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Hello beautiful people and welcome to. our humble boat the draft [music] kings. thunderdome on this NFL week 10 kickoff. Thursday [music]. program begins now. >> FOOTBALL. >> IS THE GREATEST AND uh joining myself in. the toxic table at Boston Connor and at. Ty Schmidt and one half of the hammer. Don Cowboy Cowboys AP tone is a man who. has coached football for 37 years of his.

life. 19 in the NFL, 18 in college. Our. coach, ladies and gentlemen, Coach. Pagani. >> Hey, how you doing, coach? How's life. tonight? We got an NFC East clash. We. got a little bit of weather potentially. happening on a Thursday night for. back-to-back weeks. And we got the. Commanders in the Giants in the Giants. favored by two and a half as Amazon. Prime kicks off week 10 of the NFL. season. Jaden Daniels last time he. played against the Giants ran all over. the place. >> Is he going to be able to do that again.

against this version of this New York. Giants defense? JJ McCarthy, he's back. in the saddle yet again as the New York. Giants starting quarterback. At the. beginning, we saw greatness. Then we saw. some Cam Scataboo's back tonight. Will. that change how this Giants team. operates? Or will the Washington. Commanders get a massive dub on Thursday. night? Giants in control of the NFC. East. You lose a game or two though, all. of a sudden this NFC East is cracked. wide the hell open again. Let's go to. that Boston Connor con man tonight. What. are you looking forward to kind of.

scratch where you itch on Thursday night. football? >> I mean really just big hits, big plays. Uh it feels as though we have the two. premier linebackers of this rookie. class, Sunny Styles and Arll Reese kind. of coming together. Maybe some big plays. out of those guys. Punch outs have been. a big thing of this kind of year this. season so far. It's going to be a sloppy. one. Slop them up. Tim Robinson sloppy. stakes tonight. So, I don't know exactly. what to expect offensively. That's why. my head right now is just focused on, hey, we got two premier young. linebackers. Let's just see some big. hits. >> Arvel Ree fresh off of NFC defensive.

player of the week. Three sacks last. week. He uh brings the hammer and uh he. is leading a Giants defense that I think. Giants fans say that's what it's. supposed to look like. Coach Pagano, as. you look at tonight's game, obviously. you are very biased towards John Horbal. >> We got to remember that for all of. today. Yes, we do. >> Okay. Chuck has a lot of good football. thoughts and knowledge. Now, his picks. this year. Picks have been tough for. everybody except for this past week. >> Yeah. >> Which kind of breaking news, I guess. We. will not have a boost this evening.

>> What? >> How come? >> Well, the DraftKings folks said, "Listen, we've been having fun with. these boosts." And we did one uh I don't. know if you saw this past weekend what. the favorites did. We got absolutely. murdered. So, no boost this week. Good. job everybody. Okay. So, shout out to. us. to the team. Yes, sir. >> Shout out to the favorites showing up. >> Shout out to the favorites. Have a go. We're not no boos this week, but we do. have a team ride. Our team ride will be. Cam Scataboo getting into the paint. That's plus 125 just naturally all by. itself. We'll be team riding alongside.

of that for our record for these. Thursday nights. We cannot wait to see. him back on the field for the New York. Giants after missing some time, which. goes to you, Coach Pagano. Uh Gambo. responsibly. >> Mhm. >> Don't be an [ __ ]. >> That's right. >> And Cam Scataboo, can't wait to see you. in the end zone. Now, coach Pagano, you. have bias towards John Harbaugh. You. love and respect the way he goes about. doing his business. We obviously all. appreciate DQ as well over there at the. Commanders. What are your thoughts on. tonight's game and what we could. potentially be seeing uh as we kick off. week 10? >> You mentioned the weather, Pat. So, when.

you look at turnover margin with these. guys, we'll look at tail of the tape. later. Washington's plus seven, top of. the National Football League, right up. there. >> Giants Giants are minus two. So I think. turnovers when you look at other than. score, turnover margin always decides a. lot of these games, right? So I think. turnover is going to be huge. Con man. talked about the peanut punch. Sunny. Styles for the Washington Commanders, Arll Reese, Javon Holland, that guy's a. ball magnet. So I think two aggressive.

play callers on both sides of this. thing. Dinard Wilson for the Giants and. and Donte Jones for the Washington. He. you know where he comes from? What tree? >> Where's that? >> Be Flo. Yes. >> Oh, so you already know they're going to. be going is what you're saying. >> Yes, they're going to have seven, eight. guys up at the line of scrimmage. And. are they coming or are they dropping? >> I didn't expect that for the Commanders. there, Ty. You were just as surprised as. I was because whenever we think about. the Washington Commanders, we think, "Oh, they suck." But they're top of the. league in turnover margin thus far. That's a good indicator on who's a good.

team, who's not a good team. And that's. a fantastic little piece of info as we. look at a sloppy evening, sloppy stakes. type night because in my mind, Giants. pound the rock. A lot of big dudes, sloppy conditions would be good for them. in my eyes. But instead, Chuck Pagano. Harbaugh disciple actually says, "Turns. out Giants can't protect the damn. football this year." And the commanders. have been getting it at a rapid rate. I. did not expect that, Tai Schmid. >> No, neither did I. And usually that. does, you know, kind of signal that, hey, this is a good football team. But. they are 25 and one. They are not a good.

football team. NFC East. >> in the NFC East, >> they can still host a playoff game. >> I think, you know, hey, listen, crazier. things have happened. Uh, and you know. what? Maybe it is just because I just. immediately think, hey, this team stinks. and they're never going to be in my. fourbox on Sunday. So, maybe I just. haven't been playing uh paying close. enough attention. Maybe I haven't. watched Washington enough. So, who. knows? I'm now I'm maybe kind of leaning. back towards the the commanders for. tonight. >> You know, Chson on one side, OA on the. other. They sacked the hell out of the. quarterback. They've been getting.

pressure, right? Louvu, they got Sanell. in the back end. Rasul Douglas, they got. some guys. >> Oh, the [ __ ]. >> First ever simal cast on Monday Night. Football was Commanders at 49ers. >> 49ers were killing them. And then all of. a sudden, what happens in the second. half, Commanders come roaring back. So. now I'm starting to think about it, too. >> And then also Stefan Diggs, doesn't. matter the weather. Remember that guy. got actually put through earth on the uh. first play of the game. First play of. the game. Got it. gets back up, gets it.

again. I think his finger broke at one. point. That this is the best Stefon. Diggs that I've seen. >> what in five years probably. >> Yeah, since Prime Buffalo. >> just routes insane. Going hard, getting. killed, getting back up. And Jaden. Daniels loves him. It's uh hold the. phone. Maybe we got one tonight. NMC's. still very much wide open. We have a lot. of football left. There's a lot of. storylines around the NFL right now that. are certainly worthy of conversation. Kirk Cousins going back to Minnesota. I. don't think I fully understood how big. of a deal that actually is. >> Mhm.

>> Whenever Kirk Cousins was drafted to the. then Washington. >> Yeah. the Redskins back then. Y. >> that was before the football team. >> Correct. >> That was that was the he was drafted to. that particular franchise. Right. >> And uh that was after RG3. He got. drafted after RG3 in the same draft. class. He inevitably becomes starting. quarterback. Gets franchise tagged. Franchise tagged yet again. Then. whenever he goes and hits the open. market, everybody's like, "Hey, Kirk. Cousins is a genius. Kirk Cousins is a. business mastermind. He's going to. figure out his contract. He does. He. gets a fully guaranteed contract to the.

Minnesota Vikings. He calls that place. home. Plays very well for them. Does a. lot of great things for them. Wins a lot. of football games for them. Inevitably. doesn't win a Super Bowl for the. Minnesota Vikings, but plays so well. that the Minnesota Vikings can't keep up. with what the Atlanta Falcons decide to. pay him yet again guaranteed another. mastermind business move 180 million or. something like that to Atlanta. So I I. think in the trade back to Minnesota for. Kirk Cousins, where were you living a. lot of the glory days of Kirk Cousins in. Minnesota? They loved him over there. Oh. yeah, >> that was his that was his team.

Washington team at the time. Uh. >> it was the Redskins at the time. Yeah. So. >> BC. a long time. >> Yes. B and also BFT. Yes. >> B4 football team as well there. But that. was never his. He was drafted after. Robert Griffin uh the third. Okay. So it. never really felt like it was his team. even though he was doing well there. Franchise tag you like that all that's. happening going to Minnesota that was. like supposed to be his entire and they. treated it that way. >> Yeah. >> He's dapping up everybody after they. played this video like was kind of.

emotional and I hope Kirk Cousins gets a. chance to watch this back about how his. former teammates and former building. responded to watching him have success. somewhere else. This is cool. And uh I. think there's a chance he goes crazy. And it's not just the building that. likes him. There's a wide receiver out. there, Chuck, that might be pretty. pumped up and excited that Kirk Cousins. is back in town. >> Yeah, I think JJ's ecstatic about this. move. You go back to 2022, Kirk threw. for 45,00 yards, 29 touchdowns, and 12. interceptions. And JJ happened to be the.

recipient of 128 receptions. >> thrown from Kirk Cousins for 1,89 yards. and eight tuies. So, you think he's. jacked? >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Especially after. All right. Okay. Okay. Okay. You're gonna have to be apologizing on. Twitter again. We We. >> Great experience. No, I love that. experience. I loved it. >> Yeah. I'm sure that was a blast. It's a. lot of fun whenever those types of. things take place. But Carson did not. play well. That offense has not played. well, though. I mean, that's a big. conversation. Is it Kevin Oonnell? Uh is.

it the offense? Is it the quarterback? I. think we find out with a guy that he. certainly had uh a lot of success with. in the past, has a lot of the weapons, has a defense that can win it all. It's. like, has KC lost his touch or has he. just finally found a guy that can. actually operate his offense because. we've seen it in the past. >> Yeah. And maybe it was the connection. between Kyler and Justin Jefferson and. Jordan Edison like never got going and. you would think like, okay, well now. they have to kind of figure that out. with Kirk getting there, but that's not. the case. I mean, you saw it in that. video, Jordan Addison was there, Justin. Jefferson, TJ Hawinson, like Kurt. Cousins knows how to play with these.

guys already. So, you would assume they. hit the ground running and their offense. is good right away. But, you never know. I mean, going playing the Packers right. away is pretty tough. >> Yeah. What did Laflur say yesterday. about the Kirk Cousins trade inside the. division back to the Minnesota Vikings? >> Well, he couldn't believe that, you. know, all they had to give up was a. third round pick. But I I also think. that like Kevin Oonnell was was kind of, you know, trying to do some gamesmanship. saying like, well, you know, we don't. know if he's going to start on Sunday. And the floor was basically like, hey, I'm not a [ __ ] [laughter] I watched. the Monday night game. I know that he's.

starting on. >> here. He is actually, Coach Laflur. >> Yeah, he he'll be out there. he'll be. starting. I'm fairly confident of that. Obviously, he's got familiarity with. their system. Even if he didn't, he's a. really intelligent intelligent guy, and. I think he's been playing at a high. level. >> I was surprised they didn't get more for. for him. Quite honestly, I was shocked. when I saw what they traded him for. I I. just that was mind-blowing to me. >> Yeah, he's a really good football. player. I don't know if that's the. biggest compliment I can give. I thought.

he's worth way more than a three. That's. what they're saying about you, Kirk, not. us. Okay. coached him in Washington as. well. >> Oh yeah, because he came from the. >> Yeah, the the Redskins, >> the BFT, the B the BC team back over. there in Washington. A lot of history. over there. A lot of good football. Kurt. Cousins going back to the Minnesota. Vikings. Feels like it could be a. special story. You know, trade deadline. makes you feel good unless you're a. Green Bay Packers head coach going a. third. That's all that's all we needed. to get a starting quarterback that can. actually uh play football. That's absurd.

that they did that to us. Bears coach, Lions coach, uh, Packers coach, group. text, big MCDC goes, "What the hell are. they doing in Las Vegas, man?" And then. all of a sudden, Ben Johnson comes in, goes, "Uh, first of all, I hate all of. you. I don't want any of this, but this. is bullshit." And Kevin Okonnell sitting. back thinking, "Maybe they do win a. Super Bowl this year." And Brian Flores, what do you think he's thinking on. defensive side? Because it's hard. You. You're a former head coach, obviously, defense coordinator. When one side of. the ball is really good, >> and the other side of the ball is really.

[ __ ] it all up, that's one building, you know, and those are two different. platoon that are playing in one building. at one time. There's great stories about. the offense and defense hitting each. other all the way back to the Bears, I. think. Right. The Bears, their historic. defense in the offense they. bride. >> Boom. Actually didn't like each other. Allegedly fights, but they're all one. team representing, but they're not on. the field at the same time. That'd be a. tough thing maybe over there. Be is an. incredible leader. Obviously, he has a. lot of respect for Kevin O'Connell. Kevin Okcono has a lot of respect for.

Be. But if they didn't have as many vets. that like been there, done that with a. lot of things. That could become a. pretty ugly thing, especially if you. don't bring in another quarterback to. try to win. >> It's a challenge, but I think Be's the. perfect guy for it because he's a team. guy. He's a selfless guy. he going to. shut that room and and call it like it. is. Yeah, they suck. But you know what? They're our teammates and we got to do. our job. Just think that defense is. built to play from a lead. Just think. now if they get up a score, two scores, the hell they're 42 minutes. They've.

been able they won six games with no. offense. That's going back to like. Baltimore of 2000, you know, when they. had Delfer at quarterback. They won five. games without scoring an offensive. touchdown because of defensive play. So, he's handling that the right way. It's a. challenge for sure. >> All right. Well, let's pivot away from. the NFL and its incredible week that. it's had in storyline wise. And we think. week 10 is going to be the best weekend. >> yet. >> Although the slate kind of stinks. >> No, but that's why. >> Okay. >> Cuz we're just going to But if it. stinks, let's just hope that all the. favorites win again so that we, you.

know, responsibly win every single bet. >> There you go. >> And on the other side, we have a plan. >> What's that? >> I said and on the other side, we have a. plan. >> [snorts]. >> Connor wants to tell everybody his super. surprise that he is currently doing, but. he literally cannot tell the. >> It's a secret plan. It's a secret plan. >> All right. This is just a little teaser. for whenever you pop in on over reaction. Monday and say that you're smarter than. everybody. >> Yeah. Suck it. >> Okay. I like that. So, that's him. telling something uh that we decided we. weren't going to talk about, but so.

pumped up about the idea. Want people to. know that you have a great idea. >> It's a secret plan. >> DraftKings ain't going to be giving out. boosts next year. Next week [laughter]. either, are they? They're not. No, they. aren't. What a win for everybody if. that's the case. Hey, just wondering if. we're going to We have a couple ideas on. things we want to boost. Not this week, pal. No way. What's that all about? We. got [snorts] cr absolutely. smoked on Sunday. >> Taking out back. >> What do you mean? What do you worst day? >> That was really not good for the Okay,

that's good. I like to hear that. Okay, so we'll put ours up for a record. We uh. expect to hopefully not see you next. week either. Like we this is the new. normal now. DraftKings, we'd like to let. you know we're winning now. We that's. what we're doing, right? Responsibly. >> Yes. >> This is not a guarantee, but this is. just an optimistic view that we are all. going to win all the time now going. forward. >> Got to get I mean we're hot right now. Stay hot. >> But there is a chance that DK gets back. >> Oh, certainly. >> Yeah. >> Certainly. >> Very soon there's a chance they get back. this weekend. Yeah. Very, very soon. That is kind of the game. We just can't,

you know, we we can't get too high on. the highs. Okay. Like right now I'm kind. of celebrating that we we kind of killed. their booth. This is not what I need to. be doing. The gambling gods, the. football gods, sports gods are watching. me do this right now. I'm we're kind of. dancing in DraftKings face right now. That is not what we should be doing. >> How many opportunities are you going to. get to dance? >> Yeah. And we have an ace in the hole. Whatever Debbone says with college. basketball, we do the opposite and we. win money in between NFL games. >> I'm hot as a pistol in college. basketball [laughter] right now. >> Exactly. >> I am. Oh my god. I know nothing about.

these guys. >> I I I know nothing about the teams. just. strictly learning storylines. What are. the story lines behind? Because I think. nowadays with these modern college. athletes more so than ever, I think they. have to be motivated by things like I. think that it is very obvious like when. because a team will win. Number one team. in the country in college football will. win next week boom it feels like there. is a lot trying to motivate. So you know. that that is. >> you don't have a saving at the helm that. can reel that in all the time. >> I'll tell you. >> that miss that Sparty win was huge,

right? And the story you told about this. kid from Chicago that got shot up. Yeah. >> In Jolie at Illinois. It was outside of. Chicago. >> And how many points were they getting? They were a dog by 10. >> Seven and a half. >> Seven and a half. And they won by what? 10. >> Yeah. No way. Was that kid done as. though? >> That kid was never going to lose. No. chance. In the history of my mind. knowing athletes, that kid was never. going to lose that game. Especially if. he's up for player of the year. Like. he's a very impactful player. >> Yeah. Preseason all-American. That was. kind of a stamp on the beginning of the. season for him. >> Yeah. No chance he was losing that game.

It was one of the most obvious things of. all time. So, I sprinkled responsibly on. every single thing that I was combined. points, rebounds, assists, points, and. assists. Uh, obviously Michigan State. plus 7 and a half. Uh, Michigan State. money line. I I mean, it was great start. to college hoops, but college football. has continued to be unpredictable, impossible to tell what's going to. happen. Who knows where college game day. is going to be week to week. We are. literally riding alongside all of these. teams and whether or not they can piece. together a couple big- time wins that. puts them in a conversation for the.

championship in January. >> Shout out Mr. Con. >> Shout out. >> cuz they were talking about it. >> Yeah. In October. They envisioned it in October. gonna go. on to January and [snorts] after that. you know who is on. >> January. >> that's the Jacksonville Jaguars owner. [laughter]. talking about how they have visualized. everything that's happening down there. with college football it's impossible to. visualize what's going to happen from. one week to the next it has been the.

best season yet ratings up and to the. right as it should because the sport the. environments the culture everything. about college football is incomparable. to the rest of the world soccer. hooligans okay have a say they are a. very passionate bunch They're a very. active bunch. They're very loud. They. have chants. They have songs. They're. all allin. Sweet. That's a 30,000 40,000. person stadium. That's Hey, we are. impressed. That is very We love your. passion. 108,000. Same exact thing here. in America. 105,000 103,000. College.

football is the greatest. Always has. been. And do you know who has the. longest consecutive. winning season streak in all of college. football right now? >> Alabama. >> Not Alabama. >> No, >> not Ohio State. >> It's Boise State. >> You're damn right. Ladies and gentlemen, representing Boise State this weekend at. College Game Day as we travel to the. beautiful state of Idaho, a legend from.

Boisee, a man that was potentially a. part of putting the wonderful university. onto the map. I believe he's still in. love. I believe he [laughter] is still. married. Ladies and gentlemen, Boise. State legend who beat Oklahoma 4342 in a. 2007 Fiesta Bowl, got engaged, became an. all-American, and an absolute icon. Ladies and gentlemen, Ian Johnson. >> Hey. Yes. And I am still in love. Absolutely. She's at home watching. I.

love you, mama. Chrissy, you're you're. everything to me. I still love you. >> Oh my god. That's amazing to hear. I. think we have the clip of when you got. engaged. Uh, obviously Statue of Liberty. play kind of took over the entire world. This is pre Twitter internet viralness. and everybody on Earth saw this. And. then afterwards, the most romantic and. cute college football love story as you. proposed to your cheerleader girlfriend. at the time. Now you're still married, still in love. God, that's beautiful.

Ian, I am so happy to hear that. That's. a movie, brother. >> Oh, thank you. Thank you. No, I've got a. wonderful family. Uh I got my three. girls at home. I mean, I'm just so. blessed, man. So, I love that this has. made full circle and we're back here and. I love the opportunity to support and. represent Boise State for game day. >> Okay. Tell me a little bit about Boyisey. and what we should expect. We're being. told that the support is going to be. awesome. 29 years of consecutive winning. seasons. That's absurd to be able to be. that consistent, especially in the wild. world of college football. So, it's.

definitely a football tan. What should. we expect from the folks and the. atmosphere is you guys are more than. likely a lot of football left going to. be representing in the college football. playoff at the end of the year. What. should we expect from the Boise folks as. we get out there? Ian, >> you know what? Boise is just a place. where it's old school values. The people. care about football. The people care. about each other, but the people want. you to come up here and have a great. time. So, it's really just going to be a. welcoming atmosphere for you, for.

everyone from College Game Day, and it's. going to be a great game where people, these are regular everyday people, uh, that are coming into the stadium. They're working 9 to5s and they're. supporting Bronco Nation through and. through all the way. >> Okay. Tell me a little bit about the. team. Why do you think it has been good. for so long? You were a massive piece of. it uh in the late two10s. Wow. How do you describe that? >> Mid mid tens mid to. >> long time ago. That's how we describe. it. >> I was in college then, too. I don't.

really know how to describe it. I I got. a chance to kind of watch from afar as. you guys were taking over. We were. actually in the fiestable the year after. you guys, I think, and beat Oklahoma. there. So, you know, we we knew a lot. about your team and everything you guys. had cooking. Obviously, the blue turf. was uh Smurf turf was a part of the. entire lore of the place, but why do you. think Boise State has been so. successful? What What is it about the. place? Is it the people? What are what. are kind of your thoughts about the. football ops over the last three. decades? >> I the biggest thing is the culture. The. culture here has stayed true even though.

we've had different coaches. Um the the. heads of our team have always wanted to. make sure the coaching down has this. belief that the team is going to. represent and reflect the community. And. when the team reflects the community, it's easy for the people to get behind. them and support them and want to push. them. And then the team, this is a. bluecollar. community. Bluecollar players playing. together play for one another. We were.

always taught do your job, not the job. of the guy next to you. And when you. have a hundred guys willing to do the. job that is just theirs, it makes it. special. It also makes it You can't have. primadonas. You can't have someone who's. going to be bigger than the team. And. that's what makes things stick around. It's one It's easy to be a flash in a. pan. It's easy to do it one time, but to. do it over and over and over again, you. have to have that structure and you have. to have it from the top to the bottom. and something we've got here.

>> Yeah, it sounds like it. And whenever. you play bluecollar football for. bluecollar people, you're probably gonna. have a good back. Tone has a question. for you, Ian. >> Yeah. Ian, I'm gonna read some names off. to you. Um Ian Johnson, Ashton Genty, Jay Aai, uh Doug Martin, Jeremy. McNichols. Is Boise State running back. you? And you have Dylan Riley who leads. the leads college football this year in. rushing yards. Is is Boise running back. you? >> I mean, it's I mean, it's really really. hard to say no to that. I mean, [laughter] it's one of the things like I.

mean, when Pat was asking me, he's like, "What made this team good for the I. mean, it's 20 years since I played. What's been the the secret sauce?" We've. had running backs. Like, we have that. one special quarterback that you get. once in a lifetime in college football, which is our Kell Moore. But during that. time, we've had some of the most amazing. running backs. Uh, you see what Riley's. doing now. I still love Sarah Gaines, Doug Martin. I mean, God rest his soul. Um, we've had some amazing guys here and.

guys have all done it pretty much the. same way. Wanted to hit you in the mouth. play after play after play. And that. makes it so much easier for the offense. to get doing what they're doing, for. quarterbacks to do what they're doing, and for the defense to do what they need. to do. >> Yeah. Ashen Genty, just a couple years. back, we all expected him to leave. Boyisey, and he said, "No, I'm not going. anywhere." it obviously ends up working. out for him and I think you're the. perfect person to represent for College. Game Day. Thank you for taking time. today and thank you for showing up for.

us uh on Saturday. You're the man. >> Absolutely. Happy to be here and I. promise you unlike our neighbors to the. south, we'll take care of. >> All right. All right. All right. All. right. Thank you, sir. Thank you. [applause and cheering]. >> Thank you. Thank you. >> Still jacked. >> Yeah, he is so jacked. >> Absolutely jacked. Running back you. What a funny thing. Tone holds up his. dry erase board and he goes RBU and I'm. like I don't think anybody's ever said. that about Boise. Can't wait to hear. this. >> Read off a list of names. It's you kind. of forget. >> Where's the Jai? Was he England? Is that.

uh was Jai English? >> Maybe. He might have been. I can't. remember. >> I don't think so. He might have been. >> I think he might have been. Hold on. Come on. Come on. Me. He was in a Maybe. it's a European gaming. >> Yeah, he was London. >> He was born in London. >> There you go. >> Boom. >> Still got it. Pretty pumped up about. that. Jeremy McNichols didn't even think. of that. He's playing tonight, too. >> Yeah, you were rattling through names. and I was like, >> I think he's on IR. >> He is he back on IR cuz he came back. Got to look it up.

>> Oh, joining us now is a man who might. have the a guy who obviously was. commentating big-time college football. games while the Ian Johnson Boise State. Bronco run was happening in the late. >> late 2000s. late 2000s, ladies and. gentlemen. A man who's good in the 90s, >> the early 2000s, the late 2000s, >> the arts, if you will, >> the early teens, the late teens, the. early 20s, ladies and gentlemen, the. ever. >> youthful. >> Yeah, >> right. I think that. >> that's Ben Button. Yeah,

>> he is kind of. >> Ben Button. >> And you know, rest in peace to Ben. I I. think Peter's kind of keeping him young, too. >> Oh, definitely. Ladies and gentlemen, one of the commentators for this. evening, kicking off week 10 of the NFL. season on Amazon Prime, Kirk Herbstreet. [cheering]. [applause]. >> Look, he's getting younger. >> How we doing? >> Every week you pop on here, you get. younger. You're I don't know what you're. doing. I know modern science is. incredible, but it isn't it absurd. Look, the hair is even strong, too. And. every once in a while, it looks like. you'll just say, "Ah, enough of it." And. cut it yourself. [laughter] It is a it.

you're you're a remarkable fella. How. you feeling halfway through the season? I think you look incredible. And uh on. game day, your energy outrageous still. How do you feel? You feel good halfway. through, >> man. I I'm I'm I'm enjoying the hell out. of it. You know, it's it's uh you're. you're going through it, too. It's it's. a it's a fun grind. It's um how lucky. are we to work on a show on College Game. Day like you guys have with your group. right there where, you know, there's. just a camaraderie. You know, some teams. have it, some teams don't. We're lucky.

to have camaraderie. We have it on. Thursday night. Man, I'm just real. fortunate Saturday night with with that. crew that I work with. So, yeah, it's. it's a lot of work, but man, it's. football and it cannot be any better. I. I'm loving it. Now, we got so many. storylines that are unfolding, not only. with the CFP, but now that we're getting. to the second half of the NFL, things. are starting to kind of get real. We're. starting to find out who's who's the. cream starting to rise a little bit. So, I'm I'm I'm wrapped up all in it, man. Just loving it. >> Yeah, me too. It has been fun this year. Now, loud, very loud, unexpected, and.

expected. I guess I I kind of am a huge. part of it all, but the the season. itself, the football and the. environments that we've gotten a chance. to experience feels better than ever, man. And and let's talk about college. football before we get into tonight. There's going to be a bunch of questions. when the college football playoff. rankings come out dayto-day talk show. Obviously, we love it and I think there. is little indicators on things that the. committee is telling us now that might. really mean something down the road for.

you here. There hasn't been much. complaining about this particular set of. rankings. SEC still getting a lot of. love. Obviously, that immediately leads. to like there's an SEC bias, but if you. look at this, it's all going to. seemingly shake out how it's supposed to. if you look at the remaining schedules. for everybody. Any big takeaways from. you other than maybe UCLA at four as. opposed to like three or something along. that those lines? Anything else, Herby, for you? No, there was really there's. really that's why I don't I've learned.

over the years not to really get, you. know, alarmed by these first two or. three four weeks of these rankings, you. know, and and I think when we first. going through it, um especially when it. was four teams, I I think it was very. obvious and easy to be like, "Oh my. gosh, how is this team ranked here?" And. now I feel like, and it makes you wonder. about what the future will be with 24. I. I just think that eventually it'll work. itself out. Now, there'll be controversy. at the end. There always is. You know, last year with Notre Dame being left. out, Alabama going in, there was a. controversy. Um, you know, right now.

there are people who are anti-SEC. No. matter what they do, they they're up in. arms that UCLA is undefeated and and. Alabama's ahead of them. Um, but I. there's really nothing on here uh that. that makes me think, you know, for for. Tai, it's not right now, but it's down. the road. I mean, they're going to be. heavily favored in these next these next. three games. You you wonder with teams. like Oregon and South Carolina and USC. uh maybe even an LSU go to go all the.

way down to 23 if if some of these teams. were to win out be just because of who. they're playing and and and the. opportunity to to impress the committee. You know that that could become. something that becomes. a sticky point as Pete Tho would say. I. I don't know if Patai feels good. Ty, I. think I heard you on on uh Tuesday. talking with the guys about about Iowa. and you're kind of kind of lukewarm. right now where they sit. Um, but what. what's unfortunate for them is just an.

example is just they don't have the. marquee wins. They don't have anything. in front of them that can really send a. strong message. They're a very good. team. I think we always always look at. Iowa as a a sound team, a team that can. beat anybody that they play on a given. Saturday, but they don't they don't. necessarily have those those massive. wins. Ty, I I didn't hear after the. rankings came out, what were your your. thoughts on their actual spot and where. they are? >> Yeah, I mean, they're they're not. completely out of it. I think if they. would have been at like 22, it would. have been like, okay, they they have no.

chance. I think, you know, you hate to. do it because it would kind of uh. diminish what the conference is, but. like they would really benefit from. Illinois beating UCLA tomorrow night. because they go to Champagne. My big. thing with them was I feel like they. kind of move the goalpost cuz like I. know Michigan's not worth the [ __ ] but. when they went to Ann Arbor and beat. them, they were ranked 18th. You know, Wisconsin just came off beating USC, they were ranked like Northwestern. Like, so, you know, at the time the wins. are okay. And then now it's like the.

wins aren't good anymore. So whereas you. know with a lot of these SEC teams like. they're still going back to September. when they beat Mississippi State when. Kamario Taylor was playing. So it seems. like it it's not you know it's not. weighted the same but we'll see. I mean. that they've you know they have to win. out and then the kind of the chips fall. where they may them being at 15. I think. they're in an okay spot. >> Need a couple things happen. You know. >> I look at the same thing Pat with with a. like a USC. You know, USC's had some ups. and downs. Obviously, you look at an.

Ohio State win that they had. If you go. back to that night, that performance, that was a great win for USC. Now, you. can look at Ohio State and what happened. against Oregon and say, "Okay, they're. falling apart." But I'm I'm with Tai on. that. I I look at that night, what they. took to win that game, um under the. circumstances, whether it was a crowd or. or being on the road or or dealing with. a player that was injured. I I I I try. to hold on to remembering regardless of. what happens to that team after that. I.

try to remember that week what that win. meant to that particular team. Um and I. I did want to ask you guys this. Uh Pat. and I've done this on game day and I. wanted to just ask you guys, we all had. our preseason picks, right? Everybody. had a team or who they thought might get. to the national championship and you. know, I think I had Notre Dame knocking. off Indiana in the national championship. in August. And now that we've had, I. guess, nine nine weeks, whatever week. we're in now, week nine or 10, um, I'd. love to just go around the room if you.

if you could do it all over right now. and put the national championship game. together. I still think Notre Dame gets. to the national championship, but I'm. I'm I'm really enjoying watching. Georgia's defense and what Gunner. Stockton can do. I would go Georgia over. Notre Dame in the natty if we had to do. it all over starting right now. How. about you guys? >> Okay. Does Not Notre Dame play their. best football like they just played? Cuz. if they are if they are going to do. that, I I think we can all really like.

what Notre Dame has and Yeah, man. >> Notre Dame being two years in the. making, too. This is like two years in. the making everything. That's why uh and. you you picked Notre Dame as well. >> with with Malachi Tony out. That does. change the conversation, but that was. still a very good Miami team. But man, if Notre Dame loses that game, I think I. never am able to believe in Marcus. Freeman ever again. I I I actually like. that is how I would have viewed it. Like, hey, this is a game you got to. win, bro. Like this is last year you did. it and then you said we leave no doubt.

Leave no doubt. Well, this is this is. literally the entire thing that you are. doing is this particular game. And after. talking to Freeman and then after like. catching it was like there's no way they. lose this game. Like literally cannot. lose this game. And I'm pumped that they. did because I think what it did was. prove to a lot of us who like their like. Marcus, who like their roster, who like. CJ. It was like the first time we could. say like, "Yeah, these dudes did do what. they were supposed to do in a massive. game, in a massive setting." So much. like uh you and Ree, I believe, also. like Notre Dame going into the year. I.

wasn't necessarily there yet because I. had seen the big lights in a big stage. and them be able to conquer it yet with. these ads being there. I uh I like that. Notre Dame team. I I I really like the. Notre Dame, but I don't think. >> so. Right now, right now, if you had to. pick it over the national championship, I got Georgia against Notre Dame. Who do. you got? >> I I I think I got the same as you. Now, granted, those are the two odds on. favorites, but I think it does. >> I know. I didn't realize that. >> Yeah. At the stage of this season, I. think the sports books are seeing the. same things that we're seeing. And I. don't know if the sports books watch.

that vlog that came out of Georgia, >> but Kirby is still 1997. >> These somebody needs to get hurt today. like he is still and I'm thankful that. they are. >> putting that out out of Kirby's heart. because that they Old Miss had no shot. It wasn't I picked Old Miss. I picked. Old Miss. I picked Trinidad Chamblas at. Old Miss at home. Has that got to have. it. Didn't believe. >> kind of upset with Gunner. I was like I. I still believe in Gunner. I think.

Gunner's going to be all right. You were. a little bit down on a Gunner and. >> I love Gunner. >> for good reason. >> Gunner bummed me out, man. He I was. bummed out. And then Georgia Bulldogs. fans came out and were like, "You're a. [ __ ] for being bummed out by Gunner. Have you Have you seen. >> Gunnar's a baller? Gunner's a baller.". >> And his name is Gunner. And the first. time I got introduced to him, he got. John Elway whirly bird knocked out and. then he got right back up. >> Oh my gosh. Decapitated. >> I love Gunner. I love him, but I was. bummed out about him. I like Trend. Chamblas a lot as well. So I was like, "Boom." After watching that vlog, you.

could have lined up the [ __ ] 85 Bears. and I I I think the Georgia Bulldogs. would have won that particular game. there after watching the vlog. >> They looked to pissed off. They look. pissed off. >> And Notre Dame and Georgia, I think, are. the two teams who have the most this. year, you know, like two years in the. making. Like this is the most. >> Both both got knocked out of the. playoffs. Both got a chip on their. shoulder. They've had it since. preseason. Anybody disagree besides. Gumpy? >> Anybody else? Gumpy says, "Hey, he. caught that ball, too. We're all hopped.

up.". >> Does this Does this national. championship have the refs in Notre. Dame's back pocket? >> Okay. All right. >> All right. Go. >> Yeah. Miami Still Dancing, which we. appreciate. Tone, who do you have? >> So, I spent a lot of time each week, you. know, doing power ratings and stuff like. that. And I have four teams within a. point and a half. And then, coincidentally, it's those top four. teams up there. Georgia, Notre Dame, Alabama, and Miami with Georgia and. Notre Dame being the top two. So, as as. chalk as that is, I agree with the. Georgia Notre Dame. >> Just real quick though, LSU has Texas.

and Tennessee here down the stretch, right? They do. Uh. >> they are my number five team actually in. the primary. >> Okay, so LSU has had top 10 offense, top. 10 defense. They just lose games, you. know? So, like. >> I mean, they outgained BAM, they just. couldn't put it in in the red zone. >> in Bama. Nobody's saying BAM after what. we just saw, you know. That's. fascinating. Ty, do you have anybody? Uh, I personally would like to see a. Miami Notre Dame rematch with a healthy. M Tony in the national championship. >> Good one. >> That'd be a great one, >> Con Man. >> So, I think Georgia Miami would be the.

one for me just cuz I feel like it would. be the most physical battle. Yeah. Mario's boys versus Kirby's boys. And I. do think if Notre Dame and Miami were to. play in the semis, Miami would be the. more like, hey, we got Malachi now. We're healthy. We got to go prove that. we are better than these guys. Coach. Pagano who. >> Georgia Miami for me because they're. going to be mad as Hornets. You know. Mario is going to have them ready and. they're going to get they're going to. get Malachi to Tony back. >> Yeah. >> Are they How long is that definite? >> Yeah. How long is that going to be? >> Supposed to be back for the playoff,

>> but they got to get there, right? >> See, I thought they were just saying. that so the committee says like, "Oh, he'll be back. What teams they got left. on their schedule?". >> Pretty good. >> Who do you have? >> We got Duke and then we got Virginia. Tech as well. Duke and VT is that be. careful. >> sleep on Jimbo Saturday. >> Duke's been beating the [ __ ] out of. team. I know they didn't want to rank. them or rank SMU or put any ACC teams in. the top 25, but Missouri is still in. there somehow. >> Best thing that happened was they they. lost at Herby. They lost to Notre Dame.

>> Missou's lost three or four. They're. still in the top 25. >> You tell me. >> I'm just saying be care besides you. bullshitting around with the SEC. Just. be careful Saturday. >> That's what I said. I literally just. said Duke's a hard game. That's what I. said. >> Yes. Yeah. >> Yeah. They're beating the [ __ ] out of. you. >> All your SEC hate. They should be. ranked. Derby, should they not? You. think they should? And I think I think. SMU should really. >> They got Wake this weekend, right? >> Yeah. >> Yeah. A great SMU is going to beat Wake.

Saturday. SMU is going to be ranked when. they get ready for Notre Dame. >> Yeah. But if Wake wins that game, it's. not a ranked win for Wake. It's it I don't SMU is they are right. now scoring on everybody. I I mean. >> and if if Wake beats SMU, that is a. massive win for Wake. SMU is the real. deal. >> But SMU is not ranked to Gumpy's point. So later down the stretch, it's going to. be. >> anybody who knows ball knows if weight. SMU should be ranked. SMU is ranked in.

my mind. I don't care what the committee. SMU is a ranked team. Should be. >> Okay, we all believe that. But I think. what you hear from the little Canadian. ex ship painter in the back there who. loves the Miami Hurricanes is once again. ACC getting zero treatment from the. committee which could then be. potentially held against them later when. decisions are being made. Much like. what's happening with potentially with. Iowa, you know, like well he didn't have. any ranked wins. It's like well SMU is a. good football team. Yeah, but they. weren't right. It's like that's just uh.

that's part of the [ __ ] you know, that's part of the entire. >> [ __ ] that is that. Now, let's. chitchat a little bit uh about NFL. stuff. Let's go to the NFL. >> Can you hear that thunder, by the way? >> Oh, you guys are in it, huh? >> Oh. Uhoh. >> I mean, it is it is. >> big big thunder. Lightning. I I mean, it's it's rain is upon us here in New. York. >> Thunder. Thunder. >> Lightning and a thunder. Thunder.

Thunder. Feel the thunder. Lightning and a thunder thunder thunder. Last week we didn't know a monsoon was. coming. Thanks for that one, >> Kirk. Uh tonight though, it feels like. >> I tried to help I tried to help you last. week. >> I know we didn't hit anything, bro. But. uh the favorites won so much that. DraftKings won't give us a boost this. week. [laughter]. So we beat them so bad on Sunday. We as. a society beat DraftKings so bad. They. said, "Yeah, right. We're not doing many. boosts this week for you." So, uh we're.

riding with Cam Scataboo. So, if he gets. in a paint, go ahead and celebrate for. the boys. But whether Chuck Pagano. brings up tonight's game, Commanders. plus seven turnover margin. Uh New York. Giants minus two. When you think of. these two teams, you think Giants good, Commanders bad. Commanders have that big. of a turnover margin uh differential. from the Giants in this sloppy ass. weather. That could be an actual. difference. What are your thoughts going. into tonight's game? I'm getting more. excited about this particular game every. minute we continue to talk about it.

Chuck just rattled off Commander's. defensive stats and how good the defense. is. And then there's so many storylines. for the Giants with Cam coming back and. JJ McCarthy trying to establish himself. as an NFL quarterback as a whole. For. you, what are the story lines tonight? And how does the weather affect it, you. think? >> Yeah, I mean, I'm with I'm with coach. I. the the commanders just they've just. been inconsistent. And of course at the. end of games it just there's been a b a. bunch of this you know just just what. has happened where they'd have they've. had opportunities to close games out and. they just haven't been able to do that.

But there are moments when you look at. them and think this is a really good. football team. Now they they lost Kinlaw. and Payne on the defensive tackles. That's a significant loss in the. interior of their defense but they've. been able to overcome it. They're. they're still playing really good. defense. Like you turn on the film like. it sounds like coach has done. They. apply pressure. I mean they they get. after the if they can get you they can. slow down your run game and get you into. some obvious passing situations and they. don't always have to dial it up. I mean. they got guys that can get home. They do.

blitz those inside linebackers. Four and. 52 will come after you a bunch but they. got guys off the edge that Chaison who. came over from the Patriots doing a good. job. Um, Ooway is another guy. Coach. knows all about him and what his his. skill set is all about. So, they've got. guys that can pressure. You got JJ. McCarthy on the other side who what a. story that's been. You know, I mean, he. comes out of Michigan as a firstrounder. Um, doesn't work out. I think a lot of. people, including myself, thought that. he and KO would be a really good match.

Has didn't work out for whatever reason. Uh, whether that was with the scheme or, you know, the injuries that he. sustained. Kyler Murray comes over and. lo and behold, he gets an opportunity uh. with Jackson Dart going down. Uh Jameus. Winston kind of kind of held things up. there as long as he could, but they. wanted to get a guy that that was very. similar to Jackson Dart as far as skill. set. So, they go out and get JJ. McCarthy. I don't know if a lot of. people saw this. They were getting. hammered by the Saints 34-10 in the. fourth quarter. Jamus was a starter that.

day and they end up putting JJ McCarthy. in down 34-10 just to give him some reps. in the offense kind of see how he would. do. Next thing you know 3417 but put him. in in the fourth quarter. >> 11 minutes left I think. 11 minutes. left. >> Yeah. Yeah. 3417. 342 24. Next you know. it's 3427. They get the ball. They're. freaking driving. They get down to like. the 14 or 15 yardd line with a chance to. potentially tie it or maybe go for it to. win the game. And I think they all. probably looked around even though they. came up short that game. I think they. looked around and said, "Oh [ __ ] we I.

think we got a guy here." So then they. get they get ready for Houston. They. they go down there and take care of. business with JJ. Wasn't pretty against. Philly, but they found a way to win. Give a nod to Jamus for coming off the. bench, a 14play drive to kind of get a. touchdown up on the board and had to win. an ugly one. Something they haven't been. able to do against Philly in a long. time. Um he obviously took a big hit uh. by Bond and he ended up coming back from. it. he's he's kind of won the team over. You talk to some of the Giants coaches. and players. Um so he's My point is this.

guy was left for debt and for whatever. reason in Minneapolis gets an. opportunity and a second lookout on on. his career even though it's very early. in his career and it's been a good fit. and he he just seems to have that that. confidence and that swag that he had. when he played at Michigan. There's. there's like a belief there for him. right now. So, I I I'm excited to see. can the Giants with Harbaugh in this. first year. This is a franchise, as you. guys know, has just been just been.

frustrating. Just been um not not a. great culture as far as believing in. themselves. Not just always seems like. the shoe drops on the other side. It. just always seems to go against them. And here they are 52 and one. And with a. chance to really eliminate the. Commanders, you already have eliminated. the Eagles. They win tonight. They. eliminate the Commanders. big lead on. Dallas. I mean, they're in control. Now, here's the thing. They're not they're. not playing up to their ability yet. I. mean, they're still not running the ball.

consistently. They're just playing. complimentary football, old school stuff. that is like coach speak, but guess. what? It works. And right now, that's. what they got going. Scataboo, who. missed last week. He went o over 100. yards after he got benched against the. Saints. Came back in this game right. here, went over a 100red yards. best. game of his career. Had a hammy tweak, missed last week against Philly, comes. back this week. So, I'm anxious to see. how he can go with JJ again. See if they.

can get this offense going against this. commander defense that, like I said, there's enough ability over there. If. you get behind the sticks, especially. with this weather, uh it it they got to. get Scataboo going. They got to get. their run game going to take some of the. heat off their passing game. >> Scataboo plus 120 to score a touchdown. tonight. We found that to be fascinating. because what Scataboo does we feel like. is hard yards down by the goal line. scores touchdown. Now there have been. times earlier this year where Harbaugh. didn't have him in on the goal line. He. obviously fumbled. He got benched. He.

comes back. What is the belief from the. Giants in Scataboo as being their. running back one? Because we did hear. the conversation about Jonathan Taylor. potentially getting traded to the New. York Giants because we are believers in. Scataboo. We just saw him before his. hamstring go for what 120 or something. like that. Uh Singleary and uh Tracy. also added like 40 yards a piece in the. back field there for the Giants who are. going to be run dominant I guess anytime. Harbaugh's your head coach. But what is. the belief in Scataboo from Harbaugh? Have you got any any conversations about.

that and kind of how he views him as a. giant? >> Yeah, absolutely. I I think there's been. some growing pains for him. Um, John. Hartball who who coach understands I. mean he he was a part of it. The the. culture is real. Like I said I mean this. is a culture that's been struggling and. coach could tell you he'd probably do a. whole hour on what makes John Harbaugh. effective as a leader. I asked him about. it. I said man it's so impressive to. watch what you did in Baltimore for. decades and now to see what you've done. just year one. What what's the key? You.

know what what what what's the magic. touch? Like what what do you do? and he. and he went on for a long time and. talking about his some of his. philosophies and beliefs. I'm sorry, I'll get to Scatteraboo in a second. I'm. just so impressed by. >> a guy that can come in in the first year. and take a franchise that has a lot of. great history and tradition and they've. just been struggling and here they are. 52 and one and these players are playing. with confidence. They're flying around. They're playing for each other. But he. said there's a partnership with the. players. This can't be you imposing. here's our culture. He's like you can't.

do that today. You you've got to come. in, you got to pour into these players. as people. You got to get to know them. as people. Show them you care about them. as people. And what and then you got to. set goals as a collaboration. Who do we. want to be? Not not I'm the coach, you're the player. Who do we want to be? Well, we want to win the we want to win. the AFC East. Okay, that's a great goal. What else do we what who else do we And. then and then Okay, this is what you. guys are saying you want to do. Well,

guess what? Let's hold each other. accountable and let's go chase these. dreams, man. Let's go chase these goals. together. So, if you're not doing. something that's helping us get to those. goals, I'm going to let you know. If. we're not doing something as a staff to. help you get to those goals, you guys. let us know. Let's do this together, you. know? And I think that way of coaching. is in in today's world really resonates. And then when you have success on top of. that, you find a way to win close games. these players. He he told me he said, "The big thing I found is number one,

there's more talent here than I. realized. And there's a hunger, a. collective hunger here because they've. been kicked around for so long." So, you. mix John Harbaugh's way of creating. culture with talented players that have. been through adversity. They're on their. third quarterback. [ __ ] they had to go, you know, a month ago and go find a. quarterback who's now starting. So, they've faced adversity, but they're. overcoming it. It's just fascinating to. me um to watch this. I'm just so. impressed by it. So, I just had to get. that off my chest. But.

>> No, no, no. But I think I think that uh. goes directly to the Cam Scataboo. situation, which is what I want to tell. you cuz it brought out his best game. He. he played his best game. Go ahead, Herby. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly right. So, Scataboo is a still a young guy that's. learning, getting a lot of attention. Oh, he's, you know, he's this big. physical guy. D and needed to kind of be. held accountable on not making mental. mistakes, not fumbling, not making. mistakes that hurt the team. And if. you're going to hurt the team, no matter.

who you are, guess what? You're not. going to play. So against New Orleans, he's he's over there on the sideline. And as we all know, as a young player, you you get you get benched like that, you can do one of two things. You can. sulk, you can go to your agent, you can. complain, or you can get bowed up and. pissed off and and whatever you were. doing that was making mistakes. You can. want to say I'm going to show you kind. of thing. And to his credit, that's what. Scataboo has done. So, it's not just. boy, he's he's physical and and all.

that. I think he's grown up and I think. that that John Harbaugh and his staff. have have held him accountable. I think. he's responded favorably. And so, yeah, there was some talk about Jonathan. Taylor and and other backs, but I think. they feel good. They'd love to have. Tracy, Tyler Tracy, healthy. He's on the. IR to give him a little bit more of a. one-two punch. They got Single Terry. back there, but this is as much their. running game is as much on the offensive. line being more consistent than it is on. 44. You know, against Houston, they go. for 188. Last week against Philly, they.

go for 80. So, it's I think they're. searching for consistency with the line. play when it comes to their running. game. They're doing a great job in pass. pro, but they got to do a much more. consistent job of running the football, >> especially in a sloppy one like it's. going to be tonight with the weather. I. think this bodess well for a Harball. offense with JJ McCarthy, Cam Scataboo, and the lads. We'll see if they're able. to do it. Commanders team could be a. problem. Jaden Daniel is a good football.

player, right? >> Oh, yeah. >> Really good. He rushed for over a. hundred I think against the Giants the. last time they played. Will he be able. to do that again? I would say no. I. think it's a different Giants defense. What are you thinking from the commander. side and their thoughts on how to attack. this much more and bringing Giants. defense? >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. I I talked to. Dinard Wilson, their their defensive. coordinator this morning. First of all, really impressive guy. Really really. sharp dude. Was with Tennessee the last. couple years. came over with when. Harbaugh had this opportunity for him. and has a defense that that's playing.

very very well. They're not giving up. very many explosives at all. They're. they're top five uh in the league as far. as uh explosives. So, they make you earn. it. You s you know about the rookie. Arville Reese out of Ohio State and what. he's capable of doing coming off that. three sack game, 12 tackles, forced to. fumble. He was he was incredible. But. Jaden Daniels did get out on him that. first game about a month ago. he was. able to. All of it was off scrambles. None of it was designed. And that that's. the difference with David Blau now. taking over for Cliff Kingsbury. They're.

under center more. They're trying to. take some of the wear and tear off of. Jaden Daniels who obviously had a number. of injuries a year ago that affected his. his his and his team's performance. So. they they've been under center. They're. trying to get their running game going. They've got injuries themselves in the. back field. They've got their starting. center is down. That's an issue for. them. They had some bad snaps last week, but as far as Jaden Daniels ability, um, we all know that this guy is a pocket. quarterback, but has dynamic playmaking.

ability. Um, and this is what he did. against the Giants. If you play. man-to-man, this is what you're going to. get. And they played a ton of man and. they blitzed. They played zero, I think, 16 snaps uh, in this game. And you play. zero against Jaden Daniels, you you. better have a spy or you better have him. contained. and you know they did for the. most part, but there were a couple times. he was able to get out and make them. pay. So, and by the way, this first. game, as you can see, it was sloppy. weather there as well. So, round two.

looks like it's going to be very similar. as far as [laughter]. >> it's a great celebration. >> It's a great celebration. >> It is. >> I like that. I like that. But, yeah, can. can he throw the football tonight? Giants are are really gonna try to keep. him in the pocket, try to keep zone eyes. on him, not let him have backs turned to. him where he can get out and go. And. they are going to play some man because. they do such a good job of it. And if. they do, Arville Reese and Company, somebody's going to have to spy him and. not let him get out. >> All right. Well, we can't wait for.

tonight. Week 10 kicking off on Amazon. Prime with this man and Michaels and. Kaye Hartung and Clarissa Thompson and. Tony Gonzalez and Ryan Fitzpatrick. >> and Whit and Sh. >> and. >> the pregame show starts at 7 with. Carissa and the lads. >> It's good. >> Mhm. >> They do a great job. >> They do. And we travel on Thursdays to. uh the places. So, we watch the night.

cap as well. They do good shows. I I. thought they made an aggressive decision. with the dry race board listing out uh. their seven NFC playoff teams. >> in real time. >> Sure. >> All of them are doing it. That's tough. Chris was just Chris is just sitting. there waiting on them, you know, and. then get over to Sherm. Sherm was like, "Uh, I only got my first four. I still. got other three." [laughter] Like, "All. right, we'll wait." They they put up I. like the spontaneity it feels like and. the camaraderie of that particular show. I think they're a good show and they.

give us. >> and Wit Wit's down to playing I think. Wit's trying to come back as a tight. end. >> Handsome. I I. >> handsome lad down to about 210. >> and he's a giant. You you forget how big. these. >> freaks are. You know they are sideh. shows. >> That's a monster. >> Monster hands gigantic. I I forget what. field it was. Uh he walked out on to. must been LA. I would assume he was. there. >> And what does he do? What is what does. he do? >> I immediately I immediately w he walked.

out. We're in 30 seconds from coming. back on Monday night countdown to make. our picks. We're out there on the field. I see Big Wick coming. I go sprint right. over to him. I get down and three-point. You know, I'm on an NFL field with a. Hall of Fame tackle right now. Let me. see what this feels like. You know, let. me see what this feels like. I think I. get him. Just [laughter] so we know. He. does give me good shove on shoulder. I. mean, and I probably end up, you know, probably right down into the mud, but. Whit is the man. Okay, we'll watch that. tonight. We can't wait for tonight. We.

thank you. NFL had huge storylines, brother. Huge storylines this week, especially trade deadline day. One in. particular feels like it could have. Super Bowl implications. Coach has a. question for you, Herby. >> Herby, you mentioned Minneapolis. Kirk. Cousins goes back to the Vikings, reunited over back there. uh him and JJ. had an unbelievable season back in 2022. How much pressure is KOC? How much. pressure is on KOC to make sure that. that this thing goes uh as planned? And. and it just feels like with the.

quarterbacks that he had with Carson and. Kyler Murray, he was trying to fit a. round peg into a square hole and now. he's got a system guy, a guy that fits. his system. Do you see it that way? I I. I I I'm still I still think Kirk Cousins. still has it, you know, and I think you. put him into a familiar system like. that. I I think it's turnkey. I think. that's the one guy that you could bring. in at the trade deadline and give them. an opportunity to get back to be more. effective at that position. Um you know, everybody talks about, man, they had a. chance to lock in Darnold after the year. that he had, but that's that's water.

under the bridge at this point. They got. to find a guy that can run this offense. and who better to and again with the way. they're playing defensively. You don't. have to come in and and be a hero. Ju. just come in and make some good. decisions. Let's not turn the football. over. Um but man, I I think it's a. perfect fit. I'm anxious. I'm so fired. up to see what Minnesota's going to do. from this point on. And he just again. just because of his personality. Even. the way he walks right there, he just. has a calming effect, a calming. personality. and but I think the.

familiarity with the scheme um and and. being very very effective when he was. there as a player, I I think it's it's a. perfect fit. Now, let's see if it works. like you said. But my my message to him. would be, hey man, don't feel like you. got to come in here and save us. Just. come in here and play smart football, which is what he's done his whole. career. So, I I think this is a great a. great pickup for him. >> Uh we all agree on that. The videos. coming out from both the reunion of him. going back and how they viewed him. whenever he was there. I think I forgot.

just in this day-to-day stuff with him. going to Atlanta and then to Las Vegas, it's like I I think I forgot that he was. their guy. I mean, whenever he was their. guy and when we watched quarterback, you. go back to it, it's like, >> yeah, he was very beloved in the entire. state of Minnesota, his family loved it. He said yesterday in his press. conference, uh, that his wife Julie, I. believe, uh, Julie, uh, did they didn't. know if they wanted to move the kids. because where it's at right now. semester-wise in sports and everything. And I guess Julie went and asked the. kids what they want to do and they said,

"Let's go." They wanted to get back to. Minnesota. So, >> well, what what a home they had. Remember that beautiful home they had? >> Oh, yeah. Making fire. >> Good fire. >> Making fires. That's a nice fire coupe. Yeah. That was. >> Yeah. [laughter] And then down in the. basement, too. The two uh. >> Oh, yeah. Playing knee football down in. the basement. Yeah. >> Well, and also the two uh I don't know. how else to describe them, so I hope. they do not take older folks that were. his body gurus. REMEMBER THEY HAD LIKE. >> TWO grandma's blankets on top of him. while he was down there. Had his little. little brain scan thing on in his.

office. >> That's back. >> Yeah. Wow. >> Let's do it. By the way, by the way, like we did with college football, I. know you got to end your this hour. >> We got time. >> Okay. Like we did with college football, if you picked right now who's going to. the Super Bowl. Here's mine. Jacksonville Chicago Super Bowl. >> Oh, okay. Now, we will say people are.

calling Jacksonville the AFC's Chicago. Chicago goes on prime time, pounds the. Seattle Seahawks. Makes a huge addition. of Jeffrey Simmons to the defense. And. what everybody thought was their. potential weakness that could hold them. back now becomes a strength. Easy to see. why you pick the Bears. Jags. little stoner goes crazy on trade dead. like that. I I just want I want pro. bowlers. I I want potential future first. pilot Hall of Famer at every level on. the defensive side. Let's just drop.

these pros into what we already have. cooking. I think they've won what 15 and. two or I I forget the number. There's. some sort of record over the last 17. It's just outrageous. And Liam, this. mastermind of a motivator, he wears. Louis Vuitton shoes and he'll sprint. into a team meeting room and rally the. boys to go to war. I I love the way. they've turned. >> I like the I like the like the tight. sweats he's going with, too. I like I. like the look that he's got going with. the vest. He looks he looks the part,

you know, and then he's and he's a good. he's really good at being pissed off, you know? He just he's kind of born with. a chip on his shoulder. I I I I like it. I think that more importantly the team. responds to it because it's it's him. It's it's authentic and those pickups. were massive. We of course had them the. other week where they didn't have those. uh players and they're already a really. good football team and what they're. doing on that offense. Trevor Lawrence. has never played better in his career. and so it's it's it's a legit team. AFC.

is going to be a grind. Part of me hopes. that Josh Allen eventually is going to. get it, but uh if Jacksonville keeps. winning and they get home field, I don't. know. I I think they're the team to beat. AFC. I got I got them and the Bears in. the Super Bowl. >> Okay. See, that means you like the Bears. in the NFC North as well, which could. potentially have all four teams dancing. in the playoffs inevitably. NFC race. Uh. con man, you got the Patriots and who? >> Uh I'll go Patriots and actually Rams. I.

kind of think the Rams are going to go. on a run. I know they're on the outside. looking in, but and they they're banged. up, but I feel like they can win in. multiple ways. We're talking about Puka. being out. That sucks. They can hand the. ball off 40 times a game with Corm and. Kairen Williams. So, I actually think. the the Rams are going to go on a pretty. crazy run here. >> And they might get healthy late, which. would make them very dangerous. And if. Aaron Donald can get back to form with. what Miles Garrett just did, defense. becomes definitely championship caliber. Crazy pick. Would not have expected. that. Packers are taking on who, Ty. >> I'd love to see the Packers and the. Buffalo Bills. Oh, Josh Allen all the.

way back. >> getting a chance to get to the Super. Bowl. Imagine the world. >> watching Josh Allen in a Super Bowl for. the first, you know, somewhere in um. Frank, not Frankfurt. Uh they watch a. lot of football there. >> Bali. >> Yeah, somewhere in Bali. Super Bowl's. on. Okay, >> Super Bowl's on. Uh local TV, maybe cafe. of some sort. Walk by. Oh, Super Bowl's. on. Let's go and watch. I never seen a. sport before. Josh Allen pops on a. screen. What the hell is that thing? That thing is really tall, really fast,

can throw it 75 yards and can outrun. everybody. He is special talent with. that team they have. And then they'll. pound the rock. 30 touches plus for. James Cook. 31 touches over a 100 yards. against that Vikings defense. They were. fun to watch on Monday night. At the. beginning, very KY affair. And then at. halftime, Joe Brady started cooking. And. uh Joe before that game told me on. Monday Night Countdown whenever I asked. him about Brian Flores's defense, you. know, direct match up there. Brian. Flores defense, Joe Brady's offense.

What is your immediate thought? He goes, "They have to play us." That was what he. said into a microphone on television. before Monday Night Football. He was not. happy that that was a narrative. I love. that. I think the boys love that. Could. very easily see the Bills dancing for. the first time this year in Josh Allen's. era. And they would Can the defense do. it though? I mean, that's the question, Kirk. Can the defense do it? >> Uh, yeah. I mean, they don't I don't. think they want to be in that position. to have to outscore people, but I think. Joe Brady as a head coach and not just.

an OC, he's he's calling the game smart. where he's trying to put his defense in. a position to be able to play. complimentary football to what the. offense is doing. And if they can stay. healthy, I think they got enough on that. defense to be able to put them in a. position where Josh Allen doesn't have. to feel like, oh man, who who do I got. to outscore today? Um, but as you guys. know, all comes down to home field. advantage. That's why now that we're in. the second half of the season, who's. going to win these games? Who's going to. stay healthy? Um, that's that's. interesting right there.

>> Yeah, buddy. >> Who's Who's Who is the two seed right. now? >> Denver. >> Yeah, Denver. >> Okay. >> Maybe it's JOSH ALLEN'S YEAR. >> WHOA. OH, I THOUGHT YOU JUST had. >> I know I'm going Jacksonville, but I. sentimentally I'd love to see Josh Allen. >> get one. >> Okay, I like that. Not so Cincinnati. Bengals hanging around out there. >> Yeah, and that's obviously a part of the. conversation. They just had a rusher go. for 100 yards. Their offensive line was.

on top five offensive lines in the. trenches with AQ Shipley from week nine. So, that was an abnormal thing we could. not have expected. That's part of the. story. And Tone, who do you have in the. Super Bowl to continue Kirk's thought. here? Pittsburgh Steelers versus who? >> Niners. >> Steelers versus Niners. >> Ah, >> I think they could do it all. Their. defense is getting healthy. They're. getting all their guys back. They're now. as long as the substation doesn't shred. beef uh all their wide receivers. Um. like the memes that Connor was referring. to yesterday that were hilarious. If. they get all their guys back and they.

can stay healthy, which is a huge one. for them, um I really like what they're. doing. >> I still have yet to laugh in an AI. video. No, >> I I laugh at every single one. >> I didn't laugh at one. >> There hasn't been one that I haven't. laughed at. Every single one. >> Jerry jumped out of the press box. You. weren't laughing at that one. >> I didn't laugh at that. I didn't laugh. at any of these things. [clears throat]. >> Boy, we went right past 1:00. Didn't. even bother you. >> What? >> We pushed it. >> No, we pushed the break. >> I didn't know you're allowed to do that. I didn't know. I I always thought it was. like hard out. Hey ho, hey ho.

>> We do. We hard out. 57 normal. Okay, that's 57 is target time. We got three. minutes there, you know, no other. commercials. I guess we're allowed to. technically say commercial free first. hour even though we have three minutes. of commercials in that first hour. So, you know, I don't but yeah, we just punt. that thing down the road. Bruce Brown. back there gets on a call with uh. Transmission up there at ESPN says, "Hey, we're going to go ahead and move. that thing back until 110 this time. because you were really grooving, we. thought." So, you know, we're trying to. project what time and you were really in.

it. I mean, that commander breakdown I. don't think I expected. I did like it. I. did. I feel more informed, but you were. rolling. So, we just pushed that thing. to 110. Just go ahead and punt that. >> Plus, we got predictions. >> Exactly. >> Just punted it right down the right down. to 110. >> Boom. Said, "Get on back here." AND THEY. SAID, "YOU GOT IT." AND we said, "All. right.". >> You guys do that a lot. I didn't I. didn't know you guys did that. >> Yeah. We'll do it on a pretty regular. basis nowadays, especially with the. conversations cooking. This time of. year, there's so much happening. >> Oh, man. So much. >> I don't know how these people go to. commercial breaks. Like I I respect it,

but it's like they got like 12 minutes. and then they go and then there's 12. minutes and then they go. It's like we. would never be able to do that. Now. there's some days in June, >> July, >> you would love those. >> Oh, it'd be nice to be able to throw it. somewhere for a couple minutes, you. know, and just kind of come back. afterwards with a whole new subject plan. idea. But we benefit from the way our. brains operate in this particular. fashion. And I do think it's a little. bit more of a digital presence on a. linear television, which is probably how. the marketing is going to be in the. future. I think it's probably a good.

little sample for it all that it. actually does work and you can be. profitable utilizing digital philosophy. with linear advertising because the 30. secondond ad is that really doing [ __ ]. anymore. I don't know. That's up for. those people to decide. But if you got a. tag team partner like Buffalo Trace. right here, >> sure. >> Or maybe you got the seat kick ticker. down there who has been so incredibly. kind to us. And then you go down the. line and you say, "You know what? this. Ram truck. If I want to get one that's. powerful, luxurious, and something I. want to showcase around the town, I go. ahead and get myself a Ram.

truck. >> Yeah. So, that's how we go about doing. it. Herpie, just wasted three minutes. We actually have to punt this thing to. 115 because there's a lot of other. questions that we have for you. Uh Chuck. Bagano, who is your Super Bowl teams. that will be representing in Los Angeles. on ESPN, our first Super Bowl here. You. know, I have an affinity for Josh Allen. and the Buffalo Bills, Wyoming alumni. I. just don't know. Do if they would have. went out and got another pass rusher up. in Buffalo, I would have been all in on. them. But I think Denver's got the more.

complete team. So, I like Denver versus. the NerS. >> Okay. >> Good one. >> Oh, Nick, he wins those close ones. You. have to. That's what the playoffs. >> IT'S WIDE OPEN. IT'S WIDE OPEN. THERE'S. so many teams. >> Yeah. The AFC AFC pretty much locked in. on the seven that are probably going to. make it. Obviously, there's teams. lurking in the AFC, but if you look at. the records, feels like AFC. It's going. to be this collection in some sort of. order. The NFC though, lot of question. marks, man. Lot of question marks on how. they're going to figure it out. And this. Minnesota Vikings team, nobody has said.

it after what we just saw from their. defense and how bad Carson Wentz was. And that was still a game against the. Buffalo Bills for a bit. It's like the. Vikings could very easily make to the. Super Bowl this year. Jacksonville could. very easily make to the Super Bowl this. year. Obviously, the Bears, San. Francisco 49ers, current odds on. favorite. Buffalo Bills, are they going. to do it? Joe Burrow, are you going to. win a Super Bowl, have been able to. dance before you got your best team? I. mean, there is so many things, a lot of. football left. You know who's not going. to make it, Herby? >> Who? >> I don't think the Colts. Next year. >> Probably not. >> Nah, >> not this year. Next year, though. Next.

year, we're going to make it. >> Next year, them and the Mounties. together, they're going to form an. alliance. >> Don't even tell me about the. Mountaineers. You know, we have the. worst defense ever documented. >> Yeah. So do the Colts. >> Where's Jeff? Where's Jeff Castile when. you need. >> him? Castile, love him. He's on a golf. course. I think he's retired. He's a. legend. We love him. But get back to the. Super Bowl. The amount of teams that. could win it does feel pretty open right. now. And injuries obviously play a huge. factor in all this. Let's just assume no. more injuries happen either. Herby, >> that uh lurking costume or lurk lurking.

conversation by the way, huge one this. weekend, Houston and Cleveland. The. loser of that one probably, you know, not lurking as much anymore, but the. winner still still has very much a. chance. So, the lurking figures could. become a dwindling species on this. particular graphic as the weeks roll on. Lot of implications every single Sunday. Go ahead, Herby. >> I I had two questions. Tone one for. tone. Tone Steelers at 6 and two. Are. they real? Okay. And then for coach,

>> is it I' I've been saying Boise for a. long time. [laughter]. I've been saying it. I since Kell Moore, Jared Zabbransky, Ian Johnson, I I've. covered a lot of great Boise State. teams, but boy was it hit. We got hit. over the head on a call Monday, Pat and. I, that it's boy. >> boy. >> That's correct, Herby. Boyisey. >> Well, how come how should we say it? Saturday. >> Boy, like you have to pause like that or.

you can say welcome to Boyisey. >> You don't have to pause. >> Oh, you did really well with Say it, coach. Like like you say it like you say. it, coach. Boyy. >> Yeah, but this guy's got a I mean, we. can't be. >> Boy, you're getting set me up, Herby. >> There's two of them. Boyish. >> See, you. >> like a punching bag in this goddamn. thunder, >> right? >> Oh, boo. >> Shut up. >> But but but are they do they get upset? They get really upset about that.

>> I No. No. I mean, they're good people. You want to you want to go in and you're. going to represent your name on the back. of your jersey and the decal on your. ESPN and all that stuff, but no, I. [laughter] mean, >> they've let me stick around and I I it's. mostly a Z with me when I've always said. it, but but I get corrected by family. and stuff, but you guys can do no wrong, Herby. >> Okay, but I'm we're going to hear. Boisey. Like people are going to be. walked around and say, "Man, it's. awesome to be in your guys' beautiful uh. city here. What's it called?" They say.

like that. That boy. >> Perfect. Boyy, >> boyy boy. >> because it's a little noisy in here and. it's uh got a little noisy here and uh. >> coach coach, how do we go? Who do we. call about going fly fishing? >> We got you covered. I got I got a big. old yard for Peter, too. I wanted to. throw that out for you. So, you got a. park. You got a park right downtown. You. can take him to the park. You know the. green belt. You've been there before. So. you can take him on the green belt or. you can bring him over to uh Pano State. and put it we'll put him in the backyard.

and let him hunt. >> I love it. >> I like letting him hunt out there. Listen, >> let the boy hunt. >> We'll let Peter decide if he's going to. your house. Okay. You don't just open. You know how many open invites Peter's. got to houses. Everybody wants him to. [ __ ] in their yard. Everybody wants. Peter [ __ ] in their yard. He's hot [ __ ]. right now. >> Yes, he is. >> Yes, he is. You walk around with Peter, it is really like uh there he is. Holy. [ __ ] That's the do. That is the do. Even the people that don't know his. name, it's like that's the one right. there. We see it every He's got four or. five different commercials right now.

Peter's got more jobs than Kirk. You. know that? >> He does. He does. >> He's unbelievable. >> He just shot an AT&T commercial this. week. >> Shout out. [laughter]. >> What? >> Yeah, Peter. >> Love that. >> Hey, he's the right dog for it. I would. I would like to let people know. >> he's a dog. The He's very. >> He's a good man. He's a good boy. >> He is a good boy. >> He looks bulllegged when he runs on that. plane. Is he kind of bleeding? Huh? He's. pigeon toaded. Toes goes in. No, he hit. a 44 like that. Ed [laughter].

was pigeon like a mother. >> Boom. Boom. Boom. Boom. Boom. >> Yes. >> Yeah. I I think Peter could get that. done. I I I I think Peter could get the. job done. Um All right. We appreciate. you, Herby. Good luck tonight. >> Thank you, boys. >> We'll see you, boys. >> Let's have a game tonight. >> Here we go. Is it still thundering? >> Lightning. >> Oh my god. >> Oh, >> yeah. There you go. >> Yeah, there it is. Oh, >> perfect timing, I guess. >> It's brutal out. >> Okay, so it just cut you off completely. Your internet just got cut off. completely right there.

>> Can barely see. >> Can't see. >> Wow. This guy they got some real. building. >> You in the shitty or hoboken? >> Yeah. Where are you? >> We're we're we're uh on 50. >> No, you don't have to give Exactly. You. don't have to give exactly just, you. know. >> Look at that. The shitty. >> Kendrick Perkins came on and was like, I. was at Jamaica Bay last night. Be there. night. be right in the lobby if you want. to come see me. >> Kendrick perk as you said. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. I was just reminiscing on Perk.

Can you go back to Peter, please? Sorry. I I thought we were talking about Big. Park right there. >> Is that a house? >> Stretch him out. >> Stretch him out. >> He's not bull, buddy. >> Look at that. >> A good dog. >> I'll get that. Hey, Peter. You're a good dog. >> And look, they they were nice. They they. always do this for him. They got the. treats for him. >> That's nice. >> Nice bed. >> Those gluten-free. Does he fit on that. thing, >> dude? He's paying for all that [ __ ] I I.

mean, Peter's. >> a fitting on that thing, Kirk. >> Oh, yes, he is. Is that. >> Yeah. [laughter]. >> Ain't big enough. It looks. >> Oh, yeah. He just said that thing. Yeah. >> There's the couch. >> He said, "Good effort, hotel. I need. Yes. >> Yeah. Go ahead, Peter. Get. >> up, buddy." Yeah. Yeah, >> he's tired. >> That's working like a dog. >> This guy's a giant. >> He knows how to put on a show, this guy. >> Well, yesterday he had AT&T commercial. They had him there for 12, 13 hours. You. know how they do these things? Reshoot,

re-shoot, re-shoot, re-shoot. >> He had an eight hour shoot on uh on. Monday. So, he's he's tired. He's had a. long week already. >> We appreciate Peter working like a dope. >> You're the man. Uh you're the best. We'll see you tonight. That's Curb. Street. Hey, >> cool dog, Peter. >> Watching him grow and mature has been. fun. >> I I think he does kind of know. >> that his [ __ ] don't stink. I I think he. does know that, >> but he's not too egotistical about it, but he does certainly sniff around some.

rear ends and say, "I don't like this. one here." And then just keeps it. moving. He's handsome boy, big boy. And. that's first hour here as we uh creep. into 15 Eastern. Uh what a first hour on. this week 10 Thursday kickoff as Kirk. Herb Street. He broke down every aspect. of every. >> part of every single thing that could. happen tonight. >> What did we learn? Bad weather. >> Yes. >> Really bad. >> We learned that Jaden Daniels ran for a. 100 last time. They're going to be. thinking about keeping him inside which.

kind of football stuff. We learned from. uh the Giants perspective they like Cam. Scaboo. They're just thinking, "Hey, this is part of coaching. as part of. John Harbaugh and they're connected. locker room. Did you hear anything else. that I just missed right there? >> Turnovers. >> Commanders missing two interior linemen. >> Yep. >> Yeah, that's huge. >> Defensive line. Sorry. >> Offensive line really. machine and run game. >> Injury centers out for Washington could. be a deal. >> Sounds like two of you right there. >> Trenches. >> What? >> Let's get you a break. >> The first hour here. We hope you had a. good time. Be a friend. Tell a friend.

something nice that could change your. life. Take three. Three. Shout out to Home Depot. Shout out to. Notre Dame. And shout out to the kicking. is easy contest because we've had. legends join us. Kirk, I mean. >> Joe Montana. [cheering]. >> Are you. for you and the guy? >> Our kicker today who won the raffle is a. man named Michael Milano. Michael, how.

you doing? What year are you here at. school? >> I'm a junior here. >> Okay. What's your major, brother? I'm. premed. >> Have you ever kicked anything before, Michael? >> Never. I've never kicked anything. >> You have cleats on. >> These are my roommates cleat on. >> Roommates cleat. I've never kicked. before. >> Before we get to your kick, Michael, I. was wondering if you'd be okay with us. having this dancing leprechaun attempt. to kick for some charity. Is that okay? >> Of course. >> Okay. So, maybe the leprechaun will. actually show you how to do something. Is that all right? >> Let's do it. >> I think this should be a $500,000. donation.

>> [cheering]. [screaming]. [laughter]. [cheering]. >> LEPRECHAUNI. [cheering and applause]. There was one man who is a premed major. who had to sit and watch the leprechaun.

just drain a $500,000 kick. Joe Montana, >> what would your messaging be here to. fellow Paison as he attempts to kick for. $1 million? >> You got it. Don't even think about it. We can always blame the holder. [laughter]. PLEASE bring out the blockers for Milano. here who lied to our face.

>> Michael Irvin representing one of the. blockers. >> Gumpy representing one OF THE OTHER. BLOCKERS. TWO Miami Hurricane. legends. >> Two legends. >> Can off Michael Irvin who might be. dancing on your brain and dancing on the. sideline. Gumpy's talking trash, too. >> Gumpy, he's an ex ship painter from. Canada. >> Yeah, >> that guy wants to block your kick. Must. >> Mr. Milano. for $1 million.

[screaming]. [cheering]. [cheering]. >> Yeah, let's have a couple jokes. LET'S. ADD A COUPLE. OH my god.

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atmosphere and environment is normally. pretty ludicrous. A football town. hosting college game day this weekend. for first time long time. We are very. eager and excited to see how you guys do. it. Joining us now from an attic in Ohio. is a man who's a college football. national champion, Super Bowl champion, Rder Cup winner. Ladies and gentlemen, AJ Haw. Hey, >> how you doing, Hako? >> I'm doing great. It was good to see Kirk. came on here. What? He was really like. putting everybody's feet to the fire. wanting predictions like multiple. different things. I feel like. >> Yeah, I think he wanted to do his, so he.

he didn't want to do it all by himself. I think he wanted he wanted everybody. else to kind of jump in there with him. Now, since he's not on here, and I know. he's potentially watching, you need to. give yours as well. Who's college. football? >> I knew you'd say that, but yeah. >> So, then you have it prepared. Come on. Go ahead. >> No, I don't have it prepared. I remember. what I realized when Kirk was doing this. and like when he was doing it, I thought. like, wow, this is was this a mandate. someone gave him that to make sure. everyone gets predictions out today. >> Yeah, it might have been a Herb Street. mandate. We kind of were experiencing it. in real time. You won't give a college. football playoff national championship.

because Ohio State probably not making. >> Oh, too early. Hey, hopes hopes are. still alive. They may be slim, but. they're still alive. I like that there's. still hope over there because from our. understanding of how the Ohio State. Buckeye [clears throat] fans operate. whenever there is a little bit of uh. gloomy days it gets really loud. Maybe. they're able to get back on track. Okay, you won't give us college football. playoff national championship because. you hate Kirk Herb Street. That's. interesting. [laughter] Both you guys. are elk. How about you give us a Super. Bowl then AJ? Go ahead and go to the. NFL. It's a mandate from the Herb. Street. Who's going to be playing in a. Super Bowl? Maybe your Packers.

>> Okay. Yeah, I I I will I I'll fall into. the peer pressure. Give me the uh the. Green Bay Packers against the Buffalo. Bills. >> Okay. said that. >> Yeah, you just. >> I know you did. I'm co-signing Tai. I. I've been big on the Bills for a long. time now, and the Packers are starting. to put it together, and Mike is about to. be thrust into the lineup. >> Yes. Okay. So, you're okay making. predictions uh way too early. >> It could change at any time, though. You. know that. >> Yeah. And if Ohio State had one loss, you know, I'm sure he would be able to. give you a national championship there, too. And I do respect and appreciate. that. And I hope Denzel Washington nails.

it whenever he plays you in our movie. later in life. >> We're running out of time, man. And we. need to we need to make it happen. >> Since you were how old did you think it. should be? Denzel five. >> I like did you write it down? Was there. something? >> No, it's all boom. >> Was that training? Was that training day. or when you how. >> he was very good at training day, but I. mean Denzel has not he he's been. unbelievable in every movie he's ever. been in. >> That was probably more Philadelphia. Denzel. >> Probably Philadelphia. >> Okay. >> If Denzel is signing up for it, I think. we all agree it's going to be good for.

sure. Hey, that's just kind of our. natural reaction for Denzel Washington. is like if he's in it, he's going to be. awesome and he's going to be a badass. and we appreciate what he has done in so. many different countries and in so many. different situations in these movies. He's the best. Uh it's also like Tom. Cruz, why everybody say Digger was bad. >> They're already starting to come back. around on that. >> It's good, isn't it? >> It's going to end up being like a cult. classic. Yeah. And especially everybody. in the industry is like everyone [ __ ]. about you don't want you all you want is. an original movie because all they do is. superhero m movies and then they make an. original one and everyone shits on it.

and says it sucks. It's like what do you. think studios are going to do now then? They're never going to make a movie like. this again. But it's starting to come. back around. Everyone's saying Tom Cruz. Tom Cruz is unbelievable in this. Like. maybe people kind of missed the mark. miss the point of of what. >> who would be the who would the people. be? >> Uh critics. A lot of critics. >> What are they? What What are the critics. normally? Who who are normally the. critics? Like what what group? Like. that's uh its own genre of people. because what it used to be Cisco and. Eert. >> Yeah. >> Two thumbs up. >> What do they not like about the movie? I.

guess. What are people saying is bad? >> The critics, right, are saying this. Not. everybody. Not people. >> A lot of the stuff I've read is that. it's just like kind of thrown together. and it like feels like it's just very. like sloppily made and like, you know, they're really going for satire, but. it's like it's it almost makes no sense. It feels very jumbled. Um, >> sort of like artsy, isn't it? Isn't it. shot kind of differently? >> But then wouldn't the critics like that? >> They normally would, but I'm guessing. they don't like whatever the subject. matter is. >> Oh, so AJ knows the answer. It sounds. like a AJ, >> I haven't seen the movie, and I haven't. done much research on it, but that I.

would assume there's a lot of personal. feelings involved. >> Okay, we don't like that. We maybe we. should put our own personal feelings uh. aside and just go watch Digger and see. how. >> I don't think the audience score was. super high either. >> 77, which you know, >> that's not terrible. Is that good? That's that's typically not TC, you. know, that's that's pretty low for TC's. standard. >> Whatever the case, we need to watch it. in here. We need to get that. >> They're going to Is this going to. tarnish his legacy? >> Never. That's not even I love him. I. love it.

>> What? >> He still might get nominated for an. Oscar for. >> down. Charlie, >> why do you do that? >> Not when it comes to TC. >> I know you wanted to just get that that. shot off right there. I know you. >> I'm not trying to do nothing. What does. he have against Tom? Uh, >> love Tom. >> Let's see. Here's some of the reactions. This is No, we're not getting into this. I'm not reading this. No [laughter] way. Let's move along. >> Come back around. >> All right. Good. I I will watch it. I. will love it. I will appreciate it. Just. like I will respect the hell out of. however Denzel Washington portrays you.

in the inevitable movie about your life. AJ, you're the best. You know what isn't. the best? When your team uh trades for. somebody. >> and you get excited, >> it's announced. >> Mhm. and then the trade just. >> falls through. There's been a lot of. these recently, more so than I can kind. of remember, and we are younger in this. game, even though we've been doing it. for damn near a decade at this point. But it feels like there's a lot more. incomplete trades these days than there. has been in the past. And we only put.

quotations around these things because. this is what is being said by others in. the building, not us. The. misunderstanding for the Cincinnati. Bengals uh backing out of that trade was. allegedly discovered via a tweet from. one a Bengals fan who works for who's. the Bengals fan who works over the cap. So this Bengals fan allegedly puts a. post on X that says like hey there's a. compensatory pick that that's going to. have to happen. Allegedly Bengals see it. after already agreeing to trade but I.

guess not completely signing trade into. actuality and they go that's on us. That's We had no idea we were going to. be giving that up, too. We can't be. doing that. We are This is a. misunderstanding. We are We are so. sorry. We We didn't know that was the. case. Zach came out and said, "We got to. know that." Like, that's something that. that we just completely got wrong. So, shout out to Nick Corthy here on X and I. think I guess Nick Corti has helped them. in the past on X with another situation. where they were owed something uh maybe. like 2023 and they see it from him and.

they get it. So Nick Corti who works for. over the cap also known advisor. consultant and fixer for the Cincinnati. Bengals through his ex account and Zack. Taylor say it's on us that's on us but. we did catch it before we actually had. to so better late than never I guess and. then the failed physical conversation is. one that's so interesting and Diane. Henley uh was traded from the Chargers. and we all thought it was very. fascinating because it was in the. division uh Harbaugh said he was staying.

put. We couldn't have expected this. And. then a a failed physical comes back uh. basically deeming that their doctors. don't think they were told exactly what. they were getting. You go all the way. back to Max Crosby going all the way to. Baltimore when he was traded from the. Raiders. One of the biggest trades we've. seen in football, >> history of football. You're talking a. guy who is very well respected, allpro, Pro Bowl, the face of the Raiders. Uh. just an absolute stud. A man who's going. to be a Hall of Famer someday. He gets.

traded. Holy hell, this is crazy. Goes. to Baltimore. He's in the building. hearing about it, talking about it. What. are the Raiders now? They're making a. bunch of moves. They're in a a. transition phase, moving on from the old. Max Crosby's out. He's gone. And then. there's a failed physical of some sort. And Crosby is back on the Raiders. Actually, he was in the Ravens building. They moved on. We celebrated him. We. thanked him. We did the entire c. He's. back on the Raiders now because of. failed physical. And the thing that's. interesting about failed physicals is I. don't think we ever get like full.

explanation of the diagnosis. It's. always just like ah we saw we saw. something in there. It's degenerative. from our doctor's eyes and it is. >> it's subjective right Pat would you is. it subjective? So some one doctor could. query you and the other team of doctors. could say no you fail. >> Yes. And you can maybe have a specialist. who sees something different than all. the other doctors and they see. something. And I'm not saying it's ever. like buyer's remorse or regret or once. you meet the person and this might. actually be an actual failed physical. And if it is a failed physical then the.

teams that sent the player to the other. team are kind of doing the other team. pretty dirty. Yeah. If so, anytime a. failed physical comes back, it's always. got to be like this because you don't. know the severity of the failed physical. cuz how you can fail these physicals is. very um the range is huge. >> Uh in two years from now, we didn't know. that his elbow could potentially have a. degenerative arthritic thing where he's. not going to be able to move. Our doctor. saw that. So, that's a little bit. different. We do not pass him in this.

particular case. Chuck, you've been in. the NFL 19 years obviously as a head. coach. A lot of these conversations, a. lot of trades happen, the failed. physical thing pops up. Why? What is the. player we just saw him play probably. will play again and then that team. that's getting him, they just saw. something different. They didn't expect. it. Like when why does that normally. happen here? >> Yeah, you hope that's the case, but like. AJ said, it is subjective how they see a. MRI, how they read a CAT scan. Um, yeah, I we were never privy. We got the. doctor's reports and it wasn't like,

okay, hey, look, we found out something. different. Hey, we need to go in and. this thing probably shouldn't work out. We need to kill the. >> We need to kill this thing and and I. don't think that knee I don't think that. shoulder I don't think that elbow is. going to be all right, >> you know. And then we move we move on. down and take Trey Hendricks, whatever. that was, you know. I don't But you have. to be held those doctors got to be held. accountable. They're going to go to them. and double triple check those guys too. and say, "Okay, what exactly did you. see?" Is there that kind of. accountability on their part?

>> I don't know. It's just weird. Whenever. we hear about it, we celebrate it. The. team makes a big thing. I mean, the. Charger social, >> phenomenal work. >> Oh, yeah. >> Hey, welcome back. Good to see you. Thank you for everything. Hey, welcome. back. Actually, scratch out the thank. you to a welcome back. It has been. happening. The Max Crosby thing, bizarre. in the middle of the season with a guy. that's playing also bizarre, con man. Well, and one of the things I always. think about is when we had Brett V on. for the Kansas City Chiefs, the general. manager, and he mentioned how he had. doctors tell him basically like, "Hey,

don't draft Trey Smith because Trey. Smith had a knee injury in college, and. they thought in their heads, or at least. from their examinations, like, hey, this. guy's not going to be able to play for. that very long." And obviously now we. are multiple years, he's won multiple. Super Bowls, he's a multiple time allpro. guard for the Chiefs, one of their. stalwarts on the offensive line. And if. that general manager were to listen to. the couple doctors who told him he. wasn't able to play, they might never. have him or they definitely wouldn't. ever have him. So just like the fact.

that it is subjective is crazy to me. It's very similar to like refereeing. Like how can one reference. and then another ref. And the same thing. happening with medical stuff is crazy to. me. So crazy situation. I bet the. Chargers are kind of happy. Like you. wonder if you trade a guy within the. division and then you as soon as that. goes through you're like [ __ ] I wish we. didn't do that and now he's back. >> Yeah. Yeah, the differing opinion from. doctors is fascinating, especially. whenever it controls uh I don't know. millions and millions of dollars of. moves overnight basically if they want. to do it. Legendary tale is uh coach.

Sabin when he was down there at the. Dolphins. >> He thought for sure he's getting Drew. Brees. This is before Drew Brees goes to. the Saints, he's leaving the Chargers, uh Nick Sabin's down at the Dolphins. Drew Brees is going to be his. quarterback. And I think coach Shabin. would say, "All right, we're in a good. spot. We got a guy." Doctors failed him. uh say can't play quarterback for the. Dolphins. It would not be a good. investment. Coach Sabin allegedly says. who has more the the doctors or the. football who has more say they signed.

Dante Co Pepper who maybe had a little. bit of a knee but it wasn't a throwing. thing and then you know it didn't work. out and now then he becomes head coach. of Alabama. But if the doctor would have. passed Drew Brees like the Saints doctor. passed Drew Brees to get trained over. there I mean Sabin maybe never leaves. the Miami Dolphins. He might just be NFL. guy. Uh, Bill Bich. went five or six. >> Drew Brees told that story in the saving. doc basically saying like. >> while they were on the phone, Drew Brees. said, "Coach, you really think I'm never.

going to play again?" And coach Sabin. was like, "It's not about what I think. It's about what I'm being told from the. doctors." Like that was the conversation. they aired in the dock. So like even. even that aspect of it where even if. coach Sabin thought, "Hey, this guy's. going to be a MVP Super Bowl champion,". he wasn't. He basically wasn't allowed. to do it. >> Yeah. The doctors overrode and to the. >> mega rich owners. Who are you going to. believe? Football coach or you believe. is super doctor that you have hired to.

do the examinations. And the doctors. know they have that. >> Yeah. >> The doctors know they have that. particular power. They know that they. wield that type of stuff. You just got. to hope that I guess the doctors agree. with the trade you're making. >> And where do you think they're where do. you think they're going to error? Sorry. >> Caution. >> Caution. So it's like the people we. always thought we were going to get such. and such back. Oh no. >> Wouldn't that take my. >> guy says I'm fine. No. >> So they're going to air on the side of. caution. So they're going to they're not. they're not going to be the ones.

>> Yeah. But some people are going to air. on the side of more caution it feels. like because. they. >> What's their track record too though? >> Super geniuses. >> How many times have those guys been like. no, you know, can't do this. And then. you see the guys play and it's like. >> well they ain't going to be around long. if that's the case. Well, Drew Brees, for instance, on their mind. >> Yeah. >> Did that doctor did he have to come out. and tell the Dolphins fans? >> So, on the scan I saw, >> I you could see no, there's no. accountability. That doctor probably. never going to have to talk. And coach. Sabin still thinks to that guy or woman,

>> you ruined it. >> You absolutely ruined it down there for. me. But he's the greatest football coach. of all time. Yeah. Uh there are some. things that happen in these doctor. rooms, you know, in these physicals. that you look at AND YOU SAY, "WHAT the. Chuck?". >> Coach, let's look at week nine of the. NFL season, week 10 of college ball. What had you saying? What the Chuck's. going on out here, coach? >> Well, I think we all were saying.

>> Chuck was going on in college football. >> Oh, yeah. >> Start there with Miami and Notre Dame. You know, this has been talked about ad. nauseium. I don't want to beat a dead. horse with this. >> Sounds like that's what we're doing, but. you're going to. >> But we're going to, okay, so we can. educate everybody in the Thunderdome. And all our viewers, I think everybody. knows the process of a catch. There's. three things that you got to, >> right? There's three things that's got. to happen. Okay. So, first one is what?

Control. >> possession. >> plus two. >> Okay. >> One in college. It's one. >> Yep. Yep. >> Okay. So, you got to control plus two. plus time. That's how they used to say. it, right? The time element is to. perform a football. >> move. Yeah. Act. >> or a football move, right? >> Yeah. >> So, in this case, Loftton goes up. Boom. Does he have. control? Do we all agree? >> Yes. >> Does he have more than one down?

>> Yes. He's got He's got two down, right? >> Mhm. >> Uhhuh. >> And. >> another one. Does he have enough time? Does he meet the final requirement? Does. he meet the final requirement? >> Okay. To perform. >> a football act. >> The problem here. >> starts to bob a little bit. >> Okay. So, there's a but. >> super slow. >> Let's run it. Let's run. Bingo. >> Let's run it full speed by run it full. speed.

>> Let's go. >> Just run it full speed. >> Mensah shaking baking gets out of the. pocket. 3124 in the fourth. His offense. touchdown. No. [screaming]. [groaning]. >> And so when you slow this thing down, all right, when you slow it down, it's. easy to dissect this thing and say, "Okay, he never had enough time. He. didn't perform a football act.". >> Okay. >> All right. And we're going to call it. incomplete. >> But he has control. He turns. He brings. the thing down to his waist. All right.

He's got two feet in control. He brings. it to his waist, then the arm comes in. and pops the thing out. This a. completion. [laughter] And I don't know. Can you imagine? We all know. We all. know what Mario was saying, right? >> Oh, yeah. >> What do you think he was saying? STILL. SAYING. >> WHAT the Chuck? >> I don't know if everybody agrees with. you though. I don't. >> That's not what you were saying this. morning. >> What are you talking about? What's wrong. with you? >> What was he saying this morning? You. saying. >> clear incomp completion. >> Yeah, because you know the [laughter].

time element now. >> No, it's the time thing. So when you. slow this thing down to like the time. when milliseconds that we're slowing. this thing down. >> then you're like there's okay I get it. We can dissect this thing and say boom. we're slowing it down. The ball starts. to move right there. Now the thing comes. out and it looks like an incompletion. but in real time that isn't the case. >> Real time it took he took three steps. >> Boom. >> You only need control foot down. >> Boom. >> Enough time to bring it. Is is is this.

a football move? Does that enough time. for a football move? Hey, where'd you. coach before that ball comes out? >> Where'd you coach in college? At Boisey, obviously you coach there. You still. >> Everybody knows I spent seven years down. there. >> in Miami. So, you feel like the boys. maybe got uh screwed a little bit. A. little bamboozled. >> I just think that we have to be really. smart with replay and and how we look at. these things and and uh we want to just. get it right. How come Loftton. >> We want to get it right so the fans. coaches and Mario AREN'T ALL SAYING. >> WHAT THE Chuck me and AJ had the same.

thing. How come Loftton didn't fight for. it? He acted like, "Hey, that was a that. was not a completion.". >> He's a disciplined player. >> And don't you always say. >> he's not He's not a ham. He's very. humble. He's just doing his job, right? >> He's got a touchdown. He's not going to. b it and moan. I got this. >> Don't you always say that, you know, like these refs, they got a tough job. out there. It's hard to do. That guy's. standing right there, you know, and he. he I mean he. >> he said in real time he's not looking in. >> he saw the bobble in real time and and. he said, "Hey, can you guys go to replay. and help me out with this, please?". >> This has been pretty hot in the streets.

>> Yeah. Let's just hope that maybe these. two We'd love to see a rematch, right? For national championship. >> Maybe. Maybe. >> Let's keep them going. Maybe we. >> Georgia Bulldogs going to be tough, I. But it's a it's a great it's a. fascinating conversation to have, >> you know, and it has a lot of people out. there saying, "What the. >> hear Gumpy say? It feels like Gumpy's. given up. Let's go." Oh, great. Let's. stay in the state of Indiana. >> So, here you got 28 seconds left in the. second quarter. End the half. Critical. situation, right? Guys got to be great. Washington's got to be better tonight,

right? They've been. >> not so good in end of half, end of game. situations. So, the clock's running. here. They just got a first down. All. right. And the clock's running. Run it back, Foxy, please. >> So, the clock's running. They're trying. to get lined up. He's pointing. He's. pointing. These two obviously don't get. on the same page. And the best player, all right, the number one target, the. best player on the Dallas Cowboys is. who? >> CD Lamb. >> CD Lamb. And I think he went for a.

crapload, right? Shitload of yards. against. And these two just can't be. Okay. I are we playing two or we playing. quarters? Are you deep? Am I deep? Am I. supposed to have this? You don't think. this had CARLY SAYING. >> WHAT THE CUZ WE GOT A ball game. It's a. 107. It's 107 Pat. >> Yeah, we were there. There's a lot of. Cowboys face. >> I know you were in the lad house. It's. 107. 22 seconds. Just don't let the ball. get What do we used to tell the DBs,

especially in these situations? You're. playing Jordan Love. Get the what? >> F back. Get the No, GTCB. >> Oh, I'm sorry. >> GET THE CHUCK BACK. >> YEAH, YOU'RE RIGHT. INSTEAD OF. >> KEEP it in front of Yes. >> Yeah. GTCB. You're right. Get the Chuck. back. >> Get the Chuck back. Get the Chuck back. >> Hey, that was pretty good. >> This can't happen. >> Yeah, it can't happen. >> This can't happen. >> Yeah. It had everybody in the Loud House. that was wearing Colts colors, uh, which. was not the majority at the HOME GAME. SAYING, "WHAT THE CHUCK?". >> OKAY.

>> It's too easy. >> Too easy. What do we got next? >> I'll tell you what we got. >> Oh, man. You know what? I'm all for. celebrations. I I used to You can attest. to this, right? Debb talks about all the. time in team meetings. I'd devote. >> five, six, seven minutes sometimes, right? We'd have a little Hey, have a. plan. Ty, you're going to get in the end. zone, >> right? This weekend, you're going to get. in the end zone. Have a plan. Don't get. in there and not have a plan. Drop the. ball at your first touchdown. You lose. the fir your first touchdowns. Have a. plan. Get a dance ready. I don't give a. [ __ ] Cory, we're going to have fun.

>> I had a magic trick I brought with me. Yeah. Yeah. I was Yeah, I was going to. do it all. Yeah. Game zero, fumbled the. ball. I think I was down. But you. >> as long as it doesn't cost us, we're. good. >> and cost your team and doesn't get us 15. 15 60 yard extra point. Yeah, I was. probably going to get it for that that. thing, but I had never been there. before. So, we're going to have to do. that on Christmas Eve. But you were a. very big celebrate. You're not the only. one. Bill Bichc, one of the most. hard-nosed coaches uh in the history, accountability, do your job. He would. show film of teams celebrating and.

saying, "Look what this is doing to this. other team. Look what you guys look like. versus what they look like." It is a. strategy to be happy for each other. whenever something good happens. And you. were a big big big proponent of that as. well, Chuck. >> Love that. >> Yeah. Love that. >> So, hey, so JT fumbles, >> right? >> Dallas gets on that thing. >> They pick it up. All right. They get. possession. He gets tagged down. But. what does everybody do? They go where? Come on. Let's go. Let's go. We go in.

the end zone. Let's go. Right. >> So, two players were inactive, right? Overshon. >> Oversh [laughter]. and and and Joey Porter, right? >> And George. >> Joey's smart enough, right? He got the. same gear on. Joey does. But he's over. there on the sideline. Cuz you're not. allowed Pat in any league, right? At any. level to run your ass on the field. without gear. Look at him with shades. like. [laughter and clears throat] we gonna. get this thing. Uhhuh. And he's looking.

back. Look at him right there. Yeah. Yeah. Got his [ __ ] Yeah. [laughter]. >> Uhhuh. Uh-huh. >> Yeah. He got caught up in a moment. though. That's a big play. >> Oh, he got caught up in the moment. And. guess what happened? >> What's that? >> The flag came out. >> Oh no. >> Right. Flag comes out. Let's mark off 15. yards unsportsmanlike. The beauty of it. was the official said somebody in a blue. sweatsuit with a with a [laughter] with. a with a hat on and shades came on the. field and he's not supposed to be out. here. >> and it had Shotty I ASSUME SAYING.

>> WHAT THE Chuck. >> I will say though it was hard not to get. caught up in the vibes if you're a. Cowboys fan or player in the lighthouse. cuz they were a majority of the place. and Overshon seen this before. He's seen. this. >> You know as head coaches we show all the. bad stuff, right? Hey look, this cost. this team 15 yards. Let's not do this. Look at this clown. Who is Oh, this is. Oh, this is Vern Hardgraves Jr. You know. who else coached at University of Miami. Miami back in the day with with coach. Pagano? Who's that? >> Vern Hargrave senior. Wow. [laughter].

>> So, I knew this kid when he was this big. >> just a young just a young and so he's. obviously inactive. >> and something good happens for the. Bengals and here he comes. >> Come on. You know shotty, you know. shotty and them said when he got in the. meeting and said hey over didn't I show. you this thing. >> AND THEN HE SAID. >> WHAT THE. >> I DO REMEMBER THAT IN THE SUPER BOWL. That was such a good conversation. He. was so excited. It was for a world title. in his slides on the sideline. First of. all, it's Super Bowl gangster move. I.

appreciate that he did that. Coming onto. the field to celebrate with the lads. even better. And a towel to wave. attention to yourself, you know, like, "Hey, look at me. Look at me. I'm in. this thing. We're in a Super Bowl.". Moves to the front of the crowd. Uh-huh. >> You know, just get a good shot cuz he. was super lit and that was a celebratory. moment for sure for the. >> year was this. >> 2021. That's a Jesse Bates interception. >> Jesse Bates still doing it. >> So, the Gritty was alive and well back. >> Yeah. Okay. >> National Championship. >> Yeah. The LSU team. LSU. LSU.

>> LSU. >> LSU. LSU. >> That's right. Okay. So, we know not to. go on the field anymore. Don't worry if. you do, all you'll HEAR IS WHAT THE. >> commanders tonight. >> Okay, so we got the Commanders tonight. We know they struggled end of game, end. of half situations, right? The first. 2027 tie, week five, Giants in. Washington, right? Had the tobacco at. the end of the game. >> It was a debacle. >> It was a debacle. It had a lot of those. guys SAYING IN THAT ONE, [laughter]. >> WHAT THE quite.

>> Let's get this thing fixed. So, we got 8. seconds. Washington has no timeouts, right? Where does this ball have to go? >> Uh, endzone. end zone. >> So he's and I guess he's he's going to. get it to his playmaker. They've got. some receivers down, but they do have. digs. >> These guys are playing mutual. You know. what mutrol is? Yeah. >> Threeman rush, five underneath man, three deep. >> Okay. >> Right. But usually on on 2D, five under. man, you play inside leverage. >> Okay. Yeah. Of course. >> This one you play outside leverage to. protect what? Because you got no time.

>> The sidelines. >> Okay. you. So, they're playing m patrol. and we don't get the ball like he thinks. he's going to catch it and not get. tackled and get a touchdown. All right. So, that's incomplete. Now, we got 3. seconds. >> No timeouts. >> No timeouts. >> Down seven. >> Down seven. And you're at what yard. line? >> 32. >> The plus 32 yard. Where do most of these. Hail Marys come from? You're at the your. own 50, your own 45 yard line, right? >> Yeah. >> We're at the.

>> 32. Yeah. That's a good play called. breaks the tackle. He's going to score, Chuck. >> So we I And I don't know if it was a. Puerto Rico. >> I don't know if it's a miscommunication. I don't know. You know, they interviewed. Jaden JD after the game and you know, him and Blau trying to get on the same. page with all this stuff. >> You know, rugby play. Are you Are we. running a rugby play? >> What are they doing. >> on this? >> Does David Blah know how much time's. left? >> I don't think they. >> Does David Bla know that it's a. seven-point game? Does Jaden Daniels.

know they have no timeouts left? >> Was he running down to spike that or get. the pitch? >> No, I guarantee you that they. communicated and they talked. I don't. know what happens. >> Maybe they saw maybe they saw everybody. at the line of scrimmage. They didn't. think they were going to have time to. get the thing down the field. >> Maybe. >> But get yourself lined up in a trip wide. formation, right? >> Oh, actually, he kind of takes off after. he throws it. I think he was maybe. thinking, hey, >> spiking it. >> No, I think [laughter] he might have. been thinking, hey, you know, we might. do a little hook and ladder. Yeah, I. mean and he trails him down there and. then he gets in front of him where he.

can't get lateral. He kind of goes into. a no man's zone. But was he sprinting to. spike at first or do you think he was. getting in trail position for that rock. trail position? >> I think it was I think it was like, okay, I just threw it to Okonquo. >> cuz the clock's out, >> right? And we have no time left and. nobody got the play call but me and this. guy and I don't have anybody to flip. this thing to that run the rugby play. Seriously. And now he's going to hustle. down there and try to write this thing. >> There's another there's another slant. This isn't like a.

>> This can't I mean. >> No, this is terrible. >> This is real. THIS MAKES YOU GO, "WHAT. THE. >> AND IS HE SHOWING this for our picks for. later?" Because you watch something like. this, it's going to be hard, especially. with what we've already seen this. season. >> This is the only We've talked about a. lot of great stuff, right? And Dan. Quinn, to his credit, he just keeps. diving on the sword after sword after. sword [laughter]. after sword. Like the guy's still. bleeding, >> taking care of his people. Cuz that's. the man that he is. That's the type of. coach that he is. >> Yeah, he fired every single assistant.

coach this off season. Who did? >> So it kind of is on him when. >> you see we don't know that. >> Yeah, I do though. He didn't they move. on from OC and DC? >> Well, sometimes these decisions come. from somewhere else. Oh, okay. So, it wasn't Dan saying, "We got. to change everything.". >> You don't know. Nobody knows. >> Okay. Got it. But it is Oh, and New DC. in there. So, Dan Quinn is taking the. fall for his lads, which I respect and. appreciate, but there's been some. decisions here at the end of these games. that MAKE YOU GO,

>> "WHAT THE CHUCK?". >> GOOD WORK, CHUCK. >> COME ON. UNBELIEVABLE, BABY, CHARLIE. Maybe close. >> Thank you, Charlie. Regardless, >> did they fire your brother from. Washington? Did that happen? There's two microphones. I got two. phones. One for a Pagano. >> One for my brother. >> One for my bro. >> Johnny's still there. >> Oh, nice. >> Wow. I didn't know that. They got a. Pagano in the building. >> Johnny be good. >> That's why he was talking so good about. the turnover. Ah, >> isn't he responsible for offensive time.

management or. >> John? We call him John growing up. [laughter] Go ahead. John. [laughter]. regard. >> uh put him in a little bit of a spot. there. Yeah, Januch tonight. We'll see. if his brother Shakuch. >> he coaches the edges away and. >> Oh, they're crushing. Yeah, >> they're doing a great job. A lot of. turnovers, too. I mean, that's good. >> Donte is a good coach. A new DC that you. mentioned.

>> Yeah, like him. >> Aggressive. He's a beeflow. We talked. about him, right from that tree. >> Yeah. Yeah. So, he's going to bring a. lot pressure him. >> Uh, let's talk about be a little bit. Fernando Mendoza is now the starting. quarterback because Kirk Cousins goes. back to Minnesota. Fernando Mendoza. opened up his press conference thanking. Kirk and his family for taking him in, basically adopting him for his entire. time there. That worked out perfectly, doesn't it? And with everything that. Fernando is saying about what he learned. about, you know, uh, watching Kirk. obviously getting to experience what it.

is in an NFL building. They have some. wins, they have some losses. He's had. some adversity. He's now got a chance to. see how everybody battles through. I'm. excited for Fernando to get started, AJ. Like legitimately pumped for tough. start. Tough. >> tough tough start with the defenses. he'll be playing. But I guess drop his. ass in a deep end and see how it goes. Feels like he might be prepared to swim. though with the way he's been talking. and what we know of him. >> Yeah, it feels like it's time, doesn't. it? I mean, Fernando, we know he's got. in there spot duty here and there and. played all right. I think it's time to.

turn the team over to him. And I I don't. know if anyone would have predicted this. is how you it would have played out like. if you go back to this past offseason or. training camp, but man, it does seem to. be like a perfect little thing for. everybody involved. You know, Fernando. gets to sit behind Kirk, learn kind of. the ways, and he still gets to go in. there and get a chance to, I guess, you. know, find a way possibly to get into. the playoffs with this Raiders team if. he can go on a run. >> Seattle, Denver, Cleveland, then. Chargers, Denver, Tennessee, Arizona, Kansas City. And obviously, you would. want a better start other than Seattle's. defense and then Denver's defense. And.

let's go ahead and give you Cleveland's. defense right afterwards at Cleveland, which is a different place than whenever. Cleveland's on the road. But is there. ever going to be a perfect position in. the NFL to drop somebody into? Every. team is going to have at least somewhat. of a good defense. And if they don't. have an elite defense this week, next. week you're going to be running into. one. So Fernando gets a shot here to. potentially win offensive rookie of the. year as he is a quarterback of a team. that might make it into the playoffs if. they're able to get hot and win some. very difficult games. And the Raiders.

get a third round pick. They also only. had to spend like 650,000. This feels. like a perfect situation for all. parties. Would you want Kirk behind. Fernando though as Fernando gets started. just in case all hell breaks loose? Coach, >> I mean that would be that would be. great. But think about when Andrew came. in 2012. Think about the team that you. were on, Pat. Think about all the guys. that blow up after the 2011 season. Rookie head coach, rookie GM, right? Rookie quarterback, the roster. Like. everybody was gone, right? Remember that.

first team meeting? So Andrew comes in, we're like, okay, do we need to sit him. down? You you've talked at Nauseium. about, God, I wish Payton would still be. here. Wish he had a chance to sit behind. him. And I bring this up just because I. think there's a lot of similarities. between like Andrew was a really good. quarterback. I mean, he could have been. probably a Hall of Famer, right? Fernando's big. He's got the metrics, right? He's got size. He's got strength. He's got arm talent. He's got a big ass. brain is what every Right.

>> Mhm. >> So, he's going to be able to figure it. out. He's going to be able to physically. handle some of the punishment that. comes, some sack, whatever, some hits. just like Andrew did. and he and he's he. can process. He's learned from Kirk for. that amount of time on on how to deal. with things. They'll be smart with him. They're going to hand the ball off. He'll get the ball out of his hand. He's. going to be able to he's athletic. enough, which we saw in the championship. game or whatever game that was triple. jumping in like Andrew did against. Kansas City. So, he's got some. similarities there. So,

>> hey, when do you play like Mahomes had. the luxury right behind Alex Smith for. three years or whatever it was? >> One year. 16 games. >> was it one year? Yeah, he played the. last game. I think. >> three Jordan Love. >> I think it was. Yeah, Jordan Love sat. behind Aaron for three years. >> Aaron sat behind Brett for multiple. years. Tom sat behind uh Drew Bledsoe. for a bit. So there is a lot of those. stories. Yes. >> Andrew Luck getting dropped into the. fire immediately. And I think what you. were going to say is what what I've. referenced is these guys who are really. smart,

have a lot of expectations of themsel. are very good at football, like to. learn. Okay? He like to be a sponge. He. like to do it all. I think if Andrew. could have watched Pton Manning be a. quarterback in the building, not just on. the field because vastly different. styles. Andrew was a freak athlete on. the ground, could make all the throws as. well, just different players. But if he. could have watched Pton Manning manage. the building and manage his room and. manage the locker room and manage. everything, I think that would have been. very beneficial to Andrew learning that. immediately as opposed to Andrew having. to learn that through his own.

experiences, which takes a couple of. years. I am a huge proponent of getting. to watch somebody who's really good at. what they do and trying to learn from it. in real time. I got to do it with. Vinnie. Even though it's a different. position, I was still expected to. perform. But I do believe that if Andrew. had that opportunity, and this is not a. knock on Andrew, it's not on. And you. guys had to make a decision. The Colts. had to make a decision, whatever the. case is. But if he could have watched. Payton for one year, just be like, I. don't like that. I don't like that. I. like that. We're going to do more of. this. This is the expectation. I'm going. to do this meeting on this time. We're. going to do this on this time. That just.

I think that is a um what's that in. Sonic where they hop on the fast moving. escalator. >> like a uh speed burst like a a boost. that would be a boost I think in. development and I think Fernando. potentially got that from Kirk which I. think is what you're alluding to. >> Yeah. The the whole part about being a. pro, how to be a pro on the dayto-day. I. think the the biggest point you brought. up is like accountability and. leadership. Like we saw Andrew grow into. that, right? cuz he's humble and he. wasn't going to say anything until he. earned everybody's strike. He didn't.

care if he was the number one player. picked in that draft. He had to go he. was going to go prove it before he was. going to say anything. And I think. that's where we have to grow leaders. We. try to get more out of him that way. And. I think he grew into that role in the. locker room where he'd hold guys. accountable. You remember when we went. over overseas to play and we got beat by. Jacksonville after that game? like he. went he finally felt like, "Okay, I've. done enough. I've earned enough stripes. to be able to say what I'm about to say. and then, hey, look, we got to get on. top of our stuff." Boom, boom, boom,

boom, boom. Right. >> Yeah, it was great. It was great to. watch that happen kind of have that. breakthrough. Uh, and it's his respect. for football is inevitably why he was a. little bit different whenever he was. younger is cuz like I haven't earned. anything. Got Adam Venitary here. This. guy was kicking for the Amsterdam. Admirals whenever I was just a child. He. should be the one. We got uh Dwight. Freeny was still there. Robert Matt, like the guys that were there, I think. he held in such high regard. I should. not be the one speaking. But if you. would have watched Payton, I think it. would have been quick to know you're. speaking everywhere, brother. What we're.

eating matters. We'll see you tomorrow. from Boyisey. Goodbye. Okay, great. scent. That was one of our worst of all. time. But that is like actually. >> and I don't know if Andrew would have. immediately just been exactly like. Payton because I think they're very. different personalities. But I think him. getting a chance to like see what's. allowed, like what a quarterback is. allowed to do and what is expected of a. quarterback. Like, hey, like if you. don't like the food or the boys don't. like the food that we're eating, you go. change that [ __ ] If the boys if you. don't like the way our schedule is, if. you think the schedule would behoove the.

players yourself differently, you have a. say. You're the [ __ ] starting. quarterback of this team, bro. We're. going to go how you go. If you like a. player more than you like another player. at a certain position, like if a guy is. your roommate and we are looking for. that particular position and he's on the. team, like say it, hey, I would like him. out there. I am comfortable with that. guy. As opposed to waiting for somebody. else to make that decision, then when. that person gets on the field, they have. 10 receptions on third down. It's always. like, hey, you could have [ __ ] said. this immediately. Offensive line, you.

don't like this guy, you like this guy, you say it. Like these are things that I. think he didn't want to do to your point. cuz he felt like it was disrespectful. like I'm a quarterback here. I'm just. quarterback and it's like no bro you're. a seat. >> It all runs through you. It all runs. through the quarterback. We know that. like a great head coach wants his. quarterback to take control of the team. And I think a great quarterbacks that. hold everybody accountable like they. keep like you don't want to let them. down. They're like a a f not a father. figure, but they're like someone where, hey, I need to I I don't want I don't. want our quarterback walking through our. walkthrough on defense and seeing that.

we're jacking around or we're not we're. not focused or we're not ready. Like you. look at them almost like another coach. and you I think that's what the best. teams they they're run through a. quarterback like that. >> I think we hold now granted I was very. lucky that I got to see Payton. I think. Payton was probably the most in the. history of quarterbacks in the NFL in. that particular world because that's his. natural. >> um personality I think is to be a leader. and to be somebody that is attention. attentive to detail and he'll send a. thousand emails now in his current life. I mean that is like who he is as a.

person. So we're not expecting everybody. to be like the sheriff was but that. quarterback position you have to be. you're the CEO of the locker room, you're the CEO of the team. How you go. we go. And uh it's very hard to not be a. super alpha. you know. leader I guess would be the style and. have success at that particular role in. this particular sport from our our. perspective. >> Type a sorry like type a detail oriented. every single thing matters but also it's. very tough because you got to you got to.

prove it on the field because if you. don't if you don't play well on the. field guys are not going to listen to. any of that when it comes to like the. day-to-day stuff. But you have to also. you got to be that you got to be in. charge and be hold everybody accountable. because you hold yourself to such a high. standard. But you got to be one of the. guys too. Like it's a fine mixture. It's. really tough to do. >> Yeah. You got to be able to politic. You. got to be able to lobby. You got to be. able to uh socialize. >> You got to be real. You got to be real. and authentic, too. Sure. >> You got to social got to be authentic. You got to be able to lead. You got to. be able to take it on the shins. You got. to be able to take a stand. It's like.

that's why we say it's the hardest. And. then you got to perform. >> Yeah. You got to be good, too. >> Then you got to be the hardest part. about [laughter] it. Yeah. The hardest. part about it. don't want to be in that. leadership role because they have to be. the first in. They have to be the last. out. They have to outwork everybody. because you're not going to listen to. AJ's. You're not going to listen to. anybody that's not putting in the work. and doesn't do it on the football field. They're going to it's going to fall on. deaf ear. What? Shut up. >> You want to break down this thing? Break. down this h. And they start talking and. the more they talk, the worse it gets. It's Oh, Jesus Christ. >> Yeah. That's why whenever we point out.

some things that quarterbacks are doing. on this particular show, we might view. it from a little different perspective. than maybe everybody else who just views. talent as the only thing that matters. because at that position, this isn't a. video game. It's a human business. And. uh you got to be the best human we got. at that particular role. Which is why. >> everything Kirk Cousins is saying, man, this is a movie. >> Hey, this is this has very. >> I love that video. I love that two and a. half, three minutes of him going back to.

his old squad. It's awesome, man. >> And. >> hey, we miss you, man. We love you, dude. Everybody from the quarterback to. the trainer, >> everybody. Everybody. >> That tells everything, >> I think. So, >> 1,000%. >> I mean, coach obviously KOC getting into. it. But, uh, trainer, doctors, assistant. coaches, long snapper, corner, uh, wide. receiver, running back, the quarterback. currently. Hey, man, they [ __ ] love. you here. everything I do. They're just. comparing me to you the whole time. DT. tackle obviously there. >> the competitor that he is, the player he.

is, the performance, the stuff he did on. the field, but probably he's beloved. throughout the building because how he. treated everybody and how he connected. with everybody and how he respected. everybody and respected the game. >> The only thing I don't like is that. Tuesday thing where he. >> What was it? >> Quarterback. I didn't like that he just. takes it off. >> He takes the day off. He just takes day. completely off. Phone off. Censor's on. head. We that's where we get the grandma. uh blankets. >> down in the basement. We're doing the. thing and the thing. And I think what he.

said was just like I I'm not going in. the building. But the way I heard it was. because he said I'm taking the whole day. off. I I just I don't think he had to. tell anybody that. I don't think I. should know that. >> Sure. >> Definitely got to do that. >> Did it affect his play? >> That's quarterback. >> I mean, you can just kind of hold it. over his head, which you hold over. everybody's head, I guess, but. >> come back to it. >> Yeah. >> Mhm. one bad game. >> That's what I'm saying. Like we I don't. think we should have been told that. I I. don't think that because it did get kind. of held against him anytime he didn't. have success. On that note,

>> feels like everywhere he goes, people. love him. Fernando. >> talked about how uncomfortable that. situation could have been, but instead. it was the complete opposite. And now. Kevin O'Connell. >> has to prove he can still call plays. >> That's true, >> right? Yeah. >> Isn't that kind of what? Same guy, yet. same quarterback that you had a lot of. success with. Better team now. There's a. lot of questions about Kevin Okonnell. and the Minnesota Vikings offense as a. whole, not just Carson Wentz, which was. obviously not great. The record and the. the stats and the amount of touchdowns.

and the points scored for a team that. has good a record as they have at this. stage, it's like unbelievably woeful. Like if you were to tell the NFL stats. department what's happening or going. into the season what it would be for a. Kevin Oconor le offense everybody on. earth would be very surprised and. shocked and say that's not actually. possible with how in inept the offense. has been with how good the defense has. been. Now they have a chance to really. go for it with Kirk Cousins. And are we. talking Kirk Cousins win a Super Bowl? >> Oh that'd be awesome. >> That would be awesome for Kirk Cousins.

to be able to do that and at least the. NFC North would be represented. >> Yeah. I mean we'll see. You know, the. Vikings have never won a Super Bowl, but. that would be a storybook run. But I. think KC like if you know, and this. obviously helps quite a bit, like if. they don't make the playoffs or if this. thing kind of nose dives a little bit, like he's going to get fired. He like. this is kind of a hey, we've given you. all these opportunities and for the. longest time everyone kind of just made. all these excuses for you because you. have been good. But like there are no. excuses anymore, you know, with how good.

that defense is. like they need to turn. things back on right now. Otherwise, I. think his name is going to start getting. floated around with his seat getting. very, very hot. >> Yeah, I think so, too. >> You got a GM and head coach that are on. different timelines, too, cuz they got a. brand new one in there, right? >> Yeah. Nolan Teasley. >> All right, let's get to a break. Hey, we. got some real [ __ ] popping around this. NFL. >> Yeah, we do. >> There's some shite, too, popping off. There is a couple really good games this. weekend and a couple of very shitty.

games. >> Is there one? >> Well, last last week there was no games. under three and a half point spread. Uh. this week there's five under three and a. half and there's and there's three at. three and a half. So. >> that tells you good games coming. >> good games. Houston Texans Cleveland. Browns. That's going to be a grimy one. It's. >> a big one. >> CJ Stout still balling. That's a huge. one for the lurking. >> conversation down there in the AFC. Jacksonville Jaguars redhot traveling uh. take on the Titans AFC South clash.

>> That's a bad one. >> Both. >> That's one of the bad ones. >> That's a bad one. >> Let's get to a break. Chargers Ravens. coming up on Monday night. >> That's a real bad one. >> Monday Night Football. >> Are you guys still doing Countdown or. No? >> Yep. 6 o'clock Eastern Monday Night. Countdown starts. Excited to get out. there. >> from Okay. >> From Baltimore. >> From the. >> No field pass though. >> No field pass. No field pass. I think. we're a couple weeks out from that. We. got to continue to do that good better. >> Rushed it. >> No, they're saying nobody's watching it.

>> We are up though. We could use a big. percentage up thing. >> There you go. >> There we go. >> We got We got to do that better though. We got to get that better figured out. >> Tony Robo was cool. >> He was a man. >> Randy's foot. Okay. >> What's his deal? >> Bat wheel. >> Just bump wheel. >> Just insane. >> It's awesome. >> The sock and he's got a he's got like a. 16, right? That foot went forever. 16. well. >> Yeah. Yeah. You're right. You're right. You're right. If this goes in, it'll. only continue to get better.

>> Okay. >> I really want. >> Boom. >> All right. So, I guess we'll just do. them. [laughter]. All right. Be a friend. Tell a friend. something nice. Might change your life. Take five. >> Yeah. If he throws you a curveball, you're in trouble. >> That breaking ball. Good luck. It's It's. pretty nasty. >> Think he's going to make contact? >> No. [laughter]. >> If I were you, I would just start. swinging as you listen.

>> Do you think I make contact? >> I can barely make contact again. [laughter]. >> Fight a bingo 25 grand. Extra base hit. 15,000. If you [music] walk me, $10,500. donation. Strike out 10,000. A hit is. just $10,000. [music] Ball contact, $5,000 donation. Hit by pitch, that's an. extra 5,000. Strike is a,000 obviously. And then every ball will be a donation. [music] by the pitcher as well. Ski said.

that if he was pitching against me, throw one behind me. >> I've had a lot of votes [music] to get. you in the ribs. A lot of [laughter]. >> You can get in there and look at one if. you want. Get used to it. >> Is this the one you're going to put in. my ribs? >> Nope. You're not. Don't swing in this. one. Don't swing. >> All right. I won't. >> Okay. Okay. Okay. I thought I was going to burn my feet. >> Rookie of the year. Get a little closer. [laughter].

>> Just got a cramp in my left chest. >> All right. No balls, no strikes. >> Yeah. Okay. What the [ __ ] was that? What the [ __ ] was that? >> I like that you let it go though. >> Yeah, first one.

>> Yeah, I like it. >> Oh, foul tip. >> Foul tip. Oh, where'd you go? >> Where'd you go?

>> What was that? >> That was purple. >> That was a strike. Oh, it's right there. >> Hey, thank you for your donation. >> Kershaw's challenge is forever grateful. >> So, what was that? You just threw fast. >> Fast, fast, curve. >> Oh, where'd you go?

>> Hey, what else do you have? >> I have a slider. >> [ __ ]. >> This is guy number two. >> I have bad guy number two. >> Yeah, I got a different attitude. This. guy. >> Okay. I don't like what you're [music] doing. with the strike zone.

>> You're on it. Oh, fell off.

Foul ball. You got me though there, right? >> Yeah. >> Contact. Okay. >> Yeah. I will put on my Twitter bio. [laughter]. Made contact. What's your drone? This will be his curb, right? That's all I got right there. >> Yeah, I saw it.

>> Hey, fast ball away. All right. >> Over here, >> maybe. I mean, you never know, but I'm. going to try. Fast ball away.

>> [screaming]. >> I think I got it. I think I got it. I. think I got it. >> That was good. Did that hurt? >> Yeah. >> Thank you, dude. >> Well, count that as a single. Infield.

single. >> Hey, I got a ghost runner there. He's. fast. Overthrow first. >> He's on second. >> Okay. I got it.

>> Hey, good work, dude. That was awesome. >> I knew the curve was coming right there. >> You did? >> Yeah. >> How'd you know? Uh, just because I. thought cuz I made contact. >> Oh, yeah. You're reading my mind. >> All right, let's [ __ ] make a move. Yeah, >> you got it. >> You told me fast ball away. >> Yeah, I cut in a little. You got J, but. contact.

>> Like I was aiming away through a two. seamer and it's supposed to kind of run, but it kind of ran the other way. >> I didn't think about the punch out. [music] pitch. Like I was sitting there. I'm like, he's he's up 02. >> You're definitely going to hit me with. something. Oh, where'd you go? Good. Catcher. Got you there. >> I think I got on base. >> That's an infield single. You know it. You had You had enough though. >> Did you see his face? He said, "I don't. know. >> I don't know about. >> that's real." He said, "Mookie's good.

short stop from what I remember. I'll. give you one hit. Give you one hit. One. foul ball and then uh I did catch. [music] Does that count? Does that count. your foul ball?". >> The catch definitely counts as a twofer. there. >> Okay. There's a few swing and misses. >> A lot of swinging misses. >> So, yeah. Hey, you just you just let me. out. >> We appreciate you being a great. American. Good luck. >> Thank you. [laughter]. >> Hey, no, there's no way I'm going to be. able to throw enough strikes. >> All right. >> Thank [laughter] you, dude. >> You're the best. >> That was great, man. [snorts].

When I was a kid, I'd get this feeling. I called it white buzz.

[screaming]. [groaning]. and everything will go white. It's like I'm not me in that moment. >> That white buzz would pour in my brain. like a river of [ __ ] fire. I'd get the same feeling when I started. playing football.

>> It's loud. Everything goes away. >> Is that what insane is? Hold on tight. Hold on tight. You're too. slow.

We'll fire at the breeze that blows. these [music] stars through [singing]. our mind. >> [music]. >> Hooray! >> This is war. This is real war. [music].

It's electrifying here in Happy Valley. We're lucky to be here. And uh you know. the way you win this is you have uh be. the first 300 people here and you get a. ticket and then we randomly select a. ticket and that person gets an. opportunity to kick a 33 yard field goal. for an undetermined amount of money. This week we had our man William, right? What's your name? >> William. Yes, sir. >> You won the raffle and you said I don't. want to kick because I suck at kicking. Is that accurate? more or less.

>> What is your uh major here? >> I'm a finance major. >> Okay. So, money decision was I suck at. this. Let me try to find somebody who's. good at this. How did you land on my man. here? And uh what are your hopes in him? >> Well, I was looking around. I saw my. man. He said he played soccer and I was. like, this is my guy right here, my guy. Carson. I have faith in him, so I know. he's going to get it done. >> All right. You're Carson, right? You. played high school soccer. Is that. accurate? >> I did play high school soccer. >> Where are you from? >> I'm from Hannover, Pennsylvania. Okay. You're a Pennsylvania guy. Have you ever. kicked a ball before?

>> Other than not football, soccer. >> Okay. Well, hope hopefully you're. terrible at this. It's $100,000. Uh are. you guys splitting that 50/50? >> Yes, sir. >> Okay. Uh so we'll make it uh $300,000. $150,000 for both of you. >> Okay. You only get one kick though. You've game the ticket game, which I. appreciate and respect. It's up to. $300,000. 150 for both of you. Only one kick. though, Herby. We're not doing anything. I don't care how many stators chant for.

another kick. [cheering]. Only one. Herby played high school. soccer. He's a good player. >> We got a problem here. >> That's right. It's a white out. It could. be a special day. YOU COULD HELP OUT. YOUR GUY WILLIAM and winning $150,000. >> One kick. 300,000. two. >> [cheering].

[cheering]. [cheering]. >> You're a good man. >> This minute, >> Carson. Congratulations. You pushed. that, >> WILLIAM. WAY TO GO. IT HAS BEEN AN. EXPENSIVE YEAR OUT HERE AT THE field. goal kick. Carson, I'm proud of you, BUDDY. 300, 150 to you. 150 TO YOU. GOOD.

finance decisions were made in the FIRST. TOP SIX WHITE OUT HAS A MAGICAL VIBE AND. AN EXPENSIVE ONE. We are. >> WE ARE. WE are. >> Thank you. [laughter]. >> Goodbye. Hey, let's go. >> This show sticks and the fact that you. listen, we are very, very thankful for. >> McAfee on the line with a gorgeous.

assist. >> The alltime leading tackler for the. Green Bay Packers, you. stop. Damn it. >> Your friend, tell a friend something. nice could change their life. sport. >> Hello, beautiful people and welcome back. to our humble boat. The draft kings. thunderdome on this NFL [music] week 10. kickoff Thursday, November 12th, 2026. Hour three of the program begins now.

>> I like that. That's AJ Hawk getting off. the ball quick. The toxic table is here. at Boston Connor and at Tai Schmidt. One. half of the hammer Cowboys AP Tone is. here and our coach 37 years in football, 19 in the NFL, 18 in college. Coach. Pagano is here. [singing]. >> Coach, can't wait to get out to Boisey. with you here as college game day is. live 9:00 a.m. Eastern from what we. believe is about to be a rather epic. crowd. Uh let's look at tonight's. numbers, shall we? Uh Tone, what should.

we be expecting? What's the public? What's uh over like what should we. expect gambling wise as we look ahead to. week 10 kicking off? Yeah, as you see up. there right now, the uh spread is 2 and. a half. The Giants are favored. Um we. are coming off a week when the favorites. were 14 and one. So we can see if that. continues this week. Now, as I mentioned. before the break, the 2 and 1/2 is the. smallest spread that we have seen in the. last 15 games going back to that. So. it's closer than anything that we saw. last week. The total of 40 and a half. with the weather that we have uh talked.

about a bit. Um, I'm seeing on my. weather app, the Weather Channel app, brought to you by Jim Canori. Uh, around. 60 65. That's [ __ ] That's That's. absolute [ __ ] [ __ ]. >> How'd that do last week for us? >> Uh, it was accurate at the time and then. at game time it was not accurate. >> Yeah, but we were asking for game time. >> Yeah, I don't tell you. Weather changes. That's just WHAT IT DOES. >> [ __ ] THAT, MAN. You screwed us. You. screwed us all. >> It wasn't Tone. >> Thank you for that. >> I'm talking to Canori. >> Don't talk to him. by way of tone digs.

[laughter]. >> Uh, >> okay. >> So, when you look at that, yeah, make. sure you factor that in. >> [ __ ] you, Jim. >> You are I think you are too. >> The [ __ ] balls on you. Yeah, >> that's what Jim said. >> Yeah, right. [laughter] Can't Oh, that's. what he said. Okay. >> Do we have his number? Can we call him? I would like to get to the bottom of how. he was so wrong last week. >> I don't We have the producers's number. I don't know if we have his number ever. >> And I don't think he's ever just. answered a cold FaceTime from us. There's always like a full setup that. has to happen. He's out there working.

>> Did we ask the producer what he thinks? And the producer's like, "Yeah, [ __ ]. It's not going to rain at all.". >> No, we went to his website. Okay. >> Yeah, we went to a website. This is Jim. Canour normally accurate. Last week, >> this is I'm not just on some free app. Okay. I pay premium dollar for. >> It's on only fans for Jim Canour. >> Exactly. >> Call it only can tours. >> He gives me the weather and his. underwear. It's awesome. >> Yeah. It's unbelievable. He comes. sliding out. Show me the money. >> Yeah. >> Boom. This is what the weather's going. to be. Never been more wrong in in the.

history of the NFL. >> And it really did affect us. >> Yeah. >> In our picks, but. >> tonight. pretty clear. >> Yeah. Getting fooled tonight. >> It's coming down. Jeremy Fowler's got. some video here. Uh who's ready for some. Thursday night football? It's messy and. Metife. Maybe a Metife mishap tonight. with the amount of turnovers that could. potentially take place. Expect plenty of. Cam Scataboo. We hope his ham is good. >> We hope his ham is good. We would just. like him to get in the end zone. AJ, how. do you feel about our team ride this.

evening of Cam Scaboo plus odds to get. in the engine? That's not boosted. That's just in general plus 120. How do. you feel about it? Because we put you on. the graphic and said you like it. >> I absolutely love it. Are you kidding. me? Especially with these conditions. now. I wish this was a game that was. played on grass, so we'd get like a. muddy with a muddy game with puddles all. over the place. Now it's field turf, so. it's a little different. But yeah, of. course, I I like Cam Scataboo to score. at least one touchdown, especially when. you have some elements like he's going. to be dealing with. You like two. >> I like that. At least one. You could get. him for two plus touchdowns on.

DraftKings, the best sports book on. earth. If you are of age, DraftKings is. available coast to coast. You can either. trade or bet. Uh please agree to be uh. responsible on there and not an [ __ ]. because we cannot have you ruin it with. uh you thinking you're going to get rich. off of sports gambling or sports. trading. This is just to add a little. bit more intrigue. Like you're going to. a gas station and you get a scratch off. on the way out. like you by like that is. what this is. Let's just dabble a little. bit. Let's do it responsibly if you're.

able. We need Cam in the paint tonight. >> And I love Scott Buddha score and this. is part of not part of my secret plan, but this is just something to consider. tonight. It happens every year and. typically it's on Thursday where it ends. up being. >> 12 to9. So just throwing this out there. No touchdown. >> No touchdown score is plus 7,000. Not. again. It's the longest odds. There's. there's nobody you could bet on with. longer odds. And like I said to start, I. love Scataboo. I have him in multiple.

bets. But just because of the sprinkle, let's say it's the third quarter and. nothing's happened yet. And you're just. so pissed that you sat through this. whole thing waiting for a touchdown. You. sprinkle on no touchdown. You know what. you're thinking all of a sudden? >> Oh my god, plus 7,000. >> Holy [ __ ] nobody score. [laughter] I. love Cam Scabud to score. However, at. plus7,000 is just something to a dollar. You put a dollar. >> responsibly. >> Exact. That's what I mean. You put a. buck on it, you get 70 bucks all of a. sudden in that poopy game. I I got 70.

bucks. >> Yeah. We're We're having a good time all. of a sudden because now we got 70 bucks. that we can maybe flip into a great. Friday night. >> Bingo. >> Have a great Friday night. Whatever you. want to do. Stop by. Pick up some. Buffalo Trace. Yes. >> You know, have a night buffalo trace and. diet. I don't think you're supposed to. do it. No. It's delightful. >> It's so good. >> It is so It is. >> the best combo with diet coke. >> Yeah. A couple diet buffaloos. you have. quite a good night, you know, uh, with. it all. But that is something. >> that as we head into the holiday season, >> we need folks, you're not chasing. anything on these on these bets, okay?

I'm going to try to get somebody a new. something. Nah, we need to be. responsible. >> What if. >> on that note, you hit a plus 7,000, life's going to be pretty good. >> That's what I'm saying. >> Cam Scatteraboo tonight, plus 120 gets. in the end zone. Life's pretty good. Heading at plus 125. Why was it uh why. was it at plus 120? Has it shifted? Yeah, it's just moving back and forth. >> It started at. >> Let's get it right now. Everybody's. getting right now. >> Subject to change. >> right there across the bottom. Gambling. problem. Call blah blah blah. Do the. whole thingy. >> Give me that number. What is that?

>> Plus 125. >> Call the 1800 gambler one. They're the. nicest. >> And if you do like him to score two. touchdowns, that is plus 800. >> The Hope NY. >> They're kind of mean to you. >> No, they're not mean. They're just. trying to get the the right treatment. for you if you need it. And if you do. need it, we would recommend it. Just. don't be [ __ ] please. You're not. going to get rich off of this. And when. you're trading, Gumpy, you love looking. at the morning trades with how much. we've been traveling for these games. >> Yeah, I had Carson Wentz anytime. touchdown at 8% trade and I thought that. was a good bet at the time. Didn't work. out, but that's that's the trade.

[laughter] market. >> What's the app like uh in the trade. world as opposed to the world that we're. normally like. >> word for word, bar for bar, exact same, >> easy to use, very. >> the best. >> Okay. But it being easy to use is good. for user experience. Still need to be. very responsible. And on the trades, them telling you the percentages of you. hitting that I think is a little bit. clearer picture. I think that is. >> See, I like the plus. The plus looks a. lot better when I'm staring at it. The. percent. >> plus 7,000. What is this? 0.005%. you're trading on this thing. I would. imagine.

>> trades also very much more uh straight. up with you because there are less bets. in there. Like you know that no. touchdown would be a trade that you. could make, but you couldn't do like the. first drive catch or first quarter. yards. like there are a plethora of bets. you can do on DraftKings, whereas with. the trades, it is much more like. clear-cut, straightforward bets, which I. actually do like. >> I think a lot of the citizens of the. non-sports book states that trade. markets have come into in a big way.

saying, "Hey, we're the same." I I think. because of the all the offshore stuff. that they've had to do for a long time, that probably continues to be what some. people will stick with. So, I think uh. DraftKings has tried its absolute best. to make the experience the exact same. And they they have the best tech in the. biz whenever it comes to sports gambling. and they've done that for trades as. well. We've been trading a lot during. this this football. We've been in a lot. of trading states. Lot of trading states. and those percentages staring you in the.

face make you a little bit more. responsible with your money. I will I. will say as opposed to seeing a plus. 7,000 and thinking that the scratchoff. might hit. Let's be responsible. Let's. enjoy this night. Uh Chuck, before we. get into you making your picks, I know. you're a defensive head coach and I know. the way you used to play at Wyoming. >> Oh, buddy. >> You used to like whenever there were. some big nasty hits. You like physical. football. Ain't that right, CHUCK? >> YES, SIR. >> YOU KNOW, that's how you will. You will do all of. that. We know you will. >> Crown. >> Yeah. And it used to be you got jacked.

was the segment that we all kind of look. forward to for the big hits. Then the. NFL and football as a whole changed the. way it operates completely. The jacked. up hits which are normally uh riddle. rate to jaw type hits or blindside shots. or projecting like a missile into. people's sternum/faces. AJ, you were. guilty of what other type of hits am I. leaving off that uh you guys used to do. to each other back in the day before we. had uh Dr. Will Smith in the movie that.

basically said what you guys were doing. was terrible for yourselves? Well, you. know, usually as a defender when we when. there would be an interception, you'd. have three or four or five or six. defensive linemen looking for that. quarterback and planting him and landing. on top of him and that was considered a. plus play and it was not a penalty. >> Yeah, cuz that quarterback's trying to. tackle your guy. He doesn't have the. ball anymore. He's just a defender. So, if we're going to triple team them, I. mean, that happens in football and they. you you say landing on the guys, that's. another thing. Those sacks back in the. day or after. >> you were taught to you're taught to land. on them back in the day. That's how. that's what you're supposed to do.

>> Okay. And if you can get on that, you. know, cuz this is the half of his body. that's doing the throwing. So if we can. maybe get in there, he gets up like. this. That play clock tick tick tick. tick tick tick. Even if you don't get. him, we're still wearing them down. That's how these defensive coaches and. defensive players used to think. I'm not. saying it's how I would think. I didn't. defense in the NFL. I'm just telling you. the reality of the biz. Then the game. changed. Changed mightily, mightily, mightily, mightily. Heads up. We're not. doing that anymore. You're getting. fined. Yeah. Why are you running the. replay in the commercial break then?

Like if you don't want me to do this, why is this the highlight that you're. showing on all these things? Then you're. taking my money. Okay, we'll change it. completely. They changed football. entirely. Strike zone, helmet out of the. way, shoulders are doing this. Fundamental tackling for uh fundamental. tackle is now what we're expecting. A. whole generation now has grown up just. with this tackling uh uh fundamentals. >> And we got some thumps coming back to. football. >> Yes, we do. That's why it's a great time. for our Ram partnership in a segment.

that we call Ram. Truck. [groaning and screaming]. >> AJ, you would have been on Ram Truck a. few times, I think, back in the day. And. as you know, if you want to drive a. truck, you need to drive a Ram truck. [groaning]. I don't know if they love that part of. the whole thing. The binging. We don't. love the bing. Don't love the way you. talk about the truck there. Uh, let's. get through these because there's some. massive shots and it's not just. football. No, no. Let's go to hockey.

Jacob Chickin, defenseman for the. Washington Cat. [screaming]. >> Oh my god, >> that guy airborne. [screaming]. >> That's clean hit, right? He didn't get. he get penalized. >> No penalty. Clean hit. And only on Ram. truck asleep. >> Yes, he's out. He's out. There's a. fight. There's a scrum. He's out. on Ram. truck. We only put legal by the rule. book hits. We don't want to be promoting. nasty shots in any sport. But yeah, this. is a clean hit. >> Boom.

Puts them out. People are saying maybe. hardest hit in the history of hockey. We've seen another before. We've seen a. couple before where guys heads are. coming up late. They're full speed. Boom. You get knocked out. Hey, Ram. trucking happen on the ice. AJ, as you. know, very, very physical sport. Now, let's go down to LSU, Alabama. There's a. Caucasian linebacker that has been. everywhere. >> TEXTBOOK [laughter]. TRUE SOPHOMORE LUKE METS. Looks like an. absolute monster. That's old school hit,

AJ. THIS DUDE HAD A BUNCH OF THEM. I. LIKE THE WAY HE LOOKS. I like the back. uh flap. I like the way his helmet is. I. like his face mask. This dude's a true. sophomore. AJ thumping out there. >> Yeah, I can't wait to watch this guy. play. Well, probably one more season at. Alabama, then he'll turn pro. But man, he is, you turn the film on this guy, you will see him just annihilating. people all the time. He finishes through. the play. >> I think he had an interception, too, as. well. >> Yeah. And he's wearing prime shoes. I. mean, >> we got the moxy. We got the physicality.

And he brings the juice. That kid's got. another year. What's that, Chuck? >> We used to tell him, put those two. screws of that ride right under his. chin. >> No. Sam Lemon moved where his head was. HE WAS TRYING TO GET OUTSIDE OF HIM. SAM. DUCKED into the skull. No flag. >> I said used to. >> huge hit. He he absolutely did this um. on a regular basis on Saturday night and. then watching him it's like oh this. guy's superstar. >> Yeah. >> Shirt up.

>> Lot of juice. Lot good. 12 tackles. >> I mean he's you know and we're we are. down in the middle of the SEC beehive. That guy. >> it needs to come to the Colts. M. >> I would like us to draft him this year. with all of our second, third, fourth, fifth, sixth round picks. We like to. draft guys in the future. That's a guy. I'd like in uh in Indianapolis. I think. we need him. And the Colts are sitting. in an interesting spot where I'm already. thinking about drafting a guy two years. from now. That's not good. I don't like. that. Let's get to the next one, shall.

we? How about a quarterback? What? YEAH. >> 2500. BEEN THERE, DONE THAT. VETERAN IN. THE GAME. >> FEED SMITH. FUMBLE. OKAY, let's get the BALL BACK. ACTUALLY, SEND IT full body. I love it. It's a It's a hockey check slash full. send with his throwing shoulder, you. know, which is certainly the stronger. part of his body. AJ, what are they. saying to the lad there in the meeting. after getting absolutely RAMMED.

by the quarterback, pal? >> I mean, he didn't have a lot like you, he picks his ball up, Giladus, he lifts. his head up and boom. Like he probably. thought like, "Hey, what the hell just. happened? Who hit me?" He probably. didn't even know who hit him for a. little bit. >> Aloha Gilman takes the shot from Gino. Smith. Do you know this lad, Coach. Pagano? >> Yes, I do. He's a stud. He was with us. in Baltimore last year. I guarantee AJ's. right. He didn't know what the hell. happened. >> What's his name? >> Alohai Gilman. >> Cuz they do they say Does everybody say. Alohai or they say. >> They say alohai, not Aloha.

>> Okay. Aloha. >> What about? >> What about alohi? >> No. Alohai. >> Okay. a little high. Gino Smith said by. HE GOT RAM TRUCK. LET'S GO TO THE NEXT. ONE HERE. Shout out to the Green Bay. Packers. Evan Williams with A RAM TRUCK. PERFECT TIMING. Turns his shoulder, hangs on to the rock there, pop. Incredible stuff. But over the middle. hits kind of disappeared there for a. little bit. They're back seemingly. AJ, your thoughts here on Evan Williams ram.

trucking through his body. >> Yeah, you're right. They did. you used. to hear all the time like old school. linebackers and safeties say like, "Hey, you don't ever throw the ball across the. middle. I'll kill whoever catches that. thing." Those have kind of gone away, but I think it's guys know what to do. and they know how to lower their strike. zone and not get penalized for big hits. like this. >> I mean, that's a picture perfect in the. strike zone. Uh wide receiver has ball. He's not a defenseless uh whatever. player. And then helmet out of there. >> Yeah, >> that's a monster shot. Perfectly timed.

What a play. >> Yeah, he is unbelievable. And also kudos. to the officials because they did. initially throw a flag on this and then. picked it up. >> I like that. That was probably uh with. >> replay assist. >> Yeah, replay assist going. I know it's. going to be hard to believe, especially. with the reaction there, but like. >> Yeah, that's a that was a legal hit. Everything we want that guy just did. right there. So, that's good for the. state of both that those hits are still. existing. I think I hope the OG's. continue to think that. Let's talk about. Rel. [screaming]. >> I'll tell you, he had three sacks. If.

you're not going to block him, he'll. certainly punish you. >> Jesus. >> Bazooka Joe Milton. Welcome to Philly. and welcome to RAM TR. >> AJ, your thoughts on the Ohio State. Buckeye bringing it wide ass open. Joe. Milton, I am sorry to see it. >> Yeah, he Arbell Reese is obviously. killing it. Had a huge game, but also. like Arbell took a very nice path, too. A lot of times guys will get up the. field and kind of like bow that a little. too much. He took a direct line right. off that tackle that turned down to. block whoever the end was. So he took a.

nice direct path. He would have got him. no matter what, but that's what I think. enabled him to have such a clean shot. >> Yeah, he trimmed the fat there a little. bit as opposed to expecting he's going. to be blocked. He knew he wasn't. Makes. the play. Chuck Pagano, that's a tough. shot on a quarterback in 2026. >> Great job at the at the end of this. thing not getting body weight, putting. his hands out there, otherwise they'd. probably throw one there. That's a heels. charge. We tell them when you got all. those guys up, you don't know which way. they're going to slide. So you go right. at the heels of the tackle to AJ's point. about trimming that bat. So, it's either. going to be him free or the other side. free depending upon which way.

>> And then whichever way they turn it, if. they turn to you, you pop out. >> Let's go to an offensive player, a Ram. trucking a few folks in overtime. Harold. Fannon Jr. his first reception of the. day. >> Ram truck. [laughter]. >> Touchdown. He They kept him in the block. a lot so they could protect Shador. He. gets the ball. He gets loose and he's. throwing defenders around. I like. whenever the offense gets involved in. Ram trucks. Hey, Jay-Hawk. >> Yeah, it's awesome. And hey, also credit.

to the Browns for blocking down field, too. Like they uh they can the Browns. can surprise some people. I think. >> remember Shador took that massive shot. whenever he completed the one to Jerry. Dudy. This one he stands in the pocket, takes another shot. Shador Sanders. wildly tough at quarterback. It will be. on display. almost gets a win down in. New Orleans and has a couple massive, massive plays by his teammates, including Harold Fannon Jr. GOING RAM. TRUCK. >> TIMES TWO. He did it twice.

>> Two times. >> Mhm. >> AJ, he took you by that forehead of. yours. Get the get the That's so That's. got to be tough on defense side running. >> Terrible. >> You got chop, >> especially at an angle. You're running. an angle. You better time it up. perfectly, too, to chop that that stiff. arm because it's uh. >> Yeah, it's coming. And it can hit you. right in the face mask. Obviously, we're. not allowed to punch him back in the. face mask, but they can stiff arm you. right directly into the face mask. Open. palm strike like your boss root. You. just got to find a way to chop that arm. and get his legs down. >> I always wondered why they're allowed to.

do a shot to the head like very clearly, but it's an offensive move, I guess. Do. you guys just kind of have to handle. that? >> I don't know. Like, what if we went up. and just stiff armed right in the face. mask and threw an openhand shot right to. the face mask before we tackled? You. remember what Dererick Henry was doing. to people? I mean, he would get you by. your head and it was just a shot to the. actual head. It's like Gret's great. stiff arm and then you start hearing the. murmurss from the defensive players. saying he punched him in the face. >> What's the difference between a stiff. arm and a punch to the face?

>> I don't know what's Well, if it looks. sick. >> It's like all the peanut punches now cuz. if you miss, they're catching guys in. the helmet, too. >> Lay man did get him in the helmet uh. this week when he punched that one out. >> Did they call it or no? >> I don't think so. No. >> Oh, so there you go. age. >> good. It's good. It all evens itself. out. And also peanut punch, you might. miss and hit the liver, hit the kidney, hit the ribs, anything else, too. >> So, it all works. I guess it evens out. Listen to this guy. It all works. Get. him a good liver shot. >> Even nothing better. >> That'll slow you down. That'll slow you. down in traffic. >> No doubt.

>> Just a little bit. >> I got that virtual reality box and we're. back in there. >> Mhm. >> Oh, nice. Overhand, right? >> Of course. That is the winner if you. want to get in there. >> Ugly Joe. You fight Ugly Joe. still. after we killed Chuck. Chuck had a 12. round fight. >> Chuck had to fight his way out of that. Okay, that's on Chuck. If he puts Ugly. Joe down, that fight isn't four rounds, correct? Three minutes per round where. he almost passes away. He He good. sparring. >> right there. >> Yeah, you took him down. Good win. >> No CPR. >> Good win. [laughter]. >> Yeah, we got the we got the clear.

things. Uh yeah, but here is this Chuck. Yeah, this is Chuck fighting Ugly Joe. right here at the beginning in the. Thunderdome. Virtual reality boxing is. quite a workout. Chuck found that out. whenever he just couldn't put Joe down. You know, he had he didn't have thunder. in those gloves, but he certainly had a. little lightning, you know, Chuck. And. if you have some thunder, you can get a. knockdown. That thing will end a little. bit sooner. Ugly Joe said, "I I I'm. sorry. I can't fall to these punches.". But you did beat him up. >> He tried coaching me up. I just couldn't. >> couldn't execute it. >> Well, it was the round.

>> It's a lot of body blow. >> Well, you got to keep it tight so you. don't get exposed. >> Body blow. >> But yeah, you're you're Boom. Right. here. Bang. little little jab. So then. you get them like this. So you can get. him like this. And soon as you get them. like this, it's like, "Oh, welcome to. the [ __ ] Thunderdome P." Bang. Then. you're coming up over top of that thing. >> Boom. For the button, which is they have. a uh gym that you can go into and train. speed bag. >> Mhm. >> Okay. Speed bag. >> Yep. >> I feel so cool. [laughter].

>> Nobody else can see it. It's just me. They even make the sound though. >> Yep. I'm like, "Oh my god, I'm so then you go. over to this little dummy. It has uh uh. sensors on it." Obviously, in the. virtual reality world, how hard are you. punching this? Boom. You know, it gives. you a power on the right side. Gives you. a little comp to it. And then they have. the sensors on a full size uh what uh AI. human in there. Tells you to hit right. here. Boy, I didn't I didn't know that. this is Boom. You're trying to get right. here. I guess this one is a really.

devastating. >> the button of the body. >> Yeah. I I guess this is the a little. deeper. It's not in the front here. There's one right here. I guess you're. trying. >> You're trying to You're trying to get. around to that thing. >> I just want to [clears throat] get I. couldn't pass the stage cuz I couldn't. get a [ __ ] green on that one. >> Those body blows are hard. >> hard to get there. Tried to hit you there. >> Knock down sugar. >> Shout out Mickey. >> Right here. We're going here. >> He was fighting veto and a furmo. >> Body shot. >> You're not going to get into it.

>> Well, we just need to know if it's true. or not. If you're going to get into it, that's. >> Oh, no. He was fighting them. It was It. was true. >> Okay. >> Okay. Well, we heard about Albert and. Alfred last year. >> Look it up, Nick. >> The Dur brothers. >> Derer. sacrifice for your brother. One goes. down. >> The names were Albert and Albert, right? >> And somebody said, "No, that's not true, right?". >> Yeah. >> I think we got a graphic. >> What graphic? >> What's your difference? >> Holy [ __ ] Here it is. We got another. >> We got a bunch of black squiggly lines. >> The famous story, a brother sacrificed.

Chuck might have had this made. The. story goes that the 15th century, a poor. family in Germany, had 18 children. Two. of the brothers, Albert and Albert, both. dreamed of becoming artists. >> Okay. >> Their family couldn't afford to send. them both to art school. So, the. brothers made a pact. They would flip a. coin. The winner would attend at art. school. The other would work in the. dangerous mines to pay for his brother's. education. After four years, they would. switch places. Albertch won the coin. toss and went to study art. Well, his. brother Albert worked in the mines to.

support him. When Albert returned home. at a as a successful artist, he told. Albert it was now his turn to pursue his. dream. But Hbert began to cry. Years of. hard labor in the minds had damaged his. hands so severely that he could no. longer hold a paintbrush. Rather than feeling resentment, Albert. was happy. We don't have the rest of the. story. >> That's all we got from coach. Oh, so he. stop. [laughter]. >> That's not even the story you told, Chuck. >> Yes, it is. >> That is exactly the story you told.

>> Said that when the famous artist. returned, he took his place and he went. into the mines and he heard his hands. and could not ever. >> Yeah, there was a little. >> That was He did say that the artist went. down into the mines and then when he. came back his hands were so broken. >> and the brother's name is Hans, not. Albert. >> Well, what is this? This says it's Al. Albert and Albert. >> What is this? What is it? Where's it. from? Expedia Hallmark. Where's that. from? Encyclopedia Mechanica. >> I believe you, Chuck. >> I believe you, too. >> We made a vow a long time ago on this.

program to not spread misinformation. >> And Chuck, did we. >> broke it? >> THAT'S NOT MISINFORMATION. >> DAMN YOU, CHARLES. >> I think you got it right. Actually, most. of it. You got most of it right. I mean, >> I didn't say I said, "Hey, look, one's. going to go down, one's going to art. school." And they did that. >> And then. >> and then one came home, toasted his. brother. Thank you for doing it. Now I'm. going to go down for you. And the guy. says, "I can't go. I can't hold a. paintbrush. My hands are broke up. That's exactly how. >> I don't know if that's how you. >> rerun the tape. I. >> I think. >> let's go to the tape.

>> Okay. You might need replay assist. >> You might be right. My brain remembers. artist coming out telling brother now. it's your turn. Artist going into mine, busting fingers, coming out not being. able to be an artist. >> And that's on me. If I said that, that's. >> No. No. You said on the tape. You didn't. say it. I'm just saying that's how my. brain caught. >> You got a pretty good brain. Pretty. good. But then there was chaos though in. the back on what was real, what wasn't. real. So I might not have remembered it. properly. >> Yeah, you got you [ __ ] hate in. my head. [music] They talk to me.

>> They talk to me. >> Randy Orton, he had a big match. >> Really? They're still that thing. >> Certainly not. >> Randy and Cody once again. >> in awesome. >> during Saudi season. >> in Saudi. Yeah, I missed that one. I. ain't supporting that product. >> What? Why are you talking like Debo? What happened? Cody and Randy, we we. locked Cody and Randy. >> Well, no. If I was talking like Debo, I'd be like, "Yeah, it was [ __ ] sick, dude. Of course I [laughter] was.".

>> Final Ram truck comes from a punter. Okay. A punter kicking off for A. [screaming]. That's in the first quarter. KG affair. Punter Tommy Dumman Jr. OUT OF FLORIDA. BAM. PUTS HIS HEAD DOWN, hunts the ball, says, "You know what? The punter. position is the most athletic position. with THE MOST EXPLOSIVE BOOM players in. the entire sport." Shout out to Tommy. putting his face in there. I respect.

that. Appreciate that. I don't think he. was expecting a full crossbody effort. that he ended up giving, but it's. whatever you need to do to get the job. done. That's Tommy Domen football and. Ram Truck Day, Jay-Hawk. >> Yeah, he's a a soldier for the cause, as. you would say. He's going to put his. body on the line for the squad. This was. awesome play. I wish Buffalo would have. been able to uh to come up with it. >> Yeah. I mean, it's just a little bit of. misfortune, you know, that it ends up in. the Vikings. Shout out to the Minnesota. Vikings special teams. >> chasing the ball, being there for it as. soon as it pops up. And shout out to. Tommy Dman putting his head down there.

With the way the kickoffs are now, having somebody that can kick off and. make a tackle is certainly a little bit. of an advantage as opposed to having. somebody who doesn't like to put their. face in the face. >> Who do we see on the sideline earlier. this season? just get broke up. >> Oh, Blake Grumpy. >> Yeah, Grumpy. >> Come on, dude. >> Drop it. >> What was that? >> What do you mean? I'm just saying. Groupy. >> Is it? >> Yeah, we are a fan of Blake Grppy. >> I know. I know. >> Guppy. What is it? Groupy. >> Groupy. >> Blake Guppy also plays.

>> No, he's not a Guppy. >> Those are those little fish that follow. sharks, right? >> Uhhuh. >> He's Blake Groupy. Actually, >> that's kind of perfect. That's what he. look like throwing his body into that. dude. >> Well, Blake Rupy shouldn't be out on. there on kickoff. That's what I'm. saying. He's too tough. He's too tough. for his own good. What do you want from. him? >> He's Carson Wentz, but he can actually. every play, no play left behind. He He. wants to make the most of everything. Blake groupy will throw himself into a. defensive line if it means that he. thinks that it'll help the team win. >> That's right. >> So, we need to make sure we save himself. from himself,

>> not have him on kickoffs. But I did see. uh some teams I think are using. positional players to kick off. >> I saw that. >> Yeah. Fullback for the Jets. >> Yeah, this I do believe that's a good. idea. >> And then he kicked it out. the extra. tackler. >> That is not a good idea. >> Guy that can actually get a guy down. >> Yes. >> It started well first couple. >> Yeah. And if somebody played good high. school soccer and then transitioned into. being another positional player, certainly athletic enough to be able to. figure it out. Hitting a ball. consistently is kind of the thing, you.

know, for NFL kickers and why they're in. the NFL as opposed to college or. something like that. You can have some. mis hits in college. Nobody really or. knows. Nobody really cares. In the NFL, any mis hit, any miss is spotlighted as, "Hey, this is your only job. You need to. figure it out." So, if a linebacker or a. safety or a running back or tight end, whoever the hell it is, can get. consistent enough to hit that ball to. land it in the landing zone while also. offering up a very able body in the. coverage unit. It is a a big time. advantage, I think, and and teams only.

continue to do that as these kickoffs. continue to be a bigger part of the. game, which they already have been. The. amount of returns is way up. The amount. of implications have been way up. the. amount of decisions that have been uh. made with the kickoff in mind, both. going right and wrong, has been in. abundance. But yeah, that's why like um. I didn't always I appreciated that. people like showed me love for tackling, but it's like if you're a football fan. at all and you watch football, it's like. having 11 bodies on the field that can. tackle is a lot better than having 10.

bodies on the field that can tackle. And. for the good of everybody, if they score on us, we're all [ __ ]. miserable. Okay. So, it's like why why. did I like to tackle? It's like, well, I. didn't like it. It was a necessity. And. I I I think don't think there's like a. lot of uh kickers and punters that. necessarily view it the same way. That's. okay. I don't think they should be on. the field for the kickoffs, though. You. know what I mean? Like I think in this. particular kickoff, I don't think they. should be on the field. >> Yeah. You're short. >> Yeah. You're you're [clears throat]. disadvantage. >> It's like people that run, you know,

plus one quarterback runs. >> You can have eight in the box, but if he. carries the ball, you're short. You got. a guy out there that can't get a guy on. the ground. You're short. >> I love that. Uh Denver Broncos punt. return. I hit guy into guy. We've seen the play. I think I I I hit. guy. Guy was really good special teams. player too. I had a lot of respect for. him. He's lead blocking for returner and. I make the decision like I'm going to. hit the guy into the guy. That's really. the only thing that I have. So I give. pretty good boom. Guy does fall.

Returner skirts right by him. Scores a. touchdown. He completely scores a but in my mind it. was like I'm a hit guy into what a. ridiculous thought in the NFL. >> I'm sure you force him back inside which. all you can do. >> So that's what I didn't do actually. So. as soon as I get to the sideline there's. somebody [ __ ] waiting for me. You at. least got TO GET HIM [ __ ] BACK. INSIDE. GET HIM ON THE GROUND. And in. that moment it wasn't the right time to. be like well I was actually I was. thinking I'm going to throw another. professional athlete into a return. You.

see all this happening in real time in. his mind as you're as you're pursuing. Okay, here's okay blocker. He got I got. to do this just bing bing. >> Guy started right. Professional athlete, dude. Just [ __ ] thank you. [clears throat] How you doing? Scores a. touchdown. I was I was disappointed he. scored but I was pretty pumped that I. was able to make decision in real time. and it almost worked. Very bad that they. scored though. Soon as I get to the. sideline, you got to get him on the. ground. You either got to get him back.

to everybody or you got to get him on. the You go. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. I got. you, man. In my head. I was like, I. [ __ ] just sent a guy though. Like, [laughter] can we talk a little bit. about that? Shout out to Tommy Domen. There's been some big time kicker hits, punter hits. >> Matt Boscher, he used to be at he he. came through University of Miami. He was. on the Atlanta Falcons. >> Yeah, >> he got a guy. I think he got one. >> I think suplex. >> I think he got a guy pretty good. Who. else? Who was that punter from Baylor? Yeah, here he is. Boscher murders a guy.

>> Sephova. [snorts]. >> Uh Boscher punter. He was also kicker I. think in college. And then he flexed over top. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He was a dog. I was a. big fan of Yeah. Seovva. >> Daniel Seovva down there at Baylor. [clears throat] You know who else was. Neil Rackers? >> Mhm. >> Is that is that his name? >> He [ __ ] ran down. >> That was the first time I've ever seen. that. He was. >> full sprint in it. I'm like, bro. Yeah. Right. Right. Because there's sometimes. Kevin Huber [snorts] got you. There's a.

spot where kickers cannot be. You're. either behind it or you have to somehow. be in front of it. >> If you're in this like m middle area. here, there's somebody coming from both. sides to you and you you you were out. athleted. You were out toughed, outstrength, out everything. Huber got. it. He knew that. But you find yourself. in there and it's immediately like it's. a little bit too quiet right now. It's a. little bit too quiet right now. And then. it comes. I got blocked by a team. That. was cool. I hope they start blocking. Tommy Domen. That was like one of the.

most respectful things I've ever. encountered in my life. Somebody coming. to block me. And I ask him while he's. blocking me, "What are you doing?". >> He goes, "I'm blocking you the whole. game." [ __ ]. >> All right, we're just standing right. here then. [laughter] Will you please. not try to kill me at least in this. whole thing? That's good news. >> Yeah, that's that's uh that's good news. Okay, for tonight, special teams going. to matter. Rainy game, sloppy game, potential lowscoring game with the way. the weather is. Special teams gonna. matter. Commanders have one of the best. punters to ever do it. Tres way. He. might get a turnover by himself with.

what he can do with the ball. Will. special teams play. >> a part of this story. Jordan Stout still. punting for you guys over there in uh. New York. >> Oh yeah. And big bounceback game for. Dominic Zvada. Last game he was four for. four. >> Oh, okay. Special teams seemingly going. to offset each other with good football. play. Chuck, how do you see tonight. going as your picks have not been. necessarily like the the best in. history, >> but it can all change today.

>> You go from making fun of Liam Cohen. last week. >> Yeah. >> Suffering a loss. Football gods kind of. tell you we're not doing it. >> Real. >> and now you have a chance to go 11 and. one still in or 11 and six still in. front of you, Chuck. It starts tonight. in the NFC East. Who, why, how on this. Thursday Night Football game? >> Well, if we just go tail the tape, right? There's a lot of there's some. slight edges. The second one down there,

that's a that's total defense, right? You see New York's, you know, fifth in. the league. Um, so they've got a big. edge there. There's a couple that are. slight. The next two are slight. Uh, the. one the situational the SPR situational. Bano report, remember what we dove into. that? Oh, yeah. Yeah. So, we got eight. numbers that go into that, both offense. and defense. That's interception rate, sack rate, uh, third down, and red area. So, we've got Oh, thank you. Thank you, Bruce. >> There you go. >> Um, you know, so pass defense for the.

Giants. Obviously, total defense. I. don't know if pass defense is going to. be a factor if the weather is bad, right? It's going to be a ground game. >> Um, >> I assume they're going to throw it. though. >> What's that? >> I assume they're going to throw it. though. You have to. You have to at at. some point they'll and think about the. first game. Think about what Jameus did. He threw for over 300 yards and three. touchdowns. >> Yeah. >> To lead the comeback on these guys. >> Yeah. >> To get the tie. >> 54 pass attempts the first time. >> Crazy. [clears throat]. >> Yeah. 54. I don't think that's not going.

to be This is a Harbaugh ball game, right? >> Hard ball game. >> Hard ball game. Hard ball game. Hard. ball game. Hard ball game. Maybe Justin. Herbert should just start running it. >> Yeah, >> every play. >> Duck could have thrown it right now. >> Well, their offense maybe just get the. snap and just. >> run and then wherever you're attacking. >> Wing Table option. >> No, no call. No play call. >> Just set hut. >> It's not a bad idea. I like that. >> Line it up. Max protection.

>> Mhm. >> Set hut. >> Oh, lost. [laughter]. >> Touch pushes. [snorts]. >> Set hot. Gain a three. >> Mhm. Holy [ __ ] Stay. >> third and 11. >> Yep. Boom. Find a seat. >> Oh, he pass interception. >> AND THEN NO, THAT'S CARSON, NOT JUSTIN. They're saying they're the same, though, which. >> How many How many interceptions? Well, Justin leads the league or. >> he leads. I'm sorry. Something's wrong.

>> Yeah, but maybe they just go max. protect. Maybe they just go max. protection and just have him run it. every time. How come the super geniuses. over there haven't figured that out? Well, because of super genius. >> Who? Joama. >> No. >> No. >> No. >> Mike Ben Daniels. >> Well, they can't even max protect. because Josama doesn't have enough good. linemen. >> All right, let's get back to tonight. It's [laughter] going to be a hard ball. game. >> Slater, we got all Are they out again? >> Yeah. Every year. >> they're all Yeah, they're all. >> They get hurt a lot. That center getting. hurt kind of told the whole story. And.

we look back on it. >> recovered. >> Jim Harbaugh on our show. Was that the. day it was announced he wasn't coming. back? Yeah, >> legitimately shell shocked. >> He should have cancelled. >> down and out. >> The dober [ __ ] with. >> the dober. I mean, >> you did an unbelievable job of handling. that hole cuz when it came on. >> it was like I don't know how you're. going to get through this. >> Yeah, >> cuz this is real cuz you're like trying. and it's like. >> No, >> dober was down like. >> Yeah. We had to take that and. >> you got him back. >> We had to take that down into a. depressing spot.

>> It was sad. >> We had to go with him. You know, sometimes you just got to go with. wherever the person wants to go. And, you know, sometimes that's into public. policy and then sometimes it's into a do. or down world as a guy who's normally. super super up uh whenever you have it. But Jim Harbaugh gave us his time, which. we appreciate, but I think that's when. we should, we were very taken aback with. how bummed out he was as a football. coach. >> We could have never guessed it would. lead to this, but maybe we should have. >> Never recovered. I don't know. You lose.

your center and that just all all of a. sudden means your football team [ __ ]. sucks. Are you kidding me? >> He might have known. >> This is the only [ __ ] chance we got. >> Yeah, maybe. >> they're on their fourth center in. Baltimore. >> Mhm. They stink. >> They've lost four straight. >> Then why'd you pick him last week? >> Cuz body shot. blows. Body blows. Body blows. Cuz like. you cuz like you said, I hated that you. had to come on cuz I wanted to say do. not do this with me. I'm I'm loyalty.

I'm going with just and knew that they. were going to get the shite beat out of. him. Fano. >> Oh, you know. >> pano goes with Fano. But the dumbest. thing I've ever done in my life. [laughter]. >> We should have known, I guess, a Faniano. with that boot. >> The stupidest. >> But now Harbbo on your grandson Bear. picked the Jags, right? And when I. flipped, he cried. your grandson. >> Yes, Bear cried. >> What a baby. >> Well, yeah. >> Hey, wait. Watch your damn tone. Grow. up, Bear. >> Hey, Bear. People are allowed to make.

decisions. Bear, >> grow up, bear. >> Grandpa is allowed to disagree. >> When you have a kid and a grandson and. you make them go that route, you're. going to feel like shite. >> No. I'll tell you, >> I felt so bad. >> How about this? You know, >> buming out Kenzie is one of the worst is. the worst feeling on earth. But I mean, >> Bear knows his grandpa. He should have. known that you were definitely gonna. just pick whoever you have ties to. because that's what kind of happens to. football people. There's a loyalty. There's an appreciation. There's. something you know over something you. don't know. Which is why tonight to.

Connor's point is pretty interesting. He. has blood on one side. >> Mhm. Yeah, he does. >> And loyalty on the other. >> Yeah, he does. >> I don't know how he kind of makes his. pick. AJ, have you thought about that? There's your Pagano. Uh Janu. >> Yeah, January. He's the out the pass rushers is where. he's at. And then obviously John. Harbaugh is the reason why coach Pagano. ever became a head coach. So I'm. fascinated to see who he decides to. really, you know, put the.

>> I'm taking the heart out of this. This. is just common sense. >> Okay. >> Go to hell. Just. >> nooch harbball. You're it had nothing to. do with any family heart. Nothing. I'm. just looking at these ball clubs. >> and try to get a win. >> and just try to get a dub. And we know. how two things the. >> the ball is the program tonight. That's. the most valued thing. >> with the weather. >> that that and the quarterback. >> Mhm. >> Who can affect and who can protect?

>> And can the Giants contain JD this time. and not let him run all over the place? Now, we have video evidence at the end. of that first matchup in week five. All. right. where they Dinard Wilson said, "Okay, fourman is out." And he likes to. pressure anyway. So they threw bodies at. him. He had nowhere to go and they. sacked him. Two third downs to get two. more possessions to tie that thing up to. go to overtime. So in my heart of. hearts, I'm thinking, "Okay, they've got. that settled. They've got that squared.

The kid will run around. He'll make. he'll make some plays." Um Scat, he's been resting. >> Mhm. >> Right. And they wouldn't if that ham. wasn't right, they wouldn't put him out. there. >> Thursday. Not too early. He get another. week and a half, he could steal. >> That's very Duke, right? >> But he's he's he's got to be fresh, right? >> You think? >> Fresh as a daisy. >> Fresh. >> Or they're saying, "Let's test it cuz we. got 10 days until the next. >> I know Trace is out, but between him and. Sing Singleary.". >> Mhm. >> Right. JJ making [clears throat] some.

plays with his legs, right? got a hit pointer. >> cuz he'll be back and it. >> and uh you got Malik. There was a 30. and then you can get the guy to go and. then he'll go and then he'll. and then their side's going to and. you're going to try to. >> and then they get in the end zone. You. know what they're doing? I'm singing in. the rain. >> Oh,

[laughter]. >> pretty good. >> Yes, sir. You know what I mean? >> Sure. >> Hey, 33 targets, >> 22 catches between likely and neighbors. first meeting. >> Okay. >> Targeted 33 times, 22 catches, three. tuds between those two dudes. >> Yeah, >> they're going to they're going to get a. lot of work. >> I suspect this little freshman, >> this rookie for uh for Washington, Antonio Williams, I think his name. Good. player. Good player. Don't be surprised. He. >> may get in the paint. Oh,

>> and Okon. >> Okonquo. >> Okonquo. Keep an eye on 85. >> middle of the field. >> in a conquo game, >> they're going to get some opportunities. There's going to be some disguise Tampa. coverage and if that those middle. linebackers ain't running down the. middle of the field, >> AJ, and they're not deep enough and they. get in the trail position, then there's. a there's a possibility for a shot down. there. >> What's the uh Williams? You said. >> Antonio Williams number 14. Antonio. Williams plus 425 to score a touchdown.

He has one on the season. >> Okay, we'll take that because that just. popped out of your mouth pretty quickly. there. >> What's the wind situation like? I know. it's going to be raining, but do we know. what the wind is? >> Blush free. >> Like 20 miles hour. >> Are you serious? >> Yeah, it's going to be very windy. >> cuz that's the that's the they always. bring like fresh balls in there and dry. there. It's windy and it's really. difficult. >> Steady 20. >> I just got a good one in there. I I just. >> The red area the red area has been a. problem for the [clears throat] Giants. Bruce will tell you I think they're 32nd.

right now. >> Gez, >> there hasn't been a lot of opportunity, but so they've they've struggled a. little bit down there. I suspect they'll. be a little bit better, but I think this. is limited possessions because both. sides are going to have to run the ball. Uh I know I got a feeling that the. Giants are going to run it and run it. and try to possess the ball for at least. 10 more minutes than their opponent. tonight. Um. >> yeah. >> So I'm I'm You ready? >> Mhm. >> Now I don't know if Are you ready? you. Charlie. >> I have not waffled one bit. I knew I.

knew where I was going the whole way. This has nothing to do with. >> guys who got guys job, loyalty, brother, blood, all that stuff. It'd be so easy, right, to do that. >> But you are Italian, so. >> but Harbaugh's nine and one at home on. Thursday night. >> Mhm. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> The Giants are playing at home. >> Mhm. >> It's a wide out. >> Mhm. >> Oh, I like that. >> Yeah. >> I didn't have that Tennessee. information. It was going to be a. blackout there. Neil, that that would. have been a nice piece of information to.

happen. >> For sure. >> I suspect LT will be down there. >> Oh, going crazy. >> Oh, really? >> Dapping up Arll. >> Hey, what's up, Arville? Three sacks. with. >> Von Holland. back there. Newsome and Banks outside. Two wide receivers down. You we know. scary. >> Yeah. >> Is on IR still. And Burke and Burks is. out. >> and the center for Washington's out. two defensive tackles. [snorts] Like we. got Scat going right up the middle. He's. a between the tackle guy, right? Yeah.

Last time I saw Yeah. And you got two. your Now they've got some bodies in. there, but they're not paying and. they're not uh Kinlaw. >> Sure. >> So with that being [ __ ]. >> I'm going home team minus two. Okay. >> Okay. Shoot. >> I don't have. >> love you Jon for life, but. >> sounds like you don't really like. >> Not tonight. [ __ ] brother. Sorry, Janu. Hey, Janu is going to have the boys. ready to play. We know that's Pagano. football. Bruce Brown, big claps in the. back there as he sits as a Giants fan.

Uh Chuck hasn't really seen it that well. this year, but tonight could change it. all. Bruce Brown. >> Yeah, that's right. And uh to Chuck's. point, this Giants defense is a changed. unit since the first matchup where they. um you know tied. Uh I'm excited for. Arll Reese to be on prime time um you. know, television and everybody get a. chance to watch him. He's been unbel. unbelievable. Abdul Carter's been. unbelievable. Uh but it does start and. stop with Cam Scataboo. Scataboo has an. opportunity to uh show that it wasn't.

wise to go out and look for a running. back at the deadline and that he can be. the bellcow. Um because last week when. we couldn't really run the ball with big. motor Devin Singleary, um JJ had 19 pass. attempts and was sacked five times. I'm. not worried much about JJ, you know, slinging it. uh he's shown through a. quarter and two games that he can. It's. can he stay healthy and not get hit and. not sort of go the way of Jackson Dart. where he's going out all the time and. Jamus is coming in um to save the day.

So that that's my worry, but I think uh. coach is right. We're getting back to, you know, Ricard Scataboo, Pound the. Pill, and JJ's just sort of managing the. game, not turning the ball over, and. letting the defense and special teams. get the job done. All right, good luck. to you, Bruce, and your Giants. >> I'm fired up. Let's [ __ ] go. Vintage. uh white uniform, so with the old school. helmet, it's gonna look awesome. >> Oh, it's gonna look incredible. Might be. a dominating night. Janu might have a. long trip back to DC after this one. AJ,

are you riding with Chuck Pagano and. Bruce Brown or are you going with the. Commanders getting points on a Thursday. night? >> So, coming in, I was honestly kind of. waffling. I wasn't sure where I was. going to go. I was going to let Chuck. kind of guide me in the right direction. of where I should go. But with that. being said, I'm taking the Washington. Commanders plus two and a half on the. road. >> He likes Janu. >> I like Jaden Daniels again. third downs. >> What were the favorites this weekend? >> 13 and one. >> Yeah. >> 14 and last week. Excuse me. >> New week, coach. >> Yeah. What's that going to last forever,

coach? >> You like Arville Reese on the other. side? Sunny, I guess. >> he is. Sunny's over there. All right. Believe me, the Giants defense does. scare me a bit. That is for sure. But I. just think I don't know. Hopefully they. try to match him. Hopefully get third. and five, third and six. They try to. match him up. They don't have a spy. Jaden gets loose a little bit. >> JJ McCarthy, Michigan, man. >> Mhm. They couldn't do it. >> What does that have to do with it? >> You know. >> Yeah. You know what that has to do with. it. >> You woke up this morning betting against. JJ McCarthy. That is that is how you. woke up this Yeah. Look at his face.

That is exactly. >> I have nothing against Jay. This is this. is more my belief in what the commanders. are going to do with their backs against. the wall. It's like an elimination game. for them pretty much. >> I agree. Hey, I'm on your side here. I I. agree with what you're saying, but it. does feel like you woke up saying. I'm not betting on JJ. >> He does also I don't know cuz he's. always told me like off air over here. like he loves JJ's locker room speeches. and sitting underneath and grounding uh. with the. >> meditation stuff. Meditation. Yeah.

>> You were telling me you loved his eye. black when he wears it, you know, all. the way down there. These are things that I supposedly have. told you guys behind the scenes. >> Yeah. You also said I do like that he's. grounded when he did this on the. sideline and came back. >> I felt bad for him on this one. [laughter] I felt bad. >> That had to hurt so bad. >> There's not a lot of things that are. making you buckle in pain. You know, that had to feel like he was getting. stabbed at that exact moment. Shot tor. coming back. Is that going to slow him. down tonight, Bruce? The the hip pointer.

that has been diagnosed now? >> Yeah. I I don't know. Honestly, he's. he's wincing like that a lot. It seems. like just just in general. [screaming]. >> But think of the Pat. >> Mhm. >> What did Jamus do against these guys? >> That's right, coach. >> He's sliding the ball. >> So, I'm not worried like if he's got to. come in, we get little Jameus Winston. exper. >> He ain't little. >> Not in this weather. >> He ain't little. >> Yeah. This is not the Jameus Winston. experience that you'd sign up for if. Jameus Winston was on your team. >> All right, I'll take the Giants.

>> Football Giants. Football Giants. I'll. take the football Giants. Let's go, Chuck. >> Come on. >> Does he have some gimmick he's going to. run the back and grab? >> That's where we're waiting. You think I. was going to pick against my brother? >> He's got a glass of Januious piss back. there. >> Exactly. He took some someone's really. dehydrated piss. I saw that earlier. >> This is my brother's pitch. [laughter]. >> He's okay with me picking against him. >> This is honor of AJ. What he used to do?

[laughter]. >> What? What? Uh, so. >> what is that? >> You just been drinking piss all morning. or. >> No, it's that. >> [ __ ] apple juice. >> Wake you up sauce in there. >> Oh, you got wake up. >> You got poured Red Bull into a better. [ __ ] sugar. >> If you use a funnel get off the wall, >> I'm afraid to bring a can up here. I. don't know who we [ __ ] sponsor and. who we don't. >> Oh yeah, but Fiji bottles. Okay. >> Well, I mean, you guys got to have. [laughter]. the [ __ ].

>> Nobody would get on. >> What did it say and say? Water's water. We don't have any water to stuff. >> We don't know. >> We got rammed truck. >> You hammered. >> Hey, listen. I think with the. performance you put on today, especially. with all those Red Bulls floating. through your body through a Fiji bottle. Didn't put it on an unmarked bottle. Just took it out of the Red Bull can, put it into a Fiji bottle, brought it up. here. Nobody will ever. >> wake up juice. >> Nobody will ever know. You got a little. bit of your wake up juice. You got some. wings. Do you think you're going to make. a throw here today? Or do you want to. maybe try a different sport? Do you want. to throw a donk? Do you want to shoot a.

basketball? >> Do you want to push an elephant around. or do you want to maybe throw a football. into a basketball hoop? >> Football. Let's go. >> Love it. >> Likeish. [laughter]. >> AJ has a motivational message for you. Chuck Pagano as you attempt to do the. impossible, which is make a football. into the basketball hoop as 30 people. win $500. >> Chuck, do this one for Bear. We know. Bear is watching. He's going to be very, very heartbroken if you do not make. this. So, think how excited he will be. when you drain this first throw right. here.

>> Do this for Bear. >> Come on. >> Do this for the people, Chuck. >> Yes, sir. >> 30 people, $500. >> Grand boy bear watching at home. Judging. Grandpa. >> Love it. Love step up and. we're talking about that fun. >> I think we need to keep Bear involved in. all of our speeches here. Okay. Whoever. is speaking next, I think him trying to. do it for Bear is a big deal right now. Let's go ahead and try to reach the. person we're trying to reach. Uh Connor,

I know you'll have something very nice. to say to Bear's grandpa, Chuck Pagano. >> Come on, Charlie. You think we all want. Bear to cry like a little baby? No. We. want Bear to be excited. And that's in. your hands right now. You're the one. that's going to make him seem like a. baby crying all the time, like a little. girl. Or. >> you could pick up that ball and then you. can just put it in the hoop and Bear's. going to be super pumped. I'm going to. put you through that hoop. >> Yeah, about it. >> If that helps the people win. Go ahead.

>> You're talking about Bear's grandpa. here. >> Yeah. Come on, papa. >> What do they What does Bear call? >> What do they call Nokio? >> What do they call you? >> Grandpa Pop. >> Pop. >> Pop. >> All right, pop. This is Bears. Pop. attempted to win 30 people $500. Talks. the table ain't no good. [laughter]. >> Pretty good line. >> That's a good throw. These are two. really good throws. [laughter]. >> He doesn't call you Minga. Bingo.

>> He told Tori to said the other day him. and Bod Tori and Bod were getting at. saying something to him talking to at. the same time. He started to get a. little confused. And he said, "Hey, can. you one at a time you're giving me a. [laughter]. old bear?" How old is it? >> So beautiful. >> How old is Bear? >> Six. >> Unbelievable work. >> He's six crying cuz you switched teeth. >> All right. >> Just s. >> Yeah. Listen, Bear's a little uh I like. he runs a little hot. A little bit of. emotions. Tone has a message for Bears's.

pop here. >> Yeah. I mean, Bear Pop. What would Julius Caesar do? >> That screeching back there laughing. [laughter] Jesus Christ. Goddamn siren. >> That's my um what would Julius Caesar do. in this situation? >> It's a great question. >> Kill the Senate. >> What would he do? >> What would he do? >> He would. be born through his stomach. >> No, >> Tonyy's not [laughter]. up on the classics recently. I wasn't. anticipating.

>> I thought you were going to answer the. question. >> No, he would win the people. Cuz. [laughter] if you win the people, you. win Rome. And if you win the people. money, you will win the this. >> You win the the mob. Yes. You win Rome. and Caesar made a salad and. >> a birthing technique and. >> he would definitely make this. >> Did I say Caesar? [clears throat]. >> Yeah, >> I met Marcus Aurelius. But um. >> Oh, >> okay. >> tomato. >> stoicism. >> That's on me. >> Nonetheless, get a little bit of your uh. Red Bull wings. >> Belly full of. >> pick. I think it is not death a man.

should fear. >> Never beginning to live. >> That's Marcus Aurelius. >> LET'S GO. COACH, >> WHY WON'T YOU live a little bit? >> Wow. >> Won't you make this shot so 30 PEOPLE. CAN WIN FIVE MARCUS Aurelius. Australia? >> Too juiced up. [laughter]. >> Too juiced up right now. >> One more white. [laughter]. >> One more flag. >> One more flag. >> Here we go. Go on.

I just want whole football to show. solidarity with you because I want to. let you know although it doesn't feel. like it sometimes with the way these. microphones hear the stuff that's coming. out of these guys' mouth. >> We're on your team coach. >> We love you, Charlie. Coach, we don't. love you as much as Bear loves you. Obviously, Pop. >> No doubt. >> But Bear would love to see Pop be a hero. to 30 people right before holiday. season. >> That's right. >> Could you imagine another 500 bucks just. dropping into your account. >> because Pops uh Bears pop drains a. basketball? I mean, or drains a football.

into a basketball hoop. This could be an. absolutely thrilling, incredible, memorable, iconic day for Bear and. Bear's Pop. Yeah. >> All you got to do is just put that. football in that hoop right over there. >> Papa, >> COME ON, POP. GO ON, PO. NEVER going to get it. Never going to. get it. [singing] Never going to get it. Never going to get it. Never going to. get it. Never going to get it. Never. going to get it. >> [singing].

>> I don't like it. >> It's okay, Papa. >> It's not okay, Pop. >> Think so. >> Yo, soy. >> Pop. Oh. >> Oh. >> Oh. >> To Papa. >> I think I could get one of those in. there. >> I don't think you can. >> What? >> For [laughter] the brand. >> You think so? >> I think so. >> Seven more of them. >> One more. >> I think you can. >> One more. Okay. >> I believe. I believe that. >> I believe that you. >> I believe that you can make it. I.

believe that you can make it. I believe. that. >> Yeah. That chance dead. >> Yeah, we should probably put that thing. to rest. >> Yeah. >> A Ponchettino is no longer the coach of. US. Moment of silence for the I. I. believe I believe that. I believe that. we I believe that we will. I believe. that we will. >> That was such a cool one. Sorry. Punch. >> No, no, no, no, >> no, >> no. Don't be sorry for him. >> Yeah. Where'd he go? Bigger. >> Better opportunity. >> Yeah. >> Play the US soccer, you know, organization like a goddamn fiddle and. then got out of there. It's beautiful.

It's the American dream. >> He did kind of experience the American. dream over here. >> He did. >> He didn't get the job done for us, but. he promised he would. Now he's going to. Manchester United. And that chant. probably going over there with him. >> No. >> Moment of silence, please, for it all. What's his name? Mauricio. >> Yeah. Big Mo as his friends called him. >> Well, what's the word? Grande Mo. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Large Mo. >> No, I think it's Spanish, right? You. spoke.

>> Grande Mo. Yeah. >> Where's he from? >> Uh, >> you're so disappointed. >> Argentina. >> Argentina. Do they speak. >> so disappointed that it's Grande? >> Don't cry for me, Argentina. >> Well, there you go. >> He's not crying for America anymore, I. don't think. >> No. Love his time here. That's all we. can ask. Mhm. >> What was the pay raise? What was the pay. raise? >> He's making less. Yeah. Less money. No. company car. Doesn't even get a house. >> Just wants to win. >> This one's for Grande Mo. >> Come on, Mo.

>> Yeah. US spends. >> Wet your lips with some of that ice cold. piss. Quick. Gross receiver to drive. around. >> Got to be so warm by now. [laughter]. >> Yeah. Just the way he likes it. >> Can you get some of that Fiji Red Bull. piss? >> Get that thing. You got a little bit of. warm p. >> Warm p. So hard to pour into that tiny. little bottle. >> You drink it with your tongue like a. weirdo. >> The amount of control that you had to. have out of that red boy. [laughter]. >> Steady, man. >> Where is it at? It's going to be all. over our [ __ ] somewhere. >> Somebody's going to be walking around. It's just going to be. >> He was missing for like an hour today.

>> Why? Why are my feet sticking. everything? >> So, you want to know? You want to know. the technique that was used? >> Sure. >> Okay. So, I didn't spill, >> went to the sink, put this in the sink, opened the can, poured it in there, >> rinsed off all the spillage, >> 100%. >> I wouldn't treat this I'd treat this. like my own home. >> As you should. >> Manchester United would owe the United. States Soccer uh group around 12 million. if the Premier League club, which just. fired its manager, poaches US men's. national team. Oh, so we're getting. money. 12 mil. >> Yeah. Send that 12 to the USA hockey.

>> or a sport that matters. >> Yeah. >> NFL. I hope you're happy, Ponch. This is. what you've done. Yeah. >> To potential US soccer fans. >> Thank you for the ride he gave us. >> Or maybe cash infusion in the MLS. God. knows they could use that 12 million. >> No. Why would we do that to the MLS? >> Because how long are they going to last? 12 million last another 15 years. They. run the league for the next [laughter]. >> That is not. >> Do we need 15 more years of the MLS?

>> Well, I'm not going to [ __ ] watch it. Neither are you. But that's a club that. like it. Soccer does seem to have a long road. ahead to gaining steam before the next. World Cup, which is in year 2030. >> Correct. >> In Portugal? >> Jesus. >> And. >> what were we thinking Mo was going to. do? Just hang out here for the next four. years coaching us up. >> Crazy. Crazy thought. >> Yeah, right. That man's got to do his. job. >> After the World Cup, we went and played.

like Trinidad and Tobago and he was. like, "Fuck this [ __ ] [laughter]. Get me out of there. Do a T. What am I doing? >> Could you give coach Pagano your best. coach Ponchettino motivational speech as. he attempts to do the impossible and. make one of these footballs into. [clears throat] that hoop and. everything? >> Yeah, hang with me here because if you. remember when Ponch was on the show, it's tough to piece together his. English. So, uh, >> Charlie, I go foot the foot American.

football in hand. You take the football. and come to center stage right here cuz. [clears throat] we know. Yep. Right. there. I don't don't think at all. Okay. You take the football and like Kurt. Russell say that you know we do believe. miracle. I believe why not us. So go. throw the football in there and his. grandson bear. >> And we'll see. Bear is a he's a good. kid. He's throw tough kid. We use a kid. like that on the on the pitch. Uh, throw.

the ball in the hoop and let's win some. money. >> Perfect. >> 30 people, $500. Yeah, right. [laughter]. >> Oh, man. >> So close. >> So close. >> That was so good. >> All right, we're getting out of here. >> Great work, coach. Felt like I was in. there. Change room. >> Yeah, >> Chuck, good work this week, pal. >> Charles, love being here. Love you guys. >> Picks and throws not as good, but. everything else immaculate. Uh, great. work, Tone. Great work this week, pal. >> You, too. Talk to table. It's been fun.

hanging with you the last few days. Boy, >> you too, man. >> I'm ahead of Boyisey. >> Boy, boy. >> I'm ahead of Boyisey. >> Quick, John. >> Way out there, AJ. It's [ __ ] way out. there. Way out there. >> It's not as far as like Oregon. >> Sure. >> Or Seattle, >> but it's close. >> But it is It is way out. Can't wait to. see. I've never been to Idaho. I've. never been I feel like I've been to a. lot of states. Chuck has lived there. since he coached there. >> I can't believe that honestly.

>> What's that? >> Just that you live in Idaho. That's just. kind of wild. >> Full time. >> Grew up in col. So. >> true. True. That is a good point. >> Always saying the praises of Idaho. Has. been trying to get us out to Idaho for. years now. >> Years. >> And now we're heading out there. Can't. wait to see the Pagano estate. Can't. wait to say grai tonight to Miss Tina. and everything. And uh we can't wait to. see uh you all tomorrow as we are live. on a feel-good Friday reacting to this. NFC East clash tonight and setting the. table for the greatest weekend.

>> yet. >> Thank you. >> for everything you do. Uh the fact you. guys pay attention to our [ __ ] is. the only reason why we get to live the. luckiest and dumbest lives of all time. If it wasn't for all of you, >> we know that this wouldn't exist. So, thank you. We love you. And we'll see. you tomorrow. Be a friend. Tell a friend. something nice might change your life. for us to sing together. >> Chuck, anything for the team? >> Love you, boys. >> Love you. >> Love you, Charlie.

>> Love you, too, Chuck. >> Team on me. It's easy as that. Week 10, baby. >> Mhm. Week 10. >> Team on three. One, two, three. Team. Goodbye.