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earth. And right now in the NHL Stanley. Cup finals, we have a tie series. In the. NBA finals, we have a tie series. And in. the NFL world, we have a lot of [ __ ] to. talk about. It is a wonderful time to be. a sports fan. It's a wonderful time to. have this as a profession. We can't. thank you enough for allowing us to do. this. We hope you had an incredible. 3-day weekend. A lot has happened and. we'll dive into all of it. The show is. packed today. We got Ian Rapaort of the. NFL Network joining us in about 10.

minutes or so for a hot five. Okay, hot. five. Quick five. Quick five. Holy hell. Who signed with the Steelers? Oh. Oh, wow. That guy just got released from. the Green Bay Packers. Oh wow. That. running back is now in Texas. Oh wow. A. lot going on around the NFL with. mandatory mini camps happening as we. speak. Quinton Richardson. Q Rich will. join us obviously to chitchat about. what's going on in the NBA finals. Don't. love how good SGA is. I seen it with.

Jaylen Brunson. Didn't love it with him. This SGA guy is a scoring wizard. I know. people call him a foul artist and they. say he's a a free throw merchant and all. these things, but whatever. What this. guy is able to do on a basketball court. is outrageous. Then Jaylen Williams, the. guy can just drop it from wherever. Chad. and uh uh Hardenstein, I almost called. him Hoglestein. I Hartinstein, I. apologize. Those two, whenever they're. on the on the court at the same time, which they were at times last night,

massive problem for the Indiana Pacers. The Pacers were able to steal one in the. greatest environment in the NBA is what. they call it. Now they come back to. Indianapolis Indiana tied 1-1. Caruso I. mean he's locked down defender too. I. mean let alone him shooting and. everything else he's doing. Absolute. lock down. Let alone the torture chamber. Lou Dort what he's been able to. accomplish. This Oklahoma City team. showcased why they were the best team in. the NBA last night whenever they beat. the hell out of the Indiana Pacers. Now, there was a time late, you know, uh when.

both sides decided to just sub out full. line changes. I thought to myself, we're. down 16 right now with like two minutes. This is kind of where the Indiana Pacers. kind of do their thing. Coach Carlile. pulled everybody. They pulled everybody. We move on to game three on Wednesday. We would like to say shout out to. Oklahoma City getting a win at home. Shout out to the Pacers stealing the. first game. Shout out to the NBA. delivering. And shout out to uh I guess. to us. We're gonna be outside Gamebridge. once again for game three on Wednesday.

Come join us noon to 2ish 2:30ish. We'll. be down there in anticipation of game. three of the NBA finals. It also says. game four will be down there. That is. TBD. Okay, that is TBD. We We shall see. I mean, I think the plan is to do that. Let's see how Wednesday goes. The last. time we were down there, it was awesome. We assume it will be again, but let's. also uh let's not make any decisions on. anything too far in the future. Just. Wednesday, come join us if you're in. town. Doesn't matter if you're an. Oklahoma City fan or if you're a Pacer.

fan. Should be a blast. We assume we'll. be loaded with all the guests that come. into town for the game. It should be. fun. Now, the toxic tables here at. Boston Connor and at Tai Schmidt, one. half of the Hammer D Cowboys AP Tone is. here. Nine-year NFL vet Darius J. Butler. is here. But debut, I don't know if you. heard this or not. Uh Aaron Rogers is. officially a Pittsburgh Steeler. An entire off seasonason of chitchatting. about what the future could be for Aaron. Rogers. Is he going to retire? Was he. going to be a Minnesota Viking? Was he. going to be a New York Giant? We knew he.

wasn't going to be a New York Jet after. we heard that his conversation with the. Jets new head coach, a new general. manager last about 3 minutes after he. flew himself all the way across the. country to go shake their hands. They. kick him out of the building. What's. Aaron's next step? Is he going to retire. maybe and focus on something other than. ball for the rest of his life? maybe. continue to build up uh you know. knowledge and things that we had never. heard of before talking to them. Sure. Darkness retreats, IA ceremonies, uh the. enlightening of your body and your soul. to become the best you possible so you.

can provide to society. That is kind of. the journey that seemingly Aaron Rogers. has been on. What would his future be? We all wondered, including myself. Now. we know he is definitely a Pittsburgh. Steeler. It seemed as if all of. Pittsburgh thought he was going to be a. Steeler. It seemed as if all the. insiders thought he was going to be a. Steeler. He decided to announce on. Friday that he was going to be joining. the Pittsburgh Steelers. I wonder why. then, why now, and how long has he been. in the decision of becoming a Pittsburgh.

Steeler? He's making 10 million. guaranteed, 13.65 salary. That's it. Is that it? Yeah. 19.5 maximum value with another. 5.85 million in incentives. I assume. that's team based stuff. if you win, if. we go do this, go win the Super Bowl. with that team. I think they're thinking. with one weapon like DK Mechaf, which. they brought in for 30 million with one. quarterback that can maybe operate this. offense that Arthur Smith wants to be. able to operate. If we can keep TJ Watt, which they're still going to have to. figure out, we're a team that can.

contend. We're above 500 with absolute. crap on the offensive side of the ball. If Aaron can come in here and. metriculate the ball down the field and. eat up some clock, make smart choices, not have any turnovers, the Pittsburgh. Steelers are dancing in the playoffs yet. again. And once they get into the. playoffs, who knows? Especially with how. good their defense is. I assume that's. how all of Pittsburgh feels. Let's go to. one half of the hammer. Cowboys AP tone. You guys excited that Aaron has. officially announced that he's a. Pittsburgh Steeler? And what are your. thoughts and expectations for the team?

cuz just last week I think you and many. Steelers fans were saying, "Who cares? We're not going to win Super Bowl with. or without him. Who cares?" Has that. changed at all? Is there any sense of. hope for a team going into an NFL season. that maybe you can climb the top of the. mountain? I'm glad you brought up last. week and how, you know, users and and me. in particular have been acting the last. couple months. Um, you know, when when. the Aaron news first came out months and. months ago that there was a chance that. he would come to the Pittsburgh. Steelers, I stood on the soap box and. said, "We need to get Aaron Rogers. He's.

he's a much better option than Justin. Fields. He's a much better option than. Russell Wilson and whoever else is out. there." And then came that lull period. where, you know, we started questioning. whether he was going to come to the. Pittsburgh Steelers or not. And we had. to champion Mason Rudolph during those. times. And and you know during those. times maybe we did throw some shots at. Aaron for squirting water guns on stage. and and doing stuff like that and that. was only because Pat and you know this. uh yeah we did not he's saying we. Steelers fans. the formal we making sure because he was.

going through stuff in his personal. life. He explained more on Joe Rogan. He. had two people in his inner circle that. were going through cancer. People that. are around him on a regular basis depend. upon him as their employer that he felt. obligated to attend. And if you look. back to last year with the Jets, he was. at all the voluntary stuff with the New. York Jets. All of it. Literally all of. it. And then the mandatory OTAA or. mandatory mini camp weekend just so. happened to come on June 12th, 2024. 6124. Now, we do not know if the date.

has any reason for that, but he had to. go to Egypt. A trip that he had planned. in advance as a 40-year-old. He planned. this trip to Egypt a few years. I don't. know if it was last year or something. like that. Once in a lifetime. Yeah, that's what he said. He said it was a. once in a-lifetime trip to Egypt. He. misses mandatory mini camp was that. everything literally for the first time. in his career since he was like a. rookie. Everything else missed that. It. became this massive story of how selfish. he was, how uh he didn't want to win, how he wasn't bought in, all the. negative stuff came. So, he approached.

this off season from what he told us. I. know nothing other than what he said on. our show. Just to clarify for everybody, what he said on our show was he didn't. want it to be like last year. He was. very upfront with everybody. said that. he was not going to be able to attend. the OTAAS. He had the two people in his. inner circle that were going through. things. He's also uh I think he had a. couple other obligations that he set up. for his schedule. So, he was like, I. don't want to sign with a team and then. have us go through exactly what we went. through last year when I'm not going to. be able to be there. So, look for a. decision to be made after OTAAS. This. one happens after voluntary OTAAS, right.

before mandatory OTAAS. Did not expect. this to be the time frame for him to do. it. We thought he was going to do it in. the summer, but before mentor mini camp. feels like the right move for him and. obviously a good thing for the. Pittsburgh Steelers. Yeah, it's. absolutely perfect timing. And you know, uh, as I know, uh, being a man from. Pittsburgh, we don't like to set. ourselves up to be vulnerable. So, I. think the the fan base as a whole was. like, "Yeah, we don't want them. Yeah, we don't want them. We don't need them.". But then you finally you realize your. real feelings when it finally happens. And I was honestly super pumped when he. signed. Um, you know, I started looking.

into things in 2019. The Bucks were 7-9. Oh, and then they got Tom Brady the next. year and won a Super Bowl. Okay, he was. 43 years old. Pton Manning the Broncos. in 2011. They were eight and eight. And. then Pton Manning comes over as a. 40-year-old. He they won a Super Bowl. Okay. Aaron Rogers, a fourtime MVP. He's. 41. You know, he leaves the the great. Green Bay franchise, comes over the. Steelers. Yeah, sure. There was two. years of the Jets. They don't count. They're not a real franchise. So, he. comes over to a team that was 10 and. seven last year and he's 41 years out.

years years old. I think the fan base is. pumped and I who says no? I'm thinking. Super Bowl. Okay, it's great to hear. because I was bummed out for you guys. Yeah, because if you as a 10 and seven. team last year are thinking we can't win. the Super Bowl, who is allowed to think. in the offseason that they could win a. Super Bowl? I see Mason Rudolph doing. all this stuff, talking at rallies, throwing out pitches. He's he's getting. the boys together. You know, he's doing. a lot of frontman first quarterback. things. There's a new sheriff in town. I.

think he understands that. I think Aaron. understands that and I think this was. the Steelers plan all along. Tomlin and. Aaron have great respect for each other. and Tomlin decided not to get any other. quarterbacks I think out of a display of. like hey we want you here. How do you. feel about it and what do you think. inevitably happens? Uh you know I like. it for the Steelers. Uh if I was a. Steelers fan I may feel differently. because now you are your true. expectations to win a Super Bowl maybe. if you're being super optimistic. Yeah. But I mean you it kind of sets you up to. kind of stay in that uh quarterback.

purgatory because of what you're playing. beyond Aaron for the future. But for. this year, he definitely gives you your. best chance to win. Now the expectations. when he went to the Jets because they. had that great defense on paper. He. brought over some more weapons. They had. great weapons already there. The. expectation there was Connor picked him. to win the Super Bowl going into the. season. So those were the real. expectations at that point. You talked. about Brady, you talked about Manning, two anomalies, you know what I mean? and. Aaron Rogers will be on that Mount. Rushmore quarterbacks right there with. him. But you look at those teams and how.

they were built. The Bucks had a really. good defense. Mike Evans, Hall of Famer. on offense. Chris Godwin, the Broncos, couple great players on offense as well. Hall of Fame level, Hall of Famers all. over that defense. So, that team was. built for a quarterback to come in and. not really carry the team even though. Tom Brady did get hot late. So, um, can. Aaron do it? He he'll always be able to. spin the ball. Absolutely. But, I think. it's a lot more building. you still need. for that Steelers to really go and. compete and it starts with the offense. having some real weapons and then the. defense showing up and showing you know. why they are one of the most expensive.

defenses in the league. Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, is senior insider. for NFL Network, a friend of the. program, host of the weekly wrap-up of. Rap Sheet and Friends. Us being a. friends, he being rap sheet. Ladies and. gentlemen, Ian Rapore. rap. What's going on, buddy? What's. happening? How are you guys? Hey, everything is great over here. We hope. the same for you. Not as much pizzazz as. a few weeks back. I'm worried. I'm a. little bit worried about the pizzazz. Yeah. Yeah. You need to up my per. personal pizzazz. Yes.

Low. Okay. It's been low. Aaron signed. before you went on vacation. You should. be happy. Yeah, that's Let's get right. into it. No, actually the the the. signing was perfectly timed cuz I played. golf in the morning and then it became. clear in the afternoon. I actually had. just hopped off the Pelaton and I was. ready. So, it was actually the timing. was great for me. Okay, so let's talk. about the timing. It is before the. mandatory mini camp for the Pittsburgh. Steelers. Aaron Rogers officially signs. one year 10 million. I don't know if you. were one of the [ __ ] that was. reporting he was going to want 40. million or something, but there was a.

lot of you guys. Well, sorry. A lot of. people in your uh vein of existence that. were saying that the reason why nobody. was signing him is because the amount of. money, the reason why he hadn't signed. with the Steelers cuz he was commanding. and demanding a massive contract, especially with whatever people were. making. We reported very early in the. process that that was not true. I think. we even said 10 million bucks is about. the number that it would probably take. for Aaron. He's not looking to get rich. He just wants to look for another. chance. He played it on this show,

didn't he? Yes. And before he said it on. the show, we reported that Source Siz. had told us something, but obviously. nobody listened to us because we wear. t-shirts and talk about sports better. than they do. Uh, now with that being. said, how long has this deal been the. framework? Has this been the offer since. the beginning from the Steelers to. Aaron? And why do you think Aaron chose. this time to sign? And what are the. Steelers saying behind the scenes? Okay. Uh, we'll get to the offer first. um the. 10 million number made sense and like if.

you're going to sign a a quarterback who. has done what Aaron Rogers has done and. you know was was on the open market but. it was different cuz it's not like he. was like all right I'm going to the. highest bidder like he's very selective. not that many teams from when I got the. sense we're in the mix cuz you know he's. not going to go to a team that doesn't. have a chance for instance he's not. going to go you know some team that's. rebuilding so it's actually very limited. so the way you do a deal for a guy like. Aaron Rogers is you're kind of like what.

would it take for you to play? Like. that's basically how the Steelers would. do it and like there's a really good. history of really good veteran. accomplished decorated quarterbacks in. the final, let's say, one or maybe two. years of their career taking less. Brady. took less. Payton took less. Elway took. less. Uh all a lot of these guys do it. to give the team Yeah, that's another. one. Exactly right. Uh, and I know it it. hurt his agent Tom Conan, but like this.

is what you do it so the team can build. around you. The Steelers aren't done. building also, but like this is sort of. why you do it. You take a low salary and. you say, "I'm not doing this for the. money." Um, and you kind of just hope. the team loads up around you. I would. also say I always kind of weirdly got. the sense that. Rogers was uncomfortable making so much. money. Like I don't that sounds weird to. say maybe, but like I kind of got the. sense he didn't like how it felt to make.

so much. So like this is probably. something a little more. Yeah. Yeah. I think you're right, Ian. I. think you're right. Yeah. Good take. I. like that. Yeah. But I do think he was. very comfortable with uh whatever team. he was to go to next, whatever team it. was to be after the Jets. Even if it was. the Jets, I think he went in there. willing to restructure in the old. conversation. Took a pay cut there. I. think he Exactly. Even when he was. there, he took a pay cut. I think he. wants a good team. I I think he wants. another run. I think that's what all. these OGs want, which is why they're.

willing to take a little bit less. Let's. stick with the Pittsburgh Steelers cuz. we have to uh kind of roll here. TJ Watt. deal now. Next on deck. Is that kind of. the idea here? Yeah, I don't get the. sense it'll be immediate. These things. take time. They I don't know why. They. just they always do. Um so yeah, I mean. this is, you know, something that is. ongoing. You know, we'll see if he's. there for mandatory mini camp. Rarely do. players give up guaranteed, you know, give up money. Rarely do players take. fines, but some do. So, we might see a.

couple players stay away. Um, you know, there's a couple who hang in the. balance. I mean, TJ Watt is is one. Terry McLaren is another. Um, but yeah, I mean, this is the next big deal for. the Steelers to do. I believe it's going. to happen. I believe they'll get to a. number that everyone can be happy with. It just hasn't happened yet. While the. edge, that's such a great play. while. the edge market is kind of a little bit. in flux with Trey Hendrickson and Micah. not done like this is another one that. we're kind of waiting on. Okay, so TJ,

you bring up Terry McLaren. He left. OTAAS. Is that accurate? I believe he showed up init I'm not sure. if he left or I don't know how much he. was there to begin with, but I know he. was not there for a lot of it and I. would say very much up in the air. whether he shows up this week at a. contract situation that as of right now. is not great. Okay, we'd love to have. him back here in Indianapolis. He is an. Indianapolis kid. Feels like this. happens every couple years with Terry. McLaren and all he does is show up and. deliver on the field. You got Jaden. Daniels, you got Cliff Kingsbury. You. had the magical run you had last year.

Let's assume they keep Terry around. Let's assume TJ stays with Pittsburgh. Hopefully that starts expediting. quickly. Let's talk about this secondary. market now. Jier Alexander gets released. from the Green Bay Packers this morning. You thought they were going to. potentially get a deal done. Thought it. got quiet. It has not. Clearly, they. make the announcement, the bird call. Hey, we're going to release Jier. Alexander. Now, this obviously means. other teams can put together some trade. proposals here in the next four hours or. so to maybe steal him from getting. released and take a trade, but with him,

Jaylen Ramsay, Stefan Gilmore, there's a. lot in the DB room still available. What. do you think is next for Jire? Yeah, I you're right. I was a little. surprised because he's really talented. He's like not a bad guy. like there's no. like you know it's he's a little bit. different and really hilarious honestly. but uh not a bad guy. It just uh really. what the Packers tried to do a deal. before the draft. I know they did. Um. couldn't come couldn't come up with a. team that wanted to pay $15.3 million.

for Jaier Alexander offered him a. restructured deal which I believe was a. pay cut and he just never really dug in. on that. And I think, you know, sort of. part of the thought was like, if it's. not going to be Green Bay, let me pick. Let me go find a place. He's going to. make some money. He's going to make some. real money. He's made some in the past, but let me pick. I mean, he's 28. He is. a probo caliber player with sick ball. skills. Like, these guys are not often. available. So, I think he's going to.

have a real market. It might, you know, it might be before training camp or he. might decide to wait a little bit. because he's in no hurry. But, it's rare. that these guys are actually on the. market. Got it. Is he healthy? Yes, I believe he is healthy. Last year. ended not great. Uh but I believe is and. has been healthy. Yes. Set back. Phenomenal player. Everything Rapi said. last four seasons only one season with. over 600 snaps. So that's the thing. That's the thing for sure. He'll. probably be incentive laden contract, but he is he's worth taking a shot on.

for sure. Yeah, absolutely. Come to. Indianapolis, brother. We'd love to see. you and we'll make you captain when. you're playing back in your hometown. We'll never ever forget it. Uh, Chub. going to Houston Texans. Is there. anything else in the NFL world that. we've missed? That's a huge signing. Chub going anywhere is a big deal. If. he's anywhere near what he was, Yeah. this is a massive get for the Houston. Texans. Is there any other signing that. uh or any other things happening around. the NFL we've missed? Uh, first, I like.

this one. Uh, yeah, me. I hate it. We'll. see how we'll see how much he has left. if he's close to what he was, I mean, look look if he's close to what he was, him and Joe Mixon are going to be a. yeah, insanely physical duo. Um, the. only thing I would say that you guys. missed, so I I like this signing. This. should be official today. I believe he's. going to pass a physical. Only thing you. guys missed was David Chang, um the. respected chef, uh and personality, was. on Good Morning Football this week, named his five best uh NFL cities with.

regards to their best sandwiches. Okay. And left out Pittsburgh. Yeah. So, he. sucks. That's what I heard. That guy. sucks. I mean, Pittsburgh to me is top. three sandwich place in the country. Top. three. We are a sandwich city. That is. literally what we are tier one. Why is. this guy on television talking about. sports if he doesn't even know how to. talk about [ __ ] food? This guy's a. chef. He is a celebrity chef. Yeah. What's his name? David Chang. Maroku. He's great. Hey, David Chang, shut the.

[ __ ] up. Not going there. How about. that? Yeah. Yeah. I'm at the point now. where I don't care about any of these. [ __ ] bums. I I don't care about Who. is the commentators for TST? What are. these dudes name? Uh Hercules Gomez and. Sebastian Salazar, I believe. Bombs. Get. them off microphones. John Melanchamp. Bomb. Get him off microphone. This guy. Bomb. Get him off television. Be a. friend. Tell a friend something nice. It. might change their life. You know, uh, sometimes you got to say the right.

thing. Uh, and last one here, something. mean. Uh, Germaine Pratt. Germaine. Pratt. Uh, Tom Pelisero literally just. reported while we were live, captain of. the Bengals, top 10 tackler for the. Bengals last year, has been released by. the Cincinnati Bengals. Uh, I have no. idea how much money he's making, but are. they trying to make a move here to get. money for Trey Hendrickson or is this. just them trying to shape up their. roster? You think Ian Rapaort? Well, first of all, you you always say like. come to Indie. This guy might actually. come to Indie. I mean, Luan Rumo is the.

Indie defensive coordinator. This was. one of his favorites. This actually does. make a lot of sense for Germaine Pratt. to land in Indie. So, I'll say that. Um, yes, this is good news for Trey. Henderson. We'll, you know, they got. mandatory mini camp. We'll see if. they're able to get a deal done. I know. they want to. This does free up some. cash. Things do not exist in a vacuum. We'll see if it ends up in a deal for. Trey. It saves $5.6 million for the. Cincinnati Bengals. So, every dollar. counts, especially whenever you're. trying to sign a big money sack king in.

Trey Hendrickson, if that is still what. they're trying to do. We appreciate the. hell out of you, Ian. You are not a bum. like Chef Chang. Chef Chang is great by the way. Mafu is. awesome and they have great sandwiches. there. Okay, bye. Yeah, I'll never eat. there. Uh, he's he's been on Good. Morning Football more than uh more than. Derek. No, Dost. I've never been on Good Morning. Football. Okay. It's a good show though. Emmy Emmy awardw winning. They got a. chef that doesn't know [ __ ]. sandwiches on talk about football. That. sounds interesting to me. I to be clear,

uh, Chef Chang, I I don't know anything. about you, but I know you don't know. [ __ ] Okay, ladies and gentlemen, you. wrap aboard. Why do you do that? I don't know. That's. on Monday. We got a long week ahead of. us. He knew exactly. There was no reason. for Is there anything else around the. NFL world? Oh, yeah. Uh, some guy said. your whole town sucks. Yeah. You know. what you guys are known for? You thought. you really had something to do. That's. like, yeah, I thought it was big. I. thought it was a big deal. I'm like, "Oh, sweet. We missed something." Like, there was going to be something to talk.

about and said Chef Chang. Why is this. guy on TV? Put his ass on [ __ ] one of. the food networks got [ __ ] all day. Yeah. Have him say dumb stuff over. there. Why is he saying dumb stuff on. football? We don't need that. Talking. about Pittsburgh not being a top five. sandwich in the NFL. That's only 32. cities. Well, I'm sorry. 30 cities. Yeah, cuz there's multiples. Yeah. New. York and LA. Oh, true. 30 out of 30. cities. Not every city in the. world. 30 cities in the United States of.

America. What was his list? Yeah. You. guys will have a public so pubs up. You mean you mean the grocery store? I'm. not Listen, your gas station subs are. nowhere near sheets. Like I I Which was. I don't even want to get into this, but. like our gas station sandwiches are. better than Chef Chang's top five list. if I had to. This You didn't even see. this pisses me. I don't need to see it. How about that? I don't need to see Chef. Chang ever again either. Not that I ever.

have. I have no He was the one. He was. lower right corner. Mhm. He was lower. right corner on Good Morning Football. Exactly. We had no sounds. Should have. been turning it up. Need to listen to. Chef Ch. Unbelievable. Not anymore. This piece of [ __ ] I got to see the. list. I want to see the list, too. You're telling me he's had Rudy subs? Has he has he had Rudy subs? Chef Chang. is the expert on sandwiches. Uh, New York. This is an order from 5 to. one. New York, Chicago, New Orleans, Los.

Angeles. I'm sorry, Philadelphia to Los. Angeles at one. Los Angeles. Los Angeles. is the number one sandwich. Not right now. Tell you that much. Hey, guess what? Guess what I'm not doing? Going to LA to grab a sandwich right. now. I was in LA on Saturday. Yeah, I. was in Los Angeles on Saturday. Lot. going on. Lot going on. Right down the. road down there, few hours south. San. Diego. Ura. Okay. I'm not going to say what the.

Paris Island people call the people that. come from that particular base or boot. camp or everything like that cuz I'm. nowhere near as tough as the people that. come from either of those places there. But there's two entry points I do. believe, you know, into the Marines. One. of them real close to everything that's. going on right there. Marines first to. fight. I do believe I don't know if. anybody in LA. wants Seafi to be walking up those. streets, right? I I I don't just. something to Oh my gosh. Lot going on.

We hope everybody gets figured out. Mhm. Figure it out. I put out a tweet this. morning like, "Let's have a positive. day. Let's have a good day." It's hard. after Chef Chang does. Mhm. You didn't. know that curveball was coming. Got I. put out a tweet like, "Hey, let's have a. good day. Let's have a good day." Had a. bunch of people tell me it's hard to. have a good day. With everything going. on in LA, it's like, "Okay, well, I wish. I could help." Okay. I can't. I think. this one's out of my control. I think. so. Uh but good luck to all parties. We. hope whoever wants to get it right gets. it right. And everybody's uh. they'll get it figured out. Yeah, they'll get it figured out. Those people.

who are down in the dumps, you should. tell them like, "Hey, well, you know, Chef Chang ranked LA number one city in. the country." Yeah. Go find a sandwich. Maybe that's what they need over there. Just eat some sandwiches over there. Calm everybody down. Their taste buds. will be so food trucks and just joining. us now, ladies and gentlemen. 13 year. We do We do hope everybody's But that. there's a lot going on over there. That. one's a lot algorithm. A lot of those. Oh, yeah. I think everybody's kind of. living in that right now. I saw some. people say it was peaceful. Yeah. Joining us now, ladies and. gentlemen, 13-year NBA vet, co-host of.

the knuckleheads podcast. Ladies and. gentlemen, friend of the program, Quinton Richardson, you rich. How you doing, boss? I'm good. I'm good. How you fellas doing, man, after last night? How's everybody doing. in the Thunderdome? Well, I'll tell you. what. West Virginia lost to LSU. Okay. West Virginia lost to LSU. Conca loses. to Pumba, Alabama. Yeah. Bad way. Bad. way. Pacers lose to Oklahoma City. Not. good. That was yesterday. Then this. morning, I wake up and I hear Chef Chang.

says that Pittsburgh isn't a top five. sandwich city in the NFL. It's been a. rough couple. It's been a rough go here. Okay, Q, Rich. But we'll talk. I felt. pretty I felt pretty good about hearing. Chicago was in there. I don't know who. this Chef Jane guy is. I mean, from the. sounds of it, he's not a real good guy. up in this room right now. So, I'm not. going to I mean, I did approve of him. having Chicago in there, though. Yeah. Sounds like you're a big fan. All the. big cities. This guy's got a big city. appeal. You know, he's uh I'll say he's. got pandering taste buds. I like that.

Sure. I like a good pandering taste bud. that Chef Chang has. He ain't never had. Ry subs in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. He. never had a whole Italian hot lettuce on. you, mayo. Let me get some fries on the. side with some cheese, please. And a. Turner's tea on the side also from. Pittsburgh. I know Chef Chen's never had. that. Okay. Well, in Permanis, I'm sure. he's maybe seen one. Sure. Oh, you got. the I don't like the fratties on my. sandwich. Shut up. Shut up. Never had a Rothberger. Donna. at Pepies. Ever in his life. Ever in his.

[ __ ] life. This guy. Let's move. along. Let's talk about sports. Ian. Rapaort should not have done what he. did. That was what 5 minutes into the. show. Yeah, it was distasteful. He knew. what he was doing. Speaking of. distasteful, Chef Chingle, that son of a. Let's talk basketball, please. Can we. Can we talk basketball? Let's do it. That was everything you guys wanted, huh? What happened last night? Everything that everybody wanted to. happen to the Indiana Pacers happened. last night. The Oklahoma City Thunder on.

the defensive side, dominant. On the. offensive side, magical. Pacers were. never able to really get going. It was. like a 20point game forever. Seemingly. at the end, you know, got down into the. teens, but they continued to answer, put. their foot down on the Indiana Pacers. because of what has already happened in. this series and what they have seen. the. Pacers do throughout the entire playoff. run. This is the Oklahoma City team that. everybody was expecting. This was how. everybody thought this series was going. to go. Q, Rich, or what is your. takeaway? Uh I my takeaway is like like I got to.

say this. I don't have a horse in the. race. So I'm just here to see good. basketball. I want the series to go as. long as it can, as far as it could go, just cuz I know after that we going to. be dead with basketball. It's going to. be no hoop for a minute. So I don't I'm. I'm I'm dreading that. But I if you look. at what the OKC Thunder have done after. they have lost the game this this year, this was the writing was all on the wall. for this to be a 15 to 20 point blowout. I said that yesterday. I was on Sports. Center and I said that and Hannah was. like whoa. I'm like but like if you look. at the evidence they've given when they.

lose a game that first of all they. hadn't lost a game two games back to. back since like 24 sometime sometime in. 2024. But the games this year when they. lose, you go look at the game they play. after they lose, they average like 25, 30 point blowout games every time after. they lose a game. So this the writing. was on the wall for this. And then just. the way that that first game happened, they should have really finished the. game. They just didn't do it that they. were already in that position to do the. same thing game one. So I knew being in. their home building, they would have.

that confidence to come back and get it. done last night. Their building is. awesome. And uh I'll tell you watching. them answer every single time like N. Smith would hit a three and it's like. here we go. This is exactly what we. needed. Then the next time down somebody. in Oklahoma City would do something. ridiculous, put the fire out and then. that crowd never really let it go. either. They were a huge part of the. momentum just continuing. They were. relentless and uh they won one at home. Congratulations to them. Let's talk. about a guy who is voted the most. overrated player in the league this.

season uh by his peers allegedly. Go. ahead, Tone. Yeah, Q. There was a lot of. talk this morning about that Tyrese. needs to maybe be more aggressive and. look to score more. Like is that. something you think he can do or should. do or just who he is to be more of a. facilitator? But like in or in the. finals, do you think he needs to look to. be more of a scorer? Uh yeah, I agree that he does need to. look to be more of a scorer because his. team needs that. But I think I think you. know the whole conversation around him. is kind of taken out of context, man.

They you can't ask somebody to be. something they're not. Yes, he has the. ultimate clutch game that when they get. into the clutch moment, we've seen him. time and time again hit the game-winning. shot or or a meaningful shot down the. stretch, and he has that ability to do. that. But if you look at what he's done, he's averaging 18.6 points. Asking him. to be this high volume scorer, that's. not who he's been. He's a pass first. player, but yes, he can score, but he's. not your guy. He's not Steph Curry who's. averaging 30 something points or close. to 30 and shooting all of the shots and.

things like that for his team. He's a. guy that uses his teammates. He He makes. his teammates better. He puts them in. position to score and do things. This. year, Pascal Seakum was the all-star. He. was the leading scoreer for the team. He. was the Eastern Conference Finals MVP. So, because Hallebertton has made these. shots and everybody wants him to be. something he's not. Just because he hits. gamewinners and things like that doesn't. mean that he has to go out there and. average 30 points. He's more of a Steve. Nash type player than a Steph Curry. He's a passer that gets everybody else.

going and makes everybody else better. So, I feel like because he's made these. game-winning shots, then people have. taken it out of context. Everybody want. to say, "Is he a superstar? Is he not?". Like to me, when I was playing in the. league, Pat, when we played, we looked. around at guys and we said, "Okay, are. you a allstar? Are you all NBA? Do you. make the Olympic team? Do you got a max. contract?" That's what matters. Like, if. he got He's got a super max contract. He's one of the best players on his. team. His teammates love playing with. him. makes everybody's better. He's an.

extension of his coach. He does what. he's supposed to do on the out there on. the court. He delivers for his team. I. don't really care about who's a. superstar not. Like in my mind, I got a. max deal. I'm playing. I'm a starter. I. helped my team. He made the Allstar last. year. He didn't make it this year, but. he was an Olympian. Like these are all. the benchmarks to be a superstar. You. see what I'm saying? So, like, if y'all. don't want to call me that, that's fine. I got the check that says so. I play. like it. So, that's all that matters to. me. my my like like you said the. disrespect from the peers with the.

overrated. I showed them what I thought. of that. If you if you go through the. entire playoff run here, okay, against. the Bucks, gamewinner against Giannis, literally right in front of his dad. Cleveland gamewinner this one. Yep. New. York Knicks this one. And then game one. in Oklahoma City, gamewinner to win a. finals game with like.3 left in the. thing. It's like the amount of moments. that this dude has had and created. through just this playoff like kind of. run alone is enough for an entire. career, let alone what's happening right.

now. He's Hey, he's stone cold. This guy. is cold bloodooded. I, you know, cuz he. laughs a lot. He's kind of a nerd. He's. got Moxy. He's got swagger. But whenever. push comes to shove, he is a killer. We. saw it in here. Yeah, we were up on him. You remember Foxy? Me and Foxy were up. on him in our shooting game. We got to. which we need you to come play, which I. fear you are going to be very good. Too. good on you. Yeah, I might have to.

change rules for you like we did for. Tyrese. Me and Foxy were up on him and. Connor though in the shooting game and. then all of a sudden it was just like. one little. flip of the switch happened. The only. way to win is he had to make every. single shot. The only way straight NBA. threes with us chirping at him and none. of them touched the rim and it was like, "Oh, this guy is one of those guys. This. is one of those guys and he's been able. to prove it. I'm happy for him. Still so. young. Tough series because they got a. lot of guys on the other side that can, you know, bop the wood. Oh yeah. As Q. You understand. Connor has a question.

for you. Yeah. Q Rich, I hope you know, too. His nickname isn't the moment. Okay. For Hallebert, we all know what. his nickname is. It has some negative. connotations, but the photoshops are too. good. Uh, and Twitter has already deemed. his name. Uh, which I think we all. respect. Uh looking at last night's game. though, uh Q Rich, um yeah, you got to. respect the player. Uh the bench for the. Thunder kind of were the uh stars. Wiggins and Caruso, they both have 20. plus. Are you kind of counting this game.

as the OKC bench game? Obviously SGA had. 34 points, but when you look at the. sports books, his overunder was actually. 34 and a half. So thanks a lot for all. those overbears like myself. But are you. looking at this as a bench game? Do you. think uh now the Pacers have enough on. the bench when you're looking at OKC and. they're getting, you know, 40 50 plus. points from their bench? I mean, this is. who they are, though, man. This is this. is why, you know, when they were playing. Minnesota, I was saying that their. bench, the the depth of their team, and.

this is this is this is why they had the. record they had, you know, in the best. record in the NBA. Wiggins has scored 43. points this season. He he's he's gotten. gotten off and went crazy. So, they this. isn't new. And this is a guy that got in. last night. He hadn't played in in a. couple games before from the last series. and in the beginning of this series and. he got out there and got to the money. He was out there hitting step back. threes and everything. Not just catch. and shoot. But this shows how deep they. are and how much of a team they are that. like you got guys sitting over there.

that's probably chopping at the bit to. get in the game, but they not they not. showing it. You know what I'm saying? In. a negative way. Once he got a chance to. get get out there and play, he balled. out. Teammates gave him the ball, supported him. It wasn't like, hey, he. not supposed to be doing this. just like. whoever is going crazy, they let go. crazy. And I think that's a a attribute. of a great team, you know, when they got. depth like that and they could bring a. guy in who hadn't played and he comes in. and looks like he he should be six man. or something and he plays that well. offensively and defensively. So, I think. this is just, you know, who OKC is as a.

team. They're very deep and they're very. talented. Carson needs to chill out. He. does. He needs to chill out. This guy. needs to relax. He is a dog. Hebo sent. me a stat. I didn't want to say it. because, you know, I I didn't want to I. just didn't want to do it. Although. Caruso is our guy, too. It's kind of a. tough thing to say. Um, Alex Caruso defended Tyresese. Hallebertton on 10 half court matchups. yesterday. Hi didn't score and that'll. three assist to turnover ratio. Hey. Caruso, [ __ ] relax. Seriously.

Okay, everybody needs everybody needs to. All right, let's move. Let's move along. here. Last question about the series. Go. ahead, Ty. Yeah. Thank you, Rich. So. far, who do you think the coaching. advantage would go to? Everyone's been. talking about Dano all year and then, you know, after game one, it was there. was a lot of like, hey, the mo the. moment may have gotten to this guy. He. wasn't ready for it, and he kind of, you. know, made several mistakes down the. stretch. Obviously, everyone's been. giving Carile their flowers thus far, but at this point, 1-1, who do you think. has the advantage so far for the through.

the first two games, and who do you like. in terms of X's and O's coaching for the. rest of the series? Uh my opinion, man, I think uh I think. Dagnot is a great coach. He's a young. coach. He's going, you know, he's. growing. He's trying to get his first. championship and become, you know, like. a great known as a great coach. But I. think the the coaching match up, that's. Rick Carlile, man. He he he's a he's a. Hall of Famer. He's a championship. coach. He's been one of the better. coaches for the for a long long time in. this league. But I mean, that's that's. no disrespect to Dagno. I think he would.

even know that that you know, they. Carile is is would be seen as the. superior coach between the two of them. in this series. But I mean that still. doesn't mean anything between, you know, Dagno, his team can still win the. championship and win the final. So, you. know, that's just the way it is. Carile. is the beast, man. He He's one of the. best to do it. I think when he's all. said and done, he's going to go down as. one of the best coaches ever, too. One. with the Mavs, then he helped build the. Pistons, right, and then he kicked him. out of town, then he gets one the next. year. Exactly. Yes. And then now he's. he's been with the Pacers. He's built.

the culture each year. You see him like. kind of building it in there. He's. perfect for us here. loves it cuz in 49. other states it's just basketball. You. heard him as soon as they won a Easter. conference finals. He loved being here. Yeah. Yeah. It was awesome. It was a. great promo. It was a great Indiana. promo. Like as he was saying it was like. I was like yes do that. This is exactly. what you should be doing in this exact. moment. Go ahead. Yeah. That Mavs. championship too. I I forget there was a. video uh going a little further back and. that that championship they won is. basically the greatest run um of any.

team ever. They played Hall of Fame. teams in every single round. and they. beat him on. Then it was the Heels. I'll. tell you what, Carl will run them. Carla. will have the boys running. Seems like. that might be a little bit of uh in. question with what the way Tyrese. Hallebertton walked in that press. conference, walked out of that press. conference. Don't like he might be. tired. He might be tired. Like Team USA. soccer. No, Team USA soccer isn't tired. They're ass. Okay, that's a little bit. different. Tyrese is not Tyr. He'll be. out. Okay, he he's got two days, man. That's just that's just the you know,

that's a hard fought game. That shows. like you say Caruso, all the different. guys all up on them fighting through. that all game. Like you walk out of that. sore after that after a game like that. Yeah. The torture chamber. Okay. Caruso. chamber. I get it. You know all these. things that Lou Gord is a unit. That. dude. Have y'all seen him in real life. like in person like to see him. You go. to the game watch when you see him in. person. This dude is a big dude man. I. saw him in Montreal when they played the. Pistons. I was like I was standing.

courtside me and Richard Hamilton. I. say, "Bro, look at this dude." He's so. fast too, Q. He's able to get in that. game. He moving. He moving too. I don't. want to say fast cuz I don't know how. fast he is. Quick. He just his ability. to get body in front and then work. through screen. It's like he is a. problem. Lou Dort is a problem. That is. that is something needs to get loose. sorted between before uh game three. I'm. sure coach Carlile will have it figured. out. Last question here for you. Q Rich. comes from DBudge. Yeah, we had a lot.

going on this weekend in Sports Cube, but something that caught my attention. one-on-one with two former NBA players, Lance Stevenson, Michael Beasy. Not only. gameplay, but Bezy was cutting some uh. interesting promos. What do you mean. interesting? Just very, very. interesting. But I want to know over. your 13-year career, any great, I guess, postpractice one-on-one stories, number. one, and then secondly, any dream. matchups of two active players right now. that you would like to see go at it. one-on-one? Uh, no real crazy stories from 101's.

when we play. I mean, it would happen, but nothing really crazy to tell. But, uh, I guess a a dream a dream matchup in. the in the league that I would like to. see of of of of guys would be uh, let me. SGA. I would. like SGA. Let me see SGA and Kyrie go at. it. Let me see. Let me see that match up. because that like listen people don't. understand how magical uh Kyrie is. This. man here I don't I listen I don't know. that there's anybody on the planet that.

could guard him oneonone if they play. the king of the hill. I don't know that. that I don't know if anybody could stop. him. I I I didn't create this, so I. don't want to act like I did, but. somebody has been on the record of. stating that if Kyrie was to be dropped. back in like way back, they would uh. burn him for being a witch for what he. can do with a bad like this guy's got to. be a wizard of some sort with what he's. able to accomplish. They were saying the. same thing about Beasley, though. People. were saying like Beasley one-on-one. problematic just like Koozie. Yeah, he.

can't you can't stop Bees. I played I. played my one year in Miami with Bees. That was Bee's second year and he was. the same then playing every day after. practice, whoever want to play. And like. he literally like I I truly think if the. he got drafted to the wrong team. He. couldn't he he wasn't for that. structure. He couldn't you know what I'm. saying? That kind of that that stunted. his growth because he needed to go. somewhere where he could just be him and. just not have like you know some of the. teams don't have the same structure. The. heat is straight up and down like 6:00.

not going to do certain stuff here and. it's if you do you going to lose you. know things are going to happen you. going to get fined you going you know. what I'm saying you going to be in a bad. bad spot but there are teams in the. league where the standards aren't that. high and he could have went in there and. he would have been averaging 25 and. getting busy and would have been a toast. at the. time telling you you ask some of the you. ask some people that play with him he'. went to a different situation where they. just gave him the ball and said go crazy. he'd have been averaging about 25 26. points we'll never know now hopefully. it's just more one-on- ones where he's.

cutting Interesting promos to say the. least. Straight up and down like 6:00 is. a great bar. I appreciate the hell out. of you, ladies and gentlemen. 13-year. NBA vet Quinton Richardson. from the NBA. Let's go to the NFL. Ladies and gentlemen, joining us now is. one of the most legendary humans in the. history of football. He's a national. champion. He's now a man who's in charge. with leading the Los Angeles Chargers. Ladies and gentlemen, everything that's. right with ball, coach Jim Harbaugh.

Coach, how you doing? Good to see you. Good to. see you, coach. High five. High five. High five. Yep. Bam. Got it over. Got it. over here. Yeah. Boom. Happy to see that still standing. Uh, obviously that was a gift from us. built by Tim McAfee that we delivered to. Coach Harbaugh when we took a visit to. their beautiful facility. Let's talk. about that. How is the facility otaas? How's it to have all the boys back in. there? What's it feel like this year's.

team versus last year's team? What's the. mindset of this time of year for you, coach? Yeah, it's it's it's all. training. It's all training right now. Uh, you know, super super excited uh um. for what what's been uh what's been done. to this point. I mean, I got to tell. you, man, just listen to that interview. with with Q there. I mean, I I've got no. insight for you. Uh I've got uh we're. we're in training mode. We're in trying. to get better today, be better today. than we were yesterday, be better. tomorrow than we were today. Um, that.

was a great interview. You guys are up. there demonstrating. You got uh you got. you got some real insight going there. Thank you. We try to be an additive to. society. Every once in a while, we are. certainly a drawback. Uh, whenever you. decide to stop being the constant. football guy, you on TV every day would. be a gift from the gods. But since we do. have a conversation with you here, is. every year starting back at the bottom. of the hill? Like is that how you do it? Is that so like first team meeting it's. like reestablishing culture, reestablishing expectations. Does that.

all happen again during these offseason. times? Oh yeah. That and and that's. that's driven by the uh it's driven by. the players. I mean, if I looked at our. our our top top guys who train, I mean, the the the the elite, you know, eight. guys on our team, that would be that. would be uh Justin Herbert, Derwin. James, Khil Mack, u uh Tulie, uh Zion. Johnson, uh um be Lad, it would be Joe.

Alt, uh Rashan Slater. I mean that that. that's no disrespect to to the other. guys that are training at a great and. high level, but I mean those guys are. elite. Um and and they train here's how. how Derwin does it, how how Khil does. it, how Justin Herbert, they do it. They. train in the off season like they've. accomplished nothing. Uh therefore when. they get to the season, they can be that. guy. Um and that's that's how that's how.

it's led. That's uh and then the rest of. us, we just I mean, we're we're feeling. guilty if these great players can train. the way they do and give it the the uh. the kind of effort they give it in the. off season when nobody's looking. Uh you. you feel guilty if you don't do the. exact same thing same thing or or. attempt to do it at that level. When. your best players have your best work, I. think that's when you have your best. teams. It feels like you guys have that. over there. Let's talk about the young. guys that have come into your building, the rookies. What are you looking for.

whenever they get into the building? Is. the the judgment period or evaluation. period over? Now you're trying to build. them up or how do how do you kind of. view the rookies in their first off. season? Uh well, looking for humble and hungry. Uh you know, guys that want to make us. better and and it's been a it's been a. really good off seasonason for that, including the draft. Uh but then you get. then you get to see them, you get to you. get to work with them, you get to be in. the meetings with them. uh you get to. you get to see them train.

and yeah Lad doesn't like this, Joe. doesn't like this. Um well all I'm. saying I mean nobody's it's going to be. tough to be for anybody to be better. than Joe Alt um or Lad Macaki but as a. group as a total uh you know all like 30. 30 rookies. I mean uh these guys have. really been about their business and. I've got to say uh you know just just. really pleased with the way they're. handling their business and and the way. they're uh attacking each each and every. day. If you're coming into a coach Herb. and a coach Jim Harbaugh building, I.

think everybody kind of understands what. is expected every single day. You. mentioned Joe Al there and Lad McConi. saying these guys aren't going to like. this, but they are unbelievable. You. know what else Joe Al is? We saw day one. of him getting to your facility. Huge. Tone has a question for you, coach. Yeah, coach. Joe is huge. You bring in. Mai Beckton, he's huge. You bring in. Naji Harris, he's big. Omar Hampton's. big. You have big wide receivers. You. bring in Bud Dupri and Cle Mack, those. guys are huge. Setting the edge. You. talk Derwin's a big safety. Is that all. on purpose? Like it when you guys are.

bringing people in and you look at your. team, is it on purpose to potentially. have the biggest team in the NFL? We started visioning what the right side. of the line would look like, you know, if we uh had Joe Alt there and added Mai. Beckton. And uh I mean it looks great. Uh I'm gonna give a little secret away. here. I think we're gonna be a. right-handed team. I think we will. Mai Beckton with what quite a rebirth of. his career moving in to guard. How has.

that been alongside Joe Alt? And. whenever you say what you're imagining. with the team, whenever you guys are. talking about this uh Hortu and Hot. Ortiz are talking about what the team. could be, then when you see him on the. field, is it like, oh yeah, this is. exactly what we were dreaming about. whenever it comes to the Los Angeles. Chargers in 2026, 2025. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Definitely. Uh definitely that uh. you know that that vision is is is. looking good. I mean it look it it it it. looks good right now. Um and just trying. to add to it every day. I think I mean.

Greg Roman uh you know there's a lot of. a lot of a lot of people that want to. talk finesse. They want to talk uh they. want to talk um you know out out trick. them. Uh that kind of thing. Uh been. around Greg Roman a long time. Been. around Ben Herbert a long time. uh you. know that's strong strong winds and Greg. talks about it like yeah we we want to. be we want to have tendencies you know. we want to be predictable uh and then we.

use that those tendencies and and that. predictability to our advantage but uh. you know just just the you know the the. things about football that I know that. you appreciate uh you know that's that's. what we're striving for here and we're. going to have to I mean we got to be. better. I think we will be better. Uh. but we're gonna have to be better. because uh I mean the the NFL is dog eat. dog and uh and and no more competitive. than it is in our division in the in the. AFC West. I loved hearing you say, you. know, a lot of people say you got to.

finesse them and in the back of your. mind we ain't what we football is. This. what football is. I tell a great story. Uh my dad played at Bowling Green and um. played for Dwight Perry, legendary. coach. Uh, and he said it this way one. time. My dad said they were they were uh. he he was also coaching for for Dout at. Bowling Green and they were having a. discussion and uh they had a they had a. coach that came in. He said uh you know.

this is this is how you do football now. We're talking like 19 late 1960s early. 1970s. Uh he go uh you know it's more of. a finesse game now. And Dy Perry said, "There's Yeah, I'll I'll show you how to. finesse somebody." And that's to knock. another man on his rear end. That's how. that's the only finesse that I. understand when it comes to football. So. said a little more colorful. My dad get. my dad on the show. He'll tell that. story a little bit better. But uh you. know, I think you get the point there. I. mean that that's that that's strong.

strong wins in football. Yes, it does. Always has, always will. And I do think. it does get forgotten. I and I did not. know in the 1960s they were pushing a. narrative of not being a physical. football team. Now we know it's just. kind of all the time. It feels like it's. all the time it's going to be like that. Let's go back. You talk about the AFC. West and then you mentioned uh Coach. Roman. Let's go. Connor has a question. for you, coach. Yeah, coach. Going back. to your San Francisco days. Uh you and. Pete Carol and the Seattle Seahawks had. a pretty good rivalry and now you know.

he's kind of following you around a. little bit it feels like. Uh joining the. Raiders. How does that feel kind of. being that familiar with a guy? Kind of. knowing how the Raiders are going to be. set up because of your familiarity with. Pete Carol and have you texted him like, "Hey, we don't have to be in the same. division. You can coach for a different. team." Well, we are and we're playing. them game two. Uh and we just what do we. know about them? We know they're going. to be good. And you know, we Chiefs week. one, Raiders week two, uh Broncos week.

three. So, uh, you know, we're going to. find out where we stand in that. competitive division, uh, you know, right off right off the bat. So, uh, you. know, it's coming. We know it's coming. So, uh, so get ready for it. I mean, let's prepare. Let's make today, uh, let's make it a great day. Let's see if. we can be better today than we were. yesterday and be better tomorrow than we. are today. So many Hall of Famers over. there. It's insane. Cannot wait to watch. you guys do battle. Shout out to the NFL. schedule makers. First three weeks, you.

got them all. You know, it's all you can. eat buffet over there for the AFC West. It's good for us. Obviously, a lot of. very meaningful games early for all. parties over there. Debut has a question. for you. Yeah, coach. I just want to ask. you about some uh early impressions on. some of the new guys. Tone already. mentioned Nas Harris, but Marion. Hampton, you got up there at the top of. the draft. And then Trey Lance been a. backup quarterback. We had big Mike. McCarthy and we asked him, he was very. impressed with him in Dallas last year. What's your thoughts on those guys early. on? Yeah. Um well Amaran Hampton I mean.

we talk about uh what we're looking for. out of the young guys. I mean people are. going to help us. Um and are humble and. hungry. Uh Amaran's that you know what I. like about him the best is is he he's. just he's he's really put together. He. is trained and uh you know he just looks. NFL ready. Uh love how he hits a hole. I. know we're just in in uh in shorts and. no pads yet, but uh you know I I know. that uh that that personality because. I've seen it on tape uh you know from.

him. Uh so many other guys. Uh Trey. Harris, I mean we we added a lot of uh. firepower to the offense. Uh been really. impressed with Aronda Gatson. Kyle. Canard who was the SEC defensive player. of the year. U Jamar Cwell. I mean I. think he's I mean he's training. He's. making Ben Herbert his best friend. That. was like day one. Hey, Jamari, your best. friend should be Ben Herbert. Uh, you. know, he's going about it that way. So, um, uh, you mentioned, uh, Trey Lance, I.

mean, uh, and Mike McCarthy, uh, you. know, he got that message. Mike McCarthy. actually got that message to us, uh, that, uh, to me and appreciate him for. that. Uh really excited about Trey and. uh yeah, we're just uh we're just. training a roller right now. Pat, before. we let you go, we can't thank you enough. for taking time here in the middle of. the off season. Um as somebody that I. know or I assume you care about. immensely, um Mr. Ers passed away last.

week. Any thoughts when you got that. message? What was your first feelings? And uh what was it like with your time. here at the Colts? Obviously, you're. beloved here still. Uh just it uh when. when Jimmy passed away, it just uh took. my breath away. It really did. And then. uh you know, you just go back and and. then all the the the thoughts and. memories you just start, you know, kind. of flowing through your mind. Uh I mean, it's just a great great great guy. I. mean, uh guys, uh I mean, he would get.

in the weight room. I mean, he would get. under the bar. I mean, he would uh he. would deadlift. He would bench. uh you. know he was uh and and then there's this. other just a great vibe about him uh you. know he can play the guitar he's a. people person uh you know one of the one. of the one of the real greats uh but the. thing you loved about him as a player. and I I played and he was he was the he. was the owner. um man he would get right there in the.

wait room with you and the chalk would. be flying and the and the and the uh the. iron clanking And uh we're like this is. my kind of guy right here. You know, he's one of us. Uh I mean nothing but. love for Jim Ers and the entire Urs. family. Hell yeah. And I know they send. the same thing back to you, coach. You're the best. Enjoy it all. Tell. everybody we said hello over there. Thank you. Appreciate it. Ladies and. gentlemen, Coach Jim Hornball. He's in a Ring of Honor here. Oh yeah. Jim Harbaugh's in a ring of honor here. in Indianapolis. So obviously he's very.

much appreciated. You know who's not. much appreciated? Who? Chef Chang. Not. at all. I didn't know those guys existed before. this morning. What about Indianapolis. sandwiches? There's some good sandwiches. around here, too. Boston? You kidding. me? I heard the list was rigged. Yeah, there's some people saying it was a. little biased voting maybe by Chef. Chang. We have not done our research, so. we will not get into that yet. No. Okay. They're saying maybe though. Nope. Not. getting into it. Indianapolis. sandwiches. Oh, dude. Come on. You ever.

had pork tenderloin? Yeah. Subway. Jersey. Watch it. There's a bunch of. Subways around here. Pretty good. Jersey. bikes also here. Yes, there's a lot of. chains here. But have you ever had a. pork tenderloin from. Dire Deli? Everywhere. Chicken parm. sandwich from Ba Bevo. That is very. good. And you can get that here. Change. your life. What's that deli? The big. one. Steak and shake. Cat. No, I'm. forgetting. Oh, thanks Foxy. Shapiro.

But you got Shapiro. You get a great. deli meat sandwich. Oh, that's an indie. like that's an indie thing. Yeah. Yes. It's not Ben's Tony. What you're. thinking of? I don't know. We'll be back. on the other side. We will still hate. Chef Changen, but we got a lot of stuff. coming for you. I think be a friend. Tell friends something nice might change. your life. We have an opportunity to give away. $75,000 to a kid named Daniel Vor. Absolutely. You're a sophomore, correct? Yeah. What is your major? Civil.

engineering. Okay. Okay. So, what's that. mean? What is civil engineering? Uh, I don't really know. Have you ever. kicked a ball before? I have. I have. Wayne, were you a soccer player? Soccer. player? Yeah. Okay. How were you at. kicking soccer balls? Pretty good. I was. okay. I was good. Have you ever said. anything negative about football. kickers? Maybe once or twice. Daniel. Damn, Daniel. We don't need that. You. make a field goal here from 33 yds. uphill. You're the civil engineer. You'd. have to tell me. I think it's about a 40. yard kick. If you're able to do that, we.

will give you $75,000. All right. He's got no laces. Yeah. What. do we got going here? Can we get Can we. get a shot of shoes? What time shot of. the shoes? Daniel showed up in his vans. with no races. What time did you get. here for this? About 11:40 last night. Need a lot of power. Good luck, Daniel. I'm not feeling it. Not feeling it. Wait a second.

Just like everything this morning. That. was a surprise. We did not expect that. Let's go. We got to do one more. One. more. kick for $100,000. You got this, dude. Let's go. How about. this, Daniel? How about this, Daniel? Not only is this one for. $100,000, if you make it, we'll add. another $100,000 to the $500,000.

donation we're about to make from. college game day to the hurricane. relief. It could be 600,000 if you make. this with a h 100,000 going into your. pocket. Daniel, this is bigger than you. Let's make a kick. Way to overcome the. shoes here. That was a heck of an. effort. Come on. You got this. In. Berkeley, California. You got it. [Applause].

Hell yeah. Great job. Damn, Daniel. Damn, Daniel. Just talking. Are you kidding me? [Applause].

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it's not just me obviously the toxic. tables here at Boston Coner and at. Tashmid I see that eagle howling on your. chest brother man yeah yeah I got the. eagle Oh, I also, you know, it's a it's. a Navy uh little tarp here. Figured, you. know, I I thought we'd talk a little, you know, Marine Corps, maybe Navy, maybe just kind of go over the branches. Just kind of dive into that type of. stuff today, too, cuz I saw on your desk. there's a little talk about a campaign. cap here. Yeah, that's what Yeah, that's. right. Yeah, a campaign cap here. Well, this is from the Charlie Company down.

there at Paris Island. Uh obviously. incredibly honored to have received. this, but also get a chance to hang out. with them for about 36 hours. Uh. Thursday night all the way through. Saturday afternoon or Saturday midm. morning. Felt like afternoon. They wake. up early over there. Sure. Yeah. Yeah. They do the uh military time, you know. And I'll tell you what, I had seen 0300. in a long time. Yeah. Sure. Okay. I I I. had seen Wow, it's 3:00 a.m. already on. the other side. I hadn't seen 0300.

We're starting the entire day. Uh, but I. had an opportunity to hang out with uh. maybe the baddest [ __ ] on. earth, the marine drill instructors, especially down there at Paris Island. Once again, not take a shot at anybody. out of San Diego. But if if if I was to. echo the sentiment from a lot of people. that were down there, I think we do. potentially take a little bit shot over. there cuz Hollywood is close to that. particular world. Uh, it was an honor to. learn everything I possibly could about. the life of a drill instructor, the job. of a drill instructor, and the culture.

of the Marines. There's the yellow. footprints that basically every single. Marine recruit starts on, and then you. go through the silver ha uh hatch, which. is exactly where I was standing in front. of that door, and then you go through. there. I did not. I went around. Sure, they were they did have me go through. what a recruit's life is like from the. yellow foot, from the car, from the bus. is what they arrive on. I was in a. minivan, very comfortable minivan, had. air conditioning on. I don't think. everybody else has that. And they let me. know that that that was certainly the. case. You go through the yellow.

footprints, then through the silver. hatch, then you go into the silver. chairs on the inside, and then that is. where you're basically uh 18, 19 years. old. You signed up to join the Marines. And uh here we go. Boot camp has begun. There's a phone bank right over there if. uh behind the drill instructor's back on. the far side where you get your phone. call that you have arrived at boot camp. And uh there is a script for you to read. and you basically say this is recruit. and then it says name here. I have. safely arrived at Paris Island. And.

while you're saying all those things, there are three drill instructors saying. hurry up. Hurry up. Shut up. And then. you hang up and you're right back in. there. Yeah. And then it is the uh the. building of a marine. You know, everywhere you look around Paris Island, it says we make Marines. We make. Marines. We make Marines. And they take. a lot of pride in that. And there has. not been a lot of change over the. decades and generations of those who. have had to come through Paris Island or. got to come through Paris Island to.

become a Marine and go on and serve our. country. First to fight are who the. Marines are. So those who are coming. through here are being taught in. learning how to become a warrior. I mean. and that I got a chance to watch there's. 11 different boot camps happening, 11. different companies going through it. I. got a chance to watch from the first day. of pickup for a group a 60 I believe in. the company and then I got a chance to. see like day 11. Then I got a chance to. watch them do their crucible which is. like their final exam. It's the final 54. hours and then I got to see an EGA.

ceremony which is an Eagle Globe anchor. ceremony where the recruit gets their. pin for the first time and they are. considered Marines. It's also the first. time that the drone instructors in them. have a relationship of peers in humans. as opposed to DI. in recruit that needs to figure out that. this ain't a game. And it was a uh it. was enlightening. It was eye opening. It. was an honor. And uh it was something. that made me realize quickly that I had.

a little bit of worry, you know, about. the way the world was. Thought maybe it. would be too soft. Like if something was. to really pop off, do we still have it? because I feel like other countries are. still going through some stuff. And I. feel like if they had to, they'd have. the toughness, the mental toughness, the. physical toughness to have to do what. you have to do whenever push comes to. shove. We're watching it happen in a. couple different places now where we. couldn't have expected things to happen. and all of a sudden we got like invasion. happening, war happening, and boots on. ground happening. And I wondered about. the United States of America. Have we. gotten too soft? Do we even have enough.

to supply? We're going to be just fine. It's good. I want to let you know that. Yeah. We're going to be uh just And the. reason why I know that is because we. have Marines and they do not. And if you. get through a Marine boot camp 13 weeks, if you get through a Marine boot camp, you you're going to have to be mentally. tough. I mean, you are going to have to. be physically tough. You're going to. have to be mentally tough and you're. going to have to be ready to go. And cuz. that is basically what they're creating. down there. A lot of people that end up. at the Marines, a lot of the people that. we saw, now granted, there's legacy, you. know, dad was a Marine, family was was.

Marine, there's people that want to. serve their country and be something. great. Then there's a lot of people that. don't have a lot of other opportunities. Homeless people, homeless recruits. I. got a chance to meet guys who uh just. basically said, "I had nothing else. going on in my life and wanted to find. something. So, I signed up for the. Marines and then they get here and now. their lives have changed forever." And. the emotions that happen from day one a. pickup all the way through the EGA. ceremony when you become a Marine. For. some of them, it was the first time. they've ever accomplished or finished. something in their entire life, in their. entire being they've done something. So,

it was super emotional. It was uh it was. awesome to be down there. Shout out to. First Sergeant Pete Ramos. Break chains, dog. Passion. Got you. Shout out to. Bobby Yro, sir. Appreciate you. First. sergeant Patrick Gartland. Steve Price. I appreciate the hell out of you. And uh. EMTT Berg was down there doing his thing. with a camera. Oh, we lost him a couple. times. What do you mean? He. was He's got courage. Okay. He.

was in there. He's a filmer. There's a. couple different times we're like, uh, we lost him and then we'd be walking. around. There's one guy with a white. shirt on and he'd be in the middle of. a and he's like in there. It's like we. had to get him back. It was They were so. nice, so cool, and uh so thankful. There's going to be recruits though in. my I think um that were going through. their crucible, which is the end of an. 11week boot camp. It's like a 54-hour. straight uh you know, series of events. that leads to your graduation. It's the.

hardest by far. It's like everything. you've done but limited sleep like two. hours of sleep maybe over this 54 hours. Drill instructors sleep like three hours. a night for 11 weeks. That's the drill. instructors. They think the recruits. need to get a lot harder. This is the. easiest going to be through that. crucible period. They're sleeping like. four hours maybe and they're dead tired, exhausted. It's the end of boot camp and. they're doing a lot of [ __ ] you know, like walking through uh different trails. and woods and hiking and water and. swampy land and dragging their face. through stuff. And then I was just.

standing there, you know, and I'm in a. tank top, got a hat on. They got these. sand fleas that are just I mean, they. are aggressive. They are the marines of. bugs. They are resilient. They are tough. and they will get you. But there was a. couple kids that I made eye contact with. and he could see them like they could. barely keep their eyes open and they're. like and then they would just walk and. they're going to tell the story someday. [ __ ] magazine. I think [ __ ] Pat. McAfee. I might have been hallucinating.

There was a guy in a tank top sitting. there. I mean, it was uh it was awesome, man. And uh thank you to all those who. serve, who have served, and those who. will sign up in the future. I you know, obviously all branches of military are. incredibly appreciated by us here uh at. our entire program. Debut's dad was. obviously a member of the army, I do. believe. Uh but for what the Marines did. to me, Ser brother. Okay. Yeah. And I. ain't never going to be no watti. And uh. everybody understands what I mean that.

uh what I said there that are drill. instructors. Yeah. Me neither. You look like you'd never be a DI. brother. I I'm just saying I'm not going. to be I don't want to give it all the. way all the [ __ ] I don't know how much. I'm supposed to say. How much I'm not. supposed to say. Watt is my favorite. term though. Me too. Weak ass drill. instructor. There you go. Okay. So you. ask for like a energy drink. Oh, you. looking for a little wy over there? You. yawn. Did I just see a Wii? Like so much. of uh Damn, we can't yawn. Can't no. [ __ ] way can you yawn? No way. What.

are we talking about? It's involuntary. Also, watch where you put your hands. Watch where you put your hands, dude. Watch where you put your hands. Break. chains. Break chains. Break. chains. Break chains. Okay. Yeah, I was. very pumped to be there. It was cool. I. I I'll tell you what, I am not built for. it though. those drill instructors. just four four 0400 lights are. on lights flip on but there's already. been a lot that's been happening we're.

in there and it is. well good morning show time it is about. to go from 4:00 a.m. to 8:00 p.m. It is. just 13 weeks. How do those voices? They. don't they they they don't how do they. last? I I heard a bat out of one. So, while I was getting in the middle of. learning what the life of a recruit is, okay, drill instructor. I didn't know. his name. I did not get a chance to meet. him. He's in the middle of either boot. camps or going back to tour. So, drill.

instructors have to serve in the Marines. first. Then they either sign up to be a. drone instructor. they have to go back. to DI school which is like a boot camp. to become a drill instructor or they go. and serve and then they're asked if they. would like to go back and be a drill. instructor and help out or whatever and. a lot of them do. You got to be cut out. for it though. You know, obviously not. everybody's a drill instructor. It is a. what two and a half three hours of. sleep. You're creating the culture. You. are making Marines in this entire thing. The guy that was the lead senior drill. instructor for when I was coming through. the footprints. I mean.

just when I say. ears, you say open sir. Do you. understand? I sir. Yeah. I sir. I sir. Ears. And I was like, is that ears? You. know, you didn't. That sounded. different. You know, so I said, I sir, he goes, when I say ears, you say open, sir. Do you understand? I, sir. is and. I'm like, I still think you're saying. those words differently, you know? Still.

think you're saying it differently. So, I didn't say that obviously. I was just. sitting there letting my brain. calculate. Is he saying ears right there. or is he saying cuz when he said when I. say eyes, you say snap, sir, and you. snap your head at me. Eyes. Snap, sir. Faster. Eyes. Snap, sir. Yes. Okay. Is What did you say there? So, my bro, I. was rattled, bro. I was r couldn't even. I'm standing there. I I. I open. [ __ ] This guy was fed up with me. He.

was done with Simon says player. So. good. I bet you the Marines very good at. Simon says probably best tier one. Tier. I would say elite elite Simon says. players. Yeah, it was What was Did they. tell you what the boot camp was like for. these drill instructors? Like when they. get back from tour? Yeah, I was there. I. actually went through it. So they got to. go through all the same see. So it's the. same exact stuff basically because they. got to be reminded of all all the. exercises. There's like a confidence. course which has all these different. exercises. There's like a roll thing and.

then there's a hand to hand combat stuff. and they're yelling go through all that. Yeah. Yeah. Go through all that stuff. Then they got a DI school where they sit. down have to learn all this like it is. you're right back into almost a boot. camp. Now granted there is more of a. peer feeling as opposed to how the. recruits are viewed. Okay. the recruit. recruits uh you have not earned the. respect to be called a marine and it. will certainly feel like that but a lot. of the DIs well not a lot I guess some. of the DIs end up having to serve with. the people that were in their boot camps. so like that is how they view it like.

hey you're going to be at war with. definitely other Marines maybe even me. so through these next 11 weeks I am. going to make you as hardened and as. smart and as lack of reactionary or. scared that you could possibly be but I. couldn't imagine that at 18 years old. I. could not imagine walking in there at. 18. I would They call it the yellow. footprints, you know, yellow snow. Yeah. Mhm. Did you have a moment there like. obviously you took a different path like. what if this was the path I took? So, there was a couple times where I was.

like kind of mixed like cuz I'm talking. to the people. I'm like, man, I have so. much respect for all these people I'm. talking to and the conversation is. exactly how like I like to enjoy. conversation things. We're talking about. the way we go about talking about the. [ __ ] that's being talked. There's a lot. of [ __ ] being talked, a lot of sports. similarities. I'm like, "Oh, this would. be a cool team to be a part of, you. know, and you walk outside and I watch. these guys going through Fallujah and a. crucible when they are dragging their. faces through a field of m field of mud. because if they lift their face at all, they're seeing all right. So, you can't. be seen. Have to be under there 300.

yards is dragging their faces just under. barb wire through stuff." And I'm like. 18-year-old Pat would I would have never. I would have. And then you can't though. Yeah. It's too late. You can't. Mhm. You. can't. Oh, you want to quit? Oh, you're. broken. We got a broken recruit. Okay. So, what's that mean? Well, somebody. else is going to have to drag me now. through this. So, I just made somebody. else's life miserable. I could see how. like if I had a kid that was a little. bit, you. know, got to be a dog, but a little bit. out like the Marines will make you an.

adult. They will make you a adult. Like. it I think back in the day, I don't. think it happens much anymore, where. they say you either go to like Juvia or. jail or you go to like boot camp or. something like that. I could see how. that would be an answer. Like I I could. see how that would be a hey, we're going. to teach you how to be disciplined. We're going to teach you about. accountability. We're going to teach you. about uh striving for perfection because. that is basically what a DI is trying to. do. They're trying to make every recruit. be perfect at everything that they do. And also, we need you not asking any.

questions. like we tell you to do it, you need to because they're first to. fight. So, hey, there is a wall right. there. We need you to actually run. through that wall. That's what they're. trying to create with the Marines. And. it's like they do it. They absolutely do. it. And then you finish with a 15k hike. that starts at 2 a.m. at the end of that. crisp. They're on like two hours of. sleep. And you're just watching them. walk through the the streets to finish. it and it's like just dragging. I mean, everything massive rainstorm. So, they're just drenched for three or four. hours, chafing everywhere. Glad they're.

on our side. Bingo. That That's all I. kept saying the entire time. I'm so. happy this exists. That's all I kept. saying. Hey, what's your big takeaway? I'm just thankful that this exists cuz I. didn't think it was possible anymore. And they've they've talked about how. people have tried to change them over. the years and they certainly had to get. different. They've had to do things a. little bit different, but like they. fight against like no, we need this. This needs to stay. And they've won. So, shout out to Marines. Ura Raw. You get. it. Uh, and shout out to the Charlie. Company. Passion, dude. Sorry about it,

Alpha. Graduated this weekend. And shout. out to First Sergeant Pete Ramos, First. Sergeant Pat Gartland, Bobby Yarro, sir, Steve Price, and Emtt Burke, and. everybody else that I met there. Everybody was so cool. A lot of fans of. the show. Nice. A lot of fans of the. show. Dope. A lot of fans of game day, too. A lot of southern boys. Good to. know EMTT's Get Lost, too. You know, EMTT. EMTT Berg. A little bit different. than Mitt. We did talk about Mitt there, though. Yeah. I actually thought about Mitt a couple. times through that entire thing. Boot. camp. Yeah. Mhm. I think this is Bobby.

Arbor. I'd like to let um Chief Warren. Officer Bobby Arbor uh formerly enlisted. now officer. He said, "Hey, if you need. somebody down here, we got we got a. couple different options. Three-day, one. week, two week. We can really straighten. some things out." You threatened Ebone. this morning, actually. Yes, I did. Like, we should all do it. I'll tell you. what, I sir. Uh yeah, I think you. should, too. I think you should. I think you should. Um, ladies and gentlemen, live from an. attic in Ohio. Tone, just as a guy who. knows you at this stage of your life,

you don't want no pieces of Paris. Island, brother. They got a I'm not. going to give away too much. They got. some great [ __ ] on that. island. Brigs and Bruce, that's a bar. Mhm. Got a sand volleyball pit outside. Oh, hell. I want to ask him, is there a. piano in there, too? I You know, the whole thing. Everybody. was too kind to me. Too kind. I. appreciate everybody. All right. live. from Manatak in Ohio. Ladies and. gentlemen, a man who would have been a I. think that's probably his other all I.

think that's probably what it would have. been. Mhm. If he wasn't a college. football national champion, Super Bowl. champion, Rder Cup winner, the all-time. leading tackler for the Green Bay. Packers. Ladies and gentlemen, AJ Hawk. Hawk saw a lot of your faces down there, buddy. A lot of your faces down there at. Paris Island. Those dudes are way. tougher than anyone I can't Yeah. I'm. very thankful that humans like that do. exist. My father-in-law was a Marine, so. yeah, I I know a little bit about it. And yeah, huge respect. I couldn't do. any of it. Legitimately very thankful. they exist. That was my takeaway. Uh.

that's still my takeaway. And I'm very. appreciative of how nice they were to. me. They're probably for probably forced. to be as nice as they were. And uh I. appreciate them allowing us to watch. them do their thing, answer all my. questions and uh going forward, obviously I've had respect for the. military, getting a chance to experience. it hands-on and see what happens. It's. like much much respect. You know, like. Jim Harbaugh say, much respect. Now, let's talk a little football here before. we get to our first guest of the hour.

Aaron Rogers officially with the. Pittsburgh Steelers. How long did you. know when you talked to him at the. Kentucky Derby about his football. future? Was it the Pittsburgh Steelers. and nobody else? How close do you think. he was to actual retirement? Just kind. of what is your thoughts on him. officially joining the Pittsburgh. Steelers? AJ? Yeah, I mean this is what. uh this is kind of what Ian predicted. I. guess he gets in gets there in time for. for mini camp and get the playbook when. they send him home for the little summer. break that they have. Uh I mean I had no. insight on this. I didn't know when he. was going to sign, if he was going to. sign, but I did say like he looked like.

he was in good shape. He was eating. healthy. Definitely was working out. He. he didn't look like a guy that was on. the road to retirement. That's for sure. Yeah. and him joining the Pittsburgh. Steelers has Pittsburgh Steelers fans. singing a little different tune. I I. think they were doing a big not let's. not get our hopes up. Let's not get our. hopes up. We don't like it. We don't. like it. Then it officially happens and. boom, all the Steelers fans are all in. Maybe we go win something. Maybe we do. something special here cuz the style of. football that Aaron Rogers is okay with. playing is handing the ball off, not. turning it over, being a smart offensive.

football team. And it feels like with. Tomlin and that defense, Arthur Smith. and he are going to be able to do some. magic. Now, Tone, you just brought up a. good point. Aaron's already out and. about in the community. Is that. accurate? Yeah, he's already at a uh. charity golf outing that Cam Hayward is. hosting. Him and DK are there. So, yeah, Aaron's already best friends with the. entire team. He's already a leader of. the team. And I mean, it's just the. first step to a great season. Well, didn't Cam Hayward say you should get. off the P? He did. That was taken that. was taken out of context. Cam, like the. rest of us, he uh also, you know, was,

you know, he didn't want to get hurt. So. you say things like that until Aaron. actually comes and then you know we are. big or at least I am a big you know. under underpromise overd deliver guy. So. you know that's kind of how it was. taking hold. Well shout out to Aaron. getting out there. Shout out to Cam. Hayward being an incredible leader not. only for the city but for the Pittsburgh. Steelers and Mark Kaboli obviously on. the scene and that's why Mark Kaboli. boots on the ground is good for the. program. And shout out to Schwickley. Heights uh golf club. Very nice. SHGC.

You get a good two and a half months of. golfing in there, but their greens are. pristine. I think Aaron doesn't even. know that uh he's about to have a tough. day on that golf course out. Yeah, it's. a tough golf course. Normally, they'd be. at Oakmont, but it's booked this week, so uh they they move as quickly instead. That would be the US Open. We'll talk. more about that as the week rolls on. Joining us is a man who has all the. information about a massive ruling that. has taken place. House verse the NCAA. House being a kid's last name, not the. House of Representatives. Basically, this case was going to be the one that.

was going to bring about a salary cap. for D1 sports. Judge Claudia Wilin has. approved the landmark House versus NCAA. settlement, which will usher in revenue. sharing and roster limits to college. sports. Roster limits obviously a big. deal because it's doing away with. walk-ons. College sports and revenue. sharing big deal because schools will be. paying players for the first time. to. tell us more about that. Ladies and. gentlemen, the man who has the authority. on all college sports, friend of the. program, Pete Damol. Hey, Peter. How you.

doing, Pete? Never been better, Pat. How. about you guys? You say that every time. we talk to you, and I think it's that. type of mindset that makes me love every. time we get a chance to catch up with. you. Let's talk about it. This House. versus the NCAA court thing was supposed. to happen in April. That was just a. setup of a hearing. Now we have an. actual ruling. What does this mean? How. quick does this get instituted? And uh. is everything fixed now, Pete Dam, which. is great news.

I wish everything was fixed, Pat, because it make my job a little more. linear. Uh I think the best way to look. at the House settlement. It it's that. it's a completely new pathway for. college sports to go on. There are still. a lot of questions and there are. certainly still some skepticism on how. everything is going to work, but it's a. complete reset and reboot of the system. The headline is officially formally. schools will be able to directly share. revenue with players for the first time. ever. Long obviously overdue, long. anticipated. Friday night 9:10 Eastern.

Judge Wilin set that into motion. So it. is a completely new era which is. exciting because the old era was a mess. Um but there's also going to be a ton of. questions pushing forward and there will. be uh there will be some hiccups there. It will not go smoothly. I think that's. the safest thing to say. Probably the. most important takeaway of the last 72. hours, Pat, is that an enforcement. entity called the College Sports. Commission was formed and about 3 hours. after Judge Wilin signed this document,

a highle MLB executive named Brian Cely. was put in charge of that commission. NCA enforcement, I think everybody can. agree upon, was uh a very feudal and. inept organization that was poorly armed. and poorly executed all these NCA. investigations the last 20 years. This. new college sports commission is going. to come in and attempt to set and then. enforce rules, which has obviously been. one of your favorite words, Pat, a. vexing issue for college sports. So, how. that all comes together and how quickly.

it can come together are that, you know, the issues we'll be pushing towards. until the season starts. So many. follow-ups, we'll get into them all. The. first main one there is the sports. commission that you're talking about. that has been put together. If people. were to list groups that suck at their. jobs, I think the NCAA would be in last. in professional sports and then the MLB. would be right above it, wouldn't it? I. think literally every other league would. be above. Even the NLLL, the PLLO, you. put Rabel in there above the MLB with. how they go about handling their.

business as a whole. So, when I see a. guy from the MLB is heading it up, my. immediate thoughts are, "Oh, great. That's great. Let's get the guy from the. league that doesn't do good uh to head. up this brand new thing, but everybody. says this is the right guy for the job. I think is that because he wants the job. and what type of experience does he have. that makes us think, okay, he'll be good. for the job? I certainly am happy that. somebody's signing up for this role. I. am happy that he has experience in. professional sports, but the MLB is.

nowhere near a place where anybody looks. at and says, "Yeah, that's the model on. how we should do things." So just just. kind of why Brian Cely and do you think. he's going to be good? Why Brian Cely is is a good question, Pat. And I and I think that his. experience as an assistant US attorney. in Washington DC. So he has significant. litigating experience and he can combine. that obviously with years of running. MLB's investigations. And so he is he is.

has had his hand in two pots that are. going to be applicable here. Um, I. believe he is Princeton undergrad, Harvard Law, obviously extremely. intelligent guy. Um, he was had a very. much behind the-scenes role at at MLB. So, it'll be interesting because what. his job is going to be in a lot of ways. is he's going to be the the sheriff of. this whole thing, for lack of a more uh. articulate way to put it. And he is. going to be in the crosshairs. Everyone. right now, we had uh five commissioners. on a conference call this morning is.

kind of linking hands and singing. kumbaya and say we all need to make this. work. And it's only going to work if. rules are enforced. If you say one thing. about the NFL, like you tamper and. you're the Dolphins, there's punitive. measures. And ultimately, he's going to. have to be an unpopular figure in. college sports because he's going to. have to set rule help set rules, put. them in place, and enforce them with. punitive measures. And those are going. to be in in regards to NIL deals that. are outside of revenue share. And that's. where the the new tension point in the. industry lies. Everybody can give away.

their 20.5 million how they want. I. would guess 14 to 16 million of that go. to football. Uh but it's how these. outside NIL deals are gauged, how they. are handled and and ultimately approved. or not approved is where the tension. point in the industry shifts. Okay. So, on that note, um Tone is going to have a. question about some deals that have. already been negotiated, but let's talk. about the deals that are supposed to. happen in the future somehow under. Sheriff Celely's watch here of the.

sports commission. I guess it was all. supposed to be market value and there's. like comps and everything and they. approve whether or not it's an overpay. or an underpay. How how is that possible. in marketing deals because you are worth. exactly what somebody's willing to pay. you in marketing deals? like are they. foreseeing a massive lawsuit coming down. the pipe in that type of world or will. Brian Cely be given the p uh power or. the unilateral power to be like no this. is what this type of deal is worth cuz.

it feels like that could potentially. that's the that's where it could still. get ugly, right? That's probably the the. only thing holding it all up. Oh yes, there will be lawsuits, Pat. That is uh. that is that is that is for certain. here. Um, I think the key term, if we. want to go inside baseball, uh, no pun. intended, is that the the fair market. value, uh, quote you just mentioned, is not. actually the term that's in the. documents. Now, it's called range of. compensation. And I think for the very. reason of the legal ties to they don't. want to be the ones determining fair.

market value. So, they're going to look. at a range of compensation, see where. this fits, and whether or not it is it. is approved. it it's going to be a lot. easier to talk about these deals once we. see them approved or not approved than. in the theoretical and nobody really. knows Pat how it's going to go until the. deals are funneled through the system. and ultimately they are done. Now, one. thing for the athletes that is a notable. shift is that these cases, so say your. deal is not approved and you uh you you.

appeal it, it goes to arbitration and. the whole process of appealing and. arbitration ruling is going to be 45. days. Uh you were around the NSA long. enough to know Pat like sometimes these. things stretched years and years and. years. So there is at least a focus on. efficiency and a more nimble system um. gauging what what they're going to say. yay and nay to what is a fair market or. what is the what is fair and what is not. that is going to be tricky like there's. there is there is no doubt about that I. I mean you obviously you obviously.

foresee a tension point there and it. it's it's that's uh it's hard to it's. hard to blame you uh forecasting that in. in the future yes for sure I didn't know. defensive ends got 40 million a year did. you know that did you know that. quarterbacks get $230 million fully. guaranteed no market said they don't. right until somebody comes in and says. they do the market is always whatever. the whatever somebody's willing to pay, you are worth exactly what somebody's. willing to pay you. So, I appreciate the. fact that they're trying to put a cap on. it. So, you know, these schools with all.

the money, you know, the Ohio State. Buckeyes. That's right. Of course. You. know, the Oregon Ducks, you know, the. Texas Longhorns, the Penn State Nitney. Lions, the Michigan Wolverines had. enough millionaires to begin with. Then. he brought in Larry Ellison who's a. billionaire to join them in that entire. thing, let alone in the SEC and what. they've been up to. How are they going. to be able to stop the NIL deals that. are on top of now the school salaries. from being absurd? Which then leads to. the deals that have already happened? Tone has a question for you. Yeah, Pete.

So, basically the schools are now. paytoplay for the athletes. Before that, it felt like the NIL collectives were. paytoplay. So, what happens to the NIL. collectives and then before this people. knew this was coming down, so they were. front-loading contracts for players this. year. Are those contracts still good? um. going forward and what do you see going. on with the NI NIL collective? Yeah, all uh all good questions. No, so. yes, there was a ton of front loading. and Pat referenced that date in early.

April where we that the industry thought. a ruling was going to come. So the the. the hurry up to frontload has really. been going on for uh for a few months. and my understanding is those deals that. have been already been brokered are not. going to be subject to uh to to. scrutiny. Um so pushing forward tone. Um. sorry I lost train of thought on your. question. The the second part was what's. going to happen with the NIL. collectives. Yes. So that sorry about. that. So the collectives are are still. going to exist. I I think ideally when.

they start to set up this system they. set it up so that um the collectives. would no longer be part of the industry, but that's just not the case in a free. market like we uh like we say. So. ultimately, I see the collectives. becoming almost like marketing arms that. are going to help players get deals. And. if you have a professional one um that. falls within industry standards, that. becomes a competitive advantage for you. So basically all those teams that Pat. just mentioned, the Ducks, the Buckeyes, the Wolverines, the Longhorns, etc., they are going to have access to more. deals, and that is essentially going to.

give them an advantage outside of the. 20.5 million and how it all works. But, uh, you guys are doing a really good job. distilling where these tension points. are going to come. Um, because what they. don't want is, you know, John John. Business in downtown Indianapolis just. randomly giving a Hooser $3 million in a. payforplay thing, but actually judging. what is market range of compensation, whatever you want to call it. Um, and. what is pay for play is is where this is. going to be fascinating, especially if.

you're a private business, right, which. you can, you know, in this country do. what you want to do. So there are there. are tension points looming and it's. going to be Brian Silly's job to not. only navigate Pat which I think is. important but also explain what works. and what doesn't and why cuz the the NCA. system was always very distant vague. non-transparent and this system if it's. going to work has to be transparent and. then if people do break the rules and. they're caught breaking the rules there. has to be punitive punishments in order. for people to respect the rules which. was not the case in the old system. So,

we happen to be athletes that do. sponsorship deals. So, why would we. potentially be able to forecast what's. coming down the pipe? Uh, I think cuz. I've done all these things. I I think. because I've had to do all these and I'm. going to let you know that if if I was a. player and some company was going to. give me $1.5 million and then CE's crew. says 250,000 is what's right. That's an. immediate That's a $1.25 million. Hey,

I'm getting screwed here. And that's. just the way the world works. Like, that's loud. That's a lawsuit. That's. some sort of I I mean, I don't know. And. it's like, we thought that the revenue. sharing was going to be the right play. cuz now they have a salary cap in the. schools are paying. So, we know it's. actual real contracts. We know that. they're not going to get bamboozled. We. know they're not going to lie to. But. the fact that all the other stuff isn't. like banned, you know, and not saying it. should be banned cuz guys should be able. to collect their money however they. collect, but the fact that that's still.

available. It's like, well, you still. have the NIL problem. You still have the. payforplay problem, but now it just has. to be worded in ways that Brian Cely and. the team say, yeah, it's okay. So, it's. just more paperwork almost as opposed to. just the Wild Wild West. Hopefully, it's. good for players. Hopefully, it's good. for teams. But it feels like there's a. chance that we're still in the middle of. chaos. As long as the product on the. field matters and is good, that's all. that matters. Now, let's talk about. another thing that was reported a part. of this entire ruling. Go ahead, AJ.

Yeah, Pete. I saw what over 28 billion. in back pay to former players. I think. going back to 2016, how did they come up. with that number? How did they come up. with the 2016 mark to to take it back. to? Yeah, so it's 2.8 billion, uh, AJ. And they came of that number through uh. a a complicated system that involved. metrics and income and and chopping up. uh different revenue streams that the. athletes needed to be a part of. And I. think this is all. pre2021 dating back a certain number of.

years. Unfortunately, not uh dating back. far enough for you and Pat to uh to to. capitalize on it. It does feel like. [ __ ] Chef Chang put this together. Feels like he was a part of it. Go. ahead, Pete. Sorry. Um, and then how it. gets distributed and you know the people. use uh Baker Mayfield, I see the picture. obviously up there. He he's he's. obviously you know the the type of. high-profile athlete who should profit. who should have profited and this is. going to be essentially backed by for. that. People talk about Zion Williamson.

a lot maybe as a marquee guy who. obviously could have commanded a lot of. money for his name image and likeness. during his uh during his season at Duke. Um, there are economists and people a. lot smarter than me working on how to. chop this up and there are there have. been stories about like NBA locker rooms. where there's like a representative and. guys go around so guys can essentially. like send an email and file for their. backpay. So that is that is in motion. right now. I'm not going to pretend to. understand the math well enough to. explain it to your broad audience Pat,

but we are in we are in the midst and. throws of that money being pushed back. That the 2.8 8 billion AJ is going to. come from different conferences. basically. So this is all a deal guys to. just sort of keep college sports going. and keep college sports on on the rails. and it is an imperfect solution. I think. we all know that. I don't think a a. random federal judge in Northern. California controlling the fate of a. billion dollar industry is what anyone. wanted. But because the industry had. gone so sideways and because the NCAA.

for so many decades had had been able to. had hadn't been able to adapt and. evolve, it's this is just sort of the. drastic lightning bolt to to pivot the. conversation, pivot the where the money. goes. But anyone who thinks this is a a. solution and there's going to be a. period of kumbaya after this is is. naive. There is there's going there are. going to be growing pains and the you. know they need people to follow along. This this industry and the and the. coaches in it and the schools in it have.

for decades basically when rules have. been set they have been they have. attempted to find ways around the rules. and the hope in the industry whether. it's naive or not we'll see is that now. that there are rules and there there is. money available for everybody people are. going to fall in line and follow the. rules. We'll see if it happens. Cel's got his hands full. Yeah. Yeah. People always Amen. I don't know how. they decide what deal is good, what deal. is not good. Cuz if you give a let's say. you give some percentage ratio deal to.

somebody and you don't give it to. somebody else. Now you automatically. start cuz like what would they approve? What would they. each city is different now? Each school. is going to be different. Each city they. live in like oh does this guy have a. million 10 million TikTok followers that. drives the value up? Like do they they. evaluate all of this? Yeah. But if you. buy a bunch of fake Hey lads, you. ladies, I'm watching these softball. players make a million bucks, too. I. mean, all college athletes, listen, you. just go buy those fake followers. You go. into court, this what you got. They.

can't say no to anything. They can't. I. don't think they're going to have the. power to say no to any deal. I don't. know how you do without getting sued. I. I genuinely don't know how you do that. Yeah. I mean certainly Pat, I think. there's an expectation that that things. are going to be legally challenged and. that's ultimately going to help help. form how this stuff goes. Yeah. That my. lighting my lighting is agreeing with me. cuz it's blinking. Yeah. Yeah. That's. Yeah. Blink once. If you agree if it's. cuz imagine them turning down a deal. What if it's for a kid? Think about the.

story that they can paint. Okay. The. ceiling kid comes from nothing. $1.25 million signing bonus available. also getting paid from the salary cap. 500,000 bucks or whatever from the. salary cap for his job because they're. going to do percentages of NFL rosters. and what they make. That's how they're. going to end up making the 146 million. who's worth what they'll be able to say. this is equitable and everything like. that. But some NIL deal is going to come. in. It's 1.25 million bucks for two. posts or something like that. And then. Celley is going to say no. And then this.

kid could potentially have a lawyer say. this kid comes for nothing with sleeping. on the ground and now he's got a company. that wants to give him $1.25 $25 million. and they're saying no, he can't have. $1.25 million. Just think about the All. right, good luck, Cely. I'm pulling for. you. I'm pulling for you. I'm pulling. for you. There is a way to make money. for your school, though, allegedly. Go. ahead, Con man. Yeah, Sam. Well, everyone was reporting over the weekend. that uh college football, the video game. NCAA 2K, whatever the newest one that's. coming out this summer, uh will actually.

pay schools based on how much their. school is used in the game. So, the most. popular teams like last year were Ohio. State, Oregon, they would get more money. because more players online and things. are using their team. In theory, does. this mean if we all use West Virginia or. or Ball State that these schools could. earn, you know, millions of dollars. because of that or or how does that. payout exactly work? Connor, that's an excellent question. Uh.

my instinct upon seeing that report was. that it was a very wise marketing. gimmick because hence we're talking. about it here on national uh on national. TV and it's a good way to incentivize. uh you know fans to go and support their. teams etc etc. I don't think the the. money involved here is particularly uh. particularly game-changing or anything. It's I think it's sort of uh gussied up. bragging rights perhaps would be the uh. would be the best way to would be the. best way to put it. gussied up bragging. right. Hey, listen. We need to put we.

need Pat White and Steve Sllayton back. on the game and we need everybody. playing West Virginia and we need to go. ahead and run it up. We need to run it. up. Pete, we appreciate you keeping us. updated on all of it. It sounds like we. get some more answers and then more. questions arise. That's college sports. in a nutshell. How many lawsuits are. going to be coming from the sports that. don't get as much money as the revenue. share as well to the individual schools. themselves? That's probably something, too. Oh, yeah. Well, athletic departments. have difficult decisions to make, Pat, because if you're an SEC school that.

really values basketball, like non-. Kentucky, and look, the SEC had the. greatest single basketball season. conference has ever had. How do you, you. know, how if you're an athletic. director, do you chop things up to keep. your basketball relevant, vibrant, and. competitive in the most difficult league. in the country? But at the same time, you can't cut into king football, which. is why the NIL question really comes. into refocus because if you do not have. the if you don't have a lot of funds as. an SEC school, uh because football's. getting it, rightfully so, they're the. they're the biggest revenue driver. How. do you go find money to have a.

competitive roster? We've seen the. headline about UNCC's roster being. around $14 million. Um Kucky's is is in. the teens or perhaps even a little bit. above this year from uh from what's been. reported. So there's, you know, the. landscape has gone sideways with all. this frontloading. And the thing that. I'm probably most skeptical of, Pat, is. that all of a sudden everything is going. to get right sized and people are going. to make less. Like we don't see in. booming multi-billion dollar industries. people making less. So eventually that's.

going to become difficult right sizing. I don't want to do it well actually to. you, but CBA happened. AJ was preca. Oh, when the drafties used to just make like. more than 10 year vets, like Matthew. Stafford got like 60 million or. something the year I was drafted number. one overall pick. So, they they reset. that market pretty quickly with the new. CBA and Epsus was like, well, your your. generation kind of just gets screwed by. it. And then you move forward. It was.

still millions and millions and millions. of dollars obviously, but it was vastly. different than what it was. There's a. chance that there's a generation now of. kids that are going to have to. experience that where it's like if you. were two years older, you would have got. you would have got 8 million bucks for. one year, buddy, to go up to Michigan. and play quarterback. But instead, they're trying to find those rules. I. think there's a lot of chaos still to. kind of figure out. Cely is the right. guy for the job. I hate being negative. immediately upon seeing that he was from. the MLB. I don't like that. I don't like. that I was just immediately negative. about that. But the fact that you said.

he was an attorney general, is that what. you said? Yeah. a USA out of Washington. DC. He spent a year at the Senate. Judiciary Committee. I mean, your. credentials, Pat, are you know, extremely impressive. He's clearly a. bright guy who has experience in, you. know, the highest levels of courts and. in the highest levels of professional. sports. Um whether that means he can. solve this vexing college sports issue, we shall see. It will be a challenge. All right. Well, Sheriff Cely is going. to do a great job just like the. authority Pete Damo always does. We. appreciate you, brother.

AJ, he's not gonna they're not going to. be able to turn down anything. Can't do. anything. How can you shut down? Like. every deal is its own specific thing. Like how do you have 5,000 people. working on this? Yeah. I don't And and. also, yes, they would have to have a. full committee. They would all have to. be able to see the exact same things. And who's deciding what the range is for. how much money you're allowed to make? You know, like I just brought up Miles. Garrett and Deshun Watson just as two. examples so people can like just have a. reference for what a market is. There's. people that break the market. Like that. is how the market continues to evolve.

And you're like, well, they're not worth. that. Well, they are. You know why? Because somebody was willing to pay. that. It's like, so how is this group. committee going to be able to be like, nah, he ain't worth that. That ain't. what you're worth. Like, if these people. want to pay somebody a lot of money to. make them popular, they could do that. You know, I don't think they have, but I. think they could choose to do that. I. think they've tried a couple times in. the past, but it's like who says how. much money they're willing to spend to. make their business better is within the.

reasonable price or not? Like who who. gets that? That's never going to the. lawyers win. Definitely will be. But me. as a person who has represented myself. and negotiated my own deals and has had. to put the number on what I think the. deal should be worth and have had people. like call me and be like, "Hey, if they. counter you, they are debating your. number. You are in there defending your. number." Like that is literally the last. marching order was before I went into a. ninef figureure negotiation was, "Hey,

defend your number when you go in. there." So, it's like every agent or. every one of these players is going to. defend their number and it's like if. they get paid that, who says they're not. worth that? I don't know how you stop. that. I think that's just what it is. going forward. Legitimately, I think. that's probably what life is going. forward. I appreciate Sheriff Cely. signing up for the gig, but I don't know. how many legally he's going to be able. to say no to. Like, I I just don't know. how you're going to be able to say no. For schools, too. uh we remember or the.

graphic of you know the percentage of. teams that a school had I believe it was. LSU that were in the green making money. and that were in the red losing money. So, like if you're an athletic director, how can you decide to take money away. from, let's say, the football team. that's making 100x uh over the softball. team or soccer team or something like. that or vice versa where it's like, hey, soccer, you haven't made you don't make. the school any money, so we're going to. take a million of your dollars and give. it to the football team. Like, are they.

able to do things like that? You also. have to remember they have to hit a. certain amount to get to the 20 million. max. Yeah. remember cuz some schools. aren't going to be able to hit the $20. million revenue share cuz they're not. going to hit the amount of money in. revenue to get to that point. I mean. there's just so many conversations about. this cuz UNCC um I believe a big part of. the negotiation between Bill Bich. Lombardi and them uh I think Bichc was. obviously representing himself but I'm. just saying Lombardi was general manager. was there would we be able to hit the. revenue would we be able to hit the max. revenue and it's like yes we'll be able.

to hit the max revenue now UNCC. basketball plays how much will they give. up and then you think about some of. these schools that have a lot of Olympic. sports like I I remember talking to. people up in Michigan and they're like. we have a lot of Olympic YPC sports. here. So, how much money are they going. to give? We're very proud of the amount. of Olympians that come out of Michigan, it's like sharing that money. I think if. you listen to a lot of athletic. directors or coaches or people that have. to make a decision on what percentage is. going where, they all want a mandate. from Celely. We would like we would like. you to make a mandate. Yeah. So, like. can you give a percentage has to go to.

you get pressured to like get rid of. sports. I mean, cuz the more the more. sports you have the you're at a bigger. disadvantage from other schools that may. not have as many sports you have to. share that with. That's where it's going. to get the messiest. You mentioned it. without a doubt because all of these. school like the SEC I mean we're talking. about them in baseball like they are the. best baseball college baseball. conference by far. But a lot of these. Yeah. Like I mean also gymnastics. Yeah. Gymnastics. I mean probably a couple of. these other sports but then you. mentioned like the Olympic stuff like. they're going to a lot of these schools. are going to basically have to say like.

hey sorry we don't give a [ __ ] about. anything but football you know and like. that's just a reality and that's. absolutely going to happen. But I think. you're right. I think where the other. sports come in and like scholarships. getting pulled or people not getting. money like that's where this is going to. get really messy. Joining us now ladies. and gentlemen I assume he you know what. I'm excited to get his take on this. actually. He is currently the only. sports cer who calls NBA, NFL, MLB and the National Hockey League. Tonight he'll be on the call for game. three down in Florida in a series that's.

tied one to one. First game goes to. overtime. Second game goes to double. overtime. Talk about the two best teams. in the league. We're talking about one. of the best voices in the history of. sports. Ladies and gentlemen, a man. who's been broadcasting since 1990. Wow. I was three years old. Four. Holy. hell, what a legend. Ladies and. gentlemen, Kenny Kenny, how are you, Kenny? You were three, Pat. I think I was seven at the time back in. 19. Yeah, but you nailed it. You nailed. it at three or seven years old. You were.

unbelievable, just like you are now. Um, thank you for joining us. I want to just. kind of set the table to get your take. on this. I assume you love college. sports. You seem like you're just a. sports guy in general. College sports is. at a wild time and we all appreciate the. fact that players are making money. It's. the wild wild west. Now the schools are. going to be paying a salary. Then. there's also going to be NIL. All we. care about is that the sports don't get. ruined, right, Kenny? That's kind of the. thought at the end. Yeah, absolutely. You know, I don't get. to see as much college football as you.

might think because I'm always at an NFL. city over the weekend. We'll have it on. on Saturdays, but you can't fully pay. attention. But I'm a big college sports. fan. Love college basketball. And you. know, when I was growing up back in the. 70s and 80s, I think back to Big East. basketball, uh, Georgetown, St. John, Syracuse, Villanova, you knew which. schools were in which conference, right? The players stayed for three or four. years. The conferences never changed. So, that was sort of the the glory days. in my opinion of of college basketball. It's changed a lot since then. um you.

know, a lot for the better. But as far. as what you're talking about, uh uh it. is hard sometimes to follow which. players playing for which school, which. schools in which conference, but uh you. know, I I guess that's for a lot lot. smarter people than me to figure out. Hopefully, uh Sheriff Cely is able to. figure that out of the MLB. I'm sure you. know him with all your work you've done. in baseball. Let's talk about the NHL. Let's talk about a Stanley Cup final. that is living up to the hype. Back-to-back games in overtime, second. game in double overtime. What are your.

thoughts on how the boys are playing. right now and what should we expect for. tonight, Kenny? Well, it's been an. unbelievable series so far and and I. appreciate you having me on. I think the. last time we chatted was uh during the. Stanley Cup final two years ago uh. between Vegas and Florida. Uh our NHL on. TNT crew covered that one. Rotates every. year. So, uh our friends over at ESPN. had Florida Edmonton last year and now. we're thrilled to be back on the series. this year. Um, and I don't mean to, you. know, start with a name drop, but. regards Pat from, uh, about 20 minutes.

ago, I was with Eddie Olane Gratzky. having lunch, um, here at the hotel. Wayne was telling us about, you know, what a great time he had on with you. last week, and, you know, Eddie. remembers meeting you back in the day. when he was playing for the Penguins and. coaching the Penguins. So, those guys, say hello first off. Well, jeez. Hey, hey, Kenny, will you please tell The. Great One in Eddie Ole that uh that I. said hello and I'm a massive fan as. well. The fact that Wayne Gretzky came. on our show. Absurd. He was so kind to. us. So kind to us. What a legend, Kenny.

What a legend. He's the He's the best. As good a player as he was, he's even a. better person. And I mentioned to him. that I was about to come on and he said, "I had such a great time with Pat last. week. Please pass that along to him.". So, thank you, Wayeno. We had a great. time, too, Wayne. and Eddie Olch and Brian. Buchet and Darren Pang were with us as. well. Those guys love you. But as far as. this series, games one and two and the. only one this way because I've been. around a lot of other media people, TV.

and radio people uh for this entire. series among the best games we've ever. witnessed in person as far as the. hockey. Uh the level of play, you know, you mentioned two unbelievable teams. The first game felt like an extension, it felt like game eight, an extension of. last year's Stanley Cup final. And then. on to game nine. And you know, when you look at both. first periods, uh, a combined eight. goals scored in the first periods of the. two games, the Florida Panthers had the. lead going into the third period in both.

games. Edmonton ties it, sending it to. overtime. The late goal by Cory Perry. Uh, we've had four lead changes, two. overtime, uh, you know, thrillers. So, uh, you know, we certainly hope those of. us involved in this series and for the. viewers and the fans, hopefully. hopefully it goes seven and we have five. more overtime games. Amen. More hockey, more free hockey. We love it. Stanley. Cup finals living up to everything we. could have dreamed of in this finals. rematch. Go ahead, AJ. Kenny, what's it. like being in person watching Conor.

McDavid move up and down that ice and. just how fast he is it? When we watch on. TV, I get a sense of it, but I would. imagine in person that's something. special to witness. Oh jeez. Well, AJ, I know you're very. close to uh you know, some players. around the NHL, some family members, and. I'm sure they've told you the stories. about uh you know, what it's like to be. on the ice with the Conor McDavid. I was. chatting with one of the referees who's. involved in the series and uh he said, you know, Nathan McKinnon's probably. number two, but as far as the speed,

there's nothing like McDavid and what, you know, when he gets going and skates. through the neutral zone, and McKinnon's. probably the guy in the league who's. who's next on the list, you know, as far. as being close to McDavid. Um, in. Edmonton, we we have the good fortune. our broadcast booth is down low. It's on. the first concourse level. It's about 25. rows up or right behind the stands. Uh. it's a great view. The press box there, you know, where some of the other. broadcasters are is pretty high up, but. to watch those first two games from uh.

not right against the glass, but a lot. closer to the ice than we usually do. And and when he gets going, uh it's just. something special to watch. And then you. throw in Leon Dryidle and, you know, some of the other unbelievable players. in this series. And on the other side, you watch what Sam Bennett's been doing. in the playoffs and Brad Marshia. I know. not not as far as the speed of McDavid, but just some of the plays they've been. making. But, uh, you know, it'll be. fascinating tonight with with Florida. having the last change. Uh, will they.

try to get Barov out there as much as. possible against McDavid? You know, which defense pairing will they try and. get out? So, we'll keep an eye on the. chess match. But just getting back to. AJ's original question, uh it's it's. just a different it's a different speed. We we were talking about it with Wayne. um you know, a little while ago. Um I. think his son joked to him, you know, imagine if you had McDavid speed back in. the day and you know, Wayne looked like. he was twice as good as any other player. that was out there during his entire.

career. So it's a lot of fun to watch. Yeah, it certainly is. and Weno with. McDavid speed would have been certainly. something to watch cuz he said, you. know, we'd sweat, we get 10 lbs of uh. sweat in the old leather skates. It. could kind of slow you down a little. bit, don't you? Sorry. Sorry about it. That cooking that he did up that's in a. Stanley Cup final. That's not like game. one or game two. That's like game 40, middle of the season. Like that's ah. pretty good defenders. Yes, Stanley Cup. final. Two best teams and those he made.

in the past just incredible. I see you. Stanley Cup final. This is. not an All-Star game. People are trying. There's a Lord Stanley Cup on the line. Okay, let's move along here and talk. about you, Kenny, on the call. We can't. wait to hear you yet again tonight. Ty. has a question for you. Yeah, Kenny, when you look around every broadcaster. or most broadcasters who are, you know, worth their salt. You're certainly in. that conversation. Mike Breen's got. Bang, you know, and there are a laundry. list of others. You don't really have an. opportunity to do it in hockey as much,

but one of my favorite things about. watching you on the call is you just get. a quick concise yes. You just you pop. that in time and time again. I don't. know if that's like considered your. trademark cuz it's got a little bit of. your dad in there too, but uh are you. notice like do you consider that a. trademark? How did that come to be? And. uh can if you can can you maybe pepper. like 50 to 60 of those into the game. tonight? Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Well, it's. funny in in hockey, you know, you're. right. Um, you know, Mike Breen has the.

tremendous bank call, and I know there. was a little controversy because he. didn't use it for how Burton and I read. I read an article where he said it's. mostly for three-point shots, not not. two-point shots. Oh, okay. Okay. More. national media [ __ ] Well, that's. that's what I read. I don't know. That's. what I read the other day. I know. I. know. I I read it, too. I'm not thrilled. about it. We deserved a back there, you. know. Yeah, I'd say. Yeah. Yeah. Sorry. about it. Go ahead. People often ask me. about, you know, signature calls and do. you come up with do you have a prepared.

line, for example, when the when the. team wins the Stanley Cup, and I don't. write out a whole paragraph, but I do. get some phrases, some key words and. phrases in my mind. Uh, when I worked. the 2021 Tampa Bay Lightning won the. cup, they had won the previous year as. well. So, I was throwing some words. around and came up with Lightning. strikes twice. Uh so when the game. ended, Lightning strikes twice, the. Tampa Bay Lightning win the Stanley Cup. Uh with Vegas two years ago, it was the. silver trophy to the Golden Knights. Um.

so that was what I used on that. And. then this year we had the Ovetkin. record-breaking game. Uh speaking of. Wayne Gretzky, and we were lucky enough. to be there with our TNT crew back in. early April on Long Island, and he had. scored two goals in the previous game to. tie the record. And I was watching that. in a hotel room in Atlanta. And I have. been thinking about, you know, what I. would possibly do if he scored that. goal. And I was throwing around in my. mind, you know, he's the great eight and. Wayne's the great one. And then Joe.

Benati, who does a terrific job on. Washington Capitals games, um, he sort. of used that for the tying goal for 894. So I said, well, I can't go, you know, I. can't go in that direction now because. Joe did it for the tying goal. So when. he scored that goal, 895, it kind of. came out naturally, the goal call. Um, and then I I got in the number 895, but. then I got out of the way and in, you. know, in TV, what we call laying out. And there have been a couple of other. occasions in my career, the Bautista. home run in bat flip back in 2015, some.

other big overtime series winners. Um, I. just shut up and get out of the way. And. and so many other great broadcasters, uh, Joe Buck comes to mind and many. others, uh, do the same thing. They let. the pictures tell the story and the. sounds from the arena or the stadium. And it's ironic, some of the some of the. biggest praise that playby-play. announcers get uh is when we don't say. anything, when we shut up and get out of. the way. And that was my philosophy with. the Ovanskin goal. I know on the Cory.

Perry tying goal, I yelled scored twice. Maybe I was thinking about Mike Breen. with the double bang. I don't know. on. some of the big goals and I I think I. did it uh you know for some other big. goals. We had that great Winnipeg St. Louis game seven when Winnipeg was down. three to one and scored two goals in the. last two minutes and won the game in. overtime. So sometimes you let it just. come out naturally and then shut up and. get out of the way. Are you honey? You. drinking honey? What do we uh do you got. some stuff for the voice? What's the.

voice work? You know very fortunately. knock on wood I haven't had many issues. through the years. Um, and we deal with. a lot of late flights and early. mornings. Um, Hall's cough drops are. probably my secret remedy. Yes, I I. don't I don't I don't drink coffee. I. don't drink tea unless I have a sore. throat. A lot of Diet Cokes. I'm a big. Diet Coke guy, but. throat, the halls, cough drops, that's. about it. Okay. Well, the voice always. sounds so pure. You know, it always. sounds so damn great. I'm very envious.

Just know that cuz I'll wake up on a. rain on Tuesday and it'll just be. nothing. I'm like, what the hell. happened? Oh, I must slept with my mouth. open last night. Okay. So, now you're. you guys have you guys have to talk for. hours. So, you have to preserve that. voice, right? Yeah, I know. And I try to. That's why I asked that's why I was. like, "Hey, what are you doing?" Every. person that's a singer, I try to ask. them what they do. Some of them have. some real. interesting some of your favorite. singers. Really? Like what? Remedies. Like what? Like you know the uh like a. Vix steamer. Mhm. I've seen older.

generations of Gumby's laughing. Gumpy. was there with me. Gumpy was Yeah. This. guy. Okay. Is the guy. Yep. Brought it. out, put it on the counter. We were. having a conversation and just started. huffing. I mean, just huffing this steam. for 35 minutes. I think conversation. with us, then right back into it like it. was a ventilator. And it was just Vick. steam just going right down. I'm like, that's true. Now, now I will say this. um radio broadcast, hockey versus TV. I.

don't have to talk as much on TV. You. don't have to describe as much as you do. on radio. And I have two color analysts. plus we have Darren Pang and Jackie. Redmond downstairs. There are five of us. contributing. But I've done radio for 29. years with the Rangers. And there have. been some playoff runs. 2014, for. example, I was going back and forth in. the conference final. Uh Rangers were. playing Montreal. I was working those on. radio and then LA against Chicago on TV.

just about every other day and red eyes. and flights. That was the time period. where I was most concerned uh because. there it was a lack of sleep and a lot. of flights and early morning flights on. game days. But fortunately uh no issues. during that time. Did you just have to. put the sigs down for that run? No sig. smoking. Yeah, I get it. Nightmare. Well, I should have thought of that back. then. Yeah, get that little gravel in. there. Get a little gravel in there. Connor has a question for you. Yeah, Kenny, it feels like you have called. every single sport for so long and. throughout that time, so many of these. sports have changed. Is there one sport.

you look at that uh has changed the. most? I assume baseball is the only one. that hasn't changed as much just cuz. it's still boring, but as far as the. other ones go, uh what sports do you. like? It's not boring. Ratings are up. I. actually watched I actually watched a. baseball game this weekend, so I don't. know why I would pick this time to say. that. But, uh, Kenny, is there one sport. that has changed the the most out of the. four major ones? You know what, to be. honest, Connor, um, and I don't do as. much baseball as the other sports, anywhere between five and 10 games, uh,

every summer on Fox, but I think. baseball may be the answer because of. the pitch clock in recent years. Um, that's really sped it up and and a lot. of strategy changes and the ghost runner. and extra ratings. Um, you know, as far. as the other sports, we've seen new. rules and I think replay, you know, especially in football in the NFL when I. started with Fox back in 94, that's when. replay was first coming in and the. technology and, you know, going to the. to the replay rooms in the various. sports, football in New York, hockey.

situation room, Toronto, basketball, they go to Sakus, New Jersey. So, I. think the replay, video review, challenge aspects in every sport, uh, that's probably the biggest change. But. I would say baseball from a broadcasting. standpoint, and I tell this to I speak. to high school and college broadcasting. students, um, every year, various camps. and programs, uh, that I visit and so. many other announcers, uh, do as well.

Um, as far as playbyplay, hockey, especially on the radio, but hockey in. general, radio or TV, it's just a. continuous action for 60 minutes. You're. calling the play. It's exciting. It's. fast. Basketball similar. 48 minutes, the ball's in action, but there are more. whistles, more fouls, more stoppages. Um, football is the most rhythmic to. call. And I know Pat's been in the booth. for football games. And by the way, I. love what you guys did during the. college football playoffs doing the. playbyplay, you know, right down on the. field. That was very entertaining. But,

uh, football, it's one play and then. it's 20 or 25 seconds for the analyst to. come in. It's another play 20 or 25. seconds. Baseball, the ball's only in. play 8 to 12 minutes during an entire. game. So, if you're up in the booth, there's a lot of downtime to fill. So, I. think it's the most challenging, but the. the pitch clock has certainly uh set it. up over the last several years. I've. spoken to baseball announcers. Uh Howie. Rose in New York who does an. unbelievable job with the Mets and. called NHL games for 30 years. He said. calling baseball now almost feels like a.

hockey game because of the the speed. between pitches and you have to be uh. right on it in case the next pitch is. thrown. There's not as much time to tell. stories in between pitches and in. between outs. Okay. Sorry, you just blew. my mind there with that 8 to 12 minutes. of actual gameplay in a 4hour baseball. game. I try to do the percentages there. So you do the math. 8 to 12. Put it at. 10. Baseball game is what? 240 minutes. Four hours. No, like two and a half. hours. These days with the pitch clock 2.

and 1/2, 240. They used to be three. hours. Um I might have told you this. story the last time I was on. I once. worked a 20 in game. Never went to the. bathroom. Oh yeah. Yeah, I remember. You. dumped your pants. Yeah. it'll move to that. These days it's. about 2 and 1/2 hours uh with the pitch. clock, but that's they they've done. studies. It's actually only 8 to 12. minutes that the ball's in play during. an average baseball game. I'll tell you, I've been watching more baseball just. like Connor mentioned there. Ratings are.

up across all networks for baseball. I. think it's because their superstars are. playing well, but I guess it isn't a. high it'll never be never be called a. high action sport, you know, never be. college baseball though had some action. I don't know. The World Series last. year, it was awesome. It depends too. because like if if you get like a. pitcher duel like personally like I. think that is incredibly like watching. skins and he's just mowing people down. You got to think like a lot of those. balls are never getting put into play. I.

love watching you know what I mean? Like. and that's that's a super entertaining. brand. It's just like you can get some. nights where so many seats open. Yeah. A. lot of empties. So many open seats. Right behind the plate. The team. He. just needs to watching him. He's so good. at baseball. You're the Yankees, buddy. Winning record since Don Kelly's taken. over. They're playing salty ball. Yeah, that's right. The Pirates are getting. hot at the right time. Don't look now. Don't look now. Only got about That's a. beautiful That's a beautiful ballpark in. Pittsburgh. Love that place. Don't you. think they should sell the team though,

Kenny? I I probably haven't followed it as. closely as you have. So, uh I just love. I haven't been there in a while for. baseball, but love Wharton games. Beautiful setting there. Kenny, I put. you in a terrible spot there. I put you. in a bad spot there to say that. And uh. I apologize. Are you Are you looking to. buy the team? Goodbye to Pirates. No. No. I don't. There's That's a few decades away. We. got to get really lucky to be able to. buy a team like the Pirates are how. expensive it is. The problem is the guy. that owns it, he knows that, too. Yeah.

and he's just sitting there on a fat. cash and he doesn't care about making. the team better. Even though we got a. guy, we got the guy. But speaking of. that, we got the guy. He's playing well. Show's playing well. Aaron Judge is. playing well. It's like all the stars. are playing well across baseball. It's a. good time to be a baseball fan. It's. also a great time to be a hockey fan, especially if you're from South Florida. Debut has a question for you. As as Pat. mentioned, South Florida kid still a. resident down there. in in that bubble. at least the sport has grown in. popularity uh immensely. I'm even seeing.

in my neighborhood you know hockey nets. on the street that you would never see. 10 20 years ago. Have you felt it at all. in your personal life as a commentator. now more people just talking about. hockey because I feel like the guy half. the guys in here probably grew up hockey. fans but most guys casual fans of sports. uh maybe that wasn't the case. Well, in. South Florida, absolutely. You know, we. we've been coming down here for the last. few years to do playoff games, but I've. been coming here, you know, ever since. the Panthers entered the league in in. '93, and they did go to the final in '.

96, but after that, they went 25 years. without winning a playoff series. And uh. the building was half empty for a long. time. and uh what they've been able to. do over these last four years. They won. the President's Trophy, best regular. season record. Then they went to the. Stanley Cup final against Vegas, won the. cup last year. So, it's been an. unbelievable four-year stretch. And uh. Vinnie Viola and his wife Teresa, they. own the team. The general manager, Bill. Zo, they've all done an unbelievable job.

uh promoting the sport of hockey here in. South Florida over this recent stretch. And now they have a a a great new. practice facility. I was just over there. this morning. It's it's in Fort. Lauderdale about 2 milesi from the. beach. So, a lot of the players live in. that area. Head coach Paul Maurice said. he lives two blocks from the practice. rink. He rides his bike to practice. every day. Some of the players drive. golf carts. So, it's really become a. destination in the NHL uh because of the. way they treat their players, the. weather, um and just the level of talent.

that they have on this team. you know, they were they were a an excellent team. when they won the regular season title, but then they trade for Matthew. Kachchuck and that, you know, as far as. culture, that that just added to it, you. know, the type of player and person that. he is. He's out there uh you know. amongst the fans promoting the sport and. they have a superstar captain in. Bararkov and a superstar goalier in. Babski and and then they bring in a Brad. Marshand and a Seth Jones uh prior to. the deadline and and here they are three. wins away from another Stanley Cup. But.

you could sense, you know, all the games. are sold out now. There's so much talk. about hockey in the South Florida area. So we've certainly seen that here. Um, but you look at the Wayne Gretzky. influence. You know, he goes to LA in 88. and gets to a cup final in 93 and all of. a sudden kids in California are playing. hockey. Kids in some of the other warm. weather states are playing hockey, the. Sunb Belt states. And now you look. around, you have two teams in Florida. that have gone to the final six straight. years. Tampa Bay Lightning, three.

straight years, and now the Florida. Panthers three straight years. The. Dallas Stars have been to the conference. final three straight years. They won a. cup. They They won a cup back in 99. Vegas won a cup two years ago. Uh the. two teams in Southern California, the. Kings won two cups. The Ducks won a cup. back in 2007. So, um you know, once. Wayne went out there and and you know, he's he's such a humble man, you know, downplays it. But, uh that trade of. Gretzky from Edmonton to LA really set. the table in the United States for, uh.

these Sunb Belt teams who have all had. great success. Yeah, it was a it was a. great move for hockey to get Wayne O. down there. Wayne was emotional about. leaving Edmonton. Yeah, like he didn't. want to. Wayne was. Yeah, he was. Yeah. Wound up uh and and he's still beloved. in Edmonton. We were just up there with. him for for games one and two. He's got. a statue outside the arena. Um helped. lead the Oilers to the Four Cups and. then they won it fifth after he left in. 1990. you still had some of the other.

superstar players, but um he played such. a large role, you know, obviously in in. the success in Southern California and. then all these other Sunb Belt teams. coming in as expansion teams and you. could throw in Nashville into the mix. and uh Carolina, you know, moving down. from Hartford and all those teams have. have enjoyed great success. Hockeyy's. the best. Hockey is awesome. I'm happy. more people are learning about it. You. know, hopefully more people get a chance. to play it. Obviously, it's expensive. Hopefully they're able to figure that.

out going forward to get more people on. the ice. I liked hearing there's hockey. nets hockey nets on the street down. there in South Florida. It's a great. game. It's a great sport. Hey Gumpy, what are they saying about Texas hockey. down there? A lot of people playing. hockey now, huh? Cuz D'bor is uh running. D show down there. Dbor got [ __ ]. actually. Yeah, turns out turns out when. you bury the franchise goalie, one of. the best goalies in the league. They. probably don't like it very much. So. thanks for the good times, Pete. But hit. the bricks, pal. As you brought up. Dallas, as you brought up the Dallas.

Stars, we got a guy in the back who is a. Dallas Stars fan from Victoria, Canada. So, I mean, you piece that together. however if you want. He also likes the. Miami Dolphins and he likes the Boston. Red Sox. So, he likes the Red Sox, the. Miami Dolphins, and the Dallas. He's got. every corner of North America covered. with those teams. Yeah, I didn't think. about Go ahead. Dallas is Yeah, great. runs. Uh we did the conference final. there two years ago, or I should say. last year against Edmonton. Um yeah, they made the change. You know, we all.

know what took place with the Boore. pulling Oddinger and in the last game of. the Edmonton series, game five, and. their general manager, Jim Dill, came. out and said, "It's time for a new. voice." And uh Paul Maurice was asked. about her. He and Pete D'vor are very. close. They played junior hockey. together, uh 30 years ago, and he said, you know, Pete will definitely get. another job. He'll probably win. Jim Nil. said Pete will probably win a Stanley. Cup final. Wherever he goes next, he'll. probably win a cup. He's been to the. conference final, I think, six of the. last seven years, and he's brought two.

other teams to the cup finals. So, he's. a great coach. Uh, but you know, Pat, AJ, you guys know how it is in pro. sports. I think the average life cycle. in the NHL for a coach is probably three. years. There there are so many changes. every year and uh we'll see who the. Dallas Stars wind up hiring, but they've. had a great run, but they haven't been. able to make that final step into the. cup final. On that note, good luck to. coach Sullie in New York. Thank you for. the time in Pittsburgh. Uh that you had. fired from Pittsburgh, signs the biggest. contract in the history of coaching the.

next day for the Rangers or whatever. Just like Yeah, he's a great, you know, great coach, great man. He was in New. York as an assistant before under John. Torellles. So, uh looking forward to the. Mike Sullivan era in New York with the. Rangers. He brought us a lot of good. times in Pittsburgh. Got a good one. though. You talking about Muse? I am. I'm talking about Yeah. Yeah. Dan. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's not his. He was a Rangers assistant. That's the. new coach. Yeah, he coached in. Pittsburgh. He was a Rangers assistant. Um, I've heard a lot of good things. about him from uh people who are around.

some of his junior teams that he. coached. Uh, coached in the US National. Development Program. So, he's one of. those up and cominging coaches. He's in. his early 40s. Yes. Um, that have been. identified, you know, at a young age. You look at Spencer Carberry in. Washington and the job that he's done as. a young coach in the NHL. Just won the. Jack Adams award as coach of the year. Chris Knoblock in Edmonton his second. season, his second trip to the Stanley. Cup finals. So, the Penguins certainly. hope Dan Muse can lead the Penguins in.

the same direction as Carberry and. Knoblock have done with their teams. I. think a lot of people wondered about the. framing of the photo of Dan Muse in the. announcement of him being the new head. coach. You know, had him looking off to. the side there. Could have had some sort. of maybe a better photo of action. He's. he's looking down at he's looking down. at the goal to the left side of the ice. Oh, I got it. cuz that's where we're. scoring all. right so I think huge brand him and. Dubis are going to do a great job couple. young lads couple young lads there in. Pittsburgh going to turn it all around.

no Marco Stern well Sydney Crosby told. me a big night out a couple more years. we're going to be doing exactly what. we're doing here packing this place out. having a good time chasing Lordo Musey. is going to take us there brother don't. you worry about that yeah I don't know. about that um let's talk about you and. your career you said in 1990 you were. maybe seven years old whenever you got. your start we believe that you probably. could have been able to do as a. seven-year-old obviously because the. family in which you come from. Tone has. a question for you. Yeah, Kenny, I. believe I saw recently that you passed. your father for second most um let me.

get it right here. All time in national. calls at close to 1,500 games which. which is just absurd. All four major. sports obviously is now that you're. doing hockey right now is hockey you. talked about it being or the most action. for sure as in the booth but is that is. it the most fun sport to call? So, a couple of things there. Um, it's. amazing that there are people that keep. these lists uh of games called by. announcers. There's a gentleman named. Tony Miller in the Midwest who has a. site on social media. It's called.

Unnecessary Sports Research, and he. keeps charts of every sport, uh, play-by-play announcers, color analysts, sideline reporters, etc. So, it's it's. it's fun to check it out and see what. those numbers are. And, uh, yeah, last. week, I guess I pulled into number two. This is for NFL, NHL, NBA, and Major. League Baseball national broadcasts. It. doesn't count the local broadcasts. I. think that would be too hard to keep. track of. Um, for example, I've probably. worked over 2,000 national broadcast u.

sorry, local broadcasts as well. Uh, three years in Washington and now 29. years with the Rangers. But that's the. national list and it includes the other. sports like I said. um doesn't include, for example, college basketball, boxing, uh that a lot of others have done, but. you know, it's it's a huge honor to to. just be a part of that list and see some. of the other names that that are on. there. uh Dick Stockton number one on. that national list of the four sports, but uh very fortunate to be involved in.

in all of them uh with Fox since 1994 on. football and uh like I said some. baseball during the summer um NHL on NBC. for many years, Olympic hockey uh which. we're looking forward to again next year. and then uh DHL on TNT with an amazing. crew uh for the last four years and also. do the Rangers and some Nicks fill in on. MSG. So lucky to be around great people. Uh as far as my color analysts, the the. the the executives, the production.

people. Uh but yeah, crazy that it's. that many games. It does not include uh. the college wrestling event I did back. in the mid '90s. That's probably the one. event where I felt like I had no clue. what I was doing, even though I prepared. and talked to an Olympic wrestler, Jeff. Blatnik, and uh had a great color. analyst that day. And uh that was. probably the one. And I've done I've. done some other sports at the Olympics, uh, water polo, track and field, volleyball, but the college wrestling. probably the one where I I really felt.

like I had no clue what I was watching. What the hell do you get a point for. there? See, fly and he gets up. They put. him down. Was that Matt Madness? You. called Matt Madness. Uh, this was uh the. ACC. Speaking of college sports, it was. the ACC wrestling championships in. Chapel Hill back in 94 95 that era. I. wish I could have pulled it. By the way, Pat, I was when I was seven, I was. calling games into a tape recorder in my. bedroom at home. So, I was doing it back. then. Do we have those saved? Do we have.

those tapes? Have some of them. I do. I. do. Oh, that's amazing. I can't wait. I. could bring I could bring them on the. show next time if you'd like. Might. scare some people away. We would love. that. I I just assume whenever you go. into all the Hall of Fames, they will. have that in the intro videos. We. appreciate your service to sports. You're the man. We can't wait to watch. you tonight. Well, thanks so much for having me on, uh, Pat, AJ, the rest of the gang. Really appreciate it. A lot of fun. And, uh, hopefully game three is just as. exciting as games one and two. We assume. it will be because hockey is awesome.

Just like you and your entire TNT crew. Tell everybody we said hello. Ladies and. gentlemen, the men, Kenny Albert, why' they put Muse's photo like that? I. don't know. What do you mean? What do. you want it to be photo? You want to be. lifting weights or something? Yeah, maybe him skating. Maybe. Maybe him on. the ice. Just anything but this one, I. think. Yeah, he does look like a. nononsense son of a [ __ ] though. Mhm. Yeah. Yeah, he has no nonsense. I saw. him in a movie one time. What was it?

Slender Man. Few movies. Yeah, I bet. he's some bet he's in those porno films. you watched, Tony. The NHL put those. Jeez Louise. The NHL put this post out. The Penguins are fired. Okay, I can see. why they want Holy [ __ ] Are you kidding. me? They're going to win the next. appach. We appreciate you. Coach Moose, what the hell? The guy's the head coach. of Pittsburgh Penguins. Who built this. guy in the loser lab? It looks like Come.

on. That's not true. I just got a text saying that. uh big pop out of the entire chow hall. Nice. Whenever I said I'm not going to. be no Wy, then I believe they all called me a Wy. They got TVs. They got TVs there. Uh, in. the DI. Okay. There's a DI. Yeah. The. recruits watch the TVs and then they. have to act out what's happening on the. TVs. The recruits the recruits eye the. recruits eyes do not have. Yeah. Any. sight of a television time. Those.

recruits, man. I'll tell you, I. appreciate them. Hell yes, I do. appreciate it, too. Yeah, I do. We need. them. Yeah. Oh, yeah. URA. Hell yeah. Kill slay break chains. So many little. Yeah. Oh yeah, just listening to them. bop phrases back and forth around. town. So many badasses. So sick. One. place felt very safe there, you know. I. could see that's one of those places. that you're just walking around. It's. like all of these people, all of them.

could just handle whatever whenever. So. remember that whenever we think, man, this world's going [ __ ] We don't have a. we we got Marines. And I assume the. other branches of the military are. saying the same thing. But with these. guys, what I seen, we're in a good spot. for a long time. Packed out, too. That's good that sold. out, you know. Yeah. Sold out. No. vacancy. No vacancy. No vacancy. It's. going through there. And I guess summer. is the big time, you know, cuz high. school gets out of uh school and then it.

goes through there. So, the amount of. camps that are going on right now. currently at this moment. Think of the. weather. The weather in the summer there. for their training. Oh, it was so hot. So. I So so I mean I got burnt pretty good. I mean I got I got I got lit up pretty. good. Who's the [ __ ] in a tank top? Oh, I shouldn't be wearing it. You're. just going to get burnt. You look like a. [ __ ] idiot. You told me to wear what I wear. Yeah, I. was told to dress as I dress. That's. what I had so many questions going in.

there. I'm like, "What should I wear? Who am I allowed to talk to?" They're. like, "Just be yourself and wear what. you would wear." And I go, "You know I. dress like an asshole." They're like, "Just wear what you would wear." All. right, go down there. So much room for. sand fleas. Oh yeah, bet. So much. surface area. Oh yeah. So many mistakes. made. Sun beating the [ __ ] out of me. These. fleas. As I'm standing there on the. yellow. footprints, okay, 7 whatever. Been up. for 4 hours already. Holy [ __ ] Is this.

the longest day of all? As I'm standing. there, first sand flea of the day. I've. heard about it. I've heard about it. I. heard that these things are real. as I'm. standing there right on Q just. right through my face and I'm. like can't you imagine if I get this. [ __ ] thing off. me that look at old buddy. Jeez where his hands are a big deal. right there says a lot right there where.

his hands are great posture. great posture when I say ears you say. open sir do you. Understand? I sir. Yell. I sir. I sir. Ears. What? That didn't sound like ears. That didn't sound anything like. ears. Eyes. Snap, sir. Too slow. When I. say eyes, you snap your head and you say. snap, sir. Do you understand? Eyes, sir. Do you understand? I sir. Yell. I sir. I.

sir. Eyes. [ __ ] I forgot that. Snap. Snap, sir. Damn. Back to the beginning. I know. I know. I I don't I couldn't. even imagine 18 years old. I have a. Yeah, boy. You know why they call yellow. there? Pass in your pants. And I was pretty close soon as he cuz I. didn't see him. The two took me out. I. got I had two took me out of the van. There's a van over back his shoulder. there like that way that I got pulled.

out of two. guys, you know, get to the thing. I get. there, all of a sudden old buddy here. comes walking out of sights unknown. I've not seen it. It's like, "Oh, this. is the [ __ ] one here. This is Stone. Cold Steve Austin coming in." So, I. didn't even know what he looked like. while I was looking ahead. And then. whenever he got in front of me, I was. like, "This guy's playing no [ __ ]. game, you know." Obviously, there's a. little bit of spit going. Sure. Obviously, there's a little bit of spit. A little bit of spit going. You worried? If not, don't move. Don't.

move. Then you go from there to the uh. in front of the silver hatch which is in. front of the building. That's like uh. let's say 15 yards 20 yards. They're. telling me to hurry up to get there. So. I'm like do I run? Yeah, I was about to. say. Am I supposed to run? Yeah. March. Run. You got to burst. What? Yeah. No. run. Do not run. I guess if I would have. ran it would have been a big just speed. walk. I I think you're supposed to go. pace. Make it look supposed to be a. little Hey, you know. And then they're. like these doors. did the entire thing. and I'm like I should not be standing.

here. I kind of this is like a very. important thing and then across the top. obviously which I did not even look up. and see because I was scared if I lifted. my head up like this I was going to. get from the other two so I didn't. So. as he says move for me to walk through. the doors I literally ask I'm not going. and like this way I go around like move. They were I mean I was in it. I was a. recruit there. sit down in these steel. chairs or silver chairs. The only one in.

there. See that means a lot of eyes on. me. All three of them. Sit down. Stand. up. Sit down. I sir, stand up. I sir, sit down, I sir. Cuz he tells me only to. listen to him. Okay. Little bit of a. mind [ __ ] Outside. He told me, "You. will listen to me and only me going. forward. Do you hear me?" I sir. Okay. So, we get inside. There's two of them. sitting in front of that desk right. there. Oh, [ __ ] He's telling me to sit. down. So I sit down. Other one comes in.

Stand up. I'm like, well, I was told. Can you follow orders or not? Yeah. Is this a trick? Is this a Is this. a I don't That is Simon says that a. little bit. So I can't be right. I stay. down. I'm like, nope. I'm listening to. this guy. So this guy says, "Stand up.". And I don't even I don't even budge. And. then the guy goes, "Stand up. And I go, "Okay." And I stand up and. they go, "You stand up. You say, "I. sir." You sit down. You say, "I sir, do.

you understand?" "I sir." Yell. I sir. I. sir, sit down. I sir, stand up. I sir, sit down. I sir, do you understand? Don't stand up. It was And you know, if. you would have stood up originally, he. would have said, "I told you only to. listen to me." Bingo. Yeah. Yeah. I was. in the middle of it. I mean, there was. certainly something. It's just mental. all over the place. When I say ears like elongated, you say. open sir. Do you understand? Say I sir.

I sir. Say it louder. I sir is. It's. like are you saying yes? You probably. got different accents too. Oh. And then. they all lose their voice, you know. So. they all have like a like a coach's. voice probably. Yeah. Like very much. But it's loud and it's very I mean it is. they are co That's exactly what it is. By the way, I realized quickly that all. um disciplinary coaches are just trying. to be what's happening there. Like that. is how they are. You know, one person.

bobbles bringing the pants out to the. line. Oh, guess what we're all doing. again? All of them back. You know what I. mean? Like all you need is just one. person. Oh, buddy's arms aren't. straight, so now everybody has to go. back. Oh, buddy's left leg was not out. of tension, so now everybody has to go. back. You know, it's like, oh, this is. what football coaches are like, it was. very obvious. Like, but that that that. one's like low one. Yeah, the low. They. don't let anything slip. That's the. thing. Yeah. They don't let anything. slip. Like, you can't can't give up an.

inch. Heels. Heels. Heels. Heels. The. good coaches. Little things. Hey, little. things. But for us, it's like we lose. the game. For them, it's [ __ ] life. and death. Yeah. Yep. Did you feel like you were in like a. scared straight episode? Uh, they have. that actually. Yeah, I did. And I could We talked about. this earlier. Like I don't know if they still do that. or not with like you either go to jail. or juvie or you go to boot camp, but. like that should be something that.

should still be cuz I feel like that can. really I think it straightens you. I. think you're not you're forced to. scared. Holy [ __ ] I watch and either. stay in and take it or go to jail. Like. that's the thing, too. Like you got to. make a choice. Yeah. But then at the end. of it, we got I saw the end of it. I saw. the end of it and it was like all of. them, we were in this. It was it was. like a really cool thing to kind of see. the first day pickup which I. saw I forget which group it.

was D whatever that saw their first day. and then I saw the graduates and then I. saw in between it's like you can see it. like kind of happening through the. meticulous accountability on everything. and then by the last day they're all I. mean everybody uniform the exact same. walk, talk, breathe, talk like the way. they I think even I think even their. mannerisms are all the exact same and.

it's like that's what they're creating. Yeah. Build them in machines. We make. Marines. It was an honor to watch. Thank. you to all of them for the hospitality. And thank you to the Marines for being a. Marines still. And thank you. to Sergeant that was yelling at me. Uh I. didn't get a chance to meet him. afterward. the kind of he did not he. viewed me as a recruit. Is he on his. tippy toes? Uh I think he's leaning. over. He's leaning over. Good forward lean.

right there. He's telling me to say I. sir louder, you know, cuz I didn't say I. sir loud enough. Did they ever bump you with the brim of. their hat? Like get real close to you. and start bumping your head? So the the. they used to actually have uh swagger. sticks, I believe is what they were. called back in the day, which drill. instructors had, which is like I guess a. ruler that nuns used to have at Catholic. schools. Mhm. Yeah. Like I guess that. used to be not anymore. Not anymore. No, there's no It's all That's one of the.

things that verbal. What's that? That's. one of the things that didn't make it. Yeah. I guess I guess those are getting. pretty uh they're abusing them a bit. I. guess those are I mean just like the. nuns. Just like the nuns started, you. know, cracking hands a little bit, I. assume, at a time. There's a little bit. of that. But it was, I mean, the drill. instructors might be the baddest. [ __ ] I've ever seen. Just all. from 4:00. a.m. all the way I'm sorry, 3:30 a.m. cuz they were even doing pre-shit for.

those who were on firewatch, which. terrible. I don't know how they got. picked. Three people that were in the. Charlie uh company there. three people. that were 11 days into it and they were. forced to watch, you know, a lookout and. it's like they roll right into that. The. lights, lights, lights like they've been. up for the last. Oh, buddy. But we appreciate them. Yes, we do. Oh, yeah. And I'm thankful it. exists. All right, we'll be back. tomorrow. Be a friend. Tell a friend. something nice. It might change your. life. We're in this thing together. Team. on me. Team on three. 1 2 3. Goodbye.