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this holy shot Thursday May 2025. This. program starts. now are happening all around us. We were. off yesterday cuz I had meetings all day. and uh we're trying to figure out the. future of our business, our company, and. our life. And I would like to say things. are looking good. We do believe in life. is great, especially because sports are. fantastic. Hey, why is today called. Holy Shite Thursday? Well, that's.

because the Knicks are up two over the. Celtics. Holy [ __ ] The Indiana Pacers are up two. uh over the number one seed Cleveland. Cavaliers. Holy [ __ ] The Maple Leafs are up 200. over the reigning defending undisputed. Lord Stanley Cup champion Florida. Panthers. Holy sh. And George Pickkins is a Dallas Cowboy. Holy [ __ ] So much happening. Uh and.

we'll be trying to catch up with all of. it. We'll be chitchatting about it all. We have a lot of guests coming on. Quinton Richardson will join us in about. nine minutes. Obviously, he was a. 13-year NBA veteran. He will chitchat. about the upsets that are potentially. around the corner in basketball that. none of us could have seen coming. Pacers up two over the Cavs cuz Tyrese, what the hell of Burton is hella balling. all over the place. Okay, I'm going to. miss his free throw on purpose. Yeah, without a doubt. Yeah, without a doubt. No questions asked. No questions asked. Have you seen his free throw.

percentages? If he's going to miss, it's. going to be on purpose. He knew he was. going to miss it short. He knew there. was going to be a scrum. He knew where. it was going to bounce. He said, "Let me. snag that thing." Oh, we're one-on-one. at the top. Okay. How you doing? Keep it. ah the step back. We're going to start. calling that the what the how because I. believe that is happening at a regular. basis and him having what two. gamewinning or whatever. They started. giving out all the stats nine out of 10. highest percentage since like 1960. something or whatever. Tyresese. Hallebertton was voted the most. overrated player in the NBA by our. friends at the New York Times is. athletic uh a couple weeks ago. What has.

he done since then? Oh, just big ball. all over everybody. Holy sh. We are in Hallebertton's time. And uh if you start looking around the. league, you start looking at who's. playing well on a consistent basis, you. start to think to yourself, hold the. phone. Are we staring down a potential. parade here in Indiana in a few months? Are we staring down the hottest team in. the NBA right now? Even if you go all. the way back to like February or. whatever it was, the Indiana Pacers are. that team and they're a team that works. hard. They're a team that's bought in.

They're a team that's very close. in. their team that has a superstar at the. point guard position who is humble and. has got enough moxy to be electrifying. Now, I know the NBA and the TV people. haven't wanted to put him on prime time. You don't want that guy on prime time. television. You're out of your damn. mind. Next game is on Friday night here. in Indiana. I assume that we will have. some representation in the building and. uh I'm pumped up about this. Now, obviously the Cleveland Cavaliers are a. great team. Cleveland Cavaliers have had. a stupendous season. Number one seed in. the East and that is an East that has. the Boston Celtics. Speaking of Boston.

Celtics down 200 to the New York Knicks, let's go over to the toxic table at Ty. Schmidt. You look great. And at Boston. Connor, what the hell's going on now? I'm hearing everybody say the next game. is a must win for the New York Knicks. because the Celtics might wake up. What. the hell happened last night? And how. are we at a situation where the Knicks. are up 20 over the daunted dominant. Boston Celtics team? Con man, yeah, not. so dominant whatsoever. Uh last night it. was kind of the same story as game one. right into it. The w with about I don't. know 6 minutes left. Yeah. Up 10 the.

Celtics. The Knicks come right down. Bridges three. I believe that was his. second bucket of the game. He scored 14. points all in the fourth. Brunson three. How you doing? Off an offensive rebound. Basically a nightmare situation here. Josh Hart. It was them three really in. the fourth quarter. Uh here they go. again. You guys are up 20 at one point, right? Up 20 at one point I believe. 99%. or 98% chance of winning, whatever the. [ __ ] that means. Graphic has it as well. I think they're the first team ever to.

come back from 20 point games uh in. backto back in a playoff series. There. it is. There's their first lead of the. night with 158 left in the fourth. quarter. Uh Brenson's unbelievable. Here. he is once again. A lot of people. thought that was an one, but uh no sir. They go up by three. Celtics actually. can score the basketball even though we. haven't seen much of it. Not there. Those are free throws. The Celtics. didn't score a field goal, I believe, for six straight minutes in the fourth.

quarter. Those are free throws. Those. are not field goals. Uh down by one. Celtics, of course, make it look easy. Tatum walk right down the court. Dunk. Oh, we're up by one. You know, the. Knicks, they have the most clutch player. in the NBA, even if they are able to. score, which they are. Brunson gets the. free throw line here against Drew. Holiday. He ends up making both of them, but still plenty of time. 12.7 seconds. Celtics down by two and uh or down by. one rather bucket once again and no.

timeout. Kind of love it. Let the boys. play. Tatum just came down and went. right to the hole and scored. Let's see. if he can do it again on Mitchell. Robinson, their center. Uh turns out no. Male Bridges kind of late double team. there. Snatches the ball, blocks him. Game one, he snatched it out of Jaylen. Brown's hands. Game two, he basically. blocks the Tatum pass to Jaylen Brown. And the Knicks take a two- lead, winning. twice in Boston. Bridges uh was.

unbelievable in the fourth quarter. He. scored all 14 of his points. Um and it. was quite a spectacle here. Here's kind. of the highlights of him also doing the. deed. It was it was uh I won't say. abusive because I'm not going to go that. far, but watching it as a Celtics fan, it was painful. Yeah, I can imagine, especially being up 20 or whatever, this. is back-to-back games. And this New York. Knicks team, obviously, we know about. their resilience and their fight and. their grit and everything like that. And. Brunson has been voted the most clutch. player in the NBA. And he's a dog.

Obviously, we saw him last year during. the playoff run this season. I think. there was an injury, maybe a trade, some. [ __ ] happened with the Knicks. Were the. Knicks going to be able to be the Knicks. this year without Devenzo and everything. they had going on, Cat coming over. there, yada yada yada. And it's like. they continue to be the team that just. keeps on fighting. And I think people in. New York are pumped that this team is. representing the city of New York. Bruce, this is the best Knicks team. Uh, obviously best run the Knicks have had. in a long, long time. Feels like the. city's out, brother. They're outside. right now having a blast with this. Oh, yeah. We are. We are outside. As they.

say, the Knicks haven't been to the. Eastern Conference Finals since 2000. This is the most fun I've had watching a. New York sports team since 2007, probably. Um you can even go back to the. Yankees 2003 Aaron Boone hitting a a. game seven walk-off um home run. It's. that type of energy that we're dealing. with right now. Um honestly last night. the played great defensively, but. offensively we really struggled to get. uh to get anything going obviously in. the uh in the first three quarters. Um, but you know, we're we're uh you know,

taking it back to MSG and um hopefully. putting it away and Destiny is all we'll. have that rematch with the Pacers and be. the uh first healthy team they play in. the NBA playoffs since the Boston. Celtics last year. Okay. Yeah, I. understand the Cavs have some injuries. I mean, that's basketball that's going. to take place. I'm excited to see a. healthy Knicks team take on a healthy. Pacers team. A lot of basketball left. Oh, yeah. This is what the best of seven. thing is. People can get up 2 and uh. everybody lose their mind. You know, they stole two on the road. It's like. they can easily take the other two in.

your house as well. All these teams are. great at this point. Cavaliers have had. a phenomenal year. Spa has a chance to. go do some magic here in Indiana. And. whenever we talk about the Celtics, I. mean, they missed another 33 threes last. night or something like that. Yeah. 10. of 40 from three and they were going to. the hole, which was very nice. But yeah, it's kind of reminiscent of the Celtics. Pacers series last year in the Eastern. Conference Finals. The Celtics have been. up, I believe, 81 of the minutes of the. entire series. 81 of the, you know, 102. minutes or whatever the hell it is. So,

they have been playing well, but then. it's the end of the game and they [ __ ]. down their leg. I personally it feels a. lot like 2023 where the Celtics went. down 3 0 to the Heat. They come all the. way back, forced a game seven, Tatum. gets hurt on the first play, the Heat. ended up winning and going to the. finals. I'm not worried. I I have opened. the door of where the panic button sits, but I have not looked at it. I have not. gone in out and I have not thought about. pressing it. But I I I am starting to. wonder, you know, what is the problem.

because they didn't change anything. which I loved and they continued to miss. wide open threes once again. I think you. go back to the well, don't change. anything. You're beating the Knicks the. entire game. They go up in the last two. minutes. It's like, hey, you got to hit. some shots here. Okay, J. Hey, boys. We. need to knock down some shots. Six. minutes straight with no field goals. Not good in basketball, let alone. playoff basketball. Yeah. in the fourth. quarter and you know it's like there's. only so many things people are saying. Joe Missoula what what do you want Joe. Missoula to do you know I I bet he could. sit in the corner and knock down some of.

these wide openen threes but guess what. he's not Joic he's not the player coach. right now like Denver he is just the. coach speaking of that Oklahoma City. just demolishes uh Denver last night had. a record high first half I think I don't. know what record they broke the amount. of points that they had it was like. Oklahoma City decided to remind. everybody who the hell they are and I. know that Oklahoma City was favored to. win the series going in. I know that. Joker and the Nuggets were underdogs. In. my eyes, that's tough to believe just. strictly because the championship. pedigree that is currently in Denver and. in Oklahoma City just woke up last night.

and decided to beat their ass and they. absolutely did. I think the NBA playoffs. have been nothing short of spectacular. Let alone the whole Golden State. situation that's brewing over there. I. mean, there is the NBA the association. is showing up for us right now in the. sports world. We're incredibly thankful. for that. As has the NHL. the NHL right. now, I mentioned it at the beginning of. our. holy sh Thursday announcement. Maple. Leafs, which are a team that is. synonymous with blowing it, okay, are. now up 2 in a best of seven series.

against the reigning defending champion. Panthers. Now, obviously, there's a. chance that Kachchuck, one of the. leaders of the Panthers, is still banged. up with a groin injury that he got at. Four Nations. And obviously, there's. many other stories that you could tell. in hockey on why a team isn't doing. whatever. The Maple Leafs though up 20. on the Panthers. Insane. But that's not. the only story line that is in the NHL. One half of the hammer. Don Cowboys AP. Tone has more. No, we got to go back to. uh Tuesday night game one Capitals and. Hurricanes. The Capitals came out and. they uh they took a one lead, but then.

you know the Canesa came storming back. with two goals by [ __ ] Stankovven. Okay, Stankovven is an absolute dog from. the slot there. Gets one right there. And then Jake Slavven uh gets the. gamewinner in overtime. Canes go up 10. in the series. Okay, so the Canes get a. massive 10-0 series lead against the. Capitals. Now the Canes are supposed to. win this series. Capitals are underdogs, which is once again something that is. tough to believe because of OV, Tom, the. entire team. And Washington has. championship pedigree. This Hurricanes.

in front of those Kaniacs, especially. down there, tough team to handle. Oilers. and Knights is becoming special, too, dude. Yeah. Also on Tuesday night, oh, Tai's Tai's Knights go up 200 with two. Stoner goals. Okay, they're looking. good. 2- 0 at home and then four. unanswered goals by the Oilers uh to put. them up 10 on the series. The Oilers get. one on the road to start the series, which is huge to start there when the. Knights were up 2 on the scoreboard with. two from Stoner. So, yeah, a tough start. for the Knights, but Oilers come roaring.

back to win game one. Yeah, and Mc Jesus. obviously was the guy in the first two. highlights that was doing everything. down there on the right side. them. getting a bat out of the air from the. sideways off the back of the goalie and. it going in. That's tough news. No, I. mean I don't know what Aiden Hill is. doing. I don't know if he's, you know, playing it. It looked like he's playing. catch with a baseball like that. I've. never seen a goalie do that ever, but. hey, it happens. Uh, it really does pay. me though because Stoner was just so. hot. He came out, scores two goals. really hate to see the Knights kind of. uh yeah, I mean, again, I that is the.

first time and probably the last time. that will ever happen in an NHL game, but um you know, it's the playoffs, baby. That's that's what happens. So, we'll see. Uh Knights need to get this. one tonight. Need this game tonight. Yeah, I um I love that. And how about. the Stars, brother? Let's go over to the. other half of the Hammer. Don Cowboys. Bubble Gumpino Mo is really out there. doing some stuff, huh, Paul? guys. Unbelievable hat-tick again last night. Otter stood on his head. This was a.

massive trade the Stars made to get him. Paid him from the Hurricanes. Was on. Colorado to start the season. He's an. all-time playoff performer and he did it. again last night for us. Backto back. hatricks. Is that accurate? Is that what. I read? Oh yeah, he's unbelievable. Nice, wouldn't it? How sweet would that. be? He was he was uh double shifting. last night, too. He was playing with the. fourth line as well. Uh yeah, third. player ever to do the uh back-to back. hat-ticks. Uh and then we just me Tony. just mentioned Logan Stankovven. He uh.

from Carolina scored two goals. That was. that trade. Dallas sent him to Carolina. Dallas got Ranton in back. Both of those. guys working out perfect. Yeah, I like. that. That's a good deal for all. parties. Exact. Everyone's winning right. now. People like that a lot. Uh tonight. we have Warriors Timberwolves in the. NBA. Hurricanes Capitals Oilers Golden. Knights. That'll be at 9:30. uh Oilers. Gold Knights on ESPN 7 o'clock Canes and. Capitals and then Warriors Timberwolves. 8:30. Great night of sport. Great night.

of sport. Let's talk about the NFL have. to this is massive news yesterday. Huge. I was sitting in the middle. I was in a. conference room. Mhm. And then all of a. [Music]. sudden, what the hell's going on? George. Pickins has been traded to the Dallas. Cowboys. Wait a second. The Steelers. receive a 2026 third round pick and a. 2027 fifth round pick. Okay. I don't. know if they're trying to acrue picks or. if this was the best offer that they. were to get, but they send Pickkins and. a sixthrounder to the Dallas Cowboys. And that graphic jersey swap that.

Debbone did there is nasty. I I mean. that is great work there, Debo. Great. work, Debbone. That is a a filthy. picture right there. But George. Pickkins, I thought, me personally, as. soon as DK Metaf gets brought into the. Pittsburgh Steelers, I immediately go, "Okay, this means George Pickkins is. gone." A lot of people are like, "Well, why would that mean that? Now they have. another weapon. Now they got a second. wide receiver. They've been looking for. a second wide receiver. Why would as. soon as they get another wide receiver,

why would they try to get rid of the guy. that they have?" And it's just like, I. think there's a lot potentially going on. in that room. That feels like a tough. room. And you know, on Madden, you don't. have to worry about humans, okay? On. Madden, it's just a rating. In fantasy. football, whenever you're drafting. somebody, you're not drafting the humans. and whether or not they would get along. You're drafting the upside, the. capability. In Madden, it's like what is. their best day? That is their number. Humans becoming a team is the most. important part of a successful football. franchise. I'd assume any sport, but.

definitely in the NFL with the way. things have gone with George Pickkins in. Pittsburgh, adding in DK Mechaf, with. how things were going with DK in. Seattle, that just felt like too much. TNT for me in one particular room when. there's only one football on the field. I assumed GP was going to get traded. I. know that there's a lot of teams that. are very interested in George Pickins, so I assume that would be something that. would be an easy move to get done. Now, allegedly the Dallas Cowboys and the. Pittsburgh Steelers started this. conversation before the draft when Jerry. Jones came out and said, "I got a couple.

substantive moves that I'm looking to. make either before draft, after the. draft, maybe today, maybe tomorrow." And. they go, "What does that mean?" Well, apparently what we have learned now is. Jerry Jones is talking to the Steelers. Was that the first time the Steelers and. he had a conversation? He said, "Where's. the microphone? Where's the microphone? Give me a microphone." Yeah. I just. talked to a guy that can do things. Omar. Con, you ever heard of him? I uh I got a. big move. Has this been the plan all. along for the Dallas Cowboys to bring in. George Pickins? Has the plan been to. move on from George Pickins? How long. has that been the plan? There's so many. more questions, but what I do know is.

George Pickkins is a dog whenever he's. on the field when he wants to be. There's obviously clips and moments from. his career thus far that are going to be. questioned. And if he was to be playing. like the way he plays in the NFL in. college, whenever he'd be going through. the draft, there'd be a lot of people. nitpicking a lot of the decisions that. he made on the field and things that he. said and done off the field. With that. being said, upside through every roof. that you've ever seen. If you can get. him to buy in and if you can get him to. love his team and you can get him in an. offense, Shotty and the boys going to.

have to figure that out down there with. Dak. If you can get him an offense that. he is going to do well in, he has the. chance to be mega star. So, I assume. that the Steelers view this as a win. because they're going to move in a. different direction. And if I'm George. Pickkins, I think I'm pretty excited for. a new start, fresh start as well, especially down there in Dallas. AP. Tone, obviously diehard Pittsburgh. Steelers fan. You thought it was going. to be DK, GP, Frier, Muth, you know, even Warren in there. You thought that. was going to be the case. I think a lot. of people had hopes for that. I think in. the building there was a decision on. would is this sustainable? Is this uh.

sustainable for 18 weeks, 17 games with. the roller coaster that happens. throughout a football season? Yeah, I I. think my whole thing yesterday was that. 2025 Steelers fan me was bummed out. because yes, I wanted to see all those. guys play together. Was it going to work. out? Who knows? Um it was going to be. electric. It was going to be fireworks. Whether it was good or bad, 2025 me was. very excited to see this um this offense. as a whole potentially with Aaron. throwing to these guys. 2026 and moving. forward me thinks it's a very smart. move. They were never going to uh pay.

George, this is he's going into a. contract year. This was his final year. They were never going to pay DK 30 and. then pay George 25 to 30. Um and like we. you said, he was a first round talent. come out. he fell to the second round. because of of some of the stuff that. you've you've heard about George about, you know, showing up late to games and. stuff like that. I just don't think the. Steelers organization wanted to uh deal. with that anymore. Now, like listen, the. the Steelers fan base was not happy at. all yesterday about this. Now, if you.

looked at it with a a level head, you. you could have been like like I was 2026. moving forward, we're not gonna we're. never going to pay this guy. We're gonna. get a third round pick. We now have 12. picks going into the 2026 draft. That is. in Pittsburgh. three third round picks. now in that draft to potentially move. up, you know, get your future. Um, but. you know, just the whole thing, this was. this was always going to be the case. I. think this was the smartest move go. moving forward for the team. I know a. lot of people are pissed about it, but. 2025, were you really going to win the. Super Bowl? Was he going to help you win. the Super Bowl? Maybe, probably not. So,

I think this was the smartest move. Well, I also I I saw a little Aaron. Rogers derangement syndrome, you know, where he he I don't even know if he. knows George yet, but what he likes he's. not even on Steelers. what he likes from. a wide receiver certainly something that. George is not. So Aaron's gonna want him. to be moved. So Mike Tomlin and Omar. Khan and Rooney family said, you know, this guy's not even on our team yet, but. there's a chance that he doesn't like. you. So we're going to There's people. saying that. We are not making that up. That was actually said by people. And uh.

maybe a conversation was said about how. he operates and whether or not it is. still going to be a Pittsburgh Steeler. for the long haul. Like are we gonna pay. him to be a long one? Maybe we can get a. couple pieces for this that can help our. future. But I will say this about George. Pickkins. If he's able to hit that next. level, lock in and everything like that, you're talking about game breaker, game. wrecker. I'm happy to hear the Dallas. Cowboys still have hope that that is the. case and uh hopefully he'll be able to. accomplish that. We have some breaking. news. Crazy. Ladies and.

gentlemen of the Catholic faith. No way. There is a new pope that has been. selected. What? White smoke has come out. of the top of the smoke. stack and uh what out of uh can you. scroll up please? Uh 133 cardinal. electors gathered in the Vatican 16. chapel which obviously we know from the. picture and they have elected the new. pope. He will appear soon at the central. window of St. Peter's Basilica.

Basilica. Wow. So he's just going to do. they like have like songs and then he's. like on the side. Uh can you stay? Yeah, please. So he's gonna he's going to be. here. They're gonna have that empty. window. Yep. Yeah. And then he's just. gonna go pow pretty much start waving. and all the people down there are just. going to go ape [ __ ] Everyone's going. to know who it is. It's me. It's me. P O. P E. You might hit a couple of these. Yeah, exactly. Is he going to be a. thousand years old like all these other. popes have been or how how's this kind. of work? Should we expect a.

2,000-year-old man to roll into this. window later? And uh he's in charge of. now every c he's your boss now. He's a. Catholic boss. Well, I'm not a priest, so he's not technically not my boss. Oh, so he's the boss of every priest. He is. the he is the Who's the boss of you? I'm. the boss of me, brother. Okay. Uh your. Lord and Savior needs Well, that too. That too. But yeah, he he's running the. Catholic church. My guess would be So I. actually we had this conversation this. morning. um everything I'd read that. said like, "Hey, this could be the. longest conclave ever. We got a lot of.

young cardinals who have never been. through this process. We might have. multiple weeks here before we get a new. pope." Nope. Two days in. Wow. They're. like, "Fuck it. We're done with this. We. found our Maybe they knew it was the. guy. It could be. Maybe they knew it was. the guy. Some guy walked in and they. just have it, you know." Yeah. Some guy. walked in at 16 Chapel and they go, they saw him genulect and they were. like, "Oh, boom. That was it right. there." So, how would leadership is what. they're looking for? How's it I would. assume uh stability as well because they.

don't want to put in an old guy and have. the new pope die in like four years. here, 5 years, and then have to do this. whole process again. But from everything. I've read in this particular situation, because there were a lot of young, inexperienced Cardinals, this is just a. political power grab. A lot of, you. know, people backstabbing. Yeah. Could. have been could have been quite a bit. So, we'll see. I'm very They had odds. set on who uh who was kind of the hot. shot. I believe there was there was a. guy from Italy, you know, they favored. the the home hometown hero. Yeah,

exactly. So, we'll see. I'm actually. shocked. I'm shocked we got white smoke. today. This is crazy. Do we know Do we. know who it is before they appear at the. window or is it just like, "Hey, here I. am." And then we Somebody knows who that. guy is, right? The 133 people that. elected it, I think. Yeah. Yeah. And I. think they're probably pretty tight. I. mean, if they're sending smoke signals. to let people know, messages. I assume. there's not a lot of messages getting. out of there. Maybe a carrier pigeon. they'll send out. Maybe break the news. I don't know what it is, but uh congrats. to them finally a new pope. We got We. got our guy. They got They got their.

guy. We got our guy. Dominated the. pre-conclave meetings. Yeah. Just he. came in and just took over. They asked. him, "Hey, what what's your least. favorite part about the church?" Well, and he said there nothing. There's. actually nothing about the church. I. didn't even know that was possible. And. then they asked him to draw up some. verses. Yeah. And what his favorite. parts are. Couple favorite hymns. Yeah. Favorite hymns. What leads to what too? Like, hey, why did you pick this. particular verse on this particular. Sunday when everybody else did this? And. you know, as I was thinking about the.

people that are going to be in my. congregation, I thought they needed to. hear this. They had already heard this. two weeks before. So, I went with this. message. I even sprinkled in a little. John in here. Little John came in. Little John came in here. And I thought. that message really hit home. And the. other 133 were like, "Yeah, that's our. guy." Yeah, it did, brother. Confession. breakdown, you know, as far as you how. do you handle certain situations? What's. your go-to? Probably had had him do like. an elevator pitch homaly like, "Hey, why. why should you be pope? Five minutes. go." And he goes, "We are gathered here.

today. I am a real boy. [Laughter]. We don't mean to mock it, but we know. nothing about the process other than the. fact they send smoke out that thing and. let the world know that there's a new. head of the Catholic Church. Congrats to. whoever this is. And we can't wait to. see you say it's me. Yeah. Uh joining us. now, ladies and gentlemen, not from the. Pope world, surprisingly. What if we. would have had a guest from the from the. Catholic world to let us know how the I.

believe he did go to a Catholic. institution for college. He was a Cardinal. Ladies and gentlemen, joining us now, man who played 13 years. in the NBA, Quon Richardson. by New Pope Q. Rich. New Pope. Brand. new, fresh out. That's awesome, man. I'm just like. y'all. I know nothing about it. I'm. exactly like y'all. I have no clue. I. didn't even know about the white smoke. happening. So that's what's up. Congrats. to him. So at the end of the day, that. is what's up. Uh congrats to new pope. I.

probably pretty big deal. Yeah, it's a. big deal. This is a pretty big deal. We. come the pope. I assume I assume he's. jacked up today. Oh yeah. Okay. So they. they sent out smoke last night that said. we're not done yet. Yeah. Black smoke. No new pope. Okay. So what do they do? They burn tar in there and say, they're. smoking sigs. Okay, let's get back away from the poke. and uh but let's talk about some smoke. Tyrese Hallebertton's got all the smoke. right now. All of it. Now, obviously. this Pacers team's playing very. together. Tyresese Hallebertton is.

obviously playing some of his best ball. he has all season basically. They're up. 2 right now on the number one seed. Cleveland Cavaliers. What are your. thoughts on this Pacers team that you're. watching now that if you go back to. February, hottest team in the NBA? What. are your thoughts on what's happening. right now with this particular team and. this series? Man, they figuring it out. I I I'd be. lying if I said I was I'm not surprised. right now. I'm I'm I'm extremely. surprised to see that they're up 20. I I. mean, I could see them going in there. and getting them a game and splitting. I.

did not expect Indiana to walk into. Cleveland and walk look at look at how. with the old school Sam Cassell Sally. Yeah. Oh Yeah, but I didn't expect them. to go in there and just take both games. and in the fashion they did it in the. comeback. It's like those was like rip. your heart out type moments at the end. of the game. You know what I'm saying? And like how said, what the hell? He. said, he said he said, "Hey, hey, overrate that." I I respect it. I love. what he doing out there. He writing his. own record right now. I think there was. a chance that that tweet was maybe going.

to be overrate these, you know, and then. uh I I don't know. I don't know. I'm. just saying there was a chance. So then. the next game whenever it happens it's. like this is what I was referring to. Almost could have told a story. throughout the entirety of it. Tyrese is. the perfect guy for the NBA too. Like. legitimately he is he's got so much. moxy. He's a nerd, right? He's like a. wrestling nerd, but you get him on the. court so much swagger. He's great at the. game. Loves that he's a part of the NBA. Respects the fact that he's a. professional basketball player. And here.

in Indianapolis, we love him. He's not. the only one on that team though. That. team is filled with absolute dogs and. Carile's got them all bought in. All of. them are bought in. I think that is so. incredibly important. Which leads to. obviously the other series that makes us. say, "Holy. sh Knicks up 20 over the Celtics." Both. games Celtics have massive leads. They. blow them at the end. Both games they. miss an immense amount of three-point uh. shots. And for six minutes in the fourth.

quarter, the Celtics didn't score a. field goal. What the hell's going on? Is. Boston dead? Are they going to be able. to wake up or is this just this Knicks. team is so damn good and they make you. kind of tap out and quit it towards the. end? First and foremost, how you doing, Boston Connor? How you doing? You. feel, buddy? You still I don't know. about that. I'm still I'm still repping. the team. I'm not You still repping it? Yeah. I'm not too worried just yet. I've. not hit the panic button. I got. confidence. No, just like I said with the with the.

Pacer series, man. I'm I'm definitely. shocked that the Knicks went in there. and got both of those games, especially. obviously with, you know, them being. down 20 in both games, but I mean, I I. don't I haven't lost complete hope right. now. I mean, I still feel like the way. the Celtics were able to go into both. games and be up 20, they just got to not. screw it up. You know what I'm saying? Like, when you get up that many points. to go, it's a stat out there where. they've missed 45 wide open threes. That. means you you're at least 6 feet or more.

open. and nobody's within six feet of. you shooting the ball and you 0 for 45. on on on those type of shots. Like you. can't believe that Boston is going to. continue to do that and you can't. believe that Boston is going to continue. to build leads and then just let them. collapse and melt down because Jaylen. Russell has shown if you just get me to. the winning time I could do the rest. If. you just keep it close, if we can close. the gap and get there and get to the. point to where it's actual clutch time, Jaylen Brunson going to do his thing. He's shown and proven that. So if Boston.

the the confidence they giving me is. that they've been able to continuously. build these leads. When you able to. co-op on a team like that consistently, that means that you better than them at. some point. You just doing a crappy job. of keeping the lead and and closing it. out. They got to figure that part of it. out. Definitely. That could be a mental. block though, Q. And and on the flip. side, you're talking about a mental. boost for the Knicks knowing that. they've been able to do this two times. now. There's no there's going to be not. that there ever has been any Quinton in. this Knicks team, especially led by. Brunson. And Jamal Crawford told us last.

week that he was shooting he's been. shooting with uh uh Brunson since he's. like 8 years old, right? Cuz he played. with his dad or whatever. And then you. watch the way Brunson kind of operates. as a guy that grew up in the NBA. It has. to be sweet for him that just the way. people talk about him is like if it's. close in the end, Brunson's going to win. the game. Like that's like the greatest. compliment you can give a competitor. And that is very real with this guy. And. the team knows it as well. What a squad. they have right now, Q. No, they they. got a great collection of guys is.

playing really well together. But as far. as Brunson, his his his mental makeup, like I like Rick Brunson, his dad, OG. Rick, has done a great job bringing them. up. But I think even Rick will say. Jaylen's mindset, like you you can't. like as a as a as a former player or. whoever, you can't just say, "Okay, I'm. going I'm going to make my kid this. way." like he was built, he was born. that way to have this type of mental. capacity to be even kill, to not get too. high, to not get too low, and to be able. to have that that type of focus, to be.

able to go crazy like that when it. becomes clutch time. And the thing. that's impressive to me is that even the. game winners, the shots he hit, you see. guys go jumping on tables and lose it. Like, he he celebrates, but it's like. it's very mild and very chill. He's he's. a like he was born that way. It's hard. to say that I'm going to go build and. mold somebody to have that type of. mindset and that type of mental. toughness. I mean, obviously some of the. things that Rick put him through coming. up that definitely molded and gave him. some of his toughness, but that mindset. and the mental part, I don't know that.

you could just build that. Yeah, I think. the skills and everything and obviously. the game that he can learn from the pros. that he grew up around is certainly an. advantage for him, but dogs, especially. like mamba mentality type dogs, I think. you're born that way. I I don't know if. you I don't know if you can find that. Now, let's go to the West, shall we? And. uh what a dominant first half and then. obviously dominant entire game. Go. ahead, Ty. Yeah, Q Rich. I think after. game one, uh we all assumed like, hey, why is Denver still the underdogs when. they play well, especially with Joic and.

what he's doing like this this team. should be a favorite to knock off the. Thunder with how young they are. But. then last night, we see what happens. when the Thunder kind of play their. agame. They win by 43. When you're. looking at this series after last night, does that type of getright game like do. you think the Thunder are just going to. roll now or do you think uh this one is. still going to go like six or seven. games? I think it'll still be a competitive. series. I don't think I don't. think Last night was aberration. I don't.

think they're going to just keep beating. them by 40 and 30 points, but I I do. think OKC is the better team. Obviously, the record and everything they've done. the whole season shows that. But, um I I. do know that Denver, you know, We just lost him. Yeah, we'll call him. back. Oh man. Yeah, we'll call him back. He was about to get into it there. Had. an interesting service throughout the. entirety of it. It was kind of coming. and going. Yeah. First time. I often. wonder how that happens, you know, cuz. if you have full service at one point. and then you have no service at another. point, is that mean they are throttling.

throttling you a little bit? Satellite. in front of another satellite. Oklahoma. City right now is like, "Oh, of course, of course, soon as you get a chance to. talk about us being great over this. Denver Douglas team, it just cuts off. completely." Isn't that convenient? You. know, and how it all goes. But watching. that game on my phone cuz I was in in. the middle of something. Watching that. number just run crazy. I thought I was. watching like a like, you know, they. have those counters or whatever. Oklahoma City's first half, that number. got real big real quick. They played no. games. None. And it's like, wait a.

second. Are the Oklahoma City Thunder. all the way back to being who everybody. thought they were? And are the Nuggets. going to be able to figure this out? Like normally Joker learns you and then. gets better against you. Here they were. better in the first game than they were. in the second game. Is the third game. going to resort back to what we normally. see out of the Joker or was this just. kind of water finding its level in this. particular series? It feels like Denver. sometimes does like the every other. thing like you wonder if with 86 points. after the first half there was Let's. rest this one a little bit. there was a.

little bit of like a okay may maybe not. not tonight cuz even you know you look. at that Clippers series that was damn. near in every other game uh situation. for Denver as well. So may maybe not too. sure about it, but you know, just like. with the Celtics when you you miss all. those shots like the Thunder, you know, game one, you're going to come back with. a electric performance, but I would I. would expect Jokic to respond pretty. mightily at home in in Denver. Uh I. think they play tomorrow or uh Saturday.

I have faith in the Denver Nuggets. No. doubt. I have faith in the Denver. Nuggets. I have faith in Joker, but I. also love that OKC just woke up. They're. fun to watch. Yeah, they are very and. they're young and they're fun and their. fans are magnificent. I mean the. Oklahoma City fans are great and it's. like this Cleveland Cavaliers team are. they going to wake up all year? They've. been the team that Oklahoma City. Cleveland. Yes, that has been the. conversation like not enough. conversation is about these two teams. because they are the two teams. Now. obviously with Cavs being down 20 it's.

like will the Cavs wake up and become. what they were all season or with the. injuries that they have happening is it. too much? It's like Oklahoma City woke. up. Is this who they're going to be now. for the rest of the time against this. Nuggets team? It's like the. association's throwing they're throwing. some heat right now. Like legitimately, they got some stars showing up and they. got some storylines developing very. quickly here in front of us. What's. funny is the Celtics are are down 2. Cavs are down 2. Oklahoma City's 1-1. The favorites to win the finals are. still OKC, Boston, Cleveland. Those are. those are the top three to win the.

finals still. Um Patriots plus 1300. That's tasty. That's tasty. Good odds. for Indie. Now, I may or may not have. talked to Tyrese. Okay. Mhm. Since game. two dub. obviously gave tons of flowers. I have. to. What a cool moment. Yeah. Like that. had to feel so cool. Yeah. Numer there's. a couple of these now happening for you. where it had to feel like all your Now I. hope his dad, you know, like I hope his. dad enjoyed the hell out of them or. wherever he was. I hope his dad was in.

some, you know, I hope his dad was doing. his dad's thing. I doubt he was on a. couch. I assume he was somewhere there. was energy and he was going crazy. I I. just assume from what we know about. Tyrese's dad, I hope he enjoyed all of. this. But also, it's just game two. Yeah. Yeah. These game seven series. sports, like legit, oh yeah, you can. have this moment today and then [ __ ]. tomorrow and nobody will even remember. game two. It's just like the Pacers. season last year. They get all the way. to the Eastern Conference Finals. They.

lose 4-0 to the Boston Celtics. They. should have won three out of four of. those games. They should not have made. it to the Eastern Conference Finals. They traded for Pasco Seak in the middle. of the season. Nobody's talking about. the Pacers doing anything. They lose 40. to the Boston Celtics. Nobody was. allowed to talk about him. Nobody was. allowed to talk about being successful. So, I just sent a little reminder about. how everybody still thinks you're [ __ ]. you know, and it's just two games, brother. We got to win two more just for. this series. Mh. Then we got another. series. Then we got another series. It's.

like what a magical moment and how. awesome it is. And I think they going. through what they experienced with the. Celtics last year, going through. everything they experienced. I think. they feel like or look like a more. mature team as well, like a more. experienced team obviously because. they've been through the experiences. Yeah. And that and that's what happened. with the Celtics, you know, for them to. win a championship. They went to the. Eastern Conference Finals. They lost in. sevename series. They lost in the finals. to Steph. And then eventually, you know, they go on and win it last year. But. that is why, you know, the Pacers. experience is daunting for all the rest. of these teams, not just the Celtics cuz.

they've been there, but the Knicks, you. know, the Knicks, Bruce said, they. haven't been to the Eastern Conference. Finals since 2000. And all those guys. have played in big games on that team, but still it's it's a it's a different. level, but to what you're saying is. exactly right, like, hey, they're up 2. and sweet. Now, the the pressure is kind. of flipped. Like, as a Celtics fan, I. feel better now than I did before just. because of the conversation. Like now. the conversation before game two before. game two. Yes. Like now the conversation. isn't you know the the Celtics are going.

to sweep this team and if they don't. sweep them if they win 4-1 it's. terrible. Now it's like hey the the. Knicks have to win this. Like the. Celtics they're done. They probably. can't win. There's still even odds but. now the story will be at the end of this. series. Hey the Knicks blew it. Same. with the Pacers. Hey the Pacers blew it. versus you know the Cavs and Celtics. coming back and winning it. So it it is. nice, but the sevename series are. diesel. And that's the difference. between hockey, too. Cuz hockey after a. sevename series, guess what? The other. team that just lost, they're releasing.

their injury report and half their guys. had, you know, broken limbs and. collapsed lungs. In basketball, if you. lose a seven game series, they don't. care if you got a bruised wrist or, you. know, a rolled ankle. Like, they're just. going to talk about how you lost in. seven and then you're on to the next. series. And that's why it's only the. second round. You know, it's even. crazier thinking about that because it's. only going to get better now and that's. why the NBA second round on it really. is, you know, prime time entertainment. Best of seven serieses are tough. Yeah, the normally the better team is going to.

find its way to getting to the win. And. uh at any moment you're still in it. People have come back from being down 3. 0. People have been able to come back. whenever it looked like they've just. gotten killed. And then there's also. just been so yeah, hey, literally. anything can happen here. Go ahead, Z. Well, that's why the the NBA is so much. better in the postseason because I feel. like as like uh if if you don't watch a. ton of regular season basketball, like. those Celt Celtics being up by 20 on the. Knicks, like in the regular season, that. balloons and they end up winning by 35.

points a lot of the time. Like now. that's not the case. It's like, okay, I'll check back in 6 minutes and boom, the Knicks went on an 110 run and like. we got a game again. Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, re-establish a. connection, 13-year NBA, Quinton. Richardson. Rich, sorry that's probably on us, maybe. on you. Who knows? It's on technology. Nonetheless, we're talking about how all. these series best of seven serieses are. insane because Tyrese Hallebertton just. had a massive moment. Ma, he's had a. couple of these now. Just had a massive. moment. But if the Cavaliers come back.

and win the series, nobody's going to. talk about it ever again. That it is. such like a uh hey, you can celebrate. this tonight, but we got to move on. tomorrow type league. I think especially. in the playoffs. Q Rich? Yeah. you know, the news cycle moving. fast, Pat, it's so much it's so much. information out there. So, it it goes. quick and like you said, everything that. that that Burton has done right now. If. they're not able to finish this series. off and complete it, you're right. They. may not talk about it much. It may get. played here or there, but as far as like. the overall credit for it, he may not.

get it, but like that's why you got to. finish out the whole thing. And that's. what makes the seven game series so. interesting because even if you up, the. team is down. They not completely out of. it. You know what I'm saying? can fight. and come back and do different things. and if it is a game seven everybody know. that's the the best two words in sports. right there. So any anything happens in. that game. Yeah. Super Bowl for sure. Best two and then you know game seven. Nonetheless, I understand what. you respect. Resback. Okay. I got that. in you right quick. Yeah. Yeah. You. slid. Yeah, I'm listening. Yeah, I hear.

you. Uh let's go to the West. There's. obviously a massive storyline. developing. Uh last question here, Q. And we appreciate you getting back on. Go ahead, Tone. Yeah, Q. Warriors. obviously get game one against the T-. Wolves, but they got to give up Steph. because of that. Steph with a I believe. they're saying a grade one hammy for. him. He's definitely not playing in game. two. They're not sure when he will be. back. Um, you know, the other guys, Buddy Hild, Jimmy Butler, they all. Draymond, they all stepped up in game. one. Do you think the the Warriors can. still get this series if Steph uh does. not come back? But I assume they're.

probably if if without Steph, they're. not getting a championship, though. Yeah, I I'm nervous right now, man, because the hamstring. I knew exactly. what he did as soon as he did it and how. he held it, how he tried to go and then. he saw that he couldn't. I knew exactly. what he did. So, for me, I mean, I don't. want to say that the that the Warriors. can't win this series, but they. shouldn't like the like Minnesota is a. better team. And now with Steph being. out, it it's not even a question. So, if. Minnesota and and Ant-Man is who who. they want to who they are or who they.

say they are, it shouldn't be it. shouldn't be a question. They should win. this series. I don't know how many games. it should take them, but I mean, even in. game one, they lost that game because. they just shot the ball unbelievably. bad. Turned the ball over crazy. It they. they didn't look like themselves, but I. don't see the Warriors being able to. pull this off without having Steph. I. mean, when they had Steph, I had belief. And I don't want to count Jenny Buckets. and Draymond and the rest of them guys. out, but it if we being real with. ourselves, it it shouldn't be likely. Like, you know what I'm saying? Not to.

say that it can't happen. You got to. play the game, but if Minnesota handles. the business the way they supposed to. and the way everybody should expect them. to, they should win this series. Let's. talk about Batman being Jimmy Butler. again. You know, yeah, you know, they. did the Batman Robin and everybody say, "You're Batman. There's two Batman's. here." It's like Jimmy Butler has a. chance now to lead a brand new uh squad. up there in Golden State. Excited to. watch them, especially play tonight at. 8:30 on. TNT. Timberwolves are favored by 10 and.

a half. Okay, so they're thinking the. same thing that Q Rich is thinking. We. shall see how that ends up rolling. All. right, last question. Who's going to win. uh the NBA title on this day? On this. day, holy [ __ ] Thursday. [Music]. on the eighth day of May. Who who who. wins? I'm I'm I'm I'm still rolling with the. Celtics, man. I know they down. Wow. I'm. still still until they show me until. they get put out. I I still think. they're the most talented team and they.

got the they got the experience and they. the defending champs until you knock. them off on the road with them. All. right, we appreciate the hell out of you. for joining us. Thank you for calling us. back through the technical difficulties. You crushed it per usual. Co-host of the. knuckleheads podcast, ESPN analyst. Ladies and gentlemen, Quinton. Richardson. Yay. And now let's pivot to the NFL. Obviously, some big news. How do we get. here? What does it mean? A man who's on. vacation, but will answer a call right. before a golf trip. Ladies and. gentlemen, senior insider for NFL. Network, Ian Rapaore. Uh, after golf, I had a lesson today,

actually. So, are we getting better or. when you were texting me? No. No. I. mean, everything is fine. The driver's. going that way. Uh, and I'm allegedly. fixing it, but it just means every shot. I hit is horrible, so it's whatever. No, you gota aim left, brother. The way you. fix that is you just aim left. If you. got a slice and you're a righty, you. just turn towards the trees on the left. side and you let that son [ __ ] play. right back into where you need it to be. You just go ahead. I mean, I'm I'm. aiming on the other hole, man. That's. embarrassing for how much you play.

You're telling, you know, that's like. what children deal with, right? Like. like people that don't the super slices. don't play. Yeah. Every once in a while. telling me. Yeah. That's tough. Has it. always been this way or just this year? Uh middle of last year and I was like, it's fine. I'll work it out. And then I. just started. People think I'm a good. driver because they see where the balls. land, but it's really cuz I'm aiming. like two holes away and the ball goes. down the right side of the fairway. So, end result is okay. Doesn't matter, brother. It doesn't that that end result.

is all we're looking for in golf. Yeah. That is literally the entire purpose of. golf. No pictures on the score. So, what. do you do? You aim way left. That thing. ends up being 215 yards on the right. side of the fairway. 60 260. No way. 65. Yeah. So, you're 30. without the slice. Yeah. You're losing. distance if you're aiming that far. That's a lot. No way. I mean, swing. speed is like 105. I should be hitting. it far, but instead I hit it like all. the way that way. Wow. I'm working on. it, though. I know. It's a It's Again,

people think you got those little clubs. How do how how do you so what. is do you have you been fitted for your. obviously you're fitted what type of. club? Oh yeah I got PXGs they're. awesome. Every other club is great. I am. just crushing five iron right here. Yeah. that slice that you got just goes on. kind of mean and on and on and on and on. and on and on. I'm going to figure it. out. One of these years I'll figure it. out. Well I think PXG has a bunch of. things that like will cheat your slice.

for you. Like in there things that like. a driver will put a little bit more. weight in. Yeah. They had like a draw. weight for you. Yeah. Why don't you do. that? I'm trying to get the swing right. Oh, okay. You need to just accept who. you are, brother. That's what you need. to do. No, it's a lot more fun that way. No, I I'm work again today. I had a good. hour session. I didn't fix anything, but. I've identified some things. Scotty. Sheffller was on game day sitting right. next to me. And now he's a good golfer. So good at golf. And I got his tip. I I.

got his his tip basically. Soon as game. day ended, we're sitting. Yeah. I didn't. pause, I guess. I got his golf tip. Got. his golf tip in this entire thing. What's so funny? Yeah. Relax. And you. gave the face first. You knew what I was. talking about. You're really You're kind. of excited over there. The uh So, so. Shuffler's right next to me. Okay. Shuffler's right next to me. Game day. ends, but there's like a 30-se secondond. awkward time where the camera's on. something. show's not over, but it is. kind of can't stand up. And I'm like,

I'm not letting him out of here without. getting at least something. Yeah. So, I. literally grabbed uh I think I had a. Sharpie and I go, "So, I'm trying to do. and then boom, square this thing up and. then I'm rolling." He. goes, "Don't Are we off? Don't do that.". And I'm like, "Aren't I trying to square. that?" Right? I'm trying to square that. thing. No, don't ever do that again. He. goes, "Just swing whatever's natural to. you. Just whatever your natural swing. is, just swing your natural swing." I.

was like, "Well, my natural swing is. boom." He goes, "Do that." And I'm like, "Well, then I'll slice it." He goes, "No, then just change your footwork or. wherever you're saying." And it's like, "Just do whatever is natural to you. Anytime you change what your natural. swing is, it's not going to be uh your. best swing." And I was like, "Scotty, that's genius." So, I take that thing up. to his golf s. Mhm. Basically, Scotty. told me just [ __ ] put the club in my. hand. Yeah. If I make contact, this. thing's going to do what it's going to. I'm looking like you. I mean, like three. things going way right. Obviously, I'm.

like, well, I'll move my feet then. I'll. open some of the nothing. I'm whiffing. on it. It's like, Scotty, I think you. think this is a lot easier than it. isn't. But I think that is Scotty's. mindset cuz I'm just swinging. But his. swing is literally since he's a kid, they've been telling him this is your. your swing. I don't think he fully. understands that I'm an amateur. Well, but but also like this is why these guys. who are like unbelievably talented. struggle as coaches because it's like. can you just do what I do and you're. like no I cannot don't ever do that. Don't do that again. Like what ain't I. trying to I'm rolling over you. Don't.

ever do that again. Come a pocket. Okay. Thank you Scotty. Uh let's talk. football. George Pickins is a Dallas. Cowboy. Is this what Jerry Jones was. referring to before the draft when he. said, "I'm up to something here. I got a. little something going on. I'm thinking. about two substantive trades or whatever. it is. Substantive. Substantive. Substantive trades. Uh maybe before the. draft, maybe after the draft. She had a. puppy next year. Who knows? There's. something coming. I'm cooking it. That. is what he was talking about this entire. time. And when did the Steelers decide. they were going to move on from George. Pickkins, you think, and send him.

anywhere, let alone to the Dallas. Cowboys. All right. First, the Steelers. part of it. Um so they they trade for DK. Medv. Obviously, big trade. Kind of beef. up their receiving core. And you know, if you look at it, it's like teams. rarely have like two great great. receivers. It's hard, right? I mean, the. Bengals do, but look at what it took for. the Bengals to have those two and then. paid both of them. Usually what teams do. is they have one great one and other. young ones or complimentary because it's. like to allocate that much resources,

it's a challenge. You can do it, but. it's a challenge. And so it seems the. Steelers wanted to hang on um to George. Pickkins. They wanted to keep George. Piggin, but there was a price where it's. like, all right, at some point this is. worth it, right? Because if they weren't. going to pay him, which by trading him, they made it clear like they're they. were not looking to pay this guy the. extension price, then it's like if he. leaves as a big-time free agent, he's. worth a third round pick compensatory. So they basically lock that in now and.

they trade him to the Cowboys who were. looking since you're right this was. before the draft. Actually thought this. was going to get done before the draft. and like I I thought cuz usually teams. want to do it for the draft picks then. they make the draft picks and then like. that's your that's your trade. Didn't. get done for whatever reason. The. Cowboys weren't able to get a receiver. Like if if Tetro and Mcnone was there at. 12, maybe this trade wouldn't have. happened. I think it probably wouldn't. have. But they didn't get the receiver. they wanted. They make the trade, get a.

big receiver, too. It's a gamble. It's a. gamble, but big time big time talent for. the Cowboys. George is so good whenever. he's playing. You know, it's just. everything else. Are they able to get. him to buy in? New head coach, first. time head coach now in Dallas with him. on the team. It's something you would. have to monitor. we will as football. fans. But if him and Dak get on the same. page and he rolls down there as a Dallas. Cowboy, which he might feel more. comfortable as a cowboy than as a. Steeler, it's like George Pickkins has a. chance to be mega star. Prime time.

George Pickins every week is what the. Dallas Cowboys are. It's like there's a. chance GP becomes a mega star here. Mullet is his agent, so there's a chance. he gets paid a mega amount of money as. well. I mean, go ahead. The whole thing. is a little bit funny because Jerry. Jones went and did the whole like I. don't know Micah Parson's agent and then. it's like all right like well Pickkins. got the same agent. I don't know. He's. one of the, you know, most big-time. agents the NFL. I assume he'll figure it. out eventually. Jerry Jerry definitely. knows who Mulligetti is. He's he's the.

guy that signed the Deshun Watson 200. million guaranteed deal. He was probably. very mad about that. Oh yeah, I would. assume that's what Muletta does. That's. Muletta football. And George Pickins has. an opportunity here to change the. trajectory of his career and his life. If you have one great season on prime. time, what 10, 11 times? Yeah, you have. a chance to do it all. So, I hope it. works out for George. I hope it ends up. working out for the Steelers there. Now, let's move to a couple other. conversations that still need to be. sorted. Connor has a question for you. Yeah, Rashi, you mentioned the Bengals. there with T. Higgins and Jamar Chase,

but the other guy in that kind of trio. that was talked about this off. seasonason was Trey Hendrickson. Is. there any update on that front? It feels. like everything's gone quiet since we. last heard from Trey about the entire. situation and the lack of communication. from the uh Bengals front office. Yeah. So, I think the everything going. quiet was probably by design on all. parties, right? Like he did the. interview with you guys which was really. like very very good, expansive, excellent journalism. Y I mean it was.

well for the first time in the whole. week journalism did not finish second. finish first that interview. Um, it was. numerous weeks ago. Journalism was. nowhere. Just you you tried your best. there. Sovereignty did its thing. All. Yeah, I get it. Yeah. Yeah, we get it. Journalism losing the sovereignty. We're past that. He won't Sovereignty. won't run PNA. So, we got no Triple. Crown. No Triple Crown, which you got to. Pat Ford did a good job of of writing. the calendar. You got to give a little.

more time. Let it breathe a little bit. so you get the best horses in the best. Let sovereignty breathe. Let Sovereign. Let Sovereigntine stood. Let's let. Sovereign live a little after winning. the Kentucky Derby instead of saying, "Hey, hope you're happy. That's 2 hours. Get your ass ready. We got preg coming. up." You want him to go on vacation? He's a horse. He's supposed to run. Start around a little bit. You're a. derby champion. The old horses, I mean,

they're rolling over in It's a modern. generation. There's a lot more business. opportunities nowadays than back in the. 1920s. They're rolling over in their. glue thinking about this right now. Oh, you're telling me journalism would have. shown up if they die. They don't make. them like they used to. The old. generation was the greatest generation. I understand. They said secretary was. smoking sigs in between the regular. I. understand what you're saying. We have more analytics now. We have more. fun now. We have more opportunity now. Let sovereignty live a little bit before.

you got to get back out there and win. freak nasty in front of a bunch of drunk. people in Baltimore. They'll run across. the top of the porter johns. They don't. want to let sovereignty run drunk across. the top of porter johns cuz just won the. Kentucky Derby. Let sovereignty live. Okay. Journalism died sovereignty could. live and now we don't. Anyways, they've. ruined our gray sport back when men were. men and horses were horses. Now, now. they're now they're taking time off. It's ridiculous. It's sad. I don't like. the rest. No. Okay. I It was ruining the.

NBA there for a little. It was. I like. it when I have it though, just so we're. clear. Yeah. You're always having rest. We know. That's the good part. Yeah. Actually, you interrupt your rest to go. do like golf instructions and then, oh, I need more rest. Let me send my kids. into the woods for 10 months. Yeah. We. You love rest. But speaking of rest, can. we get the rest of the story with Trey. Hendrickson? What's going to happen? Yeah. Trey Hendrick. So I think that was. by design that everything went quiet. because usually when like he made his. point I think it was received very.

received. There has been some. communication uh between the Bengals and. Trey Henderson since that interview. since the draft like there have been. talks. I think he you know I think you. know picked a uh Jamar Stewart off the. edge. I think he understands that. Uh I. think they want to do a deal. Now, a. trade, I would never rule out a trade. because it's the NFL and as we learned. yesterday, trades could happen literally. at any moment, including like, I don't. know, 1:00 am or whenever that trade was. basically done. Um, but I I think they. want to keep him. I think they're going.

to make moves toward they haven't yet. The Bengals sometimes function maybe. different, maybe a little slower than. some organizations, but they do want to. keep him and do a deal. Got it. Okay, quick question here. We only have a. couple seconds, a couple minutes here. Tone has it for you. Yeah, Rap before. the draft, another one of those names. that could be traded, could be cut. Uh. was Dallas Gddard coming out of the. Eagles, uh just came out that he. restructured his deal. What was what. went into all that? Uh so they had a. couple trade offers around the time of. the draft or maybe during the draft and. the Eagles, they kind of do it, right?

Like I what I believe is they went to. him and they were kind of like, "What. would you think?" and his decision was. essentially go somewhere else or take a. little bit of a pay cut and keep the. band back together. He chose to take a. pay cut. I believe I think he went from. 14 to 10. That's right. Yeah, 14 to 10. And he can earn a little more in. incentives, but he stays and he has a. chance. So, no extension, which is a win. for him because if he goes out and plays. well, stays on the field like he can,

then he probably cashes in again. But. new deal, not going anywhere. Philly. keeps it together. Okay, Derek Carr. Jane Slater wrote a bunch of updates. He. found out his shoulder was hurt once he. started working out again. That's why it. took so long. The Saints are trying to. figure out what they want to do. Derek. Carr contemplating surgery, not surgery. Long tweet. Yeah, long I I mean through. it all. What is the We have one minute. literally. What do you think the Derek. Carr situation is? They're all trying to. figure it out still. I believe Derek. Carr would like to not have surgery. I. believe he would like to rehab, get this.

thing right, get back on the field for. week one, which my understanding is. still at least a possibility, but. there's been no like firm like he's not. having surgery, he's good to go, or he. is having surgery. And if he has. surgery, it's major potentially not. playing next season. Like that's what. nobody wants. So I believe he is doing. what he can now to try to get back on. the field for week one and we will see. where it ends up. Tyler Shuck, Louisville, starting quarterback,

potentially starting quarterback of the. New Orleans Saints. Excited to see how. they didn't see him at the derby. Hey, that's cuz he's been working, okay? Like. you need to start doing. Maybe give us a. little bit more information. Maybe break. some news. Okay. Jeez Louise, I'm. trying. I'm trying. Throw that hat in. the fireplace. Yeah, cool hat. Get rid. of that. Trying to get the what? Sucks. Ladies and gentlemen, the sand. hour two is on the other side. Goodbye. All roads leading to Eugene and I can't. help but say.

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The NFL has some trades taking place in. the middle of an offseason and kind of a. dead time while the insiders are golfing. and doing their [ __ ] makes you go. holy shite. We're on Holy shite Thursday. And. speaking of holy, there's a new pope. We get it. Amen. We. named the show today. Holy. Sh because of what was going to happen. in the sports world. We had no idea. there's going to be some actual holy. [ __ ] that is happening in the world.

today. New Pope has been decided. Congrats to whoever the hell that is. Can't believe it. Got it. That Pope. mobile's got a new uh owner of the keys. Okay. That 16 chapel now has a new boss. The the priests all over the world have. somebody else that's going to be telling. them what to do. Mhm. And uh a dream has. come true for somebody that uh has. committed their life to the good word. from the Lord. Hell yeah. Yeah. Is that. a good descriptor of what just happened? Yeah, I think so. I mean, we may you you.

don't know. We may have a completely. different mass two weeks from now. Really? So this new pope has a chance to. go remix. We are going elsewhere. Absolutely. Typically we're leading off. with the gin and juice. Yeah, sure. Communion right from the start. Yeah, we're leaning off. Let's get a Let's go. ahead and get a little start. Get a. little, you know, let's have a happy. hour and start this entire thing a. little bit. You know, do you want the. body of Christ? Hell yeah. Do you think they're going to. do that a little bit? Is there is there. a chance? Uh there's a chance. There's a.

chance that is what the Pope has the. capability of doing. Yeah. I don't think. it happens a whole lot because mass has. been pretty much mass, you know, my. entire life. So, but uh I'm I'm of the. understanding the pope can basically do. whatever the hell he wants when it comes. to the Catholic. What if this particular. pope has had a bad knee for his entire. life and he said, "I'm about we too. much. We're not kneeling anymore. We're. not doing it. We'll do it one time. Okay. We'll kneel for the Lord. We'll. certainly we don't need it to be every. other song and dance the verbiage. They. can change like the words like they.

better not. That's gonna be one my one. thing for the Well, may the Lord be with. you and also with you. That hasn't. changed. But wait. Yeah, exactly. Wait. till you know it's been maybe three or. four years since you've been to mass and. you go back at Christmas or Easter or. something like that and you don't know. any of the goddamn words anymore. You. can't say that. Well, I know. But the. way we're talking right now like an. [ __ ] because you're trying to, you. know, be at mass and it's like that guy. hasn't been here forever. He doesn't. know what's going So maybe the new pope. though does want to expose the kind of.

fugay Catholics that only come and go. maybe Easter Christmas and then whenever. they have to show maybe they maybe this. new pope is your worst enemy brother. Maybe maybe he's changing everything. That's fine by me cuz what what are some. of the things that would have been. changed because I'm not a a Catholic. Uh, I know one of the things that I read. was like, you know, kind of. reintroducing Latin uh back into the. mass a little bit because like a lot of. masses like a while back and like if you. like I don't like that the dollar is. being kind of pushed out of some places.

Exactly. And I don't like that the. English language, the one that I. understand is getting pushed out of this. entire thing. That's what's happening. Or we all going to get more. sophisticated and learn Latin maybe. That's how like so like if I don't know. about Tim it may have been like when he. went to high school like when my parents. were in high school like they there were. certain masses that were in all that. still like in like the ' 70s you know so. like that that has been a very popular. thing but I think it's more uh it's more. like bigger picture stuff with like how. the Catholic Church is going to operate. like because typically the arch dascese.

like around the country and the world. like they kind of dictate how the masses. go and how they're going to operate but. like anytime there's, you know, these. big time uh scandals and things like. that, it's, hey, how how's the pope. going to respond to this? How are we. going to get uh, you know, our marching. orders for what we're supposed to do. writ large? So, we'll see. He may change. the mass up. He may not do anything. Uh, the eye paper is currently streaming. live over there. Uh, crowds have. gathered to find out who's the P. And,

uh, I don't know what's going on. I. don't know what the convos are. I don't. really know this world much, but I know. it's a big deal. White smoked out of the. smoke stack today when it wasn't. expected for another few weeks. And. people have come from Porto Gal all the. way over to Rome to celebrate the hell. out of the next poll. There is a. Cardinal from New York in attendance. I. saw a tweet he had this morning and he. basically said like, "I'm not going to. be able to talk to you guys for a long. time." Uh, no wonder the Knicks are. winning. It's horseshit. It's possible.

It's possible. So, we we do have some. representation over there, which is. nice. But like you said, I mean, everyone's kind of just waiting on. baited breath to see who this guy's. going to be. Yeah, I'm excited. Maybe. change the Pope mobile, too. Uh, so I. believe the previous pope after he died, he did give that Pope mobile away to I. can't remember who it was. May have been. like his home country, like a village or. something. So, I think we are getting a. brand new Pope mobile. I'm sure they. have a couple new Pope mobile, new pope. plane, I assume. Get a young one. Get. like a Lambo and just just add a little.

layer to it. Yeah, cuz it's hard to get. in and out of those. Old pups. Wouldn't. be able to get in and out of. Lamborghinis and stuff like that. Get. one of these young pups. It's like, hey, let's make this thing sick. I mean, we. we go the other way. Yeah. What about. some American muscle? Yeah. Monster. truck. Bigfoot. Bingo. Rebel Ram. Could. you imagine? Oh, maybe a Rebel Ram. truck. 2800. 2500. 2500. We're not 2,800. yet, but maybe if the Pope puts his ass. in it, might might be up there 2,800. But yeah, 2500. You're talking about the. rebel ram truck. Could you imagine the.

pope in his uh gown? Sure. I don't know. what it regalia stepping up into that. staple robes. Excuse me. Okay. Yeah. Have a little respect, please. Guys went. to Catholic school his whole life. Jeez. Louise. A long time ago. Hey, God bless. Congrats to the Catholics. A lot of. Catholics. Obviously, I'm Irish and uh. grew up in an Italian. The Catholics are all in. You know, the. Catholics are all in. And they got a new. uh boss and uh we can't wait to see who. it is. One half of the hammer Don.

Cowboys AP Tony is here. The talk table. was here at Boston Conor at Tai Schmidt. joining us live from Manatican, Ohio. A. man who has really kept an eye on this. entire thing. Mhm. Yes. He's college. football national champ Super Bowl. champion. Ride Cup winner. Ladies and. gentlemen, AJ Hawk. AJ, do you have a favorite for who's. going to pop up in that window as the. next boat? Uh, I don't know if I have a. favorite, but I did it did make me. wonder when I watched you kind of show. what it will look like when he steps on. that balcony, you know, when you just. pop up like, "Oh, I'm the new guy." Has. Have any of these new popes ever been. booed by the crowd? I would imagine it's.

universally celebrated when they first. announce it. Yeah, they probably think. you're going to hell. You boo the next. pope, right? He's like definitely a baby. face. You know how Raj comes out with. firefighters and a military and legends. and kids and everything like that. I. don't think the Pope has to because he's. coming out with God, right? That's kind. of what that is kind of what he's coming. out with. Yeah. You probably have to go. back to Joseph Ratzinger. He was a pope. a couple uh couple popes ago and people. didn't love him when he got elected, but. you know that's that's kind of the name. of the game. That's Ratzinger football. That's Joe Ratzinger. Yeah. What did he. did he change anything? Did he add more.

wine to the shots or was it uh did he do. any of that type of stuff? Can we get. bigger. chalicees? Bigger bodies. Okay. Oh, I. think Yeah, bigger chalicees and bigger. bodies as well. Yeah, maybe like a like. a Ritz cracker size. I'd be in for that. Be cool. A little larger. Maybe pee and. bar too if you so please. Yeah. Little. pee bar on there. That's not a bad idea. I mean, what a thing. Do we know where. Rogers is right now? He might have been. in there. He might be the How do we How. do we know the conclave? Is that what.

that was? Is that what that ring? Have. we got any clarity? Is that a Pope ring. that he was wearing down there at the. Kentucky Derby? Have you got any clarity. from your friend Aaron Rogers? I have. not I don't know if you guys saw or not. I froze up for a second. I don't know if. you guys did. I have I have not had any. communication with this situation. I. really did not. I did see you freeze. Uh. if that might it must be on our side. because Q Rich was frozen as well in the. first. If this is going to happen to you. for the entire time, we'll let you know. But you just know that we can hear you. clearly the entire time. This happens. for me whenever I'm at RAW. You know,

there will be like a glitch, a frozen. screen. I can't see anything, but you. guys can hear everything I'm saying. So. then I have to like then I'm wondering, am I on air right now? Am I not on? Do I. look stupid? Do I sound stupid? We'll. let you know if we can't hear you. Uh, visually though, it appears today you're. probably going to be frozen a couple. different times. Make sure you don't. look stupid, AJ. Oh, don't get caught. You know, any. of those. Don't be doing any of that. Uh, joining us now, ladies and. gentlemen, is a man who is a Emmy.

winner. Never forget it. Never forget. this man is an Emmy winner. Nope. Was a part of changing the course of. morning television for everybody, not. just in the sports world. now works for. ESPN. He's an insider. He's an analyst. He's a pundit. He's a friend. He's a. networker. Ladies and gentlemen, from. the Draft. Spectacular, Peter Shreger. Y, how you doing, man? I'm good. Uh, I am. amazed at the lack of insider prowess.

journalism on the on the on the Pope. beat. Like, how does nobody have. anything there? There are millions of. people looking for this answer. There's. not a single insider who devotes their. time to being like, I got the answer. I'm going to break it. I'm watching on. my timeline. Everyone just throwing out. names. And Petro Perolin, big. favorite dog. Luis Antonio Tagel got a. big fan base. Um, Matteo, Matteo Zuppy.

Oh, Zuppy's a dog. They said, I'll tell. you this. I'll tell you this. I've been. texting with Mel Kyper. We both have. Shador number one. All right, let's go. Let's go. If Shador was the pope, I. think we would all be nonsurprised. Uh I. appreciate you doing a little research. on who's going to be in the pope because. I don't think that is, you know, necessarily in your world there. The um. the thought of those 133 voters not. being leakers. You know, insiders only. work if there's a leaker. And uh I think. there's probably some passage in there.

somewhere, and that's a big book, the. Bible somewhere. You do not tell. insiders anything. I I think that's. probably pretty th signals, brother. Let. alone texts and things like that. Although I did, you would think one of. these one of these guys in the, you. know, who's up for it. One of them has. an agent who's also in cahoot with one. of the reporters and is just feeding. them info. Like, you would think at. least one an agent has a good agent. who's like, I'm going to put this out. there, kind of test the waters. Nothing.

Not a nothing. You presenting the idea. that one of these cardinals has an agent. is so funny to think of because what if. there's battling of agents in there for. the pope? There's only one insider in. this business and that's Jesus of. Nazareth, baby. No doubt. You think he. knows? He knew, right? Is he the one. that makes a decision? What are they. doing? So So whenever they're in there, they're all like, "How's it how's it?". They looking for They take votes, right? Don't they take votes on who gets it? Shs, I would assume Strakes knows. No, it's a five on five pickup game and. whoever's got the most points. Have you.

seen those? Yeah. Have you seen those. monks play who? Oh, yeah. Monks can. hoop. Monks can really hoop. I assume. these younger popes got game a little. bit. Without a doubt. All right, let's. uh let's check. So, who's your favorite? It sound like you were reading off the. favorites. Who are they? Well, Parin's. everyone's pick, but I tell you what, I'm looking at Peter Erdo. He's kind of. like a lower ranked guy right now. Not. I'm a big Erdo fan, so I'm going Peter. Erdo. Okay. Good luck to Peter Erdo and. all high ceiling. Yeah, high ceiling. Nowhere near what he could be. Yeah.

Huge up. All right, let's talk about. huge upside. We just They just open the. curtains, ladies and gentlemen. We have. the answer. We have the answer. Let's. [Music]. go. It's the one with the red hat. Is. that who it is? Holy [ __ ] It's him. Let's hear. that. No audio. Okay. Can't get audio. Is that the new pope? The one in the. middle? I thought No, I thought he had a.

a bigger um They're announcing a bigger. hat. Yeah, I think they're lower. Look. at that microphone the guy's holding on. the left. It's like a Bob Barker Price's. right microphone but like Yeah. Here we. go. And. now standing at. [Applause]. 5'7. We have some audio.

Oh, we. need Dominoes. He's from Boston, I think. So, yeah. In. a primo, Boston. name. Oh yeah.

Is that who it was? Desame Chevu. Is. that it off? No, I think it's the name. right before they open the door. Couldn't agree more with what he said. I. think he's just listing a bunch of. people. You know, I'm fired up right. now. Here we go. Here he comes. Fat. Oh, there it is. There's the window, I. assume. Oh [ __ ]. Zoom in. I paper. Shout out to the eye. paper on YouTube. You just follow along. for everything we could possibly need. They're setting up flags up there. It. appears celebratory. What if he comes on.

double guns? Is it going to happen right now? Holy. [ __ ] There's the crew. The boys. The. boys. The boys. The boy. These are boys. Upset they didn't make it. No. The boys. are there. A flag has been hung. Here we. go. See the t-shirt cannon. The smoke. was smoking. If there is a t-shirt. canon, we will certainly work. celebrate. It's a beautiful red. That is.

a good red. Is that some sort of. cardinal red? It's cardinal. A lot of people saying an American pope. coming. Shut up. Y from Chicago is what. the internet's saying. An American pope. in 2025. Spinning a basketball on his. finger. Is Jordan. Is his name Michael. Jordan? Can you imagine if it was I mean, how. does America win this one? I'm pretty. pumped up. If we don't where in the. middle comes out doing a comes out doing.

a Tik Tok video. That's right. Trying to get that younger demo. Got. people climbing statues. I still think. Rogers is coming out. There's a chance. I still think it. They. all look like they're ball fans. Do they. know? Do they boo if it's an American. pope? I That's what we talked about. earlier. Like has there ever been a. boot? Look at that. What a setup. All. the boys up there. That's what they're. saying right there. Shut up. All the. boys. Next time we should be up there. Yeah, we should. So they're just.

priests, these guys. Yeah, these guys. are just run-of-the-mill priests, correct? Our guys up there are cardinals. who used to be priests. Yeah, they have. elevated in the church. So there's been 266 popes. I guess this. could potentially be the first American. pope of all time history. Don't Don't. hold your breath. Yeah. Yeah. Everybody. on the internet is saying I even have a. name. I just had a name dropped. Mr. Poss. Don't tip fix. Do not tip.

When's he coming out? Will they do a USA. chant when he walks out or not? Oh yeah. I'm going to lose my mind if this guy's. American. That will be better come out. of the bull's intro. Yeah, legit. We could go out the cot. [Music]. When's this going to happen? They really. take their time. I forgot about the. Catholics. They build suspense. That's what they do. Is it breaking? Yeah, I know. It's real.

Ladies and gentlemen, for the first time. in the history of. Catholicism, I believe what we are. waiting on right now is for an American. lad to walk out to a window and say, "It's me. I'm your next P O P E. Congrats to Mr. Prio. Yeah, that is. correct. Post. Wow. We did it. USA. USA. USA. USA. Hey, he went in there with.

Moxy. We knew he had it. We knew he had. it. We knew he had the ability to walk. into a room and turn everybody into his. favor. We knew he had the experience to. say, "Hey, listen. I've been doing this. Catholicism in Chicago for a long, long. time. I've been able to reach everybody. that I've ever been able to speak to. I. love the book that we're reading. The. Bible's the greatest. But let me talk. about our kind of rituals a little bit. I got some ideas. I got a little flavor. I got a little spunk. I got a little fun. in this entire thing. I'm from the. United States of America. Yeah, sometimes we ruin stuff. But also, we.

make things better. First time 266. popes. We got an American in there. That's crazy. Red, white smoke in blue. I love everything about what's going on. over there, Ty. I don't know anything. about Catholicism other than the fact. that Jesus Christ, he's the one. Die for. our sins. And you guys are in uh a lot. of hardwood in there. Yep. A lot of. hardwood. A lot of big stained glass. windows. Okay. We're pretty committed, I. believe. Very committed uh into the. Catholic religion, you know. Very. committed, right? An American guy. What. does this mean? Is this a big deal or. not? Uh yeah, it's a massive deal. So,

Notre Dame is going to win the national. championship or what? Probably. Yeah. I. would say tomorrow their odds should, you know, skyrocket. I just assumed that. in my lifetime and probably in my kids'. lifetime and maybe even in their kids'. lifetime that we would never see a pope. from the United States. It's just not. the way it works. Look at us, USA. Shrekes. I didn't know this was. happening until this morning. And now. I'm super pumped. We win again. And he's. from Chicago. Huge long shot. Not on. anyone's board. Um out of Chicago, went. to Villanova. Okay. And then was at.

Catholic Theological Union and then the. Pontification University of St. Thomas. Aquinus. Why? Uh, 69 years old. I'm into. this guy. This is Robert Francis Post. I'm into him. I like this guy. Hey, 69. He's still got a good 20 from the. previous post. He's got maybe 40, 50. more years. All right. Congratulations. to America. Good pick over there. Good. pick. Cardinal's got it right. What's he. going to do first 100 days now? You. know, what's his first 100 days? We We. need that laid out. We want to see it. I. I'm sure he's ready. Villainova guy. So,

is he going to go, you know, do. something for the Wildcats? You got to. win. He played for Jay Wright for he. dropped the buck for Jay Wright. Yeah, smacks the wood. I mean, he's not scared. to do that. Let's talk about football. Obviously, uh I think we've done enough. Pope talk for probably the year. Yeah, we did it. Good. I can't wait. We got. some good singers in there. Pope Leo, look at you. Don't tip the pick. That. was hysterical. Okay, let's get to uh. speaking of pickins. George Pickkins is. now a member of the Dallas Cowboys. Now,

there was uh obviously a couple. different thoughts whenever DK Mechaf. gets paid $30 million a year annually as. a wide receiver for the Pittsburgh. Steelers without ever playing a snap for. them. That is so out of the ordinary for. the Pittsburgh Steelers to do that. But. they want to make a run. They want to. make a splash. They need another weapon. Yada yada yada. A lot of Pittsburgh. Steelers fans like, "All right, now we. got two wide receivers. We've always. needed two wide receivers." Then some. people are like, "Well, how's DK and. George Pickkins throughout an entire. season going to be able to coexist?" Two. number ones in their head. Now, I know. CD is number one as well, but you know, how will that be able to go? Now we find. out that they're moving on from George.

Pickkins because there's a potential, you know, obviously contract. conversation. There's also looking ahead. at the next draft potential. conversation. Like, how do you think we. got to this point of George Pickkins. getting moved from the Pittsburgh. Steelers, Shreger, from your standpoint? Yeah, look, so I've done a lot of work. on this the last 24 hours, and it's like. George Pickkins runs hot, and you see it. on Sundays when he's throwing his. helmet, and he's he's having uh. meltdowns and crashs on the sidelines, all that stuff. But I know this sounds. like I'm buttering up to the player and.

I've gotten a lot of that when I say. this, like he wasn't a disliked player. in that building. Now, he was late for. certain things and there was issues uh. on game day on Sunday with him getting. frustrated with the quarterback play and. wanting the ball. But to a man everyone. in Pittsburgh was like shows up like he. works hard, he blocks his ass off and he. can still play. The truth of the matter. was they weren't going to pay him the. big money that he was going to be due at. the end of this season and they figured. they could move on. Now, they did pay. the money to DK Metaf. They're moving. on. They like Roman Wilson. They like.

Calvin Austin. They like the wide. receiver room they have. They also like. an offense that has Pat Frymouth and. what they can do up there. So, there are. so many question marks in Pittsburgh. This one seemed odd when you look at the. fantasy football stats or you look at, okay, well, they at least had the. strength of these two number one and 1A. wide receivers. But from a Steelers. standpoint, move on now. Pick up a third. round pick. you're probably going to get. a bunch of compensatory picks in free. agency this coming year um based on what. left the building and and now you're.

loading up for the next draft. And. George Pickkins, is he an all-time. Steeler? No. But he's had some cool. moments and they'll move on. And if he. goes on and is one of the best wide. receivers in football, I don't think the. Steelers are going to be crying about. it. It didn't work out in his three. years here. They move on from that. standpoint. I think Pittsburgh's fine. with it. But I don't think this is one. of those things where like he was a. total diva and we couldn't stand him and. Tomlin couldn't coach him. I didn't get. that read talking to the Steelers. people. Got it. It was like we know who. he is. We like him. We respect who he. is. Fresh start will be good for all. parties and we're not going to pay him. We just paid DK30 million which could be.

them, you know, saying this isn't what. we want to sign up for. Dallas Cowboys. feel like a great place to potentially. have George Pickkins become a mear in. the NFL, especially with how many times. he's on prime time. And we've seen how. great he can be. And you're talking. about his blocking. Yeah, he bodies. people. Now, there's some plays where. that doesn't happen, but if he's able to. take that next step, you're talking. superstar. Shotty, first time head. coach, new head coach in Dallas, brings. in George Pickkins. What do you think. expectations are now for the Cowboys? Is. it always going to Super Bowl? Is that.

literally how we have to talk about the. Cowboys? Well, look, you have to bump it. up now because this is basically a. one-year deal for a player that you gave. up a third round pick, which is a high. quality pick, and now you're saying this. was the plan all along, or this is what. we had up our sleeves when we didn't. draft a wide receiver at 12th overall, and we didn't address that position. So, here comes Pickkins, who, as much as I. just said, he could be good teammate and. he could block. He's not a model citizen. on the field on Sundays if he doesn't. get the rock. Last year, CD Lamb got 73. more targets than the Cowboys number two.

wide receiver. I would imagine he's. going to get a lot more targets than. George Pickins. How is he going to. handle that? Which puts the onus not. only on Pickkins, puts the onus on. Shottenheimimer, who for the last two. months has been preaching culture, culture, culture, where culture. Holy. [ __ ] man. There he is. There he is. Sh. That's the American uh Pope. First time. ever. Shout out to uh Pope. Pope. Did I. read something? He's going to go by Leo. Yeah, Pope Leo. Pope Leo. Great name. Leo. He's seen Titanic. He's Yeah, he.

understands the Leo name and he's. beautiful. Okay. Shout out to Pope Leo. from America. First time in 266. This. moment's getting to him. How could it. not? Guy has Guy has emotions. Guy wears. his heart on his uh his painful road. On. his painful road. I mean, this guy's. ready to make the world better. Okay, let's get back to George Picket. Sorry, that was that was literally the first. shot there of him. Uh George, no. Are we. okay with the Pope being so emotional or. do we want to see a more you know? No. No. We like to get excited. I'm a. levelheaded guy. I'm pretty I mean tears.

on your first day, Pope. I don't know, man. Dream come true. It means a lot to. him. Excuse me, father. Lock in, you know. Leave those tears. He's. allowed to have a parade. Yeah, he can. have he can have him in the back behind. closed doors with his boys, with his. Cardinals. He's out there crying like a. baby. No, look how joyful he is. Look. how pushy he is. He's grateful for the. moment. He's allowed to feel that way. Feels like the moment. That's like. seriani at the Super Bowl. That lone. baby just coming out. Yeah. Yeah. Let. Pope Leo live. It feels like the moment. might be too big for him. No, he goes in.

to win that Super Bowl. I'm a little. worried. All right. Well, thank you. Thank you, Shakes. What do you mean he's. not ready for the moment? He's staring. him down. He's ready for the moment. Yeah, he's staring him down crying like, "Oh [ __ ] what?" Think about how. comfortable Think about how comfortable. you got to be in your own skin. In your. own Yeah. faithful robes. Think about. how comfortable you got to be to cry. I'm getting I'm getting texts from the. other popes uh candidates. They're not. They're [ __ ] Okay, look at him. He's. crying up there. See? Okay. I got wish I. had six of them. All right. Day one. All.

right. Reach. Bit of a reach. George. Pickkins. A reach. George Pickkins has a. chance to elevate that team down there, though. We all know that. We all respect. that. We all uh kind of expect that. I. think it's just like Shotti has been in. this league for a long time. He's. talking culture and like there's all. eyes on this guy. I got to go back to. the way they hired him. So unorthodox. Mike McCarthy's contract runs out and. they didn't do the full search. They. didn't sit down with Ben Johnson. They. didn't sit down with Cliff Kingsbury. didn't sit down with all these different. guys. I did a very limited search and it. was basically like on Friday at 6:00.

We're hiring Brian Shottenheimer who's. been here the last few years whether you. like it or not. And that's kind of how. it's done. And it's like, trust us, we. got this. Well, now you've got Dak. making 60 million coming off an injury. And you've got, of course, a bunch of. question marks with Zack Martin no. longer on the team being the leader in. the offensive line room. So, there's all. these question marks and I think George. Pickkins is a piece to this, but at the. end of the day, it's going to be Shotty. and it's going to be Dak and whether. they can get it done when it matters. Okay, I'm excited for Shotty figure it. out. Go ahead, AJ. Shrekes, do you have. any idea how long they've been shopping. this? Like how long this has been going.

on? We've heard Jerry make comments in. the past. They were working on some big. things before and during the draft. And. also second part, like do you know how. George Pickins feels at all about this? Was he okay moving on? Was he okay. getting moved? I don't know. And I and I. and I wouldn't know it from the player. perspective at this moment, but I think. from from what I've gathered hearing. around the league that like Dallas has. opened opened arms in in a wide way and. are really happy to have him. Now I is. this what the trade was? I think so. The. fact that T-Mac went eighth overall uh. Ted Royal McMillan to Carolina. They.

weren't going to reach on Matthew. Golden. They weren't going to reach on. Ibuka just to get a wide receiver. So. instead they took Booker the offensive. lineman who's going to play center for. them and is an absolute dog. And then. they said, "Okay, we'll address this. here." here. But the story I got was. this was going on before the draft. It. kind of cooled off and then late on. Tuesday night, uh, that's when the calls. really started coming in and they put. this thing to bed. That's why CD Lamb. had that tweet like it was kind of known. that something was happening late. Tuesday night and it was announced. Wednesday morning. And I think George. unfollowed the Steelers on some social. media platforms which is 2025 indicator.

of like, yep, hey, something's about to. happen. So, good luck to George down. there in Dallas. Let's talk about the. draft a little bit because you are the. draft guy. You were great with us. We're. so incredibly thankful that you joined. us on draft night. AP Tone has a. question for you. Yeah, Shregs, this. almost happened before and at the draft. I believe the rumors Steals were looking. for a day two pick for George at the. draft. Is there any other stories that. or guys or things that we need to look. at that almost happened at the draft. that could potentially happen the rest. of this summer? Yeah, I'm still looking.

at a couple names like, you know, Kirk. Cousins's name was coming up throughout. the draft and seeing if Pittsburgh. doesn't get Aaron Rogers, is that the. move? I think Cousins is still a viable. trade target. As much as they want to. talk out of both sides of their mouth in. Atlanta, fact of the matter is you're. paying him a wild amount of money to be. a backup quarterback right now and he is. still a viable starting quarterback. If. there is a seat on the carousel that's. open, it is Pittsburgh. So, I would keep. an eye on that one. It's out of. conference. You have a relationship. between Arthur Smith, the former head. coach of the Atlanta Falcons, and the. Pittsburgh Steelers. And of course,

Raheem Morris and Mike Tomlin are as. thick as thieves and have been so since. their days in Tampa Bay together. So, to. me, that is a possible one I would watch. if Rogers doesn't put out the smoke of. himself and says, "Hey, here here's. where I'm coming and this is my. opportunity to get in there." Wait, do. you have an announcement, AJ? Do you. have an announcement? Is that happening. next? That's a good question. That'd be. sweet, wouldn't it? I mean, that would. make sense if Aaron put out like uh you. know, black and gold smoke, right? if he. decides to go to the Steelers. Yeah, he. should. Obviously, the background music. is all you really All he needs to do is. post just a a picture of himself down on.

the beach with that that towel and robe. around him, whatever it was, with his. thing. And then just Yeah, maybe a. cigarette. Then just munching a perogi. Okay. Maybe maybe I don't know if that's. part of his diet, but I do maybe a. sandwich. Maybe a perogi. Neutrograin. bar. Is that what you're about? No, I. was going to say new new nutritionist. maybe. Oh yeah. Who knows? Maybe he is. in a pro. Maybe he said, "I need to. tough him back up a little bit. Eat some. eat some good tasting stuff." And all he. needs to have is just,

"Oh, I'm. Everybody would get it." Yeah. Everybody. would understand. Drinking. I've seen. some people say that uh he's um the. timing on which he's going to sign, the. timing on which he's going to sign. I. think he told us pretty clearly like I. didn't want to commit to OTAAS. I didn't. want to commit to a team. and then not. be able to show up at OTAAS. I have a. lot of stuff going on in my personal. life. And I guess this is more of a. question for AJ, but Shrags, you. probably got a chance to talk to some.

people behind the scenes as well. There's an expectation after OTAA's end, I assume, that this is probably when. everything is going to happen with Aaron. Rogers. And look here, to his credit, and he was very transparent. I spoke to. the Giants guys uh while that was all. going on, and he was very complimentary. of Brian Dable on your show after the. fact because he said to them, he said. the same thing to the Steelers, guys. if. you if you are going to operate on your. timetable, that's not my timetable. Please move on. So, he was very upfront. All these people saying like, we're. waiting on Rogers. These teams have been.

given the choice to wait on Rogers. Now, the Giants, they pivoted. They went and. they signed Jamus. Then, they signed. Russ and then they drafted Jackson Darts. and they were trying to trade up to get. Cam Ward. We're learning now. They're. doubt. We saw the tape on that. Uh the. Steelers, however, they had a great. meeting. It all went well. He told him. the same exact thing and the Steelers. decision was to go back into their. facility and say, "All right, we're. willing to wait. So, this is the price. they're paying a little bit, but I do. not think, and AJ, you could tell me.". And Pat, of course, you guys all know. there. I don't think there's this. assumed handshake deal that, "Hey, don't.

worry, I'll get there." They would have. announced it. They would have signed. him. They would have done. I still think. he's deliberating. And from what I. gather, Pittsburgh knows no more now. than they did at the draft or before the. draft. AJ, yes, Shanks, I would I would. agree with you. I would assume that that. is that is pretty accurate. Okay. He was. down at Derby with him, remember? Doesn't know what the ring was on his. hand, but did get a chance to see how. physically uh healthy he looked. He say. he looked good. Mentally looked good. He. was happy. Uh but figuring out what his. future is, especially and by the way, there's a lot of people that feel.

certain ways about Aaron and they always. will uh for whatever reason. You know, there was a reason a few years back that. a lot of people probably still hold. against him and the way he operates and. everything like that. But like I I think. he's earned the right after 20 years to. decide whether or not he wants to. continue playing football or where he. wants to play football. And getting an. opportunity to decide where you're going. to go and how it's going to go for the. first time in your entire career. basically. It's like I think he's earned. that opportunity now. It would be cool. to know what he's doing though. Like I. think that would be cool for us without. a doubt. Yeah. But in his mind he. doesn't give a damn if we care. A JJ.

Nothing. Like not even a little wink of. the eye. Nothing. Huh? A blood moon. coming up. Trees. Tell you what, I don't. I don't think I I don't think I know. what you guys think I might know about. this situation. Yeah, that's two times. now whenever we asked him about the. wedding ring, the uh the answer he gave. on the show, I don't we didn't get much. clarity on that. Like there's times. where you know AJ is lying and he does. know and then there's other times where. he gives answers like, "Oh, I think he. legitimately has no idea." But speaking. of ideas, you're the one who knows. everything seemingly. Ty Schmidt has a.

question for you, Shriggs, about the. drafts host city. Yeah, Shregs. Uh, do. you have any update on Jaier Alexander? It seemed like before the draft, it was. kind of a foregone conclusion that the. Packers were either going to trade him. or cut him. And then as we've kind of. progressed here now, they've reached. some sort of resolution allegedly where. maybe he's going to come back. But. whatever it is, there will be some sort. of announcement on him in the coming. weeks. Do you have any update on that. whatsoever? I know you uh talked to Matt. Laflur over draft week. I had I had a.

lovely dinner with Matt Laflur during. draft week in Green Bay and I brought it. up and I don't think he'd mind me saying. this saying like we're actually in a. good place with Jire. You know, obviously there was some stuff last year. and the coin toss situation a couple. years back and all that stuff is all. headscratching stuff that it would drive. a coach nuts when you're trying to run a. disciplined program, but from what I. gather, this thing is in a lot better. place than what was being presented in. the media and that there is a place for. Gier Alexander in Green Bay. And I think. he he and Jeff Hafley actually have had.

a great relationship and it's a. different breed and it's a different. time and I I don't know exactly how it. nets itself out but like when he was. being listed as that number one trade. target I don't think that was coming. from Green Bay and if you know goody at. all he wasn't leaking that to anybody. So that was a lot of outside noise I. believe. Um we'll see how it how it. figures itself out though. You gave me a. lot of information in a one sentence. about the coin toss situation. Whenever. you're trying to run a discipline. operation and uh accountability driven. operation and you got guys just making. themselves captain because he thinks you. forgot where he was from on that he.

didn't know he just forgot I think made. himself captain. I would like to let you. know and you can tell the floor this the. next time and he probably has seen our. reaction. We thought that was one of the. most legendary moves in history just. naming yourself captain and then. afterwards being like you didn't like. it. No, I loved it. I abs now if it was. on a team I was on it I'd be like that's. wild that you did that but just from. outside looking in that's one of the. boldest most hysterical things I have. ever seen and then afterward just being. like I think he just forgot to make me a.

captain knows he know I'm from Charlotte. he should know like I'm from Charlotte. I'm supposed to be the captain here it's. kind of how it works in the history of. the NFL which is a pretty accurate. sentiment too if you don't have main. captains and you have a rotating captain. if you have a starter or a leader on a. team in their hometown normally kind of. given the the nod to kind of represent. the team at the coin toss and Jire just. being like yeah I guess Laflur just got. caught up in some other things this week. you just forgot the co I would add one. more thing on the Packers if I can just.

from that conversation with Laflur Romeo. Dobs had a game where he didn't play. last year because of disciplinary. reasons and he really had a had a rough. week and they decided to bench him. suspend him for the game whatever it was. officially listed you know with the. Steelers trading pickins there's been a. lot of rumors that Dobs with his close. relationship to Rogers. Rogers used to. always praise him when he was a rookie. and say how great Romeo was doing. I I. I'm here to tell you Laflur's like Romeo. Dobs is great in our building. So I. don't think one of those Steelers. receive or those Packers Steelers is. necessarily being shipped either just to.

make Rogers happy which has been an. assumption online. I think the Packers. are really happy with their young wide. receiver group and they add Matthew. Golden. It's like an NBA basketball. team. They're thrilled with what they. got. Okay, so let's pivot away from the. Green Bay Packers and the Pittsburgh. Steelers. just mentioned a couple times. there. Cleveland Browns have 45. quarterbacks. How's that whole thing. going to work out? You just mentioned it. uh about what was going on with the. Giants. Let's talk about the Cleveland. Browns. How's that going to look. whenever season comes? How do they plan. on handling that and what do you think. it looks like for the Cleveland Browns.

going forward? They're dipping their toe. into it now. I don't think this was the. plan necessarily when they laid it all. out back in March, but uh you know, Kenny Picket, Joe Flacco, obviously. we've seen both of them now in their. Browns unifor Super Bowl champions. both. of them Super Bowl champions. Both of. them. Um and then you've got you've got. one's got big hands. We saw the photos. yesterday. The other one has a glove and. that's fine. Um the other Yeah, there it. is. Uh then then you got Dylan Gabriel, who I thought has been very dismissed. throughout this process. Um after Shador.

was taken, they did draft Dylan Gabriel. over Shador Sanders. Objectively, they. chose him in the same draft process. So. to me, right now, it is not every man. for themselves. snaps are going to be, you know, divided the way it it should. be in their head. But Matthew, uh, I'm. sorry, Matthew, Kevin Stfansky, of. course, has a plan. Tommy Reese, the. offensive coordinator. Then I look at. Billy Musgrave, he's going to play a. role, too. You've got different people. who have been down the road with a. million different quarterback. situations. But, uh, when I hear it's. just an open competition, I think that's.

dismissing that they were very. aggressive, uh, in getting Joe Flacco. They were quite aggressive in getting. Kenny Picket in a trade, and then they. drafted Dylan Gabriel. Does Shadore have. a shot? Of course, Shadore has a shot. Go and do what Russell Wilson did in. 2012 when the late Travaris Jackson was. there and then Matt Flynn was a big free. agent signing, but he was so undeniable. that Pete and John Schneider were like, we can't look at the rest of the team. and say we're going to roll out with. Matt Flynn or Travarus Jackson. Russell. Wilson is too good despite being a third. round pick. If Shadore does that, he's.

got a chance. But that's few and far. between that a fifth round pick who's. fourth on the depth chart is going to be. able to do that out of the gates. So. Shador Sanders obviously in the building. has an opportunity. We're pulling for. him. Everything he's been doing in. Cleveland since getting drafted. Very. cool. That of a starting quarterback. Did you see the guys suing 100 million. against the uh NFL cuz the damages. watching Shadur slide in a draft? I'd. like to say I was pretty bummed out too. about it. Me too. M I don't know if this. is going to be a class action thing or. just just a one oneoff or whatever the. case is, but Colorado Buffalo fans said.

that wasn't right and it affected me and. I'm suing the NFL all so all 31 owners. are getting sued. Roger Goodell I assume. is getting sued. General manager is. going to have to they're the ones that. are finally making a say I guess. Head. coaches are in a room where it happens. I need a front office too. He if he gets. 20 30 bucks from everybody he's at 100. million pretty quick you know with how. many people he's looking to sue. Um, that becoming the story of the draft. obviously warrants a respect to Shadore.

because how popular he is, how many. people have followed his story and. everything like that. There's a lot of. other stories. You mentioned Dylan. Gabriel not being talked about being. drafted ahead of Shador Sanders. Nobody. had him as a guy that was going to get. drafted ahead of Shadore. He was not. being drafted ahead of anybody else. What are some other draft stories you. think now looking back on it here a. couple weeks out that haven't really. been chatted about? What is something. Quinn? You were seventh rounder. I mean. that's a wild thing that happened. What. do you think some things that didn't get. like mentioned enough out of the draft.

now that we're kind of past couple. things? San Francisco redoing their. defensive line overnight getting three. great defensive linemen they're excited. about. I've spoken with those guys in. the last couple weeks and I feel like. that's an underrated storyline that San. Francisco defensive front whether it was. Buckner or it was Armstead or it was. Bosa or it was Javon Kinlaw for all. those years those guys up front that. kind of went to went out wayward over. the last last season and then they went. and they rebuilt and now Muel Williams. is who they took. I could tell you they. were calling up to see do we have to. move up in the draft to get this guy. So. they were thrilled with getting him. San.

Francisco getting back to defense I. think was the big story line. And then, you know, I I look at the way the draft. fell and there were some some picks that. we praised and all this stuff in day. three. Like Cam Scatterabo is a. household name and is a guy that Giants. fans are going to absolutely love. and. he is a piece of a Giants draft where. they totally changed the narrative on. how their fan base looks at their front. office, how their fan base looks at that. uniform in the matter of three days by. executing the Abdul Carter and Jackson.

Dart first round which is what they were. hoping to do and then getting Marcus Bo. who is an awesome offensive lineman out. of Purdue as late as they did and then. getting household name like Scatterabbo. and then they got this kid Alexander. from the MAC who they're very excited. about like the Giants they're the fourth. team in the NFC. That's fine. But I. would tell you that after the year they. had with Hard Knocks and with Seaquan. and Xavier McKini and just how bad it. was last year, for Joe Shane and Co to. get some plaudits in New York and for.

the New York fans to be like kind of. puffing their chest about the draft, that was a major major deal in New York. Congrats. I know how hard that had to. that that hard knocks thing and then. then it going the way it's going. It's. like you could get dunked on by. everybody, let alone being in the. biggest market. I mean that is that be. and for Shane whenever he calls the. Titans the video that they release he. calls the Titans ask him if they want to. trade for uh the pick whenever they go. on the clock and him like laughing and. being confident and comfortable it's. like I'm happy they didn't take your joy. brother because it could have gotten bad.

for him personally. It did. Yeah, it. did. And I'll tell you, you want to add. a little something else? Like the night. that the prank calls went down, Joe. Shane's daughter goes to miss. There. were all these people saying that Joe. Shane's daughter leaked the number for. Shadore and she was getting stuff on. social media. I mean, people can be. really crappy sometimes. So, agreed. It's just like, you know, then we find. out it wasn't Joe Shane's daughter. Was. there a grand apology for all the people. online who were people reputable, people. with check marks, people who we work. with being like Joe Shane's daughter is.

involved, like just stupid stuff. And. yet there's no apology. There's no. feeling of remorse for that. It just the. world moves on. But it's been a rough 12. months for Joe Shane in this market. And. then for them now, the GM to be like, I. did pretty good the draft, right guys? Like and the fans being like, yeah, you. did. I think it's a big moment. How. about there was so many prank calls that. were kind of, you know, everybody. obviously got caught up with the Shador. one cuz that was being documented, filmed, and followed so closely and. brick's kid and fine and the Falcons and. everything that took place like that. They had So they talked about how many.

people had all those numbers. Yeah. Well, it's crazy. I got a memo on. Thursday. Thursday Thursday forwarded to. me with just a memo from the NFL and it. was like here like so teams they all got. these numbers and like it it can go into. anyone's hands, you know, and it's the. players numbers and they've given these. phones and Shador changed his number the. week of the draft and there was an alert. like here's his new number for teams and. that can get to anywhere. So I don't. know how to fix it. I'm also, if I'm. being honest, Pat, like I know people. were crying on television the next day. on Monday over this. Like I I don't I.

mean Shador Sanders was at a party on. Saturday night, you know, enjoying. himself and was celebrating with. friends. Like I I'm not going to cry. about it either. I don't think it's the. end of the world. There's a lot bigger. things than someone getting pranked. I. understand what you're saying. And I. also think that all of this is good for. Shadore. You know, all of this is good. for Shadore. It'll continue to be a part. of the story. Hopefully the story ends. with him being a Hall of Famer. I mean, there's opportunity. Anybody that got. drafted could be a Hall of Famer. any. any round, any pick could end up being a. Hall of Famer. Any round, any pick could. be a massive bust. That is why the draft.

is so damn awesome. And I appreciate. hearing that about Giants fans because. if this doesn't work out, they'll say, "This guy's the worst." And if it does. work out, it's like, "This is the best. drafter of all time." It's a crazy. business, man. It is a crazy business. That's why you being able to keep up. with all of it for draft night for us. was so special. Legit, I can't I had. such a blast, dude. It was so good. I'm. still smiling over it. I had such a. blast with you guys and I'll tell you. Tony Digs like the two of like I I could. do that the rest of my career and I'll. be a happy guy. That was so so fun and.

you guys were so gracious to me and to. hang with you guys before and afterwards. was a treat also. I love you guys. Okay, we love you too. Yeah, dinner the night. before, hanging out afterwards. You. crushed it. Uh him not wanting to go to. dinner the night before because he. wanted to get a good night's rest. I was. so pumped for I'm like he's like it's. big day tomorrow. Super Bowl more. I'm. like you can't go to dinner at 7:30. I. was there. I wanted to get Yeah, absolutely. And then at the end of the. night, I saw you like getting antsy like. we got to sleep. I got Yeah, I got to. get some sleep. I got early morning. tomorrow morning sports center here. Yeah, I I got to I got to do this. Dude,

how good how good was McCarthy stories. though. Oh my gosh. I could have stayed. up till 5 in the morning talking to that. dude. Agreed. I would have loved to hear. him talk about having George pick it and. see who he went. I mean, those pretty. good offers. Can we pretty good offers, right? I mean, we're in a good spot. there. I think Jerry obviously calls the. shots here and. I don't sound like that, do I? Yes, you. do, brother. Okay. Uh, last question. from us for you and it's obviously about. a team that you know a lot about. Uh, doing something I think awesome because.

I love the state. Go ahead, Connor. Yeah, Sh. Why is McVey going to Maui for. mini camp? Just because he wants to get. a new tan, kind of go check out Hawaii. or what's the deal there? June 16th to. the 19th, they're inviting their fans to. come. They're going to be out there in. Hawaii. They've done g they've done. practices there before, but they're. going to do mini camp out there. This is. a market for them. They really look at. that. I mean, it's it's the closest. market to Hawaii and they look at it as. one of these different burgeoning. markets. They're also big, oddly enough. in Australia. They have a huge audience.

Um that that is like one of their. affiliated teams that the Rams have a. big place there. So, they're looking. overseas. They're looking globally. Uh. they are never scared to swing the. stick. And this is something new and. cool. And I can tell you uh they they'll. be they'll be having a good time out. there for those three days out in. Hawaii. I love uh the state of Hawaii. I. love the people that come from there. I. love everything about that place and uh. shout out to Puka, you know, Noula uh. obviously uh representing for the Rams. and one of their biggest stars. I love.

that they do things Yeah. for content. and to change up the energy and change. up the vibes like, "Hey, let's go to a. fire department. All right. Is that. going to be possible?" Yeah. We'll. figure it out. Let's go to a mansion. That'd be pretty sick. We got to hang. out here for what? 3 days. We got to be. here for 14 hours a day. We might as. well be in like a mansion, right? With a. cool view. Yeah, let's go do that. Let's. go to Maui. Let's give back. I I like. the way they think. I like the way Les. thinks. I like the way Sean thinks. I. like them a lot. They've got a really. collaborative group there. And we don't. talk about like marketing people much,

but like there's this woman Cat. Frederick. There's a woman Joanna. Hunter. They're always thinking way. bigger. So, you know, like they go to. the Khan Film Festival in the summer. representing the Rams. So the ramps have. a presence at like con like they're. always thinking about Sounds like a free. trip to con. It sure does. Yeah, it sure. does. Yeah, we have reps from the ESPN. at the Met Gala. I don't know if you. heard about that. I I saw that. Saw. that. Um but even at their games, if you. see a game at Sofi, they've got a club. on like the ground level that Bootsie. Bellow's club that they have that like. at a home game like I hadn't I know the.

Vegas Raiders do it now too, but like I. hadn't seen that before. They're always. thinking outside the box. They want to. make this thing an experience. So shout. out to the Rams. They do things a little. different. I like that they do business, you know, cuz a lot of these owners just. do, yeah, our business is the business. that just makes us $100 million if we do. nothing. So, I like that they run actual. business over there. And I think that'll. pay off for him, you know. Now, assigning yourself uh we got to have. representation at cons and we got to. have representation in Hawaii. We should. go Coachella, right? Coachella, I think. on the stage, right? Backstage. We got.

to have representation backstage. Going to whatever. Yeah, definitely. Yeah, there's a house. I think there's a. community down there. We need All right, we appreciate Yeah, you're the man. Tres, ladies and gentlemen, Peter. [Applause]. That's That's good business move. I. think we need to be represented in Miami. for week or two in the middle of. February, right? Don't you think? Art. Art Basle or whatever they have down. there. They got people I bet Basil if. you've ever been down there. Fashion. week. I've never I don't know what it.

is, but I see guys dressed up in all. kinds of costumes down there. Oh, I. didn't know much about it. What? So, what is it? What do you mean? What is. art? Is that what the NFL players just. did? Art basil. Art basil. It's one of. these things that these high flutans go. to. I don't know. What is What are you. talking about? Is it I don't know. I've. heard the word art basil. Art basil. I. assume it's some kind of show where. people come together and they dress up. and they look at art and they wear art. I guess Okay. You assume that's the. case? Do they? That is I assume. Yeah. So, have you seen photos of this? You. don't want to admit you know what Art. Basil is down in Miami? Oh, no. That's.

That's what I know it as. you know, like. a in some kind of art situation where. people get together and they come and. they collaborate. I guess I do. appreciate anytime I see somebody. dressing outrageous, it's like, wow, that's the biggest event that they could. possibly be. Like the Met Galla stuff, some of those costumes. Andre 3000. showed up as a piano. Got a piano on his. back. Amazing. Just Halloween. I, you. know, like I I don't know if they if. they any of them celebrate Halloween. I. assume they do, you know, because like. whatever the case is. But I see they.

give them like a a subject clearly. They. give them like a uh an idea, a genre, and they're like, "Good luck out there.". And they're like, "Let's go to work. I'm. putting a [ __ ] piano on." It's like, "How are you going to do that?" Somebody. will figure that out. I don't know. Somebody figure that out. It's awesome. There's photos. What are you wearing. today? All a [ __ ] piano. Maybe grand. Do you see it? What's it look like? Yeah. Congrats to everybody. I love that. Hey, have fun. Yeah. Have fun. fashion's. awesome. Like Tyrese Hallebertton was.

getting grilled a little bit about his. fashion on a podcast. I saw well and he. was like, "Yeah, I like it." Sometimes I. think it looks good. Rightfully so. Some. of his costumes, their outfits. He. probably Okay. He's probably dying to go. to Mecca. I I bet. Yeah, especially in. the middle of playoffs. He's like, "Well, I'm never going to be able to. make it till I retire.". Some of these phones really ring. Like. Bruce's computer. Whoa. Sorry, that's my. laptop again. This happens every time I. unplug my. headphones. He's so bummed out. I hate.

it. So bottomed out. Who's he mad at? Himself. I'm mad at myself. I ruined the. show now. No, he ruined. Yeah, right. We. just had a phone ring. I don't know. We. had a pope uh breaking news pop up. Have. a phone ring there. There's people that. are listening. That's podcast listeners later are going. to wonder what the hell's going on. We. had a full moment there. Well, it's a. spam call, too. They figure that out. Yeah, dude. Too many of that, baby. So. many. So, if if you accidentally give. your number to somebody, they catch you. They trap you and it's like, "Oh, what's. your number I can get for your like.

you're checking into a room. They're. like, "What's your phone number?" And. they get it. You're dead. You say no to. that. Okay? You're allowed to say no to. that. They don't need it. Every every. hotel I'm checking into, these people. are like, "What's your phone number so. we can reach you?" It's like, "Yeah, just call the room of it. Mhm. There's a. there's a thing cuz once your phone. number gets in there or anywhere at uh. at like one of these stores or. restaurants or anything where they ask. for your number, if they just get it's. massive database everywhere you're. getting texts and calls. That spam.

likely thing is a good move, but it's. also kind of annoying. Like how does. everybody have my number? All of a. sudden, it's [ __ ] It is [ __ ]. That's what the first order of business. I want this pope on public. Joining us. now ladies and gentlemen, is a man who's. been trying to get everybody's phone. number since the beginning of time. He's. a survey Yeah. master, a survey creator, a man who has been tasked with starting. a brand new hockey club in the NHL. He's. also the owner of the Utah Jazz. He's 46. 47 maybe years old, multi-billionaire,

self-made, obviously alongside a great. team, owner of the Jazz and the. Mammoth. Ladies and gentlemen, Ryan. Smith. Tusks up, bro. Tusks up. Tus up. Tusk. up. Tusk up. Tusk up. Tus up. Tusk. Oh, wow. Yeah, those are tusks. That's a. good one. Yeah, I know. In in Utah, too, you won't have to worry about people. taking advantage of that cuz that would. immediately be big beers. Tusks up. Big.

beers. But maybe it could be big diet. cokes. Tusks up like that. You know what. I mean? Do it AJ. Come on, Hawk. Yeah. There it is. Or there we go. you can go. forward too. Congratulations. I know. this was not an easy process obviously. trying to name a brand new brand, a. brand new team, especially in a league. like the NHL that has been around for so. long with so many historic names. I know. this was something that was weighing on. your mind a lot. How did we get here and. how pumped were you for the release and.

reaction? Seemingly very possible or. very positive, I mean, from everybody. Yeah, like first of all, it's it's good. to be back, guys. has been a bit um it's. uh it's a crazy process right now. especially with naming and branding and. trademarks like there's you know I don't. know if it's Shopify that came out where. everyone in the world decided to. register a trademark set up a a site but. we went through the process we decided. we were going to let it loose to our. fans and pretty much the whole world and. um had almost a million votes and.

narrowed it down narrowed it down we had. four different waves of voting and then. we got down to the final three and it. just it took off completely completely. different than we thought, but we. committed from the beginning. Whatever. the fans chose, we were going to we were. going to roll with. And it was really. cool how we landed the plane. And it was. like with a mammoth, it was like it was. like the Kentucky Derby. Like the the. name started pulling away every single. day of voting. Um, which was pretty. sweet. And obviously it made it easy on. us. Yeah, obviously the logo and brand.

building is a vital piece of it. And. what you guys were able to create is. filthy. That is a nasty logo. all of the. different alternate logos and alternate. ideas. Absolutely awesome. I I think we. got to press play on that real quick. Uh. this video is it fro Yeah, there it is. Boom. The all of the different ones are. awesome. And you still have the Utah. hockey club feel uh with that one with. the the state or the Utah or whatever. There one right there. I think you did a. great job with this. You guys have to be. incredibly proud. Legit. Yeah. Well,

shout out to the team, our people here. Double day cartright. They helped out. It was uh it was pretty sweet process. and you know I think I think everyone. had a little different picture of what. they wanted it to be in their heads but. everyone got together. There was a group. of like eight of us and they kind of set. that aside and we're cool with however. kind of everyone had a moment where they. had to get on board. So it was a pretty. cool creative process. A lot of Easter. eggs in that logo. A lot of Easter eggs. Obviously you can see mountains. You see.

you can see the state of Utah I think on. the outside there. Uh they kind of run. through all the in beautiful thing. That's a U you see for you for for Utah. and then the Tusk goes through it. obviously. What else? Is there anything. I'm missing? No, I think if you look at the state. turned sideways and then the mountains. are obviously, you know, if you look at. all the new Jazz jerseys, I mean all. four of our jerseys have the similar. fill with the note and the mountains on. it. So that's a cool collab. And then. the blue actually carries over to the.

NBA team. Um, but they're also unique as. well. So, I think it's a pretty strong. mark. Um, it looks it looks pretty dope. on the jerseys. Like, it's it's pretty. powerful. It does. Um, and then I think. also the secondary marks where it's the. U with the tus. Um, that's sweet. And. then obviously the tus up. This is. something that just kind of crept in and. we ended up with the the domain. I mean, I think. the for the most part, I think there's.

probably close to 30,000 people have. done that. Hey, I that's the first time. I've seen that. That that works. You're. welcome. Especially if you turn on Yeah. I mean, you could have a dancing segment. and uh cuz I know you like to keep. everything. I got a chance to watch your. Utah Jazz team uh live with you. Thank. you for reaching out. I'm so happy I. went to that. There was I that was at. about a 4% chance of me going to that. whenever I got the invitation. And then. uh they said it came from you and then I. Googled you and I was like wait a minute.

this guy became a billionaire before he. was for he's an American man. This guy. is a he's in his hometown he owns a team. and I was like I should go meet this. man. And what I learned quickly is like. you are trying to think of everything. and you are like trying to make things. better and you are and that is kind of. your business I think since the. beginning which is surveys which got you. into this which is going to lead to a. question from me about whenever you. decided to make this an internet thing. Make this an internet thing. Oh yeah. We'll make this a poll thing. We as. people that live on the internet said.

buddy you're going to get the Utah Mc. Penises or something. like this. The. internet is going to bully you into. doing something and the internet will. force you to do it. This conversation. with Ryan Smith, owner of the Utah Jazz. and the newly named. Utah Mammies toss up toss up continues. digitally. We'll be back here for a. feelood Friday on ESPN. See you. tomorrow. Okay, so whenever you said you. had the ability to get a good name and. the internet won't internet you, I think.

we didn't believe it. Uh legitimately, I. don't think we believed it. Yeah, you I. assume we weren't the only ones. How was. the survey process which you are a. survey person in the modern world that. we're in with the name of a sports team. which can be hated on like people can. hate names like for sure people can hate. on well and like so I think looking back. like you guys were right like it was it. was high risk high reward or maybe even. high risk low reward for the way that. you would go through it. Um, Qualrix was.

pretty money throughout this process. because we did the digital polling. We. would randomize and then the real kind. of moment of truth came when we went. back to the NHL and we're like, "Hey, we. got to put some logos and brand identity. towards this." And so we we really. created like four different fully built. out brands, you know, and it was Outlaw. and it was others and Mammoth and and. then we started going around and the NHL.

was not having that we would um go out. and show these to people and then. anything you came out with, people. started registering the hashtags, the. websites, like everyone started. registering the trademarks on all this. stuff which got super like complicated. So, it was really cool. We actually. embedded all of the the research into. iPads. We w we had a we had a home.

stretch of Jazz hockey games for the. first time ever in Utah that were 11. games back to back. So we swapped out. every single night and we ended up. walking around and we would get. thousands of people to come in and it. was only a couple people with Google. glasses that actually leaked it. I mean, you got to plan for everything. But. Mammoth, every night, Mammoth started. taking off and it was growing at like. 10% a night where people, it's almost.

like tell they had to narrow it down and. they had to really get opinionated about. it and they actually had to choose that. it got real and then kind of everything. fell into place where this is a brand. like you think about hockey club. We. dropped hockey club off. We actually. built a brand, but it's pretty vanilla. And the the fans ran with it. They're. the clubbers. They're doing all this. Now we're giving them like a strong. identity and they're going to be able to. like You're seeing a tough up. I I I.

imagine out for the Look at that swag. That's a good looking hoodie. You rock. that, right? It is a good looking. hoodie. I I mean, yeah, absolutely. I I. think, you know, it's high quality. product as well. Oh, I don't know if. this one's for sale or just what you. sent me. And I appreciate all the gifts. I also got a backpack. Yeah, there's the. other the other mammoth on it. Yeah, just the mammoth logo. Huge. It's. awesome. There's a lot of good merch. But you think about all that [ __ ] This. guy's closet. Okay. So, when you think.

about merch and all that stuff, this. dude's got a closet. You know, the He's. a billionaire. Obviously, he's battling. with this camera right now. It's going. to follow him wherever he goes. He does. not know that. He's going to follow you. wherever you go. You're a tech guy. You. should know that that camera's going to. follow you. you move, it'll come with. you. He's got, you know, the shoe closet. that LEDs under, you know, full foot. It's a It's a It's a full There's a lot. There's a lot of worse vices than. collecting shoes. It's pretty safe. I. agree. And he hoops every morning. Not. in Utah. I did. I I hooped this morning.

and it was Man, I like it. Got a little. It got a little quick. I like that you. have a young, fresh mindset on this. How' the NHL feel about all this? How is. the relationship with the NHL here now. one year into this? I mean, look, that. was yesterday. I mean, Batman came out, which is really cool that you came out. and supported this. Um, I mean, look, it. 50 56 weeks ago, we didn't even have a. team here. And we said, "Okay, we're. going to build an arena that works for. hockey, which we've got the entire arena.

of innovation going on. We're going to. We basically landed the team and. received it like a second child coming. home being received by the first one. It. actually came home by the Jazz. Like our. head coach of the Jazz, our G they were. taking like leadership roles and saying, "Hey, come on in here. Come work out in. the facility behind us." Like there was. a time last year where we had our hockey. guys in there and our hoop guys at the. same time and it was just like a cool. like kind of one team vibe and uh so.

this whole thing's been built out in a. way that you're kind of going okay how. does that happen? But even then you. don't know how it's going to go. There. wasn't a lot of data that says hey you. know what hockeyy's going to work in. Utah. The closest data I got was Vegas. My wife's from Vegas. you know, it's. kind of connected to us here. And if it. took off there, I was like, "Okay, like. there's something here." And it was. incredible. Incredible year. We got a.

bunch of young studs. It's it's it's. going to be a good time. That's awesome. I'm happy to hear that because hockey is. awesome. And I think having somebody. like you who's so invested and also. forward thinking in the league, in the. conversations is good for all of sports. AJ has a question for you, Ryan. Yeah. I'm tell about this with the the. mammoth. What do you want the identity. of this hockey team to be? That's like. we know it's it's a brand that you have. built. It's awesome. Everything going. on. Like what do you want this identity. to be when people come to the games and. they turn the TV on and watch? What do. you want them to see? Yeah. So like one.

of the things that's crazy is like. there's been a bunch of mammoths found. all over Utah and like as we started. like pulling them up it was like okay. what what are they like? And you know. kessle ring on our team's like six. seven. These things are as high as 14. feet tall. they go, you know, 25 miles. an hour. We didn't want the. Snuffelopagus logo, whatever. We wanted. something that was strong and powerful. and like people could see that. So, we.

also like you can see it's like United. It's one. It's not mammoth. It's. mammoth. Like, we are one one group. And, you know, we're young. I mean, we're we're the only team in the league. that's got two 50 point plus scorers. under under the age of 22. We're growing. it all together. we're starting out and. you know we want to be a force and I. think Utah's loud and Utah shows up. I. mean that's the one thing that everyone. in the NHL saw was like oh damn like. these guys show up. Yeah, it's something.

to do. No offense, but like that's the. same thing here in Indianapolis. It's. like there's something to do and they. like the product. Like I I think that is. obviously you have to like you can't. hate the thing. If you hate the thing, you won't show up for it. But if you. like the thing and it is something to. do, you know, like let's go enjoy the. hell out of this, you're going to do. that on a regular basis. We chatted. about this whenever we were there. You. had how many consecutive sellouts with. the Jazz? I forget what the It was like. something. Yeah, it was like 200 and. something. Yeah, 200 something at the. time. And you were you were on air the. next morning at 6:00 a.m. and you're. like, "No, I'm not going back." What?

Who said that? Well, that's what you. did. You were like, "Hey, I'll stay for. the second half." We hung out all night. Oh, yeah. You're right. You're 100%. right. Yeah. There was no plan of going. to that thing. Yeah. I had a blast. Even. a little side little setup is. unbelievable. Dwayne Wade was there. You. remember? Yeah. Oh, yeah. You guys You. guys were You guys were You had your. tank tops on together. Yeah, he looked much I will say he had a. sweet little more little more Matt Galla. appropriate there. He looked so cool. That thing was like form fitting. He was.

so jacked obviously at the time. And he. did it in front of everybody. Remember. he walked up to me. We're on the court. 200 and some sellouts. Places packed out. uh during timeouts. You're just looking. down at the court. Dwayne Wade walks. right over to me. I don't think I ever. met him before. Gap up, how you doing? Then takes his jacket off and he's got a. tank top on. I'm like, "Holy [ __ ] this. guy is so attractive. I had no idea this. was possible." He was cool. Everybody. there was awesome. Uh Big Jay. I mean, Big Jay, what a dog. What a dog. Have we. got him on skates? Have we got him on.

skates yet? I like to see. There's. There's been very little skating. Lowi. mark marketing jumped on skates. That's. pretty crazy watching our seven foot. basketball. He's a fin, you know, on. skates. It's It's pretty nuts. Like we. were out there practicing and like I've. got all the gear on because I'm like a. 30 handicap skater that doesn't know how. to stop and Lowry comes out and like we. take one turn and he falls down and I'm. just watching like our max player slide.

across the floor. Oh no. It's 7 feet. tall. And I was like he's like, "Don't. worry, I'm up." And he's he's got game. He grew up playing hockey. That's funny thinking the owner going. max player right there. This is a great. idea, Ryan. The story this the story. just doesn't end well for you on that. one. Yeah. You look like a terrible. dumbass. Maybe the dumbest of all time. Oh yeah. This guy took their max player. He's paying him a lot of money to play. on wood. So yeah, get on a blade. Yeah. Brings brings a team into the Look at.

this. He tells him, "Go, hey, go on out. there. Go ahead." Yeah, he does look. smooth though, doesn't he? Looks. comfortable out there. Oh yeah, grow up. skating over there. Standing at 7 foot6. on skates, ladies and gentlemen, representing the Mammoth. Okay, speaking. of being big and the Mammoth and then. we'll pivot to basketball because. obviously you're the owner of the Utah. Jazz as well. Connor and Tone have an. idea that they would like to pitch you. I feel like we're having a good idea. session right now. Is this a mammoth. idea session? Yes. So we All right, Connor. We thought of the tusks up. That.

might be a one or two, you know. Could. be tusk up. Yeah. Could even go forward. like you're blowing a horn perhaps. Oh, or I mean that would be Yeah. But tusks. I guess is plural. This a little bit. different. You know, I could see I could. see at the games like when people are. chugging. like that like comes out. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You're taking down that diet coke. Getting caffeinated out of my mind. Drink it through. You drink it through.

big tus that they buy at the concession. Oh, you're selling tusks. Oh my. Okay. With like a tusk holder in the chair. Yeah. Yes. Needs to be in the seat. You're doing renovations right now. I. need to be able to stick I need to be. able to stick my big ass tusk in there. Tusk down. You would sell, you know. Tusk down. Tusk up. We need. all So, not all these ideas are going. to, you know, end up being kind of I'm. going to write it down. I got it. We got. on film here. We got on film here. We're. taking the minutes right now currently.

Uh, we're all taking the minutes. But. the boys have an idea that must happen, especially with what's happening at a. potential another stadium in the United. States of America. This is a Connor Tone. Diggs idea. Yeah, you need Look, Ryan, this is kind of bottom line here. This. isn't like a hey, you should do this. You need this. Okay. Uh intimidation. factor through the roof. You need four. mammoth uh outside the front. Four. because you know, ut obviously four. letters in Utah. for Mammoth kind of. outside the front of the arena so that. when all the fans are walking in they're.

walking past the mammoth. Maybe the. first one's 20 25 ft tall and then uh. progressively they get lower so that you. can kind of pat the mammoth on the way. in. Maybe it has some sort of slogan. that you. got up maybe written on the side of. them. Yeah, the mam if you will. And we. didn't we didn't exactly come up with. this idea on our own. Uh, we kind of. stole this from the Buffalo Bills, their. new stadium that they're creating. They. have three bison outside of their. stadium and they're a little small. They're somewhere between 12 and 15 ft.

We're thinking these mammoth, which are. bigger than bison, need to be at least. 25 35 ft. Well, that's what you said was. the the 25 miles an hour, I think. And. how tall were you saying these things. were? These mammoths 14 ft. 14. Yeah. Bump that. That's amateur numbers. But. if we need we need we need big old m We. need at least 20 foot mammoth out there. And we're all pushing for that just. strictly because when these bison were. announced in front of the Buffalo Bills. new stadium, everybody was jacked up. They said, "Holy hell, we're getting big. ass bison out front of this thing." Then.

they released the sizing of it. And. somehow, I don't think this is the case. It's higher than a basketball hoop. This. is huge. This thing is going to be. gigantic. There's a lot of people that. think they're too small. Yep. These. bison are going to be too small. So, the. story behind it is animal out front. People like Yes. big ass animal out. front. People love average size animal. Think people will be like that's cool. Could have been bigger, better, better. But if they're finding mammoth too in. Utah, you could actually get the real. bones. You know, you could probably do.

that. They are in Utah. Yeah. So maybe. on the video, you saw the video. Oh. yeah. Come out of that cave. Fairview. Utah. Yeah, you're right. Yeah. They. were able to even pull the DNA out of. those. Yeah. Get the clone them. Well, now we have real one. Okay. You're. making real mammoth. Yeah. Hang them. from the roof like and put the mammoth. on the not only on the roof. Cut out a. spot for that mammoth stand next to the. ice. Yeah. Great. Like Tiger from uh the. Tiger from LSU. Vivo. Yeah. What if the.

guy came out underneath the mammoth when. they skated on the ice? Oh, a live one. Oh, dead one. Fake one. Live one. It's. probably a fake one. Oh, like a big a. real one like the sharks do at the shark. tank. They come out of the shark mouth. Sharks mouth. Yeah, that's a good idea. But if you had the real. Yeah. So, Connor, the good news is them. We've got one mammoth set up. Yeah. That. we're going to put out there. How big? I haven't gotten that far. We're still.

in the I mean, we're a day or two old. 30. Hey, you're you're a survey guy. Bringing the whole Bringing the whole. squad out probably hasn't been. addressed. They have a family. Who's he. talking about? The Mammoth. The Mammoth. squad. Bringing bringing four four. mammoth out there like I mean we are a. family oriented work. Have you seen Ice. Age? You can watch Ice Age for uh a. little bit of research on the mammoth. Yeah. The sizing just know that the. biggest one has to be 30 40 50 feet. We. because the last thing you need is for.

fans showing up 60 fans showing up. saying like [ __ ] mammoth. I thought they. were big. They baby mammoth. But when. they want a selfie in front like.5 is. not going to work. They're going to have. to be across the street to get. themselves in with the 40footer. That's. what baby That's what baby mammoth is. for. Baby mammoth is 10 ft. The selfie. mammoth. Yeah, that's the selfie. Yeah, you might even want to set up a little. background there cuz you know, a lot of. selfies are going to happen behind the. baby. You know, we got maybe like a. little uh little Utah uh whatever.

shrubbery shrubbery there cuz that's. going to be a lot of selfies around baby. mammoth. We're talking selfie with the. big mammoth. You're just looking at the. chest, I think. Yeah. Bingo. I think. it's just chess and unless you do one of. these like straight up and then you're. getting maybe the bottom of the tusk. you're getting tusk down and it's going. tusk up but you're talking about. pictures with the rest of the family the. mamly that's what we're talking we'll. text you a picture of the bills yeah. we'll draw this up okay yeah TPT I can't. wait till the designs come that was the. other thing about the designs like when.

we when we started the design process. before people would just vote with their. words now they're voting with like these. drawings. hand that look like nothing AI all AI. drawings like the amount of AI drawings. that we saw like someone would be like a. let's do a let's do an outlaw let's do a. wasachatch and a mammoth all combined. and you have like you have like an. outlaw riding a mammoth like in detail. that no hand could ever draw and it's. like whoa this was a whole another thing.

no one saw coming throughout the the. voting process in like 5 seconds too 30. seconds I think 5 seconds it's like oh. what are you talking about I I got a. question about that. Oh, here you go. It's like what? I'm excited to see what. you end up doing with AI. You Yeah. Yeah. Cuz your the way your brain works, it feels like that is inevitable. We got. a lot cooking. We got a lot cooking. I. could imagine. I could imagine that. would make sense. Yeah, we know. We read. about it, didn't we, Tom? Yeah, we did. Yeah. The XL. Well, I mean, he basic. Ryan, you basically just said you want. to get on the next phase of tech, right?

It's like a billion dollar venture or. something with you. Yeah. So, so yeah. So, Ryan Sweeney is a partner of mine. from Excel. He wrote a check to our. startup Qualrix in Utah, you know, 15. years ago when everyone else in the Bay. Area was only investing in the Bay Area. We went on a pretty epic run together. And then uh when we when my wife and I. did the Jazz, like I called Sweeney and. said, "Hey, I know you guys don't do. anything in sports. You're tech only.". But he's like, "Oh, no. We'll come in. personally." So they came in and they've. been great partners. And then you know.

as we're watching everything with AI and. kind of this intersection of sports to. be honest with you it's not like you. have tech and then sports and then. healthcare it's it's all coming together. right now and you know whether you go to. an event like there's tech people. there's sports people and a lot of. sports and tech folks need to be. activating together and so we decided to. create this fund called Halo and it's. really around experience and you know. betting on the experiences and that.

involves everything. So, it's pretty. cool. Congrats, man. I assume it's going. to work. So, that's what I assume with. you, man. I just assume it's going to. work. Yeah, I think it it probably. should. Like, I think he's you know, he's one of the best tech investors on. the planet. And um normally when we get. together, magic happens. Yeah, we told. you. Yeah, there's there's a potential. offer. Yeah. You know, there was. investors. possibly, you know, there is a uh. there's an option. You know, there's an.

opportunity there. I think we've done. crazier things. Hell yeah. Okay. All. right. Yeah. That would be crazy. Mhm. That'd be so sweet. Could you imagine? It would be smart for you guys. Mhm. I'll get Utah Mammoth tatted on my back. That You can't put a number on that, but. we will certainly try. We will certainly. try. One, but you have to hurry. Yeah. I'm just telling you though, like what. you just heard there, you might think, "Wow, they're losing leverage." Nah, that cost some, doesn't it? Yeah. Yeah. No, no, that's for shoot. That tattoo, that loyal that loyalty to Mammoth. That's right. There's a possibility.

there. And we'll be fans regardless. Yeah. But I'll let him die with him. Yeah. And he already You put a big You. put a big mammoth outside the. Thunderdome there. Yeah. And it can't be. bigger than one you're putting outside. your arena. Just remember that. So, I. mean, we already got one. He makes. graphics for us. T-Bone is not a. mammoth. T-Bone. Hey, you do not deserve. that. Oh, wow. T-Bone, you're a good. guy. TBone's been looking good. Yeah, someday. Is that right? Cuz he finished. two Dr. Peppers before 10:00 a.m. the. other day. Yeah, but I think you guys.

are watching what he's he's taking, Don. Yeah. And that's how you're making your. judgment. He looks good when he's. walking around. He said he said the. other day, he's like, "I like seriously. have to look in the mirror and like have. a conversation with myself cuz I'm. eating way too many of these new Mc. Krispy strips." He said he's like, "It's. like a real problem." The guy puked the. first time he did physical activity a. few weeks ago. Yeah. Guy did a little. physicality and then not to mention too. he says this and then a McDonald's. commercial comes out. He goes, "Well, no, I have to order him cuz that's all. commercial." Like Debo, this happened.

Debo, we're proud of you, man. You need. to live long though. Let's never forget. that. You're great at what you do. Little wild animal. Okay, let's get to. uh Sorry you had to experience that, Ryan. I I did not know that. No, I think. it's great, man. We're just rolling. Well, he's he's he's. Yeah. Exhale with a Dr. Pepper. Bro, we've we've been at this for 20 minutes. What's going to happen when our fans. have this for a full year, decade? Like, it's I legit I think you can you can. work with Mammoth. You can work with. this. I think it's a good name. I think. there's a lot of definitely plays. And I.

like that you said it's just Mammoth. because we're one family here, you know? We're one we're one family. So, do you. say go mammoth? Sorry. Do you say go get. mammoth or go mammoths? Like what do. they say in this arena? Mammoth. Look, with the with the hockey club, here's. here's what's crazy. With the hockey. club, we just rolled it out. We didn't. know what any chance were. We didn't. curate anything. By the end of the year, like it was like, "Let's go. Utah." It was like the classic. go club go.

So, the mammoth. a club is going to win today. That's off. the cubbies. Obviously, that's what. they're saying. We didn't know. But the. mammoth chance, there's opportunity. There's really opportunity there for. sure. And I think I think you should be. proud of yourself getting the job done. cuz I know it's a lot of work that went. into it. Uh but also having a positive. response. I assume that that was quite a. relief for you. So, congratulations. Yeah. I mean, nothing's positive on the. internet, so it's great. It's great. No,

you did. I saw positive for you. No, no, I know that was it was it was. wellreceived. Okay. Like, we got to we. got to give credit where credit's due. That was it was extremely wellreceived. Okay. Shout out to Utah for always being. uh supportive of Utah and shout to you. for always want to unifying Utah and. make Utah better. You're a great. representative of that state and uh I. assume the people there tell you the. same thing. Let's talk about the Jazz. now. Let's talk about the basketball. team that you own. Go ahead, Tone Digs. Yeah, Ryan, obviously not the greatest. season for the Jazz since you have been.

there, but you know the future is. bright. You have potentially you have. the 14% chance to get the number one. overall pick. three teams have a 14%. chance to probably most likely get. Cooper flag. Uh what are you guys. thoughts going into the draft after uh I. I just saw the boys running Gasters in. the background, so love to see that. That's a three minute That's a. threeminute run. We'll get our dude in. the back, the Miss Mick Krispy to come. do that. Yeah. Yeah. Puke all over your. floor. Come on. But what are your. thoughts going into the uh draft?

Look, uh I mean we got two picks. We've. got wherever we end up, it'll definitely. be top five in um 21 and then we got a. couple seconds. Um so it's a it's a it's. a pretty good draft. I think everyone is. pretty focused on it. I mean, there's a. lot of teams going and there's a lot of. fan bases who all want number one. Um. you know, the Jazz have never really. moved up uh in the draft, I think, in. our history or had the number one. So. why not now? Why not us, right? Like I. think it's uh it's a good thing. But we.

also, you know, we've got a young squad. We've got like nine guys under the age. of 23 and so we've had a lot of picks. and we've got a lot of picks coming out. I think we we as much as anyone had the. most first round picks in the NBA coming. out. So, we're definitely growing our. talent here. Ryan, what about keeping. the head coach? I know a lot of people. were kind of questioning that decision, you know, extending um Hardy. Was what. kind of went into that? And then, you. know, you kind of mentioned it with the,

you know, hockey club coming in and how. great he was and that being kind of one. team. Did that also play a factor. because outside looking in, people. weren't really considering the human. side of the. Well, so we didn't extend Will Hardy. because of how good he was with the. hockey team. Okay. As fun as that would. be, uh, Will's been an incredible. partner. Um, you know, I think with. myself and A and Jay-Z, um, you know, we're all in this together. It's not. like there's a division here of how.

we're doing stuff. Like, we're all. rolling in this together. And it's been. it's been really cool to watch just he. was the youngest coach in the in the. league when we when we hired him and and. we're growing up and we're in a rebuild. and we believe that you know as we kind. of roll out of this rebuild that he'll. we want him to be able to see a lot of. the fruits of the labor and it's a. really really easy decision and we like. him more now than when we hired him and. I think that's a that's a pretty cool.

spot and fortunately enough he likes us. because he's a he's definitely a coach. that would have a lot of demand out. there. Debbone uh said that he would run. basketball suicides no problem. So, he. appreciates you. Let's go. Have a casket. ready. That's the That's the Those are I. don't know. There's probably some sort. of uh workout going on for potential. draft picks. That's a threeminut run. How many times you can go up and down in. 3 minutes. Yeah. I think I think there. needs to be a version of that in the. Thunderdome. 3m minute run. Oh, yeah.

Oh, okay. Yeah. Yeah. And I don't know. whether it's like 22 or 26 is like a. record. Like it's it's out there. So can. you do it? I'm actually been summoned to. go do that this year. Okay. Like A is taking the overunder on how. many I can do and. so I don't know. I'm going to end up. doing it one of these days. You. literally hoop every morning though, right? That's part of the Every morning. We hoop this morning and it's Gez. It's. harder. The older you get, harder it is.

Every morning. What time? What time? Every morning. What time are you. playing? 6 a.m. 6 a.m. basketball. Same. group of guys. Same dudes. We've been. playing together for like 10 years. Ball. is life shout out. So, it's the ball. ball is life text thread. Bil shout out. And you know the text goes out. We get. to nine or 10 and it's like, "All right, one or two more. You can add a plus one. if you want to bring someone else." And. then we do it at BYU. So, we're doing it. at BYU's campus. And so oftent times.

like assistant coaches, past players, everyone will come out. So it's a pretty. good deal. Every morning at 6:00 a.m. We're starting on Yeah, we're probably. we're probably. three a good week's four four days. because of travel, but a lot still. That's so much. That would be awesome. That would be awesome if that was if. that was available just to be like, "Hey, if you want to play some pickup, we have a group of dudes that we all. like." Got to trust those guys. Otherwise, you're getting banged up out.

there that everybody has. Well, and it's. it's super important the trust factor. because you don't have any heroes out. there. You don't have anyone who's. trying to like be a hero and like you're. going up for a layup and they come. underneath you. Like it's And then we. don't we don't normally play with anyone. that's over about 67. Smart. Well, Big. J. Yeah. Well, Big Jay Big Jay, he's. probably taking it to the four. Yeah. Yeah. That's Big Jay. Not with the hat. on, though. Yeah. With the hat, he's. touching the rim. 67. Yeah. And he's.

potentially not invited anymore. Got to. get that thing down low. How much do you. think um basketball, your love of. basketball, which turned into an. ownership of your hometown team that you. loved, how much do you think you've. taken from that ownership [ __ ] and you. know being an athlete and everything in. how much has it carried into helping. with the NHL team? Is it two different. businesses, two different worlds? Has it. been pretty similar? Has it been hard? What has it been like. between navigating a new league while. also having already done it in another. league? Are you finding yourself saying.

like, well, it's much easier in the. other league to do either way. Either. way, I'm not saying you're saying that. about, but is there a comparison going. on for you at all times? Yeah, it's it's. a really good question, Pat, because. like I just got out of an hour and a. half with our GM and our president of. hockey and we went through everything. like season and review. Um what players. we need to sign, free agents are, you. know, because we got a great farm system. in hockey with a bunch of young guys. We.

were scheduled to be about the 14th pick. in the draft. So now we're going up to. four, which is pretty incredible move. um and like go through who we're looking. at drafting. And we went through the. organization from top to bottom. And you. know, look, I'm I'm a hund times more, you know, kind of capable to have that. conversation than I was last year. But. I'm still like they shouldn't listen to. my direction yet, right? like when it. comes to players like like I'll be the.

first one to be like hire smart people. get the hell out of the way but do not. listen to me when it comes to like hey. what players or whatever or who I watch. on TV because like you know and other. owners are like oh I'm coming in we're. going to go yell at the scoreboard we're. going to win a championship and it's all. going to change and it never works out. right like so you you know and and I. don't know that Danny A has listened to. me once since he's been here so like. like that's that's probably a a good. thing but When when I got done with the. meeting, I said, "Hey, I would actually love to have this.

same present presentation with Danny, Jay-Z, and Coach Will and vice. versa because not because we want to. like they know anything about hockey, but their. questions will make sure that there's no. stone unturned." And and that's like a. really cool collab that we can do. And. that's the benefit of having it all in. the same family. There's only there's. only a couple of us where it's the same. ownership group through both. It's like.

MSG, Toronto. Um, a lot of people h. cities have two teams, but it's not the. same ownership. It's not all there. It's. not that $1 for each is okay either way. Like, so the collaboration is just a. little different. And so this is where. like we can all try to get better and. and I think there's a lot of synergies. that we take away. I'll give you an. example like this year we were playing. hoops and. um Will and I were at the hockey game on.

like a Tuesday night. We're playing. Dallas on Wednesday night and our team. hadn't really won at home and so it was. kind of getting a little nerve-wracking. there. But in the last period of hockey, we're up like 5 to2 in hockey with like. 6 minutes left. Like we got the game. Sorachev on our team dives in front of. like a 90 mph. slapshot. Freaking hits him in the head. and he's he's kind of like out and.

Will's like, "What what just happened?". And Lowry was there and was like, "Hey, like you got to get in front of. the puck. You have to dive in front of. the puck." He's like, "Yeah, but the. game's out of hand. We got it." Like, "No, you got to get in front of the. puck." And Will's like, "So, we go in. the next night and we beat Dallas.". There we go. And I get in the locker. room and Drew Eubanks is going around. going, "Hey, way to get in front of the. puck, guys. Way to get in front of the. puck." Oh, I love that. And I go to Will.

and I was like, "What did you do in film. session?" And he's like, "I just showed. like Sergy getting in front of the. puck." And he's like, "All I'm asking. you guys to do is get back on defense.". Wow. Right. No one's being asked to get. in front of a 90 mph. That's great coaching. I think and so. like the collab there is real where a. lot of times we all gather. inspiration from businesses outside of. our world because we're so close to it. like in in customer sat like we'd always.

have like agents for tech companies go. and observe you know the auto or fix. department at a Ford dealership because. no one wanted to be there or someone at. a funeral home. because they had to like deliver the. most amazing service on the planet. And. so you often get inspiration from those. other groups. And that was uh that's. kind of what we're seeing here. A lot of. collaboration. Yeah. Because you're.

learning a lot about something I assume. you didn't know much about beforehand. And then you're seeing how other people. do it. And let's talk about a little. bit. By the way, great pull for. motivation there by Hardy being like, "Hey, you think smack the wood a little. bit." Come on. Okay. Let's just smack. smack wood a little bit here. Okay. These guys are eating pucks in this. entire thing. Oh, let's let's talk about. the business side now of it because like. Sydney Crosby, I'm from Pittsburgh. He. just signed for like 8.7 million a year. I think it was 8.7 million a year. How. hard is it for you whenever they say,

"Hey, this is how much this is going to. cost." And it's like, "Yeah, we want to. do like how hard has that been?" Because. the NHL prices of contracts and. seemingly everything vastly different. than the prices of NBA stuff. And I. assume as an owner that is uh some. glaring things that you can see are. different on one side and the other or. how do you view that kind of and how do. you kind of balance that? Well, so first. the hard cap is real in hockey. It is.

real. So you actually have to make. trade-off decisions where in the NBA. it's very much like all right well we'll. do both. You know we got someone coming. up we'll sign them. We'll go up over and. we'll go into the tax. It's penalizing. The new second apron definitely makes it. a little more um impeding to go in, but. you can still keep a lot of your. players, whereas um in hockey like teams. are having to make real trade-off.

decisions. Um I did an interview up in. Canada and the first question was like, "Hey, what do you think about the cap. increasing 15% or whatever it is this. year? Can you believe it?" But I was. like, "Well, that's every. year. That's every year in the NBA." In. the NBA. Yeah. Yeah. And so it's. different, but the one thing I've. learned is like you you can't run in. front of I mean, AJ, you can't run in. front of your blockers. Like you've got. to look at where your team is and you.

can't just go in and say, "Hey, I'm. aggressive in every other aspect of my. life. I want to come in like you you. actually want to be able to build. sustainability." And look, on the Jazz. side, it's super painful for me to like. sit here and watch our organization down. to where we're not winning that much and. growing the talent, but I also know that. the pain is directly correlated with our. upside 100%. And you know, hockeyy's. been a little bit of a a breath of fresh.

air for Utah while we're going through. this, but we're not going to be down for. that long. We've got great people and. things switch. But definitely with a. draft coming up with a draft coming up, which in everything you were mentioning. earlier about, you know, Utah's never. never done it. Yeah, that's right. They've never done it. Wow. Utah could. do something they've never done before. Are we giving up leverage or are we just. talking about a potential reality. happening for the Utah Jazz? On that. note, Ryan Ty has a question for you.

Yeah, Ryan, a couple weeks ago, we had. LeBron in here and he was talking about. the NBA draft and he basically said. like, "Hey, I'm not going to outwardly. say it, but I don't think there's any. coincidence that like the Cavs won the. lottery the year I was in or the Bulls. won the lottery when Derrick Rose was. was there." Like this kind of stuff. tends to happen in the NBA. Obviously, you guys have the opportunity to get the. number one pick. Is there any worry that. the NBA is gonna somehow maybe screw you. guys over and and you won't have a fair. shake winning the lottery because you.

are Utah, you are a small market and. they maybe want to see Cooper Flag, you. know, go to Washington or something like. that with the success of, you know, the. the Washington Commanders and the the. Wizards have been so bad for so long. Like, does that creep into your head at. all or or not really? Is it kind of just. like, hey, the chips are going to fall. how they are and we just have to accept. that. Well, so my my head's a little. different because I don't believe we're. a small market. Like I look at what we. have in Utah and like big mammoth.

outside of our stadium and like an. airport that you can fly anywhere in the. world. Like we can go anywhere out of. Salt Lake. Like it's crazy. Um you got a. top three tech economy. You got 7. million people coming in here to ski. Like we have nothing in common with. small market. The only thing we have in. common with it is we don't people don't. move to Utah necessarily to live. downtown in that urban environment. But. you look at Park City, you look at where. we are. We have 250,000 college kids.

within 90 minutes. Like there is nothing. that is resembling We have the number. one economy in the country. What? With. the lowest unemployment. Yeah. And it's. been that way. And so, so we just have. we've had a branding problem for a long. time. Yeah. Well, and next year, you know, let's not forget about that. The number. one player in the country is going to. BYU. So, if the NBA does rig it, it's. probably going to be next year. I saw, you know, he he walked in when we were. playing. I mean, that kid looks like. he's ready right now. How'd he where did.

he end up going? Uh, not Utah. It was a. different school. He's not a Ute. It's a. Did he got a do this? No. No, it's a. school in Utah. This the number one overall number one. overall player for next year. Yeah, I'll. be a freshman next year. He didn't go to. Duke or He didn't go to Yukon. No, not. Yukon. West Virginia. He didn't go to. West Virginia. Well, that'd be dumb. Not. Not that. Not Kansas. Not Not Gonzaga. Not Texas. Not Texas. Where'd he go? He's a cook. He went to.

BYU. Yes, he did. Go CS. Hell yeah. Have you played basketball? I. assume you have. I have not played. basketball with them. My my my uh I have. a line of demar demarification that I. can cross there. So I I keep a little. bit of a distance there, but you know, we see each other, we give each other. the heads up like, "Hey, what's up?". Like cuz he's going to be he's going to. be in the league and he's going to be in. the league for a long time. And how'd he. end up at BYU? That's a crazy They.

offered him the most money. Yeah. Is. that what happened? I believe so. Big. donors. Is that what it was? So, hey, so. I will tell you straight up, he went to. school at Utah Prep. Um, they did not. offer him the most money. Um, there's a. great coach there in Kevin Young, uh, who came, he was an assistant coach for. the Phoenix Suns. He's basically got a. pro staff down there. Um, seems to be a. little bit of a trend of what's going. on. And, um, you know, he wanted to stay. in Utah. He BYU is an area where he was.

comfortable and can get locked in. I. mean, he's been on ESPN and talked about. it, but um great kid. Yeah, I would. imagine he's a great kid and he's an. incredible talent. Holy hell. Let's get. this guy in the Pacers. How do we get. this guy? How do you guard this guy? Yeah. What is Who's he play? These are. packed gyms. I assume these are big. games. I mean, he's just Yeah, it's Oh, he would dominate your ball is life game. at 6:00 a.m. So, could you imagine this. guy showing up at your 6 a.m. ball is.

life game? He breaks the rules on 67. Yeah, he's too tall. He's too tall. Holy. But I'm sure we'd slide. Big Jay. would love. He's going to BYU. Is BYU. good at hoops? They're going to be. really good this year. They I mean, we. made the sweet six sweet 16 last year. Yeah, they were filling up the Remember. they just had shooters all over the. place. Yeah. What was the um what. conference is that? Um Big 12. Oh, really? Big 12. You familiar? Yeah. Interesting. I don't like what's going. on over there at BYU. I I I think that I.

think we need to get we need to get this. Mountaineers got their guy. We need who? Mountaineers's got their guy. Who? The. new coach. Yeah, absolutely. From North Texas. Yeah, he's like the. Neil Brown of basketball. He is the. same. He has the same amount of letters. in his name as Neil Brown. Yeah. Yeah, he does. I remember he's a guy. They got. some guys now. They got some guys in the. portal. Paul White or something. Coach Dave Driscoll. He packs. He He's. He's Ross Hodgej. Ross. Ross Hodgej.

Yeah, he uh he he jumps in front of. pucks. All right, you got to get back to. your life. Yeah, I got to bounce. Hey, inspirational guys. We got a bunch of. new ideas. We're going big mammoth. We. got draft coming up. We should have. charged for this. Great to check in. We. will. Yeah. I got I got one more pretty. good one. Like you know how for the. Vikings they have the skull drum and. it's like at the center. You know, the. the Chiefs do it as well where they're. pounding the drum. If you had like a. mammoth head and then you had someone.

like go inside of it and then the the. the trunk m made a really loud noise to. start the game. Yeah, exactly. Would the. guy pop out like the K-pop guy like out. of the stage? Could like that dude where. he jumps. out. That's a great video of him. He. gets launched. He is awesome. the quadr. Yeah. All right. Something to think. about. All these things I hope are on. the table. ZTO also just dropped in my. ear. You need that that Zamboni needs to.

be obviously dressed up. Yeah. That's. that's just that's just happening. Okay. Ladies and gentlemen, Ryan Smith, we All. right. Congrats to him, man. Yeah. 40. what is he? 47. Yeah, 47. 47 years old. guy. I think there was something about. high school. something obviously was not. like supposed to be but he's just like. such a driven hardworking guy and just. like figures things out and like once I. learned his story cuz I was asked to go.

to the Utah Jazz game whenever we were. out there for college game day and we. did our show and there was a FI or. Canada Chan out there which was crazy to. even think about but it was a long. flight out there then we had our show. then we had game day the next morning I. was like I kind of I would like to go to. bed I'm actually pretty tired or. whatever you've been invited to go to. the Utah Jazz game I'm like thank you to. the Utah Jazz I'm. I'm going to go to bed. I'll talk about. it tomorrow. They'll say, "Thank you, Utah Jazz for inviting me." Then they're. like, "Ryan Smith, the owner, would like. you to uh come maybe sit with him or if. you don't want to sit with him, just. hang out and maybe uh shake his hand or.

whatever." And I was like, "The owner. would like to see me." They're like, "Yes." I'm like, "That's interesting. Have we said anything bad about the. Utah?" That's the first question. I. didn't know if it was a setup. I didn't. know if it was like a uh like, "Hey, uh. why are you saying this about us?" So, I. need to first we need to address whether. or not this person Do we got heat with. this guy? So then I Google him and it's. like learning his story about creating. surveys and how he got into it and. basically just hustle bustle bustle. sales company becomes a billionaire. sales company again becomes. multi-billionaire buys his hometown Jazz. team with like his friends and.

everything like because he loved the. Jazz played basketball grew up there uh. everything like that and then becomes. almost like a pseudo ambassador of Utah. uh the way he speaks about it the place. and he's like I want to make the I want. people to know that this place is. awesome so he's like ah I'm going to try. to get another sports team. I'm going to. try to get another sports team here. I'm. going to bid for an NHL team. And then. that kind of just pops up. It was like. he pitched and then I think there was a. downtime and then all of a sudden. something happens and it's like, "Hey, do you still want a team? This is how. much it's going to be and you can have.

an NHL team whatever tomorrow." And he. basically makes a decision like, "Yep, we'll do that. We'll figure it out. I. know nothing about this business or. anything like that. We'll figure it. out." And he has. It's like I feel like. he operates in a way that we would if. we, you know, if we if we had like Yeah. We Hell yeah. we wanted to we could yeah. we'll be able to figure it out. And then. his work ethic, attention to detail, and. then his ability to still create and be. relatable. He's still like a human, you. know. It's uh he's a young American. dream story that isn't really talked. about much, you know, cuz he's in Utah.

Yeah. Don't you don't you think like. that's what everyone like every little. kid if if you all of a sudden came into. a ton of money, what would you Hey, I. want to own my I want to own the team. that I watched growing up like and he. owns two of them now. Like that's he. created one out of nothing and and. brought a hockey team there. So yeah, I'd say that's uh that's every kid's. dream. That wouldn't be a bad deal. I. think him hoping four times a week at 6. a.m. That's sick. 47 years old would be. awesome to have that option. Yeah. To. execute it is a whole cuz I I I assume. they have rules. Everybody knows how to.

like in the NFL you got to know how to. practice. I assume they have rules on, hey, it's the key. This is how we're. going to play. Like Yeah. If somebody's. going really hard, okay, we just let. them get to the wreck. And if they uh. and they're not getting invited back. Yeah. And also Yeah. potentially no. invite. But we don't need anybody taking. any charges. We don't need anybody. trying to step in front. If people are. trying to get to the rack, you just go. ahead and let them. We We sacrifice a. point there and then we just kind of let. it roll. They got to be in such good. shape, too. Four times a week is insane. You say he's doing a three-minute sprint. thing. Yeah. 47 years old. That'd be.

tough. Those guys were working behind. him. I tell you what, that was that was. a doing the defensive slides with your. hands behind your back. That brought me. back to like Oh, there it is. There it. is. There it is. Wow. Who's coming after. me? It might be us. I think it might be. Oscar in throttle a little bit. Maybe we. gave him a ton of good ideas. Um, yeah, we did. There used to be a TV show with. Kristen Bell and Don Cheeto. I can't. remember the name. They were. consultants. House of Lies. House of L. It was a very, very good show. If we. ever wanted to do that, the consulting. role. Yeah. Think those are big time.

scam jobs. But I appreciate the fact. that people get paid a lot of money for. it. Yeah. That's what I mean. That's. what I'm talking about. And we would. [ __ ] be so good at Hey, you did. something good before. Why don't you. come in and have no real accountability. if it doesn't work? Perfect. That'll be. $750,000. That's a dream job. You got. it. Those exist. I didn't know those. jobs existed whenever I was growing up. I don't think it's like, well, you got. to accomplish something first. Once you. accomplish something, then all of a. sudden you are a potential. consultant now. Mhm. Yeah. But it's not. your money. It's not your business. So,

it's awesome. Could say whatever. There's got to be There's got to be a. few good ones out there, though. Definitely. I think I think consultants. have definitely on the internet for. sure. There is there's consultants I. think that are probably worth hundreds. of millions from their consulting and. what they do and stuff like that. How. about I learned about uh I learned about. Warren Buffett a little bit, you know, whenever we were in Omaha, you know, because he's from there. He's retiring, I guess. Is that what they're saying? Did you hear this? Yeah. At the end of. the year. I did not know Warren. Buffett's retiring. He's old. Yeah, he's. like 94 or something. So, he's just been.

the guy for forever. Forever. Like every. year it's like he's the guy again. Yeah. Mhm. Birkshar Hathway. What a run. How's. he know? He knows everything. He owns. all the land. McDonald's every morning. So McDonald's. Same meal. Drinks Coke. Mhm. He does. Basically, Debbone drinks. Coca-Cola. Oh, Debbone can't see what's. going on tomorrow. I think that's what. Warren Buffett can do very well. He. can't see what's going on right now. Debbone's an interesting guy. Debo, you're the best, dude. Boner. Debone.

All right, let's get the hell out of. here. We'll be back tomorrow. Shout out. to Ryan Smith's joining us. Awesome. Shs. stopping by. Did he tell us anything? He. broke down the uh Insider Pope game. pretty well. Yeah. Yeah. He That was. I'll tell you what, Pope Leo, what an. underdog story. It's a big deal though. First American ever, right? That was a. huge deal. Yeah. Huge. Yeah. And we c I. feel like we celebrated accordingly. Yeah. You know, we did. I don't think we. and I might speak for myself here fully.

understood the severity of the situation. and how big of a deal it was. But I love. celebrating stuff and uh white smoke. came for United States of America. I. like that. It's good for us. It's good. for a world. Let's get back in a good. stand. Exactly. And I think I think Pope. Leo with everybody. I think Pope Leo is. going to be a great speaker. Good. representative. Yeah. He he knows Latin. I would assume. Yeah. He is he probably. knows Latin fluently. I I would assume. he has to know Italian, so cuz he had. had to know what the [ __ ] everyone else. was saying there. He probably speaks.

like seven languages, I would guess. Not. a lot of time. Mhm. Yep. Not a lot of. time to learn stuff. And for the sou. commander-in-chief is going to take. credit for this. I mean, it's good for America. It is. good for America. Pope Leo. Mhm. Anointed the. 266th pope. There a lot of popes. I know. when I fought that. Who? Spirit. Amen. Who you what you just. Okay. So that's father. Yeah. Father,

son, holy. I heard padre there. Is that. Latin? Yes. And what was the second one? Espirante. Espirante. Mhm. The Holy. Spirit. Yes. What a love language that. is, right? I mean, that sounds really. cool. Yeah, it does. I don't think I'll. ever say father, son, holy spirit ever. again. It's leadre. Yeah. Enum padre. illuminad. illuminad. enom padre padre.

espantto. of course you remember. oh one more time numeadre. espanto numeadre. yeah there you go pretty much got it. pretty much speaking now. Yep. Exactly. I'll tell you what. I'm going to lock. that one in. What a day. What a day. I. This is a big day for me. Yeah. Aluminina Padre and Phoenix.

All right. Congrats to Pope Leo. That's. not his name, though. He's Pope Bob. We. need to That needs to be Bob Pos. He's. Bob Post out of Chicago. Guy went to. Villanova. Okay. Little Bobby Pos out of. Chicago is now Pope Leo way of Pope Bob. Bingo. Yeah. So, we need to remember. that. All right. Shout out to Sege Geek, today's sponsor. Uh they're the greatest. ticket buying platform on planet Earth. and the moon. They have over 30 million.

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whenever they come out. Anything you. need, they got tickets for. Shout out to. Seek. Shout out to you, AJ. Great day. today, pal. Yep. Shout out to you guys. Good job. People are saying on the day. of the Pope, your hair is doing the uh. Oh, I got a Wait, the Yamaka situation. again. Yeah, that's what people are. saying today. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. Maybe that's my thing. It could be. Why. not? I mean, maybe that's just what I. look like, I guess. I don't know. I need. a trim, too. I for sure. Oh, you need to. get you need to get the barber. You need. to get the barber in there. MVP. treatment. I'll trim it up. Boys had a. barber in today. Boys had a barber in.

today. Oh, nice. Yeah. It's interesting. because like my schedule, so when I'm at. RAW, there's a barber there named Josh. This guy cut my hair a long time ago. Like uh when we were with NXT, Adam. Cole. Yeah. That whole era. Yeah. Cut. him off. Yeah. That whole that whole co. era. Yeah. Co era. So we had known him a. long time. So when I'm He's at Raw now. He's been So these barbers like work. different shows or whatever. So I I saw. him at Raw the first time and just for. good old days, I said, "Hey, you got. time?" And he's like, "You got it." So. I've been getting my haircuts on.

Mondays, which kind of messed up the. barber in office trend for me. But I'm. happy the boys got cleaned up today. Do. you see? One of the greatest perks in. the business right there. Did you see. how cool JC looked today? You mean every. day? I don't know what he looks like. every day. I just know whenever he looks. how he looks whenever he comes in here. Once a week he looks great. He looks so. cool. I don't know if he coolest looking. guy of all time. AJ long hair. I've seen. him. I've seen him a few times. Yeah. I. mean, the dude is uh I'm sure he's up on. all the trends, everything all the young. kids do. There's a guy named Mikey who. works for the uh WWE who's a barber,

too. Mhm. Cool looking [ __ ]. barbers. We're talking mullet cur like. old school. long. He's got some some snake skins. boots that look awesome. Always dressed. like he just got done with a concert. Oh, okay. It's a good look. Just got. done with a concert. Always. Never seen. him. Not fresh. Always cool. He's the. other barber right there with Josh. Great group. Great duo there. Good vibes. over there. WWE so cool. Speaking of.

WWE, on Saturday I have a fight with. Gunther. [ __ ] yeah. Forgot about this. week. A mammoth of a man. Mhm. Getting. through it. Former world champion. I. will fight him because he was bullying. people around and I don't like it. Especially whenever you disrespect. Michael Cole like that. Think about how. good Michael Cole has been for us. He's. the best. He's the goat. He's going. crazy over this Nick stuff. I mean, he's. going absolutely crazy over this Nick. stuff. I'm happy to see him have a. little bit of happiness. I'm happy to. see him get a little bit of shine. because for a long time, people didn't.

necessarily love Michael Cole. They. said, "Wow, this guy, this guy needs to. stop doing his job on the WWF and the. WWE." A lot of people said that for a. long time now. People were understanding. and respecting everything that Michael. Cole has done for the business. He's. beloved. He's allowed to do whatever he. wants. And going through just didn't. like how biased we were in his match. with Jay Uso. He said we were. disrespectful, yada yada yada. And then. he said, "I'm going I'm going to choke. on a 60-year-old." It's like, okay, [ __ ] That's how we got here. And.

now I'm in a fight with a man who's uh. in his. prime, younger than me, world champion a. couple weeks ago, literally has very. rarely lost in WWE. And he's also a. pretty physical specimen. He's violent. He's a violent man. He's very violent. Maybe the most violent. Could be. arguably maybe the most violent. Might. be the most violent. Sometimes you got to do what you got to. do. That's right. That's the mindset. going in. You know, that's the mindset. going in, AJ. That's how it's got to be, AJ. That's how it's got to be. I can't.

wait, man. I'm sure you're excited, but. yeah, I I it is wild to think you're. getting back in there. Like, that's a. that's a situ that's a big deal. Like, it really is. Yes. This is a uh this. Yeah, I'd say you can't mail this in. You can't just mail this in. You can't. just like, "Yeah, I'll be go let me go. do this a little bit and get out of. here." Like, no, this is a real deal. Yeah. This is a Yeah. Yeah. A lot. Yeah. That's all kind of settling in, too. But, hey, you got to do. you got to do what you got to do, especially whenever you say it. You got. to do it. Like that's what life is. So, you know, I've been hopefully I'm in a.

good spot. I Odds are way desperate as. they should be. Long shot, brother. I. don't know. Did he Did he host a Sweet. Science show last weekend? Yeah, that's. right. I was around the boxing. community, wasn't I? Picked up a couple. things. I wasn't I wasn't I maybe throw. more punches than they did. Yeah, cuz. he's thinking the kicks are coming, which by the way, they might still. alive. Still alive. Stronger than ever, actually, cuz you remember I ripped my. hip flexor, so I had to rehab that. Mhm. So now it's stronger than it's ever. been. So we got obviously a lot of.

thunder and lightning downstairs, but. don't look upstairs. There's a storm. coming here, too. You know, I I I think. that'll get added into it. Now, he is. also has uh some he has some uh pretty. powerful some heavy mits. Yeah. Mits. chops. He has like a a skillet. Pride pans. Yeah. Yeah. Joe Flaco. Exactly. In that. photo. Grank 12 million views on that. photo. Why is there so many views on. that photo? Wow. Just two Super Bowl.

quarterbacks taking a drop back. Yeah, it's a zoom in photo that really got. him. 12 million views. That's a very. that performed very well. I assume the. Cleveland Brown social media people were. like, "Hey, look at here." Okay, we put. out uh what we thought was going to be a. good uh interaction. Um actually became. a great one. 12 million views. We think. we need to do a little bit more of this. We think we needed a little bit more. side by sides, a little bit more two. handsome guys just playing the football. game for the Cleveland Browns. Let's go. and let that hit. And then I guess what.

had happened was the reason why I had so. many views is people were judging the. size of Kenny Picket's hands yet again. Okay, Kenny's been dealing with this. since he came out of college. In. college, absolute beast. Led Pit to an. ACC championship. Pit, no offense to. Pit, but Pit understands reality. Won. the ACC with him. He was a dog. First. round draft pick, comes and plays for. the Pittsburgh Steelers, which obviously. he was at school there for a long, it. does not work out. Okay. He ends up. getting traded to Philadelphia Eagles.

He becomes a Super Bowl champion. He get gets traded to the Cleveland. Browns in the middle of a quarterback. question mark that is bigger than I. think we have seen in some time. It's. certainly the most expensive question. mark that we've seen in some time. And. all anybody wants to talk about is the. same thing from way before he was a. Super Bowl champion and a whole. different guy. It doesn't matter for. guys like Kenny Picket. He's able to. spin it and he has the gloves on. Sure. Okay. Kurt Warner wore them at the end. Ben Wthersburgger wore it at the end. Pton Manning wore gloves at the end. Uh.

Teddy Bridgewwater wore gloves. I mean, there's a lot of people that have wore. gloves, but I do think the people say. the gloves and sitting next to Joe. Flacco who has Gunther like hands just. it was pretty negative reaction for. that. But Kenny, hey, you're a Super. Bowl champion and we would like him to. know we like him as a human and we think. he's just fine in the hands department. We love Kenny as a human. Uh got to meet. Kenny. Got to spend time with Kenny. He's a guy that you can have a beer. with. You're on a softball team. I was. on a softball team with Kenny. Uh. teammates, he was awesome teammates. He.

was a great teammate. Um the internet. has not been kind to him. I don't like. what they're doing with his hands thing. And there's this new thing that they're. doing. They're saying that his fake. slide set the Steelers organization back. five years. I don't like them saying. that either. I don't think they should. Oh, you're talking about a pit in the. middle of the field where he ran and. then incredibly athletically. dropped the hip fake and then Yeah, like. flag football like a flag football move. basically drops that thing and then. skirts around cuz he has the quickness. of a cat and he's in the first round. That's why he was a first round draft. pick and uh yeah, they had to change.

that rule because people said if that's. how we're going to play, we're going to. go ahead and yeah, we're going to take. quarterback's heads off. We're going to. take do that one. Might as well. But nonetheless, Saturday night. That's. right. There it is. Saturday night in a. ring that's similar to that one. Shout. out to Chad Patton and team for bringing. a WWE ring here. They obviously seen the. ring that I had purchased whenever I was. a young lad in the NFL on the internet. and they said, "Hey, we can send a ring,

man." And I go, "You know what? You. should probably do. that. I don't know how long this thing's. living here. Looks pretty good where. it's at. It's great. It's great. Doesn't. isn't really that big of a distraction. to much. Things can still happen around. it, but boy, it is uh it's a beautiful. ring. Oh, yeah. I mean, that last one. was a good ring. It was a good ring. No. two ways about it. It was a good It was. a good ring. It Yeah, this one you might. break your neck trying to do some. acrobatics off the top rope, but it was. a good ring. Yeah, we didn't know what. was going to happen. Our rope did snap.

A little dangerous activity to be, you. know, wondering, is this thing going to. hold up? We didn't have the pads outside. or the uh stairs that do not budge or. the chairs for people to watch, which we. thought there was a chance Debbone was. gonna be Oh, he's gonna He will. Thought. there was a chance Debo would be sitting. there. He's going to. All right. Well, I. can't wait for that. Can't wait for. tomorrow. We're going to have feel good. Friday. Then we got uh we got big games. tonight. Warriors, Timberwolves tonight. 8:30 on TNT. Hurricanes Capitals as the. NHL playoffs continue. Hurricanes up 1.

That's 7 o'clock on ESPN. Then 9:30 on. ESPN, game two of the Oilers Golden. Knights series. The Oilers currently up. 10. Yeah, I got to have it. Stoner had. two goals and then Mc Jesus and the boys. rattled off four straight last game. Yeah, Ne Stoner's hot. Obviously need. Jackie Aces. This This needs to be a. Jackie Aces game tonight. Ladies and. gentlemen, TMZ has. reported that Aaron Rogers has been. spotted without a ring on. Made marriage. speculation. This guy gets it, man.

This guy gets it. He's just He's the. best. He's a He's a puppet master and. we're all playing his game. Such a. menace. Yep. He's got us He's got us in. the palm of his hand. Watch this. I'll. wear a wedding ring at the derby. I'll. just put my left hand on the outside and. watch them all. Everybody's Now, we know. as newly wed sometimes it's it's weird. to get used to the first that first. week. That is true. Maybe he got a. divorce. I've seen that in Entourage. Remember old buddy?

Might have been working out. Maybe he's. clanging and banging. Maybe he's doing. yoga. It's too hot hot yoga. Yeah, maybe. he's golfing. He forgot to put it back. on. Maybe he's not married. What? Is that a possibility? No. Not in my. mind. Me neither. He's married to the. game. Think about how happy he is. whenever that happens. Is that what Is. that why you said there wasn't much. clarity? Because you were like, there's. no way you just did this just to. uh honestly, I don't know. I I'm trying. to figure it out as well. You guys as. well. So, are you surprised? Okay. Is.

are you surprised the ring is off now? Uh, I'm not surprised by anything to be. honest with you. Did you see the ring. off at any point over the weekend? I don't believe so. No. Okay. When you. showed up, the first thing you saw was. Ring. Is that accurate? Uh, yeah. Pretty. early on. Yeah. I would notice. Was it a. rubber ring? I assumed I assumed it was. like the the sleep tracker thing at. first, though. Aura and then you told. him like, well, what's the Aura gimmick. thing telling you about? Is that what.

you asked? Like, how's your sleep cycle, man? Are you getting 90% recovery? Is. that what you asked? Yeah, I mean, yeah, I I would say stuff like that. Didn't. get too many answers or or any really, but yeah. AJ Hawk is in the TMZ article is saying, "Oh, goodness. Come on now." He told. Pat, "Well, we got to buy these uh. socks. Ortho feet are very comfortable.". Uh, one of Aaron Rogers former Packers. teammates spent a bunch of time with the. quarterback out in Louisville for York. He told Pat McVy this week there was.

zero explanation behind the sudden. appearance of the ring. Okay, no update. from the situation. Hawk said Tuesday, I'm not going to lie. All right, they got you there. They quoted me. I can't believe you said. that. I can't. No update from the. situation. I'm not going to lie. respect. That's a great AJ Hawk book. That is a great that is Oh, that's. awesome. It seems dumbbells, not wedding.

bells, are his priority. It said at the. bottom of that. That's a great line, too. For now, we. all appear to know. All we appear to. know is that Rogers is in a serious. relationship with a woman named Britney. Outside of that, it seems dumbbells. All. wedding bells are Brian. That's a bar. Who wrote this? Yeah. Who? That's Harvey. Webb. Shakespeare. Uh, is it all Harvey every time? Is that. like Pro Football Talk? I always assume. it's Florio. Is that how that works? But.

there are other writers on Pro Football. Talk. Yeah. That there's a David fella. Yep. Okay. And uh, is that it? I think. there's like three or four maybe because. anytime I see Pro Football Talk tweet, I. just go that's Florio. But then every. once in a while there's a quote like of. an article that is tweeted out and I'm. like, okay, is this a Florio article or. not? Is this all Harvey? I don't think. so. And then the other guy. Um I did. their show one time whenever I was uh I. was like Harvey, I've been watching you.

for years, buddy. People's Core. I. remember the whole thing, dude. You were. uh Yeah, I would love to do an. interview. What was the guy? His. co-host. The guy the guy with the. dreads. Yeah, I think you probably is. co-owner at this point. You would soon. Anyways, AJ, they know you. They're. listening to you. Don't be a leak. Don't. be a rat. Yeah, Charles. I'll try not. Charles. Charles what? I think it's. Charles. Charles Davis. Was he on there? I don't know how to pronounce Charles. Davis. I How's he doing? Good. He can do. anything. He's now the lead uh lead. college football announcer for CBS.

Really? Yes. Congratulations, CD. One. Yeah, cuz uh energy. Good energy. He has. a football in the studio, which I like. Gary. Gary Danielson retired. Congrats. to Gary. Hell of a career. Hell of a. career. Voiced over a lot of magical. moments. Movies too, right? Yeah, he may have been in a couple. Was. he in Water Boy? He might have been in. Water Boy. I know. Dan Fouts was Oh, yeah. Yeah. Right. Right. Those sports. uh people getting into the sports movies. is always like feels like a step for, you know, Yeah. Burman in Longest Yard. Well, Dan.

Patrick's in every Sangler movie, isn't. he? Yeah. The whole crew is I I think. it's Or is it just Dan? I mean, the. whole there's Oh, yeah. I don't know if. everybody, but Yeah. Dan Patrick always. pops up. Hey, Sandman's a weapon, dude. Happy When's Happy Gilmore 2? When's. that come out? July. This summer? Yeah. It has to be good. I assume it has to be. good. I sure hope so. I mean, Post. Salamman Hits. Sammon Hits. Hustle is a. great movie. No, I agree. It's anytime. you have this much space in between a.

sequel, they just Well, they're trying. to relaunch the thing because a lot of. people don't know the original. They're. going to try to watch. They're going to. try to get a lot of people that had. probably don't know, haven't followed. the original. So, they got to create. this as its own thing basically. Right. Definitely. Yeah. But it's just like I. mean we've seen it happen but like first. Dumb and Dumber same thing. It's like. you you eventually like I assume that. that Dumb and Dumber one was so bad. That was a bummer. That that was bummer. too was really good. Hot Tub Time. Machine 2. Well, actually that was. pretty good. But I assume that Sandman.

wouldn't make this if he didn't like the. script and he didn't think like people. will enjoy cuz ultimately he's the one. who's given the yes or no. Yeah. And we. all just view Sandman as movie creator. Yeah. Like even a movies where he's just. an actor or a voice actor in I assume. Sandman created it because of how much. money he gets paid to create things and. how much [ __ ] I want. I like I think he. is Hey, Grown-Ups 2 was good. I don't think I remember it. Huie. Halloween so good. He needs to make. Hotel Transennsylvania 4. Yes, there is.

a four, isn't there? I I don't know. I. think there's a four. What? He needs to. keep making them. They're so good, aren't they? Love Hotel Trans. The woman. Frankie loves it. They're good. They're. good. Yeah, McKenzie loved Hotel. Transennsylvania. Blah blah blah. Yeah, it's a [ __ ]. great show. He did. I don't think he. created it, though. Hotel. Transennsylvania. Really? That's. surprising. Seems like he did, right? That feels. like a Sam. He had to. He must have. All. right, we'll get the hell out of here. We'll see you tomorrow. What a waste of.

time here at the end, but it was a good. conversation. Congrats to Pope Leo. Hell. yeah. Yep. Shout outs. Pretty proud of. Pope Leo. Me, too. Just a kid from Chicago. That's right. Chicago. who takes over his Chicago church now. He's been long gone from there, I. assume. Right. Has he has he been over. there forever now? I guess. Yeah. I. don't know. Do you have to do like an. internship? I saw he was doing a lot of. stuff in South America. Yeah. I don't. think so. But if he's in line to become. a pope, he's probably overseeing a. massive uh arch dascese somewhere.

What's that mean? Arch dascese like the. like you'd be stationed in like a city. or something and then you oversee like. all the churches within that. Like so if. you were like the you know running like. the arch dascese of Chicago like I there. are a shitload of Catholic churches in. like the Chicagoland area that like he. would oversee all those and he lives in. what what would he live in at that. point? Yeah. Um like is there an arch. seminary or whatever? No. Whenever he's. the the overseer of the arch d I think. they live pretty good. There'd be like a.

basilica or something. Again I don't I. don't know. I'm just talking from. personal experience here. Like there'd. be like a basilica or like the church, you know, like the biggest church that. he works out of and then there would be. like a rectory like right next door. which is like just like his house pretty. much that's like attached to the church. or like near it. What a wild business, you know, cuz I mean you can climb the. ranks you probably want to. Do you have. to deliver the best sermons and then. people word gets out that you deliver. great sermons? How that's probably part. of it. I'm honestly I'm I'm not sure. because we've never had an American guy.

be the pope. So, I really I don't even. know like how obviously he's super super. well respected. So, like I do wonder how. it goes. I wonder how it goes. Hopefully. being like a a great communicator would. be one of the top traits you have to. have. I would assume so. Everyone likes. you. But this last pope, he hasn't been. able to talk for some time. Allegedly, he was tight with the last pope. So, it. may have been a uh Oh, he hand selected. him. I don't I don't think you could do. that with the but I think he probably. gave him a ringing endorsement.

133 Cardinals did the voting is what we. read from uh the I paper. Shout out to. their YouTube stream today. Yeah, it was. huge. Felt like we were there. It did. That was sick. Everything they did we. thought was the announcement. Mhm. Old. buddy comes out and cuts a promo in that. big microphone. Yep. That was great. All. the lads kind of on the windows. Them. opening their doors in such. demonstrative fashion. Jacked up. So. jacked up. You didn't get the walking. right, too, by the way. What's that? You. got the walking correct. He did just. come in and start waving. Oh yeah, we.

didn't get a chance to see the. beginning. We did see him though. Peter. Shreger was in the middle of a great. take, buddy. First time we're seeing. this. Got a cut here. Sherger having. some inside information on the Pope. thing was fascinating. Yeah. No, I'm not. shocking though. That's Trager. He said. he was getting texts that there was some. other cardinals that were up for the. Popemanship saying that they they this. guy's already crying. This is not what. we need from the Pope. That's what T. said he was hearing. Now, that's We. don't know if his sources are in there. or not, but seems like they keep a. pretty tight circle over there. Smoke.

signals. That's right. Old school. 266. popes. How long is that? Long time. Long. time. Yeah. Yeah. When was the first? I. I couldn't tell you. The 1600s AD. Yeah. What's that? 30 AD. There you go. 30 AD. There's been a pope in place for a long. time. Paul the first pope. Some people. contest that the Roman Empire never. really went away. It just morphed into. the Vatican and the Catholic Church. because where is the Catholic's home?

Vatican City or Rome which is in where? Italy. It's technically its own little. thing, but Rome was there two uh two. summers ago. How was it? Foxy cultured. Absolutely beautiful. We went through. this church that was the longest church. you'll ever see. You're going through. tunnels. It took like 2 hours. It was. insane. It was awesome. So, whenever. you're walking through this church, is. there the pews everywhere? Like some. people are in way way way way way back. and there's like one priest up in the. front door. I would actually like. consider it more of a museum and then. you're going like room to room to room. to room and you're seeing all sorts of.

stuff and then it leads to like the most. beautiful church I've ever seen in my. life. They you weren't even allowed to. take photos or videos there. So it was. it was pretty cool. Candles and. everything I assume, right? Massive the. whole deal. The music exactly what. you're thinking of. Candles, all of it. What's uh Notraam? I went to Notraon. whenever I played soccer over there as a. teenager and all they kept saying was. see it all. You know, they were yelling. at us to be quiet. We couldn't take any. pictures, but it is like such a Holy. hell, what a beautiful spectacle feet of. our You've been to the one in Barcelona? I Yeah, that one was under construction.

pretty heavily. Yeah, it has been for. like 250 years. Under construction? Yes. So beautiful though. When they when they. finish it up, I assume they're still. under construction right now. I think. they recently fit. I could be just. talking out of my ass most likely, but I. thought they recently. Foxy, thanks for. going over there and being cultured for. us. Yeah, it was awesome. Did you sit. down. and sad? No, I didn't do any of that. Why not? Because I'm a big Hey, let's go see this.

thing. Let's get through this thing. Awesome. Take some photos. Take some. videos even though you couldn't. And. then let's go get a little drink after. Okay. Boo. Exactly. Classic. You could. have stayed probably got a little bit of. a drink, which we don't know if Pope Leo. is going to change. Did you hear us. talking about that? A little. brainstorming for the Pope, too. Maybe a. little bit more. Mhm. Mhm. Maybe little. more food. Yeah. A little more of the. Yeah. Food and drink. Some vodka. Yeah. You don't need different options. Let's. not disrespect vodka. What's up? Sprinkle it in just for water. Yeah. Just a little sauce. Yeah. Gota be able.

to work vodka into a story somewhere. Exactly. You should bring up your own. fifth and be like, "This is what I. want." I I think it's pretty early to be. boozing everybody that does it. I heard. it's beortic. It could be. It is. old style Chicago. What a change that. would be just for the entire Yeah, people wouldn't love that. Maybe hot dog. water. or or little pieces of hot dog. I was. talking to a guy from Chicago yesterday. We're talking about the whole uh you. know mustard ketchup thing. What a. convo. Just because we're from.

Pittsburgh Hines. So yeah, I put ketchup. on a hot dog. That's become a sin now by. the way. Bingo. Yeah, exactly. That's. literally how the guy was talking. yesterday. It was awesome. Ketchup on a. hot dog. You're not supposed Chicago. people consider themselves hot dog. people, even though they don't enjoy the. best tasting hot dog, which is a hot dog. with ketchup on it. They actually think. you can't put ketchup on a hot dog. It's. just a mustard type operation. None of. it makes sense to me either, brother. I. have no idea how that started for them. They're missing out. They are missing. out big time. Definitely. They need to.

just kind of put that one to rest with. the last pope. Yeah. You know, Pope Leo. from Chicago, you flush it. Just flush. Bury the ball. Bury the ball. That was a. bad decision by you guys. You shouldn't. have done it. If this goes in, the. Mammoth are going to win. Okay, sweet. Yeah, Western Conference is tough. Yeah. No cheats. There's another Oh, they got. maybe Jazz there. All right. If this goes in, Jazz have. number one overall pick. Okay. Never.

done. Oh, no. Yeah, he's going to Chicago. Fisk goes in. I win. Okay. Okay. Yeah. Oh my god. Bonus ball. Bonus ball. Bonus. ball. Bonus ball. Oh [ __ ] Well, you. jump over the lava. Shoot it from the green. That was almost. more devastating than that. Hit the. flag, didn't it? Yeah. Look how small. that is. Look how much space there is.

And it hit that. I don't like that one. bit. So it crushed uh Tigers um one. masters. He'd have to hit the flag. Rolled in the water. Yep. There's so much room for it not to hit. Go anywhere. Could just bounce right. back to me. B no bonus balls. No bonus. balls. That's right. We got another day. tomorrow. That's right. Mhm. We'll ask. the universe again tomorrow if we're. lucky enough to wake up. We'll be. appreciative for it and we can't wait to. chitchat about sports and life with you. again. Be a friend. Tell a friend. something nice might change your life. We're in this thing together. Team on.

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