The Pat McAfee Show Live | Thursday June 26th 2025

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world. For instance, last night there. were some baseball games on. That was. fun. Hey, baseball. stuff going on. That's good. And the. NBA's first round of their draft. And. there was obviously some drama building. Where's Ace Bailey going to go? These. guys turned down workouts as he won't. go. He goes number five overall to Utah. Absolute dog on the basketball court. Uh. Utah would also pick up uh Walter. Clayton Jr. at number uh 18 out of. Florida. Uh he was a bucket getter for. the entire of March Madness. Obviously.

national champion. We saw him watch him. He's 22 years old though, so he's a. little bit older and all these other. guys are getting drafted at 1819. A lot. of people saying the Utah Jazz had a. massive night on the court. Now how will. everything else work out? We shall see. We'll be joined by uh Ryan Smith, owner. of the Utah Jazz and owner of the Utah. Mammoth. Toss up toss up. toss up toss up. He was in the uh the draft war room or.

the draft war room for the Utah Jazz. while also having to handle business. with the Mammoth. The mammoth make a. massive trade of buffalo saber JJ. Pa purka It's on me. Well, where he comes from, it's probably. Peter. Yeah, I was trying to just be as. cultured as I possibly could. Sure. He's. from Germany. Purka. Uh, so he would say. nine to all of my negativity. Anyways, all is good. Um, spre Deutsch just a.

tiny bit, but anyways, he's headed uh to. Utah. A lot happening around Roder Lions. goes to BYU earlier in the week uh after. his mission obviously. Then Utah Jazz. have the draft that they have. Then the. Mammoth make a massive trade. I mean. there's a lot going on in Utah. Ryan. Smith will join us. We can't wait to. catch up with him. Sean Shirania will. join us at uh about 12:40 12:45 Eastern. Hey, what were some surprises last. night? Sean, what were some bad. conversations that were happening that.

maybe never came to light? What were. some opportunities? What are some. expectations for this evening? And what. is everybody saying about how everybody. else did in the draft? Seams wasn't. tipping picks last night. No. Well, then. he started to cuz when a trade happens, he's going, "Yeah, they're trading blah. blah blah. Who's with blah blah blah?". Couple things ahead. So, we're learning. who's getting picked. And then we're. also learning you're not going to be. there. You're going to be in a different. place. The NBA needs to figure that out. big time. They need to figure the hats. First of all, I thought we were over. this. I thought we're done with the. hats. The hats never fit. Nope. The hats.

never fit and they never look good. Let. alone the fact when you got put a hat on. and then on a screen it's saying you. it's getting traded to a different team. but in a draft you're saying you do. that. Can can we not just say you know. what it's real confusing? Yeah. Can we. can we just put the team that traded. just in there? Exactly. And just say. congratulations and instead of it being. like traded to as the small one, shouldn't traded from be the small one? where they're at now should be the big. one in my head just as somebody that was. trying to watch and learn the entirety.

of it last night. That was that was. pretty confusing. That was pretty that. was a pretty confusing situation. Now I. understand this probably how it's been. for a long time. I know the hats thing. has always been a part of it. Like they. don't fit in the NFL ever. They they. they really should at least maybe. options, you know, maybe scarf. Yeah, maybe uh it's like a pin to put on their. blazer. Boom. Right on on sick. A lot of. sick fits. Great. A lot of sick. See a. guy with no shirt underneath. Yeah, that's L Moxy. I like that type of. confidence. Would like that guy on my.

team. I guess he Bob. Yeah, I think he. he locks down on defensive side. But the. hat thing obviously they never fit. It. always looks You make the person look. immediately stupid and they're trying to. get introduced to the league, you know, into their team and their fan base. I. mean, always guy. How about the guy out. of China? He's sitting up in his. auditorium eating his knees. Oh, yeah. That's Yang Hansen. Yeah, it is, isn't. it? He's the guy. He is the guy. He's. going to be Rich Paul represents him. Uh. we see Rich Paul at the end of this. video here. That guy's eating his knees. up in the auditorium. How you doing?

Thanks for coming to America from China. He was supposed to be a second round. draft pick. Holy It's happening. right now. Here we go. I'm off and. running. They start showing his. highlights. We're talking no look. passes. Like got a lot of got a lot of. yoka in his a lot of joker in his. game. Wasn't supposed to be until the. middle of second round. There's Rich. Paul say hey come on. Good to see you. That's good. I love that. Rich Paul is. about to run tonight. We'll talk to. Sean's about 12:40. See what we should. expect for this particular I'm excited. to see what happens with uh Yang Hansen. Me too. Favorite player of the dress.

Legit up in the auditorium because he's. supposed to come tonight. Tonight's. supposed to be the night. But he's. coming from China so we got to get. there. We might as well go watch the. show at least. You're drafted, Bob. Congratulations. Welcome to Memphis via. Yeah, you get it. Then that's that whole. Yeah, I'm not even sure what team he's. on. Portland. Portland. Okay, there you. Yeah, he's a trail. Say him and Jar. But. look, it says like just do the thing. He. just He's at Portland. Yeah. Why do they. do that? He is Portland. I'm sure some. basketball purist is going to tell us. that we don't know what we're talking.

about, which happens a lot. Believe it. or not, we are told we don't know what. we're talking about a lot. Now, I will. say if you were to revisit those. conversations a little bit further down. the road, might be a whole new. conversation at the time. But we are. just your basic doofuses and whenever. we're trying to learn about your. and that's we we had some names. little. leeway. That's what I was gonna say. At. least the broadcast was flawless. I. mean, it was a uh it was a it was a lot. of different options to watch. Obviously, there was a ABC option. There. was an ESPN option. There was a ESPN. radio option. I believe there was a.

digital option as well. So, they did the. full takeover of the draft. I think a. lot of people didn't know that there was. other options. Saw a lot of that. Saw a. lot of that on the internet. Mhm. That's. like whenever we do our draft. spectacular and uh people start uh. tweeting or whenever we do our simal. cast, when we do the alternate cast of. games, when we're on the sidelines, people will start tweeting uh about how. terrible we are for the game and how is. this what ESPN's ruining college. football like for for us. They have no. idea that Kirk and Fowler l Yeah. One.

down just if you were to do that. Simple. So that happens with the draft. I think there should be maybe a heads up. that Yeah, you can find this in a couple. different places. And maybe they did. Maybe we didn't we weren't paying. attention, but I was bouncing around. It. was good. I thought it was a good show. I thought it was a good show, especially. when there's nothing uh no other sports. to watch. I'd rather have that than uh. Love Island. Ain't that right, Foxy? Did. you watch NBA last night or did you. watch Love Island? I watch NBA. Actually, last night Love Island was. off. See, but he would have been It's. only off two days a week and last night. was one of them. I think he would have. been a little bit Oh, and when you guys.

get back after those two days, so much. is happening. Thursday episodes are. crazy. Sunday episodes are crazy. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. See, that's where we're at. now. That's where we're at now. Yeah, whenever we're talking about the second. round of the NBA draft tonight, deal. with us, okay? We're going to ask Shoms. a question about the second round of the. NBA draft. And just know in the moment, we do care, okay? We do want to know the. answer. Cuz all these guys are going to. go on to be super strong. That's right. Who was the number one pick uh last. year? Uh Zachary Ricochet, I think.

Something like that. Yeah. I I know it. doesn't look like it's that's how it's. pronounced, but I I have heard people. say it like that. Okay. So he was first. pick overall last year. He went. obviously to the Atlanta Hawks and he. played outstanding at the end of the. year. Yeah, exactly. I think he was kind. of hammered dog shite the first half of. the season. Then he kind of figured out. 13 on the year. Not bad. Not bad. Okay. So he bounced back. Exactly. And uh. number one overall pick before that was. WBY. And the number one overall pick. before that was Oh, I couldn't tell you.

That's that's getting a little too far. in the past. Number one's normally hit. though, right? Isn't that kind of the. thing of the draft? I mean, last year's. draft, I remember there being a. conversation about it being crap. They. said, "This is not a great draft is what. they said." That was rude to those kids. You guys make your own. decision on if you're a crap draft class. or not. Cuz any draft class in any sport. could be the best of all time or could. be the worst of all time, right? Every. draft pick could be the best player of. all time or the worst player of all. time, which is why it's such a fun, exciting time. Feels like basketball.

hits at the top more often than not. Everybody else I think I'm I'm kind of a. little bit lost on last night. Knew a. lot of names late. Knew a lot of names. Like Connor, you had a theory on why. that was the case, why we knew a lot. more names. And I think it was because. it was a lot of college, right? Marie. Madness. I like Walter Clayton Jr. being. available at 18. I was so surprised. I'm. like, this guy's available for the NBA. and he's falling this far. He was he. took over games. I mean, he just. absolutely took over games. I guess. there's a lot more projection on what. you could be in the NBA. And then the.

names being known, it's like a lot of. college guys got drafted last night. Yeah. And a lot of guys make their names. in March. Like I feel like uh even uh. not just Walter Clayton Jr., but there's. a few guys who transferred to bigger. schools and then they become named in. March. Our guy Derek Queen gets drafted. last night down in New Orleans. They. they paid a hefty ransom to move up 10. spots to get him. Yeah. People weren't. happy about that. People were calling. that guy that's running the Pelicans a. big dumb dip. That's what people were. say. We did not say No, no, we did not.

say that. I cannot reiterate that enough. because we like Derek Queen. So, if. Derek Queen goes on to be a perennial. all-star, which he could be, very tall, very athletic, very smooth, and a dog. Remember in the game that they show the. highlight where he wins it in the. huddle, the coach said, "Who wants the. ball?" And he said, "I want the ball.". And then he got, "I'm sorry, I want the. ball." Then he gets the. ball and does that. It's like, "Okay, that is a guy I would like on my team.". Now, you trade up 10 spots and give up a. unprotected firstrounder, I guess, next.

year, especially with what the Pelicans. could be potentially, or they could be. very good nonetheless. But if they end. up being good and Derrick Queen's good, none of this matters. Bingo. Just like. the NFL draft, like somebody makes a. stupid move, you reach to get somebody. If that guy's an all-star, none of it. matters. If that person's not. fired. Yeah. Speaking of that move, Dallas Mavericks all of a sudden, this Nico guy wants to pop wood. Yeah. He said, "Why'd you get rid of Luca? This guy led your team to the finals. last year. Is it all?" We said it. We're.

like, "This guy thinks he's more. important to the Dallas Mavericks than. Luca Donic." What is this guy doing? Is. he trying to piss off the fans so bad. that they have a right to move the team. to another city? That was the theories. everybody. This guy is trying to tank. his team to be bad is what they were. saying about this Nico guy, GM. Now. there's stats coming out that are like. everything that Nico has said he wants. on his team, he has assembled. He is. Cooper Flag also a shot blocker. I mean. 50 blocks in 37 games. Obviously when. you're that tall, that athletic, you're.

able to do it. But now they just got. size and they are going to play defense, which is exactly what he came out. immediately after Trade Nico said, I. feel there is a way to win games. I. think it is through a defensive style of. basketball and I think you have to be in. tremendous shape. And he like kind of. just sat in the pocket on that. Just. very much sat in the pocket on that. He. got murdered. We were a part of the. problem. Yeah. Yeah. Well, kind of. rightfully so though. Still he got very. lucky after the trade. Getting the. number one overall pick for Cooper Flag. I think is obviously a massive ordeal.

But if you look at the vision that he. wants feels like he's setting it up and. now I guess Kyrie won't be back until. January midse January or February break. even. So he's going to miss the first. half of the season. But whenever Kyrie. comes back and if they're already. rolling it's like his vision is perfect. Can they stay healthy is the big. question. And what will Cooper flag be? I think I think with what every human is. saying about him, he's it's going to. work. Yeah. Like he's going to. transition well into the NBA, congrats. to him on a coronation basically of. being the next one. Well, especially in.

the West, too. Like if you think about. those three guys, Gaffford, Lively, and. Anthony Davis, and you can throw Cooper. flag in there, but looking around Chad. Homegrren and OKC and Hartinstein, both. those dudes are 7 foot, big bodies. So, I mean, again, they match up well with. them. You look at the Nuggets, of. course, Joic, big body, got to match up. with them. The Timberwolves, you know, of course, Rudy Gobear, not as good on. offense, but uh the the main one, yeah, Victor Webbyama, like if you're looking. just to win the state of Texas in.

general, first and foremost, of course, you have that kind of manpower now, but. the the thing the this league's getting. big. It's getting huge. It's getting. huge. Now, granted, you still got TJ. McConnell doing his thing. Jaylen. Brunson's still doing his thing. You'll. still see some of that, but the size of. these dudes is outrageous right now with. what they're able to do. So smooth. Yeah. So smooth. All of them. All of. them have a jumper. You It's like, well, they don't work the paint. It's like I. think they could I think they can make. short shots, too. Oh, yeah. Like I I. think they could do that, but they just.

opt for three points instead of two. because they're such prolific shooters. It just it's a wild spot in basketball. as somebody that just, you know, casual. watcher, it's like these 7 foot4. humans. Yeah. First of all, I didn't. know we could do that. Not many of. those. And and then when you see it. running, it's like that's unbelievable. And then it's just shooting better than. I could ever shoot in my life. And it's. like this is what this is this is what. basketball. It's a avatar playing.

basketball. And we just watched I mean. we literally Chad Homegrren is an. avatar. Bingo. We just watched OKC with. Chad and Hartinstein. two huge guys. playing defense and and having huge. guys. Um and then you talked about Jacob. Sullie gets into that thing. He shuts. that thing. Mhm. Go into his brain. Yeah. Soul sucked out, dropped into an. avatar. He's 13 feet tall. Runs, jumps, does the whole thing. That's what the. NBA is becoming. Yeah. They play hoops. in that movie. They do. I'm sorry I cut. you off. I was just I was thinking to.

myself that that is what Chad I mean. Chad was like throwing the ball down. Yeah, at the hoop backwards from like 4. feet away. So tall kind of the blueprint. now. But you're talking about uh number. one overall picks. So from the 2020 on. it was Anthony Edwards, he's pretty. good. Kate Cunningham, that guy's pretty. good. Paulo Bonero, pretty good. Uh the. elite uh Ricochet, obviously, WBY, and. then Cooper Flag here. So there's a. there's a pretty good chance that Cooper. Flag uh is going to probably be the.

rookie of the year uh and be good in the. NBA. Ricochet, we think with the S. It's. like ricochar or something. Yeah, it's. it's it is it is not pronounced how you. think it would be. R I S A C H E R. I. know the e r is an a sound, right? Yeah. What the s is becoming a z. Yeah, I I. mean that's you know again I zakali I. believe. So I just looked it up. It's uh. rez. See knew knew it was in the. ballpark. All. right. I took like eight classes of.

French and I'm like I don't know if an S. turns into a C in that language. They. seemingly are great at basketball. though. Very good. Yeah. French good. basketball. All right. Joining us now. ladies and gentlemen is a man who uh you. know is in the middle of a lot of action. right now. Obviously Qualrix when you're. talking about surveying and accounting. and everything like that. Best in a one. name comes to mind. Qualrix. Boom. Great. business. Mhm. So good it's been sold.

multiple times. It's crazy. For billions. of dollars each time. Yeah. The person. that did that said, "Well, I'm like 40. years old now. Love sports. What should. I do?" Oh, I'm going to buy my hometown. NBA team, the Utah Jazz. Becomes an. owner of the Utah Jazz. Obviously brings. in Danny A from the Boston Celtics. Tries to build up a winner in his city. Then also he says, "You know, I love. this state. What would this state need? What would be great for this state? All.

hockey team. So then he starts. petitioning the NHL. Hey, whenever a. team is either going up for expansion or. for sale, we would like to be a part of. it. I think my state, the one that I'm. from, would be a wonderful host city of. an NHL team. And I think we would show. up for you. You got it. Team goes up for. sale in Phoenix. Bang. All of a sudden, now he owns an NHL team and an NBA team. And he's under the age of 50. Ladies and. gentlemen, a self-made billionaire with. a great team around him. an owner of an. NBA team and an NHL team. A guy who's. living out a lot of a lot of dudes.

dreams in and has remained a human. somehow. I don't know how that works. Ladies and gentlemen, Ryan Smith. What's up, guys? That last question shoe. collection. So, reach. Okay. Weew wee. Messi Boku. Uh. Tua Trey uh extraordinaire uh defeat. covers. I don't know how you say shoes. I just bought those. Yeah. Uh, your shoe. collection is outrageous. You know that. That is beautiful right there. That is.

wonderful. How often do we change those. out? Are they always the same spot? No, it's great. I always change it out. Like. if I just show up and I'm like not. feeling what's what I'm rocking on the. feet, I just look around and there's. something something there. It's But are. they always all in the same spots or do. some people get kicked off the team? Like, hey, I'll tell you what. Third row. up on the left side, 15th shoe in. I. haven't worn these in three years. Take. them off the damn rack. They don't. deserve a spot anymore. We need to put. some new bad boys up here. Is there any.

We need some Crocs up here. What's. actually what's actually happening is I. find that they're disappearing. People will come in and then like walk. out with a pair of kicks and I'm like, "All right, we got to find something. else there." Zita said in the back that. is classic Big Jay there. He's going. right to the top there. Big Jay's going. right to the top. No doubt about it. Okay, thank you for joining us. Um great. night last night for the Utah Jazz. I. assume that's how the entire. organization feels. Danny A obviously. genius over there. You bring in uh so.

many big brains into every business that. you do. It feels like you were okay. delegating power to other people and. trusting the ride. How was the room last. night whenever you end up with Ace. Bailey at five, outrageously talented. player who may have said that he didn't. want to go to Utah? I don't know if that. was just on the internet, but that was. kind of being speculated. And then. Walter Clayton Jr. the guy of March. Madness. had to feel like a great night. for the Utah Jazz. Ryan, is that. accurate? Yeah, it it truly was. I mean, um I think I think we brought in Austin. A couple weeks ago and he came out for.

the press conference from Boston and. didn't leave actually. He has not left. to go back home to to pack up or. anything. He has been heads down. And I. think a couple weeks ago, he said, "If. we can walk out of this draft with Ace. Bailey and Walter Clayton, that's. exactly what we want to do." And um the. team executed on exactly what they. wanted. Okay. So whenever the chatter. about Ace Bailey happens as the owner of. the team, I assume that is something. that you have to take into account uh. especially in the modern era of sports.

What is kind of your thoughts on that. particular narrative about Ace uh at. five to Utah with everything that's been. said leading up to the draft? I mean, look, I think our philosophy and where. we're at as a team is we want to take. the best player on the board and and we. love Ace. Um, I got a chance to talk to. Ace and Walter last night and you know, all I saw was a kid who was humble, he. was grateful, he was excited um to to be.

in the NBA. Um, and I think that's all. you can ask for from from our. standpoint. I mean, naturally probably. doesn't have a lot of experience out. west here with Utah. That's our job to. go make him love it. Um, I just I'm. confident in our state. I know that, you. know, he'll feel loved like he's never. felt before. People are fired up to have. him. And reality is there's nothing that. that Ace and others can't accomplish. here. And so I think we've seen that um. with the NBA Finals this year. You guys. have felt that love. You were along for.

a hell of a ride with with Indie and. OKC. And um he's going to do great. He's. going to do great. And he's got a young. coach who's fired up about him. Um, you. know, he's got a lot of really smart. people around. I mean, with DA who's. been in the league 46 years, um, with a. with a group of veterans on our team. that are also incredibly unselfish and I. think that's really important. So, he. gets a chance to learn, but everyone. wants this guy to succeed and so we're.

couldn't be more excited. Hell yeah. And. as I was watching and reading that. narrative kind of take place on the. internet, I don't think it was just. Utah. I didn't want to I think there was. multiple places, you know, I think it. was like considered a conversation about. Ace leading up. I'm like, there's no way. he's ever been to Utah. Ace, I want to. let you know. And you and I obviously. not same people. Uh I had little to no. expectation of Utah. Just I'm just going. to uh let's keep it a buck. Uh how it. will going out to Utah. I was planning. on uh doing show hotel room show plane.

Get me the hell out of here. Yep. Okay. Get me the hell out of here. You invited. me to a game, which is very kind. Hey, the owner of the Utah Jazz would like. you to come to a Utah Jazz game tonight. I can't can't do that. I I got a big. schedule, big things planned. And then. uh I think Zitto was like, "Hey, you. should look up who the owner of Utah. Jazz is." I looked it up. I saw you and. I was like, "This is not what I expected. out of the Utah Jazz owner at all." I.

looked into your story. I looked into. how you treat people. I looked into. everything and I was like, "Oh, I'd love. to go hang with this guy." And what we. got a chance to do is experience Utah. Walked around downtown, got a chance to. go out. We saw the people. We saw the. building. We experienced everything. about it. It's like this place is. amazing. We we thought about picking up. and moving there. Like that was that was. where we're at, let alone the views and. everything else. And I think obviously. conservative is a word that is thought. about Utah, but I I think people. automatically assume that's boring. It's. like I don't think your city was boring.

at all. Like I think we had a great time. out there, you know. No, a lot of times. in life, I think the picture in our head. can can actually lead us into a really. weird spot and it actually limits all. the opportunity that's in front of us. I. mean, growing up as a kid, I never. thought I would be in enterprise. software. like that picture of the head. just didn't seem what it is. Um, you. know, I'll never forget D. Wade's quote. right when we, you know, obviously were. hoping for, you know, the draft lottery. and everything came out and, you know,

his quote right away is like, hey, there's been a lot of killer players. picked at number five, you know, back at. where he was. And so, I think, look, it's natural for people to be. uncomfortable. I think you went down the. entire draft board and you're like, okay, where's everyone's preferred. destination? It's probably not the right. move for them where they think it is in. their head because everything I've had. in my life that's good, it has never. been the picture I had in my head. It's. actually always kind of uncommon sense. where it comes out and it's like, "Oh,

that don't make sense." And all you want. is the ability to accomplish everything. and not be held back. And that's what. that's what all these guys are going to. get in Utah. Let's not talk about this. And by the. way, and by the way, I mean, like this. this little this little view, I know. he's going to do it. You have to like if. that's not good for your mental to get. locked in to go to go reach up for. something where the air is thin. I I. don't know what else. Like like we're. we're in the picture business here.

Yeah. You postcards postcards, brother. A lot of those. Um yeah, you got the. mountains in a mountain uh resort view. on one side, then you got 2,000 pairs of. Jay's on the other side. Utah, baby lake. over there. We got a basketball. operation. A great lake. Yeah, it is a. great It's not a great lake. Great lakes. are on our side of the country. Yeah, exactly. Okay, let's Yeah, please. Homes, brother, homes. Thank you. No. problem. That's Michigan right there. That's right. I'll shout out to Erie, too. You know, one fishing up there in.

Lake Area. Superior is a big son. Big. That's a big That's a great lake. right there. Ontario and Hiron though, they hold up their end of the bargain. because you can't spell homes right. there. So that's why we got the Great. Lakes on our side. You understand it, Ryan. You got good lakes over there. You. got good lakes. You got good. All right, let's move on. Let's move on. I think Ace is going to love Utah is all. I'm saying. And I think you're like, uh, if I was going to be a professional. athlete, you would be the owner that I. would or style of owner that I would. want to play. You are fully invested. On.

that note, Ty has a question for you. Yeah, Ryan, how difficult is it having. to kind of split your time with. obviously when you have the draft, you. have all that prep and then you're also. looking at different acquisitions and. different players to bring in. And on. the flip side of it, you also have to. address everything going on with the. mammoth. Like I know you've said to us, you're not really that uh the hands-on. guy who's going to be involved in every. every decision and want your fingerprint. all over it, but how difficult is it. really kind of uh properly dividing your. time between both of your teams when.

you're trying to make both teams better. before next season? Yeah, it's like a. it's like a twoame parlay. You're trying. to you're trying to hit it all every. night. Like it's it's hard. I think I. think just like your guys's world, you. got to you got to pick your spots and. you got to try to figure out how it all. works. There's no real playbook. I think. people ask you like, "Hey, how are you. going to be?" So, you know, last night. was an interesting one. I'm in that. draft room right there, right? Like, what what is my role there? And my role.

in my mind is is very simple. I'm there. to support them. Like I've never seen a. business that has so much revisionist. history. Um because every organization. last night with 30 picks all were. clapping for the guy that they got. We. got our guy. And then 5 years from now, everyone's going to look back and be. like, I can't believe we didn't get the. guy one up or one below or we got luck. We we were lucky. And my role here is to.

let Austin know and DA and coach, we're. riding and dying together. I'm in it. with you. There's going to be no. revisionist history. We're making that. decision. We're going to be in it. together. I'm going to look back. I was. in the room and I'm here to support you. We're going to win some. We're going to. lose some. We're going to be aggressive. I'd rather have you swinging. You know, we've never had a championship in Utah. We're not going to tiptoe into that. Um. we're going to miss some. That's fine. But I want you to know that that I'm. here in that hard moment to validate.

I'm not in there telling them how to do. their job. Although last night it was. interesting because I'm sitting at that. table, we're in the middle of my phone. rings and everyone's phone's ringing on. the clock and everything and they're. like, "Who why are you taking a call?". And it was, you know, it was it was. Terry Pagula from the Sabres going, "Hey, there's a hockey deal going on. right now. Are are you involved in this? Is this for real? What's going on?". That's him. And and and. I was like, "Yeah, I think this is.

going." Everyone's kind of looking at me. going like, "Why aren't you on the. call?" It's like, "Hey, like don't worry. about it." But like, you just kind of. blend it all together and then my. family's sitting back there and our. friends are there. Like, like there's no. real separation. It's just pulling it all into one. organization. I think that's one of the. benefits we have in Utah where we we do. have the same ownership structure in. both organizations. It is the same arena. and and it's easy to kind of put on one.

broader hat and hire really smart people. that my job is to support and get out of. their way, but also let them let them do. the job. Let them feel comfortable. Let. them take the risk and know that it's a. safe place and, you know, we're not. expecting perfection. Knowing that your. owner is invested financially and also. wanting to win is a huge deal for the. fan base. I assume the Jazz and the. Mammoth have fans have told you that. But also hiring smart people and letting. them do their job and execute their.

vision is also something all fans want. their owners to do. Now, let's talk. about the people that you've hired. Bill. Armstrong over there for the Mammoth, right? Ain't that accurate? Yeah. He's the GM that did the deal. whenever Pagoula called you and said, "Hey, are you in on this?" I got Bill. Armstrong. What do you tell you talked. to Bill Armstrong there? People around. the hockey world say, "Great trade you. for the Utah Mammoth." Now granted, I. think you signed him to a deal. immediately and some people were. questioning the contract details, whatever that is, but getting JJ to your. team, I think everybody in the hockey.

world was like, "Good move. How do you. feel about the move?" And uh what should. we view? How should we view the mammoth. over the next few years? Yeah. So, I mean, first of all, this is. bittersweet because Castle Ring and Don. are amazing humans and and you know, they're both they're both young and you. know, it's obviously what what Buffalo. wanted. Um, I think we we I mean, I. think to take a next step for us, it you. know, we need a little bit more scoring. on that front line. We got a left. winger. Um, and now we have four guys on.

our team under the age of 26 that are. 60point guys. Um and and hopefully it. gets better. You know, three of them are. under 23. I think that's really. encouraging if I look out for for the. Mammoth. Um but once again, you know, you know, Cass and and Donor were huge. in our first season. Um they handled the. transition, the move, they rallied. there. You know, there's a lot of. leaders on these teams and so it's a.

little bittersweet, but um you know, it's a move we got to make. and and you. know when it was brought to me w with. the recommendation it was it was. something that that we were pretty. excited about just because of the. potential and the upside of of feeling. that that was one of our big offseason. desires and to have it come I don't. think we we saw it coming this way but. um I think it's good news for for for. Mammoth fans and you know I've looked. into it a little bit there's good years. ahead I've looked into it a little bit. they talked about the money that JJ is.

getting now and I thought about you as. an owner, you know, and I don't remember. if we've ever chatted about it, but the. NBA money and the NHL money is crazy. Sydney Crosby just signed for $8.7. million a year. Pay $8.7 million. That's. like uh 3 weeks pay for some of the NBA. guys, you know, and I'm not saying that. it isn't warranted. Like you get. whatever you need. You get whatever. money you can get. But for you, has that. been an interesting experience in the. NHL? like, hey, I am used to spending. money on the most valuable assets of the.

entire franchise, which is the players. Has that been interesting for you with. Bill Armstrong? I mean, it's all within. a cap system. Um, and I think, you know, we've got, you know, we brought Bill in. We hired Chris Armstrong. So, we have. two two Armstrongs that are in there. Two Angels. Two Armstrongs. Y two. Armstrongs. Two Angels. They're not. related, though. But like Chris is. someone that I've worked for with for a. long time. And you know, I would say his. job as president, one of his jobs is to. get me really comfortable and then work. with Bill together and to say, "Hey, you.

know, how's this going to play out?" I. mean, we we still don't even have a full. arena yet from a seating standpoint and. we're under massive renovation right. there. There's a video out there. I. mean, we're trying to do something that. really hasn't been done from um a. basketball hockey arena to make it super. intimate like we have in hoops, which. you guys have seen, but also have it be. able to almost expand like an accordion. for for hockey in most arenas. When's. that how that's going to take two years. to build what you're doing? Yeah, it's.

going to be it's going to be two years. But there's there's new technology with. seating where it's almost like you can. press a button and it's like, hey, go to. two, come back to one. as opposed to. most arenas start off wide and then they. come in for kind of that moment. We want. to stay in the the best most intimate. basketball arena in the NBA, but be able. to press a button and kind of go out to. to maintain that same intimacy for. hockey. And so, we've been working on. this that'll be full. Um, but we're.

we're trying to be aggressive, but also. plan for the future. We're very very. close. We were close to getting to the. playoffs this year. Um, and and. honestly, it was it was pretty storybook. to Yeah. I mean, the second the season. end, we put a crane on that floor and. it's not coming out till till the second. we start. I mean, it's it's pretty. massive what we're doing here. Yeah. Yeah. It feels like it's a mammoth. It's. a mammoth under. [Applause].

Did you walk in there with your hard hat. on? Did you do the whole hard hat photo. shoot? Oh, you're not going in there. You're not going in there without. without hard hat and uh Yeah, but did. you do the did you do the photo shoot. with the scissors on the thing to break. ground or the shovel to break ground? Did you do that whole thing? I'm going. to be honest. By the time the season was. over, that thing was gated and and we. just move fast in Utah. No, you got to. just you got to do the shovel thing. You. we just went No, we'll do a shovel when. we kick it off and you guys are there. hosting opening night when that thing's.

done. But, you know, look, I think I I I. had uh an interview a reporter question. from Canadian television ask me once how. I thought about the cap going up in. hockey. Yes. And like, oh, it was going. up 10% or what was going to happen. And. I was like, as opposed to what? I mean, we're kind of used to that in the NBA. where where it kind of increases at a. level, which is a big jump. But look, I. mean, what the NHL is doing and where. it's going, um, you guys are seeing. that. You guys covered it. You were. early to the beat there. Um, it's on a.

heater. It's absolutely on a heater. And. I I don't see this thing slowing down. because the world very very easily. relates to the teamwork and what they're. seeing on the ice and the way they go. and, you know, even the celebrations. like we're watching and and it's it's. it's a pretty cool thing to be a part of. and to be able to bring that to Utah. Um, you know, it's probably one of the. the coolest things I've ever been a part. of. Yeah. I'm happy you're getting part. of the hockey world, you know, like I I.

think you wanted to bring a hockey team. to Utah cuz you knew Utah would love a. hockey team. Like I think that's what. you did. Then I think as you started. learning about hockey more and more, you. know, it started feeling like you. started becoming like, "Oh, this is a. sport that I'm very very much uh love. and in have a lot in common with because. how about them just fighting? How about. it?" Like it's so old school in there. like, "Hey, you you want to disrespect. my friend? Sweet. I will see you center. ice in about two periods. So, we will.

handle this entire thing. And then the. speed and the the t it's it's a. fantastic sport. You're and then they're. taking one night off and playing again. You're like, wait a minute. Shouldn't. they just play next Sunday? No, no, no. We got 84 games coming allegedly. Now, on that note, Connor has a question for. you. Yeah, Ryan. New proposed CBA for. the NHL. Patrick mentioned it. 84 game. season. Uh, the max sixyear deals for. free agents. No dress codes. No dress. codes, which is ridiculous. Let the boys.

put sandals on, Ryan. Yeah, please. The. long-term IR, which has been a very uh. uh kind of priority for some of these. teams to win is to use that long-term. IR. I know people in Florida were upset. because Eblad goes on the 20ame. suspension. They get new players. It. happened with the Golden Knights. It's. happened with the Tampa Bay Lightning, with Cooerov. It's happened forever and. that's another thing they're thinking. about changing. What is kind of the main. things of this new proposed CBA? Is it.

locked in for 84 games here? And what do. you think? How's it going to change the. game? Yeah. And like I don't know how it's all. going to uh uh kind of shake out, but I. you know, right when I came in, I I had. like three or four different owners and. managers of the NHL call and be like, "Dude, we got to keep the suits. The dress. code's got to stay the way it is.". Really? I know you're I know you're a. big hoodie guy, but like don't don't. like we got one thing. And I've actually. grown to love the suits. Like I love the. look. I love the culture. You know it's.

game time. You know when it's coming. Um. there's something about it, right? And. and so we we'll see how it all I I'm. sure it's a lot of work for the guys, but um we'll see how all this shakes. out. I mean 84 games. Um it's. incredible. It's incredible what they. do, how physical it is, you know, diving. in front of pucks, doing that. I mean, it's it's, you know, these are real. athletes. Yeah. And and and they they go. hard and they go a lot and um I think,

you know, we're we're going to see um. you know, I think they're in the middle. of it where, you know, it's kind of a a. template and and we'll see where it all. shakes out. I mean, comment too much. Got it. Okay. Because whenever I read. this on the thing on the bottom of the. photo it said major potential changes in. next NHL NHL PABA but then in the tweet. it says could be announced tomorrow per. Frank Saravei. So then so it's kind of. conflicting like if this is potential.

but then it could be announced tomorrow. that sounds like there's an agreed terms. then if yeah we haven't voted on. anything yet. Okay. All right. That's. good piece of information. All right. So. we haven't voted on anything. We're. getting close. We'll see how it all. shakes out. Whatever the case, hockey is. going to remain awesome. And we. appreciate how great of an owner you. have been uh for the Utah Jazz and a. Mammoth thus far and how cool you've. been to us. We appreciate the hell out. of you. No, you guys are awesome. Congrats on all the success, fellas. And. uh congrats on the run in Indie, man. It. was fun watching. It was How about.

Simon? He was the man. I wanted one for. Herby a little bit. I'm not going to. lie. Like I ran into him backstage uh or. back court, I guess you would call it. in the bottom tunnel in the tunnel of. the arena after we won the Eastern. Conference finals I think and he was. just walking smiling they were on his. way somewhere and uh just in a suit coat. you know sport coat walking happy has. like glasses they might be sunglass. glasses or whatever tinted glasses a.

little bit he's walking through and I go. Mr. Simon, my name's uh Pat McAfee. Congratulations. Or whatever. He goes, "Pat, thank you." And I said, "Uh, congratulations, man." I was like, "Can. I get a selfie with you?" He goes, "Absolutely." And then he turns, me and. my wife take a selfie with him, and he. goes, "All right, I'm going to go. celebrate." And he turns around while I. walks away. I'm like, "This this guy, he's awesome. He's He's older. That's. That's my guy. That's my guy. Like every. all-star I I just like I sit next to. Herb and I was like, "You are a G. you. are like he's 90 years old and like he.

just wants to hang and I'm I'm I want as. much time with that guy as I can get. What a what an amazing human. Super. vibes out of that guy. I mean like super. vibes. Not just like kind of He's 90. It. was like this guy is amazing. All right, we appreciate you, Ryan. Good luck with. everything. Hey, we'll see you. Hey, toss up. Can you go over here? Foxy, can. you go over here? Toss up. Toss up, man. Ryan Smith, ladies and gentlemen, I don't why won't he do it? I don't. know. I think maybe he doesn't want to.

cuz he's a big Let's see what the people. say, guy. Yeah, I remember Qualric. Survey. People have spoken. Uh yeah, I. think I think there has been a. contingency of people that have spoke, but I think he doesn't want to force. anything either. He he's very much like. a We'll see how it we'll see how it all. shakes up, you know. We'll see how it. all I let the guys do their jobs, too. I. like you said that. I'm in the room. certainly. I am there. Hey, listen. I'm. here to support you and five years from. now, uh, I won't be judging your. decision because I was there whenever we. were all in there. We actually just had. one of these conversations uh, in the.

think tank over there about a decision. that was made by me like years ago uh, that we look back on and go so stupid. That was a bad decision. It was like, but in the moment in the moment it was. uh, felt like a good one and that's. life. You're going to keep going. That's. an American dream story, Ryan. Yeah. Incredible. Believe he dropped out of. high school something like that. He's. like an outlaw more because they started. in his basement. He was he was like an. outlaw Mormon. Outlaw Mormon. He was and. then he just surveys and then he started. pounding pavement with these surveys and. then he like showcased the companies. that like you can do like the original.

surveys and I think it's hard in the. digital age because we all hate surveys. We all know of surveys, but when surveys. like first became like a thing, people. would be walking off an airplane and. they'd be like, "Hey, would you take. five minutes to do this and we'll give. you five minute gift card or $5 gift. card or something like that for the. future?" Sure, no problem. And then you. get like a thousand of those filled out. And then I think you show the company. like, "Hey, this is what your customers. are literally saying." And they he like. changed businesses like the Qualrix. people. And then he sold that thing. twice. Billions one time. Yeah. Still.

owner. Get a little bit more back. Sell. it again. Still own it. Buy the Utah. Jazz. Still own it. Buy the Utah. Mammoth. Mhm. Utah Hockey Club. It's. like he's 48 or something. Crazy beast. 48 years old. was not born a. billionaire. Like this is not like. family money. This is he created the. money alongside a lot of great people. I'm not saying that he didn't have a. great team, but it's like he's doing. everything that like you know a lot of. little boys dream of. Like uh he grew up.

hooping in Utah in Salt Lake City. Love. the Utah Jazz. Owns the Utah Jazz. Yeah. Like I love the state of Utah. Got to. get a hockey team here. Like it is hope. they win. That's a hell of a story over. there. What's that? I said I hope they. win. Yeah, me too. Utah Jazz not good. this year. No, they haven't been good. for a little while now. Yeah, I think. the Mammoth, you know, I mean, what. we've seen in the NHL, like with these. newer team, and granted they're not an. expansion team, but like they're. obviously, you know, they they they. could be good next year, you said it, they almost made the playoffs this last. year. Expansion team, uh, better option.

in the NHL. Nick, correct me if I'm. wrong, expansion team, because you can. get like vets from other teams. Whenever. you buy a team like the Phoenix Coyotes, uh, who move up to Utah to become the. Utah Hockey Club, now the Utah Mammoth, you pick up their entire building. basically, right? and that kind of how. it is. So, you already have the roster. set as opposed to being able to build. your own roster with a plethora of. veterans that are on big contracts that. you can potentially sign, right, Nick? Certainly a lot more flexibility with. the expansion options. But, uh, Ryan got. a great opportunity here because of that.

tweet we just had up on the screen there. where the youth uh, a couple of those. guys. was a draft pick. Uh, Gunther and Keller were already on the. team. Now, they trade and add Purka. Like, they've got a really good. situation going in Utah. Young young. team. Gunther. Yeah, Gunther is a dog as. we get him. Who's the Pittsburgh boy? There's a Pittsburgh boy on this team. Logan That baby. out there work, Logan. Go on, Go. on, All right, let's uh turn our. attention back to the NBA. Uh, obviously.

the NBA draft was last night and there. was a little bit of a different. experience during this NBA draft than. there had been in the past. My friend. Shoms wasn't tipping every single pick, was he? What was that? Let's ask him. about ladies and gentlemen. Sean Shan. Seams, how you doing, buddy? I'm doing. great. I'm doing great. My head is kind. of spinning. We got second round of the. NBA draft tonight. Getting I'm actually. even getting ready for free agency. coming up in a few days. So, we have a. few different things on the docket right. now. We're we're wrapping our minds. around. Are we about to do the whole uh.

Sham screen time post? Is that coming. soon? Is the Sham screen time post. coming? That's likely. I feel like. that's likely. I think I think the. people want to see the June 30th and. July 1 screen times, but if they don't. want to see it, we won't. We We usually. give the people what they want to see. I. think All right. All right. Let's talk. about what the people didn't see last. night. Uh it was noticeable. I I live on. X. Uh you were trending while not uh. being active on X uh because you weren't.

tipping picks. A lot of great tweets. about Sham's not tipping pics last. night. just the way the internet has the. ability. More specifically, uh NBA. Twitter. Okay, I guess that's sure. that's not the name. Uh and that is the. best Twitter. Let's not even get into. it, but that's neither here nor there. They had a field day with the Shams not. tipping picks. Then all of a sudden, pick 11, we're getting tipped picks now. with trades. Now we're getting with. trades. What was your experience last. night? Because with all of us who are. friends of yours and followers of yours,

it was a little bit different and people. noticed. It was hard. It was It was hard, you. know, knowing the picks and you know, five minutes in advance or uh know. knowing the knowing what's happening in. different places. Well, before it was. hard. It was definitely unlike, you. know, past years for me. There's no. doubt about it. There were times I was. like, you know, I just, you know, let me. fire one of these off. Let me fire one. Yeah. But, you know, I I think this year. I took the approach of being a good. teammate and being a good partner for.

for the people that I'm around, the. people that I I work with on a daily. basis. Um, you know, by not by by. approaching it and not uh tipping the. picks. But, um, you know, trades though. are different, Pat. You know, trades, they get processed. It's just it's it's. a totally different uh, you know, uh, element of the draft. And so to me, keeping our broadcast as up to date as. possible on which pick is going where, you know, that and and if and if a trade.

is processed, it is my job to report. that. So, absolutely. Uh to me, uh you. know, I think I handled it, you know, the best I I could, you know. I thought. you did very well, by the way. I thought. you did very well. And you talked about. being a good partner and a good teammate. and everything like that. We run the. draft spectacular and we for a very long. time as soon as somebody on the internet. uh reported what the pick was, we would. just be like, "Yep, here's the pick.". Because we're we're on the internet, you. know, like that is this is what how. business is being done on the internet.

Then, you know, once we start our show. being licensed through ESPN and then the. NFL gives us a spot at the draft and. it's like the ESPN production people are. building the set, the NFL gave us the. location. It's like and the NFL. in the past has been like, "Hey, could. you please, you know, we kind of want. that to be a big deal, you know, whenever you and all the other insiders. that uh have probably been giving the. same speech are like, "Hey, don't please. don't tip the picks." They all talk. on everybody tipping picks. So, I can. understand the pressure uh that you had.

on you yesterday and the decision-m cuz. I literally had to we literally had to. make that decision. Like, that is. something we had to do cuz it's like we. did NFL picks on the show years ago. Yeah. Years ago, you were cracking. Yeah. Yeah. 2020 I was uh I was getting. in the mix there co year. I remember. that. It's tough though cuz you do want. to be a good teammate. Like you you do. want to be for us like we would like to. be a good teammate for the NFL. Like we. respect the NFL. So whenever the NFL was. like hey is there any way you know cuz a. every other broadcast partner we have is.

getting pissed at us that you know that. you're doing that guys are eight picks. ahead that you can that they can't we. don't let them do it. but also like. don't you think that this is a bigger. moment if it just happens and I'm like. yes if it yeah I do I do think that is. the case. So that was like an easy give. I think you did the right thing and then. whenever you're reporting the trades we. did we did get a little we got some tips. you know we got some tipped picks. So I. think you did great last nights. Now. with that being said what were some of. the big storylines of last night? Obviously Ace Bailey goes five to Utah.

We just talked to Ryan Smith. Is that. the biggest takeaway from last night or. what is it in your eyes from what. everybody is talking about? There are a. few let for sure we can start with Utah. Ace Bailey going at five. You know. what's crazy? A few days before the. draft I actually heard Ace Bailey that. that was the spot he was destined to go. and then you know but classic like in. the NFL I'm sure it's the same way. Smoke screens you hear this. It's like. every single day it's a new rumor. You. hear oh no he's actually to Washington. He's actually going to go to New. Orleans. I heard everything in the book,

but uh I did trust the person I heard. that from, but you know, I went into the. draft eyes wide open. We'll see what. happens. I think I picked four and five, there were a lot of conversations about. moving back, moving up, things of that. sort. None of that happened. And once. Ace Bailey got to five, I wasn't really. that surprised. Ace Bailey had a very, I. think, an unorthodox process, but it's. not a totally different process. It's. not the first time a player and his. representatives chose to handle it and. and really shield him and and keep it.

private and kind of throw different, you. know, smoke screens in their own way out. there to to shield his process. Um, and. whether he got to where he wanted to or. not, what I was told going into draft. night was that he was very comfortable. with his process. He was very. comfortable with the fact that no matter. what he does, whether he works out with. teams or doesn't work out with teams, whether he's a good Samaritan or isn't a. good Samaritan in the in the team. pre-draft form, uh he's going to go. somewhere between three and eight. And.

that's exactly what happened. He ends up. going five to the Utah Jazz. They're. thrilled. And I think them getting. Walter Clayton Jr., I'm sure Ryan Smith. and in that organization is through the. roof because you had those two guys, competitors, shot makers, shot creators. Um, those are two good gets. Atlanta is. another team I think a big winner not. only of the draft but this week getting. Christophs Porzingis earlier in the. week. Uh, if if he's healthy and he's. good to go, that is a massive get. He. became really an indispensable part of. the Celtics and their championship team.

u in 2024. And that's a big get for them. if he's healthy. And then yeah, that's a. great tweet by Bobby Mark. Shout out. Bobby Marks, my teammate. Um, and then. last night they move back 10 draft slots. and they end up with an unprotected. first round pick of the best favorable. out of Milwaukee or New Orleans. Given. the uncertainty around both of those. teams and I don't know where either team. is going to finish, one of those picks. might end up being a high pick. And if. it is, Atlanta essentially move back 10.

slots and then gets another lottery pick. next year potentially. So that was some. shrewd uh movement by their new general. manager, Anie. uh Salah, but um I think. Atlanta overall has to be looking at. themselves pretty good right now and. they've got a $25.3 million trade player. exception. I do anticipate them using. that. Either they're going to take in. contracts with draft picks and assets or. they could get a game-changing player at. that salary slot. Okay, so let's talk. about Joe Dumars, who's the general.

manager of the Pelicans doing that. trade. Uh I believe Bill Simmons said it. was the worst trade he's ever seen in. professional sports. I think something. along those lines. I yeah in the last. going that far, huh? Last decade. Last. decade. Okay. In the last decade is what. Bill Simmons said. He's followed. basketball. Obviously, he's a basketball. guy. I I don't know the business of the. NBA as well. I know they don't care. about picks, but they do care about. picks. So much so that they'll move up. 10 spots to draft somebody. Uh Derek. Queen, dog, player, absolute dog, by the.

way. Great player. If he ends up, how. can you judge that? What if he ends up. being a Hall of Famer? What if he ends. up being a perennial allstar? Then no. one is going to be talking about this in. 3 years. So clearly Joe Dumar, Troy. Weaver, that organization, they felt. very confident in the player that Derek. Queen is. Only time will tell exactly. how that is. Now from but again from the. Atlanta perspective, they clearly were. fine moving back 10 slots and then they. get an extra asset. So for them, that is. looked at as a net positive. For the.

Pelicans, it's all about how Derrick. Queen ends up, how he develops, what is. he like in his NBA career. And to me, it's too early to judge whether they won. or lost. If next year's pick ends up. being a lottery pick, but Derrick Queen. ends up being a perennial perennial. all-star caliber player. Like, are we. really having a conversation? I don't. know. 10 picks in the middle of the. first round were worthy of an. unprotected first round pick next year. I don't know what the right play is and. what history says in the NBA, but I do. know they'll trade the 2041 number one. overall uh in in like that. They'll do.

that for like the ninth man off the. bench. So, the NBA is certainly an. interesting place. Go ahead, Todd. Well, I was just going to say like that's that. would be the devil's advocate, right? It's like why would you trade this. unprotected pick that could potentially. be a lottery pick when you could just be. like, "Hey, we'll give you 2035 and 2036. first round picks and then a couple. second round picks." Well, that's cuz. new GM down there at the Hawks said, "I. don't play those games." Yeah. Okay. I I. need that thing right now. Unled. Yeah, sure. Okay. I need Go ahead, uh Connor. Yeah. Uh Sean, you mentioned the next uh.

steps, the free agency starting pretty. soon here after uh the draft, and you. mentioned Kaminga being a guy that the. Miami Heat are looking at. Are there any. other big names? Nas Reed, I know, is a. guy that most teams want, I'm pretty. sure. What is kind of the next thing. after the draft, or is it the Giannis. trade? Is that happening? Well, I I. think the Giannis uh situation, we'll. see. He a lot of observing this week, draft week, free agency week. What can. the Bucks do to get better? So, that's a. little bit in the in the in the.

distance. But, as far as what we have in. front of us, there's only one team with. significant cases. That's the Brooklyn. Nets. And what they're looks like what. that, you know, that organization led by. Shawn Mars, their general manager, what. they're doing is retooling younger. They. used five draft picks last night. That. gives you a window into what they're. trying to accomplish. They're continuing. to build on a young timeline there. So, they have a ton of cap space. They got. Terrence man. They got a first round. pick. I think continue to take on. salaries, getting assets. That'll be a. focal point of what they're working on.

there. But the fact that they're the. only team with cap space, that means. there's a whole lot of free agents right. now. James Harden, Nas Reed, Julius, um LeBron James has a player option. He. has a deadline of that. um if I believe. on Sunday there's a bunch of player. option decisions on Sunday. So I I I. think you know what what we're going to. see is a lot of free agents are either. going to resign with their teams, work. on signing trades because there's. there's only one team with significant. cap space. So I definitely, you know,

I'm tracking, you know, let's see what. what happens with LeBron James player. option. I said on our show in Indie, actually our first show we did uh at at. outside Gamebridge, it's likely, still. is likely LeBron James opting into his. player option just under $53 million. Um. but he has until Sunday to make that. decision. Um and then there'll be a host. of other players making similar. decisions on Sunday. Well, good luck to. LeBron deciding whether or not he wants. 53 million. Uh. yeah, you've heard anybody just kid.

Pretty good place to be. There's a lot. of players that have that option this. weekend. I'll be excited to see uh who. goes where. Let's talk about the Phoenix. Suns. They acquire uh two centers in a. matter of 10 minutes or something along. those lines. Yeah, it was this might. have been the other shock of the draft. So, come on uh Malawatch. Come on, Match. Come on, Malawatch. I think I I'm not. going to lie. I think I botched it a. couple times. Sorry. Come on, Malawatch. I get it. Come on. Come on. It's Come on, Match. seems like a great.

great kid. All I hear around the league. is he's got a high character. So, shout. out Kam Malawatch. Um uh so when when he. you know a lot of people thought he was. going to go between seven and nine and. once he fell to 10, I think the Suns. were looking at it like we never. expected this kid to fall to us at 10. Uh and at the same time kind of working. on this Mark Williams trade. And so both. things kind of developed really quick. within minutes of each other. And you. you think about the Suns last year they.

had massive front court issues. Yousef. Nerkach, Nick Richards at center. Um you. know he played a much bigger role. He he. actually was their most uh you know uh I. think consistent presence at center, but. uh they had Mason Plumbley there. So. that was clearly a position of need. So. to be able to get two guys with high. upside, who knows? Maybe one of these. guys develops a three-point shot or. develops some kind of outside game that. maybe allows you to play them both. together. But um they clearly addressed.

their need and and come on Malawash, no. one expected him to drop at 10. There. was actually conversations. I thought. the Suns were going to move the 10th. overall pick and potentially move back. They were in conversations with a couple. teams to potentially move back, but they. end up drafting at 10. And now they go. from like having massive issues at the. center position to having two guys with. really high upside. Okay, we got about a. minute before uh a hard out, actual. minute. Any expectations for tonight? So, the first pick of the second round.

tonight, number 31, Minnesota. Timberwolves. I'm told that pick is. actually currently in the process of. being auctioned off to the highest. bidder. So, uh there's multiple offers. coming in for the Timberwolves. Uh. multiple future assets potentially. Um. and so they're going to continue to have. those conversations. The draft is. several hours away tonight. Um so just. leading off the draft tonight that that. first pick tonight uh likely seems to be. there's serious traction on potentially. trade there. Currently on the market we. can't wait to watch the second round. You doing a coverage again? I'll be on.

there. I'll be on there. So yes you mean. ladies and gentlemen senior NBA insider. at ESPN senior Sham Shirana. What an answer. Yeah, pretty good. I. mean, the internet was hot last night. Or Sean's we all his tweets were just. just take the night off this guy. Yeah. What are we doing? This is his night. How about him saying it was hard? Yeah. Oh, there he is. Oh, and he's in the.

background. See you. Sean's tonight will. be his night. Oh, yeah. First picks up. for grabs. Next hour on the other side. Be a friend, tell a friend something. nice. We'll see you then. [Music]. That's stupid. It's crazy. that also take us off the table. We do. not deserve this. They all commit and.

love what's going on in that weight. room. They all commit and love what Jim. Harbaugh is preaching. And everybody in. the building's happy. Everybody's like. excited to be there. First room, max. pressure, first row. Second row is up. here. It is infectious what they got. going on. And how many owners are. spending 300 million on a new facility. just for practice facility. Wow. Oh my gosh. [Music].

But then for them to do it upright for. the last couple it's like look out for. the Chargers, dude. Look out for the. Chargers. Hey, I got a gift for you. Where you at? Okay. So, miss your birthday and this. Christmas. Oh, look at that. Your. perspective on high fives is one of the. greatest things you've ever seen in a. long time. I love the high five. Yeah. Give each other a high five.

Boom. Oh my god. Wow. Boom. So we wanted to make basically something. that you could call my dad made. Oh wow. That feeling. I think you can get a pretty good pause. Yeah.

That is incredible. Obviously national. champion Michigan man. Greatest high. five. Yeah. Because of what you brought. before the high five parade. [Music]. He tried to give a handshake to that. particular high five trophy. Did break. the hand off. We had to put it back on. Yeah. Way to go. Handshake. Oh no. Oh. no. There we go.

We have so much respect for you. You. guys just roll teeth. This is this would. be entourage level. We're not to be. honest. We didn't know we were going to. be able to get 11 people in here and. then we have 11. I mean, wow. It looks like a lot of. highlights against one particular team. They played more than one game, right?

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Damn it. Friend, tell a friend something. nice could change their life. [Applause]. [Music]. Hello, beautiful people and welcome back. to our humble abode. The Thunderdome in. the middle of torrential downpour here. in Indianapolis, Indiana. Great story. about that. Hour two begins right now. scores are happening and obviously the. NBA's second round of its annual draft. will take place this evening. Last.

night's first round of the NBA had. storylines in abundance. Jay Bilis will. be joining us who was on the NBA draft. coverage in about 8 minutes or so to. chitchat about all things uh NBA draft. uh and also three Duke dudes in the top. 10 of the NBA draft. Congratulations to. Duke. He'll obviously celebrate that. cannot wait to chat about what we should. be looking forward to this evening and. how are his thoughts on everything. I. haven't talked to Jay Bilis in a long. time. Yeah, it's been a long time. Probably about a year this time. Yes. Beautiful day here in Indianapolis until.

the show started. Then uh thunderstorms, I guess, just dropped into our. atmosphere out of nowhere. Foxy's got a. super cool Bronco. Sweet. Broncos so. cool. It was one of the first Broncos. whenever they relisted Broncos for sale. Foxy bought one of the first ones. We're. talking the prototype of the new Bronco. coming out. And that thing obviously has. the ability to take top off. Sure. It's. a Bronco. Get some sun. Take the rag top down so your hair can. blow. Mhm. Bronco. You know, that's. basically what Foxy does. Bingo. So,

anytime Foxy gets the opportunity to let. that beard breathe, put some sunglasses. on, let that hair in that Bronco, right. hand on the steering wheel, left hand. out the window, anytime he has a chance. to do that, he's doing it. It's. summertime, baby. Not in Northern. Michigan, but in Indiana. Loves it. Bingo. So this morning he pulls in here. top back. Feels so good about the day. The walk. Well, we're going to have a. nice little Thursday here, aren't we? Walks in, does his It's Thursday. Okay. Thought it might have been Wednesday.

still. No. Every day is basically the. same. Yeah. Foxy walks in here, says. we're going to have a nice Thursday. We. do the show. All of a sudden, about. halfway through that first hour, we hear. outside. I didn't know there were. thunderstorms. I don't think anybody. knew there were thunderstorms. No. Especially the guy that drove in here. with the open top on his Bronco. So what. did the boys do? Debbone and talk one. out there. Debbone laid on top of the. Bronco. Yeah, he laid on top of the. Bronco. Kind of planked almost right. hand on the front right where the.

passenger shotgun would be. Corner of. the windshield. Left hand where the. driver windshield is. Right foot on. passenger back passenger corner. Left. foot on driver behind pass. You get it? He held himself up like that. Planked. like that blocking the ring. and then talk went in there. Put the top. on. Bang. They came back in here. As we went to. break, there was two soaked dogs. Yeah.

That walked in. Soaked. It's raining out. there. Talk says as he's actually. dripping. And then Bone comes in. It's coming. 54. Yeah. And then they explained that they. explained to us that Foxy didn't put his. top back up whenever he parked here. And. I asked Foxy, "Did you tell them to do. that cuz you knew that?" Or did they. notice it and go do that? They noticed. that one did that. That's good team. culture. Good work, boys. That's awesome. They. sacrificed themselves out there. They.

did. Bone hasn't done a plank like that. ever. And in crunch time, he had to do. We know him. Left tackle guard crunch. time. Uker What? Trump, you know, whole. thing. Yep. He's in there. Come on, Todd. I can't do it much longer. That's. amazing. Unbelievable. Thank you, boys. Hero move by them. It really was. Yeah. And I checked the weather this morning. It said perfectly sunny all day today. But you're going to get got sometimes. and that's going to happen. That's. Indiana, baby. If you don't like the. weather, just wait 5 minutes.

Toxic tables here at Boss Connor at Tai. Schmidt. I think it says a lot about our. building. Yeah, without a doubt. Without. a doubt. You kidding me? I mean, bone. too. Yeah, he doesn't have to work out. for another year now. Well, I guess but. I mean we've never seen bones sell out. like that. Would you guys have done it? You two? No, I would I would talk. Gertie. Hurry up. Get out there. Where's. Mitt? Where's Mitt? Yeah, I don't know. One after the Cowboys AP to me and Tone.

would have won out there. Sure. Just. would like to let everybody know that. Tone would not have done it. I would. have went out there for you. for that Bronco. Hold on. Hold on. for. that Bronco. That's a nice Bronco. Honestly, if 90% of the cars out there. had their sunroof open, I would argue. yes. For the Bronco, what you could. argue is damn near made to get wet. Okay. May maybe that's what Foxy's. Bronco needed was a little water inside. that roof. I don't know if any of us are.

going out there. Okay, we might not be. uh the right we not be might not be. telling the right story. Oh no, come on. I guess they just opened the door. Debbun was not planking on top of that. Bronco. And also, they didn't put the. tops on right. The tops aren't screwed. in right now. So, that thing's getting. soaked up. I thought we had a nice hero story. I. just didn't want to ruin Get back out. there. Live shot. We don't have a live. shot. This is a recording from what. happened there. Obviously, where's the button? They haven't even. got close to putting a roof on that. thing yet. They're 35 40 seconds out.

there. They're in the back, boys. They're in. the back. What are what are we doing? Should we get the house? Should we get. boys? Great work. Hang on. Tom's looking. for the button to close the sun. There. they are. There we go. Hey, good find. though. They go straight to the back. I. appreciate that. Got to put the other. one up. Not that one. Okay. It's like. one of the door handle things where the. hinge. Okay. Yeah. No, they got it. I. think they matched it up there up top, didn't they? Yeah, they did. I think. that one's flat with Yeah, that was.

flush. Air tight. in the middle. I'm talking about not the. corners. Yeah, it's good enough. Yeah. Oh, no. It was better. They it up. one time. Yeah, I know. Now they're. going to shut the doors. Probably going. to hit the window. Probably windows are. broken right now. Yeah, they made it. worse. I'll still buy them lunch, though. They deserve it. I mean, shocking. Good work, boys. Thank you. Good work, gentlemen. It's weird. I I. would have That thing's going to be. drenched. Oh, god. It's built Ford. tough. Don't worry about it. All right. Uh, let's move along. Coming to us live.

from an attic in Ohio is a man who's a. college football national champion, a. Super Bowl champion, a Ryder Cup winner, and a man who he would have planked. Yeah, he would have no other option. No, exactly. If it was his truck, right, ladies and gentlemen, AJ Hawk. AJ Hawk. Hawker. We thought that he was. potentially planking that entire thing. Turns out that was not the case. Kind of. bummed out about that. Kind of bummed. out. Yeah. I mean, I do like to see the. recorded video. It is fun to watch them. try to troubleshoot uh in real time. But. yeah, it made me think of uh TC from.

what the first Mission Impossible when. he drops down. It made like thinking of. Debbone do that plank on all four posts. of that card. That's what I was thinking. of like in my head like a a weird super. advanced Pilates move that Debbone had. When talk told us that that's what. happened, I I didn't really believe it. Just to be clear, I did not think. Debbone had his right hand on the. windshield corner and his left hand. I. didn't think in my mind immediately upon. being told that, I was like, "That. doesn't sound real." Yeah. Then I went. to the bathroom and I came back and he. was drenched. His back was drenched. It.

was. So I was like, maybe he did become. a pond up there. Yeah. And uh turns out. n they just they were just as confused. as all of us. That would have been insane. Foxy, you're there, bud. It's okay. The. entire interior. But if it it if it's. supposed to have its top back, everything should be good, right? Cuz. they prepare for that type of stuff. Yeah. I had a Jeep I had a Jeep that uh. you we forgot to put the top on, you. know, numerous times cuz if you can't. They're meant to get rained on, right? They're meant like usually they're vinyl. or whatever the seats are. You can wipe. everything. It's good. I had a couple. boom booms in the back. Sure. Couple.

twelves. Uh neither of them worked at. the same time ever. Okay. Which was. really cool. But after the rain got on, neither of them worked. They were. actually just kind of taking up space in. the back. So, there is some downfalls of. just letting rain in your car. Uh but. whenever a storm comes out of nowhere, what are you supposed to do? AJ, did you. watch the draft last night? Big night. Cooper flag officially a Dallas. Maverick. And now they're talking about. the big D down there in Dallas. They got. a lot of big dudes that play big defense. for the Dallas Mavericks. This is.

exactly what Nico had been talking. about. And we buried them. We weren't. the only ones. Obviously, a lot of a lot. of people buried Nico. I think people. will still wait and see if Nico was. right or if this was a decision that. inevitably leads to the Mavericks uh. never making it back to the finals like. they did with Luca literally the year. before he decided to trade him away. I. appreciate the fact that he's sticking. to his guns and how he thinks he should. build a team. And obviously, if you get. the number one overall pick, a. generational talent like Cooper Flag, you should feel pretty good about. yourself. Yeah, I would say he feels.

pretty good about where he's at. 8% AJ. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Like the. fact that they got the pick alone is is. nuts to to think about, but it seems. like they're doing he's following his. plan. Like when he when he kicks Luca, you know, out of the club and says, "See. you, we don't need need you anymore.". And everyone gets all pissed off at him. Like he has a plan. I didn't know if he. anticipated getting the number one. overall pick, but it's pretty fortunate. spot to be in. It certainly is. And uh. yeah, he stuck to his guns. Hopefully, it works for him. People thought it was. such a bad move that he was trying to. tank the team. Instead, it's complete.

opposite. Cooper flag is a dog. That's. the main event. I saw Marty out in the. Atlantic. Was he in the Atlantic Ocean, Marty? I think so. Yeah, I saw him on. boat. Let me tell you a story. Yeah, he. did. And he definitely did. He was on. land there for a little bit with the. water as the backdrop. think that could. have probably happened, you know, got. the point across. Sure. But I did like. that he was out there. Yeah, Marty's. gonna hunting lobster. Yeah, he probably. was looking for some lobster. Looking. for some lobster in the world. Maine's. the lobster. This the lobster. Oh, capital of lobster. Yeah, would be Maine.

for sure. I've never been to Maine, I do. not believe. Oh, it's beautiful. Oh, that's way up there. Way up there. It's. gorgeous. Way up. Way up there. Yeah. Yeah. You're you're touching Canada. It's higher than where Sid was born. Yeah, it's higher than Sou Falls or. what? Or no, not Sou Falls. Santo show, whatever the I don't. know what it's called. It's right up. there now. All right, we got some. breaking news in the NFL. Uh, our. geography lessons are I don't know. Canada, sue me. I'm just as pissed as. the kid that got drafted to Toronto. about No, I don't think I don't think.

that was that kid who Colin Coward was. pissed that he was going up there. That's not his name. Okay, there there's. so much to to digest there. Um, I think. that was like a So, there's a Bob Knight. video about why the word uh, and there's. going to be a lot of just no sound here. on ESPN, but YouTube and everywhere else. will get to hear this. There's a Bob. Knight video. It is there's a lot of Bob. Knight videos, but there is a Bob Knight. video about him off the record doing. like a mic check, explaining why is.

his favorite word, and he breaks it. down. You can say it whenever you're. dismayed. A Whenever you're mad, you. when you're happy. Oh, You can use it in so many different He. literally goes on this full breakdown of. the word and why it's his favorite word. And then he like literally just stops. and they go, "Okay, Mike's working or. whatever." And then he just move on. And. he has a golf lesson video that you. need. I mean, there's Bob Knight. I love. the golf video. That's a that's a. beautiful one. Yes. But that that more. his favorite word one I think there's a.

chance that he was like, "Fuck like uh. like a good. relief. And humans talk there's some. humans I know not all cultures do this. but there are some humans I happen to. come from one of them where like that. word in other words are just like much. more and Bob Knight says like much more. versatile than how some people kind of. view them and it's already been proven. that people that swear are considered. more honest people and more intelligent. people. So I don't want to hear it from. uh you people that are filtering.

yourself all the time. If you filter one. thing, how much thing are you filtering? Dan Olowski, you said mother fudging the. other day. We know what you wanted to. say. Uh, weirdo. We That was We know. what in your head you said it and you. made us say it. So, thanks. So, God. heard you say it in your head. On you. Something to think about with your. muding. Yeah. Can't even get it out. Mhm. Anyways, I think it could have been. a positive one, but boy, everybody's. like, "This guy's thinking about. Canadian taxes already." I think it was. a relief one. Like, that's my favorite. is a relief where it's like aside.

Like, it's like I'm in the NBA. Yeah, you're right. Could have been it. Definitely could have been there. See, that one that Tony just did sounded more. like a. I guess we got to do this. That. That's what I picked up in the eye of. the beholder. Tony. Yeah, but he. literally just said that what he was. doing was relief. Yeah. Yeah. But the. sound of it. This is like what Colin. Morawa said to that reporter. Yeah. Bingo. Hey, the way you wrote that. surely made it sound Well, I didn't No, I didn't. You were so focused on your. tone on my tone. We know what you were.

doing. I'm a call and go weed and then. he had to take the high road. Then. everybody was calling Mora out for that. Yes. Yeah. He was like Mora was the guy. we're going after in that situation. because he finally just said hey I don't. like the way you painted me in that. entire thing. I had to do this. This is. a big part of the whole PGA. These. sponsors two and a half hours on this is. this is part of the business brother. That's you see these tables. They paid for me. I love that. I love. the Colin Morau fighting back. I love. the breakdown of uh one while.

standing up after getting drafted into. the NBA. I love the thought of Ace. Bailey doesn't want to go to Utah, doesn't want to go to Utah. Uh this is. the last place he wanted to go was Utah. That's a narrative out of it. Is there. any basketball narratives like, hey, these players fit in on these teams in a. really good way? Joining us now is a man. that will help us break that all down. This man played center for Duke. Okay, don't you worry about it. You want the. Duke. Was a dookie. Is a dookie. There's.

three dookies drafted in the first 10. picks last night. Obviously a part of. the college conversation in all sports, but more specifically basketball for. ESPN. We've grown up with him on. television. Ladies and gentlemen, Jay. Billis. Yay. Jay, how you doing? Jay, did you just call me old by saying. you've grown up with me? Yeah, that's. that's like the uh that's the way I slip. it in, you know? That's how I slip it in. there. But with that being said, you're. aging wonderfully. Hey, you look young, Jay. You look young. Good moisturizer. I.

don't know. Good moisturizer. Good. teeth. You look great. Yeah, I guess if. you call beer If you call beer. moisturizing, right? Uh let's talk about. last night. Three Duke guys go in the. top 10. Obviously, you have the Blue. Devils shirt on there. We have a Duke. fan who is a graphic designer who made. this at 2:00 a.m. last night as quick as. he possibly could. What are your. thoughts on the current Duke guys. getting this much of a nod and why do. you think the style of play is relating. so well from Duke into the NBA in your.

eyes? Yeah, I mean it's a good question. I don't know that it's necessarily style. of play as it is just the talent of. these individual guys like Cooper Flag. Um he's the real deal. Like people ask. like well what's so special about him? It's like dude just watch. um he does. everything and he's got a level of. competitiveness that is on the upper. tier of players that I've watched over. the last 30 years. Uh I'm not going to. say he's the most competitive, but he's.

right up there with the most competitive. that that I've seen. and uh with his. size and athleticism uh and all the. different things he can do on on both. ends of the floor. Um as long as he. stays healthy, he's going to be a a a. great great NBA player. And then Khan. Canipple can really shoot it. Like he's. got an elite NBA skill. He can really. shoot the ball. and the shot. He's not a. an an elite NBA athlete, but because. he's got that shot credibility, you got.

to get out to him and he'll give you a. shot fake and just drive right by you. and make a play off two feet. Uh, and. he's tough. Like, he's always around. He. gets so many loose balls. Um, you know, he wasn't like a top top uh 30 recruit. He was probably ranked in the in the 40s. maybe. But, uh, I know John Shy when he. was recruiting him, he said, "I don't I. don't care. like this guy is who I want. and he proved it. And then when Flag was. out during the ACC tournament, uh if I. remember right, he twisted his ankle.

like in game one of the tournament and. and early on, you know, Caniple stepped. forward. He was the best player in the. in the tournament after Flag was out. He. averaged 21 a game. They won the. tournament. Uh and then Malawatch is uh. is, you know, he's long. He's got like a. 76 wingspan. He's like a condor. And uh. and he had like 90 dunks on the season. 40 of them were lobb dunks off pick and. roll uh or out of the dunker spot and. he's a high level offensive rebounder. And I I don't know how you guys felt.

about all the crying last night. There. was a ton of crying but uh when when. when some of these guys were crying when. they got drafted, it was really moving. especially for him. were South Sudan and. uh you know the I think some of our. people that spent time interviewing uh. not just like a postgame or interview. but like Bobby Marx does these sitdown. interviews with these guys uh at the. combine and and preparing them for the. draft and he said in the years he's been.

doing that uh that's the best interview. he's ever had. Just a tremendous kid. That's awesome. I I cried on my draft. day I was pick 222. I'm cool with it. I. I it's a it's a whole life's work, a. dream coming true, but also an. understanding that you have an. opportunity now to kind of be talked. about amongst the greatest of all time. if you go and do your It's a. really emotional evening. I like that a. lot more than though we're trying to. judge whether or not a guy's happy that. he's getting drafted to the place that. he's getting drafted to. You know what I. mean? Do you agree, Jay? I do. I mean,

you know, look, it's kind of a balancing. act for uh for a guy like me. So, you. know, you don't want to sit up there and. say every player's the greatest thing. since sliced bread, but at the same. time, you don't want to dump on them. Um, because it's a it's a really. important night. Like, I look at draft. night as kind of, okay, this for the. players, this is a celebration of. reaching uh a dream. Now, the day after. the draft, they got to go out and. deliver. Yeah. Like that. That's the way. I look at it. But I don't want to rain.

on anybody's parade. But at the same. time, like you gota you got to be. straightforward and say, "Okay, this is. what this guy does really well. This is. what'll make him a a good NBA player.". But at the same time, the these are some. of the issues he's got to overcome. Yeah. Um cuz not everybody's going to be. an all-star. Not everybody's going to go. to the Hall of Fame. And sometimes, you. know, you get through the draft and some. people say, "Oh, everybody's good." You. know, you have to you have to kind of. balance it out and you try to do the. best you can. Yeah. I understand you got. to give realistic expectations too for. the fan base as opposed to just.

expecting these. That's why like player. comps are so tough when we do the draft. I hate when people do player comps. because it's like well he's very similar. to Tom Brady. It's like where skin's. white, he's tall. How about in between. the ears? What about like you can't it's. tough to do those types of comparisons. because the difference is here which we. all kind of understand whenever it gets. to professional sports or high level. sports to begin with and I don't think. you can really tell that you know like. you said Cooper flag is competitive edge. like I love to hear that like that is. every great has had that like it feels.

like that is something that every great. has had and if you're wondering if. somebody has it maybe they find it maybe. they don't I think that's the biggest. detail or determiner of bust or not. that's in our sport at least Jay. Yeah. No, it's the same. But I at least. I think it's the same. But you know, Cooper Flag's the easy one. You know, like uh my first draft for ESPN was uh. 2003 when LeBron was coming out and like. you knew that that that's different. Like you knew that that didn't take some. uh some like basketball genius to figure.

that out. But to your earlier point, like VJ Edgecom Baylor, um you know, he's 19 years old. He's from the. Bahamas. And on the player comp side, you know, you're saying like I'm saying, okay, he reminds me of Victor Oladipo. when he was 19 and Dwayne Wade when he. was 19. And and I'm I try to be. intentional about saying, look, I'm not. saying he's the Miami Heat Dwayne Wade. yet, but at 19, you couldn't tell these. two guys apart. You might even take. Edgecomb because I think Edgecomb at 19.

is probably better than Dwayne Wade was. at 19. Now at 20, Dwayne Wade was the. real deal. Um, and you're going, "Man, this guy's going to be really good." Um, uh, but you know, you do the best you. can and most reasonable people will uh. will take it the right way and some. people will run with it in the other. direction. What are you going to do? You. can't do anything. You'll get quoted out. of context, too. I mean, that's life. these days. Go ahead, AJ. Yeah, Jay, in. this uh in the second round, we hear. people in the NFL draft, they talk about. drafting like best available, the best.

available player on their board. What. are these like especially day two now? Are you trying to are these teams trying. to find like the guy, hey, this is the. best talent or are they trying to find. someone that fits in with their team and. their scheme and everything that they. run? Yeah, that's a great question, AJ. Not not that not that Pat's questions. weren't equally great. I set the table. for the great question. I I think it's if you've got a player. you think is a is the best available and. he's a he's a great asset that you can.

um you can use not only with your team. or maybe there's there's value out in. the marketplace for him. Of course you. take him. But I do think there's a. there's a component of fit in the second. round. So you're looking for guys that. have an NBA skill. So, if it's like Chaz. Laneir from Tennessee who didn't go in. the first round and he's he's available. in the second round, he can really shoot. it and uh and he's got he's got length. and athleticism, but that shooting piece. um uh is is really valuable. You don't. need him to come in and be everything.

You need him to come in there and make. shots. or if you got a guy who's a uh. got size and is a big-time shot blocker. Like I I happen to think that the the. best available player to start the. second round is a guy named Rashir. Fleming from St. Joseph's and he's one. of those 3 and D guys that's got these. freakishly long arms. Um and he can. guard multiple positions and he can. knock down open shots. You don't need. him to come in and be Scottie Pippen. you need to come in like like this is.

where you're finding guys that can play. a role and help you win. And if it turn. if somebody turns out to be Draymond. Green or you find like I I don't know. that anybody thought that Nicola Joic. when he was drafted in the 40s his draft. year was going to be the at some point. the best player in the world. He's. referred to as the Taco Bell pick. because we were in commercial and a Taco. Bell commercial was playing when he was. picked and then we had to report the. pick afterwards. Yeah. Who like who.

knew? Yeah. Um but but you know, you're. you're you're maybe you'll hit a home. run, but you're really trying to find a. player that can help you uh not only now. but in the future and maybe can develop. And then a lot of these guys are going. to be two-way players. Um there's going. to be some guys signed to standard. contracts. There going to be a number of. guys in this draft, maybe half the guys. in the second round might be signed to. two-way contracts where, you know, it's. a it's a combination. Uh you can play. like 45 days with the NBA team and the. rest of your contracts G-League and. they're they're uh you know, those.

contracts are uh are obviously cost. effective, but then uh it helps the it. helps the teams with roster management. Yeah, we saw Bronny do days in a G-. League go up. We've seen the two-way. players. Alex Caruso actually just. talked about how uh coach Dags treats. everybody from Shay to the two-way. players on the roster the exact same, which is why he thinks they do such a. good job. I think that's a good way to. describe, you know, alpha and omega of. the entire team, I believe, from top to. bottom, from beginning to end in it. Um,

whenever you think about those role. players, we're talking like Shepard, Nmith, TJ McConnell. Yeah, these are the. guys we're talking about, right? They're. more vital than anything, I think. Especially if you watch these NBA. playoffs. How many of these guys I I. don't know if this is a good question. Probably it depends draft to draft. percentage of success of guys in these. drafts cuz I know like the top always. does good. And then there was a Are you. talking about the in the second round, Pat, or just overall first and second. round as a whole? Like because I know. like the top good, but there for a while.

everybody from Europe was getting. drafted. He'll be over here in like two. three years. It's like I don't even know. what that means. like what is percentage. of hit rate out of the draft? Like I how. should we view it? Yeah, I I I think. having a productive NBA career in the in. the first round, you're probably looking. at I would venture to guess 60 70% that. are going to play multiple years and. have have solid careers at least. Um in. the second round, it's uh it's more uh. it's probably flipped the other way and. maybe 30% of the guys do. Okay. Um you.

know, there there aren't that many spots. in the league. you know, it you got you. got 15 roster spots plus a couple of. two-ways. Um, so you know, the average I. think the average length of a career is. like three or four years. And then you. got some of these guys that have played. LeBron's been in the league over 20. years and KD like 16 or 17 years, whatever it is. It's crazy how long. these guys play now when they're super. talented and how they take care of their. bodies. But, um, I don't know like the. miss rate, uh, I think is high. Um, and.

not necessarily misrate of of a player. who's going to make the NBA or not. It's. not a binary thing, but you know, sometimes like it's amazing how often. you're going, I I did not see Shay Gilis. Alexander. He was taken number 11 when. he came out in 18, I think it was. And. uh, and you know, hands up all that were. saying he's a future MVP. Just didn't. see that. Um, and other guys you think. are going to be really good and they. turn out to be they're good but they.

don't they don't scratch the you know. the greatness level and you know you can. sit and try to make ourselves feel. better that that you know your sport you. get four and five years to look at these. guys and there are still mistakes made. Um basketball you got they're 18 and 19. but one thing to your point about. internationals and all that one thing. you're seeing with NIL now players are. not only going to college they're. staying in college longer. So that the. second round is probably not uh I. haven't like, you know, done this with a. microscope, but the second round this.

year is probably not as good as the. second round like two or three years ago. because uh a lot of second round picks. are guys that would have come out two or. three years ago are staying in school. because they're going to make way more. money to stay in school. So if they're. not going to be first round picks, they're staying in. NIL for us is making. the later rounds better because there's. more players kind of coming out and. staying longer. for basketball. It's. interesting because they got a lot of. Hey, just quick off topic. Uh Connor was. going to bring up NIL to you. We had a. conversation earlier in the think tank.

These Big East teams that don't have a. football team really and with that. revenue split, they're going to be. right. Isn't that doesn't that feel like. quite an advantage with the way this. revenue split thing is going? Yeah, I I. think it puts them in an advantageous. position to be able to marshall more. resources to to acquire better talent. Absolutely. And you know, that's kind of. the the thing now is is like people are. going to have to make decisions like. this current system with the $20.5.

million cap under the house settlement. is only going to last for a certain. amount of time. Like there's no way this. lasts for for longer than than four or. five years at the most. All this does is. give the NCAA a chance to it gives them. some time to breathe without getting. challenged in court. so that they can. come up with a long-term solution. Whether that's collective bargaining, I. think that's one option. Uh try to. figure out a way to collectively bargain. with the players where you can get to a.

number that everybody's satisfied with, or go to Congress and and basically say. to Congress, look, you told us to get. our act together. We settled this case. We paid past damages and we've got this. framework. Take this framework of the. settlement and make it law so that you. can you can help protect us. But Pat, the one thing I think that that uh maybe. people aren't thinking about is if. Congress comes in and they're going to. limit the players, they're not going to. let the coaches make the kind of money.

they're making. Like they're going to. say, "All right, you get a cap, too, now." Like, so, you know, head coach at. Alabama, you're not getting 12 million. while the players are getting limited. Um, you're going to be limited, too, and. we're going to limit things across the. board and make this a little more sane. I I think that's a reasonable. possibility that that could happen. so. many potential lawsuits all the time in. that whole thing. They're talking about. a commission approving advertising. deals. It's like, okay, go ahead and say. no to one of those. That's a lawsuit. immediately. That's just one. They said. there was already 135 things being.

presented to a commission that I don't. even know if they know what they're. doing yet. It's like you can't turn down. any of those unless they are given the. power of law, which how does that even. work in America? I don't, you know, I. don't even know. I don't even know how. long that would take. I If you started. that today, would that was that is that. 10 years? Is that how long? You know, isn't that kind of the way the world. works with making laws? In the NCAA, they're not like, they're the Titanic as. well. They're not like the most nimble. thing. And then government not the most. nimble. I don't know the college. Every time we bring it up, I get worried.

about the f. I don't know how you figure. it out. I don't know how you figure it. out, Jay. Yeah, I'm not worried about it. cuz in my in my view, multi-billion. dollar entertainment industries don't. just fold up because they have to pay. their revenue drivers. That's not a. problem. Um, I get it that the coaches. don't like it, the administrators don't. like it because they had it a certain. way for a long time. And now, um, like. the way I see it, everything's going to. get a lot more efficient. You're not. going to have as many jobs in. administration. Um, you're not going to. see as many suits in uh, in team.

pictures because they're going to want. to allocate that money to uh to getting. the best talent on the floor, on the. field. So, I think that'll that'll shake. out a certain way. But I'm not. particularly worried about it. They'll. they'll figure it out because the amount. of money that's being made, nobody wants. that train to stop rolling and and with. all the complaining, and I get it, but. not one game has been cancelled and not. one check has been late. Everything's. rolling along just fine. It's just a. little more difficult to keep your.

roster together. But if you want to keep. your players, like if you want if you. want to keep players and not have them. transfer, then sign them to contracts, put a buyout in the contract. Let's. let's do this like the rest of normal. American business. It's really not that. difficult. Yeah. So, allegedly that is a. part of this ruling that just took place. in California or whatever for the next. four to five years. Hopefully, that's. able to settle it. And also, a lot of. these contracts that are given, who. knows if they're ever going to be. actually paid. I mean, there's a lot of. fraudulent contract. I mean, it's that's. what I'm talking about is all the. There's just so much. kind of on the outside of it. The.

product is so good to your point. All. right, let's get back to the draft. Uh. you talked about uh the Taco Bell bell. pick. Let's talk about another guy that. we learned about last night. Go ahead, Ty Schmidt. Yeah, Jay. Uh, when you look. at some of the other leagues drafts, I. think you'll see teams reach every once. in a while, but it's not crazy. And then. last night, we saw Yang Hansen, uh, out. of nowhere get picked 16th. He's sitting. up in the cheap seats. In your. experience, how often does this happen. in the NBA where like a guy who kind of.

everyone pegged as like a midsec rounder. all of a sudden goes just outside the. lottery? Not very often. Um, good question. And. but I'll I'll go back to the Nicole Joic. thing. So Joic was drafted in the 40s. when he came out of Serbia. And if it. had been the same thing where where. Portland picks him number 16 and he. walks out of the stands or he's not even. there, we'd probably be left scratching. our heads going, "Wait a minute. I I I. rank this guy in the 40s." Um, that's a.

reach and they probably would have taken. some criticism, but they got the guy. they wanted and look who he turned out. to be. So my view is if if you don't. have to give anything up, if it's just. this one pick and you know you want this. guy, what difference does it make? Go. ahead and get him. Like why wait and why. take the chance that somebody else is. going to get him in the meantime? Uh if. you're targeting him maybe in the second. round where you had him slotted or where. most people had them slotted. The the. one that's that is more of a.

headscratcher to me was uh New Orleans. So, New Orleans um uh made a trade to. get up to 13. They made a trade with. Atlanta. Oh, yeah. To go up and get. Derek Queen uh from Maryland. Big guy. and good player. But in order to do. that, they had to give up a first round. draft pick next year that's unprotected, which means that that pick could turn. out to be a top five pick. Um so that's. the one you question was did how much. did you have to give up uh in order to.

get it? like Portland got the guy they. wanted. Uh but they didn't have to trade. anything to get it. Uh New Orleans had. to trade something and uh and who knows. like they believe in Derek Queen. They. took Jeremiah Fear as number seven and. then Queen. Uh so you know by itself. you're going, "Hey man, that's a good. draft." But then you go, "But look what. they had to give up to get Derek Queen. Is that worth it?" Uh and we're not. going to know for a while. But if that. turns out next year to be like the. number one pick, they're going to hear. about it. Yes, for sure. And if Dererick.

Queen lives up to what we all I think. you watched him, we got a chance to chat. with him. Love his mentality. Love his. answer he gave in the huddle, you know, before the gamewinner shot. What he said. to his coach about giving me the ball. Love his mentality. Love his ability. I. think he had braces. Like real young. We're talking about like being. incredibly young. You mentioned that. about being 18, 19 years old. So. obviously we hope it works out. And if. he ends up being a perennial all-star, nothing will be said. Just like Nico. down there in Dallas, he got murdered.

Loud. He was loud about how dumb this. guy was. He's trying to tank the. Mavericks. This guy's the worst general. manager in history. He's going to deal. with the league to make the Lakers. better. This guy who's the general. manager of the Mavericks. And then all. of a sudden, we're looking at the team. going in next year, like, wait a minute, Nico had a vision here. It seems like. they might be able to have a team, and. they got a 1.8% chance of winning that. lottery. They win it. Maybe Nico's being. blessed by the basketball gods. We never. know until a few years down the road. If. Derrick Queen's a guy, they won't judge. him. If he's not, this Dumar's guy is. gonna be called killed. They said the.

worst, Bill Simmons called it the worst. trade in all of sports in the last. decade, I believe, was his quote. It's. like Bill is a NBA basketball guy. Uh he. wasn't the only one saying that. There's. a lot. Now, on the complete opposite end. of the spectrum, AP Tone has a question. for you, Jay. Yeah, Jay, real simple. Did you have a uh favorite pick from. last night? Um that's a good question. I mean, I. Well, my favorite pick was Cooper Flag, Dylan Harper, because they're the two. best players. Wow. Um I I thought I. thought OKC um you know being defending.

champion got uh got a good pick. Uh I. can't remember I think it was around 15. they took Thomas Sorber of Georgetown. and he kind of fits their culture. perfectly. Like I don't know how you. guys feel about it watching Oklahoma. City but um I if if they don't have the. best front office in basketball um. there's not a long roll call in that. Like Sam Prey is so smart and they draft. talent, but man, they draft character. and they got a guy in Sorber who's a, you know, shot blocker kind of uh.

interior, uh, you know, lane presence. and I think he's got a chance to be to. be very good. Um, but he's going to fit. he's going to fit what they do. And I I. just like I got a chance to do a bunch. of NBA games this year and I loved every. second of it, but uh I loved watching. Oklahoma City more than anybody just. because of the how hard they play. together and uh in the way they guard. and to your point earlier when you're. talking to Caruso uh who's a great dude. by the way. Um he like those guys they.

never get too high or too low and like. Mark Dnald if they win or lose his whole. thing is let's win the off days. like. we're not going to beat ourselves up. over losing and we're not going to crown. ourselves king over winning. You know, what did we learn from the last game is. going to make us better in the next one. And uh I mean it's a it's a it's a. really cool organization and Sorber I. think fits their culture really well. Yeah. Yeah. In fact, it looks like. they're going to be good for a while. though. That's what that's what it looks. like. As somebody that lives in. Indianapolis, Indiana, I think they'd.

say Prey and Pritchard and Bird over. here in Indiana pretty good at putting. teams together. first two teams to make. the finals without hitting the luxury. tax uh in the history of the luxury tax. being implemented. So you're talking. about building a team the right way. Now. decisions are going to have to be made. though because once you start winning. that's when you know the money goes. So. getting a young dog pivotal to the. entire process. Go ahead AJ. Yeah Jay. what are your expectations for Cooper. Flag in his rookie season? What do you. think it looks like? Is the team going. to be successful? Do they have to win. for people to look like I mean it seems.

like a lot on this dude's shoulders. Obviously number one pick. There's high. expectations, but people are expecting. him to average a triple double off the. jump. I feel like, well, he'll have some. triple doubles. He won't average it uh. cuz he won't need to. Um the key for. Dallas is going to be can they get Kyrie. Irving back healthy kind of middle of. the season like he had an ACL so he's. going to be able to come back from that. uh during the season if everything goes. well. Um, and like Flag's one of those.

guys, you know, talking about like, you. know, sort of competitiveness's. mentality, like he's not one of those. guys that's going to go into a game. thinking I I'm going to get 25 in this. one or I'm going to get a triple double. He really does think about I'm going to. make the right the right play. Oh, no. And then he stacks the right play over. and over again. And at the end of the. game, he may have 25 and 12 rebounds and. six assists and, you know, three steals. and a couple of blocks. that's kind of. the way he's built. Um he's got this.

interesting um interesting combination. of humility. Like he doesn't think he. knows it all and he's going to be a. member of a team and ego cuz he knows. he's the best player and like that's the. like he's got a great ego. Like coach. Kay used to say all the time, not all. the time, but he he would like he wasn't. interested in this uh uh thing about. check your ego at the door. He's like no. bring your ego with you. Like your egos. are great, but blend your ego in with. the the wei part of the team. Like make.

your ego part of the team. All these. egos blended together are really good. And uh and Flag kind of does that. I. don't want to say it's natural, but but. whether it's learned or natural, he does. that. And uh he he he's a he's a unique. dude. And uh they don't make him they. don't make him that good very often. Not. only athletically, skill-wise, but but. his makeup as an athlete. It's really. impressive that ego quote from Coach K. uh makes sense why Coach K is coach Kay. because that is such a better way to.

describe it than you we don't need egos. right now. It's like every guy that's a. professional athlete has an ego. Every. every single one of them. Let's try to. get these egos to be rowing in the same. direction as opposed to stealing moxy or. confidence from somebody. Cannot wait to. watch Cooper. Cannot wait to watch. second round of the NBA draft. Are you. on it tonight? Yeah. Yeah, I'm on the, you know, I was a fifth round pick, so. uh second round is still a dream for me. Okay. Well, we can't wait to watch you. live a dream, brother. Ladies and. gentlemen, J.

[Music]. Oh, that's awesome. Great skin. He said. he drinks beers. Teeth, too. Oh, yeah. I. was around him. I I I think two times. Every time we've had I think I think. I've had a jock and diet. He's had a. beer. I believe every single time we've. seen him. J football. I think it is Jay. Billis football. He does game day. Obviously he did game day for a long. time. Does game day for a long time. Big. So a lot of the same people that do. production stuff for football game day. He also do basketball game day. They. they say he is a legendarily hilarious.

person. They they say like yeah dry. It's all very you know but he's always I. guess great teammate. And then that. coach K quote awesome AJ. That's so. good. So good cuz it's such like an old. cliche thing. Oh chook your ego out the. door. Especially basketball, you better. have an ego because if you miss the. first three threes you take, you better. continue to put them up. You heard what. Q Rich saying, hey, I'm a shooter. Like, if I miss the first seven, guess what? I'm still shooting eight, nine, and 10. cuz something it's eventually going to. go in. Like, you have to have delusional.

confidence and ego, I think, to play. basketball. It's kind of taught to you, I think, like, hey, this is how you're. supposed to think because there's going. to become bad days. It's like whenever. you're uh like a kicker. When I was. doing my kicking stuff, they would tell. stories of previous kickers, you know, after missing asking to line up again. and kick it again. Like these are like. mantras like, "Hey, this is how you. should be thinking as a kicker. This is. the mindset you're going to need to. have." If a member of your team bets you. that you'll miss, you always double it. and say you'll make it. And then by the. way, you make it. Uh that is like kind. of the basketball players, shooters more.

specific. It's like every shot's a best. shot. Next shot's best shot. Does not. matter. Golfers, I think the same exact. thing. Especially you, AJ. I mean, AJ. has an unflapable positivity whenever it. comes to golf. I don't know if that's. just your mindset, what you think other. golfers should be, but you have it. because if you get into a slump in. anything, basketball, golf, kicking, pitching, batting, it's all in between. here, you know, and normally it's you. telling yourself that you're in the. slump. So if you have uh you know.

somebody that's like hey you should be a. little bit uh yeah we want you to walk. in here with that. It's like you're. going to need that probably at some. point as well. Well and Cooper Flag too. like he's going to Dallas and Anthony. Davis and Cooper Flag they were a part. of the whole entire Olympics training. this summer. So, if anybody knows like. how good Cooper Flag is, not just from. watching him or everyone talking about. him, like Anthony Davis was in the gym. with Cooper Flag as they're getting. ready for the Olympics and Cooper Flag. is, you know, making moves on Kevin.

Durant and and, you know, falling his. own rebound and Duncan. So, it's almost. like, hey, the proof is in the pudding, of course, with college and all that, but like Anthony Davis has been able to. see Cooper Flag do this against. legitimate NBA, some of the best players. in the entire league. So if there's any. ego from Cooper flag, I bet Anthony. Davis also who was the number one pick. to New Orleans. New Orleans also that. was during the time when you know they. tried to trade Chris Paul the Lakers. conspiracy of course but still if there. was a guy that knows like hey you don't. need to check your ego because you are.

that good it'd probably be Anthony Davis. and the guys in there. I love that Nico. might end up getting a last laugh. Yeah. I don't I'll be honest. Why? I hate it. I'm I'm pro player. Like I hope Luca has. a lot of success in LA as well. But just. the way the entire world responded, just. Sham's tweet out. Y one response. Anthony Davis wasn't even a part of this. thing. Anthony Davis wasn't even part of. it. It was Lucas with LeBron and then.

this guy's a That was that was. the two respons. He got bailed out by. Adam Silver and in the commissioner. And. whether you want whether you believe. that or not, like let's say you don't. believe that, fine. And I'm not saying I. believe that per se. Nico to me is still. a He just got so lucky. And. whether you think it's luck or not, like. if he didn't have Cooper Flag and they. let's say they were the third overall. pick and then they they they draft Ace. Bailey and Ace Bailey doesn't want to go. to Dallas or something. Oh, he won't go.

Yeah, of course. But something along. those lines like he got so lucky that. the that we don't know yet. We don't. know how it's worked out. Nico said. fortune favors the bold brother. He did. say that. Not a bad quote. He should be. doing a lot of that and then we'll see. if they end up winning. Speaking of. winning, we're going to talk to a man. who won everything that he's ever done. Yeah. Mhm. When I say his name, you'll. immediately think of like 45 different. things that he's done. All of them could. die. Yeah. Every one of them. And he's. just smiling. Jump out of a plane with. no parachute. This guy.

jump a derp over every the world if it. was possible. This guy race NASCAR. This. guy. You name it. This guy. Can he die? Yes. Who is it? This guy. Ladies and. gentlemen, the 30th anniversary of the X. Games will take place on ABC on June. 27th. Representing the XG Games, a man. who made us all fans because of his big. old gut sack and talent. Ladies and. gentlemen, Travis Fraa. Hey, thanks for.

the intro. Much appreciated. That's. real. I told you that I went to a Nitro. Circus show here in Indianapolis that. you guys had on the south side of Indie. I watched your entire crew do the thing. I grew up watching you be an absolute. madman. Now, I know that is not how you. view it. You just Well, it's just kind. of my talent, my thing. You all that. I appreciate your commitment and. uh risktaking for our entertainment. So, first of all, Travis Pana, we appreciate. you. Thank you, Travis. Dude, are you. kidding me? Thank you for having me on. the show, man. and I really appreciate.

it. It's been uh it's been a lot of fun. and yeah, going to live forever. Yeah, let's go. Okay. All right. So, I love. that that still exists inside. You're. not competing at this year's X Games, but I do believe obviously we're. celebrating the 30th anniversary. What. should people know about what's. happening at the X Games? And is it. changed at all since the, you know, over. the last 30 years of watching? Man, XG. Games is awesome. It's still, you know, ABC uh and uh ESPN. I mean, you can now. stream it on on Roku. You can watch it. pretty much everywhere, YouTube. But at. the end of the day, what's really cool.

now is that XG Games has evolved so much. where it used to be, you know, uh, bungee jumping and downhill street luge, and now it's it's your best BMXers and. your best skateboarders, your best. motocrossers, you know, people are going. to the Olympics from the X Game. So, it's no longer that sport, the the. hooligans in the corner. It's people. like since Tony Hawk and Tony Hawk's pro. skater going out there and actually. being able to make a living on kids. toys, making a living on their passion. And it's pretty cool. Yeah. Yeah, and. Salt Lake City is a beautiful place. The. backdrops are going to be outrageous. I.

always enjoy the setup of everything. that takes place. Who are some of the. big names that we should look forward. to? Who should we do some research on in. this X Games? Who's going to steal the. headlines? Oh man, you know, I'm I'm a fan of the. old school guys. You got Ryan Sheckler. coming back. Anyone that's that's been. around, he's uh give the the skate guys. a run for their money, which is going to. be really cool. Uh Kobe Raha, he's. always just someone that's so exciting. for me to watch in freestyle motocross. And R. Willie, dude, he started out as a.

scooter rider, a nitro circus. Everyone. gave him a hard time because we're like, "Oh, scooter kid." So he jumped on. Andrew Aimata's BMX bike in Final. Trains. Did a trick that no one in the. world had ever done on a bicycle, not. even his own bicycle. Went on to become. the winningest and the greatest big air. action sports BMXer in the world. If I. was going to say watch one person, it'd. be R. Willie. Oh, so R. Willie starts at. Nitro Circus on a scooter, goes over to. a bike, becomes the greatest of all. time. Yeah. Thank goodness he hadn't. gone motorcycles yet. I still got a job. over here. Yeah. Amen. Amen. Sounds like.

R. Willy could probably do whatever the. hell he was willing to do. So on the. scooter, he did the back flip on the big. uh the big thing on Nitro Circus, the. big uh ramp. So R. Willie has done and I. he So the Aussie roll was the biggest. trick that I ever did on a motorcycle. Two back flips and one 360. So, like. basically a, you know, double cork 1080. for the snow uh snowboarders. But, uh, the coolest part, R, our Willie on his. scooter, he did it first and they did it. on a BMX bike, too. Three back flips and.

a full spin. He does two back flips, two. full spins. It's like full gymnastics, but they do it with style and it just. it's it's really amazing to see. So, he's been trying basically a double back. flip, but not a flare on a halfpipe. I. want to see if he can get that done this. year. Yeah, me too. Rillie, let's go. Let's see if we can get that done. And. then I remember Sheckler. Is this him? Is this our Willie? This This is. actually our Willie right here. That might be in Indianapolis, Indiana. right there. Uh that setup. I might have. seen that happen live. You had a lot of. talent. I mean, there was I believe.

there was a man in a wheelchair that did. a uh a backflip off the padded uh ramp. at Nitro Circus Show. He he just learned. he landed a double backflip full twist. Aaron Wheels Fatheringham Spinoifida. the the world gave him a wheelchair and. he made it uh he turned it into an. absolute just icon. He started his own. sport, wheelchair motocross, man. He's. uh true inspiration. This dude. outrageous. I mean, he top of the thing. obviously zoomed in on the camera. You. see it on the thing. Everybody's going. crazy. He rolls down this ramp that's. like straight down and then this ramp.

send. It's a full It's a high school. football. It's a football field. So, they're going like 30 yards, 40, I don't. know what the exact mount is. You. probably know that to a science or. whatever. He's flying through the air. He lands. Fireworks go off. They They. start sending It was the. outrage. It It was the most outrageous. thing. I'm on I don't know at that time. probably 80 milligrams just sitting in. the stands like what is going on here? It was uh it was wonderful. But. nonetheless, I probably saw R. Willie. then. Let our Willy know we can't wait. for him to do his thing. And Sheckler's. reality show was fantastic. So handsome.

So cool. So cool. Sh. Go ahead, AJ. Go. ahead, AJ. Yeah. Travis Pat mentioned. you jumping out of the airplane. Obviously shirtless. No, no shoot. all. that you linked up. You you figured all. out. This was such a bizarre situation. Like out of everything you've done, I'm. sure you've talked about like what gave. you the most anxiety, the most nerves. going into a certain thing that you've. done, you've obviously ridden. everything, jumped everything. Like was. this the moment was like right now when. you have nothing and you're just free. falling. Like what would what would it. feel like right now? He's doing flips. He's like, "Yeah, I mean I I had I had.

great people around me there." That's. kind of a pass or fail test. Always like. those the most for sure. Um, I think. anything that you're not prepared for, you know, at the end of the day, you. know, when you get to X Games, you have. your stuff. You should have it pretty. well dialed. And, you know, that's what. for me, Nitro Circus is what kind of we. started. And like you're talking about, um, that it was just it's we used as. much safety as possible to make the. biggest, most outrageous stuff and the. the best ways for people to learn. And. they're taking it now to the Olympics, they're taking it to snowboards, they're. taking it to every other thing. And X.

Games is kind of that. It's your. Olympics of all of action sports. So, it's the biggest, the best, and it's. really cool. Kind of, you know, if Nitro. Circus went away to try to do the big. era of action sports where, you know, we. want to see how big the ramps can go, X. Games went and said, "Okay, let's. standardize it a little bit. Let's make. it so everyone is on an equal playing. ground and let's see who is truly the. world's best." So, it's kind of like if. you take uh Nitro Circus is what can be. done and how can we make it as safe as. possible and X Games is like, "Okay, you. figured out how to do it with your trick. ramps and your your airbag landings.

Let's take it to dirt and let's see. who's got the guts to really land it and. figure out who's the best overall. I. love that. I love the evolution here of. extreme sports and uh what was that uh. you guys had that uh padded uh landing. What was it? You used to have to get a. crane to get your bike out of it. What. was it? Yeah, so we started with the. foam pit. Uh we realized that foam was a. petroleum product is actually flammable. So we went to airbags after that which. doesn't catch on fire with You just said. the airbag pit there. So what do you you. just have a massive airbag like uh like.

the stunt people do that are jumping out. of there and you just jump your bikes. onto? So over the the past 20 years the. evolution of airbags we use like this. company called Bag Jump and we're like. hey what if we put So when Josh Shihan. came out here to learn a triple backflip. on a dirt bike he's going over 100 ft. high right and you're like okay if you. mess this up it is it's not life or. death metaphorically it is life or. death. And Josh was, you know, he was. actually pissed in blood and broke a. couple ribs and knocked himself out just. going to the flat bag. He said, "Can we. get a bag that's on the same incline as.

the down ramp?" So, when we make this. wood or metal or dirt or whatever we're. going to do, he's like, "I need to know. that I'm spot on." And we've just taken. every step that we can, and it's always. going to be dangerous. It's never going. to have a reset button. But at the same. time, how can we keep everyone to be. able to, especially during the shows, how can we get the guys to do the and. girls to do the biggest stunts night. after night? And yeah, it still hurts. It still sucks, but to be able to get. back up and try it again. And I feel. like that's the evolution since, you. know, since our day riding, you know, BMX bikes and setting up wooden ramps in.

the in the backyard and doing it to. concrete. We figured out a way to go way. bigger, uh way more uh spectacular, but. it's not the evil conval, you know. Yeah. Let's see. That's uh we're good. Let's send it. Yeah. A little more. information. Feels like science has. gotten involved. I think there was pad. on the ramp as well, but it wasn't like. enough pad that it slowed you down cuz. like that's also a massive deceleration. Not great. I don't think so either in. all this I mean, you got to. measure it all out. I love that we've. gone full circle on like the crash pads. Well, the one was flammable. So, turned.

out like, yeah, the crash landing not. good. Fire much worse. We've had to move. along. I appreciate that you're a guinea. pig for an entire thing of sports. With. that being said, we are a little bit. older. Ty has a question for you. Yeah, Travis. Uh, you just talked about the. inherent danger with like everything. that you do, but as you've gotten older, obviously you're married, you have kids. now. Are there certain things where. you're just like, "Hey, guess what? The. the juice just isn't worth the squeeze. doing this type of stuff anymore because. I am getting older, or are you going to. basically continue to do this type of.

until you're physically not able. to?" Uh, risk versus reward, sir. It's. uh it always changes. And there's a lot. of stuff that I don't regret doing. anything because it built the person. that I am today, but there's a lot of. stuff you look back when my dad I'm. like, "Man, hindsight's 2020." He's. like, "I could have told you exactly. what was going to happen before you hit. that ramp, you idiot." So, uh, it's it's. been a fun ride. Um, and at the now my. goal is actually kind of safety for the. next generation. It's just say, "How can.

we get the most amount of people?" I. mean, there was a girl, so she went to a. Nitro Circus show um, in England in the. O2 Arena and she reached out to my wife. on social media who's, you know, she's. actually my wife's skating right now in. the she-shed. It's got a halfpipe in the. background. So, it's an action sports. family, but this girl Olivia from. England saw a Nitro Circus show, reached. out to my wife on social media and says, "I want to be the first girl to ever do. a backflip on a dirt bike." Fast forward. 3 years. She's kept in touch with my. wife. She comes out and at 11 years old, she lands here at my house, of the land,

whatever you call it. She did a backflip. on a dirt bike at 11 years old. I mean, you can imagine Carrie Hart. He is now. married to a rock star for trying for. crashing a backflip in the 2001 X Games. and you have an 11-year-old girl that. can reach out and figure out a way to. safely make that progression now. And. that's been such an honor and a. privilege to be in a position to kind of. help. And yes, it is dangerous. Yes, there are many things that can go wrong. But for people that have the passion.

that want to do this stuff, let's make. it as safe as possible and let's help. everyone kind of get to their goals no. matter where you are in life. And I. think now with all of the internet and. the social media and everything, if you. truly are working hard, if you are. dedicated, if you are doing something. that no one else is doing, you you'll be. found. And it's pretty cool. Hell yeah. That's good. That's good speech right. there about life, not just uh extreme. sports. Pastana land, you said whatever. you call it. Is that what you call it? It sounds like that's what you call it. Sounds like a great place. No, that's. what everyone else calls it. I just call. it home in my head. Yeah, in my head I.

just see like perches for things to get. jumped off. I I see like the PR. There's. a helicopter I think probably somewhere. around there. Maybe a shipping container. that you people blast their shoulders. off of when you don't hit the foam pit. I remember that back. Boom. Yeah. Yeah. Everywhere. Yeah. Oh, we got an eyes on. Pastana land here. Actually, guy just. missed the entire pit. Yep. There's a. racetrack. Obviously, we got that. Uh, that's the pit I'm talking about. Oh, we're taking beers midair. Oh, sound. like a good slide. Yeah. Yeah, that's.

exactly what I thought Land would be. Yeah, I do appreciate that. So now my. wife just we just got the she shed put. up because we're getting older. So it's. now has air conditioned heater. Uh we. got the gym in there, my office over top. for like uh you know doing what whatever. you know whatever I do. And Lindsay. actually is skating right now. There's. like 20 people over there. I was just. actually upside down in a vehicle. I. don't crash very often, but we got a lot. of rain and someone's like, "Oh, hit the. big jumps." I was like, "Yeah, sure.". And literally that's why I'm here in. this and not in my studio that's up. there. Uh because I was just flipping.

back over a vehicle that was stuck under. the mud literally like 30 seconds before. I got on here. So yeah, life hasn't. changed much. Uh thanks for having me. on. This is uh it's been a great great. experience. Wow. That was a great close to. that. We're still live. We are no longer. live on ESPN. We are still live on. YouTube, ESPN Plus, Disney Plus, and. maybe Tik Tok Live. They take us down. every other day. But like um you nailing. the out there because you saw the. countdown on the screen. Obviously, you. saw that. Okay. Nice. I How many How.

many concussions you think you've uh. suffered documented. on film? Like out cold for more than a. few seconds? I've had at least probably. 30 on film. Okay, that's 30 concussions. Hold on. Broken bones now. Broken bone. Let alone let alone all the other. concussions. I I mean, I know there's. probably others that you haven't just. been on film knocked out for numerous. seconds. How about the broken bones? Is. that a tough one? It sounds like you. said that's a tough one. It's a tough. one to answer because say you have 40. fractures over seven bones but it's one.

injury is like do you count every fra. you know I mean like so I had I. shattered my hip and pelvis I don't know. what that means or how many broken bones. like I did tailbone back uh multiple. like the hip pelvis was shattered ended. up with a new hip uh my foot for. instance I broke tip fib and then. everything across the foot where was. just powder so like there's instances. where you know humans aren't supposed to. go 70 mph and fall from 100 feet in the. air with 200 120 lb motorcycles on top. of them. Um, yeah, you know, it I. nothing like football where you got huge.

people running the other direction. But, you know, I I didn't do any of that. AJ. did a lot of that. But with that being. said, it wasn't from 70 ft in the air. with gravitational pool working against. you and weight. And I think E= MC² has. happened to your body numerous times. You've had 30 documented knockout uh. concussions. You've broken a thousand. bones, whatever it is. You're the first. one to see the countdown clock on the. screen. Yeah. And hit it perfect. You. need to know that you feel good about. whatever the you're doing with that.

brain. You need to share that. information with the NFL maybe. Yeah. Like that is in fight mixed martial. arts. I think boxing you're on it. Hey, you're on. Are you taking care of your. body? Do you do brain stuff? Do you do. body stuff? Like how do you manage all. that? So, uh, my dad was a Marine. We. have a lot of military in this area. We've always kind of reached out. We've. been, uh, lucky to be friends with a lot. of the Black Rifle coffee guys. And. what's really cool is Marcus Latrell is. the lone survivor. Um Wahlberg played. him in the movie. His brother Morgan is. a representative in Texas and.

everything. Uh he was a Navy Seal as. well that he got his helicopter got shut. down. And this guy, he was beat up more. than anyone on the face of the earth. And he actually went down to Texas and. found like the best head doctors, the. best everything. And we went through the. boot camp. We paid for for ours to go. down, but learning what all the military. has learned and all the injuries that um. you know that they've suffered over the. years and and what the the US government. has put into it. They took some NFL. players and they took some Nitro Circus. athletes. We went down there and learned. a lot about head injuries. Learned a lot. about what's really interesting is.

genetics. Almost all the top freestyle. motocrosses, our grandparents were. almost all boxers. My granddad was. Golden Glove boxer. He was in the Navy. Uh Josh Shehan, you look down the line. So, I'm sure it's a lot of the same in. football. Like, we come from maybe not. the most intelligent family, but all of. my uncles, all my cousins, they're all. division one. Uh, you know, they didn't. go for for the education part, uh, but. they definitely went for the sports. part. They were if they were military. and, uh, they were they were rugby, they. were wrestling. Um, so I was the run to. the family. And I was fortunate enough.

to to be surrounded by just a really. good group of people that my uncle. actually played quarterback for Denver. Broncos, uh, 69 and 70. Uh, he got. knocked out by High Tower from Police. Academy. Um, sure. Ended his career. early. Um, that sounds like that's a. family combo. That that sounded pretty. quick. Yeah. Yeah. But so my uncle said, Uncle Allen, he goes, "The moment that. you stop, you're done." And uh, you. know, he had no ACL in either knee, his. back was all messed up, his shoulders, everything. And he ended up teaching um, well, he taught lacrosse and football at.

a local community college, but he also. took senior citizen citizen health. class. And he so every morning he was up. early with all the seniors doing. aerobics and that kept him he was as fit. as can be. He was broken as can be but. stayed fit. And I think him every time I. got hurt from the time I was broke my. first uh I broke my first bone when I. was 8 years old and he took me from the. time that cast came off physical. therapy. And that was his biggest thing. was figure out what your body needs. Keep moving and let's get healthy.

That's awesome message I think for. everybody trying to maintain lifestyle. and life as a whole. You got to stay. active. Got to get the blood pumping. It's not just physical, too. It's mental. as well as you move forward. Uh, last. question about the X Games here, Travis. Pastana. And we can't thank you enough. We got life lessons in here. We've heard. some absurd stories. Health lessons. Health lessons in this entire thing. Land. Yeah. Pastana land. Neat. Where is. it? What state is that? No, it's it's. off the grid. It doesn't exist. It's in Maryland. If you ever get bored, come on out. We'll we'll have some good.

times. Okay. So, Rough Riders Anthem. music video made me want to ride him a. dirt bike. And then Travis Pastana made. me want to backflip a dirt bike. Now I. can do a backflip on a trampoline. I can. do a backflip uh used to be able to do. standing back flip. Can do back flip off. top rope in wrestling ring. Uh is that. all good news for me to be able to. backflip a motorcycle? Is that a part of. it or is that all bike? Is that body. control or bike control? 100% body. control. The best riders in the world. have a really hard time doing a back.

flip. They take off in your program to. always see where the landing is. You. take someone with no experience. So my. wife, three-time XG Games, gold medalist. and skate, two-time world champion, great like trampoline air awareness, can't ride a motorcycle save her life. Her second day ever on a motorcycle, barely made it to the takeoff ramp, got. a backflip all the way around the wheels. just in the foam pit cuz if she took it. to dirt, she wouldn't know how what to. do after she landed. Um, but you, my. friend, no problem. Day one, attempt. one, you're going to get it right. around. It's just commitment. Boom.

There it is. Astra. Yeah. Yeah. Australia. All right. Last question. about the Shout out to your wife, by the. way. Yeah. Legend. Absolute dog. Sounds. like uh skater, we're saying. Is that. what we said? Gator. Yeah. I got I got. really lucky for sure. She's uh she was. actually in the last Tony Hawk Pro. Skater. And yeah, I guess it's just she. won her first X Games golden medal uh. when she was 14 years old. So definitely. lucked out. She's a badass and. definitely an awesome mom as well. Prona. land. Pronto land. That's what it sounds. like. Uh Tone has a question for you.

Yeah, Travis, you, Shawn White, Tony. Hawk are all legends of the X Games, but. I saw Sal Masaka is back uh hosting for. 2025. What is like what does S mean for. the entire XG games community and all. those sports and that he's hosting and. has been there for so long? Dude, to have Smma back is absolutely. amazing. He's he's the voice of X Games. and honestly you got this guy Jeremy. Bloom who took over because when CO hit. football guy football guy yeah so this.

no twotime Olympian for the US for. skiing goes gets comes back NFL draft. plays for I think got drafted I think. for the Jets ended up with the Steelers. We're not going to talk about the. Steelers but you know I'm I'm a. Baltimore guy but um but anyway Aaron. Rogers playing for the Steelers now. Oh, mama. I'm in. Well, I'm not going to get. into it. You're right. You're right. Ravens, great team. John Harbaugh just. squatted 405. I saw John Harbaugh squad. 405 the other day. But go ahead, Jeremy. Bloom obviously part of it. But so, so.

Bloom, he comes back and I mean just a. smart smart human being, been successful. at everything that he's done and he. comes in with that athlete perspective. He's like, look, when XG Games was huge, we had larger than-l life personalities. guys like Dave Meer, Tony Hawk, um you. know, you had even Ryan Sheckler a. little bit later, um Mike Mezer, uh Mad. Mike Jones, like everybody was this. character. Brian Degan, Metal Militia, and he's like, "We're going to come back. and we're going to give these athletes a.

place to grow their brands." He goes, "Let's instead of thinking about how we. can make the event better, how can we. make the athletes bigger? How can we. find more talent? How can we make it. more accessible?" And I think this is. going to be the start of a new. generation of X Games. And you know, I'm. just so excited to see where it goes. I. mean, I'm Nitro Circus. We're kind of. like the big air um not sideshow, but we. tried to do the newest stuff. And. Bloom's reaching out to saying, "Okay, how can we get how can we safely merge. this to where you guys can be the crazy.

shenanigans over here that are pushing. this culture and let's let's build these. athletes together and let's see how we. can make these men and women actually. make them a good living by doing what. they love and traveling the world with. their friends. Great brand. XG Games is. a great brand. always has been for our. generation. Shout to Bloom. Uh. understanding the opportunity, earning. the opportunity, and now I can't wait to. see what he does with it. Football guy. Yeah. He was returner, right? I think if. I recall and he was receiver a little. bit, but yeah, punt returner. I think he. was returner. That's how I I think. And. I think I've been at a maybe a function.

or two with old Bloom. I remember great. dude, great athlete, obviously, sound. businessman. And if he's bringing sound. mass Caleb back, he knows what he's. doing in my eyes. I think he knows what. he's doing. And also partnering with. you. We appreciate the hell out of you, Travis. Uh, stay safe, dude. My turn. Do. my best. Hey, you guys, too. I I want to. see you out back flipping. All you guys. come on out to Mr. Land one day. Okay. Do you have good internet there? Yeah, we can get it. Okay, that sounds like a. no. All right. All right. Ladies and. gentlemen, Travis. Hey, Travis. We can.

figure that out. Okay, we got 14. ramps around here. We We build things. around here. Yeah, we can get a Starlink. plugged in here. Yeah, we can certainly. do. How about that aerial shot up land? Got a racetrack over here. Got a. barn over here. Got a state skate ramp. over here. You got a jumping pad over. here. I I used to watch a lot of the. Nitro Circus stuff in Travis Pastana in. the X Games. That was great times. Summer just Hey, what are these. psychos going to do? Yeah, perfect. Legit. It was like what are they? He's. always so juiced, too. Like it is it's.

unbelievable the amount of injuries that. do a fake hip. I don't know how many. fake body parts he has, but like the. fact that he can walk still and he's. always he's always so juiced and so. pumped about whatever he is doing. That's why he's so fun. I was trying to. contemplate on whether or not we bring. this up and ask him if this is actually. his X-ray or if somebody just made this. up. But it would make sense. It makes. sense. They obviously got one thing. wrong. We know that there's a Uhhuh. Yeah. Yeah. We know Stratus Pron. like Rockstar.

between his legs. He He is He is a. beast. Thank you to him for uh thank you. for him for committing so many dangerous. acts for our entertainment. It was. literally my generation. That is what it. It is. I've seen this guy do every How. about him just jump it over to NASCAR, too. I think he just ran over there. Yeah. You know, sometimes 10 years. training usually 15 years training kids. They've been doing this since I was a. kid. I picked this up about a month ago. Yeah. I'm going to going to redline this. thing, too. Don't you worry about it.

Well, uh, on the weekend I'm going to go. do a double backflip and then, uh, look. at those flash bulbs. Those were the. days all over the place. And anytime. Pastana was on the top of a ramp, that. was before social media, everybody. somehow knew like, "Hey, Pastana is. about He's doing it again. He's doing it. again. Come on. Shawn White was the same. Shawn White, whenever he. was at the top of the snowboard, Ray was. like, "Hey, Shawn White's about to do. some Tune in. Tune in." Yeah, Pastana is about to do some And. now he's got Prawn Land. Now he's got. Past Strong Land. That's why he's the. goat. here. Tony Hawk, he's still just. handing out skateboards. Do a kick flip.

Handing out skateboards. His documentary. is unbelievable. Yeah. Great story. Yeah. About how much work he put in as a. kid. He was he a little boy. He was the. guy. Yeah. Dog. Yeah. They're talking. about him being the like when he was. six, seven years old. Yeah. And then. like through the video game era and like. how when he was, I don't know, 20 22. skateboarding just fell off a cliff. And. so like him and a couple other guys were. doing it and then the X game started and. they were like the bell of the ball. And. then Tony Hawk, pro skater. I don't know. how much money he made off of that. He. he goes into it about that about how.

like they approach him to make a video. game. He said, "Sure." Basically doesn't. hear anything, but the game starts. blowing up, blah blah blah. Couple years. into the game, he gets like called into. the uh PlayStation's office or whoever, you know, created the video game, and. they just like slid him a check for $10. million. And he was like, "Thank you, buddy." Yeah. What the Holy. Thank you. Yeah. This is a good time. Yeah, good for them. That was a. different era. I think Jeremy Bloom. though has the right idea. We need to. make stars competing against each other,

not just the competitions themselves. Now, for the Olympics, I'll turn on the. free skate, you know, to represent for. America and all that What they're. doing in the street skate or whatever. open. Yeah. Jagger eating dog. Young. Jagger eating. Absolute dog. Like I'll. watch that. But I think for the X Games, it is the Meta Militia people. Remember. Meta Militia? They were taking on There. was another group. Yeah. What was that. other group? The guys were like they. were they were s like you knew. I don't. know. I couldn't I could name 10 20. different like athletes in the X Games.

back in the day when I was watching like. in high school. Yeah. He talked about. Pink's husband, I think. Yeah. Carrie. Hart. Yeah. I I was almost going to. start singing a Pink song about her. boyfriend being a rock star because I. think that is a song, but I think the. next couple lyrics aren't the best. Sure. So, I stayed away from it. Well, every Pink song that I was thinking of, what she was saying was not like the, you know, she's a weapon. Oh, yeah. She, Speaking of X Games, she's. Circus LA. Yeah. Her whole concerts are.

nuts. Hey, where where are you going to. swing at today? How about from that. tip of the stadium to that one? And I'm going to sing the entire time. I'm singing. Yeah, I'm singing the whole. time, too. Upside down. Yeah. And I'm. not going to miss it. It's going to be. It's like Jesus Christ, what a weapon. And then she's got a They got a. daughter, I think, that's a little bit. older and then maybe a baby. I watched. her documentary daughter climbing the. whatever these are for the stage. like just cl ready to go to the sky just. like zero fear out there it's. unbelievable X games I hope it gets back.

yeah this would be sweet this this. weekend already time for it that's. tomorrow okay see everything's kind of. blending together right now everything's. blending together we got America's. birthday coming up one of the greatest. cold shots in history nobody talks about. it true we said Uh-huh. Huh. And then. there was still a lot of Oh, yeah. to. figure out. Yeah. And then like we said, yeah, you know, that's kind of how that. whole thing works. We'll be taking the. second week of July off because of. Wimbledon will be on all things and also. we're going to enjoy summer a little.

bit. Maybe create some things. Maybe. maybe meet some people. Oh yeah. Maybe. do a little up to something. Are things cooking right now? I don't. know. Maybe. Could say. I know this. sounds crazy, uh, but it's been a lot of. chatter. Obviously, me being able to. sleep in my house and not get three. hours of sleep on Monday, uh, nights. over the last couple weeks has been a. huge help. No, I will say. No way. I. will say I will say yes, I miss it a. lot. I do. But on Tuesdays when I have.

uh you know like meetings in the morning. because I do business like I not only. show but I also I try to do the business. as well because I feel like I should. learn and also potentially speak up and. I enjoy it and it's all those things. So, I'm I'm walking into meetings. Tuesday morning uh Zoom calls or. whatever calls in general, 9:00 a.m. You. got people that I'm talking to that are. very um uh good at what they do. And uh. I'm rolling in there 3 hours of sleep, you know, and it's like I'm the energy.

guy normally and it's like at what point. does this do you look in the mirror and. go like, "Yo, you ain't going to make it. like this." And uh shout out to Nick. Khan at the WWE being like, "Bro, you. need to breathe. You need to breathe.". Now, Nick Khan has also seen me in these. meetings. So, I think he understands. that I do uh. I do perform. I do well in these, you. know, and it's nice. It's good for. everybody uh when it happens. So, I'm. very thankful for the opportunity to be.

able to breathe for a little bit, but I. do miss the out of it. And uh night. of champions this weekend, Saudi Arabia. Yeah. A lot. Bill Goldberg doing what? Oh my god. Saturday night main event in. Atlanta. Saturday night main event. champions this weekend. Saturday Night. Main Event Goldberg and doing Thursday. I'm just saying there's been a lot that. has happened since we have you know not. been there. So to everybody at WWE, I. love you people. I appreciate you. people. To the internet wrestling. community, yourselves.

All of you. Go back to my NXT run. Everything I said then still remains. I'm talking to you. These people are. outrageous. They're they're talented and. mean, passionate, and they're in. abundance. Yeah. Golly. I'm like, what. the man? Don't look at your. comments. Well, I have to. Our show is. like I have to live on the internet. Like that is how do I know about. literally I don't say everything, but. too much. I'd say at this point have to. know with Daily Show. Have to know.

everything. Scrolling through. Okay. There was a big trade. Sweet. Uh, good. show today. Sweet. Uh, hope you kill. yourself. Okay. What the did I do? All right, let's. go to this. Oh, Shfter and Rap. Oh, one. has the breaking news, one has the. information. I like the way that's. working. Uh, get the out of the. WWE. You ruined my night. Uh, okay. Let me go down here. College Game. Days won an Emmy. That's pretty cool. Congratulations.

That's pretty cool. Okay. Show's doing. well. Okay. You're the worst. thing to ever happen to the wrestling. Okay. Jeez Louise. Let's go back in there. Bunker buster. What the is that? Are we okay? Okay. Pat McAfee should jump off a Okay. All these people are coming from the. same department here. And it's like that. does get a little bit old. Yeah. Some of. it makes me laugh rather hard though. I.

will say those people are mean. Yeah, those people are mean. Yes, they are. It's been nice to not have that. Sure. Every single weekend. I would. imagine those are multiple things. And. also Corey great. Wade great. Booker T. great. You know, so there's a lot of. dudes over there and women in the. commentary department that are amazing. So it's like as I'm watching it, I like. read some of their stuff. I'm like, "Yeah, Cory is much different than me.". That is And I enjoy the out of. Corey. I I can understand that.

Thank god this piece of isn't here. All right. Just trying to watch the NBA finals. here. It's a lot. I'm lucky and thankful for. all of it. But it is a lot, you know. And then Oh yeah. McKenzie. Mhm. The. greatest. Yeah. Whoa. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, that just happened. Yeah. Got. a tattoo for the daughter. That's her. birthday. May 4, 2023. Taurus, obviously.

I too. Taurus, you know, bull birthday. Taurus birthday McKenzie, you know, little thing. Did I get pressured into. it? Kind of kind of. Is that hurt right. there? That's like upper ribs. First. tattoo feels like it's the right one for. the daughter. And uh Wow. Uh Samantha. got matching tattoo as well, you know, on her. So, it was good. It was really. nice. First tattoo. Obviously, Samantha. has a lot of tats. You know, she's got a.

lot of tattoos. So, I am the soft one of. the household because I've never uh I've. I've signed up to get a tattoo before. I've sat down and then I've been told. how long it was going to be and I. couldn't move and it was going to hurt. And I said, "All right, don't think I. want that on my body anyways. I've gone. up and left three times that has. happened. Three times in my life I've. done that. This one sat down for the. daughter. Yeah, this is what I want on. my body. Go ahead and make it happen.". It's a cool thing. Yes, it did hurt. though. There was moment I no sold it. Had to. No sold it. Y for sure. I was.

around a lot of tattoo, you know, tattoo. people were there and they are obviously. very tough. They are tougher than all of. us that don't have tattoos because they. have to deal with the P- which certainly. real thing, but it hurt like hell. Yeah. Some of the parts hurt like hell, you. know. They got What made you choose that. location? Yeah. I don't know to be honest. I Yeah, it's a very painful spot. You could. definitely chosen other spots that. weren't as painful, I'm sure. Yeah. Yeah. I was told that.

Yeah. And I I thought about that as it. was on my rib, you know. There was like. a six, seven Anita is the lady's name, I. believe. Rose Inc. Tattoo. She was. great. She was incredible talent. She. was really good. She also uh not full. shading, a little bit of color. I don't. know. I don't know. She But there you. could feel whenever she was really. tightening in on something, you know, especially right there on the rib. It. sound like a dentist hitting her tooth. Exactly. That's what it felt like in. your body, you know, and there was. certainly some pain. Wife uh sitting.

there looking at me just seeing and. you're like not this is nothing. What do. you mean? Just do the whole do the whole. rib cage while you're at it. I did a. couple yawns. You know, those were. tired. Are you have to get a retouch? I know a. lot of times they'll fade and you got to. go get it refilled in again like I think. the fade would be a part of the art, you. know. Yeah, I think this one like camo. Okay, I think this one's I think this. one's good. Yeah, I think this one's. good. Everybody says you're going to get. the bug. You guys come up with another Mackenzie. McAfee sweet tattoo. I will I will I.

will certainly dive back in there. And. if I do, that lady who did it, shout out. to Anita. Uh she was great. But yeah, I. mean I had to lay there for 40 minutes, 45 minutes, AirPods in. Mhm. A lot of. this, you know, with the leg. I come out. I. stand for this show. I mean, people that. host talk shows do not stand. They sit. That is literally what they do. I can't. sit. Like, I am a I'll either fall. asleep. Okay, that is a real thing that. could happen. If I sit down too long.

here during the show, I'm sure people. notice it at home. I start to get really. bored and I I really start to zone out. So, if you see me stand up, it's just. like me trying to stay alive. So, when. you're doing a tattoo and it's on your. ribs and I can't move and if I move now, it's going to look Yeah. Absolutely. I. do not know what I do not know what I. signed up for. It went through my head a. couple times. Well, how much longer is. this? Don't want to ask though. Don't. want to look soft. And then you look. over and it's like, well, it doesn't. look like anything. It's been Yeah, I.

could barely see it. It's It was a whole. thing. But for my daughter and I think. it looks cool and Samantha's got the. matching one for you, anything, you. know. Let's go ahead and do that. All. right, let's get the hell out of here. What a day. Day. Holy What a day. Ryan Smith, owner of the Mammoth and the. Jazz. Legend. Legend. Big night last. night. Ace Bailey is going to love Utah. Let's put that to rest. Legit. He is. going to do they are going to do. everything. That whole state will do. everything to make sure Ace has a great.

time out there. That is like how they. feel. I think that's how they operated. That's how they treated us. I would. assume they would do somebody that could. actually help. Yeah. You know, in the. entire thing. Sean Sharia, no tipping. the picks, being a good teammate. Good. play. What a guy. You agree? Up there. tonight, too. He's going to be big time. part of it tonight, too. Right. Was his. mic off for Yeah. Like the whole show, I. think. No, I heard him. Uh, I missed it. Yeah, I muted it early though. That's. probably why. Cuz you were reading the. internet. Yeah. Jay Bis, good to have.

him on. Yeah, he's great. Yeah, great. answers. He's very knowledgeable. He is. It's not lotion, it's beer. And he's a. lawyer, too. Do you think he pours the. beer? Yeah. And then rubs in. Leave it. out. Dunks his fa He dunks his face in. I think he pours it into a Oh, like. Ashton Hall. Yeah. With the cubes. 4:30. a.m. Mhm. So, he's been losing races. A. lot of them, right? That kind of been. happening to him. I saw one. Speed's. very fast. His name is Speed. I I don't. think people should be signing up to. race speed. Just.

Who do you want to get in a race with? a. guy that named anything or a guy named. Speed when your entire thing Yeah. is. running but your name isn't Speed. I. don't think we're doing that. And you're. going on his it's his people. Yeah. And. it's a lot of people like the most. amount of people. Why are they always. racing on uneven ground somewhere too? Like cuz you just go outside. Yeah. walk outside. Catch me outside. How about that? On site. That's what. they say. He's so explosive. His back. flips out of nowhere. You just watch the. explosion. Like holy What an.

athlete. I I wonder what sports he. played before he just said, "I'm gonna. make hundreds of millions of dollars. being a streamer of my everyday life.". Legit. Yeah. And I'm gonna become the. mayor of a uh or the president of a. country. I don't remember what it was. when the entire country showed up for. him. I wonder what sports he did play. Big soccer guy, right? Hope he ran. I. I've seen clips of him playing soccer. I. don't I think he likes soccer. I don't. think it's necessarily like his main. sport. Track would make sense. A track. guy. Is he America? Speed. Yeah. Yeah.

He got speared out of his face. I don't. know. He loves soccer and he's always in. Europe, so I didn't know. Well, he loves. speed. Yeah. No. Sure. Have a little. respect, please. The only person who. loves soccer here is Canadian, so I. didn't know. We all love soccer in our own. No, no, no, no. I do not like soccer. I like soccer. I. like the video game. I like TST. I like. TST. There we go. Yeah, I like t. So, you do love soccer. Hey, think uh. breaking news by the way. Look for it.

It just came up in discussion earlier. today. I'm going to say it publicly, so. we have to do it. Look for Thunderdome. Soccer Super Duper Cup coming. Yep. At. some point. Threeon three. We're going. to build boards in here. So, there's a. little bit of physicality. Three on. three with a goalie, two nets. We'll. commentate it. We'll get some of the. Arena League boys in here. We'll put up. a $10,000 per winning player prize or. something. And we're going to have that. happen out here. We need to see the. Arena Boys again. I only saw him for two. days because I got invited to go down to. Paris Island, which what an experience.

What an amazing experience. That was. really cool. He said his dad was a. Marine. I was immediately. I don't know if you saw I immediately. broke chains. Oh yeah. Right there. Let's go ahead and do that. Love. everything about it. Didn't even want to. get into it. You go through Paris. Island. Had to have right on the East. Coast there. Yeah. That place was a That. was a lifecher. But I only got to see. the arena boys for two days. You see. Gordo Gordon throw out a first pitch for. the Yankees in a conc jersey. I saw that. wasn't the Yankees. Yes, it was the Oh,

in the same day. Yeah, he was. He lefty. and righty. Be a friend. Tell a friend. something nice. If I change your life, we're in this thing together. Team on. me. Team on three. 1 2 3. Goodbye.