed to the gills. All the. celebs are out to see the New York. Knicks play basketball in warm weather. >> There's a lady, you know, there's Ben. Stiller. Oh, there's Kylie. There's. Shalam. >> Stru last year. >> Uh there's uh Tina. >> and there's uh. look at us. [laughter]. >> That was a good bit. >> Trico is phenomenal, by the way. >> Yes, >> I'm very happy that he's back doing.

things in prime time on a regular basis. in front of us. Shalamé, obviously. diehard Knicks fan. Okay. Actually. diehard Knicks fan. He's not the only. one. Tracy Morgan obviously die hard. >> Ben Stiller is an actual diehard New. York Knicks fan. >> Okay. Sorry, dude. >> At least Well, we know Ben still. >> Well, we know what Yeah, we know what. line of the house he stands on. >> Jeez. Yeah, certainly [clears throat]. do. What?

>> AJ was disgusted. I'm not talking about. this guy. Not after that tweet the other. day. >> Well, that's what I'm saying. I think. people need to understand that Ben. Stiller is a diehard New York Knicks. fan. Flew to Indiana multiple times. He. has been a diehard Knicks fan. He wakes. up in the morning, tweets like, "GOOD. LUCK TO THE KNICKS TONIGHT." [laughter]. He is. Ben Stiller might be the biggest. Knicks fan on earth. He is allin the. time. So whenever the Knicks get a win. in the series and says, "Got it done.". He tweets it out there. Then what.

happens happens, especially because. everybody knows kind of his political. views and everything. There's Yeah, that's because everybody was like, "Hey, You. >> son of a bitch.". >> But I would like to go on the record as. somebody that I don't think Ben Stiller. is necessarily like, "Yeah, I like Pat. McFe." Like, I don't think he's saying. it. He is a a loyal, active, diehard. Knicks fan. And there's a lot of these. celebs that we all immediately want to. go, fake, that's not real. You are just. doing this for publicity. I think Ben. Stiller is willing to die for the. Knicks.

>> Yeah, I I think he would be willing uh. to do that for the Knicks. So he did it. again last night obviously. It's like I. I would just I would like to extend a. public a Ben Stiller does this on a. regular basis. I don't think he meant. anything by it. Although it was terrible. timing and I appreciate the fact that. those celebs over there that we've. gotten to meet, especially from the. whole call out situation. >> where John Melanchamp took their side. >> Yep. >> Never forget that. Uh they are. >> they are feeling the way we feel about.

our football teams and I have massive. respect for that. I have massive respect. for that and I couldn't have expected. especially if I was outside never met. these people. I would just call that all. Like that is all Ben. Stiller though is and Shalamé at least. those two are all in all the time. >> Yeah. Like Ben Stiller is as big of a. Knicks fan as Bradley Cooper is an. Eagles fan. Like Ben Stiller is watching. 82 regular season games and then he's. going to every single one of these. playoff games. Like it is one of those. things where you have to respect it cuz. no matter what it is just as a sports.

fan if you are willing to sit through a. you know November Knicks game against. the Washington Wizards and watch the. entire thing just hats off to you. And. Ben Stiller is actually doing that. He's. like in the dirt sheets reading about. stuff with the team. Like you have to. understand how big of a fan he is and. just kind of tip your. >> captain. And I think Timothy Shalomé. rescheduled some like numerous things. Oh yeah. That just so he could get to. like a potential preseason game. Like he. uh. >> I respect how much they love sport.

>> Yeah. >> I like how much they love sport. Yeah. >> And on that note, >> you guys ain't winning this year. >> We'll see. [laughter]. >> We'll see. You You might be right. I. mean, Brunson's too short. Cat's too. soft. >> No. No. I didn't say any of those. things. I didn't know what. you're saying. those things. >> We hear it all. It is really cool. though, Ben Stiller. He's kind of like. the leader of the Knicks Twitter. community. Um he's connected with like. the Knicks Twitter content creators and.

um had him out court side. He pulled up. to there's like a a Knicks influencer um. like pickup basketball tournament. He. pulled up to that. I think he played in. it. So he he is as real as it gets. There are a lot of fake Nick fans out. there. Um but but he's the man. >> Okay. And I everything that he said. about the Knicks, >> no, >> is not what I think. >> No, I'm just saying. I'm just saying in. general, >> what I'm hearing is what the Knicks fans. say when they lose. >> This coach sucks. Mike Brown needs to be.

fired. Knicks fans. >> We know that that's not true at all. Um, and a part of why the Knicks community. is so awesome is cuz we're we're. probably on year four now of being good. Before that, we were the Detroit Lions. of the NBA. We are one of the if not the. biggest laughing stock of the league and. because it's a big name uh you know. Madison Square Garden and all that it's. a block. Why do the Knicks suck? It's. Isn't it hilarious? Dolan stinks. Like. all that um is a huge part of why. we are so obnoxious when we're up and we.

are up and we are outside and we'll see. how it goes with the C's, baby. >> Yeah, I enjoyed I enjoyed. >> two with the Hawks. I Yeah, but I. enjoyed I enjoyed the Knicks and the. Pacers last year a lot. >> I mean, I enjoy and we were in New York, I think, for a couple of those Knicks. games, not when they were playing the. Pacers, maybe the series before. And I. think Jaylen hit a game winner and we. were in New York hat very low obviously. in that entire thing just amongst kind.

of the city and it's like this place. loves the Knicks like they. >> the league's better when they're good. >> Yeah. But New York people actually. genuinely. >> Mhm. I think they love the Knicks and. obviously Jaylen Brunson gets to a point. where he never misses. It was outrageous. to watch him do that. I think he'll only. continue to do all that. But if the. Knicks go, we will be pumped for you. guys. But is Missoula still up there and. running 13 deep on his roster? Cuz I. heard some chatter about this Knicks. team. They're not deep enough. Feels.

like that's always the. >> way deeper way deeper than last year. Last year with Tibido, it was true. We. did not play our bench. We had no bench. Um this year, you know, we got uh Jordan. Clarkson coming off the bench. Deuce. McBride is is healthy as well. Um so we. are we played nine last night uh real. minutes. Jos Alvar Alardo there. Uh. Grand Theft Alardo. Um we're deeper than. we have been. We're fully healthy right. now. Um and much better than last year. And you know that sees Nick series last. year. There were a lot of meltdowns down.

the stretch. If we're doing stuff like. going 0 for 14 in the fourth quarter, >> it could be a bit of a repeat of that. 3-1 lead with Jason Tatum last season. >> They bought the wood up there in Boston. though. I'm excited to see how it goes. I enjoy the Knicks. I enjoy their fans. and I thought Ben Stiller getting. crushed the way he was. He's just tough. time. That was just terrible timing. obviously, but he is consistent. I. believe we should give him a little bit. of leeway for being an actual sports. fan, which he certainly is. Welcome. back, AJ. Tonight we got three NBA.

playoff games. Magic at Pistons 7 on. Amazon. Pistons favored by 10 and a half. still. Is it 10 and a half? >> It changed cuz the Fron hammering the. magic. >> 10 and a half. Okay. 10 and a half is. the spread at this point because the. Fron Vagner news uh leading player for. the Orlando Magic is out this evening. Uh that's feels pretty big. Raptors at. Cavs 7:30 on ESPN. Cavs favored by 8 and. a half. And then. >> the nine and a half. >> Okay, that's at 9 and a half. So, the. odds have changed since the show has.

started. Rockets at Lakers Lakers. favored by 4 and a half. Austin Reeves. by all accounts returning. The Late. Show, Late Show could return here 10. p.m. Eastern on ESPN. Can't wait to be. up till 1:00 a.m. again. >> Actually, especially if Braun. >> Yeah. >> and Austin Reeves start going crazy. And. if the Rockets fight back and make this. 3-2, all of a sudden it's like, whoa. >> Back to Houston. >> People are gonna say a lot of things. about LeBron. >> Yeah. If this doesn't get closed out, he. knows that.

>> Especially if he has another game like. he did game four. >> It did look like he was kind of. chilling. >> No, he's playing House of Money. He. plays great. He's like, "Oh, he's 41. How the is he still doing this?" He. plays bad. He's like, "It's 41. How's he. even doing this?". >> They were also up 3 0. It felt like in. that game four he was like, "Let's see. if the other guys could do it. I'm gonna. It looked like he was chilling. >> Conserve a little bit.". >> They were also missing shots early. It. was You could tell almost like. immediately that this doesn't look like. the same Lakers team. LeBron not as uh. kind of maybe dominant early, but then. also every shot not fallen and it's like.

uh oh gonna have to make shots I think. with all the injuries that you have. Rockets get a huge win. LeBron still. absolute stud. Uh can't wait to watch. that particular. >> evening of hoops there. And then hockey. Canadians Lightning ESPN 2. That series. tied 2-2. That should be phenomenal. stuff. Lightning heavy favorites. You. like them? >> I mean it's just it's been the best. series. They they both score a lot of. goals. We talked about Swayman, how. absurd he's been. I think Vasileleski. for the Lightning is a finalist for the. Vzna Trophy, which is the best goalie.

And the fact that the Canadians are even. getting that many pucks on net and. scoring with the Lightning, where the. Lightning were kind of like the runaway, don't want to play that team in the. playoffs. That series has been. unbelievable. >> Mammoth and Golden Knights at 10 p.m. on. TNT. That series tied 2-2 as well. Exciting stuff across the board there. And then Penguins Flyers right there at. 7:30 on TNT. That That's a big one. >> Oh yeah. >> The Penguins have woken up. It appears. the Flyers are a VERY TALENTED TEAM. >> COME ON, BOYS. >> Is this thing going to seven? Is this.

thing going to Is it Sydney Crosby in. seven or will the Flyers in that stupid. mascot shut the door tonight? We shall. see. We'll be back tomorrow to talk. about it all. We can't thank you enough. for allowing us to do this for a living. You're the greatest people on earth. Be. a friend. Tell a friend something nice. It might change your life. We're in this. thing together. AJ, great work today, pal. >> Great work, guys. Appreciate you. the. Duck. Great work this week. >> Great work, brother. >> Hey, congrats on the golf course. Big. time dub. >> Thank you. >> They were saying you lost it and Dirty. was about to beat your ass for the rest. of your life. >> He's, you know, one and 27.

[laughter]. >> Great work this week. Way to get back on. top. Had to. >> be a friend. Tell a friend something. nice about my change your life. We're in. this thing together. Team on me. Team on. three. 1 2 3. GOODBYE.