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[Music]. >> Hello, beautiful people. and welcome to. our humble abode, the Thunderdome on. this NFL week three kickoff Thursday, September 18th, 2025. This program. begins now. Football. >> is the greatest sport of all time in. week three of the greatest league on. earth will kick off its wonderful. weekend tonight in the AFC East as the. Miami Dolphins will travel to take on. the Buffalo Bills. The Bills 11 and a. half point favorites at ESPN. can find.

them as 12 and a half point favorites at. a couple of the other books. The. dolphins, a wounded. wounded. They're a mammal. >> Yeah. >> Wounded mammal. Big brain. >> Big huge brain. We appreciate dolphins, the mammals, actually. Uh they they do. like to reproduce. And even if they. don't have a chance of reproducing, they. will certainly hit that thing on your. arm or your body if you're in there. swimming with them. But they got big. brains. Okay. I believe the Navy Seals. actually use them to uh circle our ships.

out there. and uh they protect us. So, we appreciate the Dolphins, the mammal. And I'm pumped that Ace Ventura was able. to find that that uh Snowflake, the. Dolphin who was able to kick field goals. because that's a wonderful thing. But. whenever you think about this Dolphins. team of now, you do kind of think about. the Rayfin era of the Miami Dolphins. You think about the 1972 Dolphins and. how they were undefeated. You think. about Dan Marino and the run that he. had, but he was never able to win a. Super Bowl. But at some point, this. Miami Dolphins team is going to be. legendary. They reset the market for.

wide receivers when they brought Tyreek. Hill in. Tula Tongavaloa is an absolute. star. He's going to change it all. McDaniel, this bigrained offensive guru, wakes up at 3:00 a.m. >> That's right. >> This guy loves ball. Obviously, everywhere he's been, he's been. successful and he's unique to himself. He's obviously one of one. We've never. seen a head coach like him before. The. Miami Dolphins were going to return to. their glory days. post Brian Flores's head coaching run. there, which has resurfaced. it has. >> into the new cycle here as of today. But.

this was supposed to be a great run and. now we sit here three years into the. experiment. Tyreek Hill potentially not. going to be a Dolphin by the end of the. year to a tongue of Aaloa potentially. not being a guy and McDaniel the. conversation is is this guy a good head. coach? Well, we got a fun little stat. for you as the Dolphins are 0 and2. traveling to take on the Buffalo Bills. as anywhere from 11 and 1/2 to 12 and. 1/2 point dogs. NFL teams that are 0. and2 and are dogs in week three have. gone 37 and 17 against the spread.

Wounded teams, >> teams that are backed in a corner. normally cover a spread for us. Now. that's not outright wins. No, >> that is not outright wins. That is just. covering the spread. 11 and a half, 12. and a half feels like a lot of points. for a Thursday night game, especially a. division game between the Dolphins and. the Bills. I believe the Bills have won. 11 of their last 12 against the Miami. Dolphins, but they've been games. >> Oh yeah, >> they've been games. just at the end of. those games, one team is able to. execute, one team isn't, which has kind. of been the story of this Miami Dolphins. team, who were in a dog fight with the. New England Patriots just a week, four.

days ago. Now, what will they do. tonight? We shall see. Obviously, Kirk. and I will be on the call. >> Hell yeah, >> we'll be waiting all day for Thursday. night. >> Time's always good for Amazon Prime. >> Pretty good little kickoff show they got. over there. Great, great production. value. And tonight, Buffalo will be. alive. Is this the last? No, it won't be. the last game that we see in this. stadium. >> No, not yet. >> No, they're gonna have a lot of prime. time games this year. Josh Allen, we're. gonna see Josh Allen under the lights a. lot. We talked about everything about.

the Miami Dolphins. On the flip side, this Buffalo Bill Beals team is now. >> they're ready to avenge the four balls. This team is the one that's ready to go. So, in your head, you think to yourself, maybe Josh Allen and Bose's interesting. photo there. Bosa. >> That is not Bosa. >> I don't know. Bosa and Josh Allen. obviously there for the. >> What an interesting photo. >> That's not Bosa. >> I Is this a bone graphic? Is this a bone. graphic? Dirty graphic. >> Yes. Bone.

>> is a bone graphic. He's a Buffalo Bills. fan. Did he try to make Bosa look. thinner? >> Is that Jake Glazer? >> Where? >> Right there. Yeah. >> I guess I could see. >> I could see a young Jake Glazer in. there. >> Nonetheless, >> I thought it was Bron Breaker for a. second. It does have a little bit. >> It does have a little bit of a bron. breaker feel there on the right side. The Buffalo Beals who are Debbone's team. that he just adopted three weeks ago. They are potentially going to win it. all. They potentially best team in ball. Dolphins potentially worst team in bowl.

So them blowing out the Dolphins is. certainly on the table as well tonight. for Thursday night. And I think that. massive question mark gives us a great. way to kick off this week three. The. toxic tables here at Boston Connor at. Tai Schmidt. One half of the hammer. time. Cowboys AP Tone is here. 11 and a. half, 12 and a half point spreads. depending upon the book. ESPN Bet has it. as 11 and a half. That's big for a week. three game, especially on a Thursday. night game. That feels like a lot of. points for any NFL game, let alone early. Thursday uh division. >> Yes. Uh huge. And that'll be tied for.

first or second depending on where the. line closes at for largest spread of the. season. Last week, the Ravens and Browns. was also around 11 and 1/2, 12. The. Ravens did cover that number. Uh it. wasn't on a short week though and this. is one of those things and and you take. a look at the stats the 37 and 17 0 and2. teams in week three uh as dogs again and. a lot of it is like people think they. just look at that 0 and2 number and. they're like oh this team is absolute. trash. It's not always the case. A lot. of the time it's not the case. Um. >> but the sports books kind of think that.

>> they build it in they build in the. public you know to um to take away from. the risk that they have. They they got. to cook that into the number as well. But I have always been a guy who if. losing bets upset you and you went to. bed after tonight like at midnight and. you picked the Dolphins and they lost by. 30, you'd be like what was that? >> Yeah, you're right. It is you know the. pillow talking whenever you have to talk. the other way. >> But when you say I picked this Miami. Dolphins team, this one that we saw week. one in the lighthouse against.

>> potential best football team of all. time, >> Indianapolis. We have no idea what it's. going to be at the end of the season. All these team stories could be. anything. We could be looking at the. greatest season of all time from 10. different quarterback, 10 different. running back 10, but we have no still so. early in it all. But the way we're. viewing the Dolphins at this moment, they could also be the worst team in the. history of ball. They could be one of. the only teams to go completely douffed. They'd be the first team ever to lose 17. straight games in a regular season. They're also the only team to ever go. undefeated throughout the entirety. So,

the Dolphins fans have certainly lived. both worlds, especially if you're 95. years old and you saw those 72 Dolphins. because if you're younger than that, you. haven't really seen that part of it. You've only seen this particular shoe. drop in the entirety. But we have no. idea what the rest of the year is going. to look like. And maybe tonight, tonight. >> that dua. >> and Tyreek get on the same page and. maybe the Miami Dolphins come flying. out. Maybe a Chan stays in bounds on. that cut. It's a long run. Let's go to. the other half of the hammer. Don, Cowboys, Bubba Gumpino, great jersey.

You look fantastic. I know in your heart. of hearts, you're hoping that the. Dolphins do turn us around. And maybe. you do have a Super Bowl team in there. somewhere. And maybe you do have a head. coach that can make adjustments and. rally the boys and keep everybody on the. same page. But in your brain, I think. you're a little bit more negative than. your heart is. Is that an accurate. depiction of how Dolphins fans feel? >> Yeah, Josh Allen never lost to the. Dolphins at home as well. Only lost at. Miami once. But you got to show some. pride tonight. I'm telling you. >> But we're at the show price. >> Oh yeah. Yeah. You got it. You got to.

fight because after this you got the. Jets and you got the Panthers. So say. you keep it close tonight. Say you lose. Then you come back. You win two in a. row. All of a sudden you're two and. three. Season's back on. You got to. fight tonight, boys. Your back's against. the wall. Show some damn pride. >> Don't lose by more than 12 and a half. >> Come on. >> Come on, boys. Gumpy's getting a dub. tonight if this thing is less than a two. scorecore game. >> Sounds like it. It sounds like he's been. and also I assume he's going to cook. together alongside Connor and they'll.

keep it in their inside voices. Won't. share it with anybody. >> Don't even have an inside voice. >> That's true. >> That is true. That is true. >> Won't talk about it when other ears are. around, you know. Won't do they'll have. some sort of touchdown parlay. And. tonight, Gumpy will find a win is what. Gumpy's saying. Con man, from listening. the way you're speaking, you are almost. maybe all the way in the aquarium with. the Dolphins right now. Is that. accurate? >> Yeah, I'm swimming with the fishes and. my fins are up. I I'm not going to go. out there and say, "Hey, my fins are. jumping out of the water and, you know,

I'm having fun and the Dolphins are. going to win tonight." I just think with. the Bills, you know, they're a great. football team no matter what. You, you. know, they could have played the two. worst teams weeks one and two and we. would still know that they're a great. football team. With Miami, like they. lose to the Colts week one, you're not. really sure. I think right now you can. say the Colts are a very good football. team. So, like that loss now, sure, after week one, it was terrible because. they got their asses handed to them, but. now it doesn't look as bad. The Colts. beat the Broncos, like, okay, hold on. Maybe the Colts are good. Patriots, you.

don't know. Patriots lose to the Raiders. and then they beat the Dolphins, you. really don't know if the Patriots are a. good football team yet. So, for Miami, you're not sure. And like the idea that. they're going to get blown out, completely believable. Josh Allen in I. mean, he just threw for 274 yards in the. fourth quarter of a, you know, prime. time game against the Ravens. He can. definitely do that against the Dolphins. without a doubt, but Hungry Dogs run. faster, baby. They need one. They need. one so bad or it really is over. Not. just for the season, but Mike McDaniel, all of a sudden you're you're starting.

to think, does he even get a chance to. play the Panthers in the States? Like. tonight is kind of one of those, >> you're saying that seat's getting uh. >> blistering hot down there on the butt. cheeks of McDaniel. >> Definitely hot Miami. You know, you're. about to experience it. It's hot no. matter what. He's going to be sweating, you know, especially if that's like a. metal chair in the sun. He's going to be. sitting down and his ax cheeks will get. burnt. But I more so think just like. Thursday night if you're going to fire a. coach, right? You got 10 days. You can.

at least three. >> You can at least turn it around a little. bit. Well, it's not week three. We've. got we've done this gimmick. We've done. the two years. We've seen what has. happened. They've traded play. They've. let players go who have then gone on to. be all pro. Van Ginkle and that felt. like a layup. It's not like he was $100. million. You sound like a 2year 15. >> They're saying they lose by 50 tonight. There needs to be some conversations. potentially had or possible. conversations to be had. >> Yeah, exactly. Just just about the whole. thing. Like not. >> got to show some fight, boys. >> Got got to show some fight. Like Tyreek. Hill was number one player in football.

last year at this time. He he got the. huge award. He got the number one award. So, it's one of those things where they. don't have shitty players. They have. good players. So, why they they. shouldn't be getting beaten by third. >> A lot of distractions in Miami. I don't. know how anybody does football down. there to be honest. Well, I'm happy I. didn't get drafted down there. I don't. know if I would have actually survived. I I have no idea if I that would have. happened. And the best truck down the. line. >> Oh, this is a Ram truck. >> No question about it. >> Yeah, the Hemi V8 is back. Fired up and.

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not much worse than anybody else but 0. and2 you have a little bit of a shot 0. and3 history tells us that's going to be. a long road that's a long hole to get. out of so is that why you think team. show a little bit more fight in week. three and at least cover and do you. think this Dolphins team is going to be. on par with that now we watch them. against Colts week one we're we're best. team in both we understand eyes on him. in the lighthouse and then against the. Patriots, they were in that thing. Maybe. should have won that game. Are we giving. up on the Dolphins or how do you feel. about them going into tonight?

>> Listen, I think that they've played. fairly well in Buffalo. Better than. people think and they've played well in. Buffalo and it's been cold out. It's 68. degrees there right now in Buffalo. And. so the weather is not going to be a. factor. And yeah, the Dolphins gave away. the game. If they hadn't given away the. game last week and uh come back and beat. New England, you might have a totally. different perspective on the game. tonight, but it feels incredibly. lopsided. I think it's the biggest. spread of the week on any of the week.

three matchups. >> Y. >> and it just feels like Buffalo should do. what it wants. But look, we all know. what happens in these games. Weird. things happen, strange things occur, and. all of a sudden, a team like the. Dolphins that not many people are. counting on comes through and plays. better than people think. That I think. we get a better Dolphin outing. They. don't have the horses to match up. The. Buffalo Tua himself has said he's half. the quarterback that Josh Allen is this. week. That was an interesting comic. >> They can't do half the stuff. >> Yeah, he's very self-aware.

>> Yeah, I appreciate that. But, you know, that should have been followed up, but. Josh also can't do but it was which is. part of the problem. the issue. Everything's negative coming out of. Miami from our experience right now. And. Gumpy, obviously, diehard Dolphins fan. So, we live with every single news. break, every player release, every Pro. Bowler left out of the building, every. leader get out of the building, every. conversation that seems to just come. back up every two months. Is this guy on. the team? Does he like being here? Does. he not like being here? Coach, everything about it, we've lived through. Gumpy. And Gumpy's always.

literally that is the relationship that. Gumpy as a Dolphins fan has with the. Dolphins. So tonight would be huge for. them is what I'd like to say and huge. for Gumpy. >> I got a good friend who's a Dolphins. fan. He starts ranting to me during. these games that they're losing and and. he doesn't understand. I love him but I. don't really care, you know, when he's. going through his frustrations. Like I. love him, you know. Shout out to Mark. Patricov. Love you Mark. But when the. >> That's your concern. Mine. I love that. Chev's like, "Hey, Mark, you know this.

I don't have personable conversations. You either have information or you. don't." Okay, I don't this the opinion. game. I don't need to hear. Uh now, uh. let's talk about some other topics. Obviously, tonight two and Josh Allen. will be playing. We are now officially. maybe uh at five backup quarterbacks. getting some playing time. Uh Brock. Party might be back. I guess that is. kind of the report coming out of San. Francisco yesterday. >> possibly. Like they think there's a. chance. I guess we'll know more today. I. still think it's, you know, it's. possible. Um, we'll get a better idea.

today and tomorrow. They felt last week. when when we spoke with the Niners over. the weekend, they're like, "Rock. Pie's going to have a chance next week. Not a great chance, but he's got a. chance." And that was exactly what they. said yesterday. So, I I think they've. been holding. I hope that he can make it. back. But M. Jones showed last week that. he's capable of stepping in and playing. well. He helped San Francisco beat New. Orleans in New Orleans last week. So, if. they have to roll with Mack this week, they'll do that. Obviously, they'd like. to have Pery back and we should have.

more clarity here in the next 48 hours, I would think. >> Okay. We're uh polling for everybody's. health. Obviously, this a lot of. quarterbacks out early. You kind of. alluded to Jaden on Monday before any of. us really knew anything about that. potentially being a possibility. He's. out with a mild knee sprain. Then JJ. McCarthy, he's obviously out. Joe. Burrow, he's obviously out. Uh who am I. missing there? No, that's Justin Fields. Fields is out. It's like this is very. early for this many quarterbacks or is. this something we just don't remember. until it happens? >> Well, you know, it's funny. I I said to.

Tai this morning, I said like when you. get Jake Browning and Carson Wentz in. week three, that that's the kind of. matchup that you feel like you normally. get in week 17 or 18. Like, oh, it's. Wentz and Browning. Um, and by the way, the Bengals like Browning and believe in. him and Carson Wentz is has been a great. quarterback against the league for a. while, but it just feels a little odd to. be getting that matchup in week three. when we could have and should have been. getting Joel Burrow versus JJ McCarthy, and it doesn't go that way because of a. couple of injuries here. Um, it it is.

early. This is an unusual amount of. injuries this early in the season for. quarterbacks. There always seems to be a. stretch in the season where all of a. sudden quarterbacks start dropping. Uh. it occurred a little earlier this year, which is never good for anybody. It's. not good for the teams. It's not good. for the quarterbacks themselves. It's. not good for the NFL. Not great for. fans. So hopefully these guys will get. back soon. You know, Joe is going to be. on the show for a minimum of three. months, but JJ two to four weeks and.

Jaden may miss a week or so. Uh Brock. Pury, we'll see if he can get back. Justin Fields in the protocol. the Jets. play on Monday night next week against. the Dolphins. So, he'll have an extra. day to get ready. I would think that. he'd be back assuming he can clear. through protocol, but yeah, a lot of a. lot of quarterback questions for this. early in the season. >> Okay, you mentioned Carson Wentz there. playing for JJ McCarthy. We obviously. experienced the Carson Wentz experience. here in Indianapolis and his good ball. is so awesome. It is electrifying. It is.

great. And then his wild Carson Wentz. experience stuff is obviously very uh. cardiac worthy I I would say through it. all. What is KOC and what are you. hearing out of Minnesota about Carson. Wentz the quarterback that he's going to. be for them and uh his sixth start for. six different teams in six years. Obviously people are talking about how. that's pretty wild in an NFL record. But. what are they expecting from Carson. Wentz? Look, they went out and signed him and.

they traded Sam Hal to the Eagles. knowing that they could get Carson Wentz. as the backup in there. Carson Wentz is. somebody who grew up as a Vikings fan, always wanted to play for the. organization, went to Vikings games as. kids, did the school chance, and now. he's got a chance to kind of live out. his childhood dreams there to go be a. quarterback in Minnesota. Uh, I and. look, if he can succeed, that's going to. be interesting because that's going to. be a direct reflection again on Kevin.

Oonnell being a quarterback whisperer. that he is if he steps in and lights it. up. Um, you're going to start like the. way that M. Jones did last week for San. Francisco, frankly, when we think of. Kyle Shanahan elevating the level of. play of quarterback. So, now that's at. stake here for the Vikings, Kevin. Oonnell. Um, and by the way, if he plays. really well, all of a sudden you'll be. like, "Okay, now you don't have to rush. JJ McCarthy back with them going to with. with, you know, they got to go to um. >> Ireland, London.".

>> Yeah. Back-to-back games before a buy. So, again, if and when WS plays well, then I think that takes some pressure. off you in terms of getting JJ back. >> Who uh McUade's covering the game. >> McQuade is covering both games. >> I think I think McQuade is on the call. over there. Congrats to McUade. Congrats, Michael. I'm happy for you, McQuade. >> Love you, McQuade. >> You need to meet McQuade. He's an Irish. legend. He's He's your He does your job, my job, Tai's job, Gell's job. >> God's job.

>> God's he does in Ireland. He is one of. the him and the Irish uh pro football. >> Irish guys, they are they've been really. been they've been banging the drum for. the NFL in Ireland for a long time. >> The pipe, >> they're getting Yeah, I'm sorry. They've. been playing the pipel. They've been splitting the G's. playing the live music. They've been. doing the whole thing for the NFL for a. long time over there. And getting a. chance to see them get a chance to do. like the NFL taking care of them. Yeah.

I think he's very I'm happy to see that. Okay, let's stay in the NFC North. You. talked about Carson Wentz potentially. being the starter for the Minnesota. Vikings for the rest of the season is. what I heard. >> Yeah. Chance. >> What I heard right there. Mhm. >> No, no, that's not what you heard there. But okay. >> Okay. Rush. Got it. I got no rush to get. JJ back though. That is good. Got an. experienced vet. That's why you pay him. Allegedly, they also offered Daniel. Jones. They were looking for an. experienced veteran uh for whatever. happens, whether it's injury or, you. know, if JJ just plays not great at all, which we still have yet to see. Very.

young in his career. I'm excited to see. how that all goes. Carson Wentz. experience could be. >> Oh, yeah. I mean it could but it could also I. guess have a little bit of a hum. >> like Sam Darnold stepped in there and. Sam Darnold lit it up like. >> different styles of play. I I think. different style Carson Wentz. you know they say Brett Favre gunslinger. that guy. >> Okay. Because he was he had trust in his. arm and faith in his arm. >> Carson Wentz not only gunslinger he's a. runslinger as well. Like he thinks his.

legs can beat everybody. They he thinks. his shoulders can beat every He thinks. his every play he can he can beat. everybody and it is awesome when he does. it. When he does beat everybody, it's. amazing. Bouncing on a ball, throwing. that thing into five. >> What would. penta? >> Yeah. Yep. >> Penta coverage. >> I don't even know if that's what that. would be. Throw it into five people on. somebody and still make the catch. Yeah. Zero. >> Zero coverage. >> Yeah. Yeah. That would be exactly what.

it is. And then if he can like Sam. Darnold, not same as Carson, but if. Kevin Oonnell can wrangle Carson Wentz. into all the positives, >> that boy's going to fly. >> Carson Wentz might get $150 million of. >> an MVP. All right, let's move forward. Let's stay in the NFC North. Go ahead, con man. >> Yeah, Chefy, I'm going to have Foxy run. this clip about the Bears. I'm going to. ask you about Ben Johnson here. >> I think our practice habits are are yet. to reflect the championship caliber. team.

He's a He's a psychopath. Um I love Ben. Johnson. I think this is awesome. Him. talking about practice habits. Everyone. was kind of saying, "Hey buddy, you're. the head coach. Like why don't you fix. it then?" Um that is a question for. sure. I think another thing would be. what about the quarterback? Feels like. the quarterback and the leaders of that. team would be someone who kind of. figures practice out. What's going on in. Chicago? Sheffy, it feels like it's much. worse, much quicker than anyone could. have really thought. And is there a. chance that we do see uh Agent Be Tyson.

Bean play football this year? >> Boy, we're getting to the Tyson Beijing. question in the early part of the. program. >> It's not good, Chef. >> They're paying him money. >> Yeah, >> they're paying him money. >> Listen, uh Caleb Williams, they brought. in Ben Johns to fix him. I'm not going. to tell you that eventually. At some. point, if Caleb struggled that they. couldn't get there, that's a down the. line thing. And if they do, that's going. to be quite the story and quite the. conversation. I think right now. obviously they're focused on getting. Caleb Williams right, but there are. issues. He has a lower completion.

percentage this season than he did last. season. >> So again, the idea was to bring in Ben Johnson, elevate Caleb Williams, uh beef up the. offensive line, get everything humming, and I think that this just shows you. it's going to take a little bit of time. for everybody to get acclimated. And. when Ben Johnson's talking to reporters. about the practice habits sometimes, you. know, Jimmy Johnson used to say that you. don't speak to the media, you speak. through the media. So I wonder if that's. a case where he's speaking through the.

media to get a message to the players. that our practice habits are not at a. championship level. They're not where. they need to be and they need to be. better. Now, you could say that to the. team. You could say it publicly and have. people carry the message for you. He. chose to go the public route. And these. questions are all going to come up as. long as they don't win. And now they got. Matt Ibraflu coming in there. Their. former the Bears have lost six straight. home games. Like there are a lot of. issues that they have to quiet down. And. the only thing that stops all that is a.

W. That's it. They don't win the noise. All this noise going to increase get. louder. >> But is the fune of the sweets going to. be good? Remember Kevin Warren? >> That is perfect right now. >> Yeah, because Arlington Heights is where. remember that from Hard Knox. M. >> I watched John Taffer on Bar Rescue and. the people will bottleneck here. But if. we do this with this particular. direction, >> we'll have good fun. I had no idea Kevin. Warren was designing the suits in the. stadium as well. >> He's pretty Yeah, he did.

>> Mhm. >> If the fun is good, maybe they'll be. good there. Maybe they're waiting to get. to that stadium to be good at football. Or. >> maybe Ben Johnson is just trying to put. his There. We have seen this before, right? Matt Patricia whenever he went up. to Detroit tried to institute uh. something that didn't end up working. out. Cleveland man went over there. He. had like 6 a.m. rookie Oklahoma drills. taking place. I think I heard horror. stories about that coming through to our. locker room. >> Flores Miami. >> Flores trying never really worked out. But there has been obviously places. where it has worked out. >> Yes. It's better than them. It's better. that way, right? Than than letting the.

team walk all over you. >> I mean if you suck and you never get the. whole team to buy you doesn't matter. either way. So that's what I'm saying. Like Ben Johnson's going to stay. steadfast on who he is from what we've. learned. The Chicago Bears obviously. paid him a lot of money to be the head. coach. We're assuming that they stick. with him instead of lot like locker room. needs to get on board with Ben Johnson. is how everybody feels in Chicago. >> No, it's his show there. Like he's the. guy and he's got a lot of security there. as it should be. Um he waited a long. time for the opportunity that he wanted.

and that he chose. He chose Chicago and. obviously there are issues to address. That's why he was being hired. All. right. Uh, let's talk about some issues. to address. Got big money problems. happening. Go ahead, Ty. >> Yeah, Sheffy. Earlier when Tom Brady. first became a minority owner of the. Raiders, people brought up the, you. know, hey, this is a conflict of. interest. This cannot happen. And then. it kind of just went away until we saw. him in the booth on Monday night with a. headset on and then the report came out. Hey, he's actually talking with Chip.

Kelly five to six times a week, you. know, kind of breaking down the game. plan and and setting up what they're. going to be doing on Sundays. And a lot. of people weren't happy about it. Uh, from what you're hearing around the. league or people that you're talking to, is this going to come to a head at some. point? Because I assume that most teams. think this is [ __ ] and they're irate. about it. >> I I think there are certain people like. there are coaches that don't like it. But look, here's the deal. Tom Brady's. on the production team. He's coming into. your building. You could tell him. whatever you want or not tell him.

whatever you want. And Tom is smart. enough in the seen enough football that. he could scout those players and know. what he needs to know about those. players without hearing it from the. coaches, too. I I I understand the. appearance of it all, the conflict at. all, but I I'm not I'm not worked up. over it like some people are. I don't. think it's a huge deal to me. Like. >> he is a limited partner in the team. If. he wants to go sit in the booth with. headphones on and can offer. >> call plays [ __ ]. go do what he wants to do. It's his.

team. >> Score nine points this day. >> Yeah. >> Tom Brady's in the building. He owns the. team. >> Might help. >> Can't score a damn touchdown. >> Let me get these headset. >> Chip Kelly. Hey, you need to tighten up. What if he is just doing what Carly Ers. had been doing on the sideline? >> What if Tom just wants to hear what all. the coaches are saying? Let me see how. they're communicating with each other. Let me see how they're talking. because. he could just be trying to evaluate his. own business that he currently runs and. currently owns. With that being said, a. lot of other teams saying, "Well, why. the hell would we let if this guy's.

strategizing for another team, why would. we let him in?" And then Ben Johnson. came out and said, >> "Yeah, >> we don't care.". >> This is what Ben Johnson had to say. about Tom Brady being in the booth and. then also having to play the Raiders. >> He wasn't the only one. >> He's affiliated with the Raiders. obviously, but you play next week. Are. you going to do that production meeting? careful kind of how much you divulge. >> Man, I've been careful everything I've. said since the season started. I' I've. been in pure coach speak mode.

>> Me, it's just business as usual. I'm. just fine. I like Tom and uh we have a. really good rel relationship. So, >> to add question on on Brady, you've got. one of the most competitive people in. the history of the sport. >> crying around for information. world. How do you reconcile the conflict. of interest that exists with the whole. situation? >> Yeah. Um, like I said, I'm really not. worried about it. I mean, we change week. to week in terms of what we do. Uh, schematically, he he's going to be able. to turn on the tape and see what. everyone else in the world's seeing. right now. Um, personnel wise, really.

the same thing. It's it's not like I'm. going to sit down with him and tell, hey, don't do this to Caleb Williams or. you might get it. Like, I'm not going to. there's not going to be any trade. secrets that are going to be exchanged. But, um, I I just I really don't think. it's that big of a deal to be honest. with you. On that note, Sheffy, our. source. have told us that a lot of those. meetings with Tom have become coach, coordinator, player, PR person asking. Tom questions about what Tom would do in.

situations or how like quarterbacks have. been taking the opportunity to pepper. Tom Brady with questions and he's been. very open allegedly wanting to give back. to the game. So interesting storyline. here that's developing. But with how. paranoid all NFL teams are and how. paranoid NFL fans have become, especially with what the Patriots have. been caught up in, you know, and very. public stuff, this is a perfect. storyline for some real conspiracy. fodder. But I think what the actuality. of it right now, now who knows what, two. years now, 3 years from now, four years. from now, however long this goes, but.

right now I think it's a lot of people. getting info from Palm and uh what if. that production meeting actually becomes. >> Tom spilling the beans on Chip Kelly's. >> what we like to do. It's interesting, Chefty. It really is interesting. >> By the way, everybody should be going to. him for advice. Everybody in the. organization, he can help everybody. like he should be helping the coaches on. play call goals and giving the personnel. department ideas on players he likes and. talking to the players about being more. pliable like yeah I mean there's a.

reason he's the goat you know and by the. way Ben Johnson wasn't the only coach. Brian Shottenheimimer came out and said. he doesn't care what he says to Brady in. a meeting and Shawn Payeyton came out. and said he doesn't care so you're. hearing a lot of head coaches are there. people other people who are leery sure. there are I'm sure there are big deal. again if he's coming into your building, you control what you tell him. Just like. if just like if there's a reporter that. calls up like I could ask, "Hey, what's. going on with the draft?" They're not. going to tell, "Well, here's our board,

Adam. We're. like, "Okay, but but don't tell anybody, right?" Like, I mean, you're going to be. selective with what you share and who. you share it with. >> Use some discretion. It's not hard. I. appreciate the head coaches coming out. being like, "Let's not talk about how. those meetings are going actually. because Tom, two minutes left. We have. one timeout." Okay. What are you uh I. think that is what BA said the same. thing. BA was like, "This production. meetings are all [ __ ] They're. whatever you want them to be." Literally. whatever you want them to be. And we. have coach McCarthy joining us here in.

the second hour. I'll be excited to hear. his take. I assume he's on every coach's. side that we have heard. But it is weird. having an owner just waltz into a. strategy meeting with people. First time. ever, but Tom Brady's the first ever of. who the hell he is. Go ahead, AP Tone. >> Yeah, Shifty, I wanted to talk to you. about 0 and2 teams. I think there's. different levels to O and two teams and. the the top level what everyone I think. assumes is the Kansas City Chiefs, but. they are still 0 and2 with uh tough. games against uh the Chargers and the. Eagles last weekend. Is there is there.

any sort of panic that you're hearing. coming out of Casey or is it or is it. not panic at all? because they've. started season slows just like the. Patriots used to start some seasons slow. and they're probably going to be there. in the end. >> Well, I don't I don't think there's. panic there, but there are issues that. they have to work through and correct to. turn it around because. um we looked at it since 2000, I think. there have been 118 teams that have. started 0 and3 over the last 25 years. And uh of those 118 won the 2018 Houston.

Texans turned around and made the. playoffs. So, you know, the Chiefs. margin of error is gone and they're in a. division where the Chargers are better. than people realize. The Broncos. obviously lost last week, but they're. expected to have a good season. The. Raiders have been tough. Uh so, I think. they're in a tough division, in a tough. conference. You can you can lose games. and yes, we all know the talent and. brains that are there, so we expect them. to turn it around. But, you know, if if.

they happen to lose Sunday night in New. York to go to 0 and3, that that's a. little bit of a problem. And right now, you know, they're missing. explosive players on the offense side of. the football. It looks like they have a. chance to get back. Xavier Worthy on. Sunday night. Jaylen Royals, the rookie. wide receiver, could be back. That'll. also help some. So, they need some. reinforcements until Rasheed Rice can. come back in week seven. But 0 and two, you're behind the eight-ball. And so you. just feel like you're playing catch-up. all year long. It's tough physically.

It's tough mentally. They're the they've. won Super Bowls. They're the They've got. a champs mentality. They've got talent. All but at 0 and2, you got some things. that you got to work through. >> Okay. Uh let's go to tonight's game. Talking about things to work through. Here's the full injury report that we. have it right here as we look. It's week. three. Um. >> so uh anything that we need to look at. here? anything before we make our picks. at 12 1/2 or 11 and a half that we need. to know? >> Well, I I think it's interesting that.

Storm Duck is out for the Dolphins. He. was a starting quarterback at a position. where they've already been decimated. with injuries and so that's a tough one. to lose the number of players that they. have. >> Perfect name for a Dolphin. >> Yeah, absolute dog. >> Hey, Storm, it's a great name. Uh, and he's a. good player and they're going to be. missing him tonight. Um, the Bills. obviously missing those two defensive. guys, Ed Oliver, Matt Milano. Those are. two losses for the Bills. Obviously,

Jaylen Wadd questionable for tonight. with the show. They're hoping he goes. We'll see whether or not he's out there. Um, if he's not, then Malik Washington. would have to step up and they'd have to. rely on other people. But that Storm. Duck one is the one that that I think to. me, if I'm a Dolphins fan, worries me. Okay. >> I'm a Dolphin. >> All right. All right, we appreciate the. hell out of you, Chefty. Thank you for. joining us, brother. >> Thank you guys. Have a great day. >> Hey, you have a great weekend of. football. >> You, too, my friend. >> Numbers are up. Numbers are up across. the board for football as a whole. It's. a good time. How about Michigan.

Nebraska? How do you feel about that? >> Well, do you see uh the bet that those. guys have for the for this weekend? >> The boys. The boys. Yeah. No, guys. The. boys. The busting with the boys. Boys. Yeah. The boys. The boys. Yeah. The. boys. The boys. The boys. >> Somebody losing their hair, you know, for the team that loses. Somebody's. losing their hair. >> Yeah. And I think it was a $50,000. donation and also a concession of the. 1997. uh code title. >> Wow. >> This particular game. >> Holy [ __ ]. >> Yeah. Obviously, uh Michigan at Nebraska. favored by one and a half. Will Compton.

has to feel very comfortable with this. team versus any of the other teams since. the busing with the boys have started. the busing bowl. So, the one that this. one's the big one. This one's worth. 50,000 shaving the whole head and also a. former national championship. This is a. big one, dude. Yeah, it's a huge game, Shafty. Good luck to your Michigan team. >> Where's college game day Saturday, Pat? >> We are in uh Miami. Florida. Miami. >> Nice. Okay, great. Well, that'd be fun. to go down there for the Florida Miami. game, right? >> Yeah, it' be great.

>> Shafty, I am pumped to get down. I've. never been down to the U. Okay. Lot of. Never been there. >> Never. I've been to the city of Miami. before. Yes. Uh played in a Super Bowl. down there. Uh, but when you talk about. the U, its history to football, its. importance to ball, I've never been on. their campus down there. I guess we're. going to go check it out this weekend. I. can't wait. Florida vers Miami. >> Can There was some other games. >> Sure. A few. >> There were some other games that were. certainly being chatted about, but I. know the people at Miami from my.

conversations with them thus far, very. pumped to have us down. Like. >> very eager to have us down there. Juiced. I I would say that is a good way. to describe the match. juice for us to. be down there. So that's that's really. what I think is most important is like. is the fan base pumped for us to be. there, you know, because that changes. the whole show. >> Well, but are are they never are they. ever not pumped for game day in an area? >> Well, you're right. I mean, every very. shout out to the college football fans. that show up to game day. We are very. thankful for them. But there are some.

schools that get game day a lot and like. I don't want to say that you know maybe. there has been a little luster lost by. some in some places. >> going to Bama in Georgia sucks sometimes. >> and even potentially Columbus every once. in a while state every once in a while. we'll go there and people are like yeah. we cuz Tennessee when it was ice cold. like took game day you know like those. places get it a lot so it's like they're. very used to it kind of being there. So.

when we go to places it isn't normally. at which for instance last year Indiana. was insane. >> That's awesome, right? >> James Madison a couple years ago absurd. Absolutely absurd. Kansas was sick. Cal. Berkeley was unbelievable. Now obviously. big games have to happen those weekends, but like Miami I we haven't been game. day hasn't been there since I've been a. part of this. So I think there should be. some real excitement. >> They were great last year. >> Now with that being said, >> Illinois, Indiana, the place would have. went crazy. >> That's a big game. I mean, the busing. bowl.

>> Yeah. >> You know, maybe the busing bowl would. have gone absolutely ham. Missouri, I. think, has uh. >> they do. South Carolina. >> Yeah. So, that was a big one. I think. the people like there's obviously big. games each week. So, there's a lot of. conversation here. Uh but I'm excited to. get down to Miami. They they seem to be. very eager to have us down there and. obviously showcasing this Miami team and. also I guess Napier's Florida team. because this could be the end. >> Yeah, for sure. >> This could be the end if that thing goes. the other way. So, it's there's a lot of. implications this weekend, but yeah, we're in Miami. It's going to be hot as. hell. Shifty, >> my last thing for you before you uh kick.

me out of here. How cool. Pat, there's. no reason you can't come back and. volunteer to punt for the Colts these. days. Like, there's no reason. Just go. >> Right. >> Good one, Sher. >> Rigberto Sanchez when his time is. called. We'll be up two fourth quarter. backed up in your own end. Got to flip. field cuz field goal would win it for. the other team. Rigberto's first punt of. the season. >> Yeah. Week nine. Good luck out there, buddy. Go hit a big one, bro. Need you. to hit a big one. He will. He will.

deliver just like you do every time. We. appreciate you. Ladies and gentlemen, Adam Sher. >> Yeah, Chef. >> Joining us now, one of the coaches of. the bus and bold, ladies and gentlemen. We're incredibly lucky that he's been. joining us every single week of this. college football season. He's the host. of a podcast called House Rules. Ladies. and gentlemen, he is a college football. coaching legend. He uh coached in the. NFL and now he loves his time with an. undefeated Corn Husker squad taking home. Michigan at home as underdogs. Ladies. and gentlemen, Coach Matt Rule. >> Yeah, coach.

>> How you doing, coach? >> What's up, brother? How you doing, man? >> Life is good. Thank you so much for. joining us. How is life over there in. Nebraska? Obviously, we've been uh. winning by a lot. We've been setting. precedent. Now, we got a huge one where. you're underdogs at home. What is the. mindset this weekend? >> I think we're excited. Um, you know, this is an excellent football team. coming in. It's the Big 10 opener and as. you said, it's a ranked opponent. It's. going to be a crazy atmosphere here. Um, and and uh we think we have a pretty. good team. So, we're expecting a heck of. a game, a lot of fun.

>> The busing bowl is obviously what this. has been dubbed because Taylor Lewan, I. think fivestar recruit out of high. school, first round draft pick, incredibly handsome, very tall, represents Michigan. and Will Compton, the walk-on undrafted busted grill. 9-year linebacker special team dog, represents the Nebraska Corn Huskers. from the Busting with the Boys podcast. Uh, obviously they've tried to make this. a thing for a few years now. This year. feels like getting very real in the.

momentum and I feel like you guys have. your best team for this and I think. Michigan as being favored, they feel in. a good spot as well. Is this the perfect. time for the bus and bow to actually. launch into real inseason hype and. expectation? >> Yeah, absolutely. I mean, uh, you know, we played the game two years ago and it. was, you know, everyone was here, Will. was here, uh, Taylor was here, and, you. know, we didn't, you know, they were a. much better team and it wasn't a very. close game. And so, um, you know, it. it'll it'll be a great game. Two two two. really good teams. And, uh, uh, it it's. what the Big 10 should be all about. You.

know, good rivalries. Uh, uh, you know, we're not too far away from each other. I'm sure they'll bring a lot of fans. our fans will be ready and uh it'll be. it'll be a great college football game. to go along with all the other games. >> All right, let's talk about the onfield. uh stuff. Cincinnati was able to run a. little bit uh first night obviously. quarterback able to move as well. Uh is. that the big conversation point for your. team is we're going to have to stop. Michigan's run even though Biff is the. acting head coach and he let Bryce spin. it a little bit more than maybe Chiron, but that is that the we got to stop the. run is the only mindset on the defensive.

side. Yeah, they're they're they're 15th. in the country in rushing offense and. and to your point last week, you know, uh quarterback was the leading rusher. So So the things that bothered us. against Cincinnati, you know, they ran. for 200 yards and over 100 of that was. the quarterback just, you know, you. know, Sorsby from Cincinnati dropped. back and found a hole and ran and we we. didn't have a great answer for it. Obviously, that hasn't hurt us the past. two weeks, but we're facing, you know, we're facing a whole different animal. now. And so, uh, big physical O line, you know, that's what Michigan football. is, right? They're going to, you know, they're going to run the ball and stop.

the run. It's it's true Big 10 football. and now they have a quarterback who can. also run. So, our guys are going to have. to our guys are going to have to defend. the run and defend the quarterback run, you know, to to play well. >> Have you seen Bryce at Big 10 days? Have. you seen this 17-year-old as of a month. ago, now 18? Have you had eyes on this. guy in real life? >> No, I I haven't. It's weird now with the. Big 10 because there's 18 teams. They do. three days and they do they do uh I. think six teams each of the of the five. other teams in us. The only team that we. played while we were there was Maryland. You know, it was Ruckers. It was Ohio.

State. It was it was a bunch of teams. that, you know, we don't even face this. year. So, it's it's really like the NFL, man. You don't know who you're going to. face. Even the Busing Bowl, like, you. know, we faced him two years ago, not. last year. We faced him this year. Um, it's a rotating schedule, but he he's. really talented, elite recruit, and uh. he he's done a great job for them. You. know, we think we have a really good. quarterback, too. And so, excited to. excited to go compete. >> Yeah. Tell me about Dylan. Obviously, this the biggest game of the year. Much. more comfortable where he's at. EMTT, obviously, a dog in the back field. Tell. us about your offense a little bit. taking on this Michigan defense with,

you know, uh, a defense that hunts over. there in Michigan. Always going to bring. a lot of different uh, disguises and. everything like that. >> Yeah, I mean, it's Wink Martinddale, you. know, I mean, he's he's he's one of my. favorite coordinators in the National. Football League. He's brought it to. college. I mean, they they they're lead. up front. They can blitz. They they show. a bunch of different stuff to you. Um, but, you know, we have a we have a. really smart uh quarterback in Dylan. He. can he can try to get us on the right. play. he can try to get us in the right. protection when he's fooled. Um he's. done a great job. You know, he's he's. completing 70 some% of his passes yet he.

hasn't thrown a interception and really. only one that even had a chance to be. intercepted. So he he's a really really. smart football guy. You you would love. him. Um um he's a football guy. He's in. here all week studying. Last week I we. finished the game last week. I went to. Vegas to watch Bud Crawford and he's. texting me pictures of him in his house. He's already watching Michigan. He's, you know, he's trying to outwork me. And. so uh I I respect our quarterback Dylan. quite a bit. So, it'll be a great chess. match, him versus that Michigan defense. with what they do. >> Hey, coach, hope you're enjoying. Allegiance Stadium in Big Las Vegas is.

what I got going on. How about Bud? Obviously a Nebraska guy. Anybody can be. a nobody. We had him on the show earlier. this week and he was talking about how. everybody doubted all the people that he. fought in his record and he basically. said anybody can turn into a nobody. whenever he looks at it. And I seen you. kind of adopted that as well with the. messaging that you're sending the. players. I think your strength coach was. talking about it in your office. >> Yeah. Yeah, no, no, no doubt. Uh, uh, since I've gotten here, you know, I've. always known who obviously uh, Terrence. Bud Crawford is, but getting to know. him, um, I mean, he's elite. He talked.

to the team last year, let us out. against Colorado and and literally there. was no chance you were going to lose. once he would once once he spoke to the. team and he started walking up that. tunnel, I was like, man, this is. different here, you know, pound-for-pound king. And then, you. know, I went to his sendoff and he had. so much respect for Canelo and he was. talking about how they're both first. ballot hall of famers. Yet when they. went to the weigh-in, I showed our team, he wasn't talking about if if I beat. him, if this, if that. I mean, he risked. his whole legacy. He was talking about. when, you know, when I he's never even. been knocked down. And so, we went to.

that fight, man. I was just I was so. fired up, so happy. You talk about a big. day for the Corn Huskers, man. I mean, he's got the Nebraska N on his. mouthpiece fighting, you know, we go. backstage afterwards and see him and all. his guys are all wearing Husker red. I. mean, he's loyal. And so, it's a great. message for our guys, man. No stage is. too big for for you when you put the. work in and you believe in yourself. >> Oh, I love that. Coaches being able to. utilize anything for their own. motivation, for their own team hype is. glorious. Let alone when you got the guy. literally in your backyard. I was.

talking to people that were in the. boxing world a little bit and they're. like, you know, Canelo moved. He's uh, you know, he's living his life. He's had. a couple hundred million dollars for a. long time. Uh, you know, maybe things a. little bit different. Uh, Bud still. lives in Omaha. He's got seven kids. like he is, you know, still I don't want. to say in the grind, but still very much. like doesn't even realize basically the. money or hasn't done any of that. And I. picked Canelo to win cuz I thought he. was heavier on the show. I did that. And. I got a call that night from like three. people that were like, "Yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, but still, did you see Bud?

Did you see what he looked like at the. weighin? Did you have you heard the way. he was talking? It's like, and he's. American. We need him right now." It's. like, I messed up. And then you watch. that fight and it's like in the ninth. round, Bud wasn't scared as [ __ ] Bud. was like, "Let's go. Let's go. Hang. Let's He's heavier. He's should be a. harder puncher than he's ever faced.". Yeah. Let's go dance here. I could lose. the entire fight just with one catch and. instead he stepped right into the fire. It's like massive respect for both them, but also definitely for Bud. And we saw. that end. >> Oh yeah, >> we saw that end a lot in the biggest.

fight of the century they're calling it. >> And right on the mouth. I mean, it's a. it's a cool thing for the brand. Good. for you. Tone has a question for you. >> Yeah, coach. you have one of the uh best. play callers in the country, if not the. best player caller in the country, a. veteran in Dana Hogerson. Um, but it was. a very rare move. You brought him in, I. think it was week 11 last year. How big. was that for him and Dylan to get some. actual live game experience last season. before the before spring ball, before. summer, and then the offense looks like. it's flourished uh this year? >> Yeah. You know, no, no one had ever.

really done it. you know, we we we we. lost to UCLA a week after playing pretty. well against Ohio State, and I called. him and said, "Hey, I need you here. I. need you to, you know, get this fixed. The guys are working hard, but um we we. need we need something moving forward.". And so, I think it was pivotal because, you know, Dana had to decide if he. wanted to be here this year, and he. finished that year out and he said, "Yeah, I'm all in for this." Like, can. him and I work together? And it's been. an unbelievable relationship. And then. he and Dylan, I mean, every every team. in the country uh came in and and and. recruited Dylan. Hey, hey, come play for.

us. come play for us. And you know, he. he believed in what we're doing. He's a. he's a Husker, but he also believed in. Dana. And so I think that time um and. then we kept the staff like I said to. Dana, do you want to change anybody out? How do you feel? He's like, no, I like. these guys. They're good coaches. We'll. make this work. And so it's um it to me. it's been a it's been a unusual move, but one I'm glad we made because. everyone came back this year and we're. significantly better. >> I bet Dana loves just being able to. focus on the offensive side of the ball. than uh all the [ __ ] that comes with. being a head coach too at this stage of. his career. Yeah. A couple times I said.

to him like, "What do you think?" And. he'll give me both perspectives like, "Well, you know, you can do this or do. this." But that's your job now. >> Where's my. >> So happy. >> Where's my red bullet? That I got to worry about one side of. the ball for you. >> That sounds like a you problem right. there, buddy. I've been there before. He. uh he was great offensively for West. Virginia and obviously down to Houston. And him just being able to lock in on. that without having to deal with all the. politics and all the hand shaking and. everything like that. Feels like it's. great for him. Sounds like it's great. for you as well. Connor has a question.

for you, coach. >> Coach, with the last two weeks being not. cupcakes, but teams that aren't ranked. like Michigan, um it feels like, you. know, the videos we saw of you were very. raw, you know, getting the team going, making sure they stay locked in. Is it. different this week when you're playing. in Michigan where everyone is kind of, you know, zeroed in, laser focused at. all times because it is such a tall. task? And you know, you did just mention. right there Bud Crawford leading. Nebraska out and you went to Bud's game. match rather last week. Can we expect.

Bud maybe to lead the Nebraska Corn. Huskers out on Saturday? >> You know, you know, I don't I don't know. that. I mean, he he I tried to call him. the other day and he's like, "Hey, I I. got the McAfee show right now, bro. I. don't. got. I mean, I I people have reached out to. me. I mean, I'm talking about superstars. not that don't know me but have called. someone out like I mean what he's done. is like to your point it's a fight of. the century. >> Chappelle front row. >> going crazy. It's like that's one of the. big Yeah. Yeah. I understand he's big. >> No doubt. I mean so yeah. So I don't.

know. I don't know how that'll play out. I mean he's got a lot of things going on. but uh we know he's the day that he. decides to come in uh we'll be here. ready for him. And you know I think the. the thing that the videos that we. released I mean those were both at. halftime. And so to me like leading up. to the game you always have a different. approach every week depending on who it. is. like if I have to sit here and yell. and scream about, hey, we better be. ready. This is a, you know, I think. everyone here knows what the University. of Michigan means and they know how good. of a team this is, that, you know, we. better be pretty locked in. For me, that. was about at halftime being like, hey, this isn't good enough. And, um, you.

know, year one, I couldn't have done. that, you know, uh, with all the teams. Year two, we kind of could, but some. guys have been like, why is he saying. this? Year three, they were you you see. our players, I mean, it's one thing when. they show me, but our players are. saying, "Hey, this isn't good enough.". And so, um, we understood playing. playing the teams we faced. We're trying. to get ready for the Big 10 because the. Big 10 is a a different animal and it. starts this week. You know, we we we've. been working to get ready. >> On that note, Tai has a question for. you. >> Yeah, coach. I believe the Big 10 is. currently like 42 and five or something. like that in that in that neck of the. woods and a lot of people, you know,

there's. >> top 15 teams, I think. >> Yeah. Yeah. There you go. Uh there's. still a lot of the talk about, you know, the SEC being the superior conference. and then people were even cherrypicking. early in the year saying, "Hey, look at. all the cupcakes the Big 10 teams are. playing." But every week when you have a. a game like this, does it almost cuz we. we know who's at the top of the Big 10. currently and we have a couple team, you. know, you guys are one of those teams. who are kind of right there. Does it. does it feel like a lot of these games. are almost like playoff eliminators? So. you cuz you know every week in the Big. 10 you're going to have a team that hey.

if we don't play well we're going to get. beat and we might only have you know one. or two opportunities you know for the. rest of the year to actually solidify. our our chances of being in the playoff. >> Yeah. I think I think the SEC is an. elite conference. I think the Big 10's. an elite conference. I think you know. two things can be true, right? I think. the one thing that the SEC has done a. great job of is they've branded. themselves as the SEC. >> And when you look at the last 25 years I. think four teams have won national. championships. You guys can I could be I. might could be wrong. Yet, when we talk. about the SEC, we talk about all the. other teams as well. It's not just the.

Alabamaas, the Georgia, the LSUs, the. Florida. It's it's it's the whole. league. And so, people, you know, the. the the tier of guys that are like 9 and. three, 10 and two, they, you know, they. they still get a lot of street credit. when we do the voting and all that. You. look at Illinois last year, you know, took Penn State down to the wire, they. finished nine and three, and they're. they're barely in the conversation. and. the Big 10. We talk a lot about the top. four teams, but you know, this is the I. said on a podcast to house rules, not to. not the free shout out. I'm just joking. Um, but I said like, you know, division.

one football is the only football league. where weather doesn't have an impact in. the offseason in in the postseason. Like. in the NFL, being in Buffalo, being in. New England, being in cold, being in. Kansas City when it's cold, like you. have to play through people's homes. In. the FCS, Montana, North Dakota State, those places matter. The Big 10, man, you got to you got to go on the road. You got to play in the weather. You got. to play in different. We're trying to. plan out going to Maryland and coming. back and going all over the country. And. so I think as a league we have to do a. great job of talking about the Big 10, not just Ohio State, Michigan, Penn. State, Oregon. Those are great teams,

but Illinois, Indiana, USC, there's a. Washington played for the national. championship two years ago. Hopefully. us. I mean, there's a lot of them. So to. your point, you know, you don't have a. lot of free chances if you're not in. that upper conversation, but there's. really good teams in the Big 10. I think. the Big 10's really strong top to. bottom. Yeah, it I think the. conversation is going to change. I've. mentioned this a couple different times. I don't know if you've heard me say it, so if I said it to you, I apologize for. repeating myself, but all of a sudden, whenever the ranking happens at the end. of the season and the college football. playoff is being talked about, we have. an SEC team, a good SEC team traveling.

into Big 10 and the style of roster that. you have to have in the Big 10 at that. time in the most important ball. certainly paid off. Going to have to be. a little bigger, can't be as fast. You. got to have a little bit more. physicality. You can't just run four. threes everywhere because it might be. negative 555 degrees or whatever the. hell it was at Ohio State for that game. So interesting dynamic obviously being. added into it. Everybody understands Big. 10 SEC are at the top, but the Big 12. got Rich Rod. Let's not forget the ACC. We'll see how it goes. Hey, last.

question here quickly cuz I need to get. your uh opinion on this. I've talked to. a couple different coaches now about the. transfer portal going from two times a. year, both in December, January, and. then also in May or April, I I forget. which one, a spring and a and a winter. one. They've cut it down to just one. transfer portal, and it'll be the one in. the winter. Okay. Uh what are your. thoughts on the December, January, in. the middle of college football playoff. transfer portal being the only transfer. portal window? And what are your. thoughts on going from two to one? It. feels like everybody's on board with. that.

>> Yeah, I think it needed to go to one. you know, you would negotiate with a. player and all power to the players, but. you would negotiate with a player in. January, December, January, and then. have to renegotiate three months later. when there's no, you know, you haven't. done anything. So, that that doesn't. happen in the NFL. And so, it's it. should be once a year, you know, you. make a decision and then you you play. that year out. Number two, I and most of. the Big 10 coaches wanted it in April. and May because, you know, we pay the. guys July July 1st to June 30th. So, in. the NFL, like the league year ends, you. know, you get paid for the year. we're.

gonna have in college football, we're. going to have players getting paid by. two different teams in the same year. That doesn't make doesn't make any sense. to me. And we're doing it that way. because basketballs, you know, everyone's using the same the same. money. So, it it doesn't make as much. sense, but I would I would have had the. portal in the middle of September for. all I care to get one portal. Um, it. it's it's it's better for the players. They don't need to be transferring twice. or in the spring. I mean, I just think. it's way better, but I would have done. it in May. Um, yeah. I I think I think. the playoffs should never be touched by. players saying to themselves, you know, am I staying? Am I going? Last year,

Penn State's backup quarterback left in. the middle of a playoff run because, you. know, he had to do what was right for. him. I'm not saying about I love Bo. I. just just those those things shouldn't. happen in my opinion with the portal, but some really powerful coaches wanted. it. They wanted it in January. And uh, you know, no one no one asked me. >> Okay. So, on that note, everybody I. talked to would have preferred the April. May one. Everybody preferred two to one. Everybody's like, "Need to only have. one." Everybody agreed on that, but. everybody to your point was like the one. in after spring feels like so we know.

what we have, you know, and then also we. we don't worry about the playoff. conversation. Nonetheless, it'll all get. figured out, right? Always does. >> Mhm. >> Well, we'll see. >> Always does. >> You're the man. We appreciate you, ladies and gentlemen. Head coach of the. Nebraska Corn Husker football team, taking on Michigan this weekend in the. Busting Bowl. Mer. get it coach. >> Uh, every coach I've talked to has said. the spring one. >> Yeah, because that's the one that makes. more sense. >> But it's not just about football. Remember? >> You're right. You're right. >> All right. Be a friend, tell a friend.

something nice. It might change your. life. Buy him a Ram truck as well. We'll. see you on the other side. Cheers. >> We have an opportunity to give away. $75,000. to giving Daniel Vor. >> Absolutely. >> You're a sophomore, correct? Yeah. >> What is your major? >> Civil engineering. >> Okay. So, what's that mean? What is. civil engineering? >> Uh, >> I don't really know. >> Have you ever kicked a ball before? >> I have. I have. >> And when were you a soccer player? >> Soccer player. Yeah. >> Okay. How were you at kicking soccer.

balls? It's pretty good. >> I was okay. I was good. >> Have you ever said anything negative. about football kickers? >> Maybe once or twice. >> Daniel. Damn, Daniel. We don't need. that. You make a field goal here from 33. yards uphill. You're the civil engineer. You'd have to tell me. I think it's. about a 40 yard kick. If you're able to. do that, we will give you $75,000. >> All right. >> He's got no laces. >> Yeah. What do we got going here? Can we. get Can we get a shot of shoes? >> What time of the shoes? >> Daniel showed up in his vans with no. laces. What time did you get here for.

this? >> About 11:40 last night. >> Need a lot of power. >> Good luck, Daniel. >> I'm not feeling it. Not feeling it. Wait a second. >> Wait a minute. >> Just like everything this morning. That. was a surprise. We did not expect that. >> Let's go. We got to do one more.

>> One more kick. for $100,000. >> You got this, dude. >> Let's go. >> How about this, Daniel? How about this, Daniel? Not only is this one for. $100,000, if you make it, we'll add. another $100,000 to the $500,000. donation we're about to make from. college game day to the hurricane. relief. It could be 600,000 if you make. this with a h 100,000 going into your. pocket. Daniel, this is bigger than you.

Let's make a kick. >> Way to overcome the shoes here. That was. a heck of an effort. >> Come on. You got this. >> in Berkeley, California. >> You got it. You did it. [Applause]. Hell yeah. >> Great job. >> Damn Daniel. Damn Daniel.

[Applause]. >> Are you kidding me? [Applause]. [Music]. 11:40 he was there. >> I know 600,000 to Hurricane,000. to Daniel. What a morning.

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>> Hello, beautiful people. and welcome back to our humble abode. The Thunderdome on this NFL week three. kickoff Thursday, September 18th, 2025. hours of the program begins now. Football is the greatest sport on earth. and we're so incredibly lucky that we. get a chance to chitchat about it today. The week three of the NFL season will. kick off tonight as an AFC East battle. will captivate us all. Will the Miami. Dolphins show any fight and cover.

anywhere between a 12 and a half and 11. and a half point spread? Or will the. Buffalo Bills continue to be the team. that we all think they could be this. year, the most dominant team in the. entire NFL? Will the reigning MVP Josh. Allen continue his back-to-back MVP run? Or will two of Tonga and Mike McDaniel. figure out how to be a football team. again and win against the Buffalo Bills. and change the trajectory of their. entire season, maybe their careers? We shall see in front of a captivated. crowd up there in Buffalo that'll be. celebrating the hell out of the last. year in this stadium before they make.

the big move to the big bison stadium. >> that is right across the parking lot. >> Tonight we're in for one on Amazon. Prime. We got Kirk Herb Street, Al. Michaels and Kayley Hartung on the call. Then for the kickoff show, >> dogs everywhere everybody. >> Richard Sherman's there. >> Wit's there. Fits there. Carissa is. there. Tony Gonzalez is there. and all the other participants, >> in which there are many. >> They always got some gimmicks and games. to play. And then the post show, if. you're up after the game, they do a full.

2 a.m. >> That's a full thing there. If you just. happen to be a little bit of a night. owl, they will certainly take care of. you with a night cap, I do believe. Not. that night cap, >> right? >> But Prime's. >> Yeah, two shows of night cap right now. Yeah. >> Okay. I think Primes is uh Yeah, you get. it. Little different. They're a little. night. No doubt. >> There it is. Vastly different shows. though. That's one half of the hammer, Don Cowboys AP Tone. The toxic tables. here at Boston Connor and at Tai.

Schmidt. And joining us live from an. attic in Ohio, ladies and gentlemen, is. a man who's a college football national. champion, Super Bowl champion, Ryder Cup. winner. Ladies and gentlemen, a man. who's in the middle of changing his. hairstyle. You can't tell cuz how good. he looks. >> Y. >> AJ Hawk. hasn't even been a topic of conversation. over the last few days. I think we've. gotten to a good stage of it all. How. you doing, AJ? I'm doing great. How are. you guys doing? I I really enjoyed the. Ram truck uh advertisement you guys ran. a little bit earlier. >> Well, we did run that. Yeah, we ran. that. That was a pre-recorded uh. advertisement that had to get approved.

obviously by all parties and signed off. on. And I'm sure that really moved some. Ram trucks today. >> I bet it did. >> I assume people were going down the line. to get themselves a Ram truck. Tonight. though, AJ AFC East battle. Everything. negative seemingly about the Miami. Dolphins are my thoughts, you know, especially after watching them. Now, the. Indianapolis Colts might be the greatest. team in the history of football. That is. TBD, period. Okay? Not question mark, not mockery voice, okay? That's. actuality, brother. Danny Dimes is on a.

loaded roster with an offensive guru, but they made the Miami Dolphins look. very bad to start the season. Very, very. bad. Not a great way to kick off an. entire vibe run for a Miami Dolphins. team that was maybe entrenched in a. little bit controversy. First time that. Tyreek Hill has been on that team, he's. not been named captain. Obviously at the. end of last year there was what there. was where he said I don't know if I need. to be here and two came out this year. during training camp and said you know. it takes a little time to heal from some. things that are said and it also takes. some time to heal from shipping all your. pro bowlers out of town and seeing if. you can be a football team. Jaylen. Ramsey, John Smith, Kais Campbell, you.

name it. Get the hell out of here. We. don't need you. How's the team going to. be? Well, they start out 0 and2 put up a. lot of fight against the Patriots last. week. Will they do the same against this. Buffalo Bills team, AJ Hawk? >> I mean I think they are definitely going. to put up a fight. I mean, I I think I. said a couple days ago like this is a. great opportunity for for the Dolphins. That's the way they have to approach. this. Yeah, we know they're up against. what 12 and a half point dogs, maybe. even more depending on where you look. But if the Dolphins like just think of. what it could do for their season if the. Dolphins find a way to win this game. >> legit,

>> this is like a turning point. It's it's. it's a turning point. We're going to go. one way or the other. And if this is one. of those years that we can hopefully. have some kind of success, like we'll. look back on this week and say, "Hey, there's where it kind of turned around. and there's where we find a way. we, you. know, kind of found a way to put it. together against a great Buffalo Bills. team. >> I know we're talking about the season. and everything like that and I don't. want to be dramatic. Okay. >> Okay. >> Not a dramatic person. >> No, never happened. >> I don't really I wouldn't overreact. anything. No, >> not in the moment at all. >> No, >> but you're talking about maybe career.

saving nights. >> tonight. >> Yeah, I think so. I mean, you you. mentioned it. I think if if for a lot of. people. >> if the Bills throttle the Dolphins like. I don't think. >> I don't think it's crazy to think that. both those guys get fired. >> already tie like this early time. >> I don't know Connor mentioned it earlier. week three is so early but if it is a. drumming on. >> I think there's a chance I really I. really do especially with how flat they. were against the Colts for it being week. one and then like they basically gave. away that game last week if they like. Gumpy said hey they just got to be.

competitive if they get beat by 28 you. four touchdowns or three touchdowns. tonight. I think there is a chance that. that at least McDaniel gets fired. >> I think I'm being a little dramatic, but. it's very early in the season, but we. happen to be around a Dolphins fan. So, I think that is why maybe we cover a. little closer. Could be. >> It's just like the Detroit Lions before. they became the brand new Lions and they. were still the same old Lions. We. covered the Lions strictly because Foxy, who is here, was a Lions fan. know I. would like to watch this Lions team so. that I can understand what mood he's.

going to be in and maybe talk [ __ ] to. him about what's going on with his. emotions and feelings. So, we've been. covering this Lions transition and. change throughout the very clo closer. long time. >> I say closer than anybody that has had. although we were just a small regional. show much closer following of the. Detroit Lions here over the last 5 years. than anybody else. I I will say that. other than local media talking about the. Lions. >> You guys witnessed the heartbreak that. Lions fans went through for all those. years. You understood it. So then now. they're good. It's awesome. >> Yeah. It's a brand new Lions. Now with.

the Dolphins, it's the same thing with. Gumpy. And boy, I remember the. excitement when this era was starting. >> Oh man, god. Trading for everybody, signing everybody. >> They're gonna win a playoff game, >> paying people. Remember, there was. rumors. uh alleged. We did not make this up. This has been reported out there. There. was rumors that maybe the owner was. trying to lose games for the. >> This came out after the season. A season. in which Gumpy, who's a Dolphins fan, said it feels like they're trying to. lose. So then when the owner comes out.

allegedly was potentially this is all. reported we are not making this up. This. was alleged we did not this is the thing. was. telling the coach I'll pay you more. money you lose some games. >> 100 grand. >> Okay so the fans have to go through that. fans have to be like. >> don't even want to win. >> What do we. >> what the. >> can we get some money maybe. >> try for us trying to How does this even. become a thing? Not saying it's real. I'm just saying it was talked about. So.

for that moment, from that moment of. Gumpy's fandom, okay, when it's like I. knew it, they're definitely trying. They're not trying to win. That's of. course then that against Debon goes to. court, whatever the case is kind of. disappears. Whatever happens there, I. don't know. Other stuff started coming. up a little bit more prevalent in that. particular story. But from Gumpy at that. moment of life when that was being. alleged, once again, not real, I don't. think. I don't know. Actually, we don't. do we know. never find out. >> Yeah, I don't. Not real. We'll say it. wasn't real. Legally, yes and no. >> It wasn't real. Okay, we'll say it.

wasn't real. But at that moment when it. was being reported, Gumpy was down here. I committed my whole life. >> They're not even going to say I'm sorry. >> Not Not one time. >> What's that about? This team I've given. so much to. They're down here. Then. McDaniel, Tyreek Hill. Shh. They pay the. most amount of money in wide receiver. >> Yeah. >> We're not paying money to lose. We're. paying the most money for a weapon on. the offensive side so we can be. explosive. So that ride just watching. him go from the depths of hell all the.

way to Euphoria at town and then now. what we're staring down week three with. this team is just it's heartbreaking for. our guy Gumpy and he painted too many. ships. >> for him to be this heartbroken week. three in my eyes. I think that he. probably represents. >> not all Dolphins fans. >> but at least some Dolphins fans that are. like man are we ever going to get it. right tonight? I guess we find out if. they can correct it or if we're on a. path to full rebuilding. >> Yeah. And that's what stinks too is like. that taking you know us back all the way. there when it was the Flores situation.

was crazy cuz then I remembered the. first initial McDaniel thing like Gumpy. wasn't sure about Tuo really. No one. really was cuz he wasn't getting a fair. shot. McDaniel comes in he's like hey. you're the guy like I'm going to make. you great. Tyreek Hill they also signed. that year was the the number one free. agent was the left tackle Terron. Armstead. They signed Armstead. They got. a good old line. All of a sudden, like. going back to that time, >> trading Jaylen for. that year during the season. >> Oh god. Like had it all.

>> When did it go bad though? When did it. start going bad? >> Last year, right? Last year, the end of. the season, I think, is when it really. started. That's a good question, AJ. Would that be when it was Gumps? >> Yeah. Tua's record over the last 16. games has not been good. Like like. actually like every other season, you. could say if Tua was hurt, we were bad. Whereas the last little while, even if. two is healthy, we are bad. Like we. haven't been a good football team. That. is the biggest worry. This is the first. time in as long as I can remember all. the Finn's faithful agree everybody's.

pissed. >> Okay, I like that. >> Like usually there'll be like some. people love Tua, some people hate Tua. The whole fans, all of them are pissed. at everybody. >> Did I see Tua on that mountain? >> You he was at the top. >> Tua was on Cuck Mountain. You've seen a. lot of the tweet actually said enough is. enough. He's finally made it to the top. >> Was I on that mountain at one point? >> Years and years ago. >> I was on that mountain at one point. which means I am enemy number one. basically of the uh Finn fam on the.

internet basically. That is that is that. that's what it felt like at least. whenever I got put on there. It was an. honor to not be mentioned amount amongst. the Mount Rushmore of Cuck Mountain down. there in the fins fam. Anyway, it was. nice that I got out of there because I. did become a believer because I think. you became a believer. They put two on. there now. >> Wow. >> That's. >> That's how you know. >> That's how you know it's over. That's. how you know it's like they big one. tonight. They going to Oh, man. >> What's that? >> Just Just going back through it again. Not to mention just like the ups and.

downs of the concussion stuff like that. Yeah. The like going all the way back to. like when it started with Josh Allen to. the third to the prime time with the. Bengals where he got slammed by the. DTackle. Like it has been quite the. ride. And then he came back from that. too. It just it sucks. But they're going. to show fight 12 and a half. >> Yes, they are. We are two of fans. We. are Dolphins fans. It has not looked. good, but almost beat the Patriots last. week. >> I uh I GPT uh earliest firing since. 1990. Scott Lahan for the Rams was fired.

after 0 and4 start in '08. Dennis Allen. 0 and4 start in 2014. Joe Filin a 1 and3. start in 2015. And Bill O'Brien an 0. and4 start in 2020. >> Okay. So it feels like you're going to. make it at least four games. Philin was. in Miami as well. That was him getting. fired by. >> Is that when MCDC went in interim? >> Yeah, I believe so. I'm not positive. >> All right. Wild Times. Obviously, uh. Dolphins had MCDC in the building. >> Mhm. Let him go. >> And Ben Johnson right there. >> Well, we'll see. You're right. >> I mean, we'll see how that all goes. We.

have some breaking news. AJ, >> what happened? >> What happened? Greatness. >> Yeah, I'm trying to ask. >> Greatness happened. Do you remember the. announcement of the WWE and ESPN. partnering the world's greatest. entertainment company, sports. entertainment company going with the. worldwide leader in sports finally. coming together to become a superpower. partnership of sports entertainment. Do. you remember that announcement? >> I do remember. >> So then you know that Russell Palooa. this weekend in Indianapolis, Indiana at. Gamebridge Fieldhouse is kicking off.

this partnership and it's going to be a. massive night. You know that, right? >> Yes. The show starts at 700 p.m. Eastern. time on the ESPN app. WWE is bringing it. in a big way. >> John Cena, Brock Lesnar. >> on the marquee. >> Yep. >> You have in a lot of people's eyes the. greatest of all time in John Cena. A man. who had a 20 plus year run at the top. where he didn't miss a show. An absolute. workhorse. A man who is absolutely. shredded. goes from being a guy laughed.

at basically who worked his ass off to. becoming the guy in the business for. over two decades. Then obviously goes. into Hollywood, takes over, does his. thing. He's on his last run right now. and the WWE world is saying thank you to. him all across the world. That's cuz he. has done such amazing things. The guy. he's taking on, the alpha male of our. species. a man who was so [ __ ] good. at wrestling that he got to the top of. it, maybe at the youngest and the. quickest in the history of WWE. Then.

whenever he conquered WWE, he said, "In. my body, in my mind, he's built to do. more. What do I need to do?" Oh, I'm. going to go try out for the NFL. Rain a. 44 in jeans becomes a dtackle, never. playing the sport before for the. Minnesota Vikings. All parties agree if. you were to put about a year of work. into this, two years of work into this, you could potentially become like a Hall. of Fame NFL player even though you've. never played the sport before. He goes, "Oh, thank you." You know, and then he. decides that I'm going to go and do the. UFC. Becomes their world heavyweight.

[ __ ] champion and beating people up. His arms are so long his hands and. fingers actually dangle and touch his. shins whenever he's walking around. He's. built to be a destroyer. He knows that. and he has executed that. He's become a. goat in multiple places. and him and Cena are going to be. battling for one last time here in. Indianapolis, Indiana. >> And it's going to be mustwatch. It's. going to be show stealing. It's going to. be something that's talked about for. generations and generations. And that.

fight will be taking place. at the top of the show. Kicking off the. ESPN WWE era will be John Cena vers. Brock Lesnar here at Gamebridge. Fieldhouse in Indianapolis, Indiana. This is obviously gigantic. What a way. to start. The best partnership I've ever. seen and the smartest partnership I've. ever seen between ESPN and WWE and also. two goats going at it. So, uh, that's. breaking news, AJ. And I'll I'll let you. kind of digest that and take that all. in, but just know 700 p.m. Saturday,

it's coming out with a bang, brother. >> Hell yeah. >> Hey, do we know if the roof and the. window will be open? >> It's a Gamebridge Fieldhouse. I assume I assume the roof of two. legends are going to go in the stadium. >> So, listen, this would be a stadium. match. This is a stadium match. These. two are stadium match. Russell Palooa. though in Indianapolis has not I mean we. had Triple H on what was that last week. and he was like hey ESPN had a date they. asked if we would be able to do a show.

we certainly love that idea here we go. so I don't know if uh I don't know if. stadium was pitched or presented but. whatever the case is a stadium this is a. history box office this is a mustwatch. uh fight and it'll happen to kick off. the entire partnership that's good [ __ ]. that's good [ __ ]. >> that's good [ __ ] Oh, >> 7:00 p.m. >> kick off the show, right? So, boom, they're coming out first. >> Yeah. >> Good move. Boom. >> Mhm. >> Genius. >> Yeah.

>> That old [ __ ] thing. >> Yeah. >> And then John Cena, I love the way he's. coming out with the black screen. >> Oh, yeah. >> And then we're dropping it into the. >> Yep. I wonder if it will be. >> what. >> I wonder if they he goes old school. Just goes no black screen. >> Oh, you're talking about him going uh. Thuggonomics. >> going all the way back. >> Yeah. Yeah, if he comes out with the. chain and the hat, that'd be sick for. sure. I mean, >> your time is up. His time is done. That's right. >> Who knows? >> That's what he said. That's wrestle. balloon football. Anything could happen. >> What if he comes out as Peacemaker? I. mean, there's. >> just shoots him in the head.

>> Ricky Stanicki maybe. I mean, there's. >> I think I think John Cena is probably. going to be the one that shows up, but. anything's possible. >> Is Dimes going to be here? >> Yeah. >> Danny Dimes Saturday night. >> He's going to be screaming. >> Yeah, I'm pretty sure he's sent manager. for this one. as as like an honor being. an in. >> Welcome to the city. Thank you for. coming to the city, says Danny Dimes. I. respect that. Uh joining us now, ladies. and gentlemen, is a Super Bowl champion. head coach. Uh he's from Pittsburgh, which obviously makes us love him. immediately. He is currently enjoying a.

year off from head coaching after. coaching the Dallas Cowboys. What does. the future look like? We don't know, but. we're appreciative that he joins us. every single week. Ladies and gentlemen, Coach Mike McCarthy. >> Hey, gentlemen. Coach, you see John. Cena, Brock Lesnar leading off that. show. How you you all right with that or. what are your thoughts? >> I'm heading to Indie soon as I get done. here. Hell. >> yeah. Good place. >> We would love to have you here. obviously. Uh we're very uh pumped that.

you're coming. I'll let I'll let the WWE. know. You might be you might be sitting. right you might be in the ring. >> Might need you. Go get in there. >> Might have you in the ring. You want to. slide in there. Maybe hit some hit the. ropes a little bit. Uh coach, thank you. for joining us. Week three obviously. kicks off tonight. AFC East battle 12. point spread now at ESPN Bet and. multiple other books. I don't even think. you can get 11 and a half. 12 and a half. feels like a lot of points for a. division game on a Thursday night. How. do coaches view these short weeks? And. if you're these coaches, what is your.

messaging to your team? >> Well, I I mean I' I've always liked the. short week. um because you know I think. particularly when it doesn't go great on. the on the prior Sunday but yeah this is. uh this is a tough one here because you. know division game like you've already. stated Thursday night you know Miami. going up to Buffalo I mean but you you. know you look at the numbers and you. watch the first two games I mean Buffalo. is really rolling right now I mean just. the the way that you know the ball. distribution Josh Allen's playing at an.

MVP level uh I just like the way their. defense is coming on you could see that. at the end of the you know Ravens game. and obviously last week. So, um you. know, and Miami's, you know, they turned. the ball over a little bit. So, um you. know, I definitely think this is a. favorable game for Buffalo, but that. that's a lot of points. >> Go ahead, AJ. >> Yeah. Coach, let's say you're trying to. defend Josh Allen in this offense. What. can you do like to a quarterback like. Josh that is so dynamic, can beat you so. many different ways. What are you. telling your defense to do to try to. contain this guy?

>> Well, it's it's twofold. I mean, they do. such a good job of staying on time. when. I watch him play, you know, he they're. in sync. I mean, this is an offense. that's played a lot of ball together. Um, and I think that's really, you know, things I always watch for in September. football. You know, you look at the. teams that are playing well offensively, it's it's usually, you know, illustrated. by a group of men that that have that. have some time on task together and they. they look really really sharp. Uh but. his ability to extend plays, you know, and when you got quarterbacks that can,

you know, exit through the A gaps or. exit through the B gaps, extend plays. and and obviously turn them into huge. games. I mean, they're tough. They're. that's a that's a tough task for the. defense, especially early in the year. Uh defenses, you know, their timing, the. wrestling discipline, all those things. part of that September football. you. know, they're gonna have Dam's is gonna. have to have it tonight because this. he's going to make plays and then the. other part of it, he can throw to any. spot on the field. He can make any throw. out there. So, um I I just been so.

impressed with him the first two weeks. >> Josh Allen, reigning MVP of the NFL. Every offseason, he's only gotten better. this off seasonason. He got married. We'd obviously like to congratulate him. for that, but he's also gotten better. somehow. This Buffalo Bills team, very. fun to watch. And on the flip side, people are saying the Dolphins have. gotten worse. Ty has a question for you. Yeah, coach. I remember a couple years. ago in Dallas when you guys were in a. little bit of a rut. You uh you went. with the Gallagher gimmick and you. started smashing watermelons in the. locker room. We all heard about it. We. all loved it. Uh when there is this much.

negative surrounding a team like there. is the Dolphins right now, do you would. you encourage Coach McDaniel, hey, maybe. smash a few watermelons in the locker. room, get the boys going, or is it a. little early to bring out something like. that? >> Well, in honor of the great Gallagher, he was 2 and 0 in my time in Dallas. So, um, >> rest in peace, by the way, Frank. Gallagher. >> Yeah, rest in peace. Yeah, rest in. peace. But no, I you know, actually that. was during the pandemic times, too. So, we probably caged up a little bit, you. know, too much, you know, just looking.

thinking about it too much probably. But, no, I I think, you know, you have. to have fun. You got to keep the energy. up. I mean, that that is so important. All part of the group dynamics and the. challenges of every single year. So, yeah, I think the most important part is. you want these guys clear- minded. Um, but you know, my Miami is going to have. to go. It's a division game. You know, these division games are always tight. Uh, we talked about this a little bit. last week. September division games, I. think, are a real real challenge. Um, so, but they're going to have to really. do a good job taking care of the.

football and as you know, u, you know, Buffalo just looks so good right now. So, um, and Miami is going to have to. shorten the game. You know, win the time. of possession. in the first two weeks. that they've been on the wrong side the. time time of possession. But division. games are usually tight. You know, like. I said, that's a lot of points to give. up to a to a division opponent. >> Why is the division game normally tight. thing? Cuz don't don't rosters change. every year. Like, why is it always that? I mean, we're a part of them with the. Colts. They were always tight and it's. always like, well, you know exactly what. the person's going to do. You play them.

so much, but what if it's a new OC, new. DC? What if it's a new coach? What? Not. that it is in this particular case, but. why is it just is it the vibe of the. game just feels bigger? So people are a. little tighter. Like is it the knowledge. of the other team that just naturally. comes from playing each other so much? >> I mean, personally, they they're my. favorite games of the year. I mean, they're they are the best games of the. regular season. I mean, I know as a. coaching staff, you always put time, you. know, uh into the division games in. those in those June weeks before you go. on vacation. Um it just carries so much.

more weight, you know, plus the fans, the tradition, the rivalries, all that. play into it. So, um, there's nothing. like the division games. You know, I. know there's so much made of the night. games and so forth, but you know, the. division games, just the competitive. spirit is always high. You you know each. other fairly well, even like you've. stated with the change of rosters. I. mean, there's there's definitely a. familiarity uh to your division. opponent. >> What's behind you there, coach? What do. we got the photo?

>> Oh, Roberto Clemente. from your hometown. Yeah, I love. Clemente Bridge. My favorite alltime professional. athlete. >> Hell yeah. >> Is that your favorite bridge? >> Is it my favorite bridge? Okay. Um, that's a good question. >> I'd have to say the Homestead High Level. Bridge. >> Good. >> That's a good one. >> Closest one to the. >> I of course Dary obviously. >> the beard right at the end of it. >> Pittsburgh. Um, actually most bridges of.

any city Pittsburgh. >> in the world, right? recogn bridges everywhere. I mean, it's. architectural engineering marvel as you. walk around town. That one right there. though leads to a lot of good times. It. does. And that one's named after a. phenomenal human in the history of. sports. Go ahead, Tone. >> Yeah, coach, we were talking about uh. Daniel Jones earlier this week and how. great he was against the Blitz against. the Broncos. And we talked about it with. Bruce Arens a little bit and AQ Shipley. and they were they were saying like some. of these teams they don't have sight.

adjustments anymore. they don't have. hots like and is I was asking you like. overall is that what separates a good. quarterback from a great quarterback is. against a blitz knowing your sights. knowing your hots and and is that why. young quarterbacks sometimes tend to. struggle coming into the NFL? >> Yeah, definitely. I think that's a great. point. I think schematically, you know, when you do put together an offensive. system, you know, we always talk about. proactive adjustments and, you know, some some teams don't believe in having. sight adjust or a hot system uh built. in. you it's more, you know, make make.

the the protection adjustments. So, it. kind of varies scheme to scheme. Um, but. definitely that that's something that, you know, when you go back and you look. at the training in training camp because. you you know, the live work, the live. teamwork, um, because you the speed of. the pressure is so important for the. development of quarterback, you know, flipping to the other side of the ball. and I learned this from Dom Capers uh, back in '09 when he came to the Packers. You know, we were talking about the. preseason, you know, how much pressure. to run in the in the preseason versus.

not showing your pressure and, you know, just playing coverage and and standard. defense. And the point that he always. made, which I I I still see this true, and I, you know, obviously used it on. the other side of the ball offensively, is the defensive players got to learn to. play to the speed and the time clock of. pressure defense. So, having pressure. defense for a young quarterback and the. training component is critical. And I. think that's probably um along with I. think Bruce's comments is is a key is a. key to their development. >> Can you tell me a little bit about.

confidence and what that can do for a. quarterback? Especially when you come. out like Danny Dimes new home. Obviously. a lot of [ __ ] has been said about you. and then the first two weeks you're. playing damn near perfect football. Your. your choices, your options are all. right. Your throws all on the money. Your decision-m on when to run seemingly. right. You're taking huge shots, you're. bouncing right back up. It's like that's. a great way to start a new relationship. in life, but definitely with a new team, right? Confidence has to be a weapon for. Danny Dimes and Shane Stiken at this. point.

>> No, absolutely. I mean, and you get the. big win over there in Denver, too, is is. awesome. No, confidence is really what. it's all about. That's what moves the. needle. That's what the move moves the. needle for the player. That's what moves. needle for the offense, the defense, and. ultimately moves the needle for the. team. And then the fans and everything, you know, the external energy increases. But, you know, I'm I'm really happy to. see his success. I, you know, he's had. some, you know, tough moments, but, you. know, I always thought he was an. excellent prospect both in the pocket. and out of the pocket and and, uh, it's. great to see him have the success he's.

having in Indianapolis. >> Was it against you? We saw him just. running, striding out. Was that It feels. like it was on N prime time games, which. is normally against. >> Yeah. No, I mean, I think the one year. he had what, three touchdowns over 50. yards? I mean, he's I mean, he he can. run. No, he can definitely run, but I I. just think he needed a little more time. in the pocket in the earlier days. Um. because, you know, he he definitely has. that ability. >> Our source. >> says close to Danny Dimes tell us that. he's only 28 years old. The body feels. like it's only getting faster. So,

enough with the wow surprise. You can. still run stuff, you know, cuz this. weekend against Denver, defensive end or. outside linebacker, I don't know who it. was. within a foot of him. He switches. gear, gets around this guy like it. looked like Tyreek Hill kind of like. getting out of a phone booth almost and. it was right in front of us. I'm like I. didn't know Danny Dime still had that. And then I was told promptly 28 years. what are we talking about? He's still. young and he got blasted before. We've. seen him get crushed and pop up too. >> Yeah, he's he's he's really hitting his.

climax here and so are we. You know what. I mean? Just like those glory holes. We're always looking for those glory. holes right down there in Dallas. I've. learned the glory hole is what we're all. seeking, right? Is that right? I heard. Jerry Jones say that, coach. >> Are we jumping to the oil business now, Pat? Or. >> I'll tell you what, after learning I. could buy an $800,000 rig and. potentially make a $100 million one. I I. certainly thought about it. I've. certainly thought about it. I don't know. how the modern age is with oil and I. don't know if we're trying to find it. still. Think we should. Sounds like it's. the right move. But if I could get one.

of those rigs to get down there and. cough like any man would and then start. to bleed and then start to hiss and. start to howl out and I knew it. I said, "We found it. There's a glory hole down. there." And this $800,000 rig just. penetrated that thing beautifully. You. never know what's on the other side. You. never know. >> No, you don't. >> Cuz you might run into a, you know, something you don't want to run into. down there. That's why you keep your. eyes off it. But every once in a while, you find that glory hole and magic. starts happening for everybody, right? That's what we're doing with Dallas.

Cowboys that we're trying to do. >> You talking with the Cowboys or with the. with the oil? What? The glory hole? >> Yeah. I mean, >> go ahead. >> I don't even know the hell you're asking. me. >> I don't want to get in trouble. >> You know more. Whoa. We're talking about. loyal glory hole. >> I'm going back to the production. meetings. I'm sorry. >> Okay. Jes, what is this guy's problem? We're. talking about Jerry Jones this week. Okay. >> On radio show. He explains what a glory.

hole is. Please run this from 105. >> Okay. Well, I haven't seen this. Yeah. >> 1053. The fan glory hole talk. >> Jerry, uh, his agent said, "Really? I'm. getting him signed over there cuz I want. to know Jerry's definition of glory hole. and if it's the same as mine." That came. from Javon's agent. So, could you just. clarify that for him? >> Well, he knows it's an oil field term. comes from that. When you're in the. business of drilling wells and uh it's.

when you've. basically made a big well and you. mentally or or physically picture just. drilling a well and all of a sudden. having all the oil start coming out at. once and uh going in the going in the. air and that's when you've known you've. hit a glory hole. Jerry, uh, >> coach, how many times have you been. either forced or heard the glory hole. reference or metaphor to your football.

team down there in Dallas? Bring a guy. in, we struck glory hole with this guy. Is that used on a regular basis? Is the. oil terminology used on a regular basis. down there with the Cowboys with Jerry. Jones? >> Yeah, definitely. No, I I it's. definitely a term and you know it's part. of his great storytelling and analogies. you know both the oil business and and. pro football. Yes, definitely. I've. heard I've heard it a number of times. >> So, you have had to utilize the words. glory and whole as motivation to a. locker room in the NFL.

>> Well, um you know, a lot of things that. are said in the locker room stay in the. locker room. >> Oh, yeah. Of course, of course. Of. course. That's a good call. >> Yeah. Hope hopefully. Uh, so AJ, you. going to help help me out here? But, uh, yeah. So, definitely. I think everybody that's worked there. has heard has heard the term glory hole. >> Okay. I never heard it before this one. So, Oh, really? Yeah. I never heard it. But, you know, things aren't always. staying in that locker room. As soon as. your mallet hit that watermelon, we. learned of it. >> So, you know, we need to keep this [ __ ]. tight. We need to keep the sheep a.

little bit tighter out there. Now, can. we talk about the rooms that you do have. and the rooms you have to monitor as a. coach in the most important position? We. got a lot of question marks going into. this week. Go ahead, Con man. >> Yeah, coach. A lot of backup QBs. playing. We got uh M. Jones for Perie, Carson Wentz going for JJ McCarthy, Jake. Browning going for Burrow, possibly. Mariota for Jaden Daniels, and Tyrod. Taylor going for Justin Fields. You were. uh basically dominating with Co Cooper. Kush when he was playing for you guys.

when Dak was hurt a few years ago. What. is it like coaching uh and preparing for. a team when you know you're going to be. having your backup quarterback going in? And are you asking for some of your. superstar players, maybe even your. defense to step up, have a big week, or. is it kind of, hey, let's keep this. thing rolling. This is a train. Let's. just get the backup in there and, you. know, continue to play. >> Uh, yeah, definitely. It's I would say. it's part of the rhythm of the season. I. mean, the 17 game season is real. Um,

and you know, 16 game seasons, I mean, to see quarterbacks, you know, go. through a whole season, I mean, that's. that's the most important statistic for. any starter uh, in the NFL, let alone. the quarterback position, and as we all. know, is the most important position. So, yeah, when you talk about the backup. quarterback position, I mean, philosophically, I think it goes back to. your roster development. You know, in. the old days, sometimes you like to have. a a different athletic profile to your. quarterback to maybe have a change up. I. personally always try to prefer prefer.

the skill sets to be as similar as they. can. Uh because you know with the. training regiments and being able to. train you know all three quarterbacks. hopefully a fourth one in the room is so. important and that and I go back to the. quarterback room. Um you have your. starter then you have your your number. two and your number three. They all have. responsibilities you know during the. offseason during training camp um and. ultimately in season. So, uh, quarterback rooms are critical. Uh, who. you have in that room with, you know, as. far as coaching, um, the diligence that.

go into it. Uh, you're really preparing. yourself for this situation, you know, back when the offseason program starts. in my opinion. So, it's all about the. quarterback room and I think every one. of these guys that, you know, they're. going to have their opportunity uh, come. come Sunday and they'll have the support. not only the the quarterback room, but. the whole football team. I I I some of. the best leaders that I've come across. have been backup quarterbacks before. they, you know, before they got their.

ultimate opportunity as a starter. >> Can you uh talk about that a little bit. more? Whenever we had Andrew Luck, uh we. had Matt Hasselbeck as the backup. quarterback and he acted like a buffer. almost for Andrew as he was kind of. finding his way in the entirety. Obviously, you had success with Andy. Dalton as your backup quarterback for. Dak. Cooper Kush obviously had a good. run. Cooper Rush, sorry about that. Cooper Rush had a good run with you, but. having that veteran leader type person. as a backup quarterback outside looking. in, some people can say, is there going. to be a little conflict here on who's.

alpha in room? What have you experienced. with maybe two top dogs in the same. quarterback room? >> Well, I've been so blessed throughout my. career to experience it so many. different times. Back in 1993, my first year, you had Joe Montana as a. starter, but Dave Craig was the backup. And Dave Dave was incredible. I mean, you know, David played so much football. and is successful right up there in. Seattle and so forth. So, they. complemented each other, you know, so. very well. So, and Joe missed games. Dave stepped right in there. You know,

later in Kansas City, we had Rich Ganon. backing up both Steve Bono and and Elvis. Gurbach. And, you know, those, you know, and then he went on to a phenomenal, you. know, stretch over there with the. Raiders. I had Matt Hos back as a young. guy as a backup to Brett in in in Green. Bay. So, uh, so many times Aaron Brooks. is a young guy behind Jeff Blake. >> Jeff goes down, he steps up. Aaron goes. down, here comes Jake Delhomme. So, I. just been very blessed to have so many. guys that were ready to go, uh, bought.

into the, you know, the system of always. being ready, you know, the development. of, you know, each quarterback through. quarterback school, which was a. different era back then. You were able. to spend more time with them. Uh, so. I've I've experienced it on a number of. different opportunities and the latest. is obviously in Dallas with Cooper Rush. actually did for us two times both in 22. and 24. >> Do you think you're the first guy that. all those backup quarterbacks had ever. heard speak with a Yinszer accent? >> Uh good shot. Uh because you know it's. something uh I had to be conscious of.

you know during the week because you. know as a head coach you kind of you. know don't always want to have to be in. charge of calling plays particularly in. the headset. you like to be more, you. know, mobile on the practice field, but. but I was told that I had an accent and. probably they needed to hear me. So, but. yeah, there's a there's a pretty good. shot. >> Yeah, I love just the thought Aaron. Rogers talked about a couple times about. you calling plays in a headset with the. Yinszer accent just sounding so I I. couldn't even imagine how spectacular.

that had. Marin Coat dropping a play. call into Aaron Rod. Oh my. >> coat. >> Rest in peace. Rest in peace, my rest in. peace. No doubt. Yeah. >> Yeah. You always. >> You are old school today. >> Yeah. We're paying our respects. Roberto. Clemente. >> Absolutely. >> Joe Donardo. >> Joe Nardo. Rest in peace. >> Joeardo. >> Miss you, Joe. >> Rest in peace. >> Jeez. Good. >> He's the greatest Doppler operator of. all time. He is. >> Yep. Rest in peace, Joe. >> We appreciate you, Joe.

>> Joe. >> Appreciate you, Joe. >> Strong right there. >> Hey, Joe said it would. And it did. Shout out to Joe. Rest in peace, Joe. Uh, Ty has a question for you about a. lot about what you just talked about, actually. >> Yeah, coach. Of all those situations, when you look at San Francisco, a lot of. people have been saying, hey, if. especially the way M. Jones played on. Sunday against New Orleans, if he. continues to do that and he looks really. good and we know that Kyle Shanahan. initially when they traded up to number. three a couple years ago, it was because. he wanted M. Jones and then you know.

through discussions and and what. whatever happens they ended up going. with Trey Lance. Is there ever a. situation you can remember or do you. think Shanahan might be going through. this right now where you almost get. enamored with the backup quarterback. because he's playing so well and it. makes it a little bit harder to go back. to whoever your starter was? >> Well, I think the biggest thing is I. mean it really focused on on winning. games right now. Um, but going back to. the draft process, you know, it's. something that I learned from Ron Wolf.

back in 1999. And he always talked about. always trusting your grade on a player, you know, and the irony for Mack to come. back around and then for Kyle and the. 49ers to now get him as part of their. team. I think you have to trust the. draft process because when you look at. the draft process, there's so much time. and energy goes into where where you you. know put these the grade you put on. these young men at the time and then. they have their experience you know that. could be different from each opportunity.

injuries and you know so many things can. go a different direction. So, I I think. this is clearly a case of, you know, trusting their process and and now he's. having success there and and and then. with that, I think it's a great. situation to be in for the 49ers cuz now. you have two, you know, two players that. you feel really good about that can win. and play at a high level, you know. So, you know, hopefully Matt keeps going and. and keeps playing at that level, but I. think this is this is a great spot to be. in. >> You said trust your draft grade. That's. a Trey Lance trade that you guys bring. back to Dallas. You guys really liked.

him. And uh what are you? >> Yeah, definitely. I mean that that'd be. definitely an example of it. You know, when trade trade became available and um. it was it was definitely the. conversation was, you know, we talked. about the grade that initially had on. him and and the value that uh we thought. it would take to get him there. So, absolutely. I I I've seen it happen over. and over and over again where you um you. just you got to at least bring the guy, you got at least bring the player in, at. least bring them in and uh you know, take a look, you know, have the. conversation. Um and it's it really you.

got to trust that draft process. So you. think Shanahan after that game was like, "We knew it. I knew it. I knew after he. goes against the Saints and goes," I. knew. This is what I thought whenever we. initially initially did that. And on. that point, Trey Lance goes to you guys. You liked your draft grade on him. You. get him to the Dallas Cowboys. Currently. with the Chargers, right? How do you. feel about Tre Lance whenever your time. with him? >> Oh, I think he's definitely on the up. You know, he's improving. Uh I think. he's he's he's he's getting to the point. now that he'll be he'll be ready to to. be a starter in this league at some.

time. I was very high on Trey in in my. time there. I I just thought he was very. young, very very raw, hard worker, you. know, excellent athlete. Um I just think. he has so much more in front of him. And. I think you just got to really look at. these players here in the in the last. five or six years. I mean, this pandemic. and the things leading into it. I mean, I had, you know, I had a young, you. know, one of our my youngest son senior. year was the pandemic. So, I mean, I. think that time clocks on development. can be a little skewed.

>> Um, as far as guys, you see it, we. talked about a lot in the old line room, offensive line room, letting those guys. have an extra year to develop. So, I I. just think you patience is is something. that uh we all wish we had, you know, in. in the development outlook. And I I. think Trey is is definitely uh someone. that's turned a corner. I I really. enjoyed my time working with him. I. forgot there was a world stoppage of. events being around each other and. everything and crucial development years. too whenever everything kind of changes. I I don't even think until you mention.

it right there. Yins are genius. obviously football I don't think that. has even crossed my mind about like. football development for players because. of co uh obviously you think about life. people being locked in their houses and. separated from everybody and people. maybe getting more deep into the. internet and believing things and seeing. things and yada yada yada that's life. effects and then high schoolers not. being around each other so them. interaction and how they feel publicly. that's a whole thing whenever the. developmental years obviously I hadn't. thought about football development. though much that is certainly a thing.

>> oh I mean, if you go through Colts, what. the Colts got going on with AR at. quarterback and then you think about. Trey Lance. I assume this is that other. position you said offensive line, that. makes a lot of sense because that's a. year of that you miss out on that you. certainly need in the development phase. Wow. Hey, that was pretty profound. I. want to let you know that. I want that. was pretty profound what you just said. right there. >> No [ __ ]. >> No [ __ ]. Go. >> ahead. What you expect?

>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Go ahead, AJ. Go. ahead, AJ. >> Coach, why why for so long has why is it. always so difficult, I think, to. evaluate college quarterbacks coming out. of their college program and and making. that transition to the NFL? I know so. much relies on what's around a QB to. make him successful. But it seems like. since the dawn of football, it's really. tough and there's a lot of different. opinions on who's going to be the guy at. the next level and who's not. What do. you think that is? Like, is it ever. going to get easier? >> Um, it's it's I think it's always going. to be a challenge because of the access.

Um because you really, you know, you. know, the pro the pro experience of of. of getting access to really truly. understand the guys is is so important. I personally think it's a little it's. better because you're seeing more um. more quarterback driven offenses as far. as them running the ball that's now. transferred to the NFL where you used to. have to project you know a quarterback. that was you know a primary you know run. first you know throw it second offense. and how would he you know do in third.

downs and things like that evaluate his. drop back passing game and so forth but. I think I think you see so much more of. the you know the quarterbacks with the. athletic ability being used in college. that now is being used in in in the NFL. I think that part has has gotten a. little easier. Um, but you know, it's. just like anything. I I just know for. years, uh, in the video is so much. better as light years compared. But, you. know, in the old days, if you didn't if. you really didn't get to see get right. next to the quarterback and and feel the.

ball come off his hand and and be at the. workout, you truly didn't know the. velocity. Now you got the. instrumentation um that you know there's. so much data out there. It's it's now. you're on the opposite side of the. evaluation curve of having maybe too. much to look through and really sort. down and because at the end of the day, you know, these guys don't you know when. you look at players that that that make. it versus ones that don't. It's it's not. I I don't think it's their physical. capabilities. I think there's so much. more data and information where these.

the scouting departments do an excellent. job there. It's it's really the. emotional development and the emotional. projection of how they're going to. project to the pro, you know, professional sport life. >> How do you go about doing that? We've. seen like rock paper scissors people do. There's a basketball shooting. They try. to figure out the competition level. Try. to find out if they love ball. Like what. is the goal of trying to figure out if. they're going to become uh somebody. that's an asset to your locker room or a. turd, you know, for a lack of better. words? Is there anything you try to do. in the process of scouting a player that.

makes you feel one way or another about. what they could potentially be in a few. years as humans? >> Yeah, I think I mean from the head coach. perspective is is different. I mean, but. I think it's, you know, your scouting. department, I'll just go back to the. last. I mean, I've been very blessed to. work at two organizations who have, you. know, they're different in their. scouting approach, but I I thought both. organizations did an outstanding job of. clearly understanding the player, you. know, and and hey, and there's ones. where you, you know, there's times where. you may not have all the information. that you would like to have, but it it.

really comes down to the to the scouts. and the whole process, you know, the. testing and just once again collecting. the data and and and having an. understanding of how it's presented and. then, you know, setting board the right. way. But I I thought both the the. Cowboys and the Packers, you know, did. an excellent job in that area. >> We appreciate the hell out of you, coach. And I know you don't like to pick. games. Obviously, you wouldn't want to. do that or do that, but if you were over. the last couple weeks with what you. said, you'd be undefeated right now. picking games on. Congratulations. Congratulations. Two for two. Last week,

you picked the Packers. Felt like that. was going to happen regardless. They. showed up for you. It was a big one. You. didn't pick them, by the way. You said, "I like green gold tonight." Green. We. put words in your mouth and had you pick. the Packers tonight. Uh I think I heard. you say earlier that's a lot of points. That's a lot of points for a Thursday. night game. How do you see this game. going for us that we'll be picking games. here in a matter of moments? >> I I think Buffalo's going to win the. game. Um that's a lot of points for a. division game, but. >> say no more.

>> I'm going to go against my, you know, against the grain. I'm I'm going to go. with the Bills tonight. >> Oh jeez. Okay. >> Oh no. >> Yeah. Oh, no. >> For the blue and white, you said it's. going. Uh, all right. We appreciate the. hell out of you, coach. You're the man. >> All right, man. See you next week, >> ladies and gentlemen. Coach Mike McCor. >> Yeah, coach. >> He's the man. >> Best. >> All right, man. >> I'm not making actual picks, right? >> No. >> Sounds like he likes He likes 12 and a. half though, right? >> What are you asking me? >> Well, he just kind of walked with a.

little bit. >> He's taking a bill. He's taking a good. night for the blue. and Jonard popped. up. >> His face. Oh wow. >> Oh wow. >> Oh wow. >> He had some profound uh [ __ ] We're on. the opposite end of the evaluation. uh scale or something like that where we. know too much where at one point we. didn't know enough. We had to go see. him. >> And then what was the other uh co effect. and development of football? >> Didn't even think about that. didn't. even didn't even cross my mind because. we had football during co but there were.

some places that didn't. Yeah. >> And there were some places high schools. and things like that that didn't maybe. had two games or something like that. because they couldn't get through all. the co stuff and a lot of I mean. California obviously had very heavy uh. regulations during co a lot of football. players come Yeah. >> from the state of California. You know. there's a lot of. >> I didn't even that was pretty profound. Thank you. Yes. >> Good [ __ ] I know. >> Yeah. Yeah. I know. Yeah. That is it is. though. It hadn't even really crossed my. mind. It is hard to be patient with. these guys, but also just understanding.

that their development kind of got. [ __ ] by the the world actually like. the the whole. >> We're not even dive into that, but like. >> everything. >> legitimately like the state of the world. has affected how these dudes can play. ball. I know the rest of the world too. and that matters a lot more than just a. game in a sport. I'm understanding that. But I'm talking about just in ball. I. never really considered that. >> The only one that's still on the same. team is Trevor Lawrence. Like you look. at that entire draft class, Trevor. Lawrence, Zack Wilson, Trey Lance, M. Jones, Justin Fields. Trevor Lawrence is.

the only one who's still there. And you. could argue he had some of the worst. development because of what he had to go. through between the coaches he dealt. with when it was Urban and then Doug. Peterson who had the whole play calling. debacle and now it's Brian or Cohen. Brian Brian Cohen already or whatever. the hell his name is. Liam Cohen there. I blanked on I don't know why but a lot. of Cohins. Uh but uh and then you look. at Mack, he's bounced around. Fields is. the only one who's actually gotten like. a true second opportunity to be a.

starter. And even then, you know, we're. they're 0 and2 and he's not playing this. week. So, it's one of those things where. that that entire co era, I never even. once thought of that just I think. probably because the guys after them. ended up being well who were young. >> Yeah, that was Thank God I wasn't going. through high school, college during that. stuff, >> dude. Especially with the Aussies. >> I had so much fun. Aussie punters and. kickers. >> Oh yeah. It would have been over for me, brother. Yeah, it would have been But. also just. >> life development. >> Well, like you said, like they still had.

they still had football in a lot of. places, but it. >> Can you imagine? It is nothing like it. was the year before. Like it's football, but it's like this isn't this isn't what. I'm used to. >> Not allowed to be in meetings together, not allowed to be in a locker room, not. allowed to really train or practice. against each other. >> Yeah. Could hear Big Ben at Agraore. You. know that that's how different it was. They were hearing them yell slay slant. slant and they could hear him on. defense. >> Hey, don't you guys are playing the. Steelers next week? Yeah. Ben is just. going to tell you exactly what. everybody's doing. Just don't let him.

know that you can hear him because we're. all kind of playing it. So, >> you guys can't hear. >> what's that? >> Act like you cannot hear whatever he's. saying. >> Okay. Please, >> as you slide to the proper leverage as. the ball is snapped and you hopefully. get interceptions and tips and. overthrow. >> Don't ruin this for all of us. Please. don't ring this wrong. We got him next. week. Don't just act like you didn't. hear him. >> He didn't care. 11 and0. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Ben stop him. >> Want you to know about it actually. And. then he probably if we know Ben now that. we know Ben. >> He was definitely working that a little. bit. Oh yeah. >> Hey, when I say slain, I mean go.

If I say hot route twice, go deep, [ __ ]. >> You know what we're talking about. >> Rothersburg is a dog, dude. His show is. good. He was wearing a hockey helmet the. other day. >> He's really He's really stretched his. leg. a tape job on a stick. >> Yeah, he's he's exploring the space. which we are grateful for. >> Him and Spank are doing it down there in. chef. >> Keep going, boys. Football. Good show. >> Great show. My um my TV when I do uh so. YouTube TV probably an a gra like an.

app. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> The TV I have I got to go through. YouTube. >> What? >> Then I got to go into. >> the bottom. >> Yeah. To the left down the bottom. YouTube sounds horrendous. >> Yeah. I don't like it at all. And I know. YouTube TV doesn't like that. That's. what I got to do either. But it is what. my TV offers and it is the only way I. know how to get in there as somebody. who's not great with this entire thing. Anytime I go to YouTube, you know, it. gives you suggestions. >> It's. Bluey.

>> Yep. >> Okay. Metallica and her Sandman and. Virginia Tech. >> Daughter loves it. She's great. Love. that she loves that by the way. She'll. literally. >> alongside of it does the entire thing. Classic Metallica though. They don't let. the whole video play. They cut it off. >> Awesome. Love the way that guy operates. >> Shout out Lars. >> He just lives. He's Hey, you are. operating how I am operating or you're. not operating at all. Mad respect. You. do what you got to do. Lars, great. performance at Virginia Tech too. I wish. I would have been there. I watched the. first minute of it. >> with my daughter. Feel like I got it.

>> And then there's Rothosberger. Their. newest episode right there. Not even our. show. >> Not even our show on it. Not even. somehow. But Rothsber's on there every. time. So, it's a new Ben face that pops. up on the screen whenever I'm trying to. get in my bedroom. Saw him with that. hawk. There it is. There it is. That was. what pops up. Big pop out of me, Ben. I. just want to let you know it's a big big. pop out of me. Spanking. I'm locked in. this. >> Yeah. I thought this was football, not. hockey ball. >> Yeah. I enjoy I enjoy. >> trying to tape it with the gloves on.

>> Yeah. Yeah. He's from Ohio, you know. He. grew up around hockey. You know, he. understands what's going on. He gets it. Him and Sid boys, you know, >> him on the ice. problem. My god, he had. 100 goals one season. >> Clap. Yeah, he took that. He took the. stick from here. >> It's like combining Patty Maroon and. Gretzky. >> Yeah. >> Bingo. >> Yep. I think so. Actually, >> hockey better be happy he chose. football. >> Yeah. Bingo. You're welcome. >> All right, let's go through some news uh. of the day before we make our picks and. get the hell out of here. Uh.

>> I'm I don't want to talk about it. >> Oh no. >> Mhm. Oh no. >> Everything's going right for Danny. Dimes. >> Everything you Okay. >> Yeah. Every. >> Yeah. >> What's wrong? >> Thought you break up something very bad. >> Yeah. >> I'm not even talking about the alien in. Panama. Okay. >> I'm not even talking about you were. going. >> Okay. But certainly saw it last night. Whatever the hell's going on, Wild. >> Yeah. >> Rest in peace to that guy. >> Everything's also.

>> We'd like to thank that guy for whatever. he's documenting right now if it is. real. Obviously, it is a profound. discovery. But what I would also like to. talk about is um Danny Dimes. Everything's going his way. Yeah. Him. and Riley Leonard were outside the. Indianapolis Colts practice facility. I. don't know if you saw this AJ. And they. did a closest to the pin challenge on. the 105 yd hole which goes over some. water. Danny Dimes knocks it off a rock. That's right next to the water. Closest. to the pin beats Riley Leonard. Everything is going Danny Dimes's way. I. will say Danny Dimes and Riley Leonard. both have beautiful swing.

>> I mean it was this middle season there's. no way they've been able to play in a. long time. And uh Riley Leonard puts one. to like 15 ft or something like that, 16. ft. And then Danny Dimes goes off the. rock to within 10 ft. As soon as I saw. it, I said, "Colts might win the [ __ ]. Super Bowl this year." It's a beautiful. thing. I'm happy we put it out there. And welcome to Indianapolis. And welcome. to the Colts, Danny Dimes. I think. you're going to be here for a long boom. Right there. >> Boom. And. to six feet. >> Everything's coming up. Dimes. >> That's what we're talking about. We need.

more of that happening. We need to maybe. have Danny Dimes go down to the gas. station, grabs a scratch offs, cuz he's. going to hit. We need him to just. randomly start selecting money uh. numbers so that maybe if the Powerball. gets up to what it is, Danny Dimes on. what we like to call a life heater and. we are going to be the ones that are. going to benefit from it here in. Indianapolis. Let's enjoy it all, AJ. Let's enjoy it all. I'm saying. >> I'm looking forward I mean when I see. that and I think everything's going well. like let's say Danny Dimes goes out he. leads you guys to a Super Bowl you guys. win the Super Bowl he's going to be.

hosting SNL like February March next. year he's going to be all over the place. cover of GQ muscle and fitness all of. them. >> I so I think Danny Dimes understands. that he don't want that now Saturday. will he host Saturday Night Live mate. >> he'll be good he'll be really good. >> the only thing he wants to be on the. cover of is the hard work times okay. >> that's right a blue collar magazine. >> bingo he ain't doing anything but that. ain't doing no GQ. He ain't Joe Cool. Burrow. >> He's going to have gloves on. >> that are going to have holes where the. calluses are. Showcase his calluses. He's going to have boots and big jeans.

on. Maybe a car jacket. >> Yeah, that's what he's going to He's. going to maybe have some duck paint on. cuz he just got done shooting some ducks. out there. >> Bumberjack weekly. >> Boom. Maybe [ __ ] Yeah. Over his. shoulder. Have the axe out there. That's. what Danny Dimes is out here. >> He ain't doing that other stuff. >> Yeah. GQ magazine, you had your. opportunity at the New York kid. Okay. He ain't out there anymore. >> He'll think about Playboy, though. >> What's that? >> He'll think about Playboy. >> I don't know. >> I don't think so.

>> He might. >> You got to keep Danny Dimes away from. the duck blinds. >> Okay. We went over this once with Carson. Wentz. We don't need this guy to [ __ ]. fall in love with Malard Hunting and. then he comes back and that's all he. cares about. He doesn't care about. football. >> Sounds like a hick. >> I'll tell you what, I've seen some I've. seen some real. >> pictures from duck hunters. Do they ever. not beat the Ducks? >> No, they. >> feels like they always. >> they kill 500 every single time. >> No, I watch Riley Green on uh Jimmy. Fallon. Still a show. >> Crazy what's happening in the world.

right now. Uh I watched him on Jimmy. Fallon and uh Riley Green hit that duck. call. He made that thing sing. >> It'd be hard not if you were in the sky. as a duck to be like, "Oh [ __ ]. >> what? >> Get me down there." And as soon as they. get down there, all they hear is. >> Yeah. >> Oh [ __ ] [ __ ] [ __ ]. >> You think him? >> And they don't win. >> No. Never. >> These guys have mastered and women. There's a lot of women duck hunters out. there. They have mastered the trailing. It's almost as if they know the exact.

speed that each duck is going to go. I. don't think they ever miss. >> I don't think they do either. >> No. >> Congrats to them. That got to be Hey, those ducks. So, a lot of practice. there. You think him and Devil and Duck. Hodgees go out together? Riley Green, Country World together. I do wonder if. Duck Hodgeges can keep up with Riley. Green. >> I know he's a world champion. That was. back in the day. Riley Green might be. the big Yeah, he might be. >> has taught him something with the voice. >> Yeah, all he's doing is singing. >> Jimmy Fallon. Jimmy Fallon took that. thing backwards. Riley Green said you. probably don't even know which end. you're blowing and then immediately on Q.

back end of that thing. It was good to. >> That thing's off two in two two seconds. I will say uh. >> that was an important thing to bring up. >> We had to talk about Yeah, it was. >> If we didn't get that on there, >> then it's like, why did we even do a. show today? Then go. >> Yeah. Yeah. You got to bookend the show. Yeah. With that. >> Agreed. >> Love a good bookend, >> don't you? >> That's why we always appreciate seeing. your book. >> Oh, yeah. >> Shelf back there. >> Mhm.

>> Which one's the most recent book that. you have read? >> It's a good question. >> That's a great question. That one, the. green one with the green pages probably. >> Oh, yeah. And I we've talked about this. before. you don't have a cover to the. book because you don't want to judge the. book by said cover. So, you actually. asked the publishing companies to send. them without any words on the cover. We. need a blank cover around all of them. except for that one you wanted people to. know what you hand wrote on there. You. wanted people to know what book it was. >> Uh these books though, did the kids are. are the kids starting to read these yet.

or any of the any family friends asking. about maybe sharing one? Maybe. >> leave a book. >> I don't share these books. No, you don't. get I don't share these books. No, kid. This is too advanced for my kids. Maybe. when they're 35. >> What What was that thing that they did. at that place next to I'm not a big book. reader. Sorry. Actually never done it. Uh what was the. >> quills? Yeah, they had like a leave a. book, take a book. >> Bingo. Yeah. Very popular deal. You go. in there, you drop off a book, you see. one you might like, and I [ __ ] I'll. take this one. >> Which book did you leave in there while. taking uh a very good book?

>> Uh I put Coach JB's book in there cuz I. just figured someone's got to read this. >> What is it? Hate me now, love me later. >> Bingo. Coach JB. >> Exactly. Yeah. >> Still doing it. Did you read the audio? >> Yeah, the audio version is unbelievable. I would listen to that. >> I don't know if that includes Does it. Did you leave a little thing on top to. plug in for the audio version? Like an. MP3? >> I should have. I didn't. I I left a. stick on top for whoever was going to. grab it next. Enjoy this with a stick. >> Yeah, you need need to take down a stick. there. All right, let's get to a break. We'll pick the game on the other side.

Sounded like uh Coach McCarthy went. against what he always says. >> Yeah. >> Four and a half. all points Thursday. night. >> It's Josh, man. >> Division game. I'm going go side of it. >> Like the Dolphins are going to get. [ __ ] throttled tonight. >> He didn't say that, but he did. >> Yeah, exactly. >> And his brain said that, right? >> At one point that was a thought. >> And what came out was. Bills look real good. >> Four points. But. >> Gumpy, does that make you uh feel better. or worse about this evening that people.

are going against their own rules. normally? >> I'd rather everybody go against us at. this point. Are you going against you? >> Not a chance. >> You said you wanted to fight. >> And guess what? You know who's going to. score a touchdown tonight? Alec Ingold. plus 2500. >> Okay. >> Okay. There's his touchdown bet. Uh. they've been. >> You have hope. He has some hope. >> He wants him to fight. That's what he. said. >> I just I know I know there's no moral. victories, but you have to show up. tonight. You could if you lose by a. touchdown, lose by three, the season's.

still alive with the next two games. If. you get killed tonight, it's Jover. >> Yeah. If they if they get killed. tonight, kick them off the toilet. >> legitimately. And I'm not I'm not. [ __ ] you. That's that you got to. fight tonight. You got to show up. You. talk [ __ ] You say the culture change. You got to do something. Please show up. >> You guys can't see this, but back on his. hat, it literally says low bottoms and. high hopes. >> Right now, right now, we're at low. hopes. >> We're just pulling for him to.

>> fight. I'll take a moral victory. tonight. How about that? >> Okay, I will. >> Week three, fight. >> Fight. >> That's where I'm at. >> I like that. I like that. I I think I've. been in your position maybe a couple. times throughout my life in history of. sports, either playing or watching. It's. great that we're not you. Just want it. is great to not be in your seat right. now, but I want to let you know, >> low bottoms, high hopes. Maybe tonight. changes everything. >> Good. Maybe tonight brings the Miami. Dolphins back to that team that scored.

70 points against the Denver Broncos. >> 70. Wow. You. >> remember that? I knew. >> Yeah, that was recent. >> Oh, it was a long time ago. A lot of. football has been played since that has. happened. >> Two years ago. >> A lot of hopes have been. >> smothered since then. >> Might have been week three two years. ago. >> But tonight, >> we fight. >> fight. with all our might. Fight, fight, fight, fight, fight, but close 12 and a half. Take moral victories tonight.

>> Moral victories. >> Week three division game. >> There's moral victories. I love. >> I watched that [ __ ] I watched that [ __ ]. live week one. All right, that's where. we're I saw it live week one. I watched. every snap. I saw Zach Wilson come in. and throw balls into the [ __ ] husk. Okay, just just show up, please. Thank. you. He's talking about the coconut. husk, which is obviously the rubber that. is used on our turf at Lucas Oil Stadium. as opposed to tires. Coconut husk. benefit joints, what we've been told.

>> And with that being said, Gumpy not only. saw every snap, he heard every snap. He. was the only Dolphins fan that was. within. >> and he took he sat there. >> Dolphins tarp, Dolphins hat, Dolphins. flag, I think over his head, just. sitting there just taking it from. everybody. And he walked out of here. We [ __ ] suck. >> [ __ ] this. >> And then fight against the P fight. against the Patriots. >> It was a fight. >> And then tonight, maybe more fight.

>> and then week four. Guess what? Maybe a. little. >> We're winning Monday night against the. Jets. >> Prime time again for the Fins, boys. >> All right, schedule maker. We're done. with it. >> And don't worry, it's not a double. header. >> It's not. Flex it out. Get it out of. there. >> All right. Be your friend. Tell a friend. something nice. Dumpy, >> we love you, man. >> Love you, too, man. >> Fight. >> Fight.

>> All right. Take five. [Music]. >> We're still bringing it. >> I light every bridge I see here just to. watch it burn. If you seen all the hell. I seen it make your stomach turn, I. think you know why I do what I do when I. do. [Music]. Started with 133 teams vying for one of.

these coveted 12 spots for this 12 team. playoff and it came down to two teams in. the great state of Indiana kicking this. entire thing off. I might drink a little. I might smoke a. lot. Good times. >> The best year of college football that. it's ever had is about to have the.

greatest playoffs it's ever had. And it. all starts right here in front of. Touchdown Jesus and his beautiful Irish. people. And I need you to say go Irish. booers. >> Don't do that all night. If you make. this kick, I will double his kick to. $500,000. I will also donate $250,000 to. a charity of Chris Dy's choosing. Yeah. Let it go. Oh god.

County. $750,000. The Lord is watching you. >> 1 million. [Applause]. And there's a bunch of.

>> We don't just beat top 25 teams. We beat. the [ __ ] out of you. Okay. >> But one thing you didn't learn from me. is talking all the [ __ ] you talk. >> Welcome to the most electrifying. atmosphere in all of sport. I know. European soccer fans are wild. That's. like 30 to 60,000. You're about to see. all weekend 100,000 plus bananas. atmosphere and that is one part of the. reason why college ball is so damn. great.

>> Is this not a fun show? >> No serious serious football is very. serious. >> You know, he was trying to be funny. which I get it and you know my daughter. Kristen loves him so that's kind of. soothed the soul a little bit that. somebody in our family likes the guy. I choose to believe. And for a touchdown, Jesus, and. everybody looking down, IU gets a massive win over Notre Dame.

Shane, I'm sorry. You're a real scumbag. >> I thought Coach Signetti coming out here. was a real disgrace to the game. He left. his players in the locker room to go get. some camera time for himself. I know a. legend like yourself would never do. something like that, would you? >> No. >> No. It's disgusting. I I saw it. I. thought, "Wow, what a sad, disgusting. program." Marinated by a million. Go. Irish. >> Riley Leonard and the Irish from their. own two. Jeremiah Love breaks free. Jeremiah Love trying to go 98.

Touchdown. [Music]. >> Might be fiction for a blowout here, fellas. couldn't wait to get to the. wonderful state of oh. [Applause]. the SEC coming up to the Big 10 when. it's cold as hell. We shall settle the. conversation here in beautiful Columbus.

Coach that hairline you get a haircut. every day. >> Not every day. Not every day. >> Big beard, big boot, fetus and toes. 500. Oh, this guy sucks. Holy. Holy cow. This guy's the worst we. ever see. Just took out the Ohio State. cheerleaders. >> $1 million here. JD. >> This guy sucks the kicking butt. We. appreciate the hell out of you. Hey JR, there he is. He was once wiped 100.

times. The wide world. >> Yeah. 100 times. There are actually. people out there, psychos obviously that. like the nonfrosted poparts. Gary, one. of the best football players I've ever. been around. Nonfrosted strawberry pop. I like nonfrosted pops. >> I like nonfrosted pops. >> Now I at one point this year was the. mayor of Cocktown. You were the mayor. Mayor of Cocktown. Yeah. They voted me. in there. And this is my How did you. become the mayor of Cocktown? He's going.

to go around and say, "Listen, I hard. [ __ ] I hard Cocks." I'm sorry. Numerous. Whenever we found out that. there was going to be a college football. playoff game in Columbus, Ohio, we were. all jacked up to see this Ohio State. faithful be showcased to the entire. world about how much they love football. Then we walked out here to this game day. set this morning and it was rock.

>> Well, in that song they say it's home. Home for me is the north and the cold is. going to be the hard. Give me the Ohio. State [ __ ]. representing. >> I knew you. >> for the Big 10. [Applause]. >> How cool was Sean Perkins, the Ohio. State football team for allowing us to. hang out in their facility pretty much. all day Saturday. They had five TV.

setups, a bunch of recliners. Roosters. supply some phenomenal food. Turn on Henderson in the open field. Henderson is scoring. Another for the. Ohio State. [ __ ] Story of the game thus.

far is Chad Kelly is going mad dummy, bro. All of Ohio is excited. They were. singing last. night. from broke my heart. First, second, third on check. Would hate to be a Tennessee fan or a. chair near Morgan Wall cuz they have no. hope right now.

By and large, these games have been. absolutely stunk. raising absolute hell. A couple people. up here with that smoky orange face. paint on that are feeling real [ __ ]. right now. >> As we look to the exits and the. Volunteers fans are saying, "Get my ass. back to the South. This one's over.". Bounces it, knocks it in. Let's go Ohio.

State. Boys, that was wide ass over. 500 drones. Ones that we know about. This game's over, but uh we're still. pretty. >> Okay. Oh yeah. Hilarious. Hell yeah.

>> You earned that, buddy. >> Hey, let's go. >> This show stinks. And the fact that you. listen, we are very, very thankful. >> McAfee on the line with a gorgeous. assist. >> The alltime leading tackler for the. Green Bay Packers. You can't. stop. Stop. Damn it. Be a friend. Tell a. friend something nice could change their. life. [Music].

>> Hello beautiful people and welcome back. to our humble the boat. The Thunderdome. on this NFL week three kickoff Thursday. September 18th 2025 hour three of the. program begins now. Football is the greatest sport of all. time. That man's a college football. national champion and a Super Bowl. champion. That's Ag Hawk. The talks of. Ted was here at Boston Connor and at Ty. Schmidt one half of the hammer dad. Cowboys AP Tone is here and uh I'd like. to introduce something to the show.

officially. >> See those AJ? >> Oh those shacks. >> Yeah, a little shacks here, brother. I'll tell you what. >> It's getting me. >> Saw them on Amazon. Had to pull the. trigger. Yeah. Don't Don't look too. >> Those are sweet. >> They're gigantic. It's a nice reminder. of what shoes used to be like. >> These things feel like I'm putting on. like old school football cleat. That. That's what they feel like right now. And obviously, you're just supposed to. wear them on dayto day and whenever.

you're about to go wreck a rim, obviously, but these things are. gigantic. I mean, there's a lot of. there's a lot of stuff around them. My. toes are at the very tip of this thing. I do think they make me Do they make me. shoot better? >> Yeah, let's find out. >> I don't know if that's what they're. meant for. Oh, I think so. >> Okay. I I think that shout out. Hey, Shaq, shout out, dude. Appreciate that. That ball falling there is uh good vibes. and good signs as we head into week.

three of the NFL season. AJ, last week. you won in the picks. Congratulations. You're back on the board. You know, first week you were horrendous. This. past week you got hot. Is that going to. continue? We shall see tonight. Dolphins. taking on the Bills at ESPN Bet. It's. back to 11 and a half. It was 11 and a. half at ESPN Bet to start the show. Some. other books had them at 12 and a half. Middle of the show, ESPN Bet moved it to. 12 1/2. Everybody was kind of sitting at. 12 and 1/2. Now we're back to 11 1/2 at.

ESPN bet. Let's go to one half of the. hammer. Don Cowboys AP Tone. What does. that mean? >> Uh, everywhere is 11 1/2 except for one. book is at 12 1/2. Um, I assume it's. just fluctuating money coming in on the. Bills. So they jumped it up to 12 and a. half for a second and then there was. some money coming in on the Dolphins. So. then went back down to 11 and a half. >> Okay. So kind of a mixed bag. What's the. percentage of bets here? >> 72% are on the Bills tonight which is. not surprising. I thought it' probably. more to be honest with you. >> Okay. Mike McCarthy also likes the. Bills. Uh both at 12 1/2 and at 11.

Remember he made his pick at 12 1/2. >> He did. >> Okay. So let's hold him to that. >> Don't forget that. >> Yeah. Let's not forget that with coach. Mike McCarthy. He'd want that type of. standard anyway. >> Well, there was 11 and a halfs out there. when he did make the pick. >> Yeah. Yeah. So, I guess with our own. rules, we kind of have to go with the. best option available. So, he's at 11. and a half. Uh Connor, anything you're. thinking about for tonight's game. >> Uh the only thing is the desperation. Miami backs against the wall. That's it. I mean, Noad Elver probably going to be. big. Didn't really hurt the Bills last. week with the Jets, but with Achain and.

Ollie Gordon, you you would assume maybe. they do run the ball a bit. I don't. know. It's just one of those games just. like the Dallas Cowboys and the. Philadelphia Eagles. It's not as. dramatic of a situation cuz it's week. two and not week or week three, excuse. me, not week one, but they are desperate. and these games are always close. >> Ty Smith 274 can happen. >> Yeah, exactly. That's kind of what I was. thinking, especially with hearing what. Sheffy said about their secondary being. super banged up. Miamiy's I mean like. it's tough to envision that they won't. win by at least two touchdowns. And I.

think even, you know, if you're a. Dolphins fan, maybe that's not the end. of the world. You're just trying to. avoid, hey, we we can't get beat by five. touchdowns tonight. But I I think it's. very likely that the the Bills win by at. least two touchdowns. >> Uh Gumpy, you're hearing what. everybody's saying. 72% of the world is. on the Buffalo Bills right now from the. website that we're reading. Gumpy, you've heard it all morning. Obviously, it's been a little emotional throughout. times of uh both the pre-show and even. during the show, you got a little worked. up there. >> Uh how do you lean here as we final and.

why should we pick the Dolphins? Jaylen. Wright also back tonight, one of our. running backs. If you get Jaylen Wright, AJ Chain going, and Ollie Gordon, you. could control possession a little bit. >> That's what you have to do. Like, this. is the thing. No, >> we have we run for a lot of yards, but. we don't run the ball is the issue. Like, McDaniel, you have to run the. ball. >> They're they're making gains. They just. refuse to run the ball. You have three. good running backs pound the rock.

>> Is that why you're wearing that jersey? Is it like a subtle reminder to. McDaniel? Maybe if he saw you on TV. today like, "Oh, we got a pretty good. running back in a chance.". >> He's actually my favorite player on the. team, though. >> More Tua and Tyreek. What? >> This guy. I like this guy. >> Wo. >> It's always kind of bang. I didn't I had. the Waddle jerseys hanging in my locker. as well. He's banged up, though. I. didn't know if he was playing or not. >> I mean, this is this what it's all. about. >> Yeah. He didn't do it on Sunday. >> Yeah. The owner was doing it. >> Yeah. And then he scored. He didn't. walk. >> And then he stopped cuz the owner was.

doing it. Like, you know what? Just jump. the shark. Maybe jump the dolphin here. Yeah. >> Uh AJ 11 and a half is the spread. I. know you have been seeing the board well. here for the last few days. The NFL is. unpredictable. Division games are. unpredictable. Thursday night games. unpredictable. Or are they? You know, they're unpredictable until they're not. >> Correct. >> And we got to remember there's been 90%. public bet that has covered in the past. >> And usually around this time is when the. public does hit. There's been games that. have seemed too obvious to be true and.

then they were as obvious as we thought. they were going to be. But there's. always that thought that the games that. we also have seen is a team change who. it is for one game for four quarters. They piece it together and they're able. to beat anybody. Could tonight be the. turning point of this Miami Dolphins. team, this Miami Dolphins franchise, this entire program, organization's. trajectory? Does it change tonight? And. do they beat the Bills? Do they keep it. close? Or do the Bills win by at least.

11 and a half? AJ Hawk, you will go. first. >> A lot of times in these situations when. I I take like the obvious pick with all. these with so many points in the NFL, I. think it's tough to cover when you have. 11 and a half a spread like this. We. don't see this a whole lot, but I think. the Dolphins know they have a great. opportunity. I don't think they find a. way to capitalize on it. I think the. Bills win by 14 plus. >> Okay. Uh AJ's got the Bills. What's up? What are you worried about?

>> Just hold on. He's dying. I mean, it's a. big spread and you're seeing the board. process. >> Yeah, you took the Bills. That does. change. You're seeing the board right. now. So, everything Connor just said and. the tone I take into account if other. people are seeing it. You know, you one. week right there. What I was doing is. that one week of seeing it or is he. actually understanding what's going on. right now? >> Who are you talking to? >> Right there in my head. Mhm. >> Me. >> Okay. I don't know if there's some sort. of shaman or. >> Well, I would hope it is actually a much.

smarter version of me. Every time I do. that have the selft talk, >> I'm always hoping to [ __ ] god it's a. better me that's answering. >> I picture you like Ace when he was in. the in the den and then he hovered above. himself. >> Ventur Ace Ventura that is. >> Oh yeah. I remember when you're talking. about whenever he was down in the. jungle. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. I understand what you're saying. >> Probably too. >> Your balls are shut. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Go ahead. I mean, I was going to say. this basically it like this is the last. time all year you can bet on the you can. pick the Dolphins. >> Yeah, you really would like and that. might be because you're a Patriots.

>> No, no. I I just think that the Colts. are really good and I think that there. there's a chance here that the Patriots. end up being a pretty solid team and the. Dolphins aren't that bad. >> And you're saying I watched every snap. of the Dolphins last week and also I saw. them week one. They look like a much. better team against the Patriots than. maybe they looked against the. Indianapolis Colts is what you're. saying. Yes. And I genuinely think the. Colts are like one of the top eight. teams in the NFL right now. So like can. we really hurt them that much? Like it's. the same with the Packers.

>> But you know who else is one of the top. eight teams in the NFL right now? >> Buffalo Bills. >> The Buffalo Bills. >> Give me 274 at least. Buffalo Bills. winning that game. I uh. I mean it might be. >> I like the Buffalo Bills. >> I'm just put in the end. I'm just. >> I didn't watch that whole New England. Miami game. You see that's the problem. here. I haven't seen cuz I think they. had good moments, great moments in. there, right? >> They had really good moments. But again, the the other thing with the the Miami. Dolphins game is just that the Patriots,

you know, their defense isn't all out. there. You know, it's hard to even judge. that. >> Our defense also can't get a stop. >> Okay, give me the Bills. Thank you. That. was awesome. Appreciate that, Gumpy. I. know you're pulling for the Dolphins. tonight. I know Connor is pulling for. them to keep it close. I assume there's. going to be a lot of money potentially. on it. Uh let's go, AJ. Let's win this. thing. Let's do this. >> Let's get a perfect board this week. >> Oh, >> why not? I think we can. I told you I'm. I am very biased from the 10 minutes of. Hard Knocks episode I watched of the.

Buffalo Beals like August 17th airing. and I saw the the camaraderie of that. team and that is that has stuck into my. brain when I see how much these guys. enjoy being around each other. >> Shane Stiken just said that yesterday. about the Colts team. He's like, "Hey, they hang out. They go to dinners. multiple dinners a week. They hang out. It's just the vibes are vastly. different." And it's like that means. something. I think we look at that a lot. more than other people do. Anytime. there's a miked up, I'm trying to see. how they're interact. That's all I'm. trying to see is the interaction. How's. the interaction? When we're watching a. sideline, we're just trying to see the. interaction. Hard knocks stories are.

cool. Guy does rocks and [ __ ] Okay. Sick. How do they how do they interact? And that's all that's all I want to see. Legit, all the teams that I've been. around and been on that are good or. great, the boys like each other. whenever it's clearly that they aren't. all on the same team, it's teams aren't. good. It's just an X factor that seems. to show up with great teams and uh. doesn't get talked about it much. I. agree with what you're saying about that. Buffalo Bills hard knocks. I do. Division game though, Thursday night,

that's a short week. I mean, >> the Beatles though, it's big for the. Bills. The Bills are rolling and. everyone had like they have everyone's. respect and everything. They know they. don't want any let down. If they go drop. a game to the Dolphins, that changes. their season too pretty quickly, even. though they'll be fine either way, but. they don't want this to happen. >> I mean, you're it's uh you start. thinking about how the game goes and. what happens. Like, if the Beatles with. all that energy at home come out and get. an early big lead, then we're talking. >> scorched earth. Yeah.

>> And also potentially Miami. >> Yes. Yeah. >> You know, >> turning down a little bit maybe at that. moment. Maybe some disagreements, maybe. some miscommunication happens, but if. Miami is able to battle there, >> gets the ball first. >> Yeah. If they're able to keep that. thing, then. >> get Tyreek, they got to get a deep ball. to Tyreek early. Like Miami needs. something like that to happen early. Let's get Tyreek involved. Let's get. some excitement early and get on the. board. That's Miami's chance. >> Yeah. So, let's watch that first. quarter. What's the uh I mean, that's a. bigger question mark, I think, than the. overall game because how the first.

quarter goes, I think, is how we're. going to find out what the game is. If. Buffalo's dominant, that's going to be. >> even that first drive because if the. Bills, you know, Buffalo faithful, Bills. Mafia gets going after like a three and. out from Miami and then the Bills go. score and then they play Mr. Bright Side. or some [ __ ] it's going to be real. hard, you know, ending the first quarter. 140. >> Both teams want the ball here, right? I. think. >> probably I think both both offenses are. better. >> I could see Buffalo being like, "Fuck. it. No, kick it. Let our fans eat here.

for a second.". >> Bills are minus three and a half first. quarter. If that if it fancies you. >> What's Do we have the percentages on. who's on what there? >> No. >> What's the over under of the first. quarter? >> The over under of the first quarter. The. first quarter total nine and a half. >> Oh, >> I like over there. >> Yeah, >> I like over for that and the whole game. >> 73. >> Well, you're going over. >> Yeah, I want to feel alive tonight. >> Oh, >> I love it, Tony. >> You like that, Tony? 15 and a half is a. lot of points. >> It is. >> That's a lot of points. >> Bills rush defense stinks. Dolphins. stink. So, >> okay. >> Points, points, points.

Once again, I would love to see Willie. Gay get some burn. The guy's a ball of. energy. He's so good. He's played two. [ __ ] snaps all year. He's soap. He's. so good at football. He just doesn't Why. isn't he playing? >> I have no I have no idea. I I put out a. clip. It has like 500,000 views. No one. knows why this guy doesn't play. He had. two snaps. He had a tackle and another. tackle for a five- yard loss where he. hyped up everybody. Took him off the. field. New England made a third and 17. screen. All right, we're excited for. tonight. We're excited for Gumpy. He.

said, "Willie Gay, one of the best. players of all training camp." They're. saying, "God, I can't. What does he. >> Let's see him on the field then.". >> They were saving them for Thursday. night. Buffalo Bill. >> It must been what it was. Tonight could. be the night for the Miami Dolphins and. their fans. And for that reason and that. reason alone, we're pulling for it. >> Yeah. >> But on the flip side, this could be the. year for the Buffalo Bills. And tonight. could be a big one on national prime. time. only people on to say, "Hey, this. is who we is." If you were wondering. about the Buffalo Bills, I'm excited for.

tonight. All right, we're gonna toss a. conversation we had a chance to have. with Stanford Steve and about college. ball, especially this weekend. I think. you're going to enjoy it. It's a segment. that we're calling uh another college. football convo with Stanford. Steve, we. think you'll enjoy it and also we think. it'll give a good breakdown on the story. lines that you need to know going into. college ball. And on that note, be your. friend. Tell a friend something nice. It. might change your life. We're in this. thing together. Team on me. Team on. three. Let's enjoy tonight.

>> Oh yeah. >> Okay. Let's enjoy this life. Don't feel. >> Let's enjoy ball. 15 and a half's a lot. of points. I hope the over hits for all. of us. Team on three. 1 2 3. Goodbye. >> But let's get to this Miami Florida. game. Stanford Steve and welcome to. another edition of uh another college. football convo with Stanford Steve. It's. honor to be here. >> Honor to be here. Stay for Steve. What. are the storylines of the weekend, brother? >> Uh, let's go to where we're going to be. at. Uh, Gumpy Squad is is is hosting.

game day, Pat. So, buckle up. I see he's. got no sleeves on already and it's early. on Wednesday in the week. I can't wait. to see what he brings. >> Going to be hot down there. Going to be. hot. >> I see rain. I think we might need a. slicker. I mean, your rain slicker. >> Well, it's Miami, right? We always have. rain. Always. All right. Okay. Hurricane. season. >> A will be delay. >> Oh, it's going to be so thick. I'm going. to sweat. I'm going to be broiling in. there from the inside and the outside. Oh my god. I'm sorry, Steve. It's going. to be great to We're pumped to be going. to be going down Miami. Law of legends. from the U. Obviously can't wait to pay.

tribute and respect to the university. and I think our setup's going to be. sick. Like I I think it is going to be a. nasty setup down there. With that being. said, it is early in the season be that. south. >> Oh yeah. >> You know, that is the south southest you. can get. >> It is going to be the thick 86 400%. humidity. It says 76% to who? Maybe the. locals. To me, that's going to be 150%. And then next one, 85% humidity there. That's at night. That might as well be. 130% humidity. 77's going to feel like.

what? 120. And uh hydrate cuz you're. going to sweat your ass off. That being. said, you'll be worth every drip. >> Amen. >> Cannot wait to say that I've been to the. U. I cannot wait to get down there. And. I'll tell you, I think because it's two. Florida teams, a lot of people wondering. why the hell would you go to that when. there's other options? It's like I think. that the Florida series this year has. drawn more hype and obviously Miami gets. the host one. I think that potentially. went into it. Although Indiana is about. 45 minutes south of here.

>> True. >> Hey, and they are certainly taking on a. good Illinois team and that would have. been an electrifying environment like it. was last year. Why do you think this. game was the College Game Day uh show? You and I both have no say in where it. goes. I think we should be very very. clear about that because that is the. truth. Um, but why do you think this was. the game that we chose to go to and what. are your thoughts on it? >> Uh, I think it's the storylines, Pat. Uh, you know, you mentioned, you know, maybe mo some of the the biggest hype. quarterback coming in in the SEC, uh, was DJ Lagway with with the stars that.

were attached to his name coming out. Uh, you know, him having success at the. end of that last year. It sound like. they saved Billy Napier's job. But. again, when the schedule comes out, you. see you're about to get your teeth. kicked in with what you have to do. knowing that they play these kind of out. of conference games. They still got. Florida State later in the year uh in. their rivalry game. So, I look at. Florida as the as the biggest story. knowing how much people want to talk. about coaches and hot seat and all that, but on the other side, that's the story.

for me. I believe Miami is the best team. in the country. They're playing that. way. Um the the defense is insane. Carson Becks looks as he looks as. comfortable as any quarterback in the. country. Uh when you watch him and my. biggest question for the U I think I. said it last week, how are they going to. replace their top six pass catchers from. last year along with a quarterback that. comes in when no spring ball, limited. summertime, had the surgery on the. elbow? We were there in the SEC. championship last year. So that's what.

the question was. And man, they've hit. the ground running. Uh they look. fantastic. the speed and the physicality. on defense is is crazy to me. And um. back against the wall, this is what we. want. I mean, Debb, we talked about it. last week. Uh South Florida against. Miami. How many guys know each other? This is even more so because this was. guys taking each other's spots. Hey, where you going? I'm going to go the. other place or screw that. I'm going to. go there and start over you. We got it. all here. I just think Miami should be. ranked higher. I don't know about you. guys.

>> Florida Miami big time rivalry or just. because they're Florida State's always. going to be a rivalry. And what Steve. just said there, pretty accurate. statement about like these guys are. getting offered to both these places and. picking and choosing. >> Yeah, for sure. When it comes to the. recruits when it comes to the athletes, I would say more more so of a rivalry in. Florida is Florida State Miami. That's. definitely a much bigger rivalry. But. with this matchup, Steve, how does the. UF secondary and the UF defense match up. with all these weapons and how Beck is. playing, the weapons on the outside, the. running back, how do they match up? I. know, you know, when you throw five. picks like Lagway did, that's a bad spot.

for any defense to be in. But how does. this defense match up man for man across. this Miami offense? >> Uh I that's that's the teller. I mean. because you go back as bad as it was. five picks he throws right that Florida. defense hung in there and they got Caleb. Banks last week but then he left later. in the game. They only gave up one. touchdown. Lagway threw five picks and. Florida Florida hung in there in what I. consider the toughest environment to. play in college football. So I I believe. Florida has the goods. I mean you go up. against LSU for four quarters and you.

keep going on. I mean, those sudden. changings get get old, man. You don't. even sit down and your quarterback's. throwing a pick. Uh, but I I believe. Florida has the goods. I just worry. about their consistency on offense. That's where it comes down to me. They. can't run the fall run the ball. consistently. And that's Napier's. offense because everything is set up uh. off the play action. And then. >> again, the same mistakes. They had a 87. yard touchdown called back because of a. penalty. You can't have those things uh. when you're playing on the road and. especially when your coach is on the hot.

seat like Napier. So Florida has to be. more buttoned up if they're going to. compete in this game. >> Yeah, they they've they have shot. themselves in the foot the last two. weeks. Like they could have won both. those games. They only lost by 10 with. five interceptions and off they had. penalties again. USF was penalties and. mistakes in the red zones, fumbles, turnovers, things like that. Snap over. the head for a safety. Like Florida, they could be fine, but now they're not. And the spread here is seven and a half. And the numbers aren't out yet on on. where the public money is yet, but I. assume I don't know 98% is probably. going to be on uh on Miami this week.

because they are the darlings. They are. the sweethearts right sweethearts right. now. I I assume everyone's going to be. on Miami. >> I totally agree with you and that's what. makes it pretty scary. If this if it's. all going to go on Miami and it's. staying at over just over a touchdown. tone, that's where you get a little. dicey. Uh Florida cannot be as bad as. they were last week on offense. That's. what I'm expecting. And if the money's. that way, uh you I think you got to take. Florida plus plus the touchdown. >> I love uh I just love that we got a nice.

Florida battle happening. Bunch of. Florida boys battling in the southern. tip of Florida. >> celebrating Florida football this week. That that that is kind of how I'm. viewing it. >> Um DJ Lagway, >> you talked about high high hypes. Uh. yeah, I'd say him and Arch both. >> Yeah. He's, you know, kind of coming. into the season. >> He's lucky right now. >> Yeah. Him and Orange both coming into. the season had a lot of hype. Do we. think they're dead? Like, do we think. it's just going to take some time? Like, what are our thoughts? Cuz DJ Lagway. last year,

>> I think we all thought, "Holy hell, this. is all turning around." Then they get a. full off season of him being the guy. So, you would automatically assume we're. going to get better here. Now, I'm not. saying that LSU defense isn't fantastic. They are. I'm I'm not saying, you know, down in Baton Rouge it isn't an. incredibly difficult place to play. It. is. Okay, I understand that. But that. decision right there, I I mean, there's. just like a lot going on. >> in decision- making as well as accuracy. and like everything that's going into. it. And I'm not saying Arch Manning. isn't going through the same exact. stuff. You know, they're winning and. everything like that, but since the.

first game, but he's got some accuracy. issues, some decision-m issues that I. don't think any of us expected. DJ. Lagway, same exact thing with the whole. offseason. Do do we just think it's. going to take a little What are our. thoughts here? Is it everybody else has. a book on DJ Lagway as well? Maybe. >> I I think it's a combination of things, Pat, but when you want to talk about. Lagway specifically, this is where I was. wary of Florida coming into the season. They made a big deal. He didn't they. didn't lose a game. He started last. year, but if you look close, he never. play he never started in an SEC road.

game last year. And now you combine that. with last week where they're off a loss. and now he goes into the best. environment in college football. I. didn't know how he was going to respond. And when you go back all the timing and. you read all the local stuff, they were. so irritated because they were like, "This guy's got to practice with what we. have on this schedule. He's got to get. reps." And I think the lack of reps, you. saw that. And then you compound that. with that atmosphere, that defense, the. the play caller that LSU has on defense, you saw it. It it was it was just a.

title wave. They couldn't slow down. Uh. I mean, one of those picks is in triple. coverage going in. If he throws the. check down, you're down 20 to 13. It's. one possession game in the fourth. quarter. So you could tell he was. totally flustered. They kept showing. Napier talking to him. But the other. thing is Florida was supposed to have. one of the best offensive lines and. they're not holding their end of the. bargain. So it comes with protection and. again going back to that run game. They. got Ball is a great running back and. they can't get him loose. I think it was. 10 for 40. That's not good enough for. the SEC especially in Napier's offense.

They have to be better around Lagway and. I think that goes the same for Arch if. you want mention Texas. they everybody. else has to has to get better. Uh you. know, when you look at Texas last year, the guys that made made people miss, Texas doesn't have that, the lack of. separation, O line inconsistencies, that. that's been the biggest thing. I I get. it. Everybody's going to focus on the. quarterback. We for to the end of time, we're going to do that in in football. But the other guys got to come up and. play better to help this help that. situation. >> Arch is going to be just fine.

>> Yeah. >> Okay. Let the boy develop. Mhm. >> Let the boy learn the game. >> Sure. Takes time. >> Okay. >> We don't any moment could be the time. though. >> Yeah. >> You know, and that's kind of the. conversation where that I was, you know, about DJ Lagway there. It's like at what. moment is the time? Do we think the time. that he is full-fledged guy coming soon. or do we think it's going to take a. little bit? And then also LSU, they. might be for real. >> They hit on transfers. >> Oh yeah, >> LSU might be for real. For realers, those picks. >> number 10 there, I don't know his name.

either. He was striding two and a half. yards on that pick six. I I mean he was. down the side. I. >> Is this This is maybe the smoothest. stride I've seen in some time. Give me. that. And let me go ahead. Is he 6'5? That guy. >> huge. >> Striding. Just casual striding. >> They do have a 6'5 corner. That might be. him. Tallest ever, right? >> Is that him? Jesus. >> Deshawn Spears is his name is is who. made the pick. >> Deshawn Spears. How uh. >> let's get the dams here. Wait, we didn't.

see how tall that guy got. That was. unbelievable. 63. >> 63 208. >> Okay, so we got a 63 208 guy and then. they got a 65 DB down there. >> No fly zone. >> Holy [ __ ]. >> Yeah. And he's 6'3, but his upper body. is only 2 feet. I mean, his his legs. have to be. >> He was string. >> Is this the year for Brian Kelly? >> That's what I'm saying. Like that looked. that looked what they did to DJ Lagway. Obviously, unbelievable. >> The home field advantage that they've. always had. I think if you listen to. them, they've always had they just maybe.

haven't taken advantage of enough. It's. like, is this the team for Louisiana? >> The crazy part is their offense has not. looked good yet. Like it didn't look. good against Clemson and we know and. Clemson is are they even good right now. and it didn't look good last week. against against uh Florida. So like and. it's only going to get better. Like NUS. is a really good quarterback. The old. the O line is the question mark because. they brought in four new starters this. year. So if that starts to gel then yeah. the offense will be better and then. they'll as a team be great. Offensive. line seemingly the issue everywhere in. football by the way. Yeah. If you got. one, you're good. If you don't, you're.

bad. Last question on this particular. game. Go ahead. Comment. >> Yeah, stand for Steve. Are they still uh. having Billy Napier call plays? And. those conversations on the sideline, it. feels like that's something that, you. know, should benefit the player, but. clearly Laguay still didn't have um any. any improvement throughout the game. Is. there a chance that his seat is hot and. then or sorry, not that his seat is hot, you've already said that. Is there a. chance they let him go mid-season if. this continues to go you know downhill. and Lagway continues to play um kind of. subpar?

Yeah, I was uh you know, obviously the. authority has all the info on that one, but it was interesting with that idea. Uh Connor, the the the idea of letting. your coach go this early and worried. about guys are jumping in the portal. From what I've read and heard this week. is like at UCLA and Virginia Tech, those. contracts the players have are like. incentive based and time based. So like. if they were to jump in the portal, they're not getting paid. So I think. that that's one good thing. like you. want to hear positives about this era, that helps, but it doesn't uh keep them.

from red shirting. That that's where the. idea um gets a little um you know, hazy. as far as the specifics. Uh but yeah, I. I think if if they were. >> Nico is going to. like stay on the team and. >> just work out, don't play, don't. practice. >> Yeah, you can play three games, right? Or four games? >> Yeah, four. >> Four. Yeah. So you get. >> Oh, that sucks. Might as well. >> Man, school should have thought of No, good for the player. Good for the.

player. >> Good for the player. >> If it ends up working out, >> good for the school. >> Future schools though, >> definitely wait till after all the. players can register, >> you know. Definitely wait until after. that. Just might be what they do. Might. be what they do after this week. >> Just something certainly Florida might. do. Who knows? But just going forward, I. think universities should think about. that cuz if I'm a player over there and. we suck bad. and. I mean it'd be impossible not to just be.

Yeah, I'll red shirt. Is that a. possibility? Yeah. What do I do? >> You're getting fired, right? Oh, okay. So, I'm not going to play this year then. because it's kind of a wash. I'm going. to red shirt. >> So, why would with everybody that would. be talking to the players? Everybody's. going to tell them you can red shirt. this year. You just take a red shirt. year this year if you want to. You know, no problem. You're allowed to do that. Can't transfer. They still have to pay. you take a red shirt year. Blah blah. blah. It's like, wow, they got to get. that. >> That's pretty good little little back. door. >> Yeah, they got to figure this whole. thing out. You You said you want to talk. about positives in this era. There's a. lot of interesting negatives that are. certainly around the entire game as.

well. >> I just wonder though, cuz you're talking. right now, VAT and UCLA specifically, how many people are calling? You're 0. and three with losses to New Mexico and. Old Dominion and like let's let's be. realistic here. Like get yourself. better. Let's let's start about worrying. about that. Oh, I like that. You You. might find yourself in a transporter. with no home. You might go from UCLA. You might go from UCLA to. >> Mount Union. >> Yeah. >> Okay. Or UCLA to Delaware. This might.

not be what you think. >> Football team. >> Delaware was good. Blue. They did. something this weekend. They did. something this. >> good football team. >> Is that what happened? >> We don't need to talk about it. We got. >> I didn't know. I didn't know that's how. that works. Okay, let's go to the next. game. Yeah, good call D but that did. happen though in college football. >> That's I had no idea. >> Oh yeah. >> Yukon play Delaware. >> Oh yeah. >> Possible. >> Yeah. How much did Yukon pay Delaware.

>> to lose? >> It's a good question. >> That's a great question. That's good. business up there for the Delaware. folks. >> Same thing with like Florida, Miami, Miami, Florida State. You know, those. guys know each other, you know. >> Same familiar. >> Go ahead. What's uh what's next there. for Steve? >> Big pregame speech, too. Yeah, >> Steve Bun always got it. I love it. Um, we got to do Illinois at Indiana 9. versus 19. 19 ranked Hooers are a 5 and. a half point favorite. Take that for. what you want. What's really interesting.

is these quarterbacks, both transfers, their numbers are almost identical. Mendoza 55 to 76 for 708, nine. touchdowns. Altmire 56 to 78, 709, eight. touchdowns. First time, first time these. two teams are ranked in playing since. 1950. >> I look at it almost, you know, people. want to already fast forward to the. playoff. I don't see the loser being. able to make the playoff. Uh, this is a. monster game, Pat. When we talked. earlier in the year about who's taking.

that next step to get that fourth Big 10. team into the playoff, these are. definitely two ta two candidates. This. is a great matchup. >> It's really close here, too. And uh you. could feel the electricity. >> in the air for this one. But you're. talking about two teams that nobody. would have predicted to be great at. football four years ago. Kurt Signetti. and Bilma doing what they're doing at. their respective schools is obviously a. beautiful thing. I think Illinois has. money too. I think Illinois does have.

money behind them. I think they're going. to continue to be able to be good in the. transfer portal in the off season with. NIO and everything like that. And then. you talk about Indianapolis. Kurt. Signetti had to completely reload his. team and he was able to do it. Now, >> he did feel a little bit of a pinch. >> cuz they're trying to get good at. basketball again. New coach comes in. here. I did feel a little bit of a. pinch. Had to go scratch some more backs. of some boosters to do what we did last. year. But I I think he's been able to do. that. I think both these teams are going. to be good for the foreseeable future.

>> Yes. >> Now, will one of them go on to be great? Like Indiana last year obviously was. great. makes it to the play. Everything. that happens with them, they lose, but. still nobody expected that. Will these. teams continue to be good or will both. of them or one of them end up being. great in another powerhouse in the Big. 10, which would be great for the entire. conference, especially with where we're. headed in the future? Tone, what are. your thoughts on this game? >> I It's interesting because Illinois kind. of gave me preseason, gave me vibes of. last year of like Oklahoma State and.

Virginia Tech because they had a bunch. of returning guys, but they won like six. one-score games last year. So, was their. record inflated? Maybe. But they looked. really good against Duke. It was a close. first half, but then they just. absolutely throttled him in the second. half. Uh, I think it was like 4119. So, they looked good there. That's a good. road win. Uh, but I IU I think is very. similar to the IU team last year. Like, they brought back a lot of guys. They. brought back an allconerence player at. all three levels levels on the defense. And then Sarat and Cooper Jr. who you're. watching score here now. Those are the. were the two leading receivers last. year. So, like Mendoza's looked really.

good. They haven't played anyone yet. Obviously, they didn't play anyone uh. early in the season last year either, but they I mean, the IU team looks. similar to the IU team that I watched. last year in my opinion. >> Steve, do you think it's fair to say. like I know we have a lot of uh you. know, like fivestar quarterbacks who are. young in the Big 10 right now, but and. it's I mean I I kind of want to smack. myself for even saying this, but do. Illinois and Indiana have the two best. quarterbacks in the Big 10? >> Whoa, that's a good one. Um they're in. the upper tier for sure, Ty. When you.

when you look at what they. >> No, we want to know the best. >> We want to know is it the best? >> We're not predicting future either. We're so like. >> at this exact right now. >> A story just came out today that Luke. Altmire turned down, you know, $3. million to go start at an SEC school. because he wanted to stay at Illinois. and, you know, believed in Bumma and. what they were building. >> I love that. >> I would say no. >> Okay. >> They don't have the two best. >> All right. >> I I I like what I've seen at Oregon and. USC better. Riley's offense, you're the. one saying, "Hey, USC deserves a lot.

more respect than what they're getting.". Finally ranked 25, I believe. You were. saying they should have been ranked. earlier in the season because of eyes. watching them play ball. Let's get back. to uh this particular game. Altmire, Mendoza, both these teams have to win in. your eyes to make playoff. Either of. these teams have opportunity to win in. playoff. You think whenever push comes. to shove, either of these teams have. enough talent to win whenever you're. going to have to. Are either of these. programs able to pay enough talent to. win whenever you get to the top, which.

is what it is. You know, a lot of. coaches have said it. It is just the. reality of the situation. You got to. have dogs or you got to create dogs in. one season and ride them and then in the. offseason they're probably. >> going somewhere else. >> So, it's like it's either you get a. group throughout a season that becomes. elite at these schools. And I'm not. saying it and I don't want to put. Illinois down or make Indiana feel down. This is the reality. This is West. Virginia as well. If we have a guy that. comes out of nowhere for our team, CJ. Donaldson, yes, he's going to get paid. to go to Ohio State. There's like six of.

these schools, seven of these schools. that have all the money. Everybody else. just has to I still think you can win, but you got to create that talent. throughout the year. And then you got to. hope like Altmire, they believe in the. program. They want to stick around in. this entirety. Do either of these teams, you think, have an opportunity to go. ahead and win the whole damn thing with. how they're constructed? >> Not the whole thing, but they can make. they can win a game. What do you know? A. game a game would be. >> the whole thing. >> A game would be. >> that that a win in the playoff is.

enormous for these teams like. >> Oh, yeah. Absolutely. Absolutely. >> And and possibly a home game on one of. these campuses. >> That's. >> Hey, welcome to the North SEC. >> That's right. >> You got to play Illinois in January. >> Oh, so cold. >> Yikes. You kidding me? >> Top champion. >> Hey, congratulations. You're going to. Indiana. Bloomington, Indiana. It'll be. -3 and it'll be an arctic chill. >> Good luck. Come out with your shirts off. to prove that you're not cold.

>> Yeah, it'll be uh that'll be the right. play. >> I use Incredible, too. It's sweet like. them being good in like this state, especially with football being back in. Indiana with the, you know, Colts. Uh. Steve, are they going to be doing this. every single year, you think? Not not. just IU, too. Like even Miami, their. strategy now is just going to be, hey, we can bring in a guy every year at QB. and just be great with this offense. >> Um, it's it's it's. if if attainable, yeah, like you know,

Miami with Beck, when you go back and. look at the top 10 preseason, they were. the only team that went that route. Everybody else had their quarterback on. the roster for more than a year. Altmire, you know, reading a thing this. morning about Bimma, he didn't he said. the conversation money never came up. Uh, so you could believe that if you. want to. I have a hard time doing so. Um, but I I think so many teams did it. last year and fell by the wayside, but. then there are examples of success like. Cam Ward at Miami that has an all-time.

season. Uh, so I I think it's what you. have on the roster. I still think the. biggest factor that gets lost is the. player development and and high school. recruits who get lost in the shuffle. here. Agree. So it it it depends what. you have coming back. Uh depending on. what you're going to do at the. quarterback position, Connor. >> Cal Song of Padelli. >> You got the guy. >> He's the one. >> Mhm. >> 6' three. >> So good. Just. >> we need to get him on it. Cal get him. Don't worry. He's coming next year.

>> Uh I don't know, man. They got a GM up. there. They got a lot of money up there, dude. They got a lot of money at Cal. >> Who's their GM? >> Ron Rivera. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Ron Rivera. >> He knows ball. >> Absolutely. He knows ball. >> That's a Super Bowl champion. >> He can see greatness right that song of. Pot telly kid. He's got a 375 GPA. I. looked up uh I looked it up. 375 GPA. 6. foot3. This guy. Okay. And cuz when you. watch him play, it's like this guy's got. to be just all ball. This guy's got to. be a absolute. >> He's thick, too. >> Yeah. >> Can move size. Can move. And he he's.

humble as [ __ ] It's all of it doesn't. really. >> Hawaiian culture. It's. >> Yeah, he's an. >> He throws darts. >> Yes, he and it's fun. >> Yes. >> And he's making he's making guys open. with his throws. The the back shoulder. front shoulder throw that the guy was. anticipating the back shoulder. I think. it was week one. >> Week one. Y. >> And instead he goes he literally drops. it front shoulder on the guy. It's like. that was a [ __ ] 43 yd ball into a. bucket on and that was just like his.

ninth straight completion or whatever to. start his entire college career. It's. like this dude is the this guy's the one. next off season. >> Yes. >> I can't wait till West Virginia goes and. says, >> "No, you got. >> aloha.". >> Yeah. >> Mahalo for everything you're about to do. for our state. You know what I mean? >> It'll be worth it. It'll be worth every. single penny forever. But he is. basically bringing back late night. football on Fridays and Saturdays too. Like I the Pack 12 act after dark is. what it was called. We need to come up. with some new name.

>> Can't snooze. Like you literally can't. snooze when song of politelli is playing. football. It is it is very annoying. Actually Sunday morning's coming. My. daughter does not know that song of. politelli is playing. >> long Sunday too. >> Okay. She's sleeping through it somehow. Okay. I don't know how Mackenzie is. sleeping through song of politelli. playing football right now but she is. And I know that she is gonna wake up and. I'm gonna want to hang out with her. because Sunday is like great morning to. hang out with my daughter. Really the. only one. So I don't want to miss that.

But as I'm watching this guy play, it's. like have to stay up. >> This guy's so good at football. >> Can't miss it. >> Definition of can't miss TV. >> Yes. >> Must watch. >> Yes. >> All right, let's go to the next game. Stanford, Steve, let's have a uh great. college football weekend. They've been. crushing it. College football has been. crushing it. And from from literally. 9:00 a.m. when we hop on TV all the way. till 2 a.m. when Song of Politell is. done killing whoever the hell he's. playing that way. It is. And Cal. schedule they might. >> they can go this they might be in a.

play. They might have a home playoff. game. They could. >> they might have a home play. Anyways, go. ahead Steve. I'm sorry. >> Yeah. Uh 21 ranked Michigan at Nebraska. Uh it's been ugly the last couple times. Last two wins as you see on the screen. Michigan has demolished Nebraska and. Michigan's last night it's over a decade. uh since they lost in Lincoln. It's. who's not a fan of Matt Rule? The. question simply is is it time for Matt. Rule and the Huskers in that great fan.

base. >> How do you feel about it? I think uh I. think Matt Rule has been doing a lot. Okay. Because I think he feels good. about his team. He also has completely. seemingly opened his mind to Nebraska. needs to market what we are. And the. amount of times I see that his facility, his office, their fans, their field, their players through social media, okay, just through social media, I think. has built the name brand back up to. nowhere near maybe what it was at one. point whenever they were in their. heyday, but certainly nationally it has.

become a name that people respect and. are also learning a lot about their. history that maybe didn't know about it. So, shout out to Matt Rule being as open. as he is to do everything in filming as. much [ __ ] and putting it out as he does. and coming on our show every single. Thursday. But they say thirdyear rule is. the one. >> Temple was the one. Baylor was the one. Is it going to be in Nebraska with. another year with that offense with. Ryola uh and Dana Hogerson? Is the. defense, the black shirts going to be. good enough to kind of handle everything. they got up there in Michigan with Bryce. Underwood in a ground and pound offense?

What do you think, Tone? I um if if. Nebraska if they had the 2024 defense. with this offense with the 2025 offense. with secondyear Riola and Dana Hulerson. I think I would take Nebraska in this. one but they gave up 200 rushing yards. to Cincy in week one and that was the. big thing. They lost two huge DTackles. to the NFL this off seasonason. So like. the question was rush defense in the. trenches. How are they going to hold up? And then Michigan looked like [ __ ]. against Oklahoma's defense because of.

the trenches in the run game. They had. the 175 yard run, but other than that, they had like 70 total yards rushing. But what I saw from Cincinnati in that. first game against Nebraska was Sorsby. was running all over the place. They. were running the ball. Like it it just. gives me it gives me some hesitancy on. Nebraska this one. Even though it is. home, they do have the advantage there. Um Biff Pogi is going to be the coach. So there the what I like is that we did. these two games back toback, Illinois, IU, Nebraska, and Michigan.

>> There's the top tier in the Big 10. It's. it's obviously it's Oregon, Penn State, and Ohio State. And then there's that. next tier, and it's those four teams. that I just mentioned, and probably USC. So like these the losers of these two. games this this weekend, like if the Big. 10 wants to get a fourth team in in the. playoff, like the loser of the the. Nebraska, Michigan, IU, Illinois game is. going to have a hard time being that. fourth team. And the winners are going. to have are going to be in the driver's. seat to potentially be that fourth team. with USC. It's a it's a huge weekend for. them. >> Tell me about Bryce Underwood, Steve. Tell me about him.

>> Uh I mean an absolute stallion when you. see him in person. Being on the. sidelines at Oklahoma, I was like, "Holy. hell, he is that big. The arm strength. is ridiculous." I just I just find it. compelling, Pat, that when you see. Underwood at Oklahoma, I get it. Monster. situation, tough road game. They didn't. really pull the trigger. They didn't. really let him throw the ball. Now you. Now Poi's in in involved and head coach. I wonder if there was a conversation. Say, "You know what, son? We're going to.

let you ball out here. We're going to. run you. We're going to let you throw. the ball down the field." Is there a. little change there that could help him. now on this next road start with with. Chiron not there? Was Was he holding. back a little bit? I it's when you watch. it, it's like, all right, this is why he. was the number one guy with all the. tools he brings to the table. And on the. other side, I I I wonder if Nebraska. going to so many two tight end sets now, does that play into Michigan and and how. well they could play defense? I thought.

Oklahoma did a good job of spreading. Michigan out, making guys play in space. Uh Nebraska has gone to a lot of, you. know, tighter sets and and made throwing. lanes, you know, quicker for Riyola. uh. which seems to me that they're not they. don't feel great uh confident in. protecting him. So it it feels like. Michigan has the upper hand. And to. Tone's point, that's what I that's what. I see with Underwood. When you watch. Sorsby in that opening game against. Nebraska, he got loose and Underwood is. way more dynamic than Sorsby. So I I.

totally expect Michigan to use the. quarterback run involved in in what's a. monster monster spot. I was just like in. Tai's fan base rankings. Where does. Nebraska rank? >> They're irrelevant until they until they. >> got right there. There. Yes, man. I saw. it in the movie, Carrie. They're out. there like two hours before the game. starts. They're filling that place up. for a volleyball game. >> I'm not saying they're not a great fan. base. I'm saying in my mind like I'm. never losing any sleep about Nebraska. until, you know, hey, if it's thirdyear. rule and and they and they go this year,

>> but you're saying women's volleyball, you're certainly losing a little sleep. for Nebraska. Uh, I think Iowa's women's. volleyball team [ __ ] stinks. So, I'm. not to be honest. They got a good team. over there. >> I'm not losing a whole lot of sleep. Nebraska's a a [ __ ] powerhouse. So, I'm not losing a whole lot. >> Okay, that's what we're talking about. though. And football team maybe about. back to being a powerhouse. >> We'll see. We'll see. Cuz you know what? >> Is Nebraska about to become the Kings in. the Midwest? >> Ta. You know Nebraska football? >> Well, I mean. >> Oh jeez. >> I don't know. >> Was that I'm too young. I'm too young.

now. That's Governor Jeff Land. >> Governor Jeff Land. >> You don't know what nothing about that, do you? >> Unbelievable. Hey, but back back to this. game. You talked about Underwood looking. different in his offense, using his legs. more. I would love to see him more in a. more spread out offense. I don't want to. see him run the same offense JJ McCarthy. ran at Michigan. But, uh, going into. this game, which quarterback do you. trust more in their respective, uh,

systems? >> Good question. That's a very good question. Uh, as of. right now, you would you would think. Ryola, uh, just for what he's been asked. to do, when you hear Hogerson coming. into this situation, he was blown away. by what was on Ryola's plate last year. as a freshman quarterback and all that. he embraced in trying to get this team. back to relevance. Uh, so he's looked. super comfortable. uh the Cincinnati. game, you know, that they did one of.

those, you know, we're we're like Brian. Kelly said last week against Florida, we. played to win the game, that we were. going to do what we had to to win. We. didn't care about statistics, the whole. thing. And then they get that win. against Cincinnati and then they play. some nobodies and they they run it all. over and throw it all over. So, do they. have an extra, you know, couple tricks. in the bag for Michigan? Because I think. they're going to need them. I think. Michigan really matches up well. Um, so. it it it's kind of I mean obviously. Underwood's feeling is higher to me than. Riola. Uh, but right now trustworthy at. home in this game. I think you got to.

lean Riola. >> All right. >> All right. >> We can't wait for that. What's the uh. what's the last game here we need to. chitchat about. >> Uh, we got a quarterback going back to. where he played last year and that fan. base is waiting for him. That's Auburn. at Oklahoma. Jackson Arnold in new surroundings in. those great Auburn uniforms has looked. good. I they got a really good win uh at. Baylor to start the year. I didn't know. what to expect from that game. Uh and. and Arnold did it with his legs. Uh. designed quarterback runs and he just.

there I I've said it multiple times. Give me a quarterback that could have. succeeded in the circumstance in Norman. last year. The offensive line and the. lack of weapons was just insurmountable. And I thought he was in a no-win. situation. Uh, so I know that fan base. is is jonesing because they obviously. love their guy now more when you talk. about Matier. Um, you know, coming in. and doing what he's done in in the. Saturday Night Prime against Michigan. Uh, but to me, this comes down to. Oklahoma's defense. Uh, we know what. Venal's background is. Um, Mason looks.

like he's going to be suspended for the. first half because of targeting in the. second half against Temple. Uh, but. Oklahoma's defense is real. Uh, this is. this is the best defense Auburn might. face. uh for the future time. Uh I know. they have a tough bunch of road games, but you see the stats. Uh total defense, scoring defense, pass defense. Um. Oklahoma is real. They're at home and. you got to feel like this is a monster. spot. Both these teams have monster. schedules coming up. But again, to that.

Indiana Illinois point, I you know, the. the playoffs the goal, I don't see the. loser of this game being able to make. the playoff. Wonder if you guys agree. I. will argue for Oklahoma all year uh. after what we seen and learned about. them whenever they played in Michigan. Now I know Michigan's not Michigan, but. you think about Aventable's defense. Everybody historically in college. football thinks it's good. Okay, everybody thinks Aventable's defense is. going to be good. I think it has been in. Oklahoma when he's been there. They just. haven't been able to be offense. Matier. and Arbuckle coming to town already. knowing each other and being able to.

have the athletes and the weapons that. they're able to have at this school as. opposed to at Washington State or. anywhere else. >> I believe in Oklahoma in a huge way. That was kind of my messaging to all the. Michigan alums that I was talking to. after this particular game when they. were like we were bamboozled. Everybody. thought they were lied to that were. Michigan fans because they we were told. this was we we paid the most. This is. the we got this. >> We're never going to lose again. >> We're like that's what Michigan fans. were like expecting coming into the. season. I think cuz the high hopes for.

everything and as they should. But I. think they were very bummed out cuz they. thought this was like same old venibable. Oklahoma. Like I can't believe we're. losing to Oklahoma. They're not even in. the conversation of the SEC. It's like I. think this is I think this is Oklahoma. I think this is a new venable Oklahoma. I think this is a very good team. And I. know you're talking about how everybody. will talk about Matier, but the defense. should be chatted. Matier needs to be. talked about as well. does. >> This guy is unbelievable. He's now the. odds on favorite to win the Heisman. And. I can't I can't stress it enough.

>> How much of an advantage is if you need. a new offensive coordinator, >> okay? Or a quarterback, >> just bring them. >> try to bring them together. >> I mean, it has worked for I think it. happened with Bo Knicks whenever he went. to Oregon. It happened with Michael Penn. whenever he went up to Washington and. end up working. >> Pavia, >> uh Diego Pavia, it worked for him. >> Dan Pier Utah, >> uh Dan Pier and his guy, it's the same. one. It's like it feels like you get. such a head start, especially if it's a. one-year type thing that you're trying. to do with quarterback. Go ahead, Steve.

>> Yeah. Uh Pat, I meant to tell you I went. up to Arbuckle before the game on the. sidelines. Just introduced myself, you. know, hey, love what you're doing the. whole thing. And he's just starts. shaking his head. He's like, cuz I don't. think he talked to his dad since, but. he's like, I heard Pat met my dad. Oh. boy. I don't know how that conversation. >> He had a felt kind of nervous. >> Yeah. I wonder he was if he was. wondering what time of day it was when. you met dad like wondering if you know. things were said that maybe shouldn't. >> Oh yeah I knew that about the dad while. I was talking to him.

>> Yeah I I had met I had met this man. before. Okay. I I knew his exact type. whenever he came up to me. Great accent. from Texas. Literally I had my belt. buckle on or whatever. He goes, "Hey. man, I'm something Arbuckle. I forget. his first name." He was like, "I'm. Arbuckle's father, you know." And I'm. like, "Holy hell, your kid's killing it. here, man. Congrats to you. And he goes, >> "Yeah, it's a nice boat poker you got.". It ain't like this one. Nope. >> Picked it up and it was a steer. wrestling. >> It was a steer wrestling champion. Like. he was actual cowboy. He was doing some.

light ranching. And I literally as soon. as I saw I'm like, "Wow, you earned that. one." The whole conversation he had. great I mean he was just like he was a. cowboy. This guy was c I met this man. before and I assume he is. >> great at hammering whiskey. If I had to. guess that it might be, you know, a. little bit of a judgment here casting, but I feel like I've met this type of. human before. There's only a few of them. that are still around out there, but boy. are they a great time. And I wish I. could catch him in the middle of a [ __ ]. talking session because it felt like he.

he was awesome. Yeah. I I'm a big fan of. the Arbuckle Boys. I am. And I also like. that Matar kid. I think Oklahoma's a. perfect place for him. And they're fans. Uh Toby Keith's um. Blindsided Blind Side came in. >> H what's the. >> Oh, what they play now? >> What's the song? Yeah. >> Oh, yeah. >> Oh, what's that song? We We all know the. words of the song, >> right? And they just changed that like. this year, didn't they? It was like. right after last year. Yeah. Right after. Toby Keith died.

>> My daddy, >> my dad served in the yard. on me, too. He still flew a flag out in the yard. until the day that he died. My mama, my. brother, my sister, and me. and the free. Yeah, that whole song. Their entire game day audience sang that. thing through an entire break. Word for. word through an entire, "Holy [ __ ]. we're in America out here. We are out. here." Uh, it was a cool vibes. They.

They are yearning for a great team. Oh. yeah, >> looks like they got him. And Steve, we're lucky and thankful you do this. every week, brother. We'll see you down. in uh Miami. >> Sounds good. >> Coral Gables. >> Oh yeah. >> Mhm. >> Beautiful. >> 175°. >> It's all right. >> Put me in the roster. Is that what it. is? Or the steamer? >> Steamer. >> Put me in a steamer. What do they do. with meat? >> What are you putting meat in when it. sits there for a long? >> Broil it. >> The crock pot. >> Yeah, crockot. Yep. >> Said down in a crock pot down there in.

Miami. Yep. Let's head down to the. crockpot down there. >> Hopefully get a breeze. >> Yeah. Just think of the days that are. coming. You You need to mentally put. yourself in flash freeze Indiana. February when you're down there. >> You're right. >> Remember last time we were in Miami? >> It was cold. >> Yeah, you're right. >> Ice on the roads. >> That's That was Texas. >> That was Texas. You're. >> That was the day after. >> But same same thing though. >> All right, Steve. We'll see you, Donner. We appreciate the hell out of you, man. Ladies and gentlemen, Sanford State.