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practices happening around the NFL. Look. out we got more highlights of ones. taking on ones. We got scraps coming up. The Raiders are taking on the Texans in. practice. Early indications are saying. that that guy right there is absolutely. balling. Will Fernando Mendoza be the. starter for the Raiders entering the. regular season or will that continue to. be Kirk's job as he leads the way for. the young number one overall pick. The. New Orleans Saints with Kell Moore in. his second year are battling against the. Cowboys all week. The Saints are a nice. talking point for the NFC South because.

for years they've had to kind of eat. shite because of their salary cap. issues. full turnover in the front end. in the office and Kell Moore becomes a. head coach last year with no. expectations at all. Towards the end. though, they had like a 55-year-old. rookie quarterback that started getting. real hot and shook and all of a sudden. things are up and to the right for the. Saints now. The number eight overall. pick, Jordan Tyson gets hurt yet again. Okay, he had injury issues throughout. college. Whenever he was at Colorado, he. tore his ACL, MCL, and PCL on his knee, I do believe. Okay, so just total knee.

blow. 2024 after uh he transferred over. to Arizona State in 2023. He got the Big. 12 newcomer of the year I do believe at. Arizona State. 2024 fractures collar. bone. Then he gets sprained ankle in. 2025. Then he sprains his hamstring. twice. >> Yikes. >> 2025. And then now he has another. strained hamstring. It's supposed to be. five, six weeks maybe, maybe the first. month of the season. Kell Moore was. asked about it. You know, with all his. injury history and everything, everybody. worried about him. Number eight overall. pick. It's pretty high for a guy that's. gotten hurt a lot. They said, "No, no,

we believe in him. We believe in his. work ethic. We saw him run his workout. He looks smooth. He looked content. He. looks like he's one of the best guys. Kell Moore said training camp, he's been. absolutely balling. He just got a bad. landing spot and got shoved. This is. misfortune. He got unlucky in this. particular thing and he'll move on. We. have seen guys who get hurt in college. go on and have very long prosperous. careers in the NFL. I believe there's. plenty of stories where it is just. unluck and misfortune. mean for these. guys to get injured and I think this is. potentially happening to this guy now.

Have the football gods just decided that. this guy's going to get hurt and have. unlucky situations on a regular basis? Seems like it. Will that stop? For him, we are sure hoping so. For Tyler Shuck, we are hoping so. For Kell Moore, we're. hoping so. Because maybe the Saints are. the talking point of the NFC South. whenever we get towards December. Or is. Baker Mayfield who's already come out. and said, "Ah, everybody's betting. against us." I I like that. Okay, we. like that. Baker, are you going to get a. new deal done down there or not? We. still don't know. And then the Niners. taking on the Chargers. Okay, McDaniel, Herbert, Harbaugh, they're living their.

best life right now as the San Francisco. 49ers. Brock Pery will join us at the. end of this week, I do believe on. Friday. We'll get a chance to catch up. with him. Him and M. Jones are the. bestest of buds. Looks like their. offense is rolling. George KD said he's. going to be back hopefully for week one. Definitely going to be back on the field. for them. Christian McCaffrey, is that. contract ice or is that actual uh pain. he's got going on? We hope he is. healthy. So, all these teams are. obviously battling. We will watch. highlights and low lightss, a lot of. those moving out of these joint. practices uh for the next couple days. Excited that ball is happening all over.

the place. Speaking of ball happening. all over the place, Kenan Allen, wide. receiver legend, is now a member of the. Indianapolis Colts, which I love. [applause]. >> I absolutely love one year 8.32 million. worth up to, you know, probably. incentive laden. But we definitely need. some weapons. Especially with Alec. Pierce hoping to be back by week one. after a surgery and like his they say. ankle, but I think it's like his heelish. from my source says around the building. is it's more like heelish. So hopefully. he'll get that back healthy. I've heard. he's a stiff walker.

>> Sure. >> So what we're seeing out of camp with. him maybe not looking as comfortable. That's just naturally how he is. He's. explosive. He's got really tight. muscles. So like him walking tight and. awkward is very status quo. I do believe. for the entire operation. So don't be. looking into every limp on that left. side and think to yourself, "Wow, that. guy can't even walk. How's he going to. be a wide receiver?". >> You see it? >> He walks weird. They say naturally he's. a weird walker. So don't be judging this. walk. He's a naturally stiff, weird.

walker. He also is working his ass off. to get back. But there's a lot of things. I've seen that think like Alec Pierce. might take a little bit to get back to. who Alec Pierce was, which is deep. threat, explosive threat. Keenan Allen, great weapon alongside Tyler Warren, Josh D. Okay, now we also have Jonathan. Taylor in the back field happy and. content to be an Indianapolis Colt. If. that offensive line can play like they. played last year, we are welcoming this. man with wide open arms to make a lot of. plays for us. Third and seven, third and. five, third and six, who's going to get. it? The guy wearing a hoodie. Okay. And.

uh I hope we continue to make plays. I. hope we continue to make moves. And. whenever you look at the stats about. Keenan Allen, you think to yourself, "Thank God that guy's on our team.". Especially because we don't have any. damn wide receivers. That was huge news. yesterday. Talks table was here at. Boston Conor at Tai Schmidt. One of the. hammer Cowboys AP Tony is here. Nine-year NFL vet Darius Jay Butler is. here. Debuts Keenan Allen coming to the. Colts. Felt like a big move. We were. working out uh wide receivers a couple. days ago. Yep. It was all a bunch of. people I had not heard of and we knew. Keenan Allen had been sitting out there. We should have assumed there was some. interest at least in both parties,

especially with Daniel Jones and maybe. the opportunity that Keenan Allen sees. with the Colts. >> Yeah, definitely. O obviously him being. out there and him knowing this Shane. Stiken offense. I think that's a big. part of it. Obviously, when you're not. with the team throughout OTAAS, throughout many camps, throughout a. bunch of training camp, uh hopefully, you know, the system, you can hit the. ground running. That's what he would do. I think he'll be great not only on the. field, but you know, in the meeting. rooms because when you're wide. receivers, you talked about, you know, wide receivers maybe not having a ton of. experience, especially in this offense. Now you have a guy who knows it like a. coach. You talk about somebody who's.

been around. This is the active leader. in wide receiver catches. Only one. person in the league has more catches. and that's Travis Kelce, a first ballot. hall of famer. So this is a guy who. knows ball. He knows how to get open. He's not going to be the explosive take. the top off a defense type of guy, but. he will get open. He will be a. dependable target. Where will he play. will be my question because Josh DS is a. young very talented slot receiver. So. where where will 13 line up is the. question. But uh played 17 games last. year. I think that's huge as well being. 34 years old. So, I'm excited about this. addition going into the season.

>> Here's who he is on a list with with. most receptions before turning 34. Uh. Larry Fitzgerald, Hall of Famer. Jason. Whitten, Hall of Famer. Devonte Adams, Hall of Famer. Andre Johnson, Hall of. Famer. DeAndre Hopkins. >> Wow. >> So, I don't know. You start looking at. the list, you start thinking to. yourself, "Wow, we just picked up a. Hall of Famer.". >> I like that we did that. And you talk. about playing all 17 games. I didn't. know that little nugget right there. until you just said I am very pumped up. near them because the Colts problem has. been we're good when everybody's. playing. Yep. Soon as we lose anybody, we're kind of done for. This at least.

adds some depth to the wide receiver. room and picks up a lot of lost yardage. that we're going to have for the first. couple weeks from just looking at a. stiff walker walk. >> Sure. >> Okay. Especially a guy who's supposed to. be the most explosive guy on the field. >> Lot of money. >> That that is who Alec Pierce. Alec. Pierce is, you know, you look at him, you think. that guy probably pretty hard-nosed. tough yards. >> Thinking blocking wide out special team. guy maybe. >> Yeah. You you look you think that. naturally. You just think it's hard for. us not to, you know, terrible people.

It's been said numerous times. Certainly. am. But whenever you look at that guy, you don't think that's the most. explosive guy on the entire football. field who can take the top off and also. will go up on top of your head and do. that. I mean, he is a mix of Randy. I I. would say Ry's the greatest of all time. That is just me just saying. >> Greatest greatest deep threat of all. time. Jerry's the greatest. >> No debate. No question. >> I think there's. >> uh there is a debate and I would. [laughter]. >> There is no debate on the greatest wide. receiver. Let's not do this guy. >> I know. I know. This is like I know this.

is like when I was disrespecting Wayne. Gretzky all those years cuz I hadn't. looked up all of his stats, okay? And I. just said Mary Lemieux is greatest of. all time. Sydney Crosby is second. greatest of all time. Wayne Oak can kind. of fall in line. That That's what I. always said as a Pittsburgh Penguin fan. That is always what I said. Then. somebody told me like, "Hey, do you know. like if they got rid of Wayne's goals, like just got rid of all of his goals, he would still lead everybody in points. just off of assists and things like. that." I was okay. >> I did not know that. I guess we should. potentially look into. >> Yeah, but said Mario was better. >> Yeah. Well, he said that directly to us,

but he was saying that to make us feel. good cuz once again, Wayeno is the great. one. He said for years he believes it. >> Okay. Well, he's a good guy. He He is. But that you're saying that I'm. potentially doing that right now cuz. Randy was by far my favorite player, >> which I I I understand that. And Jerry, unlike Randy, he will not say that. He. will say he is the greatest of all time. You see the goat chain. Yeah, he will. remind you. You can look at his stats. just after 30 and he'll blow out most. receivers. I mean, even his his. touchdown record that was broken by. Randy Moss. He did that in 12 games. I. think he had 22 touchdowns or whatever.

Yeah, Jerry Rice, not only Tom Brady, he'll probably be one for most people, seven Super Bowl champs as a sup as a. quarterback, but Jerry Rice is the. greatest football player of all time. >> Okay. So, thank you for. >> the greatest football player of all. time. >> Okay. All right. >> Bar none. >> All right. >> Bar none. >> Oh my god. I mean, there's just so many. things that were. >> I never heard you say [laughter] that. I've never. heard you. >> Hold on. Did you read like a book about. Is there something that showed up. watching bowl? >> No, I understand that. on on this day.

Is there a reason you're seeing clearly. right now that that [laughter]. >> he is the I played with Randy? Randy. number one pick. It's a it's a coach. maybe. Okay. Just how explosive he is. He's a freak. 42 6'4 something inch. vert. Unbelievable athlete. But when. we're talking about the position of wide. receiver and playing football, I think. Randy will tell you Jerry Rice. >> Okay. I understand you should watch. You. said football. He's a great football. player. >> Oh yeah. I still say football player. Tom Brady, quarterback, seven trip.

titles. >> Different category. Different categories. are in a different category. Okay. Okay. >> So, football player, you're talking. Jerry Rice, you're talking Jim Brown, you're talking like LT, Aaron Donald, Aaron Donald's, maybe in that. conversation, his shorten career. So, a. part of greatness for me is like. longevity as well. Like Jerry was 40. years old, still putting up a thousand. yards like with little short braids, you. know, catching pass. >> Should we put like Ray in that. conversation, right? Lewis. Yeah. >> Cuz he has played a long time. >> Ed Reed. uh greatest defense. Yeah, you. talk about Reggie White. Yeah. Bruce.

Smith would be like it's some. >> you're talking those types of guys. >> Yeah. But but Jerry Rice, I think if you. talk to any like football people like. Jerry Rice, he's on the Mount Rushmore, but he's one or two. And I think the. only person you're in debate with is Tom. Brady. >> Okay. I like that you did that, by the. way. >> It's my opinion. >> I am very thankful that you did. Quarterbacks aside, >> quarterbacks aside, >> which make sure Dumpy, make sure you put. that on said tweet, you know, because. there's gonna be other accounts that are. going to pull that that are going to say. >> that's fine. >> This guy ever see Tom Brady play. >> Tom Brady is worldrenown by everybody.

>> 10 Super Bowl seven times. Yeah. >> Yeah. I mean, he's pretty pretty. remarkable football player. But. quarterbacks aside, most important. position. Guy touch the ball every. single play. >> You're still two quarterbacks in Hall of. Fame. >> I mean, they were they were great. They. were great quarterback. >> Shout out. Hey, Jerry. I hope you're. feeling the flops. right there. >> Hell yeah, Jared. >> Love you, Jar. >> Now, granted, Randy still, you know, >> back to the conversation. That's who. Alec Pierce is, you know, and uh the. conver he's not Randy Mos that. [laughter] don't do that. Don't do it.

They paid him a lot of money. I mean, they paid him a lot of money to be uh. Tone just put up a stat there. Uh I. guess he ran what. >> a 4-33 at the combine with a 40 and a. half inch. >> Who's that? >> Alan Pierce. >> No, no, no, no, no. This was before. that. [laughter] That was this was. before that whole thing. This was when. we were talking about that's not true. >> There's no reason why. >> But on that note, we paid him when we're. talking about deep threats. That's what. >> Oh yeah, he's playmaker for. >> and Daniel Jones loves him and Daniel. Jones able to get him the ball and uh I.

think he had by far his best season last. year and I think that's only going to. continue. But as you see there, he is. running, striding out. >> So he doesn't like walking. >> No. >> So that's why when you see him on a hill. or something, he's just uncomfortable. because he doesn't he likes to be full. speed. You think Cheetah's just like walking. around? Of course not. >> You think these stallions like just kind. of slow walking around? Oh, they want to. stride out. That's what Alec Pierce is. Now, will he be like Randy Monster Jerry. >> Jerry Rush? Possible. Time will tell.

>> We shall see. Anything is possible. Uh. but I would like his heel to get healthy. ASAP. Uh Kenan Allen, we appreciate you. coming to the Colts. That's a huge deal. We'll have some highlights from around. training camp practices. Obviously, in a. matter of moments, we'll continue to. chitchat about all the stories. like. Roger Goodell saying, "We got a team. going international for sure." Now, he. was talking to Marcus over there in. Germany as I assume they were promoting. the international games. Shout out to. Marcus by the way. I got a chance. to learn his story coming out of high. school. Uh him and his dad, I guess, came to America and drove around college.

to college giving like a highlight tape. and dims and everything. Ends up getting. into NC State, gets drafted, picked 239, I believe, to the Giants. Plays for like. four years, ends up with the Patriots, has a touchdown under his belt right. now. obviously in this entire thing and. he's a huge part of the international. growth. So he was sitting down with. Roger Goodell and Goodell just started. chitchatting about the realities of how. they view the international sport and. how they view the international markets. and we know that there's like nine. international games I think this year uh. maybe nine weekends of I don't whatever.

the case is there's a lot of. international games the combo about. taking a team overseas has always been. like kind of is that possible is that. not possible they have a home base in. America will they have some over there. well if they get this concord. >> plane super plane. >> if they get a super duper for playing, which they've been cooking on, I guess, which they almost had. Jim Ers came on. our show, owner of the Indianapolis. Colts. Rest in peace, Jim. But he had. been in the owners meetings for a long. time. He had been in the owner meetings. whenever they were talking about moving. to Europe or London for the first time. And he said the reason why it didn't.

happen is because they stopped that. Concord plane. Yeah. >> The Concord plane was supposed to be the. bridge basically between United States. of America and Europe for the NFL. And I. assume many other businesses were. thinking the exact same thing. That got. shut down. We thought that just natural. Mandela effect. I thought the Concord. plane got shut down cuz it was too fast. and people's faces were melting off. Did. you Did you think that as well? >> Uh something like that. Or maybe just. not safety or whatever. Yeah. But yeah, >> I thought something like blue I thought.

like uh we had like an Apollo situation. and they were like. >> there were a couple of those. >> in the testing as you're piecing this. together or post. >> no with like actual like paying. customers on it. Like there were a. couple like really bad crashes of what? >> Okay. So obviously not good. But I guess. the biggest issue with these things is. they were so loud. >> they couldn't they they were just so. loud they like this can't be around. humans. >> like that this is just like so loud. I. think there's advancements in this type. of technology happening. So if we can go. off of what Jim Ersce said okay to us.

which was we were supposed to go. brothers the Concord was supposed to. link us up there. If we get advancements. in travel I think that's going to. expedite everything and I think they're. bringing back a supersonic plane or. something like that. So, I'm thinking. what Roger Goodell's thinking is we had. a plan in place already cuz for like 35. years now, the NFL has been pitching. global, global, global, global. It's. been a long time. Now, it feels like. they're closer than ever. And if you. listen to what a former owner said, it's. like if we can get there, if we can get. there relatively quickly, we are. definitely going to do it. And I I guess.

we should just understand this is what. life is now with the NFL. And flag. football in the Olympics is only going. to grow it even more, I think. And this. is kind of the view of what the sport. is. There's gonna be people that don't. like the silicon man. There's gonna be. people that definitely hate that a. foreign country, an entity is getting a. part of our league because if we're. going to get that, we want Manchester. United over here. Sure. Right. >> Okay. We we would like uh Yeah, we'd. like Arsenal over here. We'd like. something like that if we're going to. help grow the game. But that is. initially the response is like, did they.

why do they get a team? And it's like, well, it's good for a sport is what. they're going to say. >> Great for the sport and it'd be awesome. just to see how they could do it. like. if they do put a whole entire division. over there, how would they kind of. operate within, you know, bringing teams. over, whether they have a home base, like you mentioned, like I I believe. when we first started talking about. this, Jacksonville, like if Jacksonville. had a home base over there and they were. part of it and then also did eight games. in the States. But I mean, it feels like. every year the teams come out and. they're like, "Hey, these five teams are. traveling the most versus anybody else. in the entire NFL." And there isn't.

really seemingly a correlation between. like those aren't the bottom five teams. in the NFL at the end of the year. So I. assume there is some sort of research. behind it as well. Like yes, of course. traveling internationally is tough. There's always a debate. I know whenever. they play in Australia, there'll be some. sort of situation where the ners fly out. one day versus the Rams. Did that help. them more? Did that hurt them more? You. know, last year I think the Rams stayed. in Baltimore for the week before they. flew over to England and they tried to. do it within 24 hours, keep it as normal.

as possible. But I bet the NFL has a lot. of research into that, too. Like, yes, the international travel definitely. changes things, but it doesn't. completely ruin your season or blow it. up. So, having that international team, there's definitely some sort of, "Hey, we're going to be able to do this and. it's not going to completely ruin a team. season.". >> Yeah. Hopefully. Yeah, cuz you're right. We do see like this team travel this. many miles and we're like, "Wow." And. then we just kind of turn the page. >> Yeah. Whatever. >> Sweet. Let's go to the next one. Cuz if. you're up there in Seattle, >> I mean, if you're playing anybody, you're going to be driving a long, long.

way. that's far away and they just won a. Super Bowl and so I think that kind of. puts that which is what the NFL players. >> that's going to suck for the players. whoever I mean and we all assume London. will be the first. >> I I I think so but Germany might be. putting in quite a. >> Would Mexico City get a team? >> Well, definitely if I think if they're. going to Yeah. >> Wait, yeah, I think we're talking Europe. right now. >> Strictly Yeah, overseas. Yeah, >> cuz that's a good question. Does Canada. get a team? Like does Toronto. >> No, I don't think so. They just beat us.

in the women's flag football. >> I get it. I They got the CFL though. >> True. >> They had the CFL. You have the CFL. >> NBA got team up the teams up there. >> City MLB, >> NHL. >> They they did say like Mexico City has a. baked in, you know, like massive fan. base already. But I think it would have. to be London cuz wasn't that initially. the Concord? It's like you can go from. New York to London in like two and a. half hours. So it like. >> we looked up all the reasons why the. Concord got cancelceled. I It was. everything we said and more. I think. there's a fuel inefficiencies as well.

[laughter] You know, >> that was a long time. >> Yeah, they playing it fast and loose. >> And now Elon's going to the moon. >> So, we assume we could send something. over the water, right? To get over to. London and back so we can get a football. team over there, maybe bring the world. together, celebrate sports, little. unification. How we doing? Keep it. moving. Well, what's the cost of those. fights? Who's actually going? Great. question. We'll have to figure that out. later, I guess. >> Yeah. And who says London only gets one? Like, what if you put four teams in. Liverpool and Manchester and London? Like, what if all four of them as a. whole. I thought I thought maybe London.

two, but I'm just But if they're. >> can't add four teams or something. >> Oh, hell no. >> Yeah, that's four four more quarters. more players. Yeah. >> Yeah, we would need. >> just I I just assumed you would have to. add at least two at a time, right? If. can you do 33 and then one conference. has one more or like I don't know how. that works. If they were to add just one. team, does the NFC then have 15? >> So, they add Mexico City and London. >> Yeah. at the same time. Is that. >> Can you imagine how pissed the owners. would be in those respective divisions?

>> Oh my god. The the London one, you got. to do three your division. >> Well, and then do you automatically put. the Northeast up there? Like do the. Patriots, the Giants, the Jets, do they. automatically become the teams over. there? Because that is that the closest? I'm just strictly thinking in my head of. a map. Those would be the three easiest. ones. So would those four teams make up. that division? Are we realigning the. entire NFL because of the international. going to go to and this is the last. thought on this. This goes to tone guy. who saw the international things and.

said I hate this. I did see you put up a. white flag. >> Yeah, I did. >> You're done with it. >> Yeah. I mean it's it's done. It's. happening. I can't fight it anymore. I'm. just going to accept it. I'm going to. love it and I'm going to be an NFL shill. and that's just what I'm going to do. >> Okay. So Raj Goodell got a hold of this. That's what I was going to say. Debbut. says he hates it. I. >> from the players from a players. >> Yeah. I don't think I I mean 9:30 in the. morning game every Sunday. >> I think it'd be sick. >> I wouldn't mind that. >> I I love it. I love the idea of an. international team. And what you just.

said did kind of change my thoughts a. little like adding four teams as there. four more starting quarterbacks in the. NFL. Maybe not. But it does feel like. there are uh there's much more talent. than there is now. And maybe that does, you know, open up the door like M. Jones. Could M. Jones be the starting. quarterback of a team right now in the. NFL? I feel like yes, but I don't know. especially in London too with how he. would operate. >> Carl Wentz, we we mentioned Carl Wentz. just being the automatic starter over. there. >> I don't think we should be building a. franchise around Carson W. >> But if it's the London, the London. Lunatics and Carson Wentz is the.

quarterback. >> I I mean, it would certainly fit the. bill, but I I uh. >> good luck. I I think there's so much. that goes into that, honestly. Uh. they'll be able to figure it out because. the NFL is such a successful operation. Yeah, I think you would have to have an. American base, especially for playoffs, you know, like entire playoff. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> You have to do that entire thing. >> That and just like bringing guys like. Yeah. What a guy's going to fly over to. London to work out like, "Hey, sorry you. didn't, you know, sign you.". >> If we get the uh helicopter thing that. just kind of gets us over there in about. an hour and a half, I guess you can do.

anything. >> You're right. >> Yeah. I guess you could work out in New. York and then go have a workout for the. London team, pop down to Mexico City all. in a day. >> Yeah, you're right. >> We need a few years of like, you know, trials, too, with these planes, right? >> Oh, yeah. >> We don't want. Yeah. No win first round. Yeah. >> We're not getting on. They're going to. be rolling those play. I bet you kicker. punter. First on Wednesday they send. >> Mhm. >> All right. Let's see who gets a workout. Long snapper. Kicker punters. Come on. you guys. First over. Let's figure this. out. Scorching out of there. >> Well, and if it's London, we I mean we. might have a like a Bo Jackson situation.

where Erling Holland is kicking field. goals on on a Sunday morning and then. he's going and playing for the EPL later. on. I saw some really jacked dude with. an accent kicked on to Houston Texans uh. training camp, maybe OTAAS. I forget. what it was. I don't know. This guy. should think about focusing on kicking a. football. >> Okay. I don't think he know. Does he. know how much I don't know if he knows. how much money kickers are making. especially missed from I think he hit. from 65 or something like that.

>> I didn't see this. >> I think he was an Aussie. He was a. little far from the ball. Like a little. bit far from the ball. So, we'd have to. move him. I think you would have to get. close. But the way this guy was just. stroking, I do think for the good of the. game, the kicking in foot positions are. the easiest access. That's how we got. Australia. That's how we're getting. Europe a lot of it. I uh I'm excited to. see what the NFL does. Okay, let's pivot. away from the NFL. Let's go to the. biggest story of the NBA yesterday. Um. so the Lakers sold completely. >> Mhm. >> to Bob Iger and Josh Kushner. Mhm.

>> Then no, they didn't actually cuz the. bus family, of which there are six from. my understanding, although they voted. five to one in favor of selling the. final 17.8% of the Los Angeles Lakers. stake that they had. Uh they announced. that they sold it. Congratulations to. us. We just sold this and to Bob Iger. and Kushner. And Sham Sherania was the. one that kind of announced that this. deal got done because I think all. parties thought that deal got done. Then. Jeannie Bus, who is the one in the five. to one, okay, says, "Oh, that's cute.

because you guys aren't even allowed to. do that. Like, I'm the only one really. that matters here. Uh, I am in the the. governor. I am the controlling owner. We. have more than 15% so I can still run. the team. That is the reason why we are. here." And all your votes are void. If I. say no, that's what our dad said in the. trust whenever he left us the Lakers. secession in real time feels like. Joining us now, a man who has been. quoted uh by a lawyer from the Genie bus. camp and also the man who reported the.

5-1 vote uh for the rest of the buses to. decide to sell the rest of the Lakers. Ladies and gentlemen, NBA senior insider. for ESPN, Shan Shri. >> Shams, did I get that right in my. reporting of the reporting? And if I got. any of that wrong, can you please. correct me? And good luck out there. It's hot in the streets obviously for. you, but that's kind of the insider game. I guess. But can you tell us a little. bit if I got that right or wrong in. where we sit on this beautiful Tuesday? >> No, I mean you stated all right. And so.

that's what we know right now. Five of. the six bus siblings voted in favor of. selling the remaining 17.8%. remaining final shares with the Lakers. along with Mark Walter. So there's a. tagalong provision that if Mark Walter. ever sold that they could then as. siblings as part of their uh bus family. trust have the majority votes to then. sell along with Mark Walter. Obviously I. don't think anyone saw it coming that. Mark Walter less than 10 months after.

buying and officially transacting and. closing on that sale of $10 billion last. year would then sell and flip for $12.5. billion. But they invoked the tagalong. provision. So that's a sell of 17.8% at. about $2.27 billion. And so they believe. they have the majority votes to do so. Five of the six bus siblings voted to. sell. Jean's legal team put out a letter. and her inter interpretation, her.

lawyer's interpretation is that she is. the final voice. She's the only voice. and she's clearly willing to bring her. lawyers in. I mean, Genie Bus was the. first female to ever lead a NBA team to. a championship. The bus name, the. family, it's meant a lot to the NBA. There's no question. And so, the. siblings, the other five siblings and. their lawyers believe that it that's not. how the trust works. The trust doesn't. work that way. That there's only one. sole person that ends up deciding, has.

veto powers, has say so over everyone. else's shares. And so what this is. setting up to be is Josh Kushner, Bob. Iger are coming in now as the majority. owners. And now all everyone around the. NBA is waiting to see how does this play. out? How does this work if now Jeannie. Bus is making it very clear that she. wants to stay as the governor and how. does this result with the siblings? First, it's a battle between them. And. how this is shaping up is if the. lawyer's coming out with this with a.

letter like they did last night, it. could result in lawsuits and the five. other siblings have not retracted their. vote. Their vote stands. And so where. does Jeannie Bus and her legal team take. this? Does she take this to the court? My understanding is this could end up. being a legal battle. And I I do have to. say that letter included my name in it. and which I found interesting. And I I. just have to make it very clear like I. fully stand by my reporting. Uh what I.

reported was that there was a majority. vote at least four of six necessary to. be able to close a a transfer as far as. the tag along provision. And I had a. statement from the bus family trust. The. first line of the statement from the. lawyer said that I quote reported the. six bus siblings voted to sell. That key. sentence right there is inaccurate. And. so I fully stand by my reporting. I've. handled every story with care, including.

stories with the Lakers as as that. statement continues on. So that's where. all of this is at. And so only the. siblings, the lawyers involved have. access to what the trust actually says. And so the five siblings believe they. have the majority votes that they have. the 5 to1 majority votes to go along. with the tag along provision. And just. think about it. A year ago, Genie Bus. pushed the sale uh for $10 billion to. Mark Walter. And now a year later, Mark. Walter, who is under two federal.

investigations, has sold uh you know, within a multi-day span to Josh Kushner. and Bob Iger uh at $12.5 billion. And so. the Family Trust believes it's now time. to cleanly exit and and in their words, gracefully exit. But this is now setting. up to be a potential legal battle in the. courts between one sibling, the. controlling governor as of right now, and her five siblings. >> Yeah. So, thank you for breaking it all. down on how we got here and what's going.

on. It is secession in real life. Everybody on the internet was saying. that, but it's real. We all watch that. happen and we all started piecing. together what family that actually is. And now we're seeing this take place in. real time. I hope a good writer decides. to do this, >> not like a bad one. >> Sure. Mhm. >> You know, like when this inevitably. becomes some sort of series, I hope. somebody who's very talented at writing. these does it as opposed to like not. doing it cuz this is uh. >> this is some spectacular American. business pop culture history happening. right in front of our eyes here because.

Jeanie writes, she says that in that. trust it says that she always has. controlling interest of the Lakers, right? And she's saying that's what. she's kind of saying in this entire. thing, right? >> Yeah. And and the focus of that letter. that the lawyer put out was about a 2017. court ruling that she must over her. lifetime be named the governor of the. Lakers. But this battle that's going on. right now, to be clear, isn't about. whether she's governor or not. It's to. sell the remaining ownership shares. It's not about whether she's governor or.

not. But in her belief and clearly in. her lawyers and her side's. interpretation is that as long as she's. the governor, it doesn't matter what. anyone else says. It doesn't matter what. the other siblings says, it's her vote. or not. And it is key to remember, you. know, she brought the deal with Mark. Walter to the table last summer. And. there were I I reported it months ago. and it was reported by other people that. there were multiple siblings that did. not want to go through with that sale.

They believed it was best to wait that. it was not the right time to go through. with the sale. But Genie Bus at that. point and the and the bus family, the. siblings, there was not a majority that. did not want to go through with it. So. they went through with the sale to Mark. Walter. And now, you know, they're. obviously going to fight this. potentially in the courts. >> Not potentially. Yeah, this is going to. courts, bro. This one is going head This. one's headed directly to a court because. if you're saying it's the final 2.27 27. billion. Quick math divided by six,

right, siblings. 378 million. Okay, that's another 378 million after what. came from the 10 billion sale that. already happened there. This one's. headed. >> directly to a court, which I don't think. is great news for Mr. Walter, right from. our understanding this entire thing. He. would like this to kind of get wrapped. up pretty quickly as well from our. understanding of everybody else's. reports. I mean, Mark Walters sold this. so fast and obviously there's a lot of. legal aspects to all of this as well, but you know, Josh Kushner and Bob Iger,

they're coming in at about 65%. So, if. they do get the the remaining about 18%, that would put their valuation uh their. percentage of the team at about 83%. And. so, you know, if you're Josh Kushner and. Bob Iger, you're buying into this team. You know, Josh Kushner, to my. understanding, was set up to be the. controlling owner upon entrance of this. with Bob Iger handling a lot of the. leadership and the day-to-day operations. at the ownership position. And so, if. that's the case, you know, how are you, you know, and Bob Iger went on the.

record saying like they have a lot of. respect for Jeannie Bus and and they. intend to honor the word of Mark Walter. and Genie Bus, but if things change, they'll change to paraphrase. And so, how does this family aspect play into. that? And then when they buy into the. team, you know, if if this is still. being battled out in the court, how are. they handling it? Is Genie Bus still the. controlling governor at about 17% when. they bought in at 65%. And and what's. interesting here is last Tuesday,

>> a Lakers VP of finance actually called. for a meeting to create a new trust to. basically lock down and freeze. everyone's shares through the next four. years, which would line up with the. remainder of Genie Bus's governorship. And the family did not agree to it. From. my understanding, they didn't, you know, I think everyone was caught off guard. like why is the VP of finance, you know, on a random Tuesday trying to lock in. all of the votes or or lock in all of.

the shares of of the team to uh a new. trust. Well, then a day later, the sale. happens. The sale occurs. So, it's. unclear who knew what. and to try to. freeze the shares a day before the Mark. Walter to Josh Kushner, Bob Iger deal. happens. It's unclear who knew what when. that call was made by the VP of finance. to the. >> All right, Sean, we appreciate you, man. Good luck out there, okay? And thank you.

for all the information. Seems like. there's a lot of drama. LeBron is not a. member of the Lakers anymore. >> No, he knew it. >> This is [laughter]. >> got the hell out of town. They would. have been blaming him. >> Oh, seriously. God, could you fathom how. much he if he was still on the Lakers. right now? Like Luca's like uh I just go. out here kind of. It's pretty crazy. They bought a team though for 12.5. billion valuation. Um that has no stad. or no arena. It's not theirs, right? Do. they have a practice facility that they. own?

>> I wonder have to. >> You would assume at least. >> they got the brand. >> Yeah, >> they got the brand. The Lakers for 12. billion. >> Iconic. >> Iconic right now. Now, you know what's. going to be iconic about it? >> Genie bus ain't giving that up. >> No way. >> No way. That's what it feels like. >> Yeah, it's crazy. >> That That's legitimately what it feels. like. Five siblings and this has been. happening for a while. If you read the. thing, there's been some rumblings about. how not happy and we watched the. session. Yeah, we know how different. story but kind of similar angle. It.

feels like everybody wanted that, you. know, from uh the dad, but also the. business and everything like that. So. whenever she gets named governor. automatically it's like a yeah right. dude. So then that whole thing starts. taking place they decide oh we actually. have power now we can vote get this is. going to take forever to set. >> that's basically what happened and Pat. one key thing to also point out. So when. when Jeannie Bus struck that deal with. Mark Walter the siblings kind of had to. fall in line. They went with it. There.

was a deal that she would be the. governor for the next 5 years through. 2030. So there's four more years left. Well, you know what happened in the. ensuing months after that transaction. took place? All of the other five. siblings were terminated and fired from. their role. And now, less than a year. later, five votes against Genie. >> Hey, Bus family. Good luck out there. Honestly, this messy. >> Yeah, this one's going to be loud. 378,333,333.

to each individual sibling would be. what? six piece of the 2.27 billion that. is 17.8% of the 12.5 billion valuation. of the Los Angeles Lakers. That's up for. grab. We appreciate you. Good luck. >> And I just I got to say to all the. lawyers, not I did not report all six. siblings. I voted m I reported majority. So that's the last thing on that. And. also is. >> it's not the lawyers. >> No one knows. >> Oh yeah. Yeah. You're okay. See you.

ladies and gents. Yeah, he's probably doing it and I'm not. dead. So, life is. woke up reading the. >> Oh, no. This is. >> That sounds like a lot of legal ease. right there. >> Talking about me as I was reading that. >> Gentle persons. >> Sh. Yeah, gentle persons. Okay, that's a. group of people. Who could they be. talking about? Uh, sixth word. Shams. >> All right. Sweet. >> It's high. >> This isn't that big of a deal, is it? One, two, three, four, five. Yeah, six. word. Shams. I literally counted that.

just to make sure like, "Hey, I just. want to let you you know that they. wanted to get yours in there as soon as. possible." Sean said, "Hey, I'm sticking. by it, man. I got my reporting and. they'll go through it all.". >> Yep. >> They will go through it all. They're. going to find out. Hey, yeah, don't. delete anything. And also, we're going. to see it all. So, well, I can't give up. my uh my sources. They're like, "No, yeah, it won't be for public. consumption, but we'll definitely go. ahead and look around at that dire. thing." It's $378 million a person per I. mean they could give up. >> $und00 million in lawyer fees, you know,

to figure this entire thing out. I mean, [laughter]. >> wait, Joe Pump tweeted also that there's. a last man standing clause. So, if any. of the uh siblings are to pass away, their shares go to the other five. immediately or whatever. So, >> so that's part of it as well. But they. do have their own uh practice facility. They built one in 2017. >> Okay. So, if you divide 378333. by five now, right? because you got to. split that up into five. >> Okay, that is an extra 75,600.

per. Okay, >> you know, just. >> and not going to the family of the dead. dead sibling. >> Jeez Louise alive. Just saying. I hope they come together. >> Part of it. There we go. There we go. >> A lot of good. >> Put our swords down. >> Come on. There had to be some good times. somewhere. Jeez Louise, man. That got. loud, dude. >> Get the rights to this story. I well I. hope it's somebody good. I really do. because if that gets put in the hands of. some shite writer, you could really make. this a mockery, you know, because there. is a lot of.

>> cartoonish seemingly about the. story. But if we write this thing as a. real thriller, >> you can really get us trapped in there, especially with the latest and I need. that guy on rollerblades. >> Yeah, you're right. >> I need that, you know, show. I need that. guy. >> I think Adam McKay did Succession and. Showtime, didn't he? So if they give it. to him, maybe that might that might. help. like he hey we need you to put. kind of a sweet spot. >> but you're combine those two. >> different spin on it. >> we're all need to different spin on what. >> on the story like I mean obviously the.

real story is awesome but just a out of. left just George RR Martin [laughter]. >> dragons in there. >> there's a chance. >> Game of Thrones twist. >> I mean we don't even know right. >> red house of bus. >> I mean who knows what's actual here who. know I I I hope there's no dragons. >> genie first her name. >> yeah it sounds like you You guys have. gotten into the. >> I'm open. I'm openminded. >> I know. I heard what what was the new. one that they. >> House of the. >> House of the Dragon. Pretty good. >> Very good. >> I know you love it. >> No, Night of the Seven Kingdoms is the.

one we've been trying to push on you, though. That's the most like no dragons, just knights stabbing each other and. >> That was the one I didn't get hooked. >> Yeah. Well, it feels like uh. >> Dunking. >> I feel like I know where I feel like you. like the dragons. >> That's probably why. >> I mean, yeah, [laughter] I like dragons. So do I. I hear you. Um, I watched Tires. season 3. >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> Fantastic. >> Might be their best one yet, I think. >> Okay. >> I think Shane and Matt really really. cooking in there. Available now on. Netflix. I believe it's season three of. Tires. Good for him. I I think after.

season one of Tires, I got a chance to. chat with Shane and I was like, uh, this. could, right? This could be the He's. like, yeah, it's a fun avenue. They've. really found their groove there. I think. it's the best one they got. Have you. seen season 3? >> Yeah, I've seen some of it. >> I think it's I think it's the best one. they got. What a what an angle. You want. a a tire shop, you know? >> Yeah, >> you could really drive. >> Yeah, the amount of things that are. allowed and okay in that world, unbelievable. Congrats to Shane and. Matt, obviously. Way to go, lads. Keep. it going.

>> Stadium to talk. >> Mhm. >> Yeah. Record, right? >> Yeah. Unbelievable. Selling a stadium. just to talk. Chappelle showed up. >> Mhm. >> Absolutely smashed it. Who do you have. play? You had some ridiculous uh. musician. It was somebody ridiculous. God, I should remember. This was a few. weeks back. Whatever the case, congrats, Shane. Tires is a hit, brother. Season. three is your best one yet. Okay, let's. pivot away from House of Dragons and uh. >> it's I mean, it's worth.

>> 36 mafia. Shane had 36 mafia. >> Really? >> Yeah. >> Were they in Memphis already? >> No, Philadelphia stadium. >> Okay. >> What's the connection there? Go. >> I think Shane I think Shane just said, "Yeah, hey man, I played football around. the time whenever you guys really h. Meek Mill obviously came out. Uh the 36. Mafia, but yeah, I remember it being. somebody ridiculous. 36 Mafia playing in. 2026 in a stadium is ridiculous and. awesome. I just like to thank them for. everything." And I was never really a.

Papa Collar guy, but I do respect that. they really changed an entire generation. of people. People had three of them. things. Oh yeah, they did. >> That was outrageous. >> Quite the crossover. >> It was a good time. That was a good time. back in the day. Okay. Uh let's move to. baseball. There's something happening. with a guy in Chicago that we've uh only. seen a couple other times before. Do you. know the war leader? Okay. Wins above. replacement. Has been a 30 for30 guy uh. only two other times in the past. >> I did not. >> 30 home runs, 30 steals. And also the. wins above replacement leader has only.

happened two other times since the. Mookie Bets. Mike Trout. >> Boom. Good company. PCA is on track. right now. For those that don't know. baseball, war is it accounts for your. defense, your running, your hitting, and. if there was uh somebody be taking your. spot. How many wins have you provided. over somebody else playing your. position? Relatable person in your. position. He's currently in a lead right. now. It's absolutely absurd. And then. there's something called a WPA or WAP, I. forget what it is. Uh winning.

probability added. There it is. win. probability added which quantifies the. percentage change in a team's chances of. winning from one event to the next. Okay. Post the sixth inning, seventh. inning and on PCA clutch. We're talking. 31% higher than everybody else in base. This is just at the plate. Okay. So war. basically is a defensive stat, but they. account for what you do on base and how. you run. But War accounts for the. defensive side of it as well. >> WPA is just at bat. this guy in what. he's doing at the plate late down the.

stretching games better than anybody. And then he becomes a 30-30 guy on a. walk-off home run in the bottom of the. tenth in a stadium that isn't normally. good for lefties. Okay. So, in the last. 40 years at Wrigley, what he's been able. to do as a lefty different than. everybody else. It's not an easy park. for the lefties or no lefty has slugged. over 600 at Wrigley in a season in more. than 40 years because the wind comes in. from there. You know, it's not a lefty's. ballpark. BCA says, "This is my. ballpark." And it seems like he's just a. gamer, you know, late in the game. It's. like, we need one. Let's get it. Bat.

flip. Ridiculous scenes last night. Outrageous. Not only on the field, also. in the stands. The Cubs fun story. Fly. that W. >> Fly that W up there in Chicago for the. Cubs. Joining us to chitchat about PCA. and also everything else happening. around the baseball world. World Series. champion. Ladies and gentlemen, 13-year. MLB vet, fourtime Golden Glove, The Haw, Eric Hosman. [applause]. >> What's happening, fellas?

>> Big H. How you doing, brother? >> Doing great, Pat. Congrats on the. banger, man. Hell of an album, dude. >> Come on, Hos. You're going to get killed. for saying that, but I thank you for uh. listening to it and uh for the love. there. Now, let's talk a little bit. about bangers. PCA is outrageous. There. was a time this season where everybody. was calling him the worst human on. earth. He was saying some stuff one. particular line to a lady in the. outfield that really went wild. He was. missing throws on the way back in. He. wasn't hitting well. There was a time. where people were saying PCA was maybe. ass. And I didn't like that. Not one.

bit. Now he's seemingly best player in. baseball. Obviously up for the MVP. against show. What have you seen from. him? Why does this happen with some. players? And will he be able to carry. this. >> all the way through October? >> Man, he he's for sure the most. electrifying player in baseball, man. I. mean, this double right here in the. eighth inning, you see the left fielder. dive to cut that off. I mean, PCA, that's a guaranteed triple. If the. center fielder is not behind him, that's. a home run inside to Parker. Like, he's. electric on the base pass. Pat, you. mentioned Wrigley Field. You see right.

here, right field line, it's 350 down. the lines for the hitters there. So, Yankee Stadium's like 307. Tough. ballpark to hit there. It gets shorter. in the gaps, but that's a big line down. there for Wrigley Field. And then also. in Chicago, ZTO can tell you guys better. better than anybody. It is freezing till. about miday. So to hit at Wrigley Field. early on in the season is very tough. So. I can see PCA riding this out throughout. the rest of the year. And man is it fun. to watch. First pitch homer last night. and then the last pitch you saw a.

walk-off homer. Just electrifying. >> Yeah, leadoff home run for PCA and then. walk-off homer last night to become 30. for30. Uh [clears throat] 30 and 30. And. it it should be a 30 for30 on what PCA. has been through this year and the way. people were kind of talking about him. Cubs have a chance to go uh win at all. this year. Just vibes high cuz they're. saying it's feeling like the lovable. reunion that they were they were having. similar type uh mindset in the Cubs uh. >> dugout clubhouse. >> Oh, >> locker room change.

>> Yeah, you're speaking good bullpin. >> Bullpin all where we hang out. They're. saying it feels like uh similar vibes. though. Is that always said whenever. good things are happening for Chicago or. does this team feel a little different? >> Yeah, the Cubbies though, you're seeing. PCA go from the dugout and he's riding. into the clubhouse there. And the. Chicago Cubs, man, that support staff. that they have, those guys in the. clubhouse, VJ, Danny, I mean, you see. what they do to the lights here. It's. like a party in there, man. So, every. big league win that these guys get, they're celebrating each and every. night. So, the vibes are extremely high.

in Chicago. It's the 10-year reunion, like you mentioned, for the team in. 2016. This team is good, Pat. They they. went and added some big pieces at the. trade deadline. They're very good. defensively. When you look at their. defense up the middle, Danby Swanson, Nicoer, shortstop second base, and then. obviously PCA. I mean, that's the best. in baseball in my opinion. Danby. Swanson's going to be out four to six. weeks. Now, that's a big blow for their. defense because now what that happens, what that does is Nico Hero is going to. move from second to short. They're going. to put this youngster Pedro Ramirez at.

second base. So, their infield defense. is at a little bit of a risk with DNSB. being out, but we're going to see that. tonight play out because Klay Holmes, sinker baller, really pitches the. contact. So, we'll see how much that. affects them tonight especially. >> I like pitching the contact sinker. baller here. You know, he gets the. defense active. You know, the boys. gloves are popping when this guy's. pitching. That's what we're throwing. for. Jesse Rogers, to your point about. Danby Swanson, it's great, too. Oblique. strength, four to six weeks would be. back for the postseason, which is.

obviously when it matters. Everybody's. talking about PCA potentially being, you. know, the MVP, maybe the Cubs win it all. if Danby gets back in there. The team. that uh allegedly has the MVP and also. going to win it all is the Los Angeles. Dodgers. They got a lot of stars over. there. How they pay all of them, >> huh? Is anybody where's all this coming. from? A lot of people are asking that. question. But on that note, Ty has a. question for you. >> Yeah. Oh, this is kind of a two-parter. Uh last time we talked to you, we asked, you know, hey, how concerned are you. with the Dodgers? And it was kind of. like a, hey, no big deal. They've lost a. couple in a row. But Edwin Diaz has.

absolutely stunk. They can't hold on to. a lead. They kind of the the good teams. in the NL are continuing to win and. they're beating the Dodgers. And I know. you're not a lawyer, but uh this whole. Mark Walter situation, do you have any. idea how this could potentially impact. the Dodgers? I saw earlier today that. like if he were to have to sell the. team, Show has like a poison pill thing. in his contract essentially that says. like he can opt out whenever he wants. A. lot of people were saying they won't be. able to defer payments to guys anymore.

So, like the roster as a whole and how. the Dodgers have been constructing their. team could change massively if he were. to have to sell it. So, uh just kind of. go in on the Dodgers and and what you're. you're thinking about them as of right. now. >> And it might save baseball. They're. saying. >> good. >> Yeah. And I tell you what, Ty, I'm. definitely not a lawyer and I just heard. Shams before uh coming on here. It. sounds like Sham's got some big rain. coming and he don't know when. I'm. [laughter] definitely not going to get. into that, buddy. I'm not I'm stay away. from that. But he does have the opt out.

in his in his contract, show Otani, that. if they change ownership, he can opt out. and become a free agent. So, that'll. change the game in a big way. And the. Dodgers obviously, they're getting a lot. of players to have deferred money, and. that's how they're able to spend all. this money they're spending on players. But don't get it twisted, fellas. They're making a lot of this money. because of that man right there, Show. Otani. And this is crazy right here. Think about this fellas. Before we had. YouTube and social media and shows like. you guys that are pushing the game like.

they are, Showi Otani did almost the. same thing last night as PCA. He didn't. hit a walk-off, but he had two homers, four hits, but you kind of forget about. him on the West Coast because we were. just so locked in on the White Socks and. the Cubbies. But to your point, Ty, I. think when you hear Dave Roberts, the. manager of the Dodgers, speak in his. press game or his press conferences, he. is trying to wake up his players, man. Like, you can see he is not happy the. way they're playing. It's one of those. things where it's like, "Hey, we set the.

standard here. We're playing against. ourselves, not the other team, and we're. not playing up to our standard." So, to. hear Dave Roberts say that, that's kind. of that wakeup call before October here, and you can't just turn it on. We got to. be playing good going into October. I. like that your guys' skippers talk to. the team through the media as well. Yeah, because we do that a lot in. football. I mean, every time a coach. goes up there, uh, media member asks the. question and then the response is going. right to the players. Hey, this is how. we're answering this question. This is. how we're responding. This is our. mindset for this week. Because before we.

would even get into meetings, our coach. would speak. Chuck would speak on. Tuesday. Our meeting Wednesday morning. If you listen to that on Tuesday, you. knew exactly what Chuck was basically. going to be saying on Wednesday morning. What's our mindset? How are we talking. about who who's healthy? Who's not. healthy? I like to hear that happens in. baseball cuz I thought those guys just. did a lot of. >> Well, you got to think too, Dave. Roberts, he's on the way to Coopertown. as a manager. He's going to be a Hall of. Fame manager. So, you know, Dave. Roberts, this is probably the third or. fourth time he's tried to send that.

message to his players. Excuse me, fellas. That's probably the third or. fourth time he's tried to send that. message to his players and it hasn't. gotten through. So, him speaking through. the media, that is definitely sending. the message for those guys to wake up. >> Oh, I like you're getting choked up. about it. How could you not get. passionate about this guy's a future. Hall of Fame mage? >> Got to send me a cough button, man. I'm. a big user of the cough button. [laughter]. >> Yeah, me as well, brother. V as well. Uh, we witnessed some history the other. night. Go ahead, con man. >> Yeah, Hazo Joshua Bayas, he hits three.

home runs in his MLB debut. No, I I'm. not completely sure, but I think he's O. for since uh probably the greatest. debut. And also, have you seen kind of. if this is sustainable after the Our. kind of run or is this one of those. things like, hey, guy had the greatest. first game ever and now send his ass. back to TripleA? [laughter]. >> He definitely had the greatest debut. ever, man. Three homers. The first one. he hit 449 ft and then he just did it. all. pulled a change up, hit a breaking.

ball the other way. He's got pop, man. He's got power. When you look at his. metrics, the bat speed, they compare to. John Carlos Stanton and Junior Camro. So, the power is real. He's definitely. going to hit homers. He's long and. lanky, man. As a hitter, you want to. have short arms so you're able to stay. through the zone and you want to get. extended. So, pitchers are going to try. and tie him up in. I think he can hit. homers, but it's going to be hard to hit. at the big league level consistently. with those long arms, man. And he's a. long lanky guy, but he's got some power. for sure. That ball's crushed.

>> Oh, that ball's going inside on him for. the rest of his career. Okay, so this is. just like uh in football, they get a. book on somebody. You know, at the. beginning, you can kind of get. surprised. You can surprise people that. don't really know you. Every pitcher. that is about to pitch to this guy saw. what this pitcher did and said, "What a. idiot. Why that guy? Why are you. putting it on the outside corner against. this guy? And now every pitcher is just. burning the inside zone on bias. So he's. getting choked up on everything.". >> Yeah, >> there you go. You can see there pitcher. the catcher setting up inside. They. missed outside. So he tried to get in.

there and tie him up, but. >> he got those arms. How about the catcher. going? >> We are we are over here, pal. All right, let's go. And then just lets it slip a. little bit outside and it's gone. Good. for him. He'll never see a pitch on the. outside of the plate ever again, though, right? That that's that's what we assume. here, Hos, for the rest of his career. >> Definitely not a fast ball either. They're not going to let him get those. arms extended. >> It was a hell of a first game. Best of all time. Best of all time. He's. going to have to figure out a little. chopper. You know, he's going to have to.

figure that out. Who knows. [clears throat] if he got it. Speaking. of chopper, um you got some incredible. behind you here. I mean, you got a. what appears to be I don't know what the. bats are. The see-through bats. They're. incredible. Gold gloves. >> Got silver slugger. >> Silver slugger. Okay. What's that mean? You hit over what? >> Silver slugger. So they give that. Louisville Slugger gives it to the. highest or the best offensive production. from each position, American League, National League. So that was in 2017. And then the other one far over here,

that's the All-Star game MVP. >> That was in 2016. And I hate to keep. quoting you, your album, and all your. boys, but your boy Reese once said, "You. got to let a naysayer know sometimes.". You know what I mean, Pat? So. >> yes, you do. >> Up there in the background. >> Yes, you do. And that's not the only. thing that's back there. Go ahead, Deep. >> Yeah. I'm always intrigued by the. background, but uh that bottle that's. back there, that Louis 13th bottle, I. was introduced to that unfortunately my. rookie dinner when I was some oldhead. won it. Then I returned the favor. Shout. out Deon McCordi who got me one. But uh.

what what's the story behind that. bottle? >> So that's my boy Daniel Duffy with. Kansas City. We all came up. He got. drafted 2010, 2007. I got drafted 2008. We all played in the big leagues, won a. championship, and then 2017 was our last. year of free agency. And we all played. our last game together. We got to stay. in the clubhouse after. And Duffy got me. that bottle, had all the boys sign it. And it was so cool, man. We were all. supposed to fly out that night and go. back home for the offseason. And we. ended up staying in that clubhouse for. about four or five hours just having.

some drinks. Our wives and girlfriends. came in there and we were just talking. about the good old days, man. >> Hell yeah. >> Hey, good for you, huh? That was a big. part of the problem with our World. Baseball Classic team. >> Yeah. Bingo. >> Yeah. We're hanging out in that. clubhouse till 4:5 a.m. >> the offseason. >> Sean Casey's back on first base. Got a. lot of stories to tell. >> Okay. And then all of a sudden the boys. lose to Italy. >> Yeah. >> Okay. That can't be happening. Hos. >> got to bounce back. That's the lesson. here. You got to bounce back, boy. >> They didn't. >> That's right. You can't hoot with the. Owls and not so with the Eagles.

>> Bingo. >> With the Eagles. That a baby. >> That a baby. >> Maybe Hos should coach the team. >> Yeah. Something to think about. >> Okay. >> You said it, Connor. Hey, that's no. disrespect to to Dro. I know. [laughter]. Well, on this end, on this end, I think. Dro knows it. It's a little [laughter]. It's a little bit. >> He Roman Anthony, by the way, backa AAA. ball or whatever on assignment in. Portland. >> Yeah, perfect. He's playing Triple A and. some of the most important times of the. season. Great. Thanks a lot, Dro. >> Yeah, see that's what you're staring. down if you become the World Baseball.

Classic coach. And uh we would certainly. support you. We appreciate you, Big Haw. >> Appreciate you, fellas. Tell Tony, Tony, I'll take good care of his boy at WBC. next year. >> Boom. >> Guess what? You're hired, hos, you. [laughter] got a job. >> I don't know if we have that power. We. are massive supporters though of the. World Baseball Classic. We would just. like to see none of our favorite players. playing in it. You're the best, ladies. and gentlemen. That's Harry. >> Hosber. >> You are still blaming Dro for a lot of. things. Why don't you people in New. England just be happy for one time? Okay. Roman Anthony had a little bit of.

a struggle. Okay. He's going to get back. healthy. He's going to play even better. The Red Sox are going to go on a run. Also, this football season you guys are. going to celebrate by all accounts Mount. Rushmore tight end of ball. >> Rob Gronowski. Now, here's a dude. Here's a guy who was untackable. Okay. Had a catching. >> wingspan of I don't know 14 feet. seemingly from all the way at his tippy. toes all the way up to when he's on his. tippy toes this way. Caught everything.

Was always open. uh allegedly uh didn't. read much, didn't study a playbook, but. somehow knew where everybody on the. field was at all times, always ran the. perfect route. Him and Tom Brady. obviously did magical things, not just. in New England, but also down in Tampa. Bay. He's the only tight end in the. history to have 10 touchdowns in five. seasons. He did that in his first six. years in the NFL. So, when you talk. about a guy who's just outrageous, Western Pennsylvania, Interscolastic. Athletic League graduate out of Woody. High, uh, obviously from Buffalo. What.

he did to the Colts was a little bit. bogus and I didn't love, but you're. talking about special athlete, special. player being honored, and I think he. deserves every single thing he gets, Steph. >> Absolutely. We started with the GOAT. conversation, talking about Jerry Rice, Randy Moss. Grank is definitely in the. GOAT conversation when it comes to tight. end. What he did as a receiver, unbelievable. what he did as a inline. blocker. A lot of times he was at the. point of attack in the run game, which. is kind of rare for a tight end. Just a. special special talent and a great great. great locker room guy. >> Great vibes. He's always the same. I.

don't think he's ever changed. I don't. think he ever will. And the guy's going. to go down as uh goat. So, congrats. Grunk. Grank. >> Congrats, brother. All right, we're. back. Uh hour two with Shregs, AJ Hawk, and a lot more. Be a friend, tell a. friend. Something nice might change your. life. Take three. >> Three. Rest in peace to the greatest dog of all. time, Father. [music].

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starts its epic run through college. football this season which is. potentially going to be the biggest in. best season yet. The Big 10 obviously. running wild in the AP rankings. yesterday and then in the coaches poll. last week and then Tone will debut his. top 10 here in a matter of moments. But. college football is in training camp. College football is starting soon. College football has a guy named uh. Tyreek Robinson who coach Nardooi is a. little bit worried about if you listen.

to his press conference from yesterday. >> Mhm. >> You know, off the field just little. things he drives me nuts with, you know, like eating fish out of the river. That's not a good thing. >> Okay. So, there's a river, three of them. in Pittsburgh. Obviously, they're all. disgusting. You were told do not swim in. there. and Tyreek Robinson uh who's a. returner wide receiver for pit football. looking to make his name as a wide. receiver this year. He said I'll go fish. for my own my own food tonight. And. coach Nardusi had to tell him how many. hey. >> there's a lot of diseases in there.

Okay, we need not be touching any of the. fish that are in the Mononga, the Alagany, >> right. >> or the Ohio. >> You need to keep your body away from. that water as well. You could be on a. boat maybe. Don't even look at the. water. Okay. don't need that. But that's. the type of stuff that's coming out of. college football. That's the type of. conversation that only happens in the. beautiful sport of college football. Let's go to one half of the hammer. Done. Cowboys AP 10. Do you have Pit on. your top 10 strictly because their. players are eating fish out of waters. that we know you're not supposed to be.

eating fish out of or eating anything. out of? Or did you leave Pit out of your. top 10 because of that? >> No, I I I like Pit this year. U but that. just definitely knocked them down a. notch. Uh they have a great quarterback. OC, but no, you should not be eating. fish out of any of the rivers connected. to Pittsburgh in any way. Uh it is. there's a do not eat advisory in that. situation. So no, pit is. >> do not touch, do not eat, do not look, do not accidentally fall, do not any of. that. That's been since before we were. born. I mean that that is. >> I mean hell's going on in those rivers.

>> Exactly. >> Bacon steel, brother. >> Yeah. >> I don't know. Tell me. >> They got bodies. That too. >> That too. Yeah. I mean. >> that's why you cook it. I don't think I. don't think it worked. >> The Oh, you're the fish. >> Yeah. [laughter] Jesus. That's nine-year. NFL vet Dary J Butler. Thought you got a. different way. Let's go to the doctor's. table at Boston Conor and at Tai. Schmidt. A man who's in an attic in. Ohio's a college football national. champion, Super Bowl champion, Ryder Cup. winner, all-time leading tackler for the. Green Bay Packers, AJ Hawk. >> Hawk Tone's got his top 10. And whether.

or not it's because of their eating. habits, we're not 100% sure. But he's. got you guys at Ohio State, ranked. number two. behind Oregon. Ton, what's the swap for. there? And uh how do you see it shaking. out? Big 10 verse SEC. >> Yeah, the one two swap. Um huge move. there. Obviously, I I think it's just. respect for the guys that have gone to. the NFL the last two years. They've had. 25 guys drafted the last two years, which is insane. Uh not to mention the. guys that were drafted on the defensive.

side of the ball in the last two drafts. and in the top 10 of this uh last draft. in Pittsburgh. And then you have a new. coordinator in Arty Smith. Now, I know. Ryan Day, it's his system. It's his. offensive system. Um, it's just I mean, a very, very little thing. I love Oregon. and their defense and their Dline, and. I'm a big Dante Moore guy. So, I think. it's just very, very, very, very thin. margins right there. Notre Dame has the. most returning production in the country. off of a team that was very good last. year. I know they didn't make the. playoffs, but I'm a big CJ Carr guy. there. Put Indiana at four just because.

I listen, their offensive line is going. to be great. They brought back a ton. there. They brought back a ton on the. Dline. their receivers might even be. better this year than what they had two. coming out of the draft this past. season. Mine is just a Josh Hoover. question. I have to see it before I. believe it with in that situation. He. had some turnover issues at TCU, but. Mendoza wasn't, you know, burning the. barn down coming out of cow either. So, I have high expectations for what Sig. will do with Hoover in that situation. People are a little down on Miami. Um, >> what's that all about? >> Tell them why. Tell them why. because. you know Bane, Meador, Trenches, Mau.

Noah, Markeel Bell, I guess, is tearing. it up for the Eagles out of but. >> we talked to some people. They're very. high on their O line. So, I'm going to. be high on them. And I like Mensah a. lot. Georgia is returning a ton. They're. in the top 10 in returning production. Uh they've won the SEC. Uh Gunner. Stockton's great. I'm good there. Texas, I have a lot lower than a lot of people. have, even though seven's not that low. I'm just going to need to see it. Um out. of Sarkc and Arch and the boys, they. have a ton of talent. And then Texas. Tech was my only team in the top 10 that. wasn't in the AP top 10. They return a. ton and their schedule is an absolute.

joke. >> Yeah, but they, >> you know, they did do that when you guys. are gambling. >> I didn't factor that into my rankings. >> Okay. You didn't say Well, nobody likes. them over there. >> Actually, if anything, it boosted them a. bit for. >> I think bunker mentality potentially for. Texas Tech. Very real. Coach Joey. McGuire's come out and talked about it. Cody Campbell's even come out and talked. about it. It's like, oh, we're the worst. people in the sport. Huh. Okay. Okay. After everything that's been going on in. this particular sport, we're the worst. ones. Okay. Okay. And everybody was.

like, "Yeah, you are. This is the one thing that no, we we can't do." And Okay. All right. Sounds good. And they're in their own. little world over there, you know, down. in West Texas. It is a beautiful campus. It is a beautiful community. And I think. if they harness all this energy properly. that everybody else been sending into. them, they could be even motivating. You. talk about their guys looking like do. David Bailey I guess is maybe best. player on the field for Jets. Yeah, I. think he's over at the Jets or whatever. they're talking about. So, who knows?

Then you got Winad at nine and then. Matir at 10 who they're saying is. bigger, stronger, faster and he was. supposed to win the Heisman through the. first four weeks last season. I like. your top 10. I don't hate it. >> Thank you. I appreciate it. Yeah. And. there's like the 910 there's a group of. like five SEC teams there. Miss, Oklahoma, Alabama, LSU, Texas A&M who. could probably be nine or 10 in that. situation. I just am not going to bet. against Lacy and Winnad and they got a. bunch coming back on the defense side of. the ball. And then Oklahoma the same. Listen, they bring almost everyone back. on offense and then with Venibals.

calling the defense again. I'm very high. on Oklahoma. >> It's not Sorsby playing quarterback for. Texas Tech. >> No, no, no. It's guy from last year. >> Will Hammond beast. >> He played last year though. >> But he tore his ACL so who knows when. he'll actually start. He was very good. >> Very good. >> Then they get second quarterback and. third quarterback in I think. And that. was kind of like the big can a. quarterback play good enough for this. team to be able to go on a run. He was. good though whenever he was playing, but. they don't know. They don't know if he's. going to be back healthy week one even. though they're hopeful for it. >> Yeah. The report was week three I think. >> originally. But now, you know, they came.

out and said like, hey, he's probably. going to be good for week one. Baron. Morton started a lot of the games last. year, but when he was hurt when Hammond. came in, dominated against Utah showed. showed enough for us. They have the 68th. out of 68th uh strength of schedule as. far as power four teams. >> So yeah, there's a good chance they may. go 12 and0. >> Let's see. Do they have West Virginia? >> Okay, >> probably. A lot of talk there about strength of. schedule. You're taking a lot of shots. at a lot of people there. Not. >> that's just stats, I guess. >> And it's not Texas Tech that you're.

shooting at there. Uh AJ, how do you. feel about Tony Dig saying ah State. Buckeyes [laughter]. number two country in the country? Isn't. it crazy that the conversation like I'm. just thinking about the us when we were. at West Virginia preseason whenever we. get started. Yeah. Right. Okay. Nobody's. even in there. We cracked top 25. We. were so pumped. It was like a big. celebration. Then obviously top 10. happens. Top five happens and that just. becomes like the new standard. Like we. got to be there. But people are saying. they're ranked ninth. That's disgusting. It's like there's 135 teams in the.

country. Okay. Ranking the top 10 before. we play any is damn near impossible. And. also some of these teams might not even. be top 50 teams in the country some. weeks, which is what college football is. kind of all about. It's hardact. Yeah, >> but I'm just talking. >> Too much turnover now. There's too much. turnover in college football. Like, how. do you these preseason rankings? I guess. we should have we gone back over the. last five or 10 years and and compared. the preseason poll to what it actually. ended up at the end of the year. I know. there's a lot of people who hate him and. would like to do away with them which is.

why Debut who says that he stole the. idea from somebody. So he introduced it. to us though. >> Do the bowl games at the beginning of. the season. Yep. >> Okay. Do the bowl games at the beginning. of the season. Have the big teams in. there. Then do the rankings off of the. bowl games and don't count those games. towards like the schedule. Okay. So then. you can get premier matchups. You get. premier matchups area and we can say hey. this is the bowl game. You still get a. big the Dukes Mayo Bowl will still be. two big names. >> start players that actually play. >> boom cuz it's going into the season and. then that is the preseason ranking and.

then it goes into the and it can't be. held against you at the end of the. season whenever you're being talked. about for one of the 12 spots. How do. you feel about that AJ? You think that's. a great idea? >> If it can't be held against me, is it. going to help me if I win those big time. bowl games? >> Definitely. Yeah, it's preseason. celebrate the bowl. >> But how does it not how does it not. count against you if it's going to help. you when you do win? Well, preseason. rankings matter because if you start up. high, even if you're not high, uh you're. going to be considered high until you. prove them wrong. Like, you can even, you know what I mean? So, preseason. rankings do matter even though we can't.

really take them seriously because it. feels like you're given a lot more. forgiveness at the top of those things. than if you're like 15 through 25 and. you have a close game. Nah, they should. have beat them by more. But if you're. like a top 10 team, you have a close. game, like they're gonna have to show up. next week. That was a close one. They. got through it, you know? So you do get. a lot more forgiveness I feel like if. you're ranked high at the beginning of. the year just I mean it happened for. Clemson like probably two out of the. last three years at Clemson. This could. be it. This could be it. And they're. giving forgiveness and it's like.

inevitably no they're not. Will this. year be different if LSU. I mean they're ranked down at top 25 for. the first time. >> but like I think they beat. >> they make a statement. >> I think they beat LSU. I think Clemson. is going and I I do not. >> Jerry Rice best football player of all. time. >> Do not tie this take to that. >> including quarterback. But college I think I think Clemson is. going to be good this year. I'm not a. Clemson guy. I'm not a Davo guy, but I I.

have faith in Clemson. >> 11 transfers I believe that they're. going to play. I think he went through. the transfer portal in a big way. I. think they did spend money. First year. not being ranked in what 20 years or. something like his tenure. Uh so he has. a lot to pull from. Oh yeah, >> they're going to get pumped. >> by LSU. >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> Also has a lot to Yeah. They're going to. get pumped. >> Easy. [singing]. >> You're not doing that this year, are. you?

>> No one ever knows, man. No one ever. knows. >> Are you going to call Dan Landon though. and congratulate him? >> Oh, sorry. It's down. >> Yeah, you're right. >> Yeah, you're right. Actually call. a. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You're right. We do. take these. We give that to Ryan Day. He's going to go who? >> We congratulated Ryan Day two national. champions uh ships in the uh preseason. rankings where he was the number one. team in the coaches poll and number one. in the AP. We'll see if coach L they. might be, >> you know. >> Yeah. >> Hey. Hey, we're live. We're live. We're. live. We're live. We're live. We're.

live. >> Okay, you're working. I We're in staff. meeting right now. We just want to Hey, hey, lads. Hey, lads. Hey, team. >> Boys. >> Team. Good to see you guys. Good to see. you guys. >> Got phones available in meetings, huh? Okay. Hey, coach. >> Nice meeting room, >> coach. Very nice meeting room. Congratulations. I saw the new indoor. facility is almost up. You showed me the. blueprints of that. It's ridiculous. Congratulations all the way in Eugene. We just want to let you know, congratulations. Tone Diggs ranked you. the number one team in the country. You.

can stop practicing. [cheering]. >> Poison. poison. >> No. No. You're You won me. Don't even. practice, boys. Leave the meeting. Nothing to do. >> Go. [screaming]. [laughter]. >> I see you, dude. Thank you, dude. Goodbye. Goodbye. Oh, that was. incredible. Their first reaction is just. being like, sh. >> No way do we want to hear that. Okay, that was incredible. I'm happy to hear. that. They're all reacting the same way, all these. >> as they should. >> All right. Well, tell your team though.

at least that we say it. We'd like them. to like us. We've been supporters since. very beginning. >> Fan. flip it. Hey, why don't you flip it. though? Hey, let's prove them right. Like, let's prove these guys right. They. think we're the best team in the. country. Let's go prove them right. >> Yeah. Why? >> That should be flippant. >> I think 18 to 23 year olds don't get. like contender things like that, you. know? So, you know, I I think like. >> nah, that. We're the best team in. the country. >> Yeah. Just show up. Got to prove. You. got to have a lot of moxy [laughter] to. have that team. I mean, you got to have. a lot of maturity to have a team that's. like, "Yes, we are the best team.

>> and now we're going to go work harder. than everybody." That would be crazy to. be able to have. But maybe this. generation has that because they've been. paid since they were little boys. You. know, they've been paid since they're. like 13 years old. These kids, these. kids have been dealing with a lot of. money since they're like what 13, 14, we're learning freshman years of high. school. Crazy. >> They're getting all this cash. It's. crazy. Maybe they are more mature, but I. do like the fact that every coach we've. talked to has just said, "Don't say only. negative, please." And when you say. terrible things about our team, need you. to clip it and send it to us so we can.

show it to our team. They're looking for. that at all times. Let's pivot away from. college to the NFL. a man who is an. insider and an Emmy award-winning. pundit. Uh he's also a host if you need. him. >> That's right. >> Fantastic. >> Incredible host, ladies and gentlemen. Uh Emmy award winner, Peter Shriker. >> How you doing, Shanks? >> Rat poison, baby. Rat poison. I'm in on. Oregon. I love that. That's good. That's. good. >> Hey, you shouldn't just be in on Oregon. because of uh that their You saw their. meeting room there. Beautiful. Their.

practice facility, outrageous. Obviously, everybody knows the Nike. connection, everything like that, but. Dan Lanning's got a lot. I mean, five. stars galore. Their entire team. basically comes back trying to win. >> I genuinely believe this, and this will. be how we pivot to the NFL with this. modern NIL and this modern seven on. seven and this modern flag football that. has kind of captivated the the youth of. America and then into college with the. NIL, them staying longer. Like there's a. graphic we have about the 2023 NFL.

draft. All these guys just hit hit hit. hit hit hit hit hit hit hit hit hit hit. hit hit hit hit hit hit hit hit hit hit. hit hit hit hit hit hit hit hit hit hit. hit hit hit hit hit hit hit hit hit hit. new highest paid new highest paid new. highest paid new highest paid not as. many busts it feels like at a lot of. different positions college football the. talent level has gotten very high. because people have been able to stick. around longer I think they've been able. to handle a lot more and I think the. evolution of ball has just kind of. naturally taken place but I do think. it's making the NFL better. Do you agree. with that with the NIL kind of era. making the NFL better, maybe quicker?

Cuz we're seeing a lot of younger guys. have impact and we're seeing a lot of. these younger guys break records. whenever it comes to what they're. getting paid from teams. Let's take a. look at it. CJ Strad played at multiple. schools, got to his first year with. Houston, had the best rookie season. we've ever seen from a quarterback. Jaden Daniels played at multiple. schools, got to his rookie year, had the. best season we've ever seen from a. rookie quarterback. Tyler Shuck played. at multiple schools, gets to the Saints. last year at the age of 26, and is an. unbelievable rookie quarterback. I think. that the Mendoza storyline is next. And.

we'll see. I mean, you're coming into. the to the league right now and it's. you've been in multiple offenses, you've. played in multiple schools, you've. played for multiple coaches, and you've. been through the business of it a little. bit where I think the quarterback. position primarily. These guys, they. have less of a rope and they've got less. of a run rate because teams are. expecting, hey, you've been through it. You've seen a bunch of offenses. Let's. get you on the field and let's see if. you can do ours. So, I absolutely think. they're more pro ready at the highest. level. If anything, what we lose is the.

chemistry and the union of, "Hey, we're. bringing back all our starters for. another year." Like, I was talking to my. friend Tony, who's a Duke alum, and he. is heartbroken over what's going on with. Mensah, the quarterback who's now going. to be at Miami, and he's taking the wide. receiver with him. And I said, "Yeah, but you took him from two lanes. So, what do you I mean, this is just what it. is right now." So, you lose some of. that, but what you get at the NFL is. these guys are pro ready as they've. never been. And I don't think there's. much room for, hey, let's sit him for. two years so he learns our offense. No,

you've learned enough. Let's go. It's. time. >> Duke suit. I think Duke suit for Mensah. to not be able to leave. He inevitably. ends up winning that and then goes down. to Miami and by all reports. >> he was worth all of it. They're saying. that is what [laughter] everybody is. saying. Yeah. Tell uh Duke Tony that. Uh. thank you. Tony is a diehard Duke fan. and as much glory that they have in. basketball, he was so excited by Mensa. last year and this ACC championship team.

to lose the quarterback and wide. receiver, you would think that forget. all the basketball stuff. We were on the. cusp, but that's the beauty and the. nature of NIL and the Portal. It you got. to strike when the iron's hot. So for my. Duke friend Tony and for all you Duke. football fans, it might be a while. >> Well, they also Riley Leonard, they sent. him over to Notre Dame. You know, Duke's. been doing a good job creating very. smart, great quarterbacks for other. teams. Now, the fact that uh he stays in. the ACC after being an ACC champion and. goes to the other school that almost.

didn't get into the playoffs and then. ends up at the national championship, I. can see how that could be a little bit. of a gut punch to Duke folks. I can see. that. And he certainly fought that. thing. But him going down to Miami, I. think, is a massive piece of why. everybody likes Miami. And uh I'm. excited to watch Mensah. I believe. they're already talking about him being. the best quarterback in the country. There's like 10 of those guys. Trinidad. obviously has a chance. Arch has a. chance. Dante Moore has a chance to be. the guy. And let's not even get started. with the guy that West Virginia has. Please. >> saying. >> Yeah. CJ obviously Carr has a chance to. be the best.

>> I'll tell you on Carr, which is. interesting cuz Pat the list goes on. It's like 10. >> We haven't named a starter yet. Thank. you so much. >> Three guys. Three guys maybe. All of. them going to be great. >> Three. Okay. >> Well, we don't know what we made. promises to which quarterback on who's. going to play what. [laughter] Okay. So, I'm going to stay tuned. Please go guys. CJ, just note West Virginia. Texas Tech. is the easiest guy. Okay. Okay. Sorry. Go back to CJ Carr who I'm a big fan of. and I cannot wait to watch with Notre. Dame this year. >> So, I've got multiple people who are at. the Manning Passing Academy and all the.

top guys are always coming through. there. And I always like to get a good. litmus test of who was the guy and and. apparently Carr blew everybody away at. the Manning Passing Academy, not just on. his play, but was like the Pied Piper. and everyone was following his lead. So, I'm not a Notre Dame apologist. I'm not. a Notre Dame. Like, I wasn't outraged. when they didn't get in all this stuff. But, I will tell you, NFL teams have. their eye on this guy, and he is. probably not getting as much press as. Arch Manning and Moore and some of the. other quarterbacks. But CJ Carr might be.

the guy that we're talking about come. January, February, March, April, NFL. draft first overall. And that just shows. the depth of this quarterback class. >> You talk about the Manning Passing. Academy. Pete Daml just did a like uh. 20-minute thing on the history of it. Uh. over the last 30 years or 20 years, I. forget the amount of years. Something. ridiculous. How many quarterbacks have. ties to the Manning Passing Academy and. how much you know Payton goes back and. stays in a dorm room. >> limited air conditioning. Okay. Him and. Eli and Cooper and the whole family.

staying in his I got invited one time uh. two times. I got once whenever I was. playing and then once post time and uh I. looked into it and I just I couldn't, you know, with the schedule I couldn't. make it happen. I was going to be. staying with three random people in this. dorm. It was like you actually go back. to college for like a weekend and I. think it's only like 120 degrees or. something. >> Yeah, that's it. And uh weather the. number of folks that go through there, go down there, the amount of knowledge, the amount of give back to the. community, the amount of you name it, it's like uh it's a special thing. And I.

I think anytime I've seen Archie, I've. been I made sure I told him like, "Hey, the Manning Pass Academy got to be. pretty sick because he's obviously a big. piece that it's the whole family kind of. buying into it." And uh I love it. I. absolutely love what they do. >> Pat, uh there was a guy Buddy Teanss who. was the head coach at Stanford and then. the head coach at Dartmouth for many. years, but he was at Two Lane. And this. thing really came about probably 30. years ago with Buddy and Archie coming. together and Payton Manning was like, I'd love to go to a camp where we, you. know, we all get the quarterback play.

There's always camps, but there was. never quarterback play. Um, and Buddy, we lost Buddy last year in a tragic. bicycle accident. So, that tradition. continues. And I think there's this like. real connection if you're a Manning. Passing Academy alum where you pay it. forward and you come back as a college. player and then you come forward and the. guys who are the counselors are the. college stars but all the high school. kids that come up like their goal is to. someday be a counselor and then to see. that you have all these generations of. players. It's really a cool deal and the.

fact it is where it is and it's 120° and. it's takes place in July, it only makes. it cooler where like we actually went. through almost like a boot camp of sorts. where we bonded together. So I think. it's one of the coolest things we got. going. >> Yeah. And you say that CJ Car was the. pod piper down there. That I heard one. thing. He has beers with the lads. That. that's what I that is literally what I. heard you say, but I didn't hear you. actually say that. So that made me say, "Okay, okay. I like CJ. I like what he's. doing. Kenny Cook. He is a fighting.

Irishman. So, let's assume that he's. going to have to. >> That's high on your list. Yes. Like if. you had a draft board, if you had a. room, >> your beers with the boys, that's the. category. [laughter]. >> I have I've been very fortunate for the. position in which I was in, >> you know, not physically demanding a. lot. So, I had a chance to go out with a. lot of different groups. Oh, yeah. >> You know, I had a chance to go out with. a lot of different groups. In college, there was different nights for different. groups of the team. NFL, same exact. thing. You know, then I had a little. dust up to kind of shut that down for. about 27 months or so. But I was out. with like every group. And what I.

realized was all the best players. >> were with the lads. Like that is like. even the guys who were super duper. locked in and like let's say not. drinkers or anything like that, they. still would like to be with the lads. Like so my big thing is like if you're. with the lads from my experience, you. are somebody who is uh has a chance to. be elite. If you're away from the Lat. you're going to be good. I I think. you're probably going to be bad for the. team. That's just my. >> the guy who's known for it the most in. the NFL. And not like in a drinking. rockus way, but always how important it.

is to get together and go out after. games. Baker Mayfield's known to be that. guy. And that the offensive line, win or. lose, we're going out afterwards. At a. home game, we're going to our spot. We're going to get dinner. And like you. could see him in town in Tampa and. before that Cleveland and of course when. he was in his other spots. But like. there is something to that and the. connectivity. And when you get away at a. camp like the Manning Passing Academy or. a week like the Combine where you're not. going out at the combine, but. >> hanging with Yeah, that that's that's. >> amongst their peers and you see who's.

the Pied Piper, who's the alpha, who's. the guy. And uh Baker I mentioned. because at the combine that year it was. Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson, Sam Darnold, and to a man everyone said Baker. Mayfield was the Pied Piper. He was the. guy that everyone followed. He was the. guy that was like, "All right, everybody. in our group, the quarterback group, let's get together." That's the stuff. you can't see on film. That's the stuff. you get from anecdotes and you talk to. people. So the Manning Passing Academy, a lot of the stuff for these guys who. were there, yeah, you threw great. You. did all this. Who was that dude? And.

across the board this year, that dude. was CJ Carr. >> Baker Mayfield was that dude. He took. Cleveland to the playoffs and beat the. Steelers in the playoffs. >> That's right. >> And he told him, "Get the hell out of. town.". >> Yeah, they did. >> And now he's back in Tampa Bay. Are they. going to pay him? We shall see. He's. also throwing the ball this year, we. think, to another guy that was hosting. the lads, >> Garrett Green. We know that loud. Another guy who notably likes to hang. out with the team and bring the team. together. Von Miller just signed with. the Dallas Cowboys. Had nine sacks with. the Commanders last year. Nobody saw any.

of them. Okay, that none of us saw any. of them because of what happened with. the Washington Commanders last season. Jerry Jones says, "There's still an. opportunity. I trade for a big star. Don't you worry about that. you always. think that uh Jerry might be working. behind the scenes. How much of this do. you think this was Jerry wanting to add. depth? How much do you think this stops. Jerry from going forward and adding more. on the defensive front? Because we have. a graphic about what the defense uh. looks like post Micah Parsons. It's been. a lot of change, a lot of turnover.

Obviously, we had Von Miller, but Jerry. Te's in another big move. Is that real. or do you think Vaughn filled that gap. for him? >> No, it's still real. I think they're. looking to add as many pieces as they. can if they come available. I will tell. you this, I spoke to Von Miller at the. Super Bowl this year and he was doing. media appearances and I pulled him off. to the side and he said to me he had a. choice last year between the Seattle. Seahawks and the Washington Commanders. and he did the math and did it all and. they had no connection to either team. and he said, "Gosh, Commanders went to. the NFC Championship game last year. I'm.

going to go for a Super Bowl ring, one. more of them." And he signed with the. Commanders and then you saw what. happened with Seattle. I know that. Vaughn had multiple choices this year in. this offseason and teams were inquiring. He chose Dallas. And if you're telling. me he had regrets going to Washington. over Seattle because he wasn't in. contention for that ring, tells me he's. looking to get one more. And if he's. picking Dallas, yes, he's a Dodto, Texas, you know, native. And yes, that's. close and it's in his backyard. But if. he's picking Dallas, he's not picking. Dallas for the money. He's not picking. Dallas because they're on national TV a.

bunch. He's picking Dallas because he. thinks he can win. And I look at this. defense. Last year they played the Rams. in those inner camp practices. Everyone. to a man told me that the Los Angeles. Rams offense with Jimmy Garopppolo at. quarterback just ran through up and. down, did whatever they wanted, threw. the ball over that Cowboys defense. They. did those same practices this year and. it was not a one-sided match. These two. defenses and went together against those. offenses and it was straight up even. and the ones from LA struggled against.

the Dallas defense and the the ones from. the Dallas offense struggled against the. Rams defense. So to me, they're already. just at this point August 15th, light. years ahead of where they were last year. and in that preseason game, Pat, I know. that it was all the backups. Seattle. went right down the field and scored a. touchdown from that point on 49 yards. passing they gave up. And despite a. muffed punt and giving the the Seahawks. four different opportunities in the red. zone, they didn't give up another. touchdown the rest of the way. This.

defense is going to be the biggest. X-factor in the NFL this season. And I. think Von Miller is another piece that. we can plug in and saying, "Okay, they're not going to be bad. They're not. going to be atrocious. At the very. least, we know they're going to field an. NFL defense and that might be all they. need to be competitive and be a. contender in the NFC.". >> Jerry Jones said, "One player is good, four player better." Geez. you know, and. he said, "We need to be able to stop the. run. We need to play better defense.". And last year was the worst they ever. looked. They put the ass in last. But on. that note, there's been a lot of stats. that defenses can go from terrible to.

very good. That is something that can. happen, especially with the new DC that. everybody's talking about being. absolutely incredible. I can't wait to. see Shotty down there with an offense. that's seemingly going to be great, right? George Pickins playing on a. franchise tag. >> Yeah, >> he looks amazing. >> He's playing on a franchise tackle. That. never happens. Especially at a wide. receiver position, especially with. somebody like George Pickkins. Feels. like Shotti's got the culture, right? Doesn't it feel like that as well as a. And they're wanting to run extra sprints. after the practice against the Rams. It's like, are the Cowboys gearing up to.

have a year. >> where we actually have to talk about. them whenever it comes down to real. football season, which is post. Thanksgiving. I think so. And I don't. want to, you know, out too many people, but Shotty was with us. >> Yep. Shotty made it. Shotty made it all. the way to the end whenever we were out. there. Very casual, very comfortable. He. wasn't alone. I think his family was. with him with us. It was what, two, three? >> Yeah. >> Four maybe. >> Arizona time. >> talking ball with Shotty. Shotty is.

obsessed with it. And I think he's uh. the perfect guy for the job right now. >> Yeah. Oh yeah. >> I think he is the perfect guy for the. job. >> I'm hing Shotty. And obviously we've. known Shotty for a long long time. So I. I'm I'm hing him. I mean, every year. coming into the season, you look at the. Cowboys roster and they have the pieces. Now, defensively, there's been question. marks and they were historically bad. last year, but you don't even need to. go, in my opinion, terrible to great. They just need to be middle of the pack. or above average. And with that offense, the weapons, another year of locked in, George Pickkins, we assume, playing for.

some real, you know, long-term money. I'm excited about Daking that offense. >> Me, too, man. Hey, let's go Cowboys. >> Here we go, boys. >> Let's go. >> I'm about them Cowboys. I was going to. say this Christian Parker, I got to know. him a little bit the last couple years. and then I had him on my the Shrager. Hour podcast I do. I had him as a guest. a couple weeks ago. And what's. interesting with him is that his lineage. is it is a rocket ship. He's only 34. years old. So you're like, "Oh, but he's. coached for Fangio. He's coached for. Shawn Payeyton. He has coached with with.

Mike Pton and Matt Laflur. He has been. in the room with Aaron Rogers. like in a. short period. >> when you go from Sirriani Fangio and. then before that you know obviously. Shawn Payeyton for a year and then. before that Vic Fangio was the head. coach in Denver and then the Green Bay. like he's been around a lot of winning. football and now he finally gets to put. his spin on it. I think this guy is wise. amongst wiser than his years and very. rarely do you see a 34 year old. defensive coordinator. Sometimes you get. the young hot shot offensive coordinator.

but I think he's up to the task. He. might be the biggest difference maker in. the whole room because hey, I've won. Super Bowls with Philadelphia. And hey, by the way, I was with the Packers when. we went to back-to-back NFC Championship. games. This guy's the real deal. And I. think he's got the experience that's. going to bleed into it despite his age. >> We got the next guy. I don't know if. you've heard. He's the absolute best. We'll be selling shirts for him actually. week 10 there down there at Jerry World. that will have blinds. >> I did see the World Cup. It feels like. the. >> the sun in everybody's eyes uh was not.

necessarily a good time. I I think. whenever we were able to block it, we. loved it. >> Caleb DS about to be an absolute game. wrecker. Cannot wait to watch that. >> Going from Cooper Dean to Caleb DS in. that slot. >> Think about the Dallas Cowboys are going. to be on national television every. weekend whether we like it or not. Yep. >> Okay. Whether we like it or not. How. much better would it be if they weren't. ass? There's a chance this year. This is the. year. I'm excited to see if it actually. is the case. Or is it another one since.

199? What the last time they made it to. the MFC Championship? >> 96. >> Yeah. >> January 96. >> I wonder if Jerry got that three mile. rig down to that honey hole down there. Let the natural gas that he was looking. to get. >> probably. >> right beneath all our boots right here. There's. >> been quiet. >> trillions of dollars sitting there. I. just got to get to it. Now, on that. note, Miller's coming in and I'm not. done. I'll see you guys next week. He's. the best, dude. So good for the NFL. They're about to go to a national. Ty's.

got a question for that. But before. then, go ahead, K, man. >> Yeah, sure. It feels like the Dallas. Cowboys would be one of those teams that. we looked into it. The last 36 seasons, there's been at least four new playoff. teams from the year before. The Cowboys. would be one of those. The Chiefs, of. course. You know, here are all the. teams. Ravens, Bengals, Colts, Bucks, Lions. There seem to be a lot of teams. that we could see in the playoffs that. Cardinal. >> Cardinals, Jets, probably take those two off. But aside. from that, there does seem to be a lot. of teams that could potentially go on a.

run here. Titans, of course, spent the. most money in free agency. I believe. that's led to three plus wins for teams. over the last few years as well. Who do. you like that missed the playoffs last. year to go on a run, possibly win the. whole thing, or at least get back to the. dance next year? >> Well, I think Detroit was the perennial. favorite, you know, last year going to. the season. Things didn't go their way. They made significant upgrades uh across. their roster where they thought they had. to but then they had some setbacks. obviously with injuries with the center. Kade Maze obviously with the Terry and.

Arnold situation like not ideal yet. I. would have to think after an entire off. season of rebuilding this offense and. the Drew Petting offense and having all. these talented players paid whether it. be Jared Goff whether it be Aman Ross. Stain Brown whether it be Jir Gibbs and. Foxy I I hope you like me again because. last year I said I could see them. missing the playoffs. I could see the. Lions saying, "You know what, everyone? We're our windows not closed just yet. The Detroit Lions making a big push.". And then those other two teams that are. right there in the the first column, I. think Cowboys and Giants both are going.

to be significantly better. So, those. are the three teams in the NFC. And then. the AFC, I'm never dismissing, you know, the quarterback in Kansas City. I'm. never dismissing the quarterback in. Baltimore, and I'm never dismissing the. quarterback in Cincinnati. Those are the. three teams there. Indianapolis is a. wild card, guys. I know you're in their. backyard. I love the Keenan Allen. sighting just like you did, but they. were seven and two and they were in. first place, the one seed and they had. an MVP at quarterback and Daniel Jones. and then things went off the rails as we. know because of injuries. I feel like. there's unfinished business there. But.

gosh, Houston and Jacksonville are. really good in that division. So, those. are my teams I'm looking at. I'm not. dismissing the rest. I just think if. you're looking at them, Cowboys, Giants, Lions, Ravens, Chiefs, Bengals with a. Colts asterisk right there. >> Okay. I like that we're putting the. Colts in the conversation. That's a lot. better than everybody else. Uh to that. point about Jacksonville Jaguars, really. good football team. There's a chance. they take a huge step, especially with. Liam Cohen letting the boys know that. ain't nobody talking about us. Everybody. thinks we're ass. And then down in. Houston, they might have the best.

defense in the world. Uh with the Miko. Ryan leading that. So, it's going to be. a hard out against anybody at any time. And they almost make to the AFC. Championship last year. CJ Strad didn't. have his best games down the stretch. So, we assume they're only going to get. better. I like that you're back on the. Lions good side. You brought up the. Giants there. Obviously, you're a fan of. team as well. A lot of storylines. brewing over there. Go ahead, AJ. >> Yeah, I know you're very close to the. New York Football Giants. What's going. on with with OBJ Odo Beckham Jr.? Is he. going to make this squad? And if he. does, I guess what kind of role is he. going to have?

>> Dude, what an awesome story. I think. this is for everyone who thinks that. their book might be closed, but they. feel like they have one last gasp. Like, I was there at practice last week. He's. running with the third string at one. point. He's in the fourth quarter of a. preeason game running routes, you know, as fast as he can. Guys, he's doing. everything you possibly could ask for. for a veteran who is trying to make the. team. And it's selfless. It's with no. ego. And I think it's maybe my favorite. story of all of training camp across the. NFL, OBJ, whether he's going to make.

this because it's not going to be given. to him. They have a lot of guys trying. out for those last spots in the wide. receivers room. I mean, it's not an. insult at OBJ, but that's where he's at. right now, where it's going to be, can. he make the 53. Um, has done everything. he's been asked, has been working his. ass off, but he is a year plus removed. from being in the NFL. But I think there. is a cool storybook finish to this and. we were all together in March in Arizona. when, you know, it was known that Joe. Shane was taking a meeting with OBJ and. OBJ made the initiative to go to that.

hotel and to go and take that meeting. And I will tell you, the Mara family. absolutely loves Odell Beckham. And I. think one of the great regrets in this. market is that it ended the way it did. He was shipped off to Cleveland and yes, they got stuff in return, but that. shouldn't have been the end of the Odell. Beckham Giant story. think there is a. lot of positivity around this, but to. his credit, he has not said a peep about. playing with guys that probably don't. belong on the same field with him if. you're going historically and playing. fourth quarters of preseason games and.

going out with guys that, you know, maybe a guy with a bigger ego or someone. who said, "Hey, do you realize that I. was in the NFL 100 commercial? Like, I. don't need to be playing with a fourth. string quarterback." This guy has not. said a peep. and in West Virginia was. apparently awesome for the younger wide. receivers, Malachi Fields included. So, the long answer to that, AJ, is that. everyone is rooting for this, but he's. going to have to make the team, and that. is not a sure bet right now. >> As we showed there, Art Stapleton of. North Jersey.com reported yesterday that.

OBJ was working with Jackson Dart a. little bit more in practice. This is the. most amount of reps he's had with the. ones. He also worked an extra scramble, plaster, hammer, plaster for a 40-yard. gain. We did see him shake uh some third. string corner this past weekend in an. isolated shot. He seemingly still has. it. To your point though, Odell Beckham. Jr. is a global superstar. So, the fact. that he's blocking in third, fourth. quarters of preseason games, I think. showcases his will and want to get back. on the team. And Mara watched Saquon.

Barkley leave, too. I think they're. about, you know, done with it all. Let's. go ahead and make some rights here. Okay, let's let's go ahead and try to do. this. Hopefully OBJ is a playmaker. because I love watching him play the. football. >> Who was he with last year? Miami. >> Uh Miami. >> He was at Miami last cup of coffee. Yeah. >> Yeah. For a little bit. >> Played against Colts with Miami, right? >> He was just running track practice. I. mean, they just had him doing track. He. was on Lucas Hall stadium cardio. >> and just had him literally he was just. running goes and then.

>> some the ball would go who knows where. I mean it was the Dolphins last year. Everybody got fired for a reason. You. know, you did say they were going to be. the shocker of the FC along. >> I thought they would. >> Yeah, they weren't. The thing that was. shocking the most to me was OBJ ran. maybe I don't know two miles on Lucas. Oil Stadium and he was nowhere near. getting the ball. I mean, it was go. route, crossing route, go route, and he. was just jogging right back in and then. right back just running laps basically. around Lucas Oil Stadium live in real. time. And I thought to myself, he looks. good. Looks like he's kind of.

>> gliding. He looks great in preseason. If. he can be a weapon for them over there, good for Jackson Dart. What's going on. with him in the blue tank? I'm about. sick of seeing him go in there. >> Is everything okay? Is this guy healthy? Does he does he get up slow? You know, cuz I'm being told about Alec Pierce. that he walks weird. >> Sure. >> So, whenever you look at his his limp or. his gate, it's not necessarily he's. still struggling with his surgery. It's. he just is a weird walker. >> Okay. >> The guy's a bad walker. >> No, plenty of those guys.

>> Jackson Dart might. >> Exactly. Bad Walker talk. >> Terrible Walker. >> and runner. And Walker and runner. >> But when Jackson Dart's down on the. ground chilling, you know, three, four, five seconds or whatever. Is he getting. his play call in getting his stretch in? Nobody kind of understands. It's just. kind of his thing or like what is this. too big of a story? It shouldn't be. Jackson Dart, >> well, it's August. It's August. And I. think he came out himself and said, you. know, if I'm being honest, I know the. NFL is into safety, but like I feel like. I'm almost being I'm going to.

paraphrase, I'm almost being targeted. that now it's if I go down, I'm. immediately going in the tent. And. that's that shouldn't be the case. That. said, if you watched this highlight, Tracy of course misses the block. He's. down there for he looks like he's hurt. So like I don't blame the refs for. saying, "All right, let's get him in the. tent and check him out." So it can go. either way. Everyone's very sensitive. about Jackson Dart and his including. Jackson Dart. He doesn't want to be seen. as this guy that's always in the blue. tent. He also doesn't want to be. described as reckless. So, as he's. working on this stuff for his first. preseason game to end up in the tent,

it's almost like it's comical after this. was the dialogue the entire season last. year. We were told it wasn't going to be. the case. That said, Giants have been. working with him. I don't think this is, you know, something he intends. I'll. never forget though after this play. here, he came out in the press. conference. Everyone thought he's going. to be apol. He was like, I'm not a. soccer player. I'm a football player. I'm like, all right. [laughter] I kind. of like the bite that he's got. Yeah. >> So, it's how do you re in the. recklessness of like I'm going to be. getting injured and we're going to, you. know, to then being like, hey, be. yourself. We need that. Like, we want.

that spirit. We want that fight. Ending. up in the blue 10 is the last place you. want to be. And Jackson Dart knows that. So, there's got to be some sort of, hey, do I want to lie on the ground for 10. seconds after getting hit in a preseason. game? No. But they have to also check. you out if you're going to be doing. that. So, I don't know what's going to. happen here, but it's a dialogue. It's a. point of contention now in August 18th, but we'll see if we're talking about it. in September. We would like to let. Jackson Dart know that we all think he's. tough. >> Yeah. >> Congratulations. You did it. >> I'm not sure anymore because if he's. going to say he's not her and then he's. going to lay on the ground for 10. seconds and I'm going to remove my I.

think you're tough card until later. >> Maybe when he said I'm not a soccer. player, he stole from soccer a little. bit. Thought if he laid down yellow or. red card, >> you know, maybe he thought that was. going to happen cuz it was on Metife. Stadium or whatever it is. So there's a. chance that he got a little confused at. what was going on cuz I assume he was at. the World Cup final there. Uh, but we. would just like to let him know, Jackson, you're tough, man. >> You did it. Jack the box. >> Hell yeah. >> For [applause] the rest of your life, we're gonna say, "Hey, Jackson Dart. >> One tough son of a bitch.". >> Doesn't have to prove it anymore. That's.

really cool of him cuz he's super. handsome. He's got the blonde hair. Everybody's in that going to think this. guy's soft as. >> USC old man. People think he's a pretty. boy. He's not. He's not. >> He's tough. This guy's tough as nails. >> We appreciate he's running people over. You know, he is. Let's remember that. forever when Jackson Dart's name we. should actually start calling him super. tough Jackson Dart and then we'd like to. follow up with that. You already proved. it now. Let's not. >> stay on the field. >> Let's not Yeah. Let's stop. Listen up. Patrick Mahomes last year all of a.

sudden said I want to prove everybody. >> I'm tough. I'm going to start running. people over again. And then he got hurt. I'm not saying he got hurt because he. was running people over. But I didn't. like him just saying I need to become a. tough guy now all of a sudden. You. proved it, Patrick. Tough guy. Patrick. Mahomes. I appreciate you doing it. Stop. taking hits. Stop giving hits. Okay, these are adults out here. running 43 at 275 pounds now. They. >> Joe Burrow, >> this is a real Joe Burrow was I need to. get a hit to get woken up. It's like. tough guy. We appreciate you. >> We We do. We appreciate you. Let's not.

do that anymore cuz an entire city is. kind of. relying upon you being there. And uh we. appreciate how tough you guys are. >> Yeah, we have we have the data. It's not. it's not going to work. We saw, we've. all seen Cam Newton in person. He's one. of the impressive physical specimens. you've seen on the football field and. his body broke down because of the hits. that he took repeatedly. Like, I don't. care how you're built, >> it's a difference. The big boy league. Get out of bounds. We need you. >> And on that note, Jeremiah Love,

>> yeah. >> Hey, we love how explosive you are and. how hard you run, but if you can go. one-on-one with a guy, >> let's take that instead of one on five. every single time. Because guess what? the next run you're gonna be able to. pick up that yard that you might have. just left behind right there is gonna. come. This guy driving his legs and. running the way he was running a. preseason game was awesome. It was. spectacular. I love the effort. I love. the possibility. I love what this season. could be for him. But it's hard not to. just immediately think as somebody who's. watched a lot of NFL football throughout.

my life. I don't know if that guy's. going to survive. And then it comes out, ah, he's got a sprained ankle. He's. actually out for four weeks. It's like, well, at least it's that. Okay. at least. it's like and not like some punctured. lung or you know uh nerve damage from. whatever is about to happen. He's going. to be taking huge shots. We need to know. that running back does take hits but. we're just trying to tell these guys. you're tough. We know you're tough. We. appreciate you being tough. Let's stay. on the field cuz we need you. >> Okay. Especially in daily sports talk.

We need you all to be healthy. >> I kind of liked him doing it. >> I know. >> Be honest with you. I just like the. floor just giving him 40. >> I was going to say giving him 18 touches. right out the jump. That was a little. agree. >> Well, remember he's only rookie. >> Yeah, but think about Laflur watching. him run. This guy's awesome. >> Give to him again. Give [laughter] to. him again. Give to him again. >> Yeah, there was a lot of talk about. Laflur giving him the rock as much as he. did. And I think it's because we all saw. the shots and the hits at the end and we. saw like every single one of them and I. think a lot of Cardinals fans are like, "Do we need to have our guy out there.

that many runs?" And in the floor, new. head coach obviously. So people are. going to question he's setting precedent. with everything. He's a rookie. He. needed the snaps. I know you're probably. tight with this particular. >> I was surprised he did because McVey. never plays the guys and Mike comes from. there and Salah never played the guys. when he was with the Jets. And like. here's Jeremiah Love in a game against. the Raiders in the preseason, but gosh, some of these runs were so amazing that. it got the fan base excited. You hate to. see that he got injured, but if it.

didn't happen in the preseason, it might. happen another game. So, let's get him, you know, healthy and let's see if he's. ready for week one because I need this. guy on the field. He's such an electric. talent. >> Oh, yeah. >> Yeah, we need him. Yeah, we need him on. the field. Jeremiah, we we love you. both. >> There we go. >> Jay Love and Laflur. Jay Love and. Laflur. >> Those are going to be some tough stats. >> Yeah, we got to figure that out. >> every single day. That's going to be. coming at us. Really? >> Sounds like a segment. >> Yeah. Oh, I can't wait to see what you. guys do with that. Obviously, with your. big TV brains. Uh, speaking of big. brains, Roger Goodell says the best way.

to grow this game is internationally. He. said a lot of things to Marcus Go. ahead, Ty. >> Yeah, Shriggs. Uh, we know when you were. on Good Morning Football, you guys went. overseas for a lot of those games. You're a bit of an international man of. mystery yourself. Uh, how would this. work out, you think? How close do you. think we are to potentially having teams. in Europe? And ultimately, I mean, we. were talking about it earlier. Hey, if. they get the Concord, you know, up and. running and you can fly from New York to. London in two and a half hours, we we. might have something here. But how would. this work? Uh, do you think we are.

ultimately going to see this? And are. you in favor of, you know, maybe four. teams in England? >> Well, that's the question. So, in 2007. when they first did the Dolphins Giants. and that game was Eli Manning versus. Cleo Lemon and I remember I covered that. game and it was like 2007, we're going. to London first time. I think Adele said. 15 years from now we'd love to see a. team, you know, in London and that that. 15 years has passed and we don't have a. team. I think logistics. is what's holding it up more than.

anything. It's not fan interest. It's. not stadiums. It's not the time zone. stuff because if I'm being honest, we. now have seven games in the morning. anyway on these Sundays as opposed to. what we used to have just like one. And. I think fans are becoming accustomed to. that on the East Coast and even on the. West Coast. But the logistics of making. it all work is what it is. So the. question is guys, to your point, is it. one team that's there and they play. eight games in London and then they play. eight games, you know, in the States and. we figure it all out or is it a whole.

division of four? So there is a bigger. brain trust than you could imagine. trying to work out all the permutations. and making it happen. But here we are in. 2026. We're all these years later and we still. are trying to figure out the logistics. to make it work. And I think the players. union's going to have a big say in this. And I also think as you start working it. out, the networks are going to have a. big say in this because every time you. put another game on in the morning, and. I know this is like the 30th thing, and. the players don't care about this, but. the media side of it, those NFL pregame.

shows on Fox, on ESPN, on CBS, those are. big sponsors. Those are you're losing a. little bit of that audience every single. time. you're saying, "Well, is it going. to be the pregame show versus an actual. NFL game that's going to be on in this. window instead?" So, there's all sorts. of conversations that have to be had, media, business, but also logistics. How. are we going to make this work so that. these teams can actually compete and. there won't be a competitive advantage. for someone else. >> Yeah, the 9:30 game will always win over. a studio show. Studio shows know that.

But to Shreger's point, a lot of. networks have invested a lot of money so. that their NFL partnership will work. well. I think that is what he is uh. referring to there. So, who gets those. 9:30 games that they're just definitely, >> for lack of a better word, cocking out. of a complete audience uh for what. >> it was the right word. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> That is I used it in proper uh context. I do believe. >> So, [laughter]. >> I think.

>> I think I think it was. >> I think it was improper. I mean, [laughter]. somebody somebody who's much smarter. than I will have to figure that whole. thing out. Uh, we have some breaking. news out of the NFL and Los Angeles. Chargers camp. Freshly signed center for. the Los Angeles uh, Chargers, formerly. of the Commanders and the Dallas. Cowboys, former Remington Award winner. out of Wisconsin, Tyler Bottish, >> is now parted off a joint practice today. with the 49ers. Is it happening already. with Herbert where they did last year.

>> they're not going to be able to keep an. offensive line together? We assume that. this is not that big of a deal we're. hoping for, but anytime you're carded. off of a practice this early. There's a. situation that kind of comes about uh. that you can be oh knowing immediately. upon it. Shrekes, this just broke, so I. don't know how much you know about this, but this. >> I don't know anything. It's brutal. >> Brutal stung last year. Yeah. Joe Alt. and Rashawn Slater were the two top 10. picks that we were saying we're rolling. them out and last year they made the. playoffs without those guys. The thought.

was the strength of this team this year. is inside out. Their offensive line is. absolutely beastly and healthy. This is. terrible and Carted off is awful. So I I. don't know all the details. I'll get on. it after this. But. >> this was a big signing. >> Big sign. Okay, before we get out of. here, we need your brain. Man, that. sucks for the Chargers. >> Snake bit. >> Yeah, that that that sucks. Even if he. misses just some time, like McDaniel's. offense with Herbert with the center. I. mean, that's a lot of man.

>> Here's a little bit more info. Medical. card is out for Charger center Tyler. Bottes, who went down after 49ers. defensive tackle Sebastian Valdez fell. on his left knee during 11, >> reports Chris Rimes. I don't like that. at all. Hopefully, his leg wasn't leg. locked at that time, you know, cuz. that's where the hyperextension can. happen. I don't know how offensive. linemen don't get hurt more. I actually. asked AQ about this because the Arizona. Cardinals guard ended up getting hurt. I. believe. >> Chase Bantis. >> Yeah, he ended up getting hurt because. somebody a tackle got tossed off and. then landed on his leg. It's like that's.

happening. >> at all times. Let alone running back or. fullback coming from behind you as well. as you're trying to drive. I don't know. how they don't get chopped up every. single play. And then AQ told me that. like a trait that you have to have is. like a sense, you know, like and we. talked about. >> go limp. You gota be able to go limp if. you feel pressure like someone behind. you. >> and knowing when people are there I. guess having that sense of feeling to do. that. It's almost like um you know. basketball I watch these NBA guys. they're taking these jumpers and they're. like. >> Mhm.

>> really high in the air. Three guys. around them that's six feet. Okay. Somehow they don't land on everybody's. foot. I go to LA Fitness right now. I go. into that paint. I jump up to shoot. I'm. breaking my ankle on the guy's foot. right now. >> Balls out there. >> Well, yeah. But I think it is also a. sense too of like where I think that is. a a trait that is either developed or. you have to have. >> I got I could be wrong. I think it was. Lis Brown maybe when he was with the. Lions and Foxy maybe back me up here but. like played 20 straight years never. missed a snap. You know Jackie Slater 20.

years from the offensive line position. It's amazing how these guys have the. innate ability to do that. >> Yeah. It's just like at any given moment. at your big ass size. Okay. There's huge. humans could just at that's why they. were all forced to wear those DawnJoys. there for a while. You remember that. they were forcing all these offensive. linemen to wear it and like the athletic. one that used to play a different. position and then got forced into. offensive line. Hey, I can't move. I. can't. This takes away all my Do you. remember those days, AJ? They were. forcing these big guys into Dawn Joys.

They were so pissed about it from my. record. >> Still happens in college. I All my. college buddies that are O lineman, they. they made him wear double knee braces. every single practice even. It's like, is that going to help if a guy doesn't. have the sense of awareness to not get. rolled up on? And also, is it inevitable. for some of these people? Yeah. That. it's just going to happen. Those ones. behind. >> worse. I when they're blocking downfield. and then all of a sudden somebody runs. right up their back and then it's like. your is your knee, your ankle, your hip, is your face. What is everything hurt.

right now? And then they just miserably. get up. my life right back into. offensive line position. It's a It's a. respect that I I have for a position. that I I don't know if I could really. put into proper phrasing cuz they want. no credit. They get their asses beat. They're sore all the time. Some of them. have to put on weight to be bigger like. force eating themselves to do this. entire thing. What? Hey, offensive. lineman, we appreciate you. >> Love you guys. >> We appreciate you offensive lineman. genuinely. And I don't know how any of.

you survive. I don't know how any of you. get through it all. Go ahead. >> They did. uh if if there is a bright. spot, which we hope he's okay. They did. draft a center in the second round. Jake. Slaughter out of Florida who everyone. liked a lot and we should say this was. not at the substation. They are in LA. today. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> I mean getting rolled up at the. substation. He got. >> I mean that's for the year. >> That's unbelievable. All right. We. appreciate the hell of you. Last. question before we let you go. Go ahead. Deb. >> Yeah, you are the uh right I think the. perfect guy for this. I want to get your. gears grinded right now. Uh I want to.

put you on the spot. We had a. conversation earlier. I say Jerry Rice, greatest football player of all time. Quarterbacks aside, even with him. But I. don't want to put you on Well, I am. putting you on the spot. [laughter] Who. is your mount? You. >> said even with them with all players. with all players. Quarterbacks included. Whoa. >> Mount Rushmore. NFL greats. >> Okay. Offand. Here we go. Tom Brady is. in one of those. Okay. >> Of course. >> Jim Brown is in another. >> Lawrence Taylor is another. And Jerry.

Rice is my fourth. Okay, >> good lift. >> I tell you what, you put those four up. against any other four, I think they're. probably winning that. >> Yep. >> On that note, Debbuck just made a little. bit of a change to what he said earlier. He just said Jared Rice best football. player, quarterbacks included as well, I. think is what you. >> This is how I feel. >> I'll tell you the NFL a couple years. ago, Pat, before this whole NFL 100. thing, they ranked him probably at the. 75 year or whatever. And Jiren Rice was. voted the number one player of all time. This is probably like 15, 20 years ago.

So, it's not crazy to say Jerry Rice. 15 20 years ago. >> Yeah. Poor Brady. >> Yeah. CBS did it last year and they had. Tom one and Jerry too. >> Fair. >> I love that Debo. As you were saying. that, Debo was [laughter]. just like I. >> They were looking at me like I had three. heads early. AJ wouldn't hear you. It. was crazy. >> Jerry White. >> Jerry Rice. Hell of a football player, man. Hell of a football player. Give me. Randy. Uh, and then uh give me Tom.

Okay, I'll put Tom up there. I'm putting. Aaron Donald up there. Okay, just. strictly because uh I hope he hears this. and I hope he makes him come back sooner. so we can do that. But I also feel that. way. And then the fourth. Oh, I don't. know. That's a tough one. >> J. >> Yeah, Jerry got. >> Ed Reed. >> Oh, Ed Reed Ray Barry was 10 10 years. >> Taylor did change the game. >> Grunk. I mean, you could even put Grunk. in there even though he only played. what, 10 years or nine years or whatever.

it was. >> Yeah. Which was one of the stipulations. he had, which I would agree with. >> Agree. Long term. Need to play a long. >> at least. >> Go ahead. >> You'll find a fan of a different. generation who will make the case for, you know, a Don Hudson or an Otto Graham. or you go down the list of the guys from. the 70s, all those Steelers teams, all. those defensive players. Mean Joe Green. at defensive tackle. I mean, you can go. a bunch of different ways here. Merlin. Olsen was like an 18 time allp pro or. something. You can go through the history books. >> George played till he's 50, 49 or 50.

years old. You got to respect that. All. right, Shreggs. We know what Debbot's. saying. Now we know what you're saying. We'll have to put ours together. Uh we. appreciate you, Shres. Have an. incredible. >> Merlin Olsson talk only here. [laughter]. >> We have depth. You're the best. Peter. Shreger. >> Awesome. >> Awesome. >> What about old line? You know, Jonathan. Ogden Ogden, Larry, >> bingo. God, Achy Shipley. >> Yeah, >> he's right there. >> He's gonna be so pissed his name was. mentioned there. Oh, thanks. Now.

everybody that didn't hear this entire. conversation is just gonna kill me the. entire time. Love that. That's kind of. the Hall of Fame fringe thing. >> Mhm. >> Like if you're on the fringe, get in. Hall of Fame. All people do is kill you. and say celebrate you. We like celebrate. people. We'll continue to do that on the. other side. Be a friend, tell a friend. something nice might change their life. Okay, I feel like I got it in there. Let's take a break cuz I'm about to piss. my pants and then we got to hit all the. big news stories. Yesterday was just. like scandal article after scandal. article after scandal article on my. algo. What the hell's going on in horse. business? >> Yeah, good question. >> What the hell's going on in baseball?

>> What the hell is going on in basketball? What the hell is going on in basketball? Like two of them. >> Yeah, >> there's been a lot of big What day is. it? Monday, Tuesday. These are supposed. to happen on Friday, aren't they? >> Yeah. >> Mhm. >> I was kind of rolling through all those. AJ, do you see your I don't know how. live your algo was yesterday. There was. a lot of that was like very. important happening and seemingly very. serious in all these different sports. Like what the Clippers story? >> Yeah. Sounds like it's just. >> Yeah. What? >> Oh, >> but then also it sounds like nobody.

knows anything. >> No, it's not. >> No, nobody knows anything. We'll let you. know whenever we find out. >> You're not even talking about the. biggest one. >> Which one? >> Solo turn on the tribal chief. >> I saw that last night. He gave. >> You're unbelievable. >> He did. That's how it ended last night. I was watching it live. >> Who solo? Come on. The bloodline wake. up. [screaming]. >> Jacob Fatu watched Roman and Jay and. Jimmy get their asses beat by Solo in LA. night last night as Jacob Fatu stood in.

a corner and watched just like this. >> He hit him with the thing. >> That sucks. So, that one's easier. to miss. But, [laughter]. I mean, we talked about the W yesterday. So, guys, [snorts]. >> how about the pews? Pew. He's got a little rock in him. >> Huckle, too. >> Stop it. >> Relax. Stop it. >> Relax. >> Big time. Relax. That bone's got a. little bit of the rock in him, too. >> Thank you. >> It's just poop in his pants.

Disgusting [music] what they're doing. >> That was uncalled for. All right. >> It's a respect for the final boss, dude. >> Watch this. Watch this. Watch this. Watch this. This is where it was. Look. Jimmy and Jay setting up LAN night for. No. >> What? >> Yeah. And then he goes into the pocket. here. Wait till he goes into the pocket. as the Jimmy and Jay who are currently. rolling with Roman Reigns and so is. Jacob Fatu. You know, everybody's. shocked. Holy What just happened? Solo Solo just gave him and he goes in. the pocket here. Come on, get in the.

pocket, please. Obviously, we got. Everybody's mind blown. Everybody's mind. blown. [laughter] Everybody's still mind. blown. Okay, it feels like we've been. mind blown enough. Okay. Goes into his. pocket. Pew pews. Jay Uso. >> a gun. >> Jay Uso comes running at him. Oh, throws. him out of the ring. >> Out of here. >> Jimmy comes in. Solo big back elbow. Throws him out of the ring. Jacob Fatu. exits gracefully. >> Stood there. >> Can't believe I missed it. Me either.

>> I caught that live. I bought that live. last night. I went over to Netflix. I. was watching Tires. >> Sure. >> I get out of Tires. It says Raw is live. right now. I'm like, "Let's see what the. going on." Jimmy and Jay are. walking solo out to the rings with Roman. Reigns, right? Literally at this ex. Oh, get on out of here. Back elbow. Bang. Boom. Oh, no. I didn't even I. forgot. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah, man. It was crazy night last.

night, dude. >> That was earlier in the evening. >> Jesus. >> Yeah. Sol's kind of a problem right now. Yeah, I'll say. >> Yeah, they're going to have to praise. hell. >> Yes, he's out of control a little bit. >> Everybody's mind blown. Everybody's mind. blown. >> It was mindb blown. They were for a long. time they were mind. >> Great way to describe it. >> Just know that I think Roman's going to. be pissed that everybody else just kind. of sat there after he got attacked and. just watch Solo hang out.

>> I think they need Titan. Here's them. walking Solo out to the to the OTC. >> Oh no. >> Yeah, cuz he was supposed to fully. commit to the bloodline. You know, cuz. Solo has been wrong while a little bit. >> So, he supposed to fully commit to the. bloodline. Jimmy and Jay escorting him. out to Roman Reigns, our tribal chief. And Roman thought, everybody there. thought it was some sort of game. >> running hot with the Usos. >> He wanted Solo to acknowledge him and. instead Solo right to the. Blarings. >> Yep,

>> man. [clears throat]. >> Dude, Simone Spike, >> sick love. >> What's going to happen next? >> Honestly, >> tune in. I'll let you know. >> No one knows. >> No one ever knows. >> All right, we'll be back on the other. side. We got a lot to talk about, including more from last night's Monday. Night Raw. >> Yeah, >> just the beginning. >> Did you see the beginning? What happened. at the beginning of Raw last night? Cuz. I only caught the tail end there. >> I mean, it was so much. You had Braun. Breaker and OA once break was on. Hey, who's the future? Boom. Then. >> big Oba came out. I mean, you had.

>> Phoenix who. >> you had Michael Baby Kurt Angle. What's. his name? >> Yeah, Chad Gable. >> Chad Gable. He put, you know, got him in. the ankle. I mean, it was. >> I have some respect for banger after. banger. >> We're just slandering legend names. >> Whoa, whoa, whoa. I mean, that is the. ultimate respect. Kurt Angles. Yeah. I. mean, that was one of the greatest. greatest. >> what you said about The Rock, too. I. mean, we need to think about just. thinking about in the angles in which. you need to think about it. Uh, Oba Femi. did a Bronn Breaker impression last.

night. >> Pretty good. He. >> actually nailed it. Yeah, >> he actually nailed it. star. >> Who's the future? Paul. Oba drops out of. his accent straight into that. It was uh. >> Breaker didn't like the fact that Paul. shook Oba's head either. >> Uhoh. >> It's a lot. It's It's a lot going on. It's a lot brewing right now. Everybody's lurking. >> And I don't know if you guys saw what. Grayson Waller did to see him punk down. at that NXT event. >> I missed it. >> Oh, that was That was That was I thought. that might be Oh, that was new. >> Very new. Yeah. >> Was that for shoot? >> What's he doing down there?

>> Oh, yeah. Backstage. >> For shoot. That's what it looked like to. me. It looked like a shoot. >> It looked like it was for shoot to me. >> Yeah. >> You might work yourself into a shoot, too, every brother. >> Well said. >> We kind of got into one of those. >> Little bit. >> Their door mania. That was a fun time. [laughter]. >> Block got real hot there for a bit. >> How many days was that in total? It felt. like an eternity. I think it was only. like 17 days. >> when you were running hot with Randy. >> Yeah, >> that was. >> We were running wild there. Yeah,

>> that was loud. Holy How many days. does it take to get a whole stadium to. flip you off? I can tell you. I did the. research. Takes about maybe a day and a. half. [laughter]. >> What it takes? That was a good time. That was a lot of fun. >> Glad you recovered too in time for the. football season. I was was worried about. >> Well, for draft, remember draft was four. days later. >> Yeah, >> draft is four days later. >> Thank god. I mean, Jelly Belly came. after me. Cody Rhodess hit me with a. crossroads. >> Yeah. A lot of neck wear and tear in.

there, let alone if. RKO already in. >> Yeah, in the brace. >> Doctor already told me you need this to. stabilize your neck. And then Randy. [laughter]. attacks my neck. >> Who could have seen. >> in the Halo next? Halo where I got to. drill holes in your head. >> Yeah, one of those big ones. I thought. that was my future. I thought that was. my future at the time cuz I I got rolled. out of the ring, too. And you don't. remember how high that ring is until. you're falling out of it. >> right onto the ground. >> And as I was falling, I was like, "Oh, no. Oh, that might have really done it.

there. That one might have got me. And I. moved my fingertips and then my my toes. I said, "Okay, it seems like I'm okay.". And then Randy punted Cody right. directly in the head. >> Yeah. But I. almost had to get rid of it. >> It was unreal. >> It was unreal. Tell us how nice it might. change your life. Take five.

You know what [music] to say. good old days on you. >> AJ always like [music] to say the good. old days. We're living up this. breathless stress. God bless. We killing. perspectives [music] of necessity these. days especially. So if you wait, you. should take some [music] time to live a. pleasant dream. Both teams countdown to. one. We're trying to find a national. champion and it starts right here in. Norman with the Hoover.

>> Take a look at that bell button. That's old school. >> Who's that? [music] Who's that? That's. George Straight. Don't you. forget it. >> Boomer. Boomer. I [music] thought was the last team. standing. Oh, >> I hear you wild maniacs going. crazy. You deserve what you earn [music] in. this life. You'll get burned. The world.

turns. You'll be fine. Don't concern. what [music and singing] the earth feel. divine. You'll emerge as the pure telling. shrine. Universe is in [music] first is. on time. You live yours, I live mine. [singing]. >> $1.5 million. >> Yeah, Malachi Tony is an explosive play. waiting to happen. >> Malachi Tony outside. Touchdown.

Miami. shotgun looking to his left. Sweet. [cheering]. with his second pick of the game. >> [music]. >> He said as soon as he saw me wear the. hat, he went shove it up my ass. >> So many [music] people paralyzed by fake. problems. See all the negativities.

impairing all their prophecies. Never. fail, always [music] win. Got to be. philosophy. This life is one and done. It's an actual anomaly. That's why. >> tonight it's Darius Bumble vers AJ Hawk. in the contin. >> he has been able to do whatever he. wanted all year. >> Ke. should have been a North Award winner. Big six, baby. Big time. >> Stop it.

>> Make big time play. >> Keonte Scott [music]. was the stadium. >> All right, Foxy, you better tell me if. you're filming. I do not get content. >> Keep. >> Yeah, buddy. Crimson. >> Got a mismatch over there with Jeremiah. Smith. >> That's where he looks. [music] Jeremiah. Smith catches. Touchdown. This is Texas. >> Touchdown.

>> I caught it. >> Oh, you did. >> Shamar Brown out the front. [music] No. call by Ohio State. Touchdown. Hurricanes. This game is over. The Miami Hurricane. have won the pot. >> Good for you. Good for you. I need Ohio. State. It's time to look. Oh no. >> Cheers all. [music].

Happy New Year. >> Happy New Year. >> Happy New Year, boys. >> It's been a It's been a hell of a year. >> That's why AJ [music]. like to say the good old days. We're. living on this breathless stress. God. [music] bless. We killing our. perspectives of necessity these days. especially. [music] So if you wait, you. should take some time to live a. blessing. Take out identify life. I.

guess that's why. >> a couple times [music] last night I. could have got you with a double leg. >> You're going to get nice and beat up. when I see you [laughter]. in a hers. >> What do you do? What do you. >> when they get in the paint? >> Oh, what a grab. >> What a grab. >> Unbelievable. What a start for IU. Indiana's going to be up by 10 points. against Alabama. Breaks a tackle. [music] Breaks two points. Boom. Boom. Ball. Touchdown.

Omar Cooper Jr. Elijah Sat. Touchdown in. the corner. Touchdown. Hers. walk down the IU [music] bench. Saw. Mendoza. Job well done, buddy. And then. we happen to run into Hey, good to see. you. Good to see you. >> There's some things that [music] USA has. that nobody else does. College football. is one of them. And a B2. stealth bomber is another greatest.

country on earth. No questions asked. I. got a red, white, and boner. I think I. got a little freedom interaction. happening [music] as well. Indiana. different in the Big 10, baby. Yeah. >> That's why [music]. I always like to say the good old days. We're living on this breathless stress. God bless. [music] We killing. perspectives are necessity these days. especially. So if you wait, [music] you. should take some time to live a blessing.

to legends everywhere. Ray Lewis just. unpleas. uh. Miami Hurricanes. Lacy [cheering] being MVP [music]. tonight as he pops one open for an old. miss totally. last play for a two-minute timeout. He. takes a shot to Marier who's wide open.

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>> AJ like to say the good old days. We're. living on this [music] breathless. stress. God bless. We killing new. perspectives of necessity these days. especially. [music]. So if you wait, you should take some. time to live a pleasant double leg at. the natty. It's coming. Double leg at. the. >> crush you buddy. Shotgun kick off six just. Fernando Mendoza spinning it. Touchdown.

Omar Cooper Jr. Fernando Mendoza takes a. shot to Becker. Touchdown. Cooers shake. Rattle touchdown. This ref. incredibly jacked. >> Indiana Hooers are going to the national. championship. So many people [music] paralyzed by fake. problems. See all the negativities. impairing all their prophecies. Never. [music] fail, always win. Got to be.

philosophy. This life is one and done. It's an actual anomaly. That's why. >> win their first national [music]. championship. Ty, what's Sig saying. here? >> Hey, that's BS. Look, he's right under. his chin strap. My [music] quarterback's. not even looking. He's taken around the. map. That is. >> Joyce in the front. He's been out here a. lot. >> Touchdown. Isaiah.

Jones. >> Fernando keeps it himself. [music]. I'm going to run. McDonald's. [cheering]. Carson back from Malachi.

This dude's unstoppable. Can he do it. again for Miami? Takes a shot. [music]. Intercepts it. Jabari Sharp says, "Give me that." And. the Hooers of Indiana are your national. champions [music]. in football. >> Hey, why? >> Let's go.

>> This show sticks. And the fact that you. listen, we are very, very thankful for. you. >> McAfee on the line with a gorgeous. assist. >> The alltime leading tackler for the. Green Bay Packers. You. >> start. Damn it. >> Be [music] a friend. Tell a friend. something nice could change their life. sport. >> Hello beautiful people and welcome back. to our humbly boat. The draft [music]. kings thunder on this big ball Tuesday.

August 18th 2026 hour three of the. program begins now. football. >> is the greatest that is AJ [music] Hawk. the toxic table is here at Boston Connor. and at Ty Schmidt. One half of the. hammer. Dan. >> Cowboys is here. Nine-year NFL vet. Darius J. Butler is here. All the boys. in the back. Great work back there. Yeah. >> Okay, let's go through all the news uh. of the day here as we wrap up this. glorious big ball Tuesday. Obviously, we.

know Keenan Allen signed with the. Indianapolis Colts. We love that. Hey, congrats to the Colts. >> Slayer. >> We need him, AJ. We need this guy. He. played all 17 games last year. Uh. obviously an efficient player. He ranks. amongst only Hall of Famers whenever it. comes to receptions before the age of. 34. The stats are outrageous. The number. feels good for a wide receiver that. we're definitely going to use. Tyler. Warren will be our number one. Alec. Pierce will continue to take the top. off. Josh DS, Caleb DS's older brother. will be in our slot. Keenan Allen will.

be able to work a little bit of magic. And if Daniel Jones, Danny Dimes looks. anything like he did last year at the. beginning of the year, Keenan Allen's. going to feast with the Shane Stiken. offense. I love the signing AJ. Why do. you think this happened now maybe. instead of earlier or later in training. camp? >> I don't know. I mean, I guess with Alec. Pearson, his uh as you guys say, he just. a weird walker, I guess, how he's. walking. They they felt like he wasn't. as far along maybe as they thought he. would be. And I mean, you got an. opportunity to sign Keon Allen, a Hall. of Fame receiver who had a good year. last year and like you said, played 17. games. That's the biggest thing. You.

don't want to sign a guy that for the. last couple seasons only plays five, six, eight games per year. Like the fact. that he's able to play every game. I. think a lot of the things to the off. the- field stuff, the meeting room, the. the little tricks he can teach the young. guys, uh, it's a no-brainer, I think, to. sign him, especially for what, one year, eight, eight half million dollars, something like that. Yeah, why not? >> That's with incentives. That's up to. that amount. So, who know, probably six. million maybe, I don't know, 7 million. maybe with a little over a million. incentives. Maybe 5 million with a bunch. of incentives. And you mentioned what. Debb mentioned earlier in the in the.

wide receiver room, you know, in the. locker room, in the [clears throat] team. meeting room. Having another vet, experienced vet who works his ass off is. obviously a good thing for the culture. as it continues to go. Dut. >> Yeah. When we always talk about being a. pro, uh Dan was talking about yesterday. with uh DJ Moore, just being on the same. page as the quarterback, understanding. the intricacies of the offense, which he. does. He's played with uh Shane Stiken. before. And that for the people that. don't know, that's where players spend. the majority of their time are broken. off into their individual meeting rooms. Team meetings, that's where we spend the.

least time. Unit meetings, offense and. defense, special teams, and then you go. and you break it down within your within. your group. So having a vet like this, almost another coach in there, honestly, to just coach you up. And I I would. assume I'm not in there, but I would. assume Keenan Allen is in a guy who's. like worried about, you know, his role. or where he's going to be, how he's. going to fit in with the team. He's an. OG. He's a vet in the room. So, I love. everything about this. The locker room. vibes are important when you bring the. room. I I reposted a clip I think this. morning. On the opposite side of this, the young guy Deon Witherspoon getting.

paid. And then we saw on Hard Knocks. just the view of him walking into the. locker room and how, you know, everybody. loves, you know, loves his guy and love. that he's getting paid and that lets you. know you either paid the right guy or. signed the right guy. >> To your point there, this is this is the. clip he's talking about. Another episode. of Hard Knocks tonight coming off what. they're saying is one of their best. episodes of all time. Feels like it's. going to happen again. Run this. member salary cap. He's taking money out. of other people's pockets, allegedly, if. that's how everybody on the internet. acts. All. right, coming up down.

You won last [laughter]. time, man. Appreciate that. All my.

members, congratulations. >> Righteous moment. Right. >> Imagine if he that. [laughter]. the the shade, man. I I love that. That. was the team's reaction because I. mentioned it there at the beginning. Salary cap business. So, anytime you pay. somebody the most in the history, that's. obviously dollars going out of the rest. of the roster. Now, if you work for a. company that is like $140 billion uh in.

its total, I don't think it has an. actual salary cap. It just utilizes, you. know, some situations to potentially. change the trajectory of the way they're. headed. But in the NFL and in most. professional sports, there's a cap. So, somebody getting the biggest amount of. money in the history of that position, naturally, you could look at that and be. a little bit envious, uh, a little bit, uh, zealous, a little jaded because that. means what's going to happen to you? Instead, it was the complete opposite. Everybody's incredibly happy for him. Everybody's pumped up for him. They're. celebrating him in the real moment. That. goes to the culture, which also leads to.

the Richard Sherman, Coach McDonald. conversation about how after they won a. Super Bowl, Sherman was talking to Coach. McDonald out there, how guys started. changing a little bit, started looking. at money, who was getting the money, and. McDonald's like, ah, I don't even Yeah, we just work, man. We just we just work. here. And Richard's like, it's vastly. different than what we had or whatever. >> Oh, okay. Yeah, I guess like the way. McDonald views it and the way that. locker room is and the way they played. last year, it's like he has his culture. already in there. seems like he has his. pillar guys in there. Seattle Seahawks.

are going to be a problem for what, the. next 10 years? Yeah. 10, 15 years. regardless here. And that NFC West is. stacked with young coaches who have a. culture in place and also their guys in. place. Good for the Seahawks, man. >> Yeah. I mean, it's great for the. Seahawks as long as they get Sam figured. out. And then the quarterback after. that, yeah, they're going to have a. long, long run. Obviously, Mike Mack. coming from the Baltimore Ravens tree, so he kind of gets an had an idea coming. in of what it's like to win consistently. year in and year out. And then the Hard. Knox has been really really good for. this team. It's it's not good for some. teams. We've seen it happen with the.

Giants in the offseason, stuff like. that, but it's been really really good. for this team. I think everyone after. watching this Hard Knocks has. improved their thought on the Seahawks, even though they just came off a Super. Bowl, so it's hard to even improve your. thoughts on the Seahawks, but they've. done it. >> Kai, Hard Knocks, hard to reinvent. >> Yes. >> Okay. Hard Knocks was kind of hitting. AJ, we all saw it with Hard Knocks. We. didn't like it cuz we loved Hard Knocks, but it was kind of hitting uh, you know, >> big time. >> We're just doing it because we do it, you know, like, oh, Hard Knocks is. coming out because Hard Knocks is coming.

out. Oh, we got a new inseason one. This. one's going to be crazy. And it's like, okay, so we're just watching like uh. digital media from the team's websites. in the middle of the season on HBO. Cool. All right, that's cool. But it. nothing really groundbreaking. The. Giants one, great. >> Awesome. >> Crazy. terrible. >> for the Giants. So, we thought it would. be difficult maybe for them to get. another team to agree to do that. Turns. out, >> yes, nobody wants to do that ever again.

So, them being able to go back to the. well, the training camp hard knocks, the. OG, get the Super Bowl champions. Yeah. >> Okay. So, it's a team that is good at. football at least as opposed to one of. the bums that Sorry, you're still But. that is a big deal though. I agree. But. also the content they're getting, I. think because the Seattle Seahawks. aren't big content players. Like I I. think we're learning about a lot of. their players. I think we're learning. about McDonald. I think it is going back. to the OG days of Hard Knocks here, it. feels like. And I think that's why we're. enjoying it so much.

>> Yeah, without a doubt. And uh part of. that is them being in Seattle and us. just being so far away and not really. hearing about them. But I think a big. part of it too was for whatever reason, for a long time there, Hard Knocks kind. of became just the, hey, let's follow. these three guys who are probably going. to get cut. But like it's going to be. kind of their story of, hey, they're. trying to make the team. That is the. defending Super Bowl champion. So like a. bunch of undrafted rookies aren't going. to be making this team. So that they're. doing exactly that. It's like, hey, let's spotlight these guys who are going. to be big players for the Seahawks that.

we still don't really know, but cuz we. didn't care about that stuff. It's it's. cool seeing a guy, you know, almost make. the team, but then ultimately it's like. we're never going to hear from this guy. again, so I don't really care. Uh. Connor, is there any zany hobbies that. we're exploring this year? That that. became like one of their guys drunk. lessons. Yeah. >> Yeah. Rocks. Guy's got to go charge his. rocks with his dad. Like, okay. >> All right. Shout out to the rock. >> What are you doing in the NFL now? Shout. out to those rocks. They get people. through a lot of times. And hell, if a.

rock is going to make my life be more. positive, I I will certainly roll with. said rock. That's possible if people are. doing that. But I did I do think they. kind of lost the plot a little bit. Yes. >> Yeah. I I I think they uh they were. trying to get things that nobody else. would get. Nobody else will focus on the. fifth string tight end who's potentially. going to become a uh maybe an artist. someday. So, let's tell his story in. depthly whenever we only get one hour. really inside these every single week. I'm happy they stopped with that. You it. seemingly I don't know. I'm not watching. every episode of the Seattle Seahawks.

one. I'm only seeing like clips. I did. watch all of last week's so I don't I. don't know what to expect tonight, but. I'm happy they're done with the zany. stuff just to do it. You know what I And. it's the main players though. Like that. that's the other thing. It's not Kaj the. tight end from Cleveland that didn't. make the team with the rocks. It's. Leonard Williams who has a garden and. he's like very passionate about his. garden and so like they do that. >> So we are doing this stuff. >> Derek but they're stars doing this. stuff. >> Derek Hall the guy who got too close to. Sam Darnold a couple times. He rebuilt.

his massive truck that is absurd size. but he rebuilt it on his own. So they're. still diving in. But that is the thing. like it's Seattle. They they're coming. off a Super Bowl and it's Seattle. Like. last year we've talked about it before. because they're way out there. You don't. talk about them that much. You know, the. Jets, the Giants, the Bears, they get a. bunch of conversation in season during. the season. So when it's hard knocks on. those teams, it's like, well, yeah, we're already talking about them. when. it's Seattle where you don't spend that. much time during their Super Bowl run. talking about them really until the.

playoffs till the end of the season when. they were playing for the one seed like. now with the Hard Knocks I feel like. there's a lot of curiosity about the. team themselves and because now we're. finding out about Mike McDonald Super. Bowl champion head coach and all these. players who are Super Bowl champions. it's like this is awesome diving into. the team even more. >> how much did they sell for 10 billion or. whatever. >> yeah right. >> just sold it for 10 billion win a Super. Bowl sell for 10 billion have hard. knocks. Feels like life's good for the. Seattle Seahawks. Now, we have to talk. strictly for our show because we don't. talk enough about Seahawks either.

>> If there was a Seattle Seahawks fan like. in sports media, I think that would. help. Mina. >> Yeah. >> Mina would be the only rep really on a. daily basis. She's really the only one. in there cuz I mean, we talk about the. Packers a lot because you are a Packers. owner. Obviously, we talk about the. Patriots a lot because you are a. Patriots owner. Not that we wouldn't, especially with how good of a football. team they are, but like Seattle misses, I think on our particular show and other. shows, NFL Live, me and obviously rep, but like I think it misses that. Nobody's like banging the drum to talk.

about the Seattle Seahawks. And they. should though after they watching these. hard dogs, I think this McDonald guy is. worthy of the conversation with the way. he goes about leading and coaching. >> Yeah, without a doubt. And even that. like with Mina, she's like, you know, I. don't pretend to be like an analyst. Like it is very well known that like I'm. a Packers fan. Yeah, I watch all the. games, but like she's on NFL. >> Who else do you like? >> I like the Hawkeyes, you know? Hey, Jeremy raising Heckl Linsky and. Tom Moore is still going into the the. football building every single day at.

3:00 a.m., you know, coaching up. Hecklinsky. And obviously, I love my. Yankees. You know, outside of that, I. >> got a receiver out there. >> This guy, this is the quarterback for. the Iowa Hawkeyes. >> That's right. Raising Hecklack Linsky. >> Yeah. Raising so much heckling. >> Yeah, exactly. So, but what you say is I. don't even uh pretend not to be biased. I mean, you have an Iowa, you have a. Yankees hat on. These are your teams. >> Exactly. >> That you are a massive. >> and she like she's on NFL Live. She. still has to be an analyst. They're talk. they're not just going to devote like, "Okay, Mina, go ahead and and spend 20.

minutes talking about the Seahawks.". Like they're not going to do that. You. afford us the opportunity to do that. when we, you know, so it's a little bit. different. >> when you're feeling a little extra spicy. about Laflur and getting his. >> LF flowers. Right. But I do agree if. there was like a prominent voice like. that who was just a a Seahawks fan like. we probably would hear and talk about. him a lot more. >> Pundit, right? Is that the name? >> Chris Pratt. Adam Ray are the closest we. have. >> Adam Ray I think is a big part like Adam. Ray actually pounding drum for Seattle.

Seahawks on every show he gets an. opportunity. So what we're saying is. Seattle Seahawks need a pundit. Somebody. needs to become a bone. >> Yeah. Sure. Who who are we trying to. push him towards? Tennessee Titans. He's. a Titans fan. Period. He is no longer a. Bills fan. Sorry, Bone. Get get rid of. all your Bill that you bought. You. are a Titans fan. >> Yeah, but Josh Allen's an actual farmer. [snorts]. >> Oh yeah, I forgot that it was a pretty. compelling argument that he gave in. return. So maybe he maybe he should be.

able to sick jersey. >> Yeah. Well, the Titans jersey. Yeah. >> No, no, no. The Bills when he had last. season. I don't know if you guys. remember. >> the worst. Are you talking about the. Josh Allen baseball jersey? >> Yeah, that was one of. >> Yeah, one of one indeed. >> We need to get him a Nickel City Josh. Allen baseball jersey. >> Deion Dawkins one. >> Oh, you already know. >> That'd be sweet. Yeah. And also just. with the Seattle Seahawks conversation, like it's not only us cuz I mean they're. not even the favorites to win their own. division and they're the Super Bowl.

champions. Like that's the other part of. it. like they might be the only I don't. know if they're the only team ever to. win the Super Bowl and then not be the. favorites the year after to win their. division, but like they're they're in. the toughest one. They they have the. Rams who are the shortest odds to win. the Super Bowl, at least in the recent. memory. Like we looked it up, the last. team to win the Super Bowl while going. into the season with the FA being the. favorite was the Chiefs. And they were. plus 600. So they're better odds than. the Chiefs were during the middle of. their dynasty. >> What year was that? That was 2023.

>> That was their. >> That was I think that was their second. going. And then Yeah. And then they they. didn't get the three Pete. So it was the. second one they won uh back toback that. year. Then they lost the year after. >> Are we forgetting about them too as we. pivot away from the Seattle Hawks? Cuz. I'm watching Travis Kelce turn back the. hands of time. >> Shimmy shake. This guy got into it with. Kenneth Walker on the sideline a couple. weeks ago. [laughter]. >> Can't guard that. Travis Kelce's running. down saying, "I've been doing. that to people for 20 years. 20 years. I.

I've been doing that to folks." A lot of. people saying 17 needs to get fired. immediately. I don't like that strictly. because Travis just set that guy up with. a triple deak, bro. I mean, he's been. doing that to guys for a long time. And. also, he has a three-way go on that. particular play, I do believe, is what. the DB is about to say here. >> Yeah, we we were talking about it. earlier with the Keenan Allen sign with. him having the most catches, active wide. receiver, and this guy has more catches. than him. So he's been doing this a long. long time. And if you watch the clip. again, you can just see almost kind of. the intricacies of route running. You.

can see when he fakes the in route, he. turns his head in there as well. And. then just boom. And I mean, watching it, obviously sitting here in this chair. from this mic, it's like, come on, keep. your leverage. If if he does go inside, just chase him out. You're faster than. him. But that is why this guy continues. to get open. That is why the great. continue to be great because when their. physical abilities start to diminish, it's the mental. It's the little small. things that they get better at. So, I. mean I mean this is a he's ran this. route a thousand times, a million times. with Patrick Mahomes. So, he will. continue he can get open on this route.

for another five years if he wanted to. >> Travis looks explosive. He he looks much. more explosive, a little bit more. bouncy, springy this year than maybe. years past. Obviously, it's been a. concerted effort for him to, you know, play how he thinks he should play. football. I think the last couple years. he has thought to himself, we can't go. out like that. We can't go out like. that. We got to keep going. And if he's. going to keep doing this to 20 year. olds, 20ome year olds. Okay. >> Alo. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> All right. So, >> yeah, you're saying. >> I kind of take back what I You You got. to keep your outside cuz [laughter].

running back. I thought this was I I. didn't know Aloi was 17 even though we. did show to Kenneth. >> Yeah. I got in a fight with Kenneth. Yeah. >> Yeah. Uh you got to keep that outside. leverage. [laughter] So, start this one. more time. So, you see him slide. Pause. Pause. Pause. Yeah. So, he right now he. has outside leverage. So, Travis Kelce. knows he has an out route. So this is. bad for Travis Kelce. Outside leverage. versus an out route. Defense wins. So. then he straights him up. Then gives him. a little at the top. Throw the head. inside. Boom. Now he's open. So once his. head and eyes go inside, Gilman's eyes.

go right to the quarterback. Let it. play. Boom. And he's So this is. what uh Coach Gilammer, my former DB. coach, will say. Hey, stop eye. the quarterback and have your. discipline. Keep your leverage. So yeah, Aloy Gilman, he should learn from this, but he's he's too good to get beat by. this route at this point in his career. Hey, Travis Kelce's on the all. everything team forever, you know. And. although he just experienced why the old. dogs been doing that for a long long. time, him running down that side like. going, "Oh my god, [laughter] oh my god." I couldn't even.

imagine around that field. The amount of. Oh, Alohi in the moment understands. what's about to happen on the internet. Oh yeah. And it certainly is uh part of. the dog days of camp. Obviously, this is. going to happen. You have one rep. Remember, he was on the field for two. and a half hours. You have one rep, everybody sees it. And for me, seeing. Travis do this and seemingly been doing. this all camp, it's like feels like. they're in a great headsp space. Nobody's talking about the Chiefs. Posh. Mahome skipping around, they're saying. fresh off that surgery. >> Mhm. >> They got AB back in the building. >> Yep.

>> Yeah. >> That's another one too though where you. look at the odds like I feel we are. talking about because they're so great. Like they have the AFC, you know, the. Denver Broncos went to the AFC. Championship and the Chiefs are still. favored to win the division. You know, it's like it's insane. Now remember on. these future bets too, the sports books. are trying to balance the money. >> Yeah. >> You know, so it might be the betters. that are running the odds. >> Third. >> Yeah. >> That's so disrespectful. >> But that's the other thing with the. Chargers. The Chargers every year we do. it with the Chargers, you know, and it.

sucks that they already got that injury, too. >> Not just that injury. Have you heard. Sher reported? Here's from the joint. practice of the Chargers niners. Good. lead in. It's like you're hosting your. con man. Chef puts out a tweet. It's not. just basic. >> Yeah. [laughter]. He nailed the first time though. >> Be a sush. It's not. >> Tyler. >> I hate that it happened to Tyler because. obviously he just got paid big and. Herbert needs literally offensive line. Linebacker Kyle Canard, wide receiver. huge who's been having a huge camp. Obviously it'll be a big deal. All got.

injured during their joint practices. with the 49ers. And AJ, your immediate. response to this is what. >> I think I said the 49ers are laying the. wood. It sounds like. >> Yeah, it does sound like they're a. little bit more physical, but maybe they. just got unlucky. That is also a huge. part of the entire training camp. preseason is just getting unlucky and uh. hopefully your team gets lucky out. there. Speak about uh getting lucky. So. Jeannie Boss when her dad passed who was. the owner of the Lakers I guess wrote in. that she runs the team and then. everybody else has equal portion of.

something. Okay. Those five got fired. >> Yeah. >> Okay. By Jeanie Boss. Once Genie Boss. sold the company for $10 billion and. kept 17.8%. So they were still making. money off their percentage cuz it was. split, but they were fired from the. building. >> Then it comes out that those five. actually voted, you know what, we're. actually allowed to do this from a tag. along clause brought up. >> They vote, let's sell. If this Walter.

guy sells this, we're allowed to sell. our piece alongside of them. And I. believe Jeanie and the bus family. assumed that this Mark Walter guy would. own at least a piece of this for a long. time and they'd be able to do this. entire thing. Instead, he's getting out. of there as soon as possible. They can. exit gracefully. It's an extra $340. million a piece. So, they vote to say. then Jeanie comes out and goes, "Who. says that you five matter at all? I have. a thing that says I matter and you. don't." So, this is going to get held up. in court forever. Mark Walter I from our.

understanding needs this to happen. quicker than anybody else potentially by. the end of a year. He needs to have some. things straightened out I guess. So this. is headed to the courts. Sham Shirania's. name was named sixth. Sham was the sixth. word of this letter from Jeannie Bus's. council about how this whole thing is. going. Craziness out of the Los Angeles. Lakers. But this isn't even really. the only absurd story. Yesterday it was. reported that Steve Balmer didn't do. anything. >> Yeah, do a damn thing.

>> Steve Balmer didn't do anything. Had no. idea Kawhi Leonard was getting paid by a. tree company. That's his own deal. He's. doing I ain't doing this What are. we talking about? [laughter] Okay, that's what Steve Balmer says. Then it. comes out. Yeah, Steve vindicated. Actually, Steve Balmer had no idea. Then. an hour later, nobody knows. Okay, that's what. the NBA says. We We'll let you know. Okay, we'll let you know whenever we're. done with our investigation with that. whole thing because this obviously is. holding up the Kawhi Leonard trade to.

Toronto because nobody knows if he's. going to be suspended, if Balmer's going. to be suspended, if any of those things. So the NBA yesterday, I would say. cooking with gas. I I would say they. were absolutely. on fire yesterday with news being real, not real. Hey, Steve Bar Okay, we'll we'll tell you if that's real, says the NBA. Hey, the buses have sold. 17.8% 8% of the Lakers are final stake. The bus family is no longer associated. with the Lakers. What a run. Okay, I'll. tell you if the bus it was just.

like yesterday was outrageous in the. NBA. But I guess it's good if you're. talking about it. Is that how the NBA. views this? Is that is that how you. would view this if you're the NBA? That's because that's like the WNBA. >> Every day it's something new that is. just like. >> Yeah. [laughter]. >> thrown in there. But it's like, is it. good to be talking about? I don't like. the NBA news. Is that good that. everybody's still talking about even. though it's chaotic? >> It's better that they're talking about. this instead of uh NBA players gambling. on games. Yeah.

>> Yeah. I think you're saying, "Oh, look over here. Look over here.". >> I mean, is that all situated? Do we have. all that stuff worked out? >> I don't think so. >> There's guys going to court. There's all. kind of things happening. I feel like. >> it is a bit of baseball. Like the NBA is. turning into a bit of baseball. were. like, "Yeah, you talk about the PCAs and. the shows and the great stuff that go on. and then all the other stuff, all the. drama and controversy is just like. unbelievable fodder." Like this stuff is. comedy. The fact that this is happening. right now, >> multiple movies happening, multiple.

series. Yeah. seeding tree company and there's. Marvel mockups of Kawhi Leonard as a. character Groot from Marvel. Like that. is that is hilarious that this is real. >> Yeah. It's a uh and Steve Balmer's like. put it out. Yeah. Yeah. [laughter] Yeah. >> Yeah. >> And then the NBA, this is just like. whenever they agreed to the trade, Kawawaii was traded to Toronto by both. parties. Hey, we're going to do this. And then the NBA said, "Hold on now, Toronto. You might want to know, right, if this guy.

>> Yeah. >> Like, yeah, you guys tell us. We'll tell. you when the investigation's over." So, what are we supposed to do? Yeah. >> wait. >> Nothing. Then big NBA insiders come out. Turns. out Balmer did nothing. Trade back on. in the NBA once again goes, "Hey, un. we're sick of it. We will let. everybody know whenever." How much. longer do they have actually? Is are. they anywhere near being done? >> I mean, what the season doesn't start. until. >> October? >> Yeah, like around Halloween. I mean, obviously you want them to get them up. there, but like it seems like what a I.

mean, we still got another month and a. half maybe that they could drag this. thing out. >> They're not dragging. They're doing. their due diligence. >> They are doing their due diligence, but. I think they can probably get. >> training camp starting in a month. Not. >> okay. So, we got about 30 more days of. due diligence that they can. >> We won't care in three weeks. No, >> no, no, no. I won't care tomorrow. >> Not anything else. >> Nine days. >> It was a big day for them yesterday, though. >> It was. Yeah. >> It was a huge day. Should have maybe. kept that for like Christmas Eve. >> Yeah. >> You know, so then right in a reminder, >> right? They need to move their Christmas. days to Christmas Eve.

>> Mhm. >> They need to do that, >> I think. >> Yeah. But didn't we already talk about. this? And there are NFL games on TV as. well. >> Yeah. Remember, we're giving them Boxing. Day. >> or Little Santa. >> Little Santa. Yeah. December 6th. >> Is that Is that the proper day? >> Little Santa's usually packed. I would. go for Boxing Day. Maybe. >> You don't think the NBA could get in on. Little Santa day? >> No. Little Santa usually booked for the. Prem. >> Oh, okay. >> Oh, that makes sense. >> Starts on Friday. >> So, in America, we're. >> Yeah. So, in America, we're. >> But NBA is a it's a global. >> global game.

>> Yeah. Now, if an NFL team goes to. Europe, which uh Roger Goodell did. mention, multiple international teams, it's going to happen to Marcus. Great story. I would like people to know. that the guy who did the interview, who. can speak very good German, he's big, handsome German lad. Whenever he was. coming out of high school in Germany, he. him and his dad drove around America. dropping off tape of him playing. football. NC State gives him a. scholarship. He gets drafted, picked 239. of the Giants, has a four-year career, has a touchdown. Now he's an ambassador. for the sport. So, he's interviewing. Roger Gell. Project Adele says, "We're. going to Europe, dude. You need to just.

you just need to understand we're we're. doing this. I'm not just saying. this because this makes you definitely. happy right now." And I'm sitting in a. foreign land right now. I'm just telling. you that it's going to happen. Inevitable, I guess. For 35 years, they've been talking about this. If you. go back to whenever the international. team and growth really started, the. logistics seem absurd to me, AJ. I'm not. 100% sure how that's all going to work. out. But if it's going to grow the game, I think we know that the game will do. that. then the NFL will certainly be the. ones trying to do that. >> Yeah, we know the NFL is going to always.

consist they have to find a way to. continue to make more and more money. every single year, but I like we I. wanted to ask Strags. I mean said like. yeah logistically like they haven't. really figured anything out, but do they. have any like are they floating ideas. out there? Are they sitting there. brainstorming, hey, this is how we can. make it work? Because I haven't heard. anything yet that I think is actually. like plausible. I'm thinking that they. have brainstormed into either one per. club meeting or in these league meetings. because remember Jim Ers had a full take. on how they were going over there and. then the Concord plane stopped. So it's.

like they've definitely in their. meetings had their uh conversations and. I think Roger Goodell's big pitch last. contract negotiation with them was like. how do we make more money? It's global. expansion. It's this this. So I assume. it's always been a thing. >> I think they don't they say hey flight. from you know Miami to Seattle that'll. take you six hours anyway. Like they I. think they're going to use that as well. >> Yeah. But boy, if Elon can get us over. to London and just a jip, I mean, that. would be that'd be phenomenal for. >> It's coming, right? In the new Concord.

>> NASA's experimental X59 Quest quiet. supersonic jet built by Lheed Martin. >> Okay. >> Okay. Successfully achieved its first. supersonic flight at Mach 1.1 on Mach 1. >> That's nothing. >> I saw nine or 10. Yeah. went to Mach 10. >> Yeah. >> How he got the government contract. >> Yeah. He landed in the middle of the. >> months. Yeah. I Okay. 1.1. >> Ways to go. >> I [laughter] don't know. I don't know.

how fast we're going to be getting to. England here with just 1.1. Jeez Louise. It is designed to turn a loud sonic boom. into a gentle thump to help lift a ban. on commercial supersonic flight over. land. That's what I was referring to in. the first hour about how these planes I. guess yes if we do get them safely up. into the sky. Who where the are you. flying them? >> They were shattering windows and stuff. in in communities and people were very. very mad about it. >> and they were way up. Yeah, it was just. coming down from holy what's that. like there's Tom Cruz going you know. So.

that's what it's going to take. >> That X59 Quest Yep. >> The NASA experimental supersonic jet. >> when's that done. >> is what we're depending upon. An. experimental single pilot jet featuring. a long 33 foot nose designed to break up. shock waves. A one-3 demonstrator. testing. Watch this short overview. >> I mean, if June 5th was the first like. successful flight, that thing's not. coming to market for a couple years at. least, right? >> So, if it's five years or 10 years, that. would be now would be the time, right, for the Titanic of the NFL to start like.

kind of cooking on this thing, >> planning. How big are these things? cuz. you you moving an NFL team. That's. >> I was going to say it says that thing. the thing that flew was onethird of the. the size of like the commercial. >> This one says it's not meant for mark. market. >> Yeah, the boom XB1 is the direct uh. descendant of the Concord flight. And I. think NASA's kind of prototype is going. to hopefully lead to a technological. breakthrough for the Boom XP1. >> So the Boom XB1 1.7 Mach 1.7.

Now we're getting closer to Tom Cruz. He. was told to stand down and he just kept. pushing forward. >> How about the acting on that? >> So good TC though, you know. >> Yeah, >> he actually doing flying. Don't have to. do a whole lot of acting when you're. actually flying a jet 10,000 mph. >> You're right. I didn't even think about. >> Tom Cruz better watch out. I saw another. one who. >> yesterday. >> Oh yeah, I saw that. >> I know what you're talking about. >> They turned that plane sideways. >> You saw it? I did. >> They did a little tail tail whip.

>> You saw that? >> Yeah. Poor CGI. Terrible. Absolutely. terrible. See, that's the difference is, you know, they'll go do that in. front of a green screen and TC will. get in a a plane that he owns. himself that he maintenances himself and. he'll go up and he'll fly it on. his own with cameras that he installed. himself. He'll turn those things on. before, you know, he goes up. You ain't. seeing that with that goddamn. [clears throat]. under the hood of these things. >> Yeah. That's why anytime you see him in. a garage, he's always tinkering. >> Yeah. Turning around. >> He's always tinkering. always see at the.

movies. >> He's addicted to fixing engines. Yes. He. He's addicted to if he sees one, he's. got to do something, you know? >> Got to If he see if he's walking past. something that has an engine. >> and he is in something that is in like a. garage or a hanger, >> 100% chance Tom's touching that engine. before he's getting out of the. definitely make sure things tight right. here. >> He always carries tools up. >> Always checks the oil. I check the oil. [laughter] before. >> putting the dipstick in. >> Yeah, he would do the entire thing. That's TC football. >> That's right. Not this other schlub.

>> I don't know that maneuver. >> There was two of them. You're right. >> Yeah, multiple. >> I watched it. >> How could you not? >> I don't know their names. >> That's somebody's art though. Or call. sign. >> Yeah, let's remember that. >> Let's have respect for that. >> We don't know their call sign. And. that's part of the problem. Maybe we learn the call sign. We'll be a. little more appreciative of the tail. whips that they were dropping down in. there. Did you see them down in the. valley? >> Oh yeah, I did. >> They turn that thing sideway. And I think they even dipped that thing. back.

>> Did you saw them take that? >> Hell yeah. >> That was unbelievable. They called for. it too in unison. Crawl that thing. >> That wasn't how they sounded though. >> What do you mean how they sound? >> I don't know. You got to be I'm not a. good accent guy. T you know. >> Okay. >> I can do it's a Netflix India. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> Yeah. >> Jerry Jones still open to a substantive. substantive. uh move despite adding Von Miller. Here's what he had to say. Jerry Jones. always up to something, isn't he? He's.

always up to something. Even when he. does something, he's up to something. >> Is it in a substantive trade-off or kind. of like you were talking about the press. conference? >> Yes. Yes. If we had an opportunity, I. would be. >> Is it more of a wait and see thing? >> And it's as much about what I think of. where we are, which I'm more positive. than when we started camp. Seriously, >> about what our chances are. And so, uh, I think if we saw an opportunity to, uh, take a little of the future and put it. on this team, I'd do it if it would help.

us. >> Do you see the league meetings as an. >> If you do, if you do remember, I said I. haven't had eyes on this. football team yet. Now I got eyes on. them. If I, if I see a weak link and I. can go get something, I'll certainly. risk the future for that. Jerry Jones, very active. One last hurrah. You know, he wants to get back to the Super Bowl, obviously. And, uh, no stone unturned. It seems like he's got the guys this. year, AJ. >> Yeah, he does. does. I mean, I saw you. guys post this up earlier. We were. talking about their their roster. I I. don't know. I feel like Shotti I I give. him a ton of credit for what he has. done. Like I I don't know if there's as.

much national attention this year on the. Cowboys. I know we always talk about. every every show has to talk about the. Cowboys every single day. I feel like. they've kind of been under the radar, but actually [laughter] everything that. does pop out is is very positive for. this team, especially with this defense. and with what Dak has been doing. >> You're saying the media gets a script. and follows it. Mhm. >> Is that what you're saying? >> I think so. I think sometimes there. might be some of that. Yes. >> Wow. That's crazy to think about. Let's. go to the Jets. Uh, everybody's assuming. they're going to be ass this year cuz. they've been ass for a long time. Well,

one of their players that is not ass is. out for a little bit. >> Oh, >> Bree Hall will be out two to three. weeks, so he expects to be ready for. regular season opener verse the Titans, says Aaron Glenn talking about the state. of the New York Jets. Not a lot of hope, huh, for the Jets. really. >> hard to have outside the building. >> Buff Buffalo Bills got a new stadium. Patriots were in a Super Bowl last year. >> Dolphins got a new head coach. He. created no block, no rock. I heard them. say that down there. Just feels like the. Jets only combo is Aaron Glenn fired.

everybody. Yeah. And uh they got Gino. Smith at quarterback and that's it. really. There there's really no positive. combo about the Jets at all. Uh is that. accurate or not accurate? What do you. think? >> I mean, I guess we'll see. The only. positive, usually the most positive. thing going into this part of the year. is like a draft class, especially. drafted high. You talked about David. Bailey. He's been good. Um, as far as. our accounts, Omar Cooper, I haven't. heard a ton of great reviews from him, which is another first round pick. And. then Sadiq the Freak, who you look at. him, that's somebody you built in the. lab. I think he's injured. D'Angelo.

Ponds, they're top corner. I think he's. been dealing with something. So, it's a. lot of injuries. You're dealing with a. team that's already not, you wouldn't. put them in the top probably half of the. league when you just look at talent. So, and and we all know, you know, Aaron. Glenn's coming into this year, he's. probably on the hot seat. So, it's not a. lot of good right now, but we always. talk about bunker mentality. So, in that. building, I'm sure is positive as it can. be. But outside of the building, no, they started very low. >> And the building's locked down. Okay. We. didn't know any of those picks. Omar. Cooper Jr. >> Kenyan Sadique, David Bailey, we somehow.

didn't know. It feels like every single. year before you knew what the Jets were. doing before they actually finalized. what they were doing. So, baby steps. here. >> Yeah. Sure, they're going to win one. game, two games. I think one of my. favorite bets, Gumpy pointed out to me, the last team to win a game or for them. to start 0 and6 is like plus 500. Lock. that in. That week, that week one is a. big one. And then. >> I don't know if you listen to Josh. Weinfist about the Cardinals, [laughter]. he says first 11 weeks tough. >> Yeah, that's true. That's true. But I do. feel like before that happens, Jeremiah.

Love is going to run through a brick. wall to get a victory or at least a. touchdown to lose by 30. Still though, Jets not to win a game in the first six. week is great, but baby steps here. They're they're building. Now, will they. have to restart after this year if Aaron. Glenn gets canned if if they don't do. well again? Maybe. But who knows? It's. the Jets. >> Okay, let's stay in uh Metife Stadium, shall we? Naji Harris has been signed to. the New York Giants. >> Obviously, Naj of Alabama and then of. the Pittsburgh Steelers now with the. Giants. They will cut Juju Smith Shuster.

to make room for Naj over there in New. York. Uh, Naji Harris has the. opportunity to be great. I guess it's. just kind of hit or miss on whether or. not he goes, right? Isn't that kind of. the conversation? >> I mean, he had four straight a thousand. yard seasons to start his career with. the Steelers. Uh, they didn't pick up. his fifth year option. He went to the. Chargers last year. I heard his Achilles. or in week two, I believe it was. So, he's coming off of that Achilles. So, it's almost a year uh since then. But, no, I mean, Naj is going to run hard. Harbaugh watched him twice a year for. four years. So, I think he has respect.

for Naj and what he can do. I don't know. if the miss block had anything to do. this with with that, but uh him and Scat. together, good luck. I mean, they're. going for a power run game in New York. for sure. >> And Patrick Ricard at fullback. I mean, that's a whole another conversation. Let's talk about running backs even. more. Kyle Manungi of the Chicago Bears, he'll miss multiple weeks after. hyperextension of the knee after Grady. Jarrett tackle when they weren't in full. pads. This kind of led to the entire. conversation about being a pro and. knowing how to practice. Obviously, Grady Jarrett's a stud. This is. something nobody wants to see. He'll be. out for a few weeks uh with a.

hyperextended knee. Obviously, not the. right way to start a season, but. hopefully he'll be back healthier than. ever, Dud. >> Hope so. We always talk about Caleb. Williams and, you know, Ben Johnson's. great mind and the genius offense, but a. lot of that starts with that run game. and that play action game. So, having. that two-headed monster back there. He. was a big big part of the run game. Kind. of popped on the scene. I know for me at. least, I wasn't very aware of his game, but um I hopefully he's back out there. healthy. You know, things happen in. practice. Sometimes you got to catch. yourself. Grady Jarrett, he is a vet.

He's been in this league for a long, long time. So, I'm sure he hates that. this happened, but hopefully he's out. there and get down running as soon as. possible when the season starts. >> AJ Foxy says the Bears aren't going to. get all the turnovers that they got last. year. Okay, that ain't going to happen. They're not going to do it. A lot of. people are saying they're going to go. backwards. I I feel like we thought Ben. Johnson was a great coach, found out he. definitely is. So, they're only going to. get better in my eyes. AJ, what do you. think about the Bears? >> Yeah, I mean, it is interesting Foxy. saying that. It's true. Like, their. defense definitely feasted on on getting. turnovers. that was a huge reason why. they were successful. So, yeah, I I.

don't know. I honestly I think the uh. the jury is still out as they say. I. think their offense is going to continue. to get better and better. I think it's. just going to be tough to kind of. replicate the the turnovers they got. last year. >> Dan Campbell, the Detroit Lions stay in. the NFC North. He says, "Uh, I'll tell. you what, man. Yeah, right. Somebody's. going to be taking a challenge flag away. from me. Get the hell out of my face.". Here he is. >> No, I'm not. I'm not giving that flag up. to you guys. [laughter]. >> No way. >> Why? Why do why do you want to keep it? Like what's the. >> uh I just look the bug stops me anyway.

I'm answering the questions. So why. would I give to somebody else for me to. answer for somebody else? It's you know. it all comes to me anyway. And uh so. yeah, that's it. >> That's exactly what Shane Stiken said. Shane Stken who is a successful. challenger. I don't know what uh MCDC's. percentage was in that thing. >> It was pretty solid. >> Pretty okay. Pretty solid. I like that. we did the breakdown on coaches throws. versus successful overturns as opposed. to just expedited reviews. Shane Stiken. was like six of eight I think 75% he was. throwing it a lot and getting it right.

We asked him immediately without even. looking into or he thought he said well. it's going to have to get run through me. anyways. So why would we. >> I don't think you'd have to have a lot. of trust for somebody else just to have. that and throwing without asking the. coach's permission. Feels like the head. coach is going to get asked anyway. So. if I'm going to end up getting asked, they're all saying, "Why would I not. just be the one that ends up throwing. it?" I I. >> I wonder who wanted them to change this. rule. Yeah. >> I I wonder who wanted. >> Did someone propose this? Did someone. propose it in the the meetings? >> Somebody would have had to pitch it, right? I mean, somebody would had to.

bring it up. >> cuz who's going to give it up? Have we. heard any coach say that they will give. it up cuz you're true like you're. talking in the headset and the guys are. watching the replay up in the booth and. everything. Okay, should we throw it? We. do. Like why would it you're going to. add another step if it's not the head. coach. >> Yeah. Longer maybe. And you missed the. window because we're trying to get a. play started. I mean, Vrabel, I think, was very clear about if he's going to do. it still with how he threw his in that. preseason game, but I don't I wonder who. pitched the idea that the coach is. allowed to pawn it off on some sorry,

delegated off onto somebody else. >> It definitely wasn't a coach cuz all. these guy like like you said, if can you. imagine if someone just threw one. without running up like that guy would. be shot in the head if they lost that. challenge like? [laughter]. >> Yeah. Legit. I mean, it's just like none. of these co it's not like they have so. much going on that they How many coaches. first-time coaches sometimes like forget. the challenge flag in like the locker. room maybe, but like that's never I. don't think I've ever seen an instance. where when a coach wants to challenge a. play, they don't have their challenge. flag. Like it really it's not like it's.

some burden that they need to do it. Like these guys need to be able to do. it. They're obviously not going to. relinquish that to anyone else. And like. you said, I mean it's like you already. have someone in your ear maybe like I I. don't know. I don't know who thought. that you needed someone else to throw. this. >> I'm gonna tell you, if this was. something that was real whenever me and. Vinnie were playing, we would have been. pitching Chuck to give us the. [laughter] flag. Give us the flag and we. will throw it whenever. Okay. You just. know that this is taken care of because. we're just watching the jumbotron.

anyways. So, if they had a good. jumbotron. operator, which I think in the rules, they have to. I I forget what the rules. are now because you can't get the home. field advantage by not showing it in the. NFL. I think there's some sort of ruling. system that you have to have. Yeah. >> Don't they show whatever the is it what. the ref is looking at or what they. they're putting on TV? >> They're putting best angle or whatever. has to go up onto the jumbotron and. there's a certain amount of time it has. to be shown up there too cuz I guess. rule. >> Uh yeah, >> it has to be because they used to I. listen to them I listen to people talk.

about they home games if it's not good. for your home team you're going to slow. roll that replay. You're not going to. play it right away on the jumbo chill. Yeah, that was a full scheme obviously. like, "Hey, hey, we can wait just like. what half a couple here so we can get up. to the thing and do it." Then they had. to regulate that. They had to like say, "Hey, you have to show the thing." And. then obviously they got more guys up in. the booth now that are able to see every. single thing. So, we have more eyes on. replays than ever before. >> And uh I guess what's being reported in. the back is that Zack Taylor, it's. called a Zack Taylor rule, uh because.

apparently the Bengals head coach was. already doing this. The Bengals hired. Taylor in 2019. Dur his first year on a. job, he decided to let a chief of. coaching staff Doug Rosfeld throw the. flag. That's how the team has handled. things ever since. >> That makes sense. >> What's that from? >> It's the Bengals or the Bengals. >> That's from ESPN. >> The Zack Taylor rule. >> What website is that? >> The I believe it's just Oh, CBS Sports. But yeah, he said it at his his press. conference that they've just been. breaking this rule since he got the head. coaching job. >> Interesting. Never noticed.

Should they be kicked out of off the. tour, Doug? >> Yeah. >> Why would Zach not want to? Okay, now. that could be an owner. >> It's a new school, dude. Move. >> Locked in on calling plays. Is he still. calling plays? >> I think so. >> He's got Callahan back. No. Where's. Callahan at? >> Uh, we just talked about just mentioned. it. >> 10 Giants. Giants. >> He's with the Giants. We have Greg. Roman, Brian Callahan, >> um, Matt Naggie. Obviously, we basically. have like every. >> salty old offensive coordinator you.

could possibly have except for Todd. Monkey because he, >> you know, he's handach. And he still. can't get a guy to block for the. quarterback. >> Yep, that's right. Now we got Naj. >> Now Naj will. >> Naj will certainly. >> stick his face in. >> Naj is a house. Yeah, >> he is a ginormous. >> thick. >> Not that Scataboo isn't and Patrick. Ricard isn't and everything like that, but Naj is a giant. I I I think you. forget about that whenever you're. talking about him. >> More size. They got a lot of girth over. there at the Giants. >> That staff, I mean, >> I think I used the word cuck in the. proper fashion.

>> Did you? And I'm just thinking about the. names we just we just rolled off. Like. that staff has probably been gone after. collectively more than any other staff. in NFL history. You talk about like. internet and like I mean Matt Canada had. a had a terrible run, but that's Naggie, Roman, who calls [laughter]. on somewhere. I mean, even Harbbo was in. the in the the hot last two, three. years like with his, you know, game. management or I know he's big analytics. guy, too, but that staff, I mean,

they've been hard. >> Yeah. Maybe it's a bunker mentality by. the coaching staff. How many coaches. does everybody have. >> a lot? 20ish. >> unlimited. >> Yeah, they changed that, right? >> Because you don't have to. They're. getting paid from somewhere else. They. just come hang out at your place, I. guess, for a season. Kind of learn what. it's like. >> Do they have rules like college does? you know, like college coaches come back. and they're consultants or analysts, but. they can't go on the practice field. You. know, there's those kind of coaches, too. >> Rich Rod was talking when we were with. him during the baseball run for uh WVU. He was talking about how like my first.

run here, I had like 13 coaches all. together, 11 13 people. >> He said, "Now I ever see like 60 there's. like there's like so many people in this. entire thing just because you can have. consultants and obviously you got food. people and you got lifestyle people and. >> advisors. Oh, so many consultants. So. many mentors now. You got a mentor to a. consultant, which is an assistant to a. coach, which is an assistant coach for a. position. It's like, geez louise, if we. just get enough brains in the building, we're going to win. Is that what it is?

Or is everybody kind of counterpacked. each other? Cuz when Rabel was in. Cleveland, they didn't win. Then he goes. up to New England and gets him the Super. Bowl. So what was he doing in his office. in Cleveland all season? >> Yeah. And like Sig, like how many. coaches does Sig have at IU, you wonder? because they've just had the same. >> same staff. >> core the entire time basically. >> Well, somebody left and came back, right? Didn't uh. >> Yeah. Sinceri. >> Yeah. Sinceri leaves. Okay. Doesn't. work. Come on back. Come on back. We. We'll try to win another one here. They. got Shanahan, Haynes, Sinceri, Signetti.

>> That might be it. I don't want a bunch. of guys on my sideline. Okay, they got five coaches. I know what these. guys do. Everybody else can get the. off the sideline. There is their. coaching role as head coach Signetti, defense coordinator Haynes and. linebackers. You're coaching two things. by the way. You got a position group and. the entire coordination. Uh wide. receivers, you got Shanahan and he's. offense coordinator. Sinceri, welcome. back. Special teams and tight ends, not. just doing one job. Yeah, right. Grant. Kane, he's doing that. And then you got. a run game coordinator, offensive line, Bob Bose. Everybody has multiple jobs.

here. Okay. Everybody, everybody's. coaching multiple things. And from our. understanding, Sig coaches them. >> Yes. And then they coach the players. Like if Sig's talking to the player, it's like something of grave importance. or of necessity. Other than that, it's. the lads doing the coaching and he's on. the ash of the coaches on why is this. happening? Why is this not happening? He. has an interesting form of leadership. And I think having the continuity of all. his boys stick with him, I think is a.

huge part of Indiana success, which is. why we should assume and everybody's. assuming they're going to be great. again. Like that is kind of just the. assumption at this point. And also. probably why these guys are willing to. stay and not just go look for a head. coaching job because they like they they. don't feel like they're micromanaged. It's like you actually get to coach. You. don't have to go seek a head coaching. job somewhere because you have a guy who. still is pretty much doing everything. and you just have a title. >> And uh can the kid spin it, Hoover? >> He can definitely spin it.

>> Is Indiana going back to back? There's a. nasty decent chance. >> until further notice. >> Well, the town's got Oregon number one. >> Mhm. >> I mean, those. >> a high state number two. >> Those top seven are very, very nitpicky. >> Indiana isn't even the best team in. Indiana in Tone's eyes. >> That's. >> Yeah. >> Let alone in the Big 10. >> Mhm. >> That's Tone. >> They're only in my power ranks, they're. only a point.1 off each other. >> Okay. We didn't see the exact score.

>> Who was number one in your power. rankings? It was actually the Buckeyes. >> So you said I'm gonna override my power? >> I did actually. >> You just couldn't see it with the. Buckeyes. eye test. I love. >> Listen, I think they're gonna have the. best offense in the country to start the. year for sure. >> Do you see Chris Henry? >> Yeah. >> Freak. >> Yeah, Chris Henry Jr. is doing workouts. We're not even talking about Jeremiah. Smith off. >> Their entire offense is back. So how. that's not going to get worse. >> And they added Chris Henry Jr. >> Yes. >> Who is another. >> Yeah. 68. >> Probably fell right in for Carnell.

>> Boom. My brain is just like. >> just feels like that would hurt so bad. >> Well, to the average, the Slim Jr. Yeah, right. His joints. were made for it, guys. Remember, he's. been training with Pac Pac-Man. What? 42. or whatever. >> Pac Pac-Man Jones ran like a 42. >> He's been training with him his whole. life, you know, pretty much. And his. dad's jeans, >> like his dad. >> outrageously athletic. His mom us I.

believe big strong as well. I think his. entire family massive obviously athletes. but like committed to being athletes as. well like whole life. So. >> those are the workouts right there. The. last one those plyometrics like that's. that's the cheat code. >> Yeah. Stop explode. Also can your all. the tiny muscles handle you full go to. stop and it's like that kid's 18. Good luck, Art. >> Yeah, >> Art's got that offense.

>> That's gonna be. it up. >> I'm very excited for that. >> Me, too. >> Now, a couple years ago, he did it with. Chip. Um, and Chip was an established OC. and it worked out great. They won a. national championship. And then last. year was Heartline. Uh, his first year. as OC and Ryan Day was definitely. overseeing it a ton. And now you go back. to a established NFL OC. It's going to. be It's interesting. I I don't know what. the dynamics are in that room cuz Ryan, that's Ryan Day's baby. Like the offense. is his baby. And then you have an. established OC coming in. I'm sure like. I'm sure the experience with Chip helped.

a lot in this decision-making. >> We should call Ryan and tell him. congrats, you're number two team. [laughter]. >> Yeah, I love that. >> He will. Okay, good. I like that. We. lost the game somehow. All right. I I. like that we did that. Okay, we'll be. back tomorrow. We appreciate you all so. much for allowing us to do this for a. living. Congratulations to Grank. >> Mhm. >> That's definitely in Congrats to PCA. He's doing. >> Oh yeah. >> That's just like outrageous. Congrats to. um Tyreek Robinson at the University of. Pittsburgh uh pit wide receiver and. returner. He's building up his immune.

system eating fish out of those. rivers. >> Yeah, sounds like he's pretty good. angler. >> Good for him. >> How about Yeah, really good angler. Now. granted, those fish in those rivers are. not they're not seeing bait much, [laughter]. >> you know? I mean, they're not like. >> Sure. Yeah. They're hungry. >> If you see bait down there like, "What. the is this?" [laughter]. Yeah, right. And then they're getting. pulled out. What the I'm getting. kind of pulled here. Go out of the. water. Look at the human. You don't want. to me. [laughter]. This is what Nardoo said about him. >> off the field. Just little things he. drives me nuts with, you know, like. eating fish out of the river. That's not.

a good thing. >> Catch of the day. >> Maybe a little bit. >> Tyreek Robinson. What are you eating. right there? >> Ah, this is a uh large mount. I. thought I pulled it out of the river. here. Catfish, maybe. >> What What are you doing? Who are you. feeding this to? Just you or is it other. people on this football team eating this. fish? Just me? All right, let's. stop with the fish. >> The amount of lead in his blood right. now is. >> Yeah, it's a good sign. >> They're gonna be good. >> We hope it's just lead. Who knows what.

else is in there? Jordan Tyson sad. >> tough. >> Yeah, >> that does suck. >> Do we think it's got to get unlucky at. some point? Kell Moore said. >> I don't want to say what I think. >> Kell Moore said for the. >> You gonna stop now, right? >> Yeah. So, >> no, I I mean, talent-wise, we all know. what he is. We saw we saw a move like. guys that big don't move like that. When. he went number eight, we knew the injury. history, but this is what we're worried. about. And then for Rapshi, I think. Rapshi said, uh, not related to the.

other injuries. That makes me feel worse. because now it's not the old hamstring. injury, it's a new hamstring. Be out two. months. It's a long time. Uh, but I'm. I'm still optimistic. >> Okay. Well, we will remain optimistic. that this is the last time we hear about. this. But Kelly Mo, head coach said that. the reason why it's not related, I. think, to the other injuries. He's. saying that this was just like a freak. accident. Okay. >> Foot slipped, gets hit at the same time,

probably tears something in there. Strain is a tear depending upon how big. of a strain it is. And uh they assume. him to be healthy and back hopefully. after four or five weeks of the season. sucks, man. It's the worst part. about football. And like you said, like. he had unlucky injuries in college, but. like a guy like, you know, Ricky Pearaw, like he who never got hurt and then he. just unfortunate incident after. obviously the shooting is a whole. another thing, but like the injuries on. the field just some guys who just get. those bad breaks. We all been in the. locker room, we've seen it, you know,

guys do great things for, you know, four. or five weeks and they're on the field. and then boom, something happens. So I. hope it does turn around because we've. been talking highly about this Saints. team and his role being, you know, the. number two with Olive there. So, I hope. he gets out there sooner than later. >> Still got Alvin Kamara and Achan in the. back field. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. That's uh ETN. >> Chris called him there, right? >> Yeah, he did. >> He did. >> He's not going to stop eating. >> Yeah, but he's like friends with them. So, >> first year hazing. >> teammates.

>> Well, have you heard about some of Nope. Not going to get into that. >> Yeah, probably safe to stay away. Oh, oh, oh. >> Chop up my blow. >> It's a good business until it's not. >> Lot of movies about it. >> Yep, sir. >> Bot movies about it. Just something to. think about. What's the hell is going on. in the horse racing world? Something He. is doing it. I don't like what Hees is. doing. The Listen, if Repole's pissed, I'm pissed. I just want to let everybody.

know that. He wrote the longest article. I've ever seen on Hex. I tried to get. through it, but I didn't know all the. organizations that he was referring to. Whenever he was saying these people are. doing this to this people, it was hard. for me to keep track on who was what. people. Bruce Brown, former owner of a. horse, knows the horse racing world. good. What's Rapole pissed off? And in. turn, what am I pissed off about? Because Rapole is pissed off. >> Yeah. I mean, a lot of these agencies. are new. Horse racing like boxing. doesn't have that central body. And the. HISA is an attempt at that. um where.

basically like all the the owners and. trainers have to report their vet info. to this central body to make sure it's. an even playing field and there aren't. situations like we've had in the. Kentucky Derby where there are like. drugs being given to the horse that. aren't allowed in in Kentucky but are. allowed in California. So, it's like all. the vet info is going into this database. and then this guy who's been um owning. and and uh playing in handicapping. contests um accessed that database and.

was using the vet info to win. handicapping contests. And the way it. all came about is that he it was like. sort of accidentally posted um online. was like his racing form which is like. past performances had like little notes. like received an injection after the. race. Um, so then everyone was like, where the hell did he get this. confidential vet info from? And then a. big part of the problem is this guy was. in the jockey club and there was a. meeting like with Rapolei with all these.

owners and trainers, horse horsemen and. women. Um, and the guy was in the. meeting and he didn't fess up to it. until like afterwards the investigators. went up to the guy and were like like. dude it was you that leaked this and was. using this van info. So it's like. basically the governing bodies that are. being set up to try to clean up the. sport were actually corrupted themselves. essentially. So it's all kind of a hot. mess. >> Classic horse racing. >> That's horse racing, baby. What are we. talking about? >> This is just classic. If this was to. happen in college football, we'd say.

classic. If this was to happen in. baseball, we'd say classic. This boxing. classic horse racing. >> classic. That's what they're doing. But. I do appreciate the fact that trying to. clean it up. You know, we're trying to. get back in there. >> just like every other sport. Trying to. clean it up so we can survive forever. Hey, Rapoli. You know, I'll go bankrupt for. that. Know that I'm on your team. >> Yeah. >> He should just start cheating, though. >> Rapoli. >> Yeah. No, he's. >> family one day. [laughter]. >> Never cheat.

>> Yeah. >> I was heartbroken for him, man. >> I know. I know. >> Rapoli. I've had the best horse. I've had the. worst horse. I've never won. Okay. Maybe. today will be the day. You remember that. big post. >> close second. >> I love. >> When's he getting out of the spring. football stuff? Is that soon? >> Hopefully uh before the next season. starts. Yeah. >> Sounds like he's going to need some. horse money. >> What they're doing to him. >> I don't like what they're doing to Repi. >> I'd like Repley to know we stand with. you and your stallions. >> Mhm. >> Unless you get caught doing something we.

don't like, then we no longer stand with. you. But at this moment, >> we are on team Rapoli. >> That was also all legend. Okay, that's what Rapoli was saying. Yes, exactly. That's the story that. Rapoli's scroller, dude. It was. >> Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Big time. >> It was a breaky [whistles]. >> put in there. Go ahead. You can scroll. I think faster if you want. >> Damn. >> If he just keep going. This thing ain't. even close to done, dude.

>> Go ahead. >> Oh, I can see the scroll bar now. >> That's one of those. >> This is on X. Good. >> This is on X. >> Full article. >> Still going. There it is. Full. transparency. Full accountability. No. more Period. Signed. Rupole. I like it. Okay. The sports are. cooking, are they not? >> They are. >> They never stop. They absolutely never. stop. And we're lucky as hell that we. get a chance to chat about it. We can't. thank all of you. >> enough for allowing us to do this for a.

living. We appreciate you all so much. And uh I'll tell you Thursday, September. 3rd, the Rat Skellar here in. Indianapolis, Indiana. I don't have a. time yet, but it'll be in the evening. Let's assume it'll be when it gets. darker, so it might be a little later in. the evening. Uh yeah, first live. performance potentially. Uh Yep. First. live per I'll say first. >> Okay. >> What's going on? >> I was going to say potentially last. >> Don't no. We don't know. We don't know. how this is going to go. We don't know. how this is going to go. Excited uh to. see everybody who comes out. I would.

appreciate if you learn the words sing. alongside me. But it's not just gonna be. me. We're gonna have a full band. I I. think of a lot of the band that did the. tracking for the songs like the best. musicians in the world. Actually, the. people that did it. I'm so incredibly. lucky that they spent time and effort. Now grant I I did pay for it. Obviously. that's part of the business. And you do. that and I would have anyways even if. they offered up to do it free because of. how much respect I have for their. immense amount of talent. But I do. believe she'll be a pretty good little. musical performance here. Excited to get. out there and do it. the boys might have. a little piece, you know, at the.

beginning, kick the entire thing off. It. should be uh quite a kickoff to college. football season. Yeah, you know, there's. week zero before this and then week one. is just. >> two days removed from this. So, this. will be a great kickoff to football. season as we get started on the road. I. am uh. >> I'm thankful for it all, man. All right. Thank you. Goodbye to you. We will see. all of you tomorrow. Be a friend. Tell a. friend something nice. Might change your. life. for this thing together.

Team on me, team on three for the good. of sport, baby. 1 2 3. Goodbye.