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[music] BA day October 28th 2025 this. program begins right now. football [screaming]. yeah I love that ladies and gentlemen. that's a man who coached 47 years of. football he's our super bowl champion. our coach ladies and gentlemen that's. coach Ba [applause]. >> hey good cadence today felt like that. really came from your soul as you're. wearing bright orange and uh maroon for. the Virginia Tech Hokes. I do believe. you're representing here. >> all day today, baby. >> Okay. So, you got the shoes as well. Fox, I don't know if you've showcased. I.

mean, he is swagging as he was walking. in this place, hokeied out of his mind. You guys still in the middle of a. coaching search right now, right? >> Yes, we are. >> And you're trying to find the best out. there. >> The best. >> A lot of jobs open, BA. A lot of jobs. open. >> More to come. >> Yeah, I think so. I believe it a scary. time to be a college football coach if. you're not winning games. And your team. is expecting you to win games and your. boosters are expecting you to win games. one half of the hammer. Dime Cowboys AP. Tone is here. You look sweet. Toxic. table at Boston Connor and at Tai. Schmidt. Great to see you boys. And uh. they've done it, ladies and gentlemen.

The NFL for the first time in 55 years. has done it. More than half a century it. took for this magical moment to take. place. Only one game on the entire slate. was a one-sore game. This the first time. that's happened since 1970. That's 55. years. the next time this will predict. uh predicted to happen 2080. Okay, 2080. So the NFL was saying we had one bad. weekend. >> Okay, in 55 years and I'd like to let. them know going into the night we.

thought there was a chance it was going. to be a blowout, especially with the. Kansas City Chiefs being the Kansas City. Chiefs at this point in time. Now that. was an ugly game. I I believe it was. like the first five out of the six uh. possessions was a turnover of some sort, either an interception or on Dons. Patrick Mahomes was throwing. interceptions and Marcus Mario said, "Don't you worry about I'll do one of. those as well." And Pat was like, "Wait, I got more out here." Now, Travis Kelce. was bumbling, fumbling earlier. They had. real shite game. I I mean, it was a shy. game taking place on that football. field. And then all of a sudden, boom, the Kansas City Chiefs start to do what. Kansas City Chiefs start doing. And then.

Travis Kelce starts going absolutely. absurd or she rice gets in the end zone. And inevitably, the Kansas City Chiefs. win 28-7 in a game that was not very. thrilling. But it is nice to know that. these Chiefs is all the way back. The. Chiefs are going to be who we thought. they were going to be coming into this. season. The Chiefs are who they have. been over the last few years. Travis. Kelce is getting younger. I saw him in. the open field trying little twosteps on. people and obviously he's making some. magic, but with what Patrick Mahomes is. able to do on any given football field. at any given moment. We all understand. how good the Chiefs could be. Now.

they're playing like it. So shout to the. Chiefs being all the way back and maybe. even better. Maybe even better than. ever. Now they were the public favorite. last night, I do believe, for 70% of the. money. So drop that one down for the. public getting a win over the sports. book. any other numbers hit in that. particular game, Tone? >> Uh, yeah. So, more importantly on the on. the week, favorites went 11 and two. against the spread, which is the best. record for favorites against the spread. in the last 40 years. So, yes, they were. shite games mostly because all the. favorites were blowing everybody out. So, that'll happen once every 50 years,

once every 40 years. We're in for some. more good football. >> They is who we thought they is is what. happened this weekend when it came to. gambling. Kansas City has now outscored. its opponent by 83 points, okay, this. season. That's the greatest margin. through eight games since 2020. And we. all remember 2020. >> Oh, what a team. >> Wow. Yeah. A time team. Yeah. Team. Yeah. Chiefs average margin of victory. in 2025 19 and 2024. 7.1. So they're. winning a little bit more decisively. Coach Ba, what are you seeing from this. Chiefs team now versus maybe what they. were last year or in years past whenever.

they were playing a different style? Is. this team only going to get better? And. is this the Chiefs that we've come to. fear rest of the league? >> Yeah, I think so. They're getting. better. They're getting healthier. Receive. Price obviously makes a big. difference in that offense, but their. defense is starting to play like Chiefs. defense. They ended up stopping the run. They're getting after the quarterback. and uh man, it's tough to win an. arrowhead. What a great place to play. football. I coached there for four years. and went in there as a visitor. Was the. best crowd ever. >> Coldest. Do you remember you were he was. uh he was uh interim head coach whenever. Chuck Pagano was battling through.

leukemia and BA was a coach. One of our. final I think our last game of the. season was at Kansas City. Kansas City. was already out. It was freezing ass. cold. I I mean freezing ass cold. I. believe the halftime speech was uh let's. get a win and get the [ __ ] out of here. and go get some more. [laughter] I. believe was Yeah, it's exactly That was. exactly the speech that he gave and it. was like they were still filled up. though. It was freezing ass cold. They. had no chance. Place was still filled. up. These Chiefs fans deserve this. And. uh it seems like there's more trophies. heading to the home of the.

>> cheese. Now, yesterday I was pretty vocal about. the scheduling of certain things. >> Yes, you were. >> Okay. >> It is football season. >> Mhm. >> It's a Monday night. That's Monday night football time. Why. do we have the World Series happening. that I'm actually interested in? Okay. I'm actually interested in this year for. Maybe a few others in the past. I've. certainly been interested as we got some. static picking up here on the set there,

but I've certainly been more interested. in this one. Mostly because what show. and the boys have been doing have been. absolutely electrifying. And then the. Blue Jays, this team from Toronto, a. bunch of dogs. I mean, the way they're. built literally physically watching them. play baseball, it's like I love this. team. Them going against Monday Night. Football, especially with the Chiefs. playing, I'm like, whoa, whoa, why are. we doing that? Thank god they were. happening last night. I mean, that. quickly became a World Series night for. me on the TV, which I would never like. to admit publicly. And is then what I. found out when I woke up this morning,

uh, >> two hours after the game ended, is when. [laughter] I woke up, this thing was an. instant classic, a record-breaker tie. last night was historic in the World. Series. What took place? >> Yeah, without a doubt. And, you know, it's funny you mentioned that because I. think that was actually the MLB's plan. was, hey, all these people who are going. to want to watch Monday Night Football, we're going to go ahead and just play. two games. uh not to bury the lead. there, but if you did watch the entirety. of Monday Night Football, you could have. still switched over to Dodgers Blue Jays. and watched an entire nine-inninging. baseball game. It was absolutely.

unbelievable. Starting in the third. inning, you I mean, you mentioned him. Show is the you you just can't pitch to. this guy. Max Scherzer, one of the best. big game pitchers of all time, and Shi. takes him yard to give the Dodgers a two. nothing lead. I mean, early on is just. okay, we we get it. This is going to be. kind of wacky. And then you mentioned. it, the guys, the way they're built in. Toronto, the wobble body. Alejandro. Kirk, he just I mean it does. It looks. like I was going to be a lazy pop fly. Boom. Home run to straightaway center. Blue Jays take.

>> I love him by the way. He might be my. favorite baseball player outside of Paul. SK and show Otoni. That guy might be my. favorite baseball player. >> So also a little tidbit on him. He got. signed initially to the Blue Jays for. $15,000. They saw him in Mexico at some. like open workout 5'8 guy catcher. obviously built the way he he was, he. accepted like a $15,000. signing bonus and that's what got him. into the mix. >> Okay, so I love him even more. Got it. Okay, that makes sense from what I can. So he's he's unbelievable. >> Good eye by me. I feel like just eyeing.

him. I could see this guy's got a good. story. I think I like him. Didn't even. know it was like, hey, found out of. nowhere 5'8. There's no way he's. supposed to be in the MLB. There's no. way he's supposed to be hitting bombs in. a World Series. That guy's a dog. >> Exactly. He's unbelievable. And fast. forward to the bottom of the fifth. inning. Freddy Freeman after Shi Otane. doubles. Freddy Freeman. This guy's. about as clutch as they come. He rips. one down the line and Show gets in there. to not the game up at 44. I mean, this. it was just it was like this all night. Just back and forth, back and forth, back and forth. Then we go to the top of.

the seventh. Bo Bashette, who is a guy. who has been hurt. He's one of their. best players. He gets in and rips one. down the line. Vlatty chugging along and. he's had a couple unbelievable slides. Boom. Picture perfect. tag home. I don't remember if they have. the replay on here, but he basically he. slides in and kind of like alters his. body cuz he can tell that the tag is. going to be coming in. It was absolutely. unbelievable. So, here here we are. You. know, I mean, you're thinking at this. point, okay, this this one might be. over. Blue Jays got all the momentum.

Yeah, exactly. Uh 54 once again. Why. they pitching this guy? [laughter]. Show each one right down the middle. Oppo shot pretty much still still the, you know, dead center. 55 ties the game. up and then we go to the top of the. ninth. Okay, this is a very un, you. know, in a game of a lot of homers. Unsung moment here. This is why defense. really matters in baseball. Dalton Vo. rips one down line. Freddy Freeman, who's very reliable, goes off his glove. But Tommy Edmund has a heady play, corrals the ball, and then boom,

>> he gets Isaiah Ker Falefa at third base. to I mean that that's huge. You know, you they say a lot of times in baseball, you can't make the second or the third. out at third base. Uh because they got. the big bats coming up and boom, that's. a runner that's no longer in scoring. position. And then so we kind of stayed. pat for a little bit. We go all the way. That thing says. >> exactly bottom of the 14th in. >> place still packed. >> Play still packed. Will Smith and and. everyone in Dodger Stadium thought they. had it. He he kind of pimps it a little. bit. [laughter].

Couple feature. I mean, it doesn't get. much closer than that. So that's the. 14th inning. Okay, let's fast forward to. the top of the 18th. >> What time is this Eastern? >> Uh Eastern, this was probably about. 2:30, 2:35. >> Okay, so this 11:30, 11:35 Pacific time, correct? Which we got to think about. because this actually ends up paying off. for him because if this is Eastern time. playing, you're talking early morning, maybe not as many people want to stay. in. So. >> yeah, exactly. But still packed in the. top of the 18th. And then another very. unsung guy for the Dodgers, Will Klene,

strikes out Tyler Heinman. At this. point, like Tyler Heinman was the last. guy on the bench for the Blue Jays. He. was the last player who could play in. the game, but because it goes on so. long, like they have no That was his. third at bat. He strikes out and then. again this, you know, just in a a group. of a lot of clutch guys. Freddy Freeman. in the bottom of the 18th, full count. He goes yard. Walk-off homer to center. The blue uh Blue Jays just boy hard to. stomach that one. Dodgers win 6-5. They.

take a 2-1 series lead and they play. again tonight at 8:00 p.m. >> Not just played tonight. Okay. Obviously. history there. And Freddy Freeman's is. this his last year? No. >> No. >> Kershaw's last year. >> Correct. He pitched last night as well. He got a big out uh in extra innings. >> Okay. So Freddy Freeman, we met him at. the Allar. He's so cool. He is very. cool. Obviously bottom of the 18th. hitting a dinger center field has to. feel immaculate. They got to turn around. now. They got a game tonight and show. Otani's pitching. Last night show was on. base how many times? >> Uh nine times. So he in his first four.

at bats through the what seventh inning. Uh he was four for four with four extra. base hits including two homers. From. that point on, the entire second game. they played, he got intentionally walked. four times and then his fifth at bat. very late. It wasn't an intentional. walk, but they just pitched around him. didn't give him any compet. So, like. they decided after the first game they. played, we're not pitching to this guy. again. And it was the right move cuz. every time they pitched to him, he. killed him. >> Yeah. So, Showi gets on base nine times. last night. >> Correct. >> Okay. Hits couple dingers, ties it up,

has a let's go, >> which is reminiscent in that uh that's. something in baseball. doing this thing for the Dodgers. Yeah. Show has a little bit of one of those. things while he's going to second base. whenever he ties it up 55 at the end of. this whole thing. But whenever you think. about him getting on base nine times and. then tonight he's starting pitcher. >> I mean, this guy is special, too. This. guy is absolutely outrageous. This is. the greatest baseball player of all. time. >> Yeah, bar none. Not even not even not. even remotely close. >> Like right now, people are going to say,

"Well, if he does it for 10 years, >> I He's won what? Three MVPs in a row. He's won a World Series." Like, no. I I. I don't even think I really don't think. there's an argument to be made anymore. And that's hard for me to say cuz I'm a. big-time Yankees fan and I think Aaron. Judge is, you know, one of the best. hitters on the planet. It's not even. close how much better this guy is than. everybody else. >> Here's some Hembo stats on Show Otani. who's not only grown the game obviously. here, but internationally in a huge way. I can't even imagine what the Japan. numbers are going to be for that. particular game, especially with sleep. cycles. There's two baseball games back.

to back. They could have caught it at. any time over there. Uh he's first in. MLB history to reach base nine times in. a postseason game. first in MLB history. with three multi- home run games in a. single postseason. Intentionally walked. a ninth, 11th, 13th, and 15th. Four. pitch in uh 17th. Show has reached base. in 10 straight plate appearances, single. to end memo record for consecutive PA. >> Yeah. Play appearances. >> Uh reaching in a single World Series, so. everything's back. And oh yeah, he's. starting pitcher tonight for the Los. Angeles Dodgers. And when you think.

about his pitching, this I did a deep. dive. Go. >> you were there with me. >> I was with you, baby. I I took a deep. dive in this thing. You know, he he can. move that thing in all the directions. >> Oh, >> he can take that ball a little bit north. there. He's got a force there. Okay, that rises about 18 inch. He can take. that thing southward curve ball. Guess. what? That goes about 18 in. You do some. math. That's 36 in vertical movement. Okay, that's outrageous, is it not? And. then let's talk about the horizontal, the east, west, if you will. He's got a. sinker in a splitter that go more than. 30 ines in different uh different.

directions. He's 30 by 36, this guy in. the amount of movement. So, this ain't. just some ass pitcher. This guy's a guy. He's got a splitter. He's got a sinker. He's got a sweeper. He's got a fast. ball. I mean, he's got all the pitches. out there. And uh he's also getting on. base nine different times. So, today, I. mean, just 24-hour period here for Show. could be what? One of the most special. in the history uh of baseball, I'd. assume, is how this will be talked. about. >> Yeah. I mean, he's just stacking them up. at this point after his last, you know, last outing as a pitcher, striking out. 10 guys in six innings and hitting three.

homers. I mean, it just it's it's. ridiculous. And going into tonight's. game, like the big thing now, too, is. both teams used everybody in the. bullpen. Every guy that was available. had to pitch last night. You have some. guys who are typically used to throwing. maybe one one inning and, you know, like. a handful of pitches. Like they had guys. who had to throw 40 pitches last night. just cuz they by out of necessity. If. show has his best stuff, that that. eliminates the need for them to go to. the bullpen. Like you're you're just. looking at the starters. And while I've.

kind of always said he's unbelievable. I. I his hitting though is is far superior. to his pitching when he's on he's still. one of the best guys in baseball. So if. he can give them six innings and. eliminate, you know, the bullpen like. that it is just such a massive. advantage. Like it it'll be tough. But. for the Blue Jays losing that game last. night, it might just be like how how. much do you have left? Cuz it's just. it's a kitchen sink game tonight. Like. you just have to get lucky and throw. everything and hope that you get the. show early. >> Yeah. So, best baseball player ever. Is. there an argument to be made that he's.

just the best athlete of all time across. all sports? >> I mean, that's going to become a. conversation, is it not? How long can he. do this? I guess everybody is expecting. him not to be able to do this for that. long. Is he going to be able to do this. for the foreseeable future? Because I. think my research told me, too, that. maybe, you know, when he get to the. Dodgers, the way they kind of develop. pitch, he might just be only getting. better and better as a pitcher, just. like as people kind of get older, especially in the LA Dodgers, uh, kind. of system. And then, I haven't even. talked about this. He's able to do. things that a lot of other people are. able to do. He throws a sinker out of a. high slot. So, so optically for the.

hitter, I mean, that's just a completely. different ball game. He's doing things. people haven't seen before. So, greatest. athlete of all time is certainly a. fascinating question. Like, how long. does he have to do it for? I think is. all anybody would use for the judge. Like, that is all the argument in my. eyes. I love the guy. Let's just pull. literally rush more of everything. immediately. But as soon as I heard that. this guy could throw the ball 100 miles. an hour accurately and 100 miles an hour. off the bat, what was that like three. years ago when he was with the uh the. Angels or whatever, it's like this guy's. greatest baseball player of all time. Baseball people at the time rightfully.

so saying let's let's hold let's see. Yeah, let's hold the horses here. Now. he's proven BA. When you think about. this type of competitor, this type of. athlete, what is it? Do you think it's. his ment? Obviously, he's physically. gifted like hell, but his mentality is. just one of those different ones that. the the great have you? >> Oh, I don't think there's any doubt, but. you got to throw in 50 stolen bases. >> Yeah. Oh, yeah. It's just crazy for a. pitcher, a hitter, and 50 stolen bases. I mean, that's the one that just puts. him over the top for me. >> What do you think his mentality is, though? Do you think he's been locked in. like this since he was a kid? Is he just. born? >> Everything Everything I hear about him,

he is just literally ultra focused, takes care of his body like nobody else, can do all these things, and just every. single day taking care of himself, getting ready to go. >> So, Payton and Tom obviously are at a. different level. Do you think these guys. are born this way? Women too, as well, Serena. Obviously, I don't want to take. anything away from any of the greatest. female athletes of all time, but I think. they're born that way. Don't you think? Like, when I saw Pton, I was like, "This. guy's an alien." Like, his mentality is. an alien. Like, I consider myself a. rather competitive person. I think I. have a good work ethic. I think I'm able. to lock in. Then you see like an actual.

robot happened next year and you're. like, "Oh my god, there's levels to this. entire thing." And then Tom Brady, obviously, they talk about that as the. same. Michael Jordan, Kobe, you talk. about LeBron, these guys that Wayne. Gretzky, I think, is is even another. everybody at the top is like born that. way. Do you think that can be coached or. you think it's just like a special trait. that only some people have? >> Well, I think they have the trait. There. has to be some really good hands put on. them somewhere along the line to get. them to in the right direction. You. know, all those Tom Payeyton, those guys. had great college quarterback coaches. and and coaches. I think Showi and.

everybody else, the Dodgers pitching. system we talked about, he's just going. to get better. >> better and better. He's only going to. get better. I think that is crazy to. think about. And his stroke isn't going. anywhere. That stroke is unbelievable. Wasn't going anywhere. He didn't be that. tall and that fast. >> Exactly. And that would be the biggest. thing in terms of like how long can he. do this is, you know, the only times. he's really had any like injury issues. Yeah. It looked like to be uh some sort. of uh you know, attendant that the. Dodgers had that you know, sometimes you.

get in the wrong spot there and you got. to scramble. >> So that is that person delivering beers. there on the field? [laughter]. >> I a concession guy. Definitely. Can. >> we go back to that? >> Definitely shouldn't be out there. I. just assumed it was like uh [laughter]. >> go back. >> I don't know who the hell that is. >> Got a chair down there. >> So yeah, the chair the ball boy jumped. over into the stands. >> Yeah. I wonder if that's just like a. security attendant to make sure people. aren't like getting on the field and. everything. >> Yeah. I mean, he should have known show. he's off the bat, though. There's a. chance that thing's coming right out. >> He's probably thinking he's going,

"Yard, I'm I'm good.". >> Hell of a job away. >> Yeah. And I grabbing that chair, too. Full sprint and staying away from the. ball. Pretty impressive. If that hits. him in this game that goes 18 innings or. whatever, there'd be so many. Oh, they. got guys either on because imagine it. hits him goes different. He gets a. triple or something or like uh something. like maybe guy falls on ball. Oh my god. Passes out, gets tired, falls on top of. ball. I mean, that could have been. obviously chaotic. Shout out to that guy. getting it figured out. But congrats to. the Dodgers. So, this is going to feed. the uh they spend more money everybody. That's why they're better than everybody. narrative.

>> I mean, I suppose. Like it's when when. you're kind of getting single-handedly. beat by one guy. Like show is just. otherworldly. He's a he's amazing. And. like you know, yeah, they paid a. shitload of money for him, but like. there are other teams that definitely. could have got him. We we talked about. it a little bit earlier. We'll we'll see. if they win the World Series handedly. And again, the amount of momentum that. swings to them after a game like that, it's tough to imagine that the Blue Jays. are just going to have enough left to. get back. But like if they get one of. like a Paul Skins or a Ter Scooble who. people are saying if the Dodgers win the.

World Series and then sign one of the. best players in baseball instantly like. that will be when people are like all. right we can't do this. >> I heard Detroit offered Scooble Scoo. pennies on the dollar. >> Yeah. Offer him 20 bucks or something. Foxy. >> I need a confirmed source to tell me. this. I don't believe it. I will not. believe it until I know it's coming out. of Jet Pass's mouth because that's. absolutely absurd. And I'll tell you. what, senior pizza pizza little Caesar's. owner Illage would have paid him right. away. So I don't like this. His son. better get going here. >> Okay. I like that you're calling out.

ownership and uh holding people. accountable even though you don't know. if it's true or not. And that that. that's that's our show's difference. >> That [laughter] is our show's that is. our show's difference in its entirety. But you talk about like uh skins going. over there or something like that. They're just buying the best team, which. I would like to let people know. >> That is why I was a fan of the Yankees. As a guy who grew up in Pittsburgh, it's. like they're just buying the best team. up there. Is everybody allowed to do. that? Yeah. >> Well, >> I want So, I won't go for the team. I. would like my happiness in this. particular sport to reside upon the.

people that are trying to spend more. money than everybody else to win. Baseball people tell me I'm a [ __ ]. fan. I agree. Never played. This is just. me watching playoffs. >> The deferment thing is what really. bothers people. >> Oh. Paying him 15 years later. >> Yeah. Joe Hayes salary this year is $1.2. million because they're giving. [laughter] him $400 million in tax. >> So salary cap gymnastics is coming over. to MLB. Uh you were about to say. something. >> I was going to say just in terms of. spending money, the Dodgers are in. second with 321 million this year for. their payroll. The Blue Jays are in.

fifth with 239 million for their payroll. this year. So both teams spend and they. made it. >> Who's number one? >> Uh the New York Mets. >> They didn't make the playoffs. They. didn't. So that would be the argument. the Dodgers would say. >> Correct. And this is just like the. Philadelphia Eagles saying if tush push. so easy, why don't everybody do it? That. is what the Dodgers will say about the. New York Mets. And we'll talk about the. tush push in a matter of moments. You. know, the dimes dive was really. something that kind of captivated the. entire NFL. This guy, you know, he's in. New York, didn't pan out. Everybody. threw a lot of shots. Hey, he goes to. Minnesota. He's a free agent. Minnesota.

wants to keep him there. The Colts. obviously need a quarterback. He'll come. into a quarterback competition. How's. everybody feel about it? No. No, we. don't want it. He's gonna win the. quarterback competition pretty handily. How does everybody feel about it? Oh, we. still don't know. We need a full change. Then he goes in. What? Best game in. football. Ladies and gentlemen, the. quarterback of the Indianapolis Colts, Danny Dimes. [applause]. >> What's up, Bliss? How we doing? >> Hey, congrats on another win. Okay, you. didn't do [ __ ] but congrats on another. win. >> Yeah, [laughter]. >> appreciate it. Appreciate it. Appreciate. it. >> Uh, I know it's middle of season. We got.

a lot of football left. I know that's. what you're gonna say, but at this. moment with where you're sitting and how. you guys have performed, uh I could you. have imagined this whenever you got here. in the offseason, the team being this. good. I think when I sat down with you. for dinner uh with Mr. Berg, you said, "Hey, we got a lot of good guys." You. like the roster immediately. Did you see. this potentially being the case? And why. has it worked out so good, do you think, at this point? >> Uh I mean, it's tough to say, you know, that that we were uh you know, exactly. how it's going to work out. I think.

people say, you know, we think we're. good, but no one, you never really know. until you get out there and start. playing. But, um, you know, I did. I. mean, I I honestly did in the spring. You look around, you're like, wow, he's. really good and he's really good and, uh, the offensive line's really good and. coaches are good. You're like, you know, we we we should be we should be pretty. good. And, um, I you know, we we've. played well and and, uh, things have. gone well, but you but you never really. know, I guess, until you get on the. field. >> I appreciate you having my jersey in. your bedroom there. Uh, it's very cool. of [laughter] you. Yeah, that's very.

very nice of you putting me up there. next to the boss man. It's an honor. We're very thankful you're an. Indianapolis Colt. We're also very. thankful that Jonathan Taylor is an. Indianapolis Colt. Can you tell me about. him and the offensive line and what this. offense is doing right now? Because. obviously we've seen Jonathan Taylor. have massive success in the past, but. right now he's ready to break history, it seems like. What's happening in that. area of your offense and why do you. think it's all taking place? Yeah, I mean I think uh I think the guys. up front for one, you know, are are. doing an incredible job in the run game.

in the pass game too, but in the in the. run game opening up holes and then um I. don't I mean he hits it. He he goes and. and uh the three or four yard runs or or. seven or eight yard runs and then um you. know he's got the he's got the the uh. the home run in him too. That 80 yard. the other day was incredible. I don't. know how he stayed in bounds on the. sideline, uh, hit it and and rolled, but. um, yeah, I mean, he he's, uh, playing. un unbelievable right now. I know. everybody, you know, if you watch the. game, it's, uh, it's pretty hard to.

miss. He's, uh, he's playing. unbelievable right now. >> Yeah, you know, being there in person, it's a lot more fun than it has been in. the past. I've told you that a couple. different times. Like, man, I am. thankful to be a season ticket holder. this year. It has been a blast in the. stadium. One of my favorite things is, you know, what they decided to do during. the breaks up on the jumbotron. Celebrity lookalike happened this past. weekend. And uh I'll tell you what, I. thought you handled the moment greatly. Indiana Jones, any place does this. noise, please? [cheering].

[applause and cheering]. Okay. You saw it? Okay. I I saw you. fighting back a little blush as I was. watching in real life and then it seemed. like you looked at yourself. You thought. to yourself, "Oh, stay focused. Stay. locked." This is very This like second. quarter, I think. This is still very. much in the middle of the game. How was. this moment? Did you see yourself? And. what was your immediate reaction? Like, oh [ __ ] look busy. Is that is that Did.

I nail it? >> Pretty much. Yeah. I mean, I I saw it. But I tried to play it off like I didn't. see it, but I I saw it and and you know. that's always the moment like you know. the camera's on you, everybody's looking. at you. Act like you're act like you're. doing something you you'd be doing if. you didn't know. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm working out. I'm. working out. Yeah. Quarterback. Let me. warm up my arm. Yeah. What else? That's. uh How has it been though, dude? You're. a hero here. You are a hero here. I. texted you that the uh maybe two weeks. ago like, "Hey, Daniel Jones could be. governor of Indiana right now. Could be.

mayor of the city. could literally be. anything. How is it being like, you. know, beloved by your fan? Like this. place loves you. Can you feel that? How. has it been experiencing that? And uh do. you ever talk about it with the team. about how much the city has rallied and. the state has rallied around the squad? >> Uh you can Yeah, I mean you can. definitely sense it. I think uh just how. you know how how energetic the city is. for it and and uh the support we have uh. here has been it's been a lot of fun. Um, I, you know, I've really enjoyed.

being here and and being uh, you know, with this team, but yeah, like you said, the city, I think the people here are. are awesome. You know, we've talked. about it's a sports town and and people. here love the Colts, love the Pacers, love the Fever, love sports. So, um, it's been fun to fun to feel that for. sure. >> Yeah. Well, we're lucky you're here, brother. We're enjoying the hell out of. the run, honestly. And that game against. the Titans, I don't know if you know. this, Colts favored by 14 and a half or. whatever. Colts fans scared to death. It's like, oh no, here we go. Because we. we have like, you know, PTSD of times.

where like, okay, the team isn't like. all the way ready to go. Very good team, but not like completely locked in. It's. been awesome to watch you guys continue. to grow through this entire journey. BA. has a question for you, Danny. >> Yeah, Dan, I saw you up close and. personal, your first win down in Tampa, and uh now what flip what what switch. flipped the switch for you? Is it. coaching system, offensive line? because. you are playing the best football I've. ever seen you play. >> Appreciate it. Appreciate it, coach. Um, I mean, I think it's I think it's all.

those things. I think, um, you know, football. um, you know, people want to make it. about one guy or one thing or one play, but I think the reality is it's it's. everything kind of working together and. everybody um, everybody doing what. they're supposed to. It's a boring, you. know, kind of cliche take, but I I. honestly think that's that's how it. works. And, uh, offensive lines played. incredible. Um, I think the the coach. the scheme I think the game planning and. and the scheme we have week in and week. out. Um, you know, is is really really.

good. I mean, you know, guys are guys. are open, receivers getting open, and. then uh Jonathan Taylor's doing an. incredible job. So, I I mean, I think. just everything's kind of working. together and and we know we still got. stuff to clean up, but um I think that's. when um you know, that's when that's. when guys are at their best is when. everyone's kind of kind of doing their. job. >> Your wide receivers are special, too. It's like uh you know they were talking. about with the Packers and I think they. were talking about with the Bills. It's. like well who's the number one? There. needs to be a number one. It's like we. got dudes all over the place. Like you. got dudes all over and none of them.

seemingly diva primadana asking. expecting just everybody goes for it. Like this catch is one of the nastiest. catches of all time. I mean. >> incredible catch. >> pass interference for sure. >> Did you know he caught it? You thought. it was just PI or do you know he caught. it immediately? I didn't know he caught. it, but I didn't see the ball come up. Like, usually you see the ball on the. ground, and I was like, that ball didn't. hit the ground. Did he catch that ball? Like, I don't think people realize how. hard of a catch that was. Like, he he's. fighting off the defender. He pins it. with one hand and the defender's arm in.

there. I mean, that's an incredible, incredible catch. >> Yeah, definitely pass interference. I. mean, no questions asked. Everybody in. there just thought PI, okay, we got. first down at the one. I think people. legitimately were like, "All right, that. play's over. Is Pitman okay? That's. good." And then there's like a delayed. roar and he just stands up with the. ball. It's like what? How the hell did. you do that? And Pitman makes those. plays all the time. Josh Dons and you. getting on the same page. Obviously Alec. Pierce, I've learned of him even more. over the last couple weeks. Heard great. things coming out of the Halloween party. about Alec Pierce. So I am all bored.

Alec Pierce being an absolute dog for. the squad as well. And then you guys. have a tight end. Okay. And I don't know. where this Sasquatch, you know, came. from in this entirety, but what an. animal. Go ahead, Ty. >> Yeah, Danny, I think going back to like. the draft process and then the draft. especially, like we were all shocked. that Tyler Warren fell to where he did. just falling right into you guys' laps. Uh, at what point did you know like, oh. wow, like this this guy's different. He. might be special. And obviously, you. know, Pat talked about how many weapons. you have and everything's working. But.

how nice is it having a safety valve. like this guy where you can just dump it. down to him and he's liable to you know. go 40 yards for a touchdown or pick up a. third uh you know a long conversion on. third down. Like how impressed have you. been with Tyler Warren? >> Yeah, I've been extremely impressed with. him. I think when he got here in the. spring I mean you could sense just like. his savviness and and feel for for. getting open and just kind of being an. instinctive football player. But then, you know, getting on the field and and. playing with him and and live action, you know, a lot of these plays that I.

think um he makes just look easy where. he's he knows where everybody is. He. makes a tough catch. He um you know, makes a cut and gets an extra seven or. eight yards. Like I mean, he's just like. does he does the the like instinctive. thing that you would hope someone does. really naturally, I feel like. And and. um I don't know, he's just he's he's. tough as you know, tough as [ __ ] He's a. real real good football player. >> Yes, his head we think is potentially. the densest and the thickest that.

there's ever been made cuz we saw we saw. him against Notre Dame hit his head off. the ground right in front of us. >> He he put a dent in the ground and it. was frozen. His head go boom and he just. hopped right back. We thought he was. dead. >> I still get headaches from it. >> Yeah, I actually I just got a headache. thinking about that. I mean, his head, we saw it in person, so it was like, "Oh. my god." And it was frozen and he just. hopped right back up, tossed the ball. Was like. >> I think he got a carry on the next play. >> Yeah, they he lined up on I think he did. a dive. I think he did a tush push.

immediately afterwards. Just got punched. in the head. The guy's an absolute. animal. You got a lot of them out there. now. How can you manage an offense that. has all these different weapons? How can. you create space for everybody to be. able to get the rock? How can you just. dominate seemingly everybody? Well, there's a coach that we got that was. brought in to be the head coach because. he was an offensive guru. Seems like you. and him have hit it off well. Go ahead, Tone. >> Yeah, Mr. Jones, uh, we tal you were. talking about the game plan and the. scheme earlier. Trying to be respectful. Okay. Um, and I wanted to ask about how.

your relationship with Shane Styen has. been since you came over to the Colts. and then how it is now and how more. collaborative and how much more insight. you have into the game plan each week. And I noticed you guys haven't had a buy. yet. So, if you wanted to sit out this. upcoming weekend, just get like an early. little rest, that's something you can. think about doing as well. >> No, no, no. This is a big one. This is a. big one this week. >> Yeah. Don't listen to him, D. Don't. listen to him. That's a steal. >> That's Mr. Jones, by the way. Have a. little respect. >> Mr. Jones and me. Go ahead, Danny. Sorry. about track. Um,

>> thank you. >> Yeah, it's been fun working with Shane. Um, you know, I think uh you know, in. the offseason and kind of through. training camp, you're not doing as much. game planning. you're just kind of. calling plays and and um you know trying. to execute putting in the offense for. the most part. But once we've gotten. into into uh the season and kind of as. the weeks have gone, you know, I think. just the the process throughout the week. has been been really good for me and and. the time you know we spend meeting, watching tape, uh kind of hearing from.

him. you know, he's real detailed on how. he expects to call the game, how he. wants me to uh to kind of play the game, certain situations, where we are on the. field, down in distance, uh kind of. what's been happening, and and you know, he he's very very detailed, has all. that, you know, stuff planned out and. kind of in his head and and that stuff. he communicates with me. And I think. just, you know, that helps me. Um, you. know, especially as we get to like. Friday and Saturday and you're watching, you know, the last little bit of tape. and you're reminding receivers certain.

little things here and there. I think. that communication has been um has been. really helpful for me. >> Uh, tell me about what he's saying to. you or calling to you uh through the. headset for every play because we hear. him miked up. And is he saying to you. the same thing he's saying Mike? Oh, look at this. This is going to be a. touchdown. Okay, we're going to run. Okay, look. We've seen him miked up. every play. I don't know if you know how. confident he is in every single play you. guys run. Every single one. Oh, look at. this. Look at this. This is going to be. a Look at this. This could be a touch. What about score this thing? Watch this. thing. Yep. Yep. Touchdown. Yep.

>> Is that what he's calling plays? >> Give me that in the headset as much. But. he will like when we're talking about. something on the sideline, it'll be. like, "All right, I'm going to call this. one. It'll probably go for 20 and then. when we get the ball on the 20, [laughter] we'll probably call this one. We'll probably score there. But if we. don't score, like we'll call this play. and then and then we'll definitely. score." So, it's all it's all very very. positive. Every play is going to be 15. 20 yarder and then the next one's going. to be 15 20 yard. >> That's awesome. Is that how you think is. that how you have uh thought about the.

game before? Like has this been a nice. change of pace almost with how he kind. of talks about it to you? Do you feel. like you two kind of gel well when it. comes to that perspective? >> Yeah, I mean I honestly I I haven't uh I. probably haven't had that positive of a. mindset myself, but um it's helpful. I. mean, when when you have that much. confidence and that much um optimism, belief, I think that that helps me. It. helps the whole team, I think, and. everybody can sense that. >> All right, we're going to do this. Probably pick up 1520 here. It might. score. Honestly, I don't even know if we.

need this next play. And then we'll do. this. I love that. That's what I'm. talking about. It was always there. It. was always there. He always dressed so. cool on the sideline. He always looked. so cool on the sideline. Every time I. talked to him, it seemed great. But then. it just wasn't going as well. Gardenner. mention we always make the playoffs. Oh, we don't make the playoffs. It's like. he's been through it too a lot. So, for. him to be as positive as he is, I think. he's a real testament of his mental. resilience. And we're lucky to have you. both. And uh nope, not even going to say. it. >> We want you to sign a 10-year contract.

here. Let's let's uh I'm not going to do. any public negotiating on on behalf of. the big three. Okay. The big three. certainly understand that, but we are. very lucky to have you both in our city. You you need to know that. Go ahead, com. man. >> Yeah. Some good negotiating for you. dimes will be the thousands of kids. dressing up as you on Halloween on. Friday across Indiana. But true. >> What about the relationship with the O. line? Have you been taking him to. dinners? Has JT been helping him out a. little bit? And what is Quinton Nelson. like as a leader? Because it feels as. though all of us have kind of seen a.

different Quinton Nelson that we, you. know, have grown accustomed to. Um, with. the departure of Ryan Kelly and Will. Fry, he seems to be taking more of a. vocal role this year. Yeah, he's a he's a stud. Um, for sure. Uh, I haven't I haven't taken him to. dinner yet. We do a little Monday night. football. Last night we had the the. Halloween party, but we got uh. >> Oh, really? What was attendance? What. was attendance? What was attendance. >> percentage? >> Pretty strong. I I don't know. I wasn't. I wasn't uh I wasn't marking everybody. It's pretty strong, though. I'd say I'd.

say pretty much everybody was there. >> Yeah, I like that. These are all good. things. >> Yeah. You guys are drinking water at. these things, obviously. A lot of water. and maybe some. >> water. some some Gatorades and uh. >> Okay, so we do little mixed drinks and. beers. Okay, I like that. That's what I. just heard there. We got waters and and. Gatorades. Got it. I like that. This is. good. This is good for team BA. This is. good. >> Blue Gatorade and Vodka is perfect. >> Okay. [laughter]. >> Okay. Sorry. Go ahead. Back to you, Dime. Sorry about it. Talk about the O. line. >> No, Quinton uh Quinton's a stud and and. and yeah, the leadership uh he has in.

that room and how how they all kind of. work together. Um you know, I think uh I. think that that goes a long way. I mean, Quinton, all those guys have an. extremely high standard for for. themselves and the group. And um Quinton. will let you know, Quinton will let you. know if it's not, you know, if it's not. good enough or if someone's not uh, you. know, doing doing the right thing. He. he's pretty quick to to let someone know. and hold everybody accountable and he. holds, you know, holds himself. accountable first and I think that that. goes a long way with with the O line, goes a long way with the whole team, I.

think. Um, so yeah, it means a lot. >> You guys got a special group, man. It's. been fun to watch you guys. Let's talk. about the defense. Obviously, we have to. uh because Lou an I mean, you didn't. know what it was like before Lou got. there. You didn't know what it was like. before Cam Binhams got there, who is. seemingly beloved by everybody. Moody. should be back here soon after the. pregame. Hey, let's [ __ ] watch what. we're doing pregame. Okay. I I I don't. know. You guys, we need to get better at. that going forward. But can you tell me. about the defensive side of the ball and. the vibes and energy over there? because. obviously if we want to go where we want.

to go, defense going to have to win. games and uh feels like we have the guys. to do it. Do you agree with that? >> For sure. Yeah. Yeah. I think they've. been playing playing at a really high. level. Uh you know, Lou does a does a. great job. He's a smart guy, smart. coach. The scheme uh that that they run. and week in and week out the game plan. stuff they have is is uh is good. We see. it a little bit in practice. we do a. period against the defense um Thursdays. and and there's always some funky stuff. in there. So, he Yeah, he does a does a.

really good job. The those guys are. playing well. Pass rush, the guys in the. back end are all all playing well and I. think yeah, we we feed off that energy. on offense, seeing those guys make. stops, make big plays, sacks, turnovers. Um that's been huge for us. >> Why don't you let Rigberto punt full. field a couple times? Let the guy build. his average. Every time he goes out. there, he hits a perfect ball. Rico's. batting a thousand right now. He. actually is. Danny, >> is he? >> Yes. >> Is that a stat? That's an official stat. >> I'll give it out because I'm actually. watching him because I I've I've been on.

a couple offenses that were very. successful, you know. So, you're getting. a fifth of the amount of punts of. everybody else. But what that means is. every is like, well, you you don't. really have to do much. It's like, of. course, of course I don't. But every. punt means if I shank one, our average. is screwed for what, two months with the. way this offense is basically going. So. like every punt matters for Rio and he. hits. He's been batting a thousand. I I. think Yeah, he has been. It's amazing. I. love Rio Berto. Love Badgely, too. Love.

him stepping in. Obviously didn't enjoy. the the injury that took place to our. guy Spencer. He'll be back stronger than. ever. And we see your hat, you know, and. it feels like it's been a big part of. the story. Coach Ba been with Colts. multiple times. Has a question for you. Yeah, I I think Jim Ers spirit has got. to have a big part of that locker room. and I see Shane does it, you do it, the. picture behind you. Um, let him carry. you guys all the way cuz he will. Hell. yeah. >> Yes, sir. Yes, sir. Absolutely. I think. um, you know, I didn't know Mr. per say,

but just from from uh everyone around. here and and the relationships um he had. with a lot of these a lot of the players. and obviously all the all the staff, I. think you get a sense for how strong his. his uh you know, his spirit and memory. still is here. So, um yeah, no doubt. >> We love the guitar. Uh Grove brings the. guitar in, gets the pick, you know, for. the guitar. Pitman brought it in. obviously this week. Gets the tip. Okay. then gets the the touchdown. It's like,

"Okay, let's get our let's get this. let's keep this guitar around. Let's. maybe uh five people walk in with this. guitar." We appreciate you, man. Enjoy. the rest of the season. Thank you for. taking time out of your life here. >> Awesome. Appreciate y'all having me. >> Yeah. Stay healthy, brother. >> Yeah. What's What's today look like? >> What's today look like? What's today. look like? We all watch film. Remember, we haven't done [ __ ] yet, right? This. season, we haven't done anything, >> right? We haven't done Yeah. We're about. to get back in the film room. We got to. see what these Steelers look like. >> I'll tell [snorts] you. >> You're going to like what you see. [laughter]. He's a kind of Daniel.

[cheering]. >> Don't say that to him. >> No, I know. I know. But he might. Good. news is Tomlin just had his press. conference and said they're not changing. a damn thing. [laughter]. >> We knew that though. We knew that. >> Yes, we did. >> Yeah, we knew that. That That's Hey, that's Coach Tomlin right there. Steelers football. >> Remember, he has to get his guys back, too. >> What do you mean? >> His defense coordinator. >> Yeah, >> he's got to get his guys back like he. has to publicly. That's something you. have to do legitimately. >> He's having cities back. Okay. Well, that's in his mind when he sits down. I. would assume I've not been in there. He. knows. Boy, this guy sucks right now at.

his job. But publicly, he's got to go. work with this guy. He can't just bury. him publicly. >> Have to. >> Well, how much work is he doing then? Cuz if he's doing a lot of work, then. are [laughter] we aiming our sights at. the wrong guy? I That's where I get. confused. >> Oh, you think there's a fall guy here? Austin, DC, knocking the proper attack. on coach Tomlin. You not in there. Uh, coach, at press conference, whenever a. coordinator is potentially on the hot. seat with the fans, how how do you. address that? Do you do you go up there. knowing like, hey, if I say anything.

here, it's potentially going to spark a. fire. Is that a thought that you have. going in? >> No, I I think you just tell the truth. and and I hired the guy. He's my guy. It's my job to fix him. >> All right. It's not his fault. It's my. fault. >> Got it. >> So, as a head coach, you reflect it all. back to yourself and uh this player. didn't have a great game. It's my job to. coach him better. this coach didn't have. a good game. My job to coach him better. >> Now, on that note, uh sometimes when you. say that, it does sound like you're. pandering a bit, you know, because like. a player will make a full fail and then. the coach will be like, "That's on me. I.

didn't coach him up, right?" It's like, "Hey, hero, don't need you saying that. Hey, Tom McMahon. Tom McMahon tried to. go to bat for me one time on something.". He was like, "That's on me. I didn't. have him prepared for that." I'm like, "Hey, Tom, shut up." Okay, you know who. that was on. I shanked that [ __ ] out of. bounds. That was on me. He goes, "Yeah, but they need to know that I could have. made you better or whatever." I'm like, "No, you've did every this 100% on me. I. don't like that you're lying to these. people or whatever." But it's like. taking up for your people is a big part. of leading. Like that is that is a huge. part of leading. And I think Coach. Tomlin is like what? One of the most. loyal people. Oh, yeah. For sure. >> In the history of the NFL. So like not.

that that's a great thing, too. Remember, he kept Canada around for a. long time whenever everybody was looking. for it. But he did move on from that. Canada. First time in the middle of the. season Pittsburgh Steelers have ever. fired a coordinator or whatever in the. history of the Steelers. I I think there. was a time where a coach or something. >> the owner Oh yeah, >> the owner was coaching. He fired himself. and that was before they sold. >> Yeah. So it was a long time ago. So he. has had to make moves before, but I. think he does have to kind of represent. for his guys out there publicly. >> Or he could take the Brian Kelly. approach and, you know, basically just.

make a bunch of excuses, throw it on. everyone else's plate, [ __ ]. sideline, say, "Hey, you just lost your. [ __ ] job." Do that. I mean, now did. that work out for him? Not Not. especially, but [laughter] he just. with the athletic director. >> Well, and and he's and he's walking away. with a check for $54 million. So, is it. that bad? Is it that bad? >> I don't know if coach Tomman's got the. same deal as Brian Kelly's got. I don't. know how uh how all those deals work, but boy, that Brian Kelly situation is. fascinating. Certainly,

>> it's just getting worse and worse. >> What down there? >> Yeah. I mean, you know, you take it with. a grain of salt, but now just like all. the stories come out like Yeah. Like. what you see is true. This guy's a. massive piece of [ __ ]. >> Is what people are saying. Exactly. That's what people are saying and uh. obviously everybody's going to have. those story. He is due 54 million over. the next six years. Let's talk about. these college coaches getting fired. Let's talk about coaches getting fired. in general. Coaches know it's coming. Like Brian Kelly knew that was coming. James Franklin, do you think he knew. that was coming without loud? It seemed. like James Franklin did not know that it.

was it was coming even though it was. very very loud on the outside because of. how much success in winning and. everything that that program has done. under him and with how long he was. there. Brian Kelly. Obviously, you lose. to Texas A&M in the fashion that you. lose to Texas&M. Texas&M might win the. national championship. Texas&M is a. very, very, very, very good football. team. They blow out Alisu. Do you think. Brian Kelly knows that it's a. possibility? You think these guys know. it's a possibility? >> I don't think those guys do. I I think. they think I'm invincible. And I I'll. write this ship. I know how to do this. And there's so much money involved in.

college football now. It's like the bo. the boosters. No, you're not because. you're not running this [ __ ] anymore. Do. you think it's an unflapable confidence. that coaches have to have? >> Oh, you have to. Yeah, you gota you have. to walk on in in that office knowing I'm. the best there is. >> That'd be crazy if Brian Kelly just. walked in there the next day. [whistles]. >> How we doing? Pretty good. Tough game. We'll get it back. We'll get it back. Hey, Texas&M. Good football team. Hey, why don't you come in here real quick? >> Sure. What are we doing? We having a. little Sit down. You're fired.

[laughter]. >> How much you guys owe me? Like 54. million. Yeah, we're gonna pay you. >> Check, please. >> Holy [ __ ] All right, >> sounds good. >> He's walked out, got in his little. wagon. You see the car? I love that they. had people camped out outside. Actually, I hate that they had people camped out. outside the parking lot. I'd like to let. that be known. There are some people. that camp out some of the places that I. end up at. It scares the [ __ ] out of me, especially in the current environment. that we are in. Not great, but I guess. down there at LSU, this is what you kind. of expect when you sign up. Them having. him, he was in the building six minutes. This guy.

out of there. $51 million, [laughter]. loses Texas&M, gone the next day. I do. wonder if he woke up in the morning. thinking it was possible. And it's like. uh Napier, I think he probably had to. >> He did. He did for sure. He won too. I. don't think James. >> win [laughter]. after a win. >> And then it was almost like it was being. talked about and I don't want to say. anything out of line because Nate Pier. has been good to us and to our show and. to game day. Seemingly in a very. difficult spot down there. Not saying. Florida's a tough spot, but him, for.

whatever reason, maybe didn't hit on the. right guys and they started losing and. their schedule every single year was. like, you're playing every good team. that has ever played. But it felt like a. lot of people around college football on. like Tuesday, Wednesday before they. played that game were like, yeah, >> he's getting fired on Sunday. It's like, what if they beat Miss? >> No. Yeah. He's getting fired. >> It's all happening on Sunday. It's like, well, what is that? Is that rounding up. all the boosters to pay the payout? You. think that's what it is? They had to get. everybody on board. like no matter what. happens, he's getting fired. So, that. decision had to be made like two weeks.

beforehand and then it's like, okay, now. they're leading up to one particular day. for the f college football is crazy. I. know you're advising right now. It is a. wild. >> Something tells me that decision was. probably made after the USF loss and. then they were probably just getting. stuff in order. >> Had to get everything in order. I. >> I think every name on there probably. should have known that it was coming. except for those those top two. I don't. think they they thought it was coming. when it was coming. >> I don't Dundee, you don't think middle. of the season. There's no way he thought. it was coming. >> 20 years. >> Um Norville seemed blindsided, >> Jay. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah, he did. Jay Norvel did not know.

that was coming, honestly. Up there at. Colorado State. Been there a long time. Him and coach Prime obviously had their. words, but that was good for the. rivalry. You kind of Trent Dolpher, >> I know he didn't think he was going to. be. >> He's a pioneer. >> That was his decision. >> He's invented. It was It was Yeah, >> that was going to be his decision. And. Trent Bray, I mean, that guy can coach. and then you go to Brent Pride. Virginia. Tech didn't really give him a chance. >> No, they didn't. [laughter]. Old Dominion. >> Yeah. >> 24 nothing and a half or 30, whatever. Hell, that was over. I love Brent. I.

hell of a guy, hell of a football coach, but it just didn't work out. >> Yeah, you got to win. This is a uh we. need wins. Which goes back to uh the NIO. era where every team can get good get. good in the offseason, which leads your. boosters to think you're going to be. good and then whenever it's not good, it's like, well, what did I give my. money to? Oh, well, I'm not giving you. money. Yeah, right. I'm not doing that. again. Well, we need your money. Well, I'm not I'm not doing that. Same guy. Is. that who I'm giving? Yeah, he's he's a. good coach. I just gave $5 million. It. went down the drain. I might as well. just light that on fire. Maybe piss on.

it at my house. Why would I give it back. to you guys? Oh, because we need it for. the good of the thing. Well, I'm not. giving that guy. We'll fire him. All. right, I'll double if you do that. Then. all of a sudden, guys fired. And now. it's like, well, who's next? Is there. enough coaches to be hired next? Are you. going to hate the next guy? And then how. long or next girl? How long are we how. long is that going to happen? I don't I. honestly don't know. This was kind of. the conversation on game day. Yeah. where Kirk's like, "I don't think these. people that give $10 million should have. any say in anything." It's how how he. started. And it's like, Kirk, I agree. with what you're saying, but that's just.

not reality. How how are you going to. get $10 million from these people and. then just expect them not to say. anything? Or how do you how do you. expect them to not threaten to not give. more money? Like there's a lot of power. in there whenever you're taking $10. million, $5 million checks from people. Yeah, but it's not right. It's like we. all agree with you, Herby, but this is. kind of the reality of the business. And. it is crazy to think like we talk about. the NFL firing offense coordinators or. coaches with these young quarterbacks. It's like think about some of these. colleges that are going to be in uh. >> Oh yeah.

>> They're going to be chasing a dragon. >> probably for a long long time. And then. there's going to be other schools that. find their fit like Virginia Tech. because BA is obviously looking for. they're going to find their fit and. they're going to be able to build a. massive sustainable program and their. donors aren't going to care. They're. going to keep doing it. It's like you're. going to see uh if you can evaluate. talent or not, you're going to see I. think in college over the next 10 years. what it's going to be. >> That's like why like Texas's setup is. kind of awesome. You know, like they. have the committee at the top that you. know the the coach goes to and then it's. more so like hey the boosters can [ __ ].

at the committee and then maybe the. committee can you know transfer that. message to the coach kind of properly. >> Uh I hope so. Let's go to some baseball. last night 18 inning World Series battle. where Show Otani, the biggest star in. the sport, was on base nine times in one. game. And now tonight, he'll be the. starting pitcher in a World Series game. We have insane stuff happening. And. joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, is. a man who's been covering baseball on. ESPN for 35 years, friend of the. program. He's on the pregame show, which.

we need to be able to see better and. easier. Ladies and gentlemen, Carl. Ravish. >> [applause]. >> Ravi, what up, baby? >> Not me, baby. Not me. I don't know. It. was 4:00 a.m. when we uh rolled into the. rack. 1:45 out here in the West Coast. That's not supposed to happen. But I'll. tell you one thing. You guys You guys. saw some of it, I'm sure. It was amazing. for 12 innings and then it kind of. slowed down and then it ended with. another Freddy Freeman bag. We're we're. watching some amazing amazing things in.

Major League Baseball the last couple of. years. We knew going into this thing the. Dodgers were the most talented team that. money has ever bought. Uh but boy, the. Blue Jays split the first two games and. forced them into 18 innings last night. We got ourselves a really good World. Series is what we got, Pat. >> Yeah, I've been paying attention. I've. actually enjoyed the hell out of it. I. know baseball people might not love the. way the Dodgers have gone about doing. what they've done to build this roster. Me as kind of like floating sports fan, love whenever you acrew a bunch of stars.

and they all show up. Like I I love. whenever the stars and studs do their. jobs because I like whenever teams try. to go for it and it works for them. On. the flip side, this Blue Jay story is. incredible. Who was the buddy that got. paid 15,000? >> Alejandro Kirk, their catcher. >> This guy not supposed to be in baseball. games. I know that. I'm watching him on. TV. I'm like, who's this guy's favorite. baseball player? Then I just learned he. got paid 15 grand out of a Mexican. league basically to come into the MLB, 5'8, hitting dongs in the World Series. This is dream come true. Now, let's. continue that conversation. Dream come.

true for MLB for the World Series. tonight. Show starting for the Dodgers. Obviously, this man is a spectacle. Obviously, this man is already an icon. Connor broached the question, hey, is. this the greatest athlete of all time, let alone just greatest baseball player. of all time. What should we expect from. him tonight? Obviously, with not much. rest after getting on base nine times. last night. And what is the expectation. for the level of play this evening as a. whole? Ravi, I don't think I really know. your sport well enough for two games to. be played in one night and then a.

biggest game of the year the next night. >> Yeah, it's probably a little bit easier. to do it since it's baseball instead of, you know, your sport football or. basketball. There's not a lot of. physicality going on in this thing. Um I. look with Otani, I expect greatness. I. think he's going to come out and he's. going to be great because that's what he. does. Otani's in that class now, Pat. uh. in which you would talk about Tiger. Woods, you talk about Michael Jordan, you talk about Tom Brady, you you expect. him to do things because he expect.

himself to do things. I mean, I got a. list here of Otani accomplishments that. reads like something that you couldn't. make up. I mean, it's it's show Otani. has reached base safely 10 straight. played appearances. 10 straight. So, the. final plate appearance of game two and. of course nine times. similar to Jordan, similar to the Tiger. Woods effect on golf courses. Um, nobody. wants to see a dude walked intentionally. four times. Do we need an Otani rule?

>> Should we limit the amount of times. somebody is able to be intentionally. walked in a game? Maybe it's two, maybe. it's three. I mean, it's something to. consider in a world in which baseball. has made a lot of good rule changes to. make the game better. Fans are what this. is supposed to be about. I'm telling. you, sitting right there in about row. four, people were screaming because he's. being walked. I mean, they want to see. the confrontation, but look at the. numbers. >> Yeah, they want to see the show. literally. Hey, >> they want to see it.

>> Hey, that is what we're here for. Hey, show. Hey, we're here for the show. Hey, that's what we got going on. How would. they be able to make that rule? Like I. know beer league softball you're allowed. like two home runs and then it's an out. every time you do that. They'd be able. to just act like they were pitching and. it just not be an intentional walk. >> Well, you can't you just Yeah. I mean. that's what happened the fifth time that. they instead of intentionally walk him. they. >> nonintentionally walked him. I mean that. but instead of putting up four fingers. at least give the mirage that we're. trying to pitch to the guy the same way. they put the uh number of times you can.

throw over to first base. You know they. limited that. They they have a pitch. clock. Rob Manfred could sit there with. a pen and a paper and say intentional. walk limited to three times per player. per game. >> We'd like that now. Rob, we know Rob. obviously got a chance to chat with him. at the All-Star game. I think what. baseball is doing and trying to evolve. and catch up with the times and. captivate uh an audience is wonderful. I. think the fact that a sport in a league. as old as this is willing to adapt is a. beautiful thing. And also their stars. showing up for them is huge. Ty has a.

question for you. Ravi. Yeah, Ravi, it's. kind of along the lines of that. Uh. they're not going to change that rule. tonight. And I'm kind of thinking like. the the Blue Jays have to intentionally. walk him every single time. I understand. it's going to piss people off. That's. not what anyone wants to see, but you. just can't pitch to this guy. And I. understand he's batting lead off, so. that kind of puts you in a precarious. situation when you're putting a guy on. right away. But just coming off last. night's uh game, is there any way the Blue Jays can win. this game tonight? Like I mean I I.

listen I've watched the Blue Jays a lot. this year being a Yankees fan but after. how demoralizing that was like what how. do you see this game going tonight I. guess? >> Yeah I yeah the bounceback question is a. real one Tai and it's a good question. and Shane Bieber is going to be on the. mound. Shane Bieber's got all sorts of. uh you know great history of Sai Young. and he comes over here late in a deal. with the Guardians. The question's going. to be and Bieber acknowledges it. I. mean, I sat talking with Shane Bieber. while we did the LCS on the radio. He's.

coming off Tommy John surgery. It's. usually two years until you feel 100%. He doesn't know how he's going to feel. He literally says, "Every time I go out. there, my arm is a mystery. So much of. this is going to be on what he can do.". The bigger issue when you talk about the. game and the series globally is by the. end of that game last night with George. Springer being out, with Kirk not being. in the lineup anymore, with Barger being. out, um it was it felt more of a.

question of when do the Dodgers score. because the Blue Jays don't have anybody. in this lineup short of that guy on the. screen and Vlad Guerrero. They can. really hit a ball over the wall. Dalton. Voel maybe, but their lineup at the end. of that game with some of the pinch. running decisions that were made and the. Springer injury, I don't see how George. Springer plays tonight. Now, the same. thing could be said about George. Springer coming back from getting dinged. on a knee with a baseball, then hitting. that uh immense home run, maybe the. second biggest home run in Blue Jay.

history. That that's really going to be. the challenge for Toronto. How the hell. are they going to score? It doesn't. matter if it's Otani on the mound or. anybody else. How are they gonna score. runs with their lineup that's banged up? >> Ravi, we appreciate you joining us. When. can we watch you tonight? >> You got me at five to six uh Eastern. time. We'll be leading into and then. last night, Pat, I know you were up. We. did a postgame show from about 1:45 to. 2:15 in the West Coast. So, join us. then. I'll I'll text you. I'll let you. know if we're on at [laughter] 4 again.

>> Thank you, Ravi. Ladies and gentlemen, >> post game show [laughter]. >> after an 18 ining game. Hell yeah, Ravi. Hold it down, bro. That's awesome. >> Yeah, I actually did a postgame show. after an 18 inning World Series. How. about you? Yeah. 115 Eastern. >> 145. All right. Hour two is on the other. side. Be a friend. Tell a friend. something nice. Speaking of kicking footballs, especially here at Vandy, we have living.

legend here, Sarah Fuller, who's a. three-time SEC champion soccer player. for Vandy and also came in to kick for. Vandy whenever they needed. An absolute. badass. We appreciate you stopping by, Sarah. Welcome back to campus. >> Great to have you here. [cheering]. >> And Kirk, we have a man named Tyler. Huang. Is that accurate? >> There you go. >> Okay. Where are you from? I'm from do, Massachusetts. >> All right. So, I've heard Vanderbilt is. the Harvard of the South. What are your. majors here? >> I'm a chem and econ major.

>> Okay. A chem. Okay. That's what we call. it. That's slang for chemical. engineering. >> There you go. >> Yeah. I'm in the chem world, too. You uh. played soccer your whole life? >> Yes, sir. >> Did you ever kick a football or field. goals? >> Senior year. Senior year. >> You were the high school kicker for your. team? >> A few games. I might have stepped in. >> Okay. So, you have a lot of experience. Sarah, do you think uh he should be able. to make it on his first attempt then, right? >> Oh, absolutely. I have all the. confidence. He's got the soccer. He's. got the football background. He's got. it. >> Okay. And Kirk Herbstreak's chasing a. squirrel behind us as he plays catch.

with everybody here in Vandy. >> Have you ever made a kick from this far? >> Oh, of course. >> you have. >> Of course. >> All right. So, here's the deal. Here's. the deal. One kick only. One kick only. $500,000. Okay. Half a million dollars. Tyler, if. you're able to make a 33 yd field goal, we'll also donate $250,000 to charity. $750,000 in total. $500,000 in your.

pocket. 250 to charity. [cheering]. [cheering]. >> Take the lap, kid. What you. [cheering]. >> guys.

Tyler? [laughter]. >> Come on now. >> Congratulations. Tyler Wayne hits the biggest ball we. have seen. >> Sarah Fuller with the tip. Herby with. the hole. >> Down. Andy, >> that was incredible. >> with a magical Saturday morning. [cheering]. >> How many kicks have we been doing over. the years? I have no idea. >> That was the best kick we've ever had, bro. Ever. Ever.

>> Best kick we've ever had. >> You said it's been 2 years. Uh, I think. maybe you should start trying to send. some tape out to colleges around the. country. You murdered that, brother. What is the first dollar going to be. spent on those degrees you're getting. right now? >> Yeah, probably helping my parents help. me out with that. Um, just so excited. Can't believe it. >> You're the best, Dave. Congratulations, Tyler. Congrats to his parents. >> The following program is a collection of. students talking about happenings in the. sports world. It is meant to be comedic,

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of the program begins now. >> Football. [screaming]. remix. That's coach BA Super Bowl. champion. The toxic table is here at. Boss of Connor and at Ty Schmidt. One. half of the hammer cowboys AP Tony's. here. And joining us live from an attic. in Ohio is a man who is the all-time. leading tackler for the Green Bay. Packers, a college football national. champion, a Super Bowl champion, and a. man who once had 40ome tackles in a high. school football game. Ladies and. gentlemen, the legend AJ Hawker.

>> Hawker. How you. >> That number seems to grow, huh? I think. you started at 32 or 33. It's already. over 40. Well, you had multiple games. over 30. I think you only had one game. over 40. And you said there's a bunch of. J Os on there. My coach really patted. the snatch. Nonetheless, this cranium. right here was all over the yard in. every yard that he was playing football. in. On that note, the Chiefs is all the. way back. Congrats to you getting it. right, forcing [applause] me to go the. other way. Thought you were an underdog. type guy. Turns out you're not. Worst. slate in the history uh in the last 55.

years for the NFL. 2080 will be the next. time that this will take place. If we. were to repeat the same time frame where. there's only one game that is a one-sore. game on an entire NFL slate. What did. you learn from last night's 10 and a. half point spread where the Chiefs. covered easily over the Washington. Commanders? AJ? >> Yeah, the the Chiefs did cover easily. eventually it got to that, but uh early. on it was a bit of a I don't know what. does Gumpy call those soccer games that. are terribly. caging.

>> Yeah, it was definitely a defensive. battle early. I would say some turnovers. obviously both sides, but uh yeah, the. Chiefs know what to do. The Chiefs know. how to win. That's what they're they're. programmed to do. It's what Patrick. Mahomes is programmed to do and they. just find ways to win. And also credit. to that Chiefs defense again. They they. played very well, I thought. >> Uh BA, what do you see from the. offensive side with the amount of. weapons that Patrick Mahomes is having, they're saying this might be the best. offense that they've ever had whenever. they get this thing really rolling with. the amount of weapons that they have. >> Yeah, they got Pachenko going in to run. the game and offensive line's playing. better. Rasheed Rice makes a huge.

difference and uh the speed is showing. up. >> You know, since Tyreek has been gone, the speed is starting to show back up. I. just would pat would get out of bounds. some. He took some hits he don't need to. take. >> Yeah. Well, that was last year. Remember. last year and also earlier this year. when they weren't playing that well, he. started doing the. >> Yeah. >> I got to be the guy guy guy, you know, and I think he views himself as tough. guy. Grew up obviously in a clubhouse. baseball. Dad's a dog. I think he views. himself as a dog. I don't think he sees. himself as we all see him like, "Yo, brother, you're already on the Mount. Rushmore of football players. Brother,

you're already in a goat conversation. Brother, if you get hurt, they are. screwed over there in Kansas City." I. don't think he sees it like that right. now. >> No, it's too tough for his own good. And. a lot of these guys are getting that. way. But he took one or two shots on the. sideline. He could have just stepped out. of bounds. And I think since he started. deflexing, guys are taking bigger shots. on him. >> Well, that was cuz he did the dosey do. on a guy and hits a guy. And then. everybody that has a defensive helmet on. their head or ever has worn a defensive. helmet on their head said, "Guy, keep. doing that. Go ahead and keep doing it.".

And the NFL doesn't want to happen. either. These refs Okay, let's get into. it. >> Here we go. >> Age. Age. >> Bruce Arens has been a coach 47 years in. football. Okay. >> I've obviously not witnessed all 47. years of him coaching football. I've. only seen one year. And [laughter] uh I. I think I saw enough to really have a a. pretty good grasp on how this whole. thing goes. We were in spring, okay, OTAAS running some drills, seven on. seven or whatever. Had refs in local.

refs that are like college refs, okay? Local refs that are college refs. They. come in just getting some practice, okay? Just getting some practice. But. hey, if you're just going to get some. practice, don't be ruining our practice. Is BA's mindset. Guy misses a touchdown. Okay, guy misses a clearly two feet in, he calls him out. Obviously, the defense. does a full celebration. I mean, it was. clearly a touchdown. Like me and Vinnie. are standing right there, two feet. clearly in. Bad call by the refs. Defense doesn't want to hear. Defense. does a fool to BA, you know, cuz BA's.

coming in wearing all black on days that. he kills him in the whole funeral. So, BA. listens to the defense and then just. completely turns to this ref just beline. to ref. lets him know how big of an. embarrassment he is basically and how. much he like chooses he undresses this. ref in this OTAA thing and he walks. away. Okay, then he walks away and then. he starts talking [ __ ] to the defense. and talks [ __ ] about the ref while. talking [ __ ] to the defense to them and. walks away. I was like, "Yes, this is. before I got to see him in action during.

games." Then during games, you know, you. got that side judge or whatever on the. sideline. unbelievable working of this. side judge and I think he has a personal. relationship with basically all of them. I I am pretty sure he has a personal. relationship with all of them but BA. much like the players okay I think. players normally feel this way a lot. more than coaches do at least and act on. it. BA understands these refs are very. important to the game and when they are. asked they need to hear about it. I. asked BA this morning, hey, anything you. want to talk about?

>> We need to talk about these refs. That's. what he said. Okay, that was his big. takeaway. Okay. >> And I'll tell you what, compelling case. whenever you start seeing some things. And obviously everybody's talking about. the tush push. We'll save that for last. There were some clear and obvious ones. on Sunday Night Football in the biggest. game between the Steelers and the. Packers that they think you're right. Brick Jones, Pittsburgh Steelers, left. tackle actually goes in motion basically. for a play. Now, it's not as easy to see. uh if you're not looking for it at the. beginning, which a ref should be. They. get sky cam on this. This thing is This. guy's behind the guard before the ball's.

even snapped. Okay. Don't know how you. miss that, honestly. That's what drives. me crazy. The clear and obvious. They. don't warn the tackles anymore. They'll. call them. And now you see a tackle. sitting back four yards. This guy's off. sides. And then that the one where the. defense jumps off sides. >> on a complete the next drive. So now the. Green Bay Packers Now the Green Bay. Packers uh have a chance. Mike is trying. to scare him. Get Zack Frasier jump off. sides. How you doing? What he actually. gets is his DTackle to move uh. >> Devonte Wyatt. >> And then Rashan Garry also. There's two. guys offside. This on third down. Aaron.

just being in the game 20 years. Okay, this a free play. Almost to the point. where they should have stopped it. because they almost made contact. Like. if there's no contact in their off. sides, they let the free play happen. This guy was so close to Frasier, you. thought they might even stop it because. there's contact. Then Aaron Rogers. throws an incompletion. It's now fourth. down. He goes bananas on these refs. But. this is the biggest game of the weekend. This is Sunday night football. This is. early. Uh these are some important parts. of the game. Very clear and obvious. they're missing it. Are they dropping. Donna level right now? Are the refs.

getting worse right now at the clear and. obvious ba? I. >> I think it's it's totally true that uh. that quality from week to week is. getting worse. >> No, I don't like that cuz then you said. BK it's just two. There's just one crew. That's just one crew down there. He's. just check Tampa Bay game. Check Tampa. Bay game against the Saints. So this. play I think we need sound on please. Spencer Rattler quarterback for the New. Orleans or I'm sorry not is this Spencer. Rattler? >> This is Yes. >> Spencer Rattler quarterback for the. Saints. Sound please. >> For sure. pass to Glenn and Chaz. Grler.

on the slant. Fumble. First down. And then the ball. came loose. >> Taken back by Winfield. No whistles. >> Fumbles recovered by the defense. There. was a whistle blown after. >> commentator just said no whistles. Here. I think is in the middle of saying I. didn't hear a whistle. The ball was. clearly out obviously off with him. So. they take touchdown back off of the. board. They still have the fumble. recovery there. BA says, "Oh, okay.

Yeah, just take a touchdown off the. board because of a whistle that none of. us heard." And it was on the opposite. side of the field. Is that what you were. told? >> Yeah, the opposite side official wasn't. even his call. Makes a call. Blows a. whistle. Now, to me, that's that's. suspension. >> Yeah, >> that's a suspension. You don't you don't. call any more games rest this year. >> It's the NFL. >> It's not your call. It's the highest. level. It's not your call. Let the. person call it supposed to. This. inadvertent whistle thing drove me crazy. for a long, long time. This is about the. third one of these I've had. >> Okay. So, and he said I we've had as if.

he's still in the Bucks. You'll see some. of the awards he gives out. He he does. have to walk into that building still on. that point. And then obviously. hyped. And whenever you think about this. play yesterday, Dan Olowski and our. conversation about it, 2 million views. on X. Uh the other one like 1.8 million. views on X. People obviously at the. point of wanting to figure this out. Now, most people saying get it out of. the game. Philadelphia people still. putting up the same fight that they had. during the offseason whenever they were. trying to ban this. It's like, hey, it's. a football play. If it's so easy, why.

isn't everybody doing? Then we watch the. offsides that happen. We watch the. illegal motions. Now we're watching this. happen where they say forward progress. is stopped and they give take away a. fumble recovery for the New York. Football Giants against the Philadelphia. Eagles. Clear and obvious to everybody. but the refs. >> Yeah. To me, it's like, okay, I'm all. for the tush push. I mean, Jaylen Herz. is unbelievable. Only he can do it. Yeah. But if you can't referee the play, the play's got to get out of the game. And obviously, they can't referee this. play anymore. Between all the false. starts, the offsides, and this.

ridiculous play that that the forward. progress was stopped, they're all going. forward. He's reaching forward when they. take the ball away that and it got. reviewed. Now, if you're going to review it, you. review the whole play. >> Just get the right call. >> But they're saying that. forward progress being stopped trumps. everything. >> Yeah, they've been using that for a long. time. Yeah, it has been the Trump card. Their. trump card has always been the forward. progress thing if they made a mistake. But we're at the point now where it's. like why not just get it right if you. can get it right. We're already doing.

the New York drop in expedited rules. Well, they can't overturn everything. They can't put a flag out. It's like why. not? You guys are letting them basically. do that anyways. Why don't we just get. the call right if we know it's clear and. obvious? And the way this was originally. reported, correct me if I'm wrong, I. think one of the aggregator accounts put. it out and said there was uh a mistimed. whistle or something like that. It was. like the whistle actually didn't blow. until after Tibido had the ball. So. there was no blow of this thing being. dead. It was just a forward progress. conversation. AJ Bruce Brown, New York.

Giants fan obviously, so he's going to. feel a little bit certain way about. this. He said if they were to stop. forward progress every time they did. push push, well wouldn't that what's the. push for? Cuz at some point he's going. to stop and then they're going to push. him. So are they stopping the forward. progress every single time now? Is that. the expectation? Is the first time he. stops is what the tush push is. Which. goes to BA's point. None of us know what. everybody's going to do, which is. probably what the defenses would like a. little clarity on. AJ, >> yeah, everyone needs some clarity, I. feel like. But also like the it's. getting worse as the season goes when it. comes to the tush push and things like.

like the stuff that I guess you should. be able to figure out that you shouldn't. be making repeat mistakes. They continue. to make them. And I'm sure there's. there's plenty of good refs out there. I. know that there really is. But the. problem is the bad ones make all of them. look much worse. I feel. >> I just heard BA say where [laughter]. >> I just heard the benefit of the doubt. Got to be some good. No, there is there. certainly is good refs. We're not going. to say it's very difficult to get an. entire team of good refs in in this. >> in this environment. I mean, no, not a. lot of people are signing up to be refs, you know, like that is certainly an.

issue, which goes back to. >> we need that player pipeline. >> We need that academy. >> I think so. I legitimately think it's a. good idea indeed. >> Do you think the NFL will ever get on. board with it? >> I would think so. there. I mean, it's. it's for former players, you know. For. me, it's like whatever we can do to help. a former player transition to the next. step after playing. We do it for. broadcasting. We do it for some other. things. >> Business, they do it for business. They. do it for broadcast. >> Steve Freeman was the best back judge I. ever knew cuz he played safety for 13.

years. He knew exactly where his eyes. were supposed to be all the time. And uh. to me, that was like we need more Steve. Freemans out here. And we're not saying. that all refs have to be former players, but we're saying if we can recruit. former players to become officials by. this academy that the NFL and the NFL PA. have done for many of you talked about. broadcast, they did for business as. well. I think there's a social media one. now. There's like there's all these. different things that kind of get pieced. together like little boot camps that get. pieced together to help players do it. If it was actually that big of a deal to. the league, I mean, you can make that a.

year- round thing. You offer salaries, you get on scholarship, you can even get. sponsors to get in there because. everybody wants the ref thing to be. fixed. And you're taking care of former. players. Easy babyface move by the NFL. do this. And I think you get guys that. uh appreciate the job, know the job, and. also aren't scared. Like I think some. people in some of these calls are scared. to make the call. And it's like, uh, are. you scared? Are you conf like what is. going on? And new refs probably getting. intimidated. I would say that is. something that could certainly happen, especially on NFL field whenever you're. seeing people that maybe you even played.

video games with playing alongside you. >> and they're talking to you and you got. BA on in your ear as well. Like that's a. real that's a not a lost art, but that's. a thing great coaches do. They will work. the refs to where you you might get a. little you might get a little help as. the game goes on. >> Yeah. And a little frantic too. You're. getting there maybe a little frazz. I'm. not saying every ref, but we're just. saying like if we can get players in. these positions, I I think that would be. good for the game. And I think we should. be trying to promote that legitimately. I think that's something they should. think about doing. >> Well, and the whole thing it's strictly. about accountability. Like guess what? Refs are going to screw it up no matter. what forever. But if you're not.

accountable, then you'll just continue. to screw up and it won't matter. whatsoever because it didn't matter then. and they can just skate by and go to the. next game. And to your point about the. aggregator tweet, yeah, it was like. early whistle on the Eagles before the. fumble. That's wrong. But you know, 10. million views later, everyone thinks. that there's an early whistle. So people. not knowing ball also a massive problem. Like no matter what the pipelines. absolutely should happen people from. those pipelines will get calls wrong. like that happens no m human error.

forever in the past and the future will. always happen but it's strictly. accountability like if you don't have. accountability then nothing actually. matters. >> and on that note Jean's territory right. we've talked to him a lot about how he. handles being ref and he's like hey you. know what DB was holding a little bit. didn't affect the play we kind of carry. on here this one not a part of the play. We just kind of keep it feel like a feel. for the And I'm not saying that there's. zero NFL officials currently that have. uh feel feel for the game. I'm just.

saying like ex players would have that. feel, you know? It's like we should that. seems like a. >> you got to get the easy ones right. You. got to get the easy ones right. Like. that's the thing. Like I understand. there's some tough ones. There's some, you know, was that PI? Was it not PI? Whatever. just those I understand a. little bit the judgment calls but some. of these things like seem like almost. day one install stuff for ref. >> Roick Jones there 77 I mean him going in. motion that that is literally what he. did he won motion and then the refs are. like hey listen.

>> listen. >> we'll make up for you back we'll let you. get two guys off sides almost touch on. third down like for Aaron Rogers is. pretty big down here this is the money. down in his head third and eight okay. obviously third and long but I got a. free shot here at anything. Okay, guys. covered, but let's go ahead and give it. a go here. Why not? You know, let's just. kind. >> The most touchdowns in the history of. the NFL with Yeah, that's Aaron's thing. Too many men, jump off, false start, off. sides. His cadence is his cadence. That. is why he does it. So, he feels like, "Yep, did it again. Hello Pittsburgh.

This is the show." And him getting it to. Green Bay probably like, >> "Oh, yeah. >> Yeah, this is my shit." You know, I took. you down trip down memory lane real. quick getting a free play and then the. refs just being like, "Yeah, it's fourth. down, bro." Yeah, >> that was an incomplete pass. >> Good pressure, by the way. >> We punted it and never got another stop. That was the end of the game. >> Oh my god. So, you guys lost not not. because Brett Michaels wasn't heard by. the entire stadium. You lost because of. this. >> Yeah. >> Mike has drawn his own guys off sides,

you know, trying to bait Zack Frasier. who had his hand on a ball. Obviously. not. >> Definitely lost that because of that. That's crazy that that happened to you. guys and you guys are calling for. people's jobs. It should be the. >> Nobody's calling for anybody's jobs. >> Yeah, >> we're just pointing out facts. >> So, >> you everyone else can come to their own. conclusions. >> I like that. >> What would that be? Describe. >> What is your conclusion? >> Uh leading the witness. >> Leading. Uh on that note, let's do a. little BS or no BS with BA, shall we? This is one of our favorite segments.

Every single week we uh present a. statement of fact to coach BA and he. tells us uh tells us if that's BS or if. that's no BS. Here's uh the first one. Running back that trick. Oh, sorry. I. missed I missed it. Sorry. Sorry. [laughter] Sorry. Sorry. I got real. excited. I got real excited. I got real. excited. >> That was great. >> I got really really really excited. Running back that Brinks truck up. Okay. Like back that ass up. Uh, are we. thinking that running backs are about to. get paid? Running backs are about to get.

the brin truck. Is that BS or no BS, BA? That's no BS. I mean, you look at the. guys that just got paid. They're going. to get paid a whole lot more. And then. you got all these young guys who are. absolutely tearing it up. But the thing. I think that separates most of. especially the young guys getting ready. to be paid is that they're great. receivers. >> The great receivers uh had got a lot of. money. Quarterbacks obviously got a lot. of money. defensive ends got a lot of. money. The running backs weren't getting. paid. They were saying that the running.

backs, there was like 30 of them. No big. deal. We could put anybody in these. jobs. They actually had like a little. bit of a hold out. These running backs, if you remember, Squan at one point, uh, alongside Jonathan Taylor, they said, "We're not doing it anymore. We're not. going to play." Jonathan Taylor was the. only one that really stuck to it, I must. say. Okay. Everybody else kind of. folded. Jonathan Taylor remained with. his hoodie up and at practice saying, "Nope, I'm worth more. You need to pay. me." Now, they inevitably did. I love. the way he went about doing it. They. need to pay him again so we don't have. that situation. But it does feel like.

the running back is becoming the main. feature of offenses that are great. again. And that's got to be special as. an oldtime football coach. >> Yeah. You look at Christian McCaffrey. with two weeks ago 63% of the offense. was Christian McAffrey. Yeah. And was. what. 40ome yards rushing. Yeah. >> Seven catches. And I think that's what. that's what separates those guys that. there's such mismatches in the passing. game. Gibbs, Acne, Bejan, all these guys. are huge mis mismatches in the passing.

game. >> So that wasn't always a thing. I. remember back whenever they would say. like, "Well, this running back doesn't. have good hands." Nowadays, you kind of. have to. Doesn't everybody kind of have. to have good hands at this stage of. football? >> I think the only guy right now who's a. great running back that plays first and. second down is Derrick Henry. And he's. never in there on third down. And uh he. can catch. He's great on screens and. stuff. I don't know why he doesn't play. more on third down, but because I. wouldn't mind checking it down to him. and let him go for. >> Yeah, of course. That'd be nice to give. Derrick Henry the ball. They're two and. six right now. The um the thought of.

back in the day though, you talked about. the first two downs. If a wide or if a. running back could run routes like a. wide receiver, it was like this guy's. feet are absolutely unbelievable. Now. it's basically, hey, you're a running. back. You got to catch. You got to run a. route. You got to be able to block. You're almost like a tight end in a back. field all of a sudden and you're getting. the ball handed to you. I think that's. inevitably going to lead to the value. going way up. How long is this last for? Is this the new fad? You know, because. like them not being valuable was a fad. and then now they're back. Is this. sustainable? We think this is how.

everybody's going to try to build. Are. there enough of these guys out there? >> I think there are and they're getting. more and more coming from college that. are really multi-dimensional and the. speed factor is unbelievable. When when. you look at Bejian Robinson with Alers. in the back, him splitting out, who's. covering him? If it's a linebacker or a. safety, I'm that ball's [laughter]. coming right now. Here we go, baby. And. uh I go back to the days where I had. Christian AOY and Barry Word. Big 260, 250 backs, first and second down. Whoop! Third down. Here comes Todd McNair. He. leads the team in receiving. We play the.

Chargers. >> Big backs. Oh, >> Ronnie Harmon comes in. You can't cover. this guy. [laughter]. >> Yeah, >> he's going to beat you every time. And. uh so I see the halfback, you know, went. it went to Hbacks, tight ends, kind of. became the mismatch, Brock Bowers, those. type guys. Now it's coming back to the. halfbacks. You're seeing a lot more. empty sets. Those guys going, especially. in a two back set, say they got an out a. big back and a and a fast guy. I. wouldn't be surprised to see Detroit. have Montgomery and Gibbs in the game. real soon together. >> Oh, tag team Sonic and Knuckles. Do you. hear what they were calling them after.

week one up there in Detroit? [laughter]. >> Did you hear what they were calling him? >> No, I did not. >> Oh, hey Foxy, what were you guys. calling? What were you calling them. specifically? These guys that are. leading your team now. >> Don't listen to Pat. I never called him. this, but after week one when we got our. asses kicked by the Packers, instead of. Sonic and Knuckles, they were calling. them ass and cheeks. And I didn't like. it one bit, though. >> That's what they were saying. That's. what they were saying up there in. Detroit. >> Sometimes Sometimes you got to eat that. [ __ ] [laughter]. >> Sometimes you do. AJ, you were in the uh.

CT hardhead era of running backs and. obviously middle linebacker. Wasn't that. a combo? Like, hey, this running back. can catch good. Now it's like, yeah, of. course that's. >> everybody has to. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. And NBA hit on it's like the. matchups. I remember I mean Reggie Bush. in Detroit, they'd motion him out to. one. You got a linebacker running out. there playing like you're trying to get. in a weird little corner stance and act. like you're comfortable out there. covering Reggie Bush like running. routes. So yeah, it creates match. matchup issues everywhere. And these. guys now like they're so fluid in their.

routes as well. Like think about it. You. can you can get your matchups you want. You can make it like you can kind of. manipulate everything right here. Just. get the ball in space. It's like a It's. a lowrisk play and the dude can do. things like this with the ball and you. just boop your little It's basically a. toss sweep that golf throws to him and. he can take it to the house. >> Okay. So, you said you can uh manipulate. matchups. Can we explain that a little. bit more? So, obviously you got two. outside wide receivers. Those are going. to eat up the corners. Then you got. probably a slot in there that's going to. eat up your nickel. So, normally the.

running back is being guarded by a. linebacker, right? Isn't that kind of. unless they go to dime and then they'll. have a a safety kind of covering them. >> Yeah. And he's got to be able to tackle. in the box because you put that. personnel in, they're going to run the. ball on you. All right? So, if you're. trying to match up with DBs, they're. going to run it down your throat. That's. the beauty of having two backs. All. right? Are you going to treat this as. pony and play nickel? Well, that big. back's going to pound your ass. [laughter] All right? And if you try to. load the box, here we go with that. mismatch. That's the beauty of the chess. game of football. >> So, the running back being able to.

catch, that's why it was such a big. conversation, like, hey, have to have a. linebacker in here because we'll just. pound them if they don't. But if they. have the linebacker in here, he runs 47. We got guy runs 43, 44 back here. So. that's an automatic mismatch basically. in every style of offense or is it just. certain styles of offense? >> I think it's every I mean I go back to. Marshall Faulk who I thought probably. was the best running the football and. running routes. Uh then we had David. Johnson in Arizona who close at a. thousand and a thousand real close. Um. those guys are.

>> they're very very hard to find, but I'm. seeing more and more of them coming into. the league now. Joseph Adai, I was very. lucky to watch him work. He worked on. his routes like he worked on his cuts. and everything like that. And I remember. people around him talking about how. abnorm like some people were telling him. he was wasting time getting good at that. like as a running back. And he thought. like if I can get open Payton's going to. throw me to like that this I want to. >> I would like to shake the [ __ ] out of. these guys and get the ball from Peyton. He did just that. I'm almost got an MVP. in a Super Bowl. I mean he is you're.

talking about being an absolute beast. But that was whenever I was rookie. That's how they were talking. That's. 2009. People are talking like, "Hey, what are you doing this for?" almost. And then now it's like, "If you don't do. this, you're probably not going to see. the field." It's it's a interesting kind. of evolution of the position, I think. >> Remember, Le'Veon was doing it at 225. pounds and he I he was so. >> freak. Absolute freak. >> Yeah, he was awesome to watch play. football. I mean, that was just. >> he was real fun to to cover same thing. They would do that where linebackers. have him like it you have a twoon-one.

like me with the other backer and. Le'Veon's back there and you're sitting. there like man just please don't motion. out of the slot. Just don't send this. dude out. Third down. He just pops up. his little you know his little saunters. out there and I'm sitting there with. outside leverage looking my inside. I'm. like hey you better be hard inside. buddy. I am pushing him inside. We are. and he shakes both of us like all right. cool this is fun. He do that for. [laughter] four straight quarters. >> Terrible. >> Who was calling plays? Was that you? I. wonder if that was BA call. I didn't. have the killer bees. >> Okay. Uh Todd Todd Haley.

>> Yeah, I appreciate Todd Haley seeing the. milk check out there too with AJ Hawk. rolling on. Hey Lev. Yeah, we're going. to do that. >> We try to keep him in. You try. That's. when you try to keep me in. You go hug. You hug the A guy. Like I'm blitzing, buddy. You got to stay in, right? He. would never even honor us cuz I never. got to go. >> Never honor us. [laughter]. >> He never He's like I know. I've watched. film, bud. You're not coming. I know. If. you got. >> Look at me, bro. Look at me, dude. >> I'm coming. Here we go. >> Never honored us. What a way to describe. that. They never took us serious. Every. time [laughter] we showed, they never. honored us. They I'd have to get out.

from the O line actually or Dline and go. out. Go ahead, comment. >> Was Todd Gurley like that? Like Todd. Gurly the stats always come around where. it's like Todd Gurley would be fifth in. touchdowns going back to 2015 and now. like was he receive. knee disease or something? >> He was so good. >> But yes, he was definitely like that. >> Yeah, running back's a fun position. I. didn't even think about the way we're. kind of talking about it and the way I. think you want us to talk about it. It's. like the tight end position obviously. having a massive uptick for everybody. like hey need one running back position.

is that plus some because you can just. hand them the ball. Not that you can't. do that to a tight end but you can. literally just yeah. >> do this one here. Good for the running. backs. It was it was a little dicey. there for a little bit. It was. >> it was a little dicey there for a little. bit for the uh position. Congrats to. them. Now let's go to the second uh. statement of fact that they've been. saying BA. Yeah, Bruce, there's a lot of. chatter out there that every head coach. in the AFC North uh is on the hot seat. Is that BS or no BSBA? >> I think that's no BS.

>> This this was supposed to be the best. division in football. >> They got one team with a winning record. of four and three. >> All right, that's not good. And they got. to play each other that nine and eight. might win the division. Whoever wins the. division gets to come back next year. >> I think the other three are probably. looking for a job. Okay. Now, whenever. we put this together, this graphic, I. looked at that because you never really. think an entire division's head coaching. staff is potentially going to be changed. in one off season, you know, because. somebody has to win the AFC North, which. is kind of what you're saying at uh 9. and 8. But you look at some of the.

legends there, you know, like Tomlin's. been in the Pittsburgh Steelers a long. time. Harbaugh's been with the Baltimore. Ravens long time now. Obviously, Stfansky's been through it. >> Two time coach of the year. >> Yeah. Like four or five different eras. of the Cleveland Browns. And to your. point, two-time coach of the year. And. then Zack Taylor with the Bengals. There's like at the beginning this guy's. a doofus. Then he goes to the Super. Bowl. Yeah. With Cincinnati Bengals. This guy's a king. And now everybody's. kind of cooled off. All the fan bases. have cooled off basically on all of. these coaches. And uh I don't know how. loud and how long that can be. But.

whenever I saw this graphic and then I. start you were saying no, it's like that. would be wild if the entire AFC North. got a new facelift. >> That would be an insane thing. Especially for how traditional and how. historic the AFC North is as a whole. >> Yeah. And now the stats, especially when. it comes to Zack Taylor to your point, are coming out how, you know, the teams. that have scored 38 plus points in NFL. history are are, you know, 260, not the. exact number, but 266 and one and the. Bengals are 1 and three in those games. And they're the only team to lose.

multiple games that way. And so I saw a. lot of people more so kind of broaching. the question, hey, why haven't you. changed anything if this hasn't been. working? And here's a a stat from Hembo. for the defensive side of the things. Uh. which we can certainly visit here. Scoring defense of every division. This. is points per game that they give up. AFC North 27.4 points per game they're. giving up. >> Who put that emoji there? >> Uh that was Hembo. >> Hembo did that. >> Yeah, Hembo said uh it's a little. dookie, brother. And uh I'll tell you. what, you never want to be described as. dookie. That that's about as shitty as.

it can get. And uh when you look at. that, you think about the AFC North. It's a defensive. >> Yeah. division, which is why this. Cleveland's defense, Pittsburgh's. defense, Baltimore's defense. The only one that. we don't think about defense immediately. is Cincinnati Bengals, and that's. because they paid so much money to the. offense. But that's supposed to be a. defensive heavy grind and pound type. division. And then the stats come out. like, nope, not like that at all. And. when expectations are this and you come. in like this, that's whenever you know, potential jobs. But all these franchises.

are super slowm moving when it comes to. these types of decisions. Well, and. that's what I was going to ask you, BA, is like when you got guys like Tomlin. and Harbaugh who have been there for so. long and are Hall of Fame coaches, if. there is like a big faceelift in the AFC. North, do you think the talent pool in. the NFL like will they be able to just. replace those guys with ease? Because. that's what we're talking about in. college right now is like all these guys. are getting fired and it's like, well, are we going to be able to find good. enough? >> Who are the I don't even want to get. into that right now, but who are filling.

all these college jobs? >> That's what I mean. Like the talent pool. is just not there. like are you is the. NFL always going to find that next guy. though? >> I don't think so. I think each one of. these teams historically has been very. very consistent in what they do. >> And if who is behind door number two? That's your question. >> And if I got a guy that I really like. behind door number two, I'm going to. make a move. >> But if if it's just a bunch of guys, no, I'm going to keep my guy. He knows what. he's doing. He just had a bad year, you. know. But for this division, especially. if they lose in the first round of the.

playoffs or this division to get wiped. out that fast, that's not good. >> Yeah. The the who is going to be your. coach next. >> combo. Terrible. >> It seemingly comes after the final. >> You got to have some You got to have I. would imagine you only do it if you have. like one or two people in mind that you. really want to go after that you think. you could get. Right. >> We're doing BS or no BS with BA right. now. So, I don't want to get off topic, but like all these college jobs, who who. are they hiring? Who's everybody? Everybody has money. Okay. Everybody has. good NIL. Everybody has good.

opportunity. Who's And you, you know, you could add Virginia Tech into this. thing. There's a lot of good. opportunities out. Who's hire? Who's. going to get hired for all these jobs? >> Well, is it just going to be like. musical chairs and like the guys that. have gotten fired are just going to. >> James Franklin head to Florida. >> Yeah, exactly. Brian Kelly's bag of. >> P. He's a northern guy. >> I would rather do like the what Oregon. with Dan Lanning. like, hey, try to find. an upand cominging coordinator who you. know is well it's hard to know. >> So for the Steelers, if the Steelers. were to move on from coach Tomlin, which.

by the way, very unlikely unless coach. Tomlin wants to that that is just and. you know we say slowm moving, they would. describe it as patience and they judge. other organizations that make too quick. of decisions. They this is professional. football that's run by a bunch of. emotional amateurs that make decisions, split decision because they don't know. what they're doing. That is how it's. described whenever they hang on to. coaches. Yeah. That is what people say. about their facility. We are patient. We. build. We like to, you know, the. foundation to be strong in this entire.

thing. Now, the fans of those teams say, "I'm bot sick of this particular. foundation. I'd like a new house." But. within those buildings, they don't feel. that way. It's like, "Hey, this is our. house. We're very proud of it." So, who. would you want for, let's say you were a. Pittsburgh Steelers? >> Sure. >> And they were to move on from Coach. Funk. What type of coach would you be. looking for? because they go young. defense the last like three times. >> That was going to be my immediate answer. because they've had uh three coaches. since I think it was 68 or something. like that when Chuck Null was hired. And. obviously Cow was a young special teams.

coach, Tomlin, a young defensive coach. That's the where you would immediately. look cuz we're just that's just who we. are and we want our coach to be be able. to be there for 15 to 20 years. Um I. would not want a retread coach. Um, but. yeah, like a a young like someone who. >> Tomman is great. He's been a great and. he's been a great players coach. But. maybe that's hypothetical. >> Someone who someone who's maybe a little. more u stern. >> So Harbaugh now, let's say the Baltimore. Ravens. >> If they were to move on from Harbaugh,

who do you think Budda and the boys over. there would be hoping would become the. Baltimore Ravens? Great question. >> Bring Mter back. >> That would be that was what I was. listening to. >> Mter would be a dog obviously. And then. like the college conversation like do. you really look for a coach or do you. just look for the quarterback and then. tell the OC and the quarterback, hey. >> you're the head coach. >> You're the head coach. Bring him. >> hey uh good win by you guys. >> I can't believe him. I can't believe. Virginia Tech got Cal. Song of Botelli. is going to be a special uh. >> he's going to stay at Cal Ra's got him.

figured out. I don't want to get into. the cowgorithm for saying anything. negative but college obviously much. crazier. The NFL though I'll be excited. to see who the next ones are. that kind. of come through here. But an entire. division, especially like a historic. division, having all of their coaches. potentially on the hot seat is crazy. AJ. Hawk. >> Yeah. I don't know. I mean, that would. be wild if that did happen. But there's. I guess with all these opportunities out. there, like we're going to see some. young upandcomers that we don't really. know much about. Get get a chance like. get a chance. Hey, can you can be the.

guy? >> We'll see who it is. >> Halfley's been a head coach before. >> He's pretty happy where he's at, though. He want Yeah. He's got Micah now. Oh. yeah, like he's doing great. >> He's got Micah jumping off sides, pushing his D tackle off sides and. they're not calling it. That would be. fun. >> Exactly. >> That would be a fun thing to have if you. had it. >> It's perfect. >> There was one thing that upset me. watching that game. >> Okay. >> I've never seen the Steelers have to use. a silent count at home. >> Yeah, Aaron talked about that. >> And for the Steeler fans, >> oh no, >> that's embarrassing. >> Oh no.

>> I mean, do we have the Packer fans? And. I still call it Hinesfield, but it is. when when when is that that's unheard. of. Go Pack. Go. I mean, what? Go back. >> That was a bad sign for me. >> Well, their quarterback their. quarterback for 20 years. They they. bought these tickets years and years and. years ago. This they circled this this. game on their calendars for a long On. that note, I think you could circle back. to Pittsburgh is a football town. >> and uh Pittsburgh has seen a lot of. football over there that is not uh in.

their eyes Super Bowl football and. [clears throat] status quo has kind of. just snuck in as like, yep, this is what. we're doing. Now, on that note, Steelers. did vastly different things this. offseason. >> Yes. >> Paid a lot of money in DK, brought in. some free agents, brought in Aaron. Rogers. Like I think they tried to mix. it up, but I think Steelers fans are at. the point of like we're done with being. a winning season. >> Talk to a lot of uh fans who are leaving. that game like what are we even doing. wasting our time coming down here to. watch this product. >> Okay, that's where they're at. That's. not. >> scoring points though. You're scoring.

points. >> Yeah, >> agreed. But then they can't stop anybody. on So that's almost even worse. The. interest, oh no, we [ __ ] in our left. hand and we eat our right. That's great. That that is kind of how they feel. But. it's a fickle bunch. It's an emotional. bunch. >> Big- time football fans. But I think for. the last what, three, four years, it's. been like the same thing. Like, hey, we're done with the. >> since then. >> We're done with the nine and eight. Okay. Because we don't even get a good. draft pick. Yeah. >> We don't even get a good draft pick. So, we're about. >> It's kind of always in purgatory. >> That's what And Steelers fans know that.

they're in purgatory. I think I think. Steelers fans know. Not that that's. definitely the case for this year's. team. This year's team has enough. talent. They can obviously turn around. Defense can start flying around. They. can go win a Super Bowl. But I think I. don't think Yinszer's fans are [ __ ]. listening to that right now. I I think. they're like, "It's a late night on. Sunday. I gota work on Monday and we're. gonna lose." Like I don't think so, bud. That is how Yenszers probably think. >> And what sucks too, like the draft pick. for sure, but like Patriots fans are. getting it right now. Like you guys are. playing no one. You're playing no one. Like the benefit of finishing last is. you get an easier schedule. Like you you. do a couple years of last place. All of.

a sudden you're not in prime time. playing the pack. You're not, you know, taking on the Chiefs. They're in the AFC. North. That's always going to be hard. But like then you're out of division. games. you're not in a gauntlet. So like. the benefits of having a couple shitty. seasons is hey on the horizon you are. going to get an easier schedule and your. team will get better and then it's just. a matter of hitting on the quarterback. But when when you're looking at the. Colts, the Seahawks, a few of these. teams, it's like, hey, you don't have to. draft a good quarterback anymore. You. just need to get a better one. >> A lot of people are saying to us, >> yeah, >> Patriots and Colts, you guys haven't.

played anybody. And Connor, you were the. one that said, yeah, we sucked. We got a. shitty schedule. And I was like, yeah, we did. We we earned this. >> We earned this. What are you coming. after us for? We earn this thing. And. it's any given Sunday, it's the NFL. >> Yeah, it is. And like the Browns are the. third best defense in the NFL, but the. Browns aren't good when Drake May does. well. And then the other thing too is. like, by the way, this just all goes. back to nobody knows ball on the. internet. Like there's a reason coaches. don't go on the internet because no one. has a a [ __ ] clue what they're. talking about about anything, but.

especially football. Some people sure. I'm sure you could find them, but like. that that's the benefit that the. Steelers will never get. You know, it's. always focused on how the draft picks in. the middle, but like the other thing is. that schedule cuz the AFC North is going. to be hard no matter what. Division. games in general are going to be hard no. matter what. But if you don't finish in. that bottom two, you're out of. conference games are never going to be. easy and then you're going to be screwed. no matter what. >> And the Cleveland Browns for a long time. has said, "Hey, we're going to take. that.". >> Yeah. >> We're going to take that bottom spot. >> Okay. >> A long time. >> We're going to go ahead and take that. bottom spot. We're going to get that bad. schedule and we're going to do bad again.

so we can get it again. If we don't, we'll get rid of the quarterback who was. MVP was the rookie of the year. >> Yeah, exactly. >> Because you know what we want? We want. that bad schedule. We don't want. protect. >> Yeah. But instead of Baker, they get a. $40 million defensive end who just. [ __ ] and moans about the offense. every game even though he signed up for. it after requesting to trade. That's. even better. >> No, no, even better is you pay $230. million guaranteed for a guy. You. [laughter]. >> Oh, yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. You forgot Yeah. You forgot. that part of the whole thing that. they're still living under. >> Oh, yeah. >> And on that,

>> he might play this year. >> I saw him working out. Oh, >> I hope. >> I saw him working out. >> One game 200 million. I mean, that that. is what I call a contract, baby. Mooletta, hats off. >> Yeah, David Muletta is really always. doing this one here. You know, Jimmy Sex. season's currently happening in college. ball. Mullelletta season always cooking. >> Mhm. >> Who Who can I break a record with next? >> You don't show up. >> Don't even think about. >> Come here, Michael. >> Come here. Come here, Michael. >> You talked to Jerry W. What' you say?

No, you didn't. [laughter]. >> Conor's got the last BS or no BS with. BS. >> Yeah, let's move on from the AFC North. Bruce, the AFC South and NFC South. division races are over. >> Well, I think that's total [ __ ]. >> What? >> No. >> Guy was just on the [screaming] show. >> Seven and one, six and two. But the. teams behind him, they got to play. twice. They still got to play twice. That part of it is a lot of football. And the teams behind them are playing. pretty good football. So, >> I think they're going to do it. I think.

they'll win it, but I think they got a. they got a they got a lot of football. ahead of them. The Bucks need to get. healthy. The Colts need to stay healthy. >> Yeah. So, the Jags obviously in second. in the AFC South. Colts got uh Jags. twice. Uh Bruce told me that this. I. figured we'd already played Liam team. We have not. Okay. I I wish we would. have got him a little bit earlier. I. don't know what they're going to be at. this stage, but good luck to the Jags. They We got to play them twice. So, obviously that's a two that they could. pick up on us and two in the right. column. And then for the Buccaneers, who.

do they have coming after them? >> They got the Panthers twice. So, who is. in or in second place? And of the two, I. think both teams will end up winning the. >> Texans. They're starting to play a. little bit better. >> They certainly are. >> That defense for sure. >> Yeah. Houston Texans. CJ Shout, maybe. he's back. Maybe they're not ass. Okay. People aren't talking about them at all. Okay. They just beat the Niners. Yeah, it was with M. Jones. Did you see the. time of possession? What was the time of. possession for that Texans game? >> I believe it was 24-6 in the first half. if I remember it correctly. >> Think about that. BA.

>> I think it was like a record. >> Yeah. Since uh it was the most time of. possession in the first half, I want to. say since 2009. >> The Texans possessed the ball for 24. minutes and 31 seconds in the first half. versus the 49ers. That's the most time. of possession since 2009 when the Jets. had 24 or 50 time of possession versus. the Bengals in week 17. Good pull tone. That's a very good pull. That's like two. days ago. That's. >> And that's the big worry with the ners. is like sure M. Jones and stuff, but. their defense without Bosa and Fred. Warner just isn't the 49ers defense. we're used to anymore. >> Yeah. But on that note, Houston Texans.

offense might have had a wakeup game. You know, this might have been an entire. situation. And anytime you're dominating. that much, your defense is also. crushing. M. Jones and the boys. Quick. three and outs. Can't be happening. But. maybe the Texans are back. All right. That was BS or no BS for BA. >> Hell yeah. [applause]. >> AJ, a couple storylines happening around. um the NFL. Uh, did you see Big Dom. showed up for Scataboo? >> I did. I mean, Big Dom is everywhere. But, uh, I wish I knew this dude. Like, he this guy's awesome.

>> Yeah. I mean, just, hey, you're in our. city. Listen, least I could do. Cheese. steak pizza. We hope you're okay. Anything else you need, go ahead and. reach out. Not too much, you know, cuz. the Eagles Giants type of thing, but. just know that when you're in this city, we appreciate you. Then last night, he. was with Cooper G at the Sixers game. Yeah. >> Big Dom is Philadelphia. And I don't. know if it gets talked about enough a. couple years back when he gets kicked. off the field and they kind of go into. the [ __ ] Yeah. Big Dom is. Philadelphia. Does every team have one. of these guys that is kind of. representative of the team, the city,

and uh everything basically that takes. place around there? >> Yeah, I think everybody's got a really. good security person, but Big D is I. think top of the list. And I thought Tex. Randle was one of the best there ever. has been to. >> Yeah, I love Tex Tex here at the. Indianapolis Colts. Now, I think he. would take a cheese steak and a pizza to. somebody. I I think he would had been. told to do that, though. I I don't think. he's thinking about that. I think Big. Dom is kind of working the angles there. What a weapon for the Eagles to have. Now, on that note, Eagles win the Super. Bowl this year. >> Doesn't feel like it. >> It doesn't.

>> It's possible. It's definitely possible. >> Well, I like that you kind of stayed on. the fence. >> I had to think about it. I had to think. about it. Like, I don't know. I mean, they could, but they all Yeah. I don't. know. It's They're a weird squad. >> Does Big Dom win another Super Bowl this. year? >> Uh this year? >> Yeah. >> I'll go no. >> No. No. No. >> No. >> All right. I'm not going to vote. [laughter]. >> The other thing with Big Dom here that. we got to remember too, Big Dom saw what. happened. Okay. Hey, we got a great. Giants running back in free agency and. all of a sudden the Eagles are great.

He's seen Scataboo rookie year. He's. like, "Hey, Mara and them are going to. screw this up. We We are going to get. Scataboo eventually. Don't you boys. worry. I'll go get some Zaz and steak. and cheese for this guy.". >> He's pre-portaling. >> Preport. He's pre-portaling. We talked. about this yesterday whenever, you know, Lane Kein brought up the fact that his. freshman wide receiver has a good. Saturday and then there's three teams. calling him that night saying, "Hey, if. you just were to get into portal here in. a couple months, I think we got about. 1.5 2 million for you or whatever." And. Lane's like uh talking about how I. that's every week now. That is just kind.

of the modern world. So, these guys. understand that there's maybe teams that. are calling me ahead of time as well. He. said it's easier to kind of deal with. all that [ __ ] but that's crazy that. that's taking place in college football. Once again, we don't think it's right. >> We're just saying this is the reality of. the situation. AJ and Big Dom would. >> Hey, he pre-portal a guy. >> Oh, yeah. >> Tampering. >> Smart. >> Big Dom pre-portal. >> Big Dom makes it through all coaching st. whatever coach is there. Big Dom has. made it through everyone, right? >> Uh yes. >> Yeah.

>> Yeah. And it's not tampering because. they're both. >> not many people like that. >> What' you say? >> I say it's not tampering because they're. both Italian. I mean, it's just two. Italian guys sharing a meal helping each. other out. >> Is Scataboo Italian? does end in an O, but I. >> his dad's name is what? Leo. >> Leo. >> That seems. >> Leonardo. Leonardo. Yeah, I think now. we're talking. >> I think Boom Boom Scatter Booms. Yeah, Leo Scatterab Booms. I think he probably. >> We will accept. >> What's he own a pest business? Yeah, I. think he's a town. >> Hey, graci taken care of. Yeah. >> No, Cam Scataboo is not Italian. He's.

actually Norwegian with a little bit of. Portuguese. >> Portuguese close enough. >> Mike Pereira. Same situation. >> Yeah. Bingo. Mike Pereira. Uh, Portuguese man that we just call. Italian. It counts. He said it counts. >> Yeah. Well, I don't uh. >> He's honorary. >> Hey, shout out Scataboo and Dom. How. about Dom taking that to a Norwegian. guy? >> Exactly. Probably thought he was. Italian. I'm sure they did that. How's. your mother? How's your family? How you. doing? You know, and then realize. afterwards, oh [ __ ] kid's not Italian. >> Did you know he was Portuguese? >> Yeah, I didn't know that. Go get the. cheese steak.

>> Kid didn't even touch the pepperon. >> That is probably what he said. No E at. the end. No E at the end. I respect that. though. I appreciate that. Uh Wentz is. going to IR with a shoulder injury. Um. obviously played through it. This dude. >> animal. I mean this is part of the. Carson Wentz experience. >> Yeah, >> this is a part of it. Uh what are your. thoughts on Carson Wentz as the. quarterback? Because can I can I give. you mine? >> Yeah. >> As a non-quarterback whisperer. >> I think he thinks every play is supposed. to be a touchdown and I think he would. die on the field for every single play.

I think that was a good thing whenever. he was playing MVP like football with. the Philadelphia Eagles. I think him and. Doug and Frank had a good system going. over there. I think they had it kind of. wrangled. He came over here to the. Colts, every play was like literally. living or dying with. I have no idea how. his family was able to watch him play. for his entire life, just their hearts. and stuff like that cuz he looks like. he's either going to uh get severely. injured or have a touchdown basically. every single snap, like 67 snaps a game.

What are your thoughts on Carson Wentz, the quarterback as a whole? Obviously, he has a Super Bowl ring, but those. types of guys that every play is like. 100 or zero. How do you kind of manage. that? >> Yeah, I I think you do have to manage it. because you you want that mentality to. have him scoring every play. Uh but. don't make this great throw 20 yards. down the field and miss a wide ass. flare. >> The easy one. He misses too many easy. ones. >> Do that. >> All right. The consistency and his. accuracy is the only thing I would hold. back. um toughness, everything you talk.

about, he's he's off the charts. Uh. everything I hear, he's a great leader, all that stuff. But inconsistent. accuracies is to them. >> How about whenever like Andrew Luck was. kind of like this. Andrew Luck felt like. he was disrespecting football if he was. to give up on a play. Like everybody was. telling him like, "Hey, you need to step. out. You need to slide." And he said, "I'm like 6'5", 240 pounds. I'm fast. This is football. like his mentality was. like, "Yeah, right. I'm disrespecting my.

family. I'm disrespecting the sport if I. was to kind of bail out." How what do. you what is the messaging to people like. that? Cuz I think Carson has a similar. thing. Hey, Carson is willing to take. four hits as opposed to maybe bailing. out cuz he thinks he's disrespecting. football. Have you run into those types. of quarterbacks before? And what is the. message? >> A bunch of them, especially their first. and second year, trying to win over the. locker room. I'm a tough guy. Hey, you. guys can count on me. I'm tough. I ain't. running out of bounds. I'm And now you. see all these young coach quarterbacks. hurt. All right, they're running and not.

sliding. Andrew was maybe the worst. I. said, "Look, if you do you throw another. interception and tackle with your right. shoulder, I'm going to kick your ass. You only tackle with your left shoulder. >> Start d cuz he would die, >> dude. He would go try to kill him.". >> Yes. He was trying to decle people. Kevin Seaffort of ESPN reported Kevin. Okonnell insisted that Carson Wentz told. him repeatedly that he wanted to play as. long as he possibly could after injuring. his left shoulder. It had been a while. since he had played meaningful games. Pro OC went decided Friday morning it. was time to have surgery. All right. >> I can't lift this thing anymore. Cut it. off. >> I guess we should do surgery. How about.

Kevin O'Connell go the conversations we. had? They have them miked up. I'm just. like bud, I don't think you should go. He's. >> he. >> did it for [laughter] us. He did it for. our entertainment. >> And that's what Carson Wentz is. >> Like we have so much respect for him. I. think AJ because of that. But inevitably. I don't know if that wins a Super Bowl. at quarterback. >> Yeah. I don't know if it does but it. does. Yeah. I would much rather be that. way than the other way. Scared to pull. the trigger, checking it down all day, taking sacks. Like I like I love his. creativity and his his gutsiness in the. pocket, I guess. Out of the pocket. >> AJ Carson Wentz might want to uh dabble.

with a new profession. >> I think he'd be great at it. >> WWE. >> And can you sense it, ladies and. gentlemen? Can you feel it? Can you feel. it? >> No. >> What? >> I can't. >> Can you [laughter] feel it? >> Can you feel it? >> You're goddamn right. I can feel it. >> Con man, >> I can smell it. >> AJ, can you feel it? >> I'm starting to feel it. Yeah, >> it's almost Wrestlemania season. In. Vegas, baby.

>> They say in Vegas. Everyone's got to tell. A blink, a breath, a moment that can't be controlled. But the great ones, they use it to their advantage. They own it. They've got them right where they want.

them. >> The rest. just haven't figured it out yet. Wrestlemania Vegas. >> It's anyone's game. [groaning]. >> Can you feel it now? I can feel it now. >> You can feel it now.

>> AJ, can you feel that? There was no. Michael Cole in there, but they did have. a seat open at the end of the poker. table there. Maybe Michael Cole slides. in there. A lot of things. You see. Triple H Paul Haven behind Brock Lesnar. right there? >> A What's going on there? If it's. anyone's game and the seats open, I. haven't seen Max Crosby miss a game. ever, but he missed a he missed the. second half of. >> Oh, Max Crosby maybe because it's Vegas. You're saying maybe the Condors coming. out there to take over Wrestlemania. Vegas. We will say this as people uh. that were at Wrestlemania Las Vegas.

>> It worked. It was. >> smashing the goat. >> Yeah, it is the perfect city for that. type of spectacle. Obviously, I think. they're taking it international after. this year, which everybody was pumped up. about. But the Las Vegas Wrestlemania uh. last year delivered in a massive way and. uh that was sick. >> Yeah. Yeah. Unbelievable. >> Who was that AI? >> No. >> No, that was them. Why were they. >> the coin maybe at the end? The chip the. poker chip falling the way. I don't know. how many times they had to spin that. >> Yeah, probably quite a few. Why were. they playing in like a cavern in like a.

dungeon? >> No, it was the back of a casino. >> Oh, it was. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. It was one of those underground. games. We've been here. So, one of those. underground games. >> Yeah, but it's not. It's WWE, brother. You know, it's not a work. >> A seed underbelly. Yeah. >> Yeah. Now, at that table, uh Cody, I'd. be interested to see his style of poker. player. >> Aggressive. >> Yeah. >> He's a nightmare to play with. >> Well, he's an American nightmare. Is he. a poker nightmare? I'm not 100% sure. And then he kind of pan around there. Roman Reigns. Yeah, right. Look how. handsome he is. He's never gonna break.

>> No. >> And then CM Punk, he's saying he's the. closest to the table. He wants the. action. >> Yeah. He's splashing the pot like an. [ __ ]. >> Yeah. He seems he might he might be a a. pot splash. That guy there though, let's. go ahead and pause. Pause. That one. >> Yeah, right. You walk into a poker game, that [ __ ] thing is sitting at the. table. You go ahead and not play at that. game. You have no idea what's going to. take place. And that's why Triple Hal. are standing right behind him saying, "Is this what you want to do?" And then. who's the open chair? Who's got the open. chair? We find out Wrestlemania Vegas.

Wow. Think it's almost on sale. >> Brock's like a modern day boil Brunson. I don't know if he's Texas Dolly, but I. uh I do respect everything you're. saying. And he would play 72. >> Triple H and uh the um. >> dude, >> the wise man. >> The wise man. >> Come on. >> What were those two announcers names? Who did the. >> Norm? Yeah, that's those guys were. >> McCarron. Norm Paul. >> Were you a card player? >> Oh, yeah. >> You were a card player. Play poker. >> a little bit.

>> Uh spades. >> Okay. >> Oh, yeah. >> Uker. Not as much. 500 was a big game at. Pennsylvania. >> Like Rummy. >> Yeah. >> Okay. So you play Rummy. Yeah. >> You ever get into Tonk? >> Oh yeah. >> Tonk's good game. >> You play Bray? >> Very much on the plane with the players. >> Oh no. [laughter]. That's a little expensive. Cards. Cards. are almost under attack here earlier in. the week because, you know, the worst. possible things of cards were kind of. brought to full display. rigging of. games, you know, marketing to people,

getting big fish into a game and then. taking advantage of them. And then all. the different cheating conspiracies that. we've obviously learned this week that. are possible in card games are certainly. scary to think about in any card game. Cards are the greatest, though. I I hope. cards last forever. I'm worried that. there is a generation that doesn't play. cards, and I'm worried that this. potential scandal is certainly going to. scare people away from cards. Cards are. the greatest. I am a uh I love. >> brings people together too. It gives you. something to do together. You need. something to hang out and hang out with.

people that you're with. But I think it. might I think it might uh come back like. everything comes back. You know these. kids are into like nostalgia like late. '9s music right now. The big baggy pants. like kids are into older things now. going more like analog I guess. So I. think cards cards have hope. >> and it's tangible you know and and. Connor just said yeah they're playing on. their phone. They're playing this it's. like another game on their phone. It's. like, no, we need. >> we need physical cards. >> Yeah, we need we need that to happen. But nowadays with all the technology, I. don't know if you saw, somebody sent me.

a video of a guy with an iPhone. basically shuffling the cards over his. iPhone and then the iPhone told him what. number hand was going to win. >> I don't know that. >> Like two. It's like, all right, there's. the winner. Boom. There's the winner. Boom. Turn over. Guy flops a flush. It's. like Jesus. >> That's a problem. Yeah, that's not good. >> That's maybe technology is going to. kill. >> I don't want to do it. >> I refuse to have a moment of silence for. cards because of this week. >> Not yet. >> No way. I'm not going to do it. We need.

cards. >> cuz that's a small like that's such a. small portion of card playing societies. going to games like that. Like. >> cards are going to be fun. >> Yeah, but let's just We understand that. people can cheat at any card game. basically. >> Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. For sure. >> No chance you're pointing my way. If. you're a Hoffnom or if you own a pizza. place in Plum or. >> No, no, no, no, no. Those people are. very those are outstanding people. Those. are outstanding people. Those people. >> super Italian name. >> Yeah, there was a lot of Italian that's.

you know Cash Patel. I don't know how. deep he's diving in these poker games. My first reaction. Hey, let's not be. looking too far deep into these. I I. don't know what was just an Italian game. or sure. >> you guys are throwing them off anywhere. I don't know which ones I don't know. which ones are which here, but I do know. there was a chance I was potentially. all all of it. Please. [laughter] Thank. you. And please do not kill me as I'm. way out of here. I I owe a lot to cards. A a lot to Cards.

I hope we don't lose it. I hope we don't. lose it. What else is coming from this? You know, cuz Cash said that Stephen A. Smith was the dumbest person of all. time. >> He did. He did. [laughter] Okay. He he. came out and said that because Stephen A. said, "This feels like a targeted attack. at the NBA." And then Stephen A said, "Well, it feels like probably the WNBA. would be next." And then Cash said, "That's the dumbest thing I've ever. heard in my entire life." Is that. because Cash knows? >> I would imagine. Like I said, I think. this is kind of a slam dunk. I don't. know how much more we'll see, but I. would I think there are several more.

names. >> We're all very worried, right? We're all. very worried about like what else is. potential like it was this tip of. iceberg. That that is kind of what we're. thinking, right? >> Yeah. It happened. >> Scared of not not thinking. Scared of. that. >> Scared of it. Happened a day after the. NBA started. So for me, all eyes turn to. a day after college basketball starts. >> Oh yeah, there's a chance. Yeah. Especially if Cash wants to do a per. walk, too. Yeah. Go get them at the. hotel. >> Yeah. >> Call the cameras. Let's go and make that. happen tonight. Speaking of cameras, we.

got Frozen Frenzy. All 32 teams, 16. matchups, one night. Hockeyy's happening. all over the place. Don't look now. Pittsburgh Penguins might win a Stanley. Cup. Nick, quickly, what team should we. be watching for this evening? What games. are really going to lead the way here? >> Uh, on ESPN Maine, you're going to have. the Pittsburgh Penguins at Philadelphia. Flyers. Penguins are hot right now. Second best team in the NHL. And then. you're going to have the Washington. Capitals. Alex Ovetkin sitting at 899. career goals, looking for number 900. against Texas Hockey, the Dallas Star. >> And World Series tonight. Show Otani.

starting at pitcher and uh we'll be back. tomorrow and then Halloween's Friday. AJ, have you figured it out what you're. going to be yet? >> Not just yet. Still working. >> We'll continue digitally with Coach Ba. who we freaking love. He's got his all. BA team. Actually, we're going to debut. here in a matter of moments. Be a. friend, tell a friend something nice. It. might change their life. We're in this. thing together. We'll see you tomorrow. Let's enjoy sports, shall we? Goodbye. Really felt good about that. Felt. casual. Yeah. >> Let's enjoy sports, I said. Did you hear.

that? >> Beautiful. >> Yeah. Thank you, coach. Thank you, coach. And I didn't step on any of your. hurt. >> Yeah. >> You had a double cop, dude. >> Awesome. Was saving that. >> You were saving it. >> I'm going to [ __ ] my pants. [laughter]. >> Uh let's get to a break on the other. side. We got uh BA's all BA team. Middle. of the season here. >> Yes. >> We got Are we middle of the season. already? >> Close. Yeah. Close. Yeah. Like week. nine, baby. Yeah, >> man. >> Look at that. >> Nice. Nice. Is this what you want?

[laughter]. >> That's what you're getting. >> You can build that's a cool like uh we. could build a trophy that BA team like. that looks like that. >> Give these guys trophies or medals. >> now that we know. See, we know how many. people are on this team. So, we know. what you just tried to sign us up for. I. I don't know. [laughter]. >> End of season. Maybe end of season, you. know, maybe one. You get one trophy. >> for all. >> There's a lot of guys. >> We'll go on to Amazon. I'll try to build. it. Yeah. >> All right. Uh, we'll be back in about 5. minutes or so. You're going to want to. see this. I mean, we're giving out. awards. We're giving out game balls. I.

mean, we got a lot of [ __ ] with BA on. the other side. Be a friend. Tell a. friend something nice might change your. life. Take five. >> Byebye. >> Greatest power forwards. >> Is Dirk a power forward? >> Yes. Yes. >> No, the [ __ ] he's not. >> I know. Rings matter. >> Rings don't matter. >> Rings matter. >> You have to be a mean guy to be a power. forward. >> I easily could have put Dennis Rodman in. that list. >> How many is Charles Barkley? How many. rings? >> Zero. >> Oh. Oh. How many does Dennis have? Five. >> You do know KG goes both ways. >> Not that he doesn't go both ways.

[laughter] that way. >> What? >> I'm putting another current player. I'm. putting Yiannis on there. >> I'm done. Are we done here? >> Do we go? >> You know what? I think there's only one. thing left to do here. I've experienced. cafesito time. I've experienced the. wonderful culture. I've experienced the. beautiful people. And I think we got. some pains over here. We got some pains over here. [laughter].

We got some pains over here. >> This day in Coral Gables is going to be. one that I will remember for the rest of. my life. Ray Lewis started his dance. right here at Miami. Ed Reed started his. legendary run here at Miami. The legends of football run deep. The. moments are special. The national. championships are in abundance. Just.

last year, a lovely University of Miami, woman diver from Italy, won a national. championship. This thing's been staring. at me all damn day. You're lying, brother. You're crazy, >> Kirk. I'm a little winded. >> That's what I was going to say. [laughter]. >> The whole time you're running. I'll give. you a chance to catch your breath, man. You're crazy. >> I hope somebody got a lifesaver over.

there. >> My man's out of breath. >> It [laughter] is a long way. >> To the top. Jump in. >> Are you going to jump in there? >> Oh my god. >> Yeah. So, I'm tired for you. Oh my god. >> Oh, he's going to take the jacket off. Okay. Okay. Oh. Oh, he's taking the. shirt off now. All right. All right. >> Looking ripped. Looking. He's taking the. drawers off. >> Ladies and gentlemen, >> the drawers. [laughter].

>> Ladies and gentlemen, if you come to. this beautiful campus, you will notice. quickly that the students here love this. university. They love this atmosphere. and I'm with everybody. I think the you. is back. Give me [cheering]. [laughter]. the speedo. Oh my.

>> Give me the. [screaming]. Oh god. [laughter] Oh god. The canes, baby. [cheering]. >> Here he goes. >> Oh god. [laughter]. >> Here he goes. Feet together. Feet. together. >> I think that was the lead for the. pencil. There's got to. flashing it out.

That could be with a refreshing point. Miami and Florida tonight. Let's have a. look at that again. Check out the form, Herby. >> Perfection. >> Let's see the tone. >> We need just pretty good weight. >> Perfect. >> Perfection. >> Is my guy here named? >> Ben G. >> What is your major? >> Psychology. >> Okay. You're a psychology major. You. You're a deep thinker. Is that right? [cheering].

>> Yes, sir. >> Okay. Is that going to help or hurt you. today? You think? >> Maybe hurt a little. >> Okay. Okay. Well, I want to let you know. psychology wise, you should know that. there is a radiant energy of positivity. right to your left. Jelly Roll will be. [cheering] here helping out. So, Jelly. Roll said, "Pat, I want to try to win. hundreds of thousands of dollars for a. charity in Athens. I want to kick a ball. for $100,000 to give back to this. community that is embracing him as a. part of it.". >> And I think I'm fixing to split the. upright. >> Okay. How much weight have you lost now?

I've lost $250 lbs for this moment. George, I'm fixing to do it. [cheering]. >> All right, Ben, the kick is currently. $100,000 for you. If he makes it, it'll. go up to $250,000. We will also donate. $100,000 to a local charity, Jelly Roll. >> And I will match that $100,000. So, $200,000 to a local charity, baby. >> Let's go, Jelly Roll. Let's go, Jelly. Roll. Let's go, Jelly Roll. >> Okay. >> Herby will also toss in $100,000 to. charity, which is very kind of him. Yes,

sir. >> $300,000 for charity. >> All right. >> I was worried for my tongue. All right. What can I do different, Pat? >> I think you could try to aim to the. right if I were you. Or if you knew. somebody that was a very good kicker. I. think now would be a great time to just. go ahead and say, "Hey, why don't you do. that for me?". >> You know what? >> Why don't you raise some money for the. city? >> I'll make another 100,000. We'll make it. 300,000 to local charity. Okay, >> if you'll let me pick up the legendary.

Hot Rod from Georgia Bank here, baby. My. boy Hot Rod is in the house today. >> Hot Rod, it's great to see you. You look. fantastic. Thank you for your service to. the Colts. Can't wait to see you back in. the NFL. Okay, so he'll put up how much. you put up? >> $200,000 for a charity right here in. Georgia after. >> I'll put up $200,000 as well. Kirk will. put up 200,000. We got a $600,000. donation and Ben's kick will be worth. 400,000. This could be a million dollars. here. Hot Rod.

>> 33 yards. Hot Rod. Potentially a million. on the line. Million. [cheering]. [applause] Let's go. Let's go. >> Still got it. Still got it. >> Thank you, Rod. >> This is very expensive. Ben. Ben. Ben. [cheering].

Back to you. Back to you. >> During commercial break, there was no. way we were going to be able to get out. of that lawn out there without giving. him another shot. 100,000 bucks. He. knocks it through. Pump for Ben. Thankful for Hot Rod. >> Hey, let's go. >> This show sticks and the fact that you. listen, we are very, very thankful for. Mcaby on the line with a gorgeous. assist. >> The alltime leading tackler for the. Green Bay Packers. You pick.

>> Damn it. >> Your a friend. Tell a friend something. nice could change their life. [music]. sport. Hello beautiful people and. welcome back to [music] our humble boat. the Thunderdome on this BA day October. 28th 2025 [music] hour three of the. program begins now. >> football. is.

God you stuck it free. >> I think I got it off. >> I I think I got off [laughter]. >> you got it off. >> well yeah with some of these refs that's. AJ Hawk the toxic tables here at Boston. Connor and Ty Schmidt love the sweater. is that because the frozen frenzy. tonight. >> Yeah, I knew that was happening. That's. why I wore my Bruins hat and my US USA. US hockey sweatshirt. I I knew the. Frozen Frenzy was coming tonight. I'm. just so jacked up about it. >> I remember this morning you were like, man, last night I knew that this was. happening and I was like, you know what? Let's celebrate the hell out of hockey. >> Yeah, I told you like, yeah, I fell. asleep at the halftime of the NFL game.

Didn't watch a lick of the MLB game cuz. I'm so excited for the Frozen Frenzy. tonight, baby. >> It was a lot of MLB game. >> It was a lot of MLB game. AJ, I know you. watch that game. Whenever that thing. finally ends, 2:45 Eastern time, and. Freddy Freeman hits a dingdong to deep. center there. What is your immediate. thought? Like, wow, I'm gratified with. staying up for this. Is that what you. you said, AJ? >> I'm not going to lie, I did not see the. 18th inning, but I did walk out. I. checked in on it and I saw it in the.

14th inning, and that was the latest I. did see. I I did not make it to the. 18th, but I What a game. Hey, I'm I'm. actually very excited to watch Show. pitch tonight. >> Yes. very excited for this evening's ML. Maybe show pitches 20 innings tonight. >> That would be nuts. >> That would be crazy. If. >> there's ever a time to do it, it's. tonight. It's. >> the pitch count, Ty. What's the pitch. count for him? >> It's World Series, bro. >> Let him throw in. >> They'll let him throw 100, maybe more if. he's really rolling. >> How many innings is that? Six, seven. >> Yeah, it depends. If he's striking out a. lot of guys, probably Yeah, like five.

>> How many was Yamamoto his last complete. game? >> Uh, I don't know. Over over a hundred. >> Okay, good. Hey, do you know about. show's kind of uh tool belt? >> Pitch mix? >> What do you mean. >> his pitch mix? You know, you you know. when he has a penny sesh, what he's able. to do with the ball, do you do you know. what he's you know capable of this. evening in the World Series? >> Uh I do not actually. I'm hoping one of. you can explain it to me. >> Yeah. So, you know, whenever you're. you're doing a bullpen session, a penny.

sesh as you as you will, you know, you're working on stuff and he's able to. take that stuff from the penny sesh. right to the big leagues. Okay. He's. able to take it to the mount. He's able. to take it to uh. >> the the bump. Yeah, you can say the bump. end of the bump. >> Yeah, the bump. He's able to get it up. to the rubber. Yeah. He's able to get up. there and do his stuff. 36 in of. vertical differences. >> Okay. It's got a four seamer. 18 in north. Got a curve ball 18 in. south. Oh yeah, >> that's 36. What. >> the angle?

>> Oh, from the high slot able to hit put a. sinker down on you. Okay. Not a lot of. people are able to do that. Speaking of. east, west, >> you know, we're talking horizontal. movement. >> 30 in difference. You know, yeah, he's. able to make it go. So, we're talking. about north, south, east, west, all over. the place. So, batters have no idea. what's going on. And then when you look. at him up there, you're like, "Holy. [ __ ] this is an icon living this guy.". So, he's got that presence like he's. Randy Johnson up there. Okay, everybody's scared to death. Holy [ __ ]. I'm about to be the next show bait on.

show haze show real. And then you got to. deal with 36 in north and south, 30 in. the other way. And what's coming? Who. knows? Maybe the splitter's about to. drop out for the sky. It's a showtime. That's tonight. >> Yeah. Let's go. >> Baseball. Baseball is swinging a hot. bat. >> Oh, they are. They are. >> And they're throwing a great ball. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. It's been unbelievable. I mean, it. really was last night. >> Thank god the Yankees aren't in this, right? Ain't that kind of the the. thought that people are saying? I mean, personally, I I kind of like the Blue Jays.

>> There are not. I love 5'8 guy. >> Vlad is real cool. >> That guy's amazing. >> Yeah. >> How about the 5'8 guy just bopping. around me watching me watching him run. bases, I'm like, this guy, no way this. is supposed to happen. >> Type his name into the gift generator on. X. There's some good gifts of him. rounding third base, you know, hustling. out a double, you know, trying to score. from second. There's some good gifts. >> Yeah. Daba douches type stuff. >> Oh, yeah. Big time. Oh my god, I love. everything about. >> he now has the most home runs in a. postseason with five tied with big.

dumper from also this postseason. >> Wow. It seems like a catcher. Did I say. baseball's doing well? No, you didn't. But that's Yeah, baseball is doing well. Like you said, the the the stars are. performing which is the the big deal. You know, you got something for. Wobblebody. >> What happened? >> Yeah. Okay, there it is. [laughter]. Yeah. >> I. wanted to post that last night after he. hit his homer, but I said, "You know. what? I think they're making fun of this. guy with this thing. So, I'm not gonna. put it so and I don't like it. >> Me neither. Look at that stride.

>> Bruce put it on this screen right here. and just put on repeat. It was running. 13 times down here. >> Forced me to look at it. My eyes forc. tape. What's wrong with it? >> Dropped into my ear. He's on He's on. your screen right now. He's on Look down. there and guess what's happening. This. Okay. Yeah. I don't know if this. >> motoring arm swing leg drive. Look at. the foot on the corner of the bag. Perfect. >> Yeah. It's like a foot on the gas. almost. this guy coming around the bend. Yeah, they're not making fun of him. Thanks. >> I think they're making fun of. >> a stand up park home run. I was.

[laughter] going to say I don't know for. sure, but I'm guessing on that play a. relay gunned him down by about 100 ft at. home play. >> It's against the Yankees. It's coming. from Jazz World. >> Okay, so never mind. They definitely. didn't throw him out at home if it was. [laughter] against the Yankees. Never. mind. >> Who's your left fielder? >> Left fielder on that given day. I have. no idea when that's from. Could have. been Cody Bellinger. Could have been. Jason Dominguez. >> You don't think he gets him? >> No, without a doubt. Yankees don't do. that kind of stuff. >> Green light all day for him. >> Well, especially against Kirk, dude. >> Yeah, exactly. >> He's double shifting. >> Yeah.

>> Mhm. >> Double clutching coming off of that. thing. >> Doesn't need a light. He wasn't granny. shifting. I can tell you that. >> Good thing you can't run over the. catcher anymore. >> Oh, could you imagine. win? >> I mean, he's coming in exploding. Did. you see Debo talking to his kid? >> Did you see this? >> Yes. James Harrison. Yes. >> James Harrison talking to his boy who. I've seen on the internet. not recently, I guess, within the last couple years. He's huge. Uh, he is a absolute monster, his kid. And Debo is talking to him and.

you see Debo actually saying, "Huh? Huh? Right here. Right here. This is what he. he's literally telling they need to put. his forehead through the guy's chin is. what's happening." And there's like a. cell phone camera on it. And the. commentary was like, "Imagine getting. advice from Debo as a high schooler or. something." And then somebody commented. like, "That's his son." So like, imagine. Debo being his dad as well. But then I. was reading his lips. I'm like, it feels. like he's telling him to. >> explode through Adam's apple, which. that's football, baby. >> Yeah, he's a strap. He's a strapping.

young lad. So, >> yeah, he's study. Remember, they used to. do push-up cont. Oh, yeah. That house. used to. >> been on fire lately, too. >> What do you mean? >> He's saying a lot of good stuff. >> He also came out. Didn't he come out? >> Yes, he did. And then he was very. disgusted after. >> Why didn't he play? >> I did. Good question. >> And that's what everybody in. Pittsburgh's saying. Yeah, >> we got Debo coming out of the tunnel. Kind of getting everybody excited. Let's. Yeah, let's have him just. >> get the pads on. >> Go ahead and do that. >> Yeah, he knows what it's about. >> What's it about? >> It's about the name on your back.

>> You guys have the name on. I didn't see. that jersey. >> And the name on your front. >> Steelers in the back. >> No, >> but he said it's about both. >> Did he say these uniforms are shitty? Did you see those uniforms? >> Now you're wearing Virginia Tech. uniforms. A colors, which. >> beautiful thing. It's Halloween, so maybe it is. Only. team that has them. >> And some would say maybe a reason. >> Yeah, that's because nobody can keep up. with Virginia Tech. >> If God wasn't hookie, why the Leaves. turn orange right now.

>> Yeah, you're right. Football season. Good point. >> That's a good call. Hey, I'll tell you. what, that's good. That's a good sale. I. don't know what the next coach is or who. the next coach is. Needs to use that in. recruiting, obviously. Uh AJ, we talked. about that. I don't think um I heard. what you had to say. the coaching. Who's hiring? Who are all. these coaches? >> That's what I'm trying to figure out. Like there's gonna be a lot of people I. would assume hired that we don't really. know who they are and they going to have. to prove that they you're a great play. caller somewhere off. I would assume.

more offensive guys get hired. But yeah, I don't know though. Like who uh yeah, who like who can we go after? I guess. who can we who of these guys is going to. get recycled to another big job I guess. is another question. >> Coach Hartlin, right? Probably going to. be a hot name in this if we had to guess. with what he's done in Ohio State. Yeah, >> Arbuckle. >> Arbuckle certainly with what he was able. to accomplish with. >> who's a North Texas coach. The North. Texas coach is scoring a ton of points. putting putting up numbers. I heard 600. yards the other day. >> Yeah. What was it? What's his name? >> Colin Klein is the OC for&m who I was.

saying before AJ said North Texas head. North Texas head coach who I don't. >> Eric Morris is North Texas head coach. I. thought we were going to go do game day. there. >> North Texas. >> I think they got Navy maybe. Uh. >> cuz Navyy's undefeated. North Texas has. one loss for the AAC. Yeah, I was. looking um you know, I don't make that. decision. I'm not a part of the That is. not tough. >> decision this week. >> That is not uh something I'm a part of. I just go where I'm told. Uh literally. the the thought of. >> heading to North Texas. Are they playing.

Navy this weekend? Can we look that up? >> Yes. Navy North Texas. I got pretty. fired up about that. I'm like, where the. [ __ ] is North Texas? I I have no Denton. >> Denton, Texas. I did multiple games. there when Graham Herrell was the. offensive coordinator. I worked multiple. games and it's a great spot. >> I could not wait to get just because. every town I've been to in Texas is like. awesome and hilarious in its own way cuz. it's Texas, you know? So, it was like. going to Denton, Texas would have been a. I mean, the [ __ ] I would have had a full. I mean, I was so excited. Then Navy get.

opportunity to go in there. It was like, all right, North Texas is a real thing. But to your point, Tone, or to whoever. just said it, AJ, um AJ, I think it's. like you do good, you're going to get. >> Yeah. >> They're going to try to get him. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Who do you think goes maybe down? Do you think Chip Kelly goes back? Do. you think Matt Patricia might, you know, get a head coach and offer? Like, do you. think there's any of those that might go. from pros back down to college? >> Do have you ever met a guy that has been. a head coach, then goes to being a. coordinator? Life very good as.

coordinator, gets offered a head. coaching role and said no to that again. Wants getting a chance to do it again. Feels like everybody gives into the. temptation of being a head coach again. >> Yeah, I mean, especially now with the. money it is. I mean, it's crazy. And but. the coordinators are making three. million, >> two million. It's crazy. >> So Dana Hogerson's at Nebraska right now. with uh Matt Rule. He has said that he's. very much enjoying being a coordinator. as opposed to being a head coach. Was. head coach at West Virginia, then he was. at Houston. Now he's the offense. coordinator with Ryola at Nebraska. Now. they obviously lose again and uh you.

know, I don't think they have playoff. hopes this particular year. I think. that's going to be tough, but they're. still going to grow. His name might come. up in conversation, but he has openly. said like, "I'm really enjoying being a. coordinator." Feels like that happens. with coaches. Dan Quinn was doing it. with Dallas. Yeah, we're talking about. him going to Dallas. It's like maybe Dan. Quinn just says, "I'm enjoying being a. coordinator." Is it always just. inevitably the amount of money that the. head coach makes versus everybody else? And then to your point about. coordinators nowadays, is that changing. how people could potentially do it? >> I think it is, but I think the pride.

factor is still there, too. Uh Dan Quinn. did a hell of a job in Atlanta. Not let. go. Did a good job in Dallas. I'm going. to prove you guys wrong. >> Got it. Prove you guys. I got this. >> A guy like Josh McDaniels though that. went, you know, coordinator, head coach, didn't work. Coordinator, coordinator, head coach didn't work. Now it seems. like he might be on his all right, I'm a. coordinator. Whereas like a Cliff. Kingsberry, he went, you know, OC head. coach worked, but you know, it worked. out how it worked out in Arizona. Maybe.

there's other things we're seeing with. Jacobe Brassette now. And then, you. know, now he's an awesome OC. Does he go. back just cuz he's only done it once? >> Yeah, cuz he probably learned from his. first round, too. >> Yeah, I assume as well. But allegedly. last offseason, he didn't want to. Allegedly, he was like, "No, >> I mean, timing, you know, that's a good. spot where he's in like if if you're. happy where you are, why not wait for. the great opportunity that you want?". >> Ben Johnson, right? Yeah. >> What was it? Three hiring cycles. basically. He was like, "Nah, nah.". >> He had fa he had confidence in himself. if he bet on himself, you know, cuz you. we we see how quickly these guys fall.

out of the the interview cycle. If. you're a hot commod, all of a sudden, 6. months later, you might not be. >> Now, on that note about being a hot. commod, not being cold, Detroit Lions. lost both of their coordinators last. year uh from last year to become head. coaches. And uh we actually have uh BA. game ball. BA, why don't we start with. the AFC, your first game ball coming out. of week eight of the NFL season. >> My first one is Aaron Glenn. Congratulations to. [applause and cheering] the. >> first been close a couple of times and.

was a f 23 to7 in the fourth quarter. They outscored the Bengals and ruined my. prediction that the Bengals would be in. first place this year. >> Yeah, [laughter] you were obviously hot. on the Bengals and obviously we all. appreciate Joe Flacco. That game was. outrageous to watch. And then the Jets. come back. Obviously Bree Hall throws. that thing to Mason Taylor. I believe he. mosses in the back. They get a win, especially apppropo with Nick Mangled. and the entire storyline there about the. Jets and how all the Jets nation and. football society was feeling on that. particular day. Aaron Glenn gets his. first win. Always remember it. Is that. one of those things like you always talk.

about? You always remember your first. But for real, he will actually, right? >> You always remember that one and I'm. sure the guys gave him the game ball in. the locker room and uh you paint that. one and you put it in a very special. place. >> Yeah, because it's been uh not easy. Okay. It is it has been not easy to get. to this point. But to go back to. Detroit, Foxy, what were you guys the. first year that Dan Campbell was your. head coach? >> We started out 0 and 10 in year one. ended 313-1 and then in year two they. started out 1 and six and everyone. wanted Dan Campbell out of there. It was. a disaster to start that thing. And then.

after that 1 and six start, he got us to. 9 and eight almost made the playoffs and. then it's been history ever since. >> And they beat the uh Green Bay Packers. the last game of the year to knock the. Green Bay Packers out of the playoffs in. that particular year. And then since. then it's been number one seed Detroit. Lions and all that. >> Yeah, that was Aaron's last game as a. Packer. >> Yeah, but that first year you guys were. 0 and 10. He cried right after the first. win. >> cuz Oh yeah. >> He cried after the first win. And I. remember a lot of us going can't be. crying. You just won one game. And then. what he was saying through his tears. were like.

>> these guys man are working hard. Everything's good and then we just can't. win and then we finally get rewarded. basically is how he feels. I wonder if. Aaron Glenn feels that way as well. I. wonder if that's kind of what. >> I think so because they've been they. were real close a couple weeks, >> you know, and then and then you finally. get over the hump. Great halfback pass. call. Bree Hall pulls it down, throws it. back, touchdown, they win the game. So. great way to win. >> Yeah. Good for Aaron Glenn getting a. dub. >> Yeah. >> Hey, he gets a BA game ball. >> That's right. >> And for the NFC, the BA game ball of the. week goes to.

>> Anthony Nelson. Congratulations, coach. [applause]. >> Four tackles, two sacks, a force. fumbled, a pick six. Fourth player in. NFL history to ever have that stat line. >> AJ, I watched your uh I watched your. face as this name was uh unveiled. Same. reaction as all of us. Don't think we. all fully understood exactly who Tony. Nelson was, but then BA starts reading. off the stats and he goes, "If I was. read these stats and not say anybody's. name, what would you say?" You'd say, "Game ball, right?" Yeah. This guy went.

absolutely ham against this New Orleans. Saints team and uh his statline to BA's. point has only happened a few times in. the history. >> Yeah, I knew it was start to finish cuz. that forced fumble came on uh the first. drive for the Saints. Uh Bruce, is this. the greatest backup come into game. performance ever as well or. >> that anytime you put in the history of. next to your name is special and this is. only the fourth player in history of the. NFL to ever do this. Yeah.

>> And uh hats off to Nelly, man. He's He's. been a good player. But Hassan Reic goes. down. Time for somebody to step up big. in a big division game. Nelly did it. >> Yeah. Shout out to Nelly, dude. >> He was prepared. >> Yeah, he was. He was ready. We knew he. was. >> Pretty good school. >> Certainly did. He's from Walke, Iowa, and he is one of Kirk's dogs. He had a. lot of success with the Hawks. So, yeah, you're kind of just buying your time. You know, you know, and when I see that. happen, it's just like, oh [ __ ] here he. goes again. >> I heard Luca's getting some valuable. minutes. Speaking of Hawkeyes, just. buying their time. He is. He is. And.

it's about damn time. You know, unfortunately with, you know, it's going. to happen with Garza sometime. His first. game of the season, he gets a headbutt. about 4 seconds in, knocked one of his. teeth out. Uh, and he also got a. concussion. He's bloodied up pretty. good, you know, cuz that's what Garza. does. He is a junkyard dog. He plays. like a [ __ ] menace. >> Uh, he had to miss a couple games. >> Celtics. >> Boston Celtics. >> I did not know this happened. I just saw. I just saw that he was playing for the. Boston Celtics and I was so happy for. Tai, especially sitting next to Connor.

here in this entire relationship and how. the talks table could celebrate Luca. Garza. Tai's been calling for Luca Garza. to get some minutes on a good team for. five, six years now, maybe seven, 10. years. >> Yeah. Well, you know, just to just to go. over that real quick, there's a reason. he's getting minutes for the Boston. Celtics because they're one and three. But yeah, stuff like this is why Boston. will still be Boston even when they are. absolute shite. >> Do you guys stink? >> Look, it's it's a tough year right now.

Um, we're back to the drawing board. Got. a win last night cuz Zion's already. missing games. But, you know, that. [laughter] doesn't matter. We are one. and three. >> Is that the Pelicans doing that or is. that Zion? >> Uh, it was DNP, groin, back, insert, whatever [ __ ] you want. Um, but he. didn't play. But no matter what, Derek. White's still sticking his nose in. there. We got other guys that are going. out playing their [ __ ] ass off. One. guy, uh, Tony Millet, I think it was his. first game he's ever started. >> I don't know if that's his name, but it. was the first game he's ever started. He. got a steal, dunks a basketball, hangs.

on the rim, hanging out, hanging out, hanging out, falls on his back pretty. bad, but he pops up, gets back on. defense. They asked Joe Missoula about. it after the game. Joe Misoula said, "Well, he better get back and get on. defense because if he gets hurt there, he's never playing for me again." It was. awesome. Missoula's still got the boys, you know, rowing the boat, skium, ma, if. you will, whatever the [ __ ] it is. But. there there is a chance there there's a. chance here if we if we can just hang on. for dear life. The East is wide open. It's really just the New York Knicks. >> I don't think so, brother. Uh Sky, have.

you heard about M McClung signing with. the Indiana Pacers? We got Fury, TJ. McConnell, Mlung. >> Yeah, we got a milk check coming to. every town. Come watch Fund. put them in together. >> They don't have a choice. >> Absolutely. The Indiana Pacers are. signing guard Mcclung to a multi-year. contract. Greg Lawrence of Washman tells. ESPN. >> And with M. McClung and Obie Topphen. >> on the same floor, [laughter]. >> there's a chance that they actually jump.

up and high five above the rim and then. dunk it. >> Both dunking. >> Yeah. I mean, we're going to be good. What are the Pacers? Pacers are good. >> No, they're shite as well. Uh the team. the the. >> I don't believe that. Carl is the coach. Well, you can't be shite. Yeah, they're. real bad. >> We just signed M. McClung. >> Exactly. He hasn't played in the league. in a long time. >> Pacers are 0 and3. >> Oh, yeah. >> Yeah, they It's going to be It's going. to be a long road. It doesn't matter. though. >> Pacers are 0 and three. I We had to have. got one somewhere. Are you sure? >> Not Not yet. Maybe tonight. The Spurs.

are the story of the of the NBA for for. the time being. >> Web is outrageous. >> Yeah, it's it's ridiculous. Uh Steven. Castle, Stefon Castle, I never know. Um. he he's a superstar. He's rookie of the. year. Now he's a dog in their second. overall pick. Dylan Harper had 20 points. last night and he plays with a t-shirt. under his jersey and he looks really. cool. So look out for the Spurs. We got. a new Spurs dynasty homegrown players. growing. >> Yeah, cuz WMBB is a real deal. >> Yeah. And all all three of them drafted. Like they're they're going to be a.

actually they got De'arren Fox we. mentioned all pro player. Really good. They need to ship him out of town to get. bench players because they don't need. anybody else. Wimby if he stays healthy. he'll be Otani. WMY was shooting logo. threes, wasn't he? >> Pulling up. He had a He had a 360 layup. last night. He He decided not to dunk it. and he laid it in. >> It's hard for me around the rim because. I always like look at his feet and it's. like he's like debone and Uball, you. know, like he's he doesn't have to jump.

that high. His arms are there. So for. me, it's hard to be as impressed with. everything. Now granted, he's that tall, able to do all those things. That is the. impressive feat in of itself when he's. swatting everything and then he's. grabbing it and taking it down the court. the length of the court shaking people. Okay, he's 7 foot what? What? >> 77 is what there's he's listed 74 75 but. Bob Bond said he's looking up at him and. he's 7'5. >> So think about how high that Right. Dribbling is like here, right? >> Still growing. >> Yeah, >> dribbling is like this high.

>> Yeah, he's 21. >> Should be easy to steal because the. amount of. >> in in theory. Yes. instead he's like actually wiggling in. like shaking back. It's like that's the. [ __ ] that. >> I also need you to know that uh they. have another sevenfooter his name's Luke. Cornet and they're calling him French. vanilla together. So you just need to. know that nickname. >> Yeah. Like this [ __ ] that that's out. that that's 77 that's not supposed to. happen, you know? And then there's times. where he'll do a step back logo three. after doing this [ __ ] and it's like so. he's Steph Curry too? I didn't know you.

were allowed to do that. I didn't know. you were allowed to be Steph Curry as. well through this entire thing. >> And NBA Central reported, this is not. Central, it's Central cuz I double. checked because I thought it was. [ __ ] Uh, allegedly this off season, he was real pissed. Chad Holer won an. NBA championship and he used that as. motivation essentially all offseason. That that is a. >> that's why he went to the Monks. I need. to get this anger out. Can you hit me. with the thing? Um, speaking of. basketball, Rush [ __ ] X, this week's. episode is called Power Forwards. Uh,

obviously Shaq, Reggie, Ben, and Ari. debate the best four power forwards in. the history of hoops. What an. interesting conversation. We talked. about the running back becoming the new. tight end. The power forward is. basically the tight end of the NBA. In. listening to Shaq and Reggie discuss who. is allowed to be judged as a power. forward versus somebody who's just a. forward. I mean, it was great debate. Reggie Miller thinks about leaving the. middle of the conversation. So, there's. some some controversy in the middle of. this week's episode. Good episode, Foxy.

The boys cut together a great one and. Ari and Ben certainly hosted a great. conversation. >> Yeah, exactly. A lot of good discourse. about what a power forward is, like the. definition and all of that. Like Shaq. mentions, spoiler alert, he says Dirk. Dwitzky, not a power forward. I disagree. with him, but it's Shaq. He's one of the. greatest of all time. And then I will. say the very end of the episode, there's. definitely a twist that I didn't expect. at all that goes on their greatest. routes. >> Yeah, the show is very, very good. Ari. and Ben uh have put together a quite a.

lineup and uh Shaq and Reggie, I think. they're a little loose in this sit down. as they head for Dunkers. Great. conversation in basketball. Don't look. now. >> With We Wii being the future. >> and the young stars and if Zion can stay. healthy, maybe basketball is only. growing into its best place possibly be. with all the different deals it has. Or. on the flip side, we learn more about. what we learned earlier in the week and. everything goes to [ __ ]. >> Yeah. >> Yeah.

>> Scared of that. Don't love that. Certainly possible, >> but I hold on hope that the NBA is still. a great association and they're in a. great spot right now with their young. stars. And that episode of Power. Forwards is great. Nice trip down memory. lane. >> And that's why the Spurs are so awesome. because all their stars are 21 or under. And it's going to be real hard to for. any of that [ __ ] with them. Well, on. that note, the Pacers are going to be. okay. >> They're going to turn this thing around. >> next year. They're going to turn this. thing around next year. >> What if they get the first overall pick?

You know, cuz Tyrese is out and then you. just get like it be really good. >> Well, we know that's not how that's. going to go because how is that lottery? We're not getting not getting into it. Not this week. Not this point. >> Wow. You're right to add You don't want. to add that. Don't add fuel to the fire. >> Dump that. Dump that. There's no reason. for us to get to that. There's no reason. for us to get to that. Um, let's talk. >> Definitely random. Let's do um let's do. something celebratory. >> Let's do something exciting. >> Hell yeah. >> Let's do awards. >> Yeah. >> Let's do awards season here at the end. of October. Let's celebrate the hell out.

of the great that has been played this. NFL season. Ladies and gentlemen, it's. time for the all team. >> Yay. Now, coach BA was uh given the. opportunity to pick one AFC person and. one NFC person uh at a multitude of. positions and defense was just selected. as a whole. There was also two coaches. selected. Coach, why don't you go ahead. and give your AFC and NFC coaches of the. AllBA team first.

>> Yeah, I'm with AFC Shane Stiken. the job. he's doing at Indianapolis just amazing. with Daniel Jones turning him around and. uh. >> they've got that magic in the building. with Jim Mercles with with his spirit. and uh and they're doing a great job. with it in the NFC. I've got Todd B six. and two with plethora of injuries. They. need nobody needs a bye-week more than. they do right now. So that is my two. coaches at the halfway point. >> Congratulations. You will win nothing other than this. round of applause right here. Okay, let's go with the kickers. AFC and NFC.

all BA team kickers thus far. >> These guys are unbelievable that they're. so automatic. Brandon Aubrey, Dallas. Cowboys. He's going to get a 70 to 75. yard one of these. Agreed. >> Unbelievable. And Chris Boswell, who is. automatic on the worst field in the NFL. >> I mean, it's hard to kick. >> in Cleveland. It's hard to kick in. Pittsburgh. The grass is the wind. Aubry's in a dome basically do. But what. Chris Boswell does in in with Pittsburgh. is just absolutely automatic. >> Just a pure swinger down there. Chris. Boswell and he'll go for it. I mean,

he's swinging hard every single time. Mcmanis misses from 57 short. He hits a. 58 in the same game. Has to feel good. This is a 61 yard first week to win. against the New York Jets to start this. entire Aaron Rogers era. They needed a. 61 yard. Here's him from 56. Sorry, not. 58 the other night on terrible grass. It's just like he is always making There. was a contract conversation going into. the season that's kind of simmered down. He's the guy shows up for you guys every. single year. Yeah, you could pay him. literally anything you want after the. season is over. He is 14 of 16 on the.

season. His two misses is one the slip. at the end of last game because of the. field and then a block. Uh so he would. be perfect on the season if it wasn't. for those. >> And Brandon Aubrey obviously just. redefining what you're supposed to be as. a kicker, especially to start your. career. Murders the ball but always has. a smooth swing. Never seems to be out of. control and everything seems to be in. range. >> Effortless. It's just effortless. And. it's like I can't wait to see him one. second left. Try that 70 some yard. >> Yeah, >> especially with these balls. You know, it's a good time to be a good kicker.

right now. If you have a strong leg, this a good time to be a kicker because. of the balls. I was actually catching up. with your boy Jake who used to be a. kicker in the NFL. He said he was around. whenever they were doing the brand new. balls fresh out of the box into the. game. And [clears throat] he he. mentioned about how it's like 10 to 15. that's like 15 20 I think like actual 15. 20 yards difference, let alone height. and everything else. So, the fact that. they're able to use beat up balls that. they're bringing into the games, I think. we're going to see some special stuff. continue. Now, let's go to defenses on. the alla team. AFC is.

>> Houston Texans, man. They are lighting. it up on defense, boy. And uh now the. offense is waking up. That watch out for. the Texans in the second half of the. season. >> Congrats to Houston Texans [applause]. defense and the NFC side. >> Seattle Seahawks don't play them. Seattle, that's for sure. That this. front four is killing people. >> How do you feel about the way Macdonald. has kind of turned this entire team. around? They they painted over the. walls. Did you hear about this? Oh, yeah. Painted Over the Wall is a Legion. of Boom. We're a whole new era. Kick. Pete Carol out. Get Gino out of here. Every uh DK gone, uh Lockett gone. Everybody gone basically from the past. We're going to have to reinvision this.

except for Schneider who's been there. for both of them. I think I immediately. was like kind of turned off by like, hey, why are you painting over. tradition? You're you're a franchise. You're a team. You're not like a. college. Like, hey, this is a thing. I. think he wanted to reinvision it. I. think he wanted to do it his way. And. they certainly are. And the defense is. outrageous up there in Seattle. >> Doing a really good job. He's doing a. fantastic job. And Sam Darnold's playing. lights out. >> Sam's so good. >> He is. >> Yeah, >> he was there with the Vikings. >> Yep. >> Danny Dimes playing so good. We'll see. if they make the AllBA team. Okay, let's.

go to the tight ends. Obviously, it was. National Tight End Day on Sunday. Who. are the tight ends that have made the. AllBA team? >> NFC Tucker Craft. Big big game Sunday. night. Been lighting it up all year. Um. AFC, this guy's a freak. Tyler Warren, unbelievable. >> Congratulations, [applause] boys. Hell. yeah. >> Hey, Tucker Craft special talent. >> Unbelievable. I mean, he's everything. This guy could be a running back if he. wanted to be. It's amazing. >> I think so. I think he could probably be. wide receiver too if he wanted to, which. I he's perfect tight end. I guess he. runs so mad.

>> He does. And he takes their uh like tush. push snaps as well. They haven't done it. yet this year, but he was always doing. that. I I mean, outside of Micah. Parsons, he is their second best player. >> AJ, whenever you see Tucker Craft play, what's uh the first thoughts as you. watch? It feels like a throwback. explosive freak show when I watch it. Yeah, it does. Some of the stuff when. he's rumbling and stumbling, it's like. when Gronk used to get the crowd going, when Gronk would break nine or 10. tackles, like you would see what it does. to a team. What like this play, especially what it does to your. sideline. Like, and when you're a. defense watching like the film leading. up to this game, you know, your D corner.

is like, "Hey, it's going to take it's. going to take all of us to bring this. guy down, fellas. Make sure you we're. wrapping up and we need three, four, five, six dudes hitting him every single. play.". >> Yeah. Just as a Patriots fan watching, it's the first time I've watched a tight. end and been like, "Okay, that is. actually close to Grank." just cuz you. know Gronk and Kelsey much different. players when it comes to receiving and. blocking. Kelsey great blocker now, but. Craft is the one that's like, "Okay, this is actually Grank 2.0 in the NFL. now.". >> And the kip up just is I I don't I don't. think that can really go understate for.

how big he is. That. >> both pads too. >> Yeah. This and how quickly he does it. I. mean, that's just that's outrage. I I. don't think everybody fully understands. like the amount of athleticism and. explosivity you need to have in your. entire body to be able to pull that off. If everybody could do that, they would. Look how cool that looks. Uh that is. just a different athlete. And then on. the AFC side, boom, you got another guy. that could do that, which I think is. good for tight ends. Tyler Warren, this. dude, absolute monster. We saw him. coming out of Penn State. He was. obviously the second tight end that went.

in the draft. Everybody talked about. that cuz Michigan's Loveland went. He. has found a perfect home here in. Indianapolis with Shane Stiken and Danny. Dimes. >> Definitely, man. This guy's he's he's. like you said, he could be a wide. receiver. You can put him back there and. hand him the ball. He got our center run. the push push. I don't think he needs a. push. I think he can push the ball. himself. And uh yeah, outstanding, especially for a rookie. >> Always open. It feels Go ahead. Sorry. >> And I don't know if it's the hair, but. he reminds me a lot of Jeremy Shocki. >> Oh, I like I don't mind that at all if. he's got the dog Jeremy Shaki, which it.

seems like he does. The boys in the. building say he's just ball. All he. cares about is ball and uh we've loved. him coming here to Indianapolis. He's. always open, AJ. Always open and always. bigger than everybody else around him. >> Always breaking three or four tackles. Like the first guy very, very rarely. brings him down. >> Touchdowns all the time, too. Except for. this past week. Ain't that right, Bob? Made my touchdown parlay look like a. [ __ ] knob. [laughter]. >> We circled back last night. It hit a. nice home run parlay for,200.

>> Wow. 18 innings. That's a good one for. Barlay. >> Freddy Freddy Freeman was the uh the. winner at the end there. >> So, a lot of people saw the Gumpy tweet. that said uh Freddy Freeman walk off. here to win this thing is going to be so. cool. He said that in like seventh. inning or whatever and then people were. circling back to that obviously in the. 18th inning. Just Gumpy was a little. ahead of time. Gumpy was actually. pushing for his home run parlay right. there. All right, let me tell you what. the world needs. We need Freddy Freeman. to [ __ ] hit one here. Need need a big. one because we can smash Gumpy. First. time I've seen you since Sunday not. wearing Dolphins gear. Just want to let.

you know that I thought you were gonna. really run this one all the way up until. Thursday with not many uh maybe left in. this entirety. >> Well, Thursday I'm going full gear. because we got Thursday night football. So, it's probably going to be that sick. coat, hat, you know, maybe throw the. pads on. I don't know. >> Yeah, why not? How. >> get him some Dolphins pants? Yeah. >> Okay. I mean, we'll certainly get that. here. Dumpy, I can't wait to see you. wear those. >> Yeah, >> those pants. Yeah, the sambas. Absolutely. Um Gumpy.

said, "You know, you get victory week. and they even cut it short. It's only. four days. [laughter]. I don't even get to enjoy a full week. It only lasts until Thursday." Great. Everybody gets to go into the weekend. happy if they won the week before. I got. a Thursday night match up against Lamar. Jackson. Is that Is that what's going. >> back? That's great. >> Yeah. Hey, congrats. You guys won. >> Yeah. >> Let's celebrate now. Celebrate now. We. don't know if we'll have this on Friday. and Halloween. Okay, so the tight ends. are off the board. Uh let's head to the. wide receivers. Coach BA who was the all. BA team midseason.

>> The happiest guy to see Joe Flacco. Jamar Chase. >> Unbelievable. >> He's got like 40 targets in three weeks. and unbelievable numbers. Uh just. lighting it up. I think he had 10. catches again this week. Yep. >> And uh. >> guy's amazing. He's another guy once he. gets the ball in his hand, he is. electric. >> Okay. So when you go all team, obviously. you're not just going off of record and. how the team is doing. Why Jamar Chase? Uh because if you had a team right now. and you were to to field it and you had.

to pick two wide receivers from this. season, you would pick Jamar Chase is. one of the two that you would pick. Definitely. That is why he's on the OBA. team. >> Definitely. And he he's doing it, man. He's he's he's one of the stars that's. showing up every single week now. >> Not his fault. >> And they know that he's going to get the. ball and he's still absolutely killing. everybody. He's gotten into that Justin. Jefferson range that we kind of were. talking about last year. >> Yeah. He's offensive Miles Garrett. >> Bingo. Okay. Yeah. >> Stuck. Yeah. >> But also took the check. >> Yeah. >> And knew what was going to happen and. has shown up for them. Yeah. Always with.

injuries, too. Good for Jamar. Okay. And. in the NFC side. >> Well, for a young guy to only have. initials now, JSN. >> Yeah. >> I mean, he's already out there. He is. lighting it up. Sam, him and Sam Darnold. have a great connection going. >> Jackson Smith and Jigba, the NFC all. team player. I think you should be. allowed to do that, but obviously you. get people like Debbone that'll hang it, have it go cockey, then they got to stop. the entire thing, do the Hooers movie, line it back up. I think the NFL is. trying to get away from that. But if you. can showcase that you can just kind of.

base jump dunk that thing and look real. cool while hanging on a ref, you go. ahead and do that. And and that's a part. of Jackson Smith and Jigma's game that. we certainly like. And Jimmy Graham. getting a little bit of love on a prime. time game is certainly sweet as well. Coming out of Ohio State, everybody knew. he was going to be a guy. AJ. >> Yeah. I mean, they definitely expected. it and everyone at Ohio State always had. great things to say, but to go out here. and play like he has, I mean, I don't. know if you could ever predict this. >> Uh, congrats on making the AllBA team. >> Hell yeah, boys. [applause]. Baby, >> let's go with the offensive line boys.

Now, which offensive lines made the alla. team BA? >> The NFC Detroit Lions. I mean, they're. playing lights out giving Jared Goff. great protection. That running game is. amazing. And I like that they play five. or six of them in there sometimes. Mhm. >> Feels like Dan Campbell's always going. to have a good offensive line. Remember. their first draft pick was Pennne. whenever they were building this entire. thing up. Kind of set the standard. >> and uh and he he was a left tackle. They. still have Taylor Lean and he's playing. right tackle and [ __ ] He's out there. leading sweeps. He's. >> they going to throw him the ball one of.

these times. >> Penet throw the ball to him. >> Who the Pittsburgh Steelers throw to the. other night? 74 was like the first pass. Spence. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Just pitch. >> Yeah, it was pretty cool. Kind of hit. He looked very natural. And also I love. Aaron throwing. I think it just pegged. him, right? And and it was just like. >> broadside of Barney. Let me just go. ahead and peg this guy with this ball. I. loved everything about it. I like. whenever people get uh me too, you know, kind of creative. Detroit Lions always. have. They all have also always had a. very tough football team. And congrats. to their offensive line getting the all. NBA team. And then the Indianapolis.

Colts, which we all. >> Yeah, of course. Indianapolis Colts. I. mean, with JT doing what 80 yards and 12. carries or some [ __ ] like that and. [laughter] Danny Dimes lighting it up, but those guys up front are playing. They gota stay healthy. They stay. healthy, they're gonna be hard to beat. >> Boy, I think BA was potentially watching. in trenches to do scout for the all team. because these two teams obviously been. up there for uh the entirety of the. season. Foxy, congrats to your team's. offensive line winning an alla uh uh. nod. >> Yeah, this is awesome, coach. Thank you.

And if you remember before the season. started, we were pretty worried about. this O line because Ragna retired, Zitler left, and we had a lot of young. guys in there. So, it's pretty awesome. Congrats to you as well. >> Thank you. Jesus. Come on. What type of. place is this? >> Well, you know what's been in my brain. is like AQ really hasn't given you guys. a lot of respect. Even though you guys. are kind of on the list, you're never. top one like we are. So, hey, >> it's all BA day. Okay, let's go to the. running backs who are on the team. BA.

>> I mean, probably the two most explosive. guys in the league right now. Jamir. Gibbs for Detroit Lions and Jonathan. Taylor. Seems like line running backs. go. Congrats on your running back making. >> to you too Foxy. Grand standard. Hey uh. AJ, did you think the O line and the. running backs were going to go hand in. hand there? It seems to make sense. >> I thought Yeah, that makes sense. They. go hand in hand. Why. >> now? Cuz this is Sonic and Knuckles not. getting a nod here obviously on the NBA. team. We don't want to cause any.

friction in the Detroit Lions locker. room. But on that note, he is special. This guy's very dynamic. Jir Gibbs, >> especially in the passing game, he is a. total mismatch. And even a wide flare. turns into something. Every time he. touches the ball, something spectacular. can happen. >> Number zero looks cool, too. >> It really does. >> Yeah. I thought he should have worn one. >> You want to make this tackle in space. Good luck. >> Yep. Golly. >> AJ, what do you got to do? You just got. to shoot your shot there, right? >> I mean, so number eight, technically in. theory, number eight's inside leverage.

You got outside help. Like you want to. go through that inside leg and take a. shot. Good luck. It's Jir Gibbs. I don't. blame anybody for that happen. Like you. most humans can't stop run completely. full speed towards the sideline stop. jump cut back inside and still break. eight more tackles. >> So they got Jamir Gibbs, they got J Mo. up there. I mean they. dynamic. Almond Raw's, you know, 30 yards. downfield blocking on that first. highlight. That's that's culture. >> I'll tell you what, Mars is pretty good. And then let's go to the AFC side. running back all team.

>> This guy might win the MVP. Seriously, >> this guy might win the MVP. They're. talking about people because there. hasn't been like a quarterback that. maybe has run away with it. Maybe this. is the year that a non-quarterback wins. the MVP. He's what, four games with. three plus touchdowns. He's all over the. place. BA. >> unbelievable. I mean, again, Jonathan. Taylor is also a great receiver. You can. use him in the passing game, but 12. touches and whatever 80 yards he had, three touchdowns. I mean, that's that's. just spectacular football. >> And his celebration's cool.

Yeah, celebration's very very cool. I. saw a lot of people on the internet that. uh maybe aren't as athletic uh. throughout their life say, "Hey, I tried. this and it like blew my quad, my knee.". >> Yeah, you get hurt trying that one. >> Yeah, I didn't even think about that. I. mean, every time I've done it, I've done. it like kind of in place. I guess people. are actually. >> going full speed and then going in there. and then just [laughter]. >> don't do not do that. >> Yeah, we would like to send out a. warning. Do not hit maximum speed before. you just start to one hop that thing. Yeah, I I have not done it. I haven't. even thought about running and doing it.

>> No, maybe you should. >> And maybe that's because we have a. different mindset to people that maybe. aren't athletes. Like I knew my knees. would shoot out from underneath there if. you're going to hop on that, which makes. it even more impressive. He drags people. around. Then he, you know what, let's. make sure uh we flex out here and the. boys seemingly tighter than they've ever. been. Age had a Halloween party last. night. You heard Danny Dimes talk about. it. >> Yeah. Pretty good attendance, I heard, right? >> Yeah. He said he didn't want to keep. tabs on it, you know. I didn't I didn't. [ __ ] count it. >> I wasn't marking everybody.

>> Yeah, that's what he said. I was. [laughter]. Yeah. It's like All right. He said good. attendance roll. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. That's We got We got good [ __ ]. going on, bro. >> It's a real thing. That's a real thing. I people probably would overlook, but. yeah. Like if you had very poor. attendance to a a player Halloween. party, like if I was the coach, I'd be. like, "Oh, man. We got to figure. something out. This is not good.". >> AJ, I don't want to keep bringing it up, but I'm hearing stories about the boys. having beers with the boys. Okay. Like. I'm hearing a lot of those stories and. good. >> as a 38-year-old who grew up in a.

different time. >> To AJ's point, >> yes, this is this is this is just like. cards. This is just like cards. Like the. more you can be around and interacting. with each other at different states of. mind, hey, at different states of mind. is a good way to build up chemistry and. trust, I believe. Coach B. >> Totally. Yeah. One of the best teams I'. ever been on was Steelers Super Bowl. team. There'd be 30 cars in the parking. lot on Tuesday that they're in the. locker room shooting hoops, playing. cards. Nobody's watching film, but.

they're all in there together. Offense, defense, because they cared about each. other. >> Yeah, you need that. AJ, I hope that. never leaves in this uh isolated. disconnected world. I don't think it can. in football. I think you have to have a. relationship. But man, whenever you hear. about your team liking each other, I. think people need to take it a lot more. serious. We we've been talking about it. for like seven years, I think, on our. show. Like, hey, that team looks like. they like each other. That's a big deal. And I think people thought that we were. giving like elementary level um uh. opinions on things and it's like no no. no I think that means actually more than.

a lot of the [ __ ] that you're talking. about actually in a team sport AJ. >> Yeah because times like things will get. tough and it and every game there's a. there's usually at least some kind of. point where you can kind of go one way. or the other like the defense get pissed. at the offense because the offense isn't. doing anything or vice versa. And if you. like each other and you hang out and you. actually know each other well, you'll. make it through that and be fine and. you'll be laughing about it after the. game. Like if not you that's when you. get that infighting and you got to have. a stupid players only meeting the next. day and all that stuff. >> Whoa.

Those players only meeting are right. around the corner. >> Yeah, they are. >> Hey, we're almost in players only. meeting season. I just Oh. >> Uh oh. >> I just got pretty excited about. somebody's having one next week. >> Yeah. >> What? Week nine coming up. >> Yeah. >> Holy [ __ ] It is coming. It turned the. Finn season around though, right? >> Yeah. I forgot. >> They had one, right? Didn't they? >> Kind of. >> Yeah, because they had to apologize for. things that they said publicly. >> What other teams might. >> Somebody's defense just had one. >> Who's that? >> I'm not sure. There was a team that I.

think today, yesterday had a team. Somebody's defense. >> And he just looked at him. [laughter]. >> Is that true or. >> uh maybe? >> No. I think it was No, I thought it was. Steelers though. >> No. No. Okay. Sir, I heard somebody. doing it. I think, you know, players. players [laughter]. players gather as units. I think on a. regular basis, it's the whole. ceremonial, hey, we're all meeting in. team meeting room. No coaches, it's. going to be us. That player meeting, I.

think, is the one that we're all. referring to here. Whenever that starts. happening, >> [ __ ] mail it in. It's over. >> Definitely. >> I just got a word, uh, Cincinnati. Bengals just had a defensive only, players only meeting. Nice. >> You knew it. Didn't want to give it. away. Didn't know what all was public. That's BA saying something going, "Oh, [ __ ] We don't know about this yet.". Okay, maybe didn't happen. No, it did. happen. Cincinnati Bengals. Hey, that's. good inside. >> And for the Bengals, by the way, their. starting rookie linebacker got hurt. So, Logan Wilson, unpack your bags. You're a.

Cincinnati Bengal, baby. >> Unbelievable to think about what's going. on in Cincinnati. All off seasonason, we. talked about how they built their. roster, you know. >> Hey, you guys can't win like this. Everybody talked about it. Every Didn't. everybody talk about it, AJ? I think. everybody. >> Oh, yeah. >> They might be the last one standing in. the AFC. >> They might. >> Yeah. Okay. Ba. >> Whoa. >> 47 years of football coach. >> So, Trey Hendrick Anderson's out now. They got a middle linebacker who I mean, he'll he'll play his ass off because he.

wants to get the [ __ ] out of Cincy. Uh, and then who else do they have on. defense? I mean, they might. >> they had a meeting. >> They might win 45 to 40 going forward. That that sounds like AFC Northball now. AFC Northball right now might look. vastly different if you're listening to. BS or no BS NBA. Every coach is on hot. seat, he says up there, but there's no. hot seat in Indianapolis at the running. back position or the offensive line. Shout out to the Colts being on all the. awards of a. >> This is really good because for a long. time we were on the wrong end of the. highlights. That's what the Colts were.

for a while. Now we're on awards season. And let's go to the leaders of the team. Who were the quarterbacks on the. mid-season all team? BA. >> Yeah, we're going to go with a little. young and a little bit of veteran. Drake. May, New England Patriots is playing. great football. >> Got them in first place. And uh shout. out to Josh McDaniels. He's actually got. him playing really good ball. And then. Matt Stafford at his age still slinging. it, carrying the Rams maybe all the way.

to the playoffs. >> Congratulations, boys. [applause]. >> Well, boys, >> con man, it's not just you that's seeing. it now at this point with Drake May. That has to feel pretty good as a. Patriots fan. >> Yeah, it's great. Everybody's kind of. bumping their gums on TV now talking. about him which is awesome and just. regurgitating the same stats over and. over again. But Josh McDaniels to BA's. point and Mike Vrabel, you know, I think. they've just given him a lot of belief. He's always known he could make every. throw. Maybe last year he didn't have. that. Uh basically the same roster. You. draft a, you know, left tackle who will. Campbell, you know, it's only up from.

here because Miles Garrett's as good as. it's going to get for the rest of time. possibly. So very excited about the. offensive line and left guard Jared. Wilson kind of a sneaky part of this. entire offense. AQ will not shut up. texting me about this left guard. He's a. rookie from Georgia. He's been. fantastic. Offensive line's good. Drake. May spinning the pill. Uh and you know. as we approach trade deadline, you start. to think like who do we need? Who do we. need? Who do we need? We might not need. anybody to be honest. Just got kind of. have to stay healthy. We have not.

allowed one 50ard rusher yet this. season. That's unbelievable to hear. Shouts of Rabel turn the entire culture. quickly and Drake May continuing to. become an absolute monster in the. league. Remember him and Josh Allen hung. out. Yeah. >> And everybody thinks about like with the. size, the athleticism, everything that. he has. If he's able to go on the same. trajectory as Josh Allen, we're talking. about a new great. Well, it seems like. we're only a couple years into this case. study feels like he's on the same. trajectory. AJ Hawk. >> Yeah. Drake May, they found their guy. I. think with Josh McDaniels, it's really.

like he looks very, very comfortable. like looks like he owns that offense and. he knows what he is doing. Like he is. anticipating these throws and he he. looks awesome. >> Uh congrats to New England. You guys got. a guy. >> Yeah, he's 23. Like that's the most. exciting part. Like everybody this year, you know, no matter what the season ends. like, he's 23 years old. It's Rabel's. first year as a head coach. I think we. have the most cap space next year or the. year after. So it's just one of those. things, you know, that you're going to. be great for a little bit now. >> Drake's 23 years old.

>> He's 23 years old. Yeah. This is his. second year in the NFL. >> This his second year in the NFL. >> How old is Diego Pavio? >> 24. >> How old is Tyler Shuck that just got. drafted? >> 26, I believe, or 25. >> How old is Jaden Daniels? >> He turned 20 or I think he turns 24 or. he is 24 now. I forget. But. >> so Drake is wildly young. >> Wildly young. And he's already very. good. And something he mentioned. actually was, you know, everyone talks. about seven on seven being bad ball. if. it's good for anybody, it's quarterbacks. because they know, you know, how to. attack cover two, cover three, all those.

different types of zones. And that's. what he kind of attributed to when it. came to like. >> Oh, like growing up. >> Yeah, exactly. Growing up, throwing. those like little hole shots that you. see, the deep balls, especially, I mean, he's the best downfield passer in the. NFL. Everybody's talking about how you. have to dink and dunk. You don't if you. have a guy that can hit every single. deep ball when the chances present. themselves. Mike Vrabel gave this whole. entire thing like on the sideline before. the play they were doing the touchdown. touchdown touchdown and Mike Vrabel was. like relax and then you know 10 seconds. later it's a deep ball touchdown to.

Kanan Booty. >> unbelievable culture change up there in. New England congrats to them being all. the way back and then you talk about the. young guy 23 years old in his second. year already let's go to the old guy. drafted the same draft class as me 2009. number one pick overall I was 222 this. guy's outrageous still what he's doing. looks young still looks fresh as it's. coming off his hands. >> Yeah. I mean, he he spins it. Like I got. say a couple weeks ago, he's the only. guy go out and watch warm up. >> I literally a head coach assistant. I go. out and watch Matt warm up cuz he threw. balls that nobody else could throw.

>> Still doing it. >> It's like the Dano story he told. >> Just amazing. >> Yeah. Dan Olovski similar things, but. everybody Yeah. Whenever uh allegedly. Stafford told Olavski, "You can make. that throw. Okay. Nobody can make this. throw." And that was what Matt Stafford. was able to do. He's got a gunslinger. mentality. He's incredibly tough. He's. old school. Beers with the boys type. guy. And with Shawn McVey, it seems like. a perfect fit. And now they got Devonte. Adams in tow. AJ Hawk. I mean, it's a. beautiful setup out there. Is this guy.

going to play forever? >> Yeah, he he just might. Especially with. Devonte in the red zone, too, man. Like, I know they love talking about what off. platform throws and the arm angles and. everything, but when you the more you. watch, the more impressive I think it. is, especially with this. I mean, just. look at that thing. Like how he can. throw and his feel for where defenders. are and how he throws dudes open. It's. next level. >> Yeah. Matthew's been doing it for a long. time. And now for the first time, he's. on the all BA. >> Congrats, man. [applause]. >> Congrats, buddy. >> Congrats to everybody on this team.

Obviously, we take this squad over. anybody out there. And uh BA, thanks for. putting thought into that. Congrats all. these guys. They will certainly win. nothing but uh a big time right, >> right, BA? >> Oh, that's it, baby. That's all you get. A big one though. >> Big one. Yeah. [cheering]. >> AJ, please. AJ. Hey. >> It's your award. >> Yeah. >> Don't say we didn't give you nothing. >> Just like you told Danny Dimes. They. haven't done [ __ ] yet.

>> I do text Danny Dimes at every week. >> Every week. >> Congrats, man. That was so [ __ ] cool. God, you crushed them. You haven't done. [ __ ] anything. Just a text and then. the next text. You haven't done [ __ ]. yet, but you're smelling a little. better. [laughter]. >> Yes, you are. And on that note, we got a. guy who's really uh he was once a. pioneer in a game in Thunderdome and. then he's changed his style to no longer. be a pioneer. He's just amongst the. others. And he he is trying his absolute. best to become the greatest. And uh.

>> Debbone, why don't you come out here and. try to win some people some money here? Now this last week he threw one off the. backboard, off the brick, off the. backboard, and then splashed. And he did. that on purpose. And now today he is. dressed spectacular. I mean, he looks. amazing. Cowboy, how you doing, bud? Got. the boots on, got [ __ ] kickers on, obviously. Got camouflage hat. And you. know, we're getting to the weather where. he can wear the overcoat if he needs it. He had vest and hoodie and overcoat on. yesterday. First big man I've ever seen. that's overdressing everybody else in a.

place. But he is a special talent. This. guy can put together a graphic now like. a [ __ ] This guy's a true. talent. And we saw last week that maybe. he can have God bless his ball to fall. into the hoop. But I think what we had. last week that we need this week, BA, is. there any way you can try to motivate. this boy right over here wearing these. [ __ ] kickers to throw that Uball into. that 8 foot high hoop over there? And if. he's able to accomplish that, 25 people. will win $500 on this glorious BA day. >> Okay, brother. Now, you had the shot of. shots last week. We don't need that.

[ __ ] All right, just straight straight. in. [ __ ] it. Just make that damn thing. >> [ __ ] it, Debbone. 25 people, $500. [screaming]. >> Oh, airball. That's minus one point. >> Thank you, Debbone. >> He had the brick on the far right side. >> Yeah, he did. Come on, son. >> He could shoot it. He actually had a. good like when he actually shot it, he. Come on, son. >> One more shot, Debo. Here you go, Bone.

Come on, son. >> Why are you throwing it still? Cuz you. want to be a pioneer. Is that what you. want to do? You want to You want to. continue your life as a pioneer? He used. to throw it. He's first one to throw it. Actually, a lot of people attacked him. for throwing it early. Turns out not a. bad style. >> Yeah. >> I actually utilize it as one of my three. throws. Much like show I have a array of. different throws in you ball, but he he. had been shooting this particular ball. Coach, he seemingly changed his [ __ ]. whenever there was a little bit on the. line. How do you feel about that, coach? >> Uh that that's shaky. That's shaky. But.

I think you've been practicing a little. bit. I've seen you. >> All right. You got this [ __ ] bro. Do. it. >> [ __ ] it. 25 people. $500. Debbone. [screaming]. >> All right. Maybe tomorrow. Maybe next. week. Uh we appreciate the hell out of. you, Debbone. And before we get out of. here, uh we have to make uh one special. moment for somebody very special in our. lives. Ladies and gentlemen, this man is a New. York Giants fan. This man is a New York. Yankees fan. He's a New York Knicks fan.

I think he also likes some other sports. that are over there that aren't good. >> He's a Tottenham Hotspurs fan. >> He's He's been in the middle of some. shite for a while. >> Every day he comes in though with the. same what attitude. >> Yeah. >> And uh his vibe's always immaculate. He. works his ass off and his hair is. finally getting a chance to kind of peek. off. >> Yes, it is. >> Ladies and gentlemen, we have a birthday. today. Happy birthday, Bruce. Happy. >> Thank you, boys.

>> Happy birthday. to you. Happy birthday. to you. Happy birthday. Happy birthday, dear [singing]. Bruce. >> Happy birthday [singing]. to you. >> I almost said Matt. >> Yeah, >> think about that. Yeah. >> Happy birthday, Matt. >> Happy birthday, Matt. We have a birthday. every day this month or.

>> It does feel like a lot of cakes coming. in. A lot of cakes coming in. >> Yeah. Got a lot of October babies in. here. But thank you, boys. I appreciate. very much. >> So, you're not October's very. Everybody's kind of October. So, but on. that note, we're [ __ ] thankful to. have you, buddy. Happy birthday. >> Thank you, man. Appreciate it. Appreciate all you guys. >> This next year of your life is about to. be the coolest. Actually, >> yeah. Oh, yeah. >> As we forecast, >> big 30, baby. Here we go. >> You just turned 30. >> Yeah. >> Oh, no. Conor, tell them. I pulled a. muscle coffin driving into workers. >> Welcome to 30, brother. >> That's 30.

>> I know it, brother. >> No, but there's good coming, too. There's good coming, too. Oh, yeah. Of. course. Right. >> Prostate exams. >> I just turned 73. Shout my age again. So, >> happy birthday, [applause] PA. >> It's going to be a while before you. shoot your age, though, [laughter]. >> yeah, you more than you can imagine. >> Happy birthday, Bruce. We appreciate. you. All right, let's get the hell out. of here. Oh, >> good ball. Great ball. That was in. >> Hey, not bad there.

>> That was in. >> I'll tell you what, I did have a. thought, man. [ __ ] Quarterback. whisperers literally right behind me. >> Sure. >> Would be sick to make this right now. >> Tomorrow better day though. >> Boom. >> Be a friend. Tell a friend something. nice. It might change your life. We're. in this thing together. Team on me. [snorts] Coach, anything to say? >> Great show. Better win next week. >> Hell yeah. AJ, we'll see you tomorrow. Team on three. One, two, three. Goodbye. [clears throat].