The Pat McAfee Show Live | Thursday October 30th 2025

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Hello, beautiful people, and welcome to our [music]. spooky humble abode, the Thunderdome, on. this NFL week 9 kickoff [music]. Thursday, October 30th, 2025. THIS. PROGRAM BEGINS NOW. FOOTBALL. >> IT IS SPOOKY, THOUGH. And football kicks. off week 9 of its NFL season this. evening as the Baltimore Ravens with. Lamar Jackson back at quarterback go. down to his hometown of Miami to take on.

the Dolphins as 7 and 1/2 point. favorites. Now, Lamar Jackson spoke very. candidly this week about kicking all the. [ __ ] out of the locker room. Okay, if we're winning, maybe it's not a. problem. We're losing, we need to lock. in a little bit more. He was doing that. whenever he wasn't even playing. Now, remember, had a hamstring injury a. couple weeks back. Everybody saw him on. the sideline not going in the game. They. thought, Lamar Jackson, this guy quit on. the team. THIS GUY THIS GUY QUIT ON THE. TEAM. TURNS OUT THAT ENDED up being. about a month-long hamstring injury, including a bye week and then a missed. game post that. Now, he's back on a.

Thursday night in Miami in a must-win. game for this Baltimore Ravens team. And. everybody thinks that they're going to. must-win and will win. Uh the. sportsbooks still have the Baltimore. Ravens as the favorites to win the AFC. North, even though they're two and five. or whatever the hell it is at this. point. But, they're going to rattle off. a bunch of wins, what the sportsbooks. think. And the reason is because Lamar. Jackson is special, and maybe the. defense has figured out how to play. football. Patrick Ricard being back for. the Baltimore Ravens at fullback is a. massive ordeal for the way they operate. as well. Will tonight just be an. absolute clobbering of the Miami.

Dolphins? Let's go to one half OF THE. HAMMER, TODD. COWBOYS AT BUBBA GUMP YOU. KNOW, HE wore his full Dolphins costume. today. This is not Halloween. This is. victory Gumpy heading into a primetime. matchup against Lamar Jackson and the. Baltimore Ravens. Last week, you guys. played the best game you guys have. played in a long, long time. Vibes. obviously immaculate. Can't enjoy an. entire victory week, you know, cuz the. game's on Thursday, not on Sunday. You. got four good days of celebration here. What did you see from the boys last week. against the Falcons that make you think,

you know what? Why not the Miami. Dolphins going forward? And how do you. like your chances against the Baltimore. Ravens, old Gumpsch? >> All season we couldn't stop the run, and. we couldn't run the football. Last week. we did both at a very high level. Got to. keep doing that. Let me tell you about the last time the. Ravens came into Miami on Thursday. night. >> Ooh. They were about 12 and 1/2 point. favorites. Everyone said we were going. to get crushed. Boys are going to get it done tonight. Uh we're riding this momentum. The Fins. are going right now. That was the best. game I've seen them play all three.

phases last week in a long, long time. >> All right. Well, thanks for telling us. about it. You know, we we do appreciate. you telling us all about what the. Dolphins did last time against the. Baltimore Ravens on Thursday night. Feels different just strictly because of. Lamar Jackson being back and the vibes. and kind of the culture with the. Baltimore Ravens are currently at. Obviously, a lot of people in Baltimore, and I don't want to speak for the entire. fan base, but it feels like Harbaugh's. potentially on. you know, hey, hey, we got to win. And Lamar Jackson seemingly with the. rest of the locker room and the culture, hey, hey,

we got to win. And on defensive side, it's hey, hey, are we playing Baltimore. Ravens football or not over here? I. couldn't even imagine the conversations. that have taken place behind closed. doors over there with the amount of. outside pressure that could be creeping. into that entire beautiful castle they. got over there as a practice facility. But, tonight's a huge one in primetime. on Amazon Prime with Kirk and Al and. Kaylee Hartung on the call, Carissa. Thompson, Richard Sherman, who? Don't. look now, I think he's going to be in. studio here soon.

I I do believe Richard Sherman's coming. through the Thunderdome. Shout out the. Fits and Whit and then Tony Gonzalez as. well. They got a great show, and I think. tonight is going to provide a lot of. opportunity. They're going to be down in. Miami. SUPPOSED TO BE 80°. CLEAR SKIES DOWN IN MIAMI. THE TOXIC. TABLE'S here at Boston Connor at Ty. Schmit. Feels like we're going to have a. good game tonight. >> Oh, yeah. I'm so excited to see Lamar. again. It's one of those things you kind. of forget about, especially when he, you. know, misses games, Ravens have a slow. start, and then you forget what Lamar. can do. And you mentioned Patrick. Ricard. AQ Shipley came in here.

yesterday bitching and moaning about his. skeleton, but also about the fact that. the Ravens now with Patrick Ricard has. completely changed their entire team. But, I'll tell you what about Gumpy's. point. You know, you go one and five to. three and five in six days, all of a. sudden those Miami Dolphins do look do. look like they're building something. cuz, you know, they beat the Atlanta. Falcons and, you know, Kirk Cousins, but. that defense is very good, and they they. hung 30 on them. So, all of a sudden, hold on. Miami might might be up to. something as well. >> And Baltimore's defense, obviously, has.

not been performing that fantastically, which is very abnormal for the Baltimore. Ravens as a whole. And you look at the. records, you you don't have a lot of. wins at the top of this thing. Okay, you. you don't have a lot of wins. Two and. five, two and six. Thursday night prime. time, the NFL fresh off its biggest ass. weekend in 55 years. Now, we got this. crap on Thursday night. It's how you. could view that only look at the record. If you only look at the record of. >> Sure. Okay, if you only look at two and. five, two and six. So, you'll do that, though. No, you got to be deeper than. that. >> Yeah. You got to have some depth. You. got to have culture. Which is why I.

can't wait to show you one half of the. hammer, Dan Cowboys. What's the line. saying about tonight in your eyes? What's the percentage of money on who? Ladies and gentlemen, brand new AP. model, Tone. >> Yeah, we're cooking up something for. tomorrow for Hallow's Eve. So, we got to. get in the spirit. But for tonight, seven and a half across the board, the. Ravens are the favorites on the road. 68% of the money is on the Ravens. If that was earlier in the season when.

it was just a historically bad sign if. the public money was over 60% on you, but this last week it went five and six. If if you 60 plus percent of the bets, five and six last week, the teams were. the Chiefs on Monday night football were. getting 69% and they and they absolutely. blew them out. So, I don't know if. that's a bad thing anymore. Ravens. tonight at Dolphins seven and a half. >> Okay, so obviously everybody's going to. love the Ravens here. Cuz Lamar. Jackson's back. >> Yeah. Okay, that's what you got. And. also, what what do we think of whenever. we think of Miami? We think of McDaniel.

walking down that tunnel with his little. off-white shoe tags, just kind of. bopping around while he's going up. We. love McDaniel. He was awesome for. football. He is still awesome for. football. And obviously, his brain is. kind of all over the NFL right now with. the motions and the shifts and how much. he changed and transformed what defenses. have to do pre-snap, during snap, and. immediately after snap. He was really an. innovator. I I think everybody would. say, which is why he is and was and. became the head coach for the Miami.

Dolphins. But boy, it was a lot more fun. when they were good. Yeah. You know, the. McDaniel experience was a lot more fun. whenever they were good. Hopefully, maybe prime time we get the battle of. the best here. Lamar at his best, McDaniel and Tua at their best. Is he. have a visor on tonight? Do we know if. Tua's wearing a visor like he was on. Sunday? Running it back with the visor. One and oh with the visor, he said. I'm. doing it. Boys want me to keep wearing. it, I'm going to keep doing it. >> That's very smart. Okay, yeah, Ty, last. night World Series felt like. we're talking about Canada's baseball. team maybe handling the 18-inning game a.

lot better than the Dodgers. Is that. what we're seeing on the field? Yeah, it. certainly looks like that. Dodgers still. look a little bit sleepy. The Blue Jays. look like they got a lot of juice. First. pitch of the game. First pitch of the. game, Davis Schneider lead-off homer off. Blake Snell. That's okay, though. That. happens sometimes. Boom, third pitch of. the game, Vladi Guerrero lines one into. the Dodgers bullpen. >> JEEZ, THAT'S A POT OF POT. YEAH, I MEAN, THE literally the worst start. imaginable. Couldn't couldn't I guess. two Yeah, two homers in two pitches.

maybe you could you could argue would be. worse, but same deal. But then the the. real story of the game is after that, Blue Jays rookie pitcher Trey is Savage. He set a bunch of records last night, just absolutely dominated the Dodgers. He he threw seven innings, three hits, one earned run. He did give up a homer. early and then settled down after that. 12 strikeouts. >> Jeez. That's the big thing. He is the. first pitcher in World Series history to. have a 12-strikeout, zero-walk game. And.

he also set the World Series rookie. record for strikeouts in a game with 12. That is a record that has stood since. 1949. Those are stats. and bows. This guy's unbelievable. Just, you know, another kind of a fun stat. here. Trey is Savage. He So, he made his. debut on September 15th. So, he he has. not been in the big leagues for very. long at all. His base salary this year. is $760,000. On the other side, Blake Snell, who, you. know, big free agent signing for the. Dodgers,

his base salary this year is $26. million. So, they're they're not. expecting this guy to do this and he has. one of the best performances in the. history of the World Series. Blue Jays. win 6-1 and now they're going back to. Toronto with a 3-2 lead. Did you say $26. million on loser? Yeah, exactly. Jeez. [laughter]. That's 53 million on loser down there in. the Bayou. Now, Governor Jeff Landry, obviously, went. very viral and became a mega subject of. conversation due to a press conference. where he chitchatted about the future of.

the LSU head coaching vacancy. The first question is absolutely. correct. We are not going down a failed. path. And I wanted to tell you something. This is a pattern. Okay. The guy that's here now that wrote that. contract. cost Texas A&M 70-something million. dollars. Right now, we got a $53 million. liability. We are not doing that again. And you know what? I believe I believe. that we're going to find a great coach.

I mean, maybe we'll let President Trump. pick it. He loves winners. You know? I'm. not going to be picking the next coach. But I can promise you we're going to. pick a coach. and we're going to make sure that they. coach is successful. And we're going to. make sure that he's compensated properly. and we're going to put metrics on it. Because I'm tired of rewarding failure. in this country. And then leaving the taxpayers on the. foot you know, the the foot the bill. So, yeah, I absolutely. Who's that? Scott Woodward.

No. I can tell you right now, Scott. Woodward is not selecting the next. coach. Hell, I'd let Donald Trump select. it before I let him do it. I don't know, but the board of. supervisors is going to come up with a. committee and they're going to go find. us a coach. Cuz wait wait wait, I want to hold on. hold on. One real quick thing on that. Because here's what y'all reporters need. to do. Y'all need to start looking. at who represents all these people. Like these agents. You know what's. interesting? If I'm not mistaken, what is agent. Kelly's agent, the Texas A&M They all. have the same agent.

Like you realize if I would be I don't. know how y'all How many sports writers. we got here today? I don't know. Just you? We should have a. bunch. Okay? Like this is ridiculous. Lawyers would be disbarred for the way. these agents act and the way they're. able to represent. They In fact, they. may There's no doubt they may even. represent some of the players now. Like it's really time for the NCAA to. put on some guardrails. in college sports. Because. it it's fine. We don't need the. guardrails. If big billionaires want to.

spend all that kind of money, no. problem. But if I got to go find $53. million from Cam, it's not going to be a. pleasant conversation. I'm just telling you. I'm like I know. And I think that that's important as. well. Y'all should start looking into. that. Ladies and gentlemen, said Governor JEFF LANDRY. OH, YOU GOVERNOR LANDRY, YOU REALLY. STIRRED THE POT here today, Governor. You really stirred the pot. It's ridiculous. It really is, Pat. And. thank you for having me this morning.

You know, you know the sad part is. there's two groups of people that seem. to not be we're not talking about in. this equation. One, it's the players. It's the great players that we brought. to LSU and the great players that are. LSU Tigers right now and that have to. operate under all of this chaos. And I. tell you, I look, I feel for them. I. really really do. We want to make sure. that those boys get back on the field. We want them playing football for. for the love of the game. And then the. second group is the fans. Because the. thing that really started us off was was.

Saturday night after the Texas A&M lost, I'm laying in bed and I'm like, "Ah, this is a mess." Telling my wife, cuz. the worst time for the Louisiana. governor is when LSU football team is. losing, okay? It's a bad day for me or. whoever the governor is. And she says, "Do you know the board of supervisors. raised the ticket prices on Friday?" I. was like, "What?" "Yeah, for next year.". So, I'm like, "No, we're not doing. that." Because when Phil's Tiger. Stadiums are not billionaires. When. Phil's Tiger Stadiums are nurses, plant. workers, welders, fitters, truck.

drivers, those are the people that go to. Tiger Stadium to be entertained, to. watch a great game of football. And we. should not be piling all of these. millions upon millions upon tens of. millions of dollars of contracts on the. backs of them. Okay, so Governor, thank. you for saying that and I think your. fans will be appreciative of that. College football fans will be. appreciative of that. And thank you for. your time. Let's kind of get into this a. little bit more with everything you you. just said and then you said at your. press conference. So, the governor runs. the state schools. Is that accurate? So, ultimately, you are boss at LSU. Is that.

a Is that a fair assessment? Cuz I don't. know that this is a legitimate question. whenever I say this. Yeah, so so we've got a number of. four-year universities in the state of. Louisiana and each. LSU has their own board. It's called the. board of supervisors. It's appointed by. the governor under staggered terms. So, really, I'm the one that appoints them. They then appoint the president and the. AD and and the decisions that are made. at the university are really made by the. board, but they're appointees that. represent me. That's pretty much the.

same way I think it happens around the. state around the country. I know that's. how it happens in Texas as well. The. governor's in charge of appointing the. board of regents of, say, A&M and UT. Okay, so you have the board of. supervisors there at LSU. You said in your press conference that. they will either find a committee to. find the coach or they will select the. coach. In that entire process, are you. in there at all? Because I think people. are saying cuz you said in there, "I'm. not picking a coach." You said, "I'm not. picking a coach, but other people will. pick the coach." I'm not. What Now, do.

you feel though that immediately upon. you speaking about it, everybody thinks. to themselves, "Governor Landry wants to. pick the coach." That is That is kind of. what people get worried about. That is. not what you were saying at all, right? No. Listen, emphatically, [clears throat]. I am not picking the coach. That is not. my job. The only reason I'm really. involved, Pat, is because this contract. that currently is between the state of. Louisiana, the Louisiana State. University System, and Brian Kelly. leaves the taxpayers of the state on the. bill. There's misinformation out there.

People are saying, "Oh, no, the. taxpayers aren't liable." They're not. reading the contract. On Sunday, I had a. meeting with the lawyers as they were. talking about whether or not Brian Kelly. was terminated, whether we were going to. fire him, and all I cared about were the. taxpayers of our state, and that. contract binds the state of Louisiana. If we have to pay $53 million, and somebody else doesn't step up to. foot that bill, the state of Louisiana. has to foot that bill. That is in the. contract. Okay, so on that note, as you. know now, I assume you were told this,

Texas A&M's coach, uh, Jimbo has a agent, and Brian Kelly. has an agent. Now, I think Brian Kelly's. agent potentially also works with Scott. Woodward. Let's talk about that, the. athletic director, cuz you would assume. that most places, uh, the athletic director would be the. one that's picking the coach. You. emphatically saying, "Absolutely not.". Is it because the contract and what you. learned about what he had done in the. past, or is it strictly because we can't. have a situation look like this again. with the $53 million cuz I think a lot. of people have said, "Scott's the.

athletic director for a reason. You're. going to have people that aren't in. athletics now making an athletics. decision." Do you view it that way, and. why do you think that is kind of, uh, how it's going to go? I Look, let's unpack that. Let's talk. about Num- Number one, there's a number. of bad contracts that seem to have. followed Scott Woodward, okay? Number. two, his agent and Brian Kelly's agent. are the same agent. That's a something. else that's misinformation out there. I. believe that Armstrong represents them. both. I don't even know if Armstrong.

represents some of our players. In In. the legal profession, that is called a. conflict of interest. How can I trust my. athletic director who whose agent also. represents some of the candidates that. are out there? You would think that if I. If the Board of Supervisors gave. Woodward a list of five coaches that are. looking to come to LSU, and three or two. or one of those coaches is the same. agent that he has, who do you think's. going to make that list? That is a. problem in college sports. Look, I In.

the NFL, those agents are capped at 3%. I think. in the MLB, they are. In the NCAA, there's no cap, and these are kids that. we're dealing with. These are young. people. I. Pat, [clears throat] it's time for the. NCAA to start putting some guardrails. around all this money. They are ruining. one of the best sports Yes. in America. No, >> Okay. I mean, they love College Football. is the quintessential. of football in America. And there's no. guardrails. I love that you are the.

Louisiana governor, and you love college. football. Feels like that should be a. prerequisite. Feels like that probably. should be in a lot of those states down. there in the SEC because, you know, it. is different down there with how you're. raised and the Every place is a cult. I. mean, that is just That is literally how. it is down there because there's no. professional sports. What you were. saying about the guardrails for all this. money, you know, that is something that. I think everybody that is involved with. college football says, "Yes, we need. that. We need that." But they all say. DC needs to do something. You guys are.

saying the NCAA, but everybody that's in. the sport says, "We need DC to put some. federal ruling into this thing if we. actually wanted it to make it work.". Will this be something that maybe. Governor Jeff Landry maybe takes on and. maybe maybe maybe takes on with the back. pocket? What do you Well, look, I Look, I'm. hoping that we can create a contract. with a great coach who at LSU that can. be the template. Maybe that's what needs. to break in order for somebody to come. over here and say, "Listen, we're going. to start building contracts based on. performance based." I have no problem. compensating these coaches even at the.

level that we're talking about as long. as we're winning. The problem with the. NCAA and Congress Look, I've been in. Congress. Look, politicians love to kick. the can down the road. It makes me a. little difference. I don't like it. I. like to step on a can. I like to solve. the problem. But maybe the NCAA and. Congress should hold a meeting and say, "Okay, who's in charge here?" But the. NCAA could absolutely. There's no reason that they cannot step. in and create the guardrails. They got. great lawyers. They pay them a lot of. money, okay? Look through the federal.

guidelines. Look at what the Supreme. Court says, and come up with some. guardrails. Huh? Somebody just has to. step up. Yeah, somebody has to step on a. can, you know, instead of cans kind of. going back and forth here. And if we. know anything about both parties, just. as somebody that's not, uh, been. involved in DC or in the NCAA, outside. looking in, not a lot of hope in either. of these. But I mean, done, but. hopefully that that could be different. Hopefully that could be different, Governor Jeff Landry. We can hope that's. the case. Last question here. Uh, you just talked about You're not, uh, worried about paying a guy, uh, or a.

woman or a coach, whoever you hire, uh, an amount of money if they're winning. I. would like to let you know, and you. probably know this, the guy that did the. Texas A&M deal, that agent over there, he reps a lot of coaches. He's got a lot. of coaches. I think couple of coaches. that you probably won't down there at. Baton Rouge are going to be in there. When you say setting the template, what. do you mean by that? On Legitimately, what do you mean by that? Well, legitimately, we I think that everyone. is in agreement here in the state of. Louisiana that the next coach that we. hire is going to have a patently. different contract. If that agent can't.

see what's coming down the pipe in a way. that Look, these big-name coaches, they're big names because they win. What. are they afraid of? Right? If you're the. best, you shouldn't have to worry. You. say, "Guess what? I'm putting my. reputation on the line, and when I win, this is how much money I want." There's. no guarantee. This sets it in The way. the contracts are structured now, tells. a guy, "Listen, you know, in 5 years he. might get tired of doing it." He's like, he doesn't have to worry about coaching. cuz he's like, "Look, as long as I kind. of go through the motions, I get another. 5 years at $10 million a year." That's.

not a bad gig, Pat. If y'all boys over. there are giving great entertainment to. ESPN, and we don't get to We don't enjoy. watching y'all, which we absolutely do, guess what happens? You lose sponsors. That's the free market. All right, I appreciate where your. head's at. Yeah. I think you're up. against it, though, Governor. I I I just. want to let you know, I think you're up. against it. I I. I appreciate the fact that you're in a. position, though, to potentially drive. some change in all these things to make. our, uh, sports world even better, but I. think I think it's a freight train. that's already kind of been run away,

Governor. WHAT WHAT WHAT WHAT I KNOW I. KNOW, BUT PAT, LISTEN, every one of you. all, okay? All of the sports. commentators, everyone who's in sports, and even former coaches, have been. consistently saying this. >> And current coaches. >> if it's Current coaches, too. Yes, yes. Everybody's saying Somebody's got to do. it, though, GOVERNOR. YOU SOMEBODY NEEDS. TO KICK HEY, somebody step on a can, Governor. Step on a can. You're the man. >> We're stepping on a can. Hey, we. appreciate you joining us and explaining. yourself a little bit more. It's crazy. that the taxpayers of the state are on. the hook for that contract if somebody.

doesn't pay it. I wonder how normal that. is. That's insane to hear, actually, and. I can see why the governor would be. like, "Ho, ho, this guy. just got to ruin a Saturday in Baton. Rouge. We lose to Texas A&M [laughter]. by by 50. This guy ruins everybody's. life. And then we got to up taxes to pay. Who DID THE CONTRACT?". >> [laughter]. >> YEAH, THAT IS A. THAT IS A HILARIOUS TURN of events. We. appreciate you looking into it. Hopefully you can drive some change to. make sure this sport that you're saying. could potentially be getting ruined.

Ratings are only up and to the right, Governor. Things are only getting. better. Just the back end needs cleaned. up. Good luck out there in your fight on. that and everything else. And also, gator hunt. Good luck out there with the. gator hunt. I Listen, come hunt with us, Pat. Thank. you so much. We love watching y'all. guys. You're the man, ladies and. gentlemen, Governor Jeff Landry. YEAH, GOVERNOR. THAT GUY'S A CHARACTER. THE BEST. That. guy is an absolute character. He He is. just himself. >> Like what he's saying, though. As you. see him is how he is in every room that.

I've seen him in. Gumpy's seen him in a. couple different rooms. We go down to. LSU, uh, obviously. And I say this. again, anytime you can go somewhere with Coach. Saban, you know, when he's maybe won a. national championship there or six of. them. >> Sure. Okay, any of those types of. things, and you can just kind of happen. to just kind of sidecar that thing, you. should do that. And we got to do that at. LSU. You know, I I met some of these. people that are potentially going to. have to step up so the taxpayers don't. have to pay $53 million or whatever the. case is because Coach Saban obviously.

old friends with a lot of the people. there. That's where he Before he goes to. Alabama or before he goes to Miami, he's. at LSU, wins a national championship. there. And then the way they talk about. Governor Jeff Landry. Okay, cuz that was. in the middle of having a live tiger on. the sideline. Okay, so that was a big. conversation. Governor Jeff Landry was. governor, then he was out, and then. Governor Jeff Landry back in, and then. Governor Jeff Landry said, "My. childhood, my Some of my my best moments with my. family were when. when that What's the tiger's name? Mike. Mike. Mike Mike the tiger would roar,

and. the place would go crazy. I want a tiger back on the sideline.". And they're like, "Well, we can't do. that. Obviously we got Mike outside the. stadium in his own sanctuary, but inside. the stadium they said because of the the. loud and everything, they don't like I I. want We want a tiger, though, don't we? Let's get a tiger. And that was. happening the week game day was going. down there. So I literally just learned. of this man's existence, and also a. governor just being like, "I don't care. I want a live tiger.". And then inevitably, live tiger was out. there. Now, there was full conversation.

about how many potential tigers there. were because there was, uh, protests. happening that could have potentially. stopped tigers from getting to sideline. So I I think there was potentially a. situation happening, but Governor Jeff. Landry, the people that I talked to. in Louisiana, and I don't think it. matters what the rest of the country. thinks, what anybody The people that I. talked to, they were talking about Jeff. Landry like, "Hey, Jeff's his own guy, but Jeff gets [ __ ] done." Like that that. is literally what Jeff does, and I think. he takes a lot of pride in the state of. Louisiana. You can hear the way he. talks. You can hear the way he acts. Every single time he talks like that.

And Are we as the rest of the world. going to agree with everything that the. governor of Louisiana has to say or how. he operates? I would doubt it. Louisiana. is its own country. Okay, that is. They're not the only state that's their. own country, but Louisiana is. I mean, we purchased it. I I don't even. I don't even have to go back to the. entirety of it all, but Louisiana is a. special place. It is a dynamic place. It. is a unique place. And it's like I. appreciate the fact that his big thing. was like, "We got to pay for this guy?". As well, he he taking his Mercedes back? I don't think so. All right, that ain't. it. Did they have no consequences for.

the guy that hired him? Yeah. >> Yeah, exactly. Uh well, so. we know the guy that represented Jimbo. out there in Texas A&M. >> Yeah. And we know that he doesn't. represent Brian Kelly. >> No. And uh so whenever he was Look it. up. If I'm mistaken, this guy everywhere. And now this guy is everywhere when they. talk about Jimmy Sexton and the. representing of coaches business and and. who's going where and everything like. that. But he just There was a There was. a moment of clarity in there that had to.

be made like, "Hey, Jimmy ain't. Now, this guy though, he also has got. Nussmeier, I think, allegedly. >> Mhm. The Trace Arm The Trace Armstrong. Yeah, so you're talking about And that's. what he And [laughter] the governor's. reading through his contract, who who. negotiated? This guy got AD, coach, and quarterback? Oh, we're getting had. But also to. [laughter] his point when he said like. he's not making the hire, he's responsible for the two biggest. buyouts ever in college football. history. The AD is. Yes, Woodward. Yeah,

crazy stuff. All right, well, I'm. excited to hear what people say he was. wrong about in that conversation we just. had with him. >> [laughter]. >> And then that goes right to what. Jeopardy said last night. Uh. which I guess, you know, this all kind. of came together within the last 25. minutes and we didn't piece it together. But uh I I've had the incredible. opportunity to do a lot of things. The. boys and I have gotten an opportunity to. be in some wild places. Uh. we made an appearance last night in a. world that we're not supposed to be in. Please run it, Foxy. More than a football player for $600. A. former All-Pro punter, he's had some.

controversial guests on his self-named. ESPN talk show. Aaron? Who's McAfee? That's right. Thank. you, Aaron. Thank you, Aaron. Controversial guests, I think they were trying to say, "Hey, we don't love everything this show is. about" without completely burying me. You know, like the the the show, I think. they were trying to balance it. We would. like to say to the Jeopardy people, "Thank you for letting us in your. world." I love Jeopardy. That's a huge. deal. I [ __ ] my pants. Yeah? I That was. a big one. I get it. I got a text from. somebody, "Jeopardy." And I was like, "Man, I'm missing the nice show, dude.".

>> [laughter]. >> And they're like, "No, you were on. there." I'm like, "What?" It was That's. a wild moment for us, dude. That is. And. then we just had the governor of. Louisiana. And he goes, "You know, we didn't start. fixing this. The NCAA can do this.". Hell, I don't know. I don't know if they. can, but I just I remember like we had. Charlie Baker in like maybe a little. over a year ago in studio. And like you. said, like that was his whole thing. He. was like, "Yeah, we kind of need the. government to spearhead this. Like we. can't really do this." So it seems like. like you said, the NCAA and you know, DC.

are kind of just pointing at each other. saying, "Hey, you guys need to fix it. and you need to fix it now." So I don't. know if it's going to get done anytime. soon. >> Uh I don't I I have no idea either. Uh. but good luck to all parties. It's a lot. to get figured out. Yeah. [applause] You. got this. You got TV contracts. You got. coaches contracts. You got every I mean, players contracts. Now, you got. billions and billions and billions of. dollars. Let alone the hundreds and thousands of. tickets that are just sold in some. places. I mean, it's so much such a. massive entity such a massive entity.

just be like, "We can corral it." Let. alone when you start tossing in all the. others, basketball. >> Yeah. Yeah. Uh women's softball down. there in SEC and. I guess Big 12, right, cuz Texas. The whole thing. So and then you start. thinking about these sports like where. some of the teams make a lot of money, some of the other teams don't make a lot. of money. How do you kind of corral. that? How do you corral all of it? Governor Jeff Landry got to do it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's got it [applause] done. He's going to step on that can and. kicking that thing down the road.

Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, is a man who. just secured another bag via Pete. Thamel's tweet. There's some breaking. news out of the college football world. Nebraska coach Matt Rhule signed a. two-year contract extension this. morning, which will take him through the. 2032 season and includes a $15 million. buyout this year that effectively. eliminates him from any jobs in this. coaching cycle. Interesting wording from. Pete Thamel. But [laughter] joining us. now, ladies and gentlemen, the head. coach of Nebraska, man who just signed. two-year extension this morning, Matt.

Rhule. Yeah, yeah, yeah. >> [applause and cheering]. >> The fellas. Congratulations. I know. obviously not the best outcome. We don't. want that. We want to win by 100 every. single time. But congratulations on an. extension with Nebraska. How did we get. to this point? How long has this been in. the works? And congrats. You You watched. us read Pete Thamel's tweet. I don't. think he was as celebratory as he should. be. Congratulations to you, bro. Hey, ran your ASS OUT OF CAROLINA, BRO. Signed a new deal with Nebraska. Congratulations. No, thank you very much.

Yeah, I mean, I. we were on two I think two weeks ago and. we talked about it and I just you know, I told you guys how much we love it. here, you know? And to me. there's lots of great jobs, but very. rarely in this business do you find a. home. And uh uh we we felt like Nebraska. is our home. This program is our home. I. love these players. I love this place. Um our AD Troy Dannen has been amazing. to me. Our president Dr. Gold. And I. mean, it's just the alignment. I mean, you see you see places that don't have. alignment. We got amazing alignment and. we're building. And so I think I think.

after about with the week three, uh you know, Troy started talking to me. about it and I just was like, "Hey, I. just got to focus on football." But I. appreciate it. They're They're betting. on the future and we're doubling down. Congrats, man. That's very cool to hear. Yeah. You've been this way about. Nebraska since you got there. I think. you were very excited. There was other. jobs that you could have had. And you. also could have just become a. professional golfer like some fired. coaches have in the past and collected. the check and it all. I'm excited that. you're back in a place that you. absolutely love over there in Nebraska. Fresh off beating Northwestern. Congrats. on a big-time win. Obviously,

Northwestern had been shocking a lot of. people. Got James Franklin's ass fired. up there in Penn State. Now you have. huge game, obviously, USC at home, 7:30. on NBC. What's the mindset as you look. down the last four games here, which are. all pretty big down the stretch for your. Nebraska Cornhuskers? Yeah, I think the thing that our team is. has learned, you know, and I think we we. unfortunately learned it the hard way at. Minnesota. Um and then you know, it's. like, "Hey, parity is here at college football.". Like in the NFL, you know, if you have a. winning record, you're probably going to.

make the playoffs. I mean, you're we're. pretty close. I mean, you don't you. know, nine nine and nine and eight is a. good season. 10 and seven is a good. season. Parity is in college football. I. mean, look look at the teams that are in. the top 10 that weren't there years ago. So every single week you got to show up. and play. I mean, you know, the days of. beating people 45 to some people are. doing it, but not I mean, I'm watching. Texas the other night come back to win. I'm watching Alabama come back to win. It's just you got to show up every. single week. And so we have four chances. left. And this Saturday, you know, obviously it's amazing opportunity for. us to play a great USC team that's five. and two and and they're probably the.

best offense I think I've ever seen. So. it'll be it'll be a lot of fun. You talk. about the offense. I mean, you're talking about a one-man. Lincoln Riley. Go ahead, Con Man. >> Yeah, coach. How's your relationship. with Lincoln Riley? I believe you guys. go back to the Baylor OU days and you. might have played a few times. I I am. not 100% sure about that, just like most. things. But how do you approach an. offense like that? Do you go back and. look at all the games, you know, he. called both at Oklahoma and you know, with Caleb Williams and things of that. nature? And how are you feeling, you.

know, going up against a guy that was. such an offensive guru for so many. years? Yeah, I think he's brilliant. I think. he's a great guy. He was the offensive coordinator at East. Carolina. when I was at Temple as the head coach. So I mean, going all the way back to the. he had a great offense at East Carolina. And then obviously at OU and Baylor. So. I had a chance to go against him there. And. I I think he's one of the best offensive. minds in football. And he does it so. many different ways. You know, he he. played one way with Baker. The next year. he had Kyler Murray, played a different. way. The next year he had Jalen Hurts.

and revamped his offense. But at the end. of the day, he always scores points. They run the football. And so. you know, for us there's there's no. there's no secret formula. We got to. play well. We're going to have to play. well on offense, defense. We've been. playing great on special teams. We have. to keep that up. And you know, you get. to the fourth quarter, hopefully it's. you know, in the 20s. It's freezing cold. here Saturday night. And then get to the. get to the fourth quarter and [laughter]. and be ready to just go make one more. play. It does feel like it's starting to. become Big 10 weather time. You know, I. I It's raining this morning. The leaves.

are falling. You know, we've had these. beautiful, majestic, orange, pink leaves. for like the last two weeks or so. It. has been great. This morning, rain, wind, goodbye. Bare ass trees, terrible. weather coming. Is it like that in. Nebraska right now as well? Oh, yeah. You know, so I so I wear. shorts every day, Pat, and we don't I. don't use the indoor. And if I ever. can't handle the cold, I'm like, "All. right, guys, let's go in the indoor." So. that's like my my barometer. >> [laughter]. >> And yesterday it was so it was so cold. yesterday that I walked over to.

Hogerson. I was like, "Dana, do you want. to go inside?" And he said, "No, I love. it out here." I was like, "Oh my gosh.". I mean, it was debilitatingly cold and. windy. So you know, but that's again, you've heard me complain. Like that's. football. Like. It wasn't meant to be played all the. time. Every game wasn't meant to be. played indoors or in the sun. Like you. got to deal with this. And so I'm I'm. fired up to be in this type of weather. Now, Dana, you want to go inside or no? No, this is good. He let me down. DC. >> [laughter]. >> DC said same thing, man. Everybody I I. just asked Dylan. I said, "Dylan, you. want to go inside?" He said, "No." I'm. like, "What is you guys' problem?" What.

What is you [laughter] guys' problem? It's freezing cold out here. Saturday. during the day, 47°. Nighttime, 31. Winds light and variable, good for. kickers. Don't know where the hell. they're coming from. Don't worry about. it. And then obviously. 81% humidity is going to make it a. little chill. That's going to make it a. little bit of a sting on the face there. when we talk about below freezing. Congratulations to you guys getting USC. in Nebraska in that weather. Tone has a. question for you. Yeah, coach. I don't. mean to go back to the loss to.

Minnesota, but coach Saban always talks. to us on this show about teams that like. his team specifically and then other. teams that this year needed to lose. After you after that loss to Minnesota, was that something that was needed for. your guys? And And what was the message. after that? Yeah, I would I mean honestly I I was. pissed off after that game cuz I felt. like I I think P.J. Fleck's a great. coach. I think he has got He's got 8. years there or whatever he's been there. 8, 9 years of establishing a culture and. I felt like as a team we did not respect. the process and how hard that game was.

going to be. And so it's it's 7-6 at. halftime and we're in the locker room. like despondent and I'm like, "What's. wrong with you guys? Like, you know, this is what football's like." And so um. I thought we had to come I didn't want. to lose, but we came out of that loss. and then they bullied us in the fourth. quarter and they were very receptive to. the message on Sunday and Monday like, "Hey, every game's going to be hard. Uh we're. going to have to battle every single. game, get to the fourth quarter." So we. go in at halftime this week and it's 7-6. again. Now we're up this time 7-6, but I. walked in the locker room and I'm like, "Hey, who are you going to be in the.

second half?" And we got a 15-point. lead, they came back, tied it up, and we. go down to win the game at the end. And. that's the type of team that you need in. college football now, resilient, humble. because it's just travel, there's. weather, there's good teams, there's. NIL, there's parity. You better battle. every single week and I I wasn't happy. after Minnesota at all. Okay, everything's still in front of you. though, right? You're telling your team. obviously. Now, let's look at the final. four games. USC, if you're able to get a. win, you'll will be able to get a win. We're talking to the head coach of the. team. That would be obviously huge.

UCLA, obviously a win you would like to. have that That'd be a good win, but. they've been playing good ball as well. Penn State, obviously before the season. looks different than it does now. And if. Iowa next week is to beat Oregon, that. game at the end of the year obviously. pretty gigantic. You go back to your. first game of the season, Cincinnati's. become a very, very, very big team. It's. like all of a sudden everything. literally still in front of you, Coach. Rule, right? That's the angle, at least. that's the You're seeing the same thing. I'm seeing? Absolutely. I mean you know, our our.

whole goal as a program is to come down. to this time of year, get to November. and be relevant. You know, be chasing. getting into the playoff, be chasing all. these things. And so, you know, USC has. that same hope, Iowa has that same hope. They're both at 5-2 and 6-2 and that. that's that's the parity of the Big Ten. And so, you know, to your point like we. beat Cincinnati and and and they're a. They're a highly ranked team. I mean we. we've we've had some good moments, but. it's all about what you do in November. You you know better than anybody else, right? Like So all that stuff got you. ready for this point, everything's in. front of you. Now go play great football.

and this is an unbelievable challenge. this week versus a great team. And and. we'll be ready for it. Still being in it. is a great thing, brother. Ty has a. question for you, Iowa Hawkeye, obviously. Yeah, speaking of all that, Coach, how much has it changed in terms. of like the coaching staff's mentality, your mentality, and the players with the. new 12-team playoff? Cuz like you said, I mean obviously after the Minnesota. loss, you know, things change a little. bit, but you guys do still have. everything ahead of you, whereas, you. know, maybe a couple years ago when you. were at Baylor or whatever, if you have.

two losses at this point, you know, you're you're eliminated. You're not. going anywhere. Like, how is that. changed maybe how you approach things. philosophically and and also how the. team just kind of approaches the game. week in, week out? Yeah, I think it There's a good and a. bad to it, right? Like you see You've. seen a lot of teams in college football. like they lose that second game and all. of a sudden they go on a four-game, you. know, skid cuz they're like, "Oh, the. season's over, you know." Um. you know, our approach has been get. better and better and better and play. our best football in November, play our.

best football in December. Like, hey, that's We're training the guys to go be. pro football players. That's how it's. going to be at the next level. And. that's how college football's become. You know, I was on the Penn State. football team in 1994 that that went. undefeated, won the Rose Bowl, beat. Oregon 38-6 and didn't win a national. championship. Uh the national. championship we said came here to. Nebraska. And that that was a really. different world back then. And then at. Baylor we finished 11-1, we go to the. conference championship game against. Oklahoma, we lose in overtime, and we. don't get to go to the the playoff. So. it's it's the access I think has made.

football much more enjoyable and fun to. watch coming down the stretch here. because there's so many teams that are. still alive. You just got to play your. way in and and we're going to fight to. play our way in. You got a nice black. long-sleeve shirt on there. I got a. black Henley on here and I just saw on. social media the boys are going. black ops this weekend. I like that. What is the thought and what is this. going to look like in your state? Are we. going black out in the crowd, too? Yes, our our our We're going to The.

crowd's going to black out. Uh it's. great. We We wanted to do it. We wanted. to do it. The players wanted to do it. The recruits wanted to do it. And we. kind of felt early on, hey, this will be. a night game. I I I think blackouts are. great at night, obviously. And so. there's no There's nothing better in the. world than a night game in Lincoln, Nebraska except for maybe a blackout. light night game in Lincoln, Nebraska. We're going to We're going to um. We're going to go out there. We're going. to We're going to throw the uniforms on. I think it's going to be electric and. it's going to be a great football game. So. it's a it's something we planned in the. preseason and and obviously the game has. some real merit now, so it'll be fun.

Okay, so you don't have to give anything. away. Do not feel obligated to answer. this. But is there a man that was. wearing jeans and a black T-shirt next. to a guy wearing six different costumes. this morning on Get Up giving maybe a. speech on your jumbotron? Oh, I I I I. I bet I He better be on the jumbotron, you know. I mean like We need We need We. need Willie C to come through big for us. this game. It's going to take everybody. I I got Tommy Frazier going out to be. the honorary coin toss captain. I mean. This is a This is a big This is a This. is a fun big moment for Nebraska to be.

to be playing a game in November on. national TV and it's not because of the. other team. It's because of us and the. other team. And so we're fired up about. it and. we're we're calling on all the We're. calling on all the all the greats. Biggest game. in the Rule Nebraska era happening this. weekend. We appreciate you taking time, brother. Enjoy the hell out of it all. Halloween. uh best candy, best candy. Oof. Oof. Oof. Think about it. Oh my god, BUTTERFINGER.

WOW. WHAT WERE YOU BATTLING WITH? WHAT WERE. YOU BATTLING WITH THERE? Um well, cuz I hate to admit this, so. like my daughters have those Nerds. Clusters things that they came out with. now. So don't hate him. I'm a chocolate. guy as well. I'm a chocolate guy as. well. Yeah, it's hard to admit that the. little candies are pretty good. Those. are unbelievable. They're amazing. Amazing. Amazing. Too many, huh? You. having a lot? >> [snorts and laughter]. >> Well, I mean I just All I'm saying is. like I mean I just try to lose all this. weight, da da da da da. We get the. Halloween week. I've been on a bender.

since like Monday. We do like a Julie. does like a trunk-or-treat for all the. coaches' kids and I've just been eating. candy nonstop. >> Yeah, you're supposed to though. Supposed to. Hey, this is part of it. Yeah, yeah, you're supposed to. YEAH, DON'T WORRY ABOUT IT. BUTTERFINGER, Nerds Clusters, Reese's, Oreos exist. I. mean you do whatever the hell you need. to do over there. You've earned it. Okay. I feel good about that. Thank you. My first time being in shape at this So. I'm not used to the the rules, so thank. you. Well, that's interesting. So I'm. also a guy that easy come, easy go with. the weight, you know, like 70-lb weight.

spins for me throughout entire years are. very possible with how much I like to. eat and how much I enjoy eating. You. probably understand where I'm coming. from when I say this. You just got to. make sure after this week you have the. ability to stop. See, that's the issue. with us fat souls. You know, us fat. souls would say, "You know what? We'll. do the Halloween week and then we'll. feel like such [ __ ] and fat souls will. stop immediately after And guess what we. we do right there on Saturday when. November comes? Well, we got to eat what. we had last week and then Sunday. And. then on Monday you think to yourself, I.

just ate like [ __ ] all last week. I. might as well get You know, let me get. some fries. >> we're 2 weeks away from Thanksgiving, so. we might as well just. wait till after We'll start the new. year. Okay, so we're putting a red. light. We're putting a red light after. Halloween. Okay? That's what we're all. doing here. Thank you. Done. I'm in. All right, I'll send a text. Accountability buddies. There you go. Accountability buddies here. Ladies and. gentlemen, that's Coach Matt Rhule. Congrats on the new deal. >> [applause]. >> That was cool of them to announce that 5. minutes before he comes on. Certainly. Let you That was certainly on purpose. Yep. Yep. And and we are very, very,

very thankful for that cuz he usually. says, "What do you need? When do you. need us?". is normally his conversation. And this. time they're like, "Hey, how about. 12:30? Is that okay?" It's like, "Yeah, no problem at all, actually." And then. 12:25 Pete Thamel pops up into our feed. Matt Rhule just signed a new deal that. maybe limits him from possibly not. leaving. What was that? >> I don't know what that was. What was it? I don't You would You would You would. think just announcing the extension. would uh kind of get it across that, hey, I'm not leaving this coaching.

cycle. Source. says Nebraska coach Matt Rhule signed a. 2-year contract extension this morning, which will take him through 2032 season, 7 years from now. It includes a $15. million buyout. We're listening to Brian. Kelly's $53 million buyout right now. $15 million buyout this year that. effectively eliminates him from any jobs. in this coaching cycle. Okay. It. effectively does, but. This is college football, anything can. happen. >> Please call Pete Thamel. Yeah, I didn't. know why he worded it that way. We. certainly need that. Nebraska's not off.

the hook here yet. $15 million? We see. some of these billionaires chew. [laughter] that. It could turn into a quite quite a. quagmire. >> This could be quite Yeah, the addition. to wording is quite a sticky situation. >> [laughter]. >> Is potentially what he's going to say. Yeah, and but he might say all of that. verbatim. Okay, let's give actual. predictions on. what Pete Thamel says here. I'm going to. say he's going to say something about, if you read the fine print of the. contract, it's not necessarily a. guarantee that he's not going to be.

exploring other options this offseason. It's just whether or not That's why I. think the angle. What do you think the. angle's going to be? Probably something. along the lines of Well, you mentioned. these billionaires, Pat. $15 million if. if I'm not mistaken. Doesn't Warren. Buffett live in Omaha? That's that's a. stone's throw away from Lincoln if they. decide they want to move on. Connor, what do you think Pete Thamel says? I. think he's going to be quite gobsmacked. that they got this done. in the middle of the year and it's only. a 2-year extension. Okay, we just connected with him. I I.

was just cold FaceTiming him as well cuz. we called him in the back, he did not. answer. He's probably got so many other. things happening and me cuz everybody. that saw that is doing exactly what. we're doing right now. But it's not just. idiots that are live on TV. It's like. other coaches that are looking for. things, agents are potentially looking. for stuff, schools are thinking of. things. There I mean, there's ladies and. gentlemen, the authority on college. football, the man that just broke the. potential news that Matt Rhule is out of. the coaching cycle. Ladies and. gentlemen, Pete Thamel. Hello, Pete. >> Love glasses, Pete. Hi Pat, how are you? Uh I'm fantastic.

Thank you for doing that news break. about coach Matt Rhule literally 3. minutes before he came on our show. That. was awesome. I was reading your tweet. for the first time live on air. Found. the wording to be very interesting. Nebraska coach Matt Rhule signed a. 2-year contract extension this morning, which will take him through 2032 season. That's 7 years from now. It includes a. $15 million buyout this year that. effectively eliminates him from any jobs. in these coaching cycles. So does. effectively eliminate him mean.

definitely eliminate him or do you think. he's still potentially dancing around. this off season? No dancing, Pat. No dancing. Effectively. eliminates is just a phrase for tied to. repeat in my voice. I think [laughter] it would have with a. little bit of flair. So, you can't ever. deal in absolutes in the carousel, but. Matt Rhule's staying and this is a this. is a this is a clear searing sign that. Matt Rhule is is is going to be at. Nebraska. And and really let's let's. just be blunt, not go to Penn State. where, you know, his closest friend is. the athletic director. He's a graduate. of there and you know, they were.

obviously heavily linked since that job. opened. So, no, Matt Rhule is going to be a. Husker for a while. I I was told Pat by. sources this is a sign of Matt Rhule's. family loves it in Lincoln. They love. Nebraska and Matt Rhule believes that. you can win big at that place and this. is a tangible sign of that. >> Every week he joins us there's. some massive 8K LED board behind I mean. it is the way he describes it is they're. all in. I'm happy to hear that he's all. in as well. Congrats to Matt Rhule on a. new deal. Let's talk about those. coaching opens vacancies. Pen- who's.

going to go who's going to go to all. these places? Dude, like I know Lane. Kiffin's name's obviously up there, but. what if he wants to stay at Ole Miss cuz. of how good they are currently at Ole. Miss. Is this just going to be a. reshuffling of these coaches? There's. going to be young names? Who do you. think is going to take all these jobs. that everybody is calling highly sought. after jobs? Signetti signs a $93 million. deal. Matt Rhule signs a deal through. 2032. Obviously, there's going to be. other moves made. Like who who's going. to take all these jobs, Pete? Is it. these guys that just got fired going to.

other places? Yeah, I think Pat, one of the. interesting nuances of today is that and. you mentioned Curt Signetti, we're. seeing the unintended consequences of. all these early firings. We have never. had eight power jobs open before. Halloween, right? So, now you're giving. the schools. ample time and ammo to sign these guys. up at a deal. Where whereas if you make. this move around Thanksgiving, they. probably the schools probably aren't as. proactive if they don't know the. competition is looming. So, it's it's an.

interesting wrinkle. Like what will. Vanderbilt do with Clark Lee? I think. that's a really interesting question, right? Like he's obviously we were just. there last week, Pat, for game day. He. has them you know, as hot as they've. been since Grantland Rice was a student. at Vanderbilt, right? So, yeah, I think. that's really interesting, but you your. point, Pat, is is really really a. salient one. There are a lot of jobs. open and the kind of coaches you fire. your coach for are starting starting to. disappear from the board. There's only. three championship coaches.

sitting in college football right now. They're not going anywhere and if you're. doing what Penn State did, if you're. doing what LSU did, you are going to you. know, you are aiming for a national. championship and there are a couple. names off the board right now who who. are you know, some of the better names. to go do that. So, I heard you had Jeff. Landry on the show today, Pat. My phone. started to blow up when I landed at the. airport in Salt Lake. How'd that go? Okay, so yeah, it's Governor Jeff Landry. first [laughter] of all. Excuse me. And by the way, he. he appoints the commission of.

the committee the. he appoints regions No, that's Texas. Yeah, board of supervisors. Supervisors. board of supervisors. It is my people. running that. >> [laughter]. >> And it ain't going to be our people. paying that bill. Okay, so we ain't. doing that again is basically what he. said. He explained and now he didn't. know that maybe Jimbo and Brian Kelly. and Scott Woodward have different. agents. Okay, so that obviously Big. Deluxe wanted to make sure we got that. kind of clarity through that. conversation and it all, but he was very. much open about how like hey, this is.

going to become he's going to be trying. to put incentive based contracts in for. these coaches going forward. That that. is what he was saying basically. It's. like if you're good, you're going to. win. You know, what you scared about, man? It is what he said. It's verbatim what he said in this. entire thing. How what do you think the. reality is of the shift of that. potentially happening going forward? Cuz. I tried to tell Governor and listen, Governor Jeff Landry he's obviously more. than older than I am about this. particular situation, but I tried to. tell him like hey, this is a freight. train that's already gone, brother. He.

talked about how the NCAA needs to be. the ones to fix it and we I told him. hey, the NCAA is saying you guys need to. be the ones that are fixing it. And he. goes oh well, the NCAA just needs to. redo the it need to circle. So, it feels like you know, there we are. maybe meeting a melting pot at some. point or. a burning boiling point. There it is, a. boiling point at some point here with. all this [ __ ] but what are your. thoughts on it and what do you think the. reality of change is in all of it, Pete? I guess that's pretty open-ended for.

you. Yeah, no, I appreciate it, Pat. It's. it's it's a pretty hilarious uh. we could call it a vexing conundrum, right? You have a job without a school. president, you have cut the knees off. the athletic director, right? Who's now. going to hire the coach. So, you need a. coach desperately to fulfill. championship expectations. But now. with no president and an AD who you've. cut his knees out off, you want him to. come without a lot of guaranteed money. That seems to me to to to be a bit of a. contrast in thinking, right? Because and.

you've compressed the market, too by. scaring some coaches off and then. obviously, you know, prompting an economic stimulus to get. some signed. I think Governor Governor Landry is. likely not helping LSU find a BETTER. COACH. OH, WHAT DO YOU KNOW, PETE? YOU'RE. >> [laughter]. >> PART OF THE PROBLEM NOW. YOU GUYS ARE. LOOKING AT THE AGENTS WITH PETE NOW. There's one guy making ALL THE. THERE'S ONE GUY MAKING ALL THE NEWS. I DON'T KNOW. How many sports insiders. here? None. There's only one named Pete.

Thamel. Who [laughter] do you think he's got. some of his IN HIS POCKET? YEAH, I'LL GET to the bottom of it. Yeah, Jeff Landry is I mean, Governor Jeff. Landry, sorry, sir, is just awesome. because he does I assume speak like how. a lot of people and his thoughts are. exactly how a lot of people feel, especially in the state of Louisiana. And for us, it's just like hey, how do. you fix it all, brother? I I don't know. how you cuz it's not just. there's a lot. He would have been an. incredible football coach. I don't know. I could imagine he thought. But yeah, I.

uh I but it's nice to know that there's. a governor now that's potentially on the. side of like let's try to fix what. college football is as a whole because I. know we love it. Now, I'm not saying he. can do it alone, but if more would kind. of figure this out, we'll continue the. incredible growth of the number two. sport in the United States of America. college football who only has one. insider that we officially know, the. authority Pete Thamel. We appreciate. you. THERE'S SOME HEY, HOLD ON, PETE. HOLD. ON, PETE. PETE. YEAH. YES. I just saw a tweet. The.

Connor Stalions story just Oh, yes. That. is that came down today. The NCAA made a. ruling on the Central Michigan facet of. that case. If you recall. Connor Stalions went in disguise with. remember the sunglasses that allegedly. had the videotape and component on the. side. That was that was one of the more. fun wrinkles during that very fun time, Pat. I I can't stress how much fun that. was that whole case. I do think seriously though, like you. guys we've we've had some fun with.

Connor Stalions and the case. There's a handful of coaches whose like. careers are over cuz of this. Small. college guys at Central Michigan, they. got show causes for multiple years. Jake. Kostner's one of them and you know, for. getting wrapped up in that scheme. And I. like my my general thought on that, you. know, Jim McElwain's retired. He gets a. show cause, who cares? You got a bunch. of coaches who who got wrapped up in. that scheme who's who's careers are at. least now diverted if not. you know, significantly altered cuz of. this. So, it was I feel bad for those. guys. There's always, you know, people.

on the other side of like what how the. hell story that are just living in the. [ __ ] world that has been caused. because of it all. So, obviously, we. send our positive thoughts out. Shouldn't be cheating. All right, we. appreciate [laughter] the hell out of. you. You're the man. I know that was a. lot of fun for you throughout the time. of it. Feels like it's completely. wrapped up now. We've pulled up we've. pulled up at BYU here, Pat. So, thank. you. My Uber driver's giving me some. funny looks. Okay, sounds good. Tell him. hey, Mormons supposed to be nice, I. thought. Thank you for being out He's very.

patient. He's been very patient with me. You're the man. Ladies and gentlemen, Pete Thamel. Thank you. >> [applause]. >> Obviously, if we're in Utah, got to. swing by BYU. Check in on Kalani Sitake. You know, she. would huge up, too. >> I say hello, big Ush. Good to see you. >> [laughter]. >> Yesh. Could you imagine Pete dressed like. that? Coach, what up, Ush? >> [sighs]. >> To coach Sitake. Please. They have the. number one college basketball player in. the country, too, in there. Oh, yeah. He's so good. >> Ryan Smith. Oh, yeah. Okay, this is what.

we're talking about. And this is what. Governor Jeff Landry I got I guess. couple millionaires could come in. I can't believe he was on our show. today. That was so awesome. It's been. long overdue. You know what? Governor. Jeff Landry down there radio row in New. Orleans. He was standing there. We. didn't get a chance to sit by him cuz he. was walking out. I had to get I said Gator hunt. How. about that? He did not say Gator. Yeah, correct. Said you got to come down now. >> You got to come down and hunt now, yeah. What a hilarious person. Just all of it. Just just all of it is hilarious.

>> Yeah. I think you have to be though. probably to get into the politics world. now. You could just be a robot I guess. I see. a lot of that. I thought in the politics. world you had talk. Like I thought that. was like one of the things. Like your. first couple years. But you're like 40, 45 that you're in it I think you just. sit there like a mummy. Yeah. Oh, do you. think that's cuz you can't actually. speak? Yeah. Oh, okay. I didn't even. think about that where we see these. Yeah, publicist. It's not just them by. the way. It's other television. I think. a lot of them don't remember what they. said and then they want to go the other. way and then they know that clip will be.

pulled so then they can't say anything. at all. And they don't. >> out there politicians. Thanks for doing. it. That's right. Thanks you guys doing a good job. Actually I think right now actually. terrible, right? Cuz it's not working. >> think they're even working right now. >> Yeah. So you guys aren't doing anything. Shut down. I don't know the ins and outs of it but. I hope you enjoy your vacation. What is. it? >> Probably more watching us now than ever. since they're sitting at home nothing to. do. Don't let us tell you what to do. >> [laughter]. >> Okay? We've been saying this for a long. time. You guys need a scoreboard over.

there. Okay? In sports we have a scoreboard. So. then we know okay who's winning and. who's losing. >> Yep. Now the issue with you guys I think. it's tough to know what a point is cuz. somehow I've heard some people talk and. there'll be somebody tells me massive. loss for this person. This person will. then pop on TV. Look at me. Look what I. So I don't know if there is a scoring. system that you guys have over there but. in our world of sports there's scores. So then you can you can say oh the one.

that won more probably should be the one. that we maybe listen to or try to. follow. Losers normally fade out in our. world. It's called meritocracy. Mhm. You. guys should think about doing that in. the government world, politics world and. we'd like to wish you luck in figuring. that out. And we'd also like to wish. Governor Jeff Landry luck on trying to. make a uh um. What was his name? Incredible pot. smoker, greatest of all time, Ricky.

Williams. Yeah. A Ricky Williams like. deal for a coach is what it sounds like. is potentially happening. That also was. with the Saints. If you do recall. >> It was. It was with the Saints when. Ricky Williams and Master P I do believe. negotiated a deal that was very. incentive based and incentive laden and. obviously incentives are good but I I. think at this stage of where everybody. else's contract is at, I think it's. going to be tough for Governor to get. that one in there. But hey, if anybody. could do it. Governor Jeff Landry. >> Amen. Hour two will be on the other.

side. We got Coach McCarthy joining us. Is he up for any of these college jobs? Good question. >> be. We should ask him. Maybe Trump yeah. You think maybe Penn State or. >> Could be. It's He knows the. battleground. Could you imagine him as a college. coach? Oh. I honestly can't. It'd be awesome. though. >> It would be awesome. It would be. incredible. And from what the. conversations we've had with him, I. think he could relate to anybody. >> Oh yes, for sure. >> Like legitimately anybody. What a. legend. He's on the other side. AJ.

Hawk's on the other side. More sports. talk. Be a friend tell a friend. something nice might change your life. We'll see you then. SPEAKING OF KICKING FOOTBALLS ESPECIALLY. HERE AT VANDY, WE HAVE LIVING LEGEND. here Sarah Fuller who's a three-time SEC. champion soccer player for Vandy and. also came IN TO KICK FOR VANDY WHENEVER. THEY NEEDED an absolute badass. We. appreciate you stopping by Sarah. Welcome back to campus. Great to have you here. And Kirk, we have a man.

named Tyler Huang. Is that accurate? There you go. Okay, where are you from? I'm from Dover, Massachusetts. All. right. So I've heard Vanderbilt is the. Harvard of the South. What are your. majors here? I'm a chem-e and econ. major. >> Okay, a chem-e. Okay, that's what we. call it. That's slang for chemical. engineering. There you go. >> Yeah, I'm in the chem-e world too. You. uh played soccer your whole life? Yes, sir. Did you ever kick a football or. field goals? >> Senior year, senior year. You were the. high school kicker for your team? A few. games. I might have stepped in. Okay, so. you have a lot of experience. Sarah, do. you think uh he should be able to make.

it on his first attempt then, right? >> Oh, absolutely. I have all the. confidence. He's got the soccer, he's. got the football background, he's got. it. >> Okay and uh Kirk Herbstreit's chasing a. squirrel behind us as he plays catch. with everybody here in Vandy. Have you. ever made a kick from this far? Oh, of. course. You have? Of course. All right. So here's the deal. HERE'S THE DEAL. ONE. KICK ONLY. ONE KICK ONLY. 500,000. DOLLARS. HALF A MILLION DOLLARS TYLER IF YOU'RE.

ABLE TO MAKE A 33-YARD FIELD GOAL. WE'LL. ALSO donate 250,000 dollars to charity. 750,000. dollars in total. 500,000 dollars IN. YOUR POCKET. 250 TO CHARITY. >> [cheering and screaming]. [cheering]. >> TAKE THE LAP KID. >> [laughter].

[cheering]. >> YEAH. YEAH. >> [cheering]. >> TYLER. >> [laughter]. >> COME ON BRO. CONGRATULATIONS. TYLER HUANG. KICKS THE BIGGEST BALL WE HAVE SEEN. SARAH FULLER WITH THE KICK. HERBIE WENT TO HOLLYWOOD. VANDY. WITH A MAGICAL SATURDAY MORNING.

>> [cheering]. >> How many kicks have we been doing over. the years, huh? I have no idea. That was. the best kick we've ever had bro. Ever. ever. >> kick we've ever had. You said it's been. two years? I think maybe you should. start trying to send some tape out to. colleges around the country. You. murdered that brother. What is the first. dollar going to be spent on? Those. degrees you're getting right now? Yeah, probably helping my parents help me out. with that. Um. I'm just so excited. Can't believe it. >> You're the best kid. Congratulations.

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Hello beautiful [music] people and. welcome back to our humble abode, The. Thunder Dome. On this NFL [music] week nine kickoff. Thursday, October 30th, 2020, OUTRO. BEGINS. FOOTBALL. I FORGOT TO SAY IT'S spooky. Thunder Dome day. You see Okay, you see. big skelly? Okay? Turns out we had one. of these all along. This is the exact. skeleton, two of them, that were in AQ. Shipley's front yard. THEN WERE RIPPED. OUT OF HIS FRONT yard at 1:14 a.m. BY A.

BUNCH OF SHIRTLESS CAUCASIAN HOOLIGANS. AND YESTERDAY WE talked about it on the. program alongside JJ Watt. Word got back. to the hooligans and all of a sudden. guess what was returned yesterday. >> What? >> Yep, here's in the middle of the first. inning of a U Ball game yesterday, AQ. Shipley drifted away from the court on. the phone in a sense of urgency and. comes back with this announcement. Hey Watt. SKELETON HAS BEEN RETURNED.

WE'RE ALL EXTREMELY HAPPY FOR AQ. THAT. was a splashy splash. I would go on to. hit a few more after that which is. obviously perfect timing but it was big. news or not only around Arizona but the. United States of America when Halloween. was saved for the Shipley family as. these boys recognized the fault. Returned to the home, scene of the crime. if you will. Built it back up what I've been told. >> Okay. And then under the order of those. who were there.

50 push-ups while chanting things, different messages. >> Love that. >> Yes. So there was a little bit of. It wasn't full fist to face or boot to. ass. >> Okay. But I do believe there was some. >> Made an example. >> At least some yeah, an example of it. Now, would these kids have gotten. arrested maybe any other house in the. United States of America if they just. walked back with that thing? Probably. But we talked AQ Shipley into it. Remember first hour he was not about it. >> No way. First hour They bring it back.

Good. Yeah, they come back. Good. That's. when I can actually punch him in the. face. Then by the third hour whenever we. talked to him we're like hey, these boys. bring back skelly, your kids' favorite. decorate, we can certainly get this. thing back. Yeah, that's true. Yeah, we. can do that. And then he acknowledged. these boys made a mistake and they owned. up to it. Halloween is back on at the. Shipley house. This is good. Yeah. I. mean this is great news. Honestly. This. is brilliant news. Is the world? I don't know. Feeling Talks the table. here. At Boston Connor. At Ty Schmidt.

WHENEVER THE HAMMER DONE. COWBOYS. Luigi. Tony Julio. You look unbelievable. Thank you. I. appreciate that. >> Shout out to JC got that thing tight. >> They did. Especially with that cowboy. hat you look really how do you do? Yeah. You look super How do you do? Hair look good too. I don't know if the. camera angle got it. How do you do? Yeah, hair's flowing right. You got. Tone. Tone feels like a young. 22-year-old paisano. Oh, sure. With this. mustache rolling around. Pat looks super. cool as well. Happy Halloween to you. Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, is.

a uh college football national champion, Super Bowl champion, Ryder Cup winner. Ladies and gentlemen, AJ Hawk. >> Yay! Hawker on that, if you notice. We maybe. just had the best first hour of our show. in the history. Okay? I I was I I was. watching as a fan. It was very fun. Governor Jeff Landry always uh always. entertains, that guy. Yeah, what a. treat. He's stepping on the can right. now, we know that. >> During the break, I found out that Ryan. Clark was on television earlier today, not happy with the governor. Uh I did. not I would like to let everybody know. that I I did not I legitimately did not.

know that. I uh I did not see it, but I. legitimately had some questions on the. [ __ ] that he said. And I feel like. because of what happened during the. Super Bowl where we got to meet him, chat with him, and then whenever Game. Day was down in LSU, I got a chance to. meet the people around him and chat with. him a little bit. We threw a Hail Mary. We're like, "The hell with it. Let's go. and see if we can get this guy to. clarify some things." Like, 15 minutes. before show starts. It's like, "Let's. see. Let's go Do you don't have a. connection? I think we do, right? Don't. they know us a little bit? We talked to. his people. Didn't we talk to his. people? His people know us, right? Yep. Send it down there." Immediate response.

is, "The governor's got some things. scheduled, but we will see. Like, we'll. call you back." It's like, "You got it. Oh, you got it." And then allegedly, Governor Jeff Landry was like thankful. for the opportunity to explain a little. bit, but also was not looking for the. moment. Like, I saw a couple people down. in Louisiana uh I I saw one blogger at. least uh post like the governor with a. quote, "It is not I'm not going to be. the one picking the next head coach, but. a group that is appointed to by me and. loyal to me will be the ones that'll be. making the selection." And then he did.

he did kind of say that, but then the. guy afterwards said, "And don't look. now, I'm on a nationally televised. podcast last show saying this. It's. definitely not me." So, I just want to. clarify. We asked him. It wasn't like he. said, "Hey, can I get out and do some. more talking about football?" We. remembered that we potentially had a. connection with him and we sent the. thing. If that makes sense, AJ, I I just. want to clarify all that [ __ ] No, yeah, he's not on a a press junket. When you. see these people promoting movies and. they do 50 shows in one day. He's not. doing that. I'm sure he has some other. stuff to handle, but it is pretty.

interesting the fact that how involved I. guess he is in the you know, not only. the firing, but the new the new search, I guess. >> Well, he said that that's like that in. most states, I think, cuz all these. schools are you know, the highest paid. state employee I think in every state. but maybe two of them is the head coach. of the state university. And then it. never really gets talked about, though. Like, hey, this is pretty That's a state. employee there? What That never really. gets talked about in the entirety of the. contracts and conversations. And then. Jeff Landry says, "Taxpayer got to pay 53? I don't think.

so. I mean, where is that money? We got. roads we'd like to pay.". And they're raising prices. Yeah, and. they're raising prices on Friday? Yeah, right. Who's doing this? I I don't think. so. So, I think that is why he did what. he did at the press conference and he's. getting involved a little bit more. louder. But ultimately, he said he wants. to put guardrails on. >> [laughter]. >> on college sports. I heard that. And. it's like uh hell yeah, governor. And. then I told her, "Hey, the NCAA thinks. you guys need to be doing that so they.

they can operate." And he goes, "Oh, yeah. I mean, I had Congress long time. And every day what they like to do, kick. can down road. I like step on the can, you know? I like get things done, but. the NCAA he goes, "They can certainly. within the guidelines of the the rules, they can certainly take care of this. And I call on them to do it." I'm like, "That's exactly what Governor, that's. what. Governor, that's what they said." So, now we're kind of you know. So, the. entire time, back half of that. conversation with him, I was trying to. motivate him to like actually try to. take this on. Like, "Hey, somebody's. going to have to take this on. You're. signing up for a lot of work, though,

AJ.". Yeah, you you let him know. I feel like. you told him like, "Hey, well, I think. you're up against it. Like, I think it's. a tough uphill battle, no question, but. you are the guy for the job." But it's. true, like, how does it even start? When. they when they mention Garbers, where. does it even start? What's the first. thing that happens? Uh 70 what million. uh buyout uh for Jimbo? Different agent. 53 million here. I mean, we're doing the. NFL right now. Yeah. I mean, we just. looked at uh Myles Garrett, you know, because our show and some others.

uh just certainly broadcast like, "Hey, Myles Garrett's spiking his helmet after. getting five sacks." He's already said. he wanted to be out there. And then. Connor's like, "Who has a lot of money. and who who has a lot of opportunity and. maybe didn't know they were going to be. in this good of position." Holy [ __ ]. Myles Garrett's coming to the New. England Patriots. And he didn't He's not. the only person I was saying that. There. was other people that were certainly. saying it. And then immediately as that. conversation's happening or ending on. our show, Schefter gets in a a text. tweet he sent him from somebody pretty. high up, if I had to guess. He goes, "There's no chance of that happening.". Okay, there's no chance of that. happening. And we under we go, "Why? Why.

is there no chance of that?" And then. they mentioned there's like 60 million. dollars in dead cap, which is exactly. what this buyout money is for these. state-run universities. It's like these. types of deals have been happening in. sports in for a long time. Let alone the. universities trying to woo coaches, cuz. there's only certain amount of coaches. that are good. How do you woo anybody in. any business? Like, "Well, guarantees. and you could do this. Amount of. control, amount of leverage, amount of. guarantees." So, I think he is up. against it. And I don't know if now is a. good time to be up against it,

especially with the 12-team playoff and. all all the opportunity that there is in. college sports. It's like, how do you. navigate that? If we know anything about. Governor Jeff Landry, he's going to get. that tiger on the field. So, he he going. to get that tiger on the field. So, I I. think he's going to sort it out, but I. will be intrigued to see what this. contract inevitably ends up being with. whatever coach that comes down there. And what coach ends up taking the deal, you know, AJ? Yeah, right. Let's see if. they can. Are they going to like change the mold. on hiring and what contracts may look. like moving forward? Obviously, they're. LSU, they're different than There's.

different tiers to the. the jobs out there, but is he going to. change things? >> I think he said we're going to set a. template. Mhm. Right? Then he said. [clears throat] something like Yeah, yeah, he he did say that. >> He said others will see our template. that we set here. It's going to be. awesome. His template recommendation was. basically like, put your reputation on. the line. You win, you get paid. You. don't, and UFL, baby. >> Yeah, I don't know how many coaches are. signing up for that, but hey. >> Basically, say you get a million dollars. per win a year. How about this? 5. million from all taxpayers here. Louisiana. We will say thank you with 5.

million dollars every win that you have. Good luck. I'll tell you. What if it's. the biggest contract in the history? Could. If you win, biggest contract in. history. Like some young some young. hotshot kid takes a chance on himself. and they give him a job and yeah, or. maybe if you lose, you got to pay like 2. million dollars back. Like, every loss. you got to pay something back. Actually, you got to go pave roads. Yeah. [laughter]. That'd be sweet. Go lay concrete. Go lay. concrete. I [laughter] don't know. I think. honestly, this is Jeff Landry right now. What this ends up becoming, I think will.

be a good thing for LSU football until. they lose games. If they lose games. But. there's a chance they go undefeated. Yeah. There's a chance they go. undefeated going forward and uh I'm. excited to see who ends up down there. Honestly, I'm very excited to who I see. >> to win. We know that they want to win. We know some fan bases feel like their. team or their school like doesn't truly. want to win. I I feel like Jeff Landry. and LSU, they want to win. I don't know. if you You may not agree on how they go. about it, but they're trying everything. they can. Yeah, and there's obviously a. lot of interest in that job. You know,

LSU as soon as it opens up, you hear all. the people that know coaching, all the. people that know like in the coaching. world, they're like, "LSU, good job.". I'm like, "What? LSU, great job. Okay, uh I understand that their fans are. awesome. I understand that the. environment is crazy. Why is it such a. good job?" And then now it's three out. of the last four, but they always go. three different coaches national. championship down there. Three different. coaches national championship. Nick. Saban, Miles, and O Joe. All within the first four years, too.

Those three coaches, all three of them, as soon as they leave LSU, they go on to. become massive very, very, very, very, very successful head coaches. Is that. right? All three of those guys do? One. of. One of. Sure. One of But LSU, all three of them win a. national championship. >> Yes. Okay, so all three of them win a. national championship there because the. amount of talent that is just in. Louisiana that just wants to be at LSU. I guess you're in it every year. Like, there's never going to be a game where.

you show up and the other side is going. to have more talent, be more physically. gifted, all that [ __ ] So, if you're a. good coach, not not even elite, if you. are a good coach, the thought is at LSU, you should be able to get the boys. rolling in the right direction. Let. alone if you're an elite coach, AJ. It's. kind of the conversation about it down. there. Yeah, you got to be an elite coach at. some of these places, though. You have. to. You There just gets to a point to. where the the fan like they're sick of. going 10 and two, whatever it may be. Like, you got to you have to make a deep. run. I I. I don't know. It's It is wild to think.

about. Think about Penn State's. basically a couple plays from making the. national championship. Coach Franklin's. gone. Like, I get it. I understand why. they do get like But it is, you just. have to win. Especially like, there's a. handful of five, 10 jobs where you have. to win. Kirk Herbstreit uh. chatted about it in our production. meeting for Game Day and then on Game. Day a little bit. These money people. shouldn't have the power. They're not. football people. They should not be. deciding what it is. Why would they give. any money then? That Well, that's. everybody's response. [laughter].

That's everybody's That was my I was. sitting right next to him whenever he. said it. And I literally just looked at. him. And I'm like, I I agree with what. you're say I. Yes. Yeah, I do, too. In theory, I agree. I know what you're saying. Yes, but. these people giving 10 million dollars. are like just going to expect something. And then also, if they don't like what's. going on, they could just say, "I'm not. giving another 10 million." And then. both of those things are leverage there. Anytime you get into the publicly traded. market, you know, anytime you start. taking outside money, all of a sudden. there's outside voices or pressures. What are the pressures? Well, they're.

not happy or they're threatening not to. do that again. So, then it's both both. of those things become pressures. But. you need it to win. It's just like a. part of the entirety. But we all agree. with Kirk. I would like to let you know, that's not great that that is how it's. going, but it is the reality of the. current situation. >> Yeah, and I'm sure it's been happening. for a while, but I feel like like when I. was in college, maybe when you guys were. in college, it was you'd have a big. donor would give 25, 50 million and. that'd be like a one-time gift and then. they'd put their name on like a football. building or something like that. Now. it's you give $10 million on or let's.

say, you know, August 1st or whatever. Like guess what? The following year on. August 1st, they're coming right back to. you and saying, "Hey, we need another 10. million. We need another 10 million.". Like you want to win, let's go. We need. this every single year. >> And they're even sending highlights of. and once again, uh General Manager Rivera over there at. Cal and the Cal algorithm, they got a. lot of money. Let's assume that this is. not going to be a conversation. But they. will be sending highlights of Sunga. Punga Telli if he's available to these. boosters and be like, "Hey, could you. imagine what this guy could do at our.

place? It's a 100,000 people all in. Sunga Punga Telli comes out of the Like. they're setting the tone for these. people and you get a parking spot." Mhm? Mhm. Mhm? You get a parking spot. Okay? And you get you get the. opportunity to pay $800,000 for a suite. for the eight home games we have. >> Yeah, of course. That This is not. counting to the suite. The suite is its. own thing, which obviously you would. like to see the stadium renovated. We. appreciate you looking out for us like. that for future generations of insert. name of school here. But also, we need. this so when you're in that suite, you.

know what would make that suite better? On the field. This guy. >> [laughter]. >> Look at this throw. Look at this third. and seven throw that he delivers right. here. This is a Cal. People say, "This. is just Sunga Punga Telli." Once again, General Manager Rivera out of Cal will. figure that whole thing out. I'm just. saying it as, you know, Fernando Mendoza. just happened to be It's having Will. Howard whenever he was coming out. Like. these are just things that happen and. they're only going to continue to. happen, you know? Like we could be the. next Diego Pavia situation with Andy. All you got to do is give us a $1.5.

million. Well, I just gave you $2 million last. year. Yeah, but those guys are developing. That's gone. Those guys are developing. Well, they're not on our team anymore, right? Yeah, they're developing. somewhere else. But. you know, it's just always a it's always. one of those. I don't know how you keep. them coming. >> You can't. >> You can't. You got to win. Yeah, you got. to win every game. You want them to keep. bringing money. Like can you imagine. they you gave 5, 10 million and they. call you again and the team went seven. and four? I'm like, "Well, I don't I. might give you 1 million and then you. can prove to me you can get back to. where you were." And on that note, like. if you don't win, what is the person. that is accruing that money.

say to these people to make sure it. keeps. >> That's tough gig. Yeah, so then it's. like, "Well, you got to make change. You. got to make change or I'm not giving you. money." It's like, "Well, we needed it. What are we talking about?" He's No, we're done with it. Iced that. Yeah. What do you mean iced. that? Don't call me. I ain't giving you. another dollar. This team sucks. I'm not. watching. Well, you got a parking spot. Give it up. I don't want it. You can take that out of the whole. thing. And then it's like, "Well, if I. move on from the guy, you back $15. million you can move on from that guy.". It's like, "Oh, all of a sudden this. person. has a lot of leverage.". >> Yeah. Which goes back to Herbstreit's.

point. That ain't how it's supposed to. be. Joining us now, ladies and. gentlemen, is a man who maybe signs up. for that life. >> Sure. Perhaps. Super Bowl He'd be able to bounce it. all. Oh, yeah. Yeah. He'd be able to. bounce it all, stay above it all. Mhm. He'd be able to look down at it say, "Hey, listen, let's sort this out. Okay? I know you want [ __ ] I want to, too.". >> [laughter]. >> Ladies and gentlemen, Super Bowl. champion coach Mike McCarthy. Yeah, [cheering and applause]. coach. How are you, coach? Ooh, enjoyed. that segment. That was awesome. Okay. Coach, all right. I'm going to put you.

on the spot here and uh I mentioned at. the end of the last hour, your name has. not been brought up for any college job. at all. Okay? Now we're in the world, though, where NFL coaches. think that college football is more. similar to the NFL than it's ever been. and maybe, you know, with the. uh draft class is basically just your. recruiting class and then portal is free. agency. So maybe NFL guys are more. likely to become college coaches because. it's more of a similar operation. Now,

like I said, nobody has mentioned. the great Irishman from Pittsburgh for. any of these college jobs. Have you ever. considered college or you just NFL guy. through and through? And what is your. views on the current state of college. football? Well, I mean, there was a time actually. when I first got into coaching, I got. into it for college football. I mean, that was my goal. um you know, back at the University of. Pittsburgh, you know, I I was there in. '89 and 1989 and 1992. And if you'd have.

told me I could have stayed there for 25. years on an assistant coach's contract, I would have signed it. I I just felt. that, you know, college football was the. period of a young man's life that you. could make the biggest impact. So that. was my initial, you know, goal of. getting into coaching and what attracted. me to get into coaching. So uh but then. 1993, I got a. opportunity at a young age by Marty. Schottenheimer to be you know, to be in. the. uh in the National Football League at. Kansas City and then really from there, you know, that's that's been my flight.

um you know, professionally. So uh you. know, I. looked at some things early in in my. time um in the NFL, but you know, back. then, I mean, it was so hard to get in. the NFL. You know, it was you know, I. can just remember the first staff that I. was on. I think I was 29 years old and. you know, I think the next oldest guy. might have been, you know, in his in his. late late 30s, early 40s. So I mean, it. was such a hard league to get into. uh even more so at that time. So um. yeah, so I've always viewed it as, you.

know, I'm here, you know, do everything. I can to progress here and I've been and. I've been very. Always been very blessed, I believe. That's what he was going to say. >> I mean, hell, I think I'm going to stick. to women's volleyball. I mean, that's a. that's a juggernaut out there. uh with these guys are going through. Um. but I I do agree with you. Do you see. the parallels now how the college. landscape has gone more towards the. professional with the payment of players. and so forth. And I know just the. friends that I have in college football, they do feel that you know, the. regularity of the of of the college game.

is is starting to get, you know, more. and more balanced and you know, there is. a little more clarity. But it's a tough. gig, you know, and especially just. seeing what's going on here the last 2. weeks with the you know, with some of. these buyouts. So you know, I I thought. you made a lot of excellent points. Okay. Hey, I appreciate hearing that. from you. I legitimately. And thank you. for getting us a shout-out on Sunday. Night Football. I mean, we're having. quite a little run here. I don't know if. you know about us. You get us a. shout-out on on Sunday Night Football. Thank you. Run it.

Among the interested spectators tonight, Mike McCarthy, of course, coached the. Packers when they beat the Steelers in. Super Bowl 45, coached Aaron for a long. time and a guy who grew up in. Pittsburgh. He is Western PA through and. through. >> Hell, yeah. And of course, after the run. in Dallas, he's uh has. some time on his hands now. See him on. TV at McAfee show every week. Always. enjoy talking ball with Mike and he is. here in Pittsburgh. Thank you, man. YEAH, RIGHT. THAT WOULD NEVER HAPPEN. ALSO, you look so cool. Kangol hat up.

there. Do I see a couple maybe. concoctions in it? How was the game? And. then let's dive into the game. But. first, how was the suite? How was life. in Pittsburgh watching a game back home? Um it was great. It's always great to go. back home with without a doubt. So uh to. hang out with the family. But yeah, I. was uh you know, I was a little hesitant. to go to the game. I'm so glad I did go. to the game. Uh the atmosphere was. incredible. I mean, I just you know, love that stadium through and through. and the crowd on both sides. I mean, it. was it was spectacular. I mean, especially in the first half and you.

know, the Packers I thought played. extremely well in the second half. But. you know, just you know, my son Jack we. went back with me and then I had my. nephew and my two sisters there. So it. was great. Hospitality was was was. awesome and um I'm really I'm really. glad I went back. It was you know, good. to see Aaron play in the black and gold. and just just a lot of a lot of great. conversation around certain people. coming to you know, say hello in the. box. So it was a great night. >> Yeah, I heard you're posted up in a. corner, pinky ring, Kangol on. Everybody's coming through saying, "Thanks for coming back to town." That's. [laughter] what I heard they were. saying. I heard that's how it was going.

Well earned, brother. Well earned over. there in Pittsburgh. And obviously that. evening showcased the worst uniforms. maybe in the history of ball, those. yellow ass cheeks that they had on. The. Pittsburgh Steelers Mhm. had Bret. Michaels obviously absolutely. slaughtering it. How was the performance? Bret Michaels'. performance pretty good? Crushed it. Crushed it. No, it was. awesome. The whole night was awesome. But yeah, Bret was excellent. Okay, happy to. >> had the crowd going. We've had. conflicting reports from the stadium. that maybe some places calling here him.

is good. So maybe that's why the second. half went the way that it went. But. nonetheless, happy to hear that you like. >> that right? Yeah, that's some some of. that happening out there, coach. Some of. that happening out there. So I'm happy. you enjoyed it. You got to go you got a. formal receipt. That's good. And then. there was go pack go chance allegedly. that turned the Pittsburgh Steelers into. having to use a silent count at home. Bruce Arians, former Pittsburgh Steelers. coach, says, "I'm embarrassed for the. Steelers fans." But other than that, what do we learn on the field? AJ has a. question for you, coach. Yeah, coach. I. I don't know how many times you've. watched like.

the Packers or the Steelers offense play. as a fan. I know as a kid, I'm sure you. have. But watching Aaron from the stands. like as a fan, what was that like and. what do you think his game looks like? He's he's moving around pretty well out. there and we know he obviously can can. still throw the ball. Yeah, I I I think he's really starting. to settle in. I thought I really felt. that way watching him against. Cincinnati, you know, the the week. before. And you know, I mean, it's you. know, it's it's like practice every day, AJ. You've been there. He he makes, you. know, three or four throws, you just you. know, like they're they're routine, but. they're you know, he's still his ball.

placement is still off the charts. You. know, he's starting to use his legs. more, but I thought he looked good. You. know, the uniforms are you know, we're. different. Um you know, mine some of the. you know, throwbacks that we you guys. wore back in the day. But uh it it it. was. It really was. It was a great. atmosphere. The go back go pack go, we've heard that so many times on the. road. That that was something I think. I'd never hear in Pittsburgh. But it was. a it was a really cool night and I I. thought you know, Green Bay really. stepped it up in the second half. I've. I've seen Green Bay play live three. times now and and seeing them in person,

I've been very impressed. You know, week. one, week two and and then this past. game against Pittsburgh. AJ says. whenever he watches a game and I think a. lot of ex-players say their natural. tendency is to watch the position that. they played. Okay? So AJ probably. watching like linebacker potentially. playing whenever he first retired. For. me, obviously, I watch the quarterback. Uh That That's kind of what I I do in. that entirety. When you're. easy, four-stringer. Brother, watch. Thanksgiving. Go see the Perfect Pass. rating. Okay, I don't know how often you. played there, but coach, are you. watching and like calling plays in your.

head or thinking about like what you. would do next if you were calling the. plays? Is that happening for you? Especially with like Aaron, like, "Okay, Aaron's doing this. I think we should. probably do this next." And have you. done that with every game that you've. watched if that question makes sense? Yeah, no, it makes perfect sense because. I just think we're all a product of our. experience. I watch it more from a a. game plan perspective. I I'm always very. interested in who's playing with quicker. tempo, you know, the game operation, play entry, things like that, substitution. You know, particularly, you know,

watching Aaron, you know, he had the, you know, the one offsides that wasn't. called, but you know, the free play. opportunities and things like that. So, and then and then obviously the third. down and the red zone, you know, the. situational and the game management. stuff. So, I I think you you you tend to. just really try to go on the ebb and. flow of the game and it's and it's funny. because, you know, you're sitting there. trying to watch the game and it's it's. cool, but you have other people around. you that they want to talk and ask. questions. You're. You're like, "Come on, man, it's third. and five here.".

Yeah, coach, you know, I mean, you know, what defense are they in? So, I mean, yeah, so no, it's I think you. just you watch the game from what you're. used to. So, I just really try to really. stay in tune with the situations and. cuz, you know, it's just like you look. at that game, there's there's two or. three plays for Pittsburgh that go the. other way, you know, then you know, maybe it's a tighter ball game in the. second half. So, you know, and just you. know, cuz you know, the ebb and flow of. the game is is is so critical to the. success in our league and I I think it's. just the the parity has been so evident.

that game games are are that competitive. and you know, the big plays. just can swing that momentum, you know, so far to the left and that sometimes. you can't get it back. Watching in. public is certainly difficult, you know, with people around it. I I don't want to. say like I'm some super football expert, but Jesus, when you watch a game in. public and you hear some things that. people are saying, it's like, this got. to be a dumb Has this person ever. Have you ever watched the sport before? What What It is hard, isn't it, coach? It is I couldn't even imagine for you. I.

could not even imagine for you, but it. is It's great how much people love it, though. Which is. which is part of it all, you know, part. of it all. You talked about the second. half there for the Green Bay Packers. Connor has a question for you. >> Yeah, coach, the uh second half numbers. are coming out with the Steelers and. it's pretty bad. Hambo sent some stuff. just basically saying, "Yeah, here it. is. The Mike Tomlin Steelers allowed. fewer points per game in 2008, 2011, and. 2010 than they're allowing in the second. half alone this season." And you know, Tony's talked about this a lot. It's not.

as big of a deal if there wasn't so much. money on the defensive side. And what I. want to ask you about is this clip from. uh Footballin' with Big Ben and Spank. The Pittsburgh Steelers, when I was. there and for as long as I can remember, were the best in the world or one of the. best in the world at making halftime. adjustments. As players, we were we were. proud of the coaches at halftime. Great. coaches that were able to make halftime. adjustments. We didn't play well in the. first half. They were going to make. adjustments. and we were going to go in the second. half and as long as we executed and did.

what we were supposed to do, the. adjustments made at halftime were going. to were going to give us that. opportunity to win. As I'm watching. these games, it doesn't feel like the adjustments are. being made. Again, I'm not in the locker. room. I don't Maybe they are and the. players aren't I I don't know. This is. just my opinion. Now, is that coaching? Is it players? Is it adjustments? Is it. lack of adjustments? I don't know, but. it just feels like. the second half of ball games. we're we're we stink. And and it's and I'm I just I'm just. asking a question. Are we making the.

proper adjustments? Yeah, so coach, obviously, even Big Ben. is kind of questioning and we love Ben. Yeah, that Footballin' show is electric. He came in the suite, too. Awesome guy. And I'm a Patriots fan. I don't even. give a [ __ ] about the Steelers, but when. when you're looking at something like. that or hearing something like that and. then Tony just let me know 47% of the. points they've given up have come in the. fourth quarter. What the hell's going. on? Because it feels like there has. been, especially the past few years,

where there's been issues with the, you. know, offense or defense and the. halftime adjustments have been called. into question and, you know, obviously, they let go of Matt Canada midseason, which was very. kind of not to the Steeler way, if you. will. Do you see something happening. with the defense when it when it comes. to, you know, something along those. lines? And what what's your kind of. understanding of it after being in there. on Sunday night? Well, I I think you've hit on a couple. excellent points here. I think number. one, you know, and you know, first off, you.

got to love Ben's beard. It's looking. sharp. That was strong. But, I would say second half adjustments I. I've never been, you know, want to say, "Hey, let's get in there at halftime and. get this adjust" I mean, because it's. really from the coaches' perspective, it's going on the whole the whole game. I mean, you know, if your coaches aren't. if your communication network is not, you know, you know, flowing through the. whole course of the game, then yeah, there's some there's something wrong. there. Halftime really gives you a. chance to go down and and and show some. pictures as a group, get do more group.

talking and things like that, addressing. kind of It's It's more of a reset. So, I I think the adjustment component. is something you just got to look at, you know, the flow of of what's going. on. I mean, I think when you you get in. the games and and you watch trends that. that continue to happen, then then then. that's a potential issue. You know, I I. I think that's something that it's week. eight, week nine. I look at these more. as trends. You know, I think that's why. you got to really watch how you react to. stats. And trust [snorts] me, every head.

coach, every general manager, everybody, you know, the analytics departments, the. the influx of information is constant. So, I I can promise you that they're. looking at it and and and the reality of. they're going to clearly know what's. going on inside. You know, make you. Was Was it the communication? Was there. a breakdown on the adjustments that that. only the players know? Cuz, you know, sometimes and AJ tested this that, you. know, things things are said and it's. not clear during the course of the game. and sometimes you don't get that iron. out till halftime or get it ironed out,

unfortunately, till after the game. And. and that's to me, that's that's that's. really reflective of your communication. network that needs going throughout the. whole game. So, yeah, I think these are. something These are things that they're. definitely addressing and we all. understand that when things don't go. right and and there's a lot of money. involved, then, you know, the the. criticism goes way up. And and that's. justified. And I think it's whether. you're a coach, you know, in in a situation where, you know, that's going [snorts] on at this time of. year in our in our industry, but also.

with with players. So, that's part of. the criticism and the higher the stakes. go up in the NFL, it's the intensity is. only going to go up. >> I heard Peyton Manning say halftime. adjustments were a lie. Okay, I've heard. AJ and you say something similar. So, whenever players like Ben say like, "We. took a lot of pride in the fact that we. made great halftime adjustments." Is. that just second half calling plays that. are good as opposed to calling the same. shitty plays from the first half on both. sides of the ball? Is that what they're. saying? Well, [laughter]. I I I can't I can't speak for them, but.

I think also the, you know, the big part. of play calling is too is you know, IS. THE EXECUTION. >> [laughter]. >> YEAH, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, I I ALWAYS felt. that, you know, a quick good call is better than a late. perfect call. And because give it to the. player like my my goal as a play caller. was to get it to the quarterback as fast. as he can. You know, no different if. we're talking about the defense. I mean, AJ called the defenses for us in Green. Bay. I mean, he's he's a much better.

communicator if he has it quickly. because every every play call in today's. NFL and it's been like this for decades, there are potential adjustments in. pretty much every situation. So, you. know, I I just think when you talk about. the communication network, it's not just. halftime. You know, it goes on. throughout the whole game. So, you know, cuz you want to be clear, concise, and. and get it to the player so that they, you know, it cuz they they got to communicate, you. know, and the higher the communication, the higher the confidence is and the. higher the the execution level will go.

up. Yeah, and like the Patriots as an. example, they are terrible in the first. quarter of games. If if you go back and. look at a lot of the games they've won, they're down either after the first 10. minutes or first quarter. >> Slow starter. >> Yeah, always. And then their defense. after the first quarter, the the numbers. are insane. So, I that's why the. adjustment thing feels real, but maybe. not just halftime. >> Now, on that note, you talk about quick. good play call instead of being late. And AJ had the green dot. AJ. What?

I I heard Chase Daniels. Oh my god. I heard Chase I heard Chase I. heard Chase Daniels do a play call in. his helmet what it would be like. I. obviously never got to experience that. That would have been so cool to be able. to have that happen before going out on. the field and then trying to do. something very very difficult. But, now. that I know that you've been this guy. and we know you're super chatty and. stuff like that. So, can you just walk. us Can you walk us through cuz there's. no other mics anywhere. Can you walk us. through what a huddle would be? I'm a. huddle with you here. I want I want to.

feel like I'm in the huddle. I'm I'm a. part of the Green Bay Packers. First off, it's not going to be nearly. the the conversation and communication. that Chase had. Okay. Uh it would be. very very simple. I'd say, Uh tight with me, two buster. Tight with. me, two buster. OKAY, ANY SITUATIONS I. SHOULD BE THINKING ABOUT, LEADER? NO, this is the problem. You actually That's. the thing. When it's going in your ear, you got to say it as the coach is. telling me. So, I'm speaking, but I. can't hear myself as I'm yelling it to. the rest of the whole defense and. repeating it over and over. You I've. seen guys freak out like that and all of. a sudden they get the speaker and it.

starts coming in and they just freak out. and panic and can't tell you the call. I've seen that happen. All right, GIVE. ME ONE MORE. >> [screaming]. >> OH, BOB SANDERS. HE SAID. >> WHAT DID YOU SAY? SHUT UP. TIME OUT. WHAT DID YOU SAY? >> NO, NEVER CALL TIME OUT. >> [laughter]. >> DO YOU HAVE YOUR EARS IN? Never call a. time out. If you're on defense, you call. your favorite blitz or your favorite. defense, buddy, and you tell him, "Sorry, pal, it didn't come through my. speaker." I couldn't hear a word you. were saying. I need you to be louder.

Rock his environment. [clears throat]. >> Jeez, where's your Lambo, BRO? FOURTH. DOWN, OKAY, COACH. YOU HEAR THAT. [ __ ] WE COULDN'T HEAR A WORD YOU. WERE. >> A DEFENSIVE COACH? Can you imagine a. defensive coach? Coach, if a defensive. player called a time out because he. couldn't get the defensive call in, I. would have I would assume you'd be a. little bit upset at me if I'd have done. that. I just Just give us a call, right? I'm just I can give the defensive call. Absolutely. No, you always have to you. always have to have a go-to call, so. >> I was D-tackle there, too. I was turning. around listening to you. Imagine. D-tackle calls time out cuz I can't. hear. Wait, what's a. >> [laughter].

>> Hey, NO. AJ, WHAT'S YOUR FAVORITE GO-TO CALL. THOUGH? IF you couldn't hear, what would. your favorite go-to call? I don't know. It's a little double you know, double A. A-gap blitzers. >> There you go. Why is that? Why is that? Who gets to. go? Well, I would usually I'd go first and. go ram my skull into the first person. and hopefully ricochet into the. quarterback. >> All right, that's awesome. Thank you for. taking us inside the huddle with you, AJ. That was an honor. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> God, Hall of Fame nominee. Got a chance. to hear him. I know. Did you hear that? Chase had a lot of communication in that. one. >> That was much different than the. offensive. >> Well, I couldn't hear a word you were.

saying. Chase had a lot more projection. in his voice. Um did you hear him do. that? What was your play calls like? Let's say, "Oh, here we go. Oh, oh, oh, okay." Yeah, you This is the one you. want to do. Are you talking to me? Yeah, definitely. Oh. Do you want to play call? Favorite one. Need one. No, I'll just go old school. with you. Well, you got to part two. You. got the You got blue right, C left, two. jet flanker drive X corner. Blue right, C left, two jet drive right. there. Down and down and X corner. Brady. Okay, let's get another one. Would you say anything after coach?

Would you say anything after like, "Hey, watch him you know, watch him play in. cover two"? Or did you like if you had. time to. >> George Pickens is balling right now. Get. him the ball. [laughter]. Oh, well, that Well, I'll be honest with. you. I mean, every quarterback that you. know, as far as the play entry, like. some some guys wanted to play. like Brett Favre Brett Brett was like, "Hey, tell me the play. You can talk to me all the way up to 15. seconds." He was. He was He was fine. Now, Rich Gannon. you know, cuz he's one of the guys I. kind of learned with as a quarterback. coach and coordinator is you know, Rich.

Gannon wanted to play and get the hell. off. just get out of my ear cuz he was going. to you know, he was going to talk more. You know, and Aaron was more like Rich. Uh Dak was probably a little more like. it. So, I mean, every guy was a little. different and that was really we called. a play caller's purpose and the the play. caller in a quarterback room, you spend. a ton of time talking about each play. call in the game because you know, you. go through your off season, you put the. plays in and these are for normal down. and distance, but if we use this same. play in third down, then there are.

adjustments that go with it. So, you. know, there's a lot of conversation that. goes on about each and every play with. the quarterback. So, you know, we. you know, the purpose of the play call. So, you always might want to tag a. reminder, you know, you know, with with. that particularly if you're using you. know, a four vertical scheme in first. and second down as opposed to four. vertical scheme in third down because. obviously the coverage will be tighter, you know, the the match up emphasis is. maybe maybe different. You change the. formation, but the concept's the same. So, I think the you know, the the.

biggest thing for quarterbacks and. that's why you know, so much as it goes. into these off season programs is these. conversations. They It's always the. little stuff. It's It's the little. things that you can give you know, not. only you give to the quarterback, but he. can give to the X receiver breaking down. or you know, to the tight end on a. vertical scheme. You know, you know, make sure you hit the inside edge of the. hash, you know, just all those little. coaching reminders. Particularly the. biggest ones, I think that's where you. were going was in protection. You know, your protection adjustments are always. you know, that's really the starting.

point of getting the plate set you know, you set the plate, you know, set the. table, get everything ironed out, make. sure you got a solid protection because. from the passing game standpoint, you. feel if you got a clean pocket, then you. should be able to defeat the defense. Okay, I'd love to hear all that from. your brain. Honestly, thank you for. allowing us in on all that information. That is incredible to hear, especially. from somebody that did it at such a high. level for so damn long. I would need the. wristband, I think, you know, just kind. of getting into the offense, but it's. fourth and eight, okay? Fourth and. eight, 47 seconds left, we have no time.

out, we're on our own 32, okay? I do. have George Pickens and I do have CD. Lamb and I am the quarterback for the. Dallas Cowboys and you need to act as if. I am Brett Favre or Dak. Like I I don't. mind the the reminders here. What would. be your play call? Fourth and eight on. your own 30 whatever it was. 47 seconds. left, no time out, got to have it, we're. down four, okay? We are down four, need. a touchdown and I like you being chirpy, okay? So, I'm in a huddle, please, please.

Okay, you got to just go double double. right, two jet, X knife, Z Puma. Just. You want to get in the two by two, give. you an option based off where they're. going to tilt the coverage because you. got CD on one side. You know, obviously. you got You got George on the other. side. So, if George gets the one-on-one, don't forget we call it. >> Pat. You got to tell the offense the. play, too. He's got He forgot to tell. him the play. >> We don't HAVE A TIME OUT, COACH. WHEN AM. I. >> [laughter]. >> WHEN AM I TELLING THEM THE PLAY? >> TELL HIM THE PLAY AS HE'S telling you. and you're telling him the. >> You said You said chatty, man. I'm I'm. JUST BEING. >> NO, I KNOW, BUT WHEN AM I SUPPOSED TO.

TELL THE BOYS WHAT THE HELL WE'RE DOING? WHAT DO WE. >> HE'S NOT WAITING ON YOU TO RESPOND. He's. wait You got to tell the play. You got. to tell the guy. >> gave I already gave YOU THE PLAY. YEAH, BUT WHEN AM I TELLING THE BOYS WHILE YOU. WHILE YOU'RE TELLING ME ABOUT IF if. George is single right there? So, I I. was explain I was explaining the play. I. I I. Am I done? >> Okay, hey. Double or. double [laughter] right, two jet flanker. drive C Puma. Don't forget about the. one-on-one with George. Take the code. She got it. >> [laughter]. >> Fourth and eight. FOURTH AND EIGHT. YEAH. GOT A FIVE-YARD PENALTY, MAYBE 10-SECOND.

RUN-OFF if things aren't going well. >> [laughter]. >> THIS IS TOUGH STUFF. Oh my god. >> Hey, we need to work on this in the off. season. Sounds It sounds like I need I. need to be paying a little bit more. attention in the off season. That's. insane to think about that right there. >> Yeah, but if you know his scores, you. can just throw it deep, baby. You can. hit CD or George Pickens. We're not getting [laughter] into that. Coach, we appreciate the opportunity. there to kind of dive into what your. life is on a regular basis and and has. been for a long time. [clears throat]. That was cool. I got no shot. I think. I'm more of freestyle, coach. Sure, sure. >> I would be doing, "Can't hear. Can't.

hear. Can't hear.". Well, we've said that before. Yeah, [snorts] yeah, I think that. happens a lot. I think some of the. quarterbacks that have actually done. have come on the show and go like, "Other guys things like they they say. it's all working and it doesn't work. Mine actually go out every single time I. do that." It's like, yeah, sounds like. that's what everybody says. [laughter]. All right, let's go to massive game this. weekend. Obviously, historic type [ __ ]. especially if you look at literally the. history of these two teams. Go ahead, Ty. Yeah, coach, you talked a little bit. ago about the parity in the NFL and. while I think you know, that is. definitely true, coming off a weekend in.

which we had more blowouts since 1970 or. whatever it was, Chiefs and Bills always. deliver no matter what. They've you. know, basically the AFC has kind of come. down to one of these two teams for the. last several years, it seems like. What do you think about this game? How. do you see it going and does this remind. you at all of like maybe Packers when. you were coaching them and Seahawks. where you kind of knew no matter what, you might have a game in the regular. season, but there was a good. championship to come, you know, NFC.

Championship or or you know, what deep. in the playoffs, like you were going to. see this team again? Yeah, definitely. I mean, I we've talked. on the show you know, before about you. know, the division games. I've always. loved the division games cuz they are. always the most competitive games. >> Hell yeah. of the season, but when you. do have the parental playoff you know, contender that you'd see almost. annually, you know, this may even go to. a different level. So, this will this. will play like a playoff game. and that's and that's the way these guys. will you know, they'll view it, but they. won't talk about it because you know,

the intensity is going to be real. because there is history. There's great. history. You got two marquee MVP champ. you know, champion ship level. quarterbacks, you know, that they'll. highlight it, but yeah, this game will. be of tremendous intensity, but. yeah, you always love playing in those. games. I mean, Seattle, I think of. Seattle and Green Bay in particular in. the regular season, you know, the first. thing was where was the game cuz you. know, that was a little bit weird, you. know, the crowd noise still was a. factor. I I think the offenses in.

today's NFL do so such a better job at. the line of scrimmage. And I know it's. something you know, coming out of the. '90s and the early 2000s, you really had. to work on the handle crowd noise cuz. you know, back in the '90s when I was at. the Kansas City Chiefs, I we very rarely. lost a home game cuz we had great. defense, great special teams and. Arrowhead was just impossible to you. know, deal with from a noise standpoint. So, I do think the noise factor is is. always a component that when I I think. back to those Seattle games cuz you. know, we had we had some rough moments.

there up there in Seattle sometimes in. our early days with the noise. Oh my. god, I just thought of four different. rough moments for you guys up in. Seattle. Literally as you said that, just four different puttable. John. Ryan's throwing a touchdown on you. Oh. yeah, that was the big one. John Ryan's. like, "Yes, right here." Yeah. That was. the big one. Can see AJ in that one, too. AJ was in the worst spot possible. on that play. >> Well, that's cuz he called a double A. blitz for himself. >> He did. He did. That's what he did. Coach McCarthy not. happy. >> you guys doing here? I'M SO SORRY. I'm. so sorry. I'm so sorry. [laughter] I'M. SO SORRY. YOU.

WE'RE TRYING to exclamation point your. point that yes, we do remember the times. up in Seattle. Now, on that note, there. were some times in Green Bay. Let's go, baby. Ain't that right, Ty? >> Yeah, definitely. That that NFC. Championship game in Seattle though. That that one will stick with me for the. rest of my life. Like I'm sure it'll. stick with both of these guys. You know how mad Patriots fans were? You. know how mad Patriots fans were? We. finally were going to have Rodgers. versus Brady in the Super Bowl. It was. the most mad I've ever been at the Green. Bay Packers cuz they screwed us. Okay, so let's get away from that. Obviously,

when you're in the game for a long time, these moments are going to happen. Congrats to you both on getting to the. top of the mountain still being. champions for the rest of your lives. >> That's right. Rest of your life cuz. there's some of us you know that never. Okay, I thought you were going to pull. your ring out right there and say that. was it. And. were you I don't know if you were with. the Packers still at the time of the. replacement refs? Were you there for. that? Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, oh. yeah. We were both there. Yeah. Coach, is it hard. >> Man, what do we. >> [laughter]. >> We got to We got to have a better. We GOT TO HAVE A PRODUCTION MEETING OR. SOMETHING.

ALL RIGHT, SO I'M BLEEDING all over THE. PLACE HERE. >> [laughter]. >> I'M SO SORRY. ALL RIGHT, LET'S GET. THROUGH all my worst days, okay? I'm. sorry that we [laughter]. That was a bad day now. That was I know, I understand. I understand. I'm so sorry. I brought this up. But you brought up. the bad days in Seattle. So I'm sorry. that my brain I brought I brought up bad. noise. I didn't say anybody have bad. days. All right, all right. All right, all right. Well, in my head I heard you. say that and then so many bad days. But. and I once again, they popped up in my.

brain. So obviously being a part of it. has to be different. Hey, we will let. you know what's bury the ball. It's bury. the ball. We're going to bury that ball. Okay, two four of them I guess. We're. going to bury four of those balls and. we're going to move on. WE APPRECIATE. YOU PACKERS BOYS. WE appreciate. [applause] you Packers boys. Now, football is awesome. Parity a couple. different times. Go ahead, AJ. Yeah, Pat mentioned parity coach. What. do you think this last week we had a. slate of games where there was a bunch. of blowouts that we don't really see in. the NFL that often I guess. Is there a. reason for this? Is this a time of year. like why do you think we did see so many.

blowouts? Well, I think like you know, a lot of. things that you know, there's a lot of. variables that go into this but it when. when I see stats like this, I I know as. a head coach you know, one of the. hardest thing not hardest things one of. the things you enjoy the most is. competing with the other you know, NFL. coaches uh as far as how you train your. team. So you know, that to have that. that many blowout games you know, at. this point in the season I I think you. got to you got to take a look at it and. why you know, just when you look at the. CBAs uh in what 2011 and 2020 you know,

less time with players and you know, the. youth the NFL is a younger league now. So does that mean also the backups are. younger? Uh you you look at the injury. challenge that you have every single. year. Are we doing a better job helping. in that area as far as the training and. things leading into that the sports. science. I I just think there's so many. factors you know, now you can also say. well, it just timed up that this team. was hot and that team wasn't. You know, but I I I I think these are things the. league really needs to.

pay close attention to cuz I I think. these you can go down a bunch of rabbit. holes here because when you look at the. success of the National Football League. you know, the first thing is you look at. the money and the money is just is off. the charts. It's it's it's greater than. it's ever been but I mean, is the. quality of play? How do how are you. evaluating the quality of play? So when. you when you see things like this I know. I know for me personally, I go right to. the training, okay? You know, or or you. know, it's. there's so much that goes into how you. train your team in the off-season.

program, how you train your team in. training camp how your in-season. training cuz you know, all the. adjustments you have to make with this. injury challenge the development of the. the the back half of your team because. you know, your younger players your. backup players are you are you spending. money on the middle class of free agency. for for your backup players or you also. solely you know, investing clearly in. the young players as the backup too. So. all these different components play into. it and I just think when you get there, you'll see you'll see the separation in. the competitive level when you and you.

have games like this. So I hope this is. just an accident you know, but I think. you it's a bit alarming is the quality. of play. We talked about September. football and I I felt September football. has been you know, not not very good and. in the in the last 10 12 years, you. know, didn't really pay attention to it. that much in my early years as a head. coach but I also I I started to you know. trying to uh train differently in in the. in training camp to to do certain things. in September just cuz it cuz I just. think that's the way this thing's gone.

because less time with players and. coaches does not equal weight to higher. quality play. I don't I don't care what. the what the numbers say you know, what. what what goes into it and I think some. that that is showing up here that's. rearing its head more and more in my. opinion uh as we move move forward here. I I just wish there could be more time. particularly even if it's just with the. younger players. And AJ, you got to our. experience in Green Bay and we had the. thing called vet select and the vets. were thought it was great that they were.

you know, getting some time off and. things like that but the the other side. of that was giving the coaching staff. more time with the younger players. So. these younger players are playing more. and more each and every year they're. playing earlier uh especially if you. also you know, if your roster. you know, development or your profile is. that you're young all the way through. you know, particularly even with your. backups you know, where where is the. extra training to to to make sure these. guys are ready to play because let's. also you know, let's throw in the the. injuries. You know, when guys aren't.

totally ready to play, they play what? With a little less confident little less. confident player on the NFL field. and injury risk can go up. So I just. think there's a lot of rabbit holes you. can run through here when you see a. statistic like last week. That's the. first thing that hit me. I was like, wow, I mean that's that's that's. something you got to continue to talk. about. First. >> Now with that being said, they're not. you know they're making more money than. ever have so nothing's going to change. So thanks for giving me a chance to. you know, just add a little bit here. Now you're sticking up for coaches. there. Sticking up for coaches a lot.

there. >> No, absolutely. Coaches get They don't. have enough time with their players. >> Exactly, but players get drafted off of. potential and then what do the coaches. say? Well, potential gets your ass. fired. Potential is only really. potential if you have the ability to. work and get to that, you know, and. that's where the coaches come in. Coaches are getting judged on that. On. hey, this was the potential this is. where he's at this is on the coaches. And then the coaches are like, you guys. have cut into all of our all of our. training time and I think what you're. hearing from coach McCarthy there is not. just him but the coaching community as a. whole when it comes to the NFL whenever.

you talk about the new CBA the amount of. training time will drop this off will. cut this off and the people that are. making those decisions you're saying are. only worried about what percentage of. the money are either side getting and. what is the money as opposed to what the. product is on the field which is. literally all the coaches are being. judged about. Is that an accurate take. on why you feel that way? No, absolutely. No, that's I mean that's. part of it but I mean you know, we we. get into this profession and understands. the the risk. So I mean, it's it's not. as much about that. I just you know, we. want to be the best that we can be and.

and and the biggest thing about coaching. is developing every player to his full. stability, you know, physically, mentally and emotionally. And less time. with those players does. it it it it doesn't help that cause. So. I just I would just like to see more. time with the players, you know, uh. particularly in the off-season and and. frankly more padded work, you know, more. more padded work in training camp. >> Wow, are you making a guardian for. shoulder pads, huh? Mhm. And thigh pads. and I know the tailbone pad may be. disappeared. We need to bring that back.

too for you. Yeah, absolutely. Maybe. bubble ball. Oh, there we go. Maybe. bubble ball in the off-season. You guys. will get the physicality and the reps. Players get the safety cuz you could put. them in those things. >> Yeah. They could do walk-throughs, you. know what I mean? They everybody could. kind of get blown up in those as well. Don't you think that could be important? But you know they're not going to let. more training take place like in that. kind of. >> No, I know. I I I just think the. offensive line has been at disadvantage. and and I could just I I don't know if I. said this on the show before it I can.

remember when I was on the coaches. Madden committee and and you know, the. late great John Madden would always. bring it up and he'd say how can we help. these offensive linemen? I mean, they're. at such a disadvantage coming out of. training camp uh because you know, they. you know, they have the least amount of. time to get ready to you know, to do. their job because of you know, you know, only a certain amount of. padded practices, you know, where the. off-season the the perimeter guys can. still work on their footwork, their. timing and you know, there's there's a. lot more training opportunity for the.

perimeter players. Yeah, and you're if you're. uh going to be a good team, you're going. to have to have a good offensive line. If you're going to be an ass team, it's. probably cuz you have an ass offensive. line. That's kind of uh that's kind of. how the football goes at this point, coach McCarthy and uh Always has. It. always has. That's football, baby. That's football, coach, right here. That's what football is.

Always will be. Where's game one, coach? Where's game one? Where's game one? I mean, tranches. Mhm. Got to be able to fight somebody in. there, coach. That's football until the. very end. No matter how much they soften. IT NO MATTER HOW MUCH THEY TRY TO CHANGE. THE RULES YOU'RE ALWAYS GOING TO HAVE TO. BE ABLE TO PUNCH SOMEBODY in the face. better than the other team. It's what. you're going to have to be able to do in. football until the end. Amen. No matter. how much they change rules, that is. literally why football is football and. if you look at the teams that win they.

are able to fight and win over your. team. And you look at the Philadelphia. Eagles last year. I mean, that was just. like the perfect epitome of old school. football coming back in the biggest way. here in 2025. They say cyclical. Right. now we're about to see SOME POUNDING. HAPPEN. POUND TIME. BIG POUND TIME. >> [screaming]. >> EVERY EVERY POUND'S TURNING INTO POUND. TIME. COACH CARR, YOU KNOW WHAT I'M. TALKING ABOUT. >> 24/7. YEAH, YEAH, you know what I'm. talking about. But No, I just think I mean, you look at. the playoff teams every year. You know, look at their offensive.

defensive lines. I mean, it's clearly. evident. Go to pound. You don't you. don't make it in the playoffs if you. can't if you if you're not able to get. it done. You know, it's uh. it it'll never change. You know, and I. think with the the run Philadelphia's on. you know, their offensive line this this. last decade has been so impressive and I. think it it gives you the opportunity to. have consistency and just their level of. consistency here the last 5 years is is. unbelievable. Yeah, I think your. population of pound time needs to be a. tough group. Mhm. And that is just what.

pound time in the tranches Yeah. got to. be a tough group of citizens that you. got on your squad if you're going to. want to win. Now, who you bringing in to. the team maybe if you want to go on a. real run and who the hell are you. getting out if your team stinks maybe. and is absolute shite? Tone has a. question for you coach. >> the next time we talk to you the trade. deadline will have passed and and. obviously your time with the Packers as. head coach the trade deadline was much. different than it was when you were with. the Cowboys just a year ago. How has the. trade deadline changed and what is the. responsibility of a head coach during.

the trade deadline? Well, I mean the biggest thing is I. think people don't really. understand how much conversation these. personnel departments, you know, that's. going on. I mean that's that's been the. same that you know every place I've ever. worked. So there's a tremendous amount. of conversation that goes on. I mean. that's just really those guys doing. their jobs and really. from my experience, you know, it really. gets to the head coach when you when. it's really. becomes a possible and viable option. So. you know, we didn't do a lot of it at.

all in Green Bay. There's you know, more. conversation in in Dallas. you know, during that period of time. So. but you know, it's it really it really. comes down to you know, how can this. player help us you know, at that. particular time and then there's also. the financial component to it from a. long-term standpoint. So but you know, these personnel departments they do a. hell of a job. There's a tremendous. amount of communication goes out there. you know, someone had asked me does do. you ever have to talk to players about.

you know, when their names out there in. the public as far as you know, being. part of a trade talks you know, I really. didn't have too many of those situations. because I think really players in my. experience lean on their agents at that. time you know, because it you know, there's a network of communication that. goes on you know, throughout this period. and it obviously heightens with the. trade deadline in front of you. Coach. feels like you handle every situation. impeccably. If any university was to. reach out to coach McCarthy and get him. as the head coach not saying you would I.

think they would win immediately. And if. any NFL team was to reach out to coach. McCarthy, I think they become a winning. organization immediately. We love the. hell out of you coach and it's not just. because we think you could win anywhere. you were to go coach again because. that's what you've done your entire. career and that you're a Yinzer. It's. also cuz you helped us win brother. Now, we won't be able to make this pick in. the next minute 15 and it's not actually. a pick. It's actually just listening to. coach McCarthy describe how he thinks. tonight's game's going to go. And if he. was to be making a pick off of what how. we hear his words. Like we're basically.

making pick for him whenever he. describes a word. he'd be five and three right now. And that's not bad. We won't BE ABLE TO. GET THAT IN HERE IN THE final moment uh. coach McCarthy chit-chatting about that, but we will continue digitally on. YouTube uh Tik Tok live uh I think we're. also on ESPN plus and Disney plus. and. Disney plus all those digital things we. will continue and coach McCarthy will uh.

break down what the game's going to. happen and uh we got 30 seconds to fill. here coach until the ESPN show ends. Any. messages for the cafes or restaurants. out there that are following along. across the country coach McCarthy? Yeah, quickly five and three that's. [ __ ] but we ain't got time to get. into that. But. >> [laughter]. >> Baltimore I think clearly is is getting. healthy. Now Miami you look at these two. teams statistically [laughter] there's a. lot there's a lot to sort through here, but I like I I I think Baltimore is um.

you know, I I watched them play you. know, last week I like I like what. they're doing. I think getting Lamar. back you know, staying balanced on. offense is serving well. Um but I I. don't even know what the points are. You. usually tell me what the points but. >> Seven and a half seven and a half coach. Yeah, seven and a half. Yeah coach. Division game is tough with all those. points. Oh, Tua's fresh off he's wearing a visor. again. Clean. >> He's wearing a visor again.

Explain now. I I I really I really like Miami's. Miami's front. I I think you know, clearly you look at them on paper. they're starting to produce. I mean the. pass defense is something that it'll be. interesting if Baltimore tries to get. after them there. Um but you know, both. teams run the ball well. Uh turnover. ratio probably be a a big big deal in. this. I think one's minus five and one's. minus six. So you know, whoever takes. care of the football will probably. prevail tonight. So there's some re re. re re re re re re. revolutionary comment right there. Yeah,

it is. It really is revolutionary you. know, because the stat you need to look. for is the turnovers normally and see. who wins the game. I forget what the. percentages are, but if you win a. turnover battle by like two I think it's. like a 75% Yeah, yeah I think whatever. yeah. And then three plus is some absurd. number and then obviously if you're able. to take care of it. Let's go to one half. of the hammer. Cowboys at Bubba Gumpino. What did you. hear coach McCarthy saying there? How's. he think the game's going to go and what. are your thoughts on his thoughts? Sounds like he was leaning Baltimore. until the spread was spoken of. So I.

think he's leaning Fins to keep it tied. tonight by the sounds of things. >> Yeah, he said that both teams can run. the ball well. We heard him talk about. the trenches earlier. AJ, what did you. hear from former ball coach here what he. was saying? I heard the coach might be. leaning Baltimore. He said they're. getting healthy. Lamar is going to wants. to put on a show and he thinks that you. know, that Dolphins maybe it may that. win may have gone over their head a. little bit. They're taking them easy. That's interesting. So Gumpy says one. way, AJ says the other way. Uh and toxic table are you just as. befuddled as I am in this entire process. Tone? Well, like we mentioned you know,

with it being seven and a half and kind. of starting on Baltimore I I. it's not division game. That's not you know, it's not it's not. too many points for a division game. So. uh I think coach is going to stick with. the Ravens here. Yeah, it's the league's. put up or shut up game of all time you. could argue. You know, Lamar put up or. shut up. You got rid of all of our fun. games. You better go out there and play. your ass off and on the other side is. Tua. You know, you've been run you've. been bumping your gums about how. leadership sucks and you know, you got a. huge on Sunday. You can go from one and.

six and to three and six in six days. Time to put up or shut up. Yeah, I think. it is big time put up or shut up. Put up toys. or shut up. for Baltimore. Put up something or just see you. I. guess it's [clears throat] kind of how. Dolphins fans might be feeling. So how's he feel you think? I don't. know. He's big put up or shut up guy. feels like. I think he just had a. homecoming back to Pittsburgh. He know. Lamar's having a homecoming back down in. Miami. You think he's in a big night for.

the purple and black. Oh, cuz he had a. great night back in Pittsburgh. That. team. that team in the homecoming didn't have. the best night. The anyway team. Oh. yeah, you're right in the ass uniforms. The dog right behind you is beautiful. What's the name of the dog? That is Gus. OH WHAT A NAME. GREAT DOG. YEAH. UH YEAH, he's a great dog. Is that. a. is that a. is that a majestic golden retriever. that's all white like Peter and uh and.

and Ben rest in peace and Mitch and. Herbstreit's type dog is that what that. is if I'm looking at it accurately? That's a yellow lab. He's a yellow lab. He's a hunter hunting dog. How is he? How old? Uh seven seven years old. Oh master. master champion yeah. What? What's that? He's a master champion. He's got his. he's got his 11 uh He golf medals. So. yeah. Okay, master champion what? So he. goes to Augusta what what what He's a. bird dog. Yeah, he's a bird dog.

Oh, so he gets the bird he he gets a. bird faster than any other dog? Yeah, duck pheasant yeah, he's. Are you are we. are we duck jumping with him as well As. soon as I get off his damn show I'm. going. >> [laughter]. >> going duck hunting. HOLD ON ONE SECOND. SORRY, I'M SLOWING UP YOUR DUCK HUNT. OBVIOUSLY PAUL. WE DO the entirety of it. all. Are you calling ducks as well? Are. you calling ducks as well? No. No, I'm I am an amateur when it comes to. bird hunting. So And you got a 11 time. champion. How's this get matched? Does. does Gus lead you to duck hunt or you.

lead Gus to duck hunt? How does this go? He he he he he he he he he he he he he. he he he he he he he he he he he he he. he he he he he he he he he he he he he. he he he he he he you know, he's bred to. be a champion. So I I let him FULFILL. HIS DREAMS. >> [laughter]. >> 11 TIMES. NO, HE'S A GOOD DOG. NO, he's a you got. to you got to get 11 ribbons. That's. what his 11 ribbons. You got to you got. to go through the different. classifications to get to get the master. champion. >> Oh, like karate I get it. Dungeons and. Dragons. Black belt of bird hunting. Dungeons and Dragons obviously. valedictorians do that. Okay, we. appreciate the hell out of you coach. You're the man Mike Yeah.

Good luck on the duck hunt. Wait wait wait, what's his pick? Oh. yeah, you know what who do you like? Oh. yeah. Oh, he's muted. He's muted. No no no. [laughter]. Who's [clears throat] my pick? Yeah. So it's it's seven and a half? That's not I'm going to go against the. grain here. I'm going to go Baltimore. Wow. Not a division game. Yeah, we. appreciate you. I don't like that's a lot of points, but. Hey. I think I like Lamar going home. I think. that's I think that's going to Yep, see. Are we in a blind? Where are we? Where.

are we headed to? How many do you get to. shoot? Carson gone. Oh, he's gone. The ducks got you. The ducks got you. That's him fighting back quack quack. You're in a blind? Yes, we'll be in a blind. Okay, how many people? What? I'll let you know if I go. >> [laughter]. >> Too many questions. Yeah, [laughter]. enough of this [ __ ] Okay? What's with all of this damn show?

What's with all the questions? What's. with all the questions? >> [laughter]. >> For a good attorney good up here. That. is hilarious cuz we went with him until. like 1:45 every week. I bet after that. he just looking down at his clock like. We're still going. The [ __ ] going on. here? We're [laughter] supposed to be. done at 2:00. We [ __ ] it up. I guess it's 1:00. central and where he is, right? Oh yeah. 1:00 pick up for duck hunt. Yeah, still. got to. Gus is waiting on me. He's tapping his leg.

Could you imagine him booping them. underneath the table? Hey, [clears throat] hey, hey, hey, false ribbon on the way. >> What do you want me to do? Gossip I'm. trying to get the [ __ ] out of here. These guys can't take the hint. >> [laughter]. >> All right, so he picked Baltimore? Yeah. Mhm. >> Baltimore. He's the best, dude. College started that way. I would have. taken He could do it. Assistant coaching. job at Pitt 25 years they would have. offered that for me. I would do it. You're taking it. You. just give me a regular price rate for. the time that we're in for 20 Yeah, I'll. take it. You just get what? Medium price.

just the way It's calm place like. Patricia on offense except times a. thousand. Just creating a a monster. there. Yeah, they're never leaving. >> [laughter]. >> Actually, I'm just going to stay. coordinator here. Yeah. >> He could go Wisconsin. Right in his backyard. >> played tight end himself. He was a tight. end in college. Gosh, so was MCDC. So was Vrabel. Mhm. So was JJ Watt. Dicker. So was Dicker. Mike McDaniel.

He did not, okay. Oh, [ __ ] You got You. >> Slot receiver I was thinking. Yes, exactly. He's running routes with McVay. out there. Mhm. Shout out Yale. Shout out Yale. >> Shout out very smart people and shout. out to the Miami Dolphins. All right, Gumpy, we're going to make our picks and. let's get the hell out of here. Um. Gumpy, you say what as Tone tells us the. percentage that is on the public and the. percentage that is with the sports book. and uh any other fun factoids about. tonight's Thursday night football. battle. Uh tonight the Ravens are minus.

seven and seven and a half headed down. to Hard Rock. They are getting 69%. of the bets against this rate which is. the same exact percentage as the Chiefs. on Monday night when they took care of. business down there. Uh it is seven and. a half across the board. You cannot get. it any other way. Okay, over under 51. and a half. Where does that rank amongst. >> That's pretty high. It's pretty high NFL. total. Especially for football. They're. both over teams though. Mhm. Go on, Gump. >> Okay. Dolphins been over. Their defense.

looked better last week. Like I said, I've been saying it all week they. started using six old lineman. They. average over seven yards a play when. they did that. They got to stick with. it, but if they fall behind and they get. pass happy, that's when they're going to. get into trouble. Your confidence level pretty high? I've been so negative when they lose. that since they won and looked so good, I got to ride the wave. I got to support. the boys right now. Malik Washington. touchdown tonight is plus 400, I think. He's been the second guy since Tyreek. has got hurt. He returns kicks and. punts. He's electric. Sixth rounder out.

of Virginia last year. I love him. >> I had a baby, Gump. Make him guppy. Is. Marlon Humphrey playing playing? Do we know? Don't. >> Playing ping pong? Yes, that's what I'm. saying. Not playing ping pong. >> He's on that field. >> They're not playing ping pong over. there. I We appreciated Lamar being the one. coming out and saying it was me. We We. were taking TVs out of there. I'm a. sicko. We don't need the Yeah, Mr. Steve. All right, then. Uh Mr. Steve, thank you for the TVs. Mr. Steve, we. love your TVs, but. just can't have them. Take the remotes. Unplug them. >> [laughter]. >> Can't have power to the locker room. We.

need to lock in. They do, but people. think they're going to. People think. they're going to. Sports books think. they're going to lock in and going to. run. I think that's just because of our. belief on who this Baltimore Ravens team. is even though this year with our eyes. We're getting pretty deep in the season. now. Okay, we're doing our midseason. awards. Mhm. Okay, we're getting pretty. deep into the season. Our eyes are kind. of telling us something that maybe they. aren't who we thought they were. And. does that make sense because we haven't. seen them with Lamar over the last few. weeks? No. So that's why tonight on. prime time with the world watching Lamar.

return to Miami, he's going to go. absolutely ham. AJ Hawk, is that what. you're expecting from Lamar Jackson? Uh. yes, that would be my prediction. I'm. taking the Ravens minus seven and a half. on the road tonight. I think Lamar I. think he comes out there and you know, it's a He's a jolt of energy for this. Ravens team and they play well on. offense and defense. >> Uh I will be doing the exact same. strictly because I've been, you know, traveling with a Miami Dolphins fan. I. feel like I know this Dolphins team. pretty well. I feel I feel like I.

I know their players. I know the way. they operate. I know the way ownership. likes to operate. I know the way general. manager {slash} president {slash} guy. who has a lot of say for a long time. down there likes to operate. Just. certain things I think not necessarily. every single day of his life or their. lives, just their worst decisions for. sure. I'm hearing about those on a. regular basis. And then my eyes see some. stuff. It's like, yeah, that seems to. match up with everything that I'm. hearing from, you know, lifelong fan of. team who is just, "What are we doing?

What are we doing?" From the off season. when they trade away all their good. players. and then said, "Yeah, yeah, we're going. to try to win this year.". It's like, "Well, yeah, we got to figure. it out. Did you guys get rid of like the. the drama that was in there?" No, no, Tyreek's still on Yeah, we got rid of. actually the the people that liked this. team and were like like proud to be on. the team. So it's like, "Okay, so what. is the plan down there?" And then it. starts going the way that it's going and. you immediately think to yourself like I. guess Miami Dolphins fans could probably. say that this was going to be ass from. the very beginning, but they had a blind.

optimism strictly because they had seen. success in the past. And in my eyes, they have a huge win against Falcons. That was awesome. Massive. Huge win. Is. that Is that enough to just swing the. pendulum to be able to stop the Lamar. Jackson momentum that's coming that. everybody's expecting including sports. books who are risking a lot of money by. saying they think he's going to come. back and dominate and they seemingly are. right on a regular basis. I uh. I like the Baltimore Ravens as well. And. this Miami Dolphins experiment thing is.

going to be fun to talk about like 10. years from now. Like it is good cuz they could still. become They have all the talent down. there. For sure. And legitimately just. like Dolphins fans were able to sell. themselves on this Dolphins team, that's. still all there. Now granted no Tyreek. Hill, uh so that is a game changer for. his electricity, but still offensive. innovation, a quarterback that can make. great decisions, get the ball out. quickly. Defense can make some stops. Got some special teams. We've been able. to win games in the past. It's like this. Dolphins team has everything that could. get And Waddle's faster than everybody. still. And you know, we we hope to see a.

lot of Waddle and you know, I we hope to. see Waddle with a Waddle in the end zone. a couple different times just because he. is electrifying. So you can get caught. up in the wait a minute. The Miami. Dolphins are the team and maybe they are. and maybe tonight they prove it to. everybody that what you had seen with. them isn't actually who they is. And. then on the flip side of that. maybe last week was the anomaly. You know? Possible. And maybe this Baltimore. Ravens team figures out how to play. defense. Yeah.

I like the Baltimore Ravens tonight. minus seven and a half strictly because. I can bet on Lamar Jackson with a clear. conscience. And it's tough for me to do that on the. other side. That's fair. There was one. other massive change last week. Frank. Smith, the OC, first time in two years. he was down on the field with the guys. He's talking to the boys. And he was. actually the reason Darren Waller said. he'd only come out of retirement to play. for him or Jon Gruden. So that made a. big difference last week as well. Best. the offense has looked all year. Coach.

Smith down on the sideline? Frank, you said? Big Frank Smith, yeah. Mhm. Francis Smith, they say whenever. he's around Yeah. The boys feel it. I. just didn't want to leave anything out, you know. Wait, is big Mike calling. plays or is big Frank calling plays? What's that? Big Mike McDaniel calling. plays or is big Frank calling plays? It's a Mike and Frank duo. Okay. I think [clears throat] it's little Mike. too since we have a big Mike. Big Mike was great on the show today. Yeah. Yeah. He was so good today. You think. he's going duck hunting?

I mean, he's got a [ __ ] 11 time. award-winning dog. >> Yeah, you hope so. Like if he was if he. was not duck hunting, they'd be wasting. that dog. >> Yeah. Like actually, you know what I. mean? And all that. >> to train him. That's what a dog's. trained to do. You need to take him out. That's what he wants. It's his drive. >> All that dog wants to do is just go get. a go get a bird. >> Yes. Yes. Wakes up, how much longer. [snorts] until I get a chance to go get. this [ __ ] bird? >> He just wakes up, see ball, get ball. Bingo. >> He's like AJ woke up, see ball, get. ball. AJ actually woke up and said, "Let. me punish myself in this weight room for. two hours to showcase that I still have.

discipline and I'm humble. Then [laughter] let me go get a. >> ball, get ball. Yeah. Then he when he got drafted, he was. coming right out of the weight room. They said he was So then Andrew Brandt. said. No. I know it's forget it. AJ comes in. dripping in sweat from a workout. I say, "Do you want to go through this?" He. goes, "No, I assume my agent got it." I. was Yep. >> [clears throat]. >> Sign on the dotted line. I just want to. play football in the weight room. Point. me to the weight room. Click clack, dude. Also, they're paying. me so much. >> [laughter]. >> Yeah, you're right, yeah. Always. Hey, you had a good click clack moment there.

for a long time. That was a good ad. campaign. >> Oh, yeah. Fantastic. >> That was really good. I'm still We're. still talking about it. The youngs will never understand. >> No. when click clack came through. Mhm. Changing [clears throat] cleats game, dude. First year they Yeah, first year. they they had football cleats. It was my. rookie year. What was another game-changing. commercial with sounds? The squeak. basketball? >> Yeah, the Nike basketball ones, yep. The. the. >> Budweiser frogs. Great one. Great. The. basketball so Christmas jingle where. they're shooting threes and it's just.

>> Oh, yeah. Clydesdales Clydesdales during. Christmas time. Yep. Good sounds. >> For Coca-Cola. Click clack. Good sounds. That was kind of a click clack, too. Yeah, those are good Super Bowl. commercials. They need to do that I'm. not getting anybody to. >> Bud Bud Light's dude. Yeah, well, it was kind of short-lived. >> Apple had a run where they were just Uh. the one where the the guy basically just. goes around and like his buddies are. doing stuff that pisses him off and he. just keeps saying like, "Dude." And you. know, it's like a. Those were classic. >> And then what was the other one? Budweiser had the was uh Yeah.

That [screaming] was huge. Yeah, yeah. That was the Dudley Boys, right? Well, then more so afterwards I I the Dudley. Boys I didn't even know what it was. Apple had a good run where they were. just like coming out with banger songs. that no one had ever heard of before, but they were sick. >> Yeah, that was great. Come along. Mhm. Yeah, that was one of them. Still listen. to it every single day. From the moment. I heard it on here. Damn. Yeah, where did they find him? That's Jimmy Iovine, I guess. Yeah, Apple Music. He's got the ear.

Yeah, that's what they say. There's. other people who say he couldn't hear. much [ __ ] could he? I saw those on the. internet, but hey, you're always going. to have that. Governor Jeff Landry, thanks for stopping by today. Like you. got. busy man. Busy man. He's going to have to change. all of everything. Yeah. And also a gator or two going to have to. die doing that. Yes, they are. Ain't that right, AJ? That's absolutely. right. Right. Does he have his own gator farm? Do we know? The whole state? Yeah. >> Yeah. Yes, [laughter] you're right. He does.

He rules over the land. He can go. everywhere he wants. Louisiana. Louisiana, yeah. We can go hunt That's. what I like. >> [laughter]. >> He did. >> an airboat parked in his front driveway. I've been down in Louisiana. I want. hoggin', froggin', and uh. holing, right? Uh uh Definitely with. holing. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Whatever it's. called. Yeah, isn't it called holing? >> holing. Yeah, you can go frog holes. Uh. it's called uh nodeling? nodeling Oh, noodling. Yeah, you shouldn't be doing that around.

gators, they say. >> And don't stick your noodle in a hole. Yeah. Nice. That is what they say. And it's. >> [snorts]. >> Yeah, I think that is what they say. Banana to mouth, not mouth to banana. Bingo. That's what they say. All right. All right, here we go. That's what they say. I think either way it might look. similar. Nope. Yep, you try it out. there, AJ. >> Tone, show us. Show us, Tone. I'm not. your guinea guinea banana. Jeez. >> [laughter]. >> No, you're my guinea banana.

Okay. All right. Get it? I'm Italian. NO, NO. >> [laughter]. >> WOAH! WOAH! WOAH! WOAH! WOAH! WOAH! WOAH! WOAH! WOAH! WOAH! HEY! HEY! HEY! HEY! HEY! HEY! HEY! HEY! HEY! HEY! HEY! HEY! HEY! HEY! HEY! HEY! HEY! HEY! HEY! JEEZ. A little bit. It's Halloween. You can. say whatever you want. >> Happy Halloween, everybody. Happy. Halloween. Happy Halloween. Tone's got a. new mustache, new face. Did you see that. AJ? That's big day for Yeah, he looks. good. It does look Honestly, every time. he cuts it, it looks very different. It's It's weird. >> It's true. Yeah, beard to mustache does. kind of change He went Didn't you just.

go beard full beard to nothing on us one. time? Did that happen? I think it was close. >> Like Tom Selleck right now. That's cool. You do look good. That's a good beard or. mustache, I mean. Selleck. He did it. Monica Geller. Hey, JC took that thing. tight, too. Yeah, yeah. I told him got to take it. down. You see Skelly's here. Nice. return. Man, so those kids took that giant thing. out of AQ's yard and then brought it. back, obviously. >> Yeah, one of them. They tried to get two. of them, but that son of a [ __ ] on the. other side fought back. >> Yep. We got Oh, so we got trick-or-treat.

tonight. It's getting some better. monsoon since last night. It's still. going, yeah. Tonight, I thought it was. on Friday. Everybody did does it. >> No, hey, come on. It's a hot You don't. trick-or-treat on Friday night because. there's high school football on Friday. night. No one There's no one's ever done. that here. God, that's awesome. I didn't. even think about it. Love that. >> You're lost, brother. Wait a minute. >> No, we don't need trick-or-treats. It's. a great added weeknight that feels like. a weekend night. No, definitely. In my. mind, in my head, and I think back as a. young lad, young boy. I think about middle of the week. Halloween is what I think about.

>> were young, it actually never fell on. the weekend. I don't know if that's true or not. Stat. that. It did kind of feel like that. It. felt like that, though. Yeah. Yeah, cuz. you go to school, obviously do the. thing, and then you have the night It. was like a full thing. >> Feel like [ __ ] at school the next day. always cuz you ate so much candy the. night before. Exactly. Felt so cool. staying up real, real late. Yeah. Also. hustling. This one's for my brother's. sick. You know. Two different. pillowcases. He's at home. He wasn't able to call. this for my brother. He's sick. Got the. flu. It's terrible. Thank you.

Big They got big candy bars here. As my brother and my sister, too. >> [laughter]. >> Yep. I have to go and collect these. things. What a time. Halloween was. legendary. Yeah, so fun. So much [ __ ]. happened around Halloween when you just. look back in your In my life, at least. So many I mean, college, Jesus Christ. I. mean, yeah, right. Morgantown I know. there's other places to talk about it. There Everybody was celebrating. Yeah. Yeah. There's There's people that don't. celebrate Halloween. I'm like, what the. [ __ ] happened? >> Crazy. You're not Did you know that if.

you go to a Catholic school, the day. after Halloween is always off? All. Saints' Day. Oh, [snorts and sighs] brilliant. Some of these things were just really. smart. Some of these What's tonight, though? Oh. No, last night. No, it's not. Devil's Night. Which started in Detroit. Detroit, Michigan. Sorry, tonight is. Devil's Night, which I I think. I don't know. The way we kind of viewed. it is young reckless teens was purge, basically. Okay? Yeah. Tonight, we can. kind of just go and do whatever the [ __ ]. we want. Can't kill anybody, but I mean, we can certainly run a little wild shot.

right now. >> No rules aside from that. Yeah, we can. certainly do some stuff here. People are going to be on guard. Got to. look for them. Mhm. There's going to be. people waiting. >> My old man used to sit on the front. porch with a BB gun. Bingo. Those are. the guys you can't run into. Yeah, that'll get you. That'll be a bad. Devil's Night. You don't want to hear that. You You. show up Halloween there in school, what. happened? Mr. Maraldo. >> [laughter]. >> And nobody Nobody needs to be going. there, okay? Golly. Yeah, big Frank's out there with his. boots and his gun.

>> [laughter]. >> Yeah, that was Those were good times, man. Halloween's a great holiday. And I. appreciate Tyler the One celebrating. this morning. Yeah, he did a great job. >> That was great work. Six different. costumes. I texted Will Compton in the. middle of this. I'm like, yo. Just kind of let him do it. Like it's I. think it's kind of his It was like his. He did have. Oh, yeah? He had a hot dog in it. Mhm. That was. That was going long-haired biker guy. Then he got the uh I think he's supposed. to That was from Tim Robinson. I believe. that was supposed to be Macho Man. Yeah. Savage? Or Hulkster. I forget which one.

It was supposed to be Macho Man. He. actually apologized for the low quality. of it later. Holy [ __ ] man. Okay, that. was the first one, too, right? Wasn't. it? Yeah, right out the gate. >> Oh, no. Should have Can't be having to. explain who you are. Right out the jump. He had GOOD THIS IS CAPTAIN YEAH, Captain Taylor Lewis. Yeah, yeah. I. think that was good. Pirate, referee, great one. Obviously average Joe's is. good. These are good. Great Will. Will we see? Yeah, these are. all good. Great costumes. The first one. was It was supposed to be Macho Man.

Oh, I didn't know that. I wasn't. watching at the time. I only saw the. picture. Okay, I see it. Do you? Seven costumes. >> missed it. Ooh, yeah. Yeah, I don't know if he even tried to. do that. >> Smart. Painful. But. This is what we're talking about here. Hey, good effort, though. Good effort. I. like that he did it. >> [applause]. >> I like that he did it. I appreciate He loves Halloween. They. got the spooky. He's all in on it. I really respect it. I do. Halloween, good time, man. Also,

NFL teams all gathering. Mhm. Yes. You. can learn a lot about team Halloween. party. That's a good time. Middle of. season check here. You know, you talk. about like. draft day where they're like birthday. party, the whole conversation about that. with that quarterback coming out. It's. like team check here. Halloween, how's. it How's it How's it checking out? Which. is why I think Now, I think there were. some punishments that were levied upon. certain teams. During COVID, whenever. you saw some teams gathering, it was. like, oh, these boys really [ __ ] like. each other. Like I Don't you think so, AJ? I I think that we can really judge a. team from that, I think. Yeah, one of.

your Absolutely. If I'm a head coach. right now, I would I would be I mean, I. would be questioning the guys the next. day afterwards. Hey, how did How did it. go? How was Halloween party? Guys, anyone, you know, was a bit of a. runaway, maybe. If you guys stay. Hopefully you stayed you know, you were. safe, but I want you guys to have a good. time together. >> Also, who wasn't there? Can we talk. about that? Who wasn't Trade deadline is. Tuesday. Who's pouting? Who's pouting. and didn't show up? Trade deadline is. Tuesday. So, who who Just so we can get. a nice little Send them out. a visit to. Tyler. And I'm not saying you're getting traded. cuz you're not at the Halloween party. Obviously people have lives and families. and [ __ ] like that. But on that note, if.

there is somebody that is not maybe. playing as well and also not getting. along with the boys, I'm not saying. that's going to immediately lead to a. trade, but it certainly wouldn't affect. it. Think about it. It certainly would. affect. And then there are some I don't. know, maybe not anymore, but there was. an era of people making decisions about. teams that didn't even think about. whether or not these humans would get. along or like each other or they. like-minded. Like that is something that. was happening for a little bit. Feels. like we've kind of gone away from that. from every. gatekeeper we talk to, at least. AJ, don't you think they I would hope so.

They at least say they do. They at least. claim that they're. worried about the character and if the. person how they're how they would fit in. the locker room. I think they I think. the majority of the the guys bringing. people in absolutely do think about. that. I don't think everybody does, but. the majority do. I think you have to. I think Halloween is a good thermometer. Cuz maybe you [ __ ] like cards you. give back to the whole team. Treat the. whole team. Good. How many There was no. Halloween party? Who hosted Halloween. party? Uh one of the trainers had a gather.

Nobody on. What The quarterback didn't even. Oh, no. Do we think your controversial. guest held a Halloween party this year? He always does, right? He does love. Halloween. He. He actually got into a little bit of a. quagmire. >> He did get into a bit of a quagmire. Because he's very public stance on which. part of the entire jab he was on. Certainly said, "You're not allowed to. gather around the others if that's how. you're going to operate with your things. in charge of your body.".

>> Yeah. Was he right in the end of the. day? >> Well, listen, everybody's going to be. right somehow. I don't know, but I think. he certainly feels vindicated by a lot. of things he has seen and read, yeah. Absolutely feels vindicated. >> Yeah, but everybody else Everybody's. good right, which goes back to. You guys need a scoreboard over there. >> [laughter]. >> Hey, you They need a scoreboard in. boxing. I don't know the world okay, politics world well enough. I've gotten. to the point now where I've gotten a. chance to chat with people that have. dabbled in that world, whether it's. former teammates of mine going all the.

way in. Okay? How's he doing? Great now. >> He's got good. Yeah, he's. He's great now. But also, you know, from. different events that we've been at. where we've had a quick interaction, maybe a quick pepper of a question. And. I do utilize. I think people would say. that are around me in these moments. I. utilize this time with these people to. ask questions that I assume most people. would not ask. Like I very much have a. oh [ __ ] I don't know if I'm ever going. to see this person again. Got to get it. out. Got got to got to got to get it.

out. So I've had a lot of those moments. in the entirety. That world is just no. it feels like there's no winning but. also somehow there's no losing. I don't. I don't know how. >> You're right. that even works. I I don't. know how that works. Everybody's. spinning that they're saving the world. and then everybody has somehow stats. that they're saving the world. And if. you have that you're never going to get. somebody to disagree or change their. opinion. So I don't I don't they need a. scoreboard age. They need a [ __ ]. scoreboard. People say election day. scoreboard and it's like yeah but does. everybody listen to that and pay. attention? >> Who's tallying? Who's tallying the.

scoreboard is the question. Who's. putting the numbers up? Yeah and what's. a point? Yeah. Because what's a what's a great. thing for one person and then his whole. group uh the other group's going to come. out and say you're killing babies. Like. that's just how it works. >> Yeah there's always a very strong. counter. Always a very. strong counter. What's that? >> We need to elect a grand scorekeeper. We. need a point one. Like Jeff Saturday. We. need a point one. Yeah. Yeah well he's. not going to make decision but maybe the. people that he puts together Yeah. Who. does everybody who does everybody like?

Nick Saban. Boom Nick Saban. He'll keep. score. All right. One. Then they'll [laughter] make a counter. argument. Make it a half. You got no points. You lost points. Why. did you think about doing that? And. that's part of the problem. You know as. the counters start coming in. Oh no. you're ruining the world. Oh no you're. the worst person. And then this oh no. you're ru- yeah but what about the good? Oh we're not keeping score on that. We're talking about what the worst. possible outcome could be here cuz. that's probably inevitable. That's why we love what we have here in.

sports. Be a friend tell a friend something nice. it might change your life. We're in this. thing together. To the politician people. we appreciate your efforts if your. efforts are pure and you're trying to. make everything good. Which we'll just. assume you all are. Mhm. Knowing that's. not true. We will assume and hope that. that's the case. So we appreciate you. all so much. Let's go ahead and get. football and college sports figured out. Yeah. Cuz you guys sent that over to. NCAA they're never going to get that. done. Right H? No chance. No chance. They're waiting on. you guys. And then he said well why.

don't we meet? Yeah. That's what I think should happen. >> Exactly. >> And on that note everybody should meet. Everybody should be meeting all the. time. Let's be learning. Let's be evolving. Let's work together. Mhm. Let's be a. friend tell a friend something nice it. might change your life. We're in this. thing together. Team on three. Team on. three. One two three team. Team. Goodbye.