The Pat McAfee Show Live | Thursday August 28th 2025

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Hello beautiful people and welcome to. our humble above the thunder on this. hard edge Thursday August 28th 2025 this. program begins now. football. >> is happening tonight college football. week 1 officially kicks off and uh we. got a couple big ones 5:30 this thing. starts on ESPN as Boise State takes on. USF and then at 9:00 Eastern Time. Nebraska takes on Cincinnati in Kansas.

City at Arrowhead. Will Travis Kelce be. there? >> He went to Cincinnati. He plays at. Arrowhead. That's his If Travis Kelce's. there. >> We're not getting that far ahead. >> Let's not get that far for ball. >> Come on. >> For ball. Go to ball. >> For Travis, they're engaged. >> But not They are engaged. Have been for. a few weeks. >> Honey, you want to go see a ball game. tonight? Why not? Hey, Duke College is. coming to town. >> What do you got going on? >> I I assume Arrowhead's going to be.

electrifying. We saw the process of it. transferring from the Chief's home. stadium to the Cincinnati Nebraska host. And at one point, the paint on the end. zone looked as if Nebraska was really. getting sandbag and we should have known. that that wasn't the case. It was. obviously a process. The stadium's going. to look beautiful. And tonight, obviously, college football week one. kicks off in a huge way. That'll lead. into a massive weekend of college ball. I mean, you're talking massive matchups. early. No cupcakes, I believe, is how. it's being described by Nike. I I I.

think that is I think there is like a uh. a little bit of a run there where it's. like, hey, now college ball, they're. being incentivized to play these big. high-profile matchups early. With the. new setup of the college football. playoff, there is a strength of record, strength of win, strength of loss, when. did you lose type factor that's going to. be added back into the conversation of. who makes to the college football. playoff. So look for a lot of these big. teams, these high brands, these. high-profile operations to be colliding. on a much more regular basis, which is.

great for college ball. Now, does it. help them financially to be in these big. games? Of course. Does it help them as a. brand to be spotlighted every single. weekend? Of course. But does it help. football as a whole? Definitely. We got. Texas and Ohio State kicking off at noon. >> on Saturday. Are you not only a rematch. of the college football playoffs and a. final and everything like that, but. you're talking about Arch Manning, Heisman favorite, his first official. start as the guy. Now, I know he played. last year, but as the guy that Sarkc has. built this entire offense around, what.

are his capabilities versus what Quinn. U's capabilities were? Let Sarkeesian's. brain kind of operate with that. He's. been in E. No, Manning's been doing that. in the past. Matt Patricia, defensive. coordinator for Ohio State, has now had. to prepare for three different Mannings. He was obviously with the Patriots. He. took on Payton. He took on Eli. Now he's. got the most athletic one that he's ever. seen. This guy's tall. He moves. He's. seemingly built for the moment. How will. he and Texas look this year versus how. they look last year? And on the other. side, Ohio State's reign champs. Coach.

Ryan Days got a bunch of dogs. And that. horseshoe stadium is going to be. electrifying. What a beautiful way to. kick off this beautiful sport that is. college ball. And then obviously 9 vers4. 6 verse 10 in an old school rivalry you. know the uh Catholics versus the uh. >> the convicts. >> that is a documentary it. >> and I facetimed a notable Notre Damer. yesterday and uh he was actually. watching that documentary getting fired. up for the win caught him midw watching. a documentary. >> it was just random was yesterday.

Wednesday. >> yeah today's Thursday. >> Wednesday today is Thursday tomorrow is. Friday. >> tomorrow is and then and then It is. It. is. So, not that Yeah. Not that many. sleeps away from this. >> Which is exciting news. Yeah. FaceTime. random Notre Dame fan. Uh very famous. fan. >> Sure. >> I think I saw him wearing another school. shirt. >> What? No. >> While viewing the doc army or. >> No, in a commercial. I think I I think I.

saw. >> couple Longhorns on that shirt. >> I think I saw that. >> That was weird, wasn't it? I. acting so. acting. You got to do what you got to. do. >> But FaceTimed uh he. Shane. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yep. Yeah. FaceTime Shane. obviously. And uh he's him and his boy I. mean him and his group are taking over. everything as they should. Actual. genius. And whenever you talk about a. guy who is massive ball fan and massive.

Notre Dame fan, I facetimed him. yesterday. Random answer. shout out. answer. Very busy person. And I'm like, "What are you doing?" He's like, >> "Catholics versus convicts, dude." And. it was literally it was paused like the. meme, you know, where he shows his. phone. >> Yeah. It was literally turned to that. I'm like, "You're just watching it." He. goes, "Yeah, get jacked up for this. weekend. This is a big one." And then he. went in to break down the entire game. I. won't give away what his breakdown was, but the Notre Dame fans in Faithful, I. think, are riding a high from last year. and what this modern world is about to. be for Notre Dame. They have all the.

money, okay? They're never going to fall. out into a position where they're not. keeping up financially with anybody. else. The fact that they're an. independent operation, they collect more. money than anybody else whenever they're. successful. And Marcus Freeman is a dog. He is awesome. He's seemingly the. perfect coach for this time, this era, and definitely this school is. He is a. Catholic. I think he has 100 kids. >> Yeah. >> Okay. So, I mean, he is like the perfect. coach coach for the perfect time for. them. And it's like it's only just the. tip of the iceberg for what this college. football season's going to be. And boy, we are just a couple sleeps away from.

that. >> I know. I cannot wait. Tomorrow I will. be live in uh Columbus, Ohio alongside. AJ Hawk. We'll also have Will Howard, Vince Young. Um. >> I think coach is going to stop by. >> Okay. What coach? >> I don't want to publicly put him on a. spot like that though. >> One of them. Lou. Putting them both on. this. Coach Lou. >> Coach. Coach Lou will not be there. Lou. will not be there. >> I think we've seen enough coach. >> Yeah. I think we can put that one to bed. between those two guys. Was it the other. day or was it.

>> we butter that bread all we can? >> Yeah. And you know we understand. >> Yeah. It was a good run. >> And we never heard anything from the. other side saying don't do it. This is. just us personally acknowledging a. situation. >> Sure. >> There was the He was uh coach Ray was. really good to us. Remember he let us in. the building. >> He did. >> did the entire thing. And also uh just. chatted with him the other day. >> What what's go like what are we. >> what are we doing? >> We're cool. >> I can't wait to get to his campus. though. what they did last year during. that playoff run was outrageous. If. they're able to bottle that somehow, new.

quarterback, a lot of new players, still. got Jeremiah uh Smith, still got Caleb. DS. >> Yeah. >> Okay. So, those those two best players. on the field, uh offense and defense. when they're out there, and they're just. only getting better and stronger. Carnell Tate's still there, wide. receiver. He uh is kind of gets lost in. the entire conversation. And then who's. the tight end they got from Purdue? >> Uh Max Claire. >> Yeah. So, nobody saw him at Purdue. because Purdue is Purdue and uh that's. something. But you watch the highlights. of this guy. >> He's seemingly 6'5, 66 and moves and is.

built exactly like an NFL tight end. Now. he's on Ohio State. So, get used to. hearing this guy's name. We all think uh. uh we kid too. >> Yeah, I think this guy Oh, the running. back CJ Donaldson, he's a great running. back. Uh would probably would be an. all-American if we had to guess. So, >> he's amazing at West Virginia when they. had all those draft picks on the O line. >> Yeah. Unbelievable. and uh should have. stuck around, you know, new day. Yeah. Congrats to him. He certainly earned. whatever the paycheck is and quarterback. saying this kid can spin it. So, it's a.

weekend that's going to be packed with. great ball and uh we're lucky to be a. part of it and we're also pumped that. it's beginning. It's real football time. Let's go to the talks table at Boston. Conor at Tai Schmidt. We kind of got the. two tales, a little polar wolves on your. chest. Is that kind of offseason uh. regular season football season meeting. today like kind of clashing in the. middle? that's where you're at. What. What is the messaging behind it? >> Honestly, I don't know if there is any. messaging today. This is just long. sleeve. 50° in the morning. It's. amazing. It's football weather. Long. sleeves being back is fantastic. Maybe.

it is kind of the split, you know, the. the good and the bad that comes in. football, but we're not going to talk. about any of the bad, just the good. Uh. the amount of Irish Catholics that have. been bopping their baloney about this. quarterback for Notre Dame for the past. 5 years, I'm excited for that to finally. happen because I'm sick of hearing about. it. I I'll be completely honest. Most. people in Mass are Notre Dame fans. because it's Irish Catholic and College. Sports BC and all that. They just aren't. really relevant in the in the city. itself as a sports team. I can't wait. for the Notre Dame game just to see CJ.

Carr hopefully be the guy and maybe Carl. Beck. He comes in and the U is still the. U and they're good again. >> Yeah, Carson Beck got paid a lot of. money. We all reported on that and. talked about that and we don't know. exactly what the number was. There were. some absurd numbers being talked about. and then there were some other absurd. numbers that were just a little bit. lower. But obviously he's earned it. National champ. You can do whatever you. want to do. He his ending at Georgia. didn't seem like there was a lot of. people pissed that he ended up going to. Miami. I think they understood what the. current market is. But what if he's a. guy, you know, what what if he's a guy. down there in Miami? Cam Ward appearing.

every day. Now, we haven't seen him play. a single down of actual NFL football. yet, but appearing every single day as. being a legit leader and a guy that was. an igniter for an entire university, entire program. Will Carson Beck be able. to do the same damn thing? And will that. project him to be a number one overall. pick like it did for Cam Ward? We shall. see. So many storylines. >> ton. >> to develop so many. >> over the next 20 weeks or whatever it. is. >> I mean, there's just so much. >> I mean, it is seriously the greatest. time of year. Like we talk about how the. best weekend is like super wild card.

weekend and and stuff like that, but. this is like it's almost like a. Christmas Eve, but Christmas lasts for 3. months. >> It is good. It was like before the first. day of school. >> Yeah. Boom. >> I was brushing my teeth this morning. I. was like, "Oh, >> wait a minute. >> There's a little something." Hum. >> I do smell that. >> Your outfit outfit hanged out. You. picked out your outfit last night. >> Mhm. >> This morning, actually. Uh, another. early morning for me. >> Yeah. >> So, uh, >> Wow. Hey, >> two days in a row. >> Come on now. Go. >> Two days in a row. Two days. I was up. late, too, working on on uh on my.

computer. Sure. You know, I was uh I was. and I. >> uh I did it. I think I did it. But woke. up early, picked out the outfit for game. day, you know, because we're back into. wearing a sport coat. >> Yeah, that's right. >> Only time in my life that that happens. Literally the only time in my life that. it happens. Shout out to David Allen. You know, this is the time of year where. I remember David Allen's a guy. He's a. dog. And I I go into my closet and I. open it and I just go, what am I? Oh no, I got nothing. Then I open up a sleeve. or something. It's David Allen basically. right there. And I'm like, my dude,

thank you so much. >> I'm going to take this from three years. ago from David Allen. >> and I'm going to put this in a ball and. I'm going to take it. But yeah, it was. like exciting this morning. It really. was. There is like an electricity in the. air, especially cuz these games tonight. are a big deal. Boise State looking to. dance every single year. Nebraska third. year with Matt Rule. Are they going to. be able to go on a run in a conference. that's going to get a lot of say in who. ends up in a college football playoff? Why not some of these teams that are. playing tonight? AP Tone. >> Yeah, we we've talked a lot about the. big games, the big three, the top 10. matchups, but like there are so many.

other games this weekend, especially. tonight, that that mean something. Like. Boise is the odds on and like big. favorite to make the college football. playoff again out of the group of five. And they got to travel all the way down. to Florida. Yes, it feels good here, but. I checked it's still hot in Florida. Like they got to all the way down to. USF. A USF team that two years ago. almost, you know, that was the game. where Saving couldn't figure out who his. quarterback was and USF almost beat. Bama. Like. >> they always have speed. It feels like we. used to play them uh Big East. They were. Big East for a little bit and they were. that was when Levit was their coach. >> Yep. in the news recently.

>> when they were down there we they always. had speed like very very fast in our. team. We used to be able to just beat. everybody. Speed would potentially kind. of affect us a little bit on the zone. spread [ __ ] that we were running or. whatever. So they always gave us a tough. matchup. We're not the only ones. USF. has historically been able to match up. with people. It just like doesn't really. get talked about much because it's USF. But they can be a problem for and they. could drail or derail an entire season. for Boise. >> Yeah. Boys, you could go from the odds. on favorite to make the playoff out of. the group of five to you lose USF week.

one like that's a that's a hill you got. to climb the rest of the season. And. then Nebraska like both these games five. and a half six and a half those are. those are not like oh they're definitely. going to win this game. Nebraska loses. to Cincy week one like their playoff. hopes which they do they all think. they're going to make it this year like. both of these favorites potentially lose. tonight on short on short spreads like. that just sends the whole thing into. chaos already. >> Yeah and that's what college football. it's chaos. It's absolute chaos. Last. season was epic. >> It was the best. >> Cannot wait for this one. For all the. negative, and we bring this up a lot.

because I think it has to. For all the. negative that has kind of surrounded the. sport, all the conversation and the. worry, and I understand that there has. been a lot of history between this sport. and its fans, the sport and Dr. Pepper. I mean, Dr. Pepper has literally been. sponsored, I think, 88 years alongside. college football, but their fans are. very loyal. And it's like my father, my. father's f. >> and my father's father's fodder all sat. in this seat. We tailgated this way. We. cheered for these guys. This is how we. did it. So any change to something that.

has that much history and that much. pageantry and that much tradition is. going to scare the [ __ ] out of some. people. >> Yeah. >> And and some people when they get scared. just automatically go, I don't like it. >> Yep. >> And then they they start to attack it. Understood. Valid. completely understand. where you're coming because everybody's. worried that something that they love is. going to lose the thing about it that. they love so much. But I think what. college football has become has become. more electrifying. Like I think it has. become more exciting. Just as ball fan, NFL fan, football fan, college football.

fan. I think the games, the matchups, teams coming out of nowhere, Vanderbilt. story last year, insane. Diego Pavilla, how about the moment that they got to. have as college, as universe, as a. student section? They got to carry a. [ __ ] upright all the way down. Broadway into a river because their. football team won a game. It's like. these are magical moments that are being. created. And I think that's why college. football fans are such big fans of the. sport because it can only happen in. those uh type of environments. Those. aren't going anywhere. I don't think. those are ever going anywhere. And I. think the matchups are only going to get.

bigger and I think teams are going to. get better. I think the I think all is. going well when it comes to the product. on the field in my eyes. >> No. Yeah. I mean I agree. I think you. could argue and it's it's hard because. it was the first year of the playoff and. you know like that just added a. completely new element, but I think the. product on the field last year was as. good as it's ever been. Like we got so. many good games week in week out and if. you can get over the whole, you know, transfer portal stuff and it being kind. of hard to get grips on who's where, you. know, the first several weeks of the. season it's like, oh, I thought this guy.

played for, you know, this team, but no, he's he's at this place this year. Like. there's a lot of that, but when it. actually gets down to like the game. itself, I don't think college football's. ever been as good as it is right now. with as many good players as we have. right now. >> Yeah. Uh, you know, every once in a. while when you pay people, they they get. better. >> Yes. >> Think about the kids that have committed. on this show. Like they're professionals. already. >> I would like to thank my strength coach. >> Yes. What? >> My dietician, >> my nutritionist, >> my chef,

>> my massage therapist, >> uh my technique coach, >> obviously. Mom and mom and dad, >> and and our Lord and Savior. >> They do. Yeah. Lord and Savior, too. Jesus Christ. Thank you so much for. letting me dip and rip like this. >> You know, I've been working. But it is. they're professionals since they're. teenagers. And obviously, we'll see. long-term effects of this. Yeah. >> You know, child stars and everything. like that. Is it because the spotlight. is because the people they're around or. is it because they're forced to be. adults a lot earlier than everybody. else? the athletes are kind of having. that experience right now. They're being. forced to being adults earlier than. everybody else. We'll find out what the.

long-term effects are. But I think what. the NFL people are saying is we see much. more mature guys coming in the league. These guys already know their [ __ ] We. already know if they're going to be able. to work and handle money. We already. know how they're going to operate, how. their family's going to operate. That. used to have to happen the first couple. years in the NFL. Now it's happening in. like high school for these guys. They're. kind of going through money for the. first time, which is a whirlwind of. emotions and situations and everything. uh relationships, how you operate, what. you can do, what you can't do. First. time I got money, it was cra it was just. like you feel the weight of the world to.

want to help everybody. >> that has helped you. And it's like all. of a sudden then you got a lot of people. telling you, well, don't do that. It's. like, well, how am I supposed to look. these people in the eye when they know. >> that I can definitely help in this. situation and they've certainly helped. me. How am I supposed So you get caught. in these conflicting situations when you. become the person who is certainly the. most amount of money out of the people. that you've been around your entire. life. There's a lot of [ __ ] that comes. alongside of that. And a lot of these. guys are experiencing it now in high. school. They're experiencing in college.

So by the time they get to the NFL, all. those conflicting emotions and [ __ ] that. is kind of thrown on your plate out of. nowhere is already behind them. It's. like that's a I think that's good for. quality of game. NFL is going to benefit. from this big time for sure. >> Scouting, finding out who the right. people are. Definitely going to win in. this. College though is going to have to. deal there's going to be more of that. [ __ ] that's going to have to happen. Uh. just kind of naturally and I'll be. excited to see how we kind of weave. through that. >> Yeah. Even like when you think about the. athletes, you would assume that most.

people who you know might be between a. couple sports like a lot of great NFL. players are great NBA players, but with. the amount of money that's in the NIL. for college football, and there's a. bunch in college basketball, too, but. there's more in college football. Obviously, there's more teams, there's. more, you know, high-end programs that. can pay you a bunch of money. So you. might think like, oh shoot, you know, college football will continue to get. these better athletes cuz they might. lean to the the. >> maybe these six seven guys will put on. some weight and be tackled as opposed. to, you know. >> Yeah. But.

>> on Yeah. That the bad side of it um to. your point like the what was his name? the quarterback Marininovich where his. Todd Marinovich where you know there was. the 30 for30 on him and he he was he was. born to be an NFL his dad created him to. be an NFL QB and he was. >> but then he hated football as soon as he. got to the NFL. >> So on the flip side I would say Pton and. Eli were created to be NFL quarterbacks. and all they want to do is give back to. the game their entire life. So, you. never know. Like, humans are so. interesting and and this whole.

>> getting rich as teenagers in sports. thing is awesome, I think, for the guys, but what are the. >> joining us now? I would like to see this. dude as a teenager get handed a bunch of. money what he would have done. >> Sure. >> Fivear. >> Oh my god, those teeth would have got. fixed so much. >> Yeah, >> like that. It would have been no problem. at all. Ladies and gentlemen, uh host of. Busting with the Boys, founder of. Busting with the Boys, also uh has a dad. podcast because he is a incredibly proud. father. Obviously, he got ripped off of.

year uh 10, I believe, uh by the NFL. Supposed to be a 10-year NFL vet. Nobody. would have expected that whenever he was. coming out of Nebraska. Ladies and. gentlemen, Absolute Dog Will Comp. >> How you doing, dude? >> Hey, thank you for the introduction, boys. It's great to be here. It's game. day. We made it. >> Yes, we did. We did. That is the. overwhelming sense that we have over. here as well this morning. Brushing. teeth just felt a little different like. we got actual ball here now. I couldn't.

even imagine my like West Virginia. playing tonight would have an even I. mean that would be a perfect way to kind. of launch this. I I assume you were very. excited. Year three for rule. There's a. chance here for Nebraska to go on a run. The boys from what I'm hearing look good. over there. >> Look good, Pat. This will be I'm telling. you now, boys. I'm telling you, we got a. favorable schedule. No matter how you. think of the Huskers, this is year three. of the rule era, year two for Dylan. Rail, Dana Hogerson on the sideline full. time. This is going to be the first.

double-digit win season since Willie C. senior year in 2012. You can book it. You heard it here right now. I'm just. letting you know. I can feel it. It's in. the air and it starts tonight against. Cincinnati. >> Okay, it's in s or it's in Arrowhead, obviously. Travis Kelce gonna be there. for Cincy for we assume. We're just. assuming he's gonna be there. That's his. house. Now, if he's there, hold the. phone. Who else is there? Are you. worried about that for Nebraska? I I. mean that that feels like there is a. potentially an aura coming into.

Arrowhead that is highly swinging in. Cincinnati's favor. Have you thought. about Have you thought about that, Will? >> You know, when Trev he got engaged when. he got engaged, I texted him. I said, "Hats off to you trying to distract the. world from this ass whooping that's. coming on Thursday night." From what I'm. hearing, >> the misses won't be there. So, it won't. take over the entire world, but yes, I. am a little nervous about the aura of. Travis Kelce walking in that stadium. But again, this is about the Huskers.

This is about the Bearcats. This is. about stopping. I think it's got a. little dual threat quarterback. And I'm. telling you, it's coming tonight. I. swear to God, I can just I feel it. I. feel it. I feel it. Matt Rule can give. all the speeches he wants to give. Taylor Swift walks in there in a. Cincinnati shirt. You guys are. >> You guys are absolutely cooked now. I. like Raola. I like E Money, your running. back. I met him at a WWE event. Great. Moxy. Feels like the offensive line's.

going to be good. I'm excited for you. guys. >> Beefy. Okay, we got good beefy boys out. there. Always Nebraska shout out. Can we. talk about the announcement about you. and ESPN uh today before the boys have. their questions for you? Congratulations, man. This is an awesome. thing. Like legit, we are very happy for. you guys. How does this come about and. what does this mean, >> dude? Um it's surreal, bro. like it. still doesn't like uh Pat, I remember. talking to you like we facetimed when. Busting with the Boys kicked off and I.

you were giving me a lot of game on the. podcast world and how to operate and at. that point I want to say I was telling. you like hey I think we're going to go. through the summer with pods and then. stop during football season because you. get really nervous about how the teams. might feel being a distraction. I was. still a free agent. Do you know is this. going to keep me out of playing in the. NFL? And I just remember you telling me. you have to treat your audience like it. is your best friend. And if you're going. to show up for them once a week, you. show up for them once a week. My advice, recommendation to you, young Willy C,

would be if you're going to do it once a. week, then do it once a week throughout. the entire year or as long as you guys. can. And you're giving me game on the. merchandise and everything else. And. just to think back to that moment and. get all the way here to now we are on. the team with you at ESPN. Like this is. a true story. I pissed the bed until I. was 14 years old. And before I fell asleep, every night. before I violently wet the bed, I would. fall asleep to ESPN. ESPN nostalgically.

for everybody. ESPN is also the previous. channel when you're rocking Skinamax and. you need that fall back in case your mom. and dad walk in. It was Sports Center. and top 10. And now to get to appear on. it and to be part of the brand, it is uh. we're grateful, man. We are We are truly. fired up. Well, we're proud of you both. for stopping the pissing in the bed. problem. Once you get to 14, you think. that's probably a lifetime thing. You. know, I think that is probably a. lifetime moment and also for all the. hard work that you guys have put in. You. guys have grinded over there. Mad. respect, especially as ex players trying.

to represent four football on a platform. that you had to create. You should be. proud of yourself, man. Every time I. watched you guys, I knew you were. special. And obviously you don't have to. be a genius uh to be able to see what's. good and what isn't good, but it was. immediate upon watching you and Taylor. It's like this is a good show. You have. the juice. Taylor is such a good. smartass and super handsome and uh I I. think he's got a little bit of a a thing. with blackjack and gambling. You guys. maybe check on him, but that is I follow. along from outside looking in.

>> Hey, I I do the same thing. I just say, "Are you sure?" And he's like, "I'm. ready to go to war." I'm like, "Listen, you got to do your thing.". >> That's a lot of money, Taylor. Yeah, it's a lot of Dana is a dog. He's been. kicked out of a lot of places. You got. title, everything like that, but that's. him. I don't know. Is your brain okay? I. don't know. The luck, too, Dana. Uh, but. nonetheless, you guys have worked your. asses off. We're proud of you and we're. pumped you're going to be representing. on ESPN. Good luck out there. We're. proud of you, Will. Proud of you, buddy. >> Thank you, boys. >> No problem. All right, we got some. questions for you. Go ahead, Tone. >> Yeah, Will, you talked about stopping. Sorsby tonight and those black shirts on.

that Nebraska defense have basically. been carrying the team the last two. years. And I got no issues with the. offense with Hogerson and Raola year. two. I think they're going to be much. better. But you know, you lost your. defense coordinator Tony White. He goes. down to Florida State. You lose a couple. polar bears off that defensive line. Are. the black shirts going to be the black. shirts this year? >> Tone, that's my biggest, you know, that's that's what I'm most excited to. see tonight is how the defense is going. to perform because you're right, like. losing Tony White, not just Tony White, too, but a couple other guys on the.

defensive staff, Terrence Knight and T. Knight. uh he went with him down to. Florida State. That was a massive loss. because they have been a top 25 defense. the last couple years. But there's a lot. of optimism talking about rotations with. these young cats, guys being able to. play all across the line of scrimmage. I. believe the linebacker's name is Javin. Smith, 65, 230 lbs. I'm excited to see. him run around. We do have a veteran. group on the back end in the second in. the secondary, but that is kind of my. like I'm not worried about the offense. either. I'm just excited to see who's.

going to step up on the black shirt side. because everybody's wondering what are. they going to be like with you said at. those polar bears in the middle. So. that's what I'm looking for. >> They got any young Willie C's out there? They got some white trash kids flying. around throwing their heads in. >> You know they do. You know they do. But. you know who's going to step up and be. that? I'm I'm out here congratulating. You got John Bulock down Tampa Bay. Buccaneers undrafted. Cat walk-on to the. University of Nebraska earning his. stripes as a senior making a camp with. the Bucks and he's on the 53man roster. with Levante Davis.

>> That's what we like. That's what we. like. >> Yeah. Undrafted linebacker U is what. Nebraska is. But we'll see. We'll see. I'm excited. >> Hold on. That's not. good. Not good. Put it on a shirt. >> It's about overachieving. undrafted LBU. Nebraska. That's awesome. The black. shirt's a great nickname though for an. entire crew, you know, and it's like. seemingly always good. And then that. being the question mark, I think it's. good news if you're a Nebraska fan. Now,

let's move to the NFL. Obviously, you. should have had a uh double digit year. career and uh it's a damn shame. It's a. damn shame that all that happened. Um. >> your last year was really your best, I. think. You know, you looked your fast. You looked your fastest. >> So funny. >> You looked your fastest. So I think I. think you were right. I think maybe 11. 12 would have been in there, but you. found your true calling. Uh Ty, I have a. question for you. >> Yeah, Will, now that you are on ESPN, I'm excited to get your uh your take on. the Micah Parson situation. This would.

be your first documented one, I believe. Uh if if you're Micah and you know, you're hearing, hey, the the Packers, they want to trade for you. They got 45. per year for, you know, who know, maybe. even 50 per year. >> Who's hearing that from? just you or is. it have the pack said this? >> Listen, it's out there. It's out there. Okay. It's not just me. Uh what do what. is your take on that whole situation? Not like Shotti thinks he's, you know, maybe going to play, but he doesn't know. cuz he hasn't practiced or done anything. uh all of training camp. Jerry is kind.

of hesitant to to talk to other teams. Like how do you think that whole. situation is going to play out? >> Brother, listen. We just said we were. undrafted linebacker. you. This is a a. position and a player where I have never. been I've never gotten to experience. that world. I'm sitting on my couch. throughout the week watching this. America's Team documentary and just. seeing everything that Jerry Jones goes. through. Uh the pride that he has. I. feel like he enjoys this game that is. happening. You see my man going out. there on different podcasts. He's doing. a little press tour going out there and.

kind of peacocking and letting the young. man of Michael Parsons know they got him. for three more years. If I'm Micah, I. have no clue. like I would have too much. anxiety like uh sitting on the couch. kind of waiting for the season to. unfold, leveraging everything. Am I in. shape? Am I not in shape? Can I go? If I. wait too long and then go out there the. day of, like I'm going to have to prove. myself right and everybody else right. that what I'm doing is the right thing. And if you fail or if you get injured or. if you do anything else that isn't up to. that expectation, it's going to be.

you're proving the Cowboys and everybody. else right. I have too much anxiety. thinking about it. I have no clue what's. going to happen. I do hope Michael. Parsons gets paid because he is an. absolute dog for the Dallas Cowboys, but. I don't know. I know Jerry loves this. game is what I've gathered from what. I've watched. Jerry Jones is in the. pocket right now and this is where he. wants to be with Micah Parsons. And I. think he respects Micah. I think he. respects what Micah is doing. >> I think he probably respects him, but. he's also I don't think there's any. budging happening. You know, like the.

narrative is that the Green Bay Packers. are it, okay, and they will go. And the. 45 million thing, Tai said that very. confidently yesterday on the show and. then Schneiderman came on from the. Athletic for the Green Bay Packers. He's. like, there's an offer on the table that. is very favorable basically or there has. been, but Jerry isn't listening. The way. Tai Schmidt is turning that is Jerry. isn't ready to listen yet. Like there's. going to come a time that Jerry's going. to listen. I think they're just going to. continue to dance. Micah ends up. playing. Is that what you think the. final outcome is? I think he ends up playing. I think it,

you know, it's like this YouTube and Fox. thing going on where, hey, are we going. to get the games on Friday? Are they. going to not let us watch Baylor Auburn. on Friday night? And then all of a. sudden, somebody's hand gets pushed and. then like two hours before Ohio State. and Texas kicks off, it's going to come. to life. I think at some point it's. going to come to life. Hey Ty, I hope. it's for uh I hope it's for the Packers. because I think like there's a part of. you too that's like uh is Micah just. over the whole thing and maybe he just. wants to get out of that situation. because I I don't think the Cowboys are. going to be that great this year. I.

don't think they're going to be very. good. >> What you don't Why? You don't think. Dax's good? You don't like Shotty? You. don't think Shotty's a guy? Ebra Flu D. coordinator back where he's supposed to. be probably. >> I think there's just too much going on. as always around the Cowboys. I think. they got a lot of talent. I like uh. Floose on the defensive night on the. defensive side. I don't know how. Shotti's going to be as a head coach and. him just being in this circus right now. I just don't know how it plays out. Especially with the Commanders up north, with the Philadelphia Eagles up north, I. think they're going to both be better. than the Cowboys. >> and the Giants. Giants.

the Giants. The Giants. Giants. Absolutely. >> Forgot forgot. We got to We got to cover. all the teams. The Giants have some good. pieces out there. >> Malik Neighbors. >> They're not going to be a bunch of candy. asses this year. >> Yeah. Malik Neighbors, he can catch a. ball. >> Yeah, he can. He can catch a ball like. that from Dart. >> He's unbelievable. Shriggs came on and. was like, Terry McCorin isn't really in. Malik Neighbors tier, but he's there. It's like, what the [ __ ] Who who who. said that? Who Who is that really how. you guys feel? I did not know that's how.

Giants fans feel. It is like Malik. Neighbors is a guy. Like I'm not saying. he's not a guy. Terry McLaren was is. will be. >> Long time. >> Yeah, he been a guy. That is a guy. That. is that is a guy you're looking for. Happy they got that deal done. Trey. Hendrickson happy he got his deal done. too. The boys have been attacking Trey a. little bit. >> Yeah, >> the boys been he got 14 million more. dollars in one year and the boys were. like soft. This guy rolled over. >> because it is. >> he got 14 million more dollars. >> The whole thing you you want to know.

what it really is? It's that it started. here on the program talking to you. >> We don't have enough motion. >> We've been riding this thing from day. one rooting for him and then he [ __ ]. it all up. All all we are all we're. saying is yes 14 million for this one. year is awesome but he said that's not. what he wanted. He wanted multiple years. that was negotiation. >> He didn't want one year. >> folded like a lawn chair. >> No, he was in there fighting. >> and they they treated him like an. [ __ ] for seven months publicly.

>> They did. You know at some point these. players need to just accept the deal. that's on the table. They said that. >> They said that. >> Yeah. But he went back there golf. clothes. Y. >> shook hands, talked to the press. So I. want to be. >> and accepted the deal on the table. >> Yeah. >> No, they upped it. He got more. They. were they were offering 5 million more. I did not hear that as we. did. >> He said he said we knew. >> he won the negotiation a little bit. Definitely. >> No there. And Mike Brown said we knew.

you. >> It's like the 10th highest paid at the. end. Come here, Trey. Sorry. Sorry. This is. the thing. That's been happening off air. a lot where the first time it was. brought to. >> Yeah. So, we just brought that on air. You just saw an off air conversation. happening on air. The boys fed up with. Trey. >> Hey, Trey. Guess what? We'll see you. next year, too. >> Okay. All right. See, this is what they. did. Come on, boys. >> He got 14 million more dollars in these. guys. >> What is that?

>> He deserves 20. That's why. >> we agree. We're on I think you're doing. this from a a position of love for. correct. It always is, >> but you're attacking him pretty good. You're pretty. >> sometimes. >> Yeah, little bit. Insulting him a little. bit, but you know, it's got to be done. Trying to help him. >> What do you think about Trey Hendrickson. situation? Will, you think 14 million. more bucks for a guy is good news, or do. you think uh he definitely deserved more. and if he was maybe just a little bit. more of an [ __ ] in a couple weeks, >> it might have got accomplished, but he. just couldn't do it. He literally just.

couldn't do it. thing. again like Pat, you know, it's like this. this I'm assuming the selft talking at. this game that's going on. He was. playing it well. He was posturing. He's, you know, at OTAA's training camp, he's. standing, he's talking to the media, throwing it back at the Bengals, posturing up. And at the end of the day, once the money once they start hurting. your pockets a little bit and you start. thinking of not only hurting the. pockets, but hurting the team, like the. Bengals, if they have some sort of. defense this year, they can be nice. You. got Joe Burrow, who in my opinion,

listen, when he's healthy, he's the best. QB in the game. And when you have that. potential, you got Steelers that are. coming. You got the Ravens that are. built for success always. And when. you're just sitting there as a player, it's like there's a lot of selfishness. to where it's like you got to do what's. best for you. You got to play the game. as long as you can play the game. But. there's always that team aspect that's. just eating at your head. And at some. point, it's like, who's going to break. here? And you know, if the boys are. saying he broke, he walked in, he signed. the dotted line for 144 million more.

dollars and that's a loss, then okay, that's a good loss. That's a good way to. lose a good loss. >> That's a good day to take that. particular loss. I appreciate Will. Compton, ESPN analyst, founder of. Busting with the Boys, says Joe Burrow. is best quarterback in NFL when healthy. That is what you said there. That is. going to get out there. You believe. that? >> There's a lot there's a lot of. quarterbacks out there. I I believe Joe. Burrow definitely in the I I'm not doing. the who's the best game because that's a. nightmare for a Daily Show host, but in. the Pantheon would definitely put Joe.

Burrow up there. He got paid as such and. we all love watching him. You're you're. you just said outright though this is. the best guy in the league. Why do you. think that? And who is I guess second? Would that be Mahomes, Lamar, Josh, >> Jaylen? >> Danny Pat Danny D. >> That's a great question Pat. I like Joe. B just because you hear just everybody. talk about this, man. Whether it's. coordinators, coaches, it's like there's. no ne you're not really game planning.

Joe Burrow. You can't game plan Joe. Burrow. I want to say uh uh who is the. player that came out was like, "Oh, you. can game plan Josh Allen. You can't game. plan Joe Burrow." He wasn't like taking. a shot at Josh, but he was trying to. explain it in the way that's like, yo, when when Joe's firing, his brain, his. mind is just in a different. stratosphere. I'm not saying the other. boys aren't smart enough to play. football, Pat. I'm just saying when Joe. Burrow is operating, you see what he. does when he has zero defense, got. weapons on the outside, O line that. sometimes blocks for him, but if if they.

just if they can get in gear, Joey B is. slinging the rock better than anybody in. the league. Patrick Mahomes, he's the. baby goat. Josh Allen, he's an absolute. stud. Who is the the the reigning MVP? Lamar Jackson, multiple time MVP. They. are all. >> study. Danny D. >> Yeah, Danny Dime. Danny Dimes out in the. indie. >> Why do he left? >> But I love to say junky time, bud. Let's. do quarterback analysis. >> Just we going Lamar Jackson, Josh Allen, Patrick Miy throwing Danny Dimes on.

>> We don't know here at the Indianapolis. Colts regime, but I understand what. you're saying. That is a little. disrespectful to the other guys for what. they've accomplished thus far. I do. apologize. >> Just so you know, Will, it was it was. Joe's uh teammate Jamar Chase that said. that about the gameplay anything. I I. was going to say that, but again, once I. was in the flow, I was like, "Ah, let me. not just try and throw this name at the. wall here." Again, daily television. I. got to be on my P's and Q's out here. >> Oh, brother. So, you're always going to. be corrected, even if you're right. So, >> exactly. >> Yeah. There's nothing you can do about. it. But I appreciate that about Joe.

Burrow. I don't think a lot of people. are saying that. I I uh cuz that that. sounds like reminiscent of like Payton. Like that was Payton's thing. Like, hey, he knows what you're doing. And. brainwise, he is just so far ahead of. everybody. the amount of preparation. that it takes to get to that point that. Joey B is doing is absurd. Like that is. just how he has to operate. So I respect. that. And I don't once again I don't. think there's a lot of people going to. bat for Joe Burrow being the best. quarterback in the NFL on a regular. basis. So yeah, welcome. >> And that was a great that was a great. comparison with Pton Manning. I don't.

know how many times I lost my voice at. the lunch table in high school trying to. argue Pton Manning over Tom Brady until. it's just like I you couldn't anymore. because all the Super Bowls. But that is. that's a great comparison. You're not. you can't you're not game planning. You're not doing anything against Payton. Manning that's going to be successful. other than like you hope something works. out against that man. And I feel like. it's the same with Joe B. >> The timing was always the issue. If you. could get good jam and mess up the. timing, right? Like that was kind of. what I think Bill started doing. >> Yeah. That's when the they changed the.

rule cuz they kept crying. >> Okay. All right. Let's go. That is not. >> that's a fact. >> Listen, if you're lobbying if you're. lobbying for your team to benefit for. something and it works, >> good on you. Yeah, >> Patriots fans should not be saying. anything about people doing things to. get better as a team. >> That's we can. I mean proven witch hunt against us was. the flank gate proven. >> What about the other gate? In the other. gate and the other gate and the other. gate. >> Once again, th those were legal in terms.

of rules. >> That's why all the other people were. just like, "Hey, let's not be looking. too far.". >> Then when looked at, they're like, "Oh, but New England's doing it, so we got to. we got to do something to them. kind of. try and strike down the empire if it. lasted 20 years. >> Hey, when you're on top of the mountain. for 20 years, people are going to try to. attack you. And once again, any all. football people whenever they heard. about everything that New England did. were like, "Let's not get too crazy. Let's not be investigating too much. here. Let's move along. Let's move along. here. Well, we got to burn the tapes, right?" Okay, burn the tapes. Let's move. along. Burn the bridges. Uh let's stay. in New England, though. Obviously,

somebody you know very well. Go ahead, Con. >> Yeah. Well, you were up there in New. England. Um I I believe you were trying. to interview Vrabel. Uh, he told you no. And I also just want to pass on my uh. thoughts on it. If you didn't dawn the. logo, stay the [ __ ] out of the building, Compton. But when it comes to Vrabel as. a whole, >> you did not deserve that. >> Well, hey, look, I'm just I'm just. throwing that out there on behalf of. people who are Patriots fans in New. England. But when you're looking at. Vrabel, you know, Stretch just did a. entire interview with Ari Mirro and.

Stretch is, you know, Vable's Ernie. Adams basically about how Varel is a. football savan. He's got the McVey. recall, but you never really hear about. that, you know, publicly because Vrabel, you know, looks like a big meatthead. What can you tell us about Mike Vrabel? You you think that most people don't. know. And how do you think the Patriots. will do in his first year? >> Most people know that he's a good. [ __ ]. >> Um, yes. I would say what Vable does in. my opinion that it's a thing that like.

set him apart from other coaches that I. had played for is Ra does a great job. every week. You're going to hear three. keys come up a lot and there's three. keys on offense, there's three keys on. defense, and there's three keys on. special teams. Teams do that. Teams have. that. But the way Ray paints a picture. for how you're going to win a football. game where it feels like your back's. against the wall and everybody's. counting you out and he's throwing clips. up of your team performing it in. practice or executing in practice or.

throwback clips of yourself executing it. back in the day or stuff around the. league that says, "Hey, here's how we. are going to affect this game and here's. how we have to win this game." the way. he does that because you have a team. meeting every morning to kick off the. day. Rae does a very good job of clearly. painting the picture of how you're going. to win the football game and there's no. deviating from that. You're going to get. your ass checked every day through. practice film when you deviate from that. or when you're like doing your own. thing. This is why we say this. This is. why we say that. And he shows you in.

front of the entire team. So, what Vrave. does so well that I feel like no other. coaches like did that I played for that. you're kind of like, "Oh [ __ ] he's kind. of he's right." He gets guys motivated. this way. He paints a clear picture for. how you're going to win a football game. and then when it happens, you know, he. sits there and brags about it and talks. about, hey, this why we did this, this, why we did that, you know, 14 years. What do I know? But he is he is, man. He's a leader of men and all eyes are on. him when you're in that room and your. asshole's tight. But he paints a picture.

probably for how you're going to win a. football game. >> when he's putting his hands on people. That's a part of the whole thing, right? That's a part of the whole thing for. him. Like he has to be the alpha in the. room and and people need to know he's. the alpha. Literally, when I met him in. person for the first time at that golf. outing out in uh the American Century. thing in Tahoe, he walks through the. tent and he sees me and AJ. I just got. done walking 18 holes for the second. time in my life. The first time was the. day before. My feet were all I mean, it. was terrible. I was rather high. Yeah, I. mean that was I was on a different.

stratosphere maybe. Probably pretty. boozed up if I had to guess. We had a. good time out there. >> We were fireballing AJ. >> Oh yeah, we you just got fireballled. Yeah, he got fired. Yeah, it was a good. time. We were having a blast. He comes. walking through. You feel his aura as he. hits the tent, you know. And he just got. done walking 18 holes as well and he's. 250 260 lbs, but he's going to no sell. that. Nobody's allowed to see any. weakness. And he comes walking straight. over to us. And I see his big ass mitt. literally flying like it was a left. hook. And I'm like, "Oh, he's he's about. to check me right now. He's about to hit.

me my arm and he's going to check me." I. was tired. I was a little bit high. >> Sue me. Don't actually check. I was a. little boozed up. >> But I knew in that moment like he is. checking me right now. I flex as hard as. I can. Lean into it. And I think there's. a good stalemate right there. Right. But. he wrapped his entire hand around my. shoulder and I was like, "This guy's an. animal. This guy is an absolute animal. And like I felt like I had to like when. you're in a room with a pitbull and pit. bull get these bad rap. I have a. pitbull. Pit bulls are like the greatest. dogs of all time. But if you're around.

one of these dogs and you sense they. sense that you're scared, they're going. to mess with you. Like that's what it. is. Rabbel is very much a guy like if he. senses any. is there anything in this guy, he's. going to attack. I feel like and that is. I think that is why his leadership style. is so good. He's the guy in he's in the. locker room still. I think if I'm. watching accurately, the way he talks, the way you guys interact with him, the. way he operates, he's still player in. locker room, but he's obviously coach. and obviously in charge. Is that an. accurate depiction of his leadership.

style? Is that is that something you. think? >> Spot on. A time where you might feel. like there there could be any separation. from the locker room and a head coach. He's got the ability as the head coach. to banter with you, bust your balls, break your spirit to where you're kind. of like, "Yeah, I kind of have to listen. to him." And the dude is like, you know, I sent Stretch a screenshot when they. got that fight. >> in training camp. Yeah. >> Because you had the video and Ra just, you know, it's like coaches don't want. fighting to happen. Ra likes to act like. he doesn't.

>> Oh no. >> Oh no. >> Oh, that's a that's a bomb in there. >> You're on the bus. You're on the bus. >> Did you guys get me? Did you lose me? >> No. You said Ves likes to act like he. doesn't like the fights and then. >> Ve Yeah, Brave likes to pretend as a. coach we don't want any fights. happening. But you know, once that fight. breaks out, he's like, you just said it, a pitbull. He wants to be in the mix. He. wants to be yelling like it shouldn't. happen. But he also wants to let the. boys know at the bottom of the pile that. it's still his pile. I sent Stretch a. screenshot and like, "Hey, get him, Stretch." Cuz Stretch kind of mossed in. there and then kind of backed away. He.

wasn't about that life, but that is rape. to a tea, man. He's just got the ability. to still get on that player level. Player level with you, and he still has. that respect and leadership as a player. and also as a coach. >> Yeah. And his. >> Is he stretched back there? >> Which one? Stretch. >> Stretchy. Go to Go to the Yeah. Go to. the beginning there. He's a tall guy in. that gray shirt, white hat. Tall guy. Yeah. Gray shirt, white hat. Look at him. stepping away. >> Come on, friends. >> Come on. We can't be in the fight, man.

How about coming up bleeding? >> Yeah. >> In the entirety. It's like whole new era. up there in New England. Patriots fans. He's gone. The bus. >> The bus. Yeah, the bus. >> Might need to might need to get that. checked out. >> Mhm. might have been sharing too much. game on Fable. >> Yeah, it might have been. Excuse me. Stop talking about We got rats in the. building. Here's one right now on. >> They do have that machine up there that. shuts everything down and weather. >> Yeah, the weather. Yeah. >> Then they built a thing above it to show. everybody where it stands. >> And then they started deflating the. balls. >> No, no, no. Remember they that that was. a witch hunt in 2014. Uh when it.

happened, they started testing the balls. the next season in 2015 and they. realized, "Oh, [ __ ] When it gets cold. out, the balls they they deflate a. little.". >> Turns out science. has been saying this for a while. Yeah, but a little bit more than the others. >> Yeah. >> Joining us from the bus, ladies and. gentlemen, Will K. >> How's it going? >> Good. Did I get lost? I came back. I. don't know what happened. >> I don't know if you got lost.

>> But you just said joining us, Will. Compton. I was like, hang on. Am I. watching a replay? Is a replay about to. happen watching the boys? >> No, you were you you just lost. connection there, right? Did that happen. on your on our side? A a disconnected. screen popped up. You were gone. You You. did We lost service. Yes. >> Oh, gotcha. I was trying to break down. Stretch in that fight, but maybe the. voice didn't hear me. And then And then. the phone just hung up. >> Yeah. You. >> Yeah, that's what we're talking about. So that's why I introduced you back. You. know, you were kind of gone there.

>> I'm back. >> Yes, you are. Yes, you. Yes, you are, Will. Yes, you are. Uh, and on that. note, Will, thanks for joining us. tonight. That was awesome. Hey, very happy for. your success. Legit. Tonight, uh, you. want to pick these two games tonight? >> Nebraska. Nebraska minus 6 and a half. >> How about Boise State and USF? >> USF. >> Okay. >> I like USF as the underdog. >> Tough trip, Don. >> Okay. You think these are going to be.

high scorers or you think it's going to. be uh kind of a ky affair between these. two early in the season? Do offenses. have it figured out? >> I like points in the Husker Cincy game. Again, I think Sorsby being a dual. threat guy, he can c he could cause. problems for any defense. And again, it. being a young Nebraska defense, I don't. think he gets starts catching momentum. until the second half. Um, I like a. high-scoring game for the Husker Cincy. Boise USF don't know much about. No. Alton.

Genty is not there anymore. I feel like. Boise is just a logo and a name. going. down to South Florida and playing in. that heat. That's why I like USF. But. again, 61 and a half, that's a. high-scoring game, but that's not Look, I watch Big 10 football. I watch SEC and. I dabble in the Big 12 and ACC a little. bit, but outside of that, I ain't tuned. in to the to the Boise States of the. world. >> Well, you should. They're always good. for a reason, dude. Like, it's not. obviously Ashton Genty was a big deal, but they got a good program up there. They really love it. Chuck Pagano has I. think he lives up there, and he talks.

about the commitment to ball that they. have. So, I think Boise State's always. going to be good, especially with the. opportunity that they have now with the. college football playoff and how much. money it is. But USF out the gate is not. an easy that's not an easy week one when. you don't even know what your team is. yet. >> No, Boise basically returns everyone. including quarterback Maddox Matson. except for Ashen Genty. So, they're. project that's why they're projected to. make the playoff. But no, like going. down to USF in that heat coming from. Boise. >> in that heat out Idaho gets hot at Idaho. gets hot.

>> What' you say? USF has got some, you. know, they got the the free the. athletes. >> They they got the guys. >> they they used to when we would play. them, West Virginia would go down there. >> It was like we should beat it. In. theory, everybody thinks we're going to. beat this team. But then you look at. their Dline, they all ran like four. fives, four sixes. Like the whole D line. ran linebackers, all of them four or. better, like way before. And it's like, how is this team not like very, very, very, very, very good? And it's like,

why don't who knows about USF setup with. the funding and everything like that. >> We also know how much fun South Florida. can be. >> Yeah. Yep. >> A lot of distractions down there. >> A lot of distractions. All right. We. appreciate the hell out of you. Will. congrats on everything. You and Taylor. and the whole team over there. >> Thank you, boys. Love you. See you. Saturday. >> You too. Good luck, dude. Ladies and. gentlemen, Will Compton. >> Hey, Will. >> Big Will Compton. >> What a dog. Is. >> he going on game day? Sounds like he's. going to game day. Oh, >> that' be awesome. Is he on game day? I. >> He said, "See you Saturday. Maybe meant.

like through the tube or did he mean. watching like I see you. >> Hey the best truck D on. >> Nothing stops a rain. >> Is that an Iowa Hawkeye ram truck? >> I was going to say black and gold. Yeah, maybe they got Don on there. I think. they're trying to potentially. Iowa. I like your first thought is Iowa. I like that college ball. More of. college ball. >> More of an Iowa yellow than a Steeler. yellow. Yeah, I. >> there's a difference. Trust me.

>> Yeah, I agree. Yeah, there is a shade. I. guess you could take certainly change. it, but with that being said, nothing. stops, right? >> I didn't see the dime to be honest with. you. >> It's right above my head. >> Yep. >> They got that yellow blood slider. >> It's the best truck down the line. >> It is. >> If you need a truck and it's on the. line, the best one down there, Ram. truck. >> There's no argument there. >> Better than all the other guys. They are. better than all the other guys. >> I don't like that other truck. >> Every other truck. >> There's another truck that might say it.

can do what Ram trucks do, >> but it ain't like the other ones. >> No, >> Ram trucks are very different. >> That Ram truck would pull that other. truck backwards. >> All right, let's talk about my truck. >> That guy was in a Ram truck. >> Yes, he was. >> And that's why he was so confident. He. knew. >> Um, let's talk about some NFL news. Cam. Ward, uh, named captain season. Congratulations. >> Hell yeah. quarterback, especially with. everything that is said about Cam Ward. I think we all kind of expected this. This is cool though. This is not a. normal thing to be a rookie and to be a.

captain of a team. If you're a. quarterback, obviously the team would. hope that you would become a captain or. be a leader of men. Cam Ward seemingly. leadership is one of his best qualities. if you go back to when he was at Miami. Flipped the entire time, flipped the. entire university, flipped the entire. building. Congrats to him on becoming. the number one overall pick with a lot. of great hard ass work. Started at. Incarnate Work. >> Yep. Then he went to Washington State. >> Then he goes to Miami. Then he creates a. a a resume in college that makes him the. number one overall pick and described as.

a generational talent. If you listen to. the GM who early in the draft process. said, "You're number one overall pick. You're not going to pass over a. generational talent." I think he's also. a generational leader. I think the way. his brain operates and the way his teams. respond to him is a wonderful thing. And. I think Tennessee Titans have a chance. now. Can they become a team that is. relevant in the conversation? Because. Nashville having a good team would be. cool. >> Yeah. >> Cuz Nashville likes ball and Nashville. is also a great time. Yes. >> So them having a good team would be. great for the NFL.

>> It will. And Camward is awesome. We all. the stories about how early he gets. there in his leadership. So not. surprised he is a captain. But Foxy, can. you throw that up there cuz I have a. question about captains. Pat, there's a. lot of one stars on there below the seas. which I believe means it's the first. year being a captain. There's what, five. of them uh for this team. Do you like. that for a team that, you know, did have. the first overall pick last year, so. like, hey, maybe we do need some new. leadership in this locker room. >> Yeah, I like that. Uh, you know, they're. going with a new generation. They they. certainly need to turn the page. Callahan, the coach there for a couple. years now. He's starting to establish. his culture. These are his guys, I.

assume, that were brought in to be. leaders. So, >> yeah, I don't mind the one stars all. over the place, especially you got. Simmons up there who got into a fight. with Cam Ward. So, you know, I think. they have the pieces. They have the. city. They got a um an upgrade to the. stadium, too, right? An investment for a. stadium. So, it's like going to be so. nice. >> The Titans uniforms too are sick. I know. the Houston Texans people don't like. that. >> Mhm. But they're filthy, >> but they got great uniforms. >> and they're healthy. >> And Cam Ward seemingly very. entertaining. Once again, has not played. a single down of football. Seemingly.

very entertaining. We love it. I I hope. the Titans become a good team. >> Yeah, I mean. >> they're in the Colts division. So, >> that's what I was going to say. >> They're looking up like this in Dane. Dimes and the boys, but I mean that is. what the AFC South football is all. about. I think they're standing next to. the Colts, but I do think uh there's a. chance. What? The Colts and the Titans. are two of the healthier teams in that. division at the moment. Everyone else. has kind of already had some sort of, you know, injury. Texans for sure, Jags. So, I mean, hold the phone. What if the. Titans are? >> Yeah, the AFC South is always going to. be a dog fight. And uh now that Dime's.

in here, >> I there's problems for everybody. Let's. talk about two divisions, the AFC East. and the NFC West. They will be wearing. Nike's rivalry uh uniforms this year. They debuted on social media this. morning. Nasty set of threats. The boys are modeling. Yeah. Give me a little sexy eyes for. these new rivalry jerseys, boys. Popped.

there in front of a green screen. Let's. go ahead and take a photo with some good. lighting and showcase some sick unis. Now, anytime you put an alternate jersey. out, there's a chance everybody's going. to hate it. Okay, that is just something. that is possible in area. There's a. chance you strike gold. I think that New. England jersey is sick right there. Just. as I look at it with Drake May, I think. a couple of the others, like the Niners. jersey, I think people want to buy that. I think people get excited about the. Jets. I think the Arizona Cardinals even. have a little bit of pizzazz on their. uniforms. Anytime these happen, there's. always going to be like kind of mixed. results. But if the team sells, I don't.

know, a million of these jerseys will so. much more money. so much more money for. their business. And also, I think it. looks cool whenever it's on the field. You know, color rush used to be on. Thursday night. It was sweet. Used to be. divisional games. It was rivalry games. You know, a short week. These teams know. each other and they're going to dress. like highlighters out there. And it was. like, wow, this is different. This is a. little bit of sauce. There was throwback. uniforms and alternate uniforms became. the conversation. I like whenever they. do this. I think whenever you do too. many though, it's a little bit of. exploitation of your fan base.

>> Yeah, for sure. >> You know, but I think whenever you do it. a couple times, I like it. I don't mind. >> I like the themes to this one, too. Obviously, Buffalo, you got the snow. In. New England, you got the nor easter. coming off the off the ocean. >> Stafford, you got Gotham. >> Yeah. Arizona, you have the sand, little. bit of bits of dust of sand, which is. huge sandtorm rolled through the other. day. So, there's those unique intricacy. intricacies that you got to love. >> Yeah. I like the artistry you're saying. from these. What's interesting is I I. just assumed it was, you know, the two. light colored teams were playing, you. know, the two dark colored jersey teams,

but the Bills and Pats are wearing those. jerseys against each other. Like those. are the which I think is interesting as. well. >> No, they they'll make sure that there. ain't no confusion on who's on little. light blue and white. I just, you know, >> well, how the photos look versus how. they are in real life to a whole. another, >> you know, because what's the lighting. like in the studio where they're taking. the photosy? Obviously, it's cold as. ice. Mhm. >> Willing to sacrifice 500 bucks probably. for this jersey. >> That's the thing. That's the thing is.

now listen if you're I'm not really a. jersey guy. If you are, >> good on you. You will be spending. $499.99 for that tackle twill jersey. I. just I don't want to say we've jumped. the shark on some of these ones. >> What? >> A lot of these. >> that one's do a dolphin dolphin. >> Come on, man. >> Under the sea. That's just [ __ ] good. Under the sea from the death like that. one like the Seahawks one looks like I. don't know is it got like Seahawk talons. slicing open the jersey. There's just a. lot of goofy [ __ ] on these and I get.

it. I get it. If you're a 12-year-old. boy that's all you're asking for for. Christmas. >> That's sick. >> So I understand. >> See that's awesome. >> The Jets have the Master Sergeant Halo 3. green man Es. Jets. Jets Jets. Oh, >> that's actually the first thing I said. >> J E D J J J J J J J J J J J J J J J J J. J J J J J J J J J J J J J J J J J J J J. J J J J Hope Hope Firemanette has a. great season this year. >> Yeah, I I hope they still put him on the. jumbotron cuz right on the street is up.

there in New York cuz they're with. Fireman. >> No, I hope not. >> Let's get to a break on the other side. We got a great They'll never will be. We. got AJ Hawk joining us. We'll be I'll be. with him live tomorrow in Ohio. Uh, can't wait to get out there and. celebrate the hell out of Lee Corso's. last game and also the kickoff of. another monster college football season. We'll have uh Michael Lombardi, general. manager of the UNCC Tar Hills and head. coach of West Virginia, Rich Rodriguez. Join us in the next hour. Be friend, tell friends something nice about change. their life. We'll see you on the other. side. Cheers.

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on this hard edge Thursday August 28th. 2025 hour two of the program begins now. football. >> is the greatest huge night of college. football as week one of the season. officially kicks off this evening at. 5:30 p.m. Eastern time on ESPN as Boise. State takes on USF and then Nebraska. will take on Cincinnati on 900 p.m. on. ESPN. There's like 20 other games taking. place. We are officially a football. season and we are acting accordingly. We.

are in great moods. This is the time. that we have fought all off season for. This is the time that we look forward to. all year since the Super Bowl ended. This is the day that we want in our. lives. This is the morning where we take. a dump and it's a smooth dump. There's. no wipes. >> Yeah. All in one. This is the morning. the the first sip of coffee or water is. the perfect kind of temperature or. mixture. This is the morning where. you're brushing your teeth and it's. tickling your nose hairs and it's it. just is enlightening you into a sense of.

absolute pure joy and happiness because. tonight we have a sport that is better. than every other sport on earth and. storylines developing that'll continue. and carry all the way into January. This. is a great time to be alive and we are. thankful you're allowing us to do this. for a living. the toxic tables here at. Boston Connor and at Tai Schmidt. Iowa. with Granowi might be the year. >> Hey, it could be. Listen, I'm actually. very excited to see what the Big 10 will. be like kind of in that second layer. We. all know what, you know, Ohio State and. Oregon and Penn State are going to look.

like, but a lot of people think that. there is a chance that the Big 10 gets. four teams into the playoff this year. So, teams like Nebraska, who everyone's. kind of hot to trot, especially with the. Matt Rule in his thirdyear deal, hey, this team's got a favorable schedule. This could be setting up for them to get. in. I think Iowa's the same way. I think. if everything goes right for both. Nebraska and Iowa, the game they play. each other could be like an eliminator. to get into the playoffs. >> Let's go to one half of the hammer. Cowboys AP tone. Indiana ranked 20th. right there. Sig had to do a big. overhaul yet again. He just wins. And.

that is literally what Google will tell. you and your eyes if you watch any team. that he plays. Is Indiana have a shot. doing what they did again last year? Yeah, if their quarterback works out, uh, if the quarterback situation works. out again like it did last year, they. bring in Francisco Mendoza from, uh, Cal. who was really good there last year. But. on the defensive side, they have a first. team all Big 10 guy at DTackle, at. linebacker, and the secondary. So, they. have all the all three levels, B. >> Yeah. And they reloaded uh with a couple. Notre Dame linemen on the offensive. line. So, Sig has reloaded. I don't know. if IU is that something you could say in.

the past, but it feels like Sig has. reloaded. They do have a chance. Their. schedule is a bit harder this year. Well, last year a lot of people talked. about their schedule and they said, "We. play who we what do you want to say? We. played who we played.". >> You know, a couple special teams. mistakes against Ohio State that game is. a little bit different for sure. You. know, that's what Signetti is definitely. telling the boys, too, as they go into. this season. What an incredible. motivator and coach. I've enjoyed. getting to know him as I've enjoyed. getting to know the entire college. football landscape as I was baptized. through at College Game Day three years. ago. cannot wait to get over to. Columbus, Ohio, the home of a college. football national champion,

a Super Bowl champion, a Rder Cup. winner, >> and a man who's currently in the middle. of a new haircut. Ladies and gentlemen, AJ Hawk, >> we're in the middle of it. We're doing. it right now. >> What's up? Hey, what's the normal age to. stop pee in the bed at night? You know, >> 14 seems way too old. I I don't know. >> I mean, when you you pee in the bed, you. can almost have your temps and drive. with your parents in the car like that. I don't know. Your temps. >> Temp temporary license. Yeah, temps is. very easy. >> You don't call it temps. 15 and a half. You get your temps. >> I What? For like farm trucks and stuff.

>> No, you when you turn 15 and a half, you. take a little written test. You get your. temps. We call it our permit. >> Permit. Temps is much permit. Your. license. >> No, your license is your license. Yeah. Yeah. That's the. >> That's Ohio. Okay. >> You I guess the permit permits you to. drive. Is that how you guys view it? As. opposed to a license. >> Permit. What are we 100 years old? It. sounds like an old formal term. That's. what. >> Well, you're calling it temps. I I mean, there. >> tomato tomato. We're good. >> No, I think temps is a much better word. >> Some people call it a permit.

>> There you go. >> I would not permit anybody to do that. here on this particular program. But. with that being said, 14 feels a little. bit too old to be peeing the bed. Who. would have thought that that guy would. go on to have an a nine-year NFL career? And now he's an ESPN analyst. >> That's right. Hell yeah. >> And uh we're pumped for him. We can't. wait to watch him this football season. It's going to be a great one. You just. talked about it. We're pumped. College. football's here tonight. What are you. looking forward to, brother? >> I tell you what, USF I know people are. are trying to say what what is it? Five. and a half. They're dogs, I believe, against Boise. I think that's a uh.

that's a test deal to win. I don't I'm. not uh I'm not scared of of UCF on this. one. Alex Gooish is is the coach. He was. actually at Ohio State my uh senior. year, like junior and senior year. The. guy was uh like student just breaking. into the coaching world. I've watched. his whole path, so I have a lot of. respect for what he does. But I mean, Nebraska UC that's going to be awesome. at Arrowhead, it's going to be an. awesome environment. Andy Reid welcoming. them yesterday was really sweet. You. know, there's photos like Matt Rule and. Andy Reid talking. There's a lot of, >> you know, great history obviously in. that stadium. Tonight they'll kick off a. college football season. Can't wait to.

watch. There's also other games. There's. like 20 other games. I think ECU is. playing um. >> NC State up. >> NC State. Yeah. Right there in the. middle. That's a huge game. I mean, NC. State every year potentially a. conversation piece. >> Mhm. >> Favored by 13 and a half at home. >> Okay. Yeah. >> Here we go. Here we go. You can get you. can you can. >> ECU can get it how you want it right. here. You know, this is a great start. >> Listen, there's we've been talking this. week Ohio Ruckers, Buffalo, Minnesota, and Miami, of Ohio at Wisconsin. Those. are three MAC teams versus three middle.

of the road Big 10 projected teams this. year. There's a chance one of those MAC. teams gets one of them boys tonight. >> Yeah, I don't think the books are. showing enough respect for the smaller. tier teams, especially in the modern NIL. world. You know, some of these schools, I I don't know what Ohio's exact setup. is, but if they just have a couple. hundred,000 from donors, you can get. good players in certain positions. And. if you get good players in certain. positions and you have like good fill. guys everywhere else, you could steal a. win against a team. Any team like that. can happen. Let alone week one where. nobody has a clue what they're going to. be. Nobody. Everybody thinks what their.

team is, but until you actually get out. there, you don't know. It's like. >> 13 and a half's a lot of points. 15 and. a half is a lot of points for week one. Now granted, I know that's a lot of. respect for uh Ruckers and for NC State. and everything like that. 17 and a half. up there. Like that those are. >> that's a lot. >> that's a lot of points for week one. college football game in my eyes. I am. not saying. >> that this is what you should spend your. hard-earned money on. I'm just saying. when I look at that, I think the sports. books are thinking that there's going to. be some blowouts here tonight. And in my. eyes, first week of college, who knows?

>> There's always one. There's always at. least one. There's probably going to be. multiple this weekend where someone big, you know, gets upset in in in that. But, you know, those Mountaineers better be. watching that Ohio and Ruckers game. tonight cuz I believe Mountaineers go to. Athens, Ohio in week two. >> Yeah. And don't you worry about that. >> Uhoh. >> Okay. Yeah. We'll thank the Shano man. >> Sure. >> Okay. Shouts, pardon my take, for giving. us a blueprint on what we need to do. week two. We'll certainly watch that. the Mountaineers. We'll be talking to. this man, head coach Rich Rodriguez here.

in about 20 minutes or so. Can't wait to. catch up with him. He There was a stat. that just dropped about the amount of. starts uh from the players that he. transferred in. We have the most amount. of starts uh that transfers uh in the. entire power four conference. This from. Max Olsen. So, West Virginia, we have uh. 51 transfers that have a combined 462. starts of experience. A lot of seniors, 35 of them, I think. 32,000 snaps. right. underneath there. Virginia in the ACC, only 31 transfers, but 447 starts. A lot.

of football played by not that many. guys. So, you're thinking this is kind. of the Indiana role. Indiana got a lot. of transfers that had a lot of starts, a. lot of wins from smaller divisions. Hungry dogs, if you will. Hey, let's go. try to flip this [ __ ] at the highest. level. They make the playoffs. Okay, that was an insane run. Now, you're. seeing West Virginia. Rich Rodrod's. going to have to bring in a lot of. veterans who have been through his type. of style [ __ ] before as he's trying to. change the culture. But I assume he also. thinks you got to win early and the way. to do that is with players that have won.

before. >> Yeah. And this is the uh potentially the. blueprint now after IU last year. So. let's look at it. West Virginia new. coach. Uh Virginia new thirdyear coach. Purdue new coach. Arizona second year. coach. Houston second year coach. Wake. Forest first year coach. Colorado Prime. loves the portal. And then North. Carolina new coach. Like these are all a. lot of programs with new coaches. bringing in guys. And on that note, North Carolina has a general manager. That general manager happens to be front. of the program. Ladies and gentlemen, joining us now live from Chapel Hill. where we will be I will be Monday night.

for a kickoff show. We'll be off on. Labor Day, but I will be a part of a. kickoff show for their first game of the. season against TCU. Uh, ladies and. gentlemen, multiple times Super Bowl. champion, author, TED talker, um, podcast host, live show host, email. newsletter founder, >> and now general manager of the North. Carolina Tar Hills football team. Ladies. and gentlemen, Pyano, Michael Lombardi. >> Hello, Pat. It's so good to be back. It's so good to be back with you again, Pat. >> Mambbo, I know you're in a cave right. now, probably watching film. Uh, we.

appreciate you joining us. Uh, money. We. know you've been we know you've been. working uh your ass off down there. How. has it been? Now we have full offseason, regular season right around the corner. You're all the way back into ball. Is. this as awesome as you thought it was. going to be? And when you were doing. media, was these were these the days you. were yearning for? How do you feel going. into the season? >> Well, I mean, I'm a little disappointed. I missed the Kelsey Taylor Swift. announcement being in the media. I'll. admit that to you. You know, I mean I I. mean that that was a big day. But other.

than that, I couldn't be happier. I. mean, this is what I was wanted to do. since I was 11 years old. And I'm. delighted to do it with the greatest. coach of all time and at one of the. greatest universities, public. universities. So, I I I'm really living. out a dream late in my life. I'm happy. Uh we've got a lot of people working. really hard on what we're doing. Our. coaches, our support staff, our. recruiting is going well. So, look, it's. it's all coming together, but we're. building a process, and that takes time,

and we're building a foundation for. sustainable success, and they just don't. do that overnight, and it takes time, but we've got players that have bought. in completely. I think you'll feel that, Pat, when you come down here Monday. night. I think everybody's bought into. coach's program. They love what we're. doing, and now we've just got to be. build confidence without evidence. We. got to go out there and build that. confidence. >> Jerome wasn't built in a day. He said he. can't do this overnight in changing an. entire culture and trying to build your. process. We just had that stat up from. Max Olsson. A great stat here, by the. way, and Olson makes West Virginia look.

good. So, I love that. Uh, anytime that. happens, I'm going to get excited. But. you guys are on that list, top 10. Obviously, it's a lot of new coaches, new situations. We got to turn it over. 39 transfers who have 308 starts. Was. that something you guys were looking for. whenever you were trying to get out of. the portal? We wanted guys who played. football, a certain style of football. How do you kind of get to this point of. being in top 10 in this particular stat? Well, I mean, look, the the the high. school recruiting is the draft, right? Anybody who tells you the draft is going. to impact your team greatly really. doesn't understand the draft. The draft.

is always about in the NFL next year's. team, right? Like, we all should be. talking about the Packers draft from. 2024, not their 25 draft or the Raiders. draft from 24, not 25. Some guys will. make an impact. There's no question. But. the real mark of a draft is what happens. in the second year for the player. As. coach Walsh used to say repeatedly to. everybody, the first year we teach the. players the system. The second year we. develop the skills within the system. And so the the high school recruiting is. for next year's team. Will we get some.

production out of some kids we. recruited? Yes. But the free agency is. essentially the transfer portal. And. that's where you have to plug plug and. play. You've got to sign guys. We've. signed Gio Lopez from South Alabama when. he entered the portal and now he's going. to be our starting quarterback on Monday. night. He started two years at South. Alabama. Now he's going to start for us. here at North Carolina. So those are the. things that you have to solve your. problems with. And having not had a. recruiting base here at North Carolina. when Bill and I arrived on the 14th of.

December, you know, high school. recruiting was essentially done. So. we're going to have to thankfully we had. a spring portal to add a lot of players. to our roster. >> What is the conversations like? We knew. that uh Bill Bich would be quite an. advantage you would think for certain. players in the recruiting. What has it. been like now for the players that have. got on there? Have you noticed that? You. said he got full buy in. Is that. strictly because it's Bill or how has. Bill been coaching these college kids. versus how he talks to the. professionals? Is it a different side of. him? >> No, it's exactly the same. And I think.

what they're amazed by is his knowledge. of the game. I think they all walk out. of the meeting room saying, "I I've. never heard anything like that." I've. had coaches, assistant coaches come up. to me and say, you know, I've worked for. some really great coaches and I've never. heard what I just heard in that room. So, I think he he really, you know, he. he's able to use his knowledge, his. intellectual ability, the way he sees. the game, which is vastly different than. a lot of people see the game and being. able to transform that into a message. for them to all understand. The best. part, Pat, is when you walk on the.

campus, you know, I'm here at the. football facility. We're in the stadium, but we practice about a half a mile away. at our indoor. And when you walk, you. have to walk through campus to get. there. The best part is when I'm walking. with them and the students are walking. by and they like, "Is that Bellich?". Wait, they're stunned. They're like, they want to say something, right? They. want, but then he's gone too fast. So, they've gone by and they're like, "You. could just hear like. >> he said that when we were in Detroit.". >> It was awesome. Some We were at a. steakhouse. Somebody was like uh he.

walked past him. Yep. >> And the guy tried to stop him was like, "Coach, can I No, thank you.". >> If he would if he would have caught him. though, I think if he would have caught. him beforehand, I think he would have. took the photo. But he's almost like, "You missed it. This is not We are now. down the street. This is how it goes.". Like the amount of people that recognize. Bill Bich. >> I think that was He's mear. >> He really is. I couldn't even imagine. him on that campus, especially with how. much you guys have given back to the. university. Feels like you guys love. being there. Always have. Go ahead, AJ.

Lombo, when you look what's going on, when you look around like around college. football right now, how do we Does. anybody know what kind of team they. have? I mean, you know what you had in. camp and everything, but until you go. out there and you actually play a real. game? I I guess how much can you learn. from that first game of how much your. guys can handle, how much they can't, and how you can actually coach and kind. of, you know, move things around. compared to the NFL game. >> It's really hard for me. I don't know. who we are. I I I mean I know who we are. in terms of us against us, but that's. the hard part. You know, when you have.

training camp and you practice, you. know, 10 days and then you have those. preseason games, you get an idea. You're. able to judge your team a little bit. You know what you have. This is really. foreign to me. Not having any practices. against some other team and you know. what does the speed of the game going to. look like. We're playing a TCU team that. won six of their last seven games. They're very effective. Josh Hoover, their quarterback, is outstanding. He's. got a high percentage of completion. They don't have negative plays. Sunonny. Dykes has done a tremendous job since. he's been at TCU. So, you know, you know.

the history of TCU. You know what they. did in their game, but you just don't. know what they've added and how they've. changed their team. And that's always a. little bit concerning as you go into it. But like Bellich says all the time, the. first quarter is for assessment in any. football game. You've got to assess what. they are. And I think that's what we'll. have to do in this game as well. >> Is he treating it the same game plan? Um, no. You don't have to tell me. But. like the Patriots always had like three. game plans, you know, like that was. always the thing. I assume he's just. coaching the same exact way from what.

you said. >> Exact. He's exactly the same way. I. mean, look, we one thing about college. is, you know, you're not going to. change. Dave, Josh Hoover's been a very. good player for them. And Kendall. Briers, our offensive coordinator, has. done a very good job. I mean, this is a. team that was 25th in the nation. They. score a lot of points. They run a lot of. plays. They they do a good job of. keeping their defense off the field. They're very good at playing from in. front, which is an essential quality to. winning any football game on any level. So, we know what to expect from them. They have a great job of turning short.

passes into long games. You've got to. tackle really well. But for us, it's. about really how do we play? We can't. have bad plays. We can't have false. starts. We can't make mistakes because. we've got to be able to have 70 plays in. this game. We can't if we have 50 plays. in the game, TCU will score points. P1 matters. First play matters more. Especially going against one of those. teams. If you don't get any yardage on. first down to the first pos, you're in. trouble. I mean, it is cuz then that's.

probably three and out. They're getting. the ball back and they are just. >> and your defense gets no time and then. you're back at it. You got to slow them. down, Mike. You got to slow them down. Hope you're able to do it. TCU team very. efficient. Let's talk about the team. that you haven't you've been able to. get. Go ahead, Tone. >> Yeah, Lombo. I I do want to talk about. that. I want to talk about how many. times uh have you called Michael Jordan. for NIL money. Is that something that. you're uh allowed to do since I assume. he's probably one of your biggest. biggest donors? And then also like with. the NIL and the situation and the.

revenue sharing coming down the line. I. don't it hasn't fully passed yet or. whatever, but are have you started. preparing for a situation where you know. it's going to be hey you get so much. money for your team and then on the. other side they could get the NIL. Well, the NIL they've kind of the rules about. NIL go and you have to process that. As. for Michael Jordan, look what Michael. Jordan's presence is more important than. is than opening up his bill fault. Michael Jordan involved with our program. is what it matters. I mean, I have three.

jerseys in my office, right? I mean, I'm. in the football office. I hung three. jerseys on the wall here. Julius. Peppers, the great Lawrence Taylor, and. Michael Jordan. I mean, that's who this. that's who we are. And I think to me, him wanting to be involved, him wanting. to give us the Jordan brand, which I. wear every single day, that's really. important because no matter how long. he's been away from the game, the kids. know Michael Jordan. They know the logo. and he has a tremendous impact on them.

And so financially, to me, that's more. important than that. You know, sometimes. you have to you understand the value of. what a donor brings to the table. And. sometimes it's just not always cash. >> Yeah. Michael Jordan's presence. certainly good. Um, cash also. >> also helps. >> Just just saying in sports, uh, I got. this text from Hembo while we were. talking. Uh, shout out to Hembo, master. statistician. Uh, the Patriots had won. seven playoff games in 40 seasons before. Bill Bich arrived in 2000. They were a.

UNCC equivalent is what Hembo is saying. like uh what Bill Bich was able to turn. New England into, which I think he. should get a lot of credit for and. everything that he's been able to do. He. should. >> Yeah. He wasn't making pizzas in spite. of what some people think he was doing. up there. Like he wasn't the chef up. there in New England. I mean, I know. there's been documentaries and books. written about he was basically working. in the background. Short order cook. Yeah, I got all that. Yeah. I mean, like at some point, you. know, Yeah. Hey, I'll have two eggs over.

easy, Bill. And by the way, we'll take. care of the game. Don't worry about it. Right. >> Yeah. On that note, Conor has a question. for you. >> That was awesome. Um, as a Patriots fan, of course, what Bill said, you know, was. interesting about how, you know, the. difference in coaching in college. It's. all football. There's no owner. There's. no owner's son. Personally, and I think. most pack Patriots fans feel this way, Bill should take as many shots for as. long as he wants after that Apple TV. Dynasty documentary. So, I'm glad he's. getting stuff like this in, especially.

because of how um the whole entire thing. ended and how it went last year. But to. your point right there, what you said. that first year or to Hemboat rather, that first year in New England, you. know, it didn't go great. And then the. year, I think they went six and 11 or. five and 11 and the year after they won. the Super Bowl. And when it comes to. expectations for, you know, Bill Bich. coach teams, aside from that one, typically every single year it was a. Super Bowl. as far as like the team. expectations from, you know, Bill's. point of view, from your point of view,

obviously it's the first year, you got. to continue to grow, but when it comes. to this year, I is the biggest goal, you. know, the finding out who you are to, you know, what you were saying when it. comes to the game is the biggest goal. just seeing development in freshman like. what is the mindset um coming from Bill. and yourself when it's college versus. the NFL when winning is the only thing. that matters? You know, look, everybody. wants to win games and that's great, but. sometimes winning can be a little bit of. a of a misleading instrument where, you. know, some teams win their first year.

and then they come back and they're not. able to duplicate the winning because. they haven't built the right foundation. and then all of a sudden it becomes. problematic. I I think for us it's about. getting better every single day. Look, the challenges that await us. We. understand that and we understand. winning is part of of the job that we've. signed up for. It's a great job, but. winning comes with it. But I think we. have to lay the foundation and the. process in place. We just can't assume. we're going to go out and win. I mean, Nick Sabin was what, seven and six his. first season at Alabama. I mean, we've. had many phone calls with Nick talking.

about what happened in his first year. It took him some time. Now, he didn't. have the portal, right, to help him out. when he was at Alabama. But what he did. the next year in that recruiting class, it was High Tower, it was Julio Jones, it was some really good Mark uh you know. uh the Mark Ingram, there was some great. players that he recruited that started. his program in the right direction. And. I think that's something that we have to. do. We have to be very sustainable in. our approach and that's always been. Bill's I mean look, let's face it, Connor, you know better than anybody.

The Patriots, and I don't mean this as a. knock towards anybody in the. organization, they never were in the top. five of spending in New England. never. They've always maintained a a certain. balance with their salary cap and their. building of their team because they. wanted sustainable success. And that's. because of the head coach. >> I uh I appreciate that Bill is. committing this much to North Carolina. Cuz to build an entire program is going. to take a few years. Like that's a long. time. Everybody was assuming this was. going to be a one year, two-year thing, especially because where he is in his.

life. Seems like he has started a new. chapter. You know, there's a lot of. noise outside of football up there for. Bill. You know that. >> Yeah. I mean, it's not in the building. So, that's the one thing that I I can. honestly say unequivocally. Our players. have said that, too. That noise. And I. haven't seen any any part of Bill's work. ethic slowing down. I think it's the. fact it's increased. It's it's it's. remarkable. I mean, it's remarkable how. and the attention to detail hasn't. slipped away. and he's involved in every.

single facet of our I don't think. they've had a coach here and I don't. mean this disrespectful towards M Brown. or any coach who's been here but I don't. think they've had a coach our players. have had a coach some coming from the. portal some being here that have coached. all three phases like Bill does I mean. Bill's out there coaching the block punt. team and so like he's involved and so. that's part of what we sell you're going. to get a coach who's not going to be a. situational game manager or call plays. you're getting a head coach. >> e twirling that whistle every video.

He'll be down at the punt team and then. next you'll see him twirling that thing. talking [ __ ] to some defensive guy and. then he goes over to the offense. You. can't do that. You just can't with the. whistle twirl. What just like a coach's. life he's lived. He loves ball. I think. that is very very evident as do you. I. can't wait to see what you do with the. college version of it all. Tai has a. question about the professional version. >> Yeah. Lombo, when you look at the Micah. Parson situation, if you were the. Cowboys GM or you were Jerry Jones and,

you know, I don't know how much you've. seen of all of that with, you know, getting ready for the game on Monday, but, you know, all the trade rumors, they're saying Green Bay is interested. They have a contract ready for him, all. that kind of stuff. Um, yeah, Jerry and. Micah had the handshake deal. that. that's been made, you know, a big topic. of conversation, obviously cuz things. don't really get done like that anymore. when you're talking about hundreds of. millions of dollars. But if you were in. that situation and you were doing all. that negotiating and you had to make a. decision, uh what would you do and how. do you think this ultimately plays out?

>> Look, look, it's hard to find Micah. Parsons, okay? Guys that change the. game, he's a Tuesday player, right? And. I wrote about this in my book, Football. Done Right. Tuesday players are the. players that you have to worry about on. Tuesday in a game plan meeting, right? And those players on Tuesday go into the. Hall of Fame. I mean, that's what they. are. You're sitting there, you're. driving to the stadium Sunday morning. and all you're thinking about is how am. I going to block Parsons? How am I going. to handle him in protection? What am I. going to do? He's the game plan set up.

for him. You know, Pat, you had Dwight. Freeny. When he went out of the game, we're taking shots down the field, right? When he's in the game, we can't. do this, this, and this. That's a Hall. of Fame player. And I think that's what. Parsons is as well. Now, to me, you. know, Jerry has always been late to sign. guys. And because of his ability to talk. and to convince players, I mean, look, we're in an age now where I can't have a. meeting with a player here at North. Carolina without someone else in the. room so we can validate exactly what.

happened because I don't want to play. the I said, you said, she said, he said. I don't want to play that game. And I. think you got to be very careful about. that, especially when it comes to your. locker room. So, look, Jerry's found a. way to get through it with Dak Prescott. He's not done it. He's been late to the. party to sign him. And now he's at $60. million, but he seems to enjoy it. But I. think at this point in his life, the. best thing he can do is to get him. signed to a long-term contract without. having to franchise him for two years. and having to pay an awful freight to. keep him on the roster. Everybody's. going to be interested in the guy. I.

mean, who has pass rushers that can. change the game? I mean, that's Lane. Johnson we're walking. He's just walked. right back there. That guy's a really. good player. So, he's he's a hot. commodity and he can tilt the game. And. I think what we saw with the Cowboys. traded for Charles Haley back in the. day, they won Super Bowls after they got. Haley. This is the kind of player we're. talking about. >> Hambo sent me a stat. Um, most sacks on. >> I love Hambo. >> He gezbo. love you, Hambo.

>> Hembo. Hebo. Hamone, too. we're big fans. of um most sacks on a team after getting. traded there. >> In third, John Abraham, 68 12 sacks for. the Falcons. In second, Chandler Jones. 71 a 12 sacks for the Cardinals and the. most sacks in the history after being. traded to a team. Jared Allen, 85 and a. half for the Vikings. >> Let's go. >> So, there has been I think Reggie White. was traded uh to. >> he was like the the first free agent. signing. Yeah, like big one. Schneid.

said yesterday he was a trade. So. Schneid's need to tighten up. >> Okay, Schneider, your boots on the. ground. I'm taking what you're saying. for ver verbatim there. But Jared Allen. going there and having that career. I. only remember him. >> as a Viking obviously. Like that can. happen. And Jerry doesn't want that for. Maka. >> No. >> No, he does not. >> He's going to be Pton Manning was only. shown in a Denver Broncos uniform for a. long time after he retired. Okay. Jim. Ersce and the boys had to build a statue. for him here in Indianapolis for people. to like remember that he played for the. Colts and he was here for like 18 years.

>> and won a Super Bowl. >> and Yeah. And it was like it's that. Jerry. >> Jerry doesn't want Maka playing anywhere. else. But Jerry has also said that his. mouth has gotten him into a lot of. borrowed money. I'm too good at getting. borrowed money. I was $50 million in. debt actually and then his one oil rig. that he paid $800,000 for. >> hit. >> Yeah. I made $100 million just off of. that rig. I knew exactly what I was. doing. I was buying Dallas Cowboy Jerry. >> You know, all that's true. You know, Pat, all that documentary about Jerry,

>> all that stuff is true. And I lived it. I experienced it. Not because I worked. for the Cowboys, but we played in 1989. We were getting ready to play the. Buffalo Bills in a in a conference game, uh, a a divisional round. And back in. '89, there were no places to practice. indoors. Nobody had an indoor facility. like we all have now. And so we you. typically had to go somewhere. So the. Browns, we used to go to Vero Beach to. practice at Dodgertown, but that was. being used. So we went to the Cowboys. facility and Jerry had just bought the. team and the building. He moved.

everybody into half of the building. because he didn't want to pay the heat. cost for the entire building cuz he was. so leveraged out on everything. So he. just practically moved and now people. were in two offices and shared it. It. was unbelievable. And then he changed. the game completely when he gave Jerry. Jimmy Johnson that contract and he took. all the money from Apex and said, "Here, Jimmy, all the money I just got from. Apex, I'm going to give it to you." That. changed the game. That changed the game.

That's why he belongs in the Hall of. Fame for what he's done for the league. in terms of the value he put, the money. you made in your career. A lot of it's. contributed to Jerry Jones. There's no. question about that. his ability to see. the game moving forward. But this issue. on Parsons is a separate issue. >> Yeah, the Parson stuff might be just. drama that he loves, which is a part of. his business plan. He has actually said. that that's a part the Cowboys aren't. scared to be in the middle a little bit. of controversy. Don't you worry about. what the Cowboys are doing here. I was.

told by somebody uh kind of in the know. in the NFL world, one Jerry Jones in the. league was a necessity. If there was 32. Jerry Jones, our league would be over. Is that is that a like one was a. necessity? >> Well, at the time when he came in, it. was really he was the Steve Jobs of the. NFL. He came in with a different idea, a. marketing strategy that no one else. knew. If you see pictures and and happy. birthday to Coach Parcels last week, you. see pictures of coach Parcels on the. sideline next to Bichc. Coach Parcels is. wearing an Apex jacket and Bellich's.

wearing a starter jacket. And they were. each making a little bit of money, not a. lot, from each company. And Jerry said, "Enough of that. I own the sideline. Here's what we're going to do. And now. the owners own the sideline. >> Yeah. Reebok deal and then Nike deal and. then this this whole Yeah. And now. they're a cash gal. >> Yes. >> He was I was in $50 million in debt to. be clear. Now uh most. >> valuable franchise in the history of. sports. It's a hell of an American dream. story, brother. >> Got 700 mil from the NFL.

>> Unbelievable. All right, Lombo. Good. luck down there. We can't wait to watch. >> Thank you. I'll see you f I'll see you. Monday night. Monday afternoon. We got. some a lot of people in the house. Can't. wait to have you. Hope to hope to see. you. >> Yeah, I'm I can't wait to be down there, man. I was uh I was asked if I wanted to. do it and I was like, Lombbo and Bill, you got to come here. >> Absolutely. >> You got to come here for the game. We. got musical I mean I I I hear this. We. got musical talent coming down here. The. great Eric Church is a huge huge UNCC. fan. Hopefully he's going to show up. with advice and maybe he'll play a.

little Springsteen for us. >> Oh, is he? >> I don't know. I can't answer that. >> Oh, the. >> just put a little public pressure pusher. on him a little bit. Yeah, I like that. You're the man. All right, pies on. Good. luck. >> Thanks, guys. Byebye. >> Michael Lombardi. >> Springsteen. >> Mhm. >> Is that on Monday? >> Jordan coming. Is Jordan doing the coin. toss? >> Probably. >> Michael. >> Lawrence Taylor might be there, too. >> Yeah, I was thinking Michael. Michael, right? >> Oh, you're a different one. >> Oh, you're thinking Jordan?

>> Yeah, potentially. >> Is that pronounced Jordan, though? I. assume I. >> witho or is it Jordan? >> I don't think so. >> I think. >> because every time you read it, it's. hard not to say Jordon. >> I've been saying. >> because it is do normally you see a N. there. Whatever the case, she's in a lot. of headlines all the time and it's not. what we expect from a Bill Bichc like. thing, but that Bill Bich's living his. life and if if Lombardi is saying, "Hey, inside the football, we're still doing. our thing." I'm excited to see what the. team is. I mean, it's a lot to just.

build a culture, flip a culture. We're. going to be joined here soon by a guy. who's doing it again at a school that he. went to. He's a alumni of and he's being. tasked with flipping an entire culture. back to what it actually is, you know, representing an entire state of just. tough. Like that is literally what it. is. And this guy had a uh. >> Hatchimaki. >> Hachi Maki on the other day, hard edge. bandana. Just letting you know I'm a. samurai of tough. If you would like to. come learn uh from a sensei, I am the. guy. If you are tough and you are. athletic, we want you here at West.

Virginia. Now, it's going to be hard. [ __ ] ain't going to be easy. You're. going to have to be tough, but that is. what Hard Edge is all about. Ladies and. gentlemen, joining us now is one of the. greatest football coaches of all time. I. was very lucky to have him as a college. football coach, and now he's back at. West Virginia University, the home of. tough, ladies and gentlemen. Coach Rod. >> Hey. Hey, Pat, where did you get that. funky picture at? I I swear to Raquel I. didn't I said I don't remember taking. that picture and putting a headband on. but somehow I got circulated. I look.

like an idiot. But. >> no, this is a good thing, not a bad. thing. This is you are a hardedged. samurai, folks. You are Hey, how are you. doing, boss? How are How's life over. there? >> It's good. Camp was good. You know, I. still have my voice. You know, the first. week was really tough, but uh I'm proud. of our guys. You know, it's different. You know, Pat, it's it's a different. type of challenge. you know, no matter. what coach or what system you bring in. and you're going to be we're going to be. demanding and uh I'm proud the way they. hung in there. They're, you know, now I. got to see what we have. You know, we. got to play a game and find out what we.

really have. But from an attitude. standpoint, a culture standpoint, I. don't think we're 100% there, but we're. a lot further along than we were a month. ago and 6 months ago. >> Okay. So, let's talk about a lot further. along. Whenever you get the job, you. understand that nowadays an entire. building is not just the team in. assistant coaches. There's everybody in. the building now. We got nutritionists, dieticians, trainers, massage, everything. That's a nice facility over. there from whenever uh we were there the. last time. That that is a very beautiful. upgraded facility. But the entire. building has to kind of buy into your.

culture. How has that been? Cuz. obviously I think the way Neil Brown. coached, no offense to Neil Brown. I. appreciate what he did for West Virginia. University, spent a lot of time in. Morgantown, but the way he coached. vastly different than the way you coach. and the way you run a program. How has. that been? How has it settled in? Was. there like a little bit of a culture. shock or do you think everybody's kind. of figured it out pretty good? I. >> think there was going to be some a. little bit of shock no matter who came. in and is and did their own system. But. what's funny pal is we we took the team. picture here, you know, a couple weeks.

ago and there was as many people in. white polo shirts on the staff as there. was in uniform. I mean, I couldn't. believe all that. I was embarrassed. because I didn't know everybody's name. I'm like, there'sund some. We're feeding. 250 people every day in our building. So. that's why our food cost is so high. But. We could probably pay some players, you. know, we take some of these polos out of. here. >> And football staffers and football. players don't eat like normal people. You know what I'm saying? Like there's. normal people out here. No, there's a a. loaf of bread for one guy might last a.

day. A gall of milk ain't going for two. days. You know, it's it's crazy. But I'm. really fortunate to have it. Um, you. know, I I think it's, you know, West was. changed before when I I got a staff. pitcher when I was first here when you. were playing for us. you know, there's. like 10 coaches and four gas and like. three administrators and one strength. coach, right? Now, that's the recruiting. room. You know, that's it. So, it's a. little it's a little different dynamic. And so, you have more I guess you have. to have more people buy into the culture. or help you teach the culture than ever.

before. And the that's the part I'm. really pleased about that the staff. really has not only, you know, they got. to buy in, they got no choice, right? But the staff really helped me uh. establish that part. >> Go ahead, AJ. >> Coach, what do you uh like first game. you said we got to see what we have like. what what kind of team we are? What are. you expecting? What are like some. non-negotiables that you have for your. team that for especially the first week. you want to see and see how they. execute? >> Well, the easy easy answer is though. don't loaf and don't be soft and but. that's kind of a standard for anything.

But now it's a you know, you don't go. live that much in practice. You know, a. couple scrimmages and a couple practices. you'll be live or almost live. But in. the games, it's all full go on. And so, you know, you'll see who plays a little. bit faster in game time, who's a little. bit more physical in game time. Are the. lights too big or whatever. And you. know, some guys you think you know what. you have. And you guys know this. You. guys played at the highest level. There. are certain guys that do play or rise to. a level when there's a game and some. guys maybe don't. And until you play a.

game, you got to figure that out. I wish. we had a preseason game. It'd be easier. to kind of uh guesstimate what you have. But at the same time, these guys have. worked hard enough. They've earned the. right to show what they can do and and. then we'll see what happens. We're gonna. play a lot of people this weekend. >> I don't know if a priest play a lot of. people. I like that. That's a little. piece of uh information in a nugget to. find out who you have. I know the depth. chart conversation has certainly been. hilarious with you. And why would you. ever put a depth chart out, especially. when you don't know what you have and. the implications are very serious, especially with how transferring and. everything kind of works these days. And.

I think you like the entire room in most. rooms. Uh on that note, you brought up a. preseason there. I don't know if a. preseason game will ever get approved, but it feels like the scheduling and how. kind of power for conference football is. is changing right in front of our eyes. I think people aren't scared to get a. loss maybe early in the season, so maybe. they'll play a little bit bigger games. You're a guy I know that will play. anybody. Now, I know the Alabama thing. just kind of ended, but you are. literally, hey, if let's let's fight in. the park. We don't we'll play let's play. you. How do you feel about where college.

football is right now with the college. football playoff and how it's designed. and set up? And was that a big part of. you coming back to the Big 12 or back to. one of these power conferences at West. Virginia? >> Well, how college football is, it's a. cluster. I better not say the last word, but uh but it's but I think there's. efforts to make it better. I still think. I'm giving you my opinion. I still think. there's a separation that's about to. come where there's going to be 50 or 60. uh power four schools that have their. own league and then everybody else is.

separate because there's just so many. different dynamics in play now. money. financially, you know, what the. commitments to programs, what they can. do going forward and all that. So, we're. running a professional league now. And. so, as many professional rules that we. can follow, which the NFL is obviously. the most successful pro organization. there is, we got to follow that. So, if. we're going to follow an NFL model for. fairness and equity, you know, we need. to get those rules in established like. right now. Now, people can complain. about the NFL all they want. You guys. know this. there are you there's there's. fines and there's there's consequences.

for not following the rules and all that. the college there's still not that and. so I think all that's going to have have. one aspect but I can sit here and [ __ ]. about it I right now I'm say what am I. going to do what what good does it do to. me to [ __ ] about that what's the rules. right now what do we got to do to win on. these rules and what can we control what. we can control is our guys playing. really hard playing with passion all. right and and being disciplined and So. this first game I don't I I was on our. guys yesterday. I said we can't have.

pre- snap penalties. We can't have guys. holding when you hold you're lazy. That's it. If you loaf, you're a. traitor. You play for the other team. So. I don't want lazy people and I don't. want traders. You know what I mean? And. so that's not being like a jerk. And I I. could be a jerk, but that's not being. that's just being that's just being a. team a disciplined team. My opinion. >> If you are loafing, you are a traitor. You are fighting for the other team. You. are wasting a spot on the field right. now and you are cont. We've got 10.

against 12. If you got two guys lost. nine against 11 or 13, whatever it is, >> they they gain. Yeah. And Yeah. It's uh. you were a wordssmith. You were one of. the my favorite humans I've ever. encountered as you know. uh the things. you the way you would put words together. and how you would you're a psychologist. and you're also you say hard edge hard. nose accountability discipline like what. you taught me and our entire team we all. have carried into our life I think about.

your West Virginia southern [ __ ]. accent saying something to me on a very. regular basis whenever something pops up. in life and I think once you get the. guys in there that understand that and. can buy into it I think the. opportunities in the skies the actual. limit. On that note, Tone has a question. for you, coach. >> Yeah, coach, obviously you coming from. Jack State and a lot of your coaches. coming from Jack State and and still in. that culture is huge, but how important. is it the guys that you brought the. players that you brought? I think it's. like six to eight somewhere around that. range of guys that you brought over from. Jack State that are in the locker room.

every day that are around the other. players every day. How important are. those guys to instill the uh culture. with the team? Well, we thought that's, you know, part of the reason we we. thought, well, they're good players, but. two, they could help the guy explain to. the guys, hey, coach ain't that crazy. It's really a method that we're doing to. help these guys be the best version of. themselves. But even those guys, I had. to get on a little bit of course, >> which tells you that it's a constant. thing. You have to do that daily. Now, there are some guys that get it. You'll. never have to say a thing. But there's. other guys you have to fight it every.

day. I mean, you really have to fight it. every day. So, it's not a once-in- ah. thing that you ask for in your players. It's an everyday thing. And then once it. truly becomes established and ingrained. in your program, so to speak, then the. only guys you got to teach are the 30 or. whatever 25 new guys going forward every. year. >> 51, 70, 100 new guys every so many new. guys. >> 70 somebody told me the number was 79. I'm like, damn, no wonder I don't know. all their names. >> Yeah, it's a lot. It's a lot of players. Signetti did this though. Is that.

something you guys are looking at? Like. a blueprint? I I did look a little bit. at what what what he did there and had. some he brought a lot more guys in from. from uh JMU and with immediate help and. all that kind of stuff. Uh but we did. think about that a little bit. He got he. brought production as it as opposed to. potential I guess you would say. And. that's the same thing everybody wants. Not that we won't take a power forward. transfer or it's got to be the right fit. no matter where it is. But there were a. lot of guys for us that we thought you. know we were looking for a move up or. looking for opportunity on a bigger.

stage. And so they had a different type. of reasoning or hunger as opposed to. that. The guys that were looking for. just a bigger payday, you know, that. wasn't we weren't going to get that guy. You know, that guy's not, you know, plus. that's not the mindset that we're going. to build the culture around anyways. >> On that, Ty has a question for you, coach. >> Yeah. So speaking of that mindset, coach, when you go out and you're. recruiting, whether it's, you know, high. school kids that that might be coming or. it's prospective people in the transfer. portal, how long does it take you to. identify like, okay, this this is a kid.

that actually will fit into the culture. when you maybe haven't had him in your. building or, you know, anything like. that. >> Yeah, you have to ask hard questions. I. think any coach will tell you that. I. mean, it's all about I know coach Sabin. said this and I've obviously been saying. it for the last few years. You going to. buy guys, you got to buy the right. players, right? Um, you know, some. schools have been buying them for years, you know, but. >> that's. but uh but the truth is you got you. better you better the valuation is. always the biggest piece. People realize.

I mean and if a five star is probably a. fivestar, you're probably not going to. miss on too many of those cuz if you're. rated a so-called fivestar, you're. probably so dynamic that that you're. hard it's hard to screw that up. But. everything else is is a little bit of a. crapshoot if you don't really evaluate. not just his talent and his size speed. and all that kind of size and all that, but does he really love football? You. know, right now you're getting a lot of. guys that play football in high school. and college that like it, not love it. I. want the dudes that love it and need it. So if you take it away from him, it.

bothers them. I don't want the guy that. loves how many likes he gets on TikTok. or whatever it is. >> You hate that. Yeah, you hate that. Yeah, we know that. >> Yeah. I mean, I don't mind they if. that's like a side hobby, but how if how. many likes he's got is more important. than beating a block to get a sack or uh. high pointing a ball in a jump ball. situation or whatever the case may, that's the wrong dude. I want the dude. that just, you know, hey coach, we get. to practice today. Not that we have to. practice today. We get to that's what I. want. >> Yeah. And you just saying there does he.

love football? Like I I just want back. to so many moments of you cuz everybody. on your teams and you've probably been. told this have had a moment where they. all looked at each other and go Jesus. Christ man this guy this guy is getting. after it you know and the weight room is. a massive piece of it and I've heard. great things out of the weight room too. cuz it's like every day is on. I had the. incredible opportunity to be a drill. instructor uh for the Marines uh in this. movie called the mosquito bowl. Well the.

book is called the mosquito bowl. the. movies being filmed right now in. Australia. Peter Berg's directing it. There is awesome dudes across the entire. thing and watching them become not just. actors but actual team behind the scenes. as they're representing the greatest. generation and college football in this. movie that is going to be, you know, phenomenal from what I have seen thus. far. It's like what drill instructors. when I went down to Paris Island to. watch them and learn from them as I was. depicting them in a movie that was going. to be seen by a lot of people. These are. the these are the baddest [ __ ].

on earth. These these dudes are they. don't sleep. They're expected to be. perfect every single day. They are. supposed to stay on these Marine [ __ ]. every single moment basically. And these. recruits are, you know, not worthy of. being Marines at the beginning. And then. once through they get through boot camp, it's almost like you've earned your. stripes and you have kind of dealt with. and went through what a drill instructor. has given you for 13 weeks. Nowadays, back then it was seven to eight weeks. because they're in wartime. So, it was. all kind of much quicker. As I was.

learning about these drill instructors, all I thought to myself was Rich. Rodriguez would have been a phenomenal. drill instructor. I I mean an absolute. >> I was I was just on my team on my team. yesterday about discipline. You know, I. was talking about penalties, pre- snap. penalties, holding because you're lazy, not moving your feet, whatever, or. discipline, you know, uh in your work. ethic, whatever it is. I said discipline. is a form of love. It's what you do for. somebody, not at somebody. And but. nowadays it's it's it's tougher because. you discipline somebody and they're like. you don't like me anymore, you know or.

what have you. It's like no, if I didn't. like you, I wouldn't even pay attention. to you. You'd never hear I I tell the. guys you I probably said it to you. before. Oh, yes. But the day you start. screwing up and I don't say something to. you, >> I that's when I gave up on you. And I. ain't giving up on nobody. And surely I. wasn't going to give up on you. And I. didn't have to worry about that too. much. But some of these other guys it's. like you you tell them they're looking. at you know you know I said listen I'm. I'm doing it for your benefit you know. uh I don't never say say that nice but. anyway.

>> you are great you are just know that. when you watch this movie that I'm in. know that I drew a lot of inspiration. from like your attention to detail and. also the way that you are trying to get. everybody to their best version like you. said that earlier but that is. legitimately what it is. You just have. your way of doing it. Now, there are. other ways to do it. I don't think I've. ever seen a successful operation not be. accountable, not be disciplined. Like. all the traits that you pitch are the. traits that make a successful anything,

business, team, you can name it. So, I. want to thank you for being my college. football coach and for, you know, changing me. And you you mentioned it in. the press conference and I texted you. immediately afterwards seeing it cuz I. think you didn't want to like step out. of line where you were like if you see. Pat like Pat works his ass off. I think. he learned some stuff from our you know. program. It's like yes you can. absolutely say that I learned a lot. through your program about how I should. approach life, how I should view life, work ethic, what I should expect, all. those things. So you should be taking a.

lot of credit for that. You should not. feel like you can't do that. I'm very. but here's here's the point with Pat. McAfee and and some others of your. teammates and other people you know that. that you have on uh on your show. whatever is they not only have that but. they have a certain level of. competitiveness that they want to do. whatever you want them to do you know. the discipline the work ethic and all. that and so that competitiveness piece. of it I think is sometimes uh uh not. looked at as much as well the kids are I.

think naturally competitive but the most. highly successful uccessful ones like. yourself and and everybody else that. that that you have around you. Um. they're the ultra competitives, you. know, I mean, they'll race you to the. water fountain for crying out loud. I. mean, if there's, you know, if there's. one piece of steak over there and. there's 20 yards, I'm going to beat the. [ __ ] out of him to get to it. I mean, everything's everything's. keeping score, you know what I mean? And. some people say, "Well, you know, it's. you know, it's not right nowadays. You. lose, you know, it's this participation.

trophy thing." like are you [ __ ] me? You know what I mean? No, there's a. winner and there's a loser and and you. know if you don't get the participation. trophy then try harder next year, you. know. >> Yeah. Work harder. Work harder building. up to it. You didn't earn it there. Sports are a meritocracy and uh they. always will be. What you do in the dark. when nobody's watching will certainly be. seen in the light when everybody's. watching. And what you and your team. have done, which we already know, anybody that's been through your [ __ ]. we know the boys are going to be ready. And we know that uh you guys are ready.

to fight. I can't wait to watch your. team. Maybe see you in a couple weeks. >> Yeah, we hope. We hope so. >> Yeah, let's take care of business. Let's. not be [ __ ] you know, let's, you. know, when Hey, we need today. >> Right. Right now, I'm worried about. getting a first down in the first play. of practice here in about two hours and. then I'll take it from there. >> I asked him this morning, AJ, when I. called him. I said, "Coach, how you. doing?" He said, "Fuck, just trying to. get a first down. >> It's harder than ever now." You know. what I mean? Hit me. It's like I was. speaking a foreign language still.

>> that first year. I mean, how and I got a. lot of one-word calls. I'm like, if I. had one of these West Coast offenses. where you had like 18 sentences to make. a play call, we'd be screwed in without, you know, with no hope whatsoever. I got. a bunch of one-word calls, you think I'd. be able to handle it. >> Hey, speaking of handling, hold on. I. want to go back to a video that I broke. down. I wasn't there. Uh, I don't know. if you've seen my breakdown of the video. that hit the internet. This was. certainly equipment manager wearing the. ref stripes, not spotting the ball. accurately. Is that what this was?

>> Uh, I think it was No, I don't think it. was equipment manager. I think it was. one of the staff members, one of the. coaches. I have one of the coaches in. charge of being like the umpire or the. center judge to spot the ball quickly. And for whatever reason, he he was just. uh not paying attention. And it cost us. about 10 seconds. And I was like, that's. 10 seconds. I'll never I'll I'll never. get back. I'll be sitting on my deathbed. and wish I had 10 more seconds to live. But because if they screw the drill up, I'll never get that 10 seconds.

>> You're the greatest. I'm happy you. haven't changed. Good luck. I'll see you. soon. Take care of business, ladies and. gentlemen. The founder of Hard Edge, Rachel. [Applause]. >> I'll be laying on my deathbed and I'll. think I wish I had 10 more seconds. Do. you know where they went? you spotting. the ball in the wrong place. I'm telling. you, when I was watching those Paris. Island drill instructors, the these. unbelievable men and women, just the. baddest humans on earth, limited sleep, maximum energy, full attention all the.

time, have to be perfect. It's like to. play that in a movie is absurd. Like, they're going to be so mad at my version. of it, you know? Like, I understand. there's going to be many drill. instructors who have sacrificed their. entire lives to creating Marines for. extended periods of time. I mean it is a. full commitment families. What what is. that? You know like we are we are in. this with this platoon right here. It's. like honor of a lifetime. But as I'm. watching them and the way they were. speaking and then I watched some film. obviously we watch Arley from Full Metal.

Jacket and everything like that. The way. they talk it's a lot of promos and it's. like they're trying to get their point. across and it's like not exactly the uh. everybody's saying the same things. They're cutting promos in there to try. to crack through, to try to break. through, to try to touch an emotional. nerve. They are trying to get to that to. let you know like hey everything you've. learned before getting here like does. not matter. We are the Marines. We are. the first to fight and you are not going. to be a Marine unless you are a bad. [ __ ] Like that is just what the. Marines are. That's what they stand for. And the culture is the drill instructor.

So as I'm watching and listening to. these drill instructors, I'm like Rich. Rodriguez missed his calling, man. This. is every day there's something you can. fix. Cuz even when they're standing. perfectly, they're not. >> Mhm. >> Your feet aren't at 45°, they're at 46°. You need to go ahead and move that [ __ ]. You're standing upright. Nope. You're. not enough. You're [ __ ] need to. extend that spine a little bit more. Like there's always something to fix. because it's like you're always. striving. You have never made it. That. is rich rod to a tea. Like yesterday. have the greatest practice of all time. He's coming in the next day. That was.

[ __ ] Absolute [ __ ] We're watching the. things that were bad and then we're. going into it. It's like with that being. said, I think that's always going to. win, you know? Like it's always going to. end up winning. Like I think if he would. have stayed at Michigan a little bit. longer, I think I think he probably. would have won. I think he would have. started winning. Arizona, I think he. started Jacksonville State. He takes. them from uh not D1 to D1 wins. conference. It's like those intangibles. win in the sport of football. Toughness, accountability, uh being a good. teammate, like that matters in our.

sport. So like whenever Richrod gets. hired back to West Virginia, I think. everybody that was at West Virginia when. Rich Rod was there was like, "All right, we're going to win. We're going to win. games. Is are we going to win at all in. this modern world with how much money. some people have versus what we have? Maybe not. But are we going to are we. going to be a tough football? >> Yeah, we're going to be a tough football. team and it's going to be fun to watch. You know, AJ, it's like a cool feeling. >> And Rich Rod even said that in he's like. it's every day. Like you got to stay on. them. It's true. It's like a parenting. If you're a parent, like if you let a. kid get away with a tiny little bit, like they're going to continue to try to.

push and push and your team I I think a. bad thing for a team is if they're. comfortable. Like a team should never. really be comfortable. I know at least. as a player I I I never felt. comfortable. You should never be. comfortable and sometimes you wish you. were but then you're like no like we. don't that's not how it works. You have. to be on everything every single day and. you can't let anything slip. >> Meetings at 2:00. Okay, you better be in. there 1:50 cuz that meeting starting. anywhere between 1:50 and 2:00. So if. you're anything after 1:50, you're late. And you're sitting there and you're. facing the front. Okay, we're facing the.

front. We are not This ain't. >> You're not just hanging out and we're. not just. >> study hall. Hey, how was it last night. that that we are we're in a [ __ ] team. meeting right now. This is uh we have a. reason. And then he would walk in. whenever 154 through the back and it was. like as soon as he walked in it was. everybody was like, "All right, well, here we go. We have no idea. We have no. idea what's about to happen here. We. have no He could throw us a bone, which. is exactly what they call it, I think, on Paris Island. Uh when he throws. somebody bone, like let them just have. like a little bit of moment. He could. throw us a bone. Hey, guess what, boys?

Go in the pool." It's like, "Holy [ __ ]. we thought we were running the hill. potentially there." Like, always. guessing, you know, never content, always striving, and oh yeah, we can get. better than we were yesterday. That's. why I like I hope he wins. I do. I hope. he gets a chance because I think he's. done it in a way that is a winning way. in football. And uh it is like you feel. for the people that have gone through a. Rich Rodriguez like. >> football program like the guys that went. through with Neil Brown and Dana. Hogerson at West Virginia. Certainly.

respected your mountaineers. I I do. We. didn't have a lot in common though cuz I. I I didn't you didn't have to go through. Barist Beach in I know you didn't. because I've been watching the videos of. what you guys been doing. We were damn. near death every day. Like that is what. we were. And those rules were a little. bit different back then. And watching. that team and kind of watching it build. and watching him just be the alpha of. the room. And us rallying sometimes. against him almost like [ __ ] this guy. Like this guy has no idea. He doesn't. care. He wants that. Like that is a part.

of the entire mission. It's like they're. they're going to win at West Virginia. And I'm honored that they uh have. selected me for the Hall of Fame and I'm. pumped that Rich is back there. It's. going to be electrifying this fall. I. think personally, maybe not this year. >> Coaching's back. I think coaching's. back. Rich Rodro styleish. I think it's. coming back a little bit. >> Matt Rule, too. Same thing. We're not. doing Tik Tok, please. >> No. >> Go on, get it out of there. I think it. is. That's always been the style that. wins. Some coaches just are a little bit. better with the media. I think you know. like Andy Reed louder than others. I. think some are louder. That's all. >> Nobody expects Andy Reid. Andy Reid is.

uh he's not swearing like we tried, but. it is still the same. >> Who's that Arizona State coach? The. young guy. Feels like he's just like. that as well. He's great. Yeah, it's. it's Hey, you have to like this is a. developmental thing like you are boys to. men. ABC. >> We'll be back tomorrow live from. Columbus, Ohio. AJ and I will be over. there going to kick off a beautiful. weekend in Ohio as college football week. one is about to exhilarate the world. See you then. Nailed it.

>> Well done. >> Hell yeah. >> I have to go to the bathroom. Let's take. a break and then we'll wrap up show on. the other side. Be a friend. Tell a. friend something nice. It might change. their life. Take fire. >> Fire. [Music]. We're still bringing it. [Applause]. I light every bridge I see here just to. watch it burn. If you seen all the hell.

I've seen it make your stomach turn, I. think you know why I do what I do when I. do. [Music]. Started with 133 teams vying for one of. these coveted 12 spots for this 12 team. playoff and it came down to two teams in. the great state of Indiana kicking this. entire thing off.

I might drink a little. I might smoke a. lot. Good time. >> The best year of college football that. it's ever had. It's about to have the. greatest playoffs it's ever had. And it. all starts right here in front of. Touchdown Jesus and his beautiful. people. And I need to say. Irish.

>> They'll do that all night. If you make. this kick, I will double his kick to. $500,000. I will also donate $250,000 to. a charity of Chris Dy's choosing. >> Yeah. Let it go. Oh god. Not terrible. blank $750,000. The Lord is watching you.

>> 1 million. [Applause]. And there's a bunch of. us. >> We don't just beat top 25 teams. We beat. the [ __ ] out of you. Okay, Google. >> The one thing you didn't learn from me. is talking all the [ __ ] you talk. >> Welcome to the most electrifying. atmosphere in all of sport. I know.

European soccer fans are wild. That's. like 30 to 60,000. You're about to see. all weekend 100,000 plus bananas. atmosphere. And that is one part of the. reason why college ball is so damn. great. >> Just had a fun show. No. No serious. serious football. Alabama Jones is very. serious. >> You know, he was trying to be funny, which I get it. And you know, my. daughter Kristen loves him. So that's. kind of soothed the soul a little bit.

that somebody in our family likes the. guy. >> I choose to believe. And for a touchdown, Jesus, and. everybody looking down, IU gets a massive win over Notre Dame. Shane, I'm sorry. >> You're a real scumbag. >> I thought Coach Signetti coming out here. was a real disgrace to the game. He left. his players in the locker room to go get. some camera time for himself. I know a. legend like yourself would never do. something like that. Would you?

>> No. No. It's disgusting. I saw it. I. thought, "Wow, what a sad, disgusting. program." Marinate by a million. Go. Irish. >> Riley Leonard and the Irish from their. own two. Jeremiah Love breaks free. Car. mile to go 98. Touchdown. [Music]. >> Might be fiction for a blowout here, fellas.

>> Couldn't wait to get to the wonderful. state of O. in the SEC coming up to the Big 10 when. it's cold as hair. We shall settle the. conversation here in beautiful Columbus. Coach, that hairline. You get a haircut. every day. Not every day. Not every day. Big beard, big boot, and toes. 500. Oh, this guy. Holy. Holy cow. This guy's the worst.

we've ever seen. Just took out the Ohio. State cheerleaders. $1 million here. J. >> This guy sucks at kicking butt. We. appreciate the hell out of you. >> There he is. >> He was once wiped 100 times. The flex. with the white blood. >> Yeah. 100 times. >> There are actually people out there. Psychos obviously that like the. nonfrosted poparts. Gary, one of the. best football players I've ever been. around. Nonfrosted strawberry pop. I. like non frosted poptarts.

I like non frosted pops. Now. >> I at one point this year was the mayor. of Cocktown. You were the mayor. Mayor. of Cocktown. Yeah. They voted me in. there and this my become the mayor of. Cocktown. He's going to go around and. say, "Listen, I hard cock." I hard. [ __ ] I'm sorry. Numerous. Whenever we. found out that there was going to be a. college football playoff game in. Columbus, Ohio, we were all jacked up to. see this Ohio State faithful be. showcased to the entire world about how.

much they love football. Then we walked. out here to this game day set this. morning and it was Rocky. Well, in that song they say it's home. Home for me is the north and the cold is. going to be the hard. Give me the Ohio. State Buckeyes. representing.

>> for the big 10. [Applause]. celebrity. >> How cool was Sean Perkins, the Ohio. State football team for allowing us to. hang out in their facility pretty much. all day Saturday. They had five TV. setups, a bunch of recliners, Roosters. supplying some phenomenal food. Heat. Heat.

Henderson in the open field. a scoring another for the Ohio State. Story of the game thus far is Chip Kelly. is going mad dummy from all Ohio. excited. They were singing last night. be from my heart. First, second reck.

would hate to be a Tennessee fan or a. chair near Morgan Wall cuz they have no. hope right now. Jerem. and large he's getting absolutely stunk. raising absolute hell. >> A couple people up here with that smoky. orange face paint on that are feeling. real [ __ ] right now as we look to.

the exits and the volunteers fans are. saying get my ass back to the south. This one's over. Bounces it. Let's go down Ohio State. Boys, that was. wide ass over. the celebration. >> 500 drones, ones that we know about. This game's over, but uh we're still. bringing.

>> Oh god. Hell yeah. Hilarious. Hell yeah. >> You earned that, buddy. Daytime. [Music].

[Applause]. [Music]. races. Thanks Pat. [Music]. Next time. [Music].

you. [Music]. Thank you. [Music]. [Music].

There you are. There you are. [Music]. The college football playoff is. obviously in the middle of a transition. era, but we go back in time into a movie. like setting to battle in the Big 10 to.

see who gets to move on and who goes. home. Our UFOs just flew over top these. two smoke bomber ended the national. anthem. And on a day in the United. States of America where a heinous act. has happened, it's a nice reminder that. we'll get your ass. You might take a. shot, but you're never going to win a 10. for Howard. Same exact play action. Drops it off to Jeremiah Smith. Jeremiah Smith first touches a.

touchdown. Time shot down middle to the step. >> See the split safety is right here. So. Will Howard knows his room. Looks the. ball. Steps up in the pocket. Great. throw. >> Takes a shot and what happens? Jeremiah. Smith comes up with the ball. Hand off. run to the left. Jordan James. [Applause]. >> Well Howard time. Oh no. Jerem wide ass.

open. Ohio State is kicking the living shite. out of the Oregon Ducks. If Jeremiah. Smith is on your team, I think you can. win every game. Tavon Henderson. He's at the 30, the 20, the 10. Touchd. running, they can spin, they can kick. This Buckeye's team is playing football. at a level nobody else in the country is. playing right now. gathers a low snap.

Cross left throws back to the right. Jeremiah on the field. So that's another. first down. Thus far, this game has been. absolutely. shining. him. Stop. Oh my god. >> Wow. >> That is so beautiful. You got Matt Hardy. on the left there.

AJ. I see at the 47. Unfortunately, my. youngest son uh puked all over himself. and went to the hospital. So, my whole. family's not here anymore to hear that. >> But I'm getting some updates every once. in a while. He seems to be doing not. much better. >> He puked over the whole section. >> Jeez. >> Instant urgent care, instant hospital. >> Oh no. >> What type of sh was he eating? Is. someone making salmon down here? We came. down here and smelled like fish. Look at. this. >> For those that have never been here, I. would recommend coming and checking it. out. Although this particular game was.

absolute. shining. [Music]. >> let's go. This show sticks and the fact that you. listen, we are very, very thankful. >> Mcaby on the line with a gorgeous.

assist. >> The alltime leading tackler for the. Green Bay Packers. You pick. >> Damn it. >> Your friend, tell your friends something. nice could change their life. [Applause]. [Music]. sport. Hello beautiful people and. welcome back to our humble the boat the. thunder on this hard edge Thursday. August 28th 20125 hour 3 the program. begins now.

football. >> is the greatest AJ if you loaf you're a. traitor okay. >> it's true it's true there's all you guys. have different forms of loafs as well. like we get graded there's a turn turn. it down loaf if you turn it down there's. a a speed up loaf if you're running all. of a sudden you change your speed yeah. all that stuff. >> no people are getting loafs when they. weren't loafing, I think, uh, back when. at West Virginia. I mean, he is he's. looking for treason, you know. He is. certainly going to find it, too. If you. loaf, you're a trader. If you hold, you're lazy. >> I don't want lazy traders on this team.

That was one of the line, dude. He was. electrifying as a head coach. I I mean, that is just like putting it mildly. Every year at the end of training camp, I would host uh a gong show of sorts. that the freshman would put together and. I would be Rich Rodriguez at the end of. that thing and I would just say things. that he had said in the past year, just. his I would write his [ __ ] down. So like. literally throughout the year things. would happen and I'd be like locking. that one down. Like if you know if. you're a trainer that would have been.

immediately like yep putting that down. And uh in this time at the end of the. gong show, I would come out Stone Cold. Steve Austin from the back like he does. for the team meetings cuz like different. groups of freshman would do their show. or whatever. And then I would come out. and at the very end I would come I came. out like Stone Cold Steve Austin glass. break did the entire thing and I went on. that was probably my first time really. doing uh a performance if I had to say. and that was a tough room. Okay, we had. a tough team. That that's a tough room. We got people literally from Compton,

South Florida, Ohio, every you name it. We got people from all over the map in. that room and they're all just getting. done with training camp and it's a Rich. Rodriguez training camp. So that's a. tough [ __ ] room. I mean that is a. tough tough room right there. So I got. in there and got some pops out of that. entire thing. Felt like I was on top of. the world. Then Rich Rod would come up. immediately afterwards and did I get a. ramp, [ __ ] And we're right. I. mean he is he's so funny dude. He his. brain football-wise and motivation wise. is just always he's all we'd see him.

5:00 a.m. he's on the [ __ ] stepper. the the the stepping machine or. whatever. Cavs just outrageous pop just. right through wouldn't stop. We're. working out down there 6 a.m. with Baris. which was. maybe the greatest strength coach of all. time. He's getting people with paralysis. to walk now. I mean, just like. >> so honored to know him, but he was I. mean, that [ __ ] was not that was that. was that was some those were some tough. days. Those were some some very tough. mornings there when you're questioning a.

lot of things. A lot of things. Football. [ __ ] this sport. I could go. play soccer again. Right now, I stopped. soccer cuz I didn't want to run. And now. I'm going through the hardest work. Is. this the hardest workout in the United. States of America? I think this might be. the actual most difficult workout on a. regular basis in the United States of. America. I didn't even lift going in to. in high school. I didn't even lift. Not. one time. >> That's wild to me. You're thrown into. that after like I know you said you you. kicked and everything in high school, but you joined the team basically for.

games. Like the fact that you had. nothing and then you get thrown into. >> a rich rod team with Barwist as the. strength coach. Like yeah, like you. pretty much they threw you in the. toughest spot you probably could. >> And I'll tell you what, right mindset. I. always I always try to enjoy everything. as much as possible, but boy, there were. some days where I was like, I'm not. supposed to be here. No way. And uh. teammates, the tightness whenever you go. through that together, hard when you go. through hard together, it really does. bring you, you know, it brings you. together. So, I got faith in this West. Virginia team. A lot of new faces, a lot.

of new bodies, but I think that soul was. always going to be the same if Rich Rod. is the coach. The toxic table was here. at Boston Conor and at Ty Schmidt. Uh. Ty, are you a little bit worried? you. know that that coach is back in football. in a big way. Listen the way he speaks. Would you ever hear Kirk Ference talk. like you're talking about polar opposite. type of uh personalities? Similar. coaching styles though, do you believe? >> Uh yeah. So you don't ever hear Kirk say. anything like that in like the media and. he'll never really get he doesn't give.

reporters really anything. But if you. watch Kirk on the sidelines like he he. still gets fiery. He'll still. [ __ ] you know, an assistant coach. or the referee. But I mean, >> what's it like? Does this Ryan Day just. won? Ryan Day seems like a pretty. intense guy. Yeah. You know, seems like. a pretty intense dude. I do wonder what. his dayto-day is like cuz I think you. have to be in our sport. I think you. have to be pretty attention to detail. However, >> you can't let anything slip. You can't. let anything slip. And that goes as far.

as like your assistant coaches too. Like. that's a big thing like how you coach. your assistants. They have to know the. standard and what it is. And that's the. thing, like it's exhausting to do that. Think about it, Rich. That's exhausting. to not let anything slip. Like you could. be walking by any like anytime just see. the tiniest thing. And if you want like. Yeah. Even though it might seem tiny. like Yeah. We can't have that. Like we. have to change this. >> Pick up the [ __ ] straw wrapper. Put. it in the [ __ ] trash can. >> Yeah. I don't know why I left it there. Yep. You're 100%.

>> Wasn't mine, I don't think. Yeah, >> it's hard to explain that to young. people sometimes. So, as a young kid, it's easy to be like, "Well, what do you. think? You think if third and two is. going to care if I threw my tape away. today?" Like, that's But honestly, it. all it's all connected. It does matter. >> It doesn't show up till it shows up. That's like the That is literally what. it is. It doesn't show up till it shows. up. And I don't want to point out what. happened with the Colts last year with. the fumble and the half yard line and. everything else like that, but it's like. there were signs that things were not. operating how, you know, winning teams. operate. I'm not just pointing out one.

particular team. This happens throughout. a year for a lot of teams. You see. things that are happening. It's like how. you do anything is how you do. everything. If that's happening, what. else is happening? And if it if you're. seeing this now that is it going to show. up in the biggest moment? Probably. Like. that that is normally how it all works. out. And uh. >> yeah, I I I'm very pumped for college. football to start today. >> I'm starting to get like very excited. about now. This also brings back college. kickers. Let's be nice. Remember, it's. not easy to kick. We showcase that every. single weekend on college game day. Hard. hard to kick. >> Actually, uh with the kickers, cool.

story tonight with Nebraska that punter. uh. >> who went viral for, you know, like not. seeing his family and everything. Uh I. guess they flew over like a bunch of his. friends and his family. >> Bunch of B. >> Yeah, a bunch of the Blo are going to be. there in Kansas City. >> Good BS coming over there. The um I love. to hear that. He also uh one of the guys. he can kick with both feet. >> So I guess that that was uh one of the. storylines of the offseason. young guy, 18 years old, which I appreciate. I like. that he's 18, you know, because there.

has been some situations where 30 year. olds are coming over, you know, to. colleges to kick and like 17-year-old. Americans obviously not going to get. scholarships over 30-year-old. ex-professional, >> full family, know how to be an adult, very consistent. >> Aussie, who I love, I'm not I listen, it. was an opportunity. You're allowed to. take it and everything. I'm just saying. that was happening there for a bit. So. that was an interesting dynamic and a. little bit of a change, but I think the. Aussies have brought great things into. Bunny. So I'm not judging. I'm just.

saying that was the situation I think I. think it's happening right now again. with Hawaii and everything like that. But I love that it's an opportunity and. everything. But this kid 18 years old, so he's like committing life to this. now. You know, like all the other guys, Aussie rules, football players, great. sport, electrifying sport. Won the. Brisbane Lions. He's had their awards. last night. Congrats to all the boys. that won their uh AFL awards. new MVP. was crowned, toughest guy was crowned, you know, champion of all that stuff. But a lot of those guys were coming from. Aussie rules football into American. football uh to kick. So, it's a little.

bit of an adjustment. Different ball, different strategies. They're doing a. lot of passing to each other. So, they're very accurate, very good in. control. They actually have a kick. whenever they're growing up. So, the way. they punt the ball, obviously different. than an American style. him as an. 18-year-old doing American football. feels like he'd probably concentrate a. little bit more on the American style, which is cool that we've gotten to that. continent because that's a very cool. place and I think they would like. football a lot if it it became bigger. over there. They're going to try to take. a game there. That's far away. >> So far, good luck. >> That's a far that's a far away. But like.

a Nebraska kid, yeah, 18 years old, can. go I I think he's. >> So he go Does he do they know going into. the punt if he's going right or left. footed? >> I would assume his team would know if. he's 18 like this is freshman year. So I. maybe rule giving him check like he can. check as a freshman and that would be. insane if he could be like hey we're. rolling right on this one like tapping. his leg making an adjustment out there. Maybe next year I would assume that. would take place or maybe throughout the. year but I would assume his team knows. the other team would not but you know I. do have a little bit of a take on that.

Um, there's definitely a more dominant. leg. And you know, this is kind of like. the conversation. Do we want it like. show with pitching and hitting? >> It's like, do we want to sacrifice the. development of definitely a bombing leg, whichever one is the one. >> for mixed hits on the off leg? Because. there's definitely going to be one leg. that's stronger than the other. >> It's like, how much do you want to do. that? Or do you use it as a curveball. like, hey, this is. >> or or it could just be your your. non-dominant. It could be an emergency.

situation. Hey, we dropped the snap. Whatever. This guy's rushing all over. I. got to kick this one left. >> Exactly. You can have a firef fire. situation or you could use it as an. advantage, you know, cuz having probably. two returners. So, you now you got only. nine up. So, that takes a little bit of. pressure off a lot of people. You can. maybe run fakes off of it if you're able. to go both directions. Probably not. going to run a rush. Probably going to. be a lot of stand if you guys go in both. ways. So, that is a weapon I think. But. I I personally I would not want to. sacrifice the development of the one. because if he's going to make it, he's.

going to have to have a very very very. dominant one. There's only 32 jobs and. it's uh I think he has the talent, all. the talent in the world. I'm very. excited to watch him and once I learn. more about his story, it's like this is. a guy. This is a this is a real deal and. there's a lot of those. >> And I think something to watch tonight, uh something Nebraska wants to do is. just get the ball off. I believe they. had eight kicks plucked uh last season, which was one of I think the worst in. college football. They they brought in a. new special teams coordinator, so I. think they're just trying to get that. ball off. >> Yeah. And if you have a punter going. both directions, it might take the heat.

off the blocks a little bit. That might. save eight blocks. >> You weren't here. Um did you hear the. story about the Japanese uh field goal. kicker from Hawaii? >> No. >> Okay. So, he hit the game winner last. week against Stanford. I think he's 24. or 25. He was introduced to American. football and then he learned how to kick. by watching YouTube videos. Went to a jo. I think in Wisconsin or Minnesota. somewhere in the Midwest. Didn't want to. go somewhere where uh anyone spoke. Japanese cuz he wanted to learn the.

language and then signs on with Hawaii. kicks a game winner. >> That's a pure ball right there. >> Yeah. Learned how to kick from YouTube. >> I love that. >> ledge. Yes. >> Uh that is magic. I mean, that's what. technology and the advancements of. everything, making the world smaller, really shines a light on how good things. can be, too. How would he ever be. introduced to our sport or this. opportunity? He hits a pure ball right. there, too. That's a huge moment there. for Hawaii, beating Stanford. >> You know that you hear the Stanford. people talk, it's like, if we can't beat. Hawaii, we're in trouble in this entire.

thing. Would love Hawaii to get back to. be a great team. That's a pure ball in a. massive moment. What is he, freshman? Sophomore? >> Oh, that's a good question. I think I I. think I saw like his second or third. year of eligibility. Uh but it's just. like that kid who uh was racing. They. made a movie about him. He was a uh just. like an online virtual racer and then he. became a real uh race car driver and you. know whatever not Formula 1 but with a. Forza motorsport whatever the hell it. is. He be he went from video game in his. entire rig in his house and then he got.

signed to a team and then he became a. professional driver. K Matsuzawa. Uh K. Matsuzawa is a senior. All right. So we. know that uh previous school Hawking. College High School. >> in Ohio. >> Makohari Sogo High School. All right. Well, good luck, brother. Hey, we love. that story. Ball kicking positions, good. entry point for our sport to a lot of. countries. You know, rugby, uh Gaelic. football, I think even has some kicking. in it. Obviously, soccer, Aussie rules.

football, uh, union rugby, sevens rugby. There's a lot of different styles. Rugby. league, I believe. I don't want to I. want to get them all right because they. all have their own very passionate fan. bases who think the other sport is not. as good as theirs. >> Sure. >> A lot of rugby people saying Aussie. rolls ain't the real sport, Mike. You. got to come down here. Rugby. A lot of. people have no respect for the other. sport. >> Okay. It's like the h isn't rugby down. there. New Zealand and Australia is and. that's. >> Yeah, the rugby NRL I guess is a massive.

ordeal down there. >> It's one F1 and one of them's at NASCAR. I know they have a rivalry. >> So I think one it's more regional like. uh hockey. You know how like there's. hockey towns? I think there's like. Aussie rules football is across the. south. I think if I was remember from. the conversation more of the southern. part of the uh continent has Oz football. and then uh rugby kind of more so the. middle and the top I believe if I was. remembering the conversation I had after. about two hours of sleep correctly you. know if I am all digesting it properly.

>> Sure. >> But I went to one of those Aussie Rose. football games over there. It was. electric. It was like a European soccer. game. >> It was like that was the vibe. Always up. always energy. There's action happening. really far from us because the field's. so far. People still engaged, drinking a. little 4x, you know, as big as it look. I had about 15x. Field is huge. Field is. absolutely gigantic. But the vibes are. awesome. Posted about going to it. >> and I got a bunch of Aussie a sport, Mike. >> Rugby. I don't even [ __ ] fall. >> That's why there might not be many. fatsos in Australia because the sports.

that they play are there's really no. constant movement. >> Yeah. There's no fatso positions in. >> they got to run a lot. And these dudes. are big too and they're running a lot. You don't see a lot of like uh. >> Oh, no. They're jacked. >> Jacked all of them. And all of them. seemingly hilariously handsome. They got. like some ridiculous look. Like they all. It is It's a cool sport. Mluggage. >> He was He got uh named uh All Australia, I think. >> Yeah. I mean, he's a dog. I've been. saying it for years now since the. pandemic. Really? He's who he's what got. me into the Brisbane lines. >> I think it was episode 709, maybe like.

hour 40 minutes in. They played it. >> Really? >> Yeah. They played the clip. >> So, seriously, that's awesome. And then. they said the guy was standing 2 feet in. front of me. They go, "That's Hugh. McCluggage." And I was like, "Huw dog. gone. >> Huge fan. >> We loved you.". >> It was a cool moment. It was a cool. moment. >> Mluggage. >> Charlie Cameron. Um, it was his 250th. game. He had Country Roads as his song. >> That's sweet. >> Yeah. Yeah, it was awesome. I guess. there was some, um, negativity about. goal songs after goals. I guess this.

might be something new. I don't know. I. was just trying to follow the social. network. >> sure. >> response and uh cuz I saw people saying. I saw one tweet that seemingly had a lot. of attention that was like for those who. don't like the songs after goals or. whatever this must be a new thing. Uh. listen to this in Brisbane and it was. the entire place singing country roads. >> It was [ __ ] sick. I was so happy. I. was sitting there just having a good old. time. Charlie Cameron scores 250th. He. was very nice to me uh at practice. It. was nice to talk to him. What a talent.

And I think I remember watching him back. whenever we were watching the entire. thing. So then he scores, I'm like happy. for him, my dude. And then all of a. sudden, starts playing. I'm like, >> "Wait a minute. Holy [ __ ] man." You. know, and first sergeant Gartland uh. who's also from Plumbboro, Pittsburgh. area. He also has had friends uh that. have gone to West Virginia. He. understood and we just holy [ __ ] in the. whole 35,000 plus just singing it. And. uh that was a cool moment. It was. electrifying in there. Brisbane gets a. big win over the Hawthorne Hawks. I'll. tell you what, they were not happy with.

the officials, which there were many a. lot of lot of lot of refs. >> Yeah, makes sense. Figure 10. Very large. field. >> What kind of calls do they make? What. kind of are there penalties? How's that. >> when the ball goes out off of who? When's the throw? When's the start? I I. don't think I fully comprehend when what. is happening because every once in a. while they blow the whistle and the ball. go the other team and it's like, well, what that looks pretty standard. And. then every once in a while they blow a. whistle and there'd be people pissed. So, I've been trying to figure out what. people are pissed. like is that. Hawthorne people that are mad about what. just happened and then 35 45 seconds.

later cuz there is you know like in. soccer we've heard from the soccer. players when they're flopping around. it's not just like they're flopping. around it's also like hey take a. breather boys we're running like seven. miles here this is uh this is a little. bit of a dramatic moment for us to have. a timeout when we don't really have a. timeout feels like that happens a little. bit in Aussie rules whenever there's a. catch and the whistle's blown and they. got like 30 seconds that thing was at. zero multiple times 30 second countdown. clock zero in This guy's halfway in his. runup still. It's like, >> okay, so this is a little bit of like.

the. >> Yeah, you can kind of Let's get a little. bit of a breather here. It I'll tell you. what, if they're off ball, >> they're really handsy. And by handy, I. mean, >> beating the [ __ ] out of each other. >> Danny Zork, I think Zorks. Danny Zor, it. was they were calling him Zorks. I don't. know if his last name was Zorks or not. It was his 300th game. 8% of Aussie. football players make it to 300 games. They were honoring this guy. They had 4x. bottles with him on it. T-shirts on, signs outside were him be right before.

the game starts. They're on the field. They're about to do the bouncing center. I half a second, maybe two seconds. before the game starts, he's at one of. the ends. Guy from the other team. punches him in the throat right in his. throat. He's [ __ ]. literally as you can do. Can you do. that? >> I don't do anything. I don't. And then. the guy from the other team like starts. like pushing him like while he's doing. like they like start pushing him like it. was this guy's night. Like literally. they're [ __ ] doing a badge of honor. Maybe it's like hey 300th game we got to.

punch him. >> right before the game starts. God. punched him right in the [ __ ] throat. It was right in front of me cuz I saw it. happen. I'm like god that they're so. cheeky behind like that is such like a. cheap move right there. But everybody. just kind of does it. I think from what. we learned from watching like they're. punching each other getting up and it's. like oh I'm going to get you next. And. they do and it's like that's kind of how. the game is played. Dude got punched. right in the throat right it was his. night. >> and Zoro just kept going. Zoro. >> that's why Zoro was a code. >> I think Zoro did did take a moment. though like.

I was like holy cuz I saw somebody get. hit. They were so far away I didn't know. who it was and I was like watching him. like for the first couple minutes of the. game like really struggle and then he. got closer. I was like that's [ __ ]. Zors. That's the guy we're honoring and. I I guess he probably should have. expected that. Oh yeah. Big celebration, huh? Boom. Just right to the throat. It. was crazy. >> That's going to hurt. >> Absolutely crazy. They had a guy They. had a guy um on the other team. He was. number 18. >> I forget his name. His first quarter, he.

was unbelievable. >> First quarter, it was clear that. Brisbane just needed to stop this. [ __ ] guy. >> Punch that guy in the. >> This guy's [ __ ] bingo. I'm like, how. is this guy just allowed to just walk. around right now? Like, we are not. checking this guy through the boards, right? What What do we Can we not help. this? This guy took over the first. quarter and I had a couple Hawthorne. Hawks fans around me. I'm like, is this. [ __ ] is this the guy? Is this the. greatest player of all time? >> Was it Mavia Ch. >> Ch? Yeah, he he came up through the. Brisbane Academy. He's from Brisbane. >> Then he goes to the Hawthorne Hawks. game. >> The Hawthorne Hawks fans tell me he's.

hit or miss. When he's on, he's the guy. When he's off, it's it's nothing. It's. nothing. >> And he was on there for that first. quarter. >> We didn't see him the next three. quarters, though. >> Oh, that's classic. That's classic. >> Yeah. >> Brisbane Lions, though. They I think. they shut him down a little bit. I mean, I assume the boys once they saw the. replay of Zoro getting punched in the. throat and getting pushed over, they're. like, "No, not on Zoro's night.". >> Kyle Lman had two big goals. Kylo man. had a great mullet, great flow. >> Nice. >> He showed up at set the next day. Scored.

two goals. >> Nice. >> You guys need Hey, you guys, you guys. need another role here. >> I'm sitting there in the middle of the. entire scene. I look over. Good game. last night, guy. Proud of you, buddy. >> Oh, Lman's got good flow. >> Great flow. A lot of moxy, too. When he. showed up, everybody had to look, you. know, like gez, what the [ __ ] is that? Did the other Aussies who were working. there say like, "Holy [ __ ] God, >> there he is. >> I'm [ __ ] a rogue bike.". >> Oh yeah, >> that's where I learned the. >> the beef. >> Yeah, that's where I learned the entire. thing cuz there was a lot of Aussies. There's extras. Uh there was Aussie.

production people, audio people, >> like everybody basically was a lot of. people. >> Yeah. >> So they were so cool, man. The Aussie. human is a good one. That's a That's I. think a genuinely a good tough. I think. they're all kind of tough. all seemingly have personality and I. don't think they really they're not. about to [ __ ] about much, you know? I. think it's uh I think it's very much. straight to it. >> Yeah. The food, AJ, I'm still worried to. eat. >> I'm I'm like very worried that my entire. insides are going to be destroyed.

>> I'm still I'm still very angry about. that entire conversation, but that's. okay. >> Yeah. I didn't expect you to get riled. up like that, >> dude. It is the. >> Then you pointed out like that I should. be mad. I'm like, I guess I should be that I can't. >> I was bummed out that we don't have it, but it didn't move me to anger. >> Yeah, but it was very nice to just be. able to go. I appreciate you kind of. separating that. >> Yeah, it did move me to anger. To. clarify, >> you sit down at a cafe in Brisbane. I. don't know what it is everywhere. I'm. just talking about Brisbane. And it's. just like everything you're ordering is. like the nicest quality of whatever. The.

coffee, the eggs, the bacon, the [ __ ]. potatoes, the sweet potato, everything. The granola, the acai, the everything is. just like. >> good. Yeah. >> Everything's like the freshest of. quality. Love that. >> And the pizza, everything. We tried our. best to feel like [ __ ] Like we're going. to go eat the fried stuff. And it turns. out it was all healthy fat stuff cuz. it's a certain oil that is like. healthier than everything else. And it's. like, am I have we been doing it wrong? I'm not going to say that. >> Sounds like it. >> No, >> we definitely.

What are they cooking with? Ghee. Are. they cooking with ghee? Uh, you know, I. didn't ask enough. I I was tallow. I was. certainly talking and trying to learn as. many stories as possible, but I didn't. catch the broth that they were cooking. in. >> No, I know Steak and Shake puts their. new fries tallow. I don't know how much. they're doing that in Australia, but. they might be. >> I mean, there was fries over there. >> Pretty good. >> You know where they do lack, I will say. outside of Tim Tams, their sweets suck. >> Okay. >> Yeah, we went into sweets. >> Another reason. >> we're pumping really.

>> another reason everyone's fake. really. good stuff. Yeah, I guess that is. another. >> Damn it. >> Yeah. >> See, >> they can't win the sugar battle against. us because we [ __ ] we're cool with. whatever going. >> Yeah, that's what really stinks. And now. I'm thinking about in my head cuz I'm. like trying to think of like what. restaurants in India are the freshest. You know, what has the best. >> Well, I think it's Debbone's kitchen. You're probably right. >> You need to head to Debbone's kitchen. Last night, we got a life tip from. Debbone. We do hope these become a. regular thing. Boy, society [ __ ]. needs it. cooking tip, he says, if you.

don't know, uh, put frozen pizza in an. oven while it preheats to get a head. start, of course, opposed to waiting for. the oven to reach desired temperature. #. lifehack. #you welcome, says Debo. Now, we all know what happened here, cuz we. are humans that exist in the same world. as Debbone. He uh sets the preheat, stands there for 30 seconds, says, "I'm. not [ __ ] coming back here.". >> Yeah, >> I'm putting it in now. >> Mhm. And then I'm gonna walk away. He's.

a little bit too lazy to take another. trip back to the oven. But also in my. mind, getting a head start. >> That's right. >> Getting a head start. And then whenever. he uh gets it out of the oven, probably. earlier than it's supposed to be. He. actually likes it that way. I like a. little softer. >> I like a little soft. >> Wasn't that he couldn't wait any longer. >> Yeah. No, it wasn't that he get out. early. Why does he have to get out so. early? >> Well, I think he just looked at it. Look, the pepperoni is shining. So, let. me go ahead and buy it. But the. individual cheese slices didn't melt. So. he's given out life hacks on how uh most.

people do operate that, you know, maybe. are a little bit um. lazier. I would consider myself one of. these people. Whenever I saw this as a. life hack, I thought to myself, is this. the first time that he has made a frozen. pizza? And then he assures us that no, this is a. >> And it's c he's certainly right. That is. not the first time he's made a frozen. pizza. He did. He was shocked when I. told him like, "Hey, I know you like it. a little softer." Like that crunch. you've been getting. Like you don't have. to eat the cardboard underneath the.

pizza, too. Like you can just eat the. pizza on its own. It's not one. >> piece. >> Yeah. Cuz it does come together, especially if it's soggy on the bottom. cuz you put it in whenever it was 100°. >> Exactly. >> And you only had it cooked for however. short of time. You can you can see how. he can confuse that. >> Correct. >> He folds it into the pizza and it's just. cardboard fold in half. He's like, "Wow, cooked it good.". >> Didn't look right. But I I mean I guess. >> love Debbone. >> Okay. >> Truly love Debbone. >> Feels like. >> this is the fattest [ __ ] thing I've.

ever heard someone. >> What are you talking about? It's a hack. >> Respectfully respect. And I know and I. know it's a life hack. And the reason I. think it's okay is because I am 40% sure. now he used to just eat the frozen. pizzas frozen. Just. >> you like that he he at least heats them. up a little bit. I. >> I think he is taking steps. He's told us. >> it was a pizza popsicle that was. rounded. >> That's what I mean. Like I think he used. to just chomp on these [ __ ] frozen. pizzas like they were the, you know, cookie ice creams and he was just loving. it. And now he's decided, you know, I.

could I could [ __ ] eat it up a little. and then I can eat the cardboard. >> He did tell us that he used to just he'd. eat just frozen hot dogs. Not kidding. This is this is no I'm not reading. He. did say that like straight face sucking. on them like frozen crinkle fries. >> He he says all these things with such a. straight face. You never know what's a. work and what's a shoot. And we still. don't because he put out a tweet. Make. sure to like and comment below if you. guys want to see more cooking tips in. the future.

>> We don't know if it's a work or or a. shoot. I don't think Debo knows. But we. do know we need more life hacks from. this young lad. >> Without a doubt. >> He's experienced a lot of life. So. whenever he's chitchatting about it, we. need to listen. >> Yeah. Allegedly, he's got a real good. one with Killock. I uh think he's doing. it later as far as when he's going to. unveil that life hack. What's that? >> Uh, a kill. >> Yeah. >> I'm still not sure. I'm waiting for him. to explain it to me, but that is why I'm. excited for. >> Yeah. >> Okay. Sounds like this is something you. do know. >> Yeah. >> I swear I don't.

>> The way you delivered it was as if it. was something that. >> a little bit a little bit. >> I think I made a a few jokes back at the. old office about all the kill socks. around my own apartment, but I'm pretty. sure. >> Are those the superstarchy ones? >> Well, no. Those are See, I'm pretty sure. I was using it in a different term than. what Debo. >> Are you talking about delivering seed to. these things? Boy, >> that that is what I think Debbone is. alleging. Yes, >> Foxy, is this what's happening in your. department? What the hell is going on? >> No, but I'm expecting uh chicken nuggets. will be Debbone's thing. That is my.

prediction. >> You should put ketchup. Think about this. with. >> I don't think he would even do that. >> You're right. He's not. >> I was just reminded of your growth. though. You just talking about that cuz. you just spit on your walls. >> Yeah, exactly. Is just. just in the middle of my bedroom. >> Forgot all. >> The landlord was so happy. >> That was That house was the biggest [ __ ]. hole. >> The landlord. >> You guys should have been condemned out. of that house. >> If we're going to get into this, the. landlord was a piece of [ __ ] because. half the time when I was half the time. when I was sleeping in my room, all I.

heard was [ __ ] mice under my bed. running around. >> Yeah, the pub the pub was certainly dead. long before you guys. >> He ended up kicking us out. I thought. that was [ __ ] too. >> Yeah, >> he saved your lives. I try to buy it. every now and then. Just. >> reminisce. >> Say, "How you doing? Good to see you. How you doing?". >> No, you're not. >> Is it still standing? >> Oh, yeah. It's still standing. I mean, the the stop sign's still there, too. That I mean, that's what that Look, I'm. a pretty good painter. That's what that. is. I And I went back and checked and it. looks just like that still. >> That's Zitto's old car.

>> That's Zitto's Kia. >> Okay. >> Oh, that's the front of beer bottles. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Smokes. There's no sigs. >> and the football stuff. Oh, they're in. that uh uh Yeah, we were. >> There's also a peed right there. >> I do remember that football. Yeah, there. is a little. >> Wait, is this just This is a painting of. you like looking out the window or. staying on the POV. >> Yeah, dude. This is where my my bedroom. was. There was nothing in the front. hall. So, I had to hang up two curtains. and uh I slept on zoom out to zoom back. in, folks. Really get the effect. >> Well, I was going to get Connor and then.

I was like, wait, we're talking about. the paintings. >> Ken Burns effect on that. Yeah, that. stop sign back there was a good display. of strength for a football throw. >> Was very fun doing that. That was a good. time. That place was disgustingly. terrible, though. >> So bad. >> Yeah. All right, let's uh before we get. out of here, we got to cover. >> the [ __ ] that we should cover because. we're a sports show. >> Hell yeah. >> You know what time it is, AJ? >> What time is it? >> It's 2:38 Eastern. About to be 2:30 now. >> Yep. >> And uh it's the perfect time to do the. news. Don't you think, age? >> I think it is the perfect time.

>> Let's do the news. What have we not. covered? Go ahead, Connor. >> Here we go. Start in Indianapolis. Actually, Chris Ballard yesterday gave a. speech kind of about Anthony Richardson. after, you know, making Danny dimes, which I believe, you know, you called. him a dog earlier. I feel like Danny. Doberman might have legs. Uh, but the he. gave a press conference about it. Here. it is. >> We knew it was going to be a little bit. of a roller coaster. Absolutely. I mean, you know, just his history in college. Um, and so that's just part of the. growth. No, you got to sometimes you got.

to take a swing. We took a swing and and. look, I'm not ready to say that we. missed cuz I don't think we have yet. I. think Anthony has a bright future. I. believe that. >> Okay, so he's chitchatting about Anthony. Richardson in the swing that they took. on and obviously Danny Dimes being named. a starter. So Anthony is yet again to uh. relegated to a backup role. This is. obviously following multiple years of. injuries, not a lot of football. Some. magical moments that showcase a great. athleticism, but then some moments that. make you think this guy doesn't know.

ball. I I'm intrigued by it all. Danny. Doberman a guy these Colts got a shot. What are your expectations? AJ, >> honestly, the Danny Doberman, I mean, that might have a little bit of a ring. to it. I I'm not completely So, like I. think Danny Dimes could absolutely be a. guy. I really do. I think he could be. have the whole, you know, revitalize his. career at Indie, but I guess the only. thing we have that's not going in his. favor is that they've tried this for. what, the last six, seven years with. different quarterbacks and just hasn't. worked out yet. But maybe Danny Dimes. could be the guy to turn around. He. there's a lot of a lot of people's uh.

jobs relying on this. Don't you think. >> it's been a long time of this this whole. thing? >> Seven years. >> Quinton Nelson's entire career. basically. He's been involved. >> He seems he's bummed out. >> He's been out a couple years. He's he's. couple quarterbacks bummed out ago, >> you know. But hey, maybe this is the. one. >> Exactly. Maybe. >> Maybe this is the one. >> I think it is. >> And to Chris Ballard, I think so too, Tone. To Chris Ballard's point, Anthony. Richardson is going to get an. opportunity. We assume Danny Dime is not. going to be able to play all uh 17. games. There's a chance that Anthony.

Richton plays and if he plays good, who. knows what the future looks like for. him. But it's like understanding all of. the, you know, quarterback's roles, leadership, knowing what to do, checks, audibles, all that. You heard Chris. Ballad in a press conference also talk. about what Danny Dimes can do with the. play, what he can do at the line, put us. in the right position, put us in the. right play. You heard that be said a. couple times. And it's like, well, he's. a veteran, so hopefully his experience. will help him. And hopefully Anthony. Richardson will be able to gain some. experience by watching him. And.

hopefully this team that has a lot of. talent on it. There's a lot of talent on. this team. A lot of money been spent on. this team. Maybe they're able to get a. go. But the quarterback, you know, conversation is certainly going to be. loud throughout the entire season. And. if it doesn't go well for the Colts, I. think it's all going to look very. different next year. >> Yeah. I mean, that's the big thing is, hey, let's let's see it. Because if we. don't see it, guess what? We're going to. be seeing a whole lot of new faces in. Indianapolis. >> I think there is a chance that that's on. the horizon. Now, I don't know. Obviously, we've haven't seen the three. daughters as owners yet. We don't know. exactly how they're going to operate. Everything that they do is setting a new.

precedent, but Carly Ers at her press. conference was like, "We're not just. trying to win games. We're trying to be. the best." And everybody knows what the. standard is. We have not lived up to. that standard. They have the opportunity. to still do as such. And it's like that. sounds like, uh, hey, we need to roll. here or we're going to try to redo this. I'll be excited to see how it all plays. out. But if it's another year of. disappointment here, I think you gota, you know, nobody likes to do that. But. it's at some seven years. Yeah. Of just. question marks and then like, hey, we. have a good team. We spent a lot of. money. Well, actually, we don't because.

we don't have the one position that we. need. We spent a fourth overall pick on. a guy who's the most athletic guy maybe. to ever come into the league. Well, he. just can't figure it out. Golly, it's. just it it's just a neverending Oh, no. And then Gardner Mchu almost leads the. team to the playoffs. Shane Styen's a. genius. Any anybody that Shane Styen has. is going to be successful. We'll bring. in Flacco. He just brought the Browns to. the playoffs. He doesn't do well. It's. like, oh no, what is wrong? I assume. Ballard's asking the same questions. You. know, I I assume he's wondering what the. hell is going on, but there's a chance. this year as always with every year.

>> looking at that schedule. That's a 4. and2 start for sure for the Colts. You. you you win a couple of those home. games, you know, you get the Dolphins, you get Tennessee, you get Vegas, and. you get Arizona. That's a 4-2 football. team. Yeah, that's what I'm talking. about. That's what I'm talking about. Super positive. And the Dolphins, what. was Stanford Steve stat that he uh that. he sent that makes Dolphins fans feel. good? >> Just two when he's healthy, they're. good. Kind of what everybody knows, you. know. >> No, I thought there was another one. >> It had to be more complex. >> There was another.

I mean, I don't think so. I think that's. what he sent me. >> Had to be another. >> There was someone with a little more. context. Gumpy. Gumpy read the thing and. said, >> "Thanks, Stanford, Steve.". >> That's definitely what happened. >> Best win percentage last two seasons. among all quarterbacks with 20 starts. when two of starts. >> Mhm. >> That's good. >> Yeah. >> Best best ever. >> Best old line he's probably ever had. >> Are the Dolphins back? >> Uh secondary has some questions. We. signed some guys, but I I'm I'm quietly.

optimistic all of a sudden. >> We'll find out week one, won't we? >> Yeah. It's been a long time since the. Colts have won on week one as well. Yeah, it's not really our thing, but. coming down to a lot house. Good luck. >> We are underdogs. We are underdogs. >> That's Danny Doberman football. >> Is Waller playing? >> Waller is said he is good to go. Although he hasn't practiced or taken a. snap. >> He's a problem. >> 18. >> What's he doing if he hasn't practiced. or taken a snap? >> Just getting ready. Getting back into. football shape. >> Okay. >> Be there week one.

>> He'll be ready to go. Yeah. Oh, >> okay. >> I mean, both those teams, [ __ ] they. both need. That's what's kind of sweet. about this year is that there's just. teams it feels like that are on there, hey, if this isn't the year, it's. getting blown up and instead of in past. years where like I think last year was. the what, eight new head coaches and now. this year it's like, hey, there could be. eight new head coaches if because. Arizona you could throw them in. >> Giants. >> Giants. Arizona. >> Yep. >> Cool. >> Dolphins. >> Dolphins. >> There's four right there. >> that are just like, "Hey, let's see.

We're going to have to see it." Yeah. Or. this shit's coming to an end. And that's. just the nature of the beast. >> I mean, you could argue Laflur after. what Schneiderman said yesterday. >> Yeah. And Gutskun. >> And Gutskun. Yeah. >> Yeah. Ed Policy's coming in and taking. after Carman Policy and saying, "Listen, there's a new sheriff in town and it's. me.". >> Yeah. That's five teams right now. >> Not quite the same, but if the Cowboys. have a really bad year, I could see them. getting rid of Shotti and and reopening. that up. >> Yeah. similar to that like the Titans if. the GM thinks he's you know Cam Ward's a.

generational talent and then you know. Callahan and them they end up going he. looks like [ __ ] and everything you could. see the Titans maybe I mean after the. Patriots did the one and done I mean and. there's been other teams but after they. did the one and done last year I feel. like now it's possible for anyone just. to say [ __ ] it if the right guys. available. >> wild world all right let's do some more. news what else have we not talked about. con man. >> uh a team that is not looking for a head. coach would be the Detroit Lions last. week MCD DC said, "Hey, look, this is. the best team we've had top to bottom.". Which everyone kind of knew once they.

released Skipper, John Skip, Skip. Uh. but actually, uh what MC Yeah. Oh, yeah. He got released back the way you back. >> I'm just saying skip skip. We all know. Skip, even though we probably all. shouldn't know Skip. So, you know how. much that means to MCDC. So, I figured. look if they feel good enough to release. him, probably has some good players. But. they did mention MCDC said, "Hey, look, uh, there's a chance Penn Su could uh, play tight end." Fox, could you run that.

video, please? >> There is nothing he can't do. I've said. this before. If if we just made him a. tight end, I think he'd be a Hall of. Fame tight end. >> It's crazy. >> I mean, he is a freakish athlete. Just. nimble, nimble, athletic. >> Is there one thing over, you know, couple years with him that you're like, damn, only he can do that? >> Well, I I would answer only he can do. everything. >> Yeah. And that's that's probably would. be my answer. There is there is no. limitation on him. Like there's things, you know, whether it's the screen game, it's the run game as you talk about the.

one-on- ones, turn the whole protection, just let him go one-on-one jumbo, make. him a jumbo tight end, let him throw, hand him a reverse. And it's one of. those things. It's no different than you. do with um like we do with our personal. man. We got St. Brown, you got JMO, you. got Gibbs, you got But like he's he's. very much a part of that. like he allows. us to do so much schematically. >> Yeah, >> that's really, you know, he's part of. this secret sauce, man. We can do a lot. We can do the G, we can do the wide zone. skiing, we can do gap, we can do the pin.

and pull, we can do uh crack tosses. I. mean, and that's really because of him. >> And you usually get a front row seat to. seeing him speed bump a DB. >> Oh my god, it's fast. Yeah, you're not. going to maneuver out of his way. >> What was that? Was that a bug on the. windshield? >> A few moments later. I think you caught. the ball on like the right sideline last. year and you were doing you were like. making moves like for real. >> So yeah, that one was against Chicago. I. was supposed to throw it, but um. >> you're not stepping out of bounds. >> No, I told coach I was like, "Yeah, this.

the only time I get the ball, so I'm. going to keep it as long.". >> I know you guys want me to throw it. away, but I'm I'm going to try to make. some. >> Shout out to the Green Light Podcast. Chris Long, obviously Super Bowl. champion multiple time, getting great. interviews up there in Detroit. I love. how much MCDC openly loves his player. Now, that was the first draft pick of. this era, right? >> Yes, sir. >> Okay. They all I could think of that. entire time is when Penny's deal is up. Like, he just said, "Our entire offense. goes because of this guy." So, they're. just going to have to pay him the most. that's ever been paid and just 1 million. more than the most it's ever been paid.

and let's just move on because of that. glowing endorsement. And who knows how. Penny will handle all that. But, what a. perfect first draft pick whenever you're. trying to set a culture, AJ. It sounds. like they got it right up there. >> Oh, they definitely got it right. And. just listen to Dan Campbell say he he. can legit do everything. Like how many. offensive linemen that are that big can. can move like that. I think people like. casual fans would be surprised to see. how how athletic some of these big dudes. really are. Most of them in the NFL a. lot of D linemen played running back in. high school were on the 4x1 track team.

Like they did all kinds of stuff. They're they're much more athletic than. people think. But Penn Soul is like a. different level to that. Like how would. you cover him? Like what do you do? >> What's the one thing he does that you. think nobody else can do that? Well, I'd. answer that by saying everything. He he. can do everything. That was a great. answer by MCDC. In the moment, brain. always firing. That is tough to account. for. That's tough to account for when. you got a 360 lb guy. H how Foxy, you. guys love him up there as so.

>> absolutely love him. Fan favorite. He. was one of the pillar pieces to change. this whole thing. Like you said, our. first draft pick. And then in that same. class was St. Brown. They did pay both. those guys already. Made St. Brown the. highest paid wide receiver at that time. at the Detroit draft right before it. And then same with Sul, highest paid. lineman. And to your point, they're just. going to have to pay him again, make him. the highest paid people. But that same. draft class is where Micah Parsons was. picked as well. And it feels like that. was so long ago that they paid those. guys. And we're still dealing with this. Micah Parson [ __ ]. >> So on the second year of his new deal,

>> and he was drafted the same year as. Micah. >> Yeah. And you hear how Jerry's talking about. Maka and you hear how MCDC is talking. about Penny. It's like. >> exactly. >> one really really really loves each. other. One seemingly perfect draft pick. >> Yeah. And that's why it's like the the. Lions are the one team that are in prime. position to screw over Jerry even more. Like they should pay Hutch right now. Yeah. And then see what what happens. with Micah in Dallas cuz if they play. Hutch before Micah, I mean that that. could actually blow the whole thing up.

The only thing is that it could come. back and [ __ ] him because then Jerry. will say, "Oh, okay." and send him to. Green Bay so that they have to play. against him twice a year. >> I kind of like that scenario. >> They like Detroit pissing off Jerry. >> Yeah. >> So Jerry's saying North, huh? >> Oh, really? Okay. >> Well, congratulations. >> All right. >> I watched first three minutes of that. documentary. Tone uh Diggs basically. forced me to watch it. He goes, "You. need to watch the Cowboys win." They're. calling it the best sports documentary. of all time, brother. >> Awesome. I mean, when you have Michael,

like I' I've talked about Michael Irvin. and all the the personalities, like. those guys know how to tell a story and. they did a great job editing everything. together. I thought it was great. >> Yeah. Just the first three minutes him. talking about, >> you know, he how much production he had. with the oil business because it's. gambling and only the Lord knows what's. down there. You're going miles down into. earth and only God knows what's down. there. So, you got to get lucky. And he. said something about his mouth could get. him more borrowed money than he could. make. He was $50 million in debt. His. wife was calling his father-in-law.

wondering about how he's going to make. it. Is this guy going to be okay? Thought he was going to die. Then one. rig came along. $800,000. It was. >> Soon as he went in there, it coughed a. little bit. You know, it is a living. spirit. It breathed. >> It spit like a mammal. >> It spit like a mammal. >> And then I heard it start to hiss and. that thing was screaming. I made $100. million off that one rig. What a moment. >> Said, "Jerry, you just bought the Dallas Cowboys. I. know exactly what I want to do with that. money. >> Good for him, >> dude. There's a there's a bunch of that.

The the the best part, the reason people. I think at least are saying it's the. greatest documentary of all time is just. because all of the interviews. Like that. was the toughest part about the SEC show. is that the characters that kept popping. up in that show weren't the main. characters of what we were talking. about. Like when Michael Irvin and Troy. Aman and Dion and Jerry and Jimmy. Johnson are the ones that are basically. the whole show. I mean, Charles Haley, he comes in for sure during it. They. tell a great story about how when he.

wanted more money, he walked into. Jerry's office, pulled his dick out, and. pissed on the GM's desk, and then left, and then he got paid. So, a lot of. people were saying, "Do that." Uh, Micah, but just the entire kind of. backstory with Jerry is. >> Charles Haley walked into Jerry Jones. office. You'll get there. Walked in. Jerry Jones office, >> stood on the desk, >> took his dick out, took a piss, left, and got a new deal. Um, but and actually. now I like I kind of like what we did. He did what it was like a fourminute.

piss too. >> It was how it was how he got out of San. Francisco. It's how he got to the. Cowboys. That's what I was about to say. He did that in San Francisco then got. traded to the Cowboys. >> Oh Jerry. >> I forget if it was a Sam Fran situation. Yeah. But that's how he got out and then. Micah could do that maybe. >> Charles Haley um is a very he's a very. unique human being. Watch the doc twice. >> Yeah. Definitely want to listen. It's so. good man. I started again and and like. you said that clip at the start just. pulled me back in. I was like, "Fuck it. I'm watching this all over again." It's.

so good, man. >> All right. I can't wait to watch. I'm. >> cuz it's a lot about that NerS team, too, with like Jerry Rice and Steve. Young as well. It tells their story. policy. >> Yeah. >> Mhm. >> Ed, I was unaware of the entire Jimmy. Johnson stuff. And if that happened. nowadays, people would lose their mind. >> Yeah. >> Fired after. >> two Super Bowl wins. >> Yeah. And then that story is incredible. >> Yeah. >> Fighting with the owner going in. fighting with the owner the week of the. Super Bowl like in the media too. Like. both of them saying things about each.

other like it was a it's a weird time. >> They had that moment at the Hall of. Fame. Was that two years ago? >> Yeah. >> Where Troy A was kind of. >> They're back. Yeah. >> It's really cool. How they're back now. finally. >> Yeah. That was I I didn't I don't think. until that day did I realize that it was. as big as it was. And then you could. tell Troy was like, "This isn't a TV. show. We finally got these two at the. same table. Hey, can we uh can we. potentially do this entire thing? Big. hugs. You know, we did a lot together. >> because they talk the players were mad, too. They love Jimmy and they were. pissed off at Jerry for doing that.

>> Yeah. Like it makes a lot of sense now. cuz Troy and Jimmy benched Troy for. Burline. And that's when after that. season, Jimmy and Troy became like very. close because then Jimmy realized like, oh, Troy is also as competitive as I am. And that's kind of when they became like. a like a team because Jimmy Johnson. talks about how one time a guy came off. the field and he cut him on the spot. during a game. And he he said he said, you know, a lot of guys say, you know, releasing players is the hardest part of.

the job. Not for me. I don't care. And. and he he. >> Jimmy Johnson. >> Jimmy Johnson. Yeah. It it it's that. good. It's that candid. Like Jerry Jones. talking about when he was suing the NFL. and the owners asked him to leave while. they talked about him was is very very. definitely another. >> I can't wait to watch it. I'm going to. do that. >> And then Barry Switzer comes in. >> and he doesn't give a [ __ ]. >> Awesome. >> Yeah, Switzer. I think he's the best character. Jerry's. the star obviously, but Barry Switzer is.

[ __ ] hilarious. >> Lightning rod. >> He just he he did not care about. anything, but all the players loved him. normally goes hand in hand. As long as. you're as authentic as you are, >> uh like genuine, I think you're in a. good spot. If you're fake, players hate. you. That's like the biggest thing. If. you are who you are all the time, players like Rich Rod here, like we're. talking about it. He was always like. that. So, it's like when you leave, you. have a love for that and appreciation. and respect. >> Respect it too. Like you can't just be a. dick and not have be respected. Like.

it's one thing to be a dick. If you're a. if you're a coach that's like the hard. driving dictator type coach and guys. don't respect you, it's never going to. work. Like they have to respect you as a. man and as a coach. >> That's part of the whole thing. I was. asked uh uh now I got a good story, but. I'll I'll save it for later. It's a good. story we'll save for later. Go. >> from set. It was a good story. >> You know, cuz am I a method actor or. not? >> Time will tell. >> Can't wait to find out. >> There's a lot of dudes. >> Daniel D. Lewis.

>> So much like in real life at boot camp, I would assume anytime the drill. instructor is doing his thing, like the. recruits are all thinking like, can we. beat him up? You know, like if push came. to shove, could we beat him up? Drill. instructor needs to let everybody know. they can't. Like that is you cannot. You. would never be able to. Don't even. [ __ ] think it. Natural human instinct. though whenever you're getting yelled at. by somebody especially if you're trying. to be a marine who probably have a.

little bit of a dog mentality your. natural thought is I could beat the [ __ ]. out of this guy if I wanted to. especially with what's happening that. happened on set the actor started. wondering like if they could fight me. and I was like this is this is good this. is exactly how it's supposed to be you. know like you are supposed to feel and. also no I would beat the [ __ ] out of. people okay that is it was uh it was. like a cool it felt like a real life, you know, like it really did cuz there. was like uh you know there's like boot. camp there's a fight scene in there and. the drill instructor is telling them to.

fight each other and like I have to get. I have to you're you're going to have to. fight like this is something so for some. of these guys it's their first ever. fight you know so like that's kind of. the whole thing and it's like this. really happened this was real life that. was taking place like hey in six weeks. from now you're not just going to be. here fighting somebody this is knives b. like we are. >> killed hand to hand combat is happening. So like you need to get punched in the. face. Okay, that has to happen. You have. to feel what this is like. But also you. have to be able to So there's a lot that.

was a very intense day I will say. And. the things that I was saying to said. actors, you know, in the moment to get. them, you know, motivated to go. It was. funny just like in between takes, you. know, like they come up to me, >> do you think any of us could fight you. >> and win? >> No, absolutely not. And then first. sergeant Gartland's like none of you. He's like he because he's been a actual. driller, right? It's like that was like. a real life moment. Like definitely like.

I could see that happening very easily. And I like laughed cuz I got along with. all those dudes. >> afterwards, but it's like on the set. it's like these dudes probably did were. like [ __ ] this guy. Like this is it was. like a Stanford it was like a Stanford. uh. >> prison experiment. >> Yeah, it was it felt like that in the. middle of it. And I was, you know, [ __ ]. >> I was acting as such. We have an update. here from Adam Shfter. Uh, several teams. have spoken to the Dallas Cowboys about. a potential Michael Parson Michael. Parson's trade. And for the first time, the Cowboys appear willing to at least.

listen. Sources tell Todd Archer and. Damiano. Wow. And Adam Sher, wow. So Ty Schmidt. said yesterday, he said, "There's an. offer on the table and Jerry Jones just. isn't ready to listen to it yet." Here. we are about 26 hours later and now. allegedly Cowboys are willing to listen. Ty, is that a zipper burn over there? >> Well, I'm not going to get ahead of. myself. Not yet. This is kind I kind of. have talked this into my head into.

thinking like, hey, listen, Micah. Parsons is going to be playing for the. Packers week one against the Lions at. home. It's going to happen. It's already. a done deal. So now if t if this is like. open bidding like don't don't pussyfoot. this around. Go do exactly what I said. >> 45 50 55 60. Whatever it takes. Whatever. it takes. Two first round picks. Three. first round picks. Four first round. picks. What? >> Maybe a couple second round picks. >> You're just saying everything. >> Maybe a couple defensive starters. Maybe.

a guy like Quay Walker. >> Oo. Add him in there. >> Okay. Now you're shipping people out of. town. >> Well, they they did. That's what one of. the things Rapi thought that he they. might want a starter as well. So like. >> there's an update here. Shfter tweets. the Cowboys would like to resolve the. situation one way or another in the. coming days with their season opener. next Thursday against the Eagles and the. Cowboys hold their first full practice. in preparation for the Eagles tomorrow. And you know he's getting a second. opinion if you believe the photo from. the airport which who knows when that. photo is from but everybody's saying it.

is him getting a second opinion leaving. town yada yada yada. Joining us now. ladies and gentlemen the man that broke. that news Adam Shfter. Chef Dy, how you doing, brother? >> What's going on, guys? >> Reading your tweets uh as you're. tweeting them. Micah update obviously. big deal. Jerry said uh in an interview, I believe with Stephen A. Smith, "Don't. listen. Oh, the trade BS. I'm not with. it." Then people were reporting that he. wasn't even picking up the phone. There. was allegedly a Packers trade like kind. of already created, but Dallas wouldn't.

listen. Now you're saying they're. listening. Is this brand new news? And. how quickly could this possibly come. together? >> It's complicated because what would have. to happen here is that another team. would have to present a contract. compelling enough to Micah to make him. want to take it. At which point that. team then would have to go to Dallas to. work out compensation. And I don't think. they're at that level right now. They're. just not there. >> Other teams or Dallas?

I I don't think the conversations with. other teams and Micah and his agent are. there yet. And so. it's complicated. Like I said, there's a. lot of layers that have to happen, a lot. of um there's a certain order that has. to be followed here. And here's the. bottom line though, Pat. And the reason. the story's out there is the Cowboys. have heard from multiple suitors. There. are multiple teams, multiple that are.

interested in trying to work out a trade. for Micah Parsons. And the Cowboys at. the very least appear like they're. willing to listen. And it certainly. sounds like they want to get this. resolved in the next few days. They. practice tomorrow for the first time for. Thursday night's opener against the. Philadelphia Eagles. Obviously, unless. there's a new deal for Micah, it's hard. to imagine that he's going to be playing.

in that game on Thursday night. He was. in California yesterday getting a second. opinion for his back tightness. He. hasn't practiced all summer. He's not. going to practice tomorrow. So, how. short of him getting a deal done with. the Cowboys is he going to be out there. a week from tonight for that opener? I. don't see that. Now, if they somehow. work out a deal, I'm sure his back. tightness would feel dramatically.

better. Very cool. >> We don't know what the second doctor. obviously said, the second opinion. And. also, I got back tightness. Let me hop. on a commercial plane, fly to LA, and. maybe get a second look at it. We hope. his back is obviously healthy. He is an. electrifying football player. You talked. about other teams having to deal with uh. Micah and Mulligetta first for a. long-term contract before going to the. Dallas Cowboys to negotiate what a trade. would look like. Have the Dallas Cowboys. and Mulligette done any negotiating and. how often are those conversations taking. place fluidly throughout the year?

>> I'm glad you asked that question, Pat, because I think it's a key part of this. And. basically what I've learned is that. since. Jerry Jones had what he thought was an. agreement, what he thought was an. agreement for a deal that averaged $40.5. million a year, 5-year deal, $40.5. That. was the agreement that Jerry Jones. thought he had with Micah Parsons. We.

know what happened after that. Jerry. came out at the owner's meeting, said. that they didn't need an agent to get. the deal done. Micah Parsons came out. and said, "If we're doing a deal, you're. going to be doing it with my agent, David Mulgetta." And since then, there. have been zero conversations about a new. contract to right now. To right now, zero conversations regarding a new deal, no new offers, no new anything. >> Okay. So, let me clarify. Can I clarify.

quickly? You said that uh Jerry believes. that he and Micah made an agreement over. a handshake deal or whatever for $40.5. million a year for five years. >> Fiveyear deal. Correct. >> So what's that? 200. >> I I you know here's what I don't know. He had a year left on the deal and I. think I don't know. I think it might. have been five more at 40.5. So there it seems like I don't know. whether that included the one year or. not. That's why I don't want to give. that total number. I want to be clear. I.

know that the New Deal that Jerry. thought. they had an agreement on averaged 40.5. million a year. >> Okay. That feels like a big piece of. information. What did uh TJ stand for? 41. >> for Yeah. >> 41 million. >> But this but that that. >> was before TJ. >> It was before. >> But but that that was agreed to that, you know, in Jerry's eyes that was. agreed to way before TJ Watt had his. deal with Pittsburgh. And at that time. the 40.5.

would have made Micah Parsons the. highest paid non quarterback in NFL. >> So how come they didn't move at that. moment if they had an agreement? What. what what does Jerry say about why they. didn't move afterwards? Cuz I think. >> well again again the agent wasn't. included and so Jerry felt like Jerry. felt like he had a handshake agreement. with Michael. We've heard him talk about. the fact that when he bought the Dallas. Cowboys he had a handshake agreement. Nothing was on paper. Nothing was. written down and he shook the guy's.

hand. They looked each other in the eye. and said, "We have a deal." Jerry felt. like that was the case this time. Micah. went back and obviously that wasn't the. case. Micah is like, "Hey, you got to. talk to my agent to get the deal done.". From afar, my analysis of it is when. David Mulgetti hears about a five-year. deal when he did a three-year deal for. Derek Stingley, an agent doesn't want. his young, talented pass rusher tied. down in the prime of his career for 5. years. So, even though Mike could have. might have been shaking his head and.

saying, "Okay, Jerry, okay, Jerry, that. sounds great." Or whatever it is that he. said, the agent is that's why you have. an agent to let you do responsible. things, right? That's why the agent is. representing your interest. Mike is a 25. 26 year old young man and he's an. incredible football player, but the. truth of the matter is his agent is. probably better equipped to be handling. the length of his contract and the. details of his contract than Micah is. >> Certainly, too. Yeah, Mulligetta is the. one. You know, he's actually the one.

that uh started an entire collusion. case. I mean, he is a great negotiator. will get every single scent that's out. there in for his high-profile clients, which he has many. That's all. fascinating information. I didn't know. it was 40 and a half for five years. there. I just found that out right now. Thank you for that piece of information. So, that means other teams would have to. go probably three-year deal at 42. million now because that's what um TJ. Watts at 41. >> Yeah, it could be anything. Like, you. know, you want Micah to come to your. city, you're going to have to offer some.

money and be like, "Okay, yeah, okay, here's 42. We'll use your number, Pat. 43 44. What's the difference? Get to. that number. 42 43 44. >> Right. So, you you you want to convince. him, hey, Michael, we want you here. We're going to be willing to pay you. this amount of money. Okay, you in. I'm. in. Let's get this done. Now, it's up to. that team to go to Dallas to work out. the trade agreement, but the Cowboys. have had conversations from what I. understand with multiple teams. >> Okay. So, this what it would look like,

Tai. >> Okay. >> Potentially. Well, I mean, he's not wearing 23, but. you know, okay, sure. That. >> was his high school number. >> Like Jordan, dude, >> not said that was his high school. number. >> Oh, okay. >> 11's taking 11. >> Look sweet. >> You know what? You wear 99 or 98 or 90. He's going to be in the 90s. >> He wants Tai wants him to give him 45. million a year. [ __ ] it. Send three. first rounders down there to Dallas. Whatever it needs to get him to Green. Bay. That is where you're at right now. >> Yes, without a doubt. So, now that it's.

a possibility that it could happen, without a doubt, that'll take me from, hey, Packers are going to go to the, you. know, playoffs this year, have a nice. little season, maybe make a run to the. NFC Championship to they're winning the. whole [ __ ] thing this year. That I. mean, that's that's what we're doing. here. And, you know, uh Jordan Love's. agent just happens to be David Moletta. as well. So, you know, >> Oh, we got pretty good relationship. >> Yeah, exactly. He Let's just say he. might know Micah. Maybe he's talking to. Micah right now. Maybe they're, you. know, >> you think Jordan loves recruiting right. now? >> I think he might be. And Jerry refuses.

to talk to David, right? >> Well, at the time, I'm not talking to. Jay-Z ever again. >> They They have not had any They have not. had any contact since that time. >> So, how the hell is he going to go back? >> Yeah, we don't know. This is. >> Are they just Are each is Jerry and Mo. get to just They're waiting for someone. to reach out or what? I lost a light. here. >> Yeah. What's up? >> What happened? >> Trying to figure out what's going on. >> Uh, go ahead. >> They They need a They need a marriage. counselor. I need somebody a mediator to. step in and say, >> "Are they just waiting for someone to.

reach out?" Like, is either one say, "Hey, I'm not going to be the first. >> He'll call text or call." Is that what's. going on? >> They lose leverage. You become. desperate. You're the one that reaches. out. Everybody knows that. >> That's it. That's what it feels like. right now. Like again, no conversations. Season opens a week from tonight. Mike. is still in practice. He was in. California, the back specialist, and the. Cowboys are talking to multiple teams. Like, >> yeah, there's there's plenty to talk. about here. We'll see how it works out. I will also point out to you I will also. point out to you I don't I I really. don't know how this is going to work.

itself out. There are people who still. believe in the end Jerry is going to. step in from outside teams that Jerry's. going to step in and overpay. overpay on. Micah the way he overpaid on Zeke and CD. and Dak. They believe he'll do that. There are people within the organization. who think that Jerry is very upset and. that this is his waterlue and he's not. going to budge. And so I I don't know. what's right and what's wrong. I just.

know that we're entering a time where. it's Labor Day weekend. The Cowboys play. Thursday night. And if I go back to the. last time there was an issue a little. bit like this, Khalil Mack was traded on. the Saturday of Labor Day weekend. Oh. yeah, I remember that. >> Get him out of here. They said he's a. problem. Guy would go on have like eight. more years afterwards. Micah could go. become a legend somewhere. He said. multiple suitors though. What if the. Packers don't get him? >> What if another team gets him? So what.

if the Minnesota Vikings make a run and. get him? >> Well, they got You know what? Then. they're going to have to get rid of Van. Genkey and we'll see, you know, what. what Vikings fans feel about. >> Do you know what other teams other than. Green Bay? Do we know Green Bay? Um, I think we think Green Bay I think. we think Green Bay is one of one of. teams that have inquired. >> How many? Um, >> yeah. How many? >> I But I was told again that there are. quote unquote multiple suitors. >> Multiple. >> Two to 30. >> Yeah. Multiple is a lot. And everybody's.

going to be like, "Micah available?". Yeah. What's it going to take? >> All right. We ain't got that. >> Yeah. >> That's crazy though. All right. Good. luck. Every team's gonna have that. thought though as a fan. You go from. making the playoffs to winning the Super. Bowl. >> All right, Shy. We appreciate you. Have. a great football season. We'll see you. soon, ladies and gentlemen. >> Thank you, buddy. You look great, AJ. No. shadows at all. >> Got a little Yeah, one of my lights just. actually didn't turn off. Just got a. little dim. >> Axel eating it. >> Traitor. It's a loaf. >> It's a trader. >> It's a loaf. Axel could be out there.

gnawing on that thing. All right, tomorrow's a big day. Let's enjoy it. Tonight, big games. Let's enjoy them. I. got Nebraska. and Boise State covered. >> Okay. Okay. >> I got both the favorites. >> I don't love that. That's how I'm. starting the year. >> Why don't you take the Bulls? >> No, everybody seems that seems to be. very trendy. Seems very trendy. Everybody talking about USF being a. problem. I'm like, all right, I believe. in Boise State, I think, all of a. sudden. >> And that's nothing against USF. I'm just. saying feels like a lot of people are. saying, "Whoa, whoa, whoa." It's like. anytime that happens, it's like, well,

Boise State's hearing that as well. They're going to wake up for that. And. then Nebraska. I got faith in Ryola. I. like him. >> and rule. >> came to a WWE event. Guy's got Moxy. E. money Money too. EMTT the running back. >> We got a little bit of got a little bit. of Cook. Now Travis Kelce being in the. building for Cincinnati is. >> that's big. >> That's worse. >> Huge. >> AJ, who do you like? >> I like USF and I like Nebraska here. >> All right, boys. >> All chalk.

>> We're in this thing together. Never. forget it. Be a friend. Tell a friend. something nice that might change their. life. I appreciate you all so much. College football for real is here. We. did it. Boom. >> AJ, can't wait to see you in Ohio. tomorrow, brother. >> Oh yeah. It'll be a great day. I think. the weather's going to be a perfect. little fall day for us. >> Yes. >> Love that. >> Perfect. >> Team on me. Team on three. One, two, three. Goodbye.