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>> If you tell [music] a friend something. nice, could change their life. Hello, beautiful people, and welcome to. our humble abode, the Thunderdome. On this Thank [music] You, Pens. Thursday, April 30th, 2026, this sports. program begins now. Sports. are fantastic and obviously a. unifier in something that brings. happiness in everybody's lives, especially when your team is winning.

And that is why this particular Thursday. is called Thank You, Pens Thursday. You. know, because the Pittsburgh Penguins. led by these three icons of sport, these. three three-time Stanley Cup champions, these three who played 3,924. games together, accruing 3,974. points with 1,365. goals, three Conns Smythes, three. Hearts, 20 years together, longest-tenured trio in North American.

pro sports. And if it's over. after what happened last night, I just. want to say thank you to them. Obviously, we've developed a little bit. of a kinship with them here over the. last year or so of this entire run, both. for the Penguins and our program. Always. fan from afar, never got a chance to. really meet them. And. last night, they're saying it might be. the last time that they play. >> Oh, mhm. And uh. the people that did it to us. were the Philadelphia Flyers. Mhm. It.

was a great game. A phenomenal game. Goalies standing on their heads. Back. and forth we went. >> The boys battling. Evgeni Malkin, whenever he gets off the. bus to arrive at the arena, actually. takes two steps, and some little John. over there says, "You suck, Geno." He. looks at. It was war. They were battling on the. ice. The Pens had a chance to do. something special, but instead. in overtime. a perfectly sauced Cam York shot goes.

tink and in, and the Flyers send the. Penguins to Cancun. Now, I don't love. the immediate reaction from everybody. that is associated from Philadelphia. This was late. Obviously, this was late. Long night for. me and the family yesterday. But obviously, watch Pens-Flyers, especially with Sidney Crosby about. about to accomplish something that only. four teams had done in the past, which. is come back from being down 3-0. The. boys showed fight. The boys showed grit.

But this Philadelphia Flyers team did as. well. And last night in OT, Cam York. came. Late night. Okay, this is late. >> Mhm. Not as late. There's other games. that are later than that. Hey, sports. are really doing a number for third. shifters, you know. It's really kind of. moving along. FaceTime immediately from. Shane Gillis. Okay. Come on. My wife's sleeping. I'm not answering. that. >> Right. >> Yeah. Then I get texted immediately, "Coward." Okay. Oh. "Coward" immediately. cuz I don't answer the call. Hadn't. heard from or in the Sidney Crosby.

comeback area this entire thing. Then I. get text FROM OTHER JOHNS. "HAHA, BUM.". Gritty's dumb ass face getting sent to. me. Different AIs of Gritty doing stuff. >> Oh, come on. Really? Yeah. Gritty doing. stuff. That's gross. Not just the. Penguins, by the way. Pittsburgh heroes. Can't have it. >> I don't even want to tell you what. they're doing Mr. Rogers in some of. these photos. Seriously? >> Yeah, it's a Pennsylvania thing. These. These people know us. Okay, they know. stuff about us. >> Gardell? Don't you leave him out. >> There was no Billy Gardell slander. And. quite surprisingly, no Bret Michaels.

slander. >> Real Really? Which I will say that's. Bret Michaels. Universe of love. Yeah, that You're right. That is That is all. it is. But it got loud, and then the. Philadelphia Flyers let me know that. they've been listening. Yep. Yeah. They quote tweeted me saying. Sidney Crosby in seven from days ago. >> Mhm. before Sid started cooking and. coming back and the boys started going. crazy. Down and out. They even take our. [ __ ] in there. And they did a good job. putting the jersey on. A classic chat. GPT operation, it does appear, right.

there. So, I got massive respect for the. play. And now Governor Shapiro is going to. expect me to wear a suit. >> Yeah. Oh, yeah. Got to get one of those. Okay, got to get one of those. Certainly, once I do, I will wear it, and I'll do the entire I'll even do a. gubernatorial address. >> Okay. >> Yes, as you should. I will do one of. those in the entirety. >> Maybe enter the race. >> But I would like to say, as a person. that was saying the Flyers are ass, and. as somebody who has always gotten the. opportunity to go on a microphone and. celebrate the Flyers being ass and the.

Pens being great, I would like saying in. this moment of hustling some humble pie. And in this moment of getting a chance. to get eyes on your guys' team last. Monday when we were there. They got some dogs on this team. Yeah. They're cold-blooded. They're big, they're strong, they're. fast. This 74 character, he don't get. talked about. I never heard this guy I. didn't know this guy existed at 74. K. Tippett's his name? Almost scored in. overtime. Almost did a lot of things. I. guess he was a number one overall pick.

way back in the day. Was with the. Florida Panthers. Gets traded up to the Flyers. Obviously. the Panthers have success, okay, after. he leaves. He sees all that. This dude's. 27 years old. He's the fastest guy on. the I have never seen somebody be as. fast as this guy is. And he's orange. Mhm. He looks like the Who's old buddy. in the back of the Santa Claus not Santa. Claus a Christmas Story in the back hall. uh. uh Chris. Scotty Farkus. Scotty Farkus. Yeah. This. guy's Scotty Farkus. >> Okay. The guy that He he is Scotty. Farkus but he's faster than everybody.

He's unbelievable. They got a. 19-year-old kid that was just playing. college hockey a month and a half ago. >> Oh, yeah. >> He almost scored in overtime last night. Then they got Sanheim this guy. He. looked me in the eyes. I feel like I was. looking in the eyes of a killer. Sure. Mhm. Goalie upside down on his head last. night. Outrageous. And then the coach. Tocchet, he's a Pittsburgh Penguin hero. Yeah. Okay. So, I I don't know how now. I don't think we should just be hacking. sticks into a crowd of people. >> I think that's fair. But the Flyers.

haven't had a lot of success. >> And that's fair. And I would assume the. Flyers fan that almost got decapitated. >> grabbed that thing. I bet you that thing. was snapped in half. Multiple people. taking pieces of that home. I assume. that it's going to be a celebratory. piece. They just knocked out the. Penguins. Maybe break up the longest. tenured trio in North American sport. history from the other side of the. state. And they continue on their. journey to Lord Stanley Cup. So, I would. just like to give a shout out to the. Philadelphia Flyers for being a good. team, being a gritty team, too. Oh, yeah. I hear they're pretty good luck. base washing.

>> Sure. There's a lot of. There's a lot of shenanigans, which. there should be coming out of Philly. Head coach of the Flyers Rick Tocchet. will be joining us in about 3 4 minutes. >> Ooh. Okay. Is he running our social. media? Mhm. He might be. Hey, you got. your Twitter fingers on that thing, Rick? Is this Is this from your back. pocket just so I know? And also, hey, you know everything about the Pens, okay? Coach, these boys played the you. know everything. Do you think that. potentially helped? And is that. cheating? Should you be allowed to do. that? These are all the things I have to.

ask, but also NHL playoffs right now, five series are left after the Flyers. punch their ticket last night. The other. two series that are over were sweeps. Everything that's happening from here on. out, very very important games both in. the NHL and the NBA. Tonight, there'll. be five games. All of them have go on. implications or get your ass home. implications. The NHL, any game that's. happening, go on or get your ass home. implications. This is when playoff. sports are at its absolute finest or. worst if your team gets booted and then.

you get called a coward for not. answering your phone immediately upon. somebody wanting to celebrate in your. face. This is what sports are for. The. NFL is always cooking. They have things. happening. Major League Baseball's doing. its thing. And don't look now, Major. League Volleyball taking over. >> Hell, yeah. We got delivered a gift package today by. the Indy Ignite. They're in the Major. League Volleyball league. It's over here. in Fishers. Number one in the league. No big deal. Of course not. They got a mascot named. Pepper, okay, cuz in volleyball you have. pepper. I think baseball you guys pepper.

as well back and forth. I guess we got. the number one team in the league. They. got eight teams going to have 11 teams. Each the salaries range from. uh 65,000. to like 125,000. 16 15 16. uh women on each roster. It's like Not. bad. Pretty legit. >> That's And then we look at what's going. on with Nebraska. I think the the. attendance at this is real. >> Oh, yeah. So, I think they're I. appreciate them coming through here and. uh giving us a a gift package, but also. yeah, there it is. Hey, congratulations.

Here we go. Keep it going. Going to the off. That's Pepper right. there with the orange hair. That's the. mascot. The Everybody else on there. Bow. Boom. Bombs away. Spike it. >> Sports are the great Sports are the. great Yeah, that's right. Bombs away. Spike it. That's what I like to do. Certainly the Talking Table's here at. Boston Connor at Ty Schmidt. Boston. obviously in the middle of it all. How. do you feel, pal? How do you feel about. the playoffs? And also whenever you're. looking at games or parlays to. potentially hit, what do we need to be. seeing at this point? Cuz Philly and.

Pens a little cagey affair last night. >> Oh, yeah. Very cagey. You know, no, let's not make too many mistakes. Let's. not let's not go ahead and lose this. one. It's a big one. Felt a little bit. tighter for the Pens earlier than it had. the previous two games. Previous two. games when the Pens aren't mounting a. comeback, felt a little freer through. the entirety. Last night, I felt like it. was kind of tense. All these have. playoff implication go home or go out uh. type stuff. What would you be looking. at, Connor? And as a gambler and a fan. at the same time, what are your worries. as you go ahead? >> with the NHL, I feel like especially.

because all these series are 3-2, your. best bet is damn near hey, overtime. You. know, two of the three last night. between the Golden Knights and the. Mammoth, they went to double overtime. >> Obviously Philly versus Pittsburgh, they. go to overtime. The Canadians versus the. Lightning, they have their fourth. straight 3-2 game. They could probably. could have went to overtime. Three of. the first five have gone to overtime. So, overtime in in the playoffs. especially in these series that are so.

close, everyone's battling so much. That's probably the best bet in hockey. cuz you could say hey, we'll just take. the home team. What are we talking about. here? That that kind of seems like the. simple bet. No, it's not. Not not in. hockey. Basically every single series. has had a victory on the road already. And then with the NBA, it's it's damn. near the complete opposite. For for the. NBA, you think every other night do you. take the heavy favorite or do you take. the underdog? Last night every single. underdog covers. Only one underdog. actually wins outright with the Lakers.

losing, which is pretty nuts, but it is. very difficult to navigate these. gambling waters. >> The NBA has six series left. Obviously. last night the underdogs all covered. There were some wild spreads yesterday. We we had been chatting about how crazy. the spreads were for the playoffs. Let's. go to one half of the hammer. Cowboys AP Tone, you said yesterday it. feels like the lines were set up for how. the regular season was for these teams. as opposed to what the post season had. been. What did you see last night? Congrats to the underdogs. We love when. the dogs are Hey. barking out there, [clears throat]. brother. Yeah, we were talking about it.

yesterday just like the the Cavs and. Toronto before last night was 2-2 and. then obviously the Pistons were down 3. to 1 going in that game and they were. double digit favorites. Cavs were almost. double digit favorites. I think it. closed at 9 and a half. So, it just felt. like it was crazy and Toronto was. leading that entire game. Cleveland was. was lucky to get the win in that one. The Stones was was an absolute battle. in that one between Cade and Paolo. Banchero. >> The Stones are the Detroit Pistons. Nobody other than Evan Fox and maybe. five of his friends know that the. Pistons are called the Stones. No, Pistons fans call them that. I just. heard [laughter] that this week. Yeah,

so but but when we're talking on a show. where people are listening, I think we. should explain to them that the Stones. are not the Rolling Ones, which are an. incredible band. The Stones are what I. guess we don't know if this is true, so. we don't want to speak for Detroit. people. I guess this is what the Detroit. people call the Pistons, you know, cuz. you can see Stins right there at the. end. >> Stins. Stones. So, they get the Stones. They don't know how to spell up there. Stones, which is a little bit harder I. think than Stins. Let's go. You know, so. he probably did the Stones if I had to. guess. So, we're just letting you know,

the Stones last night were a part of. history. and two young bucks getting added in a. big way, Tone. Yeah, that was awesome. Them going back and forth last night. last night, the first time that's. happened since Shaq and AI. That was unbelievable. But tonight I. tonight feels a little bit different. Tonight's a one where it feels like the. favorite just might go ahead and get. things done. And then Connor was talking. about the NHL. It's so up and down. Um I. started looking at maybe over/unders. The over/under is normally five and a. half in a hockey game. The two games.

tonight, four of the five games in each. series has gone to the over. I'm not. saying it will tonight, just something. to look at. Okay, so we will certainly. keep an eye on that. I uh. I think what's so great right now is. sports are clearly in a huge uptick. Okay, ratings are coming out for. everything. Sports are up for. everything. NBA, most watched NBA. playoffs in 33 years. It's crazy. Congratulations. Let's go. Adam Silver obviously negotiated a deal. with so many different platforms, okay? Some people are calling it maybe the.

greatest deal that has ever been done. because the amount of money that was. obviously had and then what the ratings. were saying versus maybe some other. leagues and what had been happening in. history. Adam Silver obviously able to. get the deal done because he is maybe. not from here. We've seen him. He might. be an alien. Seemingly very very. relatable to the players, very good at. business, very forecast. type leader in this entire thing. He. gets his deal done. There was a lot of. people chirping about people overpaying, overpaying, overpaying. Everybody was. saying that about the deal.

Most watched playoffs in 33 years. Congratulations to Adam Silver saying. hey, we got it. Congratulations the NBA. figuring it out. All the teams, all the players. I know. the 65 game rule was certainly a big. conversation piece around it all. I know. the tanking during the regular season. was a massive issue. We had like a 24. point spread a couple different times. throughout the end of the season. Can't. have that in any professional league. obviously and when teams are trying to. lose, which they're trying to take care. of now. People thought maybe the NBA was. dead and gone. Dead and gone.

But instead, they got the biggest deal. in history. So good that people say it. was a bad deal. And then now they're. putting up the biggest numbers they've. ever put up. Good for the NBA. Good for. sports. And shout out to everybody over. there for getting that done. >> Yeah, and all the stars are showing up. Like that's the biggest thing. I mean, we just saw last night Cade and you. know, Banchero, they both go for 45, but. even LeBron, him carrying the Lakers on. his own without looking at Reeves Reeves. played last night, but still getting. that 3-1 lead. SGA with a sweep. Wemby, like the biggest names are also showing. up. Very surprising, too, with the whole.

streaming conversation. Like people were. pissed going into these playing games, playoffs. Like, how the hell are we. supposed to watch all these games and, you know, pay for all these streaming. services? Like, at the end of the day, people are and they're still going to. watch it and mostly because most people. have them to begin with. The sports. being on a different streaming platform. every single night gives them something. to [ __ ] about. >> People love to [ __ ]. >> Absolutely. But Us included. Absolutely. Why not? >> We are a human. Yeah, yeah. And it's fun. most of the time. Especially when your.

team's losing. But it it has been an. incredible playoffs for both sides. >> Which I think we all kind of we and I'm. we're not saying we created this theory. or thought, but we were projecting that. the playoffs are always going to be good. for the NBA. Yeah. Cuz the playoffs is. where it's a whole second season and. that is literally where the stars are. born. If you're a big-time, big-name. player, we don't know about you if. you're only playing in the regular. season. You have to play in the playoffs. cuz everything's primetime. That's when. everybody starts watching. I know it. used to be like NBA starts on Christmas, which it certainly did for like hoop. fans, I think, and people that like.

hoops. The NBA doesn't start until. playoffs for a lot of people that aren't. hoop fans and the numbers that are only. getting bigger is good for all parties. Uh this whole lowest three get the three. to four percent. >> thing ever. Just think about how much. thought went into that. We we respect. Adam Silver a lot. And we like the. people that Adam Silver brings in to do. his think processes. But like to get to. this point, the amount of [ __ ] that had. to I mean, so many dry erase boards just. getting burned through.

>> Yeah. I mean, just so much so many math. equations I couldn't even imagine. Hopefully this will help, you know, hopefully this will only help the. product that is seemingly doing better. than it's ever done. And then for the. NHL, their numbers are up and to the. right as well. New deal for them. Bettman's got to be incredibly excited. about his league. And 2 million viewers. for the Flyers and Pens the other night. Plus 190%. year-over-year over the game five. Okay, from a previous. Going to miss. Pittsburgh. Certainly [clears throat] are. Going to miss them big time in the. playoffs. And we're still going to.

Be locked in. Yes. I mean, Eyes on puck every night. >> Sports. Why would we not be? Thank you. Thank you. Sports are the greatest. What. we're saying is sports are the greatest, okay? And we're incredibly thankful and. we appreciate the fact that it seems. like only more and more people are. getting into sports. It's good time. Go. ahead and release for a while. Go ahead. and. go ahead and put your entire happiness. on somebody else's shoulders. >> Mhm. And then when they let you down, go. ahead and feel that misery. Yeah, take a.

week. And then guess what? You got. another one coming. That's right. >> Okay, we got to get back up for the next. one. Now we got to put our hope onto. somebody. Then they're going to let us. down. Then guess what's coming? Another. one. Let's do it again. Then they're. going to do good. Now we're riding the wave. Okay, that is. what sports can do for you. We're. appreciative of everybody buying in. Now, sports can also divide. Yeah. Yeah, for sure. Every once in a. while it can kind of. divide parties into two, especially when. a competing league comes through and.

seemingly has a bottomless pit of cash. Now, over the last 24 hours, that. bottomless pit of cash, we have learned, is reportedly around $5. to create a golf league that could. potentially rival the PGA Tour or at. least provide an alternative to the PGA. Tour while poaching a lot of massive. names with massive paychecks to kind of. launch their league and start their. content company, which is what I think. LIV was trying to be. It was golf, but.

louder. And it felt it like it exposed a. lot of things that were had been. happening in the PGA or in the. professional golf world that maybe us as. noobs or casuals didn't fully know. I. had no idea that players were losing. money every single week when they were. playing in these tournaments cuz they. don't get any guaranteed money. I had no. idea that there was no real contract. I. had no idea about a lot of the things. Paying for your own this, paying for. your own that. You don't really have. this. This is what you've got. You're. not guaranteed any money. There's no con. It's like we learned a lot about the PGA. quickly whenever this LIV got launched. We also learned a lot about how pissed.

off the golf purists were going to be. about the best golfers not golfing in. the same place. Well, it turns out we don't got to worry. about that. No, we don't. LIV is dead. Officially. They lost the power for. seven hours down there in Mexico a. couple weeks ago, less than 24 hours. after an announcement was made basically. that, "Hey, this is probably going to be. done soon." Then they lose power. I. thought that was how they were going. out. I thought it was like one of the. most legendary moments in the history of. something. How you going out? We're. going to get everybody there. We're.

going to start tournament. Then we're. actually just going to pull the plug on. it. Like actually just pull the plug. That thing was like seven hours. They. get back out there. They start golfing. I was surprised. I'm like, "Holy hell, we're still doing it." Then their. statements come out. We're still doing. it. We're still doing it. Now, it's been. official that there will be no more. PIF Saudi Arabia PIF funding after this. season. They've assembled a new board. That's got ideas. And they certainly. have been in this type of situation. before and they're going to continue to. try. But I think a lot of us wanted to. give me, not a super golf purist guy,

can score anywhere from. I'd say 82 to 102. Okay, on any given day. >> Good range. >> Like golf, will watch. Wanted LIV to. have success cuz I wanted athletes to. have more money. I also like the fact. that it seemed like it was helping the. PGA maybe evolve how it's treating their. particular athletes. But it wasn't until. I started watching that I think I got. bummed out about them not competing. against each other cuz then you know, the uh. the uh Yeah. the leaderboard. Yeah. Just missing names for a while.

>> Yeah, not great. I realized that. mattered. Big time. And then I try to. watch LIV. Where is it? Uh I don't know. >> CW sometimes. Spending $5 million, we. can't even find what this thing is. Is. there any ideas? Any strategy in this. entire thing? And then you watch it. You. find it. And it's like DJ Khaled, who I. love, is literally screaming, "Everybody. put YOUR HANDS UP!". RAMBO, THE KNEE knocker to win a tournament. I. just don't know. Like Teddy Pain? I'll tell you what. I don't think I've. ever been in a bad mood when Teddy Pain.

is playing over. Any any of his music is. playing. Any of his streams are playing. I'm in a good mood. I don't need to hear. him on the 18th tee box. >> No. when somebody's trying to win a. tournament. And then I look at this. person. They're wearing shorts. Looks. like it is like us out there. >> Yeah. We just run the thing. It's like. golf has been figured out on how you run. how you air it, I think. And I. appreciate you guys trying to make it a. party. You're allowed to have par threes. down in Australia where everybody goes. crazy. Bert Kreischer's there. The guy. in the waste management. You're allowed. to do things differently. But I think. the way they went about it was poor. I think the way they planned exposure.

for it was terrible. I don't think. anybody really knew about it. And I. think the tournaments not mattering was. a big part of golf. So like whenever you. turn it on and it looks like you're just. watching like I don't I'd rather watch. Bob. Does sports or does golf or whatever. >> I'd rather [clears throat] watch. >> DeChambeau. I'd rather on YouTube. >> Yeah. as opposed to that cuz that's like. good content. Like and then I don't have. to watch the people that I don't know. playing in between. I can watch like a. 20-minute thing with the good good Yeah.

Like I can Yeah. for I can watch all. those. I'd rather watch those than. having to watch LIV where. >> The product itself was bad. And if you. have a bad product, it's not going to. work, let alone all the other stuff. The. broadcast television product was no. good. >> Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, is. a man who has a lot more information on. it. And I'm excited to actually hear his. thoughts on it from the very beginning. till now. >> Yeah. This guy's become our golf. authority. Mhm. Ladies and gentlemen, from ESPN, go dogs, Mark Schlabach.

>> [applause]. >> Guys, Okay. So, I gave my views of LIV. from the very beginning. I loved that. there was a massive amount of money. going to athletes. A lot of people are. like, "Where the money's coming from is. not good." It's like, "Well, that. money's done a lot of things." I think. we're much more educated on that now. versus whenever this whole thing. started, but it did get very loud in. that entire department. I think they had. a chance to maybe make things better. Feel like they executed poorly and. inevitably for the golf purists, they.

also kept the best golfers away from. each other. Is there anything that I. missed in this entire thing and that I. should be thinking about whenever I look. back on the LIV experiment that was? First of all, let me commend you on the. transition from record ratings to a. league with no ratings. Um so Thank you. Cheers to you, Schlabach. >> [laughter]. >> Thank you. Roll go dogs. Now, I spent much of my morning walk. pondering how to refer to it cuz you got. upset when I called it the Saudi League. and obviously I can't [snorts] call it. that anymore. So now I think we'll just.

call it the barely living tour. Okay. >> [laughter]. >> No, I mean, you hit it. Look, a bunch of. guys got a bunch of rich guys got. richer. Their agents got richer. Uh they disrupted the game. I I think. their legacy will be that they made the. PGA Tour evolve. to bigger purses. Uh. you know, signature events with with. more elite fields. But, you know, they. tried. Somebody said this morning they. tried to reinvent a 200-year-old sport.

with a checkbook. And, you know, the way. they went about it, I think Greg Norman. was the the wrong guy. I think he was. too arrogant in how he did it. Um the. fact that [clears throat] a bunch of. rich players sued the PGA Tour didn't. help. Um. and the fact, you know, frankly, I think those guys are still the guys. that are still there are starting to. figure out you can't prepare for the. Masters and the US Open by playing in a. city park in New Orleans and a municipal. course in Bolingbrook, Illinois. Well, the New Orleans one actually got. canceled. So, please have a little bit.

more respect for that one. And we love. the city of New Orleans and Governor. Jeff Landry does great work there. welcoming in the PGA who had a fantastic. weekend last weekend. We regret to. inform you that the LIV one will not. exist. Okay, so you say they tried to. change a 200-year-old game with a. checkbook. The devastation to splitting the players. away from each other to your point about. not playing. I think was on display when. what the Champions Tour had a better. performance than LIV at it at Augusta,

right? And we very rarely saw any of the. LIV guys go. So it was like clear that. they got paid massive amount of money. and it's like you're not working as hard. or you don't have to be as good. So it. affected the best some of the best in. the world's game. Now, we talked to Brian Rolapp, new PGA CEO, formerly of the NFL, and we said, "Hey, how what's the transition process back. into the PGA?" And this is what he had. to say, Mark. >> Talked about us and the rumors with the. other tours and now with big game Brooks. coming back to PGA Tour. We saw some of.

the stipulations, I guess, with his. deal. Is there like a defined path for. players to come back to the PGA Tour? And is it kind of, I guess, situational. situations are situational or a. player-by-player situation? How is it? Yeah, I I think we're thinking about it. Listen, we're we're reading all the same. headlines you're reading. We don't know what's going on over. there. We don't know. We know those guys. are under contract. We'll respect that. Brooks came back onto the tour because. he made a phone call and said, "Look, I'm out of my contract. I'm ready to.

come back.". So we're thinking about it. You know, we're we'll we'll react when. we have an opportunity to react, but. right now we're focused on the making. the PGA Tour better. But listen, I've said it publicly and. I'll say it again. I'm interested in. whatever makes the PGA Tour better. That's what that's what that my job is. That's what I'm interested in doing and. and that has no limit. So that's that's. how I'll focus on it. >> Okay, Mark. So obviously situations are. situational and he's thinking about. thinking about it. And Brooks calls and. he says, "You're good." Patrick Reed.

allegedly a year I remember there was. some real heat though, like potential. lifetime ban. Rolapp was not there at. the time. Obviously that was the person. that was before him that he is now. filling in the role of. How do you see. it kind of all unraveling? Will it be. situations or situational like Romo? Yeah, we'd certainly love to have you. come back cuz you're so good at golf. Like how do you kind of view it, Mark? Yeah, I think the PGA Tour obviously has. all the leverage right now. I think. there's still some hard feelings on that. side. You know, I had people in the last 24.

hours tell me screw those guys. I don't. care who they are. I think Brian Rolapp coming from the NFL. is all about the bottom line. If Bryson. DeChambeau and Jon Rahm. can. can make his product better for. television contracts and those sort of. things, he'll figure out a way to get it. done, but I think it's going to hurt. I. think it's going to sting. I think there. are some guys who won't want to come. back to the PGA Tour. I think there are. some guys like Lee Westwood and Ian. Poulter, some of the older guys will.

just go back to the DP World Tour. Some. of their younger players who never. played on the PGA Tour are going to have. to go to the Korn Ferry Tour to try to. get a PGA card, but there's going to be. some guys walking back. with their tails between their legs. because I mean this is the equivalent of. Lane Kiffin showing up in Oxford, Mississippi saying, "I'm sorry. I was. wrong. Please take me back." It's like. the 19th. Eagles reunion, Pat. When hell freezes. over, we'll come back. It's pretty damn. cold when you don't have THE SAUDIS'. MONEY.

>> [laughter]. >> THANK YOU, MARK. GOOD LINE. Thank you. for all of it. The football metaphor, you know, for the doofuses like us that. can maybe feel what is happening over. there. And then also, you know, it's. cold world out there, you know, and just. one last hey, remember what you did from. Schlaba. I had I had I had a 4-hour walk. 4-mile walk. after I got your text. So I thought. about some things. It's the best thing. [laughter] about a 4-mile best thing. about a 4-mile walk, Pat,

it's only six Widespread Panic songs. Oh, that's not bad. Is that every. morning? Do you do that? Every morning. Every morning. So you're listening to. Widespread Panic and Saudis ruined golf. Saudis ruined golf. >> [laughter]. >> It's like Lane Kiffin. >> Barrel barrel over the waterfall? Yeah, it's good. All right. Can we ask some. questions about golf that's happening. now as opposed to just saying Yeah. a. real. >> got to Hey, I got to I got to I do got. to tell you. I got to play the patch in. Augusta. I was glad to hear you made it.

to Augusta National, but I played the. patch, the new muni that that Tiger. redesigned and I played with this kid. from Ireland and it was first trip to. the Masters. And I said, "What was the highlight?" He. said, "I saw Pat McAfee on the 14th hole. or something." I was like, "Oh my god, even over there?" I was like, "This is. insane." But I did learn something about. the Irish. This kid had never played. golf before. 10 yards, hits it again. 10 yards, hits. it again. Goes on and on for like 3. hours. The Irish never pick up. It was. miserable. >> [laughter]. >> It's like Lane Kiffin. But he he got in.

his highlight was saying you, but I did. get to play the big course. last year. I finally won I was 0 for 9. in the media lottery. And I got to win and I. >> Oh, tell me about the media lottery. Tell me about the media lottery. Do they. actually. >> You enter a lottery, you get to play it. once. Once you Once you win, you can't play. again for 7 years. So I finally win last. year. They pick like 18 15 18 people to. play Augusta National. I'm the only dude that ever rolled down. Magnolia Lane. with a Weber grill in the back of his. truck playing Widespread Panic's Ain't. Life Grand getting [laughter] ready to.

play Augusta National. I know you can't. >> It was amazing. And life was grand, but. I played terrible. I'm not going to tell. you my score. No. But we had a. We had a caddy in our group who was. Peyton Manning's favorite caddy, your. guy. And he said the last time he'd been out. there, he hit it in the ball hit it in. the Rae's Creek three times on number. 12. And he said finally the caddy turned. around and said, "Damn, man, it ain't. the freaking Mississippi. Hit it on the. damn green.". I think I've golfed with that guy. actually in that particular golf course. before. He's good at reading greens,

that guy. Greens, yeah, he is. Yeah, he. is. That guy's great at reading greens. I thought [clears throat] you were going. to say that they told you that although. it's only 7 years that you can't win. again with the lottery, you got a. lifetime ban for the [ __ ] grill and. the whole thing, but no. Instead they. said that's Schlaba football. That was a. cover. They said that's Schlaba. football. That's smart. Okay, let's talk. a little bit more about golf. Huge news. especially in this Thunderdome. Go. ahead, Connor. Yeah, Schlaba the goat is. back. Michael Block aka Blocky aka the. guy that probably would be the number.

one golfer in the world if he could. drive it 20 yards further. will be playing in the PGA Championship. What do we think? Does he have a chance. here to take home a major title? It. feels like now that he has one under his. belt that this could be the year that. Blocky gets it done. You know, this is. Look at that putt here, Schlaba. >> Obviously one of the goats of the. greens. He he damn near never misses. I I don't know if we have it, but he. actually had a message to some people. that maybe don't believe in him. I don't.

know if Ty even qualifies that anymore. back to your career. Uh. I mean, the support's insane. Like ridiculous. And I mean, I can't. thank everyone else out there enough for. all the support and for all you haters. and whatever. You haters. >> [screaming]. >> He's talking to you. He's talking to. you, Ty. He's talking to you, Ty. Goat. [ __ ] He's talking to you, Ty. Goat. [ __ ]. But anyways, is Blocky going to win this. thing? And how much more Blocky I like. Blocky. I met Blocky. Blocky was a good. man to me. >> The dog. Ty hates that he went on.

podcast and said, "If I kill a roar, I'll be the best golfer in the world or. whatever." He was just he was getting. gassed up. He he was just having a time. Here's back, right? You know, I'm very. interested to hear Mark's take on. Blocky. Very interested. He uh yeah, he flew a. little close to the sun that first time. He little got a little too arrogant, too. little big for his britches. But look, it was great, you know. I. think Kepka went up there in Rochester. when he played and he had the. hole-in-one. But yeah, it it doesn't make PGA Tour.

players happy when a when a pro shows up. and and kind of steals the spotlight, but good for him. He doesn't steal the. spotlight. He's got what? I was there last I was at. Bandon Dunes last week and I was about. 30 shots worse than him. I'll tell you. that. Okay, so you you think. He's on top. >> You got a chance to see him a little. bit. He's playing good right now, you're. thinking. He's playing pretty good. Yeah, he's playing well. He won't. contend. He'd be lucky to make the cut. You don't know that. All right. Let's. talk my haters. YEAH. YEAH, HE'S TALKING.

TO YOU, MARK. AND by the way, Ty knew what you were. going to say. Ty knew it. He was so. excited. I want to let you know, Mark, you within the first 15 seconds of you. being on talking on the show won over. the entire Thunderdome. I forget the. exact conversation it was, but you. murdered 15 people within the first like. 20 seconds and everybody in the. Thunderdome was like, "Yes.". >> All right, fastest ever. >> Yeah, it's fastest yes we've ever got. So you you are in high regard, sir. I I. just would like to. >> it. I'm just not very I'm not a subtle guy.

I mean, get to the point. Yeah, but the way you get to the point. is also part of trying to get that. accent there. >> Go dogs. Yeah, very go dogs at all times. it feels like. So life is good. Go. ahead, Tone. Yeah, Mark, I was I was. looking at it and I was looking at the. Cadillac Championship this weekend. It's. an elevated event and I was looking at. the. odds. Rory's not there. Feels like Rory. has not played much golf this year. I. think it's five times. maybe in three or four months. I was I'm confused. I thought they had. to play elevated events or is Rory going.

to pick up his schedule through the. summer? I just didn't know how that. worked cuz I saw there was a lot of talk. about it online how they have people. haven't seen Rory a ton besides the. Players and Masters this year. Yeah, I mean, he was part of that group. that came up with the signature events. to get all the good guys in the field. more often and you know, and then he. ended up skipping the one after he blew. the late lead at Augusta National and. got fined for it, but they've kind of. done away with it, you know. I don't know. It's I think it's the new. Rory maybe. We saw it a little bit last year after. he won his first green jacket. He took.

some time off, probably celebrated a. little too much, he'll tell you. But you know, didn't win again, but. he's playing well, yeah. He's He's. playing a little bit more around the. world, and maybe if LIV stays together, Pat, he'll he'll find a home over there. Well, that's the thing we have yet to. reference is the global impact that they. have had on golf. >> Mhm. Look, I don't I don't think it's. dead yet, because I think there are. enough rich guys, really rich guys that. have a lot of money who love golf. But, it's going to not going to be anything.

like like it's current form. But, I. think if you love golf, they won't want. to do that, right? Isn't that kind of. the love golf people's thing? They love money more than golf. If they. can figure out how to make money off the. golf, then it's a perfect world. I think. there are some answers there in the. content-driven world. I don't think you. should ever be trying to market. yourselves as a PGA. competitor going forward, though. I. think that is a. I think that's probably like they got. the What's that? The grass league? >> Yeah. Yeah. They're playing like at. night or something like that with some. Par threes. Par threes, yeah. PGL. >> I don't want to say the YouTube content.

golf people, but they're doing a lot of. content as well. If you viewed LIV as. like like when LIV was about to Was. there a time where they were about to be. together, PGA and LIV? It felt like. there was a time where they were meeting. a little bit more. Strategic alliance, uh framework. agreement, June 2023, June 6th, 2023. Yeah, 2023. They uh signed an agreement. to form an alliance with the PGA Tour. and the DP World Tour, and could never. come to an agreement, and I think it was. probably because of the Saudis thought. LIV Golf was worth a lot more. They.

couldn't get into their head that nobody. cared about the Range Goats or Ripper. GC. Whoa, I got a [ __ ] Easy. >> a Range Goat hat Range Goat hat right. here, Mark. >> [laughter]. >> Yeah. You're the guy. You Mark? BUBBA GIFTED IT TO US. YEAH, it was a gift. Shout out to Aces, too. Good dogs. Good dog. Bubba's dog. Yeah, Bubba is dog. I got a driver head here. from Range Goat Goat. What happens to. the Range Goats? They're done.

>> worried about it, yeah. Starting their. own league. That's right. Bubba's got. enough money from his previous golf. He's got a [ __ ] candy store. He's got. like 10 different things. >> Owns the Blue Wahoos. Bingo. Bubba ain't. got a golf course outside of Athens. called the Rose. Oh, really? He's competing with the. Masters. I like it. Bubba Bubba is not. giving up at all. I I appreciate he's. competing with Augusta. I I do not uh. play down there, but I did have the time. of my life. The golf world is special. That's why I think whenever you mention. that uh the guys that have a bunch of. the money, I think they would want to.

work with the PGA. I don't think any. many people that love golf are going to. want to go against PGA. Again, maybe you. can find some of those heels out there. But, if they turned LIV into like uh PGA. guys doing scrambles or like two on two. or like gimmick golf. Like if you took. the PGA guys and turned LIV into what. gimmick golf could be, so it's like. basically their YouTube portion of it. I. think that would have been good. If we. could have saw four PGA guys battle. against each other in a scramble, and it. like what would they shoot? How would. that whole thing go if you hosted it.

right? Like I thought they were going to. do that. I thought LIV was going to. become like gimmick golf. And uh I guess. that's not the case. Sounds like Saudi. Arabia wanted them to be the Masters. Yeah. Man, it was supposed to be louder, though. But, DJ Khaled was always. showing up in with big putts, cuz he's. such a good time. It was hard for me to take it serious, Mark. I tried. I tried my best. It was. [ __ ] ass. Yeah, I mean, it's the sad. part is you don't get to see Sergio. Garcia play six more times. I wish. Boom boom couples. All right. Let's.

Sergio Sergio. See, I think the big thing, Serge, whenever you did what you did at the. Masters to the thing. Like did you think you were going to. win? So, I think that's the thing. Like. at some point there has to be a looking. in a mirror, and it's like, "Hey, probably not going to win today. So, if. I miss it a shot, let's just roll with. it." You know, like when he was younger. bashing a thing, maybe you thought you. were going to win. This stage of life, I. don't think anybody's thinking Sergio. Garcia's winning the Masters, right? So, everybody just kind of looks at you and. goes, "But But But Those Spaniard. golfers run hot. I think he's I think.

he's made the cut there twice since he. won. When was that? >> like 20 years ago. It was a long time. ago. All right. Let's talk about I haven't. thrown a club I haven't I haven't thrown. a golf club in like 25 years. Almost. took a guy's head off one time, and that. was the last time I threw one. What was. it? Helicopter. Three wood off the fairway. Did you duff it? >> It wasn't bad. It's my dad It's my. buddy's dad, too. That would have been. bad. Did you duff it, or what happened? Top it? Oh, I'm sure I. hit a worm burner down the middle about. 30 yards like I usually do. And then you.

turned directly to your side and. Landed on the top of his golf cart. Yeah, he's close. Yeah. So, I mean, that's pretty good. Yeah, did you go Yeah, did you Let's put. it this way. The club went further than. my damn ball, all right, Pat? Yeah, hey, that's cuz you Hey, good dogs good dogs. out there. Let's talk about good golf, shall we? Maybe the greatest of all time. when it's all said and done. Go ahead, Ty. Mark, obviously the elevated events. are nice, and we know Scotty a lot of.

times will go out there and, you know, maybe not have his A+ stuff, but end up, you know, grabbing a top five or a top. 10. But, what do you think uh of his. form going into the PGA? And then also, just a little sidebar, have you been. doing any digging on the Brendan Soursby. situation? Oh. No on Soursby. Um Pete Thamel's handling. that um and doing a fantastic job on it, as he. always does. Um. Yeah, Scotty, look, the iron play at. Augusta and we've talked about it ad.

nauseam, but um. you know, he had his B+ game at Augusta. and finished the second. So, he can. still put it together. I don't think. he's had a. finish outside the top 25 in like. 2 years. So, you know, his bad golf is a lot of. guys' best golf. So, I think he'll be I. think he'll be in contention. I think. he's going to win the career grand slam. at the US Open. I called that. >> Hell yeah. at the beginning of the year. Uh I think he'll win at Shinnecock in in. June. Tell me about the Fitz boys down.

in New Orleans. Little brother punching. the ticket and the older brother having. what? The season of his life right now? Yeah. Uh Matt had really struggled about 18. months ago and and, you know, was one of the best iron players in the. world when he won the US Open at. Brookline. up in Boston, but um had struggled for a. while and and found it again, and, you. know, I mean, my god, the to win with. your little brother and secure his. PGA Tour card and a. spot in all the signature events the.

rest of the year and the players next. year and the PGA Championship next. month, I mean, I don't think it gets any better than. that. And I think he's expect expecting. his first child here shortly, too. Wow. What a run. Attaboy, Fitzie. And that Northwestern Northwestern. hasn't won this much in about 30 years, Pat. >> [laughter]. >> Amen, brother. Amen. Hey, you ever What. do you know about this, Slabaugh? What is that? You know what it is. Come on now. Spider. Yeah. Oh, he knows. Last time I went golfing I.

made I got a I got a 3D printed one. Did it work? >> Michael Collins gave me. Comedy? Caddy? ESPN Caddy? ESPN Caddy. Caddy, yeah, he. sent me a whole set. Don't tell anybody. Um. Somebody accidentally sent him a. right-handed set and forgot he was. left-handed. Okay, so that's not a bad. place to be, right there on side card of. ESPN Caddy's golf cart. Good for you, Mark. Yeah. >> We see ESPN Caddy everywhere. Yeah, he's. a beast. >> Crushing everything, just like you. Thank you so much for joining us, and. how many tournaments are left now to. shoot in the golf season?

Uh 17 on the PGA Tour season. We still. got three majors, though. A lot of golf. left. Man, we can't wait to see you. again in 24 weeks. We appreciate you taking time See you. We'll We'll see you in Philly. PGA. >> Yes, you will. That's what. >> PGA Championship. Oh, I thought it was a. home run derby July. They do have that, too. Yeah, Philly's got everything. >> They do. Yeah, and the UFC fight. Yeah. That was kind of the big And I got to. put that suit on. Yeah. Did you say. >> Perfect perfect place to go when the PGA.

wants to clean up fan behavior, Pat. Lot of mashed potatoes, huh? You're the. best. Ladies and gentlemen, good dogs. MARK SLABAUGH. YEAH. >> [applause]. >> SLABAUGH. IT'S FUNNY WE TALKED ABOUT THAT EARLIER. OH, SLABAUGH, YOU ON? YEAH. HEY, can we get a ranking on these. SEC coaches swinging? Saban obviously plays all the time. Shot. his age last week or 2 weeks ago, 73. Kirby Smart, good dog. Awful, okay. Huh?

Huh? Oh, Nados great. Who is that? >> Nados not not great. Pete Golding's got. a good little baseball swing. That ain't. Tommy Tubberville's. Senator Senator. Tubbs. Is Is Tommy still coaching? No, no, no, no. Who do you got? Jaylen Deboer? Nados. Uh I'll go uh. Pete Golding's not bad. He gets through. it pretty good. I mean, Tubberville's. got the smoothest.

Not Nick. I'll go with the goat. He's got that little He's got that. little hitch at the top, though. Yeah, that's cuz I mean, Nick Saban should. play well. He owns about four damn golf. courses. He owns everything, I think, brother. Including. uh a resume that says he's a goat of. everything. Just like you, we do. believe. You're the man, ladies and. gentlemen, Mark Slabaugh. I mean, I didn't know he owns a bunch of. golf What? Yeah, he owns golf courses. He's the. best. >> Duh. Guy owns everything. Guy owns. everything. We're just moments away from. talking to a guy who uh.

Ladies and gentlemen, join us now. He's a man who uh. is an 18-year vet in the NHL as a. player. He was drafted by the Flyers in 1983. Played for the Flyers for 11 years. This is his first season. as the head coach of the Flyers. Pens taught him everything he needs No, no, last night he sent the Pens to. Cancun. Ladies and gentlemen, the head. coach of the Philadelphia Flyers. Rick Tocchet.

Congrats, coach. Thanks, boys. Hey, Pat, I want to be. your friend, because you I know you pay. big bar bills, man. You're the. Hey, USA Hockey, hell yeah. Hey, I know. they beat I was on the Canada staff. I. mean, we I had to I had to watch that. uh that party where you paid the big big. bill. We lost. Yeah, we got the silver. medal. So, thanks, man. >> Was that you guys? Yeah, Canada, buddy. Oh, was it? Oh, I. didn't know. Take me back to that day. >> [laughter]. >> cuz I don't I don't like this day at. all. I I love that day. That You're.

right. Oh. A little payback, a little payback, a. little payback. >> Yeah, a little bit, obviously. Uh we. appreciate you joining us and everything. that you've done for hockey. I would. like to talk about your team here. And. very rarely will I ever pay the Flyers. compliments. I think you understand. that. You're a Flyer and also know. Pittsburgh very very very well. It's. been one of those things where we have. been successful and the Flyers have not. You know that. You understand that. Flyers fans understand that. But always. been a good team and a town that cares. about hockey. So, it's a good thing for. us to talk [ __ ] about cuz you people. care and we're definitely have better.

run than you. So, it's been a good run. for us. So, then we run into this team. I'm expecting Crosby, Tanger, Geno, guys. that you know very well. The rest of. that team to kind of do what they do, especially against the Flyers. And I'm. there watching your team. Holy [ __ ] You. got dogs all over the place. These guys. are big, strong, fast, mean. Obviously, grit is a part of the Philadelphia way, but can you tell me about your team? And. why did you know that you guys were. going to beat the Pens in this series. with how much knowledge you have of this. Pittsburgh Penguins team? Well, first of all, uh you know I feel.

about the I've been there as a coach or. player in Pittsburgh 6 years and won. three Cups there. So, there's a there's. a Pittsburgh Penguins are dear to my. heart. But now I'd be in a you know, obviously on the other side, being part. of that rival, um I knew you had to put the stake in. them to you know, to kill them type of. thing cuz Sid doesn't go away. Tanger, who I thought was great the last three. four games, they don't go away. Obviously, Geno. So, um we have a young team, um. you know, inexperienced, but a team that.

bought in right from the. from training camp. January is probably. our worst month and I think for us, Pat, uh the the the West Coast trip when we. were you know, I think we were five. games three games over 500 and we swept. the West Coast trip. The guys went out. They had a lot of dinners together. They. bonded. You know, you know Oh, yeah. bonding in sports. Um and after that road trip, we we. started to believe, "Hey, man, if we. start stringing some games together, we. can get back in this thing." You know, you know, our big tagline of 3.8% chance.

of making the playoffs at one point and. that's a big thing we always talk about, you know. So, 3.8% chance and all of a. sudden now we're going to the second. round. So, got to give the young guys. and our veterans, too, that that have. bought in for our team. Yeah, congratulations to you guys and I saw. the 3.8% chance Yeah. uh marketing and I. had not followed your guys' season as. closely. So, yeah, I was 100% sure we. were going to beat your guys. I I was These guys 3.8% chance to get. in. These guys are living on a miracle,

okay? Miracle was whenever we beat the. Soviets. That ain't happening. Yeah, that's right. Okay, that was what my. thoughts were. Getting to watch your. team, man, I love it. I really do. The culture. of your team and obviously hockey is an. incredibly physical and tough and. everything like that. But it does feel. like your entire. bench is tough guys. Is that how you. feel? And is that what you have to have. in hockey? And how many teams are built. that way? Are all teams built that way. nowadays? Yeah, I think the game's changed a. little bit than when we played. Um. physicality Our physicality always is.

important in hockey. It's probably a. different than it was 10 years ago. Um. you know, for me it's it's you know, intimidation with speed, um you know, controlling the puck, you know, wall. battles, wall work. You know, you you. look at look at Sidney Crosby. To me, he's tough, right? >> He Yeah, he'll he's fought the odd time, don't get me wrong. He's tough. He's a. mentally tough guy. Um that's to me is the the new age. toughness. Connor McDavid, Jack Eichel, all these guys. do they drop the gloves once in a while?

Maybe once in a blue moon, but they're. tough. They're tough every shift, um. whether it's with puck possession, body. position. So, that's the new age hockey. player. Tell me about gritty in human. form, Tippett, number 74. Tell me about. this guy, okay? That was my takeaway. after watching your team. Sandheim might. be a serial killer cuz he's I looked him. in the eyes, ate and blinked, and he. appeared to not change his face one time. throughout the entire game, which was. wild. And 74, this guy was faster than everybody else. on the ice. It was very clear and he was.

also built like an ox. Almost had the. game winner last night in overtime. Obviously, incredible player. Uh I should know of him, obviously. I I. feel like you got a lot of people that. maybe the world does not recognize. If. that I don't want to talk [ __ ] but No, you're you're I'm glad you said it to. give props to those guys because Tipp. wasn't on the radar last year. Um. this year he's put himself on the radar. Um. he's um he's one of the fact. Listen, I I coached with Connor David in. in in Canada.

He's almost got that kind of speed. Like. you saw it, you know, you you just. mentioned some of the games where he had. the speed through the neutral zone. Think he had 11 hits one game. I mean, that's that's tough to do. So, he's a. power forward and then. I thought Sandheim and Ristolainen were. terrific. We we matched them against Sid. most of the the series. They played 25. minutes a night. Um I got to give them a. lot of credit. The twin towers, they. were great. And you're right, Sandheim. uh notched his game another level. And. you're right, his demeanor. He is right. It was like flat I I don't.

know if he was happy or or sad half the. time because he has that stone face, which is great for me. Yeah, great for. me. I was a little intimidated. I had a. neck brace. Obviously, we didn't know if. I had a broken neck at that point. You. know, I was sitting there on the on the. glass. I didn't know what I know if you. boys wanted some. And just let them know. cuz of my neck I would not have been. able to fight them. Just just let That. is the only reason. That is the only. reason. Yeah, right. Okay, let's talk. about standing on head, shall we? You. guys saw it in the gold medal game. against Hellebuyck. Go ahead, Tony. Yeah, Tony, obviously a scoreless game. through three when you go into overtime.

It's not like there was a lack of. chances. It was up and down. Hockey was. awesome game to watch. Vladar has 42. saves in a shutout. Can you just talk. about him a little bit and how huge that. was last night? Yeah, you're right. The most of the game. was back and forth, but I think overtime let's you know, call it as is. The Penguins had the puck. a lot. We were we know, we had the prevent. >> yeah. prevent I get it. The prevent defense. and that's when you need your goalie and. that's when Vlad I mean, Vlad was great. all game, don't get me wrong. But he.

went to superhuman lengths uh in. overtime. Like he was Um you know, I. think Mantha had something on the. doorstep. Uh who's had a really good. year for him and I think Vlad stopped. them. There's some saves there. Like Sid. said after the game, they're one shot. from going to game seven. So, yeah, we we whether you want to say. we're lucky in overtime or resilient or. bend or don't break defense, the guy. behind the guy with the mask on really. was the key for us especially in. overtime. I think that's my favorite. thing about hockey, actually, and it was. kind of showcased on a global stage.

there in the gold medal game. Yeah. Every single playoffs, if your goalie. gets hot, you can win. Like that. If your goalie decides you're not going. to lose, you can win. We got a chance to. do it in Pittsburgh. Obviously, you were. there. We got to experience that with. Matt. There was a couple times Matt just. decided, "Yeah, we're going to go. ahead." And when Jarry, actually, his. first introduction to Pittsburgh, he. stood on his head throughout the entire. run. It's like uh Matt Murray, sorry. You Matt Murray won on the right. It's. like And I remember that from Tony. Esposito, We call him Tony B. And that's. Tony B. Yeah. Yeah, so it's like a.

goalie can decide basically for you. Like I go back my memories like when we. won the Cup one year. Fleury was in net. against Washington. Game seven. And they were all we were in their. building they were all over us. Like. they were like I'm I'm behind the bench. and it was like they put on a clinic. And we come out of the we come out of. the. the the first period 0-0 and I said to. Mike Sullivan, "We're going to win this. hockey game." And our team went you. know, we were on our heels and Fleury. stopped I don't know what he had. 18 shots and he was terrific. And then.

we took our game and we beat them. And. that's what a goalie can do for you. You. know, just give you that one period of. oh my god, this guy's going to he's. saving us. And now then the players wake. up and then you know, we took over the. game. I love that. I absolutely cuz it's. like a pitcher, you know, it's like when. a pitcher has a has a team that can't. hit for [ __ ] It's like the pitcher can. decide, "Hey, we are going to be in this. thing forever." And goalies, those who. get hot are the ones that kind of win, it feels like in the playoffs. Obviously, you have to have a great. team, but you're in the playoffs, you're. already already a great team. That's. kind of the deciding factor. Good luck.

to you having to make all decisions. When do you play them, especially a hot. goalie? Uh-oh. Got to give him some. rest. Can't strain the eyes. Is that kind of the thought? Is that. always the thought? Is the strain? What. is it? Well, the play the well, regular season. playoffs, you know, you're you're put. your throttling down you unless. something. you know, injury wise, you know, listen, you got to ride your guy. But you know, regular season, obviously, you're you're you're trying to give the. guy a little bit of rest, but playoffs. is pretty well you know, war of. attrition, man. You're you're all in. And I mean, like Pittsburgh, they had. guys banged up. We got guys banged up.

Um you know, you people are playing with. broken stuff in the playoffs. And. usually at the end of year on the media. day, you find out, "Hey, man, this guy. had a you know, this guy had a fractured. foot. This guy's got you know, uh you. know, a cracked rib." Some guys are you. know, taking some Toradol to to get. through stuff. So, yeah, that's what the playoffs are. It's. playing hurt. Yeah, that's hockey as a. whole. That's why there's always an. excuse basically for every hockey player. at any moment if they don't play well. And then it comes out later through a. memo. The player doesn't even say it. That guy had a fractured back. Uh makes.

sense. He's playing hockey. What what. does that even mean? Hey, this guy's a. little slow. What a bomb this guy was. Comes out later. Uh tibia, fibula, and. C4 fractured. He's out for how long? Two. years. He was [laughter] just playing. That. that is hockey as a whole. Okay, let's. talk about a 12-year-old you have. Go. ahead, Connor. Yeah, Rick, it feels like. another thing that Stanley Cup teams. have is just some young sensation coming. out of nowhere and you have that in. Porter Martone. What has he kind of. meant to the boys as he's basically. taken the world by storm. I remember.

after game one we're all like, who is. this 15-year-old who is basically going. to carry the Flyers past the Penguins? And how do you handle something like. that where a guy comes in late from a. college season and kind of get him in. with the boys while also knowing like, hey, this guy's going to be a huge. contributor to our team. Yeah, I think obviously it started at. draft day for me was and I didn't know. him a lot about him and usually you. know, the coaches aren't really involved. in the drafting part. We we don't really. see the these prospects.

But fell to us. and I was in that war room to see all. the our guys being so excited. We picked. him, right? And then his development at. Michigan State was incredible and I. getting stronger. Honestly, we didn't know he's going to. have this impact. You know, we were. going to give him a game. You know, you. give him that token game see how he's. going to be and all of a sudden I think. he scored his first game and then he. gets an assist, a big assist. He gets. another goal and all of a sudden he's a. 19-year-old kid playing in the second. round of the Stanley Cup playoffs, you. know, playing an average of 15-16. minutes and playing on our power play.

Um that's amazing. That doesn't happen. very often in hockey. Yeah, fighting. Tanguay, almost scoring in overtime. I. mean, he didn't look scared at all. Once. again, here's another thing I saw from. being on the ice because Nick was like, hey, that kid was just in the frozen he. literally he was just playing college. and I was watching him all I got to be a. little scared maybe. He's big. Yeah. He. and he was not scared at all. I mean, there was. felt like he was wanting more. So you. guys aren't are going to be good for a. while now.

Come on, MAN. COME ON. CUZ THIS SHIT'S HAPPENING ON YOUR IS. THIS YOU? Did you do this? That's you, coach? Huh? Is that you that is that. Yeah. No, I didn't do that. Look at look. at that. Holy jeez. Yeah, that's Nick. >> Was that after Was that after the game? Were you doing. Enough. Okay, now I got to wear a suit. too cuz the governor was pulling for you. guys. A lot happened in my life, but. what I did come to realize is Yeah, what. was the bet? What was the bet by the. way? I forgot. What do you got to wear You got to wear. something? Okay, coach I got to wear a.

suit. Yeah. I got to wear a suit, full. walk suit. Governor Tortorella. Yeah. Yeah, that's it. That's like me selling. out my everything that I have, coach. I I mean, come on. You have to make a. legit bet like you have to you have to. walk the Philly in a speedo. Whoa. You win the Stanley Cup. >> That's that's a real bet. That's a real. bet. You win the Stanley Cup, you got. it, pal. How about it? Okay? You win the. Stanley Cup Now, if you don't. We'll see you in the Thunderdome, all. right?

We'll see you in the Thunderdome, okay? You you have to make a visit. You won't. have to walk in a speedo there. You're a. head coach of a team. But I will walk to. Philadelphia you guys win the Stanley. Cup. Yeah, man. That's Yeah, I. Yeah, that's a good incentive. The boys. will love it. You know what? They get And and it'll. pay the bar bills all all summer. All right, forget the walk. One weekend, okay? One weekend. But there will be a. cap, okay? Cuz I did this at a media. event. >> Yeah, yeah. And some of the [ __ ]. found out I was paying and they went.

through the topest of top shelf. We're. not having that with the Flyers. But on. that note, I'm a fan. I appreciate you. Ladies and gentlemen, coach Rick. Tocchet. We're back on the other side. We'll see. you then. Goodbye. Hello hello beautiful people. The NFL Draft Experience where we're. about to see one. of these eight NFL fans. attempt a $250,000. field goal. What we did was we took all.

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SOMETHING nice could change your life. Hello, beautiful people. And welcome back to our humble abode, the Thunderdome. On this. I love these Friday Thursdays of the. 30th of 2026. Our two to program begins. at. sports. Up there on the wall over there. as we zoom in every single day in the. middle there is a picture of a dog.

that is Valerie Ann. She is a pitbull. sharpei mix that my wife got from one of. the shelters downtown. Used to be a. street dog whenever she was young. Sam adopted her and then shortly after. the adoption, couple of two years after. being adopted, me and Sam get together. and Sam just kind of moves into the. house just almost immediately brings. this dog. First dog ever that I had a. a relationship with.

And. she's the greatest dog of all time. Had. to put her down last night. It was one. of the heaviest experiences I've ever. had in my entire life. I don't know if I. could compare it to anything that I've. ever had to do. There was this. incredible company that. they did it at the house. So instead of. having to go to hospital or vet and so. many. great memories. kind of reminisced about with Valerie. Just want to let her know I will. absolutely love her. There was a little. rainbow up in the sky shortly after she. left like right outside of our window.

where we're looking and for us it was. just like, hey, see you later. For. McKenzie, our daughter, this is the. first time she's had to experience. anything like it. She was not around. whenever it happened, but immediately. upon coming upstairs, she goes, where's. Valerie? You know, cuz she's hasn't been. very mobile for a while. So yeah, it was. just heavy night and sports immediately. afterwards, wife and I and daughter got. a chance to watch and kind of just. escape from everything. But Valerie was. an incredible dog and I would say. greatest of all time. I know a lot of. people feel that way. And we started a.

charity because of Valerie's battles. with cancer. She had five bouts with. cancer. She died with cancer. First four. got treatment, got surgery for. It was. so expensive and we realized and found. out how expensive it was that Sam and I. thought about if we were kids growing up. with our parents with how much money was. available for everything, if we were. told that that was how much it was going. to be to save our dog whenever she was. like six years old, seven years old or. whatever, there was no way that we would. be able to say yes to that. So we. started a foundation to raise money for.

families to be able to get surgeries, to. take care of their animals. Hundreds of. dogs went through it all because of her. badassness and it's like uh. Yeah, it was it was a heavy night last. night for the wife and I as we both our. eyes out for hours and just kind of. reminisced about it. And I would just. like to say thank you to Valerie. More. tears this week Mhm. Mhm. than any of. maybe in my life and it's a perspective, you know? We got to enjoy the hell out. of what we have right now. We got to. enjoy the hell out of the moments. because at some point we'll just be. looking back on these moments as. memories, and I hope we all get to say.

that in the moment we enjoyed the hell. out of them as much as we should have. And uh. that's why we're so thankful we get to. do this every single day. And that's why. we're so thankful that we get to do. sports. And that's why I genuinely Now, outside of a WrestleMania run. Sure. Well, I was not trying to bring people. together. Trying to fix a business. Mhm. Go ahead. Say what you got to say. I'm not saying anything. But.

life is good. Let's never forget it, cuz. when it's gone, we'll never be able to. say I wish. Talks to Tims here at Boston. Connor, at Ty Schmit. One half of the. hammer, Don. Cowboys AP Town is here. joining us live from Maniacal Ohio. Ladies and gentlemen, a college football. national champion, Super Bowl champion, Ryder Cup winner. Ladies and gentlemen, AJ HAWK. TACO, HOW YOU DOING, PAL? I'm doing. good. Coach Coach Taco was great on here. actually. He dealt with all of uh your. guys' kind of shenanigans very well. Shenanigans? Yeah, questions? Well, I. mean, kind of like you would you you. could take it as like not disrespect,

but you know, you're you're angry that. he beat your squad again. Oh, do you. couldn't take it I I think they did take. some of it as disrespect. Just from the. feeling that I had being on the glass of. one of those games. I I It was in the. moment when they're in inches away from. you where you go, "Wow.". I've said a lot of stuff about this team. in like a Pens fandom way that a lot of. Pittsburgh people have certainly told. them in their past, but they know that I. said it. They definitely heard it. That's kind of the world we're in right. now. And I'll tell you what, I think.

they would have done that to me. I think. that stick throw would have been done to. me at one point, but instead the Flyers. move to the second round of the Stanley. Cup playoffs after a massive win over. the Pittsburgh Penguins last night. Taco. was awesome. I can't wait to watch him. And they're a good team. Very. And if. their goalie's going to do what the. goalie did last night, they got a chance. to win it all. Hopefully the Pens big. three get figured out and play 10 more. years. That's what I would like. Five of. eight series are left now in the NHL. Stanley Cup playoffs. Six of eight NBA.

serieses are still happening right now. Two out of the West gone. Okay, so the. West is Oklahoma City swept the Suns, and then the Spurs beat the Blazers 4-1, and the Spurs might be the real deal, brother, with Wemby. We shall wait and. see if they can get past the OKC test. The Lakers were up 3-0 behind LeBron. James. Mhm. Don't look now, the Rockets. team has won two straight got people. wondering, "Is this. the big collapse?" Uh-oh.

Is everything that's going on with this. Lakers team just become too much, and. they won't be able to keep up with the. young Houston Rockets team that has. maybe figured out how to attack this. Lakers team without a Luka Dončić. playing? Austin Reaves returns. He gets. more than 12 points, I have you know. LeBron didn't get a double-double, though. Ooh. I don't know if you knew. that. You. You You pair LeBron double-double with a. win last night, you get pretty good. little odds. You got You could have a. nice little return to your DraftKings. account after losing, you know, a. massive amount of money on Flyers. beating the Pens and everything like.

that. But instead, Austin Reaves, LeBron. James, and the boys aren't able to get. the home win. Houston Rockets now are on. two-game winning streak. Do they have. all the momentum? And if the Los Angeles. Lakers don't win this, IS LEBRON JAMES. NOWHERE NEAR THE GOAT? >> OH. OH, NO. >> That's what people are going to say, AJ. Hawk. It's amazing how quickly things can. change. So now LeBron is washed and he's. run out of steam. That's what I've been. hearing on the headlines this morning. What I do love about what we do for a. living, and I just talked about enjoying. a moment. I don't think anything on. Earth does that more than a daily sports.

show. Okay? And you can pull some takes that. end up not being good from a daily. sports show anytime you want. Cuz we can. only go off the information that we have. right now. When LeBron. put the cape on, then put the entire Los Angeles Lakers. team on his back at this age of 41 after. the amount of minutes he had all season. Okay? After the amount of minutes he had. all season. And just starts cooking this. Rockets team with or without Kevin. Durant, it was hard not to just. immediately go, "That's never been done before. That's.

never going to be done again. That's the. greatest of all time." People got loud. Mhm. Evan Fox in the back got real loud. Oh, yeah. People in Chicago were getting. louder. You know, they're on microphones. GETTING LOUDER. "UH WHAT'S NOT? LET'S. SHOW HIM RESPECT, FOR SURE. But let's. make sure we remember that's what was. happening." And now they couldn't wait. Could not wait for a. Did Jordan ever This is weird. Was. Jordan ever up 3-0 and then Who? This is. a best of seven. Uh. Uh I I.

We certainly showed him his respect, but. there's a chance that happens. And. LeBron knows that, and the sports world. knows that, but that would be a massive. story, especially with where we were. just a few days ago, AJ Hawk. Yeah, but. do you think it's actually going to. happen? Do you think they are going to. collapse and not win this series? Forcing game seven after trailing a. series 3-0 has only happened four times. Celtics versus the Heat, Trail Blazers. versus the Mavs, Nuggets versus the. Jazz, and in 1951, the Knicks versus the Royals. That's a. good team. That was a That was.

one-sided. Yeah. Royals were just. smacking around. >> not hot. >> Everybody in New York was like, "1951?". I'm sure they had. What do we Are we have pizza? We. definitely have good pizza, but. >> Good pizza. Uh-huh. Those were good. times. Do you have Were they? >> black and white television in 1951? >> of babies were written made in 1951. >> there yet. Is Is TV happening? >> 51? Yeah. TV's happening. I don't know. if there's not color TV yet. Definitely not color TV. How many. channels? Uh two most so many Two to.

three. If you have Ovaltine here, we're. doing Ovaltine. Ovaltine, yeah, on the. radio. Yeah, the Dakota rings. >> And they were like, "The Royals. problems.". People were walking and getting on a. What type of vehicles do we have in. 1951? Model T. No, that was 1920s. >> We had some power cars, right? 50s. >> Yeah, oh yeah, definitely. I love Lucy. was the most popular. show. Uh what's that, AJ? Did you think. they were still riding horses in 1951? Some people I thought they did.

get in a buggy there to go to New York. to tell them how ass they are after they. go down 3-0. They're still doing horse. and buggy in New York. They're. definitely doing it then. First. televised beer commercial for Pabst was. in 1951. PBR trailblazing. I can't. believe it. I wonder what that. commercial was. Have one. Probably. Yeah, probably probably. something like that. >> Eyes was your number ONE COUNTRY ARTIST. THAT IS STUDEBAKER. I like what we got here. Cars were. massive. Mercury. 1951 Mercury. I I'll tell you what, I don't know how. they drove those things at all with how.

small the roads were. They had no power. steering. Obviously the gears definitely. >> [laughter]. >> Yeah. I mean, a lot of protection and a. lot of metal on those. I mean, there's a lot of metal. I don't. know if it gives at all. I don't know. It It When did the fender come in? The. rubber fender, cuz that was a game. changer for the Jackson. >> wedding. Jackson jacket. kind of changed the entire thing. Anyways, it doesn't happen often is what. we're saying, where the Rockets would be. able to come back, and it's never. happened where they've come back and. actually won it. If that was to happen. against LeBron James, people go crazy.

Now, there's certainly LeBron postgame. interviews coming like this. He feels like obviously the Rockets are. the better team. What was the best way. to respond to a group that obviously has. some confidence growing over there? I don't care about [ __ ] like that, bro. The game is won between four lines. I. don't I don't give a damn. Who cares. what he I mean, of course you say it. Why would you say we're not the better. team like. But I don't You Ask one of them young. guys that question. I'm. too old for that [ __ ]. What was he supposed to say? What was he.

supposed to say his team wasn't better. than our team? Come on. Get out of my. face. How about that guy thinking, "I'm going. to get LeBron here.". Does he think his team This guy said his. team's better than yours. Go ahead. Anything? Yeah, that is a wild question. >> Get out of my face, bro. What an answer by LeBron. You can see. he's obviously a little frustrated, though. You see he's not exactly. thrilled with what's going on. Now, I do. appreciate the fact that everybody in. the NBA seemingly understands that. people have to answer questions in a. certain way. Cuz remember when Joe. Flacco was asked if he thought he was.

elite, and he said yes, and then all of. a sudden it was, "This [ __ ] thinks. he's an elite quarterback." Yeah. What. are you supposed to say, AJ Hawk? I like. how passionate Bron Bron is, though, it. appears. Yeah, I mean, yeah, I I think it's wild. what if he actually does engage in all. of the talk that is about him after. every single thing that he does. Like I. I hope he doesn't engage in a lot of it, because it would be a roller coaster. trying to figure out like one day he's. obviously the greatest of all time, the. next day he's washed, he's terrible, and. he's, you know, not in the top 25. So. it's just it's crazy. You know, I think.

he does hear a lot more than. um. we can imagine. I I I think he's very uh. knowledgeable of the conversations that. happened. I think whenever he talked to. Dave. McManaman. McManaman. Yep. I think that. one where there was a lot of. conversations about the. goat debate with him and Jordan. And. then he even came out and said he hopes. he did Jordan proud with the number 23. Like I think he showcased some humility. in there while also saying like, "Hey, I. do hear a lot of people [ __ ] on me.". It's like, "Why do we got to do Why do. we always got to do that? Like why?" I.

think he understands what's going on. But I'll tell you what, the Lakers. currently minus 330 to win the series. Yep. Nobody's doubting him. You think LeBron's going to lose the. series? Yeah, right. I heard some LeBron. fans earlier this morning really. bitching and moaning about the fact that. Bronny Bron no more. Whoa. All right, we. will get back to some NBA conversation. with a former 15-year NBA vet. Let's do. some NFL quick hitters here, shall we? George Pickens has officially signed his. $27.3 million franchise tag. It was reported last Thursday before the.

first round of the NFL draft by every. insider that George Pickens had signed. his franchise tag. Then Sunday came and. went, and on Monday we were talking. about that being an indicator of. something happening on our show. And. then during our show, Mr. Todd Archer. puts out a tweet into the oblivion that. says, "Hey, just a heads-up, Pickens has. not signed his franchise tag." To get. traded, Pickens would have had to sign. his. franchise tag. For anything to happen, he would have had to sign the deal. It. was reported that he signed a deal, but. then we asked the same insiders, you. know, both of them. We go, "Well, what.

what happened here?" He's intending to. sign. He's going to sign. They just know. he's going to. We thought maybe there. was some gamesmanship out of George. Pickens saying, "Yeah, no problem." Just. in case a trade was to come through. during the draft. Now the draft is past, maybe he won't sign his franchise tag. He has, as being reported now by Mr. Archer, signed his franchise tag. Nothing else can happen until he does. this. What does this tell you, AJ? He's. a Cowboy for the year? I still don't feel super confident he's. a Cowboy for the year. This obviously. opens it up for him to to be available. to be traded, I guess. But.

you know what? I think it's 50/50 now. I. thought the other day, like I don't. think there's a chance he's playing for. the Cowboys. I think he still could play. there. He literally came Not he, I'm. sorry. People came on the show. back-to-back. It was Tannenbaum and it. was. Oh, somebody else. >> Oh. I forget who it was. Rap Sheet. Rap. Sheet. Rap Sheet and Tannenbaum. back-to-back come on the show and go, "George Pickens is probably playing for. the Cowboys this year." And I'm like, "That's the first time. I've even heard somebody with conviction. say that." Because going into a.

franchise tag year as the number one. wide receiver with Mulugheta as his. agent, with what has happened in the. past, it feels like that would be a. no-go for a one-year contract with no. future guarantees and a potential. another year of franchise tagging coming. on the other side of that. That just. feels like a no. But then you start. thinking about it from George Pickens'. angle where he's getting 27.3 million. He's got another prove-it year. He. probably enjoys being in Dallas versus. what was going on in Pittsburgh. Him and. Dak have a great relationship, obviously. Maybe George Pickens does. this year one year 27.3. We get to watch.

another bag-chasing show for a year on. primetime every single week. And then he. gets a huge one after the season. I I. don't think any of us truly know, but. maybe he is a Cowboy and that would be a. blast cuz last year watching him on the. Cowboys was a great time. I'm always. saying he was all over the place all the. time on national television. >> Especially when they're playing that. 4:25 kind of primetime Brady and. Burkhardt, I want to say. Yep, okay. They are amazing with George Pickens. Think about how much more fun they are. to watch. And if it wasn't for Tee. Higgins and Ja'Marr Chase already doing.

it, I would say there's no way this is. going to happen. But because of that. brand of football and maybe the Bengals. go out there and absolutely dominate. this year and Joe Burrow stays healthy. >> coming over there. Yeah, Dexter Lawrence. comes over, which is kind of what the. Cowboys already have with Kenny Clark. and Quinnen Williams and Rashan Gary. Like there is a world it feels like. where after this season, after the. franchise tag, they could pay him. upwards of $35 million a year. >> Okay, so George Pickens signs his. franchise tag. Way to go. Is Aaron. signed anywhere? Well, Rooney, owner.

Rooney, says about the UFA tender that. they put on Aaron Rodgers, "We alerted. Aaron. and his representatives. that we're going to do it. It ain't really no real big deal. Just. something that in the unlikely event he. goes somewhere else, we're. eligible for a comp pick. That's how business That's right. Yeah. It'd be stupid not to. >> We move forward now. Mhm. Is that what you read there, Tone? Yeah, that is exactly what I read. Cuz if you. don't do it and he goes somewhere else,

you look like idiots. Everyone's saying. you guys are idiots for not getting a. comp pick out of this. >> Oh, they're laughing in your guys' face. >> Yeah. Oh, now you want him. Oh, not so. No, that's not what I said. I never said. those words at all. Tone, what's going on? >> Tony hates this guy. He's got him. It. sounds like I don't think Tony hates the. guy. I I think Tony likes the guy. >> I like the person. We all like the. person. I just don't like that for the. second straight year he's just stringing. us along like we're his little lapdogs. Like you're not the Pittsburgh Steelers. Bingo. It's the Pittsburgh puppies. I see, that's what See, man. I wish I.

didn't think of that. We're not What's his the Don't do that. Don't be doing what you're doing. AJ, do you hear This is how Pittsburgh. people, I believe, cuz Tone's come back. from the draft where there was 805,000. visitors, most of them from Pittsburgh. >> Talked to a lot of people from. >> Tone was around a lot of Pittsburgh. Tone sits down in his chair and he goes, "You know what? Now's the time actually. saying we're done with this guy." It. feels like Tone went and did a little. focus group, couple of them. Yinzers. group, how you doing? >> the city. >> Different ages, different groups, different cities, different parts,

different events, different everything. How we doing? We we're all Yeah, all. done with it. Okay, thought so. Just. wait till you hear me on Monday. And no, first thing came out of his mouth is, "Hey, we're done with it." It does feel. like that is how Steelers fans are. because it is two seasons in a row now. where they are being told like, "Hey, maybe. Maybe." And it's like the. Steelers fans are like, "Get this guy. the [ __ ] out of here if he does not want. to be a Pittsburgh Steeler." And now. from the other side of it, okay, that is.

just me reading Tone who was talking to. everybody and me potentially talking to. similar people that Tone was talking to. >> You read me well. Me as Aaron Rodgers, okay, person that understands Aaron and. has massive respect for who Aaron. Rodgers is in the history of ball and. currently in ball in this entire thing, the guy's allowed to figure out what he. wants to do with his life. Tone, okay. Okay. >> respect. Coach change, life change. >> Yeah, you bet. He's living. He's in.

shape. >> Yeah, what Okay, he signed in in early. June, I believe, last year, Tone. Is. there a deadline in June you have? Is it. like what if he signs here in in two or. three weeks? Are you going to be happy. all of a sudden? >> So, he signed in June cuz there was. something going on, right, last year? Wasn't there something Was that last. year? >> Yeah, he had a personal situation he. said that he let them know about. Yes, I. think everybody was. Okay, so like that kind of happened. And. then now this year it's like. um I don't I don't know. Don't you and. McCarthy [ __ ] know each other? He's a newlywed. THE GUY CAN'T ENJOY his. new wife for a little? >> lot of newlyweds in the NFL that are on.

teams they know they want to play for. that team. >> Not ones that are goats. What about ones. that are 22 years in trying to figure. out what they want? Yeah. Well, if if it's not if you can't. figure it out already, it's not in your. heart to play. You don't know that cuz. he didn't find every part of his heart. yet. >> And I don't know how I'll react to AJ. until that day comes. Okay. >> He's Italian. I'm sure I wouldn't change. my tune. AJ, I'm sure Pittsburgh. [laughter] won't immediately go He never. would. Got a goat back. Yep. So, I thought he'd better play good. Now. he kind of strung us along. Hey, the. future's here. Maybe we'll hire maybe.

Drew Allar, you know, Mike McCarthy. >> come out of my mouth. Yeah, exactly. As. soon as Aaron gets back. AJ, what do you. know in that situation? What has Aaron. told you? Honestly, I don't have really anything. for you on that situation. I don't know. what's. >> weekend coming. I don't know what it. would be. Yeah, I don't know what. There's no deadline. I don't know. anything. >> get down here Are you guys doing Derby. this weekend or no? No, I'm not going. Really? >> Don't lie. Oh, smart play by you to act. like you're not going if you are going. But if you're not going, also smart play.

to get that public because we will be. peppering you with questioning. Certainly. on that. The NFL has. distributed crew assignments to referees. this week amid indications of continued. progress toward a deal on a new. collective bargaining agreement with the. NFL Referees Association, sources have. told Seifert over there at ESPN. Now. there's some numbers and stats coming. out that we found pretty interesting. At. the time the talks stalemated this. spring, the NFL had offered the NFLRA, the Referees Association, a six-year. deal with the average annual raises of. 6.45%.

That's more That's more of a raise than. the players get percentage-wise. >> Yeah. The average NFL official earned $385,000. in 2025. Now, refs in other leagues, professional leagues, get paid more. money. Obviously a lot more games in. those other leagues. I believe they're. also full-time referees as opposed to. NFL refs that only have 17 regular. season games. And then if you're not. asked, you also get playoff games in. this entire thing. And then you're done. for an entire offseason. So, the. negotiation's fascinating. That felt. like a lot of money. If you let players.

know that that money was available if. they got into a pipeline to become. officials, I think a lot of players. would be excited to do that to give back. to the game. But I do think it's good. news that we're kind of making progress. with the stalemate that has potentially. happened over the past couple months. with the Referees Association because. the last time we had replacement refs, it was ass, AJ. Yeah, and I think people may like It's. easy to overlook this and think.

it's not that big a deal. But if you. were around for the old situation with. the replacement refs, I was on the field. I had when the Fail Mary situation. happened with replacement refs, I saw. like the impact it could have. So, I. think it's a lot bigger deal than people. think. So, the fact there's progress and. they're not Both sides aren't killing. each other publicly through the press, I. think it's a good. >> refs are ass, okay?" Yeah. But we do. need a little bit of accountability. We. do have to be able to say that we can. get rid of people that stink. Like I. think for the good of the league, for. the good and integrity of the game, we. have to be able to do that. That's where. the NFL is coming from. And the Referees. Association says, "We've.

always had the greatest deal in all of. sports, basically. We don't have to. answer for anything. We don't have to be. off season. We don't have to train. We. don't have to do anything. Yeah. You pay. us. Mhm. And then guess what? Never. fired. So, if you want to get off of that. contract a little bit, if we want to. start there, which is where we have. negotiated the last 100 years, we can. certainly do that. Both of them have. good stance because if the replacement. refs come in again, the Referees. Association will have leverage pretty. quickly, which is why the NFL was like, "We'll have New York make the calls.". And it's like, "All right, well, that's.

going to piss people off. The refs are. going to get some leverage there. Something terrible is going to happen. The refs are going to be able to get you. just like they did after the Fail Mary.". And I think because you're on the field. and because I had a chance to, you know, ride alongside some teams, I think we. care more about the ref thing than. anybody else. And. if it becomes a big deal, I would like. them to say we did journalism. Okay. Yeah. They won't, but. We've done some journalism. Uh is there. any chance. Is there any chance though that the. replacement refs come on and they've. done this vetting process and they've. worked them out a little bit to where it. kind of goes off without a hitch and.

they do a decent job? Maybe. Yeah, and it did say in that article. that there were some college refs from, you know, the NCAA, obviously, that were. willing to go up. So, it wasn't like a. unanimous, "Hey, we're not doing this. cuz of the union." It was kind of like a. There were a few that would come along. which would be massive. Is it? I sure hope so. >> Vanderbilt What's the Vanderbilt? >> way that guy's a scab. Him and his crew. are not a scab. >> Vanderbilt and the boys getting the call.

up to Sundays, Thursdays, and Mondays. could certainly be something. And then. they're so good that the ref association. and be forced to yeah. Be you can afford to be. But I don't. think Vanderbilt will do it cuz he's so. close. Yeah. So close. It's fascinating. Okay, let's go to the NBA, shall we? In. the middle of playoffs. Obviously, uh. the six serieses that are left all have. go home implications happening in the. NBA playoffs. There will be three games. this evening as the Knicks play the. Hawks at 7:00. Celtics take on the. Sixers and the Nuggets take on the.

Wolves after a 2-day break. Fascinating. to see how that all affects everything. Joining us now, 15-year NBA vet, three-time champion. ladies and gentlemen, former NCAA. champion, McDonald's All-American, star. ESPN NBA analyst Danny Green. YEAH, YEAH, YEAH. NO, NO, HIT hit uh. Appreciate you guys having me, man. I'm. on my way to the two ESPN now. It's the. biggest job that I It's the most. important job that I have now, so I'm. heading to the studio. So. Okay, are you driving right now?

Like actually, are you driving? Uh no. I just have my seat belt on. Okay. In the back. Okay, cuz it looked. like you put your hands onto a wheel. there [laughter] after you gave the. double deuce and then went to the wheel. We just want to make sure you're not. doing anything stupid, Danny. You know. what I mean? Don't be stupid. >> No, not at all. Not at all. Did you just turn on a turn signal? Did. you did Daniel! I did not turn on the. turn signal. It might be self-driving. >> What do you Do you have a hand cuz I. guess you NBA guys, you could reach from.

the back seat, I guess. >> it on the steering And just kind of. drive from the back seat with you. Sunroof, though. >> You guys have I got you guys You guys. are hands-free. Got you guys magnified. in. We got the stands. You know, when. you do. when you do media stuff, you got to have. stands to make sure that your phone is. stable. Okay, I want to let you know I. don't love what's going on here. I don't. like I don't like that you're you're We. cannot be a distraction. You don't you. understand? You are a. uh a very See, now you're at a red light.

right now. Now [laughter] you're at a. red light right now. I I. Yeah, I I can tell. I can tell right. now. We're totally safe here. We're. totally safe here. Okay, yeah. [laughter] All right, guys, let's make. sure we're doing that. Let's be smart. about it. Nice car, by the way. 15 years. in the NBA does certainly have its. perks. We appreciate you joining us. Uh. let's talk about some of the stuff. happening around this NBA. You obviously. won a championship as a Spur back in. 2014. Very different team now with. Wembanyama. Can you tell me about this. Spurs team and can you tell me about. Wembanyama a little bit from an.

ex-player with obviously still. connections around the league? Yeah, I mean, their team is is very. deep. They're a really good group. Wembanyama is a special special talent. There's something things you can't. teach. You know, him being 7'4" and that. wingspan uh I was lucky enough to play. with some really great big men like Tim. Duncan, like Anthony Davis, Dwight. Howard, even Marc Gasol, you know, Serge. Ibaka. Like guys that I could play. defense and not have to worry about you. know, the rim and because they're going.

to protect it for me. He is just another. level of that. Like. a lot of guys go in there deterred and. scared to shoot the basketball because. of him. And he still gets four five. blocks a game with guys knowing that. he's there and scared of him. So, I. could imagine. you know, what his blocks per game would. be. if they tried to challenge him more. often, which if you're smart, you. wouldn't do that. So, yeah, this is a. really good special group. They're. young. They showed some of that in the. first round. So, if I gave them a grade. for round one, it would probably be like.

a B+. Um because they they There's a Portland. team. Don't respect them. They're really. good. But if you want to put yourself in. the same conversation as the Oklahoma. City Thunder uh. you know, that team in a championship. contention. you shouldn't be playing behind in the. series. And I feel like in that series, they were playing from behind a lot. But. I think they learned a lot from it. I. think they grew from it. And it'll make. them better and more prepared for. whoever they face in the second round. That could be the Denver Nuggets. It. could be the Minnesota Timberwolves. We. don't know. I hope Wembanyama does the.

dunk contest next year. Uh that bounce. in between dribble behind is sick. That'd be a winner if it was to happen. Uh Spurs trailing in games, but. obviously won the series 4-1 over the. Blazers. Oklahoma City uh reigning. champs, they swept the Suns 4-0. Hey, Danny, call us when you get to the. place. I'm getting anxiety. You're the. man, ladies and gentlemen. It's Danny. Green. I'm getting anxiety. I can't. I can't do it. I can't do it. >> We're good. We're good. We're totally. safe here when he's at the red light. How many kids are like, "Look, both. hands here." I'm like I'm like, "Yeah, right. I can't do that." I got to get. No, no, yeah, no. Tell him to hang up.

Say he's still talking. And call us. whenever he This has always been a thing. with this show. >> Oh, yeah. I can't My. >> No one's ever wanted to be on the show. more than Danny Green right there. because that was the most unsafe thing. I've ever seen. >> Ever. I don't know what he's doing. That. was cuz then I did think, "Oh, he is in. the backseat, maybe." And I saw him. literally turn on turn signal and he's. checking traffic. It's like, "Yeah, right. Can't have that happening. I'm. not going to be associated with that.". I'm also a motorcycle driver. He's. driving in LA, too. I'm pretty sure he's. >> No, he's the No, he's he's at ESPN. >> but don't they do NBA Today from LA?

Maybe they don't. That's the Immediately. what I thought was, "Jesus Christ, he's. he's on the 405 right now.". You know, looking down. No, no, no. I. hope that's not the case. I hope that's. not the case. I I would like to say that. that has always been a part of this. program. AJ, we I have always I AJ. probably not. I guess AJ's like, "Yeah, we're rolling.". Might get a little action out of AJ. watches movies on an iPad when he. drives. Yeah, he'll close his eyes for. two minutes to see what happens. >> 30 minutes if Yeah, 30. Absolutely not, Ty. You know that. He is an ass driver. Uh-huh.

Documented ass driver. That's very. subjective. It's very subjective, but. you can You know, we're talking. Wembanyama, I think, some kind of. sports. No, >> [laughter]. >> we're talking about all-time leading. tackler for the Green Bay Packers being. on the record as saying, "When the sun's. going down, it's tough for me to drive. I just fall asleep." Yeah, that doesn't. mean I'm a bad driver. That means I fall. asleep when the sun's driving into the. sun as it goes down. Okay, so honestly, by your driving would be a trait I think. that would say you're a bad driver, no? Mhm. No, like a bad driver would be like. uh lack of awareness. Like you can't.

figure out WHEN YOU'RE ASLEEP. SLEEP. YOU HAVE NO CONSCIOUSNESS. You're you're you are asleep. Well. >> I'm aware of it, so I can beat it. I. already I know going in, "Hey, this is. when I get tired. I got to find a way to. stay awake." Okay, and we're. appreciative of the fact that you beat. it now, but there was a time in your. life where you were just out there. falling asleep behind the wheel, waking. up with two feet on. right foot on the gas, left foot on the. brake, brake lights on the entire time. while you're falling asleep. I mean, that would be considered a bad driver, okay? I just want to let you know. >> That'd be a tough situation, but yeah, I've never been in a situation as.

dangerous as that. I promise you. Okay, that is Okay. All right, that is how you. describe it. I don't like that that. happened at all. What I do like. I like Steve Bisciotti saying, "I want a. draft pick." For the first time in his. relationship with the Costas, that I do. believe. First time maybe in his. ownership of the Baltimore Ravens, our. favorite owner on a microphone, Steve. Bisciotti of the Baltimore Ravens, said. he negotiated with his GM to make a. pick. What unfolded? Cinema. >> [sighs].

>> Hello. Hello. Hello. Is this Adam? Yeah, it is. Adam, this is Steve. Bisciotti. I'm the owner of the Ravens. Yes, sir. Well, I'm good friends with. your coach, Dabo. And Dabo Yes, sir. uh uh my GM, this is. the first call I've ever done because my. GM and I negotiated something this year. for the first time, and that was that I. was going to get a pick that I get to. pick by myself. So, I started working. with Dabo a little while ago, and uh he.

told me that you are the highest. character player he's ever had in his. program. Yes, sir. Appreciate that. Well, he. That's how highly he thinks of you. And. so, I started watching you, and I found. out that your whole story about uh uh. conceding uh uh being a wide receiver. and doing what Dabo needed you to do. most. And. you've got a lot of growing to do and to. become a good running back. But uh what.

what with your character and your. pass-catching skills, uh I believe we. just got you a year earlier than. everybody else is going to find out how. good you are. So. Yes, sir. We are about. to put you in as a as the newest. Baltimore Raven. Yes, sir. I appreciate y'all. It sounds. sounds good. >> where are you today? I'm in Myrtle Beach at home. With with. who? Your family? Yes, sir. Say they're going to be. excited that you're going to be uh. taking handoffs from Lamar Jackson.

Yes, sir. They are. All right, good. I'm. going to let you talk to Ed coach uh. Minter, okay? Okay. Welcome to the Ravens. Hold on. Appreciate it. What a moment. Hey, that's beautiful. I. like the behind-the-scenes stuff of. this. And how about first time ever the. owner drafts Adam Randall uh drafts. anybody? The guy's going to get a lot of. opportunities. Mhm. Yeah, Gus Heupel. first-year head coach. Yeah. Yeah, I I He said, "How's it. going? Tell your family you're going to. be taking handoffs from Lamar Jackson.".

He's going to be doing that. Okay, I. think he sounds like the person that. Bisciotti would build a team around. For. that to happen, I hope Adam Randall. understands how special of a moment that. is. And I hope this works out because we. love Bisciotti now that we're learning. of him over the last couple months only. Yeah, I didn't That's the first time I'm. seeing that video, too. That That's. really cool. I like how Bisciotti says, "With your like what your high character. and your pass-catching ability, you're. going to have a good chance here." Like. you It's not This isn't like a charity. case because you're a good dude. It's. because you're you're a stud on the. field as well. That's why I like that. you have both of those. You conceded the.

fact that your running back's going to. play wide receiver. I think we're a year. ahead of everybody knowing that you're. supposed to be a running back. It's like. uh Bisciotti might know ball a little. bit, huh? And how about Dabo? That boy. still got the fastball with the mouth, huh? >> Oh, yeah. Dabo, I mean, he he's the. goat, obviously still. Part of me when. I'm seeing these cuz I feel like maybe. it's maybe it's just recency bias. I. feel like this year we're getting every. single one of these kind of like behind. the scenes looks at when these guys are. getting drafted and part of me is kind. of like, "Ah, I don't love that cuz this. is, you know, one of like the more. personal." A lot of these guys are.

crying, but the more you do get to see. these, like it is just such a cool. moment and that is one thing that I. really do appreciate that all these. teams put out because you know, I mean, we see everything in the first round. with the dap ups with Raj and stuff like. that, but like this is the stuff that's. really special when you see a fourth. round pick or like a a late round pick. and it it still I mean, it means this it. they might as well be going, you know, first overall. >> Yeah, and look at the family, look at. the mom I mean, the whole team, the. community, everybody's been working for. that their entire lives. Draft is still. so special. We're very lucky that we get.

to be a part of the coverage. I think a. lot of people watch the draft. >> Oh, it sounds about right. >> Yeah, it feels like a lot of people The. draft has officially become a massive. spectacle as it should. A lot of things. happening around the NFL. It's also. announced that the Baltimore Ravens they. have signed Calais Campbell. >> [applause]. >> It'll be his 19th NFL season. We got a. chance to see this guy whenever Miami. had their run during the college. football playoffs. He was on the. sideline, towering over everybody, in. better shape than everybody. One of the. greatest teammates of all time and a man. who's obviously wrecked shop on a. football field at the defensive line. position. Not only getting to the.

quarterback, stopping the run, disrupting an offensive line, special. teams. Sky blocks kicks all the time. He's an avatar. This man's a monster. 19. years at D-line in the interior, AJ. Calais Campbell going to Baltimore. Love. that Jessie Minter said, "Yeah, I think. we could have a Calais Campbell in the. locker room for the first year around. here.". You know what's awesome about him? Like. he can still play at such a high level. He's not like, "Hey, we got the old. savvy veteran here to to teach the young. guys how to go about it and you know, their process and how to prepare for.

games." Like, no, this dude is still. making plays. Like, just a what a what a. unique outlier. Like, he's going to be. 40 years old on September 1st. Can you. imagine being out there still I mean, he's been in the trenches for so long. and the dude continues to do it. I yeah, I hope he plays for 10 more years. >> Yeah, I think it's I think it's a cool. thing. Jessie Minter, we believe in, right? I think so, yeah. I believe in. Bashaud Breeland. Definitely. Changing his ways. >> Lamar. >> I believe in Lamar. >> I mean, Madubuike, their other stud. D-tackle, he apparently is cleared. So,

now it's Calais Campbell, Madubuike, uh Trey Hendrickson, and then their. second round pick Zion Tillery, who's. like 6'6 270. >> Calais is a free agent. Calais is a free. agent. I know, I think they're going to. resign him. That's what I'm saying. I. don't know. They bring in Calais. Campbell, that kind of scares me. Actually, it was my thought while I was. watching Calais Campbell kind of do his. thing and then I thought about who. Calais Campbell is as a teammate and how. much of a leader he is. Remember Tyreek. was going through car that pulled over. it was Calais I mean, like. Calais is the epitome of an NFL. teammate. Like, that is.

Not only. he's forced to be listened to because. anytime somebody that large talks, everybody's going to listen. You know, kind of comes with the And think about. like there's never going to be any like. foolishness on that defense. Like, if. you are say you're in a walk-through and. guys are jacking around, like Calais is. in the room, it's not going to happen. Remember Lamar took all the TVs off. >> Yep. Yeah. the walls all the games. >> Yeah, there was. yeah, cuz he said he would have taken. the TVs off the wall if he could, too, but Mr. B paid for all that or something. like that. Cuz Lamar, I think, was. having a little bit of issues of maybe. some tomfoolery happening around that.

team last year in the locker room. Now, obviously, Harbaugh moves on, it's a new. coach. I think Calais Campbell is a good. signing. I I. I'm a huge fan of his. Mhm. And every time his name comes up, I. bring it up. You walk into an event. and you look scan the crowd and events. aren't really your thing, maybe. Let's. say I'm talking directly for me. Okay. Hate events. Don't like anything about. them. Live in Indiana, so we don't have. to go to. events much.

Every once in a while I go to event, good time, though. Always dependent upon. who's there, okay? Who do you get. trapped around at said event? There's. always like a trappage that kind of. happens at these events. Anytime I walked into one and you just. scan and you see [ __ ] big Calais at. the back, it's like, that's where I'm headed. Okay, head. down, straight to the massive guy. And. that's happened numerous times. Every. time, good time. Every time, so nice to. everybody. Every time, like just. complete like the energy, the juice, the.

whole it's just like he's he's a special. individual. I I I 19 years at D-line. out of the U is something that'll be. first ballot Hall of Fame worthy. And. for him to continue to go, I hope we do. cherish it. >> I think it was the Miami Hurricanes Ole. Miss game in Arizona where he was there. on the sideline for the U and it was the. same exact thing. He stick sticks out. like a sore thumb and you walk right. over to him and he's like the nicest guy. of all time. >> Yeah, definitely sounds like he looks. >> No doubt. Definitely he he it's not a. different voice. Like, where was I at. Raw where that guy recorded me? I think.

it was San Jose. >> I think, or yeah. >> San Louis, maybe? Yeah, one of the two. San Jose or San I think it was San Jose. I think it was yeah, guy had a camera, kind of a bigger guy and he was like, "You suck." And I'm so [laughter]. "Is that your actual voice right there?". Like, that was a genuine wonder. Calais. Campbell opens his mouth, it's like, that's how a 6'8. 19-year NFL D-tackle is supposed to. deep. >> Yeah, he's got this deep baritone. And. he's done good. Congrats to him. Speaking of doing good, let James.

Cook graduated. Will walk on May 8th. from University of Georgia. Go Dawgs. Go. Dawgs. Go Dawgs. Will walk at Georgia's graduation. ceremony on May 8th after completing his. degree. Uh congrats to him. Obviously, this is. something he wanted to get done. The NFL. does a very good job of getting you in. contact with the people to make these. types of things happening. With. e-learning now, who knows how many. classes he had to show up for, how many. he had to do at home, though. Certainly, mightily he earned this. They didn't.

just hand this out. They don't just do. that because investigations happen and. they can lose a bunch of stuff. He had. to have done something. I hate whenever. people immediately say like, "Oh yeah, cool. James Cook bought a degree." It's. like, if that was if it was as easy as. that, I'd have a degree right now. I do. not have a degree. I got a lot of. buddies that would have them, yeah, if. it was that easy. They try People do. try. They definitely try. Certainly. I I. thought about hiring a team to get me a. doctorate. So, and I guess that's just. not how it goes. So, congrats to James. putting the work in, the effort in to. make this happen. And I know his. family's pumped up. AJ, did you.

graduate? Yes, I did graduate. Post getting. drafted? No, I stayed I was still like I was. still in school when I got drafted. Like, I I didn't finish up till that May. sometime. >> Did you redshirt or leave early? No, I did I was just there all four. years. Played special teams mainly my my. freshman year. And started those games and had like 15. tackles. I backed up Segrest. He rolled his. ankle, so I got to start a couple times. Shout out to him. Shout out to you. I'm who knows how many hours I am away.

now. I was at one point 13 hours away. >> Can you imagine going to sit in What if. someone gave you a schedule and they. said, "Okay, for the next 3 months on. Monday, Wednesday, you got to go to. class from you have a 10:00 a.m. to. 12:00 p.m. Just that. Just that one. class." Uh I I don't know if I'd be able. to do it. I wasn't able to do it in. college. So, that was kind of my big. issue. >> it'd be impossible now, I feel like. Yeah, the e-learning, I think, kind of. opened some things up for people to. maybe get back in there, but it's going. to be hard for me to take anything. serious at this stage. Yeah, cuz even. the e-learning now with Zoom, it's like. that's still kind of a classroom. Like,

you're not just scrolling through. Like, there's a teacher and you guys are all. in a little box. Like, we've seen those. videos of people, but that was the whole. thing with J.R. Smith, too, when he went. back. Like, J.R. Smith was like, "Yeah, I'm going to class every other day. Like, this is very difficult also doing. this while playing golf.". >> Yeah, I they tried to get me to go back. numerous times. Um. Like, do you have any idea how much you. have left, though? So, they wouldn't. release they wouldn't release I had a. 100 parking tickets for my scooter. >> Sure. Oh, yeah. Okay, my scooter had 100.

parking tickets, so they would not. release my diploma? No, not my diploma. I didn't graduate. My files. Yeah, right. So, the NFL was trying to get my. files to see how many hours it was and. they were like, "We're not releasing it. The guy's got 100 some parking tickets. or whatever." Like, through my scooter. I didn't know they could tie my scooter. back to me. I guess they, like everybody. else, knew it was my scooter cuz that. thing was never registered to anything. So, I kind of did a couple different. times say, "Uh-uh, that's not mine. Those aren't mine." And then they came. back, "Yes. So, pay that bill, get the. fuck" I think I had one semester at one.

point, but that was early in my career. they were trying to get me to finish it. I think it was DT, David Thornton, who's. director of player development or maybe. Rich at the beginning. They were trying. to get me to go back and do it. Now, it's got to be those hours have to be. just multiplied, I would assume. Who. knows how many of my classes that I. actually went to and graduated from. still count. Yes. I I don't know if any. of those things will count now. It's a. whole different world now. >> know cuz you didn't transfer. So, if you. only had 13 hours or like a semester. left, I don't I don't really know how. they could fudge that and and change. that. I think that's pretty steadfast.

>> Maybe James Cook motivated me here to. walk across that stage. [clears throat]. >> cool. What? Is anyone that goes to the league. graduate? I said, "Come on. Now, we we. you really think you're going to go back. to college? Now, let's come on. You got. a lot of time. You're not doing that. We. can move on from that." You know, that. was a quick That came and went pretty. fast, I think. Yeah, yeah, you're right. We are passing, but go on. What were you. saying? Any of these guys that are in. the NFL right now that are transferring? Does anybody graduate? Yeah, does anyone. graduate? I know it's like a common. thing if you're a big recruit, you you. graduate high school early and you go.

and enroll and you take part in spring. ball. But then if you're going to go to. the league, is that how many people are. graduating? Are are all you just have to. count all the guys that don't play to. keep your graduation up? >> How about Coach K? Coach K was like, "They don't really do school anymore.". Something like that. Was that Coach K. that told you that? Cuz the NIL? Cuz I. have that question. Like, do these guys. have to show up at class? Like, are we. still worried about them showing up at. class now that we're play paying them. actually to do football? Like, is what. takes precedent. what takes. what's. >> Most of I mean, don't a lot of guys are. are strictly like online now? Yeah, but.

are they even doing that? >> They have they have to be. Like, you. look at like some of the Big 10s. Like, it. it'd be during like basketball season. and like teams from the Midwest would. take like their West Coast road trip. where they'd play Oregon, UCLA, and USC. and they stay out there. They're out. there for like 2 weeks. It's like. >> just eligible now? Yeah, I mean maybe. >> Yeah, you really want to be ineligible. do you? I feel like they do. >> hear that we don't. >> Because if I'm ineligible and I can't. This used to be a thing. So I can sue. the school for taking away money from. me? Cuz you are deeming me not able to.

get my money here. I assume there's some. Well, don't they take like kind of like. teachers or kind of guidance counselors. on the road with them so that they kind. of have some sort of study guide and. then during the summers don't they take. like. >> guys call Pete Thamel? We need to know. if they're doing the school. Is anybody. doing the school? >> so. When we get these guys who come on. and commit, it's always for the next 2. to 3 years. Like there's no There's no. thought or 3 to 4, but even that it's. like it's not. >> you have to do three and if you're doing. a summer semester plus your two actual. semesters, you only have to be there for.

3 years to get your diploma. >> That's why Coach K was like hey look, they're here for. >> 180 days and then they're gone forever. >> Oh yeah, cuz one and done actually. works. >> Yeah. You heard that. That used to be a. thing that where people were ineligible. Andy Katzenmoyer, one of the greatest. linebackers ever at Ohio State, he was. on the cover of Sports Illustrated and. said like. Ohio State is number one asterisk if the. big cat is eligible because of his whole. school situation where he didn't have. enough credits or something. Yeah, eligibility really mattered whenever we. were going through school. That just. stopped happening I feel like.

You know what? These kids smart. They're smart. >> right. I think after COVID they kind of. just like. >> Stopped caring. Ladies and gentlemen, joining us now is the authority on. college sports, Pete Thamel. Yeah, Peter. Everybody in the 31, Pete. Hey, we. appreciate you for joining us. Pete, do. they do school anymore? College. athletes? So Pat, most college athletes I would. say and we certainly don't have a a. holistic percentage on this. Uh take. classes online. Yeah, but do they do it? We We were talking about we haven't. heard of somebody being ineligible and.

then would they even be allowed to be. ineligible cuz then they could. potentially sue because you're affecting. money in gains if you were to deem them. ineligible from something that wasn't. their actual profession, which is. football. Has anybody been ineligible. because of academics since money has. started flowing towards football players. and athletes? I would say rare, rare, rare, rare. I'm. sure somebody has. Uh I can't think of. anybody off the top of my head, but that. was an annual thing. Like he's not going. to make it or you know, is missing games.

or didn't go to class, but with ever. since everything has shifted online and. and Reese has joked about this, the uh. yeah, the there's been magically no. virtually no academic issues. These kids. are all smarter. I'm I'm happy about. that. Nice. Hey, what's going on with. the Soursby stuff? Do we know anything. now that we didn't know maybe a couple. days ago and what do we think the. fallout's going to be inevitably? I don't think there's anything. particularly new. I think that the scope. of how much he gambled and some of that. has unspooled to use one of your.

favorite words, Pat, in the in the past. few days and. I think before there's any, you know, definitive action on what happens next, I think he has to, you know, leave. rehab. Um. they you know, and it's it's pretty. simple. Do they take an uphill fight to. try to regain his eligibility, uh which. again precedent would tell you is. something would have to radically. change, be it an injunction or a rule. change for for him to get eligible if uh. you know, the NCAA enforcement finds. everything.

um. as as it has been as it has been. reported or he goes to the supplemental. draft. Uh my understanding of the. supplemental draft, which is a bit of an. opaque world, is uh that you have to. declare by June 30th. Um we haven't had, I believe, uh a. supplemental draft the last 2 years and. I don't believe anybody has been taken. in the supplemental draft since 2019. Um if Brendan Soursby did indeed go to. the supplemental draft, he would. certainly be.

um the most prominent player since Josh. Gordon, um which was maybe a dozen or so. years ago coming out of Baylor. But I. ironically, Pat, um the reason you do. end up in the supplemental draft is you. don't have eligibility. That that I. believe, without looking at the rules in. front of me, is one of the tenets where. this sort of loophole emerged because. you weren't going to be able to be. eligible to play at your school, you. could then use this uh you know, use. this exit ramp um and and go and go. there. So, I have a feeling if it goes.

that way, we'll all be learning a lot. more about the supplemental draft. because it would be a. you know, look, he's a first-round. talent quarterback. um who was trending that way certainly. and may have even been this year if he. if he went. It's hard to say in a. hypothetical, but he was certainly in. the conversation, would have been. studied by everybody and you know, would. have been in the QB2/3. So, we know a decision will be made by. July then with the NCAA. That's never. happened, right? That that would have to. be a big part of it.

>> mean that would mean he would have to. declare by then. So, this is the process. >> only declare right after an NCAA. investigation and punishment came that. deemed him ineligible or. >> So, we can always count on the NCAA. working slowly, Pat. >> Exactly. That's what I'm saying. >> if there's one thing we could do. The. unique part of how uh the gambling. situations work is. he is not technically, I believe, been. declared ineligible yet, but he will be. declared ineligible. If you have a. gambling violation or a gambling.

allegation that arises or that's found, you are declared ineligible and then the. the process proceeds through a. reinstatement process. But before that. goes, they have to obviously investigate. everything. Um. so, that would all be lengthy. So, I would. it would be surprising to me if there. was NCAA clarity by June 30th. And. that's not knowing anything like. insightful, you know, from this case, but rather just covering. these things for 25 years and how they. tend to work. Got it. Okay, and I agree.

with you. I haven't been covering it for. 25 years, but I've been around watching. the NCAA operate. If us having an answer. by July would be. uh. just it won't happen. So, he would. potentially, okay, what if he did this? It's been done in the past. What if he. said, "You know what? I'm done actually. Uh I'm done." And they say, "Well, we. want to look into your stuff." Sorry, I'm actually not an NCAA person anymore. I'm going to leave. He gets banned, but. he can enter the supplemental draft and. then the NFL people would have to worry. and do the investigation cuz if it's not.

any legal stuff and it's just NCAA stuff. and he chooses to no longer do college. stuff, is there an investigation. happening? Like is that his out. actually? Just to say the whole thing. I. don't know. That's You would tell me. more, Pete, I guess. Yeah, I I think like it would make sense. to explore all. possible. >> Like coaches have gone to the NFL before. whenever there's about to be an NCAA. thing, right? >> Correct. Yeah, no, that that John. Calipari uh sort of invented beating the. posse. We saw Pete Carroll do it. It's. it's happened quite a few times.

>> So, this would be a player doing it, right? Investigations about to happen. Actually, I'm going to go to the NFL. That That. would be the first time. So, if there. isn't a legal investigation, then we. never really get. Yes. Yeah. My My understanding is the. only legal things that could emerge from. this is like underage gambling, which. is, you know, parking parking ticket. stuff. That's not anything that's going. to. >> Okay. So, Soursby could potentially, if. he comes out of this rehab not wanting. to gamble ever again, which we hope. happens for him, by the way, it sounds. like Surely, yes. Sincerely hope that. >> We genuinely hope that happens again and. then they just shut down this.

investigation cuz he decides to go to. the NFL. He could basically get a brand. new, right? He could He could kind of. get a brand new thing here with an. opportunity. Misses out on 5 million. from Texas Tech, but this could actually be a Coaches. have done it with the NCAA. They'll say. you can't back, you can't show clause, whatever, but then this could actually. That's interesting that that could be. the outcome here for Mr. Soursby. Sounds. like that that should be what he does. because regardless if he's going to get. suspend like he's not he's not ever. going to see that $5 million from Texas. Tech, right? Like that's that's not. happening. So, he why wouldn't you? I. don't know. Yeah, I'm very fascinated. We're all talking about this live.

Obviously, this not how most shows work, uh but on that note, that feels Mr. Soursby. sounds like there is an ability and a. chance for you to change your life here, you know? And uh that very rarely does. that happen. We hope you are able to do. that, but if you bet on your own teams. uh on a regular basis, we would like to say you can't [ __ ]. do that to us. Can't do that to the sports world. And a. lot of people obviously attacking the. coverage of sports having sports. gambling being prevalent. We That That's. two different This is a two different. world. In the sport take it from us, two.

ex-athletes. You know, it's just two. different things. Like talking about. sports and knowing that uh lines exist. and where money is and everything like. that, that is where we are as a society. with sport. And that's how some. societies have been talking about sports. for generations at this exact point. So, I I just think athletes have to continue. to be very disciplined. I don't I don't. necessarily think it's fair, but for the. good of [ __ ] everything in sport, we.

have to keep the integrity of the game. And I think we all kind of understand. that, which is an interesting the. Soursby thing's an interesting thing. because like if he gets another chance, the NFL teams are going to want to know. a lot, but how are they going to get to. know a lot if the NCAA doesn't get a. chance to investigate? Cuz didn't Coach. Harbaugh just say no? Didn't he just want the Chargers? Fascinating. Okay, last question from. me, Pete, before we get out of here. And once again, anybody that's going through anything, any type of addiction, definitely. gambling addiction, we hope you get to a. point where you want to help yourself. just like Soursby did there and we hope.

that helping yourself sticks. As. somebody who's been a part of a lot of. different interventions for a lot of. different things, uh it isn't until the person really. wants it and obviously you can motivate. them, but if you're in a spot, know that. you can get help and people love you. And that should be something I hope. Soursby's hearing even though it. probably feels like his life is. spiraling out of control. Last question. right now from me about college. everything. Wasn't March Madness good enough? What. What are you changing it, Pete? Why are. you adding teams to my Pete? Why are you. doing this to March Madness? I I don't.

think I understand why you would I. thought you liked college sports, Pete. I thought you liked March Madness. Now. you're going to make what? March Surplus? Why why are we. >> into a March mockery kind of. >> It is kind of a little bit of a March. mockery. Yeah, we don't need any of. this, sir. Why did you do this? Apologies if I offended you by something. I clearly didn't do and just in. reporting on. Um I would I would say this is this is. something Pat that there's been a.

drumbeat for this for for a while and. as much as some people have cast this as. a money grab and there's certainly money. involved. No one's naive to that. This. is really an access grab and a and a. byproduct of these leagues ballooning to. the size where they are right now. I. believe off the top of my head and. probably says something I don't know all. this cold. We have 18 in the Big 10, I'm. confident in that. I think we have 17. ACC schools, 16 SEC, believe 16 Big 12. When this TV contract for.

college basketball was enacted or you. can go all the way back, these leagues. well there was a Pac-12, right? And. these leagues weren't nearly the size. that they were and the money obviously. that the power conferences can pay their. players has created this huge. separation, right? Between the power. leagues and the non-power leagues and we. can throw the Big East in there for for. basketball chat at this point. So the. power leagues that now control the. voting and you know, have a have a big. say in this, they want more of their.

mid-tier teams in the tournament. I'm. sick of it. Sick of it. You know, we don't need all these. >> of the reaction, Pat. I mean you are not. you're not on an island in what you and. you and Ty and Connor were were. intimating there. Obviously, that has. been there's been a. there's been a strong rebuttal to this. publicly, but. um We'll watch. >> You tend to follow the money just like. Woodward and Bernstein taught us big J. journalists a long time ago and you. follow the money and you tend to get. your answers and this is Now there.

hasn't been a significant expansion of. the NCAA tournament since 1985. So. things grow, things evolve. Basically, Tuesday and Wednesday now of. the NCAA tournament are going to have 12. total games, six each, one one set of. those in. the great state of Ohio. Yeah, it is. Okay, so just like I was. going to say to you my reaction, everybody's reactions, everybody's. reaction, but then when it comes on, guess who's going to be paying the bill. for all of it? Me. Yes. And us. Yes. Now.

we get to shut it down for more days? Yeah, we like that. Go on, boys we never. heard of. GO ON, 500 [laughter] TEAM. FROM THE Big 10. Good luck out there, boys. Maybe you strike gold here in this. March Madness that has been blimped up a. little bit. We have a minute left here. on ESPN before we continue digitally. I'll let Tone ask you the question, but. if I cut you off in the middle of your. answer, it's because I got to send. people to SportsCenter. Go ahead, Tone. >> Yeah, Pete, big news yesterday the Big. 12 approved a deal with Redbird Capital,

private equity I believe company. So now. if schools opt in, believe they get $30. is that on top of the 20 some odd. million or whatever they get in revenue. sharing already? And why would a school. not opt in to get the $30? Yeah, actually Tone, very few feels like. from the Big 12, the early feel is very. few will do this. You look you have to. pay it back, that's why you don't do it, right? Like it's just not there's no. free money. anywhere other than the field goal kick, Pat. There's no free money in America. Oh, you think that's free?

>> [laughter]. >> That's expensive. Yeah, somebody's. paying the old game day every year. Random sophomore in Athens, right? So yeah, TE is on its way into college sports. We're feeling feeling it and seeing it. in different ways. It's manifested on. the campus side. It's now manifested on. the conference side and there will be. more of it, not less of it as things go. on, Tone. 30% or 30 million, I wonder. what percentage of revenue they're. looking for, for how long? Are you. signing one of those 20-year deals then. with Redbird Capital? How many people.

will be in charge whenever this bill. actually comes 5 to 10 years from now? Will there be people that are looking. out for their asses right now? We can. get an extra 30 mil right now. Who cares. who's going to have to pay the bill 10. years from now? There'll be some of. those types of decisions made. I assume. Commish, who is the one who probably. negotiated this deal, would like to see. some of his teams use this. Remember we. had an LED basketball court? He. obviously changed that. He does like to. think this guy is a forward thinker. I. think we have a lot of respect for your. check. Your Mark. Hunter. Sorry, Your.

Mark. No, Hunter Your a Check, Brett. Your Mark. Hunter Your a Check is the Arnst AD. Brett Your Mark is the. forward-thinking Big 12. Our Commish. And I would like to let forward-thinking. Big 12 Commish Your Mark know I got. respect for him and his twin brother. They are good good [clears throat]. business people and West Virginia. women's basketball team and our rifle. team are their Big 12 champs. So I would. be interested to see if WVU decides to. do this.

Very interesting. >> Yeah, as as will I. My hunch would be no, but. I'm not sure. Yeah, but who would be. making that decision? The president, the. AD? Yeah, what if Rich Rod wants to do it, but the president AD don't? Sorry. I think those would be you know, board. decisions, high-end decisions. like that if you will. I know high level. legit though. It has to come from. somebody that's potentially going to be. there. when this [ __ ] has to get paid cuz. there's everything's so cyclical I'm not. cyclical. What would that be? Revolving?

Everything's so revolving in some of. these Big 12 schools like Wren Baker. We. thought we're going to lose Wren Baker. when any AD job leave. So if AD is. making this decision to check into one. of these private equity things, it's. like. AD, is he going to be here in 15 years? Does he care if we're [ __ ] paying 15%. of revenue 15 from years from now, whatever the percentage is for 30. million right now? I don't think so. And. some of these people might be big. risk-takers. It's like hey, if we take. this 30 million, we can compound it, pay. this thing off quick and then we should. catapult ourselves into a monster spot.

Presidents too, they change. We've had a. president change the last couple years. It's like who's making that It's. That's a big decision. >> Huge. It's like high school kids signing. these deals that are like hey, we'll. take a percentage of this for this long. It's like you're kind of weighing. everything in the future and how much. striking gold now helps, you know? Deferred payments are good cuz you know. you got something coming later, but what. if you strike [ __ ] now? Then you. don't worry about what the payment is. later cuz it's only going to grow. Good luck out there, 30 million being. available. Pete Thamel, we hope you would take it because if we.

put a $30 rocket on your back, you'd be. at [ __ ] Mars, pal. You're the man. We. appreciate the hell out of you, Pete. [laughter]. Thank you. Good to see you guys. >> Goodbye, Pete Thamel. Goodbye, Pete. You get $30 rocket basically for your. organization. I wonder what you have to. give up for that 30 mil. >> Yeah, what percentage of revenue later. in life? Well, you going to win though. You get. all that money from the CFB and all that. stuff. Like you would it will If you don't win. If I Then you leave. >> I think you heard me explaining there.

The downfall of this is the people that. are potentially not going to be there. are going to be making decisions for. future generations of whatever that are. going to have to foot the bill. What is. the bill? We don't know. Okay, we have. not seen that detail yet. We probably. get it from Your Mark if I had to guess. I'm sure we can probably find that out. before tomorrow's program. We'll do some. journalisming, but if I'm a dog and I'm. in one of these powerful positions, I. get What are we all looking for? We're. all fundraising, right? We're going to. get $30 to do whatever we need to do. right now. I think I'm betting on the.

boy. I I think I'm betting on the team. I think I'm betting on us to use this. $30 to put us into a different. stratosphere. Now, if it doesn't work, I'm getting fired. and I'm not there. Which I don't have to. pay the bill. So of course you're taking. it. Yeah. >> Exactly. That's what I'm saying. He said. he doesn't think a lot of schools are. going to do it. It's like push comes to. shove, you get people in a room. Hey, do. you want 15 maybe? You can get up to 30. Do you want $15 to maybe help you? This. is what you're giving up. It's like it. would definitely That's like a reality. show. They need to be filming this [ __ ]. You got to present that to the board or. the chancellors, those people that are. there that won't be there 10 years from.

now, I guess. Then you got to you got to. talk them into Yeah, it'll be. interesting to see who does it. They. should be filming that. to make the money back. That's That's what they should they. should be doing cuz that's a huge. decision. You're You're Obviously, this. is every negotiation, but you're. leveraging the future for the moment. Can you create the moment to be bigger. than what the future would be? If I'm there, Mountaineers. We got 30 million right now. How much is. Cody Campbell giving to their [ __ ]. deal? Exactly. 20 million? Okay, I guess.

we'll get we'll beat Cody Campbell for a. year. Let's go ahead and try that out. >> And I guess that will be the tough sell. because the Board of Regents are all. people who have either been there for. like 10 plus year or will be there for. the next, you know, so you can't just do. like uh. well, you know, hey yeah, this doesn't. work out, I'll just make a lateral move. to a different big-time conference. that's kind of down there, you know, lower towards the bottom when they fire. their GM, I'll just leak to my agent, hey, you know, it's just I need a fresh. start. I think I want to go to you know, Colorado instead.

>> just said that the media rights deals. are up in 2031 as well. So if you're. deciding to get this money, you can. always sell a fake number coming in. 2031. You can always sell especially with some. of these deals that are happening around. sports, you can just say, oh, we're. going to get [ __ ]. 75 million a school. This won't even. matter. We're probably going to join. maybe even the Big 10. I mean there's. chance you know, so this money I'm. thinking more people are going to use it. than less people. Texas Tech, they're definitely going to take it.

Yeah. Do they need it though? >> Yeah, what schools need it? No. Oh, they're not going to give up 15% though. Yeah, exactly. What is the percentage? We need to know what the percent What's. this guy? I'm calling him. It's Cody. Campbell. He could just cut a check for. the return right away. He can get 30 million. What the [ __ ] is. this guy's number? This is not 100% Something else. Yeah.

>> [laughter]. >> We'll find out about the Big 12 going. forward. I have some. breaking news, I do believe. Okay. Wayne Gretzky has texted us. Wayno? Great interview with Rick. Yeah. Thank you for promoting hockey. 99 WOW, WAYNO! LOVE YOU, 99. SIGNS AT. 99. >> He gets it. That's Be a friend, tell a friend. something nice. Very [laughter] cool. It. might change your life. We're in this.

thing together. We got hockey. We got. NBA tonight. Wayno, there's no way he's watching now. >> WHAT A WALK-OFF, WAYNO! LOVE [screaming]. YOU, 99! WAYNO! [ __ ] YEAH, THAT'S A great one. Mhm. Isn't it nice to feel that? Yeah, it is. That's nice. We need that, especially after Valerie. Rest in peace. I love you, dog. Bob, rest in peace. Love you, dog.

[ __ ] Wayno says, "Hey.". Pretty good little sausage here with. [ __ ] talkie, eh? Got you, Patty. That's [ __ ] good. Hell yeah. Yeah, I. bet. Yeah. No, Universe Bowl Universe just called. >> Yeah, who? Universe Puck. Hi. By the. way, Wayno. >> to figure out what Big 12's got going. on. Yep, on it. And then who knows? [clears throat]. We'll see you tomorrow. Big guest. tomorrow, I think. >> Huge. >> Couple. I think so. From what I'm.

hearing. Let's remember we're lucky to be alive. every day. You wake up alive. Good. Yep, yes. Is there things that you can find around. you that are ass? Certainly. Should we try to move on from those. things? Yes. But remember, life good. Death alternative not great. Let's enjoy. it all. Thank you for being the best dog of all. time, though. I [ __ ] love you, girl. Got to get a tattoo, I think. Okay.

Yeah, I think I have to. I don't think it's going to be big cuz, you know. Yeah. >> Your whole back or what? Did you hear what. I think cuz I already got this one for. the daughter. Yeah. I think he's already. got that one. I think the tattoo. community knows that. if I go under, if they put me out, then I get a whole sleeve and my back. and like I pay my respects. >> Yeah, sure. You're certified now. Yeah, certified right here, you bro. Boom. Right here. You guys said that That is a painful. spot. Exactly. It looks like it, for real.

I'mma wake up someday double-sleeved. Take it off, whole back. Be sick. >> So, boys, I've been under for [ __ ] 28. hours. >> [laughter]. >> Four artists. Who sleeve over here? >> Sure. Oh, yeah. >> I'll be so much of this. So much of this. So much mana. Let's. enjoy life. Lot of mana. Be a friend, tell a friend something nice, it might. change your life. We're in this thing. together. We have no idea what. everybody's going through. Never forget. it. So maybe make somebody smile. Could. be a benefit for all lives, yourselves. included. Team on me. Team on three. 1 2.

3, team. Goodbye.