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Hello, beautiful people. and welcome to our [music] humble abode, the Thunder Dome, on this here we go. Thursday. This sports PROGRAM BEGINS. NOW. SPORTS. are the greatest and uh we'll be. celebrating damn near all of them. We. have a guest from uh the baseball world, Paul Skenes will be joining. Right. Uh. we have a guest from the basketball. world, Quentin Richardson will join us. Q Rich, friend of the program. Uh we. have a uh broadcast sports show. Uh so. we'll have somebody from all those Hall.

of Fames. Uh Mike Greenberg will be. joining us. >> Nice. Now people haven't seen Mike. Greenberg on this show in a long time. Greeny is different on this show than he. is on all the other shows. I would like to say that we get a much. more free, open version of Greenberg. He'll always come in here with things. that he's been wanting to say, but on. Get Up doesn't feel as if he can say. You know, he's point guard on Get Up to. the experts. Nobody wants to hear my. thoughts. We have him on here. He has. his thoughts. >> And we love hearing Greeny's thoughts. >> Oh, yeah. Classic old-school sports fan.

guy. And he is obsessed with it, which. is why we respect him so much. Going on 30 years, has never won an Emmy. Crazy. That. tracks. Has never won a Sports Emmy. Okay? And does not care. That that has. zero cares at all about. Cannot wait to. chat with him. And then obviously all. roads, okay? All roads are leading right. to. Bret Michaels of Poison. >> Hell yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He'll be joining us at about 1:40, 1:45, 1:50-ish there towards the end of.

the second hour on ESPN as we continue. into digital. Bret Michaels from Butler, Pennsylvania, which is obviously west of. Pennsylvania, which is obviously. Pittsburgh. He go on to have a smashing. singing career with Poison, and then as. a uh independent artist as well. Bret. Michaels, obviously Every Rose Has Its. Thorn, six songs in the top 10, and he's. a Yinzer legend. Okay? He found love in. a bus. I don't know I'm not sure if. they're still together, but he is going. to be performing at the NFL Draft. That.

was announced this morning. Him, Wiz. Khalifa, and Cam'ron. Boom. Wow. Six. >> free concert, free draft, free fun, free. football stuff happening in Pittsburgh. starting in April on the 23rd. Yes. >> Yeah. That's a Thursday. Yep. We're going to be there. Cannot wait to. get out there. Wiz Khalifa on the stage. Always good. He is a. I don't want to say a magician, but he's. a guy who sounds exactly like what it.

sounds like in Spotify. We have seen him. a couple different times. be at a level of good time that you. think to yourself there's no way that. guy. is going to be able to go and nail, you. know, every single word. He's a This. guy's Wizzy's unbelievable. He's one of. the most talented people I've ever seen. And now you see him, he's in super Oh, yeah, he's jacked. Absolutely jacked. And he's like. you know, he's going to He's been. training Yeah, he's going to be He's. going to walk out on the stage and kill. it. So, Brett and Wiz on Friday, Kane. Brown I believe on Saturday. Free.

concert, free football all weekend. for the draft in Pittsburgh. We cannot. wait to get out there. I mean, today's. huge day because Schefter will be. joining us in about 2 minutes as well. The Toxic Table's here at Boston Connor. at Ty. >> Schmidt. Do the Red Sox play the. Yankees? Is this like something that's happening. right now? No, no, I wish cuz we'd. probably give it to him pretty good. Sox. are one and five, so we're [laughter]. we're So, you guys are the worst in all. MLB? >> We are tied. And And what does that. mean? That's like being the worst team. in the preseason in the NFL. It It does. not matter. Real baseball starts in. April. Some would even say it starts in. May. So, we're not worried right now. By.

the way, I'm wearing a Roman Anthony. shirt, okay? It's the Roman era. It. might as well be the Roman Empire. He. was one for one with a home run. Is that. good? I'm pretty sure it is. Okay. One. for one? I I didn't know you could do. that in the Finally, someone said You. got Z Row coaching that team up there? We're not playing the Roman Anthony? >> [laughter]. >> Please, if Z Row was coaching that team, we'd be more worried about the warm-ups. than we are about the actual baseball. That's why we're going to be One and. five. Z Row would have that team at. least four and two. Not true. We know. that's not true. AND THAT'S WHY I Z ROW. IS OPERATING ON restrictions from the.

MLB teams that nobody else was allowed. to know about cuz MLB teams would look. like I'm They're allowed to do. a certain amount of this, certain amount. of that. Only allowed to talk so many. words to certain guys cuz MLB didn't. want him to say as much. This guy. couldn't motivate all that he wanted to. motivate. And you're here saying that. you could be worse than one in five. I. don't think so. You guys are worse in. the league. >> D-Rod couldn't motivate cuz he was. calling him McCool ya, okay, every other. day to give the boy He got both feet. dry, girl. Not not good enough, it seems, unfortunately. >> when McCool ya talked. Okay, yeah. Did. they win Did they win it all? No. So, it. really does Let's celebrate silvers.

around here and then see what start. happening, okay? And then all of a. sudden a whole You guys were dying to be. a silver rating. Now, one in five, you're worse than a All of MLB. WE'D. RATHER GO 0 and 162 than win a silver. That's how much we want the gold. And. I'm not worried about the socks, okay? We finally are getting back to Fenway. We haven't been home yet. All right, so. sue us. We had a slow start. We had to. play in Houston and in Cincinnati, two. of the grittiest clubs out there. Yeah, I think we're going to be just fine, especially when we ain't winning at. home, okay? Okay, I'm sure they're. thankful to hear your optimism, uh cuz. one in five's tough. I.

THIS AIN'T FOOTBALL, OKAY? THIS AIN'T. FOOTBALL. WE MIGHT as well be 0 in a. quarter of a game if this is football, all right? We're we're We're not even. hitting our stride. We're going to get. hot at the right time, not when nobody. cares at the beginning. >> How are the Yankees? Ass or we good? >> are five and one and they actually their. uh their rotation has the lowest ERA in. like the history of baseball through. this many games. So, I agree with. Connor, you know, um at this point in. the season you're not really going to, you know, be jumping over hoops or. anything like that. But when you have a. historically great pitching staff in a. league that's been around for Well, I.

don't know, almost 150 years. >> not even there yet. >> Yeah, and your and three of your guys. are actually hurt right now and not. playing. You're feeling pretty good. So, uh yeah, you know what? The Yankees are. going to be just fine. How's Judgey. doing? We We getting hits? >> Not great, but that's the you know, that's the We're not getting hits still? Well, Judgey's got two dingers. So, he's. it's not, you know, but he he doesn't. look like uh you know, mid-June Judgey. How's Judgey's doing? We love him. He's. had a little bit of a slow start. What? Everybody we know? What What is going on. over there? No, no, you know, it's okay. They just got done playing in Seattle.

It's cold as out there. It's rainy, you know, just you're not ready. And. like the Red Sox, they haven't been home. yet. They got the home opener at Yankee. Stadium tomorrow, but there's a. difference, you know. Yeah, we're 5 and. 1. >> That's different, okay? >> 5. >> real pitchers. All our pitchers are. bringing us spaghetti and meatballs. It. is the most frustrating thing I've ever. watched in my life. >> to throw BP out there? It is absurd. Ain't that a big part of baseball? >> Big part of baseball. So, yeah, maybe. we'll be worried in a little bit of a. later date. >> are in last place right now. I've been. told end of April is where I should.

really start getting pissed. Right now, I'm just temporary. All right, we'll. hold that conversation about the Roman. Empire, even though we love Roman. Anthony. And we hope he gets maybe sent. to a team that's 500 or better. Maybe he. goes to one half of the hammer Don. Cowboys team, the Pittsburgh Pirates. home opener tomorrow, big deal. Paul. Skenes will be joining us in 14 minutes. They're currently 3 and 3. Baseball. though, very difficult to kind of figure. out what's going on this early, and. especially whenever it comes to. gambling. Yeah, it. yes, gambling like when you're gambling. with these and you're looking at the. starting pitchers, you have to look at spring training.

stats and what they did in spring. training, and then you have to decide. does spring training matter? Were they. even trying in spring training? And then. now we're getting into the second starts. for these guys that started their their. openers. So, you can look at the stats. on how they pitched in their first game. That's hard. I mean, some of the best. players in baseball right now are 0 for. like 19. Uh some some of the best bats are just. really really struggling right now. Early in the season, it is hard. We've. talked about this during the WBC, like. this like Harper came on and said like, "Yes, I wish this was June and July when. I'm actually seeing things and like. we're back into the groove of things.". So, it's just really really hard to do.

Okay, well, we won't be betting on. baseball or darts, I'll tell you that. What we will bet on is we think that I. don't care that there's one in. Manchester today. It's not just one. It's night nine, okay? This is THE MOST. IMPORTANT. >> HALF OF THE SEASON. >> YEAH, THIS IS BASICALLY NOVEMBER. FOOTBALL. SO, let's make sure we're kind of locked in. on Manchester. Huge one for Johnny. Clayton, by the way. [laughter] Go. Johnny, go go go. Has to go back to the. winner's circle. >> We have I have decided with the mirror. that I will not put another dollar on. the way these guys operate.

>> Until today. No. Yeah, 2:00 we kick off. and we're going to need you on Littler. We're going to need you on Go to Go. >> Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, is. a man who's thinking the same way I am. These dart players, just by looking at. them, I can tell not reliable, okay? Those guys are going to have up days and. down days. >> bollocks. Huh? >> That is bollocks, my friend, okay? Last. What tell me what HAPPENED IN NIGHT. EIGHT, Johnny Clayton, Johnny. Rock? Guy with God comes out and just. gets absolutely stomped clear. They're. up and down. They're hit or miss. Luke.

Littler even can't find a triple 20, can't find a 180. You would think with the glitz and the. glamour that they have there, some of. them would just choose to lock in, you. know? Yeah. I I'm going to lock in, actually. I'm going to try to eat. healthy. I'm going to do exercises for. my eyes. I'm going to maybe work out a. little bit so that I can remain a. consistent throw. Like try to master, master, master this thing. But then all. of them say, "This what got us to the. darts dance, so not going to change. anything." And I guess I can respect.

that. But none of them are in shape. >> Yeah. So it's hard for me to. depend on them cuz I know they're not. even. really depending on themselves. Those. guys have never got up to an alarm clock. before in their life. Very obvious. They. get up with the alarm clock. >> That alarm clock goes off, they're like, "Who set that?" That is not theirs. You. know what I mean? >> No, I I see I I just think. >> along. Let's go to a guy that has an. alarm for everything. >> Littler has an alarm. Let's. And it it rings when he's down five. nothing and he comes back to win six. Okay. And [laughter] you can see Littler.

with his shirt off, too. We you know, he's. he he's a Greek god. >> Okay. Well, if that is the case, I will. only bet on him. >> IT'S LIKE GOLF, WHEN you have a big gut, okay? We we're we're all thinking of one. guy, all right? And when you lose a. bunch of weight and you lose your golf. swing, cuz you know exactly where your. arms are supposed to go, cuz you got a. big gut, and then you lose it, you can't. have that. They're not resting their. elbows on their guts like some fifth. grade teacher WITH A BOOK. >> I'M PULLING BRUCE.

>> [laughter]. >> I MAYBE I'M BACK IN. LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, joining us now is. a man. who has 11 straight I forget the number. Maybe 11 straight. um. I guess the guy that's joining us. doesn't have this, but news about a guy. who has 11 straight fully guaranteed. contracts in the NFL, I believe was the. number. I forget what the actual number. is, maybe five, six, whatever it is. Fully guaranteed contracts is the only. thing that this guy really has done. since first time he got franchise. tagged. Kirk Cousins is now a quarterback for. the Las Vegas Raiders. Kirk Cousins. signed a deal where he'll be getting. $8.7 million from the Falcons next year,

$1.3 million from the Las Vegas Raiders, and then he'll have a $10 million. signing bonus in the 2027 year that. activates on like the third day. So, it's basically a one-year $20 in total. money going to Kirk Cousin, $1.3 million. this season against the salary cap. roster for for the Raiders for him, and. then the Falcons are still on the hook, and then the $10 in the future so you. can pay me vet min now and I don't have. to be on the roster next year. Just. brilliant stuff. The man that broke the. news, the man that's going to tell us a. little bit more about this and why this.

is perfect for Fernando Mendoza. Kirk. Cousins, Kurt Signetti, I'm not saying. they're the same people, but we can kind. of have a similar conversation there. And Fernando and Kirk Cousins, feels. like that could be a very good tag team. for the Raiders who have spent a lot of. money on this particular off-season to. make their team better. Joining us now, senior NFL insider for ESPN Michigan man. Adam Schefter. >> Yeah, Schefter. Schefty, do you have anything to say. about darts or would you like to get. directly into Kirk Cousins becoming a. Raider? And how long did we know this. was going to be happening for? Well, it had been talked about that he.

could wind up there, and him and Clint. Kubiak worked together for 3 years in. Minnesota. They were together there, and. obviously the Raiders prioritized it. because they're paying the guy a $10. million roster bonus that's guaranteed. on the third day of the league year in. 2027. They're going to pay him another. uh 1.3 million this year, the veteran. minimum, and the Falcons are paying 87. So, it gets him up to $20 million this. year. So, when you're. being paid $20 million, that tells you. that a team wants you, and the Raiders. did want him, and I think he.

I think he's got a realistic chance to. be the opening day starter. That's what. the Raiders were looking for. They were. looking for somebody to take the. pressure off Fernando Mendoza, that they. don't have to rush him along, that they. could take their time, whether he's. ready in week 1, 4, 16, whenever. They've got Kirk Cousins to man the fort. until Mendoza's ready, and and by. getting this deal done, again, Kirk. knows the system that Clint Kubiak has. Clint knows Kirk very well. Two men. joined forces, and and uh he's the.

favorite to start on opening day now. Yeah, mentalities all seemingly aligned. with this group. Coach Kubiak obviously. fresh out of a Super Bowl championship. with Sam Darnold, no stranger to a. veteran quarterbacks kind of having a. second chance at life, especially with. Kirk there in Minnesota. Here's him. talking about successful rookie. quarterbacks in his eyes from the league. meetings. Yeah, look, I think in a in a. perfect world that he's he's watching a. mature adult, you know, go and. run an offense and run the team. Um but, you know, you just you know, the.

situation is you might have that player, you might not. You might might not have. that veteran just show him the way. So, he might come in and have to play. immediately. Um but, you'd rather you'd. rather him learn well before he gets in. the game. You don't always get to pick. It just doesn't work out the exact way. you want it to, but um at the end of the. day, you want to make sure that you're. bringing in an individual, drafting a. guy that, you know, is mature enough uh. to handle handle some adversity, whether. it's him starting the first game or him. starting the first game year two. All. right. So, obviously, that's head coach,

GM Spytek obviously in on this as well. I assume they knew at that point when he. was speaking that that was probably. going to happen. Ownership obviously has. to be involved. Has Tom Brady been. involved in any of these decisions that. have been taking place in a way the. roster is being reshaped this particular. off season because Tom Brady obviously. behind Drew Bledsoe. and you go Aaron Rodgers behind Brett. Favre you can go through the history. Patrick Mahomes behind Alex Smith you. can go through the history of football. Now Peyton Manning was start rookie year. thrown right into the fire you got to do. your thing so there's certainly been.

success stories through that particular. way but watching an older guy play. football is certainly something Tom. Brady watched with Drew and probably. used it as a source of information that. you can never get as a college player. and something that he probably thinks a. lot of guys that played immediately. didn't get a chance to experience. You. think Tom's a part of this as well? How much do you think he has kind of. been a part of shaping what the Raiders. have been doing going forward? I think. I'll look at it in the reverse way. I'm. not going to tell you how much he's been. a part of it because I don't know the. exact answer but I can tell you this. none of this surprises Tom Brady.

Absolutely none of it. Like he is in on. all of it. So how much he contributes to. the decision I can't say that. I don't. know but I guarantee you that he didn't. see the tweet today that the Raiders. were signing Kirk Cousins and go wow I. didn't know that. Wow that surprised me. So he's in on all these things and. Tom's a competitor he wants that team to. win very badly and he. offers his input however much that. matters and factors into the decisions. that they make. I would assume that his.

input should matter. I mean but if you. look at some of the moves they made we. need a good defense need to get this guy. center. Okay let's get him some. quarterback he can lean on. It feels. like Tom would be a good person ask. questions about having a rookie. quarterback become a successful. quarterback you would assume. Now. granted he was picked what 199 or. something like that and then Fernando's. going to be number one overall but man. if Fernando has his long term success. out there and they're able to build a. winner and it's directly after Tom Brady. becomes an owner there he's going. to flex that. >> Yeah. >> He's going to flex that hard and then.

people are going to tell him you got. your ass kicked by flag football players. though. Let's never forget that. Let's never let's never forget that. So, there's always going to be a humbling. factor that's going to go in there. Congrats to the Raiders. We feel like. this is a good move. Can we ask you. about a couple other NFL things. happening around the world? Okay, Brazil. Let's go. This is. back-to-back years now we're in Brazil. Is this just going to become an annual. thing? Ravens take on the Cowboys week. three, we're being told. We don't know. which day of the week it'll be on. Maybe. Schefter knows a little bit more. information. Brazil getting in the. rotation, Germany's in the rotation, England's in rotation. We believe.

Ireland's going to get back into the. rotation. Australia now has a game. It. feels like coming out of league. meetings, the a lot of people are. talking is like, "Hey, international and. flag is a big deal. International and. flag is a big deal." Brazil's just the. newest one for that, Schefty? And what. else should we be expecting? Well, it can't be on Friday night due to. the 1961 Sports Broadcasting Act that. we've already covered on this show in. depth the last time that we were on, right? So, I don't know exactly when. they're going to play that, and I don't. know if you set it up such that. one of these teams both these teams have.

a bye the next week. Usually, we start. byes in week four or so. I don't know how that's going to work. with Brazilia. I don't know the timing. You're right about the emphasis on. international and flag football. Like, the emphasis that the league has put on. flag football is huge. That is a big. deal to the NFL. You're going to keep. hearing more and more about flag. football, and you're going to hear about. these international matchups that are. going to be everywhere this year. I. mean, and it's just going to continue to grow. And as we get towards the next CBA,

despite the fact that the NFLPA's. protesting about the 18 games, I think. none of us are going to be surprised if. and when the league gets to that, and. then if and when there's an. international package, and if and when. every team that is playing one. international game per year. Like, again, is this something the players want? No. Is this something the players are going. to be paid to do over time? I would put. my money on that. Yes. >> What about the second bye week. conversation? I wonder how that's going. to go. I wonder how that's going to go. I guess. it's happened before, and it was not. good. Fans of teams don't like that.

there's two off weeks throughout an. entire season. And that's an interesting. thing because I think the players will. say, "Well, if you want us to survive, you're going to have to give us We're. going to have to get some sort of. break." Maybe it just becomes the new. norm, but if there's a second bye week. and an added game, obviously you do the. math, that's two more weeks of primetime. stuff, the money could go absurd, which. also goes back to the Kirk Cousins. point. The. uh salary cap lifted 20 million this. year. Remember? Wasn't It was way over what. projections were. I wonder what it's going to be next.

year. The 10 million that the Raiders. are putting in the next year, they're. like 10 million. We get rid of 10 million. Broncos got. rid of 80. Dolphins are about to get rid. of 100. 10 million that we just packaged. next year, we can kind of get rid of. that. Who knows what the salary cap's. going to go up into the right for. >> Rookie QB contract, too. Like they'll. have Mendoza for these next 5 years with. the option, so it gives you that. flexibility. >> a genius deal by them. I really like. that they were able to tell Kirk he's. going to get 20 million dollars, but. really we're only paying you 1.3 million. to league league min. That's a brilliant. deal. But on that note, with the.

international games and everything else. that's happening whatever days of the. week, we had games on Friday last year. Did we not it Yeah, so I guess to. Schefter's like kind of point about it, the whole entire act, last year and the. year before, I believe it was before the. start of the high school football. season, and that's why they were able. >> Day. I forgot about the Labor Day thing, the Labor Day thing. Okay. Go ahead. You were going to say. something? >> going to I was I was going to call up. the Sports Broadcasting Act to redo the. rules. I just want to make sure that we're. always adhering to the rules, Pat. I.

know how much you like to adhere to the. rules. Hey, man. Hey, listen, if you. want to guide us in the right way at any. time, go ahead and feel free to do as. such. Now, if I don't think it is. important enough to care about, I will. certainly let you know. Some. Broadcasting Act feels like in this. particular profession, we should try to. pay a little bit of respect to. Thank. you, 1961 Broadcasting Act. Hell yeah, we appreciate that. Okay, let's talk about some. turmoil, shall we? A little bit of Why. does this always happening from Ty to. you, Chef? >> Yeah, Chef D. Uh you know, we we've.

talked about this a bunch really over. the last several years. It seems like. right around this time or right around. the season uh starting, everyone's got. an issue with Jalen Hurts. Whether it's, you know, the team thinks he's the. problem, anonymous sources are coming. right after the league meetings, basically putting all the blame on him. There's still the A.J. Brown stuff going. around. Like, what do you read into all. this stuff not only with Jalen Hurts, what you're hearing about A.J. Brown, and also why is this just constantly. what's coming out of the locker room in. Philadelphia?

I mean, look, the year ended in disappointment, so. people are going to be digging in. And. that's a very intense media market, so. people want answers. And. Jalen Hurts' body language was not. always great last year, so I guess. people looking for more explanations. Look, again, I look at it like this. The guy's done a lot of things right. Like, he did win a Super Bowl two. seasons ago, right? Where he could have. won MVP of that particular Did he win. MVP? No, he didn't win MVP that game. I.

I uh Super Bowl MVP. Yeah, he did. He did. Okay, he was Super Bowl MVP. Okay, excuse me. I stand corrected. He's. the Super Bowl MVP two years ago. Leads. him to the victory. Could have won. another Super Bowl. Played well enough. He's been doing this at a time where if. we look at his offensive coordinators, he'll have Shawn McVay in this year. He had Kellen Moore and Pat Shurmur last. year, Kellen Moore in '24, Brian Johnson. in '23, Shane Steichen in '22, Shane. Steichen and Nick Sirianni in '21, Doug.

Pederson in '20. Different offensive. coordinator every year. Different. offense. Like, I know he's not the. quarterback that everybody wants, but. how about the fact that he's done a lot. of things that no other quarterbacks. have done with a number of offensive. coordinators. Could it be different? Could it be perfect? Are there questions. this year about what it might be like if. Shawn McVay wants him to line up under. center, which he hasn't. uh done great at which he's resisted to. do in the past. Yeah, okay, there's a. lot of questions, but we're still I. think taking apart a guy that's had a.

lot of success in this league. I I don't. quite get it. It happens a lot though. It feels like there's all it's always. happening. People what we were saying. yesterday is it seems like people are. way too comfortable talking about bad. about the franchise quarterback. Now, you can read that a couple different. ways. Are they way too comfortable cuz. they know everybody else feels the same. way they feel? So, they're like, "Ah, hell, I'll I'll be the one that. anonymously says it I guess which I. hate." Even though you make a living off. it, I understand that. I don't really. love anonymous sources killing somebody. in the same building that they're. working for and especially whenever that. one guy and what he does on the field. helps everybody else's resume out a lot.

in everything. So, I don't love the. anonymous source. This guy's the worst. even though Wait, we're not using I'm. not using anonymous sources to attack. and malign somebody's character, Pat. True. Yeah, you're breaking news, you're. saying. Yes, yes, yes. I got it. Yes, that's what I'm saying. Okay, so there. is a separation. So, you probably heard. me say this yesterday or somebody say. this before where it's like, "Hey, anonymous sources in sports are crazy.". I I get like anonymous sources in. politics and cuz people could die, okay, and like think the world's going. to happen. But in like sports, nobody's. going to be dying from anonymous. sources. I don't think. I mean, I I I.

would assume not. So, whenever like it's. an anonymous source in a building. killing somebody, that's what you're. saying. Like, "Hey, let's make sure we. separate the two from news break.". >> that. That that make me, just speaking. me makes me uneasy. We're we're using. anonymous sources to talk about. somebody's character or if they want to. go on the record and say, "I think this. guy is a jerk." Hey, we'll quote you, no. problem. But it's hard in my mind. I. don't think it's really fair to have. anonymous sources questioning somebody's. character. Now, if there are a lot of. people and you want to write a news.

story saying there are multiple people. that believe this guy's a jerk, you know, he's rubbed people the wrong. way and give a specific example. Okay, I. mean, there there are examples and ways. in which you can do it. But to quote. somebody like, "This guy's a jerk." I I. I don't know. I just don't I don't I I. don't love it. Like there's been places. and once again my name is on the show so. I can only speak from my perspective of. things which you know people get really. mad about but it's like legit. There's. things articles written about me where. they're getting anonymous source and I'm. like I know who you just went to to get.

that so like you did that on purpose. like that is this is a clear. I know who said that so you might as. well just write who said that in the. entire thing. I think that's what really. ramped fire it's like okay so you're. just going to say I do you can't say who. I am but make up a bunch of stuff out of. context that isn't true. It's like. that's disgusting I think I think I. don't think that is how it's supposed to. be but on that note we've amplified it. we all have and it's cuz it's huge news. cuz it's a Super Bowl MVP Like you said. and it happens every single year. We.

this is the the 10th time we've heard. this type of stuff about Jalen Hurts. >> Hopefully they get figured out over. there. Okay last question as we have a. Cy Young legend. on deck. Oh good baseball reference. Let's go down to Dallas Cowboys go ahead. Tone. Yeah Shefty Jerry Jones talked a. lot a lot of at the owners meetings but. one of those things was George Pickens. and his contract. What's the latest. situation with the Cowboys star wide. receiver and do you think there will be. a contract extension and if not will.

George show up to training camp? I know. that's a long way away. I'm skeptical that there'll be an. extension. It's early. It's April 2nd. but George Pickens is not allowed to be. in that building. unless he signs the franchise tender. He's not going to sign that franchise. tender without there being a long-term. deal. I don't see a long-term deal coming. into focus until right before the. deadline which would be the middle of. July which tells you that there's a real. probability that George Pickens will not. be there for the off-season program. Now.

if the two sides can figure out a. long-term deal that I think is going to. be very difficult then that's great and. good for both sides. They both get what. they want. But if they can't and I think. it's more likely than not that they. won't. Now, there's the possibility that we. won't see George Pickens who knows when. in the summer. He could come in a week. late, two weeks late, right before the. start of the season. He's under no. obligation. He won't be fined for. missing camp because he hasn't signed. anything. If they don't get a long-term. deal done and he hasn't signed that. franchise tender. And so,

I just think it's set up right now. to be a very tricky, challenging. situation for both sides. What would be. a fair long-term contract for George. Pickens? I think the two sides would. have differing ideas. He's not going to be there in the. off-season program. He's not signing the. franchise tender. CeeDee Lamb's 34. average a year. Other wide receivers are. getting more. What's the number? It's. It's a tricky deal to do. Hey, if a.

Jerry said he's got long-term plans for. Mr. Pickens. He's got long-term plans. He does. He does. That's. That's fine. Let me know when the deal. Maybe he gets a little bit of that. natural gas in there, the little honey. hole. You know, maybe George Pickens. gets a tiny shovel to potentially go dig. down into the honey hole that he has. found that natural gas is that's right. below his feet right now as we speak. Glory hole. >> [snorts]. >> Glory hole. Yeah, you'd like that. So, glory hole, I. believe is oil. Okay? I believe the. glory hole is oil. I'm not 100% sure.

Natural gas, I believe there is It's a. bit of a honey. >> Honey hole, honey pot. We're talking two. different natural resources here that. you can make a billions. AND BILLIONS OFF OF. NOT EVERYBODY LOVES. THAT. YEAH, NO. Not everybody loves it. And I'll tell you, I think it's a pretty. big talking point right now. Certainly. >> I think it is. It sounds like we got a. lot on this land from what I've been. understanding. Cody Campbell down there. in Texas Tech, he's got a lot of. shovels, man. Every time I text him asking where I. need to start digging, he never.

gives me an answer. But maybe one day. Sounds like a I appreciate you, Shefty. You know what you do? >> Hey, before we go, you know the uniform. Falcons, Pat? You didn't ask me about. the Falcons uniform. Clean new look for. Atlanta. Very sharp, very cool looking. We got Yeah, oh yeah, see here it is. Right here. Hold on. Hold on. CAN WE GO BACK? CAN WE GO BACK? CAN WE. PLEASE turn that up? Did he write it or. is he reading voice over everything? Turn it up. I once had a dream where I was a falcon. My eyes with new, fresh vision like.

nothing before. I could see in what felt like four. dimensions in time. One of them was. gold. I could now see everything. Sick. Unbounded from [music] the ground, I was. let loose. The higher I soared, the more. free I became. The sky was all mine and. I was the same. I am the fastest animal. on the planet. To naked eyes, a blur. Swipes of red, white, silver and black.

with a curve without alert. Prey have no. time to pray. In this dream, my body was a falcon, but. my mind was still mine. I could. recognize my city and nest from miles. away in detail [music]. without trying. All dreams feel real, of. course, but this one was different. still. >> [music]. >> A bouncing word I heard upon waking even. now gives me chills. Until no sound. I could still [music].

see everything as it is and was, but now. I'm flying on the ground. A new. red. rush. >> [groaning]. >> Yeah. That was Andre 3000? Really? What group was he in? Was he the Black Eyed Peas? >> [laughter]. >> LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.

SO GOOD. JUST SING IT WITH ME. UH-HUH, push that falls. Everybody move. to the back of the bus. Do you want to. uh with. >> Excuse me? We are the type of Y'all. don't want to say it Shafter. Uh Outcast. is the answer there. Him and Big. >> Outcast. Outcast. Yeah, they're in high. school just like Lil Wayne at the time. They're in high school dropping bangers. Uh Rosa Parks and go all the way back. through. Uh it uh Q-Tip and I, I believe. They're They're one of the first DMX, Ruff Ryders' Anthem.

That's the first thing I saw. That got. me into rap and then Outcast was the. next. Real quick, what's that? You have. breaking news? And Pat and also and also. congratulations are in order to Josh. Allen and Hailee Steinfeld for having. Did that us flapping cut you out? You. definitely gave important piece of. information out there at the end. What. you say? Do we know any more info or we. just want to send our love and health. and everything to the lovely superstar. baby girl. That's all we know right now.

Good for them. Congratulations. Josh, girl dad's awesome. You're going to. enjoy the hell out of it. Congrats to. both of them. You're the man, ladies and. gentlemen. I'm Shafter. Black Eyed Peas, Andre 3000. Yeah. Come. on, Shafter. Joining us now, ladies and. gentlemen, who we made wait way too long. is a man who's fresh off his first dub. of the MLB season. Cy Young winner, a. man who at one point. was here in Indianapolis pitching for. the Indians. Selling out the entire downtown area. Then he made his move over to. Pittsburgh, became an instant legend.

This LSU national champion is a. stallion, a stud, the future of baseball. and he's on the bump for the Pirates. Ladies and gentlemen, PAUL SKENES. >> [applause and cheering]. >> HOW YOU DOING, SKENES? HOW'S IT GOING, FELLAS? STEELY MCBEAM. HEY, uh great. hat. Honestly, I love what you're doing. there. I don't know. It's That's Steely McBeam. Yeah, I know. Steelers got a mascot and that was what. they came up with it. At the beginning. it was kind of mocked or ridiculed, but. now it's kind of just become a thing. I. love that you love Pittsburgh as much as. you do, Paul. Can we talk about that a. little bit? Pirates notoriously ass.

We've been spending money though now, and I think you are one of the main. drivers of it all because of your talent. and the optimism from the entire city. behind it. How do you feel this year. about the team? I saw you guys watch. that social media video where it's. Pittsburgh people talking about the. Pirates winning, and it does feel as if. you guys want to win for Pittsburgh. How. is that to start the season here, and. how do you feel at this exact moment six. games in? Yeah, it's been great. Um. You know, I had a uh. lost the series in New York and then. came back and won the series in.

Cincinnati and, you know, coming back. home with a 500 record and. fired up to. to, you know, have the home opener. tomorrow. It's going to be a It's going. to be a fun year. Okay, let's talk about. that New York We don't want to go. backwards, okay? Spaceships don't come. equipped with rearview mirrors. They. dip. Shout out, by the way, to Andre. 3000 who is not a part of the Black Eyed. Peas. You knew that. I know that you. knew that. Schefter just embarrassed. himself, but we don't need to go in the. back. That New York game, okay? That New. York game. You just got to eliminate.

that immediate Like how do you go about. processing that type of That had. to be the first time long time that. you've ever experienced something like. Maybe your whole life. Like how do you. process that and move on and then come. out with your best the next game. like you did? Yeah, just got to see it for what it is. Um. you know, the It's It's never as bad as. it seems. It's never as good as it. seems. So, um just watching the game, you know, understanding what went wrong, what went. well, and that's that's every game. You. know, you treat it the same as every. game. It's just a lot shorter that you.

can, you know, a lot fewer pitches that. you can look through after a game like. that. Um. which makes it a little bit easier, so. um It's not It's, you know, it's nothing. crazy. Just got to. get back into the routine and, you know, remember what makes you good. I think you didn't have that many. pitches yesterday, either. Feels like. we're on pace maybe to pick up a couple. games, you know, pick up a couple games. like maybe all the way into October. Maybe all the way into October. And. there's a new tradition.

There's a new tradition that has. certainly captivated the stars. It has. certainly captivated the universe and it. has certainly taken over Tone Diggs'. life who's obviously you're a massive. fan of the Pirates. We're hoisting things now, bud. Yeah, we. are Skiens and it's it is it's a. phenomenon. It's taking over the entire. internet. Actually, I wanted to throw to. the video so the people if they don't. know that can understand what hoisting. the cone means. Billy, why what made you. the official cone bearer over here in. the dugout? Well, Jake made sure that it. was in the dugout and if we're going to.

have a cone in here, you know, someone's. got to lift it up. It's not going to. hoist itself. So, >> [laughter]. >> just kept it next to me in the dugout. and anytime something good happened, hoisted it up and a lot of good stuff. happened with it. So, got raised a lot. yesterday. And again, it goes with the. the welder's mask or welder's helmet, whatever you want to call it. So, they. work well together. And we're looking. forward to a lot more airtime for this. thing. Yeah, shout out Sportsnet.

Sportsnet Pittsburgh and Hannah Mears. was doing the interview there and then. Billy Cook was the one talking and Jake. Mangum was the one who brought the cone. into the locker room. How did How did. this come? Are you ever going to hoist. the cone or is it strictly Billy Cook's. job? What's What's the What's the life. of the cone like in the dugout right. now? Yeah, well, the the cone the life of the. cone it's been getting used a lot. recently. So, got to keep that going. I don't know. You know, there are. probably going to be a number of people. that hoist the cone this year.

He's used it a few times. Word is, you. know, he looked like he was at Hogwarts. there. Um Nice. I don't know. the. I don't know the story on the cone, to. be honest. I do know there was a shirt. that came out in the off season that. said hoist the cone and. nobody knew what it meant so. >> [laughter]. >> we got a picture. we got a traffic cone before I think the. before the Tuesday game in Cincinnati. and. yeah what the heck does hoist the cone. mean? >> [laughter].

>> Um. there's a there's probably a you know a. player's parking spot in in Cincinnati. that was. >> [laughter]. >> that was in the cone. uh. after Manga brought it in. He probably. just you know stole it from a parking. lot somewhere but. uh we got it and uh it's made its made. its way back to Pittsburgh. And things. have been happening. You know and we all. wonder what Fanatics was thinking at the. time. We said wow just another blatant. error by Fanatics when it comes to. merch. What Fanatics was saying was just.

wait. >> Yeah. Okay this is a pre-sale right now. What you're getting at is about what. you're going to look at. You said Matt. who brought in the cone? Who who is the. one that decided that the shirt needed. to come to the dugout and the dugout now. is at a point where we're only winning. games. I see you not really giving it. much attention there. Maybe you need to. start focusing on the cone a little bit. more as it walks by you. Show your. respect. But you are saying it did start. from the t-shirt that was completely. wrong that was telling the future and. now it has captivated the boys a little. bit. I feel like that's what I saw with. the WBC. Every dugout routine becomes.

like a part of the team. Whether it's a. hand signal whenever somebody gets on. base to it all. We think the cone's. going to survive? The cone's going to. survive the year or we one rut away from. cone getting dropped back off in a. parking lot. I don't know baseball. culture well enough. How long's this. thing going to last? Forever? I I really hope so. Um you know the the. dugout stuff in in my experience it. happens organically. Uh it's not. something you force so. the the cone's here. I think it's here. to stay.

Um. we'll see. You know hopefully it it. lasts all the way into October you know. deep way into the into the season. All. right why don't you have cleats on the. ground in there for us? Keep us updated. on how that cone's going to do. But I. think when you're hoisting it as high as. you guys are, we're going to be seeing. that thing. And the welder's mask right. next to it. >> Sweet. >> I mean, we're talking grit, we're. talking blue collar, we're talking why. not get a win? We're talking youngest. player in long time, maybe ever, to be. playing baseball at that level. Go. ahead, Ty. >> Yeah, Paul, this is nothing new for the. Pirates. It's kind of what they do, you. know, not great, get a really good guy,

draft him, he plays young, and then, you. know, 5-6 years down the road, he ends. up getting traded to the Yankees or, you. know, SOMETHING LIKE THAT. >> HAPPENING WITH PAUL. THAT WOULD BE NEW. BUCKOS RIGHT NOW. >> WHICH IS WHY I was going to say, >> [laughter]. >> Connor Griffin is getting called up. Uh, he's making his debut on Friday. You guys, I mean, obviously cut from. similar cloth in terms of being like, "Hey, can't miss prospect. This guy is. going to be unbelievable." How much of. him have you seen? We've seen his stats.

throughout, you know, his entire minor. league, uh, ramp up to this point. It's. just ridiculous if you extrapolate it. over a full MLB season. Uh, how much of. him have you seen and how excited are. you to, uh, watch him make his debut on. Friday? Yeah, I'm fired up. Um, you know, if if. Bucko fans. needed anything else to get excited. about for the home opener that, you. know, they got it. So, um, it's it's great. You know, he's a. super mature. You he's 19 right now. You. would never know it talking to him. Uh,

the most most mature 19-year-old you're. ever going to meet in your life and. um, the play speaks for itself, but, uh, you know, the way he conducts himself in. the in the locker room and off the. field, it's it's cool to see. So, uh, he's going to bring bring an energy. and and, uh, you know, obviously a skill. set to Pittsburgh that, you know, that's exciting. From. Mississippi, too, right? WBC. >> From Mississippi. Yeah. Yeah, him and. him and Megam actually went to the same. high school, I believe. Oh, so he's got some cone ties.

Okay, I'm pretty excited he's going to. be up there pretty comfortable. What is, um, life for a 19-year-old going to be. like in MLB? Guys are traveling a lot, obviously, right? And then he got uh a. lot of light like he's just built for it. because he's played baseball his whole. life. Like how do you kind of get used. to being a rockstar? And by rockstar, I. mean. I mean, yeah, very popular, very famous, but also on road a lot. Like that's. something that we just assume he's good. at. Is that something that we just. assumed you were good at, too? It's tough. Uh I mean, it's it's.

you know, I'm I'm sure you guys know the. life just being on the road and. traveling to different places and um you. know, competing, going to unfamiliar. places and staying in weird hotels and. new stadiums and that kind of thing. It's something like it's it's going to. be an adjustment for him. Um he's done it in the minor leagues and. it's probably harder in the minor. leagues uh taking bus trips rather than. flying and and you know, you have better. hotels in the big leagues, but he he's.

going to be fine. Uh it's just some, you. know, adjustments that you have to make. You'll you'll learn, you know, sleeping, eating, just little stuff like. that that. people probably don't think about um. that you know, you you learn a lot about. pretty quickly once you get called up. Yeah, I wouldn't be able to do what you. got. I I don't think I'd be able to just. the discipline, food. Food discipline, on road, very tired. Obviously, team is supplying a lot, but. just that one aspect of your life where.

you where you don't really know what the. right move is or have something that you. can just definitely go and get. Pillows, all God. Hotel pillows, especially for. your big ass head. Look at that Look at. that lug head this guy's got. I couldn't. even imagine. You got to put You putting. towels underneath the pillows? I I travel with with pillows. Smart. I'll ask you to. >> Yeah, there it is. That's the probably a. baseball thing, I assume, huh? A lot of. baseball guys travel with pillows? I think a lot of guys do it, yeah. That's a good move, yeah. Cuz our.

biggest complaint is always Yeah, the. beds are fine. Beds are fine. These. pillows Yeah, the big whatever. You. know, you're going to be laying on. something. Pillow is always bad. I like. the baseball's got a traveling pillow. brigade. Do you move? You guys just. walking in with those things flopping. out of here. I I I like everything about. that. Shout out to you by the way. Love what. you've done since the beginning of your. career with the Gary Sinise Foundation. Obviously, we have matched alongside you. this year. We're shooting for 150,000. Can you tell a little bit more about. this and why you've remained committed.

to giving back to great United States. Americans? Yeah, it's it's the Gary Sinise. Foundation. You know, this is my third year with. them. They're They do great work. Veterans and first responders, just supporting them in any way they. can. I've got, you know, they've they've. let me ride in a in a fire truck now, which is pretty cool. And you know, I got to honk the horn and. all that, WHICH IS. >> WOW. PRETTY COOL. They do.

a week at at Disney World every year for. first veterans and first responders. One. week each. So, one week for veterans, one week for. first responders. And it's their. families. It's pretty heavy. I went went. down there for a couple days in the off. season and. it's a lot of women and children, if you. know what I mean. There's not not. [snorts] very many. not very many men there that are in in. a lot of.

single moms, single dads. It's it's. pretty heavy. Just with fallen veterans, fallen first responders. And they just. do a week of of healing for them. at Disney World. among other things. But they just do a lot of good work and. it's you know, it's an honor to to. partner with them again. Yeah, being a. tag team partner for Gold Star families. is certainly a beautiful thing. Happy to. hear that the Gary Sinise Foundation is. continuing to help out the families of. those who serve our great country both.

here locally and abroad. Shout out to. everybody. We've matched with you last. year. You're You're going per strikeout, right? Are we doing that again? Yes, sir. Okay, what are we doing? What are Remind. me. Remind me what we're doing. Remind. me what we're doing. We've We've matched. first 2 years, but remind me what we're. doing. Whenever you get Ponce. >> [laughter]. >> When you get a Ponce, okay, what what. are we doing? We're We're donating per. strikeout how much? 100 dollars. How about you and me this year we go. 500? I like it. Let's do it. All right. Shake. Shake. Shake. Shake. Shake.

Shake. Shake. Tickle it. It's not so big. Never want to do that in real life cuz. that's so. Yeah. Speaking of. Speaking of All right. On that note, last question for you here comes from. Connor. Yeah, Skene, on your two starts. into the ABS era in the MLB, it feels as. though it has been a huge success. Do. you have a conversation with your. catcher about it? We saw the splits. Catchers are the most successful when it. comes to challenges. Pitchers, okay. Batters, okay. How has that been so far,

would you say? And do you think it is. something that is going to, you know, in. general help the game a lot? Yeah, I think it's definitely going to. help the game. I I don't I think in my. two starts, I don't think I've had. anyone challenge. I haven't So, I'm not I'm never going to. challenge. There's. cuz. you know, as a pitcher, you think. everything's a strike. You get emotional. and and uh. you know, when you when you get. emotional, that that doesn't help you, so. um. I'll let I'll let my catchers.

challenge for me. I don't think there. have been any hitters that have. challenged against me, but. um it's great. You know, it's it's uh. you know, it's it's being accurate. It's. uh Is it a strike or is it a ball? And. now now there's an answer for that and. um. so it's it's cool. It's been It's been. fun to watch. It's, you know, it's. definitely affected the games. Your previous catcher, we all know, and. we asked you this question like the last. time you were on the show or maybe two.

times ago when you were on the show. And you said, "I hope ABS never gets in. majors." That's what you said. And I And. you you talked about the respect you had. for umpires and the respect for catchers. in framing and how like that's the part. of baseball is a little thing. It felt. inevitable that this was going to come. Have you changed your stance? Are you. okay with it now, especially with what. you've seen happen? Because there's been. some magical moments of catchers just. dunking. on umpires right in front of THEIR FACE. AND "HEY!" And then another ball.

I don't think so, brother. Hey! Three. straight. And now we're talking about. some of these umps are getting caught up. for everything. I mean, not even looking. at the bases. It feels like potentially. much better for the sport cuz it does. add an extra element of electricity, but. also potentially exposing not great. officiating at the same time. I know all. those things are potentially why you. weren't for it a couple years back. What. are your thoughts now knowing that it is. just a reality of baseball for the rest. of your career, which is going to go for. a long time?

Yeah, when we talked when I was in Indy, the the experience that I had, you know, I was a lot closer to college. back then and and high school back then. that I was to the big leagues like just. cuz I had never experienced. the big leagues. And. so, you know, selfishly at the time, it. was like, "Well, there were a lot more balls that. get called strikes than strikes that get. called balls." Um. And so, now I I want to say last year I. had more.

pitches in the zone got get called balls. against me. than. pitches that were balls that got called. strikes. So, now I'm all for it. >> [laughter]. >> SO, SO THAT'S WHAT YOU KNOW, THAT'S. THAT'S MY STANCE ON IT. I'M I'M all for. it. It's it's great. I'll tell you what, the data has certainly opened my eyes. That he would have maybe I am a little. bit better than those umpires, you know? Maybe the umps aren't better than me at. this entire thing. That is. it's it's provided incredible. excitement. I mean, it won a game last.

night. It won a game last night for. Baltimore. I mean, it it was a walk-off. ABS. Balt. Catcher says, "I don't think so, Jack.". That was That was where we were aiming, fella, is what he says to the ump. The. ump goes, "We're going to take a look at. this thing. Let's go ahead and all four. of 20,000 of us, let's look at this in. real time. WAS I RIGHT? I WASN'T, DAMN. IT. GAME OVER. STRIKE THREE." LIKE IT IS. a it is an added element of excitement. Can't take too long, either. I like how. efficient it is cuz if it took too long, then people complain about baseball.

games being long. I think it's great. And if it's going to continue to make. you a better pitcher, brother, let's go it's. let's run that up. We appreciate you for. joining us. Good luck the rest of the. way. Appreciate it. Always good to talk. All. right, we're going to come see you on. road somewhere. Hell yeah. I'm going to. come see you on road somewhere. I'm. going to see him in Chicago next week. Oh yeah, against Cubbies. Yeah, are you going to You ever think. about doing that, maybe? With the pitch. clock. Start real early, so guy has to lock in. Hold that thing.

10 seconds. Balance point. Is that what this is. called? Bang. Hit the balance point. Hold it and then he doesn't know when. you're coming. And then once he looks. like he's lost interest, boom. Now we're. doing it. You know, like they do it in. penalty kicks and like breakaways. Have. you thought about this and is it. allowed? Uh it is allowed. I don't think. anybody's done it for 10 seconds. That. seems like a really long time. Um. I'll think about it. I can't guarantee. that I'm going to do it, but I'll I'll.

I'll give it some thought. Well, don't. just drop it in a game. Obviously, work. on the off season. Come in next Nobody's. done 10 seconds, you said? Which makes. me part of war, Shinju, rest in peace. Nobody's ever done it before. You just. sit there. Imagine the reaction from the. crowd, too. Oh. When's he going to go? When's he going. to go? You know, AND THEN WAIT A MINUTE. SOMETHING ABOUT JUST TRYING TO GET. BETTER. THAT'S ALL WE'RE TRYING TO DO, ladies and gentlemen. Cy Young winner, Garrison Neist Foundation donor, and a. man who's going to save the Pittsburgh. Pirates and city of Pittsburgh, Paul. Skenes. THANK YOU, BUDDY.

I DON'T THINK HE'S GOING TO DO IT. HE. MIGHT. I DON'T think he's going to do. it. He might. Speaking of from MLB and. obviously giving back to great. Americans, and let's talk about the NBA. on its incredible run. Ladies and. gentlemen, joining us now, 13-year NBA. vet, a member of the Knuckleheads podcast, friend of the program, Quentin. Richardson. Hey, Q Rich. >> Rich, what do you think? Do you think. Paul SHOULD MAYBE TRY THAT? >> [laughter]. >> I'VE NEVER SEEN THAT, but you might be. on to something. I don't know. I see, I. didn't know if it's. if it's legal. Oh, yeah. I mean, imagine.

if you're a knuckleballer and you do. that. So, your body's knuckling while you kind. of go in there. Let's talk basketball. >> legal? Is that illegal? >> Is that. illegal? Luka. Immediately, let's talk Lakers. Everybody's going to love this. Me, national doofus, doesn't pay attention. to the NBA, especially cuz the Pacers go. from game seven of the finals to the. lottery. Is Tyrese Haliburton the most. valuable player this year? Something to think about. Now, let's go. to the Los Angeles Lakers. Luka, he's. lost 38 lbs I'm being told, and he is.

playing his best basketball. Is he going. to be able to lead the Lakers to a. title? Like, what's the reality of that. particular situation? I know Wemby and. SGA are certainly battling for the MVP, and OKC and San Antonio are outrageous, I understand that. But, is the LA hype. real at this point, and is it only real. because we're talking about how terrible. of a trade it was for the Mavericks? Like, how should we actually judge this. Lakers team? It should have been in. comparison to what the Mavericks became. after trading them, or in reality of. this year in the NBA?

No, I would I mean, in the reality of. the NBA. I would I mean, right at this. point, you know, everybody's kind of. concluded that the Lakers won that trade. that Luka should have never been traded. This is just his first full season, you. know, as a Laker getting a full. offseason coming into training camp, knowing this is his new home. I think I. think the Lakers absolutely have a. chance to win a championship with Luka. after him. I mean, it doesn't have to. mean it's going to be this year, but I. think yeah, they got time to work and I. mean, he's showing that he's got he's. got way more in the tank than I guess. Dallas or anybody thought thought he.

did. But I mean, this is a this is a. superstar we watching and he's Yeah, he's smack in the middle of his prime. and he he's giving everybody buckets. right now. JJ Redick becomes the second. Lakers coach I think to win back-to-back. 50-game seasons, him and Phil Jackson. >> Shout out JJ. Shout out J-Red, you know. what I'm saying? It's my former. teammate. Shout out, shout out J-Red. That's big time. >> Hey, that is big time, especially. because he was just a podcaster who was. getting interviewed with LeBron James. That's why he got the job. Other people. should have gotten the job. We He is now. a certified good NBA coach. Are we.

allowed to say that? Is that what people. would describe JJ Redick as? What else can you call him? His record. says so. I mean, the numbers are the. numbers. They don't lie. I think I think. he's doing a hell of a job considering. all of the circumstances and the and the. huge change in the middle of everything, getting Luka and acquiring him. And I. think he's been him and the whole. coaching staff, they've been amazing at. at trying to, you know, flip things and. flop things around to get this team in. position to be their best. And I mean, right now they're sitting at number. three and like you said, this is second. back-to-back 50 50-win season. I mean,

that's that's a good coach in my book. >> Yeah, I would say and I'm happy for him. Former player, former media member, having success in LA, doing his thing. And also, he was catching a lot of heat. early and he has not changed the way he. talks to anybody. So, I respect and. appreciate that. Good luck to the. Lakers. Let's move to. Sorry, NBA championship conversation. Go. ahead, Con Man. >> Yeah, you were speaking of great. coaches, Joe Mazzulla is the all-time. leader in win percentage, no big deal. It feels as though the Boston Celtics. are once again back. Jason Tatum triple. double, Jaylen Brown 43 points.

Can you just explain to me, first of. all, how someone can even do that in. Tatum and how impressive that is from a. basketball standpoint? And then the. other part of the question, uh how is it. not automatically going to be Celtics. versus Spurs in the NBA Finals? Uh so so what Tatum is doing from a from. basketball player standpoint is is. incredible in my eyes. To be back this. this quick uh from that type of injury. and then to be back in this type of a. form as quick as he's gotten into this.

like being able to put up these numbers. and play these minutes and look this. good doing it. I I expected him like. yeah, when he said he was coming back, I. expected him to be back and you know, kind of working his way back into. getting to to somewhat of a full. strength, but he's he he came back. already far ahead of what I thought he. could have been and he's far exceeded. what I what I thought he could be doing. I mean, the numbers, the rebounds and. assists are crazy right now. Like, you. know what I'm saying? Like, he's coming. and he's getting double-double after. double-double. He's seeing double teams.

He's passing the ball well and and all. the talk about him and JB, they should. please silence that yet again. They said. it all the way up until they won the. championship, then they wanted to re-. rekindle that situation with this and. they shown that they play together, you. know, basically Tatum's whole career and. JB only played one year without him. I. mean, you know, last night he still went. and got 43 while JT put up all of those. crazy numbers. So, I mean, that that. shouldn't even be a conversation about. whether they could play together and. whose team it is. They're both. superstars and they're both our our.

leaders of the team and that's just what. it is. Double-double against a double. team. Jaylen Brown, Jason Tatum, they're a. double trouble team. They seem to be a. real problem up there. >> Yes, And the fact that they're able to. win as much as they were without Tatum, okay? Cuz we're watching without Tyrese. here. in Indiana. Actually, we're not. I haven't really. seen much. Yeah, I know. Nobody's. watching. I've not let I've seen for. what Easy Easy Easy. I've not I've not. let my eyes see it. I've not let my eyes. see it. Cuz last Pacers experience was. the best. You kidding me? Game winners.

in the finals? We're having so much fun. I mean, Tyrese. Game six? How about. Think about the Madison Square Garden. Remember? That wasn't even game winner. It was going to overtime. That thing. shot up to the clouds. Jim Merser caught. that thing and just Yeah. slammed. Madison Square Garden, did the whole. Reggie Miller haha thing. I mean, we had. a time. Yeah. Now we're in a lottery. Now we're in a lottery. The fact that the Celtics have been able. to continue to be great without Tatum. that entire time goes to your exact. point about them not even, you know,

hey, this is just an incredible duo that. is unbelievable at basketball. And Joe. Mazzulla might be an actual psycho when. it comes to the entire sport. >> Oh, yeah. Yeah, he was playing uh war. noises, I believe, in during training. camp to get the boys ready. That's what. Luka Garza said, like, oh, okay, it's. different up here. >> and gunfire. Well, the coaches versus. media game. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. >> it used to be just like a fun haha, let's have a good time. They were 89. nothing or They beat him Beat him by. 100. 89 to two or something like that. It's like they're just a different He's. so young, too. I mean, he's so young in. the game. Took over a great spot. Good.

for the Celtics and obviously the Spurs, as well. Speaking of the Spurs, Tone has. a question for you, Q Rich. >> Yeah, I do, Q Rich. The Spurs and SGA. and OKC, one and two seed, very, very. fascinating in the West right now. I. believe the Spurs are four and one. against OKC on the season. What are your. thoughts on that matchup in the West. going into the playoffs? And then also. the potential MVP between Wemby and SGA. Uh right now, right now I have I have. SGA as my MVP. I think I think. everything that Wemby is doing is is is.

definitely unbelievable. And I And think. about this year, I feel like. you got five four five guys that could. be MVP in any other year. Like, Joker. hasn't gotten a lot of talk, but he's. still averaging a triple double. He's He. just became official. He's going to. average a triple double for the season. And he's leading the league in rebounds. and assists. That's crazy. What Wemby is. doing is crazy. What Luka is doing is. crazy. If KD doesn't get hurt, he would. be in the conversation. What Jaylen. Brown has been able to do has been. crazy. He would be in the conversation. So, it's like it it's it's it's one of.

those crazy years. But, for me, I think. what SGA has been able to do, putting. together his fourth straight year. averaging over 30, you know what I'm. saying, joining the class with MJ, breaking Wilt's record. The last time he. ain't scored 20 points was December of. 2024. I think he he's showing that he. he's a dominant force. Not that these. other guys aren't, but you have to. couple that with the winning aspect. He. has the best team in the NBA, coming off. a championship, and they ain't letting. off the gas. So, I still think it's his. MVP and it's his time right now.

>> You're the man, Q-Rich. Thank you for. taking time with us. We can't wait to. continue to chat with you. And is SGA. going to do it again? Ooh. Nope. >> Scott never misses. But, Wembanyama. he's everywhere. You're the best. Thanks. for joining us, Q-Rich. Wembanyama was asked to give three. bullet points on why he should be MVP. His first one was defense, right? Is. half the game. >> [laughter]. >> Just I think I'm pretty good at that. >> He's a search. He's everywhere. Hour two on the other side. We got Mike. Greenberg, Bret Michaels. Be a friend, tell a friend, save a life, might change.

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days. It isn't happening. The Crown. basketball tournament is doing it for. us. [clears throat] is. Yeah. Yeah, it. matters. You only got a couple. opportunities to win the crown and the. crown. was certainly within reach for two teams. that played last night. Oklahoma beats Colorado, Baylor beats. Minnesota. Now tonight we find out if. Stanford or the West Virginia. Mountaineers will go on to take on the.

Toronto Blue Jays. I feel like they're. probably going to beat Rutgers. I I. think I did at one point pick all four. of the teams on the left side of the. bracket to win each game. So I I don't. think I had it I don't think I had a. certain pick but at one point I knew. Oklahoma was going to win and Baylor was. going to win. And then on the right side. West Virginia's about to get it done and. the Blue Jays going to get it done. So. that's happening tonight meaningful. stuff. We got final four this weekend. We got golf that's only going to. continue to get stronger. We got NFL. news that's only going to continue to. cook. This morning Kirk Cousins was.

signed to the Las Vegas Raiders. He is a. man who's going to be taught, I'm sorry, brought in to teach Fernando Mendoza how. to be an NFL quarterback. The things to. do on the field, off the field, in the. meetings, in the locker rooms, whenever. you're taking the boys out. Now we think. Kirk and Fernando will be a good. good duo. Good tag team in there. We think him and. Kurt Signetti have a similar, you know, we're all kind of in the same football. nerd atmosphere it feels like. So we're. pumped for them, we're pumped for the.

Raiders and Kirk Cousins once again gets. another guaranteed contract in the form. of about $20 million. 8.7 million coming. from the Falcons, 1.3 coming from the. Raiders this year and then a $10 million. roster bonus three days into the 2027. season but nobody's expecting him to. actually play for that team. They'll. just have to pay him that amount of. money at that particular time. So the. Raiders basically kick a $10 million. roster. spot to next year. They'll throw it in. the trash cuz the salary cap probably.

only going to go up and to the right. They're paying him league min. He's. going to mentor Fernando. Feels like a. smart move for the Raiders if Kirk. Cousins can play football good. There. were some times last year where we saw. him play football, he was not good. There were some times we seen him last. year play football, he was good. You. take him back to the times in which he. was in the Vikings offense with Kubiak. as his coordinator, he was very good. So, we assume he'll have success. We. assume he'll be good Kirk Cousins and we. assume this will be great for Fernando. and the Raiders going forward. Now, when.

Kubiak coached Kirk Cousins, Hambone. says good things happen. Good things. happen. You know what else happened? He. got like a $130 million guaranteed from. the Falcons. He moves on from there, he's with the Raiders. Toxic table's. here at Boston Connor, at Ty Schmidt. You gave me a side eye after I said the. NFL is always delivering, especially. with news Kirk Cousins being the last. thing we need to talk about. >> about the NFL, it's just you listed off. a bunch of sports that are going on and. you seemingly left out one very, very. particular one that everyone's pretty. freaking hyped up about. >> So, I watched this one last night that.

you're talking about, I do believe. >> think so. >> This guy is dropping straws through uh. it was in the middle of like a an arena. and there was a circle a circle that had. a bunch of sensors on it and then he had. to lift the straw to different height. and he was competing against others to. see who could get to the highest and. drop the straw. >> that. >> through the circle. It was intense. >> Did he do it? >> And I'll tell you the one that I saw was. the winner. Uh he dropped it from about. yay high, I would say. >> That was on ABC, I thought. >> a wind, too, like that old trash game on.

your phone that used to happen. That's. what you're talking about cuz that would. be a sport. How about the one where. there's like a big tire in the middle? Yeah. And then there's two dudes. wrestling. I love that one. >> Sure. With Mr. Jack? >> Not a tug-of-war. Mr. Jack did used to. do that in elementary school. Shout out. to Holiday Park, they tore that place. down. That was a shame that they did. that. That was our elementary school. Now, these two guys are wrestling and. then one of them is trying to get the. other one into the into the tire. Okay. that what you're talking about? >> I don't know. >> Are you Are you talking about the real. American freestyle wrestler wrestling.

where Oh, yeah. Cale is doing interviews, guys cutting. promos, and Tristan Worth NFL lineman. hops up on the stage says, "I'll wrestle. this guy." Sure. And then all of a. sudden the Buccaneers people are like, "Is this Is this a What Are we watching. WWE? What What's going on What's going. on here?" Cuz that's actually some good. >> Oh, yeah. I like that amateur wrestlers. are now potentially getting a. professional platform cuz there wasn't. really anywhere to go. Kurt Angle, a lot. of amateur wrestling people got mad at. Kurt Angle for getting into professional. wrestling, but it was like, "What else. am I.

What do you want me to do? MMA? I guess. at the time it was a little bit. smaller." He would go on to become one. of the greatest WWE people of all time, but I remember amateur wrestling people. being mad at him. If they could take. amateur wrestling and make it a. professional league, that would be dope. Especially as somebody who's from. Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania where, you. know, we got a lot of wrestlers around. us at Lock Jaw Firer. Is that what you're talking about? No, that's not what I'm talking about, but I. know eight guys who would be top of the. table in every single one of those. sports you just mentioned, especially. wrestling, cuz of how strong their hands. and forearms are.

What are you talking about? I'm talking. about the freaking Premier League. The. The Premiers Soccer's not happening. >> The Premiers of Premier Leagues. >> Darts. Darts. Okay. We're not doing it. LOOK AT THOSE MATCHUPS. LOOK AT THOSE. MATCHUPS. Look at those matchups. We basically have four Super Bowls. kicking off at 2:00 and yeah, sure, you. might look at the headshots and say, "There's no way that guy can jog a mile. There's no way that guy's last meal. wasn't under 4,000 calories." Guess.

what, man? That's what darts is all. about. Okay? So, yeah, you can judge. them by how they look, but why don't you. judge them by how they throw? >> I'm judging them BY HOW THEY ACT, NOT by. how they look. >> Exactly. Okay? >> Exactly. Uh-huh. That's how they act. That's how they act. A lot of this. [laughter] A lot of this. A LOT OF. FISSION. >> [screaming]. >> A LOT OF THAT. OKAY. THEY do that a lot. of my Some of them do have moxie, okay? >> Yeah. 180s, fish on. Finishing on a ball. Do you. know what that's all about? It feels.

like you don't respect exactly what it. is all about. >> all about I want I want these darters to. deliver for the adult culture that you. are describing there. But I'm worried. that these darters are only think about. darting when they're darting. We need. them to start focusing on darting when. they're not darting. I CAN'T BE HAVING GUYS PULLING THEIR. triceps after one 180. It looks like they're potentially going. to have a heart attack with over. kind of stimulation whenever something. start happening. THEY START.

THEY LOOK REDDER THAN ME. THESE GUYS ARE. REDDER THAN ME SOMEHOW. And then I'm. supposed to think that they have enough. oxygen in their brain to go stand up, have enough balance, and deliver me a. triple 20, triple 20, triple 20. I just. want one of them to focus on it. I just. would like one of them to say. You can't be a pro athlete and have. gout. It just doesn't work that way. THE. GOUT IS THE WHAT the king of THE THAT'S. RIGHT. >> [laughter]. >> SO THE KING So sorry we got eight kings. up there. Who's the last Who's the last. player? Who's last NFL player? Who's.

last NBA player? Who's last MLB player. to play through gout? I don't know. I. don't think there ever has been one. It's crazy to think oh Foxy agrees with. you. JOINING US. FOXY. OKAY. >> NOW. JOINING US NOW IS A MAN who. probably has good opinion on this. >> I would I would assume so. Listen, I. watch for the entertainment. I don't. know how they're playing all that music. Okay, I I don't know how that's working. I do appreciate their energy. >> respect the game so much. Johnny B. Goode actually wrote in his will Chuck. Berry. He. >> [laughter]. >> said look the only song.

this song is available for is Johnny. Clayton. And not to mention C's favorite. athlete Stephen freaking Bunting, the. bullet. I just want these guys to just. see us. I want these guys to focus on. what they're doing especially if I'm. back from across the pond on them. All. they are is focused, man. So they're so. focused. THEY'RE SUCKING DOWN MCCHICKENS. AND MCDOUBLES LIKE THERE'S no tomorrow. cuz they're so focused. >> know if they have it over there. I know. D-Bone does. Joining us now, ladies and. gentlemen, is a man who might have an. opinion on this. I assume he's been to. an event. He's been covering sports uh. for society, basically, for 30 years.

now. Zero-time. Emmy Award winner, host of Get Up, who. celebrated 8 years today. Ladies and. gentlemen, Mike Greenberg. HEY, GREENIE. HOW YOU DOING, GREENIE? I'M DOING GREAT. IT IS A pleasure to be. back on, but no one is happier about it, as you know, than my wife, Stacy. I. think I mentioned this to you when I ran. into you in Phoenix the other day. She. just said to me, like, 2 weeks ago, she. said to me, "How come you haven't been. on McAfee's show in a while?" And I.

said, "I don't know. Maybe he's mad at. me about something." And she gives me a. look, and she goes, "What did you do?". >> [laughter]. >> So, I'm telling you right now, no. questions asked, she was on your side. >> Okay. Okay, Greenie. We like to hear. that. Shout-out Miss Stacy. We we. certainly appreciate the hell out of. that. And we were never mad at you, Greenie. Never could be. Around you, there were some questions, but we just. decided to stay away as opposed to dive. in. We should have done more of that. We. know you're very busy, and we're. appreciative of your time. Getting a. chance to catch up with him at the.

league meetings coming out of a workout. Let me tell you, Greenie in like uh kind. of kind of gym leisure. >> Yeah. Jacked. >> He's got it. >> right now. Greenie, you're in great. shape right now. And I'll say this, also, I don't I don't want to get, you. know, too complimentary here this quick. cuz uh we're only a couple minutes into. this thing. Skin was glowing. Hair was. strong. I mean, hair was. very strong in there. Covering sports 30. years, good beard. >> Yeah. Fastball was reaching triple. digits. Let's just say that. >> And we were picking things apart. Oh, no, let's not do that. Reasonable takes.

on everything. And then also some. questions. It was It was a great time. the other day. Thank you for spending it. with us. We genuinely appreciate you. every time. Well, it's always It's to see you guys. It had been much too long. We caught up. on a variety of things. I think I told. you about the way the encounter began, um which is that after I finished. working out, there was this one little. bathroom off to the side of the gym, and. I was going to go in there just to wash. my hands cuz I was going down to have. breakfast. But it was occupied, so I'm. waiting outside and I hear from inside a. toilet flush, and the door opens and.

it's Connor. And so we we greet each other amiably. and and I he he says, "I'm going to go. down there. Our meeting is over there.". I said, "All right, I'll be there in a. little while." And then I thought about. it and I said, "I'm not going in there. I'm. >> [laughter]. >> not I'm not going to go in and wash my. hands in there." There seemed very. little chance that I was going to emerge. from that room cleaner than I was when I. went in. So, I went and found a. different bathroom. So, that was the. beginning of our encounter on Tuesday. Hello morning dump. Yeah, little did you know I smeared poop. on your back,

>> [laughter]. >> That's on you. There's a chance that. that was on your seat in the room as. well. We appreciate the fact that you. trusted the room more than Connor's. bathroom. On that note, a wonderful. image walking out of a bathroom that. early in the morning being Connor. And. then Connor with a quick boom right to. you. And then moving. Wonderful way to start. the day. Obviously, we're celebrating the NFL out. there, and that's what the league. meetings are as a whole, kind of what. the future looks like. How do you feel. about this Kirk Cousins thing with. the Raiders? I think the deal, I don't.

know if you've seen the way the deal has. been put together, genius here. This is. a genius deal by the Raiders. They're. playing paying league minimum, and then. next year they owe a $10 million. bonus, but they'll just kick that off. the side. And then obviously, the 8.7. coming from the Falcons on the offset. language feels like a smart deal from. the Raiders. I like it. How do you feel. about it, Greeny, out there? I feel. great about it, and I I just learned. about that. about the particulars of the deal as I. was waiting to come on when you were. talking about it, and I completely agree. with you that this is it it's a when you.

look at the way the deal is structured, there's no losing scenario. It's is. deal for the Raiders. And most. importantly, I have a philosophy that. far more young quarterbacks in the NFL. are ruined than are developed. And the. Raiders are a team that has gotten. almost everything wrong, it feels like, for such a long time. And now, just in. this little moment here, it feels like. they've become the team that gets. everything right. I loved everything. that they did during this offseason, particularly signing Tyler Lindebaum. I.

love the way they're making aggressive. moves to put something together around. their young quarterback. The hiring of. Clint Kubiak is an absolutely. outstanding one. He's one of those guys. in that line of offensive-minded coaches. who are going to be are going to give. you as good a chance as you can have of. developing a quarterback. I liked that. they were trading Max Crosby, obviously. the way that turned out, I don't blame. on them. But to continue to put more and more. pieces around him. And then most. significantly, I love now that they're. not forcing him to be the guy, not just. starting week one, but starting like.

July 15th or whatever day they all show. up at training camp. You don't want to. have everything be on his shoulders, no. matter how pro ready he is. And I think. Mendoza is as pro ready as you can be. for a rookie quarterback. I have always. believed that getting a veteran in there. to mentor him is an outstanding move. Cousins is a perfect one. The. combination of Cousins and Tom Brady. being in the organization, I don't know. how much better Fernando Mendoza could. have it than he has it right now. >> Yeah, and on that note about Kirk.

Cousins, his personality feels like one. that is going to gel well with Fernando, and Fernando is going to gel well with. Kirk Cousins. And Fernando is not a guy. who will feel like threatened by this, and I don't think Kirk will either. Kirk's been in this situation before. It's from the human side, let alone just. on the field side of him being. comfortable with the offense and being. able to tell Fernando what he needs to. be looking for in the offense in which. the head coach is going to have for the. entirety of his career. The human aspect. really works, too, I think, which I. think is a huge. >> Absolutely. Schefty made a great point. about this this morning when the story.

broke. It happened while we were on, and. I hadn't thought of it this way. Kirk. Cousins did not choose to go to Atlanta. with Michael Penix there. Kirk Cousins. went to Atlanta believing he was going. to be the starting quarterback, no. questions asked, and then they blindside. him by taking Penix, and he winds up in. a role where he's part starter, part. mentor, and because he is such a. consummate pro, and I think, from what. everyone says, such a good guy, he. probably handled it as well as that. situation can be handled. He's coming to. this situation with his eyes wide open.

Everyone knows this eventually becomes. Fernando Mendoza's team, and Kirk. Cousins, I I have to believe would have. had other opportunities in other places. So, he's choosing this willingly. He. understands that part of his job, maybe. the most important part of his job, is. to help Fernando Mendoza get ready. So, he's doing that of his own accord, which. means, I think by definition, he's. comfortable with it. >> Fernando will be visiting the Raiders. next Tuesday. Schefty just broke while. Greeny was giving that answer. Schefty's. on top of him, man. Isn't he? Always.

>> Tough to have convos with in real life. Yeah, what about music? >> All the convo Yeah, he he thought Andre. 3000 was a part of the. the Black Eyed Peas, which was certainly. Which Oh, and now I'm not asking Greg. >> [laughter]. >> That's closer than I would have thought. Schefty would get. Andre 3000 is from Outkast, and and and. that is that is infinitely closer than I. would have guessed Schefty would be. He. went 4000. He did go 4000. Yeah. He he. went 4000. And we didn't expect him to. go 4000, but then he said, "That's Andre.

3000 there?" I was like, "All right, okay, let's go ahead and dive in. [laughter] a little bit, Schefty." He's. a weapon, dude. He is a Okay, let's talk. about him being a weapon and kind of. just like a massive piece of the NF. NFL's universe, okay? The news breakers. are a massive piece of the NFL universe. Obviously, it's a job that pays very. well, but it also provides a lot of. conversation to grow the league as a. whole. I think the NFL is great at that. I'd assume you think the same exact. thing. Now, Brazil just got announced. for another game. Germany's getting uh. uh annual games. England's getting.

annual games. Australia is getting. Rams-Niners. That That's a huge game. that is happening down there. And then. coming out of league meetings, I guess a. big initiative was like international, international, international. What are. your thoughts on the growth of the NFL. over the last 30 years? Cuz it does feel. like they're maybe nowhere near their. peak of just printing money. Seems like. it's only going to keep going, Greeny. Do you agree or no? Yes, for sure. I I Bob Kraft said it the. other day, and this is what's going to. happen. ultimately, and I don't know exactly how.

soon, every team will play 18 games, and. every team will play one international. game every season. So, there won't be. any advantage or disadvantage, and you. just do the math, and if there are 32. teams, that means there will be 16. international games per season, and they. will move them all over the place. The. NFL has been printing money. They're. essentially an ATM, and they are almost. exclusively a domestic product. If you. think about the other sports that we. consider to be our sports, I mean, baseball is enormous in Japan, and has.

grown in other places, but it is. ridiculously popular in Japan. The. Basketball, and in part because of the. Dream Team and other things, basketball. is a massive international sport. It's. enormous through Europe. It's enormous. through Asia. It's enormous through the. entire continent of Africa. Most of. these sports have Hockey has enormous. enormous following in Eastern Europe and. other places like that. Pro football is. basically popular in this country, and. maybe a little bit in Canada, and. increasingly in Mexico. There are. billions of people that are not yet part.

of their. of their audience that they are going to. cultivate. So, I don't know how quickly. that will happen, but I don't think. there's any obvious reason to think the. world won't fall as in love with this. sport as we have, cuz it's just so. incredibly captivating. So, I would say. there will There will come a time when. pro football will be as popular. internationally as basketball is, let's. say. I don't know how long that will. take, probably not 5 years, but probably. not 50 either. So, something in the. neighborhood of 10 to 15 years from now,

I think the league will have grown that. much more. Now, the question becomes, will those other countries have their. own leagues? Right? I mean, the NBA, there are there are professional. basketball leagues all through Europe. and all over the place. Japanese. baseball, I've asked many people who. were over there, they say Japanese. baseball is a step above Triple-A. baseball. That's how high quality the. the the baseball is. Will there be. Hockey. Hockey, a lot of international. leagues as well, yeah. A lot of them. Absolutely. Almost all of these sports. have international leagues. So, will all.

those people just become NFL fans, or. will all of a sudden pro football spring. up in all of these other places? I don't. know the answers to those, but I think. there are What I'm trying to say is. there are tens of billions of dollars. left on the table right now globally by. pro football, and they will go get it. >> And I think that's why flag football is. so important to your last point right. there. World Baseball Classic, you just. watched what it did being a global. thing. The Olympics, whenever teams are. and sports are able to play. in that particular thing, you get a. unifying feel from all these different.

countries for said sport. I mean, the. amount of people that became hockey fans. in America because the boys and the. girls won, it's like, "Hey, you we like. that." If football could have that in 10. years from now, that would be insane, but I think flag football would be the. only way in because I think the pads and. the helmet and everything that it takes. to kind of get into flag tackle. football, it's like the flags can. actually be dropped at parks and like at. fields and like, "Hey, put these on.". And then once they start watching, and I. assume the NFL is going to do a great. job with the videos and commercials, and.

I assume the social and digital and how. to play flag football, but it's like, that's much more accessible for people I. think that don't really know the game. I. think it's let alone the women's flag. football that can still, you know, there. is so much it feels like we're just. we're We're even near what football. could be. and we are grateful for that. Oh, yeah. Yes, we are, Greeny. Yes, we. are for that. >> I got to tell you, my son and his buddy were over, so 22, 23-year-old guys, and I'm watching. college basketball, you know, it was the. first weekend of the NCAA tournament,

and they were dying to watch the flag. football. Whatever this is, 2 weeks ago. when all those guys did Logan Paul and. all the NFL guys played against the flag. football players. So, I will admit that. I would not have turned it on otherwise, but we wound up watching the whole. thing, and I will tell you, I was. endlessly entertained. I thought it was. outstanding entertainment. I thought. seeing the NFL guys trying to figure out. how to handle it. Luke Kuechly got a. penalty on literally every play cuz he. [laughter] just kept hitting people.

Brady threw the best pass of the day. Tom Brady right now would be the. starting quarterback on at least seven. teams in the NFL, and I think when he. said he was only kidding about coming. back, I don't buy that for a minute. I. think he actually is, or at least did. give some serious thought to coming. back, and why wouldn't he? He would be. better than the starting quarterback on. a lot of NFL teams. All of that said, I. was endlessly entertained by the flag. football, and I would watch it again. If. there were flag football to watch, I. would continue watching it. Yeah, I love. Tom Brady got to showcase a little bit. of the pass time. Now, his team would.

only score that one. That That That was. it. There was not a lot of other. highlights as Team USA, the actual flag. footballers, dominated the NFL guys. But. yeah, Tom Brady showcased that he still. got it. He said that the owners weren't. specifically. impressed with the idea of an owner. playing in the league as well. What side. are you on? Obviously, as we're going. into a negotiation, that's probably. going to be a part of it all. But the. flag footballers that we have for Team. USA, I think we're going to be winning. every world championship. Oh, yeah. I. don't know I don't know I don't know how. long it's going to take other countries.

to figure this one out. How about that. move? Huh? That was the one. Running. full speed He He banging banging a boom. Boom, bang. And they they couldn't You. just couldn't And then Luke Kuechly just. To hell with this. >> Screw this. To hell with this guy. And. and Jalen Ramsey, the same thing. So, I'm not 100% sure if flag football to. tackle football will be a 100%. for these international people that we. get in, but the more people in the. ecosystem, the better. And I'm excited. for the game to continue. to grow. Okay, the boys have a couple. other sports questions, if that's okay, especially in the time that we're in. right now.

>> I know you know nothing about the sport. of baseball. We're kind of the baseball. people at ESPN now, but Ty has a. question for you. Yeah, Greeny, I. actually do view you as somewhat of a. baseball historian. And uh this might be. a little bit, you know, overreactionary. because it has just happened, but. listen, the the pitch clock was huge. cutting games down, so we're not. spending 3 and 1/2 to 4 hours, you know, when you're watching every single game. like I am, but do you think it's. possible that ABS is the the best. development in the history of baseball?

I mean, early on. >> [laughter]. >> we're only six games. We're only six games in. We got games. ending on this. Like it has added just. such a a flare and an excitement to. really every game, and it doesn't matter. when it's coming, whether it's the third. inning or the ninth or whatever part it. is. Like it has just been a rousing. success so far. Yes, I agree. And I would quickly say. that the people who run Major League. Baseball are always criticized and. sometimes very much deserved to be, and. never given any credit for some of the.

progressive moves that they make against. the will of all of the traditionalists. who sit out there and never want to stop. telling you how much better the game was. in the '60s. So, they deserve a lot of. credit for incorporating the pitch. clock, again, against a lot of people's. will, and now incorporating ABS, which I. have been screaming for forever. First. and foremost, the idea that umpires'. mistakes or officiating mistakes are. just human nature and a part of the. charm of the sport has always been. ridiculous. As I wrote the in a book in.

2010, Mike and I did a book, and we said. the human element in sports sucks. It's. the reason that we have deodorant. It's. the reason we don't walk around smelling. bad all the time cuz [laughter] we can. do something about it. So, why in the. world wouldn't we use technology now. that we can overturn terrible calls? I. agree with you, the way they do the ABS, which has has shown sort of the. There's like this drama, this dramatic. build. For those of you who watch. tennis, you've seen the exact same. thing. When they show you it's it's in,

it's out, whatever it is, you build to. that moment. Yes. Is it the greatest. change or invention in the history of. the sport? I'd have to give that a. little thought. I mean, there was a time. when they lowered the mound, there was a. time when there there's the dead ball. era. There have been some pretty. significant changes in the history of. the sport. But, in recent memory, I. think the two that you mentioned, the. pitch clock and the ABS, have made it. more watchable. See, that's the thing, all other sports make changes in order. to become more watchable, and baseball. and baseball fans and baseball. traditionalists have always been.

hesitant to accept that, and that has. never made any sense to me. So, while I. don't know if I'll say it's the greatest. move they've ever made, I think it has. been a rousing success and will continue. to be. >> You go back to the NHL work stoppage, I. believe Gary Bettman changed some rules. to make it more watchable, hockey, because it was getting to it it got rid. of kind of the goon. The goon kind of. got out, but they said it made it. better. The NFL has been very very. aggressive in how do we make this a more. fan-friendly thing with the rules.

changes. MLB doing that with the pitch. clock, I loved it. I loved everything. about it. I hated the whole pat-down. hand check spider tech thing that they. have in there. Like, a Mason Miller the. other day comes out to corn. That. entrance was incredible. Pittsburgh kid, by the way, whenever you talk and yeah, Pittsburgh kid, uh he's throwing 104. He. comes out for that entire thing, it's a. big entrance. Old buddy comes out with. the horns. Edwin Diaz. >> In LA, they come out to that fan and. then. whole dramatic entrance. And then who do. they meet and think the ump giving him a. full pat-down? It's like, that can't.

Can't end of him coming out here. Like, okay, can we at least wait until he. throws a couple pitches to do that? Like, how do we make that? But, I didn't. like that dad's like, "Yeah, welcome to. the show." And it's the ump. I need your. hands. I need your hat. I need your. belt. I need your hat. I need everything you got. Like, that. that was just a weird thing to them to. do. But, it feels like that was a. massive. uh uh apologize for the pun here. sticking point for baseball as a whole. and pitchers? Is that accurate because. if they're sticking to this, it feels. like in the most ridiculous time just to.

showcase that they're doing it. They are. doing it. This is a real thing. Why is. this such a real thing and why don't. they all just use it? How they do it is one thing. That they. are doing it is the right thing. You're. trying to increase You're trying to. increase the offense in the sport. So, I'm older than any of you guys. I. remember a time when everything wasn't a. strikeout. When they didn't when they. weren't bringing in guys who were. throwing 104 in every inning. So, the. the offense as the game went on and as. the pitcher's arms wore down, it was. more exciting to watch because you would.

see base hits and you would see guys. getting on. And if you give pitchers. unfair advantages, you allow them to. violate the rule either the spirit of. the rule or in this case the actual rule. in ways that benefit It would be like. changing rules in pro football to. benefit the defense. If you'll NOTICE. >> OH, WE DON'T WANT THAT. 50 [laughter]. RULE changes in pro football in the last. 30 years, every single one of them is. intended to create more offense. You. want more things to gamble on. You want. more things for fantasy. You want more.

things that are going to bring more. people to the game and more people into. the tent. So, you can quibble with how. they're going about doing it. I won't. disagree with you there. But, that they. are doing it so that pitchers cannot. have an unfair advantage, I actually. think is the right thing to do. >> I did kind of quibble there a little bit. if I had to say so myself. But, I I. appreciate you laying out why we. wouldn't want that as a society. So, go. ahead and pat him down then. I I I. I want big You mentioned a lot of. different eras there in development. Science human science was a big area for. baseball as well. I remember that one,

we all did. We all watched that. Then. rules obviously got Everybody can't be. just take, you know. We can't be 280-lb baboons every Yeah, >> [laughter]. >> that just is not a healthy thing. That's. supposed to You can't be 5'8", sir, and. come back at 6'4". Like that is not how. this can actually go from a health. perspective, but if we're getting I. mean, it's natural. Humans see big hole. Like we will pay attention to that. I. also think the stars performing is a big. deal. This show, hey guy, can you tell. me a little bit about this? This this. dude, I think he's driven to be a. pitcher and to prove that he's an MLB.

pitcher and everything like that. I. think that's his natural mentality after. we got to talk to him a little bit. I'm. not saying other people haven't found. that out, but my feeling after talking. to him is like, oh, this guy wants to be. viewed as a pitcher. Like he would like. to be viewed as a good pitcher. So it. seems like he's going to do that this. year while also raking for the Dodgers. You as baseball historian, baseball. lover, can you try to explain this. for me to explain it a little bit a. little bit better like the bat down that. the umps did? He's the best player that ever lived. I. don't think that's I don't think that's.

an exaggeration at this point. He is. someone who if he were to pitch every 5. days, would right now probably be the. betting favorite to win the Cy Young. So. if you think about it, we've seen. pitchers win the Cy Young and the MVP in. the past. Not frequently, but it. happens. Most of the time voters will. not vote for the pitcher as the MVP cuz. they'll say he has his own award. And. I've never actually agreed with that, but let's even say that is the case. Pitchers have their own award, it's the. Cy Young award, and position players.

have their own award, it's the MVP. award. He could legitimately win both. He is in arguably the best offensive. player in the game, and he is on the. short list of the best pitchers in the. game. That's never happened before. Certainly 100 years ago and beyond that, uh pitchers would also bat. And Babe. Ruth is the most famous example of a guy. who was a great hitter and a great. pitcher, but never and to this extent. and over a never over this prolonged. period of time. By the time he was. hitting more home runs than entire teams.

were in the late 1920s, he was no longer. pitching. To be as dominant a starting. pitcher as there is in the sport and the. best offensive player in the sport at. the same time has literally never. happened or if it has, it did not only. hasn't happened in this century, it. didn't happen in the previous century. So, I don't think it's an exaggeration. right now to say he is the best player. that ever lived. The goat. Okay. Yeah. Happy to see that we're part of that. And I I hope he's on cuz he's already. been on the mound for a World Baseball.

Classic championship, right? Mhm. He's. already been on the mound in the ninth. inning for that. Got the dub. It'd be. sick to see him game seven kind of. handling that thing. And then also why. not? >> Yeah, or walk-off. Why not? Why not? And. then on the flip side doing the the. other thing. He's He's special and he. seems to be so locked in especially with. everything that's happened around him, Greeny. Like that that's all just like a blip. obviously in his past and his recent. history that we have kind of learned of. this sensation, the greatest of all time. you call it. But there's been a lot of. There's been a lot of here.

And and and when you got to focus on a. tiny little baseball, I don't know how. he's been I mean that's an incredible. And then there's two streaks happening. right now that are just like outrageous. Longest on-base streak in MLB at 36. games. Oh yeah, longest score scoreless. inning pitching streak in MLB 22 and. 2/3. And what if I mean Bruce just asked. this question as he. reminded me of this graph or this tweet. from MLB. He's like, "What if this just. goes forever? What if this never ends? What if this that number goes to 180.

games? And this guy just continues. There's a chance that could happen.". >> Could. Shohei will follow along with all. of it. Okay, let's pivot away from. baseball even though we fallen in love. this year. I don't know if you witnessed. this. We've we've done the baseball this. year. I don't know how long it's going. to last, but we've been doing it. Cuz the sport is better. I mean it's. it's more exciting to watch for the. reasons that we've just outlined. It is. it is more exciting to watch a baseball. game than it was 7 or 8 years ago, and I. think it's only going to continue to go. in that direction. Yeah, I'm a. simpleton. You make you make it better,

I'll go that way. You know, I think I'm. probably a good little thermometer, you. know? How's this guy feel? He's a dumb. that you know, >> [laughter]. >> that is probably a good idea. Baseball. good right now. You know what else good? College hoops. And it's different if. you're like good at college man. Yeah, I. agree and I feel like the final four has. a lot of juice. I believe we got a Hembo. stat earlier. This is the first time. both games are under two or three point. spreads. Yeah, here it is two spread two. points rather. How do you feel about. this weekend? Arizona Michigan feels.

like a dream match up for the final four. of their near national championship. match up. And then Yukon Illinois, the. Yukon finish was incredible and Illinois. has kind of slowly dominated a lot of. teams on their road to the final four. What do you kind of expect out of. Saturday and then inevitably Monday? Illinois is really big. So, I watch a. lot of Big Ten. I went to a Big Ten. school. So, I watch the Big Ten all. year. Illinois is really big. I would I my my instinct is to say that.

I think they win that game. But after. what I saw Connecticut do on on Sunday, I you just can't bet against them. because that was one of the most. remarkable things I've ever seen. This. play, this moment that you're showing. right now, I think and now that we've. had some time we did the show on Monday. morning and we we we were almost. wall-to-wall with it. But then I had a couple of days that I. was traveling and thinking. I think it. is I think it goes with with the single. among the most dramatic moments in the. history of the sport. Like those one.

shining moment montages, all that stuff. that you see, it goes with Laettner, it. goes with. Chris Jenkins, it goes with Lorenzo. Charles. I think it's that significant. when you consider who it was against, when you consider that it was in the. Elite Eight, it's it and I think it has. to go with Wyatt in the group with the. greatest moments in the history of the. tournament and of the sport. So, I. wouldn't bet against Connecticut, but I. think I think Illinois is the better. team and I think they win. Michigan-Arizona is like I heard Charles. Barkley say that's Ali-Frazier. They've.

been overwhelmingly the two best teams. That game Michigan played on Sunday was. over in the first 10 minutes. um against Tennessee. They're. ridiculously good. Um but I think. Arizona has been better and I think I. think the single best player on the. court is Akok. So, if I had to bet on it. right now, I think I would bet that I. would bet Arizona-Illinois wind up. playing for the championship on Monday. night and I would bet Arizona. I think. they've been the best team at in the. tournament. I think there were moments. all year where they looked like the best.

team and I think in the end they are the. best team. >> Yeah, Arizona's outrageous. Obviously. have knocked off some big names in their. run in this. Clappered who. uh committed on our show to Arizona who. has football family in this entire. thing. He's been special, man. >> Yeah. He's breaking freshman records all. over the place. And then you go back to. that Yukon, the shot you're talking. about being in the uh pantheon of March. Magical Moments, March Madness Magical. Moments. He's freshman from Indiana. sends his team back to Indianapolis, which is where he's from basically right. here. I mean, there's just so many. storylines around all the different.

games. March Madness's numbers are up. immensely. I don't know if you saw that, Greeny. I did. >> 19 million for some of these games. Obviously sports are fantastic, but. these types of things are back and good. for society and uh the Elite Eight's. good, Final Four's good. These guys got. the mentality they want to win it all. Uh Pete Thamel just reported that Dan. Hurley was quoted as saying in his press. conference today, "We came here for. rings, not watches.". >> Okay. Love it. Good to know. I guess you. get watches for the Final Four.

>> I did not know that. Yeah, so he. probably asked him about the gift bag. potentially how that whole thing went. We We would like to be perfectly clear. We did not hear his actual quote. We are. just strictly. >> Pete. up the context around Pete. Thamel's quote that he has given here, but they certainly asked him about how. nice that watch was and how many watches. he's got and bar came right out of his. mouth. He's insane Is this how insane in. a good way? He loves He's passionate. He. loves He loves his team. This man is a. maniac. Is this college basketball like. since the beginning of time? Because Bob.

Knight obviously remember that. I got a. chance to watch uh coach Huggins. I. mean, he was a an intense guy. Uh coach. K obviously pretty animated over there. It feels like college hoops has a lot of. passion, a lot of pageantry, a lot of. emotion, and a lot of head coaches that. are kind of the staples of the sports. who are very charismatic, I would say, in its entirety. Is this how it's always. been, Griner, and what are your thoughts. on it? >> Yes. Well, because players have always. come and go, and the coaches are the. constants. The coaches have largely.

always been the biggest stars in. collegiate basketball in particular. Um. you know, even the greatest players in. college basketball historically would. only play three or four years, whereas. the coaches are there forever. So, when. you think back to UCLA, yes, if you know. about it, you would think of Alcindor. and and Walton, but the reality is you. think of it as John Wooden's run. You. think of Coach K and Duke. You think of. those eras because the players come and. go, and the coaches remain the same. Michigan State basketball is Tom Izzo at. this point more than it's Magic Johnson.

Um that The one thing there with Hurley, so I had him on Get Up on Monday. morning. And I really regret that I had not seen. this moment at that point. I don't know. why I didn't see it. I don't know when. that video went viral. I raced right out. of the studio um on on Monday morning at. 10:00 and raced to the airport to fly to. Phoenix. So, it wasn't until I got to. Phoenix, I landed whatever time, you. know, 6 7 hours later that I saw this. And so, I so regret that I did not ask.

Hurley what was what the hell is going. on there? Because I mean I never I Bob. Knight, I never saw him do that. I never. saw any coach, no matter how intense. they are. I have no idea what that. moment is about. I know they've both. downplayed it, and obviously there was. no outcome. But can you imagine if the. official were to call a technical. and the outcome of this game actually. turns on that? So, I don't know what in. the world he's doing there, but that's. something I've never seen a coach do. >> According to our source says.

close to the situation they're telling. us that he couldn't hear what the ref. was saying. The ref was trying to tell. him something. He couldn't hear what he. was saying, so he leaned in. And then he. has a very good relationship with said. ref because we know he does have. relationships with the refs. So, it just. kind of that that's how it all came to. be. I think that's why both the ref and. he downplayed it. And I think a lot of. Coach K, I think immediately said like. thankful that the ref did not decide to. make that about like it was interesting. how everybody a part of it spoke about. it. And then all of us outside were like.

that's an insane thing to happen. >> [clears throat]. >> in real time as outside the bubble. But. Coach K, I think he said like in there. Mhm. you know, like this is just a. little bit different and they were. talking to each other. He was saying. something to him. Nonetheless, insane. storyline of this entire moment. >> Here what the what the quote I saw from. Dan Hurley, and I don't know if he was. kidding, is he said that he thought the. ref was coming in for a chest bump. And. I'm thinking to myself, the ref is not. supposed to chest bump the coach. >> PRETTY COOL MOMENT, THOUGH. AFTER the.

game or at any point. Like can you. imagine if if that had actually. happened? If the ref had come running. over, "Hey coach, what a moment. I'm. thrilled to have been on the court. LET'S CHEST BUMP." LIKE THAT'S. [laughter] NOT something that an. official does either. So, it's just a. weird-looking moment in the basketball. game. And again, I have I am so. regretful that I hadn't seen it, so I. didn't get a chance to ask Curley about. it on Monday. That would have been so. sick. >> Are they tapping each other up in that. That's [laughter] what happened. Can you. imagine a full Hate me, Herlihy.

That's not [laughter] what happened. Yeah, it would be so cool if it. happened. Then he goes to the next ref. Next ref. comes in and. >> [applause and laughter]. >> The whole the whole line. Oh, that'd be. amazing. I thought there was a chance. before we reach out to our source that. he was potentially like maybe thinking. that that ref wanted Duke to win and. like was maybe some cause of him going. "What now?" We win, And then that. not being like cuz you can definitely. believe that that's what he was doing. there. And then they said no, great. relationship, trying to hear what he was. saying. And then him saying just I mean,

I think he does just say stuff though. I. think that is a part of the game up. there. The boys love him though. I mean, old buddy Monken made the shot said he's. his role model. He's his mentor. He's. everything and he he does yell at him. He gets after it. It feels like that's. how you win in college hoops. And we're. excited to watch this Final Four this. weekend in beautiful Indianapolis, Indiana. I think they're going to do. battle out there. Let's go back to the. NFL here. Tone has a question for you. Greene, earlier in this conversation you. talked about NFL teams ruin ruining. young quarterbacks. I'm I'm glad you.

brought up the Jets so I didn't have to. do it. And you're also a big fan of the. draft. >> said it 30 minutes ago. >> Yeah, I remembered it. I wrote it down. You obviously host the draft. You host a. draft podcast First Draft with Mel and. Field. So I wanted to bring up I saw on. Get Up this morning you guys did an. alternating mock draft where you showed. alternating mock draft where Ty Simpson. was taken 33rd to the Jets. Do you think Jets fans would be mad. about that with the all the draft picks. they have in 2027 and the quarterback. class that is supposed to be coming out. in 2027 or do you think Jets fans would.

would be okay with that early in the. second round? I think Jets fans would be okay with. that. I think there is some logic. I. think it was Tim Hasselbeck who said. today there is some logic to packaging. The Jets have the 33rd pick and the 44th. pick. To packaging those and moving up. and taking him somewhere in the first. round. If if that's what they decide. If. they identify. Ty Simpson as a guy they believe can. turn into a great player. And as you. guys well know, there are very mixed. opinions on him. Everything historically.

about him there was trouble. So, I told. you this the other day, McAfee, but for. those who have not heard, I think this. is an important point. One year I was. when I was still hosting Mike and Mike, the draft was in Chicago and I got on a. plane to fly from Hartford to Chicago. and I happened to be seated just. randomly next to Bill Polian who I used. to call the Frank Lloyd Wright of the. NFL cuz he was the architect of all. those great teams. And I I really I grew. to know him and really really like him a. lot when he was at ESPN. And he kept. Oh, no. Drafted me to a Bill Polian just.

so I get that in before Greeny went. after it. And he lost his Sorry, he's. Oh, jeez. Your connection's unstable. It's on our side isn't it? >> the big apple? Your It says our. connection's unstable. He was just about to tell us everything. Yeah, he's He told me. He He was giving us the key to life. >> He's on the inside too. I'll never forget. There. Okay, Greeny, you're blurry but the. message still remains. >> I'm blurry but I'm back. >> Yes, you are. You're back. >> that this works. I think my signal is. good. I hope that everything is good and.

that you guys can hear me. >> Yep. Yeah, yeah. >> So, Polian said to me. He said to me "You don't draft the. outliers. You don't do it because. everyone will point to the one success. story of the guy who didn't have the 40. time and didn't measure the way you want. him to, but what they don't show you is. the 15 guys who failed. So, you don't. draft the outliers. So, Ty does not. check any of the boxes. 15 starts, he's. only 6'1, he doesn't have a cannon for. an arm. There are all of these things he.

doesn't have that would suggest that. there is risk involved." Now, I'm not an. evaluator, I'm just an aggregator of. what people say. There are a lot of. people who know a lot about. quarterbacks, Dan Orlovsky, Jordan. Rodgers, and many others who are super. high on him. If the Jets are high on. him, then it might make some sense to. package their two twos, trade into the. back end of round one, A to make sure. you get him and no one beats you to him, but secondly, maybe more importantly, to. get that fifth year. Because if he's. going to be a developmental player, then.

you want one more year of him being tied. to your organization before you make a. decision. With regard to next year's. class, I will just say this. If I could If I could tell you how many. times I heard people identify this. year's class, 2026, as the year that was. going to be loaded with quarterbacks. We're going to have Garrett Nussmeier, and we're going to have Drew Allar, and. we're going to have Cade Klubnik, and. we're going to have all of these And. it's going to be loaded. There's going. to be five first-round quarterbacks in.

2026. And now we're sitting here. fighting over whether or not Ty Simpson. makes it, too. So, I would not count on. all of those things working out next. year the way everyone anticipates. You. don't sit around and wait. There's only. one Arch Manning. If you identify the. quarterback and you like him, you take. him. >> Wow. We'll see if Arch Manning had that year. at Texas. Sark came out and said that. they feel different this year. They feel. different this year. They're going to go. and run. And we believe towards tail. end, Arch was he's a bad Manning out.

there. He's spinning it up. He was a bad. Manning out there. So, maybe he'll go. next year. Dante Moore also going back. to Oregon for another year. I mean, there's a lot of return back to college. to say, "Hey, let's maybe get a little. bit better before we head up to the NFL. and let's also make millions of dollars. in modern college sports before we do. that." Greeny, we can't thank you enough. for taking time out of your life to. chitchat with us, brother. Guys, it's been much too long. Don't be. a stranger. Let me see you We'll be in. Pittsburgh. So, if you have time for me, I would love to come by. I'll be there. starting Tuesday night for the draft.

So, I assume you guys will be there all. week or something close to it. So, if. you have time for me, I'd love to come. by. >> Yeah, definitely. We will certainly be. out there. We will see you Tuesday or. Wednesday, whenever we get out there. We. can't wait to watch you crush it on the. first night of draft. And I want to let. you know, Greeny, if you want to hang. around here for about a minute and a. half or so, Yeah. Yeah? Greeny, I got good news for you. I'm just eyeballing you from afar, you and your family. >> Mhm. >> I know that there's some people that you. hold in very high regard without ever.

having to really ask you how you feel. about the person. You You understand. what I'm saying? Sure. So, you know, in Pittsburgh, during the draft, Friday night, a man, a Yinz-er, a legend, will be. performing a free concert alongside Wiz. Khalifa Ooh. >> for the draft. Ladies and gentlemen, joining us now, a. man who's going to get a motivational. speech from Mike Greenberg as soon as he. shows his face on the show to have a.

great performance whenever he performs. at the draft in Pittsburgh on April. 24th. Ladies and gentlemen, BRET. MICHAELS SUPPORTS THAT. >> [cheering]. >> YEAH! >> [screaming]. >> HEY, BRET! OOH! HEY, GOOD TO SEE YOU, BRET. HOW YOU. DOING? >> YOU GOT ME FIRED UP. I'M READY TO GET in. there right now and start this concert. >> YES, HE IS. HEY, GREENY, WHY DON'T WHY. DON'T YOU LET BRET KNOW WHAT WHAT TYPE. OF THING he needs to bring to this. draft? The draft's only gotten bigger. and bigger. The draft is now a. spectacle. The draft is coming to. Pittsburgh where Bret is from. It's.

going to be the biggest and best of all. time. Greeny, let him know what he needs. to be thinking about as he takes the. stage for the NFL draft. I'm telling you right now, Bret, first. of all, it's a pleasure to talk to you. I've been a fan for decades. Um and I will tell you that having This. is my This will be my sixth year on the. draft. The draft has become like the. Super Bowl. This is no smaller a gig. I. want you to approach this as though this. is like playing halftime at the Super. Bowl. There's no difference. There's. nothing smaller about it. The audience. is enormous. The number There will be. more people there in Pittsburgh live.

watching you than are actually in the. stadium when the Super Bowl game is. being played. Yes, they consider this. the biggest go out there and consider. this the biggest game you've ever had in. your entire life and just destroy it on. THAT THURSDAY NIGHT. >> [laughter]. >> WAIT, I JUST GOT TO SAY I'M A FAN ALSO. >> OH, We hung up on him. I'm fired. up right now, Pat. I'm fired up. Brett,

he didn't hear that. We hung up on No, he's still there. Hey, did you hear he's. a big fan of yours, too? I'm still here. Yes, I did. That makes my day. I. Thank you. I'm a football fanatic. I'm. going to see you there. We're going to. talk life, football. I said many times. that that sports, football especially, music saved my diabetic life and and. gave me inspiration. You just got me. fired up. It's ridic- I got chills. I'm. fired up.

Look, I'm not making that up. It's the. Yinzer in me. I'm ready to go downtown. every day. Oh, I like that. I like that. You're killing it, Nat. And Granny, one. time with us, please. >> [singing]. [applause]. >> I want to tell y'all it's going to be. I'm so fired up. Wiz and I are going to. bring it and I we have a title for it. We're going to have the black and. yellow, nothing but a good time and.

nothing but a good draft, all killer. hits, no filler. Okay, so that's the. title. Hold on. We got to go back to the. Okay, so. >> long. >> Okay, but we got it. We got Hold on. I. didn't know I was going to have to take. it in the Okay, so it's the black and. yellow, nothing but a good time, nothing. but a good draft, all. bangers, no filler. Is that what it is? All killer hits, no filler. All killer, no filler. Okay, black and yellow, nothing but a a time, nothing but a good.

time. >> I know [singing]. but A GOOD TIME. >> [screaming and groaning]. >> OH, YOU'RE GETTING ME LOOK AT ME. YEAH, YOU'RE GOOD. OKAY, BRET, LET'S LET'S. TALK ABOUT THIS. HONESTLY, GENUINELY, you are Butler, PA, Pittsburgh man. Uh. and you've obviously gone on to have. immense success. Obviously, every Yinzer. proud to see another Yinzer have great. success. You love the Steelers. I think. you have been very adamant and open. about how much you love sports and. appreciate the Steelers. I assume this. was a massive call whenever you're asked.

to perform at the draft for the city of. Pittsburgh that will never get a Super. Bowl. This draft is the Super Bowl. So, this is massive football event in. Pittsburgh. I assume you were very, very. elated whenever you got the call for. this, Bret. Is that accurate? Beyond accurate. First of all, on a very. sincere note, I I I want to say this. When I got the call about doing this, I. was talking with everyone about it. I'm. a I'm a 100% guy. As you as a fellow. Yinzer, uh we're we're 100% guys. And I.

I just want to say it was like a bucket. list dream come true. Besides, I also. told them. you don't ask me to come up and perform. at this on Friday night. I said, "I'm. going to take gaff tape and gaff tape. myself to the podium." So, one way or. the other, I'm going to be there in. Pitts- I've had duct tape already to go. I was going in I was going in. I like. that. I If you were to tape yourself. there and Roger Goodell had to come out. and stand at your podium for every. single draft pick, that would certainly. be a great way to get a part of the.

Pittsburgh draft. You and Wiz going to. be performing together? How's this go? So, here's how me and Wiz, right? We uh we got together we met at. Jay Glazer. We were throwing a party. We. were raising a a big charity event for. the fires that happened. And long story. super short, uh we went there. I was. jamming. I brought up some stuff with. some friends of mine. Uh and we were on tour. I said, "Let's. just grab the band." Went over and. played acoustically for a lot of people. Wiz and I started just singing songs, doing stuff together, and it became.

That's where it all kind of started. right there, and we said, "We're going. to take this to the draft." Okay, so you. singing together, you're doing your your. song, his song, together songs? Here's what we're going to do. The way I. feel it, we're designing the set. together, and and I got to say this to. Wiz and his team and Will and everybody. also from Pittsburgh and our team, we. everyone is getting along unbelievably. great. >> Love that. Everyone's like, "Here's how. the stage could look. Where are we going. to put the DJ, the the double drums?".

And then we're going to match the set. up, and I think the way we'll do it, when we hit that stage, do a couple of. ours, couple of theirs, and then come. together and do one big grand finale, and or throw it into the middle of the. two and just smash it up, but nothing. nothing but hits from both of us. >> Yeah, all killer, no filler, baby. It's. uh black and yellow, nothing but a good. time, nothing but a good draft. All. killer, no filler show with Bret. Michaels and Wiz Khalifa. Wiz, as you. know, genius, uh the way he's operated through the.

business. Uh same as you, I love the way. you've navigated through the business. yourself. And Will, we actually grew up. in the same Will's from Plum. So we uh. we got a lot of love for Wiz's team and. Will, and we're very appreciative of you. guys representing the city on Friday. night. And we can't wait to watch it. all. Now, let's talk a little bit about. the Steelers before we have to get out. of here. Go ahead, Tone. >> Yeah, Bret, speaking of the Steelers and. the city, obviously we get Yinz legend. Big Mike McCarthy back as the head. coach. How do you feel about Big Mike. coming back and and just like the what. he has shown, the emotion he has shown.

since becoming the Steelers head coach? Well, I'm going to say I'm rubbing the. genie right now. I'm bringing it out. I. think Mike is going to be a amazing. First of all, I I I just want to say. Look at this. Look at this. I'm I'm. bringing it out. >> Yeah. Here we go. Here we go. Oh, Pittsburgh's going to the Super. Bowl. Yeah, all right. Okay. All right. You. got to finish it. We got feeling.

Yeah, yeah, we do. Yeah, we do. We. definitely do. Big Yeah, go ahead, brother. Go ahead, brother. The answer. is The answer is I think Mike is going. to do an amazing job, and I just want to. be really clear. Mike Tomlin, 23, if I'm. not completely mistaken, winning. seasons, family friend, his son Mason. comes on and does a bunch of the shows. with me on the Live and Amplified tour, love him. And where we're going with. with Mike, I think it's going to be incredible. Big.

on heavy on offense, and I just think. look I'm a I'm a guy I'm a believer, and. I go in there 1,000% believing we are. going to just we are going to rock the. world. We're going to make it happen, and I always say this. You can have all the skills, all the. thrills, all the spills, you can have. all that. But you got to have what. Pittsburgh has. It's willpower. We got. to have the willpower to just push it. like Bettis used to do. To will it to.

win. Jack Lambert, from Harris to the. ground, from that moment on, it was it was go We were winning that. Super Bowl from that moment when he. tapped Yurl on the head. And And turns. out, by the way, Harris did a big. diabetic thing with me, one of the. nicest people in the world. Just want to. go on record, but during that Super. Bowl, I was with a bunch of friends of. mine that were Cowboy fans, right? And. that's all right, see NFL? Love who you. love. But when when Lambert got fired. up, it was great. Sorry, I'm on a.

tangent. No, it's good. I like what. you're doing. Yeah, we can tell you're. excited. Tell your fan you you were The. thrills, the spills, and all that. I. thought you were going to say hills, cuz. Pittsburgh does have. more hills. Yeah, the most amount of. hills. Yeah, we got all the hills. That's why. I'm I'm to see the backdrop of that. draft, Brett. I think it's going to look. amazing. I think it's going to be. spectacular. I can't wait for you and. Wiz to absolutely dominate the NFL draft. and we appreciate you taking the time. and representing the city the way you. do, brother. Thank you. And I And I just need to say.

this before I leave the show. Thank you. and thank all of you. All of you. We. watch it. I'm a fan. Thank you for all. you do. All the hope, inspiration as a. sports fanatic. You rock our world. We. love you all. >> Hey, Brett. We love. you. We love you. We love yinz. Yeah, yeah, that's what I'm saying. Okay. I like. what you just did there. All right, we'll see you down there, John. You're. the man, ladies and gentlemen, Brett. Michaels. >> [applause]. [cheering]. >> Brett and Wiz, I LIKE THAT. UNBELIEVABLE. >> Got a little jam session going on. Cuz. at first you think to yourself.

how's that going to go? And then you. obviously know at Jay Glazer's house. they figured it out. >> All bangers. They already did. That's. how it's going All killer, no filler. It's a lot. >> going to be That means they'll probably. transition pretty quickly through cuz. he's got six top tens with Poison. Wiz has got what? A ton. Yeah. >> 13? A bunch. I would say 13. So. >> probably go not full We'll probably get. a bang and a pow and a boom. >> Oh, it's going to be unbelievable. >> Glazer might actually be the conductor. He might be like sending it back and. forth. >> that. Free concert, free concert, free I.

This is all free. I forgot about this. The draft is free. Yeah. Yeah. That's. bananas. We're going to have so much fun in. there. We're very grateful that we're. going to be there. Mhm. Who the Steelers going to take, Brett? That's what Taiwan asked. Just everybody. knows. Just wanted to see what position. group he wanted to attack. I didn't know how when you wrote Brett. on the whiteboard you were going to. deliver Brett. Was it going to be Brett. or was it going to be Hey, Brett. Who. knows? We'll see you tomorrow. Goodbye.

Kane Brown also performing. on April 25th. We love Kane Brown. >> Sultry voice. That'll be sweet. >> Bangers too, though? Yes. A lot of. bangers there. A lot of a lot of. intensity. So Friday night, April 24th. will be Wiz and Brett. That'll be second. round. Thursday night is first round. Obviously, that's when all of the We're. going to see all the Steelers. We're. going to see everything that first day. >> Yeah. Yep. It's going to be wild. I'm excited for it. There's been a lot. We think Pittsburgh. Saturday sun- Saturday? Yes, they're. going to be there every single day. No.

No Buckos game cuz the they're in Texas. We We looked it up like that will be the. thing. Especially if the weather's good. >> weather's good. Yeah. That's what I'm saying though. Cuz. Saturday's when all the families take. their kids down there to do all the. drafts, you know, stuff. Fan experience. >> All right. I think so, too. They're. saying 700,000. I'm like, who Who's. making up this number? Like, are you. Are you Are you just like looking at. houses and saying, "Ah, three of them. will come in, two of them will" Like, how are you How are you. >> just I assume they're just averaging. like past drafts like Detroit and Green. Bay and they're just like, "Oh,

Pittsburgh's going to do the same as. that." I assume. I saw I saw like. numerous people that I have respect for. their opinions being like, "700,000. people trying to get downtown's crazy.". It's like, I'd say that's pretty Yeah, you don't. really see Pittsburgh hosting festivals. too much because of how they are in and. out it is. I guess a lot of road. closures, too. Everybody's really pumped. up about it, but they're saying 700 I'm. like, "Who Yeah, you can't make the. tunnels bigger. Who projected that. number? I genuinely don't know. You know what? Maybe B-Mac. The. helicopter Uber should. be. Yeah, dominate. Well, once again, if the.

>> Water taxis. Once again, if the weather. is Yeah. That's going to be great for the local. economy. Always is. It is going to be great for. the local economy. We're writing out a. couple of local places. >> Exactly. Excited for that. Got a couple of the boys from back home. right now at a couple places. I guess. there's a lot of going on around. >> I bet. There's a lot of There's a lot of. stuff happening around Pittsburgh. Cannot wait to go say hello to. everybody. Wednesday night, we're going. to have an event at the Carnegie Science. Center. That's going to be pretty cool. What? >> Nothing. You said, "Now do you" What.

What was No, that's not what I said. Yeah, I think I know what he's going to. say. It is a private event, unfortunately. [laughter]. We don't know if that's 100% sure yet. >> I hope it is. Tone, I know there's a lot of things. that Isn't that crazy Fox you have where. there's always just like. >> What's going on? >> I We We don't have a clue what this. event's going to be, but we do know that. we're going to be celebrating Pittsburgh. in a big way whenever we go back there. We're lucky and thankful uh that we're. getting an opportunity to cover it and. the fact that it is back in Pittsburgh. is cool. Like it is a very That is a. very cool thing, especially cuz we know. how much Pittsburgh loves football and.

Pittsburgh won't get a Super Bowl. So, like all eyes on Pittsburgh being an. awesome football town happening during. the draft. We're lucky that we're going. to be in the mix somewhere. Thursday. night I'm sleeping on second base. Already called dibs. I'm walking over to PNC, sleeping on. second base. That'd be sweet. I think. if it's anything like the Biltmore, I. don't think you're really getting in. anywhere, you know? You got 31 billionaires with last They. don't come to the draft, huh? The. owners? >> Oh, yeah. They'll be in their draft. room. Coaches, none of the GMs. It's. only fans. It's a nice little It's a nice little.

>> What's that? Get it? Say it's only fans. Jeez. Is that still doing it? >> Oh, boy. I don't know. Tony, is it? >> [laughter]. >> That was a wild response right there. I believe someone died, but. >> [laughter]. >> We hope everybody's okay. The guy who. created it, yeah, died. Really? Rest in. peace. It's some Russian billionaire. I think. he had cancer. Rest in peace. There was rumors. >> Or if people If he's back, I don't know. enough about him. Or Ukraine. >> There was rumors on who's going to buy. it. I really enjoyed those ones. Let's. get out of here. It's been a good little day, hasn't it?

Yeah, it has. It has. Good time to remind everybody that night. night in MANCHESTER STARTS SHORTLY. >> [screaming]. >> ACTUALLY NEED TO GET THAT IN. UH. WHATEVER YOU DO AND LISTEN, I'm trying. to find the crime. I can't believe we. got A LOWER THIRD. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. FINALLY, SOME GOOD WORK COMING FROM BACK. THERE. >> [laughter]. >> I WISH YOU WOULD HAVE SPELLED a word. wrong in there. I can take it down. No, I Fox had it up for a while. [laughter]. Oh, it's back up. Look at that, Tone, man. Look at it. They're supporting you. behind the glass. I like it.

>> I mean, look, but that's the thing about. Darts. It's just eight Mavericks. chucking. They They don't need support. They don't need support. They're doing. it no matter what. Eight Mavericks. chucking. Eight Mavericks chucking, seven dudes [clears throat] with gout. five. >> [laughter]. >> All right, let's get out of Eight fats. OH, THAT'S NOT FAIR. GOEWIN PRICE. >> SEVEN BLOWN GAMES, SIX. STARTS, five 180s.

Four falling drunks, three screaming. hens. >> Two big FISH AND ONE DART CHAMPIONSHIP. >> [screaming]. >> Goewin Price is not a fatso. He is. jacked. He kind of looks. [laughter] like To say that there's. eight is just not fair. Yeah, Goewin. Price looks kind of looks like Sauron. You have friends, tell friends, have a. nice evening, including these darters. >> Yeah, Littler's ripped. I would just like these darters to one. time care about darting, okay, when. you're not darting. Think about darting. >> They do.

>> Just with one decision that you make. Listen, I used to just tear it down. I. understand. I was I I didn't really. care, you know, about my body and like. health and everything. Now, granted, I. was like 21 at the time, 22. These guys. seem to be in their mid-50s, issue. Littler's 19. YEAH, THAT'S WHY. >> SHAPE OF HIS LIFE. That's why it was so. abnormal. That's why it was so abnormal. cuz they're usually these guys are. whatever, 100 years old, and they can. barely get the dart out of the board. >> Yeah. I can't be betting on these guys. I. can't be hunting for the crown on these. guys.

>> Yes, we can. >> I can't be seeing another L in my. DraftKings my bets again. L L Cuz then, you know what happens? Without even knowing it, I'm getting influenced into doing minus. 1,100 bets. >> Yeah, you're right. Yeah, it's happening. cuz I just want to see you win cuz I'm. on Littler and I'm on Go, JOHNNY, GO. GO. I'M ON THIS GUY. AND I'M ON this. guy. And I'm on this guy. And. every time I'm on these guys, oh, last. night they must not have remembered they. had a tournament today. It's like, "What. are we doing?" I need them to walk in a.

little bit more. What I will say, the spectacle of darts, it did have me. for a few. Yes. Still does. The crown's on tonight. West Virginia Mountaineers trying to. find a crown. Talent. Let's go, boys. Be a friend, tell a. friend something nice to my change your. life. Good show out of you guys today. >> Great show out of you, too. Good show, man. I think today was one of the ones. for the record books. >> It was a fun one. >> A lot of guests. >> That helps. Yeah. We're out of here pretty early. People. are going to make fun of us for that. No. Piss off. They're switching over to.

the darts. >> Watching darts. >> [laughter]. >> They're going We are not watching. Be a. friend, tell a friend something nice to. my change. cuz if you watch, it's hard not to be. like. the less sweaty one looks like he's kind. of dialed in today. >> Exactly. And it's Manchester capital. home courts. Boards. Yeah. Be a friend, tell a friend something. nice. Good luck out there, darters. Good. luck. Go get them, boys. Go to be battle. through gout and all the other Come on, Johnny. hangovers and I assume.

just so much pizza sitting in there. Can't be great either. You know what I mean? That's why tonight. of pub pounding. That's what I'm saying. >> [laughter]. >> Let's enjoy this life. Let's watch darts. Let's do it. We'll be. back tomorrow. We got a big time guest, couple of them tomorrow. Don't we? Got. some big stuff popping off tomorrow. Like. I think Coach K is going to be joining. us. Of course. I think. Yeah, there's a couple. I think there's. a few. What? Tal A Pete, I think he's.

joining us tomorrow. >> Here we go. The winner of night nine. I don't know if. >> Hopefully Luke Littler. Be a friend, tell a friend something. nice to my change your life. One last. thing the other. Team on me, team on. three. 1 2 3 team. Goodbye.

>> Mhm.