The Pat McAfee Show Live | Tuesday April 15th 2025

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friend something nice could change their. life. [Music]. Hello beautiful people and welcome to. our humble abode the Thunderdome on this. Jackie Robinson day Tuesday April 15th. 2025 this program starts now sports are. fantastic and obviously we get a chit a. chance to chitchat about it every single. day and we're lucky for that baseball.

will obviously be a topic of discussion. because it is Jackie Robbins today so we. will certainly have to celebrate the. world changing the sports world changing. ing and it's also tax day, so everybody. figure that out. You know, the IRS. doesn't play any games. Who knows what. the future holds for the IRS? Seems like. every single day my algorithm tells me. something new about that world. But what. we do know is that if uh if you mess. with them, they will uh mess with you. Let's make sure we get that entire thing. handled. Huge day for sports. The NBA. playoffs essentially begin tonight with. their playing games. Here we go. Now,

obviously the way the NBA does their. playing games and the way they do their. playoffs is certainly unique. 7 vers8. tonight in the Eastern Conference. between the Hawks and the Magic. 7 vers8. tonight in the Western Conference. between the Grizzlies and the Warriors. The winner of that will take the seven. seed in the playoffs in their respective. conferences. Then nine will play 10 on. Wednesday in the East and in the West. And then whoever loses that game is out. Whoever wins that game will play the. losers of tonight's game to cement.

themselves as the number eight overall. seed in their respective conferences. And then once they get in, boom, now. we're playing the game. So that is the. NBA playoffs. I do believe they're. trying to make the best teams in and get. the best teams in. But on the Western. Conference, from second to like eight. seed is like a four game spread whenever. it comes to the records. So you got a. lot of great teams packed in those top. eight spots on the Western Conference. And then on the Eastern side, it's uh. from about 7 to 10 is kind of crap. Kind. of kind of kind of [ __ ] in this entire. thing. Eastern conference seemingly a.

little bit more topheavy. Western. Conference with the Clippers coming into. play as well. And with Jimmy Butler and. Golden State Warriors not playing great. right now obviously, but in the playoffs. will be different. And how about John. Morant who is now taking his words and. tossing them into the crowd and then not. listening to the reactions post. Is the. Memphis Grizzly time now with the, you. know, the the words? I thought that was a grenade. He didn't. want to hear the screams of the people. blowing up. No. Those are his words. Those cuz he.

always gets taken out of context. So he. taking he takes his words, goes snaps. those off and it says, "Take them." And. then he goes, "I don't want to hear it. I don't want to hear it." Love it. Yeah. I wouldn't mind. And I think we uh we've. been on this uh hype train since the. beginning. Like John, there's no reason. for anything to take you away from sport. uh take you away from sports world. We. love you. If you think you're being. judged unfairly, cool. Just deal with. it. We need you to deal with it. And. let's not forget about a sword. Let's. not forget about a sword of words. You.

know, can't spell sword without word. Bingo. And we need him to make sure he. does that as well. The NBA playin is. obviously a start of something very. exciting and we can't wait to see the. stars. Remember, in the NBA, it is so. long. In all the serieses that take. place, this is literally where the stars. are born. The reason why LeBron James. became the face of the NBA, not only. because whenever he was in high school, he was supposed to be the guy. Had a. Nike deal, the whole thing, but because. he played in the playoffs for like 20. years straight, all the way through the.

finals. Every playoff game is on. national television. This is when people. learn of the league. And I know, you. know, the NFL stole Christmas from the. NBA, but for the casual fan, the. playoffs is when they learn about the. NBA. If you're not in the playoffs, you. might as well not even exist. For some. people, that time is now. Who will. create their legendary story? Who will. be the champions? Will it be the Boston. Celtics again? Let's go to the toxic. table. Boss Connor and Tatai Schmidt. Feels like in the Eastern Conference, it's either Boston or the Pacers. I.

guess the Cavs have an opportunity. The. Knicks obviously always going to be. dancing, but there is a chance that the. Boston Celtics are in the middle of a. run right now in an Eastern Conference. that's not as deep as the West, and I. think that is on show uh display this. evening. Yeah, not even close. I think. the other teams that have, you know, projected coming into the season, remember the Sixers were the real hot. team. They're getting Paul George. obviously they crumbled. They suck. Uh. and you know, the Bucks as well. People. thought the Bucks were going to be very. very good with Lillard and Giannis with. a whole season, but they also kind of.

fell off a bit. But yeah, this this is. kind of where it comes to life here. You. know, you just mentioned it like this is. when all the basketball fans kind of. like myself, like Bruce, like some of. the others in the office who claim. they're fans of some teams, but it it it. really becomes a very competitive. season. Yeah. But let me get to that. Yeah. But huge fan of the Heat, but. we're talking about the playin games, you know, we're talking about tonight, you know, Magic Hawks. Congrats cuz. whoever wins is going to get [ __ ] pumped. by the Boston Celtics. I I don't want.

those fans to take that for granted. you. know, enjoy your day in the sun because. I think it will be cool for you to get. this Tuesday in April. You know, we talk. about certain days that fans look. forward to. This should be one of those. days for the Magic and the Hawks because. as soon as they win, they're going to. fly to Boston. They're probably going to. stay in a hotel. A fire alarm is. probably going to get pulled at that. hotel. They're not say uh. coincidentally. Yeah. Well, fires. happen, you know, and especially in. Boston that that can take place, especially at the away team hotels.

Bingo. Yeah. Exactly. So I I want. Welcome to Yeah. Welcome to New England. Welcome to where championships, you. know, basically live. You know, this. this trophy is just not on my desk for. fun. You know, you earned this thing. last year. You know, I mean, Braun said. it, you know, everyone's coming at the. Celtics. And the Celtics are kind of the. team to beat. And I know everyone in. Boston, I know everyone in the NBA is. still looking at the Celtics as that. team. But that's the East. Like you. talked about the West LA. Last year the. Warriors were a six seed and they ended.

up beating the Kings who were a three. seed in the first round of the playoffs. Like the West playoffs are going to be. awesome. I I I would say even you know. Warriors Grizzlies and you know don't. want to make assumptions but you can. assume whoever loses that game is going. to win the the next game. So all four of. those series I think are going to be. great. Warriors uh 0 for three in. playing games. I guess Steph Curry 0 for. three in playing games, but they got. Jimmy Butler on their team. playoff. Butler now with Golden State obviously. alongside Draymond and the rest of the. crew and they got Jaw Morant who they.

have to battle and contend with at 10. p.m. on TNT. Let's go to nine-year NFL. vet Darius J. Butler who was absent from. the conversation that Connor just. mentioned about NBA fans, but this is uh. shaping up to be a magical playoff. series. I stars are uh potentially. aligning for the NBA, which is what any. league was. Yeah. And this is you. mentioned earlier. This is where stars. are born. Now we obviously have the old. guard, the LeBron staff if he can get in. there. Joker kind of be in that mix now. as well. Giannis, those guys who kind of.

established, have won championships, but. now this is this is an opportunity for. the new guys. You know, Paulo who's had. a great season, Orlando kind of in and. out of the lineup. He he's having an. opportunity and to kind of get back on. that big stage and maybe get to the. finals. Hallebertton obviously he he's. coming off a, you know, gold medal run. He's having a a fantastic season. Has a. big match up against the Bucks in the. first round. And then what the Houston. Rockets have been able to do as a team, as a young team, to be the two seed in. the West. You mentioned how bunched up. they are in the West, but what uh. Udoka's been able to do with that squad. out on the west side. Uh that's been.

awesome. So I'm I'm excited to see. obviously the playoffs start and then. the new stars kind of make the names for. themselves and obviously the old heads. take care of business as well. The. Clippers are a team. Oh yeah, they're. going well. Jimmy Harden still. You talk. about the old guard Kawawaii. Kawhai. Absolutely. 47 minutes the other night. He's playing Harden's ball in. Absolutely. And the Clippers are a team. now. Yeah, their squad Zubot like he. he's a beast on the boards putting up. double doubles uh every night. It was a. interview a few weeks ago went hard and. I think they said if the season was to. end they were to be in the playing game. and he has no playin experience and he.

was like nah don't plan on it we won't. be in it and they closed out the season. to make sure that they weren't in it. So. on this first round match up, I think. all these matchups in the first round. are going to be great regardless of how. it shakes out. And um this is when it. matters, man. Even with betting, you. know, we've been looking at if you a. prop better and you've been looking at. these numbers, maybe they're at 24, 25. now, you know, they're up around the 30. So guys are going to put up numbers. going to be big time moments and. somebody's going to make uh some special. memories for for teams and fans out. there. OKC the odds on favorite to win. the championship. Congrats to SGA.

That's obviously tough because they've. never done it before. You know, SGAA. hasn't done it, so it's like hard to. necessarily bet on that. But what. they've done all season has just been. great. The conversation about Oklahoma. City all year has been we should be. talking about OKC more. We should be. talking about OKC more. Well, now is the. time. National television every single. game. Good luck to SGA and the boys. Obviously, I think it's good for the NBA. to have teams like Oklahoma City, to. have teams like Indiana, to have teams. that are in these cities that are very. passionate about their uh their teams, but not as many humans. And uh yeah,

congrats to the NBA. We're in your time. now. Let's go. The time is now. NBA. starts this evening. Stars are playing. Now, let's talk about Jackie Robinson. Day. Baseball is obviously happening. Jackie Robinson is one of the figures in. baseball that gets celebrated in a. massive way. I assume that continues. today, Ty. Yeah. So, every April 15th uh. is Jackie Robinson Day. The MLB. initiated it in uh 2004. So, and it just. commemorates when Jackie Robinson made. his debut. It was in 1947. a lot of.

people know he broke the modern-day. color barrier. So like the MLB had like. 90 years of segregation before he. played. He got treated like [ __ ]. obviously, but uh his teammates loved. him. And the owner of the Brooklyn. Dodgers, there's a movie that came out. uh that basically like, you know, kind. of shows like what he had to go through. to get Jackie Robinson. And obviously. Jackie comes in and he's the he's the. best player in the bigs by a wide wide. margin. So yeah, every April 15th, every. team in the MLB and every umpire, they. all wear 42 to just kind of celebrate.

and appreciate what he did for the game. of baseball as a whole. Couldn't imagine. what his life was like going in front of. a stadium uh of people walking out. there. Oh yeah. You know, all by. yourself. Had to feel alone a lot. Obviously for uh that time period, I was. not alive then. Uh, I obviously cannot. relate to the situation, but walking out. there all by yourself, not knowing what. the response is going to be or the. reaction is going to be and then to. perform the way he did at sport by not. really letting everything outside kind.

of affect them inside. What a moment for. sport. What a moment for United States. of America. Love that the MLB uh. celebrates this. Yeah, I love how they. continue to do it as well. you talked. about not knowing the the other part. about the scary part about is knowing. you know what type of response you're. going to get at a lot of these places. and then the teammates you know it. always I'm sure it helped him a ton. being with certain teammates um that. looked out for him actually watching. that old Celtics uh doc that comment was. talking about yeah Bob Ken there was. talking about Bill Russell and the other. uh black teammates that are on that team.

just the different things they had to. deal with traveling around the country. and a lot of times you know sports are. kind of on the forefront of changing. things like this and the. barrier in this country. Same thing. happened in college football in a lot of. these different sports. So, it's dope. what MLB continues to do. Uh for the. Jackie Robinson legacy, the sports are. unifier. You know, you watch Remember. the Titans. Yeah. You know, there's like. uh so many documented things that have. happened throughout history that have. brought the world together through sport. and competition and also spectacle and. saying, "Holy hell, what a talent." And.

that certainly was what Jackie Robinson. was. So, shout out to Jackie Robinson. Shout out to sports. Oh, yeah. Jackie, shout out to April 15th. Shout out to. the world continuing to get better and. shout to baseball having an entertaining. season thus far. I've enjoyed turning on. the games and watching Dodgers. Are we. uh are we still all in on the Dodgers? I. heard they got their asses beat by the. Chicago Cubs. Yeah, they actually had. their uh worst home loss in their. franchise history against the Cubs. Pummeled them. Yeah, Cubs have been one. of like the big surprises. Yeah, although they did just, you know, one of.

their best pitchers uh is going to need. Tommy John. So, a little baseball. So, it's one of those things. Uh really the. the big thing so far, at least for me. watching, is we need to get into the. warmer months because it's been like. unseasonably cold in a lot of these. places. We were in Pittsburgh and it. really wasn't that bad. But like it's. like 35 40° too too cold to be playing. baseball. And you could see like skins. is stuff. Like it doesn't move as much. So like all these guys are major league. hitters. When it's that cold and you're. throwing 95, you're just throwing like. straight fast balls. So guys get pinged.

around a little bit. And even like the. Yankees, they've had a couple players. come out and say like, you know, like. Jazz Chisum, he they got him from the. Marlins last year and he was like, I was. playing in Miami. Like it's it's too. [ __ ] cold. I can't play out here. He's like he's got a terrible summer. sport. Yeah, exactly. So, uh but yeah, there have been, you know, like all the. kind of big teams who we thought would. be good. Like the the Mets have started. very very well. Uh the Yankees had a. little bit of a slump. They hit four. homers last night and came out of it. Obviously, the Dodgers, the Padres's uh. are undefeated at home so far this year.

they're 11 and0 uh at home. So, it's one. of those things where again now you got. the the NBA playoffs start and the NHL. playoffs are right around the corner, but if you find yourself on one of these. nights where there's no other sports. going on, like watching one of these. kind of marquee games, like you can do. worse than that cuz you're seeing big. time bombs from, you mentioned it with. the stars in the NBA, like the stars. have been performing early in this. baseball season, which helps quite a. bit. Only thing that matters in sports, I think, is if the stars show up, which. brings us to the Masters. Ratings have. been released for the Masters over the.

weekend. The Masters of Golf down there. in Augusta, Georgia. Hard to find for. like half the day, all the days until. about 3:00. 12.7 million. And then from. 7 to 7:15 overtime, 19.5 million people watch Rory put that. thing to 2 feet after missing a putt to. win it on 18 and then going into extra. holes with Justin Rose. What a time for. golf. And it's all because the stars. showed up. That is legitimately why any. of these sports do well. Whenever your.

bigname players play great, now I'm not. saying there isn't time for a new name. or an unknown to kind of break through, but for a league to have success, for a. sport to have success, for the world to. be interested. We need to know who the. hell is kind of operating and. performing. Rory Mroy at the top of that. thing with Dsham Bro to kick off Sunday. was beautiful. Oberg, Scotty Sheffller. in the mix, let alone Justin Rose doing. his thing who we obviously have known. over the years. Huge for golf, massive. for Rory and the numbers showcased it.

Congrats to the Masters. Congrats to. golf. And once again, that leads. directly back to the conversation of. like we wish that they were all golfing. against each other every single weekend. because this was Phil missed the cut, Brooks missed the cut, a bunch of big. names missed the cut at uh the Masters. still brought a huge number and uh. that's only going to continue. I love. the sound of golf on the TV in the. background cuz it's one of those ones. that'll give you a heads up when you. should watch, you know, cuz whether it's.

a commentator or it's the roar of the. crowd or you'll see somebody shot. happening and you'll hear a roar from. somewhere else and it's like, "Oh, can't. wait till they cut to wherever that is. Here's guy you never heard of from 185. yards out." Well, I wonder what he's. going to do here. Oh, stick it or put it. in the hole. It's uh it's a wonderful. sport. It's a great game. Obviously, a. magical moment for Rory Mroy in golf had. great weather and great results through. the Masters. Good luck to all of them. Congratulations. Now, football's still. cooking. Uh there's news coming out of.

Miami. One half of the Hammer Cowboys AP. Tone. Uh Jaylen Ramsey might be on the. move from the Miami Dolphins. Do they. have enough people to field a team down. there? And obviously the draft is next. week. Okay, we got Wrestlemania this. weekend. cannot wait to get to Las. Vegas. Then the draft is next week in. Green Bay, Wisconsin. This is when a lot. of movement kind of takes place. Jaylen. Ramsay allegedly on his way out of the. Miami Dolphins. Shador Sanders is doing. another workout for the New York Giants. this week. The Saints now need a.

quarterback. Feels like there's a lot of. things brewing in the football world. Tone. Yeah, a ton. And uh things don't. seem to be great down in Miami. I saw a. tweet where if they were to trade Jaylen. Ramsey, I believe four draft picks. before the draft, they would only have. $7 million in cap space and that's about. what they need to uh have for their. draft pick. So then they wouldn't be. able to sign anyone else and as Gump. knows they there's a lot of positions. they still need to sign this off. seasonason. So things aren't going great. uh down in Miami. But like as far as the. draft's concerned and you and you talked.

about Shadur, Jaylen's a hell of a. player that we need to make sure. everybody understands. Great player. top. five corner still still in the prime of. his career. Can play. We had the slot. defender conversation yesterday. Can. play outside, can play inside, can. blitz, can cover, can tackle, can do. absolutely everything at a high level at. the quarterback position. 21 million. with what we're seeing everybody else. get paid at the current rate. Not bad. for a team to pick up. Yeah. He just got. a bunt what last year, right? To make. Yeah. He went back to the table. It's. Chris Greer masterass all over again. Beautiful. There's no vision. The guy.

got no idea what he's doing. Paid this. guy last year. you're you're going to. trade them and then still have the dead. cap. It makes no sense. We don't have. any safeties. We have two cornerbacks, maybe one defensive tackle. Armstead, Campbell, Ramsay gone, all three of our. leaders. We are cooked, folks. It's I'm close. I'm close. I'm close to. getting the NFL hat. I just going to be. a fan of the league. I'm close. No, you. can't be Rob Low. Is that who Rob is the.

NFL hat? You can't do that. You've been. a Dolphins fan through the thick thick. thick of this entire thing and the thin. of this entire thing. So what? You're. another year of probably not going to. win at all. You know, at least we'll be. lucky not to finish last in the East. Yeah, but if you finish last, you know. what that brings? Draft season. Exactly. Good draft. Draft season gets real. You. know, they say you can't win the off. season. I will never forget that off. seasonason. We got Kyrie. I mean, that. might have been the best time of my life. as a Dolphins fan. We did win the. offseason. Well, how's that going?

obviously now, but you know, it was fun. for a year or two. Like this sucks. Tyreek just went back to the table, too. Last year, he got a bump. And if I had. to make a bet today on uh April 15th, I. don't, you know, I don't think Tyreek or. Jaylen Ramsey starts the season. So, who. are you guys playing down there? Is this. replacement football? You got Kiana. Reeves in the We can't even pay our. draft picks. We can't feel the team. We. got no O line. We got nothing. We got. [ __ ] nothing. But we got Show Me the. Money. We got that. We'll never forget. that. got our franchise quarterback. Do.

like a Vince Papali like, "Hey, this is. Miami." I mean, you know how many. superstar athletes are down there just. waiting for an opportunity? Like, if. Mike McDaniel, he's the coolest guy in. the South. You just have him kind of get. some Joe off the street. I bet Mike. McDaniel can draw league man. League. man. Couple UFFL guys, maybe. Oh, big. weekend. Over a million people. Who made that? Who made that? That was. rude. You see Droying hit from 50.

something. Big time kick. Love that. He. could probably play uh out. He could do. the Tyreek Hill role for the Miami. Dolphins. Yeah. It is interesting what. Miami is doing down there. I You You. said you can't win a Super Bowl in the. offseason. You can't win in the. offseason. Feels like the Dolphins have. certainly lost this off season. You. know, I don't know if anybody else has. got worse than Miami, but keep on uh. keep on trucking down there. You guys. got great beach, great restaurants, super nice. The weather's awesome. Great. UFC event. Jaylen Wadd, great great.

player. Love Jaylen Wadd. Yeah, cool. dance. He needs to keep doing it. Tyreek. Tyreek's his mentor. So, okay, so let's. get away. Let's get away from the Miami. Dolphins uh situation. Hopefully, they're able to figure it out down. there. And to the Finn fam, though, we're pulling for you. Okay, we are we. are pulling for you. But draft. conversation has heated up because the. Saints now potentially needing a. quarterback with Derek Carr's shoulder. injury and potentially being out for an. entire season. What the hell happened to. him? What was it? How did he get hurt?

Maybe this is why the Raiders were like, "We're not letting you in our building. We don't know what's going to happen.". Okay, we can't have any injuries take. place. I'm excited to learn what was he. was he wakeboarding? Like what? How do. you How do you hurt your shoulder so bad. you're going to miss an entire season. ahead of time and nobody even knows it's. going to take place? Godspeed for him on. his recovery. Uh the New Orleans Saints, are they in the market for a veteran. quarterback? Are they in the market for. maybe uh Aaron Rogers? Are they in the. market for a rookie quarterback? Who. would be the rookie quarterback? Well, odds are saying maybe Shadore Sanders.

ends up down there. I think Shador would. be awesome down there in the Bayou. Maybe Jackson Dart obviously played in. the SEC knows Southern Hospitality even. though he's a Utah guy who was. originally out in California. That kind. of throws a curveball into this entire. draft process. Shador working out with. the Giants. Big deal. I think there's. reports now coming out that potentially. the Giants front office are a little bit. torn on what quarterback is the right. quarterback to go with. Remember the. Giants were all in on every veteran. quarterback that he could possibly be.

in. Allegedly $100 million offer to. Matthew Stafford fully guaranteed. Allegedly Aaron Rogers, they were fully. in on Aaron Rogers. Allegedly. They. bring in Jameus. They bring in Russell. Wilson. Shane and Dol understand the. situation in New York, especially with. last year's Hard Knocks off season with. moving on from Saquon. Saquon going on. do what he did. Daniel Jones is now on. the Indianapolis Colts. So, they. understand that is a pressure pack. moment. Will they go with a rookie. quarterback while also having a very. veteran filled quarterback room possibly.

to show him the way? Is it Shador? That's the combo happening this week, I. guess. Yeah, for the Giants, there's. always there's always levels to this. thing. Um, and you know, we talk about. Dball and Shane. Is this their last. season to potentially, you know, secure. a job for for their future because they. were potentially on the hot seat this. off season? And does drafting Shadur uh. help them that with this help them with. that this season if they're going to. have Russell Wilson or Jameus Winston as. their quarterback? And then, you know, they're going for another workout, which. they've already attended his his pro or.

sorry, his showcase workout. They were. at every single one of the Colorado. games this year, whether was that that. was for him or Travis Hunter. or is, you. know, a lot of people are speculating, is this the owner coming in saying like, I'm not worried about your guys' jobs. next year? I want Shadur because he's. going to be our quarterback for the. future. So, there's there's levels to. that and why there's going to be another. private workout with Shadur. And then, you know, a couple weeks ago, uh, Kyper. actually mocked Jackson Dart to um to. the Saints. Now, Shadur is the favorite, odds on favorite to go to the Saints. right now, plus 125, I think, plus 330.

for the Giants, somewhere around there. But, so the Saints were potentially. looking at a quarterback already. um. because of the car situation, not his. injury, but just they weren't going to. move forward with him as their future. quarterback. But now that this has. happened, it's it's definitely like put. a a um accelerant on this situation for. their quarterback. Now, a lot of people. are thinking it start. A lot of people. are thinking if he gets by if Shader. Sanders gets by three, it's definitely. going to be the Saints for shooter. So, as far as that situation goes, it's it's. I mean, everything all we know is Cam. Ward's going one. That's it. Full chaos.

Yeah. next Thursday night at the NFL. draft in Green Bay, Wisconsin, which. great we will be at. Hell yeah. Shout. out to the NFL folks. Shout out shout. out to the uh you know, let's go shake. their hands. Let's try to make a. positive out of this entire thing, which. we will always try to do in every. situation legitimately. There might be. some times where it doesn't feel that. way, but inevitably going to try to be. an additive to everything. So, we will. be there. Full chaos is potentially. looming for this NFL draft. Yeah,

because it the Browns allegedly were. only taking a quarterback. That was like. months ago. Browns are definitely taking. a quarterback. Now they're not. definitely taking a quarterback somehow. And then the Giants. Well, if there's. their quarterback available or are they. going to take the best player available. in Travis Hunter? And then what happens. with the Patriots pick? Is somebody. going to want to trade up now because. there's potentially quarterbacks ahead? It's this is the most amount of question. marks I think we've had going into a. draft since we've covered it, especially. in the first 5 10 picks. Yeah,

definitely the order like it feels like. we know like Ward's going one, but we. know Ward, Hunter, and Carter are going. in the top four. Like no matter what, they're not falling past New England cuz. for New England, they're going to take. Carter or they're going to take Hunter. if they're there. If not, that's when. like where they can trade. And well. that's when the trade back would come. into place where like it well if the. Saints you know if Sanders is there at. at four who says the Saints or someone. else now because of this Jackson Dart. conversation like someone in that mid. tier who maybe thought like oh early on.

this guy's going to fall to us but now. all of a sudden you know they don't know. and Abdul Carter who's represented by. Drew Rosenhouse he has his final meeting. today and that's with the Patriots and. uh Rosenhouse told Carter like hey we're. only visiting the top four teams we're. not going past any of these other player. or any of these other places you're. going to go in the top four. So, it. really does depend like where are you. the Browns and Giants at when it comes. to the quarterback cuz you know we've. referenced it a bunch of times but the.

other thing and this was before we even. knew Cam Ward was locked in at one. The. only thing that we knew is the Browns. were taking a quarterback at two. And. that was like before 10. Like that's. still when Tennessee had questions if. they were going to take a quarterback or. if they were going to trade out. generational players. If they were going. to take Yeah. a Carter, Abdul Carter or, you know, Travis Hunter cuz they've been. talked about as generational players. And obviously it's clearly gone to Cam. Ward over them two. But it it's just. insane. I'm so pumped up for it. Me as. well. Uh cannot wait for next Thursday.

in Green Bay, Wisconsin. this weekend in. Las Vegas for Wrestlemania. We'll be. live Friday from WWE World. Uh 9:00 a.m. local in Vegas. That's early. Yeah, it. is. Okay. Noon show, obviously Eastern, 9:00 a.m. local. Doors for WWE World. open at 8:00 a.m. And Roman. Reigns, the original tribal chief, will. be joining us at 9:15 local. cannot wait. to hear his thoughts just days before.

the main event against CM Punk and Seth. Frein Rollins. And then Triple H, the. mind behind this Wrestlemania will join. us in the second hour. And I believe. there's one more massive guest that we. will announce later this week joining us. on Friday. We cannot wait to get out. there. And then on Monday, we'll be out. there as well. Massive guests in. abundance. We cannot wait for. Wrestlemania weekend in Las Vegas. And. also, the time is now for the NBA to. take over prime time slots, for the NBA. to take over topical sports.

conversations, for the NBA to find out. who their next champion will be. Tonight, there's playing games to decide. the Eastern and Western Conferences, seventh and eighth seeds. Who will tell. us more information about that than the. man that runs the game? The best agent. in the NBA, the founder of Clutch. Sports, friend of the program, ladies. and gentlemen, Rich Paul. What's up? What's up, fellas? Okay, so. you told us you might potentially be in. transit. The fact that you're not, I. want to let you know we thank you for we.

thank you for it because you were. worried about the quality of the. connection, I think. So, you're only. holding up right now for us to talk to. us. So, we appreciate you, Rich. Great. to see you. Okay, let's talk about this. NBA playoffs are where stars are made. This is uh when the whole world is. watching the NBA. Prime time every. single game. Best time of year. Best. time of year right now. It is. It. probably does feel like that way as an. agent, right? Like real people. Well, with Yeah, you have everything. All the. sports are, you know, draft, NFL draft, now you have the NBA playoffs,

obviously, hockey, and then getting back. into baseball. So, it's it's that it's. that time of year. It's perfect. I just. came from the Masters, which was. unbelievable, by the way. So, Oh, you. were down there in the Masters. Wow. Oh, it was incredible. Yeah, it was. incredible. What' you have? Do you have. the fermentoto cheese sandwich or. whatever they call it? I I did not, but. I did have the peach ice cream sandwich, which was great. You know, my my good. friends at at uh Delta really took care. of me. Um Ed Bash, who's a good good. friend of mine, the CEO of Delta and his.

team, Anakah and his team, they really. really rolled out the green carpet for. us. So, it was fantastic. I really. enjoyed the trip. Great. The green. carpet. I like that. How about nobody on. their cell phones? How awesome is that? Beautiful times. No cell phones. I'm not. going to lie. I panicked for. about two hours, but after I realized. it's okay, it was good. It was good. But. they did have phone service, just not. your cell phone. It was great. It's like. uh you feel like you're going to miss. everything, you know, and then you get. back to your phone and you realize,

okay, I can take a day away from this. Was that your first time down there? That was my first time. I've been. invited a few times. Hadn't hadn't. hadn't gone, but this time, you know, I. couldn't couldn't turn it down. It was. great. It's really great. Are you. something I look to go back for every. year? I'm not a big time golfer, but I. did find myself watching the rest of the. of the of the Masters. Um, which, you. know, and then I did see my golf my golf. coach uh at at a game and so maybe maybe. that's all a sign. Maybe I'll get back. into it. Hey, they say a lot of business.

is done out there on that golf course, Rich. I assume you know. I could do. business anywhere, man. I don't. Okay, let's talk about the business. tonight. The playin games. Seven and. eight taking each other on in the. Eastern and Western Conference. Winner. cements itself as the seventh seed. Loser has to take on the winner of the. 910 games happening tomorrow night. When. we look at tonight, Eastern Conference. not as deep as the Western Conference. Feels like Grizzlies Warriors. Obviously, a lot more hype than Hawks. Magic. How should we be viewing these.

games tonight, Rich in your eyes? Yeah, you know, the hype is one thing. Obviously, anytime Steph Curry and and. and and you know, the Draymonds of the. world are involved, it's going to be. hyped. But when you think about the the. the East matchup, it's pretty, you know, it's pretty even evenly matched. Uh you. look at Paulo and Vagner, obviously have. Trey and Dyson. Dyson is is is right up. there for probably um most improved, but. definitely on the on the um first team. all defense. I think they'll miss Jaylen.

Johnson, the Hawks, uh, and and and. obviously the magic of Miss Suggs with. with his ball pressure, although they. have KCP and and Anthony Black who who. who defends the ball really well. You. know, I imagine mostly he's going to put. Trey in every pick and roll and also. blitz them on the on the on the. offensive on the defensive end and make. someone else beat him. Um, and then, you. know, with with the Hawks, I think their. others going to have to step up. I mean, you know, Trey could be Trey at times, but he's gonna be dealing with much. bigger defenders. It's gonna be.

interesting. I, you know, this is a. tossup. This is really a tossup. This. one is. Okay. So, you can go either way. Eastern Conference tossup. Western. Conference Grizzlies, Warriors tonight. Uh, Jimmy Butler being added to the. Warriors. Does that change them? Because, uh, Steph's 0 and3 in playin. games is the stat. And, uh, does that. matter now that Jimmy's on the squad? It. definitely does. It definitely does. anytime you add someone that has that, you know, that playoff experience like a. Jimmy, he's been to the finals, you.

know, twice. Um, and, you know, he's. he's been playoff Jimmy for many years. now. You you add that to a Draymond and. a Steph who we know what their. championship pedigree is and how they. lock in during the playoffs. They're. going to be tough to beat. They're going. to be tough to beat, but you got those. young guns. You got those young guys. over there in in. um in Memphis. Uh, can Jiren Jackson. stay on the floor is going to be the. real issue there. Uh, Bane, look for him. to have a big game and Jaw will be J.

But I think from a Golden State. perspective, it's going to be the others. that really helps them win this game. Can Moody and Pots really make shots if. they're if they're on the floor? I. thought last game having Payton and. Draymond kind of shrunk the floor for. them versus, you know, having some some. guys that can actually help spread the. floor. So when when Steph gets into his. coming off of uh different screens and. things like that have a little bit more. spacing and then when you have Jimmy. there just all three of those guys it.

made a little bit tough but I know for. more for the defensive end of things. So. we'll see how that works tonight. I. would have to probably give the homec. court advantage aspect to it and. obviously Steph is always Steph anytime. you have him um you you definitely have. a chance but you know this is what the. playoffs are made of you know um this is. where guys really really step up and. take advantage of the moment but I do. think Bane will be the X factor uh in. tonight's game love that remember the.

teams that lose tonight are not. necessarily out they will have another. opportunity they will have to play. against the winner of the 910 seed to. inevitably get the eight seed in their. respective conferences. Let's talk about. the playoff picture a little bit more. Debbut has a question for you, Rich. Yeah, with the uh matchups, obviously. got to figure out what's going on with. the top two seeds after the playin, but. with the first round matchups that we. already know on the East and West, uh. which ones are you most interested in. you think will be most interested in the. first round? Look, I listen that Nugget. Clipper series is going to be tough. Um,

obviously you have to deal with Jokic, but Kawhai seems to look extremely. healthy and they've really managed him. properly getting him halfway through the. season, managing his back to backs. I. think he played his first back to back. not too long ago. He looks incredible. and and you know, Too and his game. planning, he's always going to come. prepared. James is tough off that, you. know, anytime you can set a high ball. screen, he's getting downhill. He loves. to draw fouls and and obviously if he. has a three going, he's really tough to. stop. But Jokic is Stokish and they've.

been there before and so that matchup is. going to be um I think that that goes. seven and then you have the you know the. the Timberwolves Lakers matchup that's. not going to be easy one for anybody. anytime you're dealing with that youth. that size that the Timberwolves have and. obviously Ant being able to to be a he. can he can give you 40 any night. Um, on. the other side, you have the experience. with with with LJ and and Luca being, you know, at the level that they play. IQ-wise, etc. But they're going to have.

to depend on their others as well. Austin Reeves would be the X factor in. that series, I believe. Uh, and then. when you look on the East, I'm looking. forward to that Detroit Knicks series. Oh, yeah. Um, I think that's a bad. matchup for the for the Knicks. Um and. and and JB Bickers have has those guys. playing really really well. Uh and so. you know look I think I don't think. there's look the Cavs and Celtics they. can't sleep depending on who they're who.

they get. Um and then obviously you know. the Rockets the win the Rockets play the. Warriors. That'll be very interesting. very interesting series there. And so. look it's the playoffs man. I think I. think um anybody can be beat. There's. never been this much parody in our. league. I think I said this to you guys. before. So, you know, I'll be glued. I'll be at some glued. I'll. be, you know, this is a time where you. don't have enough monitors. Um, and you. know, being at a game is is is kind of. torture for for for a guy like myself.

because I like to hear and see. everything that's going on. Yeah. You. need to catch up on happenings around. the entire NBA that you run. You know, you need to at least keep your head. Yeah. The issue when you're at one game. is there's only two teams here. There's. there's a bunch of other things. happening that obviously you have to. monitor and keep your eye out for. And. you talk about the parody of the league. I think it's been electrifying and I. think it's all because of the stars. You. talk about Kawawaii coming back. It's. like that's good for basketball cuz even. if people haven't been paying attention. all season, the casual fan, they know.

Kawhai's name. They know the Kawawaii. moments. Absolutely. So him and Harden. too. Harden back too in the bright. lights. Yeah. Great news for the NBA I. think as a whole having them. Now, the. NBA made some massive moves, I think, very close to the playoffs. Connor has a. question for you, Rich. Yeah, Rich, it. feels weird that two teams, the Nuggets. and the Grizzlies, who are in the. playoffs and still hunting for a. championship, would fire their coaches. over the last month or so before the uh. most important time starts. Is that. normal? Like, what the hell happened.

there? Is Joic now the head coach of the. Nuggets and then is Jaw the head coach. of the Grizzlies? I assume the second. one probably not, but maybe Joic with. his basketball IQ everyone talks about. as the head coach of the Nuggets now. Like, can you tell us what really went. on there? What the situation was? And. also, I know you have a million things. to do, but you know, we're still. weighing on our clutch sports hats and I. see you have one on and they're really. cool. So, well, well, well, well, this. is not a clutch sports hat. This is. Clutch Athletics, but they're.

way both. We'll send you both. Um, no. I. think the last thing Jokic wants to do. is coach. I I don't think he he has any. desire to do that. He has enough with. his between him putting up triple. doubles and and his horses. But I think. um, you know, it's uncharacteristic. It's not something that we've seen u. consistently throughout our league, but. at the end of the day, when owners make. decisions, it's their team. They they're. making a decision for the reasons that. they are that they all know internally. And so um you know some good coaches.

pretty good coaches were were were let. go of their of their of their roles and. uh you know the timing of it again very. different. We haven't seen that um. before but at the same time they made. the decisions and and now the team has. to focus all these teams have to focus. towards the um towards the playoffs with. with Memphis and obviously uh Denver. the Phoenix situation, three coaches in. three years. I think they look to have.

some consistency there. Obviously, the. the the guy there for them that I think. is probably likely the main stay is a. guy like Devin Booker has a lot invested. there and, you know, doesn't seem like. the type of guy that want to be uprooted. unless you force his hand. And so I I. I'll see we'll all see what happens. there. But I do imagine they try to go a. little younger um maybe and and try to. have some consistency there within their. coaches. They they they've had changes. It's hard to have continuity when you. have that many changes at at at the head.

coaching position. Uh the Mike Malone. thing again, he had been there what I. think 10 years, won a championship, come. from a a great coach's pedigree and and. obviously I've known known Mike a long. time. He's unbelievable coach. I don't. think he has a a hard time finding a job. if he wants one. And the same with. Taylor Jenkins. I don't think those guys. have a hard time finding an, you know, an occupation. Malone just won, right? Then he just won like Yeah. a couple. years ago. Yeah. Yeah. But, you know,

look, it happens. I've been in. situations where coach went to the NBA. finals the year before and was fired. midway through the season. Oh, Vogle. And um well, no, Vogle actually won a. championship and was let go the. following season, but Blat was Blat was. uh was let go during the season. And and. again, it's you know, we all know the. the the I think you you kind of joked. about it earlier um in terms of why. those things happen. You know, these the. owners make these decisions. Uh you. know, players don't make these. decisions. The owners makes the. decisions and so they made a decision.

that they think is best for their. organization going forward. I was. wondering how LeBron got all these. coaches fired from all these other. teams, you know, because that's always. the LeBron makes it. LeBron Yeah. fired owner. Yeah. Yeah. Little guy that runs the NBA. We. know how that goes. We know how that go. I didn't know Joker had some Le Joic in. him, too. You know, his. uh It is wild that these things happen, though. Like, these things happen much. above those guys. and and you know.

obviously the star players they take. some of the blame or whatever the case. may be you know um but you know I think. I think ownership has has an idea of. what which way they want to go in so. we'll see we'll see I do love that these. owners are all billionaires you know. with egos and they think they got to. figure it out Stephen A Smith and I mean. Ishb is a friend of the program Stephen. A Smith said you're staring down. potentially worst owner of all time. three coaches three years tough staring. down with all the deals that they made.

and all the trades that they made, they. weren't able to do anything at the. deadline because they would have been so. hamstrung in the future because of all. the trades and everything they given up. So, it's like the Phoenix Suns now find. themselves in a beautiful city. Beautiful. Beautiful city. Phoenix is. awesome place. The arena. The arena. Glorious. The gorilla. The gorilla. Their their mascot. Great gorilla. And. KD wants to leave. But you just. mentioned it. They're gonna have to go. younger. They're gonna have to do a full. rebuild basically in Phoenix, right? Because Kevin Durant probably on his way. out. When do those discussions really. start happening?

You know, I I think it depends on what. happens this summer. Obviously, Brad has. to the no trade, but um you know, Kevin's in a different in a different. situation. What you're hearing is. they're probably going to work together. and try to find a. solution. Whichever team wants to add a. Kevin uh at at this stage of his career. has to be looking to win a championship. Uh and then what do you give up, right? I think that's the biggest question for. Phoenix. You know, again, Matt's a a. friend and obviously he's he's new to.

the ownership over the last few years. It's tough. You know, you have guys that. want to come in, you want to win, you're. determined to win and you have that. competitive nature, but in the NBA, it's. all about flexibility. It's all about. assets and flexibility. Um, and anytime. you you are stricken with that, it's. very hard to to make change uh for the. better. So, you know, that's going to be a tough. tough tough hole to dig out of, but you. know, I think they they'll find a way to. have some type of um positive direction.

I think it's having a conversation with. Book and see how long he can withstand. maybe not being at that playoff. contention level. And if and and if he. can have some patience from that. perspective, then it gives you a little. bit more um capability to to strategize. If that is not so much, then you have to. think about, okay, we have to move. everybody and start all over. you know, these next few drafts have some strong. talent in it and and you know, with the. way things are are set up from a from a.

CBA perspective, you know, it's going to. get harder and harder to maintain these. these level of players on these major. major contracts uh for for as many years. as as you need to actually to to win. And so if you have it already and you're. not successful, then you have to somehow. figure out how to unclog those pipes and. kind of allow allow it to be a different. flowing system there. Unclog the pipes. You know, you got to take that plunger. out. And I think Ishb is not scared to.

do that. You know, he would mop the. floors. No, I don't think so. He told us. he told us my fans, uh, Phoenix Suns. fans don't want to hear about luxury. tax. They don't care. And he's paid the. most. I think they don't care about if. you're Listen, I've seen it with with. with Dan Gilbert. I've seen it with with. I know Ishbri is not not caring about. paying the luxury tax if his team is. winning. We've seen it with the. Warriors. You know, when you're winning, it's it's a different dynamic, but at. the same time, how long do you want to. carry that, right?

And you're not making the playoffs and. then you can't make any moves. It it's. like Ishb's got to be sitting there. going, "Well, I was doing mortgages two. years ago." Well, he'll pick I I think. he's a very smart guy. He's built an. unbelievable business that that afforded. him to buy the team so he can figure. this out. And you know, again, look at. what Boston is doing. They have a huge. payroll. They won last year. I think. they'll they'll be right there this year. in the conversation to win it again. Then what do they do this summer, right? There's that's another conversation. So.

whether you're winning or losing is. problematic when you have that level of. of contraction contracted players. Um, so yeah, we'll see. I got a loan from. Ishbia's company, you know, so I'm. helping support the entire thing out. there. It feels like he's just thrown. out the window. He's looking for a. 30-year. He's looking for a 30-year. guys. That thing's only happening, you. know, in a two-year span. Excited to see. what happens with Kevin Durant cuz. remember all the excitement whenever he. went to Phoenix. Here we go. That's. going to be it. I mean, yeah, you're.

right. Everywhere. But when we went to. Phoenix, it was here we go. Him Booker. in Phoenix going to be the team that's. going to lead the Suns back. And then. now it's just not. But it's not just. about names, right? You got to have. cohesive cohesiveness. You have to have. obviously there's it's a team thing. So, you know, what that depth looks like, how those guys actually fit the mold, the camaraderie within the locker room. and things like that. Losing obviously. hurts everything. Winning heals a lot of.

different wounds. And so, you know, look, the names on the back of the. jersey is one thing. We've seen it not. work in other instances. 20 years ago, it didn't work when the Lakers had all. the names. They walked into Detroit and. they was they was beat 4-1 in the. finals. So, that that's not the end all. be all. I always love a big two. I don't. really love a big three. I don't I don't. really People talk big three, but I you. know, the big three thing has never. really worked. And you say, "Well, what. happened in Miami?" That wasn't really a.

big three. Um there was three guys that. were winning the lottery and they did. really well individually on their team. So they put up big numbers and had big. accomplishments. But when you think. about it, Dodge was the ultimate. professional. He took a back seat and he. played a role in which because he had. such a high IQ and he was such a. professional as an individual, his. approach to everything is what made that. work. When you look in Boston, okay, you. could say Ray Allen and and Kevin.

Garnett and Paul Pierce was a a big. three. Again, thinking about names, but. but but the way that offense was ran, Rondo's capability during that time, it. was a lot different. When you seen. people go for that, it never really. worked. And I've had this conversation. with several different, you know, owners. of teams and and having this debate. whether you go big three, whether you. not go big three. I like a big two and.

depth is what I like. You know, that. seems to be a winning pedigree. Need. people to buy in. You know, we talk. about that Olympic team and it's like. you got all these superstars that are. just doing their role, doing their job. Tatum, how many of them played big, you. know, they play they I mean, you look at. the the effort that Deon Booker made. He. starred in a row on that team, but but. on that team coming in there, you have. the this approach already to know that. this is what I have to do. It's very. hard to get the guys to do that on a.

team that I'm a max player on, so I. should be this player, right? And then. you have the the people around them and. the and the the comments being made. It's just, you know, it's all about the. mindset and your approach. So, but I. prefer again I don't want to go into. team ownership or run a team, but if if. if I was to do that, my my focus would. be a big two depth, guys with a. professional attitude and approach, guys. that want to star in a row and that are.

selfless um night in and night out and. giving a value and effort on both ends. of the floor, night in and night out. And that normally equates to winning. I've been a part of winning teams for. many years, whether it's through high. school, in the pros, uh been around it. for many years. That equates to winning. for sure. And it also equates to winning. within an environment of of of what you. guys have built as well. Yeah. Everything. I think you get everybody. bought in obviously that is the best for. the entire team. You look at what.

Boston's doing right now, right? That's. Tatum and Brown. And then everybody just. kind of bought in around that. No doubt. And they have selfless picture selfless. Yeah. Uh we know what Holiday brings to. the table. A Derek White. We've seen. what he did, you know, in the Olympic. team and also in Boston. Just a selfless. mentality. Look at Al Horford again. Been in the league for so many years, a. champion. Selfless. And so that is a. winning pedigree. It just is. And then. even if you go back like that's how the. Spurs won so many championships like. they had could have started on any team.

in the NBA. He embraced a role coming. off the bench as a sixman, but he. finished the game and he was. unbelievable. So again, we've seen this. work time and time again. And I. guarantee you that ask any GM, any. winning coach, any winning, you know, owner, they'll tell you the same thing. Well, let's talk about a big two that. there uh is now in Los Angeles, but it. used to look very different. That guy. down in Dallas still has a job. Uh.

they're telling him to his face, he. doesn't deserve it. Mavericks fans, Ty. has a question for you. Yeah, Rich, it. was reported that Nico Harrison is. holding a press conference today with. Dallas media, but no no recording. devices uh are allowed to come in or. anything like that. He kind of just. wants to I guess I don't know set the. stage for before the play uh playin. game. Have you a have you ever heard of. something like this happening before? And then B, like is there anything. really outside of the Mavs winning a. championship that he can do to kind of.

save face or is this thing inevitably. going to kind of crash and burn because. we see what Luca is doing in LA? Look, I. you know I obviously it's it's a tough. spot to be in, but but I I know Nico. many years. I know the person he is. I. know the man he is, the father that he. is. And so I don't question Nico when it. comes to to things. obviously he made a. business decision that they felt was the. right decision for their organization. and you know and they followed through. with it and so at the end of the day um.

that ownership group and that front. office made a decision. I've moved on. from that because obviously I have. Anthony Davis there that that that needs. to really focus and and try to turn. whatever the the the culture or the the. environment is into a positive the best. way he can. obviously can't play replace. the guy that they traded, but he has a. job to do. And so, you know, it's again, this is this is something that we've. never seen before. Um, and everyone. wants to to blame it somewhere or not,

but obviously that's a seat you sit in. that comes with the territory. And so, you you have to take on those things. And I'm sure Nico's Nico is trying to. handle that to the best of his his. ability. Uh, but ultimately, you know, I. think that's going to be a forever. state. Obviously, you know, we've seen. that the game when they went back and. played there and we know how beloved. Luca was there, but you know, decisions. are made and at some point, you know, we. all have to move on and so I know it's. it's it's tough for that environment,

that fan base and and and and so on so. forth. But, you know, I just think if if. you continue to focus there, it's going. to always be this this greatness. And I. think that's unfair to the guys that's. there every day putting in the work, putting in the effort, trying to win. ball games. And. so, you know, I don't know how he how he. how he pleases pleases everyone there. I. don't think you can please everyone in. in in life all the time. And so, when. you make a decision, you have to move.

on. So, in the NFL, we had Hard Knocks. off seasonason and Joe Shane, the. general manager of the Giants, was. like on in AK basically saying, "We. can't we're not paying Saquon Barkley. that amount of money. We need to move on. from Saquon." Yeah. And then Saquon goes. and wins Super Bowl and is player of the. year and breaks a rushing record for a. season with the Philadelphia Eagles in. the division right in front of his face. And it's like this Luca trade with Luca. and LeBron seemingly working out and. playing very well. Nico is gonna have to.

watch that. And you said it's a it's a. gray that gets chatted about and I. understand for you especially. representing players that are on the. Mavericks and how everybody was talking. about how the Mavericks got fleeced here. and everything like that. I couldn't. even imagine the convers you have to. have with Anthony Davis because the way. he's being talked about is if he's not, you know, a former NBA champion and a. top 10, top 15 player in this whole. thing. But boy, if the Lakers go on a. run here and Luca does what he did last. year for the Mavs and take them to the. finals, it is going to be loud for Nico.

forever. And uh I'm happy you know him. because I don't know him. The only thing. I know of him is he made a decision that. everybody that I know around basketball. said, "Oh, this guy's trying to make his. fans hate him. Like this guy is trying. to tank the team." And if he's not. trying to do that, that'd be a tough. thing to have to battle against for the. rest of your career. Good luck, Nico. Good luck. Good luck. No recorder in this. conversation. Nico just wants to. introduce himself and maybe to the. reporters and keep it moving going. forward. This guy accomplished.

businessman with Nike. Uh now he's. running the Dallas Mavericks. Uh new. ownership obviously. They got Clay down. there. They got AD down there. They. obviously have a squad that you know. maybe is able to turn around and maybe. the story is different next year. But. this year, well they they listen, they. haven't been healthy. I think as a. healthy team, but they moved on from. Luca because they didn't think he could. play, right? Didn't they say this guy's. too fat, too slob, not good enough to. play? And then their team's not healthy. And listen, again, I'm I can't I can't I. can't, you know, mask whatever decision.

that was made. That's not that's not my. job. What I will say is they're not. healthy. So, whenever they're able to be. whole, it's not one versus the other. It's whatever they felt like the team. would be better positioned for going. forward. Now, you know, as long as these. guys do well on this other end in terms. of where Lucas now at and obviously, yeah, that's that's going to sting, that's always happens, you know, we call. it after cards. And so, same way with.

Saquon. If Saquon does not win a Super. Bowl or whatever the case may be, then. you you know, the sting is probably a. little bit less. But the fact that he. did win, yeah, it's going to sting. And. that's that's that's the thing. That's. the price that you pay when you make. those type of decisions. That's the risk. that you that you take when you make. those type of decisions. But look, we're. all we're all we've all been in. situations where we have to make big boy. business decisions. And when you make. those decisions, you have to live with. the consequences of those decisions.

That's just comes with the territory. when you are a decision maker. And so, yeah, we'll see. We'll see. But again, Nico is somebody who's who's a who's a. dear friend to me and someone that that. that that I support and and and love as. a friend and I know his family. I've. been around him for 20 plus years and um. you know, he made a business decision. and so he he has to he has to move. forward with what he think was right. And obviously Luca's in a different. place now and the Lakers have a big. matchup with the Timberwolves and and.

they have some some things they have to. correct. Uh they don't have a perfect. roster. They don't have a perfect team. It's going to take a valiant effort for. them on both ends of the floor. Uh they. have to take better care of the ball and. things of that nature and and better. care, you know, different shot selection. and really dig in. This Timberwolves. team is not going to be easy to beat. They're not going to be easy to beat. Um. and you know, I know it's three versus. six, but I think it's actually closer to. that. So, um we'll see. In the Western. Conference, two through eight are like.

four games apart in win loss. So, you're. talking about a lot of parody over. there. Every matchup is going to be high. stakes, high risk, high reward. Cannot. wait to watch it. We appreciate the hell. out of you, Rich. Good luck the rest of. the day and we'll talk to you soon. No, I appreciate you guys. Thank you. Hello. It's Rich. All right. He's gone. Yep. Yeah. Say, I'm not doing this. I'm. not doing this. No thanks. Don't Don't. you patronize me. Don't you do that. Every time I FaceTime him, I get some.

sort of Hello. Yeah. How would you not goat? We're. talking goats around here. I mean, he's. surrounded by goats. Him saying Nico's a. dear friend. Okay. I've known him for 25. years. He made a decision. He made a. business decision. And then him repping. AD and then AD finding out at what 1:00. a.m. or whatever. Allegedly, there was. group text messages. Everybody thought. it was fake. They thought it was a uh. Sentel. They thought it was NBA Sentel. They thought Shams got hacked. I mean, seemingly shocked the entire system of. the NBA. Now, Luca and LeBron can go on.

a run. Luca crying as they were showing. And uh by the way, you can tell the. digital team had a lot of love for Luca. Yeah, they were big fans. You can tell. the video team was like not happy that. this took place with the amount of. effort they put in that video behind the. scenes laughing everything about him. And uh he started crying up and they. dropped 40 on him. Had to had to do it. It felt like Lucas said to him. Yeah. And then the other big story with that. game was uh during the uh you know. opening tip, guess who didn't shake. hands? LeBron and AD. After the game,

guess who stuck around and shook the. hand of every single Lakers player. except for LeBron James, Anthony Davis. So, I don't know. I don't know. I didn't. want to put Rich, but looks like two of. his uh, you know, big- time players. don't like each other anymore. Uhoh. Uhoh. I would certainly ask Rich Ball. about that going forward. LJ, I believe. um is how he referred to LeBron. This is. like when uh you know, The Rock, Mr. Johnson, Dewey, DJ, Dwayne. Mhm. Mhm.

Don't know the proper title. Hi, Chief. Funnel Balls. Mhm. Bingo. That one. All. right, we'll be back on the other side. with Peter Shreger. Peter friend, tell. the friend something nice. All roads leading to Eugene. And I can't. help but say, "Hey, [Music]. hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey. You make me want to jump. Put my hands.

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how sports lead the way for the rest of. the world, which is why we're incredibly. proud to be a part of the sports world. April 15th, 1947, Jackie Robinson breaks. the color barrier in sports. That's why. we're celebrating today. Oh yeah. July. 26th, 1948. A year and a few months. later, Harry Truman issued the executive. order 9981, which abolished military. discrimination. Then in May 17th, 1954, Brown vers the board of education,

racial segregation in public schools. deemed unconstitutional. Jackie Robinson. is credited with leading the way for all. of it. From 1949 through 1962, 11 of the. 14 NL MVPs were black. Jackie Robinson, Roy Companella, Willie Mays, Roy. Companella, Don Nukem, Hank Aaron, Ernie. Banks, Frank Robinson, my Wills. Most W. from 1947 to 1956. What is W? That is. wins above replacement. Stan Musel 75.6.

Ted Williams 61.5. Jackie Robinson 61.4. That spanned Robinson's entire career. A. lot of people talk about him changing. the game, changing the world. He was. also brilliant as a baseball player. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. was quoted as. saying, "Jackie Robinson made my success. possible. Without him, I would never. have been able to do what I did." Shout. to sports. Shout out to Jackie Robinson. on this April 15th, 2025. And also,

shout to you getting your taxes done. Yeah. Yep. Mhm. They'll get you. Yes, they will. Yes, they will. Shout out to. Jackie. What a dog. Jackie talks here at Boss Conor and at. Ty Schmidt. One half of the hammer. Don. Cowboys AP Tone is here. Nine-year NFL. vet, host of everything DB. Good D bad. D. Darius J. But. Berser debut baseball's a thing. The NHL. is happening and the NBA starts its. playoffs with their playing games this. evening. The Masters just had 19 million.

people watch over the weekend and the. draft is next weekend. Wrestlemania is a. few days away. Feels like it is a. magical time for sport. Darius Butler. Rich just said it. This is the perfect. time for sports. Obviously, it's Mania. season. We just had Raw last night which. was incredible. By the way, great job. out there with Cole. But, uh, thank you, Sacramento. Long flight. And we talk. about the playoffs like I I a couple. years ago got into hockey playoffs. It's. hard for me to say it's the best because. I am a football guy through and through,

but it's right there. Hockey playoffs, baseball's in full swing now. And NBA. playoffs, this is when it it really. really matters. And we talk about golf, the golf world when the best are playing. against each other. that's when it's the. best. But, uh, playin starts tonight. NBA playoff starts tonight. And, uh, once we have the playin done after these. next few days, then we have all the. matchups on both sides, should be a. great time for basketball. Speaking of. basketball, AD and LeBron did shake. hands. Yeah, we knew comment [ __ ] Yeah, you're just making up life. Look at. this. Look, they got their whole. handshake. Whole handshake in. Yeah, the.

internet. saying, LeBron had their full handshake. in. and they knew it was going to be. emotional. It was Luca's night, you. know. It's not about that. It was Lucas. night is what they were doing. Joining. us now, ladies and gentlemen, live from. Anatican, Ohio. He's a college football. national champion, a college football uh. legend and icon, a Super Bowl champion, a father of 10, ladies and gentlemen, AJ. Hawk.

Hawker, how you doing, pal? Thank you. for traveling out here yesterday. What a. wonderful time in sport. Oh, what a. beautiful time. But you did forget uh I. believe F1 Saudi Arabia is this weekend. as well. So that might be top thing for. people to especially guys like Darius I. want to see. AJ, thank you. Thank you. I. appreciate that. Coming off the Bahrain. Grand Prix in Japan. The what? In. Bahrain. Okay. It's a country. Jesus. No, but they were just in Japan. They. were. It was before. I'm glad I'm glad. the program is dialed in. Where is Bay. Ring? Uh who won?

Sorry. She doesn't know. Hey, we just. talked about every mania. I mean, big. night out still on my mind. The gimmick. was a lot going on. I believe. Lozo I think George Russell came in. second. George Russell, huh? Yeah, the. singer and then George Michael third. Good race though. Good race. Sounds like. it. Where in the world is that good? Oh. no. Pastry won. That's what I said.

Pastry led those teammates. Ptorius is. racing cars now. Poor little Tink Tank. is out there in the airport. Yeah, every. team has scored points. Just Hey, got. this guy coming out to this race. You. got to check in over here. Walked walked. in with the pedals on his free. That's. the gas and the brake pedal already. Pat Williams had no idea. No idea at the. time what that was going to become. They. got this man.

That was cheating paper. Yeah. Okay. I'm. happy that we all understand that now. And it's like we're allowed to say that. I wanted to say at the time and I did. say it at the time and I was considered. a bad guy. Like you you don't want this. guy to be able to compete with everybody. else. Why? Cuz you know, it's like was. calf ever cramp? Will there ever be any. that feels like an advantage? You could. just tighten those things up. You know, guys get tired as the meets go on. He. was getting fresher somehow. He was. getting more bounce in per the ants than.

everybody else. And then obviously Cat. Williams thought the same exact thing. He say what we got this guy and then he. you know what happened happened. Good. bit. That was unbelievable. Cat there. was a time there where Cat was released. in an hour every single year. It was the. pimp chronicles. He's still bringing it. in interviews. Yeah, he's still bringing. it. Yeah, Cat Williams always going to. bring it. It does feel like uh poor. little Tang Tank. He's racing F1. Take. Pink's out. He's out of jail. Past. Pastry. No way. Mr. Mr. I believe he's.

out. I believe I saw somebody's got a. He's got a girlfriend. I think he picked. the lock with us. Uhoh. All right. Oh, he escaped. What's your problem? Prison break. How does that work? And. there's no way they let him have metal. in there, right? No, no, no, no. He's. some sort of car. Slide around. What? He has to. He doesn't have a. choice. Those things are weapons. You. can't have those in there. Are you. kidding me, dude? wooden planks maybe. Well, I don't know. I don't even know if. they let him do that.

Rest in peace obviously to his uh. girlfriend, I believe, fiance. That. whole thing. Mhm. What a wild scene down. there. Um, okay. Joining us now, ladies. and gentlemen, is a man who has more. inside information than all. I mean, the thought of whenever he was running, they were This guy was the hero. Oh, yeah. Remember, he was like the story of. the entire thing. How did he get around? How did he get her out in prison? I. can't stop thinking about it. No. Well, they could take him away. They couldn't.

They had to. They couldn't. Maybe he's a. solid state. They just didn't give him. his running legs. He got like his. walking slow legs. The blades were for. for races. I remember when they told us. how bad of people we were, you know, if. we didn't agree with what was, you know, like, hey, this guy's a hero. This is uh. you need to be uh on board with this. entire thing. It's like I am I'm. thankful that this guy is powering. through something. But this does feel. like this is a little bit uh maybe. something. And then you said that you. were you were out there first early. Yeah. Early. I was just I was just. thinking to myself like if somebody came.

into the NFL and just had one leg to. kick that was, you know, I would not be I would think, well, that seems to be unfair in carbon. fiber leg, but then me acting like. that's unfair through the life that. they've had to, you know, like. So then. you you have to take all different all. different angles. And I understand that. now at this age, but I uh I thought to. myself, wow, that was wild. And then Cat. just kind of beautifully illustrated. what his life was like every single. before the race even started what they. were doing. Um that really opened my.

eyes a little bit more. But yeah, I was. attacked a little bit. Oh, there's no. sign up at all. By the way, he was. transferred to a jail uh for disabled. prisoners. Okay. Still locked up. Okay. I don't know if he's I'm just I No, he's. out. He's out. But that still doesn't. really expl So did he have wheelchair? There was moving walkways and stuff. Sounds like a very. uh high-tech jail. Yeah, from what it. sounds like. Uh I was on a run there. watching all the jailed ducks all of. them abroad. That was scary. That.

that'll really make you act right. The. black dolphin over there in Russia is. really a problematic. Play no games. over. You do not want to go over there. That's why whenever everything happened. with uh Grinder, I mean it was like so. so scary. It's like I don't know if. their jails play by the same rule as as. our jails. And then there was one in. like Iceland where uh uh Iceland or. Greenland I watched where they were just. kind of leaving for the day. See you. tonight. I saw the same one. Yeah, I saw. that. What? They're in jail. Yeah. All. right. I'm go downtown here and trying. to do a lap. I'll be back 8:00 p.m.

Yeah, I'll sleep in here tonight. I. guess they came back. I'm just come on. back. Yeah, that was basically just kind. of a bad deal. Checking in, checking out. every single day. Go down shelter. I got. to go to work. I'm going to go make. society. Okay. I'm going to go down then. I'll come back. Yeah. Just checking back. in. That was Greenland. Wow. And. obviously we've been learning about a. lot of jails now with the international. stuff. There's some places you don't. want to be. Yeah. There are some places. you don't want to be. Bolivia, obviously. any jail is not a place that you want to. go to. As a man that was in one for. about 12 hours or so. Solitary. confinement is a real deal, bro. It's a. hard time. Nobody talks about it. Toilet.

was broke. Spent like [ __ ] It was my. fault for sure. When I was thinking. about escape, I was like, how could I. Andy the rain out of this thing in 12. hours? I couldn't imagine being in there. full time. Hope everybody learns their. lesson. That's. right. jail. Hope he's still locked. Speaking of jail, people are saying JD. Vance deserves to get to jail for what. he did at national championship. AJ, what the what happened? Okay, they need. to design this national championship. trophy much better. Why does the top. glue that sucker? I got some super glue. I'll put some super glue there. No,

don't watch. It's a two-part trophy. You. got to let people know it's a two-part. trophy. You watch bar, you know. Well, I. I think I think we know because that. thing's been standing right in front of. us a few times escalator. No. Yeah. People hoist trophies above their head. He had no idea it came with a a nice. stand. Sure. It's a It's a good stand. sheath. I'll tell you what, I seen this. because JD Vance Ohio guy, you know, that's a big part of the story. So, Ohio. State coming to the White House to. celebrate national championship. What. number is uh Trump wearing, AJ? 47. He's the 47th president. What number.

were you? I actually wore that same. number about 20 years ago at Ohio State. What is your birthday? My birthday? Why? Why is that relevant? Just just tell me what your birthday is. after season. January January 6th is uh. the date I was. Okay. Okay. So, your. jersey was given to President Trump. January 6th is your birthday. Really. feels like they're trying to make AJ. Hawk as happy as he possibly could. When. you saw this with uh JD Vance and the. boys, what was your first thought? Well, I actually had multiple people from.

around here that sent this to me with. the 47 jersey thinking, "Oh, it looks. like yours, bud." Yeah, that might be a. a throwback that someone might make and. try to wear around now. I guess with. Trump on the back, I wonder if he'll ask. you for your autograph. And I wonder if. JD Vancers had to, you know, say. anything about learning about the trophy. being a two-parter, two-piece. I didn't. think that was good omen for the next. Ohio State Buckeyes. I didn't think that. was a good omen personally. Uh I did see. that there was a lot of conversation on. the internet. Once again, these are. things that we do not create, but do. happen on the internet. We are just.

observing and reporting things that are. taking place on the internet. Ryan Day. does not dye his beard. That's a big. piece of information. That's [ __ ]. Yeah, definitely. 100% [ __ ] Not. true. That's cap. And directly from the. day family said, "Nope, this is how it. is." His wife came from Nina. I I don't. want to speak ill against Nina. Oh, Nina. said it. Yep. She did. She said, "I'm. with him every day." And then the. general Bob Carpenter came out and said, "I see Ryan Day every single day. It is. dark every single day. The guy has a. great beard. They have a great team. They obviously have a lot of NIL money.

And they have a trophy that's been. dropped at the White House. I don't. think that has happened ever before. Maybe it's a good omen. Maybe this. team's unique. Maybe that leads to them. going back to back in college football. playoffs. Yeah, the general part I don't. know because if Nina Day told the. general to eat poop, he'd do it. So, let's not act as though I think Bobby. Carpenter would eat poop. If it was to. lock in another national championship. without a doubt, I guess, right? Yeah. So, you're telling me I eat this poop.

national championship again? 10 win. season. Okay. Ah, [ __ ]. As long as we beat Michigan, brother, you be drinking. So, I don't know about. that. But one of the sweet parts of that. video is looking at Jack Sawyer once u. you know JD Vance does drop that trophy. He looks over at at uh President Trump. and he says like, "Oh man, AJ Hawk would. love this." As soon as it happens, he. looks over to say something. So, pretty. awesome for the Buckeye. I saw Jack. Sawyer got a shout out during the. speech. What a name. Name of a legend.

Jack Sawyer threw it all and they. recalled the play. The strip fumble, strip sack, touchdown. Jack Sawyer sends. Ohio State to the national championship. Obviously, the national champions go to. the White House. They celebrated. yesterday. JD Vance gets his ANI trophy. once again. Need needs to figure that. whole thing out. Swinging a photo guy. He's probably so jacked up about Oh, I owe. They're going to get back to him. Obviously, I owe you a new trophy is. what JD V. and uh it looked like it was.

a nice gathering. I'm happy to hear. that. Football and sports are a. wonderful thing. Joining us now is a man. who has joined ESPN. It has been nothing. short of spectacular on linear. television at the worldwide leader. Friend of the program, former Emmy. winner for Good Morning Football. Ladies. and gentlemen, Peter Shreger. Y. How are you, Shanks? I have so many. thoughts. We can start with the Blade. Runner or we can go to uh Remember that? That's what they called him. Um, and. then uh I have a quick Jack Sawyer.

story. I'm at the combine and I didn't. go to any of the college football games. I watched him play obviously and I'm on. the field with Shawn Payeyton who said. he had never been on the field during. combine drills, but I was interviewing. him for the NFL Network's coverage of. the combine. Mid defensive drills, mid. drills, Jack Sawyer comes over with the. firmst handshake you've ever seen. Mr. Payton, Jack Sawyer, linebacker, Ohio. State, good to meet you. I said, okay, I. want to draft this guy. What a move. What a move. I'm like, "This kid's. unbelievable." He's a dog, too. Shrekes.

He was heralded as the next one, right? Whenever he went to Ohio State, AJ, if I. have this right. Yeah. Columbus kid from. the area. Yeah. He he came in as the man. for sure. And then obviously this. playable cements Ohio State heading to. the national championship right in front. of our face. The speed, the wheels, the. awareness, the heartbreak for Steve. Sarkeesian in the Texas Longhorns. Smart. play by Jack to go shake Shawn Payton's. uh hand, look him right in the eye, and. introduce himself. Let's talk Let's talk. about this time of year. Shrekes. Feels.

like there's more question marks in this. draft than ever that we have covered. Now, obviously, you've been around the. game a lot longer than us. Is that an. accurate assessment? I feel like nobody. knows what the hell is happening. And. then this Derek Carr news gets dropped. on us within the last few days and adds. a whole another wrinkle. Are we looking. at it the same way as you, Peter? Makes. it a really interesting draft. I. wouldn't say it's it's rich with first. uh you know top tier blue chip. prospects, but that makes it all the. more uh you know I guess interesting. when we get to Thursday. I I I got to.

tell you like we're talking Shadore. Sanders all day on this network. I don't. know where Shadore Sanders goes. I don't. have a certain team raising their hand. saying, "Hey, if Shadore Falls, like. that's our place and that's a prospect. that we're talking about constantly.". You go name by name and really there's. only two blue chip prospects across the. board when I talk to these GMs and. that's Abdul Carter and Travis Hunter. and then Ashton Genty is one of those. guys but you wouldn't tra you wouldn't. draft him likely in the top three. Other. than that it's wide open and I had a GM.

tell me you know who we who Jacksonville. takes at five you could easily see you. know at 17 or 18 after you get out of. those top three. It's not that it's a. drop off. It's that it kind of plateaus. and it's well what do you need? What do. you want? Who did you like? Which makes. the draft all the more interesting. Last. year we knew they were quarterback. hungry teams. You kind of match with who. might go where and I knew the top three. was set, you know, nine days out. We're. now nine days out. Outside of thinking.

it goes Ward, Carter, Hunter, and some. combo in the top three. Pat, I can tell. you with great confidence that I am not. alone. Nobody knows where it goes from. there. And really what's so interesting. is that after the one quarterback, Cam. Ward, you've got a wideopen list of. possibilities as to the teams that are. drafting quarterbacks, where they're. drafting quarterbacks, and on what day. they're going to end up getting a. quarterback. How many of those. quarterbacks are in the conversation? Because Shadore was considered the.

clear-cut number two quarterback in this. draft class be behind Cam Ward. Then. Jackson Dart's name seemingly gathered a. lot of steam. Now Jaylen Milro allegedly. has a private workout with the New York. Giants this week as well. I'm a fan. because I watched him in a playoff run. even though he had a bad combine of Will. Howard. There's a lot of different. potential outcomes for a lot of these. different quarterbacks. Are you saying. that the teams are viewing it the same. way? Is there a set list on who's above. where or it's kind of scattered across.

the board? unlike any other year. It's. wide open. And I think the Kenny Picket. year is is unfair to these guys because. I think this is a better class than. that. And that was Kenny Picket and. Malik Willis and and uh and uh what was. his name from Cincinnati? Uh. Ritter, that was that draft class and. those guys kind of fizzled out. This. year's draft class, like I spoke to a GM. who I really trust and is really good. and he's like, "Well, if you're looking. for the best pure thrower of the ball, it's Tyler Shuck out of Louisville." And. I'm like, "Tyler Shuck?" And I'm looking. at my list and I'm like, "Okay." And I'm.

looking at this list here on your board. and there are several other names and. Tyler Shuck's not one of them. Another. GM I was talking to over the weekend as. I'm watching the Masters and just. texting everybody and on calls about the. draft and he's like I could easily see. Milro going late first. He's like that's. the kind of deal where you have a. starter already and then you put Milro. in for some subset packages and then. two, three years, who knows? Jaylen. Milro is your guy and he's been learning. for a year and of course he can run the. ball. I ran a 4340 at his proday and. he's got a he's got an awesome arm and.

he's a winner and he's about it like he. is a great great leader. The same. conversation on Milro is well he was. benched against South Florida a year. ago. You know it's this is where you're. at. So I don't think it's a sure thing. that Shadore is the second quarterback. taken. I would imagine that's what's. going to happen. I would assume that's. going to happen. I don't see Jackson. Dart or Shook or Milro going before. Shadore, but anything can happen with. this class and we could look at two. quarterbacks taking in the first round.

We could look at four quarterbacks going. in the first round. And that's not me. pleading the fifth and being like, I. don't want anything on my hands. I am. just telling you that is what's being. discussed with teams. But different than. other years, they're not banging down my. door to be like, what are you hearing? Like, could I do we need to do something. to get Shadore? It's not like anyone's. doing flips over any of these other. guys. Greatest mock drafter in the. history of mock drafting. We're talking. to Peter Shreger. Obviously has F. Yep. Tip of the cap to you as well, sir. I. don't have a hat on, but I would if I. could. Has inside conversations with.

every team. That's why his mock draft is. so spectacular. Sounds like question. marks and chaos everywhere next Thursday. night. Go ahead, AJ. Shreggs. Yeah, we're all going to be watching to see. what happens with Shur. Have you heard. is there any kind of like basement of. where like, hey, if he gets to this. point, someone's definitely going to. take him. Is there a number? We've seen. that if the Steelers would find him at. 21, they would take him. Like, do you. have any idea on what the the basement. for him could be of where he could go? No. And here's the thing, he had a. really good meeting with Pittsburgh last. week and that lasted like 5 hours and he.

met with Arthur Smith, he met with Mike. Tomlin, he went around the facility. So, like that to me seems like a good backs. stop like at worst comes to worse for. like 21 would be a really nice place for. him to go. It would be a really good. situation considering the weapons, the. organization, the culture, the city of. course that you guys know so well. But. you know, the Giants are going to this. private workout and Chef broke that news. last night that this is not just window. dressing. Here's the deal. The Giants. had 13 different people at his proday.

So if you had a, you know, it wasn't. just two of them, 13. Um, they had him. in for a top 30 visit. Then they took. him out to dinner. Joe Shane himself. went to multiple Shador Sanders games. this year. Joe Shane went to a Shador. Sanders practice at Colorado. So, this. isn't a player they're unfamiliar with. So, when you tell me they're going for. another private workout, it's more than. just due diligence. This is we are going. to make sure if he is our quarterback,

we are 100% certain that this is the guy. we love. But that doesn't mean he's. going three to the Giants. What that. could mean is the Giants get Abdul. Carter out of Penn State number three. And then if Shador starts slipping out. of the top 10, out of the teens, maybe. that's when they pull the trigger and. they say, "You know what? We really feel. comfortable with this guy as our. quarterback. We might not want him at. three, but we like him at 15, 16, 17 in. that range." Okay, very fascinating on. the quarterback conversation. Shador. obviously going to be chatted about. because of his family, because of.

everything he was able to accomplish at. two different schools, but a lot of. tension to two different schools. Now. he's getting his jersey retired at. Colorado. Everybody's real pumped up. about it on the internet. Sounds like. everybody's excited for him. I will say. congrats. Anytime we get your jersey. retire, that means something magical had. to have happened. And he sold that. building out alongside another guy that. those Giants people might have been. watching at all those games and. practices. Go ahead, Dud. Yes. His. teammate, Travis Hunter, obviously the. Heisman winner. Um, what are you hearing.

about the people you talk to in the know. what position he will primarily play. once he gets to the NFL? I know I've. heard him say he still wants to play. both ways, but what are you hearing as. far as once he gets drafted, what. position he'll primarily line up at? There's a difference in opinion. I spoke. to one team. He said, "I put him at wide. receiver. He's the number one wide. receiver in this draft and he's got. unlimited potential and he is so raw at. the position. But they say that this. guy, he's just scratching the surface. like his route running is not as precise. as someone who's been doing it his whole. life. And if you were to put him on the.

board with like Malik Neighbors and. Marvin Harrison last year and Roma. Dunay, you wouldn't even put him in the. same conversation because he's so raw. But you put him with a good wide. receivers's coach. The instincts, the. size, the hands, he could do it. And. then you go over the defensive side of. it and he is by far bar none the best. defensive back in this draft. However, can you at number two justify I'm going. to put him on the field at both. positions? I'm going to have him as our. number one or two wide receiver and then. also have him play defensive back. You.

can if you draft him second overall. This guy played 120 snaps a game last. year. I mean, insane stuff. I worked. with Charles Woodson for years at Fox. Woodson was the last Heisman Trophy. winner who did it from a defensive. position. Charles Woodson was considered. this two-way player, the special teams. demon. Charles was like, "I I played I. played 30 snaps, you know, the season.". Like, it wasn't the same thing. This. guy's doing stuff that is unprecedented. The last time we had a true two-way. player at those positions was Roy Green.

in the 1981 St. Louis Cardinals. Oh, he. was a dog. He was a dog, but he came in. and played that after years of safety. move to wide receiver. We've never had a. prospect coming out. So, I honestly feel. that there is a chance that he in week. one of the NFL season can play both. defensive back and be your number one. corner and be your number one or wide. number two wide receiver. And that is a. legitimate possibility. That is how. spectacular and rare this prospect is. Oh, and by the way, great freaking kid. Everyone says they meet him. He's about.

the right stuff. He is everything you. want to prospect. Home run. Okay, so we. heard originally, I think it was Sher. said that the Browns are taking a. quarterback at number two. Browns are. taking a quarterback at number two. That. was like a month ago, two months ago, whatever it was before all the draft. cycle kind of takes place, before all. the meetings and everything. Now it's. almost like if Travis Hunter's available. and your team doesn't take him, you're. an idiot. Is that kind of the view in. Cleveland? And then if if that is the. case, Flaco's his quarterback in. Cleveland or Travis Hunter or does that. lead to the Kirk Cousins move that.

everybody kind of is assuming is going. to take place from Atlanta to Cleveland? Well, let's put Travis Hunter in. Cleveland. Now, if we were to pencil. them in and you say, "Oh, Joe Flacco,". and I, you know, we we could have our. thoughts about Flaco. What? I love Joe. Flacco. He did not work in Indianapolis, but I love Joe Flacco. I have his cleats. here. I have Joe Flacco's cleats here. They move. They move with it. Rock with. it. Lean with it with the grass. Okay. Flaco. Flaco wasn't great with the.

Colts, but with the not great with the. Colts. Guess what? He wasn't He wasn't. good with the Jets. He wasn't good with. the Broncos. The one place he was great. with the Browns took him to the. playoffs. He was great. He was great. with the Browns and he was great with. Stfansky. And if you tell me that you. have Flaco throwing the ball 40 times a. game deep and he's thrown it to Travis. Hunter, Jerry Judy and David and Jooku, you could compete. You could play. That. said, you're not tied to Flaco. you're. not tied to pick it and that you could.

take Hunter at two and you could trade. back into the first round with this. draft. I'm telling you, there are not. these home run plays like I will not. move out of 11 or I will not move out of. 12. It's not like that this year. There. is a a lot of parody when you're talking. about after prospect four to prospect 30. and you could justify any of them. So, if you need a quarterback and you really. like Shador Sanders and you're. Cleveland, you could probably get both. of them. You could do what Houston did. and not have to give up the farm to do. it, but you could take your number one.

defensive player and your number one. offensive player and you can get both of. them in this draft. I think back to the. Lamar Jackson draft. It's it's almost. ancient history now, but they took. Hayden Hurst with a pick 22nd overall. They took a tight end and then Dcasta. moved up and then they went up and they. got Lamar at 32nd because they saw a. window to go get this guy. That could be. Cleveland where they're like, "We have. our quarterback. We could compete with. Flaco or pick it. We could compete. We. could get we could we could I don't know. if they're going to win anything. They. could put a football team on the field.

If you want to worry about quarterback. and you're you don't have to take one at. two. And I think where Adam was in the. beginning of the month was like they're. going to probably get a rookie. quarterback at some point. Since then. things have changed. Joe Flacco was. signed and also I think the quarterback. class is not viewed as one of those. where you need to take the guy at two. Okay. On that note, when you're talking. about moving back in with a couple. different teams, Ty has a question for. you. Yeah. In terms of trades as a. whole, Shrags, what are you hearing? Like h how active do you think we're. going to be? Field Yates and Mel Kyper. in their most recent mock draft. Had the.

Browns trading back up to 29 to get. Jackson Dart. We heard Dan Morgan say. today like, "Hey, listen. We're open for. business. We're we're, you know, listening to calls if anyone wants to. come up." And then in uh again in field. and and Mel's, you know, mock draft, they've had a bunch of different other. trades mocked. Uh, do you think that's. just like, you know, for the fun of it. or are you expecting there to be quite a. bit of action on draft night? When we. were in Vegas that year for the draft, I. think there was like 15 trades in the.

first round. I asked a head coach, I. said, what are you hearing? Do you think. it's going to be one of those? And he. said, this is the stick and pick draft. I go, okay, well, that's not as. exciting. He's like, I just I don't see. the prospects where people are going to. be jockeying in the first round to go up. and get players. The quarterback. position makes it interesting. So, there. are those sweet spots, right? New. Orleans. Obviously, if Derek Carr is not. going to be there, there is a need at. quarterback. Unless you're gonna just. roll out Rattler and say, "We'll we'll. we'll we'll roll the dice and then maybe. get Arch Manning next year," which who. knows could be a possibility. But nine.

seems like a spot, a pressure point for. that. And of course, the Steelers or the. Giants or the Browns could be teams that. are maneuvering to move up and make that. pick. I I look across this list of. logos, though, and like I don't see the. Raiders taking a quarterback. They they. signed Gino to an extension. It's like. they they they're not draft they're not. picking him to only have him there for. one year. And you go across the board. seems like everyone's pretty much spoken. for. So Steelers, Browns, Saints, and I. would put in the I I would I would. probably say the Jets are a possibility.

to get back in the first round if. they're desperate to get a quarterback. or they want to have one in addition to. Justin Fields. That's kind of what. you're looking at. And and to me, there's not enough burning hot desire to. move up to get one of these quarterbacks. where we're going to see a ton of. jockeying to do so. Okay. You mentioned. a team there, the Raiders. One player. has been mocked to that team basically. since the beginning. He will be joining. us here in a matter of a few moments. Uh. Connor has a question for you. Yes. You. said Ashen Jens is one of the three, you.

know, blue chip players. Do you see him. going then, you know, to the Raiders at. six? Do you see him dropping at all or. do you think he is one of those guys. that you can kind of bank on going in. that top 10, you know, top seven area. just because of how nasty he is? I would. start with five at Jacksonville and I. would say Liam Cohen comes in here and. Liam Cohen is an offensive guy and they. and they have that four with the. Patriots could be a possibility, you. know, especially if Josh wants to get. the offense going like it could go that.

high. And then you just look at the. classic argument of do you want your. defensive tackle of the future? Do you. want your offensive line of the future? Or do you want this stud running back? It's an age-old debate. Where do you. draft the running back? When do you. draft the running back? I'll tell you. this, the last two running backs to go. in in those early picks were Ash or. Behinson and Jir Gibbs. I think those. guys worked out pretty well. But on the. flip side, and you look at it, you know, Bucky Irving led the all rookies in. rushing last year. It was a fourth round. pick. Tyrone Tracy led all all was.

second in rushing. He was a fourth round. pick. So, it it's a it's a question of. appetite, but this guy is special. He's. everything anyone could have wanted in a. running back. It's just the fit and. whether or not that team needs to add a. running back and wants to add a running. back over other positions. You talk. about the rookie running backs doing. well. I'll just tell you Saquon Barkley. was the top pick and uh he did a-okay. with the Philadelphia Eagles. And is the. run game becoming much more prevalent. because of what the Eagles did? I would. say yes. Excited to see what Gent is. able to do. excited to chat with him. here in a few moments. Last question for.

you, Shregs, here from AP Tone. Yeah, Shregs, I want to talk to you about the. big news this morning on Jaylen Ramsey. Chris Greer just said that the team, you. know, confirmed that they decided to. part ways. Ramsay did not request a. trade, but the decision was made in the. best interests of all parties. Um, and. then on top of that, they asked him if. uh if Tyreek Hill could also be traded, and he said, "That is not anything we're. pursuing. Who knows? if someone wants to. come and give me two first round picks, we'll consider it. So, I'll just let you. uh I'll just let you comment on what's.

going on down in Miami. You know, a few. offseasons ago, we were talking about. the Dolphins as a Super Bowl contender. and a team that right there away from. the chip, and now it seems like that. same group that they brought in, a lot. of those veterans, Tyreek and Jaylen. Ramsay and, you know, Chub and all these. guys, it's like, all right, well, we we. missed that window. Maybe um Jaylen. Ramsey is still due $21 million from. whatever team ends up trading for him. because the Dolphins paid him his $4. million guarantee. Like that's a big. price tag for a guy who is very. accomplished but is also, you know,

probably on the the latter nine holes of. his career, I would imagine. So. fascinating to see what the market is. for a Jaylen Ramsay and what team is. willing to pay him that money because I. would imagine they'd want to restructure. that deal. Who do you think he ends up. with, buddy? Oh, I don't have a team. yet. And that's the thing. It's like. these veteran guys are, hey, I'm looking. to, you know, view a trade and these. teams dangle these names out there. I. watch Cooper Cup uh, you know, be. dangled and then not be traded and end.

up going to Seattle as a free agent. Like these things happen in the league. and veteran players like Ramsay, they. deserve better. But this is how it goes. sometimes. And uh you know, you turn. that corner at 30 and all of a sudden. you think everyone views you in one way. or we do view you in one way and then. that number comes around comes creeping. in and suddenly you feel like oh my gosh. it's pretty humbling and it could be uh. it could be a bitter pill sometimes. Well, I'll tell you what, if he wants to. come to the Colts, we'll we'll certainly. have he still could play. Yeah, absolutely. And can I can I say. something real quick? Um, yesterday I'm.

watching on my phone all these these. very these very esteemed famous women go. to space and I'm thinking to myself. laughing, can your crew go to space? No. No thanks. Can we get this group to. space? Yeah, those ladies those ladies have a. lot more courage than we do, Bob. I will. tell you that. No. What are you talking about? I need. to see that thing. We can pretend like. we 100 150 times. I need to see success. on a regular basis. That's why the. courage it takes to sign up for that. I.

think next level. I I don't know if we. have it. Shanks, you would go. It sounds. like. No. Hell no. I can't. I mean, my. feet I don't I don't skydive. I don't go. on roller coasters. I am a complete you. know what when it comes to that stuff. But you guys seem like you do anything. I don't know what you're talking about. Those couple words started in my head. Who what group of what was the group. that went yesterday? Uh women. Katy Perry. Kat Bezos wife. Uh Lauren Sanchez is her. name. She she led the group. You know, a.

lot of women were not happy. You saw. Emrat my I love Emily Ratikowski. Um she. came out. She was not happy. I did not. know who you were talking. But I do know. Emily Ratikowski. The name it wasn't. good for the environment. I mean, did. you guys see watch the video of the. spaceship going up into space? Cuz it. didn't look real to me. Okay. All right. Not getting into that. I'm just saying. we appreciate you so much, Frank. Thanks. for bringing it up. Yeah. Thank you. We. really appreciate you doing that. Ladies. and gentlemen, Peter Shanks. Thanks,

Shanks. What's his problem? No, I'm sure. knew exactly what he was doing. I'm with. him on that one. I saw the video as. well. Boy, it looked I saw Katie. floating, I thought, on a video. I was. on a plane for a long day yesterday. Yeah, we can't CGI that. Okay, we're not. doing this with everything. Congrats to. them going to space. Maybe. I didn't. expect that from you, Ty. Well, I. didn't. Yeah, I mean, we're talking NASA. here. We're not talking about Bezos. Little Mickey Mouse penis shaped thing. that he just set up. You think it's. Mickey Mouse? I do think it's Mickey. Mouse. Like you said, 100 to 150 times.

You need I need to see that thing go up. in space a 100red million times before. I'd get inside there. Did you see Bezos. when he was coming to open the hatch. walking that crater and it landed on it? I mean, it just Oh, man. He took a. header. It was That thing just comes. down in the middle of nowhere. I mean, you you see Katy Perry kiss the dirt. like Jesus Christ. I thought we were. dead up there. Amen. Yeah, I understand. That's why with what you're saying, I. don't think I saw the reaction. afterwards. There was a real thank god. we're back and everything like that, which I'm very appreciative, but the.

courage it takes to go is something that. I I I do not have. I've been skydiving. before did it one time. Cool. We're. checking the box. We are good with. fighting gravity. Okay, we are we are. done with that. I am a land animal, which I think is what Shreger was going. to say. I'm a big You know what? I think. he was going to say land animal. That. was it. That was it. Honestly, I had no. idea. But oh, they kiss the ground. Yeah, it's called a work, brother. They're trying they're trying they got. to sell it, man. They got to they got to.

let you know like, boy, it was really. really scary out there. But to to Tai's. point, it is Mickey Mouse cuz NASA. actually changed the rules after all. these people people were like, "Let's go. to space. Let's go to space cuz you get. your pin or whatever." And NASA was. like, "Okay, now we have to change it. because it's not just going to space. anymore and all these people are doing. it for fun." What was the Red Bull guy. that Felix Bombard? Do you remember him? Now that guy. went I don't want to hear [ __ ] about. Bombgarder.

That's real. That's a hero. He passed. out on way. Oh yeah. Tumbling head over. feet. He was just going to go. He was. going He was gone. He was going to be. with those cars that Tesla cars are just. floating around. He was going to be. going to space junk. He was going to be. because he passed that. Do you remember. this? We were watching it live. Watch. this guy live. He's gonna attempt the. biggest base jump in the history of the. world. And is that guy out? That guy's. out. He was doing 30 G's coming down and.

passed out. He fell out. No, he passed. out on the way up. Oh, was I think he. passed out on the way up and then he. fell out of the thing. They like kind of. like kind of fell out. Quick pushup. He. was spinning so fast. Thousand miles an. hour maybe. This guy. He was in a He was. in a space suit. He had a Red Bull space. suit on. He was in this little rocket. thing that was like going up and he was. going to do the highest base jump I. think is what it was. I Jesus Christ I. remember this. It's like out of the. atmosphere. Yeah. And he was he got to. they he has passed the point of where he. was supposed to be. We think he's. potentially out like people were like.

scared this guy never going to leave and. then somehow he ends up out of the thing. and it's just a fullon. waking up in the middle through the. falling through the atmosphere through. the different ozones and then I don't. know when he came back to it he had to. be so sick. Oh my god. No, no, he did not. He survived. Congrats. Proud of you, Felix. Felix. But yeah, that that one cemented home the we're. not going up there. No. Okay. We're not. going up there. It's crazy how much like.

water is like space seemingly, you know. Mhm. I watched I watched a guy break an. egg underwater. Did you see this? It was. a video that hit my algorithm. Yeah. And. the yolk and the egg just kind of. floated there just like, you know, you. would think whenever there was space. there. I don't like being in water. I. don't want to be in space. What are you. What are you more scared of personally? Yeah. Never been in space, so I'm okay. with not being scared of it. Uh, water. scares the [ __ ] out of me, though. I I. don't like that. Really? You're more. scared, dude? I've never been in space. You can just sign up not to go. Water, you can [ __ ] around and just fall from.

the sky. It's going to start happening, you know? Like, space ain't just going. to start falling from the sky. Maybe. Maybe. Maybe. That is a fear. Every once. in a while there'll be a new tweet, too. It's like, did you know that uh within a. lightyear of Earth, a asteroid flew by? uh that we did not know was coming. It's. okay. It's past us now. It's like Yeah. All right. I've seen a lot of movies. that have that thing in there. I hope we. have a uh you know, a nice little. shield. We do. Junk. It's a junk shield. I like for some reason last night while.

I was in bed like pictured myself in. space because I was looking at all this. stuff and I was seeing a bunch of tweets. like that. Boy, I was so scared. William. Shatner said, "Yeah, don't ever go.". Yeah. It completely changed my life for. the worse. Don't think about going up. there. It's there's nothing. You look up. there and you say, "We are alone.". This is all for not. Get me back down to. the lonely ass planet Earth. That's what. he said when he came back. Oh, yeah. Katy Perry had like a pretty emotional. response whenever she came back. I'd. assume it's crazy whenever you go up.

there. Well, they did it. Thank god. All. right. Joining us now is a guy that's on. a one-way trip to space. Rocket ship. Boom. He's been on a rocket ship for the. last few years. We've obviously just. learned about him over the last two. years. I'd assume throughout high. school, throughout little league, throughout junior high, this guy was. untackable. He won every single award. Maxwell, do Walker and the Earl. Campbell. He was a runner up for the. Heisman. Ladies and gentlemen, out of. Boise State, running back star stud. Ashton Genty.

Ashton, how you doing, buddy? I'm doing. great, man. Thanks for having me. Okay, so let's say you get drafted uh top six. to the Raiders, like everybody has you. mocked. And the general manager of the. Raiders said that his kid has told him. that if he doesn't draft you, he's going. to disown his entire family. You get a. bunch of money, they offer you to go to. space. You go to space or you staying on. ground. I'm staying on ground, man. I ain't. going to no space. Smart. Me, too. Yeah. You've dominated this earth, too. The. way you chew up ground is better than. anybody else. I couldn't imagine him in.

space. Oh my god. Jenty, maybe something to. think about as you get older. Hembo sent. me some stats here about you while we've. been chitchatting and I'm going to. rattle them off and then I'm going to. get into asking you some questions about. your game if you don't mind. Including. the playoffs. Saquon Barkley scored. seven 60yard touchdowns this season. No. other player had more than four. No. other running back had more than two. Okay, that's Saquon Barkley in the NFL. Ashton Genty rushed for 29 touchdowns. last season, the average of which was 28.

yards. He had five of them for 70 plus. yards, eight of them for 60 plus yards, 10 of them for 50 plus yards. Genty also. forced 126 missed tackles, 38 evaded, 88. broken, most in America. First of all, Ashton, hell of a [ __ ] season, hell. of a season out there. I appreciate it. No problem. Let's talk about what the. game has become. Obviously for Boise. State, you were their go-to player, the. key player, the running back. The NFL. was also becoming that. What has the.

conversations with the NFL teams been. like for you in more of a focus on the. run game type kind of evolution of the. game? We're kind of experiencing Ashton. Yeah, I mean, the conversations have. been great. I mean, especially you see. what, you know, what Seaquin was able to. do and, you know, bringing his team all. the way to the Super Bowl. But um a lot. of teams have a need for a running back, you know, uh a workhorse that you can, you know, take most of the load. throughout the game and, you know, wear. defensives down and, you know, they're.

they're seeing real value um in that. from the running back position. Now, how. have the conversations been going? Has. everybody talked about, hey, we. obviously you played every down, you got. the ball damn near every single down. What have the teams been asking you. about other than your explosion? Have. they been asking you about protection? And have they been asking you about wear. and tear? What has the convo been like. going into the draft for you? Yeah, I. mean those are the main things. Um. besides the running ability, um their. main thing right now is, you know, can. you pass protect? Will you protect the.

quarterback? Um cuz that's a big deal. Are you a three down back? Um but also. being able to, you know, catch the ball, um run routes, um and just be a. allaround, um complete back. Uh go. ahead, AJ. Yeah, when you were, you know, getting. ready for the combine in your pro day, we know everyone works on like these. drills. These are specific drills you'll. be doing, but other than that, I guess. what have you been doing to try to, you. know, step your game up to the next. level once you do get to the league. I'm. sure every coach, like we said, we'll. talk about your pass pro and you have to.

learn how to pass pro, but if you watch. your tape, like we know you're not. scared to to stick your head in there. and and shut down any kind of blitzers, but what do you think you need to do, I. guess, to to separate yourself for your. rookie year? Yeah, I think uh it's it's. attention to detail. Um once you get to. the NFL, I mean, everybody knows exactly. what's happening, when it's happening. So, um just understanding defensive. structures better, understanding um what. we're doing as a offense, what the O. line's doing, the receivers, the tight. ends, understanding it all. Um so that.

I'm a step ahead of everybody when the. ball snaps. Uh Chuck Pagano is a friend. of the program, obviously. He is a. friend of the Boise program as well. He. lives out there now. is coaching for. Baltimore. He has sang your praises for. years. Ty has a question. Yeah, Ashton, what was it about Boise State that made. you want to stay? Cuz with the way NIL. is right now, I assume a couple years. ago, you know, like you could have went. and played in the Big 10. You could have. went and played in the SEC. You could. have played wherever you wanted to. And.

obviously, you know, Boise State, you. guys made it to the playoff, you know, this year. Everyone knows the Smurf turf. and all that kind of stuff, and it's. going to work out for you. But why did. you ultimately uh decide to stay at. Boise State? Yeah, I think the number one thing that. I wanted was, you know, to develop and. to a great running back and, you know, have a chance to play on the next level. Um, you know, I had great group of. coaches around me, great group of. players around me. So, you know, that. remained um consistent, but also the. hiring of coach Danielson. Um, so he was.

the interim head coach my sophomore year. and you know once they hired him like I. knew for sure like he was a perfect guy. and just the relationship that I had. with him already. I mean I knew that he. was going to you know give me the keys. and you know let me do my thing as a. leader as a player as a running back and. um we also had a chance to you know make. history with the new playoff landscape. and make the college football playoffs. You guys gave Oregon all they could. handle week two or week three and.

everybody's like Oregon's not a team. Oregon's dad this year. Little did they. know Boise State was a monster in the. running back was outrageous. You were. phenomenal to watch all season. Thank. you for the excitement every single. week. Debut has a question for you. Yeah, Ashley, I got a question. I guess. coming up, you know, what what backs uh. did you want to really model your game. after? what backs did you admire and uh. more specifically your stance too? You. got a very unique stance when you're. standing behind the quarterback in the. back field very upright. So I guess what.

backs did you model your game after and. where did that stance come in and where. did you start with and obviously you. stuck with it and it has paid off so. far? Yeah, so probably the first running. back I really, you know, paid attention. to and watched was Marshall Lynch. I. just loved his, you know, physicality, his his running style, you know, those. beast mode runs. Um, and then, you know, more recently, you know, as I got older, watching Derek Henry, um, I just love. the stiff arm, even though I'm not as. big as him, but, you know, that's a. great tool to have in your bag. Um,

Alvin Camar is a comparison I get a lot. So, that contact balance. Um, love. watching him and what he does in the. receiving game as well. But, I just. tried to take little things from, you. know, all the greats. And the stance, man, uh the stance always something that. I did, but you know, I always had a. coach telling me that I couldn't stand. like that. But this past this past year, I mean, like I said, Coach D and you. know, my running back, coach, uh. Montgomery, they said, "Do your thing.". And as long as you're being efficient.

out there and making plays, there's no. problem with the way he's standing. Yeah. You look like a punter back there. And then you get the rock and you're. going for 70 every single time you touch. it. What an offense. What a Hey, what a. player you were legitimately in college. ball. You'll be remembered forever as. one of the greats, which is spectacular. Have you always been built the way that. we saw you at the pro day? Cuz obviously. you won tops off, tarps off at the pro. day. You said I'm not as big as Derrick. Henry. I I I think you're uh pretty.

jocked, lad. Uh is this always been the. way you've built? Have you put on weight. for the NFL or is this standard Ashton. Genty? No, that's pretty much how always. been built. I mean, I started so I. started lifting in the sixth grade with. my older brother. Um, he taught me. really how to lift and I mean, it's it's. paid off, you know. So, I had to take. the top off and show everybody what I'm. working with. A smart play. Yeah, we saw. it. Yeah, we saw it and we Holy [ __ ]. look at this guy. Let's give him the.

ball. Connor has a question for you, Ashton. Yeah, Ashton, speaking of. training, have you been able to train. with any guys that are, you know, currently in the NFL or were in the NFL? And then aside from the training, when. you were doing meetings with teams and. things of that nature, did you get any, you know, kind of off-the-wall question? Nick Serriani has told us he used to. play like rocks, paper, scissors in the. meetings with guys and prospects. Did. you do any of that uh during your kind. of entire process during this uh break? Yeah. So,

um sorry, can you say can you say your. question again? He said, "Have you. trained with any NFL guys?" And they. said, "Did you get any?" Yeah, he he. he's in a bad That was a little. longwitted question. Yeah, he's a little uncomfortable. Have. you trained with any NFL guys? And did. you get any weird questions from any of. these NFLs? Nah. So, I I haven't really got to train. with uh NFL guys. I kind of been on my. own just uh trying to get right. And. then I mean, we're flying around so much.

and doing so many different things. you. got to find creative ways to, you know, get it in. I actually was just working. out running hills earlier and I didn't. really get any crazy questions, uh, surprisingly, but I I on my 30-day visit. with the Raiders, they had us playing. golf at Top Golf, but I know they were. they was scouting to see who had a good. swing or not. I know they were. How's. your game? It's it's all right. It needs. a little bit of work. So, I think those. Was there a group of you there at the.

top 30 visit for the Raiders? Yeah. Yeah, it was a group of us. Okay. So, I. think they're trying to see how you. interact with people probably, right? And everybody that has ever talked about. you said like perfect teammate, great. teammate. It feels like that's something. you take a lot of pride in. Yes, I. assume. Yeah, I mean relationships are. important especially, you know, with. those guys that you're going to battle. with on the field. We [ __ ] talk in Top. Golf or we quiet. Do we talk on the. field or are you quiet? It depends. It depends on who I'm. playing. Like, if it's somebody who. talks trash mode, then I'm I'mma talk.

back to them. But, uh, golf. No, I'm I'm. not talking trash cuz I'm not good. It's. my turn to hit. Great. Let me get this. out of the way and then you guys kind of. do your thing. Excited to watch, cheer. you guys on, do your thing. Good move by. the Raiders, though. Worked out for for. the Commanders. Yes, it certainly did. But Jaden, they did that last year with. the group visit. They did the uh Top. Golf thing and have everybody chitchat. And from the reports, he wasn't that. great either. So, at golf, did you make. solid contact? Did you embarrass. yourself out there or did we make at. least some solid contact? No. No. I was. making some I was making some contact. for sure. Okay. Yeah, you dropped down.

the draft board quick. Fall into the net. Do the whole thing. Oh, you're [ __ ] out of there. You're. out of here. All right, let's talk more. about those visits. Tone has a question. for you. Yeah. And uh you talked about. the top 30 with the Raiders. Uh a couple. years ago when Jaylen Carter was coming. out, we had agent Drew Rosenhouse on and. he said, "I am not sending him on any. top 30 visits uh to any team that's. picking outside of the top 10." How did. you approach that this season? Have you. visited anyone outside the top 10 or was. it a similar approach where you're like. I don't think I'm going later than that.

so why would I take that visit? Um I. mean it's been a a similar approach. mainly with teams that are you know. interested in me and you know um only. one's been outside of the the top 10. Um. but you know there's a possibility you. know as a a running back you know. falling out of the top 10. Even the fact. that I'm projected to go in the top 10. is uh you know great for the position. but just I think is most importantly. meeting with the teams who are. interested and you know really have a. need for the running back position. Are.

you doing football training now? All the. combine stuff kind of behind you. We're. not worried about all the I don't want. to say track drills but are we back into. full football training? Do you feel like. you're Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Definitely. back into full football training. I. mean, uh, yeah, the track, the the. underwear, uh, Olympics is behind you. Well, congratulations. Your college. career is behind you as well, and it'll. be one that is chitchated about forever. Truly miraculous accomplishments for the. Boise State squad, and we can't wait to.

see where you end up on draft night. Good luck, and uh, thank you for the. time. Yeah, appreciate you. Thank you. guys. Are you going shirtless at the. draft, too? Oh, you should. I just. might. I just might. Yeah, you should. You should take the professional. wrestler thing, too, and kind of all up. Yep. Yeah. Yeah. You got to let that thing go, you. know. Ladies and gentlemen, Ashton. Genty. Thank you, Ashton. Yeah, he's stacked. Hug hug Raj. All oiled up, too. Raj's. suits messed up the rest of the night.

Just walking. out. Raj, how you doing? He say he. started listening in sixth grade. Mhm. You know, some people are just bu a. little different. sixth grade, he said. his older brother started teaching him. how to start stacking muscle on top of. each other. And then all of a sudden he. gets to junior high football and I see. other people go, "This guy's untackable. What the hell's going on?" Then high. school, same exact thing. Goes to Boise. and he said sophomore year coach was the. interim coach. He gets the the head job. or whatever. Chuck said he was the best. player in football. Yeah. For numerous. years at Boise State. Nobody really knew.

because it was Boise. So they love him. in that community. He's beloved by his. teammates and his coaches and obviously. college football is very thankful for. everything he did last year. Can't wait. to see where he ends up. AJ a good. that's like teammate. Everybody talks. about him as a teammate number one as. opposed to also being incredibly elusive. and incredibly impossible to tackle. Uh. I mean listen to him listen to him speak. and you know like yeah this guy he is he. kind of has his priorities straight. It. feels like when you listen to him but. also look at 5'9 215 pounds. The dude's. all muscle. Like I just I know from.

experience of attempting to tackle guys. like this, it's impossible. Like when. their their legs are gigantic, their. upper body's so strong, they got that. that low center of gravity. Yeah. Good. luck. Good luck. You're going to try to. take him low and you're going to knock. yourself out. Your your head's going to. hit me dead. Mysterious build. And he. has breakaway. Oh yeah. You know, if he. goes through the second, third level, it's gone. Yeah. He's a home run hitter. 70 plus yard touchdowns. 60. Obviously, his numbers are absurd. His vision. Vision's awesome. He's chasing a a. record we thought was untouchable. The.

Barry Sanders record actually like. actually had a chance was in it. Yeah. All right. Speaking of Vinnie, we'll be. back tomorrow. Uh we can't thank you. enough. See you then. Goodbye. That came. up pretty quickly there. Mhm. The double. zeros. That came up real fast. You got. it. Yeah. Got him off. Got the shot off. on time. It's all that matters. Yeah. Count it. Somebody's just Gino Smith. just throwing this. Oh, everybody's. basically said he's going to the. Raiders. Yeah. Yeah. Especially from. that area, you know. I'm not saying. Idaho is close enough, but it is in that.

area, you know, like the Broncos have a. lot of contingency in those states over. there. Idaho, Dakotas, Montana, you name. it. Vegas is well in that area, you. know. I assume a lot of fans of Ashton. Genty in Las Vegas already, you know, and obviously everybody knows about him. And the fact that the GM's kid is like, we're taking this one, right? Not that. that matters. We saw Joe Shane. Sure. True. You know, turn his kids opinions. down, son. Yeah. I wouldn't sleep on the. Patriots either. The Patriots have. talked about taking best available and.

like to what Trager said, if if the. thought really is there are three blue. chip players and Ginty is one of those. guys. Mike Vrabel whose team I mean the. Titans grant he's only been the head. coach of one team but you know the. Titans were obviously a running football. team and you know best way to help Drake. May would be a nice little run game. I. wouldn't see pun at four either and I. don't like you know putting this out in. the universe cuz if anything happens. it's football it can happen. very. durable. Yes. Yes. Played a lot of. football, you know, and that is a great.

ability as a running back is. availability and he has been there for. Boise State. Absolutely. It used to be a. knock on guys that had a bunch of, you. know, tread on the tire, per se. But I. like to, you know, so some guys would. like to split carries like Henderson and. Juckens did and you draft them, you. expect them to be fresh. But, you know, we drafted Jonathan Taylor out of. Wisconsin. He had a ton of carries in. college and has been pretty healthy. He's had some years that he's been. banged up and pretty healthy, especially. early on throughout his career. So, I. don't think that'll be a knock on. Ashley. He's been healthy and he can he.

shows that he can carry. He's a. workhorse. Jonathan Taylor whenever he's. going is awesome. He is explosive. He he. gets out there and you start seeing. shades of what we saw in college for the. Colts. It's like, oo, that is the guy. I. assume the same thing with Genty. You. know, football is football and it feels. like whenever you can run the rock, you. can run the especially if you're speed. If he would have ran a 48 or something. like that, then you're worried. But when. the speed matches with the film, it's. like, "Oh, that guy's going to be able. to play. He's going to be able to play. in the men league." But you see, yeah, you see the breakaway. It's like his.

speed, I think, is very apparent. So, it's like I think whenever you match. that with the ability to see holes and. find holes, it's like I think he's going. to be a men's league guy. I think. immediately some guys can just handle. like the carries, too. Like, I think. Josh Jacobs like led the NFL in carries. for several years and then when he. became a free agent, a lot of people. thought like, "Oh, he might take a step. down." and he had one of the best years. of his career with the Packers and and. you know was getting just as many. carries. Same thing with Henry. Like you. look at how big Genty is. Like obviously. a freak injury could happen, but I don't.

think you look at how many carries he. got in college and like that's not a. deterrent at all. Yeah. AJ, what are. they saying? They're saying Henderson is. the number two guy or Judkins is the. number two guy. Who's the first out of. UNCC? Yeah, that's interesting because. he's getting mocked in the first round. of the. Broncos. Some Bears, too. Well, I seen. Judkins do monster. Oh, yeah. I think. he's Henderson. I mean, they're going to. do Scataboo. Scataboo. That's like he's. going to do running back classes. Caleb. Johnson out. Um, the guy from VTEC. Uh,

there's multiple teams though that won't. take a running back in the first round, right? Aren't there some teams that they. just won't do it? I don't know. He he. mentioned that if he goes in the top 10, it's good for the running back position. And obviously, a couple years ago, we. had the entire running back almost hold. out like union. the running backs almost. like unionized. Saquon was a part of. that. Josh Jacobs I think was a part of. that. Nick Job, Jonathan Taylor was a. part of it. Now, everybody else took a. deal. Jonathan Taylor remained uh you. know uh steady on the mission and I.

appreciate him doing that and taking a. stand. Saquon ended up taking a deal and. then ends up going to the uh Eagles and. gets signed to Big Money. Obviously has. the year that he has. Hopefully. Christian McCaffrey is back. Hope so. For the San Francisco 49ers cuz he was. paid a lot of money. It's like we're. getting into a time now where it feels. and we are once again just doofuses who. watch a sport. It feels like this one, especially if the champions are doing. it. Yep. Monkey see, monkey do league. Okay. Copycat league. They talk about. champions. This is what a coach is. saying to a scouting department. Did you.

see what the Philadelphia Eagles did? They had Jaylen Herz go like this right. here. You see this? Boom. And then. Shaquan R. And then they did what? Boom. Then they did. Mhm. Boom. Life is a lot easier for. everybody if we can run the [ __ ]. football. You got defense coordinators. out there going, "Can we run the. football? Just kind of eat up some. clock." Now that the champions did it, other people will feel empowered to. maybe follow suit. We think that we are. in the middle of the evolution, the.

cyclicality of football back to becoming. a more physical running style of. football. And I think Saquon Barkley is. at the front of it. And I think Ashen. Genty and the boys are going to benefit. from that in the draft. Genuinely, I. think that Yeah. And it's kind of. already I mean, that's all the positive. stuff. It's almost causing problems now. with other teams, you know, like the. James Cook in Buffalo. Buffalo's paid. everybody in, you know, James Cook after. the Saquon deal, you know, he views. himself, which he is. He's a great. player. But because these, you know, quarterback contracts are so high and.

the wide receivers are so high now that. running backs are kind of stepping back. into that like, hey, we are a huge part. of this entire thing. Like you wonder. what is going to happen with the the. salary cap cuz the we've talked about. the quarterback being its own thing for. so long or a percentage of it going only. to quarterback but like if how high can. those numbers get between you know a. Herz and a Saquon and an AJ Brown. I. know you can just figure it out no. matter what but it's just crazy how some. teams are able to and some don't. I love.

that Hasslam paid Miles Garrett 40 some. million. Yeah. Bingo. I lovely he's just. staring over at the Pittsburgh Steelers. You got any money over there? I didn't. think so. Broke [ __ ] That's what. Hasslam said to the Pittsburgh Steelers. He said, "Oh, you Oh, so uh our guy and. the Steelers guys up. Wouldn't it be. nice if that guy wasn't on the Steelers. anymore? How do we do that? Let's run. the tab up." Mhm. Let's run the tab up. Perfect. 40 million for a pass rusher. People are going to call us crazy. But.

you know what? Those people are also. going to say, "Steelers aren't going to. be able to do that. Not for TJ. What?". So TJ maybe gets out of our division. Maybe TJ gets out of our hair. That. Miles Garrett deal gigantic obviously. And we still got Micah. Yeah. Yep. Micah's still kind of waiting to see. what happens. But the TJ stuff with. Pittsburgh, I you know, TJ is the. Pittsburgh Steelers in my eyes. He's the. last one introduced. Okay. Whenever the. defense is introed, place goes crazy. Them with TJ much better than them.

without TJ. Yep. When TJ's playing, they. win. When TJ's not playing, they lose. So when Miles signs for 40, I think TJ's. people probably go, "Whoa, whoa, whoa. Didn't know that was possible." Uh, yeah. I guess that's the market now, you. know. And that's how it's going to be. And the Pittsburgh Steelers are saying, "We're trying to win, brother. We can't. put 40 in a pass rusher at this moment.". Now granted, the Steelers were able to. pay a quarterback a million bucks last. year. True. Okay. So, they were able to. save some money in other departments. But TJ Watt not getting a Pittsburgh.

Steelers deal done at this moment feels. like could be reality when just a few. weeks ago, maybe a week ago, didn't seem. like it was a possibility at all. I. thought TJ was lifelong Steeler. How do. you feel about it now? And how do the. Pittsburgh Steelers fans feel about it? Um, I've seen some mixed reviews on it. Uh, which Steelers fans will What do you. mean? What do you mean? I mean, I think. it's 50/50 right now. Whether you some. people are saying don't pay them. I'd. say 50/50 on pay them or trade them. We. ain't paying one guy $40 million to get.

the quarterback. They go, you know, actually what to say is okay. How many? It's not me, by the way. Oh, okay. It. sounds like this is going to be very. offensive. How many playoff wins does TJ. have? We could win with him. We could. lose with him. We could lose without. Yeah. And that's classic Pittsburgh. I. mean, obviously that is classic. Pittsburgh. Pittsburgh will ride with. you, but as soon as they feel like a. little bit disrespected or something. like that, it's like, "Hey, [ __ ] this. guy.". Yeah, it's exactly. And you know, Coach.

T says volunteers, not hostages. And we. could pay him 40 million, but do they. want to pay him 40 million is the big. question. And you know, what would the. hall be if you were to trade TJ Watt on. draft day? Could you move up and get a. quarterback or in the third? Sorry, what? Maybe in the third round. What are. you talking? I don't know. This is just. another one of those guys that's going. to go for not as much as we think. because you have to pay them and we're. going to be so bummed out about it. DK. Mechaf, there's going to be 31 teams. There are 30 teams, I guess, cuz the. Steelers count is one of them. And then.

the team that trades for TJ, they're. going to go, we couldn't give up a fifth. round pick for TJ. What? We couldn't get. Well, also you got to pay him 40 million. 5 million. DK went for six a year in. this entire thing. DK we thought want to. go for first. He signs for 30 million. immediately upon joining the Pittsburgh. Steelers, which DJ probably goes, "Yeah, that doesn't help." Wait a minute. Yeah. So, yeah, this guy's done a lot here, huh? Well, he scores touchdowns for the. Pittsburgh Steelers. Puts the ball in. the end zone. TJ keeps it out. TJ does.

through, brother. Well, that punch. against the Raiders. I I just hit me. about DK making $30 million by the. Pittsburgh Steelers while TJ's in the. middle of negotiating. Yeah, just going. haven't taken a snap. That's fine. If TJ. wants to make 30, that's fine. Pay him. 30. I'm not. He wants what DK wants. Go. ahead. Give him take it. Feels like 30. is the right number. But the report is. he wants 40. 40. I mean, [ __ ] that's. you would expect that only go up with He. wants more than Miles Gyerson.

Yeah. Make it 45. Yeah. Might have 50. million. Especially if he's going to be. able to do what we think he's going to. be able to do. What number does he come. out of the tunnel last? 52. Let me find. a new last. Okay. Well, I think they. only introduced 11 there. I thought you. were going to say No, I'm saying 52. million. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. But I. understand what you're saying because. But he's not the last person on the. roster. He would be though. It's the. starting lineups. It's 11. Not all 52. are in. If they if they intro 53, guess. what number he'd be? Maybe first. actually cuz maybe he doesn't want to.

wait because he wants to stay warm. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Long time. You guys. need to pay TJ. Do we? Is he gonna hold. in Tony is the guy saying I don't think. so. That's wild. That's wild. You you've. become that person. I could I could go. either way at this point. What are the. stats on when TJ plays and when he. doesn't? Uh completely defeated when TJ. does not play. Uh about 500 when he. plays. Okay. So, we'll give DK 30. million. Mhm. Okay. Mason Rudolph his.

quarterback. Mason Rudolph's. quarterback. DK's undefeated as a. Pittsburgh Steeler. Yeah. I mean, Cam Hayward saying, "Look, [ __ ]. Aaron Rogers. This guy doesn't want to. play here. He doesn't have to play here. What's going on over there in. Pittsburgh?" I'm excited what he says. about TJ cuz TJ's doing the same thing. I saw the Yeah, but TJ's done a lot for. the Pittsburgh Steelers. I think Cam. probably understands that and. appreciates that. We saw a lot of the. Steelers, saw Keyel, saw the boys at big. night out. Shout out to all the Steelers. that came through. They reached out um.

to the arena and they were like, "Hey, how how do we go about getting tickets?". like Fitz was one of them. We definitely. get them in the building. That was a. cool moment. Yeah. Um Highmith Highmith. was there. Uh both Haywards were there. Kel was having a great time obviously. Seven was there. Both I believe was. there and Christian Coun were there. They were having a good time. Doc. Hodgees Doc Hodgees was there. Yeah, the. boys showed up. It was awesome. Yeah, it. was great to see them. Penn showed up. Pirates had a sweep. They showed up. Yeah, they were they were hitting the. batting cages since their average.

batting average is what 184. So I'm glad. they weren't there. Score 10 runs. They. said it's the worst. Did they really? Yeah, they did. Okay. Hopefully. A lot. of walks, I guess. They Who are they. playing? Uh, that was against Cardinals. I want to say they play the Cardinals. with the Reds every [ __ ]. San Reds already swept them. You know. that swept who? Red swept the the Buckos. 3. It's too goddamn cold. They did over. the weekend. Well, you were at the. Pirates game, right, AJ? Yeah. I was at. that one. Yeah, they didn't. They played. the Cardinals that one. Yeah, but the.

Reds played him three times. Boom, boom, boom. Three wins. You got cornered. You. got cornered uh in the suite there for a. good bit. I I walked into the suite, I. saw AJ. Thought they were all your. friends. I thought these were all people. you grew up with. No, I didn't know any. of those people. Yeah, they were very. good. Very nice, those people. Shout out. Sports Net. Those cookies, man. I didn't. have any. Obviously, strict diet was. good. So good. About eight of the hot. dogs that they had out there. Great. ballpark dogs. Yeah, that's the thing. about the Pirates. BNC Park is awesome. Yeah, it's unbelievable. That view. Coolest view. It is. It really is out.

there. Paul Ske is doing things that I. don't think any pitcher's done in a long. time. Right. There's more stats coming. out about Paul Ske every single time he. pitches that nobody's ever done before. Yeah. Like his erra and strikeouts and. innings pitch through however many. starts. Uh yeah. No one's ever. replicated that to start their career. And the guy's a baseball thrower, not a. football thrower. Don't ask any. questions. He did try to throw a. curveball with that thing. That is. interesting cuz it's such a Look at. that. What the [ __ ] is that? What is. that thing? They said he threw like 82. mph sweeper or something. I don't know. what that is. Yeah, it's like kind of.

like a mixture of like a curveball. slider type deal. That that one. Go back. to that one. The fast ball he throws. The movement on the fast ball that he. throws. I think it was this this last. Yeah, it's this this one. Good luck [ __ ] hitting that. Yeah, that's what he did with the football. right there. It looks like it's going in. and then it's out. He's also wearing. that jacket kind of restricted. Sick. David Allen jacket. Shout out to DA. coming through. Shout out to Mikey and. Big Bob for the pre-record video they. did. That was awesome. Set the tone for. the entire night. It was a good video. Painter was cool, too. Cody Sable and.

Painter so [ __ ] talented. Yeah. Owen. Owen was unbelievable. Was awesome on. the Yeah, it was like um I don't know. how that didn't Why Why was that on the. Hulu? I wonder. Yeah, that was weird. So, the version I grabbed it was not in. there and then I'm realizing now that I. just didn't add it in there after. Yeah, cuz we still keep me referencing it in. there. Yeah, that is totally on me cuz. at once you guys brought that up, I just. realized that it was a full on the from.

what about the USA chant? We had a USA. chant to start the whole thing. Great. USA chant. Yeah. Then you come out right. after that. Yeah. So from the moment. that show ended. I mean I didn't even get to enjoy. I. heard the catering was unbelievable. which I'm very happy about. Very very. good. That was a very focal that was a. big focal point in my eyes. Uh hey for. everybody that's working here a lot of. hours, a lot of hard work. Let's make. sure they're eating good. And catering. can really change morale. So, we wanted. uh I wanted to go all in on the. catering. I didn't even get to eat the.

catering one time. Uh cuz we're. obviously working through the stage and. the rehearsals. Everybody had good time. As soon as the show ends, get a quick. chance to dap up with everybody. Boom, boom, boom. Good to see everybody. Thank. you so much for coming. I'm about to. piss my pants. Okay, I got to go here. Boom, boom, boom. Hey, is there any uh. buddy left? Yep. Back there. Go say. Shane hanging still. Couple people in. the back hanging. Want to say what's up? Cool. Let's sit down. Do a little bit of. that. Oh, I didn't wear socks. I got. blisters all over my feet and my cowboy. boots. Okay, bad decision. Let me sit. down. Have a couple moments there. Everybody's heading to the hotel lobby. Sweet. Then me and Foxy just have to sit.

there and like, "All right, we got to. get this [ __ ] video to Hulu in like. 12 hours. We got to rip this. We got to. clip this. We got to post this. We got. to do this." That was a nightmare. No. Yeah. To be clear, I felt really bad. about that and thank you for staying up. with me. But you literally just had your. biggest show you've ever done. Not only. on stage, but everything you went that. went into it. all the phone calls. Literally, I've never seen someone on. the phone more than you were prepping. for this show. It was unbelievable. And. this is weeks and weeks and weeks and. weeks of this. And then the show goes. great and right after you're sitting.

there on a laptop in some random back. room editing a video with me while. everyone else is out having drinks and. having a good time in your home city. I'm like, what the [ __ ] is going on. right now? Well, I don't think I would. have been able to go to that hotel from. what I've been told. I don't think I. would have been able to go there, which. is a a good thing and a bad thing if I. would have walked in there. One of the. winners was there. I think it would have. been a good time. Hopefully, they're. running up that tab. He was uh he was. black. He was having a good time. Okay. All right. Good. I asked the uh the $2. million winner. He lives in Pittsburgh. area and uh I did ask a couple times,

hey, can you guys spend some money there. or some restaurants, you know, maybe get. a Dallas out pizza, buy thousand pizzas, you know, just give back to the. community. I'd lay low about that if you. were him in that jersey. I lay low if I. was Yeah. Don't tell your buddies you. won that. They know. They know. Unfortunately. Yeah. They I'm sure. they've been calling. Everybody knows a. Philadelphia Eagles fan winning is the. greatest ending. Sweet. It was good. It was good. I watched it. again. Uh the Hulu version last night.

Not all of it. It's long. Three hours. too long. I think two and a half. probably the sweet spot if I had to. guess. Two and a half is probably where. if we were to do one again. Two and a. half is where we would like it to be. But I think that is uh replicable. Mhm. I think we could travel to other cities, you know. Pretty expensive night. Obviously worth it though. I think. everybody had a great time. Um I think. it is doable again in other cities. So. now we're eyeballing what cities to kind. of go and take it to. And also the acts.

that want to be a part of it, you know, after seeing a lot of people have reach. out and been like, "Yo, you doing that. again?" Ichi. Ichi's coming. He better. be back. Well, Heroki needs Heroki is. Yeah. Heroki's my guy. Yeah, that's my. dude. Yeah, Heroki took the L, but in. the end, I think he won. Yeah. Yeah, he. had a lot from the moment he entered the. stage, stole the show. Yeah. To the time. exiting and her. Shane Shane goes, "Hey, hey, this is not racist. They told me to. say this.". Ah, what a moment. Thank you to.

everybody, man. Once again, let's. remember Whiz Khalifa Cushion OJ2 April. 18th. Parker McCullum at Acer Stadium. May 31st with George Strait. Everybody. that was a part of that program uh. basically just did it for free because. they wanted to put on a hell of a show. and uh we can't thank him enough uh for. all of it. I will I will take my mind to. that. night time and time again probably for. the rest of my life. What a moment. Great night. Yeah. Mhm. Everybody.

singing along. Yeah. [Music]. We don't. care. That's how it's supposed to be. Come on. My hands up. I had my hands up. I'm telling you, I had my hands up. I. look around the suite. Nobody else had. their hands up. I was like, "All right, guys." Everybody had their hands up in. the A lot of people in the suite did. not. And as I was trying to get. everybody going again, I'm disgusted if. that was the case. So know he was. When.

I uh talked to Snoop and Whiz and Will, shout out to Will, shout out to Tasha uh. and Sarah from Snoop's team. Whenever I. talked to Snoop the first time about it, uh FaceTime with him, I'm like, Snoop, I'm thinking about putting this variety. show together in Pittsburgh. I've. already talked to uh Whiz and Will. obviously, and we need you to be a part. of it. He goes, "Oh yeah, that's easy. We wrapped that up with Young, Wild, and. Free Too. That's our biggest one. No. problem at all." And then he started. like piecing it together and I'm like, "Yeah, hey Snoop, whatever you're. thinking, buddy. whatever you are,

whatever you want. So, like the. ownership that the guys took upon their. performances, I'm very appreciative of. like Jelly Roll. Yeah. He was so pumped. Jelly Roll, if you could see Jelly Roll. live, you go watch Jelly Roll live. He. and his entire band, 11piece Band. Yeah. Okay. which the setup for the 11piece band was. a lot, but certainly worth it with how. [ __ ] great they are and how talented. they are and how getting a chance to. meet them and talk with them, how.

appreciative they were to be a part of. it, which was so cool. But Jelly Roll. cares so much about people having a. great time. Like the medley that played. at the end, uh the hip-hop medley they. pieced together, he was like, "Uh, hey, we're going to treat this thing like. it's a bar show. Is that okay? We want. everybody to sing along." I'm like, "Yes, Jelly Roll, you completely. understand the assignment." I think he. does that for every show. I think Jelly. Roll wants everybody to have a blast, including his band. So, if you get a. chance to go see Jelly Roll, you go. Like, that is my doubt big takeaway from. it, especially getting a chance to work.

with him. And the fact that he's lost. 200 lb. Yeah. Was so awesome to kind of. see and report about. He uh Jelly Roll. is a special dude, special talent. His. band's so damn good. What a way to start. that entire thing. I'm just watching the. uh stage right now and like we knew. watching it how cool it was, you know, and the it going up and down, everything. like that. I saw a show two nights later. in PPG. Boy, did your your stage just I. mean dunk on that thing a thousand out. of a thousand. Well, shout out to the.

WWE a guy named AJ is director of WWE. production creat I told him he needs a. better title. Sure. I told him I said AJ. I want to give you a shout out. What's. the name of your group? because he's got. like this group that is tasked with. coming up with answers and ideas and. building like the wristbands and. everything like that. That's part of. AJ's team. The stage building, the. lights, the lifts, the smoke, like. everything is from this guy AJ's team. who's actually a twin. His twin named.

Sam looks exactly like him. Vastly. different humans from what I found out. It was a little bit dark on the stage. rehearsal day. And I seen AJ and I had a. question for AJ. AJ walks away. Then AJ. walks in again and I go, "AJ?" He goes, "Uh, I'm not AJ." Yes, you the [ __ ] are. I just talked to you. I'm Sam's twin. brother. Oh, okay. Do you have the. answer? No, that's AJ's. Okay, I will go. to AJ. So AJ and his team, the WWE. folks, all great. Stu, the cameraman. seen his camera guy. He had that carry.

camera for 10 hours. Yeah. The entire. day. Probably 11 straight hours. That's. a heavy rig, too. And that's coming. right out of Wrestlemania. He was just. in Europe right out and let alone Rico. and Sweaty and uh you know Marty Fatam. and the crew in the truck. It's like. everybody Grogan obviously out there. grinding his ass off running through the. entire thing. I mean it's a and think. about how many shows and how many hours. they're going to work just this weekend. A thousand. Yes. On top of all that. Yeah. So I'm very very thankful for. everybody. I will never stop saying.

that. And uh what a cool night. Hopefully we're able to do it again. Hell yeah. We've learned a lot. Yeah. Learned a lot. A lot of time, a lot of. effort, a lot of calls, a lot of. thoughts, a lot of pitching what it is. to people. Well, now you now you don't. hopefully have to do that anymore. That's a big part of it. Well worth it, too. It was It was a success. Yes. You. know, I mean, if that thing would have. sucked then, yeah, we're different. conversation, but nightmare, nightmare, nightmare. Yeah. Everybody in there. And. then obviously there was a fight.

Pittsburgh should happen. It happened. Only one. Mhm. I know that's not how. media people are going to report it, but. impressive. That's impressive. Put me on. the record of saying only one fight in. Pittsburgh in a three and a half, four. hour event with everybody on top of each. other. Yeah. For I don't know what your. city's like. For Pittsburgh, that's. really good. Really good. Yeah. Especially with West Virginia people in. there, Pit people in there, Penn State. people in there. I mean, it was a I. think it was a celebratory. Yeah. I.

mean, through and through. the money. giveaways like realistically when that. got down to the single rows I was like. oh Jesus Christ like someone who wins in. row or in seat three like yeah seat four. is going to cold [ __ ] them and like like. and none of that [ __ ] happened. Everyone. was genuinely excited for the people who. won. Him getting booed here Aaron and. Mara uh they had to put it at 2 million. and then he gets booed and I say. Philadelphia Eagles fan you hear him. kind of take a say he goes go birds here. in a second. Holy [ __ ] Yeah. Oh my god.

we did it. They're having a baby, which. is awesome. Shout out to the. Philadelphia Eagles fan winning that. thing. Holy [ __ ] Show them. again. Go. Birds. It's my favorite moment. All. right. Um, let's get the hell out of. here, boys. We're back tomorrow. Big one. tomorrow. Mhm. Huge. Hey, we might have. some real journalism over the next. couple days. That's right. And then. Friday 12:15 Eastern, 9:15.

local, the original R the one tribal. chief will be joining us. Boom. He looks. good, too. He's jacked. [ __ ] He looks. so jack. Last night was it was a tough. night. We're going down. Aman. [ __ ]. up. I like that he circled Paul a couple. different times. Kind of let him feel. the aura. Paul Ammon's in an interesting. spot, ain't he? Yes, he is. He's [ __ ]. Not so wise, man. Well, Seth also says,

"Hey, you owe him. You owe me, too, cuz. he could stomp his head." I thought he. was going to Seth coming Seth just the. best. Clean fit last night. I mean, he. comes out, too. Those boots were. outrageous last night. Classic long-term. storytelling there. It's beautiful. I did see some throwbacks back in the. day. A lot of people throwing some. things back. That's the good thing about. the wrestling world. Certainly on. purpose. all those things. Him bringing the. Shield chair shot last night. Oh yeah, I. was actually in the crowd because that. happened in Indianapolis. The Shield.

breaking up at Gamebridge downtown. I. was in the crowd whenever that happened. Holy [ __ ] This changed the entire. thing. Last night, Seth, yet again, just. like at Wrestlemania last year. Yeah. What's going to happen in Mania? I don't. know. Tribal Chief's going to win. I got. some questions about Punk about CM Punk. Yeah. What are your questions? Throwing. haymakers, man. Mania season. So just. you know you should just look into his. eyes but I can't. do terrified cult.

personality on too. Huh? He has some. sick shoes on too. He's a ho. He's got. hocas out there. Hank didn't kick one of. those. Oh no. Never mind. Not the. punches he throws. His hair. Oh yeah. Mhm. It's clean. This is the best hair. CM Punk's had I think long time. I don't. know for sure if that's a factual. statement, but it's hair right now. His. hair in high school. Were those co. custom hocas? I never seen them with. that thick on the bottom. That's what.

hocas are, brother. No, those ones. Those one looked even a little bit more. I never seen Remember those ones you. had, Pat? Used to wear the platform ones. where you'd roll your ankle. They're all. platform ones cuz you're trying to make. it like you're on a clock. Hocas are. sick. And I did fall off the hog. I'm. run a triathlon. Maybe. Well, maybe CM. Punk is going to do that after his main. event. Main event. CM Punk. Congratulations to seeing Punk. We were. punk. How about Mommy Eio Sky and Bianca. Belair? That one has gotten tensions. high. IO was speaking Japanese to us. last night, I believe. She's done that.

the last few weeks, I believe. Picked a. few things up. Yeah. Did it? Yeah. Because of the Suma wrestling. Yeah, because of Andrew. Mhm. That should be. good. Fred Arson, LA Knight, Jacob Fatu. Yeah, that's going to be a great match. Damen Priest, Drew McIntyre. Oh, yeah. Scenes. Are we? Huh? Dun verse the man. I'll tell you what, Jay Uso looks like a. different guy these last couple weeks. When we were in Europe there, I was a. little worried. Locked in. I was a. little worried. I'm like, what do we got.

here? Gunther seems to be in complete. control. Gunther snapped a little bit. He kind of lost his cool last time. Michael Cole was supposed to interview. him. It didn't happen at all. That was. Gunther was on his home turf. You're. right. Over. Jay Jay needed his brother. James back around. Jamie got his ass. beat there right in front of him. And I. think it was that moment where Jay was. like, "Is that the worst that could. happen? He's still alive. I'll keep it. moving." Boom. I'll tell you what, Sacramento was eating hard last night. There's a lot of Michael Cole needs to. figure that out before Mania. He needs. to figure out like why does he keep.

trying to say that about Shaq Gable like. that? He's Yeah, I don't know. Why does. he keep saying two people or one? We get. yelled at for saying like conspiracy. stuff. Michael Cole is saying that two. different people are the same person. I'm about sick of it. It's just not. true. He's old. It's not I mean I guess. there is some similarities if you look. at the body type and everything but. Grande Americano is a vastly different. wrestler than Chad Gable was. Yeah. Completely different. Exactly. Exactly. Both of them pretty jacked. Pretty. ripped. Yeah. Oh, it's professional. wrestling. So is everybody in there.

This is the WWE AJ. I'll tell you what, Rey Mysterio last night did a. springboard. um splash from the outside. He's been. doing that for 25 years. Every time I. see it, I'm like, how the [ __ ] is he. still that explo? Legitimately, I have. no idea how he's still cuz those ropes. high. Like I. in my match against Corbin, I did a. slingshot out to the outside and I've ne. never done it before, you know? But I'm. like, feels like right time. He was.

standing out there like I need to do. this. And as I'm doing it, I'm like high. school, I used to have to jump fences, you know, on the way out of things. I. used to think I was pretty good, but. that thing's moving a little bit, you. know, so you don't know where to. So, as. I'm going over, I'm like, "Oh, maybe I'm. not gonna get over this thing." And then. Rey Mysterio just grabs that [ __ ]. take flies through the sky. It's like, "This guy's unbelievable." He's got his. work cut out for him, though. Well, Grande Americano has been quite a. problem since arriving on the scene. Mean, I don't know much about him, honestly. I know he's willing to put a.

sinko head in there, the uh not just a. forehead, a five head with the steel. underneath the mask. That has been quite. a weapon for him. Mhm. Got to keep Don't. the ref got to check that, you think? Thank go cheater but cheater. Yeah, he's. he's willing to break the rules a little. bit. We're learning about El Grande. Americano as we go here. He's a. competitor. He is. Whatever it takes. Fiery. Got to respect that. I heard him. speak a little Spanish, too. I think he. said silencio. I think.

Elgr Baja California. His lingo might be. a little bit different. Mhm. I think he. said gracias as well. Nailed it. bowling for all of them. Yeah, that chop. by Panther was phenomenal. Sh. That's. penta football. And Michael Cole started. talking to Mike Cole, please. Penta. speaking. I've been learning a lot of. Spanish through Penta. Is. Walt La Parka I believe used to do? Is. that a WCW guy, right? Parka. He's kind.

of legend. Very similar. That's what he. does at. So they do those arrival shots. and uh I don't know. I don't know if. they tell him just, hey, just however. you would arrive. But you can see Penta. like casually walking and then in his. head he's like, I can't do it. I got to. I gota I got to do something. He can't. help himself. Like needs to be. electrifying. You can see middle of. match he's like, "All right, I need to. need to need to heighten the stakes a. little bit here. Need to get. electrified." He is inexperienced. The.

penta experience is on. I can't wait for. Wrestlemania with Penta legitimately. set me. And then I was I was talking to. him backstage and I was like, "Is there. anything I could add to that?" And he he. gave me some Spanish lingo um to throw. in the back end of that I guess would. have been translated to. [ __ ] if I would have said it. Cuz like immediately after he told me, I. was like, "Okay, sick. I'm going to say. that." He like just laughed and like. walked away. So I get in the gorilla and. there's some other Spanish speakers and. I'm like zoo mto whatever it was and.

they're like, "You should not say Don't. say that. I'm like, "All right, okay. All right. I'll get better. I'll get better at. Spanish." Rey Mysterio always walks over. to me, though. Last night he was even. cuz he don't like that I am, you know, still. Yeah. Sure. Yeah. Nonbias against. El Grande Americano. You know, cuz I'm. just trying to call it as I see it. That's how you're a professional. Shoot. it straight. That's right. Cole's not at. all. No, he's not. So, somebody here has. to at least. It's a big mark. You would. think he would be after all those years,

but he's not at all. But Ray comes out. and he goes to me. I'm like, Ray, I'm a. fan. Well, come on. I'm a fan. Everybody, you're [ __ ] right there. Viva Arasa Rey Mysterio. Mhm. Should be. a great Wrestlemania week. Be so good. Is getting a big push. You know what is what is the men doing. this? I think we know. Eating potato. chips and hanging out on his bus. No.

No. Oh, he might be golfing. Puts good. golf videos out. Yeah, put golf videos. out. He said he's gotten worse somehow. Did you see that? Yeah. His swing is. beautiful. Great swing. He changed his. swing though. I don't know if you saw. I. mean, yeah, he's in his head a little. bit. I feel like a little bit. Yeah, I. think the Miz will probably live in his. head for the rest of his life, but #. Mizgolf is a it's a mustfollow. That's. how powerful the game of golf is because. Miz is the most confident person I've. ever met in my life. And even golf has. defeated the Miz. Yeah, he you're right.

The Miz can walk into any situation. You're supposed to be here. I'm the man. And golf was like that for what, two. years with him for a long time. Think. about the NBA All-Star game. He thinks. he's an NBA basketball player now. because he was in that All-Star game and. he made the shot. Yeah, but it didn't. count. which is the most mized thing of. all time. But you're right, golf has. kind of humbled him a little bit. I'll. even see a caption that like, I'm not. good today. It's like, whoa, are you. okay? Is Miz all right? Golf broke him. You could be like Connor and I miz and.

just stop playing the game. Yeah, it's. great life. I'm really enjoying it. I. don't even have to think about whether. or not the ball is going to go the way I. want it to go. Nope. The s doing the. golf simulator. Really fun. Have you. been doing it? No. No. But it's fun. But there I'm sure if. someone were to do it, they'd be like, "This is fun." Remember, I did the sim. for a couple months and I got worse at. golf and I said, "That's it. If I'm. going to practice and get worse, I'm. done with this thing. [ __ ] that. Who has.

enough time to try and master the. sport?" But I'll tell you what, you. watch Masters, you think to yourself, "Yeah, I got to get out there.". It'd be so cool. It'd be so cool. That. shot on Saturday that Rory hit on that. par five, that was exactly like Tiger. shot. Think about how [ __ ] awesome. that had to be. Oh my god. Just whoom. boom. Beautiful shot. And then as it's. flying, just walk that thing off. That. had to feel so good. Yeah. So good. Yeah. But we all know none of us will. ever be there, so who cares? AJ, I don't. know. I don't. If you try hard enough,

AJ will be there. AJ's been there. I. have unrealistic expectations for. myself. You're new to the game. Yeah, we. understand that. I'm still I'm still in. where Miz was probably. Yeah. What how. many times are we playing a week? Are we. still playing? I try. Well, now that. it's nice out up here, I can get out on. uh well, getting nice uh like twilight. So, whenever I can get out up here, it's. probably twice a week if I can. Still. playing though, twice a week roughly. Yeah. Playing. How's the game? Are we. getting better? The game is good. I. mean, I consistently break 90. So, that's I'm trying to take that next jump.

where I'm consistently breaking 85. You. know, no [ __ ] No, you know, free. drops and mulligans and all that [ __ ]. Hold on though. You're not looking for a. bull. No, I Well, if we know it's in. this area, gallery drop or if it's in. the area that we know it came down. I'm. not a guy that's going to look around. Hey, come help me out. Look for four or. five minutes for my [ __ ] ball. No, I. drop it. Or drop and take a stroke. Yeah. Or no, if I'm with somebody, he's. not taking a stroke. That's what he. said. Gather gallery drop. I will not. take a stroke. But if we like legit, nobody saw it come down, can't find it,

I'll take a stroke for sure. Okay. So, gallery drop I'm learning is the term. cuz I've been playing by this golf rule. my entire life. So, we all saw it in. this area. Yeah, we know it's We know. what's up. I'm not a [ __ ] blood. hound, okay? I'm not going to be able to. find this goddamn ball and I don't have. time. It's in this area. Yeah, we know. We know what's here. That's called a. gallery drop, I believe. So, you don't. need to You don't need to remember that. We're not playing a game anymore. No. [ __ ] way. Get back out there, man. Foxy is playing really well, I think. Fox, aren't you playing some good golf. right now? Yeah. So, I played three. rounds so far this year. All nine hole.

rounds, and I've played really well. I. shot 38 the first time I went out, which. is really incredibly good for me. So, like my expectations are all right here. I even changed my swing and it's. working. So, I'm in a bad spot going. into this season right now. What do you. mean? What'd you do? How'd you change? Come on, pocket a little bit here. Yeah, I'm actually like hitting the ball on. the sweet spot, whereas before it was. just weak, right, weak, right, weak, right? So, for some reason, it's not. going as far, but it's going exactly. where I wanted to, and it just feels. right, if that makes sense. AJ, have you. been playing? I have not logged any any.

rounds this year, but uh I've hit my 54. Yeah, I've hit my 54 degree W down the. basement. That's what I hit downstairs. How often do you hit You hit in that sim. every single day, huh? No, I mean I. definitely do, especially after like. watching the Masters. Yeah, I'll hit in. there a couple times a week. No doubt. You don't believe in swing changes, though. Every time somebody says swing, no chance. I don't believe in thinking. when it comes to golf. Like I have. delusional confidence. Like I feel like. wherever I go, like I can figure it out. Like I don't I definitely don't take. time like worrying about golf. Like I'm.

always like positive eight. Doesn't. matter. Glass half full. If I if I drove it 700 yds out of. bounds. All right, let's take a stroke. Boom. Let's get up and down for par. Yeah, but somehow when you drive it 700. yards out of bounds, you find it on the. other side of the woods and there's a. clear path right to the green. I think. that's potentially because of how. positive you are. I think that's because. of how positive you are. I don't I just. don't understand. Like I don't I'm not. smart enough to understand what anything. means. Like, oh, I'm coming inside out. or over the top or out of the pocket. Like I I legit that's that sounds like. Chinese to me. I don't know. I don't. understand. Mandarin. I just go try to.

swing. Chinese are the people that a. Chinese person. I meant you. Yeah. Mandarin would be the language that. you're saying they're speaking. You. wouldn't be able to understand. Um you. happen to have like a perfect swing. though. I think that's potentially. that's why I don't know what anybody's. saying. I never thought you just [ __ ]. look at the ball, you take the stick, and you just [ __ ] hit the thing. And. what was everybody thinking about his. drives? You should be in a long drive. You should do a long drive. You should. try that one time. Will you do that for. the program just one time? What kind of. I mean I mean what kind of like one of.

the real competitions? Yes, but I think. those dudes hit it a lot farther than. me. Yeah, but they're using juiced up. sticks drivers. Yeah. Yeah. The thing's. like 30 ft long. That driver. Yeah. Let. me try one of those. We need to get you. the jaw ham. Yeah, that hammer. We need. to get you that hammer in there cuz the. way you hit your drive, it's cheating. Like golf becomes much easier with the. way you hit that thing. And he's got to. put it in play. How far is he that you. do? Forever. because I know AJ will lie. So, it goes and it's [ __ ] Yeah, it's. a flightish. It's awesome. 350.

Numerous people at the course that are. working that uh American Century Classic. like the volunteers or whatever. Haven't. seen anybody hit it this far thus in the. tournament, you know, in every single. hole. It's basically like haven't seen. anybody put it this far on the fairway. Every time it just There's trees. Okay, it's par five. Trees here, fairway here. To get it to here, it's got to carry 320. probably. AJ, no thinking. We're [ __ ]. And it's 340 coming down on the other.

side. Straight. It's like a plane, a jet. engine taking a jet plane taking off as. well. The way it's like it's a spectacle. and he's falling like Sheffler while. he's doing it out of his forward. If I. fall forward, that's not going to hit. it. Yeah. And uh Wle WLE's uh trying to. golf and his lady was his caddy. She's a. professional golfer. She wasn't letting. him watch AJ T like drive. Oh yeah. Like. don't watch don't watch. She told Rob. not to watch me swing because she.

thought that Rob would start really. going too hard trying to keep up with. AJ. That's what he does at a T- box. He. [ __ ] intimidates others. Alpha. Yeah. Like watch. Like she was literally like. covering his eyes. He was facing the. other direction. And I'm almost like, "Hey, there's about to be a show over. here. You want to [ __ ] watch golf. ball whacker guy. He's about to do his. thing." And they're like, "We we don't. want to watch him. We don't want to. watch him." That's what he does in the. T- ball. The first year on 18 with. Wrigle, uh AJ hit it. It was like a 520. or 525 par five on 18 and AJ hit it and.

when we got up there, that's when one of. the people said, "This is the farthest. we've ever seen someone, you know, hit a. ball." And then when we got next to him, we used the rangefinder and it was like. 115 to the pin. Yeah. It's like 400. yards. Yeah. And it's at altitude. obviously. Yeah. So, yeah. And like it. was that far. Roll out. Little roll out. Yeah. But the flight of it is like a. [ __ ] Oh yeah. And then it like just. floats up there. It's unbelievable to. watch. And you could take one look at AJ. and you could probably guess that he. hits the ball pretty far. My biggest. thing was he does that and then he's got.

silky smooth hands around the greens and. he's making putts. I couldn't believe. that he was making putts and the golf. gods bless him. Oh yeah. It's not like. like it's [ __ ] You know how you. hope for a good bounce? Oh like they won. I think 11. Bingo. AJ's getting good. bounces on everything. Even if it's the. sprinkler head, he'll [ __ ] hit that. thing and then it's going onto the green. as opposed to like kicking off the. thing. It's hitting the direct center of. the sprinkler head and then it's rolling. up to three feet somehow. Oh, good. bounce. That was cool. And then the next.

hole we're going off a [ __ ] tree. right into the goddamn fairway every. time. It's cuz I'm not a victim. Cuz a. lot of golfers are victims. Oh, of. course I of course my ball would get. stuck in a dip. Of course it would do. this. Like don't be a victim. You don't. ever need to be a victim in anything. AJ's super positive, I will say. Boy, walking that course out there is two. thumbs down. Yeah, I wish I had two more. hands so I can give walking that course. four thumbs. Beautiful event, though. And watching AJ. drive a ball is a spectacle. We need to.

get you one of those telephone poles so. you can take on those [ __ ] long. drive. So, you're open to it? Yeah. Oh, yeah. Of course. Boom. Boom. Open to. everything attached to nothing. Speaking. of, what's he up to, dude? You got any. saints? I'm kind of attached to a lot of. things, though. So like family, kids, wives, chicken, rice, everything. Plain. chicken. Yeah. I don't know. What is. there? Are the Saints an option? Do we. hear anything? Any anything on that. front? You tell me. I got nothing. You know, we we were. talking about this earlier and.

um I don't know if people believe us. whenever we say this, but it is the. truth. We in this Thunderdome do not. know [ __ ] about what Aaron Rogers is. thinking or doing. like during the. season we certainly talk to him and we. mentioned this during big night out like. Aaron Rogers Tuesday ends after the. season ends and then if he comes back. for a recap that's literally on him or. not the one year whenever he didn't. after the Jets obviously after Aaron. Rogers Tuesday was over I was called a. coward and everything and then he was. brought on the next day then I was.

called the worst person on earth I mean. it was a it was an interesting. backto-back this relationship with Aaron. we've been very lucky to get a chance to. chitchat with him and learn about him. and everything like that but we don't. know [ __ ] about what's happening with. him. We hypothesized today it would be. cool if you're Aaron Rogers to stay in. shape, you know, not have to do any of. the offseason stuff, not have to do any. training camp. Week 10, week 11, week. 12, a starting quarterback for a very. good team goes down. Inevitable. And. then all of a.

sudden, who comes that would be so cool. He goes to the Not that we don't want to. put anything into this guy, right? But. let's say Jared Goff, something happens. to Jared Goff. Not that we want that to. happen, but like let's just say. something happens to Jared Goff or Brock. Perie or [ __ ] Jaylen Herz or Lamar. Any. of these good teams that we are talking. about. Something happens week 13, week. 14. Need a quarterback and then who's. out there? Well, there's a [ __ ]. four-time MVP coming right off the couch.

like Flaco did for the Browns whenever. he leans him in there. You're coming in. in a hero situation. you're coming in in. a you're going to get paid a good amount. of money. The incentives are probably. going to be there for you to win and. you're only going to go to a winning. team. So it's like if I'm Aaron Rogers. Yeah. and I'm not. It would be cool if I. was just He play guitar show. Well, sure. You know, he's so good at golfer. So good at golf. Makes no sense how good. he is at golf. Hey, have you been.

golfing? No, I was actually in Hungary. It's first time playing with the sticks. Scratch. Okay. Unbelievable. Could you. imagine coming in there week 13 though, no. expectations, one of the best teams in. football, and then all you got to do is. finish the season and go on a playoff. run and then just gradually learn and. then you might win a [ __ ] Super Bowl. with these teams. It's like that's. possibility. That's a possibility still. that nobody's really talked about. Yeah, he shows up like super tan cuz he's been. in Morocco for two months, but he's been. throwing the ball when he with whoever.

he's at in Morocco. That'd be pretty. sweet. Have you ever been to I've been. to Morocco. You ever been over there? No. What's it like? Good time. Good. place. I um. uh I got pickpocketed playing soccer in. the streets there. Yep. But that was a. good place. Is that where they tried to. sell you the coffee beans or whatever. you turn down? Yeah. Argon oil, argon. nuts, and Moroccan nuts. Great guy over. there. Chug some tea. Really lit the the. room on fire that I went to. Had a nice. uh they got a lot of good rugs, I. believe. Moroccan rugs, I believe. Hookah out there, too. Hookah. Yeah, I.

think I did. I think I did have some. hookah there. Good place. Good place. You know, it's right there on the uh. Mediterranean. So, Spain's there, I. think. Um the Canary Islands are right. there as well. You ever been to Aiza? Aa my bad. A I've never been I've never. been to aultured. Me either. I've never been to a child, but there is a chance that Aaron is at. a Jordan Love just got hurt. Green. Packers quarterback. It's week 15. Stop.

the beat. Could you imagine? Oh my god. Throws a. jetack on. Yeah. Takes off into a. helicopter. Yeah. Jetpack. He just. levitate, grab his wand, get his staff. out or whatever. So what he would do, he. would move the rock there. Yep. Yeah. And he would walk right back into Green. Bay. I'm. back at. quarterback for the Green Bay Packers.

He'd have that uh long johns on. Yep. Yep. That he always wears. Come jogging. out. Y'all ready for this? [Music]. Yeah, that's what they do. Yep. There's. They move the rock at the entrance. Sorry. They move the like like he's. coming out of the tomb. That's That's. the entrance. So, he's the last. They. They cut to real They They zoom out from. the rock and they roll the stone out and. Aaron just comes out of smoke. Yeah. And. then they got that doppelganger guy. standing right on top of him. Yeah. Aaron actually turns, murders him. Boom.

Yeah. Stops halfway. Cobb and AJ. I was. joking. He's not actually going to kill. somebody. Jeez Louise. In the time that. we're in, but um. that's a possibility. It is. It is high. like highly likely. Can't roll it out. Would be a cool thing to be able to do. for the first time in your entire. career, too. Just kind of like come in. as a hired gun. Sure. Yeah. Going to be. a welcomed addition to whatever team you. are at that stage of the season. Mhm. This is now assuming that somebody's. going to get hurt, which we don't want. to do, but it is the NFL and that is.

certainly possible out there. I mean, open anything attached to nothing. Yeah. The most interesting one would be like. if the Bears are good. And Caleb. Williams gets hurt. I don't think he'd. do that. And then the Bears call. I. don't think he would. And they off. Ben. Johnson's offense. Oh my god. I don't. think he would. Well, we'll see if Ben. Johnson's offense is good this year. He. was great in Detroit, but you know, let's not put the car before the horse. What are you talking about? They've been. making all the good moves. They've been. sning all the offensive linemen. I love. what they did. I know. Just got to see.

You just got to We got to see it out. there. Hey, I saw the Chicago Bear. family said they're going to own the. team for the next hundred years as well. I saw that. That's still happening. I. remember uh there was a super duper. agent that was on our show from Radio. Very. superest agent probably going, "What's. going on over there?" Huh? Ain't there a. little tax? There's going to be some. stuff it's going to have to go on up. there. Could you imagine the Chicago. Bears would go for quite a Oh, yeah. Yeah. You might have to quite a hefty. ransom if they weren't for They're also. building two steels as of right now.

because they can't figure out which one. They don't know what they want to do. That's so classic Illinois politics. Start them both. Listen, start them. We'll figure it out at some point. Okay. Somebody's going to have to budge. Whatever finishes first, right? We do. concerts, right? That's like Cleveland, right? Isn't something going on with the. stadium in Cleveland, too? Not. everybody's throat. Yep. I think they're. doing it right. When's the Buffalo? They. want a new one. 26. I thought the. Buffalo one they just put the last beam. in or something like Buffalo's on it. It. looks awesome, too. Yeah, it does look. awesome out there. How's the bison? Not. big enough. Not big enough. Yeah. You.

haven't even seen That's the problem. with modern junk. Don't need to see it. to know it ain't big enough. We're going. to try to do a show from underneath one. of those bison. Not enough for the. bison. I'll fit. I'm six. Huh? On top of. it. It's too tall. We're not going to be. able to be up here at win. Yeah. Okay. Like effect. It ain't too tall. It is. We could probably We could probably I'm. sure Debbuck could, you know, standing. two foot jump on top of those things. Well, Duck's a freak athlete. We get up.

I know. Debbone might be able to. standing two foot jump those things. I. don't think so. Agreed. I think so. I. just hope they're sturdy enough to hold. Debbone. I saw Debbone build. He He was a chair. in here yesterday. Locked in a dog. nimble. He was laying on his on his. belly. He He was Yeah, he was sick of. standing and using the top of the trash. cans. He's in the prone position. He was. laying down on his tummy. Did you see. that yesterday? He was down on his tummy. playing sticks. I did see that. Uh. Debbut basically helped uh Tim build.

part of that gazebo yesterday. I've seen. we're out there helping him hold up the. hold up the. be coming. Tim told me it's still. waiting to put steel up there. Flying everywhere. The sheet metal is. going to be flying around. We'll be back. tomorrow for a gazebo. We'll see what. the weather's going to be. I'll ask. Donardo. See if it'll be good. There's. Debo looking like he's a sniper, but. instead he was just building a lounge. chair, which I appreciate. I got sent. this photo out of nowhere. Looked at my. phone and said, "What the [ __ ] is this?".

Fell asleep. Deb fell asleep in the middle of it. Yeah. Fell asleep actually right there. That's why we got the photo. His chin is. rested on the back of the You did a. great job. Chairs look amazing. They uh. genuinely do. It's great to be back here. in the uh Thunderdome. It's been a while. since I've been here. Sacramento is far. It's great to have you back. Yesterday. was quite the show without you here. Yeah, let's just be honest. Well, I'm be. honest. When I was in Sacramento, I lost. service a couple times. Couldn't see. you. Couldn't hear you a few times. We'll get that all figured out. But. nonetheless, great to be back here in. the Thunderdome. Place looks good.

Thanks for holding it down. Thanks for. traveling out here, AJ. You're the man. And we'll be back tomorrow on this. Wrestlemania week. Huge weekend in Las. Vegas. I can't stress this enough. Hall. of Fame on Friday night. East Coast is. going to be tough to stay up. Sure. I. think it's it's going to be worth it. though. It is going to be worth it. Mhm. A lot of huge names. Triple H obviously. going in. Shawn Michaels inducting him. Undertaker's going to be there. Michelle. Mcool I believe. Bret Hart. Stone Gold. Steve Austin. Wow. Michael Cole. Yeah, it's about to be a who's who at that.

Hall of Fame. 1000 p.m. Pacific. Holy. [ __ ] Ladies and gentlemen, it has been. legitimized. Roman Reigns, I will be there live this. Friday, 9:15 a.m. So you and your. audience can acknowledge me in person. You got it, Roman. We will. We will. Always. We certainly will. Roman Reigns, we will acknowledge. You know, I almost. last night as I was sitting there and I. saw Roman kind of all by himself. I was.

like, I ain't going to let him know I'm. on his side. Yeah. I was thought about. putting it. Should. I'm with you, buddy. I don't know about. this guy, Paul Heymon. I don't know what. you're doing. I don't know where your. mind lies. Figure it out. I don't know. what it's all about. But I'll tell you. what, Roman, I appreciate everything. you've done for me. Think about what he. did for the business. Hardest time in. the history of the business. There's no. fans. None. Co era. Everything's done. It's over. Who came through? Roman. Reigns. The tribal chief. Carried the. company on his back. Took it to levels.

that it's never been before. We get a. multibillion dollar deal with Netflix. Why? Because our tribal chief showed up. He never asked for one favor. Not once he gets it done himself. Mhm. He ain't begging. No, he's going and. doing. He doesn't just talk the talk, he. walks the walk. And that's what it's all. about with our tribal chiefs. And we. will acknowledge Friday 9:15 a.m. local. Might as well be 4:00 a.m. in Vegas, 9:15 a.m. That is an early start time. We appreciate Roman and our tribal chief.

making the appearance. We hope you all. will join us. It'll be a good show. Those wrestling shows are absurd. They're fun. They. they will be a good show. Excited to see. the gimmicks. What you talking about? You'll see. I. got something up my sleeve. Really? For. Vegas or just for wrestling? Just for. wrestling. I don't give a [ __ ] about. Vegas. You cold single on? Not that I'm. not there for Vegas. I'm there for. [ __ ] Wrestlemania. It happens to be. I was going to say, yeah, it could hurt that it's in Vegas.

It could be in a parking lot in Odessa. Have we made any decisions? I agree. I. agree with what you're saying there. I. understand where you're going, especially from Odessa. But have we made. any decisions on what we're doing with. these blackjack tables and what we're. doing with the casinos? I know I we got. some reserved if we need them. Yeah. But. okay, that's not good news. Okay. We're. going to win. New Orleans. Bill's not. coming, right? Yeah. If I see Bill, I'm. going to shoot him in the head. I think. No, I think it's just Bill can't gamble. And if he does, he has to be at a.

different casino than anybody else. Different casino. Yeah. Like I don't. want to see I don't want to see Bill's. [ __ ] bulbous bald head anywhere near. me on the casino floor. Yeah, we need to. tink tink his hands so he can't hit, you. know. Yeah, exactly. We have to do it for him. He was making. some asinine plays. He's standing on. eight. He stood on eight. I was. disgusted. He was sitting right next to. me because you guys were obviously. saying all the things about him while I. was not there. And then I get there and. I'm like, why is everybody saying. everything about Bill? I'm like, good to.

see you, Bill. He's like, can I sit. here? Absolutely, Bill. because nobody. else will let him play. So then uh we. get about two hands into this thing and. I look at the decisions he's making. I'm. like, "What the [ __ ] is wrong with you?". Yeah, Bill. No human in the history of. gambling has ever done what you're. doing. You're giving yourself negative. chance to win. I think I got shot. You. don't. His money gets wiped out quicker. than anybody else. You would think he. would change because he's losing faster. than anybody. He's stubborn. Oh boy. He. is stubborn in his ways. His gimmick now.

making terrible decisions at the. blackjack. Sucks. It does suck to But I. I'll never play with him. I I actually. never have. I've only heard about it. You've only watched this one. Yeah. Yeah. I've only witnessed the madness of. Bill Mcome. It was just me and him at a. table at one time. Me having a dealer. and the dealer was even like Yeah. Jeez. He didn't close. Is this boy okay? Yeah. Foxy was good with it. Foxy, weren't you. cool with it? With Bill? Absolutely not. No, I was not cool with it. I thought. you were. I will say the last time we. gambled, I had a blackjack in the game. blackjack and the dealer looked me in.

the eyes and said, "You should double. down here." And I said, "I have a. blackjack. That makes absolutely no. sense. You should double down here." And. that's when I knew that New Orleans, they were just trying to take our money. They weren't even trying to help us out. What' you do? I took the blackjack and. took my money and I left the table and. looked in the eyes. That's what everyone. around me said. They didn't get me. though. Good move away. Take the money. when you can. Uh, how about AQ Shipley? He had it [ __ ] figured out, you. remember? Oh yeah, I found the two deck.

Play two decks. Yeah, if you do the. math, there's only 16 face cards and you. start talking about it, you got two of. us, 32. Once you start counting them, you Okay. Are you doing that? Oh, yeah. In real time, I go over there. His chips. are pretty quick. Disappearing. Oh yeah. I think it only took one deck. Mhm. There was two decks over there. Only. needed one to take all of AQ's money. You got to [ __ ] figure it out. What's. he been up to? There's eight aces in. this entire thing. Let's remember that. If you see one, go ahead and remind. yourself. Are you counting cards? Oh, yeah. Do you know how to count cards? I.

watched movie. Okay. Okay. He lost thousands over. there. Oh, yeah. Just thinking he had it. figured out. Fun though. What if the. dealer was like, "Okay, there is now. seven aces left like while dealing to. him." Some of those people have it. figured out though. Oh yeah. Like some. of those people are real weapons. Like. Dana, I guess Dana White is one of those. guys has it figured out. He'll go huge. and then he'll just bounce. He'll leave. That's why. Yeah, cuz he'll leave. He'll. get up and see you. He has it figured. out where I think it's like if we were.

to you put $10 down. If you lose 10, you. then put $20 down. If you lose 20, you. then put four. That's how he has it. figured out. Not all of us have those. funds like he does to market out that. way. Yeah. And he's been booted from a. few places because of his style and his. technique and his strategy. I've seen. somebody with that strategy with a. Gatorade bottle into a trash can. Oh, yeah. Yeah. It end up being like a. $35,000 trash can throw. Double or. nothing all the way. Those add up. They. certainly did. And then somebody was. like, "Just say no. Say no double or.

nothing." And the person that was. potentially on the beneficial side of. that was like, "Am I how am I supposed. to say no to this?" It's like, "Yeah, walk out of here with [ __ ] 17 and a. half thousand bucks right now." Nobody. ever says no. Inevitably, garbage can. gets hit. Nobody wins any money. But I. guess a blackjack, if you do that, he. could just keep going. Mhm. Why not? Then eventually because he said he was. going to get us our money back for the. uh YouTube suite. Yeah. He was like, "I'll get you a night. Just come over.". How much was it? 30 grand. Yeah. No. problem. Piece of cake. First hand.

$30,000. See, you won it. Yeah. See you. later. Get the [ __ ] out of here. [ __ ]. off. It's a good game. What's going on. at the sphere? Uh, is it dead in company? Yeah, I think. it is. Right. I'm pretty sure. Who? They. announced whoever's after them, though, too. I know. Kenny Chzn. I saw him. That's going to be awesome. I think so. I think what Kenny's concert is is good. for the sphere and I think it'll be a. very feelood good vibe. He understands. the sphere what it is. I I think he. wants to at least. Yeah. Which is good.

Depending on what's going on, I think we. should just think about [ __ ] the music. Let's do the, you know, immersive planet. Earth type experience. Okay. April 19th, the sphere uh experience postcard from. Earth. Yeah, that's the one. That's. Friday, though. Or that's Saturday. Yeah. 11:15 a.m. Okay. Boom. Just stopped by that. Got to do. WrestleMania. You're You're gonna be up. until 6:00 a.m. Eastern time on Friday. night. I don't think you're want I think.

you're going to want to sleep a little. bit. I did look at the itinerary. You. know, my wife is like, "Uh, okay. I'm. traveling out there for Wrestlemania. What is your schedule?" And I was like, "Do you have a. minute? Let me uh sit down. Let me go. ahead and run through this thing.". Friday we're pretty much Friday I Friday. we're doing it. Friday we're just on a. microphone from the moment you land this. basically. Yeah. And then Saturday, guess what? Wake up. That's cool. I'm. gonna take a shower probably. And then. guess what happens immediately after. that? Microphone. Cuz you don't show up.

uh you know just at showtime. You got be. there a few. Yeah. Yeah. Well, there's. countdown and then there's a kickoff. Yep. There's obviously uh like eight. hours before, but it's going to be nice. out. Not like Philly. Philly is [ __ ]. freezing. So, let's remember that also. when we're running through this. And. it's Vegas, so that you know, and it's. Wrestlemania. Yeah. Like, this is always. an honor to be a part of. Legitimately, anytime they ask me to be a part of. anything, I'm so incredibly grateful and. thankful for it. But I did start looking. at the itinerary and I'm. like, so is there time to breathe in.

here or No. Wrest Mania weekend. And. then we got Monday, our show there. Then. the Raw after Mania is always the most. absurd thing, you know. It's just like. uh Well, guess what's Well, guess what's. Thursday next week? Yeah. And then we. got the draft next Thursday, which is. good. Start of a new year. Yeah, that's. right. NFL. And then the week after that. day for that. The week after that, it's. your birthday, which we got a massive. thing happening in New York, which. should be sweet. And then the week after that is is great.

week. It's going to be a great week. Yeah. Then we got summer and then we're. ready to train camp. Boom. Let's live, baby. Honored and lucky to. do this. At some point, there's going to. come a time where none of these. opportunities are available. and uh I'm. going to be disappeared. You guys are. probably going to be taking over the. world and we're just going to be. watching from afar. The fact that we get. to be a part of any of this is uh so. incredibly cool. And there's not a. single moment where I don't look in the. mirror and think to myself, this is the. dumbest life of all time. But I always. end it with saying uh how appreciative.

and grateful I am for every opportunity. because whenever I was a little boy, obviously this is only things that I. could dream of. So we will travel out to. Las Vegas. We will enjoy the hell out of. all of it. incredibly lucky to be a part. of the biggest weekend in sports. entertainment in professional wrestling. And then next week, the draft begins a. whole new round of holy [ __ ] what are. they going to do? Can't wait for that. And then inevitably, football's going to. happen. And then we're going to have an. NBA champion. And we're going to have a. lordos in the cup champion. And we're. going to have an MLB World Series. And. then we're going to have magic happening.

all around us that we can't help. ourselves from saying, "Thank God we're. alive." Be a friend. Tell a friend. something nice. It might change your. life. We're in a sing together. Team on. me. Team on three. We'll see you. tomorrow. One, two, three. Goodbye.