The Pat McAfee Show Live | Tuesday April 29th 2025

Heat. Heat. N. [Music]. A up. a a.

[Music]. [Music]. Heat. Heat.

[Music]. Heat. Hey. Hey. Hey. [Music].

Heat. Heat. Heat. Hey, Heat. [Music]. [Music].

[Music]. [Music].

Hey, hey, hey. [Music]. [Music]. Heat. Heat. [Music].

[Music]. Heat. [Music]. Heat. Heat. Heat. N.

[Music]. Hey. Hey. Hey. Heat. Heat. N.

[Applause]. [Music]. [Music]. Heat. Heat.

[Music]. The following program is a collection of. stooges talking about happenings in the. sports world. It is meant to be comedic, informative. The opinions expressed on. this show do not necessarily reflect the. beliefs of their peers, their boss, or. ESPN. There may be some cuss words. because that's how humans in the real. world talk. If you are a young, please.

seek permission before watching any. further. Hey, let's go. This show stinks and the fact that you. listen, we are very, very thankful for. McAfee on the line with a gorgeous. assist. the all-time leading tackler for. the Green Bay Packers. You. think stop. Damn it. Your friend, tell. your friend something nice could change. their life.

[Applause]. Hello, beautiful people, and welcome to. our humble bone, the. Thunderdome on this unfighting gator. next Saturday, Tuesday. This show starts. now. sports are happening all around us. and uh we're so incredibly lucky and. thankful that we get to talk about them. every single day. Obviously, there's NFL. news that are always popping off and. today we have a couple general managers. joining us. Brandon Bean of the Buffalo.

Bills will join us in about 20 minutes. You might know him uh from running the. Buffalo Bills. You might uh know him. from, you know, uh the draft that he. just did this past weekend. You might. also know him from a local radio hit. that he did yesterday with Jeremy and. Joe up there where he said, "I'm about. sick of you guys bitching about wide. receivers. Did we not just put up 30. points? Why are you guys upset in 2018? You guys wanted me to draft Josh Rosen. over Josh Allen." Okay, so now we're. doing the same thing. Brandon Bean is a.

human uh who happens to be front of the. program who also happens to be one of. the best uh team builders I think that. there is in the National Football. League. Has his team won the Super Bowl? No. But they're certainly working every. day to get there. He'll chitchat with us. in about 19 minutes. I can't wait to get. his take on everything that happened. during the NFL draft. And in the second. hour, we got uh Lesne. Oh, okay. Yeah, Lesne, Los Angeles Rams general manager. will join us as well. We're going to. have a conversation about baseball at. the end of the show. Jeff Pass is going. to join us. Fresh off of his Monday. Night Raw appearance last night. Him and.

the Passing Boys looked like they had an. absolute bl. Oh, let's go. Let's go. He. said TC. Oh, TC. Okay. Okay. OTC, I. thought he was giving a heart there a. little bit. He did acknowledge his. tribal chief, which I respect and. appreciate. Had great seats and last. night was a great show. Great show last. night. Seth Rollins, Braun Breaker, Paul. Heymon. I feel like they're uh they're. going to be a problem. I feel like. they're going to be a problem. How about. uh Becky Lynch is saying, "Yeah, I. jumped Bailey. So what? Deal with it.". Crazy. Yeah. So I could be tag team with. Lyra Valkyia and then I would attack.

Lyra Valkyia. Becky Lynch literally in a. matter of two moves. Pom pom pom pom. Was a champ again. She's back. Now she's. at top gun for the title. It's like. super genius type stuff. Obviously, she. and Seth freaking Rollins could be. scheming at all times around their child. that they have together in their family. while they're cooking. And also, uh I. forced uh Smackdown's version of Adam. Pierce, uh Mr. Aldis, who former. champion in his own right, handsome lad, great middle manager, uh to allow me to. fight Gunther, which I will be doing. next Saturday at uh Backlash. So, last.

night was electrifying. Last night was. fantastic. And last night I got to tell. the world that that guy sitting down. there next to me, he's the goat. And if. you want peace of. him, you're going to have to go through. me. Now Gunther is a beast. Gunther is a. dog. Gunther's in his prime. Gunther. literally only spends moments of his. life trying to beat up other people. So. while I'm here talking about sports, having a good time with the boys, following along with everything else, all Gunther's doing is preparing to hurt. people. I understand that. But what he.

needs to know is I ain't no Huh? What? Michael. Yeah. Yeah. This ain't no Okay. Especially if you're gonna mess with the. goat, who happens to be one of my best. friends. I don't think so. So, his ban. has been lifted and we have a match now. in St. Louis at Backlash. And I saw his. response. He put a little laughy face at. it. Like, okay, Gunther. Okay, Bob. Listen, uh, I understand you got an. incredibly strong jawline. I understand. your presence is wild, but I want to let.

you know, been hitting my chest with. bamboo. That's right. Been hitting my. chest with bamboo since last Monday, thinking that this was possible. Just. been banging bamboo off of my chest like. I'm karate kid getting this thing ready. He is a guy that likes to thump. Oh. yeah. He is a chopper, a slapper, a. puncher. He is a meaty man that's not. scared to beat you down. Well, guess. what? I can become that, too. Mhm. I'm ready. for that. Yeah. Huh. I punched that. punching uh machine over there. Game.

buster. Harder than ever. Harder than. anybody in the history of the world. That's right. I saw some guy on the. internet hit one of these things at a. weight room. I don't know if you saw. this guy. He looked like he was, I don't. know, 290, completely jacked up. He got. all jacked up about a 915 or something. like that. It was like, yeah, 915's fun. Me and Bruce do that left-handed, you. know, in this entire thing. So, if he. wants to go ahead and get into the chop. world, I think I may work some of those. as well, cuz you can turn a knockout. punch, which I have one. I don't have. titanium in here, but this thing has. been around town a couple times. You.

just open that thing up. What if I'm a. ch What if What if I didn't even know in. my preparation of going through in this. chop world? And maybe I got an okay one. as well. We're going to find out. There's a chance I get my ass kicked out. there. Certainly is. But just know that. I'd rather get my ass kicked for. standing up for my friend than to be a. coward and back away whenever some bully. comes in and starts messing with a. 60-year-old goat. So, I'm excited. Last. night was awesome in Kansas City. Great. crowd. Yeah, great. Great crowd in the. home of.

the cheese. They went with me. They did. I didn't know if I had the I got to. really hit the rhythm here, you know, they went uh completely. There's a lot. of signs around there. I uh I enjoyed. the hell out of Kansas City last night. very thankful as we continue on the wild. world of professional wrestling. Lucky. to be a part of the WWE. This Friday, I'll be live from uh New York Times. Square. Uh the ring will be putting on a. fight. I think you've heard about it. There's five fights actually happening. in Time Square. I'll be doing a nice.

solo ISO setup from there doing it. I. think we're going to have some special. guests. I think a lot of people are. coming through. I think a lot of people. are coming through. And uh just the. thought of being able to do a show live. from Time Square, I said I'll do that. Yeah. So that should be fun on Friday. Getting into the boxing rode in the Big. Apple. Friday, May 2nd in the Big Apple. in Time Square with one of the biggest. boxing events of all time. Is it the. biggest card of all time? No. Garcia is. on there though. Yeah, that's right. Garcia is on there and and I think he's. just uh he's good again. I think he's. just like Ryan Garcia. Just a human.

Normal guy. Ryan Garcia. Best camp of. his life. What do you mean? Sure. Sure. Sure. Sure. Sure. He's not doing He had. the most insane camp I've ever seen. He. had the most wild promo that I've ever. seen. He won. And that certainly was an. interesting dynamic, you know, cuz. whenever you see people crash out appear. publicly, especially in a fight game, you think to yourself, "This person's. got no chance because the other person. has not been crashing out." And instead, Ryan Garcia, a public crash out. seemingly through the entire promo, and. then he wins the fight. It was like, was. that work? Was that all was that all.

work? Was that all for promo? I'm not. sure. This one fully focused. Obviously, it's time square. There's going to be. memorable moments. There's going to be. memorable shots. And I'm lucky enough. that I'm going to be, you know, right. there, I guess, standing right next to. the ring. Yeah. Okay. Should be a fun. time. The toxic table's here at Boston. Conor, and that's Tai Schmidt. One half. of the hammer. Don Cowboys AP Tone is. here. Nine-year NFL vet, Darius J. Butler is here. We'll be talking. football obviously with the GMs, but. there's other sports taking over right. now. Com man, last night you said you. watched all of the NHL. Yeah. Uh,

Panthers Lightning. It was probably one. of the best hockey games I've seen in a. long time. That wasn't for Nations and. wasn't a Bruins game. It's uh you know, one- nothing and eblad for the Panthers. who's just coming back off a 20game. suspension. He buries Hegel. No penalty. called. Uh John Cooper, the head coach. of the Lightning, pissed off. Uh. Lightning respond in a big way. Score. twice in I don't know 30 seconds, may. maybe a minute. and John Cooper, who is. an NHL hockey coach, and as we know, NHL.

players, they don't show much emotion in. general. John Cooper loses his [ __ ] on. the bench after they score this second. goal to go up 2-1. Fist bumps. Boom. That's right. He He's yelling, "That's. right, bitch." Uh, basically all That. never happens at all. Never happens. Especially a guy like I love it. We need. more of this. Mhm. Yeah. Incredible. And. then um unfortunately for John Cooper, uh then the the Cats come back. They. score twice in about 15 seconds to win. the game. Eklad with the first one who.

kind of started this entire thing with. this hit on Hegel and then right off the. next face off they come down score again. 3-2. They get an empty netter. Uh. Panthers win 42. This is a muffin. I. mean you got to save this. You can't. really let let a goal like that go in. But when Marshand is in front of you, it's hard not to get distracted. But it. was a hell of a night for hockey. And. then the uh the Stars. Stars beat the. piss out of the Avalanche again right. off the opening faceoff. They go down. Another muffin just kind of squeaks by.

for the Stars and they go up one-. nothing. Right here it is. Bang. That's. 9 seconds into the game. Can't have it. Stars win 62 in their barn. Yeah. Yeah. Bingo. Yeah. Can't have that happen. Maybe Texas hockey isn't uh terrible. gump. No, we're rolling now. Ranton. scored his first goal for us. Our big. trade deadline acquisition. used to play. for the Colorado Avalanche legend. He. got rolling. We're looking to get a. couple guys back as well. Let's hope we. can finish this off Thursday night in. Colorado. Okay, so currently the.

Panthers are up 3-1 over the Lightning. We saw that. Uh the Stars are up 3-2. over the Avalanche. Colorado Avalanche. were being discussed as a team that. could maybe win the Stanley Cup, which. is why people were hoping as Sydney. Crosby would get traded over there. Yeah, very similar to the NBA. The West. for hockey is all 2-2 or 3-2. Now that. the Stars have played in the East is all. 3-1. So the Western Conference very. tight. The Eastern Conference not as. much. Okay. So Wild at Golden Knights. tonight 9:30 ESPN. Series tied 2-2.

Oilers at Kings tonight at 10 p.m. on. TBS. That is tied 2-2. Devils will take. on the Hurricanes 7:30 on TBS. Canes are. up 3-1. Can put them away. And then the. Maple Leafs are at home taking on the. Senators at 700 p.m. on ESPN. Leafs are. up 3-1. They could put it away. So, a. lot on the line tonight in the NHL. Can't wait to continue to follow along. with the NHL playoff action, which is. spectacular. And now, let's talk about. the NBA that's in the middle of its.

playoff run. Jimmy Butler's back. Uh-oh, Jimmy. Oh, debut. The Warriors of Old. are the Warriors of today. Steph goes. for 38 the other day. He's playing like. old school Steph. Jimmy Butler's back. after a little bit of an injury. Is this. team the team of the West that people. need to talk about? What is going on in. the NBA? You got to you got to fear him. You got to have a healthy fear. Whenever. Steph can have, you know, uh the lack of. offensive output that he had last night. and still find a way to get a win. It. was a great game, too. I think uh they.

need to find another consistent score if. you're the Rockets. Um outside of. Shenon, who's an absolute monster, a. dog. Um but uh yeah, Jimmy Butler just. kind of took over this game. you can. tell he's not 100% healthy. Uh Q Rich. said it yesterday, if he misses a game, he's truly injured, but he came back, he. battled and he kind of, you know, just. took control of the game uh late in the. fourth quarter. Steph still did his. thing. But yeah, the Warriors are a. formidable opponent any night they go. out there and they can definitely win it. if everybody, you know, plays their type. of ball. Jimmy Butler wanted out of.

Miami. Boy, well, a lot of people are. going to be getting out of Miami, I. think. Cavs blow out the Miami Heat in the. first round of the playoffs. Ugly. And. they end it with a 128 to 83 dub in the. playoffs. Game four. This was uh I. turned the game on last night as I got. home. Mhm. Late or I was watching maybe. Sports Center highlights. I forget what. it was. Maybe Sports Center highlights. and they showed the score and it was it.

was like 60 to 20 at one point. Yeah. in. the first quarter probably 30 to8 first. quart I'm not watching this it was like. what the hell this is not what I thought. basketball in the playoffs could be this. Cleveland team is a real deal real deal. real deal and whenever you can get a. sweep and obviously get some risk. they're kind of banged up so when you. have extra days off pays huge dividends. for teams and uh you know 122 points I. believe was the margin in this series. and I believe that is an NBA record so.

we let Jimmy Walt it was that that. relationship it kind of got to the point. where both sides needed to go their. separate ways. Uh but I think Bam said. it after the game, it's going to be some. big big changes in Miami with how Pat. Riley usually does business. Yeah, that. that Giannis thing we talked about um. yesterday, it does feel like more so. than ever Miami will be on in in on. that. But Cavs Pacers, if the Pacers win. tonight, that series is set. that that's. kind of the one in the east now that m. is the biggest one of course because the. you know the Pacers they run and gun and.

then the Cavs they've just been. dominating teams and the Cavs are kind. of like the Celtics they're a little. banged up so the Pacers could you know. as cool of a story the first round is. Pacers come in they run and gun they. might run away with it against the Cavs. I'm going to have a rematch in the. Eastern Conference Finals okay and who. would that be uh Pacers Celtics oh the. Pacers made the Eastern Conference. Finals last year they did Oh I forgot. about that nobody seems to talk about. that ever. You know, the Boston Celtics. are untouchable. Okay. Hey, maybe. Cleveland Cavaliers, they're the team of.

this season. Hey, maybe New York Knicks, they got the most clutch player of the. year. And Jaylen Brunson, Josh Hart, obviously they're in the big. Here we. go. They're they're a team. Okay. Miami. Heat, they're dealing with Jimmy Butler, whose team might not be. Okay. Is. anybody going to talk about the Indiana. Pacers? Is anybody going to Is anybody going to. talk about the team that has only gotten. better as the seasons went on? Literally. maybe not that great at the beginning. And I think Tyrese Hallebertton would be. a big part of that beginning of the. season. For whatever reason, Tyrese. couldn't find a bucket. Tyrese just.

wasn't Tyrese Hallebertton. Then he. doesn't get selected to the All-Star. game. He takes a break. And I think. during that break, he went to work. And. then on the other side of that, this. Pacers team led by Tyrese Hallebertton, Miles Turner, Spicy P, TJ McConnell, and. Rick Coach Rick Carlau and the boys, they have gone on a run. epic. In. February, I think they had the most wins. in the entire NBA. That continues into. March, obviously into April. Now, it's. like this Pacers team's hot. They're. playing their best ball. They play. physical. They play flashy. They can. shoot it. They can get in. They can get. underneath. They got guys that aren't.

willing to that are willing to fight. people. It's like the Pacers are real. deal, brother. Like that is that is just. and I know we're speaking about it. because we're in Indianapolis and Tyrese. Hallebertton friend of the program and. everything like that actually facetimed. me and Michael Cole like a minute before. we were live on Raw and he said is this. going to be a good show? It's like. see you. Yeah, it is going to be a good. Raw tonight. Tyrese but he's been. halibballing and the Pacers have been. damn damn good. And if they make it to. the Eastern Conference Finals yet again.

and we spend another full off season or. another season not showing them any. respect, I'm going be upset about it. Dbut, I want to let you know that. they're earn They earned it. They're. undeniable. And Hallebertton, he is. unbelievable. I think the best just. true, you know, kind of old school point. guard in the game right now as far as. keeping everybody involved and just the. the pace that they play at. Like that's. tough to run up and down with them. Everybody's always involved. The ball. doesn't stick with one guy. is not just. sitting there like, you know, like a. James Harden or Luca where you're. pounding the ball, the ball's always.

moving, guys are cutting, guys are. catching alleys. And then defensively, they're playing defense. And Miles. Turner, if he can continue to protect. the rim like he's doing, they can. definitely go out and beat uh anybody. I'm I'm I'm curious who who Connor would. rather face, huh, Pacers or the Cavs. when it came down to the Celtics are. banged up. You know, we're Drew Holiday. hasn't played and he's not playing. tonight. So, it's three straight games. with the hamstring. Tatum's got his. wrist, so that's not as big of a. concern. And Jaylen Brown's got the knee.

and the Pacers just sprint up and down. the court. Like, I personally would. rather play the Cleveland Cavaliers, especially after last year. Like, if. you're banged up, you're saying if. you're banged up and last year, you can. say, well, the Celtics swept the Pacers. Like, you go back and look at that. We. were supposed to win three of those. It. should have been two two. Yeah. It. should have been inbound pass, a. dribble, just there was a ghost on the. court. I have no idea. It might have. been Koozie. Yeah, to be honest, I have. no idea who it was. I mean, there was a. lot of things that happened where the. Pacers, the way that season ended, there.

was no, they weren't allowed to be happy. with what they did. Just made it to the. Eastern Conference Finals. Nobody. thought they were going to make it to. the Eastern Conference final. They trade. for Spicy PE middle of the season. He. fits in perfectly. I mean, he really. takes him to the next level, let alone. TJ McConnell and everything he's done. for the city since getting here in the. team and everything. And he's not he's. not scared to moxy and swag right in. people's faces. I think he lifts the. grit level up and the way Carlile. expects them. Carile expects them. Hey, we don't got he goes around here. This. is how we're rolling. It's like the. Pacers are a fun team and a good team. for the state of Indiana. Well, and.

that's the thing about the Pacers, too, is like last year in the Eastern. Conference Finals, they're young, right? First time there. This year would be, hey, we've been here before. We know. what this is like versus the Cavs. The. Cavs haven't been there. So, for the. Celtics playing in the inexperienced. team, you would just rather do that. I. um I'm happy to watch the NBA playoffs. become what it's becoming. I saw a lower. third headline. Do the Lakers have what. it takes to win a championship this. year? It's like they're down 3-1 and. they played everybody the entirety of. the second half in the last game. I I. think it's going to be tough. I think. it's going to be tough for I think it's.

be tough for the Los Angeles Lakers. With that being said, is Luca up now or. is Luca back next year? Uh I think he I. thought he had one more year. I thought. he was LA for one more year because. Supermax Max contract conversation was. the big one over in Dallas. And then. there was people that were like, "Well, what if Luca ends up leaving LA to. potentially go play somewhere else? How. will this all be viewed in the grand. scheme of the trade down the road?" So, if Luca's back next year, we're going to. assume LeBron's going to be back next. year. JJ Reic's back for another year of.

coaching. Their culture is seemingly. already set in. You would think that the. culture is set in. Maybe the Lakers will. be set up for success next year, but it. doesn't feel like this is the year for. them. But what do I still? Yeah, it's. not over. What is it? Plus, 1100 to win. the series. for them to win the series. still. Yeah. And I mean, LeBron James. has done this before. Oh, yeah. And Luca. Dona can do this to anybody, huh? He's. done it before, too. Yeah. And it's like. maybe maybe they do. Just come back. Backs against the wall, half to win. No. more mistakes. Let's do this. And JJ. Reic says, "Yeah, we're not suffering. for the full game. You thought you.

thought one half was you thought one. half was a lot. Wait till the boys were. playing the whole damn game." He looked. down on his bench a couple times and he. said, "I'm disgusted." Look right back. out on the court. I I'm I'm thinking. that JJ Reic while he was playing. because I think he made the playoffs. like a 10 of the 11 years ago that. crazy. There was some stat that he had. where he made the playoffs a bunch as a. player if he was on a team they were. going to make the playoffs for some. reason. Maybe he's pretty good team guy. Maybe he's a pretty good coaching guy. Maybe he pretty much understands. basketball pretty good. So whenever he. was hired as a head coach, maybe it.

isn't just because he drinks wine on a. podcast. Maybe this guy was supposed to. be a coach. Yeah, maybe in his entire. thing. But there's definitely been games. where he's been sitting on the court and. a coach has made a decision to sub. somebody out and he's going, "The [ __ ] that gonna do? How is that. going to help us?" And in his mind that. crawled back up the other night and he. said, "I've always wondered if this is. the right move." Turns out those last. couple minutes, that's going to be. tough, especially whenever you're taking. on a guy like Ant who seemingly always. has energy and a uh former defensive.

player of the year in Rudy Goar who. elbows you in the back of the head once. you're already a little bit exhausted. You could tell they're retired. Yeah. At. the very end of that game. Now, will. they be able to recover? We assume. science will be able to get them for. that. But the question of will does this. it doesn't look good does not look good. for Los Angeles Lakers this year. Does. not mean that the Luca trade is a. terrible failure. It just means. uh them boys look tired and and if. they're able was that a part of the. thing that Nico was saying though I. don't even want to get into that like.

what Nico take a celebration saying he. played a whole half couldn't even play. next game remember you saw that ain't. that interesting so much drama the NBA. showing up for us though let's go to the. NFL and congrats to front of the program. ladies and gentlemen George KD baby. George KD just signed a new 4year deal. $76.4 $4 million uh in total, 19.1, which is.1 more than the second highest. paid tight end. He has $40 million. guaranteed, $ 35 million at signing. He.

got that literally today as he signed 5. million in 2027 coming. Congratulations. to George and congratulations to the. busing with the boys boys down there in. Nashville. Uh breaking the news. Now, with that being said, the NFL did not. give them credit. I believe there were. some other people that did not give them. credit. Welcome to Thunderdome. They'll. yell at us about journalism, do remember. that cuz we're just the dumb jocks. They'll yell at us about all the [ __ ]. Uh but they operate in a much there's a. different set of rules seemingly for. them. Will and Taylor seemingly a.

different set of rules for everybody. But with that being said, George KD has. earned this. There were stats that were. coming out about George KD last season. First in yards per game, second in. touchdowns, third in yards, fifth in. receiving. Did we talk about the Niners. or George KD at all last year? No. Yeah. He's first in yards per game at tight. end. Now, obviously, this has Travis. Kelce having a downer year last year and. everything else like that, but Brock. Bowers broke some rookie records. Well, he didn't come close to what KD was, and. now he's making 19.1. Trey McBride just. signed last week. He's at 19 million. Travis Kelce now seemingly underpaid.

even though he signed his deal last off. season. TJ Hawinson 16.5. Dallas Goddard. at 14.25 million. Hey, uh we're happy as. hell for George. I saw him at. Wrestlemania. Mhm. He was uh he's such a. good positive light. And it was jocked. marking out. He's in great shape. He's. in great shape. He is. He even. acknowledged how great a shape he was. in. He's huge. I was like, "Man, you. look like you're in great shape." He. goes, "Yes, I am in very good shape. right now." Yeah. I uh I've been working. out very hard. I think he is very.

excited for this season. I think he. assumed that this deal was going to get. done. Uh there was conversation about. what the deal was supposed to be worth. and he said, "Your sources aren't. correct. It's come out that it is the. highest per year." So, I don't know. who's going to say they're right and who. wasn't right, but I'm happy George got. paid uh over there in San Francisco. It's crazy because you talk about the. Niners and George KD getting talked. about. And you know, George, he did have. an incredible season. Brock Powers was. first team all pro, George was second. team all pro, but if your team's not. good, like if the Niners were good. again, KD, we would have talked about KD. every single week. But if your team's.

not good and it's not your fa But it's. not your fault, like it's that's just. kind of how it works. But yeah, people. kind of forgot about how good George's. season was. And I love when you get paid. just 100,000 more than the highest paid. guy. That's my favorite thing going on. I love when there's a little pettiness. amongst the agency and uh and the. general manager. Okay, put the uh. highest paid tight ends back up there. What uh Okay, joining us now, ladies and. gentlemen, is a man who has tight ends. by the name of Dawson Knox, Dalton. Concaid, and Zack Davidson. And they are. all so good at what they do. They need.

to start knocking on this man's door. Ladies and gentlemen, general manager of. the Buffalo Bills, Brandon Bean. Bean. Brandon Bean is a new high scorer at the. tight end position. That's good news. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I'd say he's uh I'd. say his door is locked and bolted. So, congrats to the 49ers for getting him. done. He's a heck of a talent. Yeah. I. mean, but if I'm King Kade, I might want. to think about getting in there early. Yeah. You know, might want to think. about now that the tight end market is. what it is. Hey, don't be ringing up my. guys trying to get.

Don't be doing that, buddy. Let's talk. about your team. How do you feel coming. out of the draft? Obviously, in the. first round, you get what seems to be. the most electrifying guy in the draft. room. I don't know if you saw the video. I assume you did. Literally, every. person that got drafted had to dap up. Maxwell Haristen because he was so damn. happy for him. And also, where they put. his room was right next to where the. tunnel would go. Obviously, he could. have just sat on his couch, kept. everybody like kind of behind him and. not interrupted. He felt obligated, it. feels like, to celebrate alongside every.

person that had a dream come true. I. assume that was among many factors, including the fact that he's fast as. [ __ ] as why he was the guy for the. Buffalo Bills for you in the first. round. Yeah, I mean, that's that's who. he is. He's he loves being around. people. He's an energetic person. Obviously, you see his energy on the. field and his speed, but uh I actually. asked him about I I was unaware of it. till uh after my media that night. Somebody brought it up and and then I. saw some video and and he was just like, "No, I was right there." He goes, "I've.

met a lot of these guys through training. and through the process uh along the. way." And so he was just like, "Man, I. was genuinely happy for him." He's like, "It's pretty cool." And I was in a. perfect spot. They had to walk by me and. I was going to love them up. So, uh a. lot of credit to him. That's just kind. of his personality. So, it was cool, you. know, when he got his moment and and. people were dapping him up after he had. done it for everyone else. Yeah. I I. think if I was you, I would uh I mean, cuz nobody's asking him to do this. This. is just him naturally feeling this way. And everybody else wanted to gravitate.

to him, too. You know, it's like for you. just to feel like, yeah, everything we. thought about this guy is right just in. that one moment. In my eyes, whenever I. saw that with everybody, I'm like, everybody likes him and he likes. everybody. That's somebody we want in. the locker room. You talk about his. energy. Do you think you got a bunch of. guys that fit your culture? And how. important is that as you're going. through these picks cuz I know you know. later rounds, middle rounds, there's a. lot going on. I don't know how many. people you have on your board, but maybe. the person before you took somebody that. you want. How often are you scoring like.

fit in our culture in our building while. making all of these picks or how do you. kind of judge that going into the draft? Yeah. Uh, great question. We kind of. build our board that way. I mean, you. you start and you're you're building. your board in the fall uh just off of. what you're watching on film. You really. haven't met these guys. You're getting. background on them. You're kind of. putting the puzzle together of what they. are as a person, their habits, their. DNA, their learns, uh their medical, all.

that stuff that that we're doing through. the through the spring before we get to. April. And so, um you know, you would. love it if they all check out as. characters. Sometimes it's like the. guy's not a bad guy. We got some work to. do. His talent is in the second round. Don't love everything about him, but we. think he's trending up. Maybe we drop. him down a little bit and say we're. going to lower the risk here if if we. don't like him, but we still think our. culture, our building can fix him. So, all those things can weigh into where.

you put them on the board. But once we. set that board prior to the draft, we. just play off of that and and we go with. it. Even to your point, if someone gets. t, you know, we got our eye on a guy and. he gets taken off right before we pick, we look to the next guy and we kind of. have those, especially when we get. inside five picks. All right, this is. choice one, this is choice two, this is. choice three and and beyond and you. just, you know, you get two picks away. You go, all right, here's choice A, here's choice B. You make the pick or or.

you trade out. Are you watching um the. feeds of the draft? And then do you have. a phone that's just open to everybody? What is the setup in the in the war. room? Yeah, we have the feed. So, we got. a couple TVs on uh NFL Network, ESPN. Uh. you got it kind of low, but you're. you're paying attention. And then. there's an open line that every team's. on and you're hearing the league run it. of, you know, they'll say Baltimore is. now on the clock and then and you see. their clock start. We have a clock in.

our room and then as soon as they'll say. pick is in, um, Minnesota is now on the. clock and then all of a sudden we'll get. it advertised to us before it's on TV so. that we can go ahead and start. preparing, you know, again, that's one. pick closer to our next one. Oh, got it. Got it. So, that's how tip uh p uh picks. get tipped. Yep. Yeah, that's exactly. how picks get tipped. If somebody with a. team has it uh well before, especially.

as you go later in the draft and they're. kind of coming up with their own. stories, sometimes a pick's been turned. in and it's 8 n minutes before it hits. TV. We had to deal with that because, you know, we do the internet show that. you're not watching apparently. It was. good. Sher was in there. Coach Mike. McCarthy, you're on it. You joined us. You were part of it. Obviously, you. can't watch it. I understand. Probably. tough with the tech there too to get. YouTube up. You know, I wanted to put it. on, but they told me no. I wanted to. next year. It's probably Boyco. Yeah, I. understand. Hey, uh that damn boy. He's.

He's a hard ass. I get it. I get it. I. thought we I thought we did a good draft. show. Ju just for future reference. There was some uh words said, you know. Sure. How was Mike McCarthy on there? Hilarious. Just really absolutely. At. the beginning, he was a little. uncomfortable. So he he wasn't. understanding that TV was happening. around him. So like I'd ask him a. question and then I'm pressing a button. right here. Right. So, I press a button. on the thing and I'm talking to the back. room right now. So, everybody in the. everybody in the back room can hear what. I'm saying, right? And that's either uh.

Foxy communicating with me, Zitto. communicating with me, me communicating. back with them. Oh, I want to see the. film that we had here. I think there's a. video of this. Zitto will show me a. video. I like that video. Let's do that. Let's rewind this. So, that's all. happening while people are talking. Okay, that's just a standard show. Okay, that's I have board here. I have one. whenever I'm in uh uh at any of these. places at game day. I have one whenever. I'm at WWE. It happens whenever we're. live on stage at the draft and McCarthy. is right here. So I ask him a question. He starts giving his answer and I'm. going immediately to the back room and.

I'm going like, "Hey, whenever he talks. about this, we need to get to this and. this." And McCarthy goes, "Huh?". Cuz he cuz he can't cuz he can hear me. through the headphones. You're good. But. and so I go, "No, you're good. You're. good." He goes, "Uh, okay." And then he just kind of turned. then he kind of just turned this way so. he didn't see me. So like him being like. naturally. um uncomfortable with like what TV or. what is happening around him was like. why he was so good cuz he got like real. comfortable just started like telling.

stories just started chitchatting about. decisions telling sto he's a storyteller. that guy whenever he's done they will. pay him to come to businesses and tell. stories and uh he'll get paid very very. well for that because of how good he is. but yeah he you could tell he loves. football loves the players and He loved. the draft and he loved the trenches. getting taken. He loved big dudes. getting taken, which was seemingly the. story of the night. AP Tone has a. question for you. Yeah, Bean, I got to. ask you about your third round pick, Landon Jackson. He was one of the stars.

of the combine, 66, 260, ran a 468, I. believe, jumped 40 and a half, which is. just absurd. Uh, him and Shamar Stewart. were the stars of the com and Shamar. Stewart goes in in the first round even. though Landon Jackson has a lot better. production, 13 sacks in the last two. years at Arkansas. Were you surprised a. guy like that with that that production, that athleticism was still there in the. third round? Well, I think it's one of. those Listen, we were very happy. Um, and I think the depth of the draft. helped some guys like a Landon uh fall.

to the third and and so we tried to take. advantage of it. We knew going into this. draft that there was going to be depth. at DT tackle and DN. And even if we got. someone early, which we traded up in. round two for TJ Sanders, if it was. something still there on the D line, we. weren't going to turn away from it and, you know, pivot to an offensive position. or or or a skill position on defense. So, uh, he, you know, his tape, I would. say if I was going to define him, it's. relentless motor. That's what you see on. him, whether it's run or pass. He's a.

three down player. um obviously had sack. production that you mentioned and just I. will say he surprised me with his. testing. Um I knew he would test well. but at 66 you know his measurements to. jump 40 and a half and run what he ran I. I was that was a wow moment for me. sitting in Indie. When did you know that. it was going to be a trenches first. round? Well I just felt like the depth of this. draft I mean those guys get paid. You. you know the game as you know Pat is won.

and lost up front. Um, and we got away. from that though. Don't you think? Don't. you think football kind of got away from. that there for a little bit? I don't. think it's I think people try to put it. with fantasy football, but I at the end. of the day, if you go to who is usually. hoisting the trophy, they were good up. front and you just go to this year's. team. Philadelphia has had a good O line. how he's done a great job there and. their Dline got after the Chiefs and and. that's and that's not a new thing. I. mean, I go back to the two Super Bowls. that I've been in in my time in Carolina.

all the way back to 2003. We had a Dline. of Julius Peppers, Chris Jenkins, Brenson Buckner, uh Mike Rucker, Al. Wallace was our fifth and he was a he. was a stud. And then you go to 2015, we. got put the wall in Wallace. I remember. that's what I'm saying. Like all those. guys though, it it's it's built up. front. Both of our teams those Super. Bowl years had good O lines and good. Dline and and that's no matter how the. game evolves and changes, I still think. it starts in the trenches. That's I.

agree with Mike McCarthy. That's I think. that's where it's at. He celebrated. every single one. Listen, I don't know. how many way times I'm supposed to say. this. I like the. pick. He said, "I need to look up. different ways to say things." I like. the pick. You got his impersonation. down. I like that. Well, he he's my dad. Yeah, he I agree. He He sounds exactly. like He does. basically I don't know a. thousand dudes that I've met in my life. So when he goes I'll sound like that. It's like you do. Yeah, that's it. This. is exactly how [ __ ] meeting Matt Mill.

a couple hours before the show. The. whole show you're gonna So, what do you. mean? And then you said to him, "Well, coach, you can't win the big one down. there." He goes, "Geez.". Geez. That's what he said. They did one. of those. Yeah. He's just like awesome. I I think just from chatting with him. over 24 hours and you know all these. football people, you're one of them. He. He's gonna get back into ball, you know, like it is. There's no for sure. questions about it. Yeah. Obsessed with.

ball. Yeah. What do stories revolve. around? Ball. What are we comparing. everything to? Ball. The barn. We got a. barn for ball. Like everything is just. about ball for Mike McCarthy. And when. we were around him, I think he would. have no problems relating with any. generation. Agree. Like, you know, like. that is a real thing. And I don't want. to say he was okay with leaving Dallas, but he has no hard feelings towards the. people of Dallas at all to us. Unless. he's one of the greatest thespians of. all time, which he actually told us a.

story about not being an actor. Yeah. Because uh he was to I don't even know. if we can. It was a great story. Anyways, the. reference of the story was somebody once. told him, okay, throughout his coaching. career that they were a very good coach. They were acting like a coach. Basically, that is what they were doing. They'd wake up in the morning and they. would act like a coach. They were. basically a professional actor. And uh. the person then asked Big Mike McCarthy. if that was his style as well. I ain't.

no actor, bub. You know, basically. answer. And it was like every story he. told it was like this guy is through and. through. So he was a lot of fun. But he. loved every trenches pick. He loved. every big body that was taken. And we do. too. You know, we have AQ Shipley uh. come on the show each week and we call. it In the Trenches and we do that whole. thing. It's the most important part by. far. I'm happy that the Philadelphia. Eagles won because now I think it like. legitimizes that you can be an old. school football team still and win in.

the modern era. So, I think that's only. going to continue. Now, speaking of the. modern era, you need weapons, a lot of. weapons. Connor, New England Patriots. fan has a question for you, Mr. Bean. Yeah, Brandon, thanks for bringing up. 2003. You know, those are good those are. good memories for Patriots fans. All. right. All right. And also, you know, those you went on a radio show earlier. this week and these two fine gentlemen. who I thought made some good points. about, you know, the fact that you guys. kind of needed wide receivers and turns. out you disagreed. Actually, you buried. them and kind of let them know. Great.

promo on. It was so good. Averaged over. 30 points this past season. You know, you actually even said, "Hey, last off. season if you guys brought this up, I. could understand." Okay. But now. bringing it up is kind of [ __ ] Uh. why didn't you draft a wide receiver and. why do you think, you know, now with. where Josh is, you know, you don't. really need to have that guy um in that. room? Well, I mean, you look at uh look. at Tom Brady. We were talking about some. of these teams that have won Super. Bowls. Look at New England. How many.

like great historic receivers did they. have in their Super Bowl teams? And so, but the Patriots, they were good up. front. They had a good quarterback. They. easily had some type of run game, whether it was Cory Dylan, whether it. was um Faulk, even in the you know, White, uh a lot of those guys. And so, um there's there's there's a hundred. different ways you can build it, okay? And we're not against good receivers, but again, as we were talking about.

earlier, we want to be strong and. certain you I would love to have a Pro. Bowl quarterback, a you know, an allp. pro offensive line, all pro running. backs, all pro receivers, but uh when. you're paying Josh Allen what you're. paying him, you got to make some. concessions somewhere else. And so I. think it's just again the narrative. since we moved on from Steph a year ago. I I understood it last year as you said. I understood why people were. questioning, hey, do they have enough at. receiver um last season, but when you as.

my point was I thought they were kind of. breaking down our draft and that was. their takeaway was why didn't you take a. receiver? That's the part I didn't. understand. Like we just showed that we. could score 30 points a game for eight. straight games. We averaged over 30. points. We we scored the most points of. anyone last season when you include the. playoffs. So why are we talking about receiver if. anything you know and they didn't bring. up that we had already added Josh Palmer. this off seasonason as a free agent.

addition we extended Khil Shakir so. again yeah again like we like our. receivers we feel strong about our. receivers and it in our opinion it. wasn't the deepest receiver class to be. trying to you know peg to peg a player. that would fit in our top four. Okay. So, you said there we're scoring 30 and. we're losing. So, obviously maybe it's. the other side of the field that we need. to chitchat about. When do you make that. decision that that is what the entire. offseason focus is going to be? Cuz I.

think we heard that the Atlanta Falcons. were only interviewing defensive players. at the combine and it was like, well, I. guess Atlanta's loading up on D. Like, I. guess that is what Atlanta's doing. And. lo and behold, they trade back into the. first round when everybody thought. people would be trading in for a. quarterback to get another defensive. player. So, it's like do you know that. an entire off seasonason is going to be. shaped towards one particular side or. how do you kind of balance that kind of. uh I don't want to say mission but goal. I guess of the uh free agency in in. combine draft season. Well, when you.

look at our roster coming out of the. season uh Pat we had a lot of guys on. offense that were returning to their. positions. I mean our whole O line or. you know top seven eight guys on our O. line are back. Our top two two tight. ends are back. All three running backs. are back, our quarterbacks are back, and. most of our receivers um are back. And. so, and we did add a Josh Palmer. So, again, we knew going in there's going to. be more transition on defense. And, you.

know, we just felt we needed to kind of. add some free agent depth, which we did. in free agency on on the Dline. We added. Joey Bosa, Michael Hoy, Larry Oen, Joby, but then we looked at the depth of the. draft and as like I said when we started. in February, we felt like there was. going to be a good number of D linemen. that we would have an opportunity at. some point in the early in the draft. Not necessarily first round, which we. got a corner, but the next two picks. lined up for us to take D lineman. And. so we weren't going to turn away from it.

with the value that we had on our board. corner, DTackle, DN, DTackle, DTackle, tight end. Welcome to the team. 19.1 million now is the uh the new going. rate for a tight end. Damn. If if. anybody on the Buffalo Bills that plays. tight ends, 19.1 million is the KD was. the fifth round pick, too. Mhm. KD out. of Iowa. What an absolute dog. Absolute. dog. Corner, DTackle, and then wide.

receiver. So, it's like we're loading up. on the defense. I'm excited to see you. kind of execute a plan. You said. something there early in your answer. that had Connor uh almost jump up out of. his seats. You said he got all three. running backs returning. Is that right? Huh? Yes, we do. Yeah. Why wouldn't we? I. don't know. I've been seeing Zillow. What's uh what are you looking for? A. house in Buffalo or what? Place is. beautiful. Buffalo. Are you guys moving. the studio to Buffalo? I vacation there. sometimes. That's a fact. Maybe for a. month or two. You know, I I know how.

cold it can get up there in Buffalo, and. I do respect snow. I appreciate uh that. I I'm comfortable where I am with snow. Uh but Buffalo's not a bad place at all. up there whenever there's sun out. They. they try not to tell people about it. I. mean, on the lake during the summer, you. Yeah. 716. One of the best. Yeah, it's a. good spot. So, you got all three running. backs? Yes, we do. Yep. James Cook, Ray. Davis, and we brought Ty Johnson back. Okay. Ty Johnson. Hell yeah. We love. that. Ray Davis. Wow.

when he was coming out of there making. catches that I he made a catch late in. the season that was absurd. Yeah, Kentucky guy. I know Ray Davis and then. you're going to let James Cook there in. the kitchen up there in Buffalo for a. little bit. I'm happy to hear that. That's good news. We should uh assume. that James Cook is going to be a Buffalo. Bill and play Buffalo Bill football. Yes. Yes, he will be here this year and. you know hopefully beyond. I mean, we're. focused on this season, but yes, for. 2025, we we'll have all three backs and.

and again, we love James, and you know, we would love nothing more than to keep. him here longer term, but uh in the. immediate, you know, point right now is. we got all three guys, including him, back for this season. I'll tell you. what, him and Joe Brady's offense has. been awesome to watch. And then. obviously pairing with Josh Allen, who. is a running freak. Uh what a combo. What an offense. Scoring 30 points, you. guys are complaining about wires. Can we. please relax a little bit? Uh, I asked. you about when did you know what your. strategy was going to be going into the. draft. You said basically immediately.

with everybody returning, those draft. when do you know questions seem to be. popping up more and more each year. Debbot has a question for you. Yeah, and. it's a a great situation when you're. going into a draft and you don't have to. worry about the quarterback position. We. know how important the trenches are, defense and everything else, but you're. not going to win a championship without. the quarterback and you got one of the. best ones uh in the league. And. obviously we just got through the draft. process, but I guess when did you know. that was a deep draft in 20 2018 for the. quarterbacks. When did you know that. Josh was probably going to be uh the guy.

you wanted to bring in and build your. team around? Yeah, I mean we spent a lot. of time with all those guys through that. process. Uh I can remember it like it. was was yesterday and it was it was a. fun process, a stressful one because you. we were sitting at 21 and 22 uh early in. that spring and so it's like man how are. we going to get up there and get a guy. like Josh and he just every step of the. way it he just became more attractive to. us um beyond the physical skill set. which we just saw a young man in the.

making that was competitive off the you. know just unbelievably competitive. really really smart we we did a lot of. stuff from the mental side of things and. then just a quick processor which we. know that the speed of the game you got. to be able to understand pre- snap but. then you got to process when things. change the ball the snap and so he had. all that. Uh we just thought the biggest. thing he needed to do was work on his. mechanics, work on his feet, his base, um arm angles, all the things that he. continually worked on. And this guy.

everywhere we got he was going to be a. tireless worker. You don't need to. challenge him. he challenges himself way. more and he's always been that way than. than we've ever needed to and and so we. just felt like this guy's going to you. go back to my opening press conference. when there was questions about Josh. Rosen um you know that we got we brought. that up yesterday you know is there was. a lot of questions why we took Josh. Allen over Josh Rosen and I was. explaining in that press conference we. go back this guy is Buffalo through and.

through he is bluecollar you are going. to love this guy way beyond the player. of how he fits this community. And you. know, they after that and they gave him. a chance, they embraced him and and he. loves Buffalo as much as Buffalo loves. him. Yeah, he is. uh he's special, man. Like especially. with the way he handles Buffalo in the. way your teams have had to evolve with. him at quarterback in Buffalo. And you. talked about his work ethic. It's like. from year 1 to year two, insane jump.

Year two to year three, insane jump. year three to year four, insane jump. Usually there's like one big growth from. somebody. Oh, they learned this. Oh, they figured this out. For him, it was. like four straight years of like, oh, this guy's getting even better and. better. So much so that now people call. him like the prototype. Like what are. you you're looking for somebody that is. like Josh Allen has the ability to run. power and speed. Has the ability to. throw very far and has touch. has a. teammates's locker room uh that loves.

him and uh works his ass off seemingly. from all accounts that we've been able. to witness from the outside. He becomes. the prototype. Was it always a high. football IQ operation with Josh Allen as. well? Tone has a question for you. Yeah, I mean we uh we actually showed uh. yesterday on the show Brian Dayall. running through quarterbacks through. last year's draft board work and stuff. like that. You're shaking your head so I. assume you saw it. Was Dayball doing. that to Josh and those quarterbacks back. then in 2018? Yeah, I mean we we had a. whole thing and what we said we were.

going to do was we were going to treat. each quarterback the same as far as how. you test them, what test they're going. you're going to send them. Like Dave. would teach them stuff and then send. them a test and then when we got there. they would have to perform a test on. their own like a a written test and then. we go in a meeting room and Dave all. would would teach him stuff on the board. and have them go up there and some of it. would be timed some of it wouldn't but. Josh I mean he just you know no one. picked it up quicker. no one. And and. there were some at least were some smart. guys, but um he really stood out from a.

mental standpoint, which was impressive. He was definitely smarter than, you. know, I would have imagined a rookie. would have been at that time. And and so. it was just a matter of this guy had. played at junior college in Wyoming. And. some of these other guys had played at. more major programs. So how long would. it take him to transition in? Honestly, we were hoping his first year that we. didn't have to put him out there right. away. Week one, we didn't. We got smoked. and guys in the locker room were looking.

around like, "Hey, put that wild Bronco. running practice field. Throw him on the. field. We'd rather lose with him than. than what we're doing right now." Yeah, I remember him jumping over Minnesota. Vikings. I remember that one cuz the guy was. standing straight up seemingly it was. like that was his second start. Yeah, he. he we lost to the Chargers his first. start at home and um you know it wasn't. pretty but he kept fighting made some. plays at the end and then we were like. 17 18 point underdogs going to Minnesota.

and same thing that's that's when the. leap you know took off. Okay. So um you. talk about him being great in that. dayball meeting. We were watching those. dayball meetings and it was like gez. that would be you got no ball. I mean. you're going to find you're going to get. exposed in there if you don't know bowl. Like that's going to be very evident. I. don't need you to bury anybody. obviously. Okay. But story of this. draft, one of them, especially on uh. networks I believe you were watching. Shador Sanders drops from like top three.

pick to a fifth round draft pick to the. Cleveland Browns. People thought the. Cleveland Browns are going to take him. number two. They take him into fifth. round actually. So then there was. anonymous reports which we all hate. Just like let everybody know. Anonymous. reports, anonymous sources get out and. say I agree. I hate that too. It affects your job too a lot though, doesn't it? Yeah. Let's just if we're. going to do anonymous, let's just say it. out if we're going to take shots at. people. Boom. This is what I'm saying. Okay. So, you probably heard this. So, anonymous sources were telling people. that he had like the worst meetings that.

have ever happened or worst meeting team. one-on-one meetings that have ever. happened. How would a meeting go bad if. a meeting was to go bad? And what does. that mean if that is true from what his. anonymous sources are saying in your. eyes? In your world, not with Shidor, but in your world if it's ever happened. Yeah. You know, I don't know. I would. say maybe if if a guy was just kind of. halfassing it through the like, hey, you. know, sometimes you see, hey, my my work. spoke for itself, like they're kind of.

not like you either like me or you. don't, you know, kind of thing. I I. could see that happening. You know, beyond that, the only thing that could. really hurt would be where if you don't. think mentally, you know, you have to be. very smart. You got to be able to call. the play, understand the play, you got. to know where everyone's lining up. You. got to be able to know what the defense. is going. There's so much mentally on. these quarterbacks plate. And so there. is a threshold that you're like, man, I. don't know if that guy is smart enough. to run our offense at the at the level. that we that would be the only other.

than being disrespectful or nonchalant. like, you know, take me if you like me. If you don't, then I'm fine. You know, that would be the only other way. What. an interesting thing because there's. stories of like Payton interviewed teams. whenever he was coming out allegedly. That's allegedly uh that was like the. old fairy tale or folklore about what. happened. Then Gronk said he had a. terrible meeting. Horrible. Horrible. Fell asleep. Fell asleep. Yeah. With the. New England Patriots one somehow and he. got drafted there. And then you hear.

stories of these types of meetings. happening. And then a guy who was. supposed to be a top five ends up in the. fifth round. I mean that that was a wild. Yeah. That was a wild wild situ. We had. a quarterback one year in Carolina that. we brought in. I'm not going to name. him. Um and he met up with a receiver. that he knew. They were they didn't play. at the same college, but we had the. receiver in on these 30 visits. They met. up and they went out the night before. The receiver was flying out and he was. supposed to meet with us and we couldn't.

find him for like 3 hours that morning. He was he was in his room and he was. passed out and so we uh we put him on a. plane. Yeah. Yeah. That's a bad meeting. I guess that would be a bad meeting. there. So that was a a no meeting. Uh, and we we took him off the draft board, but he did he did get drafted. He. probably learned a lesson and uh yeah, he played in the league. I had to say he. did play in the league. He played in the. league. Uh, it didn't turn out great, but he did play. Did it what did it turn.

out how you were projecting it? Um, after that probably. So, oh, not. before that though. Thought was going to. be potentially great. Yeah, I had some. talent. Yeah, he wasn't a great athlete, but a pocket a pocket passer with a with. a strong arm. It'll get you it'll get. you it'll get you down in Charlotte. You. know, Charlotte will get you a good kind. down. It's a good kind down there. Uh Ty. has a question for you, Mr. Bean. Yeah, Bean. Just curious. I know you guys. don't really give a [ __ ] about draft. grades, nor should you, but I I'll have.

you know that you guys are pretty much. getting praised from. Congratulations. Wow, what a job. Everybody thinks you knocked it out of. the park, but are is there any point. like throughout your career where. immediately after the draft you either. have like I don't want to say regrets, but like you're uneasy about it or do. you always feel great about the picks. you made postdraft just because you know. you you are you're okay with how much. work you put in on your board going into. the draft? Yeah, I mean we're genuinely.

excited about the guys we got. copy. stack our board. Especially if you trade. up and get a guy like, man, I really. like that guy. But there's always times. where you're like, man, a guy's fallen. to you and it's a perfect match with a. position you need and someone trades. right in front of you or, you know, the. team in front of you, you had no idea. You're kind of paying attention to their. needs. You don't think they really care. for them and you sit there and and they. take them. That happens, you know, you. know, to most every team, I'm sure, and.

it's definitely happened to us. Those. are some of the ones you're like, man, should I have traded up five picks and. secured that guy? And that's that's kind. of why my history of a trader is like. I'll tell myself, listen, at some point. here I'm going to be mad if this guy. goes. I know some people are going to. say I shouldn't trade up, but I just. want to go to bed tonight and know I got. this player. And so those are probably. the biggest, you know, right after the. draft. Now listen, two years later, you're always studying and and the guys. that worked either on your team or.

another team and the guys that didn't. and you're and you're trying to evaluate. your process. Did you did why did you if. a guy's doing better than you thought, what's the situation? What did that. happen? You're you know, you're always. trying to learn from it. And so there. there's also separate of the immediate. kind of self-grading how how the draft. went. There's always a couple two or. three years down you're like, man, if I. had if I knew that now, I would have. taken that guy. Um, you know, or. something like that. I respect the how. did I miss this? How did I confuse one.

with the other and then trying to figure. that out for future drafts? That's the. part that I never even considered. That's the most important part of the. entire thing, it feels like. How does it. feel like the team did? Were they uh. morale high? Everybody take a break? What What is the scouting department? What is after the draft happens? What. does the scouting department do now that. just their Super Bowl has ended, right? Yeah. So, uh, we send the the college. crew back home for a few weeks and then. meet up. Go live. Go see your family. Live their life. Hug their hug hug their.

wives and kids and and all that good. stuff. And, uh, they got about 3 weeks. off and then we kind of restart getting. ready for the 26. Your ass back out. there. Okay. You got about three weeks. and then we're Nick. Okay. We need to. find We need to find We're chasing. greatness here in a new stadium, too. Yeah. Connor, one more year. What have. you been hearing? What have you been. hearing? I I heard, and this is just. through the grapevine, that the uh. Buffaloos have been shrunk down to the. bison. The the bison have been shrunk. down to 5 foot. No. No way. They're.

going to be tiny. That's not the case. People are going to be able to ride. them. No, you're not riding bison. Yeah. Yeah. You can put put a quarter in and. it'll move to a pony. Yeah. No one said. No one said you're putting a quarter in. It's doing the pony ride. That's what. those two radio hosts said. Yeah. Jeremy. and Jo. Yeah. Yeah. Where how are where. are we in the We're a year away from. that. And we're a year away. Yep. Have. the bison been started of construction. because I if they have, we need an. update. If they haven't, I assume.

there's going to be updates. Mhm. Because I've been, believe me, I've been. lobbying. I've been lobbying hard to. make sure these things are big. I told. him I put my name out there with you. guys. So, uh, it's we're still working. on it. I you know what size do we are we. looking for here? We have 20 body is 30. ft. We have 40 50 ft. I don't The dims I. think you guys are at 18, right? Isn't. it 18? Yeah. Yeah. The stomach is 12. Need to go over 20. The head is 18. Yeah. I think if you could say it was a. 20ft bison. Yeah. I think that is the. goal. Don't you think? Yeah. Two.

stories. Oh yeah. How many of them are. there? Three of them too. Are they like. running? Right. They're doing a run. Yeah. I think there's three of them. A. herd. Oh my god. A herd. A 20ft bison. Well, there's a little baby got her. So, the baby the baby I I don't think that. that's the photo. The family. Yeah, that's fine. I don't think Yeah, the two. I think the parents the parent bison. mama and papa bison if you will. If we. if we get these bison to size, are you. guys coming for the unveiling of this. thing or like Oh, yeah. Got it. Yeah. Only if that happens. Yeah, we're.

getting house. No, we would come. You. come. When's it going to be? Uh, it the. stadium opens like next July. July 26th, I think. Walk it in. Perfect. Walk it. in. We'll play around of golf with you, too. Julie, let's go. Well, I would like. to go to the driving range with you, too, the night before. Mhm. Okay. July. 4th. You host us for dinner at your. house. Real handicap. Yeah. I'm in. I'm. in. Let's go. Get up here. July 4th in. Buffalo. Could play. Yeah. Right there. on that lake. Uhhuh. Lake Erie. And then.

I'm getting golf lessons from Bean. Who's a stick? How are you playing now? Now's the time you're playing, huh? I. got to get going. I got to I got some. some events coming up. So, I need to get. my swing going. Events. Got to go shake. some hands. Make a championship play. this year. All right, ladies and. gentlemen. Thank you for your time, man. We really do. Congrats on a great draft. We assume we'll tell you that in two or. three years. You're the man. General. manager of the Buffalo Bills, friend of. the program, Brandon Bean. Thank you, man.

See you. See you. What a dog. Legend. I. didn't As we're in the middle of that. conversation, I was like, "Oh, yeah. This is a great conversation to have. right now. This is the conversation we. should be having with them. Your entire. draft process. Which I feel like I just. learned a lot about the Buffalo Bills. draft. Oh yeah. They got three weeks and. then we're guess what? Back in it. 26. Who's going to be the next? Yeah. Cuz we. got Bison coming in 26. Mhm. 20 Bison I. think is the right play. Have to do it. Have to do it. One of them has to crack. 20. Yeah. All right. We'll be back on.

the other side. We got Lesne Sneed in. the second hour. And AJ Hawk. Me and a. friend. Tell a friend something nice. It. might change their life. All roads leading to Eugene and I can't. help but say. [Applause]. [Music]. [Applause]. hey. You make me want to jump. Put my. hands up and keep my heels up and all. again now.

[Applause]. [Music]. [Applause]. A little bit now. A little bit now. A. little bit softer now. A little bit. something now. A little bit now. A. little bit now. A little bit louder. Now. a little bit louder now. A little bit. louder now. A little bit louder now. A. little bit louder. now. It's awesome. It's a great day in.

Oregon. We got. [Applause]. to wait. We. are We. are We are. Thank you. [Applause].

I love I love this stuff. and. Captain. [Applause]. B. Yeah. Hell yeah. Hell yeah. Hell. yeah. Love it. We got engineers. We got. doctors. We got. economists. We got real tests that have. real real implications happening. And all of these sons of said, "Give me.

college." Dame. dang instead of. studying. I had some questions about. coming out here to Berkeley. But after. experiencing it, it is very evident that. this is one of the best cities in this. year United States of. America. USA. USA, USA, USA, USA, USA, USA, USA, USA.

And this represents everything that is. great with this country, with our sport. It doesn't matter which way you view the. world. It doesn't matter which part of. the country you're from. College. football runs through our soul. And that. is what a celebration today is all. about. I am thankful to be here amongst. these nerds and future geniuses and. future people that are going to run this.

place. It's an honor to be in Berkeley. It's foggy. I think there's some The. following program is a collection of. stoes talking about happenings in the. sports world. It is meant to be comedic. informative. The opinions expressed on. this show do not necessarily reflect the. beliefs of their peers, their boss or. ESPN. There may be some cuss words. because that's how humans in the real. world talk. If you are a young, please. seek permission before watching any.

further. Hey, let's go. This show stinks and the fact that you. listen, we are very, very thankful for. McAfee on the line with a gorgeous. assist. The alltime leading tackler for. the Green Bay Packers. You pick. Damn it. Tell your friend tell a friend. something nice could change their life. [Applause]. [Music].

Hello, beautiful people and welcome back. to our humble abode. the Thunderdome on. this glorious I guess I'm fighting. gother next week Tuesday April 29th 2025. hour two starts. now sports basically sometimes you got. to do what you got to do and there's. chance you're going to get your ass. kicked but if you don't do it who are. you coward so my friend got attacked I. stood up for him guy got banned I asked. for the band to be lifted shout out to. Nick Ais he lifts the band I got a match.

with Gunther who bullied the greatest. commentator in the history of wrestling, Michael Cole, right in front of my eyes. I don't like it one bit. He also threw. me around here. I I will say there was a. lot of wires. Oh, yeah. About wires and. chair stuff. And I'm in those boots, you. know. I'm in those boots and how it all. he's slippy. Thank you for that. He. didn't know. But nonetheless, he's an. intimidating man. He's a strong man. He. was world champion about a week ago. Not. that intimidating. The guy Yeah. I mean, he would have attacked you when you were.

looking at him if he was that on point. Yeah, you're right. I mean, his aura is. certainly one of intimidation, though. I'll tell you. I've been in the arena a. few times with him, and when you see. him, he's certainly But hey, listen, bub. I ain't scared. Come get some. Got new. tariffs on Austria. Couple 100%. Couple of days. No, I've. been working. I've been working. Uh I've. been running. I've got a lot of things. going on. I even got a uh special uh. treadmill uh anti-gravity treadmill so I.

could run again, you know, because uh. I've only had like four surgeries, five. surgeries on my knees, you know. I. kicked a ball against the side of my. house for a hobby as a kid. I didn't. play video games, so the amount of kicks. of balls of things uh is is high. Played. soccer obviously for a long time. Then. obviously I kicked and punted in college. and then I punted and kicked off in the. NFL. So, I have a lot of surgeries on. these. Had a dislocated patella the last. uh nine games of my uh last year of my.

season. May Pro Bowl made Pro Bowl with. it being said. Knees though have a lot. of missing stuff. I'm not the only one. A lot of people have this issue that are. athletes in this thing. So, I make this. uh they make this treadmill that. basically gets you back on there. 85% of. your weight. take a little bit of the. weight off so that the the uh meniscus. that is missing from your knee and in. between your joints and your bones, it. can be kind of be softened a little bit. I'm back to I feel I'm back to jumping. We were jumping the other day in Coach. McCarthy's barn. It's like I I feel I.

feel very very good about uh where I. stand as a physical being at this point. It's a uh fun little place to be. I feel. like I'm Darius Butler. Wow. That's why. I feel like I'm Darius Butler. Not as. jacked obviously. I'll be there I think. in uh maybe a month or so. I'll be in a. month or so. Month? Yeah, I think so. Wait, we What's today? You got got like. days, brother. No, no, but I'm talking. about looking jacked. I'm talking about. being jacked. You know, I'm I'm having. I'm having some padding for Gunther. Sure.

There's shots coming. You know, I got to. I should maybe even think about bulking. Bulking up maybe in the next couple. weeks. Okay. to take on the maybe I wear. what if I wore 50 tank tops or football. pads. Maybe the maybe the flag the flag should. pad padding. Yeah. Then we can even put. some on right here for like a metal. plate right there or something. Yes. I. don't know if that would be legal. Hey,

I think that would be Is this a no holds. bar? baby. I It's just sanctioned match, I believe, cuz I asked for a fight. Sanction and it was a sanctioned match. in WWE ring. I think I should layer up. I think I should layer up up on top now. That just hit my mind. I think we should. have been thinking this couple city. street fight. Uh, it's a St. Louis. It's. not a St. Louis street fight either, but. thank god it is just a sanction WW. lunatic street fight. The Arch City. Street fight. Are you talking about an M. I crooked letter? Crooked letter O. I.

want to end it better. Hey. Yeah. You. can find me. What a run Nelly had and the St. Lunatics. Yeah. Unbelievable. They loved. Air Force Ones. They did. Still do. Boom. Thank you to the St. Lunatics, you. know, for the introduction. Oh, yeah. To. the all-white Air Force Ones. Joining us. now, ladies and gentlemen, is a man who. uh is going to give me motivational. speeches every single day.

until my match next weekend in St. Louis. That's the type of guy he is. That's the type of friend he is. I'm. thankful for him. He's a college. football national champion, a Super Bowl. champion, a Rder Cup winner. Ladies and. gentlemen, AJ Hawk. Can't wait. AJ, now is your time to kind. of deliver your positive message from me. just uh you know, less than two weeks. away from a big match with Gunther. Well, I I did see it. First off, that. was a great uh you know, standing on the. desk. great promo to the whole arena and.

to all the WWE universe. That was uh. that was a thing of beauty. It's not. easy to do, that's for sure. But I don't. think you need any motivation for this. guy. You know that. Like he's like the. big strong silent type that wants to. slap your chest. Ty was right. Get a. metal plate with some spikes underneath. your tank top. He goes to chop you once. That's the last time he chops you. I'm. saying stuck to me now. You said spikes. underneath there. Blood everywhere. A. little shocker. You need the spikes. There you go. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I I. probably catch it. Maybe a stem. Maybe I. do put a little ice and stem in there. Yeah, I know those things in here. We.

Oh, I was warming up. Those from when I. was warming up. He He doesn't just drop. you there, though, too. I mean, he's got. kicks. Yeah. Yeah. He He got He's got an. arsenal. He's got an arsenal that he can. attack you with. He flies through the. sky. He does. Flies through the sky. Big. man fall hard though. He's so big. Yeah, you're right. I got to I got to Yeah, we. got to move. We got to move, don't we? This is. classic. I got to move. playing that. I. got to move distance with the jab and. then get out. Okay. Agile hostile. I. have to tire him out. Maybe I have to.

throw some sweet signs in there. You. know what? I have I have to do this for. Michael Cole. Yes, you do it for Cole. Got to do it for Cole. Do it for Cole. Are you going to wear maybe his single. single as kind of a tribute? I don't. know afterwards. That might be one of. the layers. What are you talking about? You think I'm going out there with one. layer on that can hold it all together? Was Cole supporting you after? What do. you mean? He was like he was kind of. questioning your decision making which. Yeah. Well, I think he was at because I. talked to him afterwards. I'm like, "What is your problem? Why you do it?". Yeah. Bingo. That's what I thought. And. then afterwards, he said, "I don't want.

you to have feel like you have to do. this because of me." No, he's worried. Yeah. Yeah. Seems like he is a bit. worried. Don't be worried, Cole. We know. what we signed up for. How's he going to. call the fight? I mean, I know he's done. it before, but it's going to be tough. for him to call that fight. He's an. unbiased journalist. Yeah. He'll be. right down the middle. He's not making a. pick before you. He's got a Syracuse. University degree, brother. That's true. Oh, that thing right there in the. middle. Like Herby calling Ohio State. You should have seen me run last night. I'm running on this thing. Smacking the. [ __ ] out of myself. I like it. Got to.

get ready. Smacking the [ __ ] out of. myself. Need it. Just like cuz I mean. that could take your breath away. I was. in uh War Games match. Yeah. With the. entirety of the undisputed era if you do. recall. Of course. And uh I got hit with. a chair there. Boom. Chair right to the. back. Okay. Holy [ __ ] that that one, you know, and then I turn and Kyle. O'Reilly. Oh. Goes, "Oh, yeah." And I uh. Oh, yeah. He gives me a left kick to my. gut. Yeah. He caught me out of you. Yeah.

Caught the wind out of me. And I was. like, "Oh, we're. we're fighting in here." I I I didn't I. did not know everything. We are We are. Yeah. We are fighting in here. And it. was it was war games. I put somebody. threw a table through there. hit. somebody with a chair off the side of a. cage in that thing. I went off the top. of the cage hit that thing. I don't I. think they fell from the rattle from me. hitting the the mat clean. Right. I saw. another video similar to that uh on the.

internet. I think the rattle from. hitting the ground. Some big bumps. There's some big bumps going around the. internet now in this this wrestling. world, man. Yeah. The algorithm has. tapped into uh into the wrestling world. And. uh that dude doing a swanon front flip. Jeez Louise. Jeez Louise. Yeah. Off the. Moose down there. AJ Francis down there. I forget the whole group. There's a. obviously that's a lot of popped out. Yeah. Yeah. AJ ripped his arm off cuz I.

mean that is clear. That's a devastating. Well, that's what he was trying to do to. him. He was trying to rip everybody's. arms off. Like that gorilla. Like that. gorilla. Have we slept? We've slept on. it. Yeah. Weed whip. I think I'm on I. think I'm on team human. But I think I'm. just watching. I don't think I'm one of. the 100. No, no, no, no. What? Yeah. I. think Oh, you're not signing up. No, no. I'm going to watch, but I I think the. humans win about 75 die. Okay. So, 76. with the gorilla. Got to be done. Okay.

So, how do you select who the first is. there a random drawing? How do you I. mean, the first the first 50 might as. well just be complete birds that don't. care. They don't matter. Don't give up. They're all getting They're all getting. sacrificed. Don't give up 50. I think we. give up 10 first. No, there's a 10 good. men. Okay. And we appreciate their. services to the human. They're on a. death mission. Those first 10, they're. gone. They're high. We watch them. Yeah. We We watch them. Everybody's got to be. on meth. All the humans, all 100 need to. be on. We need brains. We need people.

locked in. I think you go to a pen. No, you need zombies. Get 100 guys, hey, you. want to get out early? Whoever can get. the eyes. movie death, what you uh say, Fox, whoever can get the eyes, whoever can. get the eyes, they have to go first. You. got to get the eyes first. What's the. foxy? Well, I know. That's why you need. a tactician in there. You need a high. flyer. You need someone that can jump on. the head, get the eyes out, and then you. keep it moving. More which I my favorite. thing here is uh the more humans think. about it, the more humans are all in on.

us winning. Hey, shout to us. Team on. us. Team on us. 1 2 3. Team team. I'm. not on us. I'm not with us. Gorilla. No. Come on now. You tell the the first guy. runs up there, gets his arms and legs. ripped off, and then everyone else turns. and runs. No, we got the 100 right men. Right. Yeah. Like the old Mike Tyson. fight. Yeah. Until someone gets their. arms ripped off in front of you. Those. people know that's happening to them. Okay. until it happens in front of you.

I think it might be a little different. than in theory and how it feels like it. might. Okay, I'm going to just keep. going no matter what. I'm fighting. blinders, brother. We got to execute. We. can also send a guy with no arms. Yeah. The night before, by the way, guess what. they're watching for hype videos. People. getting their arms and limbs ripped off. Hey, you're going to see us tomorrow. So, so get mentally prepared. Gorillas. are only 5 foot, like 400 lb. It's. basically like fighting Jay Glazer. Okay. Which I think they're a little taller. than that either. Bunch of people versus Jay Glazer. Speaking of, hold on. Speaking of um we.

have a trailer for a uh fight movie that. I think is going to be unbelievable. Yeah. Debuting in October. Uh trailer. released this morning for Smashing. Machine. Probably looking at my eyes. How'd that happen? Well, have you ever heard of the. Ultimate Fighting Championship, the UFC? [Applause].

That's the bloody thing they're trying. to ban right now. This guy is the best. he has ever seen. Do you hate each other. when you fight? Absolutely not. How do you know Mark Ker? The end is. near. [ __ ] We go way back, but he's a. buddy of mine. Come on, baby. Too much. Never too much. No. Please welcome in. his octagon. debut, Mark.

Winning is the best feeling there is. It's 40,000 people and they're cheering. you on. There's no other high like it in the. world. No contract, no money. No money. Do you. have any stronger pain medication? Adir. Advil. Yeah. Yeah. Don, would you like No. They're handing. him out like candy.

Let's all get in. Let's all Everybody. get in. Yeah. Don, could you take this. picture for us? Yeah. What are you. thinking at the beginning of the fight? It's simple. Am I going to hurt him. before he hurts me? Yes, there were. I'm showing. you this Grand Prix to crown the. greatest fighter in the. world. He has come back from the brink.

Let's see if he can pull out a victory. over Mark. Coleman. Have you spoken to either about. fighting such a good friend for a. life-changing amount of money? I just need you to let me in. I took. them. Always about you. Only about. [ __ ] you. You. Let's [ __ ].

go. Extrone. I love you. Think he'd want your autograph? Sure. No. problem. No fighting. October 3rd. Hey, that's like a real. he's that's like uh because he's got. this Mob movie coming up as well. That. feels like uh super serious acting for. The Rock. And uh the amount of. commitment I heard behind the scenes. working out, the whole buyin for him.

from Wrestlemania season all the way. through I think like eight, nine months. or whatever. I mean, it was like a uh. full life commitment from The Rock. Emily Blunt, obviously a big deal, but. from what I'm watching there, this is. gonna be like a p like they're a power. movie. It feels like Yeah, for sure. I. mean, you can obviously still tell it's. The Rock, but like in all his movies, like it's Dwayne Johnson on the on the. poster. Like that's kind of the point of. it is like, hey, you want to see The. Rock in like a big action movie? Like. he's kind of unrecognizable there,

especially in some parts of like that. trailer. It's like, wow. Like he, you. know, he like the amount of makeup he. probably had to do. And then you have. A24, the studio that's doing it, they. put out a lot of like kind of prestige. uh type movies. Benny Safty, the guy who. wrote it and direct it. Him and his. brother, they did uh Uncut Gems. And. they've did they've done like uh uh like. movies like that that are I don't want. to say awards fodder, but you can tell. like this is completely different than. anything The Rock has been in up to this. point in his career. So, he's got a.

Godfather movie coming out and he's got. this movie coming out. Moana is going to. be good forever. Yeah. Live action. Live. action. Moana's good forever. Terramana. delightful. Papa is unbelievable. Zoa. Zoa juice. Yeah. Got a new line of. project shoes. Jeez Louise. Still bringing it. And his. social media. Got it. Yeah. Still bring. And his social media is the what? He's. the big biggest most followed American.

male will like see the announcement. It's absolutely wild. And he's the final. boss. He's the final boss truly and high. chief and I chief most importantly for. now. I. don't see I don't know I don't know did. you see what Seth freaking Rollins was. doing last I did all right let's talk a. little football George KD got signed to. be 4year 76.4 $4 million deal. 19.1. million per year. AJ, your thoughts on. George getting paid into busting with.

the boys boys breaking the news. Yeah, I. did. I I like Will, you know, taking Ian. for a walk like he does. That was that. was nice to see him to to get his uh get. the recognition they deserve. But yeah, was this ever a question though? Like I. this seems like common sense to me that. they would get George signed like this. Uh I don't know. He missed something. There was a conversation wasn't. happening. There was reports that there. was maybe a little bit of a a thing. happening contractually, but yeah, I. feel like George KD is the San Francisco. 49ers kind of heartbeat. And I think. he's beloved by everybody over there.

from what we understand. We know the NFL. loves him. And then you looked at his we. looked at his stats for the first time. since the season. Yeah. Did you know he. was first in yards per game? I didn't. I. know until he does so much that, you. know, doesn't necessarily show up on the. stat sheet, too. like he's like an extra. old lineman in the run game and whenever. he's the only thing that has ever gotten. in his way is health if it's some. injuries but as long as he's been. healthy he's always been in the. conversation as the best tight end in. the league obviously you have Travis. Kelce and what he's been able to do not.

only regular season but postseason been. able to step it up huge Super Bowl. moments but George KD was unbelievable. in both phases of the games and uh you. know obviously he's a great locker room. guy as well oh I forgot about him being. a pancaker yeah and laughing about it. from day one grader and any Shanahan. offense is going to need a runner, you. know. So, that's a big deal. AJ George. KD is a uh he's a he's a. you say Yeah, you can almost say that. for real. A guy that can block as well. as he does, but also is such a threat.

Has is so productive in the pass game. Yeah, man. They don't they don't make. him like this very often. And his vibes, he's old school, but so upbeat. Saw him. at WrestleMania a few times. So much. fun. Chug the beer as soon as he gets on. there. Still absolutely jacked and. shredded. got a chance to hang out with. him and uh Claire and a couple of their. friends after Mania. Good vibes, just. great vibes. Immaculate vibes comes from. KD. I assume he's like that in the. locker room. And that is a gift whenever. it comes to a long NFL season. Yeah, gift for Perty, too. So now they're.

saying Pery uh is next up in the $50. million range. And it wasn't expected. until they traded Debo because there was. that conversation last year, hey, they. have all these guys coming up. They got. to make a couple decisions. They move. Debo KD's first and now um they're. saying Pery should get done within the. next few weeks uh in the $50 million. club. Okay. So, congratulations to uh. all quarterbacks. Congrats, Brock Party too. Mr. Irrelevant. Mhm.

They did uh it's nice to revisit that. And did you see they brought out uh it. was celebration the Mr. Irrelevant. I. don't know what company it was. Should. have. It was definitely a sponsored. thing. Oh yeah, cuz it was for New. England, too. I forget the company. [ __ ] They said, "Come out and see us in. somewhere in California cuz I think they. have a parade for Mr. Relevant and give. him the I think he gets a watch." I was. I was eyeing Mr. Pretty close. Ryan. suckup kicker South. Carolina got drafted to the Kansas City. Chiefs. I think I don't.

know. I think. potentially they were thinking about it. from what I was being told. So, I was. learning about this Mr. Relevancy as the. RA uh draft was rolling on parade. I. think you get a ring, a watch. Oh, I. think there's like a I think there's. like a full-on community like if you. want to buy into the entire thing. So, that was back whenever I was coming out. So, then you know, you go through the. years, I'm like, has that died off a. bit? And then when Brock Party uh does.

such a good job, it almost gets. overplayed then like, all right, Mr. Relevance overplayed now. One of the. best quarterbacks in the entire league. was picked last. We get it. Which goes. back to the point of the draft. It. doesn't matter where you get drafted. It's just a matter of what you do when. you get there. It's just that you're in. a building. It's the only thing that. matters. Joining us now is a man who's. picking who's coming and going from his. building. General manager of the Los. Angeles Rams. Ladies and gentlemen, listening. [Music]. [Applause]. How's it going, guys? Is there a. drawing? Is there a drawing? I can't. see. Is there a drawing over your. shoulder?

You know what? We You know what? Hold on. one second. I'll leave the screen. It's. right here. There we go. Okay. I thought I caught it, but we took. it down. It was It was, you know, the. the building said, "You know what? We've. had enough. Take that one down. Go back. to go back to the DL." You know what I. mean? I like that. Celebrate. Who needs. a has been punter on the wall? Amen, brother. Uh, put that D lineup that's. incredibly young and is an absolute. problem for the NFL for the rest of. time, we would assume. How do you feel.

coming out of the draft? And uh before. we get into that, shout out to you guys. for doing your draft at a firehouse I. believe there in Los Angeles. And uh I. assume that that was a very cool. interaction for everybody for all. parties. And uh anytime you can showcase. some appreciation to the badasses who. are serving our communities, especially. firefighters. I have uh family members. that are firefighters. We're talking. about sprinting towards, you know, the. flames. You know that flames are a. natural run away from her for everybody.

Every our repellent. Everybody runs away. from flames. Firefighters run towards. them at all times. So, uh, mad respect, especially with everything going on out. there for you guys to do that. How'd. that idea come about? And, uh, what was. it like as an experience? You know, it was very, I think living. it, it was the ideas on paper was like, wow, this is really cool based on all. that Callie's been through. Not. necessarily this year, but in but. California is used to this. Like as you. said, mother nature throws its best.

pitch and and these first responders run. right toward it. So, but going there and. living it with them, they I can't even. paint the picture of how really really. cool and emotion cuz they really. appreciated it. They do some all like. you said when you we we I think Sean and. I did that that that video and there was. a whole thing about making that call and. I think at the end of the day when you. when we dial that number to call them. we're not we're not calling them to say. you know what we appreciate all you do.

We're calling them to go oh my mother. nature's coming at us. We're going to. run the other way but we need you to run. into it. So uh that's an important call. They are badasses. Badasses. I and I. think, you know, I don't I don't think. I've ever been for an air fire. department. Um, never been in there. A. lot of good chefs in there, you know, cuz they're all cooking. Some of them. cook for each other. Our draft room, obviously, it's a fire. station. And and it was a it was a big. hanger cuz it's where the helicopters, it's where they go fight fight the fire,

you know, the let's call it the the the. wildfires or whatever we call them out. here. So, big hanger, but there was a. kitchen right there. And what was it? They were always cooking. They were they. have a wait room. They're kind of like. you. They you know they're wearing some. tank tops. Look a little buff. Love the. boys. And then what was really cool was. at the end of the night all of them did. the cleaning. Like all of a sudden we. were leaving the firehouse. That's the. that was one of the moments like wow I. think I am spoiled cuz as we were. leaving everyone who was there fighting.

fire by day on call at night you know. what they're mopping the floors they're. cleaning up. really really I think we. could all go to spend a year with the. fire department and get better people on. the other side of that. Hell yeah. Thanks for your service. Hell yeah. Thanks for your service. Give them give. them Okay, we'll talk about your first. pick that you made from the fire. department. Uh you go with a tight end. Why was this uh your decision? Was it. best available in your eyes or are we. trying to load up even more on an. offense that is already successful?

Little bit of both. I think we went into. the draft, especially where we were. positioned uh back in the late part of. the first round and and often call it. the cost of winning sometimes cuz you're. picking you're always picking a little. later than you want. But we did have. some positions that we thought would. help us more and if the right player. fail at those positions, let's let's go. attack. And and I think obviously we we. have a really we have a really good. tight end room. We have a lot of. veterans. Everyone in our room right now. has played football. Tyler Higgny's been.

with us uh since Shawn's been here. But. uh I know there's an element of Tyler. being at the end of his career who's. going to replace him and then just. adding another tight end to the field. I. think when when Shawn McVey came to us. uh from the uh Washington, they weren't. the commanders then. Don't know if I. could say their old nickname those days. Football team. Yeah, the football team. Well, they did a lot of 12 personnel, so. maybe we we'll we'll add a little bit of. that to our repertoire, but end of the. day, good position. We like the player.

as well person. I love whenever you. think about getting even more dynamic, especially whenever you're talking about. a Shawn McVey offense and Matthew. Stafford there for yet another year in. that offense. They seemingly know each. other inside and out at this point. Get. him another weapon. Go ahead, AJ. Les, I. believe you guys traded up three times. on day three. Can you talk us through. like what kind of I guess how that. happens and continues to happen. throughout that day and is is that. pretty chaotic? I would assume that kind. of keeps your attention and keeps you. locked in on every single pick. It. definitely kept our attention. I think.

it was a draft and and it's it's cool. you made that point, AJ, that we we went. into the draft thinking, you know what, we're going to probably trade back. That's that's probably a scenario that's. very probable. But we also felt like we. would be gaining picks in in this draft. It was just fortunate for us that the. Falcons really wanted to move into the. first round. So, we delayed our. gratification when we were when they. were when they gave us that future first. round pick. So, we delayed. gratification. We passed a little bit of. the marshmallow test and we received the.

pick uh for next year, but we lost a. pick this in this year's draft when we. had already been a one short uh with the. the pick we gave for Fisk last year. So, I called this draft. Once we were down a. pick, it was like, uh-oh, our board's a. little thinner. If it was a baseball. game, I would tell you this, AJ, you. know what we were going to do in this. draft? We were going to hit a single. We. were going to have to steal a base. We. were going to bunt the guy over the. third, and we were going to sack fly him. in. It was just one of those drafts. where you really had to work and.

maneuver to to to grab the players to. attack the players that you felt like. could come in and contribute in in a in. a role in a vision that we have for them. on the roster that we currently have. Okay. So, I didn't play baseball, but. the metaphor that you just gave. seemingly was, "All right, we're going. to give up a little bit here, but we're. going to get something." Basically, right? Yeah. Giving up two ops there, but you just got the guy home with one. hit. Mhm. Okay. I can't believe I'm. confused everybody. No, I'm not a. baseball confused everybody and you. just, you know, cleared it up for.

everyone. No, I was lally I was hoping. that I was right. Is that Is that what. he's saying? I'm not a baseball guy at. all. I know Paul SK sliced up the. Dodgers when he was playing him. Tell. your friends over there in Los Angeles. from what I've been saying. Uh from what. I saw at least. I don't know how great. it was. Yeah, I don't know baseball that. well, but that was a great like. indicator. Is it like that every draft. or just because of these specific. players and big boys seemingly getting. rewarded more in the draft? I think no. no doubt I think I mean that big boys. it's it's Bill Parcels you say it's a.

big man's game right but I think and not. every draft's like this if you have if. we would have had more picks sometimes. you can allow the draft to come to you. can wait on it a little bit and your. board's a little thicker instead of. thinner and and you can pick off players. that right there's a lot of buy in. because you every time you go to pick. there's there's always uh you know more. players on the board than one but based. on the nature of our board this draft. what positions we wanted. It was a. little bit thinner. So, we did feel. like, okay, we need to to score runs in.

this baseball game. We're going to have. to give up something. We're going to. give up some outs to score runs. But, you know what? We're going to count on. our pitching to hold the other team. down. Hey, AJ, if I was a defensive. coordinator right now, you'd be like, you know what? Can you just tell it? Give us something simple. Let us go play. football. You've confused the heck out. of us. That's a home run, I think. We. got it. We got it. We got it, Les. No. worries. We got it. Trust your process. This is good wood right now. Everything. that you're putting out there. Speaking. of Goodwood, how about Stoner down there. in Jacksonville? Did you hear his promo. whenever he introduced Travis Hunter and.

why he made the decision that he made to. trade up to two and give up what he gave. up? He said, you know, football is built. to have its boundaries be tested and. belief and everything. And he said, Travis Hunter is belief. Travis Hunter. is all this thing. And the way he sold. like it was a move. It was a statement. to all of Jacksonville. Amen. Did you. expect that? Did you expect that from. him? You know what? J James is really. gifted uh definitely with with let's.

call it a monologue, a prologue, whatever you want to call that. So, he's. gift for Gab. He's really good at it. I. mean, I I I would come on this show and. if I could, what did he say? Uh I forget. what he if I could embody my James. Gladstone, I would. I just don't have. that in me. Mom, Dad, God didn't give me. that gift, the gav like James did. But. he really did sell it. He's always been. a very articulate uh you know human. being. So, and he's been passionate. So, when he says something, he believes it. How do you feel about him moving up to. two and making that play for his team? You know, I I think that they were.

passionate about that player. I think. they wanted to not only add a football. player, but add competitiveness. uh to their ecosystem. So, they felt. like, right, you know what? We got to go. attack. Let's go, let's go grab this. player. Let's don't let the draft come. to us. Let's go get the person we want. that we think can not only help us on. Sundays but also add give an edge to the. culture they're trying to uh engineer. down there. Okay, let's talk about. somebody you added. Go ahead con man. Yeah, less uh Devonte Adams uh you guys. added after losing Cooper Cup and you.

know Puka Nakua gives up his 17 for. Devonte. Did uh Stafford have anything. to do with that in Devonte or what was. that process like bringing him in for uh. your squad this year? You know, Sean. always u uh let's call it collaborates. with Matthew on some of the skill and he. was definitely all for it. So, interestingly, I think Puka was going to. give up 17 for 12 before uh Devonte got. in the building. Maybe he should have. held that secret a little bit and maybe.

gotten Devonte to give him a tip for. that number, but he was already in the. process of going to 12 based on a family. history of that number. So, it's. perfect, right? Oh, man. We got jersey. 17 open. What NFL player can we sign who. wears 17? Holy cow. Let's go. Devonte. Adam. Oh, really? That's how it all. worked out, huh? That's how it all You. You know, it's a It's not It's not. always as complex as you think. Yeah. Uh. I actually got a box arrived from the. people at Los Angeles Rams facility over. there in LA. I have a Puka Nakua.

autograph 12. Okay. Jersey. Uh that the. letter said this might be one of the. first ones from Puka. So, shout out to. the 12. Looks nice. Looks real nice. 12. looks. I'm not used to that yet. I'm. just not used to it yet. Going to need. to see him catch some balls in there. But Oh, is it going to be weird for you. training camp? 17. Mhm. Just a little. bit different. You know, Cooper Cup went. from 18 to 10, so we had to get used to. that. Uh so I I think that, you know, we're going to have to get used to 17 to.

12. Tone has a question for you, Les. Yeah, Les, I do. Uh Jake Glazer reported. before the draft um that teams, you. know, normally have columns or things. for an injured player or based or. potentially, you know, off the- field. issues, but he said this year a lot of. teams it became more prevalent that they. had to add a category for doesn't love. ball. Um is that a real thing that's. happening in this NIL, Eric, because. guys have already been played. The teams. are now more focused on finding guys. that just love football.

That would be interesting if if if if we. added that because of NI NIL maybe it's. a little it's come to life a little more. because of NFL and all the or right or. you when you make a change and and I. want to say this I I think Sean Shawn. McVey would say say a good story I think. one time when he was a young coach and. he went to to uh maybe interview I. forget which tight end and the guy ended. up being a really good player and uh it. it might have been Niles Paul uh who. played tight in for them in in.

Washington all those years and he and. and Sean says I was trying to ask him if. he loved football, you know what I mean? And basically got down to money and and. I think Niles asked Sean, hey, would you. coach for free? So I don't want to ever. make money that you don't love uh. football. But I do think we're always. trying to find out if someone truly. loves football cuz if you truly love. football, if you truly love something, whether it's football, whether it's you. Pat in this show, hell yeah. If you love. something, if you're passionate about, you're probably gonna suffer, right?

You're gonna go through you're going to. go through stress and drudgery, right? To to have the Pat McAfee Show be one of. the best that it can be. That's cuz you. love it. Your Pat Same for football. players. If they love the game, if they. love their team, they love they're going. to suffer. They're going to sacrifice. they're going to give a and that usually. then compounds over time with all the. behaviors that go into right being a pro. and and not just being right on the. depth chart or not just you know hanging. around if we call it right eating food.

but not producing. Mhm. Yeah. Waste of. laundry detergent. The whole um how do. you know if a guy's a dog or not? Yeah, that's a you know what that's a that's a. great quote. What is even the definition. of dog? We even say sometimes, hey dog, is it is it a DA D AWG or a D O, right? And if you're in football, if you're in. a football locker room, you kind of know. it. And I do think there is this blend. of of a dog uh right, a positive dog, a. net positive D- AWG. I think there's an.

element of their behavior uh Monday. through Sa uh let's call it Monday. through Saturday. But a lot of times you. do see that doll come to life. I think. someone mentioned on your show uh Jared. Verse, right? you hey when you watch. Jared verse when we were playing uh. right the Vikings at Arizona in that. playoff game because of these fires. right I think anyone who tuned in that. game go wow Jared verse that defensive. line there's some dogs on that line and. and I I give that net positive yeah I.

think that's a net positive as well you. saying uh D AWG or DOG if you've ever. been in a building you know the answers. to these things I'll see a graphic every. once in a while and they'll say DOG on. it and I'm like we're not talking about. the right. We're not talking, you know, every now and then we say, you know. what, someone's just a pup and they're. growing into being, you. know, they're growing into their feet. Let's talk about your dogs on the D. line. AJ's smiling right now. He's. going, you know what? I remember this. guy. He got highly drafted back when we. were the Packers. And you know what? He.

was just a pup. He wasn't there yet. We. still hadn't owned the league. You could. just, you know, I could see a smile. I'm. not going to ask you to say who came to. your mind first, agent. Somebody. Who. was it? That's a good question, actually. That's a great question. I. don't know. I I don't know. I couldn't. tell. I have a hard time telling if. someone does love ball or not, but it's. I think sometimes people can oversell it. verbally that they love ball for sure. You can tell by their actions and how. they carry themselves. Less less, did. you know that AJ Hawk and [ __ ] the. fullback for what how many years? Nine.

years. Five years. Yeah. Eight or nine. Eight or nine years in the CTE era. Okay. Eight or nine years. uh AJ, middle. linebacker, him fullback for eight or. nine years together as teammates. Not. one time did either of them say, "Hey, today we don't have to go full go.". Jeez. Wednesday, Thursday. I assume fast. Friday you guys weren't doing that. though, right? No. No. We were smart. We. took care of each other. No, you didn't. That's exactly what you said you didn't. do. Wednesday, Thursday, 8 to nine years.

straight every single week. Boy, think. about that. That's how I run. No thanks. And that's what John Coon's head. You. can't brother-in-law John [ __ ] Look at. his head. Like there's no He knows one. speed. But whenever you say people can. sell that they love ball better than. they can show it. It's like eight to. nine years straight running your head. into a guy. This guy loves ball. You. know, you are looking for dogs that love. ball. And you talked about that Dline. Hebo just sent over some stats here to. put you over. Most sacks including. playoffs from the 2023 drafties. Number.

one, Will Anderson has 22 and a half. sacks. Number two, Kobe Turner, 20 and a. half sacks. Number three, Byron Young, 17 sacks. Well, how about the 2024. drafties? This is most sacks, including. playoffs. Braden Fisk, 10. Jared Verse, 6 and a half. Nobody else near them. So, four out of five there are your picks. Feels like you got the Dline figured. out. Feels like that is uh which we. talked to McCarthy uh during draft. night. Mike McCarthy, he said, "You need.

four ones at Dline. You need four ones. You need to be able to do 47. Obviously, that's what the Eagles were able to do. on defense. Dline very important. obviously. And why do you think you have. such a high hit rate? We've always. valued defensive line. We knew we we. needed to continue valuing especially. with when when when Aaron did when Aaron. Donald did decide to retire. I think I. mentioned it the last time I was on this. show that you know with those guys you. just mentioned we spent five top one.

picks on four players. So whether. they're ones, twos, what we do know is, you know what, they're our type of guy. They're they're Dawg's. They they they. get up the field. Uh they definitely try. to create a little stress and drudgery. on the QB. But we do think. philosophically the way the game is that. if you can especially as the game goes. over if if it's 60s something plays uh. that each team usually gets and and and. especially when you get play against. these elite QBs if you can have some. players up front that causes that QB. that offensive clock to to maybe get a.

little bit discombobulated. You got a. better chance of of beating that team. than you don't I'd say so. Yeah. You. know what I talk about love in football. though? Think about Kobe Turner. Kobe. Turner goes, "I'm gonna walk on at. Richmond." Okay, we're not not. University of Virginia, not V. I'm going. to Richmond. And then he does what he. does at Richmond. He says, "I'm gonna go. to Wake Forest." And then he's not even. going to get invited to the combine. So, oh, by the way, we're going to make the. pick. But that's someone who loves. football that he didn't have to play. No.

one paid his education to play. He. decided, I love it so much, I'm going to. Richmond to walk on. And you and every. one of those uh defensive linemen and. even the young man we drafted from. Michigan the other night, Josiah. Stewart, they all started at a let's. call it a lesser level of football. Whether it was Verse at Albany, whether. it was Fisk at Central Michigan, Western. Michigan, I'm going to get that wrong. Whether it's by uh at heck at Georgia. Military, whether it's Josiah Aos, they. all they all loved it enough that they.

were going to not let's go to the Power. Fives to start. they didn't have that. op. Let's go somewhere first and then. let's transfer up. So, that's one of the. positives of the transfer portal, per. se. I'll tell you what, that might be a. good trait to be looking for actually at. certain positions. Yeah. You know, like. having to grind through that and uh. wanting it. That's a want to type thing. there. That's a great trait to have, especially if you're looking for people. that love football. It's working for. you. Kobe Turner walked on at Richmond, you said. Uh now 20 and a half sacks.

Okay. In his first two years. Pretty. good. How about zero star Cam War? I. don't know if you saw him either. He can. sing pretty good. I think he did. Oh, yeah. You got to go back to Oh, Mad. Singer. Go go go go pull out the Google. highlights YouTube wherever you go to. get your highlights. Did he win? He. dominated but he's he's got an opera. voice. This guy could this guy could be. uh he could be I guess we call what in. New York Broadway. So he's he's got a. Broadway career after this. He's a he's. a dog with Broadway pipes. Yeah. Yeah. He won. That's a I tell you what,

there's not many of those humans on the. planet. No. Like D AWGs that can do. Broadway, too. That's That's rare. We're. at rarified air. I mean, that's why you. do the research before the draft. Exactly. Hell of a combo. Just him and. Tom Cruz. Jordan Myada. Yeah. Tom Cruz, Jordan Mya. Yeah, sure. Did he win? Uh. I'm pretty sure he won. Yes. In. 2023. Yeah. If this I hope he won. Uh I. should know this. Uh but he he you know.

I mean he whatever I don't know if I'd. have dressed up like this but you know. what. like 90% he did a Lakers uh national. anthem at the Lakers game and that I you. that that's worth a listen you know I. mean if y'all are sitting there and. you're on your show and you're like oh. gez we're an hour however many and this. thing's getting a little dull pull out a. Kobe Turner national anthem from the. Lakers and you know what maybe you get a. little ratings bump there at the end. Do. you watch the show? I do not watch the Mads. Oh, no. Mad.

this show. Mad. You know what the the. interesting thing? I don't necessarily. tune into it, but you get a lot of clips. from it. Yeah. So, and it's on in the. building at times, so you'll pass by. Yeah. Uh but you're not just, hey, must. see TV for myself yet. Okay. No, but a. lot of people send me clips of you. No. No. But when you say like when you have. the down times that you need to fill, sound like you were a watcher. Yeah. Cuz. there are times coming up. Yeah, you're. we're staring it down, brother. We're. about 5 minutes away from it. So that. would be a perfect time. I mean, if you.

want to add EP, executive producer to. your title, you can certainly do that. Not a bad thing. Maybe we do salute the. United States of America with Kobe. Turner whenever there's a downtime. That's a brilliant idea and a brilliant. concept. I appreciate you bringing it. I. can't wait for the first time we all. stand for Kobe Turner. Guy who has 20. and a half sacks over the last two. years. All right, last question for you. here, Lesne. We appreciate the hell out. of you. Go ahead, Dud. I don't think Les. is watching too much too much TV with. that that mad singer. Yeah, he's locked. in. But uh I believe this is your 14th. year now uh in charge of personnel over.

there with the Rams winning this GM in. Rams history. Is there any uh particular. lesson or book or maybe anything early. on that kind of stood out to you in your. tenure that you took and you kind of. hold on to now? Oh man, the there's. plenty the lessons I've learned on the. job are are usually let's call it. mistakes. So you you got to you got to. figure out why there was a mistake and. you apply it. I'll bore you. This is. probably not a McAfee subject. It's. probably the one book that I've I've. kind of lived by. Uh it's called Good to. Great. Jim Collins. So Jim Collins was a.

a professor at Stanford, but he was a. big business writer back in the day they. wrote this book Good to Great. Studied a. lot of companies that write had a really. good run. Let's call it in terms of. stock and let's say maybe I forget how. many years. and they they had a good. let's call it a decade of good company. and then somewhere along the way they. took it to great and so what he tried to. research is the lessons of how you go to. good to great which we all know those. are now you're now in the margins so. that's that's harder to do uh you know.

it's it's probably easier to go from. average to good than it is to go to good. to great so that's probably the book. that that I've always held on try to re. reread once a year been fortunate to get. to know Jim mentor of mine but uh maybe. not McAfee content don't want to, you. know what I mean? Jim Collins and WWE. doesn't really greatness level five. leader. Yeah, we had we had the second. uh largest book club maybe on earth. behind Oprah. Congratulations to her. She had the great uh book club. We had. Aaron Rogers book club for numerous. years. Greatness is not a function of.

circumstance. Greatness, it turns out, is largely a matter of conscious choice. and discipline. Jim Collins, let's go. That's a bar. That's a bar right there. I'm just I bet you AJ's got a copy of. that on the bookshelf behind him. Pull. it out. Well, not on this actually. My. college coach Jim Streussell actually. had us read that when I was in college. Great book. No, I just have Ein Rand. back here. Uh Atlas Shrugged, Aaron. Rogers recommend. Oh, that's a great one. as well. Okay. You're an avid reader,

huh? A You know, have you ever read Oh, Atlas Shruggs, Pat? You know, that's a. good summer read. I mean, I bet you. summer. Yeah, I got I've seen I've seen. the uh Instagram when you were doing. your Hawaii vacation, maybe. I bet you. had old Anand there laying beside you. Yeah. Yeah. Books. Me and Books have a. tough relationship. Yeah. Sunzu, rest in. peace. I When I found out that Sunzu was. dead, I was devastated. What a book. Art. of war, you know. And I've only seen. excerpts out of that thing, but the. excerpts that I seen, I get it. I get.

what he's saying. Rich Paul's uh Rich. Paul's book, uh, the memoir. a memo. memoir if you Bill's book coming out. Bill's book. Also, let's not get it. twisted. Have you ever read anything. from uh Margaret Hefernon? Oh, I don't think so. Okay. Well, let me. teach you something about books. Yeah. Let's go. Uncharted here. Okay. Uh how. to navigate the future by Margaret. Hefernon. Okay. He's a great book.

because every day we're thinking about. the future. You know, every day we're. thinking about future. There's. uncertain. So, Oh, it certainly is. Uncertainty brings anxiety. Let's go. Oh, well, but also decisions, you know, uncertainty brings decisions. Flip to. that page. And then um and then if you. really dive into it, it's just figuring. out the whole life. The issue with uh me. having this book is I thought it was. this book. You see, the art of winning. by Bill Bich. So, I was sent the wrong. the wrong book with the wrong cover just. yesterday. And I'll tell you what, I. would have never known about Margaret.

Hefernon, but she makes some good points. here. She does. She makes you You better. give her publishing company credit for. pulling this off. You know, everybody's. ordering the Bill Bichc book and you get. Margaret's book. I mean, that you if you. think I gave you a good idea with the. Kobe Turner national anthem, somebody. deserves a raise in that publishing. company. We need to put start putting uh. sleeves around Harry Potter's. There you. go. Cool. You know, it's not a bad idea. People thinking that uh how did this. happen? I don't you know the book world.

well. How would this have happened? Does. this happen? I don't know. I think. that's intentional. Let's go. Let's give. him a call. Gary Gary Vee marketing plan. probably for That's a left hook. All. right. We appreciate the hell out of. you. Great draft. Uh can't wait to see. what you do this season and thank you. for taking time. Always appreciate it. Enjoy have the ladies and gentlemen, the. general manager of the Los Angeles Rams, Lesne. Shout out Lesne. Yeah, that thing in the. fire department was cool. Very cool. I. wonder how that had to be pretty. chaotic. Yeah, they set up a little.

room. Yeah, cuz like these war rooms, we're getting a lot of photos from these. uh draft rooms. We're getting a lot of. uh video from the draft rooms, the. conversations. Obviously, a lot of big. time decisions are being made. Millions. of dollars, billions of dollars at. stake, yada yada yada, you know it. Having all that going on around them, I. wonder how that did go for them. The Los. Angeles Rams, uh Lesne and Shawn McVey, they've been fun out there in Los. Angeles. That's right. They've rented. houses. They've kind of moved their. draft stakes uh around town and to honor. and pay tribute to the fire department. who has obviously been serving at a.

large rate. I don't know how they ever. beat it. There's never I don't know. Once one's done, it feels like another. one comes out out there. So, for them. to, you know, recognize and then go to. their place of work, chitchat, I assume. great conversations were had. I assume. there were some photos taken cuz McVey. is a legend and a superstar. And uh I. hope there was obviously some. inspiration given to the Los Angeles. Rams by the firefighters who are. absolute badasses. Uh shout out to. everything out there. But I I wonder how. they cuz you know your favorite uh war.

room picks this year this uh draft or I. saw the Colts I saw the Colts had one. Did you see everybody was wearing the. coral color? Yeah. Sweet. So that was uh. in honor of the wife of a senior scout. for the Indianapolis Colts. So, there. was multiple I guess she passed away. I. don't know. I very recently I'm so. sorry. Uh to the family. I forget the. coach's name. Matthew Coach or scout Matthew some.

He's with the Colts. Been with the. Colts. He's senior uh scout, college. scout maybe. His wife passed away. recently, so they made these coral. shirts. I don't know if it was for a. cause, but you saw some other rooms were. doing it as well. So, it was nice to see. some of that happening there. We're. getting a lot of access to these. how. Carly was sitting on like the uh like. the Bosu ball. Yeah. Didn't work out. ball. It's good for you. know good core strength. Yeah. Good. core. Whatever happened to those seats? Those office seats that had the kneel. and then the butt do you know like the.

uh you squatty potty. It was like a It. was a Oh, it had like the indent office. chair. Yeah. It was like a little You. like your knees are bent, right? And. you're you like sit with your knees in. front of you and you're Yeah. You're. like riding on You're like sitting like. this with You never seen it? No. Sounds ridiculous. That was changing the. world. It is. I walked into a place, seen that, I was like, "Wow, this is the. future." Sat down, wasn't terrible. Felt. unsafe. Sure. Felt unsafe cuz you do. bounce around a little bit, so there's a. chance you can move out there. But yeah, Squatty Party Change game. Joining us.

now, ladies and gentlemen, is a guy uh. who is the voice of a generation for a. sport that I think is having a. resurgence. He was at Monday Night Raw. last night in the. home of. Chiefs, Kansas City, Missouri. Ladies. and gentlemen, MLB Insider for ESPN, Jeff Passen. Jeff, gentlemen, how are. you? How are you doing, Jet? Thank you. for coming out to uh Monday Night Raw. last night. I hope you and the fam had.

and friends had a good time, dude. It. was awesome. Um I Pat, I got to be. honest. I am. terrified for you and Backlash. You have. to take Gunther chops over. Yeah. Yeah. I It's not gonna be great. Yeah. I mean, I had I had to do what I had to do here, Jed. I had to do what I had to do. Can't. just do that. Me sit there for. everything that I'm about. Can't have it. happen. So, you know, and it did settle. in a little bit last night as I was. traveling home. Oh, great. Oh, great. Here we go. But, you know, I appreciate.

your kind words and uh yeah, going. through laughing about it. I don't know. what that's all about. Okay. I don't. know what that's all about. He ain't. ready. He ain't ready. He's just a He's. just a jobber anyway. Come on now. Boom. That was jet passing. I'd like to have. everybody know that. I do not say that. You come to a lot of You come to a lot. of Monday Night Raws and two WWE events. Uh last night felt like a electrifying. crowd. Legitimately the Kansas City. crowd, I think, was electric last night. Oh yeah, it was awesome. And listen, your your promo, I mean, you were born.

to do this, Pat McAfee. It was. phenomenal. And everything you said, loved it. Loved it. Loved it. Loved it. Top to bottom. There was two words I I. could have left out, you know. Maybe. we're on Netflix, though. You know, those kids, you know, a lot of things. and I didn't even think, you know, and. it wasn't until, you know, shortly after. was I reminded by Cole, you know, he. just wrote it down on the thing right. next. I go, "O blacked out." Hey, it just felt. natural. So, I do apologize for that.

But, nonetheless, uh, yeah, I had to get some things out. You know, a lot of people don't know a. lot of things about me. I just wanted to. remind some people, not only them, but. to myself who I am, what I am. You know, I had to do that. And especially if. you're going to challenge a guy like. Gunther to a fight and you're going to. call out general manager and say, "Hey, listen. Lift the ban. Let's do this. thing." Okay. All right. Let's And did. you did you forget Nick Aldus' name cuz. you just called him Smackdown Adam. Pierce, right? Yeah. Nick is a good man. Former TNA champion. Okay. He is uh he's.

very handsome. Totally forgot his name. No, no, no, no. Do you know my. relationship with Adam Pierce? Yeah, he's middle manager. Bingo. So, you think I'm gonna give credit to. middle manager from other show? That's. That's very fair. Very fair. I I think I. even I I will say this, Pat. I was. sitting uh right I did miss Adam Pierce. last night. I did miss Sam Pierce last. night. I I was sitting right in front of. uh Quinton Lucas, who is the mayor of. Kansas City, who was there last night. And uh when when the when the fbombs.

were dropped um he he was like whoa. like he was all of a sudden it it got. him going a little bit like he was into. it. He didn't know the back. He didn't. know the background either. And so when. he learned the background it was. fantastic. Oh, so the mayor says hold. the phone over there in Kansas City. Okay. In. the cheese. I'm happy they went with me. Happy they went with me. I did not know.

if that was a good way to start the. entire thing. They did. Let's talk. baseball. Baseball. last time we chatted. about it. We're having a great start, great season. Superstars are playing. well. Haven't talked about it in about a. week. What's going on in the baseball. world? Everything's still going great. Everything's always going great in the. baseball world. No, that is not true. You know what I'm talking about. Oh, fair enough. Fair enough. Um, look, we. can talk about Paul Skins. You know what. I'm going to do first? I'm going to fix. my camera because it is about to fall. apart. And that looks like it's much.

better right now. All right. So, uh, in the base. Oh, no. That did not help. Got worse. That did. not help at all. Oh, goodness. No. Come. on, guys. All right. There it is. There we go. We'll see. That's better, right? [Music]. Yeah. I think you look good. I think you. look good. All right. 720. Um, you know, we got all kinds of things. happening in baseball. Paul SK doing.

Paul Sk. Aaron Judge looking like Babe. Ruth. Uh the Los Angeles Dodgers uh. still a machine. The New York Mets look. like the best team in baseball right. now. And it we're a month into the. season. And and typically in baseball, I. I don't take a whole lot out of the. first month. It's a long season. I mean, it goes 6 months. And so that first. month tends to give you a little insight. into what's going on, but you can't take. away too many things from it. Uh right.

now though, I I love what the New York. Mets are doing. Like it they just got. good vibes around that team right now. And they're doing it without Juan Sodto. playing like a $765 million player. They're doing it without Shawn Maniah. and Frankie Monttos. They're doing it. because Pete Alonzo, the polar bear, is. off to a red hot start right now because. their starting pitching top to bottom. has been incredible. Uh, and because.

Francisco Lendor, their captain, is. there hitting walk-off home runs and. just bringing great energy to the team. And the thing is, the Mets want to be. like the Dodgers, Pat. No. Like, that's. the goal at the end of the day, to take. Steve Cohen's money and leverage it into. something great. And they're not there. quite yet, but what they're building. right now, uh, Mets fans have a lot of. reason to feel good about this team. going forward. Are they Are they the uh. Oh, are they the.

uh You said they want to be the Dodgers. A little bit out of focus, but you still. said it. Everybody automatically thought. they're trying to be the Yankees. Are. they the Whoa. Are they New York's Are. they Are they the Kings of New York? No. Yeah. Ty, they're the best team in New. York right now. But like you said, Jet, we're you know, 30 games into the. season, so I'm not the exact tough. schedule. Ty, you Ty, you think that the. Yankees at the end of the season are. going to be better than the Mets? Uh, I.

don't know if I'd necessarily say I. still I mean the Yankees their their. pitching is enough to just drive me. insane. But um but if the if the Yankees. get to the playoffs and and Judge. performs better than he has in years. past, like I mean you you said it, you. know, Judge is he's [ __ ] unbelievable. watching this guy night in night out and. it's very frustrating that you know they. have about two other guys on the you. know in the lineup that are batting over. 200. But I mean no I it we're we're 29.

games into this thing you know so I I'm. not ready to say that the Mets are the. the kings in New York yet. They have. been hot. Aaron Judge is batting over. 400 still. Yes. That's high school like. stuff, right? That's what people in high. school do. Like good good players in. high school or 400 years. I Yeah. I. mean, yeah, maybe like great players in. high school even. Pass it. You You were. holding up your high school. You were. batting 400 at high school. No, this is. not This is Pemrook Hill School where my. son plays and where I believe there are. five players in the lineup, including my.

child right now, batting over 400. 14. and 14 and three. Go Raiders. But nobody. nobody's batting over 500 on that team. though. No, nobody is over 500. But 400 is. absurd at any level of baseball. Right. It is. But but especi like Pat, especially in the big leagues and. especially for a guy like Aaron Judge. who's striking out, you know, a career. low at this point 20% of the time. Uh. but think about it. When you take away.

that 20% of play appearances that you're. striking out in, right? That means you. have to essentially bat 500 on all of. the other uh balls that you hit uh in. order to have a 400 average. So I don't. think Aaron Judge is a threat to hit 400. necessarily, but if you go back and look. at the last calendar year for Aaron. Judge, he had a bad April last year. So. let's go like beginning of May to the. end of April this year. Aaron Judge is.

batting over 360. He has hit 60 home. runs. He has driven in 156 runs and he. has put up 13 and a half wins above. replacement. Now, war is a statistic. that tries to encapsulate everything a. player does, his offense, his defense, his base running, and it's useful. because you can compare over generations. how players are doing. And so last. night, I went and looked what is the. best war season in baseball history. Of.

course, it belongs to Babe Ruth. foot up. 14 wins above replacement one year. Second best year was 13.7 wins above. replacement. After that, there has not. been a player in history who over a. calendar year has had 13 12 wins above. replacement like Aaron Judge. So, what. we're looking at right now, you know, we. give Sho Otani all the love, but the. truth is Aaron Judge is so good as a. hitter, so much better than everyone. else as a hitter that I think he's a. little underappreciated and taken for. granted because he is so damn good at.

what he does. Well, we appreciate the. fact that Aaron Judge says, uh, yeah, I'll just take a yard and I'll have the. highest batting percentage. You know, I'll hit it the furthest and the most. often and the most consistent cuz. there's people that just bat for. average, right? And they're not hitting. dingers. Yeah. And he's hitting for. dingers and his average is better than. everybody. Yeah. And his on base. percentage is over. So he's getting on. base over half the time which you know. like Jet would I mean it hasn't really. been like that this year because the. guys batting around him haven't been.

great. But like when Barry Bonds was in. his prime, like there would be times. where he would maybe get like one good. pitch to hit like an entire series and. he'd hit a homer when he took that. That's exactly right. Yeah. And that's. kind of what Jud like Judge he he had. the hot start. He hit a bunch of homers. and he's been he hasn't been hitting. homers at the same clip over like the. past like two weeks, but he like he just. he's not getting very many good pitches. to hit. And when he does, like he's. either hitting homers or he's getting. base hits and it's just like it's.

remarkable to watch night in night out. Speaking of homers, Debb has a question. for you, Jet. Yeah. Uh casuals like. myself were kind of enamored early on. this season with the torpedo bats. Are. they still a thing? Are are people still. knocking them out of yard? That's first. question. And then secondly, are we sure. about those numbers as far as war? You. sure Jackie Jackie Robinson didn't have. a Jackie Robinson Josh Gibson? He had. Jackie Jackie Robinson was awesome. and. Jackie Robinson never put up a season. like Babe Ruth or Barry Gondman. Um in. in in terms of the tour in terms of the.

tour Jackie Robinson was the most. important player in baseball history. So. not taking away anything from Ted. Williams. Maybe United States maybe. United States Todd Van maybe. Anyways, David Wells that. one that was a big fault. Uh in terms of. torpedo bats, that's a great question. I. I actually dug in a little bit on that. too, looking at the Yankees opening. weekend when uh Cody Bellinger and. Anthony Bulpy and Austin Wells, you.

know, going to Jazz Chisum going off and. hitting home runs. Uh since then, they. they've been terrible. Uh now, that. doesn't mean that torpedo bats don't. work. You know, Cal Raleigh, for. example, the Seattle Mariners catcher, uses a torpedo bat. He's a switch. hitter, but he uses the torpedo on the. left side. Been cranking home runs all. over the place. Um, you know, Steven. Quan with the Cleveland Guardians. batting 350 right now uses a torpedo. bat. What it is is it's more a matter of.

comfort for guys. Like, how are they. going to find the tools that allow them. to be the best baseball players? We got. to get you a torpedo pad. I I agree cuz. I I think I'm a torpedo bat hitter. because we hit absolute nukes with I. broke my I felt like I broke my thumb on. that jam that old buddy gave me. They. just move that thing down to here, you. know, which is a big skinny top there. Yep. What's that? Alarm all the way down. there. Exactly. Yeah. Just this area. This whole area right here. Just Just. make that the torpedo. And then just.

thin that side out there. So then I'm. literally just throwing They're throwing. my hands at him. You know what I mean? And then that's torpedo right there. It's gone. That's what they do. Pat. tries to talk baseball. That's what they. do, right? Yeah. I mean, you were saying. a lot of things there where I'm like, as. a non- baseball person, I I do want to. understand what's going on in your. conversation, but I don't fully. comprehend it. I thought the torpedo. bats fixed baseball. Why the [ __ ] can't. they hit with the torpedo bats anymore? Why are we not I thought that was the.

game changer and then all the people. that know baseball were like, they've. been around for a long time. It's just a. fad. Why is it is baseball and is it. like always changing? Like are there. always like little intricacies always. changing? Is there like because we've. learned about all the sport and. everything, you know, the stickiness, the hat stuff, the uh traditions, the. this. We've learned about all that. Is. there just always like little things. changing like the ball? I remember we've. changed the ball now like five times. Juice balls. Yeah, we spider tech. We. can't have spider tech, but we're. allowed to lick and we're allowed to. have rosin. But if you lick the rosin at.

the same time, can't do that. And also, you're going to get full body pad. Oh, now we're going to have a smaller pitch. clock. You can only step out one time. unless it's two times. Like there's. always like little thing. I felt like. the torpedo bat was the new one of. those. Okay, we just moved the wood to. where the ball is going to be. Is there. any more of those down the pipe? And is. there a chance that the torpedo bat does. come back and make a run? Because like. Debbut, I enjoyed thinking that they. were walking out there with whiffle ball. bats and they were just hitting bombs.

every night. It reminded me of the. summer. Yeah. Yeah. The summer of bombs. The summer of. Maguire. Yep. Mhm. in Sosa. That's. right. Summer steroids. Things Pat, things are always changing in baseball. And it's one of the things that I love. about it. It's that, you know, in a in a. game where everyone has the same type of. information. Uh what they're doing is. looking for these tiny little minuscule. advantages because that tiny little.

minuscule advantage could lead to an. extra win or two, which could lead to a. playoff spot, which could lead to a. World Series. and and the curiosity of. people inside of baseball is to me the. best part of it. Um they're always. looking for something and it wasn't just. torpedo bats. You know, there are guys. out there with knobs on their bats that. are shaped like hockey pucks and they. feel like they swing better that way. They're always testing and iterating and. trying to figure things out. So yeah,

torpedo bats aren't going anywhere. They're just not going to be the thing. that changes the game permanently. I. mean, we're in a state right now where. pitching is so far ahead of hitting. because of the technology, because. pitchers in the off season can go into a. lab where they have these units called. Trackman and Rapoto that uh they track. pitches and essentially tell you down to. the RPM how they're spinning, the angle. at which they're spinning, how fast.

they're going to the tenth of a mile per. hour. and pitchers going into these labs. and designing new pitches to try and get. swings and misses and to try and become. better pitchers. And hitters just. haven't had that thing uh to to even. things out. So that's why the batting. average in baseball right now is below. 240. That's why offense is kind of. stagnant at this point. And so. baseball's always looking for something. to get offense better because fans want. to see runs scored. Okay. So, they.

should let him bang on garbage cans. then. And uh on that note, I guess with. everything you're saying, what Aaron. Judge is doing right now needs to be. remarkable lauded and applauded even. more so. And let's talk about the. pitching and the exciting pitching that. we got to see firsthand. AP Tone has a. question for you, Jet. Yeah, Jack. Let's. talk about the pitcher, Mr. Vogue, Mr. GQ, Mr. Paul Skins. Um and we all know. Show Otani, who we just got. So nasty. So nasty. Um, he is the face of. baseball. Aaron Judge is the face of.

baseball. But as far as Paul Ske going. goes with the GQ, with the Vogue, I I. just saw a trailer for about his 4-hour. warm-up, which I believe is coming out. in a documentary. I think you might even. be involved in it. Um, is he the next. face of baseball? And is the just is. there even a ceiling for Paul Skins at. this point? And when is he leaving. Pittsburgh? Night out. I I you know what? I hope the. answer is not soon. I agree. I I just I I want to see a team like the.

Pittsburgh Pirates. I want to see a fan. base like the Pittsburgh Pirates fan. base be rewarded and get to see the. brilliance that Paul Ske brings on an. every start basis. And the the like. skins right now he's just getting. better. Like that's the terrifying thing. for hitters that this is a guy who. throws six different pitches, can throw. them in any count in any situation. You. see the high fast ball there. You saw. the slider to Otani. I mean, right down.

the middle there. And Freddy Freeman. can't catch up to it. And Paul Skins. right now is finding out the kind of. pitcher that he can be. And it was. interesting after that start against the. Dodgers. You know, he goes 100 I think. 107 108 109 pitches. After that game, he. talked about I feel like I can go 140, 150. And I wrote a story about schemes a. couple weeks back where uh you know I. sat down with him during spring. training, talked with him for like. almost an hour and a half. It was great. conversation. He's a really thoughtful, interesting, intelligent guy. And and he.

was telling me about the conversations. that he has with players who he respects. and how important it is to try and learn. from them. And one of those was Randy. Johnson. And Randy Johnson's a guy who. would go and throw 140 or 150 pitches in. a game. Nowadays, if a guy gets to 120, like there's panic. And I personally. don't think that's right. I think there. are too many restrictions placed on. pitchers who are held to a standard of.

average when they are exceptional. Paul. Skins's body might actually be built to. handle 120 plus pitches regularly, but. because of the fear of injury, I don't. think we're ever going to get to find. out whether that is a reality for him. And that's the problem right now with. pitchers, front offices are scared of. the elbow. Front officers are scared of. the shoulder. They're scared that these. incredible assets that they have that.

bring so much value to their team are. just going to get run over like pitchers. of generations past. But we have so much. more knowledge right now that I think if. the training is proper, if the pitcher. understands what his body is capable of. doing, maybe we need to listen to him. rather than hold him to some. strictctures that are put in place. because we're obsessed with round. numbers. Like if a guy gets to a 100. pitches, it's not necessarily a danger. zone if the guy is conditioned to throw.

100 plus pitches. I love everything. you're saying right now because we are a. analytics are good show, but they're not. necessarily the final boss or final call. on everything show, which I think is the. right place to be. And I know you wrote. a book uh I believe you wrote a book. about kids and how much they're. throwing. And whenever you talk about. restrictions, professionals, yes, obviously got to have the conversation, but we need to put restrictions on the. younger kids because the kids as they're. growing up through baseball, they're the. ones that are putting so much damage on.

their elbows and on their arms through. wasted reps almost whenever they're. growing up. We know because he's been on. the program and told us, and I think. you've obviously reported this numerous. times, Paul Schmes didn't start pitching. until what, high school or something. like that. He was a he was a catcher. He. didn't start pitching until late. So his. arm is literally like kind of young in. the entire pitcher baseball world. no. matter where he's at. So, it's like you. look at how big he is. You look at like. the history of his arm. Obviously, you. would think this guy could go. If he. wanted to go, you should let him go.

They're saving him for years. Like, they. want him to be able to throw for years. What would a successful career look like. for Paul Skins if the saving him for the. future worked like them saving him for. the future? How many years is that of. Paul Ske as Paul Skins in the MLB? Pat, the problem is that there's a. fallacy that the less a guy throws, the. healthier he's going to stay. That has. not proven true over time. And so, it's.

why we need to look at the individual. and what he can bring as opposed to the. history of, you know, all of the arms. that are in graveyards everywhere. I. mean, we go back and look at guys who. were like Paul Ske, Carrie Wood and Mark. Prior, for example, with the Chicago. Cubs. They were supposed to be the ones. who led the Cubs to glory. They got. overused. They got hurt. Didn't work out. for them. Their careers were cut short. accordingly. But this is, you know, I. feel like you got to give some autonomy. to the players. Um, and if Paul Sches.

wants to go more, then let him go. Like, this is his career. And, uh, I I get why. teams are hesitant. It's just not backed. up by any data or any science. And. that's the frustrating part about this. Um Paul Skins is like the scary part. with him is that he throws really hard. and and there's an extreme correlation. between hard throwers and elbow. injuries. It almost feels like an. inevitability with some guys. But there.

are outliers and and for me what is a a. a successful Paul Ski career look like? It's not so much the number of years he. throws. It's not the number of. strikeouts he has. It's not any of those. counting sats. It's does he stay healthy. or does he not? Because if he stays. healthy, Pat, he is going to be in the. Hall of Fame. He's going to be a first. ballot hall of famer. That's how good he. is. But it's just a matter of trying to. keep him healthy as best you can. And. the reality is I wrote a book called The.

Arm. I spent four years studying this, researching it, trying to crack it. And. unfortunately, at the end, it was a. dissatisfying conclusion. I didn't know. a whole lot more than I did when I. started reporting the book. Uh there's. just there's nothing out there at this. point that anyone knows that for certain. is going to keep pitchers healthy. You're saying. situations are situational. uh and that. I am human bodies are maybe constructed. differently and elbows every single one.

of them are a little bit different in. ligaments and torque and tear and it's. more so a if it's going to happen it's. going to happen type thing as opposed to. a hey let's only let him pitch 60 times. tonight because he might have to pitch. again in the future and we talked to um. Randy Johnson I believe and CC I believe. and both of them are like I didn't want. to give up the ball because like just. competitor too like who who am I given. this ball to, you know, Paul has that. Like Paul definitely has that. So I I.

I'm excited for him to hopefully get a. chance to experience that. And you said. you hope he's at the Pittsburgh Pirates. long term, man. It's like we all know, dude. The the whole arena knew at Big. Night Out. The whole arena knew. Everybody in there knew. And unless that. happens, we got no shot, brother. We got. no And then Michael Cole comes out and. goes, "You need to get a real owner like. Steve Cohen up in New York." and. everybody boozing, but it's like, yeah, that would be what it would have to take. to keep Paul skins in Pittsburgh. What? Three years from now, when when's he due.

to make a decision? Two years. Oh, he's. got he the Pirates still have him under. control for a while because he didn't. start uh with them in the big leagues. last year. Now, he won rookie of the. year, which gave him a full year of. service, right? So, after this season, he's going to have two full years of. service. You get free agency after 6. years. So after this year, they've got. another four years left. But generally. speaking, if you don't feel like you can. sign a guy longterm, you're probably.

going to trade him after that fourth. season just to try and maximize the. value. You know, it's difference between. a one-year rental and a guy that you've. gotten for a couple of years. I I hate I. hate talking about this stuff. We should. not be having this conversation. Baseball should not be the sport where a. star gets built up in a small market and. it feels like an inevitability that he's. going to go somewhere else. And it's not. always the case. I live in Kansas City. Bobby Whit Jr. signed an 11-year $288. million contract to stay in Kansas City.

Why? Because John Sherman, the owner, stepped up and said, "We are going to. pay you what you're worth." And frankly, the fact that the Pirates have not done. that with Paul Schemes yet, and there's. no sign that they have any intention to. do that, uh, it's a shame. It really is. Nothing difference, baby. Well, well, Nutting has learned of our program, I. have been told. Mhm. Oh, has he? I. guess. I don't know. There was. conversations about a big fan. Yeah. I. don't think he likes it. Yeah, I know. He loves it. Well, normally he just.

reads newspapers. We talk about the. parts. I'm pretty talk about the parts. That's the thing about skins, too, right? It's like CC and Randy. Like at. least when he passes the ball on, they're not like blowing his starts or. anything. Bingo. Yeah, that bullpen. He. knows what's coming. Scoreless nine all. against the Dodgers. So, oh, you tell. me. Maybe the Pirates uh bullpen is hot. right now. Was that was the only game. they won though, right? Yeah, I. think the Dodgers are good team. They. are. I saw a payroll tweet. The Miami uh.

Marlins. Yep. 40 million. Is that their. number? We [ __ ] stink. Sounds about right. 69 million uh 477. million for the Dodgers. 69 million for. the Marlins. What are we doing? Rockies. might be 40 million. That's wild. No, the Rock I'll tell you what, the Rockies. are playing like a $40 million team, but. they actually are spending I think 128. this year. Like they they the Rockies. spend money. They just don't spend it. well. How does that even So the Rockies.

are on pace to be very very very. historically terrible, right? Worst. ever. I didn't know it was that bad. Yeah. Last year we saw the most feudal team in. major league history, the Chicago White. Socks, lose a record 121 games. Their. reign as the worst team in history might. last one year. All right, Paul, go get. it. Go get it, Rockers. A beautiful. ballpark. The farmer's hand. You might. as well just be the worst instead of.

second doors. You know, everybody's just. going to Four and 24. Yeah, it's. ridiculous. That has to be a miserable. place out there in the Rockies. What is. that 50 cent tickets on Sege Geek? Probably. Probably. Yeah. Larry Walker. can't be. No. You know what though? I I. give I give credit to Rocky's fans. They. still show up, man. They're still. putting 30 plus thousand people into. that ballpark. How much? How many? Yeah. 30,000 plus a night. There's no way. That ballpark is beautiful. Unbelievable. Gorgeous park. 30,000.

people are going to Rocky's games. They're 4 and 24. Yeah, I mean dollar. tickets to drink ice cold beers at Mile. High 31. Mountains are blue, brother. Yeah. Chorus light stadium, right? Isn't. it shot today sponsor Sege Geek, the. greatest ticket buying platform on. planet Earth and the moon. Right now, you use. PAT30, that is PAT30, to get $30 off any. type of ticket, whether it's for the NBA. playoffs, the NHL playoffs, concerts, comedy, maybe a Rocky's game to.

celebrate the beautiful city of Denver, and and watch a team definitely lose. 4. and 24. Historically terrible start. You. can get a ticket to get in. 14 bucks. It's also Bogo Hot Dog Night tonight. That's a big one. Buy one and get one. And they might even add in an extra one. just because you came to watch the 4 and. 24 Rockies. Now, I will say that $14. ticket you cannot utilize or the 16 or. the 19 or the $17 ones. You cannot.

utilize the code PAT the number three, the number zero pat 30 for $30 off any. of the tickets. Uh restrictions do. apply. Like for instance, if the ticket. costs less than 30 bucks, it could be. new or repeat purchaser with our friends. at SeatGeek. Over 30 million downloads. now. Wow. They're at 28 million. Well, that's good growth. Good growth out of. Seat Geek. Can you get uh Savannah. Banana tickets on there? 81,000 down. there at Clemson and watch the Bananas.

do their thing. Watch them before the. Rockies. I saw it. I think I would too. And the Pirates unless. Unless I saw it. Did you see his second. uh. atbat hit it the length of a football. field outfielder has it has it punches. it up in the sky with the glove takes. off the hat. Catches the ball in the. hat. Flips it up. Puts it in his hand. Throws it back. They're the real deal. Entertaining bas. That's in front of. 81,000 plus. That's the first inning.

Wow. Think about the moxy. Think about. the moxy on that. Show me. Jed. impressive. Absolute showman. Have you. been to Savannah Bananas? And are any of. them gonna get signed to the MLB before. playoffs? They better. Stilts Sky. What? Still Sky? No. Stilts Sky. Uh they're they are I believe for the. most part like they're they were good. college players, but if if they were. great, they would probably be with an. organization. Okay. So, what is the. baseball thoughts of the Savannah Banana.

business? Cuz I'll say this, great. business. 81,000 people watching them. play baseball. Pat, if anybody inside of. the baseball industry is hating on the. Savannah Bananas, they're wrong. They're. absolutely wrong. I don't Just because. it's not Major League Baseball, just. because it's not, you know, playing to. win necessarily doesn't mean it's not. great. They're not packing stadiums if. it's not fun and if people don't love. it. And frankly, anything that brings.

people to baseball, even if it's a. different brand of baseball or different. style of baseball, I'm all for it. Love. what the Bananas are doing and love the. passion that they have from their fans. I mean, it's it's impressive what they. do and the way that they are able to. pack these big league ballparks and in. some cases football stadiums. Well, this. case, Clemson, 81,000. So many people. That's their biggest house that they've. had thus far. Is this it? No, that's the. top of the night. Any these ss get. caught up? This this up behind the. plate.

That's a huge out right there in the top. of the ninth. What a play. What a play. up there. Row 25. Yeah, legit. You can't. be hitting that foul ball into a place. where it looks like there's some. athletes out there. Snag, how you doing? That's an out. See you. They're. definitely playing to win. Yeah. You. think party animals are? Yeah. Party. animals don't go around. No, the bananas. are playing to win. This is the top of. the ninth. Do they switch teams? They're. always on the same team. They're always. on the same team. You think Hosley's.

going to put on a party animals joke? What was that right there? That was uh. That was curveball. Yeah. Little little. slide piece. What was that? Another. slider. Oh, okay. So, this is his pitch. The slider is his pitch. He's junk. baller. He's feeling it. He was college. pitcher that probably did well, but. wasn't MLB speed. Three straight. sliders. Wow. I mean, nasty. What a dog. We have the hat catch too from the. outfielder. I mean, this is the second. at bat. You think about maybe a little. bit of a little nerves. Sure. A little.

bit of Oh, no. I don't want to mess up. This guy's backpedaling in the middle of. his son in front of 81,000. Big shot. Big shot. Length of the. football field. Couldn't hit in a worse. spot. Oh, wow. Yeah. Yeah. Dropped the. sunglasses. Who cares? Get the ball out. of here. Uh, Cape. Guy Superman. Cape Guy hit a bomb. earlier in the game, too. Cape Guy's. Moxy is ridiculous. Why didn't he aim. that to left field? What a play. That. was a second pitch. Second pitch of the.

night, dude. Dog. Hit it to left field. I do love the exceptionally short porch. in left field. Yeah. Oh, the short porch. over right is a good spot there, huh? Yeah. Field big time. Yeah. Phil oppo. Who's winning the uh World Series? Red. Sox. Not the Red Sox. But the American League. is wide open right now. Of course. And. and Connor, can I can I say something? They're doing it. Conor, you look you look good today, man. I'm digging the jersey. Sounds so. bad, but thank you. You might sound bad,

but you like it's a good look for you. right now. And and look, the Socks the. Socks are playing some ball this year. Christian Campbell is the real deal. Alex Bregman has been absolutely. fantastic. They need some pitching, but. I agree with those odds. To me, right. now, it's it's still the Dodgers. And. look, they are banged up. Uh Blake. Snell, $182 million signing on the. injured list right now. Tyler Glaz now. signed $136.5 million extension when he. got traded there on the injured list.

now. Otani still not pitching. You know, they've got Yamamoto in their rotation, Roi Sasaki and Dustin May. Uh but this. is what the Dodgers do, Pat. They value. depth so much to the point where they. have Tony Gon who hasn't pitched since. 2023 because of uh an injury finally. coming back this week. They have Ben. Kasparius, a guy who was in the bullpen. uh up to 99 when coming in after Tyler. Glasnau came out of the game and he.

could be in the rotation. They could go. with Landon Knack, they could go with. Justin Reellski. like they've just got. so much depth that even when they have a. dozen pitchers on the injured list, they. still have guys who are better than most. teams pitchers. And and it's that depth, I think, that at the end of the day is. going to carry the Dodgers. No Pirates. on her. I thought that's on bottom. right. We got It's twice. Pirates beat. the Pirates just dominate the Dodgers.

though. So beat the Dodgers run through. the Cubs, no problem. Cubs have actually. had quite the start. Yeah, wait till. they see the Paul SK train in the Hundo. boys. You know, they're hanging and. Cotch Cut is getting after it. Big. pitchers duel tonight actually. Mikey. Managa against Andrew Heene. And as the. teams they play for are Buckos and the. Cubs. Heene's actually got a 1.9 RA. We're playing the Cubs tonight. We got. team's [ __ ] been dealing, dude. Hey, SK has the Cubs number. That's one of. the only teams he got to play twice last.

year, I think, if I recall from talking. to Paul Ske. He got to play the he he. got to play the Cubs twice because it. was one of the first series he had. whenever he got in, then he had you guys. late and he talked about how he. remembered how batters were the first. the second time that he got a chance to. go against him. That's why whenever he's. taking on Shi, I don't know if that's. the first time he's taken on Shi, but. like Paul Ske is like calculating in. there on Show. And I'm assuming he's. doing the same thing to Paul. We need. them in the offseason just to do a. one-on-one. Show and and skins. Yeah,

just give them a stadium against you. They've had a pretty good Shoe took him. deep last year. Um and then he he. obviously he fared much better this year. in his first start against Would they. ever both be full go in the offseason? That's I know their offseason's so. short, but would they ever have both. have a day where it's like I'm doing a. full hitting workout today and Paul Ske. would be doing a full pitching workout. that day. 100%. Yes. No problem. Paul Sches takes. off three weeks in the off season and.

just does nothing. Doesn't touch a. weight, nothing like that. Three weeks. down and then he's back after it. And. so, yeah, got to make that happen, man. In Japan, 100 pitches. It'll be I don't. know what what is a normal workout. How. many How many pitches does he normally. do? Uh, it depends if he's throwing a. bullpen. Like a typical bullpen session. is like 30 35 pitches. Boom. 30 bat. Give my metal bat too. Show. Hey, get. the metal bat and skins will be behind.

the behind the l the the net and skins. will pitch behind the net. Age, I like. where we're at in the brainstorm. I. don't want to bring an umbrella, but. let's make sure we're letting the boys. be the boys here. Let's get a gorilla. out there, too. Okay, Jet, how do you. feel? Beat him. How do you feel, Jet, about the gorilla? You know, we could add the gorilla. Sure. Why not? Oh, you don't know? Jet. don't know. No, I don't know. What's the. gorilla? Well, it's it's it's it's got a. problem. It's 100 dudes. Uh from my. perspective. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. The 100.

guys versus the one gorilla. Yeah. Oh. The the the gorilla loses against the. go. You get it. You get it. I saw on. three. I saw on three humans. One, two, three. Humans. Humans. To be. clear, I didn't know what to say. All right. We appreciate you, man. Ladies and gentlemen, senior baseball. insider for ESPN and pundit Jet Pass and. baby. I like when we talk baseball with Jet.

Mhm. Get like my update. Know what's. going on. Check in quarterly. If I just. so happen to be scrolling or see. something on late night. Oh, the Yankees. are playing sweet. Aaron Judge is. batting better than any human in history. of baseball at any level. He's got. T-ball like average right now. batting. in the big leagues when everybody else. stinks because the pitchers are so good. Maybe I should check out a Yankees game. Oh, we're at a different part of the. order though. Aaron Judge isn't hitting. for two more [ __ ] hours. That is what. it feels like. Yeah, sometimes that is.

what it feels like. Yeah. Doesn't if you. accidentally get there right after right. after he went like, "All right, I guess. I got another hour and a half until the. big game." Kind of a break in baseball. right now, though. You have your your. opening few weeks where we're all super. excited. Then the NBA and NHL have their. playoffs and then you know then baseball. season kickback. Yeah, tonight big night. for both leagues actually. Con man, go. ahead. Yeah, huge for NBA. It's kind of. the 3-1 night. Uh Bucks can or sorry the. Pacers can close out the Bucks. That's. at 6. The Knicks can close out the.

Pistons. Celtics can close out the Magic. and then Clippers Nuggets 22. Kind of. the game of the night. And of course it. starts at 10:00. So probably see most of. that game tomorrow. But Bucks, Pacers, Magic Celtics on NBA TV, unfortunately. Well, yeah, they have four or five, you. know, and I had a chance to be on late. night the other night and it was fun to. watch. Pacers are electrifying whenever. they get on to national television. Hopefully after this series, uh, you. should check them out. Yeah, they have. to win, too, because the Cavs already. won. They're already through. Kind of. get some rest and make sure the Cavs.

don't rest too much. Uh, same for the. Pistons, Knicks, and Celtics Magic cuz. winner of those two series play each. other. Jaylen Brunson healthy. Uh, who. knows? Well, is he playing? Yeah. Oh, he's definitely playing. It's just he'll. get banged up and then he'll get a new. ankle in the locker room and then he'll. be right. Jaylen's a dog. Jaylen Brunson. is a dog. Big body. That Warriors game. was legit. Sorry, that Warriors game. last night. I I didn't plan on it. I. stayed up to the whole thing, watched it. all because I was hoping I'd see like a. a bench clearing brawl eventually. This.

game was very chippy all night. It was. awesome. I love that Houston and Golden. State are getting going. And I think. Jimmy Butler and Draymond Green on the. same team. We assume it'll get chippy in. Dylan Brooks. Dylan Brooks, I mean, they. play Steph has to work so hard. Steph. has every guy in the arena guarding him. every single play. Like, it's unreal how. much this guy has to get like to work. just to get open. His cardio is a part. that doesn't get talked about a lot. And. uh I love the atmosphere. I like the NBA. playoff games whenever they're good.

Yeah, I don't love when the Miami Heat. are playing play. Well, don't have to. worry about that anymore. They got the. way for the Panthers. Yeah, good. Good. on them. What's going on, Donner? Pat. Riley don't know. Bull. He's out of. town, apparently. Rouse, they got to. figure it out. Got a lot to figure out. You guys are moving on from Riley. Need. a big uh No, I think he's earned the. right to step away when he's ready to. step away. And he's not he's building a. new team because I think Bam said a lot. of new faces going. He knows how the guy. with the white hair operates. So, he. expects a ton of changes this offseason.

There are some big fish potentially out. there. Greek Freak, Greek Freak, KD. Uh, so hopefully Garza always. Is he. available? They're not letting him. Uh, I mean, no, but if you guys put together. a decent package for him, I'm sure you. might be able to buy 25 the other night. against Lakers. We can't give up enough. to get him. I'll tell you, that Lakers. team got to be exhausted. Yeah. How many. games in a season? 82. Okay. So, we got. those done. Everybody's tired, I assume.

Beat up joints. We got a lot of ice. packs rack wrapped around knees and. ankles and everything like that. Traveling to overnights, back to backs, different cities. Mhm. You know, little. guy had to move mid-season had to find a. place. Los Angeles, brand new spot. Moving stinks. And then you get into the. playoffs, it's like, hey, everything's. Brown's 40 40 plus years old. You know. who else played the entire second half? Who's that? And Edwards. He didn't look. tired. He should. He did it. He looked. awesome. He's young. He is fun to watch. Yeah, he is very fun to watch. I hope.

they become like a very good team, too. Yeah, just because Ant is uh he's old. he's old school. I'll tell you he is an. old school player and does not care. Like that is who he is. There's clips of. him talking to uh President Obama, you. know, telling him he needs to he needs. to recognize basically what's going on. here in front of him. I mean, it is an. awesome amount of confidence, cockiness, arrogance, and then showing up. And uh. that's good for the NBA. Oh, yeah. That.

is good for the NBA. All characters. welcome, especially if you're going to. be great at what you do. I'm worried. about the Lakers. I'm worried about the. Lakers. I'm worried about them. I think. this one's going to be a tough one. Yeah, they better start hot. And I think. they could. I think they could. Could. You're a hater though, Foxy. He's done. notoriously. Yeah. If any of these teams. that are down 3-1 could come back, it's. going to be the Los Angeles Lakers. We. all know LeBron's going to be the one. that's going to do it. What's going on. with the Pistons Knicks? You guys still. mad? Well, yeah. I mean, we're over it.

at this point. We're in New York. tonight. So, let's assume that these. refs are going to close it out. Gentlemen, sweet. But, I mean, the. Pistons, they're the youngest team in. the league. Kade Cunningham, young. superstar. They'll be okay next year, and then they'll get better and better. Why is he so down? And why do you say. the refs are going to win the game. tonight? I'm okay because the Pistons. last year won 14 games. The first team. in NBA history to triple their wins in a. season. So this season was a bit of a. surprise to everyone. So they made it to. the dance. They've learned some lessons.

and we're just going to build on this. one. This is the Lions of a few years. ago. Bingo. Exactly. So now this is the. expectation of the Pistons. Yes. Exactly. You guys had a coach. You paid. the coach with the most money in. history. Moved on from the coach. Now. you're in the playoffs. Yeah, we're in. the playoffs and we actually hired the. Cavs old coach and so he's done a. fantastic job and then it's weird. because the Cavs hire a new coach and. they've done a fantastic job. NBA is. just weird. So you guys just fight. people, right? Yeah, we're literally. we're back to the Bad Boys Pistons, the. ' 04 Pistons, and now we got this new.

generation of fighters. And this has. been a big problem in the series. Beef. Stew, our fiercest guy, has been out the. whole time with injuries. So we need him. back. Need Beef Stew. Yeah, exactly. Need Beef Stew. How about How about uh. Knicks fans, though? Are there any. Knicks fans back there? How do you feel. about the toughness your team has shown. fighting the mighty mighty Detroit. Pistons? Uh, no. It was a great test to. sort of survive the physicality. The. Knicks are cert like sort of at a. different place in their build. Obviously, they were third this year. 51. wins. That's great. But didn't really. have a signature win. So, going into the.

playoffs, it was like hard to really. believe that we were like a true. bonafide contender that can take down. the Celtics or the Cavaliers in seven. games. Um, but no, I mean, Brunson is an. elite playoff riser. He is the clutchest. player in the NBA and um you know behind. him anything's possible. If you're down. 12 in the fourth and he just rattles off. eight straight, you're back in every. game. Yeah. But what about the refs on. your guys' side? Foxy's been telling me. the refs are on your guys' side. You. still have that clip, Foxy? Yeah, actually I think I do. Yeah. Pod that. up. So pod that up. Pod that up. Yeah. On on the rebound, you'll actually see.

Tobias Harris foul Josh Hard and then. step out of bounds before passing the. ball to Tim Hardway. So, if we want to. see if we want to go if we want to go. back through it. That's the footage. Bruce foul. Out of bounds. He's out of. bounds. Passes the ball to Hardway. Out. of bounds. This goes back to the Mickey. Mouse New Yorker. That's what you're. saying. Not Hold on. Hold on. Foxy. Go. back. Bruce, Bruce, you're saying it. should have been blown. Josh Hart's. fouled.

Go Fox right there. And then Harris is. out of bounds. There's got to be a. better That was a double-handed shove. underneath. I don't know if they'd call. it. And then you were saying he's. touching ball while sitting out of. bounds. Yeah. No, I'm just talking. about, you know, missed calls. So, you. could go back and and say there were. probably this is what we're dealing with. right now, boys. This is exactly what. we've been dealing with. Bruce said that. if the refs were were normal, if they. were just straight up, and keep in mind, the Pistons got screwed, but if the refs. were normal, that the Knicks would have. won every game by 30 points. Yep. I love. the fact that uh coaches are saying it's.

[ __ ] I think JJ came out and said. it. I think other teams, coaches have. come out and said it. The NBA is. currently in the middle of a uh people. kind of being done not saying that these. refs are making some decisions. LeBron. came out. Mhm. Thought the hand was the. ball. I don't know. Mhm. You tell me. I. thought the hand was the ball. They. said, "Well, the thumb is technically a. part of the wrist up at the top of it.". Yeah. When does wrist become hand and. hand become wrist? That's new to me. I've been using that hand part of the.

ball for 30 plus years at LA Fitness. Hands part of the ball. Part of the. ball, bro. I hate to break you. Well, you hit me right here on my wrist. Touch. the ball. Your hands touch your wrist. So, if I got you in the forearm, I'd. understand what you're saying. But wrist. kind of is the transition process into. hand there. Sorry, that was a big call. Huge. This was a huge Lakers getting. ball going out. Instead, Lakers getting. ball down three after Ant makes two. shots. They would have been down one. All we need is a layup. And let's assume. that guy at the bottom 77 would have.

made something. He is so good at. basketball. Defensive side, people don't. uh give him a lot of uh positive vibes. They're playing a whole half. Exactly. They're playing a whole half. What do. you want me to smack the wood? Make. excuses for him. Sure. Yeah. 77. Yeah. Or anybody that don't play on the other. side of the court. There was a couple. times he was kind of he said, "I'm not. going to stop this guy anyways." living. all that if I was to try. He's really. good. Good move, dude. Just kind of gone.

around. You live with that. If he hits a. three at the other end of the court, if. he's going to score 40, it's all good. Exactly. And if you're expecting him to. play the entire half, every once in a. while, there's going to be a All right. Yep. Okay, let's go. Help. Help. Help. It's also just a group of people itching. to say that Nico Collins might have been. right. It's not his name. I got this. wrong. It's his name to me. What is it? Nico Harris. Yeah, whatever. He was wrong. Yeah. We'll see. We'll.

see. We won't. You could have got nine. first round picks for Luca. Muel Bridges. went for what, Bruce? Five. Five first. Rudy go. Yeah, you could have got nine. first round picks for Luca. We don't. know. The only people I knew. You could. have got more than you got. The only. people that knew about it were Sean's. They would have told other people that. it was potentially available. Maybe. shopped it. Don't do this. No, not don't. do this, but also somebody would have. came around. What are they giving you? Anthony Davis, huh? [ __ ] We'll trade. our whole team for them. You got a. percentage of the Yeah, you guys own two.

teams now. Congratulations. Down 3-1. Luca and LeBron come back in. the first round. It's 1100. Come on. Wait a minute. AJ, what do you think? I. would I wouldn't count him out. That's. for sure. I I'll be watching. He will be watching. He'll be tuned in. I've watched more basketball than I have. in the like definitely in the last 5. years. I've watched more recently. It's. been like it's been legit fun. Even if I. don't really care about the two teams. playing. Yeah. It's just on. There's. nothing. What is on? It is on. So, I.

start watching. They play hard, man. Like, these dudes play super hard. Super. physical. And there's going to be a. highlight at some point in the first 30. seconds of me watching. There's going to. be something that'll captivate me. And. then it's not bad for background, too. If you're scrolling or doing anything. else in your life, good sound. Whenever. there's obviously something big, good. replays coming, you can check it. It has. been a good watch. I agree. Late night. though. Late, late late. They even play. I mean, the only good game tonight's at. 10. And I say those Clippers Nuggets. games have been unbelievable. Clippers.

nuggets tonight 10 p.m. Eastern on TNT. and True TV, the home of Impractical. Jokers and Lizard Lick Towing. Impract Joker going on. No, they brought. it too hard. Okay. What do you mean? What does that mean? The Impractable. Jokers were on every single 30 minutes. on True TV, I think. They're for Yeah. And then what was the Lizard Lick. Towing? They had their run. Yep. And. then there was uh what else was over. there? Uh they do a lot of Was it JLo?

Wasn't JLo part of this show or she. produced it or something? I think she. she knew stars. She knew stars. immediately. If she had if she had I. think she was she had a golden eye for. talent. I think she would have wanted to. get on board with this for sure. Was. live PD on True TV. Live PD had a little bit of a run. It. was in my neighborhood where I used to. live. Is what would you do going on it. channel? Sorry, what? What would you do. is on ABC. That's a great show. That was. a great show. I like I like those shows. Hey, that's a real scene in there. Yeah,

there's some real They put some people. in some real pickles. Mhm. Hey, let's. see what type of human you are real. quick. 45 cameras. You're the bad human. If you're you end up being the bad human. and not, you know, doing the right. thing, you don't want Don't sign that. waiver. Don't let them show that. Don't. let them air that episode. Yeah. Let. them blur your face if they have to. Just you need to you need to get you. need to survive that one. Yeah. I mean. that is a uh. what a spot. But also good human. Yeah. A lot of good humans on there. Mhm. Does. bring you a little bit of hope. What was. I watching last night? There was.

something uh Oh, yeah. Braun Breaker. spearing Sami Zayn in half. Yeah. Makes. you feel good. Sammy so painful. Makes. you feel good. Sammy feel good. Sammy. could have just won the Smackdown at the. title. Could have. He said, "No, I'm not. running from anything." Respect. Yeah. Teach him a lesson. I think Bron could. go one-on-one. With with the gorilla. Yeah. I thought. about that last night when I seen him. I'm like, "What if we got 40 of him?". Yeah. You know? Yeah. There aren't 40 of.

him, right? Big Papa Pump offered me. some help for my match against Gunther. I would saw that. Take it. I want to let. him know. I I don't think I got enough. time, Big Papa Pump, for whatever you be. able. I mean, maybe mentally you'd be. able. Yeah. Any information, any any. tips available? Big Papa Pump. I would. love strategy. Love strategy, thoughts, ideas. Would love. Vitamins. Vitamins. Yes, sir. Shout out. All right. What a. day today. Tomorrow's a big one, too. More GMs. Let's go. Huge day. More GMs. tomorrow. AJ, we'll actually say uh.

hashtag. cuz you can't really do the apostrophe. there. Who will it be? Yeah. On the in. the hashtag. Who will it be? Any. clothes? We gonna give any clues? General managers. Oh, football teams. Yeah. Any other? That's a good call. Do they We've said too much. Are they. tenure? Are they young? Are they old? See, now you're doing the whole. mustache. Mhm. What's it rhyme with?

Huh? What's it rhyme with? Their name. Don't ask me. We're not doing it. Boner. Lager. Boner. It's two GMs that weren't. today's GMs. Hash who will they be? Get them both, right? Oh, you want some. free merch? Boom. A Subway gift card. from me. Holy [ __ ] [ __ ] Wow. Sweet. Okay. Slow. down. He's got one last week for Easter. He's got 50 cents on it. Could not wait.

to regift that. This is his first. opportunity he saw to regift that thing. Yep. Boom. Boom. Oh, I love Subway. Some. free merch and. a Subway gift card. Wow. That's at least. 30 bucks. So 2530 bucks. You might have. used it. 25 bucks. Yeah. All right. 25. subway. Yeah. Have you used any of it? No. Don't know. Wow. Cuz they don't have. $5 fulls in. No, they have completely. changed their business model, which I. don't love. Well, they kind of had to. Had to pivot. They.

had to pivot. Yes, they did. All right. Uh, we'll see you tomorrow. Tomorrow's a. big day. Hash. Who will they be? If you. get both of the general managers. correctly, you will be automatically put. into a pile of people to be randomly. selected to win some of our merch. And. one lucky winner randomly selected will. win a Subway gift card from our friend, one half of the Hammer D Cowboys AP. Tone. You all are the greatest people on. earth. Thank you for allowing us to do. this for a living. AJ, great work today. Boys in the back. Great work. Boxing table. Yeah. Yeah. Way to battle.

Way to keep batting. Way to battle. Tone, good job today. Thanks. You, too. Look at you showcasing, you know, the. philanthropical side. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. philanthropic tone donating back a. gift that you got just a week ago. I was. inspired by your promo last night. talking about how much you give back. So, there we go. Oh, you you don't see. it every day, but getting yelled at you. That was cool seeing those lacrosse. kids. So, thank you. That was That was. awesome. How sweet was that? That was.

dope. That was really cool. That got me. choked up. Yeah. Thank you, Pat. Thank. you, Pat. No problem. Lucky to do it. Now, Pat Kavanaaugh, you know, obviously. a little bit of slice of dice and Liam. Enman. Liam Enman, I knew his last name. was Enamman cuz cookies. I I forgot. Liam, I apologize. Like best goalie in. the world or whatever the case is. That. was an awesome thing to watch. See some. future dogs with some sticks in. I'll. tell you what, lacrosse is a sport. Lacrosse is a sport. Physicality. Got to. be fast. Obviously, a lot of strategy. Uh I think it bodess well for the. American athlete. I I I think great.

schools. That's why everybody says it. could be future future future sport. because I think that uh our country. would do good at it if more people. played it. Ain't that right, Conor? Yeah, no doubt. And it's in the Olympics. now. So hopefully that does kind of. bring some more eyes. Gives you more of. a path uh and reason to play. They all. said thanks Pat, which was cool. One of. them had a one microphone and the kid. just screamed in it. I like that kid's. mom. He's probably a long sticker. Probably a captain. Yeah. Yeah. Probably. got sealing chest. Uh no problem at all. Lucky to be a part of it and Yeah. Yeah,

it feels like, you know, um if you if. you tell people that you give back, people say, "Well, you sound like you're. why'd you even give back to begin with?". It's like, "Well, maybe I can inspire. other people to want to give back." You. know, like this is available. You can do. this. You can give 600 lacrosse sticks. to kids around the city of New York City. and I assume many other places and. hopefully spur a dream or spur an. opportunity or introduce a game or a. sport that could change a life forever. You can do this and uh we're lucky that. we get to be a part of so many cool. things. And uh the only reason it is.

because people like you watch us. And we. will see you tomorrow. We got a big one. Be a friend. Tell a friend something. nice. It might change their life. We're. in this thing together. Team on me. Team. on three. 1 2 3. Good night.