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[Applause]. [Music]. Hello beautiful people and welcome to. our humble bow. The thunder note on this. BA day September 2nd 2025. This program. begins now. Football. >> is magical and obviously there's so much. to talk about. We are just 2 days away. from the NFL season kicking off. We're. completely wrapped with week one of the. college football season and football.

season has officially begun. You you can. almost feel the crisp in the air saying, "Hey, welcome to football season." Hey, you know what's around the corner? All. the holidays. You know what else? Meaningful football. Literally starting. on Thursday night as Philadelphia host. the Dallas Cowboys. A lot of stories. coming out of Dallas. David Mulleetta, who is uh Michael Parson's agent, was on. with First Take this morning and said a. lot of from his side that we hadn't. heard. You know, the whole shove it up. my ass is what Jerry Jones said that the. agent told him. He said, "That's not.

what I said at all." He gave a couple. answers. We'll talk about that. But we. know it's football season whenever we. start getting our uh weekly guests. >> Yeah, that's right. >> We announced last week, Coach Rule will. be joining us every single week. We. announced Coach Sabin will be joining us. every single week. >> Uh as you saw in the opening shot, there. was a Kangle hat sitting in the back. corner. That can only be one man. >> That man happens to be uh football coach. for 47 years of his life. >> Only fired nine times. Wow. threetime.

Super Bowl champion. Ladies and. gentlemen, Bruce Harren. >> BA, we can't appreciate you enough for. uh doing this. I'm obviously a huge fan. of yours. I got a chance to watch you. work both whenever I was a fan at home. as the Pittsburgh Steelers and then with. the Indianapolis coach for the year. where you were the interim coach. I just. so happened to sit next to you in the. team meeting for the first couple weeks. before you became the head coach. Got a. chance to learn about you quickly and we. all watched you work and do your thing. not only respectful to Chuck Mana, the. man that hired you as the head coach, but the way you were able to command uh.

everybody's excellence because of who. you were and the amount of respect. everybody had in the room for you. It. was really cool to watch you do your. thing. And then obviously you're the. only person that's given AQ Shipley a. job. So, we are very thankful for that. Two of them. Yeah, a lot of them. Yeah, we are. Uh we're very appreciative of. you, man. And uh this year will be a fun. one. Have you looked forward to what the. season's going to be having to talk. about it every single Tuesday? This is a. pretty big spot here. Monday Night. Football is going to end. The entire. weekend's going to wrap and we are going. to be looking through your brain to tell. us how we should feel about everything.

Right, boys? >> Yeah. So, Tuesday, you're going to be. setting our thoughts and narratives for. everything. Have you thought about that? And uh thank you for agreeing to do. this. >> Oh, man. It's my pleasure, boys. It's. it's an honor to be here and looking. really forward, excited, ready to roll. >> You're one of our first guests whenever. we were still doing the show in the. basement of my house. you joined us and. uh you've always been incredibly cool to. me both while you were coaching uh uh. while I was retired while I was playing. and we can't thank you enough and you. look so cool. >> always. I could feel the cool you know. kind of radiating from nine NFL vet uh.

Darius Jay Butler is here. Is that your. son day red from Tiger Woods right. there? >> Hey presence of greatness today so I had. to you know wear the gold stuff you know. had to do it. >> Bruce a big time golfer. >> Mhm. Bruce, uh, also a guy, uh, BA is. not scared to let a wedge know that it. is no longer supposed to be in a bag. It. is supposed to be in the bottom of a. pond. One of the greatest club throwers. of all time. I think wood people would. say about you. >> I think we tried to count them the other. day. There 16, 17, and 18 are great. waters where I live. It's all water.

>> I've lived there 19 years now. I think. there's 37 club. >> Seven irons, eight iron, a few putters, a lot of putters. a lot of actually paid. one kid to go in there get 500 bucks. You go I like that damn putter. I don't. know why. >> That's that competitive spirit. 47 years. as a coach. You got to love ball. And. you have more stories about players from. the history of the game. Uh we can't. wait to hear them all. Literally just. sitting over here. It's hard not to just.

hey hey we're for three four hours. before the show starts. It's hard not to. just ask about everything. We got to. save some of the stuff for the air which. we will. toxic tables here at Boston. Connor and at Tai Schmidt. Hey, David. Mulagetta on with First Take was uh. intriguing. I think it was. So, while I. was in Australia, Don Under, uh, beautiful country, great food. Don't. have to get into that again. But, uh, Michael Irvin had Jerry Jones on his. show, and I must have missed this clip. until very recently. Here's Jerry Jones. chitchatting about, you know, following.

up on the negotiated agreement that he. had with Micah Parsons over dinner or. whatever it was and reaching out to the. agent to make it uh official in the. conversation. Here, here's how Jerry. Jones says that went. >> When we wanted to send the details to. the agent, the agent told us to stick it. up our ass. >> Oh. Oh, wait, wait, wait. Just so you're. clear. >> Wait, wait, wait. What do you mean? So, so wait. What do you mean? Mike and I. >> Yeah, Mike and I talked and then we were.

going to send it over to the agent. and uh we had our agreements on term, amount, guarantees, everything. We were. going to send it over to the agent and. the agent said uh don't bother uh. because we've got all that to negotiate. Well, I'd already negotiated. I'd. already moved off my mark over several. areas. So he said, "Listen, I already. gave up a lot in this negotiation with. Micah." And then, you know, the. conversation then leads, "How much can. you really get negotiated at a dinner?

Did Micah know he was in the middle of a. negotiation?" Well, Mulligetta responded. about the stick it up your ass comment. and don't even bother. Here's how he. says it went down. >> When he made a contract offer, he. brought up some stick it up your ass. comment that that that came out of your. mouth of the mouth of the representation. for Micah Parsons. I want you to address. that and whether or not there's any. truth to what he articulated to myself, to Michael Michael Irvin and others in. regards to that. >> Yeah. Yeah. You know, I it might be hard.

for some to believe, but I don't think. I've ever used that phrase in my life in. my 40 plus years. I definitely wouldn't. use it uh with somebody that I have to. work with or somebody that I plan on. working with in the future. So, no, that. that wasn't true. And it was a. misrepresentation of what I said. What I. did tell them was if they believe that. the contract was already finalized and. they were sending it over to me to be. rubber stamped, uh, then, you know, they. probably shouldn't send it over. >> Okay. So, he said, "This is not over. We're still in the middle of this." Now, you obviously 47 years coaching, who. knows how long, three decades plus, I. assume, with the NFL, in the NFL, still.

around the NFL. When these types of. negotiations get this tense and this. ugly, uh, is this a definite outcome of. a trade or have you ever seen like money. make up for these? Is this normal to. have this much tension in a negotiation. that happened? >> I've seen a few get really hot uh and. then owners pay the fine when they don't. show up. But never like this. Not like. this. Not Not this public. These things. getting so public now. They never used. to get this public. >> Jerry Jones, you never coach for the.

Dallas Cowboys, right? >> No. >> You obviously have a lot of friends who. have been down there. Different place. because it's operated fully like a. business. I think after watching that. documentary, everybody's takeaway is. like Jerry's obviously one of the. greatest promoters of all time. He was. maybe supposed to be in wrestling uh in. maybe fighting promotions or something. like that. Instead, he had a love of the. Dallas Cowboys and of football. He runs. it like a business tours through the. building throughout the season. You. know, the weight room you're being. watched. There's I I think there's. actually a an office building next to. the practice field so people can rent.

the offices to watch. Everybody around. here has such a panic and a fear of what. Bill Bellich's watching practice like if. there's a plane flying over top of. practice. Bill Poland was shutting down. pra nobody move. >> until that thing gets out of here. Who. is it? That's them. We know that's like. that is how I think like yeah exact. that's exactly how you feel as well. So. like when you hear that stuff out of. Dallas and then you see how loud this. type is that suitable to win or. conducive to win a Super Bowl like you. think you can do that with how hard it.

is to win a Super Bowl already? Like I. think a lot of Cowboys fans are like. instead of running like a business and. wanting to stir up drama, like let's try. to win a Super Bowl. Like that would be. cool. Do you think it's possible with. how hard it is to win a game in the NFL? >> Yeah, I think bygones can be bygones. when the money flies, you know, oh that. fixes everything, >> but those feelings never go away, you. know, and and I think it's very hard to. re reshape that relationship. It's going. to be a new relationship now. >> Yeah. >> It's it might have been I love playing. for you. >> Now it's him and this is business. him.

and Micah had done. I think the locker. room, we haven't heard the locker room. Dak Prescott said both sides are happy. about this. You know, both sides uh are. happy with the outcome. I think is Dak's. exact quote uh whenever he was. chitchatting about Micah leaving. They. get two first round picks. Obviously, Jerry Jones says, "Hey, the future's. bright with these four first round picks. over the next two years. Who says I. don't make a move right now?". >> And they paid Don Bland. He was able to. do that. But it's like, do you think. everything that Jerry Jones and the. Dallas Cowboys do? They haven't been. what 29 years since. Do you think it is.

capable of winning a Super Bowl this. time? >> Yeah, I think so. The one thing they do, everything they believe is the best for. the Cowboys. Now, if we believe it, that's a different story. But what they. believe that and Jerry and Steven really. think every move they make is the best. thing for the Dallas Cowboys to win a. Super Bowl. >> Do you think it is though? Do you think. like tours around the building and stuff. like that? >> I would go crazy. Yes. Yeah. Exactly. That's what I'm trying to get at here. Like it's really hard to win and they're. selling VIP tickets for people to. overlook practices. It's like even me as.

a punter. Bottom of totem pole, which I. think is actually like the most powerful. position, but the saying is bottom of. totem pole as if it means nothing. So, let's just say bottom of totem pole. Reality top of totem pole though, least. important person in there. If we have a. fake punt practicing and there's five. people that I don't know watching, I as. punter going to go, I'm screwed. that. person is gonna tell somebody it's gonna. do that. Imagine that for every. practice. I don't know. I every coach. Mike McCarthy said he's just a part of. it. You just got to do that entire.

thing. I think Dr. Pepper's in the. building. I think they they actually are. in the building, which by the way, 88. years supporting college football. I. think Jerry Jones should be pumped that. Dr. Pepper's in that office building. overlooking their practice field as. opposed to somebody else who maybe runs. the Eagles or the Giants or the. Washington Commanders, anything like. that. It is wild. Like that feels like. something that is very unique to the. Dallas Cowboys than anywhere else in the. NFL. >> Yeah. I go way back to the days when you. knew people were skunk in practice. All. right. Back in in the SEC, you see. somebody up in a tree and go get him.

You know, I remember Danny Ford got. caught jumping over the fence one time. as a young assistant scouting miss. And. uh. >> Danny, that baby Danny for the team. >> So it's like I've always had that. phobia. Who the hell's that? You. nobody's watching our practice. Nobody's. around our practice. I want black tarps. everywhere, you know. And uh I think way. back at at Alabama, Coach Bryant, there. was a pizza shop across the street and. all of a sudden he had a rooftop bar. He. shut that down quick. >> Yeah, I can imagine. I'm telling you, it. felt like that with everybody. I mean,

up there in New England with the. Greatest Dynasty, Bill Bich said nothing. to the media. I mean, there was they. were trying to get everything from. everybody else is what everybody. assumed. Like Bill Poland was shutting. down people that had hoodies too close. to their eyes at training camp. That's a. little suspicious. Go check that guy. What's he got? He's probably got those. He's probably got a camera on his thing. getting our practice and our calls right. now. Like that was the heightened sense. of like we are not allowing anybody to. get any of our stuff. And then down. there just the entire show. I think it's. great for us as like outsiders.

>> But I think like a lot of Cowboys fans. are like, "Hey, we became Cowboys fans. probably because of something like this, because of the spectacle, because of the. show. But now that we're here, hey, let's win a little bit. Let's try to do. that." I don't know if. >> they can still win, though. I mean. because you got to think they were they. were so far ahead of the times, you. know, 30 years ago, but they were still. winning. But it was so much [ __ ] They. were they were like the Beatles, you. know, they were all superstars. Michael. Irvin, Emtt Smith, Troy Aman, all these. guys bringing in Deion Sanders, but they. got the job done once they got inside. those white lines. The coach, whether it.

was Jimmy Johnson or Barry Swiss or. whoever it was, they got the guys going. So that's what it's going to come down. to. They have drafted well, you know, they have had got good guys in the. building, good enough players and good. enough teams to win 12 and 10 and 13. games in season. So, you have the. talent. So, you can't use that as an. excuse as a player coaching staff once. you get in there. Hey, you know, cuz if. you got a playoff game at home, like you. get the [ __ ] kicked out of you by the. package, they ain't got nothing to do. with the tours and all that. And this at. that point now, >> well, unless they know you're off going.

to be loud, every time you turn on ESPN. or any network, you're going to be. talked about. That's an extra an extra. weight. But um to be to be an excuse to. say that they can't win, will it be. tougher? Yeah, for sure. But I think. they can still get the job done and win. the games. And ultimately, winning a. Super Bowl is hard. You you're threetime. champ. It's tough to do. A lot of things. got to go right. But you got one of the. better quarterbacks in the league. You. got a decent roster around them. Uh I I. I still think they can get over that. hump and win. But with Jerry running the. show, >> a lot of distractions, man. I'm saying.

it's a lot of distractions. >> I think that's the key word, distractions. It's a lot of them, >> you know, because. >> you got to be like a certain type of. guy. I. >> today's today's the guys are different. All right. They're not they're not wired. in like the old guys used to be. So they. they're looking around. They're they're. always looking for that next opportunity. to to sell my brand. All right. So yeah, it's like this isn't the same guy guys. you used to coach. >> The the Michael Irvin, it's not those. guys. This is a totally different new. era. >> Well, and that's. >> and you can't blame them because it's. literally all been surrounding them.

Like this is just a reality. their. entire lives they've been surrounded by. this and like capitalizing off. opportunities and bringing a lot of. money. A lot of these guys are making a. lot of money very very young. So brand. building and money and business and. everything is very it's something that's. just their who they are at this stage of. life and I think everybody's going to be. going forward. But I think even back in. the day if social media was as prevalent. as it was right now I think Michael. might have got distracted a little bit. with the business opportunities like not. that he wasn't. playmaker handle it. Yeah, playmakers.

playmakers certainly show up on Sundays. and ball out. >> Mike Mike would have handled this. >> I don't get Mike is due. But I think. >> we love Mike. >> I think that's what you're saying. Like. if you're the fans, they take everything. that Debut's saying. It's like, yeah, now imagine if football was the main. focus and everything else wasn't, you. know, secondary where it's flipped. It's. like they have a lot of good players, they have all these things, but it still. seems like at the end of the day like. they're the most valuable franchise in. in the world and that is the end all. beall. Like football obviously if you.

win like that will help that but at the. end of the day like all the other stuff. comes before the actual football does. >> Yeah. Like it feels like the rise of the. Cowboys is because of Jerry and the fall. of the Cowboys is because of Jerry. Like. what he has done to build the Cowboys, the reason the Cowboys are the Cowboys. is because of Jerry Jones. And that was. very necessary for the NFL. Like that. was the big thing learning from the. documentary was realizing, you know, how. small compared to today is the NFL was. in the 80s and 90s. and Jerry helped. build all that and it was awesome and.

you needed the soap opera. You needed to. build the brand of the team because the. Cowboys are kind of the first and then. everyone else followed. But that was to. get money and to make the league. successful. Like now every team is worth. billions of dollars and now the league. is successful. So all that stuff that. made the Cowboys, you know, great in. this soap opera in the most valued. franchise in football is now the same. exact thing that is killing their entire. franchise. >> Maybe maybe we don't know. They might. win. That's why we got That's why I. don't like all the definitates. Like. Nico down there in Dallas with the. Mavericks, like if he ends up getting a.

team, >> if he ends up building a team within the. next couple years, everybody that's. saying you're the biggest doofus of all. time has to like kind of. >> Yeah, but but two like Nico had a half%. chance to win the first pick and he got. it and they got Cooper flag and that's. going to work out for Nico and it's. great. But that was [ __ ] lucky. Excuse me, but I didn't realize I was. pretty jacked up. >> Pretty jacked up. Yeah. But now like. with the Cowboys, it's different. Like. if Nico doesn't get the first pick and. they end up with some guy, >> I'm saying they do. >> They did. Yeah.

>> I was saying about the reality of the. situation that did happen. >> Yeah. They're straight to [ __ ] then. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. If they don't get the one. Yes, we. agree. >> But they did. So the reality of the. situation is Nico could say knew there. was always a possibility we get the. number one overall pick. Especially with. these things it ends up happening. People say it was half percent. you. know, half percent trade Luca, you know, and you know, like there's a way that he. could spin that as being a success. It's. just like the Atlanta Falcons when they. draft Michael Pennock right after Kurt. Cousins, they pay him $180 million, they. draft Michael Penn. We all kill him. We.

all kill him pretty big. And then. Michael Penn ends up being their starter. because Kurt goes through a funk. It's. like, all right, I guess maybe they had. a plan there. Uh Jordan Love draft Green. Bay Packers, same exact thing. We all. kill him. It's like sports are are. interesting. >> Jerry might get Arch. There's a chance. >> they might get arch in the next two. years. >> His arch. >> Well, yeah. Do they want him or Jeremy? >> So, so there is. But you're just saying. like you never It could end up working. out very well for Jerry. Definitely. >> But it's just all the [ __ ] that happens. on the dayto-day that makes you wonder. like is 2025 the right time to have all.

that distraction and still win. I don't. know. You're going to have to get people. to lock in. I will say this, everybody. that I know that's worked for the. Cowboys loves Jerry that he gives you. every everything you need and ask for as. a coach or a manager to win. And so I am. a fan of Jerry and Stephen. I think. they'd be fun to work for, but man, those distractions would drive me. personally crazy. >> Yeah, I guess the the weight room. watching is a hilarious people walking. through the thing. >> Mike McCarthy was the same though. He he. I mean he didn't say one bad thing about.

Jerry. >> Yeah, he loved Jerry and that was fresh. like that was. >> Yeah. after he got fresh out of the the. entire situation. Now, let's go to a guy. who's uh experiencing something brand. new, who's very good as an NFL coach for. a long time. >> Last night, we felt it. >> We were there in Chapel, Bill. Hey, that. first drive, I I would say five minutes. before kickoff, maybe 10 minutes before. kickoff, kickoff, first drive, touchdown. >> Here we go. >> Place going crazy. Light show. New light.

show in the stadium. Okay. They had Pety. Pablo out there. >> Pet TCU kind of stole Pety Pablo. I'm. going to say it. Pety Pablo comes on. screen says North Carolina. Look. Then. they start playing a song. North. Carolina's walking out from the tunnel, but the entire stadium's dark. They're. up on a jumbotron up here. Pety Pablo, North Carolina. [Music]. starts playing. I'm like, this is. awesome. >> Lights start hitting on the seats. It's. like North Carolina's doing it, man. TCU. middle of as beach dropping on that.

>> jogs out booze from everywhere. >> Oh no. >> So now the PD Pablo thing is dead. Just. TCU stole it. Just completely stole it. with the booze. So we're like, "Oh no, we got to recalibrate here." Changed the. song up there. Then the boys come out, place goes apeshit. >> Then that was the first time the lights. were on. The place was packed. 20. minutes before that game was about to be. kicked off. It was not packed out. There. was a lot of seats. There were still a. lot of seats. We're doing that kickoff. show and I think Matt Barry said like. this place is going to be packed and.

full of energy and I like looked around. I me and Dez looked around like we hope. so man like we we were literally hoping. so and it did and I think with the hills. and the traffic to get in there I think. that's a tough place to navigate. >> Good tailgating too. >> They had great tailgating tailgating. baby. It's all tailgating. >> Yeah, perfect weather. It was It was. >> great setups too. I saw some real nice. barbecue rigs out there brand on it. >> Yeah, there is some good stuff. Philip. goes crazy. TC almost steals it. They. come back. Place goes apeshit. They get. the ball. Interesting little coin toss.

there, you know, because they deferred. till the second half. Ask the North. Carolina guys what they wanted to do. Looked like there was a little bit of. confusion. Bill Bich situational. football here. This is the first time we. get an opportunity to do that. Want the. ball. Okay. Don't want to kick both. halves here. Yep. That's what you want. to do. Ref says that you want the ball. Got it. Okay. You'll take the ball. Kickoff. They go down and score. Place. goes crazy. We're sitting there. This. place is going to host college football. playoff game. We're saying that this is. going to be a college football playoff. game here. Bill Bichc, of course, we. just saw what Matt Patricia did to the.

Texas offense. Bill Bich obviously. doesn't matter if he's got all the five. stars. He's going to be able to outn. coach. He's going to be the superior. product on the field. He's going to be a. Bill Bichc team. That's what was being. said sure by us and everybody on his. place was going crazy. Music, all of it. All the lights. They turned off the. lights after a touchdown. Did the whole. thing. It was like this is what it is. Welcome North Carolina back to big time. football. It changed. >> They scored a lot of points. That other. team scored a lot of points. And it all.

goes back to there was one timeout where. they didn't play music. >> It was just the band playing. >> Oh jeez. >> Lights were out during a timeout. Just. band playing over there. Drum line did a. great job early. Just band playing over. there. I I felt it. I felt the entire. >> just come out of that. >> Here comes the storm. >> And on the other side, >> it was a TCU smacking the mouth's vest. You know, there's a lot of things that. are going to happen here. You know, Johnson comes in at the end of the game.

after snapping his leg in half last. year. What a great story. Throws a. touchdown to his little brother. That. was cool for the North Carolina. Tarheelss. But I think we we all were. reminded DCU is going to go football. team. >> Yes, they do. >> Now, I even said uh during my pick, >> DCU's got a lot to pull from here. Only. reason why we're here is because Bill. Bich is here. Like, let's just They knew. that. They heard that. They had 16. returning starters, a lot of vets. Quarterback can spin it. And Sunny Dikes. uh I think really loved this as opening. night for his team and they put on quite.

a show and they beat the hell out of. North Carolina last night. Boy, did they. ever. And uh I don't know what the. Tarheels look like. They got Charlotte. on Saturday. >> Charlotte is in North Carolina. >> Good opportunity. >> Okay, that is a short week. They got. Charlotte. A lot of people around there. saying if we would have won last night, Bill was going to be miserable because. we got Charlotte coming up. If we were. to lose tonight at Charlotte Cup, boy, it's going to be bad. It is. It's a big. one on Saturday for this North Carolina. team. >> Debbut, you were down there. Brooks on. the ground. You've seen it for yourself.

>> Yeah. >> Desmond said on the kickoff show. Uh. he's picking TCU, but I'm pulling for. these North Carolina guys. It felt like. there was two different levels on the. field last night for u most of. everything but the first drive. Mhm. >> How long does it take for Bill Bich's. coaching and development uh to kick in. for that North Carolina team. >> to become a squad? You know, what what. are your what are your thoughts? >> I mean, look, look, the coaching, look, I trust Bill. Bill knows football. The.

guys are going to be prepared. You. mentioned Matty P. Matty P's dealing. with different different ingredients, you know, different ingredients going. into that recipe. So, when you're. especially in the college level, it's a. little more fair, little more even. picking on the NFL level. And that. college level, he was kind of late to. the party with recruiting as well. One. one big thing that stood out yesterday, especially when we had paid on and I. talked to some guys who are tapped into. the college game on the sideline before. the game. Nobody had a clue what that. UNCC team, what that roster was going to.

look like. Nobody knew. They couldn't. tell me five players on that roster. So, that was alarming. You mentioned Sunny. Dyes and his team. We know it's a. talented ball club. I don't know if it. turns around. I don't know if it gets. better. It was ugly last night. It. started great. Look, they can never take. that first drive away from that first. They came out and executed it. It was. great environment. MJ in the building. LT's back. They didn't get to play. >> They none of them none of them ran out. of that tunnel and smoke. But uh it's. >> Randy E there with them.

>> I will always say this. >> Coaches don't get to play. >> Nope. >> You got to have players. >> Mhm. >> And they have a players. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. But if you're if you're a player, >> they have a players. Look, the their. other tied in white and purple, they. have players. >> Yes. >> All right. And Sunny Dy is one hell of a. coach. I actually coached with his dad, Spike, who was a great man, a hell of a. coach. Built Texas Tech back up. But. coaches, they don't win games. Players. win games. Coaches lose games. >> All right. You can have the great They. had the greatest coach in the world.

They ain't got no players. >> You ain't got no chance. >> Yeah, Steve. But you you got to think. like all those things you just. mentioned, like if you're a high school. kid and you see Lawrence Taylor and. Michael Jordan and all these legends at. a game, you might think, "Okay, that's. cool." But I believe they already got. like the number one QB of one of the. draft classes coming up. So I was going. to say there's plenty of time to switch. that around. I. >> hope so. These kids decommit now. All. about the cash, brother. Yeah, exactly.

Got a bunch. And if they're leaning on. that, like you think Michael Jordan's. coming next week. >> after last night, you think Michael. Jordan's flying back down there? >> I know Michael Jordan gets um I assume. UNCC Duke every time it's played there. fills up that stadium. 51,000 is max. capacity. >> I I assume he goes to the basketball. games and gets a lot of love. I mean, that was 51,000 people strong giving MJ. a lot of I mean, Coach Williams sitting. right next to him. They're not not even. a thing. Not even a thing said about and. it's just like Michael Jordan right. here. Don't worry about who's next to.

him. Couple national champions. Just. just look at Michael Jordan and uh at. the beginning whenever he got 51,000. going strong for him. It was awesome. Place went crazy. >> Fireman was amazing. >> What we felt that first drive. >> they're going to be hunting that. >> Okay. Yeah. >> That that is the that is everything we. need. That is what we're searching for. And for the TCU team, we all of us on. the set talking before the game and. everybody that was on the field very. much understood that you had all the. motivation in the world. Nobody was.

talking about you guys at all. But to be. clear, your game is probably on Saturday. at noon. >> if. >> if not so like true. >> You're on Monday night because of Bill. Showcase. >> and it was great for your team to go and. kill it. And uh they did dominate and. that Hoover boy. >> Oh, he can he can spin it. He can spin. it. >> Yes, he can. back. >> Interesting. Cat coach, what's the. message to the team after that? You. know, you come out there, you give up, you have all these expectations, you. have all these eyes you're trying to. seriously, you're building a new culture. um and you down, you're dealing with.

younger, much younger kids now, but like. what's the message to that team in the. locker room if you are Bill Bich going. forward? >> Honesty. >> Mhm. >> Honesty. You got to be honest with the. guys. Look, this is what we did good. This is what we did bad. We did a lot of. bad. >> All right. We can't get our ass kicked. up front like they kicked our ass. We. got to get better in the trenches on. both sides quick. And for Bill, it's all. about fundamentals. You know, Bill, I. mean, he's just going to go back to the. fundamentals and do his thing. They'll. be well coached. We all know that. And. uh but.

old saying, you can't make chicken salad. out of chicken [ __ ]. >> Is that the truth? >> All right. And that's the first time. Carolina football ever looked like that. >> That's I've watched Carolina football. for a long, long time. And they've never. had that atmosphere. Oh, you're talking. about the vibes. >> The vibe at their basketball school. >> Yes. >> Now, Mack did a couple he had a couple. great teams, but Carolina is never known. for football. I mean, they're the. tailgate city, and it's like that was a. great vibe to see. Now, if they can.

build off that, that'd be awesome. >> Yeah, it would be awesome. >> If they had if they had 30 recruit, top. recruits there, they they leave him. leave at the first quarter. Get him out. >> First drive. >> Yeah, right. >> I'm telling you that first drive, Paul, we got a lot of people at the FBO. That's like I I don't know what he's. telling his team, but I am pretty sure. Bill knew that they were going to get. the doors blown off him going into that. game. If we're talking about a guy who. would go in on. what, Saturdays or Fridays and tell the. entire team how an NFL game is going to. go and then for that to happen in an NFL.

game, like I I'm assuming he knew Sunny. Dykes is going to beat the piss out of. my boys tonight. But this is a. three-year thing. >> Oh, no, dude. I I was talking to the I'm. telling you, I don't They don't think. like that. a never enter his mind. It's a pathway. He also never said, "Hey, have fun out. there." I think this is a different bill. and he's telling guys to have fun. I'm. assuming he knew, hey, I got a bunch of. guys who were coming from Holy Cross. I. I I'm assuming my my center's probably. going to give a half hour, you know,

pump up speech before the game and and. then we're going to go out there and get. killed. But that's okay because I signed. a 10-year deal. I'm going to be here for. all 10 of them. And probably halfway. through this, we might turn it around a. little bit. Congrats to uh TCU. Huge. win. >> They're they're uh their to their ex. account. >> Hey, social media folks. Good work. >> They're ready. They were going last. night. >> Their general manager, Ryan Dorchester. door. Uh used to be equipment manager at. WVU whenever I was there. Great dude. Now he's the GM of TCU. I did not know.

that. I should have known that. Uh I saw. him right before I go out to do the. show. And I go, "Dude, good to see you. or whatever." He's like, "Yeah, I'm GM. here." Or whatever. I'm like, "That's. sick." because he worked his way up into. the coaching ranks and everything like. that and through uh football ops and he. was with Dana for a little bit and then. I think he was somewhere else and then. now he's the GM there and uh boy it. really felt like they they were excited. for the opportunity like I I think they. were very pumped. I think they didn't. know exactly what Bill's team was gonna. look like because I think we all there.

was a chance. >> nobody did. >> there was a chance that Bill was gonna. be able to get these guys we never heard. of all had perfect. >> they didn't have spring ball these guys. were only here for training camp. >> 70 new guys. >> three weeks. >> we thought there was a chance he was. going to be able to get you know schemes. in there course. >> and maybe keep the under too keep this a. low score. >> right he did that. >> instead TCU said we'll get it we got no. problem we'll go get it ourselves he. should have got Matt P to send Kum down. to some of them other players over. >> Uh definitely needed that. We should.

have given uh we need to give more love. to TCU. >> Yeah, >> definitely. >> And Saturday is a big one for UNCC. Uh I. mean this is a uh this is a mustwin for. >> laying 14 and a half now. Th. >> this is a big one for the Tar Heels. I. uh I think he needs to go with Johnson's. boy. >> Yeah, I think you're right. >> Big bad Brad Johnson. >> He was slinging it. >> I think he needs to uh to kind of be the. guy. Okay, ladies and gentlemen, joining. us now, uh, he is here for Gold Bar.

Whiskey, the official whiskey of the San. Francisco 49ers. Um, they have a first. ever collab drink with somebody. >> Oo. >> Now, I was not able to uh enjoy it this. morning. It's called uh it's called the. uh the Joe Montana Gold Bar with Double. Gold. >> Double Gold. >> Double Gold. >> Double Gold. We knew that was the name. >> Didn't we, BA? We talked about the name. all morning, >> all day. double. Well, maybe all day. We'll see. >> We probably will. >> Ty, you tried one of these things. It's.

a mule, right? It's whiskey. >> Yeah, pretty much a a whiskey mule. It. was uh it was a delicious. And I'm not. usually a canned cocktail guy. >> It is uh something that seems delightful. early. It's with that man. Ladies and. gentlemen, fourtime Super Bowl champion, threetime Super Bowl MVP, five-time. AllPro, and eight time Pro Bowl. Ladies. and gentlemen, Paisano greatness Joe. Montana. Thank you guys. Oh my. How's everybody? >> Well, we've already had a couple double. golds over here. How are you?

>> Hey, you know what? Um doing great. Just. uh happy to be a part. I've had a great. um connection with these guys and um. it's also, you know, part of the 49ers. are involved and um the drink and and. you said it best. I'm usually not a a. canned cocktail person either, but this. has been something that was um developed. and it's pretty refreshing and I have a. friend of mine who tried it who doesn't. like whiskey at all. He says now that he.

has it, he drinks one every night. So, >> Okay. Boom. >> Yeah. and it and it's available in. retailers now um around California and. on the on their website goldbarwhis.com. along with the retro bourbon that. they're doing for uh it's an 85 proof. for in in coordination with the Super. Bowl coming back to here that was here. in 85 in San Francisco and uh it's. another thing that we're involved with. that I'm involved with that I think.

people are going to love. >> 85 proof whiskey 8% alcohol can I We got. some good stuff coming out Goldbard. Distillery out there. You're right. Uh. happy you're involved with it all. Happy. that San Francisco 49ers and you are. still so damn synonymous. What do you. think about this season? It feels like. Christian McCaffrey back healthy is a. much better place to be than where we. were literally one year ago when we just. learned I don't know how much you knew. before everybody else. When we find out. that Christian McAffrey has the word uh. Achilles involved in anything, we.

obviously immediately worried it was. tendonitis. He basically missed all. year. We found out like three days. before the season started that kind of. dampered everything and I think the. season went this year feels like could. be a bounceback year for the Niners in a. big way. How do you feel? >> Yeah, I think so. I mean that they. definitely have the team to be able to. go in and compete with anybody. Um, you. know, obviously with Christian coming. back is a huge plus of that offense. takes a lot of pressure off the. quarterback. Um, so I and I think he got. a little uh feeling the pressure where.

he felt like he had to do and contribute. more instead of just going and you know. doing what he'd done uh for his whole. life and just be yourself and we always. have that tendency that we want to make. the change and make it quick and now we. got to make something happen. And so um. I think he just got caught up in that. and I think you'll see a different. player uh coming up this year. >> Do you like Brock Perie a lot Joe? How. have you got the chance to talk to him? It feels like you guys have similar. mindsets. Uh, I'm not 100% sure if you. feel that way, but he seems to be ultra. competitive and very cool, which.

obviously you have similar traits. >> Yeah, I mean, I I really like him. I He. He usually doesn't make a lot of. mistakes and uh you know, he's careful. with the football. Um he's got great. placement of it as you can see here. And. um I I just I just think he's got the. right demeanor and you know, everybody. has those kind of years. I had them. every everyone you can go to and look. around at anybody, Brady, everybody. You. know, when injuries start taking place,

you know, your whole team changes and. then um the quarterback seems sometimes. that it's all rides on their back that. they sometimes believe and so they start. doing things they wouldn't normally do, but I think he'll be fine. >> Shanahan's offense has a lot of running, a lot of power. You know, obviously. we've seen Trenton in motion and. everything like that. The Philadelphia. Eagles just blew out the Chiefs in the. Super Bowl. Feels like we're getting. back to some power football. You like. that, Joe? I feel like we uh we football. people all enjoy the way it's headed as.

opposed to where we all thought it was. going to go. Feels like it's cyclical. right now. >> Yeah. I always said, you know, when you. go back and you look at the teams who. win consistently, they always got a. pretty good running game and they stay. consistent with it. And obviously Philly. has had that. Um, but I also I saw some. guy named McAfee on a couple who. >> um highlights a little while ago. You. running with the ball. >> Come on, Joe. >> Kicking the ball. >> Joe, I'm from Pittsburgh, bro. You did. it. You know, you understand that this.

happens. >> I got you. I just want to let you know. it didn't go unnoticed. He did a little. bit of everything. >> Hold on to Twitter. Put That's going to. be on my descriptor now. Joe Montana saw. me make some plays, complimented it. That's huge for me. Joe pies on. I want. to let you know that is gigantic for me. Uh yeah, I think physical football is a. good thing for our sport and I think. it's also anytime we got the trenches. kind of deciding games which I think. we're at the point again once uh it. being that I think that's how the game. was supposed to be played. Tai has a. question for you about that Super Bowl. >> Yeah, Joe, when you look at the Chiefs,

you know, because they got beat so bad. by the Eagles, I think everyone's kind. of just writing them off this year and. and maybe it's Chiefs fatigue. Everyone. thinks, hey, they had their run. They're. kind of done. But with the the. documentary coming out, uh, the kingdom. on ESPN that kind of, you know, goes. over the dynasty that they've created. and everything, do you think Patrick. Mahomes, Travis Kelce, Andy Reid, and. the Chiefs are poised to have a big year. this year? Because it feels like. nobody's really given them a realistic. shot to win the Super Bowl. Well, you. know, we all we all always obviously.

have an offensive player, but everybody. points to the offense, but really when. it comes down to it, you can the teams. that win consistently up there have a. pretty good defense. And you can go back. over the years where we were, we had I. always argue with Ronnie a lot about. what was our better teams because. we had a little bit more offense later. in the years when you got Jerry Rice and. that, but I I think they'll be I think. they're fine. and they just but you got. to be able to stop people also and I. think that's the the thing about it is.

you can you can go back and look and. they they just didn't they couldn't stop. Philadelphia and when you can't do that. I don't you know you can score a lot of. points but you keep getting outscored. and uh although this was not that way. and like I said we all guys who've had. great years go back you can go back when. when Danny came here unfortunately Danny. and I are great friends but had a great. year but he our defense was number one. and everybody forgot about that. And. then you go back with El when we played.

um the Broncos in the Super Bowl and. just bad days. It started off bad for me. too. Even Dave Craig said, "Are you MVP. in this game?". Hang in there gets a little better, but. >> yeah, we got a good second half a. second. >> We all have those kind of days. And I. and I think that's you know, the Chiefs. been there, done that, kind of maybe a. little complacent. thought they they uh. they everybody was overlooking them, but. um the Philly with push on Philly, but.

Philly had a good team. Good team. >> Great team. They were able to get home. with just four guys, too. I think that. was But the offensive line seemingly. they had a guard playing tackle. They. really didn't have it figured out. Anytime Patrick Mahomes is running for. his life in a Super Bowl. Feels like. they're not going to win. Ain't that. right, BA? Ain't that right, BA? >> I think I think Vic Vic took a nice. lesson from our Todd did a great job of. of taking our front four and getting. after Patrick. I think he ran 5 miles. that night, but one of the greatest. throws I've ever seen right in front of. me. He's laying prone about to hit the.

ground, throws it, and hits a guy right. in the face mask and he drops it. >> Yeah. >> And Michael Mike Evans and Chris Davin. go, he's unbelievable. >> Yes. Yes, he is. Yes, he is. Always will. be. I'm excited to hear your answer to. his question actually here in a couple. moments, Joe. The two goats chitchatting. about a position we obviously have. massive respect for. Another person we. assume you have respect for. Go ahead, Con man. Yeah, Joe, speaking of KC, you. were there when Shottenheimimer was. there and now his son is heading into. his first year as a head coach of the. Cowboys. How do you think, you know, he's going to do and what do you think.

he needs to do to establish, you know, his culture, whether that is a old. school Shenheimer culture all the way. back to Casey or his kind of new take on. the Dallas Cowboys culture? Well, I you know, I'll take a page out. of Bill Walsh's book and say, you know, you when things were always going bad or. falling apart. Um, and I me alluded to. it a little bit earlier where everybody. wants to try to make something happen. Instead of going back to a fun, we went. back to the fundamentals. He would go. backwards, not forward. Not looking for.

something new. I'm going to go back to. what I know we do. And that's what he. needs to do when he gets with the. Cowboys. Go in there and like Pat said, you know, got to get the get that. running game going. take some pressure. off the quarterback and um because. there's a lot on him for sure um playing. where he's playing and um you know the. contract and controversial all those. things um they need to get the ball out. of his hand as much as they can and and. and that you do that with the running. game and so hopefully they can get that. established and um get back to the old.

school cowboy football. >> Jerry Jones wants to get back to that. old school. That's right. >> Yes, he does. We watch that documentary. I'll tell you what, I did not know you. get a hund00 million dollars just from. one oil rig, though. >> That was back in the day, too. >> Oh, yeah. Imagine that. >> That's what Believe me, I was watching. that. I'm like, >> a scratch off. He's kind of saying it's. like a scratch off. Speaking of. Powerball's 1.3 billion. >> Yeah, it's up. >> Look alive. That's tomorrow night. >> You can't win if you don't play. Exactly. Got to get out there.

>> It sounds like there's I could buy a lot. of gold bar double golds. >> Amen. You cannot buy double and maybe. even that 85 proof bourbon whiskey we. got out there. >> Yeah. You can't enjoy it if you don't. try it. >> Exactly. You can't win if you don't. play. Yeah. Hey, I like what we're doing. here, Joe. Uh, all right. Last question. before BA and you put together a segment. on this show that's going to be talked. about for a long, long time. Go ahead, Debb. >> Yeah, Joe, you kind of meant you kind of. alluded to earlier in that Broncos Super. Hot started ugly, but you had a great. comeback. You were named the comeback.

kid. Joe Cool. All those things. What. what is the difference with like those. great quarterbacks? Like I play play. against uh Payton or Brady or Big Ben. and those second half adjustments were. just huge. What's going through your. mind to play caller's mind when it comes. to making those adjustments and being in. the middle of these big comebacks? >> Yeah, I think I think. the big issue is just trying to get back. within what you were doing. Usually when. you start making mistakes, you're. outside of your your comfort zone. And I.

mean in that in that Super Bowl I was. skipping balls to the ground. So was. John and and he Dave Craig I he's. laughing at both of us but um you know. you just get settled back into the game. and um what what I really like to do was. get hit early. Hit me early and and that. wasn't happening. um I didn't get hit. early and and you just don't you can't. get into the flow of the game until you. get. >> you know a 300 pounder land on top of.

you wakes you back up and you and you. get right back and then now you know hey. I don't know what else is going on but I. need to get back to what I know I do. best and that's what we that's what we. did and we got back to our typical game. plan and um you know we knew they did. certain things where we could get a lot. of chances down the field deep with. Jerry and John and Um, so we ended up. trying to uh just work that and you go. to go to your sweet spot and that's what. we did with them.

>> Well, it worked out. Yeah. Everything. about you Yeah. Everything about you is. great. And now we're moving some whiskey. mules. Russian mule. And if you scan a. QR code that's on one of these cans, >> just. >> dude throwback old throwback jersey. >> No, this is clean. This is really clean. shirt. As soon as Ty saw that this was. potentially available, scan a QR code. immediately. >> Had to. >> Now, I I do believe it's going to be a. little difficult to go pick up the shirt. if you do not live near the Gold Bar. Distillery. >> Correct. Yeah, you got to pick it up in.

San Francisco. So, >> if you're taking a trip out there, >> Treasure Island, >> get yourself in Treasure Island. >> Well, you'll be out here. You'll be out. here for the Super Bowl. So, you'll be. >> scan away. >> There we go. >> I'm going to scan 10 of these things. I. own 10 shirts. I can't wait for it. They're great shirts. Uh Joe, you're the. man. Uh Bruce has a question for you. here, and I'm excited and eager to hear. this, actually. Yeah, Joe, I just wish. uh you all the best, too. And uh. especially in this endeavor, if you were. general manager, head coach today, >> pick the top three quarterbacks you want. to start your franchise with. And why?

>> I like this. I like this. >> And not Brock Bird. You can't take. Brock. >> Boom. >> Okay. Brock is your number one pick. We. know that. Yep. >> So, you love Brock Birdie. You love. Brock Birdie. >> Yeah. Um. >> I'm taking I'm I'm taking the guy in. Buffalo. >> Okay. Josh Allen. >> Yeah. All right. Josh. Um, you know, the. guy that surprised me that I thought. would obviously Joe Burrows, another guy. I like a lot. >> Okay. >> Um, and. >> and um, believe it or not, I like the.

guy in the with the Chargers just. Yeah. Just Herbert. I think they just. kind of they've kind of kind of gone by. the wayside there. But, uh, I don't. know. I just I just like the way they. all those three guys are. >> BA, how do you feel about his talk? do. like I do also like the guy in Philly. though and we'll get most. >> Jayen Herz okay just won a Super Bowl we. do we do like him Brock party obviously. number one he was left out Josh Allen. Joe Burrow Justin Herbert and Jaylen. Herz is his Mount Rushmore outside of.

Brock party ba did you expect that from. Joe Montana. >> I thought he might have thrown Patrick. Mahomes in there but you know I I think. it states how. >> I would I I think I would have if it was. if he was younger. >> children. although Although although I got to go. back they're not getting hit as much. today. So we probably play forever. So I. I should have probably added Patrick in. there. Uh. >> I tell for for us it it states how well. we are in National Football League right. now with quarterbacks. >> I think everybody's worried about where. are these quarterbacks coming. We've got.

some really great young quarterbacks uh. in the league right now and I think the. league's in a great shape. >> Next generation, right? Is in a good. spot. >> It's in really good shape. >> Went for I went for youth. >> Yeah. As part of your GM. Yeah. You're. running a 10-year business plan here. Just like. >> you want them to stay on their rookie. contracts. I know. >> Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. >> Yeah. We're getting some free agents out. here somewhere. >> Contract for contract. >> Yeah. Double gold with some people. You. know, we'll have a good time. Uh well, we appreciate you, Joe. Good luck with. the double gold. Congrats on another uh. we assume very successful business. venture and good luck to your Niners.

this year. >> I appreciate it. Thank you. And hope to. see you in LA. >> Yeah, you will. >> You will. I love that place. Ladies and. gentlemen, Joe Montana. and go. >> I'd assume that's where he is right now. >> Mhm. >> Is that uh Ellison's. >> Yeah. Yeah. You know, just bought it. Just bought the place. It's. >> I've already bought the. >> It's not good. It's a terrible place. >> Yeah, I was going to say you better. >> It's It's horrendous. >> Don't go there. >> Don't go there. Do not. >> uh do not please. It is uh really far.

away, but it is beautiful. >> I mean, it basically it sounds like. everything sweet and cool and places to. go to are. >> really far away. far away. Australia and. Hawaii. >> Well, if it's Joe Joe's place, you know. it's cool cuz he invented cool. >> Yeah, legit always just like this. How. about him waking up? >> Yeah. >> Full of boys. >> I mean, does BA know the story? >> Which one? >> Of him stopping a kidnapping with a. football? >> Yeah. So, it has not been the details. have not been exactly confirmed.

>> They've never been denied. >> or denied. We shall say somebody tried. to kidnap his grandbaby and he stopped. it. Uh that's actual story. >> Now how did he stop it? We've exercised. our minds a little bit to see how it. could have went. He's upstairs. >> Somebody comes in through downstairs. Can see the stairs. Maybe a spiral. staircase. It's down there at the. bottom. Kidnapper comes in. Give me you. baby. Joe Montana. Excuse me. Here's. that upstairs. He steps out. He sees it.

He actually kicks the the plaque. >> Yeah. >> That has the football from the catch in. it, I think. >> Boom. Grabs that ball. >> Throws that thing down the stairs. Kidnapper holding baby. >> Tight spot. >> right here. >> Bang. Right in the forehead. >> Boom. He slides down ramp. Catches. kidnapper. >> before head hits ground and baby hits. ground. Snags baby foot on top of. kidnapper. Somebody call 911. >> Yep. That's what Joe Montana did and.

that's what Joe Montana does. >> That's Joe. >> What else would he do? >> Exactly. I mean, >> that's why that's why we say that had to. be out of the way. >> Had to be had to be out of the way. But. that's a real situation that did happen. Somebody tried to kidnap his grand and. he actually stopped it. Wild times to be. alive. Shout out to Joe Montana. Shout. out to UBA. We have a new segment that. we're probably going to be doing each. and every week with our guy here. And uh. it's because he knows so much and also. he has a way of explaining things that. are no BS. Or are they? Ladies and.

gentlemen, welcome to BS or no BS with. BA. Okay, what we're going to do is put. some statements up here and uh BA is. going to tell us if the statement is BS. or no BS. Pretty easy. Pretty easy. segment here. Let's start with the first. one here. Um, Micah Parsons is worth two first round. picks. Is that BS or no BS? BA. >> That's no [ __ ] brother. He's the. best game record in the game right now.

>> Okay. So, you agree with that? >> I'm I'm giving two plus maybe a fifth. >> We all thought it was going to be a lot. more than just two first rounds. >> I was shocked this was all it was. >> How come that's always the case? It. feels like whenever a player gets. traded, it's always for something much. smaller than we expect. I think Randy. Moss was traded for a fourth rounder at. one point and I remember reacting in a. way like Randy Moss is only worth a. fourth rounder. Why does it always feel. like they go for a little bit less. especially if it's not right before. draft time? And Michael Parsons, do you. think there was a little personal stuff. that got in the way and why it was only. two first rounders?

>> Yeah, I I think this was a deal that was. going to be done because of what was. happening with the negotiations. >> You think Jerry just wanted a deal done? >> Let's get it out of here. They got Kenny. Clark. They got to stop the Eagles. They. got to beat the Eagles. I I agree with. Jerry saying we got to stop the run. Uh. Micah probably could do that a little. bit, you know. I know if they go to. third down, he's going to win, you know, so get him in third down and but I think. in Green Bay now, um. he would be a true game wrecker versus. the Vikings, the teams that are throwing. the ball in the NFC North. U I think.

it's great for the Packers. I think it's. good for the Cowboys. >> I think it's good for both parties. I. think it's great for us. They Dallas. Cowboys traded Michael Parsons in the. middle of the Dallas documentary. >> marketing. >> Jerry. always cooking. All right, let's go to. the next statement, shall we? Shotty. will be a good head coach because his. dad was a good head coach. Is that. definite? Is that BS or no BSBA? >> I think that's total BS. >> Okay. Well, no, no. What are you talking.

about? >> Because I think Scotty would be a good. head coach because he's shotty. He's an. offensive guy. First of all, his dad was. ultimate defensive coach. I worked for. his dad and had coached the running. backs and uh my son and Shotty were ball. boys together, but I think he'll be a. hell of a head coach, but he's been. around really good ones. He saw it since. he was this tall. He knows how to do it. He's got his own philosophy. And uh you. know, being an offensive guy is totally. different than being a defensive guy as. a head coach. And Tom Brady was the. first one to tell me that. I was the.

first head coach for that was ever. offensive guy for Tom. And uh I think I. think Brian would do a hell of a job. >> Why what's the difference? What did Tom. say? Just you the focus being more. offensive as opposed to defense wanting. to win in practices and such. >> A minute 10 left at the half. We're. winning by seven. We're just going to. run it out, right? Hell no, bro. We're. going to go score. >> Got it. >> Let's go. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Offense offense. coordinator. Yeah. >> If we get the ball back start the. second, let's go score and let's score. again. >> There's a lot of biscuits out there to. get that might be a part of this entire. thing. All right, let's go with the next.

one, shall we? >> Yeah. Speaking of Tom Brady, Bruce, Tom. Brady says Aaron Rogers is the best ball. thrower of all time. Is that BS or no. BSBA? >> That's a little BS cuz Aaron can spin. it, but I nobody can spin it better than. Dan Maro. I'm a little more biased. toward Johnny. I'm a little older. I. thought he was the greatest passer of. all time. >> Okay, so Johnny Unitas because of how. old you were whenever you saw it. Like. for instance, there's a nostalgia thing. with Michael Jordan. Michael Jordan. changed basketball so much. But when we.

were watching the last dance, people. that didn't watch the NBA back then were. like, "Okay, obviously basketball was in. a much different spot before Michael. Jordan and then after Michael Jordan was. Johnny United a trailblazer with how he. threw the ball like Ray Guy was with. punting for instance.". >> Oh yeah. >> Ray Guy Ray Guy started turning those. things over and it was like who who what. is this guy now? Everybody does that. But is that the same thing you're. thinking for Johnny Unidas or was it. just like elite ball throwing ability? He was just a great passer of the. football. And there's one thing is. throwing the football and passing the.

football. It's different. >> Passers don't necessarily have great. velocity. They have great accuracy. Joe. Montana didn't have great velocity. Just. super accurate on time. Knew when where. he was going all the time. Uh but for. me, I have to say Danny Marino. >> Pittsburgh guy. I'm okay with you saying. that. Yeah. Pittsburgh Italian guy. getting after it. His quick release was. obviously what everybody chats about, but what what else was it? >> Every He had velocity. He had accuracy. You know, when I first started coaching, Don Stro I backed up Don Stro in college.

and he's down there with the Dolphins. and I go down to practice and I was. like, "Holy [ __ ] this guy's better than. I thought he was.". >> Oh, >> cuz Don has spent Don led the nation in. passing in college and we played seven. games in the rain at Virginia Tech and. so like. >> this guy's battling mother nature and he. was doing great. Yeah. And then it's. like, what? I thought Don was great and. I see Danny, I say like, "Oh, it's a. different level.". >> Okay, so Aaron Rogers is in the. conversation. >> Oh, he's in the conversation because I. think Aaron can throw it any different. way he wants to throw and he's got that. little flick that that's just so.

special. Um Jordan Love kind of copied. it and Jordan's getting pretty dag on. good, too. But. >> what do you think about Aaron with the. Pittsburgh Steelers? Obviously, you know. the Pittsburgh Steelers very well. >> Yeah, I I uh it's an upgrade. It's an. upgrade for me. I I just, you know, they better protect him. They better. protect him. They didn't protect. Russell. They better protect him. >> You worried about that offensive line. It sounds like. >> he's young. >> Let's go to uh one half of the hammer. Don Cowboys over in hammer. Don. Don. Ladies and gentlemen, AP Tone. AP Tone.

How you doing, buddy? Good to see you. >> How you guys doing? Doing good. >> Hey, he said Aaron Rogers needs to be. protected. It doesn't matter who's. playing quarter. That's basically what. you just said right there, BA. >> Exactly. >> Yeah, it's an upgrade certainly, but if. we can't protect him, who cares is what. BA just said. >> Coach is not wrong. that is that is the. number one concern going into the season. with with the whole team. Uh but last. year's number one over or number one. pick for the Steelers, Troy Fatanu, who. was hurt most of last year but looked. great. He's back at right tackle. Brick. Jones is back at left tackle where he. belongs. Frasier's at center and then.

you know they got two guards. McCormick. was a rookie last year. So they're. they're all they're very young. They're. all one year older. They're all they're. talented. Um, but you know, I the thing. with Aaron is too like he's at least how. I feel that he's going to get them in. the right looks. Like he's going to like. he is going to check into the right play. always and forever. So, I feel like just. Aaron being back there. No disrespect to. Russ and it's not like Russ wasn't a. veteran quarterback, but I just trust. Aaron to always make the right decision. and he Aaron knows that. So, I I feel. like Aaron's Aaron and Arty Smith are.

going to have a plan for that. >> Hey, do you agree with what he just said. there? Do you think getting in the right. position helps? Will RD Smith understand. that maybe the offensive line isn't. having a great Can you play call out of. a bad offensive line? >> Um, we've had a bunch of injuries in the. past. We knew who we had to protect. You. know, go back to Andrew's rookie year. >> Oh yeah. >> You know who get who got hurt? McGlin. and and AQ got to go and block Sue. >> Let's give him a little help.

>> But I tell you what, Q blocked his ass. the whole game. >> Yes, he certainly did. And then he got a. job for the next 10 years because of it. Uh, and that's certainly a reason why AQ. absolute dog. Had to do it. Had the. opportunity. Had to get those short. little arms 29 in. Had to get those. things out there before just getting. eaten alive. I appreciate the fact. though that right now Steelers fans feel. as if they can win a Super Bowl. And I. think that's a good thing to have before. the season, right Tone? >> Yes, absolutely. 100%. >> Okay. Now, I don't know if everybody. else feels that way, especially with how. stacked the AFC is, but making that move.

and all the other moves that they made, they pay Decaf 30 million or DK Mechaf. 30 million a year. He's never been a. Steeler before. They bring in Jaylen, they pay him. John Smith, they bring him. in. Darius Slay, they bring him in. Feels like the Steelers are going all. in. Very abnormal for how the Steelers. have always been run, but Mike Tomlin. and Omar Khan making these massive. plays. They obviously want to go win a. damn thing. They want to bring seven. into that building. I I think Omar's. doing a great job and and and yeah, they're all in. There's no doubt about. it. They they put a lot of cash out. there. Some older players, some veteran.

players and uh proof is always in the. pudding. They got a tough ass division. I mean, they got to face bro twice. You. know, it's that ain't easy. >> Lamar Lamarice Lamar has not been. brought up by Joe Montana. I thought. Lamar was going to be I I for sure for. sure like as Joe was I was like. definitely going to be picking Lamar. here. Josh Allen. Okay. Joey Burroughs. probably because they get a lot of. similarities. a lot of conversation about those two. being similar. And then Justin Herbert. coming out of nowhere, it was like, "Hey, >> that was the one that surprised me. That. was the one that surprised me." And he. can he should be there.

>> big. >> Oh, he's got it all. He's got it all. >> What happens just. It's all the pieces around you, brother. I mean, quarterbacks get the blame and. they get all the credit. >> Brady played all those years. He had a. great defense and he had Bill put. players around him. You know, Payton, same thing. We started out really bad. and we start putting up players on. defense and build that whole thing. And. >> you're saying it's a team sport. >> That's the beauty of the game. >> Ah, we got about uh 10 seconds for this. last one. >> Yeah. A lot of people saying that any QB.

can play and play well in Kevin. Oonnell's offense for the Vikings. Uh is. that BS or no BS, BA? >> I would say it's BS because I probably. couldn't. >> All right, that's BS or no BSA. The last. one, the actual last one, and this is a. quick uh uh note. Go to the next one, please. Uh, can you not risk it and. still get the biscuit? >> Hell no. >> Okay. Yeah, you got to risk it. Got to. risk it to get the biscuit. Yeah. >> All right. We're back on the other side. with AJ Hawk, Peter Shreger, and more. BA. It's a glorious Tuesday. Unless.

you're a North Carolina Tario football. fan. Be a friend. Tell the friends. something nice about change of life. We'll see you in three. >> Obviously, last year this segment became. a little bit of a run. $1.7 million out. the door for good causes and great. college kids. Have you ever kicked. before? >> Yes. >> What do you mean you've kicked? Hold on. I was told you have never kicked before. I feel like I've been bamboozled a. little bit here. You have kicked before? >> My brother's a kicker, so every once in. a while I go kick with him for fun.

>> Okay. >> Okay. We'll make it $250,000. for you, Logan. to start this season. Anything to say. here to Logan as he tries to win. $250,000. >> after that hand gesture. Breathe and. close your eyes. >> Okay. He doesn't want you to win. I do. So do these people. Oh, >> let's go. >> Logan Kirk Herbstring will be holding. for you. >> Look, by the way, this is this is.

>> tough terrain. >> Tough. >> This is real Ohio here. Glenn, if you. want to come over this way, we'll put a. little extra pressure on him. You got. Pete running around. You got the mascots. staring you down. They don't want you to. win. Glenn doesn't want you to win. Peter is taking a dump in the middle of. the field goal kicking contest. Snip it. in. That's Peter's manure. Now through. manure great things grow. Will Peter's. poop grow you? $250,000.

You only have one kick. I don't care how. loud they chant for a re kick. You only. have one kick, Logan. Good luck, sir. 33. yards. Kicking is easy, everybody says. Let's find out. >> Ready, >> Glenn? What are your thoughts? >> I'm trying to give you. >> What are your thoughts? >> This is I think I think that poop was a. bad omen. >> Yeah. I mean, Pete just pooped right in. your face. >> I can't believe we don't have turf. >> Well, we're in Ohio. This is a football.

state. You got to be tough. Logan from. Ohio. Sophomore in business finance. Does he win $250,000? [Applause]. [Music]. [Applause]. >> Watch the poop. Watch the poop. That's what I'm talking about. Jeez.

>> Hogan. Hogan. >> Congratulations. >> I'll tell you what. $250,000. week one of the college football season. Thank you for showing up. I'm proud of. you. How do you feel, buddy? >> I feel amazing right now. That That was. amazing. >> I don't want to be the bearer of bad. news. You definitely stepped in Peter's. poop during your celebration, but who. cares? Buy yourself some new shoes from. Glen Palmer.

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>> Hello beautiful people and welcome back. to our humble abode. The thunder on this. BA day September 2nd 2025 hour two of. the program begins now. Football. is awesome. Set hut. We're all going. there. >> Yeah. All right. >> Set hut. Set hut. We're going on that. You know, that's a football is what. we're saying, ladies and gentlemen. A. man who coached that sport for 47 years, three-time Super Bowl champion, and is. wearing the one that he won as a head. coach for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. And.

it is big and it is blingy. Ladies and. gentlemen, Kangle hatw wearer, Bruce. >> Hey, that ring is outrageous. It's. awesome. >> It is beautiful. >> Yeah, it's beautiful. >> I got to thank Darcy Cassich Glazer. She's she designed it and she's the best. one of the best owners I've ever worked. for. >> Okay, so the Glazer family owns the. Tampa Bay Buccaneers. They also own. Manchester United if I'm uh remembering. correctly. You guys went all in there, right? It felt like you guys went all. in. Bring in Gronk in, bring AB in, >> Fornette.

>> Lauren Fornette comes in. You guys. really were going for it. Obviously, Mike Evans has been paid every single. year that he comes up and I assume. that's just going to happen forever. He's going to get to Larry Fitzgerald. type situation down there in Tampa, which he has certainly earned. But that. Glazer family and Jason Light, the uh. GM, seemed like you guys were all in. lock step throughout the entire process. Is that an accurate depiction? >> Totally accurate. I mean, Jason doesn't. get the credit he deserves, man. One of. the greatest general managers, I think, in the game. We worked together out in. Arizona. And that's really why I took. the job. You know, I was I was out of. it. U my son said, "Hey, you got to look.

into this." And I really Jameus Winston. I had in my football camp when he was. 10th grade. And I thought I thought we. could fix it, you know, and uh so I took. the job and and it it was awesome to. work for the Glazier family and Jason. Light. How about how that all went? Going down there to work with Jamus, which obviously still playing, >> threw a lot of touchdowns, still doing. his thing. >> 5,000 yards, 36 touchdowns. >> It was the last two games he threw a. couple picks that we had to look behind. door number two. Now, did I ever think.

behind door number two be Tom Brady? >> No. Uh, but Philip Rivers, Tom Brady, or. somebody else that year was coming out. >> Drew Breeze. >> was a referee. >> Stafford. Stafford was available around. I guess that was. >> I think it was Drew Brees. Yeah, there. might have been Drew. >> If I recall, Drew was going to be. >> I think I knew Drew wasn't coming out, but where did he come out? I mean, I. thought Philip might be our guy. And. next thing you know, Tommy's all in. >> Yeah, I heard there was a nice meeting. down there in Tampa. I heard there were.

some real powerful players all involved. there. Maybe we're going to build up the. city a little bit. We might make Tom. Brady time down here, TB, Tampa Bay. I. mean, there was a lot of synergy. seemingly with Tampa and Tom, but nobody. thought that's where he was going to end. up at. Yeah, >> Darlington came out of nowhere and. because it was Tennessee with Vrabel and. then it was another place then the first. time was on ESPN Darlington came out of. nowhere and they were still using like. the uh smart boards and he wrote down on. the on the thing Tampa Bay Buccaneers.

are a team that you should look out for. for Brady time he recruited us as hard. as we recruited him because we had. everything he was looking for. He had a. home in Florida. He was on the East. Coast. He want to see Jack. He could get. up and back to New York easily. no taxes. and uh and some wide receiver some. pretty damn good receiver and a pretty. good offensive line. >> Yeah, exactly. And defense was fast and. everybody's ready to go and it ends up. working out. What a beautiful city too. Tampa Bay. Beautiful city. >> Great place. >> Hot. >> Well, like you said too, that like the. cranes and everything like that was no. [ __ ] We were going down there every.

week and as soon as they got Tom, boom, cranes everywhere. It's like, okay, this. is on right now. >> And the Bolts won a couple Stanley Cups. You guys obviously hosted the Super Bowl. and won the Super Bowl. First ever team. to do that, right? >> Yep. >> Now, so everything in Tampa was up and. then you guys had the boat parade which. was legendary. Will be forever. >> Unbelievable. I've been Pittsburgh has. some great Super Bowl parades. That boat. parade actually got scary when I saw the. aerial view. There's like 5,000 boats. out there. People on paddle boards, >> right? With no with no harness. There's.

sharks in there, man. Toxic Tables here at Boston Conor at Tai. Schmidt. Nine-year NFL vet. Darius J. Butler is here. One half of the hammer. Cowboys is in hammer t ap tone. Tone. last night. Jesus. >> What happened in North Carolina? It was. all there. Did was everybody hammering. North Carolina? Um, no. Everybody felt. TCU was going to win. Okay. I I I think. uh. >> everyone handled the under though.

>> Everybody thought it was going to go. under and TCU said, "We'll go get that.". How did the betters do after last night. and what is your takeaway from the. evening and what should we look at for. Charlotte maybe for North Carolina this. weekend? >> Yeah, to be honest I uh I could be wrong. but like when the lines opened up in. June or July or whatever it was, I. believe UNCC was a slight favorite and. then it closed as TCU minus 3 and a half. or whatever. So there was a ton of. action on TCU. A lot of the offseason. stuff going on in North Carolina didn't. help that line. Tell you what, it was it. was electric last night. The whole place. was was buzzing that we and you said in.

the first hour, we will never ever ever. forget that first drive. We we were on. the sideline. We were telling Stanford, Steve, you know what? This might be the. best team in the ACC. The ACC might be. the best conference in in the country is. what we were saying. And can you imagine. hosting a playoff game here? And then um. and then they played football for. another four quarters and uh it was a. disaster. Uh but you know what, Josh. Hoover looked really really good. TCU is. a good football team. Um, I do think.

UNCC is probably going to take it out on. Charlotte uh this week and I believe. they got their asses beat by App State. in week one. So, >> App State's good. >> App State UNCC. I don't know. >> I I think I think Bill bounces. Yes. App. State has uh you know gotten UNCC's. number in the past, but I I think I. think Bill bounces back uh in week two. >> Yeah. All right. I love that. >> He has to. He doesn't have a choice. >> against Charlotte. I mean, this is. >> And by the way, Brad's Brad's boy came. in at the end and was slinging it. Max. Johnson's I mean he's I think he's 25. He's been around a long long time. >> This is his third school I do believe.

He he's big bad Brad's dad and or kid. and he takes shots like that and. delivers a dime on third and long. So. coming back from a snap leg where he has. one of the most gnarly scars down his. right side of his leg. TCU really had. their way though last night. They they. really did. But that first drive, Tony, to go back to your point, >> is the ACC the strongest conference in. football? Florida State, Miami, Clemson. Now North. Carolina's going to be. >> We were asking is Clemson the fifth best.

team in this conference. Now. >> this is a real convers that was first. drive. >> with Gabriel their quarterback. Kind of. looked like Dylan Gabriel during that. first drive. >> He did kind of look like Dylan Gabriel. You're right. >> Except I saw I saw Gio put all of his. weight into a sturdy 40 yard dart. With. the conversation around the Big 10. though, as you're saying this, when it. comes to like the Big 10 having all the. money, like you would think the ACC. falls more into that category than like. the SEC, right? Do you think there's a. lot of money in the ACC? >> I think there's a lot of money in North.

Carolina. There's a lot of money at. Duke. Not. >> for football. >> They're hoopers, right? Isn't that kind. of their thing? >> Yeah. So, only UNC is the team now. that's allotting, you know, 20 plus. >> Yeah. So, I allegedly. >> to that point, I guess the athletic. directors are going to have to make. those decisions going forward. Uh, I met. the athletic director last night. >> Bubba, >> I guess I said some mean stuff about. Bubba Cunningham. >> Did you? >> Yeah. So, >> he deserved it though. >> at the time. I certainly think he. deserved it. >> So, I didn't remember this in the time. He walks into the production room where. we're at. He walks in and uh.

>> he's talking to somebody over here and. I'm sitting right here and he goes, "Oh, Public Enemy number one's me." He points. at me. I'm sitting down. He's over here. He walks over and I stand up and I go, "Hello." And he goes, "I'm Bubba. Cunningham, the athletic director here.". I go, "What's up, Bubba? Sweet name. I'm. Pat. Nice to meet you." And I sit back. down and then he walks away and he like. we have a quick interaction and he walks. away. He stands there and I'm like, "Public enemy number one. Why'd he say. that? That had to be for a reason. That. was an awkward interaction, too. That. was not like a positive interaction.

What was that all about?" And I go, "Oh. yeah, you [ __ ] us.". >> Yeah. Yeah. >> I point at him and I say that. And he. goes, "Oh yeah." I said, "West Virginia. basketball, you screwed us. I do. remember that. That was you." I said, "Uh, why'd you do that to us?" And he. said, "It was not okay. We're not. getting into this." He said, "Uh, if you. learn the details of how that all went. down, I'm not your enemy, but I. understand that I'm a head guy or. whatever." I was like, "Oh, yeah. I said. some bad stuff about you." Okay. You did. screw us though, don't you think? You. kind of, if I remember, there was all.

these things that we accomplished that. in the history of the entire thing, if. other teams had it, they all made the. tournament. And then West Virginia. didn't make the tourn. >> First team ever. >> He was like, "Uh, no, but there's a. voting process. There's a lot of this. year was different or whatever. It was. like, okay, I apologize for what I said. about you, I get, but I I do remember. going pretty hard at old bubble. >> Well, it was that and then North. Carolina got in when a lot of people. said they shouldn't have and obviously. he's the AD at North Carolina. So, it. was, you know, kind of maybe you were. right to do that at the time. >> Yeah, it was loud. It boy, that's one of.

those things like a radio row when we go. to the Super Bowl. >> Sure. >> And we don't know or we forget that we. offended somebody and then that person. walks up, it's like, "Hey, good to see. you. Pat Gray year or whatever. It's. like they don't think that at all. >> I can sense that. I can sense from. >> completely forgot. >> Yeah. >> Recognize the name and then I'm like, "Oh, yeah. Pat, you kind of roasted his. ass pretty good.". >> Yeah. Well, West Virginia got screwed. His school went in. His name's Bubba. Cottonham. He's going to be all right. >> He's been around a long time, too. He He.

gave me a nice little resume check, too, about how long he's been in college. sport. I mean, there was a lot there was. a lot that happened there. I want to let. Bubba know I appreciate your moxy, Bubba. I do. And I hope I hope you have. that first drive. >> He'll remember it forever. >> I hope they get that first drive again. A lot of work to get back to that. >> Yeah, >> but that's what it was. I hope Lombardi. was sitting in there going, >> "This is it. >> This is what we're talking about. >> What do we imagine? We've got to do. >> Andy Dalton's on the sideline. Randy. Moss is there. >> Aaron Boone. >> Mia Ham. >> Aaron Boon. >> Aaron Boon was there. >> It's baseball. >> Yeah, he was.

>> The Yankees. >> Yeah. I don't know what the [ __ ] Aaron. Boon was doing there. Okay, listen. The. Yankees have the most important 12game. stretch of the season starting today. Okay. And he's there with a sweatshirt. tied around his waist looking like an. [ __ ] I So now I know where his. priorities are at. >> His son is on the staff at UNC. >> I don't care. We're trying to win a. pennant. Okay, I get it. That's awesome. >> He's not a lot of support, son. You hear. what you hear with us? >> Hey, man. Family is everything. Family's. first. >> Family first. >> Family's first. >> Did you hear that? >> Your team's your family.

>> I was going to say, yeah. You know, you. think Judgy's not like, you don't think. he doesn't love Judgy like he loves his. own boy? I'm sure he does. >> He drove down to he invited Judgy with. him. Judgy didn't want to go. He must. stay with the B. >> Really? I didn't know that. >> Good. I'm glad Judgy didn't want to go. >> Judgy is a Jordan athlete. I assume he. did get the invite and probably could uh. be in the middle of the field if you. would like to. Your reaction to him. being there last night was epic. And it. was uh I think it was sent in 100% to r. you up. I think. >> without a doubt. Multiple people sent it.

to me and it did. It capped my ass right. when I saw it. But I I get it. What. >> he might be motivated by that first. drive. >> He he might be. You're right. Maybe he. maybe he left after the first drive. >> There was a lot of people thinking about. doing that from what I've been told. >> I mean people that I was around. >> Let's bottle this up. Save this forever. >> Lombardi better have been out there. going. >> We made it in three months. We created. everything we needed and then it's just. gone. >> Maybe he left after the first drive. though. They need to get the music in. during that timeout. Joining us now,

ladies and gentlemen, is a man who uh is. a college football national champion, a. Super Bowl champion, a Ryder Cup winner. and a man who's currently in his attic. in uh Ohio. Ladies and gentlemen, AJ. Hawk. >> Hawker, how you doing, buddy? They had. it for a drive, buddy. They had it. >> They did. They had me fooled. I thought. they might be able to uh continue like. what they did the first drive. But going. back to this Aaron Boon situation, it. sounds like the big reason Tai's pissed. cuz he had a sweatshirt tied around his. waist. Is that why you were the most. mad? That's part of it. I didn't love. that. >> I can understand that. >> Yeah. Look in public. He's representing.

the Yankees there. >> What if you would have put it over his. shoulders, tied over his shoulders, you. know, like the frat boy. >> I'm good with that. >> I'm good with that. >> Remember, you weren't allowed to have a. beard for so long cuz you're. representing the Yankees. Yeah. Go. around there with And uh Randy Moss was. there. It was great to see Randy. He's. with a guy named Big E right there who's. the Jack Steamford Steve. Oh, yeah. Named Eric. He uh I guess him and Randy. uh together a lot. Big E, big fan of the. program. >> Nice. Big E promoting program to Randy. Moss. >> Nice. >> Yeah. Jack Stanford Steve. Okay. Not.

Randy the other guy. The other guy here. in photo. He is an ally of ours for. Randy and uh it was cool to get to meet. Randy Moss last night and chat with. Randy. That was my first time. >> Man, great seeing him back after camp. >> Dude, that was the first time was he was. that first time he was on TV since it. all? >> Uh Super Bowl. >> He did the Super Bowl. >> Yeah. >> And you did a sit down with one of the. major. >> but that is that that's not till. Thursday. the sit the Good Morning. Yeah. America one. Yeah. So that. premieres on Thursday. So he's just that. was the first time I've seen him since.

everything. >> since like Yeah. While I was sitting up. there, I'm like, is this. >> this is huge here that the world is. seeing a. >> Yeah. >> Beloved at and I let him know that too. I was like, hey, listen. I don't know. how often I'm going to get this. opportunity. I want to let you know we. are all [ __ ] very happy that you are. uh good. You are great for society. And. him and Dion were my two favorite. players growing up. You know, like I. just love the Moxy. There was these. tales about him during the recruiting. process in full jeans just beating. everybody at college practice and then. getting his uh scholarship rejected from. him because they didn't want to bring.

him like everything about Randy that. I've learned is legendary and then what. he was able to do in the NFL and if you. have something named after you that is. just happening on a regular basis now. you getting mossed like you've obviously. contributed to the game but I don't. think anybody can tell the story of. football without saying Randy Moss's. name and he's just a kid from West. Virginia you know who uh won over and. took over everything loves fishing. loves ball and uh it was nice to be able. to say that to him, you know, I I don't. think I don't think we do that enough. Getting a chance to do that to Lee Corso. was cool this other day. Wanted Randy to.

know that as well and I wonder where his. perspective is. We didn't get a chance. to dive into all that. But God, it was. good to see him. And that once again, North Carolina got Randy Mos. >> on the sideline, you know, like it was. all there. AJ, it felt like a magical. time. >> They'll be there next week, right? They're going to be there next week. >> I don't know if everybody's booked the. second week. Charlotte Saturdays. It's. quick turn around. >> NFL NFL is here, too. So, it's tough. >> Yeah, cuz Debbut was requested to be. there uh maybe throughout the season. Maybe lend an ear uh in hand. He thought. they were going to win.

>> Me? I. >> Debbut's going to consult for them. >> Debbie, you bet on him. >> Yeah, Debb's actually doing some free. consultation. >> I I don't bet, but uh I had my I had my. questions. You You were in a spot where. you had to pick him. Uh Teddy probably. had to pick him, too, with his. relationship with Bill. >> Bill had Yeah, Nick had to pick him. >> Yeah, Nick. Nick. So, I dance like, "Hey, Dance, you were the only one that. can keep it real, huh? You knew what it. was going to be." But hey, long season, lot of ball left. But back to Randy. though. >> Uh, got a chance to be his teammate my.

first two years in the league. Un. Obviously, everybody knows is Randy. Moss, but unbelievable teammate even to. like a rookie on the defensive side of. the ball. You know, at that time, you. know, a bunch of guys were playing video. games and stuff. So, just being in. there, I'm calling my brothers, hey man, I'm playing Call of Duty, Randy Moss, man. We got, you know, check it out. Blah, blah, blah. So, just a great. teammate, Tom Brady. I saw him doing an. interview. I'm not sure who he was with, but him talking about celebrating with. the offensive line and how he views. quarterbacks, how that's something he. watches, does the quarterback celebrate. with his teammates. Ben catching up with. Teddy Brussi, like those OGs, like Ben.

great great teammates. Randy was. obviously one of the pillars in that. locker room. So, just it was great to. see him back uh great to see him in good. spirits. It'd be great to see him. obviously back on TV throughout this. football season, but just an amazing, you know, icon that we all looked up to. Yeah, he's back on Sunday NFL countdown, which is great news. Teddy Bruski being. there though, I I mean, now that. >> from an expatriot like you were, >> it's like looking back, it was it was an. ISO reunion last night. Uh, you know, let alone the coaches and everything. And Lombard, I mean, once again, they. had it all.

>> Yeah. >> We got hands. >> Hey, they got a lot of good TV time. Lombardi and and uh Bill on the like. talking pregame when they were leading. up and all the show you guys were doing, they got a bunch of good air time, too. >> Yeah, Lombardi had a couple really cool. shots. Stoic shots looking out over the. practice. >> staring into the distance. Yeah, it was. good. Like It looked like it was perfect. night. >> Did you ever think about getting back. into college coaching? No. Absolutely. >> No. >> I can't stand rookies. You got own. freshman. >> And you got to pay them. >> No. >> And you got to recruit them. >> And recruit them again. >> 13. Yeah. >> Every year.

>> Exactly. >> I mean, I do a lot of work with Virginia. Tech and it just drives me crazy. I. mean, I've recruited you once. Now you. want to raise. That's why college. football will not be right until we get. contracts and a salary cap. >> Everybody that is an OG in the football. world has said the same exact thing. It. sounds like there's a chance if you. listen to Coach Sabin and Coach Rod who. both been around college coaching a long. time. There's a chance. It sounds like. there's going to be a 60 team.

>> private. >> power league. Doesn't it feel like that, AJ? I didn't think that was going to be. possible. Uh Chip Kelly I think pitched. it a couple years ago whenever he was. with UCLA on this show. He's like you. just get all the power fours. You make. them into one league. You do just like. the NFL. You do regional divisions. You. do the entire thing. Then everybody's. playing against each other. Then you. have an actual playoff system. You have. free agency. You have TV rights deals. Chip Kelly laid this entire thing out. And I was like, "Okay, yeah, we all. want, you know, fairy tale land. That's.

not possible." Then you hear Coach Sabin. bring it up. Then you hear Coach Rod. bring it up. It's like, wait a minute. Are they really is everybody trying to. get on the same page here? All the TV. contracts would have to end at the same. time. >> Yeah. >> Or if there was a delay for one or two. conferences of years, they would have to. sit with no contract or just pick up a. one-year deal, which would be much. smaller than that would be very hard to. get done. But it feels like that is. where they are trying to potentially get. to, which I'd like to say would be sick. You'd see like what we saw this past.

weekend every weekend. I'm sure there'd. be a lot of people pissed off though. If. you're changing conferences in divisions. and yada yada yada, it's like there's. certainly going to be people pissed. But. I think to his point, then you could. have actual guard rails. There'd be an. actual league with actual rules, with. actual free agency, with actual. everything. But how long does that take. to get to? I I don't even know how you. would do that, AJ. Honestly, especially. like a school like Ohio State with how. much money you're making off of. everything that's happened to Dave. >> Yeah, it's all depends on when the TV. deals like when do those run out and how. do you how do you work that.

logistically? Seems crazy. But what. happens to the other teams if you're not. one of the six? Where are you teams? >> Sorry, dude. Not everyone makes the NFL. >> So that's. >> Are they considered like division two? Then how does that work? What do they. do? >> So then that would just be like whenever. the NCAA sold its right to crown a. champion in D1 football to the BCS and. then the NCAA actually ran D1A or. whatever. Like you would go to the NCAA. uh office or headquarters here. We were. forced to go my rookie year and listen. to them talk. >> That went terrible. No, >> they had no idea that somebody was going.

to ask a question back. Like certainly I. watched you rob Pat White and Steve. Slayton, you [ __ ] Okay, I. watched it. >> I watched Pat White and Steve Slayton. build this entire university up and you. guys basically combating him and you. made up the word amateurism and now you. use that as an excuse. What if I just. made up a word and just started using. that as my excuse for everything? They. were not ready for that. Okay, they were. not ready for that moment. So, it was. not I would say it was a pretty bitter. interaction between me and the NCAA. But. we did the tour. It was nice. It was. cool. They had a nice museum here. Everything like that. You know, I had a.

toothpick in my mouth after eating this. one time. Guy comes in. >> Really positive body language, I'm sure, too. The whole time. >> Oh, yeah. The third, fourth guy comes. in. I mean, the first three were all the. same interaction between me and them. I. don't understand why you come after. somebody for a cheeseburger. I don't I. don't Well, I can't get a cheeseburger. Guy wants to buy me a beer after me. Gamewinning kick. I can't. It's a $150. You guys are going to come after for. what what's the purpose of that? So they. obviously they all have their answers. about how we're paying for everything. and everybody needs to be uh treated. fairly and if you're getting a beer, is.

everybody else getting a beer? Is. gymnastics getting a beer? I'm like they. they should I mean if they were there I. I would certainly be advocating for them. to get a beer, you know, just full. interactions. Then we have lunch on the. other side with toothpick, you know, cuz. I got some [ __ ] One of the highest. senior guys comes in. I guess he'd been. told that I was probably not the easiest. guy to speak to. So he comes in and. tries to do like a whole sit up straight. type thing. This is a job interview. I'm. like, I'm never working here. This is not a job interview. I was. forced to come here for rookie things. So, do your thing. And he was like, take.

toothpick out of mouth. You want to be. taken serious. You I don't. >> I don't I I completely I'm here to kick. balls, brother. This is a whole rookie. thing. But the tour, the museum was. nice. Really nice. Their national. champion wasn't the D1 national. champion. It was the D1A national champ. That was who the NCAA champion would be. So, I think what the NCAA would do would. probably take the the whatever. >> the South Dakota State, Montana, >> 60, the South 70, >> get their own TV deals for all of those. teams as well. >> The big ones would operate and then they.

would have to get some sort of entry, you would think, into the CFP just like. March Madness basketball has, you would. think. >> And in theory, that feels like that. maybe works. >> Yeah. Or you could even. >> But how do you get everybody to agree to. that? You got ads, presidents, coaches, conferences, how many lawyers, how many. different people from everything that. would have to agree to that. That'd be. crazy. That'd be quite a big big task. >> Luckily, they do have a bunch of runway. if that's the way it's going to be. because like you said, these TV deals. extend into like 2035, the 2030s. You.

know, they just signed a bunch of. 10-year TV deals for billions and. billions of dollars. So like this isn't. coming within the next two to three. years unless you know they would tear up. those contracts which you don't. >> TV networks wouldn't want to do. Exactly. >> You would have to renegotiate all those. TV deals. Fox has a great deal. >> Awesome. >> ESPN has a great deal. >> CBS. >> CBS got and these have all been very. >> tough negotiations I think to get all. these things. So they would have to redo. all of those. >> Good luck to them. Happy we're not doing. it. >> Why don't you do that Bruce?

>> It's not a bad idea. >> VA. Why don't you pick up sign up for. that job? fixing college football. >> No thanks, brother. >> No thanks. >> I'd rather golf. >> Yeah, I'd rather golf. Yeah, that's. right. In the morning, >> have a cocktail. >> Yeah, maybe a white monster. >> Do it again. >> What's the flavor? I don't know. It's. the [ __ ] white one. >> It's white. >> I like the white one. Uh, joining us. now, ladies and gentlemen, is a man who. might have all the answers for. everything, and we appreciate that. He's. an insider. He's an analyst. He's a. host. He's a vibe. Ladies and gentlemen, Emmy award-winning Peter Shreger.

[Applause]. Tra, we're breaking down college ball. there a little bit about what. potentially could happen in the future. Who knows what's real? Who knows what. anything looks like? We do know college. football is back in a big way. And the. NFL is back in just two days. What. should we be thinking about that maybe. we're not thinking about? And where are. you right now? You look awesome. >> I feel awesome. Got a great tan. Just. just getting back into it. So, I'm going. to be recording a podcast. I'm doing my. own podcast with ESPN in Omaha. It's. going to be called the Shraer Hour and. we got a studio and everything and we're.

set up. So, I'm speaking with Shawn. Payton a little bit later today and. we're going to get some coaches. Hopefully, BA will join me. I don't want. to take any guests, but I love Bruce. Arens. I love seeing him in the studio. You look great, BA. >> He'd be great going to Shreger Hour, happy hour, hour. All the hours. >> Uh, but yeah, we're two days out here. You got a great tan. You look good. The. Shreger hour is around the corner. Football season here is kicking off for. the NFL. What are you looking at as. we're two days out? What are some. thoughts that you think we should be. thinking about as well? You know, every.

year there's a team that comes from. nowhere. And two years ago, it was the. Houston Texans who had the second. overall pick and they skyrocketed to a. playoff birth and a playoff victory and. they end up in the divisional round. Last year, it was the Washington. Commanders who came from the second. overall pick to do it. I'm seeing. everyone's predictions right now. And I. say predictions because it's like it's. not bold to pick the same six teams that. do it in each conference or same seven. teams every year. I'm looking for. someone who's going to take a big old. swing and someone who is going to say, you know what, the Browns are going to.

the playoffs this year or the Giants are. going to the playoffs this year. And who. is that team? Because you look at these. odds right now, everyone plays it safe. and they think they're going out on a. limb taking the same 14 teams. But Pat, I want to know what's the team that's. coming from nowhere this year. I have I. have a read on a squad that no one is. believing in. There is one man there in. your truck or the back room who is a fan. of that I'm seeing plus 900 odds in the. AFC East and as everyone has fled the.

Miami Dolphins fled acting as if this. team has the plague. >> I might be doubling down on the Miami. Dolphins on the fact that Mike McDaniel. finally has his guys. They're going to. be playing at 120 miles per hour those. first few months of the season. And. there is absolutely nobody, >> nobody on the Dolphins bandwagon right. now. >> They got the Colts week one. >> You triple down, Shregs. Triple down on. that one. There he is. >> Boys are ready. >> I'll tell you what, Shregs. You see. Gumpy talking positive about the. Dolphins right there. That's only in the.

microphones. Uh that is only talked last. week. I know. >> Yeah, that is only in the microphones. I. think everybody's kind of skeptical and. worried with all the moves that take. place. But I guess we have to remember. the offense whenever they can protect. unstoppable. You know, they are. unstoppable whenever they are moving and. operating efficiently. The defense. aside, Vic Fangio leaves and goes and. wins a Super Bowl. You know, everybody. said he couldn't coach the defense. anymore. He leaves and literally wins. the Super Bowl at his next stop, his. next destination. So, that's kind of.

tough to think about. Jaylen Ramsay. gone. He's out of the building. Let. alone Kus Campbell, who is the OG. He's. gone. >> John Smith, he was a Pro Bowler. He's. gone. So, Tyreek Hill gone. >> Tyreek Hill. Uh, first year not being. named captain. Sure. It's going great. Sounds like behind closed doors. Motivated. >> Yeah, of course. Motivated. Chip on his. shoulder. Wants to earn that C back. So, I guess you could take everything as. either adversity or just an opportunity. >> I'm looking for the team, Pat. You know. it. There's always a team. So, who's the. team no one's on? You look at it like.

there's going to be one. Every year. there's one. Is it Jacksonville? Is it. Carolina? Everyone could have their I I. think Miami might be the team this year. that no one's on that does a little. something. They they have the players. and they have a coach that knows it's. now or never and he's going to run his. offense. Let's see how it goes. >> Andy Dalton on a sideline last night. Year 15 for the Carolina Panthers. Was. there obviously Bryce Young benched last. year for Andy Dalton. Then Bryce Young. put back into the starting lineup. Andy.

Dalton has to take a back seat yet. again. He understands what the role is. Bryce Young and the Carolina Panthers. get hot at the end of the year. They get. hot at the end of the year. Do they have. a wide receiver that can get open? We'll. see. Will they be able to continue to. go? We'll see. But maybe it is the. Carolina Panthers who aren't complete. >> sh. this year. Dolphins. It's going to be. tough. Even the Cowboys there, >> guys. 32 teams, every fan base right. now, I walk down the street in New York. City, you could find fan, they all think. this is the year. This is why the NFL is.

the best sport. It's parody. Everyone. thinks this is the year because they've. seen it. If Houston was CJ Stra except. I'm believing I'm looking for that team. I'm searching for that team. I'm. searching for him. Um the truth is I. think the biggest story is the fallout. of this Parson's deal and I haven't been. on with you since it happened. >> I got crushed online last week. Crushed. >> Oh no. >> In all my years I have never never been. considered a Cowboys guy. I've never.

been considered a Jerry Jones. Oh, I. don't know. Sick of fan. It's just not I. don't even I don't talk to Jerry. I. don't know like Brian Shottenheimimer. Well, I came out though and I explained. the Cowboys thinking on this and their. thinking on this is we don't want to pay. three players the top of their position. salaries. This guy has not been what we. consider valuable at $47 million. And it. got down the road to such a point where. Jerry wasn't going to pay him. He was.

lying on the table there on the. sidelines. He demanded a trade. These. are all things that made him different. than Ezekiel Elliott and CD Lamb and Dak. Prescott. And it got to a point where. they made the deal. And you could have. two things be true. They they screwed. this up by not paying him last year. where it could have been 35 or $36. million, but they rolled the dice. And. you could also have it be true that you. know what, Jerry made the trade because. Jerry wanted to make the trade. And. whereas 30 other teams besides the. Packers, who I could get to as well,

have general managers that cannot make. this trade. You could take the best. general manager in football, Brett Vch, he's not making that trade unless he. looks behind him and says, "Mr. Hunt, are we cool with this?" Jerry doesn't do. that. Jerry doesn't have to do that. You. could find whatever GM. Howie Roseman. isn't making a trade where he's trading. the top player on his team and looking. back without saying to Mr. Lori, "Are we. sure we're good with this?" Jerry Jones. is the king of the kingdom. He can make. the trade and he doesn't have to look. back at anybody. He made the trade cuz. he wanted to make the trade. He's 82. years old. He wanted to make the trade.

He's not answering to anybody. So, I got. crushed because they're like, "Uh, you. just want to, you know, be Jerry's p. Jerry's 82 years old and has been with. every media guy in the world as far as. in a relation." Ed Warer and Jerry go. back 40. I'm not getting in at 82 to be. Jerry's guy. I promise you that. I was. just saying. >> Yeah. I think we don't have a shot with. him either. We We put a lot of requests. in. Jerry has ghosted us on all of them. Now, it is nice that we're at the part. of his life where he's lost his. fastball. Yeah. >> You know, and we have microphones. Great. You know, so it is uh nice to be. able to remind people though that Jerry.

is a dog and watch that documentary and. we can't be judging every move that he. makes today off of who he is as a. complete businessman and owner of a. team. You're talking about an absolute. beast of an owner. There's a reason he. has the stubborn mentality that he has. If you've been successful at everything. and somebody else is going to tell you. that you're wrong, there's going to be a. natural. Is that right? >> Oh, okay. >> Not so fast. >> At 82, especially 82 years of that. >> 82 years old and he's selfade.

>> I got the most valuable franchise in all. of sports. [ __ ] been running. sports a long time. They've never done. it like old Jerry Jones. So, you're. telling me I'm wrong? What the hell have. you done? You sell some papers as a kid? What did you do? Like that is his. You. can see how he thinks that way. Like you. can see how he. >> he had a handshake. He had a handshake. with someone. >> That's how he looks at it. >> Yeah. I guess I mean. >> whether they're right or wrong. >> I know. I know. I know. I understand. I. understand completely. But Micah. >> 24y old kid like. >> 25. Yeah. Micah is saying he was uh. nodding his head along because of the.

pos. That's what Mulligetta said this. morning is was Micah nodding his head to. the owner of the Dallas Cowboys and his. boss while he's talking to him about. things. Yes. Did he necessarily think. that that was a hey we are negotiating a. deal right now? No. Well Jerry Jerry. should have at least had somebody in. room to say I was there. >> Yeah. >> This was very clear cuz Jerry said I was. already off my mark. >> Multiple occasions. >> I said hey I want to pay you 30 million. Is that good for you? And Mike didn't. really say anything. I said, "Okay, 40.

40 million. Is that good?" And Michael. said, "No." It didn't say anything. And. I said, "40 million." And Mike was like, "No, in his head." And I was like, "All. right, so it's 40 and a half. Do you. want this to be a three-year deal?" Mike. is like, "Could be a good fiveyear deal. It'll be a fiveyear deal." Okay, that's. exactly what it'll be. So, I was at 30. I moved 40 and a half. >> Mike is a good negotiator. >> I offered up a three. >> Sounds like Micah did a nice job. >> Came back with a five. No, he didn't. Cuz 40 and that was what the deal was, right? >> He He's a good But he ain't he ain't. David. Mullet gets he got what? 47.

>> Yeah. 4 47. And And here's the cool. thing about the Packers story and AJ you. could appreciate this. You know Mark. Murphy for 20 years was the man in Green. Bay as the president. And you know they. don't have an owner there. So he was the. highest guy on the ORC chart. He had to. resign based on their bylaws of the. franchise. You get 20 years. In comes Ed. Policy who is in his first year as. president. And if you want to make a. splash and say, "Hey, things aren't. going to just be the way that they've. been. I'm here to kind of set business. and we're going to do it in my mold.

Now, Goody and Laflur, as was reported. on your show last week, they're still. waiting on new deals, but Ed Policy's. coming out and saying, you know what, my. first major move as new president of the. Green Bay Packers, how about I get maybe. the best young defensive player in all. of football. And we do so by giving up. two first round picks and a player who. many in the league feel might be on the. back nine of his career. >> Well, Kenny Clark is a leader for that. Green Bay Packers defense. I know a lot. of people in Green Bay were not. necessarily thrilled about losing him, but whenever you think about what they. gave up to get Micah in return, I think.

everybody's jacked. Good luck to all. parties. And you're talking about Carmen. Policy's boy up there, Ed Policy. He's. not scared to make a big time move. that's in his family jeans. Go ahead, AJ. >> Yeah, Shregs, a team I think people I. mean, they do have the best odds to win. the NFC West, but the San Francisco. 49ers, I don't know if you saw Brock. Party has an awesome commercial out. He's uh lying, dancing, doing all kind. of great stuff. It's it's really good. But Jawan Jennings reported back in. practice, I heard from reports on the. internet. How is that going to go? And. uh how do you think these Niners teams. going to fair this year?

>> Third and I I have not seen the selling. He's selling boots. I think he's selling. Ariot boots. >> It says O lineman with him, too, I. think. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> I'm waiting for the B-roll. I'm waiting. for the B-roll. Here we go. >> All right. Spinning a ball. Okay. All. right. Little personality. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Look at that. >> All right. >> Oh, nice. >> I need Kurt Warner in that thing. Remember Kurt Warner? American Underdog. story. >> He met his wife line dancing actually.

out there in Iowa. >> He better Sunday. >> Oh, little slide there from Oh, wait. Wait. >> Birdie. >> What's this for? >> What's this? Watch this. Smile. >> How do you do? He said. >> Ari. What's Ari. Cowboy uh boot and western wear company? >> Oh, I can get that. I can get that denim. vest right there. >> I get everything party's wearing right. there. >> Morning carries a lot of. >> Can I get that rhythm that Brock Party's. got though? Did you see him one too in. there, Bruce?

>> Hell of a line dancer. I'll tell you. >> he was good. >> I bet a bunch of girls were jumping in. behind that. >> Yeah, I think follow follow suit. Normally it's the guy in all black. For. every um square dancing, line dancing. place that I've been to, there is a. fella that's going to be an all black. He's going to have a black cowboy hat. He will be in the front of the group. He. knows every dance and he is going to. sweat and he's going to lead the way for. the next three four hours. He's not. drunk. You are. And uh you need to keep. up with the man in black. From my. understanding, that's from saloons in.

Blackburg. >> up there in the hills of Virginia Tech. all the way to Los Angeles rodeo places. You need the guy in the black will kind. of show the way. He's hitting that. electric slide 10 different ways though. I I mean they are they're dupdy-dooing. in there. It's a good time. Copperhead. Road comes on. Copperhead Road comes on. Get your hell out. Get the hell out of. the way. There are people from the hills. running to that dance floor for. Copperhead Road. And uh Brock knows. that. >> He knows. >> Ariot knows that. >> Mhm. >> Are they going to win because of that?

>> You better play well week one. >> Here's what the deal is with San. Francisco. >> People need to not hold this against. him. >> I'm saving that video for Sunday just in. case. >> There it is. >> If at 4:30. >> when he runs one in, you're saying he's. he learned that that touchdown dance. from our friends at Ariot. >> Yeah. Well, Maybe. I mean, everyone in. the NFC West is going to run one in this. weekend, it sounds like. But if they do, you know, play pretty, you know, poorly. I'm I'm assuming. Not just me. >> Not just much. >> Why though? This is This is a team that. that that. >> that reloaded.

Peter. Okay. Reason. >> Yeah. Brock doesn't deserve it. Brock. >> Brock's getting a little cowboy money. >> Brock doesn't care. Exactly. >> And he's got John Deer and. >> Yeah. He's got that big. >> They reloaded. They reloaded in a way. that was really interesting to me in. that they doubled down on a lot of. veterans this off seasonason. So use. check they cut originally then they were. like you know what let's bring him back. KD had a big uh you know contract. situation. They paid him good money. They then of course you know paid per.

and then it's one guy after another. They're like we're not Fred Warner like. we're not looking at last year as the. trend. We're looking at last year as a. complete outlier and we still believe. that we could compete in the NFC West. question of course is yes Jawan Jennings. third in Jawan who was so good two years. ago. >> is is is it he and is it he and Ricky. Pieraw are they enough to really compete. with a Rams offense an Eagles offense a. Lions offense you're looking at a.

running back's room that yes Christian. McAffrey is there but is it Isaac. Garendo and Brian Robinson are they. going to be enough to maybe give. McAffrey the spells that he needs. considering McAffry's loss to injury as. many times he has has been in the last. few years. So, I again, no one's going. to draw up an offense like Kyle. Shanahan. You get back Salah. You of. course have three of the first four. draft picks be defensive linemen. On. paper, it's all there. Now, these guys. just have to do it, but I think they've. been hearing a lot that they can't. And. I think that's a veteran squad that. thinks, "Wait guys, we were in the Super.

Bowl 24 months ago. What are you talking. about?". >> Our forgotten great team, the San. Francisco 49ers, and it all started 4. days before the season whenever we. learned of Christian McCaffry's fate. uh. and how Achilles tendonitis was on one. side, then it jumped to the other side. It was like, oh no. And the whole season. went that way. Now they get an. opportunity to get it back without. anybody really talking about him other. than us because uh it's hard not to. think about Fred running all over that. defense and Bosa just stretching. I mean. I mean they they got a team. We got to.

never forget that. The NFC West though. pretty packed out there. And you. mentioned one of those teams, the Rams. Go ahead, Debb. >> Yeah, staying in the NFC West. Sounds. like you love the Rams just based on how. you were talking about that stacked uh. San Francisco roster, but um what what. how you feel about Stafford and I know. he was named week one starter, so it. sounds like he's good. How are things. going out there in Rams camp? Definitely. outperformed expectations by a lot last. season. What's your thoughts and. expectations on him this year? >> Hopefully. >> they're fired up. Look, they hope that. he's in there obviously and the real.

one. >> Here's here's the truth. week one. Week. one, Stafford will be out there and. we'll go from there. Uh the truth is all. summer and I know you guys are rolling. your eyes at home and you're rolling. your eyes there in Indie. Jimmy G was. slicing and dicing up the Cowboys. defense when they enjoy practices played. well. >> How about Stson? >> Yeah, looked good. But Jimmy G, they. were very, very happy about the way. Jimmy G looked against the Cowboys in. those joint practices in that he and. Devonte, as much as he thought they.

might have issues because of the. documentary and what Dvonte said, like. they were good and Stafford is going to. be great and if he gets to injured, they. don't feel like the season is done if. his back acts up. So the thing you need. to take away and I know. >> there's a million teams that are going. to be coming for them. They believe that. Puka Nakua and Dvonte Adams is a huge. upgrade from Puka Nakua and Cooper Cup. So you had a good offense last year. Devonte comes in and already they are. speaking as if Dvonte Adams looks like.

the Devonte Adams that AJ Hawk saw in. Green Bay and that the Devonte Adams. that we saw tearing up the league for a. good decade uh over the course of the. mid 201s all the way up into the last. few years where he kind of was jumping. around team to team a bit. But now. you've got a guy in Stafford who has. Tutu, he has Nua and he has this one and. they have a running game and a guy that. they just paid in Karen Williams. So. defense is going to be key, >> but they got two rookies last year that. they thought played at Pro Bowl and.

those guys are going to be leaders this. season. So I am extremely high on the. Rams and I think a lot of people should. be higher than what they are. >> Sean McVey immediately upon Dvonte Adams. arrival showing the entire team a bunch. of Dvonte highlights is a sick way. Hey, welcome to the team. We're happy to have. you. Obviously he'll gas everybody up. OBJ's first game with the Rams if you do. recall after getting kind of an ugly. exit from Cleveland. OBJ was targeted. like five times in the first five plays. Shawn McVey Monday night game. Yeah. >> Yeah. Shawn McVey wants his guys to play. well. He's a great ball coach over.

there. He really is. So young. Could. have taken what 30 mil to go call some. games. Instead sticks around, tries to. do the rebuild with Matthew Stafford. And uh hopefully they're all healthy and. I'm excited to see what they do. Now. let's stick with the NFC West. Coach Ba. has a question for you. Sh. >> Yeah, Shregs. You think anybody in NFC. West wins over nine? >> Yeah, I do. I do. I think I I I think. the Rams can go 1112. I do. I feel like. you know I remember I mean guys you have. to understand I was sideline reporter. for Fox for many years and I did a many.

Jeff Fischer Bruce Arens games and let. me tell you that Rams Cardinals rivalry. was no joke. BA are you giggling back. there? Because those those meetings were. heated and those were good but like now. we have the Cardinals back a bit and now. we have the Rams sitting on the top and. the Niners are biting and the Seahawks. are there. So, I understand if we're. looking at we think everyone's going to. go seven wins, eight wins, nine wins, and then the best team wins. I think the. Rams are superior to those teams. I. think the Rams are going to go 11 or 12. wins. >> Okay. Well, that would be over for the. Rams, obviously. Do you see under on the.

Niners at 10 and a half? >> No, I think I think they're going to be. a 10 11 win team as well. I don't know. if I'm there yet on Seahawks and. Cardinals. >> How many guys how many teams out of the. NFC West making the playoffs? Two, >> I would think. Two. Yeah. >> Okay. Is that the strongest? Is there. going to be a three team division? >> I think the NFC North has an argument. and you could pick your permutation of. those of those four teams. I saw a lot. of people high on the Bears. I would be. interested in that because of Ben. Johnson, but I don't think they're in. that same conversation just yet with.

those other three teams. And I think the. Packers got a lot better with Micah. Parsons. I know it's a big shiny object. A lot of people say, "Okay, but let's. see how it actually works." I think. Micah Parsons is an unblockable object. off the edge, and I think they've got a. pretty good defense otherwise. So, I. think the Packers, Vikings, and the. Lions could all be playoff teams this. year. >> Three teams from the NFC North in the. playoffs, maybe. You know, last year, two NFC North teams were battling in the. last week for the number one overall. seed in the NFC. Winner gets number one, loser gets number five.

>> They need to redo the playoff seating is. what everybody said for the offseason. when they said teams are just too damn. good. Speaking of a good team, let's go. to the AFC Mile High. Go ahead, Ty. >> Yeah. Last week, every guest we had on. and we asked them that kind of question. It was basically like, "Hey, watch out. for the Broncos. They might win the. Super Bowl this year." And it almost got. to the point where it felt like picking. the Broncos might have been jumping the. shark a little bit. Uh, as we stand. right now with the season kicking off. this weekend. Do you still think that. the Broncos are are one of those teams. who are going to potentially, you know,

be a Super Bowl team at the end of the. year? >> I'm torn because I do believe that, but. you are right. the amount of heat that. they're getting that never ends well. Like there's always that team that just. scratches the surface in year one and. then everyone jumps on their bandwagon. and it doesn't go as smoothly in year. two. And I say year one because of Boon. Knicks, but like gosh, from every, you. know, guest we spoke to last week on. McAfee to Diana Rousini sitting with. Shawn Payeyton to K. Adams sitting with. Shawn Peyton, it feels like everyone.

came out of Denver being like, "Yep, that's the team. That's the team.". because their defense was number one in. the league and they got better on. offense and now you're expecting Boon. Knicks to take an even bigger leap in. year two. So where's it? Where's the. where's the where's the hole? Where's. the I don't know. And yet I'm cautious. of just riding the bandwagon that. everyone else is. Like honestly I look. at this and I'm like, okay, if every. single person is picking the Broncos. over the Chiefs, well then the Chiefs. have to win the division. That's just. how it's going to go. I think it's. probably an even split if you ask around. the league and you ask the media right.

now whether it's Broncos or Chiefs. And. I think that's crazy crazy considering. what Kansas City has done. And also. considering what Kansas City did last. year. >> and that they lost one regular season. game and I know it was on a blocked. field goal that they almost lost to the. Broncos uh earlier in the season, but. guess what? They blocked the field goal. and Leo Chanel got up there and blocked. it. I can't take the Broncos over the. Chiefs just yet. >> I do like Bo Knicks and Shawn Peyton. >> Yeah, it's great. >> Shawn Peyton draft night talking about. Bo Knicks. This is the one. Yeah, >> this is the guy and them going through.

some growing pains early in the season. with how great they looked at the end. and that defense can stop anybody. >> Defense is stacked, but I I you know, second year now a lot of defense is. >> but the Bills lit him up in the. playoffs. We forget this. >> Yeah, defensive player of the year. is we got Zack Allen. They got up. >> The AFC is packed. Yeah, they had 80. million dead cap or 50 million, whatever. it was last year last year, 30 this. year. >> Yeah. Whatever it is, they had the. biggest dead cap in the history. So. they're playing with literally. >> they still behind their back there.

>> I am interested though. Second year. Second year for Bo Knicks. Uh you know. he is obviously older. You know he's. what 25 26 now probably going to his. second year. But obviously we know Shawn. Payeyton is a great What makes Shawn. Peyton a great play call to be. You guys. spent a bunch of time in the league at. the same time. >> Yeah. Known Shawn a long long time. He. just got a great mind. He's got a great. feel for the game. And you know trick. plays are one thing. Uh he's got the. perfect timing for when he's going to. get you, you know, and his quarterbacks. always play smart. They never play.

scared. All right. And they don't beat. they don't beat themselves. Uh that's. the way he's always been. And uh he's. just a hell of a football coach and you. know, really happy for Vance to be back. there doing such a great job that. defense. Uh I like the Broncos, too. I I. think the Broncos are are the ones that. challenge uh the Chiefs because Chargers. already got injuries galore and and. people don't talk about injuries just. wipe you out and and. >> hey, we're great. No, we just lost our. left tackle. We lost our right tackle. We got. >> Oh, no excuses. I don't hear it.

>> Yeah. There are no such things as. excuses, but. >> you're Let me ask you, can I can I jump. in? >> Yeah. Go ahead, Tras. >> This This Payton is not wellliked uh by. by teams during the season. He does some. antics like did he ever do anything that. got under your skin as far as a coach. goes? Did he ever do anything that in. the media or even on the field something. that kind of set you uh off track? >> Uh a little bit. Yeah, the playoff game, you know, the playoff game. Sean never. came out before the game and he was out. shaking hands with everybody running.

around and I said, "Whoa, he's awful. confident about this one." Now, they did. kick our ass earlier in New Orleans. Uh. but he I was like, "That's not Sean.". And uh I said, "We I think we're going. to get their ass this time. What are you talking about, Shanks? What. are you talking about, though? Antics. >> always like, and that's why Sean has an. edge in it. And the guy that that I. don't know if you knew Orie, but Mike. Ornstein, who used to. >> be one of the NFL and just passed away. last year, but Orney would be kind of. Sean's conciglier and they would come. out there and they would have a towel.

that you'd be rocking or something or. he'd say something in the media or he'd. be the one who would be throwing money. around in the locker room and he would. be dancing in your stadium. And I I. think a lot of coaches and it goes back. to that Nathaniel Hackett deal that he. did when he got to Denver. It was. basically like they weren't coached well. and Russ is going to have a shot cuz. he's with me. Shawn knows what he's. doing. He's playing all the angles and. he gets that from Bill Parcels and it. was always, hey, let's just have a. little bit of edge here and I got my. guys' backs and I know some of the other. coaches around the league, they respect. the hell of them, but it's like gosh, I. would love to beat Shawn Peyton as well.

>> Well, Shawn Peyton loves it. He has the. second wealthiest owner. >> Yeah. >> In all the sports, right? >> Yep. >> The Walton family. Yep. Bulmer's got to. be one. >> No, I think Bulmer. >> Bmer I think is. >> Oh, yeah. Bulmer. He's living by the. way. >> The more stuff I watch about him. >> Weapon. >> God, he's been around. >> He's got all the money. >> He's been sweating and bringing it for. quite. >> a long time. >> Long time. Same with the Walton, though. >> Yeah. Amen. >> How about the coaching salaries over. there? Can pay whatever they want. >> Oh, man. It's crazy what they're. getting.

>> Almost thought about going back just for. that. >> Yeah. Something to think about. especially if the Walton are going to be. once Elon gets a team those coaches are. going to make. >> Yeah. Bezos or Zuck Zuck gets a team. Y. >> I mean how much is he paying AI guys? Just signing bonuses. >> $250 million. >> Million, right? That's that's been. called into question as of late. >> Oh, has it actually? Not true. Oh, Elon. gets in there. Zuck gets in there. Bezos. gets in there, which we assume is going. to happen with NFL teams with the way. the valuation's headed. There's only. going to be certain people that can buy.

it. >> Yeah. you know, those people were all. >> the coaches just having no salary cap. there. We thought that was a weapon for. the Walton. I think it still is. They're. gonna be able to probably keep those. coordinators. Now, Kansas City has three. Hall of Famers that coordinator that. have been around. >> You know, Spags, obviously, Andy Reid, and then. >> Dave Tob, >> Tobin, Tobin, uh, Tob, sorry, Dave Tob. Uh, he as a special teams guy, Hall of. Famer as well. Them being able to keep. those guys is a huge deal. And Vich. might it might end up being a Hall of. Fame GM when it's all said and done.

>> Yeah. Because whenever you start getting. a coach's puck, that's tough. I assume. that it's very difficult. So if you're. able to offer just a little bit more. money at coordinator position, especially if you're building something. great, you'll be able to go. I think I'm. not speaking for you guys. I don't want. to speak out. >> NFL is one thing, but I'm shocked with. the college coaches. They got. coordinators making $3 million in. college now. >> Bruce like I can trust. >> I was one I was one of I was one of the. first $140,000 guys in the SEC way back. So, >> hey, wait, thank you for doing what you. did for these coaches today. Thank you. for doing what they stand.

>> All right, last question here. We know. you got to go before two. Go ahead, K. Man, you had a tweet about the Trey. Hendrickson deal from the Bengals. They. get all three of their guys done, Trey, Jamar, Antique Higgins this off. seasonason. Did you see this coming with. Trey Hendrickson? And do you see him. going back after this year? >> It It wasn't pretty, right? Like, you. don't you don't want it to go that way. And it's never going to be as easy as it. is for the fans in in their heads when. you start to but if you look at it just. as a 30,000 foot view. They got Jamar.

Chase resigned, Auntie Higgins resigned, something that most Bengals fans thought. was not going to happen. And then they. got Trey Henderson for another year. At. the very least, you could say, "Okay, let's kick the can here and see if we. can get a long-term deal done." I. thought it was a great offseason for. Cincinnati. It got ugly. The Shamar. Stewart thing is ugly. This is ugly. But. they're starting the season fully. loaded. They played their guys in the. preseason, so there's no excuse to start. the year when they play Cleveland that. they're going to be rusty. And Joe. Burrow, for the first time, is 100%. healthy going into the the 2025 season.

So I I look at Cincinnati's like they. made for a lot of great segments on. ESPN, made for a lot of great talk. radio, but at the end of the day, they're as fully loaded as they've been, and it seems like those guys are at. least satisfied for now to go in and. attack the season. So I feel pretty good. about the Bengals right now. We get a. chance to talk about it again next year. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. I'm excited for that. The Trey. Hendrickson situation. >> We need content in June, dude. We're. good. >> Yes, we certainly do. >> The Shreger Hour. Obviously, you know. that. Good morning football. Yeah.

Pacers obviously a big deal. But yes, need to continue to have conversations. But if Trey Hendrickson and them win a. Super Bowl, it'll all be worth it. Yeah. >> And the Bengals could. Why not with Joe. Burrow? Top three quarterback in the. league in Joe Montana's eyes. Somebody. said he was the best quarterback in the. league. Who was that? >> Joe Burrow. Oh, on the show someone just. came. >> A lot of people, >> man. Yeah, that was very recent. It was. Will. >> Orski maybe. >> Will Compton Will Compton said, uh, when. healthy, Joe Burrow is the best. quarterback in the league. >> Joe Montana said he's top three. quarterback in the league. It's like,

all right, we just didn't see him in the. playoffs. So, that's probably why he's. left out of a lot of the chatter. I'm. excited to see if the Bengals can do it. We appreciate you, Shregs. Good luck. with your hour. >> Appreciate it. Uh, I'm doing this. prediction special Thursday on ESPN. after you guys at 300 p.m. Eastern and. it's going to be all the predictions for. the season right before kickoff. So, I'm. excited and I got to say, uh, Pat, thank. you for everything. You're the man. And. Bruce Arens, what a legend. Thanks, guys. >> No, you're the legend, dude. >> You're the man, bro. Ladies and. gentlemen, Peter Sher.

>> Thursday prediction special. Peter's. predictions. >> Love that. >> Pumped. >> Oh, PD predictions. >> That's going to be a good hour. >> What's PD predict? PD predictions for. everything. What do you think he's. guessing? He sounds like he likes the. >> records. No, I mean his record. He gets. a Super Bowl right every year. So, he's. getting a special for. >> Yeah. And he and he also he had the. Commanders last year as the team um that. would make the playoffs kind of start. from nothing. He does have some jokes. >> Shrekes quietly just knows all this. [ __ ]. >> Like draft, >> day of draft, he knows all the [ __ ].

Week before draft, he doesn't know. >> Day of draft, Shregs knows everything. I. do wonder if that's how he ended up on. our draft show because they might have. had some like production meetings. beforehand to see if Shrags is going to. be good. What do you know? And he's. like, I nothing. Nobody really knows. anything. >> Okay. Sorry. Trey doesn't know [ __ ]. >> [ __ ] And then on draft day, it's like. knows everything on draft day. He was uh. awesome with us. I'm happy he's getting. more and more opportunities to kind of. host. I think he's a host. >> Yeah. >> Yeah, dude. That'd be That is hilarious. if that is what happened.

>> That's definitely what happened. >> A draft show. Yeah, >> as we know how it works. >> Yeah, >> that's definitely what happened. All. right. So, what are some of your what. are some of your thoughts on what's. gonna happen at this? I don't think. anybody really knows right now. >> I'll know on the draft. May maybe, I. think, but not right now. No one knows. >> What What So, what are we supposed to. slot you in there for? Just like maybe. no guy. I don't know. And then we we're. sorry. And then, but if you go back and. look at his resume, it's like, hey, Shrags get Shrags knows you just got to. give him time. Yeah. >> You got to give Shrags time to operate. those phones and for him to dive in. there day of. >> He's uh the insider game. How do you.

feel about that? It's huge part of your. guys' business, the insider game. It. >> It's Yeah, I think guys that really. know, >> they got they got connections. I love. the draft when it's like, >> "Oh, I think they're going to take this. guy right here.". >> Yeah, we uh we had to do a lot of that. We had to do a lot of that. Did you Did. you worry about stuff getting out of. your building? >> I never did. Uh Jason and the rest of. the guys did, you know, it's like, no. I. I mean, how we feel about players and I. would tell the truth and they thought I. was lying all the time. I was like, if.

you tell the truth that that can't be. real, you know, he's got to be. bullshitting you. And uh like, no, that's how I got him ranked. I really. do. That's it. >> Yeah. Well, I appreciate that you've. always done that. That's why I think we. like you and we think you're going to be. great for us. There's a lot of stories. that have come out from you just telling. the truth. You know, obviously Tom Brady. stuff at the end there. There's a big. conversation about big conspiracy about. big fodder about you come out address. that. Tom addresses that. Then obviously. the AB stuff which we are certainly. going to have to ask about at some. point. One of the greatest football. players of all time.

>> Antonio Brown. >> Like. >> hardest working practice player I've. ever coached. >> Really? >> Hardest working practice player ever. >> I heard. Yeah. Like season. >> reps everything. We're getting There's a. reason why he. >> takes it to the house every time. I said. you take it to house. I'll wait for you. to come back. >> He. >> Yeah. We're not stopping practice. Uh. we're going to let you go ahead and. finish and then you take We want. everybody to do what you're doing. That's an interesting thing for what. Antonio Brown is remembered for on the. football field versus everything kind of. outside of the football field,

especially his retirement. I mean, cannot. >> I mean, we everybody's still literally. in their head right now sees him. skipping off of Metife Stadium. >> going and right waiting for. >> Chich. and get to ride. That was like such a. You're right in the middle of all of. that. We'll definitely chat about that. cannot wait to get your thoughts on all. the quarterbacks as we go through the. season, what the team decisions are, situational [ __ ] Like, you're the. perfect guest for us this season. You. need to know that. We're very, very. thankful for you. >> No, I love it, man. I'm looking forward. to it, bro. >> Is it going to be new Kangles every.

>> Every week? Yeah. >> Oh, hell. >> How many of those you think you got? >> My wife keeps telling me, "Is that whole. closet hats?" I said, "Pretty much.". Said, "Can you throw some away?". >> I said, "People keep giving them to me, so no.". >> What's your favorite one? The next one? >> The next one? Yeah. Man, we'll make sure. we get good. >> I had. >> probably my maroon maroon for Virginia. Tech, but. >> you love Virginia Tech. >> I tough loss the other day. I thought. you guys were in that thing. >> Thought you guys had a team. >> I thought Shane did a great job making. us read punt. >> Yeah, re and then watching those three. offensive linemen go down and try to.

tackle that guy, I was like, that's not. good. >> Yeah, having the offensive lineman at PP. is certainly a move that colleges have. started doing. Three shield offensive. linemen to protect. They think they beat. the game. What happens though whenever. >> when the Gunners don't get that when. that thing's coming back? I don't know. Shame Beamer with a little Beamer ball. >> Beamer ball. >> Shout to Virginia Tech. Uh big loss over. South Carolina. South Carolina might be. for real though. >> Lenor Sers looks like a guy. >> Mhm. >> Oh, he's legit. >> Okay, that's a these are the thing. >> All right, we'll continue digitally. We.

can't thank you enough. We'll see you. tomorrow. Be a friend. Tell a friend. something nice. It might change their. life. Goodbye. Rated zero there. >> Boom. >> Really think nailed it. >> You see that BA connect on that zero? That was a That was a super professional. expert send off there for ESPN two. We. on ESPN and two. >> Yeah, >> US Open still happening. >> for a while now. They're not even in the. quarters yet. Still. >> close. >> Football's starting. What's going on? >> I think I've been watching that. I've. seen it pop up for the last like month. The US Open. >> Yeah, football's happening. What's going. on? Isn't that uh.

>> It's got to wrap up in the next couple. days, right? >> Yeah, it's the same with like the uh the. RDER Cup coming up. like this is they. overlap just one weekend where the. greatest sport plays and then all the. other sports are doing their thing. This. is kind of that time I feel like. >> I know. But don't we think we should. just give a runway there for a little. bit? Maybe utilize the anticipation of. these days right now to get these things. accomplished. Ryder Cup, we can't move. that up. >> I I completely agree. I just think they. >> out with the golf season. I think. >> they're not even thinking of it yet.

>> Why not? It's over. RDER Cup I'm Ryder. Cup I'm okay with because it's not every. single year but like the US Open like. they know like hey football season's. right around the corner. >> Imagine if Wednesday night they had. their super duper final for what I don't. even know what the super duper final. will be cuz there's tag teams. There's. uh superhero. tag team. >> Yeah, there it is. >> They do a lot of talking in between. every serve. They do. >> every serve their chitchat. Are you. saying if it was at a different time you.

would watch the US Open front to back if. it was not during football? >> Yes. >> I've been I've been paying attention. I've been if we move Wednesday night, you know, Wednesday night cuz we got. >> Thursday is when it starts. Friday, we. got Chiefs Chargers in Brazil. We got. Patrick Mahomes on Friday. We got the. Philadelphia Eagles and the Dallas. Cowboys on Thursday. We got another. packed slate of College Bowl on. Saturday. Then we got a full NFL Sunday. slate and then we got Monday night.

football. >> I'm sorry, tennis. Move your super duper. final to Wednesday night. Just lead us. into Thursday. It would be great. It'd. be great for all of us. But instead, now. sounds like I'm going to have to make. decisions on what I watch. >> When is the super duper final? >> I think it's next Sunday. >> It might be if they're not in the court. >> Turn off several days off in between. >> Yeah. Can't even turn off the super. duper late night games cuz they're. electrifying cuz the quarterbacks are so. good. >> That's unbelievable.

>> Saga politell. >> Yeah, I saw I saw their uh I saw JKS was. being used very uh frequently. So that. might be the go-to. >> JKS. I like. >> I think I think you keep saying it. though. So you got the name down. >> I like saying I like uh respecting the. names, you know. I cuz nobody ever. everybody always says it's a hard name. It's like, well, >> my name could be pronounced Macaffy, you. know, and it's like, hey, it's Mackey. So, I would like the song of Polle. family to let me know if I'm saying it. right or not. Okay. >> First of all, I would like a correction. if possible. But also, people should.

know this guy's name cuz this dude is a. Did Have you seen him ba? >> No, I haven't. >> Oh, >> superstar, >> freshman, 18 years old out of Hawaii. Lefty. Look how big he is. Look how. comfortable he is. And watch these. balls, dude. This is his first game. He. went six for six to start the game. >> Bucket Bruce. This guy spinning moves. too. >> 18 years old, man. I I uh. >> [ __ ] talking. >> Yeah, he teammates love him. I mean, everything he. >> I mean Yeah. >> So, where's he playing? >> Away already. Bingo. Alabama. >> Well, that you said he's being recruited.

away. He said, "Where's he playing next. year?" That can't be how this goes. >> Oh, yeah. >> That's it. That's college football. I. mean, he's going to What's the cash? >> Belich might have actually uh [ __ ] up. his game plan cuz he stayed up too late. on Saturday to watch to watch him play. Yeah, >> he So, him and Deon Dampier for Utah. They were electrifying. They're playing. at the same time. Games didn't end till. 2 a.m. I'm like, "Come on, man. We got. Once again, can we. >> Yeah. >> You know, I know you're on the West. Coast, okay, and I know your fan base is. over there and they're three hours. behind. It's like these dudes are going.

to keep us up all night, I think, on. Saturdays. I I legitimately think these. two dudes have a chance of wrecking an. entire sleep schedule." And I I thank. him for that. I certainly do thank him. for that. But, boy, they are. electrifying. this 18-year-old kid from. uh Utah. No, I'm sorry. From Macau. >> From Cal. Yeah. >> So much fun. He's He's got the moxy, too. He's got the [ __ ] Like, I don't. know if the team is going to be good. enough for him to really go on a run or. whatever. Hopefully, maybe they are, but. he's got like the [ __ ] in. It's fun to. watch that type of stuff. >> Well, and those two dudes is like what I.

love about college football cuz I don't. have a team. Like, you're just kind of. watching to rooer players and you just. find two random dudes who I've never. heard of. had no idea what team they. played for, whatever. And you know, you. just happen to have them on at 11 11:30. at night on a Saturday. And you know, two guys who you're probably going to. watch for the next few years now in. college football, you you stumble upon. But that is kind of what stinks is that. for Cal fans is that the immediate. thought is that, you know, where's he. going to play next year? Is he going to.

play for Bama or what? >> Can this guy transfer midseason is what. people are thinking. Can he leave and. start can he start for a different. school next weekend? Like is that that's. the thought immediately. Cal fans who. are awesome. I will never say a bad. thing about Cal fans and the Calgurithm. after going out there and experiencing. that place during finals week and they. were out there doing football instead of. actual Yeah. So I got mad respect for. the Cow fans, but it is an immediate.

thought like Well, >> yeah. What's crazy is they're in the. ACC. >> Yeah. I mean, so yeah, I'll be I'll be. I'll be up watching them, too, you know. So, yeah, I mean, for Cal and Stanford. to have been the ACC, that's that's how. [ __ ] up college football is. >> Yeah. >> But Jeff Hley, right, >> they call it the All Coast Conference. The All Coast. >> It's crazy. I mean, there should be. four major conferences. are in the sections of the country where. they belong and uh and play each other. and then then have championships. >> That's the top six that you're talking. about, and just break it into four.

quadrants. >> Still have the Southeastern Conference. >> Yep. still have the Big 10. It'll be the. Northeast or whatever. I guess the. Midwest would kind of be pissed off. about that. That becomes Big 12. >> Well, yeah, because if they do that, then Oregon's gone. USC is gone. Like. all the teams that they just added will. be out of there. And then Yeah, they'll. start eating from the Big 12. >> So they go Southeast, Northwest, Big 10. probably. I don't think Big 10, the SEC. are going to get. >> Pack 10. Yeah. >> And then what would you do? Southwest. What would that be called? >> I would think Arizona, Arizona State. Those guys go back to the Pack 12. Pack.

10. >> Pack 12. Oh, call it the Pack something. >> Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Yeah, >> because if they do pack 10, they could. just do what? Six divisions of 10 teams. instead of four. >> So now we have the conferences. Now we. have the divisions. >> We got the teams. We got the rules. >> Just do it. >> It's not that damn hard. We fixed it. already. >> Take that. >> That was quick. We figured that out. >> It was easy. >> Now there's just a couple billion. dollars in contracts. So we got to kind. of sort through. >> Our department already finished. That's. that's a different department. >> Yeah. We just kind of slide that across.

the desk and say, "Hey, get out of them. Good luck. Good luck. Get out of all. these contracts." In Florida State and. Clemson are going to say, "We're going. to get out a couple hundred million. dollar loan to try to get out of these.". Turns out it would cost us 700 million. bucks to get out of these contracts. >> Yep. >> So, everybody's going to need 700. million to get out of these contracts. Yeah. >> I don't know how we're going to do that. Good luck. >> I don't know. You figure it out. Figured. out. >> We got our end figured out. We have four. divisions. We They're all going to play. each other. I I don't know how it gets. fixed with the amount of questions and. the amount of people that you need to go. in the same direction. And with all that.

being said, the product on the field is. so awesome. Like North Carolina that. first drive. >> That's college football. >> Awesome. >> It was awesome. I agree. >> It was awesome. I met the the. commissioner of the ACC is Jim Phillips. Is that his name? >> Sounds correct. >> Something Phillips, I think. >> Sure. >> It was on a sideline. It's one of these. >> Yes, sir. >> Jim Phillips. Okay, sweet. It was a. little loud. I meet him. He said, "Commissioner of the ACC." During that. first drive, I thought to myself, we're. going to see a lot of commissioner Jim. Phillips this year. >> Mhm. >> Okay. We like during that first drive, I.

was thinking the ACC, Miami, Florida. State, North Carolina. Now, obviously, Dabo's going to do his thing. This. commissioner is about to have the. biggest year of his life. And I just met. him. I was like kind of happy for him. I'm like, good for this guy that this. whole thing is going to happen. And. then, >> yeah, >> it all changed. I'm like, maybe Jim. Phillips is not going to have as big of. a we thought he I was going to say the. ACC was the best conference in football. I was going to say that. I was going to. come on this show and say that after the. first drive. I was locked into I'm like. the ACC goes from the team that was or.

the conference I was going to be pissed. about how many teams they get into the. playoff and how everybody's kind of. disrespecting them as a power. Everybody. says SEC, Big 10. Nobody really talks. about the Big 12. Nobody talks about the. ACC. Big 12 certainly in third place. ACC and football was just kind of a. castaway. And then all of a sudden, one. off seasonason, bang, Miamiy's back, Florida State's back, and then [ __ ]. Bill Bellichic is going to lead North. Carol. I'm like, Jim Phillips, good for. you, dude. You're the new Sanki. You're. [ __ ] new Sanki. It's Sanki and Petiti.

now sitting at the table. And then what. happens the rest of the game? It's like, nope. All of a sudden, >> I think there's going to be a same power. structure amongst those commissioners. I. think that's how it's going to be. But. they all have to get on the same page. And then all the presidents of all the. schools, then all the athletic directors. and all the coaches all have to get on. the same page. When has that ever. happened? And the TV networks. >> Well, that that's the thing is no. Is. this the first thing that can't be TV. network and that like a streaming. service could in theory come in and pay, you know, 10 billion in buyouts and then.

this entire conference lives on Prime or. Apple like or X or X. >> There's no way they let that happen. There's no way they let that happen. How. >> in networks? >> Yeah, that'd be like the death of. network TV if that happened cuz that's. the only thing people are sticking. around for is this kind of [ __ ]. >> This kind of [ __ ] Watch the way you. speak about it. >> Well, I'm just saying live sports in. general. Like you start losing those. then. >> Live football is what matters. >> Have you seen Granowski at Iowa? >> No. >> They get slang.

>> Coach, >> don't watch first quarter, coach. >> They rush for 310 yards. You know, it. would have been malpractice to have them. out there throwing 50 times. You know, it's like, "Hey, Albany can't stop the. run." But, you know, guess what? Granowski, eight rushes, 46 yards, touchdown. >> Do you think you're going to have to. throw it at some point, though? >> No, I I I told I told Debbuck this. This. was really all I needed to see cuz he. was cramping up, too. It was a, you. know, an unseasonably hot day at. Kinnick. I think they were in the red. zone. It was like third and nine and he. uh hit an out for like 15 yards to move.

the sticks. I was like, that hasn't. happened once in the last eight years. So, that's good enough for me. >> And he lowers the shot. He. >> He does. He's a He's 63 230 2, you know, 235 like he he's physical. >> seed. >> That was a seed right there. >> Good placement on that ball. >> So, talk about I'm not I mean, this this. weekend is is kind of the whole like is. the measuring stick. We'll see. >> Iowa State's got a good team. >> They do. >> Iowa State's got a real good team. >> They do. >> Cyclones are coming for that ass. >> That's fine. First point touchdown. They. got a kicker who kicks 63 yarders.

>> Iowa's kicker is pretty good, too. >> 55 yard. >> Mhm. That's what's crazy. what the. kickers are doing now. >> Insane. >> I mean, 70 70 yards. >> He's making. >> Cam little I mean, come on, man. I mean, there better be no time left on the. clock if you miss cuz they're going to. turn around and kick the short one. >> Yeah, exactly. You're giving up three. immediately on those 70 yards. automatically. Yes, I agree that the. whole um I don't want to say aggression, but it feels like coaches have gotten a. lot more aggressive. Fourth down, going. for it more as more stats are being told.

like, "Hey, at this you should be able. to pick it up at this particular rate.". Feels like people are going for more. more long kicks are happening, I think. Do you agree with that? >> Totally. And and I'll ask our guys to. look this up. >> Okay. >> Of those teams that are doing it, how. many are offensive head coaches. >> versus defensive head coaches? >> Okay. What should. >> defensive head coach say? Oh, no. No, we. ain't doing that [ __ ]. >> We're punting. >> We're punting all the way, brother. >> But look at the commanders. They were. the ones who kind of like they they did. that a shitload last year. And and Dan.

Quinn's a defensive guy. Maybe Cliff. Kingsberry has a little more say in. that, but like they I mean, especially. in the playoffs, Commanders were going. forward on fourth and short every single. >> Who was guy from Chargers that came from. his mom and dad? >> Brandon Staley. >> Brandon Staley, defensive guy. He was. going forward a lot. He was super stats. >> Where's he at? >> Good question. All right. Something went. wrong with football. You don't kick. field goals anymore. >> All right. And I love Dan Campbell, don't get me wrong. I think he's a hell. of a coach. I think he's the next Bill. Cower, but they're in they're in the. Super Bowl. You kicked three damn field.

goals instead of going for it on fourth. down. You got a threecored lead. >> and you put your team in an oh [ __ ]. moment. You know what that is? >> What's that? >> Oh [ __ ] we're tied now. Oh [ __ ] Oh. [ __ ] I got to call a different play. Oh. [ __ ] We had a 20-point lead. Oh [ __ ]. Now Now it's a seven-point lead. You're. calling defensive. You're calling. different offenses because the head. coach went for it and didn't make it. >> Now they would say that if they didn't. live like that all season, they wouldn't. have been in a position to go for it. Right. I think that is low. >> Yeah. 1,000%. And also Josh Reynolds has.

to catch those balls on fourth down and. then we're in the Super Bowl as well. >> Well, yeah, that's Mark Andrew should. have caught some [ __ ] and then we'd be. talking about Lamar not being winner. >> Yeah, you're right. So, you're right. So, >> risk it. >> Don't ever get me started on analytics. >> No, let's start on analytics. Uh, they. don't believe in momentum. Analytics. don't believe in situational awareness. Analytics believe on the outcome. >> Don't they claim to, though? I thought. they claim to take in that stuff. >> No, they don't believe in momentum. >> Yeah, momentum is not real. >> Oh, okay. Yeah, I thought they claim. that they do take it all even like all. of it. >> No, they don't even know that your right.

guard can't block the Dominican Sue. >> Yeah. Where's the stats on and DomKin. Sue lined up over AQ? >> Why didn't you go for on fourth down? Cuz AQ couldn't block his ass. >> oneonone. AQ could have. >> but AQ would have nod and eat to up. But. uh it doesn't make any sense to me. I. baseball total sense. Can't hit a. curveball, put a curveball pitcher in. But this going for it inside the 50. every time it's fourth and five or less. Those points add up, man. >> Well, the analy. >> especially in the playoffs, >> the analytics on the screen, the.

analytics on the screen tell us to go. >> Go for it. Go for it. Go for it. Every. time I've never seen it say don't go. >> I don't think it ever has. >> Why don't you listen to it? >> Go. I hate it. Can't stand it. >> No, you don't know what you're talking. about, though. These analytics clearly. say 67% of the time you'd make it here. Are are they talking about blocking and. tackling or numbers? They're talking. about numbers over the history of the. game. All right. That's [ __ ]. >> It sounds like the numbers are a much. bigger risk biscuit.

>> Oh, yeah. >> Operation, >> dude. Yeah. I mean, I'm getting my ass. kicked. I got Why didn't I make it on. third one? >> Well, the on fourth one. >> Well, the analytics said that you should. have 82% of the time should have made it. on third one. >> Should have made it. Yeah. They got a. better player. Michael Parsons kicked. our ass. >> How do you think Green Bay does, Michael? You think he wins Super Bowl? >> I'm talking Super Bowl expectations. >> I think it gives him a better chance. >> I mean, it's going to excite that. defense is already good. And did Kenny.

even play that much last year? >> He He was hurt a little bit and he did, but he he had his statistically he had. his worst year by far in a long time. >> They're not going to miss him. They. added something big and lost a little. So, yeah, I think I think it They. already got a great fan base. Maybe the. best ever. I mean, the best place for me. to ever go to win was Lambo. >> Yeah. Cool feeling. >> And they had great brats for you after. the game. >> Yeah. Drive through that neighborhood, show up at the stadium. Yeah. It's. really cool. And you feel like you're in.

uh Sable's NFL films that you watch. growing up as a kid. It's like, holy. [ __ ] I'm in the movie right now. I'm. I'm in the history of football. AJ's the. all-time leading tackler for that. program. I I couldn't even imagine. >> Wasn't that Scotty Miller? Yeah, you. were there at the Scotty Miller half. cut. >> Yeah, baby. Yeah, man. That was. >> I I told him to punt. I was pissed off. because we missed it on third. I said, "Punt." And I said, "There been a. timeout." And like, "We've got I think. we had a 10-point lead, maybe.". >> He took seven. I said, "Best they're. going to get is a field goal. [ __ ] it. Go for it." And Tommy looked at me said,

"Go for it." And Byron called it a great. play. >> You risked it and you got the biscuit. >> And uh you know, obviously we got little. bunch formation. They thought we're. going to run a quick out. tried to get a. first down field goal and guy squats and. Scotty runs right by him. >> Dude, is he still on the Steelers? >> Yes, he is. He's on 53. >> Yep. >> He He's. >> He's turned into a hell of a little. gunner. >> Aaron loves him. >> He don't He don't weigh 160 lbs. He's a. hell of a little gunner. >> He was great for you guys. >> He was He was. >> scoot scoot. Scotty Miller came out of. nowhere.

>> Yeah. So fast. >> Yeah. >> So fast. By the looks of him, you don't. think he's as fast as he is. >> Yeah. King didn't think so. >> What's that? >> Why is that, Pat? Is it cuz you're like. shorter or what? Yeah. You just don't. think his stride length just by looking. at him, you don't think his stride. length could be fast enough, you know, >> sneaks over. He He can turn him over, boy. He can turn him over. >> He can He can dance, too. I heard. >> Pick him up. Put him down. >> Picks him up and puts them down. >> You mean like Ty Hill? Cuz he's like the. same height as Ty Hill. So, >> no. >> What do you guys What do you say? >> A little different.

>> Same number, too, right? >> Yeah. >> Yeah. That's his comp. I think that was. his comp, but nobody on TV would say. that. >> There's just something about him still. >> Yeah. A lot of Danny A and Dole in them. Yeah, >> certainly. >> with speed. >> He's Julian Adam with speed. >> with high speed. Yeah. >> Who's that guy coming out of um the Hat. that was coming out of a Texas school. ran like a 4-3 and they're like. >> George. >> was No, it was a Texas school. I don't. remember if it was actually Texas. It. was a uh maybe Texas Tech or something. Kid ran like a 4-3 or 42. I like this.

guy's a lot like Danny Amandola. No, he's not. You're talking about. strictly skin color, I do believe. Yes. Well, yeah, >> he is a white man. Yes, he is. He is. He's a lot different than Danny, though. Not that Danny didn't have speed. You. got to have speed. But. >> yeah, I think uh Scooty Miller had a. hell of a run. Maybe Pittsburgh Steelers. is the right place for maybe Aaron. Rogers needs a Scotty Miller. Do you. think so, Tone? >> Yeah, he's talked about it a bunch this. like he he doesn't have to guess where.

Scotty's going to be. Scotty's always in. the right place and obviously as a. veteran quarterback like Aaron, like he. really we know we know Aaron appreciates. that. >> All right. Um, let's take a break and. then we'll wrap up with everything we. didn't hit, including a little BA. breakdown of some defenses. >> Oh, hell yeah. >> Which I'm excited to see. Also, some. headlines. You know, there's a new voted. number one player in the NFL. Got to. talk about that. Uh, don't want to give. it away. Jumped over somebody backwards. last year. >> Okay. >> Ran for more yards in a season than any. human's ever run for yards. >> Sure.

>> His before contact numbers, if they were. their own season, would have been a top. five rusher in the NFL. So, the entire. offensive line's back and he's back. And. I'm talking about Saquon Barkley. >> He's number one player in the NFL. Where. did everybody else fall in? What are. BA's thoughts on it? And uh we're just. two days away from NFL kickoff. This is. a beautiful thing. Be a friend. Tell a. friend something nice might change their. life. Take.

>> We're still bringing it. Woo! >> I light every bridge I see here just to. watch it burn. If you seen all the hell. I seen it make your stomach turn, I. think you know why I do what I do when I. do. [Music]. started with 133 teams vying for one of.

these coveted 12 spots for this 12 team. playoff and it came down to two teams in. the great state of Indiana kicking this. entire thing off. I might drink a little. I might smoke a. lot. Caring. down. >> The best year of college football that. it's ever had is about to have the. greatest playoffs it's ever had. And it.

all starts right here in front of. Touchdown Jesus and his beautiful Irish. people. And I need you to say go Irish. booers. >> Don't do that all night. If you make. this kick, I will double his kick to. $500,000. I will also donate $250,000 to. a charity of Chris Dy's choosing. >> Yeah. Let it go. Oh god.

Not terrible. blank $750,000. The Lord is watching you. >> 1 million. [Applause]. >> And there's a bunch of. us. >> We don't just beat top 25 teams. We beat.

the [ __ ] out of you. Okay, Google. >> But one thing you didn't learn from me. is talking all the [ __ ] you talk, you know. >> Welcome to the most electrifying. atmosphere in all of sport. I know. European soccer fans are wild. That's. like 30 to 60,000. You're about to see. all weekend 100,000 plus bananas. atmosphere. And that is one part of the. reason why college ball is so damn. great. >> Is that a fun show? No. No serious.

serious football. Alabama Jones is very. serious. >> You know, he was trying to be funny, which I get it. And you know, my. daughter Kristen loves him, so that's. kind of soothed the soul a little bit. that somebody in our family likes the. guy. >> I choose to believe. And for a touchdown, Jesus, and. everybody looking down, IU gets a massive win over Notre Dame.

Shane, I'm sorry. >> You're a real scumbag. >> I thought Coach Signetti coming out here. was a real disgrace to the game. He left. his players in the locker room to go get. some camera time for himself. I know a. legend like yourself would never do. something like that. Would you? >> No. No. It's disgusting. I saw it. I. thought, "Wow, what a sad, disgusting. program." A million. Go Irish. >> Riley Leonard and the Irish from their. own two. Jeremiah Love breaks free. Carile trying to go 98. Touchdown.

[Music]. >> Might be fiction for a blowout here, fellas. >> Couldn't wait to get to the wonderful. state of O. [Applause]. But the SEC coming up to the Big 10 when. it's cold as hell. We shall settle the. conversation here in beautiful Columbus. Coach, that hairline. Do you get a.

haircut every day? >> Not every day. Not every day. Big beard, big boot, feet and toes. 500. Oh, this. guy sucks. Holy. Holy hell. This guy's. the worst we've ever seen. Just took out. the Ohio State cheerleaders. >> $1 million here. JD level. This guy sucks at kicking butt. We. appreciate the hell out of you. >> There he is. >> He was once wiped 100 times.

>> Yeah. 100 times. There are actually. people out there. Psychos obviously that. like the nonfrosted Pop-Tarts. Gary, one. of the best football players I've ever. been around. Nonfrosted strawberry. popart. >> I like non frosted Pop-Tarts. >> I like nonrosted Poptarts. Now, I at one point this year was the. mayor of Cocktown. You were the mayor. Mayor of Cocktown. Yeah. They voted me. in there. And this is my How did you. become the mayor of Cocktown? He's got. to go around and say, "Listen, I hard.

[ __ ] I hard CS." Sorry. Numerous. Whenever we found out that there was. going to be a college football playoff. game in Columbus, Ohio. We were all. jacked up to see this Ohio State. faithful be showcased to the entire. world about how much they love football. Then we walked out here to this game day. set this morning and it was Rock, you always. [Applause].

>> Well, in that song they say it's home. Home for me is the north and the cold is. going to be the hard. Give me the Ohio. State [ __ ] out representing. >> for the big 10. [Applause]. >> How cool was Sean Perkins, the Ohio. State football team for allowing us to. hang out in their facility pretty much. all day Saturday. They had five TV. setups, a bunch of recliners, Roosters.

supply some phenomenal food. DJ. Henderson in the open field. Henderson. is scoring. Another T for the Ohio. State. [ __ ] off. Story of the game thus.

far is Chad Kelly is going mad dummy, bro. All of Ohio is excited. They were. singing last. night. be broke my heart. First round second. third scramble on check now. would hate to be a Tennessee fan or a. chair near Morgan Wall cuz they have no. hope right now.

By and large, these games have. absolutely stunned Patre. >> A couple people up here with that smoky. orange face paint on that are feeling. real [ __ ] right now. >> As we look to the exits and the. Volunteers fans are saying, "Get my ass. back to the South. This one's over.". Bounces it in. Cons. Touchdown. Ohio State. Boys, that was wide ass over.

500 drones. Ones that we know about. This game's over, but uh we're still. bringing. [Applause]. that hilarious. Hell yeah. You earned that, buddy.

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and thousands. of people skipping class to come see. your big ass. >> Listen, there is thousands and thousands. of you skipping class. It doesn't matter. if they go to class. >> Moana is is one of the best animated. films of all time. Okay. Can't wait for. the live action. >> Yes. >> You're welcome. We talk about. >> what can I say except you're welcome. >> and we talk about mana. >> Honestly, listen kid, I could go on and. on. I could explain every natural.

phenomenon. The tide, the grass, the. ground. Oh, that was Maui just messing. around. I couldn't bury it guts sprouted. a tree. Now you got coconuts. What's the. lesson? What does it take away? Don't. mess with Maui when he's on a breakaway. And the temps are here on my skin. There's a map of the victories I win. Look where I've been. I make everything. happen. Look at the me just happen. That's it. Unreal. >> Wow. >> Still got it. >> On the Simone side, Polynesian side, we. have a word called mana. Mana is spirit.

Mana is power. Mana comes from in here. It's the thing that gives you. goosebumps. It's that thing you feel. It's that thing when I walked out and we. felt this thing. This is mana. >> This is mana. >> It's very, very, very real. And you. could feel it. Little things like I. don't get driven anywhere. I don't want. to get driven anywhere. I don't like. chauffeers. shoots me in my way. Just a. little grounded. Like I could drive. myself everywhere and not telling some. guy, "Hey, take me here or take me. there.". >> That is something I'm going to start. saying like, "Yuck." Cuz when they open. your door, you feel so bad. I can open. my own door, dude. They're trying to be.

courteous. It's their job. But also, the. day I stop opening my own door is the. day I become big old [ __ ]. >> Here we go. >> It's all right. It's all right. It's all. right, Mike. >> Here's the iconic sound. You guys know. it. This special Tamana Toast goes out to. Passion. Congratulations on your show. Very proud of you. Very proud of all you. boys. And to all of you. >> Love you guys. Thank you for the. support. Keep kicking ass. Cheers.

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to our humble boat, the Thunderdome on. this BA day, September 2nd, 2025. Hour. three of the program begins now. Football. >> set. >> Yeah, I guess. >> what I was saying is we're all moving on. the ball there. >> and the ball whenever that beat drops. ball is being snapped and then football. is what's coming in there. >> Can they really hear this?

>> Who the every team? >> So when I when you interview a. quarterback these days, all right, tell. call a play and huddle for me and give. me your snap count. Never have. What do. you mean? coach holds his thing up on. the side and I just go like that. [Music]. >> I don't want to get into it. >> Yeah, >> I don't want to get into this right now. I Now is not the time to get into that. >> Yeah, don't get me started. >> Why not? >> Just because. >> here in Indianapolis, we're having a. situation. >> Sure. >> Okay. Where maybe a quarterback had next.

to no experience whenever he was drafted. number four overall. And maybe. experience is a really good thing to. have as quarterback, especially if. you're going to play in the NFL with all. of the things that are going to come. across the desk of the starting. quarterback of the NFL, not just on the. field, but off the field, how you handle. everything. If you have next to no. experience, I think it's going to be. tough thing just to get baptized at that. particular position. And then you talk. about how the expectations a lot of. these college quarterbacks at this level. at this time, maybe not now cuz they got. uh ears, so maybe they do have to call a.

play. Maybe it'll go back to that as. opposed to what everybody was doing on. the sideline where there were signs. being stolen. But it feels like there. was a quite a run there of where. quarterbacks weren't expected to do as. many things as they're going to be. expected to do at the NFL and it was. almost setting them up for failure. whenever they were getting the NFL. So. we we here in Indie see a guy with no. experience and then also if he even had. experience it probably wasn't going to. be necessarily providing pivotal pieces. of information for him to be a. professional quarterback. You're saying. it was getting difficult there to find a. quarterback uh throughout a bit of a.

run. It feels like. >> it was about 12 years of interviewing. quarterbacks who'd never called a play. in a huddle, never used a snap count and. we had to teach them how to do that. Now, >> you were a college football coach, right? >> Yes. >> Was it always that way or or was this. like something that just changed. mightily yourself? I. >> I think tempo started it. You know, everybody want to be uptempo. said he. would just hold up a card and everybody. knew the formation in the play or three. coaches are signaling to the receivers. where to line up tight end where to line. up running back and and they held up a.

card for the play and you know I brought. in a young guy who was a heck of a. prospect for one of those spring visits. and I said look you get in the mirror. I'm going to give you a script call. these plays in the mirror and here's a. snap count and you you look at yourself. and we drafted him and he came back and. he was ready to do. and did a hell of a job with it and and. did okay for us. >> But that was the first time he was. probably doing that. >> First time he'd ever done it. >> That's crazy to think about just because. that moment of you telling the play.

also. Uh I think we heard um Ryan Day. talk about it with Julian Sain about. watching Will Howard command the huddle. And whenever you come into the huddle, just like whenever you're on this show, if you come in soft, weak, you are going. to be assumed to be uh a man that lacks. confidence on our show. in the huddle. Whenever you go in there, first thing. out of your mouth how you're handling. yourself is how you're gonna be judged. by everybody in there. I think that's. what they talk about with JJ McCarthy up. in Michigan. He was a freshman and he. went into a huddle. It was like late in. the game, something everybody was tired,

miserable offensive lineman were tired. JJ McCarthy, they said, went into the. huddle and everybody's like, "This is a. guy." Like the way he just kind of. maneuvered and talked and acted and. probably like the quick little thing he. said afterwards and the way he handled. it all. It's like that's a huge. leadership part of the quarterback. position. I think that carries in other. things. I I think we lost sight of that. NFL stuff. I think they were just trying. to have immediate success in college and. they were thinking to themselves, we got. to win now. I ain't got to worry about. developing this guy to be an NFL guy. But then you saw the NFL change a little. bit too it, right? Did the NFL kind of.

change. It's like Tom Brady's big thing. is like how easy and basic it's getting. for quarterbacks. That was like a big. pitching point whenever he retired. I. think Pton was saying the same things. about how the reads quickly became like. college type reads as opposed to NFL. type reads. Did you see that as well. throughout your career? Yeah, guys were. never reading post snap anymore. Everything was pre- snap. And I think I. look at Ohio State Texas game. And I see. Matt Patricia just totally bamboozle, one of the best young quarterbacks to.

ever come into the game because he had. to learn to do it. You got two seconds. to figure out where this ball's going. All right. And if you if you're seeing. this and they're playing that, if you. don't see it within those first three. steps of your drop, you're going to. throw it to the wrong guy. >> So, you're saying um what Arch Manning. was seeing was something that was by. design to make him look and be as. confused as he looked. Uh he looked. incredibly confused. And you're saying. that was it just Arch or is it the.

entire offense that has to kind of deal. with it? >> Oh, it's everybody, the coaches, everybody. And and you know, when you. don't know what to prepare for, that's. college's problem. When you know, don't. play preseason games. you don't get to. see anything and the first time you see. it, you're on national television. playing number one versus number three. It's like, holy [ __ ] And. >> like that ain't easy. I mean, it's not. easy for a veteran quarterback in the. NFL when you play that system to. >> Okay, let's talk about that system. We. actually have a couple plays. Let's run. this play here. And what we need to look.

at here is pre- snap what it looks like. and then post snap what it looks like, right? And we'll have some screenshots. of it. Let's run the play. So Arch. Manning had to turn his back there a. little bit and then he tried to decipher. figure it out. Can't figure it out. Overthrows because it's kind of a rush. of a throw. Let's go to the pre- snap. shot here. Okay. So what does this look. like for what Arch Manning is looking. at? >> I think for any young quarterback and. vet quarterback in the NFL, they're. going to think that's cover zero. It's. better allout blitz. You got man. coverage all across the board. There's. no deep safety. This guy's playing the. tight end. And post snap, it's totally. different.

>> Flip go to the next one. Okay, so now. the guy. >> you see the backside safety running to. the middle. He's trapping the next. receiver coming over from the right. The. defensive end's dropping to cover the. back and it's totally different than we. saw pre-nap. Now Payton his third second. or third year got this. Tom probably in. his second or third year got this cuz. it's this is complicated now for a. college quarterback especially young guy. starting this is this is the highest. level you get of defensive football and.

Ohio State did a unbelievable job for. their young guys. I think dbo y. >> of not showing giving it away. >> Yeah. So why why do I asked coach Sabin. this last night I said it feels like. people are making a big deal out of what. Matt Patricia was doing. Now granted. everybody said he was getting uh uh that. Arch got bleached or whatever because. Matt Patricia runs a lot of what Bellich. was doing. That's not normal in college. ball. Why is it not normal in college. ball? Because guys give it away. That. seemingly was what you guys were talking. about. >> Yeah. I mean uh these guys played. together. First of all you got Igmanosen. who's been there for a while. I think.

he's a senior. He played a b lot of. important ball. Caleb DS who we talked. about not only who what he is physically. but mentally what he can handle and what. he can communicate. You know we just. talked about preparing and how these. quarterbacks were kind of illprepared. for the next level. It's the same thing. with defensive backs. It would be guys. who came in who never backpedal never. shuffle never had to have a two to1 read. just played press manto man coverage. So, uh, the thing about, you know, Bill. and his operation in New England, it. wasn't about just players that were. talented, but it was about players that. can get it between the ears and that way. you can communicate, you can adjust.

during games, you can adjust on the. sideline, you can and then week to week, you can make those type of adjustments. So, Matty P just brought that to Ohio. State and then you the talent you said. is the key, right? >> Caleb DS is the he's the quarterback of. that defense. So you can do multiple. things and when you can adjust those. coverages and and lie cuz you can have a. disguise but if I'm a Nickelback and I'm. showing something here but it's a safety. capping me like the quarterback knows. okay put him in the put him in he's. possibly pressure but like if we're all.

on the same page if I'm showing. something the quarter uh the safety. showing middle post closed or something. like that now that's showing a real. picture to that quarterback and then. post snap he has to process that in. those you know two two and a half. seconds to get that off and that's tough. for NFL quarterbacks, let alone a. freshman, I mean a junior making his. first start against a big time program. like this. >> It's crazy to think though that like um. you mentioned rookie quarterback's going. to be tough to figure this type of [ __ ]. out. >> More colleges should do this. I guess. it's just hard to find the guys, huh?

That's. >> to to have the athletic ability and the. brains. Those cats are very few. They. they go to the NFL. You know, every what. 2% go to the NFL. Those guys go to the. NFL. Ohio State just have about four or. five of them. >> Yeah. Well, and they had 14 of them last. year. That's why reloading so many guys. and both coordinators was such a big. deal for this Ohio State team to see how. they were going to be. Well, it feels. like they got it right. And on the. defensive side, it feels like Matt. Patricia knows that he walked into a. loaded group, but also a very. intelligent group. And congratulations,

number one team in the country. >> Ohio State Buckeyes AP poll just came. out. Ohio State Buckeyes number one in. the country. Congratulations, AJ. I know. this is what you guys wanted all off. season. Wow. That's what you guys want. >> That's what we care about. We care about. preseason polls and polls after week. one. That really that really gets. national. >> Oh, congratulations. O. >> Yep. IO. >> Oh, >> let's see. Hey, let's just do it in. December and January, fellas. >> Oh, I. >> number one team in the country. >> Come on now. >> Way to go.

>> Great. Great. Congrats. >> Good season. >> You know what's awesome? >> See if we're there at the end. >> I said this uh on game day at the very. beginning. This team won the national. championship and their fans do not care. >> Yeah, >> they do. it. We don't care. >> Go ahead and lose today by a couple. touchdowns. Go ahead. See, >> I dare you. We'll be right back into. what it was last year. That is. legitimately the expectations at Ohio. State. That's why it's like I think if. you're Ryan Day, the way he talks about. it and you heard Will Howard and you. listen to everybody, it's like it is an. honor to play here. This is going to be.

around long after us. We are just kind. of the wearers of the uniform at this. current moment and uh we know what all. comes with it. And it feels like Caleb. DS out of Alabama. What a Especially if. Matt Patricia is gonna lead this type of. [ __ ] defense where it's like we're. doing a lot of movement. >> Yeah, you got to get them on first and. second down. You don't see that [ __ ] on. first and second. They do a great job of. getting in third and six or more. Then. God bless you if you can read that. stuff. >> What do you do? Run against these teams. Is that what you got to do? What is the. >> I think you get your shots early. You. get your you got you got to run the. football, but you got to get your shots. on first and second down against them.

where they're normal, you know? And I. know second down if you're in three. wides, Matty's playing a 5-1. That's it. gonna stop the run with that. >> Oh, five down. >> Five down. Cover everybody with one. middle linebacker. Well, there there's. some good things to run against that, but there's only few coverages you can. run with that. >> Have you ever thought about getting into. college ball again at this stage of your. life and calling offense? >> Never. [Music]. >> How easy would it be for you? >> Uh, it'd be hard. You know, it'd be hard. because of the rules. I mean, cats never.

First of all, nobody knows how to block. or tackle anymore because you can't. practice it. I love I love that you're. just this I mean tackling tackling is a. lost art. I say everybody's like a dummy. with no arms. >> I mean. >> we got to coach it, coach. >> Yeah, but you're not allowed to. In high. school, you're only allowed what 3 days. you can actually tackle. >> Pennsylvania, you're only allowed. Pennsylvania. You're only allowed one. week of training camp before the season. started. That I had no idea that was a. rule. That's an actual rule. I don't. know if it's all of Pennsylvania or just. Whipple. Tone, is it Whipple or all of.

Pennsylvania? >> All of PA. >> All of PA. Yeah. >> I assume it's in other states, too. You. like that? In Ohio, Isaiah, >> you got to go down south. They got. spring practice. They got summer. practice. It never stops. >> Down there. Down there in the south. We're playing high school for so we're. not. >> What does that mean? What? One week of. camp. What does that mean? What do they. consider camp? >> I read into it. The first week now has. to be like this conditioning period. where acclamation period. >> Yeah, exactly. That's what the. acclamation period where, you know, you. can only wear pads for so so long and. then you can only be out there for two. or three hours a day or whatever. They.

don't want people dying. Okay. When did. the boys learn how to tackle? >> Game day. >> Week two. >> That's why that's the toughest thing in. the pros. That's why the early like week. one, week two, like you going to see. some shitty shitty tackling. Even though. defenses are ahead of the game, but guys. making too much. You're not tackling. Saquon and AJ Brown, these guys in. practice. So the only live tackling reps. you're going to get is when the bright. lights are on and these guys get paid a. [ __ ] ton of money to not get tackled. one-on-one. That's why defense is all. about running to the ball, tackling with.

leverage, taking your shots, trusting. the guy on the inside or the outside of. you because guys are too good to just. tackle in open field, you know, one-on-one. So, yeah, that the only when. >> and nobody's playing in the preseason. >> Yeah, that's okay. >> No, no, people back. Felt like this year. there was more people playing. >> All right. Because they're learning. their lesson. >> Last year there was nobody playing. It. felt like we had ass football for a bit. It did feel like we had some shitty. football early. This year it felt like. more people played. Maybe we're just. paying attention to it more because. we're talking about it, but it did feel. like more guys played. >> No, I I I think you have to. I mean, you.

got to get at least a half in, you know, just to feel as a team. >> Uh like Kansas City. >> Yeah. Come in, come out, you know. >> Yeah. Patrick Mahomes out there. Travis. is out there, you know, they're doing. their thing. They feel that way. What. did Philadelphia do? Do we know? >> I don't play anybody. >> Tanner McKe had an unbelievable. preeason. The Bengals, they they Burrow and Chase. were out there. >> First time. First Sergeant, big time. Steelers fan. Over in Australia, he. asked a couple of times. >> We don't think Aaron should just maybe. take a few snaps in a preseason. Just.

kind of go through the warm-up, just. experience it. Pittsburgh Steeler, maybe. just. >> You said the fans could maybe see what. it looks like, too. Maybe just, you. know, something. I'm like, I don't think. he's a big preseason guy. Like, if he. was to get hurt in that preseason game, you guys would all kill Tomlin for. having him out there. So, it's like that. decision is always happening. He was. like, "Yeah, but we could have seen a at. least a. >> take a snap.". >> Yeah. He said, "We could have just one. We could have seen I was like, I don't. think he's I think he was actually. trying to change the entire preseason. I. think he was actually thinking about.

changing the entire thing.". >> Well, our Super Bowl year, we didn't. have a preseason. >> Yeah, co. You're right. >> It's co. So, for the first time, we. actually scrimmaged. >> I was like, you talk about holding your. breath, brother. First of all, Tommy. never been in the stadium. And they had. that decibel thing that they came out. with with no fans. They're gonna have. this decibel thing. I say, "Okay." We. went in, we turned it up. You couldn't. hear [ __ ]. It's really going to be this loud. And. And we're tackling. We're tackling. And. I'm like, "Oh shit." So we had to do.

this twice. >> Two scrimmages. >> Two scrimmages. >> And how how far apart were they? >> Uh week. >> One week. But it was uh offense, defense. >> Offense versus first first best on best. How many different periods did we do? We. did all periods or we did actual. >> I think 40 plays. 40 plays and I had. enough of this [ __ ]. >> Holding your breath every single step. >> Oh god. Yeah. >> Both sides there. >> Yeah. I mean I was like Vas, oh man. Don't don't get me. It was It was scary, bro.

>> Had to do it though. You felt awful. We. had to we had we had first of all we had. to tackle somebody and it's like we we. got to get in the stadium and see our. new guys get in there and know where to. go and there's your locker room and. here's there not going to be any fans in. stands but it's okay here we go. >> That's crazy. I know you you coached 47. years like was that I know was the most. you know most unique. Was that the most. difficult year by far I mean that was. challenging but I I got to give our. players credit man and our owners and we. had a huge advantage being in Florida.

We we could be I never did one Zoom. meeting the entire year. >> Great state. >> I feel like you lose a lot of. connectivity whenever you're doing. Zooms. >> Yeah. I don't even if they're watching. >> Yeah. >> You know I mean are they really over. there? I mean it's like so we built. outdoor facilities to to locker rooms, eating, meeting rooms, everything was. outside all the way to the Super Bowl. >> Now the Northern teams would be freezing. their ass off, >> but we had this huge advantage. >> That's not your fault. >> No, I love it. >> Yeah, it's perfect down here too. I'm. actually happy we're outside. We should. do this every year. Actually, this is.

something we should continue on here, man. >> But man, that that that we our guys. bought in and I told him said if we beat. the virus, we'll win the we'll win the. whole thing. >> cuz guys are going to be missing time. We had I think two or three maybe. players miss a game individually. >> That was stressful every week though, right? You never knew who was going to. be. >> Got what? God, we got tested every day. and the playoffs got tested twice a day. >> So in the NBA they were That's crazy. Were they shoving the thing up the nose. too? How about how far that was going? Remember that made me cry every time. >> Yeah. >> It was a touch in We touched the brain.

Yep. >> That's the only place they'll tell us if. if you got it or not. >> Yeah. But it worked. >> Feels pretty uncomfortable. >> Yeah. It was very accurate. >> It worked. So like at the end of the. day, >> how about us pulling into that parking. garage for WWE and people coming out in. Ebola suits with those sticks about to. shove up my nose. >> All right, roll your window down. Don't. look at us though, please. >> Why are you Look straight ahead. >> Gloves on. Shoving that thing all the. way up to my brain. All right, we gota. get I don't know if it's up there yet. It is. I can feel it. Oh, no. We need a.

little bit more. All right. Can't get. that contaminated. >> Yeah, he's positive. >> That's almost what it felt like. >> I mean, remember the the what was it? The Korean uh net. They were they were. catching people over in like South. Korea. >> It was a wall time. >> It was crazy. >> So, that's why when people attack like. the Lakers won in the bubble down there, it's like, is that a real championship? It's like, man, do you remember there. was a lot of [ __ ] going on? >> Like the amount of obstacles that. everybody had to go through. I would say.

I would argue. >> that if you could put that asterisk in. proper perspective, people would be more. impressed with that championship than. without it. I legitimately think that. because of all the obstacle, nobody. really talks about the NFL one cuz it. happened in a stadium. Everybody watched. it, the games are played, everything. like that. It's not really ever chatted. about as being one that's not viewed as. equal. The NBA definitely this one I. don't think it's ever been chatted. about. But with that being said, in the. future, it's gonna be hard to explain. how hard it was to even have that. [ __ ] season. I mean, just play a.

game, let alone everything else. >> Early on, I can't remember what week it. was, but I think it was like the Titans. or someone like, and it went through the. locker, they had like 13 guys that were. down for Sunday. And we were like, >> there's no way they're going to be able. to play a full This is going to happen. every single week to a couple different. teams. You're going to be expected to go. and it's like, well, actually, you're. going to have six starters on offense. and defense that aren't going to be able. to play on Sunday. And the guys that. you're signing uh that aren't in your. building, they have to stay in a hotel. uh locked away from everybody for 8 days. or something. Eight days or something.

like that. So they can't practice. They're on your team. >> Unless they had the antibodies that. >> the antibodies was the key. [ __ ]. >> I tell you what was crazy about that. year. The my wife met Tom Brady for the. first time on the stage at the Super. Bowl. >> Oh. Because you guys weren't really able. to see anybody. >> That's crazy. >> Which once again sucks with building. camaraderie and building a team. >> And uh I mean it was most bizarre year. coaching. We're opening up New Orleans and it's. empty. I'm a little loud. I cussed a.

little bit, you know, and I'm cussing at. one of their players. He's like, "Damn, coach, it's going to be like that." I. said, "Hell yeah, brother.". >> He could hear you. Yeah. Everyone, it. wasn't as loud as what the first decel. thing they told you was going to be. >> Wasn't any noise. It was crazy. I could. hear Sean. He could hear me. >> Yeah. Ben Rothosberger. big. >> The thing about Ben Rothosberger is. allegedly the DBs could just hear him. telling the wide receivers what routes. to run cuz I guess Rothosberger is a guy. that just will say hey run slant. >> like on the field and I guess that that.

was the story that was coming out rights. were like just don't let him know we can. hear him. We can hear everything he's. doing out there. Ben was the old school. guy, huh? Felt like. >> [ __ ] go deep. >> One of the best brothers. in big games. >> I'll take him over all of them. He's. just a dog, right? >> Total. >> He is in everything. It feels like he's. a massive [ __ ] talker. >> Take him over all of them, Bruce. All. >> in a big game. >> Bruce. Bruce. All. >> you heard what he said. You all heard. what he said. We did. I heard.

>> he's the only one that I've had that had. to go 92 yards to win the Super Bowl. >> That's fair. >> And And he won. And Hines Hines. shouldn't even been in the game. He was. he his knee was gone. >> Mhm. >> Nate had a separated shoulder. He only. had two guys that could catch. San. Antonio and Heath and And of course he. kept feeding Tone. >> Absolutely. One of the greatest catches. in the history of football. >> But the throw was better. Ben should. have been MVP. >> Oh, you're still bummed out about that? >> I'm still pissed about it. Yeah. >> I think Ben probably bummed out about it.

as well. >> Right. If you look at that throw. >> and it's like he bit he lobbs it back. there and just sticks his hands up. >> Great catch. Great toe tap as well. I. mean the throw insane. The fact that you. guys won awesome. Uh, and I love that. you just said that about Ben Rothesber. And I don't know if you heard there was. a climax in Hammer Down time. Tone, you. love everything you just said right. there. I might put it as your uh ex bio. >> Yeah, I I do because. Ben gets a lot of credit or whatever, but like playing during Brady and. Manning's era and then Breeze was there.

as well and like I don't know if he gets. as many flowers as he should. Um, but. no, hear hearing that was awesome. Um, he's my hero. You know that. Trying to. get seven this year though, Tom. Maybe. you get it. Maybe. >> I woke up this morning and I literally. thought to myself, I I I am will I can't. wait to go to Helen back with Aaron. Rogers. >> Hell, you might go. >> It's not too hot. It's not too hot down. there, brother. >> Okay. Exactly. >> Mother, I might be taking you on a trip, too. >> That's right. >> I'll go to the eighth dimension and.

back. >> Okay. >> Okay. All right. I like that. You should. do that as a Maybe you have to do that. before the season. Really? >> Before the program one day and then we. just kind of sit with Tone. >> Yeah. I think before the season 2 to pay. respects to Mother Eye. >> Yes. >> And to Aaron obviously I think you. should have to do that. >> No, he doesn't do that anymore. >> Make some calls. >> Do you know? Do we know that? >> Yeah, I talked to him yesterday. >> What' you say? >> Said, "What's up, dude?" He said, "I'm. ready. Can't wait.". >> And then you asked him about I was. >> No, I didn't want to. I didn't want to. talk to him too much. That was kind of. like um unwritten unspoken words.

>> Cuz words have curses. >> No, >> spells. >> Words are spelled. >> They're casted. They cast spells. watching. >> If that's how you guys want to take it, that's how you take it. >> Oh, you you receive that message. differently from your quarterback and. man who's gonna bring seven to. Pittsburgh. >> I can't wait. >> Are you guys winning the Super Bowl this. year? >> I don't see why not. Do you? >> [ __ ] it. Why not? Packed AFC. >> Packed. >> Yeah. Only thing I can think of is. Cincinnati and Baltimore. That might be. a problem. >> Cincinnati, Baltimore, Buffalo,

Indianapolis, Kansas City. You know, >> one of those doesn't fit, but I got you. I'm not worried about the division. Division. Yo, you know how it is. BA the. division. You take care of the division. You were there. >> Yeah, that's it. You're right. >> Bills, Chiefs. Yeah, those though. >> Broncos. >> He's still got to show me. >> Chargers. >> He's got to show me what Ben did. That's. winning in Baltimore. >> Yeah. >> I mean, hello hit him one time, busted. his nose. >> He came over the sideline. Is it okay?

His nose was like over here somewhere. Byron goes, he says, "Is that bad, Doc? You're good, >> Bruce. >> Was that you? Were you there? Was that. with AB when he ran the like the slot go. against the Ravens to win? >> Yes. >> Yeah, it was. >> That's one of his first big big catches. >> Yeah. >> Antonio Brown's good at football. >> Alana's nose was off of his face as. [Music]. Okay. >> Fist right to the no. No roughing the. passer.

>> No flag. >> No flag whatsoever. >> Ben never got it. >> Back from ball was ball. Yeah, that's. back when Ben was rolling out there with. two boots. >> Yeah, >> he was two boots before. >> What a beast. Ben Rothersburg. Good. podcast host as well. Is this it right. here? Third and eight. >> He's got his right foot taped. It's. probably broken if I had to guess. >> That' be a three. >> That Mike Wallace. >> Oh, that was the punch in the nose from. Hello. Okay. On the way down there, I. think you saw him wrapping up and it. kicked to the back of the head.

>> T Sizzle got him in the back of the. head. Uh, was that Suggs? Sorry. Yeah, Suggs with the kick. >> Oh, yeah. >> Leaking. >> Yep. Can't even tell, Ben. Can't even. tell. >> You look good. >> Raven Steelers. So awesome. >> Oh, dude. >> Hello. Was a monster. >> Boom. Left hand right to the face. >> Hello. Nada with a left hook to your. face. >> Yeah, you're good, dude. >> His hand. >> You can't even tell. Oh my god, that. head hurt so bad. >> Oh my god. So, you like Ben.

Rothersburgger, obviously. Andrew Luck. >> as a as a. >> Pton Manning. No, I'm just saying. >> I love him. Yeah. I can't never say. who's the best. >> Tom Brady. >> Well, he kind of did. >> Yeah. Carson Palmer. Even Timmy Couch. Timmy Couch took us Cleveland Browns to. the playoffs. >> Tim Couch. >> broke his leg in the last game and then. Kelly Hul goes in and throws for 420. yard against the Steelers. >> That's so many quarterbacks that you've. worked with though, just like throughout. the history of football. You getting to. work Tom Brady at the end of it, I. thought was really cool. >> It was fun. It was a lot of fun. Yeah, because that like your umbrella of.

coaches and your people. Tom Brady. seemingly was never going to be able to. experience I would I love I mean he's. chatted about how you're vastly. different than Bill, but I would like to. get his entire thoughts on like your. guys' operation versus how Bill run. because you guys both won Super Bowls, you know? So, it's like such an. interesting dynamic on how a building is. run. >> The funniest The funniest Tom Moore. who's hilarious. >> Oh, yeah. They're great. >> He's like, I got to root for this. [ __ ]. I've hated him for 20 years. I said, "We're going to love him now, Tom.".

You're damn right we are, brother. >> Yeah. Yeah. We have an opportunity to. get Tom Brady in this building. We. definitely love him, buddy. >> Yeah. I mean, he was talking about. earlier when he was like starting out. coaching or maybe not starting out when. he was coaching for Bear Bryant. It's. like I don't know. Yeah. For Alabama, it's like that that's for I mean, as a. new school dude, if you will, that's. like the first coach you hear about. growing up as like the father of college. football coach. >> That's black and white film. Yeah, that's what that is. >> Oh, and you want to think about coach? He sub we played 66 players in every.

game. He substituted every player. No. assistant coach ever think about sending. on that field. >> Okay. So, um, so he just wanted the. whole team to play. He didn't want. starters. >> Allan Gray would start at quarterback. the first series. Then he was the PP the. rest of the game. >> and two other quarterbacks would come in. and play. >> This is Bear Bryant football. >> Mhm. >> Is that how it always was? Always he. always he believed in just wearing you. out with waves and waves of of fresh.

players. >> Just soldiers. >> Waves of soldiers. >> And you say he. >> he personally did all the substitution. >> everyone. >> That's crazy. >> You all the way to the Liberty Bowl at. 10. >> Yeah. For people that don't know head. that's head coaches don't do that at. least today. Like it's defensive. They. have like a one of the assistant coach. who responsible for every group nickel. dime. Offense I'm sure it's the same. thing. special teams. You Hey, you have. your punt unit. Like that's insane. >> There's a lot happening there. Commotion. coming on and off. Too many men, not. enough men. I mean, that is a real.

thing. So for one 66 subs. >> Yeah. Unbelievable, bro. We have. >> Unbelievable. Other team in hell. >> Full speed. >> Who is this guy? >> I had I had nine or 12 running backs get. ready every game. Wishbone. >> That's so cool. >> I did not know this. How are we just now. learning? This is Bear Bryant football. >> Oh yeah. >> 12 running backs. Yeah. >> You're gonna have hail today. Our 10th. Our 10th running back. He's the most. powerful team in his life. >> We got thunder, lightning, thunder,

thunder, thunder, lightning, thunder, lightning, thunder, >> tornado, hurricane. >> We're playing Kentucky. We're playing. Kentucky. We're supposed to be beating. them by 30. We're losing in the fourth. quarter. >> How our starters eight string beating. game. We got the ball on the two- yard. line coming out and the four string guys. are in there. I'm like I'm in the press. back going Mal Moore who's our offense. coord. hired Nick and uh M what the what the. [ __ ] are we doing? Get Lenny get the. good guys. He ain't saying [ __ ] right.

man. One dude makes an unbelievable. one-handed catch. The other guy makes. the best block. Quarterback runs. We get. out to the 20. Here come the third. breads. We scored in three plays. I. never questioned him ever again. >> Yeah. >> You use the fours to get to get to the. set up the ones. >> He trusted them. He trusted them. They. were all seniors. All right. He trusted. him to do the right thing to get us out. of there and then he put the threads. back in. >> That's awesome. That's crazy. >> I had no idea. Well, there are no famous. anecdotes about a specific Bear uh.

Bryant substitute player. The legendary. coach navigated several different eras. of substitution roles during his career. One of his hallmarks was using platoon. systems and substitutions to his. advantage like hockey line two, ensuring. players were fresh and assignments were. met. Wow. I didn't know that was the. case. >> That's the coolest thing I've ever. heard. >> Yeah. I didn't know that one too, right? We won a lot. >> They more than any I mean. >> what I think in the 70s they were 110. 105 and 10. >> That's cuz they just. >> Yeah. >> I don't have if you seen the special on.

the wishbone. >> Just came out. >> Okay. >> It's It's a great tribute to Well, I. think one of the brightest minds ever is. Emry Bard. He he invented the wishbone. and Daryl Royal. let Chuck Fairbank send Barry. Switzerland guys down to Texas and learn. the wishbone from Emery and coach sent. his Jimmy Sharp and those guys over to. learn the wishbone and and that flipped. both programs. >> Okay. So football owes the.

>> It's a heck of a documentary. >> You're saying football owes the wishbone. and the documentary definitely says. >> totally. Yeah. It's awesome. >> It's like the Model T car. >> Yeah. It's like need that at the. beginning because you think about the. wishbone what Army Navy was running it. >> That's how they're beating everybody up. to three years ago. >> Yeah. Because everybody got to the air. raid which was it much like what you. were talking about there. Howal mummy. right starts the air raid. Then his. people start like kind of going across. and the air raid takes over football. Not just college football takes over all. of football. Everybody starts getting. smaller. Now this wishbone comes in and.

starts hammering everybody. It's like. football is so cyclical. That is like. such a an obvious thing. Which leads to. number one player in the NFL, running. back, Saquon Barkley. Congratulations. Welld deserved. >> Running back. Just a couple years ago, you guys didn't want to pay him. You. didn't want to pay running backs a. couple years ago. And now Saquon Barkley. got paid two years in advance. And how. much is he making per year? 20. >> I I want to say. Yeah. 19520. He just. got an extension. It was like 2 years. 42, I thought. So total money, I'm not. sure on what he was making. So, from a.

time where, you know, he was let out of. the Giants building, uh, all on hard. knocks, where everybody saw it all. unfold, to a time where no running backs. were getting paid, he signs a deal with. Philadelphia for less money than he. probably could have made some places. Does very well, and then they re-up him. immediately and say, "Hey, we appreciate. you here. We're going to pay you." And. then his peers around the NFL are going. to vote him the number one player in the. NFL. What an exit from the New York. Giants for Saquon Barkley. Everything. has gone great since leaving that. organization. AJ obviously well-earned. for Saquon and it all and he carried the.

NFL there on his back for a bit. We were. watching the Saquon Barkley show and the. Philadelphia Eagles offensive line show. for a good three four weeks during that. playoff run with the most amount of. eyes. >> Well yeah I think that's a scary thing. for their opponents this year. They're. returning Saquon and the offensive line. So that's you know at at the very worst. they're going to be still very very good. on the ground. But the thing is other. teams say oh there's the formula that's. what we're going to do. We got to run. the ball like there's only one Saquon. though. We know that and there's only. like you got to put together an. offensive line. You got to find either. running back by committee or somebody.

Squinesesque to be your guy. But like. yeah, Saquon is a special special dude. >> Seaquin has the power of 12 running. backs like it was back in the day. What. do you see in Saquon and more. specifically the offensive line and the. way they go about running their offense. over there in Philadelphia that you love. BA? >> Big big fan of Nick Serriani. He's got a. great respect for the game, you know, and the history of the game. Uh, but. that offensive line is not back. >> Really? >> Mai Beckton's gone. >> Mhm. >> Dickerson's hurt.

>> Yep. >> Yeah. He was drinking beers after. practice. We think he wouldn't be. drinking beers after practice. >> Practice on Monday for a Thursday night. game. That scares me. >> Yeah, but he was drinking beers on a. practice shoot. >> They They were expecting him. >> That's okay. I mean, we Who doesn't? >> I guess you're right. I guess you're. right. I guess you're right. That. shouldn't be an indicator that he's. good. He's just feeling. >> Yeah. It's not the same offensive line, but uh Saquon is is he runs like a 150lb. back and he runs like a 250lb back. >> Mhm. >> He's got the feet of of that shifty.

little guy that that net scatback guy, but he's got the power of Earl Campbell. I mean, this guy's he's unique and he. was unique coming out and uh yeah, I. would have paid him because he also can. run routes and and be a a great. receiver. He's a very unique player. >> I guess he's a leader, too, in the the. locker room. Loves him. >> Great person. He got the whole He's got. the whole package. >> Loves golf, too. I guess golf. I guess. he loves go. Yeah, Pennsylvania guy, which is obviously good news. And uh. Sirriani, let's go back to that. You.

talk about respect for the game. His dad. was a coach, right? If I do uh recall, in Western Pennsylvania. Where'd he at? IUP. >> Yes, sir. >> Coach IP. Indiana University of. Pennsylvania. Obviously that that that. place has a lot of good time in its. history and I think probably in its. presence if I had to guess in the future. >> they have and probably in the future. they're going to have a lot of good. times at IUP. But you're talking about. just like old school football and what. did he tell Howie uh that his dad. thought of coach Siri? told Howie what. >> O line D line Howie O line D line. >> that's what his dad believes that's what.

he believes and they do their front four. on defense and then their offensive line. even though you uh point out a couple. things that are certainly going to be. maybe a little bit of adversity for them. to figure out in the first they build. through the offensive line and defensive. line. >> to that's way to do it. >> I think so too. >> and that's that's always been my. philosophy too you know like if I get a. quarterback I'm not dropping two. receivers I'm dropping two tackles all. right and a setter. >> inside out. Yeah, but those two guys got to protect. him and that guy's got to run it up.

front. Jeff Saturday. All right. Who. came out of nowhere? >> North Carolina. >> And uh. >> where was he last night? >> Good question. >> He's North Carolina. >> He just had open heart surgery. >> What? >> Oh [ __ ]. >> Okay. >> Jeff, we hope you're okay. >> We know where you were. >> Jeez. >> He had a He had an aneurysm had to have. fixed. >> What? >> Jeff, he's in peace. By the way, that's. scary. I'm happy to hear you. >> Real scary, >> Jeff. good human for society. So, I'm. happy to hear he's okay. >> One of the best. Yeah. >> Okay. North Carolina. Let's get some. wins for Jeff. He's on a mend. Jeez.

Louise. But Jeff Saturday center for. Pton Mann. A huge ordeal. That obviously. became a relationship for 11 years, 12. years. >> Crazy how he got there. >> I forget who got hurt. We had enough. offensive lineman for camp. And we had. drafted defensive lineman out of North. Carolina. Forget who it was. He went in. and told Bill Poland, "You'll bring Jeff. Saturday in. You know, he's one of the. toughest guys I ever went against." And. Howard goes, "He too damn little.". >> Jeff comes in, he starts what, 14, 15. years. >> Howard Mud. >> Howard, one of his favorite people. Oh, one of the best.

>> offensive line coach dog. >> Oh, the best. >> Absolute. There were some legends on. that coaching staff. >> Oh, >> rest in peace, JT. Rest in peace. What. an absolute beast on defensive side over. there, too. Colts had a lot of great. ones, man. And we're going to do it. again with Danny Dimes, who was another. part of that Hard Knox. You know, whenever Saquon left, run player in the. NFL. They stuck with Danny Dimes. It. didn't work out. Now he's an idi. He's. going to be an allp pro. Here's the top. 10 voted on by the players. Congratulations Lamar Jackson number. two. Josh Allen number three. Jamar. Chase number four. Mahomes, Joe Burrow,

Derrick Henry, Miles Garrett, Justin. Jefferson, and Patrick Certan I round. out the top 10 players voted on by their. peers going into the season. Dut, how do. you feel about top 10? Got a defensive. guy up there. >> Yeah, I think it's a good list. Got the. defensive player of the year at 10 with. Patrick Certain. Miles Garrett, you. know, I guess his peers view him as the. best pass rusher in the league. Uh Lamar. Jackson, back toback years at number. two. I thought his season last season. has been his best so far in his career.

He's already a two-time uh MVP. Could. have easily been number one, but Saquon. deservedly so. I think he was deserving. as well. Jamar Chase, Triple Crown, best. receiver in the game right now. Justin. Jefferson right there behind him. I. think this is a quality top 10. And. Saquon, he got all the hype uh. deservingly so. Derrick Henry had a. phenomenal year last year. I think Jir. Gibbs will be in the conversation for. best running back in the league this. year. And Bejian Robinson too can be in. that conversation as well. Some special. special backs right now. >> It feels like the players here are. talking about the Baltimore Ravens. Not.

a lot of talk about the Baltimore Ravens. from the media. >> No, no, >> nobody's except for Butter. >> Yeah, >> obviously Butter's doing a lot of. talking about the Ravens, which we. appreciate. >> They got to get it this year. >> They can though, right? >> They got I mean they're st. >> The guy that I think should be on there. is TJ Watt. >> Okay. All right. You're saying in the. division. >> game record enough. >> He was number 11. >> I mean, no old lineman. >> Don't say that to debuts, coach. >> Okay. >> I love TJ. He's a dog. >> Oh, I heard what you said. Oh, feels. like the players think Miles Garrett's. the best passer. I know. I heard what.

you did. >> I'm just saying what the peers say. I'm. not in the locker room anymore. I'm just. I just talking to my. >> Did you do this top 100 vote? >> I did not. Oh, as a player. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. We I just folks here and Patrick. Mahomes, too. I didn't want to. disrespect Patrick Mahomes. is up there. at five, which is based on his year last. year, >> I don't think he was a top five player. >> Wow. >> But coming into this year with how the. Super Bowl ended, I think he's going to. come in uh scorch earth this year. I. think he's got something to prove, but. >> they left that Nebraska Cincy game a. little early. He had to get to bed. Obviously had kids. Well, you know, he.

he actually commented, I don't know if. you saw that. So, they posted Patch. Mahomes living Dylan Royola's game. early. Jeez. Like he was committed to. staying that whole [ __ ] game. Great. old memes because of that. >> Yeah. How do you guys feel about that? >> I didn't like it at all. I I like. Patrick Mahomes underneath going, "Yeah, I'm a [ __ ] adult, dude. I got kids. >> Three kids.". >> Sorry, man. I I came to show love. I did. try to come show love here. >> That guy does a lot of stuff like him. >> Mhm. >> I don't like. >> too much. I know we're having Matt Rule.

on the program every year. I don't. [ __ ] like be your own man. >> This thing sucks. He everything else. fine. They don't do this. They don't do. like the the hurry up thing. This has. never been seen except for Mahomes. And. people don't really like it when Mahomes. does it. So when M apartments, which is. definitely the best nickname for him, when he starts doing it, then people. >> That's a nickname. What's the name? >> M apartments like Apartments Mahomes. instead of Mahomes. >> Yeah. A lot of people on the internet. apartments um for Royola, which again is.

great. But but this is the only like cuz. the warm-up stuff it's like, okay, you're trying to emulate him, be like. him. Condo. >> Yeah. >> Bingo. >> My lake house. >> Moilla. >> Okay. I love the internet. >> I would have never thought of that. >> Genius. >> Yeah. Absolutely. I love the internet. It's the greatest place on earth. There's a lot of things, but he I mean, why not emulate the next go? >> Exactly. No. And that's why the on the. field stuff is cool, but this thing. >> it's not cool.

>> This is the one. Yeah. You're right. That's right. The on the field stuff. I. cannot. man him coming out and jumping around. like Mahomes. Him wearing exactly what. Mahomes does with the glasses and the. necklace. Like, I get it. Be your own. [ __ ] man, dude. You're the number. one, you know, ranked prospect coming. out. You're not Patrick Mahomes. You. don't. And you know what? He doesn't. even really look like him that much. Okay. He doesn't. So, we can [ __ ]. stop that right now. >> What are you talking about? >> I just I don't know. No, he doesn't. Mahomes. No, he doesn't. When you see it. 400 times a day, every single day, the.

more you see it, it's like, you know. what? They really don't look that much. alike. They have a similar haircut. Sure, I mean, I'm sick of it. Be your. own man. >> Dylan, that opinion does exist. Tai has. it. Others have it as well. There are. >> And I didn't have a problem with it. I. really didn't. And then I was watching. the Cincy game. I was like, you know. what? [ __ ] it. I'm done with this [ __ ]. I'm sick and tired of seeing it. Because. it's all we talk about every game. Every. game. You can see him realize it halfway. through him doing this too. You've seen. that clip. He goes like this like twice.

and then realizes like. >> that's not what [ __ ]. >> And then and then like went like this on. his helmet and then waits and go. Okay, never mind. Let's [ __ ] it. Here it is. Yeah. Come on. No. No. No. Tuttle. Let's. total. >> Yeah. [ __ ] that. We'll total up. >> Oh, see. Come on. >> Trying to get the play into his helmet. Give me a play. The only thing Sure. That's a reach. >> That was a reach. Everything you just. did was a retreat. >> No, because when you partner it with all. the [ __ ] [ __ ] dressing exactly like. on him, the whole warm-up thing, all.

that stuff, when you partner them. together. >> Oh, so you feel exactly how he feels, too. It sounds like you were trying not. to there for a bit. It feels like you. kind of snapped. >> I am not a college football team guy. The Iowa thing, you could argue kind of. factor. >> It may play a small role. >> You could argue that factors in. I I. don't I like Raiola. I think he's nasty. and I don't think he needs to do all. that [ __ ] That's why the extra stuff. Also, he's the son of an old lineman. He's like [ __ ] 6'8. It's like, dude, you could you could do some really cool.

stuff when you're 6'8. I I I don't know. But Momes doesn't have all the cool like. he's not eye to eye with Trey Smith like. Raola. You could just be like the. biggest, toughest, grittiest son of a. [ __ ]. >> He's going to be. >> I don't know cuz he's tick tocking and. he's doing he's doing this. >> He's not ticking. Coach R said no more. tick. >> I'm seeing clips. I don't know. All of a. sudden I might be an Iowa fan. The more. we talk about this, I'm like, >> is it Iowa or Nebraska? Is that how that. goes? I can't either at this table. >> It can't be one or the other. >> Oh, really? Is that real? >> Like Auburn, Alabama.

>> Well, it's interesting you bring that up. because uh in the last 11 years, Iowa's. beat Nebraska 10 times. Nebraska's won. once. And people from Nebraska like to. act like it's some big rivalry. It's. not. They were never in the Big 10. They. are recently, you know. So, no. Iowa. fans don't think like that at all. >> But you hate this guy because he's at. Nebraska. So maybe you do. >> No, that that certainly plays a role. >> So maybe. >> I I also hate him because like I said, >> Jesus, you can't hate this guy. >> You You put those words into my mouth.

and. he's a college kid. I don't give a [ __ ]. you know, dude doing every part. I'm. just saying I'm sick and tired of he. threw 15 touchdowns and 11 interceptions. last year. He ain't [ __ ] Patrick. Mahomes. So let's stop with that. >> What's Granowski doing? We like where. Granoski's at? >> Well, I don't know. He won the FCS. Heisman last year. So, if he wants to. act like [ __ ] Josh Allen who won MVP, I think that makes a little bit more. sense cuz he's, you know, proofs in the. pudding. I mean, we'll again, like I. said, we'll see. We'll see. It's It's. going to be a good season. It's going to. be a good season. >> Is he acting like Josh Allen? I didn't.

know that. >> No, not really. He's just a put your put. your head down and go to work kind of. guy, which is what I appreciate about. him. Those are the kind of guys we want. in Iowa City. >> Grassi. >> Exactly. >> BA, how much you follow college ball? Did you get your start in college ball? Yeah. Started at Virginia Tech. >> right after playing. >> Yep. Was a graduate assistant. Bought. got hired full Danny Ford left and went. to Clemson. Charlie Pale went was on our. staff also. I was Charlie's graduate. assistant. Then Danny left. I got a. full-time job making $10,000 in a car.

>> Rich, but I thought I hit the [ __ ]. lottery. >> Yeah. Living. >> and uh bought a house, had a baby, and. got fired. >> I've no longer got 10,000 in a car. >> Welcome. Welcome to college football. >> Coach, how long did you coach in college. before you went to the NFL? Oh, 14 15 years. >> Holy [ __ ] So, you're very well verssed. in the college world. >> That's head coach for six years in. college. >> Temple. >> Mhm. >> Great time. See the pictures over there. You guys had some legends on your staff. >> Yes, we did. >> Right. Like I mean there's like big. names over on your staff there at. Temple.

>> If we're to pull that up, will we pull. that up? The picture has like a who's. who. >> Temple. Were you guys great? >> Uh, no. We Well, we did beat everybody. except Penn State in the East. uh had. defense. >> They came close. Paul Palmer, the best. football player I've ever coached. >> Who's on your staff there? >> Paul Davis was my defensive coordinator. who was Suge Jordan's defensive. coordinator for 15 years. Was the head. coach at Mississippi State in ' 61 and. 63 and he ran the split tackle six and I. wanted everybody started going to trips.

in motion and he was actually coach he. was best friends with coach Bryant. He. was on our staff at Alabama the last. year and I I wanted him to teach me that. defense. Then I talked him into coming. to be our defensive coordinator to teach. it to Nick Rapone. And uh then he. retired. I brought in John Develin. who uh signed me to my scholarship at. Virginia Tech. >> Then he hired him. Yeah, that's cool. though. >> Yeah. And uh John stayed with us. Clyde. Christensen. Well, half those guys were. on my staff at Arizona. And.

>> yeah, Clyde, that's what I'm saying. Clyde Christensen, obviously. >> Nick Rapone, John Latina. Um. Ray Zingler who was from pit. >> head coach Hugh Green and those guys out. there. >> and u. >> yeah remember it's from what what year. is this? >> 83 to 88. >> Jesus so long. >> Bill Clay. Yeah. >> And then you your first job in the NFL. is with. >> Kansas City with Marty Shottenheimer. coaching running backs. >> And I had to cut Paul Palmer. That was. hard. That was the hardest day of my.

life. >> Damn. Hey, >> I'm a No. >> Marty did not like little backs. you know, and Paul was the number one. pick of theirs and runner up for the. Heisman and led the nation in rushing. two years at Temple and you know who we. played and uh. >> that was that was a hard day but um. Christian Nicoya B he like big backs we. were like 240 260 250. >> Hell yeah. >> How about you? So. >> Nigerian nightmare. >> Kansas City legend Kansas City to. Pittsburgh. When do you end up in. Pittsburgh? >> Oh not for another three or four.

firings. Cleveland. You were there. >> I was Cleveland and uh went to the. playoffs. Next year got fired. Went to. went to Pittsburgh. 200. two maybe running there. >> What a run you had at Pittsburgh. >> Unreal. >> Tommy Gun. >> That was a good eight years. Yeah. >> Tommy Maddox. >> Mhm. >> [ __ ] Tommy Gun. XFL sensation. >> Oh yeah. >> His birthday today by the way. >> Happy birthday Tommy. >> Happy birthday T. >> Happy birthday Tommy Gun. >> Yeah baby.

>> There's no way he thought that was. happening today. There's someone else's. birthday today, too. I forget. Terry. >> Terry Bradshaw. Another Pittsburgh Steel. legend. >> Terry Bradshaw. You know, he put his. finger on pulling a ball when he threw. it. >> Unbelievable. >> M can sling it now. >> Duck D, you didn't put him as your No, we're not going to get back into that. Joe Montana's top three is doing some. numbers on the internet. >> As I expected. >> As I expected. And at the end of this, you and BA are going to create a segment. that everybody's going to talk about is. when I said two questions into it.

>> You did. And then lo and behold, yeah, pretty big. It's going pretty big out. there. Wasn't your top three, right? And. also the if you were a GM drafting right. now, he's potentially not getting in the. conversation, you know, >> that's an important part of it. >> That's a big part of it. And also Brock. Perie can't be a part of it, >> right? >> Which people don't I don't think they're. seeing that either. >> Well, just because the age thing I think. is a big, you know, pick Josh Allen and. Mahomes, I think they're pretty close. And. >> they are pretty close age. >> Yeah. But there's a birthday leap year. or two. Joe was just getting right puss.

>> He was just wakey wakey. You know, he's. living his life. We got the double. golds. >> Yeah, >> double golds. >> I mean, early on him going, >> "Oh, fuck." All right. >> I think it was in Hawaii, I think. >> So, that's a six-hour difference. >> Early morning. >> Jeez. >> Pretty bright over there. >> What are you guys doing? You guys are. already up, huh? >> Yeah. >> We doing this? >> Yeah. You quiet down a little bit. Maybe. you're talking pretty loud right now. Double golds. I had about 10 of those. last night. My head is pounding. If you.

can maybe All right, BA, we appreciate. you, man. You want to make a putt for. the people? >> Oh, >> a what? >> A putt. >> Oh, I got five or six putters in the. lake right now. >> Next week. >> Yep. Yep. >> All right, BA, we appreciate you. traveling out. We'll see you next week, bro. >> We'll see you next week, baby. >> You're the man. Thank you for doing. this. Hell yeah. You're going to be. great. >> Yeah, >> the BS or no BS with BA is going to get. out of control. Mhm. >> I want to let you know that is going to. become a very that becomes the place. where we can just really put all the.

absurd [ __ ] in there. >> and you have to be the one that kind of. guides us and also you're going to shape. a lot of our thoughts. So yeah, >> just think about that when you're. watching these games. >> Got it. >> We appreciate it in advance. You're. going to make us smarter, make us. better, make us more entertaining. >> Uh it's going to be a lot of fun. I know. that. >> Are you going to wear that ring every. time? >> I don't think so. >> Come on. >> It looks awesome. It actually sounded. awesome, too, cuz it's. >> you can open that song [ __ ] at the top. and then there's like people that live. inside. >> That's right. >> There's like diamonds in there and stuff. that are just living in there and then. you just got to put the top back on. We.

could hear that a couple times that. there was maybe an actual dome on top of. something. It's a beautiful ring. They. did a great job with that. >> Yeah. >> Can you can you open the uh. >> Yeah. >> Is that a Jason? >> Wow. >> That's a our locker room's a diamond. scores. >> You have to show camera a little bit. Yeah. >> Then historic. >> was the first team to ever win at home. >> Then the Rams copied it. >> to the tea. >> Y. >> and they won at home, too. >> Mhm. >> Yeah. That used to be a thing. You. couldn't Nobody would get lucky enough. to have it be there year the year that. they're hosting. >> Never happened.

>> Then the first, >> of course, they only had 30,000. I think. 32,000. >> No, but remember there's 27,000. cardboard cuts out. >> Oh, yeah. Cuz I'm looking for my sister. and all of a sudden I see something. moving and mom was 90 gosh 94 510. She. was there. >> Oh, that's awesome. I'm happy to hear. that happened. >> She's 100 now. >> Legend. >> Happy birthdays. We missed them all. >> She had a hell of a party. I promise. >> Yo, I could imag. >> Yeah. >> Holy [ __ ]. >> That's a long time in the jeans.

>> Oh gosh. Yeah, she's she's amazing. >> So, you're going to live forever? >> I doubt I b like my dad. He He went to. 79. >> We hope not. We hope you're around. forever and we appreciate you. All. right. We'll be back tomorrow. Be a. friend. Tell a friend something nice. It. might change your life. We're in this. thing together. Come on, Tone. Please, Tone. >> He's coming. >> What was that? A good fist bump. >> Whipped his uh headphones out, I think. >> Oh, yeah. Cuz they can get a little. feisty. >> Stuck a little bit.

>> Buccaneers. >> Yeah. [ __ ] ears. The Buccaneers. >> Yep. Mhm. >> All right. Team on me. Anything to say to the team, coach? >> Let's [ __ ] go. >> Here we go. >> Let's go. We'll see you guys tomorrow. Team on three. One, two, three. Team. Goodbye.