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been 207 days since the Super Bowl where. we saw the Philadelphia Eagles become. world champions in a dominating fashion. over the Kansas City Chiefs. Now, tonight they will have their banner. celebration as they host the Dallas. Cowboys in an 8 and 12 point spread. Kickoff to an NFL season that is going. to be the greatest in the history of the. National Football League. Dak Prescott. and the boys head into the city of. brotherly love to take on Jaylen Herz,

an offensive line that has been touted. as the greatest of all time. And Seaquan. Barkley with coach Serriani locked in. for the future. Are the Philadelphia. Eagles in the middle of building a. dynasty? We shall see if they kick off. in a great way tonight. So many. storylines, so many things to talk. about, so many things to be excited. about because tomorrow, Chiefs and. Chargers down in Brazil, we get Patrick. Mahomes, Justin Herbert, Travis Kelce, Taylor Swift, future husband. >> That's right. >> Mhm. >> And Jim Harbaugh all on television for. something that matters. And then.

Saturday is going to be a packed day of. college football greatness. And then. Sunday, we have a full slate and we have. >> Scott Hansen in the Red Zone channel all. the way back. Now, we made some news. yesterday. We had Scott Hansen on the. show. Got a chance to see the setup that. he has behind the scenes, the green. screen, the podium that he stands at. >> Turns out there was no bottle or. catheter in there. >> That's right. >> Looked like there was a tube down at the. bottom. >> Something weird. >> that he may be peed into, but he. promised that it was just for electrical. purposes to keep maybe a light on the.

podium or whatever. But he confirmed. that there would no longer be 7 hours of. commercial free football starts now. It. will actually be 7 hours of red zone. football starts now. Obviously, that. became a firestorm across a football. viewers uh world on the internet. A lot. of people were saying they're pissed off. about that. I responded to Scott Hansen. was saying we don't care. Now, when I. said we, I did think that I was speaking. for a large portion of people, but when. I said we don't care, what I meant was. we're still going to watch. >> We're still going to watch. And the only.

reason why I say that is because they. started rolling in advertisements in uh. uh red zone channel last year. Started. with Lraps. They had Christian McCaffrey. out there looking cool. And as soon as I. saw the Christian McCaffrey LR wrap on. there, which every once in a while we'll. do here on this commercial free Pat. McAfee show that happens every single. day whenever we're live Monday through. Friday hourong commercial free. But if. you look right around us here. >> that would be considered an. advertisement. >> That's right. So, I think what had. happened was whenever the Red Zone. Channel started running this, which is.

run by the NFL, by the way, I was called. an ESPN and a Disney show for saying, "We don't care about the commercials. being added." What I don't think I said. properly was obviously it's not as good. if we're adding commercials. Whenever it. was just pure with no commercials and we. had paid for an upgrade of a product so. we don't have to see commercials, that. was better. But as soon as they started. seeing a little bit of money from those. LRAPS, I think all of us that have seen. or been around the NFL for a long time. just assumed that the commercials would. be on the way. I was calling ESPN a. Disney show for saying that. Look, look. at this tweet. I mean, look look at this.

tweet that I miss you. I miss when you. weren't paid by ESPN to lie, says Kenny. with a middle finger to me. Okay, with a. middle finger. There was thousands of. those calling me. >> ESPN and Disney don't even have. >> Red Zone Channel next year. They I don't. I think it's two years they might not. even have it. So ESPN and Disney aren't. even involved with the Red Zone channel. at this exact moment with this. commercial being added. It would. actually I think be Google in YouTube. TV. So unless Disney called Google and. YouTube TV and say hey can you guys add. uh commercial so that when we get it in.

a couple years when our show this show. right here might not even be with ESPN. and Disney whenever the time comes for. Red Zone to be with ESPN and Disney. So. that would be like Google would be the. one making that decision if you thought. it was the advert or the the networks. that were making the decision. The red. zone is an NFL operated thing. The NFL. is the one deciding who's doing that. They are just licensing the content. that's coming through. So, I was. attacked a lot of different ways. I'm. out of touch. Okay. Cuz I say I don't. care about it. It's like what I meant to. say is we'll still watch. >> Sure.

>> Cuz we will. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Mhm. >> Don't get it twisted. The Red Zone now. they're saying it's going to be a. playthrough method where they're going. to run a commercial while you're still. gonna be able to see everything. happening on the right side. Golf. started doing this a lot. Yep. >> A lot of the playthrough stuff. Brian. Rolapat, former head of the media of. NFL, now actually the uh president of. the PGA or the chairman, I forget his. title, whatever. He has moved over to. the PGA, big golf fan. So maybe there is. a a playth through type situation that's. happening. So I'd like to apologize for. saying we don't care. Uh and pseudo.

representing a lot of people, what I. meant was we're going to watch. And if. you had a brain, you knew the NFL was. going to do this. And me shilling for. ESPN or Disney, that's interesting. Just. listen to the show kind of every single. day. The toxic table's here at plus. Connor and at Tai Schmidt, one half of. the Hammer Cowboys AP Tone is here. Connor, I'm going to start with you, buddy. >> Mhm. >> You've been floating as you've been. rolling around this Thunderdome. You. woke up this morning just singing a. different tune. You were flapping your. wings pretty damn good. What an exciting. day. 207 days since last time we got to.

say there's an actual NFL football game. That one was a Super Bowl. This one. kicking off the greatest season of all. time. It's a beautiful day, Con man. >> Yeah, it's the best. And really, nothing. can bring me down today. You know, I. drove into work this morning and I was. feeling great. Had the windows down. I. thanked a soldier for his service. He. told me basically, "Shut up because the. way I look," which I, if you could. picture in the morning, I also had. purple sunglasses on. So, I was really. feeling myself. And I got all the happy. dogs on cuz it just feels like this is. what today's all about. The more I. thought about football coming back, it's.

just the more you think about the. emotion of the game. You know, it sucks. when your team is terrible. You know, it. sucks when your team you think should be. better. And it's great when your team is. amazing and it feels as though everyone. on this stage, everyone in the back, everyone in this building, everyone in. the world thinks that their team can be. good this year right now. Hopefully, >> the Athletic actually put out a optimism. uh meter and they pulled a bunch of uh.

NFL fans from around the league and. asked them, you know, if they're. optimistic or pessimistic. up there. Broncos fans, 99% uh optimistic. Now, once again, these are people that signed. up to do this survey. >> Sure. >> Probably very active on the internet if. I had to guess. And also very active. fans online. Broncos most optimistic. Philadelphia Eagles 98%. We'll see if. that continues. >> Yeah, >> we like the way Philadelphia Eagles fans. kind of easy come, easy go. What have. you done for me in the last 10 minutes. type fan base? Remember the last time. they had a banner night in Philadelphia? Team was getting booed into halftime.

>> That's right. >> You won a Super Bowl last year. What. have you done for me this first half? Nothing. That could happen again. Nick. Cerrieri is saying he didn't even know. it was banner night because he doesn't. want any of the distractions. Love that. their fans are at 98% riding high of the. Super Bowl World Championship. You. should do that. Buccaneers, they love. Baker down there. >> Ravens good. Lions good. Bill's good. Rams, they were like, "Hey, everybody's. talking about how great the Philadelphia. Eagles were. How about us last year in. the playoffs? We were one possession. away from beating the Philadelphia. Eagles and ruining that entire story.". Chiefs fans, I feel like always going to. be optimistic with Andy Reid, Pat.

Mahomes, and them. Texans fans back up. there. We had a bad year last year. That's not going to happen again. Vikings, Bears fans, okay, outside of. Chicago, I don't know if there's as much. optimism inside Chicago. Love that there. is optimism. Seahawks fans, never talk. about Seattle. We appreciate that you. guys are jacked up. Patriots fans, we. see that the 19% I think are just. naturally always going to be a 19%. around the city of Boston in the New. England area. >> Yeah, that's what I was going to say. >> There's always going to be a 20% group. of people that are like, nah, [ __ ] ain't. good. Like that's going to happen. I. think uh then you just start rolling. through the rest of the list. Who's down. there at the bottom? >> Oh, no. Oh, shoot.

>> 93% pessimistic Indianapolis Colts fans. Come on. >> I will say the people that are taking. these surveys, uh, I think are probably. big time believers, >> okay? >> Cuz we ran into a lot of these people. not from Indianapolis. They picked up. the Colts as their team. I think because. Anthony Richardson came here and how. exciting Anthony Richardson was going to. be. Young group of Colts fans. I don't. think they know a lot about anything. that has happened before or didn't. experience it before, but they were very. passionate and we respected and. appreciated that. And then uh when it. goes the way it goes with AR and. everything kind of happens, they get.

very pissed off at everybody else but. AR. Sure. You know, so they're mad at. obviously Chris Ballard. They're mad at. Coach Stiken for not developing him. They're mad at ownership of the. building. So obviously I think they are. very upset with the Indianapolis Colts. as a whole. And hey, I don't think the. Colts have done a lot over the past I. don't know how many years that should. say you should be that optimistic. But I. think there is certainly a group of fans. that would definitely take an online. survey that would say this Colts team's. the dumbest franchise in history because. they potentially believe that AR was. going to be the greatest quarterback of. all time. and he could put me down as a.

believer at the beginning sure and at. the end in the middle when I was hearing. things the way it was going I wasn't. necessarily all in still young still has. a chance but Colts fans that jumped on. board because of him they certainly. think that everything's downhill Danny. Dimes knows that 93%'s betting against. him. >> exactly. >> same with the Forest Buckner and the. boys but what we're saying is all these. teams no matter how optimistic their. fans are all have a chance to go win a. Super Bowl one half of the hammer. Cowboys AP Tone is here your Pittsburgh. Steelers have a chance this year it. feels like got to beat the Jets. >> oh yeah beat the. >> Got to beat the Jets Justin Fields and.

the Jets got to beat the Jets week one. Aaron Rogers is locked in. He's giving. interviews talking about just the next. game. It's first game. Let's keep it. moving. Let's talk about tonight's game. Eight and a half point spread. That's. big. That feels very big for an opening. night, especially a banner night. Something that could play a little ky. What are the people on right now? And. why do you think it's so big? >> Yeah, so it opened uh this summer at. seven, which which you know was a. classic, you know, Super Bowl hosting a. team that wasn't didn't make the. playoffs. Seven felt good. Uh a lot of. people early were on the Eagles. It got. bet up to eight and a half. It's kind of. settled in there now. 62% of the people. are on the Eagles. It was as high as 80%.

at one point. So there has been some. Cowboys money coming in as of late. I. think it's just we I mean we looked at. the graph right there and like yes. that's the fan base, but that's also the. total NFL fan base. I I feel like right. now just because of what's everything. that's happened over the offseason. Everyone is still very very high on the. Eagles and very very down on the Cowboys. because of everything that's happened. with Michael Parsons, everything like. that. So yeah, everyone majority is on. the Eagles tonight. Eight and a half. It's that's a hefty line. It's a heavy. line for sure. >> Yeah. Opening night eight and a half is. crazy. A lot of people would say, why.

would you pick the Cowboys to be the. Eagles opponent on opening night if it's. going to be more than a one-sore spread. in the sports book's eyes? And Jerry. Jones would say because because. >> right. >> because you do put the Cowboys on. opening night if you can. If you haven't. been seeing the documentary, yeah, if. there's a division game that's going to. be a kickoff opening of the NFL season, the Cowboys are going to be in it. You're welcome. And the sports book say, well, that's good, but it's not going to. be a one-sore game. eight and a half. point spread is how it's going to look. And I know that the Philadelphia Eagles.

are obviously the best team on paper and. in the NFL right now. So I don't want to. say they're North Carolina, but. everybody at that game was talking about. North Carolina. North Carolina. North. Carolina. North Carolina. TCU had a lot. to pull from. Sunonny Dykes had a lot to. pull from. That entire team had a lot of. chips on their shoulder and they just. steamrolled UNC. Is there a chance that. this Dallas Cowboys team, who's been. viewed as the dumbest team in the NFL, Kenny Clark has been brought in there. Who cares? What What does that even What.

does that even mean? Mike is the only. player that matters to this team is how. Shotty could spell this. That is how he. could spin this to his team. It's like. eight and a half is a lot of points for. any NFL game, let alone an opener with a. division rival. Now, Shotti's first time. doing Thursday night football, first. time as a head coach, obviously kicking. off the entire season. Sirriani is three. and one on Thursday nights. Uh I believe. 4-0 in openers. >> Jayen Herz is four and0. >> Jayen Herz is 4-0 in openers. So there's. a lot of stats saying that the. Philadelphia Eagles should be good. Now. being an opening Thursday night, I don't.

think it's the same as like a middle of. the season Thursday night cuz you only. have four days to prepare. This one you. had 207 days. Okay, that is literally. how long he had to prepare for this. particular game. So it's tough to look. at what stat matters the most. But like. this Philadelphia Eagles team loaded and. the Dallas Cowboys have been told that. and they've also been told that they. don't matter because number 11's out of. the building and he's in Green Bay. A. lot of motivation potentially from the. Cowboys tie. >> Yeah. I mean talking about it in in. terms of like the parallel with North. Carolina I think is good because that's. like a bunch of college kids who we. don't we have no idea like and have.

never seen them play like the Cowboys. have a lot of good players on their team. still. So it is interesting that it's. like you lose Micah Parsons and it's. like he's the worst team in the NFL. These guys are going to get killed. They. have Dak, they have CD, they have George. Pickkins, Kenny Clark, you mentioned. him. Like they still have a lot of good. players. So yeah, we don't see this in. an NFL game very often, at least going. into it. Like you like you mentioned, everyone understands how good the Eagles. are, but like a lot of people thought. the Cowboys before the uh you know, the. trade of Micah, a lot of people were.

picking them to win the division and go. deep in the playoffs. So it's like let's. not sleep on the Cowboys. They're. obviously still very talented. Yeah, their fans are sleeping on them because. if you go by the athletic, I think. Cowboys had the third lowest optimism. rate from their fans, which could also. just be people on the internet saying. they're Cowboys fans, saying this team's. ass, this team's ass. You know, you. never know what's real and what isn't. whenever you have anonymous surveys. But. I think it is pretty telling on how. people feel about the team as a total. And Dallas Cowboys, everybody's out on I. mean, we turn on TV and we were. included. Jerry Jones, this guy's the.

dumbest guy of all time. >> No doubt. Two first rounders and Kenny. Clark. And people are saying to Kenny. Clark, Kenny Clark, >> long in the two. >> Yeah, exactly. >> Two first rounders. >> What? >> Yeah, right. You got a dumb guy running. a team. You got no talent on a team. And. you got a head coach that has no idea. what he's doing. That is literally what. has been said about the Cowboys. Now, if. the Eagles come out, then just smack the. Cowboys around. >> Yeah, possible. >> Which is certainly possible. >> Eagles have done that to teams in the. past. And what they can do with their. front four, the Philadelphia Eagles.

defense, they can make any team look. stupid. anytime. You could have the best. pass game in in the entire league. If. their front four are just destroying. your offensive line, it doesn't matter. You might have a great run game, but if. those two Jaylen Carter and the boys in. the middle just two gap and hold that. thing up, you have no run game. It's. like if those front four want to. demolish and destroy your offense, they. can do that. And they have proven that. time and time again. Will tonight be a. night that they can? We shall see. And. then whenever you think about the. offense, it's like that offensive line. is still the Philadelphia Eagles.

offensive line, right? Oh yeah. >> And Landon Dickerson was full. participant in practice. Right. >> We'll talk to Shaft here in about a. minute or two to see what the update is. on him. But if that offensive line's. back that's been around and if Saquon. Barkley's back happy cuz he got paid, right? They paid him two years early and. Jaylen Herz is now Super Bowl champion. It's like they could be very confident. bunch walking onto that field. It's like. Philadelphia Eagles could just smack the. Dallas Cowboys around and then tomorrow. morning. >> Jerry's the dumbest of all time. Oh. yeah. Oh my god. It is going to be.

incredibly loud. That's why this is a. perfect kickoff to the NFL season in my. eyes. >> Yeah. So juiced. Uh but you brought up. the Cowboys defense like Ebloo being. there I would assume helps definitely to. start. But without Micah, they still. have Diggs and Bland at corner. That's. got to be one of the better cornerback. duos in the NFL. Kenny Clark, people. saying he's long in the tooth. He's got. to be the most angry guy in America. because he essentially got the uh. Anthony Davis treatment during the Luca. trade except even more so because the.

team that he's going to is so stupid for. doing what they did and he's the guy. that is getting traded for. Like that. adds into it too. It just feels like the. college thought as well. Like if this. was a college spread and it was eight. and a half points, you could kind of see. it. But it the NFL spreads being that. much anytime I or not anytime because. sometimes those 14 point spreads and the. Lions will beat you know some dog [ __ ]. team by 50. But these big spreads in. these big games in a divisional game it.

just never feels like they get covered. >> Uh it's the. >> Sorry. >> Sorry. >> Yeah, that's all right. >> We got I had to crack open a can so you. don't want to on air. Uh it is the. biggest spread of the weekend. >> It is the biggest spread of the weekend. >> Week one normally KG affairs. >> Yeah. Normally people trying to feel it. out early, but will the Philadelphia. Eagles try to feel it out? Oh, will they. go for it? There's a clip coming out of. NFL Films uh uh America's Game 2024, I. forget what they call it. Uh there's a. clip coming out though of Jaylen Herz.

and Nick Serriani. Uh on basically the. dagger of the game, the play call was. dagger and uh Philadelphia. Uh tell me. if this sounds familiar. Guess who. called the play basically. Go ahead, run. it, Foxy. I go to coachi on Thursday. practice and I pretty much just give him. this list and I'm like, "Hey, I'm just. letting you know, you know, like you call these, something good is. going to happen." And um. the dagger was on that.

I go into the coach's office at halftime. and I get an opportunity to talk with. him oneonone. Coach Siriani and I say, "Hey, don't forget about, you know, the dagger. Don't forget about. it.". You come up with these plays together. You talk through things for hours for a. 5-second play. It is cool just to think. about all the preparation that went into. getting that call at the right time.

>> We scor Yeah. I don't just just call it. just call it. >> I see the video him saying just call it. and it you know that excites me. >> The confidence to call it the execution. being able to put the dagger in the game. and end it. >> The Eagles get it back. Looking to run. some clock or maybe throw the dagger. Herds going deep for it all. Devonte. Smith. He has got it. Touchdown. >> Almost gets closed on right here. Watch. this.

>> Yeah. >> From the call to the protection, from the pass to the catch, the dagger was how you win pretty. >> Great quote. How long will they value? They can't. with you. You're that man. They can't with you, though. >> How about that? Huh? Listen to the. offensive lineman talking to Jaylen in.

the Super Bowl. By the way, I assume all. that has carried over. Joining us now, senior insider for the NFL at ESPN, ladies and gentlemen, Adam Shfter. >> I just got like chills watching that. back yet again because, you know, an. entire season leads to that moment and. then you hear about the finer details. You can't help but love the sport of. football in the NFL. Tonight, Landon. Dickerson, I guess, is big question. there for that offensive line that. obviously is a pivotal piece of the. Philadelphia Eagles offense. full. participant yesterday, I do believe. couple weeks ago he was drinking beers.

with the Cleveland Browns offensive. lineman. Thought that was an indicator. that he's going to be back. Where do we. stand with him and what about the health. around the Eagles as a whole? >> Well, he's off the injury report. He's. going to be out there tonight. I don't. think there's any quick out there. tonight. It's amazing because we go back. to the night he was hurt. He was hurt in. a practice at the link. It was a late. night practice and everybody went down. and I remember Eagles fans being. desponded like they may have just lost. this behemoth of an offensive lineman, maybe the best guard in all of football.

to a season ending knee injury. That was. the fear at the time. He went, he had. knee surgery, arthoscopic surgery, got. it cleaned up, and a month later or so, he's going to be out there tonight. Is. he going to be at full strength? I would. guess not. but he's going to be out. there playing just as he played in the. playoffs last year when he wasn't. healthy, just as a lot of these. offensive linemen do when they're not. fully healthy. And Landon Dickerson will. be out there trying to open holes for. Saquon Barkley against a Cowboys defense. that has struggled against the run in. the past and has made a move that we've.

heard a little bit about in the last. week to try to upgrade that with the. addition of Kenny Clark. >> That's literally all Jerry kept saying. is I know we're going to run the ball. We're playing against the Green Bay. Packers. We're going to try to get the. lead. We're going to run the ball. Okay, that's what we're going to try to do. Jerry Jones has been very adamant about. not being able to stop the run and. saying, "Hey, that's what we have to. do." Ibraflu's first year back. How's. the defense responding to him behind the. scenes and what should we expect from. Kenny Clark who's probably highly. motivated to uh make a great first. impression here with how much he's kind. of been cast aside. >> Yeah. Well, I think that's where the.

Cowboys hope is, right? that Matt Eberlu. has done a really good job in the past. with defenses and he can come in and. implement his scheme and his system and. you hope for the type of improvement. that Dallas has been seeking. And again, when Jerry sat down after the Micah. trade to explain his thinking on it, that was really one of the big takeaways. is that they felt like they really had. to do something with their run defense. And it was interesting because they. didn't really draft anybody in that area. till I believe the seventh round. So, if. it was such a priority now, it should.

have probably been in April as well. And. they didn't address it the way they. wanted to or needed to in the draft. So, by trading for Kenny Clark, they feel. like they got a run stopper. And you. know, of course, I think Matt Ilu knows. Nick Serriani well. I you guys would. know this probably better than me. I'm. guessing this off the top of my Hey, weren't they both coordinators in. Indianapolis at the same time together? >> Yeah. Frank. >> Yeah. Sir and Illeuth. So, they they. know the way that each other thinks. pretty well. and Ibra will be up to uh.

in implementing his system and it's up. to him to make sure that this Dallas. defense which was really poor last year. is much better. And look, they've been. worried about their run defense. They'll. find out tonight cuz they're going up. against a team that runs the football. about as well as any in the league. >> Yeah. Better than anybody in the history. of the NFL, most rush yards for an. offense uh after Super Bowl. Obviously, you got to count the playoffs and. everything like that in the history of. the NFL for Saquon Barkley. And also, if. you were to just account for Saquon. Barkley's yards before contact last. year, he would have been a top five.

rusher in the NFL. So, saying that they. got to stop the run is not just because. they feel like that's a weakness for the. team. That is also the strength of the. team in their division who is currently. the Super Bowl champion. I remember. stories from back in the day. Houston. Texans took Mario Williams over Reggie. Bush and the GM uh Charlie Casserly, he. got fired and he said the reason why he. got fired is because he drafted Mario. over Reggie Bush, but he said Reggie. Bush isn't tackling Payton Manning. I'm. trying to beat the Indianapolis Colts. I'm not trying to do anything else. I'm.

trying to win the division to get into. the dance. So, I got Mario instead of. Reggie and nobody, the fans didn't. really care. They didn't want to hear. that. But that is really how a lot of. these people who are putting teams. together think is if we win our. division, we're in the dance. We get in. the dance, we're good. Who's at the top. of our division? Oh, the best in the. world. And they run the rock all over. the place. I can respect Jerry Jones. saying that. I think he could have got. another one. I I think he could have. >> I think he could have lean. Yeah, I. think he could have got a little lean on. him at the very end. Hey, you give me.

one more one. This deal's done. You. know, but. >> Well, you know, you say that. It's. funny. I had somebody call me yesterday. They're like, "You're going to tell me. that Jerry Jones at the last moment had. said to Green Bay, okay, you're giving. us two ones at Kenny Clark, you know, to. close this out, we need another three. We need another three. >> Another one.". >> Green Bay would Oh, that they would have. thrown it in. >> Yes, definitely. That's I actually said. the exact words this morning as I was in. here. It was like Jerry maybe has lost. his fast ball because at the very end, everybody's happy. We're almost close to. a deal getting done. Ba da and then it's.

like second gets this thing done right. now. Actually, another one gets this. deal done right now. We're going to. throw this away over one. You guys got a. deal done with Micah. You already got. that figured out. We already got the. other assets figured out. One more one. three years from now. That ain't going. to be. >> Well, I don't know if they would have. gotten three ones, Pat, but I I think at. that moment you you you make a request. for one more pick. I The way that. somebody explained to me was I would. have asked for a third. And I I think. that that's plausible. You want to ask. for something, but not a ridiculous. amount. You have the trade in play. Hey.

guys, to close, I I need another three. I'm talking about my people. Just throw. in another three and we'll close it out. Mike is yours. >> Okay. So, there was also a report that. uh another team was involved. I think. that was Was that you that reported. that? I'm not 100% sure. And it was the. Eagles. The Eag Howie calls in and goes, "Uh, hey, heard you have a problem over. there. Didn't know if you wanted to. trade them in a division. Is that real?". >> That's real. And yeah, I report the. sport. Basically, the the way I. understand this is is that the Eagles.

definitely were in on Micah. Now, again, I want to be very clear. I don't think. the Dallas Cowboys ever were going to. trade him, but that was not for a lack. of effort from the Philadelphia Eagles. And there are a few things that I found. really interesting about it. Number one, there are a lot of teams out there that. say, "Look, we'd love Micah. We just. can't afford it. We can't make it. happen." Well, here's the Philadelphia. Eagles who have paid Jaylen Herz, who. have paid Saquon Barkley, who have paid. AJ Brown, who have paid Devonte Smith,

who have paid people on their defense. like Zack Vaughn, and they're saying, "You know what? I I I know we can't pay, but we're going to it's Micah Parsons, and we're going to find a way to pay.". And I don't know what they would have. done, but I think it's common sense to. think we're just talking about what the. Green Bay Packers wound up giving up to. the Dallas Cowboys. Two ones in Kenny. Clark. I don't know the Eagles specific. offer, but I would bet anything it was a. richer, more lucrative offer than what. the Green Bay Packers offered because it.

had to be because if the Eagles were. even going to get the Cowboys to think. about trading him in the division, which. I don't think they would have done for. the record, it was going to be an an. offer that the Cowboys. >> wouldn't say no to. And even then, they. would have said no probably. So, uh, yes, the Eagles tried. The Eagles tried. on Mike, but they were told no. >> Jerry, I gotta catch you. I mean, in the. division, no way. We got to go double. everything if you do that in the. division. Especially with the rivalry, you know, the Eagles Cowboys rivalry.

over the years. Cowboys fans would I. mean, it was loud to begin with going to. the Packers, you know. Yeah. >> If that if Michael would have ended up. with the Philadelphia Eagles. Oh, man. >> It would have been. >> I love that how he's just snooping. around though. Hey, how's everything? What do you got going on down there, Jar? Everything okay? It I don't know. what hotel you're staying in. Whenever. you come up for opening night, I got a. new place to open up. I think it'll be. great. Also, Micah, what are we You guys. moving on from Jerry going I can't I. can't no way can I Well, what if we. >> I mean, you imagine Micah back in.

Pennsylvania where he grew up playing. with Saquon Barkley. I mean, >> they'd riot. >> on that Dline with that Dline already. I. mean, it would be. >> they would go to. >> This is Kevin Durant heading to Golden. State. You know that that is a uh. >> cuz he'll just be able to do whatever he. wants on that defense. >> Him and Jaylen Carter. >> Hey, we'll take care of everything else. You He's not good against the run. Uh. okay. >> Yeah. Don't even. >> That's not why you're here. You just got. to go go do whatever you need to do. It. is a uh that would have been insane if. that would happen in the division.

Obviously, it didn't. Green Bay Packers. now have Michael Parsons. How will that. work out? We shall see. We'll talk to. coach Mike McCarthy in the second hour. Can't wait to catch up with him on his. thoughts on everything. Tone has a. question for you. Chef Dy. >> Yeah, Chef Dy. Another pass rusher got. paid this morning. Nick Bonito got a. 4-year extension. 120 million. 70. million guaranteed. We were talking a. little earlier before the show that 70. million guaranteed, 120 total. Is quite. the discrepancy. Do we know anything. about the situation there as far as. incentives or anything like that? And. then also, do you know any other team.

besides the Denver Broncos that everyone. is so high on coming into this season? >> Well, they they certainly are one of. these picks that's a little bit trendy. and a little bit hot right now. And I. think part of the reason they're hot and. trendy is because they have done such a. great job of keeping their own players. They give Bonito that deal. Uh it comes. out to be the highest paid. non-quarterback in Broncos franchise. history. They went and paid Courtland. Sutton this off season this summer. They. went and paid Zack Allen. So they've.

kept their core guys that have been. important to this team. Again, there are. some people that are picking them and. when you're in a division with the. Chiefs, everybody usually an underdog. So, you know, here's you here's where. you could pick a great team and you say, "Okay, well, they're an underdog to. Kansas City. They're in division with. Jim Harbaugh and the Chargers. Harbaugh. five games." So, I mean, that division. is loaded. And the a and the other team. is coached by Pete Carol who will become. the oldest coach in NFL history on. Sunday when he goes up against the.

Patriots. It's it's a great division and. the Broncos have done all the things. they want and and again I don't know the. specific specific incentives to but I I. would just say this. >> that's a lot. >> Yeah, it's 70 million guaranteed. So, you know, read into that whatever you. want. Like I'm sure maybe the deal isn't. exactly but it's it's it's going to be a. damn strong deal. And these owners in. Denver, Greg and Carrie Penner, they are. going to make their mark and they are. going to be around a long time. And they.

are going to be amongst the best owners. in not only in just football, but in all. of sports. And the pockets that they. have that enable these deals to happen. Um, they're building their own training. facility. They're going to get a stadium. built there in Denver. These people are. big time. Big time. And they're going to. mean a lot to that city and that. franchise. >> Walmart. pretty pretty good little. business. >> Yeah, not bad. >> Yeah, it ended up being okay, didn't it? >> Yep. He's slashing prices. >> The Walton family, that is the daughter,

I do believe, who you just referred to, who is acting owner of the Denver. Broncos. I'm happy they're investing in. football. I like that. I appreciate the. fact that they're investing in the NFL. Uh we also saw there was maybe 106. million in total from Spo, but he had a. year left on his contract. That's still. a lot of incentive based money, you. know, like I I I'm excited to see. >> there's a lot of ways you could look at. this and and I know Tone asked that. question and I saw last night we. reported that the Niners sweetened Jawan. Jennings deal and I want to bring that. up for Tone on purpose because I think.

it's a situation like that and there's. the deal. Basically, >> Jawan Jennings had wanted a new deal. He's going into the last year 49ers. offered a multi-year deal. He opted to. take this particular arrangement which. is three million more of incentives this. year which could boost his salary to. about 10.5 million which is still for. number one receiver a great deal for the. Niners but if he balls out this year. he's going to crush it on the free agent. market and have a chance to really get. paid. But I bring up this deal for Tone.

because I wonder I wonder if the people. in Pittsburgh. >> Yeah, of course. >> paying attention. Yeah. Well, people in. Pittsburgh are looking for a wide. receiver anyway they can get it. But. whenever you talk about that Jawan. Jennings deal, that's three million in. incentives. That's a lot. Three million. is a lot in incentives based each year. 5 million a lot. Over $10 million in. incentives each year is crazy. That that. is that is a crazy number. Like I I'm. what cure cure cancer? Like what what is.

the cure COVID. >> 35 sacks? what it like 10 million is a. lot of money in cuz he kept saying up to. up to up to I think that was AJ's first. reaction whenever he read the thing up. to like that's a lot of money $50. million that's being reported is a lot. of money that's almost 100 I mean what. is it 80% of what. >> but no but you know no defensive player. gets his full deal guaranteed so um. million up to 120 70 guaranteed. >> I mean I I. >> 70's good 70's good I just didn't know.

if we knew the incentives you got to win. a Super Bowl you got to have three. touchdowns will be in the details. The. devil will be in the details, but. >> couple pick sixes. >> be a strong deal. >> Need a pick six in the Super Bowl to. pick up two and a half million. You need. like that 10 million is a lot of money. Nick Bonito is certainly a game record. And I don't love that this was the first. highlight. >> Sure. I mean, that just got run every. single time. >> Such a good read. >> Okay. Rookie, he didn't know what he was. looking at. A guy popped up out of. nowhere. He's that Troy Paul Mad Reed. out there. Who the hell is this guy? Why. would you do that? >> No, it's Nick Bonito out of Oklahoma and. he's a dog and he just got paid 70. million guaranteed. Shfter, was some of.

these players, did they have to tell. them last year like, "Hey, we're so. strapped for cash because of the dead. cap, like you need to wait till next. year and we'll take care of you.". >> Uh, well, which players are you talking. about? Broncos. >> Yeah, Broncos. Like Courtland Sutton, Zack Allen, like all these guys, they. paid a lot of them, you know, vet. leaders. Is that why they. >> This is the choice that I think all. teams make, right? like you you try to. figure out when is the best time to sign. your guys and and the price if you wait. and the guy performs and he stays. healthy usually goes up and and look by.

the way let's look at it at the flip. side too right sometimes it goes the. other way Elijah Beer Tucker is going to. be a free agent here and he tears his. triceps in practice on Tuesday it's not. ideal so now you know when you're Elijah. Ver Tucker next year in the free agent. market you're probably have to sign a. deal a one-year deal and get back to. that point and then try to hit the free. agent market again in 27. So, uh, sometimes it makes sense for players to. wait, sometimes it makes sense for. players to sign an extension.

Everybody's different. You have to. factor in the player, their history, what the offer is. There's a lot of. different factors at play. There's no. simple answer to any of that. >> There's also what, 60 million in dead. cap for the Broncos last year or. whatever. Yeah. Because. >> by the way, that's probably a big part. of why they had to wait to pay these. guys because Russell Wilson was getting. his lion share of that. And and by the. way, I think there's still money left. over now this year on Russell Wilson. >> 32 32 million. Good. Hey, good question. though, Con man. >> Yeah, I'm trying to get to the bottom of.

the you know. Uh any other. >> excellent insight from Pat bringing up. that was very good, Pat. >> Oh, thank you. Yeah, we try to do a. little bit of that around here, you. know, try do a little bit of something. People don't believe it, but we try to. do we're just a Disney show for. something that isn't on ESPN for two. years when we might not be on ESPN at. the time that that is even happening for. Red Zone Ch. What are your thoughts on. the Red Zone news? The commercial I. accidentally said we don't care without. context of like we're still going to. watch whenever they put the play through. red zone uh commercials in there. LRAP.

and play through commercials is what. they're saying. Obviously would be. better without any of that. Sure. >> Give me the Give me the Give me the. [ __ ] Yes. >> Give me the full [ __ ] But we you've. been around the NFL how long now? >> Uh this is my 35th or 36th year covering. the league since 1990. >> Okay. So you've been around the league. for 36 years. I grew up in Pittsburgh, which is NFL town. Had a very lucky. opportunity to be a part of it. Feel. like my brain operates in like a little. bit more of a business fashion than some. people. So, as soon as I saw the NFL get. a little bit of cash from those LRAPS on.

that red zone channel last year, I was. like, "Oh, they are starting to oh, that. is starting to it was they were. definitely going to put something in. there is what my thoughts were." But I'm. just the NFL makes the decision to. charge for the what or to put in the. cor. It's not ESPN. It's the NFL. >> It's not on ESPN for two years. >> This happened last year, too. >> Yeah, it was happening last year as. well. So, it's like the amount of things. that I had said to me that were very, very rude. I would like to let everybody. know they're very rude, but I'm built. for it. I'm supposed to take these. things, I guess, cuz I.

>> I guess cuz I signed up for this. I'm. supposed to just be told things that. aren't true and terrible about myself on. a regular basis. But it's like I did say. we don't care. We do care. We would much. rather it not be in existence, but we're. still going to watch. Like I guess. people are saying they're not going to. watch. It's like, okay, >> prove it. >> Okay. I I'll Red Zone has become a. necessity basically, which is why it's. the most ingenious concept that the NFL. or any sport has really come up with. And I do think that people are such big. fans of it like we are are like, "Don't.

ruin it. You're going to ruin it. You're. going to ruin it. You're going to ruin. it." Well, if somebody ruins it, it's. the NFL cuz it's their product and it's. a genius product. And uh I think we all. knew they were going to try to profit a. little bit more off of it, which is not. great. I'm saying, but I'm just saying. I'm still going to watch. >> Yeah. And you can also say that and and. we'll see what you're doing when that. first Sunday comes along when you know. your local affiliate isn't carrying a. game at 100 p.m. So you got nothing but. like news on and then guess what? The. 400 p.m. time slot. Oh no, that game. sucks. It's [ __ ]. >> You know who you got? >> 7 hours of red zone football with Scott.

Hans. They got us. They know they got. us. They were definitely going to try to. profit more off of that. So I uh when I. said we don't care, I I missed it. I. should have said we would rather it. didn't. >> It's not the end of the world, >> but we are going to watch. Yes. Like. that. And they know we're going to do. we're part of the problem. But we are. definitely going to watch. >> And people who watch the Grum know what. you were saying like when you if you. don't follow the program then it it. would be hard to understand that. But. the way you said it wasn't like well. nobody cares. There's commercials.

Everyone everyone is okay with that. Like that's not what you were saying. and people who took it like that. I'm. not going to say the word, but it's a. word they use in England and Australia, and I'd like to use it, but those people. suck. Okay. >> Okay. >> That's grope, baby. >> It rhymes with. >> Yeah. It doesn't rhyme with anything. >> Yeah. Yeah. I think so. In other. countries, very normal. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> And good descriptor. Yeah. >> Of these particular situations, >> but here we would never do that. Okay. Let's talk about tomorrow. Chief. Chargers. I. >> heard there's bad practice field down.

there. These boys are trying to do a. walkthrough down in Brazil and they. can't do it cuz the field's [ __ ] It is. absolute shite. Now, whenever we went. and played in England, we were staying. at a hotel/golf course. We did our. practice and walk through on like a. field that was kind of in the back. Uh. it was obviously not a desirable. football field, but it was kind of like. a park situation. And we weren't really. going hard. I mean, it was just like. kind of test out the legs a little bit. Let's move around. They're probably. doing walkthroughs out here. Still have. to get work done. Uh what is the.

conversation around the that guy's. locked in by the way? That guy is not. Don't even think about it. Don't even. look at the grass actually with that. guy. They're lucky they're filming with. that guy on patrol to be honest. Um what. is the conversation about Brazil? How. does everybody feel about how the game's. going to go? Because obviously the track. last year a little slick during the game. as well. >> Well, it's a repeat of last year is what. it looks like. I I would think that it. should be and would be better this year. I have not gotten any firm reports about. the field condition being an issue, but.

if there are early complaints as you're. saying, that's not an encouraging sign. That doesn't look great right there. But. >> I I think you I think you understand. that when you step outside of our. country into one of these game, you just. don't know what you're going to get. And. the elements are different all the time. Remember the teams there last year, this. year, they're told to just stay in the. hotel. They don't want them leaving. They don't want any security concerns. They don't want any security risks. It. it's a strange thing and I I think week. one is such a unpredictable challenging.

week for so many people and when you. introduce a game like this it becomes. that much more challenging and difficult. to navigate but you know here you have. two great teams where they have excelled. and shined in spots like this. Andy Reid. has been superior when he's given. extensive time to prepare for an. opponent the way he is in an opener uh. with the Chargers and Jim Harbaugh 5-0. in opening day games in the NFL. He's. done a great job getting his teams. ready. So, two AFC West juggernauts. going at it in probably a little bit.

less than ideal conditions, but the. league wants to continue to grow the. sport all over the world. They were very. pleased with the experiment in Brazil. last year. They're backs again this. year, and I would imagine they'll keep. going back there and keep growing the. sport. I remember we were doing uh some. business with the zone and they talked. about countries that love the NFL that. they have the international rights for. Brazil was always one of those countries. that they were like, "Hey, they love the. NFL down in Brazil." Last year, you. know, had a green team involved. That. was a big conversation. This year, they. said, "We're not doing that again. >> Send a blue team down there. Send a red.

team down there. Let's go ahead and get. this all cleared up." We appreciate the. fact that our game is being spread. throughout the world. And uh shout out. to the boys. They seem jovial over. there. Here's Pat Mahomes and Travis. Kelce in their opening press conference. from Brazil. >> We've had a plan for this all summer. long and now we're just ready to play. football again. >> And Travis, what was last night like at. the airport? >> Oh man, it was crazy. >> It was it was a it was a lot of fun. seeing all the fans there and uh he had. that one coming for telling everybody I. didn't know where Brazil was on the map.

There was a little geography. conversation between Pat and Tra. Sounds. like Jovial and I think they get it too. like hey we are the current we are the. team. >> Mhm. >> Like. >> the NFL is going to want to shop us. Yeah. The world's team in the kingdom. They are going to want to shop us. around. They're going to want us to be. uh on opening night and if we're not on. opening night cuz we didn't win, okay, we're going to create a Friday night. game and you're going to be playing down. in Brazil showcasing it to the world. I. think they appreciate that honor and. opportunity. Justin Herbert, Derwin. James, Harbaugh, and the boys out there. Uh, I'm excited to see if this is the.

year they all put uh piece it together. That should be a fun Friday night. >> You you bring up all these football. stars, and they are football stars and. football standouts, but when you take a. step back and look at it, is there any. bigger celebrity in the NFL right now. than Travis Kelce in all honesty? Nobody. Like, I think his worldwide. popularity right now exceeds Patrick. Mahomes. >> Um, yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah, I would say so. Yeah, >> which is crazy to think about because I. think the reason why he was perfect for.

Taylor is because he was in Patrick. Mahomes shadow for so long. Like tight. ends, tight ends don't care about being. the star. Tight ends are literally. offensive lineman. They're never going. to be the one that is being promoted. Which is why I thought he was perfect. for Taylor. It's like he's not going to. be scared that his lady is a lot more. popular and powerful and influential and. every and liked way more than he is. because he's a tight end. Like that's. how that goes. So, I thought that was. all good. But now that you mentioned it, yeah, I do think he's probably more.

wellknown. Yes. >> Well, especially if he's out on a date. night at anywhere in the world. >> Mhm. >> Yeah. They're going to they're going to. be tracking him. Congrats. Just kid from. Cleveland. >> Yeah. >> Kid from Cleveland. >> I hope Mahomes doesn't uh. >> Oh, you think Patrick Mahomes is going. to be a little sour? I think there might. be more worldwide interest in Travis. Kelce than any NFL player. >> He has more Instagram. Travis has more. Instagram followers. I don't know if. >> But then if we start doing that, then we. start getting into all the soccer. players and then nobody really matters.

Dwayne Johnson. Dwayne Johnson. >> That cricket player. >> Julian. Yeah. Super famous. >> We're talking about those two. >> Yeah. But as they grow the game, there. was a thought maybe Australia as. somebody that did that trip. I think. Australia would be great for the NFL. I. think they would love our sport. I think. it's a combination of both their sports. that they like with a little bit more. padding and everything like that. And a. lot of Aussies have been doing American. football because of the similarities to. Aussie rules football with punting and. how good it is to get into our sport. So. definitely going to grow in popularity. in Australia. How would that work? It's.

so far. It is so far. That's 16 hours. from LA. You know, >> the one the one thing that I've learned. with the NFL, like I went to Australia. back in the late 90s when the Broncos. were playing an exhibition game there. against. >> Oh, this has happened before, you're. saying. Okay, got it. >> Yeah. No, no, they they've done it. It. was in the preseason. I I went to. Australia with the Broncos when I. covered them back in the early 90s. They. played a um preseason game there. So, look, here's the deal. If the league. feels like it's worth its while and it's.

going to make enough money to go play a. regular season game in Australia, it's. going to go play a regular season game. in Australia. And I would think that. it's only a matter of time. The time. difference, they'll figure it out. Maybe. there's a buy on the back end. Maybe. there's a Thursday night game the. following week or like they'll make it. work so that it's doable if it's. attractive enough and produces enough. revenue. I would say. >> nowhere nowhere's off limits, Pat. Nowhere. >> I understand worldwide on the moon if.

>> Yeah. And they're going to try. They're. going to try. I I think we're going to. get Elon's trying to get them up there. to do a game, you know, at least to Mars. in this entirety. If we could do more. with Australia, I think that'd be good. Australia is a beautiful country. It is. just so far. >> It is so far. And the time zones are. completely backwards. I mean, they're. winter right now going into spring. Okay. We're obviously summer going into. fall here. just everything completely. backwards. Um I was a day ahead of. everybody. I was letting them know what. tomorrow looked like when I was talking.

to people back here in Indiana. So it's. like uh figuring the logistics out would. be crazy, but I think that country would. be a great uh football fans. Now let's. talk about the NFL a little bit with. some more injury information. Go ahead, con man. >> Yeah, Shifty. Uh CJ GJ got hurt during. training camp and I think we all assumed. that he was going to be out for the. year. was reported as a very serious. knee injury. And then you reported uh. this week, I forget if it was yesterday. or earlier in the week, that he's. actually going to be playing on Sunday. against the Rams. Is this another.

Wolverine blood situation when it comes. to healing quickly or uh did CJ GJ not. have as serious of an injury? And is the. rehab facilities at the Texans just. better than everybody else? >> Well, first of all, kind of I love that. CJ GJ. Like that is an awesome thing. Kind of flows off your tongue, CJ. I I. just invented it, brother. >> Put on a t-shirt. Patent it. >> You should patent that right now. Okay. >> But when when he went down with a knee. injury in training camp, I believe it. was Thursday, August 8th, off the top of.

my head. And there were some reports. that he had torn his ACL. The team was. concerned he tore his ACL, but that was. never the injury. The injury was such. that it just wasn't as bad as some. people thought it was. And they always. felt like there was a chance that he was. going to be back in the opening game. And obviously a credit to CJ GJ that he. made it back this quickly, but he's. going to be out there for the first game. of the season for the Texans. He'll be. playing safety. I'm sure he's going to. be starting and he's going to be looking. to make some plays against a tough Rams.

team. >> Chefty, I don't know how big the rock is. that you live under so that you can do. the job that you do, but I do appreciate. it. >> Don't we? >> Oh, yeah. Yes, we do. Without a. >> doubt. Always. >> You never hearing CJ GJ just means. you're so locked in that you don't even. got time. I I don't even got time in. this entire thing. He's a tone setter. though. >> Oh yeah. >> He is a guy that when you bring him in, you know exactly what he's bringing. When he's absent, I assume not only can. he feel it on a football field, locker. room, sideline, everything. What a boost. he brings to everybody and the other. team hates him. >> Yeah. Immediately. >> Well, by the way, and and and. conversely, if we're going to tie it all.

together, the Texans have CJ GJ on. Sunday and the Philadelphia Eagles. >> are like without CJ GJ. Ooh. >> Oh, we caught the tail end. He froze. there in the middle, but we still got. the punch line. That's good news. I. would like to see Vic Fangio's. Philadelphia Eagles defense without CJ. GJ. He was a beast. I'm pumped for. tonight. What is your We have another. question, but like just as we're talking. about the Eagles here, what is your feel. for tonight? I think this can go both. ways. I think this could be a very close.

game. Dallas Cowboys can pull a lot of. motivation from being, hey, this is the. dumbest America's team has ever looked. and yada yada yada, they haven't won. And I think the Eagles uh could maybe. blow them up. Like I I I have no idea. how it's going to go, which I think is a. good thing. Sports book saying 8 and a. half. That's the biggest spread of the. weekend. Uh that being opening night is. Jerry Jones saying. doesn't matter. I am on opening night. the biggest numbers. You need me. What. are your thoughts from talking around. the league on how people see this all. going? >> I I I think that opening weekend is.

always very difficult to predict. If we. go back a year ago, I remember my. father, I'll give him a little shout. out, Jeff Schaer telling me, "Are you. kidding? I got my Survivor figured out. The Cincinnati Bengals are a lock and lo. and behold, the New England Patriots go. in and beat Cincinnati in Cincinnati. So, the one thing about opening week is. really these teams, there are some. results that always come out and shock. people. Now, maybe it's Dallas going. into Philly tonight. I think Super Bowl. champions since 2004 have a 15-5 record.

in this game. Dak Prescott has played. very well against the Philadelphia. Eagles. He didn't play in either game. against the Eagles last year. And so Dak. when he's played against the Eagles has. been at his best. So I I think Dallas is. going to play with him tonight. And I. can tell you that some people within the. Eagles organization are uneasy because. you just don't know how this is going to. go. It's the opening game. Everybody's. going to be fired up. You know, is. Dallas going to be fired up to prove a. point without Micah or is the defense. going to suffer without him? But they.

have obviously Kenny Clark. It's just a. lot of changes, a lot of unpredict. predictability, a lot of uncertainty as. we go into the open. Look, Philadelphia. is at home. There should be a ton of. emotion and energy. They should find a. way to win the game. But I don't see it. being a blowout at all. >> Eight and a half is a lot of points, especially for an opening week. But. >> what if they all come out fired up, the. Eagles, and their offensive line just. picks up the Dallas Cowboys Dline and. just walks them down the field and. Saquon Barkley's doing his [ __ ]. >> from night one.

>> There's a chance. There's a chance that. that's going to happen. I I mean that. can certainly take place. Kenny Clark. though can say I don't think so. Excited. for tonight. It's going to be beautiful. Last question here. Let's stay in the. NFC East. Go ahead, Ty. >> Yeah, Chef. It was reported that the uh. Cook Coke family uh is is buying, you. know, 10% of the Giants for a billion. dollars. Uh we've seen this happen a. couple times now, you know, with a few. teams. Why isn't every team currently. doing this? And are you surprised that. the Giants are now what the second most.

valuable team in the NFL? Uh if this is. to be correct. >> Well, I am surprised that not every. team's doing this. Like some teams have. done it. Jeffrey Lury with the Eagles. did it and made it such that whatever he. paid, he got back more and still. retained 90%. Uh, oh, by the way, back. to before I got a text that the the. league announced Super Bowl week that. they're going to play multiple games in. Melbourne, Australia beginning in 2026. >> Okay. Yeah, that's what we're saying. So, how is that uh Never mind.

>> So, but. Rams are the designated team. But back. to the Giants. Yeah, I'm surprised that. there aren't more teams like every team. is not selling 10% of their team getting. back a billion dollars or whatever it. is, putting that money in your pocket. There are some teams that could. absolutely use that cash. Um, a number. of them have done it. It seems like the. Sharper teams have done it and they. still control, you know, 90% of the. teams. So, it it's a no-brainer with. some of these private equity uh deals.

and these companies that are now allowed. to buy into the NFL. I don't know why. more people aren't doing it. >> Yeah. As soon as they passed the rule. that Yeah, you can take VC money, >> right, >> up to 15% if you want. That was them. voting. Hey, we're allowed to just snag. few hundred million, maybe a billion. dollars, right? Yep. Okay, deal. We all. say yes. Yes. I thought it was just. going to be everybody kind of doing it. Now, the Cook. Is it Cook brothers or. Koch brothers? How do you spell that? How do you say that? I mean, >> I don't know how to pronounce it. >> I think it's Cook. >> I've heard both. I've heard Coke.

>> So, we had a Cook, John, that spelled it. that way at our high school. >> Sure. K O C H. >> Could shoot the three ball. >> He was a beast. He was a beast on a. soccer field, too. I mean, he was way. too big to be a soccer player. Yeah, he. he was John Cook was older than me. protect. He looked out for me as a. freshman soccer player. I appreciate Mr. John Cook a lot. I think he's just. outdoorsman right now. He's probably in. the woods trying to kill something as we. speak with a He's probably got Yep. >> I would assume. >> top and maybe across the top. >> and coke across the bottom if I had to.

guess with him. But he said Coke. Ko C. >> You never really know. >> They're saying it's Coke though in the. back. >> Yeah, I I'm I thought I I I thought I. heard Coke. >> Cotch. >> Could be Cotch. It's not [ __ ]. >> Yeah, except that was Coke Industries. >> and like that people would. >> like a cola. >> Yeah, exactly. And that that was the. confusion. >> No, is it? >> No, I'm No, I'm serious. >> Whatever. Welcome to the NFL. >> We have no idea who you are, but way to. go. Way to go. We're happy for you. And. congrats to the Giants. Mara might not.

be able to sleep, but his team is now. valued up over 10 billion in actual. valuation cuz how what he was able to. sell it as opposed to just, you know, pontificating on what the value is. Congrats to him. Congrats to us. We made. it to NFL season. We appreciate the hell. out of you, Chefty. >> Guys, have a great week. Enjoy the first. game of 272 tonight. Should be awesome. >> When you say it like that, it's going to. go so quick. >> I know. Don't put a number 271 starting. tomorrow morning. Jeez Louise. >> The countdown. The countdown to the. Super Bowl begins. That's the way it.

works. But you know what? Then there'll. be more next year. So that's 272 regular. season, Pat. Then we get the playoff. games, too. So there's even more. So. don't worry about it. >> Okay. Thinking about Yeah. What the hell? >> Yeah. All right. We appreciate you, ladies and gentlemen. We'll see you on. Monday. Adam Shfter. >> Yay. Chefty. >> Love Shifty. >> The man. >> I love Chefty a lot. You know what else. I like? >> What's that? >> We don't take commercial breaks, but. there are a couple advertisements. >> Yeah, that's right. >> Only for companies that we really like. >> Salot.

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>> That's the best truck down the line. >> Ain't that the truth? >> That's Ram trucks. All right. Some. things we did not talk about. Uh Damon. Payne who currently plays for Michigan. defensive lineman. It's not good for. Kaylin Dbor. He was allegedly uh in a. conversation and said, "Yeah, man. I. feel better this year cuz we actually. work out at Michigan." That's basically. what he said. Alejandro. Zuni. J. I don't know. I don't know how to say. the name. It's 100% on me. Michigan. Dline coach on Alabama transfer Damon.

Payne. We talked this week because we're. playing Oklahoma. They played him last. year when he was at Alabama and there's. a couple clips of him on tape and I. said, "Man, you look different on. Alabama team versus us." And he goes, "Coach, we run a lot more here. We work. out differently. I feel way better.". >> Man, >> the hits keep coming for Kaylin. >> This is Michigan, Oklahoma. Kaylin D'ore. is in his office down there. Very clean. >> Just the whole world is spinning around. Boosters are reaching out to on three. We're about tired of this guy. He's just. sitting in there trying to figure out.

how to win a game. gets all the way. through the week and he's like, "All. right, I got everything Alabama related. out of the way. We got to have a big one. this weekend. I get it, but at least. last week's done." And then bang, from. Michigan, Oklahoma game. Wow. Alabama. doesn't work hard down there, questioning their entire culture out. there. This just one hit after another. for Kaylin Dbor. And whenever you lose, especially one of these high-profile. schools, they're going to be looking and. seeing everything. This is a story, though, because Alabama fans are going. to see this and go, "What we do, >> Michigan? >> They don't work. They don't work hard.

under Kayn Deborore. >> And then they immediately go, "You think. Sabin's boys ever said we're not working. hard around here?" No way. Sabin's in. that building still. You know, that's. because he's so addicted to ball, still. addicted to his routine. I don't think. he wants to have all of the. responsibility of being a head coach. anymore. He's 70. He's feel like he's. given enough to the game. He's already. won enough. He wants to help. He wants. to be around. But Kaylin Boore walks. down that hallway and just sees his. office and goes, "That's the ghost I'm. hunting right now.".

>> Yeah. Yeah, that guy was good. >> Walks on his way and he comes back. How'd you do it? How'd you do it? >> How am I supposed to do it? And then. just puts his little visor on. >> Mhm. >> And then just walks away. >> All right, coach. >> And Nick S's like, "All right, you got. to [ __ ] at least work out. >> You got at least have them working out. out there. This guy's got to be in. shape.". >> I just look, they've had the same. strength coach since 2020. So it's not. like the board brought a new guy, but. did he tell the old guy, "Hey, hey,

let's not work these boys as hard as. Sabin did.". >> Well, with that being said, I think we. have same strength coach from when Neil. Brown was there now with Richrod. >> And I do believe there's been a little. bit different direction to strength. coach. >> Yeah. >> Hey, you know, CJ Donaldson had to lose. 20 pounds when he got to Ohio State. >> Let's not have that happen anymore. >> Sounds like that's close to what. happened with Payne here from Bama to. Michigan. >> Kaylin, we're fans. We're sorry you're. taking shrapnel, but also tighten up. >> Yeah. And no, you know, no pressure. You.

lose another game, it's over. >> There's a lot of pressure. >> We'll be back on the other side. That's. Alabama football, baby. >> Yeah. Amen. >> Roll tide. Uh we'll be back on the other. side. We got Peter Shreger, coach Mike. McCarthy, and AJ Hawk. Be a friend. Tell. a friend something nice. >> Obviously, last year this segment became. a little bit of a rumor. $1.7 million. out the door for good causes. Andy, great college kids. Have you ever kicked. before? >> Yes. >> What do you mean you've kicked? Hold on.

I was told you have never kicked before. I feel like I've been bamboozled a. little bit here. You have kicked before? >> My brother's a kicker, so every once in. a while I go kick with him for fun. [Applause]. $150,000. for you, Logan, to start this season. Anything to say here to Logan as he. tries to win $250,000. >> after that hand gesture. Breathe and. close your eyes.

>> Okay. He doesn't want you to win. I do. So do these people. Oh, >> let's go. >> Logan Kirk Herbson will be holding for. you. >> Look, by the way, this is this is. >> tough terrain. >> Tough. >> This is real Ohio here. Glenn, if you. want to come over this way, we'll put a. little extra pressure on him. You got. Pete running around. You got the mascot. staring you down. They don't want you to. win. Glenn doesn't want you to win. Peter is taking a dump. >> in the middle of the field goal kicking.

contest. Stiff it in. That's Peter's. manure. Now, through manure, great. things grow. Will Peter's poop grow you. $250,000? You only have one kick. I don't care how. loud they chant for a re kick. You only. have one kick, Logan. Good luck, sir. 33. yards. Kicking is easy, everybody says. Let's find out. >> Ready, >> Glenn? What are your thoughts? >> I'm trying to give you. >> What are your thoughts? >> This is I think I think that poop was a.

bad omen. >> Yeah. I mean, Pete just pooped right in. your face. >> I can't believe we don't have turf. >> Well, we're in Ohio. This a football. state. You got to be tough. Logan from. Ohio, sophomore in business finance. Does he win $250,000? [Applause]. [Music]. [Applause].

>> Watch the poop. Watch the poop. >> That's what I'm talking about. >> Jeez. Hogan. Hogan. >> Congratulations. >> I'll tell you what. $250,000. week one of the college football season. Thank you for showing up. I'm proud of. you. How do you feel, buddy? >> I feel amazing right now. That That was. amazing. >> I don't want to be the bearer of bad. news. You definitely stepped in Peter's.

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Damn it. >> Your friend, tell a friend something. nice could change their life. [Applause]. [Music]. Hello beautiful people and welcome back. to our humble abode. The thunder low on. this NFL kickoff Thursday September 4th. 2025 hour two of the program starts now. Football is majestic and we're so. incredibly lucky that tonight we have an. NFL game. The Philadelphia Eagles host.

the Dallas Cowboys to kick off the. greatest season in NFL history, an eight. and a half point spread for the home. team. Will they be able to cover and be. dominant like they were in the Super. Bowl 207 days ago? Or will this scrappy. Dallas Cowboys team who's been counted. out all off season without Michael. Parsons go into the city of brotherly. love and keep this thing close? Mhm. >> That's what we're all trying to predict. as we lay down our wagers on this NFL.

kickoff Thursday. The toxic tables here. at Boston Connor and at Tai Schmidt. It's glorious day, Ty. >> It is glorious day. You know, listen, the last several weeks I've been trying. to kind of keep my mind occupied and. saying, "Hey, listen. I still got the. Yankees. I'm excited about that. I got. Iowa football. This is great." I woke up. this morning and I felt alive. I really. did. And listen, the Packers aren't even. playing tonight. We have NFL football. back. I mean, you hate to say it because. a lot of what you do in your life. matters clearly, but it feels almost. like nothing really matters until you.

wake up this morning and you understand. at the end. >> We've been waiting on Thursday night. That's Is that debuting tonight? New. Sunday Night Football song cuz Sunday. Night Football is on this evening. It. is. Uh. >> we love the off season. We love sports. We appreciate sports. >> Derby was fun. >> Derby was home run derby was elected. Thank you to the MLB for allowing us to. be a part of that NFL season just feels. special. Let's go to one half of the. hammer Cowboys AP tone. Happy NFL. football day to you.

>> and to you. >> Thank you. Uh what are your thoughts on. tonight's spread? >> Uh tonight's spread I think it's a I was. going to say I think it's a little high. but as we've talked about um. >> what's your chat GP tone say? >> Good. >> It's funny you say that. Uh the NFL one. started processing this morning. It's. not done yet. though. >> A chat time late to the dance. >> Little late to the dance. You're right. You know, it caught up in college. football. Um I will if it if it finishes. by the time the show's over, whatever. It's still, you know, percolating in. there. I will let you know. What.

>> was that? Are they They shoveling coal. at the Chad G. >> Somebody doing the math. There's. something the math. >> Oh boy. You are They're not going to. like you. Um. >> yeah, you should watch what you're. saying about these things. These things. listen and these things like to go. >> I talk to mine every day and we're on a. great relationship. >> I'll tell you what, mine wasn't bad. I I. asked it how many days it was since the. Super Bowl popped up 207. Then I. immediately don't believe it. Then I go. search it somewhere else. So I feel like. I have trust issues with my potential.

AI. I operate with Grock. I haven't gone. to the GP tone yet, but I do appreciate. that you're over there trying to get the. books for us. If I had to take a guess, um I would assume it would have the. spread be more than seven just because. right now it's using stats from last. year and last year Dak didn't play. Okay, they didn't have a running game. Their defense was terrible. What. >> all all I mean but this is a new Cowboys. team. Okay, when you have CD and GP and. Ferguson and Javvante Williams comes. over the Broncos and you got Dak back. I. think the offense is I I'm actually.

that's not who I normally am. I might. take the over. >> Whoa. >> Whoa. Really? Hey, we're going to score. some points even though normally opening. game a little bit of a caging affair on. the offensive side as everybody tries to. feel it out. Joining us now, ladies and. gentlemen, is a man who has the most. tackles in the history of the Green Bay. Packers. He's Mike Parson's going to be. chasing him. >> Yes, he will. >> He's college football national champion, a Super Bowl champion, and a RDER Cup. winner. Ladies and gentlemen, AJ Hawk is. here. >> Yeah. >> Happy NFL football day to you, AJ. >> Yeah, it's a beautiful day for. everybody. But is anybody going to pick.

the Cowboys tonight. >> and do you? >> Uh, for what? For spread or straight up? >> Straight up. Is anyone gonna pick, you. know, when we see the things the pregame. show, is it going to be all Eagles? >> Uh, over the past two days, I have not. seen a single star pop up on any of the. predictions. It's not just this game, though. There's a lot of games where. everybody feels the exact same way. And. I think that goes back to what Shfter. was talking about, and we all agree with. him. Early in the season, we have no. idea. That's like why coach Lee Corso. going perfect college football week one. is insane cuz nobody has a clue who's.

going to show up except for coach Corso. Nobody has a idea of what team's going. to be what. Of course, you assume the. Philadelphia Eagles are just going to. pick up where they left off last year at. the Super Bowl. Of course, you're going. to think that the Philadelphia Eagles. learned who exactly they were during. that playoff run when they were very. dominant and they're just going to carry. that into the season. There's still a. bunch of new pieces. There's new. operations. There's a new feel. It's a. new time of year. There's so many. different new things that you have to. have a question mark around all the. things that we assume to be true. And.

then for the Dallas Cowboys, it's like. they could be very motivated. >> Yeah. And motivation is a big deal in. football, especially with how physical. it is, especially on opening night where. things can be a little bit ugly, maybe. not put together. It's like Shotti. getting his opportunity to lead the. Cowboys. It's like you're welcome for. the amount of [ __ ] that you could just. pull from and motivate the boys. I have. no idea what's going to happen tonight. genuinely. But I think the safe thing. and the easy thing to do is just the. Eagles are going to win. And that's what. everybody has done on these game show or. on these uh shows that are picking AJ. Yeah, I mean I the Eagles, believe me,

they are absolutely stacked and loaded. when it comes to talent and where. everybody is, but the Cowboys, this is. like a a win-win situation. They could. have a moral victory if they keep it. close and look pretty good. So, I think. for the Cowboys, like they have great. thing. Hey guys, nobody's giving us a. chance. Here we go. We can make We can. shock the world here week one. >> But what if they lose by 20? >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yep. That's what it'll be. It'll be. loud. Exactly. And I think that's a. possibility. Like I think there's so. many possibilities for this game. like. UNCCTCU. I actually said during my pick,

this could go very different directions, you know, like could Bill Bich figure. out how to outf fundamental and out. scheme TCU? Maybe. There's a chance that. first drive. Here it is. It's happening. We knew TCU's offense was going to. score. So, were they just going to. battle? Possibly. But then for TCU to. blow him out, I was like, that was. always a possibility. Nobody had a clue. who was on this North Carolina team. Feels like for this game, anything's. possible. This Dallas team has won right. on a regular basis in the regular. season. Like that is what this is a.

regular season game. Getting eight and a. half points in of itself disrespectful. The entire world calling your team dumb. for letting one guy leave the building. And I haven't heard a lot of people. coming out saying we miss him. >> No. No. Nobody has. >> I I haven't heard that. Now, nobody's. been asked. Maybe they've been told not. to say anything. I think Dak was like. nothing needed to be said and like just. kind of move along. We don't want to. cause any more drama. There's already. been enough drama. there's a chance that. that is very real. But it it feels like. both sides happy with the trade, team.

included. So if you're shotty, you're. sitting in a good spot for things that. you can put up on the bulletin board to. let the boys know about. >> Yeah. Like aside from the broken heart. tweets from from a couple of them, there. really hasn't been the glowing like, "Hey, without Micah, we're going to miss. him so much. He meant so much to this. team." There hasn't been any of those. But even just looking at the Cowboys. offense as a whole, it could be Dak's. best offense he's ever had. You know, we've never seen Shotti as a play. caller, but just when you're thinking. skill, George Pickkins, CD Lamb, both I.

mean, you could argue CD CD definitely. already in his prime. George, you could. argue kind of getting there. Maybe this. will probably be the best quarterback. he's ever played with. George Pickkins. Ferguson just got paid a bunch of money. We always talk about that year 1 to year. two jump for rookies. Their rookie O. lineman, Booker, from Alabama, he he's. supposed to be their dude this year up. front. So, who knows? Eight points is a. lot. >> Eight points is a lot. Conor's heavy on. the Dallas Cowboys as you can hear. through him talking through the first. hour and 8 minutes of this show. Once. again, we are commercial free for this.

second out. >> What? >> Terrible guy. Coward sellout. Commercial. free. Now, it doesn't mean we're. advertising free, but we are commercial. free. Uh it's almost as if that is what. we would prefer, you know, in most. things, as if we stood on a table for. that to be a thing. And we do it every. single day. With that being said, ESPN. Bet is taking bets now for anything that. you would potentially want to wager on. this evening's NFL kickoff. ESPN Bet is. there for you. Bet 10 bucks, get a $100.

in bonus bets. It's what it says. You. should look into it entirely. See how. you get that $100 in bonus bets. That is. your smart. And use promo code get 100. >> Yeah, >> definitely look at the asterisk though. to see how you can get that 100 without. a doubt. And whenever you're betting on. that, know that this first week, it's. gonna be tough to predict anything. It's. >> very a lot of heart betting here in the. first couple weeks. And that's not where. you want to be if you're trying to. really be cerebral in your sports. gambling world. But right now, it's all. in your heart what you think. Do you. believe in Nick Serriani and the boys?

Yes. >> Mhm. >> Yeah. >> Do you believe Shotty will have the boys. be able to keep this a fight? Connor. says yes. Does everybody else? We shall. see. >> Well, that's the thing. Like you just. said it right there. You know, you bet. him with your heart early on. This isn't. this isn't hard. This isn't like, hey, Cowboys have so much pull through from. this isn't Eagles, you know, fall off. Super Bowl. This is strictly like eight. and a half points in an NFL game. Like. we we talk about all the time when when. when it's week 12 and one of the teams. is two and you know 10 and the other is. 12 and two and it's a 14-point spread.

Okay. But it's week one like we no we. have no idea. So saying like, oh yeah, definitely this year's Eagles team is. the, you know, the eight points better. than this year's Cowboys team. Just. feels like with the Micah stuff, with. the Jerry stuff, also with how good the. Eagles have been, it's easy to do that. >> The year we were two and 14. I think it. was nine games that were one score. games. So if we end up winning those. ones that we lost, like we have 11 wins. right there, you know, and it's like if. the ball bounces that different way,

happens to bounce up into De I don't. think Debo was on the team. No, he. wasn't on the team. He came afterwards. happens to bounce up into Gerard P's. hands and he scores a touchdown late, we. win. It's like it's very difficult to. blow people out in the NFL because. everybody's professional football. players. But boy, you listen to the. internet a little bit, it feels like. Dallas Cowboys are going to get. absolutely murdered. Go ahead, uh, Tone. >> Yeah, and this stat I'm going to give. you is not 100%. It is 60%. Uh, since. 2010 when teams are underdogs of six.

points or more, they have covered 60% of. the time. Now 60% not 100%. Okay, it's. not 100% stat but and gambling we like. to live. >> This feels like fourth down graphic on. the screen saying 60%. Go for it. >> We like to live in the margins. 53% will. get you uh get you home and get you a. winner for the season. So. >> joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, is. a man who has a prediction special. airing at 3:00 on ESPN. Friend of the. program, former guest host, Emmy award. winner, ladies and gentlemen, Peter. Shreger. >> Shregs Shregs, good to see you. Happy.

NFL kickoff day. It feels so good. It. feels like a holiday. I am in Bristol, Connecticut, where Pat AJ, you'd be. happy to know. I already got a corner. office with a view and everything. >> Is that FS's office? >> It is. It's Mr. Foss's office. We're. here at the big boss's office and I'm uh. using it as my studio here for the Pat. McAfee Show. >> Yeah. Well, we appreciate Foss lending. that corner office for you. He does have. a good view, I believe, right outside. that uh if you look to your left right. there, there's a wall of windows and. then there's a bunch of people out. there. Those huge fans of ours. Tell.

them we said hello. All those people. >> I'd rather not. Yeah. Hey, good to see. you guys. It's good to see you, Foss. Foss, don't. make any noise out there. Foss FS is the. man. Everybody behind Foss. Massive fans. of ours. Yeah, it's good up there. >> Come on. Happy family. Win on Tom here. This is it. Everyone's been very nice. >> Yeah. To you. Sure. But the um So, let's. talk about uh tonight's game and let's. talk about the prediction special that. you have at 3:00. Is it predicting. tonight's game or what exactly does the.

prediction special with Peter Shreger at. 3M on ESPN and tale? >> So every year when I was on Good Morning. Football, I would bring out this Super. Bowl prediction with great pomp and. circumstance and I've been very. accurate. I had the Rams winning the. Super Bowl. I had the Bucks going. I had. the Chiefs all these years. And I came. to ESPN, I said, I kind of liked the. flavor of that. Can we put a group. together and we do a special around. actual official predictions? And it's. not just Super Bowl prediction. Pat, you. got to tell us your seven teams in the. AFC and your seven teams in the NFC.

Seat them out and let's go. And guess. what? When you do that, >> there's going to be a lot of fan bases. that say, "Hey, wait. You said all. offseason we were going to be good. Why. didn't you pick us?" It's easy just to. say, "Every team's going to be great.". Now you put your money where your mouth. is and your name where your heart is. And I have got my seven teams in both. conferences and I have my Super Bowl. pick, which I will unveil at 3 p.m. >> Okay. I can't wait to see that. Who all. is doing this with you? Just you? who's. signing up to get their shins bashed by. >> That's exactly what it is. It's like. it's not pleasant. Like I was going to.

ask you guys, I'm like, there's no wind. to doing this. But here's the group. We. got Jason McCordi who's been through. this wreckage before. Uh he worked with. me on Good Morning Football. God Orski, he said he's going to do it. He doesn't. know any better. >> Born in the dark. Born in the dark. Yeah, definitely. I would love to do. that. Let me piss off how many people? Yes, I'm in. >> That's it. And then Field Yates is. smart. I'm like, let's go with him. He. He'll say no. He didn't say no. He's. like, yes, let's do it. So Field, who is. maybe the nicest guy on the universe, is. going to do it and is going to find some. hate online after he doesn't pick. everyone's team to make the playoffs.

>> His hair though is going to be tough for. people to hate on him with how he looks. right now. He he is truly phenomenal. Cannot wait to watch that. See all the. predictions from everybody and see who. they pissed off or omit. Let's talk. about tonight's game. Shrekes, how do. you see this evening going? Obviously, you talked to a lot of people. We know. that whenever things get close to. actually happening, that's when you have. the most information. Okay. >> Yeah. And. >> go ahead. Go on. No, no. I was gonna say. I was going to give you credit and. flowers for draft night and everything. About a week before draft night, you. might not have all the answers. Draft. day, you have all the answers. Before.

kickoff day, maybe don't have all the. answers. How everybody feels. Kickoff. day feels like you have it all. Feels. like you don't try to rush your [ __ ]. You just say, "Hey, when I get it, I'll. have it." What are you hearing about. tonight? What are your thoughts on NFL. season kicking off as a whole? >> I so appreciate that. It's why I don't. do a mock draft in December. It's why I. don't make my sural prediction till. about three hours before kickoff because. I like to see everything and I like to. know. I will say this. >> Yeah. >> As much as this network and every other. network has been destroying Jerry Jones.

over the last two weeks for this trade. and maybe rightfully so, the Cowboys. don't feel like their defense is going. to be 32nd in the league. In fact, the. Cowboys feel pretty darn good with their. defense even without Micah Parsons. Now, there might be egg all over that face of. theirs, but I have heard a lot of people. in that building tell me, you know, you. guys are underestimating what Dante. Fowler can bring, what Sam Williams can. bring. We drafted a kid of the second. round out of Boston College who can rush. the passer. There are several different. voices who feel like this Cowboys.

defense might be okay without Micah. Parsons and this isn't going to be the. worst trade in the history of the NFL. >> There's a lot to pull from if you're. shotty and Ilfloose. obviously his first. year back with Dallas and obviously they. got stars on their team still, but. they've been disrespected heavily and. the point spread eight and a half is. certainly just the latest of the. disrespect that the Dallas Cowboys can. try to spur some motivation from. Go. ahead, AJ. >> Yeah, when you're looking at this this. Cowboys offense, I feel like Dak has. kind of flown under the radar throughout.

this off season and I think he might be. poised to have a big year. What do you. expect from this offense tonight? And. ultimately, can this offensive line hold. up? Because I feel like they have so. many weapons on the perimeter that they. could do some great things. >> That's going to be the big question. They've got such a young offensive line. with all those first round picks uh that. are going to be playing, whether it be. Gayton or Smith and of course Booker. now. Like you've got youth all over that. offensive line. If they can hold up, this is going to be an explosive. offense. They've continuity with Brian. Shottenheimer now as the head coach. He. was the obvious play caller last year.

when he was doing it with McCarthy. And. then now you look at this and you add. George Pickkins who has a carrot at the. end of the season of you can get a. monster contract like you just saw Terry. McLaren get or you just saw DK Medafcat. if you have a good season. George. Pickkins is in the final year of a. contract. They did not renegotiate his. deal. The wrap on him is that he is a. bad vibes for the locker room guy. So. far in Dallas, he's been great in the. locker room. He goes out there and he. takes some of the pressure off CD Lamb. There is a great reward for him. A a pot.

of gold at the end of the rainbow and. Dak was second in the in the MVP voting. two years ago. So AJ, I'm with you. Like. I don't know where this thought of. Michael Parsons was the entire Cowboys. identity. I know that thing was ugly and. it got weird and when they traded him, it was like, well, the Cowboys aren't. doing anything. They don't feel that way. and that's all I can say as far as the. vibes coming out of Dallas right now. And Jerry said we got four first round. picks over the next two drafts. Don't. don't think I won't just do something. right now. Stay tuned. Stay tuned. We'll.

see how it looks on Thursday night. Say. we need another pass rusher. Maybe I go. hunting for. >> We got full first round picks. >> Yeah. Did you watch the dock, the cherry. dock or no? >> I've seen I've seen portions of it. I. have not gone all the way through it. Darius is watching it for a second time. Everybody in here. Peter Berg Peter Berg. said it's the greatest sports dock that. he's ever seen. is up there. I mean, yeah, there is there's a lot of people. that really really love it that have. been telling me I need to watch it and. I'm like, "All right, I'm going to try. I'm going to try. I'm going to try." Uh, but I want to really commit to it before.

Sunday, you know, because I think. >> Yeah. Now that. >> the season is starting, yeah, I have to. get into it. Yeah. So, I'm going to try. I think a lot of a lot of what you're. seeing the last two months with this. Micah thing is explained in this. documentary with how this man lives his. life, how he goes about his business, and how when the haters and the those. who dismiss get louder and louder, it. makes him want to zag even more. It's. not stubbornness all the time. Sometimes. it is ingenuity, but sometimes it is. stubbornness and sometimes it is I'm.

going to do it my way through hell or. high water. And it worked early on. question is, at 82 years old, is this. trade gonna be their undoing or not? They don't think it is. >> He was 50 million in debt and he was. still trying to get more money. Jerry. Jones is going to sit in the pocket. I I. I think that is a trait that he. certainly has uh from the parts that. I've seen. But yeah, I think it's all. been on display and even on the red. carpet of the of the documentary out. there at Netflix, he goes, "If they're. not talking about something, I'll give. them something to talk about." You know, it's always nice to have the Cowboys in.

the conversation. Which then leads to. Cowboys fans saying, "Jar, maybe at one. point when you were trying to build the. business that was good. Now we are an. established business. Let's try to win. the Super Bowl." Well, their fans voted. allegedly on the Athletic. Connor has a. question for you. >> Yeah, Shrags, we are we have a hope. meter uh article and this was taken a. survey basically from people who do. surveys online and it's basically just. optimism for the season and then. pessimistic for the season. Um I I the.

good teams I assume are great, but is. there anything for the bad teams that. you got here? Not the Colts cuz we know, hey, the Colts are obviously, you know, they're they're going to figure it out. They're just upset with the believe. ours. But what about these teams down. there? I think you see the Cowboys. That's. >> Cowboys are third lowest. I mean I mean. >> Go ahead. >> That's ridiculous. Cowboys are a good. team. They're going to compete this. year. I see two other teams that I'm. very high on that are awfully low on. this thing. >> Yeah, the Fins. Your fins are up there. That's what you said last time. Fins. My. fins are 82% in the tank. I mean, come.

on. The Miami Dolphins bring back just. about everyone on offense. They have a. healthy team for the first time. They. had a 100% participation in their. offseason program. And they get their. two great veteran defensive players, Bradley Chub and Phillips, back from. injuries who didn't play last year in. addition to Chop Robinson. I don't know. why everyone's so down on the Dolphins. I like the Dolphins. I'm high on the. Dolphins. The other team a couple. notches above them. Why would people be. down in the Bengals? They did everything. you asked them to do and they finished.

it and they got it done before the start. of the season and they're finally. healthy. So, Dolphins and Bengals I'm. very high on despite what this athletic. confidence omter. Yeah, people are up there. Now, I I do. have to add in because one of the only. classes I went to was a sociology class. with Professor Nancy Feather, and I. appreciate the hell out of her. >> Nancy out. Yeah, that's a great name. >> She was great. She was awesome. She was. a G. Um, she.

>> massive class or like small 20 person. lecture. What are we talking? >> Pretty big class. Pretty big class. I'm. sitting like left hollow there. Uh, >> Professor Feather. >> Professor Feather. That. >> is so cool. >> The hand or or passive. >> Uh, me. I'm not in the room. Yeah, I'm. I'm hands down like this and I'm just. take I'm learning. I'm learning. I'm. learning. You know what I mean? I'm. learning. I'm trying to learn. It's not. my world. I should not be speaking in. here. You know, I would like to. understand what's going on here. I don't. go to a lot of classes. I've heard this. one's interesting. I would like to hear. you speak. She was she was very. interesting. I appreciated sociology as.

a whole. I think it's helped me out as. I've kind of moved on. But one of her. first classes was about polls being. absolute [ __ ] Basically, she was. like, "You just need to understand that. polls are absolute [ __ ] If you were. to go and survey 100 people here in. Morgantown versus 100 people in. Pittsburgh and then you just said you. surveyed 100 people, don't you think. both those people would have complete. opposite answers?" So, you always have. to think about who were the people that. were filling out the poll. Like who was. going to the athletic, reading the. athletic and then deciding to vote on. this, you know, like you have to you.

have to categorize the human who is the. poll and then realize that's how these. humans feel about the poll. But I don't. think you can just dismiss it. completely. I don't think you could just. say like, nah, those people don't. represent the rest of the fan base. I do. think this was a pretty good take on how. >> basically. >> the teams make sense. the vibes of the. team. I I I do think it was very like so. I my natural reaction is normally polls. are [ __ ] That is normally my. reaction. Uh but whenever I looked at. this it was like feels like you could.

certainly find a significant group of. every fan base that does feel this way. So I I I a feather collar. What is it. called? The collarary. What Ty Schmidt's. smarter than me. What is it? What do you. call it? Like coralary. >> Corollary. I'm call it the feather. corollary here. And I'm going to say uh. this is all BS. It's all before the. season and every year, Pat, we get. turnover of four to five different. playoff teams and we never go back and. revisit what the August vibes on ESPN. Talking Head shows were, right? Like to.

me, I look at the rosters, I look at the. continuity between the Bengals and the. Dolphins, I would also add in that. conversation the Cowboys that with the. exception of Micah Parsons and Zack. Martin, you know, they pretty much. brought all their stars back and they're. healthy. So, I would feel better about. those teams. And as for the Broncos, look, Shawn Payton's one of my closest. sources. Sorry, gave it away. One of my. favorite people. Sean Payton's been been. talk doing a victory parade all. offseason about how good they are and it. seems like everyone just went with that. And I was like, well, if Shawn Payeyton. says to the local media that we feel.

pretty good about Bo Knicks, he must be. going to the Hall of Fame. So, I'm going. to put the pause signal up there just. for now and say, let's see it before we. go all in and say they're 100%. optimistic they're going to dethrone the. Chiefs this year. >> AFC West obviously loaded. Broncos. everybody likes. I think your interview. with him uh in the Shreger Hour didn't. uh hurt anything. I think it went over. pretty positively. Congratulations on. the Shreger Hour being announced and. happening. >> New podcast. >> 2025 new podcast is the right time. That. is the right time to do that.

>> That felt like there weren't enough out. there. Like it's just this kind of. little niche thing, the podcast where. the marketplace hasn't fully been. So I. figured that's what people need another. football podcast and that's what I'm. going to do. Well, Shriker, anything you. do, we're happy about and we're. watching, you know, and listening and I. think a lot of people feel that way. But. I do appreciate that like there was a. big announcement for another podcast. >> for another podcast. Yeah, it's like uh. yeah, I appreciate Shanks, anything you. do, you're going to be great at. We want. you to know that. But you interviewed. Shawn Peyton. It was good and I think it. was super positive. But that AFC West is.

crazy. Chiefs Chargers Friday night. What are your thoughts going into that? Obviously Harbaugh is looking to. institute his full culture. Andy Reed. and the boys are trying to get back on. track after getting blown out in the. Super Bowl in the biggest stage. They're. still the AFC champions. You know, they're still the best in the AFC. They. have been will be. Everybody has a sour. taste in their mouth because of the. Super Bowl. Is that what you're thinking. whenever it comes to the Chiefs? And uh. Yes. >> How do you feel about Friday night? I. think people forget that, you know, Patrick Mahomes last year for the. majority of the season was throwing.

catch with Sky Moore and Justin Watson. and, you know, a a belleaguered uh. offensive skill set positions that he. usually had loaded rosters with. And. that's nothing against those guys, but. DeAndre Hopkins being acquired midway. through the season and, you know, Kareem. Hunt being taken off the scrap heap in. week three and being asked to start and. play big roles, that's not ideal. I. think this year, you come in, you got a. fresh and and Oh, can you hear me? >> Yeah, you're still on. You're still.

clear. You're still very clear. >> I got a we got a fresh, you know, a. fresh Hollywood Brown, a a rejuvenated. Isaiah Pacheo who's coming off the. injury and is apparently looking great. like I think they feel very good about. their team and just because they lost to. the Super Bowl to the Eagles and lost. that way doesn't mean that they're. suddenly off a cliff. They still won the. AFC. That said, this thing is is a wild. card. The fact that it's being played in. Brazil and we don't know the playing. surface and we don't know the travel.

situation and we don't know it's the. ultimate neutralizer when you go to a. field in a stadium in a country that's. 12 hours away. Like the NFL is promoting. this international stuff big. They want. this to work and it's great. This is not. Arrowhead or Sofi. There is a giant. variable and whatever team adjusts. quicker and can make a couple plays. early on and get their footing I think. is going to make a big impact in this. one. >> You would think back toback years for. the Chiefs probably helps them out a. little bit, right? Having to go on a. road play to something like that. You. would think it would help them. They. seem to be pretty jovial. They. understand that they are representing.

the NFL everywhere they go. And I. appreciated the fans last year. Place is. packed. >> So, let's see if it happens again. Yeah, let's see if it happens again. All. right, last question here from a team. you're also very close with out there in. Los Angeles. Go ahead, Tone. >> Yes, you are, Shreggs. And it was. reported this week that Matthew Stafford. is fully healthy and ready to go. Um, what do you think the sigh of relief is. is with that Rams team, especially with. now they have Puka and Devonte and that. offensive line, running, everything that. that team has. Um, what's your vibe.

coming out of Los Angeles from that from. that staff? >> If Matthew stays healthy, they've got a. shot to win the whole thing. And that's. the huge if. And as much as he's healthy. week one, we don't know if he's going to. be healthy week four, week 10, week 15. This is a long season. And people know. now that there is a guy who's got back. stuff going on underneath under center. So that is going to be the topic of the. day for them every time they go take the. field. Can Matthew make it through the. week? Truth of the matter is Jimmy G was. out there all all summer while Matthew. wasn't and was lighting up defenses, too. They did the inter camp practice.

with the Cowboys. I told you guys Jimmy. G looked incredible during those few. days and they feel like they've got a. really capable backup. But to your. point, Puka, Devonte, Williams, you got. 22 as your speed guy. They feel like the. rookie out of Oregon at tight end. Ferguson's going to be a star. Like they. feel very good about this team and this. offense. And the defense exceeded. expectations. So, it's it's really to me. just who's standing at the end of the. season. And if Stafford's under center, I wouldn't want to face them. >> All right. You want to give us a couple. um little sneak peeks at some.

predictions from the prediction show at. 3 p.m.? AJ, don't you think we should. maybe get a couple little predictions? >> Yeah, maybe one or two, I think. Shrekes. >> Yeah, let's go. Shreds. >> AJ, uh, a couple predictions. Number. one, I don't have the Detroit Lions. making the playoffs this year. >> Wow. >> All right, Shregs. >> What happened? >> Whoa. Whoa. >> Whoa. >> They're the number one seed in the NFC. >> Wow. >> Number one. >> Had a 100 injuries to their I was. playing. >> I don't hate him. I don't hate him. I.

love him. I think that NFC North is. loaded and I think the loss of two. coordinators is not being discussed. enough. Those two men are absolute G's. at what they do. And that's Ben Johnson. and Aaron Glenn, arguably the two best. coordinators in all of football last. year. And I think we look at a healthy. Aiden Hutchinson. We look at a healthy. uh you know, a couple players, we say, "Okay, well, they're back. >> I think there's going to be a steep a. steep drop off without those two men. calling plays on offensive.". >> He's dying on Detroit. >> Wow. Did not see that coming. And. >> but this is why we do the prediction.

show cuz it's easy just to say here's my. Super Bowl teams. I like the Bills and I. like piss off Detroit. Yeah. Number one. seed in the NFC and take big swing and. welcome to ESPN. >> Welcome to ESPN Shrekes. Yeah. Take the. hat off. Let them see you your eyes. Let. them see your eyes. All right. Do you. have another team you want to piss off. or a team that you want to make happy or. anything like that? >> I'll make You want another piss off one? I'll do another piss off one. >> Jeez. >> Yes. Love it. Love it. >> Oh my god. tracks. You You just told. Detroit that they're the same old Lions,

not the brand new Lions that were the. number one seed in the NFC last year. Okay, they're not going to make the. playoffs due to. >> 15 and two. 15 and two. >> That's Peter Shreger. That's Peter. Shreger's prediction show that you can. watch. >> It's so easy to go on any network and. just pick the chalk. It is bold and it. is fun to take a risk. And I'm going to. take the heat from the Lions fans. I. hope I'm wrong. >> Of course. Sir, good spin. >> Another prediction. Another prediction. >> Here we go. >> From the office of Peter Shreger via.

Mike Fos. >> The Cincinnati Bengals. are going to the playoffs and Joe Burrow. will be your league MVP. Let go. >> That's a big prediction. >> Paid a lot of money. >> Hold on. Hold on. >> Boom. Crank that on your boy that maybe a. little bit more of a buildup on that. one. Yeah. There you go. There you go. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. You got it. Okay. >> Do you see that John Harks jersey behind. me? One of the great American soccer. players of all time. He played with. courage. He played with pride. >> That's what I'm going to do at 3:00. Eastern on ESPN on the Worldwide Leader. >> Good luck, Sh. We're pulling for you. >> Where's the shin guards, ladies and. gentlemen? be a shreger. >> Trace. >> Wow. >> Jeez. >> Wow. >> I mean, that's just a classic new school. dude pick. He doesn't care about grit at. all. He doesn't care about trenches at. all. All right. The Bengals are not.

tough. Probably the least tough team in. the league. And then he says the Lions, the most tough team in the league, aren't going to make the playoffs. That. makes no sense. >> Cincinnati's eating actual rubble for. lunch at work. Who's got time? >> Trev is doing this to Foxy right now. He's just playing him like a B. He's got. a big time. That's what you're doing to him, Shanks. You got You got Foxy just like this. >> He's got him. Look at that. >> He's playing you like an absolute puppet.

over there, Foxy. >> And you know what? MCDC is just going to. show that to the team and say, "Look at. this [ __ ] on ESPN. He doesn't believe. in you guys. Let's go beat Green Bay.". >> All right, Shanks. We appreciate that, Shanks. >> I love you guys. I love you guys. Ah, >> ladies and gentast. [Applause]. >> Love him. >> Same old Lions. >> Yep. >> Joe Burrow winning the MVP. That'd be a. big deal. >> I mean, if their defense was pretty.

good, he would have won it last year. >> Yeah. >> And is that why they're going to give it. to him this year if they made the. playoffs? >> He earned it last year, actually. It was. a two-year thing. age. I want to let you. know a lot of chatter from the boys. before we started this commercial free. hour. >> Mhm. >> Yeah. >> A lot of chatter from the boys about. your hair, >> about. >> What about it? >> You sticking with it and how proud we. are. >> Yeah. I'm firmly in the camp of, hey, keep going, brother. Fight the good. fight, man. Don't give up. >> What do you think? >> There's nothing to do either way. I'm. just growing my sides out. Yeah. It's.

going to be weird for a long time. >> The other a long time. Yeah. But what. we're saying is there's going to be a. lot of mornings you're going to go and. look at that mirror. you're going to go, "Jesus, this hair is just not doing. anything that it should do.". >> That's every day. >> Just take a compliment. >> That's not I don't know if it was. exactly a compliment. I don't know if. you guys can tell. I'm a bit um sweaty. This room is 82 degrees. We're waiting. on a few pieces for our furnace. So, there's no window to crack. >> Yesterday, yesterday it was going. through I got a little thermometer over. there. I see that that sucker hit 82. So, I'm trying not to sweat profusely on. here. >> Well, I don't if you were to start.

sweating profusely, we would respect it. Just want to let you know that. 82. degrees, no window to crack. Furnace has. a couple issues. What's the issue? It. won't turn off. Is that Is that kind of. the issue? >> You know, I'm up in the attic and it. won't blow cold air. So, the dude came. out and had to shut it all the way down. now to get the new part tomorrow. >> Okay. So, you're just kind of sitting up. where all the hot air rises to. >> Yeah. There's nowhere. Yeah. There's no. If you could crack a window, it'. probably be all right. But, you know, I. don't who knows where the closest window. is. >> Well, probably right behind that book. >> shelf. >> Behind the sh This is the shelf up in.

the attic. So, there's no, you know, there's no windows around me. It's. probably be that'd be terrible actually. Room for a tornado. It's at the very top. of the house. >> You wouldn't be able to see it coming. though. Wouldn't be able to see it. coming, which is certainly an added. advantage. I appreciate you being as. gritty as you are today, showcasing that. toughness, wearing long thick sleeves. that you can inside 82 degrees. And uh a. former coach of yours is going to be. incredibly proud of you. Five, I guess. >> There's a Yenzer that has represented.

the city and football so damn well. was. a head coach for 17 seasons in the NFL, most recently with the Dallas Cowboys. Obviously, you all came to love this man. as the head coach of the Green Bay. Packers. He's a Super Bowl champion. He's a Yinser legend. Ladies and. gentlemen, joining us every single week. on Thursdays. >> Coach Mike Cor, >> you look awesome. Holy hell, this is. Yeah. >> Thank you. No, it's great to be on, Pat. I missed you guys. >> Go ahead. You look, did you know this is.

how he was going to look? I I am so. sorry. I'm so jacked up. I had no idea. you were going to look this cool. The. backdrop awesome. Beautiful. Super Bowl. championship. The hat, the button don. kind of the loose casual with the night. photo in the back. Coach, you look. >> awesome. We want to let you know that. and we appreciate the hell out of you. >> Okay. I I mean, I don't even know what. to say. What the hell was you expect me. to look like? AJ, help me out. >> You look You got a great camera setup. I. think your your production value is very. high. You look great, coach. You look.

amazing. Oh, thank you. Well, I got a. lot Yeah. a lot of people give credit to. there. Obviously, my wife, Jessica, took. care of me behind me, so I'm in good. hands. >> Great artist. Great artist. We've been. in there before. An incredible artist. Uh we appreciate you joining us. Today's. a great day to have you on. Obviously, Dallas Cowboys opening up the NFL season. tonight, taking on the Philadelphia. Eagles. You obviously understand that. rivalry. you understand that NFC East. better than anybody that would be. talking into a microphone at this point. What are the emotions of this evening.

and how much do you think Shotti and the. Dallas Cowboys are drawing on how much. everybody has kind of counted them out. since the Micah Parson's trade? >> Oh, I I think they're enjoying it. clearly. Um I I think just like. anything, this is a huge division game. It's a rival game. Uh I guarantee you. everybody in that locker room is. expected to go out there and win. tonight. So, uh, I'm looking for a super. competitive game. I know they're excited. about it. You know, obviously last year, you know, the way the two games went. last, you know, the outcome of last. year's two games, but yeah, this is.

going to be a hell of a football game. I'm excited to watch it. >> Uh, if you're shotty, are you thankful. for everything that has happened during. your short tenure thus far? Obviously, trading away Micah has uh created a lot. of noise around the team. A lot of. people saying it's the dumbest. franchise. A lot of people saying they. have no chance. A lot of people kind of. burying them. if you're shotty, do you. like that as a coach that you can draw. from it or what are your thoughts on. having that be the start of your. coaching career in Dallas with all the. chaos that kind of took place outside? >> You know, I think for the thing for.

Brian is he understands it. I mean, there's always two components that you. learn uh when you work there and the. pure football part of it's excellent. I. mean, there's so much to love about this. Dallas Cowboy football team and and I. and I know he realizes that. So, and. when you just keep it about football, uh, there's, like I said, this is a very. good football team, a very young. football team, and, you know, and this. is always a great game, you know, Philadelphia and and Dallas. So, I I. think you just got to keep it more about. that. Now, all the other stuff that goes.

on, uh, that's that's part of the. environment there, you know, that's part. of the content driven business, uh, that. Jerry Jerry's the master of. Uh, but and. you just got to learn to separate that. And you know, personally, uh, it took me. a couple years, and frankly, it was a, it was a conversation that I had with. Jerry. I think it was after the 20, it. was about 2022 where just, you know, everything we talk about right here, that's what counts. And, uh, all the. other stuff is business. And, and I. think when you when you when you realize. that, and I think the players there now.

realize that too, the current players, because this is a hell of a locker room. Uh, I'm I'm really high on these guys. I. know we we talked about these guys uh. during the draft, you know, the draft. visit, but I think this is a young. ascending football team. Uh I like the. additions that they made. So, I look for. a super competitive game tonight. >> Okay. Go ahead, AJ. >> Coach, we uh anytime we've been around. you, you're very high on Dak Prescott. and everything that he does as a. quarterback and as a leader of that. team, I guess. What do you expect from. him, not only tonight, but the rest of. this season? >> I I number one, stay healthy. He stays.

healthy. he'll reach every every goal. that he he has set out for for his his. team and himself. I I do believe that in. heart of hearts. Um I think Dak is. clearly a what I would call a full. operational quarterback. You know, when. you when you get into the, you know, the. postseason, you start building, you. know, your offense for the upcoming. year, the concepts you're looking to, you know, build off of the variations. that you want to change. Uh he's full. operational. There's nothing that you. really get out of, you know. Now, he. obviously ran more in his younger days. and frankly once he received a bigger.

contract, we tried to be more selective. with that. I'm not sure what direction. they're going here in in the in the. future here, but uh he he's full. operational. Uh I thought, you know, we. increased the three-step emphasis. I. thought he was excellent at that. So, uh. the play action, the keeps and all that. So, really like him in the situations. Everybody talks about his leadership and. his hardworking, but this man's a hell. of a football player. I I just love the. way he stands in there and and and makes. those throws and doesn't blink. >> Okay, so let's talk about him standing. in there and making those throws. You've.

obviously had to game plan against Vic. Fangio's defense, this defense that is. currently with the Philadelphia Eagles. What do you think, Shotty, Dak, and that. offense are going to try to do tonight. to this Philadelphia Eagles defense? How. do you have success against them? >> Well, the biggest thing, too, it it all. it always starts up front. Doesn't. matter who who you who you're playing, it definitely starts up front when you. play against this this Philadelphia. Eagle defense. you know, when I when I. view uh defensive lines, this is a this. is a group that can apply pressure. inside and out. So, with that, you just. got to be very aware uh when you're.

talking about time clocks and. expectations. And uh personally I. preferred to to throw the ball on them. up in Philadelphia on the grass than. than inside because I I I did really I. can remember a safety that Fletcher. Fletcher Cox had in the earlier games in. 21 I think it was where you know when. you have that combination of inside and. outside you you got to be smart with the. way you throw the ball you know and I'm. talking now particularly to your your. pass sets you know you have to you have. to make sure you short set these guys.

more than you probably would think. Um, so I mean I I think that's something. that will definitely be the starting. point. I know that's what I'll be. watching. I'll be watching the up front. I'll be watching the fits. I'll be. watching the chipping, you know, the. edges. If uh, you know, if if they're. making Dak throw off his back foot and. so forth. But, you know, this will start. in the trenches and it'll start with. running the football and having having. the opportunity to take advantage of. that run game on first and second down. But when it comes down to the. situational stuff, you know, you got to. block them. And uh, this this is a hell. of a defensive front. You said something.

in there that uh was kind of just a. throwaway comment for you, but I think. he's very interesting. You said you'd. prefer to play them on grass, that Dline. up in Philadelphia as opposed to maybe. turf. Is that what you were trying to. get at there? Because maybe the. footing's a little bit more loose. Now, it's obviously opening night, Philadelphia Eagles and everything like. that. Grass is going to be per I mean, it's going to be immaculate. >> It's going to be immaculate tonight, but. it is it does have the possibility of. being a little bit more slick than like. turf or maybe in a dome or something. like that. Is that what you were getting. at there with playing against this. Philadelphia? >> Well,

>> yeah. I'm not even talking about. slickness. I just think it's the it's. the reality of playing on grass versus. turf, you know, and compliments to the. Philadelphia ground crew. It's they do a. great job up there. I mean, the grass is. great up here in November, December when. we went up there. So, but I just think. it's more about we're at that level of a. defensive front. You know, when. defensive fronts have the ability to. apply pressure inside and outside, you. got to make sure you really change up. the pass sets and those types of things. You know, it's not like, oh, I prefer to. play them throw I mean, I prefer to. throw the ball in Philly and and not a.

Dallas. And that's that's not what I'm. saying. I'm I'm saying you just got to. be conscientious in the game plan and. more particularly in game uh to make. those adjustments because, you know, I. think you saw in the Super Bowl, you. know, you know, that that game was on. turf and that I mean those guys, I mean, they they were applying pressure from. the first quarter all the way through. So, um I just have a lot of respect for. their defense, a lot of respect for Vic. and uh but it starts up front. always. does. >> DC Fangio goes from Miami where he was. told it was Fangio over basically can't.

can't relate to the modern players. Then. he goes up Philadelphia wins Super Bowl. Then he's got everybody back and they. got the Dallas Cowboys on opening night. Are you guys going to be able to repeat. the success you had last year? We shall. see. Uh Connor has a question for you, coach. >> Yeah, coach. Another new OC for Jaylen. Herz and the Eagles. Obviously, when. they have a lot of success, those OC's. are going to go and be head coaches. Kell Moore, you know, being the most. recent one who you were with for some. time. But what do you expect for Jaylen. to kind of struggle and go through early.

on in the game if he struggles at all um. with the new offense? And do you see. them just continuing to kind of lean on. Saquin in the O line and no point to. change what they have done, you know, the past two years? >> Yeah, I I'd be very surprised if there's. any struggle from a systematic uh. approach. I mean, the first OC is still. there, Nick. I think Nick's done a great. job, you know, not only the overall. football team, but keeping the formula. for success intact. I mean, they. definitely play to their strengths. I. mean, ground and pound and and control.

that clock and they got a dynamic. offensive perimeter group that can play. with anybody. So, I I think that um you. know, the operational part of it will be. seamless. You know, the biggest thing in. in my experience is September football. Um, the things I'll be watching for is, you know, just the fundamentals, the, you know, the time clocks, the timing, uh, the combination blocks, you know, the pad level and footwork and those. types of things. And that's that's for. both teams. But I would think Jaylen. would just, you know, I'll be surprised. if they don't kind of pick up where. where they left off. And, you know, hopefully they've had a good camp. But,

uh, yeah, I don't think that the OC. change is going to be huge in my. opinion. >> As we wrap up for tonight's game and. move on to other NFL stories, uh, we'd. be remiss if we didn't ask you about the. entire Micah situation. Obviously, we. assume you have a different view or. perspective on this as somebody that was. literally in the building in a very. prominent role and have a relationship. with Jerry Jones. As you're watching. this from outside in and kind of all. unfold, what are your thoughts, especially with the release of the. documentary where a lot of people are. learning that Jerry is the consmate. businessman and promoter and kind of.

learning his ways while all this is. taking place in the news? What were your. thoughts on it as former coach there? Well, I mean, honestly, personally, I I. tried to get as far away from football. as I pos possibly could since uh you. know, my time ended there in Dallas and. was able to accomplish that for the most. part as far as what people would would. allow me. Um, and just the quality time. that I I've had with my family is. something I've never had before. But I I. will say this, I you know, I did have an.

opportunity to meet with Jerry uh in. June before we moved back to family. moved back to Green Bay. And um you know. one of the first things we talked about. just the you know the offseason program. you know how excited he was about the. draft class and he talked about Micah. I. mean he was he was excited that you know. he felt that him and Micah had a they. had a deal and um in his future and you. know and he's earned that and I think we. all recognized you know the impact in. you know the performance from a per. performance perspective on you know. Michael Parson's earned his contract. I.

mean there's no question about that. So, I mean, that was my position on um I'm g. say early June. So, I I just and. obviously being there. I mean, this is a. contract, you know, from a cap. management standpoint, you're talking. about the last two years. I mean, then. you know, you got Dak, you got CD, and. now you got Micah. So, I mean, the the. these contracts obviously affect your. approach or outlook on other contracts. So, um I always anticipated it would get. done as far as, you know, that meeting. in June. But, you know, one thing I've. learned and, you know, the old saying in.

business, you know, time kills deals. And uh and and as training camp got. going and people were asking me and what. was going as I was trying to, you know, get some boat time up here in Dor. County, I I just I just always felt, hey, no, they're going to get it done. They're going to get it done. Jerry's, you know, this is the businessman. Jerry, you know, keeping the, you know, the Cowboys at the front of the news. cycle and and just really didn't pay. much mind to it. Um but you know as this. thing went on longer and longer you know. I I think anytime you know business. transactions you know are are held up.

you know the decision makers there's. there's more emotion that comes into. play here opinions are heard more and. more and I mean this this is what can. happen. So this is just my opinion. I'm. not acting like I have any inside. information but I I just felt this was a. this was a deal that took too long and. um and then and frankly I think both. sides will benefit. I think Green Bay. will benefit here in the short term and. I think Dallas I I like what Dallas is. doing. You know, I love that Don Bla got. a contract. Hunter, you know, these guy. I mean these, you know, and I'm as I'm.

looking here at AJ, he's he's a perfect. example of it. You know, the draft and. develop process is built on second. contracts. You know, how many second. contracts are done on your on your draft. class? And I think Dallas is now in that. in in the in, you know, on that on that. on that path. And uh so you know where. in the past you may have you lose a guy. or two because you are projecting these. big contracts. So um I I think these are. two good young football teams. Uh I. clearly see it you know Micah making a.

huge impact because. regardless of what you think about him. when he gets off the bus he's getting. double teamed he's getting chipped. He's. being identified. He's making the whole. front you know the whole front seven is. better because the opportunity he's that. he's he he is creating for them. And. that's just the facts. I mean, there's. no ifs and buts about it. So, Green Bay. now has that, you know. So, now what. does Dallas have? I mean, Dallas has. five real pass rushers, you know. I'm. excited about those guys, you know. Sam. Williams, it's his time. I mean, Sam was.

ready last year. You know, he had that. big knee injury in in training camp. So, we were excited to see Sam and Micah, you know, line up last year and, you. know, it didn't happen. So, you know, there these teams got depth. Uh, both. Green Bay and in Dallas, I'm talking. So, it'll it'll be exciting to see the. the course of the season. But I'm. telling you, don't don't uh don't you. know, the emotion of that was. surrounding the Cowboys right now. Um I. I I'd never, you know, put too much into. that. I think when you just look at the. brass, you know, the brass facts of.

football, um I think Dallas Cowboys got. a good really good football team. >> Cowboys plus eight and a half tonight. >> Oh, I'm taking Cowboys all day long. Come on. >> All right. All right. Let's move off of. tonight. We appreciate you addressing. Micah and also you saying that in June. when he talked to Jerry, Jerry was like, "Hey, Micah's got going to be a cowboy. and be a deal." And then you saying time. kills all deals. Feels like there was a. lot of things that happened in that time. and then a lot of avoiding each other. It felt like anytime you get the public. [ __ ] that started coming out too, that's. never a good thing. But hey, Jerry could.

have made magic at the end, decided to. send him to Green Bay and now Packers. fans are excited. And now maybe he stays. in your house up there. Tone has a. question for you about another Green Bay. legend. Yeah, coach, I do. Obviously, you were with Aaron for a long time up. in Green Bay, and I wanted to. hypothetically put you in uh Steelers. offensive coordinator Arty Smith's. shoes. Um, they have a young O line, they have young running back, they have. talented tight ends, and obviously DK on. the outside. If you were the offensive. coordinator in week one, how would you. handle this offense with Aaron, and what.

does he do for a young offensive line, uh, in particular? Well, I think the biggest thing is, you. know, with with Aaron, you know, playing. with with with new members of an offense. is just getting the rhythm of it. I. mean, you're talking about a cadence, it's probably one of the best weapons in. in offensive football that I that I've. been around. I mean, I he regularly. used, you know, nine cadence variations. in in our time together. You know, I. just think the fact that you're able to. use that. So, I mean, how much of that. are we going to do is is where I'm going.

with this. So, just get into a rhythm, get these guys started, get, you know, get them off on the right foot. Uh, I'm. excited about Pittsburgh because, you. know, lifetime Steeler fan. I can I can. open openly root for him this year. And. I'm excited to see Aaron, you know, in. the black and gold, too. And I I like. their formula. You know, um, uh, I love. what Mike Tomlin stands for. You know, he I think, you know, trust your. tradition. You know, this this this. team's been about defense since the 70s. So, I mean, I think they got an. outstanding defense. um you know, play.

to that and you know, you're going to be. in every football game and I I guarantee. there's no one that's that's run more. two-minute drills than Aaron Rogers. So, I I think they have a they have a really. nice formula to be successful. >> Going to be KG Affairs, the Cardiac. Steelers back for another game, uh. another season. They spent a lot of. money on a lot of people seemingly going. all in. Hopefully, Cam Hayward uh is a. part of the entire things. Also Chris. Boswell, they have a couple things that. have kind of been lingering overhead. business-wise, but if they put that team. on the field and everybody's there, very. evident that they're trying to make a.

run this year. Steelers fans are pumped, but if it goes south, coach, you know. how Pittsburgh is. Go ahead, AJ. Go. ahead, AJ. >> Yeah, coach, you mentioned Aaron's. cadence and just makes you think like. what you've been around some great. quarterbacks obviously in your time. What does he do that separates himself. from other people? I've seen it. firsthand. I know defenses, it drives. him crazy, but like what is he doing? How is he using inflection of his voice? How is he different than other. quarterbacks maybe? >> Well, uh, great. Great as far as the. variation, but the cell scout. I think. he I mean, all the way back to the early.

years. I mean, obviously we we we built. that over time, but, you know, his. ability to to um sell scout throughout. the season, you know, being totally on. top of, you know, Chicago week one, you. know, Chicago week 12. So I I think just. the because you know obviously since. they put the the microphones on the. center and guards I mean there's the. audio out there you know everybody's. aware of it but I I think just being on. you know the the variations is one thing. but the percentage of the variations and. more importantly you know the timing you. know um you know young young defensive.

end in the game you know okay great time. to you know go double count those types. of things. So, um, I just think his. experience is is, I mean, top of the. line. Um, been around a lot of great. quarterbacks. I think his application of. information at the line of scrimmage is. is is as is as good as anybody that's. ever played a game. I mean, his ability. to to absorb information. Um, you know, there's times, and you've been there, AJ, he's he's almost on the sideline of. the other team because he's over there. to listen to the defense, you know, uh,

coordinator talk to the, you know, to. players and he's acting like he's over. there bsing. So, um, you know, he just. his ability to gain information during. the course of the game and apply it I. always thought was very unique. >> Yeah. The last second time out, too, whenever he can't figure it out. That. that shit's dancing with one z. Yeah. Look at you. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It does. get real. >> Yeah. Want to got blamed for this [ __ ]. all the time. Oh, yeah. [ __ ] that up. >> Hey, when it gets to three or two, can. we make a decision as opposed to at the. half every single time? It was uh.

fantastic. Okay. Green Bay Packer owner. who lived those rides with you, Tai has. a question. >> Yeah, coach, the last several years, the. only thing we've talked about uh, you. know, with the Bengals at the start of. the season is like, hey, Zack Taylor. doesn't have these guys prepared. They. don't start fast. And with how good the. AFC and the NFC are now, a lot of teams. can be [ __ ] out of luck if they start 0. and4. Is there any way going into a. season you can ensure like, hey, we're. going to start fast this year and we're. not going to put ourselves in a hole. where we have to win, you know, six or.

seven games down the stretch to get into. the playoffs. >> Blame it on the CBAs. That's what I. would say. No, I I tell you, it's tough. Uh it it really is. I think train. training camp is the most important time. a year as far as training your football. team. It's the only time really the. offensive line who are at a huge. disadvantage in the training, you know, in the training formats that are out. there. uh because they really don't get. into the real training into the fif you. know the fifth practice of a training. camp. So um I think you have to coach. September football a little differently.

Um, you know, September football is not. the best of the year, you know, and I I. think that, you know, the fact that you. have 17 games, I'm actual thankful for. it because you still have opportunities. uh because, you know, you you see it. every year that the fundamentals are, you know, they're just not as as good as. they they were in the early days. And. that's just probably a product of a guy. that's been fortunate to be in the. league for, you know, for three decades. But, you know, I I think some of that. I'm not trying to make excuse for any. coach. I just think you do have some of. that September football and uh as far as. being ready um you know there's change.

that you know uh each team every year. you talk about another great division. you know I mean that's that that's. that's a tough hard nose division as as. any in football too. So yeah, I I I I. don't think there's a, you know, you. know, a right way and a wrong way um to. to to go about it because you you got to. train your football team as hard as you. can in training camp, but it's really. you train them to the you know, to the. health of your team, too. So that's the. you know, you got the mechanisms of GPS. and all those things that go into it. Uh.

but, you know, that's that's it's you. know, your your your time your timeline. of training camp getting a team ready is. is is a bit of a challenge for. everybody. >> That's good stuff, Scott. especially. with all the mechanisms that we going. out there, you know. Yeah. Yeah. >> Coach, we appreciate you. This was. wonderful. We know you're on the. Cowboys. We appreciate your takes on. that. And uh we can't wait to chat with. you next week. You're the man. We. appreciate the hell out of you. >> All right. Thank you, man. Look forward. to next week. Have a great week, >> ladies and gentlemen. Super Bowl. champion who looks very cool right now, Coach McCarthy.

>> Coach, >> love that. Did you expect him to pop up. in front of a night time? >> No. >> Picture 12. >> I think it was a big screen. Wasn't that. a big old screen? He might change it. next week. It's going to be something. else next week. >> His wife is an actual artist, like a. painter and everything. We got a chance. to see her studio. She has a massive. studio. And it's like, he's like, "Yeah, wife did all. >> It does look pretty cool, doesn't it?". He didn't even see that. >> He sat down there. Had no idea. >> We good. >> We good. >> I'm sitting here. >> He's the best, man. He was great with us.

at the draft. >> Yes. >> Hanging with us, the whole thing. We're. thankful he'll be joining us every. Thursday. He's making selections. Tech. Cowboys plus eight and a half. >> I don't know if he's planning on doing. that, but we just got one out of him. We'll see. We'll see. We'll see how it. go. >> Yeah, we'll see how it goes. Uh, we are. one minute until a heart out here on. ESPN. Remember, Peter Shreger has his. super duper prediction special coming at. 3:00 Eastern on ESPN. We'll be live. tomorrow over reacting to everything. I'll be live in uh Oklahoma. >> Oh, nice. >> Tomorrow, Friday. Obviously, we're.

kicking off another incredible college. football weekend. Oklahoma, Michigan is. taking place in just a couple of days. Obviously, tonight, Philly and Dallas. kick off the NFL season. Tomorrow night, Chiefs and Chargers. Sunday night, Ravens, Bills. Are you kidding me? We're. in it. We did it. AJ, it's a great time. to be alive. We're lucky to be here. >> We're absolutely lucky to be here. I. mean, tonight, tomorrow night, everything. Yes. This is a beautiful. time and we are just at the beginning. Just scratching the surface. So, I can't. wait. >> It is just a tip, isn't it?

>> Just the tip. >> Not even yet. really. almost. >> It's about to be and we're about to feel. how great it's all going to be. We're. very thankful for that. And remember, we. don't love that there's commercials, but. it was obvious it was coming and we're. still going to watch. That's a red zone. >> Nailed it. >> Nailed it. >> Nailed it. >> I was getting attacked for that. ESPN. Disney show. It's like I don't They're. not even on Disney. >> I mean, it's. >> not even on ESPN or Disney. And also, it's on Google currently with YouTube. They're not the ones deciding that. either. It's the NFL is deciding that.

And as soon as we saw the LR wraps, we. all knew, >> oh, here we go. >> Ball was coming. >> People are [ __ ]. >> Don't love it. I don't love But we're. still gonna watch it. >> As long as you don't go to like even if. it's like sometimes when they keep the. game going and they split screen, I'm. like, just do that. I don't I. >> they're doing four of them 15 seconds. long allegedly over the 7- hour period. >> That's it. >> Now, I did see uh Brandon Pera uh Denver. Broncos fan and YouTuber. Uh I guess he. came out and he said, "Am I a marketing. genius?" I think so. Uh, Bud Light.

should just say commercial free football. presented by Bud Light. >> I think Bud Light would have a lot of. people that maybe were still. about Bud Light. >> Yeah. >> Going, hey, >> actually, >> you know what? >> All right. >> Maybe you know there's. >> honey Bud Light likes football. >> They love football. They don't want me. to see any of these commercials. There's. a chance that that is a thought. But if. it's not Bud Light, another one of the. league sponsors could come in here and. really be uh.

>> be a hero here. >> Great opportunity there. Great. >> Door Dash coming in and saying, "Hey, >> you're telling me people were mad about. one minute over seven hours? >> It's [ __ ] That's one more minute I. could have had.". >> I got some terrible things said to me. I. got some very terrible things said to me. for this. I I did not expect it. And and. as soon as I was like soon as I started. reading them and they were like, "We. don't care. We do care, you [ __ ]. shill." But I'm like, I obviously would. rather not have it. I mean, my show has.

none. The one that I negotiated, the one that people were pushing for for. me to have them. I obviously don't want. it. It's not on ESPN. But we're still. going to watch, aren't we? Are we all. still going to Are you going to not. watch? They got us. They. >> They're not cutting away. They're not. cutting away from the from H. Hansen. will be on screen the whole time. Correct. >> Yes. Play through is what they're saying. allegedly. >> Hey, come on. play when it's played. through. I'm all for it. >> Yeah, we all are. But but we'd rather it. wasn't though, to be clear. >> How's the world work?

>> It's also not 1992 like where it goes to. a commercial and you're just like, "Fuck, I got to sit here and just watch. this commercial now." Like, you can take. your phone out. You can go take a piss. You can go grab a beer, go get something. to eat. Like, >> how about the other Quad Bucks? If you. have. >> Oh [ __ ] Okay, I'm just going to watch. the local game and I'm going to watch. this game that I don't. >> Once again, we don't we're not happy. that it's happened, but we knew it was. going to happen just by knowing the NFL. So, >> NFL's cash cow. >> That's what they are. That's why they're. the number one league on earth.

>> Players are getting a lot of money. because a lot of these deals, it's as. soon as the NFL saw that they could sell. maybe one game for a holiday to one of. these streaming platforms and it was. like, how how much money is this? How. many hundreds of millions for this one? Oh, we can certainly cook up a Black. Friday game. Uh we got a Christmas Eve. game. We got four Christmas games, don't. we? Yep. What other days can we make up? Can we make up an NFL day? Can we make. up a Wednesday afternoon? We'll sell as. soon as that's what the NFL is. That's. why the league is headed where it's. headed, which is why, you know, we don't. love it that they are just capitalizing. on absolutely every dollar that they.

know they can get and we're not going to. change our watching style. Like, they. put those 15-second commercials up there. and it's play through. Okay, we're all. going to still watch. And they knew. that. And they were like, "How much more. money can we get?". Do we think these NFL fans are going to. stop watching because of these? >> No. >> All right. So, we're leaving money on. the table. >> We don't do that. Give us that. Now, everybody is worried that once you do. once the NFL does that, maybe they'll. then start doing the breakin commercials.

and they'll like gobble gobble gobble. gobble gobble keep going. Certainly a. possibility. And at that point, we will. certainly raise hell by hey, we can't be. doing this because we did a college. football uh red zone in that commercial. every four minutes. And it turns out it. sucks. >> Yeah, it does. >> Turns out it sucks. >> So, >> I hope the NFL understands that that is. why Red Zone is Red Zone. That's why. people are paying a subscription fee. But as soon as they started marketing on. it, it was like that was seemingly.

inevitable for the NFL and I'm still. going to watch. I don't love it. I don't. love that I'm that easy and that I'm. that committed and I don't love that. they're doing it, >> but it was obvious they were going to do. it. >> Well, you can have the best of both. worlds. You can still watch and then. when it goes commercial, you can tweet. like it's [ __ ] [ __ ] [ __ ] the. NFL. >> You got to have good service though cuz. that to get that tweet typed and sent 15. seconds. >> Exactly. Exactly. But it's a fun little. game. >> We should do something. No, we or I I. don't know who would do this, but.

whoever's like the people that are super. mad about this, if they go to take a. piss at all during red zone, someone. should come out of their closet, just. punch them right in the face. Okay. >> Say they're missing it. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. But it's on their time. >> Okay. >> It's not on air. It's not on Red Zone's. time. >> Mhm. >> And Red Zone, by the way, operated by. the NFL. The NFL is the one making a. decision to do this. We all knew the NFL. would do this if they could do this. >> Which is why. >> people mad about this aren't NFL fans. because. >> I don't think so. >> No, they're not. I mean, we're Nobody. who is actually mad about this will hear. this and nobody who's actually mad about.

this will watch Red Zone every week. The. people who are mad about. >> You're talking about what I'm saying. right now explaining myself. They did. not hear it. >> No, no. All those people on the internet. >> whenever they go to get red zone the. first week here and go Disney these. [ __ ] [ __ ] And I say it's not on. Disney actually. It's on another. platform. Wait, you. >> Well, [ __ ] them still. >> They thought about it. >> Yeah, they would have. >> Okay. >> It's worldly living. God help us all. Exactly. >> We're lucky to be here. >> That's right. >> We get to be here because we do. >> Mhm. >> It's fun reading walking in traffic.

because I said that I'm still going to. watch Red Zone. >> This [ __ ] guy likes commercials. You. believe this [ __ ]. >> This [ __ ] piece of [ __ ]. >> Thank you, dude. Sorry I said it. >> This goes in. >> They're not going to do any commercials. >> Okay. Boom. >> That'd be sick. >> High stakes. >> I'm trying. Make up for it. >> Yeah, exactly. >> Big shot. Big shot. [Laughter]. little strong look good. >> The NFL making money off something.

They're going to do that. I'm bummed. out. All right, let's run through the. stories that we have not covered or. given enough attention to and then let's. make our picks and let's enjoy the hell. out of NFL kickoff day. Con man, what. have we not talked about that we. definitely should be uh talking about? Yeah, there's one thing we definitely. haven't talked about that we need to be. talking about, and that's because you. studied night and day yesterday to come. up with your top five players of the. Philadelphia Eagles and Dallas Cowboys. rivalry. >> That's a great call. Actually, I I was. almost going to maybe not do it just. because it was so much pressure. So much.

pressure. How do you think your top five. favorite players that played for the. Philadelphia Eagles and the Dallas. Cowboys just in the history of the. teams, your top five favorite players. combined? combined. It was not easy. It's a lot of pressure. We don't do a. lot of lists, but to kick off the. season, the greatest season the NFL is. ever going to have. I couldn't help but. pay tribute to guys that have dawned. these uniforms, put on these helmets, and built this rivalry in these. franchises to what they are today.

>> Yeah. >> Let's start with number five, Jason. Kelsey. Now, listen, Jason Kelsey's the. youngest guy that's going to be on this. list. I think he it was all retired. players. It's not active players. He's. recently retired. We love JC Kelsey. >> Guy slams beers. Obviously, he's. representing football in a huge way. Not. only with his podcast, but with. everything he's doing. And he was a dog. on the field. Undersized, but could. outrun you and out grit you. He actually. would gnaw on your Achilles. He would. gnaw on your Achilles to get a get a. good block. And then he would talk to.

the boys and he'd get emotional right in. front of them because they're such damn. tight family. And then he would. [ __ ] somebody. And then he would. hop on the ball, score a touchdown. And. then they would create a play called. Dush Push that would be right literally. his ass being pushed by other men that. are being pushed and create something. that's unstoppable. Jason Kelsey, phenomenal Philadelphia Eagle. And as. somebody that is not an Eagle or a. Cowboys fan, I would say he's in my top. five favorite Cowboys and Eagles. AJ, do. you agree with the pick of Jason Kelsey. in the top five? >> Absolutely. He's an absolute legend. And.

people I think because he is so, you. know, he's out there and he's so good in. the media, people forget this guy was an. absolute monster on the field. Absolute. monster. Allp pro. One of the greatest. centers, if not the greatest center of. all time. That's like Travis Kelce. One. of the, if not the greatest tight end of. all time. Ed Kelce's got two goats. >> Yep. >> Okay. >> Three sounds like. >> Yeah. Heyo. Yeah. Maybe many more. Who. knows? All right. At number four, top. five favorite players, Randall. Cunningham. >> Oh, hell yeah. >> Jason Randle Cunningham. Obviously,

let's go through the stats here. He's a. college football hall of famer. He's a. four-time AllPro. threw for two 207. touchdowns, had 35 rushing touchdowns in. Oh yeah. One point in his career had a. 91yd punt down there at the Meadow. Landu. Third longest punt in NFL. history. Backed up. Got to get it off. Randle Cunningham says, "Don't worry. about it. Let me [ __ ] bomb him on. down here." 91yd punt AJ for quarterback.

Randall Cunningham who led the. Philadelphia Eagles to a Super Bowl not. to win one. But shout out to Randall. Cunningham for all he's done for. kicking, punting, and quarterbacking. >> I I was I'm old enough. You guys aren't. old enough. I was old enough to remember. Randall Cunningham and watch him play in. person. He was ahead of his time, man. Super athletic and can throw the ball. about 7,000 yards. >> I don't know if he made it to a Super. Bowl. Is that what we're saying? >> Oh. Oh. Uh, no. We were saying that. wasn't a 91 yard punt. >> Oh, that was not it. I mean, and that.

had. >> Well, if you count from the end zone, if. you count the end zone. >> Yeah. So, basically, if you count what. they don't count. >> Oh, so it's an 81 yard punt. >> Yeah. Well, the guy and the guy returns. it. I don't know if it cuz cuz No, it's. just gross gross punt. >> Well, the ball kept going past 91 yards. then. >> Okay. So, that ball snapped from the. one. >> Yeah. And I think it goes all the way. down to like the seven. >> That's not That's Yeah, that's. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> to the six. >> So, it was Yeah, that. >> Oh, well they they did count it to where. he returned it to. >> 96 minus one would be a 95 yard punt.

>> and then he returned it to like the 13. >> I think he has the record then because. they counted as a 91 I believe, >> right? >> I think it's longer than that. >> Unless there is another clip of him. another. preseason close. >> So that that's from the one yard line. So if he was to hit it to the end zone, that'd be a 99 yard punt. >> It gets stopped six yards from the end. zone, right? Seven yards from the end. zone. >> Yeah. Yeah. Six yards. Bingo. Right in. there. >> So seven yards. >> Seven. Yeah. >> So that's 92 yards, right? 99 minus 7.

would be a 92 yard punt. >> Mhm. >> So he got ripped off a yard. I don't. think it would be record. >> Yeah. The record we saw was like 98. yards. But again, they're not including. their return. Like if you punt the ball, >> that would be your uh net punt. This is. gross punt. Gross punt. Gross punt. Net. punt. Nonetheless, Randall Cunningham. >> AJ's gone. >> Yeah, he's sick of it. I'm tired of. talking about punishment. All right, let's go to the number three overall. player whenever it comes to Eagles and.

Cowboys. Michael Irvin, >> the playmaker, absolute dog. Uh. obviously on the field, there's. highlights galore all the way back to. his draft night where he was told the. Green Bay Packers were going to draft. him out of Miami and he said, "I'm not. going just because he didn't want to go. up there. Told him he'd go back to. school and he would not go there." kind. of force his way to the Dallas Cowboys. Throughout the documentary of Jerry. Jones's business life and the Dallas. Cowboys build as a whole, Michael. Arvin's really a superstar in there cuz. not only on the field was he tearing it.

up, off the field he was as well. Guy. was wide open. He was always himself. And then whenever he would transfer into. television, he'd be one of the most. electrifying people on a microphone. Michael Irvin has to be listed in one of. our top five uh favorite players. whenever we're talking Dallas Cowboys. and Philadelphia Eagles. Had him in. number three. I don't mind it. I like. number three overall and I think people. will respect where we put him at. >> Yeah, I think it's perfect. Especially. when you look at the uh like the total. players in this like it was very hard. just to get down to five, let alone. thinking about you know the the legends.

that have played in this type of. rivalry. >> Yeah, cuz I mean T0 is somebody that we. we respect and like a lot. Obviously. he's a big part of the story. Tony Romo. >> obviously a guy that we spend every. single Sunday with while watching games. I mean, there's just numerous amount of. superstars that we could have picked. from this rivalry. How about number two? Who do we got? Oh, yeah. The one, the. only. >> Deion Sanders. Pick. >> Deion Sanders. Now, he had five punt. return touchdowns as a member of the.

Dallas Cowboys. He had a couple pick. sixes. He had a fumble recovery for a. touchdown, and he had a receiving. touchdown whenever he was there. He was. there from 1995 through 1999. Became an. absolute problem. massive piece of the. documentary as well, especially with. them trying to get back onto the. mountaintop, bringing in Deion Sanders. and him becoming prime time for Jerry. Jones's Dallas Cowboys. Obviously, he. just kicked some ass in the offseason, battling an illness back on the. sidelines for the Colorado Buffaloos. How's this season going to go for them? We don't know. But what we do know is.

this dude is certified. We appreciate. the hell out of Brown. You look good, you feel good. You feel good, you play. good. You play good, they pay good. They. pay good, you live good, you live good, you die good. Shout out to Dion Sanders. for what he's done for football and also. as a member of the Dallas Cowboys. It. was awesome watching on TV every single. week. AJ, I think this list is coming. together nicely, don't you think so, pal? >> Yeah, you got me eagerly wondering who. your number one pick may be. There's so. many to choose from here. >> Yeah, there's a lot of people that we.

really could have kind of gone with. a. lot of people that represent both teams. so perfectly. You know, couple offensive. linemen on both sides could have got. picked. Couple defensive linemen could. have got picked. You know, it's strictly. players, so we didn't think about. adding. You know, Big Dom could have. been, but he's not a player. You know, Nick Serioni, obviously, he's active, so. we wouldn't have been able to pick him, but we loved his coaching style. Andy. Reed not going to get picked. It's just. strictly players only. And there was. only one player that depicted its city.

and its team better than all of the. others. And we searched and scoured. every roster, every player since the. beginning of these teams. Our favorite. player in the history of the Cowboys and. the Eagles organization. Drum roll, please. >> Pais Vince Papali. >> That was a bartender. >> That was a bartender. >> Guy was a [ __ ] bartender. Excuse me. >> In Philadelphia, worked his ass off,

went to a try out, made the team. Not. only did he just make the team, the guy. became the special teams captain for the. Philadelphia Eagles. You're talking. about the city of Philadelphia playing. for the Eagles, reincarnated in one. Italian man with a sweet name in a sweet. flow. NFL Films is able to give us some. footage, maybe footage that you have not. seen before of Vince Papali calling his. own shot, calling his own number on a. punt, knew it was going to happen. because earlier in training camp, he.

learned the vital lesson of if the. knuckles are red or the knuckles are. white, it means they're coming or going. He saw the knuckles. He breaks free, lets the guy straight at the punter, gets down the field, sees the punt. returner, eyes it, times it perfectly. It's a catch, not a muff. That means. that's a fumble. Vinnie Papali. The city of Philly's. going crazy. That's our guy. Holy [ __ ]. That's our bartender. Hey, barkeep. They're saying at the moment, the paons. are losing their mind. He scoops it. No.

way this [ __ ] guy is going to score a. touchdown. The city of Philadelphia from. barkeeping barback to glory pay dirt. Vince Papali is the Philadelphia Eagles. Vince Papali is Philadelphia as a whole. He. >> is. >> And Vince Papali is a touchdown scoring. captain of Philadelphia Eagles. So I. think that is really a tough list to put. together. >> Other people that did not make the list.

but should have. >> the garbage picking, field goal kicking. Philadelphia phenomenon. >> Great pick. >> Barney Gorman. >> Yes. >> Barney Gorman almost made it. >> Should Okay, he was this close. >> Mhm. I'm I'm actually embarrassed I. didn't push for him harder pre-show. >> This close. Barney Gorman. Okay. Cuz it. was a specialist as well. >> What position was Barney? >> He's the garbage picking. You. >> [ __ ]. >> field goal kicking. >> Philadelphia phenomenon. >> I'm not familiar with Barney.

>> Oh Jesus. >> He's a field goal kicking. >> garbage picking man from Philadelphia. Same story as Vince Papali. Just not a. bartender. just a guy who happened to. wear a boot, a working boot and boot the. [ __ ] out of a football for the. Philadelphia Eagles. So Barney Gorman. almost got the call in the top five. Other specialists that could have made. it. Uh David Acres obviously a dog. Savroka an absolute beast out of. Australia. So a lot of people almost in. there including Barney Gorman, but Vince. Papali takes the cake because of how. much he represents what it's all about.

to be an Eagle I think. And then Dion. Michael Irvin, Randall Cunningham, who. had got ripped off on a yard I think for. his punt. Yeah. >> And then Jason Kelsey wraps out the top. five. AJ, and to be clear, I don't think. anything's ever been more right. >> Mhm. >> Yeah. I mean, credit to NFL Films for. giving you that footage. That's amazing. footage we got from uh from the field. and all those Yeah. Amazing coaches and. and shout out to uh the Eagles as well. They were ahead of their time. They Look. at this. They got field turf in like. 1978. >> See the knuckles?

>> Pretty amazing. >> We got field turf back in the day before. it was even invented. So, NFL films was. was doing great. >> No, it was grass. >> What are you talking about? That's. natural grass. >> Yeah. Open your eyes. >> Oh, my bad. >> This is before all the seeds with all. the [ __ ] in it became that was pretty. unfamiliar. >> Better be modified. >> And it's hard to call that. >> in the middle of a punt as well. I think. modern day it's going to be tough to. make a check like that. >> You playing wing or where's What. position is he? >> He was a guy lined up at wing and then. he lets a guy go right at the punter. >> He said you take the punt. >> Just go ahead. Yeah, he did. He kind of.

just threw him at the punter. I'll tell. you what, that'd be a one-way trip out. of town if I was if I was standing back. there in charge, which I would not be. But I like that he made the play. Knew. that he could kind of rip and toss. around, have a clear shot to returner, and then that ball popping out, >> that was nothing but the football gods. blessing Vince Papali for doing. something right. Exactly. >> And uh. >> we're thankful it happened. We're very. thankful it happened. >> How long did Pap Pal play for? >> 10, 12 years, something like that. >> I don't think that is accurate. No, >> I think it was like three years. He.

played I believe he played in 41 of 44. games uh for the Eagles. >> Oh, is this Vince from the Philadelphia. Bell? >> No, he played in the Philadelphia Bell. before he played for the Philadelphia. >> Okay. Okay. Okay. >> Okay. He was he was uh sharpening his. sword. >> cuz he had many on his brain. >> His his hands were. >> Yeah. >> His feet his hair. >> lightning. Tougher than a [ __ ] $2. steak. >> Yeah. And then his feet obviously like. shorebird. Yeah. If you need it. But. he's going to bring the thunder right. here though. >> Mhm. And he's going to say Gennady the.

whole time. Vince Pali number one. overall. That was an easy decision. >> Yeah. >> Barney Gorman though. >> No. No. That was that's not strong. I'm. surprised Kelsey made it now when I look. back on it and think of Barney. >> Yeah. Well, that actually I'm not going. to get I'm not going to say anything. That's my list. >> Okay. Okay. >> Barney Gorman 5A. >> Yeah, I think so. >> Donovan McNab also in there. >> Sure. >> Reggie White. Nah. >> No. >> Reggie White, I remember him more as a. Packer, but I agree. should be in there. I love Reggie White. Should have made.

the list. >> He wasn't a bartender. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> And that's Pelli. >> or a sanitation worker. >> Not over Patelli. >> Or Tony Danza. Tony Danza just edged him. out for five days. >> Barney Gorman. No, there's multiple 5A. >> Tony Dorset, Pittsburgh. There's a few. of those guys. >> Yeah. For the for the Cowboys. I like. him. >> Yeah. >> Um. >> Daryl Moose Johnston. >> Denu. Uh Dench. >> Daryl Moose. >> Cooper Kush. >> Cooper Kush. Definitely. Andy Dalton had. a run there. We saw him the other day. I.

like him. >> Sean Shawn Payeyton. >> Yeah. >> Sharp or Sean or what's Shan Lee? No, not Shan Lee. [ __ ] Jason Garrett. Excuse. me. >> Jason Garrett. >> You know, great great quarterback. >> Great on TV. >> Yeah. >> Rabbit out of the head coming back, you. know, the second time. >> Jason Whitten. Yeah. Unbelievable. >> T Martin. >> T Martin. Yeah. >> Tennessee. >> Albert Haynesworth. >> A lot of great players. >> So many. >> Pac-Man. >> So many. >> Pac-Man. Jones. Holy [ __ ] I remember. him as a Bengal. I should have put him. on.

>> Yeah, >> that's on me. >> That's on me. >> Marian Barber. >> Yeah, but he'd be cool with it cuz you. stood up. >> Oh, yes, >> I did. Especially with the Vince Pali. pick. Nobody saw Vince Pal's number one. But then once I explained it, it kind of. makes sense. >> Yeah. >> All right, let's make our picks for the. night. >> Peter Sher super duper prediction show. coming up in about 42 minutes right here. on ESPN. >> So pumped for it now. >> Detroit Lions not making the playoffs. >> Sorry. >> I love that. He's just hopping right. into fire. >> I don't want to put you on the spot, but. since do you you doing Super Bowl picks? >> I I I don't do that. I live in a moment.

>> Amen. >> With that being said, really like the. Eagles, >> but the Chiefs is still the Chiefs. >> Okay. >> And Danny Dimes, don't let them look at. the hopo meter and get too much. motivation, you know, and what they is. going to happen. Let's start with the. toxic table at Tai Schmidt your pick. tonight as the Cowboys are 8 and a half. point dogs on ESPN bet to kick off the. NFL season. >> Yeah, I was on the Cowboys all morning. and uh the more I look at it, I'm just. seeing the potential of Saquon rushing.

for 175 yards. So, I'm going to flip and. I'm going to I'm going to go with the. Eagles and I think they cover. >> Okay. You like the Eagles covering eight. and a half? >> I think so. A. >> little bit too much positivity for the. Cowboys on this particular show. >> Yeah. I don't know. It's just weird when. so much of the consensus is these guys. have done everything wrong for the last. several weeks. These guys [ __ ] suck. This one player was their entire team, but then a lot of I mean, we we talked. about their offense, their defense. They. still got a lot of good players. I just, man, I can just see the Eagles really. going belt to ass tonight. >> Okay, that is certainly a possibility in.

everybody's eyes. Boston Connor, you've. had one pick all morning. Feels like all. show you've been feeding that narrative. I don't know if he is kind of flippy. floppy like you potentially had on this. particular game. Con man, who do you. like? >> No, I'm steadfast at eight and a half. I. don't think anybody knows his team. better than Mike McCarthy. He was just. there. So, if he feels good about it, I. feel good about it. If you're going to. bet a underdog that is greater than. seven, though, uh throw in a touchdown. for the other team. It'll uh help the. algorithm, give you better odds. So, like a Cowboys plus eight and a half. Jaylen Herz touchdown will really give.

you a little juice for tonight. >> Okay. Jaylen Herz, we assume is going to. get a tush push uh special at some. point. One half of the hammer Cowboys AP. tone. Don't want to give away too much. for Hammer Don, which is going to be. electrifying today. But who do you like. in the game? >> Um, I was al I also waffled a bit. I. didn't know coming into the show, but. Big Mike really convinced me uh to ride. with the puppies tonight and the Cowboys. plus 8 and a2. >> Okay. Tones on the Cowboys plus 8 and a. half. So is Connor. Ty says Eagles blow. them out. AJ, your thoughts?

>> I mean, Big Mike does uh he does sway. whatever you're thinking. I think when. he's so dieh hard on the Cowboys, but I. was leaning Cowboys. I'm definitely. taking the Cowboys plus eight and a. half. I'm going to take the over as. well. >> Okay. I will pick the Cowboys plus 8 and. 1/2 as well. Okay. I uh. >> You're going to jump in on that over? >> No, no, no. I mean, yeah, sure. Why not? >> Last year, just so you know, 47 and a. half. I think it was the same last year. and the score was 2720 when Isaiah. likely ended up. So, they they're on it. when the overunders early.

>> Okay. Well, I'll go with the over as. well. I I enjoy the over. I like the. Cowboys plus eight and a half. I was. Philadelphia Eagles as the show started. and then the more and more I thought. about I was like this gonna be KG affair. dude divisional game doesn't matter like. it's going to be tight I think. >> can the Philadelphia Eagles blow him out. definitely we are big fans of. Philadelphia Eagles Philadelphia Eagles. win Cowboys keep it tight Jaylen Herd. scores a touchdown and the over hits I. mean that's what it that is that is how. I feel like the game is probably going. that mean that's going to take place. absolutely not could be the complete.

opposite we could be in a more fest. tonight or it could be anything that's. why the NFL is the greatest. Uh we have. some news out of the NFL. Amari Cooper. has announced his retirement from the. NFL. He signed with the Raiders uh at. the end of camp. It says hopeful for a. reunion with the team that drafted him. Now he is headed home from Las Vegas. Amari, hell of a career, buddy. >> Oh yeah, >> hell of a career. Quiet, right? That's. what everybody say. >> Super quiet. Loves ball. Obviously, he. was uh with coach Sabin. We learned. about him through him. Uh he's bounced.

around a little bit, but he's always a. playmaker. We appreciate him coming to. the decision of retirement. And if it's. forever, just know you did great on a. football field, pal. And if you end up. coming back, don't feel bad. You're. allowed to do whatever the hell you. want, Mari Cooper. With that being said, all eyes are on tonight. Let's get. excited for tonight. >> Hell yeah. >> Let's get excited for the time that we. are currently alive. There's a lot. taking place over the next few days. And. that just kicks off a season of wonder. that we are about to have. I cannot wait. from the road from tonight all the way. to February. I cannot wait to see who.

becomes a superstar, who becomes the. villain. >> Who gets screwed over and who defies all. the odds. That's football in a nutshell. We're lucky for it. Tonight's going to. be electrifying. Thank you to all that. are covering it. Be a friend. Tell a. friend something nice. It might change. their life. We're in this thing together. and we're probably going to watch no. matter what they did. NFL red zone. >> Sue us. Don't actually. >> Mhm. >> Team on me. Team on three. One, two,

three. Team, goodbye.