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huge contracts handed out in the NFL. Congrats to everybody getting paid. >> The WNBA Allstar weekend happened here. in Indianapolis. They're calling it in. Diami. >> Oo, >> they're saying it was Miami in. Indianapolis. I'll tell you what, I saw. a lot of videos. Looks like everybody's. having a great time. >> Looks like everybody's having a blast. Now, there's a big statement coming out. of the WNBA obviously with them saying, "Pay us what you owe us shirts." There's. different takes uh on all different. sides. We sent an invite to uh Kathy. Angleberg, the commissioner of the WNBA, to come on on this particular day.

Obviously, schedule is crazy. look for. us to chitchat with her here in a while. because I am trying to figure it all. out. I am trying to figure it all out. >> because whenever we found out what the. WNBA pays their players uh through. Caitlyn Clark, she she's making like 70. grand or something. They're charging. 70,000 bucks for a suite at some of. these games that Caitlyn Clark is. playing in. Now, I know that the. league's been around for 20 years. I. know that it's lost money for a very. very long time here. I know they're. saying like $40 million in losses. potential. Now, $200 million in revenue. as a total $40 million in losses. Just.

quick, you know, business everybody. understands is P&L, you know, profits. and losses. $200 million in revenue. That's your gross. Then your net revenue. is what you're making out of that, right? Every business has expenses, every business has costs. For the WNBA, it's a lot. Obviously, you got like 140. players or something like that, depending upon the at the time, how many. are hired, how many are employed, the. buildings, everything else like that. They are then from that $200 million uh. gross revenue allegedly back here at 40. million in the red as a loss. Allegedly. We don't know what's real and what isn't. real. Uh but allegedly everybody has. said they've never turned a profit. So.

the immediate reaction is whenever you. say pay us what you owe us, it's like. you're not making any money. So what do. we owe? You owe us money. This is. actually one of those things. But. if we're already losing 40 million, could you not just bump them up to at. least six fig like $70,000 as a paycheck. is a very that's an embarrassment. >> Yeah. >> Especially for like Caitlyn Clark or all. these people as a professional sports. Now, with that being said, my dad, his. job, if he would have got paid $70,000 a. year growing up, would have been. incredibly pumped about that. But with. how long the WNBA has been around, to.

say the $40 million loss is the reason. why you can't give them money, that. should be pretty easy to make happen is. just what? Because if you if you just. add 30 grand to each one of them, get. that up over 100,000 bucks, it's another. like 4.6 million. So, you're four 44.6. million in this way. There has to be. four million you could find somewhere in. here that you can give up to give the. players at least a little bit more money. because I don't think the $70,000 thing. is right. But I think that negotiation. is going to be tough. >> I think it's going to be a very tough. negotiation. Now, it seems like the. players though allin on their side of. it. And then if you listen to everybody.

else talk, it's like, hey, business, this is how business works. You know, you make money, you get money. That's. kind of how it goes. But it's like if. you're operating at a $40 million loss. off of 200, there's a lot of things. going wrong there. We could sneak in an. extra 30 grand per player for it to get. up to $100,000. Hopefully that'll be a. conversation. Hopefully there'll be. incentive base for it to go forward. But. that was the big story out of the. weekend. I don't love that. That's a big. story out of the weekend cuz I thought. it was a great weekend here in. Indianapolis. Every city, every place. downtown was rented out. There was. massive events everywhere. Nike took. over an entire basic block.

>> of Indianapolis and built it up. It was. awesome. And we had a uh a great weekend. here even though, you know, collective. bargaining is going to be the. conversation going forward. And there's. no reason uh for anybody. Hey, anybody, especially after the Stud Buds basically. brought the whole world together. >> That's right. Shout out to the Stud. Buds. They were just streaming their. entire time here in Indianapolis. You're. welcome back anytime you want. They're. getting after it, too. >> Oh, yeah. >> I mean, they were having a good. >> Stud Buds were a great time. >> Studs football. >> That is Stud Buds football. That is kind. of what we realized this weekend. So, shout out to the WNBA coming through our.

city. We hope you enjoyed it. And shout. out to Scotty Sheffller. >> Scotty Sheffller. uh as I was, you know, watching what he was doing yesterday, you know, with my daughter running. around, so you catch it back. It's great. backdrop. Great, great. A little earlier. in the day, you know, cuz they're in. Ireland, so obviously they're 6 hours, 7. hours ahead. So in the morning, you get. a chance to watch it as opposed to just. the afternoon. So there's some pros and. some cons. Long day afterwards with. nothing afterwards, you know. So that is. uh certainly a give and take that we had. there. But watching this dude, it's. like, what words do you use to describe.

him? I guess inevitable. I guess that is. a word that you could describe him as. going into any tournament. It's just. like Scotty Sheffer is probably going to. win this thing. I even put out a tweet. that's like every 3 weeks I get a chance. to see his family. Little Bennett, this. boy's growing so quick. >> Last time I seen this guy, you know, was. at his previous win was just a few weeks. ago and then previous wins, a couple. weeks before that. We're keeping up with. them every couple weeks here. It's like. I'm following him on Facebook. It's like. I uh I'm catching up with their family. portraits basically as they're going. Beautiful family, happy family. Little. boy almost getting up that hill to get. to the green. Fantastic. But all in all,

the only word you can really say about. Scotty Sheffller is obviously. It's. like, hey, he has a four- stroke lead. He's going to go right for it. There's. going to be a lot of uh danger in. between. It doesn't have to do it. He. could play safe. Well, he's gonna And. then he's going to get it to six feet. Actually, obviously, that is what Scotty. Sheffller is going to do. Hey, for the. 10th consecutive time, he he's had a. lead going into uh Sunday. Four strokes. or more. And now this is the first hole. Is he going to be nervous? He's going to. come out a little gunshy. Uh-uh. He's. going to go ahead and put it to tap in. length on the first hole. Let the rest. of the field know like, hey, this Sunday.

is exactly how every other day is going. to go. Then we go. Obviously, what a stroke. Middle of the fairway. What's that mean? Oh, he mashed his. drive to a perfect location. Hangs that. thing up high right. What's the uh. what's the topography going to do for. you? Oh, it's going to put it right next. to the hole. It's like anytime he needs. a shot, he shows up and does it. And I I. hate to like kind of harp on this. because it does feel like it steals the. chatter a little bit. People are like, "Scotty's not entertaining enough to be.

a top man, a leading man. Does he have. the personality of the guys in the past? You know, Tiger, we had the red shirt on. Sunday. We had the fist bump. We had the. intensity. We had the entire thing. What. do we have with Scotty? What do we have. with Scotty? He's just like, >> every shot's a good one somehow. Yeah. >> Every single shot somehow is being. great. And he's starting to show a. little bit more emotion. He's starting. to introduce himself to the world a. little bit more. He's given some deep. perspective takes about life and golf. and his deal as a professional athlete. and how he views it over the last few. days. And I want to let Scotty Sheffler. know, we love you, buddy. You're great. for sports. and people watching you do.

your thing at the highest level in the. biggest moments with the most amount of. pressure and you not cracking at all. You staring down the biggest moment and. the hardest moment because in golf if. you're off by that much I mean it's. over. He could still score a nine on a. hole. Yeah, >> there is still a chance that that could. happen on any swing. He said can't wait. to get to Memphis. Now everybody's even. par yet again. Here he is on 12 for. birdie. You know 11 was a tough hole. Everybody's talking about 12. You bounce. back, get a birdie here, no problem. How. you doing? Keep it moving. And then he. wraps it up on 18 with like a three-foot.

tap in as the guy that he's playing. alongside basically said he was a joy to. play with. >> The guy's happy. He doesn't seemingly. have any like bad traits about him at. all. The way he views life is. spectacular. I think there's a chance he. might start smoking a little weed. >> Sure. >> Which I'm obviously I am a huge. proponent of. If not, he's been at the. top of the mountain long enough now he's. been able to look around and be like, "Hey, all I wanted to do was get here. This is all I wanted to do is become the. best I could possibly become. Be the. best in the world. Get to the top of. this mountain. He gets to the top of the.

mountain. He looks around. This is it. This is what I committed my entire life. to. He he told he gave an answer. yesterday afterwards. It was like when I. was like four or five years old, I used. to wear pants to golf course cuz I saw. professional golfers do it. All I've. ever wanted to do is become a. professional golfer. My entire life. I've tried to become a professional. golfer. And then you get here and you. realize that the only good time is right. after you win. And then it's like a two. to three minute feeling. And then it's. like, okay, got to get home back to. America. Got to get to my family. Got. Memphis on Tuesday. Everybody's even.

part. This is kind of the same notion. that everybody that gets to the top of. their perspect respective fields kind of. starts to feel. It's either you win is a. relief and a loss is total devastation. He's at that point now in a sport that. it's not supposed to have that type of. expectations where if he's in a. tournament, he's supposed to win it. And. if he doesn't win it, it's like, what? What happened? And if he does win it, it's like, well, are you supposed to win. it? Let's see what happens next. I hope. there's a chance for Scotty to continue. to be able to play as well as he's. playing while viewing the world this. way. And I hope he continues to balance.

life and golf at the same time because I. think he's doing it better than any. meastar has ever done it. Any phenom has. ever done it. And then you listen to. Jordan Speed talk about him afterwards. Didn't kind of could have been. sh. >> kind of felt like a shot. Kind of felt. like a shot about how he he does things. differently than all of us and he. doesn't do as many corporate events. He's not chasing money. He's not chasing. any of this. He just wants to play golf. and be with his family and he's able to. turn it off when he goes home and he. said he was going home with him and he. wasn't able to. It's like Scotty. Sheffller might be the most relatable,

normal, >> awesome dog. Yeah. >> In the history of sport. He is a dog. To. get this good, you have to have a. maniacal work ethic. You have to be. dialed in. You have to know every little. thing about your swing, the golf ball, the golf course, and everything else. that's happening around you. To do that, the amount of work you have to put in is. absurd. So, we'd like to say to Scotty, we appreciate the hell out of your. commitment to your sport. We appreciate. the hell out of your commitment to you. and uh us watching your baby boy grow up. into inevitably becoming a champion, which we assume will happen in anything.

Doesn't matter what he does, if it is. golf or something else. We can't wait to. follow along and thank you for what. you're doing for sports cuz when your. name's on a leaderboard or when you're. in a tournament, it is mustwatch because. there's a chance that he goes seven. straight holes and hits the best shot. you could possibly hit on every single. shot. Let's go to one half of the. hammer. D Cowboys AP tone. He's. untouchable right now. And the only. person that you can compare him to is. Tiger Woods and he and Tiger polar. opposite human beings. Both wear the. check mark though. >> Yeah, they do. The only person like the.

the current run that he's on is is. Tigerike and I hope he continues to do. it, you know, like Kepka, Spory, they. had all they had runs similar to this, but the difference between that and. Tiger was the Tiger just did it forever. Um, but you talk about being on the. leaderboard and being in the tournament. He has put the PJ tour on his back. He's. got 11 straight top 10s and 30 of the. last 36 that's the last two years he's. been top 10 if he's in the 30 of 36 he's. been finished in the top 10. So like if. he if Scotty's playing in a tournament. he's going to be in the top 10. He's. going to be there and everyone's going.

to tune in to watch Scotty. He's. literally putting tour on his back. >> And if we know anything from uh Swing to. Survive. >> Yep. Correct. >> Yep. >> Full Swing. >> Drive to Full Swing on Netflix. Their. schedules are horrendous. >> Oh yeah. >> Cuz he's back in Memphis Tuesday or. Wednesday. So he was just obviously in. Northern Ireland. Has to fly back to. Dallas, Texas. Then he's in Memphis. That's on Tuesday, Wednesdayish. He has. to go in there, get the course, get a. practice round, prom. I assume he's not. doing those ProAm anymore. Who knows? I. hope not. >> I hope he isn't either. Guy's making top.

10. He's in every single weekend. He's. doing this entire thing. But it's like. him being able to balance being a human. while they're. >> their touring schedule is insane over. there. Not a lot of time down, not a lot. of time with family. The fact that he's. been able to balance it all and figure. it all out, I'm proud of him. I'm pumped. for him. Let's go to the talks table at. boss Connor at Tai Schmidt. Con man, your thoughts on old Scotty Sheffller. carrying golf right now for all of us. And even I think the Liv guys and the. PGA guys, they're all saying that's the. [ __ ] right there. And uh that's. a good place to be if you're him.

>> Yeah. And thank God we got him. Like I. feel like without Scotty, it is a much. different tournament. Obviously, it's a. major no matter what you're going to. tune in. But I think that was my biggest. takeaway is that when it is a major, you. want, you know, 18th hole coming down to. the finish. You know, everybody's tied. and and you're damn near going to go to. a playoff. But when it comes to Scotty, when it is like that and you're just. watching Scotty Sheffler golf, cuz. that's all it was. You weren't watching. for, you know, competition. You weren't. watching to see who's going to win. You. know, Scotty's going to win. You're.

watching Sunday just to see what he. does. And he delivers. That's why I I. think I have grown to love Scotty so. much is because it's not like a hey walk. in the park. You mentioned it, the first. hole. He's going he's basically going. for the hole. He's going for a damn. albatross and he doesn't need to. I. think that's why it is so entertaining. and it is great to have a dominant. golfer because even when all those guys. were going, you know, Brooks was making. his run and everything, there wasn't. like the clear-cut number one. Tony just. said it in the last two years he's been.

top 10 in 30 events. like he is by far. the greatest goal. He's head and. shoulders above whoever you want to put. at number two and I think that's why it. has been so entertaining to watch some. of these matches cuz you know he's just. balling out. Yeah, I enjoy watching him. golf and and what can't be lost in all. this debut nine NFL vet is the amount of. work that has to go in to get to this. point, you know, because he's just so. hoham all the time, you know, it's just. like I just hit it 350.

I just put it to two feet on a Sunday at. the open. Uh a major that I have never. won before. Well, I just made a huge. putt. He made I I forget what his putts. were. He has the best day he's ever had. putting. I think I think he's figured. out the putting cuz the putting was kind. of the question mark here. How good was. uh Scotty's putting? Says Jamie Kennedy. Great account. Pulled up some great. stats. He finished a week 59 of 63. putting inside 10 feet. Okay, so those. are the ones that are first of all, they. piss you off. >> Yeah, the knee knockers. >> Yeah, the knee knockers are the ones. that piss you off, but also if you're. able to make those, you can gain a lot.

of strokes. Scotty Sheffller used to. miss every once in a while uh at this at. distance and everybody was like, his. only weakness is his putter. His only. weakness is putter. It's like the guy's. won three majors. I I don't know if his. putter is that weak. I understand it's. not as good as his irons or his driver, but he went to work on his putter. Very. clear. Very evident. >> Changed his grip. Yeah. Changed his grip. and went to the claw grip and it's been. it's been different since. And you. talked about everything, man. How his. peers speak about him. I think the. Shambo he spoke about him after. I think. they're both like Dallas area kids. He. was like, "Look, I used to play against.

Scotty all the time. He was never that. good." You talked about the work ethic. Like he was bogey free up until that. part put. That was when he showed like. the biggest, you know, emotion. He had. the big fist pump. He had a double bogey. a little bit later, but that kind of. shows you even though I'm head and. shoulders above the the field. I'm going. to win this tournament. I care about my. next shot, my next stroke. He's just do. It's not like he's uh perfectly. fundamentally sound. He's not like a. Adam Scott or like a Rory like you look. at that. Okay, this is the perfect. swing. His feet are always different. His finishes with his hands. So, a guy.

that like me who's kind of, you know, fairly new into golf and watching him do. it and watching him do it his way and. still be kind of like just himself, it's. almost like watching Barry Sanders. Like. Barry Sanders, he was dominant. He did. freaky [ __ ] on the field every Sunday, but he was just he wasn't like speed. He. wasn't doing all the other things. And. obviously, this is an individual sport, so he can win unlike Barry on those old. Lions who had to struggle with some. tough teams. But it's been special. watching Scotty, man. It's unbelievable. >> Yeah, it's a good comparison there,

Barry Sanders. I I really I never. thought of that as you're saying it. >> because you know Barry's with. >> Where's Barry Sanders from? >> Kansas. >> What What's that? >> Whereabouts? >> Uh Wah. >> Oh, I'm not going to lie. The first It's. tough. >> You're really trying to put some soft. on. >> Yeah, it's tough. >> Wait. Yeah, like a little Spanish. The I. The first I. >> hard second I pronounce that thing as an. E accent. >> Yeah, Wita. Kansas is not a bad spot.

But yeah, obviously uh Barry Sanders. obvious handed the ball back to the. official after a touchdown. People still. were told that to this day. It's like. watching Scotty Shuffler. Will he be. like this for 20 years? Possibly. And. you talked about his swing being new to. golf. Everything they tell you you're. not supposed to do. Hey, those feet need. to remain the same. Those feet need to. stay there. Somehow Scotty's been able. to dance. Obviously not in his irons, but in the driver uh in the T- box, >> he does the hokey that some [ __ ]. Right foot in, left foot in, both feet.

out, >> bombs, >> jumping. >> So, it's like obviously you got to find. your spin. >> Every time you see that target, >> boom, the the triangle, the little. triangle. Hey, this where you need to. aim. It's like they were golfing in. Pittsburgh. Third tree over this where. you need to hit it. And then all of a. sudden, Scotty's balls just and then, oh. wait, is it going to come back? Of. course it is. Like a magnet. The guy's. unbelievable. All right. Congrats to. Scotty. Also, congrats to all the NFL. teams that are currently showing up at. training camp. Tom, we don't have time. to break it all down. How many teams are. currently uh already checked into camp?

>> So, the uh Chargers and Lions already in. camp. They're playing in the Hall of. Fame game. They've been there. And then. today, the Chiefs and Cowboys report. 22. teams report tomorrow. And then two more. report uh on Wednesday. Steelers being. one of those. >> Okay. So, I think it's 26 tomorrow. >> Oh, sorry. Sorry. 26. >> Yeah. 26 tomorrow, two today, two. yesterday, or whenever the lines of. Chargers reported, and then two on. Wednesday. Joining us now, ladies and. gentlemen, live from a golf course, I do. believe. A Michigan man, senior NFL. insider for ESPN, Adam Shfter. >> Chef D, how's it going over there? You. guys hitting like Sher.

>> Yeah, like I'm Adam Sheffler today. And. I will say you were talking about Scotty. Shuffler before. Pat, you know Jimmy. Ston, the superpower agent who. represents half the coaches in college. football. Correct. >> Yes, sir. >> Yeah. Do you know who Jimmy Ston's son. Parker's college roommate was? >> Of course. Is it Scotty? I guess it. would be Scotty there. >> Scotty at Texas. And I like to tease. Jimmy all the time that you could. represent you could represent all these.

college coaches. You can represent some. of the biggest players in the NFL. But. you had the greatest money-making. prospect within your grasp as you were. grooming through Texas. He was sleeping. at your house and you didn't even get. him as a client. That's a big whip. >> Hey, Jimmy Sexon rarely misses. Jimmy. Sexon an absolute beast a weapon. The. fact that obviously that make. everybody's connect. It feels like let's. speak. Let's talk about that. Shout out. to Jimmy Saxon and his boy uh and and. Scott Chef. How was that networking.

event up there? Just billionaires. walking around everywhere at that. Michigan golf outing that you're. currently at. Um, this is an a. fundraiser for Michigan and so we've got. the Michigan football program today and. it was very nice because it was very. opportunity. The last time I believe I. spoke to you, I was at Oakmont playing. with Wink Martindale and when I got home. from Oakmont after my flight was. cancelled and I had to drive 7 and 1. half hours from Pittsburgh to New York. After I got home and went to go play. golf that week, I realized that my. fivewood wasn't in the bag. They left it.

behind. It turned out it was in Wink's. bag, but Wink left his clubs in. Baltimore, went to Florida for 3 weeks. So, Wink conveniently returned my. fivewood to me today. And the fivewood. has been glorious so far. Pat, >> that's amazing. I assume you hit that. fivewood. What? 155, 160. >> Oh, maybe you're giving me credit that I. don't deserve. Maybe 125, 175. >> I'm joking. I'm joking. Happy you're. joining us. Thank you for joining us. Tell your partners there. We apologize. for the interruption. Let's talk a. little NFL news, shall we? Uh TJ Watt.

gets his deal done. 41 million per three. years, 123, 108 fully guaranteed. Uh. every insider, every Pittsburgh person. was like, "This deal is getting done. This is a no-brainer." He held out of. mandatory mini camp. I thought that was. a big deal. I thought to myself, maybe. this is uglier than we thought. beforehand. How did this deal end up. getting done? and uh 3 years 123. Was. this the number it was always going to. be for TJ? >> Well, I think the issue really when they.

were sitting down and talking was. length. I think the Steelers would have. preferred a shorter term deal and TJ. Watt would have wanted a longer term. deal and they always were going to. resign him as we talked about. The fact. of the matter was I think it's very. convenient for a lot of these guys to. take a stand in that mandatory mini camp. going in whether it was TJ Watt or Trey. Hendrickson or Terry McLaren or some of. the players who didn't show up and. incurred over $17,000. of fines that is collected and mandated.

by the collective bargaining agreement. you you basically say, "Okay, I'm going. to make a $107,000. statement to my team that I'm not happy. with where the talks are at." And as you. go into the summer, if you're getting. the deal that TJ Watt gets done. eventually, what is $107,000? Even at. the end, the agent can say, "Hey, I need. you going to throw in $107,000 more to. cover the fines." And it was pretty. incredible cuz TJ Watt has $108 sacks in. his career and the guaranteed money was.

$108 million. I asked is that was that. coincidental? Did we know? They didn't. even realize it. So that was by. >> So you actually presented that piece of. information. So this is good. Did you. guys do this on purpose? 108 sacks. 108. million guaranteed. That's cute. >> And and and they didn't realize it until. it was raised that that was exactly how. it matched up his career sacks and the. guaranteed money. But what's $107,000 on. 108 million guaranteed? You're not. talking about anything. And that's why. TGI can make that statement even though.

they were just really far apart. disagreeing on the length of the. contract. So I think he would have. wanted four years. I think they would. have liked two years. They compromised. met three. And there's the deal right. there for 123 million with 108. guaranteed. >> That's a sick graphic out of Debbone. Payday for TJ was sitting right there. But I I do appreciate payday for. >> Yikes. >> Yeah. You know, you know, you know what. else is very interesting about this to. me is that to me was probably the last. big move in a Steelers off season that.

was probably unlike any Steelers off. season in recent memory. You think about. all the moves that they made. This is. usually a conservative franchise, laidback, relaxed, not very aggressive. And here's an off season where they go. and they trade for DK Metaf. They sign. Aaron Rogers. They trade for Jaylen. Ramsay. They trade for John Smith. They. trade away Ma Fitzpatrick. And then they. sign TJ Watt to the richest deal that's. a non-quarterback deal in NFL history. And it gets I mean that would I said it.

before. These are not your father. Steelers and they did not operate that. way. And I think they're tired of losing. six straight playoff games and are being. very aggressive to try to do something. to snap that streak and make sure that. it doesn't repeat itself. >> Well, yeah. My father knows that Bill. Car could have built the boys up no. matter what the roster was. You know, that is that is what Bill C. But my. father and my father's friends would. say, "Yeah, it's about time we try to. win some [ __ ] games." Like I think.

that all of Pittsburgh is pumped about. this. But expectations now are only one. thing. Here we go. Steelers, here we go. Super Bowl. There they go. Good luck, boys. Congrats to Khan, too. Getting all. those deals done. We are very proud of. him. Speaking about another deal, especially for a pass rusher, George. Carlis gets his deal done. Congratulations to him. Obviously, the. Chiefs have been making moves. Quarterback tacklers have gotten paid.

Obviously, in this world that we're in, disrupting the quarterback is a massive. ordeal. A lot of people are saying you. need four number one overall type picks. on the Dline. Dline seemingly becoming a. place of interest for all teams. Not. that it hasn't been in the past, but a. lot more money going there. Carl Lafess. is a beast. Seven sacks in the last two. postseasons, which is all seven games, most in the NFL. 23 pressures, seven. games, most in the NFL. 15 quarterbacks. hit seven games, most in the NFL. So, this guy, whenever the lights are the.

brightest shows up, he gets paid. Now, let's move to another quarterback. tackler that is obviously sitting on. deck. Go ahead, Debb. >> Yeah, we got elite pass rusher out in. Dallas, Micah Parson set to play on his. fifth year option. I believe it's around. 24 million with these new deals getting. done. Miles Garrett now TJ getting his. done. What's the latest with Micah? >> The Cowboys are slow playing it again. surprise, surprise. And they had not. been in any rush. Now, Mike is going to. go to camp and Mike is going to be there. and Mike is going to do what Micah does.

But I could tell you that going into. camp, the two sides were not very close. to a deal, and I don't think the Dallas. Cowboys have been overly aggressive. about getting a deal done. There have. not been very many conversations, and I. still think that everybody believes that. at some point this deal is going to get. done. But if we go back to last off. season as a road map, CD Lamb got done, I believe, late in August. Dak Prescott. got done on the opening day of the NFL. season and we'll see when they can get.

something done with CD Lamb with uh. Micah Parsons who they want to get done. obviously, but it doesn't sound like. it's on a fast track right now. Now, that can change and I do think that when. they get a deal done with him, it's. going to make him the richest defensive. player in NFL history. It'll be the. richest non-quarterback deal in NFL. history, but again, not close right now. And we'll see if they could find a way. to get there this summer as they have in. the past with some of their other. premier players. >> Bullet, that's a 10,000% waiting on TJ.

No questions asked. But waiting on TJ, wait on TJ. >> Yeah, but but but that's fine. But but. the Cowboys have not exactly been. pushing the envelope either, Pat. They've been very slow about this. >> I I respect Jerry Jones and his business. acumen. I do personally. I love it. Ever. since I watched him on that Joe Buck. interview show where he said uh he said. something along the lines of uh there's. people that are 230 yards out from the. green a five. It's going to be their. second shot and there's a little bit of. water and they lay it up and then they.

try to get a birdie. He said I'm. standing over that ball and I'm going. for the green every [ __ ] time. And. then he talked about how he went all in. for the Dallas Cowboys. And he talked. about how he always goes all in for all. of his businesses. And then you watch. him lead the most valuable franchise in. the world. Basically, you think to. yourself, "Wow, this guy great. businessman." Then you watch the way. some of his contracts get handled. It's. like, J, if you were to get these done a. little bit earlier, this wouldn't be as. big. CD obviously massive. Dak Prescott, he was like two years late on that deal. for it to be as big as it was. He always.

gets it done, always takes care of his. guys, but it always comes at some sort. of significant cost. Which led to one of. my favorite quotes I've ever heard, which he said, "Anything I've ever loved. or has become very good for me, people. have told me I've overpaid for." It's. like, "Got an excuse for it. I love it.". But we all just know Mike's deal is. going to get done. Even if he gets hurt, even if he doesn't play well, we all. assume the deal is going to get done. And now it's just like when I guess. when, maybe it's after a Cowboys loss. happens. >> Cowboys loss happens like week six. What. happens? Boom. Congratulations. Michael.

Parsons just signed for $42 million a. year on a four-year deal. It's like we. all know it's going to happen, Jar. We. all know it's going to happen. You might. as well just get it done. >> Like a Chris Jones situation with the. Chiefs where they open up uh week one to. get up. >> He's up in the suite. Chiefs end up. losing to the Lions. David Montgomery. runs all over him and then what next the. week after or two weeks after that, Chris Jones gets paid $90 million. >> Yeah, it's going to happen. And the. market's been set. Miles, TJ, Mike is.

going to expect the same exact thing. Mulligette is going to do it. Okay, we. know we're taking up your time. Let's. continue to roll around the NFL. Quickly, Tone has a question. Speaking. of the Lions, >> yeah, Shifty, it feels like, you know, new year, same situation potentially for. the Lions. Levi Ozarque uh comes shows. up for camp and then, you know, had they. we get reported that he's out for the. season with an ACL. Dan Campbell. actually uh had this to say. >> All right, let me start with Levi. Levi is out for the year. All right. Le. Levi's surgery was um.

you know it was um it was significant uh. but it needed to be done you know out of. his control and it needed to be done and. uh so he will miss the season. >> So uh Shifty we were talking about like. the wording there from the MCDC was like. a little weird. Did he show up with an. ACL injury? Did it happen in the first. day of practice? What happened there for. the Lions? I I I look, he's missed parts. of the last three seasons with injuries. He had the injury last year, and from.

the sounds of that, without knowing, it. sounds like they went in there and the. damage was greater than they. anticipated, and he's going to miss. extensive time. I don't know whether. there was more damage than just the ACL. or what the situation was, but obviously. it was a significant injury that's not. going to allow him to play this season. It's the third straight year that he's. missing time. You just hate to hear it. You could see how emotional Dan Campbell. was about that and he's been a great. player when he could stay healthy and. that's what's frustrating and. disappointing because you want somebody.

like that out there and now they have. another setback. I don't know whether he. aggravated or just so extensive the. first time he did it that when they did. the surgery it was more than they. thought. >> Okay. So he said it was out of his. control. Was there a previous surgery. that was maybe not completed? Like why. would the out of his control line. happen? I don't I don't. >> Well, I think sometimes they I'm. guessing I'd have to make another call, but I think they go in there and. sometimes the damage is just greater. than you'd ever imagine. It was It's. more significant and that looks like it.

was the case here. Um but I can't answer. that definitively cuz I do not know. that. >> Okay. Well, we would like to let Cuz. know, God speed, brother. Sorry this. happened. And for the Lions, that's only. one thing that's kind of happening. Go. ahead, Tom. >> Yeah, we have a list of things for the. Lions here. Obviously, Ailen McNeel is. out until November with an ACL injury. from last year. Aiden Hutchkins. returning back from his leg surgery. Malcolm Rodriguez tore his ASAL on. Thanksgiving. Frank Ragnau retired. Zitler goes in free agency. And then. both coordinators are gone. It's a list.

of things the Lions have. You're up there at that Michigan. I love. golf out. >> Aside from both the coordinators, they. lost eight assistant coaches in all. eight. >> So that is a coaching staff that got. raided. >> Oh my god. My god. >> We're not going to panic. Okay. We still. have MCDC and Jared G. You're up there at that Michigan golf. outing. Probably a lot of Lions fans. around there. How's the temperature on. the Lions this year? The NFC North has. not gotten worse. >> No, it certainly has. >> No, it's it it could be as tough a. division as there is in football. It's.

going to be loaded. Every team's going. to be tough. Uh. >> I still think the Lions have a really. good team there. A lot of people believe. that they're just going to continue on. Johnny Morton's going to take over on. the offensive side and do great things. Kelvin Shepard on the defense side are. going to do great things. There's no. there's there's no way that you could. lose that amount of coaching brain power. and think it's not going to impact you. >> Agree. Plus, with all those players that. are already injured last year, that was. kind of their problem. But I have faith. in MCDC to get boys and I have faith in. Shep.

>> Hell. I mean, look, the Eagle Eagles did. it. >> Yeah. It took them a year took a little. bit coordinators every year. >> Took them a little bit and they have a. top 10 quarterback just like Detroit. does. >> H. >> we're not going to get into that. number. one. >> Not going to get into that. I enjoy I. enjoy people going crazy. Hey, uh before. we ask you another question, are you. going to golf? What what's going Are you. guys in the middle of your round or. what's going on? >> Yeah, >> they just played a hole without me cuz. it's a best. Did we party that or was we. parked? >> Yeah. Yeah. They just informed me that.

we par because I didn't get the puck. >> Come on. >> Okay. So, um is Eisenberg a player or. No. >> Yeah, he's good, but he's been gone for. three weeks. He's been, you know, touring the world. My friend Steven. Eisenberg has. And so he's blaming it on. being, you know, out of the country. Comes back. He shot an 81 at Oakmont. 41. on the front nine. 41. And he come He. hasn't hit a shot yet today. >> Was he at Bezos's wedding? Was he over. there at Bezos's wedding? Is there. >> Were you Were you at Jeff Bezos's.

wedding? Is that where you were? >> No. No. >> Eisenberg could be though. We just. looked him up. He's the president of Ken. Wall Steel Corp and Dearborn Mission. Okay. Steve, good to see you. Good to see you, Steve. You're great. Hey, guys. Just. stick when he wants to be stick when he. wants to be a coplay. >> All right. Hey, hey, stay away from. concerts just in general, pal. All. right. Uh, >> hey Pat, I'll also say this being that. we started on agent work and we're going. to end on agent work here. All I know is.

that I flew in. I was supposed to do a. post roundt. with Desmond Howard and Kirk Herd Street. talking all about Michigan football. because Herby's son goes to Michigan. Herby's come over to the right side. It's great to see he's now a Michigan. fan. We love to see him being part of. the Michigan family. I was going to do. this thing. I showed up today because I. was told Desmond Howard's here, Kirk. Herb Street's here, and I'm going to be. doing this discussion with them, the. three of us. I get here and Kirk Herb. Street is not here. Oh,

>> he's shooting a dog food commercial. Now, last I checked, I've got four dogs. I think Herby's got one or two. I've got. more dogs. So, whoever is representing. me is doing a poor job that I'm not. included in a dog food commercial with. Kirk Herb Street in an event that I came. to where he was supposed to be here that. he blew me off. That that that's not. right. >> Who would have thought? [ __ ] Yeah, Kunan. Come on, buddy. [ __ ] get to the. bottom of it. We need at least some pet.

food for this guy. He's got four dogs. Kirk has four or five dogs as well. >> Kirk has a lot of He has a fleet. He is. a fleet of these dogs. >> Famous dog in the country. >> Yeah. And Peter is also one of them. Maybe you need to do a little Peterizing. of one of your dogs cuz Peter dog. >> I got to start I got to start taking my. dogs to Sunday Countdown. The oldest one. is 19 and is blind and she can't hear. and she goes to the bathroom everywhere. So I don't have. mind. I don't Yeah, I don't think Greeny. will mind when Ellen will go to the.

bathroom all over the studio on Sunday. >> No, I don't think so. Yeah, Green is. fine with it. It's not going to be on. his red bottoms. Hey, um, >> real quick, didn't PFT had his dog. breaking news, right? >> Yeah. >> BFD had his dog rest in peace. I think. breaking news for a while. >> Leroy. Yeah, Leroy. I think Leroy rest. in peace. I believe you. >> Leroy was a real newsound. >> Yes. >> Yes, he was. I agree that was the case. You should think about maybe one of your. dogs becoming an insider. Then you get. to Pete because Peter's a part of game. day. >> Yeah, >> Peter is a part of college game day.

formerly. >> He's just wherever he. >> he's he's a part of you need your dog to. start breaking some news. Then you now. we start getting uh the pet food the dog. food. >> Maybe not though. >> Maybe the fresh pets. Yeah, the. 19-year-old's going to be a tough cell. But hey, maybe maybe that's a good play. in the background there. >> Apple, they're about 5 years old. They're prime. for this. Like if Herby wants to share. the spotlight and and I have an agent. that does it, you know, his job worth. his salt, you know, and he gets one of. these dog food deals, that'd be great. >> Jeez.

>> All right, enjoy yourself out there. I. think there's a lot of people in that. course who probably get you a deal. You're in a minute, ladies and. gentlemen. I'm Chef D. >> Blinded, dude. What? Hey, >> dude. What do I do? >> You're sitting here and all of a sudden. I need to get. >> What do you want me kibbles and bits? Dude, >> I think Ker Herby might be lying, too. >> Yeah, I think they already shot the. commercial, but there could be another. commercial. Oh, there could be. >> There was there was a time last year, middle of college game uh college. football season where uh it was Friday. night, maybe Herby was in town cuz his.

bull was playing high school football. Sure. He has since committed to Michigan. on scholarship. Congrats to Chase. And. that is an interesting dynamic. So. >> Herby's dad, I think, coach at Ohio. State. He obviously was Ohio State uh. quarterback captain. >> He's on that college game. They said, "Oh, Iowa, you know, >> and he starts saying some stuff. obviously about Ohio and everybody. Herby's. >> Herby. Mhm. Ohio people get mad at him. >> Then all of a sudden his boy does not. get offered a scholarship from Ohio. State. No. >> Does get offered a scholarship to. Michigan. His boy's worked his ass off. and play football his entire life trying. to create his own path. I got.

scholarship offer to Michigan. >> Go Blue. >> Yeah. Hail the Victors, baby. >> He be a fool not to take it. >> And then all of a sudden, >> Kirk there, you got all of Ohio going, "You told him to go there. We know you. did." And Kirk's like, "No, I actually. love Ohio." Kirk gets like emotional. talking about Ohio State and what it. means to him. His dad, I think his. father was coached there a long time. >> So Chase going to Michigan. First of. all, Chase, we love Chase. Lot of moxy. on Chase. >> Little too much. And I easy on the.

>> Okay. I like. >> I love Chase. >> I like the kid kind of. >> I hear what you're saying. >> I love Chase. If we were to go around. the room, Ty loves a good boy. I love. Chase. >> Ty and Tone. Good. >> Good boy. >> He's a sweet boy. Love is a strong word. >> Okay. Dumpy also has his dots about. love. He he likes. >> really know him that well. >> Okay. Nick's never been around Chase. >> I will say Chase has some takes. Every. once in a while, Chase will fire off. some takes. He's a high schooler. Ba is.

a college obviously. >> He's lived he's lived a life. You want. to know why Herby is not up there? Cuz. he's going to be chirp chirping for Ball. State in a year. Okay. I love Herby. I I. do. It's real tough coming in as a. quarterback when you're coming in with. the number one recruit overall in the. entire. >> What do you think? What do you do you. think this is? What do you think Chase. doesn't understand the situation he's. walking into? >> I know you understand the situation and. it is sweet. Hey, I'm going to Michigan. It's sweet. You know what you don't have. to deal with? You know, a year into. college. Hey, I'm I'm transferring to.

Miami of Ohio. Actually, let's go. Mac. >> Chase might end up being West Virginia. Boy, he can run. >> Bingo. That's what I'm saying. >> Chase can run. >> I'm not saying he's going to leave. I'm. >> You need to watch him. Exactly what I'm. saying. You're starting to dance to. Ohio. The Ohio Bobcats dance a little. bit too much, buddy. Okay, we're Big 12. >> Dancing too much. You know who's dancing. too much? >> Who? >> Shfter. Cuz if I was 19 years old and. blind and deaf, I'd want to get shot in. the head so bad. >> You talking about that dog? 19 years old. is a long time.

>> If my dog lived to 19, I'd be so mad. >> Why? If I'm not. >> my I got my Valerie, our dog, Pit Bull. Sharpi. She's like 12 years old right. now. >> Okay. >> 12 13 years old. >> That That makes sense. >> Yeah. But she's obviously an older dog. and like just hanging out with. >> quality. I'm talking about quality of. life those last 5 years. >> Yeah. It's still sweet though. She has. like a bed basically in every room, you. know? It's like it's a really cool. thing. When he said 19, I thought to. myself, seven more years with Valerie would be. wild if that was to happen, especially.

at this case. But man, those dogs, Valerella, I hung out with Val uh. Saturday, a little bit late with her. >> And I gave her a speech basically. I was. like, "Hey, you've been a good dog. Just. want to let you know that. >> whenever you need to go, you go. You. have a good one." Well, could you. imagine doing that for seven years? 19. >> No. >> Oh, he's he's talked about that dog. Like, he legitimately has to has to pick. it up and take it outside every single. time it has to go to the bathroom. >> Poop and dust. >> That's what I'm saying. That's what. they're saying. >> Pooping probably not happening if I had. to guess. Poop. Poop is the toughest.

thing. just puke and poop. >> It's a lot of energy to poop. Like jeez. All right, let's uh Von Miller has. signed with the Washington Commanders. >> Also, the Washington whatevers. First of. all, we love Von Miller. We are uh Von. Miller fans. There was a time where Von. Miller was coming on the show once a. week. Yep. >> Remember that? It was great chit. chatting with him. He signed an. exclusive deal with the place. Couldn't. join us anymore, which is a bummer, but. we uh still continue to follow along. Future Hall of Famer, probably future. general manager in the NFL. He has now.

signed with the Washington Commanders. Washington Commander is obviously in the. middle of trying to get a new stadium. built in Washington DC that's. potentially going to be put on hold. And. uh we learned of that from a truth. social post from the president of the. United States who said they need to. change their name back immediately. And. uh I'll tell you what, I don't know if. the president has read the tea leaves on. the internet or has talked to the. Washington fan base. I will say this. from a personal uh opinion and my own. personal research. It named Commanders. at the beginning. Didn't love it. Who.

are we? The Commanders. Tough name. >> Sure. >> Go on. >> Couple years later here now after them. having some success. Commander is not a. terrible name. Not a not not a not not a. horrendous name. Washington football. team didn't think it was a horrendous. name. I think if you win anybody will. like any name. What I will say though. for the Washington football fans, they. played here away game a couple years. ago. They took over a lot of Lucasville. Stadium. Okay. Hey, they got a big fan. base. >> Just wild. >> I didn't see a single Washington.

Commander piece of merch. >> What did you see? >> Anybody. >> football team? >> No, I didn't see that either. There's no. WFTs or WTFs. It was all from the uh the. days. >> when Alex Smith was there. >> Uh. >> Joe Dyman. >> Yeah, >> Doug Williams. Doug Williams. >> Every piece of merch, shirt, hat. I. mean, I think I saw towels, blankets, >> and there was like 35,000. Scary Terry went off. >> and there insane deep touchdown to win.

in the fourth quarter. We should have. beat him. It was an awesome environment. It was electrifying. But there was. Washington fans everywhere. All of them. had Redskins merch on. Yep. >> All All of them. Every single person. that was there. Now, is that because. they are not from there? So, they've. been generational fans like my dad was a. fan. My my father's father, my mother's. mother was a fan of the team and this is. the only merch that they had. They had. not bought the new stuff yet or whatever. the case is. I think President Trump. knew that there is a contingency of. people that are very much on board with. getting back to the Redskins. With that.

being said, I think it's gonna take a. lot. >> I think it's going to take a lot for. that to happen. Is the threat of a. stadium being stopped from being built. enough to change it back? >> Yep. >> I think the new ownership group. certainly has something we got to figure. out. >> That's a bold play. Uh now obviously. there is uh there is a former uh I. believe before he was President Donald. Trump tweet about this saying as. president as was president talking about. the name of a football team. >> Yeah more more important things.

>> There are some important things out. there. Huh. situations are situational. obviously and you can kind of do this. whole number but I think what people. need to realize especially the people. that are very against whatever he says. and if he says something this time that. you're against it's like there is a. contingency people on the other side. that are very loyal and pumped behind. that and now we find ourselves yet again. at a beautiful crossroads of boom I'm. right no I'm right until nothing happens. all I know is they need a new stadium. >> bad the poop pipes were bursting. >> so bad.

>> all over the People are damn near dying. with rails cracking from fans doing. this. People are having a drink of beer. All of a sudden, what's in their beer? Oh, poop and water and urine. What's. that from? The pipe right above me. burst. Boom. John took a dump two. seconds ago. Now it's in my beer cuz. this stadium stinks. Things cracking. People potentially falling. This is a. massive organization. This is the. biggest league on earth. This is the. most profitable league on earth. They. have been an embarrassment. That stadium. has been an embarrassment to the league. We used to see it and think to.

ourselves, is that a uh is that an MLS. stadium? >> That can't be an NFL stadium. >> That's got to be old NFL stadium, right? They got a new NFL stadium. They moved. out of that stadium. Now the XFL is. playing there. Is that where the DC uh. >> defenders. >> defenders are playing or No, that's. where the Washington NFL team is still. playing at. It's like that's an. embarrassment. Can't have that. So, can. have the stadium hold up happen for the. for the good of the league, for the good. of the game. But boy, it feels like if. actual politics are getting involved and. the president's involved and there's a.

lot of on both sides, I think it's a big. classic. Washington DC, I don't think. anything's happening. >> Feels pretty simple to me. >> Feels like we're playing that stadium. for the next 20 years. >> I don't know. You want a You want You. want a new stadium? Go back to one of. the most recognized names in NFL. history. >> Yeah. >> How clearly that is how one side. definitely feels. >> They can't play in that stadium like for. the And you just said it. It is for the. next 20 years. and we're all going to. watch cuz Jaden Daniels was there. Like. this is now becoming a premier place. I. mean they have Debo Samuel and Terry. McLaren. Like they have notable notable.

names and now Jaden Daniels is what 24. So for the next 15 years, this team's. going to be on prime time and competing. for Super Bowls. They got to get the. stadium done. >> They got to get that guy's deal done. first of all. >> How about how about the ownership being. like, Terry, we want to get your deal. done. Do you know what we're dealing. with? >> You see this post? >> You on truth? You on truth social? You. know who this is? >> Okay. That's president and us. >> You're not on it. >> Okay. We're talking multiple billion. Terry, we're trying. Will you just tell. him you can't, please? We're trying to.

get this whole thing done. That's the. president. Yeah. Can he Can he veto us. getting a stadium? Yeah, >> sure can. >> Yeah, he certainly can. He certainly he. certainly can make it a lot harder. Then. there'll be judges and this and then. some regional judge will bump it. I've. been learning a lot about all this way. too much. My algo, especially now. because it actually is football related. So my algo is like, I don't know if. you've heard, but the time has come. Politics in sports, boom, here's it. right down your feed. Here's everybody. that's pissed off about it. Here's. everybody that's pumped about it. Wow.

You'll be surprised to hear that these. people actually want this. It's like, who are they? Well, that's actually a. Native American society of blah blah. blah. They are against. No, they're for. it. Well, I just read that this Native. American society's well, >> two separate entities. >> Boy side different. >> How do they ever get anything done? >> That's exactly why they won't go back. >> That's what I'm you know, everybody from. from the top down, they've been doing. everything right, you know, and they the. stadium will get done. I think this is. just a little, you know, justap yapping. Yeah. Yapping on social media. I am. concerned about what's going on with the. NIL potentially limiting him what they.

can make. But wherever they play, whatever the team name is, which I think. it will be, Commanders, that guy, those. highlights they been running, that's the. guy they need to keep in the building. cuz I think when he was drafted, he was. it was still the Redskins and he's been. dominant. He's been productive year in. and year out regardless of who's at. quarterback. Khan Angels called it. Jaden Daniels being there seems to be. the face of the franchise. Should be a. guy for the next decade at least. You. want to get your guy who's been a pillar. in the organization uh in there and. standing there comfortable. All these.

wide receivers getting paid. All these. people are getting paid. He should be. the first guy on the list to get taken. care of before camp. They report. tomorrow as well. So hopefully uh they. can get whenever they report 2016. >> Uh back let's go back to the NIL thing. because that was a big story line. I saw. a bunch of headlines. I didn't see what. was actually said. >> because. >> this is once again politics meeting. sports which is great. >> which is absolutely great. >> We love everything about that. The NIL. commission committee thing. We've talked. about how that's.

>> impossible. >> impossible. That would be an impossible. feat because if somebody presents a a. deal, an advertising deal from a. company, >> how is a group of people in America in a. capitalist world that we live in. hopefully forever? >> Jesus, that's a wild thing to think. about. >> But if you're able to make money from a. company, how is a group of people. allowed to say that it's a worthy deal. or not? Like in America, an adult who's. allowed to get a deal done gets. presented an opportunity from a company.

to advertise for them and it's worth two. million bucks. Then a committee is supposed to say. whether or not it meets the window or. the criteria of what a deal looks like. Who says what a deal looks like? This. kid just negotiated a better deal than. anybody in history. If it's only two. posts, if it's a million dollars a post, then this person maybe should be. representing United States government. negotiations with other countries. If. that's the case, how can you ever turn. any of those down? I like what's the. purpose of a committee? I don't know how.

you could say no to anything. Like I. think there's just lawsuits on top of. lawsuits. So unless there is some like. form of hey you're allowed to rule that. there is a window in these things which. I guess could limit some but they. they're that committee is a waste of. time I think personally unless there's. some sort of p I I don't I don't know. how you I'm very worried about how they. stop all that and by very worried I mean. like the game's going to be great. >> the players are going to get paid. grotesqually only some schools are.

really going to be able to do it. everybody else is going to have to catch. up and it's like has that always been. happening just at a lower level kind of. so I'm not worried about the game itself. and just like Sanki said it's strained. it's not ruined but it's like that. committee thing I don't see the purp I. don't know how that is going to do. anything I don't know how because how. you turn down any deal if I was to go to. a committee of agents with the deal that. I negotiated with ESPN for the licensing. fee and these people who I could run. circles around at the negotiating table.

tell me that that's not that's not. allowed deal I'd be very pissed off. >> Yeah, >> I I would be very pissed off. Just cuz. you couldn't get this deal doesn't mean. that somebody couldn't get this deal. And by somebody, I got this deal done. And this is how this goes. Here are the. reasons why I got this deal. And oh, yeah, we'll be profitable for the. company very quickly, which is exactly. what happened. So, I don't know how that. committee. >> I don't know, man. So, I think there has. to be some sort of something. Yeah. >> Like, there has to be some sort of. something if they're even gonna have. that committee. And if they're trying to.

make it fair, I don't know how you. >> Yeah. needed. >> I I don't I don't know how you in my. head I have a small brain. There's. people a lot smarter than me obviously, but I feel like we've dealt with uh all. the things that are currently being. dealt with in this world, whether it's. advertising, digital deals, linear. stuff, social stuff, all the brands basically that they're. working with. We've kind of worked with. and know all the people. So, it's like I. I don't know how you I don't know how. you get on track. I I genuinely don't. So, if they're trying to make some sort.

of, you know, something, I guess you. could word that as limiting NIL, but I. guess until we see it, we have no idea. >> Well, and is it like a the Ryan Williams. situation? Like Ryan Williams just. signed a deal with Nike, >> second player ever, >> second player ever after Shadore. Uh, is. it a situation where uh, you know, Alabama's an Under Armour school, so if. Nike were to offer Ryan Williams, like. is that the checks and balances type of. situation where Ryan Williams could have. an offer, but because his school is an. Under Armour place or. >> Just real quick, uh, whatever the school.

is, what you're going to be wearing on. that field, too. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. we uh. >> had a situation like that cuz kids are. getting deals in high school now like. these apparel deals and then obviously. you go to a university and they have. these huge huge contracts apparel. contracts with say a company. So off the. field though they they'll still be able. to do appearance say you know you're an. Adidas guy you go to a Nike school. you'll still be able to do Adidas. signings do Adidas commercials and. things like that but just like you said. like it's no going back. Like you think. about the the young lady in Texas Tech.

who just kind of reset the market. You. assume Arch Manning probably resets the. market. The young kid we just saw in the. flag football game who has offers from. the entire country making one-handed. catches. You assume when that guy goes. to college, these guys are going to. reset the market. So you can't set them. back and say, "Oh, that's not a fair. market deal." Yeah, it's going to. >> Is TJ Walking 41 million a year a fair. market deal? I guess because Miles. Garrett got that. Well, before Miles got. it, who got nobody? So it's like here's. the based on recent guidance issued by. the college sports commission and.

stipulations within the house. settlement. The NIL GO clearing house. overseen by the CSC is rejecting or. expected to reject the following types. of deals. Deals lacking a valid business. purpose. This refers to deals where the. entity providing the compensation. doesn't offer goods or services to. general public for profit. Two posts on. social. Okay, that's a business purpose. Deals solely designed to funnel money to. athletes for school. For example, a. collective holding an event or selling. merchandise with the primary purpose of. raising funds to pay athletes rather. than offering goods or services to the. public will be rejected. So funds have.

to go to them. See, can we raise funds? That doesn't make any sense. Deals that. are not within a fair market range of. compensation. Who says what's fair. market? >> Exactly. >> That would be the two posting. >> Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Like who. says that? That I don't know. I just I. feel like they're going to have a lot of. trouble unless there is some sort of. power given to them, which is what they. would have to get, I think, which goes. back to what the headline could be. >> But based on this, too, like this. committee, wasn't the whole point like, hey, we need consistency cuz that's. that's what we're lacking here is. there's just no consistency. It seems.

like with this type of thing, it's the. kind of thing where the rules still. might change year after year because. like if you're going to do that the fair. market range of compensation, they need. to go through every single player in the. NCAA and figure out what that is. >> Not only NCAA cuz some of these guys are. entertainers, they stream as well. They. go through streaming. I mean, social. it's like I don't know how you. >> in these suits are going to be able to. figure it out. >> And how much time. >> to go through all that. >> that that take years and years to do. that. And who's the regulator on what.

the market is? Like who's the one that. regulates what a good fair deal is? >> NCAA football. He's only 75. We can't be. giving this guy. >> Yeah. You're going to go off ratings on. D 2. Is that right? I don't I don't. know. >> I don't know. They they got a lot to. work on on this. I don't This feels like. a lot of lawsuits. Just. >> Yeah. So big. >> Just I'm feel I'm I'm viewing me as an. 18-year-old. And once again, I pitched. the NFL in a I think it was NFL PA. meeting or maybe it was a team meeting. I forget what it was. Uh, no, it might.

have been an NFL meeting. I was like, "How come the Colts are allowed to have. scratch offs here in town? I'm not. allowed to have scratch off. How come. I'm not allowed to have the McAfee. Millions scratch off here with the uh. state uh lottery or whatever?" Like, you're not allowed to It's gambling. I'm. like, "You guys got a scratch off. How. come I'm not allowed to get a scratch. off?" And then next question, I have my. own merch deal. I don't want the NFLPA. to handle my merch deal. Well, the NFL. PA has everybody's merch deal. Well, I'm. not joining the NFL PA. Do they have my. merch deal? Well, I guess technically. not, but they already have it. It's. like, nope, I'm not signed up for the.

NFLPA. So, I'm just thinking as somebody. who has always been a little bit of a. [ __ ] prick whenever it comes to. getting money like that is, you know, come from not a lot, not telling a story. that not a lot of people have, but I've. been getting to the money since like. fifth grade, selling cigarettes at 50. cents a pop. Great business, great ROI. Now, great. And whenever they catch you. with a curtain in fifth grade in your. backpack, they're looking for you to get. kicked out of that school forever. Sure. And Sally Mackie had heard it. You had. to help me. So it's like. >> carton. >> carton. Yeah, I was moving dude. I was. sounding high school off camera. I. didn't know the plug. >> I was good. The plug hindsight terrible.

human. might be. too. >> No, I didn't pull him. There's no way. >> Well, he was making sure you weren't. smoking them. >> Of course. >> Well, you never get half your own. supply. I obviously understood that. But. I was around a lot of people that smoke. sigs and I just figured like, okay, if. you guys are going to smoke sigs, I. might as well at least be able to get a. grapefruit at extras here. Yeah. A grape. juice at extras. >> Yeah. First couple were stolen from uh. friend's mom's ashtray. Okay, let me go. ahead and pluck that. She uh had massive.

lipstick, so I had to cut off the tip. So, it was a shorter filter. >> So, I obviously sold it that way. Shorter filter, shorter stem. And then. once I sold it quicker, >> I sold it. Yeah, I sold it for I think. uh it was like a half sig for like uh 50. cents or something like that. And. immediately it was like. >> I got to get more cigarettes. So, I. started finding ashtrays and then I. found a guy a kid I guess he's 18 years. old. >> to start supplying me. Yeah. I was. moving. I was telling the high schoolers. it was not good. I mean, obviously. terrible thing, but if they were going. to smoke sigs regardless, I might as. well at least get my grape juice. Yeah.

And then whenever they caught me, it was. hell. I mean, it was I saw the girl get. caught. I remember her name. She was at. recess smoking on school property. One. of the main rules. Don't do that. >> Teacher comes around the corner. >> We have a system. >> We had a system. Elise, can we obey the. rules a little bit? We're not smoking. >> on the elementary school property. Street's going to get real hot. Flicks. that thing up. It lands right back. She. was next to a dumpster. She flicks it up. into the dumpster. Doesn't go into the. dumpster. Lands right next to her. Then. obviously I think Mr. Gregory caught. her. Mr. Gregory catches her. Shout Miss. Gregory. He's a good guy. He was.

actually mass piece of me. Not getting. sent like jail or anything like that. Shout Miss Gregory. Saw her walk in. I. watched her walk in. >> and I was just like, >> knew she was snitch. >> Yeah. And I just stood there. Pat Mry, please come down the office. >> [ __ ] Here we go. That was a That was a. tough walk. That was a bad walk. I. thought I was over then. I'd been in. some [ __ ] obviously. Not a great kid, but that one I thought it was over. He. sit in this room. They took me in a back.

room. Never been in this room. >> I was just going to immediately deny it. And then they brought my backpack in. >> So, what do we have here? >> That feels illegal. That feels illegal. >> Entrament a little bit. Yeah. Yeah. I. didn't have an attorney. >> Yeah, it was Dr. Bobby. He and I had. quite a run. He became superintendent of. this. I mean it was me and Dr. P did not. have a great for good reason I assume. >> but my mom went in there and said like. aren't we kind of impressed with the. business acumen of this guy. My mom very. against me normally my mom is very much. a we got to keep this guy humble. You.

know that was the first time she's ever. really gone to bat for me. Thank God. Certainly she spended like two weeks or. whatever catch up on all of it. But I. stopped moving sigs that day and I'll. tell you what. >> I don't think I've had a grape juice. thing. >> They were so good. >> Welch just stocked both of them. >> Oh my. That's all I wanted. That's how. it started. Those little grape juices. Everybody's having these things. They. look so good. >> Better than stealing them. >> True. >> Bingo. >> I think Sally probably said that at one. point to Dr. Bishopia. Your kids selling. the juniors in high school right now. Need to get them out of here. It's like,

well, aren't we kind of impressed? You. set up an whole elaborate business. >> I was pretty proud of me. But what I'm. saying is how are they going to turn. down my deal? You can't. >> can't do it. Impossible. >> Unless there's some, >> "Hey, you can't be selling a cigarette. for 50 cents," says this guy's buying. it. Supply man, [ __ ] I got it. He wants it. That's just kind of what. they. >> have. Yeah. They set a max. >> They would have to. But that's what I'm. saying. That would have to come from a. some sort of law to empower the. committee, >> right? >> Committee is going to have to be. empowered by.

>> legal, I think. >> Mhm. >> Cuz if not, >> Nope. Nope. >> Nope. >> Ah, we're back on the other side. Be a. friend. Tell a friend something nice. See you then. [Music]. That's stupid. It's crazy. That also take us off the bucket. We do. not deserve this. >> They all commit and love what's going on.

in that weight room. They all commit and. love what Jim Harbaugh is preaching. And. everybody in the building's happy. Everybody's like excited to be there. >> First row pressure, first row. Second. row is up here. >> It is infectious that they got going on. And how many owners are spending 300. million on a new facility just for. practice facility? >> This is buckies. >> Wow. [Music].

>> But then for them to do it upright for. the last couple, it's like look out for. the Chargers, dude. Look out for the. Chargers. Hey, I got a gift for you. Where you at? >> Okay. So, miss your birthday and miss. Christmas. We. >> Oh, look at that. >> Your perspective on high fives is one of. the greatest things you've ever seen. All time great invention. >> I love the high five. >> Yeah. Give each other a high five.

>> Boom. >> Oh my god. Wow. >> Boom. [ __ ]. >> We wanted to make you basically. something that you could have like dad. made. >> Oh wow. >> Feeling. I think you can give it a pretty good. pause. >> Yeah. >> That is incredible.

>> Obviously national champion Michigan. man. Greatest high five. >> Yeah. Because of what you brought before. the high five. [Music]. He tried to give a handshake to that. particular high five trophy. Did break. the hand off. We had to put it back on. >> Yeah. Way to go. Handshake. >> Oh no. Oh no. >> There we go.

>> We have so much respect. >> You guys just roll teeth. This is. >> This would be entourage level, wouldn't. it? To be honest, we didn't know we were. going to be able to get 11 people in. here. And then we pulled up 11. That's. why two team start. >> I mean, wow. It looks like a lot of. highlights against one particular team. >> They played more than one game. Why did. they have.

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[Applause]. [Music]. Hello beautiful people and welcome back. to our humble abode the thunder on this. overreaction Monday July 21st 2025 hour. two of the program begins now. sports tone comes in hot that's one half. of the hammer cowboys the toxic table is. here at Boston Connor and at Ty Schmidt. love the shirt just giving a little. juice to Tatum letting them know during.

recovery and rehab I'm still here for. you bud I still got your back. You're. still the man even though you're. recovering with your Achilles tear. >> Yeah, I saw you at the WNBA skills. competition with Tyrese and it made me. think about how damn, these guys are. just the beginning of their rehab and. they have so long to go. So, yeah, a. little love for Tatum. You still one of. the best in the league. People forget. about him. >> Yeah, Tatum is an absolute dog. Never. gets talked about in that fashion ever, even though he's already won and. everything like that. I think the. Olympics, the way he was treated by. Coach Kerr and didn't didn't play much, he certainly added into it all. I hope.

he keeps all the chips on his shoulder. through this Achilles recovery and we. can't wait to see him back. Tatum, we're. pulling for you, Bob. >> Oh, yeah. Jason. >> Hallebertton, we're pulling for you, bud. >> Yeah, boy. Luck, boys. >> On that note, Tyrese Hallebertton will. be joining us tomorrow. >> Wow. >> Yeah. Live in studio. I think he uh. >> should have saved it. >> I don't think we've talked to him uh. since it all happened. I don't think. he's talked to really anybody since this. all happened. It's been cool to kind of. keep up with his entire process here. I. can't wait for him to chitchat about his. mindset and who all he's been talking to. and how it's all gone. He's been at.

every single Indiana Fever event, every. single WNBA event. If there's an event. that he can get to that he can kick, push kick, push, kick, push, kick, push, and coast his way into, he's going. He's. looking for He's not allowed to leave. >> He's not allowed to leave. So, his. entire rehab and recovery is all. happening here in Indianapolis. Did he. have massive plans for the offseason? Hopefully after winning a title, after. dropping 40 in game seven, after.

everything like that, of course. Now. he's at his house. >> Yep. >> He's doing recovery. He's at his house. He's doing recovery. And then if there's. anything happening, anything at all, he. would go to the Fisher Freight Games if. they were happening and he could roll. into that thing cuz they seem rolling as. he's coming in there. He's just trying. to break up the monotony of it all. But. he's fully focused, locked in. He's got. a little bit of a shaggy beard. >> Okay. Like that. Oh, like that. Why did. you make that face? >> How bad is his beard? >> So, he's really becoming part of the. scale 1 to 10. How How bad is this.

beard? >> Is he starting to look like the memes? >> I I don't know. I don't know. He is. starting to look which was my exact. first thing I said to him. >> What? >> First thing you know that's nineyear-old. vet Darius Jay Butler who lives online. He knows what. >> I haven't been on. the moment. >> It would have been during the Nick. series. There was a lot of the memes. But anyways, yes, he does kind of look. like that. But it feels like his spirits. are high, but he understands that the. process sucks. Yeah. You know, like uh. an Achilles recovery sucks. You got to. work on all the little muscles in your. feet and your calves. You got to build.

back everything. And then whenever you. think you're back, you're probably still. 6 months away from being back. It's a uh. it's an entire mental game as much as it. is physical. Can't wait to catch up with. him tomorrow. Hopefully, we'll get a. chance to catch up on how his dad's. doing. >> Mhm. We got to clear the. >> pull up, too. >> Pop should pull up. >> That's not a bad idea. Hey John, come. through dude. Listen, I had a night with Boba Hallebertton. >> What? >> It was incredible. >> And a morning if you know what I mean. >> What? >> No,

>> that is actually the complete opposite. of who he is. He uh that's why I believe. he was so mad because somebody said that. he cursed them out. Cursed somebody out. Somebody said I don't know who said. that. >> Giannis said that he cursed them out or. something like that. This dude has never. sworn a day in his life. Okay. Talk. [ __ ] Mhm. >> has never sworn. >> One of those guys, >> Moxy through the roof. I I mean, I've. obviously witnessed him courtside. I've. gotten a chance to chat with him a. couple times. Friday night, Gumpy and I. go to the skills contest. Congrats to. Sabrina. >> Congrats. >> She wins the three-point shooting. contest yet again. Almost beats or she.

has in the past, I guess, uh, one other. time, but she almost beat Tyrese. Hallebertton's men's record one more. time. 30 is what he got. So, he has the. men's record, I believe, for the. three-point shooting contest. Did we. know that about Tyrese? Absolutely not. Till we were at skills contest, we. learned that Sabrina wins again. She. just won unconscious for like three of. the racks. I mean, and I was there for. it. I got a chance to witness uh the. entirety of it and it was spectacular. >> Their skills contest about an hour long. >> That's nice.

>> Okay. A lot of skills. >> packed into a short amount of time. >> You know, if you happen to show up just. a little bit late to this thing, you. know, because it's downtown, you got to. get through traffic. There's a lot of. this, a lot of that. You know, like. you're missing a lot of this. Let's say. you were to get there about 8:30. You. You missed. >> missed half the half. >> You got half left. >> Let's say you get there by 8:40. You. know, cuz you're thinking, I got at. least hour 20 left of this thing. It's. in an arena. It's a skills contest. They're going to try to drain every. dollar out of this. >> Well, maybe that's the issue.

>> That's what I'm saying. That thing was. over 9:15. >> quick. I don't think I've ever been in. an event that was that like kind of. >> commercial break kind of. It was, as a. viewer, it was pretty, it was nice, quick in and out. Now, I wonder about. families that pay the tickets, get all. the way down there, you're like 10. minutes late, got an hour show, then. you're able to get out of there. Who. cares? There was a weekend of stuff. Uh, but that could be a problem. But yeah, if you got in there late, imagine you. get there like 8:55, 8:50, >> you're only there, miss the whole thing, see a trophy presentation, show up.

>> What's that? >> You don't even show up. >> Yeah. But if it's 2 hours, then you're. getting there like the perfect time. >> Don't be late. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Simple. >> Agreed. I mean, if you got nothing else. going on in your life at all, you could. get there right on time for every event. that happens all the time. >> Has any event ever been an hour. >> in an arena? I don't think so. >> That had open tickets? >> I don't think so. I actually I was. dumbfounded. I I'd never been more. impressed and flustered at the same. time. When it was over, I was like, "It's over." Like, "This is over." And I.

saw everybody getting up and leaving. I'm like, >> "When's the next event?" I mean, if you. got. >> hour 15 point contest, >> if you got Diplo in the ones and twos, >> I heard Diplo was well received. Yeah, Diplo the EDM. >> Now, to be clear, Diplo did need to pass. the aux to the stud buds. I don't know. what he was think Buds ran Indianapolis. Not everybody. Now, Grant, numerous. times the stud buds did call for Caitlyn. Clark to fix things. You know, hey, the. bar's closing 3:00 a.m. Somebody called. Caitlyn Clark. We keep this thing open.

Probably stayed open if I had to guess. But the WNBA here in Indianapolis from. we heard streets were buzzing. >> Yeah, >> we heard place was alive and WNBA. players are calling it Miami. >> That's great. If you would like to. experience Miami. >> just much more affordable, come to. Indianapolis. >> It's the same thing. >> That's what WNBA players are saying, not. me. I'm just telling you what WNBA. players are saying. Great weekend here. uh in the city. Congrats to not. Caitlyn's team for winning. >> Correct. >> And uh show up for anything either.

I think Kelsey Plum personally was. trying to [ __ ] talk Sabrina. >> I believe she was on Caitlyn's team. I. believe Sabrina was on Caitlyn's team. So, I think she like basically was. shitalking her. I don't think she meant. to throw Caitlyn Clark under the bus as. much. And she did say immediately. afterwards, I'm just trying to keep it. light here. Uh, and it was not taken. that way at all. No. >> But a lot of people were saying like, "Hey, >> come on. >> Do you know why you're in the city. you're in right now? >> She don't want to come to a t-shirt. meeting. I think we're okay with it. >> She wore it,

>> but I don't think Kelsey was saying. that. >> She did wear it. >> Yeah, they all wore that shirt. >> Yeah, Kelsey don't give a damn anyways. >> They all wore that shirt. >> It's a good point. >> How about them coming out on the court? >> Oh, yeah. >> All wearing it and then bang, the only. conversation about the entire weekend. >> Mhm. >> T-shirts. >> There it is. >> Let's remember Indianapolis, Miami. That's what they're saying. Joining us. now, ladies and gentlemen, a man who. does not live in Miami, Indianapolis, a. man who lives in Ohio. He's a college. football national champion, Super Bowl. champion, Rder Cup winner. Ladies and. gentlemen, AJ Hawk.

>> What's up, Hawker? >> Yeah, Diplo was not uh as wellreceived. as I thought he might be in that. situation. Huh. >> My wife knew of people that were trying. to get into Diplo's event. So, if that. means anything, there was uh there was. maybe a text or two sent, hey, could you. potentially hook up Baba to get into. Diplo's thing? So, there was we'd like. Diplo to know that there was some buzz. >> High demand. There's a demand. There was. some demand in the city for you. I. didn't know anybody in the camp so I. can't. >> sure. >> I can't I've seen Diplo. I think I've.

seen him uh perform. >> He's like a run. The dude's everywhere. He has a running club. Like he's he has. a whole movement behind him. >> Sitting right next to us at uh Mania. >> He was 40. >> Diplo was next to. >> Oh yeah, you're right. >> What city? >> Philly. >> Philly. Philly. >> Yeah. >> Diplo was sitting next to you. >> Yeah. >> Diplo Mark. >> Oh yeah. >> Diplo is about Diplo's kind of the man. What's Diplin's song? Just so I know. >> Uh, you know that one that's like,

>> "Hey, I'm Diplo.". >> The one with the the one with Parker. Mcllum is Diplo. >> Lonely Long. >> Lonely Long. Yeah. >> Okay, that's a banger. Okay, I got it. >> That whole album has songs similar to. that one that he's got a few. >> I respect that. >> You heard the one with him and. >> Big. Where are you now? Why you got to be so. hard? >> That's a banger. >> Banger seems like Diplo's names on it's. probably. >> is the one with Dual Lipa uh on there. >> with the baby. >> Um yeah, >> Levit express yourself.

>> Is that No. Is. >> he does have one with the baby? >> That Diplo needs to come back to town. >> Diplo needs to come back to the town. All right, listen. Uh WNBA was great. AJ, my take on it all was they're. already losing 40 million. Everybody's. talked about it. Why not just add an. extra four million bucks? Give them all. $30,000. Now they're up over a hundred. grand. At least that's a respectable. amount for a professional league to pay. their professional athletes, especially. one that has a TV deal. AJ, now them. losing $40 million in profits.

Everybody's got attacking the players. saying, "Hey, you guys create a product. that isn't like that doesn't generate. capital." It's like, okay, what are we. spending this money on? You know, how. could you have $200 million in revenue. and then spend $240 million each year. and just keep rolling? Like is there is. there never a who's percentage of. they're getting too? >> That's what it is. They they got to. fight for percentage I would imagine. But do we know if there's any other. professional sports leagues that are. losing as much money? Like do other. sport like they do lacrosse.

>> Allegedly Steven Coar is losing. >> We're learning a lot about a lot of. things. So it's it's an interesting kind. of um process here because we've been. very lucky that we've been forced to. just basically only do business with our. show. our the only way our business has. worked is our show has worked is. business. We have to make money for the. people that we are working for. Like. that is how I kind of view it and. everything. Now, we've been very lucky. to negotiate a lot of deals. Every time. though, I give a road back to how your. company profits with us. Now, I don't. know how many people are doing that. I.

assume a lot of agents do that as well. I've never been in there with an agent. while that's happening. But that is my. that is my negotiating style. Hey, here's how this thing goes in my eyes. Here's your road back to your amount of. money and plus here's where you can help. us. Here's what we think we can bring. you. Now, all of that ends though with. profit, okay? Which is all any of these. people care about. Now, granted, if we. can make the world a better place, cool. If it's going to have massive success, cool. But if it's going to make the. world a better place and have massive. success, it's probably going to. >> probably going to turn a profit.

>> Probably going to profit as well. So for. me from a standpoint as an athlete who. actually does negotiations and has been. in there with people and generated some. capital and I think the valuation of the. company that I've guided is probably. going to come out here in a little bit. and people are going to be like holy. [ __ ] maybe this guy isn't the dumbest. [ __ ] in the history of sports media. But with that being said I think WNBA. players making the statement that they. did. I appreciate their commitment. I. appreciate their passion. I appreci I. appreciate their togetherness like the. collective everybody was wearing it. Now. how do you get the road back to make.

that a profitable company? Now, is that. just on the players or is that. potentially on all the business people. too from the league, you know, that are. doing their entire thing? What are we. spending money on? Is it the same as. what the NFL PA. >> Well, not. >> age can't have it. >> Did we have any idea all of this was. going kind of going on behind the. scenes? Like, did anyone know the. magnitude of all of this? Like. everything happening? >> So, in my head, this is straight out of. a let's take advantage of dumb. professional athletes head. I mean, we.

but we can't first off like we can't be. turning in strip club receipts as. business expenses. >> Transportation. How do you get there? >> How do you get there? >> You think I'm You think I'm alone in. here? Yeah, I'm right. There's another. NFL PA exec in here, too. Did we talk. about the NFL PA in here? Absolutely. We're bettering the NFL PA. This is a. meeting, is it not? Yeah, certainly. Expense it. Charge the dumbass players. Now, I could see how somebody would want. to do that, especially whenever you just. have an actual war chest of money. That.

is what they call. We got to build up. the war chest for whenever the CBA. negotiations happen because these deals. aren't negotiating themselves. They up. the fees. We need more money to get the. war chest cuz these deals aren't. negotiating themselves. When you guys. get fined, you need somebody to comb it. We want to hire the best lawyers. You. know how we hire the best lawyers? Well, we got to pay them a high per hour rate. How do we get a higher per hour rate? Well, we need more money from you guys. We go from uh 20,000 bucks from each. He. goes 22,000 22,000. He goes that ain't. nothing to worry about it. Where's all. this money going for you? It's where's.

money's going. Don't you worry about it. Everybody before you has joined it and. look what the union has done for you in. the past. Roll video. Bang. There was. rats running around in the locker room. >> There was ecoli in the water bottles. >> Jeez. >> And then your union changed the entire. NFL and got you guys contracts. veteran men's and rookie men and yada. yada. That's because of us. And I'm. like, [ __ ] you weren't even. alive when that happened. You were. handing the baton of this entire thing. And all I've ever seen you do is try to.

let the world know that you are the head. of the NFL PA. Now, Demory Smith had a. very difficult job. Very difficult job. Demory Smith being the head of the NFL. PA. I heard his first speech. >> What when were you drafted? >> Same. 09. >> Rookie Symposium. A week after we were. drafted in Jacksonville, I think. >> the Cali No, I think it was. Jacksonville. >> It was San Diego when I went. >> I think it was Jacksonville when we. went. I think it alternates. I think it. was Florida. I'm almost pretty sure I. saw Gator. We were doing a conditioning. test thing. >> I think it was I think it was in. Florida. He gave a speech though. This.

is the first time I'm hearing any union. person. >> Palm Beach Gardens, >> which Florida. Okay. Where's that at? >> Palm Beach. Like. >> South Florida. >> You know where Palm Beach is? Yeah. You. know, a lot of stuff happened down. there. >> Yeah. Didn't you just have a house in. West Hollywood, AJ, >> AJ? West Hollywood. >> Not a house in Florida, actually. No, never have. Anyways, I went down there. This guy gave a full speech about war. We're going to war with the NFL and yada. yada yada. We need this and gave a bunch. of quotes and all this [ __ ] And I'm. like, man, I didn't know that's how like. the best business was done. It's just.

like I'm going to punch somebody in the. face. And it's like, well, I guess they. feel that way as well. Inevitably, lockout happens. Um, they beat us in a. negotiation. Jeff Saturday allegedly has. to come in, get the deal done. Well, how'd the deal go? Well, it just got. done. You know, owners win yet again. They're going to be in the cities long. after the players are. They're going to. be billionaires long after these players. go broke. They have all the leverage we. lose. It's like, shouldn't we try to. just like do business with these people? Shouldn't Shouldn't we try to like, you. know, >> we need each other. We need each other. Absolutely. >> And there has to be other avenues to.

create money other than just your. negotiations with the NFL. Well, we have. licensing agreements with fanatics. Oh, how much do the players make? Oh, 30. cents a t-shirt. Oh, great deal. That's. a [ __ ] great deal. Way to really. negotiate that entire thing. Hey, I need. your help. I'm getting drug tested the. max amount of times every single month. for 27 straight months because I think. this guy hates me because he thinks I'm. lying. Yes, I'm hunting uh for Bigfoot. in Georgia. Yes, I'm hunting for gators. in Florida. Yes, I'm hunting for ghosts. in Louisiana. I'm tired of this guy. testing me everywhere I go. He thinks. I'm hiding, but I'm here every single. time. Can you guys help me? We'll call.

you back. Two years later, I got a call. back. You good, bro? No. I just took 230. tests in 27 months. Feels like I was. getting targeted a bit, but I want to. let you know I piss clean every single. time and I don't need your help anymore. I have a bad relationship with the NFL. Always have. And when they hired this. Lloyd How guy, I think to myself, this. guy's in the middle of a fraud case. right now. His previous company was in. the middle of the biggest, I think, payout in the history of something 350. some million. He was the finance guy for. this thing that was happening. They're. like, "Yeah, but we like that. We like. that he was doing that." So, I was like,

I think the signs were there, you know? I think the signs were there that this. potentially was not going to work out. well, but is it ever going to work out. well? That's kind of my question in the. entirety because immediate response is. we need this guy that's been in here for. 30 years. It's like. >> I don't think so. I I think you need. somebody. >> that is never the guy to do it. And it. was mentioned this morning. There's one. dude for this job. Perfect dude for this. job. And I don't think now granted this. is me like lobbying for him. I guess I'm.

sure there's other good people out. there. But this guy, he's dealt with. crisis management before. That was his. actual job. He was a former player, actual job at one point, career, long. career, and then he ran a team, was a. president of a team. Jason Wright, Jay. Wright is the right guy for this job, I. think, for the NFL PA. Crisis. management, ran a team, had to create. businesses, had to do his thing, and he. was a player at the same time. It's like. feels like he's the right guy for the. game, but I have no idea how much you. pay at that job. If I look at Demory.

Smith, he had six different suits at one. Super Bowl day that I saw him at. Imagine what the next day was and how. the whole thing goes. But it's a wild. situation with the NFLPA age. Legit, it's a wild situation. >> Well, JC Treader, too. JC Treader. resigning. So, I played with JC for a. year in Green Bay and then the fact that. he has to resign because of all of this. I I just I guess I didn't know how how I. don't know confusing and how unorganized. and how messed up the whole PA was until. all this stuff is. >> You didn't know that? >> I knew I knew the PA was not I I was not.

a gigantic fan of the PA ever. I never. said it was like smoothly run or hey. everything's going well. I just didn't. know it was this like I didn't know it. was this much in disarray I guess. >> I when did they decide to delay the. player performance bonuses? I forget. what year that was. We're going to delay. these bonuses to. >> to fill the war chest, right? >> Yeah. We're going to save these and. we're going to delay. We're going to pay. you in two years or whatever. I was. like, where's my money? That's a lot of. money. Where. >> who's making interest on that? Who gets. that interest? >> Who's using this? Who? Who's Oh, we're. just keeping it away for you for a later.

day. It's like, well, I [ __ ] want it. today. >> Yeah, I need it today. >> How about that? I'm about to go buy a. Dairy Queen. I'm about to go buy a. franch. going to Montreal. >> and that's what I'm going to do. So, it's just I never saw the the business. the same way they did. Let alone them. having their meetings in Hawaii. Remember that? >> Yeah. We're going in four seasons. Where. at? Aahu for what? NFL PA meetings. Two. weeks. >> Who's paying for that? We're making the players better. That. sounds like.

I can't I just couldn't I I just all of. I'm sure there's good people in there. I'm sure there's good people in there. and somebody within the NFL PA had to. point that this [ __ ] was happening. So. that gives me hope that at least there's. some people in there, but man, I think a. new vision would be a good idea. >> Yeah. I mean, it's a tough job. So I. >> And Tootsies, by the way, >> first Yeah. First of all, it's a great. restaurant. >> Good food. >> Good food. Overnight food. Yeah, you're. making like four or five $6 million. You. don't need to turn in a $700 receipt for. a car ride, though.

>> It's not a car ride. >> Well, you think his You think his family. wanted to see those room? >> Absolutely. They might have uh they might have a. spread of food like [ __ ] JJ W. Did. you see that post? JJ, is that his cheat. meal? You think he was acting like that? You think this was stayed overnight? >> I never had that. >> Maybe this is in the back. Maybe this. what Lloyd How was looking for?

>> Is he drinking all that liquid and all. of the syrup? All that down himself. >> Bad Lance's Booker was actually eating. breakfast with him, too. >> Call JJ. >> That's not That's not just for him, right? >> Get better. >> He was, is he not? >> That's That'll put He's on. Ladies and. gentlemen, joining us now, JJ. What? J. [Music]. [Applause]. >> What the hell? >> Looks sweet. >> What's happening? Sorry. What's.

happening? >> You tell me, dude. We uh Hey, real. quick. >> You don't know what breakfast is? That's. apparently what's happening. >> No. Okay. You were kind of alluding. By. the way, the hair was great. >> Yeah. Go back. >> I I did not expect the hair. Uh, you. were you alluding to that being a cheat. meal? What was this? Was your meal? This. is like a Dwayne Johnson type cheat meal. type. Just got done with my water. Now. we're doing this type. Is that what. you're doing here? Cuz that's how I took. it. >> I was alluding to nothing. I was just.

proud of the breakfast I made for a. little family gathering. My dad and I. put it together out on the Blackstone. and uh I was just proud of it. It looked. good. No illusions, no nothing. Just I. mean that that French toast down there. that's some cinnamon swirl French toast. >> I mean eggs were straight off the grill. I got a lot of people saying eggs had to. be cold. Eggs had those eggs were. straight off the griddle. Hot, fresh, ready. >> Okay. So, how many people ate this? >> Uh, six adults or Yeah, six adults.

Three kids. >> All right, that's a great breakfast. Hey, congratulations on making a great. breakfast cuz the way I write that was. vow play as if. >> you know. So I apolog I apologize. >> I mean five slices for myself on the. French toast alone. >> No big deal. No big deal. You made it. yourself. You should enjoy it. Chef. Watt. Uh congrats on espanol. >> That I missed the PA combo. I heard. there was a PA combo going on. >> Yeah. So you're that's how we got to. your breakfast here. Actually we thought. Lloyd How potentially in the back down.

there at Tootszie's got two of those. spreads. That's where all this money was. coming from. Especially cuz he stayed. overnight. Little early bird gets the. worm down there at Tootsies. Lloyd House. says, "Give me the JJ Watt. Cinnamon. swirl French toast egg spread down there. at Tootsies." Yeah, the disarray is uh a. bit of an understatement. AJ said he. wasn't the biggest fan of the NFL PA. throughout his career, but he was. surprised about how ridiculous this all. is. I think that's probably an accurate. way to depict it. How do you feel, Jage? >> Yeah, I mean I I have a similar thought.

I mean, I the PA is an extremely. difficult job because you're trying to. get the entire National Football League. on the same page fighting towards the. same cause. And you have to remember the. hardest part of it all is that it's 3.3. years or less. That's the average NFL. career. So, most of these guys are in. the league for three years or less. They. do not care about long-term goals of the. PA. They don't care about long-term. objectives. we want to play and we want. to get paid. And that's how I was as a.

rookie. I came in during the lockout and. they kept talking about all the big. picture things and everything and I was. like, "Guys, I don't care. I just want. to play." I my my pay Trent Williams got. drafted in the same slot the year before. me. Got a lot more money than I did. I. didn't care. I was like, "Put me on the. field and let me play." As I went in my. career and as I saw how this business. works, I started to understand, oh, there is a whole lot you should be. fighting for here. And there's a whole. lot that we could do if we all banded.

together and decided to use our. leverage. But I understand why we don't. because like I said, I was in that spot. So the number one objective of whoever. is going to lead this thing next, which. is a near impossible objective, >> is to get every single player on the. same page. Understand that you're. fighting for percentages of. multibillions and billions of dollars. Not for little practice things, not for. these little things. In the off season, in the OTAA days, you need to get. everybody on the same page and stand. together to fight for one massive goal.

But it's extremely hard to do because. guys just want to be on the field and. getting the paychecks, brother. >> Team on me. Team on three. 1 2 3. That's. what we need, J. That's what we need. >> 96. >> Are you going to lead it? And plus also. the bubble probably. Are you going to. lead it? >> You should. >> Uh, no. because I said like I I. literally don't know if somebody can do. it because you're you're fighting. against guys dreams. You're fighting. against everything they've worked their. whole life for. So you got all these. rookies and all these first and second.

year guys that have dreamt about this. moment and you're trying to get them to. stop it. You're trying to get them to. say, "No, I I don't need to play right. now. This is a bigger thing." And it's. really really hard to do. You've been to. those meetings. You schedule a meeting. for Wednesday after practice at the end. of a long day and it's 4:00 or 5:00 p.m. and you've been working your ass off. Everybody's bolting out of the building. They're not sitting there listening to. the PA guy talk about the 401k plan. Everybody wants gone. >> Yeah. I uh I actually didn't sign up for. the NFL PA the last two years of my.

career because I didn't want to sit in. those meetings. I I I cuz I felt. obligated to say something. Everybody's. tired. I'm don't need to be the one. holding up this entire meeting. >> Everything you said is [ __ ] Do you. have any questions? I don't I hate that. I'm here and then I just I stopped. going. So, I stopped signing up for it. and I missed out on a Madden check or. two, but at the end of the day, I feel. like I wanted to be a part of it because. it can be special. You talk about how. much leverage they have. Think about all. the businesses and I put this in my very. long tweet post about it. Think about.

how many businesses want to do business. with the NFL. It's like the players. association should be operating as an. agency for players getting more money. Money protection opportunities. That is. all we're looking for here for the. players. money protection and. opportunities. You should be able to act. and get deals done and you should be. able to I don't know. Jason writes the. right cap for it. Uh all right, Jage, we. appreciate you. >> Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. >> Hold on. >> Big family.

>> Congrat. >> Yeah. Me. >> Oh, boy. >> You Derek Te, Omar, Coach T, the Roies. We did it, brother. >> Congratulations. Huh? How do we feel? How do we feel? Come on. How's How's Tee feel? How do we. feel? Come on. Give it to me. about about the new jerseys. >> Those are. >> Did we see those yet? >> They're better than the bubble They're. better than the bumblebees. >> Okay. I hate them. Let's go to the next. one. >> From 1933. That's what jerseys look. like. >> All right. I hate them. Let's go to the. next one. That is cool. That is cool. looking. >> How do we feel? We're done. We got it.

done, huh? We did it. How do we feel? How Steve feel? >> Oh, I'm happy for him, man. He's. excited. He's extremely excited. It's uh. it's a very rare thing in today's NFL. So, it's really special. He's earned it. He deserves it. and uh couldn't couldn't. be more proud for him. >> Um, did you see how jacked he looked? >> His right arm. >> Has he gained weight? He looks huge. He. looks very jack. Has he changed anything. to Jage? >> Um, I mean, he's in a great spot. I know. he's I know he feels extremely good. He's been training his.

>> Is that a thigh? What the hell's hanging. off his right shoulder, man? >> Yeah, he's doing he's he's in a good. spot. He's really excited about camp. He's looking forward to being back with. the boys. It's going to be great. >> Herbic's awesome, man. Just. >> awesome. >> Great. Moxy, >> the guy that's with TJ in this. >> Herbic's great. Underrated. Herbic very. underrated. >> I hope Herbig has a massive year so that. the world gets to know him a little bit. better. He's a dog. TJ though looks. unbelievable. Unbeliev Congrats you. entire family. Uh I'm happy to hear that.

wasn't just a cheat meal for you. That. was for the whole group. And congrats on. Espanol. Congrats on Espanol. >> Did he learn to speak it? >> On Bet Poo. I am uh I'm I'm working on my Catalan. and Spanish. We got a we got a dual. language going on and I'm not fluent in. either. So, I'm working hard on both of. them. But yeah, we're very excited about. Espanol. It's going to be a lot of fun. Um going to make some trips to. Barcelona. We obviously are going to. make. >> Barcelona.

Bar. we'll we'll do a we'll do a McAfee boys. tour. We'll do Barcelona and we'll do. Burnley and then we'll uh swing through. the Berg and then. >> Yes. >> back home. >> That's actually not that bad. >> Sounds pretty sweet. >> So, we'll call it the B uh the B tour. Killer beast. >> We'll go through Barcelona, then to. Burnley, then to the Berg, and then. we'll come back home. You see Bad B. >> That'd be great. What? This team sucks. What are we doing? How's this? I never. heard of this team. I never heard of.

this team. Who? I'm I'm Hey, I don't. know what Let's Go is in Spanish. >> You were saying about Burnley about. Burnley. We're all Don't worry. >> Vamos Espanol. This is my team now. What? What? What league are we in? We're. in the super duper league over there. >> La Liga. La Liga. >> Same as real. >> Same as. Barca. >> Hold on. For now. >> We're We're here. >> Aren't we normally Don't we want to. live? Don't we want to do this one and. then get to here and then we you bought.

we're here. >> Hey. Hey. You just you just lead conc. All right. You just you go to the. quarterfinals on a yearly basis. Have. your semis. Have your trip. >> semi. We got here. >> Make sure you're asking for more money. from Man City for that goalie of yours. They just got a billion dollar deal from. Puma. >> Yeah. Puma just gave him all the money. And you're not the first person that. Gumpy has told that you need to get more. money from Puma. He was telling Tyrese's. Hallebertton that on Friday. Have you. seen this? Holding his phone up. You. need to renegotiate with Puma.

immediately. They got a lot of money. Uh. Vamos Espanola. That's my team in La. Liga. I guess. >> is that their catchphrase? Yes. >> What's their What's that? >> Glad Glad to have you aboard. We'll uh. we'll get some kits over to the boys. soon. We got the blue and white in. Spain. We got the Clarit and Blue in. England. >> What's the chant? Vamus. >> Vamus. >> Working on learning it. Working on. learning it. >> I don't even know the chant. What's. their mascots? Is it the clarits too? >> Uh, we are the parakeetses. >> Parakeets like parakeetses you guys.

>> What the [ __ ] a parakeet? >> Little bird. >> That's a canary, I believe. >> Oh, yeah. >> Same thing. >> Don't parakeets teach them to speak. >> like Twitter. That's a parakeet. >> Uh, that's a that's just a bird, I. think. >> You mean like. >> Well, it's dead now, I guess. >> We got a beautiful stadium over there. Got a beautiful stadium. I think we. should try and get an NFL game in in RCD. Stadium. >> How much you pay? Put together a bid. You're the owner. >> Putting that out in the universe. Putting that out in the universe right. now. >> Okay. So, how many people are in on. this? We know dude was perfect. Was in.

Burnley. >> Yeah. >> Is it same group buying this one? >> Yeah, same group. Alan Pace leads the. group. He's he's doing a great job for. us. He's incredible what he does. Um he. bought Burnley and now um has purchased. Espanol. And we got a great great. organization, great system. It's a lot. of fun. >> Who's Alan Pace? >> He's the head of our group. He does a. great job. He's he runs the dayto-day of. everything Burnley and Espananiel. >> Yeah, but.

>> what do you do beforehand, though? You. don't just fall to the position of. buying teams for Tyler and JJ Watt. >> He's a very He's a very smart. businessman. He's a very smart. businessman. >> We need his ass at the NFL PA. He needs. to stop buying up Espanol. We need his. ass over there for the players. All. right. We appreciate you. Ladies and. gentlemen, JJ Wall. >> Yeah, JJ. >> He didn't really compliment TJ's arms. much, did he? >> No, he didn't like that. >> cuz he's I bet you he's probably. >> They're not that big. >> He's angling there. >> TJ's doubled his career earnings, too.

So, it's like I saw that that. >> which by the way, thank God for the NFL. PA. >> Mhm. >> Yep. >> They did it. >> They did it. They did it. >> Mhm. >> Why is that guy just like to buy poopy. teams in soccer? >> Yeah. I don't know, Gumpy. You would. have to You would know this better than. us. I thought if you buy them like Rexom. did, Rob Mack and uh boys down there at. the bottom and then it climbs up, it. gains value, then you try to sell that. [ __ ] off whenever you go up, right? Like. that's business plan if you're only. looking at as a business as opposed to a. team that you love. Feels like JJ. actually like loves Burnley, too. Like.

very much so. You can see him get a. little heat whenever we start bringing. up how Burnley's doing. Feels like he's. attached to them. >> But business-wise, he's bought both of. these teams now when they're at the top. leagues. That's interesting than what. I've ever heard. Right. Is that. different or no? I think with where he. bought Espanol, they finished 14th in La. Liga. So if you make the Conference. League or the Europa League in UEFA now, you'll get so much money. And the way La. Liga works, there's only kind of the big. dog. So if you can get into that top. eight, you're getting a shitload of. money. >> Okay. So Allan Pace was like, I got eyes.

on Espanel. >> Could they play Do they ever play each. other? How's this work? I don't get it. >> Well, they could get in Champions. League. >> They could. >> Yeah. Right. If they make it to the very. top, they could they could face each. other. >> Top four in each league, right? >> Top four. And then there's also Europa. League and Conference League as well. So, if you finish like top eight in your. league, you'll get into one of those. tournaments. >> And there's a chance Espanol and Burnley. are dancing with each other in the JJ. Waffle. >> Yeah, >> I would say more Espanol than Burnley. But yes, >> you think Espanol is ahead of schedule? >> Espanol is a historic team in Spain.

They've been around forever. >> Well, so is Burnley, right? Burnley is. like very old. Is this kind of JJ's. thing? Like, hey, here's a good brand. Cool brand. Maybe this is the one that. we latch our rah wagon to. >> Yeah, Burnley signed Kyle Walker too. from my pretty big signing. One of the. greatest right backs in England history. >> If they do like a top. >> Yeah, they're doing like a methy type. thing with Burnley. >> Love that. >> Yeah. Which I like an MLS type, right? Isn't that kind of how they're doing? They're getting some legends over there. >> Yeah. >> Like older legends coming to Burnley. >> Up the clarettes. >> Okay.

>> I like that. >> Like Maurice. >> I like Maurice. >> And the jug that Scotty drinks out. I. don't know. Scotty probably didn't party. last night. He just flew home. >> I appreciate it. He put that thing down. He gets it. Puts it down. Goes and gives. his speech. Certainly supposed to hold. that while you're giving a speech. without a doubt. >> That thing's sitting on a table next to. him. He's got hands on hips. >> Yeah. Thank you all so much. Turns out checks. his notes. Yeah. [ __ ] hit everybody. >> Obviously, this guy's unbelievable, is. he not? >> He's a freak. He And I guess he for him.

I just wonder what's going through his. mind because he he is I look at him like. I looked at Tiger when Tiger was. rolling. Of course he's going to win. Of. course the guy doesn't feel any. pressure. Of course like he's going to. hit like the first hole. Like we said. his second shot goes to like three feet. and he taps in for birdie to start the. whole tournament or the whole final day. Like I don't know. Like the guy's just. not human right now. It's it's. ridiculous. >> Yeah. He's unconscious. But then he is. more human than he's ever been. He's. like giving more human answers than. we've ever heard before from him and. giving answers that we've never heard. before from the the top of the top. You.

know, the way everybody talks about the. intensity and everything, the way they. view it and the mindset you have to have. to be great, to conquer all these. mountains that you have to conquer every. single day to become this damn good in. this big of a moment. It's like you got. to be a real dog. He is a real dog. Scotty Sheffler is a psycho. I I would. like everybody to understand that. >> Scotty Sheffller whenever it comes to. golf for his entire life has been a. psycho about it. >> Had to be. >> Had to be to get to this point. >> And the ability to be able to manage. that and still be. >> who he is. I think golf is the perfect.

sport for that type of attitude. Obviously, obviously Tiger was a little. bit different, but like how he's been. able to do that. Even when he was. getting arrested at his tournament, this. he's number one player in the world. It's his tournament that he's showing up. at. Basically, he's getting arrested. He's like, "Where are we?" Okay. Just. like completely cool as opposed Imagine. if that was I don't want to start saying. everybody's names. Imagine Pton Manning. gets arrested driving to a playoff game. outside of the stadium. You think Payton. would be cool with everything, how.

everything would just go. Think about. Tiger in the same situation having that. happen to him, what he would be like. Wayne Gretzky, I think maybe coolest. goat that we've heard in a long time. If. he was to get stopped right outside, I. think that would affect you a little. bit. He just no big deal. I'm a stretch. in jail. Actually, it's just like. obviously he's a very man full of faith. and everything like that. and he says, you know, a lot about the Lord and Jesus. Christ and everything, which I respect. and appreciate, but here on earth having. to deal with all the adversity that he's. having to deal with while leaning on. that. I nothing but a hats off. I we are.

lucky to be around while this guy is. around. I don't know how long this. lasts. I have no idea how long seems. like maybe forever. >> Hopefully. >> He fooled me this weekend. I thought, you know, when he was talking all the. deep [ __ ] because you mentioned it, you. know, talk about all the greats Payton, Tom, Jordan, Tiger Woods, like they. weren't speaking on any of this. they. just spoke on dominating and killing the. the opposition. So, for him to be having. those deep answers going into it, do we. have the video? Yeah, >> okay, let's go to it. >> It feels like you work your whole life.

to celebrate. winning a tournament for like a a few. minutes. It only lasts a few minutes, that kind of euphoric feeling. And like. to win the Byron Nelson Championship at. home, I literally worked my entire life. to become good at golf, to have an. opportunity to win that tournament. And. you win it. You celebrate. Get to hug. hug my family. My sister's there. It's. such an amazing moment. And then it's. like, okay, now now what are we going to. eat for dinner? You know, life goes on. This there's traffic outside. We got to. win. It.

>> is it great to be able to win. tournaments and to accomplish the things. I have in the game of golf yet. I mean. it it brings tears to my eyes just to. think about because it's. literally worked my entire life to. become good at this sport and to have. that kind of sense of accomplishment I. think is is a pretty cool feeling you. know to get to live out your dreams is. very special but at the end of the day. it's like I'm not out here to inspire. the next generation of golfers I don't. I'm not here to inspire somebody else to. be the best player in the world because. what's the point you know this is not a. fulfilling. >> don't do it. >> life it's it's fulfilling from the sense.

of accomplishment but it's not. fulfilling from a sense of like the. deepest, you know, places of your heart. You know, there's a lot of people that. make it to what they thought was going. to fulfill them in life and then you get. there and all of a sudden you get to. number one in the world and then they're. like, "What's the point?" And, you know, I I really do believe that because, you. know, what is the point? You're like, "What? Why do I want to win this. tournament so bad?" That's something. that I wrestle with on a daily basis. It's like showing up at the Masters. every year. It's like, why do I want to. win this golf tournament so badly? Why. do I want to win the open championship.

so badly? I don't know because if I win, it's going to be awesome for about two. minutes. >> and then we're going to get to the next. week and it's going to be like, "Hey, you won two majors this year. How. important is it for you to win the FedEx. Cup playoffs?" And it's just like we're. we're back here again, you know? Um so. we really do we work so hard for such. little moments and um you know, I'm kind. of a sicko. I I love putting in the. work. I love being able to practice. I. love getting out to live out my dreams, but at the end of the day, sometimes I. just don't understand the point, you. know, because.

I I don't know if I'm making any sense. or not, but um am I not? It's just it's. just one of those deals, you know. I I. love the challenge. I love being able to. play this game for a living. It's it's. one of the greatest joys of my life, but. does it fill the deepest, you know, wants and desires of my heart? Absolutely not. Um. >> what do you find fulfilling? >> I mean, I love playing golf. I love. being able to compete. I love living out. my dreams. Um I love being a father. I. love being able to take care of my son. I love being able to provide for my.

family out here playing golf. And um you. know, every day when I wake up early to. go put in the work, you know, my wife. thanks me for going out and working so. hard. And when I get home, I try and. thank her every day for taking care of. our son. It's just, >> you know, that's why I talk about. families being my priority because it. really is. You know, I'm blessed to be. able to come out here and play golf, but. >> if my golf ever started affecting my. home life or it ever affected the. relationship I have with my wife or with. my son, you know, that's going to be the. last day that I play out here for a. living. you know, this is not the beall. end all. This is not the most important.

thing in my life. And that's why I. wrestle with why is this so important to. me? Because, you know, I would much. rather be a great father than I would be. a great golfer. You know, that at the. end of the day, that. that's what's more important to me. When. I sit back at the end of the year and, you know, I kind of try to reflect on. things like having that sense of. accomplishment from winning the Masters. tournament, from winning the PGA. Championship. I have a deep sense of. gratitude and appreciation for it. But. it's just hard to explain how it doesn't. it just doesn't satisfy is is how I.

would describe it. It's an unsatisfying. venture. And so I guess what I what I'm. trying to say is this is not this is not. the place to look for your satisfaction. And this is something that's where you. can have a great appreciation for and a. great um. like a great amount of thankfulness for. being able to do this and it's I mean. like I said it's it's literally one of. the most fun things that I can do in my. entire life. I love being able to come. out here and play golf and compete but. at the end of the day it's just not what. satisfies me. >> He says all that before winning the.

open. He says all that before winning. the open whenever golf is an in between. the ears game more so than any other. sport because of you know if you miss by. that much it's a shank. It's a whole. different tournament. You got to hit the. thing pure every single time to know. where you're going. And I am at a much. different level than Scotty Sheffler at. all things. Being a human, it sounds. like being a father, being a husband. He. checked all the boxes in there about. how, hey, whenever we prioritize what's. important at this stage in life. Now, if. you were to ask him at 18, okay, it's. vastly different now. He's generated a.

lot of capital. He understands what's. available. He understands what life is. At this stage of my life, if you were to. ask me what's important, it's this and. this. Now, this being great is amazing. thing. And there were some people that. took it negatively and that's always. going to happen. I think what Scotty. Sheffller just said was incredibly. profound. Yeah. I think it was amazing. to hear the insight of what it's like to. be one of the greatest of all time at. something. And at a much smaller level, whenever I talked to Jim Essie about. retiring, I told him I was like I. thought cuz I didn't really know how to. punt when I got drafted to the NFL. So. my entire chase was like, I want to. become the best in the world at this. I.

want to figure out how I can become the. best at this, best at this, the best at. this. I want to get better for my team. every day work. Every decision I was. making was like, am I going to be a. better punter or a worse punter because. of this? Can I kick balls further. because of this? And then I finally get. to the point where I think I don't want. to speak out of pocket here, but I think. everybody kind of realized that I became. the best in the world at my jobs. I was. doing multiple uh kick kicking off, punting, and holding. We almost had two. perfect seasons. So, like I think all. those things I got to the point where. some would consider me the best in the. world at it. And I got up there and I.

was like, I thought I'd feel different, you know? I feel still still get. diarrhea, you know, still have traffic. Uh. >> my power still goes out of my house. Uh. plumbing's still an issue. I still have. all these problems that I thought were. just going to disappear if I became. great at it. And I was very confused by. that. I said that to Jim. I was like, that was a tough thing for me to kind of. grasp because this thing that I was. chasing was vastly different whenever I. got there than what I thought it was. going to be. And Jim immediately he had.

a vape. His vape smoke was going out. >> He could have been a professional. >> cloud. >> vape blower. I think the amount of. smoke. >> He said he was talking to one of the. Beatles. I think it was Ringo Star. He. said I was talking to Ringo brother and. he said they got all the way up to the. top and they just stayed up there and at. some point you're at the top of the. mountain. You look around and you go. this view isn't as good as it was. Why. did I. This view is nowhere near what I thought. it was going to be. Whenever I was. puking on the way up here, when I was.

sacrificing my entire life on the way up. here, when I was giving up friendships, when I was giving up moments, I get all. the way to the top of the mountain cuz. this is what we were trying to get to. And the view is not worth it. Just not. worth it. So now what do you do? Well, now you just got to hang out up there. and look at something that you almost. feel is like a regret because this is. what you chose to focus on. And he said, "But what the people at the top of the. mountain forget is that there was a time. when he couldn't see that view. and the. view kind of gets lost behind the. mountain and then every once in a while. you see a reset. People kind of get. reset. You get dropped back down and. then all of a sudden it's like, wait a.

second, that view wasn't that bad. Then. you come back. And he said it's very. natural in like people's lives. So I. wonder if that'll happen for Scotty. inevitably. I'm not saying it's going to. happen anytime soon. Obviously he's. incredible, but inevitably it feels like. whenever you get to the top of the. mountain, you're not always going to be. able to remain fulfilled. You're not. always going to be remain s uh. satisfied. Everybody has to find. something to continue to work for. That's why like Nick Sabin whenever he. wakes up every day, Bill Bich every day, that Mamba mentality at a Koba Kobe. every day, it's unique. It is a very, very unique thing that I think a lot of.

people from a lot of different fields. struggle with. And I think Scotty's in. the middle of it like I've sacrificed my. entire life to be this guy and it's. amazing. And then all of a sudden, ah, Bennett just blew up his diaper. Okay, we needed some wet wipes here. We need. to move on. I'm still a human. I've. loved everything he said. >> Yeah, it was perfect. And that's why I. think a lot of people, you know, find. other things like, you know, like even. like Ayiawaska to find like, okay, what's the true meaning of this? But. like when you have, you know, you have. kids and, you know, you reach all those. different pinnacles, whether it's. drafted, whether it's signing a $100.

million deal or doing whatever it is, and then you realize, okay, there are. things that are much more fulfilling. But you rarely hear that from a guy. that's entering his prime. Like dude, like 29, like you you heard like Kobe, God rest his soul. like he was that guy. kind of towards the end of his career. after he was done. But it's usually when. guys are old and washed up and it's kind. of behind him. They're looking back. You. rarely hear guys speaking like that when. they are at the pinnacle. Um so I I love. everything about what he's doing, you. know, obviously, you know, on the course. and then off the course as well. I think.

it's a great message not only to. athletes, but just to everybody. >> I think so too. And AJ, do you think. this is potentially a little mental game. he's playing with himself? >> Uh I think it's. >> like, hey, this ain't that important. >> Yes, >> for sure. I think it's hugely. beneficial, especially as a golfer. because think of I think that frees them. up to go out there and play because like. what's the worst that can happen? I'd. lose this tournament. Cool. I still got. my awesome life outside of this. And we. know golf like look at the stress that. these guys are under every single shot. Like say you're a dude that's a stud but. you're trying to get your first major or. whatever and you have the lead heading. into the last like the last day. You.

have to sleep on the lead and tee off at. 3 p.m. Like the amount like just golf is. a sport where you have to be free. You. have to feel like you can you can let it. go. And I feel like Scotty because of. his mindset, because of his perspective, it g like it frees him up. He's like, "Hey man, like yeah, I work my ass off. all day every day, but I understand this. isn't who I am, but yeah, it's awesome. Why don't I How about I just become I'll. be the best dad and husband and the best. golfer in the world. Let's see how many. years I can make that go.". >> Well, and Jordan Speed saying he's able. to turn it off when he goes home and. everything like that. That's rare. Like.

this dude's a rare this a rare mindset. that people at the top have. And it. might be a mental game, you know, to. minimize golf in his eyes. like, hey, we. already have it all, you know, and the. Nike ad was sick. You've already won. >> So dope, >> but another major is nice or whatever it. is. It's like, it certainly is. That. mindset in golf can be a very, you know, weaponizing. That could be a very good. one. Knowing that, hey, alternate plans. here, go hang out with my kid. That's. not a bad little fallback plan. But you. talk about uh the guys trying to make. it, how nerve-wracking it all is. There. was stats came out, obviously, we all.

saw it. I think we posted in the first. hour. That's 10 consecutive Sundays he's. had to lead going into the day and he. ends up winning. Only 27 more straight. to catch Tiger Woods now. He's not even. 30 years old, so this could happen. Right. Tiger had 37 consecutive Sundays. where he woke up with the lead and ended. up winning. That's unbelievable. >> He was an assassin. >> Yeah. That's why that red shirt meant. something. You know, when that red shirt. showed up, it's like this dude's either. catching up cuz Saturday was moving day. Okay. So, we're either catching up or. we're taking a lead. And then Sunday,

what are we doing? We're watching this. jungle cat prowl this grass and mow down. everybody. And it was like he 37. straight times. Scotty only at 10. Now. that's he's young so he's going to have. to catch up. But it is crazy once you. start putting the Tiger records in. It's. like if Scotty's able to do this for. another 15 years, okay, there's the. chance he can catch him. But that's what. golf is. Golf is a very much like a. 50-year-olds can play professionally. Even [ __ ] 60 year olds can play. professionally. It's a good sport. whenever it comes to that. >> Yeah. Tiger also had 11 majors um at the.

same age that Scotty is right now. But. Tiger like when we're talking the men. >> what. >> 11 majors? >> Yeah, Tiger had 11 at 28. >> But then he had you know he had that. decade where you know some things. happened and he didn't like so Scotty if. Scotty in his 30 just. >> driver back window of his SUV. >> that glass shattered hit him in the head. from the driver to he was at a driving. range. >> Mhm. >> Took the driver back like this. There's. a car Yeah. Like I did with that that.

TV. >> Yep. In the old. >> I think that's something like that. But. Tiger mentally like I feel like Tiger's. like, you know, like Kobe, like Jordan, like Tom, like like guy like Payton, like guys that are just wired even. Yeah. Wired to be the greatest of all. time. I don't I don't feel like Scotty's. wired like that. And I feel like him. trying to get away from golf is better. cuz we've seen runs like this with like. Spath and and Rory and Brooks and they. where they won four or five majors but. then like it did feel like mentally it. got to them and they I mean it took Rory.

10 more years and Sp hasn't won again. and Brooks hasn't won again but it does. feel like if able to get away. >> I'm going to admit because of everything. you just talked about mentally when I. heard him give that answer just like. >> that was out. >> Yeah. I said I don't know. I don't know. if this weekend's the weekend for him. feels like he's thinking about too much. and then it turns out looking back on it. it's like no he's thinking about the. right things. He he was he was thinking. about all the right things going in. >> Is he ever gonna lose? >> I think and like you mentioned it. earlier and it's it's no [ __ ] I. think you almost he almost has to frame. it that way because it hasn't been since.

Tiger where if you see him playing. there's an immediate expectation like oh. he's going to win like and and you don't. get that with anybody else. So it's like. you start to feel that pressure. It's. like, hey, if I'm in the field, like. look at the look, you you go on any. book, like his odds to win are so much. better than everyone else's. If he's. playing in a tournament, the expectation. is he might not go wire to wire, but he. is winning this tournament. So like even. if you are as good as he is, like you. could see how that would eventually kind.

of get to you a little bit. >> Scotty, we appreciate you. Congrats. >> Congrats on the open. Now he's a US Open. away from the Grand Slam. We assume. that'll come at some point this this. weekend. probably. >> Yep. >> This past weekend, we saw some filthy. football. >> The NFL flag championship took place. this weekend and there were some great. highlights. Debbut, did you see what the. boy from the Bills did? Did you see what. the boy from the Bills did? Ladies and. gentlemen, Brady Vaughn Stiller to Shawn.

Finnegan to win the game. Bobbles the. snap. Oh [ __ ] he's down there. somewhere. Yes, he is. Shawn Finnegan. goes up to catch the Hail Mary. Big win. for the Bills squad over there at the. NFL Flag Championships. Now, there was. another highlight right down the. sideline. One-handed grab. How you. doing? Keep it moving. This is from. Jaylen Pagguero. >> Give me that fingertip catch. Now, a lot. of people are saying the gloves are. great nowadays. That's not Jaylen's.

fault. No, >> that is not his fault at all. What a. grab. What a snag. What a play. Shout. out to Jaylen Paguero. And then the. highlight of the weekend, this dude is. gonna be a West Virginia Mountaineer. Bryson Wright. >> Give me that. Of the Jacksonville. Jaguars, Liam Cohen is trying to get him. on the actual Jacksonville Jaguars. >> Oh my god, >> what a catch. Unbelievable. Inverted. Okay, the right hand invert catch is a. filthy catch all by itself. If you're.

standing there playing catch with. somebody and you have gloves on or if. you're able to do it without gloves, the. right-handed over top snag will steal. the show. Okay? If you do, need a good. throw to be able to do it. But if you do. that, just playing catch, people will be. like, "Holy [ __ ] what a catch. That's. filthy." Cuz the amount of power you. have to have in your hands to beat. gravity and the force of it throwing and. the the dexterity to find the tip of the. ball. Yes, I was very good at this. This. one right here because it was a holding.

You know, that thing's right there. Always looked much better and harder. than it actually was once you figure out. how to do it. Then to dive over a guy. for a touchdown while that pin is being. thrown from 50 yards or or 20 yards, 30. yards away. >> That's nasty. That is absolutely filthy. This kid's 15 16 years old. 15 16. >> highlights hit the internet. >> This dude is unbelievable. 62. What is. he? I saw 6'2 200 pounds as a four high. school. >> 15 years old already holds offers from.

LSU Ohio State Alabama and I would like. to say shout out to Hayes Faucet by the. way he does great work over there uh on. on three uh I would like to say Bryson. Wright congrats on scholarship offer for. West Virginia University. >> Wow. >> Official. >> Yeah. Official. >> Okay. >> I don't know if I can do that and I did. not ask Rich Rodriguez if that was cool. Coach Rod. Uh but I would like to say. Bryson, >> you officially have an offer from West. Virginia University, brother. Uh, I have. no idea what the NIL thing's going to be. four years from now when you graduate. high school or two years uh from now.

when you graduate high school. But just. know if you want to come to Morgantown. brother and do a couple of high or a. couple of those, we'd love to have you. sophomore in high school. >> It's crazy. >> How about that Atinson kid? He's going. to play high school right now. That. Atkinson kid that was here. How about uh. Manny over there in Maryland? >> Yeah. Bingo. >> That offensive lineman. >> All these guys that we're watching and. some of them were lucky enough to be a. part of their commitments, which is such. a cool thing. These dudes are adults, bro. And they're handling business like. adults off the field as well. I have. massive respect for this next generation.

of footballers. >> I saw he led his uh his football team. last year as a freshman in receiving uh. in yards. And one of the guy who was in. second was a fivestar who went to I. think Texas or Ohio State or something. like that this year. So. >> I thought this kid's from Pennsylvania. >> Is he? >> I don't. >> Yeah. No, he's he's a mass guy. He moved. down. >> He's from Massachusetts. No, he is not. >> He's a mask guy. moved down to Florida. Um I I believe right after you learned. >> AJ what I mean think about this as a. sophomore in high the kid that's on.

defense. Yeah. Right. >> Not even fair to think this kid's going. to be playing against high school kids. here in a couple weeks. >> I mean the kid covering him and his rout. plays left tackle for his local Mandarin. in Florida. >> Three guys covering on that particular. play. They all passed off. Smart play. You you you zoning flag. >> I mean yeah if this dude's on the field. zone double T whatever the hell you can. do. This is I mean this is unbelievable. You talked about these and he's not at. this point yet, but these young kids. sounding and and speaking and carrying. themselves like grown ass men. We all.

talked about and expected and everything. is blown up about the negative part of. the NIL. But every young guy that we've. kind of come across, whether it's Ryder. Lions or or Atinson who was in here, like you're talking to them, you're. having conversation with them, they. sound like grown ass well way mature, more mature than I was at 17 or 18 years. old. It's unbelievable. >> And then you're making plays like that. >> Uh that that's why the eighth grader. scholarship thing like you it sounds. insane and then you see some of these. kids and what they can do on a football.

field or you know on a basketball court, whatever it is. And then it makes sense. why these kids get offered 30. scholarships when they're in eighth. grade cuz they are clearly head and. shoulders. >> Shout out to the NFL flag championship. too. >> There was highlights all over the place. A lot of great football happening. AJ, do the boys play yet. >> and daughters play? They had a girls uh. flag tournament as My daughter wants to. play actually. She she's big into. basketball, but yeah, she's played a. little bit back when she was younger, but that I mean girl, we know girls flag. football is becoming huge, but obviously. boys as well. This is what they do. Like. there's high school circuits where you. travel around and you have these.

all-star teams like you're an AA team. going around playing flag football. >> Great for the game. And uh the girls. high school flag football uh mission was. the Super Bowl commercial that I was. lucky to be a part of. I think it has. been commissioned in a lot of states. I. think it has been made an official. That's great for the sport. That's great. for a lot of these towns. That's great. for obviously a whole generation of. girls growing up, you know, watching. And I don't I don't want to like, you. know, always make it about Taylor Swift, but like Taylor Swift has welcomed a lot.

of people into football. Having an. opportunity to play football as well at. the same time, it's perfect for the. sport. And think about what flag. football can be uh can be. It can be. worldwide. >> Yeah. >> All you need is some flags in a ball. >> Yeah. It's in the Olympics already, but. you're talking about like that can. really. >> on the collegiate level. Getting. scholarships like that'll be a thing. >> Absolutely. >> It's not going to take over tackle. football. That's what every old tackle. football fan says. That's what Roger. Goodell wants to No. No. Different. sports. Different sports. Got to keep.

those things different. We'll continue. digitally. YouTube, ESPN Plus, Disney. Plus, and Tik Tok Live. Be a friend. Tell a friend something nice about. change our life. We'll see you tomorrow. Goodbye. >> Really hit that one fresh out of break. there. >> Yeah. Yeah. Big time. >> It's been a good summer for us. >> Mhm. Great sound, >> dude. I a lot of I've seen the tweets in. the mentions about you guys used to. never take this many days off. We agree. It's been great. >> Yeah, >> it has been, hasn't it? >> Without a doubt. >> It's awesome. Oh my god. We're living. >> Yeah, >> we are living. We are humans right now,

AJ. It has been. >> I saw you hitting good hitting bombs on. the golf course actually. Training. putts, huh? Look at you. >> Or was that a brother? I've been golfing. a little bit. I've been golfing a little. bit. I play I played three rounds this. year. Uh, I hadn't played in two years. obviously, but even having the capabil. now three rounds I played nine holes, I. played 13 holes, and I played 18 holes. Walk the 18 holes though. >> Walked 18. >> Walk 18. >> You played great. >> Was given no other option. What you. interesting little. >> Those nice places tend to do that. >> No, there was carts.

>> Oh, really? >> The person I was golfing with. >> I was in a cart. >> The person I was golfing with. >> You didn't walk? >> No. Set up the carts. >> What is that about? the the person that. I was golfing with set up the carts and. was like, "You guys can use the carts.". An immediate alpha type move. >> It was awesome. >> And it's like, "I'll [ __ ] walk." Are. you walking? Is that what I just heard? He goes, "Yes, I'm walking, but you guys. use the cart." I'm like, "I'll walk, dude." He goes, "You don't have to. I. walk out here every day." I'm like, "I.

will walk." So I walked and I'll tell. you what, whole six those blisters really started, you know, all those shoes. I had Jay's. on too. So uh and I've only played three. rounds in two years. These things not. really. I started getting blisters on. the feet about sixth hole or so. Legs. started getting real lactic acidy around. like 13. I mean, you're hiking these. things. >> But did you feel one with the court? >> I did. And I also played better. >> Okay. >> And it kept me more locked in. >> I enjoyed it actually. I would like to.

do that every time I golf. But And it. wasn't that long of a round. >> That's the thing. Three hours. >> Play. We played very fast. >> It was very, very fast. That's the. >> It was good though. It was really It was. I've been playing pretty good golf, AJ. Pretty good golf. You don't move your. feet. I try to be Scotty Sheffller, but. can't be, I guess. >> No, I just can't be Scotty Sheffler. So, I've been keeping the feet still, you. know, and that's really changed a lot of. my game. >> Literally, all I focus on is don't move. your feet cuz last time, you know, cuz. I'm all flexible. I'm out here. >> Yeah. Sure. >> You know, I'm digging in.

>> Yeah. >> You still coming out of the pocket? >> I'm ready to do it. >> Yeah. >> What you see is cuz I've watched. >> Are you Kyle Was. >> Kiwas? So so much Kiwa Shallow. I've. been watching I think feel verse real. Two different things. But I think just. osmosisly uh. >> watching Kiwa Shallow's techniques I. think it's starting to. >> You look like it's Kia Shallow. >> Yeah. Thank you. This one I'd take you. over Kia any day. >> You're playing do not. >> He's a good player. I I would say that's. a bad play. >> I I played hold with him. Yeah.

>> So, you know what? You know what he has. that I don't? >> A hammer. >> Whoa. >> Gimmick. CJ. >> Unbelievable. This guy's unbelievable. What are you saying? >> Yeah, I would assume. >> he could throw it over his shoulder. By. the way, this guy hits a golf ball. >> I understand. I'm not taking any. offense. Unbelievable. But with that. being said, >> he does have a hammer. We can tell by.

the way. Yeah. >> I could tell everything about there. He. is with his hammer actually. And that's. small. He's actually pretty comfortable. with that in his hands. This guy has. helped me out immensely just by. watching. He should be charging for. these videos cuz that's what I used to. do right there. You ever use your hammer. like this? Absolutely not. That's not. how I swing that thing. Use your hammer. like this, he says. And I get the driver. in my hands and then bang, baby draw. just like he was shallow and. miss. >> Oh, gone. See you.

>> into the night sky. >> Perfect. Perfect shot. And the reason. why I didn't put the tracker on is cuz. that green tree line in the back is the. perfect background for that ball to fly. perfectly. >> out there. He knows the distance of his. clubs. You see, >> I had a lot of that. We're 107 yards. out. I got a 54 in here. I got a W in here. I. got a 60 degree in here. Where how the. [ __ ] far do these go? No idea. Let's. find out on the course with real shots. So doing a lot of that ear to ear. >> couple. I thought to myself, Kez.

thousand times [ __ ] ear to ear, buddy. And I thought to myself, what. does full swing go? >> I have no idea. >> Ear to ear swing. I have no clue. >> Just got to play more. >> Yeah, we don't have Actually, we have. had. been pretty. >> The way you played, you should play. more. >> Yeah. And you should play with a caddy. every time. >> Yeah, Steve was a dog. >> That was my first time ever playing with. a caddy. I That was awesome. I love that. experience. >> Steve was great. Steve was uh Steve was. a caddy there. Are we supposed to say.

the name of the place? >> I think you can. >> Yeah, you definitely could. >> Okay, so we played some places you're. not supposed to. >> No, this isn't that. That's just one. place. That's Yeah, just. >> It was the nicest golf course I've ever. played in my life. We should probably. say it. >> Riviera. We played a Riviera over there. in I think Los Angeles somewhere. >> Yeah. >> I have no idea where we were. For all I. know is everywhere is 2-hour drive. >> Santa Monica. I think it was. >> I think I put it in the GPS. It's in the. Palisades area. >> Mhm. >> Okay. Yes. >> Beautiful course. >> Very, very, very, very nice course. Very. nice course. >> Perfect weather, I assume.

>> Perfect weather. Great sun. I mean, it. was a perfect day to be honest out. there. >> Little wind transfusions. >> It wasn't busy. >> Yeah, it was it was very nice, dude. It. was very nice. The dog. >> and then you're watching Ari Gold. >> play golf. >> Oh, yeah. Okay. >> He's a player. >> Yeah. Yeah. That's That's a big one. Oh, is he? I I would assume he's very good. >> Very good. >> So good. Okay. >> I think par. >> at that course. >> Yes. >> Really? >> I now. >> probably just never in trouble. Probably. never hits any bad shots. I'm guessing. he's just always. >> his driver. He has this like really.

patient swing is what I'll call it. Just. like up high. >> and then boom, right through 285. Right. >> Perfect draw with it. >> Dang. Okay. >> Good tempo. 285. Yeah. Not a big. >> mayor tempo time. >> at all. Yeah. Tempo is his thing. I I. think that would kind of be it. Yes. And. then he gets his iron in his hands. It's. like can't have touch this thing. And. then he's. >> Mhm. >> two up in it and he's birdie putting. basically every hole. Yes. And it's just. two putts. >> It's unbelievable. Because Early wanted. to talk [ __ ] He wanted to talk [ __ ] to.

me. He said I didn't know how to put a. ball in a tea because there's a breeze. and knocked it off. >> So then I put the ball back on tea. He. goes, "You only teach how to put a ball. in a [ __ ] tea?". >> I go, "I know how to put a ball in a. [ __ ] tea." And then I [ __ ] nuked. one. Great time to nuke one. Yep. That. was on the first te there. So that that. that held him off for a moment, you. know? That held him off. Then he started. teaching me how to putt, but we wanted. to talk [ __ ] to him. I wanted to talk. [ __ ] to him back. That's all I went out. there for. It's like I would like to. talk [ __ ] Couldn't [ __ ] never. He had two bad shots. Like a par three,

he like pulled one into the sand. >> and then put it to like four feet. >> Yeah, it was unbelievable. Couldn't even. see him. I don't think his little. [ __ ] head was couldn't even see him. out there. Ball comes out. It was He was. unbelievable. He was unbel and I I. thought about it while. >> he does all these meetings I assume out. there. >> Oh yeah. >> And he just because he doesn't really. talk [ __ ] He doesn't really talk [ __ ]. about how he is at golf. He's just kind. of goes about his stuff. That's nice. >> Just keeps it moving. >> These are the good ones. >> Yeah. Exactly. And then all of a sudden. you look at like what are you? You're. one I'm one under through six. Like.

actually dude this guy isn't even like. no mulligans. Just [ __ ] here we go. He. >> stress free. >> Yeah. Casual on the phone. >> Yep. >> He's doing Ari Gold [ __ ]. >> Places like that. that they sell dogs at. the turn. >> It was so good. >> Yeah, we did get some dogs. Did you see. Foxy's dog? >> I ate it the exact same way. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> I don't know why there's some big anti-. ketchup. >> narrative going on from Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, the home of Hines. >> Sure. >> The most delightful.

and delicious. >> thing. >> 57 flavors. >> on earth. >> Ingredients. >> Put it on everything. I heard somebody. say. >> 57. >> 57 different somethings. >> condiments. >> natural things condiments is ketchup. >> Um I heard somebody say I love ketchup. I put it on everything. Eggs, uh put it. on chicken, put it on sandwiches, yada. yada yada. And then the person said, "I. would never put it on my hot tub though, ever.". >> And I'm like, "What the [ __ ] are you. talking about? Why would you not?

>> Why do they do that?" Yeah. What is it? I don't understand why that's such a big. deal. Why is that such a big deal? foodies. People that are foodies claim. like, "Oh, ketchup. Oh, you're so basic. You're a loser." Like, that's what it. is. >> How many How many saw on your tweet? >> I think it was like half a million. I I. grew up as the strictly ketchup like you. guys did. But then once I tried the. ketchup and mustard, >> I assume that's why because it is better. with both. >> Well, you could do one. Yeah, but do. ketchup. >> But I did see the the outrage strictly. about the ketchup, which was just.

>> So Connor just put Foxy into the fire. >> Yeah. puts ketchup only on hot dog. thoughts and then a beautiful photo of. our photo of our H&M model right there. Just did you know what was happening. with this picture? >> I had no clue what he was knew. >> I actually just took this for us cuz we. were having a conversation and then as. soon as I looked at the photo. >> I was like I got the world's got to see. >> I'm not lying. I just legit turned. around and then he's like hold the hot. dog up. >> Conor immediately knew his head goes. it's going platinum. That's what that is.

what he thinks. So, I'd say the number. one takeaway that everyone was saying is. that it's like what 5-year-olds do. And. like I grew up my entire life. I had no. I thought the most American thing you. could do is put ketchup on a hot dog. This was I learned all of this from this. tweet. There were so many people calling. me a 5-year-old. >> It's got to be Chicago people, right? Just hating against Pittsburgh. Is that. why you guys want your own thing? Like. we got the hot dog and then people from. Pittsburgh are like we make it much. better and Chicago's like no. I think. the propaganda goes more is we just put.

mustard and relish. We have a Chicago. dog. We don't really call out people for. having ketchup. >> I think it was a lot of Chicago people. probably if I had to guess calling out. >> for the most part. >> But that being said, shout out to. Chicago people. I got no problem with. Chicago people. But I do think like. >> just having an argument that something. that makes everything better isn't good. on a hot dog just doesn't make any sense. to me. Agreed. >> I'm from Pittsburgh though. >> You're an [ __ ] You put ketchup on. your eggs though. That's. >> disgusting. See, I don't think. >> Absolutely. Let me do what you want. >> Ketchup is unbelievable. Ketchup doesn't.

belong. >> Are you serious? >> That's so That is terrible, >> dude. You order six scrambled eggs with. the cheese inside the scrambled. Now, American if available, but some places. you go to, they're not going to have. American cheese, which I don't love. Yes. So, cheddar is automatically the. alternative. And you say, "Is cheddar. okay?" You go, "Do you have American? It's America." And they say, "No, we. only have cheddar." You go, "That'll do, I guess." And then they put the cheddar. in there. Okay. Then that thing comes. out and you just go ahead and. you put a big blob of ketchup right.

there on the side of it. >> Yeah. And you dip. >> You dip. >> It's gross. >> No, that's good. >> I'm a believer ketchup doesn't belong on. breakfast food. >> Boom. >> What about like homestyle potatoes? >> Hash browns. >> Okay. >> You don't do ketchup on hash browns? >> And I love ketchup. >> You're telling me McDonald's hash brown. comes in in that little bag? >> That thing is so good by itself, it. doesn't eat anything else. >> It is. That's true. >> Agreed. You can't eat it raw if you'd. like. I'm sure I would love it with. ketchup, but I've just always had a rule. like it doesn't belong at the breakfast. table. >> Oh, see I like to wake my day up with. hots. I will put that. >> I get that. I resp I respect.

>> hot sauce, too. You do hot sauce on. eggs? >> Oh, yeah. No, >> for sure. >> I do not. >> Hot sauce on eggs with ketchup. Ket. sauce on everything that's available, including the dino nugs that my daughter. loves. >> If you got some good eggs, they don't. need anything. It's like a good steak. Like, you don't put. >> Well, you know, A1 sauce. ketchup on the steak. Yeah, Kirk Herbry. will certainly certainly he'll Excuse. me. Do you got the uh the. >> Well, he has to though because he orders. his steaks medium well if I remember.

correctly. >> Yeah, cuz him and the dogs are the same. >> Eats it with applesauce. No. Yeah, it is. well done. Excuse me. >> Well, well. >> Yeah. >> Hi. Me, Peter, Theo, Mitch, we need. steak. >> Well, I'll take. >> Can we get some A12? And also, don't. tell the chef. A little ketchup. I'll order fries if I have to. You'll go. fries, ketchup, >> of course. Yeah. >> Oh, okay. >> Of course. On the side. I'm the same. way. >> What about nugs? What about nugs? Do you. dip in nugs and ketchup? I hope.

>> Kat sauce. Kach sauce. >> Franks. >> You put a circle of hines. >> Okay. Circle of Hines. >> Good ketchup. >> Franks in the middle of that. Dump it. >> Fill up the volcano. Okay. Then we. >> Hines on top of it. Then you go ahead. and take a little uh fork, spoon, whatever. Starting to We whip that. thing. >> Now you got kachhat sauce. >> Welcome to heaven, brother. Now you got. those dino nugs going.

right down in there and all of a sudden. it is great. That is I I sent an email. to Hines. I think I was in high school. You'd have to ask my dad what year it. was. He found the email for me. Told him. I got an idea. I got an idea. You guys. are good. Not great. We can make you. great. Mhm. >> kachhat sauce sent it and then like 2. years 3 years later they had a [ __ ]. full line of we got green ketchup, we. got purple ketchup, we got hot sauce. ketchup, we got all this. It's like of. course they thought of it way ahead of. me. I wasn't the first person to ever. think of that. But what I'm saying is I.

felt like [ __ ] Bobby Foy whenever I. uh started that and it still holds up. Still holds up. >> Still okay. >> You should try it. >> I'll try it. Sure. >> Mayo and ketchup or something. >> Oh, fancy sauce. Oh my god. >> Disgusting. What? As soon as you say, >> "Yeah, that's gross.". >> Oh, he doesn't like. >> Give it to Kaboli. >> Shut up, Mark. >> I'm not I'm not the target audience. I. get that. So, I'm not jumping in. But. yeah. >> Yeah. You don't eat anything, so I don't. need to hear from you. >> No, I do. I just I like plain stuff. I. like ketchup on hot dogs for sure. Hot.

dog. Ketchup only. Uh nugs. I'm. definitely dipping them in ketchup, but. eggs now. Eggs straight up. >> Okay. Um Well, that's kind of I mean, that's tough to argue with. >> Do you use hot sauce for anything? Uh, I do more now the older I get, I. would say. I'm into hot sauce. What? Yeah. Do you do plain? No, you do plain. wings, don't you? >> No, I'll get I mean, I'll get, you know, No, I get hot sauce. >> Dry rub. You do dry rub. You say give me. a little bit of that local dry. >> I'll eat them if they're if they're. there. Those are good. But no, I want. them, you know, hot, medium to hot. >> Well, we had some a little lemon pepper. fresh out of wings stop on a flight.

>> That was very good. >> Keep the driver up, too, right? >> Uh, I think that one plain. >> Those are so good. >> They were very good, actually. I'm a. Franks guy over all the other hot. sauces. >> Same. >> Tabasco a little bit too watery. I guess. every place has their own hot sauce. Give me the Franks. Give me the Franks. till I die. >> Nick always steals the tulas or whatever. they're called. >> Not anymore. But. >> who is it? >> Cholula. >> Cholula. That was started in like a. guy's basement, I think, if I do recall. >> The Mexican one. >> All the great ones are. >> He's good at it. >> Yeah, it was great. >> Basement, I guess, for brewing that.

stuff. >> That had a good run, I think. Cholula. had a really good run. That was during. Fireball Whiskey Run, too. >> Yeah, probably. Yeah. Yeah. >> If I think if I'm recalling at the same. time, >> I think I met. >> Mr. Chulu. >> and Fireball. >> Mr. Fireball. >> Mr. Ball. >> They were together. >> I think so. >> If my memory serves me. >> Might be the same person. >> I think so. Was it Cholula Whiskey? >> I'm not 100% sure. Anyways, ketchup. deserves and belongs on a goddamn hot. dog. >> Thank you. >> You like relish, Pat? You like relish on.

a hot dog? >> I'll do it. Was that. >> I'm not a relish guy at all. I think. you're either you're the relish or. you're not. No, I'm not into relish. I. hate relish. >> Yeah, but I would do it if said you got. to remember I went to P Community Days. >> Mhm. >> Okay. Where I a guy who was an artist. This guy was an artist. I helped him set. up his [ __ ] rig every single year. No. questions asked. He was great. Tip tip. flips. He goes, >> "What about a hamburger though?" He put. ketchup on a hamburger, right? Or. cheeseburger. I hope I hope you put. ketchup on a cheeseburger. >> Mustard. >> Yeah. >> You said he puts ketchup on everything.

What do you mean? >> Do you even have burgers anymore? You. just have little thin steaks with cheese. on top of it. That's what you have. You. You don't even have a burger anymore. You. >> Oh, no. I love I love a cheeseburger by. putting ketchup on it. No question. >> Are you putting it in a wrap? Are you. putting a lettuce wrap? What are you. doing? >> I'll either eat it on a bun or I'll get. like four hamburgers and just put. ketchup all over all of them. Eat them. with a fork. >> Oh, like a meatloaf. >> Yeah, >> that is like meatloaf. I'm not touching. meatloaf. That's disgusting. >> Well, ketchup on meatloaf, by the way, that's a whole another That's actually. one of the main ingredients of meatloaf. You said you're not touching meatloaf.

>> Meatloaf, I will not touch. And don't. worry, I'm sure you're going to tell me, "Oh, my mom or my aunt is the best. ever." Well, congrats. I don't want. >> my My mom My mom didn't start cooking. till recently. >> Cheeseburger in shape of a loaf. >> It's literally what it is. Like ketchup. >> No, it's a bunch of weird nasty stuff in. there. It's just the nasty. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Never been a meatloaf guy ever. >> If it's cooked right, it's good. >> It's got to be cooked right. >> I've only had it once. >> I'm with you. Well said. >> Everyone takes so much pride in their. own meatloaf. No, you got to try my.

meatloaf. Well, I don't. people. If. >> it's cooked right, it's good. >> It's cooked right. Turds cooked right. don't taste good. >> Meatloaf is not a turd, Bob. >> Similar as well. >> It's all your favorite things. >> I watch. How about this, AJ? Go ahead, please. >> Ground beef, egg, onion, milk, and. seasonings like salt. You got milk in. there. >> Okay, I'm out now. I didn't know was in. there. Call me out on meatloaf. I had no. idea. >> Smother and gravy. >> I just smother it in ketchup every time. I love tastes so good. Ketchup. thought.

of milk and meat. I don't want to do it. Sloppy Joe. Sloppy. >> Joe. Sloppy jollopp. You know, I watched a guy order uh a. bucket of mashed potatoes for dinner at. a uh like a fivestar steakhouse the. other night. Friday night. >> Just Nope. Just. >> bucket of potatoes. That's it. Nothing. else. Potatoes. Serving spoon as his. utensil. That's real. This is a really. nice It was uh It's one of the greatest. things I've ever seen in my entire life. Thought the waiter forgot something.

Held up eating. Then I watch person take. serving spoon and [ __ ] dive right. into that thing and start mixing it up. >> Is that your meal? >> I'd have a beer with that guy. >> This is my meal. >> Is there any chives on there or. anything? >> Uh had sour cream. Ask somebody else to. take it off if you wanted. Sure. Had. somebody else take it off. Great move. Great move. You want some sour cream? >> How much sour cream? >> It was so much big. It was like one. scoop pretty much. It was a bucket. So. you got to have it in proportions. So it.

was a [ __ ] scoop of sour cream on top. of that. He wants Yeah, why don't you. take some? Hand it over. Take off the. sour cream. Bring it back. Serving spoon. in the mouth. This is your meal. Don't. you worry about my food, Pat? Well, I am. a little bit. Is it Is this Is the whole. table eating from this or just you? This. is my meal. Stop talking about my food. You know that man was John Hallebertton. That was Tyrese That was Tyrese. Hallebertton's dad. He is the most. electrifying human I have ever. encountered. I've never got a chance to.

hang out with him. I got to hang out. with him at the WNBA uh contest night. Hour 15-minute show. Did not expect. that. So, we still had some time. We go. get dinner across the street at Prime. Shout out to Prime setting us up in this. like back room area. More so shut up uh. set up Tyrese for sure, especially for. him to roll in there. But that's kind of. his place. And I sat right next to John. Hallebertton and I laughed for two hours. straight. I mean, I I Yeah, he can. definitely Here's here's me and him. We. He is the man. I cannot.

>> They need to apologize to this man now. >> They need Instead of kicking him out, you know, they have me on the microphone. some of these games. The NBA should have. him on a microphone full time whole. game. He should be miked up for every. single. >> This guy's [ __ ] unbelievable. He. That's his Can we zoom in on that photo? >> That's just a tub of mashed potatoes. Nothing else. That's his meal. Big old. spoon. Yeah, you can see that's a. serving spoon. >> Serving spoon. Yeah. So, I asked the. waiter. I go, just can you clarify. something? Why did you put a serving.

spoon? He goes, don't talk. Don't stop. asking this man, this guy, John, as I'm. doing this. Why'd you give him a serving. spoon? Why'd you do that? And he goes, well, I thought obviously it was for the. whole table. Of course you did. Everybody thought that. Even the guy. that was bringing food, he said, don't. you worry about what I'm I'm not worried. about what you're eating. I'm like, I'm. eating chicken parmesan. This is. standard me. He is This guy is the. greatest. I am so thankful I got to sit. next to him. >> Weapon, dude. >> Weapon. Got a chance to chat more about. the entire situation that happened. >> Of course, >> obviously wasn't thrilled about how it.

all went. Didn't like, you know, doesn't. love that. That's the attention towards. Tyrese, but he does have a side, you. know, definitely has his side of things. on uh on everything. I love him. They. need him. They need John next year to. maybe dress for the baseball. >> That's not a bad idea. >> Maybe. >> at least at least warm up like Romo did. that one game. do that. >> Hit a couple of these. >> Yeah. >> Doesn't swear, doesn't drink, doesn't. smoke, never has none of it. Has the. confidence of a uh I don't know.

25year-old prize fighter. >> Okay. >> Yeah. He ran he ran up on Yiannis. >> He did not he if he if he was to explain. just standing there. >> the story. He didn't even know. I didn't. he was just in his zone, you know. He. was in his zone. Yiannis happened to be. there. Then there was a whole situation. You know everybody I'm. he's the man. Tyrese will be in here. tomorrow. Hopefully John will stop. >> Pump for please. >> Mr. Hallebertton if you're coming by we. will have a [ __ ] bathtub of mashed.

potatoes. >> Leave that man alone. Pat John told me. about a couple things. >> Yeah. And he's right. He is right. >> I said John. I'mma murder this guy. This. guy deserves to get murdered. Leave that. man alone. Pat. Thank you, John. I. needed to hear that actually. Well said. >> That is very, very good. >> I am proud of me. >> Obviously, I tweeted it publicly. >> because I I just wanted it to be out. there like, hey, there was another war. that was.

averted. >> Yeah. >> Is that a word? >> Yeah. >> So, I just want to let people know, hey, this is growth. >> I don't know if it would have been a war. >> evolving. Yeah. There would have been. people on his I mean it's just you're. just I'm dropping into a. >> It's kind of more of like a public. execution though windshield. >> The boys did see everything I was going. to say to about who I was going to say. and it was some of my finer work. Not my. greatest. I have some emails that are. better but these these you know I just. pretty was pretty good. It was pretty.

good. Thank. >> you. I felt pretty good about it. Yeah. I took I had time. I had time. Baby girl. was sleeping. I was home alone. Wife was. out of town just kind of hanging there. It was from. some time ago and I look at I didn't. know this happened. Sending in the. group. What's this? What's this? What? What is this all about? Get some intel. Is that right? Let me go ahead and see. if this is who I [ __ ] think it is. Yep. That guy's messaged me a lot asking. for a lot.

It can't be that guy. Let me go back. Same guy. >> Sure is. >> Interesting. Let me learn about this guy. He doesn't. think I have time. 45 minutes deep dive. into this guy's life. This guy has no. idea how much I know about him. Can't. wait to run into him. And it's like, yeah, all right. You said your piece. now. I believe I should probably stick. up for myself. >> Yeah. >> Had an ex version. Had an Instagram. stories version. Had an Instagram post.

version. Okay. Really put some time into. this. >> Threads. >> I don't do the threads. >> It's automatic. 600 million post. Yeah. I was going to say everybody is. >> Yeah. People were saying thread I saw a. post saying Threads has more active. users than X. >> Yeah. Two billion. >> Wow. >> Boom. Trillion actually. >> Excuse me. >> That doesn't feel real, >> does it? I saw Dana hold a microphone. that said Threads. That might have been. a part of his deal with Zuck. >> So maybe Threads is becoming didn't have. a Threads. Was going to make a Tik Tok. Was going to record a video have talk.

kind of piece it together. >> And I didn't. I said, "You know what? Today's not the day. Send them all to. drafts.". >> Boom. Boom. Boom. Boom. Boom. home. I. put my phone down, said, "People are. allowed to feel the way they feel." Then. I walked a little bit further. I said, "I'm allowed to feel how I [ __ ] want. to.". No, no, no, no, no. It's a good summer. We're having a blast. >> Boom. >> Shout out to the MLB. >> Blast. >> Shout out. >> Shout out to the ASP. >> Shout out. >> That was a good time. >> Yeah. >> Did we have more fun than anybody else. at the ASP? >> Certainly. >> Yes. Great. Great time. But uh in.

Atlanta MLB like my favorite part and I. forgot about this was. >> Tai you know not not forgetting about. the kids like you know heading to the. field you know. that point back coming back signing. autographs for you know who knows how. long I mean good on you man first. allstar congratulations. >> well you know we're just trying to grow. it for the next generation you know what. I mean who am I to be you know I was. obviously trying to take everything in. myself my first all-star experience but. I thought how special you know for one. of these kids, you know, who's been.

waiting all day. >> That video is so far back in my library. I'm trying to scroll back and find it. right now. >> Those kids. >> so much since then. >> That was me. And I said, you know what? I ain't going to I ain't going to leave. these kids standing here. >> I'm walking behind Tai as he's about to. make his way onto the field for the. first time dressed in his full regalia. >> And I just wanted to get him jogging on. the field cuz I knew he was probably. going to skip up over top of the the. chalk and everything. And instead what I. caught was just absolute magic. >> True moment in time.

>> True MLB magic. I just texted it to you. ZTO so you can pull this up. >> Kids will never forget it. >> ever. You know they talk about a lot of. people say like I remember Mickey Manel. stopped and said hello Ken Griffy Jr. and inspired me to become a professional. athlete and treat people the right way. Well, Ty, you're kind of you're kind of. becoming that guy maybe for an entire. legion of baseball fans with how you. acted as an MLB all-star. And I know. that there was some some blowback by the. baseball purist for us. >> Sure. >> I think this video right here will kind.

of put it all at ease. We're trying to. get back to the game. >> How about you, kid? >> Come on. Get over here. >> Come here. I'll start your ball, I. guess. Mr. Schmidt. Mr. Schmidt. >> Mr. Schmidt. >> Go Yankees. >> Mr. Schmidt. That's all they kept. saying. >> Mr. Schmidt. >> A lot of that. I I saw one of those. things hit eBay. >> $8,000 for a signed T. >> So, I tell you what, a couple of those. when I was signing them. I saw some of. the other signatures on there. I was. like, a god damn show. I really [ __ ]. shouldn't. But hey, guess what? I'm.

going play the part. They think I'm an. allstar. I'mma do it. >> Hey, now. >> Yeah. Allar sign the baseball. Go play. Which we did, didn't we? >> We did. >> Then they saw us out on the field. Those. kids. What? >> Yeah. What are these guys doing? >> No. They wouldn't have asked if they. didn't want it. >> Yeah. >> They didn't know who he was. We were. coming out right from the clubhouse. >> Yeah. >> I mean, it was a setup for those kids. They had no hope. >> No, without a doubt. >> You had the hat on the whole thing. They. might have thought maybe you were a. manager. >> A clubhouse. Was the music still playing. in there? >> Did the AO win or lose? >> Uh,

>> they lost. They lost the swing. >> Oh, yeah. Cuz we talked we need the. swing on. >> Yeah. >> Mhm. >> Okay. I re my take. >> If it goes more than one extra inning. >> Okay. >> Swing on. >> Then swing. I like that. >> Have a 10th inning. >> of baseball. >> Gives the Pierce what they want. >> Then let's go to the off. And I think we. only do two. I don't think we do three. guys. I think it's two guys. >> One of them hits three times. One of. them hits two times. Best of five. >> Well, not one guy. I I I I like one. swing.

>> I think that was undead. >> because both cuz both guys you would say. >> could hit or both most likely miss. So. then it's like, okay, we know. Yeah. We. know we're making it to the. >> same guy like Olympics with PJ Yoshi. >> Bingo. Yeah, like it's swing for swing. >> or do you go you have to go to a next. batter. You have to line up who the. batter is. Like soccer. >> No, just one regular season. Just one. batter. >> Regular season hockey is how. >> one one swing, three guys. >> One swing per guy. >> That's what you think. >> Three guys. >> I think one guy, one swing. Let's.

[ __ ] see. >> Yeah, but then it's over before it even. >> and you run into the potential of it. being so antilimatic if you do that. >> Yeah, it could be over so quick. >> But I mean, >> we want to best of three, best of five. Yeah. >> Don't you think? >> I I suppose personally I think no matter. what if they make the change they'll do. like just exactly what the NHL does. which is once it gets to the playoffs. the most meaningful stuff they'll get. rid of it and they'll just do extras no. matter what. >> Oh yeah that's definitely not doing that. in the playoffs. >> World Series. >> Yeah. >> Game seven.

>> Swing on. >> show versus judge. >> That'd be sick. But that is never going. to happen. >> Well, that'd be the Astros the first. time ever. >> Yeah, you're right. >> Dong off champ. >> Mhm. I wouldn't want that in the. playoffs. >> In the playoffs of the season for sure. >> I think the one would be. >> in the playoffs. >> I mean, they don't care about the. climactic. >> It would be so sick though to watch best. of three. We would all watch. >> Oh, yeah. >> Oh, yeah. For sure. >> I think we would all watch. >> Thanks for coming into the group say, "Hey, so and so's in a swing off right. now.". >> Yeah. Dong off happening.

>> We all see the highlight. >> for sure. >> We would watch. We would talk about the. clip the next day. >> for a thousand%. The clip would be. massive. Just as somebody that's new to. baseball, becoming a fan of baseball. >> Mhm. >> You guys are already making changes in. the rules anyways. >> I'm getting all the Socks games. I want. to get into it. >> Like 13 innings. Do is that good? Is. that fun? >> No. >> No. I mean, that's that that is like. that's why they put guys on second base. now to start extras cuz they don't want. a gimmick. >> Yeah. They don't want game.

>> You guys are already doing gimmicks. You're already You guys put the [ __ ]. person on second base, Ghostrunner on. second, which sucks. Okay. >> It does. It's Yeah. So, you're already. doing gimmicks. If we're going to do. gimmicks, let's do a fun gimmick. >> Here's a better one. >> Boom. Banging a pile. Have one inning, extra inning. Do your thing. Do the. baseball. >> Good luck. >> Hope you hope somebody wins. >> Go score. >> But then best of three, one swing per. each, I think, is the right play. >> I like it. >> Maybe two. And it's. >> dumps. Two hours a night. >> I'm just saying though, as like purist, I think if you said two innings, they.

they'd take the bait on two. If you go. one, if you go one, I think they they'd. still be pissed off. >> Okay, four outs, one inning. >> I like that. >> Not bad. I don't mind. >> I like category. >> That's good. That's a win. >> Okay. Four out. You guys already doing. the ghost man on second. >> Purus can't be pissed about four outs in. one. >> No way. We gave him more than it is. >> That's cool. >> That is cool. >> Uh, how about pitcher has to throw. alternate hand. >> Yeah. Other. >> or pitcher is not allowed to throw any.

breaking balls. >> Yeah. Got to be fast balls right down. the middle. >> Fast ball. Does the other person have to. throw? No. >> No more strike zone. You know what? Forget the pitcher. Put it on a T. >> Let him swing away. >> Would guys hit dongs off TE's? >> Yes. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. That's a fair question. The speed. coming in. I also was I thought he was. going to say no. >> Dude, if you put a [ __ ] ball on a tea. at home plate, Judge would hit it 9,000. ft. >> Judge. But but most he wears a size 15.

[ __ ] shoe. Most guys would. >> Okay. >> Most guys would be able to take it out. >> Yeah. >> Very far. >> I would assume so. >> Yes. Hitting a ball off a te these guys. do so much tea work. So much tea work. >> So that's a dumb question. >> Yeah. I mean certainly. >> for a non baseball person not a dumb. question. >> I assume I assume they needed. >> need the speed, need the velocity. Yeah. >> Dang. And then the BP they're still. throwing. They're not Do adults hit off. tea? >> They do in practice all the time. in the.

majors. Yeah. >> Do they? >> Oh, yeah. >> I didn't know. Big deal. >> I've never seen it. We need to start. doing that for next year. >> We need to start getting on the goddamn. team. >> We need to bring it. >> We need to start throwing some [ __ ]. Yeah. See if they can do it. >> See if they can do it. >> All right, boys. >> Who can do it right before the home run. derby starts? >> Boys, take a second to see if you can. hit a dong off of this goddamn T. >> The T derby. >> Yeah, we're trying to find out. Those. dudes were sweet over there. >> Yeah. >> Yankees have a game tonight. >> Yes. >> What's up, Yankees? one.

>> in Toronto. >> Good to see you dudes. >> Well, who knows with because they're in. Toronto, so they might be watching on. SportsNet today and not. >> No, they watch on YouTube. >> Probably right, >> I believe. So, you can catch the naughty. language. >> Uh, show plays on TSN in Canada. >> Oh, does it? >> The Sports Network. Yeah. >> I didn't know that. >> I believe ESPN owns them. >> They do not. >> Who owns the. >> Rogers? Hold on. >> I have a question. Still to this day.

right now, >> I'm pretty sure a lot of people watch on. TSN back home. >> Can't wait to meet you people at TSN. >> Well, no wonder the Canada stuff got so. loud after. >> they know I exist up there. >> Golly, >> shoved down their throats the next day. >> Oh, great. We got to listen to the. [ __ ] [ __ ]. >> Hey buddy, the [ __ ] American [ __ ]. on TV again. Jesus Christ. You think. there was a chance old retired Trudeau. was watching our show the next day? I. got to say something. >> No, he's watching other stuff. Well, now he's retired.

>> Speaking of uh retired Washington. football team name was retired. Will the. commanders be just another Oh, you. remember when. >> your president AJ uh may sting about the. Washington whatevers. How do you feel? >> How do you feel about that? >> I mean, this is I don't know. Have we. ever seen a president before like dip. his toe into the NFL waters on what a. team should be named? >> Yes. And the reason why we know that is. because there is a pre-presidential. Donald Trump tweet saying shouldn't do. that. President shouldn't be doing that. because uh uh President Obama at the.

time was I believe talking about the. name of the Washington football team. So. I yeah there has been a little bit of. dancing I guess and this is a wild thing. especially if the stadium stuff gets. held up you know and obviously the art. of the deal. President Trump is a. dealmaker. That's kind of his entire. thing. Everybody say, "Well, he he got a. rich dad." It's like, okay, a lot of. people have rich dads. >> You're fired. >> A lot of people have rich dads. He's. been able to make deals, I think, throughout his entire life. It's kind of. his thing. Um, now, do all of them.

uh withstand or or whatever it is. I. don't know. I guess the I think not. I. think there's some deals that happen, then don't happen, and then I think that. causes a lot of problems. I think some. people get real happy, some people get. real mad. And then they just kind of go. like this and then that's politics. >> Yeah, >> I think. >> that's how it works. >> But I think he can probably withhold. fun. I I I don't know. I don't know all. the ins and outs of being a president. >> He won't.

>> All right. Debb says he won't. >> Politics Jews just yapping. >> Plus Pat. >> I think I think the president. >> that's on Truth Social Truth. >> Are you going there? >> I do not have an account over there. That's where you sent me the link from. >> They're probably battling with threads. not to assume. >> well 600 million active users on threads. you know Facebook's become interesting. because I'll post on uh Instagram or. we'll post on Instagram and it posts on. my Facebook that I don't have a login. for over there and then my mom would. tell me she saw me on Facebook and I'm. like what what did you see mom she's.

like your post is on Facebook and I'm. like holy [ __ ] it is over there. >> threads too. >> really. only post only postre go to threads. >> only posts go to threads reals go to. Facebook Yeah. >> What? >> Yeah. My mom saw some something we. posted on Instagram on Facebook and I'm. like, "Mom, I think somebody's ripping. my [ __ ] You know, you should continue. to tell me about that." She goes, "Is. this your account? >> I haven't been in there in years.". >> Oh my god. >> Holy [ __ ] Zuck figured out my password.

and connected us. How's that whole thing. go? So then you got to go into what. email I had. That goes back to my West. Virginia email. I think it's like. >> things been deactivated for 15 years. >> Oh my god. What alternate email could it. have been? >> It's crazy. >> And then at the time, what was my. favorite drink? >> Pass. >> What was I uh at the time? That might. have been a Roman Coke. >> Incredible Hulk. >> I'll tell you what, that one really put. some people to bet. Hypnotic and. Hennessy, right?

>> Oh, yeah. >> I'll take the Incredible Hulk. Are you. sure? Always followed up there. Yeah. Well, make that thing green thing. The. the color of the uh hypnotic. How do. they do that? Interesting color. >> Bright turquoise. Damn, it's really bright. Like really. bright. Looks so cool. Some. >> sort of ooze. >> What is that up there? >> Probably is some sort of ooze. >> What is that nectar up there that is. glowing up there? Well, we can actually. put this together with Hennessy and. really [ __ ] up your whole night. >> Done. Do it.

>> Give me that one. >> What was the other one? The four shots. >> The four horsemen. >> Four horsemen. >> Yeah, that was terrible. Jack, Jose, >> that's when Jim and. >> that's when you knew you walked into. enemy territory. >> Tony Walker, >> you know, you walked in there, somebody. say, "Hey, Pat, good to see you. Let me. buy you some stuff." Send you down. there. It's like, "Oh, this place hates. me. Got it. You guys trying to make me. >> I went to a place that had a wheel. You. just spun it." And that was one of the. options. And if it happened, it just. happened. >> Yeah. But there were some other good. options on there. >> There was a couple good ones. There was. a couple real bad ones. >> Those days were crazy. Young this. generation has no idea what it used to.

be like. >> You're right. >> The cameras on the phones, I think, change everything. Everybody's kind of a. little bit more docile. Used to be. [ __ ] wild world out there. >> They do other ridiculous. >> Still is a wild world. Let's not get. twisted. You can get punched in the. face, shot, all that stuff. I'm not. saying you can't, but I'm just talking. about like. >> going out. That just changed. immediately. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. But they do other [ __ ] like the. galaxy gas, all that [ __ ] Like they. have a whole. >> What's that? Nitrous. >> Yeah. I I don't even know what it is. today. >> It's like computer duster or some [ __ ]. isn't it? It's insane. Like. >> it's their form of nitrous. >> I think so. >> Yeah, we had that, too.

>> Yeah, we had. >> It's fine. >> That's like a 30 second thing you should. not be killing brain cells with. Yeah, you guys had it, but you didn't have a. phone that added like the oh, do the. most ever and we'll get it on camera and. post it. It'll be cool. >> Means anything. I was trying every time. to break every record. >> I don't know. You seen Steo clinking. around on the. >> What's that? >> You ever see the video Steo clinking. around? >> That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm. saying, though. Like, like with the Steo. era, you're going and you're buying a. specific camera video recorder. Now, it's more so like, hey, everyone's got. one, so if you think you can do.

something absurd, let's film it and see. if. >> you can make a business out of it. >> Yeah. And you can get a good business. out of you can become a millionaire. >> later. >> I don't know if I would have survived. >> Yeah. And you can die. >> Yeah. That's that's the part I think. what got me. >> cuz those Incredible Hulks. >> I mean, can you chug four of these? >> Yeah. >> Can you chug four of these in a minute. or whatever? It's like, oh, we're going. to try. We're going to try this entire. thing. >> Good nights. >> Yeah. And terrible mornings. >> Mhm. >> Yeah. >> There's like Strong Islands. We used to. get pictures of Strong Island.

>> Oh, yeah. Love. >> There's There's a lot that goes into. those. You feel really good the next day. after you chug those. >> Yeah. And why do they taste so good? They're always like This one's got 10. shots in it. It's. >> supposed to straw. >> I think it's cuz we were extra. ingredient. >> I don't know. >> I didn't notice. >> Just more booze. Long Island. Just more. booze. Super heavy. >> They got like eight, nine shots in this. Oh, yeah. Allegedly. >> of different alcohols. >> Yeah, it's mixing everything. The. whiskey. >> When's the last time you heard someone. order a long Yeah. Give me a long ice? >> I had one uh two weeks ago. They do not. taste the same. I feel like that was.

just a young. >> Is it top shelf? Mhm. >> We're at the age now you need a top. shelf. >> I don't I don't know. It was just on the. menu. >> Do they Do they have top shelf Long. Islands? >> Never been. >> Yeah, I got Spanka in them. >> The only places Yeah. I was about to say. the only places I've ever been They're. making these Long Islands are. >> Yeah. >> Hit it with the guns. >> Yeah. >> What else we got back there? >> Yeah. [ __ ] Well, uh, no. Put that back. Yep. Here you go. You want taste? It's. [ __ ] in the middle of that. >> Here you go. Thank you. That'll be 10. bucks. The [ __ ] I pay for.

>> everything. >> Pulled all this [ __ ] out. What do you. think it is? >> You're going to love it. >> There's Mario shot wheel down there in. Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. >> Referring to. >> You can get a black and gold shot. You. can get kic. bomb will get you going. White gummy. bear. Hey, how you doing? Three wise. men. Good night. And puke. >> That's the one I always. >> There's a Jagger. There's an O bomb. Love the O bombs. The O bombs get you. going. Tequila, green tea, pineapple, uh, royal flush. Lemon head. Is that what that is?

>> Yep. >> That one tastes like [ __ ]. >> Mhm. >> Oh, >> yep. >> Very sweet. >> An O bomb. >> Just Oh, yeah. Obama. >> Just tequila. >> O bomb is just tequila. >> No, there's the uh 2:00. >> You just hoping for a green tea. >> That's easy way. >> Well, it depends on who you are. >> Back in the day, we were definitely. hoping for Vegas bombs. >> If you're spitting this, you're not. hoping for a green tea. >> or a good time. >> What's that? >> Or or a good time. You were looking to. end up under a dumpster if you're if.

you're ending up at this slot wheel. Yeah. Okay. We did it every weekend. >> Yeah. First stop. Yeah. >> Get a free shot on this thing if the uh. >> Yeah, that's awesome. Daisy a crazy. world back in the day. Good times. >> The eye is taped on. Yeah. >> Yeah. It's been around. that wheel. Me, Tone, Nick. We We've had our hands. on that wheel. Let's talk about the. throwback uniforms for the Pittsburgh. Steelers. My immediate thought upon. seeing them was I didn't like them. Then.

I think about like what throwback. uniforms are and I immediately go that's. not bad. All they're trying to do is. move some more uh jerseys and pay. tribute to the past which I respect. Uh. this one interesting form of the. bumblebee uh just kind of inverted the. entire thing. I would certainly like. stripes up and down as opposed to flat. I think that is good. the pants color. Don't love it. You make that black, I. think you got a cooler looking thing. But hey, I guess that wasn't what it was. back in the day. Do Do they feel.

obligated to make it not look as good as. it could look? Does that make sense? >> I I I feel like they feel obligated to. make it historically accurate. Uh so. that the steel workers of that time, um. if they were to magically come back. today, they like, "Oh, those are those. Steelers Steelers are back.". >> And so they look, you can see they're. historically accurate. Um, I mean I I. like them better than the Bumblebees. Would they black pants been a lot. better? Yeah. But I mean it's just just. not what it's just not what they were. >> Yeah. I I understand then in 1933 they.

didn't have the black pants on, but we. could say the steel ash. >> Yeah. >> Char. The new style helmets really distort. what the throwbacks look like. I think. >> like the new. >> get the old school helmets that weigh. 400 lb and put them in put them in those. guys for one game. >> If we're going to do it historically. accurately, we should do the same. helmets. Same helmets callers. >> I just saw the clip of um.

>> we just posted it on Instagram. It was. from Radio Row. >> Somebody was talking about the new. helmet and uh JJ Walt was like, "I. finally put it on my last year. It's so. nice, so comfortable." I didn't want to. take it off. It's not heavy. And AJ was. sitting there. Well, you look you look. stupid though. It was like It was like. clearly JJ was like attacking you in the. entire thing. It's like helmets have. transformed a lot. I mean, from what. they used to look like to what they are.

now, but I guess inside they feel good. I guess it's like a fuz cuz remember, and I I didn't grow up in a football. world, so forgive me, man. My ears. putting that [ __ ] thing on, especially. >> my ears are bruised. your ears. My ears. get bruised all the time. >> Ears are always. >> and forget if it was cold. Could get. cauliflower [ __ ] ear from putting on. a goddamn helmet. And then let alone I. have a big head. I have a large head. >> So they're like, well, we'll give you a. bigger helmet. And it's like. >> I don't I still going to have to [ __ ]. bend that thing out cuz it's you're kind. of it has to be tight, right? You know.

what you're saying? So you bend that. down. Then the side of your head is just. getting compressed. Let alone if this. thing stays down. >> Yeah. If you got your ear just like. stays down, it's it's a whole thing. Putting the helmet. I'm happy they made. it better. >> Get pumped up. Take a little air. >> Fill the pads. >> I miss it. >> I want a few pumps right now. >> There's a helmet behind you. >> Oh, too much. Too much. Take a little. bit out. >> There's a couple helmets behind you. right now. If you want to run into the. wall. >> No, those too new. Too fancy. Too. comfort. >> No, no, no. They want it. They How about. that one? Steelers. That's Steelers.

helmet. >> Yeah, go do it. >> You can put on Maverick helmet, too, if. you want. Too. >> nice. That is old school. >> That is beautiful. >> Game worn. So, if they're going to do. the gimmick helmets, why don't they do. gimmick pants? >> I I'm with you. >> Are you going to buy that jersey? >> Uh, no. >> Which player would you buy the jersey of. this year? >> TJ Watt. >> Okay. >> I don't have a team jersey. He's now. >> You're real excited. TJ Walt was a. Pittsburgh Steeler. >> He's now a one helmet guy. I I do this a. lot. I do this all the time. Um, where, you know, I put out both sides. I put.

out some mixed feelings. Then once it. finally happens, you get your true your. true soul, your true heart, your true. north. >> Who else do you think you did that for? quarterback as well. >> Yep. For sure. For sure. >> For the last three years. >> How about DK Mechaf? Did you do that for. DK? How about Johnny Smith? Did you do. that for John? >> No, >> you didn't. >> Because I didn't know it was an option. when the news of the original news came. out that it was potentially trading for. him. I I said that's [ __ ] That's. not going to happen. >> And then Khan gets a job. >> Yeah. And then it happened. It was. crazy. Uh. >> legend. >> Like I never thought DK was an option.

ever. So I never even had. >> Are you guys winning a Super Bowl this. year? >> I I would be highly surprised if we did. Debbut, Pittsburgh Steelers go to an AFC. Championship this year? >> Oh no, that's [ __ ]. >> I mean, you know, >> AJ, Pittsburgh Steelers go to an AFC. Championship this year. >> I've been thinking about this lately, like if their O line holds up, I think. they definitely have a chance. >> That's the question. >> They definitely have a chance. If. >> that was the same, >> that's everybody's that's everybody's. team. But I'm telling you, the viewers,

>> look around, man. They they got some. studs. Jaylen Ramsay's on the squad now. Like, they got a team. I completely. forgot about Jaylen Ramsey over there, bro. Those those are. >> You think Ravens, Bills? >> Yeah, >> Chiefs. >> I mean, [ __ ] Chiefs. I'm going start. Chiefs. Ravens, Bills. >> Pengles are way too high. >> What? >> I agree. >> That's ridiculous. >> They're talking about Trey Hendrickson a. little bit. Thinks he's going to get the. deal done. Mike Brown came out and. talked about it. >> Yeah, I think he said that two months. ago, too. >> Well, his family though came out and. said, "Some of these players need to be.

pretty happy with what they got.". >> Yeah. surprised the Texans are that low. >> Shamar Stewart needs to sign. >> I understand. >> He's not. >> Yeah. >> Because they're not changing the. contract. >> That's what it feels like. Cincinnati. Bengals are not going to change. He has. taken a stand on this uh clause about. guarantees and voided years and. everything like that. He said that we. learned that it wasn't in the Bengals. deal last year, but it is in 16. different teams, organizations deals. We. would have assumed the Cincinnati. Bengals would have been doing something. to save themselves money if other teams.

were doing it already. >> Certainly. >> Right. Don't we think that we would have. I think we all kind of assumed that was. the case. >> So I I'm kind of torn on this, but I'm. definitely at the case where I hope. Shamar gets money. I hope he gets all of. his money and I hope he gets back to. work with the boys cuz he could be a. differencemaker in the NFL with how. talented he is. >> Yeah, but he needs I mean we all need. reps coming in. Uh but he he he needs. something bad. So them not getting this. or Trey Hendrickson done is crazy. But. speaking of contracts, guarantees, and. all that, a lot of these second round. picks finally getting signed, fully.

guaranteed deals, which is great for. them. >> Before we get to that Mike Brown's quote. about Shamar Stewart, if we get a player. who does something unacceptable, guess. what? I don't want to pay him. >> I really don't. He's sitting in jail, I. don't think I have to pay him. Uh, obviously injuries, jail, I guess, is. certainly things that you could void. contracts for. Hopefully, they get the. deal done. Mike Brown ever transparent. Now, back to what you were talking about. about the second round deals finally. getting done. kind of an abnormal year. for the CBA and for these players in the. second round. >> Yeah, people still showing up. Most. rookies have already had to uh show up.

for camp. So, all these guys getting. paid. We we had uh Carson, I think he. was the first one to get paid with being. the first pick in the second round. But. I I mean, I love this. You know, they. took somewhat of a stand. It didn't take. too long. We're right in training camp. and once you these top once these. dominoes start to fall, you assume uh. the rest of the guys will fall in line. Obviously, we know Judkins is dealing. with some issues off the field, which. will probably hold his up, but most of. these guys are either fully guaranteed. or north of 90% guaranteed, which is. awesome. >> Yeah. So, the originally, last time we. talked about this, Singinger and Higgins.

were the only ones that were paid. And. they were were paid fully guaranteed. money. And the holdup was right there. with uh number 35 Nicki Murray from. Seattle. I think he was the next one. And he he said, "Oh, the two guys in. front of me, they were fully guaranteed. Why aren't I fully guaranteed?" So now. at this point, picks 33 through 40 are. all fully guaranteed. Obviously, you. talked about Judkins. Uh he is not done. yet. So they were all uh fully. guaranteed. 33-40. And then the next one, TJ Sanders, uh. out of Buffalo, he was like 95% fully.

guaranteed. And as you go down the list, I mean, most of these are are north of. 80% fully guaranteed. Um so that was. kind of the hold up. Once like once the. once you got to Shuck who was the. quarterback and they said he has. leverage because he is a quarterback to. get the fully guaranteed. >> He might be our starter. >> Yes. And what but once that that first. domino fall fell at 41 then it was like. okay this is kind of how it's going to. fall in as far as percentage of fully. guaranteed. >> I do appreciate the fact that Bean was. like we'll give you guarantees. Not. full. I mean.

>> yes. >> 10.07 out of 10. Well we we'll give Come. on. Come on. I love that. >> Play ball. Let's play. >> We're doing it. There's a lot of. guarantee. $10 million and you kind of. go down throughout the rest of it. Mason. Taylor, obviously from the Taylor. family, absolute beast over there with. the New York Jets, 9.6 million of 10.4. fully guaranteed. I like the angle. I. like what the boys tried to do. I think. it all worked out and now we're at camp. >> It was funny because, you know, soon as. like soon as that uh it was like a few. days ago, that first second rounder that. hadn't been signed got signed and then. literally they like 20 20 of them signed.

within two days. >> Yep. Shout to second rounders, AJ. You. wouldn't know anything about that, would. you? Well, he wouldn't. >> Are they doing anything outside top. five? Who cares? >> You think football ever gets to fully. guaranteed deals like basketball and. baseball? >> Is Scott Boris coming over or No, >> I don't think it happens. But yeah, I. mean that's probably part of the reason. why football is great though. It's. because. >> salary. >> every single day and you know as well. like I know we've talked about it like. you need to have a healthy fear of your. job. Like you really do.

>> Agreed. I think uh. I think yeah product can potentially dip. if people get too comfortable and don't. try to work for everything in the future. if you have to earn it. Now granted I am. a very much a pro player guarantee get. all the money you could possibly get. But if we're talking strictly from the. product standpoint when people are. chasing bags that's when they're playing. their absolute best ball. The NFL knows. that. But I think taking care of the. players is a very valid, especially the. guys, you know, like the guys at your. league are. That's why when I went to. that first Pro Bowl was out there in.

Arizona, all the guys that make money. for the NFL were there. Okay. Like Tom. Brady opted out. I think Aaron opted. out, but basically JJ's there. Luke. Eekley's there. Drew Brees is there. Patrick I think Patrick wasn't at that. time. No. But like basically everybody. else that makes money for the NFL was. there. And they didn't even like rent. out the entire hotel. And I was like, what the [ __ ] are we doing, man? like. the you got to at least take care of. these people, the people that take care. of and and move the needle for your. entire league. So, I think like older. players getting fully guaranteed deals. if they've already proven who they are,

I think is something we need and I think. will be something that happens. But boy, that Deshun Watson deal [ __ ] up a lot. >> That's what [ __ ] it up. >> A lot I think. You know, >> like if that works out for them up. there, think about if Cleveland wins. >> Yeah. Yeah. Then. >> then it's like everybody is going to be. able to pull the trigger. But the fact. that it's gone the way that it's gone, as terribly as it's gone, both on the. field and off the field, it's like. that's a lot of reasoning for the NFL to. say, "No, we're not going to do it." But. I hope we get to a point where like vets. are getting fully guaranteed deal. There.

has to be like a year like, "Hey, if you. get to this point, you can opt into this. or something like that." I I don't know. how it all. >> Yeah, I don't I don't I mean, I'm not. concerned with you there. I'm pro player. getting paid. I don't I'm not concerned. with the product dipping. We we have. seen a lot of guys get paid and then. that next year they don't play as well. because obviously you do have that. motivation when you are in a contract. year but once you start getting to that. big big money those are usually you know. like guys who've been playing for six. seven eight like this would be the Josh. Allens the Lamar Jackson like Jaylen.

Herz like these guys aren't just going. to stop being pros once they're getting. these uh huge bags and then the other. guys who are you know say early 20s like. a Stingley or a Sauce who just got paid. they want to get paid again you know. because three four years down the line, new CBA, new salary, they're going to. want $50 million a year. So, um, you. know, we always want more money, especially at football. You want to. maximize your three, five, 10 years, however long you play in the league. So, I hope it happens with the violence and. the guarantee of injury in this sport. It's going to be tough.

>> It's very scary the injury thing. That's. why the franchise tag everybody gets so. pissed off about. It's like, I've earned. it. >> You think that I've earned it. That's. why you won't let me go to the market. >> and now you're holding me down for a. year and I only get one year worth of. guarantees when I could this all could. end. >> next year. This could all end one play. So there's that that balance of it all. I think it's a tough negotiation. >> We have anybody on the franchise segment. this year? >> Not this year. >> No, cuz Trey Smith got his deal done. >> Shout out to Jimmy Ston and Tory Dandy. >> That's right. >> Right. >> That's right.

>> Tory. Tory Dandy. >> Both Jimmy and Tori. AJ. >> They're a team, right? They do it. together. >> I guess I only talked to Jimmy and then. Jimmy told me what was going on. I guess. I should have also called Tory and ask. him what the [ __ ] going on too. >> One voice. >> One band. >> Yep. >> One sound. >> All right, let's get out of here. I. think we did it today. >> Yeah, I think so, too. >> Shot Sege Geek, by the way. >> Go see a show. We've been living a. little bit. >> Mhm. >> We got to see his show. Shane Gillis.

>> Yeah, we did. I saw somebody say nobody. was laughing in a theater. That's a lie. I was having a good time in there. >> Great time. We were laughing. >> I was like some of the things I was. like, but that's Shang Gillis football. >> Exactly. >> That is literally what Shangilis. football is. I did appreciate uh I. didn't want to say it. I said I don't. want to say it just right to the next. >> They wrote this. >> What an angle. There was certainly some. but this is going to happen. You know, obviously with the way the SBS has been. for a long time, you drop a Shane Gillis. in there who's going to like, hey, we.

are here to. >> I mean, you knew what you were getting. We are make we are. >> push the envelope a bit. >> We are going to go but who says it's an. envelope you know because who says what. the envelope is especially in comedy and. the line between humor and hate for a. lot of people just kind of blends. together. It's like hey these are jokes. trying to laugh. Well you didn't make me. laugh. All right well hopefully the next. joke will you know like that is the. thing I I I don't love whenever people. are like uh I guess it happens to me a. lot too when people are like I didn't. think that was funny. It's like well.

there's other people that find that. funny. It's like, well, it's not funny. It's like, well, who says you say that? Like, this is like food taste, man. Like, everybody has their own taste. Everybody views things a little bit. differently. A lot of people are less. serious than other people. We understand. you're trying to change the world, make. the world better every single second, but this is a comedian making sports. jokes and he the purpose is to laugh at. these things and point out potential. hypocrisies and problems or just uh a. thing that we've all seen. Like that is. what comedians jobs are since the. beginning of time to kind of regulate.

society. I think personally they have a. very important role in our entire world. Not all of them do that obviously. Some. of them are different forms of comedy. Once again, different styles. Some of. them represent different political. parties, you know, in their styles. And. uh yeah, as soon as we heard Shane was. the guy, it was like, "All right, we. would like Shane to succeed in this. entire thing." And also, we very much. understand how some of this is going to. go and what the next day is going to. look like. >> They also didn't help him out. When we. went last time, it was a full open bar.

and this year, so like you had people. getting like boozed up and like going in. there and like enjoying themselves and. having a good time. It was just it was. just beer and wine and like seltzer this. year. So I want I wonder if just like. the general, you know, like people. weren't as drunk in there. >> I don't know. People were laughing. though. Like I think I don't know if it. wasn't coming through the TV and I saw. some people say they weren't in there. and nobody was laughing. It's like. >> it didn't come through for years though. >> Number one, you did it. Yes, we had some. pops. We had some pops. Sounded quiet.

>> But people Yeah, but people online were. like, "No one's laughing during McAfee's. monologue, but that wasn't Yeah, there. was some people popping." And just like. for Shane, there was some. >> Oh, yeah. >> There was certainly some Oh, >> yeah. It was definitely even for me like. And obviously I was sitting right next. to you and that camera was, you know, so. it was some jokes. I'm like, >> "Yeah, I didn't love that.". >> That's a joke that offends a lot of. people. Where's [ __ ] McAfee? Put him. on. >> My daughter was like, "Oh, I saw I saw. you yucking it up. It was funny.". He, >> you know, so and and if you don't know,

if you're tuning into, you know, the. SPS, you you don't know cuz obviously. Shane Gillis is is wildly popular, but. there are a lot of people who don't. really know him, who aren't that. familiar with, you know, his brand of. comedy. They may, oh yeah, this SP I. mean, tune in. So maybe you're taken. back by some of it. And I, you know, the. demo, our our role was definitely. >> Yeah, we were laughing. He was getting. some pops. Yeah. some of them. Some Aro. though, we would like to say to the. people who are going to get mad about us. saying that we laughed at some of his. jokes, you people need to lighten up a.

little bit. Maybe try weed. Maybe try. weed. Just something to think about, you. know, just something think about. But. also, there were some things he said. where we were like, Jesus. >> You know, there was a couple that were. like, "Oh my, >> I pissed my pants off on everyone. I. don't know if I even had any of those.". But I I also assume that people at home. watching, you know, didn't think people. were laughing because I assumed maybe. the the audience mic was turned down. Maybe he was turned down during the. >> Oh, on purpose. You think. >> applause laugh times versus when he was. like, >> you think it was a work against.

>> again? Who knows? >> I wouldn't be surprised. >> I'll tell you what, I enjoyed that. speech. >> So did I. It would have been awesome if. they were selling uh or get liquor in. the lobby. But outside of that, >> that's weird. It was great. >> I I enjoyed the monologue. >> Dumpy missed the entire uh. I still be a story that'll be a story. for another day. >> I had faith in him the whole time. >> It was awesome. >> First time in my life that's ever. happened to me. >> Dumpy had a code red one block away from. the theater. >> Had to get out of the Sprinter van, go. to a random restaurant, dump his [ __ ]. >> Talk to a manager.

>> Had to get to a manager cuz the front. person was like, "You can't just dump it. in our bathroom, buddy. >> Can I talk to a manager, please, buddy?". >> Mr. Group P. >> We were sitting at that light for. [ __ ] 10 minutes, dude. I was [ __ ]. dying. Did you see me put him in the. photo? >> So, the one I posted on IG, I put Gumpy. in over my shoulder. Really? >> Right here. If you look. >> hanging from his. >> No, he's got his little uh ship painting. hat on, >> his helmet, the whole thing. I put him. right there cuz he was in the area. >> Yeah. >> He just couldn't get to where we There. was like six different levels of.

security. AJ, it was outrageous. >> Right after he got out, it was the most. complex. Take a left, go down this, take. a right, take a left, take a right, take. go through another security. I mean it. was. >> and at every turn got. >> at every turn AJ we were like Gumpy will. be able to get here. >> So where what did what did you do during. the show? Gump. >> had to go through the front door. >> Yeah. I just ran and it took a while to. get to where they were but I found it. somehow. >> Missed the group photos. Missed the. first three drinks, but got there in. time to go into the theater. It was. great to see him. But he didn't [ __ ] his.

pants, which I guess we were very close. to happening. >> I definitely would have. >> I forgot all about the beard wine. [ __ ]. >> Yeah, I was happy about that. No offense. to Mickey Mouse, but that. >> I wonder what who made why that was why. that why that happened. >> I don't know. It was a cool set. I mean, >> assume someone got blitzed last year. >> Was it the same place last year? >> Same. Yeah. A couple years back. >> That theater is supposed to be nice. >> Nice. >> All right. If you were to go to a show. and do a nice theater, you should use. our friends at SeatGeek. I thought the. theater was nice. You didn't think the.

theater was nice? >> No, I didn't. >> I went backstage. I thought the stage. was beautiful, >> you know, cuz we were setting up the. whole. >> It looks nice. Sure. Yeah, for the whole. thing. Had a microphone that came up out. of the stage. That was pretty high-tech. That was cool. >> Stage was very nice. >> The design of it all. >> Seats were Mickey. >> Oh, we got a bust of riders before. >> Oh my god. >> How'd break your neck not come. immediately afterwards whenever he said. uh now granted. >> Bust is still throwing his fast ball. >> This was literally the next day. We were. driving somewhere and I'm like, "Hold. what we just did right here. Holy [ __ ].

Buster rhymes last night. Hit it.". >> Yes. >> Everything. It's like how is he still. got it? And they said, "Uh, if you know. how we do or something like that." I'm. like, "We do know how you do." I thought. we were I thought we were about to. >> Yeah. >> I was about to on top of my chair stand. up and do that entire thing. Uh, but I. think he biggest reaction was Buster. Rhymes. >> Yes. >> The entire theater stood up. >> Yep. By far. >> Ty started a standing ovation. >> I did. I did. >> Ty started a standing ovation. I forget. which one it was.

>> Uh, it was either No, it wasn't Simone. Biles. might have been for Diana and. Alex. >> Yeah, cuz there was clapping happening, you know, a lot of clapping happening. and Tai was like, "Nope." That's. literally what he said. Stood up. >> Big claps in the middle of the theater. and then you see everybody. Yeah, it was Ty started it. Ty started. stand. It was pretty sick. And then they. gave a good They gave a good. >> speech the work deal. >> And then we learned Terasi is an.

absolute dog. Yeah, it's Diana. >> Big fan of the program, too. >> Yeah, we learned that. I don't know. That's She gave. >> She wouldn't lie to me. >> She gave Gumps a slap on the chest. >> Boss, she big dog gum. >> I wouldn't say big dog. I thought it was. out of respect. >> I guess she is a legendary [ __ ] talker. I I I guess. >> I guess. >> I saw an interview she did outside in. the red carpet when she was saying like. very humble saying, "Yeah, I can still. take all these girls." Like, >> yeah, she's a dog from what I from my.

understanding. Yeah, I guess she knows. the show, which is pretty sick. We would. love to get Diana the Ross here on the. show. Would love to hear. I watched that. documentary where she was playing. overseas, right? >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> She had to play over in Russia first 12. years of her career. >> Did you watch that doc on her? >> I did not. >> She was coming back WNBA season, then. going over there. Then she couldn't play. in some things because of the contracts. Speaking of, we're in the middle of it, I guess, with WNBA contracts right now. Yeah, I watched the whole doc. She's. beast. Absolute beast. >> Oh, yeah. I had no idea she I'd assume. just immediately. >> uh that she would have hated our [ __ ].

guts. That's how. >> Still do. >> Still a chance. >> Still assume. >> She still think she thinks, you know, and Shane probably did it on purpose, >> but she probably thinks that's how we we. feel as well. >> Yeah. Entire thing. >> We clapped for that four-time NBA or. WNBA allstar. What was her name? >> Wix. >> Britney Hicks. >> Britney Hicks. >> Hicks. Yeah. What a moment. >> What a creative little situation that. was. >> Yeah. I I don't know if people were. talking about that particular situation. I heard Sarah Spain's pissed and I Okay. >> Sarah Spain was pissed. Yeah. >> No way.

>> I I got a chance to meet Sarah Spain and. her husband. They were very nice to me. and Foxy. I mean, >> she is I don't know his name. Steve, I. don't know his name. I forget his name. They were very nice to us. But Sarah. obviously pissed off, but that's her, you know, she's like, "Hey, we don't. need to be taking anything down." So, I. think we expected Sarah Spain to not. love that entire thing. Um, him saying. Deanna Terasi. Uh, that had to be on purpose. >> Had to have done that on purpose. >> They went right to her too. Reaction her.

idea. >> And then the whole make some noise for. four time WNBA like you were talking. about like calling that a lowlevel. thing. I don't think she was talking. about that. I don't I don't think she. was because she couldn't be t that was a. super genius. >> Yeah. I mean. >> it worked. It worked. How do you argue. it worked perfectly? Well, any amount of. levels to that. Like. >> I assumed he she was talking about the. Caitlyn Clark Waffle House deal. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Cuz the whole make some noise for. four time. >> Mhm. >> That's just.

>> Yeah. Rockus applause. >> I was looking short. >> That's Well, then you see. >> Oh my god. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> She could dribble the [ __ ] out of that. >> Gets buckets obviously. >> I happened to meet her afterwards. I. told her, "Congrats on a fourtime. allstar." and then just kind of kept it. moving. >> Big laugh. McCusker losing his mind. >> Yeah, he's excited. >> All right. Shout out to SPS. >> Shout out. >> It was Corso I think was sweet.

>> Yeah. Great. >> Speech was phenomenal. >> Mhm. >> Speech was phenomenal. >> Adlib. >> cuz I was watching. He was. >> I think August 30th is going to be. awesome. >> Ohio State, Texas. is uh it's going to. be his last, you know, head gear, his. last pick and first college game day of. the year over there in Columbus. And uh. he looked good, man. Energy moved, talking. >> in the band. >> Yeah, USC band. I forgot about that. That was sweet.

>> That was sick. I had no idea what they. were going to do. I was just told, "Hey, USC band's coming out at the end. If you. could bring them up." You got it. I had. no idea. They're coming from the. floorancers. >> Holy [ __ ] We're doing a full I actually. I was standing in a place and a guy slid. in front of me for their performance. I. look at Dez. I go, "Holy fuck." And I. moved this way and Dez is literally cuz. I almost interrupted and tripped this. entire guy. So I'm like, "Where is a. safe place?". >> It wasn't. >> I don't know. We should have paid. attention a little bit more. So we just.

kind of stood still. >> Should have told you a little more. >> But it was awesome. Nah, I think it was. better that way. I think it was better. how it all went. >> Shouts to Kirk Herb Street. Desmond. Howard. >> Shut up. >> Kirk Herb Street's hilarious. Thanks for. the dinner, Herby. after the SPS piece. I was very kind to him and D. >> You got a quesadilla. >> How the [ __ ] How'd you know that? >> Delicious quesadilla. >> You should have heard Darren's brain is. still in LA. >> You should have heard Darren. >> How'd you know to order the quesadilla, Fox? >> So Darren is We appreciate Darren. We.

love Darren. Darren's around. We know. Darren a lot. We know D very well. He's. always trying to get things done, which. I respect and I appreciate. He set up. this entire thing, I would assume. Shout. out to D for doing that. We're at a. Mexican place, though, and Foxy orders a. quesadilla in Darren's head. Just. [ __ ] Was that off menu? >> How'd you get fries with the quesadilla? >> Full explosion. It was [ __ ] It was. great. It was one of the best Debbone. I. guess can't call him De-bone anymore. It. was one of the greatest. >> D Money.

>> D Money moments of all time. >> D White Pants. >> Hey, he looked good. Yeah, he was in. white pants. >> Great fit. >> Great tan. >> He looks good. Oh yeah, >> D Money is ready for football. >> Yeah. Mhm. >> He's swinging a hot bat right now cuz. that Mexican place was very good. >> So good. >> Very very good. Very very. >> You can get chicken in a quesadilla. since what? >> Holy [ __ ]. >> What? >> I would have ordered that. >> Thought it was just cheese this whole. time. >> How about this, D? They got tacos. right here. >> Wow. >> What the [ __ ] a taco, man?

>> They got it right here. >> That was great. Herby is [ __ ] hysteric. Kirk Herb. Street's one of the funniest people. existed. He's in his bag right now. >> He is. That's cuz he's been He's in his. I don't give a [ __ ] right now. >> Yeah, but I also think he's been kind of. Who's he been talking to? The dogs. >> He's cooped up. You can tell. >> Yeah. He's got a lot to say. A lot has. happened. >> And it was all funny. >> All of it. >> Yes. >> How do we feel? And then you knew he's a. lot like you. You toxic Ohio [ __ ] Hey, so drop something in there that you know.

a lot more than you want to lead on. about. Just want to kind of start the. conversation. Classic Curb Street. So, fill me in. Something. Oh, Jesus. >> Wow. >> Wow. Is that right? >> Even him on the show just like casually. putting in the background and acting. like he wasn't doing anything to be on. the show. >> I want to see if you guys would see me. back there. >> Yeah. >> He did make a 25. >> He did. >> Left. Only got to make a putt out there. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> You can tell he's ready to get back in. the ball, too. Cuz regardless of the.

conversation, you could be just shooting. [ __ ] 30 45 he. >> who you got in the FC this year. >> Who you like? Who you like? What. quarterback you like? >> Let's go around the ball club. >> Let's go around. >> That's his move. >> He wasn't here. Everybody's answer. Really? >> Wow. >> Wow. He's awesome. >> Five months. He'll do that. >> Hey, he looks good. >> He does deserve it. He earned it. >> He looks very good right now. Tanned. >> 30 years. Yeah. >> Fit. 22 years. He did uh four hours. local radio. >> Yep. These are the dog days, boys.

>> Yeah, we do. >> Yeah, we're in it. Not so much this. year, though, Herby. We've gotten lazy. >> Yeah, >> we've gotten lazy. It has been great. >> Can't wait for football season. >> It's here. It's here. >> On that note, we have an announcement. >> Yes, it is here. >> Yes, >> we have an announcement. Next Wednesday, we will be at the Pittsburgh Steelers. training camp. And next Thursday, we. will be at the Hall of Fame for the Hall.

of Fame game. >> Both. >> football is back in a huge way. We'll be. at a training camp next Wednesday live. with some of your Pittsburgh Steelers. favorites. >> And then we'll be at the Hall of Fame. game live with all of the legends of the. NFL. Shout out to the NFL Hall of Fame, Football Pro Football Hall of Fame. Shout out to the Pittsburgh Steelers. Bert making magic happen. Thank you for. the invite, Aaron. Thank you for um. obliging coach Tomlin and Omar Khan. And. shout out to the Hall of Fame for. allowing us to be set up over there.

Come hang with us. We're going to be uh. I don't know about St. Vincent setup. I. have no idea what that's going to be. like, but I know at the Hall of Fame. there's a massive parking lot you can. come hang and chill with. We're going to. be right at the steps. I don't know if. anybody's ever been set up on the steps. there. I think a lot of the legends of. the game are going to swing through and. then obviously we kick off NFL football. that night with the Lions helmet taking. on the Chargers helmet on a football. field in Ohio. >> Awesome. >> Hardball's going to be on the sideline. MCDC is going to be on the sideline. There's some quarterbacks that we know.

that are going to potentially have some. time and we know that football is. literally right around the corner. because this game is happening. We can't. wait to celebrate in Pittsburgh, more. specifically LRO and we can't wait to. celebrate in Canton next week. Come see. us. Ain't that right, AJ? >> That's awesome, man. What What a great. two days. And so when does camp open for. for the Steelers? Will they be in full. pads this time? >> So they start Wednesday uh in two days. They start. >> Yeah, they'll be full. >> They'll be a week in. They will be full. pads in. They're one of the last two. teams to start their training camp. 26.

teams will start tomorrow. Uh four have. already started and then two uh start on. Wednesday. >> Yes, correct. I can't remember. I think. it's the Cardinals who also start. Wednesday, >> but they've already been doing workouts. I I seen Kyler Murray traveling with. Marvel. >> Use that Morgan Wallen too. >> Yeah. I said, "What happened in night. one?" Morgan Wallen something. >> What do you mean? >> He had Randy Johnson. >> I saw that. >> Awesome. >> Morgan as baseball player growing up. Had to be. >> That had to be so cool for him. I was I. hope Randy knows that that I assume that.

was very very cool for Morgan and his. entire team, his his great group of. dudes around him. And then he had Joe. Dur walk out with him saying, "But I. think the reports were saying the night. one's crowd was a little bit. >> rowdy.". >> Really? >> Yeah. Fights, bottles maybe being. thrown, >> things like that. I guess it was a. little bit outrageous. >> Up. They were letting the liquor talk. Unfortunately, >> last night they let the liquor talk. >> I bet that show is phenomenal. >> Yeah. >> He just released an album with 37 songs.

on it. >> Hey, Morgan loves golf. Oh, >> loves golf. Loves loves loves golf very. much so. Good golfer. Hits ball fart. Golf needs to know that Morgan Wallen is. a big golf fan because I think he like. respects game, loves game, treats game, goes out of his way to play game, trains. game, then obviously fitness, everything. he's doing for these stadium shows. He's. a. >> he's a beast. He's a [ __ ] beast. 37.

songs on an album. >> A lot of songs, >> brother. That could be like four [ __ ]. albums. >> $850,000 copies, I think. >> No big deal. More. $850,000 more than. second. >> There it is. Yeah. >> Yeah. I think you had what uh 25 of the. top 50 or something like that songs. >> Now he's just walking out there. Thank. you very much. >> Mhm. >> For coming out tonight. Bang. 100 some. thousand tickets sold. Jesus Christ. Think about all that. Congrats, dude. >> Hell yeah, Morgan. >> I guess they're pretty wild out there in. Arizona.

It's not his fault. >> No. >> I mean, I'm trying to think of what song. could have been there in there. He says, "Throw a [ __ ] bottle at the stage." I. I don't know. >> Is that a adlib something? >> Yeah, maybe. Right in the middle of. that. >> Just go ahead and let that thing go. >> Go crazy. >> All right. This one goes in. This one. goes in. We'll use uh CQ code Pat 30. Nope. Code Pat, just PAT. >> Okay. M.

>> to get $30 off Morgan Wallet tickets. >> All right. Done. >> All right. Full price, I guess. >> Y. >> that stinks cuz. >> Where's he at next? Can you look it up. where where he. >> I see where he was. >> T-Bone. >> Yeah. >> T-Bone. Where's he at next? >> I think he has a tattooed on his back. >> He's in Arizona last week. >> He's got the entire. tour. You should see in Seattle. Where's. he at after Seattle? Uh Glenn Allen,

Virginia, >> and. >> and Santa Clara, California. Cleveland, Ohio. Boxboro, Massachusetts. >> Hell yeah. >> Which one should we give tickets away to. if this goes in? >> None of them. >> What? >> Cleveland. >> Cleveland, Ohio. >> Cleveland, Ohio. Feels Jerry Judy. >> They do some good in their lives. Definitely. >> We're going to give four Morgan Wallen. tickets away because Jerry Judy's our. favorite [ __ ] player in the NFL. >> Hell yeah, Jerry. >> If this goes in. >> Yep.

Well, it can't be fooled. >> Never was meant to be. All right, let's. get out of here. Be your friend. Tell a. friend something nice that might change. your life. We're in this thing together. Shout to you, AJ. We'll see you. tomorrow, boys. Great work. Be your. friend. Tell a friend something nice. Team on me. Team on three. We'll see you. tomorrow. 1 2 3. Goodbye.