The Pat McAfee Show Live | Tuesday May 20th 2025

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Thunderdome on this conference finals. Tuesday, May 20th, 2025. This program. starts. now for our wonderful and tonight the. conference finals begin for the NBA and. the NHL. In the NHL, we got the Oilers. and the Stars. The Oilers are last hope. for a Canadian franchise to win the. Stanley Cup for the first time in 2,000. years. Good luck to the Oilers alongside. Connor Mc Jesus and the boys.

Oh, never mind. That is tomorrow. Uh. tonight is Panthers and Hurricanes. Uh. we don't even get uh Mc Jesus this. evening. We uh we get to Stanley Cup. champion Panthers and the Hurricanes uh. tonight which is going to be amazing. cannot wait to see the Kiacs show up. 20,000 strong in Raleigh and the Florida. Panthers try to defend their Standing. Cup run after knocking out the Toronto. Maple Leafs in devastating fashion. Uh. annihilating all of Toronto and. basically every Canadian alongside of. that ass beating. I got a chance to see. uh the glorious Bob RDE last night at.

Monday Night Raw. He is a Maple Leafs. fan. He is a proud Canadian. And uh his. interaction with me was basically me. walking up to him doing one of these and. him going, I want to talk about I got to. work right now. I think that's how a lot. of Maple Leafs fans feel. This was. supposed to be the year. This was going. to be the run for the Maple Leafs. But. instead, the reigning defending. undisputed shout to Paul Heymon. Stanley. Cup champions, the Florida Panthers, who. add Marshy in the middle of the season, continue on an epic run of dynastic.

proportions. Nine-year NFL vet Darius J. Butler has been a Florida Panthers fan. since the very beginning. He loves the. hockey and right now he's in the middle. of a run with Lordo that can only be. described as spectacular. How do you. feel going into the Kaniacs, brother? They just knocked off a Capitals team. that I don't think any of us expected. the Capitals to potentially lose. Now, the Canes were favored in that. particular match, but I heavily favored. and they certainly did their thing, but. the Capitals with Ovuchetkin with the. run that they were on, maybe they're.

going to have a magical run. And the. Kane said, "Uh-uh, the Hurricanes may be. built, go and run this year. Are the. Florida Panthers going to be scrappy. enough?" And tonight, are they going to. get the dub? We asked Darius J. Butler. I think so. Of course. Uh and I know you. said you thought it was the oilish year. People believed in the Maple Leaf, but. no, it was these guys all along. I think. we were going to repeat, especially with. the trades that we made, uh the job that. GM Bill Zto has done. Another GM was. signed to an extension. That was a. knuckle pucker. Did Did you see that? I. didn't know that was a That was a little. snap knuckle pucker. Chad, that dep we.

traded for from Chicago. Obviously, Marshy coming over. Uh, so yeah, I would. be worried if anything, the rest verse. rust conversation you always have. because the Kane the Canes will be. fresher. Uh, but I'm not worried about. my guys at all. They're ready for this. moment. Uh, third year in a row we're in. the Eastern Conference Finals and we. kick off tonight. I'm excited about. Oiler Stars will be tomorrow obviously. as I was saying at the very beginning of. this and uh the NBA Timberwolves Thunder. tip off the conference finals obviously. for the Western Conference. This.

Oklahoma City team has been awesome all. year. Uh best in the entire NBA all year. long. They hadn't proven it though in. the playoffs. Were they going to be able. to take the next step and become a. championship pedigree team? is SGA who's. been spectacular, been phenomenal, been. great at hoops obviously for this, some. people say he's a free throw merchant, but nonetheless, he has been great for. this Oklahoma City team. Will they be. able to get the job done in the. playoffs? And then for the Minnesota. Timberwolves, Ant's the next one. He's. the face of the league. He's the next.

guy. Well, is he going to be able to go. on an actual playoff run when all eyes. are on the NBA? Yes. Both of them have. shown up. Now they're in the conference. finals. Who's going to stop that guy? Okay. Who's going to stop Anthony. Edwards? Good question. Yeah, they're. probably calling up the Dor chamber. Lou. Dorton, that's their guy to take it. down. Listen, maybe. Okay, baby. Who's. going to stop then Julius R. I mean, this team right here, the Minnesota. Timberwolves, I don't think a lot of. people are giving them n any respect to. go on a run, but then you watch them.

play and it's like that guy's will to. win uh and will to compete is one that. is spectacular. And I know SGA is the. exact same. came out of this OKC team's. good, but this is like a sneaky. incredible matchup here. And I think. what uh Ant is going to be able to draw. from this Oklahoma City team and the way. he's going to make them react and act, I. think, in this is an advantage. I think. the head game is always going to be the. mental game is always going to be in. Anthony Edwards's corner. And uh I'm. excited to watch this. Congrats to both. of them making it to the conference. finals. It's the future of the NBA being.

represented. Uh, obviously Ant, SGA, Jaylen Brunson, Tyresese Hallebert. Okay, these are four young stars that. are about to carry the NBA for the next, I don't know, 10, 15 years. All doing. battle and uh, I think the NBA's got it. right. Ratings are up. Ratings are high. for the NBA. Ratings are high for the. NHL. And also, news just came out. Ratings are higher than it's ever been. for the WNBA. Congrats, Caitlyn Clark. That's right. Nice. It's crazy how it's. always the fever. seems like. Or it's a.

game that the fever game is leading. into. Sure. It's crazy how that works. I. mean, you know, what are you going to. do? Proofs in the pudding. Get a girl. out of Iowa. Exactly. Who can pull up. from uh the state next door? Yeah. And. light up an entire arena. Every arena. And uh I think the reason why I feel. obligated to talk about a sport that I. don't know enough about. Okay. The WNBA. Sure. I don't know enough about it. I. was never able to play it. Okay. I know. it's a different style of basketball. I. know it is a different sport. I watch.

the Fever games. I don't get a chance to. watch many other games. What she has. done for the business in Indianapolis. Okay. I've gone to a couple Fever games. pre uh we'll say BCC. Okay. Okay. Okay. Before Caitlyn Clark, I went to a couple. Fever games. Was lucky to go. Had a. great team. Uh Fever have had a great. franchise, great team for a long one. like way 2012. Yeah. One like back in I. got here 2009. So like the Fever good. program, great fan base. Okay. We're. talking uh I don't know maybe 7,000.

10,000 people at those games you know in. middle of the week in gamebridge Arena. since she has arrived every game that. the fever play in that place is packed. that means local businesses are having a. lot lot of uptick what she has done for. the Indianapolis economy in a league. that I don't think has been known to be. such a needle mover economically wise to. the cities it's like worthy of respect. Now granted, all last year she had to. prove herself to I'll say the OGs of the. WNBA. It's not going to be the same as. it was in college. It's not going to be.

the same. Everybody gets talked about. this whenever they're a rookie, yada. yada yada. I think she has finally. earned the respect and credibility of. her peers, but the league knows. Every. team she plays against knows. They're. moving into bigger arena so that it can. sell more tickets. The WNBA is putting. her in prime time locations because they. understand what it is. And I think for. the WNBA, they need to continue to. capitalize off of her. And she's the. right one. She is the right one. Great. moxy, great personality, full dog. Full. dog. She's been in that gym all off.

seasonason. Yeah. Little clips will come. out from the fever of her just putting. up a 100 shots or whatever. It's all off. season all work for Caitlyn Clark. We're. lucky to have her here. WNBA is. certainly lucky that she's there. They. average either 2.5 million or 2.7. million. One of the two. The tweet said. 2.5. The graphic said 2.7. And then it. peaked at 3.1 million or something like. that which outdid Yeah. the uh Sunday. Night Baseball which was Mets Yankees. and that was the best Sunday Night. Baseball viewership they've gotten in. like seven years. I think that was like. 2.4 million. Okay. So I I remember in.

the offseason uh Angel Reese's podcast. they were talking about like hey we we. might hold out or something like that. CBA. Yeah. Yeah. With the new CBA. coming. Now obviously we are. um an athleteled show that are coming. from an athletes side sticking up for. athletes more often than not. Also. happen to be okay business person. I. think 101 15 years from now maybe 20. years from now they'll look back at the. business that this little doofus group. here has done and say oh those dudes.

were probably 10 to 15 years ahead of. everybody else. Respect business, love. business. Been doing business since. fifth grade when I was selling. cigarettes for 50 cents. Okay. So like I. I enjoy the act of. When you have a CBA, you're you're. trying to negotiate a fair amount of. money to employees from employer. Like. that is what the goal is. When league is. losing money and you come out and say we. need more, we need more. We need more. It's just a bad look. You turn people. off immediately. But there's an. opportunity now with this particular. season with how things are going, especially with Caitlyn getting as much.

And by the way, you can be jealous or. hate Caitlyn, whatever you want. You. should at least acknowledge that she has. a chance to take us to the promised land. now. Like if these numbers continue to. be what they are, if Caitlyn Clark and. the WNBA continue to outrate these other. sports, Disney, ESPN, TNT, you name it, these people are going to shut out. bigger deals for the TV deals. Adam. Silver obviously, uh, commissioner of. the NBA, also the commissioner, I. believe, of the WNBA, is a great. businessman. He's got what, $8 billion. or something for the NBA whenever their.

ratings were allegedly in decline. It's. like the WNBA has a chance to become a. very profitable league. And I think they. just need to acknowledge that it's the. CC train that is going to take them. there. And also the quality, the product. good product is very not I don't know. what it was like. Okay. I didn't follow. once again did go to some fever games. BCC enjoyed it and everything like that. But I think sport's getting better. The. eyes are getting larger. Younger kids, younger girls are watching because of. her. And it's like, why not the WNBA. taking a leap into becoming a profitable.

business for all parties, which is good. for the players. So, whenever you're. talking about holding out and everything. like that, I think you got to get to a. point where there's money to be made. And then once the money is made, it's. like now we got a profitable business. Now we're running this [ __ ] Now we. don't have to do the threeon-ree. Now we. don't have to worry about these other. things because we see these contracts. that they're signing that Caitlyn Clark. signed for the WNBA and we're all. offended by peanuts. We're all offended. by it cuz it's like two suites that are. being sold for one game to come watch. Caitlyn Clark is her entire salary. It's. like that's not fair to Caitlyn Clark at. all. But I think Caitlyn Clark sees the.

bigger picture, wants to leave WNBA. better than whenever she got there. And. obviously I think Angel Reese is a part. of this with how big her personality is. and how well she's known. But it's like. ride the just let's go. It's good for. sports the more eyes on all these. things. And I think obviously has a lot. of girl dads in here. It's great that. that is where it's headed. But it just. needs to be acknowledged by everybody. that there is a driver behind it. And it. happens to be a bucket from Iowa in. Caitlin Clark. Yeah. That's why I just. like the argument is stupid, you know, like you can you can say whatever you.

want, but it's very obvious. And I think. even the WNBA as like a whole like. they're uh their, you know, front office. front league office, I guess, if you. will. Like they might not publicly, you. know, they have publicly though. They. said, "Hey, all these games are prime. time." Yeah, exactly. WWA all the. Beavers games are prime time. They got. more prime time games than the Lakers. had. Yeah. Definitely more than the. Colts have. Definitely more than the. Pacers had. Legit. and she fills up a. stadium in an arena more than anybody. else. She's and I had somebody tweet me.

this the other day uh before we talked. about Caitlyn's debut. You better talk. about the biggest star in Indianapolis. this year or whatever. And it's like I'm. not good at talking about the W I don't. know enough about the WNBA to talk about. it. But I do know enough about business. I do know enough about a superstar. And. Caitlyn Clark is both of those things. And she has the work ethic to back it. up. Like this isn't just going to be a. flash in the pan. This is going to be. this is going to be for the foreseeable. future because of how hard she works. And here in Indianapolis, how getable it. is like get toable it is in Indie. She's.

drawing Ohio. She's drawing Kentucky. She's drawing Illinois, Michigan. You. got people traveling to Iowa. I mean. Iowa's even traveling over. You got. people traveling to come watch here in. Indiana. And then every other arena is. the same damn thing. She has home games. in every arena she goes to. And uh it's. a wonderful thing. It it is a great. thing for sports and it does feel like. more and more people are starting to. understand like WNBA definitely to your. point more prime time games. They get. it. Yeah. Some of the pundits might not. be there yet because I think they're OGs.

around the league don't just want to. just hand over a torch to a young buck. that's coming in. I understand that. completely. But it's like at some point. if you were to rally around this and. everybody was kind of like to promote. this. It's like then your league. potentially becomes and the numbers are. saying now the first weekend we're in a. good spot for the WNBA. Yeah. And. hopefully like all the other stuff. doesn't fall on deaf ears and like. everybody kind of acknowledges it too. I. think it will help like the college game. building stars there as well like a Juju. Watkins but even the discourse around. the WNBA like there were a few guys.

yesterday on the internet talking about. it and it just brings more light to the. game in general I feel like and also. hammers on the point like hey let's. focus on the basketball uh instead of. all the other you know BS that can come. with sports in general let alone just. the WNBA just every sport. So, this is a. sport coming into I know the league's. been around a long time, a lot of great. work by a lot of people to have that. league for a long time. I'm not saying. that isn't the case. It takes time to. get like boom, but now it's like you're. becoming Mhm. a league like a a big.

time comparison. Yeah. Yeah. And you. like there there's going to be some, you. know, that's a transition that everybody. is going to have to deal with. Whenever. you get more eyes on you, obviously. you're going to get more hate. So, we've. learned this. Bingo. we've the bigger. you get, the more people that like you, you assume. Okay, that is kind of how it. goes. But also, just natural human. interaction is there's going to be more. people that hate you as well. I said. this the other uh maybe last week and I. got the quote from Kirk Herb Street.

whenever I was going through some [ __ ]. uh in the college football world. He's. like, "Hey, the higher you climb the. mountain, the windier it's going to. get." You know, like that is kind of how. it goes. The more popular, the bigger. you get. There's going to be more eyes. More people are going to like you. More. people are going to hate you. And I. think the WNBA is currently experiencing. that. I think there's a lot of people. that are experiencing for the first time. an entire arena potentially hating them. That has happened in many uh massive. leagues in the past, but now the WNBA is. starting to experience that. So, I think. there is a little transition here. Everybody kind of has to get used to it. And then once they do that, it's like,

let's roll with this thing because. Caitlyn's going to play for a long time. Angel's hopefully going to be able to. play for a long time. There's young. superstars coming out of women's college. hoops that are going to be able to carry. some things. It's like they got a real. [ __ ] here. They got real opportunity. here, I think. And I hope they seize it. I legitimately hope they seize it. And. uh I'm happy that Indianapolis is in. dead center of it. Love hoops, love. hosting people, and Caitlin Clark has. brought a lot to our city. And to your. point, uh Tai, and to yours, Debbut, 41. of the 44 games are on national. television. Exactly. They're on ION.

network last year, and it was like the. third highest rated WNBA game uh that. they had all season. Most national TV. games for a single team in WNBA history. Most national TV games in franchise. history. It's like, well, obviously the. second one would lead to the third one. there, but I like that we're just. putting every single stat that we have. out there, but it's the real deal. They. are a draw, and whenever you have a. draw, you have to understand that it's a. draw and you have to take advantage of. that. And the WNBA is doing that. Shout. out to them for doing good business. It'll be good for everybody. And you. mentioned like the league being around.

for a while, and now it's, you know, approaching like a new stratosphere. And. I feel like this is almost like with the. Saudi leagues that are happening like. the Saudi soccer leagues and like live. like the era that those leagues are in. right now. They're kind of trying to get. to where the WNBA is now where like. everybody is bought in. The league is. very established and now everyone wants. to have eyes on it versus before where. like maybe it wasn't as popular. The. things that were going on with other. sports might have been, you know, even. better. And now that they have a Caitlyn. Clark and Angel Reese and, you know,

Paige. and they're superstars. They got a lot. of stars around. Yeah. And and that's. Caitlyn is the super. Yeah. And and. that's what that's what these other. leagues have been trying to look for. These new leagues that are forming like. they're trying to poach massive. superstars cuz they know that what comes. with superstars are ratings and eyes. And that is what is happening with. Caitlyn Clark. And it's happening with. other people in the league as well, but. never to the scale of Caitlyn Clark. Can. if like we can say the proofs in the.

pudding, but there's legitimate numbers. that you can compare to each other that. show you the scoreboard. Everything for. ratings is going down except for. football, right? Mhm. Pretty much. basically live television ratings. basically either stagnant or going down. Yeah. WNBA is having a like that's a. massive deal. Huge up like I assume in. their front office uh in the executive. zone which I think they share offices. with the NBA which is a little bit. different than Liv because they do have. a. brother relationship with the NBA. So. there is always like deals that are.

being kind of encompassing all of it. But watching them kind of do their thing. and have their thing and Caitlin being. at the middle of it and Indianapolis. being in the middle of it is a beautiful. thing for us. And it might be parade. season around here. Basketball might. become parade season. Don't look now. Everybody on Get Up the Knicks. Oh yeah. And if we've seen anything out of these. ESPN predictions, 0 for 22 in the second. round in the Eastern Conference. Yeah. What? Yeah. Yeah. Everyone picked the. Celtics and the Cavs. 0 for 22, brother. Yeah. Damn. Nobody wants 0% from the.

field. You know, now granted Nicks um. Knicks Celtics. Celtics are ranking. champs. We get it. Going to be tough. Cavs number one team in the East. Pacers. Who are they? Well, if you did a. little research, Pacers are the hottest. team in the NBA outside of OKC since. January. We've been banging that drum. literally since January, I think, strictly because I talked to Tyrese and. talked to the boys and I go, "Hey, am I. allowed to talk [ __ ] about you guys on. my show or am I going to look like an. asshole?" and they go, "We we got a good. team. We got a good we we are finding it. right now." Post all-star break. Tyrese.

didn't make the All-Star game. Won a. gold medal. Has been an All-Star. multiple times. Is the franchise player. for the Indiana Pacers. Pascal Seakum. made All-Star game. Tyrese did not. Bad. first half of the year. Post all-star. break. Tyrese found his [ __ ] Pacers. found their [ __ ] And they've been. running. And everybody gets hurt against. the Pacers. Yeah. Everybody gets hurt. Oh, they're playing against hurt teams. That's cuz they run their asses out of. the gym. They will run you out of the. gym. That is the style that they play. Everybody talks about how lucky they. get. It's like, what if the style that.

they play is actually a part of their. strategy in making you not be able to. keep up? They're in great shape. They're. seemingly more healthy than they were. last year. They're confident. They're. mature. They've been here before last. year with this entire thing. And them. taking on the Knicks, especially with. the history of the Pacers Knicks. rivalry. Beautiful thing for basketball. Whenever we talk about these sports. right now, we got Mc Jesus playing in. the NHL. Rematch there. He's the next. star with the stars. Boom. That's a. rematch. That's huge. The NHL loves that. Mc Jesus still around right now in the.

in the conference finals. You got the. reigning champs with an added heel Tim. Marshy to their team. That's great for. the NHL. The Kiacs 20,000 strong in that. arena. They don't get nearly enough. love. And then you go to basketball. It's like Anthony Edwards must watch. both on the court and off the court. SGA. and that Oklahoma City team is like a. college environment down there in. Oklahoma City. League MVP. Yeah. And. then Pacers, Knicks, like right now. sports are throwing. a 100 on the bank. Like it is Indy500's.

this week. Indy500's happening this. weekend. Going to be outrageous. Don't. forget about Monaco. F1 Monaco, of. course. So that's their worst race, right? That's F1's worst race. And you. guys happen to have it on the same day. as the best race in the world in the. Indy500. That's a tough look for F1. Yeah, it's easy to compare too, remember. cuz you know everyone's in the morning. so you can wash that poop. Wake up, wake. up, go back to sleep while washing. Holy. [ __ ] are these guys racing or driving. around town? Hey, oh, those are really. expensive cars following single file.

Holy [ __ ] And then you wake up in the. 8500s 235 mph, brother, partying in the. middle. 350,000 people sold out 109th. That might be 400,000 people there. Yeah, maybe more. Some guy tweeted today. that one in every 1100 people in the. United States will be in Indianapolis on. Sunday. Traffic's going to be great. getting in and out of there. Certainly. fun. Uh can't wait for all of us to do. that. Hell yeah. Yeah, we're going to go. to that. Every single one of them. We're. definitely going to be there. I mean,

I'll be in Monaco. State travels, dude. That would be the. cool one to go. State travels. Um and. the NFL is obviously happening all the. time. Football is obviously lingering. Not just because ex football guys battle. each other on social media. Okay, we got. enough enemies, boys. Yeah, we got. enough enemies. Okay, we can. disagree. We don't need to be disgusted. with each other. Okay, there's enough. people that hate us. Okay, in this. sports media world, exathletes, there's.

enough. With that being said, good luck. to all parties. I don't know how that. went. That one got real loud, real big. I came out on Monday and I all looked at. my phone. Holy [ __ ] everybody hates. each other all and uh we learned a lot. Hopefully we can shake their hunts. No. doubt. Yeah, it didn't sound like it. None of it. And then there was a third, you know, it became a triple threat. match on the internet. Huge. We're. pulling. We're pulling in a street. fight. Yeah, we're pulling for every. Hey, boys. Enough people hate us. Okay.

Enough people hate us, but also you got. to do what you got to do. Good luck. Good luck. Go get him. Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, is a man who is an. Emmy award-winning NFL pundit, insider, and analyst. He should maybe win an. award for the draft spectacular. His. performance in the draft cave alongside. one half of the hammer cowboys AP. He. won't. No. No. Should though. Should. though. Mhm. Ladies and gentlemen, Peter. Shreger. What's up, Shrags? What's up, man? Awesome opening segment.

Uh, I live in New York City, obviously, so there's a Knicks fan perspective here. on all you're saying. And like there I. say there's all nothing but respect. respect for this Pacers team. Like we. watched the first two rounds, you guys. wiping out those two teams and I just. can't wait for the series. I grew up in. the '9s when it was Reggie and Starks. and Anthony Mason and you guys had Dale. Davis and Antonio Davis. So like this is. a celebration of basketball. There's no. ill will right now and especially as. much as you want to make the. Hallebertton like Brunson thing. Like. they're both dogs and they both bring it.

every game. Like I cannot wait for this. series. Pat. Yeah, they have a great uh. rivalry cuz they know each other very. well. They're friends with each other. off, but on the court both, hey, there's. there can only be one of us here. And I. like that Tyrese has that mindset. And I. love that Jaylen Brunson has that. mindset. It's perfect timing. And it's. great for the NBA. You guys say uh you. have nothing but respect. Why'd you guys. treat our guy Hans like that? Why' you. treat a New York firefighter Hans like. that? Sh. Why'd you do that, Sh? You. were in that. I saw Shrekes was in Yeah, that was your trash bag, wasn't it?

Hans messed up. Uh, this is I I love how. Hans handled this. First of all, I. appreciate that Tyrese Hallebertton is. flying him out here to the game. Saw a. lot of people on the internet go Hans. just worked Tyrese Hallebertton into. some tickets. Did this on purpose. Did. this entire thing. I'm like Hans was an. industry plant. That's what they said. That's what people on the internet say. That was the only negative is like Hans. worked this entire thing. I'm like if. it's not like Hans wasn't a was an. accountant or a marketing guy. Of course. Hans is a firefighter. Like a volunteer. follow. Yes, of course. Hans is a.

firefighter. Of course, he's a hero. Yes, of course. The Indiana Pacer. representative in that entire thing is. the hero. And uh yeah, I'm excited for. this. And I think it's going to be. fantastic. I think Pacers in five. probably maybe six, you know, maybe six. if the boys You guys are so deep. You're. so deep. Like I watch that Cavs series. We run. I know. It's like 40 minutes of. hell. Nolan Richardson and like Carile. such a good coach. So, you know, you. don't know who's going to kill you. It's. Matarin one time. It's Nem Hart another.

time. Like you guys are solid. I just. feel like this is the Knicks year, man. Okay. So, put that get up put the put. the get up uh prediction uh up there. So, when you're up there, you guys have. a little pre-production meeting and uh. you got Marcus, you picking Knicks. Yeah. Okay. Bart, obviously you're. picking the Knicks. Yeah. Hey, Alan Han. Uh I know who you are. Are you picking. the Knicks? works for and yeah works for. and then you go well I'm I'm king of New. York I got to pick the Knicks and nobody.

goes this probably not good uh with how. things are going. Was there ever a. thought of that or are you worried about. this happening? Not one person is like. actually if TJ McConnell gets in the. right position at the right time and. like there was none of that. No, it was. Nicks Nicks Nicks Nicks and I'm like. guys that's a horrible graphic. We don't. want that out there. And then again all. right I'm not going to be the one who's. going to back off the Knicks. I've been. supporting the Knicks since I was a kid. I had a I had a Derek Harper jersey as a. kid. Like I'm not the one to not do it. So if one of those guys wanted to fine, but I work in the NFL and I know all too.

well when you see Chiefs, Chiefs, Chiefs, Chiefs, Chiefs, you're going to. get lambasted when it doesn't work out. Yeah, the Eagles are going to win by 30. in the Super Bowl. Um, all right, Shreggs, let's talk about the NFL league. meetings happening today, votes. happening tomorrow morning on a lot of. things. Feels like the flag football. thing is going to be a yes. I we Darius. Butler and I both had our kind of. skepticism about whether or not the. owners were going to let these multiple. hundred million dollar players uh play.

in an Olympics that could basically just. jeopardize an NFL season so they can win. a gold medal. From what we were told, and I assume you know more about this, Jerry Jones was in there saying, "We. need our best [ __ ] out there. If we're. going to showcase this game to the. globe, the Olympics is where we need our. [ __ ] gas. So, we're going to put our. boys into the Olympics. And allegedly, Roger Goodell's behind it as well for. the same exact reason, showcasing the. game. And I mentioned this yesterday, and I think it does need to be stated. again. The NHL at a time didn't allow.

their players to play in the Olympics. This is post lockout. They were trying. to come back. I, as a hockey fan growing. up in Hockey Tan, Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, thought it was the dumbest. decision of all time. TJ Yoshi, we all. remember him in the shootout whenever he. was going after it. We all remember. watching, obviously heard Brooks, you go. all the way back then. And even though. that was juniors, that was not. professional players. A lot of people. that aren't hockey fans are watching the. Olympics, so they should see the best. players on earth, so maybe they fall in. love with the sport of hockey. I thought.

that was a short-sighted decision by the. NHL owners. They have since changed. that. Thought the NFL was already big. enough they weren't going to do that. What is your lean? What is your. thoughts? We're hearing one player per. team can participate. How do you feel. this goes? And uh America wins by what? 3,000 every day. Correct. That's the. thing. I I I've had a really wild 24. hours on this one because I came on Get. Up yesterday and I was like, I don't. want to see Tyreek Hill get hurt against. Latvia. Like I'm not I'm not looking to. like I don't I don't need Z Flowers to. get injured against Turks and Caos and. then we don't have them all season in.

the NFL. And I got push back from people. both on the league side and on the. players side. The union and the league. both want this and I think the owners do. as well. You have to understand the NFL. as far as league initiatives, two major. ones are international and flag. football. This marries the two. It is a. bonanza of what this could be as far as. expansion and growth goes. And if you go. back to the dream team in '92, they got. to Barcelona and yes, they won and they. ran over everyone and it was a wonderful. celebration and that was that. But the.

next generation of players, not only in. youth, but also in college and NBA, there was a whole generation that looked. to that 92 dream team and what the games. brought as far as a global expansion. That's what they're hoping this could be. in 2028 in LA. I think it passes. I. think it passes today. I think it is. that much of a slam dunk. And I have had. so many people come back to me after my. comments yesterday being like, "Don't be. flipping about this. This matters." And. they're hoping that this can really. expand flag football and bring a next.

generation internationally of football. fans say, "Hey, I could compete in the. Olympics someday. I might not be able to. do it in tackle, but I can do it both. men and women's." As far as the teams. go, it is one player per NFL team per. country. But if you're the. Eagles, you might have Jaylen Herz as. quarterback of USA. You might have. Jordan Myada on the team representing. Australia as quarterback. and you have. you who knows what position they could. play something. The hope is eventually.

it's not just going to be American. players in the NFL and that this could. help lead to a great expansion of. international players who grew up saying. I remember watching LA 2028 and my. country you know we competed against the. US and I've always thought I can get. there in myself through flag football. Yeah. And also we got to talk about. themies that have already started in. other countries and you know football. American footballmies I think in. Germany. I think there's one in Denmark. I think there's some in Spain. I think. there's a lot of these countries have.

thesemies and flag football is obviously. what they're teaching you know the. basics for at the at the lower level. And to your point about maybe I can't. you know fly around hit somebody maybe I. can't afford pads. Maybe we don't have a. uh production of pads where I come from. this sport is potentially something that. I can compete in. I'm happy to hear that. the NFL owners and the players are. thinking from a broader sense in this. entire thing. This is good for the sport. as we continue to try to grow it. You. nailed it. You can drop a basketball on.

any pavement in the world and you can. get kids playing threeon-ree. You can. drop a soccer ball or a football in any. soccer pitch in the world and you can. get that. You can't do that with. American football, tackle football the. way it is. You need the pads. You need. the cleats. need the goalpost, but you. can do flag anywhere and you can drop a. flag football and you can play with men, you can play with women, you can play. all ages. And I think the NFL has been. really pushing this and they've been. pushing hard to get uh this being a high. school sport on the women's side, especially varsity flag football. I was.

in a commercial pushing that thing. I. legit that was like a big narrative and. I'm like I love this thought mostly from. a selfish reason. Like my daughter, I. think she's going to from the way she's. running right now, she's got some good. wiggle. Here we go. I I think our flags. are going to be tough. And then you. think about if it becomes a state uh. sport in every single state, a. sanctioned sport in every single state, then you start thinking about college. opportunity. Then like, you know, like I. like this. I love this. I hope it. happens. Like I played I played flag on.

like a college fraternity team and we. got run around by like guys who were. half our size who just had to play. It's. a different sport. Like it's a totally. different sport. And I think there's. also this incredible deal where there's. like a US men's team and the guy's name. is like Hooset and they're like no no no. no no no the NFL shouldn't get like. we're the guys who are the best. So it's. going to be interesting to see like who. represents and hooch I love you but if. Kyler Murray wants to play on the. Olympic team I don't think Hooch has a. long shelf life. I I do honestly feel. well he said that he was better than. Patrick Mahomes in flag football because.

he knows the rules. Here's his quote. you're you're talking about. At the end. of the day, I feel like I'm better than. Patrick Mahomes because of my IQ of the. game. I know he's right now the best in. the league. I know he's more accurate. I. know he has all these intangibles, but. when it comes to flag football, I feel. like I know more than him. And I can. respect that cuz it is a different. sport. It is. And also the moves are. different, but just feels like something. Patrick probably could learn. Sure. Yeah. I I think you give him a week or. two, I think he could probably learn the. ins and outs of what's probably Lamar.

Jackson. Yep. as a flag football quarterback or any. position is crazy to think. Tyreek Hill, Kyler, Kyler M. Yeah. I mean, you just. start listing off these names and it's. like, who's going to who's going to And. the move is that dip. The the move is. the dip. It's not really Obviously, this. is a big one, but the dip move is the. one that we saw out of the men's NFL. flag football tournament that they had. for like a million bucks happening here. in Indianapolis. I think we went and.

watched it live. I think they could. figure out the dip move, too. Like, I I. just, for some reason, I just think the. NFL guys could probably figure it out. Hopefully, we get a chance to watch. I. don't think we're gonna have to employ. the dip move a whole lot. I think we're. going to be able to tell our guys on the. outside, hey, just [ __ ] burn that guy. and Momes or what what is it like seven. Mississippi, five Mississippi? Something. like that. No, I think that's standard. flag. I think it is pretty quick off the. bat because we were watching it. yesterday. the Titans were playing the.

Steelers uh on the field on ESPN 2, not. the actual teams, but in like kids. representing those areas in the country. and it's pretty snap to rushes. Well, that's what I'm saying. Lamar though, Tyler just doing one of these numbers. here. There might be a guy, no offense, if I say your country right now. I am. just saying I said Latafia. I've already. been banned from the country forever. So, you go ahead say whatever country. you want. Okay. So, there's going to be. a Chinese flag football player who might.

puke from chasing down just one play. from the margin. It might fall in his. face three times. There's a chance that. that takes place. That's good for the. sport. I can't wait to watch it. Congrats on us winning another gold. medal. We need them. We need them. I. don't like this. I don't like this. arrogance, Pat. I don't like that we're. You've never heard me talk about the. Olympics. Put the graphic up. We got to. work. We got to at least put the work. in. We can't just show up. What happens. with the USA? We do, but we play the. [ __ ] sport our whole life. We put the. work in. Yeah. Start. If America doesn't. win this, I the.

haz I'm moving out of the country to. where whatever country we lose to. Whatever. No, wait. We got to see what. that country is. Puerto Rico. Great place. Still part of America. I. don't know if that how that whole thing. works. It's uh weird. Yeah, it's a They. have an Olympic territory. It's. territory. But And I said because you. only need a driver's license to go. there. Sure. Yeah, I don't need a. passport. So, I don't really know what. the rules are. But I said, I love that. America has this relationship with. Puerto Rico. And everybody said, you.

American [ __ ] That's not how I'll. go. It's like, all right. I showed my. driver's license from Indiana, and they. said, I'm good. They're in the Olympics. Puerto Rico is boom. Okay, Puerto Rico. I need Puerto Rico. If anybody's win, it's either United States or America, which. if we don't win by 50 every game, I am. going to be disgusted. Be some tough. teams in there. Canada is not playing. We've been What do you mean? I mean, you. guys don't have a team, do you? We won. three straight of that other tournament, haven't we? That was against Debbone. Yeah. Signed. a I completely forgot about when Curtis.

Ror is their quarterback and he's. slinging it around out there. Kid. Canada. Canada. Three years. A long. time. Some of these countries could get. a lot better. Yeah. What happens when. Kid Canada drops back and Fred Warner. was rushing the passer? Then what? All. right. I just would like all the NFL. guys to know that Shregs is. disrespecting them. Yeah. Everybody in. here is kind of disrespecting. I'm the. only one who has faith. And Trent, have. you got faith? Yeah. Why? What are you. talking about? Yeah. The Canadian team.

will be loaded with NFL players. Oh, shut up. It's four Dons. How many Dons. is you all over the NFL, brother? The. skill positions are just going to. absolutely Canada to Mapler. That might. be That's what I'm saying. Might be a. pretty sleep on us. I didn't even think. about that. But who who's our DBs? All. of them. We got Patrick Certain. Yeah, he's one of them. Blocking down. And. who's on the other side? Probably. Christian Gonzalez. Stingley. Derek. Stingley. And Patrick. Okay. Good luck,

Mapleron. Okay. This guy, are you. allowed to jam in this thing? Oh, yeah. No clue. Trey probably knows the rules. Tra, are we allowed to jam in this. thing? There might be a country that. doesn't get off the line. me. I think. it's like it's quarterback, two wide. receivers, a running back, and then you. have one offensive lineman, which I. would think is Pen Su just drilling. everybody across the field and just. going up and down. I mean, that's what I. would think. Yeah, Shregs, I don't like. the way you talked about my arrogance. Uh, because that clearly means you have.

not watched us during any Olympics. I'm. expecting us. I'm expecting us to win. everything. A handball. Handball. We. should win that. We should win handball. Break dancing. Speedwalk. Yeah. What. Australia did the break dancing still. should be talking about. I think break. dance is going to make its way back. It's ray gun. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. You said. that on me. I'm I. didn't I didn't say any names there. Okay. I don't know if that matters, but. he he Let's move along. I don't know.

what that is. We're getting a gold. medal. Two gold medals. Especially our. women. I watched those high school girls. all uh Pro Bowl weekend. Yeah, Brazil's. got some dogs. Mexico as well. We got. Diana Flores. She put a She's the She's. the best. And she's Mexico, right? I. mean, I'm telling you, too. I think. Yeah. Yeah, you did. Mexico has some. dogs. I believe Mexico won the U16 or U8. World Championships last year. Yeah, but. we're talking about the adults here.

We're talking We're talking about this. ain't a kids game. You know, that's a. word we're talking about. Anyway, so. that's two gold medals that I know. America's going to get. Yep. And I like. that. Only one one team worried about. Who? Uh for men. Proper name. Asian. Pacific. Oh, okay. Team what's that? We got to poke the. Hawaii. What are you talking about? Part. of the United States. That may be the. same as Puerto Rico has a team, right?

Well, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But no, the. Hawaii state. Hawai's a state territory. Hawai state. That's territory. Hawaii. state. Okay. Sorry. It's all right. You. should go to Hawaii. You ever been? No. Too far. They might be able to represent. some of them. No. What are we talking. about? Are in [ __ ] America. What What. are we even What are we even talking. about? Team would be sweet. Way out. Way out. Dude, Luka was born in. Vegas. Way out. Okay, dude. I've been. Hawaii. I've been to Hawaii. Very lucky. to go to Hawaii. always dreamt of going. to Hawaii as a kid. Especially because I.

watched Pro Bowl back when the Pro Bowl. was great. Sure. Okay. Everybody watch. that. This place seems like a dreamland. Wife and I go out there. You get on your. maps and you just do a little couple of. these. Zoom out. Boy, you're [ __ ] way. out there in a tiny little It gets a. little nerve-wracking. You got to zoom. back in real quick and be like, "Where's. the land?" That is the perfect place. Hawaii is the perfect place. All the. islands have their own. It's amazing. But they're part of us, brother. Okay. Jesus. Da. Did you not know Hawaii was a. state? What happened? Yeah, I knew that.

Come on, man. They're from a military. family. Two of I just because I am uh. majority Italian. I don't I don't think. I could play for the Olympics for Italy. You could if you got citizenship. Yeah, especially because you haven't played. for an Olympic team yet, right? Is that. part of the thing? If you've already. been on, you guys are being very very um. Didn't Cat play for Puerto Rico? Yeah. And plus Tony, if Tony showers in. spaghetti, they just give him Let's move. along. I don't know if that's how the. Italians work. I don't know. Shrekes. might know a little bit more about that. Anyways, we're winning a gold medal in.

both flag football things. And Shrags, I. don't want to hear any negativity about. any sport. If it's speed walking, uh the. dancing stuff with the thing, all of. them we learn. Yes. Hey, I bleed. America, Pat. I'm with you, buddy. Let's. go. Exactly like that. That is what we're. talking about. Thank you, Shanks. Other. countries are good. Well, I just don't. live. So, are not as good as us. Yeah. Not all of them. Especially on flag. football. Yeah, exactly. Jerry Jones. said, "We want to win by 100, don't we? We want to [ __ ] hang three triple.

digits on these teams. We Who's covering. Jamar Chase? Who's covering Tyreek?". Bingo. Just I don't know if Tyreek's. going to make the team, though. I I am a. little bit worried about Who's covering. Jamir Gibbs? Bingo. Oh my god. No one. I. mean, there's Maybe the Lions have a. good year this year. Maybe. I think. we're going to win the Super Bowl. Well, you said he even wants Penn Su. Guess. what? One player per team. Jim Gibbs. ain't making a team. Um, who's coaching. that team? Us. Who is G? We're not. letting that USA football group do this, right? They embarrass the entire. country. I think it should be Dan.

Campbell with an American flag tank top. on the entire time. Yeah, I like that. Or Kit Rock. Yeah. And a cigarette. Well, Krock halftime every game. He. could just be Braves uh D coordinator. He's definitely American, but MCD Bravo. ain't a coordinator from Texas. Can I give Can I give a suggestion? Maybe. Why don't we bring out of. retirement Bruce Arens represents the US. and he's our coach. I would love that. Bruce like B8 tuna Bill Parcell's making.

an appearance wouldn't be bad. By the. way, I don't know if Bichc's going to. go. He loves America though. That would. be something that Bichc would be. He's. got bigger plans. Um by the way is. Congratulations by the way we heard. American He's from America. I'm not. saying it but allegedly. What' you say. to Debbut's point? Pen Su was born in. America Samoa. Oh, I think he's probably. be on that team. Dude, we should have. like the Secretary of State be the. freaking I don't know who that is, but I. do know that Dan Campbell and Kid Rock. are wearing American flag tank tops. And. there's a chance that is leading the.

boys. That's AI. That's AI. What? That's. AI. That's not real. I thought they were. preparing. Does he have MCDC got a nose. block on his nose? Grocco bad 500. Yeah, you got to read. You got to read. Yeah, sometimes the. hands are screwed up. Yeah, sometimes. you get to That's America, baby. We're. winning the gold. You don't think we're. winning the gold? Ball with the ball. The bang the dang diggy diggy diggy set. the boogie set up. Jump the boogie every. halftime. Boys are ready to go. Congrats. to us and sucks to be you. Other.

countries, flag football's ours forever. Now, let's get back to the league. meetings. Flag football's in. Yes. Okay. Uh Tone has a question for you about. your thoughts on one of the rules. potentially being changed. Yes, I heard. you make a uh good point this morning on. the Lions proposal of the you know. playoffs being seated just by record and. not by division winner. And you know. brought up the the point that not all. division record or sorry division. schedules are created equal. Let's say. like for the Steelers this year they. have to play the NFC North. The Patriots.

have to play the NFC South. Those two. divisions, those two schedules are not. created equal. So in that case, I. believe you brought up last year that. the NFC North had to play the AFC South. or the NFC South or whatever and all and. all three NFC South North teams, sorry, made the playoffs. So in that situation, you think that's why this won't get. passed? Yeah, I think I think there's. enough voices pointing to that saying. that all schedules are not created. equal. So the wins are are not going to. be weighted the same. And what I what I. said today on Get Up and I'll say again. here is NFC North, their NFC division.

opponent last year was the NFC South. They ran rug rug shot of they beat them. all and then they went to the playoffs. and the Lions, the Packers, and the. Vikings all lost in the first round when. they played other playoff teams. Of. course, the NFC South was not loaded. with playoff teams last year. They just. had one with Tampa Bay. And that's going. to be the case a lot of times. The other. argument is every year, this time of the. year, May, a fan or an owner can look to. their team and say, "We got a 14 chance. of hosting a playoff game." when the. Lions hosted that playoff game two years. ago and Mike Tico was on the call and.

the Rams came in and Eminem did the. opening. Like, that's an amazing moment. for a city. The Browns have not hosted a. playoff game since 1995. The Jets since. 2003. The Raiders have been to Oakland. and then now Vegas since 2003. Like to. take that away because well, the Jaguars. want an extra game or the Dolphins won. an extra game out of the division. I. just don't think there's enough juice. right now and there's enough passionate. people within the NFL. So, as much as. this was tabled and there's been. arguments made that the Vikings got. screwed last year, I just don't see it.

getting passed over the next two days. because of the way the schedule makers. have the schedule done with the two. different divisions. And also the fact. that the owners like the ability to. maybe say we hosted a playoff game every. single year they have a chance of doing. that. And also the fact that the playoff. ratings are through the roof. Why would. we why change? Yeah, exactly. So, that's. that was our original take. And then. there started to be a little well if. they're under 500 and they went did they. earn it? And it was like, oh, maybe. there is an argument to be made. And. with how loud it's gotten, it's like, well, maybe in the room where it happens. in the voting that they are actually.

considering this. This feels like one. they table for another year. This feels. like uh this feels like I would add that. week 17 and 18 last year, there were. some dogs on the schedule of two teams. that weren't relevant or one team that. maybe had a playoff spot already secured. and they didn't really care about the. seating. This would change that. This. would say, "Hey, you need to be. finishing in the top three for wins if. you want one of those home games." And. that would keep everyone competitive to. week 18. But I don't know if there's. enough energy in the room to make that. happen. In the room where it happened. I. want to be in the room where it happens.

Hamilton super cultured. Look at us. Look at us. No big deal. Yeah. I love. Broadway. Actually, I don't mind those. live shows. Lion King. Yeah. Yeah. Wife. and I forever in New York. We'll go. We. will go to as many as we possibly can. I. love the weird microphone things on the. foreheads, too, cuz they change costumes. and it's like kind of sticking down and. every once in a while you can see who's. the big sweater, who's not a sweater, cuz that thing's popping straight out. through their hair. Still picking up. their voices, though somehow perfectly. What was the last show you saw?

I think it was uh Jud was doing um. what's that Robin Williams. Dead Society was off Broadway. Jud was. doing Dead Po Society in a small little. theater. Jay said at one point was next. next to us in the stands in the stairs. while doing it. Got a chance to meet him. afterwards said, "Wow, they're. incredible." You absolutely. I just like. watching people do their [ __ ] Whatever. their [ __ ] is. It's the best in the. world. The best in the world are doing. it every night and they do it eight.

times a week. So they do the matinea. performance also. Like I'm always. amazed. I live in New York. We try to go. but the Tony's are June 2nd. Like Pat, I. want to go to the Tony's. Forget the. sports. emer. He does that, right? Uh he has. like several times in the past. I don't. know if he is this year, but yeah. Neil. Patrick. That's his name, right? Yeah. He's Doogie House, right? I don't know. what this guy is. One of his greatest. characters. What are you talking about? Yeah. It started with the the typing, right? That's That's how I Yeah, he's.

talent. That guy's a real talent in. there. I just like watching people do. their [ __ ] personally. That's just it. If they work their ass off, they have to. perform in front of people. Especially. whenever you're in there, it's like I. could see every slip up that you have. I. can see every voice crack that you have. And you talk about them doing it like. eight times a week or whatever. It's. like three shows a day sometimes back to. back to back. I think we talked to Coupe. Coupe did this. He did a run in London. in London and it was like eight shows a. week or something. Yeah. He just like. absolutely crushed it. It's like I don't. know how you're I just saw Glenn Garry.

Glenn Raw which is a famous one. And. this is the cast if you wanted to know. who you get. For who? Bilbur Bill. Kieran Kulkin, okay, from Succession. Uh, big. Then you had uh Roman Michael. McKon who you would know he's in like. Final T all sorts of things and then. promoting Kirk who is better called. Saul. The four of them just an. unbelievable show and I saw like my wife. and I was like, do you want to go see. it? Like you just see that on any given. random night. That's Broadway. It's.

amazing. Yeah. That's why everybody. hates the Knicks. That's why everybody. likes the Pacers. Okay. We don't have. Bill Burr staying up there with Kieran. and the boys every single night. Okay. That's not an opportunity. We got. Caitlyn Clark though, breaking records, you know, uh, down here. They're pretty. good. Very good. Very good. We got a lot. of Pacers in six. Applebees. Yeah, we. got Top Golf up here. Yeah, we do got. good Applebees, you know. I think that. any chain you want. Yeah. So, I love. Indianapolis. Great city. Great city. Great place. Come. Great city. If you.

haven't been, come. Come on down. It's. an awesome city. Easy to get to. Great. downtown, walkable. And I've I go to the. combine every year. I look forward to. it. It's great. Well, the combine is a. whole different animal, doc. Everybody's. here. That's like your I mean, that's. heading into draft season. I mean, that. is 500 Craig is getting Yeah. You need. to come to any 500 at least once in your. life. Uh I don't think you need to go a. bunch of times unless you fall in love. with it, but you need to at least do it. one time as you experience sold out this. weekend. It's easy to fall in love with.

it. Bing throwing that out just to. begin. I looked Go ahead. I looked at. flights cuz I got no plans. It's. Memorial Day. The Knicks are playing the. pace. I looked at flights. I was going. to take my son. Like you can't get a. hotel room or a flight to Indie this. weekend. It is between Indie 500 and the. Knicks. Like it is New York to Indie. No. chance. That's right. We don't want you. over here anyway. Yeah, exactly. We want. We need Hans. We want Hans. We want New. York firefighters coming here. We want. heroes coming here. That's right. Sh. It. would be nice to have you out here. though. Anytime you want to come, we'd. love We can find you a hotel room by the. way. I think I think we know a couple.

people probably find you. Stay with. Conor, too. Yeah. Stay house, which. which does suck. So, he's not going to. be here. Perfect. You could use my. apartment if you want, Pete. He's got a. penthouse, too. He's got a Conor's. living like a king of Indianapolis. Yeah. And Gumpy, too. Gumpy's got a five. TV setup in his living room. I don't. know if you guys dialed that up this. weekend. Phenomenal. I FaceTime with. Gumpy last night. He's like, "Look at. this setup I got, Paul." And he just. turns and it's just five TVs across the. wall. I'm like, "Holy [ __ ] Tell me. you're betting on too many sports. without telling me you're betting on too.

many sports." You can stay there. You. and the boy can watch literally. everything. All right. last rule change. that's potentially coming. This one's. confused me a bit, so maybe you'll be. able to explain it better. Go ahead, Ty. Yeah, Sh, can we just get some clarity. on the new onside kickoff rules? What. they can now declare at any time when. they're down, they're moving it up a. yard because only 6% of the onside kick. attempts uh were recovered. What's going. on with this? And how much should we. expect this to actually change?

We vacasillate as a league, and I say we. because it's it's the media in addition. because you want to make it safe for the. kickoffs, but you also don't want to. eliminate special teams. And obviously, it's close to this show's heart how. important special teams is. The onside. kick became a nearly impossible thing to. convert last year. So, this. modification, which is being presented, would make it potentially a little. easier to recover onside kicks for the. kicking team. And yet I think you're now. constricting the field in a way that. it's changing things again. I'm not sure.

it's going to pass if if that. modification is is going to be presented. in the room. It just feels weird. So you. see how the kicking team is one yard off. the line there. They're going to move. them up to the line. So you see they're. one yard off, one yard off, one yard. off. They're going to now be allowed to. move all the way up to the line where. the ball is being kicked from. I think. they should let back foot be online. So. you get a two extra yards there. So then. it's only a nine yard kind of run up. there. I I I hate it all, you know, for. the onside kick because I appreciate the.

fact that they wanted more returns. I. appreciated the hybrid dynamic kickoff. I appreciated all that, but the onside. kick uh was such a special play. Yeah. And the NFL will say, "We'll sacrifice. the onside kick so that we get maybe a. thousand more kickoff returns uh. throughout the rest of the year. We get. a little bit more explosion." Their. angle is that they're trying to save. special teams to try to save the. kickoff. Feels like the on-site kick. might be impossible to save. Feels like. this one might be uh might be over, but.

he can always get lucky and he can. always be in it. Yeah. And uh shout out. to Chuck Bagano kind of letting me do. surprise on sidekicks basically whenever. I wanted. So those were uh those were. good times. Those were fun times. I mean. those were I felt like I was really a. part of the game and I was like all. right, not only do I just come out here. huge momentum. Yeah, definitely. It was. a pick. There was a weapon, dude. Yeah, it was. It was I It was cool feeling too. knowing like. if I check this. Is that common? Like. would a coach would a coach give a green.

light to the kicker like that? Is that. common or is that just like a very Chuck. thing that like, hey, I trust you and. like you're my guy? I had to prove it in. practice. So, I knew like every practice. rep was like more important almost than. the one in the game. Chuck needed to see. with his eyes the ball go into. somebody's hands on our team. And then. he needed to see this. He needed to see. everything work. Needed to see it in. practice, which I think a lot of these. kickers, and I don't want to blame. kickers because kickers have a hard. enough job and nobody really gives them. respect. But I think kickers stopped. working on onside kicks as well. Soon as. the percentages get this low, it's like,

well, it's just a hit and hope anyways. Everybody puts the ball sideways. They. just kind of try to spin it and do it. Like I used to work on onside kicks. I. wanted that ball to be real hot. I. wanted that thing to be a jump ball. But. to work on that, I'm jamming my big toe. into the top of a football. And then I'm. also ripping my hip basically. So for. kickers just to sign up to do that with. less than 5% chance of it being. recovered, like I don't think guys were. working on onsite kicks. Everything just. became like a very fascinating very. blatant Dude, this is fascinating to me.

because you also have a budget of your. time. You're going to you're going to be. punting reps, you know, how much am I. going to be doing this? Yeah, you're. right. You got to budget your reps. You. got to budget your time. It also it. hurts. Like the the high hop thing. hurts. Like that's not a fun thing. You're jamming your toe into the top of. it. But if you can get that thing to. boy, that's scary. Yeah, cuz on the on. the hands team on the other side, they're standing like this and it's. like, okay, now there's at least a. second guess that you can get it. Haven't seen a good high hop in a long. time. Have not seen like a great high. hop out of anybody in a long time.

Janikowski back in Oakland when you're. playing on that baseball field, he used. to take the ball off the dirt and that. thing was just like uh it was unbel cuz. he's that lefty too and the way he. wouldn't even take steps. He just like. back up and do his thing. That [ __ ]. would go through the Crosby had a good. high hop. Um I think I had a good high. Crosby had What was the guy in Seattle. who had it in the NFC Championship game? Ryan. John Ryan. Was that him? It was Or. was it the kicker? Hoska. Uh yeah, might. have been Steve. Might have been. Houseka. Yeah, it might have been.

Houseka. Uh Canadian. Vinitary had a. great high hop. Uh he's Canadian. House Ryan Houseka. One of them was Ryan. might have been worst feeling in the. world as that hands guy. Did it in. college. Went up high. I had to jump. My. highest fully exposed. You know, somebody touch you, get flipped against. Pittsburgh Panthers actually in college. Flipped, landed right on my head, knocked out. Told myself never again. would I be that guy. Uh, Coach McMahon. MIJ asked me in the league. I think.

Reggie was hurt maybe uh maybe the year. he tricep or ACL and he asked me to be. the guy. I was like, coach, I'm be. honest with you. I'm I don't want to put. the team in this position. I will not. put myself out there for that. Couldn't. do it. So, and and to your point too, most kickers when that time comes, we. know as a return as a hands team, they. only have one kick in their bag that. that coach is going to trust me. You can. go through the tape, they probably only. kick three on side kicks in their so you. know it's going to be a high hop. It's. going to be a spinner. So, you had the. middle dribbler and all the different. options. So, that that's a headache for.

like a special teams unit to have to. prepare for. I didn't have the high hop. left. I I could never get it. Could. never get it. just kicking it right out. of bounds. He's like, "Yeah, I don't. think this one's in the bag, brother. I. don't think this is it." Okay, we need. one last question before we have to get. out of here. Debb has a question about a. very active off season seemingly for. John Lynch. Yeah, passing out a bunch of. money. Brock Pery got paid and now Fred. Warner got a huge deal making him the. highest paid linebacker in NFL history. Um, any other deals that we can expect. around the league and what went into. this deal and this a ton of guaranteed.

money he got? Well, I wouldn't say. what's coming next. I'll just tell you. this. The 49ers the last few offseasons. have been dealing with crap with. contracts going all the way up into the. start of training camp. And this was a. priority for them this off seasonason to. get this done before they got to. training camp. And it was Pertie, it was. KD, and it was Warner. They checked all. three boxes off. The Perty one came. about in a great way because this was. starting really in Santa Clara in a. conversation. Then at the combine in. Indianapolis at St. Elmo's John Lynch,

Parog Morati, and Brian Hampton met with. Kyle Strong and Pertie's agent, and that. got the ball rolling. The big difference. was they got a no trade clause in for. Pertie, which the Niners had never given. before. Perie got a great deal, and then. Fred Warner was the icing on the cake. We knew Fred Rico Warner wasn't going. anywhere. They get them all done, no. drama. They have their three cornerstone. pillar leaders in the locker room and. they can go and move forward into this. summer and try to forget last year, which was just a lost season in San. Francisco. I'll say this as a guy that. got a chance to maybe have a beer with.

George KD at Wrestlemania, he looks. unbelievable. Not that he not that he. never does, but he looks unbelievable. So jacked. Like so so jacked. Vibes so. high around his crew too all the time. He assume I think that was right before. that deal got announced, so he probably. knew what was around the corner. Congrats to all of them. They've earned. it. Congrats to the 49ers. This year is. seemingly a much more positive offseason. as opposed to a negative one. Maybe. they'll be back. Is Christian McCaffrey. going to play? What about big T? We hope. so. Yes, Trent Williams are still.

playing. That's a good question. What's. going on? All of these guys. This is. they're keeping an eye on all of it. They just wanted to get their guys in. and know that this will not be contract. talk. So hopefully all these guys will. be healthy playing and on the field come. fall. That's awesome. Shrekes, we can't. wait to watch you cover the Olympics as. the Americans dominate every sport. Okay. Don't ever forget it. I'm sorry. I. I just Yeah, I appreciate you. I love. having me on. And I will tell you this. I will never again doubt the Americans. when it comes to those five rings in the. Olympic Games on this show. On this.

show, everywhere else you can tell your. real feelings here. We need a little. We're going to do it. You're the man, ladies and gentlemen. Nixon six. Nixon. You can't even get a hotel in. Indiana. All right. All right. See you. See you. See you. Drake's the best. I'm. about done with all the text messages. from every human that's from New York. letting me know that the Pacers are. going to lose to them, though. Sure. Block them. That's what I did. Hour two. is going to be insane. Big announcement. coming around the corner. Whoa. He's saying don't go off the top. It's.

too shallow. All you're going to hear this stadium do. is they put the big paw up. They start. shaking it. They go, "Whoa. [Applause]. Yeah, he loves the defensive side of the. ball. He said yesterday to me that this. is a blue collar team. They win it on. special teams. They have five block.

kicks this season. The defensive side of. the ball, Lynch leads the Big 12 in. sacks. But also on the offensive side, Denzel Mims is an absolute animal. He is. a weapon. Charlie Brewer, the. quarterback from Wake Travis. His dad. was a quarterback in Texas. His grandpa. was a quarterback in Texas. And the. people here in Waco just so happen to. get a chance to see Charlie Brewer on a. daily basis. Hey, hey, hey. Wo.

Yeah. Boomer is going to mean a little. bit different than what it means on the. internet currently. And hopefully here. in Baylor, they hope they are not. hearing a lot of boomer. Everybody wants to be a punter, including quarterbacks. If I was a. quarterback, I'd want to be a punter as. well. Zero yards on that punt. embarrassing situation. The Dance that. gets on national television has led to a. lot of losses, but you got to respect. the hips. being am I going to make college game. day. Well, I want to make something. creative. I want to make something fun. Know what to hell with it. I don't like. Oh,

you so thick. Look how thick that thing. is. That's years and years of patience. Right now. Okay, let's do it. Good job. are out here on the Brazis River, but. you can take a boat to the game. One of. the only stadiums in the country that. you can do. That's beautiful out here. A. lot of people would say this is the last. time I'm going to be on game day. Last. time I allegedly did what I'm about to. do, I ended up in a jail cell. Let's go.

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Tuesday, May 20th, 2025 is now. Yeah, sports hour two starts right now. We're. lucky to have a great hour two ahead of. us cuz it's not just me, you know, obviously the talk tables here at Boston. Conor and at Tai Schmidt. Con man, I saw. the Patriots are favored in 11 of their. 17 games. Yeah, pretty sweet. I mean, how's that happen? I think we know how. that happens. His name's Mike Vrabel and. his name's Drake May. I I think we all. can understand what is coming for the. NFL this year. But yeah, wonderful day. I mean, I I had the greatest morning of. my life this morning. So, basically.

nothing can knock me down. And you you. adding the fact that the Patriots are. favored in 11 to 17 just that's that's. just a cherry on top. I heard you had a. lot of fun this morning. That's good. news. Uh what happened? Well, I had I. didn't have a lot of fun. A lot of fun. this morning would be a you know, a nice. plate of flapjacks, you know, with some. syrup. Maybe that that'd be a lot of. fun. What I had this morning was my. [ __ ] world rocked, brother. Okay. Okay. I'm sorry. I basically went to an. AC/DC concert. We could say that. Uh. they're on tour right now. They're on.

tour right now. I think Metallica played. at Virginia Tech, too. I. saw that place. Earthquake registered. earthquake. Yeah, that would have been. awesome to be there. I, you know, I'm. not like signing up for a Metallica. concert. I do like Metallica, but not. signing up for a Metallica concert. Not. a big concert guy in uh myself. Love. music. Don't love the whole all the. shenanigans. Sure. Getting in, doing it,

getting out, going home. There's a. 2-year-old, a lot of jobs, traffic, all. that [ __ ] Getting in, getting out. Yeah, that's what I'm referring to. I'm. referring to sitting in a parking lot. I'm even just talking walking, all. sweating. We're doing the whole thing. Like, I love the idea of concerts. I. don't personally love going to a lot of. concerts. With that being said, that one. I wish I would have been at. That felt. like a cool moment there. Tony Robbins, I saw on his uh Instagram he was at. AC/DC the other night. Wow. He was doing.

a fake clap, the Thunder Struck. I mean, it was it was incredible. Sand in my. boots, dude. That festival. See, we. should have been there. That feels like. one that we were certainly invited to. and certainly should have went to. Getting out of that one though, I saw a. lot of That's the thing. Yeah. You need. a copter or a boat uh to get out of that. jetack. That's when your jetack comes. in. You could just hang out with Whiz. and Chevy Woods and Will and the boys. You just float your [ __ ] ass out of. there. You know, it feels like that is. something that happens anytime Whiz is. around. But I'm happy to hear you had a. great morning of fun. One half. It.

wasn't fun, man. My life changed. forever. One half of the Hammer Cowboys. AP Tone is here. Nine-year NFL. Fun, huh? Life changing forever. Does that. sound fun? Yeah. Doesn't sound not fun. That sounds glorious. Sounds biblical. Okay. It's not fun. So, you had a. biblical fun morning. If no, you can't. describe it as fun because it was fun. Describing it as fun is like what am I. two years old on a shitty baseball team? Biblical doesn't seem fun. You know, like biblical means epic. I I always.

take biblical is something bad happened. Biblical is like you say is epic. Legendary. Uh something I'll remember. forever. Something I'll tell my. grandkids about. Something that's. something that is fun. No, that it's not. fun, man. You went on a ride this. morning. Not your NFL bet. DJ straight. Butler here this season but lips looking. better today. Yeah, one day better. Good ice back this morning. Smaller just. more compact. He did walk into this. office floating this morning at night, wasn't he? He came in screaming. He.

really was screaming from the moment he. entered the door through the locker room. all the way down the court into the. think tank. You could hear Connor. Yep. Connor was radiating. Yeah. And then. Gumpy behind him. Oh, buddy. You know, he's doing his thing with his little. flip-flop. He's flopping around. And. then Zitto comes running in. The boys. represented this morning. They certainly. did. Now, let's go to an attic in Ohio. Ladies and gentlemen, college football. national champion, Super Bowl champion, Rder Cup winner. Ladies and gentlemen,

AJ Hawk is here. AJ. Hawker Connor had quite a fun morning. Okay. I think more than fun, man. You. can't describe it as fun cuz if you. describe it as fun, it sounds like it. was a Mickey Mouse morning. No offense. It wasn't. It wasn't a Mickey Mouse. morning, AJ. Um, do do you want to know. what he's all jacked up about, AJ? Yeah, I I would love to I think a lot of. people would love to know what the how. he is describing it. I think has a lot. of people confused. We have some. breaking news. Running two.

action. Good transition talk. What? Tom Cruz is on the show tomorrow. Tom.

Cruz is on the show tomorrow. Obviously, uh, Final Reckoning is in theaters on. Thursday. Everybody is going to go to. this movie. It is 2 hours and 50. minutes, I believe, of non-stop right. hook, left hook, right hook, left hook. And Connor, Gumpy, and Zitto got a. chance to screen it this morning at 7:30. a.m. because it is a 3hour runtime. And. uh they showed up with the juice. I.

believe Connor cut a promo after the. screening to some movie site that might. get used somewhere. Connor was floating. in here this morning. It was the ride of. a lifetime is how you describe it. Yeah. One of the greatest movies I've ever. seen. Uh and and that is not hyperbole. I've watched Mission Impossible uh since. the inception, since the first one came. out. I've watched all of them. I've seen. them all multiple times last night. I. watched uh Reckon part one and then. Final Reckon was today. And and let me. just say, I mean, there there's nothing. you can prepare for. Okay, right off the.

bat, I won't go into it. No. spoilers. I thought myself I'm so jacked. up to talk about the movie. That's why I. gave a 10-minute interview after to the. guy who already seen it four times, may. I add, and he still sat through the. entire thing with us because he was so. juiced to watch it again. I can't wait. to see it again. Uh it truly is uh the. perfect movie start to finish. I think. that's the only real way to describe it. I 7:30 a.m. you're watching this thing. and and I was up at 5 cuz I couldn't. wait to get That's got to be the.

earliest anybody has seen this movie in. a day. And I'll tell you what, from what. it sounds like, it is the perfect way to. start your morning. I want to watch it. tomorrow morning at 7:30. So, I don't. know if that guy wants to watch it for. his fifth time, my second, but I would. go I would go tonight. I'd see it twice. in one day if it was possible. It was. that good of a movie. And I just I just. my heart goes out to TC for everything. he's done for us. Shout out to Paramount. obviously giving us the opportunity to. screen that beforehand. I got, you know, a family and also home from Raleigh. I. was not able to make it this morning. Uh.

the boys represented in AJ. I cannot. wait to talk to Tom Cruz. That'll be on. tomorrow 12:30 Eastern. AJ HHawk Tom. Cruz joining the program. Yeah, that. doesn't uh I mean when you say it out. loud it doesn't feel real. I mean how. since I I guess probably since the first. time I joined you when I was a guest on. your program back in the day. I think I. mentioned Tom Cruz probably my very. first ever appearance with you. So yeah, what a what a weird strange trip this. this whole situation is, huh? Yeah, it. certainly is. We uh we had a meeting.

with the Paramount folks, you know, to. set up the screener and everything like. that. And uh shout to Fosso. Shout to. Fosso kind of navigating the waters. here, piecing the things together, you. know, Fosso kind of piecing things. together. What we heard is that Tom Cruz. has definitely heard us talk about Tom. Cruz is what we heard. So I there was a. whole moment in the middle of this call. where I just stopped everything. I go, "So Tom Cruz knows the program." And. they go, "Oh yeah, he has seen a lot of. your guys stuff." I go, let's just take. a moment here. And then Ty's in the. back. Yes. Yes. Like screaming in the.

back. Um, yeah, it's going to be, man. Yeah, I'm excited. I I am very excited. Ty, I know you were zaked up. You got a. little zipper burn there whenever it. all. It's hard not to. I mean, I've been. living and dying with TC since I can. remember, to be honest. We can go back. to Taps, you know, which came out like 9. years before I was born. I think I've. seen every single movie in TC's catalog. multiple times. And I mean, we're gonna. get to talk to the guy. I think we. should we should maybe clip you talking.

about Tom Cruz just all the time that. you have because it's always the same. exact thing. TC did it again. TC did it again. And then every clip we. see uh from the promotional run of all. the [ __ ] that he's doing, he's like, "This guy's 60 years. What? He is He's a. mad man. He is a complete psychopath. will do anything for the the masses. entertainment and like Con I mean he he. never loses he never fails every single. time and he just keeps keeps pushing the. envelope 12 billion at the box office.

that's pretty good 12 billion largest. non Marvel character uh all time box. office 12 I just started doing my. research on I'm like I can't believe. we're going to talk to this guy I should. show some respect let me do some. research on this guy that's gonna be 13. by the way probably more I mean I just. mean in the next month. This one's good, huh? It is. It's so You mentioned all. like the footage like even that little. sneak peek there. It doesn't even. encapsulate what this movie is about. It's way more than that. Well, shout out.

to Tom Cruz joining program. Love you. TC. They said he's probably saying this. They They said he does know the program. I I'm excited for him to experience our. show, too. Yeah. I'm excited for how. that's going to go. I think it's pretty. normal, probably. I mean, the dude's. been he's been the biggest star for the. past four decades, right? I mean, if. he's 60 years old, I assume he's been. acting before he was 20. He was in some. of those old school movies. Yeah. Like, the the longevity is unheard of with. what this guy does. So, there's been a. lot of talk about him chitchatting with. the movie theater employees and like.

thanking them for what they do and then. diving into the convo about, you know, popcorn, how much they like popcorn. He. needs two big things of popcorn when. he's at the movies. I think he literally. just wants to promote the movie. industry. Like everything about him is. just movies. We need to promote the. movie theaters. And then the way he eats. popcorn, it's it's a man's comfortable. around a bag of popcorn. Is comfortable with popcorn. I mean, there's there's hang time on the. Colonels. Yeah. The popcorn.

This entire said, "Did did debut?" I. just wanted to see the video. You. question if Tom Cruz is eating popcorn. again. Look at this. You can clearly see. the popcorn. Boom. Boom. Boom. It's in. his cheek right there. Boom. Two of. them. Maybe three in there. We don't. know. Slight of hand. There's a ton in. there. His mouth is [ __ ] That guy. right next to him is going, "Jesus, this. guy's this guy's playing catch with. popcorn with himself." There's no cooler. way. His mouth is [ __ ] I promise you. I can't believe you just said that. Me. and you were about to just ask Ryan.

Clark RG3 this. You keep talking about TT. I'll go. there. We told him, well, there was a. third party jump in there, too. That. will probably be die, too. We don't need. that, boys. Put swords down. There's. enough enemies already. There's enough. enemies already, boys. Possible together. Yeah. Seems like Tom Cruz would be able. to make Exactly. Squash all beef. That. would end all wars. I can't believe. [Music].

that popcorn journalist question. I did. not see a single to Debbut's credit. He. is great, greatest act, maybe greatest. actor of all time. Did you see any. popcorn actually go into the mouth or is. he just Let's watch this. He's doing. something already. Have you guys never. seen an alpha eat popcorn? Yeah, exactly. I guess that's what I've never. seen a Sorry. You've never seen the. biggest star on the planet eat popcorn. before? Yeah, it doesn't look like us. Marks eating it. Okay. It looks a little. different. Fair fair point. I wonder how.

deep he gets sometimes. So, you think he. stops like sometimes it hits his. stomach? No, I'm saying like do you. think you think he always does the full. like full throw or do you think. sometimes he plays with Oh, I think. sometimes he tosses like three or four. up. He's. gets them all. DC football. Oh yeah. NBA uh conference finals start tonight. Can't wait to watch. Uh who cares at. this point? We got Tom Cruz on the show. Should we just watch Should we watch. some highlights like Top Gun or.

something? Should we run that clip one. more time just to make sure it is real? Uh, ladies and gentlemen, breaking news. 3 2 1 action. His running form gets out. of the block so quick. His head is faster than anybody in. combo. Oh yeah, that pencil died, by the. way. Old school. It's a mask I wore for Halloween. Yours was much worse. I know. Not TC.

That was crazy. Jeez, I just got actually hanging from. points. Uh-huh. Jeez, it's real. Yeah. Yeah. Soak it in, boys. When did he start doing that type. of [ __ ] T like the stunts. Uh pretty. much like the first Mission Impossible. I'd say he probably did it before that, but like Mission Impossible, too. There's like it opens like with a. massive massive like mountain and uh TC. scaling that thing by himself with no. ropes or anything. Alec Connell type.

stuff. Yeah. Yeah. Free solo in this. [ __ ] He taught Alec how to climb. I. would assume he and Alec are able to. have conversations at us people with. emot feelings, you know, fear of I guess. cuz we watched Alec Con watching a. documentary that was filmed years ago in. thousands of miles away from where I was. sitting. But you watch his you watch his. like everything that hits the internet. for his promotion. I get nervous for. him. And it's every single scene is what. it sounds like. every single scene.

there's something bananas and he's doing. it all. Yes. He's flying the helicopter. He's flying the plane. We showed it last. year like a hundred times. Like the big. set piece from the the first movie was. when he rides the motorcycle off the. mountain and then parachutes and they. were like Tom's done this like 11 times. today. He's going to do it like nine. more times probably. He's just I mean. he's just a thrillseker. He's a junkie. He loves it. We watched it. You know the. other thing too and he's like I'll see. you at the movies. He's piloted in the. the plane and then just goes into a nose. dive right after that. I mean like he's. he's a helicopter pilot. He flies.

planes. He base jumps. He does this type. of [ __ ] Like he just he saves the. world. He does. He saved the business. That's Ethan H. And that's that's. another thing like that's why you say. like oh this guy like all he cares about. is the movies. Like he legitimately. Steven Spielberg said it is like without. Tom Cruz like people aren't going to. watch movies in movie theaters anymore. Like co would have killed the entire. industry and he legitimately like saved. the industry. see you at the movies is. how he ends everything. He like wants.

that to still forever be a thing. I feel. like he thinks that is like uh a part of. his duty almost as the biggest movie. star on earth. And I think this popcorn. thing he's doing right now is like I'll. see you at the movies and also let's buy. some popcorn. This isn't right now. Let's buy right now. He's always done. this. He's always loved popcorn. No, I. know. That's what I'm saying though. I. feel like that's always been his thing. Like hey, do the movies. What if he's. not? What if he's faking the popcorn? That'd be even better. I would be even.

more impressed if he's faking that. He's. a good actor. I'm asking him. Great. actor. Yes, he is. I'm the conspiracy. guy. Okay. Yeah. But you just You're. fresh off an Ethan Hunt ride of a life. Yeah. Yeah. You know why we're saying. fun so much to him? You know why we're. saying fun? Cuz Paul SK posted on his. Instagram story that it was fun to watch. the movie early. And Connor says, "I. hate Paul SK. If I want to say something. was fun, I wouldn't say it was Mission. Impossible Final Reckoning fun. It was a.

ride of a lifetime. It was right hook, left hook, right hook, left hook. What's. fun about a thrill of a lifetime?" It. was like, "That would be considered. fun." No, not enough. Paul needs to say. more is what you said about Paul. That's. That's verbatim. And I I know I I I'm. not sure if he's the one posting all of. his stuff, but no matter what, like you. don't describe Final Reckoning as fun. Okay, that's just not that's not But it. is fun. It it is way more than that. You. know, you're not you're not going to. describe something that changes lives in.

the futures of my life uh specifically. as fun. Okay. It it is it is something. that is almost unescribable. I I the. only thing I could probably compare it. to is like Awaska. I I assume that that. ceremony of mother ya is very similar to. what final right. Exactly. Because you. can't describe something that changes a. lifeanging event. Yeah. Is what you're. saying. Here's Paul skins. I had an. opportunity to watch this last week. Wow. That was a lot of fun. Huge.

compliment. I kind of get it con man. I. kind of get it. I do. I understand where. you're coming from. What's everybody's. deal? I kind of like it kind of knocks it down. like this is not a to be honest when we. walk. with I'm sorry you it did change Conor's. life it looks like I can't wait to see. what Conor does for when we walk out of. Top Gun Maverick all of us as a group if. some like if Bone would have said man. that was fun I would have punched him. right cuz we were all like reinvigorated. afterwards it's all relative though you. got to consider it from Paul. Ske for him to describe something as fun.

that basically is a transcendental life. changing was going to be a fire pilot. understands the entire thing and also. his life right now. Not a lot of fun. No, not fun at all. You know, he one. run, he gives up and they lose. Yeah, it. was supposed to be a legacy day. So, he. had a moment of happiness with Mission. Impossible Final. They should have said. that. That would have been better. Oh, bury his team. I had a moment of. happiness in my life. His team doesn't. give a [ __ ] They don't even have a. manager or an owner. They don't care. If. he said if he said happiness, that'd be.

a whole different story. He watched this. after this and he was like, "God, save. his life." That was fun. No, he said. last week, see, look, I'm on to Skings. I know what Skings is bringing to the. table. Joining us now, ladies and. gentlemen, is not Tom Cruz. That'll be. tomorrow. The NBA's version of Tom Cruz. Ladies and gentlemen, co-host of the. Knuckleheads podcast, Quentyn. Richardson. Sorry we got a little carried away. there. You had to watch all that. We got. Tom Cruz on the show tomorrow. It's.

absurd. Hey fellas, I appreciate you. inviting me here. I'm I'm salty that I. missed the invite to the 7:30. I'd have. been there bush side and breakfast ready. to go. I'm a Mission Impossible huge. fan. I can't believe it. No, I sent the. text. You didn't You didn't go. You. chose not to go, right? We texted him. No way. No. I can't believe that. I'm. I'm I'm over there. I'm feeling Connor's. energy through the Zoom. I I was there. That's fun. That's fun stuff. No. See, that's why he's feeling my energy, cuz. I'm not sitting here like, "Oh, I had a. really fun time at Mission Impossible.

this morning." No, that wouldn't that. wouldn't translate to Q Rich all the way. over in his own little being like, "Oh. my god, I got to go see this movie now. because I'm not sitting here like Paul. saying it was fun." Okay, Q Rich, I'm. kind of disgusted that Fost didn't. invite you to this next time this next. time we have maybe I agree. Jimmy Petar. was giving a speech. She needs to think. about what Foss did to Q Rich in this. entire situation, especially with TC. online tomorrow. I mean, it's a big. deal. Let's go to tonight, though. Please, can we It's hard to not talk.

about What's your favorite Mission. Impossible Q? Yeah, good. That's a good. question. Oh, man. It's it's it's it's. hard to pick one, man. I. It's hard. It's like all of them all of. them give you something and and you got. a you got some you got a special feeling. about each one of them, man. I can I man. all of them are fire to me. I just know. that I've been watching I'm like Connor. I've been watching since inception and. I'm disappointed I wasn't invited to the.

7:30 this morning but I will be seeing. it when it comes out. I'm going be I'll. see Tom Cruz at the theaters as he said. Thursday. Thursday it's coming out. Uh. okay let's talk about tonight conference. finals start tonight. Obviously the West. will lead things off here. uh. Timberwolves, Thunder, Ant, SGA. Obviously, a big part of the. conversation is the next generation of. superstars is now representing the NBA. in the conference finals. How should we. be viewing tonight's game? How should we. be viewing everything that's going to. happen in this particular series?

I mean, I can I can see why everybody's. saying these two guys can can. potentially be the face of the of the. league and all of that stuff. And and. and this series is going to be big for. me. Uh I I I I like OKC to win this. series. I think it should be a six or. seven game series. Highly competitive. And I I wouldn't be surprised though if. if if Julius Randall can continue to. show up how he's been showing up and. also Rudy Goar, I wouldn't be surprised. if Minnesota could go ahead and push. them. But with things as they are, OKC.

opening up at home, I don't know if. people been paying attention. That's the. loudest building in the arena. This. playoffs, that building gets nuts. I I'm. and I've seen I've seen Indiana. I know. what they bring. I've watched New York. I know how they bring it. But I I I feel. like that OKC crowd is is is the closest. thing to a college crowd that we got in. the league. Bingo. That's kind of how. I've been describing it. It feels like a. college atmosphere. Team feels like a. college team, too. Like a young team, obviously very together. Ant-Man has. enough to will the Timberwolves to six,

seven game series. That's why you think. it's going to be seven games. Do you. think it's just his will or how do you. feel about matchups here whenever you. talk about the two styles of play? I. think he's that special and I think if. at 23 years old, man, if he could do. this, he's he's beating a lot of people. to to even getting a chance to get to. the finals. I don't I don't know the. names off the top, but I know if he. could get that right now, he ain't got. no choice about that whole face of the. league. He going to at least be one of. them. If it's multiple or whatever, cuz. some people say it's more than one right. now. And if that's what it's going to. be, he's definitely going to be one of.

them. If he if he does this right here. and gets these guys to the finals that. no, nobody expected that, but those guys. in Minnesota possibly. Go ahead, AJ. Yeah. Q. Rich, with with SGA, if you. were Minnesota, I guess, what would your. game plan be to try to at least limit. what this guy could do? He seems like. he's everywhere. Makes every kind of. shot really kind of the facilitator. What would you do defensively to try to. slow him down? Man, you got to do you. got to send different looks at them. sometimes. You got to double them. you. got to send different different. coverages and do things to try to make.

him uncomfortable cuz I mean one thing. about SJ he's proven he's he's going to. get 20 to 30 points no matter who he's. playing against no matter what the. matchups been he's done it so many times. during the season and also in these. playoffs and I mean right now he's. facing again he's he's going against. some young guys as well it's not like. he's playing against some some super. veterans that that outnumber him in. experience and things like that so I. look for SGA to have a good good series. I think obviously it's going to be the. you know the battle of him and him and. um Ant Edwards, but I I need those those.

support guys to come through. And I look. at what SGA has in support. He has more. he has more depth. He has more guys that. do more than actually than the Ant-Man. does. On that note, uh Debbut has a. question. Yeah, you kind of answered it. with I was going to ask you who had the. better supporting cast, but with the. supporting cast and those role players, what's the difference playing on the. road and then playing at home going into. these type of games? I think it depends, man. It depends on the group of guys you. got. I've been on teams where where. obviously guys play great at home and.

play and play play better than they do. on the road. But I've also been on teams. where where we play better on the road. We feel better banding together and. going against the hostility. So I think. it just depends on the group of guys you. got and I think that shows itself, you. know, throughout the time of the season. and throughout these playoffs. They they. know who they are and they know where. guys play better at and I think it just. depends on, you know, the group of guys. you got. Okay, let's go to the East now. Pacers in five, maybe Pacers in six. Only people on ESPN saying that. Yeah, I.

know you were a Nick there for a while. and you're probably loving the vibes. coming out of New York City for the. Knicks, which I am as well. Anytime you. see an entire city come alive because of. sports, it's a beautiful thing. I was. over there in New York whenever they uh. Jaylen Brunson hit the three to seal the. last series, the entire city was alive. Obviously they seal their uh beating the. Boston Celtics. Place goes crazy. Like. that is a beautiful thing for sports. That is a beautiful thing for New York. City. That is a beautiful thing for. anything and anywhere whenever that.

takes place. Um Knicks fans on television just assume. the Knicks are going to win this. Okay. They they didn't think the Knicks were. going to beat the Celtics, but now. Pacers definitely no problem. Pacers. best record in the NBA in the Eastern. Conference since January. This hasn't. just been like a last couple weeks, last. month type thing. This has been about 6. months now worth of of great basketball. coming from the Pacers. Why do you think. all the New York fans think the Knicks.

are going to win this? Why do you think. everybody on TV thinks the Knicks are. going to win this? And is it strictly. the bias because it's the big city. taking on little old Indiana Q Rich? No, I think I think it it's got some merits. I mean, listen, if if I had to pick, I. would pick New York right now, too. But. saying that with a caveat, knowing just. like I said in the Cleveland series, this Indiana Pacers is everything you. just said about them and more. And they. they to me, the thing that I think they. don't get enough credit for is they. cohesiveness. The the togetherness they. play with as a unit and how they they.

they have six, seven guys that you don't. know who's going to kill you the worst. It's not always scripted like a lot of. the other teams. You say, "Shut down. this guy or that guy. You could have a. better chance." These guys want six, seven, eight guys out there and any of. them can get you 20 or possibly 30 on. any given night. So, I don't say that. lightly, but I do say what Jaylen. Brunson has done, the position he's. putting himself in with the way he. scored in the clutch and in the fourth. quarter and the way he's been able to. lift this team, I think he's put himself. as obviously he's not going to be the.

MVP, but in these playoffs, he's been. the best player in these playoffs to me. with what he's been able to do, no. matter what the situation was, no matter. how well he's playing or what how bad. he's playing. When that fourth quarter. came, he been money. He's been somebody. that you could go take to the bank and. he's going to get you something. You. don't know how he's going to do it. He's. got a little body, big body, but like. he's figuring things out and he's been. unstoppable when it matters most. So. when it comes down to a series that I. think this is going to be a six, seven. game series as well, but when you got a.

closure like that, that's that that's. the kind of thing that could tip the. scales in this series. Doesn't mean that. it will, but I mean when he's doing what. he's doing, that gives them a high. likelihood. I love watching this Knicks. team play. Yeah. I love everything about. it because everything you just said. about Brunson, but all of them, how all. the guys in the fourth quarter lock in. and it's like you find out who are the. dogs and who's not. Now, obviously what. they were doing to the Celtics and. beating the Celtics, people are going to. mention Tatum's injury. They were up. seven in the fourth whenever that injury. took place. They're the reigning champs. New York knocks them off. It's uh it's.

been a hell of a run for this Knicks. team. And Knicks Pacers in the Eastern. Conference Finals is a beautiful thing. I Yeah, I think so. I think it's a. beautiful thing and uh we're enjoying. the hell out of it over here. We know. New York is as well. Should be a great. thing for sports as a whole. Now, it. comes down to who's going to smack the. wood. Tone has a question for you. Yeah, Q. We know all the scorers and the. stars, but a lot of people don't know. about the defenses at all. Who do you. think is the best defense left? Who has. the best advantage there uh left in the. in the NBA playoffs?

I mean, statistically, I want to say. it's OKC. That's what that's what. they've really how they ran away with. their their record in the season. the. versatility of their defense, the the. the the multiple three and D wing guys. they have and then you know Hardenstein. and Czech kind of anchoring it in the. paint. But I mean when you go one. through four or five, one through three. or four, they got a lot of versatile. guys that could that could guard a lot. of different positions and do different. things defensively. So I I think it. would probably be OKC at this point. Smack the wood, brother. Got to do that. All right, let's talk about some things.

Crazy, Pat. I let you slide the first. time. That is crazy. That's what you. guys do in basketball. Don't you smack. the wood? You bop the wood. That's what. you guys do in B. That's your basketball. thing. Smack the floor. No, they bop the. wood. You guys get your feet on the. wood. You guys bop the wood. Rub the. wood. Rub the wood. Smack the wood. Lick. the wood. Help me here, man. I give so. many. Seems pretty racist when you said. that there. I didn't want to get into. it, but there's been a lot of racist. talk in sports media. I don't want to.

dive into it, but Jesus. I referred to B. but because the last time it was some. meat or wood. Bro, pause, bro. Pause, dude. Hey yo, what's this guy's problem? Jeez. Jeez. No bread. Anyways, sometimes you got to. whack the wood a little bit. Yeah. The. wood every time you got That's your. guys' sport, not mine. I mean, Jesus. Uh, let's talk about things that aren't. the playoffs, shall we? Ty, has a. question for you. Yeah, Curich, I don't. think we've talked to you since the. lottery and we mentioned it leading up.

to it. I mean, people don't want to say. it's rigged, but LeBron said he. understood the assignment when the Cavs. got the first pick, the Bulls getting. the first pick with D Rose. And then. even like I think yesterday, Shaq on his. podcast said that David Stern came up to. him before the lottery and said, "Hey, do you want to play in, you know, warm. weather or cold weather?" And he said. warm. And well and behold, you know, the. Timberwolves get the third pick, then. Charlotte, then Orlando gets the first. pick. Uh, I don't want to say, you know, do you think it's rigged, but how.

shocked were you when the Mavs got. awarded the first pick? I think they had. the fourth longest odds ever in the. history of the lottery. And also, do you. think that they'll hold on to that pick. and draft Cooper Flag or do you think. they'll use that to potentially, you. know, trade for a guy like Giannis or. something like that? Uh, yeah, I was. definitely shocked when they got it. I. was I was uh I was excited and happy for. uh for Nico and that fan base after. everything that's going on. Obviously, that's been well documented. But, uh, as. far as like the whole is it or isn't. rigged, this is my thing. When when.

everybody says that the NBA is rigged, like you know how many players, how many. like front office people have been let. go from the NBA. And this is why I say. unless unless they out there doing. something that I don't know about. I've. never seen a a huge group of people like. that, everybody be able to keep a. secret. When people leave on good, bad, turn different. I feel like if it was. something like that, somebody would have. come out on the record at this point and. said something to dispel that because to. me it's too easy. Everybody talks. I.

feel like I was in the league. I I've. been part of the NBA since 2000 and I. would know something. Somebody would. have said something. Even if even if I. wasn't the person in the room, I would. have known somebody that know somebody. Like we noted that big a group of. people. You see what I'm saying? So it's. like to me that's the part that's that's. that's tough for me to believe that it's. this big thing going on and everybody's. just keeping their mouth closed like. come on man we watch first 48 somebody. always talk quick to first 48. room McDonald's in the room it's over.

with yeah two different rooms hey you. hear what he said over here this what we. already know lying oh if that's what he. said then boom bang played you both. you're both going forever yeah it is uh. first 48 exposed a lot of what I thought. was real isn't you know and And uh I. think it also taught a lot of people you. look out for yourself in there. And to. your point about the secrets um there's. a lot of things in the world that people. think you know that whole thing you're. get you're putting a lot of faith in. humans. You're putting a lot of faith in. humans to not pillow talk to not just.

want to you know brag about knowing. something. And in the world that we're. in everybody wants to get in front of a. microphone and say something that's. never been heard before seemingly. So uh. a lot of faith in humans if they're. keeping that secret. And also, I don't. know. I guess Dallas deserves it for. trading Luca, but I don't if that would. have gone if that would have gone. anywhere, there would have been some. storyline. So, nobody was saying Dallas. beforehand. Yeah, exactly. It's going to. go to They taking Cooper Flag, too. They.

taking Cooper Flag for sure. I assumed. it was in the other direction. It's. like, hey, this guy could be a. generational player. We don't want him. going to Utah. We don't want him going. to Washington. Ryan Ste, you don't think. Ryan Ste? love him, but they won like 12. games this year. Like, you know, we. don't want him to just go wither away in. the cold and never to be heard from. It's a beautiful state. Yeah, I know. I. know. Fastest growing city in the United. States. It's the Lakers. It's the Lakers. thing. You know, you know who got the. number one pick when Anthony Davis got. traded to the Lakers? Who's that? The. Pelicans. And now who gets number one.

pick after Luca gets traded to the. Lakers? Who's that? The Mavericks. So. you you build up the LA Lakers, the. biggest second biggest franchise in the. NBA to the Celtics. And then what do you. do to the Mavs? They will give you. Cooper flag. Yeah. But you see, this is. the thing. You You playing over there as. he's talking. You need the X-Files music. over the back. all time. All day. Every day. All day. Every day. Now, let's talk a little bit. more about, you know, teams that aren't.

competing in the playoffs. Go ahead. All. day. Every day. except for today because. there was some terrible things being. said about Tom Cruz's popcorn. consumption. Q Rich, you might have. missed, but he eats that popcorn. But. looking at the off season completely, Hugh Rich, there's a lot of. conversation. Ty mentioned Giannis, uh. the Suns, KD feels like the Celtics are. going to be making some moves, the. Sixers, maybe even the Clippers, the. Nuggets, who knows? But do you think. that this is going to be a very active. um off seasonason when it comes to NBA. players kind of moving homes and the.

league kind of changing a little bit? And do you think any of that has to do. with this draft, it feels like being. considered more of a stronger draft with. some top talent up there? Uh anytime you. have somebody like Giannis come out and. and it's it's a possibility that he. could be moved and obviously the the KD. situation is looming and everybody. believes that he will be moved as well. So, I mean, when you got two two. all-timers, two top 75 guys that's. that's on the slate to be moved in the. in the offseason, you know, it's going.

to be a big offseason because those. dudes are what you call seismic. activity. E either one of them, anywhere. they go, that's like a huge move in the. NBA and there's going to be a lot of. pieces that move along with it. And. anytime those teams go, wherever they. end up, you see some of the other teams, depending on where they end up and how. how good those teams are, you see other. teams try to go and make moves to try to. counter that or try to put theirself in. situation to to be ready for that. So, I. think it's definitely going to be a big. a big offseason of moving around and a. lot of player movement led by Giannis.

and KD. I like it. That's always good. news for us anytime big things happen. like that Luca trade. You would see how. people are like the NBA worked it. because when Shams fires off that. midnight tweet that Luca got traded to. the Los Angeles like Anthony Davis also. traded. Nobody even really that wasn't. even a part of the story. Everybody. thought Seam's phone was hacked and. everybody was talking about the NBA for. what the next three days. Yeah, that was. the night of the Rumble. That literally. that Yeah, it was right after Royal. Rumble. So everybody was talking about.

the NBA. That hadn't been happening. Remember there was conversation about. the ratings. the NBA is kind of falling. into irrelevancy for some reason. yada. yada yada. Then the Luca trade happens. and it's all of a sudden LeBron and Luca. are the new tag team that the entire. world is talking about for good reason. I mean, we we obviously were excited. about it. Everybody was kind of pumped. up about it and I think the NBA from. that point on had like a hell of a all. the way to now. It's been hell of a year. in this entire thing towards the end. So, you can see how people think it was.

a work. Adam Silver Master Class. You. would see how people would think it was. a work cuz how positive it was for the. entire league of itself. So you could. see how that would be an easy. conversation for people to have. I can. see it. But I mean it's not like you. know Nico, it was obviously trading a. young superstar, but you got Anthony. Davis and you were going to pair him up. with Kyrie. So they weren't going to be. in the lottery at any point in the near. future if Kyrie stays healthy. But I can. definitely see how the story can be. built, you know, on Hey, and Nico likes. to do what? He talked about it. What.

wins championships? Get rich. What did. Nico say? He ain't lying. The wood. Bop the wood. Homewood. Wood. Whack yourself. It's not like the. Mavericks ownership want to move the. team either. All right. We appreciate. the hell out of you, Q Rich. Good luck. to your Knicks. It sounds like you're. pulling for them uh in this series like. everybody else. Just know that little.

old Indiana is about to run everybody. off the court. That's what we're gonna. try to do. And uh we appreciate the hell. out of your time. Yes, sir. Anytime, fellas. Appreciate you. You still you. play pickup at all? Nah, I don't move. around. I shoot, though. I I like my. Achilles. I'm nervous to go do anything. sudden. I I've seen too many of them. I. sat in the doctor's office when when. Brandon Jennings when I was with. Detroit, when Brandon Jennings sat there. and got his I was there when he got his. surgery and stuff and the doctor was. looking at me. He said, "How old are. you?" And I was like 38, 39. Then he was. like, "Uh, yeah, you you guys are the.

ones if they that bought me my lake. house." He was like, "The weekend. warriors, once a week guys, you want to. get in there." He was like, "Every other. week, somebody popping one." And I. always kept that in my head. I was like, "Yeah, I never did that in the league. I'm not about to do it now afterwards. playing around." So I I I chill. I. Anybody want spot shooter, I'll shoot. your face off. But other than that, I I That's something you always have, right? Shooters will always have a shot. It ain't going nowhere. It's like riding. a bike. All I got to do is get a couple. warm-up shots. Calibrate wherever I'm. at, the wind, whether it's outside and.

whatnot. And then I'm I'm going light. you up. We need you to come into the. Thunderdome. We watch Steve Nash. Steve. Nash maybe two bottles of wine deep. And. at the time he just got done uh filming. the Mind the Game podcast. And we go, "Uh, Steve, you want to play a shooting. game?" He goes, "I haven't shot in like. 11 years or something like that." He. said, "I don't really do that much." And. then he gets he goes from like six. feet. He goes in, gets the ball, backs. up two feet. goes in, backs up two feet, two.

feet, splash, splash, splash. He goes, "Yeah, I think so. I think I got it.". Goes into the. corner, splat. I mean, not not even 10. for 10. 10 for 10. Didn't even hit the. rim and he's drunk. The guy was drunk. And it was like, this is unbelievable. for this to happen. So, we need And. Tyrese Hallebertton, same exact thing. He came in here, I think he went 15 for. 15. That kind of turned the season. around legit. And it I think that could. potentially be a documentary that needs. to be talked about. He got the footage.

We talked a lot of [ __ ] to him, too. We. were talking a lot of [ __ ] cuz he was. having a bad he was having a bad go. there for a little bit at the beginning. of the year. He goes 15 for 15. He. starts talking [ __ ] back to us. And when. was that? Was that in January? Yeah, I. think so. Yeah, just about. So, K Rich, what we're saying is we need to see if. it's just all NBA guys just come in here. and [ __ ] don't miss or how am I. missing shot? How are we missing so many. shots again? Question. Is the hoop. bigger here? I don't get it. You guys. are just unbelievable. Why? What? So you.

won't miss, right? When you're no. defense, you're kind of standing in a. place. You're going to make that shot. Like I watch these NBA warm-ups. Guys. I've never heard of are just like. seemingly 20 for 20 all over the court. You guys all do that. And what's the. difference? Just a little bit. That's. the memory. Like when you by the time. you get to the NBA, man, you've done. you've done that motion. You've shot the. ball so many times. If you anywhere, even guys that get into the league that. aren't the greatest shooters, by the. time they spend seven, eight, nine, ten. years in the league and you doing this. as a job and you going and shooting.

every day, every time you show up to. work, you shooting. When you go to work. out, you shooting. Come on, man. If you. don't learn how to shoot at some point, you just, hey, you should have did. something else. But like when we've been. shooting, man, since I was four or five. years old. So to me, it's never going. nowhere. I'm I'm always, you know, like. like Stevie like Stevie on the strip. Give me a little stretch. Give me a. couple little warm-ups and then let's. get it cracking. All right, we got a. game for you. We'll give you some wine, too, if you want. We got to get the NBA. guys a little a little drunker. Yeah, I. got to get the NBA guys a little bit.

more boozed up. We got some vitamins in. here, too. Change your altitude. Maybe. the ball gets a little lighter. And uh. and I'm going to Hey, we will bop the. wood, too. We're going to play some. defense. Ladies and gentlemen, Gwen. Richard. Thank you, Rich. It's been. unbelievable watching these guys. shooting here. Yeah, it's a different. game. Yeah, Stephen Tyresese. Hallebertton was having bad year. Bad. year. Not shooting well. People were on. him. Like it was bad. He was having. turnovers. Yeah, he was. That's how bad. it was. I mean, he broke the record this. year, I believe, for most games with.

like 10 assists and no turnovers. And he. was having like five, six, seven, eight. turnovers in a game. Yeah. And that. four-point game that he had on that. Friday night against uh Cleveland or. whatever, one for nine. He was having. those in the beginning of the year. And. no, nobody understood I don't think he. understood why. I don't think anybody. understood why. And uh I don't know if. he had already turned it around or if. they were in the process of turning it. around, but when he came here, it was it. was like he was shooting at a bigger. hoop than everybody. It was and he was. backing up. He was two steps behind the.

line just chucking it up like what he. did the other night from the logo or. whatever. He did that in here seven. straight times. Didn't even touch the. rim. And I'm like, geez, this is. unbelievable. And Doc Martens, too. Yeah, he looks Yeah, he's dressed like. an [ __ ] And then Stephen Nash comes. in, does the same exact thing. It's like. these guys are just they just got it. Yeah. Different level. Good teammate, too. I think that I think that. contributes. Who's that? Those guys when they came in here, they. were playing with a pretty good player. Kind of raised their skill. Yeah, I.

think so, too. You're 100% right. Connor. has undefeated as a 33 basketball. player. Uh, with NBA guys as his. teammate. So, what does that say about. me? Great team. NBA guy. Great team. He. does shoot well. You Conor shoots well, too. I think he feels the pressure. I. think you feel the pressure. Yeah, cuz. Steve Nash was talking little [ __ ] to. you. Yeah. And then when And then when I. made one, he was talking in my shot back. swing. I'm like, "Hey, Steve, who the. hell do you think you are? Like, get. shut up. How about that, brother?" And.

then we put like 30 on you guys in one. round. Yeah. I mean, just to be clear, 30 to three and we stopped playing. Me. and Foxy. Yeah, we did stop. Me and Foxy. are trying to be hospitable to our. guests. Yeah, it was a long day, too. So, we were a little tired. That's. solved. You know, you know what that's. gonna get us? No gold medals in the. Olympics. We're gonna get all the gold. medals. We decided that. If. we'reospitable in LA, there's been a. sport that has been in the Olympics the. last few times. Yeah. Shout out America. Mhm. Ladies and gentlemen, joining us. now is an absolute legend in the golfing.

world. traveled out here to. Indianapolis, Indiana to not only. chitchat about an event that's happening. in August here, but also to go see the. Indiana Fever. Oo, a guy that everybody. wants to be friends with, a guy that is. currently the captain of the Range Goats. Golf Club in Live Golf, twotime Mast's. champion, ladies and gentlemen, Bubba. Watson.

[Applause]. there. We got to get you a Bubba head. Yeah. Oh, I will actually. The Pink Driver. whenever it came into existence, we all. loved it. Electrifying cuz you were. hitting the [ __ ] out of that thing with. no swing coach, right? Wasn't that the. big story? Lessons. That's still the. same story. Yeah, still the same. I. can't afford a lesson, man. I can't. They're expensive. Uh I think now you.

can. We Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We all Yeah. But just for the record, if it was a. hundred million or whatever y'all said. yesterday, I watched your show. So. whatever y'all said yesterday, if it was. a hundred plus million, I wouldn't even. have read the contract. I would have. signed that thing so fast. So it wasn't. even near a 100red million. Hundreds. It. was even close to 100. So real quick, so. were all of those numbers gassed up a. little bit, you think? Well, the. internet's not always true. What? Len by the And by the way, I really want. to talk to you about this. He wasn't. eating that popcorn.

He's on the show tomorrow. You don't. want that smoke, brother. Yeah, y'all. bumped me for him. Coming in a day. earlier. He did. Yeah, I would have. bumped me, too. Yeah, Bubba was supposed. to be on the show tomorrow. Bubba made. an earlier trip. We got Tom Cruz. Bubba. is going to be a little bit He is. certainly eating. There is no chance. he's eating. That's why the first fell. because he he hit his mouth. He closed. his mouth early and it fell and then you. could tell that wasn't his hand never. moved open. He was No. What are you.

talking about? He was just like Q Rich. Q Rich said once he kind of figures out. the room and the the wind then he'll. figure it out. He was just trying to. figure out the room right there. That's. that movie magic. You don't you don't. look that good at 82. What? How old are. you? 62. You watch I honestly I want to remove. myself from this stage to be completely. honest, but I won't. He doesn't have 100. million but it's close. Uh all right, Bubba. Let's talk about it. Let's talk. about the golf. Let's do it. Scotty. Shuffler is the man. Okay. So, boring.

He's boring. No, I don't think so. I. think his game is so good. I think his. game is so good it takes up for. everything else. Also, wouldn't you love. it if he just started yelling at people? We got to [ __ ] you out of him. We got to. [ __ ] you out of him on the head on the. hat sl uh the hat throw afterwards. I. think it's because his driver was not. doing well. I think he feels like he. probably grinded out that Sunday at. Quail Hollow. But how long do the people. in the golf world, you guys, do you talk. about him goat stat, like when does that. start happening? Because obviously you. got you got Jack, you got Tiger, and. then Scotty is the conversation at this.

point. What does he need to improve? What does he need to do? And why is he. so good? Is it just his ability to. focus? What is the difference? Well, first of all, I think that, you know, he's only been around what, four years. as a pro. So he's got 16, 12, 18 wins, whatever he's got. So I think um he's. getting there to the GOAT status. He's. gaining on it, but he's still got a long. way to go. Um, I think his year last. year, when you count even the the event. he had in Vegas, nine wins, I think that. was the best year we've ever seen as a. golfer. Uh, with the competition around.

the world now, the world's playing. Um, so yeah, I think he's definitely on his. way to GOAT status, but he's still got a. long way to go. I mean, you got to get. to 80 some odd wins, right? So, um, and. what was the other part you said? Why is. he so good? It's just his ability to. concentrate. I think he Yeah, his. ability to he trusts himself. He's he's. only focused on golf. Um he has a great. man on the bag, Teddy, who cattied for. me for 15 years. Um and then he and then. he believes in himself. He he putts. unbelievable. Um but his ball striking,

he's swaying on the ball, he's doing all. this stuff, but he knows what his golf. swing is. He knows what he wants to do. And he's and he's not, like I said, he's. boring. He's playing boring golf. So his. heart rate is just staying right here, even under pressure. So, he started. pulling a driver a little bit and then. we heard uh Saturday night he stayed. He. was he had a five-stroke lead and he. stayed for multiple hours fixing his. grip. Are you guys constantly adjusting. things during the tournament? How how. normal is that? Well, I think for him, you know, he came out and said that his. driver was was tested as well. And so, I.

think putting in a new driver, your baby. is now gone, so he's trying to figure it. out. And every time you put a new grip. on or a new shaft in there, it doesn't. line up the way you want it to. You. haven't got the grip worn in the way you. want to. So, he's trying to figure it. out knowing that Sunday is going to be. one of the hardest rounds that he's. going to face, right? I mean, he even. came back to tied for the lead. They. went back up to leading. Um, so it's a. hard round of golf when you know you're. winning that big. How do you stay. focused and committed and, you know, not. try to just par, right? Yes. He has to. attack. Yeah. And he does. He continues.

in on 18. He puts one to what, like four. feet or whatever with the water to the. left. He had already locked it up. because Rahm had his run and then he. kind of disappeared. 16, 17, and 18. a. lot of conversation about Rahm is you. guys only play 54 holes at Liv. It's a. little bit different. Is it different. like having a Sunday for Rom? Because. Rahm mentioned afterwards he was like I. haven't felt that in a long time. I I. haven't felt that type of thing because. obviously Liv different style of golf, different form of golf, different. environment of golf. I I can't wait to. talk to you about what the future is.

You guys all think uh for Liv that are. in it and living it. But do you think. that is a little bit working against. some of the live guys those Sunday days. uh in how long these tournaments are? No, I I think what I what I got from. Rahm's interview was was more of of he. he loved the chase. When you get in a. major, it's different than any other. event in the world. I mean, you're. playing all around the world. You're. playing on the PJ tour, but a major is. different. You're you're dealing with. your you're you're fighting yourself. because you're thinking about. interviews. You're thinking about this. could be my next major. This could be my. first major, my eighth major, whatever.

it is. And so you're thinking about that. and then when you're thinking about. chasing, he had to attack 17, especially. after he bogeied 16. So it is it's a. birdie double. I mean, that's how fine. line it was. So I don't think it was. anything of energy. I mean, he works. out. He's young. Um, you know, it's just. one of those things where he just that. wasn't his day. That wasn't his last few. holes. It was awesome to watch Ron back. in there. De Shambo back in there. It. was nice to see the big names. How do. you think Liv has gone? How how have you. enjoyed your experience with Liv? as we.

can talk about it from a golf fans. perspective where the majors it's. awesome to see everybody back together. I assume you guys have similar thoughts. about it all. Yeah, for sure. When I. looked at it from a business standpoint, you know, the contract and what where. Liv wants to be in 10 years, it goes. back to yesterday your point. Your point. was talking about it's a new business. I. mean, this is a new adventure. Uh most. businesses don't really aren't. successful after a few years. And so, you have to have the growing pains. You. have to develop. And we're a worldwide. we're we're F1 racing. We're we're. worldwide sport. We're trying to bring.

golf to the masses around the world. PJ. tour, we're not fighting with the PJ. tour. The PJ tour is America. It's PJ. Tour and we're trying to bring around. the world. Everybody's watching around. the world. Just us hasn't got in there. yet. And when you think of F1 with the. team aspect where you're playing against. your teammate, but also you're trying to. win the the constructor's cup. Um, you. know, that's the same thing we're trying. to do. The Range Goats are trying to win. the championship, but also you're trying. to win individually. I enjoy the team. aspect of it. I I think they're I enjoy. the team aspect of I think you guys got.

sick merch, too. Range goat's a great. name. Well, we you know, we actually put. some thought into it. You know, the golf. ball, the golf tea is I like that. And. then you got swamps. Then you got that's. that's the irons. If you can see Oh, yeah. The bits. Yeah. And then you got. hooks and slices as the horns. Oh, and. then you got the rough is like the. goatee. The We actually think. Good logo, Bubba. good logo and then and. then when you think of goat we think of. greatest of all time and for me it's.

it's twofold I had going through some. mental struggles so it's grow on a team. and then it's golfers on a team so goat. stands for something else to me and then. a driving range was the funny part. because the range is like where I don't. like to go I like to go play golf so I. hate going to the driving range so it. just it just tied in some funny parts as. part of the team logo and you talked. about some mental stuff where was that I. assume golf is a tough game. I I was a. punter, obviously, kicker in college. A. lot of in between the years. I think. pitchers experience a similar type.

thing. It's a lot of or shooting a free. throw. Yeah. Free throw. It's a lot of. in between the years. Is that what. you're talking about? Mental stuff? 100%. And what I my struggle was I was. putting I was putting when I played golf. in 24 hours of Golf Channel. Um, when I. was playing golf and I'd shoot bad, it. it it made me think of that's they were. judging me as a person, you know, because I shot 75 or I or I double bogey. the last hole to lose or triple bogey. the one of the holes. And so I was. letting that define who Bubba Watson. was. Um, and so I was going the wrong.

way. It took many years. It didn't, it. wasn't overnight. It was started from. like 200, we'll say 2009 all the way up. to like 2014. And um I went from 200 lb. to 160 pounds. So I went to the doctor. I did all these tests and the doctor. said, "There's nothing wrong with you.". And I said, "Well, there is. Look at. me." And um it was just anxieties and. stress were eating me alive. And I was. just I was eating foods. I wasn't. changing my diet, but I was losing. weight. That's when we realized I was. just battling anxieties and stress and.

um letting golf dictate who I was as a. person. Yeah. Control your happiness. Uh. the outcome of something that's might be. out of your control in this entire. thing. Did you have imposter syndrome. out there? Um, you think that led to I. faked it. You're saying? No. Do you like. imposter syndrome is whenever you um you. basically think to yourself, I don't. deserve what I am currently doing right. now. You you start to question whether. or not you're supposed to be where you. are. For sure. 100%. You you you think. about I had that. I want to let you know. I had that as a punter. I had that on a. very regular basis in this current life.

It is something I think a lot of people. battle with. I think we all do it, right? especially as men cuz men don't. want the first thing I had to do is when. I I fell to my knees when I finally. realized I have to change I went to my. wife in 21 years of marriage I had to go. tell her the truth right like I mean I. she knows everything about me like 98%. you know like and so so you have to tell. her the truth who you are you're weak. you're not this man this great man that. everybody thinks you are or you think. you are you're weak and so I had to go. and talk to her and share her my true.

feelings and my thoughts and then I'd go. talk Teddy. Teddy was on my bag at that. time. Now it's better gig with with. Sheffler. But um I think everybody goes. through it, brother. Right. And so. that's what I'm saying. I think as in. men in general have that problem. Come. on. Way to battle. Yeah. For sure. That's not easy, man. That is not easy. Especially in the sport of golf. I've. actually given up the game. So is. Connor. Yeah. Conor. I don't know. You. got that new swing now. Whatever. Whatever that elbow thing was. That was. terrible. I got a pool, brother. I got a. pool, bro.

in the pocket. You got a video. I. watched that video. It's a good social. out the pocket. Thank you, AJ. AJ, get. in the slot. You got to get in the slot. I'm out here and whatever the hell that. is. Yeah. What? Yeah. Whatever that is. What's your guys? You don't pull with. this, man. This is the I'm I'm even. showing you righty. And And this is what. you come through with. This just going. to react to it. God, I hate the sport. Thought you had it. I thought I had it. out. Watch this. Look at this. Look. Put. Can you put it up back here? Look at. this. Just like me. They're pulling. But. what's leading it? The shoulder. That.

front shoulder is leading it all. So I'm. pulling. I'm leading by pulling like. when I'm when I'm axing. Don't do that. Go put them put them wrist down a little. bit. It's too far out. I see what what's. the uh what's the uh the golfer Kashan. Uh yeah. Yeah. With with the Japanese. the shallow swing. Have you ever seen. this guy? He's Instagram. Haven't told. me a name yet. Huh? That's the issue. I. know. I'm happy. Some Japanese guy. He's.

a Japanese guy. He's at a driving range. and which is not just a driving range. Mountain. Yeah. Gorgeous. And then every. time he he just has this nice smooth. just like easy swing and it's a draw. every time into the sky. He's so cool. And then he says just do the shallow. swing. It's like I'm trying, brother. Okay. I watch every video you got. I. watch this BJ tour one. I need to pull. that thing into here. Bubba, you want no. lessons? No lessons. No lessons. So, do. you think that's potentially a part of. the problem that you were having? Because I think um you rely on your.

fundamentals in the high pressure. moments. I think No, I think if you look. at if you look at um the greatest. golfers, right? I think that they have. something unique. Arnold Palmer, you're. not going to teach Arnold Palmer swing. You're going to teach Jack Nicholas. swing, Scotty Sheffler. Um you're not. going to teach that. And I think some of. the some of the there is some robots, we'll call them robots on golf swings. Nick Fo was one who who was um very. good. He could get in that robotic mood. and just play golf to the best ability. Um but like Scotty Sheffler, I mean he's.

moving everywhere. His feet are dancing. everywhere. But you're not you don't. teach that. That's kind of self-taught, but then he's worked on the fine. details. We are wrapping up here on. ESPN. We'll continue on YouTube, ESPN. Plus, Disney Plus with. Bubba, an absolute legend. And uh. remember Tom Cruz is on our show. tomorrow. Bubba got bumped today for Tom. Cruz tomorrow. Yep. Everybody. understands. Be a friend. Tell a friend. something nice. Might change your life. Goodbye. All right. We're still alive, obviously. Okay. So, what do I need to. work on? You think I don't want to quit. the sport entirely. Okay. I like the.

sport. At one point, it was my goal to. work enough. All the boys can become. rich. Got to bet I can disappear. Yeah. I got a 30-year bet with this guy. I got. a 30-year bet with this guy. Bubba. thinks about that. Yeah. He owes me 10. million bucks. I make the cut. I thought. it was 20. I think he's 50 now. Who. knows? Yeah, you're right. Yeah. All of. this. You're 100% right. 100 million. This guy owes me 50 million bucks if I. can make the cut at a senior PGA event. So, I got what 30 years or whatever to. make that happen. What do I need to. work? How old are you now? 38. Okay. Got.

to make a cut. Got to make a cut. If you. do that, whatever that wing thing you're. doing, but a champions tour doesn't have a cut. So, that's a good point. Yeah. Give me an exemption, brother. Top 20. You get a top 20 of a champions event, then you go then you count. That's. different. We never said that. Never. said that, brother. But what is what is. the number one thing you see amateur. golfers doing that you think to yourself. like doofus? Like this is this is so.

simple. Like what I know you I don't. know how often you get to play. Maybe. proams or something like that. You get. to see I play all the time at home with. amateurs. Oh yeah. I play with the. members all the time. I love it. What is. the biggest? Obviously I hit a massive. slice of the biggest thing is chipping. and putting. That's what changes the. game. Yeah. My putt, my flick is the. worst. But but nobody But what what do. you think about when you're putting just. person wants to go putt and chip? They. want to hit the driver. Amen. We want to. hit it hard, right? We want to fly it. Yeah. Far long, too. Yeah. Won't hit.

that thing long. Exactly. Talk about. good wood. Yeah. Great wood. Big wood. You're telling me I need to putt a. little bit more. Yeah. Putting chip. That's where the That's where you're. going to lose the most strokes. You're. only hitting a driver at most 14 times. So you're chipping and putting a lot. more than that. You're putting what 30. times at best. So, you got to practice. putting and chipping. We're putting a. lot more than that. Bubba, well, I was. trying to let you know we're putting a. lot more than that. Debut has a question. for you. We kind of talked about it the. uh the team aspect of live and I don't I. don't know specifically through your.

journey how many teams you played on. golf up until that point. But how long. did it take you to get used to that? Because golf is such an individual. sport. Most of us played team sports up. here. And some of those days when you. may feel like [ __ ] or you don't have. your best stuff, you got a teammate to. kind of lean on and pick you up. So, how. long did it take you to get used to that. aspect on the professional level? Yeah, so it's it's interesting. Um, high. school golf is team. You have five guys, four scores count. So, then when you go. to college, same thing. Five guys, four. go four scores count. And um, so I've.

I've been at every level I've played on. the team. And then Ryder Cup and. President's Cup are our two biggest. events um throughout the year. Um, and. so for me when they brought this to my. attention about how people are following. teams and and that's where sports are. going. Um, it was a no-brainer for me. And then it go back to the mental side. For me, it was I get to help people when. I when I'm done playing and somebody's. taken my spot and I'm still the owner. um, captain and overseer of this team. I. get to lay into these these boys trying.

to teach them, try to help them. Right. now, Matthew Wolf's on my team who went. through some struggles. And so I've been. able to put my arm around him and talk. to him and and show him even younger. than than I went through it. He's even. younger. So he's 26 years old. So I get. to try to help him going forward. Um the. team aspect, I know that now I'm playing. for the guys next to me. So I'm going to. not pout as much. I'm going to try to. save as many strokes as I can. It might. be a it might be a one over that day or. overpar that day, but it might be better.

than somebody else. So, I've got to lead. by example and show that I'm not a. quitter and I'm going to fight through. even my struggles. Um, but then at the. same time, you're watching three other. guys and hopefully you're watching them. and you learn from them or or or want to. uh battle with them, especially our team. championship at the end of the year is. when you're where it's match play. Um, so yeah, you don't want to let them. down. And now golf finally it's like. football. The guy next to you, if he's. working 100%, you're working 100%. Your. team has a chance to pull it out or win. that day. Yeah. team RDER Cup's always.

been sweet to watch in the golf aspect. and the idea who's up who's down who who. do we need everybody rallying around it. and I think that was a fascinating thing. whenever Liv launched that like hey. we're going to make a a solo sport a. single sport into a team sport as well. we think it'll be fun then obviously the. music I don't love it the music but I. appreciate what it is it's like a sign. of like hey you can do golf differently. then obviously the shorts I think I that. was wild we went away from shorts by the. way pants only pants and pants now and. golf unless Unless it's over 90°, but.

then it's still subjective. So basically. pants. Okay. So we went to the pants. So. we're still evolving trying to create. this, which is kind of what Debbudge was. saying in the entirety. We're not at the. finished product of Liv. From what you. understand of the inside workings of. Liv, this is going to be we we got. runway for this thing to continue to. grow 100%. So the live PGA negotiations. that have been chat about I don't know. how much you know I'm not going to ask. you to be on the inside of a massive. negotiation international negotiation. with a lot of political play well as. well but do you think Liv would need a.

PJ partnership to continue or is Liv. saying we're going to continue for the. next 10 years regardless of what. happens? I I live is here to stay. Liv's. not going anywhere. Okay. Uh the people. behind Liv is is it's not going. anywhere. Um, you're looking at changing. uh culture. You're looking at changing. uh the game itself. America is a is a. small piece of our world and golf is. global and golf is getting golf is. getting global more and more. So, we're. going to places that the PJ tour is not.

or European tour is not. So, we're. trying to show golf in different areas. Um, it's just like soccer or or football. is now played in the United States. We. never really watched it until now, you. know. Um, now it's shown on ESPN. We're. watching, you know, the Euro Cup and all. these different things. So, it's just. sports is going global now. And so, we're not battling the PJ tour. The PJ. tour um is here to stay as well. Um, our. viewer, we have 30% of our people that. show up to our events are um have never.

been to a professional golf event. So, that means we are growing the game. outside of the PGA Tour or or outside of. our country. Um, and so that's what. we're doing. We're trying to just show. it in a different light and get more. people to watch and play. And that's. kind of what we're doing. And it's it's. global and not just America. Yeah. I uh. I appreciate that the you know, the. mission is a lot different than how we. view it cuz we're just like, where the. hell is this? We have no idea where we. can watch this. We know there's a lot of. superstars over there. We're big fans of.

yours. We're big fans of Brooks. We're. big fans of DJ. We're big fans of Rombo. We're big fans of Comm Wolf. Oklahoma. State kid. Yeah. Okay. Big fan of him. Like there's a lot of guys we're big. fans of, but we can't find it. For you. guys, the mission isn't just like, hey, we need everybody in America watching. this right now. Right now, it's we're. trying to grow the game globally. We're. trying to captivate audiences and uh. maybe markets that haven't been touched. before. And then inevitably, America's. going to come is the assumption. That's. the hope. That's the dream. Um we don't. it you want it to. Do you need it to?

Not right now you don't, but you but you. want it to happen. Yeah, 100%. Um F1's. what got three didn't have races before. Now it's got three races in the United. States. Um, we have a few events in the. United States. We're coming here. Um, August, yeah, August 15th through the. 17th. And by the way, I'll give you a. pro. Y'all want to play in the ProAm? I've I haven't asked anybody, but I'll. make y'all play in the ProAm if y'all. want to play in it. Hey, I think I've. quit the game, but some of the boys. here. Yeah, you got new swing now. You're you're going to be chipping and. putting. You're You said my swing is.

ass. That's why I said chip and putt. Okay. All right. Yeah, cuz we need to. get to the green. Okay. August 15th. through the 17th, you guys are going to. come to uh Cadam Hills Golf Club, which. is a beautiful place. I assume every. course you go to is beautiful. That's. why golf is so awesome. Such beautiful. views, such beautiful scenes, such a. beautiful sport. Uh which was why my. goal was to get enough money to be able. to go to a place I wanted a gated. neighborhood on water, golf cartable to. three different golf courses, and that. was just going to be my that was it. That was that was going to be my.

retirement. That was going to be my. entire life. Is there a place like that. that exists? You tell me. the villages, old people. That's where I'm trying to. head to. That's That was the goal. That. is literally Yeah, that's where. Florida somewhere. This exists. somewhere. Puerto Rico. Puerto Rico has. a place. Uh I was there this It is. basically what I've been looking for, but I quit the game. So now I don't. know. Now I don't know what the future. is. And with your motivational tactics. you just tried to give me here, it. wasn't the right play. You telling me it.

was ass was not going to challenge me to. get better. It actually. It was the universe telling me I need to. [ __ ] quit sports freely. I agree. So me. and Connor will definitely come to the. prom. Foxy needs to be in that though. No, no one wants to watch me play in. that. AJ needs to be in there. AJ's a. player, dude. This guy an actual player. Go ahead, AJ. Yeah, Bubba. I a question. I've always had for professional. golfers. Does it help to almost be dumb. out there or naive to everything going. on around you? I feel like that's why, you know, the weekend warrior golfer. drinks 10 12 beers, gets catch a little.

buzz, and he starts playing his best. golf. Like I feel like sometimes it's. very easy for people to overanalyze. every single aspect of their golf shot. Is that something that professionals. struggle with? 100%. I I think that the. the greats of the game know how to block. everything out and focus or or refocus. if they get off for the first couple. holes. Um, that's one of my struggles is. is trying to get away from all the stuff. behind the the ropes. Um, I've been able. to do it a few times, but when you get. in the zone, um, you don't even realize.

what people are saying, what people are. wearing, or what people are doing. Um, but most of the time I fail because I've. only won 12 times on the PJ tour. But. lost 300. 12. That's a dozen, brother. Yeah. Yeah. But I've lost what, 300, 400. times. So, um, mentally I was going to. do the math there. Percentage on. Hey, that's good. But mentally though, like. Tiger Woods, um Cory Paven was my idol. when it comes to mental stuff. Um he's. an old player. I don't know if you know. who that is. I know the history of the. sport. Exactly. And then um and then now.

you got Scotty Sheffler. Scotty. Sheffller looks like he's just he's not. even paying attention. He's barely. talking to Teddy when he's out there. So. So you are trying to lock in. You're. trying to cuz you're it's it's like you. said, it's punters. It's pitchers. You're trying to stay in your moment and. and try to pull off that that that kick. that that that throw. I mean, you're. trying to hit that swing. You're trying. to get in the slot, you know. Yeah. Come. out of the pocket. trying to get in that. Damn, you got. that was good, man. Thank you. You're. looking better,

Bubba. I already quit the game. I don't. need to hear your [ __ ] Go ahead, Connor. Also, quit the game. Yeah, I did. quit the game. No, no point to play. But, uh, speaking of like kind of. getting out of that mental rut, uh, as a. two-time Masters champion, when you see. Rory kind of get it done this year at. Augusta, obviously we all saw the. massive, you know, weight off his. shoulders, the emotion after he finishes. that Grand Slam at watching it as. someone who's been through that struggle. of a 4-day bender in Augusta trying to.

win that green jacket. How did you feel? And is there like a community of Green. Jackets who kind of were pumped and. excited for Rory and welcomed him in to. the clubhouse and everything like that? And could you relate to him as he did? Cuz I remember when you won your green. jacket. It was a very emotional uh scene. as well. 100%. Uh when I won mine, I. just adopted my son, my first child, u. two weeks before. And then when I won, I. was thinking about me becoming a dad and. my dad being passed away in 2010. And so. just a lot of emotions of battling to.

get to where I was. Um and with Rory, yeah, it's a it's a different kind of. battle. I mean, he was up there. I mean, he was the cream of the crop. He's still. the cream of the crop, but he was up. there. Had a chance to win the Masters a. few times. Yeah. I sent him a text right. away. Told him how um how awesome it was. to see. Very good player, very good, talented player. Um and he said, "I. can't wait to have a locker next to. yours and I can't wait for Tuesday night. dinner." Um that was his respond. How. much do you guys judge how shitty the. dinner's going to be by who the winner. is? And is that already happening? You.

know. Oh, that's been h Well, for me it. happens all the time. I try to eat. before. Oh, so you're not worried about. their dinner? Yeah. I care what they Oh, this one was good this past year. Scotty's Scotty has the sliders. So, it's got an appetizer. So, he has the. sliders and this year he put the French. fries on top of the sliders. Oh, Pittsburgh. Oh, yeah. So, I I was I was. eating that all up. Okay. So, you're in. a lot of wine, too, right? In kind of. the the Augusta thing. Yeah. There's. some guys Yeah. that they they provide. it. Um, some guys drink it, some guys. don't. Um, and then some guys because it. because the past champion has to he has.

to pay for everything. So, guys are. getting bottles of wine and getting him. to sign it and so they can take it to. their trophy case and so it's just more. money on the bill just there's a there's. I don't know I don't know the place. There's a wine thing down in the. basement down Yeah. There's down. underground. They have a lot of secret. rooms around that place. Is that right? Yeah. You didn't hear that from me. though. No, of course not. And I've. never been there either. Um there's like. some very expensive [ __ ] downstairs. Oh. yeah, they got some they got some heavy. duty stuff down there. I'm not know they.

got some presidential stuff down there, I think. Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah, they got. some heavy from what I've been told. You. ever been there? How about the the. junior or the amateur crow's nest? Yeah. Yeah. Crazy. It's right above like. Champions Locker is. So it's right above. Champions Locker. Yeah. Yeah. So you. would go through there and then you. would just go up there and then you'd. walk down around. Yeah. There's four. It's I think there's four or five beds. up there, but then there's like no like. it's like um it's like a dorm room. It's. like a dorm room. There's no doors. Like. you're just a lot of research. Just. random. Yeah. I just heard about this.

Well, that Bennett kid when Bennett when. the Bennett kid was in it a few years. ago. We Yeah, that's how we learned. about There's a card game up there, too. What's the card there? They have like a. table set up for a card. I wasn't good. as an amateur. I never got to stay up. there. Have you ever gone up there? I've. been up there, but I've never like. stayed up there. I think a Manning uh. the one that played for New York. destroyed a toilet up there. Okay. That. was sad. So they um this year I do know. this year the amateurs got out of there. on Tuesday. Um they stayed like Monday. night, Tuesday night and then they got. out like they then they go stay. somewhere else bets. Yeah. It's not it's.

not comfortable. And then you want to go. stay with your family. It's your first. masters as an amateur and all these. things. So you want to go stay with your. family and friends. I do think Liv um. talking about staying in the week before. leadup brought a lot of light to what. life was like in a PJ tour before Liv. that I don't think any of us knew about. Nope. about how much you can lose money. basically if you even if you're a big. star and then I think was it Jordan's. dad did some rating bonus thing because. they're like not making a cut losing a. bunch of money but showcasing your.

downfall basically every Thursday and. Friday so that the ratings would go up. so the PJ tour would be making money it. was like a one-way contract basically. move the needle bonus yeah there that. was basically what it was sure like that. is essentially yeah and if you were. featured and how much and you get a. bonus at the end of the season and. everything like that social clips of of. shots. Like if it was you and they went. and it had a bunch of impressions or. views or whatever that speed was like a. statistician or something like that. Top. 10 got paid that, you know. Yeah. Yeah. We had no idea that PJ was like a.

one-way road, though. Like I I I my last. year on the PJ I was top 10. I got a I. got a little bonus. Hey Bubba, must. watch. That's cuz this pink driver would. be out there. We knew that the boy was. going to be sending some big time big. shots. But I didn't know that was what. the PJ tour was for so long. Obviously, everybody's lucky to be a professional. golfer and they feel that, but we had no. idea like big stars potentially losing. thousands, tens of thousands of dollars. whenever they're not making a cut. We. just assumed that it was a part of a. contract in that entire thing. So, I. think that was good whenever Liv came. out and I think that PJ tours changed.

because of that. I didn't know that was. your guys' life in the PGA tour. Yeah. So, you don't you don't you have to. prove to earn, right? Like you to make. your money. And so, I know of a player. now, a Caddy U Paul Tauri. I probably. should have called him out, but he. played on the PJ tour. He went to. University of Florida, got his PJ tour. card, lo missed every cut. 17 cuts in a. row he missed. So, he never made a. dollar that year. So, think about if. you're if you're at, let's just make up. a number back then, $1,500 a week to.

your caddy um back then. And then your. hotel, I mean, you know, your flights, your food, if you have a trainer, if you. have a coach, I mean, you're you're back. then you're probably five, five, six, anywhere from 5 to $10,000 down. So 17. weeks of $10,000 down. I mean, you're in. debt. You're like, congrats. You're a. professional golfer. You've lost. $200,000 on a season. Yeah, that was. crazy to learn about. I I think that is. something that live kind of changed golf. for the future uh for the professional.

golf. the elevated events that started. taking place with the more prize pools. were good. Do you feel is there a sense. of pride by you live guys that that has. happened? Well, I mean for me you he was. asking about the team earlier. For me, I. wanted to I wanted to do something. different. I wanted to be an. entrepreneur and for me to have a. franchise. It's a golf franchise. I. mean, it's a dream come true to be able. to be in the sport like that and own a. franchise. Um, so yeah, I mean, I take. pride in being able to to think outside. the box and do something different. And.

if it does help the PJ tour players, great. Nobody's trying to hurt the PJ. tour players. Nobody's trying to hurt. professional golf. We're we're trying to. help professional golf and grow it. around the world. And so, yeah, it's. it's it's definitely better than it was. for the PJ tour players. Um, but it's. still topheavy. I mean, the guys that. are, you know, now there's only what 70. or 75 guys keep their tour card instead. of 125. So, there's things that they've. changed positive and negative on all. fronts. And same thing with Liv. We've. changed things positive and negative. We're trying to figure it all out. Uh Q.

school still happen or no? And what does. Liv have that's like that? Cuz I know. there is a we have we have guys fall. off. There's four or five four I think. now six guys fall off our our our. league. And so if you don't finish in. the top 48, you fall off our league. There's a qualifier as of right now. Um. where one spot gets on to live. Um and. PJ Tour has a qualifier. They So like. let's say for instance, okay, I hit this. golf sim up here. Okay, so you're back. into golf. This is a hypothetical. For.

instance, this is a hypothetical bubble. But let's say I figure out that slot. You know, I hit that shallow. far from the deep end. Chipping and. putting right down here. I can win a. tournament and be in the live league. 100%. Do you guys test for weed. for you? No. Okay. Okay. Maybe we do. have a path. Maybe we do have a path to. professional golf in this entire thing. I think like the US Open, right? There's. a qualifier for it. I always like that.

Like cuz I watched that um break make it. break it. Uh it was on Golf Channel. Big. break. Big break. I used to watch that. I love that. Tony Feno. Yeah. Was on the. big break. Really? You break some glass. I mean the the controlling. I love that. But I also love the fact that like you. got an opportunity not to go do it, but. then people would lose their cards and. then they get back in there. Feels like. a grind. Let's talk about the schedule. at the PJ and what your life was like. Now Liv, obviously Dustin Johnson has. spoke about it. Hey, it's less work,

more money. Like that is clearly a. business model for Dustin Johnson and. part of his decision-m. You guys are on. the road Tuesday through hopefully like. Sunday. How does that work? Yeah, there's no more cut. So we're we're. there for the whole week. Um but I try. to go in on Monday to get practice. because nobody's out there. Um even if. I'm traveling overseas, I try to get in. there a little bit early. Um, now that. my my kids are older, so now my kids. come out and go to the tournaments with. me. They're allowed on the range with. me. They're um they're allowed to do. whatever. I'm the owner of the team, so.

they're allowed to ride with me wherever. I want to go. I'm Jerry Jones. Yeah, exactly. I mean, hey, our team sucks, but we're trying. Um, we got a great. logo. Yeah, exactly. The logo is the key. battle. Yeah. And so, you know, I I love. it. We're We're We have time off. PJ. Tour quit having time off. we started. going year round and so um being able to. spend time with my kids and watch them. play sports is a dream come true. Um and. they love watching me play golf. My. son's getting old enough now he can walk. all 18 holes and follow me and so it's a.

blast out there like going to Spain and. London. Uh we're going to stop over in. Rome, let him see Rome for a couple days. and um Wow. I love it. But now going. back to the PJ tour schedule, there was. 40 events. Uh, for me, you pick you pick. your top 20 courses you believe fit your. game and so then you can do that. But. now on live, it's tougher because you. got 14 weeks, you have to play in all. 14. No matter if all courses suck for. you or all courses are good for you, you. have to change your game and try to. figure out your game and how you can.

play and attack each course. Even though. it might not be the courses you want to. play at. And on the PJ tour, out of 40, you can find some that you can uh play. well and perform at so you can keep your. card. Okay. Uh, you said you're walking. your oldest uh are walking a What. happened to hovercraft? What happened to. the hover thing? Insurance. Oh, yeah. That's dangerous. That thing's. dangerous, man. Hard to stop. Uh, no. It. stops quick. That's the problem. No seat. belts. Yeah. 9 in of air. So, when you. let off the gas, that thing just drops.

and it just digs in the ground. It's a. paper weight. If you're over water, you. better not let go. You're going off. You. better You better keep holding that gas. How? So, the golf boys. Is that what it. was? I think it was Golf Boys. Yeah. What a time. I'm thinking about going. solo. I've been thinking about this. I. still have my overalls. You look great. in them. Yeah. Do you still have the. hovercraft? Um I can I can probably pull. it out of the garage. You got any bars. because didn't you guys sing and rap and. this? Oh yeah. Oh yeah. You've been. writing songs? I've always got ideas in. my head. Remember I told you I got. mental issues. I got there's always. things. That was a great moment. Golf.

has been fantastic. You've been one of. the trailblazers of it. Tai has a. question for you. Speaking of courses. that kind of fit your style, going back. to Augusta, do you feel like anytime you. show up there, are you in the mindset. like, "Hey, I have a chance to win this. week." Like I always look at a guy like. Boom Boom Couples who, you know, no. matter how old he gets, come Saturday, he made the cut. He's one under now. He's getting older, so he might, you. know, shoot 78, 80 on Saturday and. Sunday. But when you go back to Augusta, no matter how you're playing, do you.

always feel like, hey, if I if I have it. going, you know, early here, like I have. a shot to win another green jacket. 100%. And Freddy is my example. Every. you'll see Freddy's name somewhere on. that leaderboard the first couple days. And maybe he wakes up too early and he. can't tee off at 2:00 the next day cuz. that's his nap time, but he, you know, he he's always up there, right? And so I. always believe there's not much rough. there, so I believe I can hit crazy. shots and get out of the trees. This. year is the first time ever I led the. field in putting and it happened to be. at the Masters this year. Um I've been.

working hard on my putting and and. changing things, but um I can remember. four shots that cost me anywhere from. six to eight shots and those would you. know I'd be I'd be about second place, third place somewhere in there and. challenging for the win. Man, that's. golf, isn't it? I'm happy to hear you go. through this as well. Crazy. That's golf. right there. If I didn't hit it, that. probably Yeah. And that changes because. that is golf. But it's it's like we. talked about Rom. If that ball hits soft. or or a little bit more to the the right. on 17, he might tap in birdie and now.

it's a whole different animal, right? But it's it bounced into the water. And. so it's the same thing. I hit a ball in. the water on 16. I hit a ball in the. water on 13 on my drive. Um so those are. the two that I know of. But there's four. swings that I went back and looked at. that that cost me a chance for a top. three are battling for for a win. See, what you just said is why me and Connor. quit the sport. Yeah, exactly. No, come. back, boys. I mean, there there's a. chance that I can get back in a league. I I didn't know there was a chance I. could get into a a professional golfer, you know. I've been professional. wrestler,

uh, professional soccer player, baseball, professional football player, professional baseball player. WWE. Yeah. Right. It's going global now. Oh, yeah. It always has, man. Okay. But think. about if if the NFL network only. showed 10 NFL teams, right? Like we're. we're talking about a global sport. So. PJ tour is is America and Liv is trying. to go worldwide. I mean every sport now. is going worldwide because there's other. opportunities out there. Football's. going in Germany now. Mexico Germany had. like two million people waiting in the.

queue or a million people waiting. That's what I'm saying. And golf is. people are waiting. The people I saw. that Australia clip, right? Wasn't that. Australia? Adelaide. What's the What's. the best stop you've been on that's kind. of surprised you on the Adelaide is get. is bigger and bigger. I mean we're we're. at a 50,000 people a day. I mean, and. you're just we're talking about like. we're talking about the ropes. Some of. the ropes are on the fairway. I'm like, how am I gonna hit this fairway? I'm. gonna hit these people. Um, but they. just I think Australians are down with. it. They love they love their sport down. there and all they want to do is shies. I just want to win so I can do a Shuy. I.

don't want to do a Shuy, but I just want. to win. Yeah. For the people to do a. Shuy. Yeah. It's very nice of you. You're one of the guys. I just got shown. a video that I did not know existed. Um, you had a jetpack as well. We're talking. about the hover. You had a jetpack. It. wasn't legal in the United States, just. for the record. So international is I. think we they tested it in New Zealand. Is that you? That's not you. Tom Cruz. I. do my own stunts, guys. I eat popcorn. I. literally eat. So does Tom Cruz. Yeah. So does TZ. So does Tom Cruz, Bubba,

there was no butter on that popcorn. You. can tell that was fake. What? Don't need. butter. You're a butter guy. I can tell. you. I didn't get butter this morning, but I am a butter guy. He He was having. popcorn at 7:30 this morning in honor of. Tom Crick. Amen. Okay. So, I have a. little bit of respect. I didn't know you. were in a jetpack. These exist. Did you. feel safe in the United States? It's. illegal in the United States. Let me. make sure I say that again. It's. illegal. Did you feel safe in that? Did. you fly in that? No. I feel I'm scared. of everything. I play golf for a living. I walk for a living. That seems pretty.

easy getting in and out of that thing. for every shot you. It's not about the golf. It's more about. the look, right? It's style. You're. right. You got I tell you what, you have. a helmet on. Take that helmet off. Pull. the glove. A whole like amusement park. Be hard to land in the trees where we're. going to be. At the same time, you want. to do it, right? Definitely. I've been. looking for a jetack for years. You'll. play golf again if that was the case. You know what? Maybe if I could throw if. I could throw the ball, maybe that is.

what I would do. That thing ain't going. to be able to land where I am. I just. talked about the trees. That [ __ ] ain't. going to be That's a fairway golfer. Good for you. Yeah, but you take a drop. I mean, you you fly that thing over the. green. I would hit a little club. Yep. Out of the sky, let that thing drop down. like one of those uh you know, whenever. they do the ball drop on the green at. those uh golf or whatever. Yeah, that's. what I would be like. Bubba, you're an. innovator, brother. The brain always. going. I love that you're running your. own business. Good for golf. Let's head. over to. hammer.com. Ton Digs has a question for.

you. Yeah, Bubba. There's been a uh lot. of talk about uh on our show about the. difference between regular season and. playoff and the atmosphere for that. And. then there was a lot of talk at Quail. Hollow kind of that it's a regular. season PGA stop, you know, and a lot of. people were upset that a regular season. PGA stop was was a major course. What is. the main difference between a regular. season event versus a major as far as. the course go and the atmosphere goes? And then the uh upcoming our hometown, we got Oakmont coming up. Uh, how's the.

setup for Oakmont? Well, I I first of. all, they're going to change the course. a little bit. They're going to set it up. tougher. Um, they added TE's. I mean, there was a bunch of holes over 500. yards, which I thought was silly. Number. nine was one of the toughest holes they. play on the regular season, and then to. add, I think 40 or 50 yards u was crazy. Uh, the rough is up, the greens are. firmer, tougher pin placements. So, they're going to trick it up as much as. they can. But then the atmosphere, the.

um knowing what it is going into it, you're trying to win a major for the. first time, second time, third time, whatever it is. Um the media hype behind. it is is really where it just starts. going in your head and your energy level. and you start getting pumped up. But. yeah, they definitely trick the course. up as much as they can. I mean, is that. how you guys describe it? Trick it up. They trick it up. Yeah. I mean, it's. putting these trick pins in this [ __ ]. but it's I mean, it's the only sport. We. keep changing the the field, right? There's no other sport. You're not. you're not changing three-point line is.

the only thing we've changed in what 50. years of basketball. So, um you know, Pebble Beach plays at the same place, but Pebble Beach when it's a a US Open, nobody says, "Ah, it's just a regular. It's Pebble Beach." I mean, it's hard as. can be when they set it up. And I think. that's the same thing they did with uh. with Charlotte. Oakmont is Oakmont is. crazy. Even on a regular day, Oakmont. with the rough up. I finished fifth. there in ' 07 um when Anel Cabrera won.

and um the rough was I mean the rough. felt like it was a foot deep. There was. nothing Pittsburgh brother there was. nothing you could do and now there's no. trees there like they've changed the. trees. You can see the whole golf course. now. Um but they're still going to have. the high rough uh without without rain. it's going to be firm and fast like Lynx. golf but then with high rough. Um so. yeah, they're going to like I said. they're going to we call it tricking it. up. They're going to put the pins in. crazy places where you're going to have. to missing the green sometimes is better. than hitting the green because of the. the chip's going to be easier than a. long putt. We knew these majors were.

tricking, didn't we? We knew they were. out there tricking it up. Uh Bubba, you. said you've been working on your putting. and then there's a uh potential proam. here at Chattam Hills Golf Club. August. 15th through the 17th live golf event. Uh welcome to Indian Anna. By the way, I. don't know where Chadam Hills is that in. Indianapolis. I have no idea. I think I. think the Carbon. Yeah. Up north. Nice. area. It's one of It's for us. It's It's. here. It's in Indiana. Indian. Indianapolis. Yeah. Indianapolis. It's.

in Indianapolis. It's close enough. It's. north. It's north of Indianapolis in uh. Westfield. Okay. West. Beautiful. Just. for the record, there will. be goats on the driving range for you. We always bring goats like Chicago and. now we're here. So, we're going to bring. some goats in. So, we have a petting zoo. on the golf course. Oh, man. Little. miniature goats or fullsize uh goats? I. think they're all small, right? But no, there is miniature. We had miniature in. Chicago. You guys should sacrifice. Okay, maybe I can turn the team around. Maybe turn the team around. You want to. buy some goat meat?

Slit one throat for a vape. Drink some. of the lamp. In Adelaide, we had on the sixth hole we. had like, you know, there's a party. hole. And then on the sixth hole this. year was like the the family the kids. party hole. And we had, I think we had. 12 goats. So there was like a petting. zoo of goats. And so that was their. party hall. The kids Wow. So you guys. are trying to make it. Yeah. So we met. the range goats. We brought it out. ourselves and we How do you feel about. the music? How do you feel about the. music? I think I live. You You've been.

to some events. Live I think it's okay. On TV it doesn't it it doesn't mesh well. on TV. If there's a way to get TV, no. music, but live it's fine. You've been. to a few of them. For sure. I mean, and. if the environment I feel like it's kind. of more upbeat, you know, PJ still Yeah. you're around the golf, you still respect, you know, they're. teeing off and doing putting and [ __ ]. but like it's golf a lot. They got. little stations set up in different. places for different vibes, different. setups, concessions or whatnot. But, uh, I I like I enjoy it. I'm a guy that's.

new, newer to golf. I got into golf like. two, three years ago. So, it was great. for me to just have another option. Uh, obviously I want to see the best players. playing against each other every week. Um, but it's definitely a different. version of golf and it's kind of how I. play golf. I'm out with the boys, we got. speakers, we're drinking, we're doing. our thing. Yeah, definitely a different. vibe for sure. Definitely. I I can't. golf without music personally. Yeah. Can't. But you hate music. Yeah. I just. don't want to hear I love DJ Khaled. Yeah. I don't need him screaming weed. the best as somebody who's trying to,

you know, make a a tournament winning. It doesn't translate to TV. That's the. issue. It's hard for me to be like, "Oh, this. is serious." When uh it's my playlist. being played while Rombo Bombo's about. to throw his club into the dam. You. know, it's just uh I think there's a. couple things that golf has gotten. right. Like, hey, golf has gotten right, but I do like that they're exploring the. space and we're trying to kind of make. it bigger. And uh what' you think about. TGO? Did you watch I thought it I.

thought it was good. I I'm interested to. see how season 2 will go because they. added the Motor City machine guns. That's right. But not till 27. Oh, so. there's going to be two more years. They. got to get the team together around for. that. It might not even pop up. Um, so. well that's what we were saying. actually. I I was I was pumped that he. got another season whenever I heard. Motor City Machine Guns are going to get. a team. That's the name. Yeah. Tenatively. Yeah. Yeah. I thought it was. like the Motor City hot dogs or.

something dumb like that. No, no, you're. talking about the Weenie mobile race. It's got a year. It might change. Who. knows? Yeah. Yeah. But I didn't know it. was 2027 cuz I heard 2020 next season is. what I thought. I'm like congrats to. TGL. We got another year is what I. thought. You're saying they're saying we. got at least two more years of this, which I think is good. I enjoyed it. I. think it had a lot of I think it had a. lot of opportunity. Is that how you're. feeling? But yeah, I think that um it. had great opportunities. It had a it had. a great concept, I think. Um but how are. we going to do it if it's the same in. the same building in the same shots? And.

I heard rumor they're trying to build. one somewhere else right now. But if. it's in the same area, same shots, how. are we going to change it up? And like. I'm a part of it. How are we going to. change it up? But um golf we will say we. do I would go um you might have to get. some celebrities in there. See some. shanks. I mean you got to you got to try. to get something in there. Golfers that. are um not as good. You want some shanks. in there. You want to I mean Tiger. shanked one I think. Right. Got bladed. one early. Not Philly Ho brother. Best TGL player. of all time. Won a championship. Hang.

his tarp. Yeah he did. They do need to. have more than one course though. You're. right. It's the It's the same shot like. so viewing it week after week. It's like. I've seen them do this shot. What do you. want to do? Put windmills in front of. the thing? Sure. They better. Or or. looks above like actually that would be. a good idea. Randomize. Yeah. Make it. like a putt putt operation. Like can you. even get to the screen to get to the. course? And I was worried I was really. worried about technology. How is. technology going to you know work. instead of have glitches. But I think it. worked pretty well. Our sim is the.

worst. The worst. It's not even a sim. It's just a screen. It's just I just hit. into a blank screen of blank. Don't even. turn the computer on cuz I know it's not. going to work. Is that how yours is? No, mine's good at the house. That's cuz you. got that live money. Now, let's talk. let's talk a little bit about uh August. 15th through 17th as Live Golf makes its. debut in Indianapolis, Indiana. I think. y'all should go live out there. Just do. this show live out there. Bubba, you're. a businessman as am I. There's a chance. Okay. There's the conversations are. open. We are We are open for We're. starting the conversation today. Okay.

Crown Prince, God bless him. We also. like to uh talk to him. just now like. live golf and music. Muc is a. great, you know, not bad actually. Yeah. Morgan Wallen's new album just runs. right through. 37 of them. 37 songs. Actually, actually 35. I remember. correctly. Somebody yesterday said 35. I. watched the show, guys. Yeah, I think. it's actually 36 cuz I thought there was. an intro. There is not an intro. There's. just an interlude. So, it's 36 songs.

All of them are currently on the. whatever the top 50, top 100, whatever. it is. Good for him. Absolute wagon. Um, shouldn't he just I don't know, just as. a business person, we could save some of. these, can't we, for another album? Yeah, maybe three albums. Yeah, people. are putting out like eight song albums. He probably tour this for the next 20. years, though. I agree. And he probably. will. But if he was to put out a 20 song. album, people would be like, "Holy [ __ ]. this guy's got 20 songs. Old buddy just. put out seven songs last week and. thought it was a big deal." And then he.

could drop a 17 song album on the back. end of that. I just think because of how. he's he sings and how he I think he just. is going to pump out maybe a thousand. Is he going to have a thousand bangers? Is that what the goal is? Well, I mean I. guess cuz he's young. Yeah. And just. like golf, you can do that. Yeah. He's. on his way. You can do that long. He's. going to have a thousand bangers. Well, there's going to be demand to, you know, I mean, people will listen to this. album, but then in like two years it's. going to be like, "But what if his next. album only has like nine, but that would.

be a normal ass album." Exactly. You're. going to be like, "Well, where are the. other ones?" Hey, brother, we need. you're missing 30 songs here. But he. There's a chance he has a thou think. Think about the song cataloges that. people are selling right now. People are. getting like 200 250 million for their. cataloges. 300 million for the. cataloges. If he has 500 songs that are. all bangers, Yeah. that's He's going to. be really congrats, dude. Congratulations. keep pumping out 3. I. mean, just Yeah, 37 hits. I don't know. how he does it. Now, speaking of hits, I. very rarely hit the green, but if I get.

to the green, I can't putt for [ __ ] We. put this in here to try to tempt me into. becoming a better putter. Okay, it's. right here. Walk across it every single. day. Get some putts up. To your point, I. hate it. I don't do it because there's. seven balls out there. I'll miss every. single one. You should not though, Bubba. If you. make five, got a lefty putter. That's. fair. Yeah. Is five a good number? You. think it's got to be a ping? Do you have. a ping? We don't have a ping. Lifetime.

deal with ping, man. I got to use a. ping. You got to deal with ping. What is. the lifetime? Make sure you say. lifetime. Lifetime. That's awesome. Love. that. All right. How about this? Will. you be able to put with the unoffable? Do we have I just putt with a wedge? I. bought this. What is that? The alien. wedge. I was watching the golf fix. Thank you very much. Had pool tubes. It. was uh underneath my pool noodles. underneath my arms. It was 2:15 a.m. and. they put the undouffable on the screen. I said, "Shit, I douff all the time. I'mma buy that." Guess what you can do. with this? Three easy payments. You can.

Well, yes. And also, you can duff, Bubba. I have I have accomplished the. impossible mission. Did you get your. money back? No. You're about to say. Mission Impossible. Sorry, man. Yeah. That's why you need to stop with cuz he. didn't eat the popcorn. He did. Hey. No, we didn't. Let's watch it again. Put it. chew it up. Hold on. So, you literally. can't putt without a Do we have a. [ __ ] I don't think we have a ping. Sworn we have a lefty putter, though. We. do have a lefty putter. A lifetime deal. Boom.

Right ping on Yeah. Just bleep it out. Okay. Boom. Five. You think? Five. I don't know. You. want to roll one? Is it these golf balls. right here? Yeah, they're painting golf. balls. Nice shoes. They're all about the. money. Those are sick. Those are sweet. shoes. Yeah. Damn. Do you want to. calibrate one first or do you want this. to counter? Let me see. Count it. Smooth butter, man. All right. Okay. Smart. Let's see. He said, "Yeah,

we Okay. You got to make. You want me to keep going or stop now?". Okay. Tone Digs and Hammer Downtown just. said, "Do you gamble with Phil?" Do I? Yeah. I don't gamble. That's smart. I. like that. I like that. I like that a. lot. I like that play a lot. Stop. gambling, too. I mean, this is easy. Did. he? This is easy. Okay. How about this. thing? Hey, Jake. Why? No, I'm. I'm over here. Okay. Oh, it's the.

undouffable. Please have a little. respect for it. It's righty. He said I'm. going to give it to Duff. Okay. So, there's five balls there. What is a good. number here for you to make? Three with. this. What? Chipping. He's chipping. Oh. Okay. So, two. You got All right. You got to go two out of these next four. here. You go two out of Hold on, Bubba. Hold on. Jeez. In a groove. Darius is. going to be at the ProAm, I assume. At. Chatam Hills. Absolutely. AJ will also. do the Cadam Hills Golf Club ProAm,

right, AJ? I'll do it. Yeah. We're. making decisions for live right now. Yep. Oh. Oh, no. Uh oh. I was going to say if. you make two out of this final four, I'll play in the thing, but y great. news. All right. You. Nope. Well, we're not growing the game. Thank god I don't have to play in that. thing. I quit the game. I quit the. sport. I was going to have to actually. This tougher wedge sucks. No, it's not a.

wedge. Unuffable. It's undouffable, too. Have a little respect. I bought that off. the golf channel. Okay. They wouldn't. put that on the golf channel if it. wasn't the real deal. Yeah. I'm happy to. see you suck with it, too. I I suck with. it. You suck with it. Whack we whack the wood. Exactly. Defense. All about defense. All right, Bubba. Thank you for coming out here. You're going to a Fever game tonight? I. hope so. Is that tonight? Yeah, it is. tonight. Yeah. She's electrifying. Oh, yeah. It's unbelievable. She step So, I.

I believe she's My wife played in the. WNBA. She played four years pro. basketball, but it's Steph Curry. She's. Steph Curry. She's doing things. She's. running. She's hitting shots. She's. hitting half court shot or just inside. half court shots at ease. I have to like. heave it to get it that far. Yeah. And. her teammates are awesome, too. This. year the team is like team is Yeah. Leah. Boston obviously great. Kelsey Mitchell, Dana Bonner. Yeah. Uh she just became a. record holder. Yeah. Third all time. leading scorer. Yeah. They got a good. team. New coach Stephanie White I. believe is her name. She's from Indiana. From Connecticut. Yeah. for.

Connecticut's son, former head coach. Yeah. Now she's from Indiana. She's back. here coaching the team. It's like uh. it's like I think the it's worth and. that place will be packed out. Yeah. Place every place that she goes to. packed out. She's like the Beatles. She. is literally the Beatles. They're going. to bigger venues so that she can come to. town. Now, congrats to WNBA. I hope you. have a good time tonight cuz you sucked. with the Undeuffable. I am not. committing to anything in August and. that's great news. But Debbut and AJ. will definitely be there. Perfect. Let's. do it. All right. That'd be more fun. with them anyway. [ __ ] off.

Bubba, hold on. Bubba. unuffable. Oh, here it is. Get the slot. You should. just blast one. There it is. No, it. would be kind of so far right. You. should You should just [ __ ] blast. one. You won't do it. Try to hit this camera that's looking. right at you. Hit that camera. What? my. front foot here. Right.

You show me. Bubba, you're the golfer. That Hey, that swing you just did would. be so far. Yeah. You want to miss left. You don't want to miss right. You're. here. You're here with it. You got to. come who? You're You're here with it. You got to come across your body. Got to. get them hips to move, man. They look. tight. I just [ __ ] them. This is terrible. Yeah. Aim aim aim for. the net. No, you got it. Just see it. Yeah. Oh, hit it hard. Just right into.

the crow's nest. Where you going with. it? Yeah, crow's nest. Try to go over. that camera. All right, I'm zoomed out. The camera. Oh, that's easy. Yeah, just blast it. [ __ ] send this thing. Oh my gosh. Boom. That was a heck of a. shot. Good. Good contact. Dad did not.

No, you don't know me. You don't know. me. That was the undeuffable. Yeah. And. it worked. It's tight line, though. I. don't see a hole either. Maybe I'm back. Uhoh. Uhoh. Guess who's back? When's the. qualifier for you guys league? When's. the qualifier for you guys? It's in. December. All right. I got time. Okay. Eternal football season. That's going to. be tough. And what day of the week? Monday. Okay. Before Monday Night. Football in December, playoff football, I qualify for a golf league. Let's go,

Foxy. Let's go. Uh, is it still raining. outside? Still raining outside. You're not a golfer if you're worried. about the weather, man. Okay, so we got. two holes out back. Thanks. Can't wait. to see you hit them. Can I ask Bubba on. that? You got a golf course across the. street, too. Yeah. Who's got a question? Sorry. Foxy does. I'm sorry. Yeah, this. is actually a selfish question. On that. note, Bubba, let's say you're 75 yards. out. All right. Pretty straight shot. Pretty simple, straightforward. How many. balls is it going to take you to make. one shot? Because I've been doing this. for about eight months back there and I. can't make a single one. Longer than.

that. Well, I mean it there's so many. factors. It was going to take it's going. to take me What? How long have you been. trying to do it? Eight months. Let's. see. I'm going to say four for me then. Four months. Yeah. I thought one. day am I known for my balls. How many. hole ones do you have? You're known for. being a dog. Six. Six hole in ones. Eight competition or in practice? Um, total a couple in competition, but total. is six. First one is how old? Uh, it was. 2010. When did you start playing? When I. was six. Jesus. I got no shot. No. He's.

got six since he's six years old. Bruce. Bruce had one his first year of playing. My dad could barely break a hundred and. he had one with a 3-wood from 189. Sliced a 3-wood in there. And he used to. run his mouth to me all the time about. how I got a hole in one. Does it count. on part three courses? Yeah, it counts. anytime you make a hole in one on a sim. On a Yeah, cuz the sim is hard to make. one. You make one on a sim. Fist bump.

Xolf. Congratulations. Had a witness, too. Oh, really? Where was it at? On. video, actually. Uh, here. Noville Xolf. Xolf. Yeah. Yeah, I know about it. Yeah. Pretty solid. Yeah. He's actually an. investor in X. Mama told me it counts. It definitely does. What if you're just. hitting a hundred shots from one T- box. at a hole? Is that more of a chip in or. a hole in one? No. That Well, if it's not a real golf. course, it doesn't count as Well, it is. a real golf course. Thank you. Please. It's outside back here. Thunderdome golf. course. Yeah, it's two holes. There's.

two. Two holes. One T- box. We get tired. after two. We got to Well, and we're not. walking to Here he is. Here he is. Here. he is. That was yesterday. Was it really? Yes. Every day he has one of those. Golf gods. are not blessing little fox. No, not at. all. How many can we get the greens. master out here? Small bucket is about. 50 balls. Those greens. Those greens got. craters in it. Looks like the fake moon. I think the turf needs gr uh sand. I. I'll get I'll get Russ on it. We need to. get those treated. Guy's name's Russ. Green. Hands greens. Celebrity greens.

He's great. He came out here two days. Had the boys on it. We really got We got. two back here. We got two back there, Bubba. That's disgusting. I know. I saw. them when you came in. All right, quick. So, you're going to hit something? Sweet. Do you have your clubs? No, but I. can Yeah, I think I do. Actually, we. just landed. So, yeah, I got him. Okay. Boom. All right, that's where we're. headed. Look for a video here in a. matter of moments of Bubba probably. putting one in here if I had to guess. Uh, quick predictions. Tonight's games, NHL, Panthers, Hurricanes. Uh, Panthers. Yes.

Timberwolves Thunder. Oh my gosh, this. is a good one. I don't want to say it, but I'm going to say it. I think it's. going to be Timberwolves. Yep. Okay, that's and Oklahoma City. Yeah. Oh, it. was Anthony Edwards is he is a beast. He's a dog. He's a real deal. I'm not. saying that Oklahoma City doesn't have a. dog, but he is this guy's on fire. He's. I'm telling you, he's kin to Michael. Jordan somehow. He's awesome to watch. They look alike. And they play. They. jump alike. They They Yeah, he is. And.

he's he's he is an old school player, you know. He talked to J.R. Smith talked. to us. Golfer J.R Smith. He's trying to. went back to college, Jim. Yeah, he's in. college currently. He's a senior. He's a. captain of the team. I think he's trying. to get down to a zero. He said by the. end of the season he'll probably be. scratch golfer or whatever. Try to. qualify for the US Open. He absolutely. loves the game. Yeah. He said for. Anthony Edwards like uh they need to. just let him do mid-range, take the. rack, do whatever the hell he wants as. opposed to over coaching him. He's like. an old school player. I think that's why. all the OGs love Anthony Edwards. And I. think that's why we competitors, athletes love Anthony Edwards, too. It's.

like he's a dog. He can lead that team. Yeah. But that Oklahoma City place. Randle's not too bad either, though. Randle's helped him out. Randle's helped. him out quite a bit. Let's go to the. Knicks fan. Uh Matt Brown. Hey Bruce, how do we feel about Julius Randall. playing for the Minnesota Timberwolves? Uh absolutely love him. He's uh one of. my favorite Knicks players of all time. He came here when no free agents wanted. to go to the New York Knicks and he. basically built us uh into what we are. today. Wish nothing but the best for. him. And I I do think that as a number. two option behind Ann Edwards, uh they. they can take the Thunder to to seven.

games and maybe get it done. Okay, we. got even a prediction from Bruce. I like. that. I like everything about that. Uh, how do you feel about Pacers Knicks? I'm. going Pacers. And the reason why I'm. going Pacers August 15th live event out. here because of because Hallebertton is. is unbelievable. Like it's unorthodox. It doesn't look right, but it's it gets. done. Yes. Yeah. It's unbelievable. He's. flashy. Yeah. Flashy runs. Showman. He's. got merch at wwshop.com right now. But. it reminds me of um Oh gosh. Shawn.

Marion. Remember when he used to shoot. three-pointers? It didn't look right, but he's like, "Yeah, he would make it.". That's about what it looked like. Good. Good shot. That's what it looked like. He made it. Happy right here. Happy. Bubba. That's on you. I can't believe. that happened. That. was a lot, Bubba. More Cat Williams, I. think. All right, Bubba. Uh, hey. knocking those D. Check. Check back. Chest pass. Splash. We leave. Cat shooter or Cat Williams is.

a shooter. Really? Yes. Yes. Guys, you. better watch me come as a golf. When's. that thing December? Did you lower the. goal? No, he's Cat Williams. He He got. him up there. Was he lethal shooter? Is. that Yeah. Isn't he short? Yes. That's. what I was just asking. That's a fair. question. No, it's not. Cat Williams is. a He's a beast. He was with Lethal. You. know who Lethal Shooter is? Oh, Bubba. content creator. He's he would put [ __ ]. it. He would make a uh he he makes uh. like little gummy bears into like the.

top of water bottles. That's how good of. a shooter he is. Really? Yes. Real deal. You should look him up. I'm going look. him up. Lethal shooter. Lethal shooter. He should focus on golf. Oh, I think. he'd probably be able to figure that. out. Sounds like it might be too late. Who's Who do you think is best sport. that turns into golfers naturally? Hockey players, I think, very good. Shooters in basketball normally pretty. good. Baseball. Yeah, baseball. Baseball. Um, pitchers Smoltzy. Yeah, Smoltzy. Yeah, they're always in it at. Tahoe. They always have time off. They.

throw what? Once every two weeks. Yeah, good point. Yeah. Here's Lethal. Shooters. Last one. Toothpick into a. straw. I understand it now. He misses on. purpose, then he makes. Oh, second try. It's always I understand. it now. Impressive. D doesn't. That's. unbelievable. Yeah. Lethal shooter. What? Welcome to the world. Mhm. And. we're going to go do a trick shot out. back where you're going to make it 75. yard shot in the rain, in the wind. You're not a real golfer yet. First. take. Boom. That'd be awesome. Mhm. That. would be so cool, dude. Perfect standing. now. Yeah. AJ, you think first take for.

uh Bubba? Yeah, absolutely. I mean, I. don't know what the conditions are like. there, but I assume he can work it out. It's drizzling. It's a little breezy. It. was gusted when we came in today. It's. Indiana. You need to know that for. August 15th or 17th. It's going to be. windy here. Yep. Always windy here in. Indiana. I was a punter drafted out. here. Oh, you were. Yeah. So, played for. the Colts. Uh, punting a lot of wind. Did not know that when I got here. It. was just Was it indoors? So, we had a. dome uh possibility, but Jim Mercy liked.

to showcase also that he could take the. top off and the window off. So, it. actually became a wind tunnel. So, I was. considered a dome punter by other. punters and kickers, but we potentially. had the worst setup in all of football. for about three quarters of the season. So, I got the dome in December, which. was phenomenal. Great news. But it's. always windy in Indiana cuz how flat it. is. So, it created the Eddie effect. The. wind. Is that what that's called? Yeah. So, at Augusta when it comes down 13 and. goes to 12 and 11 creates an eddy. effect. So, like sometimes you feel it's.

downwind and then seconds later it's. into the wind. So, that's probably what. happened. Eddie effect. Eddie came into. Lucas Oil for [ __ ] every time they. open that side window. Exactly. The. Eddie effect was all about that thing. Is that eight men you're talking about? Yeah. What? How' uh you ever hit all one. down there? No, I made one. I made one. on a practice round on 16, but I've. never made one in the tournament. Made. one in the uh par three tournament. Uh. does that count? Yeah. Well, yeah. It's. in the tournament. There's a trophy and. everything. It counts. Hell yeah. I.

agree. Yeah. My son, it was 67 yards, hole four. My son goes, "Dad, you don't. have that shot." One hopped it and. knocked it in. I said, "Hey, I got it. now." And he goes, "Just a dramatic." Yeah. He's like, he. needs to do that every hole. Exactly. We. need a kid on the back. Dad, this ain't. it. This the worst hole. They're forcing. you to play this course. It's not good. for your play. All right, let's get out. of here. Bubba, we appreciate you. Boys, great work today. AJ, great work. Tone. over there in hammer time. Great work,

boys in the back. I can't wait to go. watch him hit these balls. Please make. one, Bubba. I can't wait to watch this. Yeah, tough greens. Tough greens, buddy. Yeah, they're they're barely green. Tough greens. Green. All right, be a. friend. Tell a friend something nice. might change your life. We're in a sing. together. Team on me. Oh, I didn't know I was part of the. team. You [ __ ] are, buddy. Aren't you. trying to promote team stuff anyways? Team on me. You have anything to say? No. Goats. Goats. Goats. Sacrifice one.

or two. Or two. No. [ __ ] it. 10 of them. Yeah. Whatever gets. the goats on top. We hope that happens. Team on three. One, two, three. Team. Goodbye.