The Pat McAfee Show Live | Thursday October 9th 2025

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season is kicking off and this weekend. is week seven of the college football. season. We're in the middle of it. Obviously, we're incredibly lucky that. is football season. We are excited for. an NFC East battle tonight on Amazon. Prime. The Eagles fresh off a loss to. the Denver Broncos at home in which they. lost the fourth quarter 18 to nothing in. front of a bunch of Jons in Philadelphia. could not wait to get on a football. field again. Well, good news for you. You only got to wait four days and who. are you playing? The New York Football. Giants in an MFC East battle. The Giants.

getting seven and a half points at home. tonight. And there's a bunch of stats. that have been uh Thursday night. football 7 and a half point spread. divisional this sirriani on Thursdays. dayball on Thursday. There's a lot of. numbers. What I'm finding myself doing. is uh this team right here just got. embarrassed at home. >> We don't think Siri had kibbles and bits. for the boys all week trying to find the. inner dog to potentially blow out and. railroad that New York Giants team. But. then on the other side it's like wait a.

second Jackson Dart Scataboo and the. boys over there's a lot of Moxy. Yeah. >> And if you look at this tail of the tape. now I don't want to put the numbers up. here but you look at the tail of the. tape here. Now this is from team. rankings and obviously uh there's. different variables that go into all the. rankings and who knows if every play and. every stat and what it accounts for. But. pass offense. >> reigning Super Bowl champs 4-1. Philadelphia Eagles 31st. New York. Giants one and four. Laughing stock. Everybody says. >> 18th. >> Russ offense. Well, they had Saquon.

Barkley break a record last year for. most yards gained in the history of. running backs running footballs. >> Mhm. >> They're 25th. Jackson Dart was. scattering the boys. >> 13th. Wow. >> 30th total offense versus 19th total. offense. Well, let's go to the defensive. side. 15th verse 24th. 22nd verse 26. 20th verse 26. But I'll tell you what, none of these rankings are desirable for. either part. No. >> No. But I will say if you were just. blindly look at these rankings, Thursday. Night Football, maybe offense carries. the day. You would think to yourself, wait a. >> hold on now. >> Is the team on the right side of this.

graphic actually. >> the Super Bowl champs, the reigning. champs, are they the team that's four in. one instead of the team that is one and. four? Have Philadelphia Eagles just been. able to slip and slide by with some bad. ball and having a lot of gripes. underneath the lore of winning. Was that. band-aid that was covering up. everybody's happiness and success? Was. that kind of ripped off whenever you. lose against the Broncos? Is AJ Brown, Jaylen Herz, and Saquon Barkley's. two-hour meeting. >> where they said it was jovial. >> Yeah. >> Did that pay off? Or is Jackson Dartton.

Scataboo about to have an era. definfining win? >> Wow. >> On Amazon Prime with Al Michaels, Kirk. Herbstreet, Kaye Hard Tongue, Big. Whitton Fitz, Carissa Thompson, Tony. Gonzalez, and Richard Sherman. celebrating the hell out of another week. of NFL football kicking off. Anything. could happen tonight. >> That's right. That's right. >> Seven and a half point spread. It's been. big for these division games. The talks. the tables here at Boston Connor and at. Ty Schmidt. Sweet hat, Con man. >> Thank you very much. Yeah, >> that looks cool. >> The best. I And it fits like a glove.

Didn't think it would be this, you know, well fitted. Amazing. >> Well, with your hair that you have, you're going to have to have a little. bit bigger hats. You know, there's some. hats that don't have a I would say. they're like a gas station condom, little shallow bod, you know, and then. whenever you get the better hats, you. know, you got a little depth in that. thing. Whenever you got that big hair. like you have right now, you got to have. good depth. And Jack Daniels has the. most depth that I think anybody's ever. had. >> Yeah, especially with the way they. operate. So, that hat looks damn good. Let's go to one HALF OF THE HAMMER. Cowboys AP tone. Okay, so uh Eagles. favored by seven and a half against the.

New York Giants. Right before we went. live, Connor said this about the number. actually. >> Uh touchdown road favorites are 19-4 uh. straight up 14-9 against the spread in. the under is 14-9. >> Okay, so that's Hembo stat of the day in. Connor's eyes. Now, now Hembo sends us. over a a uh a barrage of stats, if you. will, in the morning, and they could be. about absolutely anything, and if he. sees we're talking about something, he'll send it over and he's been an. absolute weapon, but some of these stats. kind of fall by the wayside and don't. get a chance to breeze. So, Connor.

actually is going to start picking out. his favorites. What did you see from. this particular stat here, Con Man? >> Yeah, this one is more so just kind of. the idea of the game tonight. I feel. like Big Mike might come on and, you. know, mention about this type of matchup. once again. and you you would lean, you. know, hey, New York Giants. And then you. think of the outside stuff. Yankees just. lost. New York needs this. Like the. Giants would be the oh, have to go with. them. And then when you look at the. stats, it's like, oh, never mind. Seven. and a half is actually nothing in a game. like this. And one team is coming off a. huge loss. One team is, you know, just.

lost to a quarterback who has literally. never won. Uh, and then especially when. you look at the tail of the tape, you. look at that, it's like, okay. But then. when you look at the last four weeks, Eagles have played Chiefs, Rams, Bucks, Broncos. They've gone three and one over. those weeks. The Giants have played the. Cowboys, Chiefs, Chargers, and Saints. Beat the Chargers. You know, that was. cool. That was the oneame boost. But. then you go down to New Orleans, lay an. egg against, you know, possibly the. worst team in the league. >> Both teams. A lot of motivation, you're.

saying. Lot of motivation. >> Tough roads here for the NFC East, it. sounds like, with their schedule set up. Uh Tone, what are the numbers saying. about the game tonight? Okay, so let's. go back a little bit. Uh I believe it. was Monday or Tuesday, I talked about. how now on the season, if uh the public. is 60% or more on a certain side, they. are 13 and 30 against the spread. >> Tonight, 65% of the public is on the. Philadelphia Eagles. >> Now, that would contradict the. >> this stat and that stat,

>> which which stats tend to do. Um, but. but no, I mean, if you're looking at. strictly just off of percentage and and. and betting that way, it's that number. If you look at off of historic on. Thursday night, it's that number. If you. look at a historic New York Giants on. Thursday night, they've lost 10 in a. row, which was which is horrendous. >> And then Bet Lab Sports puts out a a. tweet that says Jaylen Herz is just one. eight and one against the spread in his. last 10 games as a seven-point favorite. I mean, >> you can pick and choose anywhere you. want. Um, when I looked at the tail tape. though, it kind of gave me some PTSD.

Um, as a Steelers fan, a lot of the. people in here were like, "Oh, you guys. are you guys are going to win the AFC. North. You guys have this record. So, this record." We know when we watch and. we look at the stats if it's not good or. not. And that's why the John's have been. so pissed off so far at Pulo to start. this season cuz look at those offensive. stats. They are shite, but they are. still winning games. So, they're still. the Super Bowl champs and they're. Eagles. So, there's a lot to be. determined. >> You're saying football towns have seen. football. They've seen good football. They've seen bad football. So, yeah, we. might be winning. This team ain't. winning [ __ ] is what some people feel at.

certain parts of the season. Steelers. fans have obviously felt that over the. last. >> uh seven, eight years as they've. continued to be above 500 but not be. great. Philadelphia Eagles 4 in one. What a They're tied for a league lead. >> Yeah. >> And then you look at their rank, it's. like they can get so much better. They. can get so so so much better. We'll. continue to dive in to this game. tonight. Uh we have Al Michaels joining. us in about 33 minutes or so. Can't wait. to catch up with the icon, the legend, Coach Mike McCarthy, Super Bowl. champion. He'll be joining us. He knows. a little something about the NC.

>> Yeah, I say so. >> And then uh Jack Carr will BE JOINING. US. >> WOW. >> JACK CARD. >> YEAH, JACK CARD, THE AUTHOR. YEAH, he's. got a new book called Cry Havoc. It's. the eighth installment, I do believe. Uh. he is an absolute beast. He uh former. Navy Seal sniper who has become an. author and his books are fiction. >> Correct. Uh, so there are stories, you. know, but boy do they have a lot of. things that, uh, if you think about who. the author is, Navy Seal sniper, like 20. years in it. Uh, and also I think he was.

a trainer at Buds and everything like. that for the Navy Seal. And then he's. writing it. It's like, well, this guy. has a reason he's saying these things. And then he's actually got caught up in. some [ __ ] with the government having. like clear and these are all fake. These. are all, you know, stories that he's. got. This one is based in Vietnam, I. believe. >> Yeah. 1968. Uh, Daang. I think a good. majority of it takes place during the. Vietnam War. >> and uh it'll be good. >> Oh yeah. Maybe. >> and they will turn this somewhere into a. TV series or a movie or a documentary. and uh it'll be phenomenal and we can't.

wait for Jack Car. Every time Jack comes. here something happens. >> I know. It's crazy. It's almost like you. know eerie stuff follows him. >> Thank goodness he's here though. Good. timing. >> Yeah. Every time he saved the world now. three times for us. >> Yeah. Exactly. Three years in a row. >> Thank God. Yeah. I hope everything goes. It'll be the first time he's come here. and everything just goes. >> He's like a real life Ethan Hunt. >> And maybe that's just everywhere he. goes. We don't even realize. We just. only see him whenever he's here. Saving. the world. And we broadcast it to. everybody. We say, "Look, we caught this. on camera. Jack save." He shot uh.

>> AI in the head. Arthurial. >> Yeah. Arthur Isaac Fishell in the head. right here in the Thunderdome during a. meeting of the minds. Uh literally a. meeting of the minds. And they shot down. a drone that was coming in. >> An energy weapon that was coming in. >> I hope everything works out well. All. right, let's pivot away from Jack Carr. Let's pivot away from Cry Havoc. Let's. pivot away from tonight's NFC East. battle between the Giants and the. Eagles. Both teams looking to get back. on track. One of them's four- one, one. of them's one and four. >> One of them hasn't played nowhere near. their best ball and have won a lot of. games. And the other one's trying to.

figure out what the hell their best ball. is. >> Yeah, >> it's intriguing matchup. Seven and a. half point spread. We'll talk about that. in a moment. Let's talk about some. breaking news, ladies and gentlemen. Joining us now is senior NBA insider for. ESPN, friend of the program, and a man. who I believe had something just cross. his phone, ladies and gentlemen, Sean. Shirano. >> Sean, great to see you. You look. amazing. Thank you for joining us. >> Great seeing you. And as as much as I'd. love to say how much I miss you, uh we. do have some news. USA basketball is.

expected to name Eric Spolster as the. next men's national team head coach, sources tell me. And so Spolster now. succeeds Steve Kerr as the head coach. He'll be on the World Cup sideline in. 2027 and then the summer Olympics in Los. Angeles in 2028. Grant Hill, the NBA. legend, he's actually managing director. of team USA basketball. And he really. narrowed on Eric Spolster this entire. year ever since Spolster served as the. lead assistant on Steve Kerr staff. And.

so what we've seen is an infrastructure, a cycle. Greg Papovich was the coach of. the Tokyo Olympics uh several years ago. Steve Kerr was on his staff. He replaces. Greg Papovich. This next cycle, Spolster. was on Steve Kerr staff replaces and now. he's going to have a a cycle here. And I. wouldn't be surprised if it's going to. be multiple cycles here for Eric. Spolstra. The job he's done as an NBA. coach, the job that he did on the. international level, he really impressed. a lot of the players, a lot of the Team. USA officials in the last Olympics. And.

it's crazy how young he looks. He's. actually the longest tenur active NBA. head coach. So, he will be the next Team. USA men's basketball head coach. >> Congrats, Smoke. >> That's awesome. Okay, so we got the. World Cup. We obviously have the. Olympics. What else is the head coach of. the men's national team in charge of? What other things are they setting the. tone for all of USA men's basketball and. scouting, recruiting, all that type of. stuff for future generations? What added. jobs here other than just this World Cup.

and Olympics that we all see does Spo. pick up now that he's the head of USA. basketball, the greatest country on. earth, the greatest basketball history. on earth in a time where it feels like. the world's getting good. >> Yeah, >> the world's getting really good right. now at hoops. So, Spo is going to have. to manage that uh as we go forward. But. what other jobs does he have other than. the big tournaments that we see? >> Pat, it's going to be the the culture of. the team, the environment, the structure. that he's going to implement first and. foremost. And then as time goes on, the. years go on as we get closer to the 2027.

World Cup and then the 2028 Summer. Olympics, it's being involved with Grant. Hill, the rest of the USA basketball. officials on figuring out who's going to. be on these rosters. You think about how. talented of a group that 2028 squad is. going to be. It could also be a younger. group. Steph Curry, LeBron James, they. were very vocal uh privately, a little. bit publicly that they wanted to have. one final USA basketball run. So, this. is it for them. Kevin Durant has kind of. left the door open. We'll see where he's. at in 2028, but this is going to be a.

really new team. This is going to be a. young team that we're going to see. It's. going to be led by different players. So, being a part of that and then the. next step is also setting his own. coaching staff. And so, you think about. Steve Kerr's coaching staff. He had uh. Eric Spolstra, Ty Louu, Mark F, the the. the the iconic college coach at Gonzaga. So, uh Tyoo will not be on Eric Spolster. staff from what I'm told. Uh so Eric. Wilson is going to have a new staff uh. as he takes over as the USA basketball.

coach. >> Is there a chance that maybe Missoula. gets on there so Tatum can play? >> Yeah, >> that that's a name certainly you have to. look at. But when you think around the. league, whether it's a Joe Missoula, Mark Dagen in Oklahoma City, uh Jamal. Mosley is another coach in Orlando who. has had some time uh in the USA. basketball pipeline and he's someone you. think about that Orlando team on the. come up. They should have a good chance. in the Eastern Conference as well. So, I. I think those are some of the, you know, I think you have to put Missoula uh in. there as well, but I I I think th those.

are the other couple names that I would. look at as well. >> Well, strictly so that maybe Tatum gets. on court maybe because I I think for the. good of America, even though we won, so. hey, we but going forward, we need to. make sure that Tatum is on the court, assuming that his Achilles recovery goes. very well, which are we ahead of. schedule in that. Am I reading things. that we're we're in a really good spot? No, I don't want to put any type of uh I. think any recovery or rehab is its own. journey. There's so many things that can. happen during it, especially when you're. talking about an Achilles heel. Uh but.

when we're talking about Tatum, I get. from what we've been reading, good. signs, right, going forward. And I think. he even came out and said, "Everybody. else said that I'm not playing this. season." I I I've never said that. Which. was wild to hear because it's just kind. of understood almost at this point in. basketball with the Achilles. So Pat, you think about the three players, the. three superstar players that tore their. Achilles tendon in the playoffs. Damen. Lillard, he's now in Portland. He's. already said he's done he's not going to. play this upcoming season. The Blazers. have already ruled him out for the. entire season. The other player, Tyresese Hallebertton, your guy, um he's.

already been ruled out by the Pacers for. the entire season. He's said himself. he's out for the season. So those two. guys suffered Achilles tears. They've. already been ruled out. Jason Tatum on. the other hand, the Celtics have not. ruled him out. I I think the Celtics are. are are are cautiously optimistic. Clearly Jason Tatum has a goal in his. mind that he wants to play. Now whether. he can get there by the time we're in. February, March, April, we'll see. And. we'll see how that team is going to be. There's so many doctor's clearances that. come into play here, Pat, as we as you.

get closer to the end. And let's say. he's in March and he's feeling 100%, but. the team's not really competing for. anything. Do you really throw him out. there? There's going to be a lot of. questions. There's probably going to be. 15 to 20 people in that room that are. going to make that decision for Jason, you know, with Jason Tatum, I would say. Uh, you know, while the other two are. are out for the season, though. So, that. is a saving grace. And Jason Tatum, I. saw that video as well, like the rest of. the world a couple weeks ago. He is. moving differently than anyone that I've. seen. Uh, what do we several, you know,

four or five months to remove? >> I saw Tyrese walking a red carpet. So, let's just I saw that, too. >> That Russell Palooa I he actually came. with me. We got right in there as close. as possible so you didn't have to walk. as far. That's why. >> he cutting. Was he cutting? Was he was. he. >> cutting up? Yeah. Always got jokes. Always let the jokes fly like he lets. game winners fly. We're going to miss. him. Maybe coach Carlau, another name. that we need to float into the universe. to be coaching team USA. Would love to. see him experience the Olympics and how. he does would be spectacular. Uh you.

just broke some news the other day uh. early in the morning on the internet. Go. ahead, con man. >> Yeah, Sean. The Knicks were the team. Giannis wanted to go to. Uh, was there. any trades that were kind of basically. about to be made? Was it ever that. close? Was there any packages discussed. or is this just more [ __ ] basketball. news about stuff that almost happened. that didn't? >> I I I think the two things that happened. here that have never happened with. Jiannis Jacmpo. one, he made clear uh. privately to the people that needed to.

know that the New York Knicks were the. only team that he wanted a potential. trade to if the Milwaukee Bucks would. oblige. Now, that's the big if. The. Bucks have made it clear they want to. give this another shot with Giannis into. DMPO, they feel like with Giannis there, this team has a championship. opportunity. And there there were a. series of meetings over the offseason, but there was one in particular. It was. one in late June. John Horse, the Bucks. general manager, I'm told he flew to. Greece. It was a one-day trip, 6,000. miles. He went and sat down with Giannis.

and Doupo. He sold Giannis on why this. team is a championship caliber team. Giannis had his concerns about whether. he thought this team could actually win. a championship. So, you have a team that. feels like this is a title contending. roster, a player that shared and aired. out his uneasiness about it. And so that. led to some conversations with the. Knicks. The Knicks did make offers, I'm. told, uh, multiple offers. And so no. deal happened. The Knicks felt like the. Bucks were never serious. Some people in.

Milwaukee believe that the Knicks never. made offers serious enough to even. continue trade conversations. This was a. multi-week process. One person described. it to me as an exclusive negotiating. window. We've never gotten to that point. with Giannis. >> But there was a bunch of nothing. Yeah, it was a bunch of [ __ ] He He's. there now. We'll see what happens this. season. The quarter mark of the year is. going to be very important. 2025 games. in. And Jono said it himself that right. now he's committed. He's locked in. He. said, "Six, seven months from now, I.

don't know where I'll be. We'll see.". >> Okay. So, Shams, I appreciate that. you're planting these seeds right now. Okay. That's what Shams is doing right. now. >> Oh, yeah. >> Hey, I got big breaking news. We saw it. across the internet. Yiannis, you know, Baba, he's planting seeds right now. just in case something happens in the. future, he can just say, "Hey, just like. we were telling you about, there is. something brewing here, okay? And that b. uh bamboo tree, you know, you you you. water it for like 5 years, okay? You. water that thing and then inevitably. that thing." Okay? But. >> you're just a messenger. I'm just a. messenger. If this stuff wasn't.

happening, I wouldn't have anything to. talk about. >> No, but that's what I'm saying to you. I'm saying I'm saying you're watering. this this plant right now like it's B. And then whenever it happens, people. better say. >> Sean said it would. Yeah. >> Okay. And that's uh part of the insider. process is following stories, you know, and then every once in a while one pops. up out of the middle of the night right. after a Royal Rumble in Indianapolis and. Luca is now all of a sudden the LA. Laker. >> Wow. >> And that it becomes historic and. everybody thought your phone was hacked. So Shams, we appreciate the way you. operate, the way you move, and the way. you cover the NBA. You're the greatest.

When do we start? When's when's. Basketball's happening? >> Preseason is well underway. The Pacers. actually played the other night against. the Timberwolves. It is well underway. How'd we do? >> Regular season starts October 21st. Houston at Oklahoma City, then Warriors, Lakers, double header. NBC has that. And. then ESPN has multiple double headers. after that. So that is opening week. But. Pat, I'm telling you, preseason is. underway and this Giannis and the Dumpo. situation. This is what's going to grip.

the league to start the year. Uh, take. my word for it. >> Water in that bamboo tree. >> That's right. Is Guangho coming up to. Indie to play after the Spurs game? >> Who's that? >> The Guangjo Sharks. I forget actually. what their mascot is, but they were they. were torn. The Spurs beat him the other. day. I think one of the CBA teams. >> Oh, that's um so that's what presipo's. on that team. Olipo is playing for that. team. He's trying to make a comeback. after two years away from basketball. Really? Victor Olipo. >> Yeah. Shout out Indiana University. Great. Victor Olipo. He's playing for. the Guangho. >> The the Guanghou.

Lions, I think. >> Yeah, Lions. You said a different team. That's a vastly different team than we. were. Uh anyways, we appreciate you so. much. How'd the Pacers do the other day? Did we do good? >> Uh the the Pacers lost to Minnesota. I. don't know what happened uh exactly in. the second game. >> He did just sign Campaign though. Shout. out campaign. He just signed a training. camp deal with the Pacers. >> I just saw. >> some breaking news from preseason. Let's. keep him out of preseason. We don't need. him. >> Keith McConnell did have a uh he did.

look like he's he strained a muscle. there. >> Holy [ __ ] So. >> because he was going% he was on a. basketball. >> Everybody needs to stop. >> TJ McConnell doesn't need to play. preseason. >> No. >> Coach Carlile said, "Hey, listen. This. is your team now. We do not need any. injuries to TJ McConnell.". >> That guy's going to be playing 45. minutes a night this year. >> Maybe. Maybe the whole thing. >> Exactly. >> We're not He might be Max Crosby. >> He could be. >> How's Tyrese doing? Do we have an. update? How's he feeling? How's he. doing? >> I think his life right now is rehab, recovery, finding things in Indiana to.

do. >> Yes. >> That is so he doesn't lose his mind. So. he is always on it I think and uh. mindset very positive and obviously the. city of Indianapolis loves seeing him. He's at he he was at every fever game. obviously the Colts game if there's a. charity event that he can get to he'll. go I mean he is trying to stay active. without losing his mind because he's. been confined to his house basically. since this whole thing happened. So he. he's positive. I'd say he is naturally a. optimistic positive dog human and it. feels like he's carrying that into this. That's a long road, brother. Cuz it's.

such a slow road cuz he's able to walk, you know? He gets out of the boot and. you can walk and then it's like, "Hey, you're nowhere near done right now.". Yeah. And it's like it's a mental task. That's why the Tatum stuff is awesome to. hear, you know? >> Yeah. I mean, these are long recoveries, but once you start walking and you start. being able to move even a little bit on. the basketball court, just as a. basketball player, I'm sure their mind. is going crazy. Like, you want to be. doing stuff at 100%, but you just can't. You got to It's It's a long monotonous. recovery. And then hey, you got another. seven months actually. Yeah, you're just.

going to be staring at it. You can't. move the whole time. >> And like half the time the it takes a. year. Like I like everyone's talking. about Tatum coming back and awesome. That would be cool. But it feels like it. even takes a year just for guys to get. their legs back under him and then. they're back to what. >> at least a year even a second year. afterwards it comes in for our sport at. least. And then Tyrese, it takes a year. When was his? Oh, the last possible game. of the season. Game seven of the final. The the latest possible game. And he was. going to score 60. I know. No time for. what ifs. No time for whatifs. Huge news.

around the basketball world. Obviously, this was tweeted by Sheffer this. morning. Uh, inside the NBA is making. its official uh broadcast debut over on. the ESPN network. Says TNT Sports will. still create that from Atlanta and it'll. be licensed through ESPN, who got a. majority of the NBA coverage rights. Uh, remember TNT could have kept it. >> Yes. >> Okay. >> Yes, they could have. >> Everybody's attacking everybody, but. there's still a way that that could have. happened. instead ESPN gets to broadcast. one of the greatest shows in the history. of sport. Uh Shams, have you met these.

guys? >> Yeah, I mean I've spent time with. Turner. I've done stuff with Shaq, does. stuff with Kenny. Know Kenny pretty. well. Uh talked to Ernie every time we. see each other. I mean these are just. great human beings. Chuck is hilarious. Um, I I actually was a part of the 75. greatest players draft that Turner held. Uh, couple I want to say it was 2022 or. 2023, but uh the the All-Star game was. in Cleveland, I believe, that year. >> Nailed it.

>> Uh, but it was it was a treat just being. a part of that stage. Uh, Jerry West was. there. So, it was it was just a honor to. be there and uh those four guys I got to. talk to at length and uh you know it's. it's going to be amazing to continue to. see that show uh now on ESPN our. airwaves. >> Yeah, it's great honestly that it's. going to continue, you know, this many. years into it. Their resume is like. greatest show of all time. How many more. Emmys can you win? How much more can you. impact a sport in a league and help. build it and everything like that? And.

then for it to continue, I think we're. all very lucky and thankful. I don't. know how current players feel, you know, not at all. But need that. They're like. the uh they're how many NBA teams? >> 30. >> 30. >> Okay. So, they're like the 31st NBA. team. >> Yeah. >> And uh they were on prime time every. single night and there there's good. reason. So, I appreciate the fact that. we're still getting them into our lives. and I can't wait to watch and I do. appreciate everybody saying ESPN's going. to ruin. TNT is still producing it. Yeah. Which I respect and appreciate. that. >> those guys aren't changing. We're going. to see the personality. All those guys I.

think I think they're going to bring the. heat. I think they're gonna be as feisty. as ever. And shout out to Ernie Johnson. Like you, people like you, Ernie, just. amazing interviewers. >> No, don't even [ __ ] with me. Ernie's. one of the best. >> No, that's disgusting. People are going. to be very mad that I was even in that. sentence. And also, the Pacers beat the. Minnesota Timberwolves. So, you need to. >> wake up. Okay, Shams. Okay. And that was with TJ. McCl. You asked me when the season starts. The. season starts October 21st week. All.

right. the season. >> Ladies and gentlemen, Sean Shan, you're. the man. >> That was awesome. >> Those pregame shows like I'm think. Jordan's on the opening night, right? Pe. like and then the and then Prime has. like Dirk Nitzky and all of a sudden I'm. thinking of all those shows. Vince. Carter's on one of them. >> I think Legends Everywhere. >> Yeah. All All three of them have. unbelievable studio shows now. I mean, we'll see obviously, you know, how good. they are cuz they haven't done it. together yet, but like the people they. have is crazy. Maybe Shams needs to go.

start shaking some hands down there at. the inside the NBA offices. >> Sounds like he needs to. >> Yeah. Why didn't he become their. insider? >> Something to think about. >> It make more sense. >> Yeah. I mean, he's it's going to be on. ESPN. He's ESPN senior insider. >> Mhm. >> I think they would love I mean, to do. what we do to Sean. >> Yeah, I think so. >> They would certainly love. >> Is he going to be on the show? >> I don't know. We'll see. He was waiting. in the bullpen. I thought. >> there's no other insiders, right? Yeah, but I I think uh yeah, we want your. info. We want your opinion.

>> Oh, yeah. I agree. Both. >> I think it's what people were saying. I. think there was a little bit of that. maybe at the beginning. >> That's what they say about Seams, too. >> No, you who says that. >> Toxic table. >> I've never said that. >> Excuse me. >> Not once have I said that. >> Well, I think that is like a natural. feeling by some TV executive that went. to school at Syracuse or Northwestern or. something, has never actually been on. camera, never done anything or created. anything in their absolute life. They. naturally have that opinion. Insiders. have this job. We don't need you to do. this. You this. You're not wo either.

>> Don't even think about being woo. >> You're never gonna be woo kid. >> He's probably had that said to him a. hundred times. >> No, but they didn't say it actually. >> They were saying it in here. And then. they were saying we don't need you on. the show tonight, kid. That's what they. were that's what they was only your. information is what they were actually. saying in there. So Shams has just sat. in the pocket, battled, broke the. biggest story in the history basically. of internet uh news breaking. Yeah. >> And just kept it rolling. Shams is the. best dude. We are very lucky that we. were friends with Shams. >> Yeah. Super great guy, too. Off. Yeah.

When he comes to Indie during the Pacers. run, too. And it's hilarious thinking. about Tom's job just cuz then he does. break news like Giannis and we're like, "No, that that's nothing. That's. nothing." So. >> the Giannis one we say no to. But. whenever Luca uh gets traded, everybody. goes, "That's fake. There's no way. Sham's here. Seams got hacked. You're. just saying dumb [ __ ] right there. And. then it's like, no, actually me. That's. real. I was surprised as well. I had to. get my hands. Oh my god. Oh my god. How. long am I going to be the only person. that has this? Six minutes, maybe. Oh.

my. I got to get it right. What are. they? >> Are we sure? Yeah. >> This one's going to do some numbers. here, I think. >> Yeah. Might be the biggest ever. >> Does he have a dog? >> Yeah. >> Anybody. screenshot send to somebody? This is. what I'm send. Is this actually what's. happening? >> Send. >> said. >> big huge. That's life of an insider. Uh. this is the tweet now. 109.9 million. views at this point.

>> Jesus Christ. >> That's. >> that is massive. >> Let alone how many times that's just. ripped and then posted and according to. Sean boom this happens. Bang the boom. boom. We don't know how internet. platforms work and how things get taken. and run with. And that's that's. unbelievable that this particular post. has 110 million views. That's. unbelievable. Also, is it sustainable? Good luck, Sean. >> Good luck. Keep it up, Sean. Top that. >> That bamboo tree he's been working with. It's that bamboo tree. Uh huge. There's. been a lot of trades, >> a lot of action.

>> kind of happened around the NFL. Albert. Brier broke down the most recent one in. beautiful fashion talking about people. finding good fits. Jags and the Browns. make a trade overnight. Uh, Jags get. Greg Nuome, a corner who uh in Albert. Brier's breakdown uh has great eyes on. QB reading reacting and suited for their. zone heavy scheme down there in Duvall. Also, he's in a contract year. So, Newsome gives him a little financial. flexibility not only this year but for. the future and maybe they renegotiate a. deal here in a couple of weeks if he. ends up doing great. And then Tyson.

Campbell, he goes up to the Browns. He's. bare scheme fit with the team he's. going, you know, he's man match corner. with speed, length, and competitiveness. He signed through 2027. So, a little bit. of stability at a position. They're. obviously going to hope that he hits. I. like the teams are making kind of moves. right now. We're getting into the part. of the year where people are starting to. kind of move and shake. Obviously, Joe. Flacco going to the Bengals. There's. news coming out of Cincinnati. >> Yeah, Joey Flack is back to take on the. Pack J. Now, he just got traded on what. a Tuesday. And uh we're getting word on.

Wednesday that Joey Flack is expect Yep. Hey, Flack Flack starting. Okay. You've. seen where we've been. We ain't doing. that again. You think we brought that. guy down from Cleveland to have him sit. here and watch what we've been doing? Yeah, right. This season's slipping. away. So, we got Joe Flacco walking. across city streets onto a practice. field to be the leader we need over here. in Cincinnati. We got weapons all over. the place. And if our defense can maybe. do something, our offensive line can. maybe protect for a second and a half. >> Wow. >> Maybe Joey Flax able to cook the Packers.

for the second time this season. Ty, this is nightmare scenario for you. And. did you hear what Chase Brown had to say. about Joe Flacco? Chase Brown, running. back for the Cincinnati Bengals. Last. year, he had like,300 yards and 11. touchdowns. Can certainly catch the ball. out of the back field. This is what he. had to say about Joey Flacco's brain. immediately upon arrival in Cincinnati. >> Hearing them first and repeating them. >> Yeah. Yeah. So, Zach would like read him. a play and then he'll like pause for a. second and then he would recite the. whole play like perfectly. So,

>> good memory. Joey Flex saying it back. No problem. Day one, he knows the offense. You know. what that means? Not only does he know. the lingo, he knows the terms. He also. knows the checks. He knows where we're. supposed to go. He knows the right play. they're supposed to be. And that's why. whenever he went to Cleveland, middle of. the season, out of the couch, off the. couch, he knew Stfansky's offense inside. and out. Was able to take them on a. playoff run out of not playing football. at all. Everybody remembers the Jets, okay? It didn't go good. Everybody. thinks about the Colts last year, okay? It didn't go good. But if Joe Flacco is. in a situation that he likes, which very.

clearly from day one sounds like he's in. love with it, look out for the Bengals. to be a problem in the AFC North, or a. problem this weekend with the Joey. Flacco boost that's potentially come to. town. >> Yeah, no [ __ ] Joe Flacco knows the. playbook, knows how to spit the playback. out. He's been quarterback in the NFL. for about 25 years. He's won a Super. Bowl MVP. He's actually he's pretty good. quarterback. He's a little older now. But yeah, I mean, if you're a Packers. fan, you knew this was going to happen. You know, I I had that reaction on. Tuesday and everyone's like, "What are. you, [ __ ] He's not going to play on.

Sunday." It's like, "Yeah, he is. Uh. he's Joe Flacco. He does he needs he. needs 15 minutes off the couch to get. ready to play a football game." We've. seen it before. Now, I did see Jake. Browning was pretty redassed. Uh. figuring out that Yeah. He's basically. saying like, you know, I don't think I. was the the entire part of the problem, but you know, I understand Joe Flacco. getting getting in there and playing. But yeah, I mean, you know, we'll see. because I think if the Bengals are going. to win, Joe Flacco is going to have to. throw for 350 yards, which he might do.

But if the Bengals beat the Packers on. Sunday, there is a good chance I'm going. to take a bath. >> What? >> I'm going to head upstairs, bring a toaster, plug it in, and drop it. in the bath. >> No. >> If Joe Flacco beats the Packers again, I. just I don't know if I got the He's the. He is familiar with the defense. >> You can't be doing that. No, he threw. for 104 yards. He did. >> in that first game and obviously he made. a lot of good decisions for the Browns. He was very efficient and that goes to. the Cleveland Browns. Let's talk about. the Cleveland Browns. Uh.

>> Stfansky has not come out publicly and. said definitively who the backup. quarterback is. >> Uh oh. >> Is it Zip on a ball Zappy Bailey who's. been around New England then he was at. the Raiders now obviously with. Cleveland. He was the practice squad. quarterback I do believe for them or the. fourth eligible whatever the hell the. ruling is. And then Shador Sanders. obviously fifth round pick. He has been. the third string quarterback throughout. the year when Joey Flacco was the first. string and then Dylan Gabriel got his. first start in England this past weekend. uh was the second string. And now.

Stfansky is not just coming out and. saying that Shador is the definitively. the backup quarterback. What's that all. about? What is that all about? Well, I. have a theory and listen, it might be. because he's anti-Shadur and maybe. Shadur needs to go and find another home. at another NFL team. I don't know how. that would happen because they have his. contract and his rights, but maybe. another place would be good for him. But. also, maybe Stfansky's thinking we're. playing the Pittsburgh Steelers. >> Pittsburgh Steelers got TJ Watt, Cam.

Hayward, Her Big. They got a lot of dogs. across the front. Yeah, >> we got a rookie quarterback who by all. accounts looks like he's very. comfortable in an NFL system and on an. NFL field and there's a chance that he. goes on to become the greatest. quarterback of all time or one of the. greatest quarterbacks of all time. I'm. not saying that. But also 5'11 TJ Watt. eating Cam Hayward eating. There's a. chance backup quarterback has to play. this weekend against Pittsburgh. Steelers. I'm not saying that is. something I'm wishing for or hoping for. I'm just saying fact of the matter.

reality. AFC North football, Cleveland. Browns, Pittsburgh Steelers, the way the. Steelers are built, there's a chance. backup quarterback has to play. There's. a lot of big book on Bailey Zappy. Okay, people have seen Bailey Zappy play a lot. of Mike Tomlin knows what he's. potentially getting with Bailey Zappy or. digging into the Browns to understand. what Bailey Zappy's got. So, I think. there's a chance that he's being kind of. >> uh aloof with it koi with it. Uh maybe. out of strategy purposes. >> No, coaches don't do that. Coaches. always are upfront and give the utmost. information to their opponent the week. before the game. They've always done.

that in the history of football. So. there's no reason why Stfansky wouldn't. say who the second string quarterback. is. >> So now Tom, >> unless he hates Shadurk, >> well, >> which they drafted him and you know, who. knows if they hate him and that's why. they hate drafted him. Maybe I'm not. 100% sure, but there is a chance that. they do want the Pittsburgh Steelers to. prepare for three quarterbacks. Like, hey, you're going to have to prepare for. three quarterbacks. That's an added. amount of stuff that you have to look. into. That's an added amount of things. you got to think about. It's just even. if it's four or five plays that you got. to add to the uh itinerary for practice.

or the script for practice, that's [ __ ]. that you're not thinking about something. else. Miles Garrett for instance, you're. not thinking about any of the other. Dylan Gabriel stuff. You're have. thinking about other things. So maybe. there is a chance that this is. strategery here by Stfansky to not just. give up who his backup quarterback is. But then also we're in a world of. everybody knows everything about. everything. So is this a waste of time. if this is a little bit of a a koi. competitive move by Stfansky? Well, and. even based on last week, you know, Judkins seems to be the bellcow of that. offense kind of everything. I think he.

got, you know, 25 28 touches and, you. know, he was great. Uh, you wonder if. they're viewing this like a Kurt Cousins. RG3 situation. Like maybe they like them. both and they think they both could. play, but if Shadore's the backup and. Gabriel goes down and Shador goes in and. does really well, can you ever go back. to Gabriel? Like if it's Zappy and you. know Gabriel gets heard and then. >> well then that would be exactly why. everybody would be pissed. >> Yeah. >> About the being koi about Shador not. being named backup. You don't want him. to succeed is what people potentially.

are thinking. And I would like to say. I'm a Shador Sanders fan. >> You can call me a Shador Fanders. There. you go. I am a big fan. And I just saw. him working out with sunglasses on with. a bunch of Cleveland stuff on. I don't. know if that was from the summer or from. this week. He looks good. I appreciated. the way he handled the Joe Flacco trade. whenever he was at the car dealership. with 8K cameras around him. The mimming. thing I thought was incredibly creative. and hilarious, but I could also see it. as something that, hey, don't want to. act like that as a starting quarterback. going forward just strictly because it's. not about how I feel or my fans feel.

about things. It's about decision makers. in the NFL. If I want to actually do. this, I'm going to have to appease to. these people at some point. I'm going to. have to do that at some point, but I. also got to remain myself because. Shadore has done great things for. Shadore. And what we've seen Shador do. at places where there hasn't been as. much support and there hasn't been as. much talent. We've seen him do special. things. He has a aura about him that is. magnetic for people and for cameras. Okay. So, that's obviously a potential. big-time distraction, but all you need. is one team to say we like them. You. know, that's all you really need. That. one team allegedly was just the.

Cleveland Browns. Then the story came. out like, well, during the draft Ravens. wanted like. >> no, they're starting their back probably. again this week. >> Yeah. And obviously you can't forecast. that, but a lot of other people around. the NFL could say, "So he's turning down. opportunities to get into the NFL. whenever he was in a first." That's how. people that are negative would spin. that. And then positive people could. potentially say he want to go to a place. where he get on field, which we. appreciate and respect. And it's like, well, now that this is happening, will. he get on field?

>> Yeah. Um, and if you're a true Steelers. fan, everyone's got it in their back of. their head right now. You might have to. save a reservation for two for that. bath. Nick, what is the uh the worst. possibility for Sunday uh in that Browns. and Steelers game? >> Uh you see Dylan Gabriel get hurt, which. would be unfortunate. We never wish. injuries on anybody. We actually hope to. end all injuries uh in sports, but uh. Amen. >> And then Shadore comes in and carves him. up. >> Yep. >> Oh, >> for 250, three touchdowns. Yep. >> 247.

>> I don't know if he was kidding. >> 247 three touch. Jerry Judy just all. over the place. Yeah.Oop. >> Right after the game, I'll knock on. Tai's door. Hey, coming in. >> Let's do this together. You guys going. to hold hands? You had bye-week last. week together. >> Yeah, exactly. >> This week, you guys kind of hold hands. and jump in there. Okay. Well, we would. miss you certainly, but uh Shador, I. think. >> has handled things in the best possible. fashion. The mind thing people hold. against him, but it's like he's still. very young and that quarterback room, he. has not turned his back publicly on any.

of them, and they haven't done that to. him at all. Right. It's like that's a. tough situation. They're managing it. Good luck. But let's hold out hope that. Stfansky, former coach of the year, is. potentially using a little strategy. here. >> Why I mean, why would he? If he doesn't. have to make a decision on this now, why. would he like why why not wait until you. actually have to decide? I mean, it's. gamesmanship. This is a division game. >> Yeah, it's a big deal. Especially if you. can add just a little bit of a question. mark on the other side and have them. have to focus on that just for a matter. of moments, even hours maybe. That's a. big win for a team. Speaking of a big.

win for a team, >> did you see last night? >> Oh no. >> The Yankees lose. >> Oh my. >> You talk about a postgame show being. electrifying. I didn't even think about. Big Poppy on a microphone after Big. Vlatty THE YANKEE DADDY GETS A CHANCE TO. DO A LIVE interview from the locker room. with beer flowing everywhere. and Vlatty. coming off maybe the greatest series. anybody has had against the New York.

Yankees. This is immediately after the. Toronto boys knock off the New York. boys. >> Let's go, baby. Let's go. >> Hey. Hey, let's do it again. Junk is losing.

>> Lose. Let's go, baby. >> But you don't take it personal. I. >> One more. One more. One more. Lulu. >> Oh my god. >> I don't think there's anything else left. to be said live. You are awesome. We'll. see you in the next round. Go enjoy it. All right. Gracias. So, we understood that. Uh, obviously, what a moment for those two.

to have. Uh, Ty, how did we get to that. point? And when you're watching old. Jeets have to sit in a pocket for that. on national television. How does that. make you feel? >> Uh, yeah, it hurts. I mean, I'll be. honest with you, I've gotten over it. because it's funny, being a Yankees fan. is very similar to, ironically, being a. Packers fan or being a Steelers fan. you. kind of notice the six or seven Achilles. heels that are really going to you know. bite you in the ass come postseason you. know that stuff needs to change none of. it's ever going to change so they got.

eliminate I mean the stuff that kind of. killed them all year and to lo you know. to lose to a team like the Blue Jays who. are just the antithesis of the Yankees. like how are they scoring runs boom just. go piece of hitting single the other way. score two runs get guys on base move. them over don't need to do it with the. long ball and then look Look at this. I. mean, a guy hit Guy hits this 8 mph into. right field, but that's all you need to. do. Puts it in play. Yeah. Biggest fatso. in the MLB. Carved up the as well. Wobble body Alejandro Kirk scores. Uh,

and the Blue Jays end up winning 5-2. It. just the defense killed him when they. needed to. It's almost like Aaron Boon. went into that game last night and was. thinking like, well, yeah, Cam Schlitler. is just going to throw eight innings and. have 12 strikeouts and completely. handcuffs these guys again. I mean, he. he's only pitched in like 15 games this. year. He was unbelievable. But that's. that's what the Blue Jays do. They put. balls in play. They make your defense. work. Timely hitting. I mean, that's. just that's the way it goes. And we. talked about this a little bit. Like the. the thing that sucks the most is Judge.

has that moment last night and like now. it doesn't mean [ __ ] It doesn't mean. anything, you know? Like for him it was. good. Sure. But like you talk about. moments in Yankee history, like that's. not even like the top 100 anymore, unfortunately, because they got. eliminated the next night. He batted 500. in the playoffs in this series. In this. series, he was nine of 16. The rest of. the Yankees batted 207. He was literally. the only guy who showed up. So like. that's the thing that hurts the most is.

the Yankees have their best player. probably since Babe Ruth. like this guy. will go down as maybe one of the five. best baseball players of all time and. because they're front office and they. just choose to do the same thing year in. and year out and they they just think. because we're the Yankees we can spend. more money, we can hit more home runs. and we'll just beat anyone. Well, in the. playoffs you get a team who who doesn't. do that. They just play clean, solid, sound baseball and they [ __ ]. embarrassed them. Just embarrassed them. So, I'll be looking forward to next. year. It'll be the whole lot of the.

same. Judge will have another phenomenal. season. might win another a uh AL MVP. And at the end of the day, this is. probably what's going to happen. You. know, whether it's the Tigers or the. Blue Jays or, you know, the Mariners, one of these teams who doesn't have the. star power, doesn't have the same names, doesn't have the stats, they will beat. the Yankees. And uh this will just go on. for eternity, unfortunately. >> Forever and ever. That's the Yankees. life is what Tai says. I refuse to. believe that. Every once in a while, your bats go cold, especially if you're. a big bat boopping ball club. And if the.

bats get cold, all of a sudden you're. not as good. Who was the other guy? Gold. Uh he was about. >> Paul Goldmid. Yeah. Who the Yankees gave. $20 million in the offseason to for one. season play first base. Former NL MVP. He's been great all year. But you know, once again, we get we've gotten into. this analytics portion of the world. where it's like he's right-handed, so he. he can't get a base hit off a. right-handed pitcher. He can only play. when lefties are in there. Uh so he he. basically got like six at bats in the. series. >> Jeez. got several hits in those at bats.

Um but yeah, too little too late. You. know, there you get in a position where. you know I there's so many guys that I. don't want to do this to and I won't do. it. Don't do it. Don't do it. You're. emotional. You're emotional. I'm not. But but that's the thing is I'm not I. feel like I'm very clear-minded right. now. Like that like I'm not emotional. Last night after they lost, I kind of. just sat on my couch in disbelief in two. hours and just sat at a TV that was. turned off. just sat there and just kind. of let it all wash. >> The Yankees lose,

>> which that was that was awesome. That. was that was actually really funny. Vlad. >> joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, is. a man who's been calling prime time NFL. football for 40 years. He's also a. baseball historian. We saw that on an. episode of Rushmore on X that debuted. this Tuesday, this past Tuesday, where. he and Bob Costage chitchated about the. four biggest sports chokes. And what. ended up happening on this episode was. just a sports history lesson for all of. us to listen along from hockey and. football all the way to wrestling and.

baseball. Got a big storytelling in it. all. And uh joining us now the man who. kicks off the NFL week for us on Prime. every Thursday night. Living legend and. icon Al Michael. >> Yeah. >> Al, how you doing, bub? >> Patrick, how are you? Two things. Number. one, I tried to find a tank top. >> I know. in New York to dress. appropriately for the show. >> Secondly, do you have another $300,000. that I could be a part of in terms of, you know, maybe. >> do have Herb Street throw another thing.

through the uprights? >> Al, maybe maybe I should start tapping. into your bank account now that I think. 40 years of prime time NFL football. I. need to start drawing from that bank. >> Well, you know, uh, what do I have to. do? It's a good question. Um, I'm. looking for uh I'm I'm you know I'm. trying to What am I trying to do right. now? I'm trying to do nothing. >> Why don't you give me MONEY FOR THESE? OKAY, SO YOU WILL BE FUNDING AL MICHAELS. WILL BE THE sponsor for the field goal. kicks going forward. That is awesome.

news. Hey, I'll run you out of that. plane that you're in every week if you. let me. Nicks this week $2 million kick. from Al Michael's money. Uh Herby Dandat. for Gabby down there in Alabama was a. magical moment. You and Herby obviously. now year four together on Amazon. How. has it been this year? Feels like we've. had some great games. >> Fantastic. I mean, the last two games. have gone down to the wire. Can't ask. for anything more. We had Green Bay, Washington in the opener. Good game. >> We had Miami. They didn't figure to hang. in there with Buffalo and they did. So,

that was a good game. Arizona Seattle. went to the end and last week went to. overtime and the end. So, we're we're on. a roll right now. Hopefully, it keeps up. tonight. I don't know. We'll see. But. the Eagles are something like a a one. touchdown favorite tonight. I mean, Pat, the sky is falling in Philadelphia. They. have won 20 of 22 games. What I mean, I. don't get it. This is crazy. I know. everybody hates everybody, but isn't it. a little It's a little ridiculous at. this point. They are 20 and two over the.

last calendar year. >> I know that. Oh, I know that as well. Uh. they're 4- one right now, but if you. look at this tail of the tape here that. we found uh from team rankings, it's. like the Philadelphia Eagles have not. been playing like what we know the. Philadelphia Eagles can play like. So. that has brought the John's out to be. very negative about a 4-1 team. On that. note, they just got embarrassed at home. against the Broncos. Fourth quarter, they lose 18 to nothing in the fourth. quarter at home. This could have been a. Sunday game and they would have had to.

wait seven days. Could have been a. Monday night game and they would had to. wait eight days. instead four days and. they're back on the field. What has it. been like talking to the Philadelphia. people? Are they eager to get back out. there? And on the flip side, Jackson. Darden, the boys lose to the Saints. They give Spencer Rattler his first win. in 11 starts. So, both teams, I assume, wanted to get back on the field. What. are you hearing from both of them? >> I think any team that loses on Sunday. wants to play on Thursday, you know, so. they can wash it away real quickly. So, you get the sense that that's the case. You know, with the Eagles, I mean, go.

back a year, they were two and two. They. wanted to fire everybody a year ago and. then they got on of course a roll. But. before that too, remember in 23 they. melted down what were they like 10 and. one and lost six of the last seven or. whatever. >> and the wild card game in Tampa Bay and. then they're two and two last year and. everybody's saying oh get rid of the. coach, get rid of this guy, get rid of. that guy. >> who lifted the Lombardi trophy. So as B. it's amazing those numbers were. terrible. They're they're at the bottom. of the league in almost everything. Defensively when they were great last.

year, I mean, defensively, they're so so. this year. So, nothing seems to line up. statistically, but I don't, you know, this team has too much talent not to get. on a good roll down the stretch. I think. they will. >> What are your thoughts on the Giants. after talking to Dall, Jackson Dart, Scatteraboo, and the boys? Feels like. they're trying to start their new era. here, a new a brand new era of Giants. football. >> Oh, yeah. Everybody was so excited, of. course, after the Charger game because. the Chargers come in undefeated. Now. it's the it's the Jackson Darda. This.

kid has uh Do you know him at all? He's. got a lot of moxy and I'm telling you, he's he's a confident guy. Makes his. decisions very quickly. We love talk. We've had him in the in the preseason. Now we've had him again between him and. Scataboo. Uh I think the future is. extremely bright for both of those guys. You know, for the rest of the team, we'll see. I mean, this is a team of You. know what's so crazy, Pat? Over the last. eight years, uh, the Giants in preeason, we we had the number that they were they.

had the worst record over the last eight. years coming into the season. Now, they. have the second worst. Which team has. the worst over the last eight years? >> Last eight years. Jets got to be. >> got it. You got it, man. >> Bang. >> So, didn't he call the Cleveland the. factory of sadness? What has meant life? >> Well, especially after this Yankees loss. with what they're going through. Al I. know you're a big baseball guy. There. you go. Did you hear Tai losing his mind. right there as a Yankees fan about what. happened? Look, he's still pitch.

>> Go ahead. >> Not only Not only that, the Penguins. shut the Rangers out three nothing the. other night. >> Yep. >> Oh, we're back. By the way, the Pens are. back, brother. THEY NEED DAMUSE. THIS. NEW GUY GOT BALD HEAD, NOT A LOT OF. VOICE. He's ready to take over. But. yeah, it's a state of state of sadness. over there. And then also we hear. Giannis wanted to go to the Knicks but. they couldn't make it. I mean everything. New York-wise not not great. Not great. over there. Uh okay. So tonight. obviously we have an NFC East battle.

Feels like there's a lot of divisional. games happening on Thursday again. This. used to be the story you were on Sunday. nights I think. So I don't know if you. paid attention to what Thursday night. used to be. Keller Rush and all that. [ __ ] It was always a divisional game. because they felt like it was fair for. all parties to have a meaningful game on. a Thursday night. And then also I think. they were trying to build up Thursday. night as an NFL night. So they wanted. good games. The divisional game. certainly gave them that. We're seeing. that again this year it feels like. Is. this going to be a new norm again almost. for Amazon?

>> I think so. Not only for Amazon, but I. mean you look at the Netflixes of the. world coming in and the YouTubes. The. league wants streaming to work. There's. no question about that. So, we started. out that first year, the schedule was so. so had a couple of decent games. I. thought a seminal thing was last year. when the league gave us Cowboys Giants. streaming on a Thursday night. That that. was big because I mean that's that's. always been kind of a prime time matchup. uh for either NBC or or for Monday Night.

Football. So, I thought that was big. This year, again, we've got a lot of. great, you know, Detroit and Dallas down. the line. Uh but the way we started out. Washington and Green Bay and the rest. So the league is definitely invested in. making this is the future. There's no. question about it. We're not going to. stop this runaway train as you know. Linear TV will be here for a while. It'll still be here for a few more years. and then all of a sudden you know when. I'm at Forest Lawn we'll be streaming. everything. >> Now that'll never happen because you the. way you've dieted throughout your entire.

life. We think there's a chance you live. forever. Okay. There's a chance you live. forever. It could it if you don't eat a. vegetable, there's a chance I'm on the. Oprah show in like 2096. and say this is the key to life. Don't. eat anything out of the ground. Just out. of the stockyard. >> Let that mean something. >> Oh, you're the greatest. Your brain's. still quick by the way, but uh I think. you talked about the last couple of. seasons. All the conversation was was. Al's not getting excited about any of. these games. That is all it is. And you. come on this show and you're like these.

people want me to scream for what? We're. week six. It's the second quarter. What. What do we What do you want from me? I've never done that. I I think this. year because it's been such good games. I don't think that chatter's happened at. all. I think you're throwing your. fastball. You feel the same way, >> Pat? Everybody hates everybody, right? If you go on to antisocial media, Mother. Teresa would have been a bank robber. [Music]. I mean, >> I don't know if antisocial media would. do that to Mother Der, but I I.

understand what you're saying. The point. remains. >> The point remains. Uh, all right. We got. some questions for you from the boys. here about this season. Go ahead, Tone. >> Yeah, Al, you had the NerS last week and. they had that huge win against the Rams. Uh, and Pat was by far the first on this. talking about how, you know, M. Jones. and Kyle Shanahan, they they had their. history when Kyle kind of wanted him in. the draft and now he's there and he's. playing incredible. Did you get a sense. or a vibe around there that it's anyone. but Brock Pery's team when he's healthy,

even when even with M. Jones playing. incredible? >> Not before that game, but I think you're. going to wind up having a little bit of. a quarterback controversy, maybe more. than a little bit. >> in San Francisco because we'll see how. healthy Perie is. I mean, what a. performance by Jones the other night. Not only that, we thought he was out for. the game after the season at one point. because he's he's on the turf for for. almost three minutes. Gutty performance, great performance by him, >> I guess. I mean, what you might know.

more than I do at this point. I haven't. seen the the ins and outs for this. weekend, but I guess it'll be Jones. starting with them in Tampa Bay this. weekend. >> Uh, it's interesting. I mean, look, San. Francisco is used to, you talk about. quarterback controversies. >> Oh, yeah. No greater quarterback. controversy than going back 30 some odd. years, Montana and Young. That may have. been the alltime controversy. So, not. that this is going going to get to that. level, but I think it's going to be. extremely interesting, especially if M.

Jones goes down there and beats Tampa. Bay this weekend. >> M. Jones has been slinging in. Remember, Shanahan warned them at first. They. traded away the entire business to get. M. Jones there and then they changed. their mind and now through you know. football universe gods coming together. he got a chance to get back there and he. is spinning it now speaking about going. back somewhere anytime the Eagles and. the Giants play going forward there's. going to be one player that's certainly. going to be talked about and Mar is. losing his sleep still about it go ahead. Ty. >> yeah Al Squan had quite the day against.

the Giants last year a couple times and. then tonight you know he's got the doc. releasing before the game a lot of. people are saying there's maybe some. tidbits from his convers conversation. with Mara when he asked for a trade and. Mara said no, but he uh only had six. carries last week. He obviously hasn't. looked like he had last year when he. just went gang busters from week one. Do. you get the sense that this is maybe a. get-right game for Squan in that Eagles. uh rushing attack tonight? >> I do. I do because I mean obviously he's. not off to the greatest start. Last year.

he put up, you know, off off the charts. numbers. I thought, you know, this team. had been more runoriented through the. first four games and then last week I. thought what what was really interesting. considering all the stuff with Brown and. you know carrying on a little bit in. with Palms and the rest of the stuff. >> I thought I thought it was very. interesting that the first play of the. game last week went to Brown and then. they threw to Brown a couple of times on. that first drive. So I think I felt. watching it on television that this was.

to assuage the wide receivers a little. bit too. You know, get Smith involved as. well. So last week, I mean, it was. amazing that that Barkley would only. handle the ball nine times, three. catches, six runs. I think you'll see a. heavy dose of him tonight. That's my. guess. Can't wait to watch you. Can't. wait to listen to you and Kirk call the. game. And uh hey, these kickers are. bombing balls. Let's make sure uh you. know, we're spotlighting that out. We. got a we got a golden era right now of. kickers with these new balls.

>> Pat, I got to ask you a question. >> I mean, to me, it's getting to the point. where, you know, two first downs, you. kick a field goal to win the game. Do. you think Do you think they SHOULD. DEFLATE THE KICKING? >> DON'T AL, ENOUGH, AL. GET OUT OF HERE. LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, IT'S A LEGEND. AL. [ __ ] YOU, AL. DON'T EVEN PUT THAT IN THE. UNIVERSE, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN. THAT'S. AL MICHAELS. GET HIM OUT. AL, DON'T SAY. THAT ON THE GAME. DON'T SAY THAT ON THE. GAME, AL. JEEZ. TRYING TO GET RID OF OUR.

TRYING TO RUIN US. >> HE'S GOING TO SAY IT ON THE GAME. >> You You pay me 300,000. I WON'T SAY. >> GET OUT OF HERE. GET HIM OUT OF HERE. >> How you on the other side? Be a friend. Tell a friend something nice. Like, Al, you're the greatest of all time. Okay. We appreciate what you do. >> Don't do that, Al. We don't need that. right now. The kickers are flying high. We're living a good life. Let's not. change it. We'll see you then. >> It's electrifying here at Happy Valley. We're lucky to be here. And uh you know. the way you win this is you have uh be. the first 300 people here and you get a.

ticket and then we randomly select a. ticket and that person gets an. opportunity to kick a 33 yard field goal. for an undetermined amount of money. This week we had our man William, right? What's your name? >> William. Yes, sir. >> You won the raffle and you said, "I. don't want to kick because I suck at. kicking." Is that accurate? >> More or less. >> What is your uh major here? >> I'm a finance major. >> Okay. So, money decision was I suck at. this. Let me try to find somebody who's. good at this. How did you land on my man. here? And uh what are your hopes in him?

>> Well, I was looking around. I saw my. man. He said he plays soccer and I was. like, this is my guy right here. My guy. Carson. I have faith in him. So, I know. he's going to get it done. >> All right. You're Carson, right? You. played high school soccer. Is that. accurate? >> I did play high school soccer. >> Where are you from? >> I'm from Hannover, Pennsylvania. >> Okay. You're a Pennsylvania guy. Have. you ever kicked a ball before? other. than not football, soccer. >> Okay. Well, hope hopefully you're. terrible at this. It's $100,000. Uh are. you guys splitting that 50/50? >> Yes, sir.

>> Okay. Uh so we'll make it uh $300,000. $150,000 for both of you. Okay. >> You only get one kick, though. You've. game the ticket game, which I appreciate. and respect. It's up to $300,000. $150. for both of you. Only one kick though, Herby. We're not doing anything. I don't. care how many stators chant for another. kick. >> Only one. Herby played high school. soccer. He's a good player. >> We got a problem here. >> That's right. It's a white out. It could. be a special day. YOU COULD HELP OUT.

YOUR GUY WILLIAM IN WINNING $150,000. [Applause]. >> One kick 300,000. two. You feel good though.

>> You're a good man. >> this minute. Good man. >> Carson, congratulations. >> You pushed that, >> WILLIAM. WAY TO GO. >> IT HAS BEEN AN EXPENSIVE YEAR OUT HERE. AT the Field Bowl kick. Carson, I'm. proud OF YOU, BUDDY. 300, 150 to you. 150 TO YOU. GOOD finance decisions were. made in the FIRST TOP SIX WHITE OUT HAS. A MAGICAL VIBE AND AN EXPENSIVE ONE. WE.

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battle between the Giants and the. Philadelphia Eagles it'll be happening. in Metife Stadium and uh All eyes will. be on Amazon Prime as Kirk and Al are on. the call. Al Michaels just joined us and. uh I don't love all of his ideas, but he. certainly uh he's a legend and icon and. we're thankful that he stops by and. chitchats with us. What was on his hat? I'm not 100% sure. It looked like it was. maybe a bridge or. >> I thought maybe the Brooklyn Bridge cuz. I believe that's where he's from, but I. could be wrong. >> Yeah, it looked like it was a br Yeah. I. I didn't I didn't have enough confidence.

in the combo to let that one fly. And. it's hard to identify just by looking on. the hat which which bridge it is. >> Could see that it was something, right? >> What was. >> the something that that was we're in the. middle of it. Normally we like to at. least have a little bit of a combo cuz. there's a reason he was wearing that. hat. You don't just put that hat on for. no reason. We we should have asked about. it. That's on us. But he he put out a. terrible suggestion on what should. happen to the Cowboys. So that's how it. goes sometimes. at Boston Connors here. at Tai Schmidt want to have WITH THE.

HAMMER DOWN Cowboys AP Tony here. What. is the percentage of money for tonight's. game looking like and uh as we know. anytime the public is over 60% is not. good. Are we still sitting in a. situation where the public money is more. than 60% on one side? >> Yeah, as you said it is not good. 13 and. 30 on the season when the public money. is over 60% on a certain side and it is. currently hovering at the same 65% it. was in the first hour. So nothing we. have said in the first hour has changed. anyone in the public's opinion. >> Didn't we say I said to me I said Pat.

this is what you're doing. >> If there's more than 60%. automatically go the other way because. it's 13 and hard to do. >> Mhm. >> Cuz I wake up on Mondays thinking I did. good. >> and then I look at my score on how I did. against the spread and I look at my. account and I realize I didn't do good. I did. But all of us thought we were. going to do good. Anytime the public is. losing like this, how long is that going. to last for? Couldn't it be this weekend. >> exactly. >> that we break this? Joining us now is a.

college football national champion, a. Super Bowl champion, a RDER Cup winner, a father of 10. Ladies and gentlemen, AJ. Hawk. >> Yeah, Hawker. >> AJ, this could be the weekend though. that changes it in the in the public's. favor. That could be the case. And and. tonight could be a perfect depiction of. that, AJ. >> So, what we would have to go with the. Giants then if we're going to do that, right? We're going to buck the trend. >> Yes. If we would like to be on the 30. side of 13 and 30 for the more than 60%. bet people, we'd currently be sitting. Giants plus seven and a half, which is. more a touchdown obviously in a division.

game on short weekend. Okay, which these. teams know each other, do they? I don't. know. Jackson Dart was at Old Miss last. year. Scataboo was at Arizona State last. year. Like those guys are absolute dogs. Dall will certainly understand a Syrian. team, I guess, more than maybe anybody. else because they have to play each. other two times a year. Saquon Barkley. certainly understands both these. buildings very well. So, I guess there. is a familiarity and obviously the fan. bases and there is a rivalry. I think. Eagles and Giants notably hate each. other. I think that is like supposed to. be a thing. So, we could expect a KG.

affair. You look at the numbers. Not. great for the world champs, AJ. I mean, it's uh it there's so many different. stats that we can look at and basically. none of them tell us an accurate story. >> Okay. So, it's all on us this week, AJ. It's all on us. >> You guys got You guys can do it. You're. as fond as you've ever been, both of. you. >> Yeah, you're right. AJ was what? 11 and. four last or 11 and three 11 and three. >> I think the schedule does come into. account when you look at these numbers. I know Con man went over that earlier in. the show. Like the Eagles have been. Yeah, they we understand what the. standard is with the Eagles coming off a.

Super Bowl win, but they've been playing. some tough teams, man. So, I get why. these numbers might be down a little. bit. >> Well, so have the Giants though. Let's. the the team of the Giants have played. or not. I mean, the Saints they just. played. So, the Saints win Saints get. their first win at home. Uh first win. with Spencer uh Spencer Ratler as. quarterback. Kelly Mo, Kelly Mo, way to. go. >> Kelly Mo down there. Obviously, Philadelphia Eagles uh success down. there. So, good luck to them. But I. don't know. Naturally, just seven and a. half doesn't feel like enough for an. Eagles team that got embarrassed at.

home. And the stats say 13 and 30 or. whatever. And it's like that just feels. like a serriani le. This is the week. that it doesn't matter who's on that. other side. This feels like an Eagles. win in my by a lot. So now it being the. Giants and being a known. >> division rival, does that change things? I guess so. >> Yeah. I mean, it's just one of those. things where you got to talk yourself. into the Giants. You, you know, like I. it feels like even on Sunday Night. Football, Bill's Pats like that was a. different situation. Division game and. eight and a half was too much. Whereas. on Thursday, Bill uh sorry, Eagles.

Giants tonight, it's more so just, hey, this one's obvious. We could overthink. it with the division and all the. [ __ ] and stuff like that, but we. could also just think of, hey, one team. is extremely motivated. Didn't the. Eagles just get rid of victory Monday. and then they lose after getting rid of. victory Monday? Like is it another thing. where they. >> kind of get their kind of hey we can. enjoy the wins because these losses do. suck that much? I I don't know. Maybe. >> I also am not really a big belie like. Connor mentioned it earlier like hey you. know New York needs this with the. Yankees last night but I think.

>> not just Yankees Yankees Knicks Rangers. Yeah. You put all that like I think. there is a world in which like if the. the Eagles jump out to like a 10 nothing. 14- nothing lead early. Metife might. turn into a morg and it could end up. just being like a Here we go again. Like. our lives suck. Everything sucks and. we're about to get steamrolled by the. Eagles. >> Isn't there a casino over there? Is. there a casino near there? Is that a. >> sports book? >> Sports book. >> and uh harness racing. >> Okay. Maybe go put some money on a horse. or something.

>> Yeah, they might. I would be shocked uh. if the Giants did turn over five. straight possessions this game like they. did last week. >> Bruce, you're a you're a Giants fan. What did you see? What have you seen. from this Giants team that makes you. think Yeah, tonight Giants def I mean. what the hell that's going to happen. He's a he's a rookie rook fumble. Um. yeah, no Tony is getting at at the. positive spin zone. Five consecutive. turnovers. We're running the ball well. our defense save a Rasheed Shahed Bomb. is generally playing um a good bit bit.

better but yeah obviously you know the. the Eagles in a get-right spot off an. embarrassing loss it could be tough the. latest in sort of the calamity of errors. that befall the Giants organization. um obviously we have Malik Neighbors. torn ACL he's done for um the year we. had the opportunity prior to the Saints. game to elevate some practice squad wide. receivers elected not to said hey screw. it we don't need wide receivers. We'll. go four tight ends. We won't bring. anybody up. During that game against the.

Saints, Darius Sllayton gets a hammy. Now all of a sudden, you got Gunnar. Schevy and the funky bunch out there. We. got no wide receiver one. We're rolling. with Jaylen Hyatt and then the man. featured on uh on Goody kind of giving. up on a route. That was Bo Collins, rookie wide receiver. Uh number 81. So. we just play a game of whack-a-ole. We. got no kicker. Russ stinks. Now we got. no wide receivers. Um it it's just you. know that that stuff's brilliant. >> It's a calamity of heirs that befall the. New York Giants. >> Yeah. Yeah. Just a.

>> So who's your pick, Bruce? >> Uh I I actually do love the Giants. to be completely honest with you. Scatoo. is going to run wild. Uh we'll we'll see. if Saquon gets right and gets loose, but. I still think it'll be less than week. seven last year when he had the 175 on. us. >> A calamity of errors that beef all the. New York Giants. On that note, >> give me a. >> give me tonight. >> Uh, you know who I love, AJ Hawk? >> Who's that? >> The Indianapolis Colts. Listen to this. miked up of Shane Stiken on the sideline.

that the Indianapolis Colts social media. department released. >> All right, we're going to score on this. freaking play. We're going to score, dude. Watch this. Watch this thing. We're good. This thing's going to be. gone. It's a touchdown. Yeah, he's going. to throw it to Dan for a touchdown. Watch this. He's going to catch a. touchdown here. There it is. Oh, yeah. Hit it. Touchdown. Get it inside. RIGHT. THERE. SCORE. GO. SCORE. WOO. OH YEAH. >> YEAH. WOO.

Hell yeah. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. >> Every play's a touchdown, AJ. That's the. type of offense coordinator, head coach. that I like to see. But this team has a. fantastic kind of vibe around it. And. Shane Stikken, I think, is really coming. into his own as being the full head. coach of the Indianapolis Colts. He has. the opportunity to have a quarterback. that knows how to execute his offense. He has leaders both on the defense and. the offense now. It feels like he's in a.

very comfortable state and he gets to be. who exactly who he is. And it sounds. like he's a guy who thinks every play is. going to be a touchdown, AJ. And I love. that as a fan. >> Yeah, he does. and watching him watching. he's miked up with him like you want to. know your coach is invested that he. cares and that he's on your team like. he's rooting for you. So I I think the. players are going to love I'm sure a lot. of them already seen that clips of him. miked up like that. But yeah, I I've. mentioned on here multiple times I. played against Adrien Peterson twice a. year for eight, nine years in a row and. that dude was so pissed off every time. he got tackled because I truly feel like.

he felt like if I get the ball I should. score every single time. And seems like. the Colts have some of those feelings as. well even with the coaches. Yeah, Adrien. Peterson certainly thought that and it. looked like that whenever he got the. rock in the Colts for a while. I mean, we only scored touchdowns. We did. nothing else. We're not going to punt. We're not going to turn it over. We're. only going to score touchdowns. We'll. kick a field goal from Spencer Schrader. whenever we need it. He gets hurt. obviously last game. Tears a couple. ligaments. He'll be back hopefully next. season stronger. We signed Michael. Badgely. But yeah, I I enjoy the hell.

out of what Shane Styens doing in the. team. And you talk about him being in it. as much as everybody else. Absolutely. And that Duelan Duelan got an. opportunity because AD Mitchell dropped. the ball, held it. AD Mitchell's time. kind of got pulled back. A little bit of. accountability from the Colts, which is. uh abnormal to what we have seen in. years past. Duelan gets his opportunity. He does. So it's uh we're in a good. spot. Feels like the culture is in a. good spot with the Colts. >> Yeah. And maybe. >> which is crazy to talk about after what. it was last year. >> Insane. It's even crazy with a few like. even the Jacks. Like it's crazy to think.

about some of these teams that have just. completely flipped and some teams that. have completely flipped the other way. But maybe it's just because they're. winning now. >> Stiken's got a top three game day fit. I. I mean he looks unbelievable swagger on. on the sideline. The hoodie with like. the white shirt underneath with I. believe they're all they're a white. Nikes Air Force team, right? Isn't that. a. >> Well, they got new white Nikes on for. each week. I think I think they do. change it up actually. But yeah, they're. white shoes. had white Air Forces last. year. They will switch it up. I like the.

all black with the blue that we have. with the white. Yeah, he he's got Moxy. He's a NorCal. >> Oh, I didn't realize he was a cow. >> Yeah, Austin Collie and he bruh went to. high school together. >> Wow. >> Great swag. >> Lot of bruh. Good hat. Got the Ji Jim. Ers hat on there. He looks uh Yeah, it's. a great spot to be. Also a great spot to. be a Tampa Bay Buccaneer. Uh Baker. Mayfield was in the middle of a press. conference the other day and he was. asked by Jenna Lane of ESPN if he. enjoyed having that moment with the. Seattle Seahawk fan and then obviously.

getting to win afterwards. He said yes. obviously and then that led to this. question during his presser. Is there. was there something where you kind of. realized maybe your younger years um I. don't know if you were as accepted uh. for for doing some of that stuff and now. it does seem it seemed like it's a. little bit more embraced. You know, people people gravitate to it a little. bit more. The narrative changes around. that. Do you notice that? >> Yeah, I mean that's I told you guys I. try and not get too high, not get too.

low, which is something that I was not. doing early on in my career. But, you. know, early on in my career, um, yeah, it's looked as cocky, immature. Now it's. Moxy, he's a dog. So, it's same. different day. Just as long as you play. well, they change the narrative. But, you just got to be yourself. And I've. always been like that. >> Don't want to put myself in everything. But is he he's taking a shot at us. >> What? What. >> is that? Is that a shot of Moxy? I use a. lot of that. He's a dog. I think we use. every other. >> We give him comments the whole time. though. We were never killing Bake. We. always loved his Moxy and his confidence. and his charisma. We know that.

>> Okay. I hope so cuz he is a very. thoughtout person whenever he's giving. press conference answers. There's a. reason why he says things. We've seen. him absolutely bury people in his own. brilliant way and it's like whenever he. describes you know they used to say this. now they say this we've been a Baker. supporter I think since the beginning. but on that note whenever you win. >> obviously it's viewed differently. >> Now granted did he win in Cleveland? Yes. >> he still did. He won a playoff game. there while he said obviously learning. and evolving and everything like that. But he has always had the Baker Mayfield.

edge, I think, since we've seen him. And. I think that's his point. It's like I've. I've always been me. I have never not. been me. Now, was he a little bit too. high, a little bit too low at the. beginning, as like most 22, 23 year olds. potentially are as they could become. men? Yeah, he acknowledged that, but. he's always going to be Baker. And I. love that. I love that Tampa Bay has. said this guy's our franchise. They've. paid him like he's a franchise. And. against Seattle, anybody can get it if. they want to run their mouth. He is. still Baker Mayfield. I love that. Uh. and I'm thankful he's uh getting a.

chance to kind of talk his [ __ ] too. >> Yeah, agreed. And now, even though, you. know, we tend to use Moxy in dog uh when. talking about him these days, >> talking about everybody. >> And everybody. Yes. >> I know other people use these terms, but. boy, Moxy, >> yeah, they didn't they didn't use him. six years ago, but Yeah. >> But he was on this show two years ago to. the date at the Dallas State Fair. He. was. >> and that was not his younger career. That was later in his career. So if he. was thinking he was talking about you or. any of us in his early career, he. >> remember he started playing bad after.

playing on our going on our show though. It did not go great after he came on our. show. Now he's got a long-term contract. with that team. >> Yeah, exactly. >> And everything ends up working out well. in the long term. But I appreciate that. Baker Mayfield has probably taken it on. the shins for a large portion of his. career, you know. And in Cleveland, I. think there should have been more people. saying, "Hey, this guy wins. Why. wouldn't we have him there?" Joining us. now, ladies and gentlemen, Super Bowl. champion, head coach of the NFL, our. coach Yinszers through and through, absolute legend. Ladies and gentlemen, coach Mike McCarthy.

>> Coach, good to see you. Good to see you, coach. You look amazing. Hey, can you. talk a little bit about a quarterback. with that edge like Baker has there? What are your thoughts on him, the. player, and uh where he's at in his. career right now with Tampa basically. saying this is our guy for the. foreseeable future? >> Uh, I I love everything Baker's doing. And I had a chance to watch Baker. playing high school like Travis down. there in Austin, Texas as a Cavaliier. and you know his whole flight out there. to Texas Tech to Oklahoma. And I I I. love what he said in the press. conference cuz he's exactly right. He.

hasn't changed. I mean, he's always been. feisty, maybe a little more up and down. in his younger years, but he's always. played the position of quarterback. Super competitive, but he also does a. really good job of distributing the. football. So, love what he's doing. He's. having a great year and I'm just really. happy for him to have that success and. and I think Tampa did a great job. committing to him. >> Is it accuracy that is Baker's best. thing? Obviously his competitive edge is. awesome, but he can put the ball as if. he was the hand delivered. Is that the. biggest thing for quarterbacks to have. success in the NFL?

>> I would say that, you know, the. accuracy, but his anticipation. I think. he's a great anticipator. Um, you know, and he's and obviously he has a receiver. group that he's in tune with. You know, that those guys have played a lot of. football together. But, you know, when. you watch when you watch him play, you. know, he's he's not sitting on his back. foot. He's going through he's going. through the the progression. There's. always rhythm to his feet. Ball comes. out on time. So, very composed in the. pocket. Uh, but I think he's an. excellent anticipator. >> AJ, he's not the only hawk or Hawk.

quarterback in the NFL right now. We've. been chitchatting about two guys that I. think coach McCarthy loves as well. >> Absolutely. Coach, we've heard you talk. about Dak Prescott and how how much you. appreciate him as a player. also Trevor. Lawrence. Two young guys seem to kind of. be taking that next step, maybe playing. very well early. What's your thoughts on. those two guys? >> Well, so much, you know, as we said. about the quarterback position as far as. productivity and and and and really, you. know, getting the ball distributed to. their playmakers, but I I love it when. you see players go to another level. emotionally. The confidence just oozes.

out of their ears and and I thought. Trevor with that big win, you know, the. other night that I mean that that that's. a nice, you know, stepping stone. You. always talk about stack and success as a. football team. You definitely need to do. it as a quarterback, you know, and no. different with Dak. I I thought Dak has. done a great job playing the way he. needs to. You know, I thought the the. time clock um you know, passing game he. had against uh was Green Bay was exactly. what he needed to do and he did it for, you know, four four quarters and an. overtime. So, and and I thought he did a. great job against the Jets just getting.

that ball distributed. you know, with. that, um, you know, the production, winning obviously brings a lot of. confidence, but when your quarterback is. that dude, that dog, and you see the the. the body language and and and how. they're winning, I I think it lifts. everybody up. >> Yeah. I uh I appreciate the fact that. Dak and Trevor not young at this point. They're kind of middle of their careers. Both of them have been paid. And if. their best football is still very much. in front of them, which I it feels like. you think that is the case, right, for. Dak and Trevor and Baker.

>> Oh, definitely. Definitely. I think. today these, you know, these. quarterbacks are playing to their 40. I. mean, I just think the way, you know, the NFL players are, you know, just with. the support and, you know, the science. and everything. Uh, you know, they take. great care of their take great care of. themselves. It's not uncommon to see. guys having great years in their late. 30s. So, yes, definitely. I think they. have great years in front of Is there a. chance that um just like we're seeing. whenever guys have to go to a new spot. like Trevor could potentially let's say. with the way this career's gone if he. wasn't number one overall pick gets cut.

from Jacksonville because of the chaos. that happens down there goes and finds a. new team finds a new team and then has. this mid career run we'd say oh this is. like Baker Sam Darnold Kirk cut we're. saying this right now Trevor and Dak. have been at the same places now there's. been some change and some turnover them. still playing their best ball and being. the pillar of the team is vital to the. success, right? I mean, that is. something new coach needs, new. organization needs. Coach McCarthy, >> it's critical. I mean, it's critical. I.

mean, when you have the quarterback. there in place, you know, everything. else is built around it, you know, and. then really the first component I've. always felt is the defense, you know, because that quarterback needs he needs. a great defense to support him because. you don't want to stress your. quarterback out every single game. It's. fun to throw the ball 45 times. it's on. it. But, you know, having the run game. and and playing complimentary football. is very important to winning, you know, to get your win totals up during the. regular season. And obviously, that's. what wins in playoff football. So, I. think the fact that the organi. organizations have recognized the.

importance of both these young men is is. is a great job on their part and and. then just continue to build around them. because, you know, you know, if you. haven't had a quarterback and when. you're starting over, there's there's. always growing pains. you you don't ever. get to skip those steps. >> Yeah, it's uh life sucks when you don't. have a c when you stink. Life sucks. I'm. just going to say that outright. And. obviously quarterback good indicator on. whether or not you're going to be good. Feels like New England's good again. Go. ahead, Con man. >> Yeah, coach, got to talk about it. Uh.

Sunday night was kind of the birth or. rebirth of Tom Brady, some people are. saying, and Drake May in New England. I. know a lot of Bills fans were, you know, asking themselves, WHO WHAT IS IT, 2025. OR IS IT 2015? WE SUCK AGAIN AND WE'RE. LOSING TO THE PATS. WHAT THE HELL? >> PEOPLE WERE SAYING THAT. >> YEAH, I saw that on the internet. Um and. I mean it's hard to argue because Drake. May answered basically every call on. Sunday night. Um what did you think. about this performance from him? Obviously young 22 23 year old.

quarterback. Uh feels like this was kind. of his coming out party for the world. Anybody who watched him last year and. even beginning this year thought, okay, so Drake's good, but this team maybe not. so much. the team has caught up and the. Patriots seem to be a legitimate problem. now for the NFL. What did you think. about Drake? And is this one of the more. impressive kind of young coming out. performances? I mean, that play right. there is ridiculous. And that is with. two minutes left on first down, beginning of the drive trying to go down. and tie or win the football game, which.

he did. >> Love your analysis. No, clearly. I mean, I I think the thing I really enjoyed. watching watching him play and then you. can even see it in the highlights is. when he's in the pocket, he's stepping. in every throw. So, obviously, they're. doing a good job of give giving him a. pretty much a clean pocket there. But, he played on time. He was accurate with. the ball and then and made the biggest. plays of the game outside the pocket. So, I thought he played a hell of a game. and and you know, they go headto-head. with Josh Allen, you know, that that's. definitely a win. That's a nice niche in. your belt and but I thought he was so.

composed throughout the game, you know. Um and that that is so big for. particularly where he is in his career. being so young. >> Yeah, he's super accurate. >> I mean, >> he's got really He's got great throwing. mechanics. Yeah, no doubt. >> Yeah, very accurate. Just the way he. throws super accurate, don't you think, coach? >> You want me to say accurate? >> Is that Greenfield behind you right. there? That's Greenfield. Yeah, that's. McCaslin and Parade Street. My parents.

live right pretty much that's the view. from their front porch. So, I thought I. gave you a little Pittsburgh today. >> Yeah, I love it. It feels good. It feels. good. And also, it feels like fall. You. see the weather? Yeah. >> Yeah. It feels like That feels like my. childhood there with football is what. I'm looking right over your shoulder. there. So, I appreciate you doing that. for us on this glorious week six. kickoff. from Drake May being young. quarterback to the middle of careers. guys having resurgences to how about end. of career brand new home traded in the. division now expected to start in about.

four days go ahead Tone. >> yeah coach I wanted to ask you about Joe. Flacco getting traded on a Tuesday and. then going to start on a Sunday for uh a. team that he is not familiar with I. don't know uh what his uh pass is with. Zack Taylor I don't think it's much if. any so how do you how do you do that as. Joe and also uh Zack Taylor going into. Sunday. >> Well, I mean, it's amazing in today's. NFL, but I I think it's so unique, especially in the division, too. But. Joe's played a tremendous amount of. football, so really the the biggest.

thing for him will be the language and. the, you know, the terminology and the. cadence. So, and uh like I said, he's. played tremendous amount of football, but you know what what I what I you know. tend to think when I saw that happen, I. don't know AJ and and Tai remember this. is, you know, when you play the same. team twice in in one year, you know, >> um that that was actually a very bad. experience for our team in 2011, you. know, we played a quarterback by the. name of Kyle Orton that put up some. really good numbers and uh. >> we played him in the Denver Broncos.

earlier in the year and then Kyle was. traded to the Chiefs And um we went down. to Kansas City and that was the 15 in. one year and uh and Kyle beat us. So I'm. not saying that's going to happen to the. Packers. I think they've they've. definitely learned their lesson. But uh. I just think it's really unique to play. the same team in one in one season. I I. think that's going to be something to. watch. >> Well, especially with Joey Flax brain. >> Joey Flax back and it's bad for the. Pack, I think, is what a lot of people. were saying down there in Cincinnati. Chase Brown said Joey Flacco has got.

like this this brain that is just out of. other otherworldly. They they he said he. memorized the play call right in front. of Zack Taylor first day he got there. Puts the uniform on. All of a sudden. he's starting he's understanding the. offense may better than Joe Burrow does. this. Wow. >> Joe Flacco actually saying to Zack. Taylor, "Hold on, brother. I did this 20. years ago. You need to run this actually. instead of this. Let's go ahead and. feast on T. Higgins, Jamar Chase." These. are all things that possibly happen, coach. These are all things that. possibly happen. >> Well, no, definitely. I mean, he he. obviously understands the pieces that he. has, but he also knows where, you know,

once again, already playing the team. He. has that that game day experience. He's. probably going to have a really good. idea where he wants to go with the ball. and pre- snap. And yeah, I I think that. uh you know, I'm that's definitely a. game I I'm going to be watching. >> Is that in the jungle? >> No, it's in that's at Lambo. >> Okay. >> It's in great Yeah, it's great. >> Yeah, in those O line stats, >> he said that's a game I'm definitely. going to be watching. He's going to be. there. He's going to be here. I'll have. eyes I'll have eyes on Joey Flack this. weekend, actually. Uh maybe maybe have a. couple uh cold pops, you know, like his. old Greenfield days and then we'll go.

watch Joey Flack turn back the hands of. time against Green Bay at Lambo with. Steve Sable lingering over top telling. the story of Joe Flacco, this journeyman. who has been to the mountaintop. previously and has been worth hundreds. of millions of dollars. >> going back. >> Unbelievable. What the hell I say that? Yeah. Well said, Pat. >> Thank you. Thank you, coach. I uh I. definitely appreciate. >> Love the shirt. Hey, I love your shirt. Before we get done here, I want to make. sure I comment on us as strong. >> Well, thanks. You're trying to get out. of here. I appreciate that. The uh. >> No, no, no, no. Sounds like you're.

trying to get out of here. Yeah, it. sounds like you're trying to get out of. here, coach. Yeah, I understand what. you're trying to do. >> Where am I going? Yeah. [ __ ]. >> No, I appreciate that. Yeah, it feels. good. You know, the daughter growing, getting older. She's She's two like a uh. two and three, four months, whatever it. is. I haven't done the exact math. Um a. lot of chatting, a lot of chirping, a. lot of noises, a lot more words coming. out though. We're starting to do that. and she's at the don't go dad stage. whenever I got to go to things. It is. tough. This this is not good. Okay. I.

thought this was coming later in life. I. I thought I had a few years before they. cared if I left. You know, now there I'm. getting the hug and the grab. You were. the little nails in my back of my neck. Oh. All right. Let's ball. Let's get. back to ball. Let's get back to ball. AJ. has a question about something vastly. different than me being a dad to. McKenzie. Go ahead, AJ. >> Yeah, coach. I'm not sure if uh you saw. out in Arizona Coach Ganon got a. $100,000 fine I guess for like making. physical contact maybe with a player. I. guess what are your thoughts on that? And also like can you you could tell us.

honestly here like how has this ever. happened with you and how if not how. close were you or have you ever been to. maybe punching, pushing or maybe getting. in a fight with a player on the. sidelines? >> Um I you know I I would say you know you. know today is today is definitely. different. You know, I I think that's. just definitely an experience that. leaves a dent on both sides of it. You. know, and I think, you know, because I. always go back to when, you know, when I. came into the league in the '9s, you. know, we all remember as young coaches. when you got your ass for it by Marty. Shanheimer. I mean, you you really.

weren't, you know, initiated into the. league until until Marty, you know, Christian that way. But, you know, it's, you know, it's something that uh, you. know, probably it's where it happened, you know, how's it happened and and and. I just think it's it's it's a different. day. you know, it's it's a different. day. And I know obviously, you know, Jonathan regrets it. Um, but, you know, and it's vice versa. I I just think when. you have situations that that cause, you. know, that there's disrespect on both. sides of it, it's definitely a learning. experience because you don't want you.

don't want it. I mean, I I just always. felt as a head coach. I didn't like I. didn't like a lot of roles and and as. you call AJ, my my only role was no. disrespect because it covers everything. just if we can just and we can get to. where we need to get to. We can have. disagreements. We can raise our voice to. one another, but the disrespectful. behavior, uh, I just don't think there's. any place for it. >> Well, hopefully they're all able to move. on. Uh, Coach Ganon said that the team. room was uh, dope or lit. I forget which. word he used. It was one or the other, talking about the vibes in the building. moving forward. So, hopefully they're.

all able to do that. And obviously that. Arizona Cardinals team, are they ever. going to go? >> You know, are they are they ever going. to go? We shall see. before you go. Like. you're trying to get out of here. Jeez. Let's talk about tonight's game. Yeah. >> Put me on another segment. >> All right. We'll lock it in. All right. Let's lock it in. >> You have the the uh the five. >> Oh, yes. Let's actually do a segment. Let's do a segment with you. Hey, coach. Earlier today, we called you. >> Yeah. Oh, I remember. Yeah, that's why. for helping you out here.

>> I want to send you on your way. I. thought you were leaving, but you are. producing. This is good leadership out. of you. Earlier today, AJ, we called. Coach McCarthy and on the spot because. the conversation we were having in in. the Thunderdome, we're like, "Hey, who. are the top five quarterbacks from the. 2025 season, we said to him and he goes, "Oh," he starts thinking he has to look. I think he was dropping off his kid at. school, right? Is that not what you were. doing? >> Correct. And I, you know, pulled over. legally and returned your text. >> Yes, you did. Yes, you did. We. appreciate that. Yeah. Thank you. But he. he said, well, off the top of my head.

here, it like cuz he didn't get the D. So, we would like to preface this that. we asked Coach McCarthy for his top five. of the first five of the 2025 NFL season. and he was not allowed. He was not given. any thought or checking of anything. This is literally fast ball. This is. immediately upon being asked. Number. five, who did you have? Coach McCarthy. >> Um, Daniel Jones. >> Yes, you did. I like that. How come? What do you think? Well, that, you know, when when uh when Connor asked the. question, I I you know, where my mind.

goes in quarterback play is completion. percentage. You know, that's where who's. who's dealing the football, who's. getting the ball to to the to the. playmakers, you know, completions and. rushing, staying on time, and you know, and obviously who's winning, who's. affecting winning, and so and I mean, Daniel is definitely off to a a great. start. Uh his numbers speak for. themselves. I'm not sure exactly what. they are, but I know he has great. numbers. uh situational numbers. You. know, you see that in his in his red. zone production, you know, throwing. touchdowns and so forth. But I think. he's doing a hell of a job getting the.

ball distributed because, you know, the. old 70% completion percentage is. something that that I've always that's. what I grew up on. You know, you go back. to the uh early Can I pontificate here. or do we got to get through these? >> No, take your time, bro. Yeah, but I. mean, you know, when I got in the league. in the 90s, you know, Paul Paul Hackey. was my mentor and he always quoted, you. know, coach Walsh about 70% completion. You know, that was the essence and. really a key component of the West Coast. offense. So, we used to have a sign, we. used to have a sign in our quarterback.

room that said 70% completion percentage. and there was only four at that time in. the history and they were Joe Montana, Steve Young, Ken Anderson, and uh Sammy. Ba. and three of the four were coached. by, you know, coach Bill Walsh. So, so. that's where my that's my base on if to. being productive getting that ball. completed. And then now you look at this. generation of quarterbacks. Um, there's. got to be eight, nine, 10, 11. I mean, there's there's so many guys that have. that play. I think Drew Brees has done. it so so many times. I've lost count.

Aaron, Tom, I think Mahomes has done it. So, you know, Goff has done it the last. couple years. So, I just I just think. you're seeing the the quality of. quarterback play, but that that's always. been a starting point for me. Who who's. know they're not throwing interceptions. Who's getting the ball completed? >> Slinging Sammy Ball, also a punter. People forget about that every once in a. while. Incredible ball kicker and the. quarterbacks have only gotten better. Danny Dimes has certainly uh seemingly. reached his maximum potential here in. Shane Stiken's offense. Let's go to a.

guy that would fit in any era. At number. four, you said Matthew Stafford. How. come coach? >> I I I I I I've got to see him play a lot. of football and I I I just you know what. I have seen him this year. He's on time. Obviously him and Booker are shattering. records right now. So, you know, ball. distribution. He he can make any throw. still on the field. Uh great. anticipator, phenomenal confidence on. the inside throws. I've always loved. that about Matthew, but I I think he's. playing at the this, you know, the Pro.

Bowl Hall of Fame level that he's played. on his whole career. Devonte over there. Obviously, McVey doing his thing. Puka. is on pace to break some records. I. mean, there are that's a special team. out there, especially with their young. defense clicking in all cylinders so. quickly. They obviously put the. Philadelphia Eagles into the deep into. the 12th round in that last year's. playoff game. They were the only ones. that came close once the Eagles started. kind of pummeling teams. Seems like. McVey is only going to have good squads. All right, let's go to the top three QBs.

of the first five weeks of the 2025. season. DAK PRESCOTT. HOMER. >> Go ahead, coach. >> Oh, Homer. Absolutely. He's playing. playing his ass off. I mean, I I don't. know what his completion percentage is, but I know it's got to be well over 70%. Uh, I just love the way he's. distributing the football. >> 71.3. >> 71.3. Thank you. He's um you know and. and I like the really the maturity of. the of the perimeter group and you got. an offensive line that's that's uh you. know got a lot of depth there. So.

exciting on offense and I just think. he's managing that thing exactly the way. it needs to be managed. >> There is 10 guys above 70% completion. percentage right now. Hebo just sent a. text in letting us know that Dak is. certainly one of them. 71.3%. >> Yeah. So it's uh it's uh 10 to1. including Tyrod Taylor. He's played two. games. Tyrod, Josh Allen, Tua, CJ Strad, Dak, Dan Jones, Lamar, Sam Darnold, Drake May, Jared Goff are the 10 to one. >> So Dak Prescott 71.3% operating.

incredibly in Shodenheimer's first year. as the head coach over there. Dallas. Cowboys could go on a run. Dak playing. special ball down there. That's number. three. Who are the top two top five. first five QBs? Baker. HEY, THERE HE IS. HEY, THIS GUY'S A DOG'S. GOT MOXY. YEAH. >> WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT HIM, Coach. McCarthy? >> Well, he's got a completion percentage, too. I'm sure. No, he's he's he's. definitely playing. What I love about. Baker, and that's what's really why he's.

where he is, is what is it? Four of the. five games have come down to the end. So, he, you know, he's playing great. football at the most important time. You. know, when you look at the, you know, over the course of a regular season, half your games will come down to a. two-minute drill, and he's already got. what, four under his belt already. So, I. just think he's playing top notch. football right now. Uh we love Baker, especially four games, four comeback. wins uh in their first five games and. then they have two last play wins. So. that means you're talking about a team. of belief, a culture that he is leading.

And to go into Seattle, that's a long. flight and get a big time win after. shit-talking with that fan before. entering the field. That's what we love. about him, AJ. That is the little things. that we love about Baker Mayfield. >> He's the man. Coach, um I I understand. you like Baker and everything. Did you. ever see this success like him making. this step, especially the weird route. that he has traveled to get to Tampa and. where he is? >> I I I actually uh I think when you when. you get to the end of these journeys, you know, those experiences are were. probably a big part of why he's having.

the success he's having because it's. really been going on his whole life. You. know, he he went to Texas Tech as a as a. you know, as a walk-on, I think. I mean, and then and then, you know, then had to. leave Tech to go to Oklahoma. So, I. mean, this this guy has, you talk about. resilience. Um, I mean, he he he could. write the book on it. So, I I think it's. just part of his journey. Um, and I and. I and I think there's no surprise why he. continues to get better. >> Currently has 10 touchdowns, one. interceptions. He's fourth in yards in. the NFL. And obviously, we're watching.

the Tampa Bay Buccaneers in incredible. jerseys play electrifying football. games. And the number one quarterback in. the NFL this season through the first. five, THE REIGNING MVP, THE ODDS on. favorite to be the MVP, Josh Allen. What. have you seen in the first five weeks of. Josh that puts you number one here, coach? >> I just I just love the way he attacks. the position. You know, he can make you. makes all the throws in the pocket, out. of the pocket. Uh I mean, his his his. patience and confidence in play. extension is as good as as good as you.

can be. I mean, there's how many times. you see him just, you know, get to the. sideline, you know, gain another two. seconds, 3 seconds. It's there's never a. play that can't be made, you know, when. Josh has the ball. I I just think he's, you know, I I think he's playing it. unbelievable right right now. So, >> I mean, he was just smacking that guy's. head right there, too. He's not scared. to mix it up. He'll get in there in the. grip a little bit. >> and he's undefeated. I mean, it's one of. those things. They're not. >> Well, they lost to Yeah, they lost to.

the Patriots, but um. >> Yeah, that was Conor obviously, coach. Yeah, that's. He did that to He did this to you right. there. He He LITERALLY JUST FISH. COACH. >> But Josh is special. He is, coach. He's. special. >> He's special. No, he is. He really is. I. mean, and really the size, strength, and. speed, just the way he plays a position. Um he just attacks it. I love watching. him play. How about his development from. year one to year two, year three? Like.

every offseason there's like significant. growth in his game. Like liter from year. one to year two was like, "Wait a. minute. This guy doesn't suck." We we. thought he potentially was just a. runner. This guy might become a tight. end. Maybe we put big hands. He can. catch the ball pretty good. Let's put. him at tight end. He's jumping over. guys. He can't throw a ball. Then year. one, year two, he gets better. Then year. two to year three becomes elite. Then. year three to year four, it's like, is. this guy the best player in the NFL? And. then he's kind of carried that along. So, his work ethic is stupendous and I. think his love of the game is very. evident if you watch that hard knocks,

he's a good face of the NFL right now. Even though obviously we have a few, Josh Allen is a very good face of the. NFL, I think, coach. >> Yeah, definitely. And I I I remember. just when Josh came out of Wyoming, there was a there had to statistics, you. know, the college breakdown about his. about his accuracy. And I can just. remember, you know, talk talking through. the evaluation process. I says, "Yeah, but it's it's hard to be accurate when. you throw the ball to the damn moon. I. mean, this guy just needs help, you. know. So, I mean, and I just, you know, he's he's one of the best players or may.

maybe the best player in our game right. now. >> MVP. Can he win a Super Bowl? It's all. anybody wants to know. And that's all. Josh is hunting now for the rest of his. life. Can any of these guys other than. Stafford make that happen? We shall see. Congrats to these top five of the first. five in Coach McCarthy's nonreal deep. thought. >> list of quarterbacks around the NFL. >> All right, coach. Before we let you go. and we appreciate you taking time, we. need you to talk about tonight's game. because I know you don't want to make. official picks obviously, but if you.

were to this season, you'd be four and. one. >> Okay, you'd be seeing the board what we. like to call very well. Okay, this would. be 80% hit rate if my math holds up out. of five total opportunities. And once. again, we don't want you to make a pick, BUT HOW DO YOU SEE tonight's game going? Division game, 7 and 12 point spread. Eagles coming off an embarrassing loss. at home to a very good Broncos team, but. the way they lost and the way they. collapsed in the fourth quarter is. certainly something could pull from. And. then on this Giants team, they're.

hosting obviously a May life. That place. is going to be zoo. Those Giants fans. are going to be going crazy on a. Thursday night because the Yankees lose. terribly. >> The Knicks lose out on Giannis. >> Bruce just asked why we're laughing. >> The Rangers The Rangers lose to the Pens. three. The Jets are the losingest team. over the last eight. Nothing sports-wise. is going good. But tonight they have the. Giants hosting the Eagles, a team that. they hate. NFC East matchup, NFC East. rivalry game. Coach McCarthy, how do you.

see the game going? And what are your. thoughts on seven and a half being the. spread that sports books who have been. hitting at a high rate say this is? >> It's a lot of points. Um, I think the. first off, as we always talk about, is a. division game and you know, when you. look at the numbers, I mean, Philadelphia knows how to win. uh and. that's what they're getting done. But. there, you know, obviously, you know, there's some when you look at the. numbers, you know, it's, you know, who. they are on offense right now, you know, as far as getting the ball distributed. I I think the key for them is really. they got to get the ball to their key. guys tonight. But I think there's going.

to be, you know, some big matchups that. um that I'm going to be watching. I. watch that Dline of U of New York, you. know, versus the offensive line of. Philadelphia because I mean, I think New. York just the way, you know, the. pressure that that they're that they're, you know, getting after. We saw Denver. do some of that um against Philadelphia. there in the second half. So, I I think. there's going to be some really. interesting matchups, really some scheme. challenges that see how they affect, but. it's a division game. It's going to come. down to who really takes care of the. football. Um actually, you know, I want.

to see how they use Jackson Dart. I hope. to see him more from the from the. pocket, more quarterback and and not, you know, 10 runs and things like that. So, get the ball, get them all moved, you know, spread around a little bit. more. But, yeah, I I'm um I just. struggle with seven and a half points. I. that's a that's a lot of points in a. division game. >> All right. So, coach McCarthy's on the. Giants plus seven and a half if he was. to give a pick even though he's saying. that's a lot of points. Eagles get to. win. He says Eagles win games. They win. first game. Seven and a half though. It's close. Everything he was saying is. this is a twofer here. You're welcome.

Yeah. >> You get seven and a half with Jackson. Dart and Scataboo. Okay. The boys going. to run wild on Thursday night. And then. the Eagles are going to get a win and go. to five and one. And people are still. going to [ __ ] about what they are. >> Precisely. >> All right, coach. We appreciate the hell. out of you. Is that exactly what you. were saying? Hey, hey, you can't. Yes. Couldn't say. it any better. >> Hey, when we going back to Greenfield? Are we ever going back to Greenfield? When do we get an opportunity to walk. down those roads? And I think it needs. to be November, December, so we can get. a little bit of the same type of vibe. that it is right now. >> Need six. Oh yeah.

>> Yeah. Hey, let's do it. Yeah. I'm going. to be getting over there in the next. couple weeks. So, >> let's make it happen. >> It looks like a place you just need to. walk down, breathe here. >> You going Sunday Night Football, Packer, Steelers, Coach? Uh, I I don't know yet. Yeah, I don't. know yet. >> Okay, let's make a decision on that. That might be a celebration for all of. us. We'll see if we can make it back. That's a huge game. But at that point, >> be huge game. >> Had the Packers already lost to Joe. Flacco twice by the time that game comes. around. We'll see this weekend. Ladies. and gentlemen, the man, Coach Mike.

McCarthy. >> Yeah, coach. >> I'll be dead if they lose to Joe Flacco. So, you guys have fun at that game. I. won't be around. >> Come on, Joe Flacco. >> I heard the toaster. I heard a toaster. comment. >> It's not good. I don't like that. That's. what he's thinking. Joe Flacco is a good. quarterback. >> He is. He is. You just. don't get beat by Joe Flacco two times. in 17 days or whatever. Two different. teams. >> Two different teams. >> AJ, how about you and me make our picks. here to start our Thursday night. football cuz what we're about to do is. have an incredible conversation with an. absolute weapon.

>> Yes. >> An icon. An American hero actually and a. man who has a incredible brain will be. joining us live. And every time he stops. by, there's always something in there. There's always something. Tonight, the. Eagles will take on the New York. Football Giants. 7 and 12 point spread. Mike McCarthy likes the Giants plus 7. and a half. He's saying that's a. divisional game. >> It's a divisional game. That's a lot of. points for a Thursday night. Both coming. off losses. Where is the public's money. at right now, Tone, as we sit at 143. Eastern time. >> We had a jump up to 76% for the. Philadelphia Eagles. Uh I was talking.

about the above 60% earlier being 13 and. 30. When you go to above 70%, it's 3 and. 13 uh against the spread. And it's. currently sitting at what? >> 76. >> All right, AJ, does that change the way. you view this game tonight? Coach Mike. McCarthy's on 24% uh party. The New York. Giants plus seven and a half. Bruce. Brown's on the plus seven and a half. with the New York Giants as well, even. though he laid out a calamity of heirs. Uh. >> we just got no wide receivers, but who. needs them? We're going to run that ball.

right down their mouth. We're going to. run Scataboo against the Eagles. >> Yep. Until the wheels fall off, man. Tyrone. >> Carter playing. >> four and six. questionable, but Tyrone. Tracy is back. So, we got Scabbo and we. got our thousand yard rusher from last. season back. >> Hey, Jay, who do you like? How do you. like it? >> All right. I don't like to be swayed by. the public. Uh, but Bruce does sway me a. bit when he talks about his Giants in. such glowing fashion, but give me the. Giants plus seven and a half here. tonight. >> I'll take the Eagles minus 7 and a half. on Thursday. >> You get a seven.

>> I got minus seven. Okay. And now I'm. three and what? >> The 70%. >> Three and 13. >> Okay. tonight. >> This is always when it turns around when. it comes to the like you always get the. weekend. You talked about it earlier. >> Could be this one. >> where where all those public bets do. hit. >> Yeah. And there's a chance also that we. just could. >> No, no, no. For AJ, I guess it would be good if that. was to happen. Congrats to you taking. the Giants tonight. Legit. >> Yes. Congrats to me. I've I've gone back. and forth over the course of the last. hour for sure. >> I've wanted to take the Giants plus. seven and a half numerous times. I've.

done it in the past, actually. And uh I. think I'm going to stop doing that. I. think I'm going to stop doing it. I'm. going to wake up tomorrow and say I took. the world champs. Yeah, that's what I. did. 7 and 1/2, 10 and 1/2, 20 and a. half, who cares? I'm taking the world. champs. They got a lot to prove after. embarrassing themselves. Two-hour. conversation, Jaylen, Saquon, and AJ. >> Yeah, >> that's maybe team chemistry building. Yeah. You know, maybe they're back to. who we thought they were. >> or they absolutely hate each other. >> No. No. Two hours joyful. >> Huh? >> Wait, was it like scheduled or did it. happen organically? Like they all kind. of, you know, like if they had to make. it to a 400 p.m. in this room, sit down. 4 to 6:00 p.m. Like I hope it wasn't.

that way. Just as somebody that maybe. has a little bit of a busy schedule, I'm. okay with scheduling time to chat with. people. >> I actually reached out to see what they. did for those two hours. Good news. >> They watched Remember the Titans and. they've they said, "Hey, >> same wars that they were fighting on. those fields back then. We're still. fighting right now.". >> Wow. Amongst ourselves. >> So, I think they got back together. >> All right. I'm hoping tonight they have. a big one. Ladies and gentlemen, speaking of a big one, >> this might be the biggest book this. man's ever wrote. >> Yeah. We have no idea what this is going. to lead to. Ladies and gentlemen, a man.

who's authored nine books, eight in the. terminal this series. This one that is. releasing is called Cry Havoc. Oh, >> the author and absolute stallion of an. American hero. Former Navy Seal sniper, whiskey drinker, ladies and gentlemen, Jack Car. [Applause]. >> Let's go. back. >> I love Jack Car day. >> That's for you. >> Yeah. YEAH. WHATEVER YOU BRING ON JACK. ON WARRIOR.

>> YES. >> You're the best. >> Favorite part of book tour right here. >> No. No. The Our favorite part of anybody. releasing a book is whenever you come. here to Indianapolis and join us on. yesterday. >> You got Ah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I saw. there saw a couple of little things in. the the room back there. >> Oh, yeah. There's a little bit of magic. happening. And then uh I saw you're on. Rogan. >> Awesome. That was incredible. Good time. always. >> We appreciate every time you stop by. here. Congratulations on all the. success. Honestly, honestly, and we talk. about this every single time. Uh AJ and.

I obviously retired from the NFL. It's. like what's next? What's next? Military. experience the same thing because it's. uh kind of takes over your entire life. and everything you're a part of. You're. in the military a long time, family in. the military a long time. Whenever you. retire to be able to transition into. something that is very difficult and. have success is obviously something. that's worthy of celebration, but you. always representing for the military and. putting the military over while doing it. is honorable and awesome. So, congratulations. >> Appreciate that. Yeah, thank you. Thank. you. >> Let's talk about Cry Havoc a little bit. here. Okay, so this is Vietnam. >> Vietnam 1968. It's like a time machine.

back there. I didn't want to just throw. on some Credence Clear Water Revival and. say it's 1968 and then just drop this. contemporary thriller into the 60s. I. wanted to transport people back. So, if. you would walked into my office about a. month or two ago as I was doing writing. this book, finishing it up, it would. look like I was invading North Vietnam. I had maps all over the walls from the. 60s. I had car 15 in the corner, Browning High Power, Randall Knife. I. had stacks and stacks of books and. manuals everywhere and it did look like. I was gonna invade and I probably could. have. >> Yeah, you're you're a method writer and. obviously we would bet on you if you.

were to invade anybody right now uh to. win. We. >> also on that conversation feels like. invade is something that is happening on. a regular basis at this point of time. which I don't think any of us could have. expected. Let's talk about Vietnam. Vietong obviously the big problem over. there but also uh kind of public. perception of everything happening over. there. Is that a part of this book as. well or. >> part of that book? It's the first time. that uh I think that the media really. realized that they weren't just a check. on government power and on government. overreach, but they could actually. influence policy, influence events, influence people's perception. So, it's.

a big shift from World War II to. Vietnam. And I talk about that in there. You had a lot of these guys that were. out there. They'd step outside Saigon. for a minute and make a take a video so. it looked like they were out in the. field and then they'd go back to the. Continental Hotel and start drinking all. the rest of the night until the next day. when they do their next report. But uh. they had a vested interest in uh in a in. an outcome to this war and I think they. got so what do they say you say you uh. find out someone's true character you. give them some power and I think the. media during that time frame during the. 60s uh really felt that that power and. we're seeing their character. >> well me media manipulation has always.

been a part of warfare since media has. been a thing right Vietnam va massive. way I think middle east has been. something like that right now there's. people that talk about that it's always. been a source of uh weaponry for I think. in these wars. How deep into the war do. you go in this and how long did this. book take for you to write? >> It took a lot longer than I thought at. the outset because I wanted to just make. it uh for someone who lived through the. 60s particularly for those guys who went. to Vietnam and went down range. I wanted. to make sure I honored them by getting. those details right. So I really wanted.

to to transport everyone back to 1968. Goes from January to uh January of ' 69. So one full year starts with USS PBLO. taken off the coast of North Korea in '. 68. And uh almost a full year these US. sailors were held captive by North. Korea. But that was the idea that I had. about taking the most uh sophisticated. technology encryption technology of the. day. North Koreans get it, they give it. to the Soviets. What do the Soviets do. with it? Well, they start encrypting US. communications. And that's the uh the. basis for this book. It's really an. espionage thriller dropped into the. heart of Southeast Asia, 1968, which was.

the bloodiest year of the war for US. forces. >> Congratulations to you, man. So many. books, so many different projects, such. a big brain. How long were you uh a seer. in in. >> 20 years in 20 and a wake up I like to. say 20 was good. >> So you literally 20 year anniversary and. then you woke up the next day. >> Bam. Out. >> Well, thank you for your service. >> Hey, 20 years in a wake up sometimes. that's all you need. Uh obviously served. our country and uh we're very thankful. And you also gave back in a big way and.

that's what it feels like you're always. trying to do in all of your books and. all your work. Congrats on uh the. prequel. You guys watch Dark. So awesome. Congrats, dude. >> Thank you. Thank you. >> So many different avenues now. So many. different avenues now. >> Got to build it. Got to build. And then. we just finished in Morocco. Finished. True Believer, which is the second book. over there. Uh finished that up with. Chris Pratt about two weeks ago and then. came right directly to to book tour. So, and that is looking good. It's like you. have all the ingredients. When you make. something like that, it's like each. scene is an ingredient for the meal and. now you have to make that meal. Put them. all together and that is going to be the.

show. So, we have the ingredients. Now. it's time in post-production to make a. fantastic show. >> So much respect, dude. Ty has a question. for you. >> So when it comes to that and you have to. kind of put that cap to the side and go. back to write a book. Like are you at. the point now where it's just like. training a muscle and it's like you sit. down and you get or have you noticed. that the more of these you've written, does it become more difficult? Like do. you hold yourself to a higher standard. almost at this point or h how is that. process go? >> Yeah, the goal is always to improve. So. I wanted dark wolf to be better than. terminalist. I want true believer to be.

better than Darkwolf and same with this. book. this book is better than the last. one. I feel like I've gotten better. every time. Always want to improve. Same. thing in the SEAL teams. Want to be a. better leader and operator today than I. was yesterday. And now I want to be a. better author today than I was. yesterday. And then just as a human. being, I want to be a better father, a. better husband, and a better citizen. today than I was yesterday. So, it's all. about constant improvement. Let's go. >> Are you still shooting? You still you're. a better shooter today than. >> Oh, got on the range the other day and. it uh it worked out pretty well. Yeah. Part of book tour. My book tour is a. little different. So, uh yeah, hit hit a. range out in Austin, Staccato. So went. out there, shot one of their their new. pistolas out there and it was it was.

awesome. >> Tell me this though, you're a Navy Seal. sniper, right? >> Yeah. >> Okay. So Marines obviously have a lot of. um moxy and confidence about their. shooting. Obviously rifleman's creed is. a part of the Marines and everything. like that. And Full Metal Jacket. actually talk about all the snipers that. have been in there. Navy Seal snipers. obviously very high level. How many. groups of snipers are there that are do. you guys talk to each other too? like. hey uh we see through a scope better. than any other unit that's particular. like who are like the groups of snipers. that really amongst you guys.

>> no every every uh different unit has its. own sniper school so uh the Marines have. theirs navy has theirs army has multiple. and uh then we send guys to those other. schools as well so we can uh cross. trainin and we can disseminate that. information and make everybody better. not just us don't want to keep it just. pigeon holed or or uh in our own little. little silo so we want to make sure that. everybody is benefiting from our lessons. and uh that really came out of the that. we were doing a little bit before the. global war on terror but after that uh. it became readily apparent about how. important that was because now guys are. going down range and and it can be the.

difference between life and death. >> Okay. So I don't want to bring up. negative stuff. Okay. But snipers you. actually are seeing cuz I had a friend. who was a spotter again the Marines for. a sniper and we got pretty boozed up uh. numerous occasions and then just like. the story the PTSD story of him. binoculars watching people snipers same. thing right you're kind of watching it. all happen. That's a different level, I. think, of h warfare that you guys are. in. And obviously the patience and the. can't move and the targets are taken out. or the people that you're protecting.

But you're I mean you're seeing I mean. you guys are literally seeing it all. That's a whole different animal. >> Yeah. You're seeing it and then you're. having to make that decision. So uh. policy decisions that are made at the. executive level with the president and. it goes all its way down through the. admirals, through the generals, through. every level of command and the last. decision maker in that chain of command. is that person. It could be 18-year-old. kid with a rifle at a checkpoint. uh. could be a sniper in an overwatch. position, but that is the last decision. maker in a chain that starts with the. president. So, as a sniper, you're. making those decisions just like anybody. holding the rifle out there down. Right. >> That chain of uh command can't be fat.

anymore. >> No way. >> That's right. Yeah, they're knowing to. get back in the push-ups, need backup. >> They look a little nervous out there in. that little meeting that they all had. back in Quanico. Some of those guys, but. uh it's interesting. I I call in this. book actually have a conversation. between two guys and they talk about the. Department of War versus the Department. of Defense. And so this was written. months and months ago. But I talked. about that also after the withdrawal. from Afghanistan. I talked about the. difference that precision in language. reflects precision in thought. Defense. means something's different than war. And I talked about that in multiple.

shows and appearances after the. withdrawal. And uh I'm not saying that. the administration got this idea. You're. a good writer. They should think about. it. >> But I am saying that I never heard. anybody else talk about it until I did. in 2021. >> Well, thanks for bringing it back into. the lexicon because it is a hilarious. title. I mean, Department of War. There's just so much. and out there. AJ has a question for you. from Ohio. >> Yes, >> sir. >> Yeah. Jack Jack, I know you tried to. like, you know, take yourself back to. 1968 for this recent book. Would you. like how did you do that? You talked to. what guys like Carlos Hathcock, his.

family, maybe demo Dick Marino. Did you. reach out to their families and really. get in on on what was going on back. then? >> Yeah, I read all the uh autobiographies. I could read from guys that had been in. Misog specifically. So, guys going into. Laos, Cambodia, North Vietnam into. denied areas where Americans were not. supposed to be. We read their. autobiographies and then had them on my. podcast and then got to know them. So, I. would text them, I would call them, I. would email them to check on certain. things. I would send them chapters. because I wanted to uh really honor that. service uh with the details and getting. those details right and making people.

the the reader transporting them back. there so they could feel the the sights, the sounds, the smells, and what it was. like to be there across a border in a. denied area uh in the dark, in the. jungle with bugs, with the snakes, and. with an enemy slowly approaching your. position. >> We appreciate you doing that, taking the. time. How many bottles of this were? Uh, >> yeah. So, there you go. Uh, before we. have hard out, Connor has a question for. you. >> Yeah, Jack, last time you were here, you. were releasing Bayroot, the non-fiction, and then Red Sky Morning. And Red Sky. Morning was predominantly about AI. The. last year of AI has been pretty insane.

Like, have you have you kind of seen. comparisons between what you wrote and. what is going on right now? >> Yeah, I started with AI and quantum. computing a few books ago before anyone. had heard of chat GPT. True. And then. everyone then chat GPT becomes a part of. the lexicon and uh it'll be this next. book that I write will be another. contemporary thriller James Ree and uh. with the way that AI is into our lives. in the intelligence services and the. military apparatus it's going to be it's. going deep into that but uh also just. generally publishing Hollywood what's AI. doing there and uh but he told me a. story I'm going to make it real quick.

because I was kind of concerned about. the AI side of this what does it mean. for authors if someone can say hey write. my book in a jack car style or whatever. else and just you know have it printed. out there and uh it's Whan Jan Jennings. sitting down with a Whan Jennings cover. band guy back in the 80s and the Wayan. Jennings cover band guy is telling Wayan. Jennings how amazing he is and how much. he appreciates it. And Wayan Jennings. says, "Yeah, man. There's just one. problem with what you're doing." And the. guy's like, "Well, what is that?" And he. says, "You're always one album behind.". >> So I'm like, I'm going to think of it. like that. >> Yeah. Cuz it's chasing you, brother. If.

they're trying to be you, they're. chasing you. And obviously imitation is. the greatest form of flattery. Everybody's going to want to be Jack. Carr whenever they grow older. You're a. badass and American hero. And your new. book, Cry Havoc, is available now. everywhere books are sold. We'll be back. tomorrow reacting to tonight's Thursday. Night Football game. Yeah, that's a. [ __ ] I hit that, Jack. You see that, Jack? I'm [ __ ] on the zero with the. book. >> WITH THE [ __ ] BOOK, you make me better. You talk about being. a better leader and everything. We're. still live. We still live. You know.

that. We still live. You talk about. being a better leader and everything. like that. You walk in this building and. I JUST BOOM, BANG, POW, BOOM. Even Yeah, that was You make us better, Jack. >> Oh, man. You guys fire everybody up, not. just me. You guys don't know what the. influence you're having. It is It is. awesome. Fire me up. We fire people up. in positive end. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. THERE'S A LOT OF. FIRES. YEAH. FIRES. YEAH. WE LIKE WE. like to bring the fire. Yeah. Bring the. juice. Uh Tone has a question for you, Jack. >> Yeah. Back in Dark Wolf, there is a. scene where Reese uh Chris Pratt and. they're sitting around a fire and he.

gives uh his father's I believe a. compass or. >> Wam compass from the. >> He gives either gives it to Rafe or Ben. Okay. So he gives it to Rafe. >> So now when I was talking or when I was. looking at the book or whatever that. ties back to that's Reese's dad. So when. you were filming that, did you know that. was. >> in the book or when you were writing the. book, did you know that was going to be. in the TV series? And how much does that. all tie together? >> Yeah, there's a lot a lot of overlap. these days. So the book that part of the. book was written well before that scene. And uh so just any little touch point we. can put in there, little Easter eggs we. can put in there, anything we can little.

foreshadowing, little things we we can. hope to explore more in the future, that's all woven in there. If you got to. the last episode, Beirut's woven in. there. 1983 that's in there. So it hits. the the non-fiction as well. So man, making that show was amazing. And uh all. those guys just brought. >> How tall is the actor for Rafe? What's. Tom? >> 65. He is so tall. And uh yeah, my wife. was really excited about that show cuz. she loves uh Texas Forever, you know, Taylor Kids, Friday Night Lights, and uh. and so she's watching that show. Really. excited. We got to know Taylor. Taylor's. amazing. Become a great friend. And uh.

then Tom Hopper gets out of that pool in. episode two. And I don't know why my. wife's favorite episode is now episode. two. >> I want to be on a set. Yeah. We got any. more pool scenes. >> I I understand. Hey, uh that's the movie. world as a whole. There's a lot of. glitz, a lot of glamour, a lot of. moments where you can kind of get lost. in the sauce. Now that you're so famous, >> you are now that you're so famous, so. successful, everybody wants to be a part. of your [ __ ] do you feel like a. pressure to still represent for the. milit? Like, how do you kind of I I know.

you're probably just going to say, "Well, I just got to be me or whatever.". There's a lot of distractions, I assume, for you now. There's a lot of people. that want a bite of the Jack Car for. good [ __ ] reason, by the way. But how. do you how do you ground yourself in in. all of it? You have like a morning. routine or anything that you. >> No, it's get shot out of a cannon, three. kids, dog, wife, chaos. That's the morning routine. Everybody. Everybody expects to say you wake up at. 3:00 a.m. and you're all disciplined and. all this stuff. It's just cra it's just. chaos. Um, but no, it's more I'm I'm. just focused on the story, just being. the best author that I can possibly be. And uh there are more distractions these.

days. There are definitely more asks. coming in as you guys know, >> which is good. >> Uh which is great. >> We want those to problem. >> We want those to continue. >> That is true. That is true. So it's uh. it's it's go go go. It's about improving. as a as an author, improving uh in this. profession and always honoring the. story. And if I honor the story and not. worry about any of this other outside. stuff, meaning uh oh, am I going to. upset somebody if I say this or is. someone not going to buy the book now or. do people like shorter chapters or. whatever else or I need to grab a. headline? I think of none of that. It is.

all about the story. And if I do that, if I focus on the story, then I'm. honoring that reader and that listener. who's spending time with me, then. they're never going to get back. So, it's it's solely focused on making the. best story that I possibly can. >> That's the process, right? That's. trusting a process and that's obviously. big football thing. It's big sports. thing. Massive military mindset as well, right? You do the work here and then it. will show up whenever we go later, especially special forces. >> Oh, absolutely. When you put in that. time, put in that mat time. Put in that. time on the mat. It's the same. It's the. same thing. So, all the books up to this. point, that's Matt time. Next one, same. thing. I'm improving. I'm getting. better. Um, but it's about being as. prepared as you possibly can be. When.

that call comes, then you go to war. So, the job of the military isn't to go to. war. It's to be prepared to go to war. And I always kept that at the forefront. of my mind and focused on the guys, too. Focusing on that team. uh rather than. the mission. People just repeat uh focus. on the mission, mission first, mission. first, mission first maybe. But I think. you just repeat that over and over. again. It just becomes something that. you say, but if you focus on the guys. and take care of those guys, then that. mission is going to get accomplished by. default. So, I always focused on those. guys and it's uh something I haven't. really heard from anybody else. And when. I was in, I didn't really talk about it. because everyone's like, "Oh, mission.

first." But you focus on those guys, you. take care of them, they're going to. crush it for you down range. >> The boys are the culture. You take care. of the little things, the big things. take care of themselves. That's very. much process driven. That is uh God. Do. you think about running for president? Yeah, >> that's an easy uh question to answer. Absolutely not. That seems like the worst job ever. I. mean, maybe back in the like the ' 60s, '7s, '8s, something like that. But. today, oh my gosh, wow, what an awful. position to be in. >> And remind me, were you a big uh good. swimmer in high school before you. joined? >> I was okay. I was okay. I was definitely. a better runner than I was a swimmer. And you do a weird stroke in Buds for.

those who have ever seen. It's this. combat side. >> So, that's what I was about to say. We. now know what Buds is because of all the. documentaries and everything you guys. have been through. Obviously, we didn't. experience it and none of us could that. haven't and we'd ring the bell quickly. over there if we were to do it. But the. water [ __ ] seems to be the scariest. I I. mean, for me, as somebody that uh not. the greatest swimmer, you know, uh last. we all have our jokes, potentially end. up in jail, I would have never chosen to. swim. I I'm not good in water. But that. feels like the scariest part of Buds for.

you whenever you're. >> I don't know if it was the scariest part. for I was very comfortable in the water. But uh if you could be the the greatest. guy, you have that that mindset, the. mental fortitude, we're looking for that. mental courage, that uh physical. courage, all those things we're looking. for, the team ability, make it all the. way through hell week, get to the second. phase, which is dive phase, and that's. where we want to really see if you're. comfortable in the water, get to pool. comp, and then you have to say goodbye. to some really good guys because they. are just not comfortable. >> That eliminates, it's crazy. >> I assume that he's a great eliminator. there. Okay, we're going to flip you. upside down in this pool. You're not. going to be able to get out and you're. going to be blindfolded. You do that,

smash them up against the the bottom of. of the pool, hit them in the ribs a. couple times, they exhale their some. air, pull the the regulator out of the. mouth, and it's the old school one that. comes around like this. You can tie it. in a tie it in a knot and then uh see. how you then you take a bre you you just. calm yourself and go through the. procedures to get going again. And then. you get hit again. It's about 15 minutes. worth of that on the bottom of the pool. until the instructors are like, "Yeah, uh this guy's comfortable. Bring in the. next one.". >> That is literally the Let's see if this. guy's got the cut of the tube or not. >> That's not hell week. >> Yeah. That's after hell week. Yeah.

>> Yeah. Made it through week. We got a lot. of respect for you guys. Now, >> bottom of this beat the [ __ ] out of you. down there. >> Boom. Punch him in the ribs a couple. times. Let's make sure we get that air. out of you, man. Yeah. We want you to. feel like you are drowning. You are. drowning. By the way, we see if you can. make. >> I love that part cuz that's the only. time in Buds it's like you against the. instructor. The rest of the time you're. just getting yelled at and you're doing. push-ups and sit-ups. You're being told. you're the worst worst uh recruit ever. Like that sort of a thing. Uh but pool. comp it's like okay now it's you and me. Same thing with a thing called life. saving. They have the instructors out in. the pool and they're each uh doing. something different. Like one's being uh.

aggressive and fighting you, another. one's just dead weight and they're. different body shapes and all that. stuff. You got to swim out and bring. them back. But that's also another time. where you get to put your hands on an. instructor and it's like, "All right, let's go. Let's go." So, so those are. very few and far between those times. when you get to do something like that. in Buds and I love those. >> I don't know if you know this. I played. a drill instructor in a movie. Did you. hear about. >> I heard about Yeah. It's It's a mosquito. bowl, right? >> Yeah. >> Oh, Pete Berg is doing that. I love. Pete. He's awesome. He came up to the. house, played ping pong with my with my. youngest. He's great. >> What a legend. Obviously an incredible. storyteller. He loves the military. Obviously does a lot of war movies.

Getting a chance to be the drill. instructor. I went down to Paris Island. Uh got a chance to watch him for a few. days. >> What a wild life. I mean we're talking. about 3 hours of sleep and also we are. the example of what the greatest could. look like. And we are on ass all day. every day. Incredible talkers as well. I. mean, the way you got to put words. together to tell people they are the. [ __ ] worst, but also we need them is. uh it was quite an honor, man. It was uh. I know obviously Marines is under the. Navy and everything like that. You guys.

have a relationship and I've never been. out to Buds and what you guys do in San. Diego and wherever else that happens at, but going through Paris Island, just the. amount of resp just the the level of. just respect obviously is heightened. even more so once you see it in person. >> Oh, it's amazing. Pete sent me some. pictures from set and uh it looks. awesome that movie. But uh there's. something in us I think between let's. say age like 10 and and 18 somewhere in. there because uh we used to have to. prove ourselves to the community to the. tribe uh to your family to show you. could provide value. And otherwise your.

tribe your community wasn't going to. last much longer. And that's still in us. and Marine boot camp in particular is. something that draws young men to both. test themselves and to prove that they. can add value to this country. And uh. and and that's one that uh that that I. think high school in particular these. days that is the calling. Marine boot. camp like okay Paris Island I am going. and there's such history right there but. there's a calling I think inside all of. us uh to test ourselves somehow and uh. Marine Corps boot camp is really the. it's a crucible. >> Oh brother the crucible is the end of.

that thing and uh that's actually the. final test that they have to go through. It's like a 4 day three-day process. where obviously they're not sleeping. you got to get through the entire thing. and it's uh. >> it was an honor to be down there and see. and then obviously the yellow footsteps. uh and the history and Mike and the it. was just it was really cool. It was an. honor to be a part of your guys' world. for a tiny little portion and uh yeah. I'll be excited to see your thoughts on. me as that. I think I did pretty. >> I saw the pictures. It looks good. It. looks. >> I shaved my shave my face now because. >> yeah I started shaving my face. Oh yeah,

>> they shaved it on set there. First time. like in my life that uh. >> I mean I guess it's like the third time. that I've shaved my face. One time. >> you're going to do a good. >> one time was for a Vince McMahon. >> I was going to be Vince McMahon on WWE. on a throwback night. Nice. >> Okay. They were having this entire. thing. I get there. It was during co I. get down there and they're like, "Hey, we're doing a throwback night. Everybody. is going to act like somebody. Uh we. wonder if you would be Vince McMahon. Vince McMahon is there." Okay. I'm like, "Absolutely. Holy hell. I'm just going. to yell the entire night at people and. just I'm going to be Mr. McMahon the.

entire time. So I they shave my face the. whole thing. Uh Michael Cole is looking. like an [ __ ] dressed like himself. from back in the day that we shoot. something. >> Baby blue talk. >> Then obviously Yeah. The baby blue talks. the whole thing and they just m hour. before show starts. Nope. We're not. doing it. Everything's canned. It's like. >> I shave my face. >> I shave my face with this. Yeah. It's. good. Yeah. So then I grow my hair back. immediately after that because my face. is obviously not one that should be like. that. When I'm Irish, when I get fat, it. all comes right here. So I put the beard. on there. So doing this thing, I shave. my face. I try to do it. I make my bed. in the morning. Hey, I'm waking up.

early. I'm a 5 a.m. now. I mean, it is. it has changed my Yeah, it's changed my. entire life just witnessing the. greatness uh that you guys have in the. military. It has changed me completely. Yeah, I'm trying my best. >> Some of that stuff didn't take with me. Like the making of the bed and the. getting up early part like those things. didn't take. I feel that my act of. rebellion though, a little bit of act of. rebellion is uh by not letting some of. the things. >> And on my note, I wasn't you like yelled. at to do it, you know, when I was a. thought. >> Yeah. When I played soccer, when I. played soccer, they would make us run as.

a penalty. >> Mhm. >> So, as an older lad, though, >> yeah, man, >> you won't see me running. It's like, nope, not doing that. Every time I was. told to run, it was a bad time. So, I. think mentally that kind of affected us. that played football, soccer, I think. plenty of other sports. So, making the. bed, you. >> 18-year-old, 19-year-old, >> this [ __ ] needs to be tight. I can see. how you as an adult go, I'm never doing. that. >> Exactly. Never doing that. >> AJ has the last question for you from. Ohio, Jack. >> Yeah. Jack, what is honestly I know we. always ask you this, but what does the. future look like? You are you going to. stay in this realm of you you think. about like you know branching out.

possibly writing like a romcom possibly. something that maybe uh like my mom used. to always read those books with the. weird covers when I was growing up like. a novel where you know it's like a. romantic situation. >> nolla. >> those uh those sell really well. So uh. so I consider it for half a second but. no I think I'm going to stay with what. I'm doing right now. I very deliberately. in the early novels introduced. characters that I would find interesting. that I think readers would find. interesting and that would uh uh would. be able to write books on their own. And. so this is the first one, Cry Havoc, the. dad, but also the grandfather, World War.

II, post World War II, the Hastings. family in Rhdesia. So, three generations. there to explore. So, I have all that. And then I have some other projects here. outside the terminalist universe out. there. A couple in Hollywood, a couple. in publishing and the uh the next. non-fiction. I go right from book tour. into some research for that. and that. one will get announced here in the next. few months. But uh always uh always. working, always expanding. Always want. to expand that readership because really. today readers have dropped off and it's. not making anybody better when they're. sitting on their phone instead of. opening a book. And really today an act. of rebellion like we talked about being.

a rebel is uh is reading uh and uh a a. to to to rebel against the digital. tyranny that's out there that's. affecting everybody, but particularly uh. young people in uh junior high, high. school, those very formative years. It's. uh you want to be a rebel today, you. pull out a book instead of the phone. How. >> digital tyranny. I love everything you. just said right there. The way you. describe that. Uh before we let you go, Jack, we'd like you to pick tonight's. game. Okay. >> Giants are hosting the Eagles. The. Eagles, okay, just lost their first game. of the season against the Denver.

Broncos. They lost the fourth quarter of. that game 18 zip. Kind of just gave the. game away. Not normal for them. They're. currently the Super Bowl champs. So, there's a chance that with four-day. break, they could come back and really. just want to beat that ass. This would. be a good team to potentially beat that. ass of. They're 1 and4. Okay, they just. lost to the Saints. Quarterback for the. Saints. Spencer Rattler, he has started. 11 games. His only win was against the. Giants on Sunday. So, both teams kind of. have a little bit of uh want to get a. bad taste out of their mouth. 7 and 12. points the Eagles are favored by. So,

that means at the beginning of this. game, it is -7 1.5 to zero. The Giants. are in the lead. I don't know how much. you know about sports gambling. Who do. you think wins and who do you think. covers? I'm gonna go with the uh the. Giants here because they're uh I like. the under I like the underdog story. So. even if it's by a degree, you know, I'm. gonna go I'm gonna go for them. >> Do you know the quarterback at all? >> I do not. >> You would love the quarterback. And then. the running back, Scataboo, you would. love the running. We got a lot of mocks. here. Quarterback and running back. Tough guy. >> Nice. I like it. Then. >> running back kind of undersized head. though the size of very big guy. And he.

will run through somebody's face. The. running back. He's a rookie. Yeah, he's. great. >> I love it. I remember back in the day. just playing uh playing football in the. mud and Marcus Allen going over the top. when we were little kids, you know, doing that. You know, a smaller guy, always practicing that, going over the. top. >> Okay. Space flies around Jack. Okay, so. you have the New York Giants plus seven. and a half. Let's do it. >> AJ Hawk has the New York Giants plus 7. and a half. And then I have the Eagles. at minus 7 cuz there is a little better. line somewhere else for me on the other. side. I think Nick Serriani is a good. leader. I think he has a great team. I.

think they got embarrassed. I think. they're going to improve it. And on that. note, the complete opposite could happen. to him. >> with the air at the Giants. That's why. football is greatest. And so is. >> Cry Havoc, the latest from the legend. that is Jack Carr. Now, not only is he a. New York Times bestseller, but he's also. a series creator that is award-winning. Not just one of them, multiple. And then. movies are going to follow suit. And. whenever this guy dabbles in. non-fiction, go ahead and take a seat. and learn something you need to know. This Jack Carr brain is a special one. and it's on display in the Vietnam.

version in Cry Havoc available now. >> Man, that was good. I feel like I really. [ __ ] hit that one. >> You did. I feel like you really knocked. that out of the That's probably the best. LINE YOU SAID TODAY. >> OKAY. I SAID A LOT OF lines today. Amazing. >> But it felt good, you know, cuz we do. move some books here. >> Oh, yeah. You guys are awesome. >> We had a book club here for multiple. years. It was uh if you go just strictly. off of people that purchase shirts, the. Aaron Rogers book club. I think we are. the second largest book club in America. Obviously Oprah had hers. We had. multiple I think we had like four or.

five thousand people a part of our book. club. So a lot of people assume because. we are a I am I'll speak for myself. >> a bit of a [ __ ] that we would not. have a lot of book readers that watch. But I think I think we do. And I think. this one is going to be one that our. people are going to love. >> How cool the back looks. >> Thank you. Oh hey, LOOK AT THAT. >> OH [ __ ]. >> OH [ __ ] LOOK AT THE STAKES. >> OH BOY. IS THAT. >> IS THAT BRAD COOP? NO, that's not. Bradley Cooper. >> You might recognize him from episode. four in the tunnel sequence. I got.

stitched up the side in this one and go. down. Got a little stunt man pay which. was pretty cool. >> I did not. >> And you got indented. You get shot in. the head in the first one. >> Shot in the first one. Got a little. shoot out with Chris Pratt. Exactly. This time I got out of a car. So first. time I don't get out of the car. Had. that shootout with Chris Pratt. But I. had to tell him ahead of time. I said if. this was going to go down in real life. it would end up a little different. Just. want to make sure we're clear about. that. >> Just so I understand this is uh acting. >> real life. I take that thing. You got. two in your forehead before you even get. to me. Uh. >> yeah, we filmed the one for True. Believer, too, for the next one. That.

one's probably my best death sequence. yet. >> I don't love seeing you die all the. time. But I do appreciate it. Means. you're celebrating another successful. story being told. Uh congrats to you. Thank you for stopping by. Tonight's a. big one, AJ. Hopefully you, Jack, and. the Giants fans have something to. celebrate. And that's just keeping it. within seven and a half. >> That's right. >> We don't even need to win. Let's just. keep this thing close against the Eagles. and maybe we'll have some hope. Is that. accurate, Bruce? >> Yeah. I mean, I'm pretty sick of the. moral victories, but I would certainly. take a cover tonight after what the.

Yankees did last night. >> Well, what about also not just the. Yankees? Come on. Let's make sure we. fully tell the story here. The Knicks. had Giannis, chose not to. They did. >> Rangers could have started the season a. little better. They lose three nothing. to a to a team that's literally. allegedly uh washed and the coach stuck. can't even speak. And you talk about the. Jets worst of all time. Islanders, I. guess, have a chance to maybe make some. things right for the entire area, but. they're on Long Island. They're not even. considered out there. So, all sports. bad. Tonight could be good for you is. what you're saying. >> Mets also missed missed the playoffs.

after paying Juan $750 million. >> Ryan Kings off Broadway. >> It's dark days. It's dark days. I I. don't think we have to drag the Knicks. into this. They haven't even lost the. game yet. But um. >> could have had you on if you lost your. lost Greek freak. Liberty got bounced. from the playoffs. >> Speaking of the Aces are looking to. sweep the Mercury in the WNBA finals. Asia Wilson goes for 34 points last. night. I forget what it is. And makes. them uh puts them up 3 against the. Mercury. Ishbia's team over there in.

Phoenix obviously got a $100 million. practice facility built up within the. last couple years. Obviously, they're in. the finals. It's all working, but the. Aces are just saying this is our league. It will be until further notice. They're. up through there. That could be a clean. sweep, AJ. That could be a clean sweep. in the finals. >> We'll see. We'll see if uh if what. Phoenix can can find a way to make this. thing a series, right? >> Yeah. We will see. We will see. >> Well said. Thank you. >> Thank you. We will. >> I did watch that that last play was. amazing when she hit that game winner. Yeah. When Asia hit.

>> Asia is unbeliev I was watching this. real time. >> Asia is legitimately unbelievable. Now, on that note, we were certainly saying. that Caitlyn Clark was going to become. the best in the league. Asia said, "I. don't think so. I'm uh I'm 7 in taller. than Caitlyn, and I can go to work." And. this A's team, they're used to being at. the top. Now, they traded away Kelsey. Plum. Didn't know if they're going to be. able to get back there. They are. Congrats to them. If Phoenix can come. back being down 3 0, you're talking. about one of the greatest comebacks. Maybe chokes of all time potentially. >> Rushmore X available now at Rushmore on. X. Uh we're going to get out of here. A.

lot of travel. >> Lot of travel. >> Lot of travel. >> Lot of travel. Safe travels. >> We'll be back tomorrow. You're right. Safe travels. We'll be back tomorrow. We. can't thank you enough for allowing us. to do this for a living. You're the. greatest people on earth. Be a friend. Tell a friend something nice. It might. change our life. BUY THIS BOOK. IT'S. AVAILABLE NOW. Cry Havoc by Jack Carr. Team on me. >> Jack, you got anything to say to the. team here? >> Oh man, you guys keep crushing and. firing everybody up. It's bigger than. you guys and you guys are the freaking. best. >> Boom. >> Thank you. >> That's amazing. >> YES. >> GOD DAMN. I NEEDED THAT. >> KEEP YOUR HAND UP THOUGH. Strengthen it.

on. Strength on. Keep your hand up. Keep. your hand up. All right, team on three. One, two, three. Goodbye.