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Raiders Chargers Giants Titans rookies. all entering an NFL building facility. ability today on their journey to end up. at the Lombardi Mountaintop. Will the. Browns win a Super Bowl this year? We'll. see. >> Maybe. >> Could Nope. >> Who's a quarterback? Well, there's four. quarterbacks allegedly in rotation. And. I saw Sheffy this morning. >> Oh, yeah. >> I mean, I saw Sheffy. I mean, he's. resting it on his shoulders there early. So, you think to yourself, "Oh, this. guy's never done this workout before. You're not supposed to do that at all.". And then you think to yourself, "Well, actually, those are two 30 pounders that. I've been told have been brought in from.

New Jersey by one of the producers on. the train." He started pumping those. out. Chef is almost 60 years old. >> Chefy eats weights for a living. >> Actually, every time we FaceTime him, he's sweating. He's shirtless. He just. got done with a workout. This moment was. built for him. And I'll tell you what, this little fella delivered. >> Oh, yeah. >> This little guy, this guy stood up and. delivered in there. We're proud of him. But going back, they were talking about. the Browns quarterbacks there. We talked. about ESPN Cleveland's social media. account probably being the best ESPN. city account that we have seen. Is that. because Shadore's there and everything.

that they post is good because Shador's. on it? Probably. But see, also. intriguing quarterback competition, especially with the boys coming together. in Cleveland. Congrats to rookies uh. reporting to their first NFL training. camp over there. Los Angeles Chargers. Are they going to win uh Super Bowl this. year? Could be the year. They got Super. Whiz Kid Genius over there, offensive. coordinator out of Miami, McDaniels. Him. and Herbert alongside Jim Harbaugh's. leadership. We are definitely in for. some hilarious qu uh clips and quotes. >> Yep. Mhm. Are we in for a Super Bowl run. from them? That's all they're going to. be judged off of. That's all Justin.

Herbert's going to be judged off of. Justin Herbert actually gets talked. about more because of his private life. now than he does as a football player. Whenever people talk about AFC teams, AFC quarterbacks are potentially going. to go on to win the MVP, win the Super. Bowl, nobody really mentions Justin. Herbert. But this guy's a golden goose. If you listen to Jim Harbaugh, Jim. Harbaugh could have gone to a couple. different places in the NFL. Chose the. Chargers because Justin Herbert's there. Now you get McDaniel as this innovator. and he said he's got something new. the late motions and shifts that he did. down in Miami with Tyreek and uh Achan. and the fastest humans on earth.

seemingly W and all them at time. everybody kind of caught up to everybody. started doing it. So we asked him, "What. do you got next?" He said, "There's a. little new wrinkle maybe here." Yeah. He. said, "You got to stay ahead of him. You. know, you got to kind of move." I'll be. excited to see what that is because with. Herbert, he can do anything. >> Herbert can run. He can run through you. He can run around you. He can throw it. He can punt it. He can kick it. He can. literally do it all. What will McDaniels. do with this particular offense? cannot. wait to watch that as their rookies. report to training camp. The Raiders, they're a brand new team. >> Oh, yeah. >> Brand new football team. >> Fernando Mendoza, uh, number one overall.

pick. We all assume Kurt Cousins will be. the starting quarterback for them. We. all assume that Fernando would then take. over at some point. Then we're seeing. Eclipse. Then we're hearing what Tom. Brady saying to Fernando. Then we're. listening to Fernando talk. That's a. real quarterback competition happening. out there. It's like, why not drop his. ass in? Yeah. I think he's ready for it. He's tough enough for it. He uh he's. gotten hit. He's been able to survive. I. think the thing is if he gets in there. and it all becomes too much, is he going. to die? It's like I think the more that. he kind of gets a part of the more he. learns. This guy is a computer. I think. people forget everybody uh you know. remember this guy won a Heisman won a.

national championship. Uh but is he. ready for the big stage game? >> What big games did he win? Somebody. asked. >> Yeah, he won a national championship. He. won a national champion. And by the way, the reason and how they not let alone. that throw in operation right there. Great catch by Omar Cooper Jr. who's. going to be a great pro and everything. like that. But Fernando won that. national championship taking it by. himself, getting hit 14 times and then. his grit and will putting him into the. end zone. And in the Big 10 championship. game, we watched him first play of the. game get every rib dislodged. He goes to.

the sideline and he comes on our show. afterwards. He said, "I got cracked, no. pause, like real deal." And then I had. to shake myself off and go back out. there. He's tough. He's smart. He can. spin it. The ball looks small in his. hands. We just saw a clip a picture from. his uh practice the other day. Wasn't. even holding the laces. Okay. So, we. wondered if he was going to be able to. throw an NFL bolt. Yeah, I'm thinking. he's pretty comfortable. We are very. firm believers in this guy. Very, very. firm believers in this. You drop him in. the deep end early, I think he's only. going to get better, but I'll be excited.

to see what they end up doing over. there. Good luck to their Las Vegas. Raiders. Brand new team. Five and a half. win total. >> Very bullish. Very bullish. >> I very I like the Raiders a lot. Uh the. Giants obviously uh they're reporting. their rookies are reporting today and uh. we've heard some speeches coming out of. there. Let's go to the toxic table at. boss of Connor at Tai Schmidt. One half. of the hammer cowboys AP Tone is here. Con man John Harbaugh addressing the New. York Giants for the first time has. certainly gone um viral I would say. Now.

it is the New York football Giants a lot. of fans so it's going to get a lot of. views no matter what you put on the. internet. If you're running that social. media account you have a lot of power. Ton. >> a ton of power. >> Got a lot of numbers though. Run it. >> Welcome, man. Good to see everybody. here. You excited? >> Yes, sir. >> Little nervous. >> Nervous, >> huh? Little nervous. >> A little nervous, man. [clears throat]. >> Nervous. Excited. Nervous. You know, nervous like you're full of dam almost, man. Give this thing kickoff.

I'm standing up here in front of the New. York Giants. The New York Giants. IT'S THE NEW YORK GIANTS SITTING in this. room. The New York Giants. Wow. It's an honor. It's an honor to. stand in front of this room right now. And I know this coaches back here feel. the same way, right, coaches? Certainly. >> It's an honor, man. We've been working, haven't we? We've been working early. We. were late. Getting ready for today.

Today. sitting in this chair in this. seat getting to work. >> getting started our beginning because. this is where it all begins. >> together. Mr. Sidewalk walked down your. go. >> I'll take you I'll take you there. Whatever. Captain Italian knots. You. know that [laughter] it did kind of. sound like that at the end. But remember. that speech was not 59 seconds long. >> No, >> that speech was chopped and screwed by a. social media team that wanted to put.

that out there. Now, I believe what John. Harbaugh wanted to tell his team is, "Hey, this is the New York Giants.". >> Yeah, I I gathered that as well. >> I I think what he wanted to say was this. isn't some random, this is the New York. Giants. And I do appreciate that. That. was his stance because whenever he got. hired, we talked to him, he was so. pumped. Me and my family, the way we. view the New York Giants, you go all the. way back to LT, the history of what the. New York Giants are, Barcels, Tuna, you. name it. Belich check starting there. like the New York Giants history is what.

draws a hardball football family to the. Giants. So I think he was just trying to. let the players know like hey this. matters that you're doing it. I would. need to hear full. >> sure. >> cuz I can't just he there's no way he. was just looking and yelling at people. saying the New York Giants and then. there's no way he took a half a step. this way and somehow the New York. there's no way that that's what the. speech was. I'd like to see what was. kind of chopped and screwed in there. But on that note, Harbaugh loves that. he's the head coach of.

>> the NEW YORK GIANTS. IT MATTERS, TODD. >> It does. And you were talking about it. and obviously we didn't get to see the. the part that came right after that. where every guy in the room stood up one. basically one at a time said, "I'm a New. York Giant.". >> All right. >> I'm a New York Giant. >> We don't know if they edited that out. We honestly don't know what was left on. social media managers cutting room. >> It was like miracle. >> It was like miracle when Herb Brooks. goes around and asks them who are Yeah. Exactly. Who you play for? >> Team USA. >> Yeah. But and they knew right away we're. New York Giants. You're a New York. Giant. You're a New York Giant. You're a.

New York Giant. I think that is what. happened. But I mean it's just you know. what are you going to anyone who takes. something different from that and like. oh Harbaugh might be long in the tooth. now. He doesn't know what he's doing. Like this guy's done this so many times. So uh while yeah it it's maybe not the. greatest clip of all time. Maybe if. you're a Giants fan you're expecting a. little more rahrh maybe a little more. substance. You know don't worry. I I. think this. >> they cut the substance out clearly. I. don't know. 99 seconds. >> I don't know. I think there's a chance. that he that that was item number one.

Remind this team they are the New York. Giants and then let's get out of there. >> I also think he was just trying to. remind himself. You know, he's been. Baltimore for so long. He's looking. around. >> Baltimore Raven. Like he probably he. might have said that to his wife before. leaving like, "Hey, got to go to Ravens. camp. Here we go." And she might have. told him, "Hey, this is the New York. Giants. Okay, this is the New York. Giants." And then he had to remind. himself standing up there like, "Oh. yeah, this is the New York Giants." So. [laughter] that that whole entire intro. is funny, but I I'll tell you what, I. might be bullish on the Giants as well.

after that. I'm dead serious. >> Well, it's not just Harbaugh that spoke. from the Giants. We got a lot of clips. coming out of the Giants, bro. You were. particularly fascinated by former failed. head coach, but certainly Super Bowl. champion with the Chiefs. Naggie kind of. put you. >> I'm telling you, I don't know what it is. about Matt Naggie. Maybe it's cuz it's. the entire thing like after the Chiefs. won the Super Bowl, one of those moments. everyone kind of criticized was like, "Why is the offense all running to Matt. Naggie and not going to Eric Benemy. who's the OC, but this is what Naggie. said or Naggie said, >> whatever the hell is Nag to start it.

off, >> man? Detail. If there's one thing about. me that I'm I'm psychotic about, it's. details. I'm psychotic." So, if you're a. wide receiver and you're a tight end, running back, whoever you are, court, but we get the splits, we get the. motions, shifts, etc., splits matter. That's that's just one example. Cadences. matter, right guys? That matters. So, we. [snorts] got to be detailed all the. time. We got to understand what that's. about cuz sloppy teams that aren't. detailed, they lose. We're not going to.

lose. We're going to dominate cuz we're. smart, we're physical, we're tough, all. that other stuff. But we're going to be. detailed. That starts in here. act your detail. You take you can write. your notes all you want. We all learn. differently. >> You can learn by writing notes. >> I had somebody that if they wrote notes. their ears shut, right? You write notes, ears shut. Well, they weren't learn. well. So, we all learn differently. We. watch video. I'm a visualizer. I like to. see things, right? But then let's take. it to the field and be detailed and then. if you make a mistake, that's okay,

right? Then we go ahead and we fix it. We just don't make the same mistake. twice. >> That's what you were talking about with. that action. I knew there was one coming. at the end that was just obnoxious. there. And uh I do appreciate that we're. getting a chance to see him because from. what we've learned about the Giants. social media team, they would have. wanted to cut that up. >> to kind of just put maybe him saying. detail. >> details, >> physical. >> details, all that other stuff. So, I. appreciate we got to see him. All this. behind the scenes stuff that we're. getting to watch is going to have to. kind of scratch us where we at here. >> Oh, yeah. >> And I think people are watching saying, "Who cares about any of this?" And I.

agree. uh because inevitably the first. speech given normally not going to carry. through uh into week six, seven, eight. of a football season, but we're. certainly setting a tone on what. everything's expected. And I love that. he said, "Hey, just so we can meet each. other here, I'm a psycho about these. things." So if you'd like to see me lose. my mind and if you'd like to lose your. job, these are things that matter. Good. precedent setting speech. I think at an. who gets to play a different position. than the head coach, right? Everybody. has a different opportunity whenever. they're speaking to their group. Everybody is afforded different.

responsibilities. Coordinators have a. lot better life than a head coach. Everybody talks about that. We'll talk. about that in college actually here in a. little bit with the new head coach down. there at Old Miss who might be our new. favorite guy. >> in front of a microphone whenever he's. speaking out of SEC media days. But. coordinator life, head coach life vastly. different, especially for the Giants. I. like the negies like this is all I care. about. This is all I worry about. He's. getting opportunity to do it cuz. remember he was getting up for a head. coach somewhere. Oh yeah. Chiefs kind of. just let him out of the building. Uh. we're not going to be able to pay you. whatever the head coaching job that you. get gets paid. See you. >> The enem is coming back.

>> Mhm. >> Now you done get a head coaching job. Go. back to the Chiefs. Nah, we already. Sorry. And then Hard's like, "Please. God, you want to be a New York Giant?". And Nai was like, "Absolutely." And when. I think of the New York Giants, I think. about details. And then Tennessee Titans. reporter camp. Congratulations, Tennessee Titans rookies. >> It's a good football team. >> It's a good football team. Good down. there. I don't know how I feel about the. entire organization, but I do like what. they got going with the football team. You know, I like Salah. I like Dable.

>> I love Borans out of uh Boston. Uh great. great general manager with maybe the. best accent out of all general managers. in the entire NFL. I love Cam Ward. I'm. a big fan of Cam Ward. I think he's a. phenomenal talent. Can he become an NFL. quarterback? I think Daveball would be a. guy that could figure it out. So, they. are now all into camp. the rookies are. there. That means vets are coming soon. That means football right around the. corner. Good luck to all the lads there. Uh Shawn McVey uh was having a.

conversation about Aaron Donald. And I. think the thing about Shawn McVey that's. so interesting to me is he's obviously a. wizard, okay, with the whole X's O's. We're doing this for taking advantage of. every single uh blade of grass and. everything like that. Phenomenal leader. and I think that shines through here. >> Have you crossed paths with with Aaron. Donald? Um, are you allowing yourself to. contemplate if if he is of mind, body, and soul that he wants to reinvest. himself in this? >> I have crossass with Aaron Donald and. uh, you know what's special is we have a.

we have a really special relationship. and it's way bigger than football. Um, I've heard him say it before and it. means the world to me and I feel the. same. It's family with us. Um, he's done. so much for me. I love I love the man he. is. I love the husband, the father, the. son. You know, he he represents a lot of. the things that are right. And what he's. going to do is he is he is thinking. about this. He's going to go through his. process. And the one thing about Aaron. Donald is is what he does, he does it. full speed ahead. >> It feels like uh Jason Luck on there on. the Big Play Sports Network with the. interview with Shawn McVey, head coach.

of the Los Angeles Rams, Super Bowl. champion. I think he's like 27 years old. now at this point. He's been a head. coach forever. You heard him immediately. compliment family. This this this my. relationship with them. It's like I know. they were all trying to find the next. McVey whenever McVey had success with. the Rams. We need the next McVey. We. need the next McVey. Those two traits of. being a wizard super genius, but also. being a phenomenal human leader as well, just not traits that are supposed to. really be together. You know, you're. supposed to have one or the other, especially in this football world. McVey.

is the perfect head coach. And I love. the fact that he has been able to find. his calling. He has been tempted to go. away from this many, many times. It. feels like he's right where he's. supposed to be. And the Rams got a great. one. What a perfect head coach for Los. Angeles now into the future. And if he. gets Aaron Donald back and they're just. the Avengers out there, wild, wild scene. for the entire NFL. >> Yeah. And it feels like after watching. that, he definitely is cuz he was. screaming so loud that the mic kept. breaking up and the static kept coming. So it kind of feels as though the veins. in his neck were popping out. It feels.

like he knows like this guy's coming. back. I'm so juiced up. I just can't put. the cart before the horse and ruin the. entire announcement. But even Puka, like. they're about to pay Puka as well. He's. probably going to get, you know, top. tier money. Like the way less needed. operates with the entire team's. incredible. Like you talk about uh what. is it? Sympatico between coach and GM. Like they're all in with like we don't. need all these picks. Let's just get the. best players possible and win Super. Bowl. >> Speaking of best players possible on. that defensive side, they also trade for. McDuffy corner. Pay him the most in the.

history of corners in the history of the. NFL. He's allp pro talent. He got added. to the Rams as well. Nobody's even. talking about it because oh yeah, Miles. Garrett was added to the Los Angeles. Rams and oh yeah, Aaron Donald. >> might come out of retirement because he. sees what's going on. Well, if they. double Miles and double Aaron check 99, check 97 95 or whatever. I mean, there's. a chance that happens. Yeah. >> Okay. >> Good news. Most sacks double team since. 2017. I have both stat here. >> There you go. >> Oh, that's crazy. >> Other one, two.

>> Yeah. So, it doesn't really matter. So, you're going to take up four guys on two. dudes. They're probably still going to. make a play and then who's blocking all. the other guys that you're gonna have. I. genuinely. >> Good luck. >> I don't know how this works. You just. got to play. You got to pray that one of. them just can't play. Like you got to. hope like and that is the worry with. Aaron Donald two years out. Super. explosive hand-to-hand combat. A lot of. grit, a lot of strain. How's it going to. go? Aaron Donald's going to want to. dominate everybody so he's going to go. full. Will something like maybe will he. tweak something and maybe will there be.

a couple weeks off where you only have. to deal with Miles Garrett and the rest. of the defense which is Dline. >> very good let alone adding potentially. greatest football player of all time. back in there but that's the only hope I. think to stop this because this is like. a team that has u a three-point shooting. thing if they get cold you're done but. if they have three guys that are all. game wreckers and one of them has a bad. game which might I mean one guy might. have a bad game might not be up to it. well you still got two others you got. three others. They got they got so many. options if somebody has a bad game. I.

don't know how they're able to do this. in the salary cap era. And that's why I. think a lot of people are going to say. uh when Lesnie said uh frick them picks, what they were saying was freick you. buddy cuz why isn't our team do why. isn't my team doing this? Matthew. Stafford was looking at Hazes in. Indianapolis whenever he was potentially. leaving Detroit. But it's hard not to. think like that whenever you see teams. make these types of plays and have these. types of situations. It's like why. couldn't that be us? And it's like, well, the Chiefs had it for a long time. The Patriots had it for a long time. It's like the Rams now. Los Angeles.

always been a destination city. I don't. uh now it does feel like we are a bit. more in tuned with uh things happening. in the world. >> Little bit. >> a little bit more. LA still very. desirable place to be. I don't know how. they're able to get around all the taxes. stuff that people can hold against them, especially with free agents. But people. are going to want to play for the Rams. People are going to want to play for. McVey. And for the rest of us, we just. have to deal with it. I think I think. that's what it's going to have to be. here for the foreseeable future. >> Well, and like you said, like that's. just the defense. Like that what there. is a a good chance like what if they.

don't play good defensively one game. Like that's not saying that their. offense won't go out and score 49. points. Like they have the reigning MVP. on offense, too. They have all the this. an embarrassment of riches at receiver. and tight end and their running back's. no slouch. Like it really does. And. again, it's early and we kind I don't I. don't want to say we do this every year. because very rarely does a team look. this good on paper, but it does kind of. come down like right now it's it's hey, unless barring some like injuries that. kind of derail everything. It does seem.

like like who's going to beat these. guys? >> I don't I genuinely don't know. >> Seahawks, they did it twice. >> That was a Garrett wasn't on team. Duffy. wasn't on that team as well. But on that. note, they lose um uh uh who who' Rams. lose. >> first. Yeah. Well, >> and. forget it. >> Well, yeah. Okay. So, the uh the Seattle. Seahawks obviously can beat anybody with. the defense that they have. I agree with. that. And with Sam Darnold playing away, and we talked to Dodo, founder Cooper.

Copio yesterday, he's he's a stud. I. agree that that NFC West is absolutely. stacked. But it's hard on a daily sports. program not to get super excited and be. like, "This team's going to win every. game by 30." And then McDonald's like. there's only one football out there, dude. What are [laughter] we What are we. even talking about here? We can really. make some [ __ ] happen. That's why the. NFL is so fantastic. Tone digs. >> Yeah. I mean, trust me, they are they're. huge favorites. Like I can't remember. They're they're almost 500 point. favorites. They're plus 550. The next. closest is uh a thousand, which is the. Bills uh in the AFC. Like that is that's.

a huge discrepancy as far as when you go. into the season. And it might not seem. at like it if you don't pay attention to. it and don't look at it every single. year, but like that's that's a huge. Super Bowl favorite uh going into the. season. Like that's like a a Chiefs. dynasty favorite. That's a Patriots. dynasty number like in that situation. Uh but no, I mean they right now. obviously on paper are absolutely. loaded. But then like when you look at. that division, the Seahawks and the. Niners, like they could get him all the. time. They have to also play the AFC. West with the Chiefs and the Broncos and. the Chargers uh and the Raiders. Like.

that's anything could happen. It's going. to be an unbelievable season. But yeah, I mean they're the they're the very very. very heavy favorites for a reason. >> You just mentioned the Chiefs. Shout out. to them. They moved from Missouri to. Kansas. Okay, that's a big time move. Nobody's talking about it cuz Kansas. City is in both places. You don't have. to change the name, which is great. Uh. new stadium coming. $3 billion beautiful. dome out there. >> Yeah. >> Still going to be able to see the sky. >> Mhm. >> Still going to see the sky. >> Still going to be able to see the rain. Sure. Still going to be able to see the. snow, >> but you're going to be able to enjoy a. little bit. It's going to be 70°. What. are you so bad about?

>> I don't know. It's just so. >> Arrowhead. You like the thought of. Arrowhead? >> I love Airhead. I think the outdoor. stadium is becoming a relic of the past. and I don't love that, you know. I think. all three of us up here, yourself. included, kind of gets like how cool the. allure of it is, you know, and the Bills. just kind of built the new futuristic. stadium while still remaining outside. and how awesome that. I assume there's a. lot of Chiefs fans who missed that. homefield advantage. I mean, when they. played the Dolphins two years ago in the. first round of the playoffs, it was, you. know, 0 degrees and before the game even.

started, we knew they won the game. already because that is such a massive. >> Yeah. So, maybe the NFL shouldn't have. that, you know, I don't think the. weather should just be deciding games. Hi, my name is Bubba Gumpino. I'm a. Miami Dolphins fan. That was his. thought. I do not agree with that. necessary sentiment. I, as punter, uh, in NFL certainly wanted everything. domed, would like everything 75 degrees, but you're also getting no wind at your. back in that time either. So, you know, obviously there's uh situations of that. taking place, but when you're watching a. game, need to I mean, that snow game in. Cleveland, what was it like last year or.

two years ago? >> Jameus Winston because the Steelers. >> I mean Buffalo has that uh absolute. blizzard. They say, "Hey, come shovel. your own way into this thing and then we. watch it. It's like those are a part of. football. Always have been a part of. football." And I think the Chiefs fan. base has been through some We were. there. >> I played there on a frozen field. >> Yeah, you did. >> In Kansas City, negative something. I. forget what it was. frozen but bust my. ass walking out there. I go out there to. do uh warm-ups. Frog, shout out. Greatest equipment staff uh in all of.

sports. Frog T, Smack, John, boys, team. Pars, Andrew, was a long time ago. I haven't played. for a while. Just trying to go through. the entire room there. Make sure I don't. leave anybody out. Somebody's going to. be pissed. >> You said boys, >> lads. I I appreciate you all there, Bess. But, uh, Froggy comes up to me. He. goes, "Feel, it's frozen, guy. What? you. need to wear a flat shoe under like a. turf shoe. I'm like, I don't need to do. that. I I tell him like, come on. I'm. from Pittsburgh. I know where Frozen is. I can kind of handle it. I walk out. there, first punt, back of the end zone,

get a snap. There's I don't know, probably a thousand Chiefs fans that are. in the building that early, like. literally right behind us, and I take. two steps and as soon as I go, I just. flat bump. I mean, wham, head down so. hard. Foot just slipped out from. underneath me. Obviously, a huge. entire thing. Couple of the lads were. already out there. Obviously, I was. getting mocked and ridiculed and then I. got a turf shoe thrown at me by a frog. Put it on. >> Told you, >> kid. It was great. It ended up. benefiting us uh because we got ahead.

early and then we just want to get the. hell out of there and hang on. But that. was a real that was a real place for a. real Lambo, Buffalo, Foxboro, Pittsburgh, Cleveland, >> Arrowhead. I mean I mean. >> Chicago, Baltimore, >> all these places were the places that. provided. >> Yeah. these magical moments through the. history of sport with the weather and it. feels like Kansas City, Kansas is saying. we're actually going to provide a. perfect setup now shadows. and everything cuz they put a glass.

ceiling on top of that. I I'll be. intrigued to see how that all works out. >> I do like how the design at least of. like the end zone there looks the same. Like you know how they have that dip on. both end zone sides of their stadium. Like I think that is cool but still it's. just different now. Well, and Taylor can. sell this out five times in the. offseason. Sure. Everybody. [clears throat] can go have a good time. at a Taylor Swift concert, which I've. been to before. I would recommend. Ladies and gentlemen, joining us now is. an absolute stud. Played six years in. the NFL. I I believe he's won uh uh uh.

Oscar, an Emmy. Yeah, I think he's in a. video game world. I. >> the EGOT. >> The I think he's on his way for it. Especially if you add the video game one. into it, which is what what's that? The. uh VR. >> the jerky. the the uh. >> oh the E3 awards. >> Yeah, what the E3 awards. Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, absolute. sensation, big brain, wide receiver of. the NFL, formerly of the Bengals and the. Browns, also CFL Montreal Aloette. >> Oh, I didn't know. >> Bonjour Sava Andrew Hake.

[applause]. >> What's up, fellas? What's up? What's up? What's up? >> Hey, how are you, Hawk? Thank you for. joining us. What awards did I get wrong. there? You got an Oscar, you got an. Emmy, you got a What's the video game. one? >> Uh, I don't really have a video game one. yet. E3 is the video game one, though. We We haven't gotten that yet. But that. was. >> that was deep cut. Proud of you guys for. that one. [laughter]. >> Hey, >> that was dope. >> We have to have all these types of uh. buckets of information, you know, because we got to earn our keep around. here. We understand that. So, we try to.

represent for uh everything and. everybody. Hawk, thank you for joining. us. We got rookies reporting. Five more. teams, rookies, uh, are reporting for. training camp. Obviously, Panthers and. Cardinals already there for the Hall of. Fame game. Your thoughts here as another. season rolls around the corner. What do. we need to look at here from the early. days in your eyes, Hawk? >> Yeah, I mean, you know, it's a training. camp. They're all the same. Nobody's. super excited to go and just be away. from their family all that time, but I. think you guys already talked about it, but I'm seeing if AD is coming back to. the Rams. Like, that's, you know, news.

broke here that it was even a thing. Like, bro, I don't think people realize. how dominative he is. If he comes back. and he plays even close to the level he. was before he left, he has a legit. argument that he is the best football. player ever. And I and I mean that. sincerely cuz I think AD is he's. something special, man. And he always. has been. Literally from day one, he's. been dominant. Like O lineman losing. sleep for weeks knowing that they had. him on the schedule. I his brother. played with me at Toledo. And I don't.

know if you guys notice, I'm a Johntown. native. I you got to put that in the. Bible. Western PA. Okay. >> I'm from Johntown. So. >> Archie played with me at Toledo. >> AD is like 14, 15 years old. When we. were in Cleveland, our our our starting. guard was John Greo who also played with. us at Toledo. And we're like in pregame. in the locker room and he's that dead. quiet. I'm like, "Greck, you good, man?". He was like, "Bro, if I would have known. that 14-year-old was going to grow up to. be Aaron Donald, I might have killed him. when he was when he was a teenager.

[laughter]. And I'm like, Valid, I I get it, man. Cuz he's going to terrorize you today. And he did. He definitely did. Shout out. to Greg. Shout out to AD. >> Yeah, we had AQ Shipley. He went on to. be a center for the Arizona Cardinals. So, he had him uh. >> he had him twice a year, you know. And. AQ just talked about like, yeah, right, man. Like, what do we cuz he's inside, you know? Everybody that's been as. explosive and as fast and as strong as. he's been has been on the outside. So, the tackles got to deal with it. Remember, the tackles also avatars in. their own world. These are a different.

species of animals that are out on. tackle, okay? They're big, strong, tall, can set their pace. That's why the. Goliath battling with them out on the. edge is such a big deal. And then Aaron. comes down on the inside. He's doing. outside moves on these inside guys, and. he's also eating both double teams like. a tackle would in the inside. It was. like just a spectacle of an individual. And I think you, me, I think anybody. that was kind of in the league whenever. he was playing and heard the way people. talked about him in the league, I think. we're all feeling the same way about. him. and Miles Garrett being on the same.

[ __ ] defensive line. I I mean, I. don't I just Hawk, I genuinely don't. understand. They're plus 550. The next. closest odds to win a Super Bowl plus a. thousand. That is outrageous in a 32. team league. Hawk, it's like everybody's. seeing the same thing we're seeing. And. I think Aaron's seeing it too though, Hawk. I think Aaron Donald sees it too. >> as he should. I mean, here's the thing. He retired, right? And again, everyone. kind of gets their feel and make their. decision when they make their decision. But for him, his whole career, he's. double triple team. Like, you know, everyone has these conversations all the.

time about AD, but now you're on a D. line with Miles Garrett, even if he is a. lesser version of himself. Let's say he. comes back 65%. I would argue he's still. probably the best defensive tackle in. the league because besides all of the. speed, the quickness, the physical tools. you talked about, like people don't know. how tough the dude is and how tough his. family is. His brother was the toughest. guy I've ever played with. And I played. eight, nine years of professional. football. And AD might be even tougher. than him. His parents are like that. His.

sisters are like they're just a tough. family. They get it out the mud. And. when you play football, I don't care how. good you are. The tougher you are, it. makes you better. And that's why AD is. kind of like tailorade for the game of. football. >> Yeah. Pen Hills, we all understand what. that means. If we're from Western. Pennsylvania, I mean that Yeah, we we. understand what that means. A lot of. respect for Pen Hills, obviously. Uh we. understand his family, his story. There. was actually a special where he told his. dad he was retired and I actually like. kind of cried a little bit just thinking.

about what his dad poured into him and. they had this shitty ass weights in the. basement of the house that they got. after in Penn Hills. It was like I've. been probably in 10 of those basements. before in my life in Penn Hills. But. also like the way he's taking care of. everybody. I love Aaron Donald story. I. love Aaron Donald the way he plays. football. I also like hearing the. stories of people saying like interior. defensive lineman. This guy's calling. out motions and shifts. He's calling. like where the play is going. His. football IQ from where he is is just. outrageous. And then the thought of the. thought of him and Miles Garrett.

standing up. >> just in the middle like this and and the. offensive line just being like uh. so. what are we uh I [laughter] think we. what do we do here? You know what the. [ __ ] we do? It's fun to think about but. I think it's going to be reality. If you. listen to way McVey speaks and way. everybody else is kind of talking. feels. like this is going to happen and we just. need to be prepared for that. Very. similar, you know, what's going on with. LeBron right now. Okay, it's like Aaron. Don's putting together a super team. He's retirement. He's one of the. greatest players of all time and then. LeBron's got a chance to put together a.

super team, you know, and kind of a. greatest player of all time. I'm happy. that we're doing it. We need some. [ __ ] answers, boys. Come on. >> We need some answers. We need it ASAP. Okay, let's talk about some other. players. Obviously, we got questions. heading into the NFL season. Go ahead, Ty. Yeah, Hawk, I don't know if you saw. uh Tyreek Hill put out a video that. basically said like, "Hey, I still I. have no power in my leg that I got. hurt." Uh very gruesome injury. Do you. think that we're going to I mean, it. just looks weird, you know, seeing him. like this. We're obviously not used to. it. I think we thought it was going to. take him a while to kind of get back to.

full strength this year. Do you think. we'll see Tyreek Hill uh the same guy he. was before he got hurt, or is he going. to have to kind of reinvent himself and. become a different version of himself? It's hard, man, because look, it's, you. know, Tyreek is maybe an inch or inch. and a half taller than me. And when I. was in the league, the moment my. quickness and speed was equal to. everybody else, I was cooked. It was a. It was a wrap. That was the advantage. that I had. Now, look, I don't know if,

you know, because again, this is this is. 2026. We're in the age of content. You. got you boys know that better than. everyone else. I don't know if he is. truly has no power or this is a setup. for a documentary and he's a lot further. along than what he's insinuating. But I. will say this, as somebody his size in. the NFL, if he doesn't have his speed. and quickness very close to what it was, it will be impossible to see the same. Tyreek Hill. There's not another version. of a 58 receiver that could be.

successful at that level. >> Yeah. I mean, he used to be able to get. out of a phone booth actually, you know, in flag football in the NFL would not. have been touched. Two-hand touch. football in the NFL many times. Tyreek. would not have been touched with four. people within three yards of him. I I. mean, it was I put him as the number one. punt returner in the history of the NFL. yesterday. Well, Devin Hester's in his. own lane, first of all. Devin Hester's. in his own world. So, we said that like. 15 times. It gets tweeted out and ripped. that we didn't have them in. It's like, >> all right, and we need more fuel for.

people to bury us as if, [laughter] you. know, at right now is the right time for. all of that. But it's like Devin Hester. was in his own world. Obviously, he's. not even doesn't even deserve to be on. the list because he's [ __ ] Devin. Hester. He changed the entire thing. But. Tyreek Hill, this guy, greatest returner. I've ever seen live in person. I watch. it and it's because of how explosive how. quick he is. Just like we said about. Aaron Donald though, uh 80% Aaron Donald. still like a 91 on Madden, right? Like. still like a 92 on Madden. Uh 80% Tyreek. kill speed is still like a 93 you know.

like there there is still a different. now granted the 5'8 thing Hawk that is. because if he can grab him. tough man. >> yeah if he can grab you little guys get. kind of snatched up not that I wouldn't. I would get snatched up as well but I'm. just talking about. >> the young wide receivers or little wide. receivers especially with the new. corners that we have everywhere the new. corners the new corners everywhere are. just like uh shooting guards in the NBA. 6'4 It's five and it's like they're. getting their hands on you immediately,

Hawk. >> So that's why the Tyreek Hills is. actually like the advantage. Like when I. was coming into the league, there was no. 57 wide receivers. It was like 5'9 you. could find every once in a while, but it. just wasn't a thing because earlier. before that, the prototypical corner. size was like 5'10. That wasn't small. That was like, hey, we need guys that. can change direction and can cover. Well, what happened was to your point as. the receivers got huge and the Calvin. Johnson's, the Randy Moss, the Terrell. Owens, they're like, "Yo, we got to get. bigger DBs to stop them." And so the the.

the average side of the corner grows. So. now it's like like Dion says, they want. 61 and 6'2 corners. Well, how do you. beat 61 and 6'2 corners who can't change. direction and want to get their hands on. you? You beat him with Tyreek Hills, with Tank Dells, with like the shorter. guys that can now be elusive. So for. him, when you get to the NFL, there's. like typically one thing that you're. you're like better than everybody else. at. For Tyreek, it's speed, it's. elusiveness, it's it's quickness. Without that, it's going to be tough.

because he's not going to be a body. position guy. You're not throwing jump. balls to Tyreek. As good as he is and as. as great of an athlete and a receiver as. he's been, it just you have the ability. to take that one thing away from him, and that will make his job considerably. harder, especially at the age. We just. showcased the Chiefs obviously telling. them they love him and everything like. that. And the thought of Tyreek Hill. going back to the Chiefs I think is on. everybody's mind. Could be an exciting. development. We will certainly pay. attention. Now let's also talk about an. exciting development. Feels like. quarterback room over there in. Cleveland's getting along. I saw them at. a place where I saw some clapping in the.

back going on. Some good times happening. and the scander some more clapping going. on over here. I'm like, "All right, I. like where [laughter] we're at. I like. what the boys are doing to build a. little chemistry." But there's certainly. a lot of questions. Go ahead, Tone. Yeah, Hawk. Obviously, you're familiar. with the the Cleveland area and being. playing for them and the quarterback. situation. Uh, last year there was a lot. of them. There was a a few guys that. cycled through. Now, this year, Dylan. Gabriel's still there. Shador's. obviously still there. Deshawn Watson, uh, still there. Um, does the does the. fan who does the fan base want first and.

foremost? Who would they be most excited. about? I assume it's Shador. And then. who do you think the front office wants? Who does the team want? What What's your. read on the whole quarterback situation? >> Gez, man. I don't think there's like a. consensus quarterback that everybody. wants for a bunch of different reasons. that we don't have to get all the way. into here, but I would say. >> whoa, it's July, brother. We got time. We get into all those get into all. >> Shadore is he was exciting when he came. in there. And I think you also have a. big piece of the fan base that thought. Dylan Gabriel should should get more.

time there. If you're asking me who I. think is the day one starter, I think. it's going to be Deshun Watson. Just to. be real, because it's not any indictment. on anybody's ability or like what the. young guys will grow to be, especially. Shador who had some moments and the. things he presents sometimes aren't like. you're not going to pull it on scouting. reports. But I think with Deshawn Wa. Deshawn Watson as you go through an off. seasonason, as you go through a camp, this is a guy who's played at extremely. high level. And typically, you're just.

not going to beat a veteran like that. out in the offseason in training camp. They do that kind of stuff in their. sleep. And Shador will get there. Um. Dylan Gabriel will get there eventually, but I think they open up with Deshun. Watson. And then when the real bullets. are flying, then they're going to really. have to make decisions on all right, is. this giving us the best option or do we. go back to Shadore for some of that, you. know, late game uh motivation that we. saw him give the team last season. >> It was a nice spark, man. I I mean,

obviously the stats were like so. horrendous, you know, it was like uh cuz. we were all seeing the same thing. We're. like Shador's winning games for. Cleveland. Everybody loves him. Who. cares? Put his ass in there. They've. been looking for this. Let him learn. And then all the Shadore haters came out. immediately like he had three. completions. Okay, can we uh can it's. like well he did something. Did he put. him in the right spot? Made him put him. in the right mindset. Is that not all. we're looking for? And you remember the. Browns had Baker Mayfield win him a. playoff game and kick him out of town. So who knows if any quarterback.

situation will end up being perfectly. there. Deshun Watson felt like uh if he. wanted to play he was going to get the. opportunity to play and that's all. because of uh 230 million guaranteed. dollars. >> Oh yeah. >> Yeah. So if Deshawn can stand up. >> and he can take a snap. >> and he wants to throw a football to a. teammate of his or the other team, >> he's going to get the opportunity to do. that. That is just kind of how business. works, I think, in any any field. But I.

love that nobody's talked about Dylan. Gabriel. Okay. Hey, Dylan Gabriel. You. just mentioned Dylan Gabriel for the. first time I think on national. television in forever [laughter] talking. about the quarterback thing cuz he came. in played some good ball, but he's been. in a I mean, Kurt Cousins gets drafted. after RG3, right? >> So, that's a that's [clears throat] a. not a great desirable situation. Dylan. Gabriel maybe in the worst situation. situation quarterback has ever been in. before. >> You got drafted before Shador, >> third rounder, right? Third rounder and. then Shador is a fifth rounder and. everybody's like, "Sweet, get the little.

guy out of here." Sure. And then you. look at his college career. Guy won. >> Yeah. >> So many games. Guy could spin it. It's. like Is he just eager to get somewhere. else? Is he. >> Good luck, Browns. >> Good luck, Dylan. >> No, just good luck to the Browns. >> Yeah, them too. >> Yeah, more heavy on the good luck to the. Browns. I do think if you're asking me. Pat, which you're not, but I'm gonna say. I think Shadore has the highest ceiling. And I think Dylan is far along Shadore. just in the sense of like, you know, like I said, the undersized quarterback.

is like the undersized receiver, like. the undersized anything. You got to do. everything right. I think Shador is. still learning, but I think that spark. that you felt was a lot of the upside. that you get with Shadore. And he does. take I think he takes a leap in year. two. So many people are mad at us for. being pumped that Shador was winning. Man, >> shut up. I don't want to hear I don't. want to hear about this guy. It's like. >> too bad. >> All right, man. You see what he did to. Colorado? >> How about did you see what he did to uh. >> Jackson State? >> Jackson State. I mean, we did college. game day down there at Jackson State.

Yeah. Like what and what he was doing. there and he's remained the exact same. It feels like cut back on the content in. the building, which we appreciate. because that was getting I I think. everybody was like, "Hey, >> if you want to be treated like a serious. quarter, we got to be doing like you. can't just be acting like a content. creator." Yes. Inside of an NFL locker. room if you're trying to be an actual. serious quarterback. And I think he. heard that and I think they all were. like, "Yep, let's do that." Showed up. early, was in the community. He We saw. him at the ESPs. Great. He looks like. he's in great shape. Not that he ever. didn't, but like as he's continuing to.

mature, he's getting into great. I hope. Shore does good. I hope the Browns win. >> I hope they win. >> Love. >> Who's their best player? >> The two of them. It cancels out, I. think. Right. >> Yeah. >> No, you canceled this out, I think. >> No, no, no, no, no. That's double it. I. thought that double it up. That. cancelceled it out. All right, just go. one then. There you go. >> I think if you get one toe, though, I. think if you do the toe, I think if it's. >> toe two fingers and I'm back, then I. double it. They got a lot of good players in.

Cleveland. Young, but they're good. I'm. telling you. Young four. >> Oh yeah. >> Judy's my favorite football player. >> He's the man. Schwezinger. >> I love Jerry Judy player. >> Jerry Judy had no idea how to play golf. Steps right up to a putting thing. What. you want me to put in this hole? Where. am I putting this thing? >> Bang. >> I love Jerry Judy. >> He's the man. >> The internet's being him. They need to. be nicer to him. >> He's on the bronze. >> Yeah. >> People need to No offense to the Bronx, but he's on the bronze. Like we gota. it's not that's a tough sled number. >> I know.

>> What's up Paul? >> God's got Come on, man. Don't get the. Browns. We'll be Our time is coming. Watch. We got to be patient. Patient in. Cleveland. >> I think you're going to have to get rid. of that little poop elf. What? >> Brownie. [laughter]. >> Brownie sucks. >> Brownie. I think the poop elf has got to. go. I think if you guys want to win, >> that's that's football history right. there. That is that is like. >> the dog pound. >> JUST LIKE THEIR TEAM. >> OH, >> ALL OF IT. OH, come on. Maybe the new. stadium will bring a new. >> Last question. Last question. Brown. Hey, we would like to see the Browns.

fans in Faithful have happiness. We. would like to see that. >> I I would like to see that personally. >> Served. >> I don't know if it's this year, but I do. hope it happens soon. Last question for. you, Hawk. >> Yeah, on the up and up, but Hawk, uh, let's talk about a team that will. definitely be in at the Buffalo Bills. Uh, they are the second highest odds, I. think Diggs said it earlier, at plus a. thousand to win the Super Bowl, right. behind the Rams. Um, how do you feel. about Joe Brady in his kind of whole. entire operation? Feels like it never. really works out when you fire a coach.

who wins 12, 13 games a year in the. division over and over and over again. and then, you know, go to the offensive. coordinator, but it feels as though no. matter what or who the coach is for the. Bills, they got Josh Allen, so they'll. have a chance. What are your kind of. expectations here for them? >> I I I think they have enough to go to. the Super Bowl. Now, whether that. happens obviously remains to be seen. My. question is, is it enough of a change. from Joe Brady to your point getting. promoted within the building to give. people the spark that's needed to get. him over that last hump? I love Jim. Leonard coming in as a D coordinator.

playing with Jim. Smartest football. player I've ever been around. Like, no. know what you're doing three plays in. advance. He was a D coordinator for. Wisconsin. Crushed it there. I think. that'll be um a real benefit to the. defense. And I like that they got DJ. Moore. DJ Moore is probably past the. best years of his life. But what you. need for a guy like Josh Allen, this is. your all world quarterback. Give him. legitimate threats on each side of the. field and he will be hard to stop. because if you play it honest, it opens. up the run. He has one of the best. running backs in James Cook. Khil Shakir. is now on one side. DJ Moore, it right.

sizes Keon Coleman. So the questions of. whether or not he has enough weapons is. always the thing going into the season. post Stefon. Now you have enough. weapons, you have threats everywhere. If. your defense remains like near the top. where they've been over the last five. years on average, I think he'll have. enough to get over the hump and he. should have enough to get get to the. Super Bowl. >> That's awesome to hear from Buffalo. That's another place. >> Mhm. >> Heartbreak and a miserable winner. I. mean, end that thing and then what do we.

got? Three more months of not being able. to walk outside. >> Yeah. They're AFC San Francisco. >> Oh, >> 49ers, not Buffalo City. >> Okay. Yeah, you're talking heartbreak. after heartbre one half. >> that deep ball. Jimmy G. >> Yeah. >> All right. Before half. >> Manny Sanders. >> If that is if that's a touchdown. >> I know. >> Whole different ball game. >> Where's Brock Party? You know, >> ladies and gentlemen, that's Andrew. Hawk. >> Yeah. >> Familiar faces in new places. Might want.

to take a look at this graph as training. camp rolls in. Not just a reminder for. you guys, certainly a reminder for us as. well. Miles Garrett. Oh yeah, he's a Ram. now. Max Crosby. Oh yeah, he's a Raider. now. >> Okay, >> remember? >> Yeah, there were a couple days he. wasn't. That was. >> Was it one day? What What was it. actually? Was it a two-day period where. nobody was speaking? >> I think it was multiple days because he. came like so far after and that's why I. was like, "What the hell just happened?". >> But he was only in he was actually in. their building one day. One day. >> and then he didn't meet with anybody and.

he was kicked out. And then he was like, "Oh, I don't know what's going on.". >> Ravens got shut out in free agency. They're like, "Oh, we can't give up all. these picks. Let's fake an injury." And. then Trey Hendrickson's coming. We're. going to pay him a bunch of money. Yeah. Allegedly, that is what everybody said. happened. Nonetheless, Max Crosby goes. back to the most talented Raiders team. they've had. >> I mean, it is unbelievable that they. were able to keep their best player. whenever they shipped him out of town. >> And now they have their best player and. the best roster that they've had. And. quarterbackwise, >> we think they got their best quarterback. since Rich Ganon.

>> And they got the two best linebackers in. free agency, too, right behind him. >> That's what I think. Go ahead. Uh, Nick, were you going to say something or are. you agreeing with the rich? >> No, we're about to send you some news. >> Fernando signed his deal. >> Yes, sir. >> There you go. >> There we go. So, no drama going in. Fernando has signed his rookie contract. as uh rookie training camp kind of. continues. He's got. >> his four-year 57.27 million fully. guaranteed contract with the fifth year. Okay, so we don't know when that money's. coming. Okay, so that fully guaranteed. amount of money right there. Now, granted, he got paid a lot of money from.

Indiana. Not as much as other schools. got paid. He got paid multiple millions. of dollars, nowhere near that amount of. money. And he won the Heisman and the. National Championship. So, whenever. we're talking about these college kids. getting paid in college, they're. certainly making good money. They're all. millionaires. We're very happy for him. But the NFL contracts what you're trying. to get to. And that one is just what. he's starting with. His second one. >> Yeah. Right. He might be the first. hund00 million quarterback. >> Second, the third contract. >> Yeah. >> You know, with way everything's kind of. heading right now. They're at 60. It's. going to get to 70. And then if we pick.

up another streaming platform and Roger. Goodell adds another game in the new CBA. and they got more prime time games on. more networks. It's like we could see a. $100 million quarterback within the six. seven years. >> That's insane. >> And that would be. that'd be whatever he would be getting. in there. >> Yeah. >> Good luck, Fernando. That's all you got. online. >> Yeah, exactly. >> That's all you got on the line. >> Throw that ball. >> Dexter Lawrence is now a Cincinnati. Bengal. Who remembers that? All of us. Sexy Dex. He's going over to Cincy. Injoku. Incredible tight end. He joins. Justin Herbert. Linder Bomb big signing.

30 mil a year for the Las Vegas Raiders. Michael Pitman. Hate hate. hate that he's gone. Yeah, >> absolute dog. They're going to love him. in Pittsburgh. Achan is now a member of. the Saints. Jaylen Phillips, Eagles to. Panthers. Eagles to Texans. They're. going through some changes over there, but. >> maybe they don't have the ass offense. coordinator that everybody said they had. last year. >> Yeah, exactly. True. >> They would have won in their Super Bowl. if it went for that guy. >> Probably. That's what they're saying. >> You could say you can say that because.

they had to fire him. So you can you. people just buys into it. >> Patulo. >> Yeah. Kevin Patul. I was trying to. remember lot so many paans every so many. though. I hope you get another. opportunity. But it feels like you got a. >> and they're egging his house. >> I mean he got a tough draw there. But. they did stink in comparison to what. they were in the past. Uh Trey. Hendrickson obviously new place. AJ. Brown is a Patriot. That get that is not. talked about. We talk about all the. Eagles stuff and all the Eagles drama. AJ Brown, their best wide receiver. whenever they're going. He's now a New.

England Patriot with Drake May. Mike. Evans staple of Tampa Bay Buccaneers is. with the Niners. Kyler Murray, is he. going to be a starter? We shall see. McDuffy, Wadd, Dobs, Willis, Pacheco, Analone, likely Montgomery, Ricard, and. Robinson all have new homes. And oh. yeah, stop the punter from the Ravens is. now on the Giants. >> Okay. >> And he is a New York Giant. Ladies and. gentlemen, joining us now is an NBA. giant, >> senior NBA insider for ESPN, Sham.

Shirana. >> Champs, you're not a New York. Giant, but you are senior NBA insider in. the middle of all these stories. Honestly, Giannis goes to Miami, Jaylen. goes to Philly, Paul George goes to. Boston. Now, Braun, Braun's available. Draymond opts out. What's going on with. Anthony Davis? Feels like the NBA has. been alive for you in your job, but also. for all of us. Right now, everybody's.

looking at LeBron James and his. decision. Rich Paul has told us unless. Shawn says it, nobody's got it. Okay. Nobody has a clue what's going on. I. respect him saying that about you. I. appreciate that you have the inside. track on all these things. You're the. senior NBA insider, but can you tell me. about a potential puzzle that's trying. to be put together by Clutch Sports? And. I know they got the black SUVs that are. potentially going to show up outside, but they might have the black SUVs. showing up at Golden State. Is the. thought here that we can put the. superpowers together? Can we have a.

starting five potentially in Golden. State of Steph Curry? >> What? >> Anthony Davis, >> what? >> Draymond Green, >> what? >> LeBron James, >> what? >> Kevin Durant, >> WHAT? >> Nobody's mentioning Kevin Durant. Obviously, a few. I just got pretty. excited. And then why not Klay Thompson. coming back and splashing up there? Is. there a chance that that's what's trying. to piece? And then Miami, do we got. Anthony Davis joining the Greek Freak, Bam Adabio, LeBron James, Wigan? Is that. what's going on? Is this Are we waiting.

on other pieces for Braun Braun? Because. that's a new rumor. Or what are we. really waiting on here? And how does. this end up shaping up if you had to. project it on July 23rd? Sean, >> that on July 23rd, we're literally just. waiting on LEBRON JAMES. WE'RE PISSING. IN THE WIND. >> That's the way. That's the choice. His. decision. >> Um, you know, the Warriors conversation. that was definitely alive uh right. before free agency started. That's why. Draymond Green opted out. He opted out. of $27.7 million. That surprised the.

Warriors. That surprised everyone around. the league. But that was done to give. the Warriors the flexibility to try to. get LeBron James and Anthony Davis. Those conversations for AD have gone. nowhere for the Warriors from my. understanding. I don't sense any. direction that they're picking back up. in. Uh I don't think that's going to be. a a conversation because it's at a point. now where if the Warriors were to get in. that ball game, they would be uh you. know the they would have to give up. multiple first round picks, multiple. draft picks, multiple swaps, all this.

other stuff. And and then the question. is just do you want to give that price. up? Now, you know, when I talk to teams. around the league, it's like if you have. a chance to get LeBron James and Anthony. Davis, you probably give up that price. But if you're the Warriors, that's the. give and take that you have there. So. the the domino effect, all that stuff. that was in play before free agency. started. Now that we're 20 days in, there's there's nothing left. Uh the the. teams are the teams. The information is. the information. LeBron has everything. he needs to make a decision. Uh the.

conversations have happened. They're. not, from my understanding, my sources. tell me the LeBron James, his, you know, his agent Rich Paul, that inner circle, they're not waiting for another domino. right now. They're not waiting for. Anthony Davis to get traded anywhere. They're not waiting for anyone else to. move around anywhere. The teams, Cleveland, Miami, Golden State, Philadelphia, Minnesota, they're set. Those are the teams. Wherever he ends. up, I mean, you're looking at minimum. deals, you're looking at exceptions. The. contracts are not going to be this this.

grand heart of this of this deal. LeBron. James was very clear from the very. beginning. This is going to be based on. a happiness in terms of chance to. contend for a championship, a chance to. compete at a high level, join a culture. that doesn't come from going to a team. and then gutting that team from multiple. different players. Now listen, if if. during the first week of July, LeBron. James and Rich Paul told, you know, the. Heat or the Cavs or the Warriors, hey, we need you to do this and we're coming.

that those teams might have done that. But that message was not delivered. And. so you just kind of have to read between. the lines if you're some of these teams. and you need to figure it out. But it's. but it's at a point now July 23rd, it's. really up to LeBron James. The entire. NBA is waiting on LeBron James'. decision. I feel like Pat, we're having. two different free agencies trade. periods in the NBA. We had the one over. three weeks where all those trades. happened like you mentioned, Giannis, LaMelo, Jaylen Brown, Kawhi Leonard, >> what. >> and now we're three weeks into the into.

the into July and you're going to have. the LeBron James domino. And again, we'll see. Does LeBron James fall before. your album or after your album? We're. we're about to figure it out. I think. it's going to be before, but we'll see. Um, so once that happens though, you're. going to get a string of other things. Demar D Rozan, he's a six-time all-star. He needs to find a spot. Draymond Green. needs to sign his deal. James Harden. needs to sign his deal. Jonathan. Kaminga, where is he going to end up? Is.

he going to be a Laker? Is he going to. be Cleveland Cavalier? Is he going to. be, you know, go go go to another team? Bradley Beal, he's a multi-time. all-star. There's a guy abroad right now. by the name of Mario Honia. Pat, >> he's coming from the Euro League. >> to back to the NBA. He was a high draft. pick, you know, several years ago. >> Finally, >> he is being held up by LeBron James. So, LeBron James not ONLY HOLDING. >> HE'S HOLDING UP HIS own customs. >> Come on. >> He's holding up business cuz Mario Honia. is waiting because there's a few of. these teams whether it's a Golden State,

whether it's a Cleveland, etc. that it's. waiting on LeBron James to make a. decision. LeBron James is very cognizant. of that, I'm sure. And listen, >> these teams might be waiting. These. teams might be getting antsy pep, but. I'm ready. I'm I'm ready. I don't care. LeBron can take all summer. We're locked. and loaded, baby. Yeah, we're locked and. loaded. >> Yeah, Sean's done sleep. Yeah, that's. right. That ain't what I'm decision. anytime. >> For album, post album, during album. release, whatever. I'm ready. I'm. >> app I appreciate you doing that. The. diary of a polarizing figure available.

August 14th uh on uh all available. streaming platforms. I think we have not. uploaded it yet, but we assume it'll be. everywhere. >> I need new music. I need new music, Pat. I'm going I'm I'm binge listening to. this. >> Okay, Sean. I I don't know what type of. music you normally listen to, but I. think I'll have something for you on. there. I I do think I'll have something. for you on there. I I feel really good. about where we're at. Last night had a. nice four and a half hour session here. just kind of going through the entire. thing one final time with somebody or. two people who know music better than. anybody I've ever met. So, they come up.

from Nashville here. It was uh it's been. a fun time. But on that note, August. 14th, the diary of POLARIZING FIGURE, I. HATE THAT GUY, MAN. I love that. Yeah, that's kind of that's the whole that's. kind of the whole thing, you know. So, uh, I think people will be surprised by. what comes, but I appreciate you doing. that. Let's get back to a lot of the. things that you said there. I we. apologize for stepping on your abroad. business abroad joke as well, cuz you. know, we we heard that guy's name. Henoni. What's. >> his He's been waiting in the airport for. like 3 weeks. >> Like Tom Hanks. >> Exactly. Exactly where he's going. Am I.

going to Golden State? Am I going to. Cleveland? I'm waiting. But it's true. >> Okay. Okay. Okay. Forget that. Okay. Yes. Good. Okay. Uh, you said something. about contracts. So, what we're. expecting him to just get like 10. million bucks like you said he's not. going to uh the money's not going to be. that crazy. You said vet min, but I. think that was for other people. LeBron. obviously knows his worth, understands. his worth, has never played for. something that is like super small. We. watch Aaron Rodgers play for very small. and then I saw we saw him play for like. 10 million bucks. We've seen older. legends do this at places because they.

want the money to go elsewhere. They. want to build a team or maybe the team. doesn't have enough money left for them. to go there. What are you projecting. LeBron's uh deal is going to be? And is. that already agreed to with all these. teams? Basically, is that already. figured out? Because everybody's saying. the business is later. It's like that. feels like a pretty important part of. this entire thing, especially with how. it's all gone. And LeBron knowing he. sells out every building he goes. He is. the he is the show. I mean, everybody. understands that. So, what does that. deal look like? Because you just kind of. said this isn't going to be a tough. thing to figure out business-wise. So, they already have that figured out then.

Is that what that sounds like? >> Yeah. For for the most part, some of. these teams that are involved really. they only have to give is veteran. minimum or exception deals. Whether it's. a you know something called a bianual. exception that's you know somewhere. between $5 million the minimum for. LeBron James would be around $4 million. But you know whether you're going to a. Cleveland Golden State Minnesota. Philadelphia all those teams for the. most part that's the ranges of contracts. that they have. you're looking at better. minimum and exceptions by annual. exceptions, you know, part of mid-level.

exceptions potentially if you have but. taxpayer that is cuz all of these teams, they're highspending teams. They're. they're going to be teams that going to. be in the tax teams that are spending. top dollar to try to field teams because. they've got they're so topheavy in terms. of their salary. You know, you think. about a Miami, you just you have two. players on max contracts and Bam Adabio. and Giannis Edmpo. Then you have. Wiggins. you have a team that's pretty. filled up salary-wise, but you have to. get a player like LeBron James on a. contract that's either a minimum or.

you're going to get part of the tax. pyramid level, which will be somewhere. around 78 million. So, yeah, I mean, that's the range. And so, wherever. LeBron James goes, it's not going to be. much of that conversation financially. But again, this is something that LeBron. James made clear. This is about going to. a team where you get happiness, championship contention, and. competitiveness. Trust me, if LeBron. James during the first week of free. agency wanted to say, "Hey, I wanted to. go here. You know, you need to make this. type of money space for me." All these.

teams would be doing different things. But you have to try to build the best. team you possibly can. >> That's Shania. We're back on the other. side. Be a friend. Tell friends. something nice. >> It's electrifying here in Happy Valley. We're lucky to be here. And uh you know. the way you win this is you have uh be. the first 300 people here and you get a. ticket and then we randomly select a. ticket and that person gets an. opportunity to kick a 33 yard field goal.

for an undetermined amount of money. This week we had our man William, right? What's your name? >> William. Yes, sir. >> You won the raffle and you said I don't. want to kick because I suck at kicking. Is that accurate? >> More or less. >> What is your uh major here? >> I'm a finance major. >> Okay. So, money decision was I suck at. this. Let me try to find somebody who's. good at this. How did you land on my man. here? And uh what are your hopes in him? >> Well, I was looking around. I saw my. man. He said he plays soccer and I was. like, this is my guy right here. My guy.

Carson. I have faith in him. So, I know. he's going to get it done. >> All right. You're Carson, right? You. played high school soccer. Is that. accurate? >> I did play high school soccer. >> Where are you from? >> I'm from Hannover, Pennsylvania. >> Okay. You're a Pennsylvania guy. Have. you ever kicked a ball before? other. than not football, soccer. >> Okay. Well, hopefully you're terrible at. this. It's $100,000. Uh are you guys. splitting that 50/50? >> Yes, sir. >> Okay. Uh so we'll make it uh $300,000. $150,000 for both of you. Okay.

>> You only get one kick, though. You've. game the ticket game, which I appreciate. and respect. It's up to $300,000. $150. for both of you. Only one kick though, Herby. We're not doing anything. I don't. care how many standers chant for another. kick. [cheering]. >> Only one. Herby played high school. soccer. He's a good player. >> We got a problem here. >> That's right. It's a white out. It could. be a special day. YOU COULD HELP OUT. YOUR GUY William in winning $150,000.

One kick, three, TWO, [cheering]. [cheering]. [cheering]. >> GOOD, MAN. CARSON, CONGRATULATIONS.

>> You pushed that, >> WILLIAM. WAY TO GO. >> IT HAS BEEN AN EXPENSIVE YEAR OUT HERE. AT the field kick, Carson. I'm proud OF. YOU, BUDDY. 300,000. 150 to you. 150 TO. YOU. GOOD FINANCE decisions were made in. the FIRST TOP SIX WHITE OUT HAS A. MAGICAL VIBE AND AN EXPENSIVE ONE. We. are [cheering]. >> WE ARE. WE are. >> Thank you. [laughter].

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>> Did we get a large supply of. sweatshirts? And is it a little bit. chillier outside? So, the Thunderdome. might have dropped in some temps. And. does that mean everybody's pulling out. all their DraftKings swag around a. Thunderdome? >> Maybe. Sue me. >> Incredible readers. >> You know, what are you going to do? >> And that is 100% correct. >> But it's kind of nice because the last. couple days, you wake up in the morning. It It feels like a fall. It feels like a. fall Friday. It's like, "Oh my god, we. got college football tomorrow. We got. NFL football on Sunday." It has felt. like that the last two days.

>> We were outside yesterday and debut. We're just kind of a couple are sitting. down, a couple standing, you know, kind. of quietly just basking in the hate that. has been sent, you know, in the things. that have been said. We're just kind of. sitting out there just. >> kind of taking it all in. A lot of. people saying a lot of stuff, >> you know, >> we won't remember it, you know, we'll. forget about it as we go forward. Always. do, >> you know, and we'll see. We'll see how. it all goes. We're sitting there though. and Debbuck goes, "Football's in the air.". >> Yep. And it was like,

>> it is, isn't it? >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Almost wanting to crack open a little. crackle of a log, you know, and have a. little fire right there. Almost want to. start it up. Foxy was actually walking. around with a football yesterday saying, "Who wants to spin one with me here a. little bit? Who wants to throw one with. me?" How many days are we away until. college football? >> 48 days. Let's Oh, till college. football. We're 48 days NFL football. I. want to say college is about 37. >> Okay, I like that. We're getting close. It is in the air and it does feel this. way. I would like it to remain warm. though. It started getting a little bit.

too chilly for July. >> Don't worry. Don't worry. The the August. heat always delivers in August. >> Enjoy this now because we will get some. hot hot days. >> One half of the hammer. Cowboys AP. Tony. is here joining us [laughter] live. The. heat's back. >> Yeah. Next week we got some scorchers. >> Yeah. >> And we're going to be pissed when it's. happening. But let's remember once these. stop, >> the sun leaves. >> Yeah. >> That's a caveat with football. And now. that we're not turning the clock back, I. like that. >> I like that. It.

>> got a lot of early warm for uh early. worm folks being like, "Hey, it's gonna. be. >> We have sun for 14 minutes here in. Indianapolis for about, you know, six. months or so." So like, it'd be nice if. we just stopped the whole song and. dance. Like it's not doing anything. Okay. It literally is not. You're. shifting it from one side to the next. Why do we all have to be Oh, we're It's. enough. I It was like a routine. It was. like a celebration. I think we all did, you know. I think it was They said it. was for the farmers, but then the.

farmers came out and we're like, >> "We don't [ __ ] care. >> It's not real. It's not real for all. >> They don't want to start work till 9:00. a.m. >> Farmers working in the night, too. >> Listen, just cuz that rooster ain't up. cuz the sun didn't wake the rooster up. mean the farmer's not up. >> Guess we can't send our kids to school. going to send them to then to dark. >> in where in in. >> 9:00 a.m. >> in be dark at 9:00 a.m. >> Who says who? >> Who? Yeah. Who said that? >> Uh I don't know. Let's just do the math, boys. Okay. If you shift it an hour and. it gets light at 8:00 a.m. in the winter.

and now it's going to get light at 9:00. a.m. in the center. That's pretty. simple. >> So 8:15 a.m. darkness when people. normally go to school anyways. >> Good. >> We'll see. nine. >> He can't do it. >> Listen, when all the kids are dying at. the bus stop, that's on you guys. >> Whoa, WHOA, WHOA. >> IS BRINGING up one thing. And the reason. it didn't pass the He's not giving any. >> They already tried to do this in the. 70s. Kids were dying every day at the. bus stop in the car.

>> THERE STILL PEOPLE DRUNK DRIVING IN THE. 70S. >> NO. NO. Some of us do. >> No, we do not. >> I asked Tim McAfee about it. He said, "I. remember going to school for dark for. like a year and then they cancelled it.". >> Tim McAfee said that. >> Oh yeah. Okay. >> I'm sure he did. >> Tim McAfee's in elementary school is the. last time this didn't work. I think we. can give it another try. >> Yeah. I mean just I don't think I've. ever really dabbled with who elementary. school Tim McAfee was. But now that I'm. kind of thinking about it,

>> I mean he does not remember any of that. [laughter]. Joining us now from Anatican, Ohio, ladies and gentlemen, a college football. national champion, Super Bowl champion, Rder Cup winner. >> We don't want any kids dying at school. bust offs. >> No, of course not. >> And neither is this. Ladies and. gentlemen, AJ HAWK. >> WHAT WAS THAT? That was real politics. right there. I'm a better person than. you are. No, I'm a better person than. you are. That's what he Hey, it makes. like I don't know how many millions of. people's lives just so incredibly. inconvenient. It doesn't really change.

And we're saying it's the farmers and. then you go, "Well, actually kids are. dying." It's like, "Well, all right. I. guess we keep it in then. I guess that's. the that's the play." AJ, uh, thank you. for joining [laughter] us, A. Hope you. were good, man. How's life over there in. Ohio? >> Oh, doing great. I'm actively searching. Amazon now for a bunch of blinky light. things that my kids can wear at the bus. stops. They'll get run over because. they're just going to be stupid and. [laughter] run into the street because. it's dark in the morning. >> Give him one of your splunkers. You. know, whenever you're out there mowing. the lawn at midnight, this guy, he's.

got, you remember this, Foxy, when this. started coming coming into our live. >> That was awesome. >> Yeah. He's got a Zturn at midnight go. ahead and plowing a field, splunking. like. >> bouncing all over the place. >> AJ, you're a special specimen, man. You. really are. >> Thank you. >> Joining us now is another special. specimen. A man that that this is the. greatest transition into this [laughter]. guy that he's ever had. And I know that. cannot wait to get back into this man's. presence on a regular basis. Seventime.

national champion, 11time. SEC champion. So that means at least. four times they didn't win national. championship. What a shitty football. >> Yikes. >> This guy. Can he coach? We'll find out this. upcoming season as he's uh yet again. superstar of college game day. future. hall of famer for everything literally. car salesing selling hockey owning. >> Yeah. >> Football obviously uh baseball cuz I. think he's got a good baseball swing. You'll probably put him in there.

>> Yeah. Hosting, >> speaking, hosting, >> commercials, >> uh acting. >> Yep. >> Ladies and gentlemen, Nick Sabach. >> That's right. >> That's right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah. >> Hey, man. It is so good to see you guys. again. Every time a a different face. pops up, I'm saying, "Great to see these. guys again. Great to see you, Pat." Oh, >> coach, we love that. I want to let you. know, we saw your ass on TV yesterday. We saw you on TV this morning. We know. you're down there at SEC uh media days. doing some Big Journalism. You I saw you.

writing some notes about what Kaylin. Debor was saying so you could give. proper analysis afterwards. Everybody in. the Thunderdome soon as we saw you on TV. clapped, stand, and we said, "He's. back." Yeah, guy's off a [ __ ] golf. course. He's off a speaking tour. This. guy's off the beach. He's uh he's still. with mystery obviously everywhere, but. they're out of the kitchen now and boom, we're back into football. How's it feel. to get back into the swing of things. here? And uh what has it been like at. SEC media days as uh obviously being a.

king down there? Not that you feel that. way, but that is how literally every. other human that looks at you down there. feels. >> You know, I I really enjoy doing this. SEC media day. You know, it it it when I. was coaching, when we had SEC media day, that was like the start of the season. for me. That was the reality of, okay, you got all these other coaches talking. about how good their team's going to be. You're worrying about what your. strengths and weaknesses are on your. team, and now it comes to fruition, and. you got about two weeks till fall camp.

starts. And it was the beginning. And. and I look at it the same way now, you. know, from a media standpoint. this. gives me a great opportunity to get. familiarized with the SEC which you know. we do some of those games and um you. know it was it was the same kind of. anticipation and I love it. >> Kaylin Debor you were writing notes as. he was speaking he's got a lot of. pressure on him. I I I mean the way last. season ended now inevitably it was the. national champion Indiana Hooser team. I. think it was tough for a lot of Bama. people to potentially swallow the pill.

that the Indiana Hooers are the ones. that are doing this to us. bad taste in. all their mouths going into the off. seasonason. I assume you had to hear. about it from everybody that you know. Your thoughts on Kalin Dbor's kind of. like uh I don't want to say positioning, but kind of situation that he is. currently in. He's got a lot of people. pissed. This is the SEC. Uh he's got a. lot of people pissed at at how last year. ended. They're wondering if he's ever. going to be able to live up to the guy. whose name is on the football field uh. in in the area. How do you feel about.

Kaylin Dbor? How do you feel about their. off seasonason? And how do you think he. responds and his team responds this. year? >> Well, you know, first of all, he knew. what he was getting into. Uh, and I kind. of have a lot of respect for him. Uh, knowing what the expectations are, knowing what the challenges would be. Uh, and in this day and age of football, to me, it's even harder when you take a. job because, uh, they lost 26 players to. the portal. So, that's a whole bunch of. guys to make up for. I think he's doing. a a really good job. Um, do I think it's.

an easy job? Hell no. Uh, and you know, this league is a tough league and, uh, recruiting is tough. Uh, this culture. that we have now where people are going. all over the country, uh, based on the. new economic situation players have, uh, makes it even more difficult. But I have. a tremendous amount of respect and. admiration for him to take on that. challenge and embrace that challenge and. try to work through it and and you know. build something special at Alabama. And. I've always been very supportive of them.

and I'm hopeful that they uh they're. flying a little bit under the radar this. year in terms the kind of team they have. and what they lost, what they have to. replace. But I'm hoping that they do. well and uh he comes out of this on top. I'll tell you what, coach, you've been. put in some uh really difficult. positions with how Alabama has. performed, you being on TV, plus you. know, with some people on the set like. saying like, "Yeah, tell us exactly how. you feel. Tell tell us uh everything, you know, like you have I think you have. tried your absolute best to help coach.

Dbor succeed at Alabama in you know, we. know that you understand who you are, okay? I know that you uh try to act like. the same person you were and that is why. you've had the success you are, but. anybody that was trying to hire a head. coach was trying to hire somebody that. had potentially been baptized in your. waters. Okay? Everybody, everybody, every coach is like, "We want this guy. We want this guy." So, for him to never. coach for you or be in your umbrella and. then come into your stadium, actually.

your name's on it. You could have. handled that a lot of different ways. I. think you've been so classy towards. coach Dbor and I assume he is very. grateful for that. And I do hope that he. has success down there and I hope it. ends up working out. But anybody that. was coming in there after him, you had. to have a certain level of you had to. have a you had big gut sack to go in. there. And uh I don't know if they're. going to win at all though. I think Lane. Tiffen at LSU with five stars being born.

in Louisiana. right now. And then. right now and then. a six-star just born right there. [laughter] Uh Deand in the 2044 class is. uh just been born down in Louisiana. Expectations, what should they. reasonably be for him down there, you. think? Obviously, you've coached at LSU, you know, Lane. We were all a part of. the entire experience of him ending up. at LSU. Your thoughts on realistic.

expectations first year in a place, especially with how great he did in the. transfer portal because he's trying to. temper some expectations. I think he's. trying to let his team know like, hey, it's not national championship or last. year. We got to play this week. We got. to do that. But your thoughts on what. expectations should be for the LSU. Tigers, coach? >> Yeah. Well, I I think that Lane did. really well in terms of roster. management, bringing 59 new players in. and a very good recruiting class, but. also a very good top-end bunch of guys. out of the portal. Uh they've got some.

really good players. Do they have enough. depth on their team to be able to. sustain the grind of playing the kind of. schedule they have to play and do they. have the culture built uh to be able to. do that? I don't think there's any doubt. that Lane will be successful at LSU. I. just don't know if it's realistic to. think that turnaround is going to happen. immediate immediately. Uh but I tell you. what, Sam Levit, if that guy comes. through at quarterback, I think they got. enough pieces around um on defense as.

well as on offense uh to really be a. good team and be a contending team. So, uh whether you like the expectations or. not, I I I think look me as a coach, you. know, people talk about expectations. like they're a bad thing. Uh, you can. coach at Kent State where I played and. they got no expectations or you can be. at LSU or Alabama where they have high. expectations. I'd rather be in those. Briar patches where they have high. expectations. And you know, internally, you're going.

to do the best you can and put more. pressure on yourself to try to make your. team as good as you can make it because. you want to win just like the players. want to win, just like the fans want to. win. So, I I I think Lane's going to do. really really well there. I think LSU is. a tremendous job. They got a lot of good. players in the state. Uh those kind of. those players like to stay close to. home. They love LSU. Uh he's got a. really good fan base. He's got a lot of. support. I think the administration is. aligned to help him be successful and. he's look, he's been successful.

everywhere he's been really. I mean, since he he was at Alabama, we were. successful and he contributed to it. He. went to, you know, Florida, Atlantic, or. wherever. He had success there. turned. it around. Did a phenomenal job at Old. Miss and I think there's more potential. for success at LSU than any place he's. ever been. >> Well, I uh I'm excited to see how the. Lane Keif and LSU years go cuz all I'm. newer to college football world. They. obviously always watch but don't know. the uh under the hood if you will.

During that entire Old Miss LSU thing. that was taking place, I was like, why. the hell would you this team could win a. national champion? What are we even. doing? They going to build a statue. there. Everybody that was around college. football was like, "Uh, you go to. Louisiana if you can get to Louisiana, buddy." Okay, the anxieties of life are. your roster. Okay, that's transfer. portal obviously. And then recruiting, recruiting wise, you're good. Literally, you just check the box. There's enough. guys in Louisiana that'll want to stay. at LSU that'll be a better recruiting.

class than everywhere else. And it's. like I didn't take that into. consideration enough I don't think until. well Lane Kevin got down there and the. guy that was waiting for him was the. number one offensive lineman and then. the next day was like the number one. defensive end who grew up four minutes. down the street and then this guy was. there. It's like he's got a real chances. to do something special down there. I I. think is what everybody's seeing. Let's. go to Golding now at Old Miss. I love. this guy. I I absolutely love this guy. He he looks good. Trim hair good. Looks. young but sophisticated. And he's a.

talker. This guy is a talker. He's a. yapper. I I like the way he handles and. operates himself. What do you expect. from him at Old Miss? Because he's. coming into a situation where obviously. he's beloved, but you lose some games. Why' we This is a feel-good sympathy. hire. Why do we have I mean, he's going. to have I mean, it's SEC football. He's. got a lot of pressure and expectations, too. I like the way he's handling. What. do you expect from him and from Old. Miss? They might have the best. quarterback in the country in Winnad. >> Yeah. Well, Pete was an outstanding. coach for us as a defensive coordinator.

Uh he's a good teacher. He's a players. coach. Players love him. He relates well. with them, but but he also commands that. they do things the right way. A lot of. discipline. Uh I think he's got some. really good players. I think it speaks. volumes that he took over a very. difficult situation when Lane left and. he's got a team that's in the playoffs. They won a couple games. he was a able. to keep, you know, Trinidad and the. running back, uh, Ke and so that in. itself, you know, you're talking about.

an offensive coach left, the defensive. coach is able to keep the two best. offensive players, you know, that they. have on their team and in the program. and two of the best in the country. and. um you know he's he's a defensive guy, but I I I think it speaks volumes for. the player relationships that he was. able to develop and they brought some. good players in and he thinks he has. just as good a roster as they had a year. ago. Now, I don't think they're going to. be as explosive on offense. I don't. think they have as good a receivers, but. they're going to have a really good.

team. Uh and you know, Pete's got a lot. of pride in performance and I think. he'll do well there. >> Yeah, I I appreciate him. The way he was. speaking was very transparent and he was. >> he was pulling some great metaphors. I. mean he was he was deep thinking. Yeah. But on how and this is uh the as we wrap. up the old miss conversation here is. Pete Golding talking about you talk. about his relationship with his players. being able to keep the best quarterback. in the SEC, best quarterback in the. country who everybody thought was. leaving and Lacy the running back.

thought he was leaving. He ends up. keeping him. This is what he had to say. via Pete Thaml's audio recording in a. press junket off camera. I was like, "Dude, y'all two in one season, right? Created a legacy that it's going to be. hard for anybody to ever overtake and. for what's going on right now, right? For them to see Coach Keifin to leave. Just Google Lane Keifin." That's what I. had both of them do in my office. Say. Google Lane Kein, a dude that they would. have built a statue of here, right, 3. days ago. Google his name right now.

They wouldn't piss someone if it's on. fire, right? And so they're going to do. the same thing to y'all two if you do. what? But based on the situation, if. y'all two come out and say, "You know. what? No, no, no, no. I'm going to. continue to build on the legacy that I. created, right? What that's going to do. for you and this fan base and this. alumni for the rest of your life, I. don't give a [ __ ] where you go and what. they pay you will never amount to that. much.". >> That's a good sale, coach. That's a good. sale. Hey, listen. You happen to come. back. [laughter].

Who do you learn that from? Who do you. learn that from, coach? >> You are you doing a piss on fire guy? Are you Are you Is that one of your. isms? >> Yeah. Well, [laughter]. >> we had a guy one time that had a bad rap. that they sent me out to San Diego State. to work out when I was at the Cleveland. Browns. And we weren't going to draft. the guy cuz he had bad character. And I. sat down with the guy after I worked him. out and I said, "Look, your strength. coach here said he wouldn't piss on you.

if you were on fire." And that's the. report that we're getting. So if I go to. bat for you and we draft you, you got to. you you you got to make a commitment to. me that you're never going to be a. problem. And he says, "I'll do it, coach. I'll do it, coach." And he was a. damn good player. And we never had an. issue with him. So sometimes when you're. upfront with players and they understand. the circumstances cuz sometimes players. don't have a lot of foresight, especially when they're young. and I I I think Pete made a great point. with those guys because they will be.

remembered forever for what they. accomplished at Old Miss and they would. have got killed if they'd have left. >> Yeah. And if they don't win at all at. LSU, does any school really? >> Yeah. True. >> You know, and then it's like they. showcase their loyalty to Old Miss. I. assume the Old Miss faithful will. certainly be appreciative of that. uh. down the line. And I do like your. leadership style. Hey, I'm gonna tell. you the truth. The guy that's with you. the most, strength coach, I don't know. if you know this, he told me directly. that if you were on fire, he would not.

piss on you to save your That is not. good. Okay, that that would be. classified as not great news. >> Good recommendation. [laughter]. But you know, one record I'm going to relinquish which. which I'm a little bit disappointed. about is when I went back to LSU after. coming to Alabama after being at Miami. and they hung me in epig, burned me in. effigy. The whole student section was. there chanting f you Nick. You know,

when I walked out on the field with two. hours to go before the game, which. usually there's nobody there, I told the. players, "This is going to be the most. unbelievable circumstance you've ever. got yourself into when we ride in on the. bus and they were all like, "No [ __ ]. coach. This we'll handle this." And then. we get in the locker room and they say, "That's worse than you told us.". [laughter]. >> So, that was a record for anybody coming. back to a place that they'd been before. Lane is going to break that record when. he goes back to Old Miss this year. That.

that will be blown away. Nobody will. even remember that ever because this. will be such a big thing and we're going. to be there to witness it and I'm kind. of looking forward to that. [laughter]. >> Are you announcing that? You just. announced college game day is going. there. Is that what you just did right. there? Because I remember there was a. time we weren't supposed to talk about. that. Coach, you remember that? >> Yeah, I know. But I think we'll end up. there. They won't be able to they won't. be able to withstand the. consequence of not being there.

>> Yeah. [laughter] Well, >> that's a good way to describe that. I. was excited to see how you landed that. plane. That was the right way to do. that. Yeah. Whenever we did the Disney. upfronts, they're like, "We're going to. announce the first two weeks." Only the. first two weeks. >> It's like, "Okay, where are we going?". >> Yeah, I remember that. >> Clemson LSU and Ohio State Texas. >> Go ahead. If any of the boys there want. to put wager on whether we're going to. be be there that week or not, I'm I'm. I'm I'm up for it. >> No, [laughter] you're gambling man now. Coach is a gambling man. No, but I said,

why are we not like why are we not. announcing it week three? This is. literally this is the entire offseason. Like we don't know if now is the right. time to announce because there was some. [ __ ] going on. I guess at the time it's. like yet now would be the right time to. announce it. And I go coach I go coach. are you going to talk about us going to. uh miss week three whenever Lane Ke. comes back? Coach goes, "They told us. how to talk about it." I go, "Oh, [laughter] okay. Okay." And then we roll. out there. Reese goes, "First week we're. this, this week this, and week three. we're I literally chime in immediately.". Coach, I appreciate how you handle my.

[ __ ] You know, I do cuz you just I feel. like you understand I'm probably. dragging you into something. Okay, I am. dragging you into something, but it does. feel like you are appreciative of that. So, I uh I'm very grateful for you in. that scene. I've been told the Grove, right? Is that what it's called? the Grove or something. >> The Grove. Uh I've heard that place is. like the place is what everybody talks. about. Like, hey, whenever it's buzzing, that is where we need to be. Game day.

obviously hasn't had the opportunity to. go there since I've had a incredible. opportunity to be a part of the program. And for that game to be happening down. there, can't wait to get in there. It's. going to be an absolute buzzaw. I It's. not that LSU isn't week one. >> Yeah. >> With Clemson going in there, Austin, Texas, Ohio State. first three weeks we. got absolutely and then college football. will deliver the rest of the way. Uh Tai. has a question for you, coach. >> Yeah, coach, speaking of Texas, uh what. do you think the expectations are for. them this year? We had Herby on. yesterday and you know, although this. might be one of, if not the best, you. know, rosters in the country on paper.

Herby just couldn't he he he wasn't. ready to say, you know, I just I don't. think they're going to win the national. championship. But obviously those are. the type of aspirations and expectations. a lot of people have put on them not. only with Arch but with some of the. high-profile transfers and how much. pressures on Sarkc. Uh what are your. thoughts on Texas going into this year? >> Well, I I think Texas is one of the. teams to beat, you know, in the SEC, no. doubt, but I also think Georgia is. And. and I think, you know, the one of the.

things that um in talking to Stark that. they have to reestablish there because. last year they couldn't run the ball. They didn't control the line of. scrimmage. Uh they weren't as physical. as they needed to be. And you know, there's a consequence for that. You. know, you really can't practice the way. you want to practice when you're not. physical. And I think it affects your. performance in the long run. But Arch. has, you know, come of age at the end of. last season. I think he will lead this. team. Uh I think they have a talented. team. You know, that receiver from.

Auburn, you know, Cam is an outstanding. player. Uh, I think uh they'll be better. on the offensive line. I think they're. making a commitment to be a more. physical team. That's why they've. struggled with Georgia because Georgia's. just been more physical in the trenches. than them and they're going to have to. eventually beat Georgia some kind of way. if they want to get where they want to. go. So, um, I think that's the emphasis. That's the mentality. You know, Texas. had 23 guys drafted the first two years. SK was there. They had six last year.

So, that that was the youngest team he's. had. And I think in this day and age of. football, having a more mature team is. beneficial because the guys are older. that you play against than they used to. be. Used to be everybody was three and. out. Now people are still playing for. five, six, and seven years. So 18 year. olds are playing against 25 year olds. So if you have an older team and a more. mature team, I think that's beneficial. to you. I think that was one of the. advantages that Indiana had last year. They had an older, more mature team. So. Texas is going to have a more mature.

team and I think that's going to help. them. But I also think that they're. going to have to be a more physical team. and that'll help them be more explosive. if they can run the ball throwing the. ball down the field, which they need to. make more explosive plays, which is what. Sark's always been known for. Will. Muschamp on defense is going to help. them, I think, uh because he's an old. school guy and they'll play with more. toughness on defense. >> I uh I hope Arch Manning gets a chance. to be you everything that we thought he. was. You know, they might have been. shell shocked for the rest of the year. after having to take on what a historic.

defense in Ohio State. >> Yeah. >> Ohio State give up like four first downs. over like a fivewe period. >> Yeah. Well, they have like six guys on. the starting 11 get drafted in the first. round or something. >> And that is literally the first week. like, hey, you get in in this. seven-point game. By the way, like what. we would learn about what that Ohio. State defense was going forward. We. didn't know at the time they were going. to be what they were going to be, which. was outstanding. It's like that might. have been that might have been a. confidence killer for that entire team. for the first few weeks and then. obviously it carries on maybe this year.

fresh restart. I saw him tick tocking. I. don't know. >> Yeah. Not sure. >> I don't know. But we'll see. We'll see. what that means in the modern age. Should I be judging a dance on TikTok. more than I am? I I I or less than I am. We We kind of see how the season goes, coach. I see some of these Tik Toks come. out of these locker rooms, coach, and I. immediately go, they're not going to win. a national championship. But I might be. wrong. I I might I might be just too old. now at this point. You know what I mean, coach? Because sometimes people like to. dance just like your old ass. You know, sometimes you got to twostep that thing. a little bit. >> You could step through back in the day.

>> You still doing that? You and Miss Terry. still twosteping or no? We done. twosteping. >> If she'll dance with me, I will. >> Oh god, you guys love each other. I. mean, it is. Look, he's blushing right. now. Look at [laughter] he's blushing. right now. It's unbelievable. Shout out. Miss Terry. Can't wait to see her on the. road. Conman has a question for you. about football. >> Yeah, coach, great to see you look. better than ever. Uh, speaking of Texas, let's go to College Station. Texas A&M. was third in odds on that graphic that. just popped up behind Georgia and Texas.

And it feels like Texas A&M is bringing. back enough guys with more experience, especially after last year making the. college football playoff. Elco is. basically saying like, "Hey, I keep the. boys motivated cuz I go and show them. the trophy case and there ain't [ __ ] in. it." Uh, what do you think about them? Do do you see Texas A&M going back to. the college football playoff, making a. run at the SEC title game? Uh where do. you see them finishing and how do you. see their year going? >> Well, I I'm a Mike Elco guy. Uh in terms.

of, you know, what he's done at&m, they. had 10 guys drafted. That's more than. they've ever had. Uh they've got some of. the highest rated recruiting classes, which they've never had in the past, or. when they did, they fell apart for. whatever reasons. They've won more. games. They're playing better defense. He's one of the best defensive coaches. in the country scheme-wise. I think uh. and I think they've reloaded. I think. they got some good players coming back. I think Marcel Reed is a really, really.

good quarterback who puts a lot of. pressure on the defense and I think they. did a good job in the portal and they. did a good job of recruiting. I think. they're going to be one of the teams. that people need to contend with in the. SEC. No doubt. >> I um I loved the way Elco operates. Yeah, >> coach. He don't care that that's a the. shirt's getting bigger. [laughter]. >> We're in 2026 and he just he does not. care at all. >> He he just. >> he just kind of goes with whatever. >> I mean, you can't be some skinny weak.

guy when you're walking down the tunnel. of power. You got to exude power. So, he. just keeps let that belly just keep. going. >> No, Ty. I'm not talking. I'm just. saying. >> That's what I'm saying. That's why I. love it. >> He's calling him a fatso. Coach Ty just. called Coach. I don't like that. >> I'm not calling him a fat. So, that. would be the pot calling the kettle. black. I'm not doing that. I'm just. saying when I hear power now, I I see. Mike. >> How about he starts popping. >> ball guy tell you that. >> What's that? >> Players him too. >> Players love him. He's super smart.

>> He's a good ball guy and the players. love him. >> And it feels like team's only going to. get better. I think we have forgot that. Elco makes his teams like Elco makes his. teams much much better year over year. his head. >> Every part of that program is better. every year since he's been there. >> That American flag though has stayed the. same size. They got. >> big one. >> They got the biggest American flag that. I have ever These guys have ever seen. I. >> the most on a stadium for sure. >> Yeah, they got a thousand around. And. the windiest game I think I've ever No.

doubt about. >> I've ever seen that game against Miami. that might have been 60 70 mph winds. actually. Do you remember that AJ on. that sideline? >> Oh yeah. Changed the whole game. I mean, people that weren't there think that the. offenses didn't play well. Like, no, they was not possible to throw the ball. in that win pretty much. >> That game day kick was kind of a. >> Yeah, that game was screwed from. he kicked better than a couple of the. kicks that were in the actual game, but. that there was no chance he was making. that. >> Shout out football gods by that was a. million dollar kicking. >> No, it kind of affected the rest of the. game. I wish they would have been able.

to turn that off and we will run that. back, but yeah, that was a windy windy. game. All right, last question for you. here, Coach Sabu. Now, coach, I know. you're at SEC media days, and we've. taught a lot of talking about the SEC, but the back-to backto back uh national. champions are from the Big 10. How do. you uh measure the SEC up against, you. know, the Ohio States, the Oregon this. year who both have everyone coming back. basically on the offensive side of the. ball, Oregon on both sides of the ball, and then even Notre Dame, those are the. top three teams right there who have a. bunch coming back. And CJ Carr was the. talk of the town after the Manning.

Passing Academy. How do you feel about. those top three teams up there? No, I I think those teams are all going. to be really good. I thought Notre Dame. was really good last year. Ohio State's. really, really good. I think the three. teams from the Big 10 that have won were. really good teams. I mean, Michigan beat. us in overtime in the playoffs. That was. a really good team three years ago. Ohio. State, really good team. Indiana last. year, really good team. Um, I don't want. you to guys think I'm a homer or. anything, but the SEC is still a good.

league. Yeah, >> of course that's good. That's good. >> That made your league the best. It just. means you had the best team in the. country. [laughter]. Doesn't mean your league is the best. SEC had five teams in the playoff. Nobody was good enough to get over the. hump. Nobody was good enough to get in. the national championship game. And I. think it's a little bit of a cultural. thing right now in college football. You. know, the Southeastern Conference has. enjoyed the fact that the Southeast.

plays great high school football and the. high school was still the center of the. community. Kids love to play and there's. a lot of good players and they all used. to grow up wanting to go to Alabama or. Georgia or Florida or Texas A&M or Texas. or wherever. Now they're going all over. the country because the culture allows. them to do that. And I don't think. that's a bad thing, but I do think that. that's helped some other conferences get. a little better, and they were already. damn good. So, I have a lot of respect.

for the Big 10. I coached in the Big 10. for 12 years, but the SEC is a pretty. damn good league, too. And, uh, if you. look at the top 24 most difficult. schedules, all 16 SEC teams are in the. top 24. And nine out of the top 10. toughest schedule comes on. >> Yeah. Who came You came up the rankings. of the schedule. Who had [laughter] it? Was it you that did that or Sanki? It. was probably Sanki. >> I get it. I know it. But [laughter]. >> it was probably Sanki that did that. Let.

me hire an independent party. Hey, you're the SEC SCES. You're you're super. uh extra stats. We need to know how. who's got the hardest schedule. Us, right? Thank you. All of them. Top 25. Yes, we're definitely doing that. And. I'm not going to even act like I don't. love the SEC. We. if you I think if you don't go to any. SEC games throughout a season, you could. certainly uh maybe say the SEC is. whatever whatever whatever and kind of. have a negative feeling to it. Once you.

experience just one of these things, holy hell, this is an entire state. festival. It it is a whole [ __ ] And. it's like the history, the tradition, the pageantry, the the teams that used. to win national championships. >> Yeah. That's all a part of it. >> Way back. >> They're still the deepest conference. coach. Just they just don't have the. best TEAMS AT THE TOP. >> OH, >> that wasn't that big of a burn. I don't. I don't [laughter] think. >> I took it as one. >> Yeah, Connor really thought that was a.

super burn. Uh I can't wait to get down. to LSU that first week. >> Yeah. >> I mean, that's months and months and. months and months of just like boiling. Like. >> you got that thing on top of it. >> Yeah. Instant pot ready to explode. started and you just kind of go, [screaming]. >> "How would you like to be Dabo going. into that?". >> Clemson's got no chance. >> Yeah. Right. So, since I've been a part. of game day, Clemson hasn't been the. Clemson that, you know, everybody. remembers. And there was a long time.

Dabau was like, I'm not doing transport. for the good of football. I'm going to. stick to it. And I think a lot of people. are like, admirable what you were doing. We like what you're doing. But just like. Pete Golden said, if you're on a highway. and there's a lane, like everybody, you. gota you got to get your ass in that. lane if that's what it's going to be. Dabo's adapted. I think Dabau feels like. he's got a good roster, a better roster. than he's had in a while. But going into. LSU, I mean, he can get 50 piece down. there. I mean, that could be a 50 piece. >> for for breakfast. I mean, that's your. first game of the season. What do you. think about Clemson? What do you think.

about Davo? Cuz I haven't got a chance. to experience I would like game day to. go to uh Death Valley down there uh in. Clemson as well and do the whole entire. thing. hasn't happened. Do we think this. year is a year where they're back or is. this just a Lane Keifin showcase for. week one? >> Uh I think we'll see if they're back. Um. I know they've got a lot of question. marks, too, whether it's quarterback and. um they've got a lot of holes to fill. I. mean, everybody thought they were going. to be, you know, the class of the town. last year and it just completely.

disintegrated on them. So, um I don't. know. It's It's I'm I'm not ready to put. my stamp on it. Uh I'd have to see it. first, but I think in that league, somebody better beat Miami because I. think, you know, Mario's got it going. down there and they got some good. players and they're physical. And the. one thing about this, you can talk about. who won the national championship and. all that, but there's not a team that. has won the national championship or. played in the national championship game.

that is not physical. I mean, people. talk about, you know, Fernando and. Indiana, but they could run the ball. They were physical. They had balance. They were physical on defense. Michigan. was physical when they beat us. And. Miami was physical last year in the. game. And Ohio State was physical when. they won. So, you better be physical. And is Clemson going to be physical. enough to to match up with those teams? I want to see that. >> Okay. We all do. And I, by the way, I'm. pulling for that boy Dabbo to be a part.

of uh relevance in college football. because he is a lightning rod, but it. just hasn't happened over the last few. years. It would be cool to experience, but I think LSU would like to get off to. a hot start, too. In that place, he's. going to be alive. Last question here is. a little bit about the NFL, but. certainly your legacy as a whole. Go. ahead, AJ. >> Coach, yeah, we got the chance to watch. John Harrell address the New York Giants. for the first time, I guess, first team. meeting starting off camp. I'm just. wondering you as a head coach, how much. time would you put into that first kind. of meeting? The first time you would. address the team maybe to start camp. We.

know I for us at least it makes a big. impression. It's like our first time. seeing it. We saw Harbaugh was very. giddy getting up there in front of the. team, but maybe when you went to Miami. or anytime you're at the new team, what. was like the prep for you when you stood. in front of that team for the first. time? >> Well, I think that's the most important. thing you do. uh because that that's the. number one thing you're trying to. establish is the culture of how we're. going to play as a team whether it's. intangibles that you want to talk about. discipline toughness you know overcoming.

adversity situational football I mean. you can you can come up with a thousand. different things but this is going to be. the culture that we play with and the. players need to understand that and then. you got to go define it for them and. then enforce it to them so that they get. it and I I think that's important. I. mean, and that first meeting to me was. the most important thing. Every year, I. mean, even after being at Alabama for 17. years, I thought that first meeting was. the most important meeting because every.

team's different and every team's a new. team, and everybody on that team's got. to buy into the principles and values of. the organization, and you got to. establish what they are, and everybody's. got to buy into that standard. >> Feels like you were pretty good at this. Yeah, I did. Yeah, it felt like it felt. like you were setting a little precedent. there for us. And by the way, this is. our first time talking to you for the. season. So, we kind of need that a. little bit. We needed that personally. I. want to let you know that. I mean, we're. all in a little bit better shape. >> than. >> going into the season. >> Absolutely.

I kind of had to be. >> He's getting married. He's getting. married this weekend, coach. >> Yeah, coach. I'm getting married. You. have any wedding advice? And send me a. Ferrari, please, as a gift. >> Congratulations. Congratulations. But let me just give you an example. I have a cup at home that says Mr. Right. Miss Terry has a cup that says. Mrs. Never wrong. So she's never going. to be wrong. Just remember that. Just.

remember, >> Mr. Yeah, you might be right, but I'm. just never wrong. [laughter] So let's go. ahead have a good time. You're the best, coach. Thank you for that. Ladies and. gentlemen, the icon college game day. Emmy award winner, I think. Right. >> Yeah, that's right. Did he win? He went. Yeah. >> Had to. >> Ladies and gentlemen, Nick Savach, >> he's the best. God, just. >> seeing his little ass up there. You know. what I mean? >> You seeing him up there? >> That that makes you That's like feeling. the weather outside yesterday. It's the.

same type of feeling. It's like, oh. yeah, we're there. >> And you saw his little He's giddy, too. you know, he he's been walking on these. golf courses, just doing this entire. thing, speaking at places, doing that. Football season comes around. That man. going into that SEC weekend, watched, I. assume, >> so much film, just locked in there. Still uses his office at the Alabama. Stadium whenever he's there because he. wants to watch film in the morning. And. it's like Dbor's got to deal with I. don't know how you. >> I don't know how you do it, AJ. Honestly, with him just sitting there,

>> how would you not just be like, "Hey, coach, how would you uh how would you. play this?" Like, how you what what do. you do here? How you going to match up. here? >> You want to come talk to him? Kind of. going through some stuff. >> I can't really get the point across. Coach, I'm trying to set the standard. Can you please uh That'd be tough. You. can't do that. >> Good morning, coach. What should I tell. him today? >> All right. I'll see you tomorrow. I'm. going to get out of here. Ted Lasso. meeting up with the owner, you know, bringing the biscuits. >> Imagine Kaylin Dbor bringing some. biscuits over to uh Coach Sabin. >> Good morning, coach. What do you think?

>> Oh, more motivation. All right. I. thought I was going to kill him today. All right, let's [laughter] go. It's. >> like Kaylin Dbor's chat GPT. Is Nick. saving up in his office. >> Go ask a question. >> Oh, what if he does have a direct line? Guys pissed. Wants. [laughter]. >> All right. Joining us now, ladies and. gentlemen, is a man who's an Emmy award. winner. >> His name is hot in the streets right. now. Hell yeah. >> As it should be, cuz he's so damn. talented. Ladies and gentlemen, never. played ball. That's been made clear, but.

he's certainly good at talking about it. Ladies and gentlemen, Peter Shreger. >> How you doing, Craig? Good to see you, brother. >> Oh, it's great to see you. That. interview was awesome, dude. Loved. watching it. >> Coach Sabin's the best, actually. Every. time we talk to him. And you know, sometimes the tech is interesting. because I think, can he hear us? Can he. not hear us? Is he waiting for us to. finish? Does he not know when we're. finished? You know, that's kind of the. first team meeting part of it all. We're. currently in the middle of that for some. of these NFL teams. For you, obviously. plugged in with the Rams. We've been. talking about Aaron Donald a lot. Let's.

stay away from that because it's kind of. overkill. We'll hit that at the end. Other storyline right now that you think. is kind of uh relevant for the NFL. season that we are currently living in. >> I think there's a couple things that are. interesting. I had a really good. interview and conversation with Liam. Cohen um on my show this week and I. thought he was really interesting. talking about this Jaguars team and I. know that's the 32nd team for some you. say Jaguars Trevor Lawrence had an. outstanding off season. Their wide.

receiver group of Jacobe Meyers and. Parker Washington and Brian Thomas and. Travis Hunter is really interesting and. that's where I'm at at this point of the. year. It's like who aren't you talking. about? You know, we could spend a lot of. time on what the Rams are doing or the. Giants have all this hype, the Cowboys. always have buzz, but there are teams. like Jacksonville and New Orleans that. really ended the season strong. And you. start looking at who is going to be that. team because Pat, last year at this. time, no one had the Seahawks, no one.

had the Patriots. Both those teams went. from not being playoff teams to going to. the Super Bowl. So, I look at teams like. the Bengals. I look at a team like the. Jaguars. I look at a team like the. Saints and it's which team's going to. have that magic rivals this year because. all 32 as we sit in camp are telling. themselves this is our year. >> I apologize for not looking at the. entirety of the NFC South's odds. I just. look at the Tampa Bay Bucks at the top. and they got to figure some stuff out of. course, but the Saints being plus 265 to.

win the NFC South, good for them because. they were in a little bit of cap hell. for a while. Whenever Kelly Mo gets. hired a couple years back, he's. basically told, "Hey, we got no. expectations to win games. There's no. reason that our roster and our setup. with draft pick should ever be able to. do anything for the next couple years. Let's go ahead and build this thing.". Kamara wants to stick around. He signs a. deal. They bring in a Chan. Obviously, Kelly Moe's offense is going to be good. I like that the sports books are seeing. the same things that T's seeing. And. I'll tell you, if the Saints are back in. contention, that place is awesome. That.

that that place is immaculate for the. NFL. Pat, they play a week four Monday. night game in New Orleans. It's the. anniversary of their game against. Atlanta post Katrina. I think that. building is going to be rocking. I hope. to be there for Monday Night Football. I'll tell you this, Tyler Shuck last. year, and I'm going to give my colleague. Lewis Ric Riddic a lot of credit cuz he. was really high on him going into the. draft, even more so than Dart and even. Cam Ward at times. And Chuck exceeded. expectations. This is a guy who had the. most wins of any of the rookie. quarterbacks. He also had the highest.

completion percentage. He also had the. highest passer rating. and he did it in. relative an like anonymous way where no. one was talking about Shuck. I thought. he might have stolen the offensive. rookie of the year award the way he. played over the last two months of the. season. This is the kind of things that. I look for when you're trying to get. hyped about a team. It's who was. ascending last year and now who's had a. full off seasonason to learn the offense. and be comfortable and be that guy. 26. years old, Tyler Shuck, you're talking. about who's going to be the MVP, who's. the dark horse.

That might be asking a lot, but you. better believe that's what they're. thinking in New Orleans, that this could. be a huge breakout year for that team. >> Shuck and Shuck, it can he became big. fans of Old Shuck last season. Really? Hey, Kelly Moe's offense going to be. good if he's got a quarterback that can. do it. Shuck certainly can. Are the New. Orleans Saints back in contention. Peter. Shreger, the man who predicted that the. Detroit Lions would not make the. playoffs last year, says maybe the. Saints are the team to watch for here. Go ahead, AJ. >> Yeah, Shregs, you're always good with. predictions, I feel like. you know, making letting us know who may be a.

breakout team, who may not have such a. great season, I guess. What are some. teams right now that we may be talking. about, you think may take a step back. and possibly are there any teams that we. aren't talking about that might take a. giant step forward? >> Oh, sher prediction time. It's early and I like to see July and I. like to see then August and I usually. like to really dig in first week of. September on this stuff. But you look at. this, I mean, when you have the Eagles. plus,600 and they lost not only AJ. Brown, but they lost Jeff Stoutland,

who's the best offensive line coach in. football. They lost their defensive. backs coach, Christian Parker, who I. think might be one of the best defensive. backs coach in all of football. He's now. the Cowboys defensive coordinator. and. you lose some guys. It's hard for me to. say, "Okay, the Eagles are going to be. just fine." I'd like to see what the. offense looks like with Shawn Manion, a. 34y old who will be calling plays for. the first time in his career. I think. that's fair. You look at some of these. other teams that the odds that they have. and you know where they're at, who's. going to take the step back, who's going.

to take the step forward. You know, I. the Bears had this unbelievable season. last year. It was this miracle ride. The. Patriots had this unbelievable. Can they. do it again when they're the hunted and. not the hunters? Those are the teams I. would circle and say, "Hey, I'm not. putting in pen. Bears, Eagles, Patriots. to just go right back to what they were. a year ago.". >> Hey, Shanks, remember the Patriots are. going to have to play real NFL teams. this year. >> Yeah. Not that all NFL teams are real. NFL teams, but it was an easy schedule. It was an easy.

>> Trust me, they hear it. They know it. And if you don't think Mike Frabel, Josh. McDaniels, and those boys are putting. that in their back pocket and really. peppering the guys with that this year, you don't know what motivates these. people. So to discredit what was an. unbelievable year, an incredible playoff. run, and a runner-up MVP season out of. that quarterback, I I think all of New. England in that building has been taking. notes and hearing that all offseason. >> Yeah, it was really loud in the. offseason as well up there, but we. assume Drake May is only going to get. better. And oh yeah, they got AJ Brown. So, uh, Kevin, that's something that's.

pretty Gillian. >> Yeah, they they they Patriots might be, uh, really doing it again. But there's a. lot of great teams. That's right. A lot. of great teams. Go ahead, Tone for Shre. >> Yes, Shregs. Over the last few weeks, uh, Aaron Rogers Instagram has provided. us with with some some feel-good. moments. He decided to skip the Tahoe. golf tournament. He took the boys from. the Steelers on the offensive side of. the ball to Big Sky Country for his last. rodeo. And then, >> or was it their last rodeo before camp? >> No, it's okay. They were smoking darts.

>> It's They were smoking darts. It was. sick. He was riding the horses. Yeah. What a fit. Absolute awesome fit. Uh and. then, you know, he put out his his. family this week on Instagram as well. So, like going into camp, feel good. stories coming out of Aaron, you know, for his last ride potentially with big. Mike McCarthy as his coach, who was his. coach for a long time in Pittsburgh. Obviously, Mike Tolman's a Hall of Fame. coach, but like it just kind of feels. like there's a a lot of good momentum. for Rogers and the Steelers going into. the season. Uh, what's your read on them. going into camp? >> The AFC North is interesting, right? You.

have three teams that have new head. coaches and new coaching staffs, including Pittsburgh, Baltimore, and of. course, Cleveland. Cincinnati returns 11. starters on offense, a coaching staff, and added all this stuff on defense. Pittsburgh's been kind of lying in the. weeds as far as what they've got. Meanwhile, they added Pitman. They added. Jamal Dean. Their rookies last year all. played pretty well when called upon. >> and yeah, and Rico Dowel can run. You. know, that is a that is a that is a. downhill runner. >> So, you look at this team and it's like,

why are they getting no buzz? Well, Rogers is 43. McCarthy, what are we. getting? I I don't know. I'm curious, but it doesn't hurt that Aaron seems to. be in the best place mentally that we've. seen in a long time. And I got to tell. you, as someone watching from afar and. knowing this is such a storyline in. Rogers's life, the fallout with his. family and the whole stuff, I don't get. into the personal lives, that was really. great. It was great. And it just shows. you that that no bridge can ever be. burned. And if he's mentally at peace.

and is ready for this last ride, which. we think it is, let's ride and let's see. what happens. >> Hell yeah. >> I would like to let a lot of people know. in my particular life, bridges can be. burned forever. [laughter] Okay. And. >> can we CAN WE BUILD BACK BRIDGES, PAT? >> In my world, no. But I am happy that in. some cases, but I am happy to see. exactly what you're seeing with Aaron. and his family and AJ. I I I'm sure AJ. has thoughts as well. I think AJ's. probably super pumped about I I think. that was a good thing for all of us to. see. Was it not AJ? >> Yeah, it's awesome. Especially Yeah. The. order to get you realize, okay, of.

course you need your family. >> And I don't know if you got a key to the. city or a day or something up there that. kind of brought this all together. He. was speaking at a city council seemingly. event of some sort award show. So. >> yeah, I know part of it was like maybe. his like high school going into like his. high school hall of fame uh like that. induction but it might have been. something like that as well. >> But in between the years whenever it is. uh all good you know that is certain. certainly an indicator for playing. football I believe. So all of these. things you know all these things are. potentially and he had his reasons for.

all it too. I think a lot of people just. blame him. It's like you listen to him. he he's got his so there had to be a lot. of reconciliation happening there. I do. believe get that out of your life. I. think it does help you professionally a. lot of people say there shits I I think. is what people say. >> Yeah. Look, the toxicity in your in your. head. It can be a race and suddenly you. could focus and not have all these. things in the back of your head and. saying I wish that AJ I didn't he didn't. do Accenture this year. He didn't do the. derby. I don't think a different off. season for Aaron because those used to. be mainstays like you know tent poles in.

his off season. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. I mean you're right. I I don't. know. I mean I think it's he's dialed. in. He's absolutely ready to roll for. this year. So, I think it's he's kind of. like here here we go. I don't know if. it's his I'm not saying it's his last. year. I know he said that, but I've. always said if he can still sling it. like he can, he goes and has a good. year. Who knows how long the dude plays. >> AJ thinks Aaron's playing till he's. probably 50 because AJ knows that Aaron. push comes to shove has to make a. decision to not play at some point and. he can still spin it and somebody he can. maybe go get another Super Bowl, maybe. do it. What else you going to do is what.

AJ's, you know, kind of theory is, right? Is that not the case that you've. been kind of looking at this? But. personal life looks better than ever for. him now. It does. I mean, I'm sure I'll get a. text from him. Oh, what are you telling. people? I'm going to play three more. years. Like, he can send that text all. he wants. Until he quits, I'm not going. to say he will. [laughter]. He can still sling. He's got the. quickest release in the game. >> All right. Also, send a text to AJ. whether or not you'll join us when we're. live from Pittsburgh Steelers training. camp on August 3rd. We will be out there. You and I might be.

able to get some information. We had a. blast there last year. It was so hot. So, >> so hot. Yeah, >> that's coming down the pipe. >> Yeah, >> that's training camp, though. That's. training camp dog days. >> That's what we need. We're going to see. Mike McCarthy's training camp for the. first time. >> Oh, yes, please. >> Cannot wait. Cannot wait just to hear. the speeches, the everything about how. the boys are handling. August 3rd will. be at Pittsburgh Steelers training camp. Cannot wait to get started. That's. sooner than it is later. That is sooner. than it is later. Con man has a question. for you. You know McCarthy's there. >> Tom would have been there for 19 years.

Yeah. McCarthy, he steps away. steps away. McCarthy gets a job. Eight, nine jobs every single year it feels. like and they're happening earlier and. earlier. Go ahead, Colin. >> Yeah, Shrekes. It feels like uh there's. a chance some of those teams you. mentioned earlier, Bengals, uh some. other of those guys might be on the hot. seat right away. And not not to say. that, you know, they're already going to. be talking about firing guys, but it. feels like there are some jobs, Zack. Taylor being the one that just comes to. the forefront of my mind where it's like. kind of a make or break year. I know he.

uh didn't get an extension just yet, but. they've talked about something like that. going into his final year, but what are. kind of the teams where you see him as, hey, they kind of have to go out and. prove something? I know the Jets, you. could probably throw them in there, but. seemingly every single move they've made. this off season, uh, seems to be the. right one. What are you thinking as far. as coaches going into this year? And. also, the taco meat looks unbelievable. coming out of your shirt, Treasure. >> I like that. It's a man. >> No, it's compliment.

>> It's a compliment. >> Come on. >> Yeah, we're hairy around here. AJ shaves. his arms because he's Jack, but we're. we're hairy around here. >> My bad. >> No, that's what we're saying. >> Apologize. >> It's good. >> What the hell? >> Um, I'll say this. They had a record. number of coaches fired last off season. There's even been a record number of. head coaches. the security and comfort. that these coaches have is as. insecure and as little as it's ever.

been. So you look at teams that have not. fought their coaches but have missed the. playoffs in multiple years and it's fair. to say hey it's time. So some of those. teams that you would mention are the. Bengals. Now I can't tell you if Mike. Brown at 92 years old is looking to, you. know, put him on the hot seat right now. or not. He's survived and there's. actually a lot of excitement about. Cincinnati. the Jets. Aaron Glenn's. going into his second year, but they. fired their entire defensive staff. They. fired their entire offensive staff. You'd say, "All right, how many chances.

do you get if it's another, you know, bad season?" I look at all of these. team. I mean, I don't put people on the. hot seat, and I'm not the one to say. that, hey, keep an eye on this one. before the season starts. But you can. connect the dots. These owners, they're. as impatient as they have ever been. And. as you see record rises out of Seattle. with a new coach, out of New England. with a new coach, Chicago, Jacksonville, I don't think these owners want to sit. on their hands and just say, "Ah, let's. finish out the contract." They're. willing to eat the cost and they're. willing to move on. So you circle those.

teams that have missed the playoffs the. last couple years. Hey, that's a bad. thing. >> What if you've missed what if you. haven't won the AFC South in 11 years? Are you all right? Are you Are you okay? You know, I I think the Colts are going. to win the Super Bowl this year. Okay. But they're [ __ ] better, man. It's. been a long time. You know, I'm. >> sound like Joe Thomas a little bit. >> We'll be celebrating the Indianapolis. Colts tomorrow. I do a little bit, but I. I got faith. Uh, as we're live from the. NFL Flag Championships. >> Oh, that's cool. You're going tomorrow. >> Yeah, we're live from there here in.

Westfield, Indiana. I think there's over. 300 teams, boys, girls, adults. Uh, competition is. >> So, it's boys 14U and then it's girls. high school, right? >> Yeah. Okay. And it's also adults and. >> you 10 U 12. >> Yeah, I think it's the whole I think we. got. >> the oldest. You say adults, they're like. 55 year olds playing. >> No, I think Ducet's going to be or I. think the pro teams I think they're. going to be there as well. This is. supposed to be a showcase of flag. football. We're going to be very. thankful um to be there. We'll talk to.

Kayn Ers tomorrow, Jackson. We'll talk. to her tomorrow about the state of the. Colts, where she's at, how they feel. Obviously, the Indianapolis Colts and. Indiana as a whole are very thankful and. lucky that we're hosting this. I got a. chance to be a part of a Super Bowl. commercial trying to launch uh girls. flag football as a high school sta uh. sport in a lot of states. So, we are. pushing this heavily especially as. McKenzie continues to be untackable. You. know, we would like her to have the. opportunity. Shrekes, we appreciate the. hell out of you, brother. Have a good. one. That's Peter Shre. >> We love you, Shregs.

All right. Uh we continue digitally as. this particular linear program ends in. Sports Center picks up in three minutes. Be a friend, tell a friend might change. your life. You're allowed to say nice. things on the internet, too. >> All right. Is Logan Paul still on the. professional team? >> You're thinking of the other one. >> We know who they are. >> No, Logan Paul was on the professional. flag team. The. >> play's going to get. >> that was the fanatics flag football. >> But yeah, one of the Pauls thinks he's. Yeah, cuz there's all the NFL athletes. are mid, so he's going to play, too. >> One of the polls, this guy was standing.

two feet from you. What? Uh, four days. ago. >> Dog Thor was right behind you, Tone. >> I don't I don't understand. I do. appreciate you read a tweet that said. that one of these idiot goofball. >> No, it came out of his mouth. >> No, I know that. But I'm saying you were. saying one of the Paul Bro like as if we. don't Jake was right here. >> You know his name. >> You know who Jake is. You know who Jake. Paul is. You know who Jake is. >> Tony Giggs. >> This guy. >> Come on. >> On that note, >> I apologize. >> I don't love what Jake said. That was. the That was the one where I'm like,

"All right, Jake. Come on. Come on. Come. on. fighting boxing. He committed his. entire life to. >> think he's gonna go out there and be a. wide out. >> Yeah. He said there's also mediocrity at. the athletic. This is actually the. fastest get into camp. Get him into I. think he should. Someone should bring. him into camp. >> Jake, everybody's running four threes. right now. Like that is kind We are kind. of at the peak of athleticism in the. history of the NFL right now. Guys are. 65 270 running 44. I just I think that. was a um that was that was the most.

egregious one I've heard out of D. In my. in mind, it was like Jay, come on. Come. on. Come on. Not the right angle here, but I do like that he's trying to get. into a camp. He's trying to put some. pads on NFL camp. And I Hey, >> I'll be pumped for it. Whatever ends up. happening. And I uh I think if you get. him on a couple teams, there'll be guys. that'll be like, I hate pads. I hate. camp. I hate hitting people and wasting. hits. But yeah, I'll [ __ ] do it, I. guess, if we have to do it. And Jake, I. think, is completely game for that. So,

I'm excited for that. But the mediocrity. and athleticism in the NFL, it's like, [laughter]. >> come on, Jake. Now is not the time to. say that. 10 years ago, 15, 20 years. ago, maybe whenever it was ground and. pound football, >> good idea. But now it's like even the. punters are dunking and kicker, you. know, like that. We're at a it's. >> everybody's pretty big. Yeah. Go watch. like a practice or a game in person. You're like, "Oh my goodness, these are. the largest humans alive and they move. faster than anybody I have seen before.". >> In college,

>> I mean, because they're a 100 deep, >> man. >> These [ __ ] It's a hunter deep of. just like the biggest, strongest, fastest I've ever seen in my life. And. then there's a couple like offensive. linemen that are walk-ons whose uh. parents are friends of the program maybe. at the back. It's just like there's a. couple like what it used to look like, you know, and then here in the front is. now a whole new era of football player. With all that being said, would love to. see Jake Ball in full pads head of. training camp. I love. >> You should ask Kaylin tomorrow. Hey, I.

got this new prospect. You should think. about that. >> Former uh professional boxer. >> He's got quick hands. >> Platinum Jaw. >> Mhm. >> He's going to sell jerseys. >> Yeah. >> More athletic pesto. >> That's right. >> Selling like that. >> More athletic Tom Pesto. >> Yep. Yep. >> Done deal. Sign him [laughter] now. >> He's back. >> Yeah, he is. He is.

>> Baron Corbin's back. >> Really? >> Yeah. >> Bishop Dyer. >> Bishop Dyer. >> No, Bishop Dyer. Very dead right now. >> Oh, no. Okay. So, he's back under the. Baron Corbin moniker. >> Actually, with that being said, Bishop. Dyer. >> Yeah. >> Dang. >> Had a great run up there in Canada. I. think did a couple worked a couple. territories. up there in Canada. did the west coast, southwest tax, ran territory down there in Florida. Went up there with the the roads was in.

Atlanta. Stopped through Ohio. Did death match up. in Massachusetts. >> Oh, hell yeah. I remember that. >> Think he took a Nick Gage at some point. Ate a. barbwire bat to the face. Bishop Guy is now dead. Bombass Baron. Corbin, arise from the ashes. like [ __ ] Jesus Christ. >> That's right.

>> Rest in peace. >> What's wrong, AJ? >> No, just how you said it. Just your. delivery. >> It's just the truth of Matt Darius. >> Got him. I got him. >> Oh. >> Oh my god. >> Oh. Hey, what's going on? >> Yeah, [clears throat]. Baron Corbin's back, baby. Bishop Dyer. dead. I uh rest in peace to Bishop Dire. We're all kind of following along. Bishop Dyer was beating people up in. different places. And then he's making. some meat like steak, lot of beef, >> whiskey, tequila. >> Oh, cigars.

>> He's still collecting skulls. >> Yeah. In the ring. >> He's back, baby. >> Well said. >> All right. It's Hey, it's great to see. Baron Corbin back in his square. >> It is. It is. >> Not that we didn't see him in other. squared circles, but it was hard to. find. >> Yeah. Now we're going to be able to see. him back in there delivering those. golden gloves, boxing all boom. His old. buddy, his old buddy out there, the guy. Oh, my there it is. Ezekiel. Him and his. whole family that was around the I. couldn't think of the name at first. You. know, when the family was around the um.

hospital bed when he was hurt, the whole. family, they all kind of had similar. They resemble each other a little bit. >> You're talking about Elias. >> Yeah. Yeah. That family. >> And then Ezekiel, >> right? Elron, >> are they still wrestling? >> I think he looked really good on Elron. Like Elron, >> that was the kid. Come on. >> It's the class of the town. >> I remember there's a grandma there. >> Yeah. Ellen. >> Yep. >> Class of the town. Was quite a drop. there by Shrekes. All right. If this. ball goes in,

>> it was. >> Oh, it's really flat. >> Okay. >> Uh-huh. Oh, sorry, Coach S. Jesus. Not Shrekes. [ __ ] That's so Coach Sab, please. He. didn't hear this. Nobody tell him. No, >> is getting his chest waxed right now. >> I mean, I would that was a comical. compliment. >> Got very weird and he made me feel bad. about it. >> Yeah, but then when he lifted it up, it. made it worse cuz there was just like. three guys stragglers going everywhere. >> Should just let it eat. >> Yeah, it was a compliment. >> You should be proud of that. You know.

what he from here done? No hair. What's. that? Leonardo DiCaprio in Wolf of Wall. Street. Correct. >> The other guys as well. >> There was a little bit of a run for that. but. >> shaved. Yes. You might think cuz my. beard I'm [laughter] really hairy all. over. >> Let's go. >> Nope. >> Oh [groaning]. [ __ ]. >> One in the box. >> All right, we're back tomorrow live from. Flag Football. >> Hell yeah. >> Hey, it's going to be chaos. >> Games start at 11, I believe, for. people. Yeah.

>> Oh, today. >> Yeah, games. I think there's games today. and then tomorrow there's games. I I I. think it's kicking off today. Maybe. check-ins today. I'm not 100% sure. But. yeah, we are uh we are excited to be. there to be honest. When it was offered. up, uh we just said yes. Like, hey, we. got a thing going on in Westfield. Will. you be a part of it? Definitely. And. then now we've gotten closer. It's like. this feels like a pretty significant. event. >> for like the future of flag football as. a whole. I think they've invited people. from everywhere. There's people from. Texas coming in. I think there's people. from California coming. I mean, it is.

>> international. New Mexico. Yeah. Like. Mexico. uh some like some South American. teams like. >> let's go for the good of all awesome. >> We're excited and thankful that we get. the opportunity to be there. We uh hope. you guys will watch if you're there. Uh. I don't know if we'll be able to see. you. I don't we have no idea how the. setup is. Just know that we'll be. talking you up. >> Right. >> There's a game happening behind us, I. think, while we talk. >> That's cool. >> That's great. Like TST almost. >> Yes. And we got a PTZ will be able to. follow along. Cannot wait to see red.

shirt just do these nasty whoopy whoopy. >> the escalator move for elevator. >> Oh yeah. Out house to penthouse. Oh my. god. Look at him changing the. >> That's the play. AJ, you know, >> your knees would have never been able to. do it. >> No. >> Oh my goodness. It's a different sport. out there how those guys can move. >> Yeah. And the NFL boys signed up for the. the fanatics flag football thing against. real flag football players and they they. learned very quickly. >> Yeah. >> Oh, it was different. Hey, your. physicality, your speed, your explosion, everything like that does not matter. here. No. Can you do this one right.

here? Can you do that? Can you do that? That's all you need to do. Can you do. that? Because if you can do that, you. can't get tackled. >> It's going to be hard. >> And then I think Luke who just tackled. just said enough. >> I'm [ __ ] sick of this. >> [ __ ] enough with the the Hurricane. Jerky [ __ ]. >> I'm gonna hit you right in your sternum, dude. I'm sick of this. >> And he did. >> And you got a penalty. >> Yep. and the flag guys stood up and. started talking [ __ ] to a Hall of Famer. >> What we do, [ __ ]. >> [ __ ] this is football, baby.

[laughter]. >> That's awesome. I think it's great for. the sport, but it is a different sport. than tackle football. And I like how. young everybody's kind of learning it. because obviously skilled players are. only going to get better and better. And. I think tackling is going to have to get. better because you got to be so precise. in it all. But I do uh fear that. >> once some of them get introduced to some. physicality, it's going to be a little. bit of a oh, I'm not doing that. cuz you. hear a lot of NBA players. I I played. football like my freshman year. I went. out there and then. >> that wasn't for me. I don't think I I.

think it wasn't for me. >> Flag does lead to a lot of that I think. But if we continue to build flag, it. won't matter, right? >> Exactly. >> Exactly. >> There's like scholarships for flag. >> Oh yeah. >> Uhhuh. >> Sure. Nebraska gave one out to a girl. quarterback. I saw her highlights this. weekend. Very impressive. >> Filthy. There was some real dot thrown. Diana Flores, is that her [snorts] name? pull. That would be a pull from. yesterday last year. >> The Mexico quarterback for one gold. Yeah. >> Diana Flores. Yes, that's her name.

She's thrown. >> Well done. >> She's a great player. I mean, this is. her right here. Diana Flores. Uh just so. you she was throwing the spots like. watching her like and then the way she. was it was what a great sport for women. to get into by the way and especially. with the interest now and I don't want. to just give gr uh credit to one person. but Taylor Swift brought a lot of women. into into football and it's like now. flag football you can go it's like come. on this is a good thing I'm excited to. be a part of it tomorrow. >> Absolutely.

I don't think it would have been for me. Flag football. I don't think it would. have been for me. Just like I don't know if my style of. just being I don't think I would have. been able to. How about you AJ? As a kid. maybe. Yeah, I guess as a kid we would. have been able to do I don't know. It. just feels like we played two hand touch. and it was just normally trying to. tackle if we're playing on the street. and then if we're on grass we're playing. actual tackle. So. >> we we did phys we had physicality in. every form of football that we had. the. the precision tackle of having to I.

don't know if I would have to be honest. I don't know if that. >> that's like what it turned into though. like in high school like in high school. summers like to get ready for the year. you would play flag football in these. all day tournaments are super fun and it. would just turn into like you know you. play a certain school and it would just. it would just be hitting. >> like we play. >> no like shoulders. >> we play seven tournaments during the. summer. I can't remember if we were. wearing flags or not though. No, I think. >> you don't wear you don't wear flags. usually and there's like you know the. seven on seven those teams you see you. see clips of them online they're.

unbelievable and I've been to a couple. of the tournaments they don't they don't. wear flags it's just that basically. there's not a whole lot of run after. catch they're playing on shortened. fields and yeah. >> it's less of like the elevator move up. and down less of that and more of like. hey I got to win my one-on-one matchup. >> and then if you just get touched it's. over now you're down right there okay. interesting. >> which I think builds bad habits. especially on the so there's going to be. some ripple effects. >> definitely I want my defenders. I want. them like coming to balance like tagging. off like it's a real thing, not just, you know, willy-nilly tapping them on.

the shoulder. >> Yeah. Cuz when tackle football happens, if that is your goal, I mean, flag. football could potentially be your goal. in this entire thing. Obviously, we've. seen uh the USA team, I think this has. been their trajectory for a long time. and they're able to do that. But if. you're flag football getting physical. football, you're you can get God out. there. You're going to have to get that. base down. You know, we ain't trying to. pluck anything. No, no, >> no. We're trying to truck some things. here. >> Mhm. >> We ain't plucking, we're trucking. >> Hell yeah. >> But the plucking could lead to good. trucking.

>> That's good. >> And that's something. >> Well said. >> Be a friend. Tell a friend something. nice. It might change your life. We're. in this thing together. AJ, anything to. say to the people? >> Nope. Not today. >> Well, AJ won't say it, but we would like. to say thank you. >> for everything you. >> do for all of us. It's been hot in the. streets, boy. They've been meaning in the tweets, but it's been nice to see all of you.

[clears throat] Team on me. Team on. three. One, two, three. Goodbye.