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to the CFP. So, you're talking about a. big day for college football. We'll chat. with Tone about that and other things. And also, week 11 of the NFL season is. wrapped up already. man. >> Hey, right now, look around. Feel it. Okay, sense it. Weather's kind of ass. here. Yep. In Indianapolis is a little. bit too cold, >> but it's not hot enough. It's kind of. making your heater and air conditioner. set on auto really not know what to do. >> Messed up. >> And if the sun accidentally comes out. and it's going to get through your. windows, it's going to cook your house.

And then your heater is going to be on. because outside is cold. And then your. house potentially going to be 78 79°. So. all of a sudden it's cold as hell. outside right now, freezing, but inside. too hot. You see? So then what do you. got to do? You got to turn on your cool. now. Okay. So now it's 78, 76, 77. I got. to turn on the cool cuz I can't do this. I can't fall asleep. What is going on. here? Then all of a sudden you wake up. Guess what? 61 degrees. >> Yeah, cuz outside right now it's 15°. So. So you get the you get cooked through. the sun, through the window, you see, and then the actual coldness of outside. cooks you. So you wake up in the.

freezing and then at some point it's way. too hot. It's football season, baby. Hey, we are in the middle of it. We are. in the prime time of everything that. football fans look forward to during the. off season. Whenever we're watching. basketball, shout out to the NBA. When. we're watching baseball, shout out MLB. When we're watching hockey, shout out to. the NHL. And when there isn't. >> F1 F1 watching F1, >> you watch that. We don't. I'm trying to. do a thing for we here. >> We.

>> Yeah, but that would include me saying. that that I don't watch AG1. That's not. an US thing. >> Yeah. It would be like Okay. So, when. we're watching hockey the Frozen 4. >> Yep. >> When you're watching. >> F1. >> Okay. >> Yep. There you go. >> See that? That's how that would go. >> Okay. I like that. >> So, I apologize for not acknowledging. that. I I should acknowledge that a. little bit more. Coach Ba, when you're. watching the senior PGA Tour, >> okay, we're all yearning for football to. be happening. >> Yeah. >> We're all yearning for meaningful. football to happen. And ladies and.

gentlemen, week 11 of the NFL season has. finished. That means all eyes are on the. postseason. That means all eyes are on. who's really in this thing and whose. season is now just going to become a. season that's set up for hopefully next. season. Ladies and gentlemen, last night. was an emotional win for the Dallas. Cowboys. We appreciate the hell out of. that particular Monday night football. game, especially with how special it all. was as everybody was kind of paying. their tributes to Marshon Neland, the. Dallas Cowboys player who uh took his. own life, I believe, is is what is being. reported uh last week after having one.

of the greatest moments he could have. accomplished in football with a. touchdown on Monday Night Football and. then just days later ends up taking his. own life. So now there's tributes kind. of reigning in all over the place as. there should be. Not only about Marshon. Neland, but the entire conversation as a. whole about checking in on your friends, checking in on your people. And his. people, by the way, were the Dallas. Cowboys. And they had an emotional. spirit about them last night that was. pretty dominating of the Las Vegas. Raiders all night. Debut, what happened. in that game last night for those of us. that maybe missed it because John Cena.

was maybe. >> Yeah. last time Madison Square Garden. >> or maybe the game got so out of hand. they didn't finish the entire What. happened last night in Monday Night. Football through your eyes? >> Yeah, as we know, Monday Night Football. in Vegas, uh Cowboys were favored by. three and a half points and the game. kind of started off like it might be a. KG affair. You had Max Crosby, the. candle, coming off the edge, getting a. strip sack, and the Raiders, they were. fighting. They were battling at home, ending the first quarter, uh leading. actually the Dallas Cowboys six-3. But.

then Dak and the Cowboys got rolling. Started finding his guy CD Lamb who was. missing for the first drive. Maybe got. caught that Vegas flu maybe. >> Yeah. What happened to him and George P. >> Yeah. But you know what? They got going. So when they did get in the lineup, Dak. started to find him early and often. 88. got going. Uh Jake Ferguson, he got. going. He got in the end zone as well. And then George Pickkins, they traded. for George Picking and he's been an. absolute stud. Making big plays all up. and down the field. He was a Mitch match. all night long. He had a big night all.

night. And then Javvante Williams, he. had his Cowboys season high, careerhigh. with this team uh with the carries and. he dominated the game on the ground as. well. And then that defense, we saw uh. Jerry in his box grinning like the. butcher's dog after Quinnon Williams. made a big time sack. He had one and a. half sack. Already trumped what he had. in the uh as his Jets as a Jets player. this season. He was big time on the. front end and then on the back end had a. interception as well. Boom. Gino, he's. been kind of he's been unlucky. He He's.

been. >> There's a lot of unlucky Gino. >> He's been unlucky. We talk about. turnovers. We talk about tips and. overthrows. Sometimes it's off. defenders. Sometimes it's off his own. guy. Brock Brows is kind of that only. bright spot for that offense, but Gino, I mean, with behind that offensive line, I know he catch a lot of heat. He can't. throw the ball. Genty, he barely got any. runs. You see him boom, got stuff for. it, safety here, and this game just got. out of hand. Became an absolute blowout. It was too late to switch over to Monday. Night Raw. This one got ugly. Started. out like it was gonna be good, but it. ended up being a blowout.

>> Yeah, but at the end, did you see. >> what at the end of this game? >> Was there an on-site punt? Is that where. >> after that safety? Yeah. >> Yeah, there's an onside punt. So, after. the safety, this was. >> Okay. Now, I was not awake at this stage. of the game and I do apologize. I I'm an. old person. I caught up. I see this. attempted. I love everything we're doing. here. I love everything we're doing. Okay. So, listen. You can't uh kick a. kickoff after a safety. The ball can't. be grounded or whatever. Used to be the. rules. I don't know what they are now. with the new kickoff and everything like. that. I think I saw people kicking off.

every once in a while. Normally the. punter would be the one that would. actually go out after a safety and kind. of launch it and then you would have the. kickoff coverage for the entirety. It. would be happening from the 20. There. was always a conversation about having. to have an onside punt just in case this. situation was to take place. And it's. not a bad idea. And they actually got. the outcome they were looking for with. the ball hitting the ground. Now Dallas. Cowboys wave for a fair catch which is. the right answer. And if one person. waves for a fair catch, they all wave. for a fair catch. to one person on the. uh receiving team wait for a fair catch, which is actually a smart move. They let. it hit the ground, though. Soon as that.

thing hits the ground, >> fair catch is off, right? >> Hey, we're live ball right there. So, it. almost works out to like what you're. actually looking to do. For me, it was. always going to be a knuckler. I was. going to try to hit a knuckler because. you don't have 11 guys on the field that. are used to catching punts. So, you get. a couple people that are out there that. are comfortable catching punts. So, what. you're trying to do is hit one that's. tough to catch. He had a banana ball. which would come down sideways on this. thing. So, right decision by the Cowboys. returner to wave for a fair catch. >> Smart. >> Them letting it hit the ground. >> Not smart. And then uh them ending up.

picking up George Pickkins getting it. and then ending the game. Good finish. >> And you never had an opportunity to. actually do this at the game. >> No, you very rarely get the opportunity. after a safety to hit one. But uh yeah, it is something that I've I've seen. before in the past and that that was the. Raiders. I know the coach that used to. be there. >> I think he probably had that thing. worked on a little bit if I had a gift. Tom McB. Hey, he was the best coach I. ever had for the job that I did. He made. me much better at my job. I think he. Vinnie would say the same thing. I think. our boys would say the same thing. We. created something called fourth down.

army with our crew. It was full by we. were trying to really change games. And. Tom McMahon, this little ass dude from. Montana with a steel plate in his head. because it fell off a horse as a child. You see, fell off a horse as a child. Uh. cuz he used to lead horse hunting, I. believe, uh through the trails of. Montana. Grew up on a horse farm. And uh. actually as a child as he was uh coming. back he fell off hit his head off a. creek I guess uh had to get a a surgery. has a steel plate on his head. So if. you're around any service his ass is. going to affect you know but he is just.

an absolute dog of a coach who has been. a football guy through and through and. will be forever. He was our special. teams coordinator. He got fired. Now. their special teams have not been. performed well and that that is a part. of the job. I I think he probably saw. that one coming as well with how it all. goes. But he definitely had that in. there to work it. So, I saw that happen. last night, late last night. When I woke. up this morning, I was like, "Was this. when Tom's here? Was this last night?". I'm like, I'm like, "Good for Tom." Cuz. that is certainly something you work on, but never really get the opportunity for. it to actually pay off. Now, on that. note, let's talk about the actual game. >> Mhm.

>> Coach Ba, 47 years known as quarterback. whisperer. You've been around every. quarterback out there that's ever been. good at the game, basically. You know, that also says you're old as [ __ ] but. also, hey, still killing it. Look at the. fit right now. Look at the fit right. Let's talk about Dak Prescott in this. offense. It feels like we expect Dak in. this offense to be great, but we never. expect the Dallas Cowboys to be great. Why is that? And what do you think the. conversation is about Dak Prescott as. quarterback of the Dallas Cowboys? >> Yeah, there had to be inconsistency with. the group, you know, the offensive line. because Dak can light it up and he's one.

of the best leaders there is, but he can. still spin it. And with Pickkins and CD. and William, he got they got weapons. Ferguson, it's got to be up front. You. know, there's games where they can't. protect him and the defense is getting. better, but they haven't been able to. hold on to any leads either. >> Four, five, and one now are the Dallas. Cowboys. And obviously, we'll have. something later chitchatting about all. the NFCs. The NFC East obviously with. the Philadelphia Eagles is going to be. tough, but the entire NFC as a whole. Who knows what the future holds for all.

teams have to play against a lot of good. teams. So, there's gonna be a lot of L's. stacked by teams that are good right. now. Or the Dallas Cowboys. They got a. lot of people back. >> Yeah, they got there's a chance that. they. >> there's a chance Dallas Cowboys do this. thing and make a run and now will they. actually be able to win in the playoffs. is the massive question. Quinton. Williams not only getting a sack last. night and saying hello to the Dallas. Cowboys. Also fixing a shoe, lost his. shoe, just so calmly puts his foot back. into his cleat, gets back up and does. his thing. What a perfect fit for the. Dallas Cowboys. And you talk about. getting a safety. Jerry Jones says, "Now.

that's. >> getting safeties. You think we're ever. doing that before? We're getting. safeties on runs because we can stop the. damn run. Jerry Jones's entire plan. whenever he traded away Micah Mak at the. time is what he was saying was to stop. the damn run basically. That was his. entire goal. Everything he talked about. You bring in Quinn, you get this. defensive front maybe playing a little. bit better. All of a sudden, are the. Dallas Cowboys for real? Do they have. the makings of being a team that can. make it? They got one of the best. kickers ever exist. >> Yep. >> Punter been around long time. Good. punter.

>> Returners always going to be good we. think in Dallas because they draft. speed. That feels like something that's. always going to be good. Offense, we. think Dax should be good against. everybody, right? Don't we all think? >> Shotti's a good coach. You know, it's. his first first opportunity being a head. coach, so it'll be definitely be some. learning. But you have the talent. You. got a franchise quarterback, highest. paid quarterback in the National. Football League. Getting Quinn like that. up front, that's a big deal. Getting. overshould. be good. Malik Hooker also missed five. games. He was back. And at some point, you expect him to get Travon Diggs back.

I think Devon Bland, he had a really. good game as well. So, if everyone's. healthy, they can definitely make a run. We know where the Eagles are in that. division, but they can kind of battle. for that wild card spot. >> Eagles at home next for the Dallas. Cowboys. So, obviously that's a big. deal. The Dallas Cowboys are saying. we're a different team now than we were. back at the beginning. And the Eagles. obviously in the middle of a another. Super Bowl push. We think this is a huge. one for the Cowboys. We'll learn a lot, I guess, coming up. Dallas Cowboys. hosting the Eagles. >> Yeah, Logan Wilson also looked great on. that defense, too. But uh for Dak in the.

Cowboys versus the Eagles, I'm pretty. sure, and maybe I'm remembering it. wrong, but doesn't Dak have, you know, astronomical numbers against the Eagles. in comparison to other teams that he's. played consistently? Like he usually. plays his best ball against Philly, which is a great sign for them at home. after, you know, Marshon Nean and. everything. And after this, like that'll. be their first game back at Jerry World. That it could be huge. >> Uh Gino Smith with the Raiders, we just. talked about it. He had a postgame. pressure uh that went like this.

>> I keep saying this, man. If something. don't look right out there, blame it on. me, right? If it don't look right, blame. it on me. That's that's that's all you. can do. Blame it on me. If your kids. mess up at school, blame it on me. Car. break down going to work, blame it on. me. >> Sounds like Gino saying, "I haven't been. taking a lot of blame for stuff." And. that's rightfully so. I am paid to be. the quarterback here. Uh what are your. thoughts on the Raiders and what are. your thoughts on Gino Smith season? has. a lot of picks. Like his his sports. books bets and odds for to throw a pick. are like almost becoming just a lock is.

how sports books view it. But I've. watched a lot of them strictly because. Gino Smith, West Virginia guy. Happy for. him with the run that he has had, the. way his career has ended. And I got a. chance to see whenever they played. against the Colts, it's like people are. making plays on Gino that are like. highlight real plays against him. couple. of these picks, then there's a lot of. deflections that are happening and maybe. that's on him for the deflections taking. place, but also it feels like he is. under duress on a very regular basis. What do you kind of view of Gino Smith. with the move to the Raiders for him? And uh what do the Raiders need to do,

you know, to become a team? Because you. know what I would like them to do? Let. Max Crosby. spread his wings and fly [clears throat]. >> in the playoffs somewhere. >> Yeah. Fly away. Exactly. >> Yeah. Let let the condor. go and spread those big ass wings and go. be on a game that gets 49 50 million. eyeballs on it. Okay. In those playoff. games. >> Yeah. >> Could you imagine Max Crosby in a Super. Bowl? >> Come on. Imagine somebody never seen.

[laughter] Exactly. >> Sorry, I can't. >> BUT BUT BUT JUST CLOSE YOUR EYES. SUSPEND REALITY FOR JUST A MOMENT. He. gets traded to a good team. Okay. A good. team. >> The Rams. >> Oh, somebody anybody that needs him. The. Colts maybe. >> Even Patriots. Yeah, anybody. Not Jeez, obviously, you know, not to pay Colts. would be cool, okay? He gets to a. [ __ ] Super Bowl, okay? And there's. somebody in the world that has never. seen ball before. First time they're. happening upon their life. Just Okay, Super Bowl. Who knows what country. they're in, >> okay? They got Starlink. First time.

having [ __ ] internet, okay? They're. doing this entire thing. What is this? This is a Super Bowl. Holy hell. They. have their eyes on football for the. first time. >> Say Lamar Jackson's playing quarterback. They. >> see a little more. What is that? We watch soccer here. What. is going on here? And then on the other. side, fully tatted cockazoid mountain. resident. >> Sickest, cleanest cleats on earth all. the time. Just nonstop havoc, chaos all.

over the place, every single snap. They're going to fall in love with the. sport like that immediately. For the. good of ball, we need Max Crosby to be. on a team that has a chance to go win. And that's my final kind of PSA to. football. We need this guy on a. contender. We need this guy on at least. a team that has a chance. Now, Raiders. fans are going to say, "Tawn Brady's in. the building. We're going to flip it. around.". >> Mhm. >> Pete Carol's here. We're going to flip. it around. >> Chip Kelly's fresh off a national. championship. We're going to flip it.

around. Does I don't know if it's it's. flip aroundable. I I just don't, you. know, it might just be a football gods. thing. I I don't know what it is because. all the moves seem to be smart. >> Every decision seems to be the right. decision. >> Bring in Pete Carroll, known winner. We. need somebody that has a little bit of. Ha. How you doing? Everybody will buy in. and believe. Let's do that. Tom Brady, the greatest of all time, is going to be. in our building. And listen to this. With his other job, he's going to be. able to go into other building. [laughter]. >> Yeah. >> They're going to stop him from doing. that. He's going to be able to call. around. We're going to get investors. that are very high level. We're going to. Vegas. Everybody's going to want us to.

succeed there. We're going to have brand. new stadium. Nicest stadium maybe in the. league. people would talk about. >> beautiful. >> everything seems smart whenever you're. doing it and then just for one reason or. another [clears throat] every year it. just doesn't really work and it's like. I'm tired of Max Crosby just kind of. being held back cuz him in January. >> Mhm. >> him in February we just talked about it. >> Yeah. >> Somebody's mind getting blown in some. country that's never seen ball before. because this human exists just in. general. I mean we need it be are they. fixable? And what do you think about.

this offense that Chip Kelly's running? A lot of people talking about Genty only. getting the ball like seven times or. whatever last night. Like why are they. doing that? What is that decision-making. process? Is that because they can't run? Like what are your thoughts on the. Raiders? >> Yeah, they need a lot of help up front. But for me, when your best three. receivers or three tight ends, you're in. trouble. You're in trouble. Yeah. If if. you can't run it with three tight ends. and you got the best young back in the. in the league, maybe um it's got to it's. got to be up front. Got to get some some. better stronger, faster guys up front. And defensively they show at times.

They're they're good at times and Max is. he's the best as highest motor in the. league. But for me they got to get some. top-notch wide receivers and that's. going to help Gino a ton because he is. forcing the ball to guys in tight little. windows all the time. >> Yeah. But I mean top-notch wide. receivers like yeah those grow on trees. They don't like they need to use what. they have. Like no matter what I I get. it. You might be down by 30 in the. second half and a running back might. only have 10 carries, but Ginty had two. carries in the first half. You always.

mentioned, you know, hey, by November, by Thanksgiving, rookies need to be up. to par. They need to be able to play. And Ginty has played a lot of good. football. I think I saw a stat uh. yesterday actually that he actually only. has one 20 plus yard carry the entire. season. He had 25. That's what I'm. saying. Last year, >> it all seems right. >> Yeah. And and that's why like it's not. J's fault. Anybody who just goes on. there and says, "Oh yeah, it's all. Gino." Like, "What's Gino doing? Gino. sucks." Like, okay, that's not what the. field is really reflecting. You can look.

at the box score and say that, sure, but. you're not actually watching the game. And just real quick, I really wish I. didn't think of this. Max Crosby is a. Joe Thomas at defense. >> No, >> no, it's. >> what he is. That's a good point. >> Yeah. Miles Garrett also. >> Oh, yeah. He's That's just the Browns. Yeah, that's a good point. >> I mean, Max Yeah. >> Yeah. I guess you could this you could. slack you can have a bucket. >> Yeah, >> I guess there can be more than just one. And I assume we could find maybe other. Joe Thomases. But Joe Thomas is the one. who was what all pro like 16 straight.

years or something. >> He had like 12,000 straight snaps like. didn't have a hold or something. >> And then he came on the show and said, "Every year I thought we [laughter] win. Every year we thought didn't even play. in the playoff game.". >> No, >> he was so good. Think about the mental. toughness on that guy. >> To be the best in the world at something. while also not really getting to reap. the benefits of it really, but still. still just locking in and going. What an. animal. >> Yeah. >> Max Crosby. >> Yeah. Also, what an animal. >> Miles Garrett. Absolute stud. Go back to Jason Hansen.

>> Yeah. >> On the Detroit Lions. >> Stud wanted to go. >> Barry Sanders. At least he got to the. playoffs. >> Yeah. >> Calvin Calvin Johnson, >> man. Don't do it, Max. >> It's commendable that he wants to stay. there, but I mean, what are we doing? It's it's time. Okay, especially when. you look at that division. Like, that's. the thing is they are miles and miles. and miles and miles behind the third. play. The the Chiefs are the third place. team in the division right now. Look. what the Broncos are doing. Like, are.

the Chargers all of a sudden NEXT YEAR? >> GIVE TOM SOME TIME. OKAY, >> but but does that matter? I think. >> maybe he plays. Maybe we Jackie Moon. this thing. >> Exactly. Maybe that's the only way it. gets going. Maybe the other owners. >> of the Raiders need to come together and. say, "Tom, as an ownership group, we've. decided that you need to play. quarterback [laughter] cuz did you see. him last night?". >> Oh, yeah. >> He looks good, dude. He does. >> He's aging backwards. Benjamin Button. almost. This guy, he's phenomenal. >> But that is that like I think we all. just assume Well, Brady's a constant.

winner. Like he'll turn that around and. we forgot like he's not playing and he. can't play every position. Their line. sucks. It's awful. And it's been like. that for multiple years now. I mean, yeah, he looks sweet. Throw up a picture. of Mark Davis real quick because that's. also I love the guy. I do. But it's just. he's not he's just not a [ __ ] serious. guy. He's just not Look what he's. wearing. Look what Jerry's wearing. And. Jerry is bombastic. He's outlandish. He's crazy. But he's an owner of a an.

NFL team and he knows, "Hey, I should I. should maybe just throw a suit on.". >> WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? >> YOU DON'T LIKE MARK DAVIS WITH THE. JACKET? >> I LOVE IT. I LOVE IT. But are you ever. going to look at that guy and be like, "Wait, why is this guy who was sitting. at the Bellagio sports book for the last. nine hours? Why is he on the, you know, the field at Oh, wait a minute. That's. Mark Davis. He owns the Raiders." Like, it's. >> he's relatable. He. >> very relatable to a eight-year-old who. wants to sit in on the couch at his. parents house and play Game Boy and eat. chips all day. Like, it just.

>> it's a good life. >> We've been t and maybe part of this was. on us, too, because when they hired Pete. Carol was like, "Don't look now." Brady. Carol, this John Spitech guy who went to. college with Br. The Raiders might win. 10 games this year. That was maybe the. dumbest thing collectively we've ever. thought of. >> That was a we thing. >> It was. It was too. We were all Jenty. We love He was on the show. We love. Jenty. >> Hard not to. But it's just like you. watch them and every week it feels like. they are farther and farther away from. being a team that is figuring it out. >> Hey, they'll figure it out. All right.

[applause]. Well, some at some point in time in the. future, they will. >> And congrats to them for that. >> They they've been there before. >> They've been in the pinnacle before our. time. >> Rich Ganon. Sign Rich Ganon to come in. play quarterback. >> I bet you he could still give a good. >> Oh, yeah. [snorts]. >> might fall off, but. >> Yeah. >> I mean, he's No, not Rich Ganon. That'll. >> pop out. Pop. >> That's his actual That's his new pump. fake is actually dislodging his. shoulder. Yep. And then bring it out to.

He used to skip rocks. >> Oh yeah. >> And he I mean he was ba rich. >> Oh yeah. So good. >> He was a beast. He had arm talent like. out of the. >> first first kit I ever offered at Temple. as a head coach. >> Wow. >> And he turned around and beat our ass. [laughter] at Delaware. >> He went to Delaware over Temple. Yeah. Oh [ __ ] Coach, >> he wanted to get out of the city. >> Rich game want to focus on ball. >> Love Richie. Love Rich. >> Philly guy. >> Oh yeah. St. Joe Prep. >> Makes sense. True. Uh speaking of uh that part of the. state, we have uh Kevin Brown from.

Harrisburg joining us in the second. hour. He's uh one of the top ranked. offensive linemen in the history of. ranking things. He's uh going to be. announcing his commitment on our program. today. And on that note, would love to. congratulate uh Virginia Tech on hiring. James Franklin. >> I know you were a part of the consulting. group, the advisor group. That's amazing. news. Congratulations to you guys. >> Yeah, really really pumped up. There's. great great years ahead of us at at. Virginia Tech. I think. >> I know you don't want to feel like. you're speaking for the group that did. the hiring, but you were a part of the. group that did the hiring. James.

Franklin, you guys, it felt like there. was rumors for a long time. You guys, as. soon as you saw he was available or in. the market, that is who you wanted, I. would assume. James Franklin, very. accomplished guy, perfect for Virginia. Tech right now. >> Yeah, he was a number one pick all the. way. You know, his record speak for. itself. Been in the Mid-Atlantic for a. long time in his career. Great. recruiter, especially in Virginia. And. uh yeah, hopefully bright bright things. are in the future for us. >> Congratulations to you guys. That's a. big deal. >> Huge. >> Yeah, James Franklin I think everybody, you know, Penn State people right now.

are like. a lot of pity parties for James Franklin. happening on TV right now. Okay. You. know, whenever he came on College Game. Day just a few days after he was fired. from Penn State, boy, Penn State alum. were not happy about that. Oh, okay. Yeah, this guy just lost the game. Northwestern at home and you guys are. going to have him on here and make us. feel bad for doing what we had to do. Basically is what Penn State people are. saying. But on that note, Penn State. people as they get further and further. away from the situation, just like I. kind of said to Coach Franklin on the. set 10 years from now, 15 years from.

now, 20 years from now, the way they'll. look back on the James Franklin era is a. guy that I think stood in the fire with. them for them and kind of flipped them. into what they are now. Now, they will. say that James Franklin wasn't able to. get them over whatever hump that he was. able to get them to this particular. altitude. He is saying, "I want to pick. up and just take the national. championship to our next place from. everything that I've learned somewhere. else." He seems hungry and very eager to. get back to coaching. And uh I think you. guys got a great one. I I'm a big fan of. his after meeting him multiple times.

>> and getting it done now. Like there's. already kids that were committed to Penn. State and of course some of them, you. know, were lost. But I've seen multiple. guys tweeting out about how they've. received an offer from Virginia Tech. Obviously probably going to follow James. Franklin there. Who knows who is at Penn. State right now who's a freshman that. might say like, "Oh [ __ ] I can go to. the ACC and play for Virginia Tech." And. you know, I just talk about paths to the. college football playoff, especially. with what's, you know, coming out. tonight. The ACC is a little different. than the Big 10. they might have a much.

cleaner path than what they would have. had and what they have had at Penn State. in the past. >> All right. Well, before we get to Tone's. bracket, we got a chance to catch up. with a coach whose name is obviously a. topic of discussion everywhere down. there at Old Miss. Joining us now, the. head coach at Old Miss, a man who's. obviously the topic of discussion in a. lot of different cities, and it should. be because his team's in the middle of a. college football playoff push right now. Ladies and gentlemen, football icon and. legend Lane Kein. [singing].

>> What's going on, Lane? >> Hey guys, we're um just having an. awesome day here, man. Started meetings, getting ready for a practice, and now. now we're on the Pat McAfee show. How. about that? >> Yeah, what an honor. And obviously, we. had been talking to Lelay right before. we just introed him, and it's been a. spectacular morning down there in. Mississippi. We're very thankful for. everybody. How was the yoga this. morning? I know 6 a.m. yoga is. non-negotiable. How did you start your. day? Was it a great start? >> It was. Ann Mlan taught a great class.

It was extremely hard, man. We had some. coaches in there. Keith Carter AD was in. there and uh it was a grind this. morning. >> Okay. So, you and the AD obviously doing. 6 a.m. yoga. We'll certainly dive into. that relationship here in a matter of. moments. Let's talk about ball though. Huge win obviously over Florida. Right. now, we're on our way to another. massively successful banger of a season. for your old Miss Rebels [clears throat]. down there. How do you feel at this. point? uh got a by-week and then you got. the Egg Bowl on the other side which is. obviously massive rivalry in the United. States of America, not just in the SEC.

>> Well, it was great to get that Saturday. night win. Our our crowd, the fans were. electric. The atmosphere was um it was. awesome. I don't know if you got to. watch any, but um it it really was cool. and I I would think and I hear a lot I. hear this a lot, there's no team in. America that has more fun than Old Miss. and our players and um the the whole. thing and the whole program. So, it's. just awesome to see. It's awesome to see. him have so much fun. The interaction. afterwards, they were going in the. locker room. I brought him back out so. he could go to the student section that.

was still out there and um Kiwan Lacy. had to had these big runs as you see and. he brought the belt out afterwards and. it was awesome. >> Yeah, you got a special thing brewing. down there and I know you and the miss. fans obviously over the last six years. have developed quite a powerhouse down. there and obviously there's discussions. at a lot of different schools especially. whenever you're winning fans kind of get. bored with it. they maybe leave. It was. nice to see your place packed at the end. and I appreciate you bringing your. student or your team back out to say. thank you. I also appreciate the fact.

you're throwing oops to the boys. You. talk about having fun. That's a main. message that you're sending to the crew. and do how important do you think that. is to the success of your team as well? >> Well, I've been I've been fortunate to. be part of some really great runs in. college football, you know, being at USC. with Coach Carol and we won 34 straight. and then coach Sabin our last 26. straight there. I think we won. So, and. I remind these guys as they're in these. runs and and these great things and now. here are what, three straight 10- win.

seasons. Enjoy it. Have fun. You know, so often everybody's so serious. Everybody's in it. And then they get out. of it and they're like, man, remember. those old days. Remember how great they. were. So, I remind them, hey, those good. old days, you're in them right now. Someday, 10, 20 years from now, you're. going to be saying, "Man, remember that. run we had at Old Miss and we had that. division 2 quarterback that would make. all those plays and and the running back. was leading the country in touchdowns. and there was a dog running around on. the field and the players were dunking.". I said, "You're in the good old days. right now." So, just have fun, enjoy it.

And I think if you watch our team, you. see them doing that. >> Okay. So, let's talk about having fun, enjoying it, staying in the moment. There's a lot of distractions that come. with having success. She's talked about. the past three years being an absolute. juggernaut down there in the SEC for Old. Miss. All the success you've had in the. past. Your name is a topic of discussion. everywhere seemingly and will be for the. rest of your life. It's a good thing. I. don't think it's a bad thing because it. it means that you're having success, which is why other people are certainly. going to mention your name whenever jobs. open up. But there's a rumor now.

circulating on the internet and we. appreciate you joining us here to maybe. kind of clarify this. Was there like an. ultimatum given to you in the middle of. a season from Old Miss? It feels like. the way I'm reading it on the internet. is that Old Miss has told you and you. were doing yoga I guess this morning. with the ad. Old Miss has told you like. we we need an answer. Is that true? And. how are you handling it all with the. team with what's currently taking place? >> Yeah, that that's absolutely not true. There's been no ultimate anything like. that at all. And so um I don't know. where that came from like a lot of stuff.

that comes out there. Like I said, man, we're having a blast. I love it here. I. mean, our running back's sitting right. over here. Come on over. And um it just. couldn't be better. Like I say, you pray. for things. Our fans prayed for this. type of thing. And now we're in the. middle of it. So enjoy it. You're 10 and. one. You're getting ready. You got a. by-week. You get to watch half the. country lose and there's no way we can. lose Saturday. And then you play the Egg. Bowl and go dominate that and and keep. that Egg Bowl trophy home where it's. been for a long time.

>> Okay. So Kiwan Lac by the way, 19. touchdowns. Hey, >> 19 tads. 19 tugs. Hey, last week on. Tuesday, we had the president on. This. week, we got the best running back in. the country. Is that smart to say, uh, Lane? >> Yeah, we did know that. And that's why. we were so excited when this came up and. I had to have him here. Man, you had the. president of the United States seven. days ago today and now you have the best. running back in the country. How about. that? >> What a moment. Hey, Kiwan, we appreciate. you. Keep going, brother. Hey, I'm going.

to ask you with him here. Obviously, you. guys have kind of grown. How old are. you, Kiwan? >> 19. [clears throat]. >> 19. >> It would be so cool to be that athletic. at the age of 19 with the world in front. of you that it is with current world. that's happening. You guys feel like. since high school, maybe throughout even. maybe junior high for guys as talented. as you, this modern age where you got to. deal with a lot of distractions in. business and chatter and social media. and messaging. How do you kind of stay. focused, especially with everything. that's going on with your team and what. the future could be?

Um really just having the mindset of. just getting better every day. You know, it's easy, you know, when you have. coaches like this, you know, Coach Smith. just to keep you keep you in the right. direction, you know, and just, you know, staying focused just, you know, going. one and0 each week, too. >> Have you ever returned any kicks. >> in high school? I did. >> What would you done? You see me on the. other side, buddy. What are you doing? >> He's like carrying the ball like 33. times. We don't need more. like, [laughter]. >> "All right, >> we're we're we're good, dude. We Hey,

you don't You're supposed to be helping. us right here.". >> Yeah. [laughter] Yeah. You're right. I'm. sorry. I'm sorry. HEY, KEEP CRUSHING IT, KIWAN. We appreciate the hell out of. you, man. You're the best. >> Yes, sir. I appreciate you. >> Ladies and gentlemen, thanks for. bringing him on, by the way. That's. really cool. I think you're the first. person that we talk to that on a very. regular basis brings in players and. other people. We met Winnad, obviously. had a chance to tell him, "I'm sorry for. picking against you, Winnad." And then. obviously you bring in Lacy, best. running back. appreciate how much you. seemingly enjoy the hell out of your. players and your players enjoy you. I. think I saw you post you were driving.

them to a game. Is it like is this the. tightest you've been with a team? Is. that an accurate depiction of how you. feel with this particular squad, especially with everything going on? Or. is this kind of how every lane keen. coach team is? >> I think this kind of how it is. I mean, we were extremely close with Jackson. Dard and and all the most draft picks. last year in the history of the school. Um left us last year and went on to the. NFL. So I that's just how how we create. our culture and they should be on. They're the ones making the plays, not. me. So, you know, all this success, all.

this credit, all these things, it it is. because of the players and the assistant. coaches putting it all together that. allow this to happen. >> Yeah, [clears throat] I think you got a. special team. You're fun to watch. Speaking of that big one next weekend. after you watch half the country lose, Coach Ba has a question for you, Lane. >> Hey, brother. You know, I've been a part. of 70's Egg Bowls and uh you're the. hottest thing in the country right now. you lose that when they're going to try. to fire your ass. You know that. [laughter]. >> I I know that. I know that, coach. I. I've said when they're like, "Hey, all. this stuff." And and they're like, "Are.

you focused on other places?" I said, "No, I'm focused on winning." Because. now what I've learned in college. football, we have our little group group. chat with like Sarkc and Kirby and a. couple guys and we came up with this. You lose one, you're out of the top 10. You lose two, you're out of the top 25. You lose three, you get fired. So, you. know, we're focused on our job of trying. to get to one and0 every week because. that's the profession we're in now. Yeah, it certainly is. And it sounds. like your players understand that more. now than maybe ever before. So, it's a. special thing you got brewing. And you. talk about losing one game, you're out.

of the top 10, two, you're out of rank, three you're out of a job. It's like old. miss seven years ago. I don't know if. that was necessarily the expectations. So, not that I am the deepest of SEC. history guy, but I don't think the. expectations come unless you create. something special, which you certainly. have. And you've lived in that world, I. guess, where it's like, hey, we want to. be in the college football playoff. whenever you know that that's the. expectation every year. What is the. mindset for you like looking ahead? Are. you trying to grow players right now? Are you trying to figure out this. particular team future culture? Like how.

do you kind of balance it all when that. is the expectation at the highest level? That's not the expectation at every. school. You know that, but like at most. schools that you are going to be talked. about, that is the expectation. How do. you handle that? Just one day at a time. The standard cliche [ __ ]. >> Yeah, I do. Uh, I have an extremely high. expectation how we should perform as a. program and and I've had that since. we've got here. So, my expectation is. way up there. So, when outside. expectations happen or for instance now. our fan base that is now getting used to. this, you know, 10 win seasons every.

year, um, I'm good with it. I understand. they're now coming to the expectation. that I've had all along here. So, some. people be like, man, they're going to. expect you to do this all the time and. everything. Great. Well, we're now. aligned in our expectations of what we. want our program to be. So, I I love. that the fans now have what some people. would say is unrealistic expectations. for Old Miss cuz now they're just. matching how I feel. >> Yeah, I love that. I think you had that. at FAU, too. I think that that's what. you were planning on doing down there on.

this tour, uh, coaching tour around the. country that Lane Keifin is on. Old Miss. has certainly reaped the benefits over. the last six years. Talk about offensive. explosion and being fun to watch. Go. ahead, Co. Debbut. >> Yeah, coach, you're kind of known from. the outside in for your passing game, your wide open passing game, maybe. uptempo, but you're rushing the ball for. over 200 yards a game now. So, how does. that work as far as like I guess your. scheme and then your personnel using. what's best for you week to week to win. a ball game? >> Yeah, I think that's a misconception.

You know, the passing thing as you. referred to that, you know, we've just. always I've been [snorts] this passing. coach. Um, we had Devin Singleary at FAU. lead the country in touchdowns. Then. Quinn Sean Junkkins when he was here was. leading the country in carries and now. Kiwan Lacy leading the country. So um. we've been running the ball for a while. believe in running the ball. Um I think. that that was an issue last year why you. know we didn't end up going into the. playoffs and going deep in the playoffs. because we didn't have that running game. had we with the defensive players and. Jackson Dart and stuff. I think we would.

have been there deep into the playoffs. So um really glad that we've got that. back. We had a one year off of having a. great running game and now we're back. >> Yeah, it's fun to watch. And Lacy seems. like an absolute dog. Oh yeah. >> I mean, uh, immediate salute upon. getting on there. I respect that. He's. >> What did you say earlier? He's got 19. touchdowns and he's 19 years old. That's. crazy. >> 19. >> Yeah. He's got a lot of time left to. really take over football and only get. better and uh certainly has already done. some incredible stuff. Ty has a question.

for you. >> Yeah, coach. Last year, I think a lot of. people believed you guys were one of the. 12 best teams in the country and you. know what happened happened. You got. left out and it kind of it it is what it. is. But I remember you saying like you. know you were in a position where you. kind of had to root for chaos given you. know the situation you were in maybe. being on the bubble uh last year with. this year and there being you know. potentially eight or nine teams that are. still in play to make the college. football playoff from the SEC. Is that. mantra kind of still the same? Are you.

still kind of in like, hey, the like you. mentioned, half the country is going to. lose this week and you guys don't play. or is it different because after the Egg. Bowl the hay is in the barn and what you. guys will have needed to do is already. done and you know then you can change. your mind or your mindset I guess to the. playoffs on the horizon. >> Yeah, I looked at it going into the. Florida game as we have two oneame. seasons. We had Florida, let's make sure. we win that. Then we got a buy and then. we got a oneame egg bowl. Let's make. sure we win that. and then we've taken.

care of our business. There's too many. variables. Um, you know, because. everybody's like, "Well, you got to get. to the top 12 teams." Well, now we're. finding out that depending on how other. things go, you really got to get to the. top 10 teams to make sure you make the. playoffs because there might be two of. the teams might not even be in the top. 12. They could be number 20 and 25 or. something with the current flawed. system. So, um, like you said, everybody's like, "Well, man, you better. be in the top 12." No, you better make. sure you're in the top 10. Um or you or. you might get left out.

>> One loss out of the top 10, two losses. out of the top 20, three losses out of a. job. Joy, >> I love that you guys just kind of. understand that now. Yeah, that is life. Such is life. You're living. Go ahead. >> Yeah, that's I mean, we just we just saw. that with Brian Kelly. That's exactly. the scenario that just happened. So, um. I ain't worried about other stuff. I. worry about making sure we win. >> Yeah, cuz if we win, I still have a job. And now if we win. >> there's just. >> and then and if we win you'll you'll.

have me on because we know the story. before how over the years I tried to get. on and you didn't let me on till till we. won enough. >> Is your SID there? Is your SID there? >> No, he's he would still be asleep. He. would not be here. This is too early for. him. >> Yeah. So let's believe his side of the. story, not ours. [clears throat]. Definitely. Uh Connor has a question for. you about life these days. >> I actually I'm joking with you. I really. do believe your side. >> No, no, no, no. Yeah, I'm joking too. I'm joking. He has told me all along. differently, but but I know now that. we've become buddies, I know the truth. >> Well, on that note, SID I like he's a.

little bit of a dog, too. I I And I like. that he sleeps in. Get a little catnap. in there as well. I I enjoy all of that. Go ahead, Con. >> Yeah, Lane. Most SID suck at their job. Just FYI for. >> most. Yes, we have learned that most. almost all of them. Go ahead. >> Almost all if not all. >> No, no, not all. No, no. Because I'm. going to run into one and I'm going to. say you're not the one we're talking. about. So, it's not. >> my opinion. My opinion does not reflect. Yeah. Almost all. But uh but Lane, one. thing uh we all love to see from you is. when you post on IG Andex kind of those. uh you know day-to-day segments from the. book that you're reading. How much does.

that mean to you and how important it is. to you to get in that book every day and. kind of help you stay in the moment? Kind of keep that momentto moment. awareness and is that something you fall. back on a lot of the times especially. amid all the chaos Ty just mentioned? >> Yeah, it sure is. Um, I've really. changed in that of, you know, I used to. just coach thinking, okay, well, it's. about getting the players good and. getting them to the NFL. And, and now. I've realized like I have this really. God's put me on this wonderful platform. that for whatever reason people listen.

to me and follow me. So, to be able to. help people now, especially because of. all the things I went through and. learned from is my favorite thing when. people come to me say, "Hey, I watched. your E60, man, and I've made changes in. my life because of that." Or, "My son. did." And I'm like, man, that that that. gives me a feeling that is so much. better than any win or any trophy or. anything. So, I've kind of become. addicted to that, like wanting to just. help people not make some of the same. mistakes or if they're in some tough.

spots, helping them through that because. of things I've gone through. >> What's the name of that book? The Pivot. Year. Is that what it's called? >> Yes, The Pivot Year. Brianna West. >> And uh what it's like daily. words like what? I don't I don't think I. fully understand what what is it. >> Yeah. It's just stuff that she wrote. that every day has something in there. like you know today like if you're 90. years old man what would you tell. yourself when you're making decisions. you know I thought was kind of a amazing. read this morning. >> See my issue as soon as I would read.

that is lady I'm not living in 90. What's tomorrow? >> I knew you were going to say I I knew. you. >> So then I then I got the next day but. it's 365 days I assume of messages. >> Yeah. >> I love the idea. I love the concept. Maybe I maybe we do one of those in. here, you know, and we just project it. up onto that wall when everybody walks. in here. >> Not a bad idea. >> We got the uh. >> the thing. >> Yeah, the thing would be. >> Yeah, we'll put it up on the thing. >> Perfect. >> Thank you, ladies. >> Maybe you maybe you every morning make. one up, you know, as you're like kind of. going through your morning thing and you. kind of have your tradition of of what. helps get you clear in the morning and.

then you write one for everyone. >> You're early, right? >> Yeah. You're like moment as you're. sitting there. >> The Pat McAfee moment. Another job. >> motivating McAfee. [laughter]. >> Motivation by McAfee. Motivation by. McAfee. >> All right, I'll do it in that I'll do it. in that sauna that I'm in in the. morning. >> There we go. >> Now, some messages. >> Don't start with Yeah, just don't start. with things like, "Well, you probably. won't live to be 90, so this doesn't. matter." But. >> let me write my positive. >> Let can I write my messages, please?

Okay. Briana can write hers. I'll write. mine. >> We don't know if we're going to make it. to tomorrow. you know that that is not a. bad way to look at today. Now on that. note, I will try to do this maybe for. betterment of my own being too. This. will help me a lot. So I'm going to do. this for incredibly selfish reasons. I. don't know how long it's going to last. Let's assume I start one tomorrow. >> Okay. >> I'll add Kein. >> Uh. >> yeah, >> I don't know if this makes it to Friday, but. >> if it does, >> we're on to something. >> Hey Pat, stop worrying about Friday,

Saturday. Just one day, man. Do it for. one day and then the next day maybe do. it. Maybe one day, maybe you should do. the good one day. >> You're the man. Ladies and gentlemen, >> his name is being talked about in every. city, but right now is the good times. for Old Miss, >> and he's enjoying every single second of. it. Keep doing you, Lane. We appreciate. the hell out of you, man. >> All right, guys. Thanks for having me. Hottie Totty, go Revs. >> # come to the sip. >> Come to the sip anytime, man. Hey, you.

got to do the walk with us sometime, man. We had your buddy Theo Vaughn did. the walk. He said it was one of the best. experiences of his life. >> I saw the video pop up on the internet. and I see you two standing next to each. other and I'm like this is awesome. And. of course, and then I see some videos of. Theo experiencing it. And obviously if. you're not a part of the sports world, especially, you know, big-time sports. world, you very rarely get to experience. something like that. That's a special. feeling when everybody's kind of coming. together saying, "Hey, go kick their. ass." That's a special thing I think. that sports has that nobody else has. Coach, >> yeah, he started the walk and I don't.

think he realized like the walk's like a. half mile. It's a long walk through like. 50,000 people. So, like right off the. bat, he's screaming, "This is the. greatest thing ever. LET'S GO. KICK IT. OFF. KICK IT OFF." AND I'M LIKE, "HEY, BRO. We still have a half mile to go. [laughter]. >> All right. I'll catch him for the final. start the marathon in the sprint.". >> Yeah. That's awesome. All right. Well, thank you for doing that for Theo, letting him experience. >> Yeah, it was cool. >> Thank you for being good for college. ball and thank you for your time this. morning. You're the best. >> All right, guys. Have a good one. >> All the best. and we don't know if we're.

gonna make it to 90. So, let's make sure. we enjoy today because we're in the good. old days. You're the mayor, ladies and. gentlemen. Coach Lane, >> he was awesome. He was awesome. Obviously, uh we didn't ask him where he. was going to be coaching next year. And. I think if he was to give an answer, he. would say, "I love being at Old Miss." I. think he does, too. You know, there's. there's a lot of old uh sayings about. like don't leave happy. And it seems. like Lane Keifin is the happiest he's. ever been. Now, obviously, there's a lot. of different situations that are open. and what he has been able to accomplish. at Old Miss over the last six years. I.

think people around the SEC, old school. SEC people are like, "Hey, he has made. this place an expected powerhouse, which. is something special and good for ball. as a whole." And they also see the style. that he plays with, the way he plays is. an explosive style. It's fun to watch. And if you're able to get a loaded. defense alongside of what he can do on. the offense, it's easy to see like, hey, this could be a national champion in the. making. And I think Old Miss is thinking. the same thing. So it's a very. interesting time for Lane Keifin. It's. an interesting time for these coaching. searches. You know, James Franklin was.

obviously the biggest name that was. available for the this particular. coaching cycle and he just signed with. Virginia Tech. All the other coaches. that were maybe going to become the head. coaches whenever these schools opened. up. Uh they've all resigned massive. deals at their place. So Lane Keifin's. decision, which I guess he's saying, well, there's no ultimate there's no. decision being made. I'm little I'm in. the middle of like a five I don't know. how many years he has I don't know what. his contract is. He's just doing his. thing right now at Old Miss and uh. certainly sitting in a great leverage.

position. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Let's assume that he understands. that cuz he's been in the business. literally his entire life. Like I. understand a coaching business, but he. seemingly loves Old Miss and every time. he's there, every time he comes on, he. brings a player on which I think is. sweet, too. Lacy is just like, "Hey, we're trying to go one day at a time. We're trying to get better every single. day. They're all locked in. It's like. that's good leadership out of the guy. who's very entertaining as well. >> I love that with all the distractions. outside the building. That's always I. feel like one of the biggest challenge. for coaches even in the professional.

level, but definitely on the collegiate. level is kind of excluding the noise on. the outside. He seems to have a great. relationship with his guys. We see it. during the games. You talked about. throwing alley hoops, doing the [ __ ] We. see it postgame. It's always something. with either his players or the. opponent's players. And we feel like. coaches whenever we see them, they're. always in recruiting mode. But the world. that we live in, when you're that good. at your job, like you do have a decision. to make almost year in and year out, unless you're at one of these schools. that you just feel like, okay, maybe. Ohio State or like Alabama, >> where they call them blue bloods.

>> Yeah. But like, you know, once you get. kind of to that top, it's like, okay, what other jump can you make? Old Miss, while they are a national title. contender, you can still look at the LSU. job or even the Florida job and say, hey, maybe that's a a bump up or even a. Penn State job to some people. So, um, we'll see where he goes. There will be a. decision made not only for coaches but. players in this environment. Even when. Lacy pops in the screen, it's like just. can't help but think like, okay, if he. leaves, he'll probably be coming with. him or where will he be going next? >> We've seen we've seen coordinators and. quarterbacks.

>> We saw it with Jugens. He mentioned. Jugens. We saw him at Ohio State. >> Basically, uh 70% of the schools that. get very good. >> Yeah. bring a coach and player or. players or Sign Netti came here to. Indiana, brought a roster basically. alongside of them and have massive. success. It is a different time now with. ever coaches changing. Gohan, huh? Yeah, I was just going to say like there there. aren't too many times in your career, I. don't think either, where we all know. how good of a head coach Lane Kein is, but like he's the bell of the ball right.

now, you know, and I don't know how many. times you get that opportunity where. literally every college, every college. that has an opening, they want you and. they want you really badly. So, obviously, he's not going to he's not. thinking about other stuff right now. because if you're an LSU or you're a. Florida, like guess what? It really. isn't that big of a deal. can wait until. January when the season's over if Miss. is to win the national championship and. then he can make a decision. But you if. you're an Old Miss fan, I understand you. know this all this kind of stuff. probably pisses you off because you'd.

like him to just sign an extension and. declare his allegiance and stay there. But like you also have to understand. like he may never get this opportunity. ever again in his career. >> Yeah. And it's also like if you were in. his seat right now, what would you do? You know, like he loves Old Miss. He. loves He's in middle. All that [ __ ] is. not happening with him either. I think. he has an agent and everything else is. kind of happening outside. He's just. trying to win right now and and there's. still time to do everything is what he's. saying. But he's certainly got to. understand the situation as well. I. would assume coach BA who's a coach in.

college and in the NFL, he understands. the situation that's currently happening. around him. He's not promoting it. I. don't think he is. He literally only. wanted to come on there to say, "Hey, Miss and I do not have any there's no. heat between me and Miss." I think is. what he wanted to clear up. I think that. is why came on today like hey there's no. ultimatum there's no you need this. there's none of that happening right now. we are focused on ball right now he. knows all that's happening though right. coach. >> oh totally and he knows he's been in his. business dad the whole time that. elevator rises real fast to the top to. the bottom and it's only a couple losses.

like you said and you're looking for a. job right now everybody wants you do. what's best for your family. >> and okay so BA exactly. >> would like to go on the record do what's. best for your family okay this is old. coach BA I would like go on the record. and say I love the fact that they are. seemingly locked in on this egg bowl. Like I appreciate that it feels like and. it might be the modern day with how the. world works, but like that kid Lacy, he's they've been talking to him since. he's like ninth grade probably. There's. been business deals try to be happen.

since he's 10th, 11th, 12th grade. So, like he might be only 19, but in this. modern world that we're in of. distractions, like the things we used to. call big- time distractions, money, okay, getting money on the table somehow. somebody's doing this, uh, having. negative things said about you, maybe in. the media, like these dudes are. literally. >> entrenched in this throughout their. teenage years. They see everything that. everybody says about them all the time, every in their phone, and they have. throughout their entirety. So, it feels. like they're a much more mature maybe. group of individuals than maybe in the.

past because they've had to be because. they wouldn't be able to survive if they. weren't. So, it's like the way they. handle a coach maybe getting talked. about or more money being talked about. It's like they've been hearing that [ __ ]. since they're 14 years old. Like, hey, you go win this tournament, there's a. chance you get an Adidas deal locked. down or something in the future, a Nike. deal, you do something like like there's. always been like stipulations to. basically everything and everybody for. these generation, I think. So, it's made. them much more welcoming to the. situation, maybe easier for them to buy. in to everything happening. So, I don't.

think there's any distractions anymore. where it used to maybe be like some. sensitive or some personal feelings. Now, it's like these dudes are like, "Hey, this is business.". >> I think it it still is, but I think the. the best ones are going to be able to to. separate it. They can compartmentalize, hey, I can handle the business or have. someone or some people handle that. business. And then when it's time to. because it is still just as tough in. between those lines. We heard Kirby. Smart talk about, hey, some players just. want that check. They don't want the. physicality. So being able to handle. both, I think that'll be an even bigger.

separator of the two different type of. athletes that we have going forward. >> Hey, it feels like Old Miss got a bunch. of D2 guy comes in winning dad. It's. like, yeah, yeah, I understand. Hey, you. might go, they're saying the bigger, you're going to get a bigger check. somewhere. You should see what I was. getting at Fair State. So what you guys. offer me, we you changed my life here. you know, if you get a potential like I. feel like they're just entrenched in it. They're like having it's almost like. more commonality between the coach and. the player almost like a much more. understanding which can rally a group. I. think that could so miss there's a.

chance they benefit from all this. conversation happening actually for the. motivation of the team even though their. fans don't want to hear that at all. >> Yeah. And it's not as if this is Lane's. first rodeo. Like he did this. That was. the biggest thing when watching his E60. when he was at Tennessee and he, you. know, left to go to USC. Like that felt. like a decision that people are trying. to work him into. It's damn near like. the internet and everybody in Miss and. how loud it is about him not signing the. extension yada yada yada and all the. options he has. Like he's went through. that process at Tennessee and what did. he do? He ended up leaving Tennessee and.

then there was a riot in the street. So. like there's there's so many different. aspects that go into it and the fabric. of college football is different because. of the payment of players. So you can't. really compare college football then to. college football now. But you can. compare him being poached by other. schools and him having the temptation to. leave and and what he's doing right now. He went through the process already. Feels as though when he looks back on. it, he might have approached that entire. thing wrong at Tennessee, at USC with. how everything ended up. Whereas now. he's more so like as enlightened as you. can be like, "Hey, no, we're worried.

about right now. We're worried about. today. We're worried about the game. that's on our schedule. Still not. worried about all the [ __ ] that could. come because who the hell knows what. changes. >> Yeah, they lose every game out here. You. know, things are going to change quickly. to your point. And BA, your words of. advice once again, Tim would be. >> do what's best for your family. >> All right. And uh on that note, LET'S GO. TO HAMMER TIME AP TONE. TONE, uh. anything on Lane Keifin that we missed? And also, what do you think the CFP. committee is going to roll out this. evening as their projected 12 team.

playoff for their third edition of the. CFP projections? >> Yeah, for for Lane, I agree with Coach. Ba. Do what's best for your family and. that's probably going to LSU or Florida. >> Jeez, Old Miss are HAVING A GOOD TIME. WALKING OUT THERE. THEY'RE UNBELIEVABLE. They're throwing oops. >> Listen, I I I love Old Miss. I really. really do. But I mean they are playing. that transfer portal game there and it's. not so much of that at Florida and LSU. So I think it's more of a less of a dice. roll season by season at those places. Plus I mean.

LSU at night. That's I mean that's just. >> miss they say. >> Yeah. Yeah. It's great. But let's talk. about Miss. Let's talk about tonight. Let's talk about the college football. playoff. I do think Miss moves up to. number six and that is because Alabama. lost. So, one's going to be the same, two's going to be the same, three is. going to be the same. That's Ohio State, Indiana, and&M. I don't see anything. changing there with what happened this. weekend. Uh&M the comeback was. impressive. So, I I don't think they're.

going to dock them for that. I don't. think they're going to put them over for. IU for that. So, I think one, two, three. stay the same. Four, Georgia got a big. win over Texas. They bump up because. Alabama was at four and they take a. loss. five. Texas Tech is going to move. up to where Georgia was uh because they. were at six last week ahead of Miss. So. there's no reason that I think Miss is. going to jump Texas Tech. So I think. five and six will be Texas Tech and Miss. and that this is where the questions. start coming in. So I have Oregon at.

seven, but I also had Oregon higher last. time in the very first one. And they. didn't love Oregon. They disrespected. Oregon. Uh and they had Oregon lower. than other teams. But Oregon's only got. one loss. Oklahoma's got two losses. Bama's got two losses. So, I do think. they're going to have Oregon at seven, but there's a chance that uh Oklahoma. and Bama may be ahead of Oregon in that. situation. We will see. Oklahoma at 8. because they just beat Bama headtohead. at 9, Notre Dame at 10. They had Miami. at 11 last week, Miami. I don't see any.

reason why they would uh move Miami out. of that. Georgia Tech had a close close. win against Boston College. And then uh. the tossup is 12. I have North Texas. They're the only one. loss American team. That could be two. lane. That could be Navy, but I just. have North Texas up there at 12 right. now. >> All right. Well, I appreciate that. And. uh we are trying to predict what the CFB. committee is going to do, right? >> Correct. Yes. >> Would that be the same as how you view. it right now, though? >> Similar. Very, very similar.

>> All right. Let's talk about the&m uh. ranking because it's going to become the. topic of conversation because there's. people that think you know they should. be ranked higher because how great they. have been obviously and they have won. They were down 30 to3 at halftime. What. did that tell you about the Texas A&M. team? Do you dock them or raise their. score for them? >> I raise it. I mean to come back South. Carolina's a good football team. They. >> they're up 30 to3 at half. >> They lost some close close games to some. all the teams on that list right there. and uh to come back and score 30 some. points and win the game that that talks. about the what's in their heart in the.

locker room and Mike Elgo is a hell of a. coach. >> Yes, he is. Do you So you're saying. after that game you would raise them in. the rankings as opposed to maybe uh. lower them in the rankings because. there's people out there that see those. close wins like Indiana over Penn State. like Penn State not supposed to be that. good. South Carolina not supposed to be. that good. There's people that are like. there it was really close it was too. close not as good of a team. We players. have said, "Yeah, right. I think that. type of win's more important than uh. anything else." How do you view it? >> Yeah, I think it's way more important. And it's hard to flip. Indiana is.

playing so good and that that win at. Oregon, but look at that strength of. schedule that&m is playing. They're. number two to me. >> Oh jeez. He's saying, "Yeah, I'm on that. side. >> If you're number one in the SEC, then to. me, you're number two.". >> All right, we'll be back on the other. side. Coach Ba has made his point. >> It's electrifying here at Happy Valley. We're lucky to be here. And uh you know. the way you win this is you have uh be. the first 300 people here and you get a. ticket and then we randomly select a. ticket and that person gets an.

opportunity to kick a 33 yard field goal. for an undetermined amount of money. This week we had our man William, right? What's your name? >> William. Yes, sir. >> You won the raffle and you said I don't. want to kick because I suck at kicking. Is that accurate? >> More or less. [laughter]. >> What is your uh major here? >> I'm a finance major. >> Okay. So, money decision was I suck at. this. Let me try to find somebody who's. good at this. How did you land on my man. here? And uh what are your hopes in him? >> Well, I was looking around. I saw my. man. He said he plays soccer and I was.

like, this is my guy right here. My dog. Carson. I have faith in him. So, I know. he's going to get it done. >> All right. You're Carson, right? You. played high school soccer. Is that. accurate? >> I did play high school soccer. >> Where are you from? >> I'm from Hannover, Pennsylvania. >> Okay. You're a Pennsylvania guy. Have. you ever kicked a ball before? other. than not football, soccer. >> Okay. Well, hopefully you're terrible at. this. It's $100,000. Uh are you guys. splitting that 50/50? >> Yes, sir. >> Okay. Uh so we'll make it uh $300,000. $150,000 for both of you. Okay.

>> You only get one kick though. You've. game the ticket game, which I appreciate. and respect. It's up to $300,000. $150. for both of you. Only one kick though, Herby. We're not doing anything. I don't. care how many standers chant for another. kick. >> Only one. Herby played high school. soccer. He's a good player. >> We got a problem here. >> That's right. It's a white out. It could. be a special day. YOU COULD HELP OUT. YOUR GUY WILLIAM IN WINNING $150,000.

>> One kick 300,000. two. >> [cheering]. [cheering]. >> You can't get there. [cheering]. >> You're a good man. >> This is a good man.

>> Carson, congratulations. >> You pushed that, WILLIAM. WAY TO GO. IT. HAS BEEN AN EXPENSIVE year out here at. the field goal kick. Carson, I'm proud. OF YOU, BUDDY. 300, 150 TO YOU. 150 TO. YOU. GOOD finance decisions were made IN. THE FIRST TOP SIX WHITE [cheering] OUT. AND AN EXPENSIVE ONE. WE ARE. >> WE ARE. WE are.

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and we're going to get that thing from. deep down in the soul hole down in the. belly because we need these people that. lean in on their fingertips. You see, they get that one little sound and maybe. they give a little flinch and we get a. free play. And what's a free play lead. to? Well, that leads to a free deep. And. a deep ball, no risk it, no biscuit, means maybe a touchdown means maybe we. win this game. Maybe we win it all. And. that's what a good cadence can bring. And that cadence was brought to you by a. man who coached football for 47 years. Quarterback, legend, Super Bowl. champion, Bruce Arens. >> That's what a good cadence can do. can.

change lives, can change a city, can. change a team. >> Yeah, this can't. [clears throat]. >> It's a good point. >> I didn't know we're going to utilize. this as an opportunity. Uh, hey, need to. get this out of the game. We're not. doing fake claps. We're not doing real. claps. We're going Hey, we need at least. a little bit of leadership out there is. what you're saying. >> Getting some down your gut. Let's go. >> Yeah. We need because they're going to. need that at some point in their life. Indeed. >> Yeah. Not even just in football, just in. life in general. Going to need to be. able to have a little bit of uh command. at some point, especially if you're.

playing quarterback. I can't tell you. how many quarterbacks I've interviewed. over the years. Oh, I never called a. play. What's your snap count? You've. never called a play and you never use a. snap count. You're a quarterback. I. could throw. There's a little bit more. to it than that. [laughter]. >> It's not on them, though. I mean, obviously, we're kind of giving them an. excuse, but legitimately their entire. football careers have been, "Hey, you're. just the most athletic guy we got. Okay, don't you worry about anything. You look. over at us, we'll tell you to play, and. then you're just easy as this." Okay, if.

we hold up two, you're doing you're. [applause] okay. That's that's what. you're [laughter] doing. And they don't. really expect anything from them. I. think Tom Brady actually did an entire. take on this about how when you don't. really expect much from people, you're. not really going to reach their. expectations of themselves ever or. whatever. You put more responsibility on. people, they're actually going to show. up for you in a bigger way. And he. thought football was getting too. simplified. Sounds like you as. quarterback also feel the same way. Now, are we getting back though? Does it feel. like it's coming back? >> It's very cyclical. I don't see that. many teams holding up the cards going. 1,000 miles an hour. >> We got We got the headphones now.

>> in the in the helmets. >> Oh, yeah. >> You thought I was talking to you. Yeah. In the headphones now. Yeah. They're. like the NFL. College is like the NFL. now. >> So, I brought over Mike Norll. He was at. Arizona State to Arizona Cardinal. All. right. Teach our guys all this [ __ ]. you're doing, man. I said, "But if you. could talk to him, would you do this?". He said, "Hell novel." [laughter]. >> Exactly. >> Yeah. So, now that they have the ears, they're able to do it. It has changed it. a bit. And I think also the style of. football, it feels like it's kind of. changing right in front of our eyes. Now, last night, the Dallas Cowboys get.

a huge win. The talks tables here at. Boston Connor and at Ty Schmidt. Nine-year NFL vet Darius J. Butler. Huge. takeaway from the Dallas Cowboys last. night from you is. >> I like their defense going forward. I. feel much better about it than I was. against the Las Vegas Raiders. So, I'm. not too high on him. I would like to see. him, you know, kind of the same way. Hey, Dan Campbell. Oh, man. He's back. calling plays against Commanders. Got to. see it for a few more games against some. good defense. So, I feel the same way, but I feel much better cuz I know Dallas. week in and week out, they can be great. on offense, not sure about the defense, but I feel better with the bodies that.

are on the field. >> Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, is. a college football national champion, a. Super Bowl champion, a Rder Cup winner, the all-time leading tackler for the. Green Bay Packers, AJ Hawk. >> Hawker Debut's big takeaway is uh, hey, the defense for the Cowboys might not be. ass. You know, they made some plays at. the trade deadline. Obviously, Jerry. Jones said, "I'm going to be in the. market at all times. I have a trade in. my back pocket, maybe in my front. pocket, too." [ __ ] I might have one. inside my boot. You never know what I'm. gonna do in this entire thing. Made some. plays. They're getting some guys back. healthy. Deep pointed out in the first. hour, Malik Hooker, who obviously we.

know here in Indianapolis, you know, at. Ohio State, incredible player, especially whenever he's on the field. He just returned back after an injury. So, it's like, are the Dallas Cowboys. defense maybe primed to go on a little. bit of a run to maybe get them back into. contention down there? >> I mean, they absolutely should be. I. think the Quinnon Williams, Kenny Clark. duo up front is awesome. Those guys are. are going to give O lines nightmares I. think moving forward. But Logan Wilson's. also came over from the Bengals. You. know, he was running around the middle. of the field a decent amount. And look. at this this run stopping. I just like.

when they kept cutting to Jair in his. box and he was kind of slouched down in. his seat. He was like he was cackling a. few times after Quinnon Williams would. make a play. Like he was he was uh I. think he was feeling pretty good last. night. >> The amount of amount of Joey G. I assume. that there was and I know didn't tell. him. Did he have one of those things. where he walks out and they have. microphones in his face? Do you remember. those things? >> Oh, yeah. >> Did he have one of those last night? And. did it look like uh come closer? Got to be able to stop the run. I said, and we were able to do it on prime time.

here. This is what I've been saying. Now, you know Mr. Clark, he was part of. that Michael trade that nobody were. talking about. >> I felt like I was a super genius. Now, nobody even talked about Mr. Clark. You. know what he does in the middle of. Dline? You think they're running on us? I don't think so. And then wait till you. see what Oh, Quinnon Williams. You ever. heard of him? You have. Yeah, he's. coming over as well. And guess what. we're going to do? We're going to stop. the running. Michael, what's he doing? Well, he's closing out games for the. Green Bay Packers. We We We don't need. that. Don't ask about Michael. >> I think Michael's a sack of [ __ ] So, don't ask me about Michael again. >> Jerry's got to be so pumped. He's got to.

be so pumped right now. He's potentially. drilling for a hundred billion dollars. in natural gas. And his defense is doing. what he was hoping that it would do in. the end. And they might get back into. contention. You know, on the flip side, Las Vegas Raiders, we made a massive. pitch in the first hour. I don't know if. you heard, for Max Crosby to just. >> not be on their team anymore. [laughter]. And I understand that that takes a lot. of different decisions. There's a lot of. emotions involved in this. I understand, you know, there's been a lot of turnover. and there's been a pillar and there's.

only been certain amount of pillars of. the Raiders franchise and Max Crosby. wants to epitomize everything that there. is to be a Raider and I appreciate that. But a part of just being a Raider and. nobody else is we're not gonna see you. in a big game ever, you know? And uh I'm. bummed out about that's what it feels. like at least. I feel like they're just. a cursed franchise. Every decision that. is like Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Just goes no. >> No. Yeah. And.

>> what do they do? I mean, what do they do. with Pete Carol, first year head coach? Like what what do you do? Obviously, trade deadline's gone, so Max is there. for the rest of this year, but what what. happens after this? Like this off. seasonason, what does it look like for. the Raiders? >> I have no idea. I honestly have no idea. what they do. All these people are so. new and it was supposed to be good. Now. granted, hey, let them get their culture. in there. >> Okay, let. >> them get their culture in there. Let. them. >> No, Pete Carol is not he's not a spring. chicken. >> All right, took a shot. And the shot. was, hey, to let's let's compete now. We.

don't need to go win a Super Bowl now, but we need to be competitive. So if you. finish finish this season how it. started, you move on. You you restart. Brady Spy Tech, you restart. I love. Pete. Might be a little LONGER THAN TWO. >> WHAT? >> YEAH. >> I I LOVE PETE. AND we It was some shots. on him on the sideline where he didn't. look like the same old Pete. >> I know. I saw the gum beating. >> I know the gum was beating him. I saw. >> I don't like that. >> at the bottom of the crunches. >> The gum wrapping a little bit longer. So.

it's a slower uplift. the gum starting. to win a little bit more than what it. used to be. Okay, I understand what. you're saying when you talk about those. types of things. >> I like Pete, >> but Pete is only one legitimately from. what I remember. Now, I think there was. a time maybe at New England he was. coached or maybe some other places where. he didn't go well, but from my entire. memory life, USC he wins, Seattle he. wins, he's awesome, everybody loves. everything he says. He gets kicked out. of Seattle. I mean, >> yeah. >> And how's Seattle? And Seattle's really.

reaping the benefits of that right now. Moving on. They got a nice young coach. McDonald and boy, I'll tell you, he. [ __ ] brings it on the defenses. >> It happened fast. >> And they're going to get they got a. quarterback who's kind of on a revenge. tour just for the entire world. Now, he. had a bad outing against the Rams. They. were wearing a midnight mode. It's tough. to play against them. Everybody was. making the ghost jokes. Let's relax. Okay. There's no reason for that. Just. because it was night, midnight, and. ghost. >> Yeah. Hookah.

>> Yeah. >> Yeah. He dropped a subtle little ghost. out there, but I think that's because. he's like paying tribute to Ty Hilton. because he's always open. >> But the Seattle Seahawks turn the page. quickly. Painted over the walls. >> Mhm. [clears throat]. >> Legion of who? >> Yeah. >> I love that. >> Pete Carol. Yep. Yeah. Let's get him out of here. >> Triple coat that one. >> Russell Wilson. Yeah. Yeah. Let's do. that. >> Triple coat. Super Bowls. Okay. All right. We'll find.

new ones for those. And thank God, new. team. Jesus, we hated it. Thank God we. got a [laughter] new team. And now they. are a whole different team. Brand new. characters, brand new dominance. And. Pete Carol had to sit out for a year and. then he gets his opportunity here with. Las Vegas. And I just know Pete Carol. especially for how competitive he is. Every day wants to compete. Everything's. a competition. That's why he's still in. shape. That's why he can still spin it. at 70 whatever he is. It's like he. wanted to be good. Very good.

>> Oh yeah. >> With the Raiders. I mean, he wanted this. to be great. And that is why they. brought in Gino. Yeah. >> And that's why they did make some plays. That's why Hey, >> what were the expectations though? Like. honestly, what was what was the. expectation coming in? They think they. were a playoff team. >> No, no, it's what Debut said. Just. competitive and like it hasn't been like. Chip Kelly is the highest paid offensive. coordinator in the NFL. They're the 31st. offense. Like we forget about that, too. And it it does take a lot of nuts to cut. bait after one year. But from a team. that just did it, like sometimes it is. the right decision. Sometimes you do.

have to do that and keeping the GM spy. techch would also make a lot of sense. >> They're just they're in no man's land. because I understand we've talked about. this with the Jets right now with what. they're doing, but they they have so. many positions in need and I understand. Max Crosby could be one a top five. Raider of all time. They need to trade. him. They need to trade Brock Bowers. They need to stockpile as many picks as. they can because they have about 15. positions in need that they have and. they need to go just try to get lucky. and find those guys. We've heard about.

Brady and and Spycch. They think Spyc's. really good. It just like it's too bad. But you you do you have to blow it up. >> And we don't want to keep doing this. We. feel bad for Raiders fans. We would like. your team to be good cuz the Raiders. being good would be sick. We just fear. that it's probably I mean Tom Brady's in. there making decisions for you guys and. it's not going well. I in my simple. football brain I go Tom Brady can't. figure I don't know who else would you. call uh Tom Brady. Well he's there. already. >> It's not working. >> I don't know. I I [ __ ] You're not.

going to call me. I'm not giving you an. answer. Tom Brady's giving you the wrong. ones. I don't even know what it is. But. that's why I believe that maybe they do. have a chance to be good. But it's also. one of those things where if you're. like, you know, like they we talked. about Ben Johnson and Brady and like. they're if you're one of these like kind. of upcoming coaches who a lot of people. are looking at and they like are do you. want to go take the Raiders job and. potentially get fired in like a year and. a half as opposed to just getting and. also Ran who's been around there? Like I. I don't know. >> I mean it's tough. It's tough decision.

I I would not get rid of Pete for sure. Pete's got so much energy and that he. lives for it. Uh, John, I worked with. John Spych. He's outstanding. Great. evaluator. They'll kill the draft each. year. Um, I think I, like you said, I'm. not getting rid of Brockm. >> He's too young. He's too good. He's. unbelievable. >> All right, Max is up there. Let's get as. much as we can for him. >> Okay, >> maybe we get three offensive linemen for. him. >> Okay, that be a good idea. >> All right, two in the draft and a trade. And now, oh, we got picked up front.

Gino can still spin it. He's shown it. He was lighting it up there on those. play action passes last night. And then. all of a sudden one gets tipped. Now all. of a sudden there you are throwing it 20. times a game with the best young running. back in the league. I don't know about. that one but uh you know may it all goes. up front again. Yeah. But I'm not. blowing that up. >> Okay. All right. Coach Ba speaks and we. shall listen. Tom Brady is there. We. assume he'll have success. Pete Carol to. his credit has had success. Tom you know. Tom Brady letting go be the quarterback. for the team that he is own. He has.

respect for Gino. I think we all think. Gino getting a bit unlucky a lot of. times this season, but he's taken the. blame for everything happening in the. city, which we respect and appreciate. Let's pivot away from that and let's go. to a moment that we uh we're honored to. be a part of. So, this has started to. happen on a few different occasions now. not on a regular basis, but a few. different occasions where our show is. allowed to be a part of like one of the. biggest moments of an athletes life. where somebody commits to a university.

uh to play football or basketball or. whatever their sport is of choice and. continue their athletic career. Now, we. assume, especially with getting to know. the guys that have done that on our. show, that these guys are going to go on. to be pros and potentially Hall of. Famers. And it's an honor that we are a. tiny part of their guaranteed. documentary later about their football. lives. And today is no different. We got. a dude from Harrisburg High, Pennsylvania. He's 6'5,

285 lbs. >> 18year-old dog. His face and hair make. him look like Captain America. When his. picture hit the internet, I didn't think. anybody could really look like that. He's almost chiseled like he's a Greek. god, a statue of a man, an 18-year-old. high schooler who's one of the top. ranked offensive linemen in the world. Ladies and gentlemen, joining us now, Harrisburg High stud, Kevin Brown.

>> Y, >> how you doing? How we doing? Hey, I. didn't want to g you up too much, but I. think people needed to understand who. we're talking to here, you know. I hope. you didn't get too embarrassed for that. entire Yeah. Okay, good. Who do you have. with you here, Kevin? >> I have my dad, my mom, and my grandma. >> Uh, I see uh family. How are you doing? It's an honor to be a part of this uh. day with your family. Dad, hell yeah. Thank you for your service to the West. Virginia Mountaineers and uh as an NFL. stud. I appreciate the hell out of you. Now Kevin, obviously we talked about uh.

you being 6'5, 285 and now the world. knows your dad NFL lineman as well and. uh NFL stud. How long has the recruiting. process been for you and how has it gone. to get to this particular point? I know. obviously with everything that happens. in the college coaching role to kind of. change it a little bit, but how has your. recruiting time been in your life here, Kevin? I mean, it started when I was a. freshman. Trout Wine from Penn State. recruited me and then West Virginia was. my second offer and they just kept. piling on from there. And then in July.

of my sophomore year, I committed to. Penn State and that was awesome. I was. set. I was ready to go to Penn State and. then James Franklin gets fired and then. I got to open it back up and it was. stressful, man. for the past two months. texting 10 coaches a day and yeah, I. mean stressful but very blessed to be in. the situation I'm in. >> Yeah, anytime you have that much. attention, there's good reason. There's. a lot of hard work that has gone into.

you getting to this moment in your life. and uh obviously when there's a change. of a coach, a change of an entire. organization, you're allowed to. re-evaluate things as the school did for. themselves. After doing that, uh, I. think now would be a great time to let. the world know where you're headed next, Kevin. >> Yeah, I mean, I've been praying about. it, thinking about it, talking to my. parents, talking with coaches, and it's. clear to me where I have to go, and I'm. committing for the next 3 to four years. the University of West Virginia. BABY,

[screaming]. >> KEVIN, >> LET'S GO. COUNTRY ROAD. [screaming]. Take me home. [laughter] to the place. I BELONG. [screaming]. >> YOU GOING TO TAKE. >> WEST VIRGINIA. [singing]. >> YO. >> YEAH, BUDDY. CONGRATULATIONS. >> Where you taking this? >> I appreciate it. I have a special. surprise for you, man. >> All right. All right. All right.

>> You won't believe it, but. listen here. >> His dad. >> I'M BRINGING COUCH BURNING BACK TO. MORGAN TOWN, BABY. Let's do it. Yo, some. difficulties, but we're going to do it. [laughter]. My little brother, man. >> There it goes. There it goes. >> Okay, Kevin. I like that, [laughter]. KEVIN. I RESPECT. >> WE'RE BRINGING IT BACK, MAN. >> OKAY. OKAY. The people, THE MORGANTOWN. POLICE AREN'T GOING TO LOVE THAT,

[laughter]. BUT I'LL TELL YOU WHAT. >> KEEP ON with it, man. >> YOU GOT ONE. >> OH, YES. OKAY. HEY, we like the good OLD. DAYS OUT THERE, BABY. >> Big commitment W, baby. Let's do it. >> Okay. Uh, I like that we're celebrating. for sure in Morgantown with you coming. YES. >> YES. YES. YES. [laughter]. >> LET'S DO IT. >> HEY, DAD. >> OH, that's hot, baby. [laughter]. >> Yeah. It's going to be hot. Be careful. >> Yeah. You got to watch yourself. Listen, I'm not saying that. Oh, man. Look at. that fire. [laughter] Going. Going.

>> LET'S GO. OH, that's amazing. Hey, Dad. >> Dad, >> hold it still. >> Hold it. >> Hey, Dad. >> Yes. >> Hell yeah, man. Getting your boy to go. to West Virginia. I know you played for. Coach Rod back in the day. What do you. think though of this whole thing? I'm. obviously incredibly proud of our uh. alma mater. >> Yes. I'm super It's been a tough process. because the situation at West Virginia. Hold on one second. Hey guys. >> Okay.

>> Quiet. >> Yeah. You got to do what you got to do. Yeah. Coach. Hey, the situation at West. Virginia hasn't been good for the last. couple years and it's been tough uh with. the last couple coaches. Once Rod came. in, my stomach dropped because he's. already committed to West Virginia. I. mean, committed to Penn State and it's. been a it's been a it's been. heartbreaking for me since he's been a. sophomore because he's been committed so. early and then Franklin got fired and. all the situation at Penn State fell. apart. So, [snorts] it's it's been such. a blessing actually.

>> YEAH. HELL YEAH, GUYS. [laughter] HELL. YEAH, IT HAS. >> It really has been. >> And Kevin, let's talk about you. Yes. Okay, so you grew up obviously uh a West. Virginia fan, I would assume. I know. you're in the Penn State area, so. obviously you have friends and family. from there, but with your dad going to. West Virginia and obviously having a lot. of pride in West Virginia. You grew up. around the culture. You grew up around. Coach Rod and everybody. >> Yeah, grew up I mean No, no, not Coach. Rod. Uh Holerson. >> Okay, got it. >> Yeah, it was not the West Virginia. culture we know today. Like we went to a.

practice one day and they kicked us out. >> Like not a good feeling. >> Yeah. Yeah. Got it. Got it. Got it. Yeah. >> And then my sophomore year went to West. Virginia on a visit and the O line coach. didn't even watch my film. >> Okay. Like. >> All right. NOW, LET'S NOT TALK ABOUT. THOSE THINGS. [laughter] LET'S NOT TALK. ABOUT THOSE. LET'S TALK ABOUT THE. FUTURE. Let's talk about the future. this summer and like holy cow. Like. totally changed. I went to Georgia, Alabama, Auburn, and West Virginia's. facilities, coaches, and everything was.

just elite. >> Hell yeah. We appreciate the hell out of. you, man. I can't wait to watch you. change the program. I can't wait to. watch you kind of experience life. I. will keep in touch. Please tell your dad. and family. We said thank you. And. Kevin, good luck out there, brother. You're the man. >> I appreciate it. >> Hell yeah. Ladies and gentlemen, you. >> Yeah. Hell yeah. That's West Virginia. University Mountaineer Kevin Brown. >> Yeah. Guy's a mad man. >> Wow. >> I have a surprise for you at the end. >> Yeah. [laughter]. >> Is what he told me. I had no idea what.

it was. I I had no idea what that was. >> I thought it was like a painting. >> Yeah. I talked to him this morning. I'm. getting a chance I've gotten a chance to. catch up with him here. I mean, you're. talking about a guy that's committed to. ball, bro. I I mean, you're just like. all these other guys that we talked to, AJ, and obviously Ohio State was on the. board there. And we did keep AJ off the. screen. >> Yeah. >> Wait a [laughter] minute. Is that AJ. Hall? >> Yeah, we do. Yeah. There was no way you. were going to slide in there. Okay. There was no way you were going to slide. in there. Obviously, Penn State was a. part of the original uh commitment and. then whenever they changed their mind,

he did the same thing. And I wasn't. letting BA talk in there either, [laughter] you know, cuz Frank left. >> Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. Exactly. So, we. were keeping everybody off camera for. that particular time. That's huge for. West Virginia. AJ, obviously, you guys. experience this at Ohio State a lot, but. with what Coach Rod is trying to build, we got a freshman quarterback in Scotty. Fox who's a dog. Okay. He's an absolute. dog. A beast this guy. Not where not. scared of [laughter] anything. And then. we get like a tone setter offensive. lineman. I think it kind of sets the. stage for what type of team we want to.

be and what a hard edge team is. I think. it's like a big precedent setter for the. entire culture this type of [ __ ] AJ. >> Oh, absolutely. And just I mean after. these I love watching the highlights of. them, but that that first still shot. that photo you guys had of him kind of. like at a camp or whatever it was, that's not that's a high school kid. Like he hasn't even grown into his body. yet. That's what's freakish about all. that. And talk about like a legacy. His. dad played there. His dad understands. what it's about. And he seems to already. understand the culture, man. Like this. is that's a big day for for West. Virginia, honestly. >> Yeah. Huge day for us. And it seems like.

a huge day for the dad, too. >> Oh god. Really cool. >> This clip is awesome. [laughter]. >> Yeah, he's this is his huddle. This is. the first minute of his huddle. highlight. Uh there is more obviously. and he's only going to continue. They're. in the uh I think the quarterfinals. state uh this upcoming Friday. I I think. he, you know, he talked about all the. text messages and everything that was. happening throughout the last uh couple. months since the Penn State uh change. with that. I think he was excited to get. this over like. >> Oh, I bet it. >> it felt like he was excited to kind of. get it out there. What a moment. And.

then, hey, >> we are taking it back. He said, get the. couches ready. And I like how prime they. had. Do you see the gasoline there? >> Oh, yeah. Unbelievable. >> Yeah, they had gas ready for that thing. They've lit a fire or two before. I'll. say I mean they have certainly been. around it. >> for sure. There's no doubt about it. >> What a moment though there, coach. Like. honestly. Um. >> yeah, that that's one of the biggest. days of your life when you when you get. it all off of you and you're committed. and you're excited and you get to sign. that scholarship. It's amazing. >> And now we just kind of focus on just. going forward with ball. Now granted,

there's a chance, you know, I mean, we West Virginia [ __ ] around. wins the national championship next. year. >> I don't see why not. >> Okay. >> Yeah. >> Thank god Rich Rod's back that tape. I. mean, old line coach is even watching. just watch three plays. That's that. that's in the past. >> We don't know what. >> I'm saying. Thank God Rich. [laughter]. >> We don't you know I wasn't really I mean. >> I mean I wanted a Hall of Fame this. year. You know it wasn't it wasn't. because of previous years. I don't. believe you you know there there isn't.

necessarily that. But on that note I. think each team was trying their best. for West Virginia. You know like each. organization kind of ran themselves a. little bit differently. I think when. Dana got to West Virginia they went to. the Big 12. It was like a big different. They painted the walls basically. It was. like, "Hey, we're a brand new fr new. team." I think they tried to get better. in schooling. Like the academics were. like they tried to reranchise almost. every part of it and they had success, you know, cuz Gino and Tavon were. unbelievably electrifying and they won a. BCS game. So, it was a big deal, you.

know. So, they had a brand new era. almost. So, our era that had just. basically finished, which was the most. successful. maybe ever. Now, the boys back in the. day uh could have been in a national. championship. So I don't want to. disrespect them, but Pat White won five. bowl games, including a senior bowl, two. of them being BCS. And if it wasn't for. a kicker, missing a couple kicks in the. first quarter, we probably in a national. championship, he probably wins it as. well. So we were an unbelievable uh. team, but they were trying to move on. from our era. They were trying to move. on from the Rich. They were trying to. move on from everything we were. So I.

understand what they were trying to do. It didn't work out. And then Neil Bryan. comes in and uh that didn't work out. And that was vastly different than what. I had experienced. You know, it was just. it was hard for our thing I think our. group to relate to these groups as well. just because vastly different styles of. everything. Just. >> everything was completely different. So. then Richrod comes back and it almost. felt like I think the group that played. for him at the beginning felt like oh. we're allowed or we're welcome back home. again because we're allowed to talk. about everything that kind of happened.

in the past. And I think that's what. shined through right there in that. conversation the most where some of the. things he wanted to say is like. >> it felt like Kevin was like I wanted to. be a West Virginia guy. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Like and like I wanted my dad was in. there but like they were so focused on. like not thinking about the past like. this guy played for the last we're not. even thinking about that. We're trying. to do it differently. You know if that. would have worked it would have been. great but obviously Rich Rod's back and. now it feels like there's a little bit. of a hard edge. Joining us now is a man. who's just looking for this this far. >> It's all he's looking for. head coach of.

the West Virginia Mountaineers. A man. who cannot say a recruit's name in. public or on media until they sign a. commitment scholarship. Head coach of. the West Virginia Mountaineer football. team, Rich Rodriguez. >> How you doing, coach? >> What's going on, guys? >> Hey. Uh, >> hey. I hope we're having a good day, I. guess. >> Yeah. [laughter] Yeah. I think uh I. think you're having a pretty good day. There's a celebration happening around. West Virginia. Obviously, you can't say. any names of any recruits, but what does.

the future look like for the West. Virginia Mountaineers on this particular. >> day? I can't say any names, any. recruits, but we're having a great day. Uh I hear there's couches that are. burning. You know, there's. >> there's uh and and this mount is now. gotten down to that. >> Yeah. [laughter]. Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. >> From what I from what I understand. So, uh it's all good. It's a it's a process, but uh BA can tell you it's sure a hell. of a lot easier to get that much when.

you got big people that move other big. people against their will. >> Okay. So, let's talk about people that. can do that. Uh I've learned of these. 18y olds, okay, that are like, I don't. know, 6'4 to 66 range, like 275 to like. 295. It feels like at a younger age, they're getting more strong, more. mature. but also off the field it feels. like they understand business more. Uh. we just talked to a guy who uh committed. to a place. He said he had been. recruited basically since his freshman.

year. This is also during the NIL era. Whenever you're talking to future. players of your team, does it feel like. they're a more mature bunch? And does it. feel like they're able to understand. what you're looking for easier? Because. it feels like you have to be able to buy. into the culture if you really want to. transform a place. >> Yeah, there is. But you know what, Pat? You still as a coach, you want to find a. guy that has all those athletic ability, the size, the speed, the strength, the. athleticism, but also a guy that just. loves football, not likes it, but loves. it and needs it. And if you find that.

guy that has all that ability and the. size and strength and all that, and he. really loves football, he loves to work, he loves the hard edge mentality, then. you got everything you want in a guy. And that's what we're doing or trying to. get right now. We want those guys. And. uh they're out there. >> and they're going to come. >> and they're going to come and some of. them are going to come to West Virginia. >> Yes, they are. And guess what they're. going to do? Hey, they're going to win. some games and I think we're going to. put a product on a field that resembles.

the old school days. I I don't know if. you've kept in touch or kept up with. West Virginia football since you leave. and obviously have your own coaching. journey and what West Virginia kind of. went through and the cycles of it all, but it does have a lot of people saying, "Hey, it feels like the old days." Now, obviously you were coaching in the old. days, but from the people that I talked. to that went back for the Sugar Bowl. reunion and even from other sports, basketball players even were like, "Hey, this feels like the times when West. Virginia sports was something that was. unique, different than everybody else,

playing a different style and a. different type of edge, hard edge, and. everybody else, but also successful. Does it feel like that right now? And is. this what you were envisioning when you. chose to come back?". >> Yeah, it did, Pat. And, you know, we we. knew we were going to have some road. bumps. We didn't expect to to be playing. four quarterbacks and five tailbacks and. all that kind of stuff injury-wise, but. we also knew that we had to make sure we. set the culture the first year. We make. not, you know, no matter what happens, our culture, our hard edge, our our work. ethic, our toughness, all those kind of.

stuff has to be set this year. And. that's painful sometimes in the process. of doing that. But, uh, we think we're. getting there. We're not all the way. there. And it's a hell of a lot easier. to do that when you get the right guys. on your roster, which we have some, but. we're going to we're going to we're. going to have a whole lot more, too. And. you know, this time next year, uh, we. expect to be talking about the playoffs. and winning the championships and all. that stuff. >> Hell yeah. Hell yeah. Me, too. Connor. has a question for you. >> Yeah. Coach, how big is it when you land. recruits or guys in the transfer portal. that are very familiar with the Rich Rod.

hard edge way? Do you feel as though. that kind of gives you a leg up? And. what do you think that says about the. hard edgeway when people are aware of. what it means and they still want to. come play for you? >> Yeah, that that that's a good point. You. know, you you know, we think we could. train if you once the culture is. established, the only ones you got to. teach are the new ones coming in, right? But still, it's it's is it difficult a. little bit more different nowadays. I. say compare it to like 20 years ago, you. tell a guy, hey, just run through the. wall, he'll do it, not ask any. questions. Now, they'll still do it, but.

they want to know why. If you don't give. them the right answer, they're googling. and say, "Well, it ain't what it says on. Google." So the damn the damn guys are. smarter now. But that doesn't mean they. can't be they can't they're not willing. to do it. And I think as a coach, you. cannot sacrifice that part of that. Doesn't mean we're like, you know, grinding full pads every day and. knocking the crap out of each other. every minute. But it does mean you have. to be mentally and physically tough. And. that to me, I don't think that just. serves you well in football, but it. serves you well, you know, the next 40, 50 years of life. If ever if a young guy. thinks I'm not going to face adversity.

in the next 50 years of my life, you're. crazy. Or you're smoking a lot more weed. than I think. You know what I'm saying? [laughter]. >> Well, well, I don't know if I was. smoking more than he thought. >> You know, so the guy the guy's got to. understand there's going to be adversity. and we want our guys to learn to handle. adversity better than anybody in the. country. And not just on the field, but. off the field. >> Yeah. I think I feel like I am uh a. product of your Rich Rodriguez football. camp I would say as life and also Mike. Baris. I mean, you and Mike Barrow was. together.

I'm not saying no because we like Mike. Joseph. Mike Joseph is great strength. coach. We're not going to talk about it, but you and Mike Barrow was together uh. were something that set me up for the. rest of my life for sure. And I think. there's a lot of people Go ahead. >> Yeah. But you had you you had the. hardest edge of any specialist I've ever. had. >> Thank you. >> And so, but but I must tr. And then. every guy after that, every specialist. after that said, "Well, you know, if you. want to know what kind of hard edge. you're supposed to be as a kicker or. punter or specialist, watch Pat McAfee, you know what I mean?" And that that to. me is how we built our program, you.

know, 20 years ago. And that's how we. can build it today. >> Yeah. They need to make more kicks than. me, but god damn it, YOU CAN THROW THE. BODY AROUND A LITTLE bit if you need to. Uh let's talk about though, uh his dad. Uh sorry, [clears throat] not his dad. Uh actually, let's get out of here. Let's talk about we'll talk about some. former players if I you know the thing I. feel best about this sounds kind of. polyianish. >> you know the ultimate goal is to win. champions and all that but if I if every. player that ever played for me or in our. program and you ask them 20 years from. now would you do it all over again at.

the same place with the same people and. they said yes then we did our job. So, I. feel really really proud when I have. former players of mine uh that are now. I'm so old they're get they either got. their kids or somebody they coach or. something like that that they're. recommend to play for us. That to me. feels an awful lot of pride in in our. program. >> Yeah. And everybody feels welcomed back. and wants to go back and wants to talk. [ __ ] about being a part of what you. built there. You need to know that like. that reunion I watched from afar. I. wasn't able to be at obviously because. college game day kind of infringes on.

all these Saturday things. I'm lucky to. be a part of it. I'm not saying it's. not, but there's been a lot of great. things that have happened at West. Virginia this year that I haven't been. able to make it to that would have been. sweet uh because of College Game Day. But on that note, I was following along. with everybody that weekend. They're. like, everybody's pumped. Like. everybody's pumped and Scotty Fox and. even though you know you lose this this. past week, just get this much. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That right there. We'll fix that. >> Yeah. I heard I heard you got Yep. I. heard you're going to find heard you're. going to find maybe some people to help. fix that on that last question here from.

Ty Schmidt. Yeah, coach, when it comes. to a press conference like that, how how. hard is it to keep your composure and. not just jump some guy's ass when you. know you there it's very clear, hey, there's one point I want to get across. here. I know you guys are asking me a. bunch of other questions. There's one. point I'm trying to get across right. here. And did you feel after the fact. like, you know what, I'm really proud of. myself. That is that is a a big, you. know, moment of personal growth for me. because in years past, I might have just.

jumped that guy's ass and that guy's ass. and that guy's ass. [laughter]. >> Yeah, I've I've matured over the years. Not completely 100%. I still got He. didn't see me 15 minutes before that uh. [laughter]. presser in the locker room. I was not I. wasn't a pleasant person. But I I've. learned to cool down, take my 10 minutes. before I talk to the fine media that are. asking the fine questions and then go. out there. And I didn't have a speed bag. on the road to hit before I had my press. conference. So I had to take 10 minutes. and take it out on the lockers.

>> You after an answer taking a drink. breathing. Okay. And then they ask you. about they ask you about Scotty Fox and. you want to continue to just talk about. how I am so disgusted that our team. cannot get that like everything that is. against a hard edge in Rich Rodriguez's. football is being able to get this when. the other team knows that you need it. All you wanted to talk about was that. and then they go, "Uh, tell us about. Scotty Fox." And you watch your brain. go, I like Scotty Fox. >> Yeah, he's a competitor. >> This guy's a good player. He's.

>> It starts with big people moving other. people against their will. We And when. we get that part fixed, we will no. longer have this in the press. conference. >> Yeah, that's right. I can't wait to. watch it. Seems like today might have. been a good day to get rid of that right. there. You're the best. >> That's what I hear. I hear great. What's. up? >> YEAH. DON'T TALK ABOUT IT. DON'T TALK. ABOUT IT, LADIES and gentlemen. Talk. about Yeah. Coach Raw. >> Yeah, coach. >> Not allowed to say I We were dancing. there close. I was getting real too. close me to saying his name and I think. it would have kind of carried over. there. Let's not ruin the day. But I.

mean that is a uh Yeah, that's a pillar. mover, you know. >> Yeah. >> For us legit. >> Mass. And uh. >> thank you. >> Imagine the effect it has. Sorry about. I'm sorry, but imagine the effect like. the way that watching him finish that. the highlight the highlights you keep. running watching him finish every single. play. sometimes three, four, five, six. guys like four or five, six guys like on. the ground that just having one guy like. that on your O line has such a trickle. down effect and everybody like it's it. makes everybody play better than your if. your whole O line is doing that like.

good luck anybody stopping. >> and look at listen to his dad talk. I've. been heartbroken since sophomore year. He was a mountaineer because what was. going on West Virginia was just not what. I was looking for. Like he O lineman too. in the past and I got a chance to chat. with uh Kevin over the last 24 hours, you know, and kind of learn a little bit. about him. His dad obviously very active. in the hey this is how we're doing as O. lineman and he is since a boy like hey. this guy is going to be a people mover. That is what he is. So his mentality is. old school offensive lineman as well and. I think his lifestyle is old school.

offensive lineman mentality. him coming. on the show uh to do that I I don't. think was like necessarily his thing. I. think they were like, "Hey, would you". and he was like, "Yeah, I'll do it. I. don't want to do the hats and all that.". He was like, "I I don't want Yesterday. he was even asking like, "What am I. supposed to. >> Should I do like a hat thing? I I. don't." And I was like, "I think you. should do some sort of declaration that. your head is there. Do I need a camera? I don't even like He did not like old. school offense. Still had the whole. thing. Yeah, AirPods. What do I How do I.

even do it?" So, it's like this guy. might be, even though he looks like. Captain America and Mr. Incredible and. all those different things that are. cartoonish characters that you don't. think can actually be in real life. because they seemingly are too perfect. of humans. His jawline is literally a. home plate. I mean, it really is. And. his hair flows, but in mentality, I. think he's like an old school old school. offensive lineman. And gez, if you're. Rich Rodriguez, that is the exact thing. that you need on this team. >> Yeah, he's more Paul Bunan than Captain. America, which is kind of exactly what. you want in a lineman. How big is it too. just having a guy in your recruiting.

class that can tell the other recruits. like, "Hey, this is what it's going to. be." Like that kid knows probably more. than anybody who's going to be a. freshman or even transfer in there that. hasn't been part of a Rich Rod program. Like my dad has taught me and has. prepared me for what this is. I've heard. about it my whole life. Like that also. just radiates throughout the rest of the. freshman class. And like to your point. about he didn't really know what to do. Feels like the only thing you want to do. is burn that. Yeah. >> Yeah. Last night he was like, "Ah, I got. a surprise treat at the very end." Like. he was like teasing this last night.

Then I talked to him this morning. He's. like, "Just wait till the very end. >> Can't tell you.". >> Yeah. Yeah. Can't tell. You're not going. to see it. And then this is local media. >> Nailed it. >> Local media. >> You think they put it out yet? You think. they put it out? >> The fire. Yeah. That thing's burning to. the ground, brother. You let that one go. out. You know, you celebrate that thing. kind of living its full fire. You know, you let the final bristles burn out. there. I've seen a couple of those. You. know, the final the final flames of a. few different couches. I'll tell you the. Morgantown Police Department's not going. to be bumped about that. I mean, they've. tried to put an end to that pretty. quickly. >> They were offering cit they were giving.

citations to people through social media. posts. >> So, they Yeah. They were like finding. people in pictures of fires on couches. this year, earlier this year. And I was. getting messages like, "Hey, you need to. do something." It's like, I don't know. >> You want me to do. >> I don't know. I don't know what are you. doing. >> I'm trying to be the mayor. What do you. want me to be the mayor? I will run next. year, I guess, but I don't know how long. is the terms. I don't know what I can. do. But yeah, I guess they thought I. guess say Morgantown decided that that. was not necessarily the best thing to. have it. And I would like to speak I. guess from the perspective of the. Morgantown Police Department and. Morgantown people that voted for that.

There were some nights there. We were. winning a lot. We were winning a lot of. things. I mean, we were winning a lot of. things. We had a lot to celebrate. That's a Yukon grad over there who was. in the Big East. >> West Virginia was winning all over the. place. I mean, big games, big moments, prime time, >> multiple sports, >> night games, every all year. Yeah, >> we're doing this all year and boy that. it it wasn't I don't think the hardest. school to get into. Normally good time. crowd went to West Virginia from New. Jersey, you know, a lot of New Jersey, a. lot of East Coast in there. West. Virginia people are good time people.

So, a lot of good time people, lot of. opportunity, lot of very big successful. moments. I mean, we we had good times. out there. There was a lot of partying. and and the couches became the thing. What doesn't get talked about with the. couches is obviously the couch is right. in the middle of the street stacked up. like six wide. Okay. Six down head to. toe. Bum bum bum bum bum right down the. middle of the street. There's cars next. to you know some of these things start. one obviously you start try to start. them all but they will eventually carry. into itself. What the ripple effect is.

it that nobody really thinks about that. I saw the first time I was really a part. of one. People are throwing [ __ ] into. fire. >> Sure. >> So now you're getting bottles tossed. into couch fire. So now you know uh boom. boom boom from houses. Boom. You know, so you got. >> fireworks thrown into the fires too. Sometimes throw some fireworks in there. >> Not water bottles either. >> No. Yeah. No. No. No. Not water bottles. We're talking glass bottles out there. [laughter] Obviously they're going and. then what's a broken glass walk? >> That song plays and then people come.

running out and then there's more. So. >> I've seen an entire streak get kind of. taken out. you know, just like bottles. underneath cars, cars partially burnt, you know, like the rearview mirror. So, it I mean, it does get a bit dangerous, I guess. But if there's one cach in a. neighborhood that wants to kind of be. celebrated a little bit, I think that's. going to probably continue to happen. >> If they win 10 games next year, I I have. a feeling that they're going to be. turning some blind eyes to they're going. to build a couch park. >> Yeah. A couch park. >> Come out and burn all your couches in. the park.

>> Throw your bottles in here. >> Okay. >> No cars. Okay. So, Owen Schmidt. actually, I think, pitched that idea to. me the last time that we were back. there. We were we were like, I don't. know, maybe a lot of beers, a lot of. beers, a lot of whisies. I mean, a lot. of a lot of them deep. And I was like, what's going to happen with the whole. couch fire thing? Because at that time, it was starting to get talked about. about how like they're going to maybe. arrest people for this entire thing. And. I'm like, well, it's kind of a part of. the culture. I don't know how you just. kind of get rid of that. He goes, "We. need to make a place that just is kind. of built for it and say, "Hey, either.

we'll supply the couch, you just go have. like around a corner like it's a golf. sim, you know, basically like kind of. get your own little area where you do. it." He's like, "This is what needs to. happen." Feels like you're thinking the. same thing. It would have to be just. what a massive parking lot, right? >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Nothing around it that could catch. fire. That's the main thing. >> Don't let it get to anything else. Whatever the case, Kevin Brown is gonna. be just throwing people on the field as. soon as that game's over. I mean, >> Yep. >> Yeah. [laughter]. >> Couch maybe.

>> Two couches. Two of them. Both. shoulders. >> Shout out to West Virginia. We're having. a good week. >> Yeah. Let's go. >> Yeah. >> We up. >> Yeah. >> Basketball recruit. >> Oh, don't remember his name. He's. Canadian though. >> Miles. >> Miles. Miles. >> Miles Adler. >> at Miles Adler. >> I don't know. >> Sadler, I think. >> Sadler. >> Miles Sadler. Miles Sadler. Boom. >> Boom. No. >> Boom. Thank you. WVU Bar stool breaking.

fivear Miles Saders the other day. Now. Kevin Brown 65 285 offensive lineman. What will tomorrow bring? >> I'm joking. I said that yesterday cuz I. knew this was happening. I I don't have. anything. Let's move along. Let's get. back to some NFL football conversation, shall we? AJ, you know, every week we. have a coach who uh coached football for. 47 years, and there's different. narratives that are maybe starting to. build around the NFL. So, we want to ask. him if it's BS or no BS with BA. What. we'll do is we'll read some statements.

of fact that maybe some fans feel and BA. will tell us if it's BS, which stands. for [ __ ] or is it no BS, which is. no [ __ ] Let's get started. Con man. Yeah, analytics are in football and so. the statement is some of these nerds'. stats are ruining football, particularly. the Commanders in Lions this past. weekend. >> No [ __ ]. >> Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. >> I mean, come on. The this go for it on. fourth and one with a minute 20 left. You kick the field goal and go ahead and.

win the game. Trust your defense. You. don't tie ball game. Now, I see it in. the first quarter, you know, but not at. the end of the game. And then you know. the Lions they were what 0 for six. >> Yeah. >> In this one I know there was a lot of. wind. It didn't affect Jake Elliott and. it it didn't fake baked at the end. He. kicked the bomb down there. No problem. Those in big games three points are. huge. >> And we're not saying that all these. stats. >> No no just in big games this going for.

it on four downs gotten out of hand. Kick the damn field goals and put points. on the board. >> There's no context to these stats. This. is a big game. KG affair. Points are at. a premium right now. Let's go ahead and. take that. The book can't tell you how. the whole rest of the game has been. going that your eyes and your body has. felt, right? Is what you're saying? >> Yeah. And I was just on that committee. We interviewed 20 head coaches in. college and one guy actually had the. book and it's like you have the book and. yeah, I don't use it, but I if I need. it, I know what it says, but this game.

is about heart and feel. And that is. what this game is about. >> Hold on, hold on, hold on. So, you're. interviewing these guys, 20 guys, and. you go, you know, there's some book that. says you should make game time decision. >> First thing I ask him. >> and this guy goes, I actually have the. book and in your mind you said not. hiring this guy and then you had to have. a fake conversation with him. >> No, I had a good and I will hire this. guy because. >> he doesn't follow it. He just knows what. it says. >> He said that book doesn't know if my. right guard can block that damn three. technique. >> Okay. So, he understands. >> he understands football. Yeah.

>> You know, not the the mathematicians. don't understand football. >> Yeah. >> They just know numbers. >> Yeah. 80% of the time this happens. Well, what about that 20%. And what if. that's tonight in a game that very much. matters for our livelihoods. >> Yeah. I mean, for me, it it's gotten to. completely out of hand and it's a total. [ __ ] excuse. Oh, the book told me to. go for it. >> No accountability. >> Exactly. Book gone. >> Yeah. Blame the book. >> It's the analytics like Bible. >> Yeah. Who had it? Will you tell us who. wrote that? >> Yeah. Who wrote the book? We know who. wrote the book.

>> Ernie Adams. >> Oh, yeah. It's in the book. >> Oh yeah, you're right. >> I don't think it's Billy Walter sports. gambling book. >> It's not. >> Seth. >> The guy we just was on the internet with. like. >> who followers forgot his last Walder. >> Seth Walder. >> Boom. HE WROTE IT. >> OH, >> LORD SHARP. >> He might have wrote it. >> He has. >> He does have a big book. >> He might have like the New Testament of. this one. >> Well, if it's the old Old Testament of. this one. >> Who else writes Yeah. Who else writes.

>> Did Digs write one of them? Did Did you. write the book on ball? [laughter]. >> No. >> Wasn't told. Okay. >> Who wrote the book? >> That's a big That's a million-dollar. question, brother. >> Everybody has it. >> Everybody's got it, but nobody knew who. the [ __ ] wrote it. It wasn't Shula. It. wasn't Lombard [laughter]. for sure. >> Did you have uh an analytics, I guess, department that had that can get your. ear during a game at towards any? Never. >> I refuse to. Okay. A lot of people a lot.

of lot of people do and it's the hottest. thing going and I would probably if I. was back in coaching. >> I would say yes. Shut the [ __ ] up. [laughter]. >> Thank you for your input. Shut the [ __ ]. up. [laughter]. [cough]. >> Like. >> okay. >> this is a new profession for people. there. Like each team has one of these. people that are basically in the year. 64% of the time on this particular down. against this particular run. you're able. to pick it up with the run versus pass.

Uh 68% of the time you should say you. should go for this instead of a punt or. kick a field goal because that will work. out. Somebody's doing that, you know, and not necessarily always that voice. That's unfair of me to do that voice. But that information is getting. delivered to somebody. That's a whole. new job. There's a whole new department. There's stats departments now, let alone. stats coordinators who are messaging in. information throughout days. And I love. that you're like, "Yeah, don't need to. hear it. We're not hiring any of them.". Okay. Can our team run the ball to the. right? >> That's what I thought. We need a play.

We're running it to the right. >> I'm behind Joe Thomas. >> Yeah, exactly. >> Yeah, I I'll make it behind Joe Thomas. >> But like if you look at two or three of. the most dysfunctional organizations in. the league right now, >> analytics. >> Okay. >> He just sat back, too. Did you hear. that? [laughter]. >> He did the whole Excuse me. This uh. there's a moment of silence here. immediately for your brain to shatter as. I just said everything that you guys. have been pitching is wrong. Old school. football still back on top. More. analytics not necessarily great. Uh.

better analytics good though. Yeah. Like. having analytics is good. I I think. that's. >> part of the puzzle. It's all part of it. Yeah. I think it's all part of it. Like. coach Ba says like Yeah. You got to. trust your instincts and your feel. And. you got to know matchups too. Like where. where do we have it like an advantage. when it comes to matchups? I don't I. don't know analytics and all the book. well enough to know if it can take any. of that into account. >> You didn't write it. >> I didn't. And we don't know. It's what. is it? Bitcoin. We don't know who. started it. We don't know who wrote the. >> kind of know now. Get some answers. >> There's allegedly some answers out. there. And I don't know if I'm on the. right side of history or not still at.

this moment with all the information. coming out on that stuff, >> you know, cuz I uh Oh, I'm in the right. side. >> Yeah, you're on the right side for sure. >> Okay. What they're saying? >> I DON'T KNOW. >> OKAY. SEE, I'M never [laughter]. >> Let's move along. We don't need to talk. about that. But the book is certainly a. weapon if it's utilized that way as. opposed to being uh like a way of life. The book is because to your point, I. never liked whenever it was just kind of. blamed on numbers, you know? So, whenever they put it up on the screen,

it always says go go go go. It feels. like it's always an excuse for the team. to go for it, which I think is better. for TV and everything like that. But. man, I if you look in the eyes of your. offensive line and those boys feel. defeated, I think the stats are going to. be a little bit different that. particular evening on that particular. fourth quarter than maybe in years past. >> Are you strictly by the book on the. blackjack table or you play more like. Bill? >> I'm a field guy, but I'm a book guy as. well. >> Okay. >> I am book. I'm a book culture guy. >> So 16, if you hit it from the beginning, you do that the rest of the day.

>> I'm hitting on 16. Yes, cuz my hand. doesn't even qualify. So I need to. qualify to at least play. >> Different. That's different than. football analytics when it comes to the. book and blackjack. Yeah, I will hit on. 16. Now granted, I'm splitting. I'm. splitting and putting more money on the. table if they have a bus card. Some. people around me do not get happy about. that, but if I have the opportunity to. split and or double down, get more money. on the table when they have three. Nah, maybe three. Three is kind of a dancer. with me. But if they got four, five, or. six out on uh showing, I'm trying to get. as much [ __ ] on the table as possible. Not everybody loves that. I don't think.

that's necessarily by the book, okay? Like maybe a six, you should do that. Not a four. For me, I see four out there. and I have an opportunity to split and. then I get a chance to double down. [laughter]. >> Oh, let's do this thing. And then that. pisses some people off. I do believe in. the blackjack book from my. understanding. >> Also kind of what kind of separates the. great coaches from the good ones too. The ones that use analytics when it is. needed like and when they ignore it and. decide like no now is my time where I. can you know the dagger play with the. with the Eagles in the Super Bowl. You. could argue where there it's like, hey,

you're midfield. Do you want you're. already up big. Do you just run out the. clock, kind of continue to chew this. thing out, or do you take that dagger. shot and go up by four touchdowns. instead of, you know, three in a field. goal? >> And that's football. >> That's football. Understanding football. So, you're saying that there's some of. these nerd stats are ruining football. That's no BS. Let's go to the next BS or. no BS would be a Tai. >> Yeah, coach. There's a thought that. outside of the NFC East, the NFC stands. for no fudging clue on who's going to. win. Is that BS or no BSBA?

>> That's no BS, man. I mean, you look at. those three divisions. They are December. football is going to be great this year. That's one of the part of NFL scheduling. I really like. Now, I don't like playing. a team two two times in three weeks. >> like the the Bucks and the Panthers are. going to have to do, but all those teams. play each other in December. December. football is going to be outstanding. That's when it's supposed to be decided. and the entire N other than the Eagles. probably. And it's going to be really. fun to see who makes that wild card,

that last wild card because the there's. some really good teams not going to make. it this year. >> Yeah. Here's the road to the playoffs. for each one of the teams that currently. lead their divisions. Obviously, the. Eagles in the East is UBA is talking. about not really having a fudging. question about whether or not they're. going to win the division. Every other. division in the NFC is. >> potentially up for grabs. Everybody has. a lot of wins. Everybody is kind of in. the same exact plane. And uh couple wins. one week, couple losses the other week. You can completely have a full shift. from four to one in the NFC side. So.

that means that wild card is going to be. dis. What do you think? What number you. think is the wild card right now with. where everybody's sitting? Can you put. the records back up for um the teams in. the NFC? Yeah. Here we go. So NFC, look. at that. 7664. in the North, 663 and two. You could. kind of rule out the Saints out of this. entire thing. probably the Falcons as. well. 877 over there in the West and. then 8432. I guess the East is over. How. many wins do you think make you the the. wild card? >> You're going to have to have 10. You're. going to have to have 10. I mean, there's been 11 and six teams not making.

this could be a year for that, too. And. a tiebreaker. You know, the tiebreaker. is going to be huge. All this fantasy. stuff. It's going to be fun going down. December watching it this year. >> Here's the current NFC playoff situation. with the Lions and Panthers lurking. Congrats to the Panthers. Yeah, >> congrats to the Panthers being in that. conversation. >> Listen, dude. I'm gonna shout out to. Harold Goodwin, man. Their run game. coordinator. Good. >> He's got it going, man. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Goodies obviously got them. rolling. And Bryce Young just broke a. franchise record. Eagles, Rams, Bears,

Bucks, Seahawks, Packers, and Niners. round out the top seven in the NFC right. now. That could all change except for. probably up at one and two if we had to. guess because obviously the other. divisions can be up for grabs. Let's go. to the third BS or no BS with BA. >> Let's do it. Most disappointing teams in. the NFL this season are the Falcons, Bengals, Cardinals, Commanders, Dolphins, and Raiders. That BS or no BS, >> that's total BS. >> What? >> The most disappointing team in the. league is the Kansas City Chiefs.

>> WE went we went from winning 12-0 in one. score games to 0 and six in one score. games. What? How does that happen in one. year with the same players, >> um same coaching staff? I had I kept. saying Chiefs are going to pull it out. Chiefs are going to pull it out and they. keep losing these closed games and they. got their guys back now. So, they're. fully healthy. >> Something's missing. And uh I don't know. what it is because I love Andy Reid. I. love Spags. I think they all great. coaches. >> but you know that throw by Patrick.

Mahomes that didn't happen. Yeah, >> that never happened. And uh something. something's missing with this team. And. I don't know what it is, but they're. they're disappointing to me. Most. disappointing. I think we all are not. expecting this Chiefs team to be the way. that they currently are. Sports books. are still scared to death that they're. going to go on a run. I think everybody. is because they just like you just. stated, they're always going to turn on. They're going to turn it on. Patrick. Mahomes has been taking a lot of hits. this year. A lot of hits. He's been. running the ball a lot. He's been. getting shot. I think some of his passes. may be different than what they have. been in the past. Is Patrick Mahomes a.

little bit different than maybe he was? Is the offense a little bit different? Maybe they find their groove. Maybe this. is just a down year for the Chiefs in. the middle of their dynasty and they're. going to have to ask some hard questions. at the end of the season. Oh no. >> Well, we'll also see because we said. like the I don't know if you would say. it's a must-win, but it kind of is. Like. this Sunday against the Colts is kind of. a must-win game for them and then they. have a a short week turnaround. They. play the Cowboys on Thanksgiving and. that'll be kind of the big like if they. go out there and beat the hell out of. the Cowboys on Thanksgiving with 50. million, you know, 70 million people.

watching it, I think that following. Monday people will be like, "Oh, wow. Wait a minute. Chiefs are all the way. back. >> Chiefs is still the Chiefs cuz we're. just looking for something like as a. Chiefs fan. All I'm doing is looking for. something in there that resembles the. Chiefs. And then you watch them kind of. play against the Broncos and it's like. >> I'm a little worried about this. >> Good kick by Bucker. >> Yeah. But aside from that, >> Harvey can't point to one thing that. like you can't point to like one glaring. weakness that's going on. It just looks. weird. It looks discombobulated. >> Well, boys, good luck.

>> And I'm disappointed as well. And then. we added a last one just to kind of test. your integrity here. BS or no BSBA? James Franklin will have the Hokes of. Virginia Tech in the ACC championship. game in three years. >> That's no BS for sure, brother. He's. going to have him going and. >> he should have hired him last week and. we maybe talking to a different couch. burner over there. [laughter]. >> No, no, no, no. He was doing He had those. country roads taking them. >> He had pop and he That was That's a. great one for him. I love when sons.

father their fathers. >> But on that note, James Franklin had him. to Penn State and then whenever Penn. State leaves James, he's like, "All. right, James Franklin got him out of his. West Virginia family." And that's how. good of a coach he is. I think that's. how much people respect him and I think. it's a perfect hire for Virginia Tech, honestly. >> Awesome. Yeah, he's he does great job. He'll do a hell of a job recruiting and. u you know, his record speak for itself. >> All right, on the way out here on ESPN, we have two BA game bowls. Let's start. with the NFC. Bryce Young. >> 31 of 45 448 three touchdowns and 3027.

OT win over Atlanta. A lot of questions. obviously around Atlanta. Quarterback. gets hurt. Wide receiver gets hurt. Carolina Panthers are now lurking. Congrats to them and to Bryce Young. And. the AFC BA game ball is Jaquan McMillan. >> Wow. >> Six tackles, two sacks, one. interception. I love that you're giving. it to a defensive guy. It was hard not. to give it to Josh Allen because what he. [laughter] did, but that was an. unbelievable performance in the biggest. game of the week. I thought. >> three touchdowns on the ground, three. through the sky. Who's Josh Allen? Get.

him out of here. >> First Bronco to ever put that stat line. up. >> Yep. >> Warranted. Congrats to him. >> First game of his career. >> Shout out to UBA. We continue. [laughter]. He's been around. We continue digitally. Uh we'll see you tomorrow. Goodbye. Really nailed that one. Even had that on. the end. >> Yeah. [laughter]. >> And we lost Hawker, I guess. Yeah, I saw. that happen. >> Dropped off. All right, let's go to a. break and then on the other side we're. going to go through all the story lines. that we haven't covered. >> and then we're going to launch into the. greatest Tuesday evening of all time.

>> Hell yeah. >> Mhm. >> Cuz tonight we get to watch. >> Southeastern Missouri versus Iowa. college basketball. It's a big game. >> Michigan State vers. right before the playoff bracket thing. comes out. >> Yeah, Duke, Kansas after that. >> Got a hell of a new TV show on Apple TV. I'm going to need you to check out. >> [laughter]. >> Let's Let's forget about all this [ __ ]. >> We got LeBron coming back tonight, man. >> LeBron's playing against Utah. >> Yeah. >> Bobcats play on Maction tonight, too. >> Oh, that's the football team. >> There it is.

>> That's what we're watching. Lights, camera, maction. That's what we're probably. going to watch tonight. Braun Bronswick. >> Braun Luca AR-15. >> What's been going on? It's been sci. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. But he's back. >> He said as long as maybe weren't all the. way back to where they needed to be. And. JJ and the boys said, "Take your time. Take your time. We're going to build. this entire thing up. Are they going to. have to change their style of play with. LeBron coming back? >> Absolutely. >> Aren't they playing really good? >> They're playing all right. >> Not championship basketball yet. >> Exactly. >> What is your expectation of LeBron if he.

was to come back this evening? >> Um. >> cuz he's questionable. He's still. questionable. He's not like It's. upgraded to questionable is how Sham's. worded it though, which interesting. >> If LeBron's on the court, I expect him. to be LeBron we've been seeing for the. last couple decades. >> How many minutes are we thinking? Oh, I. would say between 20 25. >> Okay. So, he's back back. And is he. defensive side as well or we kind of. giving it up maybe on D? So, we can have. a little bit more on the offense. >> He's an old he's he's an old guy. So, I. you know, >> we're not smacking the backboard.

>> Oh, needs a little help on defense. >> Yeah. Hey, we're going to put me out of. here in a week. >> Coming coming. >> Yeah. So, they got Aiden for. the back end. >> Oh, yeah. He's great. >> Trade him, man. He's had a couple great. moments. I've seen interviews post game. of him. They don't do those unless play. good, right? >> Yeah. Well, when you know when Luca. Donuch has the ball for. >> 40 minutes of the game, every everyone's. going to eat. >> So, what's going to happen when we're.

wrong? Is there enough basketballs on. the court? >> The time will tell. >> They're actually going to play with two. tonight. >> Two basketballs? >> Yeah. >> That's what we lead with. >> Yeah, [laughter] you're right. What I. was thinking. >> all the way. >> All right. So, that's tonight. [laughter]. >> Yeah. >> Okay. Two balls, one NBA GAME TONIGHT. >> YES. THANK YOU, SPORTS. That's amazing. >> Ryan Smith just innovating. >> That is. >> constantly. >> All right. Listen, I know you guys got. LeBron and Luke here. You're trying to. figure it out. We still would like him. to play. So, if we can somehow figure.

out Well, maybe if you get another. [ __ ] basketball deal, we'll agree to. it. Do you guys agree to it? Genius. >> Two balls. How about this? >> Four hoops. >> That's a great idea. >> Stacked on top of each other like MTV. back in the day. >> Yep. Mhm. Do you remember that? Oh yeah. >> What was that basketball game? >> This is our our age. AJ, you're back. You got dropped off. Your service was. lost. Do you remember what that NBA uh. the uh basketball MTV. >> pop a shot where there's two hoops? >> They had that like. >> they had like a hoop at like 20 ft.

>> Rocking jock. >> Yes. >> Oh yeah, >> that's what it was. >> Do you remember that? That was. >> That was sweet. That was good. >> They had a run that and one I think just. kind of took over. >> See you. >> Great run. >> I'm go watch Hot Sizzle. No holding. >> Wait, it's two. It's NBC tonight, right? >> I never know what [ __ ] nights I'm. supposed. >> So, are we getting MJ? >> Gonna sit down with MJ. >> Tariq. >> new one. >> Can't wait. >> What? >> That's been the the [ __ ] biggest miss. of all time so far. There a lot of weeks.

left. But boy, you you want to talk. about overpromising and underpromising? >> I think we just misunderstood. Remember, we've already talked about this. They. certainly did. >> cuz we we question how we as adult. humans with brains, okay, in the world. that we're in ever thought that Michael. [ __ ] Jordan was going to be sitting. at one of these desks for a pregame. halftime in postgame. Yeah, >> that was on us for those exp. >> Did they ever say that? I think we just. kind of jumped to the conclusion.

>> like special contributor. I think that's. they didn't really get in detail. >> I think we caught we thought because. Wayeno did it. We were like MJ will do. it because Weno does it like every. hockey game. >> Yeah. And we should have connected the. dots like when Wayne Gretzky was playing. in the NHL they were playing for 10onies. a game instead of actually getting paid. money. So [laughter] he he needs to be. there unfortunately. I will say really. cool part about. >> I don't think Weno needs to be anywhere. just as we go forward. >> Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. >> Like about the amount of skates and tape. sticks. >> None of them with his name on it. That's.

probably why he's still doing it. But. >> well he he he's smart. He licenses it. out. Yeah, true. And also, you know, he's father-in-law is Dustin Johnson. He. can hang out with him at any time. Austin Rivers actually has a sweet. little like sitdown segment type thing. Um, I believe he did it with Giannis and. granted his papa is the co head coach of. the Bucks, but he did one with Giannis. and it was like hearing Giannis talk. about like, hey, you don't see guys. doing what I'm doing out there uh like.

candidly about that. That seems to be. kind of the hidden gem of this whole. >> Austin is a talent. Mhm. >> We even known. >> Austin talks a little [ __ ] doesn't he? >> He's not stirs it up. >> Great story from KG and uh maybe Tony. Allen about Austin Rivers as a high. schooler talking [ __ ] mixing it up with. [music] like those like one great story. I can't ever tell a story like KG. So, if we ever find a clip, >> we will direct you to that story. >> Absolutely. Go find it, please.

>> Hell yeah. KG weapon, too. Yeah, >> he's awesome. He's amazing. >> His doc, the first hour, I mean, I think. it's two two total hours, but the first. hour, a lot of it is about him more so. being the kid from high school trying to. prove it to, you know, the NBA dudes and. it is unbelievable. >> Yeah, he's Yeah, there's some special. personalities that have come through. sports who are also goats. >> Yeah. Mhm. >> We thought we were going to learn about. Michael Jordan's. >> I'll watch tonight. I'll give it another. shot. I'll give it another opportunity.

Did you say what did you say this. morning when you woke up to. >> say good morning first? First first. right away right when I woke up. Boom. Good morning. >> to who? Just yourself. >> Say everybody. Say everybody. Hope you. have a great morning. And I put the. little sun smiling too. Just kind of you. know try to brighten the day. >> There's no sun outside here. >> There's not. But it was very dark when I. woke up. So I thought, hey, maybe the. sun will come out. >> It's very kind of you to say good. morning to people. >> Are you a good morning guy? >> The sun is always shining. >> Yes. Even in the rain. So yes,

>> especially if you got the right cocktail. in your hand. >> Yes. >> Amen. And on that note, let's take a. break. We'll be back on the other side. Be a friend. Tell a friend something. nice might change our life. Take five. >> Young people all across this country. If. you've served in the military, we want. you to know that when you get out of the. military, no matter how long you serve, there are veterans benefits that you've. earned. Make sure that you find out. about those. They can help you get. started with a new home. They can help. you get started in business. They can. send you to school or get vocational.

training. Look, this isn't about the old. stuffy VA that you heard about from your. from your relatives, your parents. This. is about a VA that's focused on one. thing and one thing only. That's our our. veteran. So, you know that you're out. there. We love you. We support you. This. secretary wants you to know these. benefits for you. Don't let them for. somebody else. They're there for you and. the service that you did. You raised. your right hand. Now, let us raise our. hand and serve you. Pat, y'all have a. great day down there. $4 million. in prizes and charity as a result of the.

field goal kicking contest. And Pat, what do we got going today? >> Yeah, Ree, I'm happy I can't see that. graphic from where I'm at. Just hearing. about that is obviously something to. make my wife and daughter not be. thrilled. $4 million out the door. because these college kids have been. showing up in such a big way. Congratulations to Garrett Morris here. You were the ticket winner. Uh you were. not going to be the one doing the. kicking. How come. >> I cannot kick? >> Okay. So, you're at kicking. >> I'm acid kicking. I climb rocks. I don't. kick. >> What's your major?

>> I'm an accountant. >> Okay. So, we're going to be counting. numbers later. >> Absolutely. >> Hopefully, it'll be some numbers off of. >> Jonah. >> Okay. UH. [cheering]. [laughter]. >> this is great. >> All right. Jonah. Hey. Uh so you were a kicker in high. school. Is that right? >> Yeah. I I kicked my senior year of high. school. I was the all region kicker, baby. Jordan. >> Oh, really? >> We got a couple blockers. >> OH, YEAH. I think we need a couple.

blockers. >> No, they do. No, no, no, no. Your senior. year, what were you? How many attempts. did you have? >> I only had about five attempts. Um, made. three of them. >> YOU WENT THREE FOR FIVE AND MADE ALL. REGION. >> GOOD JOB, BUDDY. >> All region. Uh, let's make this for. $750,000. $250,000. TO CHARITY. $1 million to the all region.

kicker Jonah. Three back, two over. >> He's got a shot here. Time out. [laughter]. Time out, dude. We got a timeout. Time. out, dude. >> You know what I'm saying? >> Need for ice a little. >> Yeah, right. We got blockers. >> Yeah. Yeah, let's go. We got some WE GOT. A MILLION DOLLAR KICK. J, WHY DON'T YOU. THINK ABOUT IT A little bit? Uh, >> here he goes. [cheering]. >> No good. >> JONAH, WE WILL STILL DONATE 250,000.

OH, he called a timeout before the kick. [cheering]. >> He called a timeout. [laughter]. >> 250,000 is going to go to charity. You. two will get an opportunity to win. $125,000 each. 250 in total for you if. you're able to make this kick. Jonah. sound good for $500,000 out the door. [screaming]. [cheering]. >> He curled that in. Oh, he Steve's waving.

it off. I think that was good. I think. that was good, dude. >> Can New York tell us if that was in or. not like the NFL? >> I think it was good. $500,000 after. Jonah, WHAT A STEP UP. CONGRATULATIONS, BROTHER. You know what? I think there's. only one thing left to do here. I've. experienced cafesito time. [cheering]. I've experienced the wonderful culture. I've experienced the beautiful people.

AND I THINK WE GOT SOME CANES OVER HERE. WE GOT SOME CANES OVER HERE. [laughter]. WE GOT SOME CANES OVER HERE. THIS DAY in Coral Gables IS GOING TO BE. ONE THAT I WILL REMEMBER FOR THE REST OF. MY LIFE. [cheering] RAY LEWIS STARTED. HIS DANCE RIGHT HERE AT MIAMI. ED REED. STARTED HIS LEGENDARY RUN HERE AT MIAMI.

THE LEGENDS OF FOOTBALL RUN DEEP. THE. MOMENTS ARE SPECIAL. THE NATIONAL. CHAMPIONSHIPS ARE IN ABUNDANCE. JUST. LAST YEAR, A LOVELY UNIVERSITY OF MIAMI. WOMAN DIVER FROM ITALY WON A NATIONAL. CHAMPIONSHIP. This thing's been staring. at me all damn day. >> You're out of your mind, brother. You're. crazy, [laughter]. Kirk. I'M A LITTLE WINDED.

>> THAT'S WHAT I WAS GOING TO SAY. You the. whole time you were running. I'm giving. you a chance to catch your breath, you. son. You're crazy. I hope somebody got a. lifesaver over there. My man's out of breath. [laughter]. >> It is a long way. >> To the top. You're going to jump in and. >> Are you going to jump in there? >> Oh my god. Yeah. So, >> I'm tired for you. >> Oh my. >> Oh, he's going to take the jacket off. Okay. Okay. >> Oh. Oh, he's taking the shirt off now. All right. All right. All right.

>> Looking ripped. Oh, he's taking the drawers off. >> Ladies and gents, the pants. >> Ladies and gentlemen, >> THE [laughter]. ladies and gentlemen, if you come to. this beautiful campus, you will notice. quickly THAT THE STUDENTS HERE LOVE THIS. UNIVERSITY. They love [cheering] this. atmosphere. And I'm with everybody. I think the U IS.

BACK. GIVE ME [cheering]. >> He's got the speed on. Oh my god. >> Give me the. [cheering and screaming]. [laughter]. baby. [cheering]. >> Here he goes. >> Oh god. >> Here he goes. Feet together. Feet. together.

torso for the [cheering] pencil. >> And he's got the youth. crashing it out. That could be with the refreshing point. Miami and Florida tonight. Let's have a. look AT THAT AGAIN. CHECK OUT THE FORM, HERBY. >> Let's see the target. We need to pretty. good together. Perfect. [laughter]. Perfection.

and all. >> Obviously, last year this segment became. a little bit of a riddle. $1.7 million. out the door for good causes and great. college kids. Have you ever kicked. before? >> Yes. >> What do you mean you've kicked? Hold on. I was told you have never kicked before. I feel like I've been bamboozled a. little bit here. You have kicked before? >> My brother's a kicker, so every once in. a while I go kick with him for fun. >> Okay. [cheering]. Okay, we'll make it $250,000.

for you, Logan, >> to start this season. Anything to say. here to Logan as he tries to win. $250,000. >> after that hand gesture. Breathe and. close your eyes. >> Okay. He doesn't want you to win. I do. So do these people. OH, WAIT. >> LET'S GO. [cheering]. >> Logan Kirk Herbstream will be holding. for you. >> Look, by the way, this is this is. >> tough terrain. >> Tough. This is real Ohio here. Glenn, if. you want to come over this way, we'll.

put a little extra pressure on him. You. got Pete running around. You got the. mascot staring you down. They don't want. you to win. Glenn doesn't want you to. win. Peter is taking a dump. >> in the middle of the field goal kicking. [cheering]. contest. Snip it in. That's Peter's. manure. Now through manure, great. thingies grow. Will Peter's poop grow. you? $250,000. You only have one kick. I DON'T CARE HOW. LOUD THEY CHANT for a re kick. You only.

have one kick, Logan. Good luck, sir. 33. yds. Kicking is easy. Everybody says, "Let's find out.". >> Ready, [cheering]. >> Glenn? What are your thoughts? >> I'm trying to give you. >> What are your thoughts? >> This is I think I think that poop was a. bad omen. >> Yeah. I mean, Pete just pooped right in. your face. >> I can't believe we don't have turf. Well, we're in Ohio. THIS IS A FOOTBALL. STATE. YOU GOT TO BE TOUGH. Logan from. Ohio, SOPHOMORE IN BUSINESS FINANCE. Does [cheering] he win $250,000?

[screaming]. >> [cheering]. >> Watch the poop. Watch the poop. >> THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT. [cheering]. JEEZ. HOLDEN. HOGAN. >> CONGRATULATIONS.

>> I'll tell you what. [cheering and applause] $250,000. Week one of the college football season. Thank you for showing up. I'm proud of. you. How do you feel, buddy? >> I feel amazing right now. That That was. amazing. I don't want to be the bearer. of bad news. You definitely stepped in. Peter's poop during your celebration, BUT WHO CARES? BUY YOURSELF some new. shoes from Glen Pal. >> Back to you, REESE. WHAT A START. [cheering]. >> What a start. >> Hey,

>> let's go. >> This show sticks and the fact that you. listen, we are very, very thankful for. >> McAfee on the line with a gorgeous. assist. the all-time leading tackler for. the Green Bay Packers. You can't. stop. Damn it. Be a friend. Tell a friend. something nice could change their life. >> Hello, beautiful people.

I can't wait for the news that we have. that just hit the internet out of the. New York Giants world. It's BA [music]. day. Hour three. This program begins. now. football. >> and uh that's AJ Hawk. The cadence was. from 47year football coach, Super Bowl. champion Bruce Arens. The toxic table is. here at Boston Connor and at Tai Schmid. and nine-year NFL vet Darius J. Butler. is here live FROM HAMMER DON [screaming]. DON IS AP Tone. And uh ladies and. gentlemen, we have a tweet.

Cam Statue is addressing his appearance. on Monday Night Raw last night where he, Andrew Schultz, and other members of the. New York Giants got into it a little bit. with the sleeves bags of the judgment. day. >> Now listen, it was during an interview. with Jackie Redmond where, you know, real tempers started to flare his dirty. dom, okay? Uh Ray Mysterio's boy who has. grown into quite a dirt of an. individual. this guy, you know, he'll. lie, cheat, steal his way through.

anything and he'll start stuff with. anybody and behind him Finn Balor. This. guy has never touched a carb. He's got. 2% body fat and he's an ass kicker on. Ireland. And Andrew Schultz obviously. gets disrespected and pushed and Cam. Scatteraboo said, "EXCUSE ME, DON." AND. JD MCDANA WHO WE THOUGHT MAYBE HAD THE. BIGGEST HEAD WITH CAM SCATABOO'S HEAD. KIND OF ON OPPOSITE SIDES HERE. THIS IS. SOMETHING OF COLOSSAL PROPORTIONS THAT. IS never really thought could come to. fruition. Scataboo's dome on one side, Mcdana's on the other side. Holy hell,

you're talking about granite and marble. [ __ ] Staring each other down. Scatteraboo on the mend. Okay. On the. mend, shoves his ass down, says, "Don't. you be disrespecting New York like. that." Gets pushed back. Obviously. maintains his balance as Abdul Carter. and the rest of New York Giants get. involved in this stupid judgment day. Gets their asses kicked out of the. arena. Now, John Cena will go on and. take on this slimy judgment day in his. last appearance in Madison Square. Garden, but there's a lot of people. going after Cam Scatteroo for doing that. that are New York Giants fans saying,

"Hey, >> enough of the [ __ ]. >> enough the physical call against WWE. fans.". >> Okay, we don't need that right now. All. right, we we don't need to see you doing. that right now. Okay, we can't see you. on football field doing that. We don't. need to be seeing you. Go Monday Night. Raw. Great show. If it's in your town, you should go check it out. But we don't. need you. We don't need that happening. He's saying, "Hey, honestly, if you. don't like that I'm having a good time. while dealing with a tough time, then. just go ahead and unfollow me and. casually move on. >> I'm not able to play football and have. the fun I've been having my whole life, so I'm doing things outside the box, trying to find stuff to keep me happy.

Enjoy the rest of y'all's week and just. don't talk about me. If you ain't got. nothing nice to say, hell yeah, SC, boy. >> All right, >> do your thing." Now, it I was taken back. when I saw him get pushed. I was like, >> "Yeah, certainly." I mean, coming from. someone who was just there at probably. those same seats to watch you do your. thing in Vegas, >> Tai comment, we were all there just. there. He He didn't know this was going. to happen. No, >> he was there enjoying the show in New. York and then sometimes just run through.

a little physicality. >> Yeah. And sometimes you got to stick up. for THE CITY. >> ALWAYS. >> ESPECIALLY for a city that has done so. much for him already. I mean, he was. becoming a hero in this town. Hopes to. go on to continue to become a hero in. this town. And if you're going to run. your mouth and disrespect us, how about. this? Eat fist, cuz if that's what. Scataboo is going to do till the end. That's why you love him. >> Yeah. >> Can't be the reason why you get mad at. him is what he's saying. >> And that's the thing too for Scataboo. Like in his business, you know, you get. hurt, you're supposed to just kind of go. back kind of relax. In this business, you're really you kind kind of have to.

stand up for yourself here. I mean, someone's talking [ __ ] to one of your. guys. So kind of kind of the combination. of businesses like Cam Cam Scataboo. >> and you got to stand on all of them. >> Exactly. You got to stand on your. business. So Scat's probably thinking. like in my business I kind of have to. defend my guy cuz that's my business. But in this business if I don't defend. myself then all of a sudden I got a guy. Jamie McDonald who thinks that he's got. a bigger head in his business than I. have in my business. And it's like hey. in these businesses both these heads.

have to come to a halt at some point. >> Yeah. And once again, >> at the end of the day, both sides say. they stood on. >> business. >> Yeah, that that's kind of uh that's kind. of the whole thing. That's that's all. that needs to be said. Let's get a Giant. super fan, Bruce Brown. Bruce Brown. Scataboo saying, "Hey, listen. Tough. time for me right now. Not able to play. ball. >> I'm trying to get better. I'm rehabbing. and then I'm trying to figure out how. not to just be miserable. Why don't we. get off my back a little bit?" Uh Giants. fans were attacking. Is that what you. were hearing and seeing? Yeah, Giants. fans, the kind of talking heads on the.

local sports talk radio were saying, "Hey, look, he's gonna reinjure his. ankle in this physicality." It's like, "Hey, all right, you [ __ ] Marks, calm. down. He's going to be okay. It's in a. boot." Um, but yeah, honestly, last. night I was like, "Hey, can we just. maybe focus on winning a [ __ ] ball. game?" Abdul Carter reports he slept. through a walkthrough. He's there right. next to Scataboo. Um, he's not injured. you know, I I think, you know, may maybe. he could he could focus up a little bit, but he did say he he wasn't he wasn't. sleeping. He was just uh in recovery. Um.

but yeah, last night my thoughts were, hey, maybe we're jumping the shark a. little bit here. We've been losing for. for almost a a complete decade now. Um. but this sweet one won me back over. He. is injured. He's going through a tough. time. And I do appreciate that he's just. out enjoying his life at the UFC event. He let out an awesome Ric Flair. Woo! midmatch um that I that I really. enjoyed. Um so yeah, I'm glad he's kind. of going through going through the. Twitch car wash enjoying his life. >> of New York.

>> Yeah, I guess you I guess you could say. this is kind of the the New York car. wash. Kind of the Jaylen Brunson slot at. MSG. Uh. >> Aaron Rogers whenever he became a Jet. >> Look for Scataboo to potentially go. check out Wicked. Is that available on. Broadway? >> See the Rockets here soon? >> Yeah, potentially Jersey. >> And maybe he's putting that boot. >> Maybe he's moving that boot. Now we're. talking. >> Get him on stage. >> Not a bad idea. >> Maybe that's the first time we see, you. know, like uh Tatum and Tyrese during. their recovery here. Now Tyrese has been. trying to keep his mind occupied.

Basically, anything that was happening. in Indianapolis, he was trying to go to. and just kind of stay because he's just. confined to his house if he's not doing. that. So he was trying to go to events. while doing rehab. And obviously. whenever you're very public, the people. are going to need to see progression in. your recovery. So every milestone marker. that he puts up there is a big deal. So. whenever he showcased himself dunking. just a couple weeks after Tatum was. dunking. Obviously that's letting the. fans know that you're getting healthier. It feels like the Giants fans didn't. view this fight with Dom and the last. night as like, hey, this is good in.

recovery. I'm at the point where I can. just go ahead and shove somebody here. It feels like it was viewed the opposite. way. It's like, hey, you are nowhere. near the point of your recovery where. you need to be uh mixing it up with. judgment day. And Scatteraboo, as long. as you're back playing football, man, none of this matters. And however you. got to get through it, you get through. it, brother. We're pulling for you cuz. you make football better whenever you're. running your [ __ ] ass through the. entire other team. Uh but like the way. Tyrese is doing it versus the way. Tatum's doing it vastly different and. it's like however you can get through. this cuz recovery is not fun. AJ, nobody. nobody really talks about that. Rehab is.

>> terrible. It's hard to it's hard to it's. hard to enjoy anything when you're. especially during when the season is. going on and you're hurt like I think. it's it's tough to let yourself enjoy. anything. So good for Scaboo. Honestly, >> you feel isolated at times. So I like. that his teammates were with him last. night. is still hanging out with the. boys, you know, cuz that can be a pretty. isolated type situation that you feel. like. So, I think that's actually good. for the culture, not bad for the. culture. But then also like in rehab, it's not it's painful the whole time. So, like you're going into a building. and it's painful. You're trying to. relearn how to do the most basic things. with your body that you've done for your.

entire life. And oh yeah, there's scar. tissue that's on there. So, they're. going to have to strip that away. actually so it's not painful for the. rest of your life. And to do that, they're just going to have a metal rod. that they're just going to rub up and. down your scars. And it's like that is. signing up for torture. Like you're. actually getting tortured while doing. that. And it's like, yeah, that's just a. part of the whole process. Oh yeah, also. got to do these wall sits where your leg. can't do it. And then it's potentially. going to go out and then they got these. bands you're going to do. And then. you're going to have to crunch your toes. up just to move like a piece of cloth. six inches and it's going to be the. hardest thing you've ever done. It's.

like the most tedious, miserable, isolating process of any athletes life. Oh yeah. >> And it's just always projected as, hey, he'll be back in three months. Nobody. thinks about the three months. They. always like, hey, we'll see you in three. months or whatever. It's like those. three months for said person, miserable. That's all sports, all recovery. >> Absolutely. However you can get through. it. And we talked about it yesterday. It's not like he's not showing up to. work. He's still showing up to work and. doing what he's doing on game day as. well. So, I like it. I don't have a. problem with it. >> Bill Carter did put out a story, too, >> saying he was getting I know Bruce kind.

of alluded to it. He was getting. treatment. >> during the walkth through. Now, that's. tough to do. And I talked to coach BA. about it, too. He said trainers have. been fired over [ __ ] like that. So, I. know it's kind of rare, but I guess it's. going to clear up the uh sleeping on the. job accusations. >> Yeah, that's fascinating. Uh cuz. normally everybody knows what the. schedule is. Like that's why whenever we. heard the story, we were kind of. confused cuz where would he have been. where somebody didn't see him and say, "Hey, >> there's always that like there's people. in the bathroom maybe late uh choose to.

go to the bathroom late and people like. got to go." Yeah. Like there is a lot of. that conversation. Treatment room, same. thing. Equipment room, I don't even know. if anybody's there cuz they're setting. up practice. So like it felt like. whenever I heard the story like he. missed it but he was in the building. It's like how I I don't even know how. you do that. And then he said he was. getting treatment. >> getting treatment especially if you're. like a I mean any point in the team but. if you're a rookie and you look around. and you don't see like somebody else in. your meeting room like if I don't see. another DB around like I'm just. surrounded by offensive guys or like. hold on Spidey senses go like [laughter].

committ where's where's Burns? Where. where's Kon like what's going on here? So very weird story right now. >> Yeah I just said it's a little too quiet. around here. Maybe they have a recovery. room where you like put on the leg. things and. >> Yeah, the Normatech boots and like in. the dark. Yeah, maybe it was in. >> What's that? >> Assault things. >> Yeah, like one of the like maybe. >> float tank. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Flow tank. >> If they have the flow tank in the. recovery room alongside the normex, that. would be pretty impressive. But if they. have like. >> there's there's a there's digital like. everywhere has digital screens in every.

single room at facilities with pretty. much the daily schedule. So if like a. trainer sitting there working on them, you would imagine like, hey, why is. there nobody else in here right now? Why. why do I not feel any traffic walking? Like usually there's a lot of activity. and then if there's nobody there, it's. because there's walk through a practice. >> I think he fell asleep with the normate. on. >> That's what I think happened. Recovery. room. I think there's a recovery room. Maybe a little darker lights. Maybe not. as highlights. Okay. Recovery room. Normate here. Got a foot thing. Couple. feet things.

>> over here. Let's see. Maybe a recliner. massage thing along this wall over here. Normatech options on the reclining uh. like the. >> AQ AQ red light things probably maybe. wearing on his head or something or. face. >> Yeah, maybe the Normatch's back in the. corner though. He goes into Normatch. He. he recines that bad boy and all of a. sudden hold the phone. I was watching so much wrestling last. night I got a little tired so I catch up. for Monday [laughter] Night Rock. and he just closes his eyes. accidentally. doesn't even mean to close.

his eyes. Accidentally closes his eyes. because he's thinking about I wonder if. the tribal chief is gonna return at. Monday Night Raw. The last one for John. Cena Madison as a square garden. And. then all of a sudden, guess what? We're. in La La Land and we wake up. Who wakes. us up? Oh, it was them coming back from. walkthrough. Holy [ __ ]. >> Oh no. >> Can you imagine how bad you'd freak out. if that's the case? >> Cuz there's probably people go to the. locker room. Somebody go find him. He's. hiding in the corner of the recovery. room on [laughter] the normal attack. Man, they couldn't even find him. Oh, TC.

There's a chance we we're not 100% sure. until we learn more on the story. But I. do appreciate him there willing to fight. for Scaboo. Yeah. >> And I appreciate Scataboo already. wanting to fight for Schultz. >> Exactly. >> That's good for the city. That's good. for everybody. That's that's good work, brother. >> That is good work. >> That's good work. And the Giants the. Giants fans, it feels like they got. worked a little bit. Now, uh speaking of. working, Mike Tomlin has been a head. coach for the Pittsburgh Steelers for. how long, Tone? believe this is 18.

years. >> His career as the head coach for the. Pittsburgh Steelers has just become an. adult. Can buy lottery tickets, can buy. [clears throat] nicotine things, can. serve in the United States military. Uh. 18 years, a long time in a place somehow. he still oneups himself whenever he gets. onto a microphone to speak about. different situations. He was asked about. spitgate, the soleing of a sport by. spitting happening in between the lines, in between the whistles. Jamar Chase and.

Jaylen Ramsay, obviously a situation. we're referring to. He was asked about. what his message was to the team. >> You know, >> I have no message. If someone spits in. your face, >> do what comes natural. >> Do what comes natural. I think Jaylen. Ramsay did what came natural to him. Hold the phone, started throwing. punches. It feels like everybody in. sports, Coach Ba, views spitting the. exact same way. It feels like every. person that we have talked to that's. been a part of sports says, "Hey, this.

is this is the most disrespectful thing. you can do. You can't do it. It's a. guaranteed fight." Like, if you want to. start a fight, here's how you do it. Why. do you think it still happens, though? Do you think there's always going to be. like outliers in situations that happen? Because this is what, third incident. we've had this season in football, and. it doesn't feel like there's been that. many in the past. >> No, that's kind of a new thing. It's. kind of crazy cuz you're begging to get. a fight. Maybe I won't get thrown out of. the game, but that to me is the. stupidest thing ever. And to quote James. Harrison, I'm going to find you. All.

right. >> Okay. >> I'm going to find you, brother. In the. offseason, [laughter] we're going to. we're going to settle this. >> I uh I like the thought of you saying, "Hey, he spits in your face now. I get. it. Okay. You can't get ejected, but in. the offseason, we got a [ __ ] FBI. [laughter] We will train this guy. We. will find out where he is at. You can. figure it out then." But it does feel. like everybody thinks it's a reasonable. response to punch somebody in the face. if they get spit in the face. Yeah. I. mean, there's not there's no cliche. answer that Tomlin's given there. I have. no message for getting spit in the face. You do what comes natural to you is.

Tomlin saying, "Hey, if you want to get. punched in the face, spit in somebody's. face." It feels like the sports. community has really rallied around. this. I think we all would like it to. not happen. I think. >> absolutely. You usually the message is, hey, don't be selfish. You know, take. the high road, walk away so you're. available for your team. But there are. also things that hey just cross the line. and dbo I saw the clip from uh the Debo. and Joe show I believe with him and Joe. Hayden and him talk about it. Yeah, I'mma find where he's at in the. offseason and it's going to be report. mask man just beats whoever's ass and.

you don't [laughter] know other details. come out. It was me and Zeke, we went. back cuz we wanted to see like some. other incidents and I believe it was. like 2006 with T0 and he's spitting like. D'Angelo Hall's face and then you saw. like Shannon Sharp, Dan Marino and I. believe like Boomer Syson all just talk. about it with maybe JB and just saying. all the same things that we're saying. now like so yeah everybody knows you. just that's just a line you don't cross. >> Taboo. Taboo. >> AJ,

will there always be somebody though? Mike Tomlin just said that there's a. playoff game. Okay, let's send our. special teamer. >> Yeah, >> number 49. Let's get him in there. >> Don't. >> absolute beast. This guy's willing to do. whatever. Need you to be an active. talker in the face of. >> this guy. >> Don't make it too obvious. Don't make it. too obvious, though, right? >> I mean, really, I guess you can bait a. fight immediately if you want to spit in. somebody's face. And that that's the sad. part of it all is like.

>> are they gonna have to review this? Are. they gonna have to review it and say. okay they're gonna say they threw Jaylen. out and then they go back they review it. and say no he did get spit on. We'll. just give him maybe we'll throw out the. guy that spit and we'll give a 15 y to. Jaylen. He stays in the game. >> Yeah. I think it can be what is it. called when both of them offsetting. >> Offsetting. Yeah. >> Yeah. Offsetting. And then obviously. injection for the spitting party. You. know that would have to have the NFL and. the NFL PA come together quickly. >> There's no way. There's no way. >> to readjust some rules. They're trying. to do that with their grading, the. report cards.

>> How do we feel about that? Have we. thought about the conversation we're. going to have tomorrow with JJ? Have you. heard about this, Bruce? >> Yeah, I have. And that whole report card. thing always blows my mind. >> Okay. So, I'm intrigued to hear your thoughts. Why. does it blow your mind? You think it's. inaccurate? Do you think it is something. that's a little bit uh not maybe a. perfect uh reference of what's actually. happening? Is that what you're saying? >> Well, to my knowledge, not every player. gets his voice heard. It's just a select. few. So, they're bitching about the. food. They're bitching about the locker. room. They [ __ ] about this. It's a bit.

session. [ __ ] session for for a few. guys. All right. Not not the entire. team. If they're going to do it, get. everybody's opinion. Write it down and. sign it. >> Put your name on it. Let's have a little. transparency. I I think that is what the. NFL is saying as well. what you just. said there is like I think there's an. agreement to maybe do some sort of. report card or judgment uh amongst the. NFL and the NFLPA but I think they're. saying that they're supposed to be a. part of it like hey and also who's. getting asked how many people are. getting asked and there has been stories.

you're saying who's getting asked a. select few maybe like five guys on one. team are being asked who are those five. guys 10 guys on another team who are the. 10 guys that are getting asked when are. they getting asked is it when they're on. their way out or they actually like. >> there's so many is what the NFL is. saying yeah boom boom boom boom boom and. the players are saying Well, the ass. facilities are getting called out for. the first [laughter] time. Yeah. In. forever. So there there has to be some. sort of balance of getting a proper. voice to be heard, but also getting some. change in the actual things that are.

needed in professional football. >> I do agree with uh all the players being. p not necessarily, you know, signing. your name next to hey f FF Darius Butler. cuz now they at the top they look at it. Oh, you don't like it here? All right, get the [ __ ] out. So, I agree with that. part, getting everybody to do it. But we. all know how tough it is to get how 60. 70 players to sit down for 10 extra. minutes and go over this whole survey. like we, you know, top 100. We barely. can get all the guys to vote on that.

So, that'll be tough. But, I do agree. You don't want it to just be five or six. guys on the team to go and do it. But, I, you know, we'll talk, we'll get. deeper into the conversation tomorrow. I. can't wait for it. But, uh, yeah, I. agree with you on that uh, standpoint. The reason why we enjoy the report card. so much cuz it's great fodder when they. come out. AJ, they're always dropping at. the perfect time when there's nothing to. talk about and then we just start. murdering these facilities. Oh my god. >> And we we're probably a big part of the. problem here. >> Definitely. >> I And by problem, we view it as a. solution. >> Yes.

>> You know, so that is kind of where. >> if I'm the trainers and strength. coaches, that too as well because they. they grade the the trainers and the. strength coaches. That's the one where I. if I was on the NFL side, I'd be like, "Hey, you got to make sure you talk to a. good chunk of people from like I don't. know, you need 30 40 guys because if you. just talked to five slappies, they might. not like the trainers and feel like they. didn't get respect enough and they. didn't get enough time with the coach or. whatever." So, yeah, you need a good. chunk of that team, I think, to actually. do this. >> Yeah. And I think they would cite like. different situations where maybe the. training room or equipment room got a.

bad score and then literally a month or. two later star of player come or star of. team comes out and says hey I owe it all. to this particular group right here. It's like well the the report card. basically or the portrayal of what the. report card said was the complete. opposite. It's also being reported that. the NFL is saying hey this is violating. a non-disparagement agreement that we. have amongst each other as well. you. guys are basically just broadcasting all. the things that are ass in our our side. of this entire thing. You're not allowed. to do that. Okay. We're not allowed to.

disparage each other. You do we ever do. that to you? And then people start. pointing out, yeah, there's been. numerous times where people have said. things about players and stuff like. that. Yeah, but we're supposed to keep. it to a minimum. We shouldn't be given a. report card. So, I I think there is an. answer in this entire thing, but it is a. fascinating little development on the. development of each franchise. >> Yeah. And it does make sense because you. could see how like this is meant to. ultimately do more good and kind of. improve some things and like AJ. Menson's, you know, with the the. strength coach and and and all that kind. of stuff. But it really does just turn. into looking at different franchise and.

be like, gee, how much money are they. making? This cheap [ __ ] owner. This. guy won't spend a like that's kind of. what it just morphs into. >> We start showing pictures from the. buildings. Exactly. >> We start looking online. What are the. pictures in the building? Look at this. So this is the team meeting, special. teams meeting, and the cafeteria. >> This place is a [ __ ] hole. >> What a [ __ ] bag of an operation. Is that the exit sign? It only says EX. and P are lit up. The eye [laughter]. isn't even lit up. It's like a [ __ ]. motel. That is what it turns in for us. >> Yes. >> Yeah,

>> we're a part of. >> So you can see why I don't love that. >> But we also find out new information. Like. >> it maybe I was the only one, but. >> who knew there was a three-story. townhouse that the KC owner sits in at. the at the stadium. I had no idea. Which. again, all the power to him. It's his. stadium. He's the owner of the damn. team. But you can see where if there are. five or six guys getting interviewed, they can be like, "Well, I mean, [ __ ] I. can't even get I can't even get two. tickets to a game for less than 5,000. bucks cuz they are at, you know, ticket. prices, whatever the fuck." But like,

you can see how if they don't bring it. up, like how is anything going to change. for the players? >> Yeah. Need some sort of public. something. I think JJ's got the answers. >> Yeah, got some good ones. >> JJ's got the answers tomorrow. He's very. passionate about it. Um, okay. Anything. we missed today? Anything we missed. today? >> Pirates are going to spend money. >> Oh, yeah. >> And. >> Oh, yeah. They thought about spending. money. >> No, we. >> Hold on, hold on, hold on. Can I set the. table for you? >> Yes. Go ahead. >> I am I'm so thankful you brought this. up. You're so right.

>> I get a text. from Jet Passen. >> at 10:10 p.m. last night. >> Late night for him. >> I I think he's an all nighter. >> Oh, Raw. What am I talking about? Yeah, you're 100% right. There's no. last mess he's worked on. >> And also, I think he's a late nighter. >> This is like one of the busiest times of. the year for him, too. >> Yesterday, 10:10 p.m. Patrick, period. The Pirates are doing exciting things. I. responded, "Selling the team.".

[laughter]. He goes, "Exciting baseball things. I. don't know what all I'm allowed to say, so why don't you go ahead and tell me. what has been reported about the. Pittsburgh Pirates?" No, just let it. fly. [laughter]. >> They have the number one prospect in. baseball. >> Correct. >> He's 19. >> Yep. >> An actual dude. Yes. >> Is what Jed Pass says. And I think he's. going to be. >> I'm not going to say this. >> No, you can. They're going to give him. the opportunity to be the opening day. shortstop next year. If that's what Pass. said. >> Yes. He said uh he thinks he's going to.

be their shortstop opening day. Last. time a teenager debuted was Juan. Stoodto. Juan Sto got paid $750 million. >> Yeah, he's pretty good. >> by the New York Mets. They're going to. spend money to they're talking to. Schwarber. >> Yes. Correct. So, uh, >> so what? So, so hold the [ __ ] phone. >> Yeah. So, we kind of ripped on them when. Bruce brought up the thing about how, you know, it said like, hey, they are. going to spend money in this off. seasonason. We said, you know, their. last big free agent acquisition was. they, you know, gave John Jo a 2-year, $6 million contract a couple years ago. Uh Josh Naylor, the wobble body first.

baseman for the Seattle Mariners, who. got traded from the Diamondbacks at the. deadline this year, who hits bombs. they. they made an offer for him like 70 plus. million dollars. He ended up resigning. uh with the Mariners. But yeah, so there. they go. They they were they were going. to spend. >> upwards of him primed. >> But so they miss out on him. But yeah, now the big thing is like they are they. are they're interested in Schwarber. >> But hold on. >> Yeah, you you can see the writing on.

this wall. Schwarber is going to get. $200 million. >> You can see the writing on this wall. >> They're going to have to spend a lot of. money. The big issue now is that these. guys don't want to [ __ ] go play in. Pittsburgh. That's kind of the. >> No, this is. >> you got triple. You got triple what they. would get some somewhere else. >> Triple PNC Park Sai Young award winner. The Hundo boys on the mind. >> for sure. But. >> Jason Kendall's walked that land. >> No, I know. I know. Torber though. Yeah. I I don't I don't know exactly what he's. going to command on the market, but yes, it'll probably will be around like 200.

million somewhere in that range. Pirates. might have to give him 250 275. >> And you're saying we almost spent 78. million on one [clears throat] guy. almost. >> But but in years past they wouldn't they. wouldn't have even like that wouldn't. have even. >> they wouldn't even send a text saying. that they did. >> Correct. They they tried to get him and. he obviously was like uh no we just. played in [clears throat] the ALCS. I. don't want to go [ __ ] play in. Pittsburgh. I'm going to resign in. Seattle. But they're trying. >> Yeah. Stepping stones. Like if you think. about it like this,

>> two years from now, they might actually. offer [clears throat] a guy $80 million. They won't just think about it. >> They just got beat to the punch there. There's nothing they could do because. the the Mariners had, you know, right of. first refusal to. >> Oh, so we didn't get it in front of this. guy. >> No, I don't think so. They're planning. though. >> Heard. they've been planning for 40 years. >> Yeah, exactly. BA knows. He was with the. Steelers. He's been in that city before. He understands completely how everybody. feels. I do appreciate a good post. saying, "Hey, we almost thought about. thinking about doing it for sure." I'd. be I'd be encouraged by this if if. you're a Pirates fan. I'd be very.

encouraged by this. >> All right. Yeah, you have. >> Now they have to do it though. Now they. have to spend some money though because. they got your hopes up. >> No, we tried. >> You want us to spend it on insert name. of somebody that isn't Schwarber? Yeah, right. >> Well, that's what like if it's Schwarber. like Schwber's not going to sign with. the Pirates. That's not That's not going. to happen. But that tells me. >> money talks, BROTHER. MONEY TALKS. WE. DON'T GOT IT. >> We won't spend it. [laughter] But that. tells me that there's a chance that if. they don't get him, they might panic and. go give Pete Alonzo like a massive like.

>> Yeah, they just they need bats. They. need And you know, you don't necessarily. need to spend $250 million on one guy, but they need to solidify a couple. different positions. I think they're. going to try to cuz I think they realize. like, hey, if we have another season. like we did last year, like Ski is gone. like we're going to like he's he we. cannot waste. >> I I know it's hard to just fathom this. as a sports fan of another team. especially as a Yankees fan and I'm not. even consider a Pirates fan you guys say. like they're scared Paul Ske will be. gone they don't care that Paul SK will.

be gone that's my mentality wor but they. could luck into they could luck into. like making the playoffs last year like. that's how good their pitching staff. could be they just can't you can't score. one or zero runs In 112 of your 162. games, you got to score a couple runs. So, >> but but the the owners just see, oh, Paul SK, that's a bump in bobbleheads. That's a bump in tickets. That's a bump. in nachos. So, for about two more years. here, we got a bump in this guy. That's. all they see. They they don't like you.

were thinking about it as if you were an. owner of a team and you cared about its. success. That is how you were. >> That is true. So whenever we read. something and I'll go to hammer time. with a little bit more information on. how he read this as a Pirates fan. When. I read that they were primed to spend. upwards of $78 million, I go, "That's. [ __ ] That sounds like that's not. real." That's them saying, "We thought. about it. We're primed to do it." Why am. I so negative, Tone? Is there is there. any chance that maybe this Pirates team.

is different this offseason than they've. been for our entire lives? This is the. greatest news Pirates fans got in the. last 10 years. Okay. That they were. primed to spend. They've never been. primed to spend anything. So, I'm. thinking they're going to get Tucker and. Bregman and Schwarber and Alon. So, I. think they're going to get everybody. World Series is coming home. >> Yeah. [laughter]. >> And they could say, "Yeah, we're. thinking about it." And that would be. this tweet, right? >> Yeah. Yeah. Nutting. >> Hey, if they're thinking about it, it's. a lot more than they normally do. >> Well, they're thinking about it enough. to send the press release that they're. thinking about it. I don't I don't think.

it's an actual I have no faith. >> I I trust Jet. If Jet says it's true, it's true. >> And if we had a 19-year-old starting, come see the young buck. The guy who's. just. >> Yeah. Two and a half. >> Bucko's young bucko. Actually, >> Young Bucko. There you go. That's not. AJ. >> What's that, >> AJ? Two and a half years. >> I feel like they do. The Pirates do they. want to be like a farm team for the rest. of the major league? >> That's what they have been. No, that's. the Red's job. >> Some stars. Schwarbo, bring him home. He's not He's not too far from.

Cincinnati. Middletown. You guys ain't. ever going to pay him enough money to go. there? >> Yeah. I don't think the owner since. he's, you know, writing big checks. >> Yeah. Didn't he say like, "Oh, what? You. want me to sell [ __ ] team?" I will if. you keep talking [ __ ] to me. >> Yeah. >> Opening day. >> Red pants. >> Yeah. [laughter]. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. What are you What are you not. coming to the games? Okay, I'll move the. team to Florida. Suck my dick. That's. [laughter] basically what he said on. opening day. >> with red pants. >> Yeah, >> that was kind of the messaging. He had. to walk that back, I think, a couple. different times. >> That wasn't serious. you know, I.

wouldn't move the team. >> Love the passion of the city and. everything like that. Pirates fans, Paul. SK, man, >> this is going to be a very active, we're. going to see a lot of a lot of movement. >> So, just to add a little more context to. the conversation, uh the the guy Naylor. did sign a 5-year, $92 million contract. So, a bit of a discrepancy in what the. Pirates were offering. >> Extra year, though. >> Okay, that's fair. >> 14 million. OH,

[laughter]. >> is that excitement? >> No. >> Taking a victory lap on that one. >> Ty just buried him. >> Oh. All right, Ty. We appreciate you, buddy. Why don't you come on out here? Why don't you come on out here? Let's. get the hell out of here. What a day. Good for us. And tonight, we got two. balls. >> Yeah. Four hoops. >> Four hoops. Pumped. >> to watch. >> Well, let's not let's not hang our hats. on that happening. Maybe. >> we embarrassed. No. >> Go ahead. >> No, I hope he there. I I just thought he. should maybe change like shirt have have.

Tariq and Jordan just change the shirt. Change your pants maybe. So it. [laughter] looks like you're in. different wearing different days. These. are different conversations to me. >> That's a good idea. >> Same setup, same seats, same angles, different days. Look at the shirts. >> Good to see you. >> Welcome to Insights. >> And they should do a full. >> Yeah. Every time. >> Yeah. Great to see you again. Been a. while [laughter]. >> and then right back into it. They should. do that. Tica looks. >> as I said last week, Mike. and he goes. he they have Michael referencing yeah. you know three weeks ago when we were. sitting here Mike and they look. [laughter] at each other.

>> you'll be able to see the wink subtly. with the jib cam that they have it would. be for ball [clears throat] knowers only. inside everybody that's there knows but. we don't. >> I think tonight he's at the desk. [laughter]. >> lead the show he's run the show. >> be your friend tell a friend something. nice about change your life we're on. this thing together hey shout out to you. ba you look so cool man we appreciate. you. >> thank you brother Better win next week. >> Hell yeah. Team on me, team on three. 1. 2 3. Goodbye.