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as the Canadians of Rio punched their. ticket to the Eastern Conference Finals. to take on the Carolina Hurricanes as. they beat the Buffalo Sabres in Buffalo. Now listen, there was certainly a fight. back, okay? This is once 200 game, then. a fight back. Then this thing gets to. overtime and a blip, a little bit of a. kind of becomes the game winner, the. series seeker. New Huff becomes the. second player in NHL history to have. game seven goals to win a series in the. same playoff run in the history of the.

NHL. Malt Real, the buzzsaw, is going to. be on display in the Eastern Conference. Finals against a team that everybody. forgets they're even playing cuz they. haven't lost a damn game in a playoff. Carolina Hurricanes have been chilling, resting up, getting ready for it. They'll take on Montreal. And then. tomorrow night in the West, the Colorado. Avalanche will host the Vegas Golden. Knights. Whenever you think of a game. seven, that is exactly what you think. of. Whenever you think of playoff. hockey, that is exactly what you think. of. And this one is about to be an. absolute wagon. We'll talk to PK Suban. >> Okay.

>> Montreal homer. >> Mhm. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> He's probably real jacked about what. happened. >> Can't wait to catch up with him. He'll. be at 12:35. Also, uh Jack Hughes. JOHN. JACK HUGHES will be here today. 145. obviously Olympic gold medalist, American hero, New Jersey Devil, Jack. Hughes of the Hughes hockey family. Obviously, American legends will join us. at 145. We also obviously have to talk. about the double overtime game of the. Goliath yesterday in the Western. Conference Finals to kick off what the. NBA has been having building for. seemingly years now. This Webby guy. All.

right. Hey, we're learning more and more. about him. This guy hangs with Monks. This guy hangs with Kevin Garnett. This. guy pulls up from the logo in overtime. down three casual. First one he put up. all night. No big deal. Biggest moment. Let me go ahead and splash this thing. I'm taller than you. I can shoot better. than you. And oh yeah, you get me in the. paint, I can go to absolute work. Now, what I think gets underestimated about. this particular alien here, this human, uh, is, you know, he plays chess in the.

city, okay? And when he gives answers, he's one with the universe. He's part of. this new generation that seemingly, you. know, a lot of jersey sharing. Everybody. kind of gets along. I think what people. This guy's a killer. >> This guy is a stone cold killer. That. need the elbow to the jaw should have. been a big warning for everybody about. who he is. I think we're just kind of. learning about this particular player. I. think we're excited about the. possibilities of this guy and what he. could become in the NBA. They're already. talking about like, oh well, here it is. This is the We had obviously the runs of. the past and it gets to Jordan and. LeBron come. Shout out to LeBron. And.

then now Wem is here. He's about to. carry this entire thing. hasn't won yet, but boy, last night looked like. something special from the future. What. he is is taller, tougher, more dynamic, and also petty. He hates that guy that. looks a lot like him, but he's the. Caucasian version. Chad Holgren is a guy. that I don't think this Webby guy really. enjoys at all. So, it seems like you. think about who he is as a competitor. All the elites, you know, you think. about the elite athletes at the top of. the board, all of them. Psychos, competitive spirit psychos. Okay, that's.

the re that's why they're that's why. they lift all them weights. That's why. they they wake up so early. That's why. they watch so much film. That's why. everything is being finely tuned because. they are psycho competitive athletes. that uh drive them to be the best. We. know who they are. You start going. around sports, you know exactly who. we're talking about. It it started being. classified as the mamba mentality and I. think Kobe is certainly one of those. people. Michael Jordan, Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, Serena Williams, Tiger Woods, you go at the top, they're psychos. Wayne Gretzky, the these psychos, okay? They are committing everything in their. being to being great and they will stop. at nothing to win. It feels like people.

don't think Wemby's like that because. he's. >> French. >> Sure. >> I think that certainly is a part of it. I think that is a big part of it. But. whenever you start lining up what last. night was Chad Homegrren, that's going. back to Team USA taking on team France. I guess there were some clips coming out. of WBY when he was 17 years old watching. Chad get the trophy and him being bummed. out in there. SGA wins the MVP over him. This guy's the best defensive player on. the planet. Unanimous vote and also on. the offensive side able to do it. But is. he the most valuable person to his team? I think he would be able to argue that. SGA wins back to back. SGA also very.

good. But WBY having to watch SGA get. his trophy. Also Chad Homkins on the. other side. And they got a banner. hanging up there and they're six and a. half point dogs. It felt like that was. the checklist for Webby to go ahead and. have a huge night and he did. He's. exactly I think what we hope he is. I. think this is a great thing for hoops. But last night in general, double. overtime absolutely bonkers show. Caruso's going crazy. Coaching's at a. high level. It was spectacular. Nine-year NFL vet. Darius J. Butler is.

here. This is what Adam Silver. >> would go into a lab and try to create if. he could for especially with all the. hype coming in. Hey, these are the two. teams. We've been talking about this. since before the playoffs even. It's. like, is it going to be the Alien or is. it going to be this Oklahoma City team. that is seemingly in the middle of a. dynasty run right now and they are. incredibly deep. Then we finally get to. it in game one. Okay, we got game seven. vibes in game one. We go double overtime. and we got their superstars playing. I. mean it was. that was a wet dream I assume for Adam. Silver in the NBA last I assume that is.

how they went to bed feeling last night. >> Yeah. Rarely does a matchup really live. up to the expectations and just watching. that game probably want to say late. fourth quarter. I'm like this is one of. the best basketball games I've ever. watched and it was probably five six. more moments that kind of had you. jumping up out off the couch after that. from both sides. You know, OKC, every. time you thought, you know, the Spurs. would kind of take full control of the. game, OKC fought back. Caruso hit a. three. Jay Will hit a three, who was. huge in his return uh to the Thunder in. a little over 30 minutes, but he was.

dominant. Uh Caruso, he was. unbelievable. I know Wimi dominated, but. him taking on that task. Now, look, you. do have to look at the big Caucasian. that's the alien on your team. Like, hey, how about you guard the other alien. on their team? So, got some questions. about that, but he's. >> That is fascinating. Caruso was on Webby. a couple times. Quite a bit. >> Quite a bit. Interesting. >> Okay. Caruso. >> And he and he he did I mean he did the. best he could do. He he held it down. Caruso looked like he was worth $250. million to uh Thunder last night. He was.

unbelievable. But yeah, Wimby he he he's. the guy and he's the guy who has that. GOAT potential. You talk about the the. creams of the past. You talk about. Jordan. You talk about LeBron. Like Wimi. has had these expectations. Like you. said, he hasn't won it yet. This is the. West Conference Finals. But that. performance was unbelievable. He only. had what, three blocks, but it seems. like his just his impact when he's on. the court and they put the stats up when. he's on the court, it's unbelievable. I. remember SCA late in the fourth quarter, he had like a little bunny, wide open. floater. Women didn't even jump. I think. he was on the other side of the paint. You can just see he wasn't really.

comfortable just cuz he's on the court. That's the impact that he has on both. sides of the court. It's unbelievable. I. can't wait to see the rest of this. series and what it has for us. >> Yeah. And you talk about high level. basketball. I mean, there was some. genius stuff going. It felt like it was, hey, we got some real cooking going on. both sides. Highlevel basketball. Cannot. wait to catch up with Chris Paul about. it. But whenever you think about WBY. going in there and delivering in that. way, it's like this guy's going to be. must watch. He understands the moment, you know, very obvious he understands. moment. We saw in the Olympics a little. bit whenever he was on France in France.

taking on team USA. Obviously, you see. him miss him going in there. understanding the moment and feeding off. of all of it. Yeah. Yeah, like you I. like that's old school pettiness that I. think you need. I think. >> he played 48 minutes too. So like during. during the season he he averaged 30. minutes. So that was one of my concerns. like okay now you get to the playoffs. now you're going to have games you're. going to have battles especially we all. saw this Thunder matchup coming you're. going to have to play 40 plus minutes a. night. So for him to grind it out double. overtime and be dominant throughout that. was unbelievable. >> Let's go to one HALF OF THE HAMMER.

Cowboys AP time. What's up? Yeah, web. movie is obviously unbelievable, but. also Harper and Castle, all three of. them, the first threesome, I believe 22. were under to have it. All three of them. had a double double. The lights were not. too bright for these guys. They they are. so young and they were just they didn't. give a [ __ ] about any of it. >> Yeah. Talking about how young they are. There it is. I think their average age. is like 22 as a whole. So, whenever you. talk about a young team finding their. own and growing into who they want to. become, it's happening in front of us. Now, this is where basketball players. and teams become legendary, the. playoffs. That is why some of these.

players that don't get a lot of playoff. minutes really kind of go into obscurity. because you're not really known. The. playoffs is its own season. Teams become. stories. Legends are made during the. playoffs. This is when big moments. happen. And Webby had all the hype and. the folklore going into this. And this. team young is just going to be able to. go ahead and build. All of them showed. up. And how young they are just tells. us, well, we got electrifying basketball. for the next 20 years. Let's go to the. talk table boss Connor and Ty Schmidt. Con man is a dream and you are. >> quickly.

>> Oh yeah, >> I I think you are quickly becoming uh. >> this guy might actually never lose again. which should be a conversation in all. Is that too much in the moment? Are we. overreacting right now? Con man, I. >> I don't know because when we're talking. about the moment like you mentioned it, you know, Bryce Harper kind of brought. it up to us kind of owning the moment. I. don't know if we've ever seen a guy his. age own the moment on a basketball court. the way he did yesterday. the the step. in three right here was one of the most. like ridiculous shots I think I've ever. seen and this guy's 22 like we're.

talking about someone who sure if he was. 5 years into his career maybe this. wasn't his first conference finals that. would be one thing but it's his first. conference finals his first game in the. conference finals and he does that on. you know MVP night you mentioned it like. he really is just a freak and it might. be the greatest young core in the. history of the NBA like there's a reason. the NBA lottery is now set up where you. can't have a backto-back to back draft. with WBY to Castle to Harper because. that is what they built and Devin Vel's. on there. I think he led the team in.

minutes. He blocked Chad Homegrren at. the rim in double overtime. Yeah. Late. and that basically sealed the deal. But. I to be honest, if I'm LeBron James, I'm real worried. going to win a title this year. I'M REAL. WORRIED. I'M REAL. >> HE IS 41. And I'm real worried that when. he gets a title at 22 and then all of a. sudden this guy only needs four more and. he's passing me already. Honestly, if. I'm LeBron in my head, I'M GOING TO. BRING IN. >> I GOT TO GET TO SAN ANTONIO. I got I got.

to I'm going to San Antonio now to go. play with this guy cuz why wouldn't you? Like if if you're watching this, how. could you not want to be a part of it? Sure. Debo mentioned he had three. blocks. Watching SGA in the first half. trying to figure out how to play with. WBY on the court was interesting. I. forget how many points he had at half, but it wasn't many. It wasn't MVP, you. know, SGA and just seeing what WBY does. as a presence. Like Caruso had 30 points. and it felt like that's more so why they. had him playing defense on WY because.

what Caruso could do on offense with him. on the court. But it was ridiculous to. watch. That was the best basketball. game. I'm just kind of piecing this. together now and I don't like that my. brain just did that but huge night for. French-speaking people. >> Sure. >> Oh yeah. >> I mean why I mean it was a huge. >> He also speaks English though and his. English is very good. >> No and obviously people in Montreal. speak English somewhere I assume there. but last night was a lot of messy wasn't. it? >> No it wasn't. But you know we can give. that we can give them that. >> We don't really get that in sports much.

do we? No. >> Since like Zizu and Thierry were playing. for the French soccer team. I don't. think there's a lot of like, hey, French-speaking people are really. crushing sports right now. >> No, definitely not. And I mean, it's. kind of just the Canadians and then when. you have a guy like Webby come out of. nowhere and, you know, maybe he was. thinking that, too. He's like, and I I. didn't see it. We didn't see much of his. postgame media stuff, but maybe maybe he. did give his entire, you know, postgame. media scroll. Maybe he did in French. I. may I may have missed that. I don't. know. >> Well, I don't know if you saw the. graphic that we put together for we try.

to. >> Yeah. I mean, >> elabor. I think is and that's goal or something. like that. Say there's a whole another. thing. >> no less less habitat is obviously uh. >> the halves. >> Okay, that is there's another part. though. There's another half of this. this sentence that is. >> the Canadian. >> Okay, you're you're dancing around it. Bruce, we sent it into the group. Can. you grab that please? the uh the.

Canadian the French speaking thing in. the group text there. It's a full saying. and I'll tell you what, >> pretty good. >> Yeah. Yeah. I I would say the French. language sounds pretty spectacular. whenever it's read. But yeah, the. Abatons last night have a huge win. Montreal upside down. That city is going. to be on display, I think, here now even. more so than anything. And I know this. happens in college a lot, which leads us. to the next story we're going to chat. about. Like sports puts cities and towns. on a map. Okay, it's it's broadcasting.

It is commercial for your city. It is. how a lot of people will think about. what your city is forever uh through the. lens of sports. Like that is kind of. what happens. Montre what they're about. to do I think over these Eastern. Conference Finals and hell Carolina. Hurricanes have literally been. unbeatable. I think with the Montreal. people, the Leabaton or whatever the. hell uh I think they are going to. showcase how good of a sports town and. they are and I think it is going to be a. great I mean this they are going.

bananas. >> That city doesn't sleep. I love I've. been to Montreal two times. It is. insane. >> That was not where the game was. >> No, that's just a watch along. That's a. watch along that's happening. So, like. I'm pretty The thing I'm jacked up about. here is that I think a lot of people are. going to get welcomed and kind of. introduced to hockey culture, but like. their hockey culture is bananas. And. there's a lot of other Canadian teams, I. think, that are not going to be excited. how much their barn's getting celebrated. because they feel like their barn is. probably a little bit more electrifying. But I think we got some great.

environments, great atmosphere going. forward. Oklahoma City last night was. awesome. >> Yeah. >> San Antonio is going to be outrageous. Madison Square Garden, we already know. enough about. >> I mean, let's go ahead and go crazy here. for the Cavs, too. I think Cleveland is. going to show up in a big way. >> Dan, we'll see. >> Is Dan Gilbert busing people to MSG? >> See, I love that, too. I like it. whenever an owner is busing what, 25. buses up. >> 25 buses. Great move by him. >> Yeah, that's like college high school. >> I love that. I I enjoy anytime that. happens. >> It's culture. >> How are they able to get that many? >> Yeah, that's a good question.

>> That's a good question. And he got good. seats. Like, they weren't in the nose. beds. He got good seats for every single. one in there. >> And they were the only ones in there. >> 10 minutes left in the game. Hey, a lot. of Montreal fans in Buffalo last night. There was a big pop whenever they scored. early. Couple times there was that was. very loud. I'm like, "Oh, hold the. phone." How about the whistle gate going. on there, huh? >> Interesting. >> Yeah, you could say that. >> That's game seven puck. It feels like. there's always going to be some sort of. >> When you're running the goalie all. night, it kind of happens. You know, they they take the goalie out before. they score to tie it. So, >> again,

>> no free hacks on the goalie. Do you have. any inside info. >> regarding this play or? >> No inside info on this particular play, but clear you can hear the whistle. >> Yeah. >> You know, I was potentially listening to. the other game. >> Sure. >> Because Tariq's on a microphone over. here. Not that I don't love McDonald. I. do love Mcdana, but with the way the. games were kind of timed up, I was. trying to bounce back and forth the. audio. Good. It felt like March Madness. last. >> Yeah, a little bit. >> It felt like March Madness on the TVs. there. So, I didn't hear the whistle as.

clearly, I think, as you can certainly. But boy, the Buffalo Sabres fans, the. Buffalo people, just another heartbreak. in Buffalo. >> And we want to let them know, hey, hell. of a run though. >> It always is. >> Again, they're tired of that. They're. tired of that. They're tired of that. hand clap. They're tired of being told, "Hell of a run." Buffalo fans, you're of. the Bills, the Sabres. Like, >> they'll pout till the Cows come home. Don't worry. They'll be fine. >> Oh, come on. >> They will. They will. They always do. We. should probably look at the numbers that. Alex Touque had since Josh Alen Moore's.

jersey debate and the drum in game two. of the first round. I don't want to pile. on. I don't. Okay. >> What? What? What? Then why do stuff you. don't want to do then? Cuz that's what. you're doing right now. >> I I just would like to look at the. numbers. Hembo, if you hear this, do. that, please. >> You don't want to pile. >> I don't want to pile. >> Of course you don't. >> And you know, Josh Allen's a hell of a. football player. >> Great football player. >> But boy oh boy, it really took a turn. Buffalo has four playoff eliminations. this year. >> Mar game seven overtime.

>> Jeez Louise, man. >> Game seven. >> They're used to it at this point. >> No, they can't. >> Plus the fours. I mean, >> jeez. >> NHL won't change a rule for them either. >> Why can't we wear our jerseys? >> Okay. All right. >> We wanted that rule changed, too. Those. stupid yellow jerseys. >> Well, not only the overtime rule is what. he's talking about, I think. So they. they could have answered there, Patrick. Mahomes, I think. >> Oh, >> well that one. Yeah. Yeah, they did. They they changed it. >> Well, that's what I'm saying though. He. said he doesn't think they're going to.

do that in the NHL, but. >> Oh, >> I think what they're saying is they. overturned a whistle, didn't they, in. Buffalo if I was talking about them. >> Hey, Buffalo fans, chin up. >> Okay, >> chin up. >> Chin up. >> I mean, yeah. >> Yeah, you don't want to say it to him. Sounds like Da does Dan maybe. >> Mr. Butters even told us, "Hey, the two. ones keep me up at night.". >> Yeah, you're right. Whistle. >> We got to whistle. >> Screw the Buffalo Bill. keep him up. laughing. >> Uh before we move to the NBA with a man. who knows a lot more than we do about. the NBA, uh I did get a chance to break. some news in the NHL. >> Yeah. >> What. >> did I put on an insider cap? Potentially.

breaking. According to source, >> sis, >> the Vegas Golden Knights in-person. appeal of the missing media obligations. case stemming from game six of the. Anaheim Ducks series was heard in New. York this morning by NHL Commissioner. Gary Bman. source says. >> closer to the situation are quoted as. saying Vegas's appeal was heard in. person this morning. The penalties. currently stand as originally assessed. $100,000 fine to court uh tors second.

round pick yanked out of the. organization. So Gary Bman commissioner. heard the defense understood the. situation and say listen we can't start. a precedent here. This can't be the. case. Torch probably understood as a man. who used to be in the media. I mean, we. heard EJ yesterday, 18-year NHL vet. saying as a player, I I want to get home. there. You know, I understand. But. Allan, the media, it's like, "Hey, we're. trying to, you know, do a thing." Ty, it. feels like you're a little bit upset. about the inside breaking news that I. had. As soon as I started putting pen to. paper, if you will, thumb to phone to.

put this out, you started shrugging and. huffing over. >> Yeah. What What's going on over this? Is. this is life of insider, by the way. I. don't know if I like you huffing and. puffing in my news. >> I'm not mad at you, pal. Okay. you. didn't make the decision. I'm just I'm. just wondering. Yeah, I'm not shooting. the messenger. I'm just wondering if the. uh. >> you're huffing and puffing at the. messenger. >> at the league itself. Uh if they maybe. have it out for, you know, Tors and the. boys. This is [ __ ] We already heard. that. Listen, they had restrictions. Okay, that bird had to get in the air.

otherwise the boys were going to have to. stay in Anaheim an extra night. You. think Torch is putting up with that? No. So, you know what I want Torch to do. from here on out? Every single, you. know, postgame media scrum, every. question, that's a stupid [ __ ]. question. next and he's going to do it. You think? You think the torch is above. doing that? I don't think so. They have. no idea what kind of monster they. created. He'll eat that 100k. That's a. couple, you know, age bottles of. Bordeaux that he's not going to be able. to have this off season and we're going. to move right along. And [ __ ] that. second round pick. Don't need that. either. Okay. This is [ __ ] though. Pure poppycock. Feels like a witch hunt.

Not the kind of mojo you want going in. to the Western Conference Finals. >> Jeez. Second round dress. >> That's a big That's a big time. especially for the Vegas Golden Knights. You got a lot of high-end players you're. going to need. >> He totally will figure it out. He'll. figure it out. >> Get the fine. But second round pick. Jeez. >> Yes. >> Poppy [ __ ]. >> Yeah. Pure poppycock. It's [ __ ]. >> This insider game's crazy. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Careful. That's going to be that's. going to happen. >> It sounds like he's thinking it's going. to happen a lot against the Vegas team. cuz he said they're out to get him.

>> No more Pens logo. I don't see it. anymore. All I see is a freaking shield. and it has NHL. Listen, if I'm going to. become an NHL insider, just know. sometimes I'm going to have to break. your hearts, boys. Okay? That's just. life that I'm going to have to deal. with. >> Long as you as long as you so for some. of our teams, okay? Cuz I cuz coming out. here and just saying, "Are you going to. this? This is the situation.". >> I AM AS AN insider standing directly on. business. Yeah. >> I'm going to get the news out. That's. what I'm trying to do. >> cuz I don't want to I don't want to be. looking over there and seeing basically.

just a bet a betman standing on your. shoulders constantly just telling you. let him know Pat. >> WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? YOU THINK. BATMAN'S THE SOURCE? >> I don't want to do that. >> Says he's not. >> No. No. >> You think he would want to be the source. on this one as saying like originally. assessed? No, he wouldn't want that. Now, have we maybe infiltrated. some other offices around? >> Maybe. Maybe we have. >> that insider game. >> holding their water. >> NOT I'M BREAKING NEWS. >> BE HOLDING THEIR WATER. >> WHO'S WATERING? I break. >> IT MIGHT BE HOLDING THEIR WATER.

>> OKAY. I You should hear what I'm I got. cooking right now. I got some lines in. the water. >> And it's going to be big. >> Good luck. >> It's going to be big. I'm working it. >> McDavid the hockey town. >> Mhm. We'll see. >> David Pittburg would be. >> ladies and gentlemen, let's pivot away. from the NHL. Obviously, we're breaking. big news. It's crazy to be in the game. already. Look at Look what just. happened. >> No, I know. Scary game. Sean's still. dealing with. >> Sean's got a little followout. >> Yeah. >> Did we get to hear WBY talk after the. game? There was no post. >> Nope. You had to go to like French local. media to find that.

>> Mhm. >> You can't understand. >> What's going on? I hope everything's all. right over here. >> Me, too. >> Ladies and gentlemen, joining us now. from the world of the NBA. A man who. played. a 100red years. >> Yep. >> In the NBA. 22 years in the NBA. Holy. [ __ ]. >> Long time. >> 18 years. Eric Johnson. 22 years in the. NBA. Ladies and gentlemen, obsolate. stallion Chris Paul. >> How you doing, Chris? >> What up, fellas? It's 21, Pat. 21.

>> And but I was always hoping for that. next one, though. You know, because that. was my favorite Chris Paul year. The. next year, cuz how good he was going to. be. >> Are you announcing something? >> Yeah, not mine. >> Oh, okay. Yeah, you're done. I forgot. about that. But you know what? There is. another Chris Paul coming. Hey, Sports. Center Next put up a little highlight. I. guess your kid went crazy this past. weekend. Is that accurate? And uh Oh. Swagoo's boy is going to be number one. overall. Then, uh, hold on. Uh, Rondo's. kid, right? >> Yeah. He's in eighth grade. >> Rondo's kid is in eighth grade. How old. How old is your boy? And at what point.

did you know that he was going to be. phenomenal at basketball? And is it just. kind of have to happen with you guys? Like Rondo, I think because he's point. guard, basketball IQ going to be crazy. for you. Same thing with your kid. How. do you kind of judge like forcing him to. play verse wanting to play verse, you. know, all that type of [ __ ] Chris? That. has to be difficult. >> He He's a sophomore. Um he's sort of. just going through his process. I think. the coolest thing about being out on the. circuit, especially with the EBL, is. getting to see all these different kids, right? All the different kids of guys.

who I played against. Rondo's son, Pierre, super duper nice. Um all these. kids, it's it's a gang of kids that. aren't former players, kids, or whatnot, but it's it's cool to get a chance to be. there and see their process. >> Yeah. You've talked about these. tournaments being filthy. This is AAU. stuff here. As somebody that didn't grow. up in the basketball world, these this. is what AA tournaments are. And how many. of these are there? >> Yeah. So, in the EBL, uh, you have four. stops. This was Memphis this past. weekend. And, um, Kansas City is next.

weekend. Then we have a Vegas stop, and. then you have Peach Jam, which is the. biggest basketball. like you grow, I mean, youth basketball. tournament there is, right? Augusta is. known for the Masters and the Peach Jam. >> Peach Jam's in Augusta, Georgia. >> In Augusta, Georgia. You should pull up. Kids would love to see you down there, Pat. >> Oh, absolutely. Speaking of pulling up, I mean. >> Mhm. >> They're going to have to see that, too. I Is that who is it? 10 ft. I don't. know. You tell me.

>> The elbow might be in just a little bit. too far. I don't know where that ball. going. >> In a hoop. Just wherever. Just if you. need to get eyes on my ball, look for. the hoop. That's where it's headed to, Chris. Okay. You know what I mean? Speaking of uh Elbo, that shouts to your. kid, by the way, and you. I know you put. a lot of emphasis into that and a lot of. time and effort and your finances into. it to hopefully pass the baton to. another generation of great hoopers. Let's talk about the next generation. Ladies and gentlemen, we have been. debuting CP's top three, which has been. something that after we talk to him, uh.

we get a chance to kind of our takeaway. of his big takes. his big take last. night. I think one of them was uh hey We. Wy stepping in there and shooting that. in overtime down three 20 30 seconds. left or whatever in the biggest moment. is something that I think you said you. would have expected maybe it's all the. other [ __ ] that maybe is the thing that. he had to work on. Always been a great. shooter. I think people forget that and. this is just a moment to showcase that. What's your takeaway of how WBY. performed last night in this moment in. particular?

>> Man, it was just fun to watch. tell you. the truth and to know him and the. situation and the moment. Uh Vic is a. great shooter. Last year he shot a lot. of threes, a lot of threes, but now you. just get a chance to see the evolution. of his game. He goes inside out the way. he plays and that's just trust. First of. all, he kicked it ahead to Steph Castle. Steph kicked it back to him and Vic. likes those moments. >> Yeah. Okay. So when he passes that back, he thinks he's shooting that right. there. >> Absolutely.

Oh, >> you didn't even think about it. >> Okay, so everybody on the floor knew. that Wemby was pulling that up right. there, you think? >> Yes. Yes. Especially for the Spurs, everybody knew he was shooting it. >> Oh, that is awesome. Okay. To have that. um fortitude, I will say. I think a lot. of people in this generation quickly. judge, especially somebody when one of. their first interviews, we hear from. him, you say, "Uverse, we kind of see things the same way." And. he's he's out there with monks and he's. I don't like it. big night for French. speaking folks I will say but he's also.

French so I think there is a natural. thing that kind of comes alongside of. that hoopers and the way basketball's. kind of evolving I think a lot of people. can kind of get lost and not really know. that this guy's a certified killer right. always been that way Chris is that kind. of uh the thing that separates him as. opposed to just being a 7 foot five. incredibly athletic guy in between the. years this guy is a monster right I. think that's what we need to talk about. >> yeah yeah he he he works at it so the. things that he's one of those guys that. if you tell tell him he's not that good. at something, he's going to go put the. work on work in on it and get better at.

it. So, if that was his physicality, right, cuz obviously you come into the. league, everybody talked about how light. he was and people sort of push him here. and there, but he's 7'5. He got a lot. stronger, right? He used to play with. his back to the basket a lot and he. still does. But this play right here. that they keep showing was so dope and. all I could think about was um was Greg. Papovic when I first got to San Antonio. last year and Pop would just always be. on Vic about facing up facing up facing.

up first triple threat right and you see. how the game is just evolve and it just. comes so easy to him now. >> Yeah. So he's a hard worker. Do you. think watching SGA get the trophy last. night was obviously something that he. thought about? Maybe the chat the chat. story was seemingly something that was. brewing online and then they were. showing throwback clips in the Algo. The. Algo was showing me a 17-year-old WMBBY. taking on I don't know maybe a. 17-year-old Chet Homegrren as well. If. these two have been looking each other. in the eye since they're kids, it seems.

like that is actually the case. How much. of that do you think fed into what last. night was? And I want to let you know if. you uh get a chance to chat with him, let him know that I think I respect how. big of a like a petty competitive dog he. is that I knew last night he was going. to go absolutely crazy and I bet on it. and I won a lot of money and the crown. is seemingly starting to come my way. >> Yeah, >> the crown is seemingly I'm starting TO. CROWN. I'M SORRY. RONDA ROUSEY, NO. PROBLEM. I think this is what I'm going. to start doing. I'm betting on dogs.

only. Okay. I need to know that they're. absolute dogs. That felt like a moment. for him to like, hey, yeah, right. This. this lot of buildup it felt like for. WBY. Obviously, to materialize all that. and to execute is one thing, but I think. that fed him. Isn't that kind of like. his competitive fire or personality. trait that I don't think we're all kind. of learning about in real time? >> Yeah, I think so. It was a It was a cool. interview that Vic did earlier in the. season and he was talking about how he. shows his emotions. Like, he don't want. to carry the burden of having to show.

his emotions. I think he does a great. job of that. He just he's hooping. He's. having fun and he's going to tell you. He's sort of going to show you. Obvious. anybody who love this game cuz you you. see some teams when there's an MVP. ceremony, some teams go to the locker. room. Some teams are not out there when. it happens cuz they don't want to be a. part of it. But Vic, somebody tell you. he he I saw the video like everybody. else. he didn't look or what not, but of. course he understands the moment and. he's somebody that's always finding. little things to to push him.

>> Yeah. I uh I'm excited to watch. He's. going to play for what, another 20. We. looked this up. Okay. We looked this up. as people that are kind of outsiders of. the NBA world. >> Feels like all the GOAT conversations. that happen like you played 20 21 years. >> You thought you had 22 of. >> just basic ass 21 years. 21. 21 might be up for question two, but. that's neither here nor. >> All right. So, we'll say how many good. how how many do you would you like to. how many meaty years would 21 man.

>> All right. 20 20 20 real 21 ethical I'm. not doing that. I'm not getting into. that. But obviously that is a real thing. in basketball. It feels like you have to. play a very long time. You have to give. a long time to league. You have to be. great for a very long time. him at 7. foot five, it's hard to imagine that. size of a body being able to I think. Jordan was like 15 years, two of them at. Washington, 13. He was by far the least. I mean, LeBron, you got threw him out. Kareem that they all played forever.

Like everybody like kind of plays. forever. That's a part of the hooping. lore. I think during the conversation, 7. foot five, he works on everything. I. think that's gonna be. >> a marvel if he's able to maintain. actually just just from what we. understand about humans. Haven't seen it. ever. It's like that would be a crazy. thing if he was able to last long which. it seems like all the goats of. basketball are able to do Chris. That. would just be a crazy thing for us to. watch. I'm honestly not worried about. Vic lasting right playing for a long a.

long time in the league cuz his. preparation, the way he works, the way. he. trains, all the little details, he's. that competitive. Like I told like when. I got there, whether it's pingpong, whether it's chess, whether it's just. shooting games after practice. Um, and. he's like a student of the game. Like he. watches everything constantly. And it's. kind of crazy to see it all come. together cuz I remember I went to go. watch him play before he came to the NBA.

and he was 7'5. wing player and he just keeps learning. things throughout the years. And if you. watch down the stretch of that game, the. losses that Vic caught when Caruso was. guarding him, those are plays that he. didn't used to do. He was just always on. the perimeter. But now he realized that. he can score in so many different ways. >> So hopefully he only gets better. somehow. We're lucky to be a part of. this. However long this run is, Mr. uh. Vic Webin, do you call him Vic? We all. call him WBY. I think we'll stick with.

WBY if we meet him. Bonjou Vic Jeopel. Pat, you know, to fantastic. We'll. certainly do that. But it is crazy that. he's already being talked about as this. is the. >> hey, this the next generation of the. NBA. It's a lot of weight. I feel like. he's ready for the world of it, but he's. playing against a guy who's already a. back-to-back MVP. It's very abnormal. Go. ahead, D. >> Yeah, Chris. And I'm assuming this is. one of your three as well, but SCA. struggled in the first half, struggled. down the stretch to really get going. like we used to see him get going. Had. 12 assists, only four turnovers, so I. feel like he was pretty efficient there.

What type of adjustments do you think. SGA will make, you know, going into the. next game, >> man? Um I I think one of the things that. we talked about too, Pat, was just the. coaching. Like both teams are coaching. really well. Obviously Shady struggle or. whatnot um to score, but they've been. here. They battle tested. They won the. championship. They lost last year to. Denver, I think, game one. So, they'll. go watch film and regroup. But, uh Shay. seeing a double team every time he come.

down the court. He going to see that. every single game. You know, they they. they loading up. They trying to make the. other guys make shots, i.e. Caruso. having 30 or something like that. But he. going to try to figure it out. >> Okay. So, this was what we talked about. with the Lakers, too, right? This JJ. Reic was like uh being not dramatic. You. didn't say dramatic, but like overdoing. it maybe or something like that. He was. not going to let the game wrecker wreck. the game. We have that in football as. well. Uh that is just kind of standard. operating procedure amongst most winning. organizations. Like, hey, we got to try.

to make them play left-handed. We got to. get rid of their best player. SGA is. obviously back-to-back MVP because he. has been. >> relatively successful against everybody. What was it like 20 straight years of at. least 20 points or whatever? How come. it's different with some teams? Is it. the WBY factor that you know cuz they. have had success against Oklahoma City. all year and has SGA gotten the same. treatment from every team? Like how do. you think he and followup another one if. you want to explain this situation are. they picking and choosing who's open.

whenever they bring somebody because. that kind of happens in football. We got. to rob Peter to pay Paul somewhere. So. somebody like how do they how do you. think that all comes together with SGA. being able to respond and what do they. do in the next game you think to. Oklahoma City? >> All right. Bet you asked about six. questions right there. >> Hey Davis, give the [ __ ] answer. All. right. You're the [ __ ] guy. >> 21 years. >> 21 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE. GO AHEAD. OKAY. >> LISTEN. So in the NBA we have hot guys. and cold guys, right? So hot guys you.

actually don't help off of them as much. Cold guys you full body help. But out. here in this game, no no no disrespect. to a lot of these coaches in the league, but a lot of these coaches want to see. how the game starts and then they let. the main guy get 20 25 points. Then they. be like, "Okay, we we going to get the. ball out of his hands, right?" Like the. elite teams and the really great. coaches, as you can see, they be like, "No, we just not even going to let this. this guy get going." So when Shay comes. down the court, if you watch, look at. the wall that they're building every.

single time down. every single time. down. Their whole mindset is to not look. look they load they loaded up. They. loaded up. They just trying to make him. see a wall. Shaden's seen every coverage. you could pos possibly see. But look at. look at where Vic is right there. Look. at that. That's hard that's hard to play. against. But um like I said, he's seen. it before and it's up to your teammates. to make shots. >> Okay. And we had the other guys stat. against the Lakers. The other guys on. the Thunder went crazy. So obviously. they were able to win while Shay was. still getting double teamed or.

eliminated or whatever. And I think. against the the Spurs on Christmas I. think Caruso did not have a great. shooting day and then last night has a. phenomenal shooting night and it's like. hold the phone now. Now will they. continue to uh leave Caruso open because. it feels like they do decide like SGA. has to find the open person, right? That. is what he's doing. Caruso had a lot of. good looks and I think SGA had to make. that decision in real time. Does he know. who they're going to let free? How does. he know just from playing? Or is there. like an indication that this is how.

they're going to play the entire game? We in the NFL have a first 15 where. >> coaches are trying to get see how. they'll line up against different. formations that they want to use. Okay. So, first 15 want to be successful, but. we want to see what the defense is doing. against our [ __ ] and then we're going to. make adjustments of that after that. It's like a a known thing in football. Same thing happening for SGA here. whenever he takes on the Spurs at the. beginning of the game or how do you guys. figure that all out? >> Well, you figure it out cuz it's usually. pretty consistent throughout the season.

The guys who shoot it better than others. and there's guys that don't, right? So, probably most games depending on who's. on the court. Like if Jared McCain's on. the court and Caruso, they they're. definitely going to leave Caruso open. more than Jared McCain. So, you're. trying to figure that out on the fly as. you go. But um it's it's like clockwork. for sure. He knows he's going to see all. these extra bodies when he get into the. paint and you just got to try to make. the right decision. And then you also. got to figure out when to be just a. little bit more selfish on some plays.

>> Okay. That's whenever he just decides to. take care. He did a couple times. Took. it to the rack. And how long he held on. to it. >> before letting it touch the backboard. cuz WBY is like right behind him. You. could just like feel him like get there. Get get there. dunked. Shay dunked one. last night. He went He drove the lane. and dunked and he'll never dunk. >> But that's cuz he knew that Vic was over. there. That Vic might Yeah, that one. right there. He'll never dunk, >> but he had to cuz Vic was right there. >> I'm not going to let this ball uh even. come close to getting volley out of.

here, which he was earlier. >> Exactly. >> The the Webby dunk in between Chad and. SGA. >> First of all, shout out to SGA going up. >> I mean, he's up there. >> Those are two those are two aliens. And. SJ's right up in there. I mean, that was. >> Yeah, he ain't doing nothing up there. >> Crazy. >> All right, your last one that we thought. uh had to be uh obviously mentioned that. you were talking about, you already. mentioned it kind of the coaching. masterclass. Can you tell me about this. a little bit about what we watch? I love.

the game. Looked like both teams were. making adjustments. Both teams were. answering and responding. Obviously, the. players do their thing. The coaching. though, I think a lot of us maybe just. thought it was good. Didn't really. understand why it was good. Why was last. night such a high level of basketball, you think, Chris? >> First of all, the way these two teams. play. It's just the coaching that gives. them the confidence to play free. Like a. kid like Dylan Harper, you don't come in. as a rookie and make those different. type plays if you're not being coached.

and motivated to just go play free and. not worry about making mistakes. Obviously, uh, Mark in OKC has those. guys playing like that night in and. night out, but playing for San Antonio. last year and getting a chance to see. the preparation that goes in every. single day, right? Like Mike in there. with the guys at 8 9:00 a.m. before. practice, going on all the ball movement. and all this stuff like that. It's just, it's really dope to see it all come. together. I was watching the the end of. game plays that they were running. um.

the out of bounds play right here. So if. you watch Steph Castle, this is the. funnest part for me in in basketball and. all is to watch the plays and the. execution. So Steph Castle screens. and then he comes over to Deon Vel and. this is a slip out, right? He going he's. going like he's getting champ and he. slips out. He's wide open, right? But. it's also great coaching by OKC because. they got uh chat on the ball and it's. just timing. Dylan Har see the basket.

>> I thought the inbound couldn't see that. he was wide ass open so he threw it. short instead of farside. He He throws. that far side. That's probably tip in.7. seconds. Holy hell. We just ran a. designed play for this exact moment. Executed, won the game. >> Yeah. And a lot of games come down to. these situations. And some of the best. coaches that I played for. >> at the end of at the end of practice. Yeah. Look at that. You can't see. nothing. Dylan Harper is a tall guard. So imagine. me when I used to have to do this.

>> Oh yeah. >> Like I don't see now like. >> you gota do a lot of no look, huh? Lot. of no look out of you, I assume. Where. where. >> Yeah. >> You got to you got to pass it with the. the grace of God. You just better hope. >> All right, let's talk about tonight as. we hit the top three. Uh your thoughts. on the East and how this thing's going. to go. The Goden has been a marvel. I. mean, just an absolute spectacle. New. York feels like it's time for New York.

to maybe go on a full championship run. and the streets are going to be bananas. And then the Cavaliers, holy hell, they. just went in there and just punked the. Pistons. Just punked the Motor City. crew. Is that what Motor City Sports. crew? Is that what the Miz called you. guys up? >> Yeah, that's what he said. >> Okay. How should we be viewing this one? And obviously Jaylen Brunson in Spa is. going to be a phenomenal matchup. Is. that what we should be looking for? And. Chris, how do you kind of judge how this. series goes? Is OG back? >> Yes, >> OG's back. Um, this is going to be a.

good series. I think um the game one. will be interesting to see who sets the. tone. And I tell you what's crazy is I. played in the Western Conference my. whole career. I never played for a. Eastern Conference team. So to now be. out and watch the different games and. see sort of the pace of the Western. Conference. They said that all the time. like when when I was in the league is. that it was sort of the Eastern. Conference, you know, they just a little. bit more grind the game out. >> Yeah, you guys are soft out there in the.

West Coast. Yeah, I understand. >> You call it what you want to. What you. call it what you want to. >> No, I think that's what they I didn't. know they said that until you just said. that right now. But if I was a part of. that time when people were talking, I. assume what I would have said from. Pittsburgh now in Indiana. West Coast. soft. We know that that's the case. Yeah, it's nice weather out there. though. Great guy. >> Great. I said Western Conference, not. the West Coast. >> Yeah, but we'll just Yeah, we'll just. And I'm sure. >> going to put everybody in there. together, huh? >> Yeah. I'm sure everybody's going to be. excited about me doing that.

>> They understand. >> That's on them. Yeah, that's on Yeah, we're from the East. That's kind of how. we That is kind of how we operate. You. understand that? But you're saying the. style of play over there on the East a. little bit different, especially with. these two teams. >> Yeah, I think so. It'll be a little bit. slower slower pace. Uh Jaylen has the. ball a lot of the times uh with the. Knicks and obviously Donovan the James. James plays a little bit of a slower. game for the most part. So it's going to. be interesting to see how this series. starts off and how who guards who. Uh.

who sets the tone. >> All right. We'll be excited for that. We'll catch up with you next time. Your. kid beating the hell out of you in. basketball right now. Yeah. >> No chance. >> No, I saw him shooting. I saw him shoot. He's certainly especially at 10 at 10th. grade. I mean, he's g Oh my god. And. you're doing a full, you know, you know. what I'm saying? How old are you now? >> 41. >> Oh, he's definitely I mean Oh, >> he said he said he's going to be able to. beat me when I'm 42.

>> Oh, okay. Still hasn't come yet, huh? >> How tall is he? >> Clock is ticking. >> No, it's not. >> How tall is he? >> Uh, probably about my height now. >> Oh, you're screwed. >> Oh, no. It's over. And it's over. All right. Well, good. luck out there. Hey, let Chris know. >> Go on, lad. >> Go on. >> Go on, lad. >> Give them buckets. I love the fact that. you're never going to let him win. either. I mean, it is going to be Yeah. No way. >> Yeah. You're going to foul the hell out.

of him if it gets it gets close. And. that's. >> Damn right. Damn right. Down. >> Yeah. Absolutely. Face guard. Face him. up. Face him up, ladies and gentlemen. P3 face up. Yeah, Chris Bridge. >> He's the man. Chris is awesome. >> Yeah, >> he loves sport. >> Uh-huh. >> He loves the sport of. >> 21 years. That's been. >> 21 years. And still drinking adult. >> He's got youth teams. >> Yeah. >> He's got these youth teams where he's. invested like M I'm going to this. tournament here. Obviously, his son's. playing, but I think this was happening. before as well. I think he's like very. much invested in the future. He was the.

NBA pre uh PA president or whatever. I. mean, he loves ball. >> and these like it's ridiculous like how. good these kids are now. like watching. like when we were coming up eighth. graders you'll see like one or two like. oh wow like you go to these tournaments. or just watch them or even just going to. a pickup and you're like oh yeah it's a. 10th grader he's got a few offers he's. got some D2 offers like these kids are. ridiculous and I can imagine what those. type of tournaments. >> at those games similar body styles. garden similar body styles cuz for. instance when I go play pickup. >> for a large portion of my most recent.

life if I'm playing pickup some reason. uh I'm like you know I'm going to go do. some cardio play basketball I haven't. done this in a long time. I just go. >> I immediately as soon as game's about to. start, I start regretting it. And then I. try to find the laziest looking one on. the other team. Yep. >> And I go right up to them. I go, "Hey, three-point line, three-point line. here." And yep, okay, cool. They'll be. playing four on four. We'll kind of live. our own game here. We'll make shots. Couple of us will make some shots. >> We kind of got an agreement. >> I'm trying to find likebody, like-minded. individ. >> That's been happening, I think, since.

I've been playing Park Basketball. whenever I was growing up and youth. I. think it happens uh when you're playing. just one bucket uh takeback. I think. you're trying to find I mean. >> since the beginning of time like bodied. people are guarding people. >> I mean we have it here, right? This is. the first time really. >> Yes. >> Yeah. This this would be the time that. you could say. >> people are going to judge Chad for this. >> big time. >> People are people are judging brother. People are judging him and Wendy wants. it all cuz when he was 17 years old he.

lost to USA in the [ __ ] worlds. >> Yeah. >> He fought out. Especially if like if. you're not going to take on that. assignment or maybe the coach said, "Hey, you do something else." You got to. be productive outside. Like you got to. have a 25 and 10 type game. But uh to. just [ __ ] the bed and game that's game. one should be a long series. So. >> he's going to he's going to be picking. up full court next game every possession. if we go. >> You think we're. >> He should if he's not considering it. right now, he absolutely should. >> I loved watching Caruso go crazy. He's. in some American Italian American Hall.

of Fame. Remember he won some super. pison award. He he can get going. People. forget he's been in the league a long. time. Yeah. They talk about those goats. I mean, Caruso having a night like that. was fun. That was fun to watch. And then. it got to the point where he knew too he. was almost Steph Curry in that, you. know, and it was like if he missed it. was abnormal. Will he continue to stay. hot? Will they be able to get a dub over. the Aliens? We shall see. On the other. side of the television last night was an. NHL game that went to overtime that was. spectacular in Buffalo. The Blade Gang. and the Sabres fans certainly brought a. lot of Montreal fans. It felt like in.

the barn, but nonetheless, the. environment was crazy. and the Montreal. Canadians have punched their ticket to. the Eastern Conference Finals. Joining. us now is a man who is a quite a homer. for La Habaton, ladies and gentlemen. PK. Suban, >> how are you, buddy? >> I'm great. I'm great. After the big win. last night, couldn't be better. >> Okay. So, a lot of people talk about. nonbiases and stuff like that, but. for Montreal punching their ticket. Tell. me about the pure joy I assume your. entire body felt. You were up there for.

game six. It was obviously a spectacular. environment. We saw the arena packed out. up there in Montreal and it's away game. Obviously, the game's not being played. there. It looks like it is filled as if. it was the game's home. Um, tell me. about this and why this is great for. hockey in your eyes. PK. uh it's amazing for hockey because. there's just so much history in Montreal. and you know we talk about the growth of. the game in the United States and it's. it's exploding you know since the. Olympics and Jack Hughes and all of that. but um you know hockeyy's a religion in. Montreal and when it comes to playoff.

time you can multiply it by a thousand. if it comes to this historic level of. energy that's unmatched and to be a part. of it to witness it I think it's amazing. for the world to see what sports means. to to people uh in Montreal and what the. Canadians mean. But, you know, it's no. different than when you see the Yankees. or any of these other teams. It's just. Montreal, the energy is just a little. bit thicker. The pressure is a little. bit thicker. And, you know, when you're. talking about over a hundred years of.

history and sports and culture and. religion and all of that great stuff in. Quebec, uh it's pretty spectacular to. see in the playoffs what's going on. >> Abu Bans party. Okay. Okay. >> Yeah, that's me and Pierre UD. We like. to say that. >> Hey, and Pat. Pat, you know what? I I. got to say this, too. Uh, Buffalo Sabres. fans, unbelievable. I I you know, it. Yeah, they definitely deserve it. Here. we go. >> Unbelievable.

>> All playoffs. They showed out. They. showed up. Um, you know, it was a long. drought for them getting there, but we. want to see Buffalo back in the. playoffs. Uh, that's a hell of a team, by the way. That is a wagon of a team uh. that's coming and Lindy Ruff did a great. job. Uh I thought all the players on. that team, you know, it's not going to. be on anybody's shoulders. They. competed. This was just a hell of a. series and it went to a team that got. the last shot and you know, Alex New. Hook, Stanley Cup experience, having a. hell of a run right now. Breakout season.

really. But for this group, this is a. special group in Montreal. Also a. special group in Buffalo though. I got. to give them a lot of credit for how. they battled this series. Yeah, it was a. fun debug didn't like us giving them. like the oh sorry you know. >> I'm just saying for him I know that city. is just. >> Boohoo Buffalo they'll be fine. >> they're not called Buffalo. >> I have seen Boohoo Buffalo as well. lately. >> you saw him boast that. >> I'm bullish on Buffalo.

>> you should be boohooish because I. believe the Kleenex is moving their. headquarters up there AS WELL. >> NO. >> THAT'S THE WORD ON THE street. >> with aloe. >> uh-huh it's a good Kleenex. >> It is great. >> I found now that I shave, I can't blow. nose with Kleenex. I use paper towel. >> cuz the little. saw off and I walk out and I just got. all over my face. And with how my energy. levels are immediately that guy's got. cocaine on his face. I just blew my nose. with a Kleenex. I'm so sorry. I shaved.

my face. It's the first time I've ever. done it. These are things I got to think. of. >> Yeah. So, I'm going paper towel. But on. that note, you're talking soft. You're. talking about Kleenex. You're talking. about crying. You're talking about. sympathy, which is what we showed to. Buffalo cuz they're such a good fan. base. But boy, the sports gods. >> Just have not been very kind. >> They poop on. >> But the sports gods were not that kind. to Detroit. And then they sat in that uh. tub of moonshine. Maybe. We're right. Didn't they do that? What was it? >> The curse of Bobby Lane. >> Yeah. What was it? It was a moonshine.

bathtub in whiskey. Yep. >> And they made it all the way to the. >> Yeah. Did you know this, PK? So maybe. No. What? No. Yeah, >> explain that. Explain that. >> The curse of Bobby Lane was around since. the 50s. We And then we had uh Pton. Manning and Jeff Daniels in a bathtub of. whiskey and it abolished the curse. We. won a playoff game for the first time in. my lifetime. >> So on that note, Yeah. So Buffalo might. be doing this right now in their own. way. We know they got a lot of whiskey. We know they got a lot of tables. They. brought in those big ass bison.

>> Yeah. >> That might be the cursed lifter. Wow. >> The bison have come in and scared them. out of there. If they would have had. little tiny baby bisons, that curse. >> Yeah. >> We'll see. >> Typically the football gods don't love. when you fire a coach who wins 12 to 14. games a year, but we'll see. >> We'll see. >> It's a good point. >> All right. Okay. Yeah. Very valid. Okay. Let's stay in the East here. Montreal, your team, that you are not showing any. bias towards at all as you're going. shirtless with their fans before one of. the games. Six. Uh, which is obviously.

great. I'm sure Sabres fans are really. happy to watch that on their television. as their team was continuing to build. And like you, I love the Sabres fans in. Buffalo fans. Hopefully they have. success. I'm also happy for the Kaniacs. down there in Raleigh. That place is. awesome. That place has been. electrifying. Their team has been on a. break for a year. Like people forget. that they even exist right now with. everything going on, not only in the NHL. playoffs, but also the NBA playoffs. Feels like they've been a forgotten. bunch almost. What are your thoughts on. Carolina coming out of this long break?

And how's the match up with Mont Royal? >> Well, in talking at the desk yesterday. night, uh, Messier, you know, had. mentioned about the 11 days off or. whatever time that they had been off uh. before they play their first game and. and he remembered in one of his playoff. runs where they had time off and they. were it it proved to pay off dividends. in the playoff run. Now, I I think it's. a really long wait. Um, but it it is. going to pay off in some ways as as the.

series goes on. But you also run into. the issue of potentially starting the. series late. You know, you can't you. can't mimic two game sevens like. Montreal just went through. You know, the other side of it is, okay, well, Montreal, they've just played two game. sevens. Is this a tired group? Is this a. banged up group? All questions that. we're going to see as the series starts. Well, one thing's for sure. I do believe. that playing in seven two game sevens in. the playoffs in the first two rounds. against the Tampa Bay Lightning and.

obviously the Buffalo Sabres, which are. two teams that have been really really. competitive all year has been great for. this group. You know, Kaden Ghoulie who. made the big play on the first, he's. just rounding out his game. He missed a. lot of time this season. You know, obviously we're seeing the chemistry now. with the depth scoring and Bull Duke and. different players stepping up. Obviously, New Hook is a guy that, you. know, people probably didn't think. offensively would explode this way in. the playoffs, but you still got Demadov. You got Cole uh Cawfield, who's a 50 uh.

goal scorer. This is a group that's. galvanized right now by the energy that. Montreal and the community and the fan. base is providing them right now. They're riding a wave that can't be. mimicked by X's and O's or or even the. players that are that that you can have. on your roster. I think it's the energy. in which they've create the culture that. they've created in that locker room. This is a tight group that believes in. each other and you know they got. outplayed last night for the majority of. that game. Like Pat, it was like very.

similar to team USA and team Canada. It. was the same thing. And like you could. people talk about analytics. I don't. want to hear about the analytics. Take. that and toss it out the window. The. best player on the ice and the most. important player is the goalender. He's. on the ice for the most time. Dovish was. the best player in this series and. that's all they needed. Just like team. USA, Halabuk was the best player on the. ice. Well, they ended up winning the. gold medal. They were outplayed. They. were out uh chanced by team Canada. Same.

thing in this game. Montreal was out. chanced and outplayed, but they had the. best player on the ice and that was. their goalender. So, you know, listen, we call it hockey, but you might you. could call the sport goalending cuz if. you don't have a goalender, you ain't. going anywhere. hockey is a better name, but I do appreciate the metaphor in. everything that you're saying. I I do. appreciate that. He was interviewed. afterwards about something about 40. games and he said, "I have to play. another 40 games." Feels like he is in. his zone. We've seen this before, obviously, whenever it comes to playoff. runs and a goalie going crazy. On that. note, Connor has a quick question for.

you. >> Yeah, PK, to that point with Carolina, the hottest goalie in the playoffs it. felt like was Freddy Anderson, but now. he's been not on his ass, but he hasn't. been playing for about two weeks. Is. there a way to kind of carry that on for. Carolina? Is this kind of like Freddy. Anderson's confident, but he's not as. hot as he was, or how does this entire. thing work when it comes to him and the. Panther or excuse me, the Hurricanes. staying hot? >> Well, a great example is you, you know, and and not to take us out of the. playoffs, but Sydney Crosby goes to the. World Championships to play. And I'm.

saying it again, we know he's a leader. We know that he's all team Canada. He's. all captain and all of that, but it's. also has to do with where he's at in his. career. He's got to keep playing. And I. always think that at this time of the. year when you have those big gaps, the. intensity and the attention, look at. Montreal couldn't break a puck out of. their zone. So if you're sitting off for. 11 days, you're stepping into a. conference final with a team that's been. playing that type of competitive hockey. I think there's got to be an adjustment. period. And the team that's better. prepared for that. You know, right now I.

I like Montreal with their youth and. their energy. These are all young. players. They got a couple veterans, but. these guys are young, right? Demod's. young, Cole Cfield's young, Suzuki's. young, Lane Hudson's young. So, you. know, when I look at that group, I think. they can ride that wave. For Carolina, it's going to be Slavven defensively. Sebastian Ao now is going to get a. little bit more time and space. Remember, this becomes more of a skill a. skill series. So, look out for Aaho. Look out for Seth Jarvis. Yep. Those.

guys I know are going to get some more. ice in this series. So, I look for those. guys to explode. Listen, game one is. going to be tough for Montreal to win. It's going to be a very, very difficult. game for them to win considering the. energy and what they're up against. But, I'm just so looking forward to these. teams getting after it. I really am. >> Okay. Me, too. Let's go to the See, I. like Mont Royal in game one. >> Me. >> Wow. >> Me personally, >> you forgot. >> Maybe. >> Okay. Pat, hold on. Pat,

>> are Jarvis boys going to be there? >> Yeah. Who's doing a Manitoba? Are the. Manitoba boys coming through or. >> I hope so. I hope so. I hope they're. going to be there. I I'd like to think. so. If your buddy's playing in the. conference final, you got to show up. But I have a question for you guys cuz. there's a lot of question marks around. whether Montreal should start Dovish for. game one or rest them and maybe play. another goalender. Now, no way. >> I No. No. Hold on. Well, exactly. That's. what I'm saying. I'm saying no. at this. time of the year, if I'm dobbish, if I'm.

putting myself in his shoes and and. Marty St. Louis for a second, right? I'm. just playing coach for a second. Like, how can you honestly go to your. goalender and say, "Hey, dude. You know. what? Thanks for the first two rounds. We're going to rest you though. We're. going to give this guy the net." Like, I. I don't know how you can do that. So, I. think that Exactly. They got to ride. this wave and you got to play these. guys. They're a young group. This is why. I picked them. Remember, they're only. halfway there. You need to have young. legs to win the Stanley Cup. Just to get.

there, you got to have the young legs. They got the legs to do it. They got the. skill and the talent to do it. They're. up against the probably the best poor. checking team that I've seen in a long. time in the National Hockey League. Those young players and their experience. is going to be put to the test in this. series. That could be the difference, right? That could be the difference. >> Yeah, it could be that. You know, it is. a game of attrition. Who can last? Actually, it just came out that a couple. people from Anaheim had broken necks and. that is the difference of hockey. Uh. Drew Livingstone producing Drew. I guess.

he's go since 2000. Teams that come off. a game seven victory are seven and one. in a series against a team coming off a. sweep. >> That's what I'm saying. >> Wow. >> I think hockey is a rust situation as. opposed to a rest situation. Especially. playoff hockey. I think you're flying. around and these games every other. night. I mean, it is like. >> adrenaline, man. Adrenaline. >> But I'm saying it's like a routine. I I. think the the them sweeping two. straight. It's like long layoff, long. layoff. Now, obviously, they were able. to sweep coming off a sweep. So, maybe.

they're able to handle it more than. everybody else, but you know, you. watched that game last night. It's like, okay, so a team that has just been. trying to do that in practice is going. to have to show up for that. The f I. think the first one is where I think. Carolina maybe gets the skates back. Yeah, I might be completely wrong. I. might be completely wrong. Is there they. haven't lost. I I think you're right, Pat, but there is the one X factor. Carolina has is Rod Brydemore. He's the. kind of coach that may be able to rally. a group of guys who haven't played in 11. days to come out and skate through a. wall for uh 60 minutes and foriacs. I.

mean, they'll do it forc too. I mean, you win. >> But Pat, hold on. Pat, I like for me, my. concern, as someone who obviously wants. to see Montreal win this, my concern is. Montreal sat back for the whole game. like they sat back for three. You cannot. do that. Like, you know, they win the. game last night in overtime on a broken. play and they find a way to get it done, but to me, I look at Tampa Bay and I. look at Buffalo, there were lulls in. those series where the other they just.

tilted the ice on them and and I just, you know, I go back to when I got called. up in the playoffs when Yaruslav Hak. went on that crazy run and and that's. how I see it. You know, he was playing. out of his mind. They're putting his. name on stop signs and we're getting. Mike Cameilli who's scoring every time. he shoots the puck and it's a similar. thing and it's like when I'm watching. hockey I'm like how does this trans. translate and they're just finding ways. to do it. I don't know if you can sit. back and withstand Carolina's forch. check over and over and over again all.

game. So I got to see what Marty St. Louis going to change and what. adjustments he's going to make to get. them out of their zone. They got to come. out of their zone more connected and. playing with the puck. They're just not. going to last in this series if they. don't. >> Excited to see the Carolina Hurricanes. back on the ice and obviously in the. West that tips puck drops tomorrow. Yeah. >> Okay. I can't wait to see the Avalanche. who everybody's saying might be the best. team in the history of hockey. Okay. This team might be the ones Minnesota. was able to obviously get a win in the. series against them, but they would have. come through completely unscathed.

through the playoffs. And they're taking. on a team that's been here before, the. Vegas Golden Knights. Fresh off a news. break, DBU. Yeah, we did have some news. breaks this morning from Pat and I want. you to see the news break. Obviously, you were aware of it. I I want your. reaction cuz you've been a me a member. of the media for a long time. Obviously, you were a player for a long time. What's your thoughts on this? I'm not as. familiar with the NHL draft, but a. second round pick, I'm sure some pretty. great players have come. What's your. thoughts on this? >> Oh, it's it's a massive fine. Listen, a.

second round pick, forget the $100,000. you'll pay that, but a second round. pick, you don't know what that could be. So, that's a valuable pick, especially. with everything in the game now, the cap. and how difficult it is to get young. good prospects. A top pick in the first. or second round is a huge loss. So, I'm. not sure what happened, guys, with with. this and and where this was kind of. confused or misled or what happened, but. but that's a big pick to lose. It is.

That one hurts. Well, PK, I'll keep you. updated on all the NHL news as I become. an insider in this particular league. that we all love so much. You've done a. great job all playoffs. Good luck to you. and the Canadians and maybe we'll see. you soon. You're the best. >> Okay, thanks guys. Thanks, Pat. >> Playboy. >> All right, hour one wraps up. Incredible. hockey, incredible basketball. What will. hour two see? >> Oh, college gambling. >> What? >> What? >> A judge ON THE TAPE?

NO, BABY. SEE YOU ON the other side. >> Well, hello, beautiful. >> The NFL draft experience where we're. about to see one of these eight NFL fan. attempts a $250,000. field goal. What we did was we took all. of your names and we put it into a. randomizer. Okay. Now, eight is a random.

number, but I would like you to see your. names all across the camera to. legitimize. I will press this and one of. you will be randomly selected. $125,000. charity and $125,000 to your pocket. Now, it's not just me doing this. Roger. that he will split it. So, this will. actually be a $500,000.

kick. $250,000 to you. $250,000 to. charity. Now, we wait. Hopped on Greg. from. Pittsburgh. What is the strategy here, Greg? >> Nothing. I'm going to take balls. It's. just Boswell. I've been watching him for. 22 years. I know what you're doing. >> Yeah, you do. Just embody Chris Boswell. >> Hold on one second. Hold on one second.

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the city. Enzo, you can't hold again. You can't hold again. What if we did? One of you represents all of $100,000 to. each of you if the person makes it and. then a match to charity from me and. Roger Goodell. Now you people who are. representing all different teams fan. bases have to decide who will be. representing for you. I'll see you in 30. seconds. They're going to start fighting. each other. They got no chance in me. Now we got a Rams fan WHO MIGHT BE THE. SILENT ASSASSIN COMING OUT OF THE GROUP.

THE TEAM has spoken. If you could remind. the entire world of your name and if you. played soccer before in your life. >> Sam Bailey. No, I didn't. But I picked. high school. Player three foul. >> Oh [ __ ]. >> Congratulations. >> Thank you. >> So happy for you. 600,000 is charity.

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big way. They felt like I was there. Felt like I was having a good time. Taro. crossover Reggie Miller on the call. Felt like everything was perfect and. stupendous. And what we saw was maybe. the next 20 years of the NBA play out in. front of us. Man who's 7 foot five and. can do it all. A man who wants the. moment, lives for the moment, and walks. into Oklahoma City and he says, "Hey, you know what? I'm about sick of the. whole MVP party you're having for. somebody that isn't me." Bonjour sava. ass. poor. That's French.

>> Yep. >> He wasn't the only French person that. had a great time last night. >> No, he wasn't. >> Montreal Canadians, congratulations to. >> Leabatan. out there. They absolutely crush it. Get. a win in overtime in Buffalo. And for. Buffalo Sabres fans and Buffalo people. in general, Buffaloonians, if you will, who we have a very, very high regard. for. >> Yeah. >> Another heartbreak. >> Another heartbreak. >> Just another heartbreak for their sports. fans up there. Their indoor lacrosse. team. Really good.

>> Sure. >> The Buffalo Rockers. You remember them? The uh. >> the Buffalo Soldiers. >> Buffalo Bandits. They still do it. in a buffalo wind. >> Oh no, we're not doing that. Oh my god, that that kind of went too easily. together there because I think if we. were to put a little time into that. particular rhythm, I think we could. think of something for the heartbreak. that Buffalo sports fans have had to. soldier through for sure. And what we.

would like to say to Western New York is. go on fans. >> Good job fans. Remember, winter just. ended. Well, sorry. Winter's about to. end for you guys. >> The sun's coming in like a month or so. >> Come on. Everything's good now. >> New stadium. >> New stadium coming. >> Beautiful. >> It's going to be We didn't close it off, so we can't have winter uh things, you. know, but we'll cover a lot of it. because we want to still experience. Buffalo. The lake life up there is going. to be great. I mean, everything's coming. around corn. The sun will be coming out. in about a month or so up there and then. everything's going to be fantastic. Then.

we're right into football season. >> That's right. >> And then that's going to go good. Jump. right. That's going to go great. >> Still have Josh Allen. >> Yeah, we'll see. >> Last night was an indicator. See a five. and nine's coming probably after that. Last night was an indicator that. everything's about to crash. The old. habits of Buffaloonian sports are about. to end. It's dawning of a new day. We. just had to have our heartbroke one last. time. Game seven, overtime at home. One. that we scratched and clawed our way. back into. And then devastation as the.

French people that are speaking in your. barn get to celebrate all over your. city, their city, and punch their ticket. to the Eastern Conference Finals. This. was the final thing that the. Buffaloonians had to go through this. fall. Whole new era for the. Buffaloonians. Congratulations to you. guys. >> South. things are going good up there for. Montreal. Oh, peace in peace to Southio. is no longer going to be the. >> what? >> The Buffalo Bills kicked his ass to. >> see I don't I don't know if that was the.

case. Let's just say South. >> I didn't know that. Yeah, that's not. true. You got. >> intoxic. one half of THE HAMMER COWBOY. >> DONALD IS EX RIDICULOUS MAN. Best. employee. >> I don't think they're making it up. Ladies and gentlemen joining us. It. doesn't sounds like I missed something. and I don't like it. I can already tell. I don't like it, but I don't want to. keep doing it at all. I would like to. move on from this. Okay. Spaceships.

don't come equipped with rearview. mirrors, they dip. And if we're talking. about what you're talking about right. there, I need to get that behind me and. never talk about that again. I can't. live in that world where Paison isn't. doing his thing on the drums in. >> Didn't say that cuz he may be going on. tour with like Luke Combmes or something. and playing the drums or the peppers. We. Yeah, we don't know where the peppers. exactly. They took his mic. >> The red hot chili ones. >> Yeah. I don't think so. They got a. drummer. I think news on Saturday live. >> All right. Joining us now, ladies and. gentlemen, that might have the answers. actually. College Football National. Champion, Super Bowl champion, Ryder Cup. winner, ladies and gentlemen, AJ Hawk.

>> [ __ ] going on? Have you heard? >> I mean, the only way the only way Styles. is not in Buffalo is he he had to get. recruited away from some giant national. show, I would assume. Right. That's the. only only way he's gone. >> I don't know to be honest. This is all. kind of being being thrown on me pretty. quickly here in. >> He's doing Wheel of Fortune. Is he. taking over for uh Crest? I thought. Wheel of Fortune. I'm pretty sure Bo. told him to get the hell out of town, but again, I'm not sure that's exactly. what happened. >> Okay, we love S. We love Buffaloians. It's hard time right now. We're kind of. piling on, which you didn't want to do. earlier. No, you talked about not.

wanting to pile on, but yeah, I mean, maybe there was a a national gig that. opened up for S. I hope that's case, but. we do know he loves Buffalo. Uh, congrats to Montreal. Uh, let's talk a. little college football news, shall we? Interesting development in the Brendan. Sorsby case. Okay, as you know, Sorsby. has um entered himself into a rehab down. wherever. I don't know where it is. We. assume somewhere in the south, but we're. not 100% sure because of a gambling. addiction that was reported. And then. the uh NCAA found out about Texas Tech.

had already did Texas Tech know whenever. they uh signed him through the transfer. portal as he was the number one. quarterback basically in transfer. portal. Texas Tech has great investment. behind all of its sports including its. football and they pay this money. How. much? It all kind of got thrown on us. quick. There's been an update in the. case. I guess there is a deadline that. has been placed June 22nd or something. like that for the supplemental draft. So, there is a deadline and Texas Tech. quarterback Brennan Sorsby has filed for. an injunction against the NCAA seeking. his colleg's eligibility. It cites a.

wholesale abandonment of its obligations. and duties to promote the well-being of. Sorsby. Now, there was a lot of other. information that was coming out about. the local judge that will be handling. this particular case. It something just. happened down in Old Miss with Trinidad. Chamblas. There was a lot of this too in. Mississippi kind of happened, right? This feels like what the NCAA is most. scared about. >> The NCAA, anytime you listen to him. talk, >> um basically says we can't do anything. because we'll just get sued. Everything. we do, we get sued. So, we need. government to give us power to be able.

to make rulings so that we we don't we. have some sort of say cuz everything we. do, we just basically get sued. Seemingly how Charlie Baker was phrasing. when he was talking to us when we're. asking him about other issues as opposed. to these particular issues that are. currently happening. That is kind of. what's taking place. And this is. happening in a courtroom. Yeah. >> In Leic, Texas, right? Because that's. where he is. Yep. >> Okay. So now obviously everything gets. called into question which is certainly. going to be the conversation but this. does seem like a pretty big precedental. move here for the NCAA and for football. because it feels like and this might.

just be you know narrative building here. by sides which will certainly happen. publicly. I think they're trying to. showcase what is uh possible whenever a. guy's hobby is gambling. Okay. Like this. was this guy's like actual hobby. He was. bet on like Turkish soccer at like 9:00. a.m. like five bucks on it. It felt like this became an actual. addiction, like a thing that he was just. doing on a regular basis. And now. they're trying to figure out or. determine publicly like, should this. guy's football career be ruined because. he was doing all this? And they're like, well, he did bet on Indiana when he was.

on the team. And they were like, well, he's come out and said that it made him. feel more a part of the team because he. wasn't he wasn't doing [ __ ] for the. team. >> They weren't good then. >> Yeah. So he So that was like his angle. coming out. So now it's like an. interesting thing about empathy for the. situation while still having rules that. are from a different time. Wow. We. certainly are going to have a lot more. of these types of situations in the. future. So, we're setting preced. It's a. uh this is a wild case. We'll have. joining us in about 30 minutes or so, but it's a wild case. >> It's a wild situation cuz when you break. it down and think about it, you cannot.

you cannot set the precedent where it's. like where it's okay where you don't. miss time for betting on your own team. Even if it's for them to win, even if. you weren't playing or whatever, you. can't be betting on your own sport. I. think everyone agrees with that just. because of how big betting is now and. how big athletics are now. you just the. whole same sport thing, same team thing, you just can't have it. But then when. they when you get in trouble for it, you. file an injunction against the NCAA. in your in the hometown of where the. college plays and then you get a.

hometown judge. >> Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, WHOA. >> I was stating facts. >> I didn't say that the hometown judge was. a Texas TECH FAN OR ANYTHING. >> I DID NOT SAY ANY of that. >> When they put on the robe, >> Yeah. I learned this from Judge Judy. >> Yeah. >> When you put on the robe, >> you don't think about what football. teams. >> You think about the core law that you. anymore. >> No, you put the robe on, get that gavl. and all of a sudden you are. >> representative of precedent that's about.

to as you should. >> So there ain't going to be any. It seems. like you were. >> I was just stating facts of what the. situation is in this case and and have. been in others. >> We were just about to show maybe a. picture here. We should not do that. until we PM will lead us to that photo. K. We will not do that. >> Is it the judge? >> You don't know. >> We don't know. We don't know anything. They the internet's doing it. A lot of. research happening right now on who's. doing what around here. And all of a. sudden, I've got a little bit of a. change of tune. >> I think Sorsby is going to be good for.

this Texas Tech team this year. >> And I think this is going to be a good. story. I think it's going to be a good. story for others to learn from. Like, hey, >> wow, that's quite the turn. Have you been reading what I'm unless. Pete comes in and tells me something. vastly different. I just I I think. you know a lot of people think like. maybe we're a shallow bunch. You know, people that don't really listen to us, they might think we're a shallow bunch. >> Sure. >> I I don't think that's the case. I think. we just judge things differently. I like. to uh read the humans in the situation.

before. >> anything else. Like when I WMBB last. night, the human, hey, that guy's got to. watch SGAA. That's what I'm worried. I. ain't worried about double teaming SJ as. soon as he gets cross half court. I love. that information from Chris B. The way. I'm viewing it is how humans are going. to act probably just from my I think you. know sociology minor. >> you know and how this whole thing kind. of works and how humans operate and you. know like the. >> just I I think that matters so much more. than we give credit to. >> Oh yeah. So, like immediately upon what.

I'm reading about this situation down. here, I think humans are going to act. like humans here. And I think Sorsby is. going to throw I don't know, maybe 30. touchdown, 40 touchdowns here. >> Maybe good chance. >> Unless Pete Tho comes in and tells me a. little different information than what. I've been reading on the internet. IT. FEELS LIKE, HEY, HEY, he's going to be. down there. >> Does the Does the sheer amount of bets. that he plays does that does that like. that comes into account, right, when. they're making this decision like, hey, this guy obviously when they go back. they find out I don't know how many. thousands of bets he was making, right? Like does it matter? Does that have. anything to do with it? >> Well, I think that is why him checking.

himself in, I believe, to the hey, I got. to break this from me is a big deal, which is probably what they're saying. Are you looking out for the well-being. of the player? Like, I reported myself. basically for having this issue and then. a big thing happen, >> you know? So, that's certainly an angle. >> Yeah, this is a this is a first, right? This is the first we're seeing of. something like this. >> The the thought of this happening is. this happening in Texas Tech Stadium. like the court case. It. >> could be might be. happening. capacity. >> I mean, that's what is Patrick Mahomes.

on the on the stand? >> The judge requested that he shows up in. his pads and uniform and not like a. suit. >> Mahomes is going to be a character. witness. >> cuz this would be precedent setting and. and then let's say they rule four. source. The NCAA appeals that to the. Supreme Court now the Supreme Court here. in this case. Is that kind of how the. whole process would go? I don't know. Anytime courts get involved, it feels. like we got a four or five year process. But then Shaft was reporting because at. the beginning of uh the reporting of. this situation for the supplemental. draft there was a deadline. They're like. end of June needs to happen. Then it. came out the NFL was like nah actually.

>> what we could kind of make it work. We. we don't want to kind of put a deadline. on anything. Then Shfter yesterday comes. back. He's like hey June 22nd actually. is the deadline for the supplemental. draft if they were to do it. It's like. Sorsby would be very very highly soughta. in the supplemental draft streets. Now, there has been precedent by the NFL to. follow NCAA punishments for things that. have happened in college verse what. going to the NFL. I just uh this is. there's a lot on the line here. There. there's a lot on the line and allegedly. we got an answer by June 22nd. I that.

sounds. >> completely abnormal court system, NCAA. presidential thing and we're going to. have an answer in 30 days. >> Apparently. >> Okay. I don't know con man. Yeah. I. don't know if that's going to be the. case, but I'm excited to see how it all. plays out. >> And I also don't know if the 10,000 bets. hurts or helps him because like 10,000. makes it seem like, okay, this is a. genuine problem. This isn't, you know, a. hundred massive massive bets like we've. seen in the past. I believe Calvin. Ridley when he got in trouble. He placed.

like two or three huge bets and they. were parlays, but clearly that wasn't. like a gambling problem. It was more so. like that was where across the line he. is clearly betting on games where he. might have information. he served his. year and he's back and you know it's. great. But with Sorsby it does feel a. little different where it was him on a. bad team losing bets on a bad team and. then also placing like you mentioned you. know Turkish soccer 10,000 plus like. that is a problem. I know Kan Booty.

who's a star for the Patriots now he had. a problem in college and he opened up. about it in a in a players tribute. article and it sounded very similar to. Sorsby. So like you think about that. situation. Booty who, you know, lost a. lot of, you know, potential money, potential, you know, draft stock in his. situation at LSU, didn't ruin his entire. life. He earned his way back and now, you know, he's eligible to hopefully get. a big deal in the NFL. And is that. situation more similar to this? That's. how it feels, at least from the outside.

>> Yeah, just as the tide has turned over. the last couple days, it feels like as. the appeal and dates have been placed in. there. We will certainly continue to. follow along. Pete Ammo will be joining. us in about 15 minutes uh with more on. story. Let's go back to the NBA. Obviously gigantic night last night to. Goliath battle in the Western. Conference. The hype lived up. >> Oh yeah. >> To the game. Ladies and gentlemen, joining us now NBA champion, front of. the program, Iman Shumper. >> Yay. >> Whoa. >> What's up my guys? >> Whoa. Where are you? Where are you at?

>> It's ESPN, baby. You know what I'm. saying? I gotta give you a little shout. out. It's ESPN, baby. I appreciate you. putting that in there behind you for us. Uh, thank you for doing that. You're the. man, Iman. Okay, last night was we. started the show by saying if Adam. Silver was to create a Western. Conference game one in a lab, it would. be last night. Just what's your takeaway. and what is the conversation about the. state of basketball with these two teams. in the West just strictly, but WBY for. what the next 10 years of this? Is this. where we're looking what a special night.

for Hoops? It felt like Iman. >> Um, yeah. Again, this is the matchup. that we were all promised as basketball. fans. Uh the teams don't seem to like. each other. There's chips on shoulders. Uh I don't think Wimby liked seeing uh. SGA hoist up his second MVP trophy. Um I. don't think Wimby took well to them. putting Caruso on him uh toward the end. of the game to be an answer. Uh I just. everything about this matchup, Stefon.

Castle getting the dunk and staring SGA. down. Everything about it entices the. NBA to one, play harder, but for that 48. minutes that we all talk about, we want. them to hate each other. They gave us. that. You know what I'm saying? And as. basketball fans, I think we're all. sitting here with a smile. Uh OKC just. now has to, you know, they're going to. have to go into San one. They're going. to have to take care of home court uh. next game, but they're definitely going. to have to go into San Antonio and steal. one. So, we going to see what they made. of. >> Perkins said something hilarious last. night about sending his kids to them. monks. Okay. Him and his him and his.

wife were talking about sending his kids. to Dem Monks cuz he would like to know. whatever the hell they said to Wemby, but he just seems like a different. creature out there. AJ, go ahead, pal. >> Yeah, he doesn't. And Sharp, I'm. wondering what is this OKC team going to. do, I guess, defensively, you think, in. game two? Are they going to switch it. up? Are we going to see Chad uh on WMY? Like, what are they going to do? >> Oh, we better we better see Chad guard. Wimby. I I'm not sure why Chad wasn't. guarding Wimby. I'm not sure why uh when. the overtimes came, Chad didn't look at. his coach and say, "Hey, man. I love you.

to death." I I get the game plan. That's. my matchup. At some point, you got to. take the challenge cuz you saw in. Wimby's eyes what he was going to do to. the game. He was going to impose his. will on the game. He was going to make. it almost personal at the end. And to. see that and see Chad keep having to. come off the weak side, I thought he put. himself at a disadvantage. What did he. had like seven of the 10 points in uh I. forget what there was something he did. he just absolutely took over. There was. a time late in that game where I thought. plus six and a half we weren't going to.

cover. Okay. There there there was a. little bit of a norally dogs going to. die. >> It was very I was very scared as we were. going there and it turns out seven-point. win for San Antonio. It's like every. narrative that could potentially happen. or every collapse that could have taken. place or when played good, but in the. end the championship pedigree of. Oklahoma City won out at the end. Like. who's going to make shots down the. stretch? It's like this Spurs team. answered every single time. It was. spectacular. And their average age, I. guess 22 and a half. They're like the. youngest in a long time. Your thoughts. on that, Iman? Is that just an old soul.

crew down there because they've been. through so much? Do you think the age. thing does matter whenever you get to a. certain point? You know, I did think. that uh there was a time in this game. that I was going to have to say, "Wow, this is the part where experience takes. over." Uh it was the time at the end. when they had to tie the bucket and SGA. brought the ball to the left side of the. floor off of a Iverson like cut and then. left Wimby in the corner to have to make. the decision on uh would it be a three.

or a layup that they would take. Uh Wimi. stayed in the corner and I felt that. they had figured out some sort of tilt. to keep Wimi at bay to say you have to. make a decision. You're no longer. allowed to play defense and roam. Uh he. likes to play Rover a lot of times where. he's not really guarding anybody. He's. guarding everybody. Anybody that comes. in his vicinity and anybody that's left. open, he does a late contest on with it. being a high contest. Uh I thought OKC. finally pinpointed it and left him in. the corner. and to see uh the Spurs take.

the challenge and just pressure. defensively, get stops, get rebounds at. the end because a lot of those rebounds. just got loose. It was a lot of 50/50. balls. They got all of those. I can't. really point the finger at their age. anymore. I think these are just ballers. These are guys that want to take the. challenge and they're guys that really. don't care that they have the MVP over. there. Can't stress that enough that. when I look at Castle, I look at uh uh. uh uh why can't I think of my other. Dylan Har.

going out there, I just don't see guys. that I don't want to say they're. disrespecting them, but they don't. respect it enough to lay down. They're. saying you're going to have to come beat. us. We have the advantage over here. And. anytime you believe that again to win it. takes a little bit of delusion, they. have it. >> Yeah. And it felt like through the. season they had it as well. You know, you it was like the New England Patriots. having to go up to Foxboro to play the. New England Patriots. You lost the game. before you even got there. The coaches. did, players did, somebody did. And for. this team, Spurs, it feels like they're. pissed off that people view Oklahoma.

City like that as opposed to them. I. love it, man. >> Yeah. >> And I love I love. >> I love too we we we don't talk enough. about just the Spurs organization in. general. The Spurs have been a great. organization for a really long time. You. saying the Patriots really made me think. of that. and hone in on it. Having Pop. around that culture, having I know their. coach uh is a winning coach, but to have. somebody like Pop a a a real pillar in. this basketball world to to be able to.

lend advice, to be able to give guys. encouragement and move the needle along. while the playoffs are going to have. them prepared for these type of moments. in these type of situations. You are. seeing uh counter punches being thrown. by they they seem like veteran guards. It seems like Wimby is a veteran, but I. think a lot of it is the coaching, the. poise, the winning culture that's. around. Having Tim Duncan to lean on, having David Robinson around to lean on. Uh being able to have those. conversations calls for a winning. mentality. >> Coach Mitch Johnson leading the squad.

down there and obviously DAG over there. in Oklahoma City. It has been uh it was. high level basketball. It was fun to. That was. >> that felt like game seven of the finals. Oh yeah. Right there, Western. Conference. Obviously, uh they were. playing without a guy that we know. Well, go ahead, con man. >> Yeah, Shump, no. Dear Fox, that kind of. almost helped them because it gives all. these other guys, the young dudes that. we're talking about, more confidence, more time to kind of get settled in the. conference finals. What is your read on. that? Do you think adding De'Aran Fox. will be kind of simple offense can do.

exactly what they just did, or do you. think that will change things up a bit. just because the depth of OKC is. incredible? And that does seem to be a. huge advantage for them, especially if. each one of these games is going to go. to double triple. who knows quadruple. overtime. >> Well, if I'm OKC and I know that we just. lost without them having De'Arren Fox, I. am scared to death. Um I I I don't think. that it was one of those things where. you say maybe it worked out in our. favor. Uh if you're the Spurs saying it.

worked out in our favor that De'Arren. didn't play, it's like no, they have. been a three-headed monster this whole. time. Sometimes it's two of them that. get off, sometimes all of them get off, sometimes it's one of them that comes up. big. It doesn't really matter. They. rotate. They all play different speeds. and they all do different things. I. think that uh yeah, you had Dylan Harper. in more of a rhythm, but De'Arren Fox. coming back does not change things. It. just forces now Dylan Harper to attack. your second group, which is supposed to. be OKC's better group. But if Dylan. Harper now comes off the bench to attack. that group, it's like, when do you get a.

break and a little bit of time off to to. get your breath together, to get your. your bearings together to actually deal. with Wimi? I'll tell you what, I'm excited to deal. with Wendy Fern. >> A hell of a ball club they put together. I don't think they got hard pressed. >> They changed the rules because of this. ball club. Hey, we're not we're not. doing this stacked ones up again. We're. not we're not doing it. Look what they. got down in San Antonio. And they'll be. able to pay him more cuz they're all. from there, right? >> Well, and like the Duncan old school. thing like they all stayed together when. like Manu, Tony, and him probably could.

have split up. So, if there's any place. where all those guys will stay and take. less money, it's the Spurs. >> And it feels like Webby clear star, but. he's super humble. Yeah. >> The the you know, so everybody else. around him is not going to grow to. resent him, which could potentially. happen in. >> that clip. The whole Yeah, the whole. sideline. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. The boys gassing them up. Hey, we're on the Webby Jet, brother. Let's. go ahead and do it. >> That's always nice, dog. It's always. nice camp it like that. >> Yeah, exactly. Yeah, that's the thing, though. Like, we talked about it as just.

outsiders, non- hoopers. When We Wy got. to San Yeah. I mean, this is awesome. This is gas the boy up, man. Hey, gas up. the jet. >> Kelly Oolen pointing at him. >> Yeah. So, Tom McMahon was uh a special. teams coach for me in uh at the. Indianapolis Colts. He went on to the. Raiders. I I don't think he's there. anymore. He's at the Broncos. Whatever. the case, growing up, he grew up on a. horse farm, okay? And he had an entire. mentality that shaped from his horse. farm. He said basically my only job as a. kid was to feed the stud, okay? Just. make sure this guy, okay, the one that.

we need here is happy. So his entire. narrative is if we have a stud returner, let's do everything we can to make this. guy good. Vinitary, hey, let's just feed. the stud here. Let's just get this out. of the way. San Antonio has gotten to. the point where it's like, hey, >> let's feed the stud here. Let's let WB. kind of be the guy because when he first. got there, kind of OG's around, he's. going to have to prove that he can make. it in the NBA. It's crazy when an. organization just decides like, hey, we're going to go and what that can do. for a guy like what that can do for WBY. as he knows that this is my team. we go.

as I go and the boys are all in. That's. huge for the vibes. Huge for the vibes. >> And when those guys can feed the stud. and then you still have every other. starter scoring in double double figures. and you have a couple guys scoring 20. like yeah, you're going to be tough to. beat if you can continue that. >> Yeah, that's a bunker mentality. It. seems like they got with Alien uh. leading the entire way. Okay, let's go. to the other series. Obviously in the. East that's going to be tipping off this. evening. Go ahead, Debo. >> Yeah, it seems like the Knicks kind of. have a bunker mentality too that they've. tapped into. I want to know kind of what. has clicked in your opinion for them cuz.

over the the playoffs so far 8-2 like. over a 19 point winning margin when they. run away with wins. So what has clicked. with that squad? >> Well, I think that the game plan is now. ruined for the whole NBA that they once. had on the Knicks. We once had this this. narrative and this game plan to say, "Hey, we're just going to pressure. Jaylen Brunson. We're going to make it. really difficult for him. he'll wear. himself out and at the end of the game. if we don't give him an available pass. he'll just dribble dribble dribble and. they'll have to live with the results.

You no longer can do that cuz now. they're giving the ball to Cat and then. it becomes playmaking action. Uh what it. does is it creates less dribbles for. Jaylen Brunson, but you start to see. Jaylen Brunson is actually really good. with cutting off of the ball, especially. when he's aggressive with his cuts. because he now knows he has a willing. passer in Carl Anthony Towns. I think. their three-point shooting goes up. because you now have to sink in. If Cat. gives you a quick shot fake, you now. have to sink in when he makes a drive. and he's spraying out. You got a bunch.

of closeouts, guys are attacking close. out, it makes the game totally different. for them. So, I think that's the biggest. thing that's happened. Uh, Cat becoming. a playmaker now ruins your whole. scouting report. So, if people have a. new tilt that they can do against cat up. there at the top of the key and on the. sideline running that pistol action, if. they have an answer for that, then we'll. start to see new adjustments. But that. once game plan that used to ruin the. Knicks hopes every time it's out the. window. >> Well, and also it feels like they're. playing more players. Having the rest at. this stage is obviously good for the New.

York Knicks. I I mean, what it was like. a year ago, I saw Jaylen Brunson out. over there in New York at the upfronts. Yeah. >> They still haven't played a game since. then. No, was that was a that was a long. time ago. But their big thing against. the Pacers is we ran their asses off the. court. Like basically we just ran them. off court. Wasn't a deep enough roster. I think the body. >> now they're healthy. >> Healthy. OG's back. >> They're healthy. >> And they're rested. I mean, that's a. good place to be if you're you get a. byee basically going into the conference. finals. That had to be dream come true. for you Knicks fans, Bruce.

>> Yeah, it it is unbelievable. Well, it's. like night and day compared to. especially 2024 where Randall was out. and once OG and his hammy went down, it. was like, man, we we actually only have. five guys to play this game seven. against the Pacers at at home. So, yeah, it's a dream scenario. Obviously, everything could get flipped on its head. if you come out slow in in game one and. and let the Cavs steal one here. But, I'm so excited for the matchups across. the board. Spa versus Brunson Burner, of. course. Um, but then on the inside too,

Mobly and Jared Allen, uh, dealing with. Mitch and Cat is going to be an absolute. banger and then we'll see who ends up on. on James Harden in between Bridges OG. and Josh Hart. But I I'm so fired up um. for this series to get started. >> To wrap up this conversation, last. question for you, Iman, from Tai. >> Yeah, Sean. I mean, you mentioned the. rest and obviously that's important, but. like is there any worry that the Knicks. might be a little bit rusty? I mean, we. just saw, you know, the Cavs kind of. have that really physical sevengame. series with the Pistons. Is there any.

way that the Knicks could replicate, you. know, that type of physicality in. practice? Like, is there any concern. there that the Knicks may have just be a. little bit too rusty and the Cavs are. coming in, you know, after a hard-fought. sevename series win, and, you know, they. might have enough firepower to kind of. just stay hot and and go right from. jump. I don't think there's any way to. to mimic uh fully what you have to deal. with when you're dealing with Spider. Mitchell uh scoring in the array of ways. that he scores. Uh he he's got a a full.

pallet as far as what you want to see. out of a score. Um but what I do know is. that the rhythm of Donovan Mitchell and. James Harden might be something to. consider. If they are going to steal a. game, I think it's going to have to be a. game one against the Knicks, which is. going to be tough in itself just having. to play in New York and deal with the. energy of New York right now because I'm. telling you now, I'm here. It's warm. outside and Nick fans. But, uh, coming. with that rhythm and knowing that. they're coming with that rhythm and.

trying to jump on the Knicks early may. be the biggest game plan that they can. go with, uh, if they're the Cavs because. it's already hard to steal one on the. road. But when a team's been sitting for. that long, you try and catch them. sleeping. You catch them if they're. being sluggish or if they're just overly. excited and just come out with a little. too much energy. and you guys are. already settled into a rhythm together. and playing with one another and and. understanding where you can manufacture. points and manufacture offense. I think. they could control pace a little bit. more if they're conscious of it. But. game one is the circled game for the.

Cavs. If they're going to steal one, it's going to have to be now because. once the Knicks get rolling, we've seen. what they could do. >> Did you say an array of ways? That's a. good bar. >> Yeah. An array. >> I mean, he just Donovan I'm He got the. little takeover. Bring it over the top. He He going to shoot it from the. outside. He want to get downhill. He got. the floater game. It's just it's hard to. simulate all of that in practice. Uh I. just would hope that, you know, when the. Knicks do come out, they understand. though he's going to do his scoring, the. key to guarding uh and dealing with the.

Cavs is dealing with James Harden. >> A cluster of buckets from that guy. >> Yeah. >> All over the place. >> That crazy. >> Yeah, it is. It is absurd to see what he. did. I mean, he hit six moves there and. then hit a step back three and old buddy. fell. It's like, good luck. I can't. wait. And then James Harden, huh? >> Yeah. >> Oh, yeah. >> Huh? Maybe starting to come back. >> We'll see. >> Starting to come back. Uh, when you're. seeing James Harden do that and I like. to see him. He's one of those guys. It's. similar to Joel Embiid. When James. Harden is animated, when he's the guy. that you could see it in his eyes and.

he's engaged. He's looking around at his. teammates. He's making them smile. He's. making them feel their confidence ro. Uh, he's a different player. I think. that when you can catch James Harden. with the big eyes and he he's not as. responsive to emotions or big moments in. the game, not as many celebrations or uh. slow-mo walkoff, so to speak, home run. walk-off, so to speak. Uh when he's not. doing that, I don't see him as locked in. as he once was. Uh I love it when I see. James play with emotion, the three-point.

celebrations. Uh it instills confidence. in his team that he has control. >> What does this mean, AJ? What's he doing. when he does this? What does this mean? >> I don't What do you What do you think. he's doing? >> I He said stir fry or something. >> I think it was steak fry in game seven. He was. >> MAYBE TALKING ABOUT THIS. >> HEY, you're the man. We appreciate you, champ. >> Man, I appreciate y'all. >> Ladies and gentlemen, I show him. >> You don't know what this means. What's.

everybody doing? Anybody know? >> They're going to go as cooking, right? >> As far as spider takes him. He has an array of ways to get to the. hoop. >> He's a I know AJ's probably seen him. play in person a few time. I remember. Hulkster got arrested soul and I asked. him about him here dude. >> Yeah, that's exactly what he said. >> You're right. You're right. >> He did like the way he played. >> He did. >> He was wearing KD shoes. >> He was. >> What was your question, man? I see you. wearing Kevin Rich. I didn't know you're. a big NBA fan. >> What a great question.

>> Rest in peace. >> Yeah. Rest in peace, Holster. Joining us. now, ladies and gentlemen, is Amanda. might have a little bit more inside. information on anything. Uh, including. potentially. >> Yeah, hold. >> Uh, what are you doing? Foxy, please. show sitting there. I was like, rest in. peace, dude. >> Yeah, wear this for the rest of the. show. >> Joining us now, I think I think you're. going to have to maybe embody somebody. else pretty soon. Joining us is the. authority of college sports as a whole, certainly of college football from. college game day. Ladies and gentlemen, from what appears to be a very nice.

place. Good for him. He's earned it. He. has no idea he's there. All he is is on. his phone the entire time. Ladies and. gentlemen, Pete Tam. >> Oh, wow. >> Whoa. >> The Big 10 Pat did not hold their annual. meetings at the De Moines airport. Marriott. I can confirm. >> Okay, that is unbel. So, you're at the. Big 10 annual league meeting right now. Is that right? And what's happening. there? I saw you guys are voting on a. punt uh gimmick. Is that what I saw? >> Yeah. So, you could really nerd out on. this, Pat, because I know your affinity. for uh for the nuances of special teams,

and I've learned a ton about special. teams from you. There is a new punt rule. that I actually had a coach explain to. me at the bar using like cups for for. everything, but it's basically an. eligibility tackle guard away from the. long snapper rule, and you're calling it. up there. In order to officiate the way. this rule, which has been passed next. year, like you would have to declare who. your tackle guards that go adjacent to. the the snapper are, and then you'd have. to change their numbers and actually. guys would have zip up jerseys. So, you.

know, you stand outside, I've covered a. lot of league meetings in my life. You. stand outside league meetings, hey, coaches walk out, hey, what happened? What happened? Every coach was like, we. spent 45 minutes on the punt rule and. they were 18 and0 and they hate this new. punt rule. So yeah, you know, being a. diligent diligent journalist, I went to. the the the the punting dow who's Kirk. Ference and asked him about it. yesterday. Kirk Ference said it would be. a clown show, and that is not a man who. is prone to hyperbole. So there was a. movement here to change this obscure, detailed, and I don't fully understand.

it punt rule, but there was there's. conviction of that. So if you want to. peak spring meetings topic, it's uh it's. an obscure punt rule that's in the. crosshairs right now. So stay tuned. We'll see how they talk about it in the. SEC meetings. >> Yeah. Well, I'll be excited to see what. Sanki's thoughts are on uh having a. zipper up new numbers. So, I I think. there is an interesting thing that has. happened. Obviously, the punt formation. in college, most places, like 90% of the. places, vastly different than the NFL. Obviously, the rules between the NFL. punt and the college punt are different. In the NFL, um only two people are.

allowed to leave the line of scrimmage. before ball is punted. Okay? So, ball. that everybody else has to pass set. backwards. Okay? because they're only. two the outside people are the only two. people that are allowed to leave the. line of scrimmage to go cover before the. ball gets punted. Normally about a 2.0. operation time from set. So that's a two. second delay. Only the gunners are able. to go. In college, everybody's allowed. to go. Okay? So everybody's allowed to. leave the line of scrimmage. As soon as. the ball is snapped, it's a wide open. play. Go ahead and do that. So the roll. rugby type uh Aussie rules football type.

punt happens because already got people. down the field. You roll to the right, you kill more time, get the ball on the. ground, you just steal it. Now, some. teams had been putting in their offense, leaving their offensive lineman on the. field, sending in obscure punter number. in there, doing the formation and kind. of a little trickum. Boom, we're not. punting at all. We're doing this kind of. in a disguise punting formation where. there are some rules differences as. opposed to a tight formation. So, it. sounds like there was maybe somebody. somewhere that didn't like the. gimmickiness of potentially what was.

coming. And so, we got to change this, especially with the rule numbers. We. need to let people know. But, it sounds. like the coaches aren't those people. So, who the hell would that be then? How. does this happen? If the coaches are. 100% against it, how does a rule get. anywhere near past who's doing the. ruling? >> So, I was told last night that this rule. change was basically bred from lazy. officials who didn't like having to. officiate the line of scrimmage and how. guys are lined up. The seeds of a good rule change should. not come from officials having a. cumbersome process like you know it's.

not there's a lot of course we know. that's not Vanderbilt our guy he's Big. 12 official they need to have him in the. NFL. It sounds like they need to have. him talking to the Big 10 refs. Okay, let's move away from the punting uh. logistical stuff that you're doing from. Paradise there with the Big 10. Let's. talk about a precedenting. pre precedental case. I think there's. been others in the past though, but this. one feels like uh a real uh boiling.

point potentially for the state of. sports gambling as a society, players on. the field and addiction that could. potentially be helped while also. integrity of the game all kind of coming. into one storyline with a future first. round quarterback that was considered. the number one quarterback in the. transfer portal this year got paid a lot. of money. Okay, so this is a huge. ordeal. We have some developments, Pete. Could you tell us what they are? Because. the way tone was kind of describing this. is like it's going to be Donner Lick. They're going to hold the court case in. the stadium. Uh Cody Campbell is.

actually going to be a part of it. Can. you please tell me a little bit about. what we've learned? And now there is a. deadline I guess again in June 22nd. How. should we expect this kind of to go. because this is a very serious, very. important thing that is kind of. happening right in front of our eyes for. the future of sport. >> Yeah. In terms of onfield storylines, Pat, I don't think there's a bigger one. than the status and eligibility of. Brendan Sorsby between now and when he'd. have to declare for the supplemental. draft. He's a he was the number one. player in the transfer portal. He's a. top 10 player in the sport. He's a.

potential first round pick. He could be. a potential high supplemental NFL draft. pick if if he does go that way. But. essentially what happened yesterday was. Sorsby's legal team filed a lawsuit. against the NCAA for a preliminary and. then permanent injunction which would. allow him to play this year. And. essentially to there was a lot of legal. lease in those documents yesterday to. distill this to what it is is the NCA. actually hasn't declared anything about. Brendan Sorsby yet. Tech has ruled him. ineligible and then he would have to go. through an intricate reinstatement. process by the book. If you look at what.

the punishment would be for what Brendan. Sorsby has admitted to do, he would not. be able to play college football ever. again. Like period. So what his team is. doing now is looking for clarity from. the NCAA. They offered in the legal. documents, they said they offered a. two-game suspension. He would come back. He would become the face of mental. health for gambling. He would be an. advocate. He would go talk about this. And they they essentially pitched the. NCAA on allowing Brennan Sorsby to. return and having him become the face of.

addictive sports gambling in the. country, which is a very serious problem. amongst young people. The NCA has. rejected that. The tenor of the NCA. statement in response to this lawsuit. yesterday indicated basically like. they're going to they are going to run. this out. They said look we haven't even. ruled anything yet and you know they. made it very clear that the integrity of. the game as you have said many times Pat. you and Da like it's it's critical right. it's the most important thing. fundamentally to athletics as we know it. the integrity of the game. So I what.

Sorsy's legal team appears to want to be. doing with this lawsuit is getting. clarity. Will he be able to play? Will. he not be able to play? They need to So, it's a June 15th hearing is what they. asked for in love and he would have to. declare for the supplemental draft the. legal documents say by June 22nd. Yeah. You see Adam obviously amplified uh. amplified that notion of it. So. essentially if you if you if you cut. through the legal ease it is a it is an. attempt for clarity for decisionm moving.

forward for Brendan Sorsby. Um it would. be fascinating. Can you please explain. about where this court case will be? This is this will happen in Leach, Texas. And the NCAA would travel down. there and Sorsby and his team, which has. already pitched a resolution, would once. again do that to the judge and say, "Hey, isn't this a fair thing, don't we. all think?" And then the NCAA would be. forced in that moment by the judge or. themselves as they're declaring whatever. to make a decision on whether or not. that's right. That's what they're trying. to do here.

So the the injunction is pretty simple. and clear what they want. They basically. want to say that the NCA should have no. jurisdiction over ruling on Brendan. Sorsby and he would be eligible to play. Now you you are right Pat that that this. is this is unprecedented for a gambling. case. We've seen this with Trinidad. Chamblas and we've seen it started. actually in West Virginia with with. eligibility like we have seen judges. come in and declare and declare folks. ineligible. Yeah. West Virginia actually. basketball started this whole trend of. being able to go to court in and getting.

in and getting extra years. The the. difference is those were sort of pure. eligibility plays be they medical red. shirts or red shirts or time you know. time in school. This this case is. drastically different because it is. under the the guise of gambling which. had been a fairly black and white issue. Um, you know, think about Jameson. Williams in the NFL, right? Like he he. bet in the facility and he was. immediately suspended. And there's been. others. That one just kind of comes to. mind first. And there was case Iowa Iowa. State a few years back where the the. guys who were caught gambling were.

punished severely. So if the NCAA were. to, and we have no indication they're. going to yet, but if they were to sort. of negotiate something, which would be a. departure from how they normally operate. in their enforcement process, that would. clearly be a drastic change from how. they've operated in the past. I'm not. saying they will or won't do it. It it. would just be a departure. I think I've. said this on your show for Brendan. Sorsby to play college football in 2026, something seismic would have to happen. because if he just like played out his. NCA case, you know, the president would. tell us he doesn't have much of a.

chance. So, is an injunction that. seismic? How would the NCA, the Big 12, and others respond to that injunction? Could they do anything legally? Like in. the Chamblas case for example in in. other eligibility cases the judges have. made clear like you cannot you know you. cannot put any barriers to this is this. is I am ruling this and this is what's. going to happen. Will that happen in in. Levik Texas? It's probably a little too. early to uh to say but certainly there. is a home game element of this. They. didn't file it in you know state court. in Dallas, right? So I mean I I do think.

there's some there is some well well. marked cynicism there. >> Do we know who the judge would be at. this point? Like the internet's posting. photos of the judge. We don't want TO. PUT IT UP. OH, WOW. WHOA. IS THAT THE. JUDGE? Do we know if that's the judge? >> I have not done the the judge leg work. If I'm if I'm being very trust that is. not real. >> If if any of the judges were ahead what. you're saying. >> If any of the judges were not Texas Tech. graduates, I'd be pretty surprised in.

love. Just like if this was in. Birmingham, they'd all probably, you. know, there'd be a lot of Alabama. judges. And if it was, you know, you can. you could just pick the state in the in. the area. Yeah, they could. I Yeah, I. don't know. U has a law school. Uh I. think they have a med school. Um. >> actually, you're wrong. The doctors. Yes. You need a surgery down there. Yeah, maybe. We're going to law though, pal. That's Alabama. >> Just going to double check. >> A kid from Plum actually graduated from. Alabama. Dallas. >> law. He's He's. >> a pizza maker. >> Yep. A baby boy. >> Alabama's going to We appreciate you.

Good luck out there in paradise. Lava. table. something shyic would have to take place. for him to be able to play. Shores's. case is certainly a quagmire for a lot. of parties. >> It is. How about him? >> Wouldn't the seismic thing be sorry? Wouldn't it it's kind of seismic that. the the judge could possibly be doing. the old doing the old celebration with. the mascot of the team that the player. >> eligible for. I'm not saying that's. real, but that would be quite shymick, wouldn't it? That was the case. >> That would be Shymic. I do believe that. would be Shymic. Let's pivot away from.

Shymic moves in a courtroom for Brendan. Shoresby, which is potentially a NFL. supplemental draft guy as well. We have. no idea what his future holds. What we. do know is the future is very bright for. a man that's about to join us. This. guy's an American hero. Okay. We saw. him. >> Yep. >> Guy ate a stick. Yeah. Lost his teeth, came back, beat Canada, gave us all a. gold medal. Thank God we have this man. New Jerseys devil star and also hockey.

legend forever, Jackie Hughes. >> Look at THOSE TEETH. P. WOW. >> WE'RE BACK. >> Holy hell. Where'd you get those? >> We're back, boys. Out of spot in New. York. We're back. We're back in action. >> Did you have to make a lot of decisions. on what the new mouth looks like? Did. you think about uh Did you think about. potentially drawing in what it did look. like? like maybe get a tattoo on your. teeth so that we can always remember it. Uh what a moment. Thank you for. everything. Congrats on the new teeth.

How's the offseason going? Cuz obviously. the Olympics was right in the middle of. your season. We talked to you just a. couple days after the gold medal win at. the combine and you were coming from a. game already and you were heading to. another game. You never really got to. settle in. Have you gotten a chance to. look back on the incredible run that. this year was for you and where you at. right now in life if you will, Jack. Hughes? >> Yeah. um just been, you know, obviously. with how everything happened happened so. fast and then um now has been a great. time just to, you know, debrief it all.

and just hang out and enjoy my life. So. um after the season, you know, it's a. good time to just get away, I feel like, and um and debrief. >> I like you're a wire guy. >> Yep. >> Wire trying to save the save the brain. >> Yeah, he'll eat. >> I fell for that trap, boys. didn't fall. for that trap. AJ's got the Bluetooth. on. Well, >> Aaron's been telling me that for years. >> Jack, you're the best. How old are you. again, Jack?

>> Just turned 25. >> Okay. So, the future of the league is. obviously very bright. Whenever you're. watching these playoffs, are you keeping. up with the playoffs from your enjoyment. of life right now? Yes. >> Yeah, I'm keeping up pretty good. And um. was watching, you know, obviously all. the games in Minnesota mostly cuz uh. Quinn just got knocked out. But feel. like when I'm like sitting at home and. the game's on, I feel bad if I'm not. watching it cuz, you know, as a fan, like I do love watching the game. And um. obviously the playoffs are the best. >> Okay, so let's talk about hockey showing.

up in a big way. Last night, game seven, huge. So I don't know if you know this. NBA game seven, the night before in. Detroit, Cleveland Cavaliers just beat. the hell out of the Pistons for. >> I saw it. It was like a 40 point 40. point game, right? >> Yeah. Yeah. He This guy living can't pay. attention to much, but he saw the. Pistons. >> He's from Michigan. and he had to watch. it. >> Oh, ruined game seven though. Like in. our minds, oh no, maybe game sevens. aren't real. You know, that's what we. start thinking to ourselves. Have we. been lying about what game sevens are. because of how lackluster that one was? And then all of a sudden last night in.

Buffalo, the Canadians show up, it goes. to overtime. 20 22 overtime game winner. it just whenever you're in one of these. moments or you see one of these moments. and you see how fast hockey is growing. in the United States of America a lot. because of what the Olympics did it make. you pumped about the state of the league. right now if you will cuz I would say a. lot of people. >> I mean honestly the first thing the. first thing I take from you know just. even that whole series but I mean that. crowd in Buffalo is incredible right you. know like I think that place was off the.

hook they were down what two nothing. early and then when they got that first. one and then when Dollian scored you. know, the roof kind of popped off. So, the crowds were make it so special and. then on top of that, you know, guys are. giving 110% every night and it's sick. Like, if you watch that goal, the. celebration is right um beside the. penalty box camera and you can hear the. guys in the huddle like how happy they. sound that one won in overtime and it's. like just a bunch of boys getting after. it and they're so fired up. Their their.

season's still going on. >> Love that the lads. >> You'll see it. You'll see it on the si. when they get going. You got to listen. to them. It's It's just sick. >> Do we have sound? >> WINS GAME SEVEN. >> Alice New Hook. >> That's sick. They're so fired up to keep. it moving, you know. >> Yeah, cuz you can really tell in there. That's like for our sport whenever we. watch Mike Dups and obviously they're so. heavily edited. We try to see. interactions to see if the team actually.

likes each other. What you're saying, you saw right there is like the lads are. super excited to still be playing hockey. with each other is very obvious. >> Well, it's just like yeah, boys are. moving on. Let's go. Like on we go. And. that's sick. Like that their season. keeps going and obviously they're so. excited. I'm sure the miked up in. football can't be that good cuz you know. they got to blur out everything pretty. much pretty much the same in hockey, too. >> Yeah. The league kind of kind of. decides, you know, what we're going to. see, what we're not going to see. For. you guys, it's been pretty tight for a. long time. Feels like hockeyy's having a. massive explosion. Hey, how come away.

games aren't a real thing for you guys? PK came on our show because we're. talking about Montreal's barn. We're. talking about Buffalo's barn and. obviously Colorado is going to go crazy. in Vegas. We've been a part of that. entire situation. We asked PK were like, "Hey, how do you how do they handle. going into these places and everything?". Stats and PK were like, "Nah, these. lads, no, they don't care about. anything. They just go in there and they. play hockey." And then obviously that's. Montreal winning on the road and Buffalo. won on the road. The stats have been. saying that the road teams are having. more success. Why is that? Are you guys. just like serial killer mindset? Do you.

feed off of the energy from the other. team? Why do you think that has kind of. become the case? >> I don't know. I think it's hard to say. You know, it depends on each series, each team. Um I mean Montreal, you got. to, you know, every road team that goes. into Montreal is so juiced up cuz the. Bell Center is a unbelievable. atmosphere. So, um I mean it'll be. interesting. Like Montreal is a good. example. Carolina's probably the hardest. rink to play in just with the fans and. the way they play. And uh you know, Montreal's a good exciting young team.

and obviously their arena rocks pretty. good. So that'll be a fun series. And. then I don't know, Colorado uh Vegas is. going to be a dog fight, too. >> Dude, the Caniacs are going to be so. pumped to hear what you just said. Hey, they're going to be so. >> Yeah. Like I I really do hate to give. them that, but it is a rocking spot. And. you know, they get after it in that. building. >> Yeah. And old buddy's friends from. Manitoba are down there. >> Jary's boys from Manitoba are going. absolutely bananas in there. Go ahead, AJ. >> Yeah, Jack, I'm just curious you. yourself personally, what's it been.

like? I guess we saw you, I don't know, 3, four, or five days after you win the. gold medal and it was all it all was all. happening so quickly. You go right back. into your regular season, I guess. What. was the rest of the season like for you. playing all those games after that? And. then what's it like now? Is is your life. different than it was say 6 months ago? Yeah, I mean it's that was the best. thing for me is just playing because um. you know it was the only real time I had. you know unconnected you could say where. I was just solely with my thoughts and. I'm working on my game and trying to you.

know perform. Um every other time you're. like your phone's around or you're. talking to people and you're not just. you know having that quiet time for. yourself. So, especially with how fast. everything came, that was best thing for. me is just keep playing. And now, obviously, it's pretty fun in the off. season, can hang your hat on that for a. little while. And, um, just, you know, I've met so many people that are so. happy and proud of us. And, you know, you get all the. >> all the good stuff. So, not many. >> Yeah. Yeah. American. It's been good to.

be an American hero. Uh, Sports Center. is next. We'll continue digitally. Okay. Great out by you. I don't know if you. saw the clock. I assume you did with. your awareness because of who you are. and you're [ __ ] Jack Hughes. I heard. I assume you saw that. Great work there. on giving a real answer while getting. out of the way here as we send it to. Sports Center. Show still continues. right now on YouTube. Uh X Disney Plus, ESPN Plus. We're just off ESPN linear. Okay. So, what you just did there, professional TV stuff. >> I I zoned out for you boys. >> You did great. You did some professional.

TV [ __ ] especially with those bright. white choppers, too. You know, cuz we. could see every word that's coming out. there. You know what I mean? We can kind. of see it. And I appreciate your uh. transparent about like Yeah, life is. pretty good as an American hero. I've. I've been coming to learn. I mean, it is. a. >> You said it, Pat. You said it. >> All right, we got some questions for. you. We appreciate you taking time out. of your life. Go ahead, Debbie. >> Jack, when do you start ramping back up, I guess, physically? Obviously, you're. taking time. You talk about debriefing.

I know you guys put your body, especially this season for you. When do. you start ramping things back up and. getting back on the skates? Yeah, like I'm working out already just. because, you know, we're pushing our. body to the max all year and then you go. two weeks of not moving really and you. get stir crazy. So, um, we're moving, but getting skating probably middle of. June, um, Julyish. You know, I I'm a guy. that when I get going, I want to be. hungry, you know? I want to like be. ready to roll and I'm like cuz then when.

I start, I won't stop. So, um, I don't. want to just like go out there to do it. to do it. I want to, you know, be fresh. and when I'm really ready to start and. I'm ready to get after it. >> What is getting after it? Are we going. blue line to blue line? Do sprints every. day? Are we on ponds? No. >> What are we doing? >> Is that Is that how it works in your. head? That's what you think we're just. bag skiing all? >> I do. I think you guys are getting out. there. >> I think you're out there and I think. you're even doing like the the Olympic. sprinter [ __ ] toe thing. And I think. you guys are just 4:30 a.m.

>> explosion around and then he stopped. >> That's actually exactly what we do. Yeah, that's that's it. >> I'll tell you, I would never be able to. accomplish that. You and the wrestlers, you guys are the wrestlers. I'm [ __ ]. [ __ ] that the wrestlers in high school. just wearing garbage bags [ __ ]. walking home. We got cars, boys. We got. rides home if we want. They're doing. that. And then you guys early morning. skates. Just a nightmare situation. You're young, though, so you can still. feel it. You know, you're you're you're. still young out there. You know, you're. a young lad living great life right now.

A great life right now. Think about him. saying, "I want to get back hungry in. there.". >> Yeah. >> Listen, I'm going to live a little here. >> There's plenty of time for that. >> Okay? And when that ice comes calling, which it will, I will be 100% [ __ ]. ready for it. Obviously, a lot of great. hockey happening right now. We assume. you're enjoying that, especially with. the family recently exiting. Go ahead, con man. Yeah, Jackie, you mentioned. watching Quinn and it was unbelievable. watching him for us, you know, let him. know that job well done even though they. fell a little short against the.

Avalanche, but with the Avalanche, uh, what is their deal? Why are they so. good? Do they just have more nail guns. than everybody else? Do they have the. most skill? Are they just they turn. everybody into squids as soon as, you. know, they step on the ice against the. other team? Like, what is the situation? And should we just assume they are going. to go all the way and hoist the cup? Um, yeah. I mean, they obviously have a. special team this year. I think Nate. McKinnon is, >> you know, he's on another level. He's. been on another level the last bunch of.

years. Um, and when you have a guy. carrying the mail like him, you know, it. drives your team up the mountain. And on. top of that, you know, Marage, Nelson, Cadri, they're just a crazy deep team. I. think, >> um, they had 16 guys that scored in the. second round for them off their off. their team. So when you have 16 guys. chipping in, you know, obviously. everyone's doing their thing and but. when you have 16 guys scoring goals, getting on the score sheet, just, you. know, it shows how deep you are and um I. think they just do a good job of rolling.

teams over. They're so fast. Obviously, they're a confident team. And, you know, they're driven by great players, but. just an extremely deep uh deep roster, too. >> Carrying the mail out there. These nail. guns just kind of do the. >> Hell yeah. >> Yeah. Squids don't really carry the mail. much. That seems like kind of the. problem. the mail gets kind of left. behind like the old days. Your your. brother was doing some real [ __ ] out. there. It felt like your brother was. driving the game. >> Hey, it was fun. >> That's the thing though. Yeah, I mean. that whole division was on another level. this year. I think you know three of.

maybe the four best teams in the league. could have been out of that division uh. with Dallas, Minnesota, and Colorado. So, just a a dog fight for them getting. out of that, you know, first two rounds. firstly and now they got Vegas, another, you know, unreal team. Hey, your brother's funny. He's [ __ ]. unbelievable. Watch him skate around. I. mean, he's like. >> skate in circles. >> The skating is outrageous, obviously. I. I don't know how. Oh, >> he's a complete beast. And I think he. was playing like 31 minutes a night. Like, he's he's a beast. One of the best.

in the league for a reason. But, you. know, just as a fan, like I went to. Minnesota for two games and I had so. much fun just watching him um do his. thing. So, he's, you know, one of the. most fun guys to watch, I think, in the. league. Yeah, definitely. I mean, that. [ __ ] back skating [ __ ]. >> Yeah, we're coming in Jersey. >> Well said. That's how we say it, too. The back skating stuff. >> Thank you. I feel like I am kind of. maybe becoming a nail gun this entire. [ __ ] thing, you know? I'm trying. This is Is this the one? Yeah.

>> Heat. There it is. Go ahead and back. that [ __ ] up. See? Yeah. He does whatever he wants to. do. >> Yeah. And also immediately afterwards, we'll go Hey, >> one more of these. >> Another one. And when I'm done with this. one, >> when I'm done with this one, >> yeah, another one. >> We'd like another one to be replaced in. here, too. Okay. The boys just did. something sweet. We'd like to celebrate. >> That's why I think we love the hockey. culture so much. We appreciate the [ __ ]. out of you, Jack. Keep living your life, buddy. We'll talk to you soon. >> Thanks, Pat. >> No problem, man. Hey, you. >> All right. >> Your whole life super public. How's that.

going? Good. >> Yeah, it's going okay. Yeah, >> this guy. What a nail gun. Congratulations, ladies and gentlemen, Jack. What a [ __ ] life. I will say it and. this is it was never it's nowhere near. negative. This is a positive. >> Okay. Okay. >> Jack Hughes was supposed to be on the. show about 10 times.

>> and they. sorry can't say hey he's got that we got. this we got that. It's like Jack [ __ ]. go do that legit to hear him legit. actually. And then the Olympics happen. and then he's right back into the. season. Yep. And it's like, all right, yeah, now you got to carry the torch of. America every single night, so let's go. ahead and do well. And then the season. ends, obviously not the way that he or. the New Jersey Devils had wanted it. Not. that it would have mattered here with. what's going on in the playoffs, it. seems like, but and then you finally get. a chance like sit down and somebody. comes up to you like, "Hi, my name is.

whoever. Congrats on what you did there." He's. like, "Oh, thanks. You were watching?". Yeah, we're all watching. Why don't you. come this way? We got [ __ ] every. opportunity in the world for you right. here. We've been waiting on. It's like. that's exactly what he should be doing. But it has been funny to kind of watch. like new American hero and kind of like. from outside in. Very outside like. watching it kind of happen. It's like. good for him. Great for hockey if he. becomes super super face of this entire. thing. >> Yep. Yeah. >> New new teeth too.

>> Looks good. Kid looks good. >> Good tan. New teeth. >> Her team USA could use him right now. He. only placing the big ones. >> Yeah. >> Well, they say these ones are the big. ones because these are the ones that. Sydney Crosby made the big ones. >> And I don't know if you know this, the. Canadians are taking a whole [ __ ]. victory lap right now. >> I was going to say, well, he's not even. the captain. >> Just said he had four apples. That was. all. >> Well, that's cuz Mlin player of the. game, >> the prince that was promised. >> Who cares? We're talking about the. Stanley Cups going on right now. World. Championships. You mean where the losers.

in the playoffs go to play? Okay. >> Matthew Kach playing or No. How many. Bruins are in there? >> I don't know. Hopefully [ __ ] none. Hopefully they're all together. practicing as one. I actually do believe. Jimbo Hagens is. lower. There's a few. There's a few. Fraser Minton. >> I like that they they do like they care. like this. There was some [ __ ] where. they're all lined up getting [ __ ]. player of the game thing that it feels. like. >> [ __ ] being doing this after 20 years. Whatever. >> And his dad's there.

>> Crazy. >> His dad's there. Why? It feels like the. world championship if you grow up in. that hockey culture. It does become. something that really matters and if not. since trying to make it matter. Is this. how everybody has acted from Canada with. these world championships? Gumpy. >> Yeah, it's kind of well known. If you. can't play, you do go play. All the. legends try and get there if they can. >> And Sydney Crosby's just like making. sure everybody understands that this is. how this goes. Hey, next generation like. we play in this if we have to. Even if. you're 55 years old like I am. >> Gumps. Is that what happens?

>> Yeah, absolutely. And that. >> you were and no gumps. You You rub this. >> I thought you thought I thought you were. making that statement. I just said he. had four apples. But I digress. He He. didn't want to be captain. That was a. false report. That was bad reporting. there. And I'm glad you're an insider. now because I don't think that would. have happened if you reported the news. >> Not under my watch. >> Yeah. He he gave up the captaincy cuz he. went late and everyone didn't know that. he was going. >> He loves Mlin. >> Yes. >> Yeah. Well, he didn't want to step on. any toes. But then Mlin also said like, >> "No, it should be captain." And uh the. equipment manager was like, "I can.

definitely switch easy. >> I can easily. if you want." And Sid said, "No, >> I think he knows he's the next one.". >> This shit's dumb. Okay. I would trade a. 100red world championships for one. Olympic gold medal. So that's kind of. how you know it's dumb. >> Yeah. >> Listen to me, American football fan. >> I know. I freaking know. >> Let's talk about American football.

Jacobe Brassette. not at first VOLUNTARY OTAAS. >> PAY THAT MAN. >> You're right. >> Aaron Rogers at first voluntary for. Pittsburgh Steelers. What was stealing. all the conversation? Aaron. What was. nobody nationally really talking about. at all? Jacobe Brassette starting. quarterback for the Arizona Cardinals. I. believe is getting less money than. >> maybe Carson Beck is getting as like a. third round draft pick for. >> fourth round or fifth round draft pick,

whatever it is. Jacobe Brassett's deal, I guess, is nowhere near what a. quarterback that would be starting games. in the NFL would be. And Jacobe. Brassette allegedly, I mean, I guess the. absence here would be able to describe. it a little bit more accurately. Allegedly looking for a little bit of a. pay boost here. If you're going to want%. >> Yeah. if you're going to want me to be a. quarterback here for the Arizona. Cardinals, you guys didn't really. address the fact you don't bring a a. vet. Who is Carson going to be your. starting quarterback? Is that how you're. going to do this entire thing? Or are. you going to give me a little bit of. money, make this a little bit fair as we.

guide into this new era in Arizona? We. happen to have a very close source in. Arizona who's a color commentator for. them who might be able to give us a. little bit more color commentary on the. situation with Jacobe Brassette and the. Arizona Cardinals. Ladies and gentlemen, AQ Shipley. >> AQ, I appreciate you coming to us live. from. >> here. >> You're left. >> There it is. >> Yeah. >> No, left. There. >> There it is. >> Mike Tico was able to figure it out. Okay. It was his second time on the. show. I think you'll be able to do it as. well. Jacobe Brassette. Okay. In this.

situation, looking for more money from. the Arizona Cardinals as he is probably. going to be the starting quarterback for. the Arizona Cardinals. As a person that. was around this Cardinals team last year. whenever Jacobe got brought in there, obviously not a lot of wins. Okay. There. wasn't a lot of wins for this Arizona. Cardinals team, but it felt like Jacobe. was highly respected around a locker. room. How are you guys viewing this. right now as a city over there? And what. do you think is going to inevitably. happen around Jacobe Brassette? AQ. >> Yeah, the draft just happened, so. obviously everybody's excited about. Carson Beck.

But listen, he's the guy. Jacobe. Brassette is the guy. The minute that he. went into the game last year in place of. Kyler Murray, he injected a new energy. into this offense and they started to. look like an efficient offense. Early it. was just Kyler was just playing backyard. football just trying to get it to two. guys. It was Marvin Harrison Jr. or Trey. McBride. And the minute that he stepped. in, you saw an efficient offense take. over. You saw them start to move the.

ball. You saw Michael Wilson start to. take off and become really the number. one. And now you started to see all. these different guys, different pieces. of the puzzle. As you know, with a play, it can go to five different guys, four. different guys. It's not just two guys. So whenever you saw him running the play. action pass, back foot, hit the ground, ball out on time to numerous different. people. All of a sudden, it was like, okay, that's what an offense is supposed. to look like. And that team fell in love. with Jacobe in the locker room. >> He is currently set to earn $5.4 $4.

million this season with another 2. million of playing time incentives. available. So if he's a starting. quarterback let's assume that's $7.4. million. Spotrak saying about4 million. off about4 million off there. Unbelievable treatment of Jacobe here. from spot track who we have massive. respect for. I wanted Jacobe to win an. MVP whenever he was starting for the. Colts. Now that was like six. quarterbacks ago for us. But I think. Jacobe Parcels I believe is one of his. mentors. Obviously comes up through Bill. Bich Tom Brady era. I think everybody uh.

describes him as an incredible leader. Obviously, the team likes him. You're. saying this guy understands what's going. on in every single play. How do you. think this ends up working out? You. think the Cardinals end up giving him a. pay boost in this new floor era or do. you think they cut bait and start brand. new with everything out there? They lost. the schedule release allegedly, >> they lost the draft, team's ass. Everybody says that they're ass and. everything. Would you want a veteran. quarterback to be leading the way or do. they potentially just think about moving. forward? How do you kind of see what. Arizona does here? I mean, listen, you.

can't sit here and and win three games. again. So, if you think that Jacob is. the best option to get you to at least. improve, we got to see improvement. We. got to go this way. You got a new coach, you went and got a guy from the McVey. Shanahan world that you're expecting. that you can do more with less, right? So, they obviously can't put together. the full conglomerate of talent and. roster that they want because of what. they're paying a guy in Minnesota right. now. So, you have to take what you can.

You got to give this guy a little bit of. a pay bump. I think it speaks volumes. what he did last year. Michael Wilson. had 50 yards receiving in the first five. or six weeks of the season. He takes. over at quarterback and all of a sudden. he's a thousand yard receiver and and a. budding star. >> 23 touchdowns, eight interceptions in 14. games for Jacobe Brassette last year. >> He played he played 14 games. >> Yeah. and McBride, you know, if you look. at his numbers with Kyler, I know what. they lost a lot of games. >> I mean,

>> game started twice. >> Yeah, but listen, here's the deal. Whenever Whenever Kyler was in at. quarterback, everything was. >> get the ball out quick or try and play. backyard and eventually maybe get it. downfield. When he took over at. quarterback, the ball got pushed down. the field. Whether it was to McBride, whether it was to Wilson, or whether it. was to Marvin Harrison Jr., We were done. with this quick little short game and we. were done with the. >> Okay, so this is the color commentator. sick of what the other Hey, listen. We. won three games, but at least it was a. [ __ ] NFL offense.

>> NFL offense. >> That's what he's saying right now. That. and he's thinking that maybe Jacobe gets. another opportunity at this thing with a. new coach. But on that note, Debo has a. question. >> Yeah, McBride talked about his career. year, not only with touchdowns, but. every game he had at least five catches. for I don't know what streak he was on. But how does it how does Jacob's game. fit into this new offense? Obviously, they went and got Jeremiah Love, who I. think was the best player in the draft. You think Marvin Harrison, maybe he. takes a step this year, but how does he. look in this offense as fit as far as. fitwise?

>> Yeah, I think uh I think going with. Jacobe first, right? I think he fits. this offense well because it's a timing. offense. I think that's what West Coast. offenses are. When you look at. Shanahan's offense, when you look at. McVeyy's offense, when you watch Matthew. Stafford play or Brock Perie play, it's. one, two, three, four, five. Back foot. hits the ground, balls out to a spot, right? It's the same thing. Matthew. Stafford's looking at the sideline. thrown over the middle because he knows. the timing of where it's supposed to be, right? And so, when you think about. that, Jacobe Brassett's not going to.

extend plays. He's not going to run the. football. He's a pocket passer. And I. think if you can get him in a timing. rhythm and get the ball out like that. play right there, that's exactly who he. is. He's good at the play action. He's. good at sitting in a pocket and letting. his back foot at the ground and letting. that thing go down the middle of the. field. >> People are saying, I saw a tweet had a. lot of views saying Jacobe Brassette. holding the Arizona Cardinals hostage. has to be the worst for Arizona. >> Yeah, it's the sign of the end. Yeah, >> but I don't think he's holding him. hostage. I think he's saying, "Hey, can. we get Come on. Can we have a little bit.

of respect here as well? I'm about to go. do my thing." hopefully gets the. opportunity and uh we'll certainly call. you if any other Arizona Cardinals dudes. comes out AQ. >> Hey, let me let me say one more thing. We also got three really good backs. You. got James Connor, Alier, and obviously. the new guy in Jeremiah Love, right? You. can just lean on those guys, make it a. runheavy offense. You got a pretty good. offensive line returning and then just. let him throw a 10 to 15 game. That's a. pretty good recipe for success. >> Yeah, especially with the good running. backs, you get them sucked up pretty.

good. And Jacob is not scared to do a. high suck him up in there. And then. who's who's right behind? That's. McBride. >> That's right. >> Hey, can you say let him throw 10 or 15. times? Is this the Iowa Hawkeyes. offense? That seems like. >> Hey, listen. I'll take that. Let's. control the football. Let's pound the. rock. Let's suck them up. Suck him up. Hit him behind. That's all you got to. do. >> Are we going to pay that? You think. they're going to pay 10? >> Would they? Yeah, >> that's going to be tough, I think, to. sell. >> You going to try out Gardner or Carson? >> Nope. Yeahson.

I think I'll take my chances with. Jacobe. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> How much money you give him? 15 foot. >> six. He's tall. >> He's very tall. He's great leader. Great. leader. >> I win seven instead of three. >> Paul Gu. That'd be huge. >> Ladies and gentlemen, you Shipley. Thank. you, >> baby. Wouldn't be so bad. >> I mean, I started out with AQ, >> you still there, AQ? Of. >> course. Yeah. >> See what happened at the rookie. premiere. >> Oh, man. Go ahead. Not one.

>> I don't have my readers on. Who Who are. those people? >> I'll tell you what, they're not. >> Who are they? Any Arizona Cardinals in. there? >> Got Jeremiah Love front and left. >> There he is right there. Front and left. I see him. >> Not much girth in there. >> Yeah. You see anything else? >> No linemen. >> Not one. Not one single lineman invited. >> Hey, Drew Allers in there, though. >> Good thing they signed Aaron Rogers. All right. >> That mean that's your TAKE AWAY. WELL.

DONE. >> THAT'S YOUR takeaway in that entire. conversation. >> We are. >> Yeah. Yeah. Got other quarterbacks. there. You got Drew Aller and Will. Howard. >> What are we doing? Pittsburgh. What? Digs. What are we doing? >> What are you talking about? Mason. Rudolph also there. I mean, >> what the [ __ ] are you doing? >> Yeah. What is your take here? You want. Drew Allard to get a little get his. opportunity to shine or you saying. >> I don't know. Yeah. Does he talk Does he. want Drew to start or is he letting they. talking about a practice squad. quarterback? >> I'm not sure what they're doing with the. quarterback position over there. You got. Mason Rudolph's been there for what, 10.

years? >> You got Drew Aller, you got Will Howard. Why Why aren't we giving these guys a. look? The only one ever give him a look. >> What are you talking about? >> Trade for Jacobe. >> trying to win football. >> He's out on air. >> It sounds like it. What? You don't want. them to go for it right now? Do you see. Mike McCarthy and Rogers like good old. days having a laugh on practice field? >> Who would have thought? I think you said. >> a quick release. I saw that quick. release again. >> Hell yeah, you did. >> Mhm. >> Yeah. >> Oh, okay. >> Pittsburgh. >> Big Mike's putting all the offensive. linemen in the places that they played. in college. I love that move. That's.

feels like good news. >> Troy Fatonu over to the left side. Boys, we like it. >> Mace McCormack to the left side. He. played 3,000 snaps there in college. Why. would we play him there in in. professional? God, I love this new. coaching staff. >> See, >> I love that offensive line coach when we. met him. Uh. >> James Camping, >> he was awesome. >> Jarry, >> he had a lot. Ji was awesome. >> Campy had a lot of great vibes. It. looked like he was super positive. >> Yeah. >> What do you think Aaron and coach Mike. McCarthy were saying there? It was. definitely a look at this [ __ ] You. could you imagine us doing this right.

now 15 years ago? >> Well, [ __ ] off, Jagoff probably said. something like that and then. >> Yeah, you guys. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Who the [ __ ]. kind of offense you think they're going. to run? You think they're going to go. back to what they ran in Green Bay? Same. exact. >> My house is right over there. >> What do you think Jord's doing? >> I'm living in my parents' basement. You. wouldn't believe it. >> There's a chance that is the. conversation. And Aaron said, "Why don't. we just [ __ ] call the right play?". >> Okay, why don't we just call the right. play here, okay? And you know, just. >> Hey, [ __ ] it. Take it easy. I am.

calling. >> He threw it to Pitman. Two out of four. passes. >> Take that information for what you want. >> I think it was two out of five actually. You try to sauce it a little bit to make. it sound even better. I do respect that. and appreciate you doing that. But. Pitman is a dog. We are big fans of his. The fact that he left Indianapolis, I do. not love. I think that is the type of. guy you'd like to have in your locker. room. Personally, I think him and Aaron. will fall in love with each other. DK. Mechaf's still on that team. >> Yep. >> Not a single word has been mentioned. about DK Mech. >> And apparently Jeremy Bernard is just. blowing the doors off people. >> Talking about Jeremy.

>> Yeah. >> Someone tell two of the four. >> receivers for your fantasy team this. year. >> I'm sorry. >> Who's a running back? >> Oh, I don't know. >> Oh, man. >> Rico D and Jaylen Ward. Heard of them? >> Ever heard of them? >> That's right. That's right. freaking. took over the league. >> Okay, let's see. Let's see. You ever. hear of Mount Washington? How about. Muth? Oh, that's a onew punch you'll. never see coming. >> Darnell looks like he is. full mountain right now. >> 315. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Which is obviously a problem for.

defenses. Okay, let's go to the other. side of the balls because it seems like. you wanted to be negative about the. Pittsburgh Steelers trying to win right. now. Isn't that what it sounded like. there, Tone? Yeah. >> A little Joe Donardoess coming out of. here. Just a natural hatred for the. hometown. >> Other side of the ball, we finally have. a DC without football. I start to get. angry. I'm sorry. I apologize. >> No, I understand. But we're talking. about football and you're still angry. And I think, you know, there there was. >> It's a long time to September, boys. Long time. >> 114 days. That's what we're trying to. tell you. Yeah. >> I was keeping up with the I was keeping. up with the USGA amateur fourball scores. this morning. That's That's what I'm. watching.

>> How was it? >> Yeah. Who Who should we track? >> It's tough. I mean, Drew Schultz and. Drew KDson, they're the guys. You know, Drew KDson. played in the 2008 US Open. That's. That's where we're at. You're the best, ladies and gentlemen. Thank you, Shippler. >> Miss that guy. >> Four bowl PGA qualifiers. >> Yep. >> What a life. >> Sto Drew Sto. That's old Stoltzy and. Noly from Gold Coast, isn't it? >> Yeah, I assume. Yeah, there had to be. some sort of tie. I think he's They're. probably.

>> Arizona guys. >> Yeah, >> Thunderbirds. >> No, there it is. >> He's on the Sunday call. >> for saying the name. Yeah, he's good. I. think he's good. Also, >> he's critical. I like which I kind of. enjoy sometimes. Yeah, he'll say some. stuff. Uh, back to calling. Crossover. and Reggie were good with Rico. >> Oh, yeah. Yeah, agreed. >> I I think uh Crawford. >> agreed. >> was good. >> Bruce did not think. >> Oh, wow. >> Bruce just gave uh Well, >> Reggie's great. Reggie's great. We're.

not doing last year's stuff. >> That's fake. >> We're all good. >> You know why? >> Yeah. It's a new year. >> No, he doesn't make it about himself at. all. He totally lets the player shine. and doesn't make it all about Reggie. Miller himself. Sounds like a Knicks. fan. >> Jeez, Bruce. >> Wow. I don't like three people. >> I don't think that was the case at all. Three people booth are tough. Mike Tico. can balance it obviously, which is uh. which is sweet. But the NBA playoffs, obviously. NL playoffs a great deal. NFL. is cooking. Awards season, you know. I. was just at an award. >> Oh, yeah. >> show the other day. >> Yeah. >> Did you hear? I went to an award show.

the other day, AJ. >> It looked pretty awesome sitting next to. Blake Shelton. Yeah. >> And Riley Green. People are saying maybe. we're me and Riley. Riley Green. >> Well, people said that. Well, a lot of. people are saying, you know, Riley, Riley's in the middle of everything he. does. I guess I'm learning from the. internet is they're trying to figure out. who Riley. >> who he's got his eyes on. >> Who's his love interest on him? >> Maybe that's maybe it's a. maybe we had a great time. I I'll tell. you, I had a blast at that [ __ ]. thing. We had a great table. I I don't.

know what other tables are like. We had. a blast. Awards can be fun. You know, he. won music event alongside Ella Langley. for a song that he wrote back toback. years. They kind of win that thing. Had. an absolute blast. He gets that trophy. It's It means something. >> You know that trophy means something. You put that up in the studio. You put. that up maybe. >> in the bathroom so you can see it when. you got [ __ ] your pants. >> Yep. Mhm. >> Did you get eyes on that award? >> Uh, I did not, but it sounded like a lot of. people had eyes on it and it was right.

Ladies and gentlemen, we have some bad. news about awards. Um, Jackson Smith and. Jigba, wide receiver for the Seattle. Seahawks. True sensation, a Super Bowl. champion, an absolute stud who won, you. know, the offensive player of the year. at the NFL honors award. Finally got his. trophy sent to him. Obviously, his. credit and it was spelled wrong. >> Oh, it's spelled wrong. A lot of people. say that they've sent him the defensive. player of the year. We reached out to. source. in the league is claiming ownership of.

this. Hey, we're the ones that type up. all the things for the engraver to go. ahead and make the trophy. So that's. actually we think an O instead of a D. there. And the the typo was with the E. as opposed to that being an F. So I. believe there is a chance that this is O. E F N SIV as opposed to O FFIV. as opposed to a defensive Yeah. typo. there I believe is what happened there.

Certainly a typo. League is claiming. ownership of it. I believe source. >> says from the league are actually saying. and I quote. >> what about the the year the year part. >> uh the year with no space there. It. feels like that was potentially a also a. flub. It feels like feels like somebody. that did the typing on this just thought. yep nailed it. Send it. It didn't get. any uh checks and balances. Correct. Can't have it in the biggest league on. earth. and Jackson Smith and Jigba. obviously whenever he won this award. He.

was not in the building. The way it was. announced became its own story as well. So, you know, JSN had a hell of a year. and all of a sudden it feels like he's. going to be motivated even more by it. all. Dut and he'll get another trophy. He should keep both of them. >> Yeah, >> he should keep both of them for the. entire situation. And I think the NFL. will certainly be trying to make it. right. >> Yeah. You know, you you hate to see us. I don't know if we've ever seen this. before from the uh the pinnacle. you. talking about professional leagues and. this is one of the biggest awards you. know after the MVP is the next one that.

we always look at the quarterback is. pretty much kind of dominated that award. and then you talk about the announcement. obviously Drewki a comedian tried to be. funny in the moment most people didn't. think it was funny he wasn't there. because he was preparing for the Super. Bowl but won the Super Bowl won. offensive player of the year I'm sure. the NFL to get this figured out and. fixed but you hate to see JS a little. bummed out about it. >> he's going to be most at this point this. guy had an incredible year a career year. some would Okay. And he's coming out. with a bad taste in his mouth. >> and a big bad. >> That's unbel and a huge bad. That's an.

unbelievable place to be if you're a. Seattle Seahawks fan. It's like, okay, our guy that's different than everybody. else is passed. No [ __ ] respect. And. then what was the defensive line? Uh, [ __ ] you. You know what he said at the. speech? What did they say at the speech? >> Boy, my quarterback or something. >> Oh, the linebacker. >> And then McDonald, the way he just like. kind of. >> Ernest Jones. Yes. Dude, this team, Sam. Darnold, always going to have because he. was run out of the biggest city in. America and said he was terrible. It's.

like this team is getting fed more chips. almost, AJ. And that's insane to think. about. >> It is because that's the hardest thing. you always worry about. Hey, like Super. Bowl hangover, all that stuff. You know, John Schneider, the GM, he's just. sitting back loving all of this stuff. happen. So, that's the thing coming back. to camp after win the Super Bowl or. coming back to OTAAS and thinking, all. right, how what do I do? Like, how do I. get it across to these guys? Like, we. got to keep our foot on the gas. and. last year didn't happen. All of that. And it's like, hey, sometimes some. outside outside forces kind of do that. for you. >> Hey, they don't even know how to they.

don't even care. They just type. >> Yeah. They don't care enough about us. out here. You know, they they forget. about us out here way up north. >> I've told a lot of Seahawks fans that I. ran into a lady named uh Stephanie, I do. believe, at the ACM awards working in. Vegas. She's big time Seahawks fan. Okay. and uh she mentioned, "Oh, the. prime time games are going to be good. for the Seahawks getting seen by people, you know, like we're going to be forced. to talk and see the Seattle Seahawks. because of the amount of prime time. games." And that's only starting for. them. >> Yeah. Feels like that's only going to be. starting for this particular era of the. Seahawks. And Schneider, we know he's a.

beauty. >> Yeah. >> Absolutely. >> The man. >> The man. >> He He really is. He can't throw a. football. >> AJ used to always say that and we'd be. like, "Yeah, yeah, probably. Sure. Definitely." And then we got to. experience. >> Ty got to experience him a lot more than. anybody else around us. But it was. certainly a fantastic vibe from old. Schneider. >> Yeah, that's why I'm not worried about. any kind of Super Bowl hangover because. I don't think John Schneider's ever been. hung over in his life. You know, I see. what he what he can do, you know, night. in night out and guess what? Next. morning he's up early. He's, you know,

combing over different prospects ready. to prepare for the draft. So I I don't. think we need to worry about any kind of. Super Bowl hangover. If you're going to. hoot with the owls, >> Yeah. >> you got to be able to wake up and soar. with the eagles if you want to be worth. the [ __ ] in this world. >> Exactly. Agreed. >> Cuz if you hoot with the owls and then. the eagles take off and you're not with. them, >> then all of a sudden you're just you're. just hooting all day. >> And guess what's not happening? [ __ ]. altitude. The. >> Got to get up there. >> Got to get up. >> He's getting the worm. >> Not just the worm. I think the eagles. are getting [ __ ] big fish. I got one. thrown off the side of my house.

>> Yesterday thrown or two days ago. Thrown. off the side of my house. Sunday, I. guess. Three to Wednesday. How many days. again? >> So. >> what did what happened? >> That's not the first time, right? >> Yeah. So this is the thing. I didn't. know this. Live on a lake. They say. it'll be a good time. You have good. views. Uh there's also a chance that. these birds, you know, prey, which. eagles are. We got two to live on. property there. >> Wow. >> They will they will find a fish somehow. cuz they got eagle eyes. >> Yep. Well said. >> And they will they will go in there and. they will snag these things and it is. just like an actual like a grab of and.

then they start flying away. Some of the. fish a little bit too big. So they'll. fight, you know, they'll fight in there. and it will slip. >> and that thing you just It's like. raining fish and just smacks off a. window. It is. >> It's quite a little scene. Yeah. You. know, explain to McKenzie what's. happening there. >> Probably not. Slip. >> rain. You think it's strong? >> You got probably got a nice edge that. they like just Yep. Right there. >> Good stone. >> You think that's the death throws. finisher? Oh, so you're saying that that.

thing's moving a little bit and Eagle's. like, "Hey, we can do this two different. ways and that thing starts bouncing. around, comes right around the house.". >> Yeah. I got. >> Bang. >> Oh yeah. >> Potentially. I mean, these [ __ ] are. smart. >> Yeah, they are. They really are. They're. >> I told you about the sitting ducks with. them. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> It was like Nat Gio was happening just. right behind the house. >> AJ, you remember that? Forget what it. was. Christmas, maybe Thanksgiving, one. of the holidays where everybody was. there. You remember what these trying to.

Were you shooting shooting ducks? >> I wasn't shooting. No, shoot. It's a. [ __ ] residential neighbor. I. >> Somebody was paintballing them. >> I can't be shooting these things. No, there was there was a a group of ducks. Uh I don't know the official name. There's a bunch of different breeds of. ducks. >> Was it a malard? >> Um no, >> mard's green. >> No, it was a uh black uh head, I. believe. A I forget the. >> the full But it goes underwater pretty. good, these ones. and they stick around. long into the cold, but the lake freezes. except for little spots of water. So,

all these ducks just go to these one. little and I think this is where the. sitting ducks thing kind of started. >> So, then these eagles, okay, just have. literally sitting ducks down here. These. things flew down, picked one up at a. time, passed it off the ice, called in. its friends, did that. Ducks get scared. to death. Guess where they go? The only. other hole that it was. And all of a. sudden, after they're done eating the. [ __ ] out of this duck, they go on up. Guess what we're doing again, let's do a. little rolllette, they're going to boom,

getting one. >> off the ice. We're watching this blood. It was. >> a massacre. It was a [ __ ] mask. It. really was. And then you think to. yourself like, these Eagles are. geniuses. I mean, they're probably. preparing for this for weeks. Hey, we. got the [ __ ] little ice gimmick. coming with these. >> Yeah, don't worry. We're good. >> Go ahead and wait. >> Good eats. >> They are so smart, dude. So, it was it. was it was devastating if you were a. Duck fan. I'm telling you, if you were a. Duck fan, that was going to be a tough. holiday. And it was happening right. behind the house. Middle of the day,

great lighting. I think it was happening. literally for the house in which we were. in. It was I'm a big fan of the Eagle. But if you hit with the house, you got. to be able to [ __ ] wake up with them. >> Exactly. >> Because they got to get the ducks and. the fish and throw them off the houses. and everything like that. If you're just. boozing all day, you're not going to be. able to do that. >> Agreed. Uh, and all this talk reminded. me uh something we saw last night. Um, >> nope. >> AJ, >> good call. Hey, did you find the queen. bee? So, so, so how do we get into this? And, um, this is awesome. Are you is.

this your new hobby or how how far into. the game are we? Are we making honey for. the boys? What what's kind of going on. here? >> I mean, eventually love to make honey. I've always been interested in bees and. curious about them. said, "Yeah, that. guy there, Brian, he's uh one of my. buddies, his son plays with my son, and. I saw he had a beehive like six months. ago in his yard and I've been asking him. about it and he's he's really dove into. it deep, so he's been helping me. I. That's a That gray box right there. It's, you know, free plug, I guess, that's an interceptor swarm box." So, I.

caught a I I put that up about a month. ago. I caught a feral swarm of bees and. then that was I was transitioning them. into an actual hive now. So, yeah, now. we're about to Now we're about to go. >> Okay. Do you have to deliver them a. queen or is there already a queen in the. >> They make a queen. >> They make them. >> Who makes a queen? The bees make the. queen. >> The bees are crazy, man. The more you. you learn about bees that it's it is. nuts how these guys these people handle. It's It's wild. Yeah. They'll you. they'll feed them royal jelly and extra. like like extended period of time to. make the queen. Then that queen lays.

eggs. And I'm pretty sure I already got. a queen laying eggs in my fereral swarm. that I got. You can buy bees online, but. I didn't want to do that. My buddy did. that. and he said, "No, let's catch a. feral swarm." And he's caught a couple. over at his property, too. >> Well, congratulations on wrangling the. feral swarm of bees that you can now. have on your property. I watched Jerry. Seinfeld as a bee. I think I learned a. lot more about how they operate and. everything. They are a sophisticated. bunch, but it does appear if you get a. queen that they all agree to, just like. Canada did for all those years, >> you they'll kind of just blindly follow.

it from my understanding. And there's. big benefits from these bees in society. Okay, remember there was a time Nick. Moralda, who's one of the most. pessimistic people on earth about. everything, was giving thumbs up to bees. because we needed more bees and there. was like a shortage of bees happening. So, I actually appreciate. >> local honey is good for allergies. >> Bingo. We hope to get some Columbus. honey out of the hawk uh hive sometime. That'll certainly be something we look. forward to. But Nick, you were big on. the bees there for like an eight-month. period. It was almost like an. interesting little time of your life. >> Need the bees, Pat. They were uh they.

were they were facing some challenges. there for a little bit. They still are. So, it's good to see an upstanding. citizen like AJ helping them out, giving. them a home here because, you know, we. can't have the plants without the bees. and then the birds and then that whole. thing. You know, someone should have. told you about that when you were. younger. But you need them. You need. them to keep the ecosystem going. >> That's right. >> I hate the [ __ ] bees. I'll be honest. with you. >> What? >> No. No. There's a [ __ ] nuisance. >> No, but you don't. They're not like. Canadian geese, dude. They're [ __ ]. different for society. >> Yeah, I get it. But they're just like. always buzzing around areas where like. I'm sitting and it's like I'm [ __ ].

sick of this thing. So I go out and I go. to Ace and I have to buy the [ __ ]. you know, and and that's not good for. the environment. Just spraying that bee. killer just. >> all over. Yeah, exactly. >> So I'm I'm at where we stand right now. I'm [ __ ] done with the bees. I. [ __ ] hate them. Those ones stink. But. honestly, those pale in comparison to. them big [ __ ] carpenter bees. Those. dumb sons of [ __ ] who they do damage. cars. They fly into saying they're dumb. as [ __ ] They don't sting you, but. they'll just [ __ ] fly right into your.

forehead and do it a hundred times. But. and then yeah, they'll burrow into wood. and [ __ ] like that. Damn near have. already taken down my, you know, swing. set. But [ __ ] structural integrity. >> calling into question now. >> It sounds like you got a wood problem. more so than a carbon be. It sounds like. it's on your wood, pal. >> Yeah, but I'm saying your wood's weak. You need to get a little bit stronger. Maybe get a little pop out. >> No, that would be that that's not my. wood. Okay. That would be [ __ ]. gorilla playets wood. So yeah, I may. have to take that up with them. Uh yeah,

>> these [ __ ] I'm done with them. I'm done with them. >> AJ, who's wearing the shorts and who. isn't wearing the shorts in that. picture? >> We know. >> I am not wearing the shorts. That's my. my first time even handling that. Opening that swarm box. >> The shorts was a bold move. >> So you're in the I didn't need them. >> You're in the full gimmick. >> I'm in the full gear. But yeah, I don't. need it. Those Trust me, these guys, we. found a good swarm. These guys do not. want to bite at all. They are just. strictly working. be. >> next time I won't next time I'll. probably just wear the head, you know, the the head deal.

>> Yeah. Not even the gloves. You got a. hardworking hive it sounds like, over. there at the hawk house. And we'll. certainly keep our eye on the honey that. you will be producing for all of our. allergies to continue to battle this. weekend. Massive, massive time for the. sport of the future. >> Oh, hell yeah. >> Might be the sport of the now, especially with the highlights that are. destined to be coming from the Final. Four. Con man, what do we need to know. about these four lacrosse powerhouses? >> Yeah, pretty unbelievable. So there you. see Prince with the one standing up. There's Nay Kabir. He's kind of one of. the Tuarton finalist superstar. You will.

definitely be seeing more of him. If. they continue to win, he will definitely. show up. Duke damn near the surprise of. the tournament. All four blue bloodoods. obviously seen Duke win natties, but you. do not see them be in ranked. They won. at Richmond uh two weeks ago to kind of. get this entire thing started and now. they've made it all the way. That is Ben. Johnston. Not Ben Johnson. We got two. ends in Ben. Kind of like Bennett and. Johnston with a T. He's led them. Uh I. believe this is the goal against.

Georgetown to get them here. And then. Notre Dame. >> Duke lacrosse back. Good for them. >> Duke lacrosse back. Yeah. >> Congratulations. >> Kind of a stalwart in the final four. weekend. This is Josh DGO. So he is a. transfer from the Air Force. Actually, I. believe he is a pilot. I'm not sure. exactly if he is a engineer or if he's. actually flying the things. He's leading. them. He thought his career was done. He's a grad transfer for his last year. Lax trying to win a natty. There he is. again. Boom. Huge goal,

I believe. Uh and then Syracuse. Syracuse kind of back at the top. They. are a uh kind of old firm if you will. That is the Powell's alma mater as we. know so well. But uh Joyce Pelina, he is. their superstar. a good Italian boy. I'm. sure he is also a Toarton finalist. So, we are set up for great games this. weekend. It's Saturday, Final Four, and. then Monday, National Championship. >> Okay, that's the men's side. Let's go to. the women's side. Obviously, they're. entering their final four as well. Stars.

all over the place. >> Yeah, less uh surprises as you can see. Northwestern John's Hopkins one verse. four. Let's Yeah, go back to the graphic. maybe. And then two vers three, North. Carolina, Maryland. Thank you very much. Uh, North Carolina superstar, uh, Khloe. Humphrey. She's a sophomore. She has 100. goals this season. That's not a 100. goals in her career this season. I. believe Bruce, she won the Toronto, you. said last year as a freshman. >> Yeah, she's she's the one. She is on. pace to be the greatest women's um.

lacrosse player, not just in college, but just in in general. Um, she's. unbelievable to last year, 100 goals. this year. They're probably the favorite. to bring this thing home. But obviously. on the other side we got um you know. kind of the Cinderella story with John's. Hopkins and Taylor Hos. >> Yeah, we love John's Hopkins and Taylor. uh Hos showing us a lot of love. Johns. Hopkins women's lacrosse team has shown. us a lot of love. We appreciate them so. much. Obviously that fantastic last. second actual goal to send them into. championship weekend here with a. turnover in the back. Oh, let's go.

ahead. We got 13 seconds. Let's go ahead. and execute perfectly an entire counter. whenever you need it. kind of. tic-tac-toeing the ball and then Taylor. Hos ends up with a goal. Actual. perfection here as they move past. Stonybrook. We appreciate the John's. Hopkins team. Oh, yeah. But whenever you. think about uh women's lacrosse and blue. bloods here, that's who we have. Johns. Hopkins, it feels like that would be a. school that I would think would have a. good lacrosse team if that makes sense. >> Yeah, they almost had both. Same with. North Carolina, too. Like they almost.

had both teams, men and women, in the. final four. Maryland, you could say as. well. >> Who's that there? JJ Serriiona. That's. goalie, right? Yeah, goalie, superstar. Uh, definitely going to be a tall task, but again, Khloe Humphrey has 100 goals. in the year. Northwestern kind of a. budding dynasty, you could argue. They. are a absolute powerhouse. Now, uh, men's team, I don't know if they have. actual men's team, but their girls team. is unbelievable. So, it would be one of. those things where you wouldn't be. surprised if Northwestern kind of ran.

the table here. >> All right, we'll be watching it all. Love sports. >> Oh, yeah. >> Oh, yeah. >> Great weekend for lacrosse. >> Notre Dame is your favorite to win it. all. Well, good luck to all parties. Hey, we're so thankful for you. >> We got a beehive amongst us. >> Oh, yeah. >> And he will continue to bring, you know, just kind of insights that only our show. can provide for you. >> There was a hat that just fell off an. alien head that's on top of the Larry. O'Brien trophy on that table right over. there. And we try to, you know, really.

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graduating high school. Wow. You've done it, lad. >> A man. First one. Uh it'll be big. I'm. sure I will cry like a baby tomorrow uh. morning. But uh proud of her. Proud of. Maya. Uh she's going on to be at FAU, so. she won't be too far away. >> Hey, she's hooting with the house. >> She is. >> Okay. But we know she'll be up with the. Eagles. >> She will. Huh. That's part of. >> which we respect. Congratulations to. you. Uh all right. Be a friend. Tell her. friend something nice. It might change. your life. We're in this thing together. Team on me. Team on three. Let's enjoy. tonight.

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