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[Music]. Hello beautiful people and welcome to. our humble abode the thunderdome on this. training camp Tuesday July 22nd 2025. this program begins now. sports. >> are happening in a massive way 26 teams. have checked into training camp today. Two teams remain to be checked in. tomorrow including the Pittsburgh. Steelers which we will be joining them. at their training camp next Wednesday. Football has officially happened. We're.

going to have helmets on fields. >> Yeah. >> We have pictures of players arriving at. buildings. We have every team at the. bottom of the mountain trying to get to. the top. >> That's right. >> I want to let everybody know. >> all these other teams. >> Say it with me. Nine. You're NFL vet. >> Darius J. Butler. >> Anthony Richardson. >> Uhhuh. >> Thin. >> Good. >> Anthony Richardson looks jocked. >> Anthony Richardson. Jawa. Anthony. Richardson looks like he's about to take. over the entire AFC. >> Yeah. >> Let's go. Aore. >> Uh-huh. Love seeing that fresh off a good. shoulder. Do it.

>> He does, doesn't he? >> Yeah, sure. >> But whenever we're looking at pictures. of people, I think you can tell. There's. been a couple training camps I've showed. up 270. >> Yep. >> This guy has a lot of work to do. >> Sure. >> Going to see me in long sleeve, >> sweatpants, >> the bulkan summer. >> The bogan had a great summer. Yeah. Then. you show up on in shape, it's like kind. of more mid-season form. I think we can. get things from initial photos from. training camp. >> Yes, for sure. We saw some other photos. with the team kicking I think in Cali, right? some of the receivers, some of. the uh couple of the quarterbacks, Dan. Jones AR as well. But uh showing up to. camp, you know, showing up to camp, you.

got to show up in shape. That's half the. battle because you don't want to be. gass, you know, being tired. That makes. cowards of us all when you're showing up. in shape. I think that's been an issue. where they are. You know, you've talked. about it. A lot of people have talked. about, he talked about it, tapping out, being tired. You got to be in shape, especially Yes. You talked about it. loudly. especially as the quarterback, the leader, you're coming in for a. quarterback competition. You want to see. this guy fit and ripped. That's why he. was drafted where he is. So, um I think. showing up, showing up is half the.

battle. And I can't wait to see this. battle. >> I want to let him know I am ready to be. his biggest fan like I was drafted. >> Yeah. >> Like whenever I saw him do everything. that he did with the spin move, spike, the whole thing. I mean, he is. electrifying. Just felt as if he didn't. fully comprehend the position that he. was in. now a couple years of. experience, some more injuries going. into a make it break a year with the. ownership actually saying, "Hey, there's. enough time here on his deal for him to. go ahead and cement a future with the. Indianapolis Colts." Everything looks. up. He's in competition though with.

Danny Dimes. That's right. >> Danny Dimes has been down a long road as. well. Has a lot of adversity, but these. are the type of storylines that are. already starting. These are the type of. combos that we're allowed to have. because teams are back at training camp. Next week, training camp with the. Pittsburgh Steelers. Next Thursday, Hall. of Fame game. Holy [ __ ] we made it to. football season. Yeah, >> talks to tables here at Boston Conor and. at Tai Schmidt. Good to see you, boys. You look fantastic. It's not just about. us today, is it? >> No, it's not. >> It's not just about the NFL teams. checking in training camp, although. there's a lot. It's not just about Jerry. Jones saying [ __ ] he might get shot in. the [ __ ] head.

>> Yeah, >> we don't know. >> It's valid. >> You want to pay a guy money? I don't. >> What if he gets shot in the head and. dies? >> Wait, he don't leave. >> Then what? >> How about this? What if he's out at a. bar? Okay, he has a beer. We all have. beers. >> He accidentally slips, falls, busts the. bottle, falls further, slice his throat. Jeez. >> Bleeds out in the bar. >> Could happen. >> Everyone's screaming. Sh. Why am I. paying a guy $100 million? These are. decisions you got to make. You know, these are this real. You ever pay a guy. a lot of money then he gets hurt and. doesn't play? I have [ __ ] Basically. what he said about Mike Parson's opening.

day of training camp. >> Micah then. participates in the whole thing. >> Mhm. >> By retweeting JJ Watt saying JJ's going. what. >> chair first day of training camp. >> Come on. Don't you throw Dak under the. bus from what happened a couple years. ago and then oh yeah by the way here's. Michael let's throw him under the bus as. well when you're in the middle of. potentially negotiating your kids. negotiating and then Micah reposts it. It's like so Dallas Cowboys are right in. the middle where Dallas Cowboys always. are [ __ ]. >> Yeah. >> Just absolutely buzzing quickly. So we. don't need to talk about that. We can. talk about Brown in Cincinnati.

>> Whoa. How about [ __ ]. >> We got a promo. >> I mean are we not turtle enough for the. turtle? >> Yeah. Bingo. that you know while while. he's speaking I'm wondering but then all. the things he's saying I'm like does. anybody want to go play for the Bengals. after listening to this I think it takes. a certain type of guy. >> yeah I'd say. >> now they paid Jamar they paid T they. paid Joey Burrow all the players that. play there say hey we love the Bengals. except for Carson Palmer who was willing. to retire if he was going to still. >> stay there and many other players of the.

past but it feels like a new Bengals and. then we hear him talk and it's like he. obviously loves the league he loves his. team he loves everything like that. But. the things he's saying, I don't think. it's going to bode well for a lot of. stuff. Now, we're on his side for the. Shamar Stewart stuff at this point. At. the beginning, we thought the Bengals. were bangling him. Thought they were. adding a little extra. >> Mhm. >> To try to, you know, undercut some. funds, which he was open about. People. saying I'm worth four billion. Where's. that at? >> I. >> I want it. >> I would like to have that. >> Yeah, that'd be nice. >> I'm running a business, you know. This.

is my business, how I'm doing this. entire thing. So, Shamar Stewart, we're. on we're on the Bengals side for that. entire thing. The Trey Hendrickson stuff. is wild. It's been multiple years now. And he said, "I'll have, you know, he's. still under contract right now.". >> So silly of me to even negotiate, give. him a raise. But also, we're doing it. Wild times right now. First day of. training camp. Getting a lot of quotes, getting a lot of action. It is. fantastic. But let's go to another. league. Let's go to a uh. Eastern Conference champion. >> Whoa.

>> Olympic gold medal winner. >> A Puma athlete. Boom. >> Jesus. Boom. Ladies and gentlemen, representing the Indiana Pacers, Tyresese Hallebert. >> Tyrese, >> we had to do all the NFL stuff up front. and you understand why. >> I get it. I get it. >> I appreciate you understanding that. With that being said, great to see you, Tar. >> Hell yeah. >> When you rolled in here this morning, the boys were so jacked. So jacked. We.

were excited. There was a buzz in the. air that you were coming. We're. obviously big fans of yours. How are you. feeling? Where are you at at this stage? And how how many weeks are we into this. now? How many do you do do you have all. that tracked? >> Yeah, yesterday was four weeks from. surgery. >> Okay, congratulations on a month. Uh I. think uh normally. >> my mom says not a month. >> Okay, cuz 30 31 days, 28. I mean, there's a whole. >> We got an argument about the other day. >> There's a calendar I think. I don't know. if it's the Mayans or the Romans. >> What's the month of February? My. favorite month. So, >> it's a great month. Celebrate a lot of. great things uh in February. Obviously,

Super Bowl is there. >> My birthday's in that month. >> Yeah, sometimes. >> Four. Yeah. one one time every four. years. >> Oh yeah, because you got the leap year, >> correct? >> Anyway, so you're four years old. The. the thought of you going through this. Achilles injury and rehab happening so. late in the season, it automatically. rules out next season. >> So when does that kind of process hit. you? When does that happen? And as it's. taking place and we see you kind of have. that emotional moment afterwards, is. that everything just flashing in front. of your eyes? like the series, the game.

next year, like how much of that is all. settling in in that one moment in front. of the entire world watching. >> Yeah, I think in in that moment all that. I am thinking about is that that game. specifically, you know, um you know, cuz. there was definitely a cause for concern. that that that could happen. And you. always hear people who have this injury. say feels like somebody kicked you in. the back of the leg, right? It's not. like the most painful thing, but it it. does feel like if you let like a. elementary age kid just come up, line. you up like a kickball, and just kick. you in the back of the leg. That's what. it feels like. And so when I went down,

I knew right away, you know, what had. happened. And um yeah, I think I was. just hurt that I wasn't going to be able. to to to be out there. And um yeah, I. think that was just all those emotions. coming in at once. But it wasn't about I. wasn't thinking about next year or. what's led up to this. All I was. thinking about was being in the moment. of of game seven. And you know, that. happening definitely sucked. >> Yeah. And you were probably going to. score 40, 50, 60, maybe 100. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> First one ever. Yep. >> May maybe 100 points with how big the. hoop was. I think you had nine points in. the first what minute and a half or. something like that. It was an absurd. start. Not your normal start. Normally.

you are more of a disher. Let's get. everybody into the flow of the game here. as a point guard early and then you get. your points late. I think in the fourth. quarter, late in fourth quarter, your. stats were absurd compared with. everybody as a point getter. But you're. also a guy who is the straw who stirs. the drink for the entire team. So very. rarely do you come out firing. and you. want to get everybody else involved and. you did and that hoop looked gigantic. which is why I think we're also. incredibly heartbroken for you because. we know how hard of a moment it is to. get to. Speaking of getting to that. moment, can you walk us through the. injuries? Yeah. Like because we knew you.

were hurt I think because we know you. and also we were at every game and we're. watching every game and talking to. everybody there was a little bit of a. limp and then if you would land funny it. was clear that something was going on. What was the road to that Achilles te. because that's obviously been talked. about a lot by a lot of people. Yeah, I. think um so leading up I I felt good. through throughout the playoffs. Obviously little nicks and bruises, whatever, but uh game one I felt good. Game two uh. >> game one hit game winner, right? Yep. Game one was good. >> What a shot. >> First game winner since Jordan. >> Hey, what a shot. >> The finals.

>> What a who? Just two. Just two. >> Just two guys I think since what was it. 1998? And it's Tyrese and Michael Jordan. with Buzzer Breeders in the NBA finals. >> Hey, not bad. Also both Olympic gold. That's right. >> It's not bad company to be in there. obviously. But what a moment. You had a. lot of these moments throughout. playoffs. I think the boys are probably. going to ask about them, but that's why. it was such a cool thing to kind of. watch it all. But game one, you're. feeling incredible. You're feeling good. >> Game one, I felt good. Game two, throughout the course of the game, I. started to feel kind of some pain in the. back of my leg. Uh just thought I was. dehydrated. I tend to not drink a ton of.

water on game day. I get a little antsy. So, I'm thinking I'm just a little. dehydrated. Just got some hydrated. >> Who's your water? >> That's like rule number one. >> Yeah, you got to stay hydrated. >> I could do I I could do a better job. I. have my dad. When I'm a child, if I had. a headache, my dad drink water. >> Do you guys hydrate correctly every day? >> Every day. But I'm not gone. No, you. don't. Every day, brother. >> Hey, check my piss. It is a light. yellow. >> No. No. Not every day. >> I got a champion piss. >> I had a bad day. I was excited for. >> You never see that. I understand that. I. understand that. I appreciate you.

getting excited. It's the NBA finals, but you know that hydration chart on. piss color. Yep. >> No. Mine's always in championship mode. >> Always. >> Sounds like he's always bad teammate. >> Uhoh. Yeah, cuz that's down here. That's. down here. You're pissing gold, brother. >> No dark brown. >> It wasn't all that. It wasn't all that. >> Pissing rust. >> Gold down. I was a little nervous. So, you know, I probably could have done a. better job drinking water. That's what. I'm thinking. So, I'm thinking, okay, I. just got some some pain in the back of. my leg. >> It is funny though that we as a society, especially in sports, if anything goes. wrong, it's like didn't have enough. water. >> Dehydrate.

Always strain, pull, cramp, you need. water, water, water. Headache, water, water, water. >> I think I didn't hydrate well enough. So. after the game, starting to feel some. stiffness, get some work done. Uh. there's a video of me limping to the. Yeah. to the whatever. So I get an MRI. the next day just to be sure that. nothing's going on. Um there's just some. swelling, but you know, nothing that. really caused any real concern. You. know, it's like, okay, I'm just going to. play through it. I got pain, but it's. NBA finals. Let's do it. So game three,

four, five, uh definitely have some. soreness. But game five, the moment. happens where I shot fake chat and I. just kind of fall. And right there, I. felt a pull in the back of my calf. So. now that's all I'm thinking about all. game. That's what I'm concern concerned. about is my leg. So I get an MRI again. the next day. Now I have a calf strain. and I meet with uh the whole front. office, our whole organization. Uh a lot. of doctors who are much smarter than me, uh who tell me that I have a calf. strain. I got some more swelling um in.

the area and if it was the regular. season that I would have to sit a couple. weeks. And so I'm sitting there and I'm. like, "Well, as long as you guys don't. tell me I you guys are absolutely you. can't play, we're going to keep you in. your house. I'm going to play. It's the. NBA finals. What are we talking about?". Yeah. >> So I'm I'm in my head, >> which we love, by the way. >> Yeah. In my head, I'm I'm already. feeling that way. Um so they tell me. that. We get done with the meeting. I'm. like, "Cool." So we go to game six. I. got to pass basically a calf stress. test, like an Achilles stress test, uh. that I pass and go play the game. We win.

by a lot. So I need to play 23 minutes. So honestly after the game I was just my. calf wasn't even bothering me after game. six to be completely honest with you. I. got a massage after the game but I was. like I thought I was going to be in real. pain like really be hurting after the. game. Felt great. So after game six I'm. like it's done. The cast thing it's. gone. It's gone. Yeah. Uh adrenaline's. going to get to me. I'm going to be. good. So I go to game seven. I feel. nothing. I I feel great going into the. game. Uh I think that's why I had such a. great start to the game and my body felt.

great. And then obviously, you know, that happens uh in the end. unfortunately. But I felt great going. into game seven. It's just. unfortunately, you know, you know what. had what happened. >> Yeah, it sucks for sure that it happened. game seven. But I think there was a lot. of conjecture I believe is a a term that. we could use to describe the situation. that was happening about how you would. have known that potentially the Achilles. was going to tear in them saying that. they were going to hold you out if it. was a regular season game. That's cuz. there was inflammation down there. Is. that why? Yeah. And it just wouldn't. like hey regular season game we don't. need. >> regular season a couple weeks hope you.

know hopefully you let it pass let it go. away and you come back. Uh but the NBA. finals we don't got a couple weeks a. >> lot of Achilles is this year. >> Yeah I think we had seven this year and. >> three in the playoffs. >> Yeah I think. >> yeah big Tatum. >> all number zero and yeah it's it's. definitely unfortunate. It sucks. You. know, all of us are, you know, having to. battle back. But I think that there's. like a notion when guys get injured or. when this has happened so many times. that everybody thinks that they have the. answer as to why this is happening. Everybody thinks uh we play too many.

games, play too many minutes. All those. things could be true, but I don't think. that that is what is causing these. injuries. Last season, if I'm not. mistaken, I don't think there was a. single Achilles tear last season. And it. was the same amount of minutes, same. amount of games, right? guys didn't. suddenly get larger in the ca in the. course of a year. So, I don't think that. anybody has necessarily the answer. I. think injuries are just bad luck. sometimes and that's just what happened. But, I think that that's just what. happens in sports sometimes. You know, I. think there's no way to really control. it. But, everybody has the answer it.

seems like as to why this has happened. Well, I appreciate the fact that you. don't like that your name was probably. being used as something to try to change. the NBA and uh you're probably being. used as an example like Tyrese doesn't. deserve to have this situation happen to. him and your name is being used and your. injury is being used as a narrative. against the NBA I assume. >> Yeah. Yeah. And I I think I think uh. other guys who this has happened to, I. don't want to speak for them, but I. think that they could relate that uh. sometime most of the time it's like a. freak injury. Most of the time guys, again, I'm not going to speak for other. guys, but there are guys who this. happens to that it just they felt. nothing and then it happened, you know,

and that's not the case with me. That. wasn't the case with, you know, KD a. couple years ago with his he had a calf. injury prior, but I trust me, I talked. to him a ton. >> Yeah. Let's talk about that. How many. people have you got a chance to catch up. with? Because I think the Achilles. community is that I think it is like an. actual community. It's funny cuz KD has. said like he's tired of being the. Achilles guy, you know, but I think that. that has just h how it has had to happen. because not many guys have been able to. come back and play at such a high level. and he's been kind of the poster child. of that in our poster man. Sorry, not a.

child, poster man of that in our in our. game. So, um yeah, I think it's easy for. all of us to just reach out to him. >> What do you guys talk like whenever they. come see you? What do they tell you? Like, hey, this is going to suck. Like, do they give you like the Rio about it. and it's somebody you can lean on? Cuz. Tatum's what? just a couple weeks ahead. of you. >> Yeah, he's like 20 days. Yeah, >> 20 days ahead of you. So, that is a. perfect person to basically forecast. what's coming down the pipe for you. Is. that is that the conversation or what. else are you guys kind of catching up? >> Yeah, I think that's majority of the. conversation. Um I think more. importantly than anything of with.

injuries in general in sports and you. guys know is the mental side of things. and um I think right now everybody's in. their offseason so I don't know if I'm. necessarily I've felt the full weight of. it. You know, nobody's playing, nobody's. at the everybody's in the summer living. their life, whatever. Uh, I happen to. just be here in Indiana. Great place. Love it. >> Great place. Love summer. Great place. Great. Great summer place till 9:30, 9:45. >> Yeah, you can tee off at 8:00 PM and get. 18 holes in. The sun is still out. >> Great place. Love my neighborhood. Love. my community. Whatever. So, I'm here,

but I don't think I'll feel the full. weight of everything until next season. starts, the guys start to come around, season starts, and uh I'm not able to. perform. So, I think that's the more. more so what we talk about more than. anything. KD actually came and visited. me the other day. came to my house. Uh, which was pretty cool. We sat down for a. while, just talked and. >> That's sick. >> Yeah, that was pretty cool. Um, you. know, but I think that for me it's just. about trying to get my my mental right. and that that's why I'm trying to, you. know, I go to all the fever games. I try. to just figure out things to do to keep. my mind off things. cuz I got u you know.

a great village, great support system in. my family and my friends and you know. just doing everything I can cuz I think. the when I'm alone which isn't a ton. when I'm alone I sit there and I think. about everything that's happened and. it's kind of like God you know that. sucks. It genuinely sucks and like uh there I'm. going to fight like hell to get back and. hopefully have this opportunity to win a. championship again. But you know that's. not guaranteed and you know so I think. that that feeling definitely sits with. me sometimes and and that sucks. But you.

know I can't really control the past. I. can't control what's to happen in the. future. All I can do is just attack this. rehab the best I can and you know figure. it out that way. >> Feels like the right mindset. That was a. pretty phenomenal answer and shout out. to your team. >> Yeah, shout out to team. Yeah, for sure. Yeah, great people. Great people. >> Great people. Obviously, your lady Jade. side by side with you through this. entire thing. Shout out to her. Your dad. and mom, >> of course, >> more specifically, your dad actually. side by side with you here in the. Thunderdome. And I'll tell you what, the. electricity that that man brings is.

warranted of headlines. He is the man. >> Warranted of headlines. Don't know if it. necessarily needs the headlines, you. know. >> Yeah. I've been trying just so the world. knows. Okay. I have been attempting to. get John Hallebertton on a microphone. >> Sure. >> Because John Hallebertton is [ __ ]. hysterical. This guy is a lightning rod. Now, the whole world learned of Papa. Hallebertton whenever he and a Greek. freak had a little bit of an. altercation. >> Mhm. >> Okay. Now, John Hallebertton says,

"Yeah.". >> John Hallebertton says, "I didn't even. see you on it. I was celebrating the moment. >> He was locked in. My boy, >> we just had a great win. You Tyrese was. running the opposite direction. Go jump. up on a thing. If you do recall, >> scores table. >> John Hallebertton who is so beloved by. the city of Indianapolis and the people. in Gainbridge just goes onto the court. with a flag to celebrate. And the people.

let him on because he's so he's Yeah, you're allowed to do that. That's his. right. >> You're allowed. You are electrifying. here. You are like a part of our. community. He says his side of the story. is he was so locked into the moment he. didn't even see Giannis. He was just. kind of viewing there. Yiannis is so. happy. And then uh obviously that whole thing. happens and him back in the building. when he came back in the building when. he was up in that suite. What a moment. dude. Good for him. He loves you man.

Like he is a super supportive phenomenal. father. I I think is how I would view it. all for you. How was that entire. process? That that had to be pretty. interesting to deal with, especially now. that I know your dad a little bit. better. >> Like that had to be an awesome but also. hilarious and absurd thing to kind of go. through with the league, the team, and. your dad, and the NBA playoffs all at. the same time. >> Yeah. Yeah, that was definitely um you. know, it's it's definitely unfortunate. that that that happened, you know, and. and he feels bad about it and he's.

apologized many times for it. And you. know, for me, I wanted to be on the. right side of things and I understand. that, you know, he he shouldn't have. done that. So, right away, I have to go. in media and say that my dad is wrong, which he was, but people know people who. are in my position to have to go in. front of the world and say, "Hey, my dad. is wrong." That's not that's not easy to. do, right? And so, >> I go out there, I say it. So, now I'm. like, "All right, it's done. I said it. Let's move on. Everybody move on." So, then I get up for breakfast in the.

morning. And I turn on the the. television and people are up there. This. man should never come to a basketball. game again. >> ever again. >> Like what? Like have we lost our minds? >> Lifetime management. >> Yeah. People, you know, it it got. dragged. It got dragged. And so for me, it it wasn't something that I wanted to. keep the conversation around, right? We. were moving on next series. Let's keep. it. And you know how sports media is. sometimes, especially with a team like. us, the Pacers. Anything that we could. do to not talk about basketball, let's. figure out a way. So, we don't have to.

talk about the fact that the Pacers won. the series. And hey, they're a good good. basketball team. >> Nah, John Halleurn should never touch. the court again. >> That's hilarious angle for you to be. like, "Oh, of course we don't want to. talk about what we just did." And we. just ran a team off the court again and. just like we did last series. And coach. Carlile has all the chess pieces and we. are all moving perfectly. We're playing. phenomenal basketball right now. And. you, if you have been paying attention. since the All-Star break, we've been. doing this like this is kind of how this. whole thing has went. us and OKC have. been the two best teams in the NBA.

Cleveland as well, but obviously that. was early a early exit for them against. you guys. It's like I appreciate the. fact that you all were watching being. like, how come they won't just talk. about us just being. >> good at basketball? Like this is the. NBA. You took a lot of verbal abuse from. sports media. We tried to go to bat as. much as we could for you, but it comes. with the position you're in. You. understand that? You absolutely. understand. >> No, I appreciate you guys doing that. I. appreciate you guys. >> Well, you're. >> you are actual friend of programmer. our. guy. >> and we're very thankful you're in our. city like very thankful that you're in.

this state. You represent the city and. stay well and the Pacers have now gone. to a place that I didn't get a chance to. experience. >> in Indianapolis. I don't think a lot of. people have in a long long time. I what. was it how many days? It was a. ridiculous amount of days since the last. finals game was hosted in Indiana or. whatever. So, it's like you've brought a. lot of happiness to this place, but. you've also represented the city very. well. So, I'm I'm your biggest fan. I. think you're a superstar, man. >> Oh, man. I think maybe a superstar. Don't look now. Debot has a question for. you. >> Yeah. What what was obviously that was a. big part of the conversation, the. superstar part of, but I think bigger.

than that for you, especially being such. a team player. What was it like being on. the biggest stage in basketball, making. it to the finals? Pretty dominant run in. my opinion, to get to the NBA finals, going up against a great team in OKC, but what was that like? I know you. weren't as active on social media, but. did you feel like more pressure or a. bigger light? Like what was that stage. like for you? Well, I I I definitely. think it's it's easy to feel to feel. that, you know, because everything is. bigger. Like you have to we instead of. flying in the night before the game and. just treating it like a game, we have to.

fly in two days before. We have to have. practice so that media can be in there. for 30 minutes. We have to do uh. extensive media and and all those. different things. So, I think that the. league and the world does a great job of. already making it such a big event that. there's no need for us as players to put. more pressure on it. Now, obviously, we. understand. >> it's the NBA finals, like, you know what. I mean? Like, I don't think there needs. to be any more pressure than that, but. uh yeah, you definitely felt it. And I. think game three coming back here was. like the craziest home environment I've.

ever played in. And honestly, game seven. in OKC, probably the craziest road. environment I've ever played in, right? So, you felt that and you felt the the. weight of those games. And I think for. them as a franchise, us a franchise, you. know, both whoever was going to win the. series, it was going to be our first NBA. championship. So, I think that all the. fans got behind it. So, it was really. cool to see, you know, kind of two. smaller markets be in that in that. situation. And I think all all our fans, our fans and their fans rallied behind. our teams and I think that just made it. a lot of fun. >> It was a wonderful ratings for the.

finals as a whole were up uh 10% which. is huge. Shane Gillis said that. everybody that was sitting around SGA at. the SPS was in foul trouble. Um, now. that is obviously a joke because that is. the conversation about the finals and. basically the entire playoff series. He. was unbelievable to watch. I actually. got a chance to talk to him in a uh. hotel in LA. I come down elevator, pop. out, he's right there to the left behind. somebody and I saw him.

and I go literally stare at him for like. 5 seconds. Dead stare. He had feel so. awkward. I think he knew who I was. I'm. not 100% sure. And I said, "Uh, could. you have [ __ ] missed? That would have. been cool." And then I just walked away. I don't think he ever missed. >> Yeah. You said it to Jaylen Williams in. the elevator as well. >> Yeah. Yeah. Like they I don't think they. missed. Did you guys feel that whenever. you're playing cuz they were the best. defense in the NBA is what everybody. said coming in. They were the best. defense in the NBA. The best defense in. the NBA. You guys had the most amount of.

series. I don't know. Possessions. What. the [ __ ] you guys call it? Possessions. >> Yeah. They call it football, too. >> Yeah. But there's different. I didn't. know if you guys were able to use the. whole series. >> Called the possession. >> Yeah. Okay. You guys had the most amount. of possessions. They had the best. defense. That was a conversation. Then. quickly watching it's like this guy. never misses. This SGA guy never misses. And then the entire team kind of caught. on to that. They they were kind of. playing the same exact way. At that. level, I assume to make it to the. finals, you have to have an absurd. offense. Did you expect them to be as.

good offensively as they were? And is. SGA the best point getter right now on. earth? >> Yeah, for sure. I mean, we definitely. expected that. They're the best team in. NBA. They were the best team in AA all. year. >> Yeah, but it was the defense. Remember, all they were saying is like defense, defense, defense. >> Yeah, but they got Shay's the MVP for a. reason. So, you got I mean, >> what does he do? Does he do things that. are different or is it just like he just. takes care of the. >> Well, I think that from like uh he he. get paint touches at an elite level. Um. does a great job of uh using like he.

doesn't come across stature wise as he's. not like this big bulky guy, but he does. a great job. He gets to his spots. uh. can score at all three levels. Like he's. MVP for a reason. I mean, the season he. put together, you know, one of the. greatest seasons in NBA history. >> on a contract here. >> Yeah. Fire. >> I mean, that is uh. >> beast. >> Good for him. Tell stories about what he. did last year. And then he dresses like. Frank Lucas suit. That's right. >> At that damn suit was clean. >> So clean. Hands in the coat, too, while. walking in middle of summer. Coolest. dude in the room. Never seen it. Uh.

Connor has a question for you. Tyrese. >> Yeah, Tyrese. Um, first of all too, you. probably didn't see cuz you're not on. social media as much and like we've. talked about how you're our guy watching. throughout the playoffs kind of the. world's uh experience. The Halurn show. is sweet cuz you had a buzzer beater. every series and early it's like okay. it's round one not as many people care. Then the Cavs series happens sick cuz. they're the one seed. Everything's. happening. Then the garden choke. happens. >> Cavs too. I mean. >> Cavs. Yeah, you had the big ball. dancing. Then you had then you had the. choke in the garden game one. Then you.

had the buzzer beater in the final. So. like as a fan of yours, not the Pacers, but a fan of yours watching a good team. >> Pacers are a great team and they were. took care of us. >> Yeah. Yeah. But watching, you know, everyone in the world realize you were. like that guy was sweet to watch. So I. hope I hope you felt that at some point. during this terrible terrible. >> You got your flowers. >> Yeah, you got a lot of FL. People do. love you. Um with that being said, Mur. doesn't love you. Uh Pascal Seakkum uh. has was great all you know playoffs for.

you guys and that was kind of the the. whole reason the superstar thing was. happening was because Pascal Seakum you. know was doing so much and playing so. well. Great to have him here next year. That's huge. Not having Miles Turner. kind of a bummer. This will be the first. time you know it's in what 10 11 years. he won't be playing for the Pacers. How. has that kind of been this offseason. watching the moves? Miles goes to the. Milwaukee. You know, obviously, like I. said, not a Patriots fan, but the. Patriots fans I do know aren't big fans. of Milwaukee. There's kind of that. little bit of there's a beef there. You. know, obviously we've all seen it the.

last few years. And then, uh, kind of. him leaving. H how is that kind of. sitting with the entire Pacers team? Yeah, I mean, uh, obviously since I've. gotten here and just for the last. whatever 10 years, Miles's name has been. synonymous with our organization and, uh, he's done a lot here and, um, I. think that people have really taken a. liking to to to Miles and he's done some. great things. Been a part of some great. groups, but, you know, I think at the. end of the day, it is a business. He's. got to do, you know, what's best for him. and wish him the best moving forward. I. mean, I'm my focus is now on the guys. that we have here and getting better.

here, but yeah, wish him the best, you. know, moving forward. >> He's done a lot for the Indianapolis. community. He's been here a long time. with the Pacers for a long time. Obviously ushered in this new era of the. Pacers to have a lot of success. I. thought he gave a great speech. >> What was that? Uh maybe Eastern. Conference Finals. Gave a great speech. I thought it was fantastic. The way the. entire contract negotiation thing has. been talked about publicly is something. along the lines of like. >> they offered he found another offer, didn't offer it up for the Pacers to.

match it, took the deal before that. Whatever the case, it's like Miles was. great here for 10 years. We appreciate. him and his service. Got him out of. Texas. Yeah, there's a lot of there. there's a lot of ups and downs with the. Pacers. Ended getting to the finals and. now he's making 20 plus million dollars. in his 11th year or whatever it is. It's. like congrats to Miles, but everything. he says, you know, they're getting. clipped and saying, do you hear him say. uh didn't feel that good. >> Do you hear him say people some people. are going to be happy? It's fascinating. when you get to the top, man, people are. going to pick apart everything. That's. where you guys are and you're not even.

there for a year. >> Have you thought about that? How are you. gonna spend a year? You said it earlier. You said now that I'm not everybody's in. offseason. It hasn't really been the. weight of everything. Next year, pretty. similar team, right? Am I wrong in that? Pretty similar team. Uh Pascal's back. Yep. TJ's back. >> Call up Call up Fury. >> Yeah, Fury. >> Calling crazy. >> Crazy. That was wild. Poor guy. The. other guy. >> Oh man. >> Poor guy. >> The picture is crazy. >> Yeah, the picture. >> Yeah, man. That's poor. That's Summerly, too. He doesn't know fully yet what the.

life is. He doesn't know Fury is, you. know, first team all NBA next year. >> Yeah. He milk checked real quick. No. chance this is going to happen. And then. Fury was like, actually, uh, let me go. for that. Him Undertaker in his eyes. >> Mhm. >> That was unbelievable. >> Under his armpit. >> Yeah, that was I felt bad for that guy. Me, too. But I get Hey, when you try and. block something, when you live in a. pain, every once in a while, you're. going to get dumped. That is going to. happen. But. >> great relationships I assume are among. it's not going to be like a brand new. team. >> How what are you going to be able to do?

Have you even talked about what you're. going to be able to do with the team. next year? How it's going to go? What's. the season look like? Cuz I don't know. if it's pretty normal in your sport. It. seems like, yeah, he's going to miss the. entire season next year. They said like. the next day. I'm like, holy [ __ ] the. whole season. They're like, start doing. the math when everything starts here. You're going to miss the whole season. Have you started putting together a plan. like how to handle season or you guys. just kind of focus? You said today. driven, but is there a long-term plan on. how this whole thing works and kind of. how it's going to go for you if all. works out to schedule? Yeah, I mean I. haven't really even thought about what.

the season will will call for. I mean I. I probably won't be traveling as much. early in the year, you know, um. depending on stage of rehab I'm in, but. um I still want to be around the guy as. much as possible. I think I want to take. this time to just keep growing my mind. for the game, you know, be around coach. Carile, sitting on, you know, coach. meetings, all those see. >> pretty seeing what he's looking for. >> Yeah, just seeing what seeing what, you. know, talking to those guys and helping. at the same time. I feel like I have a. pretty decent basketball mind myself. So, just trying to help the guys as best. way best way I can. I'm going to be on.

the bench once I can walk, you know, standing up celebrating, cheering for. the guys. So, uh, yeah, I'll I'll I'll. still be, you know, there for for the. majority of things. >> Put you up in that suite that you kind. of taken ownership of for the fever. game. >> What's the timeline for that? For you to. get back on your feet, for you to ditch. the the scooter and uh be able to, you. know, be weightbearing on that foot. >> Yeah. Well, today is four weeks after. surgery. So yesterday I think at. >> Oh yeah, yesterday. Sorry. So I think. like. >> Sorry, you just told me that 2 minutes. ago. >> Yeah, my fault. So I just started. >> Hey, don't worry. You just worry about.

today. >> Every day. You just worry about Yeah, don't worry about anything. >> I uh yesterday I just started putting. 50% body weight with crutches. So by. about like seven, eight weeks, I should. be walking in a boot, no scooter. Um so. yeah, I'm I can't wait for that moment. You know, you take for granted the. little things like you know what I like. going to the kitchen counter to grab. breakfast and you grab your orange juice. all at one time. >> But now it's like got to go one time to. get the plate, >> one time to get the orange juice. Ah, I. forgot the syrup. One time to go get the. syrup. >> Fork.

>> Forgot a fork. Got to go back and get. the fork. >> Especially Supermax deal. New house. You're getting miles on those wheels. >> Yeah, definitely. >> That's a big kitchen. >> Need a gas station. >> That's a big good horror floor for that. thing to maybe it's tile. How are you on that rig? You feel pretty. good on. >> I feel like I'm pretty good. I probably. had two near falls. Haven't fell yet. So, that's a that's a plus. >> It's easy to fall. >> I saw you rolling around the WNBA. All-Star game. You looked real comfy. >> Yeah, I felt good. >> Real kick push operation. >> Felt good. Felt good. Can't walk. So, that's my I will tell you though, after.

I got hurt, I was on the ground. I was. like, "Let me walk." Kobe walked. I'm. walking. So, when I got up and went to. take a step, there was no chance. >> Help me. Help me. Help me. >> There was no chance. >> I'm not doing it. >> I was like, "Don't touch me. I'm going. to walk." And when I went to move my. leg, it's like dead weight on the end of. your the end of your leg. So it's like. the fact that Kobe shot a free throw and. walked off. >> Yeah. >> Is unbelievable. >> That's mama mentality. >> It's unbelievable. >> Yeah. They there's a book, a movie, a. whole thing. >> And certain guys have, you know, walked.

off when I went to take a step. That's. when the guys threw the towel over me. cuz my face was just like. >> I couldn't believe what was actually. happening in the moment. >> I mean, I obviously not great at the. moment in this situation, but the. thought of you running through your. head, what would Kobe do? Kobe did actually walk off this thing. Don't touch me. Touch me. Touch me. >> Yeah, there's no chance. Help me now. >> Oh man. Yeah, it was sad. If you you. want to everybody that was watching just.

I don't know what all the different. >> ruin the game. >> Heart drop, stomach sickness. I mean, you name it. The whole thing as it was. happening. So bummed out. Now had. bleeded half. >> Yeah. >> It's like hold the phone. This one's for. Tyrese. This one's going to be a good. one. And then obviously what happened. was Oklahoma City did what Oklahoma City. does of course in the second half and it. becomes what it is. But we were all. sick, dude. Everybody still am. Yeah. >> That's not how it's supposed to go. >> No, it's not. >> Especially when you're going to score 60. points in a game seven. >> Mhm. It might have been more than that. >> Yeah. The hoop was looking this big. Is. that was it cuz you said you were. feeling healthy. Didn't feel any pain.

>> Big hoop that day. >> It was huge hoop. >> Game seven, I was excited. It was going. to be fun. >> Ty has a question for you, Tyrese. >> Uh we talked a lot about like the media. portion of it and obviously you took a. lot of heat. Um, did anyone come up to. you like postfinals and I I mean like. before this obviously and talk about you. being the most overrated player and just. being like, "Hey, that was that's. complete bullshit." Like I don't know. how that got out. Cuz anytime we talk to. an athlete, it's like the talking heads. can say whatever they want, but if you. have the respect from your peers, like.

that's all that matters. And then. obviously you go on that run in the. playoffs and have all those game winners. and it's like, "Yeah, this guy's a a. bonafide superstar." Did anyone say. anything to you about that? And how did. you kind of just I mean obviously you're. not too worried about that cuz whatever. the proof's in the pudding look at what. I'm doing on the court, but like what. was that whole situation like as that. was continued to be talked about while. you were going on like a generational. run in the playoffs? >> Well, I think it came out towards the. end of the season. Um I think it was it. was pretty funny like all my boys just.

joking with me about it like texting me. all the time uh just talking [ __ ] and. I've just I've come to be the guy who. just use everything as fuel. So that was. just like the fun within it. And I think. as the playoffs were going on, you know, that was more opportunities for, you. know, my teammates to, you know, talk. crazy to people and and and people who. support me. So I think that that was a. great narrative that got added to what. we were doing. I think that just added. more fuel to the fire as a group. And I. think the cool part about our group was.

I think that everybody kind of received. that as like an indictment on them as. well. like my teammates, guys around me, like okay, well, if you think that guy. is overrated and he's like one of our. guys, what do you feel about us? You. know, I think as collectively we all. kind of shared that sentiment and felt. that way. So, >> that was just another thing for us to. gather around with. So, I I think it was. pretty cool. I have not spoken about it. or looked at or thought about it since, but I wonder who's going to be the guy. voted on it next year. Maybe it'll still. be me. Maybe I'll be in a boot and still.

get voted number one. >> That'd be cool. That'd be cool. I mean, you got to. >> Yeah. I wonder how you would be able to. be the most overrated guy. Wow. In a. boot. >> Oh, he's Oh, he's so good. Then why is. he playing. >> Why is he playing? Yeah, you're right. >> He's got one Achilles. >> Guy can't even dribble a ball and stand. up right now. Don't want to hear it. When will you shoot through this entire. process? >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. As soon as I get back. on the court, I'm back on the court. I. don't know when that'll be, but. >> Yeah. But like, so football-wise, if. guys have lower bodies, they're usually. working out around it. >> Oh, yeah. I started lifting two weeks. ago. Upper body.

>> First time. I'm in a hoodie. You can't. tell. I'm in a hoodie. You can't tell. >> But I'm jacked under this hoodie. >> Really? >> Yep. Bulking season. >> Are you shooting too or no? >> No, no, no, no, no. >> So, you want like sit down and. >> I probably touched a basketball like. felt one in my hands probably like two. times since the game was over. >> Well, welcome to three. >> Boy, do I got good news for you. >> Look at that. I feel just like it used. to. >> Yeah, my hands the hands still work. >> I don't know. I don't know if that is a. actual ball or not. We might have bought. that from uh Door Dash or something like.

that. >> Shoot it. How's the Puma deal going? >> Pum is going great. We debuted the shoe. in the finals, hit a game winner, first. game in them. >> Pretty good. >> Yeah, >> that was exciting. Uh, obviously this. season I won't be able to, you know, wear them on the court a ton, but. there's some other guys with Puma, so. I'm excited for for them to be wearing. them. I'll wear them on the sideline. Um, I'm sure you guys will all get get. sent a pair. I'm excited about it. >> Maybe a ca maybe a casual shoe since. you're not playing. >> Yeah. Loafer, if you will, or like a uh. >> maybe use the Halley one as your casual. shoe. Who knows? Well, you shouldn't be.

using the Halley ones as your grass. cutters. You You need I got to mow the. lawn on Saturday. >> Yeah, you need to send us if you buy. them. Do it's your property at that. point. So, >> yeah. But I'm just saying I don't want. to disrespect the Halley ones. Maybe we. get the. >> Maybe you got a Hi, one for cutting the. grass and you got a Halley one for doing. the show and you got a Halley one for. being on the court. >> Maybe some Halley Shelto. Hi canvas. >> Hi Shelto. >> Just make the eclipses and put a puma. That's what you need to do. You love the.

eclipses, bro. >> Everybody does. And they stopped making. them. I have no idea why. I've reached. out to the Jordan people saying you need. to keep making these. What are we doing? >> That's your problem. Maybe you just need. to get some some Puma suedes. You told. me you like the suedes. >> I don't mind the suedes, but not the. Eclipse. You guys just need to take the. Eclipses and just put the Puma on there. >> I got some other I got some other kicks. we can get you to, you know, try out and. see if you like. >> I went through a Puma run. I think the. whole world went through a Puma run. there. I respect the shoe game what they. have going on. The little racing ones. though. Past tense. Went is past tense.

>> Yeah, but everything's coming back. It's. coming back. Especially if you're. pushing. If you're pushing it, I'll be. back. Look, I'm wearing them right now. >> Yeah, those look good. >> They are clean. Those look good. They're. comfy. >> They are comfy. And I got a couple. blisters around my [ __ ] too, from uh. walking 18 holes. And these shoes feel. great. >> They look good. They look good on your. feet. >> Thank you. I appreciate that. My friend, these are my friend shoes. >> Yeah, that's tough. Yeah, the new Tatums. though. >> Um what's that? >> Said the new Tatums. We pulled them up. Those shoes are fantastic as well. >> I have nothing bad to say about Jason T.

It's my guy. I love him. >> Are you guys talking? >> Yeah, we've been talking. Of course, we're going through the same thing. >> What are your hobbies right now? >> You're going every WNBA event. >> Every WNBA event. >> You have that suite. We saw that. You're. playing games. You're playing video. games. >> Lot of video games. A lot of WWE. >> How's that going? >> It's going good. Uh me and my little. brother are bringing back our our Twitch. and our our YouTube soon. So, >> let's go. Sorry about that. >> Yeah. >> The Halley Bros. Hi Bros. Yeah. Yeah. Cuz you know I was I was fighting that. the Halley name for so long. I was like.

don't call me that. Don't like it. >> Why? >> I don't know. Cuz I' I got to NBA and. they started calling me that. I was like. I've never been called that. >> That name you've never been called that. >> No. >> What's wrong with. >> Then I got to Sacramento. Honestly, we'll give people the people of. Sacramento. >> the credit for that cuz you know they. say they say like Hela a lot and then I. think they just liked Halley and was. close to Hela and they started using. Halley and I was like I tweeted like. please don't call me that. And then I I. embraced it. >> That works. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Telling people not to do. >> Yeah. That didn't work at all. That.

didn't work at all. And then when we. were naming my shoe, they were like, "Do. you want to call it the Tyrese one, the. the Reese one, the Taiwan?" And I was. like, "Listen, it doesn't matter what we. call it." They're going to call him the. Halley, so let's just roll with it. So. now I'm just I'm cool with Halley. >> That's a good executive decision. No, you grew up in Wisconsin. >> Yeah. >> Not a single person said, "What up, Hie?". >> No. Your name's Hallebertton. >> No. In Wisconsin these days, they say. many different things to me. Not. >> How do you mean not positive things?

>> What type of things? What type of. things? >> Not Not anything. Not very positive. things. >> What do you mean? They say like, "Yo, cheese isn't good.". >> No. >> Oh, cuz No, they wouldn't say that. >> They won't let it covers anymore. >> It's mostly the people in Wisconsin who. have bad things to say to me. >> Yeah, but those aren't your people. anyways, right? Cuz don't you do like a. weekly haliban thing with uh all your. fans? >> Oh, what? The the haliban. >> band. It's a band like there's a guitar. player. >> Yeah. Yeah. With. >> and a drummer. Yeah. Hala band. Like. we're hala banding together.

>> They call them like that's what you. meant, right? The halibers. Like they're. all team. Yeah. They're all talking. Yeah. Like. >> like the commanders. The halibers. >> Yeah. Like a band. >> I haven't seen that. No. >> Yeah. There's a drummer in the back. >> The hala band. Yeah. the band. >> I love live instruments. Love live. music. >> Do you play music? >> No, not at all. Maybe I'll pick it up. You know, I did buy a DJ turn. I I. bought a a a turntable.

>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm going to learn how. to do that in my during my rehab. >> I used to get Diplo play some of that. EDM. What did you think of the WB. rocking with. a little boom boom in this thing? Off. >> Uh WNBA weekend was awesome. We came out. here and said that because it was in our. city and we got a chance to see it and. uh seems like every player really. enjoyed their time in Indianapolis. I. would say the WNBA appeared to have the. most fun out of all the uh the Allstars. Out of all the Allstar, the MLB. Allstars, um.

>> congratulations. You're being recognized. as one of the greats of the game. Uh now. you got to work for four straight days. here. That's what the MLB is. I mean. that is that is that is not a lot of. rest. >> Don't get a vacation after those four. days. No, you're right back. You're. starting on Thursday. So, like the the. MLB one is wild watching their schedule. and we're very thankful for them doing. that in the dongoff that they had both. in the game and the home run derby were. fantastic. The NBA All-Star break, you. guys get like a week, right? And it kind. of uh it's like a week. >> something like that. Yeah, I think.

Yeah, cuz we go. >> How are you guys going to fix the. All-Star thing? Are you gonna have the. stud buds just stream the entire week? >> Fix the All-Star thing. What does that. mean? >> They fixed it. They got the USA World. now. >> Oh, yeah. That's gonna be good. You guys. going to care, right? >> No, >> you don't care. >> Yeah, they don't care. >> USA. USA. USA. You don't care. >> I love I love this country. I love. America. I I was I competed in the. Olympics. I was there. >> You were USA across the chest. >> Yeah. Gold medal. >> Yeah. Always will. >> I don't care about those games. >> Okay. >> A lot.

>> I don't know what you're saying right. now. >> Tell the truth. >> I think he's telling a hell of a lie. I. I don't think it matters cuz we're going. to roll out Cooper flag and all the. rookies and be like, "Hey, >> and does it m I'm not playing. I won't. be in the game.". >> Oh, that's right. You're out. >> no matter what. So, >> going to need you more than ever. >> Yeah, we need your coach. >> No, I wish the best for the USA team. >> Do you think we could potentially bring. your dad out here to maybe win some. people some money, maybe a donation or. something? >> Let's do it. >> Love that. >> Okay. >> Wait, wait. How's he going to do that? >> Well, he's going to come out right here.

and I'm going to have this microphone. and I'm going to go down there and talk. to him. Uh John, John, if you can make. your way. Uh, into the Thunderdome, please. Sir, >> might be eating. >> the mashed potatoes. We order him a. bucket of mashed potatoes. >> He cleaned those. >> He's probably sitting on his phone right. now. >> Drink it with a straw. >> What is Bill wearing? >> I'm assuming your dad's talking to the. president or something. Honestly, during. this, >> you think so? >> Yeah. >> President what? >> President. >> He's watching on uh They're watching for. sure. >> They're delayed. Yeah. >> Yeah, they're delayed. 35 40 seconds in.

there. Ladies and gentlemen, without. further ado, a man who certainly caused a little bit. of chaos. A man who is synonymous with. being an electric factory. Ladies and. gentlemen, John How. [Applause]. [Music]. >> Yes. Yes. This is uh. >> Yes. >> Prozone. >> John, how you doing? >> Clean. >> Which putter? Which putter do you want? Uh I'll let you select it. Uh, which.

camera do we have here? We have this one. right here. >> Perfect for doough. >> John, how you doing? Thank you for. coming. We're on that camera right up. there on top of that brick thing. Do you. have anything to say to the world? >> Yeah. Here I go. >> That's right. >> Boom. Boom. >> Here he go. >> Come on, John. >> Here he go. >> Here I go. >> Here he go. John Albert go. Now, I will. say the way this came about is there was. a quite a loud yell happening from this. putting green earlier today when we were. all sitting in the other room over. there. That yell came from one John. Hallebertton. He was burying putts. So I.

said, "Would you be willing to do this. for maybe some money for some people or. maybe a charity?" And I said, "If you. were to make it, it would be abnormal. A. lot of people miss these things.". >> Oh, yeah. >> He said, "I don't miss. I don't miss.". John, do you want to roll this way? Do. you want to putt this way? Which way do. you want to go? >> I'm coming down. >> Okay. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. We'll do this. He's pract This is where he was earlier. We'll give you six balls here. >> Six balls. You'll have to make three of. them. Uh, three. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He. made Yes. Yes. Three is a lot. Three is.

a lot. Three is a lot. >> No, he made three in a row earlier. He. said he's been practicing. >> Hold on, John. Hold on. >> Does he not put his feet? I was going to. say, >> John, are you a golfer? >> Not at all. >> Not at all. Are you a putt putt putt. guy, though? I. >> I can do that. >> Okay. So, you'll go on to a nice putt. putt date. Maybe have a good night. Maybe a little ice cream, maybe a little. drinks, bury some putts, talk some [ __ ]. to the kids. >> Forget about the drink. Forget about. talking all the smack to the kids. But. the ice cream I can do. >> Yeah. You've never drank, never smoked, never swore. >> Nope. Not at all. >> And if I'm telling the story accurately,

whenever you and I chatted about the. entire scene, whenever it was said that. you cussed or cursed, that was the one. that you were most upset about, right? >> Yes. Because I don't do that. And to. tell people that I did something like. that, no, I'm not with that. >> Heat of the moment, a lot of noise, though. Everybody could have been. confused. But I do appreciate and. respect the fact that you were like, I. didn't swear. I don't swear. I've never. sworn, but I can talk [ __ ] better than. you. >> Well, I can do that. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yes. We know you can. Tyrese, anything to say to your dad here. before he tries to win uh 30 people,

$500 and a $10,000 donation to a charity. of your choice, Tyrese. Maybe uh. Achilles for good. Uh whatever the case, we will figure that out. So, this is. $25,000. >> The factory, >> the Achilles factory. Uh we'll donate to. a charity. We'll donate to a charity. $25,000 here. 30 people 500 bucks. That's $15,000 going to somebody. And. then $10,000 donations. $25,000 here, John. >> So, you think that's putting pressure on. me on something? A. >> little bit of heat, John? No. >> Never failed it. How were the mashed. potatoes? Oh, the mashed potatoes was.

great. >> Oh, yeah. Yeah. You got to have those. Those good. They stick to your bones. Amen. >> And every restaurant you go to, doesn't. matter if it's a fivestar steakhouse or. an Applebee's. You're ordering dino nugs. and mashed potatoes. >> No, mashed potatoes. >> What about the dinosaur nuggets? >> They can go. I'll take the mashed. potatoes. >> Boom. >> Nothing else. >> No. Mashed potato would be my whole. meal. >> I saw it. It was. >> Put his foot on the. >> Are you going to stand on the green or. you going to go off? >> It doesn't matter. >> Put your feet on the green. Stand. >> It doesn't matter.

>> It doesn't matter. >> Put your feet on the green. >> Oh my god. The ball's stuck. The ball. stop. Ball stuck. >> Yo, put your feet on the green. >> Oh, you want more? >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Oh, he's coaching you up. He's coaching. you up. >> Do you really want to win people money? >> Somebody who ain't never played this. game before. He coaching me up. Here we. go. >> Fight down. He said you have to make. two. You got to make two out of these. six. Going in this hole or the hole. right there? Which one we doing? >> So, the That's not a hole. It It would. be either two of the. >> or there. Okay. All right. >> You're going these two. The left one.

>> Mhm. Yeah. Here we go. >> All right. Here we go, >> ladies and gentlemen. First putt. All he. has to do is go two of six here. Not a. avid golfer, but a putt putt king. >> Here we go. >> No chance. >> I like the over. Over over 20. >> Oh, boy. That was bad. >> All right. That was not his best effort. That was not his best effort. >> Don't start. Don't start. Don't start. that you hit the ground. Little bit of. dancing that's going on there. All. right. >> Do you need some water? You need some. more hydration. >> Water. mass magnet up on the here.

>> There's a magnet on a ball from going. down on the end. But now hold on. >> I will say maybe there is a chance that. when you got your feet back on this wood. again, you know, you got so jacked up. that you know. >> We want to stay off of that. We want to. stay off. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Not. >> excuses and putt. No, he hasn't been on. the wood in a while. They banned him. from the wood. >> That's right. They banned me. So, okay. So, we want to stay off of that. >> Next topic. Next. Next. >> Could say he was next. Next stop. Next. stop. Next stop. He's very You're very.

sorry that that happened. >> Next stop. Next topic. >> Next topic. >> I got to go two. >> I mean, heavy. >> Oh [ __ ]. A house aggressive line. >> I get better now. score in golf. >> You got four more. Relax. Relax. >> I'm not worrying about it. I'm just. telling you there's a lot of noise over. there. John, >> it's bad right now. >> Let's go. >> Jeez Louise. He. >> said there.

>> Hit the ball. >> We might need to get him the mallet. part. >> Oh my god. That was the worst part we've. ever had. >> I got four. I got three. >> Three. Three. Three. Three. That was. horrible. That was so bad. >> You're not even You're not even getting. close. >> He's not comfortable with the lab. butter. >> Hey, hey, hey. Be careful, man. Be. careful. >> What? >> Be careful over there. >> Don't have to be. >> I have to stumble over that way. You. know, be careful, >> Tiger Hood. >> Hey, you are you scared of somebody. about Connor size, >> man? He better watch this stuff over. there. Hey. Hey. >> I mean, I'm I'm a little nervous about.

you. >> Nervous, boy. Better be nervous. >> Saw you hitting the heavy bag earlier. Giannis would have had it coming. >> All right. Okay. Let's We got two. >> Next off. Next off. >> Hey, leave that man alone. I'm not. messing with that man. >> Leave that man alone. Heavy hand. >> He started something over. >> Yeah. Yeah, that's what he does. >> Hold on. Hold. That hole right is where. we're aiming, man. I'm coming in. Let's. go. Come on. >> Bucket. >> Good pace. Never doubt.

>> Okay, I'll tell you. Relax. >> Everybody needs to relax. If he goes one. of two here, we will give 30 people. $500. >> Done it. >> This is so much pressure. >> All right. Hey, hey, hey. Let's Let's. remember what's all on the line here. Okay. >> $15,000 in giveaways to the fine people. on X. 500 installments. >> So, how much we got right there? >> $10,000 donation to a charity of the. Hallebertton's choice. All you got to do. is put that ball into that hole right. over there, which you've done one time. out of five. How do you feel going in? >> Oh, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Really? You had to say it like that?

>> No, it's just stats. >> That's a fact. >> You're one Hey, >> these are facts. >> You're one out of the last two. >> Hey, did you hear what he said? >> He said what? >> These are facts. >> Yeah, those are facts. >> Yeah. Well, what's the fact going to be. about this one? >> Okay. All right. It's going in. Boom. >> Too much pressure. Make sure he knows. he's on national television. >> Get him a spoonful of mashed potato. >> Do you want master this? >> They in here. >> All right. All right, Sean. >> If this goes in, 30 people, $500. >> Miss.

Damn it. >> That's all right. We'll still donate 10. grand. >> Okay, good. >> Good. >> Any final things to say about your boy. and how proud you are of uh everything. he's done, what he's gone through? I am. very proud of my son and I want the. world to know that I love my child. >> You're a great father. Very passionate. father. We appreciate the hell out of. you, man. Good to see you, dude. The way. you eat is wild. >> Yeah. Are you Irish? >> I got some Irish in you. I'm out of. here. >> Yeah. Yeah. Go to the back. Go to the. back.

>> Tough. A lot of pressure. >> That was a tough scene there. >> Got must got the clutch jean from mom. >> Jeez. Guy had no idea what he was doing. >> Fair. >> I've never seen Yeah, that was rude. You. didn't deserve that match on sport. >> Y pud tough. >> As soon as Yiannis comes up. Next. subject. Next subject. >> Next subject. >> I know you're very sorry. >> Do not gas him up. >> He is awesome. >> The last thing he needs. >> You think that's that's where your moxy.

comes from, huh? I'd assume there from. John Halurn. >> Sure. >> Cuz you got the moxy. >> Yeah. >> You can feel it when you do this. I. don't know if we talked about it. We got. the band over there, the drummer. >> Excuse me. >> The um the when you do this in Madison. Square Garden. >> and when you do the big ball dance. >> in Cleveland, >> that's something you've always done like. since you're a kid. And do you think it. all goes back to you being a wrestling. fan? >> Yeah, I I I've always been the guy who. wants to, you know, get a nice SY out. there. And I think Yeah, I think. wrestling has a big a big part to do it.

with a lot of it, actually. Honestly. >> Yes, I agree. As somebody who was a. diehard wrestling fan growing up, I. think you can tell people that are. wrestling fans or not, and I think when. you're out there, you understand it's a. show. Yep. >> That's why you do the no look passes. Haha. That type of [ __ ] I appreciate. it. I respect the hell out of it. Have. you always been that way though? Flashy. guy. >> for sure. My whole life. >> Yeah, >> at all times. >> Always a good shooter. >> Uh got better around like middle school. Started to shoot the ball better. Yeah. >> Well, obviously middle school is always. Yeah. In third grade, this kid couldn't. shoot. So that's what they used to say.

Fourth grade, this guy sucked at. shooting. Wisconsin wouldn't even offer. the guy. >> What? >> True story. No offer. >> Neither did uh who else? Who was the. guy? Cal. >> Cal. Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Kentucky. >> Yeah, I remember that moment. >> Yeah. >> Well, Cal went on and had a great. career. Got coached at the right place. Went to the right guy. That's uh the. whole thing is what Cal said in that. that your shooting form is interesting. though. >> Yeah. >> Right. You would say? >> Yeah. I I. >> But allegedly the story is they told you. not they told people not to change your. shooting form. Is that cuz you've been. like a prolific shooter your entire like.

high school you were known as prolific. shooter. Yeah. College known as prolific. shooter. Now you have the men's. three-point shooting contest record for. one round. Has it always been that way? Prolific shooting. >> Yeah. I feel like I've been able to. shoot the ball for at a high level for a. long time. And if I wasn't able to, then. I feel like somebody would have been. able to change it. But I feel like most. of the time when people try to change my. form when it's happened in the past, then we do a couple workouts. Then I. think they see that I can shoot the ball. well. And your free throw run, what did. you have post all-star break? You missed.

like two free throws or something. Yeah. >> What was the. >> That's true. >> No, I think you told us. >> it was that and then like in clutch time. you were I think 12 of 13 or 11 and 12. from the field as well. >> And then when we played 33 in here, Foxy. and I watched you hit 20 straight threes. whenever we were about to beat you. It's. like. >> we did almost lose. >> Yeah. And that would have been tough. That would have been tough for you. >> That would have been tough. That would. have been I was I had a rough start to. the season. What can I say? >> Okay. So, have you thought back about. that at all? No, >> not really. >> Spaceships don't come equipped with. rearview mirrors. They dip. Is that what.

you're saying? >> We don't need to think about the first. half of the season. >> I think uh if there was any time to. reflect on it, it would probably be, you. know, in this time, but I haven't really. thought too much on it to be honest. >> Yeah, cuz the way it ended, what have. you done for me lately? Uh ball. >> Yeah. Went to the finals. >> That's what we did. >> So, it was fun to watch your team, man. It's been cool to get to know you. Thank. you for inviting me to come to the WNBA. uh Allstar uh superstar contest. >> Skill skills challenge. >> There it is. How was that only an hour. and 10 minutes? >> It was such a short event. >> Such a Could we not add We thought about.

this yesterday. We started doing some. brains. >> What do you want to add? >> Knockout. >> No. >> $500,000 prize. >> Threeman weave. >> No. I actually think 33 would be pretty. far. >> 33 would be a great game, but it takes a. little bit, you know, cuz there's teams. at two. But like you don't think half. court knockout with a $250,000 worth. >> Yeah. >> Have you ever played half court knockout. on a real basketball? I mean, you have a. great You have a great setup here. half. court. >> Yeah, you gotta get the ball. >> The ball is gonna go everywhere and. people have to chase. Get rebounders. >> We're playing a sport.

>> You said rebounders and knockout. >> I mean, look, I'm trying to help the. problems that you're bringing up. >> Yeah, we're getting answers. You're a. problem guy. We're an answer guy. >> I don't think I don't think it's a. problem. There was only one problem. present at the WNBA and that they wore. the t they wore the t-shirts about it. >> That's an interesting thing. That's a. big time negotiation. Big time. statement. If they're able to, you know, remain close, hopefully they're all able. to get a pay raise. >> Yeah, for sure. I I said yesterday, "Fuck, you're already losing 40 million. We're not losing. >> Where are we getting that number from?". >> Yeah. Where's the money going? But I.

feel like that 40 million thing is being. brought up, but probably not real. >> Is there not some [ __ ] in that 40. million we can cut out? >> And then give at least a $50,000 bonus. to the pay the pay. Like, you know, >> if you're already losing 40 million, what's. >> I feel like that number is brought out. of thin air, though. I've never seen a. >> spreadsheet. >> Where's the balance sheet? I'll hit. Google right now. >> Oh, >> and and there's a new TV deal starting. next year. So, >> yeah. >> And they're bringing So, you're think. you're telling me. >> the hour's wrapping up.

>> Oh, sorry. Go ahead. >> You're the man. Good to see you. Stay. safe. Godspeed. We all love you. We'll. see you on the other side. Goodbye. >> Hi, how's it going? My name is Pat. McAfee. Used to hold balls for Adam. Venitary. Now I'm in his home state. College game day. is absolutely electric. and Brookings. South Carolina. Let's go. College Game Day has made the. voyage to Brooking, South Dakota to. experience a game with the best fans in. college football.

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Hello beautiful people and welcome back. to our humble abode the Thunderdome on. this glorious training camp Tuesday July. 22nd 2025 our truth program begins now. >> are happening all around us. It has been. a great morning and early afternoon here. at the Thunderdome guest in abundance. It's been awesome to see everybody. Wasn't able to take a pee during break. We'll be excited to see how this hour. kind of holds up for my bladder. But it. was awesome chitchatting with Tyrese.

Hallebertton. I think it's first time he. has spoke since the injury and uh we. love him, man. He's great for this city. He's great at basketball. He's got a. long road and I think he understands. that. And his dad is electrifying and I. know they try to ban him from games. because of what he did and he's. obviously very apologetic about that. becoming a a massive ordeal and. obviously being something that stole the. attention away from how great the. Indiana Pacers team was. the the NBA may. need to think about leaning in on that. >> Yeah. >> Instead of banning him, maybe we mike. him up every game, >> you know,

>> hey, you want to pay your dues this guy, you know, you did the crime, now you got. to do the time. >> You're miked up every single game down. here. And actually, >> we would like you to maybe get a rebound. or two if you could. >> Why sit next to the Jokic brothers? >> And maybe in between them. >> Boom. >> Could you imagine, John, in between. those two what he'd be saying? >> You're big. Not that big. That's a good haircut. What's wrong with these guys, man? He is. electric. And I think you can't say any. of the things you say about him without.

acknowledging he loves his boy. >> He loves his family. And uh we're. appreciative they stopped by. The talks. and tables here at Boss Connor at Ty. Schmidt. Come on, man. Sweet shirt. >> Thank you. Yeah, I just grabbed it cuz I. was super late to work today. Uh right. off right off the uh. >> Yeah. What did happen with that? >> Uh you know, just just being dumb. >> It's the haptics and sounds on your. alarm, >> bro. They'll turn down. >> That gets me. Yeah. >> Why does it do that? >> I've never been in there before. And. then all of a sudden my alarm is very. low. And what ends up waking me up. whenever that happens is a the rattle of.

it. And then it freaks me out obviously. And I look at it. It's like your alarm's. going off. And I'm like, >> I can't hear that. What happened to. this? And then you learn of this haptics. and sounds tab. >> Terrible. >> Who changed that? I didn't. Hey Tim. Apple, we need to figure that one out. because the alarm's pretty important. part of the phone. Very important. That. is that is a pretty important day. >> for all of us. >> Yeah. >> For a lot of us that have them. It is a. very important part. Can't just have the. sound of the alarm going down without us. even. So it's happening to everybody. >> Yes. I know. I turn you know you you.

turn it all down. You know on the show. when even with the phones on silent just. you know you may scroll and hit a video. on accident the sound pops up. So I turn. it down but I try to remind myself to. turn it back up before going to sleep. because of. >> No, that shouldn't affect the alarm. It. shouldn't. >> That should I think it says this does. not affect the alarm. >> It does. What what I've had to do cuz I. used to like legit check it 10 times. before I actually fall asleep cuz I'm. like I'm not dealing with this [ __ ]. Uh do not disturb and then I turn the. actual ringer on. So you like your phone. is on loud but you don't get any like.

messages or anything. >> But it says this will not affect your. alarm. >> I think they're lying to you. >> I think so too. I I've had to set fake. alarm like 2 minutes from now. >> Yep. Trying like see if this thing is. going What is this going to sound like? Is it set up? That's a nightmare. >> It is. I'll tell you what, sleeping. through an alarm or not setting an alarm. >> and then when you wake up and. >> and knowing. >> it's Yeah. >> I knew right away cuz I saw the light. coming through my window. >> No different. >> No, not again. >> Well, then winter it gets tough cuz it's. just pitch black.

>> all the time. So, you could wake up at. 3:00 a.m. and you could wake up at 8:00. a.m. and it's the same light outside. Yep. Whenever we're in the thick of it, >> but whenever you're in the spring. summertime and it's a little brighter. than it was yesterday, oh no, what. happened? And then your phone Uh, it's. like that's not what my alarm's supposed. to be. You're supposed to make a sound. You're supposed to make a sound. Why. aren't you making a sound? I used to be. able to put songs in there, too. >> Yeah, those those definitely do not play. anymore. >> at all. >> Yeah. >> I had um Nakamoras.

>> Yeah, you did. >> Shinsuki. Yeah. >> Oh, that's cool. >> I had the Succession theme song. >> That was literally my alarm. So whenever. when years. >> it used to be I got a pocket got a. pocket full of sunshine. [Music]. >> then somebody told me it was about. cocaine then whenever I was using my. alarm in a public setting everybody was. like. >> we get it dude I'm like okay I need to. move on I move to Shinsuke Nakamura's. theme song so then I get on commentary.

Shinsuke's on Smackdown it's like I love. this song this is this song has woke me. up every single day had a good time with. it and then all of a sudden uh it just. stops And now I got some basic [ __ ]. I'm like, I don't want that. >> Am I at war? >> Yeah. Wake up in fear. >> I want Shinsuke Nakamura. >> I need the tribal chiefs. to wake me up. >> Exactly. >> He was back. >> He's back. TC1's back. Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yo. >> Yeah. Shredd it.

>> When we need him, too. >> Mhm. >> Big time. >> Big time. Thanks for coming back. >> Needed it. >> SummerSlam's next weekend. >> Next. Two weekends. >> I got a good car. >> Holy [ __ ]. >> It is stacking up well, is it? Two. nights spectacle over there. Met life. >> It's always good to see Roman back. >> Great. >> How about Paul Heymon squirming a little. bit. >> I thought he was still on the team. >> What? >> He's not. >> No, he's not on the team. >> He thought he was still on. He was, you. know. >> Oh, yeah. He was trying to, wasn't he? >> That's classic wise, man. >> That is not bad effort if you're him to.

be clear. He also looks like better. shape. >> Yeah, >> I don't know if everybody now granted. Roman did say, "What is this guy going. to do for me?" Nothing. kind of looking. at him a little bit which probably a. valid point in the entirety of it all. I. think he looks good though. Cole looks a. little better. >> Was Mike Cole battling something? >> I don't know how he does it. Michael. Cole now he doesn't have a daily show. >> Think. Yeah. >> But he has lived on the road for 28. years basically just full cell every. single time. >> Does a video game too. >> Yeah. Oh yeah. When you're home need to.

go in a closet in a corner. >> Yep. do it to nobody. >> and you need to talk to nobody and you. need to talk about wrestlers that might. not even exist. >> They might be coming around the corn. >> or you need to talk about Tai and Boston. top rope. Yeah. >> Yeah. Michael Cole is an absolute. weapon. It's great to hear his voice. every Monday. We miss him. I I will say. we miss the Michael Cole. He's a man. >> around. But it's been nice for me to. become a human again. I will say. >> and it's kind of coming up again here. I. mean, we've been talking about the NFL. like with the Jets coming back. You're. going to hear a lot about Michael Cole. or from Michael Cole rather.

>> Yeah. But this could be the year for the. Jets, you know? Nobody's really. expecting anything from they just got a. brand new locker room. >> Yeah, >> let's go to one half of the hammer. Cowboys AP tone. Everybody's talking. about the Pittsburgh Steelers going for. a Super Bowl. Jets paid a quarterback. Jets paid a bunch of guys. Jets got a. brand new locker room. Jets have been. teetering on the edge of becoming a. franchise that has not been successful. at all in the modern century. And then. now we're at a point where why not. redesign the locker room, add some glitz. and some glam to the entirety of it all. Pay your quarterback. bring Aaron Glenn.

in here. Aaron Glenn obviously going to. be a massive missing piece from the. Detroit Lions. Even though we got faith. and new defense coordinator Kevin. Shepard, it's like why not the Jets? Is. this the Jets year? New locker room, Tone. >> I mean, it could be. You know, they they. have a defense and they have stars with. with Sauce and. >> sick locker room. >> and Williams over there. And then, you. know, they have Garrett Wilson and and. Justin Fields and Bree Hall on the. offense. Their O line should be. improved. You know, why, >> you know, why not the Jets year? You. know, why not the Browns year? Why not? You know, anybody's year because, you.

know, some franchises just don't win, Pat. In week one, when the Steelers roll. into town and win by 25, oh my god, is. that going to be glorious cuz Dano's. going to have to eat all of his [ __ ]. words. >> Well, that was before Aaron Rogers was. on team is what Olovski was saying. Remember, he'll always have a. we don't forget. >> Wait a minute. He'll catch the bullet. >> Was it the same sit was it the same. situation as it is? I don't think so. That's what Dan will say. >> Oh, yeah. >> I think Dan I think Dan would throw this. as well, >> I think. Yeah. Is that what you think?

>> Why would you say I didn't say it? Just. like when the Brock party and [ __ ]. >> I never said that. >> I never said that. >> Not true. >> You're going to have to run the tape. >> Well, here it is right here. >> Yeah, but what I was saying was No. Yeah. We're in that time of year. >> Yeah. Mhm. >> I'm looking for the Dan. >> I know the Dan wagon's coming. >> Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, is. a college football national champion, a. Super Bowl champion, a Ryder Cup winner. Ladies and gentlemen, man with 10 kids. Congrats to him, AJ Hawk. Dannerki was saying, "Whoa, whoa, whoa,

whoa, whoa, whoa. What are you?". >> Hey, first off, why why can't we let. John Howbertton shoot threes or. something? Why are we making this guy. putt? >> He was putting. >> He was putting before the show and. making putts. >> He You John made putts before the show. Really? >> Oh, you better watch him now. Hey, John. heard that and said that. >> I bet he could I bet he could 360 dunk. He could probably dunk from the free. throw line. He's in good shape. Like, why don't we let him shoot a few. buckets? Well, because he was bearing if. you would have heard the ruckus is the. only way to describe it before the show. started. We're in there. There's just a.

Yeah, that's what I thought happening. out here. Okay. And I look out, John. Halbertton's got big butter in his hand. I'm like, "You making putts?" He goes, "Yeah." And they're saying, "I'm not.". And he's pointing at the cameraman, everybody else. He's just stirring [ __ ]. literally on the thing. I think he made. three. Yeah. I think he did roll three. in. I was like, "Well, you you want to. do that for like a giveaway?" He goes, "I I'll do whatever." I'm like, "Do you. want to putt to maybe win some people. some money?" I said, "If you miss, it's. not a big deal. A lot of people miss.". He goes, "I ain't missing.". >> I was like, "Okay.".

>> Okay. >> I love this man. I love John. Hallebertton. >> the best. >> He literally ordered a bucket of mashed. potatoes. I got chicken parm for. instance. I got chicken parm. Tyrese got. maybe some. >> I saw your chicken parm. >> Some steak. A lot of sauce. Don't love. that. It was drenched. >> It was drenched in sauce. So, I just ate. the chicken and moved on. But it was. great tasting chicken. Gumpy ordered who. probably some steak of some sort filt. that was like $80. >> Smooth cream. >> Every I don't think they had smooth. cremu, but this would be a place that.

has all the options. Anything you could. potentially want. Highlight. We're in a. back room. Chef basically walks in goes. anything on earth that you guys want. made, I'll make them. Go around the. room. Sounds good. Boom. Get Howalurn. mashed potatoes. Okay. What do you want. for your meal? I just told you heard. >> just a mashed potato. >> Big spoon. Big spoon. That was like the. the family style sides they give you, but he's like, "Nah, right here. It's. all me. >> What do you want on the side, sir?". >> I guess a side of mashed potatoes, but. you could put that. >> I know butter does make.

>> this thing show. It was a bucket of. mash. He's the greatest. He's the. greatest. And Tyrese good mindset. towards this thing. Great mindset. >> Not going to be easy at all. He. understands that it's not going to be. easy. I think he I don't know if he was. alluding to it or said it or the reason. why I framed the question that way. because of conversations I have with in. the past. The people that have been. through it are telling him the truth. like hey this is going to suck like. there's moments that are not good of. this whole thing and that gets forgotten. in rehab. Everybody just gets a. projection a timeline. Hey should be. back by this time and everybody's like.

all right we'll see you then. For the. human that's doing it you know like that. is eternity pretty much while they're. sitting by themselves. It's a lot of. mental tasking [ __ ] physically tasking. stuff. It's full commitment to. everything that you're doing. It's. purpose to everything. It's not easy. Rehab is not easy at all. And uh. Achilles is one of the longest ones. obviously. >> Yeah. One of the uh worst ones, worst. injury. And like you said, right now. when nobody's in the building, nobody's. really playing, you know, you don't miss. it as much. But once and we all know. when you are especi when you're an.

athlete and you're walking around or you. know scooting around or whatever it may. be and you see all your peers you know. doing just a normal just a shoot around. or just you know regular workout like. that's when it really really sucks the. most getting up in those mornings him. talk you know having those different. deadlines. Uh but a a good part of it. though is you know he knows he's not. going to play next year. So it's not. like a hey you know 6 months out let me. try to get back by game you know 24 you. don't have you know you can take your. time you can really let it heal you. really have time to come back hopefully.

better and have have a great great. career on the other side of this like. you know Kevin Durant who he's been. talking to and spending some time with. >> we're pulling for him uh he's a great. dude let's talk a little bit about the. NFL Jerry Jones said some hilarious. things uh to start training camp here's. one of them live from uh Oxnard. >> the other thing I would say is contracts. are four or five years. >> Okay. >> Okay. Uh there's a lot of water under. the bridge if you step out there and do. something in the first two or three.

>> Okay. >> You can get hit by a car. >> [ __ ]. >> Seriously. >> Seriously. >> And so there's a lot to look at over a. lot of years that could make a big. difference. Have you ever heard of any. clubs committing to players and then. they didn't pan out after they committed. to them? >> No. >> We have. >> Yeah. me, my pocketbook, not yours and. [ __ ] get hit by a car tomorrow. So why. would we pay him? Hell, why are we even. Why are we paying anybody?

>> Why are we even playing the game? >> Why are we even What's this? Does this. even. >> What are we doing? >> Almost a Scotty Sheffer situation. >> Truly about what matters, what doesn't. matter. And it's like Jerry, Jerry, Jerry, you're kind of taking a shot at. Micah now not being able to handle. himself or you think that he's not going. to be able to last for an entire. contract. And then obviously there's a. Shamar Stewart stuff happening in. Cincinnati where Mr. Brown who I didn't. know was still around talking football, doing football like like you did.

>> He gets you. >> I don't want to pay guy. He's sitting in. jail. >> I mean, >> easy as that. >> I understand. >> It's happened. I don't want to do it. You want to do that? No, none of us do. And then the easy question is, well, why'd you draft a guy you think is going. to potentially end up in jail in the. first round? And there's always a. counterargument. It's crazy that this is. how it's starting, I think, for these. two ownerships and these two teams. But. football is back, baby. That's what I'm. thinking. AJ, >> football's back. Owners are speaking. It's awesome. Like the the Jerry. situation. I love seeing him in the. pressers with his It's almost like when.

Tyrese is trying to push his dad off the. mic. All right, John. All right, John, get in the back. Yeah. Like it's almost. like Jerry and his son when you we watch. him up there. But I don't know. Like. does does Shamar Stewart get signed and. when does he obviously he's going to. have to get signed eventually. When does. that happen? >> Well, you add in the Trey Hendrickson. He he's had he's he's going fishing. down. >> He's in Florida Ohio at all. Joining us. now is a man who might have more. information on all of it. We assume he. does. Emmy award-winning television. host. Now he's with ESPN. He's an. analyst, a pundit, and an insider. Front.

of the program deserves an award for his. work alongside Tone during the Draft. Spectacular this year in Green Bay, Wisconsin. They won't give him an award. though because it was on our show. So we. will not pay the money to apply for an. award. Correct. >> That is not how we view awards. Ladies. and gentlemen, Peter Shrier. >> How you doing, brother? >> I'm doing awesome. Uh I died laughing at. the vat of mashed potatoes cuz that. might be me. I I the same deal. It's. like I'm ordering what I want. And you. can have the poutine. You can have the.

esargo. If I want a vat of mashed. potatoes and I'm at a five-star. restaurant, if you're offering me, I'm. going to eat the vat of mashed potatoes. Yeah, they better be good, too. He's. expecting those to be good mashed. potatoes. This is a nice restaurant. I. got down there, Applebee's down there. Get some good mashed potatoes. >> Oh, yeah. >> You guys better have a good vat around. here of these ters. >> Shs, let's talk about all the [ __ ]. Okay. >> Jerry Jones, awesome. Then JJ Watt's. like, "Bro, what are you doing?" First. day of training camp. Then Micah reposts.

JJ Watt saying, "Bro, what are you doing. in this entire thing?" Mike is on his. fifth year, so that is uh obviously you. get the option to pick up the fifth. year. Very rarely at important positions. do we see the player play through the. entire fifth year without getting a big. time deal, especially if the person is. considered a long-term pillar of said. franchise, which I think since draft. night, Micah has been considered because. he's been a Cowboy fan his whole life. Him and Jerry hit it off. Then Jerry. says these things, is there a chance. Jerry doesn't pay Micah? That seems like.

a one ina billion chance that he doesn't. pay him, but is that where we're headed? And what are your thoughts on how it's. all kind of unfolding? >> I think he's going to get paid. And I. think uh Jerry intends to to pay him, but Jerry Jones is as. he he wants to win the deal. And the art. of the deal and the business is almost. as entertaining to Jerry as the football. itself. So, he's not going to be bullied. around by an agent who he claimed he.

didn't know the name of earlier this off. season. He's not going to be bullied. around by a player who's very active on. a podcast and social media, and he's not. going to be bullied around by us in the. media. So, I think Jerry's having a. little fun here, and at the expense, it. might be the goodwill of a player who. has lived up to expectations, who has. done everything you can ask for and. wants to be the face of the Dallas. Cowboys. I I would think before the end. of the season, just like they did before. the start of the season, just like they. timed it perfectly with Dak in week one, we have news just as Jay Glazer's.

getting on set like or or hey CD Lamb. just as we're finishing training camp. like I think Jerry likes that splash and. Jerry likes to take it to the wire but. at what cost in my eyes I'm with JJ Watt. on this one where it's what is the win? What is the win in even tempting fate. and putting that stuff out in the ether. with a player like Micah Parsons? But. this is how Jerry does business. The. guys do get paid and sometimes he's got. to pay a premium for it because he does. it at the last second instead of doing. it earlier in the process. But in his.

eyes, I made you wait and I got the full. value of my contract that you signed. with me. >> Yeah. I um I hope they get the deal done. and just like with CD and just like Dak, there's always some conjecture and then. inevitably they end up paying him so. much money and you talk about winning. the deal and the art of the deal which. is a book written by somebody uh. >> Su. >> who was it a guy? I don't know. He. doesn't like the commander's uh name. I. know that. But. >> the whatevers. Yeah, you're right. That.

that's uh Yeah, the art of the deal is a. big thing. And Jerry's a good. businessman. I think he's a good. businessman. But I think the way he's. handled like this type of [ __ ] I think. is a flaw. Personally, it just in his. repertoire because he's going to end up. overpaying for it and then he's going to. give his quote once again, he's going to. say, "Anything that's ever been worth. anything to me, people have told me I've. overpaid for whatever." And it's like, I. can't wait for that moment. I don't know. when it's going to happen, but congrats. to Mike on his big deal that he has. certainly earned. Uh, we would assume in. everybody's eyes in Dallas and around. the country. Go ahead, AJ.

>> Yeah, Shregs. Uh, flipping to to. Cincinnati right now. We talked about. Mike Brown. was speaking yesterday. First off, Trey Henderson, he's he posts. a picture. He's back in Florida, I. guess. He left town. Uh, and Shamar. Stewart, like, who of these guys gets. signed first? I would assume Shamar gets. signed. When could that be? And also, like, what's the future for Trey. Hendrickson and Cincinnati? >> This is just brutal. It's brutal because. for the entire off season, I've been. saying on this show and on others, like. the priorities for Cincinnati were Jamar. Chase and T. Higgins. And when they got.

those deals done, they were like, "We. did it, right fans?" Like, "We did it. We finally did it. we broke the bank on. two star players and we are good to go. And then this Trey Hendrickson thing has. completely taken any of the goodwill. away from it. And then the Shamar. Stewart thing comes out of left field. when you start putting in clauses that. they've never done as a team before. And. that's taken down the team and it puts. you right back in the same conversation. you were in when Carson Palmer was. unhappy with his contracts and when. those early 2000s teams that were so. good had to be dismantled because the. team might have bungled the. relationships or AJ as you know when you.

were in that market for so long and you. know that like this is not viewed as the. same way as the New York Yankees or the. Dallas Cowboys or some of those premier. franchises. That said, Trey Hendrickson, they are not going to do what he wants. on his timetable and they have made that. clear and he has gone out of his way to. be very transparent coming on your show, which I thought he was very eloquent and. then meeting with local reporters in the. off season at the practice where he was. attending and then now an Instagram post.

that looks like a John Denver song. You. know, I'm out and he's it here's my son. >> Give me back to God's country. >> That's it. God's country. That's it. Morgan Whan right out of Saturday Night. Live. >> Morgan Wallen, please Jesus. And that's. why he's saying there as you represent. New York Jennings. >> Yeah. Doug, by the way. >> Did you see Did you see Spade come out. as Joe Durk? Pretty cool. >> Yeah. Pretty cool. Randy Dons the night. before. Pretty cool. Pretty cool. Pretty. cool. Yeah. So stadiums everywhere. Yeah. The entirety. Uh Trey Hendrickson.

though. >> Trey Hendrickson though he's. >> he's not happy. I mean he's not happy. >> Are they offering him garbage? Shrekes. We're hearing report. Are they offering. it just garbage or what is it? >> They're not offering him Miles Garrett. money and they're not offering them TJ. Watt money and they see it as fulfill. your contract. We just, you know, like. sorry, like let's fulfill the contract. and let's get to work. So, they're. digging their heels in. You heard Mike. Brown. I think uh you know, Katie. Blackburn Blackburn, his daughter.

Elizabeth, like these these are this is. a family that. >> wants the Bengals. It's their family. business. They want the Bengals to be as. good as they possibly can be, but. they're not looking to necessarily pay. him the same non as the other top. players at the position have. And Trey, I I I don't know where the rubber hits. the road here, but truth of the matter. is his age and the production has been. there. They're looking at what the. future is of this team and he might be. looking at what I've accomplished and I. think I'm owed this. You can go either. way on it. the player side, of course.

you say pay him. From the team budgetary. side, they looked at this entire. offseason and said Higgins and Chase are. our top two priorities. Trey Hendrickson. is not because he's under contract. So, I'm not sure how this plays out, but. let's see what his will is and let's see. if he's convicted enough to just say, you know what, screw it. I'm not going. to show up. I'll eat the fines. Let's. see how you do without my 18 and a half. sacks a year. >> And Trey has said uh that the last two. off seasons they've told him, we'll take. care of you. We'll take care of you. We'll take care of you. And then it. comes time to get taken care of. And now. Mr. Brown's saying we gave him a raise.

I mean, he's he's he's we've given him a. raise. >> And he said he's still under contract, so maybe silly me for even giving him a. raise or whatever. And it was like, oh. my god, he's nowhere near they're. nowhere like they are in very different. headspaces if you listen to Mr. Brown. and you listen to Trey Hendrickson talk. about it at all. And it's like Trey, we. have said too nice of a guy maybe for. this situation. Him heading to Florida. >> No, that was it. That's a big stand by. Trey Hendrickson. We didn't think he. would do this. >> He kind of said it from the get-go. Hey,

you guys rip on me 16 or 17 more times, I'm out of here. And he's finally. reached his breaking point. >> All right. See, that's what you were. saying. >> Yeah. And he didn't like that you were. saying that, but I think he was trying. to maintain doing it the right way in. his eyes while doing it in a manner that. he didn't want to do it, which is being. loud. Like the squeaky wheel gets you. oil, you know, that's kind of how it is. But he didn't. >> Can I add though, like when you look at. this thing in this team, their their. offense wasn't the problem. It never is. It's their defense. It's horrendous. And. they fire Lou, who I think is an.

excellent defensive coordinator and is. going to be a great addition to another. team that happens to be in your. backyard. I think he's the absolute man. They fire Lou and they hire Al Golden, who everyone's like, "This is great.". But when you have Trey Hendrickson and. then you draft a defensive end at 17th. overall, those are pretty much your top. two defensive players going into the. season as far as what you have and what. you hope for. If you have a guy in the. top 20 you're taking at that position. And to not have either as camp starts is. a major L. I don't care how you look at.

it, who wins this thing, to not have. either one of those guys on the first. day of training camp is a huge, huge L. for the team. No matter who's right or. wrong and what clause is written where, I don't care about any of that stuff. You had the worst defense in the. division. You got lit up in every big. game. Joe Burrow and that offense took. care of business. I would think that. this has looked as a great. disappointment to not have those two. players on the field. >> Shrek, as you've always said, can't. spell Bengals without L's. >> That's right. >> Can't do it. That's what you've been. saying. Not me. I'm just saying you've. >> can't spell Morgan Whan without an L.

either. I'm sorry about that. >> Well, two of them actually. And it's. Wallen. Jesus Christ. Once again. All. right. Okay. All right. That guy will. come to your city and sell out your. stadium for. >> I like that guy like that McCrae. >> That's what I want. That's what I want. >> When he comes in on that second verse, I'm like, "Oo, >> Drake's in the country music a little. bit.". >> I listen to the highway on Sirius. I. love it. There's like six songs they. play. That's all I know.

>> Oh, little city cowboy up there. Okay, we like that, Shriggs. Uh, we love that. Uh, go ahead. by dirt. Is that what you said? >> Like a song from like 10 years ago. Yeah, I just referenced it. No, >> that's a great song. >> Yeah, it's a great song. And all these. good songs you're referencing the. messaging and storyline through it all. is that keeps beautiful. >> Now, there's old school country and. there's contemporary uh country there. because you. >> I don't I don't know [ __ ] about Brooks. and Dunn. Like, I don't know anything. about Alan Jackson. Love.

>> I love my modern country. I'm in on it. I love it. >> Okay. So, as somebody who's from New. York City getting into the country. world, you should learn a couple things. about like George Strait, you know, and. a couple other OG country folks so that. when Yeah, Dolly is a great one. So, whenever you get into a conversation, Beyonce, obviously, Grammy award-winning. country musician, which is potentially. created an entire another genre of uh. Shabuzzi certainly good conversation to. be had. Darius Rucker also absolute dog. around there. But you should just learn. a couple things about the old school.

country so that whenever you get into. the country real inevitably, which is. pretty seemingly pretty hospital. >> I think it's pretty much music right. now. Like that's it's it's either. country or hip-hop like. >> Yeah, it it's it's summer every single. time. But you learn some stuff about. George Straight. You'll be right in. there, bro. You'll be you'll be right in. there. And uh the country community is. an awesome one as a chance to because. they all watch Game Day. So all these. country musicians watch game day and. they all not all of them I guess but. every guy that I've met big sports like. love sports love the sports and.

>> Jack Bryan just sold out the Metife. Stadium which is all New Yorkers in. Connecticut and New Jersey sold it out. three different nights and everyone who. went said it was absolutely unbelievable. and Springsteen showed up so you don't. have to sell it to me like I get it now. the 80s and 90s I wish I had more of a. knowledge I did not grow up with it. then. >> Did Springsteen got any promos out. there? He was pissing people. >> That was awesome. Uh, anyways, to the. country music world, we appreciate you. being awesome for us. I'm new to the. world. I was not a big country fan. growing up. And then you get a chance to.

meet these dudes and ladies and then you. get the songwriting process. You get to. experience that like I did. Then history. down Nashville Music Row, the Rhyman. Theater auditorium. I mean, there is. like it's a cool thing to learn about. >> They do the they do the CAS. I think. that's on ABC or one of them's on ABC. You should be involved with that. No, Payton Manning's hosting that one, brother. Yeah. And he he's got the. accent, actually. Yeah. He's in it. already. Him and Luke Bryan got that. thing unlocked. But the country music. world, >> I think you could say that their award. shows are the most star-studded. Like,

they all buy in. >> They all show. >> They all They all buy in. Like, their. [ __ ] is always great. It's a great. community. I think there are a lot of. really talented and good people. Now, let's get back to a little NFL chatter, shall we? There's some other outstanding. contract situations that are taking. place around the NFL with superstars, not just Trey Hendrickson. Go ahead, Debb. >> Yeah, I know. Uh GM Adam Peters head. coach Dan Quinn uh just recently spoke. Didn't get a chance to watch that yet. since we've been on air, but we know. Terry McLaren, he's been pissed off. about his deal. Not sure if he's going. to show up or not. Any update there? What's going on with Terry and the.

Commanders? >> Yeah, Adam had his press conference this. morning and was very topline. We want. Terry in camp. We appreciate Terry. These conversations are ongoing. But. let's really peel the onion back here. This has been the first piece of. adversity in Adam Peters, Dan Quinn, and. Josh Harris's entire tenure when it. comes to the football team on the field. where there's actually an unhappy player. with his contract. And this one's tough. because McLaren is the bridge from the. dark days of what this organization was. before these guys took over and before.

Jaden Daniels got there. And he was. Jaden's number one guy and has done. everything you could possibly ask for. from a veteran wide receiver. In fact, he wore the C as a wide receiver, which. is pretty rare as the captain of the. team and is beloved and Cliff loves him. and and DQ loves him. All those guys. love him. He's got a year left on his. contract. He's looking at the numbers. and saying, "Wait a second. I am not. being paid what I'm deserved." That. said, in a similar way as Trey. Hendrickson, you look at the age, you. look at the budget, you look at where. we're going, they didn't account for an.

unhappy Terry McLaren and a potential. hold out from Terry McLaren. They went. and they got Debo Samuel for a year. They got Laramie Tonsel. They went all. in on those veterans thinking, "Okay, last year we put this together with a. bunch of veteran pieces and we got lucky. with a couple rookies and it worked out. It was great. Now we're going to ascend. and we're going to go for it." Well, you. can't go for it without Terry McLaren on. the field. From Terry's side, he has. done everything right. He thinks he's. paid well below, you know, market rate. for what he's produced. And yet, if you. were to list the top 10 wide receivers.

in the I know ESPN did on a Jeremy. Fowler poll, like I don't know where you. put Terry McLaren. He's certainly not in. that Jamar Chase, Malik Neighbors, Justin Jefferson, like those top top. like guys who are ascending. >> neighbors. >> Neighbors. I don't know. >> I put neighbors in New York bias. >> Yeah, that's a Yeah, it sounds like you. just watch a lot of New York Giants. highlights, which I respect. I think. neighbors might be. >> Garrett Wilson just got his number. Do. you pay him what Garrett Wilson got. more? >> I think where you pay him more. Okay.

>> Terry, we are a show that thinks Terry. is. >> I get it. >> The guy effort. >> is leader. >> Everything he does like we are a Terry. You want Terry in your locker room. We. think like not that all these other guys. you don't, but I'm just saying for who. Terry is and what Terry is. And also the. culture you're trying to establish him. being everything that it is and he. catches in traffic. He runs the hard. routes. He's not scared to do anything. It's like Terry McLaren is a guy you. want on your team. Like that is we think. very highly. >> and you want happy on your team. Like. you look at other teams like Philly for.

instance, like when you pay guys like. Jordan early, you pay Saquon when you. don't need to. You play Jaylen Herz. early like that does something for the. morale of the team. When you have a. rookie quarterback Jaden Daniels who. going to be on a rookie deal for at. least another couple years, you bring in. Tonsel, you bring in Debo, this is a guy. you want to come in there, be happy. about his deal, and get paid. Yeah, Garrett earned it. All these guys earned. it. But Terry. >> doesn't think Terry top 10. >> Top 10 is wow. I got Terry top 10. >> Oh, I'm asking if you put him there. >> Hey, listen. I didn't put any numbers on.

this. I'm just saying, hey, are we doing. That's what you just said. Put a career. year. >> That's the debate, though. That's the. debate. Do you pay him based on what. he's been in the culture and say, "Hey, you know what? We know we just gave you, you know, a giant contract two years. ago, but let's redo it and give you even. more because of it." Or do you say, "Hey, finish the contract and let's see. where we're at at the end of this. thing." And all I'm saying is it might. get done tomorrow. What I'm saying is. Adam Peters and Dan Quinn and Lance. Newark and all those brilliant guys in. DC who have done everything right since. the day they got there. This is their.

first fork in the road moment. And it. just happens to be with the model. citizen and the face of the franchise. going back not only since they got there. but years ago when this was a team that. was in the dregs of society and in the. NFL. Mcccluren McLaren was the shining. light and was like don't worry you could. put me on any anything. you put me out. there in public and I will represent. this franchise in the right way when. maybe previous ownership didn't and. maybe some previous players on the team. did not. So, do you reward him for all. that or do you say finish out the.

contract and we'll revisit this when we. know what our budget is for next year? >> Is he Is it This is track I assume. No. What is this? >> This is overthecap.com. >> Overthecap.com. >> What do they say? I can't read. I got. the small eyes. What's it say? >> Yeah. Over the cap. So, he's down at 23. million per year. He's going into his. last year. So, obviously his contract. was signed uh four years ago, probably. five years ago. Jamar J making 40 a. year. He's making 232. I assume he wants. to get into the 30s. >> Probably mid30s, I would assume. >> And I would like to let I would like to. let the Washington uh commanders know.

Um currently their name, whatever. that if you guys don't want to pay it, we would here in India. We would love. him back here in Indianapolis. And uh I. think there's a lot of other players and. you talk about this being their first. thing they've had to figure out. There. was a strongly worded truth social post. that they're going to have to uh they're. going to have to figure out as well as. they piece that stadium together, but. I'm excited to watch them do it. Good. ownership group can lead through a lot. of things. You know, that is real. I. think having great guidance at the top.

of a team matters and this one of those. situations they're going to have to. figure out, navigate. That stadium thing. is going to have to be something they're. going to have to navigate. That's real. The naming of the team is going to have. to be something they navigate. It's like. this is, hey, here we go now. You had. success. Now you're in it. >> Josh Harris bought this team and he. bought them at a premium and everyone. was celebrating for the last 18 months. This has been a it has been a world. class parade all the way to the NFC. Championship game. This off season they. made two big moves in getting Debo and. Tonsel and there is real Super Bowl talk.

between this stuff with the president. and now this McLaren stuff on the field. There's actual decisions to be made and. there might be some actual strife. involved. It's not going to always be. parades and roses and rainbows in the. NFL. And for the first time in this new. tenure, Washington is facing some of. this. And I saw, you know, the press. secretary today came out or yesterday. and she's like, "The president is not. kidding on this." And then the mayor. came out today and she's like, "Well, we're at the one yard line and from what. I gather, we're almost there. It's going.

to get you. You want to predict how. that's going to go?" I'm not. >> The president say, "You ever watch. Cardinals versus Steelers Pittsburgh uh. in the Super Bowl?" You know what James. Harrison did? That's at the one yard. line. >> I'll take that [ __ ] ball all the way. down the other side. I will take this. thing the other way like James Harrison. did. That is wild that that is happening. because they need a new stadium bad. >> I mean. >> and they want a new stadium. Every it. was I mean it was the best news they. could possibly ask for. I think we all. celebrated that they were getting a new. stadium strictly because the lawsuit.

that was inevitable whether it was the. feces in the cups in the head or it was. the actual barricades falling for a. super MVP. >> Yeah, it's legit. On that note, Ty has a. question for you. >> Yeah, Shriggs. A lot of debate kind of. came up this week and early last week. about Jaylen Herz and how you know I. mean he he really them winning the Super. Bowl had nothing to do with him. It was. the great defense. It was Saquon. it was. his receivers, even Sirriiani. People. are kind of coming back around and.

saying like, "Hey, without Sirriani, this guy's nothing." Why do you think. that has become the narrative with. Jaylen Herz after he won a Super Bowl? And do you think people are ever going. to kind of give him his flowers as one. of the best quarterbacks in the NFL? Or. do you think we're just going to. continually have this conversation over. and over again given how good the Eagles. uh roster is? I have like a meta take on. this and it's kind of like a sports. media story more than a Jaylen Herz. story. That list came out. He was put at.

number nine. Um I was hosting Get Up. last week because. >> great work. You did a great job. >> Yep. >> Thanks, bro. I loved it. It was fun. Um. >> did. >> my big thing was like if you want if you. have a qual with, you know, Jaden. Daniels who's only one year in being. above Jayen Herz, I get it. And if you. think he's better than Justin Herbert, totally. I'll give you that. But but by. and large like you're not putting Jaylen. Herz in the same conversation as maybe. Lamar or Burrow or or Mahomes or Allen. and whatever. Then everyone got super.

defensive. I just don't know who the. person hating on Jaylen Herz is. Is. there a person in the media who's like. Jaylen Herz sucks? Is there a feeling in. the media that Jaylen Herz? I feel like. this is what we call a straw man and it. is what the Eagles use for motivation. It's what Eagles fans use for. motivation. If you're so sure that. Jaylen Herz is being disrespected, show. me the article or the person who has. said a negative word about Jaylen Herz. since that Super Bowl performance where. by and large he outplayed Patrick. Mahomes, not for the first time, but for. the second time and did everything you.

could possibly ask. My theory on the. Eagles, and it goes with Sirani, who I. thought was great at the ESPs as well, and I saw you guys posted some photos. I. know you appreciate Nick's work. I'm a. huge Serriiani fan. They are the perfect. coach and quarterback for that team. So, if you want to play fantasy football and. say that, you know, he wouldn't do what. he does if he wasn't on the Eagles. Well, he's on the Eagles. It's the same. thing as like someone walking, you know, down like Beverly Hills and being like, I don't like that $20 million house. Well, guess what, buddy? You're never. getting a $20 million house. It doesn't.

matter. Like, this doesn't affect you. It doesn't impact you. The Eagles have. Jaylen Herz. He's paid top dollar. He is. fantastic. They are Super Bowl. champions. And they have Nick Serriani. who's paid top dollar. And there you can. hate all you want, but I don't have the. person who's just who's like denigrating. either one of them. I just think it's a. good argument to be making that he's. disrespected or dismissed. I thought. nine was about right. If you want to say. he should be seven or five, fine. But. he's not one, two, three, or four if. you're looking at it that way. That's my. take. >> Interesting takes. Obviously, I love you. stirring the pot as your hosting first.

take. You jumped right in there. >> Hell yeah. >> You I've been watching. I understand. what the game is. Let me put a list out. here. >> Super Bowl champ. Yeah, I get it. He dropped a dime in the. second half to basically cement that. game on the biggest stage and everything. like that. I get it. But you putting him. above Jody Burrow? >> I don't think so. >> You putting him above Josh Allen? You. put him above Lamar Jackson? You put him. above Patrick Mahomes? I think it's. tough to do strictly because we have so. much great young quarterback play. happening around the NFL right now. But.

Jaylen Herz being an absolute dog in. Philadelphia is awesome. >> And all the while, Pat, like we're doing. this and we're screaming on TV and the. tweets are going nuts and the whole. thing. Jaylen Herz is posing for photos. in Greece with Michael Jordan. I'm like, who's getting the last laugh here? Do. you think he's really hung up on this? Like, he's fine and they're fine. And. you've got Nick Serriani at the SBS. accepting awards, having a good time. By. the way, appreciated what you said on. Shane Gillis yesterday. If you don't. like it, you don't like it. He's a. comedian. He was funny as hell. >> And we're laughing. It's funny. It's. funny. You know, like that is.

>> you're jokes. >> He's not allowed to say that. >> a joke. We're not allowed to say a joke. anymore. Got it. I know that it was. happening there for a bit, but I think. we all kind of said, "We're not doing. that anymore." Right. Then we all kind. of move by. We all kind of realize that. life is much more, you know, >> short fun. >> Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. You don't have to. hate everything all the time. You're. allowed to be happy. >> Mhm. >> That's kind of DJ Khaled run right now. I don't know if you guys have been. following along. >> He's in the middle of making an album. He's been on 40.

>> You out on DJ Khaled? >> What's that? You out on DJ? >> Yeah. >> Really? >> Mhm. What was it? Some things, you know. Anyway, scratch golfer. >> He's he's been traveling to four or. five. All he's doing is on his album. Thor. I don't know if we're ever getting. one. I don't know if we're ever getting. I mean, he's been promoting making this. album for a long time. But his big move. is you're allowed to be happy. That's. what he's been saying. It's okay to be. happy. I think is like his message. It's. like that's good message there, DJ. It. is okay to be happy. You're also allowed.

to be pissed off, but doesn't mean that. the thing that pisses you off should. just not be allowed to exist anymore. But we love your passion. All right, let's move along to another topic that. we love. You just mentioned a man Josh. Allen there. Go ahead, Con man. >> Yeah, sure. Go. Let's head up to. Buffalo. They actually just announced. that they're going to be bringing back. their red helmets this season. I assume. everyone in Buffalo and all Bills fans. have been waiting for this for a long. time. Usually Josh Allen does come out. with this thing on with the sweet visor. during training camp. So that's sweet. Then there was a photo released of the. stadium and it makes their current.

stadium basically look like a Texas high. school stadium. still very nice, still. worth a lot of money, but not what their. new one will be. >> I would like to say that this per uh. picture is a perfect depiction of why. teams and cities are looking for a new. stadium, especially if they're outdated. It's like, hey, this is literally what's. possible nowadays with what we had back. in the day. This is like a perfect if. cities are pitching for a new stadium. It's like, hey, just look at what we can. do nowadays with engineering and. everything we have versus what we were. able to do back then. Congrats to the.

Buffalo area on getting this new. stadium. It looks electrifying. And. these bisons, from what I've heard, chests are gonna be high now. I'm sorry. >> Yeah, they're growing a bit. No, but to. your point, like if you pull that photo. back up, if you look at the location of. the old stadium, too, like, hey, you. know what? No could probably fit there. Casino, maybe a hotel, maybe some. restaurants, like the amount of money. casinos in York. >> Yeah, great place for it. It's wide open. right there. Um, but talking of Buffalo, Shreger, it feels like the only problem. they really have right now is James Cook. is a hold in. even though now looking at.

it from the outside, damn near this is. kind of the way to do it uh peacefully. if you will in this day and age now. But. with James Cook being the only question. mark, how do you feel about Buffalo? They got Josh Palmer in free agency from. LA. That's kind of what was one of their. big signings when it came to the. offensive side, but do you think this is. the year for Buffalo? Is this going to. be the season where they can finally. talk some kind of legitimate uh [ __ ] to. Patriots fans? or do you think that the. Buffalo Bills still are are going to try.

and figure it out and then inevitably. get down to the AFC Championship? >> Look, I think the AFC East will be. better than it was last year when you. had two horrendous teams in the Patriots. and and the Jets and the Dolphins didn't. live up to expectations. So, I think the. competition is going to be a little. harder in the division, but if I had to. scope it out right now, looking at the. AFC and how loaded the North is and how. loaded the West is, I I would think that. the Bills have the inner track on that. one seed, and it's not going to be the. Chiefs as the one seed, and it won't be. the Ravens as the one seed, that the. Bills can still take care of their.

business, do what they do, and secure. homefield advantage, and then it goes. through Buffalo in January. And that's. the ultimate hope. And they had that two. years ago. Yep. and and they lost, you. know, obviously in that in that. heartbreaker to the Chiefs um in the. divisional round and then of course you. look at what happened last year and they. had to go into Arrowhead and it didn't. work out the way they wanted and they. lose in that round. I would think they. they are going to be if not the one. seed, they'll be the two seed. To me, it. everyone's back from the coaching staff. They bring all this great talent back on.

the field. Josh is married and happy and. financially secure. Losses like M. Collins. Like I don't know if that's I. mean he was their leading touchdown guy. and Matt Collins had a great but like. they were so deep at wide receiver that. you have to think that the Bills are. going to be right back where they were. They just have to get over the hump. And. I did like a list of like top five. storylines last week on Get Up. And I I. thought this is number two. Like it's. Josh and it's Lamar together in the same. conversation. And at some point, at some.

point you have your Michael Jordan. moment where you beat Isaiah and Dumars. And at some point you have your LeBron. moment where you get past the Celtics. and the Pistons and you do it, you know, like at some point they have to do it to. really cement this thing. And I feel. like this is the year for Buffalo and. it's all there in the cards. They just. have to get there again. >> Are the Chiefs dead, Trikes, because. they lost in a Super Bowl. They're the. reigning AFC champions. everybody. And. if we've seen Travis, we're thinking to. ourselves, >> talking about someone looking.

>> good and tall and sweet. That's a good. way to describe that. Travis looks sweet. right now. Looks taller than he's ever. looked, which might mean he looks leaner. than he than he's been in some time. Patrick Mahomes has had an entire off. season of nobody expecting [ __ ] from the. Kansas City Chiefs now. And last taste. of football that he has, ass beating by. the Philadelphia Eagles. >> Yeah. what Shaker saying too about how, you know, Jordan beat Isaiah Thomas and. LeBron beat the Celtics and the Pistons. in this, you know, situation. Mahomes is.

more so the Jordan and LeBron and Josh. Allen is more so the Isaiah Thomas Dumar. just hasn't got it done yet. >> And there's a chance Josh Allen's career. ends with him winning six straight Super. Bowls. >> Bingo. Like there there's a chance that. their team could be losome. on Mahomes, >> but then there's a chance Pat Mahomes. wins for the next 15 years. >> Mahomes has been to seven straight. conference championship games. I mean, insane stuff. >> He just goes crazy. >> Here's the thing on Mahomes. So, you're. seeing there's this there's this new.

documentary on the on the Chiefs um run. for three that's going to be on ESPN and. Disney Plus. I believe they announced it. yesterday. It's going to be on August. 14th. I have a friend who worked on. that. >> Really? That's cool. >> And it's going to be amazing. And I saw. some sneak peek stuff, but this is the. cool story and I don't think they'd have. a problem with me sharing this. >> spoiler. They they lose the Super Bowl. and it's like, you know, walking out of. that stadium the way it went like Brett. V is beside himself. Mahomes is beside. himself. Chris Jones is is devastated. They have like they Tuesday morning.

Mahomes is in the gym and Mahomes is. working out. Remember, the Super Bowl. ends Sunday night at like 1:00 am and. they've got their cameras here for this. kingdom, this whole thing, which I I. think is going to be awesome. And. Mahomes is working out that Tuesday. morning. And this is the same stuff that. you might say, "Oh, whatever. Every. player is." This is Michael Jordan last. dance stuff. This is when we lose to the. Pistons. We get in the gym that morning. and we encourage Scottie Pippen to get. and follow the lead. We encourage Horus. Grant. I just think they are so dialed. in. and they had that picture of him at.

the party with Britney and they're and. he's he's got a little dadbot and. everyone had their fun with that. Like. he reads and hears everything. Mahomes. is a killer. Like I think this is. actually the last thing you want to do. is start questioning Mahomes's. dedication or his fitness and what they. have because truth be told they got. better on the offensive line. They're. going to have healthy wide receivers. They added some talent on the defensive. side. Like I don't know Kansas City, you. start questioning them and you start. considering how they lost that Super. Bowl and how embarrassed they were. I I. I wouldn't be shocked if they come out.

guns blazing to start the season. >> Yeah, I'm pretty pumped to watch this. particular team. Like legit, I don't. know who's blocking and that whole thing. uh for him. Let's assume Andy Reid will. figure that all out. I just have faith. in V and Andy Reid. But Patrick Mahomes. being the guy that is washed in some. people's eyes. He's a cool little thing. That's a cool little thing for Patrick. Mahomes to get to, oh. >> like what can you do? You have to find. ways to motivate yourself. And what's. going to motivate me? What's the chip on. the shoulder this year? Well, it might. as well be everyone taking a crap all.

over me and my physique, you know, like. whatever it is. Whatever you saying like. threw a hammock. >> Figure figuratively speaking talking. >> I'm not relating to him. >> But I did see that he enjoyed that type. of stuff. >> They were a hammock. They pushed it. through there to each their own. >> Do you feel like there's really a a a. contingent of people who are really. counting like Mahomes and the Chiefs? Uh, the best is behind. Is that like. real? >> Broncos are the most bet team to win the.

win a division in the NFL. >> Boom. >> What are their odds? Their odds are. probably like. >> plus 240. >> And what are the Chiefs odds to win? >> Probably even. >> Minus 240. >> So, I don't know. But I think people. watch the asset of the Super Bowl and. all I think we're a pretty simple. species humans. >> We see. >> I think the Ravens the Ravens are. favored over them in the AFC. I think. the Eagle like they're not the Super. Bowl favorites out of the AFC this year. That's that's based on what Las Vegas is. saying, not even my opinion.

>> Baltimore signed Chuck Pagano. >> That's right. We did this off season. >> The [ __ ] odds moved. >> I mean, they're all the same. They're. all the same. >> Yeah. >> Pretty cool. >> They're the third team, you know, like. and that's not that's not disrespectful. It's just those two team people think. they're going to break through. I mean, that's fine. >> They're plus 750. I haven't seen one bad. thing about Mahomes this year. I. remember the body thing, Shreger, but. you just said that their O line's going. to be better. And last year, all we did. was talk about how Joe Tuni might be the. greatest left guard in the history of.

football. Like, how is their O line. better when they lose a Hall of Fame. guard? >> That's fair. I I I'm talking about the. left side. I mean, they got Josh Simmons. in the draft, obviously. >> You got me. >> Tuna Tuna is And he was their dude, he. was their MVP last year. He stepped in. and played left tackle, but eventually. >> eventually I'm like, wait a second. Now, you know what? >> That's pretty good call. >> Pretty good question. All. >> right. Drafted. >> Once again though, we just assume V and. Andy Reed will figure it out.

>> They can draft two guards in the fifth. round and I would think that one of. those two guys. >> No, they could draft two. Not that VH. would ever miss like this, but there's a. chance you draft a guard to replace him. and the guy stinks and doesn't fit in. with your group. Like there the. offensive line is so fickle and so. important. I think. >> they have done such a good job drafting. You have to give them the faith on that. But I was thinking more the left side. where Tun was playing out of position. and it was unbelievable. And they got. two different guys. They got more of the. free agent and then of course Simmons. who everyone says if he's healthy and. when he's healthy is probably the steal.

of the draft at that part in the draft. So we'll see. >> I saw Jordan Milada. >> Holy [ __ ]. >> Big [ __ ]. >> How how is that allowed? >> How is he played rugby? He can punt. How. does. >> he have the rugby highlights? >> What did he say? Did he say no? That was. the guy we talked to from Australia. He. said he had a cracking left foot. >> Also a legend. >> Legend. Absolutely. >> Also a weapon. Who was that? Who's from. Australia? You just met one of his boys. >> Uh, no. This is not one. This is another. Aussie that was out there. I don't want. to give it away too much. The guy's. awesome. The world will meet him through.

this show at some point. That was my. first time meeting him. I'm like, would. like this guy in my life a little bit. more. I have a cracking left foot, mate. >> Cracking left foot. But my I believe he. played rugby, right? He's rugby. >> Yeah, rugby. >> Could you imagine no pads trying to. tackle that thing? >> No. >> Good luck. So he's gigantic. Sings. >> He's on the rabbits. That was his team. The rabbits. I remember we did a bunch. >> He was out at the SP. I saw him a bunch. He was cool. >> Incredibly. >> massive dude. Got so good at football. Love Stout uh Stoutland.

coach. He's like, "Well, he's basically. do whatever he says, man.". >> I'm like, "That's smart. Feels like. that's a good play.". >> Jaylen Carter, we we we talked about a. little bit. >> Jaylen Carter, he's more built like. Aaron Donald than I thought. >> He's I thought he would be taller. >> Not 340. He's like, yeah, he's he's. nimble. >> He's like Aaron Donald. So, whenever you. see him, he clearly has leverage. >> on everybody. >> Thought he was 6'8". >> and then Yeah, me too. >> In my mind, the stories you hear, baby. rhino, everything, it's like, "Okay, this guy is massive.".

>> No, he's just wildly strong. >> He might be the strongest guy cuz what. >> he might be the he might be the best. defensive lineman in football. >> I mean, the best defensive player. >> Yeah, no question. and you meet him and. he's just like, >> "Holy, what a weapon." That entire. Eagles team was there. It's like, "Why. weren't you at the SB? That feels like a. Shreker, doesn't it?". >> It totally is. I would be there in like. a gold suit. Unfortunately, I was. hosting I was I was hosting Get Up that. day. So, I was doing the derby stuff. while you were at the Derby. I was doing. Get Up, you know. So, I was always like. starting the day for the Pat McAfee show.

later in the day. >> Oh, very nice of you kicking that off. You could have used our set though at. both these places to do these shows. >> Fair enough. Okay. Next year. I saw you. I saw Kirk Herb Street. I was jealous. I. wanted to get in on all that. That. looked fun. >> Kirk Herb Street fresh out of a fivemon. hiatus. >> Must be nice. Oh man, those guys like. >> he earned it. 30 years. 30 years. 30. years. He's earned it. He's earned it. I. think. >> that's. >> He worked his ass off during the season. >> Yeah. That's all I keep telling him is. like you've earned this just. disappearing for five months going to 50.

different beaches golfing. >> Matt, who was who was the coolest guy. you hadn't met or gal at the SBS that. like first time you met? Who? >> Jerry Judy. >> Buy a mile. Buy them all. Jerry Judy's. the guy. Yeah, we love Jerry. >> I want Jerry Judy in a New England. Patriots or Colts or Packers or Steelers. or any of Debbus teams so bad so we can. follow him. >> Yeah, I'm pulling for the Browns now cuz. Jerry Judy be. >> Tell me what about him? Just electric. personality. What? >> He's South Florida boy. I mean that is. just that is all you need to know. That. is all. >> Who's the coolest guy you know? Shrinker.

>> The coolest guy I know. Jared Judy. apparently. >> Triple it. Yeah. >> Yeah. Exactly. That is he was awesome. I. saw him. I was in the elevator upon. check-in with him and his crew and the. interaction between us was epic. I mean, it was sweet interaction. He had a great. group around him. So then I go to my. room and then I get changed like 15 20. minutes come back to the elevator. Same. he we're in this elevator going back. down. Same exact plans whatever it was. We're going to our room then we're. coming back down. So I spent a lot of.

time with Jerry Judy immediately upon. getting pretty personal space. So a lot. of chitchatting. Then then I go we leave. the place. I come back, Jerry Judy and. his boys are right in the middle of the. lobby. Like literally. So I see him. again. So I'm like, "Hey, we're doing a. show tomorrow. Just come through. whenever you want to come through. Uh. we'd love you to have you or whatever.". He goes, "All right, bet." Then I next. morning I wake up. >> [ __ ] Jerry J. I I saw him again. It. was like our our schedules were the. exact same. There's hundreds of people. in this hotel, if not thousands of. people in this hotel at this time. Everybody has different things. Me and.

Jerry Judy schedules were just like at. the exact same time. He was going to get. a workout in. He was like, "When I get. back from this workout, I'll come over.". I'm like, "Sweet." He went over to UCLA, I think. Then he came back, walked over, was not a golfer at all. Rolled a pretty. good couple putts. And then he then we. go to the ESB. >> He's sitting right behind us. I mean, it. was just like this guy was awesome. He. was cool the entire time. Oh, yeah. >> I love that. That's a story I love, Pat, because, you know, we know these guys as. fantasy football players, what they do. on Sundays, but I love hearing that off. the field in July, this guy was the man.

>> Electric. And he was just trying to like. literally And then we go to Shane's. afterparty. Jerry Judy's there. I mean. it was it was literally it was and we. saw him everywhere and every time by the. end of it it was like. >> Jerry what up? >> What up Andrew? Like uh I think Connor. even like uh. >> when we were at the SPS Yeah. cuz since. he came on the program to do the putting. on Wednesday when we're at the ESPs I. just saw him wandering around. So I was. like, "Jerry, Jerry, Jerry, over here.". Which like we never do when we're in. these. >> And then he came joined us. >> And then he came over and he hung out. for 20 minutes before we went in.

>> Yeah. I felt like Jerry Jerry Judy's the. guy that I'm pulling for this year. strictly after the quarterback. >> Yeah. Had to figure it out. >> What's that? >> Got to figure out a quarterback. >> I got four quarterbacks. You got four. You got one. >> I tried to get it out of him. Who's been. doing well? Who's, you know, separating. themselves? And he said, you know, great. group, great group of guys. But he's. coming off a career year. uh since he's. coming to league, that's kind of been. the thing. You obviously as a wide. receiver, you need a good quarterback, need a good play caller, good offensive. line, but when he was coming out in that. draft and even when he was at Bama, like. he was picked as like one of the next.

guys. So glad he got paid and uh as a. wide receiver, you always want to see. good wide receivers play with good. quarterbacks, good organizations. >> My first time uh talking to him in that. elevator, I was like, "Do you live out. here or where do you live in the. offseason?" And he goes, "I'm a Florida. boy. You know that.". >> That was his only answer. And I started. laughing. I was like, "Of course." Yeah. Yeah. I for Yeah, I get you from Florida. people. Yeah, I get it. I get it. I get. it. >> You did uh you did game day obviously. with him a million times and he was. killer. But I I've met him several. times. Like tell the a Shane Gillis is.

the most normal guy you'll ever meet. Like the best. Like just incredible. Just as as if he had never been a. superstar and isn't selling out. stadiums. Every interaction I've had. with him, he is just the coolest, most. low-key hilarious guy. >> Shane is Shane is hilarious. He's the. right guy for the job. No doubt. That's. just why he's the right guy for his job. that he is doing currently. He is the. right guy for it. And uh yeah, we've. known him a while now. Very lucky to. know him for a long time. Football guy, dude. >> He's a football guy. I I you hear some.

of the locker room when you hear Shane. talking. The locker room in like 2004, five, six. >> Best. It's like a nostalgia trip every. time he's talking. You know, it's like, yeah, we're right back in it. Right back. in it. When I spoke to him last year, his convers he wanted to ask me like how. I was at the college football video game. because he had just gotten it and was so. like into it. I'm like, that's a normal. guy. All right. You're playing the. college football video game. >> Also, he would beat the [ __ ] brakes. off you in that game. I would assume. I. There's been a couple times I've talked. to him and we're gaming and I have to. get like an answer out of him.

>> Uh-huh. >> Sorry, dude. Third time. >> Sorry. What's that? And then we're back. in there. It's like, "All right, good. luck out there, man. I'm pulling for. you." He's the right man for the job as. are you. We appreciate you joining us, ladies and gentlemen. Insider analyst. Peter Shreger. >> Love Trace going on. >> Yeah, he's the man, man. >> Talk about everything. All right, we'll. continue digitally YouTube, ESPN Plus, Disney Plus, and Tik Tok live on this. glorious training camp Tuesday. 26 teams. reporter today. What will we talk about. tomorrow? Well, probably the final two. teams reporting and all the other [ __ ]. that's going on. Will Trey Hendrickson. be an employed football player tomorrow?

No. >> Or is he just retire and say, "I'm. gone." We'll see. >> What a what a cliff. >> Yeah. Oh my god. Great tease. He could just retire. What if he goes. out on a boat today, catches a. swordfish, >> post a photo holding that thing? This is. my new profession. >> I retire. Toss the swordfish back out. there. Maybe puts Brian's face on it. >> Yeah. >> Toss it back in. >> Or [ __ ] this. >> KBD reaches out. Hey man, saw the fish. you pull. I think you got a lot of towel. and I want to take you under my wing.

>> Yeah, Kevin Vanam might see. >> It's out there fishing. >> Yeah, without a doubt. >> Have you seen what those guys in Ohio. did? They were trying to rack it up, but. they were. >> They're putting the weights in the fish. >> Are they still freeman or. >> Dar KBD shot him in the head with with a. hook? >> Trey might get traded. >> maybe. >> What age? >> How would that I guess? Yeah, I guess if. someone would, he would have to agree. The new team would have to agree most. likely to give him a new deal. >> Classic this situation here. >> You think it would happen? >> Yeah, >> I think he's like, "Hey, he said it.

since radio.". >> He would love it. No, I think he would. love it. Absolutely. I'm just saying I. don't know if it's going to happen. Yeah, >> Commanders, Panthers, Packers. >> Bengals really need edge rushers, too. They don't want to pay theirs. >> AJ speaking as a Cincinnati Bengals fan. Uh yeah, we're one of those teams. We. drafted a guy. He's still not in the. building. >> But it's just ignorant to think like. tomorrow all of a sudden this is going. to get this has been going on since the. Super Bowl and he and Shrakes just said. it like, "Hey, they're not giving into. what he wants at all." And I think him.

leaving it's like he's he's far past. giving into what they want. Like. >> I think Mike Brown said that too. >> Yeah. >> It's hard to see what. >> Goofy. I should. >> get that guy a hat. >> Well, Mike Brown, >> he was indoors. He's trying to pay. respect. >> Did Trey find his [ __ ] done under the. new CBA, too, for actually not being. there? Like, cuz that's why all the. holdings happened. >> I assume he's willing to take the game. checks gone, you know? >> I mean, but Mike Brown acting like, hey, this guy needs to play his contract. He. signed a contract. And I get that. This.

isn't how it works in the NFL for any of. these guys. like they get. >> and on their side the way they view. contracts you cut guys you sign guys you. sign a 100 guys to contracts every. single day every single year. >> Yeah. Like he he going into the last. year you get a new contract. >> Now granted. I think what Mr. Brown also wasn't. referencing is so we told him the last. two years we get him next year. >> Big deal. I lied. That happens. >> I lie all the time. >> Guess what we told him again this year.

We'll get you next year. >> Yeah. He and he bought it. He's an idiot. He bought it. >> We're knocked out this year. >> Fled the league of sacks. >> We Well, we'll get you next year. >> Yeah. >> Well, I'm a free agent next year. Everybody has. >> That's what I'm saying. >> Yeah, we'll get you. >> We priced you right whenever we gave you. that deal. Well, why'd you tell me the. last two offseason you give me next. year? We thought maybe we would. >> They shut you up, didn't it? >> The Shamar Stewart thing. I love them, Kevin. His representation's telling him. something that doesn't make any sense to.

us. But I it's not Shamar's fault. It is. the people around him's fault. And I. don't even know how we get past that is. what the Bengals That sounds like it's a. dire situation as well. It does. >> Unless Shamar could babyf face Shamar. could baby face this. >> Now it involve getting new. representation. >> Yeah. >> Like that'd be an easy way to kind of do. it. And I'm not saying you should do. that. I understand him and his agent. probably have a great relationship and. they obviously trust each other mightily. to cause this big of a situation, but if. Shamar the player really wanted to babyf.

face this thing, easy, new. representation, yada yada, this what we. want to do. I'm committed to the Bengals. and then that thing turns immediately. Now, I'm not saying the agent. necessarily wants to be the bad cop in. this whole thing, but if we're trying to. make Shamar babyface in Cincinnati. quickly, that can happen. That is. something that can the Trey Hendrickson. thing, >> I don't know if there's any. No, >> that feels not good. >> That's done. >> That feels not good. So maybe he is. trading tomorrow. >> Could be. >> Do you think Shamar and I don't think. this is the case, but do you think it's. possible?

>> It sure feels like this is something. that. >> No, I'm just saying this is something. just throwing it out there. >> Do you think it's possible that like he. planned to rob a bank in 3 years. >> and he was just I'm not signing this. thing. >> And do you think he told the told him. that? I'm gonna be good. I'm going to. give everything I got to you guys for. the next two years, year three. I I am. planning to rob a bank. So, Mr. Brown, have you ever seen the movie Inside Man? >> Okay, this guy moves into the bank. >> Takes time. >> while rob. >> I always have wanted to find out if that.

is executable. So, I I'm going to try. that in the next four or five years. >> That's just a heads up. You take that. information however you want. Mike. Brown, thank you for that information. If. >> I get arrested, I would still like to be. paid. >> I saw you didn't have that clause in. your contract, so you will have to pay. me. >> So, Mike Brown goes back into the think. tank. He goes, "Can't pay this guy." He. told me he's going to [ __ ] rob a. bank. >> He's serious. >> You want me to pay a guy that's in. prison for robbing a bank? I don't think. so. And then he he even said, "What's. the one these players like to do. nowadays?" Talking about laws.

>> He did. >> He did. >> Did you hear that? >> Which part is that? I I listen. I don't. know if I remember that part. >> I don't want to play it cuz it's so. terrible. It is very bad. It's like if a. guy goes to prison for and he says. something, he goes, "That's seemingly. what everybody's doing these days.". >> That's what I can think of. >> Yeah. I'm serious. This whole thing is a. nightmare PR like like. >> a really bad thing too. >> Yeah, it's not good. Not a good thing. Not a good thing. >> Isn't there normal like contract conduct. detrimental to the team situations? Is. it this above and beyond that that. they're trying to ask Jamar or what?

>> So, I think the conduct detrimental void. penalties for rookie contracts is in. what we heard like half the league. The. Bengals not being a part of that half. until this year is a surprise to all of. us. We would assume that the Bengals. would have been in the hey we can void. guarantees if you do something because. that is the Bengals mo too how can we. save as much money as possible. especially if it's free if it's. available you would think that the. Bengals would utilize it that is kind of. so the Bengals try to utilize that this. year they didn't do it last year this is.

from how we understand the story at this. moment okay from hearing from both sides. so now he's being told we're not doing. we're not your guinea pigs for something. new but if he was drafted to 15 other. teams they would have done it as well so. it's a tough thing to kind of. >> allegedly. >> I think rally allegedly. Yeah, it's. tough thing to rally with the. information that we have right now, but. right now it's like conduct detrimental. They can use that against you for the. rest of your life. I got conduct. detrimental uh for a tweet that is still. on the internet. >> saying. >> I did not delete the tweet. It was a. good tweet and then I get a $50,000 fine.

for conduct detr What team was was this. detrimental to? I didn't think this was. not Well, you can't do that. Well, I'm. not taking it down. I don't think it's. wrong at all. It was a distraction. That's detrimental. Distraction to who? I play my best [ __ ] game. Well, it. was it misrepresented who we are. It's. detrimental to the team. I'm like, "Oh, so you can just use this.". >> You had to wait too for anything. >> Actually, to a bangle, former Bengal, me. and uh oo kind of going back back and. forth. >> And you find uh Yeah. >> Why don't you let him know? Just wait. till we run cover two on you,

[ __ ]. >> He was kind of saying like, "Yeah, double team blah blah." And I was like, "It's going to be me and you. Me, me and. you. No double team blah." And Bill was. like, he waited till like Saturday. We. just do a Saturday walk through. We be, you know, Saturday pregame kind of walk. through and he just waited and buck come. here. Boom. Had like. just a sheets of just the back and forth. printed out from [ __ ] birds. I gave. it to him and then just went down and. they conduct told me I was basically. giving away the game plan essentially.

But uh it was worth it. He won the game. >> Still up there. The um I got a I got the. I got one of these printed out to me as. well. Well, he he had one for himself. >> Uhhuh. >> And he slid across too for me to look. at. >> Wanted to watch me take in what I was. looking at. And what I saw was a. phenomenal post. [ __ ] great caption. >> Did you say. >> that's [ __ ] perfectly capt, right? >> Perfectly captioned. The [ __ ] the. photo of the electrical outlet as if I. was Mr.

Kennedy. Kennedy was awesome. If you knew. wrestling, it was beautiful. I even. blurred out all the other stuff so it. looked like it was a portrait photo. >> Mhm. >> Oh, >> caption was spot on for what my life. would become whenever I retired as well. >> So, I looked at that thing. I was like, "Yeah, I should frame this [ __ ]. thing." And. >> that was not the way it went. >> It went the complete opposite way. >> Worth it? >> Certainly was. >> Mine were worth it. It was Oo had like a.

buck 40 on me. >> I mean, >> that was detrimental. Not bad. >> It was a blowout. It were down like 30. and a half times. So Carson just I mean. back there we playing two man. Just. >> a lot of those. Yeah. Well, let's get. the hell out of here, huh? >> Hell yeah. >> This guy could get arrested. Good. >> Can they get super specific? How. specific can you get? Could you go back. and say, "Hey, all right. If I am. convicted of a crime, you don't owe me. my guarantees." Like, does it get that. like in depth? >> I guess in negotiations it can be. anything, right? Like we had to. negotiate actual words on what we're.

allowed to say and what we weren't. allowed to say. And that was like. >> I sent a pool of words that I would like. to be said. >> They responded. I took a stand. I gave. some up and then those words were put. into the contract. Okay. >> Okay. >> So, yes, I think you can add anything. into a contract like that, but I assume. the Browns are going to think of a lot. of different What if he goes swimming. and drowns, dies? I don't want to pay a. dead guy. >> No way. What if this guy. >> You think you think his. >> the amount of things they could.

>> they could continue to think of what if. he gets on a train and in a moment of. panic he gets out of the train, jumps in. front of the train, gets run over by the. train. I don't want to pay a guy that. just got run over by a [ __ ] train. Do. you want to pay a guy to run? I think. you think of any Jerry Jones saying he. get hit by a car. Think of these these. billionaires. He get hit by a car. He. get arrested. He get shot in the face. He could drown. All these things. It's like, yo, you got. to pay people. Like, this is [ __ ]. this is the. >> how it works. >> This is the game. >> Well, and then you hear Shamar Stewart.

talk and it's like, oh, okay. >> We love. >> So, I am definitely I I definitely think. this guy knows what he's doing, but it. just it's just that middleman. You never. know what's happening with who's in. Shamar's ear and. >> what's that called? A reliable. >> reliable narrator. >> Narrator. Yeah, a reliable narrator is a. big deal. >> because they're the ones reading through. the contract explaining what is going. on. Just like whenever somebody decides. to summarize an article or a bill or. anything that's happening, it's like you. got to be very careful about who you're. trusting that is summarizing it. What.

pieces of information are they leaving. out? What piece of information are they. presenting? What story are are they. trying to tell? Like you have to have a. reliable person telling you those. things. And everything we've heard from. we love. Mhm. Mhm. >> Seems. very. smart and clever, >> charming. Charming charming. And. >> that is a promo uh from Rob Vanam. Yeah. >> About. >> the Heartbreak Kid, Shawn Michaels. >> Oldtimer. >> But it was like whenever we first heard. this about Shamar, I think our immediate.

reaction was like, "Dude, >> it's the NFL. >> What do you do?". >> Yeah. >> Come on. This league will exist without. you. >> This young [ __ ] needs to shut his. mouth and sign his contract. Then we. heard him talk and we're like, "Holy. [ __ ]. >> guy's very eloquent. >> We really like that guy. We really like. that guy. >> Very rational human." Yeah. >> And then we start hearing the entire. thing and it's like, "Oh, I don't know.". And then we start getting more. information about more team is doing it. It's like, uh, >> the agent. >> don't want this to go bad. We like. Shamar. We think he could be a great NFL. player if he plays right. Just needs a.

bunch of reps. But also, this doesn't. feel like the hill you want to die on to. start your entire NFL career. you you. obviously wish you would have went to a. team that is still going to give you. your guarantees if something happens but. feels like from what we've been told. it's less than half so it's like what. situation are you really in what war do. you want to start pros and cons how do. you want to do it's just very. fascinating just to start your career. >> only two unsigned guys right the whole. class. >> yeah him and Jens. >> yeah they I mean they got it figured out. >> yeah need him they need him on the field.

he knows that don't you think his agent. and Shamar they understand like hey I. got they have some leverage here I guess. >> well that's like shock. Shock might be their starter. >> So he had like real leverage. Everybody. thought he was going to be able to work. So then all the other second rounders. were like, >> "Yep, >> he's going to get. >> this guy's later than us, right? He's. going to he's a starting quarter." That. New Orleans situation's fascinating. I'll be excited to see what they are. this year. >> Man, I believe they're. >> still got a lot of dogs. >> No one's expecting much. They could they. could uh surprise some people for real. People are like forgetting about them. I. feel like. >> they still have dogs on their team.

>> Yeah. two two of those by offer. >> You need Governor J Landry gonna have. bad football team. >> training camp, you know, everybody 32. teams all all What did Tone say earlier? Who Jets can win it? Oh yeah, everybody. >> Governor Jet Landry make sure that Super. Dome is super as possible. >> Yeah. And it will be super. But. >> did you see um. >> Let's move on. >> What we going to see? >> Oh man. Well, we talked about a Truth. Social post yesterday about a name of a.

team. >> Yeah. >> And we just read it for what it was. >> I got a couple emails from people saying. I shouldn't say that word. Okay. >> Which I understand there's passion on. both sides of it. I believe President. Trump was just nominated for a Nobel. Peace Prize by Native Americans. >> I believe. >> Is that real? >> I believe that just happened. >> Wow. >> And Governor Jeff Landry was the one. that announced that because I believe. that particular group is based in. Louisiana. So, it's an interesting time. to be alive right now. For sure. We're. trying to get it right, you know, but.

boy, how could you, you know? How the. [ __ ] can you? >> You really, how can you? I I have no. idea. But just know all we're trying to. do is make every every day a little. better. >> Mhm. >> And we appreciate everybody that follows. along. We're the luckiest dudes on earth. that we get to talk about sports every. single day. We love sports. Sports are. happening in a big way all the time. AJ, great hair. You growing it out this. year? >> Wait, wait, wait, wait. Yeah. I don't. know. >> But before we get out of here, you. mentioned. >> uh No, no, no. It's not like that. You. mentioned drowning. Lost a legend in.

Paul Warner, man. >> Oh my god. >> Be be safe out there. Absolute legend. I. grew up, you know, I'm sure we all. watched the Cosby's growing up, but he. you know, Theo absolute legend. So that. was that was that was tough yesterday. Got that news I think right after we got. on the show think tank and all of us. kind of had the similar reaction. So. obviously be safe when you're out there. swimming anywhere, especially in the. ocean. But tough tough loss to uh. everybody out there. So, rest in peace. to an absolute legend. >> Yeah, rest in peace. Society lost a. great one. Um, the water [ __ ].

>> scary. is scary. >> So, the rip tide thing, you know, like. uh SC, you have no idea what's going on. underneath that water. >> No idea. So, I I live on water now about. 45 minutes north here, there's a lake. that I live on and every once in a while. the tide will get rolling in there and. you see people get in the water and then. them just rolling. It's like, what's. that com? It's a lake. What's that? You. have no idea. and then it will just flip. and go the other way. It's scary and uh. that sucks for society. >> Uh sucks for society. Also,

>> breaking news. >> Um I believe Aussie Osborne. >> has passed away. >> Oh, >> no way. He just did his last. >> Yeah. last concert. >> Yeah, they went home. >> And uh age of 76, Aussie Osborne has. sadly passed away since discussing film. >> Uh sat down and performed. What was that. last weekend? Yeah, >> I think over in England and they're. coming home. Basically, every rock band. that is alive went over there and. celebrated him and his band and uh man, what I remember the reality show. I.

remember Sharon. >> Yeah, >> the whole thing. >> What a weapon. Well, rest in peace to. the legends that we lose. >> and uh let's enjoy the hell out of the. days that we have. We have no idea. what's tomorrow, right? >> True. Very true. >> Be a friend. Tell a friend something. nice about change your life. We're in. this thing together. Team on me. Team on. three. One, two, three. Hey, goodbye.