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slate was spectacular. I mean, you talk. stupendous. You talk magic. You talk. what football can be. Yesterday was, and. tonight, week 11 wraps up on Monday. night football as the Dallas Cowboys are. 3 and 1/2 point favorites traveling to. the desert to take on the Las Vegas. Raiders. Good luck to all parties trying. to follow what happened yesterday. This one of those things where it's like. the the main entree just happened. How. can you be a dessert to what took place? We shall see if Dak and Maxx Crosby on.

the same field will be exciting for 3, 4. hours tonight on Monday night football. Will the Dallas Cowboys cover 3 and 1/2. against a Las Vegas team that turns ball. over a lot, and you know, not having. their best year, and obviously Pete. Carroll's there. Chip Kelly's running. the offense. Geno Smith leaves Seattle, and now Seattle's a whole 'nother. conversation as well. Their quarterback. just threw four interceptions yesterday. So, did [clears throat] they make the. right decision in the long run? We shall. see. But, Geno Smith and the Raiders. have not been spectacular. The Cowboys, so much drama, so much controversy, but.

Dak Prescott always good. So, at least. tonight should be able to light up the. scoreboard, we shall hope in Las Vegas. The Talks to Tav is here at Boston. Connor and at Ty Schmidt. Ty, congrats. to your Green Bay Packers big win. Hey, big win. That's big win. Hey, John, it's. a good football team. >> That's a good football team, and. bordering on a great football team with. James Winston playing quarterback. So, that's a that's a great team win, back. on track. I love it. >> I don't know if you heard about this. He. did the Harlem Shake, you know. Oh, yeah. There were some youngs that had no. idea what that was. >> Correct. And do you know that the youngs. thought that that Harlem Shake was that.

like Vine video where everything was. quiet, and then it went crazy and did. the what? >> They they forgot the Yeah, yeah. And the. guy who did it is sitting right next to. me. >> No, no, that wasn't me. Yes, it was. Yeah, yes, it was. >> Well, I mean, to be fair, the the one. video I saw, the background music was. the do the Harlem shake. Da na na na na. na na. Yeah, but it wasn't the dance. The dance the Harlem Shake. James went. Yeah, uh-uh, uh-uh. Now, he didn't do it. >> Is that what that was? Yeah, I think so. >> [laughter]. >> I I think so. He didn't do it in the. cleanest as I've ever seen any human do. anything, but his tour of New York.

awesome [laughter] is only going to. continue. I mean, he is James Winston. He gave a pregame speech. He had a press. conference. Obviously, he did this. He. did his thing, and they they almost beat. the Green Bay Packers. Yeah. Now, they. didn't, which is obviously what we all. assumed would take place. Green Bay. Packers, did you learn anything about. your team? Are you guys going to be able. to win a Super Bowl, you think? Uh. Jordan Love came through when he really. needed to. Stats weren't the greatest, but it was very windy yesterday, and he. let him down through a huge touchdown. pass. So, seven drops is going to skew. what his stat line looks like, but I'm.

very confident. Guess what? This is the. Packers team for a lot of the game on. Sunday. They're going to make you want. to, you know, take an ice pick and shove. it into your eyes, but if they win, that's good by me. >> Okay, an ice pick is certainly quite a. descriptor there on how you want to feel. while you're watching them play. He. throws this. touchdown, great play. Josh Jacobs gets. injured though, right, in the game with. a knee? That's a massive piece of the. Green Bay Packers offense. We'll. certainly talk to Schefter here in a bit. about that. Congrats to the Packers. surviving and advancing, getting a win, and getting to next week. Let's go to. one half of the hammer, Damn it. Cowboys.

AP Tone, congrats to your Pittsburgh. Steelers. You're from the town with the great. football team. Now, who's going to be your QB? Okay, so, Aaron Rodgers injures his wrist in. the middle of this game, first half of. the game. Mason Rudolph gets into the. game and does his thing. Now, Aaron. Rodgers is. saying that he'll be back according to. people close to him, says Ian Rapoport. He was in the tunnel after the game, dapping everybody up. Clearly had. something on his wrist. Obviously, anytime you get a nasty fall like that,

it's going to be worrying. They. allegedly he wanted to get back in the. game. They didn't let him get back in. the game. Steelers still dominate the. Cincinnati Bengals with Mason Rudolph. Tone, your thoughts on how the game. went, how the team goes, and what this. means for the Steelers in the future. You got the Bears next week, if I'm not. mistaken. >> Yeah, it was vastly different than the. first time we played the Bengals on. Thursday night football where Flacco. went 38 of 40, and Jamar Chase had 37. catches for 400 yards. This time with. Kyle Kyle Dugger and and Jaylen Ramsey. at safety, the defense has been much, much better the last three games that.

that's happened. So, Flacco is not as. good, held him under 200 yards, got a. pick. But, as far That was awesome. That was. almost like the AB kicking Browns punter. right through the chest. Can't remember. his name. Yeah, it wasn't me. No, no, it. was not you. No, but people put me in. that position a lot. No, that was not me. getting stepped on by Antonio Brown. during a return, which he has certainly. done to people. Jaylen Warren doing that. same thing early. Felt like the Steelers. were maybe trying to set a tone. And. also, I would like to point out, grass. not that ass. Dope. Grass looks great. Grass looks great, and operated great.

So, shout to the grounds crew at. Acrisure, but Steelers get a big time. win, Tone. >> Yeah, they did want to set a tone, especially specifically with that. Darnell Washington catch where he just. put four Bengals into the ground, as. you'll see here. He's the He is awesome. He's quickly raising his level to one of. my favorite Steelers of all time. He. doesn't want to tackle me. Oh, he's. going to try to punch it out. Nope, you're going to get tossed as too tossed. as well. Darnell Washington was awesome. But, as you talked about, Mason Rudolph. comes in. It's awesome to have a backup. quarterback that is experienced, and you. know can win you football games cuz he. has it this time of year before. So, no.

matter who the quarterback is, I feel. confident going forward. >> 34-12, win over the Bengals. The Bengals. have a lot to figure out, obviously, going forward. We shall see. There was. an incident that happened in this game. that we'll definitely talk about here in. a matter of moments, and it is. definitely part of the first 15. Nine-year NFL vet, Darius J. Butler, looks incredibly cool. Miami Dolphins. kick off a Sunday NFL slate with a big. time dub over in Spain. What a win for. the Dolphins. ARE THEY HOT RIGHT NOW? And where is the quarterback going to. play? Uh Miami I'm assuming coming back. home. What what are you TALKING ABOUT?

>> NO NO IT'S I WAS A WALL ANSWER. THAT'S. SAME. THAT'S EITHER he wanted to and he. did and got it done. >> in more than two more than two places. No. Berlin and then they played it in in in. France and they played in England and. Australia. >> Yeah nonetheless a lot of places you. could have sent could have sent a lot of. places. He seemingly wants to you know. live in his own world doesn't have a. clue what's going on outside of it and. if he does then he's just doing that. Who do all that? Interesting. Got [laughter] to need a new kind of. need a new take on him. But other than.

that Dolphins won a few games. They get. rid of Chris Grier seemingly doing well. What are the vibes you think down in. South Florida with this Dolphins team? >> Vibes got to be pretty good. You get a. win obviously you know all the. distractions you got to deal with when. you go across the water but back-to-back. wins now and I everybody from the. outside looking in was hey you got to. fire the coach. We got to fire the GM. We got to do this. We got to do that. Get rid of Tua. So for the boys to rally. and get a couple back-to-back wins kind. of back against the wall. I'm proud of. them. I know they're proud of themselves. going forward. I think they can keep. stacking wins and maybe be lurking when.

it's all said and done in the AFC. >> Yeah we'll see if the Dolphins are. lurking. Shoutout to McDaniel getting an. opportunity here. Also shoutout to the. other half of the hammer. Cowboys Bob Gumpino getting a new. experience Miami Dolphins. merch throughout the season cuz he. thought he was going to have to hang. them up forever. He gets to put it back. on. Congrats to you having a great start. to your Sunday Gumpy. All the way back. HN is unbelievable. Just keep pounding. the rock every game boys. Vilma and. Kenny Albert to start our NFL Sunday. slate. I loved everything about it. The.

international games are done. And to the. international games I think there's. stats coming out that all of them were. close. We'd like to give a BIG KENNY. ALBERT YES. to what you wore this season. and Yes. we can't wait to COME BACK AND. YES. we hope that the international. games continue to grow and we appreciate. the hell out of all the international. fans who have taken a a love to our. sport our game our league. You people. are awesome. Thank you for the passion. Shoutout to you guys singing Country. Roads everywhere too and crushing it and. them not even singing it in Pittsburgh.

this past week. What are you doing? Well. everybody sings that song. That was. awesome. That was great reaction out of. those answers. I really thought there. was going to be a little bit of maybe a. sprinkle through there somebody would. catch on. That was an immediate. No way we're not doing that. Shoutout to. Pittsburgh for showing up on Saturday. Obviously I'm talking about the fans not. the team. Notre Dame kind of did their. thing to the University of Pittsburgh. football team. Notre Dame might be very. very very good. Jeremiah love special. town. Obviously shoutout to CJ Carr. getting a big time win. Aaron Donald. getting his number retired at halftime.

What was he trying to break my neck? YEAH WHAT THE HELL WAS THAT? WHAT WAS HE. WAS HE TRYING TO KILL ME OUT THERE? WHAT. MIGHT IT BE? OH ROBBERY. No he might. have potentially gave me a heads up that. if I was to pick against Pitt. >> [laughter]. >> there's a chance that he's going to. throw me off the stage. And there might. have been a little moment of me going. you wouldn't do that to me would you? From Palm you're from Penn Hills. And. then obviously you need a chance to kind. of see him flex what he has. They showed. a video before this of Aaron Donald he's. isolated chest benching 160 lb. dumbbells. 160 that's 320 lb both of those. 160 on.

each so the shoulders everything needs. to be in there. And this is the moment. where I told him yeah right I can't pick. Pitt. You're out of your damn mind. For. the good of ball and then yep go ahead. get the hell out of here. >> [laughter]. >> I'm glad you're still alive on your. feet. >> Thank you. Yeah like a cat nobody's. talking about it. You know someone say. like a panther but you know I don't want. that day. I'm like an Irishman. Stay. back there too as well. >> Absolutely. Yeah I didn't know what the. next steps were but I knew I wasn't. going to be a part of it. But I want to. let Aaron Donald know we appreciate the. hell out of you taking time out of your. life to join us on College GameDay. Everybody that hung out with us that. morning was special. That was a cool.

feeling man. Rudy's Subs comes through. My guy Greg who's deaf I didn't get a. chance to give him the full hi. thank you. Yeah love you man. >> [laughter]. >> Kind of get in there didn't get a chance. to do that but I appreciate him. Serafino's obviously Italian came. through. Dallas Alice Pizza he brought. 120 slices pieces. Yeah it was the first time I'd seen. Serafino's brought like dinner for 15. maybe. They set it up out there. Rudy's. Subs had like 30 subs out set up there. all kind of diced up. Literally first. time I've seen all crew production.

everybody like kind of come through like. a buffet style. And I think that's. exactly how Pittsburgh people would want. it to be on the back side of that entire. thing with the food. And then the crowd. showed up in a big way. I got emotional. a couple different times. You know cuz I. don't I don't know if GameDay was. supposed to go to Pitt. You know I I. don't know if that was supposed to. happen. Felt like there was some. conversations that took place where it. was like hey this could be special. Just. right across from the point as a boy you. know as a boy growing up there kind of. seeing the whole city come alive for the. good of football was sweet. So shoutout. to Pittsburgh and we're going back to to. Oregon. Feels like we were just there.

We were. >> [laughter]. >> just there. Always a great environment always a. great environment out there. Obviously. JMU was like a once-in-a-lifetime type. thing type thing a couple years ago. I. think there was an opportunity maybe. travel there. Montana Montana State I. think was happening in Montana this time. as opposed to Montana State which you. know the two cities I don't want to get. them wrong. Bozeman and Missoula I do. believe. This one would have been in. Missoula as opposed to Bozeman. So I. think there would have been potential. craziness. And then USC Oregon Oregon's. fans always awesome to College GameDay.

but this particular game has massive. college football playoff implications. obviously. And there's a chance down the. stretch but just know that these. conversations and decisions are made by. like at the end of the day uh. I don't want to say one person but it. does feel as if one person makes this. decision and I am not that person. Neither is Tone. Nope. Neither is Ty. Don't tell him don't tell him. Don't. tell him. >> Campbell. >> [laughter]. >> It's Connor Campbell. I heard on the. internet the reason Montana wasn't. picked cuz Nick Foles couldn't be there. and you can't go without Nick Foles.

>> So that was an interesting pick for pick. or up there. It was incredible. It was. so cold. Yeah. >> Generators were dying off. Couldn't have. the heaters so had to sacrifice the. heaters or the connection. You know. that's what they kind of had to get rid. of so set heaters kind of dropped off. the thing cuz we couldn't connect. anything. And watching the production. crew of GameDay who are a bunch of dogs. all the people that work the truck. drivers the camera people the audio. people the Romans on stage but all the. stage people like they're beasts. These. people are setting up a live show in the. middle of like nowhere in a lot of.

different situations. I've no idea how. many people have been live to the world. from Roberto Clemente Park right there. Now granted you can connect to whatever. but just the ability to pull this thing. off. That was first time I did see a. little panic on a lot of those people's. faces you know cuz we're losing power. quickly and we are not able to be. connected and it is only getting colder. out here. They had shirtless whites. obviously which you're starting That was. nuts. I think it's only growing even. more. But Montana was special. Montana. was special. Every sign basically was. saying don't move here. It was all in. Montana. They were using College GameDay. as a way to tell the rest of the people. like hey stop we know it's awesome.

Please please just kind of can we take. it easy? Stop moving here. Then Nick. Foles gets introduced as guest picker. Hey Nick what's your time in Montana? Moved here like 3 months ago. >> [laughter]. >> EVERYONE SHOULD. GET THIS GUY THE HELL. out of here. He held himself like a gentleman but. Montana was sweet. JMU was amazing. Oregon every time we've been there has. been a spectacular scene but I do know. there was other you know places that. certainly wanted it and it's so cool to. be a part of something like that. And. those are once-in-a-lifetime stuff stuff. that could have been experienced again. USC Oregon obviously massive game.

Oregon people have been good to us. So. that's I I I don't want to speak for. everybody that's on the stage that gets. blamed for where these things go. >> [laughter]. >> You know. But I think that is kind of. how it all goes. Now speaking of how it. goes we have a segment every single. Monday every single overreaction Monday. sorry. About the top five headlines coming out. of the Sunday slate. Now we don't like. to do. scripted stuff you know. We're kind of. just a free-flowing conversation daily. It It causes us to step into some stuff. every week okay? If we were more.

structured we probably wouldn't be in. the conversations that end up happening. about us on a regular basis. Maybe even. the Jeopardy clue question you know if. we everything was a little bit more. scripted and structured. But we feel. candid conversation is the best way to. go about learning about stuff. entertaining about stuff and informing. people about stuff. So we don't normally. do this but we said we're a football. show. We need to do what football teams. do. Ladies and gentlemen it's time for. the first 15. Now this is driven by Ram. It's not first 15 minutes no it's first. 15 scripted plays that we have. In our.

case it's the first five the big five. headlines coming out of the Sunday. slate. Can we put the clock down in the. corner? Last week I think we went 40. some minutes. We'll see how this one. goes. Start the clock right now. Number. five headline coming out of week 11. Sunday slate THE BEARS. THE KINGS OF THE NORTH. NOW WE GOT A BIG. NUMBER FOUR right there on the top left. corner of that particular graphic but it. is number five on a headline and that. just tells you the headlines have been. fluid this morning. We've been trying to. learn about what the top five are and.

the Bears getting a shoutout is. certainly warranted of the conversation. Caleb Williams and his Bears team are. doing something special. Ben Johnson. came into Chicago with a whole culture. that he had to shift a whole culture he. had to change. And what did he do? He. did it. First couple weeks weren't easy. First couple weeks weren't easy. >> [clears throat]. >> Ben Johnson Caleb Williams these guys. never going to get along. Ben Johnson Caleb Williams these men. never going to be able to be a winning. team in the main Chicago. Ben Johnson. Caleb Williams will they ever see the. same? One guy wears fingernail polish.

The other guy wants to run his face. through any wall that he sees. Are they. going to be able to They have and they. are now the kings of the NFC north with. week 11 just wrapping up for them. Now. it's not just their offense. It's not. just their defense. It's their special. teams as well. Fourth quarter down one. Minnesota Vikings thought they had a. massive win. JJ McCarthy makes some huge. throws in the fourth quarter. Huge. completion Jordan Addison goes. absolutely crazy. Big return. The.

Chicago Bears Cairo Santos sneaks one in. the left. Now that looked like that. thing was hooking. Somehow that thing. stayed true. And now the Chicago Bears. are sitting at a wonderful seven and. three record as the top of the NFC. north. D Butkus when you see the Chicago. Bears team there's some stats you need. to look at. That's their fifth win when. they're trailing in the final two. minutes. That's tied with the 2016 Lions.

Yep. >> [clears throat]. >> Oh. I don't know if we put him in Super Bowl. conversations just yet, but we know.

getting to the Super Bowl starts with. getting a playoff game, a playoff home. game at that and they're in position to. win their division. And we talked about. how would this marriage work? How would. Caleb Williams operate in this Ben. Johnson offense? He's still figuring. that out, but this defense, you. mentioned it. Dennis Allen leading the. league right now in takeaways, got three. guys right at the top of the league with. Byard, Edmonds, and Wright when it comes. to leading league in interceptions. And. they picked on nine, JJ McCarthy, whoever whoever the hell was out there. throwing the ball. Even though he did. stick with it, he did get stay in the.

fight and make some plays late. They. figured out, you mentioned that third. phase of the game. And this is the. dynamic kickoff showing the impact on. games and their outcomes cuz they had a. chance to win the game, the Vikings. They went up a point and then boom, in. one play of the game, you kick it, Doovernay comes out and brings to. midfield, and they figured out. >> You know, the president hates the. kickoff. But on that note, have to throw. a strike. It's like baseball time. You. have to land it in the strike zone, basically. You have to get out of the. game. You have to cover a kick. Now, granted, there's going to be teams that.

don't like it, but the Chicago Bears. view it as an opportunity, and they get. exactly what they're looking for. They. probably knew old buddy would had been. kicking it into the corner. They get a. stretch, take that thing wide side of. the field, couple good blocks, three. good blocks, and all of a sudden, they're wide ass open, getting almost. back in the field goal range. And Cairo. Santos been kicking a long time. Football gods blessed him on that. Don't. think that. Uh the football gods blessed. him on that. That thing was hooking, and. it almost appears if the football gods. just kind of blew it in there because. they saw some of the throws JJ was.

making. Big yeah. And they were saying, "Hey, listen, this team cannot win.". Okay, and that ball was That ball was. still moving while he kicks it. Go back. Can you go back a little bit? I did not. know that ball was still spinning. Uh. so, that ball was still kind of spinning. from Tory here as he's trying to fix. laces directly right whenever he catches. it. He's trying to spin it and catch it. Normal miss. Okay, so even more so. >> Wow. Ball spinning like that, very hard. to kick. I mean, obviously, you're. trying to hit a sweet spot. Sweet spot. is moving while you're kind of kicking. it. I would I don't fake stats. 87% of. the time, that is a miss. >> Okay. Okay, that that is certainly a. miss, especially with the ball moving.

So, Cairo's mental toughness to stick. through that kick without giving up and. bailing on it, crazy. But I think once. again, it's the football gods. I think. it was the football gods saying, "Nah, this This guy's throwing a ball in the. front row of first row of stats. Yeah. This guy's throwing a checkdown 14 yards. over this guy's head. We cannot allow him to win. Now, I think. JJ in big moments needed a touchdown, threw one. Yep. JJ needs one, he does. it. So, if JJ can do what he does late. in games in the biggest moments. throughout the entirety of the game, I. think the Vikings have something. special. You know, and that's kind of.

what they say about nine. That's what. they say about JJ. And on the flip side, Caleb Williams does Caleb Williams [ __ ]. Yes, he every single week. That offense. is obviously going to be very dynamic, no matter what, cuz the way Ben Johnson. can kind of script things up and play. The defense, you talked about it, insane. Are the Green Bay Packers and. everybody else in the north. >> Uh-oh. a little scared of the kings, which could be the Bears for what, the. next Mhm. 20 years of Caleb Williams and. Ben Johnson, Ty? >> I don't know if I'd say scared, but at. this point, like it's it's no longer a. fluke. Like the proof is in the pudding.

I think most fans in the NFC North just. assumed going into the season, we. understood Ben Johnson was the bell of. the ball, but it's it's like we've seen. this with the Bears time and time again. over the last several years. So, but now. it's to the point like they win these. close games, and I think what we've seen. is that stuff typically I I don't know. if you can play a whole year and sustain. that, but that stuff doesn't usually. flip in a year. It'd be like next year. is the year where they lose all these. one-score games. So, like they're doing. it, and like you mentioned, I mean, they. have a pretty tough schedule ahead of.

them, but all like they just continue to. win. This is not a team you want to see, you know, have the ball down a point or. two in the fourth quarter. >> Yeah, they're very callous, you know, they they got a lot of close games. Here, you have each division leader, okay, in the NFC and the road that they. have left. If you talk about that. Chicago Bears team, we got Steelers, Eagles, Packers, Browns. Mhm. Now, that's at home. If that was in. Cleveland, that's a whole different. ballgame. And I don't know how we I. don't know how I missed it on Friday. I. don't know if you saw that when I was. talking about the Browns-Ravens. I didn't even put together that that was.

going to be a night game, 4:05 kickoff. in Cleveland. That's going to be a night. game. Yeah. They're going to have lights. on there. Cleveland's defense in. Cleveland, like. historic. That's a tough out like for. anybody. That That's going to be I I. Even if their record remains what it is, which is not another win, like three. wins, two wins, whatever it is, four. wins. Who knows what they're going to do. at quarterback? What do you mean? They need to play all. three quarterbacks every single. alternate snap all week. All week they. need to do that. But the Bears, you talk.

about the Packers twice, obviously, NFC. North football. Lions last week, Niners. are in there. Brock Purdy looked. unbelievable. Then the Philadelphia. Eagles is the Philadelphia Eagles. And. the Steelers might just found it. So, when you talk about hard road to the. playoffs, if the Chicago Bears are still. the kings of the north by the end of. this run right here, let's assume. they're going to win the Super Bowl. >> Yeah. They are currently third longest. or sorry, third shortest odds to win the. north. Green Bay and Lion and the Lions. are still ahead of the Bears to win the. division. Yeah, and I think it's because.

of the road you just saw. Shoutout to. the Bears though. And if your team is. ass and has been ass for a long time, you should view the Bears right now. They might just lay an egg down there in. Tampa Bay. Oh, yeah. What the hell? So, What's that? the Titans just. irrelevant just out of it. Take them. off. They can no longer win the division. statistically. Yeah, so the sports books. say, "We won't even let you." What is. week week 12? They're out of it. Have we seen Have we. seen this week 12 yet? I'm sure there's. been some ass teams in there. Yeah, the. Lions were 0 and 13, I think. Yeah, and. the Lion and the Browns. I think we were.

0 and 13 at one point, the Colts as. well. Remember those days? I really you weren't here. You came. after those days. You don't even know, brother. >> [laughter]. >> Browns still a chance, Browns. Yeah, still a chance, for sure, for the. Browns. That one seems going to get dark. soon, too, you know? >> [laughter]. >> THAT ONE'S POTENTIALLY GOING TO get out. of there soon. But the Bears, long road. Good luck to them. And currently, the. kings of the north. So, let's celebrate. the fact that you can be ass for a long. time and then be the kings very soon. I. guess Chicago is showing that. Now,

let's go to the number four headline, shall we? Ooh. Did you see Did YOU SEE IT? WOW. DID YOU SEE IT? >> UH-HUH. There's been a Josh. Alien Allen sighting. >> [laughter]. >> This dude is not from here. This man. looks like a big country bumpkin, doesn't he? Oh, yeah. He's got huge. hands, bigger than the average Joe, bigger than the bigger Joe. Yeah. He's got more athleticism than the. average more athleticism than the. athletic Joe. Mhm. This man's taller than the average. This man's taller than the taller.

This dude's got a better arm than the. average This dude's got a better arm. than a super arm having Joe. Yep. This guy's special. >> Montana? This guy's MVP. Uh-huh. This guy's. historic. This guy's legendary, and he's. doing things that only he has done in. the past. Anytime they're saying, "Hey, this is like the second time in. history." Finger roll to Deion Dawkins, good celebration. Team chemistry. seemingly very high. But whenever you're. the MVP, everybody thinks like, "Okay, how you going to top that? How you going.

to top that?" Had Hard Knocks. How you. going to showcase that? Big celebrity. wedding. This guy's super celebrity now. He's more than just football player, remember? That's right. More than He's. reading lines, you know, he's doing. other stuff. "I'm not just a football. player, I guess. I'm a little bit more. than that. Let's go ahead and pull that. Let's run that. [laughter] This guy's. not focused." Yeah, right. Him and Otto. Graham are the only ones in the history. of the game to go for three touchdowns. on the ground, three touchdowns in the. sky in the same game. He's done it. twice. Otto's only done it once. Now, at. the beginning of this game, it felt like. the Bucs defense had him. And at the. beginning of the New England Patriots.

game, it felt like the Bucs defense had. Drake. I'm starting to look in I don't. have a stat that #statthat, but I'm. starting to wonder, do the Tampa Bay. Buccaneers throw everything they have at. a quarterback in like the first quarter? And then it's kind of sink or swim, and. the good quarterbacks are able to figure. it out, and the bad quarterbacks are. going to end up dying. Let's keep an eye. and a nose to the grindstone on that. particular story about the Bucs defense, which certainly did their thing early. But whatever you think about what Josh. Allen was able to accomplish for the. rest of the game and what Josh Allen was. able to do, this guy's special talent. And think back to We talked about the. Bears being ass for the last 10 years.

Josh Allen was kind of ass first couple. years of his. >> Yeah. NFL career. Guy couldn't throw a. damn thing. We're talking about JJ. McCarthy throwing balls in the first. row, second row, fourth row. I saw one. of them, JJ. >> Oh, yeah. Josh Allen was the same. Mhm. I mean, Josh Allen had no idea where the ball. was going. Could throw it a long way, could throw it very fast if you wanted. to, had really no clue where it was. going. They bring in Stefon Diggs. He. works his ass off in the off-season. He. gets better and better and better, but. never loses his humility or his edge. Gains a football IQ, I think, through. all of the different reps, and he's.

still untacklable. D-Butt, this guy's an. alien. He's unbelievable. He's. unbelievable. >> he a little bit too relatable, maybe? When he talks, he's kind of funny. He's. charming. Full personality. Teammates love him. >> He does, you know, D. No. He does D's not drugs. He does You know, he He does all these things that make it. appear as if he's a Oh, we'll be a. rancher. We'll go get a couple hundred. acres or a thousand acres or whatever. They'll never expect it. This guy could. be an alien just dancing in the skies of.

a big country bumpkin idiot who just. happens to be outrageously good at. football and leadership, it seems. Yeah, you never out of it when you have a. quarterback like Josh Allen, reigning. MVP for a reason. And look, you can look. at his supporting cast. A lot of people. say been saying it for years, you don't. have the uh good enough pieces, talented. enough pieces around him. But, I like. the stable running backs they have with. Cook and Ty Johnson what he does in the. pass game. Shavers, he kind of broke out. uh this game, had a big-time game. This. game was an unbelievable back-and-forth. with Baker and Josh, but he just took it.

by the horns and three touchdown passes, three touchdown rushes. You would think. like a Cam Newton or Lamar Jackson or. one of these quarterbacks who's done it. Whenever you've done some [ __ ] in the. NFL that hasn't been done since the. 1950s, that's very, very impressive. And. take care, you know, he threw two. interceptions. Yeah, twice. Yeah, last. year against the Rams as well and doing. it again here and just putting the team. on his back. That's what they needed, that's what he needed. So, a big-time. play, big-time win, big-time game from. Josh Allen. Josh Allen, once again. >> Yeah, this guy is otherworldly. Can.

anyone win a Super Bowl with him is what. everybody asks. I don't know. There's. some stats and attributes that a team. needs or attributes that a team needs to. be able to win a Super Bowl, especially. what we're looking into. Do the Buffalo. Bills have that right now? I don't know. about all of them, but I do know the. quarterback piece of the AFC. That that. last piece, those last few plays with. those like design run plays that Joe. Brady kind of called more of, so tough. on the defense because you pick up an. extra blocker and it really becomes 11. on 11 down here. You're first and goal. down here, you just like going to. quarterback sweep to the right. Like. that's tough for a defense because you.

still have to account and go with James. Cook and do all this other [ __ ] and you. got 17 who's just as good as any, you. know, top-paid running back in the. league when it's in the open field. So, that's an unbelievable weapon for them. now down in uh that red area. >> Yeah, and I like how excited he is. Very. rich. Yeah. Okay, married, celebrity, be able. to figure it all out, already. accomplished, you know, hasn't won a. Super Bowl yet, obviously, everybody. will talk about that, but still like. visibly emotional and passionate about. the game is what I love. That was the. same about Stefon Diggs last week.

whenever he jumped up and did the onside. kick. I'm like, "Hey, that's a decision. That is a decision that was made by a. guy in a moment and there's obviously. business decisions that have happened. over the time. Josh Allen still fully. invested in being a guy and it's. obvious. The AFC East is starting to get. packed. Two of the top three odds-on. favorites for the MVP come out of the. AFC East, Con man. >> Yeah, Josh Allen is always going to be. the Bills in it. He really is one of. those guys where no matter who your. quarterback is, Josh Allen is still kind. of the prototype. He is filthy. I mean, you really don't see to Darius's point, a lot of guys at quarterback running QB.

power with never a question if they're. going to get in the end zone or not. When he runs that power, it is kind of. just, "Okay, that's a layup." If there. are, you know, seven guys in there and. he needs to make one miss or he needs to. carry one into the end zone, it's. amazing. I think I even can say this. with Bills fans agreeing with me, that. I'm not being able to stop the run will. bite them in the ass. It is inevitable. You're talking about, you know, New. England, sure, but look at the Colts. The Colts have the the MVP, you know, Jonathan Taylor. Could you imagine what.

Jonathan Taylor would do to a Bills. defense who just let Shaun Tucker, a. third-string running back, run for 110. [laughter] yards? Who's great. I'm. hoping it. I'm hoping it. But, on the. flip side, uh we got to see that alien. dancing, which is basically the entire. story of the games, I guess. And you're. right, I think Buffalo Bills fans would. say the same thing as you, Con man. I. think they would say we don't have the. pieces on the D-line to be able to. figure this out. Can they scheme that, D-Butt? Can you scheme your way into. being a better tackling defense? >> Uh no. No, no, you got to have You got. to have the personnel. [laughter] You. got to have. I mean, scheme helps, coaching helps, but you need the personnel out there,

especially when it gets to real. nut-cutting time down the late in the. season. All right, uh let's go to the. number three headline coming out of the. weekend in our eyes, spit cake. A study on saliva soiling the sport. What's the word soiling mean? You say, "Hey, what do you What do you mean by. soiling something?" Well, soiling means. to damage the purity or integrity of or. to defile. Okay. Seems like soiling was. actually the perfect word to describe. this particular spit cake. Now, let's go. to the game in question, Cincinnati.

Bengals, Pittsburgh Steelers. Long. rivalry. Huge. >> There's been famous fights in the past. in this particular series that have. caused playoff games to go a different. direction. You're talking about AFC. North heat. You're talking about the. toughness of Cincinnati. and toughness of Pittsburgh. Two newer guys to said rivalry. Jamar. Chase obviously been there for a couple. years with Cincinnati Bengals. Jalen. Ramsey just got traded to Pittsburgh. Steelers. He's playing safety now. full-time. And it feels like that's. probably the position that he should. have been playing for a long time.

They'll be able to do a lot with him. The one thing that'll be constant with. Jalen Ramsey, though, he's always going. to be up in your [ __ ]. >> Oh, yeah. And Jamar Chase didn't love. that. I guess there was constant. bickering and then it CAME TO A HEAD. RIGHT HERE AND WHEN YOU SEE. JALEN RAMSEY SAY, "I DON'T THINK SO." HE. SAYS TO THE REF, "DID YOU SEE THAT? DID. YOU SEE THAT?" AND AUSTIN Briskie says, "You know what? I don't think you guys. saw it. Let's go ahead and zoom this in. a little BIT MORE." BOOM. WOW. NOW, JAMAR CHASE WAS ASKED about this after. the game in the locker room and this is.

how it went down. So, just to be clear, you did not spit on. him at all. Ramsey is that what you're. saying? I ain't spit on nobody. Okay, so. then that leads to the question, is. there a chance that Jamar Chase speaks. like Sergeant Slaughter? Is there a. chance that he had no idea that he. hawked a massive loogie onto Jalen. Ramsey and he happened to do it low, too, so he had hit some skin. You see, this is starting to become a thing. You. got the visor here, you got the I'm. going to make sure I get in there. Maybe. Jamar Chase is just a spitty talker and.

an active speaker and that that loogie. that clearly came out of his mouth onto. Jalen Ramsey was just a part of him. You. Maybe he called him a Maybe he called. him a. I didn't have that much You know what. I'm saying. piece of poop. Yeah, maybe a piece of. poop or whatever the case is. And if. he's able to breathe and run with that. much saliva in his mouth naturally, that's a feat in of itself and they. should do a sports science rest in peace. on everything he's doing. Jalen Ramsey. said uh "Yeah, he's lying.".

He spit on me, so it's up. I'm going to. get [ __ ] up on football after that. Respectfully. Respectfully, of course. He spit on me, so it's up. So, like football is kind of. behind it there. So, let's just. chit-chat about this a little bit. There. does seemingly uh become a line in. things that are allowed and not allowed. Happens in combat sports, you'll see. like some things said, some things done. where they're like, "You went too far. You went too far." Feels like everybody. in competitive sports agrees that. spitting is just something you don't do, especially in the face of somebody. It's.

just the biggest sign of disrespect that. you could possibly do. And after hearing. what Jalen said and watching what Jamar. Chase did, and Jamar has to deny until. he does. Sure. Has to. And he might even. say I'm a. At the court date, he might act like he. That's how he he speaks in this entire. thing. But, D-Butt, this is now multiple. times we've seen it this season. And. it's also multiple times that we've. heard everybody basically say, "Yeah, you got to do what you got to do if. somebody's going to spit in your face.". It feels like that's just kind of the. reaction we all expect if you get spit. on. >> Yeah, that's what's surprising to me. We. all saw it with the Jaylen Carter one.

earlier in the season and before that, Dak has spit on the ground, which shows. you how, you know, just disrespectful. the act is. Now, when it actually. touches you, whatever the response is is. kind of warranted. I think we all agree. on that. But, it's that's the most. disrespectful thing you can do. This is. something that as a player, I don't. think I've ever been involved in a game. where it actually happened. Like that's. how rare it is. Like And now we have. like this research, we had it here, we. had it in college. I think that same. week uh when Jaylen Carter did it. So, just something you can't do. And uh.

obviously, you know, Jalen Ramsey, you. want to be out there for your team. You. don't want to, you know, he's a vet, he's been an All-Pro, he's a Super Bowl. champ. He wants to be out there, but. >> How will his team look at him if he. didn't do Yeah, I mean, you got you I. mean, that it's tough. You you're put in. a tough spot to react that way. So, Jamar Chase, the precedent has kind of. been set with Jaylen Carter being. suspended. I hate calling for guys to be. suspended, but if you do it to that guy, you kind of have to set the standard. because you can't just have guys. spitting on people. >> Yeah, I mean, we talked about it a. little bit with Daron Payne last week. I'm assuming his game check number is.

massive. Now, it is the first year of a. massive deal, I believe, or second year. But, so maybe the guarantees are a. little less, but when the one-game. suspension does get dropped because that. is going to happen, people need to. remember like, "Hey, this also comes. with a huge number." I think, depending. on whatever the guarantees were at. signing. I I ain't spit on nobody. So, you don't have to watch the tape. We. did. >> [laughter]. >> Pretty clearly. I don't see it. Well, here, they zoomed. in and there's an alternate angle. Oh, that's me talking right there. That's me. Everybody knows me knows.

that's how I talk. Talking about hawk, too. That's all I talk. Jalen Ramsey, though, becoming tone setter for the. Pittsburgh Steelers. If he was to get. spit on and didn't respond, tough day in. the office today going into the. Pittsburgh Steelers facility. So, I. mean, that is a that is a, you know, that's a. 6' 7". Yeah, that There was a lot of Steelers. fans that were upset at the time because. it was a crucial point in the game. They. were going to get off the field. Obviously, they get a first down and. then as soon as the video came out of. him spitting on him, they're like, "Oh,

yeah." Oh, yeah. He should have actually We should have. seen him do one of those, actually. Can't be just spitting on people. So, there's a suspension coming, we all. assume. We'll watch after here in a. matter of months. Let's go to the second. headline coming out. WHAT? WHO DID THIS? You need to see There's a. question mark here. Okay. Big one. The. Chiefs is not the Chiefs? Question mark. Put the question mark in there because. we would like an out. Okay, if down the. road here in the next few weeks, the. Kansas City Chiefs figure out how to be. a great football team that we know the.

Kansas City Chiefs can be. It's. possible. Okay, and if somebody's going. to quote this and put it out there, we. would like the full context that that. question mark is larger than all the. other letters that are on the graphic. There is a chance that this Chiefs. figures it out. Okay? There's a chance. that Patrick Mahomes is Patrick Mahomes. which we all agree that he is. And none. of us are saying it's Patrick Mahomes'. fault, but this Chiefs team just doesn't. look like the Chiefs team. Now, is that. because of who they were playing. against? And the greatness of the team. that is potentially about to become the. team of the AFC West? Is the Denver. Broncos defense exactly what everybody.

said it was going to be going into the. season? Is Bo Nix everything that Sean. Payton said he was going to be once he. got drafted there? Is the offense in. clutch time able to make any play that. anybody in the NFL is able to make. Yes, and is their kicker going to guarantee a. make whenever it push comes to shove? Yeah, so they got all the pieces. They. got big play Bo Nix making all the plays. whenever they need it. He seemingly. never rattled. He can run and make. everything. They got weapons outside. They got pieces everywhere and then. their kicker is going to make the kick.

I think now he's like 15 of 17 or. something like that or maybe 16 of 18. when under Sean Payton whenever it comes. to the final 10 seconds of a game for. having to make the kick to tie or to. win. Will Lutz was with Sean Payton in. New Orleans. He's with him now in. Denver. And it's like Patrick Mahomes, we all agree goat conversation. Goat. talk. Chiefs in the middle of a dynasty. We all agree that that's happened. Or. is the dynasty over? D-butt, they put a stat up on Sunday. Night Football and shoutout to this.

particular stat. Uh, one score games. last season, 12 and 0. This season, 0. and 5. And then. uh, I saw a bunch of people tweeting me. whenever I said, "What the hell's going. on?" We have a bunch of statisticians. coming. "This regression to the mean?". "This is a regression to the mean. That's what this is." I saw a bunch of. people acting like, "You doofus.". Obviously, after what happened last. week, there's a lot of inner super. intellectuals attacking me for. everything. "This is a regression to. mean. That's what this is, you idiot.". Everybody's saying this is natural. Now, we've seen it with teams in the past who. had the football gods blessing them.

heavily one way one season, then the. next year completely turning against. them. But it felt like the football gods. have been blessing the Chiefs just for. like 10 years almost. So them just. completely flipping it right now and. losing all these close games. D-butt, is. this the thing? Is the story of the one. score games that can't get it done at. the end where they usually would be able. to? Or is it a full game type thing. where they're just not the team we. thought they were? And I have a question. mark Yeah. next to me saying the Chiefs. Yeah. is not the Chiefs. Do you? >> Yeah, I don't I don't like going against.

the program, but I don't have a question. mark. I'M GOING TO PUT. WHAT IS THAT? EXCLAMATION POINT. [screaming]. YEAH, CUZ I I JUST WORKED HARD ON THIS. FOR THE LAST 27 seconds. Yeah, you can put it up on there. Yeah, get it up on there. Put it up on there. if you want. >> There it is. OH MY GOD. BOOM! EXCLAMATION. THE CHIEFS AREN'T THE. CHIEFS. They ain't I mean, look, they. just played the Broncos. We've seen in. this Patrick Mahomes era, they never. lose to AFC West opponents. They always. dominate AFC West opponents, especially.

What's today? November. 17th? Uh, Patrick Mahomes and the Chiefs, they. don't lose in November. This is when. they get hot. This is when they start. rolling. Yeah, we're yeah, we're. Now we're five and five right here. sitting at 500 in week 12. Like this. isn't the Chiefs. This ain't the team. Patrick Mahomes, they're not getting it. done. The worst spots where they could. have hit some big time plays. They even. got bailed out with a pick six that got. called back from Baron on a [ __ ]. penalty. But uh, the Broncos made the. plays. They made the plays kind of all. year long and definitely late in the. game when you expect it, hey, it's 13th,

it's a close game. Patrick Mahomes. they're going to find a way to win this. type of game. McMillan played an. unbelievable game, had a sack, had a. pick. This defense is absolute Yeah, this defense is dominant. They've been. dominant all year long. Bo Nix and his. offense still got to figure it out. I. think they will, but now I'm out on the. Chiefs for this year. You know, look, we've had dynasties that have taken some. years off from dominating. For this. year, I don't think we'll see the Chiefs. make it a run. When those people talk. about like regression to the mean with. the Chiefs being 12 and 0 in one score. games last year, 0 and 5 this year, yes,

that is a thing for normal teams like. the Vikings the one year went 10 and 0. or whatever one score games and then. went completely defeated the next year. The Commanders last year, I believe, were undefeated in one score games and. definitely rookie quarterback But that's. not the Chiefs. Like when you're when. you are good teams like this and even. the Eagles this year, like you get like. that's just what you do. You win really. close games. So for them saying. regression to the mean, this No, this is. like completely something that is not. normal. >> Yeah, and you talk about the Denver team. being really good. So maybe it's not. just the Chiefs, but maybe it's just the. Denver team. Here's a Hembo stat about. them out sacking their opponent. This is.

the sack differential for them and. obviously against them for Bo Nix. They're plus 22 right now. Or sorry, plus 36, which is better at 22 better. than the next person. 49 sacks, 13 sacks. allowed. Bo Nix doesn't get sacked and. they sack the quarterback. And it's. coming in bunches from everywhere. So. I'm not saying that the Chiefs is not. the Chiefs, okay? Like my friend D-butt. here. I'll be over in a moment. It's. going to be a tough road if they is. still the Chiefs right now. >> Yeah, and it was impressive watching Bo. Nix do this. This was his best game, I.

feel like, by far. He didn't really. didn't turn the ball over and it was in. the biggest game. I feel much better. about Bo Nix today than we did last. Friday after that Raiders game, but they. just pulled up the the kind of wild card. situation the Chiefs are looking at now. It's the Jags have the tiebreaker over. Kansas City. The Bills have the. tiebreaker over Kansas City. So I'm also. with you, there's still definitely a. question mark, but and you could say. like, well, well, I could easily see the. Chiefs finishing 12 and 5 and kind of. rolling through the rest of the.

schedule. And then you realize they play. the Colts next week off a bye. And it's. like. On that note, It's tough. Number one. storyline, off a bye. What? Colts wins. WHAT? [laughter]. BOOM! HOW? >> IT YESTERDAY. I WAS WATCHING. THEY PLAY. All right. >> [sighs]. >> It's not the actual real one. >> [laughter]. >> Okay. Okay, fair. Please put up the real. one. Thank you. The NFL's final play. Now, I would like to say the Colts. winning the Super Bowl still could be a. one. After what I watched yesterday, nobody's.

stopping us. Okay? I know there's a. couple really good defenses out there, which we'll certainly dive into in a. moment, but Danny Dimes got it figured. out. Jonathan Taylor do his thing. But. on that note, the NFL, remember just a. couple weeks going ahead, it's biggest. ass shaking day [laughter] it's had in. like 55 years. Yesterday, we're tying. records on how great of a game it was or. games they were. Five teams won on the. final play. That ties the record for the. most on a single day in NFL history. Seven teams came back to win in the. fourth quarter to win. That's the most. since 2022. That ties them for the most. in NFL history. So whenever you think.

about hanging around and is this game. over? Is it still something we want to. pay attention to? Yes. And then the. final play from the opening whistle till. the final kick, this thing is going to. be intriguing. That's exactly what the. NFL wants. That's why the numbers are. all up into the right for the NFL. Texans, Matthew Wright Uh, I'm sorry. Here's Carolina Panthers, Riley Ryan. Fitzpatrick Gerald hits a game winner. against the Falcons. Now, this is. obviously a rookie coming out of Florida. State hits a big time win. Carolina.

Panthers, Bryce Young breaks all-time. record throwing for 448. yards. Bryce Young and the Carolina. Panthers might have figured it out. There's another game winner here. that happened. Foxies will pick the. order here that we will go in. Boom! Houston Texans, Matthew Wright hits a. game winner over the Tennessee Titans. down in Nashville. Now, the Cam Ward led. Tennessee Titans season is not great. They've already fired the coach. It's. kind of ass down there, but they were in. this one until Matthew Wright hits a.

game winner. Will Lutz obviously just. hit for Denver. Cairo Santos for Chicago. against Minnesota where it feels as if. it's hooking and then the football gods. blow it back in there and then Riley. Patterson hits a game winner for the. Miami Dolphins in Spain. So five game. winners to wrap up games. Joining us. now, ladies and gentlemen, is a man who. is an absolute stud when. it comes to knowing things that. everybody else doesn't. Senior NFL. insider for ESPN, ladies and gentlemen,

Adam Schefter. Schefty, thank you. Thank you for. joining us. I know you caught the tail. end of our first 15 there. Let's talk. about it. The Chiefs is not the Chiefs. That is what D-butt is saying. Is that. what you're hearing from around the. league? Nobody's scared of the Chiefs. anymore? People don't think the Chiefs. are the big bad wolf coming to town? Speaking of big bad wolf, THAT GUY'S. SITTING IN A JAIL RIGHT NOW WATCHING. THIS CHIEFS TEAM LOSE ONE score games. IS THE CHIEFS NOT the Chiefs anymore, Schefty? Pat, they've won nine straight division.

titles. And barring something. unforeseen, they're not going to make it. 10. They're just not going to be able to. do that. At five and five. with Denver sitting there right now as. the number one seed in the AFC at nine. and two, they're four games behind the. Broncos. already having lost to them. They're. behind the Chargers having lost to them. And so they're in a situation where. Look, you take a look right there. I. mean, I don't know how they're going to win. that division. Like the goal right now.

for Kansas City. is to make the playoffs, get back in the. playoff picture, and then see if you can. go in three games on the road. Yeah, we'll see what the Chiefs are able. to do. Obviously, with Patrick Mahomes, it's hard to rule them out of anything, especially with Andy Reid and everybody. else they have. Let's move along here to. other storylines. Injuries obviously. becoming part of the stories quickly for. a lot of teams. Lane Johnson, obviously. a staple, a pillar of the Philadelphia. Eagles offensive line. Lisfranc injury. is what I read on the internet, four to. six weeks. What are we hearing about. Lane and what's likely future for him.

and the Eagles, Schefty? Yeah, I I think. it's going to be challenging for him to. return in the regular season. I think. that the idea now will be to get him. ready for the postseason, maybe the end. of the regular season, but it is a four. to six week injury. Suffered it last. night. He's been playing through so much. this year and it seems like every week. he put it on, he's fighting through, he's getting back out there, he has to. leave. And this is a guy who is one of. the standouts in the entire NFL, one of. the best offensive tackles, but he's got. a Lisfranc. Uh, the test showed that.

this morning. And now he's going to be. out for an extended period, but it's not. season-ending. That's the good part for. Philadelphia. That is great news, especially as fans of Lane Johnson. Godspeed on recovery there. Lisfranc, very annoying injury. Let's talk about. people we are fans of as well. Aaron. Rodgers, left wrist, obviously. We saw. him after the game whenever he was. wearing a hoodie, had a little bit of a. brace on. He was dapping everybody up. I. believe early reports are that he was. trying to get back into the game and. then he wants to play against the Bears, you know, cuz he does I think he. believes potentially he's their.

landlord, you know, because of what he. was able to do with the Packers for the. Chicago Bears. Feels like a very. emotional game for Aaron to play. What. are we hearing as of this moment with. the wrist injury for Aaron Rodgers? Yeah, I'm sure he's going to want to. play against the Bears, but again, he's. got a slight break in that left wrist. Now, he's having more tests today and he. probably has had them by now uh to. determine whether or not they will have. to do surgery, whether they'd have to. put a screw or a plate in there to. figure out exactly how to treat it. I I. think the team does not believe that it.

is any kind of long-term injury. So, the. question now is does he miss time? And. if he does, then Mason Rudolph would. obviously start against the Chicago. Bears this week. I think that's. certainly well within the realm of. possibility, but they don't think it's a. long-term injury, but today the tests. should show more and exactly how they. want to proceed with him. Okay, so Aaron. Rodgers, we know will want to play. He. views himself as an old-school player, views himself as an old-school guy. You. know, if I only played when I was 100% I. wouldn't play in the games. You look up.

the amount of games that he played. Obviously, everybody remembers the Jets. injury taking place, but if you look at. how he views himself as the Iron Man. old-school football, if he can play, he's going to play. That is kind of the. way it's gone with Aaron Rodgers. We'll. see if the Pittsburgh Steelers rule him. out. Josh Jacobs, now, let's go to the. Green Bay Packers knee injury. What are. we hearing for Josh Jacobs? Obviously, massive piece of this Green Bay Packers. offense since arrival from the Raiders. They did tests today. It was. structurally sound, so that's.

encouraging. They're going to consider. him week to week. I think it'll be. challenging to uh have him play this. week against the Vikings, but again, they're not ready to rule him. out just yet, but uh this is a tough guy. and he's usually out there. We'll see if. he's going to be able to make it back. this week. I think I'd be a little bit. surprised. Emmanuel Wilson's played. well, long season ahead. Um but he'll. have a chance. They're not ready to rule. him out just yet. Uh we'll see how the. week evolves. The good news for the. Packers is not long-term, no surgery. needed. And we'll see how soon he can.

make it back. >> Shout out Rob Demovsky on the coverage. there. Let's go down to Atlanta. Now, Penix seemingly out for the year is. what's being chatted about. Drake London. also injured. Let's start with Penix. then go to Drake London. Is it Kirk. Cousins time in Atlanta for the rest of. the way here? I do not expect Michael Penix to play. again this season. Mhm. He suffered a. knee injury here against Carolina. yesterday. He's going through tests. They did find damage with his ACL. Mhm. He has obviously had. This will be if and when he doesn't come.

back this season, which I would expect. to be the case. This would be the fifth of eight seasons. in college in the NFL. that he has been unable to finish the. season due to knee injury. And obviously, the Carolina the Atlanta. Falcons have a lot invested in Michael. Penix. Limped off the field yesterday. Uh the tests were not encouraging. It's. not going to be good. Uh I do not expect. him to play again this season. And that. means it's time for Kirk Cousins to step. in and this is why the Falcons have paid. him. It's up to Cousins to try to save. their season. And we'll see what he can do as the.

quarterback, but again, Michael Penix. not expected to be back again this. season. How about Drake London as we. stay in the Atlanta Falcons injury. report? Week to week. I wouldn't expect him to. play this week. They don't think it's. serious. They don't think he's going to. need surgery or anything like that. It. sounds like it's a similar injury to the. one that Brock Bowers had where you need. some rest sometimes before it's well, but at the very least he'll miss this. weekend. Look, now you're starting to. get into an area with the Falcons. Like. they're not winning. If if you're not.

winning and you're out of it, are you. going to rush your guys back? And what. does sense in bringing him back? No, they're going to want him back and. um they're going to keep fighting, but. yeah, I would think that he'll miss a. little bit of time here. Okay, the. Falcons quarterback room was certainly. talked about this offseason. 100 and. some million and then let's also use. number eight overall pick. Are you going. to trade Kirk? Are you not going to. trade Kirk? Now, they're both playing. Kirk will be playing and they're both. out of it basically, seemingly, whenever. it comes to the playoffs. Let's go to. another quarterback room that was. certainly chatted about this offseason.

Dylan Gabriel, uh who has been the. starter for the Cleveland Browns for the. last few weeks here, gets a concussion. Shedeur Sanders makes his debut with the. Cleveland Browns. Obviously, it doesn't. go great. Massive division game, Baltimore Ravens. Shedeur had a couple. good throws, had a couple good moments, gets sacked, fumbles as well, throws a. pick, some other stuff takes place. Obviously, not the ideal position to be. starting, but is there one of those when. you're a backup quarterback? I saw. obviously a lot of people learning about. the way the NFL works and how backup.

quarterbacks don't get a lot of reps. during the week. Obviously, why would we. be taking any reps away from the starter. when the starter is trying to win the. football game? There's only so many uh. reps we can get done. Why would we waste. any on the backup quarterback? That'd be. preparing for somebody to get injured is. kind of the NFL's thoughts. Now, did. they know Dylan Gabriel was going to get. hurt at some point? Should they have got. Shedeur more reps? Maybe. Shedeur came. out handled it like a professional out. handled it like a professional. Obviously, everybody has stuck up for. Shedeur Sanders in this entire process.

What do you think happens going forward. here? Dylan Gabriel's team? Shedeur. Sanders has opportunity? Like what are. your kind of thoughts on how this all. plays out? Yeah, well, you mentioned. that the the interesting part, which. Kevin Stefanski acknowledged after the. game yesterday, was that yesterday. was the first time that Shedeur Sanders. took a rep with the starting offense. Never happened all during training camp, all during the preseason, obviously. during practice in the regular season. Those were the first reps. So, uh as we talked about on Get Up this.

morning, that that's the first time that. the starting offensive lineman are. hearing Shedeur Sanders' cadence out on. the field. They don't know what it's. like. They haven't been through any reps. with him. And so, the reps that the. Browns had at the quarterback position. went to Joe Flacco. They went to Kenny. Pickett. They went to Dylan Gabriel. And none of them went to Shedeur. Sanders, who all of a sudden found. himself playing the Baltimore Ravens. yesterday in the second half having to. step in and be the starting quarterback. for the Cleveland Browns. Now, Dylan. Gabriel. is in concussion protocol. And.

obviously, most players who are there. don't usually clear in a week. We're. still waiting for C.J. Stroud to clear. and I think there's a real question as. to whether he would go on Thursday night. against Buffalo. I think there's a real. possibility C.J. Stroud will miss his. third straight game and it'll be Davis. Mills again on Thursday night. But Dylan. Gabriel would have to pass in one week. and I would say the chances of that are. not very likely, which would mean that. Shedeur would be in line. to take over as the Browns starting. quarterback Sunday against the Las Vegas.

Raiders and it could be Shedeur versus. Geno Smith. And that would mean Stefanski would be. shaping the entire week around Shedeur. Sanders the starter, which they never do. for a backup quarterback. So, that is. just kind of I think in real time what. everybody needs to know, like the. reality of situation. And on that note, good luck, Shedeur. Here we go. >> luck. Good get him. Finally giving him a. damn chance. Jeez. I'll have you know, he had zero. reps with the ones. Well, was he the. number one quarterback? No. >> No, but okay.

Go on. I don't have anything else. Okay. Okay. All right. Just making sure. Now, on that note, this week let's go. >> Yeah, hell yeah. >> And there's a couple moments in there, confidence, comfortable, arm, obviously, everything we've come to see and learn. and love about Shedeur. Maybe. Stefanski's able to make it work. Let's. stay in the AFC North, shall we? Go. ahead, Ty. Yeah, Schefty, uh everyone's. kind of said that, you know, the Bengals. are kind of circling Thanksgiving night. potentially for Joe Burrow's return, but. after yesterday, they get killed and. then we'll see what happens with Jamarr.

Chase. It looks like there's a chance he. might get suspended next week against a. tough Patriots team. Is there any chance. that they decide to just keep him on ice. because even, you know, I mean, if they. lose these next two weeks, you know, what's what's the point of playing him. on Thanksgiving? Well, I yeah, listen, I I think that. Thanksgiving always was going to be. ambitious for him to get back by that. night. I think the more realistic target. date was the next week against the. Buffalo Bills, but either way, the point. is the same. They didn't win yesterday.

They didn't beat Pittsburgh. Now, Cincinnati plays again this week and. there's a real possibility that they'll. be without Jamarr Chase. If they don't. win that game, then you go into Thanksgiving night on a. two-game losing streak or however many. games they've lost in a row here. A. bunch. And at some. "If we're not going to make the. playoffs, why does it make sense to. bring back Joe Burrow?" Now, Joe Burrow. is an athlete and he's going to want to. play and he's worked really hard to get. back. But.

common sense, logic, if they're not. winning and they're out of the What why. are they bringing him back? What? Are. they going to be in the playoffs next. year at any point? And then as soon as. they get out of the playoffs, you're not. going to play Joe Burrow? This is me, fan of Bengals, owner of Bengals saying. this. If cuz he's face of franchise. He. is program. Now, granted, can a bigger. bigger injury take place and knock him. out for sure, but I think it's going to. be a tough pill to swallow. You got a. completely healthy Joey Burrow just. standing on the sideline while people. are paying for tickets and stuff over. there in Cincinnati. I think that's I. think that's going to be a tough tough.

sell, but hey, Bengals will do it. Yeah, they they certainly will do it. >> Bengals will do it. And on that note, Joey B, what we're saying is you're too. tough for your own good is what the. world is even considering in all of. that. Now, let's talk about being tough. Guess who's back? Back again. Brock is back. Tell a friend. Go ahead, Debo. >> Brock Purdy's all the way back. Had a. great game yesterday. Him and Christian. McCaffrey did to get out of the game. clean and obviously, he's the guy going. forward, but uh what was the reports. with 13 after the game?

He looked sharp. He looked great. And. again, he wasn't going to play until he had. movement until they felt comfortable. with him back there and he had enough. movement and obviously looked really. sharp yesterday. Arizona outgained San. Francisco by over 200 yards in this game. and Jacoby Brissett threw an NFL record. 47 completions, the record for a regular. season game, but Brock Purdy came on, was hitting George Kittle, was hitting. Christian McCaffrey, throwing for. touchdowns, looking like he always did. He looked surgical out there, frankly, yesterday. And when when he's playing at.

that level, they're a tough team to. beat. And he played like that yesterday. throwing passes like that all day long. And again, they're they're in the. playoffs today. The Detroit Lions are. not in the playoffs today. Uh-huh. San Francisco's without so many. key players like Nick Bosa and Fred. Warner and all these great players that. they've lost. And yet, here they are. battling and in a spot where they're. competing for a playoff spot. >> And they lost Brock Purdy for an. extended period of time as well and. still were able to win. Mac Jones did a.

lot for his stock and who knows what. happens down the road. Congrats to Brock. coming all the way back and playing like. that. We are happy for him. We thought. maybe there would be a chatter for a. long time. Seemingly put to bed. You. have about 30 seconds here, Shefty. What. do we need to know about tonight, Dallas. Cowboys Las Vegas Raiders? Well, Quinnen Williams makes his Cowboys. debut tonight. Demario Overshown comes. back tonight for the Dallas Cowboys. So, that's two big defensive additions. But. let's be honest, it's going to be an. emotional night for the Dallas Cowboys. This is the first game that they're. playing since they lost their teammate.

Marshon Kneeland. They come off the bye. It's not going to be the same without. him. He's going to be on everybody's. minds. They're going to be wearing a. helmet decal. They'll be wearing. t-shirts to honor and remember him. And. I would think that the Dallas Cowboys. will play an emotionally inspired game. this evening. >> Yeah, I think so, too. And anytime that. happens, obviously perspective gets put. into place as well quickly. Hopefully, they're able to find some positive out. of it all. We appreciate the hell out of. you. Ladies and gentlemen, Adam. Schefter. That was a great hit by Shefty. Yeah. I.

think that was really good hit by him. >> Oh, yeah. Nailed it. Dare I say his. No. Is that his best ever? No. A lot of. info. A lot of info. A lot of info. Hour. two on the other side with A.J. Hawk and. also Fernando Mendoza. Be a friend, tell. a friend something nice that might. change your life. But it is great to be down here in. T-Town, Alabama. Now, let's do a little history here, shall. we? This is uh what's your name? Gabby. Gabby, you're a senior here, right?

>> That's correct. >> And what is your major? Chemical. engineering. >> Okay. Okay. Uh have you ever kicked anything. before? No. Okay, but you said you want. to do it, not get somebody ELSE BECAUSE. BECAUSE I CAMPED out for so many hours. with my friend and I got lucky enough to. get picked. So, LET'S GO FOR IT. >> YES. YES. YES. WE LOVE THAT, GABBY. $300,000. if you make this kick right here, Gabby, okay?

That's not fair. I don't know what a. chemical engineering degree costs, but. hopefully that'll help towards it all. My parents would love that. Okay. >> I'll throw in 200 as well. He's throwing. it to 500,000 [screaming]. DOLLARS! >> [cheering]. >> ALL RIGHT, GABBY. OKAY. GOOD LUCK. WE'RE PULLING FOR YOU. 33. YARDS. All you got to do is make the. kick. Good luck, Gabby. Okay. Thank you. >> final thoughts? I love you, MOM AND DAD. >> [laughter]. >> LOVE THAT, MOM AND DAD. HOPE YOU HAVE A.

GOOD TIME. Ladies and gentlemen, Gabby Mathis, chemical engineer, senior. here at Alabama. WHAT A CHANCE TO WIN. 500,000. IT'S COME TO THIS, HUH? IT'S come to. this. >> [cheering]. >> It's come to this. Gabby, just watch you smack me in the. face. Kirk just smacked me in the face. How about this? How about this, Gabby? If Kirk Herbstreit can throw that. football through those uprights right. there, we'll give you $300,000.

>> [cheering]. >> Are you okay with that? $300,000 if Kirk Herbstreit can throw IT. THROUGH THOSE UPRIGHTS. FORMER OHIO. STATE QUARTERBACK. NO WARM-UP. FULL SUIT FOR GABBY. GET GABBY. GET GABBY. GET GABBY. WE GOT GUYS [laughter] IN THE BACK.

>> [cheering]. >> All right. It's getting even more pricey. Kirk. Herbstreit, I DID NOT KNOW YOU HAD THAT. IN YOU. You son of a [ __ ]. >> [laughter]. >> Gabby. Gabby, it's for you. Your mom, your. brother, the whole family. Congratulations, and Kirk, >> [cheering]. >> good on you, man.

It was close. Back to your roots. Jeez. Good job, Gabby. Hey, wait a moment. You. know what? I love the fact that Gabby. wanted the experience. You know what? Blue Eye Buckeye still. got a little zing in that. arm of his. So, The following program is a collection of. stooges talking about happenings in the. sports world. It is meant to be comedic. and informative. The opinions expressed. on this show do not necessarily reflect. the beliefs of their peers, their boss,

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I got pitched a lot of things when I was. back in Pittsburgh. A lot of things. A. lot of people back in Pittsburgh. I bet. Pitching a lot of ideas. And uh Shop 412's been doing our merch. for a long time. Haven't really, you. know, we haven't dove into the merch. world as much, you know, because we've. had issues in the past. >> Sure. People were paying an extra. 15, 20 bucks to get that thing in three. to four days. They're not getting it for. three to four weeks. Well, whose problem is that? Well, the. warehouse certainly doesn't give a [ __ ]. No, not at all. >> Hey, yeah, that's on you. Sorry about. it. So, all merch became was just a. bunch of emails telling me I'm the worst.

human of all time and that I'm stealing. their money. So, hey, enough with this. Yeah, if people end up at. store.patmcafee show.com, they end up. there. Like that that is what it's going. to be. We have stuff we appreciate. Shop. 412 boys are like, we want to take care. of this. What's a what's a what's what. is help you out. So, they pitched. this jacket. Mhm. Got us puffer jackets. this weekend. Ooh, love puffer jackets. >> Might need that. Hi. I don't think any. of it's available, so I should not be. wearing it, but it is all potential is. what they're saying. So, I I I like this. one cuz it's small, but it's not, you. know, It fits good. >> It's not squeezing you. Exactly. Which I.

could get right now. This is a large. Well, we're getting into the we're. getting into the character months. We're getting into the personality. months. >> No doubt about it. You know, it gets old. colder, maybe has a little different. food. Got to turn these jokes up. What's. that? Personality months, you know, you. got to make sure it's going up. >> saying something's got to be good. >> Yeah, exactly. >> Yeah. Starting to get a lot of. personality. Yeah, bingo. Yeah. And I'm. losing everything. Yeah, you can't have. both. >> Joining us now is a man who's the exact. same weight now that he was when he was. 21 years old. Brick. His frame has found.

that this is the right weight for him. forever. So, he's going to eat the exact. same amount of rice particles, the exact. same of dry, no flavor, bland ass chicken Boiled. every single day. And uh there's no. changing. No. And he's going to live forever. Yeah. He's college football national champion, Super Bowl champion, Rad Dudes Cup. winner. Ladies and gentlemen, A.J. Hawk. Hawker, most consistent human that I. know. How are you doing, buddy? >> [laughter].

>> Yeah, I don't know if that's true or. not. I'm not Danno. I know Danno, he. definitely eats a very, very clean. I. actually eat real food and still enjoy. it. Mhm. Okay. >> say that, but I don't think you do. What. A.J. What A.J.'s trying to say is, I'm. okay hanging around people that eat real. food. You know, cuz some of the weirdos. who are super healthy like really judge. and shame and cast, you know, a lot of. negative vibes whenever you're eating. delicious food around them and they. don't eat it. You're a person that. doesn't do that. You're like, yeah, we'll order from a place. What are you. guys getting? Oh, Burger King pizza, sweet. Hey, do you have.

>> chicken and do stuff like that? That's. what and that's your dough. That's what. that's why we're so impressed because. you don't want to bring down the party, but you do your thing. We are getting. into personality season, which is also. Toyotathon time. Even though we're. presented by Ram trucks, we understand. Toyotathon is about a month in football. that really matters. And there was five. headlines coming out of the Sunday slate. that we talked about. Number five was. the Bears are the kings of the north. Number four was Josh Allen is back. I. don't I don't saw Josh Allen. Did you. see him? Yes. Yes, That was uh that was. very fun to watch, for sure. Yeah, he's. outrageous, especially when it turns.

out. I think the last time he did this. it was in the snow, so maybe he's a. little bit more of a Buffalo football. game. Now he runs for three, throws for. three, and him and Auto Graham are the. only ones in history that have done it. Euro step, finger roll, Dion Dawkins. takes it home. I mean, they got sick. celebrations that are with their. teammates as well. Josh is special. He's. an alien. Number three headline was spit. date, okay? An investigation into the. soiling of the sport or the saliva, something along those lines. Soiling is. to defile or disrespect. Feels like. everybody in the sports community thinks.

this is too far and he can't do it, AJ. Yeah, spitting is definitely It's like a. I don't know. It's definitely a thing in. sports I think you learn at a very, very. young age like, "Hey, don't don't let. anyone spit on you, and you sure as hell. don't spit on anyone else." I just think. that's kind of like a Isn't Is that Am I. naive to think that's a thing you learn. when you're young? No, we all had the. exact same thoughts over here. You had. your thoughts over there. We got We got. people from Boston here, Iowa, north. left Canada, south right America, and south Florida,

Pittsburgh. We all agree the same thing. And I saw people even in New York. talking about wearing suits, talking. about it saying, "Hey, you just can't do. it." So, I think it's just kind of like. an understood thing. It's been happening. a little bit this season, though. D-Butt. said we got a little bit of an epidemic. happening right now. I wonder what that. could be from. >> Yeah, I don't know about AJ, but I. haven't been around too many instances, especially on a football field, where. people have actually spit on another. guy's face. If it If it has happened, it's one time it happened in college. with the guy who's still on the network.

on this network. We had some battles and. he spit on a teammate of mine. We had. some issues, but outside of that it. rarely happens. So, now this year I can. remember three instances now where it's. happened, so it's kind of a resurgence. almost. >> We don't like it. You don't like it. It. It would have been sweet if the ref, like an NHL ref, would have came in, saw. him spit on him, "Oh, oh, hey, back up, boys. Do your thing.". >> Let him go. Let the boys go. >> [laughter]. >> Let the boys go. All right, you spitter, ejected. You, 15-yard penalty, go ahead. and take your seat. It'd be interesting. because as soon as Jaylen throws a.

right, ref has to eject him. Okay? Like. that's kind of the rules. But as soon as. the spit happens, it should be the exact. same as what everybody that's ever. played the sport says. So, who knows if. the ref saw it or not, but it would have. been epic if the ref would have said, "All right, let me gather some. information here real quick. What. happened?" You know, like a cop on a. scene of a crime. >> [laughter]. >> "Spit on me right here. You see this? Spit on me right here." "Ooh, I do see. That looks like a loogie.". Did you spit on this man? Mhm. I didn't. spit. What's that? Spit on. Get the [ __ ] out of here. Had to be. evidence. Had to be evidence.

>> be evidence. That was a big loogie. Now, maybe he was just talking, though, and. he's a spitter, like Sergeant Slaughter. We all know Every once in a while I'll. even get some that'll come flying out. I. feel terrible to whoever I'm talking to. I'm like, "Ooh, you just ate something. right there, right on your forehead. Oh. my god, that's 100% on me." There's a. chance that that is Ja'Marr Chase's. defense. Like, "Hey, I was just talking. to him and I was saying the word P. pretty strong, so it looked like I was. biting my lips." But boy, that's a lot. of spit that ends up going to Jaylen. Ramsey right there, AJ. Yeah, it sure. is. I mean, I would imagine Ja'Marr I. know Ja'Marr said he didn't do it. I.

That has to be, right? Hey, I didn't. even realize it There wasn't a heat of. the moment. I had no clue what had even. happened. Here's what Ja'Marr Chase. said. So, just to clear, you did not spit on him. at all. Is that what you're saying? I. didn't spit on nobody. All right. Okay. Okay. >> Everything's being. filmed and I appreciate you denying till. you die if you're Ja'Marr Chase. They. said, you know, probable game. suspension, but we would like to let. everybody know this can't just become a. thing. Like this is not okay. We can't. just be starting fights in the middle of. everything whenever sports in between. the lines and in between the whistles is.

supposed to be something special. Yeah, this is sacred ground. You can turn. anything into a fight if you just want. to go spit on somebody's face. Yeah. Okay? Congratulations. >> think this is COVID's fault? You couldn't spit in general during. COVID and everyone just. acting out now? >> Yeah. Itching to spit. >> Yeah. That was interesting. What did you. dippers do? You guys had to swallow? Whenever you guys were chewing? [clears throat]. >> Yeah, I mean, you know, [laughter]. some some dippers like getting it just. in general, so that really wasn't that. big of a change. Um but but yeah, you're. kind of forced to. Exactly. The.

government kind of forced you guys to. swallow your chew. Exactly. I mean, there's a potential. potential. >> [laughter]. >> Yeah. There's a potential conversation. about that. But yeah, I mean, that is. basically what it is, right? We all We. all agree. You spit on somebody's face, it's a guaranteed fight. Yes. The ref. should have did a little more. investigating there because they were. standing there talking for 10, 15. seconds. >> the kerfuffle after the spit. Like all. both like 12 12 guys from each team got. involved. There was a lot of jersey. grabbing, so I assume the evidence got. wiped away. That's just just kind of.

what I was Well, it's probably on some. It's probably hanging on somebody's. Yeah, it's just dangling off their arm. >> Uh the number two headline was the. Chiefs is not the Chiefs? Question mark. is what I said. Exclamation point is. what D-Butt said. Anything for that, AJ? Yeah, I saw D-Butt with the exclamation. mark. I mean, I can't be that confident. to say they are not the Chiefs anymore. because I just started thinking, "What. if they start to go on a run? They win. three, four, five games in a row?" And. then what are we What's everyone going. to say? "It's not a team you want to see. in the playoffs. Don't let them get in. If they get in, they're going to make a.

run." Like I could see that still. possibly happening. >> Yeah, there's a chance they're the. Chiefs, right? That's That's basically. what we're saying. Nine straight. division titles. Is that what Schefter. said? So, it's hard to just imagine a. world where it doesn't happen for the. Chiefs. But boy, every time we watch. them on film, we think to ourself, That ain't the team. I'll die alone on. my island. I don't like that negative island that. you're on. I'm fine with that. Yeah, I'm not visiting that island. Come. on. Uh-uh. Good personality. It's good island. Good. personality.

>> [laughter]. >> Let's turn up the music. He's turning up the music. >> Yeah, okay. Well, I don't know if you're. the only one. There's a lot of people. loud on the internet calling the these. Chiefs frauds, you know? And I don't. think they ever came out and said. they're the Super Bowl champions. We all. have just said exactly what the truth. is. They're in the middle of a dynasty. That's what they are doing. They've. proven it. They've already accomplished. it. If it was the end right now, they. would say that was a dynasty. Now, is. that's what's happening right now? You're not saying for sure. I'm not saying I'm saying this season. I don't see the Chiefs making a run and.

being the Chiefs that we've seen. Super. Bowl odds, sportsbooks said, "We're not. falling for that shit.". >> [laughter]. >> Plus 800 still for Super Bowl odds. That's the third best odds in the entire. NFL between behind the Eagles and the. Rams, which actually goes to the number. one headline, the NFL's final play day. There was five games that ended on the. final play with kicks happening. Seven. teams came back to win after trailing in. the fourth quarter, both of those tying. an NFL record. It was special. Those. were the five headlines basically we. talked about. The things that we didn't. get to that need to be chatted about. D-Butt, what is something that we didn't.

talk about that certainly needs to be. recognized? >> Uh something the Chiefs have have had. throughout this dynasty. The Patriots. had it, too. It's a great scoring. defense, still top five in scoring. defense right now. But outside of the. Chiefs, who has like that championship. level defense right here? Four My four. my favorites defenses right now. Obviously, not only the defense, they. have great head coaches and also have. offenses I think that can get it done. The Broncos got to figure some things. out. But you look at some. characteristics from defense. You start. the Broncos. Just a violent defense, best third down defense, leading league.

in sacks by a wide, wide margin. Talent. from the front end all the way to the. back end with the secondary. And through. this little stretch, they've been. missing the reigning Defensive Player of. the Year with Patrick Surtain. So, when. he gets back in the lineup, they'll be. even better. And then the Philadelphia. Eagles, the reigning Super Bowl champs. Back-to-back week, they just held. offenses to seven and nine points in the. National Football League. That's tough. to do. And once again, from the first. level all the way to the back, they're. on the same accord. They fly around, they make tackles, they do a great job.

communicating, they do everything that. you want your defense to do. Then you. got to go out west, the Los Angeles. Rams. Violent, violent front four. Lead. the league in stunts right now and also. do a great job on the back end mixing. things up coverage-wise. Uh tying in with that pressure up front. and picking quarterbacks off. Sam. Darnold, who's kind of been on a great. run this season, he looked pretty shitty. against the Rams defense. It was a fight. for first place in that division, and. they picked on him four interceptions. against Sam Darnold the last time they. touched the field. And then the defense.

that's kind of flying under the radar. because of. how great Drake Maye and the offense is. doing is the New England Patriots. It. always starts in the trenches. I think. the best interior tandem with Milton. Williams and Christian Barmore in there, they're unbelievable. Then you got. Gonzo, a top-flight corner who can. follow the number one wide receiver. And. then you got a bunch of other guys who. just fly around and do their job. We. know what Vrabel is, the defensive mind. he is. He took more ownership of the. defense because uh the defensive. coordinator has been dealing with some.

health issues this year. They've been. great flying around. So, those defenses. I think in tandem with everything around. them, I think those are the championship. level defenses right. >> and how important they've been over the. last couple of years as opposed to maybe. in the past. So, obviously, this past. Super Bowl, both defenses were ranked in. the top five. In 2023, the year before. this past Super Bowl, both defenses. ranked in the top five. That had not. happened in back-to-back Super Bowls. since 1973, 1974. Is now becoming ever. more evident that you need to have a.

defense to be able to win the big one, AJ, in your eyes? And do you think there. are championship defenses kind of. separating themselves from the pack. right now? Yeah, I think some some teams. are definitely starting to separate. themselves and kind of feel they're. they're gaining their identity as a. defense. I mean, one defense we didn't. we left out, the Bears defense. They're. a little under the radar as well. I. think they're plus 16 in turnover. margin. Now, that also is because Caleb. I think only has four picks. With the. Bears D, they can take the ball away, which is huge. But yeah, you have to. have Like you're going to need your. defense at some point in the playoffs I. think to get a win. You're going to need.

a big stop. It's going to be some kind. of moment where your offense needs the. ball back, whatever it may be. You got. to get a turnover. You're going to have. to rely on your defense. I feel like at. least one of those playoff games or the. Super Bowl if you want to actually win. it. Isn't that interesting that, you. know, and when we talk about this with. the trenches all year with AQ Shipley, it's like if you want to win the Super. Bowl, okay, like be good, we got it. Like And this is kind of the question. about the Buffalo Bills. And we don't. want we don't want to you know, throw it. into the conversation especially with. how special yesterday was for Josh. Allen. But if you're going to want to.

win a Super Bowl, there's a couple. things you're going to need. Okay? Your. quarterback's going to have to make like. a 17-yard dot on the sideline at some. point. There's going to be a third and. 13 or a fourth and 13 that your. quarterback is going to have to be able. to just make a timing throw. Like that's. going to have to happen if you want to. win a Super Bowl. You're going to have. to be able to run the ball. Okay? You're. going to have to be able to run the ball. at some point if you want to win a Super. Bowl. You're going to have to close out. a game, clock at some point during the. playoff run into the into the Super Bowl. if you want to win. And you're going to. have to have a defense get a stop at an. opportunistic time. And seemingly,

there's some defenses that can't do it. and there are defenses that can do it. And if you want to win a Super Bowl, I. think a good thing to keep an eye on as. the season goes late is like which. defense can win a Super Bowl. That that. is it's not. >> Defense slash special teams now, especially this past week when you see. people when the kickoff the kickoff is. absolutely in play and has Yeah, it. might look like poop, but it has added a. key element to this game like that it. truly matters. I cannot wait to see in. the playoffs how this will affect the. outcome of game. >> Cuz you have to throw a strike. You. know, we chatted about it like being.

like baseball. Like hey, you got to get. out of game. You got to cover a kick. here. If you don't cover a kick, you. will lose. This happens to the Vikings. right here. In another game, I think. Bucker hit a kickoff short. I think it. didn't make it in there. So that ball is. at the 40. I mean I mean you're talking. about to your point. Yeah, defense and. special teams executing in big big. moments is going to be what takes. somebody to the Super Bowl and what. loses people in the playoffs, we think. And I think they're starting to separate. from each other. >> Yeah, and there are teams who have. shown, you know, early on here that they. just can't figure it out. Like, you.

know, they'll maybe take a field goal. lead with like a minute left and instead. of trying to put it in play, they just. kick it out of the back of the end zone. and that's still starting at the 35 and. then you're kind of playing soft. coverage cuz you you want to keep. everything in front of you then before. you know it the other team is in field. goal range with, you know, 20 seconds. left and it's like we're seeing a lot of. these field goal leads just not be safe. when years past. It's like a lot of. those times with a minute left, if you. don't have one of those elite. quarterbacks, you'd be thinking like, oh, we're good. We're going to we're. going to be in a good position. That. hasn't been the case this year.

>> Yeah, and the Indianapolis Colts didn't. play. So out of sight, out of mind, right? Yeah, good good good defense. All. Pro Mooney coming back. Sauce Gardner, he'll get acclimated. And since AJ. definitely mentioned the Bears who lead. the league in turnovers, the Packers. also a great great defense. Seahawks, a. very good defense as well. >> And wait, and so there was qualifiers. for the group. >> Texans. The Texans obviously missing a. quarterback. They you know, I don't see. that offense being competitive, but they. are the best defense in the league right. now. So those are the qualifiers that. kind of left them off that list. >> You heard what Schefter said about CJ. Stroud over there?

>> Yeah. Three weeks he's about to be out. for concussion? Well, and that's kind of. been the thing already, I guess with I. don't know if the the concussion. protocol has changed, but they've. basically said like, hey, a concussion. now, like a confirmed concussion is. basically a two-week injury. But. something must be real bad or. something's got to be going on if you're. going to be missing three games for it. Yeah, we hope CJ Stroud obviously. massive. It was a two two-sider that he. took for sure, but we hope he's okay. Honestly, we we genuinely hope he's. okay. The Texans were one of the games. that ended on its final play. Five of. them, AJ with walk-off kicks. And by the.

way, they made them all. The kickers made them all. Now, there. was eight missed extra points. Okay, there was some windy games. God damn. Okay, there was some windy windy games. and that's hey, once again, November, December in a lot of these cities, you. know, football cities, there's a change. in weather. And what changes the. weather? Oh, the wind has to bring it. in. You see, I don't know much about how. it all works, but I did grow up in a. town where DeNardo was the weatherman. Okay? So I basically get it. And what I. need to say is for something to be.

really hot and then really cold, something's going to have to blow that. [ __ ] and it's wind. And boy, some of. these cities, their weather's always. changing. It seemingly never stop and. something's always on the way. Okay? That is why there's no sun. And that. thing that's on the way is being brought. there by. They were showing those kicks. Man. >> Last night pregame, those things were. blowing a full upright. That thing was. blowing a full upright from one side to. the other. And then whenever you think.

about the other games are taking. Cleveland, yeah, right. It wasn't really. being chatted about as a national. storyline. Obviously, that entire. storyline is Dylan Gabriel gets a. concussion. Shedeur Sanders comes in. It. doesn't go great. Did you know that. backup quarterbacks don't get a lot of. reps during the week, AJ? Uh yes, I I I. guess I'm surprised to know that. everyone assumed that everyone gets. equal reps. Yes, I Yes, I knew and. assumed that number one quarterbacks. take every single rep. >> Yes, we're trying to get as good as. possible with what we're about to field. out here. So every rep literally counts.

Now, should they have been viewing who. is starter differently? You can. certainly argue that, but the entire. hey, the backup quarterback's in a bad. spot because it's not his offense. Yeah. That that's. >> spot. It's a very tough spot. That's why. you get thrust into the game, yeah. >> Yeah, that's why Kind of the point. It. sucks. Yeah, it's a very [laughter]. difficult job. That's why these backup. quarterbacks have jobs for a long time. cuz they're able to make every read, so. they're able to give a good look to the. defense. They're able to make every. single throw. They're able to understand. the offense. They're normally good.

politicians, too, in a locker room. Good. mediator between starting quarterback, quarterback room and rest of locker. room. I mean, a backup quarterback has a. lot of jobs trying to make the starting. quarterback better. That is what the. backup quarterback is to do. >> Schefter said eyes on the sideline. Homework assignment. >> Hey, will you go check out this film, third and long with this team? Is there. any tells that the corner does or the. safety has or there's any lineup? Like. that's a backup quarterback's job in the. NFL. Now, I don't know how they're. handling it with two rookies because. Shedeur is obviously trying to figure it. all out as he goes. So him trying to do.

a homework assignment for somebody else. who also has to try to figure it out, I. don't know what that kind of. relationship is. But the backup. quarterback job isn't like getting reps. in practice. That The reps they're. getting as as Lamar Jackson. He He is. going against the defense. He's. operating Baltimore's offense. So. whenever you see a backup quarterback. come in and ball, know that yes, that is. very impressive. Everybody who's. surprised. And the only real upside is. that the defense doesn't know you. Like. the defense doesn't really know your. team knows you much more than the other.

team, but it's not your offense. It's. not something you've repped. It's not. like your cadence. None of it is. You. You're doing somebody else's. Now, if he. was to be the starter this week, this is his team now. All of a sudden in. a meeting. >> Much more prepared. He'll be much more. prepared. Yes. Yes, and on that note, we. can't wait to watch. Yeah. Like I I am. very excited to watch if he is starting. Starts with protections. Absolutely. >> That's the start. That's the biggest. thing and AQ can obviously speak to that. much more than I can, but you got to be. able to protect and pick them out. And. you could tell as soon as Shedeur came.

in the game and even with Dylan, but as. soon as you get a rookie in there, like. you're bringing all the blitzes. You're. bringing the wrap-arounds. You're. bringing the stunts. You're bringing. You're bringing disguise coverages. because you just want to make him have. to figure out as much as possible. Usually what helps backup quarterbacks, you mentioned it, you don't have a book. on them or they can use like mobility or. something to kind of just go off script. and do that. But when you don't have. that against a defense like this in week. 12 right now, like this defense has been. talking and communicating and scheming. [ __ ] up all season long. So it's a tough. spot to be in for anybody. Hopefully he.

figures that out. We'll see how it go. how it is going forward. Shedeur rookie, okay? So obviously what is Dylan Gabriel. is as well. And the Cleveland Browns. offense has been what it's been. But do. we believe in the Ravens defense again? Cuz remember, they were asked long time. Do Do we Do we Do we believe in the. Ravens? Have they got to a place where. we think maybe championship defense. alongside if they're able to go on a. run? I'm not there yet. No way. I think. they can get there. I think they're. good. I I think they can get there. First, Kyle Hamilton also got screwed. out of a college fumble. They blew the. whistle on him. It bounced out of. bounds. It didn't matter, but we got to.

hold the whistle for a second when we. have a guy held up. Please. Please, this. is on purpose right now. Like what what. you're seeing is a skill and a talent. This is not some just, oh, we're making. the game ugly. Like no, magic's about to. happen. This is taught, repped, and. schemed for big brain football. Let's. not blow it dead. Let's get some people. with whistles that maybe have a little. sense. Yeah. Little feel. Like the. Arizona guy. Oh, Trey McBride. Okay. Okay, Trey McBride obviously deserves. the penalty in that entire situation. Makes a huge catch. Can't do it. Can't.

do it. Woah. Woah, can't do it. Huge. catch. Runs a guy over. Massive moment. Jacoby 47 receptions. He talks about it. BAM! AND FIRST DOWN! THIS GUY SAYS, YOU. KIDDING ME? HEY, YOU HE FOLDED HIS HANDS. HEY! HEY! HEY! HEY! HEY, GET BACK HERE! YOU KNOW YOU CAN'T DO THAT. WHAT I DID? You know you can't do that. Show me what I did. He throws his hands. He's saying he holstered the gun. He. holstered the the gun. Is that what. you're saying? Show him. Show him. I. believe they're talking I believe yeah, the ref will let us know what.

>> But then here. Oh, never mind. No, it's it's this one, I think, brother. Yeah, you can't. >> That's all it's all that. That's all. because of that. Well, you cuz you know, the people used to say, we like to. party. We like this. We like We like to. party. We like to party. I believe that. is why that is not allowed, you know, because I think it has something to do. with getting energy throughout an. evening in a bad way. I want to see that. in the rule book then. I want to see. that in the if he gets a fine, I need to. see that typed out. >> CD Lamb has done this twice. This is. kind of his thing. He's done it twice. this year. They gave him a penalty both.

times. And then I guess the reaction of. CD was like, jeez. >> [laughter]. >> Guess I can't do it. You guys are really. doing this? So he hasn't done That was. like his thing. That was like legitimately his thing in. its entirety. Trey McBride immediately. after this will get into a scuffle, get. punched in the face, and everything. else. Penalty only on him, nobody else. >> Yep. That was quite a scene there, but. obviously the refs are trying to get. some things out of the game. I did see. maybe a couple double barrels happening. in other places. They did not call that. I'm like, okay, let the boys have their. fun. Let the boys have their fun. Never. forget whenever they started cracking.

down on the gun celebration. There was. like a D3 college one where team was. down 24 points or something like that. Old buddy pass breakup, puts the seat. belt on, strapped him up. Then he lifts. up his shirt, pulls his gun out of. pants, >> [laughter]. >> shoots guy in back multiple times, puts. gun back in pants, puts it down, ref. throws a flag. You what? What did I do? Can't do that. That was great play. That was great play. What are you. talking about? Yeah. Shot him right in.

the back of his head, too. >> [laughter]. >> Dillon Stewart over Jackson Dart live. here. Yep. Everybody in football is like, all. right. >> Yeah, that's too much. We get what. you're trying to do. We get what you're. trying to do. Let's Let's move along. here. Pittsburgh Steelers get a huge win. here. AJ Hawk, obviously Aaron Rodgers'. wrist is a big topic OF CONVERSATION. MOUNT WASHINGTON, Darnell Washington out. of Georgia, 6'7, 300 and whatever. pounds, tight end who can also operate.

as a tackle, who can throw YOU FROM THE. MONONGAHELA TO THE ALLEGHENY AND THEN. RUN YOU OVER LIKE THE OHIO. THAT'S MOUNT. WASHINGTON THERE. NOW, this guy I was a. big fan of whenever he was at Georgia. Obviously, he was behind Brock Bowers. But we had the opportunity to be on the. field for a couple different Georgia. games. And whenever this dude walks by. you, go holy [ __ ] What can this What. can this guy do? He can catch, he can. run, he can block, he can do it all. Remember whenever they said his knees. were bad, though? His knees might be. bad. He's 6'7, 320, and he's running.

like this. Yeah, I'm assuming his knees. aren't perfect. >> [laughter]. >> There's a chance that he's mentally. tougher than you, though, and can battle. through it. Special talent they got up. there in Pittsburgh, and I like the fact. that Ardy and Aaron Love it as just as. much as us, it feels like. Look at Gino Stone. First I mean, Gino. Stone I guess could have tried to go. low, but right here I give I give old. Turner credit for trying to punch that. ball out, knowing how big of he is, and. he's just rumbling down the sidelines. looking to kill somebody. I mean, you. have no chance. Gino Stone, I guess.

yeah, you could probably go low, you. have to, but right here Oh my god. No bad that would hurt. >> Cuz cuz Gino Yeah, but you go low, though. Yeah. You got to go low. I didn't have a chance with that guy. What's he listed What's he listed at? Like 270? Right there he's listed. He ain't 200 nothing. Is he listed at. 270? Let me see his Cuz we saw him in. training camp. He was about to jump him. He was he was. about to jump him, honestly. 260? Okay. So they have Watkins was about to jump. the last one. He really was. Yeah, I. think. Watkins whipped his knee towards the end.

of this last one. He's going to go. He was about to jump him. As a big man, you know how many times people try to. saw him off at his knee. I'm assuming. he's got a good leap. I'm assuming. there's a good a well-timed jump over, which would be special to see this large. of a human flying through the sky. But. him just getting the rock is awesome. You know, we chitchat about this. Pittsburgh Steelers offense whenever. they're doing well, they would have an. extra offensive lineman in. It wasn't. actually an extra offensive lineman, it. just looked like it. It was him. He was. being used as an extra offensive. lineman. He's a road grader, this guy.

So not only does he have the capability. of doing this, and not only is he. unguardable cuz he's 6'7 and this big, it's like he's a massive piece of. protection for Aaron and for them. running the ball. The Pittsburgh. Steelers prove anything to us yesterday, AJ Hawk? Did they prove anything to you? And ultimately, we'll ask Tone if they. proved anything to the Pittsburgh fan. base. Yeah, I mean, I think it's having. Mason Rudolph there that he is a that is. a big benefit to I mean, I know I think. they Tone has definitely questioned over. the years why they have kept this guy. around. Well, this is why, because he.

can step in and help you win a football. game. Now, I don't know how bad Aaron's. wrist is. Luckily, it's his left wrist, and I don't know how bad that would have. to be to keep you out for multiple weeks. if it's your off hand, you know, your. non-throwing hand. I'm not sure how it. works, but yeah, Mason Rudolph, the. Steelers I think they definitely have a. chance. Yeah, and Aaron, we know this. Not a lot of people think this about. Aaron. And by a lot of people, I know. the people that just aren't fans of his. like he does view himself as old-school. tough quarterback. Like that is how he. views himself. That is how he likes to. operate. I think he's proven that. There.

was a game in London where he got. scorpioned. Like Baker Mayfield kind of scorpioned. himself yesterday. But like he got. scorpioned, and then like I think there. was a turnover the next play. He goes. back on the field like he barely walk as. nobody or somebody has already four-time. MVP, already everything like that. Like. Aaron takes a lot of pride in being a. tough guy, even though people don't. really give him credit in that. So to. AJ's point right there, and that's AJ. who's either talked directly to Aaron. and [ __ ] talked to him or not, he said,

in his non-throwing arm if you're going. to miss multiple games, I don't think. so. That that's AJ talking [ __ ] to Aaron. through our show right now, but Aaron. also is feeling the exact same way. >> Yeah, I mean, there was the the Bears. game to start the season probably like. six years ago, and he had he like hurt. his knee bad, and you know, a lot of. people were saying like hey, this could. be like a several week deal, but it was. the opening night, it was Sunday night. football, so he got all shot up, came. out and basically played the second half. on one leg, and just stuff like that. Really outside of the like the few times.

where he broke his collarbone with the. Packers, like he was dinged up a decent. amount, but yeah, he I mean, if if he. can go, he's going. He's not missing. games. Yeah, last year in Green Bay, didn't he break his throwing thumb? And. he was still playing through a broken. thumb, and that's like a situation where. hey, your play is going to look so bad. that people are going to start saying. that you've lost it and everything. So. if this if this is in his left hand, it's almost like a hey, I play for. Pittsburgh, so I got to show these. Pittsburgh people how tough I am, not. just say how tough I am, and I feel like.

this is a great time for him to show. that. >> He wanted to go back out. >> Yeah. Which is hilarious. No way, dude. What are you talking about? We don't. even really know. Yeah, I'll go back out. there. Just because that's ingrained in. who he is. It's a different generation. here now. Hey. One of the last of a dying breed here in. the NFL, and he'll go out on his shield. He will. He will go out on his shield. That's important, though. That left that. left wrist, ball security. Brace. yourself when you're falling like Put. the club on it. What if he puts the club. on it? He somehow finds [laughter] a way. to handle the ball with a club.

>> once again, this is him talking [ __ ]. With just his little fingy sticking out. of the club, though. Just a couple. fingies out. >> has to [laughter] still and put glove, tape the glove on him. >> Yeah, there you go. So that there is. sticky on it, you know, and just. absolutely do it. But there is so many. pieces of life as a quarterback that is. your off hand. And ball handling is like a massive part. of his game, too. He'll figure it out. Hey, AJ, thumb, tape it up, right? Put. Tylenol on it. I think he will. Yeah, rub rub some dirt on it, tape a few. Tylenol or Advil to your skin.

>> Yeah, good luck. We are we're pulling. for you. Now, let's talk about the. midnight mode being able to exist more. than just one day. Rams, Seahawks. NFC West thriller. We are all pumped up. about what this game could be. Sam. Darnold MVP-like season. Matthew. Stafford MVP-like season. Seahawks way. ahead of schedule. Rams, how are you. guys still this good with everything. that you've done? Two different. storylines coming into the game, and. what we found out was midnight mode.

lives on. Davante Adams still. unguardable down on the goal line. One. team has the tush push. A lot of hanky-panky with the tush push. Quite a bit. They're playing a little. handsy, Daire. They're in the neutral [clears throat]. zone playing handsy. And then there was that going on. Tush. push obviously does what it does, but. Davante Adams down there is just as. effective as the tush push. Because they. have Puka Nacua, and because they have. 14 tight ends, it seems like, and. because they have multiple backs that. are incredible. Tyron's unbelievable, seemingly. What Cuz of all the weapons.

they have, Davante, they have to go. one-on-one with him. They have to go. one-on-one with him. No no no help. So. it's just Davante one-on-one with a. corner down the goal line. That's a. guarantee. This is just like when. Gronkowski was with the New England. Patriots. They would flank out Rob. Gronkowski. If it was one-on-one, who. cares what this play call was? Go ahead, Gronky. Do what you got to do. And then Gronk would just cook, and he. was wide open. Same thing for Davante. Davante just. One of these, I'm going that way. Boom, one of those, I'm going this way. And.

then if you're good, DB, could be great. This is your second or third DB. If he. could be a great athlete, and he gets. them both, Davante will somehow no hands. hit you with one of those, and then he's. gone. Houdini. He's out of nowhere, and. that's a touchdown. And Matthew. Stafford's not missing. Like he's not. going to miss one of these. opportunities. He's phenomenal, they're. phenomenal, and their punter might have. had the best play of the entire damn. game. Ethan Evans, we've seen this guy. squat I think like 600 pounds and [ __ ]. all over his Instagram. And when he. needed it, fourth quarter, up two, need.

a long field for Sam Darnold. He's. thrown four picks, but he could get hot. Picture perfect end-over-end coffin. corner. So he literally did both here. He did the new school and the old. school. Less than two minutes in the. fourth quarter. Ethan Evans, let's. [ __ ] go, buddy. That's huge for the brand. 42 is still. an interesting number, but giving them. giving them at least 60 yards, 50, 60. yards. Jason Myers ends up missing a. 61-yard field goal, ends up pushing it.

right, and it maybe even a little bit. short. But if that's even at the five or. the 10, which is be considered a good. kick, a good pooch kick, that's a whole. different ballgame. Huge huge out of. Ethan Evans and the Los Angeles Rams. And we talk about offense being able to. go. We talk about defense being able to. go. And clearly, teams able to go, too, Daire. Yeah, with how cagey this match. was, this was this was huge. Rarely do. you say like a game-winning punt, but. this was as close as it'll get. Obviously, the defense has to go out. there and get some stops and do their. job as well. But this is huge when.

you're setting your defense up and. setting that opposing offense up where. they have to go the length of the field. That that's a big-time play. I mean, unbelievable execution. I thought that. was one of the best plays of the day. yesterday. >> Yeah, I like I like the way we're. talking about I like the way we're. talking about these punts. We like big. old punts we can on live. Ain't that. right, AJ? We do. I think we're people. maybe some casuals are seeing how. important special team play is, especially like down the stretch when. games truly matter. Like this is this is. a game-defining play right here. Like. you're going to point to this as one of. the reasons they won. Yeah, and Sean.

McVay's going to give him a game ball. He certainly earned it. Go ahead. What. are the rules right there for the punt. return? I know it's Rashid Shaheed, been. there a couple weeks now, but once it. like putting the heels on a certain yard. line and letting it go? Like what what. what are they being taught? >> to the beginning there. Where's the line. of scrimmage? Line of scrimmage is the. 49. So, he was at about like the eight, I would say, seven or eight. Used to be. the 10, but now cuz guys are getting. better and better at it all. You seven. or eight yard line. If it's in front of. you, we catch it. If it's behind you, you try to distract or block. And then if it goes out of bounds at the.

one, you just kind of look at everybody. [laughter] and say, "Wow, that was. pretty damn good ball.". That was pretty damn good ball right. there. So, yeah. My goal every time we. were down in that area there, I was. trying to uh hit it to like the eight. yard line, seven yard line. Guaranteed. fair catch, basically, cuz that's where. they're standing. And if you hit it a. little bit further, you might have a. chance to be able to steal one inside. the five. A little bit shorter, probably. fair catch at the 10, which is. considered a success. There's some guys. though that go for it. Like there's guys. that go for it on a regular basis. I. think Ethan was going for this cuz he. hit it very far. So, I appreciate him. doing that. Now, granted, if that's a.

touchback, that comes out to the 20. It's a. So, it's like kind of a give-and-take. There's risk assessment happening at. basically all times whenever you're. going out there. Okay, do I need to hit. this thing 37 yards or do I need to. maybe go for this, maybe hit it 39. yards? I hit this 39 yards, there's a. chance we get a good bounce. Ooh. Also. chance we get a shite bounce. You know, cuz that thing obviously you're trying. to get a better luck for the bounce so. you can hit a slow. back spinner. So, you hope that thing. will check up, but there's a chance that. hits the point and shoots straight in. the end zone. So, it's not like a 100%er.

that that thing's going to check up. perfectly. So, shout out to Ethan. Shout. out to the Rams and shout out to their. fans that bought those jerseys. Could never wear it again, you know, if. you lose. Right? Now you can rock it. As. a punter, do you know right away when. it's coming off your foot like, "Okay, this one this has a chance." Or is he. waiting kind of waiting to see where it. lands? Like can you see the rotation on. the ball like, "Okay, if this lands, you. know, not in the end zone, this thing is. going to check up.". >> has a slower rotation, better chance. it's not going to go into the end zone.

Okay. Slower rotation though, harder to. control how far it goes. So, if you see. that thing spinning pretty slow or if it. if it starts turn a little sideways, Mhm. that thing turns sideways in the. air, it's like, "Ooh. Okay, now we got a. chance for the sideways bounce and that. whole thing." Once again though, there's. a there's a everything kind of is a. give-and-take. Harder to control. distance whenever you have a slower. rotation or side spin. Now, are you try. with the slower rotation, is that less. leg speed or is that not a drop of the. ball? >> Yeah, leg drop of the ball. Yeah, he. dropped the ball. >> drop it to try to make it bounce.

sideways out of bounds? Like do you ever. drop it like that? >> so there's a banana ball that guys are. Beautiful, baby Duke. This is nice baby Duke here. So, you. know, the Aussies brought this one into. here, you know, kind of end-over-end. punt. And you can swing hard and it. won't go as far and it would seemingly. like a kickoff go higher. Fair catch. machine or if it hits the ground, you. get a chance for this thing to kick up. Now, cuz it's spinning backwards like. this, you see, there's always a chance. that that thing hits and boom boom boom.

This is an all oblong ball. You can't. control this thing perfectly, but the. slower it goes, you see, the longer it. is where? On its flatter sides. You see? So, then there's a chance that it. catches up for you. The issue is to hit. it a little bit slower, you got to tilt. that thing like that, which shrinks the. size of the sweet spot. So, now you're. potentially hitting a [ __ ] ball. So, whenever you get both, you're in a good. spot. The banana ball now, this is. something that the Aussies do that I'm. very very impressed with. I think they. do it since their birth, you know, I. think they do it shout. So, there's. sometimes where you're getting a a kick.

to kind of potentially pull it through. to the big post there to get it there. And you got to turn that son [ __ ]. sideways. So, they have this like banana. ball that they start hitting that like. kind of turns it sideways and their ball. is bigger bigger sweet spot. So, then. Johnny Hekker, I think, started doing it. back in the day because he was a real. town. And then for me, I'd potentially. hit that thing seven yards. >> Yeah. Okay. Okay. But if I hit it far enough, that. thing was coming down, it was spinning. and it was coming down like in a. kind of like a Australian.

>> boomerang. boomerang. Okay. That thing's. coming down, tough to catch and then. when it hits the ground, it's going. sideways. So, you know, the banana ball. really changed the game. I think guys. have much more control with it, but this. bad boy right here is what everybody. want to as opposed to coffin cornering. everything because you got guys running. 4-3s off the edge now. So, you got a lot. of guys coming off the edge that are. like 4-4, 4-5 and they're all like 6-2, 6-3. So, they understand that if they. block a punt, going to win the game, probably. So, they started really taking. out a lot more soon. So, the coffin.

corner, guys used to just like take the. snap and then they would just like walk. They would have nothing. There would be. like no pressure, basically, and they. would walk that thing sideways and they. would hit it out of bounds. This is. really good. It's like nowadays, they're. they short corner. They are they are. they are trying to get you right there. So, this one just became a quick Let's. go ahead and pull in the middle and. let's kind of handle it. There is also. uh punt blocks that basically they're. telling everybody that they're preparing. for the fake. Okay? So, if they keep the starting. defense on the field and they go punt.

safe and everybody on there is screaming. it. Their sideline. and everybody on the field is saying, "Safe safe safe safe safe." They're. telling the other team, "Hey, you guys are going to have to punt. this." MCDC says, "I don't care.". >> [laughter]. >> [ __ ] that, man. I'm running, man. I'm. running it. Did you see what happened. last time? >> not. They run snap to the PP. The. starting defense for the Philadelphia. Eagles are on is on the field. It was. very evident that literally everybody in. Philly was like, "Safe safe safe safe.".

Telling the Detroit Lions, "Hey, you. what you're not right Look AT HOW MANY. GUYS THEY GOT IN THE BOX right there. >> [laughter]. >> THEY'RE LITERALLY JUST THAT IS LITERALLY. the punt safe. >> Very rare. I think it's called. everywhere, right? >> Yeah. Punt safe. Oh, yeah. And the only. thing punt safe is AJ, you I guess you'd. be able to talk to this as well, is just. make the make sure the punt gets off, right? That's basically the only thing. punt safe. >> Edge rushers edge rushers force the. punt. Force him to get rid of that. thing. Everybody else fake. Everybody. else waiting for fake. >> Yeah. You sub the free safety out for. punt returners so they can field the. punt, but that everything else is just, "Hey, we got one, you got two." It's.

just regular defense. And literally. everybody on the field is saying it. Like I know punter, I know when punt. safe is happening on the other side. It's like, "Okay, this is great news. Okay, we just come out here. They're not. going to We can't fake anything, but. also probably not a lot of heat here. And our guys aren't going to be able to. get down as fast because of the hold up. that is about to take place. So, I can. kind of take my sweet ass time here and. hit a good ball. Let our gunners kind of. do our thing because guess what the. corners aren't doing? They're not. getting a holding call. They're not. getting anything like that. They're.

actually probably letting the guys go.". >> Yeah, a lot of times you look at that. clip, you see the corners, they're. backed off cuz once again, you're trying. to play that fake. So, we want to kind. of see everything. You don't want your. back to the ball and just throw a fake. ball. So, Literally the corners are like. off down here at the bottom. Pressed up. top. Don't let a fake happen. That is. all we are out here for. That is. literally this entire thing. So, I was. kind of confused by that. THEY'RE COMING. AFTER MCDC today. Yeah, I mean, they. were trying everything. It was a tough. day on fourth down for the Lions. Okay? Oh for five on trying to convert, oh for. six if you count the fake punt. They had.

to try it all because I'll tell you. what, this Eagles defense is absolutely. incredible. The best defense I've seen. the Lions play under them MCDC era. Okay, so you play the best defense that. you've seen and you put your special. teamers in there and try to get a yard. [laughter]. They let the guys though. Get gone the hell out of here. This. guy's got two gloves on. It's cold. Can't play. >> Whenever you see that. Uh it's not a. good Yeah, I don't I don't love this. unless that's your normal gimmick. That's your Teddy Two Gloves or.

somebody. >> Kurt Warner got into it. Roethlisberger. got into it like He's always done it in. cold games for what it's worth. >> Don't love it. >> Peyton got into it late in the season. >> Yeah. But it's cuz he couldn't feel the. leather one. >> He had nerve damage. Hands feel. different. He had nerve damage. Had to. get into it. Yeah. >> [laughter]. >> It's got its reasons. But anyways, what. we're saying is a lot of decisions out. of the Lions that I think we all go, "That's kind of a head-scratcher." But. in the end, if they don't get screwed. over with a pass interference That's. right. AND WIN THE GAME. >> Defense gave them a chance. Lions had a. [ __ ] Your offense or your team goes for.

it six times on fourth down, you don't. get it, you still hold a team any team. to what, 16 points? Like that's that's. impressive outing for a defense. >> do this. [ __ ]. >> You can't do it. Can't do it. Now, which. part do you think they called it on? Just so I can get mad at the right guy. >> left hand. Grab the left hand. That's. what they called on it there at the very. end. At the end? Watch. Boom. I don't. think this is I think it's a terrible. call, but I think right there they. called it because he's holding that left. wrist. Look at it. He's got eyes on it, too. That That guy's got eyes on it. What did he throw it? Let's not judge. these refs on a few bad calls that they.

certainly made this weekend and we need. to not see anymore. Yeah, especially on. third down, less than two minutes left. in the game. Huge game, primetime game. You're not the show. We're here to watch. the show. Get the hell out of the way. On that note, we appreciate your service. to ball. >> [applause]. >> AJ didn't clap. AJ hates refs. Don't. [laughter] care. That is how AJ I didn't. see AJ Brown even crying for the call or. pleading for the call. You know that's. the situation like when that's the case, you know it's probably a rough call. Well, ladies and gentlemen, let's pivot. away from the NFL and the refs trying. their best, need you to be better in big.

moments, but trying their absolute best. Let's pivot to college football. Any award that kind of puts you in the. folklore of history, the Heisman. And uh who would have thought. that there's a man playing quarterback. for the Indiana Hoosier football team. >> Hell yeah. that is currently the. frontrunner. Fresh off a game in which he was 22 of. 24 for 299 yards and four touchdowns. >> Pretty efficient. Wow. Well, it's not. just that game. It's every game. Go back. last week, maybe the catch of the year,

maybe the drive of the year. And that's. not the only one. There's four fourth. quarter comebacks to win the game led by. this man. Ladies and gentlemen, it's not just. Fernando Mendoza. It's potentially. Heismendoza. >> [applause]. >> I know, brother. What's up, guys? Hey, what's going on? How are you, brother? Life good? Is this what you imagined it. was going to be whenever you decided to. transfer from Cal to Kurt Cignetti's.

Indiana Hoosier team? Is this what you. all envisioned together because watching. you has been very special this season, brother. Thank you so much. First of all, thank. you guys so much for having me on the. show. Yeah, I would say it's been a. whirlwind. It's been crazy and I can't. thank Hoosier Nation enough for. welcoming me in. Mr. McAfee, I know your. wife, Mrs. McAfee, is a Hoosier, so. shout out to her. Hoosier Nation has. been incredible to me. Coach Cignetti. has been incredible to me and it's just. been It's been a journey. Like you said, we've had a ton of fourth quarter. comebacks this year, but I mean, it's. only been because we have such great.

guys in the locker room and it's been an. amazing journey so far. Okay, so. whenever you're getting pitched and sold. to come to different schools, I assume, you know, cuz this is the way college. football is, especially with an. incredibly talented quarterback like. yourself with the special year you guys. had at Cal. What did Cignetti sell you. on? Because his idea, I think, of. winning is like, "Hey, I want to find. the guys that maybe still have a lot of. room to grow." He wants to coach up. He. wants accountability. Was that something. that drew you to Indiana or what. specifically was the reason for why you. picked the Hoosiers? We're all very. thankful, including my bride, obviously.

Yeah, I would say you hit the nail right. on the head. Indiana and Coach Cignetti. really sold me on becoming the best. Fernando Mendoza possible. And also, I. have I have my little brother here, Alberto Mendoza. I was able to get the. good, the bad, the ugly of the. situation. The transfer nowadays is like. speed dating. And there's a couple of. the blue bloods in the mix, but with the. way I saw Alberto develop and Coach. Cignetti really sold me on, "Hey, I. don't know exactly I don't have a. crystal ball. I don't know what's going. to happen with this season, but I. promise you if you come to my school.

instead of the other schools, you're. going to be the best Fernando Mendoza. quarterback that you can become." And at. that point, I was sold. I'm like, "Let's. go. Ready to be a Hoosier." Hell yeah. We love that. Good sell, Sig. Good sell, Sig. Go ahead, AJ. Yeah, Fernando, you obviously you seem. to be so like very mature and really. squared away, as they say, and have like. the the right things on your radar. Is. there any like players around the. country in college or NFL quarterbacks. that you might lean on that you talk to. or that you even try to model your game. after? Yeah, there's there's a ton of. quarterbacks across I mean, past,

present, and even in the future in. college that I look and watch their. film. Past, I would say Tom Brady, that's my guy. I grew up watching him. He's my football idol. My parents are. are my are my character model and idol, but Tom Brady, that's my football idol. Funny enough, I was actually able to. talk to Daniel Jones, my fellow Indiana. quarterback, this past week. And. actually the Wisconsin game, I got a I. got a little bit of black eye here. Nothing compared cuz I was trying to be. like him and get the bloody mouth and. stuff, >> [laughter]. >> but wasn't able to. But I was able to. talk to him and I've been able to talk.

to some great people throughout this. crazy season, so I'm actually really. been thankful for it all. Yeah, I think. a lot of people probably want to talk to. you, brother. Let's go back to the throw. with Omar Cooper Jr. And well, the catch. and that entire drive. You guys get. sacked on the first play of that drive. Must have got to have it. As you're. throwing, obviously, through the. entirety of the drive, you're. dot dot dot dot dot. And then the throw. to Omar Cooper Jr. here. What are your. thoughts? You're throwing this to the. crossbar only where you get where your. guy can get it. What is going through.

your mind before you let this one go? And after you see the replay, what do. you say immediately to Mr. Omar Cooper. Jr.? I mean, catch of the year. That guy. literally saved us the game. What a. fantastic catch. What a fantastic play. For sure the best catch this season. And. when we first stepped out on the field, you hear Mo Bamba rocking. It feels I. mean, you feel the stadium pulse. Everyone says Beaver Stadium's loud and. you we really felt it on the field. And. overcoming the sack on the first play, everybody bouncing back, great. resilience throughout the drive, great.

protection by the O-line, great catches. by all the receivers, tight ends. And. then we have the catch of the year at. the end. I I know Omar, you know, he. played basketball. He's from Indiana, so. he has that basketball background. I. just try to put it up there, so he could. either get it like an alley-oop dunk or. a rebound. And and he did it. At first, I thought cuz usually you see the back. foot always go down first and then then. the foot closer, but he like somehow. levitated his foot to have like this. imaginary cushion, which I still believe. is God. All the glory to God. And. [laughter] then his other foot tapped.

like not even on the white, but like. tapped a little grass. And then we have. our offensive captain, Pat Coogan, after. cuz everyone's going crazy, just. pointing at the spot and telling the. ref, "He's in. He's in.". I mean, I thought we had to go back out. for fourth down, but when it once I saw. the replay and Coach Cignetti waved his. arms in the air, I was like, "Let's go.". >> Yeah. Yes, yes, yes. Don't sue me. Don't. sue me. No, you're good. You're good. You're good. You're good, Mendoza. Believe me, we've already got a few of. those. I will say amen to you about the. act of God cuz it does feel like.

something special is taking place up. there. And the Penn State people, Mo. Bamba, they're thinking, "Our life's. already hard enough. Now you got catch. of the year at the end of this." This. guy's defying actual reality and. physics. It was special. And your team. has been special. This Indiana run has. been special. But you guys have been. banged up like a lot of different teams. Go ahead, Tone. >> Yeah, Fernando, Elijah Sarratt, your. All-Big Ten wide receiver, he's been out. the last few. But you've had someone emerge. Charlie. Becker, he had seven catches for 157. yards the whole season until the last.

two games he's had 12 for 226. back-to-back 100-yard games. So how big. is that going to be when you have. Sarratt, Cooper, and now Becker for the. playoff run that you're getting another. weapon in the offense? As a quarterback, it's such a luxury to. play with such great receivers. Elijah, they call him Waffle House, the man. Omar Cooper, who we just saw catch of. the year. EJ Williams, fantastic. receiver. And now Charlie Becker. Charlie's actually, funny enough, he's. actually my roommate. And he's up My. Alberto's a nice roommate and it's great. to see him out there making catches. He.

had a great catch that actually got a. little superseded by Omar's catch, the. catch before. He had a great fade ball, little back shoulder high point catch in. Penn State. And I just think it speaks. to the culture that we have here at. Indiana. It's always the next man up. mentality. It's always supporting each. other. Elijah is the main guy on the. sideline coaching our other receivers. up, motivating them, along with all. everybody else that's banged up. So I. would say it's a really strong culture. we got here and not only are we winning. and it's great all that we're 11 and 0, but it's even better that we're doing it. with great people and great teammates. >> Yeah, it feels like you guys are doing.

it all right down there and we. appreciate the hell out of the way. Cignetti operates. And obviously, buy-in. can come in many different forms. Sig's. not scared to run his mouth a little. bit. Go ahead, Con Man. >> Yeah, Fernando, it's an honor to talk to. you a month before you win the Heisman. But when it comes to the week's. preparation after a game like that where. you go, you know, 22 of 24 without your. number one receiver to Tony's. points, like what does Sig say to you to. kind of keep you motivated, to keep you. kind of on edge? Is he talking [ __ ] to.

you? We see him, you know, going into. halftime giving interviews. They're. hilarious every single time. It's great. watching him operate. But what is he. like on the day-to-day to kind of keep. you guys all locked in because it is so. much, you know, praise from the outside. in? Yeah, Coach Cignetti, coming from that. saving tree, he really uses and coins. the term rat poison. He really makes. sure to keep you never keep you. complacent and always keep you hungry. Coach Sig is always pushing us at. practice. If we had if we've had a. sloppy practice on the offensive side, you'll you'll hear about it. You'll hear.

about it and I think he does a great job. motivating us. Not only when we're up, but also when we're down. For example, after the Oregon during the Oregon game, I threw a pick-six to tie the game and I. Oregon at that time they're the number. three team in the nation. He came up to. me and he said, "Let's have some fun. You're you're like you're good." And at. that point, it really made self made. myself go in the present moment, come to. a little zen moment. And I was and we. were able to lead the game-winning drive. and score a touchdown. So Coach Cignetti. not only has, you know, the hard-ass mentality that he's always. going to keep us hungry and keep us away.

from the rat poison, but he also knows. when to motivate us. For example, like. Wisconsin at halftime. Yeah, before what. was that? Two weeks ago, Penn State. You. have any concerns? Nah, it's game day. >> [laughter]. >> Do you have any other questions? What. are we talking about here? Excuse me. Excuse me. Excuse me. To come into his. own and to come into national prominence. this late in his coaching career almost. feels like it's perfect time for it. He's already been callous. He's already. had to win a bunch of different ways. And whenever he sells somebody, it's. obviously believable. Now let's talk. about you, the player. Go ahead, Deebo.

>> Yeah, I played with some very different. quarterbacks throughout my career. Tom. Brady, Cam Newton, Andrew Luck. They all. had very different pregame routines and. different leadership styles. What Do you. have any quirky things or anything you. have to do specifically to get ready for. a game? And what would you say is like. your leadership style as a quarterback? Yeah, that's a great question. I would. say on game day, I always make sure to. pray my not I always make sure to do my. daily meditation, 10 minutes to zone in. And I always make sure to watch daily. mass on the day of the game. And.

leadership style, I mean, we have so. many great leaders in the team across. the team. So when I first got here in. Bloomington, I'm not only able to learn. from great leadership from coaches like. Coach Cignetti, Coach Shanahan, and. Coach Wimber. I'm also able to learn. from great from a great team last year. We have All-American linebacker Aiden. Fisher. I can go on and on about all. these different guys and great leaders. they are. So I'm able to pick and choose. and to see, you know, what attributes. can I take and help elevate the. leadership on our team, which is already. has a fantastic culture that I could. help us, you know, take us to that next. next level. And I would say a couple.

other things are, you know, quirky. I. think it's really good about being one. of the guys. You know, we try to go out. to dinner every single week on. Thursdays. We always do team Bible. study. And so having really that. camaraderie with the guys instead of. just, you know, just being teammates, it's different. Cuz we really are. brothers. And so whenever let's say if I. set Becker up on a pass, he gets blown. up. It's not like, "Man, I should I. should have not thrown that. I got him. blown up." It's like, "That's my boy. That's my dog." Like. I don't want to get him blown up cuz. that's my brother. So I think the. camaraderie that that we have within the.

locker room and the leadership not from. just the quarterback front, but from all. fronts is overwhelming and has really. helped this team this season. In the. name of the Padre, et Fili, et Spiritu. Sancto. Sancto. >> [laughter]. >> That's what I think I just heard the. Mendoza guy. Let's talk about you, the human, a. little bit here. I've learned through your story about. your mom having MS and how you're. raising money to combat against MS. Obviously, you and your brother are the. first pair brothers to throw a touchdown. in the same game.

I think the second pair in like 10 years. or something like that to accomplish. that feat, but you two and your mom. very, very close. Obviously, you've had. to learn about MS through that her. battle. Now, you're raising money for. others. Can you talk about that a little. bit here and we appreciate you spreading. the news and spreading awareness about. this. Yeah, so my mom is my light, my. inspiration. When I had no offers coming. out of high school, she was, "Hey, stay. keep on praying. It's going to come.". And everything that she's basically told. me that's going to come to light has. always She's my inspiration and my.

positive hope. To see her fight multiple. sclerosis, whenever, you know, she's. fighting and having a hard day, it gives. myself no excuse if I have a bad. practice, if I have a bad lift, to not. study and watch more film cuz she is my. why and I do it for her. And just to. have the opportunity and platform to. raise more awareness for her in order. to, you know, partner with the National. MS Society in order to raise awareness. and to give money to people who can't. afford the treatments, the multiple. sclerosis treatments cuz there's no cure. at this point, it's truly special and it. really kind of gives myself a bigger. view of why I'm playing football. And.

keep doing it, brother. You're going, dude. >> [applause]. >> Right now, you can buy the burger down. at Buffalo Wild Wings in Bloomington and. it'll all proceeds will go to the MS. Society. Last year, a Cal raised $11,000. through that, plus there's a donation. site where we can all chime in. We. definitely will do that to support your. cause. Good luck on the Heisman run. You've certainly warranted the case from. our angle. You're the man. Thank you for. what you're doing for our state, brother. Thank you, guys, so much. God bless. Go. Hoosiers. Thank you for having me on the. program. Appreciate it. You're the man.

I heard program there. You dropped it. well, Fernando Mendoza. Hey, Fernando. Tell your brother we said, "What's up?". as well. All right, as we wrap up here. on ESPN and continue digitally, I can't. help but say that kid's a good one, man. Draft that guy now. >> Kid's a good one. Let's go through some. stats real quick. Uh three. fourth-quarter game-winning drives on. the road this year. He leads the FBS in. passing touchdowns and touchdowns. responsible for and points responsible. for. Uh he's the only FBS quarterback. with 30 touchdown passes this season.

And uh obviously, him and his brother. were the first ones to throw a TD pass. in the same game since Arkansas in 2015. This guy's special. Special, special. Only quarterback in the last 20 years to. have three games of 90% completion. percentage with four touchdown passes. Fernando Mendoza ball. We continue on. the other side. See you tomorrow. Got it. in. Yep. He did. That was the worst. I. knew one of these stats was the best one. and I didn't get it for the first three. ones. There was only four on there. So, I didn't know it was that [laughter]. one. At least 20 seasons, he's the only. quarterback. three games of 90% completion percentage.

and four touchdown passes. So, 90%. completion is not just like 10 balls. that we're doing. No, it's like 90%. completion and we got four touchdowns. out there. It's on my shoulders, basically. He's special, that team's. special. And boy, it feels like. Siganetti can eyeball. talent. It feels like he knows exactly. what you need. That's a huge part of the. entire process. Everybody's talking. about the transfer portal, NIL, you can. flip your team. It's like, if you get. the right guys. It feels like Sig has an. eye for the right guy. >> Yeah, you got to evaluate your talent.

and on this level, everybody's going to. have great talent, but it's about. getting the right guys. And him saying. and remembering what Sig said to him, man. You you know, as a kid, uh. especially in this environment when. you're talking to so many different. coaches at so many different times, you. can kind of pick up on when people are. bullshitting you. So, him saying like, "Hey, you're going to come here and. you're going to be the best version of. yourself. I don't have a crystal ball. I. can't tell you you're going to be a. starter and we're going to do this, that, and the third, but you're going to. be the best version of yourself as a. quarterback." And obviously, we see it, you know, coming to fruition right in. front of our eyes. Yeah, I I appreciate.

that Sig's doing that for our state. Mhm. It's so awesome. It is very cool. And you know, the basketball team's. going to be good again, too, with. DeVries. But I'll say DeVries left. a school that might be a next. powerhouse. Who's that? Drake? West. Virginia University. Oh. >> He was there for a year. Oh, yeah. Yeah, that was good year. Wasn't a good year. He set the He set the foundation, didn't. he? Remember the North Carolina guy. screwing West Virginia. That's how I. remember. >> Yeah, Bubba, the athletic director, happy we got him. Stepping stone to get. to No, see that's a Woah. What?

Congratulations, coach. I want to let. you know that new coach there, Mr. >> Russ Hodge. He is Russ Hodge. Good ball. coach. >> Yeah, Russ Hodge. Can't wait to see. where he ends up. Russ Hodge, yep. Just. cuz it's the same number of letters as. new guy. Where he's going to end up? Yeah, hopefully Big East or something. >> No. Good program. He is where he ends. up. He's at West Virginia. I'll have you. know, West Virginia smacking ass all over the. place, just beating the hell out of. people. Really? Beating the hell out of. people all [laughter] over town. West. Virginia basketball dominant, bopping. wood all over the place. They're They're.

going to be And yesterday, just landed. biggest recruit in the history of WEST. VIRGINIA. WHAT? WOW. SEVEN STAR, they. said. This guy. >> [laughter]. >> Miles Sadler, number 23 ranked player in. the Sports Center next top 100. It's the. It's the best recruit we've ever gotten. in our lives in the history of West. Virginia. Oh, seen Seen this. Modern era. No, he's not from West Virginia. Didn't. you guys get a top five last year? Then a guy left. >> Oh, and then he Oh, and then he didn't. end up going. DeVries is the guy left. This guy says, "I want to be a part of.

the next generation, the next era." And. by the way, that era is starting right. now. The boys who I don't know yet came. on the team. They gave a They They were asked at the. press conference like, "Hey, what did. you want to do? Why did you want to win. this game?" or whatever. They said cuz. they had Pitt on their jerseys. It's. like, "Boys, Yeah. Like that. >> Boys, It's awesome. >> I like what we're doing right now. And. then I guess we are hell. I mean, we are. the Cleveland Browns defense in. Cleveland. I guess that is our team and then we. fill it up as well. We beat the [ __ ] out. of Pitt. I mean, just beat the hell out. of Pitt. I think our West Virginia.

basketball team. national champs. Don't look down. And. then also, No, I'm not going to give it. away. No, no, go ahead. Nope, now's not. the time. I would say, just as I'm not. even playing devil's advocate, just. proceed with caution. A lot of things. going out there about Pitt this weekend. having maybe one of like the worst. weekends in the history of Pitt. Believe. the basketball team got beat by a D3. powerhouse as well. >> The women's did. That was the women's. Wasn't the women's? Either way, that's. not good. That's not good. Can't be. doing that. But West Virginia Strand's a. damn good They are. They are. Obviously,

West Virginia women's, you know, massive. melee. They had like seven girls get. ejected. They only had five girls. Beat. Duke. Exactly. Massive upset. The men's. WVU basketball team, what do you want? Yeah. >> The women's WVU basketball team, actually, what do you want? >> Yeah, bingo. >> Like actually throwing f- ejected only. had five players left. Wow. Whole second half. When losing when. they started with five. This is against Duke, not a bad team. Mhm. And they end up winning the game.

Maybe the most impressive feat that has. happened in college sports in some time. That's the West Virginia women's team. The West Virginia men's team's bopping. wood all over the place. They're They're. going to be a tough out. Football. program. Back, should have beat Arizona. State. Rich Rod's pissed once we lose to. Arizona State. Can't get a yard seven, eight different. times. If you can't get. a [ __ ] yard. I He said that to the press conference, obviously, to the media. And they asked. a couple different times what the. problem was and he just basically every.

single time. said, "This is what our problem is." I. couldn't even imagine what that team. meeting was like. Oh, my goodness. So, then Imagine if you're an assistant. coach, too, Pat. Sorry. Imagine. assistant He He mentioned coaching. multiple times. Well, that's that's him. saying, Yeah, that's him. Yeah, it's on. me. That's on me and I hired you. So, that's on all of us. That's on you, too. Yeah, waste the laundry detergent. Yeah, I thought you were going to be tough. That's what I thought. And then in. there, you know, him just doing this. This being the yardage needed, the. amount needed. Just add them. Hey, yep,

there it is. Size of a yard. He did. this. It looks like it's a good 7, 8 in. If I had to guess. 6'7, 6'7. And it's. the entire thing. But him doing this. right now, that is setting the tone for. the entire week. Remember those hills we. ran where you guys were puking all over. yourselves? Had to get somebody an IV to. the hospital. Remember those workouts we. were doing? It all came down to it. This. is why, okay? Because of this. Now, he. has reason. That's Big 12 champs, Arizona State.

Yeah. You know, that's Big 12. Not that. they're having Big 12 championship. They. were in the playoffs last year, though. And our team, full rebuild, freshman. quarterback, full new locker room. We. should have beat them. That's Rich Rod's. entire press conference. They beat us. Congrats to them and Dillingham and. everything like that. But he thinks we. should have won that game. He thinks we. are arriving at the point of where we're. trying to be as a program. And then this. offseason, he's going to hit the. transfer portal. He's going to be able. to get guys that can buy into what it. is, knows what they have, what they. don't have. Feels like we're in a really. good spot. So,

football doing great. Hoops doing great. I think our soccer. teams, both of them are in there. Rifle, obviously. Little Rifle, obviously, national. champs. Baseball, we sell out stadium. I. think we do good in the Big 12. >> Yeah, went to the super regionals. So, now the worry is Wren Baker, the. athletic director. You know, and don't say it. You said. stepping. Don't do it. Well, he's a. North Texas guy and he hired a North. Texas basketball coach. So, they're. going to go somewhere together. Is that. what Darius is saying? There's great athletic directors. available out there for the jobs that. need athletic directors. Wren Baker's.

just fine. High profile one. Probably going to be. coming up here pretty soon. AD? West Virginia's already It's already. taken. Baylor. West Virginia's already taken. He's. going somewhere else in the Big 12. Much. better. Thank you. Than Baylor? Yeah. It's a private school. Who's going to pay him more? Hey, listen. Let's not worry about any of. that. Let's just Let's just talk about. how what it is and where we're at. >> Different down there in Texas, though. You guys are in a good spot. I agree. Good spot. Thank you. Highest recruit in the history of.

basketball. just yesterday. Yeah, it's hold on. way. he's What will. He's committed. He's committed. That's. good. He'll stay. Biggest recruit. biggest recruit in the history of. basketball just yesterday. What will tomorrow bring? Who knows? Let's take a break. We'll be back on the. other side making our picks for the. Monday Night Football game, Dallas. Cowboys versus Las Vegas Raiders. We'll. also talk about every other sports story. that's happening around the sports.

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>> [music]. >> They all commit and love what's going on.

that weight room. They all commit and. love what Jim Harbaugh is preaching and. everybody in the building is happy. Everybody is like excited to be there. It is infectious they got going on. >> [music]. >> And how many owners are spending $300. million. on a new facility just for the practice. facility?

But then for them to do it upright for. the last couple of years, it's like. Look out for the Chargers, dude. Look. out for the Chargers. I love the high five. Yeah, give me each other A HIGH FIVE.

>> [laughter]. >> THAT IS INCREDIBLE.

>> [laughter]. [music]. >> HE TRIED TO give a handshake to that. particular high five trophy. Did break. the hand off. We had to put it back on.

We have so much respect for you. >> [laughter]. >> I mean, wow, it looks like a lot of. highlights against one particular team. Imposing our will.

I love that Chargers team even more now. If you were to touch this grass, it. would feel as if the history [music] of. football was kind of one with your soul, one with your ball team. And then you. look at the views, the San. Gabriel mountains with the cotton candy. clouds, the way the sun will rise and. then the sun will set and as the sun is. setting tonight, there's going to be a.

football game taking place. You're. talking about movie stuff. What do you. think it is about your team in that. locker room and why do you think you. guys have [music] been able to show up. every week? >> You know, I think the buy-in on our team. is unbelievable. We talk about a. player-led team. I think a lot of people. say that, but so rarely do you actually. see it. Two Goliath Big Ten teams, what. a magical match-up here in the Rose Bowl. and watching Ohio [music] State do what. they did to Tennessee, it felt good for. the North. It did it felt good for the. ball. >> [music].

[laughter]. >> All parties and all agree that it's in. the best interest of everybody, public. safety, that we close the home game. for 24 hours. Hello, beautiful people and welcome to. beautiful Pasadena, California, the.

granddaddy of them all, the 111th. Rose Bowl. Which [music] will be taking place on. the most beautiful field in the history. of football. The Oregon Ducks who are. the Big Ten [music] champs will take on. the Ohio State Buckeyes. >> [music]. >> The college football playoff is. obviously in the middle of a transition. era, but we go back in time into a. movie-like setting to battle in the Big. Ten to see who gets to move on and who.

goes home. Same exact play action. Drops it off to. Jeremiah Smith with space. Jeremiah Smith.

first touches a touchdown. Time to shout out the door. Touchdown. Takes a shot. And what happens? Jeremiah. Smith comes up with the ball. Hand off. Runs to the left. Jordan Jackson. Well, how. >> [groaning and screaming]. >> Well, Howard. Touchdown.

Ohio State is kicking the living [ __ ]. out of the Oregon Ducks. If Jeremiah. Smith is on your team, I think you can. win every game. TreVeyon Henderson. He's at the 30, the 20, THE 10, TOUCHDOWN. THEY CAN RUN IT, THEY can spin it, they can kick it. This Buckeyes team is playing football. at a level nobody else in the country is. playing right now.

Jeremiah Smith is on the field. So, that's another first down. That's. why this game has been absolutely. shite. >> [screaming]. >> That is so beautiful. You got Matt Hardy. on THE LEFT THERE. >> [laughter].

>> UNFORTUNATELY, MY YOUNGEST SON PUKED ALL. OVER HIMSELF, went to the hospital, so. my whole family's not here anymore to. hear that. But I'm getting some updates every once. in a while. He seems to be doing not. much better. He puked over the whole section. Instant urgent care, instant hospital. What type of shite was he eating? Is. someone making salmon down here? We came. down here and it. Look at this. For those that have never been here, I. would recommend coming and checking it. out. Although, this particular game was.

absolute. shite. Hey. White. Lights. Go. This show stinks [cheering]. and the fact that you listen, we are. very, very thankful.

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FOOTBALL. I JUST GOT THIS IN MY HAND, AJ, and I just immediately wanted to go. hurt. That's AJ Hawk. We'll obviously. have BAs incredible cadence tomorrow. The toxic table is here at Boston Connor. and at Ty Schmidt. One half OF THE. HAMMER. DONE. Cowboys AP tone. Steelers. can win a Super Bowl? Yeah. >> [laughter]. >> Is that overreaction Monday or is that. how Tone feels? Kind of how town feels. And it is [laughter]. overreaction Monday as well. But now the. defense feels like it's getting better. each week.

And the offense? Uh they're fine, especially with Mason under under. center. Especially. Well, we don't know. if that's the case cuz Aaron Rodgers. going to want to fight through this to. play, I think. Yeah, but it's not his. decision. It's Mason's decision. >> [laughter]. >> Sounds like. Is you're you're thinking. Mason's walking in there and telling the. doctors what's Well, everyone wanted to. come back in yesterday, but Mason's out. there just slinging it all over the. yard, so. What did Mason What did Mason do. yesterday? I believe he was 12 of 16 for. almost 200 yards in a half, so.

I don't know. >> [laughter]. >> Aaron Rodgers, if he can play, you have. Aaron Rodgers a quarterback for the Yes, you do, but in all honesty, uh the last. few games, um. he's been get It feels like the rush is. getting him to him a bit, like even when. it's not there, it feels like he thinks it's there. And Mason hasn't been getting hit all. year, so he's What are you saying? I'm. just talking about the game of football. and what I'm seeing with these eyes, okay? Is this all of Pittsburgh you're. speaking for or is this just yourself?

>> know, to be honest. I haven't called. back home today to see. I haven't called. back home to see how the Yinzers feel. about it all. Certainly pumped up about. a win seed against Joe Flacco. Certainly pumped up about something. happening great there in Pittsburgh over. a great weekend of celebrating. Pittsburgh. That was crazy at the. University of Pittsburgh, Pitt. And like. it's worst sporting weekend it's had. On the weekend where everything was. being celebrated about city of. Pittsburgh, it's kind of crazy. That's. unfortunate. Good Notre Dame, too. Yeah. Great.

>> Great Scranton women's basketball team. Yep. Great WVU. men's basketball team. The women's. volleyball team that they played against. very good as well. But on that note, Jeremiah Love is just different. You. know, he he is literally just different. I think we're going to be talking to him. on this particular program at some. point. I enjoy his personality. I enjoy. who he is. I like how he just seemingly. is very transparent and authentic and. very good. What was happening at the. beginning of the season? Yeah, incredible movie-like spin move. I'm. happy I'm happy that they put that in.

slow motion. He wasn't getting the ball. at the beginning of the season. Is that. what was happening? Do we remember that? Against Miami for sure. Uh I can't. remember the carries or whatever, but. there was a lot of the questions about. it, but they have they have found uh. their role with him for now. Yeah, wasn't the role already found out last. year? This is what this is. Now granted, they. got Price too, I think, who's also a. great runner. back and I assume there's. a lot of conversation about him. potentially maybe playing somewhere. else, so maybe you have to like kind of. figure that whole thing out. But it's. like this dude's a real deal and he's, you know, they talk about Jonathan. Taylor and the MVP odds and everything.

like that. It's like Jeremiah Love. conversation for the Heisman should. certainly at least peak a little bit of. interest at some point. >> Yeah, it felt like early on it was the. big time like, "Hey, this CJ Carr kid. doesn't know how to play quarterback. If. we just put eight guys in the box and. try and stop Jeremiah Love, we'll beat. the the Irish." And then CJ Carr after. those two losses got very, very, very. hot and he is very good and everyone. knows it now. And now that's opened up. the middle the middle just a little bit, just enough for him. I was a big time, "Yeah, right. Notre Dame makes the. playoffs." guy beginning of season.

Sure. Then you watch Texas A&M kind of. do what Texas A&M What a game. Mhm. >> Yeah. What a game they had. >> Insane. Hey now, obviously not good to. have any of that on tape if you're Texas. A&M. Not good at all that you see that. But the fact that Elko now knows that. his boys can come back whenever they're. down 27 at halftime. I mean, that's a. great little piece of history for your. team to lean on during hard times in the. future, which are certainly going to. come. Did you lose faith in this Texas.

A&M team? I think we all did, but were. you worried about them being completely. not what we thought they were whenever. they were getting their asses beat by. South Carolina, AJ? I was a little bit. I'm not going to lie. I almost sent a. text in to the group like, "Oh, something about A&M." Nothing like but. just saying like, "Wow, this is going to. How's this change the landscape of. college football?" And then I just. continued to watch the game. I said, "Oh, these guys are actually going to do. this." And it wasn't like it wasn't one. of those comebacks where it's like. everything completely fell into place. They had a huge turnover on their own. red zone when they were going in. I know.

later in the game, too. Like they had to. continue to fight till the very end. It. wasn't like it was a very impressive. I. think ultimately this will be great for. their football team, the fact they had. to win like this. D but tell me a little. bit about the conversation of them. playing like ass, how should they be. ranked? And then them having such a huge. comeback, how should that be ranked and. viewed? Because in my eyes, and I don't. think I'm. I don't think I'm the only one that. views this way, but I've learned that. not everybody views this way. Like the. tough, close, hard wins, I think are. like vital to your team. But I guess. there's some people that are like, "Why.

would you have a tough close game. against South Carolina if you're Texas. A&M?" It builds character. I've heard some coaches say they like. sometimes when they lose in the season. Kind of humbles, kind of get hitting. them up and you check yourself, you. check your ego. But we saw with Indiana. when they had to come back and that that. that play we talked about Omar Cooper. like, "But this is callous." And on all. these championship seasons or. championship runs, we saw it last year. with Ohio State. They lost to Michigan, lost earlier in the year to Oregon. You. have those things you learn from it, you. build from it. Nobody has I mean, LSU. had a really dominant season. That Miami.

Hurricanes team where it was like if. their defense only scored, you would. still won, you know, 10, 11 games, but. you rarely see that on a college or NFL. level. So, you learn from these moments. I'm sure Mike Elko likes this moment cuz. now you see how your team is going to. respond when their back is against the. wall. And now if you're in this moment. two, three, four, five weeks from now. and you're sitting down a couple scores. in the fourth quarter, you know, "Hey, we got the guys that can get back in. it." No panic going forward, you would. assume from Texas A&M. Not that they had. it before, but much like you said there,

AJ, I actually did put a tweet out. "Is. everything all right?" I was like cuz I. didn't have it on one of the quad boxes, South Carolina, Texas A&M. I apologize, there's a couple other games. I don't. know about this one. And then I just see. the score and I think GUMPY GOES, "WOAH!". AND I GO, "WHAT?" It was like I think. 20-something at the time or whatever. And then it got even worse. He was like, "Even worse for Elko." I'm like, "What?". He goes, "30 to 3 at halftime. Wow. Maybe Texas A&M's a bunch of Muppets.".

You know, starts turning a little bit. cuz that looked bad bad. >> Very bad. So then I I literally just. sent out a, "Hey, is everything all. right here? Like what what is Is. everybody sick? Like what is happening? This is not who you were at all." And. then by the end of the game, he got to. go ahead and update, "Yeah, oh it's. good, I guess, yeah. Largest comeback in. Texas A&M history." Shout out to the SEC. network putting this graphic out, but. yeah, all's even better than good. It's. like now they're super tested. Not that. you need to be super tested and that. scared about situations happening, but I. think that builds a lot of character. I.

think that builds a lot of togetherness. as well. Coaches and players alike Yeah, SEC teams were 0 and 286 when down by 27. points. Now it's 1 and 286. I did see a. lot of people say if it wasn't for that. sheriff telling Nick Harbor, "GET YOUR. [ __ ] ASS BACK ON THE FIELD." after he. scored that touchdown. There was a boy. at the end of that. I I didn't want to I. didn't want to say that. Maybe maybe the. loudest "Bo!" at the end of that thing. If I had to guess, just kind of.

I wanted to place myself in that tunnel. just to see, "Okay, so when when old. buddy decided, 'NOT ON MY FIELD.'" Like. what was that first Down so many points. touchdown walks by. Like is is it immediate, "This is my land." Is that the immediate. thought? And then when he turns and sees. him down the tunnel, "They. ain't got I'm protecting this tunnel. They ain't doing nothing on field, you. ain't doing it." And then thinks to. himself, "I need to let them know that. this ain't how it goes." Cuz you know, obviously they super slow mo'd it like. they have everything. It clearly extends.

out to hit them both. This is just like. And why do YOU NEED TO GET DOWN THAT. TUNNEL at that exact time? A lot of. people have questions. Let's say you. weren't trying to hit them. All places. to go, they were in my way. Why were. they in the tunnel? They're supposed to. be on the field, he potentially says. It's like, "Well, why did you. intentionally hit them then as opposed. to not try and walk around them?" It's a. tight tunnel, you have no awareness. There's really no defense, you know, for. the entirety of it all. And I do. appreciate like there's no out. And him. walking back and following him, "Yeah, I. wasn't going anywhere. I WAS I WAS. COMING to hit you." I thought he was.

going to draw down on him potentially. MHM. GET DOWN ON THE [ __ ] GROUND. RIGHT NOW! RIGHT NOW! AT LEAST TASER. MAYBE. THERE'S FOUR OF THEM. He He. realized in the middle of that tunnel. once he had made contact with both of. them. Boom, he might be outwitted, out-bashed, outmanned, outgunned in that. entire thing. And the guy that he kind. of just like very, you know, like the. guy who he actually makes more contact. with, he's not he's not the problem. It's it's the other guy who kind of just. got in his way a little bit. Like he. didn't You can see he he really You! Yeah. He's the one who scored a. touchdown. They got 6'5" 245. Yeah, you!

You! You in my tunnel! You scored a touchdown, you stay on the. field. I do love how swiftly he was relieved of. duty. Was it before the game was even over? Oh. yeah, right then. That officer has been. kicked out. He's He didn't see the. comeback. He missed the whole comeback. It's an active Twitter account they run. over there, too, the Texas A&M police. department or whatever. That was that. was one refresh. Saw it. Oh, that looks. terrible. That can't be real. Nope, that's real. Woah. And that feels.

aggressive for this time of life and. everything that we're in right now. Obviously everything's on camera, brother. Why would Why would you even. That can't be real. And Nope, it is. real. Oh, everybody's talking about it. Yep, as he should be. This is. Next slide. His ass has been [ __ ] fired. All. right. >> [laughter]. >> Okay. Just so So we all saw this the same way, it seems like. Everybody literally was. on the same exact page and. I would like to say from my experience. down at Texas A&M, these people love. ball. These people love ball. Now, I.

don't think they should love ball enough. where a trooper goes down a tunnel to. start a fight with after players who. just scored a touchdown ball, but Texas. A&M, good team, great football town. Great football town. That was a crazy. scene to see there, though. Georgia. beats the hell out of Texas. Yikes. Just beat the hell out of They're. starting again. Kirby likes his guys, man. Kirby seems. to have a good thing going there. He I. think these players are obviously bought. in, but man, they. I like what Georgia's doing. There was a. quote coming out of Kirby talking about. how people just want to check, you know,

these days. Yeah, they're going to want. physicality, too. You're going to have. to want physicality cuz we're going to. hit you and I you'll get a check as. well, but you are going to have to hit. This defense was questioned at the. beginning of season. They don't get the. quarterback. The stats are nowhere near. what it used to be. They don't have the. same exact type of defense that they. used to have. So, everybody thinks. they're having a down year, which maybe. they were for a while. Seems like. they're coming into their own at the. right time, D-Butt, which is what you. were alluding to. Absolutely. And. winning at home, like they protect his. home field. Now, when is the last last. time they've been beaten? That's been a. what, how many years? Yeah. >> Alabama game. But before that one. Yeah,

they had a 33-game run. Okay, yeah, yeah, so it's going to be tough to beat. them at home, especially at this point. in the season. And whenever you're. questioning a coach like Kirby Smart, like the toughness or like the defense, like that's when you you're going to. check that team and you're going to get. you're going to get their best foot. forward. So, Texas, they got hit in the. mouth. I know some people are still. trying to carry Texas' water. Say, "Well, three-loss team get to playoff.". No. No. No, you blew it. And on the flip side of. that, Georgia and the boys, they took. care of business, man. I like I like. this team how they're playing right now. >> I like Hunter Stockton a lot. He's got a.

great boxing. Okay, let's pivot away. from college ball here very quickly and. let's go to the NFL. Ladies and. gentlemen, the man that dawned the. midnight mode, okay? A dude who's an. absolute dog. A man who will not stop. until success happens. Puka Nacua is. here. All right, dude. What up, Oos? What up, Oos? Hey, thank. you for joining us, Oos. Big day for. those midnight modes. We thought you. guys were never going to be able to talk. about them again if you lost. Instead, massive win. How do you feel? How do the. boys feel? How do the Rams feel right.

now? Man, it was good just play the boys got. out to sauna this morning. I see my dog. BY and Verse in here. The dogs are. barking yesterday. So, it was good to. see them boys out moving around this. morning. But I gave my jersey away to. Coop, so I'm like I got one in exchange. So, I'm like I I don't know if I'll have. the midnight one hung up in a frame, but. I'll have a Cooper Kupp jersey. So, I'm. not mad about that. >> Okay, let's talk about you and Cooper. Kupp's relationship. Obviously, he was. mentor type guy in the wide receiver. room for you. Now, you have become the. one. You have become the guy the.

defenses think about and fixate on, which obviously opens up a lot for every. other weapon that's on that offense, including Davante. Can you tell me a. little bit about your relationship with. Davante Adams and is he stoppable? Down. on the goal line, feels like that's a. [ __ ]. layup. An actual layup at this point. No, literally. And I'm like his. celebration, he kind of messed it up. because we were supposed to do some like. LeBron like Dwyane like alley-oop type. thing. We had the we had the hoop set up. for the celebration and he didn't even. dunk it. So, I'm like the photos look. great. We got our rookie month being a.

little basketball hoop holding his arms. and he didn't even dunk it, but it. pretty much is unstoppable. Like we get. inside the 10-yard line, it's like, all. right, you probably should throw seven. people at number 17. Tell me about Stafford a little bit. He. is. he's. His beard looks phenomenal. The midnight. mode feels great. He looks younger than. ever and then Tone actually pointed out. yesterday, this guy's got massive. calves. I I don't think anybody's talked. about the size of Matthew Stafford's. calves until yesterday he was. photographed with these things exposed.

and there's vascularity down there and. great girth. We're talking girth and. vascularity on those calves, Puka. >> [laughter]. >> That's why the keeper game works so. well. I'm like he's got freaking. quads on his freaking calves. Look at. those things right like if I had those. things, I could run and put my foot in. the ground instantly. 20-yard dig. routes, speed coming. >> [laughter]. >> Tell me about Stafford though. He's. spinning it, it feels like. Is he. getting even better other than just his. calves? Oh my gosh, like the the calmness and. like his ability just to to have the.

precedence to move his arm angles and to. understand where the defense is and I. mean the thing the the thing we say in. meetings is don't look at my eyes. Don't. look at my eyes. So, I think it's so. funny because it happens every day. during the week and then when it comes. on Sunday, it's like it's even better. than what we see on Thursday. God, AJ, what a catch, Puka. Yeah, Puka, how how. fun is it to watch your defense when you. guys after your offense get a touchdown, you go sit on the bench, get a drink, go. over everything. Are you guys watching. your defense like as a fan because I. know as a fan of football watching your. defense play, especially the front. seven, everybody, all three levels, they.

are rolling and they I don't know, they. have bad intentions when they get to the. ball. I'm sure training camp was was fun. going against them, but what's it like. watching them progress throughout the. year? Oh, it has been absolutely It was a I. think it was pretty cool that Tate was. asking. I mean, knowing that we had a. big divisional game coming up this week, he was like, "Man, this just feels like. we're this is an emotional game for. everybody." I'm like, "Hey, Tate, like. as long as we do our stuff on on our. side of the ball, they're the they they may be seeing. ghosts out there tomorrow on Sunday.". The dogs The dogs are barking.

They're barking. I'm like, man, the the boy Verse, BY, Fisk, Kobe. I mean, it was funny cuz I'm. like I remember watching Kobe Durant's. pick. He had the same exact pick against. Sam Darnold. on uh. in the Vikings game last year. Like. textbook field field out route, step. underneath it and it was like it was. just it was music to it was music to my. ears to be able to see them like just. yeah, I I call them the dogs. The dogs. are barking. They were going crazy. yesterday and hitting on all cylinders. and it was fun cuz it makes our job a.

little bit easier even when we don't get. in the end zone. It's a young group over. there. You know, you think Matthew. Stafford's old ass got drafted with me. and D-Butt. D-Butt has a question for. you here in a second. He he's old as. [ __ ] but you guys have a young nucleus. that is just ready and I love that the. dogs are barking is the mindset for that. entire defense. Go ahead, D-Butt. >> Absolutely. Your dogs barking Seattle, they got some dogs barking as well. This. uh NFC West as a whole, what's the. mindset just going into these games week. in and week out? You guys are definitely. be callous for the playoffs. What's the. Is it a mind Is it a different mindset?

I know you're trying to win every game. This is a big game for first place in. the division. What's the mindset? What's. the conversation going into these type. of battles? Um this one I think um especially just. with everything that happened in the. off-season, getting to see Coop and. especially some of the other guys that. have just been with the Rams and then. going over there. But it was one that we. had I definitely had circled and. everybody I mean leading up to it. Thursday practice is a little bit more. physical. Everybody The defenses We're. not talking to Verse and BY on on. Thursday practice cuz like I everybody.

buckle your. buckle buckle up. for for practice. But it's fun because when you go out. there, you set a message for the rest of. the season and like all right, when. we're going to see you again, you know. what's up. Hell yeah. Hey, you still try. to run people over, dude. >> He does. >> Yeah, you still trying to do that. Is. that going to be forever thing, you. think? Oh, I'm never stepping out of bounds. That's soft. That's not how football is. supposed to be played. >> Hell yeah. How old are you? How old are. you? Uh 24. Okay. We'll talk to you tomorrow. >> [laughter]. >> at 30. We'll see how it is. You're an. absolute beast, Oos. [clears throat].

You're so much fun to watch. Literally. So much fun to watch. >> are you guys coming out to a game? I saw. you I I haven't seen you in a while. I'm. like I feel like you're going out to the. games. I know you're College GameDay. You're taking the pics. Are you picking. against the Cougars? I'm like, "What's. going on over here?". >> Well, listen, how I did say that you I. saw you you said that you love the. Mormons and then I feel like I didn't I. didn't see you pick the Cougars. I was. like, "Wait, what what what where did it. go wrong?" It's a different, you know, you I love the Mormons. I mean, I'm from. Pittsburgh. I love people from. Pittsburgh picking other teams. It's. just It's all It's strictly business, as. Coach Corso used to say. It's It's you. know, I am trying to have a perfect.

picks week one week. Okay? I'm trying my. best cuz the odds get pretty immaculate. up there. This past week, there was a. couple isolated island picks, but I'll. tell you what, Oos, it's hard to pick against some fan bases. cuz they're so mean if you pick against. them. And I'll tell you what, you. Mormons, not as mean. It's actually It's. actually pretty nice and I'm not saying. that's why I do it, but I'm just saying. it is a nice little feat of it all. I was going to say you're probably get. cookies made if you if you don't vote.

for them cuz then they're like they want. you to vote for them next week. So, I'm. like they're they're trying to set it. up. And I know you were scared as could. be when that boy AD pushed you off the. stage. >> [laughter]. >> All right, listen, he's still absolutely. jacked. Do you ever see him still? He's. a monster. He comes into the weight room and it's. like somehow like the 180-like pound. dumbbells just like appear in our weight. room and I'm like, "What the hell are. the What's going on?" And he's just like. casually walking in with the cut-off tee. like. >> [laughter]. >> Yeah, and you don't really see how. jacked he is and then he stands up. Yeah, all right, see you. Yeah, I'm. going to get out of here. Yeah, I'm.

going to get out of here. Yeah, get the. hell out. Yeah, he's awesome. Yeah. Look. at those biceps, dude. This is. ridiculous. Yeah, he's he's got. vascularity in his abs, you know, I. mean, an absolute monster and he was. great on the show. I don't know if you. watched the entirety of it, Puka. He was. great. He knew his [ __ ] He understood. what was going on and it was a huge. moment for him, obviously, number. getting retired. How's the season going? How do you feel? What a legend. Feel pretty good. I'm like, man, I I. love. waiting for LeBron to return, honestly. So, I'm like it would make. >> [laughter]. >> football season a little bit better. I'm. like I'm planning to go to some Laker.

games coming up soon. The Luka Dončić, I. got to see the boy. I'm like. I watched that Wemby game with Steph. Curry the other day. It was fantastic. I'm like the NBA season I'm like it's. really starting to kick off. That boy. KD's going crazy. Yeah, I'm like you're asking about. football and I went straight to. basketball. I'm like I enjoy basketball. [laughter]. season. >> Yeah, I understand. Yeah, and basketball. huge part of your training, you've told. us. Obviously, big basketball fan. LeBron though, you don't want to go. watch the Luka show? You don't want. You're not good with the Luka show? You. you need LeBron. No, I.

Luka and Puka I'm like I'm trying to. figure out I'm like if you if you would. have a segment segment for us, that. would be fantastic. Me and Luka the Luka. Puka with Big Oos, I think we could. figure something out. Yeah, I think LA. Luka Puka with Yeah, I think we could. definitely pull that off. We get you out. of We get you out of Pittsburgh or. Indianapolis and come over here. It's a. far trip. You asked me about the game. coming to a game. That's a long way. Long way. Long way. Don't worry. It's. sunny out here. It's It's California. Well, technically not right now, but. What is it? How is the weather out.

there? It's been raining. It's been terrible. I'm like my family came out. I'm like, "Oh, this is so nice. It never rains and. it feels 70 all the time." And freaking. rainstorm. >> [snorts]. >> That's no good. We didn't get to go to Malibu. Mom. didn't enjoy that, but Mom's cooking. tonight, so Mom's about to make some. cookies tonight. Hopefully she makes some. >> [laughter]. >> uh. hamburger curry. Some hamburger curry. would be great. Okay. Feels like you're. putting in an order right now, potentially. >> pot corn corn beef and spaghetti. I'm. like, Mom, please be watching Pat McAfee.

right now. >> She is She is Mama Oos. Do you need. this? Yeah. Am I allowed to say that? Is that how. that works? Oosa? Is there a uh female. Oos? Or how how would that No. No. Uh. you you're Mama Nacua. Mama Nacua? Yep. >> God, that's a great name. Mama Nacua. making some cornbread spaghetti, I. heard. Is that what Is that what we're. eating there? Corn corned beef and. spaghetti. Corned beef and spaghetti. Oh, Mama Nacua, ship some of that to. Indianapolis. Yeah. Yeah, we got bad. weather too. We'll eat a lot of corned. beef and and spaghetti down here.

>> they got that trench cut stew. It comes. in the can. The spaghetti comes in the. can like the can like the pop can and. like corned beef. It's all canned like. you need a can opener. Cook it up. It's. uh from like one of the Asian stores. Um. In the trenches. You got to get it. >> Yeah, sounds like tonight's about to be. awesome, man. At the Nacua. >> Well, I. I did wake up with a sausage McGriddle. and a hash brown and a sausage McMuffin. this morning. It was fantastic. Yeah, you got to do what you got to do. You're. 24 years old. >> [laughter]. >> You can do whatever the hell you want at. this point. And at some point you're. going to step out of bounds too and.

we're going to watch it. We're going to. watch it happen. Nope, you can bookmark this right now. I. won't do it. I'm like I I would be doing. it dis- a disservice to the gentlemen. who played before me by stepping out of. bounds. You're an animal. We appreciate you. You're a gentleman. >> [laughter]. >> First team all pro this year. Going to. happen. Puka Nacua. He's the best. He's the [ __ ] best. He's the absolute best. >> Yeah, he's the man. That's right. Everyone in that Everyone in that locker. room loves him. Everybody I think just. in like Yes, that too. We saw him show. up at a a thing for the ESPYs. And as.

soon as he got there like everybody just. like kind of everybody's just bumps. smiling hair. His name's Puka Nacua. Mhm. Great vibes. Great vibes. Great. vibes, great player. And then him saying. I'm not stepping out of bounds that. would disrespect all the men that played. the game before me. What a line, AJ. Hawk. Yeah, it's pretty pretty amazing. He's the guy that like makes everybody. around him happy, I feel like. I had a. coach who always said that like you I. like being around dudes that make. everybody feel good about themselves. Like I feel like that is Puka. Are you. an energy vampire or energy giver? You. know, that is kind of the two different.

sides of the coin that you could be. Puka Nacua is certainly an energy giver. Now, we put out a tweet that maybe takes. some energy out of some groups. You. know, every single Monday. I put out a. tweet and I say, "Good morning. Hope you. all were fantastic." Cuz I do hope that. it's fantastic. Where do we all stand on. the good morning? Have you heard this? No. >> No. Cuz morning kind of indicates a. negative connotation. Yeah, although that is spelled. differently, you know. Certainly spelled differently. There's.

people that substitute the word morning. so that there's no negativity. So it's a. good good rising, good wakey. You're a. [ __ ] if you do that. Who's doing this? That is on the person doing that. If. that's immediately where your mind goes. when someone says good morning is, "Why. would I mourn anything right now? It's a. great day." Then you're a piece of [ __ ]. and you need to change your and alter. your world view immediately. Good. morning has been said. since the [ __ ] caveman and it will be. said 2,000 years from now. So if you're.

one of the people out there that's doing. that, just [ __ ] stop doing it. Don't. do that. And if you are doing. [clears throat] it, you know why you're. in a bad mood? Cuz nobody wants to be. around you. >> [laughter]. >> Well said. Probably right. So what are you supposed to say? You. good morning. Good morning. Yeah. Like a. normal [ __ ] human being. No, AJ, I. can see you as a grand rising king type. of guy. >> [laughter]. >> I can't even respond to you, but I can. think it to myself say that.

>> [laughter]. >> Great morning to all of you. Thank you. >> Great morning to all of you. It's my favorite thing to say. It's so. easy. You can just kind of get it out to. everyone. Morning morning morning. morning morning. We do it in here to everyone to each. other every single Every person that. walks in Morning morning. It is a fun. little little greeting. >> Starts the great It starts. First thing we're saying. >> [laughter]. >> the delivery of it The delivery of it. too kind of sets the tone for how the. rest of the day is going to go. Yeah? Morning. Oh, Jesus. Think of a coach. Hey, think of a coach walking in a team.

meeting, "Good morning." And then he. doesn't get the good morning back he. wants and then he yells at a "Good. morning. I said good morning. All right, everybody out. Let's restart the. meeting." Like everyone got to get out. and come back in. It's so important to. society. Good morning. >> Yeah. Yeah. Shh. Yeah. I'm happy we got. to the bottom of that. >> Had to. Anyway, so I put a tweet out and. I say, "Good morning, [laughter]. beautiful people. Why don't you go ahead. and utilize this particular post as a. form of therapy for your fandom. Let all. of your emotions out. The best ones will. actually make the show and all you have. to use is.

>> #idontwanttooverreactbut. And Ty Schmit here, who just had his. incredible take on good morning people. versus not good morning people, uh goes. through them all and finds his best ones. and the best ones. Ty, how was today's. kind of pool of entries? >> I'd say pretty solid cuz yesterday was a. great day of ball and there are a couple. of, you know, fan bases who today are. kind of just reality setting in. We're. you know, we're getting to the most. important football and you got a pretty. good idea of what your football team is.

right now. >> Well, let's go to somebody that thinks. they have a great opportunity to. celebrate at the end. This is from Ty. Diggs. #idontwanttooverreactbut. Christmas decorations went up this. weekend. Football weather is here. Another heated AFC North race is. happening. That only means one thing. Mason the savior Rudolph season is upon. us. Offense looked crisper. Line blocked. a little better. Wide receivers a little. more open. Running backs ran a little. harder. Might have a QB controversy.

in Pittsburgh. And then he found a photo. from a church in Pittsburgh of Mason the. savior Rudolph here. Ty, would you like. to explain whether or not that's an. overreaction or just a standard reaction. from not only you, but Yinzers. everywhere with the Steelers. >> Mason has delivered for us in the past. in his in our time of need. Um and we had a time of need yesterday. in the second half and he delivered. again. And I'm not kidding. It It did. It. looked Everything looked a little just a.

little bit better in the second half. yesterday for the offense and I'm I'm. not saying that Mason needs to start. over Aaron. I'm just saying if Mason. needs to start over Aaron and if Aaron. needs to take some time and and heal up. this wrist that things are going to be. just okay. He He He stands in there. He. takes shots. He's not afraid to to throw. it downfield. The mustache is unbelievable. I mean, you saw him. He was standing up there on. Mount Washington with the with the. IC Light or IC sorry. IC Light sign over his. over his shoulder and those beautiful.

bridges in his Jesus outfit. That's how I feel about him right now. Yeah, he kind of has a Davidians outfit. too, I think. That's what I see. No, that's Jesus That's Jesus Christ. No, it looks like David Koresh a little. bit. >> No, cuz I specifically told ChatGPT to. put Mason Rudolph in a Jesus Christ. outfit overlooking Pittsburgh. Yeah, but what I'm saying is ChatGPT. said we can't do that for you. But we. can offer up. David Koresh Mason Rudolph overlooking.

Pittsburgh with the Iron City Beer sign. >> If Koresh is going to bring a Super. Bowl, I'm all in. See, that's part of. the problem. But on that note, football. time. The football time. Let's go to the. next overreaction. This is from our. Lord Zito. #idontwanttooverreactbut. the Bears are going to win the Super. Bowl. Our defense isn't even at full. strength and we will still lead the. league in takeaways, 22 of them. He was putting that math together as he. was piecing it together. Zito's running. the stats on the Chicago Bears team. We. have the best coach in the league and.

Caleb is balling. The monsters of the. Midway are back, baby. Screenshot of the. NFC North leaderboard. They're the kings. of the north. And they should be very. proud of Da Team up there in Chicago. Hey, man, Zito. Zito's you know, he got. all those skippy step whenever he comes. in after the victory stakes hit home. The Chicago Bears team feels special, feels different. Ben Johnson's able to. go in there and flip an entire culture. this quickly, AJ? Is that what we're. seeing here? And shall we talk a little.

bit more about Ben Johnson for coach of. the year? Yeah, I think he should. definitely be up for it and we'll see. that. They still have to get to play the. Packers two times and that's why it's. great. We're going to get to see who the. best team in the in the north is. So. yeah, Ben Johnson's done an unbelievable. job, I believe. What was the first. couple of weeks? They They already. wanted him gone. I feel like Zito other. people wanted him out of here saying. it's not going to work and now look at. what they have done. They're legit. contenders. >> Zito Zito would say, "Whoa whoa whoa. whoa whoa." Yeah, Zito wouldn't say. that. Zito trusted Ben Johnson. He. believed in Ben Johnson. Now, Zito will.

just follow whoever is the head coach of. the Bears right off of a cliff from what. I've learned, but he believed in Ben. Johnson. I think they may be and I'm not. saying Zito this, but Zito's friends and. other Bears fans, maybe they didn't. believe Caleb was going to be a part of. the solution as opposed to maybe a part. of the problem as Ben Johnson comes in. here and tries to win for the first time. in a long time. Instead, those two have. seemingly got along swimmingly and I. think he's only going to get better in. Ben Johnson. >> Yeah, and I've I've been loving I don't. know if you guys have been seeing it, but they've been having some like Caleb. Williams Ben Johnson like some mic'd up.

moments and just a lot of things I. wouldn't expect from Caleb. Like he's. taking on more of that leadership role, more of the vocal leadership role. And. whenever you're winning games or making. winning plays late in games, that's a. big deal, especially now at the. midseason. But they're they're taking on. the identity of Ben Johnson. They're. running the ball well. They're playing. good defense. Uh the passing game still. I think has a long way to go to go, but. they have the talent at the quarterback. position and the skill position. Loveland, he's becoming a weapon week in. and week out and we know about Rome and. DJ and all the other guys on the.

outside. So yeah, the arrow's definitely. pointing up on the Chicago team. >> Whoa. There's a Packers fan right there and. right there and there's a Lions fan. right back there. Ben Johnson said give. me a Detroit. Keep me in the NFC North. I'm going down to Chicago and I'm going. to run this thing. Are you okay, Foxy? Are the Lions fans okay with what's. going on in Chicago? A lot of ball left, but I would say right now at this moment. with how our offense looked last night. and with what the Bears are doing, all I.

can say is there's something missing in. Detroit and could it be Ben Johnson? Maybe. Could it be Frank Ragnow? Maybe, but there's something going on with our. offense. We just don't have the answers. like we did last year or in past years. It's a little bit worrisome, but like I. said, a lot of ball left. >> That's what Shraegs was saying. That's what Shraegs was saying before. the season started, guys. It is shaping. up to be pretty awesome because like AJ. mentioned, two games with the Packers. still. That last game, we've had it a. couple of years now in a row here with.

the NFC North in particular. It's going. to end up being Bears-Lions, winner goes. to playoff, loser goes home. especially. with the Lions being out on the edge. right now. We have the NFC roads here. for all the teams that lead to division. to the playoffs. Obviously, the Bears. are that team. You got the Packers. twice, you got the Niners, the Lions, the Eagles, the Steelers. That's a tough. road, okay? Cleveland at home is good. news for Chicago, but whenever you think. about if the Bears are able to go. through this gauntlet and get to the. playoffs and still be in a lead, I think. we'll all believe. Yeah, for sure. Good,

better, best right there. It's starting. to happen. Never let her rest till you. do it better and your better is your. best. If they're able to get through. that entire thing, I mean, that would be. quite a murderer's row. We're happy for. you, Chicago Bears fans. You guys have. obviously been through Let's go to the. next overreaction, shall we? This one's. from Noah at Real X Clarity. #I don't. want to overreact, but the Broncos are. back, baby. Fraud this, fraud that. Only two losses. by four combined points. Best D in the. league and Bo Nix with the most fourth. quarter comebacks in a QB's first two. seasons in NFL history. Wow. He's Elway.

reincarnated for our lucky selves to. watch. God bless. Bo Nix. I'll tell you what. Sean Payton loved Bo Nix whenever he. drafted him. And you know, last year. obviously they go through their growing. pains, get very good. This offseason, is. the quarterback a guy or not? Feels like. in the biggest moment here, he played. his best ball. And Sean Payton. offensively, we assume is always going. to be good unless he's getting depleted. or de-Jordaned by refs on the sideline. That Broncos team is exactly who we.

thought they were, feels like AJ. Yeah, their defense obviously stands up. when they need him against the Chiefs. and. it's hard for me to get that image out. of Sean Payton getting blasted on the. sideline. Yeah, you got [laughter] to. stay out of the way. You know, those. refs Those refs will come screaming down. that sideline. Sean Payton gets hit. right in the back, has no idea what. happened. Yeah, penalty on him, I guess, but man, that's that's a tough look for. this Oh my goodness. Good sell by the. ref, though. Yeah, ref does full sell, full body roll. Sean Payton also wants. to fight the guy, I think, and. >> [laughter]. >> What if he had charged him? What if he.

started bear crawling after him? He he. did eyeball him there afterwards. I. wonder if he was like, "What the hell's. your problem?" And then the ref's like, "Well, you you're my problem at this. moment." I don't [laughter] know how. that goes. Sean Payton hanging. The. drive-by flag of the ref. It's the best. Yeah, he tosses it up and just keeps. running. Look at him [ __ ] That's a flag, [ __ ]. >> [laughter]. >> I didn't even see the drive-by when. first. >> [laughter]. >> lands perfectly in Sean Payton's face. He's definitely.

>> [gasps]. >> lands right in his crotch. What a toss. >> Oh, [ __ ]. Uh that's a flag, [ __ ]. >> [laughter]. >> What a toss. Boom, boom. He's down. Somebody's watching and I got to get my. guys back running full speed. Go and. toss that thing. Bang. That's how you. flag. >> [laughter]. >> Jeez. Oh, that's amazing. >> [laughter]. >> All right. Yeah, good Hey, congrats, so. you guys need to stop taking these big. shots on the sideline. Let's go to the next overreaction, shall.

we? This one is from Ethan Todter. #I. don't want to overreact, but I hate. having hope going into a season. The. window is closed. Blow everything up and. go back to poverty. >> [laughter]. >> Jared Goff couldn't hit the broad side. of a barn last night. I'd rather put the. bags back on and change show. the. team. We're calling for We. paper bags over our heads again, Foxy? We cannot be this fan base. This is the. worst tweet I have read in like 20 years.

of being on Twitter. I hate this tweet. This is the worst fan ever. Get this guy. out of Detroit. Okay, we you we went 0. and 16, first in NFL history to go 0 and. 16. This guy wants to go back to that. We had Matthew Stafford for 12 years. He's one of the greatest quarterbacks in. the history of the NFL. He's got the. Rams playing great. He won a Super Bowl. for them. We couldn't even win a playoff. win with the guy. That's how bad we were. as a franchise. That's how bad we were. at hiring coaches, getting the right.

guys around him, offensive line, run. game, you name it. Matthew Stafford. didn't win one single playoff game. And. now we're 6 and 4. We just lost to the. defending Super Bowl champs. And this. guy This guy, Ethan Todter, wants to go. back to the paper bag days. I'm out on. this guy. THIS GUY SUCKS. >> NO, FOXY. ETHAN SPEAKS FOR A LOT OF. PEOPLE UP THERE IN DETROIT. NO WAY. I. hate any fan that thinks this way. I. hate anyone that doesn't like Jared. Goff, by the way. Yes, he played pretty. bad last night and that's going to. happen from time to time against the.

best defense in the league. But that guy. won us a playoff game, all right? That. guy started out terrible and everyone. said, "Get him out of town." And he. stuck with it. MCDC stuck with it. Won. us a playoff game, got us to NFC. Championship. Never happened in my life. and this guy This fan wants him out of. town. He sucks. Ethan Todter. Todter. sucks. >> Is it true? Was he I saw somewhere that. Goff was wearing mittens last night? That's not true. He just wore two. gloves. No, no. Mittens underneath his. gloves. I saw that same exact thing. I. didn't see that. It's where your finger.

It's not individual fingers. Like he. wore the under Yeah, like sticky. bandits. >> Oh, this one. The one that folds over. So, he had the Nike ones that were the. glove and then they flipped right over. in between. Sliding gloves on them. Allegedly, Johnny Morton was walking. around the sideline going. >> [laughter]. >> MCDC, huh? So easy, huh? I figured out. Good call on every fourth down walking. by. Nice call, [ __ ]. >> [laughter]. >> Oh, he was thinking it, maybe. Johnny Mo.

last night lays his head down. Just like a [ __ ] [ __ ]. >> [laughter]. >> We got to remember what Holmes said last. week, all right? Last week was. Commanders, MCDC called those plays. This week what or this week was the. Eagles, Johnny Mo called those. Next. week, we're back to the Giants, MCDC. gets us. Week after that, Johnny Mo gets. the Packers and then we just keep going. back and forth. Not a bad idea, especially for your head ball coach. But on that note, I don't like seeing the Jared Goff thing. again from Todter. Okay? This man's a.

new man. This man's getting his name. chanted around the entire city. >> I saw worse than that. This guy's done. it. You're saying Ethan Todter was towing. the line of being kind versus what. everybody else was. I saw a pretty big. NFL account say uh Jared Goff when it's. whatever degrees or colder and it was. Sure Orlovsky. Oh, no. Is that NFL. memes? Orlovsky's Orlovsky. Let's ask. him how he feels about this. That I. mean, that's a shot at a couple people. there. Well, then they'll just put out a. list if you. if you I forget. >> If you take away you delete drops and.

weather under 30 degrees and offensive. line miscues and something else, then. these are the top five quarterbacks. >> Orlovsky put that tweet out? The EPA. Goff is number one? And plus, Orlovsky. hearing that he would be compared to. Goff, he's licking his chops. No. Remember, guy's allowed to have a bad game. Now, him showing up with two gloves when he. never does that, kind of worrisome. Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, is the guy who. people are saying he's actually Jared.

Goff under 50 degrees of weather. Ladies. and gentlemen, Dan Orlovsky. Dan, I know you got TV in a couple of. minutes. We apologize for interrupting. your pre-show routine. I know you have. to meditate and all that [ __ ] So, the. the thought of them saying Jared Goff at. his absolute worst is Dan Orlovsky. How. do you feel about that and why did Jared. Goff not play good? That's [ __ ] up. I'm saying it. I'm telling you it's. [ __ ] up. I don't like it, but it is. what's happening. Uh why what happened. to Jared Goff and why does he wear two. gloves sometimes and not all the time? Yeah, I would tell you what happened to.

him was the Eagles defensive line. exposed the Lions offensive line. That. was the best front that the Lions. offensive line has played all season. long, probably since at least week one, Green Bay. Uh and the Jalen Phillips-Carter combo. is just, you know, dominant right now. Jordan Davis, Ojomo, Hunt. Um I think Jared was 0 for 12 last night. under pressure. So, it was more so the. Lions offensive line just getting. dominated. And then sticky coverage. I. don't know why he's wearing two gloves. My guess is the temperature and the, you.

know, the trying to keep grip on the. ball as much as he can. I know it was. windy last night. I don't necessarily. take offense to Jared being me under. certain weather, so uh. but that was more Philly's defensive. line kicking the absolute, you know, what out of the Lions offensive line. Foxy, please run it. Yep. There. That's. what they said, Dan. I don't like it. That's good When he has to play outside. of the dome without a perfectly. climate-controlled environment. >> [laughter].

>> THAT'S A GOOD TWEET. NFL MEMES ARE GOOD. >> INTERNET, MAN. It's so good. >> Yeah, NFL memes good account to good. account. They get They. They stay ahead of the game and I. thought this was rude to both parties. because Jared Goff is a great. quarterback. We think he has proved he's. a great quarterback. Everybody wants him. not to be. You have a bad game, they're. going to attack you. Just like It's more. of a knock on Jared than it is. Jared's. the one who should be offended, not me, right? Like I'm kind of getting an. uptick. Yeah. Yeah, no doubt. No, you. should be offended, too. Nah, I don't give a fudge. Yeah, you who.

fudged it all, dude. Good luck on TV. we appreciate the fudge out of you, dude. Later. >> [laughter]. >> Hey, mother [ __ ] Orlovsky. And one more thing on Folorunso's tweet. >> [laughter]. >> He wants to go back to the days, no. disrespect cuz I see Dan is still He. wants to go back to your Orlovsky days. And that's why I told her is a terrible. fan for the the Detroit Lions. >> Dan, this is uncalled for. I just want. to let you know that, Dan. This is. outrageous.

Oh, it's so fudge and rude. Then we mute. him. All right, Dan. Thank you, Dan. [applause]. That was tough times here for Dan. Orlovsky. If you don't have any. expectations, then you you can't be let. down, I guess, right? So, you just. expect to be terrible? Is that what they. want? >> I've heard a coach say that if we win. too much here, people are going to. expect us to win a Super Bowl, and then. when we can't do that, uh then we're all. going to get fired. You heard a coach. That must have been a Hall of Fame. coach. No. No. Ask coach, yeah.

Wasn't coach for my team, but I heard in. conversation for other team. And I. immediately go, wow, that's a cancer in. the building if you get that mind. mindset or mentality in there. Wow. Sounds like that's what a fan mindset. potentially is. Like, if we're just not. if we're too good right now, expectations will get crazy. We just need to remain ass, so then we. get done at a game, we [ __ ] get a hot. dog, maybe M&M will be there. Speaking. of breaking news for the Detroit Lions.

You are not ass, and your Thanksgiving. um performances are only going to get. better. Eminem has signed on to become. the conductor Mhm. executive producer. There it is. Conductor. EP of the. halftime shows. We all remember the Jack. Harlow experiment that happened couple. of. >> So good. couple of years back. >> So good. Jack bamboozled, I believe, there. by the setup and everything. This year's halftime show for. Thanksgiving game for the Detroit Lions, Jack White. Good selection.

But you know where he's going? Wichita, dude. Hey. And uh he's going to Detroit. for Thanksgiving. He's hometown. I genuinely don't know how many songs he. has to play or needs to play, but boy, if you just play that one, I. think it'll be a much better success. than anything else going on anywhere. else. >> How many other bangers does he have?

All of them. Oh, everyone knows that. one. All of them. He's got a lot. Not everyone does know. that one, we learned this morning, actually. Really? T-Bone doesn't know. Yeah. Oh, T-Bone? T-Bone doesn't know. Is that how you're going to get Is that. Jack White, too? No. No, no, no. Okay, that's Matt Damon. Who was who was the guy uh freestyling. in the Steelers locker room? Oh, you're. talking about Mack. >> I. thought. I thought that was Eminem. You're talking about Mack. >> I did, too, initially. >> Harry Mack, I believe, is his name. He's. outrageous. I mean, he's outrageous. He.

was able to get uh Bibliotheca, I. believe, in there at some point. You. know, just freestyle a brain. Unbelievable rhymes. I I do wonder how. many rhymes he has at all times in his. brain. >> He's just off the top every time. >> Everything and he gets new words. Impressive. He gets a word from 10. different people, and then he has to go. back through it, obviously, and memorize. what everybody's word is, and then he. just kind of goes down the line. And. through it all, you know, telling a. story while freestyling. It was He's an. impressive being. I've seen him on the. internet for some years now, and it it.

He has the ability to do the most absurd. thing. As soon as he walks in there and. says, I need some words, somebody says, orange. He says, I do it literally all. the time. Thank you so much, no problem. And he's like uh that's kind of his. gimmick. Him traveling around, he was. the creator of the week or something. like that, the NFL's creator of the. week. I think the NFL is trying to reach. out to more creators to do stuff. >> got uh the Wiggles or Kids Bop next. week, or who who's next up for this one? >> know who the next creator of the week. would be, but I do know that uh. they won. They're one and 0 now with. Harry coming in. What happened to the Rams? I saw a new.

O's. Was there a new O's? >> Oh, no, it was just a segment on uh on. Sunday NFL Countdown of O's doing it. And you who knows when they did it, it. might have been like before the season, but it was, you know, classic O's, play. the hits, do all the same [ __ ] he does. with in every NFL locker room. Hey, Stafford, I want you to stand up here. and think of who you're going to throw. the ball to. Just think of who you're. going to throw the ball to. And we I. mean, we've all seen, you know, this. song and dance. He throws it to Davante. Davante, stop. Go ahead and take this permanent marker. and write down the score of the Super. Bowl. Visualize it in your mind. And the.

team you're going to play as well. What do you know? He gets that, too. But. let's take it a step further. >> [snorts]. >> Matthew, I want I want you to, you know, who And then who after Davante, who else. are you going to throw to? And what do. you know? >> No way. >> The two other guys. that Matthew's thinking of, put their. jersey numbers together, boom, on. Davante's palm, 23-14. They're beating the Broncos in the Super. Bowl. Unbelievable. But you know, it's I mean, Actually sick. It's it's good it's good. stuff, but it is just kind of the. recycled O's Yeah, but every time you.

think he's not going to get it right. That's the. This [ __ ] don't miss. >> know if everybody thinks that. I certainly think that. Well, that's the. thing is there's always the chance that. he's going to miss it cuz he's so. aggressive. >> But but then I was also thinking, O's. not It don't miss. Well, It's O's. >> I know, but that's a part of it. >> miss once with a bunch of [ __ ]. people. >> No, but that was tough. Yeah, I think. that was it Once again, that was very. aggressive. Like, the things he tries to. do with fields are very, very, very, very aggressive.

>> Right. But you knew scores exact this, exact that. Yeah. You knew that wasn't. going to happen because it was a. pre-produced segment on NFL Countdown. Now, it would have been funny. Oh, so. you're saying It would have. would have been pretty sweet if you'd. have just like [ __ ] up, and they would. have been like, boom. >> keep it. I'm so sorry that that happened, but you. can see [laughter] magic is, you know, you never know what's going to happen. with it. Every time though, I I get. worried for him. Like, anytime I'm up. there with him, I have a general sense. of anxiety. Yep. Just like, oh man, you're going really You're really going.

for it, right now. Yeah. You're really. going for it. Like, this is way too. much. All right. And then he he has had. me be a part of a couple of them. I'm. like, bro, don't do that. Like, don't. have me be a part of this [ __ ] Like, I. don't want to [ __ ] this up. You know, like, all right, you're going to think. of a school, you're going to think of a. school, you're going to think of a. school or whatever university. I'm like, okay. Which one do you want me to think. of, buddy? So many. It's like, just think of one. Like, yeah, there's 130 and [ __ ] do. one. They're all pretty good. It would be. [ __ ] sick if I dropped some random. one on you. It's great. But I don't want. to [ __ ] it up. Yeah, maybe Scranton. You.

ever heard of them? [ __ ] great. women's basketball team. >> [laughter]. >> So, it's always a lot. He's always very. aggressive. PIN numbers, like, hey, what's a super personal, super specific. number? PIN numbers to jersey numbers, what is a specific score? >> Crazy. He's just very aggressive. >> That was kind of like career on the line. every time you do that. >> Yes, that's everything he does. It's. like, bro, I don't think you have to go. that far. >> The one with Darius was the most. impressive one I've ever seen. Score of. the game? >> That yeah, that was nuts. To get the. name the one, and then the emoji. But.

also, that's aggressive there. Very. Extremely. [ __ ] the [ __ ] he had taped to come. in. Like, live with the Was that. Detroit? Yeah, yeah, that was that was. wild as well. He also just posted, I. think it was on the Today Show or Good. Morning America, and he basically had. this guy who was interviewing him, and. he was doing his whole schtick. And uh. he said like, think of the person that. you would want to, you know, interview. dead or alive. And the guy is talking. about how like, I've never told said. this to anyone, told anyone about this.

And then right before they shook hands, O's goes, change your mind, change your. mind, change your mind right now. And. the guy changes mind, and he goes, Bob. Marley. And the guy was just like, >> What the [ __ ]. >> And the guy like couldn't even speak. >> have said Bob Marley, I would have said. it. I would have said it. Cuz guy was. thinking You were thinking Bob Marley. I. swear to God, when you first said it, the first person alive, I said Bob Marley. I swear to God. And I. haven't seen what. >> [groaning]. >> He may have. >> That's crazy. He a little O's puppet. guy. Maybe you have the ability, brother, to.

If I was ever an O's puppet, shoot me in. the [ __ ] head. >> [laughter]. >> I don't think you would know if you. were. That's a good point. >> That's O's football. All right. Yeah, but he's he's uh the Yeah, all of it is. just so very aggressive. Like, you're. you're. You're really. >> Even if he messes up, I think he's good. enough to talk his way out of it and. craft it into something else. Maybe. I. See, that's what I'm saying, he doesn't. leave himself a lot of outs. Like, that. that is what I'm saying. Like, everything has to be exact or that cuz.

he does callbacks in his [ __ ] [ __ ]. And it's like, everything has to be. there for it all. And. it's stressful. I don't know how he gets. through it. >> It would be an interesting read. I kind. of do want to get his book just to see. what it says in there, but then I think. he's just going to gimmick the whole. thing. Like, I told you to buy this. book, and now you're [ __ ] reading it. How about that? [laughter] Last page. Yeah, yeah. Got you, [ __ ] Let's go to. another overreaction. Shall we? This is. from Drew Cowgill. Hashtag I don't want to overreact, but. the Vikings are dead. Nine is the second. coming of Christian. Ponder. Ooh.

Another superstar wide receiver's career. being wasted in Minnesota. [ __ ] this, dude. I don't think we can say that about Nine. just yet. Jeez. I'm down. To say what? To [laughter] say that. about Nine just yet. What about Drew. Cowgill though? He needs a little bit of. hope. Nine's not done. Nine can get a. lot better. This is basically his rookie. year. >> Well, it's tough. And yes, I do agree. Like, he's only played [ __ ] 10 games. I have a feeling if Nick Mullens was. starting, they're six and four right. now. Aaron Rodgers too, potentially their. quarterback. Sam Darnold potentially.

their quarterback now. People are saying. Sam Darnold last night is exactly what. we thought Sam Darnold was going to be, which is why we didn't want him. Sam. Darnold's going to have to fight through. that for the rest of his career until he. wins a Super Bowl, which we think. Seattle potentially could, but there's a. lot of quarterbacks not at Minnesota. that could be at Minnesota right now. Danny Dimes was in that building. That. was potentially a guy. He's going on to. obviously lead the Indianapolis Colts, the things that we've never done before. So, there's a lot of Minnesota Vikings. fans thinking, what if, I think, too. A. lot of what ifs, cuz of where they were. last year and where they could have. been. Kirk Cousins even a couple years. back. There's just so much what if with. how good a team is. And then you watch.

him literally miss. I mean. There's some. There are some misses that are like. little league type stuff misses. Then. there's some, you know, some throws that. get made late that are like must-haves. that happen. Then there's some fastballs. that take place where you don't need a. fastball. And then there's some misses. where we don't need it that are kind of. low It's like he has the ability, I. think, at somewhere in there to make the. big plays. He's going to have to work to. that, though. So maybe his first. offseason, this upcoming offseason,

he'll be able to make a huge leap. Is. that the expectation, AJ? I would assume so, but I mean if if. Santos misses that kick, are is anyone. upset with with JJ McCarthy and the. Vikings? Are they sweeping under the. rug, "Hey, we're good to go. This guy's. a gamer." Say NFC Offensive Player of. the Week, you know. 120 yards. It's not about nine. Yeah. I. mean, See, that's what I think they need. to do. I think they need to do a human. sacrifice. Go get like a crash test. dummy. Put the JJ McCarthy jersey on him and. then take like a rocket launcher like a. machine gun and just.

You got to [ __ ] kill nine. And we. need JJ. >> Give him a different number. Oh. He. needs a new number. >> Oh, there you go. Yeah. Change jersey, you can do that. That'd be sweet. 40. Yeah. >> Now we're Barry Bonds. 47. 47. Now we're. [laughter] talking. What number would look good, Don? He. can't be nine anymore. What What What. about 99? Oh, what about 12? Loves Tom, right? Yeah, let's put him in Brady's. number. That won't go bad. How would [laughter] Biscay? I think it's I think it's so bad I think.

it's Defcon 5 up there. They had 14 wins. and before going into the season, there. were some people who I won't name who. were basically saying like, "Hey, look, they're going to be better than they. were last year. They might not win in. the the same amount of games, but. they're going to be better." And then. you think about Sorry. You [laughter] keep going. Keep going. But yeah, you just think He's just got. lost in the new number. Yeah, but you're. right. There were people who had high. expectations for nine. Yeah. Seven. What. are you looking up? I was Well, I was. going to say what number is Christian. Ponder cuz they may have been playing. into this thing the whole time. For him to change his number? >> Yeah, but I don't remember because like.

this guy mentioned, Christian Ponder was. pretty shitty. He was out pretty. quickly, you know, so. >> Let's go to completion percentages in. the KOC offense out there in Minnesota. Nick Mullens, 70.3. This guy was. spinning it. Yeah. Kirk Cousins, 67.1. Donald, 66. Carson Wentz, remember him? Over there. 65. Dobbs, 62.9. JJ. McCarthy, 52.9. But once again, he's not. technically a rookie, but kind of. Yeah. And this was a massive bet that the. Minnesota Vikings placed on JJ McCarthy. cuz they knew they had a team that could. go on a run. And are they saying Did I.

hear it right? Justin Jefferson's getting frustrated? Oh, yeah. I don't think that's true. Is. that true? Mhm. He was frustrated. yesterday, big time. They move up to. >> think about Justin Jefferson. You throw. it 10 ft in the area and he'll catch it. and this guy can't even do that. >> Yeah, his catch radius is maybe the. largest He's still in the NFL. He's. still controlling it, though. Oh, yeah. He was, you know, he wanted to slam his. helmet. Great teammate. And then he had. a great block uh of touchdown touchdown. run circling the C, so.

>> [laughter]. >> he's uh he he's holding on to hope, I. think. That was a good circle, by the. way, especially with the angle that the. C was. But I agree. I think Justin. Jefferson is like great leader and I. think the way he's always talked about, especially whenever they chose to go to. JJ McCarthy with all the success he's. had with everybody else him saying, "Hey, it's his team. I'm just here to. hopefully make him better." Addison the. same way. So I I hold nothing against. him, but boy, that's going to be tough. That's a tough pill for them all to. swallow. They're fighting for number one. seed in the NFC. And then now it's like, "Can we beat any good teams?" I don't. think so. He's I mean, Justin Jefferson,

I I understand him being a little bit. frustrated. I'm okay with that. I'm all. right with it. He's not going to get in. his quarterback's face on the sideline. He's frustrated in that, you know, the. lack of production on the offense. Yeah, he's allowed to be. And on that note, it looked like the overthrow Olympics. for a while. It did. >> Both of them. Just overthrow. And then. you you got Matt Stafford spinning it. And you watch him throwing and it's like. never missing. That guy's never missing. a thing. And then you see Josh Allen. doing his thing and it's like never. missing. Patrick Mahomes and Chiefs,

are they dead? Until they have [clears throat] 10. losses. Who do they have. >> [laughter]. >> Who do they have this week? They're not comfortable with it. That's right. [snorts] That's why we put. a question mark on it. Mhm. They have a. good bounce back opportunity this week. or Colts. Oh. Not that we. >> It is a good opportunity because Colts. are really good team. So if they beat. them, here we go. Both ways. Yeah. True. And the Colts, we don't know what Shane. Steichen is off of a bye week. We have. no idea. You know how they always have. those nights. Like, hey, insert name of. coach here after a bye, lot of games,

and then this. We don't know about Shane Shane's not. really had a football team since he's. been a head coach. True. Yeah, like 14. different quarterbacks different times. Almost took Gardner Minshew to the damn. [ __ ] Super Bowl. Boy. What? It's a [ __ ] murderers' row for. the Colts to finish out the season. That is not I mean, the Jags are for. real, man, too. Like this is Jags, yeah, they just pounded the Chargers. Texans. defense. Absolutely pounded the. Chargers. Yeah, Texans defense good. Can't see Chiefs Can't see Chiefs.

Niners. Seahawks in there? This is a good. looking row, boy. I mean, Pat The Pat's. sketch was pretty tough, too. Let's not. Let's not sleep on that one, too. Yeah, I mean, the Bengals difficult squad, especially after what just happened with. Steelers. The Giants, you never know. what you're going to get with them. It. was nice to see Scat and Boo and Jackson. Dart at the game. It was super super. super super [ __ ] dope. It was super dope. I like the way that was being reported. >> Supporter of the team. Look at these. guys. Good teammates coming to the game. Watch your teammates for being.

>> [laughter]. >> Where the hell are they supposed to be? I don't know. Kicking it Sunday. I don't know. Scat's. everywhere. Tell you what he got. Scat. is everywhere. He's beloved. He was at. the UFC fight. I saw a lot of people. wanted to take photos with him. He was. obviously I think he had the Knicks. game. He's shown up at to work. What you super dope. Home game. Yeah. Jordan Schultz reporting on the. arrival. I think it's super dope that. both Jackson Dart and Cam Scat and Boo. pulled up together to support their. Giants teammates. That's right. We're. showing up That is [ __ ] super dope. I.

I It is. And Deebo had a response, obviously, and. I agree. Showing up to work is pretty. dope, [laughter] Jordan. >> [screaming]. >> Pretty good response, Deebo. Normally, you can't hear all of the sarcasm and. condescendingness in a tweet, but that. one read really clear. It did. It read. really clear. Love Jordan, man. We do. And I do like that they're. spotlighting a positive, you know, Scat. and Boo and Jackson Dart coming to. support Yeah. I mean, that is good. Yeah, we can't be acting like that's. just.

a heroic thing to do. Mhm. Like that is. just like a part of the thing. Like. you're a part of the team. You're a. quarterback, but you're also a rookie. Kind of a requirement. Yeah. But I need backup quarterbacks getting. equal reps. Mhm. Going forward. I would. agree. But in the CBA. Yeah. Well, CBA. We'll talk about report cards with the. NFL and the NFLPA with JJ Watt on. Wednesday. He is a very excited for that. discussion. >> He is We could talk about it now. We. could have talked about it on Friday. We.

could talk about it tomorrow. But it. would all be a wasted conversation until. JJ Watt gets on here. So this is a. teaser. On Wednesday, JJ Watt has a lot. to say about the NFL and the NFLPA's. report card gimmick that's currently out. there right now. Where the NFL has said. to the NFLPA, "Yeah, we're not doing it. We're filing a grievance. You're not. allowed to do these report cards. anymore." JJ has some thoughts and we'll. talk to him about that on Wednesday. I. think he's going to be on the. um. on the player side. Sure.

I can't wait. It's a good team. He is an. owner. You never know. He might He might see. the other side of the coin now. >> Point. Wow. Do they do them over there? No, they just kind of ship them out. What do you mean? The players? >> his his soccer teams Do his soccer teams. get report cards done on them? I wonder. if Espanyol is doing that and maybe. maybe they just. Maybe they do just ship them out of town. if they vote bad. Maybe it's a setup. Hey, what do you think of our building? Guy gives an F. Sweet. Get him out of.

We're We're selling you for 250 euro a. week. >> [laughter]. >> Let's go to the next overreaction, shall. we? We do not know if there's report. cards. Let's go to Jared @Jareds. 53. #IDontWantToOverreact, but the. Eagles can't run the ball. The Eagles. can't throw the ball. The Eagles can't. control AJ Brown. You know what else the. Eagles can't do? Lose. Keep counting. them out. All you dumb asses will learn. when they repeat. #Fly. Eagles fly. #GoBirds. Coop looks super.

cool up there in the owner's suite. Love. that he rides or dies with this. Philadelphia Eagles side. And I love the. fact that they think that they they. can't do anything. And I love that. there's so much drama, so much. controversy, so much [ __ ] being talked. in and or around the Philadelphia Eagles. at all times. And now we got people. saying that that's Jared Goof and that's. how good the Philadelphia Eagles play. all the time. This team somehow performs. at its highest whenever it's its. loudest, when normally that is not the. case at all, Tone. Yeah, it's it's kind.

of like they're the new Chiefs. Like the. numbers are not good. Like throwing the. ball, running the ball, they are they. are not correct. But the defense over. the last few weeks has has come alive. since the additions that they have made. And they're All they do is win games. Like and they've earned the. um credit to where we cannot question. them anymore because all they do is win. and they do it every single year. And. then they get to the Super Bowl and they. win that game, too. So it doesn't even. matter. Wow, they look right now. You. know who helps out a lot whenever you. get to trade for Jalen Phillips. You. know, you trade for Jalen Phillips. And.

then Hembo sends us a stat and Jalen. Phillips has only been on the team for a. couple weeks, but whenever he's on the. field, uh the other team's quarterback. 16.7 QBR. Whenever he's not on the field. with this defense, 55.9. Okay? So this. guy has certainly been a part of some. destruction of game plans on the other. side of the ball. And uh shout out to. the Dolphins still winning after moving. on, but it feels like this Philadelphia. Eagles team just reloaded, restocked, and even though there's so much drama, they don't care, AJ. They just win.

games. Yeah, they just win. I I believe. I saw a stat where they've won what, 24. of the last 27 games? Is that true? Because that's These guys know how to. win. Like they absolutely know how to. win. Yeah, it doesn't look great, and. you're going to say, "Hey, this is going. to come back and bite them in the. playoffs when it matters." This defense. though, they are absolutely rolling at. all three levels, and they're fun to. watch, and that's like we say, if you. have a defense that can dominate a game, I think you always have a chance to win. it all. And you talk about teams that. win or are in contention year in and. year out, we always say it starts from. the top down, and Howie, whenever.

there's an opportunity to make this team. better, he goes out and put and put it. out there and and go go and get a. Phillips, go and draft uh Campbell, even. though you have Dean who's banged up. And Kobe Dean being back, he's been. great. Zack Born, they went and found. him, paid him. Like this defense, Jordan. Davis, drafted him, he's playing great. Like it starts up front, but on the back. end, Cooper, the safeties. Quinyon Mitchell, I mean, he is. unbelievable. Probably the best press. corner day in and day out in the NFL. right now. So, they have all the pieces.

offensively. They definitely got to. figure it out and score more points, but. you talk about winning ball games. Like. if you look at Sirianni and where he. ranks amongst coaches and wins in their. first however many games, he's up there. with probably I would I would assume. surrounded by all Hall of Famers. So, they find a way to win games. regardless of where they are in the. season. So, I mean, [ __ ] anytime you see. him on the headline, it's "What's wrong. with the Eagles? AJ Brown, can they do. this? Can they do that?" And we'll look. and be a week 18, and they'll be [ __ ]. 15 and two. That's Eagles football.

>> Mhm. That's Sirianni football. >> Yep. Always noise, always winning, and. they have to circle or cycle. coordinators as well. It's a beautiful. thing. Let's go to the next. overreaction. This is from Aaron. Clinton. At hi, my name is Ninja. What's. up, Ninja? #I don't want to overreact, but Chiefs are dead. O-line worse than. last year. Nagy hates winning again. Defense looked lost all game. What are. we doing? Trade Reagor and Bryan to. Chicago. Bring Joe back here and run the. [ __ ] ball under center. #sameoldchiefs.

Wow. Jeez. A lot of Chiefs fans bummed. out time. >> Yeah, a lot of Chiefs fans bummed out. And I don't know why, but, you know, people just don't like Matt Nagy. He's. taking a lot of strays. I was like, how. much is this guy actually doing? But. [laughter] Chiefs fans, they think he's. the one calling the plays, calling the. defensive plays, making the special. teams decisions. People [ __ ] hate. Matt Nagy. >> Not everybody. >> Not everybody, but A lot of people. A. lot of people. Yeah. That's life in in.

football, especially when you were a. head coach and it didn't go well. And. whenever you're known by everybody, and. when you go to a dynasty and obviously. have immediate success, but then it. unravels, you're going to be the one. that's What is it? Andy Reid? No. Is it Patrick Mahomes? No. No. So, who's it It's got to be this other. guy. Who is this guy? >> Dave Toub, no. No. It's not Toub, special teams guy. No. Why is this other. guy around? It's not any of the players. No, we've seen them. They're all Hall of. Famers. They've won before. Why is this. guy.

This guy [ __ ] drafted Mitch Trubisky. Get him out. Get him the [ __ ] out of. town. Good luck out there, Nagy. And to the. Chiefs, we don't know if you're dead, but I don't like even talking about it. Let's go to the next overreaction, shall. we? Uh this one's from Sir Thang. #what. Is that something? That I couldn't tell, and his uh profile picture was just kind. of like a black blob, so I wasn't sure. Is that from a movie? That's not a video. game or something. >> It might be some like anime [ __ ]. that I don't know about, but I'm not.

sure. #I don't want to overreact, but I. hate Todd Bowles as a coach with all my. heart and being. Can't believe I got duped into thinking. he's a decent coach for 10 seconds. Bucs. D got ran over faster than Mufasa. getting crushed by a stampede. That was. sad. That was very sad and fast. Let the. Bowles era end. #firetoddbowles. Is that how Tampa's feeling after what. happened against the Bills? >> Yeah, this was basically every Tampa Bay. overreaction was like Todd Bowles sucks. It's time for this to end. He's the head.

coach, obviously defensive coach as. well. He's going to be the one that's. going to feel the heat if a quarterback. does something historic against you on a. Sunday in the NFL season. I think this. team has been good though, and on. defensive side, it feels like they. unload the clip early, and maybe get. everybody confused, and then if you can. figure it out, you're in a good spot. If. you can't, you're going to be under. water for its entirety. I don't know if. you can win a lot of like playoff games. against a lot of great players like. that. AJ, what are your thoughts on the. Bucs defense? Cuz I think we're just. singing their praises a couple weeks. ago. Yeah, obviously it would be a bad.

day. It starts at the top. Like that guy. is unbelievable. But yeah, I don't know. I I would chalk this one up to, "Hey, we. ran into an absolute juggernaut. Josh. Allen's awesome. He's a stud. We were. playing at their place." Yeah, they did. turn him over early. They turned him. over twice and got two picks on him. Credit to Josh Allen for coming back. from that, but I don't know. I can't. count the Bucs out, but yeah, this was. concerning, but I would say, "Hey, we. ran into a guy who was playing lights. out. He scored six touchdowns on us. Let's move on to next week.". >> Yeah, let's move on as fast as possible, and it sounds like they're trying to do. that from coach Todd Bowles. He'll stay.

isolated from it though. He won't hear. the noise. They'll keep going. They got. a lot on the line still, that Buccaneers. team. Let's go to the next overreaction. This one's from AJ Swings at dog acts. fish. #I don't want to overreact, but. the Rams are frauds. Well. In a game. where we got vintage Sammy Ghost Donald. throwing four picks, the Rams only. squeaked out a two-point win on a missed. field goal attempt. Hawks still run the. West. AJ Swings says that's one game for. Sam. That's not the rest of the season. We played our worst ball, and they only. won by two. Sounds fake to me. How do.

you feel about that take from dog acts. fish? Oh, yes. That's exactly how a. Seahawks fan, which I assume that guy. is, is supposed to feel after that game. You throw the ball away four times, and. yet you only come up short by two. points. I feel him. I don't think that's. overreaction. I think he They still You. heard Puka talk about him. They still. got a bunch of dogs barking over there. And I love the fact that the Seahawks, they clearly still have Sam Darnold's. back. You heard some of his teammates. speak after the game about him. So, I. think Sam will bounce back from this. one. Yeah, actually said, "Hey, you got.

something to say, [ __ ] you." Yeah, I. love that. I love everything about that. Who was the Uh Ernest Jones the fourth, who was also kind of in the rumor mill. during the trade deadline. So, for him. to say that, that's pretty awesome. Yeah, I love the way he sticks up for. his team. I think it's an incredible. culture. And also, Jason Myers hits all. the field goals for the team all game. He's been a like a steady steady steady. person for that Seattle Seahawks uh team. throughout all the years. Him missing. that 61-yarder is heartbreaking. He had. a hell of a game. >> Yeah, he did. Had a hell of a game, and. then has a 61-yarder to win this thing,

and uh that thing just drifts to his. right on a slice. If he hits that a. little cleaner, I think it goes through, obviously. Uh but Jason Myers does big. has a huge game for the Rams can't or. for. uh the Seahawks can't take it home. I guess you should be a little worried. if you're the Rams, huh? No. No, absolutely not. It's just a good. ball game. >> Big win for first place? Like. Big win for your team. >> 11 and one on the road. No, I mean, but. I guess 11 and two now. Yeah, what. What a monster Matthew Stafford, the. year he's having right now. And that.

defense, outrageous. They're young and. they're hungry. Let's go to the next. overreaction. This is from Bills Mafia. 1018 at Colby2281. @PatMcAfeeShow, #I don't want to. overreact, but the Buffalo Bills are all. the way back. Josh Allen's big country. ass, he's rumbling and stumbling for six. tds. Joe Brady is a [ __ ] sicko. Cole. Bishop is a junkyard dog. The Colts and. Pats have been put on notice. No one and. we mean. no one circles the wagons like the.

Buffalo Bills. Cheers. Is your defense. good enough to win? That's the only question we have to. Colby and the Buffalo Bills now. >> What do you think? >> so. They hope so. I don't I mean, I. don't know right now. We definitely. don't know. Their offense is good enough. to win it all, but is your deep Can your. defense hold up when it truly matters? I. don't know. We'll see. They can prove to. us that they are. Josh Allen in a. shootout, I think we all like. I think. we certainly like. But if the defense is. able to get a stop on Josh Allen a. couple times, will you be able to answer. that on the other side whenever push. comes to shove? That's the only.

question. >> Well, the best, you know, defense for. Josh Allen is to keep him off the field, and if you can't stop the run, a team's. just going to, you know, run it 15 times. every possession. And, you know, then. then it's like, "Hey, guess what? You. have to score a touchdown on every. single possession if you're the Bills.". As a team in the AFC. uh who is on a historically great. running season, Mhm. I am very pumped. that the Buffalo Bills seemingly. weakness at this point is their rush. defense as a Colts fan. Now, it's all. matchups, obviously, whenever you get to. the playoffs, which we all assume we all.

are going to be there. So, if you happen. to run into a team that can just take. the air out of the game completely, and. Josh Allen touches it three times a. half, four times a half, like what what. do you do? How do And let alone if your. defense gets a stop on Josh Allen one or. two times. Like how does it go? I guess. that's a question mark. They still got a. lot of time to figure it out. They still. got a lot of time to figure it out. Let's go to the next overreaction, shall. we? This is I miss Brad Lambert at will. be hardigan. #I don't want to overreact, but Bryce Young just solidified himself.

as a franchise quarterback. Franchise. record, 448 on one of the top pass. defenses in the league. Falcons need to. extend Raheem Morris. Four out of 12 of. Bryce's wins are against the dirty. birds. Move over, Arthur Blank. Bryce. owns you. Shout out to the Carolina. Panthers seemingly getting a team, and. shout out to Bryce Young. Obviously got. benched last year, and then comes back. in, they found something special. David. Canales down in Tampa Bay with Baker. Mayfield was sweet. Now, they're trying. to do the same thing in Carolina. And. for the Atlanta Falcons, it's just.

another situation where we have no idea. who they are, what they are. Tet. McMillan obviously is a stud for the. Carolina Panthers. Rico Dowdle, special. Bryce Young's finding his groove. Are. the Carolina Panthers building for. tomorrow or today? Very good ball club, you know, a winning team right now, and. to be down like this on the road against. divisional opponent and the fight back. Xavier Lee get making another play. He's. had kind of an up and down season and. then you mentioned it T-Mac out there. being special. He's a he's a weapon. You. know, Atlanta obviously has Drake London.

and the Panthers went out got T-Mac in. the top of the draft this year and he's. been special but Bryce Young put on an. absolute show. This Bryce Young. yesterday and obviously is, you know, throwing for 450 yards. You're not going. to do that week in and week out but this. is why he was drafted number one. overall. He's obviously a small guy. So. he it was going to be an outlier to be. successful in the National Football. League with that frame but he was. compared to Steph Curry. He was like the. Steph Curry coming into the draft and. watching him play yesterday it gave you. Steph Curry vibes. He was he was on. fire. I love where the Panthers are at. right now and they're kind of I wouldn't.

call it a full rebuild because you have. your quarterback and you have your GM, you have your head coach but I think. they're heading in the right direction. >> Congratulations to the Carolina Panthers. and Steph Curry moving on from Under. Armour. Yeah. Two Yeah. Wearing Nike shoes, right? First game back. >> Yeah. And then they win and he goes crazy and. then that's certainly a sign made from. the basketball gods. That felt like a. big deal though cuz I took a trip down. memory lane with Steph Curry and Under. Armour. Remember the nurse Curry's and. then the grass cutter ones and then now. where they ended up at? I mean that was. a special development, a special growth. That was big for sports I think AJ. He.

started like his whole the whole golf. line I feel like with Under Armour as. well. Like he's so in so deep with them. Like what happened? Did his contract. just run out and they didn't renew it? He didn't want to go? Like what I don't. understand. It fell apart. Yeah, they. re-up He had a pretty large contract. I. don't remember all the details a couple. years ago I feel like and he still he. still owns the Curry brand. Now it it. will be separate from UA. So wherever he. goes, whether it's Nike or Reebok, wherever he goes, he'll still have that. Curry brand. I'm sure all the. initiatives and the golf stuff and he's.

been sponsoring like golf teams and all. type of [ __ ] So I'm sure it will still. go but this is obviously huge in the. sneaker landscape but I think it was. just a different of routes for Under. Armour and where Steph Curry wanted to. go. I mean [ __ ] he's he's their most. their biggest. Yeah, I know Justin. Jefferson is their biggest probably. football player but as far as basketball. player, global superstar like Steph. Curry is that. Yeah, click-clack until. now. I mean they AJ had to go through. with Under Armour where they were trying. to figure out how to make cleats. Just. like Jordan in the documentary talked.

about how they had to figure out how to. make basketball shoes. His feet were. bleeding at the end of games cuz of how. the technology was then. Happens with. shoes as well. That's why like normally. the first round of shoes for any company. is ass cuz they're trying to find it and. figure it out and those Curry ones we. supported cuz we liked the way Steph. Curry played. Those first couple pairs. of shoes were the shittiest. on the market. I mean the shittiest on. the market. The way they felt and looked. were just ass and then like they they. continued to evolve and I think they got. like good and it was like I thought they. were going to continue to go. So.

whenever I saw it I'm like, man, you. guys went through a lot of hard times. together. And You guys you guys got. cooked together pretty good there for a. while. >> was having bad ankle issues where people. thought like, oh, this he's not going to. be able to play for, you know, six, eight, 10 years in the league and now. from what it be what, year 16 or 17 and, you know, he's been relatively healthy. for the most part of that. So that was. that was huge. So it's a huge move for. him to go to a different completely. different shoe brand now at this stage. of his career. Well, like you mentioned. it as like a joke but like that's those.

first pair, like that's all they were. good for was like mowing your grass in. Like you you didn't do you couldn't do. anything else with those and and even if. you did that you're cutting the lawn and. then you're done. You're like, Jesus. Christ, I got [ __ ] blisters all over. my feet. Like that was a Steph was. somehow going out there Yeah. and. filling the bu- It was like I thought. they had a great maybe forever thing. Obviously, great work by you two and. what you built. It was still a special. relationship. Last overreaction here from Chris. Nichols who's hashtag I don't want to. overreact but the Jacksonville Jaguars.

continue to make zero sense. If you're. playing your franchise QB we might whoop. that ass. Put a backup in and we can't. do nothing right. I don't know if the. Jags are a playoff team or not yet, says. Chris Nichols. Huge win. I think you. should just celebrate that. And that's the overreactions. Let's make. our picks for tonight. Dallas Cowboys. take on the Las Vegas Raiders. Are the. Cowboys still favored by three and a. half Tone Digg? Yes, I just checked. It's three and a half across the board. Third 68% of the public bets were on.

Dallas before the show started. Has that. number moved? >> 71 ON THE COWBOYS. WOW, OVER 70% NOW. Can you tell me how that's doing as. opposed to maybe earlier in the season? So this weekend any any teams getting. over 60% of the bets were four, six and. one. That's it's been around 500 but on. the losing side for the last few weeks. Earlier in the season people were just. getting destroyed like one and four, 0. and five, stuff like that. So it's been. getting better but still haven't had a.

winning week yet. >> Okay, so AJ, let's check out where you. and I stand. Okay. I've never run away. Wow, I'm I'm. starting to really make a run back into. this thing. I was down early. All my. juice was over on college football. The. NFL picks were not fantastic. Now seems. like I'm maybe making a push to make. this thing. Now we're five, five and one as a whole. you and me after tonight and. obviously it feels as if any game can go. any way. That's why picking against the spread is.

insane and that's why sportsbooks are. continuing to evolve and every. sportsbook is able to make money. nowadays except for one somehow. Yep. Still don't know how that worked. I. think why do you say I lost the. Jacksonville game? Jacksonville was plus. three on that last graphic. You saying he got bamboozled here a. little bit? I picked Jacksonville and they blew them. out. Oh yeah, you are. You should be. It's a tie maybe here. Oh yeah, it's. going for A TIE TONIGHT. SIX, seven and one. Oh, that's six, seven.

Six, seven and one. Yeah. Okay, so hey, a lot on the line here tonight. D Butch, your thoughts on the Dallas Cowboys. favored by three and a half getting 71%. of the money going into Las Vegas. At. first glance this looks like an absolute. stinker but we got two quarterbacks who. at any given time can put up a ton of. yards and score a ton of points. I am. excited to see Quinnen Williams debut. and also overshown coming back for this. Dallas Cowboys defense. So I'll give me. the Cowboys on the road to win and to.

cover the three and a half. I he was. talking about both quarterbacks. I've. just been seeing a lot of stuff and this. is not made up. A lot of uh Raiders fans. are interested to see if Kenny Pickett. makes a appearance tonight. Okay, maybe. a snap of for Kenny Pickett. That'll be. two gloves, two different days. Jared. Goff and Kenny Pickett. We shall see. Uh Darius Butler likes the 71% of the. people that are on Dallas minus three. and a half. AJ, who do you like? I like Dak Prescott and the Dallas. Cowboys as well. >> All right, me too. All right, final. picks. Let's get out of here. We'll see. you guys tomorrow. BE A FRIEND, TELL A. friend something nice. It might change.

your life or anything together. You are. the greatest people on Earth. Great work. today, boys. I appreciate you. Team on. me. Team on three. One, TWO, THREE, TEAM. GOODBYE.