The Pat McAfee Show Live | Tuesday June 10th 2025

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Hello, beautiful people. and welcome to. our h the boat. The Thunderdome on this. offseason football Tuesday, June 10th, 2025. This program begins now. Sports are fantastic and there's a lot. of them happening in real time. Last. night, the NHL continued the way the NHL. has gone the last two years. The Florida. Panthers put an ass beating on the. Edmonton Oilers to go up 2-1 in the. Stanley Cup finals. We will talk about. that today with Moose Mark Messier.

joining us in about 30 minutes or so. Obviously, he's an NHL legend. He was. teammates with Wayne Gretzky way back in. the day. Became the captain of the New. York Rangers and a man who played, I. think, 55 years in the NHL, won a 100. Stanley Cups. Can't wait to get his. thoughts on this Florida Panther team, how they play, why they play, and if his. Oilers team is going to be able to. answer. And is there a tell on Stein, the goalie of the Edmonton? It feels. like five out of six of those goals one. sticks right here. Right here, right.

here. It's what we see in the playoffs. of hockey. They get a scattering report, the book on the goalies. I'm not saying. they don't have it all season, but in. the playoffs, best of seven series, they. are doing a lot of research on where. this goalie sucks and where this goalie. is great at. If you look at most of. these goals, except for whenever Steuart. Skinner was out of the net, that thing. was going high to he was out of net. there. That doesn't count. Go to the. second goal, please. Please go to the. second goal. Thank you. Thank you. Thank. you. Boom. Bang. Bardowski actually off. the top. Third goal. Boom. High right on. the goal. Stew skin. Boom. High right.

Stek skin. Stick side high side. How you. doing? Keep it. I think he's in trouble. I think the Florida Panthers have. figured it out. Last night 6-1 win in. dominating fashion. We'll talk to Mark. Messier. We'll also have Sham Shirania. joining every goal. Basically going to. the same exact spot. Now granted, they're sniping. Oh yeah, big. I mean, those potentially going in on a goalie. that is very good on stick side, but it. feels like they were aiming one. particular direction and putting it in. This Florida Panthers team looking to go. back to back for the eighth time in the. history of the NHL. A dynasty in South.

Florida is certainly a conversation. piece. Now, let's talk a little bit. about the NBA cuz we know tomorrow night. here in Indianapolis, Indiana, game. three of the NBA finals will be taking. place. We will be live from outside of. Gamebridge Fieldhouse at noon tomorrow. Come hang out with us. Great backdrop. over there. I'm ready. Nice weather. Bicsentennial Plaza is what it's called. It's right outside of Cambridge. This is. a covered area, so it go should have. some shade in there on the beautiful. weather. The backdrop is beautiful. Most.

shots of Indianapolis don't have this. particular backdrop. So, whenever we are. offered up the opportunity to go down. there again, we are incredibly pumped. and thankful for it. We'll be there. tomorrow. Come hang out with us. Even if. you're in town, uh, from the Oklahoma. City fan base, you guys have done a. great job with your arena. Coach Carlau. of the Indiana Pacers actually said. these fans here really. they're loud. He said that was a big. deal for this uh game whenever we lost. game two. He said we hope our fans. understand the mission, understand the. task. I hope so too. We'll be in there.

tomorrow night. So hopefully we'll set. the table tomorrow. A lot of people. traveling in town. A lot of people are. going to be on the show tomorrow. I hope. you will come join us. But Sham Shirania. will join us in about 10 minutes or so. What should we be thinking about as we. look ahead to this game three? What. should we be thinking about as we look. ahead to the show tomorrow? Sham's join. us live in person. We assume he'll be. boots on the ground out here. This. dude's unbelievable. Tyrese Hallebertton. was seen limping. Uhoh. Out of his press. conference. Didn't look good. Just. looked like he was a little bit sore. That doesn't look like anything.

problematic to me because if it was, I. don't think the Pacers people would. allowed him just to walk. There would. have been at least an arm, maybe a. crutch. We're in the middle of the NBA. Finals. But we'll ask Shams what he. knows about this and any other. storylines brewing ahead of this NBA. Finals game three tomorrow here in. Indianapolis Indiana. And then football. is happening all around us. Mandatory. mini camps are happening all around the. league. There's some people not showing. up. Uhoh. That's right. There's some. people not happy about their contracts. There's some veterans that have proven. themselves in this league that say, "Hey, excuse me. We are supposed to get.

a deal done. You have not gotten a deal. done. I don't care if it's mandatory. You know what's mandatory? You paying. me. That's what's mandatory. I'll take. the $17,000 fine. I'll take the $30,000. fine for missing these mandatory mini. camps because what you owe me is a lot. more. So, this is becoming a statement. for some of these players or if you're. the 17th overall pick uh in the draft. where it is it is. it's pretty slotted cut and dry on what. you're going to get. I mean, that is. kind of a part of the CBA. It's like. here's the amount of money that the.

number one overall pick will get. Now, there are some conversations about the. guarantees, when the money comes, when. it when it will be deferred to all those. things. There are some negotiations, but. it's 17th overall. They kind of got it. They kind of got it pretty much figured. out. He has an agent out of LA, young. lad. He might be some sort of super. genius that is working the system in the. CBA differently than everybody else. But. this dude missing all of this and this. dude saying like numbers weren't where I. wanted them to be instead of like what I. was told they should be has made himself.

a bad guy in a city that he was going to. be you know I mean in Cincinnati that's. a place that they will hold you they. will judge you like this is just overall. bad in my idea in my eyes this is not. great for Shamar Stewart but as soon as. the deal gets done he'll get on the. field he'll be a beast that's what. Stewart is we understand he'll be great. but the Cincinnati Bengals draft him. 17th to replace Trey Hendrickson. potentially cuz they can't get Trey. Hendrickson to show up to anything. Now. their 17th overall pick isn't showing up. to anything. They got problems on that D.

line over there and uh the only way it's. going to get settled is money I guess. and negotiations and maybe because they. get rid of Pratt yesterday. They open up. some money to sign Trey Hendrickson and. maybe the super agent that Shamar. Stewart has, he's able to snoop his way. around the CBA to get more money than. anybody else in the history of that. particular pick was supposed to get with. the rules and regulations that have been. implied in collectively bargained. agreement for the NFL. So there's a lot. of problems around the NFL. We'll. certainly talk about that with Shrager.

in the next hour. He got his mind blown. by O. O been doing a lot. O has a book. Nine-year NFL vet Darius Jay Butler. joined us. Yes, sir. O's has blown our. minds. Yes. O walked up to you and told. you to bring your phone out. Scroll. through your phone book contacts. Stop. Yeah. Look at a name on in your. contacts. And then he wrote down on a. dry erase board the exact name that you. were looking at in your phone. But not. just the name. Yeah. You said the name I. believe was Boogie. Wasn't even a real.

name. It was my daughter's nickname. Boogie was on his phone. He says Boogie. He writes that. He already had Boogie. wrote down. And then he had something. else and he said and and and. then you said uh black heart emoji. And. he turns it around. He goes exactly. boogie. And it was just like wait a. minute. Then he looked at me one to 100. Think of a number. And I go I think of a. number. 77. And I go too easy of a. number. 77. That's the easy. That's got. to be the easiest one. Two sevens. Sevens is a lot of people lucky number. That seems like an easy one. I went to. like 54 or something. I'm like what a.

shitty number. Give me Give me I'm going. to a shitty number. He says to me, "Bang. You thought of 77, then you moved. to a lower number, right? Lower number. Yeah. 54. And then he walks away. I'm. like, only I know if that was right or. not. And he was [ __ ] right. Wow. Then. he came on game day, this guy, and he. told me to think of a card. So I thought. of one card and then I switched it last. second. I'm like, not going to let him. do it. He called my ass out. He's like, you were thinking of this, then you went. to this. And I'm like, what's this? He's. a demon. And more people need to.

understand he's a demon. He tried to do. a trick at Big Night Out that would have. required 12,000 drunk uh people to. follow along with their calculator. That. was a big swing. That that was a big. swing by O's. But every time I've seen. this dude operate, it is mindblowing, mindboggling. And you think to yourself, this thing isn't real. And uh he's. there's more and more people getting a. taste of it. Yeah. And what he did this. morning with the get up thing here. Outrageous. And a lot of people say it's.

all rigged. It's like, no. Nope. We're. trying to catch him. This group right. here would I don't think we would let. anybody like Thank you. I was like a. little bit more respect. Super Bowl. Super Bowl AJ put half the deck of cards. into his pocket to try and uh screw with. O's and then O solid and made him take. them all out. Have a draft. He got the. penn I mean it's just like Yeah, he's a. demon, man. He's got a book though. He. can teach you how to be a demon. Oh, that's my thing. I don't know if I want. that book. Nobody bass a thousand. So, the big night out was tough. But um.

today on Get Up, I believe he broke Bart. Scott's brain and definitely broke. Green's brain. He might still be in that. studio stuck right there because you. talked about the 77 and then throwing. him off going to 54. We did the same. thing with the coaches to spell out get. up uh this morning. It it it was wild. and knowing it, seeing it on TV now, knowing it's not a gimmick, knowing it's. not a fugaze, cuz I definitely would. think it if I didn't experience it my. own. Scrolling scrolling through my. phone, he got me maybe two or three more. times. I think I I don't want to be in. his presence uh ever again. Yeah, that's.

how I feel every time I'm around him. And then I'm like kind of oddly. fascinated by what's going on here cuz. he did the game day thing where he uh he. he he had me close my eyes and he said, "A school will come to your your mind.". Okay, Greeny. Then he had Herb Street do. something else. Think of another thing. Think of another school. So then. Herbstreet says he thinks of Clemson or. something like that. And I thought of. Georgia. So at the moment I thought, "Oh, we got him. He [ __ ] this one up.".

Like, "This is not right." Because I. said Georgia Bulldogs. And then Herb. Street turns his thing around. It says. Clemson on his dry race board. I'm like, "Oh no, we just ruined your whole thing, buddy." And then turns out, uh, no, they. actually played each other. What was the. final score? Oh, it was exactly what. Sabin did earlier and what Reese Davis. did earlier. That was the final score. Those were the teams that played against. each other and there were some D. It's. like the levels of [ __ ] He like tells a. story with all of his tricks. They're. never done. They're never done. seemingly. He just keeps going. We would. just like to let the world know that is.

very pessimistic about these types of. things and maybe they're sick of seeing. those because I have seen that on the. internet. I've seen people say we're. sick of seeing this guy. Just know that. I we can understand why you're sick of. seeing them. But if you have a chance to. be around them, it's like uh it's a. moment you're like what the like it. doesn't make any sense. So I think. that's why everybody's kind of. captivated that is in TV world by them. because we all want it to be fake. Yes. We all want it to be [ __ ] And then. he walks right into that batter's box. and seemingly each time he takes a. bigger bat. Well, I'mma tie actually.

this guy over here. His [ __ ] ties into. here. They spelled get up this morning. uh with the first letter of all the. different names that we're thinking of. He got somebody's ATM uh pin. Yeah. From. an offensive lineman at the Cincinnati. Bengals. But first it was Joe Burrow. throwing it randomly to two pe throwing. a ball randomly to a team meeting and it. was their numbers were that guy's pin. did it with the Bills too. Did that. multiple times. Is that not just like.

Yeah, that's crazy. How does that. [ __ ] work? I I don't know how it. works. Got Roi got his pin. Not amused. Well, it's that is one of those things. where I got your pin if you Hey, yes, my. pin I had to change it. Thank you so. much. Actually [ __ ] me cuz I don't use. my pin much, you know. Had to get money. out. Uh, put my old pin in. Didn't work. twice. Didn't work twice. I thought I. was going to lock it up. I'm like, "That. is my pen. It has been my pen." And then. immediately little O's pops in my head. Haha. It's not your pen anymore. Remember we did it in front of a million.

concurrents. We were doing the numbers. for Big Night Out between YouTube x Tik. Tok. We had throughout a million. concurrents throughout that that show. So, how many people sard my pit? All of. them. Probably a lot for sure. probably. all of them and then the reruns. There. was no reason for him to do that to. people, you know. Can you pick something. that isn't as detrimental? Yeah. To. society there. Just losing it all. Hey, this guy's social security number. All. right.

Right now. That's a pretty crazy thing. to do. Anyways, we'll talk to Sh about. that and everything happening around the. NFL and what he is hearing about some of. the big names that are still available. because remember Shrikes uh slept on the. couches of a lot of these guys that are. now in charge. That's right. Senior Bowl. having a good time down Mobile, Alabama. as a young buck trying to meet people. All the people he met now are basically. running the league. So he's happens to. have a lot of information that other. people don't have. Although he doesn't. consider himself an insider, he is. certainly that. We can't wait to catch. up with him. The toxic table was here at. Boston Conor and at Tai Schmidt. Con man.

uh owes a demon, but this Panthers team. might be unstoppable. I know they're in. their third straight finals. I know this. is potentially their second straight. Stanley Cup. Conor McDavid, Dry Settle, and the boys still exist. I'm not saying. they don't, but when you watch the. Florida Panthers do what they did last. night, it's hard not to be like, "This. is a wagon for the foreseeable future.". And they just got Marian on their team. Yeah, exactly. Marianne, I mean, you you. just said it. Him and Sam Bennett. together have been ridiculous. I don't. know if you remember the movie Hancock,

but in Hancock, Will Smith's a. superhero. Fun fact, uh, back when Facebook was a thing. favorite. movies. Hancock was on there. Okay. NFL. Films uh was filming me one time, asked. me my favorite superhero. I said. Hancock, the drunk one. Next question. Uh I am a big Hancock fan. Okay. So. then, you know, Hancock loses his powers. when he's near around another. Yeah. Around another. It's kind of the. opposite of Brad Marian and Sam Bennett.

when they're around each other. They. almost become better. Sam Bennett now is. the favorite to win the Khan Smi award, which is crazy because McDavid was the. favorite at minus two something coming. in. Marshian a minute into the game, you. know, he scores his first goal and then. it was basically that was kind of all. she wrote damn near. Uh Verhagy, ridiculous sniping. You mentioned over. that uh right shoulder that stickside. high on Stewin. Gump's been telling us. for a while, hey, Stewin will turn into.

a pumpkin. I'm not saying that happened, but I'd be surprised if we see uh Stewie. skin again. Uh the problem the the. Oilers are are doing is that they're. trying to play uh Florida Panther. hockey. Okay, I see that they're trying. to bully a lot. They're trying to bully. and and granted that's because the. Oilers went and they grabbed uh Trent. Frederick who started the uh backyard. brawl, if you will, last night. It's 5. to one. Uh the Oilers are just getting. absolutely [ __ ] pumped. And because of.

that, they're trying to get into the. heads into the kitchens of these Florida. Panthers. Little do they know that is. where the Panthers live. Trent Frederick. right there. Sam Bennett, he's been the. superstar. So what's Tread Frederick do? Hey, let's screw with this guy. I'm. going to break my stick over his back. and let's just start throwing hands. And. that's what happens. But that's what the. Florida Panthers thrive off of. The uh. Oilers are probably going with Calvin. Pickard now who got hurt earlier. uh in. the playoffs as a five on five in the. Stanley Cup finals the whole fight. I I.

mean what are we even talking about? This is 51. This game is over. There is. the only reason this would happen is. because the Edmonton Oilers just are. trying to get under the Panthers skin. Do you think that's going to happen for. the Panthers team? Absolutely not. Blood. gushing down that guy's face. Couple. cross checks from Frederick on Sam. Bennett. One in the lower back then. breaks his stick across the wrist of Sam. Bennett, the guy who's going to win the. conite, the MVP of this entire thing. So. obviously the Panthers are like I don't. think so. This is all happening right in. front of the Edmonton Oilers bench. I. once again cannot reiterate the fact.

enough. Hockey is awesome. And the fact. that you can just get a full five on. five brawl in the Stanley Cup finals in. 2025 should make everybody say this. sport's the greatest of all time. There's only three refs out there. Yeah, there's five different fights. Three. refs. There's multiple times where that. fight would go down to the ground. Guys. would catch their breath and say we're. not done yet. They get back up, start. fighting each other. And the ref would. have to come over. Then one ref would be. struggling with one big time fight. Would call in a friend. Stripes. Hey, two refs, one fight. There's four other.

fights happening in only one ref to. break it all up. This thing could have. gone all day if they wanted it to. But. the boys ran out of gas. The boys ran. out of steam. And I think the boys. proved themselves that, hey, you're not. just going to disrespect us. The. Edmonton Oilers said, "We ain't no. rollover [ __ ] around here. We will. put up a fight even if we're losing.". And uh and the Panthers said, "Is that. right?" Okay, we'll beat you 5-1 and. beat your ass on top of it. As a Florida. Panther fan, you got to love everything. about it. Man, loved everything about. it. And post fight, you know, seeing a.

stick taps up against the wall. I mean, yeah, it's just it it's the height of. obviously playoff hockey, the. physicality, not only uh between the. whistles, but after the whistles as. well. And you knew this was coming. You. knew this was coming from the Oilers. once they were down 51. Pretty much gave. up I feel like in the second period. Uh. it's one thing to be talented, but then. to be talented and then be deep as well. You know, you mentioned Sam Bennett and. uh Marshian, but uh you know, Barky and. Chucky, like they haven't even been. giving him the production that you. expect them to at this level. You're.

still getting all these weapons getting. in there. Carter, Hegy, Swaggy, he's. always going to put pucks on net, especially when it comes to playoff. time. And then Bob, Bob is standing on. his head. Bob Brsky, the goalie for the. Pounders. Yeah, Bobby, you know, standing on his head, man. So, I loved. everything about it and that popped from. the crowd. You know, obviously Marshia. got it started very very early on. I. think the earliest uh Stanley Cup. championship goal in Panthers history. and then once Carter followed it up, uh. that crowd was in it and they they never. left. One half of the hammer Cowboys AP. tone. The one thing we do need to worry.

about is Conor McDavid and potentially. an injury. Eblad lined him up a bit last. night and then he went to the locker. room. So, like if if McDavid's not 100%, are they going to be able to beat the. Panthers? Like that's the huge thing to. watch going forward. It didn't look like. much there, but then the more of the. replays they show, he got a little bit. of a knee to knee uh on that hit. So, it's it's definitely something that we. need to watch moving forward. Yeah. And. McDavid getting Oh, back knee there. A. little bit of a trail. Him ending up on. the ice obviously never good. Not. expected because of how great of a. skater he is. Uh do you know how strong.

you have to be to skate as fast as he. skates right now? That's the thing about. McDavid. He's so explosive, but he's. also so durable seemingly. uh Edmonton. Oilers without Conor McDavid. Obviously, this thing is signed sealed delivered to. the Florida Panthers. But if he can. stand, they will put him out there. That's the difference between hockey and. every other sport. If you can get into. your skates and get vertical, if you can. stand up and down like 6:00 Mhm. shouts. to you, Rich. They will push your ass. onto the ice and you will finish. So, Conor McDavid will play. We'll find out. what he's actually going through.

whenever this series is over, which is. per usual in the hockey world. Joining. us now, ladies and gentlemen, senior. insider for the NBA at ESPN, friend of. the program, the always handsome ladies. and gentlemen, Sham Shiron. Yeah, how you doing, pal? I'm good. I have. news. I do have news. I will be in the. house tomorrow in Indianapolis outside. Gambridge Fieldhouse. I will be there. It's up to something season. So, if. you're there live in person, you never. know what's coming your way. But you got.

to be in person to get it first though, right? Like I I think that's how it. works. Yeah. I think you'll get it on. social media, but you got to be there in. person. Yeah. I think personto person is. certainly the fastest form of. communication still in 2025. There is. some te telepathic. stuff that goes on with uh O's. I think. that's faster. I think that's probably. fastest than I need to learn how to do. that. I feel like I I would get more. information quicker if I if I knew how. to do that. Do you think vocal.

communication or sign language is faster. communication? To me, it's it's always vocal. It's. always vocal. Yeah. But if I do that, like you see you pretty quick. That's. you know what I mean? True. That's. that's better than that's quicker than. good. Good job. The eyes are closer to. the brain. I guess now the ear is pretty. [ __ ] close. If your ears are open, there are some pretty complicated signs. though where people will be going for 10. minutes and it was just like, "Yep, that. sounds good." All right. If you had to. guess what this means, what would you. say that means? Uh, do it again. Do it one more time.

Hammer down. Is that Is that what that. is? Not a bad guy. [ __ ] happens, brother. Let's move along. Uh, okay. So, you'll be here tomorrow. Let's talk. about uh the series, Oklahoma City. verse, Indiana. We cannot wait to see. you live in person. We appreciate every. time you travel to beautiful. Indianapolis, Indiana. We'll be outside. Gamebridge Fieldhouse tomorrow starting. at noon. Sean, something season up to. something season. That's all we got to. say. That's all we got to say. Oh, okay. Sean might be starting a new business.

Maybe it's a hair product. Not a bad. idea for how good Sean's hair is. Uh. let's talk about the series here. Oklahoma City, Indiana. Tyrese. Hallebertton was seen limping a little. bit, getting on and off of his uh press. box uh press conference box there. Uh. they have footage of him at shootound. today. He has been moving around. He is. there in the pink shoes. Obviously, the. Halley Ones brought to you by Puma. He. had a hell of a debut in those shoes. He. had a gamewinner in the finals. Next. game, game two, not as great obviously.

for the Indiana Pacers. Game three. tomorrow night, what should we be. thinking? And what was that with Tyrese. or is it a big nothing burger? Everyone around this time of year is. banged up. Dealing with something. I'm. sure Tyres Hallebertton is dealing with. some levels of soreness. He went through. full practice today. I'm told he was. feeling a lot better yesterday going. into today. So, I have not heard any. concern level for his actual game status. for game three in Indianapolis uh on. Wednesday. But listen, everything about. Tyres Hallebertton's postseason this. year, he's had the highest of highs.

There have been obviously some lows, too, like there is on any playoff run, but his numbers are staggering in wins. versus losses in this in these playoff. They haven't lost a ton during the. playoffs, but in wins, he's averaging. almost 21 points over 10 assists. and. the losses about 12 1/2 points and about. seven assists. So clearly when he's. performing better, when he's more. aggressive, when he's putting up. numbers, they're a much better team. obviously. So um I I think how he comes. out back at home, that's going to be a. big sign. But I thought in game one, the.

the Thunder got 19 turnovers out of. Indiana in the first half and they still. lost the game. So to me, it's like. Oklahoma City could clearly feel going. into game three that they should be up. 2. Indiana gets one. So, they took care. of business, but their defense, we've. seen it in both of these games, not only. just in in game two where it was. absolutely stifling. Like, I I was there. at both games, but the way they were. able to get Indiana to get turnovers and. put them in uncomfortable positions and. guarding like the way they're able to. switch every single play, uh, it's it's.

the most elite defense in the league. right now. Um, and that's why you have. to give them a great edge for the rest. of the series. But playing again in in. Indianapolis to me, I know those crowds. are going to be crazy and packed and so. uh you you have to feel good if you're. Indiana going back home. Now Dejano. obviously incredible coach uh as is. coach Carlile. You talk about Dageno. Dageno. I thought it was a little. different. I thought it was Dejo.

Dag. Are you Are you This is his fault. Just call him Dags. Just call him Dags. I just give him a nickname out here. Dags. Okay. All right. Dags. I like Dag. Mark Dag. Dag's a great coach, too. Dageno is a great coach. Uh, obviously. young out there in Oklahoma City with a. team that could be great for, I don't. know, the next 10 years if they are. somehow able to keep everybody together, but they're a young crew. Let's go to. coach Carell on the other side. Obviously been around a long time. He's. top five, I think, and wins in the. playoffs. If he wins another title, he'll obviously have a title with two. different organizations. He's a guy that.

I think coaches hard on the Pacers. Do. you think he's hammering home the. message about Tyrese Allebertton to be. more aggressive? Because I feel the way. Tyrese plays just by watching, he just. kind of lets the game come and if it's. not right for him to kind of be. aggressive, he'll let somebody else do. it. Do you think there is maybe a little. bit more of a messaging to Tyrese within. the Pacers organization that he needs to. think about putting a team on his back. very early and uh how do you think that. gets handled? I I think they have full. trust in him. Listen, Rick Carl, I I've.

talked to players that that have played. for him in past years, whether it's in. Dallas uh or in the past in India in in. Indie and like he's a very direct coach. So, if Rick Carlile brings you to the. office or has a conversation with you, he'll be very blunt. He'll be very. direct. So, I'm sure him and Tyus. Halbert have had some very direct. conversations and Tyres Hallebertton. will listen to his coach. But, I I think. there's a great level of trust for Tyres. Hallebertton to feel out each start of. the game. I I and I do think you you in. the playoffs, Pat, especially in the NBA.

later in these games, even when it's a. blowout, you try to see what you can. find. Any type of momentum is good. momentum. And I think people will make. of Tyres Alurn's fourth quarter and. second half play is like, all right, he. put up points in garbage time when they. were already down 15 plus points. But. listen, he's he did score, I think, 14. points uh in that second half in that. fourth quarter, you know, being a big. one. So maybe he found a rhythm there. Maybe he found something there and we'll. see in game three pretty early on how he. feels. But and we'll say Mark Dagenov,

we were just talking about him. He went. and changed his starting lineup. He took. out Isaiah Hardstein in game one, put in. Case Wallace and I think there was some. feedback, some flak that he got and I. think he could have went back to to the. double big lineup, but he stuck with. Case Wallace in game two. They end up. winning that game by a landslide. And I. I think, you know, this is a Thunder. team that has been changing their. lineups all year. They're they're they. obviously have a very deep team. They. have a guy named Jay Jaylen Williams. Pat, they have a guy named Jay Williams. who literally has shown that he can get.

triple doubles in games. And he. sometimes doesn't play, but these guys. are ready. Andrew Wiggins, you know, he. has a nominal role in game one, then in. game two, he becomes this unsung hero. So, they have such a talented, deep. roster that I think Mark Dagna, I. wouldn't surprise anything with it. Uh, I wouldn't be surprised with anything he. does in game three with his rotation. Well, good luck to Dags figuring it out. here in Indiana. Okay. Cuz it's going to. be tough. Is it going to feel like a. finals game when I watch it though? How. does the league feel about the lack of.

the trophies on the court and on the. broadcast and how it used to be. something that was a big deal? Now it. feels like, okay, we just got a title on. the line here as opposed to visually any. big time changes. Has there been any. conversations about that? Cuz I saw uh. people are not happy about the uh I. believe they were calling them uh uh. bush league ass or or amateur ass. I mean, it's what is that AI? Is that. like what is that even called when you.

just self-impose that in there? Like I I. I think I I think yeah I I'm sure the. fans would much rather it be a real part. of the court, a real element of the. court cuz listen you could put it on the. on that version of it but then you see. and you're actually at the arena and you. see that that trophy is not actually. there. And the other thing is when. whenever they show those the highlights. the trophy is not actually there either. So Mickey Mouse um I think yeah I think. this is a better question for uh for for. other executives not me uh or or the.

league. But Adam Silver did do media. last week in in OKC and and he did say. that they are going to look at this in. in the years to come that I think he. understands how much this means to the. fans and that they're going to take a. look at it. I I I saw there was a quote. I think a decade ago where they said it. was it was safe for the league. Uh it. was more safer for them not to have that. decal there. But then you watch the. inseason tournament and there's this big. inseason tournament where they change. the entire boards. They change the.

entire court for the inseason. I I think. Adam Silver said we're definitely going. to talk about this going forward. Yeah. any team you see in the finals going. forward, we're going to remind them. pretty clearly like, hey, this is a big. remember that in season Mickey Mouse. You wanted to have the feel though. You. wanted to have that nostalgic feel. And. I I remember growing up even in the. playoffs, there would be this like. playoff logo on the court uh for for all. rounds. And then when it got to the. Western Conference Finals, there would. be a Western Conference or Eastern. Conference logo. And then the NBA.

Finals, there would be some, you know, this cursive NBA Finals logo with the. trophy. Yeah, there you go. With a. trophy in the middle. Like there's. definitely some nostalgia. The league. has gotten away from that over the last. several years in the finals. The Super. Duper Cups got a whole new court. It. does. The Super Duper, they they made an. entirely different court for the. inseason super duper cup. That doesn't. even count. And then the actual one, the. actual end of season one. Okay, I guess. that's what we'll call it now. We have. an inseason one. Big deal super duper.

And then we have an end of season one. that has as has a it's like come on. That that feels like a oversight. That. feels like an oversight. That feels like. uh somebody not doing or paying. attention to the situation or. understanding the moment. That's what. that feels like to me. And that could be. a h ah I don't like it. I don't like it. one bit. We We got to start the. petition. Pat, we got to start it. Adam. Adam might show up. Adam might show up. to the live set. You never know. You. never never know. Is that Adam? Speaking. of Adam Silver, is that who you're. talking about? You never know who might.

show up. We can't wait for a brainstorm. session with Adam Silver if he comes to. the show. We would like Adam Silver to. know we appreciate him. We are a big fan. of his. We believe he does great jobs. He did say he did tell me once that he. watches this show during lunchtime. Now, I don't know if that was talking about. my passion for lunch or he or actually. watching at lunchtime cuz it shows up at. lunch. I think it's the latter. I think. it's the latter. I don't think he knows. about my my uh interest in in fetish for. for lunch uh periods of time. Excuse me.

Fetish. I didn't know you're doing I see. you rubbing lunch. I don't think I fully understand how. those work. So, you remember the Gray, what was his. name? Christian Gray. He had a lot of He. had like peacock feathers and stuff. Sean's got that with like forks and. spoons and lunch. Deli and good bread. Don't catch him. bread. Sometimes you're scrambling, Pat. You're scrambling. You know, you have. alerts on your phone to drink water. Sometimes you're just scrambling. You. have oatmeal. I think that one time I.

had oatmeal. I was eating it with a. fork. Wow. That's desperate time. Yeah. Yeah. Poor for desperate measures. All. right. We appreciate you. We'll see you. tomorrow, Shams. You're the man. Good. luck with that fetish of yours. I know. We're eating into the time. 12:30. That's right in the middle of finish. time. That's what we think. Oh my gosh. Ladies and gentlemen, we appreciate you. Senior NBA insider Sean Shirano. What was that all about? Yeah. I don't. know. We know what he's doing with, you. know, his pork sausages. What's that? Let's just say he's beating his meats.

Jeez. Big time. Sounds like he is ping a. little meat down there. Yeah, deli. meats. He loves lunch though. He does. He sets an alarm for lunch. Yeah. And. then he tweeted out a bunch of times, "Yay, it's lunch time." Yes, he did. While while in high school, every day it. was a tweet about lunchtime. Finally, lunch. Every day. Every day. Yeah. I. think there's like. I think there's like hundreds and. hundreds of tweets with Sean Shani going. like, "Time for lunch." For shoot. Is it. like a picture of him actually like what. he got or just just time for lunch. exclamation point. Doesn't even know. what he's getting yet. He just knows. that he's headed to lunch. Some of them.

have like 50 exclamation points. And. then he would use a fork, I think, for. his oatmeal. Yep. And ice cream. How do. you feel about that? That's That's. interesting. What was the comedian that. was the very deep thinking guy? Uh Gary. Goldman, maybe. Yeah, it was him. He. said, "If I walk into your house and I. see fork marks on your ice cream, I know. so much about you. I already know. everything about you. I know that on. numerous occasions you've been laying on. your bed trying to get the corner of the. fitted sheet and you've been jumping.

trying to get that thing on there. He he. said, "I know your pillowcase halfway. off your pillow." Uh if you're using a. fork to eat ice cream, I know the way. you live your life already. Sean. Shirani, I think, is the complete. opposite of the type of person that you. would assume uses a fork for ice cream, especially in that entire bit. But he's. he's an interesting guy. Sean's an. interesting guy. Why would that ever be. a move? If you have no Exactly. That's. the thing. Yeah. All your spoons are dirty. I mean, it takes what? Two seconds to clean a. spoon. No. Yeah, but those type of.

people we're talking about aren't. cleaning their spoons. Yeah, but Sean. Shani is the type of guy I think would. clean his spoon. He's more like American. Psycho. I could see him hand over fist. I mean, joining us now, ladies and. gentlemen, is a man who's a 25-y year. NHL veteran, sixtime. Stanley Cup champion, absolute beast, incredible on ESPN's coverage of the. NHL. Ladies and gentlemen, Mark Messier. How you doing, brother? I'm doing good.

I'm not going to eat my ice cream with a. fork. I I can guarantee you that. Have. you ever? I I I I can't remember ever doing that. But I don't cut my pasta either. So I. I'm not going to do that. Your what? You. don't cut your what? My pasta. Some. people cut their pasta. I mean, who does. that? Okay. So, it's a Canadian thing to. say pasta. Is that pasta? Yeah. Okay. So, sorry about we're eating pasta. Okay. I love I I haven't lost my. Canadian accent. Good. That's great. news. Especially in the world that. you're in now. Uh Moose, let's talk.

about the finals here. Let's talk about. this Florida Panthers team. Obviously, last night was just a full ass beating. both uh fighting, I would say, at the. very end and then also in the game of. hockey. What are your thoughts on what. the Florida Panthers are doing? And was. this just a bad game for Edmonton or is. this a sign of what the rest of the. series is going to look like? do you. think? Well, it's incredible what uh the. Panthers are doing and the energy and. the commitment that they're playing. with. Three straight years to the finals. there. Uh this is a very impressive. hockey team that we're watching right. now. They are completely aligned in.

everything that they do. You talk about. a culture, you talk about having an. identity. Well, we're seeing it. firsthand with the Florida Panthers. right now. What that looks like, what a. culture looks like, what an identity. looks like, how they play to their. systems, and how they play to their to. their talent. Uh this is incredible to. watch. To be honest with you, it was not. a good night for Edmonton. They. completely lost their composure. They. completely lost what they do well in. this game. Uh you know, they basically. took the two greatest players of our. gener of their generation out of the.

game by taking just undisiplined. penalties, not playing with any. discipline whatsoever. Uh and it was not. a good night for the Edmonton Oilers. Uh. having said that, uh the series is a. long way from being over. Uh, I know the. Oilers are going to regroup, but uh, they can't afford to continue to play. like they're playing right now. Uh, that. was not a good look for the Oilers. Uh, they weren't playing tough. That is not. tough hockey. Uh, what's tough hockey is. watching the Florida Panthers play. They're playing tough hockey from.

whistle to whistle. Um, and you know, all the other stuff that the Others were. doing uh, after the whistles was is not. in my estimation anyways called tough. hockey. Yeah. And the Florida Panthers. answered all the after the whistle stuff. that was happening too. That's kind of. their MO. They love being in the mud. down there in the ice. And uh I like the. fact that the team that is the best in. hockey right now is a tough team, an. actual tough team, this Florida Panthers. team. And they take pride in that style. of hockey right there. The last. highlight we showed was Sam Bennett.

getting two hits on two different guys, then I think backing or whatever, then. going down and scoring on the other end. a a a sequence here that basically. embodies who the Florida Panthers are. here as a team and this is in the. Stanley Cup finals. Go ahead, Mark. Oh, you you're you're you just hit the nail. on the head where you talk about. embodying what the Florida Panthers are. This guy is that uh in every sense of he. plays with emotion, but he doesn't lose. composure by doing it. Uh he plays a.

200t game. uh he can wall up you with a. with a body check like we see in the. clip right here, but then to have the. legs to get up ice or get back down the. ice uh uh after the you know long shift. Uh this guy is playing at a high high. level right now that I don't think. anybody really thought that he could get. to. Uh he played great last year. He. played great in the four nations. You. can see the courage that he had in the. four nations thickening up and fighting. for his country against a much bigger. opponent Brady Katruck. Um this is a.

great hockey player that uh is really. having a great series so far. A great. playoff in in total, but uh wow what uh. what what a performance he played last. with last night. Yeah, he's a favorite. to win right now and uh it's been fun to. watch that entire team. Marian just. seems to fit perfectly down there. Now. with all that being said, last night. they had six goals. Five of them. seemingly went to the same spot. stickside high. Debbut has a question. for you. Yeah, you talked about being. physically tough, but mentally tough. obviously is very important when you're. playing at goalie position. Uh, have we.

seen the last of Steuart Skinner. starting in net for this uh series? I I. I don't think so. I I think they got to. go with Skinner again. You know, game. four is going to be a mustwin for the. Oilers there and they're going to have. to put Skinner in there and hope that he. can get the job done. He didn't have a. particularly good night, but I don't put. it all on Skinner to be honest with you. I I don't think the team played well in. front of him. Uh we know Skinner uh if. he gets him time and he can get him. speed set, he can make saves there. But.

they spent the majority of the game on. uh you know killing penalties and you. know Florida did move the puck around. really well towards the end when the. game was out of hand. But uh they have. to ride Skinner at this point. Uh. there's no question about it. Uh I I I. don't see them going making a a change. in goal. Um there was some short side. goals that you talked about. Yeah. goal. No goalie wants to get beat on the short. side on some shots uh that he was beaten. on last night. But let's not forget. those are pretty good shots. A couple of. up in the top corner like you know.

where, you know, you got to thread the. needle up there. But uh ultimately. Skinner's going to have to play better. Uh he's going to have to match Broski, but ultimately the players themselves, the team in front of them got to put him. in position to be successful and they. didn't do that last night. Steu skin all. year. Great. Got hot during the. playoffs. Great. Then you get let six. past you. I do wonder mentally how. you're able to do that. But there's your. point. They were all snipes. Bardon. posting in everything hitting time. But.

but he's done that. He's done a great. job with that. His the last two years of. of of not playing well and being able to. bounce back and come in there and shrug. it off. You talk about being mentally. tough. You talk about being a tough. hockey player. That's the kind of. toughness that we need to see from the. Evans. the the mental toughness that. they have to play with to get back to. their game, including Skinner. They got. to regroup. This is a team that has the. ability to win a Stanley Cup. They got. all the experience. They got all the. tools that that that are needed. They.

got to go out there and find a way that. makes them successful against a very. confident, battleh hardened Florida. Panther team. It's going to be tough to. answer the call here, but I think if. anybody could do it, McDavid, Drive, Cidle, Stew, and the boys can figure it. out. Now, they did show signs of life at. the very end. Go ahead, Tone. Yeah, Moose. They uh they started a five on. five fight when they were down 5-1. towards the end. I've we've seen this. time and time and time in the series uh. this year. If a team is down a ton of. goals, they're like, "Screw it. We don't.

care if we get uh a power play against. us. We're going to start a fight." Is. that an unwritten rule that if you're. down 5-1 in a in a game in a series, you. just start fighting? Look, I I I I just don't see the benefit. of it to be honest with you. I think. that if the Oilers want to play tough, they should be playing tough when the. game's in is still at in the balance. Uh. from the opening faceoff, but the fact. is that both teams have to be more. disciplined. Um I thought there both. teams actually took way too many. penalties, needless penalties, careless. penalties, undisiplined penalties, and.

uh that should have played well into the. uh Oilers hands, but it didn't last. night. They took too many of their own. Uh the the Oilers, if they're going to. win this series, have to be on the top. side of the of the specialty team units. right now, and right now they're not. Uh. they didn't weren't particularly good on. the power play last night. Their penalty. killings struggled. Um and and if it. continues that way, the Oilers are going. to be in tough in this series there. They have to get back to playing a. disciplined hockey game. Uh using their. balance of of that of what we seen in.

the playoffs. They were getting balanced. scoring in the first three rounds of. this playoff series. uh because they. were staying out of the penalty box. They were playing discipline. They were. giving themselves an opportunity and you. and when you got two guys like McDavid. and Dell, give them an opportunity to. make plays in the game. Give them. opportunity even if the game is closed, they should feel comfortable playing in. that kind of game. Uh cuz they can make. plays all over the ice and when the when. it matters most towards the end of the. game. Uh but right now uh they got to. regroup. I I I highly suspect that they.

are going to regroup. Uh they have too. much talent, they have too much. experience now. They got to really kind. of look at what they did in this game. and park it and file it and get. themselves ready to play the kind of. hockey that we've seen them played. throughout the season or and the. playoffs. On that note, Moose, Ty has a. question for you. Yeah, Moose, obviously. you mentioned, I mean, it's still early. in this series, this thing's not done. yet, but when you have a situation like. last night where you not only get your. ass beat on the scoreboard, but you try. to mix things up a little bit and kind. of get your, you know, your lunch eaten.

in a fight like that. Are there any. residual effects moving forward uh for a. situation like that? I I I don't think. so. I mean, like I say, I don't see the. benefit of last night. If I were the. Oilers last night, I would have much. preferred to see them playing uh a hard. game between whistles, continually. taking the body. It was 7-1 and the and. the Panthers were still finishing their. checks, legally finishing their checks. That's the kind of commitment they put. into their team game. I would have much. instead of this, I would have much.

rather seen the Oilers really playing. hard hockey towards the end, really. trying to finish your check and punish. the Oilers and try to look at this as. it's going to go seven games and get the. benefits there. But by slashing people. in the back of the legs and taking cheap. penalties, that's not tough hockey. That's not doing anything to the Florida. Panthers other than embolden them to. what they're doing working. I love to. hear how passionate you are about not. only Edmonton and Weathers, which. obviously you have history, but just the. game itself. Like, hey, this is not how. you're tough. This is not You're.

embarrassing yourself here. This is not. what we need in this entire thing. That's you shaking your head even more. as I say that. That's exactly what. you're saying here. Well, I I I'm saying. exactly like that. There's a way to be. tough and a way to play tough, but being. tough is going back under pressure when. the guy is bearing down on you as a. defenseman and taking the body check and. moving the puck. That's tough. Being. tough is getting in front of the net and. taking a pounding to score a goal. That's tough. This stuff is not tough. That's not tough hockey. And this is not. going to win it for you anything at this. time of year. This is the Florida.

Panthers are playing to their identity. The Oilers got to play to their. identity. This is not the Oilers. identity. I haven't seen the Oilers. They they consider themselves a much. bigger, stronger, more aggressive team, but this is not a way the way to be. aggressive in the playoffs. uh you know. this is not doing anything to the. Florida Panthers. Uh in my in my opinion. anyways there uh I think the Oilers have. lost composure. I think they uh feel. feeling that they're being bullied. The. the Florida Panthers are just playing.

hard hockey, hardnose hockey. They're. finishing their checks every time. The. Oilers got to respond. They got to be. able to take it, get themselves up, pick. themselves up and give it back in the. same way between whistles, hard hockey. Get to the front of the net. take a. check to make a play. That's tough. hockey. Well, you heard the captain. speak to the team. Yeah, it feels like. that's what I I felt like I was in the I. was in the change room with you there. I. feel like after the game, that is. exactly what you would have said. That's. what you want Connor to say basically in.

there to the boys. Hopefully, the. message finds its home. Now, away from. the series, there's other stuff. happening around the NHL. Obviously, it. is a professional league. There are. people that get fired. There people that. move on. There's new jobs. Connor has a. question for you. Moose. Yeah, Moose. Did you see uh Pete Dbor's comments. after these stars were eliminated about. Otter? I know a lot of people, especially stars hand fans, weren't. happy about it. U what did you think. about all of that? He kind of threw. Otter under the bus and then things got. contentious, I guess, in the exit.

interviews uh with players just around. their feelings about it. Uh and do you. think that's probably the right move for. the Stars to go in a different direction. just because they haven't been able to. kind of get over that hump uh since. Dor's been there? Yeah, look at Pete Debor is a great guy. I have a lot of respect for him as a. coach. His record speaks for itself. Uh. it was a puzzling move that he made uh. at that point. Uh as a as as a leader, you're looking for your leader to. stabilize things. Uh it was a to me it. seemed like a rash decision. Um I'm not.

sure why he did it other than maybe some. frustration. Uh but I think the players and everybody. else were just as much a shock as as we. were. And uh obviously that's that's. what happened. But uh you know composure. is is is is very very important when the. pressure is on and when the pressure. gets to its highest levels and you're. looking for your leaders to make really. good decisions and keep a level head and. keep the you know everything kind of. simmering uh uh and give the team.

confidence that you believe in them. Uh. I I didn't think it was a good move and. ultimately he paid for the price for it. How much can a coach change things? For. instance, I'm a Pittsburgh Penguins fan. and I uh I seen Coach Muse for the first. time on a photo that you know, beast. change of things. Yeah, you heard his. voice, though. I heard his voice, too. He's got a deeper voice and it's like, okay, I know nothing about this guy. I I. think I probably should, but I know. nothing about him other than this photo. in one 30 secondond clip of listening to. him speak. Whenever you get a new coach.

in town, what should we be looking for? like I I if he's had success in previous. places, his style of coaching, like in. hockey, what is the most important thing. for a coach to be able to do? More. specifically, this Pittsburgh Penguins. team getting back in the Stanley Cup. conversation. Well, you can throw away. all the X and O's there because I think. it's pretty much a copycat league and. everybody's trying basically doing the. same systems and and whether you can. communicate that well is another thing. To me, it's all about can you inspire a. player? Can you uh help the player.

believe in himself uh and and then the. team? Can you give them a a road map and. and a and a belief system that what. we're going to do and how we're going to. approach this year is going to bring us. success and then see success on top of. that. That to me is what is what makes a. great coach. Um and I think that some do. it very well and we we've seen a history. of of coaches that have lasted a long. time. Um, uh, you know, I I I just have.

so much respect for the coaching. institution and the and the and the. people that do it really really really. really really well and it's not easy. Uh, there's a lot of things that coaches. have to deal with, but ultimately you're. talking about interpersonal. relationships as a head coach. You're. talking about how to can I get the best. out of this player. You have to get to. know that player on a deep level. Uh, because sometimes players need a kick in. the ass. Other times they need a pat. back. You can't treat every player the. same. Uh there's so much that goes into.

the psychology of coaching and to get. the best of your players. Uh but the the. guys that do it well, and we're seeing a. classic case of this happening uh in. Florida right now with Paul Maurice, a. seasoned veteran coach, has had a lot of. failures in his in his coaching career. He's learned a lot. But when you see the. coach and the the player relationship. that we're seeing in Florida right now, that is as a higher level as it gets. Uh. the the the synergy, the belief, the.

trust, uh the in the inspiring. um relationship. Uh and and and what. you're seeing, the net result of that is. the way they're playing on the ice and. collectively together. uh the the the. coach gives the players a voice in the. room. There has to be peer pressure in. the room. Uh and if there's not, the. coach can't fix that. The coach has to. let the players drive the bus. Maurice. has done an amazing job of doing that.

all the while giving them guidance and. and correction along the way. Uh it's. but that's that's what it looks like in. its purest form. And I know there's many. other examples that we've seen in other. sports and with great coaches from Phil. Jackson to Pat Riley and all the great. greatest coaches that ever ever coached. Uh you know, Bill Walton talking about. the great uh coach in in UCLA saying. that they never used to even talk about. basketball. They used to talk about. life, you know, and and that's one of. the greatest coaches of all time. So, um.

yeah, we're seeing a really great. example of it uh in Florida right now. Yeah, Mo seemingly speaks for the group. The culture in football normally driven. by the coach. Coach will want to set the. culture. You know, GM gets the players, coach sets the culture, players have to. institute culture. Players always have. to police themselves. Every sport, we're. adults. Locker room has to control. locker room, but the coach is the one. that's basically saying, "Hey, this is. the type of team we're going to be. This. is what I want it to be. Here's the. thoughts." Same thing in hockey like.

that Florida Panthers culture. Marawn. goes down there. We know exactly what. their culture is. We watch what they we. watch them. We know exactly what their. culture is. Is that Mo setting the tempo. and then Kachchuck and the boys taking. it to uh as their own? Well, I think it. goes from ownership right down to the. general manager, right down to the. coaching staff and they have a belief. system of what the culture is going to. be and then how they're going to. actually play the game. And then you. identify players that can fit into that. culture. And then when they come into. the team, you have the leadership that. that enables those players to come in.

and be themselves and their own. personalities, but actually play to the. system. There has to be a belief system. inside the locker room that what we're. doing is correct. The way we're going to. play, the way we're going to try to win. a Stanley Cup is correct. And so far, the Florida Panthers have done a great. job identifying a way to win in the. league as it sits right now. Uh they. play hard-nosed old school hockey that. we haven't seen and it's working. They're big, they're strong, they're. skilled, but they're most most important.

than anything, they're dedicated to the. system. They're dedicated to the culture. and they got the leadership to can to to. can can uh spread the word when they. have new players assimilate into the. into the system like they have again. this year. eight or nine or seven or. eight new guys again this year that have. been brought in, wrap their arms around. them. Uh bring them into the fold, show. them what the the Florida Panther way is. on and off the ice. Uh that's building a. culture. Uh you know, sometimes culture. gets way too overused and nobody even.

knows what the hell they're talking. about when they're talking about. culture. But we're seeing it right now. with the Florida Panthers. Everybody's. trying to get one. Only a few have it. And those people are the ones that play. the longest seasons in all the leagues. cuz they're the ones that are winning. Let's talk about winning. Let's talk. about what you're doing today. I believe. you are golfing uh at an outing for. Answer the Call. I just looked up this. information. New York Police and Fire. Widows and Children's Benefit Fund, who. has been supporting heroes and their. families of the New York Fire. Department, New York Police Department,

PAPD. I don't think I know what that is. Um Port Authority. Port Authority. Port. Authority. Okay. police department since. 1985. Thank you for doing that and thank. you to Answer the Call. Uh how long have. you been working with Answer the Call. and what does today look like for you? Well, today's is always an amazing day. when we're here supporting the families. that have lost their loved ones in the. line of duty for uh to protect all of. us. Uh I've been on the board. somewhere around uh 10 years now, maybe. Um you know, shortly after 911. Uh Rusty.

Stab started this charity way back when. to help uh the the the families that had. lost their their their fathers or. mothers or sisters or brothers in the. line of duty after 9/11. Uh it put so. much pressure on the charity to come up. with the funds to actually take care of. these kids and these families. Uh New. York has supported this charity. unbelievably through the years. Um. obviously for all the right reasons. uh. New York has stood up and and and been.

counted when it matters most and uh it's. been a it's been an incredible. experience for me uh the relationship. that I have with the NYPD and the Port. Authority and the FDNY. Um but most. importantly uh supporting these families. uh especially after 9/11 when it put so. much pressure on all these families uh. financially. Hell yeah, Moose. We. appreciate you doing that. We appreciate. obviously those who serve our community. because you know those who run towards. danger as opposed to away from it are a.

superhero. So you paying tribute to. them. I I agree with that buddy. Yeah. You paying tribute to them and their. families and helping them out. You're a. good man, Mark. We appreciate the hell. out of you. We'll talk to you soon. All. right, Moose. Yeah, man. Let's go. Hell. yeah. That's you've given two, three. speeches today that have made me want to. put the boots on and skate through a. wall. Ladies and gentlemen, six time. Stanley Cup champion Mark Messier. Oo. Six times. Six times. 25 years, brother. That's insane. He lived in a change. room. Yeah. I mean, he's still in. That.

was awesome. He's still in it. He's. going to hit the ball 400 yd off the tea. today. He's pissed. He's pissed at the. Oilers. That's not what toughness is. Tough isn't slashing or hitting guys. behind the legs, on the wrists, getting. your ass beat in fights. Toughness is. standing in front of him in a goal, sacrificing your body so you can score. Take a hit, move the puck. Toughness is. knowing that you're going to take a hit. Still doing finishing your checks. Listen to him like him in the change. room. You can see him doing one of. these. You think you're tough. You think. that's not tough. And then you all.

you're doing is empowering them. That is. what they want to do. That's awesome. That was that was literally him just. getting dropped right back into Edmonton. being like that. You think that stuff? Think about him watching that game. Oh. god. Holy mother. So pissed. The amount. of pride he has for Edmonton too. like. he's, you know, not biased, but he's. definitely pulling for the Oilers. All. right, we have some updated without a. doubt. They Conor McG. might not be. I don't know. Okay, I. think Conor's going to gather the team. and say to him, "That's not." That was.

awesome. He was literally giving him a. speech. Hey, I don't know if you're. listening. Dry side [ __ ] Stew, you. need to stop. You I'm making all the. excuses for you here. Need to stick by. him. He's a guy. Get his ass back out. there. Yeah, he's done. That's Florida. Panthers fan. No, no, get him back. Hey, look, he's he's shown ability to bounce. back, you know, and play hot. Uh, someone in Gumpy said he would turn back. into a pumpkin. I'm glad he did, but. we'll see if he bounced back. Gumpy also. not good. Conca loses to the number two.

team in TST in the semifinals. I don't. know if you saw the finals last night. Electrifying. So good. Absolutely. electrifying. Bad pitch. Bumpy pitch. The lads from. Bumpy Pitch. Yeah. Glad to see they were. calling slide tackles last night. So. Gumpy and the refs of TST certainly have. a relationship. Uh I don't know if it's. necessarily a great relationship, but. it's certainly a relationship. Gumpy. told me because I was not able to be. there. Uh Gumpy told me that the refs. told him, "I missed the call. I'm I. forgot that was the rule. I'm so sorry.".

And then uh Gumpy says, "You're. terrible." Or something. And the guy. said, "I was just trying to tell the. truth, man." And Gumpy said, "You. shouldn't have. You should have lied to. me. This is shit." He said he forgot the. rule. And then his assistant said, "I. told you the rule three times in your. ear." And he said he didn't hear that, too. So, it was a few things there that. got to where we were. And then a ref. goes, "I was just trying to tell the. truth." And Gumpy goes, "Your shite and. your shite." Total. Did you hear the. other ref story? Uh-uh. Uh, the picture. went out of the of the conc. And Connor.

texted Gumpy and said, "Why are you not. in this picture?" He said, "I was. yelling at the ref." Oh, yeah. Whenever. we got a whole team photo. Yeah. Gumpy. was over there in the middle of the. pitch. Just let him have it. We won that. game. Huge one. Oh, Brook apology, too. Sorry, Brick. Yeah, you were not long in the tooth, Greta. I told you. Hey. Hey, Greta. Time to hang up the. boots, lad. No. No. He played that ball. in the winner, dude. All right. Um, we. got to correct a story. Shamar Stewart,

we said his agent must be a super. genius. It's kind of slotted in there. What are we doing? You're the 17th. overall pick. The CBA has this thing. Pro Football Talks Mike Furio has. reported as previously explained. So I. guess he has done this before. Not. enough people saw it and uh that is what. he is saying. Uh the Bengals have. decided to wedge a new clause into. Shadar Stewart's deal. Uh the clause. would turn a default in any given year. into a void of all remaining guarantees. In prior Bengals contracts, a void wiped. out only the guarantee for the year in. which the default occurred. Uh Stewart. refuses to be the guinea pig for the new.

term and the Bengals refused to blink. As a result, Shamar Stewart will be less. prepared for training camp than he would. have been. Okay. So, the Bengals are. doing Bengals still. I respect it. I. respect what he's doing. I like what the. agent's doing. I'm not going to be the. first one. What are you How am I. supposed to tell? He's also a young. agent. Yeah. So, I'm a young agent. I'm. supposed to just tell this. Yeah. For. the first time ever, we're agreeing. this. No way. Why are the Bengals doing. this? They're the worst. That's And just. Shamar and the agent. We apologize for. not knowing that before. Fio tried to. tell us. Hour two is on the other side. We'll talk to you then.

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could go on and on. I can't explain. every natural phenomenon. The tide, the. grass, the ground. Oh, that was Maui. just messing around. I couldn't bury it. Guts sprouted the tree. Now you got. coconuts. What's the lesson? What does. it take away? Don't mess with Maui when. he's on a breakaway. And the temperature. here on my skin is a map of the. victories I win. Look where I've been to. make everything happen. Look at the me. just tickity tapping. That's it. Unreal. Wow. Still got it. On the Simone side, Polynesian side, we have a word called.

mana. Mana is spirit. Mana is power. Mana comes from in here. It's a thing. that gives you goosebumps. It's that. thing you feel. It's that thing when I. walked out and we felt this thing. This. is mana. This is mana. It's very, very, very real. And you. could feel it. Little things like I. don't get driven anywhere. I don't want. to get driven anywhere. I don't like. chauffeers. keeps me in my way just a. little grounded. Like I could drive. myself everywhere and not telling some. guy, "Hey, take me here or take me. there." That is something I'm going to. start saying like, "Yuck." Cuz when they. open your door, you feel so bad. I can.

open my own door, dude. They're trying. to be courteous. It's their job. But. also, the day I stop opening my own door. is the day I become big old [ __ ] Here. we go. Sorry. Sorry, Mike. Here's the iconic. sound. You guys know it. This special Terramman toast goes out to. Passion. Congratulations on your show. Very proud of you. Very proud of all you. boys. And to all of you. Love you guys. Thank you for the.

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to our humble vote. The Thunderdome on. this offseason football Tuesday June. 10th 2025 hour two of the program begins. now. Sports are happening all around us. We. just got a chance to chitchat with Mark. Messier. I read one person on X who runs. like a coaching leadership university. say that Mark Messier just put on a. master class on building culture, leadership, and coaching others on this. particular program. And I agree. There.

was three different speeches he gave. that I wanted to go run through the. nearest wall and go get the job done. Will the Edmonton Oilers adhere to his. advice, adhere to his leadership, and. answer the call after the Florida. Panthers win 6-1 last night down in. Florida and take a commanding 2 to1 lead. in the Stanley Cup final. They could go. backto back as Stanley Cup champions for. the eighth time in the league's history. They'd be a dynasty that people would be. forced to talk about forever. And are. they done just after this season? I. don't think so. They're seemingly. continue to be on the rise down there in.

Sunrise, Florida with Kachchuck, Sam. Bennett, and all the boys buzzing. But. Conor McDavid, Dry Cidle, Steuart. Skinner, and boys from Edmonton have a. chance to represent all of Canada to be. the first Canadian franchise to win the. Standing Cup since 1892. Yeah. Jeez. Wait, what was that? Salem Witch Trials. 1993. Feels like it's been since 1814. since a Canadian program has won the. Stanley Cup. Their game, our league, we.

win again. The Philadelphia Panthers. obviously filled with a bunch of. Canadian players. Hey, I don't think. they have any. Yeah, no Canadian players. down there. No Canadian products, no. Canadian accents, no nothing on that. Florida Panthers team. With that being. said, Conor McDavid on the other side. Worth a watch and I'll be excited to see. how he answers. I assume there's some. cameras behind the scenes somewhere. Can't wait to see how the entire year. has kind of an this guy. that's in a Stanley Cup final against. the Stanley Cup champions against that.

dynasty team I was just chitchatting. about. It could be. That was against. that team in one of the biggest games of. the entire hi. Oh, come on. I see you. That guy's on the other team. And the. photo Panthers beat them six to1 somehow. last night. Will they be able to. continue this run? We shall see. The NBA. finals continues tomorrow night here in. Indianapolis, Indiana. We will be live. outside the site of tomorrow night's. game, the Gainbridge Fieldhouse at. Bsentennial Plaza, starting at noon. Beautiful backdrop. We would actually do. the show there every day if we could.

Mhm. Because of how nice the backdrop. is. nicest backdrop we've ever had. So, getting a chance to go down there and. celebrate the NBA finals. If you're in. town from Oklahoma City, please feel. free to stop by. Obviously, if you're in. the area, not working, which could be a. difficult thing, please come through. I. believe summer has hit for a lot of. schools, uh, college and high school and. everything like that. I think tomorrow. should be a fun day downtown. Indianapolis with perfect weather. celebrating this Indiana Pacers team who. obviously is tied in the NBA finals. Game one's ours. Tyrese Hallebert and. cold game. Game two, they they kind of.

did their thing. They did their thing to. the Indiana Pacers. Now Oklahoma City's favored by five and. a half in Indiana. We shall see. We'll. be kicking it all off tomorrow. The. toxic tables here at Boston Conor at Tai. Schmidt. Go ahead, comment. OKC's 0 and. seven against the spread as a favorite. on the road, I believe was the stat that. was sent in. One half of the hammer. down. On the other side, the Pacers are. completely defeated in game three. So, one of those is going to have to Yeah, the game three thing with the Pacers is. very real. 200 in all the other series I.

believe. Yes, they've stolen them uh on. the road because they were obviously. lower ranked than everybody else that. they've had to play against because the. Indiana Pacers beginning of their season. was us. Oklahoma City has been playing. great since the beginning of the season. Oklahoma City is the team that everybody. said we should be talking more about. SJ. is going to be the MVP. He was. Chad. Holgrim is not just good for bad. commercials. He's also good on the. court. He is. This coach Dags, which. people are calling a lot of different. names, wizard, genius. this Oklahoma. City fan base best in best atmosphere in.

the NBA. People have been saying that. all year about this Oklahoma City team. For the Indiana Pacers, nobody's been. saying that but us. Although since. February, they've had the best record in. the NBA alongside the Oklahoma City. Thunder. They were kind of outcasts. Overrated is what everybody said. No. chance of going on a run. Well, what? Well, now what? In the finals, 1-1. First home game coming. I'll be excited. to see how the Pacers answer after a. loss. Haven't lost back-to-back games. since March. It's a long time. Since.

March. Haven't won a game three. So, that's going to have to give as well. Nine-year NFL vet Darius Jay Butler is. here. Donna come down to that man right. there. It's going to come down to Hie. How does he set the tone? Um, obviously. with this series, he's going to have to. score more. He's going to have to be. aggressive from the jump to get his team. going. We know how he does distributing. the ball. uh but uh turning up and. turning up his aggressiveness on the. offensive end late in the game as I. don't think that's going to work against. this OKC team because they just keep on. going going going the whole 60 minutes. So um I'm sure Carlile will have the.

boys ready to roll and I'm excited about. this match up tomorrow for sure. Me too. Uh game bridge should be buzzing. I. believe we'll be in there. I cannot wait. to feel that. You know the finals. atmosphere. Oh yeah. It's different just. like the conference finals final four. minutes. Connor Connor pointed it out. and was like, "Hey, this is it. This is. it right here. There's a buzz that is. palpable throughout this entire arena. The Pacers are going to the finals. Holy. hell, we just won the Eastern. Conference. Last year, we made it to the. Eastern Conference finals. Nobody.

expected us to do it. Nobody talked. about it cuz we got swept by the Boston. Celtics who inevitably go." We're back. We win it. Now, we're going to the. actual finals. How do you feel? We feel. great. I think that's how Oklahoma City. fans feel as well. It's a great time for. us to be fans. We're going to enjoy the. [ __ ] out of it. It's going to be loud. It's going to be a good environment. It's going to be a great game. Pascal. see aam going bananas would be sweet. too. Any one of those. Yeah, that would. that would be very cool. Watching him do. a couple of those wow whoopde-ws that he. does those things with. He is absolutely. spectacular to watch in person cuz he's. way too tall to be moving the way he is.

Can't wait to see this guy. 6'6 they say. true SGA with the way he moves and. everything he does. Cannot wait to. watch. It's going to be fun. Uh should. be exciting tomorrow night. Okay, we. start at noon tomorrow. Come join us. outside. Joining us now live from. Manatakin, Ohio is a man who's college. football national champion, Super Bowl. champion, runner cup winner, father 10, ladies and gentlemen, AJ Hawk. Hawker obviously uh big news around the. sports world. Last night the Panthers uh. get a big- time win. They're up 2-1. The. NBA finals uh continues tomorrow night.

We'll be live noon uh outside. Gamebridge. A lot of football talk, AJ. A lot of football talk. And let's start. with a man that is your best friend. Aaron Rogers went to a golf outing. yesterday. All of Pittsburgh's buzzing. They love him. They love that he's. there. Have you gotten a sense from. Aaron on how he feels? And uh this. morning, Zack Frasier was speaking to. the media. He's the center for the. Pittsburgh Steelers out of West Virginia. University, formerly of Morgantown High. School, uh where West Virginia. University is based. Absolute dog uh for.

the Pittsburgh Steelers. He said Aaron. Rogers addressed the team this morning. and told him he's all in from here on. Wasn't able to commit. I think Aaron's. message has been very clear this entire. offseason if you were willing to listen. Now, if everything he says, you think to. yourself, "Oh, [ __ ] I hate this. guy. You're never going to hear this.". But if you listen to what he says, he's. been telling truth the entire time. I'm. not able to commit to anybody through. OTAAS. So, I can't do that. That is just. something that I in my life I cannot do. right now. After OTAAS, I can make a.

decision then if you're cool with that. The Steelers, I guess, behind closed. doors created an offense for Aaron. Rogers. I guess they had a lot of faith. that Aaron Rogers was going to commit. after OTAAS. They were very okay with a. 40 plus year old 20-year plus future. first ballot hall of famer Mount. Rushmore football player missing the. voluntary uh OTAAS. So they've been. ready for him. Seems like he's probably. been ready for him. And now in. Pittsburgh after he goes to Cam. Hayward's golf outing and meets people. and showcases uh a little bit of you. know positivity in the city and.

embracing the city. I think all of. Pittsburgh's excited for him. Age, what. are you hearing from Aaron? Yeah, I mean. I think Aaron is very engaged and he's. he's juiced. I think anytime you have. have like a change of scenery, anytime. it's something new, like think about. that. Walking into a new facility, like. everything is new, even though you're. what, 20 years into your your NFL career. and you've won a Super Bowl and MVPs and. all of this, I still think something new. and novel can can energize you. Now, I. know we we said this about the Jets. whole situation. We saw how that worked. out. That was obviously a brutal. situation with the Achilles to kick it.

off, but I don't know. I think maybe. people's expectations aren't as sky-high. as they were when he first joined the. Jets. So maybe uh we're we're uh you. know we're on the path for some good. things for this Pittsburgh Steelers. team. Yeah, I absolutely agree with what. you're saying. I don't I don't think. anybody outside of the Pittsburgh. Steelers u maybe locker room and family. members are saying let's win a Super. Bowl with this team. You know, every. team has to have that mindset. Every. team in the locker room is like, "Hey, we're going to win a Super Bowl. We're. going to have a team that's going to be. able to do it." Joe Thomas, legendary.

Cleveland Brown, never made the. playoffs. Never even thought about. making a playoffs. No, he's a Hall of. Famer, this guy for one team. He said. every year they went into the season. thinking they were going to win a Super. Bowl. He said there was never a moment. where he was like, "You know what? This. team is going to end up being completely. defeated." Now, as the season's going. on, I'm sure those moments cracked in. But in training camp, in the offseason, at some point, you have to believe that. what you're doing is right. So, in the. Pittsburgh Steelers locker room, I. assume there's a lot of belief like, "Hey, look what we were able to do.

without Aaron Rogers. We get Aaron. Rogers in here another year with Arthur. Smith's offense. Our defense is always. going to be good. Special teams are. going to be good. The AFC North is. obviously going to be difficult, but why. not us? If we get in, we can go on a. run. But I don't think there's many even. Steelers fans like saying going to. definitely going to win the Super Bowl. this year. I think they're going to be. better. I think Steelers fans think. they're going to be better. I think. they're going to win more games. I think. they're going to have a chance to do a. playoff run, but I don't think anybody's. like guaranteeing a Super Bowl like what. was kind of happening with the Jets. Oh. yeah, that was kind of happening with.

the Jets cuz of how desperate the Jets. fans have been to feel that feeling. That was like the first time in a long. time they've even been able to be like. yeah, we we can win a Super That was the Jets. world. Steelers world vastly different. It's just like think we can be better, think we can win some playoff games, but. it's not like a guarantee that a Super. Bowl is coming like what it felt in the. Jets. No, I haven't seen any Steelers. fans saying like, "Oh, we're definitely. going to the Super Bowl because we got. Aaron Rogers." the majority of them um. are pretty levelheaded in thinking that.

Aaron definitely gives them a better. possibility to win football games, maybe. get a playoff win, but no, I haven't. heard anyone say that they're going to. the Super Bowl. But it's awesome to see. Aaron assimilate himself so quickly with. the boys. What was there like 25 guys at. the golf outing in that photo here? Shout to Cam Hayward, by the way, continuing to be a pillar in the city of. Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. Legend in. Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. And also. legend in football, guys. Future Hall of. Famer. Good on him getting all the boys. there. Well, getting all the boys like. it it shows you just how great of a. leader he is. He's also former Walter.

Payeyton man of the year. So, he does. he's always doing stuff for the. community. Hell yeah. But to see Aaron. there to see Aaron that Aaron's. comfortable enough to stand up in front. of the team today and say that he's all. in. He's locker mates with Frier Mu and. I saw a report that he's going to go. with Muth to the US Open as well this. week. He's Pittsburgh's alive. He's. already part of the team. I think Aaron. said he he wants to go Plum High School, too. He does. Yeah. Why not? He wants to. go see the Mustangs a little bit. There's somebody in Plum that heard that. that thing says real. I'm not I'm making. that up. Okay. He is not. They should do.

a training camp practice from Plum. I. know the Bengals used to come to. Centerville High School and have a whole. day of of camping full pads at our high. school. It was a gigantic event. Don't. do anything the Bengals do. Yeah. I'm. sorry to the players actually. I'm sorry. to the players actually. I don't want. Pittsburgh to have to get in buses and. travel and dress in high school locker. room. Steelers Steelers say, "Yeah, we're on that." And then, you know, it's. kind of Yeah. But but if they were to do. it, Plum would be a great home. Hey, Plum would love to have you. Uh joining. us now is a man who probably knows more. about what's going on in Cincinnati than.

we do. I I would hope he does. I don't. know if you read the same report uh that. we did about Florio and what Florio's. reporting about the number 17 overall. pick, not agreeing to a deal yet with. the Cincinnati Bengals. The way Florio. is reporting it, as previously. explained, I've reported this before. Okay, as previously explained, this. ain't the first time. I'm like, nobody's. listening to me, obviously. Bingo. He's. like, everybody keeps saying the wrong. [ __ ] which we were one of them. So, we. appreciate him saying that he has. reported this before and we missed it. We apologize for missing it. Yeah, the.

Bengals are exercising a new clause. We. dug through the CBA, figured out that we. could actually void all the years. remaining instead of just the year that. the uh whatever takes place happens. So, we're going to try this out with the. number 17 overall pick. and his agent. said, "I'm young, but I'm not that dumb. Can't be doing that to me." So now. there's no end in sight because I assume. the Cincinnati Bengals are like, "Set. precedent with this deal. This is what. we would like the future deals to look. like." And Shamar Stewart and his agent. are like, "No, how is that? Why is that. our life?" And then I assume his agent.

is saying, "Why don't you guys figure. out Trey Hendrickson, too, if you're. going to be trying to sneak new clauses. into our world?" Joining us now, insider, analyst, Emmy award winner, friend of the program, New York Knicks. super fan, ladies and gentlemen, Peter. Shger. Okay, so we saw Florio say, as. previously explained, which was him. saying, "You should have seen this or. known this a long time ago, the Bengals. are trying to put in a new clause into. Shamar Stewart's contract. This has not. happened with previous Bengals draft.

contracts is how Florio is reporting it. Do have you heard anything out of this? And what are your thoughts on this? I. thought the CBA regulated exactly how. much everybody's getting when. I guess. that's not the case. Shanks, well, it. used to be the assumption the last. several years that where you're drafted. is kind of what you're paid. So, the. idea of a rookie hold out would be. completely illogical. You're going to. get paid what you're owed just based on. the structure of it. Now, I think I. think Shamar Stewart's agent's an. interesting guy. Zack Hiller's his name. He's also James Cook's agent and he was.

Dvin Cook's agent and he's a young cat. He's about 30 years old and he kind of. beats to his own drum and he's saying. what he's saying and the Bengals are. saying what they're saying and if you're. going to take it for its word you would. look at the Bengals handling of the Trey. Hendrickson situation saying well that. seems pretty unorthodox as well and a. little uncoser with how that's being. done. Um, but they were just going to. take the deal that was given to Shamar. He hasn't stepped foot on a practice. field and that was including rookie mini. camp and that's including this mini. camp. And guess what? Training camp's. right around the corner. And you almost.

think you draft the 17th overall pick as. a defensive end in a physical freak to. be the guy who could ultimately replace. Trey Hendrickson. And there seems to be. contract issues with both of them. Uh, not the case in 31 other training camps, but it seems to be the case in. Cincinnati. Okay, so we see where Shreg. sits in this entire thing for that last. statement. A lot of Bengals fans are. saying, "Why you guys got to bury us?". It's like because this [ __ ] does happen. with you guys and it seemingly doesn't. happen anywhere else. Now, will Duke be. able to take care of it? I assume. I.

assume when push comes to shove, this. will all get sorted. This will all get. figured out. Like, I think the Trey. Hendrickson deal will get figured out. Like, I I think that will happen. I. think there will be some sort of. agreement or maybe he gets traded. I. think there will be a decision that gets. figured out. Shamar Stewart has to be on. the field for training camp. I mean, this isn't even like uh okay, number 17. overall. I feel like they get it figured. out. Why do these teams continue to push. things down the road, though? Now, I. guess we could say Shamar Stewart could. have taken a deal earlier, too, so we. could put blame on him. But let's look. at the Pittsburgh Steelers. We always. talk about Aaron Rogers being there, Cam.

Hayward putting things together. TJ Watt. missing mini camp. Terry McLaren missing. mini camp. There's a lot of guys that. are missing mini camp for one reason or. another. Most of them just business. reasons. What are your thoughts on how. some of these teams handle things? And. when you look at these guys, what do you. think is probable outcomes for any of. them? Well, I I really appreciated Mike. McDaniel's candid honesty today, saying. John and Jaylen aren't there, and I. don't have updates on the trades, and. it's unfortunate they're not there. because of business. And for John. Smith's case, it sounds like he was sick.

and tired of hearing his name mentioned. in trade talk. So, I'm not going to come. to this. Um, McLaren, obviously, contract situation. Stewart, rare rookie. deal. Hendrickson contract situation. Then we got TJ White. They had JJ in. there a week ago and JJ Watt's like, "I'm not talking on this. Obviously, something's brewing." TJ Watt probably. saw the off season in which Miles. Garrett got paid what he got paid. Saw. it some of these other top pass rushers. being paid and says, "Well, what about. me?" Fortunately, he's got years left on. his contract. Fascinating when you get.

these that go and bleed into this. because the last thing you want is for. it to dominate your training camp. And. that is what the 49ers have had the last. several years. So this year they decided. to nip it in the bud and pay their guys. Perie, Warner, KD before we even get to. this point. Two different strategies. Do. you play hard ball? Do you play chicken? Do you let this thing drag on as a team? Or do you say, "Well, we want you. You. want to be done. Let's get it done now. so we can avoid any drama heading into. the season." I believe a lot of 49ers.

people thought what was going on with. Brandon Iayuk last year that bled all. the way into late August had a direct. response to how the season went because. everyone was dealing with that all. summer. So to me it's fascinating how. these front offices work. Omar Khan. obviously pulled a rabbit out of his hat. and I think the Rogers situation might. not have been as seamless as everyone. wants but right now it's Kumbaya and. you'll see him speak today and all is. good. This one though, if you're a. Steelers fan, is almost more important. because it's TJ Watt. It's one of ours.

It's our guy. It's our defensive player. of the year. And that's the heart and. soul of our team. Can we take care of. that as well? Yeah. Aaron getting $10. million guaranteed, I think, is great. news for Pittsburgh Steelers fans and. how they view it. TJ Watt, the last. person introduced whenever the defense. is introduced onto uh the field for at. home games. So obviously he's a pillar. piece, but him potentially getting 3540. million a year verse Aaron getting 10. million a year is certainly the the. piece of the conversation in the. entirety. I'll be excited to see how.

Omar Khan gets TJ to sign it cuz. everybody assumes TJ remains with the. Pittsburgh Steelers. But what if he. isn't? What if TJ Watt isn't a. Pittsburgh Steelers? What if TJ Watt is. playing somewhere else? Got a picture. JJ left Houston. That's not possible. He's a one helmet guy. Omar's going to. get it done. Like you said, you you. talked about, we haven't paid the. quarterbacks in what, 3 years. We. haven't had to pay a quarterback since. Ben retired, really. Um top of top of. the market money. So, like the money's. out there. TJ's going to get paid. He's.

going to get what he deserves, which is. a dollar more than Miles Garrett. Uh and. then we're just going to play full. Maybe it will be an actual dollar more. Now, another guy you mentioned there, AJ. has a question about. Yes, Shriggs. With. Trey Henderson, I personally I don't I. don't think they come to to terms and. find a way to get him a new contract. I. just feel like with what's been going on. he him showing up in the golf clothes. and speaking to the media to let him. know everyone know like his side of the. story I don't see a deal happening. What. do you think personally happens with. Trey in Cincinnati and can they trade. him? Where could he possibly go? Like. what what do you think happens here.

before the season? This one's sticky. because he's beloved and he's beloved in. the locker room and the team really. likes him. Um he mentioned on your show. he met his wife in Cincinnati, he had. his kid in C. he wants to be a Bengal. and simply saying, "Look at the market. It doesn't make sense for what I'm being. paid." I can tell you the Bengals. approached this off season with two. priorities. Somehow someway getting T. Higgins and Jamar Chase to remain a. Cincinnati Bengals in their free agent. contract years. And guess what? They did. it. Then they get this bomb dropped on.

them around the combine that Trey. Hendrickson wants to be paid 3040. million. And that they don't they didn't. budget for that. They didn't prepare for. that. Now, they've had some time with. him, not only speaking on your show, but. also speaking to the local media, showing up in what appeared to be a golf. attire, said, "Here I am. I'm gonna talk. to you guys openly." There has been. enough time if they wanted to get this. done, they could have figured this out. and found a way to find the budget and. the numbers before training camp. They. haven't moved heaven and earth to do.

that. So, they're at a standstill right. now. And he's gone about it in such an. unorthodox way. He's not going through. an agent. He's not going on some. podcast. He's like, I'm going to show up. in my golf attire, be on the sidelines, and I am also going to go on McAfee and. going to speak with Pat directly about. how I feel. Everyone feels he's he's a. good guy and he's done this right. He's. turning 31. They look at dollars and. cents and they look at a pie as a. budget. And does this pie make sense to. have that much of our salary cap devoted.

to a guy who led the league in sacks. last year? But we don't know if he's the. future of this franchise. So Trey. Hendrickson saying, "With that being. said, let me go somewhere else. Let me. go somewhere else. Let me figure that. out." And the Bengals are like, "Nah, you still under contract with us, I. think. Isn't that kind of you want me to. trade away the sack king?" Yeah, right. Yeah, right. And Trey Hendrickson's. trying to do it the right way. Like, but it's the wrong way. It's so. That's the thing. I I think that's. interesting. So the right way might mean. not necessarily stupid. Yes. He's. talking openly and being transparent and.

putting his heart on his sleeve. He's. also not living up to his contract. Yeah. Well, he would say I lived up way. past my contract because I'm the sack. king with how much I got paid in the. entirety of it all. But then with you. saying he's missing mandatory mini camp, like that's also part of the contract. And then Trey Henderson was saying, "Well, I was here for a voluntary day. He saw me. I was in golf clos. So we can. make one of those days go back the other. side." His mindset like every time he. comes on with us, it's very obvious that. he does not want to like I do not want. to have to do this, but I have to do.

this. Like I have to This is the way the. world works now. him following up and. talking to local media. I like I think. that was kind of unexpected on our end, but it's like Trey is uh I think Duke. knows. I think the the Brown family. knows. Katie, I think that like is Trey. going to Will Trey hold out? Trey will. skip games. We'll see. I hate testing a. guy's loyalty like that. and you know. very quietly this offseason like Sam. Hubard's like the heart and soul of that. building and you know and then you had. Pratt yesterday like these are these are.

guys that that were instrumental. in beating the Kansas City Chiefs that. year in the AFC Championship game. instrumental in getting them back to the. AFC Championship game the next year. You. don't just snap your fingers and say. okay we found those guys. At the very. least, the thread to those defenses that. coach Lou Anarumo had to this Al Golden. defense could be the sack champion and. Trey Hendrickson. You'd like to see them. figure out a way. And the fact he wears. his heart on his sleeve enders the fans,

but it might not to the Blackburn ladies. and it might not to Duke Tobin. Yeah, we. shall see. Uh Trey Henderson is a hell. of a player. Going to have a lot of. teams interested, including uh Louisan. Rumo's new team. Obviously, I'm certain. there'd be some interest in that. Now, let's talk about the Indianapolis Colts, cuz there is a situation brewing with a. number four overall pick and a. quarterback that is in an open. competition with Daniel Jones. Go ahead, Debbie. Yep. Quarterback competition. here with Anthony Richardson and Daniel. Jones. Some unexpected news, at least. for my uh for me. Uh Anthony Richardson.

still dealing with this shoulder injury. and then Kurt Cousins showing up in. Atlanta uh to the mandatory stuff. Uh. any chance if Anthony Richardson can't. go this year that Kirk Cousins makes his. way to Indianapolis? Oh, that's a you. know, I like that you would even suggest. that you I respect it. I don't have any. word of that. From right now, from what. I'm hearing, it sounds like Cousins with. his no trade clause after Rogers's seat. is fulfilled is going to be an Atlanta. Falcon and he's going to be the backup. to Michael Penn and he's going to. collect every last cent of that. contract. That's such a Kurt Cousins.

move. What do you know about Anthony. Richardson situation? Because Albert. Brier was on the Rich Eisen show. yesterday and he basically said that. Anthony is going burning stage getting. bad vibes especially because we're. talking about this. need good vibes for this particular. storyline because this is seemingly. becoming a repeat episode here. Uh he's. going to see Dr. Neil Elatro is what. Albert Brier reported on Rich Eisen show. to get a second opinion. Now obviously. we know Dr. Neil Elatro for creating the. Achilles factory where Aaron Rogers was.

He's also shoulder dude. Neil Neil great. hair, great suits, really good vibe, big. brain, a lot of success rate. He did the. surgery on Anthony Richardson's shoulder. that has been reagravated. Do you know. anything about this? And uh what do you. think expectation levels are heading. into training camp for AR? It's a. setback. And look, Elatro is the top of. the game. I don't need to do a. commercial for Neil Elatro, but you're. talking about Matthew Stafford swears by. him. You're talking Andrew Witworth.

swears by him. And of course Tom Brady. also swears by him. So you're talking. about this this particular is not just. an Achilles guy. He's created the. factory for Rogers and Dobbins and. that's fine, but he's also the shoulder. guy and the throwing guy. So he's going. to the right person. He's doing it. But. I'm telling you, there's something about. bringing in a Daniel Jones who was a. former sixth overall pick and is now got. a giant chip on his shoulder. And. there's something about vibes and year. three of Shane Stiken. And what do we do.

when Chris Ballard is now on to another. quarterback where sometimes the momentum. in the locker room can shift even if you. didn't do anything wrong, you're just. not there. This could be Daniel Jones. grabbing this team by the collar and. saying, "Hey, look, I'm going to be the. one that leads us." And if he's not here. and he's not on the field, give me that. opportunity in July and give me that. opportunity in August. Anthony. Richardson, look, Ballard and Stiken, their name's on this fourth overall. pick. Their name is on that. That is no. doubt. But Daniel Jones could also be.

the hot guy and also the guy that has. something to prove and just takes this. team by storm in July. It's a true. quarterback competition. And this is not. good news for Anthony Richardson, no. matter how you look at it. Anthony. Richardson missing reps obviously not. great. He needs reps. That's what he's. needed his entire career cuz he didn't. play that much in high school and. college. His upside obviously immense. Injuries have kept him off the field. Other things have taken him off the. field as well, including being tired. I. mean, there is a lot to learn for. Anthony Richardson at the quarterback. position, legitimately on the field and.

off the field. We knew that though. whenever he got drafted. I have been. frustrated in the past by the way some. things have gone because I'm at every. single game. So, I watch. I see what the. sideline is. I see what's happening in. between the huddles. I see what's. happening in between the plays. I know. who's talking to who. I know how things. go because we're literally on the field. So, I have a little bit of a different. perspective. I also care deeply about. the Indianapolis Colts. I think that was. pretty evident over the last few weeks. how much a lot of people care about the. Indianapolis Colts and that Ursay family. as a whole. So, whenever we're seeing it.

kind of get mismanaged or mistreated or. seemingly getting taken from or being uh. let down, it's like there's a lot of. people that were bummed out about the. way some of the operations had gone from. the quarterback position with Anthony. Richardson. But then you automatically. get reset and saying like he was so. young. He was so this was a part of the. process. This was a part of the process. And I had changed my mind that I was. going to be openly supportive of Anthony. Richardson because that would be the. best thing for Anthony Richardson. And. the best thing for Anthony Richardson. would be the best thing for the. Indianapolis Colts because of his. upside. But if he reinjured the same.

shoulder that he got surgery on, you. have to wonder then did the surgery not. take? Is there some setback in rehab? Is. there a reason it didn't work? Like. there's so many questions now because. all these reps matter to the development. of Anthony Richardson, which is the only. thing that we can kind of hang our hat. on is that Anthony Richardson is going. to develop. So then you immediately turn. like, well, is Daniel Jones going to be. the guy? I got a chance to see him. He's. huge. Yeah, it might be. He is gigantic. He's also young, you know. I think you.

were only paying him 10 million bucks. this year or whatever the case is. He. still is like 28, I think, or something. like that. You can play another He could. play another 10 years if he Yeah. And. and I'll say something about this. You. look at what Kevin Oonnell and those. guys did last year with Sam Darnold. Do. you know who joined that team mid-season. and put a really good bunch of practices. on paper? so good that the Vikings were. pursuing Daniel Jones to resign as a. backup quarterback knowing that there. was a chance they would not be able to. resign him because there would be a. demand. There was a market for Daniel.

Jones. The Vikings, the Colts, and I. know a couple other teams were all very. interested in Daniel Jones. So, this. isn't some guy on his last stop. I think. the Giant situation went as it went. got. paid, didn't live up to the contract, got hurt, and then I think last year. taking that year, that half year of the. humble pie of what happened in New York, and then signing in Minnesota and being. in that room for a little bit, learning. from Okonnell, and then being courted as. a free agent. Like, this is a new lease. on life for Daniel Jones. And I I think. there's a lot of maturity that goes into.

that. I'm not sure if Anthony Richardson. has been through all of that yet as an. NFL player. Yeah. And there's a chance. Anthony Richardson it. And once again, I'm hoping it is just uh soreness that. they're overcautious about and he's back. by training camp and we can have an. actual quarterback competition cuz once. again, Anthony Richardson's upside is I. mean, you're talking fadeaway 72 yards. throw. I I mean, that's first game of. the season. I mean, and then him. running, his speed, everything that he. has now. Daniel Jones, too. Yeah. Daniel.

Jones runs hard. Daniel Jones is fast. Daniel J Jones Jones over on rush yards. every single game is basically a lock. because even the odds makers look at. Daniel Jones and they go 2% ain't going. to be able to run over 17 yards and then. he gets into open field and if a line. doesn't trip him which sometimes yard. lines have have got him before he's wide. ass I mean he is a threat on the ground. and let alone he is big boom boom boom. in Shane that's a tough run yes that's a. tough run he's huge and in Shane.

Stiken's offense. like your quarterback being able to run. is a massive that's almost a bigger deal. than the throws. And if Daniel Jones. obviously gotten better, maybe our. offense will be able to go. And if. Anthony Richardson is out, I will be. eager to see what they do at quarterback. position and if they bring or try to. bring anybody in. Okay, let's talk about. some moves that were made over the last. 24 hours or so. The Green Bay Packers. now all of a sudden thin, very thin at a. position. Go ahead, Ty. Yeah, Shrikes, what ultimately happened with the Jer. Alexander situation? Obviously, we've. talked to you a little bit. you had. dinner with Matt Laflur the night before.

we saw you in Green Bay and it sounded. like after this whole thing started and. he was going to be gone then it it was. like no he's coming back he's going to. be a Packer obviously uh he got released. yesterday they cleared up quite a bit of. cap space but what are you hearing about. this situation and where are some. potential landing spots for Jaier. Alexander because I've already heard. Minnesota and boy would that [ __ ]. suck. first let me raise my hand there it. wasn't erroneous reporting However, I. was wrong. I thought they would figure.

it out based on my conversations, not. only with the floor, with people on both. sides. And knowing that it was just a. money issue. Let's figure out the money. issue. At the end of the day, Jier. Alexander didn't want to take a pay cut. And the Packers thought it was fair. after two years of him only playing so. many games that we talk about a contract. restructure. And to his credit, Jier. Alexander said, "$17 million is not top. of the market. When I'm on the field, I. am worth that. and I am not taking a pay. cut based on injury that I have. unfortunately uh been able to to to deal. with the last couple years and play.

through in a lot of ways. So, he's gonna. bet on himself and the Packers. They. said, "Well, we're not betting on that. We don't think you are available for. us." And they have three young corners. who they really like. That said, they're. in mini camp right now and I'm seeing Bo. Melton, a receiver out of, you know, Ruckers being played at quarterback. because they're so thin right now. There. you go. You have it because Michael. Robinson and Taylor King are out. You. don't want to see that either. That. said, um I wasn't wrong when I said. things were trending the right way. What. I was wrong was that I was assuming that.

they would figure things out. To Jier. Alexander's credit, you don't want to. take a pay cut. I think I'm I'm worth. that. And let's see if he can make more. elsewhere because the Packers are going. to eat a huge amount of his salary cap. regardless with dead space. I do wonder. if it was the hold up on the sea. It. makes sense. To be captain, the game was. in Charlotte. Shouldn't you know better, Lafur? Yeah, it's his home. I I just. don't think Lafur knew my homes. I mean, you you can't be having Bo me. Not just. this. What are you talking about? This. the Green Bay Packers. Let's get the guy. we we drafted in the sixth round to play. receiver and just toss him out there.

And hey, maybe he'll be our our starting. quarterback next year. What are we. doing? What are you talking about? Travis Hunters. That's all the rage. right now. Yeah, he's a generational. talent. He's not a He's not a six round. receiver out of Ruckers for Christ's. sake. You kidding me? Go get Jaylen. Ramsay. Stop [ __ ] around with this. [ __ ] Bo Melton is going to play. cornerback for the Green Bay Packers. next year. I don't think so. I thought. this is one rep. He's had a couple I. mean, look at the way Well, never mind.

I thought Todd was all good after the. Matthew Golden draft pick. I thought we. put this to bed. Mad Mel was Mad Mel was. gone. We found happy Mel. We found happy. T. But here's we're we're we're. reverting back to our old selves here. It's June, dude. Yeah, it is. We got a. lot of time to find corners. Yeah, you're right. Cuz there's a bunch of. good ones. Stefan's out there. Gilmore's. out there. Gilmore. Xavier Ramsey makes. sense. Jier Alexander's out there. He.

is. You could Melon's out there. We. already got Bo Melton. No, he might be. available though. He is six round pick. There's no promise. There's no promise. He might be out there. And you know the. Colts Lou Anaruma might need to look at. some Bo Melton tape. And also other. teams might need to start looking at the. fifth six wide receiver and be like, "How's your drop?" It works out. How's. your Hey, let's get you a um Rob. Demovski has uh posted a great rep of Bo. Melton. It was a good break. Okay.

Yes, he just cut off. Yeah. I mean, Richard Sherman started as a wide out. tall, lanky. Bo put those paws on. He's. from Ruckers, too. You know, Ruckers. Tough, physical, hard-nosed. All right, let's talk about some players that are. at uh camp that I think are a little bit. of a surprise. Go ahead, Tone. Yeah, uh. my ears perked up when you mentioned. James Cook earlier and you talked about. his agent being in the Shamar Stewart. conversation. It was a little surprising. that he was uh reporting today. Maybe. it's because he has not made as much.

money yet as all the other players who. are not reporting. Um, was this. surprising to you and is this do you. think this will be like a potential. holdin situation or do you think do you. think something eventually gets done uh. with James Cook before the final year of. his contract? I'll tell you, I'm. pleasantly surprised. I I feel like. James Cook and his representatives have. been quite vocal about their desire for. a new deal. And judging by the way. things were going, I didn't expect him. to show his face, but he's there and I. respect it. I respect it. Whether he's. doing, you know, 20 drills or not, the.

fact that he's there, I think has a lot. to do with that. He wants to be a. Buffalo Bill, but we've talked about. this. The numbers, they did not make. sense to Brandon Bean when we were. talking about it at the combine. They. did not make sense to Brandon Bean. We're talking about after they reuped. all those other guys to new extensions. They're not going to give him Derk Henry. or Saquon Barkley money. They're just. not I don't see that happening. It's. just not what they're budgeting for. That said, I think they would love to. have James Cook, who is maybe their best. offensive player outside of Josh Allen, on the field. So, let's see if they can. figure it out. But a good sign, even if.

it's just an olive branch, you know. that, hey, I'm going to be there and. present as now one of the veteran. leaders of this offense. Um, but he is. grossly underpaid now, but for what. numbers that we were hearing tossed. around, those didn't really, you know, add up with reality for what they were. looking to spend on running back. A new. OC up there, Mr. Brady, uh, loves James. Cook. Yes, absolutely loves James Cook. I think James Cook loves where NFL. football is headed as well. Obviously, he saw the Saquon Barkley led. Philadelphia Eagles go win the Super.

Bowl, then Saquon get broken off. I. think James Cook loves everything about. that. If James puts up another great. year, and I know this sucks, especially. at the running back position with how. many hits you have to take and how. dangerous it is. You know, if he doesn't. get a deal done now, he puts up another. massive year, there's going to be big. market for James Cook. I I mean, obviously, I'm speaking something that. is very obvious. But that is probably. what I assume Bean is saying to James. Cook. I assume James Cook's agent has. also said like, "Hey, if unless we. really hold out, which we don't want to. do, there is big money around the corner.

for a James Cook in this current NFL.". It's just like hopefully he gets that. money sooner than later cuz I love. watching him play for you. Oh, I love. him on that team, too. I I think he fits. that team and he was so good in that AFC. champion or the AFC championship game. He had that run on fourth. It's one of. the best runs you'll ever see where he. extends over the goal line and it's like. he belongs in this is the one I I think. it's the most under maybe this and. Julio's catching the Super Bowl are like. the most underrated plays in NFL history. of just athleticism. Just sheer amazing. balance from him and no no other player.

can do that right now. That is James. Cook. He's that good. So let's get this. done. Let's keep him in the Bills. uniform. But at the number that they. were asking for, I don't think it was. even close. Yeah. Well, what was the. number they were asking for? I don't. know. But from what I remember hearing. from people in Buffalo at the combine, it was like out of hand how they were. even talking about it. So hopefully we. can figure it out and make a number. that's more reasonable and in line with. what the running back position makes. That said, if the Eagles are paying. Saquon and and the Ravens are paying. Henry and they're that age, why not pay.

James? And if that's how you're winning. games, I mean, that's a whole another. conversation. Another conversation about paying people. and I don't want to go back to it. Sheriff Cely's got no shot with that. college sports commission. No chance. We. thought about that. Have you thought. about that anymore, AJ? Yeah. No chance. I mean, yeah, he's going to get sued. from 5,000 different players. How does. he How do you say no to a deal? Like, how do you say that isn't in a proper. marketing? If someone offers it if. someone offers you this amount of money. for this for this these terms, like then.

how can you say, "Hey, no, that's not in. line with what he is worth." Believe me, our deals that have not been properly. represented publicly have been said to. be way overpriced. Little do people know. the number is val. you would think even more so I think for. some of the deals that I've negotiated. but who says that that's not the proper. number especially because we've already. earned that money back for said. companies that we already know about. But if the deals that I was negotiating. with companies had to be presented to. some other [ __ ] who's never done a.

deal or that's the only amount of money. that they were able to negotiate or they. weren't able to think of ideas to regain. that amount of money for the company. that you're negotiating with. How is. that even anywhere near an acceptable. process? I I don't know. Anti-American. It is. Do schools control it? Could they. do it that way? The schools control the. salary cap, which is going to be like. 14.5 million. These are all the NIL. deals that have to get approve approved. by a committee that makes it in the fair. market range. It's like who says what.

the range is? Miles Garrett got $40. million. Softball girl. Yeah. Niger. Kennedy. Niger Kennedy guy. She got. million bucks. So what's the going rate? 50,000 100,000 I don't know what it is. maybe 25,000 even less than that then is. that Cooper flag number real I thought. that was a little bit inflated what they. say I don't even know who they said 28 I. think there was shoe I think there was a. lot of maybe like fiveyear deals that. were potentially his Converse deal or. whatever his shoe deal was I think in. that number but that might have been a. three-year deal too that might have been. his company but whatever the case still. a lot of money but the softball girl uh.

Niger and she delivered she was awesome. for them yeah but what when they present. that to a a committee and they say, "Hey, they want to pay him a million or. pay her a million bucks." Everybody else. is making 150,000, 200,000 at Tyen. It's. like, who says that a million isn't. enough? But we all just agreed she was. definitely worth it. I never heard of. Texas Tech softball until this weekend. and I'm watching because of her and you. got Mahomes in the stands like cheering. like she was that dominant. It was worth. every penny. Bingo. But whenever they. would have pitched that number, which I.

think they were, other schools were. saying we're not paying that. No way. That rain that committee would have said. no way will we do that. It's like I. don't know how I and I genuinely don't. know what the answer is. I don't want to. be just the person saying like, "Hey, this ain't going to be good, but because. I don't have any answers, so I'm part of. the problem, not a part of the. solution." So, I apologize for that. But. it's like they're going to have to. figure out how that works cuz I don't. know how you say no to a company wanting. to pay a human. Yeah. Amount of money. Sheriff Cely figure it out. Yeah. It'll.

crack down. He's going to have to. Sheriff will get it done. I I I. appreciate this man saying I'll take on. the task. Yeah. Yeah. But this better. him than me. I mean, amen. And that was. happening with Sabin. Remember, people. were pushing Sabin's name out there. Sabin's about to do it. And I I was. talking to people, not Coach Sabin. himself, cuz I didn't want to put him in. a spot to give me an answer. Then I. would have to say, you know, I talked to. him. But people directly around him were. like, "We're signing Coach Sabin up for. that at 70. We're signing him up to fix. all the college." That's a That's a deep.

job. Good luck, Cely. We're good. Done. I still don't know how you turn down a. any offer. I don't know how that's going. to happen. Legally, that seems. impossible. But if we were to make a. bet, it would be on what Shrager's. brains. Wouldn't that be the case? Without a doubt. With the draft. Uh, and. also, I think he picked the Super Bowls. for a while. And then also, he seemingly. understands the cultures in different. buildings and where they're at. Go. ahead, con man. Yeah, Shriggs. Last year. in the preseason, you said, "Hey, don't. be surprised if the Washington.

Commanders go on a hell of a run." And. turns out they end up going to the NFC. Championship. Do you have a read on your. favorite kind of dark horse team out of. nowhere this year? Loved what you said. on Get Up this morning about the. Chargers. They're still in the Chiefs. division, so who cares? But who do you. think is one of those teams that kind of. rises from the ashes this year and. revitalizes their entire uh team? Yeah, look, I said last year everywhere before. the season that they would have a. Houston Texans like turnaround. I didn't. think they would go to the NFC.

Championship game. And the Commanders, what they did was they just said, "Let's. rip it all down and build it all up.". Now, that started with a head coach, an. offensive coordinator, a new GM, and. then they got a new quarterback. The. closest thing that you're going to find. to that right now is the Chicago Bears. in that they have all new coaching. staff, all these new players, a new. offensive line, and they have a. quarterback and Caleb Williams, who it. seems is all there, but I have to see. and learn a little bit more and see how. this Ben Johnson Caleb thing goes before.

I jump in. On paper, they're the team. that did it. On paper, they're the team. that gave their quarterback everything. On paper, they're the team that rebuilt. the whole franchise in a matter of an. offseason. And that's what I always look. for. That's what Demo did with CJ Strad. and they got Will Anderson right after. So, it's all there, but like I'm not. sold on Caleb yet. I got to see training. camp because Ben Johnson's offense and. I've known Ben for a long time. He's a. cerebral guy in that, you know, he and. golf had to put a lot of time into that. where everything was timing based.

Everything is like you count to three. here, you look there. And everything. that Caleb Williams has been up to this. point has been freestyle, off schedule, willy-nilly, freelance. Let me use my. athleticism. Can you combine the two and. get that Mahomes Andy Reid marriage. where it's like, here's the play, and I. know you've got all the athleticism, but. if we could put this together and you. can just trust me on timing, we can make. this work. Well, then yeah, the Bears. will be that team. I have to see it. first before I make that prediction. But. on paper, the Bears are your Texans from.

two years ago and your commanders from a. year ago. Baby Z celebrating background. Big fist bumps from ZTO raising the. roof. Roof roof roof. Raising the roof. Roof roof. Where are you guys going to. play football at? We shall see. We don't. know. We don't know. Jared Goff. Jared. Goff like the epitome of a robot. quarterback, you know, but he did it. perfectly. Hell yeah. Everything that he. is great at, Ben Johnson used and made. perfect. And Bennett said, I think I've. never had a quarterback with the ability. that Caleb has as well to kind of add in.

the offscript stuff. I can't wait to. watch him, too. And they invested in the. offensive line. They seemingly invested. in everything that's good, too. Shrekes. I'm sorry. I'm sorry to jump in. It's. like some of the stuff that used to. drive Kyle Shanahan nuts with Garopolo. is that it's like, "Hey, just throw to. point A, point B." And Jimmy would have. to like do something crafty in the. pocket and try to make something more of. it. And that would enrage Kyle Shanahan. Then he gets Brock Party and it's like, Brock Party, throw here. And Brock Party. throws there. He's like a robot. sometimes is what Kyle wanted. That's. going to be Ben Johnson with Caleb. Does.

Caleb can Caleb play within that. framework of don't go off script. Don't. do what you think is necessary for the. extra bigger play. Just trust me and. we'll get there. I don't know. But. extend to play when that's it is. available. That's also why he was hands. down the number one pick because of that. ability. And even Brock Party like he's. a guy that can play within the system, but he's also a guy when it breaks down. can scramble for 16 and break your back. So, um, all the things they did in the. offseason right there were straight, especially Lovelin, too. You know, going. up and getting Lovelin, pairing him up. with KT Rome's going into a big second.

year. DJ Morris coming off a career. year. So, yeah, all the pieces are there. for Chicago. Quarterback's got to be the. hardest. I mean, it's so important. Yeah. Just the And look at who they. drafted second and third overall. You. got Jaden and Drake Mus like breathing. on them. And that's the same city that. that that Trabiscy was taken before. Mahomes and Deshawn Watson. So, like. they've been down this road. Uh, I think. there's a lot of believers in Caleb. Ben. Johnson would not have taken that job. He could have gone to any of these jobs. He would not have taken that job if he. didn't want to be with Caleb Williams. I.

just personally didn't I I'm not hating. I just need to see it first. I haven't. seen it yet. Yeah. It sound like anytime. you say I'm not hating on him. You're. hating on Yeah. Sounds like there's a. little bit of that. And with Caleb, I. think he he understands that the NFL. world, you know, cuz in college he's. obviously spectacular. Comes in at. Oklahoma. I think he came in the Red. River rivalry game and took that thing. over there chanting his name. I remember. that. Uh was a moment in college. football that year. Then obviously he. goes out to USC with Lincoln Riley. becomes the spectacle showcase that he.

is. Comes undoubtedly the number one. overall pick. He even had people saying. like are you going to be the team that. passes on Caleb Williams? Like that's. how Caleb Williams was being talked. about coming out of college in the NFL. goes to Chicago. It goes how it goes. He's already on his third offensive. coordinator, I think. Yep. Uh yes. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Third offensive coordinator. And then the story Thomas Brown and now. now he's got this and and he's got. obviously that's a lot of [ __ ] to go. from like the god to like okay now you.

got to like humble yourself in the. middle of this entire thing. And Pat, they didn't they didn't even meet with. Jaden Daniels. They didn't even meet. with Drake May. This was handed to him. in a way that is very unorthodox in the. draft where it's like you're the guy. You don't need to take another proday. with anybody. You don't need to visit. anybody. You're our guy. So there's a. there's a lot there's a lot there's a. lot that goes right there's a lot going. on with this guy. It's a big city. It's. a big city. Big fan base. Big market big. market. Big franchise. Hasn't been great. for a long time. They've invested a lot.

Ben Johnson has been great. The. expectation is Ben Johnson's going to be. good. Will the quarterback be good? And. I like that. I like that version of him. That fired up. I want to see that. Yeah. Yeah. A little Yeah. A little fire. A. little He he has a lot of pizzazz. Had. pizzazz with the fire. Fire position. The cool bear claw. Yeah, I remember. those days. Oh, yeah. Those were fun. days. Yeah. I haven't seen you in a. while. That was like the pre uh Jet. season started with Aaron Rogers days. Do you remember how much fun those days.

were? Oh my god. Hard knock. Hard. knocks. I jumped all in. I dove in. Like. dove in. I was like, "Oh my gosh." He. took Solomon Thomas to a Broadway play. I'm in. That one drive he had against. the NerS in week one down the field. So. good. How um how are you as a swimmer? Shrekes pretty good swimmer or no? Pretty good. Pretty good. Yeah, I could. swim. I could do a little medley. Let's. go. Oh, really? All four. You got them. all. I could butterfly. I'll butterfly. that ass. Let me go. Let's do it.

[Laughter]. We need you to get on some juice and we. need to get you in these uh hands. We. need you to butterfly that ass and the. enhanced game. Imagine Triggs on all the. juice showing up to that thing. Oh my. god. Mountain. Is this the butterfly? Yeah. Over the. top. This is the breast. Yeah. Yep. Mhm.

You got backroke stroke. backstroke and. then freestyle forward just freestyle. and you do little elementary side stroke. too if you want slow you just got to do. this. your Navy Seal. that's it take me to Paris Island let's. go straggs I'll tell you I don't know if. you want to go down Paris Island take. your boy I don't think I would last a. second island it was it was that was. that place was incredible that place was. absolutely incredible dude I commend you. hats off to you so much for even go I. mean that had to be a life-changing.

experience I I did I did Fort Bragg um a. couple years back with Fox and it was. it's still to this day one of the. coolest experiences of my life. I I went. on a USO tour uh over to Japan. Went to. a bunch of different bases over there. Obviously here in Indiana there's a. couple different bases. I've done a lot. of stuff with the military. Uh very. thankful to get to know a lot of people. that have been in the military and uh. all that. First time ever at a boot. camp, you know, so that's my first time. kind of witnessing it.

Thank god they're still around. Mhm. Yes. Yeah. Thank I thought that I said. this yesterday and I don't want to. reiterate it too much, but I thought I. thought that wasn't around anymore. I. thought there wasn't any of that. We're. going to be okay. We're going to be a. okay. Shs can make it. I mean, I would. love to see Grock put Shrags in those. yellow footprints right next to you. Come on, Grock. Do you Grock, make sure. you understand what the Make his. footprints extra yellow. You know, make. those things extra. Don't let him pee.

his pants. do not have a pea stain on. his pants or poop. They thought about. calling him Brian Prince, but obviously. the pants kind of keep those in. Uh AJ. has a question for you, Shreggs. Shregs, with Aaron Rogers signing in Pittsburgh. What are your expectations for this. Steelers team this year? Obviously, it. feels like it's a little I guess. Steelers fans might be I don't know, like not getting too far, not look, you. know, putting the cart before the horse, whatever you want to call it. They seem. to, you know, they kind of rain it in. But what do you expect out of this team? Yeah, I I have two big thoughts on this.

that that I that I'd love to share with. you guys. The first thing is this. misnomer that like Rogers wouldn't fit. in in Pittsburgh because he's this like. crunchy granola Northern California guy. I I've known Aaron a long time. When it. comes to football, and AJ, you know. this, there is no one more dialed in. And furthermore, who are the who are the. coaches he's really connected the most. with? Mike McCarthy, Western. Pennsylvania. Tom Clemens, Western. Pennsylvania. Alex Vanpelt, Western. Pennsylvania. Frank Signetti, like we. can go down Ben Mcadoo, all these guys.

are Western PA guys and they've hit it. off with Rogers in a real way. So, I. think he will fit that city and will fit. that culture. I also like the fact. they're not asking him to be the savior. Now, of course, you got to be the. quarterback number one of the Pittsburgh. Steelers. All eyes are on you. That's. all going to come with it. But, like, it's not the Jet situation where it's. like it's all on his shoulders and you. he's going out to, you know, dinner at. Carbone in New York City with Sauce. Gardner who's 21 years younger than him. like it's not there's Cam Hayward, there's TJ Watt, hopefully there's DK.

Metaf, there are guys there and there's. Mike Tomlin. So I I think for one year, $10 million with incentives, like this. is a nobrainer. And all the stuff that. we were moaning and groaning about in. the media the past three months, it. trust me, Arthur Smith was building an. offense for Aaron Rogers, whether he. knew he was coming or not. It's not like. they got caught with their their pants. around their ankles saying, "Oh, wait a. second. We got Oh, he's signing. Let's. go build an offense." It's like they've. had time to build this thing. It's just. an install now. And hey, don't worry. about all the other nonsense. We got.

football and you've got one year. Let's. make the most of it. I like it. Yeah, we. like it as well. And I think most. Pittsburgh Steelers fans have come. around on the fact that this is a much. better off uh option than anything else. they had at this particular point. And. there's also a chance at the end of the. season last year, Aaron Rogers's. Achilles out of the Achilles factory was. just getting healthy for the first time. and he was moving, throwing. The Jets. offense looked like how everybody had. fantasized that that Jets offense would. look two years prior to that for like.

four games. Way too little, way too late. for that Jets run. But if you carry that. into the Pittsburgh Steelers with some. of the guys that are still available, you know, I mean, they are loaded at. every single spot on the defense. So. hopefully the defense carries them while. the offense and Aaron, you know, kind of. learn each other and they they they can. run the football, which we know already. wants to do. They added some running. backs this off season as well as DK. Mechaf. So I Yeah, I think things are. high right now in Steelers uh town. Look. at look at those first four weeks. though. Like By the way, Strags, the.

fact the fact that you didn't tell. Rowski to [ __ ] off the other day when he. when he said oh he said maybe the Browns. in the first six weeks. Um, no. It's a. as far as a schedule goes, it sets up. really nicely early for them to get. Well, I love I love Dan and Dan Dan is a. guy that I would like consider you want. to talk about, you know, someone you. love doing TV with. Dan's great on TV. and he's fun to barter with banner with. He was saying like there's no way in. hell they could beat, he wouldn't say. hell, he's a religious man. There's no.

way in houble hockey sticks that you. could see that the Steelers could beat. the Ravens in the And I'm like, I just. watched the Commanders playing in an NFC. Championship game. Like, I just saw it. with my own two eyes. It could happen. It's not crazy. The NFL I saw the. Jaguars play in an AFC Championship game. in Foxboro and come one Stefon Gilmore. play away from going to the Super Bowl. Like, I've seen it. It's crazy. That's. the NFL. Yeah, agreed. And the. Pittsburgh Steelers win games and the. Pittsburgh Steelers know the Baltimore. Ravens pretty good. Those games are. always going to be one-score games. I.

mean, there's a uh some stat about stats. or about some spreads over four and a. half or five and a half in between the. Steelers and the Ravens game. Like the. three and I think it was three and a. half. Yeah, three and a half. I guess. anything over three and a half, you take. the points in the Ravens Steelers. That's how those games go. So, yes, on. playoffs, they got the crap kicked out. of them. They ran for 700 yards, but we. got that figured out. There's only been. one uh losing quarterback under Mike. Tomlin. Who is that? Trakes Mitchell. Trabiscy. What's up, man? Can't believe. you couldn't think of that today. He He. said it was duck. He It was Zach Hodge.

just took him to the playoffs. He did. Quack quack quack quack quack quack. quack quack quack quack quack quack. quack quack quack quack quack. Ducks in it. That's what they were. saying. Bingo. When Duck Hodgers was the. quarterback and now he's living his best. life. Yeah. The wonderful life. I mean, his wife is a superstar in country music. and Duck Hodes is doing his thing. Whoa,

whoa, whoa. Are they married? Is that not right? Or. at least I thought Yeah, engaged. I. didn't think they were married unless. you're now strengthens. I like my serious highway 56. I like. listening to that, but I don't know. anything about the gossip. I got nothing. else. Duck's out there calling duck. still. I do know that. Every once in a. while, he'll remind everybody. Remember. the name duck is because I'm a world. champion duck caller. Yeah. champion. World champion. Best duckler in the. world. Amazing. Like two times, dude.

Those ducks have no chance. They think. he is an actual [ __ ] duck down there. They're flying around and he's down. there just working. You saw that? These ducks up there like, "Holy [ __ ] Ted. That's Ted." They go. down there. They think it's not. It's. Duck with a shotgun. pow pow. Yeah. Wow. Yeah. Follow him. What's familiar? It's Duck football. Duck football. Then he put him in a. football game for the Pittsburgh. Steelers and he just finds a way to win. Yeah, I remember that. Monday night. against the Chargers. I remember it well. in LA. In LA or in San Diego and Duck.

Char Duck Hodgees lit him up. Legend. That's Duck Hodgees football. Yeah. So I. don't know if he's doing real estate or. insurance, but whatever he's doing, if. he's selling it, we're buying it. Quack. quack, buddy. You done good. As have. you, Shreger, you Emmy award-winning. handsome lad who's a good swimmer. We'll. swim our way into the digital only. version of this particular program. We'll be back tomorrow. Be your friend. Tell a friend something nice. It might. change their life as Shreg's phone. falls.

Has that What is that? That's that weird. AI thing. I got like the update on it. where like it follows you. There you go. It's doing it again. I don't know. I got. to turn it off. That's PTZ. That's Foxy. in the back on my side. Okay. All right. Yours is like tracks you, right? That's. an iPad. I know. Yeah. It's something. I. don't know. The government's following. me. I have no idea what's going on. You. have no idea. It's been there all day, Karen. Yeah, you. Oh, the mentalist got me today. And now. my iPad is following me from all angles. We have that. We had We have that ready.

The I saw the beginning of your show. I. don't know. It was crazy, man. I I'm all. I was with the people online like enough. with the O's a little bit and then I got. and it happened to me and I just I'm I'm. changed forever. It was incredible. That's right. We were We're the exact. same way. We saw him on TV. He was. getting a lot of hype. Shfter's like, "Hey, I'm kind of his manager or. whatever." Like, "Oh, great. Now this. guy's getting forcefed." I didn't know. that. In every single team, I think he's. a friend/manager or something along. those lines. Okay. So, then he's at. every single team. He's putting out. clips with everybody. We're like, "We. get it, dude. We get it." Then you.

experience it for the first time. Was. that your first time live around him? Yes. First time ever meeting him. He's a. He was on Rogan this week. I happened to. listen to him for three hours. I'm like, I've got my fill in my cup and then he. did this to me in person and I'm like, I. I I'm absolutely blown away. This man is. very, very impressive. Did he um did he. [ __ ] with you a little bit off camera, too? Cuz that's when he really gets you. to understand that this is the real. deal. Like, we told the story earlier. about what he did to Darius, what he did. to me. I think there was some stuff off. air with AJ that happened as well. Just.

kind of off the cuff, hey, how you. doing? Let me let you know that I. [ __ ] know everything you're thinking. right now. Really quickly, and that was. the weird part. Like, I like I'm good. I. don't need to do any like pre pre-show. stuff with O's. And then they were like, "Go. chat with O's." I'm like, "All right.". So I'm chatting with him and he's just. chatting, but we're not talking about. any of the stuff he brought on to the. show. And then we're doing small talk. about me. And I'm like, "All right.". Then we get out there and he's like, "Think of an NBA superstar." Which is a. very vague term, could be anything. And. I'm like, "All right." And for whatever.

reason, I'm like, "I'm going to go. Draymond Green." Which might not even be. considered. I mean, in today's climate, there's 10 other players and we can talk. about who, but like that might not be. one of the guys. And he's like, "Write. down the name of any NBA superstar." And. I wrote down Draymond Green and he's. like, "You're thinking of Draymond. Green." I'm like, "What the?" It was. crazy. It makes no sense. And the off. that little off combo that he's having. with you. Uh I think he's trying to. figure out if he can crack into you and. then as soon as as soon as he finds out. he's got no time for you. All right, let's get him the [ __ ] out of here. Let. me just make sure this isn't the same. thing as me. Hey, talk to me. Talk to.

me. Talk to me. What's your favorite? Yeah, I got it. Okay, thank you. You can. [ __ ] leave now. You can go ahead and. get out. That's how it was. He didn't. want like He weren't looking to get. coffee. No, that was that was quick. Yeah, he just wanted to find out if he. can crack your skull or not. That's all. he did. He had to plant Draymond Grant. because he spelled out get up so he had. to know. Yeah, that that was the crazy. Isn't that how it all kind of comes. together, too? It's wild [ __ ] guy. I. mean, if you were to ask I mean any of. you guys to name an NBA superstar, any. of you thinking of Draymond Green off. the top of your head? No. I was thinking.

Bob Koozie. Bob. NBA goat. Maybe. Could you imagine if. you if you drop a koozie reference? There's been a couple times where he's. asked me a question and I hadn't been. paying attention close enough because I. was still trying to figure out what the. [ __ ] he just did. So then he's he asked. me a question. I'm like, "Oh, I was not. paying attention. Were there any. precursors on what I'm supposed to. think?" Cuz like I need that's an piece. of information you do need. Like what am. I supposed to think of here? Cuz what if. I'm thinking of something that isn't. even in a category? Then I clearly am. ruining the entire gimmick. That's.

happened to me three times now with him. cuz I'm thinking about the previous. thing that he did. Then he asked me, I'm. like, "Oh, [ __ ] I thought we were. done." No, you need more from me. What. What was Bell? I mean I I remember. watching it in real time, but like off. camera, what was Bellich's reaction to. that guy? I think he said man a couple. times. I don't know. He was he was. calling Sean Payton. He wasn't call. during the whole thing. Hey, he just. predicted first eight. Oh, wow. Yeah. Oh, cool. Sean Pton. Oh, I got Shawn. Payton on the phone. It was the thing. All right, Shanks. What should we be. paying attention to that we're not.

paying attention to right now? You think. the whole world? Um, I'm curious to see. how I'm curious to see how this Jets. thing goes this offseason. They tore it. all down and everyone's flying high. But. there there's some questions here in New. York as to whether or not this young. coaching staff and the young GM and the. young quarterback, it's all going to. come together. There is no expectations. with the Jets. So, they might be a. little sleeper team as well. Oh, you. like them as a dark horse. Yeah. All. right. Sleeper as in like no one's. talking about them whatsoever and the. spotlight's off and let's see how these. young guys play. But the fact that Sauce.

and Garrett Wilson showed up today with. their contract situations up in the air, I like that also. Yeah, me too. I like. Aaron Glenn. Yeah, no one's talking. about the New York City teams. No one does that. It's never never a. conversation. Speaking of, how are you. enjoying the finals? You watching the. finals? They said lowest game two since. 200 years. It's his fault. He's not. watch. I have been watching I I I'm. telling you, I thought game one was one. of the greatest finals games. That was. the coolest thing. And I said to. everyone I was with and I was with a. group of people. I'm like I will never.

count this team out when they're down. nine with seven minutes left. And they. did it again. It's they're a special. team, but this this Thunder team when. they get it going, it's like a. locomotive. So you just got to stop them. from getting it going. I've really. enjoyed this matchup. I think it's good. Tyrese had a ball game right there. 3. seconds left on the clock. How you. doing? Keep it moving. John Hallebertton. in the building. No selling the entire. thing. I think there's a chance if he. was courtside we would have seen a. little bit of something something out of. Pops. Hopefully he's back for game. three. Nonetheless, Tyrese Hallebertton.

has made a lot of big shots. Game two. didn't make anything until fourth. quarter whenever he really turned it up. But even then, you talk about never. counting us out. We were down like 15. with like 2 minutes left, 3 minutes. left. I was like, "Wait a minute. Can we. make a run in this thing?" And then we. subbed everybody out and it was like, you know, time of day. Yep. Time of. death. Three minutes left. New York. Knicks fans now are freaking out over. who the next coach is going to be and. whether it's Kevin Durant and that's the. life of a Knicks fan every offseason. it's what's next we turn the page but to. me let's let's enjoy Isaiah Joe taking.

on Obie Toppin for four more days okay. um who is going to be the coach over. there Jason Kidd I heard right that's. what they're saying that's what Wendy. was saying and I don't know is is is. that red or red hourback I don't know I. mean everyone's fre oh Jason kid is. Sure. Thanks. It's fine. That's the. thing. I I'm with you on that. I don't. know. Is Jason Kid suddenly going to be. the one that gets us over the top? Yeah. He gets Cooper flag and Anthony Davis. and Kyrie and running away for the.

Maverick's going to let him out. Go to. New York. Yeah. Why would he leave? And. then let's talk about uh Malone. Wouldn't Malone be the guy? Yeah. You. think so? Malone might be the guy. because his dad Brendan Malone was a. longtime assistant in New York and he's. got all these awards. But like if you. think Tibs runs guys hard and is tough. on playing young players and getting. that's Mike Malone's whole rap. I don't. know if we need to go down that road. again. Who did Stephen A. Smith say? Mark Jackson. He did bring in Mark. Jackson. Mhm. He still New York City. guy. I don't know if that's happening. I. like the guy I like the guy in Houston.

He may do but it sounds like they're not. going to ever let him out for anything. I to me that's why I would be Why would. he again? Houston young loaded. Yeah. They got money. Don't you want to be in. New York with all the bright lights in. the New York City? Like that's the whole. thing. Yeah. Take him to the conference. final. Yeah. Bingo. Yeah. That's what. you want to do. You want to get fired. Yeah. Just let Rick Brunson run the. show. He already is. Just make it. official. And they're talking about. getting Kevin Durant. They don't have. any picks. They're they got to trade. more than if they want him. They have to.

trade Cat, which I'm not sure. Although. I'll say this, Durant, I like Durant. I've been, you know, Durant's a killer. on offense. And if any snap of a finger, he could score 21 points in the fourth. Like I wouldn't be so opposed to it. I. know a lot of my Knicks fans are like. running for the hills from Kevin Durant. cuz 37 years old and isn't exactly a. defensive stalward anymore. But to me, you're never out of a game with Kevin. Durant, especially if he's got a chip on. his shoulder. I would take Durant. Just. get another lanky wing player. What are. you talking about? Another You're. calling Kevin Durant just another You. got Macau Bridges? He's a little. different. They got Bridges. They got.

OG. They I mean, they just went to the. conference finals and they're like, "Hey, we got to blow up this team. If we. don't blow this team up, we'll never get. back here." It's like every year is we. talked about this with the Pacers. I'm. not happy for Timothy Shalomé, Ben. Stiller, Spike Lee, Pete Trags, Miles. Teller, John Melanchamp, all the Knicks. fans. About like how exciting of a run. you guys had and then you know Exactly. We're thinking we're doing it again next. year. It's hard to just rebuild, I. think, change. It's It's easier to do it.

again next year when you do what the. Pacers did and you just keep everybody. continuity and you trust it. Yeah. Let's. work together and do that. Here's the. fear. It's like we've seen it like Steve. Kerr was an upgrade from Mark Jackson. and was what they needed. Uh Phil. Jackson was an upgrade from Doug Collins. in that situation was what they needed. So we've seen it happen, but like if you. don't have that guy in your back pocket, that's a pretty rash decision to make. I. I assume that those other teams had that. in play. And I was like, so I'm just. going to let go of the wheel and see and. see how it ends up before I judge. I.

trust Jaylen Brunson on the court. Mhm. If he's playing, I think you're in it. I. think that's how Nick's fans should. feel. this SGA guy. I'm watching him uh a lot. He's 6'6, AJ. Young. I know. Legit. Every angle off. the back. It's unbelievable. I have no. idea how you stop it. And then I. appreciate people. Now granted, I did. not watch enough of the Oklahoma City. Thunder this year. Sure. Okay. Hand up. on me. The narrative was this guy just gets a. foul line. So I thought we were going to.

watch James Harden at Houston. basketball. Like I thought it was just. going to be like that type of stuff. It's not. No, it's a completely He is a. BL. This dude is a beast. He's They call. him a foul artist. It's like he will. expose you. If you were close enough for. him to steal one off of you, he will. certainly do that. But he's creating his. own shot. He's shaking. He's taking it. to I mean he is. It's not like a floppy. thing. It's like uh he will certainly. play the game and get a foul on you. I. understand that. And some people think.

that's a little shady, especially. whenever you somehow have more foul. shots than our team every single time. How does that work out that way? But. it's like he's a talent. This dude's. unbelievable. Yeah. You go down a list. of great scorers, they all got to the. foul line. That's a part of it. Putting. the defenders in bad situations. When. you have elite scorers like that, there's always going to be the haters. Just like when it's like great. quarterbacks, when it's Brady or Manning. or whoever pocket quarterbacks, oh man, when they get hit, they get all the. flags. They get all this. Yeah, they're. great. And when they don't, they're. going to tear you apart. So that's what. SGA does and what he's been able to do. on the biggest stages, you know, winning.

the MVP, getting to a level he's never. been to and his team has never been to. And every time these lights are bright, he shows up like that's that's. impressive. I'm sure his line is what. what tonight to score? Probably 30. It's. always 30 at least. That's what Carile. said. 304. and a half. Yeah. That's nuts. Yeah. Rick Carile said you can put 34 on the. score sheet for SGA already before the. game even starts. Yeah. He has I think. they did it on Get Up. He has 83 games. now with 25 plus points this season. Crazy. 83. He's even money to score 35.

plus. And I watch college hoops like he wasn't. that guy at Kentucky. I don't know when. this happened. Like he was good. He was. fine, but he wasn't that guy. It'd be. cool to be 6'6. and then just have it snap that you're. supposed to just take over games. Work. ethic. Yeah. Has to. Brunson, too. Brunson I mean he was a dog at Villanova. obviously but you just getting you put. in the work and you become like a great. you only do that by putting that work in. and he's obviously done that and his. mentor was uh Chris Paul when Chris Paul.

came over to OKC was supposed to they. were supposed I think their overunder. for wins was like 20 and they ended up. winning 45 games going to the playoffs. being the four seed when Chris Paul was. at the one and he's kind of the guy that. took SGA under his wins. Hey, Chris. Paul. Good on our program. Great on your. program. Live in the rain from Carolina. I loved it. He talks [ __ ] too. That's. about you. Where's he going to play? Shrekes next year. Yeah. What are you. hearing? Sounded like on your show that. he wants to be a Clipper. It sounded. like it. I That's how he wants to end. it, but I don't know how that all works. out. I I can't That's how Why? What are.

you What are you talking about? It's. Chris Paul. They got James Hart and. stuff. Chris Paul needs to come to. Boston. You want him to be as far away. from his family as possible. He's never. He needs to bring his family there, too. Oh, I don't know. What's the best school. in the country? Harvard. You want to be. close to that? I want you over Harvard. Oh, you big Harvard. Go to Harvard for. kindergarten. I'm more Look, look, you're a big Harvard guy. I said Harvard. cuz it's more mainstream. I'm an MIT. guy. Let's go. in the technology guy. So, I I don't. know what you guys are talking about, but also Cambridge. I don't know. One of.

the most upand cominging areas, not up. and coming, one of the most expensive. areas in the world to live in. That's. why that's why if uh it not as upy as. you'd think, but that's why if Chris. Paul were to come over, I think it. should be a match made in heaven. Oh, that's awesome. We caught you. All. right. Hey, Shanks. I appreciate that. lot of you, man. Guys, congrats on all. the the cool stuff with the concafa. stuff, too. I was following. you so close. That was a perfect time. Come on. I. watched I was supportive. You got to.

give me something. Come on. Carrie Carrie North Carolina. My my my. passport hasn't been there, but I will. be if you ever invite me. I will get in. goal. I'll put some goalie for you. Okay. Yeah. The name. Count it. Count. it. Conva has Stoner stood on his head. He was the best one goal of the whole. tournament was the last game. Stoner was. unbelievable. I guess Stoner also plays. Stoner's our goalie from last year. He. carried out. Yeah. Yeah. He stopped him. with his face this year actually. Just. 81 with his face. I guess he plays.

striker too on some club teams. What the. hell? Why wasn't Stoner in then? Yeah. So, I guess I guess his foot his feet. are are good as well. And then Phil E. was obviously uh uh joined our team. Former MASL goalie of the year. Uh sure. Yeah. Do they allow uh five hole goals. in MASL uh did you see how they Hey, did. you see how the tournament ended last. night? Strikes B. No, I didn't. I did. not see this. This the highlight. This. is for a million bucks right here. Bang. Banging around a guy. Oh, what a shot. Yeah, I like the smoke that they added.

That's cool. in the station. If old. buddy used his hand to stop that, would. it continue the game or does a goal. count? How's it question? Is that a. penalty kick in the Yeah, in the box or. he would have been good. Did he have a. penny on? Let me see. No, the guy. running on the field has a penny. Yeah, the guy who was designated the goalie. had a penny on right there. He was. holding it in blue. He actually was the. one that turned the ball over before. this on the other side. They tried to. sub him out to sub new goalie in. So, that guy right next to him is subbing in. for the other goalie. Terrible. substitution by Puma D. This was a.

bobble. This was a botch by their bench. in sub. This was a substitution error is. how they lost a million bucks. They. could have taken a shot earlier or too. there. There might have been a time to. maybe Yeah, maybe like have one. Maybe a. good opportunity. Maybe have one here. Let's have one. But there's a couple of. those where they could have Yeah, they. could have had one. They could have. maybe really went out there and and ha. and had one. I mean, that's in this. tournament, you have to have one. Yeah, especially if the ball comes over and. it's a perfect situation to to have one. you know, you have that ball, you know, tied around, you know, your left boot.

Maybe a good opportunity to have one, especially 77 for Pumas. Big boots. Fat. Tony. Yeah, Fat Tony. Um, that was not. his name. That is his name. That's what. he's called. He's a legend of he. was awesome. Waffle body. I can't. believe he didn't let it rip, dude. He. could have had one. I cannot believe he. did not win the golden boot of the. tournament. I actually I need to talk. with someone from TST. And also Puma. State Alabama, their their skipper, their gaffer, coach of the tournament.

and he is the biggest [ __ ] gaffer of. the whole tournament. They lose. So. let's go. It was a substitution there. Gumpy. We all watch while we're watching. it live. I see scram like other goalie. running off field. Illegal substitution. as well. Just just so we know. The other. goalie was not fully off the field in. the substitution air as the new goalie. was being subbed on. So I mean it was uh. it's chaos. The longer you play in this. tournament, you'll realize that the ref. in the middle actually does nothing at. all as well. I learned that when I asked, "What does.

that guy do?" when Nani threw a punch at. Breet. They said, "Ah, he's just there. to monitor subs, not actually help or, you know, talking about on the. sideline." Yeah, in the middle there. He. just stands there. He's great. They also. rule if it's inbounds or out of bounds. on the near sideline. I think I've seen. a couple of those calls made. Gumpy. hates the refs at the TST. I love that. Uh, and I don't know if I look great for. why they throw that trophy. I don't. know. So, everyone can get a piece of. the trophy. Oh, like everybody at the. tournament. All the kids. All the team.

Yeah, the kids. I saw bunch of players. on the team. They were all picking it up. and like celebrating with their piece. Okay. Like cutting the net. I don't I. don't. What are you supposed to do with that. thing in one piece? I would have had. that thing on a flight home with me. back. We'll figure out when we win it. next year. Yeah. We're going to hang. that thing in a thunderdome right from. the middle. It's going to be like a. disco ball. Smash him with a. sledgehammer. I can't wait to see the. team next year. GLA out. Uh, let's bring. in Come on. Let's bring in Big Tony. Uh, who else? Tony Miola. Who else do we.

like? Tony Mola is already trying to do. the GM of the year. I would never look. I I'm not built for it, man. I There's. one man that we need. You see down there. at the bottom, Shregs? Who does it say? General manager of the tournament. Hell. yeah. Mike Foss. Oh, Mike Fos. How about. that? We have Cona has two. representatives. Shout out to Big. Rugles. Congratulations. Couple big time goals. Also, uh I think. he had two or three yellow cards. I. think he had three. They only documented. two. So, he could have got another one. because if you get three yellow cards, you got to sit out the next game. So, he.

definitely had three yellow cards, but. they only kept track of two. So, he got. a bonus yellow and he was certainly. trying to exercise that, right? He is a. uh he has the gift of the gap and he. said he gets people very upset. very. very he was actually walking one guy. right off the field to fight him and. then as that guy was walking off the. field boom we slide in right behind a. guy score a goal I mean it was like his. his mental game in mental gymnastics. he's chess player out there his dreads. does not like when his dreads are pulled.

they got a red card I was super happy. for him cuz he played on Nani's team. last year and they never invited him. back so when we knocked them out he was. super Yeah he was he didn't have a team. we we got lucky that that's uh Porch. who's an absolute dog. There's there's. me celebrating alongside first sergeant. Pat Harland uh who gave the boys a. motivational speech before the game. Uh. it was great to see him. Porch was. unbelievable. Yes, he's filthy. I don't. know how he didn't make the uh team as. well. Porch ran a lot around people. Zeppelin. He was This was a great.

tournament. It was a great time. We were. lucky to be there. I can't stress enough. how much better this style of soccer is. than normal soccer. It's about 10,000. times better. Always always a walk-off. Always a walk-off. Game has to end with. somebody scoring a goal. No ties. Black. boots. Yeah, that black boots came back. this year. And there's a Gorilla assist, by the way. Nice pass. Yeah. Who was. that against? Was that the first game or. the second game where you guys won seven. nothing? That was No, this is soccer. roof. Yeah. Round of 32. Didn't G assist. the Breshang goal, too? Yes. Oh, yeah.

The real good assist. It went off the. goalie. Let's Let's not put him in the. mixer, brother. Let's act like Ga fed. him on his boots. Okay. He he basically. shot a little rinky dink shot and then. Breshay being the superhero that he is. came in and cleaned it up. Hey big meat, thank you for your service to concier. The boys are buzzing. All right, we. appreciate you, Shregs. Maybe next year. you are a mascot or a goalie. Yeah. Mhm. I'm in. What's the name of the team? Uh concave.

All right. We appreciate you, ladies and. gentlemen. Peter Shreger. [Music]. AJ, I don't know if you saw it. Phil. Steel did a little ranking of the Big. 12. Did you see it? I actually did not. see Phil Ste. Yeah. Phil Steel, the guy. that's been doing college football since. doing it. Yeah, exactly. He doesn't know. [ __ ] Hey, Phil. One of the most. respected names out there. Oh, boy. He.

is one of the most respected names out. there. So, when he's putting a list. together like this and it's crap shite, you got to call it out. Hey, Phil, don't. lose the fastball, bub. Now is not the. time. You're dodging Rich Rodriguez. Oh, okay. Did Neil Brown come in dead last. 12? No. I'm sure he did. No, I'm. assuming. How many times? Some point. Yeah. Two or. three? No. No, he didn't. here. But. Geller be shocked. I would have good.

question. Yeah. Thought that was a layup. here. I don't think he ever did. Okay. My apologies. More specifically, last. year he did not. Okay. So, Rich Rod's. going to get there and we're going to. get worse is what Phil Steele thinks. No. chance. Come on. Come on. It is a little. interesting though that we went and. checked the batting odds of the Big 12. Turns out West Virginia is ranked 12th. in those out of 16 teams. You think Big. 12, there's only 12 teams. No, there's. 16 of them and we're ranked 16th in Phil. Steel's guy. Don't love that. But I want.

the Mountaineer boys to understand Phil. Steel thinks you're [ __ ] Mhm. Expectations are nothing. We know the. work you're putting in though. Yeah. Good luck out there. How about Jim White. just shouting out his teammates for all. their hard work. Offensive line. Jim. White's a beast by the way. Running. back. Oh, we're going to run the ball. Yeah, Jim White's going to matter. Yeah. 16th in the [ __ ] Big 12. What's Phil. still doing? He's hanging out with that. Chef Changf. Don't put [ __ ] Phil Steel and Chef.

Chang the same conversation. Yeah, they're hanging out. They're. brainstorming together. They're thinking. of the same dumb list together. Phil. Steel and Chef Chang out there just tag. teaming to make people miserable with. their wrong ideas and opinions. I do. hate that he couldn't just land on one. top team. Got three ones up there. Didn't love that. U make a decision. Stick by. I didn't know that. See, Phil. Steele has lost his fastball. Two, three, fourth places. Yeah. Okay. He. doesn't know. That doesn't work. And. also, do we know if Phil Steele actually. did this or would this guy just tweet.

this? I assume he'll be doing for years. Magazine comes out soon. So, whatever. the case, West Virginia, you need to. know. Somebody's saying you guys are. dead last. Get to work, boys. Get to. work, boys. What year is Jeene White? I. think he's his last year. Okay. Because. cuz he's transferring or because he's a. senior. I think he's a senior. Junior. Senior. You say you got to hold on to. him. Wait. Yeah. Well, hold on for dear. life cuz I thought your best your best. player went to Ohio State, right? That. was another one. CJ portal. Portal was.

closed, right? Yes. But also that was CJ. Donaldson. Yeah. CJ Donaldson. Uh very. good player. Very, very good player. Very good running back. Obviously went. to Ohio State. He's a very good player. Um I will say Jim White though. Good. player. Good player. Dog. Dog. They had. a split backfield. You know those are. two ponies back there running Jeene. White good player. Got some big boys up. front. I think Jeene White if he was to. hit the transfer portal I think he would. have got a big picture. I think he would. have got a big but he didn't. He said I. want to do the work. That hard edge. I.

want that hard edge. Yeah. I do. appreciate those that stuck around. Now. I think there was a large group of. people that we and by we I'm talking. about uh the West Virginia football team. going forward wanted out of there always. like hey pretty evident you're not. supposed to be here. Yeah. Mhm. Cut. You're a little slow. Don't you kind of. see how everything here is fast. Everything we're doing speed based. You're slow. Everything we're doing here.

toughness. You're soft. Everything we're. doing here, football, you're a content. creator. So, there's a lot of that going. Good. There's a lot of that going on from from. my understanding. I don't know if there. was a lot of content creators, but. everything else I said I think was. happening behind the scenes trying to. get the culture in there. You know, we. got to get our guys in there, but those. who stay, we'll be great. They're not. going to finish 16th. No. And if you. finish 11th, it's a massive success. We're not going to finish [ __ ] 11. I'm just saying. Yeah. Okay. I don't.

know what we're talking over under for. them. Two and a half. Five and a half. Textile Phil Steel Big 12 uh conference. Really hard to read, but you see 16. there. And then what? West Virginia. Five and a half is the in 23 Neil Bryant. West Virginia were motivated by being. picked last in a Big 12 media bowl. The. Mountaineers were a powerful run game. and strong defense to a 9-4 record. including a 30-10 bull blowout. Last. year they rated a. shell of what does that sayus three and.

a half by three minus three and a half. and did not get to did get to six and. five before a blowout loss to Texas Tech. and Browns let go. Rich Rodrod returns. and does have four returning 14 14. returning starters. When Richrod was at. Jackson State, I picked them last in a. conference. Okay. Oh, he might. And they. went nine and four. So, I am wary of. picking them here, but it seems like a. third of the team was not even in yet by. the summer. So, that's a lot of move. Phil Steel hates Rich Rodriguez. Certainly. Okay. He doesn't believe in.

the hard edge. Fair. Hey, Phil Steele. Okay, we appreciate your transparency. there, but you saw you you gave it away. We just read it. Go ahead. Did you see. his running back rankings down there. bottom right? Number one running back in. the Big 12. Jim White. Okay. So, Rich. Rodriguez's offense is a running. offense. He did it again. Number one in. Baylor, number one in Kansas State, number one Iowa State. Yeah, but what he. also has is West Virginia having the. 15th best line. So, if we have a great. running back, but we you got to see him.

up front. But you got to remember Rich. Rod's offensive lines, we're moving, brother. We're moving. take some time to. get his people in there though. We're. moving though. Not It didn't take time. in Jacksonville State. Took a couple. years. I mean, they went nine and four. That's pretty good last year. Like, honestly, who? West Virginia. They were. nine and four last year. My bad. Okay. Can I say Neil Brown gets fired after. nine and four? I don't think so. Last. year was six and five and then blown out. at the end there. The Penn State lost. just really set the tone for how.

everybody was going to judge West. Virginia. That was the weather's fault. They were They almost made the national. championship though. We were on pace. before the game season started. Mhm. The. hay was in the barn when we were there. and that water bottle fell down and he. almost had a heart attack. That was kind. of when you knew me. That one was all. me. Yeah, but think about when we were. there for that the day before Penn. State. Think about the energy that was. on that campus. Incredible. Awesome. This ain't students fault. I have no. idea how many people were there. I don't. even want to put a number on it, but. that place was [ __ ] packed out. Ready.

for football. Ready for the football. season. And then Penn State, there's a. weather delay and that kind of offset. everything because we were prepared for. one particular game. New game came, it. was a lot longer. How we supposed to. deal with this? Even though we got a. nicer locker room and nicer everything. We didn't deal with that well. And then. it just kind of carried in the rest. They were making TikToks playing video. games. Today's got me so [ __ ] juiced. for football. So juiced. A lot of. football today. Drake May said he's. bummed football's ending. Mhm. Connor, I. know you saw the clip. Drake May was. asked about, you know, mandatory mini.

camp coming to a close in the offseason. workout schedule ending. That's what he. had to say. Good. I think uh I'm. starting to kind of, you know, really. kind of find a find a stride. I'm kind. of kind of bummed out. We're about to. leave. Um but uh no, it's fun. Anytime. we're going against a great defense, they got good players. Uh two great. corners. I tell Gonzo every day, I'm I'm. going to test them. I'm not going to not. throw at him or Yeah. or uh CD, you. know, two of, you know, I think the best. corners and one of the best duos in the. league. Uh what a opportunity for us to. go out there every day and and throw. against those guys. He was just finding. a groove and now it's over. Is he going. to be able to find it again when the.

season starts or is it He was not just. finding the groove and now it's over. He. now has McDaniel's new offense locked. in. You know, he also was one of those. guys that has to completely restart this. year, but he's not scared. Stefon Diggs. comes in. He's giving kids pop rocks. and, you know, enjoying his time, kind. of showing everybody. I don't think they. were kids. They were calling him daddy. And, uh, his his locker is right next to. Drake May, which is really cool. Got. that, you know, established number one. wide receiver. Got that O line. You.

know, I I don't want to put the car. before the horse here, but we got a. white boy from Eastern Washington who. plays wide receiver. His name's Effan. Chisum. Holy. This guy This guy is the one. Chisum's. got the pizzazz. Chis. Yeah, he's got the He's got the Chis. And Chis allegedly has led basically all. receivers in catches over this time. So, yeah. Look, Drake man went [ __ ] 11 to. 14 two days ago, 16 to 18 yesterday.

Today he probably went [ __ ] 20 and. two. So if I'm you guys, all I'm. thinking is God, I hope the Patriots. aren't that surprised team that comes. all the way back this year. Cuz if it. is, I'm probably fired by week three cuz. I'm going to be I'm going to be the. worst to be around. If you thought I was. bad in the sweet when the Celtics were. playing the Pacers last year, just wait. to see what happens if the Patriots. start off 6 and0. Could you imagine you. as a Patriots fan having that high of. the high greatest dynasty of all time. and then down we're rebuilding and then.

you build it back faster than like the. Colts. Oh yeah. Or like any of the other. You would be so arrogant. It would be. We did what you guys have had tried to. do for the last 30 years. We were able. to do it two years. Took us two. What's. so hard? Oh, we had to bring back with. Mike Vrael. Are you kidding me? You guys. bring back Jeff Saturday. That almost. worked. We bring back Mike Rabel. Holy. [ __ ] We're already going back to the. AFC. This hasn't happened yet. You're. running your mouth a little bit. It. hasn't happened yet, but I think. everybody in here knows there's a real. chance it happens. I'm not there yet.

just because new new offense. Yeah, you. are. You're there. No, I I Hey, we're. all kind of there, which is the fear. like cuz we all believe in Braves, I. think. Right. Yep. We all believe in. Braves for sure%. It's just like, yeah, I assume the Patriots are going to win. games again. And we just have to be. prepared for that as a society that the. Masso are going to be just that again. M. and they're going to have a reason to be. loud and and every the the silver lining. of last year was Drake May and now it. feels as though the only question of. this year is Drake May. So if we can.

just put ourselves back when we saw that. big son of a [ __ ] throw that touchdown. pass to Kan Booty down the sideline. against the Texans, I think we can all. be there like, "Oh yeah, they might win. 12 games." Anthony Richardson had a 72. yard ball to Pitman, I believe, or Alec. Pierce. But that's the thing we should. point ourselves there. How about the. fourth quarter drive against the. Patriots? Two-minute drill. How about. Teddy Times's playoff victory where he. went for 350 and 100 rushing? Who was. that against the Vikings? Oh, I'm there. right now, brother. In Minnesota. I do.

remember that. For 350. How about Jordan. Love? We'll see. I mean, we got [ __ ] Bo. Milton, the CB1 right now. So, that's a. kind of a that's that's a little more. pressing concern than Jordan Love is. going to be just fine. We got a [ __ ]. sixround receiver, you know, trying to. lock down Justin Jefferson. That's a bit. of an area of concern. I thought you had. belief in the entire I do. I mean, [ __ ] give him Hell Halfley. He'll get. the boys in line, but Oh, yeah. But I. mean, what do we do? This ain't [ __ ]. Pop Warner. This ain't high school. It's.

a bad one rep. Go to the other rep. Go. to uh break. Go to Rob uh Demovski. I. think he's covering him. Could he play. corner with number 80 on? Would they let. him? Yeah. Troy Brown did it. Oh, yeah. You can do whatever you want now. I. guess there's no real There's no rules. on numbers anymore from positions. I. feel like this is a good one. Ah, break. Oh, didn't come directly back to the. ball, but he was seem invading the. defender. He can't see. There's a guy. right there. Makes a miss and then takes. back. Glad you guys are all having a. bunch of fun. Did you guys see that edit. of uh Aaron Rogers? You go see the edit.

of Aaron Rogers Steelers put out. You're. talking about the video we've run here a. couple times. Oh, have we? I haven't. I've ran it a lot. Yeah, probably four. or five this one at least. How about. when he spins the ball at the number. eight, it's going boom. Tell you what, when those boys over. there at the uh graphics department over. there at the Steelers get three or four. months to know a guy's coming, they will. put together some [ __ ] How about the. darts on the dart board? Wait till the. ball turns into signed. Where is right. here? Boom. Agree to terms. You actually.

said agreed earlier when that was on. Yeah, I had a moment too when I said it. I'm like, god damn, that ball says what. I just said right there. That was cool. I thought it was greed. I was like, are. they saying he's he greedy bastard? What. are they opposite? Oh, he's going to be doing a lot of that in. you guys got a four-time MVP at. quarterback. I didn't think so. We do. Patriots dude, Tony, just check back in. in 10 years. Yeah, Danny Dimes. We don't.

know what's in store for Danny D. Greatness. I think he's going to be come. back player of the year this year and he. might win. No, remember that's not the. thing. Oh, yeah. They changed the rules. But are the fins are the fins even at. doing training camp this year? You guys. playing football or all I've heard is. just people potentially leaving. We are. John New Smith isn't there. Uh and M I I. actually like Mike Mday. I think Shrags. might have mentioned it earlier or uh. Yeah, I think Shrekes mentioned it. I. liked his answer when he was asked about. John New and Jaylen Ramsey. Uh but yeah, they're there. They'll they'll compete. and uh won't win a playoff game and you. know be extend our I think believe 26.

year streak now. Uh so yeah, kind of. bummed out about that. But um it's a. playoff win. Yeah, we can't ask B about. teams though. He doesn't give a [ __ ]. Yeah. About the Dolphins. What? Well, he. thought he only gives a I had a Dolphins. lyn yesterday. Yeah. Which is. interesting for a Panthers game. Dumpy. cares about the Dolphins. Dumpy is super. positive towards them always. Yeah. You. want to know why he cares so much about. Cona? Because of this [ __ ] football. team, you know? That's the closest I was. going to get to winning something. That's why I was losing my mind. Yeah.

I'm happy Gump showed up. Yeah. Dumpy. was bummed out about the Conca loss, and. I appreciate that type of passion and. emotion. He wasn't the only one. Fosso. bummed out. Talk to Jeff Cameron. Bum. dot. Meat sent me a message. Bum dot. Gordo Gerson has stop boozing. We don't. know. Gordo is an impressive. Gordo had. a very good tournament. He was a. workhorse. Yeah, he's a wagon. Gordo is. a wagon. Uh Leiddesma sent me a message. Oh, I love Leedsma. He's so good. Yeah,

he is good. Great addition. He was so He. said, "I'm so sorry that I did not play. more for you." Did you say, "Damn right, son. Get back in the gym. No one leg, dude. I said Leesma, you He scored. several goals. He was so good. His boy, too, was one of the coolest kids I've. been around. He's got a 12-year-old, I. think, that was hanging around team. Dan. Ben Benjamin. Benny, I don't get the name wrong. I apologize. He was hanging out with us the entire. time. He was cool. Leidd Desma should be. in the MLS. What? Like, I guess he.

played one year with Cincinnati and now. he just runs a bunch of themmies. Porch. meet all those guys there. We have so. many good soccer players. Yeah. Black. boots was beside himself. Mario. Yeah. Playing upside down. Water bug. Where. can they like porch? Where's he? Does he. he plays? It's crazy that [ __ ] guy. isn't in the MLS with how fast and quick. he is. It's [ __ ] crazy. How about. just watching that tournament? How many. good players there are? It's like so. none of these guys are makes you think. how we lose. Well, we don't how good are. the MLS? Yeah. We don't we don't have.

like golf, I guess, right? Yeah, exactly. You go out there and play with. a scratch golf, you're like this guy. with I don't know. I watch a lot of MLS. I'm telling you, there's room for Chad. Porch on that field. Okay. I mean, we. What about Lema? Yeah, legit. I don't. know why Ledzma only played one year. I. think Porch basically he had a try out. right before CO and he got hurt and then. he never got a chance to go back after. CO with MLS. So good. I mean, there's. like so much talent. Our team has so. much talent. Every team that makes it. has so much talent and you watch like.

there has to be a reason. like what. happened here? And uh we're lucky for it. though. I'm [ __ ] thankful cuz if they. were in the MLS, they wouldn't be. allowed to play. It's like a pro. contract at the highest level. You're. not allowed to be there, right? That's. why like Arena League. Arena League is. fine. Yeah. Are allowed to be in there. because it's not considered the tier. one. That was his he won rookie of the. year in the Arena League. It was his. first year. Him and Pacheco were on. Baltimore. Pacheco. Water bug. Yeah. Water bug's a. [ __ ] junkyard dog. Did Gorilla reach. out and say sorry or he sent me a.

message? Yeah. Is he Is he bummed at all. or he is bummed? My cash hasn't checked. Is that what he said to you? Check. Yeah, I don't [ __ ] know. It's. a joke. Damn it. You nailed it. But no, Grella was bummed out. They're all. Everybody was bummed out. Yeah, Gump did. say that Grella jumped in the car with. his kids right after the game and drove. back to New Jersey. So, I think he's had. a I I mean, I can't imagine that [ __ ]. He's They all wanted to win. Ga didn't.

give a [ __ ] I could see it in his eyes. What? I could see it in his eyes. You. weren't there but two days? I We were. there on Thursday before the most. important time and I could tell just. from the look on him. No, you were. taking a shot at different people. You. remember GRA is the third person on your. list. You've taken shots. No, I said. sorry to break earlier and then it's. just been Gorilla. Gorilla. Dragon. Talk about the outlaw bit. No, I did.

not. Look, I think the outlaw can look. himself in the mirror and say, "How the. [ __ ] am I leaving this place scoreless?". Okay, I assume the Indianapolis Outlaw. knows he underperformed and that's why. the Outlaw is probably working right. now. Grella doesn't give a [ __ ] man. He. was in Greta was in better shape than he. was last year for sure. I mean, lost 20. pounds. That that didn't show me. anything. If anything, we needed him a. little more beefy. Let's go to uh away. from soccer. Let's get back to football. Ashley Washburn. uh is reporting from Brian Gonkun. Uh.

it's just something we're going to take. a look at and see if it's a possibility. He's talking about Bo Melton. So don't. lose your mind. They're just seeing. there no stone left unturned. I get it. I mean it's just one of those things. where you kind of have a knee-jerk. reaction. So what the [ __ ] is that guy. doing out there playing defense? You. know that guy for the Green Bay Packers. Exactly. You know, I mean went to the. playoffs last year thinking May, hey, may this might be the year they take. another one. Yeah. Maybe have one. Now's. the time to maybe have one, maybe think. about having one. But instead, we got Bo. Melton out there playing defense. I'm.

not going to overreact yet. But I'll. tell you what, if they. they go into the season, and I if I see. this again in two weeks, I'm going be. beside myself. Luckily for you, not till. training camps. You got a couple weeks. you can just Yeah, it won't happen in a. few weeks. No. Yeah, you're right. Not. going to see. We'll we'll show you the. video the next couple weeks. Yeah. Yep. We'll let you know. This was happening. in June. right around a corner. Well, I get it, too, cuz Bo Milton had about 40 drops. last year on offense. So, maybe we. should move him to defense and see what.

he can do over there. Well, he did have. a drop on defense. I know. That's okay. You're not I mean, you know, a pick. isn't, you know, an expectation. Not. exactly. After after these uh mini. camps, mans, I feel like you've told the story. before. Everyone is just smoking tires. out of here for six weeks until Yeah. Like I think except Drake, man. You guys. shortened the weekend, right? Uh, I. think so because I I thought we started. kind of early, but coaches will do that. if there's high um attendance for the. voluntary ones. Like we were, for.

instance, at the Colts, I think we were. like 99% attendance for the volunteer. There was one player that was not there. Pretty important piece. Was paid a lot. of money. He showed up at mandatory mini. camp. He was injured. Okay. So, basically, we had already done. everything throughout the entire. voluntary. So Chuck cut off a day in the. end because the only reason why. mandatory really mattered was because. this one player who was going to be a. starter who was paid a lot of money who. showed up at the weight of a different. position uh not fat more muscle I. understand and was injured was not able.

bingo was not able to do the mandatory. mini camp. So it's like we already got. all our work in. So like I saw some. people talk about the Patriots. shortening uh mandatory mini camp and. being like I saw some people talking. [ __ ] on it. It's like no that means. they've already got all the work in. Yeah that's a good thing. That's not a. bad that means that's like a faster. practice is a good thing. A faster. practice means they've got through. everything right as opposed to having to. restart. It's like the longer practices. are bad. The longer camps, not saying. that a full mandatory mini camp is bad. And there's some people that probably.

have 100% 100% attendance that would do. a full camp. But I think more often than. not, a lot of the shit's already done. The mandatory is just like if the guys. aren't there, they're like forced to. kind of be there. But if everybody's. already there, cutting short is like not. a problem at all. It's awesome. So, you'd almost want your team Yeah. to be. at a point where they cut it short. Like, we know our [ __ ] Let's go ahead. and get one more extra day of break here. before training camp because it's going. to be a long haul for us. And as soon as. everybody's getting out of that parking. lot, I mean, there is. See you. It's an.

important stretch though. You know, coaches, too. Yep. Always get that. speech, you know. Don't don't be that. guy. You know, between this stretch, you. got four, five, six weeks off. You don't. want to be in the news for anything. Obviously, you want to show back up to. training camp in shape. You don't want. to show up to training camp and get a. soft two to tissue injury, you know, one. two days into camp and it just throws. your whole season off. So, this is a. critical uh point in time uh too. Yeah. Yeah. Don't get arrested. Yeah, that. too. Okay. I did that. There will be. plenty. There will be plenty. Yeah. That's why a lot of people want to.

change the way the NFL uh calendar is. It's like, hey, don't we think we. shouldn't have six weeks before the most. important? A lot of people want to move. it to later and lead right into training. camp. Have you seen that? Yeah. I mean, but we're adults. Like, come on now. Like, we're adults, so we got to be able. to treat them like an adult. You're. hearing guys that want to have summer. Yes. Yeah. Coaches need You need that. time. You don't You don't need to Yeah. I don't need to extend the season by 6. weeks by doing that. Yeah. That's. exactly that was being pitched, remember? Cuz after during COVID, that's.

how it kind of went 3 weeks or four. weeks into the season and everybody's. bodies said they felt better and all. that [ __ ] Yeah. Once you show up, be a. pro. Be a pro. That's all it is. you got. you you should like technically you. should be able to handle a little bit of. time off when you should work out on. your own and then not you know kill. somebody. Uh Stefan Diggs met with. reporters for the first time since the. boat video says Phil a Perry what was in. the bag. Obviously it's a conversation. that's happening internally says I can't.

have too much conversation about it. Boom. He gets it. There's a conversation. happening inside of me right now. Yep. Can't can't talk to you too much about. it. Nope. He was just back in Maryland. with his uh girlfriend. He was also. doing uh some sort of camp, I believe. Yeah. Bingo. Yeah. Yeah. At Maryland. He. was doing a football camp. Okay. So, that's where he was back in Maryland. I. did not know that. And then he runs on a. field and he's just so fast. He's. unbelievable. Wait till you see Aftton. Chisum, though. This [ __ ] guy, man. I'm not even kidding. You're saying Chis.

is the one. I'm I'm saying there's a. real shot here. We got an Edelman. Uh a. Cooper Cup. uh Diamond in the Rough if. you There seems to be a couple. similarities between those comparisons. Yeah. Well, he also he also has a lot of. Wes Walker in him. Oh, really? Yeah. There's some of that. I would have never. guessed. Yeah. Like Golden Tate, like a. slot like Golden Tate, maybe. Here he. is. Oh. Oh, the coach had coverage. Coach had great coverage on him. That.

coach in his hip pocket. What school? What school do you go to again? Eastern. Washington. Ewoo. Okay. Woo. That's what. they do. And then Chis comes in and. breaks him up. He does like the. Jabawaki. Yeah. Bingo thing. Yeah. Exactly what you're saying. All right. Chaz, good luck out there. He's a. rookie. Yeah, I'll draft a free agent. So, uh, we're going to have to put on. our boots, if you will, and really go to. work here. And maybe maybe think about. having one. Mhm. And then if you if you.

don't at this exact time, maybe in the. future you Yeah. You can maybe have one. a little later. some point. But at some. point, you're going to want to have one. How How did 77 not have one? I I still. don't know. Jose Antonio Medina Alvarez, uh what whatever the [ __ ] his name is, something in that ballpark. He needed to. have one. He needed to have a few more. Something in that ballpark. Full name. Fat. Big boots. They were. calling him Fat Tony earlier, which they. do call him, I believe. I don't know if. he accepts that name, but I know they.

were calling him that around the. tournament. He's so good. His you look. at him, he's not supposed to be that. good. No, he's kind of short. Definitely. round soccer. Want to be able to run a. lot. He is very flexible. He is he he's. special. That whole team was filled. I. guess they play in tournaments around. the world. They go play in tournaments. and win them. They weren't able to beat. Bumpy Pitch. I mean, nobody will from. They won the women's and the men's. The. bumpy pitch did. No, US women's national.

team won. Carly Lloyd. Nice. Hey, Carly. Lloyd. I don't know. I was watching the. highlights. I was following. She was in. the same hotel we were in. Every time I. walked by her, I said, "Legend, very. nice to meet you." She was with her. family each time. "Legend, very good to. see you." "Legend, very good to see. you." Cuz what she did with the US. women's national team, like real deal, I. forget how many years she was on the. women's national team. It's some She. played forever basically. And uh she. still got it. I think she had like four. goals in the TST. I think she had one in. the championship game. She did. Absolute.

strike. Hope Solo's team, Solo FC. She. made the uh Alt TST team. Hope Solo did. I guess she caused a penalty kick and. then saved the penalty kick. Classic. Hope Solo football. Exactly. Legend. That tournament was great. It was really. was long, man. Very long. But it has to. be, I think, for survival. Oh, yeah. Cuz. at the end there, your legs they they do. it as quick as possible. Exactly. Like I. think those elimination rounds have to. be that way or nobody will make it to. the final or the games would just suck. and be not entertaining at all. Yeah. Or.

whatever team's in best shape will win, which still Yeah. kind of holds true, which is kind of the NBA and I don't. think that gets talked about enough. Teams that are in the best shape in the. NBA win. I don't I don't think that is. chatted about nearly enough whenever it. comes to roster construction or team. building. The reason why the Pacers have. been so damn good, obviously they got a. lot of talent. They're in the best. shape. Oklahoma City, you watch them, same exact thing. SGA looks like it's. game 41 right now. They're like a 100. games into the season. This has been a. long ass season for these guys. It's a.

lot of running, too. And I'm not saying. the those haven't done it in the past, but it's like watching the New York. Knicks team slowly die while they were. playing against the Pacers, which is. clearly what happened. Even in the. games, fourth quarters, oh, the Pacers. come back in the fourth quarter. The. Pacers come back in the fourth quarter. It's because how good a shape they're. in. It's because like what they that's. like a part of the strategy like let's. keep it close until the fourth and then. we should be able to wear on them. It's. like the OKC team has the same they have. the same mindset. So maybe when you're. thinking about your NBA team you should.

say are they in good shape or not and. maybe that's why Nico down there and. Dallas was like enough is enough. It's. why Reic saying that. Reick saying they. need to be in championship shape. Luca I. saw Luca Oh squ wasn't squatting a. thousand pounds. I love the video. Just. post the video. Mhm. We got some video. of Aaron Rogers taking some dropbacks as. a Pittsburgh Steeler. Second. t-shirt. Or is that a jersey? Jersey. I. think it's a jersey. I think he's wearing a jersey. Nimble.

Look how nimble is the right word. They. got yellow sleeves. He's wearing a. t-shirt underneath the jersey. Classic. Aaron Rogers. Man, he looks good. Oh, look at the handoff. It's like he's. been there all voluntary. Oh jeez. Back. up. Yeah, definitely those running. backs. See Will Howard. Hey, get back. Get back. Get back. Go to go to the uh. go to the handoff there where he does. the. carry out the fake. Still still. pause. Oh no. Hey, get back. Get back.

Get back. Jeez Louise. What are the other quarterback car other. quarterbacks obviously aren't carrying. that all the way out. Mickey Mouse. They. just think they're comfortable in that. spot. Aren't the quarterback. quarterbacks are studying Aaron's No, that's the running backs. Yeah. Get the. [ __ ] out of the way. Jeez Louise. Going. first, obviously. Who is that? Oh my. gosh. What's the number? Rolling ankle. there. Lunch. That's his number. Oh, we. got another championship this weekend. Yeah. Hey, good luck to the Steelers. Looks like he's a-ok. Okay, by the way, Aaron looks like the voluntary OTAAS. maybe weren't important. What were you.

saying? Another final bosses league. What's going on? Oh, you guys weren't. aware. Okay, there we go. UFFL championship. DC. defenders. I didn't even think about the. rock there. That's on me. Sorry, Dwayne. The UFFL has their championship. Mhm. You knew that. Yes, I did. You can watch. it this weekend on Fox. On Fox. On. Saturday. Saturday. Watch. What? Sunday.

Um, Sunday. I'm going to make it a whole. weekend. D But, will you cover it for. us? Thank you. Boots on the ground. Boots on the ground. Daryus Jay. Butler. will be down the UFFL championship where. the defenders will take on the Michigan. Panthers. The Michigan Panthers. obviously very good because they had a. kicker last year that was making 60 plus. yards. This year they said we're not. just a kicker. No, no, we're a team. They have pukas, brother. And don't even. get into the the the beer snakes with. the DC defenders. They play good. football. Yeah. They will be playing on.

I believe it's Saturday on on Fox. probably might be Sunday. It might be. like 10:00 a.m. to be honest. They might. slide that thing in early so people can. go about their day. Watch the US Open. Darius can't make it at 10 a.m. If it's. at 10 a.m., he will not go. Any other. time he is good to go. Got to go to. Canada. What? Canadian uh Montreal Grand. Prix weekend. Oh yeah, I got it cover. Saturday. No, I don't think they do. qualities in F1. It's just make sure you. get the car on. Take selfies with them.

Is that what the F1 do? Take selfies. with all the cars. Qualifying. Yep. you. qualified. You can take a photo with the. car. You can certainly do that. Tone has. been looking for a long time on the date. of this [ __ ] uh 8:00 p.m. Uh on on. ABC ABC. on June 14th ABC 8:00 p.m. June 14th, which is Saturday night, Kirkens, which. is also Flag Day. And you can find that. um happy Flag Day to everybody. Sure.

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just want to win arguments more and win. games in my opinion. What? Whoa. That's. a good start. That is a good start. Love. it. That's from Mari Mirov uh at my sports. update. He is an actual aggregator of. actual NFL news. So I don't think he got. hacked here. Do we know anything more. about him saying this anywhere? That's. it's a lot. Does he mean the Bengals. organization or like the Bengals fan. base? I think the Bengals the. organization organization. Yeah, for. sure.

Paul Der Jr. uh is reporting the Shamar. Stewart conversation at his locker is. obviously not great. Clear the. frustration is bubbling up from a small. annoyance to something more. long-lasting. most notable something. very simple to fix. It's kind of. disappointing. So Shamar interested to. see the disenchantment with the. organization's handling of this coming. through so clearly now. I can't say what. I really want to say. It's their. contract. They can do what they want. with it. Some very frank and direct. comments from Shamar Stewart and why he. continues to feel he's 100% right to sit. out. Clearly very upset and frustrated. with Bengals that he is not signed and.

on the field. Let's go to that. Let's go. to the beginning of that clip and let's. see what he had to say here. This is 3. minutes and 35 seconds long. You can. pause that. Go full screen on it. Here. we go. I actually have no idea. I really don't. know. What have you been doing to stay. locked in and and you know, there's only. so much that can replicate on the field. reps, but what have you been doing to. make sure that you're actually locked in. when you're out there knowing that you. can't do anything? Great question. Uh, I.

still go to meetings. I still study my. playbook, you know, take down the right. notes. And then when I get some free. time, I go out to train at Black Sheep. Is it fair to say at this point that you. will not step foot on the practice field. in practice until you're signed? Yes. Good question. [Music]. Very bad. I mean, I've been doing this. for once in my whole life and then all. of a sudden it's gone over something. very simple to fix. It's kind of.

disappointing. Have they given you any. answers as to why they're choosing this. year and you to set a new president? If. I really wanted to say, yeah, I can't. say what I really want to say, but it's. their contract. They could do what they. want with it. Oh, that means something. You think from a player standpoint to be. on the field for training camp? It's. very important. I mean like you got to. get your body somewhat prepared to play. football. Especially me coming from.

college to the NFL is way physical game. even though I play in the SEC which is. very physical but nothing compares to. actually playing in the NFL. So I. thought it'd be I thought I'd be on the. field by now. That's what I thought. Representation, family, friends. Obviously you've got to lean on a lot of. people to kind of get through a. difficult time like this. What have they. been telling you to help you? uh. you know, just take it day by day. Pray. to God. You know, he's always going to. stand with me no matter no matter what.

Uh and just know you're doing the right. thing. Like some people say, we all agree trade will be right. Right. But technically still 1% wrong for being. under contract. So in in my case, I'm. 100% right. So, it should be a. no-brainer. And in Trey's case, I think it should be. a no-brainer, too. I mean, he led 17 and. a half sacks in two for two years back.

to back. If I was the GM or I was the. owner, take all my money, but I guess. they don't operate like that. But. this. uh I talked to him the last time he was. here, but other than that, no. Has this. experience soured your taste? I'm not going to say that. I mean, I'm. still new here. I still We still have a. lot a long future ahead of us. What's your communication with Zack. Taylor been like through this? Seems. very reasonable. Yeah. I like this kid a.

lot. Talk here and there. Yeah, me too. Do you feel behind. mentally? No. Physically, kind of. Sort. of. Not really, though. I still work. out. I feel like I'm still in good. shape. How do you make sure that you're. ready to go whenever that time does. come? Oh, I'm always ready to go. I've. been I've been staying ready to go. I. mean, it's my job now. I got no choice. but to be ready to go. Hell yeah. Are. you optimistic is the wrong word, but is. it realistic that you could practice.

tomorrow if something gets done? I mean, is it is it that quick? Do you think. it's going to be like a a light switch? Uh, let's see. We got what, 20 hours? Let's see what happens. Thanks. Thank y'all. Appreciate it. I. think he handled that very very well. Shout to Trags uh on X by the way for. posting that. Mike Petralia is the one. that posted there even though there was. a lot of media surrounding him at that. moment. I'll tell you what, calm, composed. Yeah. Yeah. I'm working out.

I'm down at Black Sheep. I guess that is. probably a gym near there. Uh cuz if. it's voiding the entire contract if. something happens, he doesn't want. anything to h obviously there's some. sort of and him saying their contract. I. wonder how many times the Bengals have. said, "You're coming to our team. This. is our offer to you and uh this is how. it's going to go." And then they asked, "Have you ever done this before?" No, this is the first time we're doing this. Well, I don't think so. And then him. talking on Trey situation.

The guy got 17 and a half sacks. I guess. if I was a GM and the owner, I'd say. have my money. But I guess that's not. how they do around here. Has this soured. your uh taste? No. I guess we're going to have a long. relationship. I mean, everything about. him, I'm like I like the way this guy I. like the way this guy operated. I mean, that was a real babyface move right. there. Yeah, cuz that's a really really. really tough spot to be in. Like he. said, you are taking that huge jump and. you got to just stand there and look. like the [ __ ] on practice that's not. doing what everybody else is doing. Um,

and we always say control the. controllables when you come in as a. young player and you have a team around. you that you want to trust. Seems like. he's controlling the controllable and he. as answered some tough questions there. uh to be in that spot. So, I'm. frustrated for the young kid um as well. Hopefully they can figure it out. But. this is this is probably bigger than. just him and his agent. I'm sure the PA. probably reached out to his agent as. well. Like absolutely not. Don't accept. that. So, um hopefully they get this. figured out um sooner than later. He's. already missed so much valuable time, especially with a guy that you you know. is going to have to make a huge jump. production-wise on the next level if.

he's going to live up to his draft uh. slot. So, um hopefully it works out. But. watching that clip, it it kind of. completely changes my view of him in. this situation. Not a fully negative. one, but just hearing him talk and. answer those questions,%. on his side. I was a punter, seventh. round draft pick, so I shouldn't have an. opinion about anybody really publicly. whenever it comes to playing the sport. of football, especially if you make it. to the NFL. But in my mind, when I heard. about this, I was thinking to myself,

rook ass rook, shut up. You know, like. this contract is not the one you're. getting rich off of anyways. Like the. next one is the one you want. we need to. be trying to get everything we can get. done to get to the next contract. That's. where you get rich. Like the first one. obviously great, but we want to get to. the next one. And as a rookie, you are. no longer the guy. Like you're in a room. full of the guys. I mean, it's a whole. new thing. So my natural reaction was. like, "This dude thinks the NFL revolves. around him. He has no idea how this go.". Then I listen to him talk, I'm like, "Hold the phone. I love this guy. I I.

would like this guy on my team actually. Why won't the Bengals get it done?" I I. feel like um I'm I'm very happy we. listen to that. And also Shamar, hey, staying on business over there, buddy. You staying on your business. I wouldn't. want to be a guinea pig for a new clause. either, I don't think. Now, how many. other teams do this? You know, like. that's that's the next question. Are the. Bengals the only team doing this? He's. protecting the next year, the next. couple first round picks because the. Bengals slip this into his contract. They can show next year's first round. pick. Well, this is kind of what we do. And they can kind of pressure their.

agent, whoever the next pick would be. So, I do wonder if any other teams are. trying to put this clause in. I'm. assuming they're the only one. I'm. assuming if it's something shitty, then. the Bengals are the only team doing it. Uh the the little tidbit Florio released. too that kind of completely pivoted uh. the entire thing for me even before. hearing that just because once you. realize, oh, the Bengals are just trying. to screw over their first overall or. 17th overall pick, their first rounder, there's no point uh in agreeing with the. Bengals in any situation. Is is there a.

president of like him Mr. of of a Mr. President? Yeah. President whatever. Uh. is is there a situation where a. firstrounder has just never Bosa? Right. The Bossas. I think something happened. with the Boss. I I'm But I mean like. never theirs was money in Bosa sign like. Monday of week one like where no one you. just never signed your first wasn't he. drafted to a team in the Raiders maybe. and he just didn't go. went to I think. it was like the Bucks or something and. he told him before they drafted him. like, "Hey, if you draft me, I'm not.

going to they want to play baseball.". Joey missed all the preseason games. His. contract didn't get done until right. Yeah, both of them. I think both. But I. think that's when it's money. That's one. thing cuz wasn't their whole speed. guarantees money. Yeah. This one is a. clause on future voids. And they they. were both top three picks. This is the. 17. Hey, shout out to the young agent. reading through that thing and finding. clause. He had to send it. I would. assume he sent it to multiple other. agencies friend. Hey, is this this isn't. normal, right? Like we can't be signing. this. You got to remember those lawyers,

too. They'll sneak a clause in there. deep 30 pages, 40 pages in, 20 pages in. You know, they do that. So, other. lawyers are forced to be hired to read. through these things. Whereas, whereas, whereas. where. we're four pages in and whereas has only. said one [ __ ] thing, but who wants to. sit here and do all this? Oh, other. lawyers do. So, you need to hire another. lawyer to deal with the other lawyer. So, then lawyers always have what? Work.

billable hours. And this agent. and the lawyers that read through it, if. it's not him, if the lawyers for the. agent read through it, whatever found it. were like, nope, that's a good deal. Good for them. Yeah, I'm happy they did. that. Uh Jake Arthur at Jake Arthur NFL. is reporting that uh first series of 11. on 111. Daniel Jones three of three hit. Michael Pitman for a touchdown fake. Wow. Over Justin Wallally. That competition. was short.

There it is. [Laughter]. That's what it's all about. That's Dan's. house. Mhm. DJ. Yeah. Three for three. Yeah. Justin Wallally's a [ __ ] player, too. Yeah. He's always got good eyes on. fades. That's why they had him in. He is. a red zone defender. Oh, yeah. He's in. there for the fade, actually. And Daniel. Jones said, "Catch his fade." And he. said, "Wallally, I'm doing it." Wallally had no shot.

Pit's a dog. Pman's fishing with Riley. Leonard already. Yeah. It feels like. team's more together than it's ever. been. Gotta love. They got some weapons. though, man. Drafted Tyler Warren. Pitman downs. Pitman never speaks to the. media. Dog would break his back on a. football field for the Indianapolis. Colts. Yeah. And he tried. Has almost. did. He tried. And he would. Hey, talk. about darkhorse teams. Uhoh. I think.

that's why they call Daniel Jones is the. dark horse. They do. It's his nickname. I thought it was Vanilla Fit. It is. But. well, that's a whole another nickname. He is many. He's just going by Indiana. Dan now Jones. Yeah, sure. In Dan in Yeah. Yeah. In Daniel in. Daniel Jones. Well, then you're inside. of him. We trust. Indiana Jones.

Indiana Jones. I knew you'd get there. Indiana Jones. Hopefully he starts. Who else? Riley Leonard. I'm okay with. that, too. I mean, is that [ __ ]. Cowboy still there? Who? Sam Allinger. You're right. I don't know. I think What. about uh Oh, who was there last year. that you loved in the preseason? [ __ ]. Hakob Een. No, Jason Bean. Jason Bean. was a dog. Bean was a dog. Why were we. getting rid of Bean? I don't know. I. didn't fully understand that one. I did. not fully understand why we got rid of. Bean. Bean was a little bit of a dog.

How about the YouTube TV ball right. here? Pretty cool. Pretty cool. Oh, okay. Yeah, they get it. They get. it. I mean, stats and workout videos can. really paint a picture in the offseason. for you. I mean, stats from practice. Are you Are you talking about for me or. for everybody? They translate everybody, you know, like, hey, something happened. I don't know. Oh, you put out a picture. of you lifting weights. All is well. Bingo. Stefan Diggs put out a video of. him working out with his route doctor or. whatever it was. And I was so impressed.

that he was able to go from knee injury. to yacht to that practice all within. seemingly three days. I was like, "This. guy, he's got a superhero. He's in he's. in great shape." And he shows up at. OTAAS running around. Mhm. Yeah. You're. right. I will change my mindset. Cam. Newton. Uh when I saw him do that one. workout video, I knew everybody need to. sign him before the Patriots. Yeah. Yeah. And I'll tell you what, maybe. didn't work out as well as it should. have, but it's a good start. He hurt. your shoulder. Yeah, he got hurt. What. do you want from He launched a new video.

or a new show? Yeah. Uh he was part of. the BET Awards last night. Him and. Ashley Nicole Moss start a spin-off of. 106 Park. 106 sports. Really? I'm sure. it'll be some blend of sports. Oh, that. was huge in the locker room. Oh yeah. 106 in Park. Uh big celebration last. night, I guess. Yeah. Yeah. B Wild. performed. Le Wayne performed some old. [ __ ] Um T Pay. So yeah, it was very uh. targeted to our generation for sure. Yeah. 106 and Park had a hell of a run. Yeah. Freestyle Friday. So good. So good, man.

I thought about Bowwell cuz he reshed up. at 106 and Park. I think that's where he. re-entered my life from back in the day. Basketball is my favorite sport, you. know. Yeah. Like Mike, I like the way. they dribble up and down the court. Yeah. Like that was ba right when he was. when he was a little guy. Yeah. Just a. little bow. And he popped back at life. at 106 in Park. I was like, "Holy [ __ ]. he's an adult now." And he was awesome. also in the Fast and Furious franchise, he'd pop back up. Oh, yeah. It was 106.

in Park or TRL when you got home from. school. Whatever videos were was was. rocking at the time. That was great. times. Oh yeah. Oh, to be young again. Yeah, probably. So, and Home Improvement came. on. God, what was right what was right. before 106 in Park? Was it the basement. with Big Tigga? That show was [ __ ] awesome. It was. big. Hell of a run. It was. These young. bucks have no idea. No idea. Those days, you have no clue what it was like back. then. It's a shame. You know what? Your.

world now better than ever. That's what. we'll say. They got streamers now. Yeah. Watch Minecraft. Yeah, those dudes. Sweet. Minecraft. Great movie. They said. everybody saying it's good. I'm sure. they did. How come streamers always have. weird names? Be catchy. It's a stage. name. What are you talking about? I. mean, it's always like I can't even I'm. not even going to try to come up with. something. You can try a few of them. Good. Go ahead. First of all, I would. like to say Kai and Drewuski joining. Kevin Hart last night. Banger anytime. they're together. I'm a big Drewki fan. Got a chance to watch him operate. He is.

hilarious. Mhm. His white guy. Good. Oh. yeah. Solid. Solid. So good. Yeah. How's. my uncle Ed? He's dressed up like my. uncle Ed. Rest in peace. He was my uncle. Ed in that in that entire thing. Awesome. Absolutely awesome. Kai and speed they want to run run. I. don't know how much that that's got to. be so much just. what are they watching me live all right.

every day they gota go Jake Paul and. Logan Paul used to do that it's every. day bro is their thing it's like it it. is the the work ethic I don't think is. talked about about these streamers. congrats to them they're also all in. love what happened at streamer. university there was a lot of love that. was going on a lot of drama down there I. don't know I think there's some drama. going on in love world some drama. yesterday because Kai didn't know who. Wall was that was a little bad. Yeah, I. heard Wall-E went up to him and say, "You made me look like a dumb dumb.". Yeah, he did. He doesn't know about left.

hand up. He said, "Who's Wall-E?". Kai said that. Yeah. Did he really? Oh, I'm dead serious. Yeah. Yeah. And then. not good. Yeah. Not good. Okay. Maybe. Wall-A will go back into the booth. Maybe that'll send Why is my name Wall? And they keep saying whale is an old. line. Yeah. Now he can say, "Why is my. name Wall?" And these youngs call me. Wall-E. Yeah. And he goes right back in. there. Hopefully.

You ever listen to Waka Flocka these. days? Holds up. I haven't. And Aaka. always goes. He always goes hard. Whenever he was going to be at Monday. Night Raw, I was trying to explain to. Michael Cole who Waka Flocka was. He. said, "Who is Walka Flocka Flame?" I. said, "Bangers only." Oh. He said, "What. do you mean? We're on the bus. Loud. sound system. just straight to Walker's. top five. They all sound pretty much the. same. I I did not Turn it up though. I. didn't know he had a diamond record. until when he was showing overall and.

they had I think on it on his had a. diamond [ __ ] No hands. I think Yeah. So. good. Might have been that one. Yeah. Think about how many. Yeah. Everywhere. Hard in the paint. It's a party. It's a. party. It's a party. Grocery party. Yeah. Absolutely. There's another one. They got a whole lot of money. [ __ ]. coming for me. It's a party. It's a party. It's a. party. And then he just stopped out of. nowhere. Then he started DJing. I watch. him do a DJ set here in Indianapolis,

Indiana. He just pressed play and then. just literally. [ __ ] two hours straight. Who? Nick, were you with me when that? Yeah, I. think you were with me. Yeah, it's quite. the uh hustle to watch. It was awesome. It was incredible. Who did we do that. with in Vegas? He wasn't on the ones. Oh, it was Germaine Dupri. I mean, he. might have been on the ones. He might. have been on the ones and twos. I'm not. 100% sure, but he was just playing. bangers and then he was just sitting up. there going nuts. Just going and then I. think he was flying out of there to go. hit another gig afterwards. A good gim. I'm like, "Wow, great. This is a good I.

would like to let him know uh where we. watched him do his thing. Place was lit. I mean, the party was he mission. accomplished. Then he hopped in a plane. went and did it somewhere else. I think. he started with it's a party. It's a. party and his dreads just flying into. the front. It was crazy. That's a good. gimmick if you can get it. Mhm. Why. don't you guys We need to make some. music. Yeah, let's do that. Someone. should cuz you know after Waka in that. era music kind of died. Morgan Wallen's. got like a hundred songs. Hip-hop music. kind of died. Whoa. I mean I know Little.

Nou is cool and that's not his name. Moo. I ate Nou the other day. Little sushi. The sushi from Nou wasn't bad. It was. actually pretty. You don't know who Lil. Mamboo is? No clue. You know who Lily? You're about to get miss hands in a. second. Do you know Lil Man Jay? I've. seen him in the chat a couple times, but. I don't know. I couldn't recognize the. song. You know why you saw him in the. chat? Debbone is disrespectful.

Song of the summer. Dude, let me hear. it. Gumps. I just want to pick you up. Are you. talking about the new one? Sipping. Whichever one. Little man Jay. All right, let's get the. [ __ ] out of here. You guys are the. greatest. Hey Jay, we'll see you. tomorrow. Be a friend. Tell a friend. something nice. Change your life. We're. in this thing together. Team on me. Team. on three. One, two, three. Team. Goodbye.